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:00:00. > :00:09.Hello, it's Wednesday. It's 9am.

:00:10. > :00:14.I'm Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

:00:15. > :00:18.This evening MPs are likely to take the historic step of voting

:00:19. > :00:21.to trigger the process of the UK leaving the European Union.

:00:22. > :00:24.It's a big day for voters, it's a big day for politicians

:00:25. > :00:28.and we're going to hear more of this.

:00:29. > :00:42.England has saved herself and will I trust save Europe and the United

:00:43. > :00:48.Kingdom by her example. I personally shall be voting with my

:00:49. > :00:53.conscience, content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after

:00:54. > :00:57.as we leave the European Union, I hope the consciouses of other

:00:58. > :01:01.members of Parliament remain equally content.

:01:02. > :01:04.In an exclusive interview, we'll talk live to

:01:05. > :01:08.18-year-old Chelsea Cameron from Dundee who's written an open

:01:09. > :01:10.letter to her drug addicted mum and dad thanking them for not

:01:11. > :01:14.She says it made her ambitious, independent

:01:15. > :01:24.Her first interview, exclusively at 9.15am.

:01:25. > :01:27.E-mails telling you to do the right thing or snooping?

:01:28. > :01:29.Internet providers are contacting those of you who've downloaded

:01:30. > :01:50.Throughout the morning, we'll bring you the latest breaking

:01:51. > :01:57.We are going to talk about rail fares and how confusing the system

:01:58. > :02:01.is with some trips costing more if you buy different tickets.

:02:02. > :02:06.Operators are now planning an overhaul.

:02:07. > :02:12.Send us your examples of baffling fares.

:02:13. > :02:15.Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:02:16. > :02:20.MPs will vote tonight on legislation that would allow the Government

:02:21. > :02:25.to formally start the process of leaving the European Union.

:02:26. > :02:32.MPs debated the issue for nearly 12 hours yesterday and will have more

:02:33. > :02:33.discussions today. The Government is expected to win despite opposition

:02:34. > :02:38.from some. Our Political Correspondent

:02:39. > :02:41.Chris Mason reports. Heading home into the winter's night

:02:42. > :02:44.after nearly 12 hours of debate. Midnight in Westminster

:02:45. > :02:46.with another afternoon This is a debate

:02:47. > :02:54.with fire and passion. In my opinion, the people

:02:55. > :03:05.have decided, and I'm That eight second speech best sums

:03:06. > :03:15.up the mood of MPs however This is a process that

:03:16. > :03:22.needs to be triggered. We need to do it soon and the public

:03:23. > :03:26.of this country expect us to do it. The new government have acted

:03:27. > :03:32.as though the vote in the referendum gives them carte blanche to engineer

:03:33. > :03:35.the most extreme kind of arrangements for

:03:36. > :03:41.the UK leaving the EU. She is one of a few dozen

:03:42. > :03:44.Labour MPs who could vote against starting Brexit,

:03:45. > :03:49.but ministers are confident they'll win easily because many MPs

:03:50. > :03:52.who passionately campaigned for Remain will support

:03:53. > :03:54.starting the Brexit process, even if they're irritated

:03:55. > :04:00.by the claims of some. Please don't mock our intelligence

:04:01. > :04:03.by pretending we're going to sign a suite of trade deals on day one

:04:04. > :04:08.of leaving the European Union. And MPs return here this morning

:04:09. > :04:21.to pick up where they left off. We will talk to various MPs

:04:22. > :04:25.throughout the programme about that. Joanna is in the BBC

:04:26. > :04:27.Newsroom with a summary Train operators have promised

:04:28. > :04:33.to overhaul what they say Trials aimed at cutting red tape,

:04:34. > :04:37.and making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest fares,

:04:38. > :04:39.will begin in May. Our business correspondent

:04:40. > :04:40.Ben Thompson reports. Buying train tickets is notoriously

:04:41. > :04:51.complicated and confusing for many and so now the government

:04:52. > :04:53.is to trial a new, simpler system, one that should make it easier

:04:54. > :04:58.to find the cheapest fares. The new trial will begin in May this

:04:59. > :05:01.year on trains between London, It will reduce the number

:05:02. > :05:06.of confusing ticket options. The rail delivery group,

:05:07. > :05:10.which represents train operators, says the changes will mean

:05:11. > :05:13.passengers are offered the best price every time regardless

:05:14. > :05:15.of whether they book It's quite complicated to find

:05:16. > :05:21.which place to buy them A wide range from ?10 to ?76

:05:22. > :05:30.for the journey I do. It is quite confusing to know

:05:31. > :05:32.which ones to take, especially like, The trial should put an end

:05:33. > :05:39.to what's known as split ticketing, where passengers divide

:05:40. > :05:41.their journey into single shorter Out of date options and discounts

:05:42. > :05:45.will also be removed The clearer ticket vending

:05:46. > :05:56.machines will never replace trained helpful members of staff,

:05:57. > :05:59.so we need to make sure that train companies ensure that ticket offices

:06:00. > :06:01.remain open and that there are staff there who can talk you through

:06:02. > :06:04.the different options, The train companies themselves

:06:05. > :06:09.have welcomed the trial, blaming government rules built up

:06:10. > :06:12.over decades for stopping them But critics say the trial doesn't go

:06:13. > :06:21.far enough after above inflation price rises came into force

:06:22. > :06:23.in January alongside strikes and delays affecting many parts

:06:24. > :06:32.of the rail network. Let's speak to Alexandra MacKenzie

:06:33. > :06:35.who is at King's Cross What are people there

:06:36. > :06:44.making of the changes? There seems to be something going

:06:45. > :06:49.on. We have been hearing over the tannoy that the station is being

:06:50. > :06:53.evacuated. So all of the exits that I can see around me, there are a lot

:06:54. > :06:56.of people leaving the station, but at this stage we don't quite know

:06:57. > :07:00.what's happening. It has just been announced that people are to leave

:07:01. > :07:05.the station, but we were here earlier to speak to passengers about

:07:06. > :07:09.the new ticketing scheme. The ticketing scheme that we have at the

:07:10. > :07:14.moment, it has been with us for the last 30 years and politicians and

:07:15. > :07:18.rail companies have said it is out dated and it is too complicated and

:07:19. > :07:21.it is time for a change so that's what we were asking passengers about

:07:22. > :07:26.here earlier. Some of them said they were quite happy with things as they

:07:27. > :07:29.were. Other people said no, it is way too complicated. They seem to

:07:30. > :07:33.have trouble knowing whether they were getting the best value for

:07:34. > :07:39.money or whether they knew when a ticket was peak or off-peak. The one

:07:40. > :07:43.main thing that they did speak to me about was the cost of tickets.

:07:44. > :07:47.Almost everyone said that they just felt rail travel was too expensive,

:07:48. > :07:52.but they did speak to me about split ticketing which most people I spoke

:07:53. > :07:57.to had had at least tried and I'll give you an example. If we wanted to

:07:58. > :08:01.go on a journey today, a return journey, from Cornwall all the way

:08:02. > :08:07.up to Wick, on an advanced return ticket, we would pay around ?300.

:08:08. > :08:13.But someone who did their research and was doing split ticketing I

:08:14. > :08:19.understand could get six tickets between Cornwall and Wick and they

:08:20. > :08:25.could pay as little as ?80 for that. So a very big difference.

:08:26. > :08:29.That's just one example and we'd love people to get in touch with

:08:30. > :08:30.their examples as well. All the usual ways of getting in touch,

:08:31. > :08:32.thank you. Presdent Trump has nominated

:08:33. > :08:34.a conservative judge, Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme

:08:35. > :08:36.Court. If confirmed, the 49-year-old

:08:37. > :08:39.will become the youngest person to fill the position in a quarter

:08:40. > :08:41.of a century. Some Democrats say they'll

:08:42. > :08:44.oppose him because of his attitudes Our Washington Correspondent,

:08:45. > :08:48.David Willis has more. In the hands of this man,

:08:49. > :08:53.even an appointment to the top court in the land has the feel

:08:54. > :08:56.of a reality TV show. Today, I'm keeping another promise

:08:57. > :08:58.to the American people Donald Trump had brought the top two

:08:59. > :09:08.contenders for the job to Washington in order to keep his prime-time TV

:09:09. > :09:11.audience guessing, only to tell this federal

:09:12. > :09:15.appeals court judge, Judge Gorsuch has outstanding legal

:09:16. > :09:21.skills, a brilliant mind, tremendous discipline,

:09:22. > :09:26.and has earned bipartisan support. At 49, Neil Gorcuch is the youngest

:09:27. > :09:29.nominee to the supreme court in more Standing here in a house

:09:30. > :09:39.of history, and acutely aware of my own imperfections,

:09:40. > :09:41.I pledge that if I am confirmed I will do all my powers permit

:09:42. > :09:44.to be a faithful servant of the constitutional laws

:09:45. > :09:50.of this great country. Judge Gorsuch's conservative

:09:51. > :09:54.ideology is closely aligned to that of the man he has been nominated

:09:55. > :09:57.to replace, Justice Antonin Scalia, The choice of Neil Gorsuch is a gift

:09:58. > :10:04.to those who voted for Donald Trump. His conservative views could tip

:10:05. > :10:06.the balance of the Supreme Court on such key issues as abortion,

:10:07. > :10:08.voting rights, and The system for recovering cash

:10:09. > :10:20.from overseas patients who use the NHS is "chaotic" and ministers

:10:21. > :10:25.should "get a grip" on the issue, The Public Accounts Committee

:10:26. > :10:30.is calling for more to be done by the NHS to identify and charge

:10:31. > :10:32.people from overseas. The Department of Health says

:10:33. > :10:35.the amount recovered from foreign countries has more than trebled

:10:36. > :10:45.in three years. Police say a 16-year-old Vietnamese

:10:46. > :10:47.boy has been found hiding in bushes in Dumbarton,

:10:48. > :10:50.after escaping from traffickers. The teenager is thought to have been

:10:51. > :10:52.trafficked to Russia before He was found by a member

:10:53. > :10:56.of the public two weeks ago. Police are appealing

:10:57. > :10:57.for information. That's a summary of

:10:58. > :11:07.the latest BBC News. Thank you very much. Let me read

:11:08. > :11:13.some messages from you. Thank you. On Brexit Matt on Facebook says

:11:14. > :11:16."Today we get to see how many MPs from all parties put the interests

:11:17. > :11:21.of the European Union above the British people's decision to leave

:11:22. > :11:25.the European Union." And this tweet from James who is very much looking

:11:26. > :11:31.forward to hearing Chelsea Cameron in her first broadcast interview in

:11:32. > :11:36.about five minutes time. Chelsea has written an open letter to her drug

:11:37. > :11:40.addicted parents to thank them for effectively not being there for her

:11:41. > :11:42.as she was growing up. James said as someone struggling with his

:11:43. > :11:47.addiction this will be fascinating listening. Clearly, an old head on

:11:48. > :11:49.such young shoulders. We'll talk live to Chelsea in five or six

:11:50. > :11:51.minutes time. Do get in touch with us

:11:52. > :11:54.throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:11:55. > :12:09.and If you text, you will be charged Ryan Mason on the road to recovery.

:12:10. > :12:14.He fractured his skull and it looked awful. What has he been saying?

:12:15. > :12:17.We're glad there is a happy ending. Ryan Mason was released from

:12:18. > :12:22.hospital on Monday, but he released a statement for the first time to

:12:23. > :12:26.say that he's lucky to be alive. That he would like to thank everyone

:12:27. > :12:31.for their support. This was nine days ago at Stamford in a game

:12:32. > :12:38.between Hull and Chelsea and Ryan Mason is only 25 years old. It was a

:12:39. > :12:43.collision with Gary Cahill, a clattering of heads and Ryan Mason

:12:44. > :12:48.was stretchered off to applause at Stamford Bridge, but he then spent a

:12:49. > :12:52.week in St Mary's Hospital in London and that led to quite a few worrying

:12:53. > :12:56.moments. There were reports on the night that it might even be life

:12:57. > :13:00.threatening. Thank goodness that's not the case. We don't know if Ryan

:13:01. > :13:03.Mason will play football again, that's not been confirmed. His

:13:04. > :13:06.manager said that he's confident he will make that full recovery to

:13:07. > :13:12.actually go on and resume his career. Such an important player for

:13:13. > :13:15.Hull as well. He's 25 years old, an England international and he is

:13:16. > :13:20.their record club signing and Hull bottom of the praOk, they've sold

:13:21. > :13:24.Jake Livermore, I would be amazed if he plays football this season. There

:13:25. > :13:30.has been no official confirmation or anything to contradict that. He will

:13:31. > :13:32.play, but the main thing, Victoria, he's out of hospital and he made

:13:33. > :13:40.this statement saying that he's lucky to be alive and he's all good.

:13:41. > :13:44.A group of MPs who make up the sport committee want to talk to Lord Coe

:13:45. > :13:48.again about the Russian doping scandal. Remind us why and what are

:13:49. > :13:52.the odds on him turning up again? Well, yeah, they've asked Lord Coe

:13:53. > :13:55.to come in and speak to the Select Committee again. This is Damien

:13:56. > :14:00.Collins the chairman of the Select Committee and Lord Coe, you will

:14:01. > :14:05.remember he gave his evidence, he came and spoke to Damien Collins in

:14:06. > :14:08.December 2015. This was all surrounding this Russian corruption

:14:09. > :14:13.in athletics and at the Time Lord co said he wasn't aware of any

:14:14. > :14:20.corruption in the sport. Well, since then, there has been evidence that

:14:21. > :14:25.surfaced in a Panorama documentary last June where a former athlete,

:14:26. > :14:31.David Bedford said that he sent this e-mail to Lord Coe, before December

:14:32. > :14:37.2015, this is back this 2014, saying that he had this evidence about an

:14:38. > :14:40.athlete called Lilia, a Russian athlete and he had sent the

:14:41. > :14:43.attachments. Well, Lord Coe is saying he didn't open the attachment

:14:44. > :14:49.because he was on holiday abroad and he forwarded the e-mail on. So it is

:14:50. > :14:52.a kind of he said, she said. The Select Committee just want to know

:14:53. > :14:57.who said what? And they want it explaining. They want to know how

:14:58. > :15:02.much he knew before he had received this e-mail and of course, because

:15:03. > :15:07.he told the Parliamentary Select Committee that he wasn't aware of

:15:08. > :15:10.specific allegations. He is still saying there is no discrepancy

:15:11. > :15:14.between what he said then and what they know now, but Damien Collins

:15:15. > :15:18.says he has to come in and clear it up and saying that athletics is in a

:15:19. > :15:21.precarious place at the moment and it needs its leader, the President

:15:22. > :15:30.of IAAF Lord Coe, to come in and clear this up. Thank you very much.

:15:31. > :15:33.Now most of us have memories of moments when we are growing up,

:15:34. > :15:36.those firsts like getting exam results, prize giving,

:15:37. > :15:38.trips away and having your family around to be there.

:15:39. > :15:46.She is going to read us an open letter that she

:15:47. > :15:49.wrote to her parents - both drug addicts - about how

:15:50. > :15:55.But instead of being angry, she is grateful to them as she says

:15:56. > :15:57.it has made her independent, ambitious and determined

:15:58. > :16:08.This week her dad was sent to prison for burglary.

:16:09. > :16:10.Take a few minutes to listen to Chelsea,

:16:11. > :16:25.I know you are comfortable about that, but first of all explain a

:16:26. > :16:29.little to our audience about your life growing up. I had a relatively

:16:30. > :16:34.normal childhood growing up, that I was aware of my parents taking drugs

:16:35. > :16:39.and some criminal behaviour they had been involved in. My parents

:16:40. > :16:43.definitely loved me and still do, and care about me, but maybe not

:16:44. > :16:49.enough to sacrifice drugs and to prioritise us in their lives. But

:16:50. > :16:53.really I'm not here to go into detail about the things that

:16:54. > :16:57.happened negatively in their lives, I want to be a positive role model

:16:58. > :17:04.to other young people who are going through a similar situation. What

:17:05. > :17:09.kind of drugs were they using? I am aware they were taking Valium,

:17:10. > :17:15.possibly heroin, and other drugs they picked up on the street. What

:17:16. > :17:20.do you recall was unusual compared to most other parents about their

:17:21. > :17:25.behaviour? I think children are aware of a lot more than adults

:17:26. > :17:32.probably think they are sometimes they were completely incoherent or

:17:33. > :17:36.just not able to focus on what you were saying, slurring their words

:17:37. > :17:41.and things like that which was traumatic as a child. Sometimes you

:17:42. > :17:47.would see them fighting in the street and dealers hammering on the

:17:48. > :17:51.door? I saw lots of situations where my parents were in the street

:17:52. > :17:56.fighting with others or just other situations where maybe violence was

:17:57. > :18:03.brought to our home and things like that. What was that like for you? It

:18:04. > :18:07.was difficult as a child because naturally I love my parents and I

:18:08. > :18:11.still do and I know they care about me, but there were things I may be

:18:12. > :18:17.missed out on in my childhood that maybe my friends have opportunities

:18:18. > :18:23.to do. Just a little bit of normality that was missing in my

:18:24. > :18:26.childhood. I think you took your younger brother to his first day at

:18:27. > :18:32.school because your parents were not capable of doing that. Unfortunately

:18:33. > :18:36.my mother was not able to be there. My dad did come up with us and we

:18:37. > :18:44.took my little brother to school that day, but that was really a big

:18:45. > :18:48.step for me. I was young, maybe only 14, and my little brother went to

:18:49. > :18:53.his first day of school and I took him there and communicated with the

:18:54. > :18:58.staff and try to organise that for him, which may seem like a negative

:18:59. > :19:03.experience, but I am thankful for that opportunity. Me and my little

:19:04. > :19:09.brother have a great bond and that has developed the experiences we

:19:10. > :19:16.have had in our family. Would you please read our some of your letter.

:19:17. > :19:21.Yes, of course. Thank you. Thank you for teaching me that taking drugs

:19:22. > :19:25.ruins lives, breaks families apart and gives no want a quality of life

:19:26. > :19:28.when living. I will be eternally grateful for this lesson you have

:19:29. > :19:33.taught me which is a message that stuck by me to this day and always

:19:34. > :19:37.will. I have never and will never have a desire to take harmful

:19:38. > :19:42.substances through your example. Thank you for teaching me to be

:19:43. > :19:47.ambitious. Your example showed me that no ambition for education or

:19:48. > :19:52.success is harmful and leads to a lot of self worth. Life is all about

:19:53. > :19:58.choices and I did not need to make the same ones you did. Remember that

:19:59. > :20:02.time we forced dad into watching Hannah Montana, but there is a lying

:20:03. > :20:07.in one of the songs that says, life is what you make it, so let's make

:20:08. > :20:12.it rock. Life has turned out for me what I have chosen to make it. You

:20:13. > :20:18.both can make your lives rock as you make your chances. Thank you for

:20:19. > :20:22.making me not easily embarrassed. You have both made choices,

:20:23. > :20:27.sometimes very public, allowing everyone I associate to know what

:20:28. > :20:31.you are like. That has given me the opportunity to speak freely and

:20:32. > :20:39.openly about how I am and how my life has been growing up. In school

:20:40. > :20:45.I try to have an all clear ego that an altar ego. I made myself

:20:46. > :20:50.something that I was not associating with the harsh truth of our lives.

:20:51. > :20:55.The thing that kept me sane was thinking people did not know the

:20:56. > :20:59.truth. They probably did, but I brainwash myself into thinking that

:21:00. > :21:02.they did not. Thank you for teaching me that life is unfair, people

:21:03. > :21:08.disappoint you and there is nothing you can do about that. Thank you for

:21:09. > :21:13.not being there to wave goodbye as I jetted off to Uganda on a trip of a

:21:14. > :21:17.lifetime. Thank you for not being there when I got my first exam

:21:18. > :21:22.results to say well done. Thank you for not being there when I got the

:21:23. > :21:28.position of head girl. Thank you for not being there when I stood in

:21:29. > :21:32.front of hundreds of people to speak at my prizegiving. You have given me

:21:33. > :21:36.the greatest lesson of how to be independent. You have both allowed

:21:37. > :21:41.me to be a more patient and tolerant person that I could have ever

:21:42. > :21:46.imagined. Dad, I see you off, but I hope you have a greater insight into

:21:47. > :21:52.the type of person I am. Mum, I hope you are well and I hope you are a

:21:53. > :21:57.bit better now. I hope you know I am trying to be a good person. I hope

:21:58. > :22:02.one day you will wake up and realise there is so much more that the world

:22:03. > :22:07.has to offer you and when that day comes, please come to find me so we

:22:08. > :22:11.can enjoy live together. I will show you some nice restaurants and if you

:22:12. > :22:15.are lucky I will take you to Germany one day. Until then I will dream of

:22:16. > :22:28.what my life might be like with parents to enjoy it with. Wow, that

:22:29. > :22:33.is really powerful and very moving. What is upsetting is to say life is

:22:34. > :22:36.not sunshine and rainbows. We know that, but you know it at such a

:22:37. > :22:43.young age and that makes me very sad. There are lots of negative

:22:44. > :22:47.things that come into people's lives possibly not through their own

:22:48. > :22:53.circumstances. What I wanted to do was to allow people to see that they

:22:54. > :22:57.could choose positivity, no matter what circumstances they were in, and

:22:58. > :23:02.have joined in their life no matter what circumstances are. Society

:23:03. > :23:06.tells you if you parents live a certain way, or if you live a

:23:07. > :23:11.certain lifestyle, it is destined that you live like that. My hope is

:23:12. > :23:16.to show other young people that they can choose exactly what they want

:23:17. > :23:20.their life to be. They can choose joy, happiness and positivity, no

:23:21. > :23:28.matter what the circumstances. What kind of a response you have had? I

:23:29. > :23:32.have had incredible responses. So many people in similar situations

:23:33. > :23:37.have said, this has helped me, it has made me know that it is OK to

:23:38. > :23:42.talk about how you feel, not to bottle it up and to know they do not

:23:43. > :23:46.have to fall into that pathway. Not just with drugs, a lot of people

:23:47. > :23:50.have contacted me with any negative situation they have had in their

:23:51. > :23:55.lives and it has made them realise that you can choose to be positive.

:23:56. > :23:58.Because a negative has happened in your life, that does not determine

:23:59. > :24:05.your attitude, you can be positive and continue to be happy. Is it

:24:06. > :24:10.young people, kids, middle aged people contacting you? I have had a

:24:11. > :24:15.lot of different people, a lot of young people and older people who

:24:16. > :24:21.may be did not know my circumstances before or who had known my parents.

:24:22. > :24:26.They had reached out to support me and allowed me to know that I have

:24:27. > :24:30.helped someone by showing them the letter as well, which was my desire.

:24:31. > :24:34.You talk about the period of time when you were younger when you felt

:24:35. > :24:40.you had to hide what was going on at home. As a young person you are very

:24:41. > :24:46.easily embarrassed and you want to try and be this person that seems

:24:47. > :24:48.perfect and your life is perfect and everything flows nicely and no one

:24:49. > :24:55.needs to know anything negative about your life. I kept that persona

:24:56. > :25:00.for a long time and I bottled it up. I felt like I wanted to shed the

:25:01. > :25:04.letter because it was time for me to speak about how I feel and to tell

:25:05. > :25:09.others that it is time for them to speak about how they feel as well.

:25:10. > :25:13.Although I do not know them, I can support them and they can come to me

:25:14. > :25:19.for any advice as a friend and supporter. At 14, in the middle of

:25:20. > :25:24.high school, you stopped living with your parents. Where did you go? I

:25:25. > :25:29.lived with various family members and friends. That was on the

:25:30. > :25:37.recommendation of social workers? Yes. What did they say? They said my

:25:38. > :25:41.dad was not able to care for us any more. He was in a bad place with his

:25:42. > :25:48.difficulties and it was the best for my brother and I to move away from

:25:49. > :25:52.that. I have had continuous support from family and friends who have

:25:53. > :25:57.taken me in and show me a level of care that was not necessary for them

:25:58. > :26:00.to give me, that my parents would have given me, but they have

:26:01. > :26:10.continued to support me and I am extremely grateful for it. This is

:26:11. > :26:16.not an angry letter. You are not publicly shaming your parents. You

:26:17. > :26:22.mean it. This is thank you. I am absolutely not here to criticise my

:26:23. > :26:27.parents or to put shame upon them. As I have said, I want other young

:26:28. > :26:32.people to know that they are not alone. There are other people facing

:26:33. > :26:37.these difficulties and to try and have a positive spin on things. We

:26:38. > :26:42.live in a society that is full of negativity and chaos and lots of

:26:43. > :26:46.trouble going on. When we get to a place in our lives where we can

:26:47. > :26:51.choose to be positive and happy, it is the best thing for our own

:26:52. > :26:58.well-being. How do you think you have achieved exam success, becoming

:26:59. > :27:04.head girl? The trip to Uganda was so important to you, how have you done

:27:05. > :27:08.it? I have had so much support from other friends, teachers and family

:27:09. > :27:14.members that have really allowed me to choose to go down that path.

:27:15. > :27:19.Opportunities are coming my way, the opportunity to be the head girl, to

:27:20. > :27:24.try hard at school, to have the opportunity to go to Uganda, and I

:27:25. > :27:30.grabbed those opportunities with both hands and I did things that

:27:31. > :27:34.will enrich my life hopefully. Your mum, who you have not spoken to for

:27:35. > :27:42.over a year, has given a quote to the Daily Mail today. Is it OK if I

:27:43. > :27:47.read it? Yes, that is fine. No child should go through what Chelsea did

:27:48. > :27:51.and live that kind of life. I am ashamed and upset that my behaviour

:27:52. > :27:58.and I am so sorry. I am so proud of her. It is nice to hear that

:27:59. > :28:03.response from my mum and I will continue to love and support my

:28:04. > :28:07.parents. They have not made the best choices, but everyone makes bad

:28:08. > :28:12.choices and I want them to know that I am there for them if they want to

:28:13. > :28:16.reach out to me. I will be involved in their lives as much as I can.

:28:17. > :28:22.What was your reaction when your dad was jailed this week? I was not

:28:23. > :28:26.surprised, but we have a great relationship, I get on with him very

:28:27. > :28:31.well and I will continue to support him my whole life for anything that

:28:32. > :28:37.he needs. These are messages from our audience, may I read them? Yes.

:28:38. > :28:44.Chris says, what an inspirational young women. Ian says, what an

:28:45. > :28:48.amazing young woman Chelsea Cameron is after such a troubled childhood.

:28:49. > :28:55.Good luck to her in her future. A lovely lady. Chuck says, Chelsea is

:28:56. > :28:58.an exceptional lady. Bolivia, what an inspirational and incredible

:28:59. > :29:06.girl, and she has chosen the life she wants to live. Mehdi says, well

:29:07. > :29:10.done young lady. Clare says, wow, what an incredible young woman, she

:29:11. > :29:16.will go far. Ellie says this on Twitter, I am listening now, what an

:29:17. > :29:24.inspiration. Thank you very much. It is true. Thank you. Do you forgive

:29:25. > :29:30.your parents? Absolutely, absolutely. No matter the choices

:29:31. > :29:35.they make, I continue to forgive them. I am thankful for the

:29:36. > :29:39.opportunities they have given me to become an independent person, to

:29:40. > :29:43.choose good pathways. Maybe if my childhood was different, I would not

:29:44. > :29:48.have had the opportunities I have now to be independent and ambitious

:29:49. > :29:53.and to have the drive I have. I will be eternally grateful for that. You

:29:54. > :29:58.are only a teenager, do you know what you want to do? Not entirely,

:29:59. > :30:04.see what opportunities come my way, I guess. I wish you lots of luck.

:30:05. > :30:10.Thank you for talking to us. Thank you. If you want to get in touch

:30:11. > :30:14.with Chelsea Cameron and us, you can send us an e-mail.

:30:15. > :30:19.This evening MPs will vote on the bill that would allow

:30:20. > :30:22.Theresa May to trigger Article 50 and formally notify the EU

:30:23. > :30:28.We'll be speaking to three MPs here in the studio.

:30:29. > :30:30.Some internet providers are warning customers their illegal

:30:31. > :30:38.It's a controversial move and some experts believe

:30:39. > :30:46.it has come too late to be an effective deterrent.

:30:47. > :30:51.We'll talk about that in the next hour as well.

:30:52. > :30:56.In the BBC Newsroom here's a summary of today's news.

:30:57. > :30:59.MPs will today vote on legislation that would allow the Government

:31:00. > :31:00.to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:31:01. > :31:04.It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:31:05. > :31:08.The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:31:09. > :31:14.Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:31:15. > :31:20.Trials aimed at making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest

:31:21. > :31:25.The first routes affected will include CrossCountry,

:31:26. > :31:28.Virgin Trains' east and west coast services and East Midlands.

:31:29. > :31:31.Donald Trump has nominated a conservative judge from Colorado,

:31:32. > :31:33.Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme Court.

:31:34. > :31:35.If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:31:36. > :31:39.to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:31:40. > :31:43.Some Democrats have said they will oppose the choice.

:31:44. > :31:46.David Cameron tried to have the editor of the Daily Mail

:31:47. > :31:48.sacked during last year's EU referendum campaign,

:31:49. > :31:53.The paper's owner said the former Prime Minister had asked him

:31:54. > :31:56.to "rein in" or dismiss Paul Dacre, who was strongly pro-Brexit.

:31:57. > :32:00.A spokesman for Mr Cameron said he "did not believe

:32:01. > :32:04.he could determine who edited the Daily Mail."

:32:05. > :32:10.The leader of France's National Front party, Marine Le Pen,

:32:11. > :32:13.could have her MEP's salary cut in half today as a punishment

:32:14. > :32:17.The European Parliament had given her until midnight to return

:32:18. > :32:20.?250,000 it says she mis-spent on the salary of a party official.

:32:21. > :32:22.Ms Le Pen says she won't give the money back.

:32:23. > :32:24.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:32:25. > :32:35.I cannot tell you how many messages we've got for Chelsea Cameron. Alice

:32:36. > :32:42.says, "I'm blown away by Chelsea's mindset. What an inspiration."

:32:43. > :32:48.Maggie, "A an amazing young woman with great coping mechanisms. "

:32:49. > :32:52.Bernadette says, "OMG, what a wonderful and beautiful attitude to

:32:53. > :32:58.life." Stevie says, "You've got me welling up at my desk at work. James

:32:59. > :33:04.says, "Choice. The heart of it all. So moving a testimony. I'm looking

:33:05. > :33:09.in the mirror long and hard." Another viewer says, "Please hug

:33:10. > :33:15.this girl. She is amazing." Another viewer says, "Day time TV never

:33:16. > :33:20.makes me cry." ." Another viewer says, "Thank you, Chelsea, you

:33:21. > :33:26.reminded me at 57 to make good life choices." We did hug!

:33:27. > :33:27.Here's some sport now with Will Perry.

:33:28. > :33:32.Chelsea have extended their lead at the top of the Premier League

:33:33. > :33:39.David Luiz put them ahead at Anfield and although Liverpool equalised

:33:40. > :33:42.and Chelsea missed a penalty, but Antonio Conte's side

:33:43. > :33:45.are now nine points clear after their closest rivals stumbled.

:33:46. > :33:47.Hull City's Ryan Mason said he was "lucky to be alive"

:33:48. > :33:51.Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea

:33:52. > :33:57.He has thanked everyone for the "overwhelming support" given

:33:58. > :34:01.England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:34:02. > :34:09.Their last hope of a series win lies with the final T20

:34:10. > :34:11.in Bangalore after they lost the Test

:34:12. > :34:17.Lord Coe has been asked to meet MPs again after e-mails seem

:34:18. > :34:19.to confirm he did know the details of doping allegations

:34:20. > :34:21.in athletics, four months before they became public.

:34:22. > :34:23.Coe says he was not aware of the specifics.

:34:24. > :34:31.The Brexit debate will carry on in the Commons this afternoon,

:34:32. > :34:34.after a late-night session where MPs delivered passionately held views

:34:35. > :34:40.And tonight they will vote on the legislation giving

:34:41. > :34:42.the Government the go-ahead to trigger Article 50.

:34:43. > :34:45.The Bill is expected to pass this test in spite

:34:46. > :34:46.of opposition from the SNP, the Liberal Democrats

:34:47. > :34:52.Norman Smith joins us now outside Parliament.

:34:53. > :35:04.That's a question I put to one leading anti-Brexit campaigner and

:35:05. > :35:08.he said we are going to lose. The people opposed to Brexit are going

:35:09. > :35:12.to lose. If you want to boil it down to one basic reason, it is because

:35:13. > :35:15.most of them, the overwhelming majority of them accept the result

:35:16. > :35:19.of the referendum. They may not like it. In fact, they don't like it, but

:35:20. > :35:24.they accept the people have spoken. So, yes, there will be plenty of

:35:25. > :35:28.arguments still over the details, whether we're in the single market,

:35:29. > :35:34.what sort of immigration rules we have, whether MPs should have a vote

:35:35. > :35:38.before Mrs May agrees a deal, but on the fundamental question - Mrs May

:35:39. > :35:47.wins and MPs tonight will vote to begin the process of leaving the EU.

:35:48. > :35:55.So I am the breaks tiers are on a roll. Some were comparing it to

:35:56. > :36:02.Henry the fifth's speech to British troops to the Battle of Waterloo.

:36:03. > :36:06.Have a listen... The instruction of the British people have to be

:36:07. > :36:18.carried out. That's what we will do. If I may say once again those famous

:36:19. > :36:24.words of William Pitt England has saved herself and will I trust save

:36:25. > :36:29.Europe and the United Kingdom by her example.

:36:30. > :36:34.And all those many good things that Europe, we are told, has given us,

:36:35. > :36:39.the great news is, we can decide to keep them for ourselves! All those

:36:40. > :36:43.good laws we will keep. All those employment protections, we will

:36:44. > :36:49.agree to continue. And the day that we leave the European Union, it will

:36:50. > :36:53.be a great day. Stirring stuff. I don't think I have seen John Redwood

:36:54. > :36:59.getting so animated, but contrast that with Ken Clarke, the only Tory

:37:00. > :37:03.who is going to vote against triggering this Bill beginning our

:37:04. > :37:07.departure from the EU. Now he was actually applauded at the end by

:37:08. > :37:15.some Opposition MPs, but have a look at the two Tory sitting behind him

:37:16. > :37:20.sort of indifference. I personally shall be voting with my conscience

:37:21. > :37:24.content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after as we leave

:37:25. > :37:31.the European Union, I hope the consciences of other members of

:37:32. > :37:34.Parliament remain equally content. So Mr Clarke the only Conservative

:37:35. > :37:41.who is going to vote against this. What about the Labour Party? Well,

:37:42. > :37:45.Vic, you'd like to say it is a car crash, but it is worse than a car

:37:46. > :37:49.crash. You'd have to look away. The blunt truth is Labour are split from

:37:50. > :37:54.top to bottom on the issue of Europe from the Shadow Cabinet, through the

:37:55. > :37:57.Parliamentary party through the constituency parties and through

:37:58. > :38:01.ordinary Labour voters and it is not something you can blame Jeremy

:38:02. > :38:05.Corbyn for. It is much more profound and it is hard to see how the two

:38:06. > :38:08.sides can mesh together again and you know yesterday in the Commons

:38:09. > :38:13.there were Labour MPs sniping at each other. I've got a couple here.

:38:14. > :38:16.First, Kate Howey having a go at those of her colleagues who were

:38:17. > :38:20.sort of deriding people who voted for Brexit on the ground they didn't

:38:21. > :38:25.really understand the issues. Take a look. People didn't know what they

:38:26. > :38:28.were voting for. They voted to leave, but they didn't know what

:38:29. > :38:34.that meant. They didn't understand it. It really is patronising and it

:38:35. > :38:39.is part of the reason why so many people voted to leave, that they

:38:40. > :38:44.were fed-up being treated as if they knew nothing and that those in power

:38:45. > :38:47.knew more than them. It's not clear whether the Prime

:38:48. > :38:52.Minister frightened the European Commission by her threat to

:38:53. > :38:57.devastate our tax base and in consequence all our public services,

:38:58. > :39:01.but she successfully frightened me. I do not believe, not for one

:39:02. > :39:07.second, that that is what the British people thought they were

:39:08. > :39:12.voting for. So, for now, Mrs May's plans for Brexit are on course. The

:39:13. > :39:17.only other thing I would say Vic, this place often, you know people

:39:18. > :39:21.view it as dull and dreary. Actually yesterday, you know, it was at its

:39:22. > :39:25.best. We had really passionate convincing speeches on both sides

:39:26. > :39:28.and you know, if you want to take a look at the best of Parliament then

:39:29. > :39:31.I would suggest maybe having a look at the debates today because it's

:39:32. > :39:41.quite stirring stuff. Cheers, Norman.

:39:42. > :39:43.Earlier I spoke with Labour's Shadow Foreign Secretary

:39:44. > :39:45.and former Brexit Secretary Emily Thornberry.

:39:46. > :39:47.She told this programme the party's stance on Brexit

:39:48. > :39:51.We campaigned to remain in the European Union.

:39:52. > :39:56.But the referendum was a serious thing.

:39:57. > :39:58.We asked people to make up their minds what they wanted

:39:59. > :40:01.to do and they decided that we had to leave.

:40:02. > :40:03.And so, you know, we are internationalists and we like Europe

:40:04. > :40:05.but we are Democrats, more than anything else.

:40:06. > :40:08.And so we have our instructions from the British public

:40:09. > :40:11.and we're going to leave the European Union but,

:40:12. > :40:13.you know, not necessarily the way the Tories want to.

:40:14. > :40:16.The Tories have got a whole bunch of contradictory ideas

:40:17. > :40:19.about what it is that they see as our future in Europe, the worst

:40:20. > :40:22.one being that they will go for low taxes, deregulation,

:40:23. > :40:25.getting rid of people's rights, getting rid of environmental

:40:26. > :40:32.So we will be fighting them all the way in order to make sure

:40:33. > :40:35.that we get the sort of economy at the end of this that maximises

:40:36. > :40:40.Do you understand your Labour colleagues who say, look,

:40:41. > :40:44.my constituency voted to remain in the European Union, I am

:40:45. > :40:47.going to do what my constituency, what my voters want to do,

:40:48. > :40:49.so I'm going to vote against triggering Article 50 today?

:40:50. > :40:56.Listen, 75% of my constituents voted to remain in the European Union.

:40:57. > :41:05.As a national party you don't pick one side or another,

:41:06. > :41:07.you speak on behalf of the whole nation.

:41:08. > :41:09.And kind of weirdly, like, the contradiction

:41:10. > :41:11.within the Labour Party, the fact that we have people

:41:12. > :41:14.who want to stay and we have people who want to go actually,

:41:15. > :41:19.And it's up to us to step up and say OK, we're leaving but let's make

:41:20. > :41:22.sure that we get the best possible deal because we don't trust

:41:23. > :41:27.What will happen to those Labour MPs who vote against the majority,

:41:28. > :41:30.the will of the people, and vote against their boss, Jeremy Corbyn?

:41:31. > :41:34.Well, I think those who are in front bench positions will have to stand

:41:35. > :41:36.down because the Labour Party, we have had many, many discussions.

:41:37. > :41:38.We've come to this decision together.

:41:39. > :41:40.Are you expecting to lose more frontbenchers then?

:41:41. > :41:43.Well, who knows? I'm not making any predictions.

:41:44. > :41:49.I mean, I've had lots of conversations, I do understand,

:41:50. > :41:51.I completely respect where people are coming from and I'm sure

:41:52. > :41:57.But it is in our country's interest that the opposition does not

:41:58. > :42:01.turn its back on democracy, that we go ahead with

:42:02. > :42:07.But we've got to help the Government, to make sure we get

:42:08. > :42:11.What do you say to those who say it's a bit rich Jeremy Corbyn

:42:12. > :42:14.with this three line whip because how many times did he vote

:42:15. > :42:19.He's well aware of that. He's well aware of that.

:42:20. > :42:22.He's aware of it, what does he say? Is he not a hypocrite?

:42:23. > :42:24.He's not a hypocrite, he's now leading a national party

:42:25. > :42:27.and we have a national position that we've come to collectively

:42:28. > :42:31.and that's the decision and we're going ahead with it.

:42:32. > :42:34.Let us talk now to conservative MP Kwasi Kwarteng who voted to leave

:42:35. > :42:37.the EU and who will vote for triggering Article 50 tonight,

:42:38. > :42:40.and Labour MP Heidi Alexander who voted to remain in the EU and,

:42:41. > :42:42.despite orders from Jeremy Corbyn, will rebel and vote

:42:43. > :42:56.Why? Well, I actually think that we have to take this decision in what

:42:57. > :42:59.each individual believes to be the national economic interest. Your

:43:00. > :43:04.boss doesn't think that though? What Jeremy Corbyn thinks, what the

:43:05. > :43:08.whipping arrangements for me is not as important as what my conscience

:43:09. > :43:12.tells me and what I think is best for the country. Every MP... What's

:43:13. > :43:19.going to happen to you after you have rebelled? I am a backbench MP.

:43:20. > :43:26.I need to look at what the big key issues are. I don't think that when

:43:27. > :43:29.people voted last year to leave the European Union that they were voting

:43:30. > :43:34.on the issue of coming out of the single market. Are you expecting a

:43:35. > :43:39.lot of vitriol online after your vote tonight or not? I haven't had

:43:40. > :43:44.much so far to be honest. I experienced a lot of vitriol last

:43:45. > :43:47.summer when I decided to resign from the Shadow Cabinet as the Shadow

:43:48. > :43:50.Health Secretary. What I'm doing is what I believe to be in the national

:43:51. > :43:55.economic interest and I think that there is a fundamental question

:43:56. > :44:00.about democracy here as well, democracy didn't start or end on

:44:01. > :44:05.23rd June. If I can just finish this point. Sorry, go on. It is

:44:06. > :44:09.important. In the Conservative manifesto, page 72 reads that a

:44:10. > :44:15.Conservative Government would safeguard British interests in the

:44:16. > :44:19.single market. The word, "Single market" Weren't on the ballot paper

:44:20. > :44:23.in the referendum on 23rd June and then we have a Prime Minister where

:44:24. > :44:28.No vote has been cast about her becoming the leader of the Tory

:44:29. > :44:33.Party, determining what Brexit looks like and I actually think that more

:44:34. > :44:37.people than just the Prime Minister, should be involved in having a say

:44:38. > :44:42.about what that looks like. Well, she had a big statement there and I

:44:43. > :44:45.know lots of things that she said and I disagree. Firstly, you

:44:46. > :44:48.accepted the referendum. You voted for a referendum as I understand.

:44:49. > :44:52.What's the point in having a referendum if you ignore the result?

:44:53. > :44:58.It is not some sort of advisory committee. It's 33 million people

:44:59. > :45:01.casting a vote. There was a clear decisive result and all this

:45:02. > :45:05.triggering of Arle 50 is implementing the result of that

:45:06. > :45:09.vote. Now, I understand in your constituency, the majority of people

:45:10. > :45:13.voted to remain. So I do understand that, but I think once you've

:45:14. > :45:16.committed to a referendum, you as a politician, you should honour the

:45:17. > :45:18.result. I mean, Ken Clarke is in a very good position because he didn't

:45:19. > :45:25.want a referendum and he voted against it. You voted for it.

:45:26. > :45:31.There were circumstances under which I could have voted to trigger

:45:32. > :45:35.Article 50, but Theresa May took that option off the table for me

:45:36. > :45:42.when she made that speech in Lancaster House. What if no good

:45:43. > :45:47.deal is reached? We are out the single market. I do not understand

:45:48. > :45:52.what it means to leave the EU and be in the single market. People talk

:45:53. > :45:57.the Norwegian arrangement, in that instance you do not have any control

:45:58. > :46:03.over freedom of movement. You have to accept it. We are subjected to

:46:04. > :46:08.World Trade Organisation tariffs, import licences, customs checks, a

:46:09. > :46:16.whole load of bureaucracy, not to mention the tariffs. The tariffs are

:46:17. > :46:20.quite low. They are not free. Most of it will be eliminated through

:46:21. > :46:25.currency fluctuations. You make it sound so simple. It is simple,

:46:26. > :46:31.people are trying to complicate things. David Cameron appeared on

:46:32. > :46:35.the Andrew Marr show when he was Prime Minister, do you remember?

:46:36. > :46:40.Yes, I do remember. A lot has happened. They were trying to

:46:41. > :46:45.frighten the wits out of people that if we voted to leave the EU, we

:46:46. > :46:50.would leave the single market and he said that on more than one occasion.

:46:51. > :46:53.People were not frightened by their threats and George Osborne's

:46:54. > :46:57.punishment budget and they were clear eyed and voted to leave.

:46:58. > :47:04.Colleagues of yours to do the airwaves... I don't remember. They

:47:05. > :47:08.did. Owen Paterson said only a madman would leave the single

:47:09. > :47:15.market. He was not head of the campaign. If you allow me to finish.

:47:16. > :47:19.We had Nigel Farage who the broadcasters could not get off the

:47:20. > :47:24.television. He was claiming that countries such as Norway do pretty

:47:25. > :47:28.well outside of the European Union. The debate that led up to the

:47:29. > :47:33.referendum was misleading and sometimes toxic. It inflamed the

:47:34. > :47:44.situation rather than informed people. I respect the result of the

:47:45. > :47:48.referendum, but I do not respect... You do not respect it enough to

:47:49. > :47:53.trigger article 15. You could argue that people have already voted to

:47:54. > :47:57.trigger Article 50. There were circumstances under which I could

:47:58. > :48:01.have voted to trigger Article 50. When Theresa May said she was

:48:02. > :48:06.pulling as out of the single market, when she said she was prioritising

:48:07. > :48:10.reducing immigration over our national economic interests, and

:48:11. > :48:13.when she threatened our closest geographical neighbours with in

:48:14. > :48:18.effect a trade war, I was ashamed of what the British Prime Minister said

:48:19. > :48:24.on that day. Do you think the public should have a say on the final deal?

:48:25. > :48:31.It depends what the final deal is? Why does it depend on that? There is

:48:32. > :48:36.not a deal, there is nothing to vote for. I think we are getting ahead of

:48:37. > :48:41.ourselves. I am not frightened of a second referendum. If Theresa May

:48:42. > :48:46.comes back with what she and you considered to be a good deal, that

:48:47. > :48:53.should be put to the people? It will be put to Parliament. What about the

:48:54. > :48:58.people? I am not sure, I do not think that is necessary. They should

:48:59. > :49:04.not have a say? Let's see what the deal is. It may well be that people

:49:05. > :49:09.want to decide. It is not up to me. Either way, I think we are leaving

:49:10. > :49:13.the EU, I think the people who want to stay in the EU are deluded if

:49:14. > :49:18.they think a second referendum will overturn the result of the first

:49:19. > :49:21.one. I was not suggesting that, but do you think the public should have

:49:22. > :49:26.a final say on the deal that Theresa May comes back with? At the very

:49:27. > :49:28.least members of Parliament should have a meaningful vote on that. What

:49:29. > :49:34.about the public? Yes, I do. On Monday we're holding

:49:35. > :49:37.a special programme looking We'll be looking at the problems

:49:38. > :49:41.it's facing and asking If you work in the NHS, a doctor,

:49:42. > :49:52.a nurse or a consultant, or you're a patient with recent

:49:53. > :49:55.experience, we'd love you to take It's in central London

:49:56. > :49:58.on Monday February 6th. to register your interest and one

:49:59. > :50:05.of our team will be in touch. If you're watching TV

:50:06. > :50:08.on your laptop, or a film in the cinema or buying music online

:50:09. > :50:10.you'll be familiar So if you choose to ignore that

:50:11. > :50:55.warning and continue to download your favourite TV series

:50:56. > :50:58.illegally or share music without paying for it,

:50:59. > :51:01.you can now expect to receive an e-mail detailing what you're

:51:02. > :51:06.up to, in the hope it It's part of the government's

:51:07. > :51:12.attempt to crack down on piracy. This scheme purely focuses on people

:51:13. > :51:14.sharing files from one The idea is that people

:51:15. > :51:20.will change their habits if they know their activity

:51:21. > :51:25.is being monitored by the big internet providers like BT,

:51:26. > :51:30.Virgin Media, TalkTalk and Sky. Let's talk now to John Carr,

:51:31. > :51:34.who is a member of the UK Council He advises the government

:51:35. > :51:36.about children's use And Marianne Grant,

:51:37. > :51:41.Motion Picture Association's They both feel these "educational

:51:42. > :51:46.e-mails" will crack-down on piracy. And Mark Chapman from

:51:47. > :52:01.The Pirate Party who does Why not? Because, firstly, how many

:52:02. > :52:05.people when you receive an e-mail from your Internet service provider

:52:06. > :52:10.does not go into your deleted folder? The idea that people do not

:52:11. > :52:14.know that what they are doing is illegal, that these educational

:52:15. > :52:19.e-mails are giving them information about alternative providers that

:52:20. > :52:22.they can use, legal streaming services, the idea that people do

:52:23. > :52:29.not know that they already exist is ludicrous. Why do people infringe

:52:30. > :52:35.copyright and download movies and films illegally? The idea that

:52:36. > :52:41.piracy is about theft is one of the more misjudged ideas. Internet

:52:42. > :52:52.piracy tends to be about access. Ofcom said that for every ?16 that

:52:53. > :52:59.normal users pay for use, digital download pirates pay ?26. They are

:53:00. > :53:03.positive to the creative arts. Why do people do it? Because they want

:53:04. > :53:08.to watch the latest film as soon as it has happened. If it is a US

:53:09. > :53:14.release of a new series and it is not out in the UK, they will do it?

:53:15. > :53:20.Explain to mark what that costs the film industry and how much this is

:53:21. > :53:24.an issue for the film industry. It is a huge issue for the film

:53:25. > :53:32.industry, not just music and games and other parts of the industry.

:53:33. > :53:36.Music, 150- ?200 million in a year is lost to piracy. About the same

:53:37. > :53:41.amount of money is spent in making new music. Literally the music

:53:42. > :53:46.industry could be doing twice as much as what it does with new

:53:47. > :53:53.artists if it was not losing that money. That is an example in real

:53:54. > :53:59.terms. In your analogy, maybe I could correct a couple of things.

:54:00. > :54:03.First of all, e-mails are triggered by people sharing files online, but

:54:04. > :54:10.they do not just talk about file sharing. Secondly, if the Internet

:54:11. > :54:15.service providers are not honouring people on their networks, the

:54:16. > :54:20.copyright holders will send notices. And they send the e-mail to the

:54:21. > :54:26.user. We do not want people to feel that their activity online is being

:54:27. > :54:29.looked at. If you got an e-mail saying, we notice you have been

:54:30. > :54:37.sharing this file illegally, would you stop doing it? I would. I would

:54:38. > :54:43.not do in the place. You can see the point I am making? We are doing more

:54:44. > :54:46.than that. We can say, there are consequences to your behaviour and

:54:47. > :54:51.some of those are a loss to the industry, but it is also a loss of

:54:52. > :54:56.jobs, a loss to the innovators and the creators trying to make

:54:57. > :55:03.something. It is the time people invest in making what they do. Last

:55:04. > :55:09.night, at the Costa book awards happened and I heard the winner this

:55:10. > :55:16.morning and he said, it took him 50 years to plan the book. He said it

:55:17. > :55:21.had been in his head for 50 years. That is what we are dealing with.

:55:22. > :55:24.Everyone is a fan of something, so when everyone understands that

:55:25. > :55:32.better, which is what we want to say with these e-mails, they say, I did

:55:33. > :55:38.not think about it that way. In some cases it is theft. John Carr, it is

:55:39. > :55:42.not clear to me how many e-mails you will need to get before some

:55:43. > :55:47.sanction is imposed. Are there any sanctions or is it just hope people

:55:48. > :55:52.will change their behaviour? As far as I am aware it is about drawing

:55:53. > :55:57.attention to people that they are breaking the law. A lot of parents

:55:58. > :56:01.who are the account holders in these situations have no idea that their

:56:02. > :56:07.kids are up to this kind of thing and what they are doing is unlawful.

:56:08. > :56:11.I hope these e-mails will trigger a conversation between parents and

:56:12. > :56:16.their children who might be ripping off films, music or whatever. There

:56:17. > :56:23.are two reasons why I am interested in this as a child protection

:56:24. > :56:26.person. One is it is a very bad idea for young people to be encouraged to

:56:27. > :56:32.believe to think that stealing or behaving unlawfully is permissible

:56:33. > :56:38.or is cool, or is something you can get away very easily with. Secondly,

:56:39. > :56:42.some of these piracy websites that kids are going to our awful and

:56:43. > :56:47.disgusting places, full of adverts for prostitution, drugs, we just do

:56:48. > :56:54.not want young people going to these places to begin with. A question

:56:55. > :56:57.from Hugh who is watching, please clarify the difference between

:56:58. > :57:03.downloading and streaming? Are they both illegal? They can be, it

:57:04. > :57:10.depends from where you are streaming in from. It is the source of the

:57:11. > :57:15.content. There are lots of legal places to stream from and legal apps

:57:16. > :57:18.that you can be using on your tablet and phone, but there are illegal

:57:19. > :57:23.ones because the content is not licensed. Do you accept the point

:57:24. > :57:28.there will be parents who will not know what their child is doing and

:57:29. > :57:33.it might be illegal and it would be useful for the parents to get one of

:57:34. > :57:36.these e-mails? I accept there are parents who do not know what

:57:37. > :57:41.children are doing on the Internet and it is a big issue that society

:57:42. > :57:45.has not yet tackled properly. The fact you are targeting some parents

:57:46. > :57:49.in this, but not all, that is a conversation we should be having

:57:50. > :57:54.just wider than the people who these e-mails are going to. Which is why

:57:55. > :57:59.we have the rest of the campaign which has been running for over a

:58:00. > :58:03.year, so we are. We have an ad that has been viewed about 12 million

:58:04. > :58:08.times. We have lots of different videos and assets that have been

:58:09. > :58:12.produced talking about different areas in the industry with

:58:13. > :58:17.creatives. We have been trying to reach people where they are in the

:58:18. > :58:20.place they like and these e-mails are just another tool in that

:58:21. > :58:23.toolkit to help us get that message out. Thank you all very much for

:58:24. > :58:33.coming on the programme. Still to come: Could a computer be able to

:58:34. > :58:38.read to the mind of a patient experiencing locked in syndrome.

:58:39. > :58:45.That is when somebody is conscious, but they are unaware that they are

:58:46. > :58:50.able to communicate. We will talk to a woman who recovered from locked in

:58:51. > :58:53.syndrome and I will be due some more of your incredible messages to

:58:54. > :58:59.Chelsea Cameron who was on the programme earlier. She read her open

:59:00. > :59:03.letter to her drug addicted parents. You are so admiring of her and I

:59:04. > :59:08.will read some of your messages in the next hour. We have got the

:59:09. > :59:14.latest news and sport, before that, the weather.

:59:15. > :59:20.This weather front will clear away and we have drier and brighter

:59:21. > :59:26.interlude with a few showers before more rain and strengthening winds

:59:27. > :59:32.arrive from the West. It is a mild start, temperatures not lifting that

:59:33. > :59:36.much from where they are now. Overnight we lose this front and the

:59:37. > :59:40.second one moves eastwards and then the next system comes in from the

:59:41. > :59:48.West, producing heavy rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures

:59:49. > :59:52.between 7-10. We are not anticipating problems with frost.

:59:53. > :59:57.Tomorrow rain moves from the West to the east, but the main feature will

:59:58. > :00:03.be the wind. It will be a windy day wherever you are. Gail is out

:00:04. > :00:08.towards the west and into the Irish Sea and up to Scotland. Temperatures

:00:09. > :00:12.are in double figures, but it will not feel particularly pleasant.

:00:13. > :00:21.18-year-old Chelsea Cameron from Dundee wrote an open letter

:00:22. > :00:24.to her drug addicted mum and dad thanking them for not

:00:25. > :00:31.She has told us in her first ever interview that while normality

:00:32. > :00:34.was missing from her childhood, her parents' absence had

:00:35. > :00:39.made her ambitious, independent and determined to succeed.

:00:40. > :00:45.Life is not sunshine and rainbows and thank you for teaching me that

:00:46. > :00:49.life is unfair. People disappoint you and there is sometimes nothing

:00:50. > :00:55.you can do about that. A lesson well learnt from the both of you. Guy

:00:56. > :01:01.says, "What an inspirational young woman. I sat here and criedment"

:01:02. > :01:06.Laura says, "Amazing bravery. Heartfelt thank you to her drug

:01:07. > :01:12.addicted parents. What an inspiring girl."

:01:13. > :01:16.You can watch the full 15 interview with Chelsea again and read the full

:01:17. > :01:27.letter by going to our programme page.

:01:28. > :01:31.MPs are likely to begin the process of leaving the process of leaving

:01:32. > :01:37.the European Union tonight. We're likely to hear more of that in the

:01:38. > :01:45.Commons. England has saved herself and will, I trust, save Europe and

:01:46. > :01:50.the United Kingdom by her example. I personally shall be voting with my

:01:51. > :01:55.conscience, content in this vote and when we see what unfolds here after

:01:56. > :01:59.as we leave the European Union, I hope the consciences of other

:02:00. > :02:03.members of Parliament remain equally content.

:02:04. > :02:11.Police in Los Angeles have made 500 arrests and rescued more than 50

:02:12. > :02:14.women and girls in their biggest ever operation to find young women

:02:15. > :02:17.We have exclusive access to the LAPD's major

:02:18. > :02:20.We find minors every day that were out here working.

:02:21. > :02:25.We had them as young as 11 and all the way to 17.

:02:26. > :02:28.11 is the youngest that we had though.

:02:29. > :02:30.And she was being forced to sell herself...

:02:31. > :02:40.Have you ever been confused when buying train tickets?

:02:41. > :02:47.Train operators are to overhaul what they say is a "baffling"

:02:48. > :02:50.ticketing system to ensure that you, the passengers, pay

:02:51. > :02:59.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:03:00. > :03:03.MPs will vote tonight on legislation that would allow the government

:03:04. > :03:05.to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:03:06. > :03:09.It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:03:10. > :03:16.The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:03:17. > :03:19.Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:03:20. > :03:23.Trials aimed at cutting red tape, and making it easier for passengers

:03:24. > :03:26.to find the cheapest fares, will begin in May.

:03:27. > :03:29.Our business correspondent Ben Thompson reports.

:03:30. > :03:37.Buying train tickets is notoriously complicated and confusing for many

:03:38. > :03:43.so now the Government is to trial a new, simpler system,

:03:44. > :03:47.one that should make it easier to find the cheapest fares.

:03:48. > :03:49.The new trial will begin in May this year on trains between London,

:03:50. > :03:54.It will reduce the number of confusing ticket options.

:03:55. > :03:58.The rail delivery group, which represents train operators,

:03:59. > :04:00.says the changes will mean passengers are offered the best

:04:01. > :04:02.price every time regardless of whether they book

:04:03. > :04:12.It's quite complicated to find which place to buy them

:04:13. > :04:20.A wide range from ?10 to ?76 for the journey I do.

:04:21. > :04:23.It is quite confusing to know which ones to take, especially like,

:04:24. > :04:29.The trial should put an end to what's known as split ticketing,

:04:30. > :04:31.where passengers divide their journey into single shorter

:04:32. > :04:35.Out of date options and discounts will also be removed

:04:36. > :04:44.The clearer ticket vending machines will never replace

:04:45. > :04:48.trained, helpful members of staff, so we need to make sure that train

:04:49. > :04:51.companies ensure that ticket offices remain open and that there are staff

:04:52. > :04:53.there who can talk you through the different options,

:04:54. > :05:01.The train companies themselves have welcomed the trial,

:05:02. > :05:03.blaming government rules built up over decades for stopping them

:05:04. > :05:08.But critics say the trial doesn't go far enough after above inflation

:05:09. > :05:10.price rises came into force in January alongside strikes

:05:11. > :05:20.and delays affecting many parts of the rail network.

:05:21. > :05:23.Donald Trump has nominated a conservative judge from Colorado,

:05:24. > :05:26.Neil Gorsuch, to fill a vacancy on the US Supreme Court.

:05:27. > :05:28.If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:05:29. > :05:31.to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:05:32. > :05:33.Some Democrats have said they will oppose the choice

:05:34. > :05:41.because of his attitudes towards womens' and workers' rights.

:05:42. > :05:46.The system for recovering cash from overseas patients who use

:05:47. > :05:49.the NHS is "chaotic" and ministers should "get a grip" on the issue,

:05:50. > :05:57.The Public Accounts Committee is calling for more to be done

:05:58. > :05:59.by the NHS to charge people from overseas.

:06:00. > :06:01.The Department of Health says the amount recovered from foreign

:06:02. > :06:03.countries has more than trebled in three years.

:06:04. > :06:05.Police say a 16-year-old Vietnamese boy has been found hiding

:06:06. > :06:08.in bushes in Dumbarton after escaping from traffickers.

:06:09. > :06:11.The teenager is thought to have been trafficked to Russia before

:06:12. > :06:14.He was found near Overtoun House in Dumbarton by a member

:06:15. > :06:19.Police are appealing for information.

:06:20. > :06:20.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:06:21. > :06:33.Thank you very much. Overwhelmed with the messages for

:06:34. > :06:37.Chelsea Cameron. Sarah says what an amazing young woman and a shining

:06:38. > :06:41.example of positivity and hope to share with others. Another viewer

:06:42. > :06:48.says, "Please hug this mature young woman from me. She amazed me with

:06:49. > :06:53.her attitude towards life." Joanne says, "I'm moved to tears. Chelsea,

:06:54. > :06:57.you are a wonderful, inspirational young woman." There are reams and

:06:58. > :07:03.reams of these. Thank you very, very much for those. If you're getting in

:07:04. > :07:06.touch, use the hashtag Victoria Live.

:07:07. > :07:11.Antonio Conte said he was "proud" of his Chelsea players,

:07:12. > :07:14.for the "personality" they showed against Liverpool at Anfield.

:07:15. > :07:17.The 1-1 draw left Chelsea nine points clear at the top

:07:18. > :07:23.They went ahead at Anfield, through a David Luiz free-kick.

:07:24. > :07:30.Georginio Wijnaldum equalised for Liverpool.

:07:31. > :07:33.Diego Costa had the chance to give them an even bigger cushion,

:07:34. > :07:53.important to draw against a really good team. But it's important to

:07:54. > :07:58.continue this way and to try to increase our points in the stable

:07:59. > :08:01.and it is important to see ourselves.

:08:02. > :08:04.With Chelsea dropping points, Arsenal could

:08:05. > :08:06.have narrowed the gap, but their title challenge

:08:07. > :08:12.They were beaten 2-1 at home to Watford.

:08:13. > :08:14.Younes Kaboul and Troy Deeney scoring

:08:15. > :08:17.Arsenal are third, level on points with Tottenham,

:08:18. > :08:34.The title, you can only have a chance if you win your games. So

:08:35. > :08:39.let's respond well. Before the game I knew and we prepared the game in a

:08:40. > :08:43.conscientious way, but we have to learn from tonight and respond well.

:08:44. > :08:45.Hull City's Ryan Mason says he's "lucky to be alive"

:08:46. > :08:50.Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea defender

:08:51. > :08:52.Gary Cahill and had surgery the same night.

:08:53. > :08:55.He's not put a time-frame on his recovery but has thanked

:08:56. > :08:56.everyone for the "overwhelming support" given to him

:08:57. > :09:03.The funeral of former England manager Graham Taylor will take

:09:04. > :09:06.place later in Watford, home of the club where he enjoyed

:09:07. > :09:09.Taylor died last month at the age of 72.

:09:10. > :09:12.Thousands are expected to turn out and pay their respects

:09:13. > :09:20.England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:09:21. > :09:24.Their last chance to win a series rests in Bangalore,

:09:25. > :09:30.Despite losing the Test and One Day Series, Joe Root believes

:09:31. > :09:42.We've got a lot in place to make us a very formidable side especially in

:09:43. > :09:45.Twenty20 cricket because we've proven we can perform at that level

:09:46. > :09:49.and across the others as well. We are building forward and making

:09:50. > :09:53.massive strides in one day cricket especially with the bat, scoring

:09:54. > :09:58.huge totals and we are finding our feet in Test cricket. So, it is a

:09:59. > :10:00.very interesting and entertaining time to be playing in international

:10:01. > :10:03.sport for England. And Lord Coe has been asked to meet

:10:04. > :10:06.MPs again after emails seem to confirm that he did know

:10:07. > :10:09.the details of doping allegations in athletics, four months

:10:10. > :10:14.before they became public. Coe had told a Parliamentary Select

:10:15. > :10:17.Committee that he was unaware of the specifics

:10:18. > :10:19.of the Russian doping scandal. That's all for now. I will have the

:10:20. > :10:26.headlines at 10.30am. Good morning, welcome to the

:10:27. > :10:37.programme. Now, it's a side of

:10:38. > :10:40.America you rarely see - it's hidden in the poverty

:10:41. > :10:42.of the inner cities - children forced into commercial

:10:43. > :10:44.sexual exploitation. Research last year suggested

:10:45. > :10:47.thousands of girls under the age of 18 are forced to sell themselves

:10:48. > :10:50.on the streets of the US. Last night Police in Los Angeles

:10:51. > :10:52.announced the results of their biggest ever operation

:10:53. > :10:55.to find these young people. They made almost 500 arrests

:10:56. > :10:57.and rescued more than 50 Our correspondent Angus Crawford

:10:58. > :11:01.was given exclusive access and spent This report does contain

:11:02. > :11:09.upsetting scenes, so if you have children in the room

:11:10. > :11:18.and you don't want them to watch, We find minors every day that

:11:19. > :11:21.were out here working. We had them as young as 11

:11:22. > :11:26.and all the way to 17. 11 is the youngest

:11:27. > :11:28.that we had though. And she was being forced

:11:29. > :11:30.to sell herself... On the street they call "the Blade",

:11:31. > :11:37.in the richest country in the world, children are bought and sold at any

:11:38. > :11:41.time of day, every day. We're looking for people

:11:42. > :11:44.hiding in the shadows. And you'll see, often

:11:45. > :11:50.times you'll see girls in the shadows in the corners,

:11:51. > :11:53.and they're looking at the motorists in the cars

:11:54. > :11:55.and looking to see if there This is South Central,

:11:56. > :11:59.one of the poorest, toughest Sergeant Brian Gallagher

:12:00. > :12:05.heads the area Vice Unit. A car approached her,

:12:06. > :12:07.she is again moving, His job tonight, find those girls,

:12:08. > :12:17.get them off the street. Stopped at Imperial

:12:18. > :12:21.in the McDonald's parking lot. Uniformed officers have followed

:12:22. > :12:24.a car and forced it to stop. It's four o'clock in the morning

:12:25. > :12:34.and a routine patrol of the vice squad here has pulled over a car

:12:35. > :12:38.driven by a man they know is a pimp. When they stopped it,

:12:39. > :12:41.a young woman got out of the car The police fear she's

:12:42. > :12:47.being exploited. They call them Romeo pimps,

:12:48. > :12:55.it's kind of like a dating "Hey, I need you to do

:12:56. > :12:59.this for us so we get a little bit more money and we can have a life

:13:00. > :13:03.and live happily ever after". The tattoos on her leg

:13:04. > :13:06.and neck are a giveaway. She's been branded with

:13:07. > :13:08.the name of her pimp. Almost all the girls have

:13:09. > :13:10.been marked like this. Police gently start to tease out

:13:11. > :13:13.the information they need. It turns out she's been reported

:13:14. > :13:17.missing by her parents. Officers hope they can

:13:18. > :13:18.persuade her to leave My cousin grabbed me

:13:19. > :13:24.and the way home from school. Next thing I know I'm

:13:25. > :13:28.in a different city. America is slowly waking up

:13:29. > :13:31.to the reality that thousands of children across the US

:13:32. > :13:33.are being sexually I was actually groomed

:13:34. > :13:45.from a very young girl. And at one point in my life

:13:46. > :13:48.I thought that this is as good Put to work on the street

:13:49. > :13:55.from the age of 11, now she helps You know, our kids are being picked

:13:56. > :14:00.off left and right. To be bought and sold

:14:01. > :14:05.and to make someone else money, it's kind of like our kids are seen

:14:06. > :14:09.as something to sell, They're not seen as human beings,

:14:10. > :14:16.like, this is, this is something that is actually taking over

:14:17. > :14:24.the United States very rapidly. Which is why California has launched

:14:25. > :14:26.this State-wide operation, the biggest of its kind ever

:14:27. > :14:31.to take place here. So far they've arrested hundreds

:14:32. > :14:34.of adult prostitutes but their real aim is to find the children

:14:35. > :14:36.who are forced to And when they find them,

:14:37. > :14:40.they treat them very differently. They're arrested like all

:14:41. > :14:47.the others and taken But they don't end up

:14:48. > :14:51.in a cell, instead they are No bars, no locks, it's a place

:14:52. > :14:55.of safety with specially trained The soft room is really

:14:56. > :15:06.to put the victim at ease. Make them understand

:15:07. > :15:10.that we are treating them as a victim and not as a suspect

:15:11. > :15:13.and that anything they did tonight was not going to be treated

:15:14. > :15:16.as a crime and what we really want to do is save them,

:15:17. > :15:19.bring them to a safe environment so they can get the resources

:15:20. > :15:23.they need and we can also get to the bottom of who is doing this

:15:24. > :15:26.to them so we can bring that So this is about help,

:15:27. > :15:29.not punishment? We ride along with another

:15:30. > :15:37.Vice Unit, this time in Compton, once notorious for drugs

:15:38. > :15:40.and gang violence. On the main street in broad

:15:41. > :15:42.daylight women are already Here police, social workers

:15:43. > :15:54.and anti-trafficking Some of the women are

:15:55. > :15:59.released with a warning. Others, multiple offenders,

:16:00. > :16:10.are taken to jail. In a holding area they come

:16:11. > :16:12.face-to-face with their customers, A deliberate tactic,

:16:13. > :16:21.shame used as a powerful deterrent. Few of the women though

:16:22. > :16:23.are able to leave the life. Just 18, caught for

:16:24. > :16:25.a second time, Treasure. She started on the street

:16:26. > :16:27.in middle school. Somebody pulled a knife out on me,

:16:28. > :16:32.a gun, tried to rob me. Those are just a few things

:16:33. > :16:34.that happened to me. But you were a child

:16:35. > :16:37.when you first started doing this? Crystal is in for an

:16:38. > :17:03.unpleasant surprise. Prostitutes openly advertise online,

:17:04. > :17:07.some are children, even They are setting up

:17:08. > :17:22.a sting in a hotel room. The undercover officer

:17:23. > :17:27.will be in one room. While next door an entire

:17:28. > :17:29.team is getting ready. When the officer has the proof

:17:30. > :17:35.he needs, they go in. Police Department, turn

:17:36. > :17:38.around and keep your hands This is the only thing

:17:39. > :18:03.I can do to survive I'm a father, you know,

:18:04. > :18:18.and you have a heart If you don't you're

:18:19. > :18:25.in the wrong profession. Police Department,

:18:26. > :18:27.LAPD, stand up for me. It is often young, vulnerable people

:18:28. > :18:40.that are pulled into this lifestyle. I hope and believe that in time

:18:41. > :18:50.that this will get better. In South Central, on the Blade, it's

:18:51. > :18:53.the final night of the operation. It's cold, but the prostitutes

:18:54. > :18:56.are still working. Forced to bring money

:18:57. > :19:00.to their pimp everyday. Forced to bring money

:19:01. > :19:03.to their pimp every day. Continuing westbound,

:19:04. > :19:05.through Denver, it looks Despite years of experience,

:19:06. > :19:10.Brian Gallagher is still What alarms me is how big

:19:11. > :19:16.the problem is and how little people In fact, even us as law enforcement,

:19:17. > :19:23.how little we know about how big This is like crack

:19:24. > :19:29.cocaine in the 80s. Young girls being sold out here,

:19:30. > :19:32.the difference between a young girl and crack cocaine is she can be sold

:19:33. > :19:36.10 times in one night, a piece During the three days

:19:37. > :19:41.police across the state As the sun comes up,

:19:42. > :19:48.the work seems never-ending. Children forced to work the streets

:19:49. > :19:59.turn into women who know only this, Could a computer be able to read

:20:00. > :20:24.the mind of a patient in a locked-in state -

:20:25. > :20:26.conscious,, aware of everything that's going on around them,

:20:27. > :20:28.but unable to communicate, A group of scientists in Switzerland

:20:29. > :20:40.believe they have achieved this by measuring the blood flow

:20:41. > :20:42.in the brain of four patients when they were asked a series

:20:43. > :20:50.of basic yes or no qtns. when they were asked a series

:20:51. > :20:53.of basic yes or no questions. One man was able to refuse

:20:54. > :20:55.permission for his The patients when asked

:20:56. > :21:13.if they were happy - I can be sure by asking them several

:21:14. > :21:19.hundreds of questions when I and the family know the answer, like trivial

:21:20. > :21:27.questions. London is the capital of France or England? I ask them

:21:28. > :21:31.hundreds of questions of this kind and where we know the answer and

:21:32. > :21:37.when the patient is able to give the answer in 70% of the cases

:21:38. > :21:38.correctly, I can ask them, are you happy? Are you happy with life, do

:21:39. > :21:44.Are you happy with life, do you have pain?

:21:45. > :21:46.In 2010, Kate Allatt became "locked-in"

:21:47. > :21:51.She's now a motivational speaker, stroke activist and author,

:21:52. > :22:06.Nice to see you again, how are you? Very good. How are you? Very good.

:22:07. > :22:11.Tell us about being locked in after a stroke. I had a stroke at 39 and

:22:12. > :22:16.when it happened it was like a pneumatic drill going through my

:22:17. > :22:22.head. It was so loud. It was not painful, but the noise was horrific.

:22:23. > :22:27.I was taken to hospital and put in a coma for three days. When I woke I

:22:28. > :22:34.could not move a single muscle. I was drowsy and so on, but within

:22:35. > :22:39.days I became aware of myself and my environment, so I knew what was

:22:40. > :22:42.going on around me, but I could not communicate to anybody around me

:22:43. > :22:49.through a digit or a blink or nothing. I was in that state for two

:22:50. > :22:55.weeks. What is it like? You can hear everything and are aware of

:22:56. > :23:00.everything and you can contribute? It is absolutely horrendous. We have

:23:01. > :23:04.seen films about having conversations about people turning

:23:05. > :23:09.life-support machines. People and people talking about you as if you

:23:10. > :23:13.are not there. Very fearful about what is happening with the life

:23:14. > :23:19.machine and whether it will be turned off. The leg cramps, the

:23:20. > :23:25.board, the anxiety, missing my kids. It was terrible. The reason it

:23:26. > :23:30.changed for me was my friends used to come and visit me and if my head

:23:31. > :23:35.was pointed towards the door, I saw them visiting me and I used to weep

:23:36. > :23:44.the silent tears. They knew before even the doctors did, who thought I

:23:45. > :23:52.was vegetative, that I was not. In fact, it is estimated that 20-40% of

:23:53. > :23:55.patients are considered vegetative and misdiagnosed. Anyway, they came

:23:56. > :24:01.in and cobbled together a letter board and they said to me with the

:24:02. > :24:06.very small blink that I had, blink once for no and twice for yes. It

:24:07. > :24:14.was very slight. One was pointing and one was writing down. The very

:24:15. > :24:17.first word I spelt out which took 20 minutes was sleep. My very

:24:18. > :24:29.perceptive friend Jackie said, cannot sleep? I blinked twice. .

:24:30. > :24:33.Then she said, at night? I blinked twice. I was still locked in, I had

:24:34. > :24:40.to live like that for five months, but at that point my world open and

:24:41. > :24:45.I did not have to live in my own body alone any more. If you put

:24:46. > :24:49.together every Christmas, every birthday and the moment you hold

:24:50. > :24:57.your first newborn, that is how euphoric I was. It was unbelievable.

:24:58. > :25:01.That is an incredible description. We can only imagine for these four

:25:02. > :25:06.patients were scientists have looked at the activity of their brain cells

:25:07. > :25:12.and realised the oxygen levels in their blood to change the colour of

:25:13. > :25:15.the blood, they peered into their brain to detect the blood plasma

:25:16. > :25:20.colour and asked them the questions and worked out from the change of

:25:21. > :25:26.the colour whether they were saying yes or no. I think this technology

:25:27. > :25:31.is phenomenal. It is a basic human right for quality of life for any

:25:32. > :25:38.person, anywhere, whether they are locked in for two weeks, 20 years, a

:25:39. > :25:42.month, whatever, to be able to communicate and not to be assumed to

:25:43. > :25:47.be vegetative because it is more convenient. It is terrible not being

:25:48. > :25:53.able to communicate when you can understand everything going on

:25:54. > :25:58.around you. I think this technology and the technology of Doctor Owens

:25:59. > :26:02.in Ontario about brain Mapping through a cap for people like this

:26:03. > :26:08.is phenomenally important. It is absolutely essential. Tell our

:26:09. > :26:14.audience how you have managed to come back from that stroke being

:26:15. > :26:20.locked in and your general recovery. I can tell you I am not a medic and

:26:21. > :26:24.a lot of people scratched their heads when they looked at my scans

:26:25. > :26:30.and where I have come from until now. I have never given up. I am not

:26:31. > :26:39.saying I tackle like this positively in every respect of my life, but I

:26:40. > :26:40.was written off and I worked so hard intensively, frequently,

:26:41. > :26:47.repetitively, even before I knew that theory on it. I used to

:26:48. > :26:54.obsessively 300 times a day practice moving my digits more. It was such

:26:55. > :26:59.an obsession. I was a 70 miles a week fell runner and I was used to

:27:00. > :27:05.hard work. I had rehab and the support of my family, but beyond

:27:06. > :27:13.that I had some very big luck, which was a game changer for me. But I was

:27:14. > :27:16.in rehab and they described me as someone who pushed them harder than

:27:17. > :27:22.they pushed me. That is quite telling from a rehab unit. Kate,

:27:23. > :27:26.thank you so much and thank you for coming on the programme. It is

:27:27. > :27:28.really good seeing you looking so well. Thank you and good luck to you

:27:29. > :27:31.Thank you and good luck to you as well.

:27:32. > :27:33.On Monday we're holding a special programme looking

:27:34. > :27:37.We'll be looking at the problems it's facing and asking

:27:38. > :27:41.If you work in the NHS, a doctor, a nurse or a consultant,

:27:42. > :27:44.or you're a patient with recent experience, we'd love you to take

:27:45. > :27:48.It's in central London on Monday February 6th.

:27:49. > :27:57.to register your interest and one of our team will be in touch.

:27:58. > :27:59.The parents of missing toddler Madeleine McCann say

:28:00. > :28:01.they're disappointed that Portugal's Supreme Court has thrown

:28:02. > :28:11.out their libel case against a former detective.

:28:12. > :28:14.Goncalo Amaral had published a book alleging the couple were involved

:28:15. > :28:16.in their daughter's disappearance during a family holiday in 2007.

:28:17. > :28:19.The court's ruled the allegations are protected by freedom

:28:20. > :28:24.of expression laws, and aren't abusive.

:28:25. > :28:28.Let's speak to Brendan De Beer works for the Portugal news and has been

:28:29. > :28:29.covering the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

:28:30. > :28:45.What does this ruling mean? Well, it finally puts that case to rest I

:28:46. > :28:50.guess. It has been ongoing for some time. Being a Supreme Court ruling,

:28:51. > :28:54.that is the final ruling in the matter. There are suggestions this

:28:55. > :29:00.morning in Portugal that Goncalo Amaral might consider lodging a

:29:01. > :29:04.counterclaim against Kate and Gerry McCann, saying he suffered losses as

:29:05. > :29:09.a result of the litigation over the years. This was something mentioned

:29:10. > :29:14.by his lawyer in 2015 when they won the initial review. That could be

:29:15. > :29:21.potentially where we go next in this case. We know that the former

:29:22. > :29:26.detective had to pay Kate and Gerry McCann something like 12 million

:29:27. > :29:32.euros, ?1 million. Does that mean they will have to pay him back or

:29:33. > :29:39.what? As far as I know, I do not think money has changed hands yet. I

:29:40. > :29:45.do not think with all this going on in the courts and every appeal that

:29:46. > :29:48.has been lodged, I do not think the ruling was definitive. As it stands

:29:49. > :29:57.now I do not think any money needs to be paid back to him. However, he

:29:58. > :30:04.might lodge a counterclaim. Financially it could be pretty

:30:05. > :30:08.ruinous for the McCann family? Yes, but we have seen with this

:30:09. > :30:13.particular ruling now that the Portuguese chords are pretty

:30:14. > :30:17.reluctant when it comes to making settlements and damage claims.

:30:18. > :30:22.Several other cases in Portugal, the amounts very seldom are extremely

:30:23. > :30:26.high. In the UK you are accustomed to getting huge pay-outs. In

:30:27. > :30:32.Portugal that is not customary. I guess the value of money perhaps is

:30:33. > :30:38.a bit higher and what might be considered a huge sum, a small sum

:30:39. > :30:43.in the UK, is considered a big one here, so I do not think it is

:30:44. > :30:46.potentially ruinous. It could maybe be five or six figures. I am sure

:30:47. > :30:51.that is what the claim could be for, but whether or not that happens is a

:30:52. > :30:54.different story. Thank you very much.

:30:55. > :31:10.A chronic shortage of prison officers.

:31:11. > :31:13.All this is revealed after an inspection at Exeter Prison.

:31:14. > :31:16.We'll speak to an officer who spent two weeks inside the prison.

:31:17. > :31:18.Train operators are going to radically overhaul what they say

:31:19. > :31:27.We'll find out what it could mean for passengers.

:31:28. > :31:32.With the news, here's Joanna Gosling in the BBC Newsroom.

:31:33. > :31:35.MPs vote tonight on legislation that would allow the government

:31:36. > :31:37.to trigger Article 50, starting the process

:31:38. > :31:40.It would see the start of two years of formal negotiations

:31:41. > :31:44.The Government is expected to win the vote, despite opposition

:31:45. > :31:49.Train operators have promised to overhaul what they say

:31:50. > :31:54.Trials aimed at making it easier for passengers to find the cheapest

:31:55. > :31:57.The first routes affected will include CrossCountry,

:31:58. > :32:03.Virgin Trains' east and west coast services and East Midlands.

:32:04. > :32:06.President Trump has called on the US Senate to speedily approve

:32:07. > :32:07.Neil Gorsuch's nomination to the vacant seat

:32:08. > :32:12.If confirmed, the 49-year-old will become the youngest person

:32:13. > :32:15.to fill the position in a quarter of a century.

:32:16. > :32:16.Democratic senators have raised questions about his attitudes

:32:17. > :32:38.A Tunisian man has been arrested in Germany suspected of recruiting for

:32:39. > :32:42.Islamic State. The man was arrested in Frankfurt where he is alleged to

:32:43. > :32:46.have led an IS cell that was planning an attack in the country.

:32:47. > :32:49.Join me for BBC Newsroom live at 11am.

:32:50. > :32:54.Chelsea have extended their lead at the top of the Premier League

:32:55. > :32:59.David Luiz put them ahead at Anfield although Liverpool equalised

:33:00. > :33:08.Antonio Conte's side are now nine points clear after their closest

:33:09. > :33:13.Hull City's Ryan Mason says he's "lucky to be alive"

:33:14. > :33:16.Mason fractured his skull in a challenge with Chelsea

:33:17. > :33:23.He has thanked everyone for the "overwhelming support" given

:33:24. > :33:26.England's cricketers will be looking to finish a disappointing winter

:33:27. > :33:31.Their last hope of a series win lies with the final T20 in Bangalore

:33:32. > :33:38.after they lost the Test and One Day series.

:33:39. > :33:41.And Lord Coe has been asked to meet MPs again after e-mails seem

:33:42. > :33:44.to confirm he DID know the details of doping allegations

:33:45. > :33:46.in athletics, four months before they became public.

:33:47. > :33:48.Coe says he was not aware of the specifics.

:33:49. > :34:13.Staff unrest and a chronic shortage of prison officers.

:34:14. > :34:15.All this is revealed after an inspection at Exeter Prison.

:34:16. > :34:17.It comes after recent disturbances at Lewes, Bedford,

:34:18. > :34:19.Birmingham and Swaleside prisons, and a record number of prison

:34:20. > :34:26.The Government has promised more than ?100 million

:34:27. > :34:28.for 2,500 more officers, the Chief Inspector of Prisons'

:34:29. > :34:31.verdict is that the situation at Exeter isn't going to get better

:34:32. > :34:34.Let's talk to Mark Fairhurst from the Prison

:34:35. > :34:41.In the last two weeks he has spent time in Exeter Prison to compile

:34:42. > :34:43.a report into health and safety there.

:34:44. > :34:44.Andrew Neilson is from The Howard League,

:34:45. > :34:53.So how bad was it, Mark? Well, I'm pleased to announce that Exeter has

:34:54. > :34:57.turn the corner since that inspection in August 2015. I'd like

:34:58. > :35:01.to commend the staff and indeed the management for the effort they've

:35:02. > :35:05.put into that. When I visited the regime was stable. They had an

:35:06. > :35:08.excellent violence reduction project in place and they were doing the

:35:09. > :35:13.best they could with the resources that were available. So everything

:35:14. > :35:17.is fine at Exeter jail, you say now? Well, it is not fine. They still

:35:18. > :35:20.have their difficulties. It's quite obvious when you walk around that

:35:21. > :35:25.there is a chronic shortage of staff. They're due to get 13 new

:35:26. > :35:29.staff in the next couple of weeks, but they need more if they're going

:35:30. > :35:34.to provide a constructive regime for prisoners. OK. You say they've

:35:35. > :35:38.turned, you're pleased to announce they have turned things around since

:35:39. > :35:44.that inspection in 2015. There have been ten suicides in the last three

:35:45. > :35:50.years at Exeter jail. They have not really turned things around, have

:35:51. > :35:55.they? What happened at Exeter echoes what is happening throughout the

:35:56. > :36:00.entire prison estate. So they haven't turned things around?

:36:01. > :36:03.Suicides are at their highest level throughout the estate, as were

:36:04. > :36:06.assaults on staff. The only way you're going to fix that is by

:36:07. > :36:11.recruiting more staff and giving staff the tools they need to do the

:36:12. > :36:16.job and keep themselves safe. I understand, but they haven't turned

:36:17. > :36:20.things around then? Well, they have since that inspection because the

:36:21. > :36:25.regime was stable. Relationships with prisoners were very good and

:36:26. > :36:28.they were taking swift action whenever there was violence against

:36:29. > :36:35.staff on the landings. Why did ten people die then? Why were ten people

:36:36. > :36:39.able to take their own lives? Well, unfortunately, as in Exeter, with

:36:40. > :36:44.the rest of the estate, we haven't got the staff to care for the

:36:45. > :36:46.vulnerable who are presenting themselves with mental health

:36:47. > :36:50.problems. You know, we want to sit down with them. We want to care for

:36:51. > :36:57.them, but we simply haven't got the resource to do that. Andrew, do you

:36:58. > :37:02.accept that things have turned a corner at Exeter jail? I haven't

:37:03. > :37:06.been at Exeter recently. But I'm prepared to accept that things have

:37:07. > :37:09.improved. One of the most concerning things about the report is

:37:10. > :37:12.inspectorate were expressing a lack of confidence that things could

:37:13. > :37:16.improve and what is concerning about that is as you say, people have

:37:17. > :37:22.taken their own lives and that means lives are at stake. Things have to

:37:23. > :37:24.improve. Exeter is in many ways a typical local prison, overcrowded,

:37:25. > :37:29.facing a transient population of prisoners in and out, going to the

:37:30. > :37:32.courts, but at the same time, inspectors did find that the

:37:33. > :37:37.problems it was facing at the time of the inspection were worse than

:37:38. > :37:40.comparable prisons. But on another level, it is a typical prison and

:37:41. > :37:45.the problems are across the prison estate. They are systemic, I don't

:37:46. > :37:49.think they are a responsibility of any one particular staff group. We

:37:50. > :37:53.need to look at the system as a whole and solutions that can provide

:37:54. > :37:58.an answer to this. Something which you have been campaigning on for as

:37:59. > :38:03.long as I can remember, decades. Are you failing? Well, I think the

:38:04. > :38:06.Howard League is getting its message through louder than we have in many

:38:07. > :38:12.years because of all the stories that we have seen in the media that

:38:13. > :38:16.you alluded, the riots and disturbances and the escapes, the

:38:17. > :38:19.deaths, prisons are regularly in the news and regularly, I think higher

:38:20. > :38:23.up on the political agenda than they were. But what reform have you

:38:24. > :38:27.achieved? Well, we have achieved reform on particular groups,

:38:28. > :38:31.children for example, the number of children in prison reduced by

:38:32. > :38:36.two-thirds in recent years. But the number of adults remains very high

:38:37. > :38:41.and I think it is true that we need more staff and resources that

:38:42. > :38:45.supplying is one side of this, but the other side is demand and that's

:38:46. > :38:49.the number of people we're putting in prisons like Exeter, a prison

:38:50. > :38:53.designed to hold about 320 prisoners is actually holding under 500. When

:38:54. > :38:57.you put that kind of pressure alongside problems with staffing and

:38:58. > :39:00.resources, then you're going to get these huge problems. It is a toxic

:39:01. > :39:08.cocktail. Thank you very much. Thank you.

:39:09. > :39:13.We've received a statement from the Ministry of Justice

:39:14. > :39:16.which says, "The Chief Inspector has highlighted the dedication

:39:17. > :39:19.of managers and staff at HMP Exeter who have been working hard

:39:20. > :39:20.to provide a decent regime despite considerable

:39:21. > :39:25.I'm confident that together with these extra resources

:39:26. > :39:28.the governor will be able to fully address the recommendations in this

:39:29. > :39:35.report and significantly improve the performance of the prison".

:39:36. > :39:42.Another chance to hear some of 18-year-old Chelsea' Cameron's

:39:43. > :39:46.letter to her drug addicted parents. Thank you for not being there during

:39:47. > :39:50.her childhood. She told us this morning that although there was no

:39:51. > :39:53.such thing as normality when she was growing up, her parents absence has

:39:54. > :39:58.given her the strength to really make something of her life.

:39:59. > :40:08.So we'll play you another extract before the end of the programme.

:40:09. > :40:10.Frank Rosier, a World War Two veteran who took

:40:11. > :40:13.part in the Dday landings more than 70 years ago, has died.

:40:14. > :40:16.The 91-year-old, who served as an infantryman with the 2nd

:40:17. > :40:17.Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment, was in the second wave

:40:18. > :40:21.On Armistice Day in 2015, Frank came on the programme

:40:22. > :40:23.and shared some of his memories with Joanna and explained

:40:24. > :40:26.why Armistice day was so important to him.

:40:27. > :40:28.My generation, you could say, are the last link with

:40:29. > :40:30.the First World War veterans because it was our dads

:40:31. > :40:40.I have very vivid memories of my two uncles who both lost a leg

:40:41. > :40:43.and my own dad who was wounded in the war in the ankle.

:40:44. > :40:46.I remember them quite a lot and I also remember the lads that

:40:47. > :40:50.They were very young boys and I still never forget those

:40:51. > :40:59.So Remembrance Day, 11/11, is very important to me.

:41:00. > :41:05.One story that is never really told is that by 1942 we were a small

:41:06. > :41:08.nation population wise and we were running out of men,

:41:09. > :41:11.so they lowered the recruiting age to 17 and a quarter.

:41:12. > :41:13.That is where everybody at that age volunteered.

:41:14. > :41:17.I would go as far as to say more than half the Armed Forces in those

:41:18. > :41:21.Consequently, we volunteered at 17 and a quarter and then

:41:22. > :41:24.after training, by the time we got to D-Day, the eldest among us

:41:25. > :41:35.And to think that really we got through it, and I had many instances

:41:36. > :41:44.of the comradeship with the fellows that I was with,

:41:45. > :41:46.we helped one another, and the British Army,

:41:47. > :41:49.I don't know if these boys agree with me, had a wonderful

:41:50. > :41:52.The ability to laugh at situations gets you out of trouble

:41:53. > :41:57.But leaving those young boys, there are 14 of my platoon

:41:58. > :42:00.who lie in the cemetery, and I go over there and I still cry

:42:01. > :42:02.because I live the life they never had.

:42:03. > :42:04.The youngest was 19 and the eldest was 24.

:42:05. > :42:23.But quite a lot were in the infantry platoon who did not survive the war.

:42:24. > :42:29.Very few of us got through the war unhurt.

:42:30. > :42:33.Many were wounded and went back again.

:42:34. > :42:37.There is a lot to think about these days.

:42:38. > :42:40.Also I spent four years in hospital in the plastic surgery unit

:42:41. > :42:43.and I always think of those lads who I was with.

:42:44. > :42:49.The same age, who lost two legs, they were badly burned.

:42:50. > :42:56.I do not know if the others agree with me, there

:42:57. > :43:02.Frank Rosier, veteran of the D-Day landings, speaking to us in 2015.

:43:03. > :43:10.Frank has, sadly, died at the age of 91.

:43:11. > :43:12.Many of you who travel by rail regularly will

:43:13. > :43:15.Train operators have finally promised to overhaul

:43:16. > :43:18.the ticketing system, which even they admit is "baffling"

:43:19. > :43:29.They'll start trials of a new system in May,

:43:30. > :43:32.to simplify things and make sure you pay the cheapest possible

:43:33. > :43:44.Anthony Smith is the Chief Executive of the independent watchdog

:43:45. > :43:52.Tell us about the situation now? Fares have built up through

:43:53. > :43:57.privatisation and things have been added on top of each other. It

:43:58. > :44:02.turned into a topsy-turvy mess. Have you got any ludicrous examples? You

:44:03. > :44:06.can find fare ifs you book through the train ticket line and if you do

:44:07. > :44:10.a split ticket, the break the journey into different parts and you

:44:11. > :44:13.can reduce the fare. Passengers are baffled, so hopefully this morning

:44:14. > :44:17.we're seeing the start of a rail ticketing revolution. I wonder what

:44:18. > :44:19.they will do so we always know that we're getting the cheapest fare

:44:20. > :44:23.then? It is about information. So you can make an informed choice, if

:44:24. > :44:26.you have got clear information in front of you and you can see that's

:44:27. > :44:31.the cheapest fare, that is the restriction that is go with it, if

:44:32. > :44:34.you can only use it on one train or something, but these are pilots so

:44:35. > :44:39.we will be watching carefully what happens in the pilots. Right, OK.

:44:40. > :44:43.Why hasn't it happened before now? It is a such a big one. It is one of

:44:44. > :44:47.those issues that nobody had the courage to tackle because it got so

:44:48. > :44:49.big and the situation has got so bad, the Government, the train

:44:50. > :44:53.companies, everyone recognises that we have got to have a go at this and

:44:54. > :44:59.sort it out. What are you an independent watchdog of? We look

:45:00. > :45:06.after the interests rail passengers and road passengers and bus

:45:07. > :45:10.passengers, our views are heard. Have you had success? We have had

:45:11. > :45:13.lots of you can ses in improving the way that penalty fares are imposed

:45:14. > :45:17.on passengers and we have got this review on the table. Years of

:45:18. > :45:20.pressure, years of lobbying, years of research and finding out what

:45:21. > :45:27.passengers really think led to this day. So it is good. I mean, I might

:45:28. > :45:30.be wrong, I might be being too cynical, it is not going to end up

:45:31. > :45:34.denting the private identitiesed rail companies profits, is it?

:45:35. > :45:37.They're not going to make it, so they don't make as much money? No,

:45:38. > :45:40.that's a good point. Nobody will want the rail industry to be losing

:45:41. > :45:44.money, therefore, there will be win, and there will be losers in these

:45:45. > :45:47.types of trial and we've got to watch carefully because there are

:45:48. > :45:50.Government regulations built into this which are old-fashioned and

:45:51. > :45:54.they don't really work anymore, but they provide a basic level of

:45:55. > :45:57.protection. We don't want to sweep that away without us knowing what's

:45:58. > :46:01.happening. We don't want to leap in the dark.

:46:02. > :46:05.There are some amazing routes, we get on the train and see why can't

:46:06. > :46:09.the rest of the system be like this and there are shockers. If you judge

:46:10. > :46:14.a country by its railway system, how would you describe Britain? It is

:46:15. > :46:18.good in parts. Long-distance services, people really like them.

:46:19. > :46:23.People who can get hold of advance purchase tickets, they can be good

:46:24. > :46:26.value for money. For your average commuter, it doesn't feel like good

:46:27. > :46:30.value. A lot of investment is being made, but that's causing pain as

:46:31. > :46:35.stations are rebuilt and the track is redone. It feels like not very

:46:36. > :46:44.good value for money at the moment. A word with Stephen Hammond, hello.

:46:45. > :46:51.It has been true for a while back if you knew how to negotiate the

:46:52. > :46:56.system, you would find the best fares. But this is good news for the

:46:57. > :47:02.consumer who will know the fair they are being offered is the best fare.

:47:03. > :47:08.However, the devil will be in the detail. Why has it taken so long?

:47:09. > :47:13.They have done a number of things over the last few years to simplify

:47:14. > :47:18.the system, but not enough. They have made presentation easier, but

:47:19. > :47:23.not enough. This is the government saying and the rail companies

:47:24. > :47:27.agreeing to ensure that the consumer gets a better deal, that it is

:47:28. > :47:35.obvious and in front of them. They are not in it to lose money? There

:47:36. > :47:42.is a group of fares on which they lose money already, regulated fares

:47:43. > :47:46.that go up every year. The real problem is Network Rail and unless

:47:47. > :47:50.the government bears down on those costs, that then can be passed

:47:51. > :47:55.through to the consumer and that is the real task. I know it was last

:47:56. > :47:58.minute, but we appreciate it. Stephen Hammond and Anthony Smith.

:47:59. > :48:09.We've had loads of responses to an interview we did earlier

:48:10. > :48:13.She's 18 and has written an open letter to her parents -

:48:14. > :48:17.both drug addicts - about how they missed all those

:48:18. > :48:31.The letter is a thank you letter thanking them for making her choose

:48:32. > :48:35.the right path, as she put it, for not getting into drugs, for seeing

:48:36. > :48:40.what a lack of ambition can do to your life and how harmful it can be.

:48:41. > :48:44.She read most of the open letter on the programme a little earlier and

:48:45. > :48:49.because of the response from you, we thought we would play a bit of it

:48:50. > :48:56.again. Thank you for teaching me to be ambitious. Your example showed me

:48:57. > :49:00.that no ambition for education, work or success is harmful and it leads

:49:01. > :49:05.to a lot of self worth. Your example showed me life is about choices and

:49:06. > :49:10.I did not need to make the same ones you did. Remember when we forced dad

:49:11. > :49:15.into watching Hannah Montana? There is a line in one of the songs that

:49:16. > :49:19.says, life is what you make it, so let's make it rock. Life has turned

:49:20. > :49:25.out for me what I have chosen to make it. Thank you for teaching me

:49:26. > :49:30.to not be so easily embarrassed. You both have not made the best of

:49:31. > :49:33.choices, they have gone pretty public, allowing everyone I

:49:34. > :49:38.associate with to know what you are both like. That has given me the

:49:39. > :49:43.opportunity to speak freely and openly about who I am and how my

:49:44. > :49:48.life has been growing up. Up until my third year of high school I had

:49:49. > :49:52.an alter ego. People did not need to know the circumstances I was in and

:49:53. > :49:59.if they found out, I would die on the spot because I made myself

:50:00. > :50:04.something I was not. The thing that kept me sane was thinking people did

:50:05. > :50:08.not know the truth. They probably did, but I brainwashed myself into

:50:09. > :50:12.thinking they did not. Thank you for teaching me life is unfair, people

:50:13. > :50:16.disappoint you and there is nothing you can do about that, a lesson well

:50:17. > :50:22.learned from both of you. Tag you for not being there to wave goodbye

:50:23. > :50:26.as I'd jetted off to Uganda on a trip of a lifetime. Thank you for

:50:27. > :50:31.not being there when I got my exam results. At you for not being there

:50:32. > :50:36.when I got the position of head girl, thank you for not being there

:50:37. > :50:40.when I stood in front of hundreds of people to speak at my prizegiving.

:50:41. > :50:45.Thank you for not being there when I needed you. You have given me the

:50:46. > :50:49.greatest lesson of how to be independent. You allowed me to be a

:50:50. > :50:54.more tolerant and independent person I ever imagined. Dad, I hope you

:50:55. > :50:59.have a greater insight into the type of person I am and the things you

:51:00. > :51:05.have taught me. Ma'am, I hope you also know me a bit better now and

:51:06. > :51:09.know I am trying to be a good person and always will. I hope one day you

:51:10. > :51:13.will wake up and realise there is so much more that the world has to

:51:14. > :51:18.offer you and when that day comes, please come to find me so we can

:51:19. > :51:23.enjoy life together. I will show you some nice restaurants and if you are

:51:24. > :51:27.lucky I will take you to Germany one day and until then I hope you

:51:28. > :51:37.realise what life might be like with parents to enjoy it with. Wow, that

:51:38. > :51:43.is really powerful and very moving. What is really upsetting is you say

:51:44. > :51:47.life is not sunshine and rainbows. We know that, but you know it at

:51:48. > :51:54.such a young age. That makes me very sad. There are lots of negative

:51:55. > :51:59.things that come into people's lives not through their own circumstances,

:52:00. > :52:03.and what I wanted to do was to show people they can choose positivity no

:52:04. > :52:08.matter their circumstances, choose to have joy in their life no matter

:52:09. > :52:15.what happens. Society sometimes tells you what your fate is. If your

:52:16. > :52:19.parents live a certain way, what if you let a certain lifestyle, it is

:52:20. > :52:23.destined to live like that. My hope is to show other young people they

:52:24. > :52:28.can choose exactly how they want their life to be. They can choose

:52:29. > :52:34.joy, happiness and positivity no matter what the circumstances. What

:52:35. > :52:39.kind of response have you had? Incredible responses, so many people

:52:40. > :52:43.have contacted me in similar situations who have said, this has

:52:44. > :52:47.really helped me, I have been in the same situation, it has made me

:52:48. > :52:53.realise it is OK to talk about how you feel and to know they do not

:52:54. > :52:57.have to fall into that pathway. Not just with drugs, a lot of people

:52:58. > :53:01.have contacted me with any negative situation they have had and it has

:53:02. > :53:07.made them realise you can choose to be positive. Just because something

:53:08. > :53:13.negative has happened in your life, that doesn't determine your attitude

:53:14. > :53:18.and you can be positive and happy. Is it young people, kids,

:53:19. > :53:22.middle-aged people? I have had a lot of different people, a lot of young

:53:23. > :53:27.people and older people who did not know my circumstances be for. Or

:53:28. > :53:34.people who had known my parents and they have really reached out to

:53:35. > :53:39.support me and allowed me to know I have helped someone by sharing the

:53:40. > :53:43.letter as well, which was my desire. You talk about the period of time

:53:44. > :53:50.when you felt you had to hide what was going on at home. Absolutely. As

:53:51. > :53:55.a young person you are very easily embarrassed and you want to try and

:53:56. > :53:59.be this person who seems perfect and your life is perfect and everything

:54:00. > :54:04.flows nicely and no one needs to know anything negative about your

:54:05. > :54:09.life. I kept that persona for a long time and bottle it up. I felt like I

:54:10. > :54:14.wanted to share the letter because it was time for me to speak about

:54:15. > :54:19.how I felt and to tell others it was time for them to speak about how

:54:20. > :54:23.they felt as well. Although I might not know them, they can come to me

:54:24. > :54:29.for any advice they might need as a friend for support. At 14, in the

:54:30. > :54:36.middle of high school, you stop living with your parents. Where did

:54:37. > :54:42.you go? I lived with various family members and friends. That was on the

:54:43. > :54:48.recommendation of social workers. Yes. What did they say? They said my

:54:49. > :54:52.dad was not able to care for us any more and he was in a bad place with

:54:53. > :54:58.his difficulties and it was better for my brother and I to move away

:54:59. > :55:02.from that. I had continuous support from family and friends who loved me

:55:03. > :55:06.so much and took me in and they have shown me a level of care that was

:55:07. > :55:10.not necessary for them to give me, that my parents would have given me,

:55:11. > :55:17.but they have continued to support me which I am extremely grateful

:55:18. > :55:20.for. Chelsea Cameron. You can watch the full 15 minutes interview with

:55:21. > :55:34.her again and share it by going to our programme page. Get that share

:55:35. > :55:35.on Facebook, Twitter and everywhere. So many messages from you.

:55:36. > :55:39.E-mail from Yvonne, "Chelsea is an amazing young woman.

:55:40. > :55:41.I would be proud to call her my daughter.

:55:42. > :55:43.I wish her every success in her life".

:55:44. > :55:45.E-mail from Margaret, "I've never responded to a TV

:55:46. > :55:48.programme before but wow what a fantastic positive role model

:55:49. > :55:53.I wish the very best future for you Chelsea.

:55:54. > :56:08.What a fantastic, positive role model says John. Pat, I am so

:56:09. > :56:13.impressed and deeply moved by the bravery, courage and compassion

:56:14. > :56:17.shown by this lovely young women. My own family has been affected by the

:56:18. > :56:21.nightmare which drug addiction brings. It is hard to have a normal

:56:22. > :56:26.life when one of your family has to face each addicted today. Thank you,

:56:27. > :56:29.Chelsea, not only because your family still have your love, but

:56:30. > :56:35.because of the young people who might turn to the relief of drug use

:56:36. > :56:40.which could so quickly turn to a life without opportunity, a life

:56:41. > :56:45.outside normal society, a life of shame and pain. What a girl, God

:56:46. > :56:50.bless her. This is from Helen. Like the rest of your audience I was

:56:51. > :56:57.blown away by Chelsea Cameron. She is a total inspiration. I am

:56:58. > :57:00.currently writing a musical with two award-winning script writers about

:57:01. > :57:05.another inspirational, real-life character. I am a composer and

:57:06. > :57:11.songwriter. But I would like to dedicate one of the songs from it to

:57:12. > :57:16.the wonderful Chelsea Cameron. How amazing is that? Helen, we could not

:57:17. > :57:21.get in touch with you to talk on the programme. That is an amazing idea,

:57:22. > :57:23.we will make sure that Chelsea knows what you want to do. That is

:57:24. > :57:37.fantastic. On Monday we are going to look at

:57:38. > :57:43.the NHS and look at all the issues it is facing right now and look at

:57:44. > :57:48.your help for solutions. If you work in the NHS, whatever role at all, or

:57:49. > :57:53.have recently been treated on the NHS, or someone you know has, we

:57:54. > :57:58.would love you to take part in the programme. It is in London this

:57:59. > :58:03.Monday on February the 6th. E-mail us to let us know you are interested

:58:04. > :58:05.in coming along and we will be in touch. Thank you for your company.

:58:06. > :58:32.Have a good day. To be in the Lords,

:58:33. > :58:35.you have to be punctual... Sometimes you really do literally

:58:36. > :58:38.have to slam the door What right do they have to tell

:58:39. > :58:47.me about my fashion sense? Can you now control

:58:48. > :58:50.your bad language?