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:00:08. > :00:21.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:00:22. > :00:23.of sexually abusing boys in 1988, but did not go to police.

:00:24. > :00:26.Professional player Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity

:00:27. > :00:30.to tell us he went to the club to tell them about the abuse he was

:00:31. > :00:34.That full exclusive interview at 0915.

:00:35. > :00:40.Also on the programme: After worldwide backlash

:00:41. > :00:43.against new restrictions on travel to the United States,

:00:44. > :00:52.bans against seven countries aren't directed against Muslims.

:00:53. > :01:00.They say it is based on a policy first introduced by President Obama.

:01:01. > :01:03.If you are a Christian in Syria, it was impossible, very tough to get

:01:04. > :01:06.into the United States. If you were a Muslim you could come in, and I

:01:07. > :01:10.thought it was very, very unfair. And as MPs launch an investigation

:01:11. > :01:13.into how damaging fake news is, the editor-in-chief of one fake news

:01:14. > :01:15.website tells us politicians should focus their attention

:01:16. > :01:26.on newspapers instead. Welcome to the programme,

:01:27. > :01:30.we're live until 11. Latest breaking news

:01:31. > :01:33.and developing stories to come - a little later in the programme

:01:34. > :01:36.we'll hear how one school is advertising for a "school

:01:37. > :01:39.detention director" who will be a "sergeant major in

:01:40. > :01:43.the detention room". It's thought to be the first time

:01:44. > :01:46.such a role has been advertised. Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:47. > :01:52.we're talking about this morning. If you text, you will be charged

:01:53. > :02:00.at the standard network rate. Our top story today: Six people have

:02:01. > :02:03.been shot dead and eight others wounded at a Mosque in the Canadian

:02:04. > :02:05.city of Quebec. The Canadian Prime Minister

:02:06. > :02:09.Justin Trudeau described the incident as "a terrorist

:02:10. > :02:11.attack against Muslims". Sarah Corker's report

:02:12. > :02:15.contains flashing images. Police closed off the area

:02:16. > :02:18.surrounding the Quebec City Islamic Cultural Centre as armed officers

:02:19. > :02:24.entered the mosque. It was during evening prayers

:02:25. > :02:26.on Sunday that witnesses say gunmen opened fire

:02:27. > :02:28.on 40 worshippers inside. Ambulances continued to take away

:02:29. > :02:37.the dead and injured. Quebec provincial police confirmed

:02:38. > :02:47.two suspects have been arrested. We consider the event like an act

:02:48. > :02:50.of terrorism and we can persons pronounced dead and eight

:02:51. > :02:57.persons is in hospital with minor The Canadian Prime Minister Justin

:02:58. > :03:30.Trudeau said in a statement: The city rejects this barbaric

:03:31. > :03:36.violence and express solidarity with Victors' families.

:03:37. > :03:39.said: The motive for this attack is unknown but incidents

:03:40. > :03:46.of Islamophobia in Quebec have increased in recent years.

:03:47. > :03:56.Joining us now from Quebec is local reporter Peter Tardif.

:03:57. > :03:59.It's the middle of the night there now and he's in

:04:00. > :04:06.You have just come back from the scene. What's the latest? All we

:04:07. > :04:09.know is what has been reported, six people dead, eight wounded, 39 other

:04:10. > :04:21.people who were inside safe and sound, but I split -- at this point,

:04:22. > :04:27.it is just coming to terms with the shock and reality.

:04:28. > :04:32.Tell us a little bit about Quebec and the diversity of the population.

:04:33. > :04:39.Quebec city is the second biggest city in this province, and so a very

:04:40. > :04:43.peaceful city. The murder rate here is extremely low, less than one

:04:44. > :04:48.person per year, so this is shocking news to people. Often we hear about

:04:49. > :04:54.these types of things south of the border or in other places. Quebec

:04:55. > :05:00.has had some shootings in the past, but this type of incident is

:05:01. > :05:04.something completely new to people. Very peaceful, very quiet, and those

:05:05. > :05:08.are words that keep coming up with regards to this incident, simply

:05:09. > :05:13.disbelief that this could happen here of all places. Are there any

:05:14. > :05:18.early thoughts about why Muslims might be targeted in Quebec? There

:05:19. > :05:24.is really no inkling as to what happened here, what transpired here,

:05:25. > :05:31.why did this happen. Politicians, the mayor, the Premier, the Minister

:05:32. > :05:37.for public security, not confirming any details, police also not

:05:38. > :05:41.confirming details, saying this is not a time for politics, it is a

:05:42. > :05:49.time to mourn. But we know that at this particular mosque this past

:05:50. > :05:52.summer there was a pig's head deposited near it during Ramadan, so

:05:53. > :05:59.people mentioning this again today as a possible hate crime,

:06:00. > :06:03.Islamophobia at that time present, and now this event, trying to link

:06:04. > :06:08.those two, that is something people are talking about. Thank you very

:06:09. > :06:12.much, Peter. Let's bring you the rest of this morning's news. Joanne

:06:13. > :06:16.is on the BBC newsroom. Good morning.

:06:17. > :06:18.Protests have intensified across America against President Trump's

:06:19. > :06:20.travel ban on people from seven mainly-Muslim countries.

:06:21. > :06:22.The President insists the ban is not about religion,

:06:23. > :06:26.Politicians here are concerned about the impact it might

:06:27. > :06:30.Here's our Washington Correspondent David Willis.

:06:31. > :06:35.MAN CHANTS: No ban, no wall - New York for all.

:06:36. > :06:37.In a country built by immigrants, many find Donald Trump's

:06:38. > :06:44.They took to the streets in cities across the nation,

:06:45. > :06:46.as the crackdown sparked chaotic scenes at some airports

:06:47. > :06:48.and promptied criticism from senior members

:06:49. > :06:55.Neal Behgooy and his wife underwent several hours

:06:56. > :07:00.of questioning after touching down in Texas from Iran.

:07:01. > :07:02.Over the weekend about 300 people were either prevented

:07:03. > :07:09.They asked her about her family, about her brothers and

:07:10. > :07:20.President Trump issued his controversial order without input

:07:21. > :07:24.from or giving notice to the government departments that

:07:25. > :07:27.will need to implement it, hence the concern of officials

:07:28. > :07:29.here and elsewhere in trying to interpret it in the face

:07:30. > :07:31.of a flurry of lawsuits and the concerns of

:07:32. > :07:41.The Foreign Office says the ban only applies to people travelling

:07:42. > :07:46.to the US from one of the seven countries on the list.

:07:47. > :07:48.Travellers from the UK won't be affected and neither will UK

:07:49. > :07:55.citizens travelling from any of those seven countries to America,

:07:56. > :07:58.unless, that is, they're joint citizens of one of the seven

:07:59. > :08:02.nations, in which case they're likely to face additional checks.

:08:03. > :08:04.For all the confusion, Mr Trump's aides have deemed

:08:05. > :08:07.the travel ban a success and they issued a statement seeking

:08:08. > :08:16.to dispel suggestions that it amounted to a ban on Muslims:

:08:17. > :08:20.Despite the backlash, Donald Trump knows that

:08:21. > :08:23.many of those who voted for him did so specifically because of his

:08:24. > :08:25.promise to combat the threat of so-called radical

:08:26. > :08:30.To them, this just represents another promise kept.

:08:31. > :08:42.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:08:43. > :08:45.of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

:08:46. > :08:48.20 years later, that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

:08:49. > :08:51.offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

:08:52. > :08:59.Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

:09:00. > :09:02.numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

:09:03. > :09:03.playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

:09:04. > :09:10.We'll have more on this in the next few minutes.

:09:11. > :09:12.A group of MPs is to carry out a parliamentary inquiry

:09:13. > :09:16.The Commons, Media and Sport committee will investigate

:09:17. > :09:18.inaccurate or false news stories being shared on social media.

:09:19. > :09:20.Members of the Committee say they've noted concerns over people

:09:21. > :09:26.being fed false information from nontraditional news sources.

:09:27. > :09:29.A free school in London is advertising for a "school

:09:30. > :09:33.The advert says they need someone who will be a "sergeant major

:09:34. > :09:38.The advert goes on to say the role isn't suited to someone who wants

:09:39. > :09:41.to be every child's best friend, but for someone who believes

:09:42. > :09:48.children need clear, firm discipline.

:09:49. > :09:54.The Department for Education says it is a matter for the school to

:09:55. > :09:59.comment on. In the next few minutes, we will be

:10:00. > :10:07.talking to Tony Brian, he is with us this morning, he has waived his

:10:08. > :10:10.right to anonymity to speak out publicly for the first time about

:10:11. > :10:17.the abuse he said he was subjected to by a scout at a youth team when

:10:18. > :10:21.he was aged 12. As a teenager, he reported the Scarratt. The scout was

:10:22. > :10:26.then working at Aston Villa. Aston Villa decided to sack this garret,

:10:27. > :10:28.but they didn't go to the police. We will talk to him in the next few

:10:29. > :10:33.minutes. Do get in touch with us

:10:34. > :10:35.throughout the morning. Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:10:36. > :10:38.and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

:10:39. > :10:42.with Tim Hague now. Tim, plenty of big shocks in the FA

:10:43. > :10:44.Cup over the weekend, but not everybody is happy

:10:45. > :10:51.with the big teams This comes up every year!

:10:52. > :10:56.You are right, Victoria. People not very happy at all. You would think

:10:57. > :11:03.we would be talking about the likes of Sutton, Lincoln Wolverhampton

:11:04. > :11:05.Wanderers, all bringing brilliant result in knocking out Premier

:11:06. > :11:12.League and championship side, but the teams rested 51 players from

:11:13. > :11:15.their previous games, an incredible amount, and imagine, as a fan, you

:11:16. > :11:19.travel hundreds of miles to watch your team play, and you are left

:11:20. > :11:25.embarrassed by the result, but most of your team are not even regulars.

:11:26. > :11:30.Leeds made ten changes, and non-league Sutton outplayed them

:11:31. > :11:35.yesterday. It was the same for Brighton, nine there. The biggest

:11:36. > :11:40.shock of the weekend was at Anfield on Saturday lunchtime. Walls just

:11:41. > :11:45.too good for Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool. He made nine changes,

:11:46. > :11:49.while Oxford beat Newcastle side also with nine rested players. I

:11:50. > :11:54.think it is fair to say that former England captain Alan Shearer is not

:11:55. > :11:59.happy about it at all. I think they are cheating the fans. Newcastle

:12:00. > :12:02.fans travelled 250 master Oxford expecting their team to win, and he

:12:03. > :12:06.puts out a weakened team. Newcastle have one of the biggest and best

:12:07. > :12:08.teams in the championship, six points clear with a game in hand of

:12:09. > :12:13.third place, so it is very disappointing.

:12:14. > :12:16.Not everyone is disappointed. Despite 13 Premier League clubs in

:12:17. > :12:21.the fourth round making 98 changes to their line-ups, it makes for a

:12:22. > :12:27.more other's competition, some think. Every team is making changes,

:12:28. > :12:31.not just the Premier League teams. I think it is making the FA Cup

:12:32. > :12:35.better, once you get the fifth sixth round, a lot of clubs are playing at

:12:36. > :12:39.home to limit changes, but I think it has been fantastic for the cup

:12:40. > :12:44.that we have seen so many upsets. I am all for playing the kids. You can

:12:45. > :12:47.see Phil Neville's point of view, but many feel that the FA Cup is

:12:48. > :12:55.devalued with a rested players. It is the fifth round draw on the One

:12:56. > :12:58.Show later this evening, nobody can make changes to that!

:12:59. > :13:02.Thank you. Good morning, welcome to the programme.

:13:03. > :13:05.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:13:06. > :13:07.of sexually abusing boys in 1988, but did not go to police.

:13:08. > :13:10.20 years later that scout, Ted Langford, was jailed for sexual

:13:11. > :13:12.offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

:13:13. > :13:23.Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

:13:24. > :13:26.numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

:13:27. > :13:29.playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

:13:30. > :13:31.He's waived his right to anonymity to speak

:13:32. > :13:38.Tony Brien, who then went on to play for Leicester, Chesterfield,

:13:39. > :13:41.West Brom and Hull City, says that whilst at Leicester -

:13:42. > :13:43.at the age of 18 - he reported Langford -

:13:44. > :13:46.who was then working as a scout at Aston Villa -

:13:47. > :13:51.They sacked him - but we've learnt they did not

:13:52. > :13:57.Mr Brien decided to speak publicly after seeing our interview

:13:58. > :13:59.with Andy Woodward and three other former players.

:14:00. > :14:02.They now campaign for better safeguarding in sport and hundreds

:14:03. > :14:04.of other alleged victims have now come forward after our initial

:14:05. > :14:13.We can speak to them both now - as you'd expect with

:14:14. > :14:16.an interview of this nature - we will hear some graphic details

:14:17. > :14:21.of sexual abuse which you may not want young children to hear.

:14:22. > :14:25.Good morning, both of you. Thank you very much for coming on the

:14:26. > :14:29.programme. Tony, thank you for talking

:14:30. > :14:31.to us this morning. You decided to speak out

:14:32. > :14:38.after seeing our interview I tried to speak out 30 years ago,

:14:39. > :14:41.and I was listened to, and when I saw Andy Woodward go on the

:14:42. > :14:46.television and speak out about it, it inspired me to come out and say

:14:47. > :14:50.what happened to me, because I waited long enough, and I felt as

:14:51. > :14:58.though the time was right, because when Andy first sat on the sofa, he

:14:59. > :15:01.was alone. He urged victims to come forward and everything like that, so

:15:02. > :15:09.I just couldn't ignore it any more, and I decided to come forward. I

:15:10. > :15:14.telephoned the NSPCC helpline, and the rest is where I am today. Can I

:15:15. > :15:24.ask you about the abuse that Ted Lankford subjected you to. He was

:15:25. > :15:30.like somebody we always looked up to, somebody like that. He used to

:15:31. > :15:34.turn up at my school and speak to me at games on Sunday and said he

:15:35. > :15:38.needed something from me. And I used to asking, what is it you need from

:15:39. > :15:42.me? I'm not telling you yet, but I need something from you. If you want

:15:43. > :15:48.to be a footballer, I need something from you. This went on for quite a

:15:49. > :15:55.number of months, and in the end, he turned around to me and said he

:15:56. > :16:02.needed a sperm sample of mine. I was in shock, to say the least. I asked

:16:03. > :16:07.him, could I not do this at home or anything like that, and he said, no,

:16:08. > :16:12.it needs to be fresh. He said the reason why he needed it was so that

:16:13. > :16:17.Leicester City doctors could examine it to see if I had a gene inside of

:16:18. > :16:25.me that would make me become a footballer. A foot all's Jean?

:16:26. > :16:37.And being so young at that time, you believed anything that people said

:16:38. > :16:43.to you. He mass debated me, and himself as well, and it happened on

:16:44. > :16:46.several occasions where he just kept saying that the sample wasn't

:16:47. > :16:52.correct, I need you to do it again, and again. Until one day I said to

:16:53. > :16:56.him, this stops now. Otherwise I will chop your Venus of. What age

:16:57. > :17:08.where you when you said that to him. 14. Where would this abuse take

:17:09. > :17:14.place? He used to take me to a golf course, at the back of the old

:17:15. > :17:18.school that I used to go, a school in Handsworth and there was a golf

:17:19. > :17:23.course at the back there and he used to drive up there. That's where it

:17:24. > :17:33.took place. How did it make you feel? At the

:17:34. > :17:43.time, you would have done anything because I thought it was right, but

:17:44. > :17:50.you know, of all the years, now, I just feel dirty and I can't explain.

:17:51. > :17:54.It's just, you would have done anything in them days, your dream

:17:55. > :17:59.was to become a professional footballer. You know you believed

:18:00. > :18:02.things that people said to you. And I would have done anything to become

:18:03. > :18:07.a professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

:18:08. > :18:13.was, you know, actually wrong because I trusted adults. And when

:18:14. > :18:19.at 14 you told him where to go, what had changed? Did you know that this,

:18:20. > :18:24.what he was doing to you was wrong? Yeah, it's just, I knew something

:18:25. > :18:29.wasn't right. I knew from, you know, we used to go on trips abroad and

:18:30. > :18:34.kids were coming out with love bites all over their neck and things like

:18:35. > :18:38.that and it was just, it was just, it was just terrible to see it. Why

:18:39. > :18:44.did he say he had to keep on doing it? He said that my sperm hadn't

:18:45. > :18:49.come back from the doctor's with the right results. It wasn't, a test

:18:50. > :18:57.that had been completed properly. It was inconclusive? Yes. So he would

:18:58. > :19:03.say we have to do the test again, but we'll leave it for a few weeks.

:19:04. > :19:13.We would have to do the test again. Unbelievable. Yes. This happened six

:19:14. > :19:19.or seven times over that period of two years or so. How did he treat

:19:20. > :19:23.you after it stopped? After you stopped him. After I stopped him, I

:19:24. > :19:28.used to always be sat in the front of the van when we used to go to

:19:29. > :19:33.matches and I think his way of dealing with it, he would put me to

:19:34. > :19:39.the back of the van. And you told your mum, didn't you? When I was 18,

:19:40. > :19:47.yes, I revealed it, yes, I did. How did she react? Obviously, she was in

:19:48. > :19:53.shock. No mother likes to see her child hurt. She only knew about it

:19:54. > :19:58.when I had actually reported it. In terms of reporting it, in 1988 you

:19:59. > :20:04.were 18, you were playing at Leicester, Ted Langford was then

:20:05. > :20:08.working at Villa with an assistant manager called Dave Richardson, he

:20:09. > :20:14.was assistant manager to Graham Taylor, you worked with Dave

:20:15. > :20:18.Richardson at Leicester and you say he decided to tell Dave Richardson

:20:19. > :20:22.what Ted Langford had done to you, what did you say to Dave Richardson?

:20:23. > :20:28.I told him what happened and it was over a number of phone calls. The

:20:29. > :20:34.phone calls went on more about three to five weeks. And I was told that

:20:35. > :20:41.something, they were dealing with it. They were dealing with it. And

:20:42. > :20:47.then I got a phone call to say to me can you really be doing with all of

:20:48. > :20:51.this teeny? Can you dealing with the obscenities from the terraces. Just

:20:52. > :20:56.sweep it underneath the carpet, I was told. Dave Richardson denies

:20:57. > :21:01.that he discouraged you from going public. He says he would never have

:21:02. > :21:06.done that. He says he did everything possible to protect young players.

:21:07. > :21:08.When we first spoke to him, he initially appeared to remember

:21:09. > :21:13.speaking to you, several times, over the phone back in 1988, but in a

:21:14. > :21:17.statement last night, he clarified his comments and he said he did not

:21:18. > :21:24.believe he had ever spoken to you about the abuse. You say you

:21:25. > :21:28.suffered, but he says that he and Graham Taylor and Doug Ellis had

:21:29. > :21:33.heard claims of abuse from other parents and decided to sack Ted

:21:34. > :21:39.Langford. This is Dave Richardson's statement last night. During the

:21:40. > :21:43.1987, 1988 pre-season I was told of some alarming allegations by Mr

:21:44. > :21:47.Langford by a member of staff at Aston Villa. I took these seriously

:21:48. > :21:52.and began making inquiries. These led me to speak to the parents of

:21:53. > :21:55.two young footballers at aston Villa who each told me their sons were

:21:56. > :21:58.abused by Ted Langford. I asked them if they were going to report the

:21:59. > :22:02.allegations to the police or if they wanted to. After consulting with

:22:03. > :22:06.each other, both sets of parents told me they didn't want the matter

:22:07. > :22:10.reported to the police. I don't think you were aware that other

:22:11. > :22:15.parents had reported the abuse until now? I have never been aware of

:22:16. > :22:19.that. Some months after you flagged this abuse to Villa, Langford was

:22:20. > :22:25.sacked. But he wasn't reported to the police by the club, what do you

:22:26. > :22:35.think of that? Why? Why was he not reported? How does that make you

:22:36. > :22:40.feel, the fact that they didn't? What were they were trying to do at

:22:41. > :22:43.the time, I don't know. All I know, I reported to the people I thought

:22:44. > :22:46.it was right to report it to. For them not to report it to the police,

:22:47. > :22:53.I just can't understand why they didn't do it. What do you think

:22:54. > :23:01.about the fact that other parents talked to staff at Villa about their

:23:02. > :23:04.own boys being abused? Well, when I first went forward to reveal what

:23:05. > :23:11.had happened to me, I asked three other lads to come with me as well.

:23:12. > :23:19.They didn't have the courage at the time to come forward. And I just did

:23:20. > :23:24.what I had to do Victoria. 20 years after you flagged this, after you

:23:25. > :23:29.first raised the alarm over Langford he was convicted of abusing boys at

:23:30. > :23:36.Villa and Leicester. At least one conviction is of abuse in 1989. So

:23:37. > :23:40.after you raised the alarm about him, what do you think about that?

:23:41. > :23:50.It could have been stopped. It could have been stopped. Ted Langford died

:23:51. > :23:54.in 2011. When you rang the police to tell them what had happened to you,

:23:55. > :23:59.they told you, so they couldn't take it any further. On Friday, I think,

:24:00. > :24:04.you heard that the FA want to meet you? I had a phone call off the West

:24:05. > :24:08.Midlands Police saying that a solicitor of the FA was trying to

:24:09. > :24:11.get hold of my details, is it OK to pass them on which I thought they

:24:12. > :24:15.would have been passed on automatically, but I had no

:24:16. > :24:19.objection to that whatsoever. Right. I think the West Midlands Police had

:24:20. > :24:24.alerted the FA in December though when you went to the police first of

:24:25. > :24:30.all? I went to the police on the 1st December this year and I reported it

:24:31. > :24:33.to them and they did an interview with me and they passed the

:24:34. > :24:37.information on to the FA within a couple of days. The West Midlands

:24:38. > :24:43.Police in this have been outstanding. They are keeping me

:24:44. > :24:47.informed about things. So yes, I passed it on on the 1st December.

:24:48. > :24:52.Would you have expected to have heard from the FA by now? Yes. What

:24:53. > :25:00.do you think about the fact that you haven't? I find it unbelievable that

:25:01. > :25:03.I haven't been contacted. You know, I saw a television interview with

:25:04. > :25:07.somebody from the FA saying they would speak to every single football

:25:08. > :25:15.player that comes forward and I've not had a phone call. What kind of

:25:16. > :25:24.impact did the abuse that you endured have on your playing career?

:25:25. > :25:31.I don't know what impact it had on my playing career, but my personal

:25:32. > :25:37.life, how I feel, after all these years, I tried to report this 30

:25:38. > :25:42.years ago and I was ignored. So, the way it makes you feel, it makes you

:25:43. > :25:47.feel dirty. It makes you feel did I encourage it? It makes you ask

:25:48. > :25:52.yourself all sorts of questions. It's always inside your head, you

:25:53. > :25:58.just can't get rid of it. You can't get rid of it. After you say you

:25:59. > :26:03.reported it to Villa, then do you, you just keep it in, do you, for

:26:04. > :26:07.decades? Well, I obviously expected something to be done, but I was just

:26:08. > :26:13.told do I really want the obscenities from the terraces? You

:26:14. > :26:21.know, I just thought, that's it. What can I do about it? I've tried

:26:22. > :26:25.to report it. And it has not got me anywhere and I have to get on with

:26:26. > :26:34.it. In terms of your personal life, what affect has the abuse had on

:26:35. > :26:40.your life? It's took an impact where, you know, I've lived a normal

:26:41. > :26:44.life. Of course, I've lived a normal life, as normal as I can, but when

:26:45. > :26:47.you've got something like that inside of you, it's something that

:26:48. > :26:57.is going to stay with you until the day that you die. I've had two

:26:58. > :27:03.failed marriages. And also, you know, I drunk heavily as well. And

:27:04. > :27:09.you know, it's just things that I tried to do to forget about it. But

:27:10. > :27:14.it is always there. Let me bring in Andy. I know you wanted him

:27:15. > :27:19.alongside you as you talk to us. Andy, your reaction to what Tony has

:27:20. > :27:25.told us today? I just am so, so proud of him and he gave me a call

:27:26. > :27:28.and told me what had happened and each time I get something, it is

:27:29. > :27:33.just, everything is just so shocking. I was just so shocked to

:27:34. > :27:37.hear that he reported it when he was 18 and the fact that nothing

:27:38. > :27:43.happened for him, you know, that's terrible. And I just, you know, I

:27:44. > :27:47.was just so pleased and I'm so proud of him and he's so brave to do this

:27:48. > :27:50.because it takes so much, like everybody else, and we had the phone

:27:51. > :27:54.call on that Sunday, didn't we, Tony? And we were both in tears, you

:27:55. > :27:59.know, because it's just so emotional. It has been an emotional

:28:00. > :28:02.time for everyone, but I just feel like now oum' really proud that I

:28:03. > :28:06.did it initially and there is so many now that are doing the right

:28:07. > :28:12.thing and things are getting done. What about the fact that Villa

:28:13. > :28:16.didn't report Ted Langford to the police because they say other

:28:17. > :28:24.parents, whose boys had been abecaused, didn't want them to? It's

:28:25. > :28:28.a difficult one that, isn't it? It's something that, it is only them back

:28:29. > :28:34.then that can discuss that, it is such a long time ago, but you know,

:28:35. > :28:37.it's just shocking, isn't it, to think of those things were happening

:28:38. > :28:43.then and it was reported and not reported to the police and it goes

:28:44. > :28:48.back to that mandatory reporting, doesn't it? Well, it does. Are you

:28:49. > :28:51.one of those who thinks that mandatory reporting should be

:28:52. > :28:54.introduced to force clubs and anyone else actually to report to the

:28:55. > :28:59.police if they suspect abuse is going on? I mean, the mandatory

:29:00. > :29:05.reporting, I've spoken to people from different countries and when I

:29:06. > :29:10.speak to people in Australia, or the US, they're shocked that mandatory

:29:11. > :29:14.reporting isn't in this country. I mean it is for the politicians to

:29:15. > :29:17.discuss that and come up with a strategy around whether they can do

:29:18. > :29:22.that or not, but surely, you know, there has to be something to report

:29:23. > :29:27.these sort of things that are going on because it's still happening now

:29:28. > :29:30.and we're having the reports to the NSPCC about them happening now so

:29:31. > :29:35.something has to be done at some point. It has to be discussed. I

:29:36. > :29:43.want to ask you about the former Director of Crewe who has been

:29:44. > :29:49.suspended by Crewe, Dario Gradi. Yesterday he was at Sutton United.

:29:50. > :29:55.They say he wasn't a guest of honour of theirs. The FA tell us Dario

:29:56. > :29:59.Gradi's ban, or suspension, doesn't stop him attending a game as a

:30:00. > :30:03.spectator in a personal capacity, but he was there on the pitch, I

:30:04. > :30:11.think we've got pictures to show that. What's your reaction to that?

:30:12. > :30:15.It's difficult really because I'm quite emotional about everything

:30:16. > :30:19.that's happened and yeah, I was shocked and you know, hurt and

:30:20. > :30:23.angry, I will say that personally I was because there is an

:30:24. > :30:26.investigation going on and that independent investigation will

:30:27. > :30:29.reveal what's revealed, I'm not suggest that anything is going to

:30:30. > :30:34.happen with Dario Gradi, but there is a lot of people that are out

:30:35. > :30:39.there, us survivors, that would be deeply upset by it.

:30:40. > :30:50.Dario Gradi has been suspended pending an investigation suggesting

:30:51. > :30:56.that he smoothed over, that is a quote, an accusation in the 70s. He

:30:57. > :31:00.isn't accused of any abuse himself. There is a meeting next week between

:31:01. > :31:05.the FA, what are you hoping to achieve? I have been talking to an

:31:06. > :31:12.adviser around strategies, how we can make for all a safer place, and

:31:13. > :31:17.that is my mission to, to go and make it a safe place. These

:31:18. > :31:20.organisations have agreed to meet me, and that is progress, and they

:31:21. > :31:24.are all collectively going to meet me and I will discuss those things

:31:25. > :31:31.with them, how we can improve and make it a safer place, also from

:31:32. > :31:36.football coaches, because there are so many brilliant coaches out there,

:31:37. > :31:39.there are loads of strategies we can put in place that we can deliver to

:31:40. > :31:45.them, and hopefully they will assist with safeguarding children. Those

:31:46. > :31:48.who are speaking out, are they getting enough support? Are you

:31:49. > :31:55.getting enough support? That is the other thing. I have been diagnosed

:31:56. > :31:58.with PTSD. I also want to speak to the governing bodies about how we

:31:59. > :32:04.can put things in place for all of the survivors, because there are so

:32:05. > :32:07.many of us now, that is another strategy we need in terms of getting

:32:08. > :32:12.the right help and therapy, because it deeply affects us, as Tony said,

:32:13. > :32:16.and it is still affecting us. Over the last eight weeks or so, I have

:32:17. > :32:22.been really suffering, I have had to see my psychiatrist, and this is

:32:23. > :32:26.ongoing for us, so we do need that support and help, and I have a

:32:27. > :32:31.strategy in place but I want to deliver to them for them to support

:32:32. > :32:34.us, because they owe us that. Tony, can I just read you to three

:32:35. > :32:40.messages from our audience who have been watching speak today. This

:32:41. > :32:43.viewer says, I just want to say what a brave, brave man is with you

:32:44. > :32:47.today. You are an inspiration to others that can't find the strength

:32:48. > :32:52.to come forward, keep your head high and keep speaking out because the

:32:53. > :32:57.whole nation supports you. This tweet from John, I feel so

:32:58. > :33:01.sorry for this man, it is sickening. And also unbelievable that the FA

:33:02. > :33:06.have not yet contacted him. And Patrick says, watching the interview

:33:07. > :33:10.about abuse these young players went through, it breaks my heart.

:33:11. > :33:20.What would you say to anyone who might be considering speaking out,

:33:21. > :33:25.but just doesn't know if it is the right thing. Come forward. Simple as

:33:26. > :33:32.that, come forward. Don't be frightened. This man started it all

:33:33. > :33:40.off, that is why I came forward. Just come forward, because it's big,

:33:41. > :33:47.and it happened, and it happened to a lot of people. And it's something

:33:48. > :33:53.that you can't keep inside yourself for ever. If you come forward, at

:33:54. > :33:57.least you will get some help, and that's my mission, Victoria, so we

:33:58. > :34:03.can get that help, and there is so many more out there. We know there

:34:04. > :34:07.is, we have both said it. Everybody who talks about it says, there are

:34:08. > :34:12.so many more, we know it. When you finally contacted the police, Tony,

:34:13. > :34:16.how different did you feel, once you had taken that step? Like I had got

:34:17. > :34:22.the world off my shoulders. Really? Yes, like I had the world off my

:34:23. > :34:30.shoulders. For so many years, you just want the truth to be told, and

:34:31. > :34:35.to actually get it out and speak to people, it just felt like the world

:34:36. > :34:42.was lifted off my shoulders, because after 35 years I got the chance to

:34:43. > :34:48.tell somebody about it, even if it wasn't in good circumstances or

:34:49. > :34:53.anything. But I was relieved. Thank you very much for talking to us. I

:34:54. > :34:58.really appreciated, thank you. Thank you both coming the programme.

:34:59. > :35:00.Aston Villa told us they consider "the safeguarding and welfare

:35:01. > :35:05.of all players and staff to be of paramount importance.

:35:06. > :35:08.And that they would encourage anyone with any allegation or concern

:35:09. > :35:10.regarding safeguarding or other potential wrongdoing to contact

:35:11. > :35:16.Leicester told us the club has "no indication of any current

:35:17. > :35:20.or historic allegations made against or in relation to employees.

:35:21. > :35:22."We would, of course, investigate fully in the event any

:35:23. > :35:31.Bruce Elliott, the chairman of Sutton United, says,

:35:32. > :35:34."Dario Gradi was not a guest of honour at Sutton's FA Cup fourth

:35:35. > :35:41.This was to do with a game that had been played 47 years ago

:35:42. > :35:43.and Sutton United asked all of the players that

:35:44. > :35:48.are still around if they wanted to come to the game.

:35:49. > :35:51.Dario Gradi was one of a number of players from the Sutton United

:35:52. > :35:58.The FA has introduced a dedicated hotline,

:35:59. > :36:00.staffed by NSPCC professionals, which is available 24 hours

:36:01. > :36:12.And you can find a list of other organisations that help

:36:13. > :36:18.with sexual abuse on the BBC Action Line - bbc.co.uk/actionline.

:36:19. > :36:21.And we'll bring you more reaction to that exclusive story

:36:22. > :36:38.Still to come in the next half-hour, as a petition calling for Donald

:36:39. > :36:44.Trump's trip to the UK to be cancelled nears 1 million, we will

:36:45. > :36:51.hear from MPs who are calling on Theresa May to cancel the visit.

:36:52. > :36:53.And MPs are also launching an investigation into how

:36:54. > :36:56.damaging fake news is - the editor-in-chief of one fake news

:36:57. > :36:58.website tells us politicians should focus their attention

:36:59. > :37:02.That's still to come on this mornings programme.

:37:03. > :37:04.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:37:05. > :37:07.Six people have been shot dead - and eight others wounded -

:37:08. > :37:09.at a Mosque in the Canadian city of Quebec.

:37:10. > :37:15.The Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau described the incident

:37:16. > :37:16.as 'a terrorist attack against Muslims.' More than 50

:37:17. > :37:29.people were at the mosque at the time of the attack.

:37:30. > :37:32.President Trump has insisted that his travel ban is not

:37:33. > :37:33.about religion, but about protecting America.

:37:34. > :37:36.The restrictions close US borders to all refugees for four months,

:37:37. > :37:38.and to citizens of seven mainly-Muslim countries

:37:39. > :37:44.UK nationals with dual citizenship will be largely unaffected,

:37:45. > :37:46.but could face extra checks if they're travelling directly

:37:47. > :37:50.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:37:51. > :37:53.of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

:37:54. > :37:56.20 years later that scout, Ted Langford, was jailed for sexual

:37:57. > :37:58.offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989,

:37:59. > :38:02.a year after he left the club Former professional player Tony Brien says

:38:03. > :38:05.he was abused numerous times by Langford from the age of 12

:38:06. > :38:09.whilst playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

:38:10. > :38:13.Speaking to Victoria in the last few minutes,

:38:14. > :38:15.he described it as something that is always there which will stay

:38:16. > :38:30.At the time, I would have done nothing, because I thought it was

:38:31. > :38:37.right. But after all the years, now, I just feel dirty. I can't explain.

:38:38. > :38:40.A free school in London is advertising for a "school

:38:41. > :38:44.The advert says they need someone who will be a "sergeant major

:38:45. > :38:49.The advert goes on to say the role isn't suited to someone who wants

:38:50. > :38:52.to be every child's best friend but for someone who believes

:38:53. > :38:54.children need clear, firm discipline.

:38:55. > :38:55.The Department for Education says it is a matter

:38:56. > :39:01.Black actors have dominated the Screen Actors Guild

:39:02. > :39:10.Denzel Washington was named the best actor for Fences.

:39:11. > :39:12.The event was notable for the outspoken criticism of

:39:13. > :39:16.The actor Ashton Kutcher opened proceedings by welcoming

:39:17. > :39:18."everyone in airports", saying they "belonged in America".

:39:19. > :39:21.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:39:22. > :39:36.Here are some more comments from you messages from Eva Tony Brown and

:39:37. > :39:41.Andy Woodward. Incredible gentlemen, we are all behind you. This one

:39:42. > :39:44.says, this man is amazing, I am a care support worker and I know how

:39:45. > :39:48.people feel in difficult circumstances. For him to speak out

:39:49. > :39:52.is extremely brave. And Veronica, keep going, you brave man, you have

:39:53. > :39:57.been through so much, and we are all behind you. Thank you very much for

:39:58. > :40:01.those. He the sport. It was a weekend of shocks in the FA

:40:02. > :40:06.Cup fourth round. Sutton United joined another non-league team,

:40:07. > :40:11.Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw after beating Leeds

:40:12. > :40:13.United yesterday. Several former players including Alan Shearer have

:40:14. > :40:18.criticised Premier League and championship teams for fielding

:40:19. > :40:24.weakened line-ups. Celtic extended their unbeaten domestic run 27

:40:25. > :40:30.matches by beating hearts 4-0 in the Scottish Premiership. Their win

:40:31. > :40:33.broke 50 record set by Lisbon Lions. England captain Eoin Morgan says

:40:34. > :40:40.poor umpiring cost England victory in the second T20 match against

:40:41. > :40:43.India. Jonah Reed was controversially out in the last over

:40:44. > :40:48.as the tourists lost by just five runs. The decider is on Wednesday.

:40:49. > :40:54.And Roger Federer says he has no intention of retiring after winning

:40:55. > :40:56.his 18th grand slam title yesterday. The new Australian open champion

:40:57. > :40:59.climb to tenth in the world rankings after his incredible victory over

:41:00. > :41:07.Rafa Nadal in Melbourne. Did you watch that, Victoria?

:41:08. > :41:08.I listen to it on the radio, and it was fabulous, it really was. Thank

:41:09. > :41:13.you. Prime Minister Theresa May has made

:41:14. > :41:16.it clear the devolved administrations will not be given

:41:17. > :41:18.a decisive role in the UK's divorce from the European Union ahead

:41:19. > :41:21.of talks later this morning Our correspondent Thomas

:41:22. > :41:38.Morgan is in Cardiff. Hello, Tomos, what is happening

:41:39. > :41:43.today? I will be discussing Brexit and what the devolved ministers

:41:44. > :41:45.would like to see. Carwyn Jones of the Labour government here in

:41:46. > :41:50.Cardiff has always said he would like to stay in the single market

:41:51. > :41:53.and have a Norway style soft Brexit where we stay in the single market

:41:54. > :41:59.and people can come to the UK as long as they have a job. That is in

:42:00. > :42:04.fact the White Paper he put to Westminster this time last week,

:42:05. > :42:08.with Leanne Wood of Plaid Cymru. That is in sharp contrast to what

:42:09. > :42:16.Theresa May said just two weeks ago, when she said staying in the market

:42:17. > :42:20.was not going to be in option. Nicola Sturgeon said she and Carwyn

:42:21. > :42:25.Jones share similar views on Brexit, and they both wanted to have a vote

:42:26. > :42:33.in their different Senedd, here adding Edinburgh for their devolved

:42:34. > :42:37.nations. So that they have some sort of say as to what happens in Brexit.

:42:38. > :42:44.But of course what we heard last Tuesday is that there wouldn't be a

:42:45. > :42:49.meeting but there would be a consideration when the Brexit talks

:42:50. > :42:54.continue in Westminster. Are there -- are they going to be able to

:42:55. > :42:57.reach an agreement? Difficult to say, because they are both speaking

:42:58. > :43:02.from completely different points of view and want different things.

:43:03. > :43:08.Theresa May set out what she thought would be the most possible realistic

:43:09. > :43:11.way for the UK leaving the European Union two weeks ago. In sharp

:43:12. > :43:16.contrast to what Carwyn Jones wanted, which was to stay in the

:43:17. > :43:20.single market. He believes it is so important for Wales as businesses

:43:21. > :43:23.rely on the single market. Wales was the only other country in the UK

:43:24. > :43:28.that voted the European Union, but of course Carwyn Jones, First

:43:29. > :43:31.Minister, of labour, campaign to stay in the EU, so difficult

:43:32. > :43:36.position for him to try to get his voice and what he would like to see

:43:37. > :43:40.happen. But with Nicola Sturgeon coming down as Scotland having voted

:43:41. > :43:44.to remain, he does have extra help when they consider these to Scotians

:43:45. > :43:48.later in Cardiff. Thank you very much, Tomos.

:43:49. > :43:51.Tens of thousands of people in America have taken part in protests

:43:52. > :43:53.against President Trump's ban on citizens of seven mainly Muslim

:43:54. > :43:57.The President says the restrictions would be lifted once policies

:43:58. > :44:00.to improve America's security have been implemented.

:44:01. > :44:02.The Foreign Office says UK nationals travelling to America shouldn't be

:44:03. > :44:08.The Foreign Office has now clarified that Brits with dual nationality

:44:09. > :44:11.from one of the seven countries won't be banned from travelling

:44:12. > :44:13.to the States, but could face extra border checks.

:44:14. > :44:24.Here's how the story has unfolded over the last 48 hours.

:44:25. > :44:28.Do you know, if you are Christian in Syria, it was impossible,

:44:29. > :44:35.at least very, very tough to get into the United States.

:44:36. > :44:38.If you are a Muslim, you could come in, and I thought

:44:39. > :44:42.It is, and as my sign says, morally wrong

:44:43. > :44:54.It goes against everything this country stands for,

:44:55. > :44:56.everything this country was built on.

:44:57. > :45:02.It is un-American, it is unconstitutional.

:45:03. > :45:08.It has to be revoked and changed and fought against.

:45:09. > :45:30.When I left home, I was not sure if I was going to make it

:45:31. > :45:39.because there were so many twisting news about people who were detained.

:45:40. > :45:40.The executive order was not very clear.

:45:41. > :45:44.So everybody is panicked right now in Afghanistan.

:45:45. > :45:56.The values that our President seems to have espoused are so not mine

:45:57. > :46:05.I have a toddler at home and I don't want him to grow up in a world

:46:06. > :46:08.where we act from hate and fear of people that look

:46:09. > :46:19.No hate, no fear, refugees are welcome here!

:46:20. > :46:22.The United States is responsible for the United States

:46:23. > :46:28.The United Kingdom is responsible for the United

:46:29. > :46:32.The Prime Minister is not a shoot from the hip type of politician.

:46:33. > :46:35.She wants to understand precisely what the implications are.

:46:36. > :46:38.There is always pressure to respond within a new cycle and so on.

:46:39. > :46:41.Important thing is we are saying that we disagree with it

:46:42. > :46:48.He was elected to say he would do everything within his power

:46:49. > :46:50.to protect America from infiltration by Isis terrorists.

:46:51. > :46:59.Now, there are seven countries on that list.

:47:00. > :47:06.He says he will revisit the policy? Is it a U-turn? Has the White House

:47:07. > :47:09.been knocked by the wave of criticism from around the world and

:47:10. > :47:13.within America, you bet it has. I'm not happy about him coming here

:47:14. > :47:17.until the ban is lifted. Look at what is happening with those

:47:18. > :47:20.countries, how many more is it going to be and what's going to be the

:47:21. > :47:23.long-term effect of this on the rest of the world? The last four or five

:47:24. > :47:27.years have required a degree of caution that we have not been

:47:28. > :47:32.exercising before. I think it is appropriate. Whatever needs to be

:47:33. > :47:37.done, has to be done and this is for the safety of everybody. We feel

:47:38. > :47:42.very threatened in this country and there is a lot of things that the

:47:43. > :47:45.general public don't know about that the Government know abouts as far as

:47:46. > :47:54.security and threats to our country and if they feel this is necessary,

:47:55. > :48:02.then I'm with it all the way. That petition calling for Donald

:48:03. > :48:04.Trump's state visit to the UK to be cancelled, it is 994, 365. It is on

:48:05. > :48:08.course for one million. Let's speak to some people

:48:09. > :48:11.affected by the travel ban. In Chicago is Sananeh Khoshini

:48:12. > :48:13.who is Iranian, her husband Sananeh's parents are currently

:48:14. > :48:20.on holiday in Iran. She's worried that they

:48:21. > :48:22.won't be able to return. Also with us some Brits

:48:23. > :48:23.with dual-nationality. Naz Jahanshahi is an Iranian-born

:48:24. > :48:27.physics student from Manchester. Khaled El Mayet is a

:48:28. > :48:35.Libyan-British businessman. Abdulaziz Lamlum is

:48:36. > :48:42.a Libyan-British film-maker. Yesterday they all thought

:48:43. > :48:44.they would be banned from travelling to the States, but they now know

:48:45. > :48:47.they can travel there, President Trump says his policy

:48:48. > :48:51.is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas

:48:52. > :48:53.for refugees from Ryan Girdusky is a Senior Writer

:48:54. > :49:06.for Red Alert Politics Just explain how this travel ban is

:49:07. > :49:20.going to affect your family. Yes, as you already stated my family and my

:49:21. > :49:28.parents are visiting family in Iraq and based. It will be impacting my

:49:29. > :49:33.travelling plans. Both of our travelling plans to see family in

:49:34. > :49:39.New York and also I do travel for work abroad and that's been impacted

:49:40. > :49:44.by this executive order. You, as I understand it, you have a green card

:49:45. > :49:51.as do your parents and the Trump administration, have now made it

:49:52. > :49:57.clear that anyone with green cards can travel freely, irrespective of

:49:58. > :50:06.where they were born? That has actually not been fully clear. OK.

:50:07. > :50:10.Green cardholders would be allowed to come here. As far as I have seen

:50:11. > :50:17.so far, there has been back tracking. I would love to see

:50:18. > :50:21.something with clarity frommed administration in writing or obtheir

:50:22. > :50:28.website. White House Chief-of-Staff says the order doesn't affect green

:50:29. > :50:35.cardholders moving forward. Does that help? I just, you know, with

:50:36. > :50:40.this situation, you don't know until something forces your hand. So when

:50:41. > :50:44.our parents, when they're coming back, let's see if they are allowed

:50:45. > :50:48.in and allowed on their flight and whether they're detained here. But

:50:49. > :50:52.it doesn't hurt to have some clarity, not just in a press

:50:53. > :50:57.statement, offhand from previous, but to have something that's clearly

:50:58. > :51:01.laid out. Fair enough. Rye arnings are you surprised at the reaction to

:51:02. > :51:08.Mr Trump enacting what he said he was going to do if elected? No, not

:51:09. > :51:12.really. I think that there are people who are very emotional about

:51:13. > :51:19.the issue and there are some who are willing to oppose him at anything

:51:20. > :51:23.when he abolished T Phehlukwayo and you had people like Bernie Sanders

:51:24. > :51:35.praising him. Bernie Sanders was attacked by his own supporters

:51:36. > :51:42.saying how dare you give him any congratulations message. Let me

:51:43. > :51:48.bring in some other people. Abdul and ka lead. Are you emotional about

:51:49. > :51:51.this? Well, I wasn't really emotional. I didn't think I had

:51:52. > :51:56.anything to do with this at all until I got a message saying, "You

:51:57. > :51:59.can't go to America either." I got quite emotional because it means I

:52:00. > :52:05.can't go to America to do my job if needs to be as a film-maker, I do

:52:06. > :52:09.commercial work and if an ad, if I need to make an ad in the United

:52:10. > :52:15.States and I can't go and film there, I just lose work really. Are

:52:16. > :52:21.you emotional about it? Of course, I'm emotional. The main point is not

:52:22. > :52:26.about whether I can travel to States today or tomorrow, or the next few

:52:27. > :52:28.months, for me, it is the backlash, the domino-effect that we might see

:52:29. > :52:33.from this. Already in Canada we have seen what happened in the mosque

:52:34. > :52:37.there. It would be difficult to say that isn't in some way inspired by

:52:38. > :52:42.what Trump has been doing and Brexit. If only in terms of

:52:43. > :52:48.justifying these beliefs. Look at what is happening in Greece. Look at

:52:49. > :52:54.the riots which we're seeing. If you look at GCSEs at 16. If you watch a

:52:55. > :52:58.video from history with the Nazi with their flags, what we saw in

:52:59. > :53:02.Greece looked similar. I'm not saying about Trump as an individual,

:53:03. > :53:06.the specific law he signed today, it is the fct and the backlash that's

:53:07. > :53:13.having, the justification it gives the people who may have harboured

:53:14. > :53:22.some bigoted and racist views, but kept them to themselves, but only

:53:23. > :53:33.spoke to them to people of similar opinions. The shooter in the back

:53:34. > :53:37.was a Muslim? You clearly don't know the facts. Attacking my president.

:53:38. > :53:41.No, that's completely and utterly nonsense and how dare you. How dare

:53:42. > :53:46.you. Regarding the protests in Greece... That's nonsense. As far as

:53:47. > :53:56.a backlash against Trump goes, well considering the polls came out

:53:57. > :54:00.yesterday in many European nations, far-right party, the Freedom Party

:54:01. > :54:04.and Marie Le Pen all leading in polls, apparently it is not that

:54:05. > :54:10.strong of a backlash. That's the backlash right there. The fact that

:54:11. > :54:14.people like Nigel Farage, these right-wing parties are now getting

:54:15. > :54:19.supportment that is the consequence that I am alluding to when I say

:54:20. > :54:23.what Trump is doing is allowing those people to allow the public of

:54:24. > :54:28.other countries to justify supporting those people. What did

:54:29. > :54:32.you think, you are an Iranian born physics student, you're in

:54:33. > :54:39.Manchester. What did you think about the Trump travel ban? I was shocked

:54:40. > :54:42.and surprised and upset because in today's world, you don't expect to

:54:43. > :54:49.have to deal with anything like this. This level of discrimination

:54:50. > :54:53.at all. You know the ban no longer applies to UK citizens unless

:54:54. > :54:59.they're coming from one of those seven countries? Yes. They will face

:55:00. > :55:05.extra checks? That has surfaced overnight, but there is the worry

:55:06. > :55:08.that upon arriving to the US... Sorry, I apologise for interrupting,

:55:09. > :55:13.we're going to hear from Norman. Hi Norman. I have got on my screen the

:55:14. > :55:18.number of people who have signed the petition calling for the state visit

:55:19. > :55:22.to be scrapped and it is cruised above one million people signing

:55:23. > :55:28.that in the past 36 hours. That's not the biggest ever petition, but

:55:29. > :55:33.it has to be one of the fastest petition. So what will happen now is

:55:34. > :55:38.that MPs on the so-called petitions committee meet tomorrow afternoon to

:55:39. > :55:42.decide whether there should be a Commons debate about whether

:55:43. > :55:45.president Trump should come here. Having spoken to folk in Downing

:55:46. > :55:50.Street, they are adamant that this State visit is going ahead come what

:55:51. > :55:55.may. Their argument being that were to scrap it and withdraw the

:55:56. > :55:57.invitation, that would just completely undermine everything they

:55:58. > :56:01.believe they have achieved through that visit to Washington. So they

:56:02. > :56:05.are minded to press ahead with the State visit regardless of this

:56:06. > :56:08.petition, regardless of a likely debate in the Commons and regardless

:56:09. > :56:12.of the outcome of that debate. What do you think of that, despite the

:56:13. > :56:16.petition reaching over one million, Downing Street say look, we extended

:56:17. > :56:19.an invitation for the state visit and it was accepted? Well, it's just

:56:20. > :56:27.something that we're going to have to come to accept. He's going to

:56:28. > :56:32.come to the UK if that's what the Government wants, but he won't be

:56:33. > :56:37.welcomed by the people. Do you agree, Abdul? I really don't know. I

:56:38. > :56:40.will see what Trump, let's see hat impact really does. For me

:56:41. > :56:45.personally, I don't see how it will affect me until now. As a

:56:46. > :56:50.film-maker, again, I have been thinking about this practically, in

:56:51. > :56:53.terms of jobs, not just film making and art generally, there was an

:56:54. > :57:01.Iranian film-maker who was supposed to be at the Oscars and can't go

:57:02. > :57:04.now. Winning his second Oscar, his artistic integrity is down the

:57:05. > :57:12.drain. You have got two passports, is that correct? Yes. You got on the

:57:13. > :57:15.plane to the States and you arrive. You have got two passports and what

:57:16. > :57:27.impact do you think that's going to have? Just to make sure I'm not

:57:28. > :57:31.someone a bit dodgy. I wonder if it would make you think twice about

:57:32. > :57:38.leaving your country for a while? In case you couldn't get back?

:57:39. > :57:43.Absolutely. We have built a home that we value very much and we have

:57:44. > :57:50.family and friends. It does make us decide otherwise. We had to fight

:57:51. > :57:53.hard to be together. We just never thought it would be the American

:57:54. > :58:01.side of our relationship that would give us the most trouble. Ryan, does

:58:02. > :58:04.that, you must feel some sympathy when people like this couple say we

:58:05. > :58:07.are not going to leave the country in case we can't get back to our

:58:08. > :58:12.home and our family and friends? Yes, it is very concerning and I do

:58:13. > :58:19.hope the Trump administration puts out, you know, some kind of document

:58:20. > :58:23.that says what was said on television yesterday reassuring

:58:24. > :58:26.American green cardholders that green cardholder to mattering who

:58:27. > :58:31.come from one of the seven countries that they can freely travel and that

:58:32. > :58:35.their family can come home safe. But a lot of this emotion was set forth

:58:36. > :58:38.by the President Obama administration. Look, six of these

:58:39. > :58:42.seven countries don't have a Government. There is no way to vet

:58:43. > :58:47.some of these people from some of the places. President Obama did not

:58:48. > :58:51.ban specific people from entering the US just because they were

:58:52. > :58:56.citizens from seven countries? President Obama listed those seven

:58:57. > :59:02.countries exclusively, the same seven, and had travel strictions on

:59:03. > :59:07.them. What Trump did was a 90 day hold for six of the seven countries

:59:08. > :59:13.except for Syria which is in the middle of a civil war, it was a 90

:59:14. > :59:16.day hold which is 87 days, I think. Yes, I hope that American green

:59:17. > :59:21.cardholders have some clarification and they are able to travel freely

:59:22. > :59:26.and their rights are respected. But overall, I do think that there is a

:59:27. > :59:30.campaign on this issue and there is a reason, I think, a lot of his

:59:31. > :59:34.supporters will find it fine. Thank you all very much for coming

:59:35. > :59:39.on the programme. Thank you. The latest news and sport is coming

:59:40. > :59:43.up. Coming up, a school in London is advertising for a school detention

:59:44. > :59:48.director who will be a sergeant major in the detention room. Well'

:59:49. > :59:51.get reaction to this particular job being advertised. We think possibly

:59:52. > :59:55.the first time such a role has been advertised for a school in this

:59:56. > :59:57.country. Before that, latest weather. Here is

:59:58. > :00:13.Carol. It has been a cloudy start to today,

:00:14. > :00:19.look at these pictures from our weather watchers. In Aberdeen, lying

:00:20. > :00:24.snow and clear skies, and in Guernsey, quite a lot of cloud

:00:25. > :00:28.around. This week it will turn more unsettled, spells of rain, that it

:00:29. > :00:34.will be mild and windy, particularly towards the end of the week. This

:00:35. > :00:39.morning temperatures are as low as -10 in parts of the Highlands, so it

:00:40. > :00:44.is cold and frosty with patchy fog around, but that will lift leaving

:00:45. > :00:48.some sunshine. For the rest of England, all of Wales and Northern

:00:49. > :00:51.Ireland, it is fairly cloudy. The rain coming in across the south-west

:00:52. > :00:55.will continue to journey slowly north eastwards through the course

:00:56. > :01:00.of the day, getting into Southern and south-western parts of Wales.

:01:01. > :01:05.Murky and low cloud, Summerhill fog and drizzle in Wales, and Northern

:01:06. > :01:09.Ireland, a fairly dank day, a fair bit of cloud around with drizzle and

:01:10. > :01:13.spots of rain, but then we are into the sunshine across Scotland,

:01:14. > :01:19.beautiful, crisp winter's day, but feeling nippy if you step out. There

:01:20. > :01:23.are areas of cloud, sunny spells, but for much of England, the odd

:01:24. > :01:26.writer break, and for most it will remain cloudy and damp with some

:01:27. > :01:30.drizzle, then the rain that bit further west. Through the evening

:01:31. > :01:36.and overnight, the rain continues to go slowly eastwards. Ahead of it,

:01:37. > :01:40.under clearer skies, there could be some early frost, but that will be

:01:41. > :01:45.replaced by cloud and rain coming in, temperatures up by the end of

:01:46. > :01:50.the night. Quite a different night, for some it will be 16 degrees

:01:51. > :01:54.higher tomorrow morning than it was this morning. Tomorrow again,

:01:55. > :01:59.another cloudy, murky, damp day with hill fog, low cloud and all of the

:02:00. > :02:01.rain moving out of Northern Ireland but remaining across Scotland,

:02:02. > :02:09.England and Wales to different degrees of intensity. For Northern

:02:10. > :02:14.Ireland, it will brighten up. Temperatures picking up as we move

:02:15. > :02:17.further north. For Wednesday, we start off with the rain in eastern

:02:18. > :02:22.areas, but it will tend to move away, leaving a veil of cloud behind

:02:23. > :02:26.it. Towards the West, a return to some rain and windy conditions, and

:02:27. > :02:30.that leads us to the end of the week. It looks like with areas of

:02:31. > :02:32.low pressure coming our way, we will see some wet and windy weather, with

:02:33. > :02:39.gales possibly severe gales. It's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,

:02:40. > :02:45.I'm Victoria Derbyshire. This programme has discovered that

:02:46. > :02:52.Aston Villa sacked a scout accused of sexually abusing boys in 1988

:02:53. > :02:55.but did not go to police. Former professional player

:02:56. > :02:57.Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity to tell us he went

:02:58. > :03:00.to the club to tell them about the abuse he was subjected

:03:01. > :03:10.to by scout Ted Langford. I was dealing with it, and then I

:03:11. > :03:13.got a phone call to say to me, can you really be dealing with all this,

:03:14. > :03:17.can you be dealing with all the obscenities from the terraces? Just

:03:18. > :03:23.sweep it underneath the carpet, I was told. More reaction to that

:03:24. > :03:28.story after 11. Also, the petition for Donald Trump's visit to be

:03:29. > :03:30.cancelled has reached a million signatures since it was launched at

:03:31. > :03:34.the weekend. They comes after criticism from around the world

:03:35. > :03:41.after restrictions on travel to the night of states.

:03:42. > :03:45.The White House insists that immigration bans against seven

:03:46. > :03:48.countries are not directed against Muslims.

:03:49. > :03:54.If you were a Christian, it was tough to get into the United States,

:03:55. > :03:55.if you were a Muslim you could come in, and I thought it was very

:03:56. > :04:00.unfair. A free school in London

:04:01. > :04:02.is advertising for a "school detention director" who will be

:04:03. > :04:04.a "sergeant major in The role is being advertised

:04:05. > :04:08.by the Michaela School in London - which bills itself as the strictest

:04:09. > :04:19.school in Britain. Time for the latest news. Here's

:04:20. > :04:27.Joanna. and eight others wounded -

:04:28. > :04:32.at a Mosque in the Canadian The Canadian Prime Minister Justin

:04:33. > :04:37.Trudeau described the incident as 'a terrorist attack

:04:38. > :04:42.against Muslims.' President Trump has insisted that

:04:43. > :04:43.his travel ban is not about religion, but about protecting

:04:44. > :04:46.America. The restrictions close US borders

:04:47. > :04:49.to all refugees for four months, and to citizens of seven

:04:50. > :04:50.mainly-Muslim countries UK nationals with dual citizenship

:04:51. > :04:55.will be largely unaffected, but could face extra checks

:04:56. > :05:01.if they're travelling directly Here the last hour, a petition

:05:02. > :05:04.calling for Donald Trump's state visit to the UK to be called off has

:05:05. > :05:08.been backed by more than a million people.

:05:09. > :05:12.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:05:13. > :05:16.of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

:05:17. > :05:19.20 years later, that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

:05:20. > :05:21.offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

:05:22. > :05:25.Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

:05:26. > :05:28.numerous times by Langord from the age of 12 whilst

:05:29. > :05:30.playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

:05:31. > :05:32.Speaking to Victoria in the last few minutes,

:05:33. > :05:34.he described it as something that will stay with him

:05:35. > :05:47.You dream of becoming a professional footballer. You believed things that

:05:48. > :05:51.people said to you. And I would have done anything to become a

:05:52. > :05:54.professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

:05:55. > :06:00.was actually wrong. Because I trusted adults.

:06:01. > :06:03.Theresa May says she will not "shy away" from tough talks on Brexit

:06:04. > :06:05.when she meets representatives of the devolved governments

:06:06. > :06:07.of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland today.

:06:08. > :06:10.The Prime Minister will chair a meeting of the Joint Ministerial

:06:11. > :06:12.Committee in Cardiff to discuss how all parts of the UK can

:06:13. > :06:15.work together to support trade and investment.

:06:16. > :06:17.Last week the Supreme Court ruled that devolved assemblies cannot

:06:18. > :06:26.Black actors have dominated the Screen Actors Guild

:06:27. > :06:29.Denzel Washington was named the best actor for 'Fences'.

:06:30. > :06:31.The event was notable for the outspoken criticism of

:06:32. > :06:35.The actor Ashton Kutcher opened proceedings by welcoming

:06:36. > :06:41."everyone in airports" - saying they "belonged in America".

:06:42. > :06:47.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:06:48. > :06:53.Time for the sport now with Tim. There will be two clubs in the FA

:06:54. > :06:58.Cup fifth round. Sutton United joined another

:06:59. > :07:00.non-league team, Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw

:07:01. > :07:08.after beating Leeds Leeds made ten changes to their

:07:09. > :07:12.team, and the decision by Premier League and championship teams to

:07:13. > :07:16.feel weak and sizes been criticised by former players. Newcastle fans

:07:17. > :07:20.travel 250 miles expecting their team to win, and he put out a

:07:21. > :07:23.weakened team, Newcastle have one of the best teams in the championship,

:07:24. > :07:29.six points clear with a game in hand of third place. So it is very

:07:30. > :07:33.disappointing. Watford were another Premier League team to get knocked

:07:34. > :07:38.out in the fourth round. They lost 1-0 at League 1 Millwall yesterday.

:07:39. > :07:41.Another former player sat next to Alan Shearer there, Phil Neville,

:07:42. > :07:46.thinks the number of changes made by the bigger clubs is not devaluing

:07:47. > :07:49.the competition. Every team is making changes, not just Premier

:07:50. > :07:54.League teams, so I think it is making the FA Cup better. Once you

:07:55. > :07:58.get to the fifth and sixth rounds, a lot of clubs are playing at home and

:07:59. > :08:02.making changes. We have seen so many upsets so far, it is fantastic for

:08:03. > :08:09.the clubs, and I think it is good to see the kids play. Celtic extended

:08:10. > :08:15.their unbeaten domestic run to a record and went 22 points clear at

:08:16. > :08:18.the top of the Scottish Premiership. Callum McGregor opened the scoring,

:08:19. > :08:22.Scott Sinclair scored twice and Patrick Roberts added another. That

:08:23. > :08:29.win broke the 50-year-old unbeaten record set by Celtic's famous Lisbon

:08:30. > :08:32.Lions team. England captain Eoin Morgan says a poor umpiring decision

:08:33. > :08:42.in the final over cost his side victory in the second 2020 match --

:08:43. > :08:46.second Twenty20 match against India. England needed just eight runs from

:08:47. > :08:52.six balls when Giroud was given out lbw, although replays showed he

:08:53. > :08:57.actually hit the ball with his bat. England eventually lost by five

:08:58. > :09:00.runs, and the review decision for correcting mistakes made by umpires

:09:01. > :09:07.is not in place in this series, set England had no way to challenge

:09:08. > :09:14.this. If this was a World Cup and we lost a World Cup final, you would be

:09:15. > :09:18.spewing. So the fact that it is not, but there is a concern, there is as

:09:19. > :09:21.much on the line is that is in a one-day game are Test match, so

:09:22. > :09:25.there is no reason why it shouldn't be used. Tennis, and Dan Evans is

:09:26. > :09:29.the new British and two after his impressive run to the fourth round

:09:30. > :09:33.of the Australian open last week. He is up to a career-high 45th, two

:09:34. > :09:37.ahead of Kyle Edmund. Meanwhile several bookmakers have made

:09:38. > :09:43.35-year-old Roger Federer odds-on to win another grand slam tournament

:09:44. > :09:47.after his stunning Australian Open victory over Rafael Nadal yesterday.

:09:48. > :09:54.Federer ended a five-year wait for his 18th major with an epic five set

:09:55. > :09:57.win. When I heard that in Switzerland people were following

:09:58. > :10:05.me, and I saw people just being generally really happy for me that I

:10:06. > :10:09.won a slam again, it is a fairy tale after the comeback to combat this

:10:10. > :10:13.week, the goal was absolutely to be playing, which is why took the six

:10:14. > :10:16.months off and hopefully continue playing for a couple of years. What

:10:17. > :10:19.a story, quite a player, that Roger Federer! Vitoria.

:10:20. > :10:25.This morning, this programme has discovered that Aston Villa did not

:10:26. > :10:28.go to the police after parents and boys raised concerns about

:10:29. > :10:32.He was however sacked by Villa within months

:10:33. > :10:39.20 years later, that scout, Ted Langford, admitted sexual

:10:40. > :10:44.offences between 1976 and 1989, a year after he left the club.

:10:45. > :10:49.This morning in an exclusive interview, former professional

:10:50. > :10:52.player Tony Brien has waived his right to anonymity

:10:53. > :10:58.to tell us about the abuse he was subjected to by Ted Langford

:10:59. > :11:02.whilst at another club, and how he tried to flag concerns

:11:03. > :11:03.about Langford whilst he worked at Villa.

:11:04. > :11:13.I was in shock, to say the least. I asked him, could I not do this at

:11:14. > :11:18.home, or anything like that, and he said no, it needs to be fresh. And

:11:19. > :11:22.he said that the reason why he needed a sperm sample was so that

:11:23. > :11:29.the Leicester City doctors could examine it to see if I had a gene

:11:30. > :11:36.inside of me to make me become a footballer. A footballer's gene?

:11:37. > :11:43.Yes, and being so young at that time, you believe anything.

:11:44. > :11:47.And has been looking into the details of what happened

:11:48. > :11:49.at Aston Villa and Leicester back in the 1980s.

:11:50. > :11:52.Ted Langford had links to Leicester and Villa in the 1980s -

:11:53. > :11:57.This is the only photo we could find of him.

:11:58. > :12:01.We now know he was responsible for abusing a large

:12:02. > :12:09.He was convicted of historic offence ten years ago and was sent to jail

:12:10. > :12:13.And you've found out Aston Villa were aware

:12:14. > :12:20.So we now know Langford was sacked by Villa in 1988

:12:21. > :12:30.after they received reports of abuse.

:12:31. > :12:34.The club's assistant manager was Dave Richardson -

:12:35. > :12:36.he says he started hearing rumours, spoke to a number of players

:12:37. > :12:39.and went to other senior members of staff at the club.

:12:40. > :12:42.He says took this extremely seriously - held meetings with two

:12:43. > :12:46.The decision was made to get rid of the scout.

:12:47. > :12:51.But the club didn't go to the police?

:12:52. > :12:53.No and this is a key point and says a lot about the way abuse cases

:12:54. > :12:58.These days a club would almost certainly go straight to the police

:12:59. > :13:05.It was a different situation back in the 1980s. There wasn't the

:13:06. > :13:12.safeguarding in place at the clubs. Staff at Villa at the time say

:13:13. > :13:15.they felt they couldn't go that far without getting permission

:13:16. > :13:18.from the parents involved. And - they say - those parents

:13:19. > :13:21.didn't want to take it any further. Dave Richardson - who went on to be

:13:22. > :13:24.head of youth development for the Premier League told us:

:13:25. > :13:27."I did what I felt was right at the time for the club

:13:28. > :13:30.and the boys who were abused. Parents told me they did not want

:13:31. > :13:33.the matter reported to the police." But Tony Brien also

:13:34. > :13:41.says he came forward? So Tony says he called

:13:42. > :13:44.Dave Richardson at Aston Villa back in 1988 to tell the club he had been

:13:45. > :13:53.abused by the scout. He also said he spoke to another

:13:54. > :13:59.member of staff there at the time. He would have been 18 or 19

:14:00. > :14:02.at the time so not a child. Tony feels he was put off

:14:03. > :14:07.from going public with the abuse. We spoke to Dave Richards and at

:14:08. > :14:13.Aston Villa. Dave Richardson at Villa

:14:14. > :14:15.initially appeared to agree But in a later statement

:14:16. > :14:19.he said he could not He says he would never tell a victim

:14:20. > :14:25.of abuse not to come forward. What happened to the scout

:14:26. > :14:28.after he was sacked? Nothing from him until he is

:14:29. > :14:50.arrested. One of those offences took place -

:14:51. > :14:53.we believe - in 1989. So the year after he was

:14:54. > :14:55.sacked by Aston Villa. Langford then went to

:14:56. > :15:03.prison and died in 2011. Aston Villa say they are considering

:15:04. > :15:06.the safeguarding of all staff to be of paramount importance, and their

:15:07. > :15:10.courage anyone to come forward with new reports of abuse.

:15:11. > :15:13.It should also be pointed out that Villa was under no legal obligation

:15:14. > :15:20.Even now, that law does not exist. Leicester have also said they will

:15:21. > :15:24.investigate allegations of abuse if they come to light.

:15:25. > :15:27.It's now thought this is a case the FA is looking into as part

:15:28. > :15:31.of its inquiry into sexual abuse in football.

:15:32. > :15:37.Thank you very much, no legal obligation but possibly a moral one.

:15:38. > :15:40.Let's hear more from that exclusive interview with Tony Brien -

:15:41. > :15:43.he describes his abuse in graphic detail - you may not want

:15:44. > :15:54.Where would this abuse take place? He used to take me to a golf course,

:15:55. > :15:58.at the back of the old school that I used to go to, a school in

:15:59. > :16:04.Handsworth and there was a golf course at the back there. And he

:16:05. > :16:12.used to drive up there. That's where it took place.

:16:13. > :16:20.How did it make you feel? At the time, you would have done

:16:21. > :16:28.anything because I thought it was right, but you know, overall the

:16:29. > :16:35.years now, I just feel dirty and I can't explain. It's just, you would

:16:36. > :16:40.have done anything this them days to, you know, you dream of becoming

:16:41. > :16:43.a professional footballer. You know, you believed things that people said

:16:44. > :16:48.to you and I would have done anything to become a professional

:16:49. > :16:53.footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then was actually wrong

:16:54. > :16:59.because I trusted adults. And when at 14 you told him where to go, what

:17:00. > :17:04.had changed? Did you know that this, that what he was doing to you was

:17:05. > :17:09.wrong? Yeah. It's just, I knew something wasn't right and I knew

:17:10. > :17:14.from, we used to go on trips abroad and you know kids were coming out

:17:15. > :17:18.with love bites all over their neck and everything like that and it was

:17:19. > :17:24.just, it was just terrible to see it. Why did he say he had to keep on

:17:25. > :17:31.doing it? He said that my sperm hadn't come back from the doctor's

:17:32. > :17:38.with the right results. It wasn't a test that was completed properly. It

:17:39. > :17:43.was inconclusive? Yes. So, he would say we would have to do the test

:17:44. > :17:52.again, but he'd leave it for a few weeks. We'd have to do the test

:17:53. > :17:58.again. Unbelievable. Yes. This happened six or seven times over

:17:59. > :18:04.that period of two years or so. How did he treat you after it stopped?

:18:05. > :18:08.After you stopped him? After I stopped him, I used to always be sat

:18:09. > :18:13.in the front of the van when we used to go to matches and I think his way

:18:14. > :18:21.of dealing with it, he put me at the back of the van. And you told your

:18:22. > :18:26.mum, didn't you? When I was 18, I revealed t yes, I did. How did she

:18:27. > :18:33.react? Obviously, she was in shock. No mother likes to see her child

:18:34. > :18:41.hurt. But she only knew about it when I'd actually reported it.

:18:42. > :18:46.We've had lovely comments from you for Tony Brien. A texter says, "Well

:18:47. > :18:51.done, Tony. I bet this is the tip of the iceberg and I bet that football

:18:52. > :18:57.isn't the only sport to be tainted by these sick individuals." Julie

:18:58. > :19:01.says, this is heartbreaking." Rebecca says, "Incredible strength."

:19:02. > :19:05.Audrey, "Abuse of any human being is just out and out wrong. Talking is

:19:06. > :19:09.the way forward. I applaud Tony Brien for speaking outment you were

:19:10. > :19:13.not to blame." This texter says, "This man is amazing. I am a care

:19:14. > :19:20.support worker and I know how people feel in difficult circumstances for

:19:21. > :19:25.him to speak out is brave." Veronica says, "Keep going. We are all behind

:19:26. > :19:30.you." This e-mailer, "I can understand what these guys have been

:19:31. > :19:35.through. For many years, teacher did roughly the same as what Tony went

:19:36. > :19:43.through. If you did what he wanted you to travel in his car to

:19:44. > :19:46.football. For a long time the nightmares would continue until I

:19:47. > :19:51.plucked up the courage to tell me mum." The gentleman today on your

:19:52. > :19:55.programme are to be admired for what they are doing as I know how much it

:19:56. > :20:01.hurts and I'm in hears as I write this. Let's hope this helps with the

:20:02. > :20:02.future of youngsters in any sport." Thanks for those. We appreciate

:20:03. > :20:04.them. Conservative MP Damian Collins

:20:05. > :20:06.leads a group of MPs He has previously told us he's

:20:07. > :20:10.concerned that claims have been brushed under the carpet

:20:11. > :20:20.in the past. Your reaction to Tony Brien's story?

:20:21. > :20:24.Well, incredibly powerful story. I think I salute his bravery in coming

:20:25. > :20:28.forward and speaking about it which is not an easy thing to do. It is

:20:29. > :20:32.concerning as this abuse in football has developed, we are seeing another

:20:33. > :20:35.example of a club being aware of abuse or a complaint or an

:20:36. > :20:39.allegation being made and not referring that to the authorities

:20:40. > :20:42.and I think as part of this investigation, into abuse in

:20:43. > :20:48.football, there has to be greater kks now to the legal obligation to

:20:49. > :20:51.declare and report to the police incidents or allegations where abuse

:20:52. > :20:55.has happened. Even though apparently, parents of two boys who

:20:56. > :20:58.were abused by this scout, Ted Langford, said to the club, "I don't

:20:59. > :21:03.want you to report it to the police." Well, I think, it is a

:21:04. > :21:07.difficult issue. The Government is consulting on this with regard to

:21:08. > :21:10.sporting clubs and we have to look at the abuse and say could

:21:11. > :21:13.intervention earlier by reporting the abuser to the police have

:21:14. > :21:17.safeguarded more of the young people in the care of those clubs? The

:21:18. > :21:22.clubs have the responsibility for the care for the players, the young

:21:23. > :21:25.players in their academies. They are fulfilling their dreams by playing

:21:26. > :21:30.at the club and they trust the club and the club has to protect them.

:21:31. > :21:34.You're right on that point, it was 20 years after Tony Brien raise the

:21:35. > :21:40.alarm about Langford that he was convictedment one of the convictions

:21:41. > :21:46.months after he was sacked by Villa? We would want someone out of that to

:21:47. > :21:48.be out of circulation and face the appropriate criminal charges rather

:21:49. > :21:50.than being allowed to continue his crimes at other clubs.

:21:51. > :21:53.Baroness Joan Walmsley is a Liberal Democrat peer who's

:21:54. > :21:55.campaigned for legislation to force clubs and others to report any

:21:56. > :22:07.I mean, do you feel it is a matter of time now before the legislation

:22:08. > :22:11.is changed? Good morning, Victoria. Well, I certainly think so. It

:22:12. > :22:15.should happen and I hope it will because it is yet another sad day

:22:16. > :22:19.when we have had another courageous footballer being able to come

:22:20. > :22:24.forward and tell how adults around him let him down many years ago. And

:22:25. > :22:30.although I think things have changed a great deal, in those days people

:22:31. > :22:33.were concerned about their corporate reputation if anything was known

:22:34. > :22:37.about child abuse. Now, I think it has changed and people lose their

:22:38. > :22:41.reputation when it is found out that they don't have good child

:22:42. > :22:44.safeguarding policies and that if something happens they don't do

:22:45. > :22:48.something about it. Well, if things... Part of the problem is

:22:49. > :22:53.there is no legal obligation to do something about it. You have just

:22:54. > :22:59.told us that you think things have changed. It would be inconceivable

:23:00. > :23:02.that a club in 2017 would not go to police if reports of abuse were made

:23:03. > :23:06.to them. Why do we need manttry reporting? Well, we are not just

:23:07. > :23:11.talking about football clubs and not just talking about 20 years ago. Up

:23:12. > :23:16.until very, very recently there have been cases in situations where

:23:17. > :23:20.people have care of children, a duty of care of children, where abuse has

:23:21. > :23:24.taken place and people have been so scared of their reputation that they

:23:25. > :23:30.have not come forward and told the authorities. And that's got to

:23:31. > :23:35.change. Do you think Damien Collins it is conceivable that a club now

:23:36. > :23:40.that, that any organisation now, if abuse was reported to them, that

:23:41. > :23:45.they wouldn't go to the police? I think it probably is inconceivable

:23:46. > :23:47.now. It doesn't mean to say there shouldn't be a mandatory

:23:48. > :23:52.requirement. There is something else we have to look at in football

:23:53. > :23:57.particularly with the independent inquiry and that's the safe spaces

:23:58. > :24:01.that allow whistle-blowers to come forward. It is a big step for a

:24:02. > :24:06.young player to take whose entire world admission is to become a

:24:07. > :24:08.professional footballer and will do everything the coaches say to

:24:09. > :24:12.realise that position to be put into a situation where they are a victim

:24:13. > :24:16.of abuse and to have to report that to the club is difficult. We have to

:24:17. > :24:20.look at where are the safe spaces people can come forward and bring

:24:21. > :24:24.the allegations. FA have yet to contact anybody we have spoken to in

:24:25. > :24:29.connection with this case. Does that tell you anything? That's

:24:30. > :24:33.concerning. The FA might want the QCs to handle the complaints, but

:24:34. > :24:36.the FA should respond when a complainant has come forward and

:24:37. > :24:43.make sure their case is being considered as part of the review.

:24:44. > :24:47.David Beckham spoke about abuse in football yesterday.

:24:48. > :24:51.There was never anything at Manchester United and it is

:24:52. > :24:56.disgraceful. Nothing at Manchester United, the closest part would have

:24:57. > :25:02.been certain professionals that if we had gone out of line, they would

:25:03. > :25:08.make us to do a funny dance in middle of the changing room, in

:25:09. > :25:12.front of the professionals. So a degree of humiliation? That's all it

:25:13. > :25:15.was. But that was all to teach us a lesson. There was never any

:25:16. > :25:18.wrongdoing. Do you think that the clubs are doing enough to address

:25:19. > :25:22.it? Do you think the FA's response has been adequate? I would like to

:25:23. > :25:26.think that the clubs are all on board with this and I'd like to

:25:27. > :25:33.believe that the FA are doing everything that they can to find out

:25:34. > :25:36.about the allegations and the more these ex-professionals voice their

:25:37. > :25:41.opinions that's when there will be change.

:25:42. > :25:50.He has confidence in the FA, do you have confidence in the FA? The FA

:25:51. > :25:54.set up a review that is led by someone outside of football and has

:25:55. > :25:56.the power to investigate the allegations and to look at the

:25:57. > :26:01.culture within football and what needs to change. I want to see that

:26:02. > :26:03.review completed and I'm sure my committee 234 Parliament will take a

:26:04. > :26:07.strong interest in their recommendations and how they're

:26:08. > :26:10.implamedded. Can I ask you about another issue, your committee is

:26:11. > :26:15.launching an inquiry into fake news. Can you stop it? Should you stop it?

:26:16. > :26:18.Well, we're particularly interested in malicious content that is

:26:19. > :26:23.entirely fabricated and spread online. So, for example, there was a

:26:24. > :26:27.story from America last year, crime story, that was fake. It was shared

:26:28. > :26:30.by over 500,000 people on Facebook and that story was said that the

:26:31. > :26:38.police found the bodies of 19 white women in freezers, each one of them

:26:39. > :26:42.had got marked on their skin the words, "Black lives matter."

:26:43. > :26:46.Probably inciting hatred and dividing communities. This is highly

:26:47. > :26:49.damaging, it is not just celebrity tittle-tattle, it is really

:26:50. > :26:52.unpleasant stories that are presented as if we're real and

:26:53. > :26:58.spread like wildfire across the internet. There are two things I'm

:26:59. > :27:04.interested in, in particular, should news sources have verification tags,

:27:05. > :27:09.in the same way that Twitter has verification tags and the other

:27:10. > :27:17.thing is the responsibility of social media platform like Google to

:27:18. > :27:22.derank news. Should we consider the real sources of fake news as a

:27:23. > :27:28.similar problem? We are talking to a couple of people who write fake news

:27:29. > :27:33.and satire, they say, you should be looking at newspapers for fake news?

:27:34. > :27:36.Newspapers misreport of the there are the regulatory bodies for the

:27:37. > :27:41.press and we know where they are. Action can be taken. A story can be

:27:42. > :27:45.taken down and corrected or an apology issued. When we are talking

:27:46. > :27:48.about fake news websites based in Macedonia or parts of the world

:27:49. > :27:53.that's difficult to reach even when the story is known to be fake, it is

:27:54. > :27:57.hard to stop it being disseminated online. We have to look at how we do

:27:58. > :28:01.that, how is news presented online and how can we help inform consumers

:28:02. > :28:04.of the news so it is easier to identify sources of news that are

:28:05. > :28:06.likely to be false versus the legitimate sources. Thank you very

:28:07. > :28:10.much, Damien Collins. The FA has introduced

:28:11. > :28:14.a dedicated hotline, staffed by NSPCC professionals,

:28:15. > :28:22.which is available 24 hours You can find a list of other

:28:23. > :28:30.organisations that help with sexual abuse on the BBC

:28:31. > :28:34.Action Line, bbc.co.uk/actionline. We'll bring you more reaction

:28:35. > :28:43.to that exclusive story We will talk to people who write

:28:44. > :28:48.fake news and satire. The editor of one of the websites tell us that

:28:49. > :28:50.really politicians should, but utt out.

:28:51. > :28:52.A free school in London is advertising

:28:53. > :28:55.for a "school detention director" who will be a "sergeant major

:28:56. > :29:13.The Canadian Prime Ted Minister described the incident as a

:29:14. > :29:25.terrorist attack against Muslims. President Trump has insisted his

:29:26. > :29:40.travel ban is not about religion but about protecting America. UK

:29:41. > :29:48.nationals with dual citizenship will be largely unaffected but could face

:29:49. > :29:51.further checks if they enter the US from one of the named countries. A

:29:52. > :29:56.petition calling for a Donald Trump's visit to the UK has

:29:57. > :30:00.attracted more than a million signatures.

:30:01. > :30:04.This programme has discovered that Aston Villa sacked a scout accused

:30:05. > :30:07.of sexually abusing boys in 1988 but did not go to police.

:30:08. > :30:10.20 years later - that scout - Ted Langford - was jailed for sexual

:30:11. > :30:12.offences against young boys between 1976 and 1989 -

:30:13. > :30:16.Former professional player Tony Brien says he was abused

:30:17. > :30:19.numerous times by Langford from the age of 12 whilst

:30:20. > :30:28.playing for local youth team Dunlop Terriers.

:30:29. > :30:31.Speaking to Victoria this morning, he described it as something that

:30:32. > :30:32.will stay with him for the rest of his life.

:30:33. > :30:36.When you dream of becoming a professional footballer, you believe

:30:37. > :30:39.things that people say to you, and I would have done anything to become a

:30:40. > :30:41.professional footballer, but I didn't know what I was doing then

:30:42. > :30:45.was wrong, because I trusted adults. away" from tough talks on Brexit

:30:46. > :30:49.when she meets representatives of The Prime Minister is chairing

:30:50. > :30:55.a meeting in Cardiff to discuss how all parts of the UK can work

:30:56. > :30:57.together to support Last week the Supreme Court ruled

:30:58. > :31:01.that devolved assemblies cannot Black actors have dominated

:31:02. > :31:07.the Screen Actors Guild Denzel Washington was named

:31:08. > :31:15.the best actor for Fences. The event was notable

:31:16. > :31:17.for the outspoken criticism of The actor Ashton Kutcher opened

:31:18. > :31:20.proceedings by welcoming "everyone in airports" -

:31:21. > :31:23.saying they "belonged in America". That's a summary of the latest news,

:31:24. > :31:26.join me for BBC Newsroom Thank you. Here's the sport with

:31:27. > :31:36.Tim. It was a weekend of shocks

:31:37. > :31:38.in the FA Cup fourth round. Sutton United joined another

:31:39. > :31:40.non-league team, Lincoln City, in the hat for the fifth round draw

:31:41. > :31:43.after beating Leeds Several former players including

:31:44. > :31:47.Alan Shearer have criticised Premier League and championship

:31:48. > :32:00.teams for fielding Celtic extended their unbeaten

:32:01. > :32:02.domestic run to a record 37 matches by beating Hearts 4-0 in the

:32:03. > :32:08.Scottish Premiership yesterday. Their win broke 50 record

:32:09. > :32:11.set by Lisbon Lions. England captain Eoin Morgan says

:32:12. > :32:14.poor umpiring cost England victory in the second Twenty20

:32:15. > :32:19.match against India. Joe Root was controversially out

:32:20. > :32:22.in the last over as the tourists And Roger Federer says he has no

:32:23. > :32:29.intention of retiring after winning his 18th grand

:32:30. > :32:31.slam title yesterday. The new Australian Open champion

:32:32. > :32:33.climb to tenth in the world rankings after his incredible victory over

:32:34. > :32:37.Rafa Nadal in Melbourne. Downing Street have rejected calls

:32:38. > :32:41.to cancel the proposed state visit by the US President Donald Trump

:32:42. > :32:53.to the UK. Despite more than a million

:32:54. > :32:56.signatures on a position to have the state visit bit cancelled, they are

:32:57. > :33:00.not saying don't, tall, but they don't want it to be a state visit.

:33:01. > :33:03.Number 10 say the invitation has been "issued and accepted."

:33:04. > :33:05.Demonstrations have been taking place in cities and airports

:33:06. > :33:08.across the United States to protest at his plans to restrict

:33:09. > :33:11.Here's how the has unfolded over the last 48 hours.

:33:12. > :33:14.Do you know, if you were Christian in Syria, it was impossible,

:33:15. > :33:18.at least very, very tough, to get into the United States.

:33:19. > :33:20.If you are a Muslim, you could come in, and I thought

:33:21. > :33:28.It is, and as my sign says, morally wrong

:33:29. > :33:35.It goes against everything this country stands for,

:33:36. > :33:39.everything this country was built on.

:33:40. > :33:45.It is un-American, it is unconstitutional.

:33:46. > :33:59.It has to be revoked and changed and fought against.

:34:00. > :34:05.So, should the invitation for a state visit bit withdrawn? Former

:34:06. > :34:11.Foreign Office minister Alistair Burt is here, he thinks it should be

:34:12. > :34:19.postponed. And Labour MP Naz Shah in Leeds says it should be stopped, and

:34:20. > :34:21.he is an extremist. Alistair Burt, postponed until what? Postponed

:34:22. > :34:28.until we have got over this particular period which has so

:34:29. > :34:31.divided people. It was clear from the Prime Minister's successful

:34:32. > :34:37.visit to Washington last week that she can have some impression upon

:34:38. > :34:40.him. We don't know yet how President Trump will respond to people,

:34:41. > :34:44.explain the consequences of his actions, but the bitter decision

:34:45. > :34:47.caused by the decision he made on the travel ban after the Prime

:34:48. > :34:51.Minister left Washington has put the context of the state visit into a

:34:52. > :34:55.different context. But the division remains, even if he changes or

:34:56. > :35:02.modifies this policy, that that that has happened already. And that is

:35:03. > :35:05.true, but as everyone will tell you, there are state visit of all sorts

:35:06. > :35:08.of people to the United Kingdom, it is part of relationship building

:35:09. > :35:12.between the United Kingdom and other people. It is easy to demonstrate

:35:13. > :35:16.against the United States, it is harder to demonstrate against

:35:17. > :35:20.leaders from other places. State visits should be joyous occasions,

:35:21. > :35:24.welcoming occasions, as much as possible, and the difficulty at the

:35:25. > :35:27.moment is it is very hard to see if you are an official in the United

:35:28. > :35:33.States and the United Kingdom, at the moment, that being a visit where

:35:34. > :35:38.the tics of the visit, the reaction of the people on the streets, will

:35:39. > :35:42.be what you would like to see. Downing Street don't agree, the

:35:43. > :35:45.invitation is out there and has been accepted, and it goes ahead. I think

:35:46. > :35:49.the truth of it is that is probably correct. Downing Street is not going

:35:50. > :35:53.to withdraw an invitation, that would be terrible. Whether or not

:35:54. > :35:56.the United States might look at the situation itself and say, there

:35:57. > :36:01.might be a different time to do this. I am not arguing for a

:36:02. > :36:04.complete ban, you have got to have somebody new country, he would then

:36:05. > :36:08.be exposed to what the British press feel about it, what the public feel

:36:09. > :36:11.about it, and who knows where we might be in one of a half or two

:36:12. > :36:15.years' time when the negotiations were leaving the EU have reached a

:36:16. > :36:19.particular stage, the structure conversation we need to have with

:36:20. > :36:21.the United States trade may be in a different place, and bringing the

:36:22. > :36:25.president of the night it to the United Kingdom so he can feel what

:36:26. > :36:31.the relationship is of the country with him and his country is not a

:36:32. > :36:35.bad thing in itself, but I think at the moment, the optics are they

:36:36. > :36:38.visited to be difficult. Alistair Burt, Conservative MP, wanted to be

:36:39. > :36:44.postponed. Naz Shah, what is your position? Good morning. I absolutely

:36:45. > :36:49.agree that it is not a state visit, state visits are reserved for

:36:50. > :36:55.people, statesmen and women, and I can't imagine, I don't feel that

:36:56. > :37:00.Donald Trump deserves to be certainly addressing people on

:37:01. > :37:03.platforms which are given to the likes of Mandela and Nobel Peace

:37:04. > :37:07.Prize winners, because that is not rigid values and not what we are

:37:08. > :37:11.about, and it flies in the face of everything we stand for. We have had

:37:12. > :37:15.visits from senior Chinese officials, we have given them

:37:16. > :37:18.invitations to Buckingham Palace, and people protested about human

:37:19. > :37:23.rights, and the visit went ahead. Is that not what we do? It is, we have

:37:24. > :37:28.conversations, but here is the person who is allegedly a leader of

:37:29. > :37:33.the free world. This isn't where we are in negotiations about human

:37:34. > :37:38.rights abuses, this is a man who is a misogynist, who is racist, who

:37:39. > :37:42.panders to a narrative, who is divisive. If we look at the chaos he

:37:43. > :37:46.has caused across his own assures right now, is this the kind of

:37:47. > :37:50.person we would honour with that prestige at Buckingham Palace? And I

:37:51. > :37:55.would agree with Alistair, absolutely not, certainly not at

:37:56. > :37:58.this time. UN agreement with Mr Byrd, then, that it is a

:37:59. > :38:02.postponement until something changes, until things die down a

:38:03. > :38:10.bit, or are you saying it shouldn't be a state visit. I can't imagine Mr

:38:11. > :38:16.Trump changing any of his rhetoric, if anything he has proved to be very

:38:17. > :38:24.dangerous for the world over in terms of what he has done since he

:38:25. > :38:29.has been elected and taken office. What you think of that? Do talk to

:38:30. > :38:32.Naz Shah. I would agree, the moment we seem to be in a situation where

:38:33. > :38:38.the president is governing as he campaigned. No one was sure whether

:38:39. > :38:42.he would. But also we know from the visit last week that an Nato,

:38:43. > :38:45.torture, when he understands the consequences of his words and what

:38:46. > :38:50.he would like to do and listens to other people, there might be a

:38:51. > :38:56.degree of change, hence my argument to say we need to know more about

:38:57. > :38:59.this presidency. There is no fixed weight yet for the state visit, but

:39:00. > :39:03.recognising those difficulties might be in the interests long-term of the

:39:04. > :39:08.United Kingdom and the United States. We have been placed in a

:39:09. > :39:11.dilemma by his recent actions, and that is tough on the Prime Minister

:39:12. > :39:15.bearing in mind how successful she was in Washington, but there are

:39:16. > :39:21.real difficulties with the president of he goes on governing as he has

:39:22. > :39:27.set out. Naz Shah, do you want to respond? Yes, I hear what Alistair

:39:28. > :39:33.is saying in terms of listening to people and the climb-down if you

:39:34. > :39:36.like an Nato. However, this is a person whose country is having mass

:39:37. > :39:41.protest and is not listening to the people of his very own country, and

:39:42. > :39:46.more people voted for Hillary Clinton, so it really smacks in the

:39:47. > :39:49.face of it is democracy in terms of what we stand for, our British

:39:50. > :39:53.values, to have him have a state visit at all. I think we need to

:39:54. > :39:57.listen to the people, the last count was over a million in literally

:39:58. > :40:01.minutes we are having thousands of people signing this petition, and we

:40:02. > :40:04.should be listening to those that elected us and that we represent in

:40:05. > :40:10.Great Britain and this country, and that stands for British values,

:40:11. > :40:14.democracy. We are a country that invites refugees. We have signed up

:40:15. > :40:19.to those. It is what we do as Great Britain. We do not close our doors

:40:20. > :40:23.to refugees and people fleeing war-torn countries. We do not help

:40:24. > :40:27.refugees because they are Muslims, we help them because it is the right

:40:28. > :40:31.thing to do, because they are fleeing persecution and they need

:40:32. > :40:35.refuge. That is the purpose of it. It is nothing to do with religion,

:40:36. > :40:42.and to bring in the Muslim ban is atrocious. Let's read a couple of

:40:43. > :40:44.messages. Where is the counter petition for millions of us who

:40:45. > :40:50.don't have a problem with Trump's visit? And Tina says, the keyword of

:40:51. > :40:54.all of this is temporary. It is a sensible temporary idea intended to

:40:55. > :40:57.tighten a vetting procedures and prevent dangerous extremists from

:40:58. > :41:02.entering the USA. Alistair Burt, Naz Shah, thank you very much. Could

:41:03. > :41:07.President Trump's policy increase the risk of terrorism on US soil?

:41:08. > :41:22.Iran's Foreign Minister -- Foreign Minister has described it as a gift.

:41:23. > :41:25.-- danger. I can see CIA operatives around the world face Parma, because

:41:26. > :41:28.all the work they have done to build up relationships with their

:41:29. > :41:32.counterparts, US soldiers fighting alongside Iraqis, doing all that

:41:33. > :41:37.work to build this good relationship, and what he has done

:41:38. > :41:41.with this one action is set that all aside and set them back many years,

:41:42. > :41:48.and I think they also need to be aware that terrorists are not coming

:41:49. > :41:51.over the mountains to attack us. Those people are most effective

:41:52. > :41:55.those that are already in our societies. That is a really good

:41:56. > :42:00.point, all the lethal acts of jihadists terrorist and United

:42:01. > :42:02.States have been carried out by either American citizens or legal

:42:03. > :42:09.residents, none have been the work of refugees. Yes, and what we have

:42:10. > :42:15.seen is the Internet being used as a conduit for Isis and Al-Qaeda's

:42:16. > :42:19.message. This plays into their rhetoric that says the US is the

:42:20. > :42:24.great enemy, we need to attack. You are already there, go and attack the

:42:25. > :42:28.US. So it does play into exactly what Isis and Al-Qaeda are saying

:42:29. > :42:33.already. But Mr Trump is delivering on a campaign promise. Absolutely,

:42:34. > :42:38.but he is using a blunt instrument which could have been used slightly

:42:39. > :42:41.better. It could have been better explained, phased in. It is

:42:42. > :42:45.something he has job on and I think it will do the US a great deal of

:42:46. > :42:47.harm. Thank you very much, Chris Phillips from the National

:42:48. > :42:52.counterterrorism Security unit. Thank you.

:42:53. > :42:54.From California we can speak to Amin Jarbasi

:42:55. > :43:00.Three weeks ago his wife and newborn daughter went to Iran

:43:01. > :43:03.so she could see her grandparents for the first time and he's

:43:04. > :43:05.incredibly anxious about whether they will be able to come

:43:06. > :43:16.Thank you very much for talking to our British audience. Tell us about

:43:17. > :43:22.your concerns. Basically, the problem is my wife and I are both

:43:23. > :43:30.legal permanent residents here, and my newborn daughter is a US citizen.

:43:31. > :43:34.The problem is it is not clear whether they can get into the

:43:35. > :43:38.country, and at the moment, I may not be able to leave the country,

:43:39. > :43:48.because I might be barred from re-entering. So they are in Iran

:43:49. > :43:53.right now. When are they due to come back? The original plan was that I

:43:54. > :43:59.would go to Iran to celebrate the Persian New Year in a months, and

:44:00. > :44:06.then we would all come back together. But you are not going to

:44:07. > :44:11.go now? Now it is on a limbo. I have no idea whether I can leave the

:44:12. > :44:16.country, they have no idea whether they could leave the country. We

:44:17. > :44:24.hear different stories, yesterday they said that the ban is applied to

:44:25. > :44:29.green card holders, today they are saying it may not, I don't know

:44:30. > :44:37.about tomorrow. It is confusing. Does your wife have a green card?

:44:38. > :44:43.Yes, we both have. So what they say today is if you have a green card

:44:44. > :44:48.you will OK. Apparently there is a waiver programme that I don't know

:44:49. > :44:54.what it means. This is what I heard, that you have to apply, and I don't

:44:55. > :44:58.know how to apply to that I also talked to lawyers, and they say it

:44:59. > :45:04.is not clear, the situation. When Mr Trump says this is not about banning

:45:05. > :45:12.Muslims, this is about protecting US citizens from extremists. What do

:45:13. > :45:19.you say? I don't know. I actually have no idea about this statement. I

:45:20. > :45:34.am personally very shocked about the whole procedure, about the whole

:45:35. > :45:42.executive order, I am a Yale professor, my wife is an artist,

:45:43. > :45:48.creating beautiful stained glasses. It is just unimaginable to me that

:45:49. > :45:58.we cannot leave here. How is your wife? She's OK, she is

:45:59. > :46:04.with family, and has strong family support in Iran. In terms of health

:46:05. > :46:09.and everything, she is fine. The plan was for her to come back in a

:46:10. > :46:14.month. The only issue now is whether that is going to happen or not. And

:46:15. > :46:21.just to be clear, our problem might be resolved soon. She might build a

:46:22. > :46:30.comeback, I might be able to go there. The situation is it is more

:46:31. > :46:35.than that. It is about all the people that are trapped in airports.

:46:36. > :46:43.There are children, mothers, who cannot join their families, it is

:46:44. > :46:45.just heartbreaking, unbelievable to me. Thank you very much for talking

:46:46. > :46:56.to us. Our guest was an academic Muslim as

:46:57. > :47:01.you heard. Some of you are saying we are

:47:02. > :47:04.promoting the petition. It is newsworthy that it reaches over one

:47:05. > :47:09.million signatures of the that's why we showed it. Lots of you supporting

:47:10. > :47:14.Donald Trump's policy. Gary says, "Over one million votes is not many

:47:15. > :47:20.in a country of over 60 million. Please allow for a petition to allow

:47:21. > :47:27.Donald Trump in to meet the Queen." Phil says, "OK for a state visit

:47:28. > :47:33.from China." Matt says, "I find it hypocritical to prevent Donald Trump

:47:34. > :47:39.from visiting our Queen. It was fine for Mr McGuinness, a terrorist." ."

:47:40. > :47:43.Another viewer, "White hate reporting slash propaganda." Sue,

:47:44. > :47:45."Trump is sending a clear message that he will be tough on Islamist

:47:46. > :47:48.terrorists." Meanwhile Donald Trump's immigration

:47:49. > :47:50.policy was heavily criticised by actors at last night's

:47:51. > :47:58.Screen Actors Guild in Hollywood. This story is about what happens

:47:59. > :48:04.when we put our differences aside. And we come together as a human

:48:05. > :48:09.race. We win. Love wins. Every time. We're in a really tricky time in our

:48:10. > :48:12.country and things are inexcusable and scary and need action. I'm

:48:13. > :48:18.grateful to be part of a group of people that cares and that wants to

:48:19. > :48:23.reflect things back to society. We will shelter freaks and outcasts,

:48:24. > :48:25.those who have no homes. We will get past the lies. We will hunt

:48:26. > :48:41.monsters. Steve Holden is here. After last

:48:42. > :48:47.year's Oscars when there was no black nominees, hidden figures won

:48:48. > :48:52.best ensemble, that's the true fore of three black women to helped with

:48:53. > :48:56.Nasa's space programme which won Best Film. There was so much

:48:57. > :49:02.anti-Trump sentiment. Lots of people getting on their feet. The man who

:49:03. > :49:07.perhaps got the crowd most geed up was David Harbour who stars in

:49:08. > :49:12.Staininger Things. They went up and he gave a barn storming acceptance

:49:13. > :49:17.speech. We repel bullies. We will shelter

:49:18. > :49:28.freaks and outcasts, those who have no homes. We will get past the lies.

:49:29. > :49:36.We will hunt monsters. And when we are lost amongst the hypocrisy, we

:49:37. > :49:43.will punch some people in the face when they seek to destroy... That

:49:44. > :49:47.clip has been shared a lot today. Special mention quickly to Clare

:49:48. > :49:52.Foy, the only British winner last night. She got Best TV Actress for

:49:53. > :49:56.playing Queen Elizabeth in the Crown.

:49:57. > :49:58.Now, Pope Francis has shocked the World by pledging his

:49:59. > :50:04.A pizza restaurant in Washington DC is the base

:50:05. > :50:07.WikiLeaks has confirmed Hillary Clinton sold weapons

:50:08. > :50:10.Shocker US President Donald Trump was born in Pakistan.

:50:11. > :50:21.A group of MPs is starting an inquiry into the "growing

:50:22. > :50:24.phenomenon of fake news", the deliberate spreading of false

:50:25. > :50:26.information on the internet, and whether sites should be forced

:50:27. > :50:30.The inquiry will examine the sources of fake news, how it is spread,

:50:31. > :50:33.its impact on democracy and concerns about the public being swayed

:50:34. > :50:39.He works for First Draft which investigates sources of fake

:50:40. > :50:52.news and he trains news organisations on how to spot it

:50:53. > :51:01.Do you? I spent the weekend talking to broadcasters.

:51:02. > :51:06.James set up the Rochdale Herald. He says what he does is branded as fake

:51:07. > :51:12.news. He doesn't want us to use his surname. Hi James. Good morning.

:51:13. > :51:15.Tell us about your site then. We started the Rochdale Herald six

:51:16. > :51:19.months ago because we really just wanted to have a bit of fun and to

:51:20. > :51:22.bring a bit of enjoyment to people's days because there are so many dark

:51:23. > :51:27.things happening in the world right now, but sometimes people just need

:51:28. > :51:32.a little bit of light relief. And an example, the governments of Canada

:51:33. > :51:38.and Mexico reached an agreement today to build 50-foot tall walls on

:51:39. > :51:44.the proviso the World Bank lends them the money for a lid! They have

:51:45. > :51:49.got aeroplanes and everything! So why are you or how do you know you

:51:50. > :51:55.are getting mixed up with being perceived as a site that produces

:51:56. > :51:59.fake news? You only have to read the comments on our Facebook page. When

:52:00. > :52:04.people actually believe that what we write is true. It appears that some

:52:05. > :52:07.people just don't have the ability to read past the headline or the

:52:08. > :52:12.first paragraph. Alistair, talk to James. That's a really good point.

:52:13. > :52:18.It is obvious half the time that it is satire? It is. And you know, the

:52:19. > :52:23.website Rochdale Herald you put it up on the Facebook and the web page

:52:24. > :52:27.that it is satire. On social media, the stories are presented in the

:52:28. > :52:30.same way. They appear to be exactly the same in people's news feeds as

:52:31. > :52:35.stories from the BBC or the Guardian. Why is it a problem?

:52:36. > :52:40.People can't actually see or don't notice the brand. They don't notice

:52:41. > :52:45.the news brand. In the Rochdale Herald when you say it is satire,

:52:46. > :52:48.appears in someone's news feeds, people aren't aware of where it is

:52:49. > :52:56.coming from and some stories like that are made up. So what? So what?

:52:57. > :53:03.Would it be fair to say the onion is why people see as being a satirical

:53:04. > :53:06.site. We are no different. I think satire is important. So what if

:53:07. > :53:09.people don't know what the source is or where it is coming from and

:53:10. > :53:16.whether it is clearly labelled satire or fake or legitimate? Who is

:53:17. > :53:20.to say what's legitimate? Into that vacuum when people aren't sure

:53:21. > :53:24.what's true and where it is coming from, certain people are stepping

:53:25. > :53:28.into that space, pushing that can complete falsehoods and trying to

:53:29. > :53:32.push their own agenda. We have seen that last year and we are starting

:53:33. > :53:36.to see it build in Germany and France, people who want to influence

:53:37. > :53:40.the electorate around to their way of thinking and exploiting people's

:53:41. > :53:44.trust in the media or distrust in that space and often you see some of

:53:45. > :53:49.those people saying this is the story the mainstream media don't you

:53:50. > :53:54.to know. And that hooks people in and gets a load of clicks. MPs are

:53:55. > :53:57.suggesting that there was some kind of tools on Google or Facebook or

:53:58. > :54:02.whatever it is, that will be able to work out what is fake and what's

:54:03. > :54:07.not? Yeah. Why would we trust them? I believe what they are talking

:54:08. > :54:12.about is reverse image search it checks one picture against the

:54:13. > :54:16.database of pictures on Google or on Tin Eye or on these services that do

:54:17. > :54:19.that and it will show you where that image appeared before. Sometimes

:54:20. > :54:22.there might be a picture with someone saying, "These are refugees

:54:23. > :54:29.coming to the UK. Do they look like children? ?" It will be from Greece

:54:30. > :54:35.or this is a protest that is happening in London, the BBC aren't

:54:36. > :54:39.covering it. You can do a reverse image and any picture that makes you

:54:40. > :54:43.go wow and gives thaw response should take a second about whether

:54:44. > :54:49.it is being manipulated by someone. How do you spot a fake news story?

:54:50. > :54:57.Give us advice? No quotes. If there are no quotes, no names, and check

:54:58. > :55:03.the about page of a web page. James, thank you from the Rochdale Herald.

:55:04. > :55:07.Check it out. It's a satirical site. It's funny.

:55:08. > :55:10.A free school in London is advertising for a "school

:55:11. > :55:11.detention director" who will be a "sergeant major in

:55:12. > :55:19.The job, with a salary of up to ?35,000 is described like this:

:55:20. > :55:23.Do you believe in children being obedient every time?

:55:24. > :55:33.Do you believe that allowing children to make excuses is unkind?

:55:34. > :55:35.This role is for someone who believes children need

:55:36. > :55:38.This role is for someone who believes tough love

:55:39. > :55:40.is what children need to become better people and grow

:55:41. > :55:50.The role is being advertised by the Michaela School in London

:55:51. > :55:53.which bills itself as the strictest school in Britain and is run

:55:54. > :55:58.It's thought to be the first school to advertise for a school

:55:59. > :56:06.Sadly the school wouldn't talk to us this morning.

:56:07. > :56:08.We can speak now to Sir Bruce Liddington.

:56:09. > :56:13.He's a former head teacher who was the schools commissioner

:56:14. > :56:21.What do you think of the role and secondly the wording of the advert?

:56:22. > :56:25.Well, as far as the role is concerned, this is not something I

:56:26. > :56:29.would ever have considered and I was the head of a big town centre boys

:56:30. > :56:36.secondary school with girls in the sixth form. That's not to say I

:56:37. > :56:39.didn't regard discipline, good behaviour, good conduct, good

:56:40. > :56:44.manners as well as high levels of aspiration as important. I did. But

:56:45. > :56:50.I, it is not a job that I would have considered advertising in this way.

:56:51. > :56:55.As far as the wording of it is concerned, my first reaction on the

:56:56. > :57:02.back of your previous item there was that it might actually be a spoof...

:57:03. > :57:07.Oh god. The school itself might be sending out a flyer to say look, we

:57:08. > :57:10.are really very strict. At the end of the day what it comes down to is

:57:11. > :57:14.whether they can take the parents with them. If the parents think that

:57:15. > :57:18.this role is good then it stands some chance of working. If the

:57:19. > :57:23.parents constantly resist it then it won't I am afraid.

:57:24. > :57:27.Well, that's interesting. It is an advert in the Times educational

:57:28. > :57:31.supplement and we contacted the school for a response, they declined

:57:32. > :57:35.to comment. They didn't say it wasn't true. Yes, bringing the

:57:36. > :57:38.parents with them, that's from a headteacher's point of view, that's

:57:39. > :57:45.crucial, briefly, Sir Bruce, isn't it? Well, yes. I mean the important

:57:46. > :57:48.thing about pupil behaviour and they are children, so they do misbehave

:57:49. > :57:53.sometimes, that's part of growing up. You have to accept that if

:57:54. > :57:58.you're in an authority role, but the vital thing is for them to learn

:57:59. > :58:01.from their mistakes so this That they become good adults. The

:58:02. > :58:04.majority of children want to be good adults and good parents. They want

:58:05. > :58:11.to be something sesful workers and you sometimes have to help them

:58:12. > :58:16.along the way. OK. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.

:58:17. > :58:19.On the programme tomorrow, we'll look at adoption and ask

:58:20. > :58:21.what's causing some adoptions to break down, forcing parents

:58:22. > :58:28.If you have experience, go Do get in touch with me on Twitter.

:58:29. > :58:32.We're back tomorrow at 9am. Have a good day.

:58:33. > :58:34.Oh, my goodness me, I don't like the look of that.

:58:35. > :58:36.The Robshaws are going back in time again...

:58:37. > :58:41.Feel a little bit overwhelmed at the moment.

:58:42. > :58:44.How people did this every day, I don't know.

:58:45. > :58:48.Calf's head. Leave the teeth out of it, won't you?

:58:49. > :58:53.It's incredible, the changes that have occurred in just 50 years.