09/02/2017

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello, it's Thursday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

:00:11. > :00:17.A waiting times in English hospitals are longer than ever -

:00:18. > :00:20.leaked figures show last month was the worse since targets

:00:21. > :00:29.We will try to find solutions in the next hour of the programme.

:00:30. > :00:32.Also today, evidence that a new law designed to stop rogue landlords

:00:33. > :00:35.We have an exclusive report on the vulnerable people

:00:36. > :00:37.still being made homeless when they complain about

:00:38. > :00:46.They checked the property, they agreed it was damp and something

:00:47. > :00:52.needed to be done, so they wrote to our landlord and within a week of

:00:53. > :00:55.him receiving that, we received a Section 21 is eviction notice to

:00:56. > :00:59.pushed under our door. An exclusive report to come.

:01:00. > :01:08.Last year we took the former refugee Lord Dubs to visit migrant children

:01:09. > :01:23.I'm a refugee, I came to England at the age of six.

:01:24. > :01:25.He campaigned for more to be brought to the UK.

:01:26. > :01:28.Today he reacts to a Government decision to stop receiving children

:01:29. > :01:33.under the scheme he championed, calling it "shameful".

:01:34. > :01:36.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:01:37. > :01:41.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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:01:44. > :01:46.Our top story today - Accident and Emergency departments

:01:47. > :01:48.in England had their worst waiting time performance last

:01:49. > :01:51.month since targets were introduced 13 years ago.

:01:52. > :01:55.Provisional figures leaked to the BBC also suggest that record

:01:56. > :01:57.numbers of patients have had to wait on trolleys for a bed

:01:58. > :02:00.The Department of Health insists the vast majority of patients

:02:01. > :02:07.Our health correspondent Dominic Hughes has more.

:02:08. > :02:09.For months now, Accident and Emergency departments

:02:10. > :02:16.Last week, the BBC was given exclusive access

:02:17. > :02:18.to the Royal Blackburn Hospital, where the pressure

:02:19. > :02:29.More patient and a shortage of beds mean long waits.

:02:30. > :02:31.New data leaked from the NHS suggests it's a similar

:02:32. > :02:35.Provisional figures appear to show that last month 82%

:02:36. > :02:37.of patients were treated, admitted, and discharged

:02:38. > :02:38.within four hours - the worst performance

:02:39. > :02:48.since the target of 95% was produced in 2004.

:02:49. > :02:51.780 patients waited more than 12 hours for a bed after being admitted

:02:52. > :02:54.to hospital by a doctor, known as a trolley wait.

:02:55. > :03:03.And more than 60,000 waited between four and 12 hours,

:03:04. > :03:07.If the figures are correct, it shows the degree

:03:08. > :03:12.Despite huge efforts from 1.4 million staff,

:03:13. > :03:14.the NHS is really struggling to cope with extra demand,

:03:15. > :03:18.These figures are the worst since the four-hour A

:03:19. > :03:26.They just show how much pressure the service is under.

:03:27. > :03:29.The NHS in Scotland is coping better, but similar issues affect

:03:30. > :03:31.Wales and Northern Ireland, symptoms of the pressures building

:03:32. > :03:41.NHS sources acknowledge the system is facing unprecedented demand.

:03:42. > :03:44.And these latest figures suggest there is little sign of a respite.

:03:45. > :03:53.Dr Faye Kirkland is a journalist who's also still working as a GP.

:03:54. > :04:02.How bad is it? They appear to show the worst performance in England

:04:03. > :04:07.since records began 13 years ago, so the number of patients, 82%,

:04:08. > :04:11.admitted, discharge or transferred towards from A within four hours,

:04:12. > :04:17.but the target of 95% of people getting that treatment within four

:04:18. > :04:21.hours, to be either admitted, transferred or discharged. I wonder

:04:22. > :04:25.if the target doesn't help the Government, then? Occasionally you

:04:26. > :04:31.hear conversations about them scrapping or redefining that target?

:04:32. > :04:40.The target has not been met since July 2000 15. The Royal College of

:04:41. > :04:42.Emergency Medicine has been clear they don't think it should change

:04:43. > :04:42.because it is the standard of care expected for patients in the. Thank

:04:43. > :04:43.you very much. Ben Brown is in the BBC

:04:44. > :04:45.Newsroom with a summary Ben Brown is in the BBC

:04:46. > :04:53.Newsroom with a summary Downing Street is playing down

:04:54. > :04:56.a threat from a Government source that the House of Lords could be

:04:57. > :04:59.abolished if Peers try to block Brexit secretary David Davis has

:05:00. > :05:02.called on Peers to 'do their patriotic duty' after MPs

:05:03. > :05:04.overwhelmingly backed the Bill allowing the Government

:05:05. > :05:07.to start the process of leaving Here's our political

:05:08. > :05:09.correspondent Tom Bateman. MPs gave their overwhelming support

:05:10. > :05:14.for Theresa May's plan to get and it got through with a large

:05:15. > :05:28.majority every turn. It has carried out the will

:05:29. > :05:30.of the British people. That's what Parliament

:05:31. > :05:39.has done today. And it's put through a bill

:05:40. > :05:42.which is very simple, just 137 words long,

:05:43. > :05:44.authorising us to do The Scottish National Party fought

:05:45. > :05:51.the bill all the way. They lost, but they sung

:05:52. > :05:54.the European Union's The threat of a Conservative

:05:55. > :06:03.rebellion fell away, but 52 Labour MPs, including shadow

:06:04. > :06:05.Cabinet member Clive Lewis, defied Jeremy Corbyn

:06:06. > :06:09.to vote against the bill. Mr Lewis resigned moments before the

:06:10. > :06:12.vote. Lib Dems called for

:06:13. > :06:15.a referendum on the exit deal. What you have done is allow

:06:16. > :06:22.a stitch-up, the 21st century equivalent of

:06:23. > :06:25.smoke-filled rooms. 80% of people will be dissatisfied

:06:26. > :06:28.with what is imposed upon them. Theresa May left after

:06:29. > :06:30.the vote clearing a first Now the bill goes to the House

:06:31. > :06:36.of Lords, where it may need With us now is our assistant

:06:37. > :06:46.political editor Norman Smith. As Tom was suggesting, all eyes now

:06:47. > :06:49.on the House of Lords. And the signs are that the vote in

:06:50. > :06:53.the Commons may make the Government's task easier in the

:06:54. > :06:58.House of Lords because Mrs May has secured a stonking great majority,

:06:59. > :07:02.more than 370 MPs backing her Brexit Bill and significantly not a single

:07:03. > :07:08.amendment passed during the two weeks of debate in the Commons,

:07:09. > :07:12.which means peers will be much more reluctant to try and significantly

:07:13. > :07:16.amend or delay the bill, added to which the Government initially

:07:17. > :07:20.seemed to be taking a pretty hobnailed boot strategy to the House

:07:21. > :07:24.of Lords with Government sources saying, if they seek to frustrate

:07:25. > :07:27.the bill, then they could be signing in effect their own death warrant,

:07:28. > :07:33.because there would be massive pressure to abolish the House of

:07:34. > :07:37.Lords. This morning however, a complete rethink. The view in

:07:38. > :07:41.Government circles is that sort of language simply risks fuelling

:07:42. > :07:45.opposition in the House of Lords, so now is very different tone from

:07:46. > :07:50.Number Ten saying, we understand peers have a legitimate right to

:07:51. > :07:53.debate and scrutinise this legislation, so perhaps a degree of

:07:54. > :07:59.nervousness, uncertainty about how to handle the House of Lords.

:08:00. > :08:04.And rumours about the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn possibly thinking of

:08:05. > :08:08.standing down, swirling around Westminster, he has been stamping on

:08:09. > :08:14.those rumours this morning? This morning Mr Corbyn described

:08:15. > :08:18.such reports as " fake news", absolute nonsense. He said the

:08:19. > :08:23.decision of Clive Lewis, Shadow Business Secretary, to walk, has led

:08:24. > :08:27.people to think that Mr Corbyn could be vulnerable and there is

:08:28. > :08:31.considerable disquiet in the party over his whole handling of the

:08:32. > :08:37.Brexit debate. One of Ed Miliband's closest aides Stu Woodward has just

:08:38. > :08:42.put up a tweet after last night's vote. " no space this feels a bit

:08:43. > :08:45.like Monty Python and the holy Grail when the Black Knight has had his

:08:46. > :08:51.limbs cut off and says, all right, we will call it a draw.

:08:52. > :08:57." a lot of Labour people think Mr Corbyn has taken the wrong approach

:08:58. > :08:59.to Brexit by backing Mrs May's bill. Norman, thank you.

:09:00. > :09:02.The US Senate has backed one of President Trump's most

:09:03. > :09:03.controversial cabinet nominees, Jeff Sessions, as Attorney General.

:09:04. > :09:06.More than 30 years ago, Mr Sessions was denied

:09:07. > :09:08.a post as a federal judge when he was accused of racism,

:09:09. > :09:13.He will now take charge of the Justice Department and more

:09:14. > :09:22.than 100,000 employees, including 93 US attorneys.

:09:23. > :09:25.New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

:09:26. > :09:27.from so-called revenge evictions aren't working, according to MPs

:09:28. > :09:36.A BBC freedom of information request found that there may be hundreds

:09:37. > :09:38.of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

:09:39. > :09:44.faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

:09:45. > :09:47.A Labour peer who campaigned for changes to immigration rules

:09:48. > :09:48.to help unaccompanied migrant children come to Britain,

:09:49. > :09:56.says the Government's decision to stop receiving them is shameful.

:09:57. > :09:57.When the 'Dubs Scheme' was introduced last year,

:09:58. > :09:59.campaigners hoped thousands of children would benefit.

:10:00. > :10:02.By the time the system closes next month, just 350 children

:10:03. > :10:10.It was designed by Lord Dubs, a former refugee who fled Nazi

:10:11. > :10:14.We will be talking to Lord Dubs later this hour.

:10:15. > :10:17.MPs will debate the way the Football Association is run today.

:10:18. > :10:19.The Culture, Media and Sport Committee has tabled a motion

:10:20. > :10:25.of no-confidence in the FA's ability to reform itself.

:10:26. > :10:28.MPs want greater representation for fans, and more diversity in top

:10:29. > :10:41.The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

:10:42. > :10:42.with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

:10:43. > :10:45.She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

:10:46. > :10:49.Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

:10:50. > :10:51.The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

:10:52. > :10:59.Scientists studying the calls of one of our closest ape relatives say

:11:00. > :11:04.they've revealed the origins of the earliest words.

:11:05. > :11:13.The researchers from Durham and Liverpool John Moores Universities

:11:14. > :11:17.recorded and analysed thousands of orangutan squeaks over

:11:18. > :11:21.years to learn how human language began.

:11:22. > :11:25.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:11:26. > :11:33.This on Facebook about A waiting times, my husband was left waiting

:11:34. > :11:38.for seven hours in A with a skull fracture before being sent home with

:11:39. > :11:40.no information about the fracture and only paracetamol for

:11:41. > :11:44.excruciating pain. For reasons unknown in the case has been

:11:45. > :11:49.referred to the Ian nose and throat department but it has been five days

:11:50. > :11:51.and he has not heard from them. Your experiences of NAND, positive

:11:52. > :11:55.ones as well, do let me know. If you text, you will be charged

:11:56. > :11:59.at the standard network rate. Let's get some sport

:12:00. > :12:04.with Hugh Ferris. Leicester City's topsy-turvy season

:12:05. > :12:08.continues? After a vote of confidence on

:12:09. > :12:12.Tuesday, a win on Wednesday, Claudio Ranieri is having a good week.

:12:13. > :12:16.Leicester might be struggling in the Premier League but their FA Cup run

:12:17. > :12:21.goes on thanks to a fourth replay win over championship side Derby,

:12:22. > :12:25.who took it to extra time thanks to that deflected free kick. In the

:12:26. > :12:29.extra 30 minutes, two wonderful goals, first double from a new

:12:30. > :12:34.Leicester signing, then a touch of the Ryan digs about this from tamari

:12:35. > :12:38.grape. Leicester are eventually going through to the fifth round

:12:39. > :12:42.with a 3-1 win. They will play Millwall next, but before that their

:12:43. > :12:49.eyes will be on a big Premier League match against Swansea on Monday.

:12:50. > :13:05.MPs are going to debate whether the Football Association is fit for

:13:06. > :13:11.purpose. This will be part of the culture and sport committee.

:13:12. > :13:15.Why are they doing this? Some people may remember as far back as 1966,

:13:16. > :13:20.two things happened that year, winning the World Cup and also the

:13:21. > :13:24.first report into whether the FA should reform, waiting more than 50

:13:25. > :13:26.years for both of those things to happen again. The Government have

:13:27. > :13:33.increased the pressure by threatening to withdraw up to ?40

:13:34. > :13:37.million of public funding for the FA before this meeting today. It

:13:38. > :13:45.appears to boil down to what former FHM and Greg Dyke has called in the

:13:46. > :13:50.last 24 hours " old men" accused of blocking change, I'm sure they would

:13:51. > :13:56.reject that. The FA parliament is made up of 122 members, 92/60, only

:13:57. > :13:59.eight women as well, so the Government is looking for better

:14:00. > :14:04.diversity, better representation of people who play the game on that

:14:05. > :14:08.council and the current chairman Greg Clark has said he will resign

:14:09. > :14:12.if his plans for reform are not accepted when he puts them to the

:14:13. > :14:17.Government in April. The Winter Olympics is a year away

:14:18. > :14:21.and Britain has said it aims to become one of the top snow sports

:14:22. > :14:26.nations. Yes, the governing body for ski and

:14:27. > :14:31.snowboarding, by 2030, would like Britain to be a top five country,

:14:32. > :14:36.said they have got 13 years to do that. Just a year now and will be

:14:37. > :14:41.2018 Winter Olympics. The overall shift emission of all sports says we

:14:42. > :14:45.should be excited about our metal rack micro-medal chances, four is

:14:46. > :14:51.the best Team GB have managed over the years, also in Sochi time out

:14:52. > :14:55.they managed to get four, but he thinks we have a few chances to get

:14:56. > :14:59.on the podium in South Korea. Investment has doubled to more than

:15:00. > :15:02.?27 million over the last four year cycle so you imagine those funding

:15:03. > :15:06.bodies will be expecting something of a return on that investment.

:15:07. > :15:09.Thank you, more throughout the morning.

:15:10. > :15:11.Our exclusive film today shows some of the absolutely disgusting

:15:12. > :15:14.conditions that people who live in rented accomodatoin live in.

:15:15. > :15:19.And yet a new law designed to exactly those people from rogue

:15:20. > :15:22.That's according to MPs and housing lawyers.

:15:23. > :15:26.Faulty electrics, awful damp and broken boilers that don't get

:15:27. > :15:30.fixed when it's cold are all things that are officially classed

:15:31. > :15:33.as category one hazards which pose a risk to health.

:15:34. > :15:35.But many private tenants are worried that if they complain,

:15:36. > :15:38.or complain too much, they will be evicted.

:15:39. > :15:42.The law in England changed in 2015 to make "revenge evictions" illegal.

:15:43. > :15:45.But despite that, figures gathered by Radio 1 Newsbeat through Freedom

:15:46. > :15:47.of Information requests show that more than half of local

:15:48. > :15:51.councils across England say they haven't stopped any.

:15:52. > :16:03.Here's Dan Whitworth with the exclusive story.

:16:04. > :16:10.Damp, mould, faulty electrics and broken windows and boilers that

:16:11. > :16:12.don't get fixed when it's cold, they're all classed as category one

:16:13. > :16:15.hazards, in other words, they're so bad, they pose a risk

:16:16. > :16:20.These are all things that in many cases ,people living in private

:16:21. > :16:21.rented accommodation complaint of their landlord

:16:22. > :16:30.Helen used to live with her mum, sister and baby daughter

:16:31. > :16:32.in a rented home with lots of problems, including damp.

:16:33. > :16:37.After months of complaining, we got a firm of solicitors

:16:38. > :16:39.in who deal with properties in this state of disrepair.

:16:40. > :16:41.They checked the property and agreed it was damp

:16:42. > :16:50.So they wrote to our landlord, and within a week of him receiving

:16:51. > :16:52.that, we received a section 21 eviction notice pushed

:16:53. > :16:55.Telling you, and your family to get out.

:16:56. > :16:59.What kind of impact did that have on you and your family?

:17:00. > :17:06.We're living about four miles away from each other.

:17:07. > :17:10.At the same time, I'd been suffering really bad ill health as well.

:17:11. > :17:12.So to have that on top of what I was already

:17:13. > :17:17.going through just completely floored me, and the thought

:17:18. > :17:20.of having to live my own that point, I wasn't going to cope.

:17:21. > :17:23.So for the first two months of me having this place,

:17:24. > :17:25.I never really saw it because I was staying

:17:26. > :17:28.on my mum's sofa bed, to keep us together,

:17:29. > :17:31.because I couldn't face not being with my mum

:17:32. > :17:44.Because of what happened to people like Helen,

:17:45. > :17:47.a new rule was introduced in October 2015, to try to stop retaliatory

:17:48. > :17:49.or so-called revenge evictions, but exclusive figures gathered under

:17:50. > :17:52.a Freedom of Information request from hundreds of local authorities

:17:53. > :17:55.across England who have the power to stop them, more than half said

:17:56. > :17:58.More than a quarter said they don't record figures,

:17:59. > :18:04.with fewer than one in five councils taking any action.

:18:05. > :18:06.So, we're just following some housing inspectors

:18:07. > :18:08.from Leeds council, who have set up some inspections

:18:09. > :18:15.They deal specifically with rogue landlords,

:18:16. > :18:17.so we've been told to expect some category one hazards,

:18:18. > :18:20.things like broken windows, boilers that don't get fixed,

:18:21. > :18:22.mould, damp, faulty electrics, things that pose

:18:23. > :18:35.So we will go and have a look and see what we see.

:18:36. > :18:39.What are the type of category one, serious hazards

:18:40. > :18:46.It's going to be entry by intruders, because the front door

:18:47. > :18:51.There's no security, so anyone can walk into there.

:18:52. > :18:53.The boiler is not working so they don't have any

:18:54. > :18:57.The electrics aren't working, so pitch dark.

:18:58. > :19:12.When you say the kitchen facilities, I mean there is a sink there...

:19:13. > :19:14.This is rented out as private rented accommodation

:19:15. > :19:19.People paying to rent here, making complaints, nothing happening

:19:20. > :19:22.and then they could be under the threat of a revenge eviction

:19:23. > :19:26.That's the reason why they are not coming forward to the council

:19:27. > :19:33.Upstairs, there are even more problems.

:19:34. > :19:41.That's damp that's been leaking from outside the guttering.

:19:42. > :19:57.When you look up close to this, I describe that as mould,

:19:58. > :20:07.Clearly it looks terrible, and this is all from a leak outside?

:20:08. > :20:12.It's not been fixed and the water is coming through.

:20:13. > :20:23.Paul has lived here for nearly six years.

:20:24. > :20:26.He didn't want to show his face on camera because he's embarrassed

:20:27. > :20:29.He'd never make repairs, the landlord.

:20:30. > :20:31.The skylight has been broken three or four years.

:20:32. > :20:43.The boiler's been packed in now, just won't fixed it.

:20:44. > :20:44.So we've just heard Paul's story that.

:20:45. > :20:48.The scariest thing about all of this is Paul's story is one of many.

:20:49. > :20:51.There are 9 million people living in private rented accommodation.

:20:52. > :20:59.Of those, 30% are classed as a non-decent standard.

:21:00. > :21:07.Fair enough, that is a pretty exceptionally bad case,

:21:08. > :21:15.but there are many, many people just like Paul, too worried

:21:16. > :21:16.in fact to complain, because if they complain

:21:17. > :21:18.to their landlord, they may get evicted.

:21:19. > :21:21.If they get evicted, they have nowhere else to go

:21:22. > :21:26.Clive Betts is the chair and communities and local government

:21:27. > :21:28.committee so he holds the government to account

:21:29. > :21:32.Bearing in mind more than half of local authorities across England

:21:33. > :21:35.say they haven't stopped any revenge eviction is, is this law working?

:21:36. > :21:39.I can't believe that there are that number of authorities where no

:21:40. > :21:43.one has been subject to a revenge eviction.

:21:44. > :21:46.And we know there are many good landlords out there,

:21:47. > :21:48.who will never be worried about revenge eviction

:21:49. > :21:56.is from, because they won't operate like that.

:21:57. > :21:59.If repairs need doing, they'll carry out them in a proper manner.

:22:00. > :22:01.We talking about here trying to avoid carrying

:22:02. > :22:03.out their responsibilities as a landlord, to keep

:22:04. > :22:05.their properties in a good state of repair, and if that asked

:22:06. > :22:08.a simple question like, will you do will prepare for me,

:22:09. > :22:10.they threaten someone with an eviction to shut them up.

:22:11. > :22:13.They are the landlords we have to get at and they sometimes

:22:14. > :22:15.have the worst properties with people living in

:22:16. > :22:18.That's the biggest challenge for everybody.

:22:19. > :22:20.You have a position of power and influence within Parliament.

:22:21. > :22:22.You are chair of a select committee that is responsible

:22:23. > :22:26.There's a guy living in this flat and his window,

:22:27. > :22:30.What can you say, this chap's name is Paul.

:22:31. > :22:32.The landlord is refusing to fix things like this.

:22:33. > :22:34.What needs to happen there, we shouldn't just be

:22:35. > :22:36.stopping revenge evictions, we should be prosecuted

:22:37. > :22:38.landlords for letting properties in that condition.

:22:39. > :22:41.We got in touch with the Government for comment on this story

:22:42. > :22:43.and a spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government

:22:44. > :22:49.They said revenge evictions are rare and because of the new law,

:22:50. > :22:51.it's given local councils all the powers they

:22:52. > :22:59.Back on the road with Leeds Council, our final visit is to Lizzie's home.

:23:00. > :23:01.Faulty electrics, the lights clearly not working...

:23:02. > :23:04.Her landlord is the same as Paul's, who we heard from earlier.

:23:05. > :23:08.Hang on a minute, I don't know if you can see this,

:23:09. > :23:10.but there's a gap about 2-3 centimetres where the

:23:11. > :23:25.It's not just there, it's that whole wall.

:23:26. > :23:33.Again, not pulling anything out, but I can see the damp goes right

:23:34. > :23:36.the way from the skirting board pretty much to the very top.

:23:37. > :23:39.It's unfair and I can't bring people back to the house because I feel

:23:40. > :23:41.embarrassed to bring them back to the house.

:23:42. > :23:44.When I first came here, I didn't want to move

:23:45. > :23:46.in because I saw the state of the front door.

:23:47. > :23:51.I don't really want keep complaining, because he might end up

:23:52. > :23:54.going to me, if you keep complaining, out you go.

:23:55. > :23:57.What would happen to you if you did get evicted,

:23:58. > :24:01.Straight up, didn't miss a heartbeat, worried

:24:02. > :24:05.Yes, because I've been on the streets and it's not nice.

:24:06. > :24:12.I've been on the streets and it is horrible.

:24:13. > :24:17.So that's obviously why you don't want to complain too much,

:24:18. > :24:25.because that's the other option for you.

:24:26. > :24:31.Well. You can find out more about the issue on the BBC News beat

:24:32. > :24:34.website. Let's speak to Labour's Shadow

:24:35. > :24:37.Housing Minister John Healey, and Barbara Dickson who was evicted

:24:38. > :24:41.along with her husband, by their private landlord,

:24:42. > :24:43.after she complained when she found hidden cameras and microphones

:24:44. > :24:54.in her ceiling and floors. Which is the most astonishing story

:24:55. > :24:58.in itself. First of all I would like you to give some reaction to the

:24:59. > :25:03.conditions we saw in that film? I think that's horrific but it's more

:25:04. > :25:06.common than people realise. I think people are being taken advantage of

:25:07. > :25:11.because they are afraid to complain. A lot of people are living like this

:25:12. > :25:14.because of fear, it is then easy difficult to find a replacement

:25:15. > :25:19.place to live so you put up with whatever you have to do. I think it

:25:20. > :25:24.is more common than... I think that's the tip of the iceberg. There

:25:25. > :25:26.have been estimates there are probably 200,000 people who suffer

:25:27. > :25:32.from revenge evictions each year. It's not just about the home. We saw

:25:33. > :25:36.with Helen how it breaks up families. We saw with Liz how

:25:37. > :25:40.frightened people are. Home is where you want to feel safe and warm. It's

:25:41. > :25:45.where you want to retreat to, from the world. It's the heart of all our

:25:46. > :25:57.lives. When people can't even have that sort of basic security, those

:25:58. > :26:00.basic standards, then the law is not working and we have to do a great

:26:01. > :26:02.deal more. We will come back to that in a moment. Barbara, tell our

:26:03. > :26:05.audience what happened. We had a leak coming from our season, it was

:26:06. > :26:08.like a shower level of water coming through on the landlord wasn't

:26:09. > :26:10.around to be able to assist us. My husband climbed into the roof to

:26:11. > :26:13.turn the water off because that's where it was an that's where we

:26:14. > :26:17.found all the cameras and microphones at the house. There was

:26:18. > :26:22.a camera in just about every room in our flat, including our bedroom, the

:26:23. > :26:26.bathroom, everywhere. When you said to the landlord, hello, what did he

:26:27. > :26:32.say? Neuer we got an eviction notice the next day. How many days later?

:26:33. > :26:40.The next day. It was taped to our front door. You might describe that

:26:41. > :26:44.as a revenge evictions? Absolutely, no doubt. You called the police,

:26:45. > :26:47.what did you think they could do? I thought they would investigate the

:26:48. > :26:51.cameras being present or speaking to the landlord but they weren't

:26:52. > :26:55.interested at all. They thought it was a domestic situation and were

:26:56. > :27:02.prepared to intervene. This is before the legislation for

:27:03. > :27:05.empowering councils. If it had been in place would you have gone to the

:27:06. > :27:09.Council and asked for help? I don't think anyone is willing to do

:27:10. > :27:13.anything. Despite this talk about this desire to assist and help

:27:14. > :27:17.people, I think in the end of the land both can go to court and have

:27:18. > :27:19.you removed irrespective of if the council intervene or not. That's

:27:20. > :27:24.where the issue lies. The issue according to Barbara is with

:27:25. > :27:27.councils. People are willing to go to them because they are still

:27:28. > :27:30.scared. Councils have the power is now enshrined in law but they are

:27:31. > :27:37.not using them. People are scared and that is quite clear. It is quite

:27:38. > :27:41.a complicated law. Councils could only have stepped in and Barbara's

:27:42. > :27:45.case if she complained in writing to the landlord, the landlord refused

:27:46. > :27:50.to do anything about it, she then notified formally the council and

:27:51. > :27:54.the council then served an official written improvement notice. That's

:27:55. > :27:58.not complicated, it's really straightforward. May be time

:27:59. > :28:02.consuming. You needed to act quickly. Complications is one part

:28:03. > :28:06.of it. Councils aren't acting when half of them haven't stopped a

:28:07. > :28:09.single revenge evictions. Nobody believes it isn't happening

:28:10. > :28:15.everywhere. I think the real thing is not to try and deal with the

:28:16. > :28:18.symptoms but the causes. That means, I think, new, tougher legal

:28:19. > :28:24.standards for the homes that private landlords rent. It just isn't good

:28:25. > :28:26.enough that we haven't got a law requiring landlords to make sure

:28:27. > :28:31.it's fit for human habitation without some of those problems.

:28:32. > :28:34.Secondly, I think longer minimum tenancies because longer tenancies

:28:35. > :28:38.build in the sort of protections and rights that aren't there in this

:28:39. > :28:43.case. Minimum tenancies is something the government is trying to address,

:28:44. > :28:47.with that housing white paper it published the other day. I want to

:28:48. > :28:52.ask you about the Brexit vote last night. Can I just be clear about

:28:53. > :28:55.that? There is a huge gap between their rhetoric on their record. What

:28:56. > :29:02.they announced this week was that they will work with people who are

:29:03. > :29:06.building new homes, full rent. I know, incentives. That won't help

:29:07. > :29:10.any of the 11 million current renters, it won't help the people in

:29:11. > :29:12.the report that we saw, not just in Leeds but across the country. The

:29:13. > :29:16.government has to be prepared to act. When it was put to the

:29:17. > :29:21.Communities Secretary this week in the House of Commons that we needed

:29:22. > :29:24.this new legal standard requiring homes fit for human standard he

:29:25. > :29:27.described as frivolous and unnecessary. These government

:29:28. > :29:31.ministers don't get what it's like for people. You would expect me to

:29:32. > :29:35.ask about the Brexit vote last night, the historic vote in the

:29:36. > :29:38.Commons. What do you think of your colleagues from Jeremy Corbyn's top

:29:39. > :29:45.team, Clive Lewis, resigning because he could not vote to give the

:29:46. > :29:50.government how to trigger Article 50? He did last week but not last

:29:51. > :29:54.night. What you think? He wants to be able to speak up for his

:29:55. > :29:58.constituents in Norwich and therefore he has resigned from the

:29:59. > :30:01.Shadow Cabinet. If you want to speak for the party nationally from the

:30:02. > :30:05.Shadow Cabinet you have to accept the decision we made, quite rightly,

:30:06. > :30:07.as a national party that we would respect the result of the

:30:08. > :30:11.referendum, respect and recognise the will of the people when they

:30:12. > :30:15.were asked that question about the future and voted for Britain's Lee.

:30:16. > :30:19.This was a very small build we dealt with in the Commons last night,

:30:20. > :30:23.giving the Prime Minister the authority of Parliament to start the

:30:24. > :30:27.negotiations. Some were surprised there weren't more labour rebels.

:30:28. > :30:32.Youth campaign to remain in the European Union. Are you scared now

:30:33. > :30:37.to speak up? No, it's a basic question of respecting the democracy

:30:38. > :30:40.that we supported and respected in the referendum. You can't ask people

:30:41. > :30:45.for their view, get that view and say I'm sorry, we are going to

:30:46. > :30:51.ignore that. It is right that most Labour MPs voted to back this bill.

:30:52. > :30:54.The much bigger role of Parliament comes next, that is about

:30:55. > :31:00.challenging the Prime Minister about the aims for had negotiations,

:31:01. > :31:06.challenged her on how well she's doing and out to people what Britain

:31:07. > :31:09.beyond Brexit looks like. For a Labour Party, we have a very

:31:10. > :31:14.different view of what is needed in the future than the Conservative.

:31:15. > :31:15.Thank you very much. Labour's Johnny Leota Barbara Dickson. Thank you for

:31:16. > :31:18.coming on the programme. A departments are well behind

:31:19. > :31:26.their targets for waiting times. We'll be taking a look

:31:27. > :31:36.at how they are coping And trying to talk about what

:31:37. > :31:39.solutions health professionals might come up with if they were in charge.

:31:40. > :31:46.Labour peer and former child refugeee Lord Dubs reacts

:31:47. > :31:51.to a Government decision to stop receiving children under

:31:52. > :31:52.the scheme he championed, calling it 'shameful'.

:31:53. > :31:53.We will speak to him live in the next half an hour.

:31:54. > :31:55.Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:31:56. > :31:58.Accident and Emergency departments in England had their worst waiting

:31:59. > :31:59.time performance last month since targets were

:32:00. > :32:04.Provisional figures leaked to the BBC also suggest that record

:32:05. > :32:07.numbers of patients have had to wait on trolleys for a bed

:32:08. > :32:10.The Department of Health insists the vast majority of patients

:32:11. > :32:23.Tomorrow on the BBC News Channel, we'll be answering your questions

:32:24. > :32:26.and listening to your suggestions on how the NHS can tackle

:32:27. > :32:28.the looming financial shortfall and deal with the challenges that

:32:29. > :32:30.obese and ageing parts of the population are

:32:31. > :32:33.We'll be getting experts to answer your questions and respond

:32:34. > :32:42.Please get in touch by text or send an email or contact us

:32:43. > :32:45.via Twitter using the hashtag #BBCAskThis.

:32:46. > :32:47.Downing Street has attempted to play down an earlier threat

:32:48. > :32:51.by a Government source that the House of Lords could be

:32:52. > :32:53.abolished if peers tried to block the Government's bill to begin

:32:54. > :32:56.Last night, the Commons backed the legislation

:32:57. > :33:10.More than 50 Labour MPs defied Jeremy Corbyn

:33:11. > :33:17.New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

:33:18. > :33:20.from so-called "revenge evictions" aren't working, according to MPs

:33:21. > :33:25.A BBC Freedom of Information request found that there may be hundreds

:33:26. > :33:28.of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

:33:29. > :33:30.faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

:33:31. > :33:32.The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

:33:33. > :33:35.with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

:33:36. > :33:38.She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

:33:39. > :33:45.Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

:33:46. > :33:48.The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

:33:49. > :33:52.An Australian man has survived spending hours struggling

:33:53. > :33:56.to keep his nose above water after his excavator

:33:57. > :34:08.Daniel Miller had been riding the machine at his remote property

:34:09. > :34:10.north of Sydney, when the edge of the dam gave way

:34:11. > :34:18.and he was pinned down by the three-tonne excavator.

:34:19. > :34:21.He said he adopted a yoga pose and spent the whole time

:34:22. > :34:23.thinking about his wife and their two young children.

:34:24. > :34:26.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

:34:27. > :34:33.Some comments about slum landlords, Kenneth says, why our local MPs not

:34:34. > :34:50.naming and shaming them? Sean says, the film was magnificent, a la it is

:34:51. > :34:50.the tip of the iceberg, it is like Victorian times.

:34:51. > :34:50.Your own experiences are welcome, we will talk more on that after 10am

:34:51. > :34:51.and we will feed your experiences will talk more on that after 10am

:34:52. > :34:52.into that conversation if you get in touch with us.

:34:53. > :34:54.Let's get the sport now. Leicester are flirting with

:34:55. > :34:57.relegation in the Premier League but they are through to the fifth round

:34:58. > :35:13.of the FA Cup after beating Derby 3-1. This deflected free kick forced

:35:14. > :35:17.the extra period. This goal was matched by Demaret grey. It sends

:35:18. > :35:21.them to the fifth round, and a tie with Millwall.

:35:22. > :35:24.MPs will debate the Football Association's failure to reform

:35:25. > :35:28.following a vote of no-confidence. Parliament will examine whether the

:35:29. > :35:31.FA is fit for purpose as it currently stands.

:35:32. > :35:35.Britain is aiming to become one of the world's top five skiing and

:35:36. > :35:39.snowboarding nations by 2030. The Winter Olympics in South Korea start

:35:40. > :35:43.a year today, Great Britain could achieve its best ever games

:35:44. > :35:48.according to UK Sport. And Tiger Woods has said he will

:35:49. > :35:52.never feel great game. He has had two back operations, coming back

:35:53. > :35:56.from 15 months out after the last one. He had to force out of the

:35:57. > :35:59.Dubai Desert Classic because of back spasms and admitted there have been

:36:00. > :36:02.times he did not think it would be able to return to golf.

:36:03. > :36:05.Those are the headlines, more after 10am.

:36:06. > :36:07.Waiting times in A departments in England are longer than ever.

:36:08. > :36:10.Anecdotal reports of patients on trolleys,

:36:11. > :36:14.waiting hours to be seen, have now been backed up

:36:15. > :36:22.And they're the worst since targets were introduced 13 years ago.

:36:23. > :36:24.On Monday, an audience of 80 NHS staff and patients from around

:36:25. > :36:28.the UK joined our programme to talk about the state of the NHS.

:36:29. > :36:30.We invited doctors, patients, nurses and politicians to come

:36:31. > :36:32.together and discuss where things are going wrong, and what the future

:36:33. > :36:40.I'm representing the senior tier of commissions on the shop floor in

:36:41. > :36:44.saying we cannot provide safe care any more for patients. We are being

:36:45. > :36:48.forced to make really dangerous decisions every day, the pressures

:36:49. > :36:52.are unfathomable and we are heartbroken, exacerbated and

:36:53. > :36:56.demoralised. The NHS must be managed by people that have been within the

:36:57. > :37:02.system, that know the system and they understand the system. I a

:37:03. > :37:08.brother who has spent an extra five weeks in hospital and an extra five

:37:09. > :37:13.weeks in a nursing home when he has actually got home of his own, he

:37:14. > :37:18.just needs his social care package to be able to go back to where he

:37:19. > :37:26.wants to be, back in the home. It must so frustrating. Very. We need

:37:27. > :37:30.more GPs, we need more doctors, we need more funding. In my case,

:37:31. > :37:36.talking for old people, we shouldn't have to go and queue up for half an

:37:37. > :37:42.hour or an hour to get to see a GP. We would like consistency,

:37:43. > :37:46.stability. We don't want to be changing doctors every time we go to

:37:47. > :37:49.the surgery. Three years ago I was diagnosed with depression, anxiety,

:37:50. > :37:53.unfortunately the NHS could do nothing for me, I had to spend ?4000

:37:54. > :37:58.of my own money, without spending that money, I'm not lying, I'm not

:37:59. > :38:02.sure if I would be here today. This concept of charging is already

:38:03. > :38:06.happening, 6000 people a year kill themselves. Every time we run a

:38:07. > :38:12.programme, one person will have killed themselves. We have to take

:38:13. > :38:15.mental health seriously and commit to spend the money we say we will

:38:16. > :38:18.commit because we are not doing it. On the 8th of October, my

:38:19. > :38:23.26-year-old daughter went into hospital to have her baby, and she

:38:24. > :38:30.died during childbirth. The baby, they wanted us to switch off the

:38:31. > :38:35.machine the same day she died, she survived, she is 16 months, she has

:38:36. > :38:42.a Grade three brain injury and she is blind. I just want to say that we

:38:43. > :38:46.didn't anticipate that happening. She walked into hospital, she went

:38:47. > :38:52.on the 7th of October, she was sent home. We were told that if everybody

:38:53. > :39:01.came in at one centimetre dilated then the hospital wards would be

:39:02. > :39:06.full. She had an underlying problem which was seen on three scans and

:39:07. > :39:14.not acted upon because they were not sure what it was. That cost her her

:39:15. > :39:23.life. And I would just like to... I would like to say that... How many

:39:24. > :39:27.lives are going to go? My name is Jess, I'm an A doctor. I have to

:39:28. > :39:32.agree with you, I stand on the front I'm the person who gets assaulted,

:39:33. > :39:36.sexually assaulted in NAND by drug people. I was a medical student, you

:39:37. > :39:41.see us on TV, we go and get drunk all the time, I have never ended up

:39:42. > :39:45.in A, none of us have, and I have never left my friends behind on the

:39:46. > :39:51.side of the road drug, which people do now. We should be charging them!

:39:52. > :39:57.It costs inordinate amount of money, ?300 every time we send LAS to pick

:39:58. > :40:02.somebody up of the side of the road. Just walking into NAND is ?100 to

:40:03. > :40:06.register you, it is a waste of money and it is ridiculous. I was then

:40:07. > :40:10.told the drugs I need are not funded by the NHS in Wales. They are

:40:11. > :40:13.currently funded in England but are being withdrawn from England as

:40:14. > :40:15.well. I'm having to fund raise to pay for the drugs to keep me alive

:40:16. > :40:18.to be here for my children. Some examples of things

:40:19. > :40:20.going wrong - by the way, there were some very positive

:40:21. > :40:22.stories too, but today We've brought together Maria Gilroy,

:40:23. > :40:36.a senior site nurse practitioner, Eren Ozagir, the founder

:40:37. > :40:38.of Push Doctor which puts patients and doctors in touch over the web,

:40:39. > :40:48.and Sarah Gorton the deputy head Huge question, if you were in charge

:40:49. > :40:53.of the NHS in England, where would you start? The first thing to say is

:40:54. > :40:58.the NHS is full of great teams... We absolutely know that, we take that

:40:59. > :41:01.as read. But even winning teams struggle in difficult circumstances

:41:02. > :41:05.and the odds are definitely stacked against them so it is time for a

:41:06. > :41:08.change of tactics. I think there are three things that could really

:41:09. > :41:12.change the situation. Give me your first one and let's see what the

:41:13. > :41:16.others think. The first is a difficult conversation about

:41:17. > :41:18.funding. In the very short-term, an immediate cash injection to get us

:41:19. > :41:22.through what used to be called Winter pressure and is now

:41:23. > :41:27.year-round normal pressure for the NHS. Secondly, it is to talk about

:41:28. > :41:32.longer term sustainable funding solution for the NHS. So that is a

:41:33. > :41:39.conversation between politicians of all parties and voters? We talked

:41:40. > :41:41.about this on Monday, do we look at increasing national Insurance

:41:42. > :41:46.contributions, at increasing income tax, and be bothered, it is the

:41:47. > :41:49.wrong question, it is things about the Government, don't build a just

:41:50. > :41:55.do, don't replace Trident. Where are you on that? For me, funding is

:41:56. > :41:58.important but to be think about it in a different way, efficiencies and

:41:59. > :42:02.application, we are a technology business and we bring technology to

:42:03. > :42:07.medics and help them operate more efficiently. Here is one example,

:42:08. > :42:10.they could place set in the current system in a simple way and increase

:42:11. > :42:14.the number of GP appointments which in theory should reduce the number

:42:15. > :42:20.of people heading to A particularly over Christmas. 46,000

:42:21. > :42:25.GPs in the UK, we have reduced admin Time from 45%, which is the time

:42:26. > :42:29.spent on paperwork in the NHS, to just 9%, which frees up two

:42:30. > :42:33.appointment and hour per doctor, in a day half a million GP appointments

:42:34. > :42:42.that could be back online for patients to come and interact with a

:42:43. > :42:45.doctor and start to solve the issues or at least talk to someone and get

:42:46. > :42:48.the advice they need. That is the technology option, what did you

:42:49. > :42:51.think? On Monday we were speaking about social care and Jon Ashworth

:42:52. > :42:56.said about bringing the funding forward but that was agreed by the

:42:57. > :43:01.Conservative MP that was there and I think that is an emergency response

:43:02. > :43:06.and has to happen. So, like Sarah, short-term cash injection. More

:43:07. > :43:10.broadly, what do you think? We have to look at Stav, recruitment and

:43:11. > :43:14.retention. Over the last year, stuff like nurses and doctors are

:43:15. > :43:19.completely demoralised, treated really badly by the Government. What

:43:20. > :43:24.would you do in terms of boosting morale, if you were England's Health

:43:25. > :43:29.Secretary? I would reverse the mistakes Jeremy Hunt has made, bring

:43:30. > :43:34.bursaries back for nursing. Junior doctor contract, go back to the

:43:35. > :43:38.table, it is not working. We have had a huge exodus of doctors out of

:43:39. > :43:42.the country since this contract... I'm not sure we have had a huge

:43:43. > :43:51.exodus, I know people threatened to leave. I think we have, I think it

:43:52. > :43:54.is evident, I go and see my consultant and last time I went I

:43:55. > :43:59.waited 2.5 hours, which does not bother me, it is a busy clinic, and

:44:00. > :44:04.when I went in she said, I'm sorry, we cannot get any middle grades,

:44:05. > :44:09.like registrar, below registrar, that are not on a training number.

:44:10. > :44:15.Other people in different oncology department said the same thing to

:44:16. > :44:18.me. They cannot get the staff. If the Government reversed the decision

:44:19. > :44:23.on nursing bursaries, for example, it would not fill the hole now,

:44:24. > :44:29.would it? It might in 12 months, 24 months, three, four years. What

:44:30. > :44:33.about now, what could you do today? It is Catch-22, to be honest. We

:44:34. > :44:38.could say, let overstaffed, make provision for having too many staff

:44:39. > :44:44.in the hope we will get a number that is workable. But we simply

:44:45. > :44:52.don't have those staff available now. It is temp staff, then? We

:44:53. > :44:55.don't have them available. We have 55,000 people from EU countries

:44:56. > :44:58.working in Health and Social Care Committee all of those people are

:44:59. > :45:02.not sure of their status so confirming that they have the right

:45:03. > :45:06.to stay would definitely help. Sorting out problems with the

:45:07. > :45:11.bursary, doing something to make staff feel valued, so from all, I

:45:12. > :45:14.was talking to a big group of health workers yesterday from different

:45:15. > :45:19.types of jobs and the stories they are all telling are the same. They

:45:20. > :45:27.are working too many hours, they are scared because they are constantly

:45:28. > :45:30.working at full pressure and they are scared about the decisions they

:45:31. > :45:32.are making and not having enough time to do their job properly and

:45:33. > :45:37.safely any more, and they are constantly working long shifts under

:45:38. > :45:41.unbearable pressure, and that used to be just seasonal, it used to be

:45:42. > :45:46.for a few weeks each year, and now it is almost like we are in some

:45:47. > :45:47.kind of Narnia where we are in permanent winter and the NHS is

:45:48. > :45:57.running on those conditions. More staff, bring back bursaries for

:45:58. > :46:03.nursing. We've talked about technology, what else? I think for

:46:04. > :46:07.me the idea that doing the same things, some of the suggestions are

:46:08. > :46:11.to do things we've done in the past, is on and off of the step change to

:46:12. > :46:15.make a dramatic difference to the system. On the treaty before there

:46:16. > :46:18.was a lady saying, we need people from inside the system to come up

:46:19. > :46:23.with solutions. That's not always the case. If you keep internalising

:46:24. > :46:32.the problem, you will end up with very similar answers. Not to go back

:46:33. > :46:33.to the tech thing but having an entrepreneurial approach and

:46:34. > :46:36.allowing private companies to come in, who have run huge amount of

:46:37. > :46:43.numbers of people through shops and stores and online retail, actually

:46:44. > :46:46.can think about problems the NHS are having differently alongside

:46:47. > :46:51.managers. The problem at the moment is nobody is really up for that. The

:46:52. > :46:56.minute a private company stepped in to offer advise the public and NHS

:46:57. > :47:03.think we are going to private the NHS. That's not the point, we have

:47:04. > :47:08.to be open to new thoughts on skills. Sarah, do you acknowledge

:47:09. > :47:11.that in the private sector there are some people with brains, who have

:47:12. > :47:17.ideas, who could help the NHS run better? The NHS is constantly

:47:18. > :47:21.learning organisation. That's one of the good things about it. Are you

:47:22. > :47:25.happy about that? One of the things that could be done immediately is to

:47:26. > :47:28.allow staff that work in the NHS, they are constantly frustrated

:47:29. > :47:33.because they don't have the opportunity to contribute ideas

:47:34. > :47:36.about how their service can run better. Do you acknowledge there are

:47:37. > :47:40.people in the private sector... We can always learn and take the best

:47:41. > :47:43.from the world. You are asking a question about things that can be

:47:44. > :47:47.done immediately, today. I think one of the really important lessons is

:47:48. > :47:53.we are now experiencing the start of the austerity in health budgets. We

:47:54. > :47:57.are facing another three years of cuts. So something that could be

:47:58. > :48:00.done immediately is to say OK, it goes no further and we will cancel

:48:01. > :48:06.the cuts are coming. We have ?22 billion worth of so-called

:48:07. > :48:12.efficiency savings. At these are the figures just out. The A figures

:48:13. > :48:20.for December from NHS England. Official figures just published.

:48:21. > :48:24.86.2% patients were admitted, transferred or discharged from A

:48:25. > :48:30.within four hours of arrival. That is below the 95% standard. That is

:48:31. > :48:36.less than the figure of 88% recorded in November. Which you were

:48:37. > :48:42.expecting, presumably? Yes, I would have expected. OK. Even our tiny

:48:43. > :48:48.conversation now shows how difficult it is. Agreed? Hazard yes. Thank you

:48:49. > :48:51.all of you for coming on the programme, thank you.

:48:52. > :48:53."Shameful" - that's how the peer Lord Dubs describes the decision

:48:54. > :48:56.of Britain not take any more unaccompanied child migrants

:48:57. > :49:03.So far, 350 such children have been able to come to Britain.

:49:04. > :49:05.The so called Dubs amendment, designed by the Peer who's

:49:06. > :49:11.a former child refugee, aimed to help some of the estimated

:49:12. > :49:16.90,000 unaccompanied migrant children across the continent.

:49:17. > :49:24.Last year for this programme Lord Dubs and Rabbi Harry Jacobi, visited

:49:25. > :49:30.the Calais migrant camp and met two lone children

:49:31. > :49:32.seeking asylum in the UK, aged 10 and 12.

:49:33. > :49:36.The camp has since been disbanded by the French authorities.

:49:37. > :49:40.I'm a refugee and I came to England at the age of six.

:49:41. > :49:47.With the help of a translator, the boys aged ten and 12 explain

:49:48. > :49:53.He's complaining that it's been eight months now,

:49:54. > :49:55.and he's very upset that no one's bothered or asked us how

:49:56. > :50:02.That's why we are here, to ask you how you are.

:50:03. > :50:09.They said they now had little contact with relatives,

:50:10. > :50:13.who'd paid smugglers to bring them to Europe.

:50:14. > :50:17.One of them told the visitors what happened to his dad.

:50:18. > :50:24.The Taliban, Taliban killed his father.

:50:25. > :50:27.They made it to France in car boots, the back of lorries

:50:28. > :50:33.Scared of older men, scared of French police and tear gas,

:50:34. > :50:39.the boys said they would keep trying to get on lorries bound for England.

:50:40. > :50:42.And Lord Dubs is here now, along with Martha Mackenzie

:50:43. > :50:53.Lord Dubs, your reaction to the decision? I am bitterly, bitterly

:50:54. > :51:00.disappointed. There was no need for this. We had a scheme. I visited

:51:01. > :51:04.some of the Greek refugee camps in January. The situation there is

:51:05. > :51:07.pretty desperate. There are children there who need something better than

:51:08. > :51:10.the freezing cold and no help or support. I think it is a very

:51:11. > :51:14.disappointing decision and I think the government have gone back on

:51:15. > :51:17.their word. They assured me at the beginning they would axe at the

:51:18. > :51:31.letter and spirit of the amendment and they haven't done that. Meaning

:51:32. > :51:34.they -- meaning what? They should simply do it whilst there was a

:51:35. > :51:37.need. I never said we should take all the children in Europe, all I

:51:38. > :51:41.said was we should take some of them. The government have done very

:51:42. > :51:47.little. They say this wasn't the only route to helping vulnerable

:51:48. > :51:51.children. In the last year alone, "We have provided refuge or other

:51:52. > :51:57.forms of leave to more than 8000 children.". Well, yes, but there are

:51:58. > :52:00.over 90,000 unaccompanied child refugees in Europe. The point of the

:52:01. > :52:04.amendment was to help those. The ones that have come here, have come

:52:05. > :52:09.here possibly even legally and we wanted a legal means for

:52:10. > :52:13.unaccompanied child refugees to find safety, that was the purpose of the

:52:14. > :52:17.amendment. It is there as an amendment on the statute books, I

:52:18. > :52:20.believe in good faith. The government started implementing it

:52:21. > :52:23.and now they've decided, for very poor reasons, to stop the scheme

:52:24. > :52:28.altogether. What would be those reasons?

:52:29. > :52:32.The reasons they've stated is local authorities are not able to find,

:52:33. > :52:36.not willing or haven't got the money to find more foster parents who

:52:37. > :52:41.would provide families for these children. I know from local

:52:42. > :52:45.authorities that others are willing, if asked again, to step up to the

:52:46. > :52:49.mark. I've had e-mails from foster parents saying they are willing to

:52:50. > :52:50.take refugees. It isn't true that the local authorities are not

:52:51. > :52:57.supporting this. OK. Martha, what do you think of

:52:58. > :53:00.this decision? We are also very disappointed.

:53:01. > :53:06.Disappointed that the numbers are so small. To echo what Lord Dubs has

:53:07. > :53:09.said, this can't be the end of the government's work for unaccompanied

:53:10. > :53:14.children in Europe. We would urge them to go back to local authorities

:53:15. > :53:17.and see if they can take any more children. And also there are a lot

:53:18. > :53:20.of children in Europe who have family members in the UK and they

:53:21. > :53:25.have a legal right to be reunited with those family members. I know is

:53:26. > :53:29.very hard for to do that. The UK should stay in Greece and Italy make

:53:30. > :53:36.sure those children in the long term can come to the UK safely. You say

:53:37. > :53:40.there are small numbers. The government say last year we

:53:41. > :53:45.transferred over 900 unaccompanied children to the UK from Europe,

:53:46. > :53:50.including more than 750 from France as part of the UK's support for the

:53:51. > :53:56.Calais camp Clarence. I think there two things are. A big

:53:57. > :54:04.part of those transfer the children from Calais Howard family links

:54:05. > :54:07.here. If they stepped up that level of ambition in Greece and Italy,

:54:08. > :54:12.they could bring over many more children who have family links here.

:54:13. > :54:17.I think again, as Lord Dubs said, the scale of the problem is very

:54:18. > :54:20.large. We know there are around 2500 unaccompanied children in Greece at

:54:21. > :54:24.the moment and 90% of all children who arrived in Italy last year were

:54:25. > :54:30.unaccompanied. This isn't a problem that's going away. I'm going to ask

:54:31. > :54:34.you, Lord Dubs, to tell us again about your rescue and the difference

:54:35. > :54:38.it made to you as a child. I know there will be some people watching

:54:39. > :54:45.who are saying, look, we can't look after all of these children, however

:54:46. > :54:50.much we want to. Thank you. In 1938-39, Britain took 10,000

:54:51. > :54:52.unaccompanied child refugees from Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia.

:54:53. > :54:57.I came from Prague. The ones from Prague were organised by Luke

:54:58. > :55:00.Winton. I think if they hadn't come to Britain I think all of us would

:55:01. > :55:05.have not survived the Holocaust. That was a route to safety. I have

:55:06. > :55:10.to say, Britain is a country that was incredibly welcoming, gave me a

:55:11. > :55:12.enormous opportunities, for which I am always enormously grateful. I

:55:13. > :55:19.would like to feel other children who are having a terrible time in

:55:20. > :55:23.camps across Europe could come to you England and have the same

:55:24. > :55:28.opportunities I've been given. Martha McKenzie, I'm going to push

:55:29. > :55:32.back on the figures, this local authorities. The number of asylum

:55:33. > :55:37.seeking children in England increased by 4000 last year and a

:55:38. > :55:41.vast majority are providing support for these young people. You are

:55:42. > :55:44.telling a very different story. We understand the need to consult with

:55:45. > :55:47.local authorities. There has to be space for these children and they

:55:48. > :55:52.have to be cared for properly. What is critical is those safe routes to

:55:53. > :55:55.get the UK. A lot of those children will have arrived spontaneously on

:55:56. > :55:59.their own, falling into the hands of people traffickers, smugglers, some

:56:00. > :56:03.even died en route to the UK. The Dubs amendment scheme made sure they

:56:04. > :56:08.were not just brought Hibbert safely. Yes. What we saw during the

:56:09. > :56:13.Calais camp clearances the number of children arriving spontaneously fell

:56:14. > :56:17.down. We have to make those safe routes for children to get here so

:56:18. > :56:19.they are not risking their lives. Thank you both very much for talking

:56:20. > :56:23.to us. And at about 10.30am,

:56:24. > :56:28.Labour are asking an urgent question about the closure of the child

:56:29. > :56:30.migrant scheme, we'll bring Scientists studying the animals

:56:31. > :56:53.say their eavesdropping has shed light on the origin of human

:56:54. > :56:55.language. The latest news and sport in a

:56:56. > :56:57.moment. Let's get the latest weather

:56:58. > :57:11.update - with Carol. I wish I could but a cold day today.

:57:12. > :57:16.A lot of cloud on some of that is producing wintry showers. Not

:57:17. > :57:20.everywhere. This area of high pressure is blocking fronts coming

:57:21. > :57:23.in from the Atlantic, dragging cold air from the continent across our

:57:24. > :57:27.shores. If you look at the squeeze on those isobars it's telling us it

:57:28. > :57:30.will be pretty windy, especially in the West. The winds in the

:57:31. > :57:34.north-west will slowly come down through the day. In western parts of

:57:35. > :57:38.the UK we will see some sunshine with one or two exceptions. Central

:57:39. > :57:49.and eastern areas, we have the cloud and wintry showers. Over the next

:57:50. > :57:52.few days the drill will be down the east coast of Scotland and England

:57:53. > :57:55.you are likely to see a mixture of rain and or sleet. Come inland and

:57:56. > :57:58.that becomes a mixture of sleet and or snow. The showers, not everyone

:57:59. > :58:03.will see them. Today there will be a lot of dry weather around. Quite a

:58:04. > :58:07.grey day and a cold today. Maximum temperature in London will be four

:58:08. > :58:11.Celsius. The cloud continues as we drift towards Bristol. In parts of

:58:12. > :58:15.Devon and Cornwall, some sunshine but not immune to the odd shower.

:58:16. > :58:19.For West Wales we are also looking at some sunshine but the rest of

:58:20. > :58:23.Wales will be fairly cloudy and it will feel cold. Northern Ireland,

:58:24. > :58:27.bright spells, fewer showers this afternoon and some sunny spells.

:58:28. > :58:32.Through the evening and overnight we hang onto this keenly easterly wind

:58:33. > :58:35.coming off the cold continent. Still a lot of cloud and wintry showers.

:58:36. > :58:39.Clear skies across north-west Scotland and West Wales means here

:58:40. > :58:42.there will be some frost, meaning you could have to scrape your

:58:43. > :58:47.windscreen first thing in the morning. Elsewhere, with the cloud

:58:48. > :58:50.on the breeze, although subzero temperatures, it is still going to

:58:51. > :58:56.feel pretty cold. You may not see that frost. Tomorrow, windy, the

:58:57. > :59:01.wind coming off the continent. Down the east coast through central

:59:02. > :59:06.areas once again we have the combination of cloud, rain, sleet

:59:07. > :59:09.and snow. Up to six centimetres, in the Northern Isles, just over two

:59:10. > :59:12.inches. Despite the fact those are the kind of temperature values you

:59:13. > :59:19.may see on your thermometer, with the wind it will feel cold.

:59:20. > :59:22.Into Saturday, organised band of rain, sleet and snow coming from the

:59:23. > :59:31.east. It will be drifting further west. Note how the wind has changed

:59:32. > :59:35.more of north-easterly. That will exacerbate cold feel of the weather

:59:36. > :59:39.which at best we are looking at between 4-5 or maybe six.

:59:40. > :59:46.Sunday, Sunday it's going to feel raw. Dragging him this cold wind

:59:47. > :59:52.from the near continent. There will be a lot of dry weather around on

:59:53. > :59:55.Sunday, some brighter skies, a little sunshine in Scotland and

:59:56. > :59:59.Northern Ireland but we will still have that mixture of wintry showers.

:00:00. > :00:03.Along the east coast a mixture of rain and sleet and as we push

:00:04. > :00:07.inland, we're looking at a mixture of some snow and also some sleet

:00:08. > :00:13.showers as well. It certainly isn't getting warmer in the next few days.

:00:14. > :00:19.Hello, it's Thursday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

:00:20. > :00:21.December was bad but it looks like January was the worst month

:00:22. > :00:23.for A delays in England since records began.

:00:24. > :00:26.The BBC has seen figures showing record numbers of patients left

:00:27. > :00:33.waiting on trolleys for more than 12 hours for a hospital bed.

:00:34. > :00:36.Brexit is causing friction in the Labour party.

:00:37. > :00:43.But leader Jeremy Corbyn insists the resignation of shadow business

:00:44. > :00:45.secretary Clive Lewis for voting against the Brexit bill

:00:46. > :00:50.Meanwhile the Government say it is the patriotic duty of peers not to

:00:51. > :00:58.oppose Brexit. Chucked out for complaining about

:00:59. > :01:06.the housing conditions. Rogue landlords are still evicting

:01:07. > :01:08.tenants who complain about poor housing conditions,

:01:09. > :01:15.despite a new law aimed The smell inside this room is vile.

:01:16. > :01:17.When you look at this, I would describe it as mould, dump. It

:01:18. > :01:20.smells bad. Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

:01:21. > :01:29.with a summary of today's news. New figures from NHS England show

:01:30. > :01:31.that in December 86% of patients were admitted,

:01:32. > :01:36.transferred or discharged from A

:01:37. > :01:38.within four hours of arrival. That's well below the standard

:01:39. > :01:41.of 95%, and below November's Provisional figures leaked

:01:42. > :01:50.to the BBC suggest that last month the figure went down

:01:51. > :01:52.to 82%, the lowest since The Department of Health insists

:01:53. > :01:56.the vast majority of patients Downing Street has attempted to play

:01:57. > :01:59.down an earlier threat by a Government source

:02:00. > :02:02.that the House of Lords could be abolished if peers tried to block

:02:03. > :02:04.the Government's bill to begin Last night, the Commons

:02:05. > :02:14.overwhelmingly backed the legislation

:02:15. > :02:15.without any amendments. More than 50 Labour MPs defied

:02:16. > :02:17.Jeremy Corbyn and voted The Shadow Home Secretary Yvette

:02:18. > :02:22.Cooper is asking an urgent question in the Commons this morning

:02:23. > :02:25.on the closure of the programme to welcome

:02:26. > :02:26.unaccompanied child refugees. When the Dubs Amendment

:02:27. > :02:28.was introduced last year, campaigners hoped thousands

:02:29. > :02:31.of children would benefit. By the time the system closes next

:02:32. > :02:34.month, just 350 children will have It was designed by Lord

:02:35. > :02:51.Dubs, who's described There was absolutely no need for

:02:52. > :02:57.this. We had a scheme, I visited some of the Greek refugee camps in

:02:58. > :03:01.January, the situation there is pretty desperate. There are children

:03:02. > :03:05.there and need something better than the freezing cold and no help and

:03:06. > :03:07.support, so I think it is a very disappointing decision and edit the

:03:08. > :03:09.Government have gone back on their word.

:03:10. > :03:11.New laws introduced last year to protect tenants in England

:03:12. > :03:13.from so-called "revenge evictions" aren't working, according to MPs

:03:14. > :03:18.A BBC Freedom of Information request found that there may be hundreds

:03:19. > :03:21.of thousands of tenants afraid to report things like damp,

:03:22. > :03:28.faulty electrics and broken boilers, for fear of being evicted.

:03:29. > :03:30.The mother of an 11-year-old transgender girl who was shot

:03:31. > :03:33.with an air-gun claims her school has not done enough

:03:34. > :03:36.She said five months of bullying has had a "terrible

:03:37. > :03:40.Greater Manchester Police confirmed it's investigating the shooting.

:03:41. > :03:43.The school said it took the attack "very seriously" and had expelled

:03:44. > :03:56.British scientists studying the calls of one of our closest ape

:03:57. > :04:02.relatives say they've revealed the origins of the earliest words.

:04:03. > :04:03.The researchers recorded and analysed thousands

:04:04. > :04:06.of orangutan squeaks over several years to learn how

:04:07. > :04:11.We will be speaking to the lead author of that research in the next

:04:12. > :04:12.hour. An Australian man has survived

:04:13. > :04:15.spending hours struggling to keep his nose above water

:04:16. > :04:17.after his excavator Daniel Miller had been riding

:04:18. > :04:28.the machine at his remote property north of Sydney when the edge

:04:29. > :04:31.of the dam gave way, and he was pinned down

:04:32. > :04:38.by the three-tonne excavator. and spent the whole time thinking

:04:39. > :04:51.about his wife and their I went to a very, almost robotic

:04:52. > :04:57.state of dust, count to 60, don't think about six hours, think about

:04:58. > :05:03.60 seconds 60 seconds, moved my arms, readjust, count to 60 again,

:05:04. > :05:09.another 60 seconds. Move my arms, readjust, just wait and try to be

:05:10. > :05:13.calm and logical. I watched cricket climb up a piece of grass two hours.

:05:14. > :05:15.I was stuck, there was nothing I could do. Lucky man.

:05:16. > :05:19.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

:05:20. > :05:28.Thank you for your comments about your experience of A Figures out

:05:29. > :05:32.today showing that the target for four hours waiting in A was not

:05:33. > :05:37.met in December and January. Allianz text said, my son, six years of age,

:05:38. > :05:41.waited three hours in A with a fractured wrist and was sent home

:05:42. > :05:46.without painkillers. Three days later we went as a GP and were sent

:05:47. > :05:49.back to A for an x-ray. There are positive stories, Janet

:05:50. > :05:55.says, my husband has terminal cancer and we have had three occasions of

:05:56. > :05:58.going to A in Scotland, on each occasion we have had caring staff

:05:59. > :06:05.who have dealt with us as promptly as possible, sometimes we have to

:06:06. > :06:08.wait, we are patients after all. Why don't be less urgent cases display

:06:09. > :06:13.some patience and be grateful that we have a caring service.

:06:14. > :06:16.Bridge says, I work in a busy A department and suggest the people

:06:17. > :06:20.who attend with a nonemergency should be charged. There are no

:06:21. > :06:23.facilities for after-care for elderly patients and mental health

:06:24. > :06:32.patients because of bed-blocking. There is nowhere to send patients

:06:33. > :06:38.that do need admitting. If anyone has watched the programme Hospital

:06:39. > :06:45.on BBC Two, it shows this, it makes me stressed just to watch.

:06:46. > :06:48.Coming up, after a transgender people in Manchester was shocked by

:06:49. > :06:50.fellow people with an airgun, we will hear from her mother. Before

:06:51. > :06:52.that, the sport. Derby manager Steve McClaren seems

:06:53. > :07:01.to think so after he made eight of the 18 overall changes

:07:02. > :07:03.in their defeat to Leicester So neither team appeared

:07:04. > :07:06.to fancy the extra game, but it still turned out to be

:07:07. > :07:09.an entertaining one. Andy King put Leicester ahead before

:07:10. > :07:11.Abdoul Camera's deflected Leicester restored their lead

:07:12. > :07:14.through substitute Wilfred Ndidi, his first goal for the club,

:07:15. > :07:16.and Demarai Gray's superb solo goal secured their place

:07:17. > :07:37.in the fifth round. Tonight was about the squad, injured

:07:38. > :07:42.players coming back and getting the game, just giving them minutes.

:07:43. > :07:46.Towards the end of the season, when it is going to be important for us,

:07:47. > :07:50.we need everybody. We missed our opportunity in the first game, we

:07:51. > :07:54.didn't want the replay but it was a great game, fantastic support from

:07:55. > :07:57.our fans, and I couldn't fault the players.

:07:58. > :08:05.We want to do well in all the competition where we play. Of course

:08:06. > :08:10.we want to go forward in the FA Cup. The Premier League is not so good

:08:11. > :08:11.but we have to stay in the Premier League and for us now that is the

:08:12. > :08:13.focus on Sunday. MPs will debate the Football

:08:14. > :08:15.Associations "failure It follows a motion of no confidence

:08:16. > :08:24.in the governing body. Parliament will examine

:08:25. > :08:26.whether the FA is fit for purpose. Last July, sports minister

:08:27. > :08:33.Tracey Crouch said the governing body would lose its ?30-?40 million

:08:34. > :08:35.of public funding if Britain is aiming to become one

:08:36. > :08:39.of the world's top five skiing In exactly a year's time

:08:40. > :08:50.the Winter Olympics start in South Korea and the Team

:08:51. > :08:54.GB chef de mission says Great Britain can

:08:55. > :08:59.achieve its best ever Games. The current record medal haul

:09:00. > :09:02.is four in 1924 and at Achieved in part by

:09:03. > :09:13.Jenny Jones' bronze and she thinks the team can go

:09:14. > :09:21.at least one better. Dave Riding is getting great

:09:22. > :09:24.results. There are athletes getting podium result over this winter,

:09:25. > :09:30.which has been awesome, and in skiing you have got James Woods, who

:09:31. > :09:32.just won, Katie Ormerod came second at Air And Style, so I think it is

:09:33. > :09:34.achievable. Tiger Woods has admitted

:09:35. > :09:37.he will "never feel great" again. He returned to golf

:09:38. > :09:41.after more than a year out in December following a second

:09:42. > :09:45.major back operation. But had to pull out of the Dubai

:09:46. > :09:48.Desert Classic earlier this He also revelaed there have been

:09:49. > :10:04.times he didn't think he'd be That is all for now, the headlines

:10:05. > :10:07.after 10:30am. Let's go to Westminster when Norman

:10:08. > :10:12.has the latest on Brexit and whether the House of Lords Ultravox banner

:10:13. > :10:13.in the works. Is it all go for Brexit, do you believe, Norman

:10:14. > :10:22.Smith, political Guru? My sense is Mrs May has her foot on

:10:23. > :10:27.the gas and is in cruise control. Look at what happened in the

:10:28. > :10:33.Commons, the majority she got for her Brexit Bill are humongous. Last

:10:34. > :10:37.night she got 370, and if you think there were hundreds of amendments

:10:38. > :10:43.put down to the bill, not a single one got past, so now that it goes to

:10:44. > :10:47.the House of Lords, if you are at Pier, you are thinking, gosh, cannot

:10:48. > :10:51.really oppose this because it got such a stonking majority in the

:10:52. > :10:57.Commons. More than that, the Government is trying to crank up the

:10:58. > :11:00.pressure on peers with dire warning sounded last night, one Government

:11:01. > :11:04.source sending a text to journalists saying that if peers sought to

:11:05. > :11:09.frustrate Brexit then there would be an overwhelming demand for the House

:11:10. > :11:13.of Lords to be abolished, and that is what we were hearing from other

:11:14. > :11:15.mid loyalists like the Tory MP James cleverly this morning.

:11:16. > :11:18.When the British people voted in huge numbers -

:11:19. > :11:25.the largest popular mandate in British political history -

:11:26. > :11:28.for the Lords to try and undermine or subvert that will put them

:11:29. > :11:31.in a constitutionally very, very difficult place.

:11:32. > :11:38.I think there are a lot of people there who understand

:11:39. > :11:40.the implications of trying to distort or delay or even

:11:41. > :11:47.Could they really get rid of the Lords over this?!

:11:48. > :11:52.I was trying to get my phone out but I am too slow! The reason is this

:11:53. > :11:55.morning I was sent text messages by Downing Street in effect saying,

:11:56. > :12:00.hang on, we didn't mean to say we were going to abolish the House of

:12:01. > :12:03.Lords, actually we are relaxed about the House of Lords scrutinising and

:12:04. > :12:08.debating this bill. The reason for that is they know full well if they

:12:09. > :12:13.go round threatening to land a blow on the House of Lords, that will

:12:14. > :12:17.backfire, many peers will think, OK, we will be difficult if that is the

:12:18. > :12:20.attitude you are going to take! So now we are seeing the Government

:12:21. > :12:24.backtracked from that initial threat, although to be there to

:12:25. > :12:25.David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, last night he struck a different

:12:26. > :12:33.mode. These bloodcurdling things are

:12:34. > :12:37.silly. Below is an important institution, I expected to do its

:12:38. > :12:39.job and do its patriotic duty and give us the right to go on and

:12:40. > :12:46.negotiate that the relationship. And what is the state of the Labour

:12:47. > :12:54.Party this morning, would you say? Gosh, where to begin. A lot of

:12:55. > :12:58.Labour people are very, very angry that they have ended up in a

:12:59. > :13:00.position where they have effectively backed the Government, and although

:13:01. > :13:05.Jeremy Corbyn ordered his MPs to do that there was a revolt by about 50

:13:06. > :13:10.Labour MPs. Significantly we had Clive Lewis, yesterday we had him

:13:11. > :13:12.coming out of his house and issuing that statement saying he was

:13:13. > :13:17.thinking about what he was going to do and it was all very difficult,

:13:18. > :13:21.but he has now resigned. That has sparked a lot of question marks

:13:22. > :13:25.about whether there could be a move against Mr Corbyn again. I don't

:13:26. > :13:31.think that is likely in the short-term but it has just started

:13:32. > :13:38.that whole this morning. Mr Corbyn, when he was pressed earlier today,

:13:39. > :13:40.again insisted he thinks he took the right decision to back Brexit.

:13:41. > :13:47.Look, the majority of Labour MPs voted to trigger Article 50.

:13:48. > :13:49.50-odd voted against it, mainly on a basis of a strong

:13:50. > :13:54.My argument is it was a national vote, it was a national referendum

:13:55. > :14:04.On all the other campaigning points, there is unity.

:14:05. > :14:12.Let me finish with this, it made me laugh. This is a tweak here from a

:14:13. > :14:15.guy called Stuart Wood, who used to be basically Ed Miliband's

:14:16. > :14:27.right-hand man, lamenting where Labour is.

:14:28. > :14:34.I think that gives you a sense of the feeling amongst many people that

:14:35. > :14:35.really, over Brexit, they made a bit of a hash of it.

:14:36. > :14:39.Thank you, Norman. We've been speaking to the mother,

:14:40. > :14:44.whose 11-year-old transgender child was bullied for months and shot

:14:45. > :14:47.with a ball bearing gun A new law designed to help protect

:14:48. > :14:52.people renting homes from rogue landlords isn't working,

:14:53. > :14:55.say MPs and housing lawyers. Things like faulty electrics,

:14:56. > :14:56.damp and broken boilers that don't get fixed when it's cold

:14:57. > :14:59.are all things that are officially classed as category one hazards

:15:00. > :15:01.which pose a risk to health. But many private tenants are worried

:15:02. > :15:04.that if they complain too much, The law in England changed in 2015

:15:05. > :15:15.to make "revenge evictions" illegal. But, despite that change,

:15:16. > :15:17.figures gathered by Radio 1 Newsbeat through Freedom of Information

:15:18. > :15:19.requests show that more than half of local councils across England say

:15:20. > :15:26.they haven't stopped any. Damp, mould, faulty electrics

:15:27. > :15:29.and broken windows and boilers that They're all classed as category one

:15:30. > :15:41.hazards, in other words - they're so bad that they pose

:15:42. > :15:45.a risk to people's help. And they are all things that this

:15:46. > :15:48.man from Leeds City Council's rogue landlords unit

:15:49. > :15:49.is all-too-familiar with. That's all damp that has been

:15:50. > :15:53.leaking from outside You might expect tenants

:15:54. > :15:56.to complain about problems That's partly because they

:15:57. > :16:00.fear being forced out A practice known as revenge

:16:01. > :16:05.eviction, something This is rented out as

:16:06. > :16:09.private accomdation. People paying to rent here,

:16:10. > :16:14.making complaints, nothing is happening and then they could be

:16:15. > :16:17.under the threat of a revenge That is the reason why people

:16:18. > :16:20.are not coming forward And that's exactly what happened

:16:21. > :16:24.to Helen, she was living with her mum, sister and baby

:16:25. > :16:27.daughter in a rented home with lots It was horrible, after months

:16:28. > :16:31.of complaining we got a firm of solicitors in who deal

:16:32. > :16:33.with properties in these They checked the property,

:16:34. > :16:41.they agreed that it was damp and something needed to be done,

:16:42. > :16:44.so they wrote to our landlord and instructed that work needed

:16:45. > :16:46.to be done on the property and within a week of him receiving

:16:47. > :16:50.that we received a section 21 eviction notice pushed

:16:51. > :16:56.under our door. Because of what happened to people

:16:57. > :17:00.like Helen a new law was introduced in October 2015

:17:01. > :17:02.to try and stop retaliatory, But, exclusive figures gathered

:17:03. > :17:11.in a Freedom of Information requests to hundreds of local authorities

:17:12. > :17:13.right across England, which have the power to stop them,

:17:14. > :17:16.show that more than half And fewer than one in five have

:17:17. > :17:24.taken any action at all. We're talking about landlords

:17:25. > :17:27.who are trying to avoid carrying out their responsibilities

:17:28. > :17:31.as a landlord, to keep their properties in a good state

:17:32. > :17:34.of repair, and if asked a simple question like: "Will you a do repair

:17:35. > :17:37.for me?", they threaten someone They are the landlords

:17:38. > :17:41.we have got to get out. They're going to be in the worst

:17:42. > :17:43.properties sometimes people living So, that's the biggest

:17:44. > :17:46.challenge for everybody. The Government says prevent

:17:47. > :17:49.evictions are rare and that because of the new law it's given

:17:50. > :17:51.local councils all the powers Thankfully for Helen,

:17:52. > :17:56.she was able to find a new home. My landlord is great,

:17:57. > :18:01.I can't complain about him. I don't have to contact him

:18:02. > :18:04.unless something does pop up. We can speak to Giles Peaker,

:18:05. > :18:14.former chair of the Housing Law Carolyn Uphill, Chairman of

:18:15. > :18:18.the National Landlords Association. And Kate Webb Shelter's

:18:19. > :18:36.head of policy. And Sarah Ryan who has an experience

:18:37. > :18:39.to share with us. We had a bathroom that was leaking into our kitchen

:18:40. > :18:44.downstairs. Essentially when we asked for it to be repaired, the

:18:45. > :18:49.landlord took about two weeks and then when I really pushed and said,

:18:50. > :18:53.you do have an obligation to do this, that afternoon we were served

:18:54. > :18:59.with a section 21 notice asking us to leave. How did you react? It was

:19:00. > :19:04.really frightening, actually, because about two weeks previous I

:19:05. > :19:08.had extended my fixed term tenancy for six months. It was clear to me

:19:09. > :19:14.the reason she had served that notice was because I asked for the

:19:15. > :19:21.repairs to be made. You will know that revenge evictions are illegal

:19:22. > :19:24.now. Yes. But it appears either people aren't telling councils when

:19:25. > :19:27.they have an issue with our landlord or councils aren't doing what they

:19:28. > :19:30.are supposed to do under the legislation that gives them the

:19:31. > :19:34.power to clamp down on rogue landlords. Yes, well I was in a bit

:19:35. > :19:39.of a predicament because I'd actually moved to a new area from

:19:40. > :19:48.where I grew up. When I went to the local council for where I live now

:19:49. > :19:55.they said I they had no obligation to help me. When I contacted the old

:19:56. > :20:00.council they said they didn't have an obligation to help me either

:20:01. > :20:03.circus Catch-22. Is this law ineffective? It's not widely being

:20:04. > :20:08.used. Does that mean it's not being used or councils have got their head

:20:09. > :20:13.round it yet? That are two problems, the threshold in the law, the

:20:14. > :20:19.council has to serve an improvement notice or emergency repairs notice

:20:20. > :20:23.before retaliatory eviction happens. The second problem is that councils,

:20:24. > :20:28.for one reason or another, are not taking action. I think a lot of the

:20:29. > :20:33.time it is resources. Environmental health departments, some of them

:20:34. > :20:37.haven't even got environmental health problems any more and they

:20:38. > :20:44.are reluctant to serve notices. Let me bring you in from Shelter, why is

:20:45. > :20:47.networking? The law is only the first step to tackle the most

:20:48. > :20:50.extreme cases. I agree that it comes down to lack of resources and very

:20:51. > :20:56.few people going through the formal process. But the law is trying to

:20:57. > :21:00.push water uphill. We have a law that says you can evict people for

:21:01. > :21:04.no reason whatsoever, so until we tackle that it will be very easy for

:21:05. > :21:09.landlords to use evictions in this way, to evade looking after their

:21:10. > :21:14.properties and tenants. You are German of the National landlords

:21:15. > :21:17.Association. We know revenge evictions are pretty rare, affect

:21:18. > :21:22.about 2% of tenancies but when they happen they are devastating, aren't

:21:23. > :21:26.they? Certainly they are. What Sarah's story reveals if a landlord

:21:27. > :21:31.who doesn't respond to repair where there is a leak going from the

:21:32. > :21:34.bathroom through the ceiling to the kitchen is a poor investor and a

:21:35. > :21:38.fall to themselves could eventually that will do major damage to the

:21:39. > :21:43.property. But that is no consolation to Sarah, who was evicted? Obviously

:21:44. > :21:47.under the new law she shouldn't be able to be evicted because that's

:21:48. > :21:51.what the law is designed to protect, to avoid. What this story is really

:21:52. > :21:55.about is a lack of enforcement. Councils have the powers to deal

:21:56. > :21:58.with these issues and if they would use them, they could drive the

:21:59. > :22:03.rogues out of the sector, which we certainly would like to see and I

:22:04. > :22:07.think sensible and responsible landlords would as well. Would you

:22:08. > :22:12.agree with that, Giles? Councils have the power, the government would

:22:13. > :22:15.say they have... You shake your head in disagreement. May have some

:22:16. > :22:20.important powers and the government, to their credit, had given them much

:22:21. > :22:27.more powers, but it's still not enough to write this imbalance. You

:22:28. > :22:34.are raising eyebrows. I would agree, to be honest. I think there are,

:22:35. > :22:38.certainly with the retaliatory eviction laws, there is a very

:22:39. > :22:42.narrow time window in which the council can take a step towards this

:22:43. > :22:46.not happening, about three months. To inspect and decide whether to

:22:47. > :22:50.serve a notice, to serve the formal notice that timescale for

:22:51. > :22:53.overstretched and under resourced departments, it just doesn't happen.

:22:54. > :23:00.Let me read this e-mail from Agnes. We live in a bungalow five bedrooms

:23:01. > :23:07.or with damp, note central heating. A boarded-up window. The ceiling is

:23:08. > :23:10.mouldy and damp because there is no ventilation. We have asked the

:23:11. > :23:14.landlord on several occasions to fix these things but time and time again

:23:15. > :23:17.he says he will put our rent up if he has to come and sort it out. We

:23:18. > :23:22.are in fear of getting evicted if we take things further and we've lived

:23:23. > :23:28.in this state for years, because of that fear. What can we do? Please

:23:29. > :23:31.help. Let me ask you from the National landlords Association,

:23:32. > :23:37.clearly broken landlord, what Agnes do? Follow the new law. They should

:23:38. > :23:40.report the matter to the landlord in writing, that's the first step. If

:23:41. > :23:44.the landlord doesn't give a reasonable response within 14 days,

:23:45. > :23:48.which is a plan of action to put things right, they should report the

:23:49. > :23:53.matter to the council. Damp can be a category one hazard, the council can

:23:54. > :23:57.issue enforcement action. In the meantime, the council cannot survey

:23:58. > :24:01.section 21 notice to remove the tenant. Let's keep this in

:24:02. > :24:06.proportion, because they sensible investor does not actually want to

:24:07. > :24:10.lose a reliable, paying tenant. They want to maintain the property they

:24:11. > :24:14.have invested in. So this isn't a problem with the majority of

:24:15. > :24:19.landlords, it's a minority of rogue landlords and council should

:24:20. > :24:23.enforce. Giles? It's not necessarily a small problem. The government's

:24:24. > :24:32.figures showed 20% of the private sector doesn't meet standards. 2%

:24:33. > :24:34.revenge evictions? 2% have been evicted or threatened but the

:24:35. > :24:38.proportion of homes that don't meet the standard is much higher. But

:24:39. > :24:43.going back to Agnes' problem, the question is why is about what Agnes

:24:44. > :24:46.should do? Why aren't the government stepping in and giving tenants

:24:47. > :24:50.genuine security and why are we building more high-quality homes, so

:24:51. > :24:53.people like Agnes don't feel stuck somewhere where they can't afford an

:24:54. > :24:57.alternative on the conditions they are living in a absolutely

:24:58. > :25:00.appalling? The government would say they are trying to address those

:25:01. > :25:05.issues with the housing White Paper we spoke about earlier this week.

:25:06. > :25:08.Sarah, what is your situation now? We have actually managed to buy a

:25:09. > :25:12.house. We were in the process at the time of buying, which is why we

:25:13. > :25:16.extended our tenancy but we nearly lost it because we had nowhere else

:25:17. > :25:20.to live for that six-month period. Good luck with the house. We were in

:25:21. > :25:24.the process at the time of buying, which is why we extended our tenancy

:25:25. > :25:26.but we nearly lost it because we had nowhere else to live for that

:25:27. > :25:27.six-month period. Good luck with the house-buying. Thank you for coming

:25:28. > :25:31.on the programme. Thank you all. Police in Greater Manchester say

:25:32. > :25:33.they're investigating after a young transgender schoolgirl was shot

:25:34. > :25:35.with a ball bearing The 11-year-old girl was not injured

:25:36. > :25:44.but her parents say it's just the latest incident of extreme

:25:45. > :25:46.bullying that their daughter has suffered for five months

:25:47. > :25:51.because she's transgender. The girls mum, who's asked not to be

:25:52. > :25:53.named, has been speaking to BBC Radio Manchester

:25:54. > :26:07.about the moment she found out Last week I went to the school at

:26:08. > :26:10.11:30am, because I had a prearranged meeting because of an incident that

:26:11. > :26:16.had happened on Monday. They then told me that my child had been shot

:26:17. > :26:20.by a BB gun by another pupil. When I finally saw my child, she came into

:26:21. > :26:24.the room, she was shaking, she sat on the chair rocking and staring

:26:25. > :26:29.into space. I was completely shocked when I saw her. I spoke about what

:26:30. > :26:33.had happened and I said I was calling the police, they hadn't

:26:34. > :26:37.called the police. I also said, why didn't you phone me sooner? I found

:26:38. > :26:41.out it happened at 9:15am, so this was over two hours later that I

:26:42. > :26:45.found out my child had been shot with a BB gun. Physically she wasn't

:26:46. > :26:50.unhurt but mentally and emotionally this has had a huge impact on her.

:26:51. > :26:54.Our child came home to us in December, after a particularly bad

:26:55. > :26:57.week of bullying at the beginning of December, and said to us that she

:26:58. > :27:02.couldn't take any more, she was going to throw herself off a bridge.

:27:03. > :27:06.That is the worst word that any parent could ever hear. I remember

:27:07. > :27:11.when she told us that she didn't feel she was in the right body. I'd

:27:12. > :27:14.read up on the suicide rates of young people who were transgender

:27:15. > :27:16.and I said, the first thing I said was, my child will not be one of

:27:17. > :27:22.those children who killed themselves. Goodness me.

:27:23. > :27:25.With me now is Susie Green, she's the CEO of the charity Mermaids,

:27:26. > :27:27.which supports parents of transgender children.

:27:28. > :27:35.Without breaking any confidences, tell us more about this horrific

:27:36. > :27:38.case? The family came to Mermaids a couple of years ago about how to

:27:39. > :27:42.support their child. They had been dealing with their child stating

:27:43. > :27:48.they weren't really a boy, were a girl and became involved with the

:27:49. > :27:53.parents group. Up until secondary school, things went very well. She

:27:54. > :27:56.transitioned primary, it was supported really well the school

:27:57. > :28:00.were really good. Going into secondary school bullying started

:28:01. > :28:06.almost immediately. The effect it had on the family was horrendous. It

:28:07. > :28:11.started at a low level, escalated and then mum went into school, talk

:28:12. > :28:16.to pupils and it seemed to quieten down but then we've had some really

:28:17. > :28:20.negative press regarding parents of transgender children over the last

:28:21. > :28:25.few months and we've seen a direct escalation since then. This family

:28:26. > :28:29.is in bits. It's horrendous. There's nothing worse than hearing your

:28:30. > :28:33.Child say they don't want to be alive. I've been through that myself

:28:34. > :28:36.with my own daughter and that's what they are now facing. Every school is

:28:37. > :28:42.supposed to have an anti-bullying policy. This is failing in this

:28:43. > :28:50.particular case, clearly. Clearly. And I think as well, the

:28:51. > :28:53.anti-bullying policies schools have very rarely addressed transgender

:28:54. > :28:56.pupils or how to deal with transgender pupils in schools are

:28:57. > :29:04.often completely at a loss of what to do. So they avoid it, rather than

:29:05. > :29:07.dealing with that. I know that one incident that the mum has reported

:29:08. > :29:10.back to the parents group, an older boys that they were going to beat up

:29:11. > :29:15.their daughter and they were allowed to do so because she was a boy and

:29:16. > :29:18.not really a girl. The school said they couldn't do anything about that

:29:19. > :29:24.because there were no witnesses. Wow. When this particular girl

:29:25. > :29:28.arrived at this secondary school, was she open about the fact she was

:29:29. > :29:32.transgender? I know some children transition from primary to secondary

:29:33. > :29:35.without telling anybody. They just arrived as a girl or a boy with a

:29:36. > :29:40.new name. She arrived as a girl and with her

:29:41. > :29:45.new name and that's what was on the register, but she wasn't, she was

:29:46. > :29:49.open, because there were a number of pupils who had gone up from primary

:29:50. > :29:54.school with her, so new about her history. One girl actually went up

:29:55. > :30:00.to her one time in the corridor and whispered to her, I know you're not

:30:01. > :30:04.really a girl, I know you're really a boy. Then this young girl then

:30:05. > :30:09.basically stood and shouted out, just so everybody knows, I'm

:30:10. > :30:14.transgender. She's an incredible child. This has had a real impact on

:30:15. > :30:17.her emotional health. We have a statement from school. We are not

:30:18. > :30:22.naming the school to protect the girl's identity. This matter has

:30:23. > :30:26.been treated very seriously and the pupil who fired the ball bearing gun

:30:27. > :30:30.has been permanently excluded. We wish to send a message out to our

:30:31. > :30:33.community that this behaviour is completely unacceptable and will

:30:34. > :30:37.result in removal from our school. We've enlisted the support of a

:30:38. > :30:45.national organisation to help pass further with training of staff... Is

:30:46. > :30:47.that you? They say Stonewall, they were

:30:48. > :30:51.contacted but haven't done any work with the school. We are talking

:30:52. > :30:55.about going in and doing some training but it hasn't been arranged

:30:56. > :31:00.yet. We have met with the parents of the pupil to apologise to see what

:31:01. > :31:04.we can do further a school. I think if they'd have addressed the earlier

:31:05. > :31:07.incidents with far more severity, this probably wouldn't have got to

:31:08. > :31:11.the stage it's that now. Zero tolerance. Absolutely, zero

:31:12. > :31:16.tolerance. That's what it should. Anyone dealing with this sort of

:31:17. > :31:19.level of hate crime, and that's what it is, I hate crime, it shouldn't be

:31:20. > :31:24.tolerated under any circumstances and this has been allowed to just

:31:25. > :31:27.escalate as it has. If it had been dealt with properly in the beginning

:31:28. > :31:32.of this child wouldn't have been damaged so badly by. Thank you very

:31:33. > :31:37.much, thank you for talking to us. Susie Green, the CEO of the charity

:31:38. > :31:45.Mermaids, a charity that supports parents of transgender children.

:31:46. > :31:48.This is the scene in the House of Commons now where the shadow home

:31:49. > :31:51.secretary Yvette Cooper is shortly to ask an urgent question

:31:52. > :31:53.on the closure of the programme to welcome child refugees

:31:54. > :32:01.Known as the Dubs Amendment, we spoke to Lord Dubs earlier, the peer

:32:02. > :32:03.who campaigned for this to be introduced he told us he's really

:32:04. > :32:08.disappointed that the scheme is going to be closed at the end of

:32:09. > :32:11.March. As soon as Yvette Cooper stand up,

:32:12. > :32:12.we will cross back live to the Commons.

:32:13. > :32:16.A waiting times in English hospitals are longer than ever.

:32:17. > :32:21.We'll be getting some of the political reaction.

:32:22. > :32:26.scientists studying the animals say their eavesdropping has shed

:32:27. > :32:33.light on the origin of human language.

:32:34. > :32:37.With the news, here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom.

:32:38. > :32:40.New figures from NHS England show that in December 86%

:32:41. > :32:42.of patients were admitted, transferred

:32:43. > :32:45.or discharged from A within four hours of arrival.

:32:46. > :32:48.That's well below the standard of 95%, and below November's

:32:49. > :32:55.Provisional figures leaked to the BBC suggest that last month

:32:56. > :33:00.the figure went down to 82%, the lowest since

:33:01. > :33:08.Figures also suggest record numbers of people waited longer than 12

:33:09. > :33:21.hours for a hospital bed. The shadow Home Secretary Yvette

:33:22. > :33:25.Cooper is raising an urgent question about the closure of the programme

:33:26. > :33:29.to welcome unaccompanied child refugees. It was hoped thousands

:33:30. > :33:34.would benefit but by the time the programme closes next month only 350

:33:35. > :33:35.will have benefit. Lord Dubs told this programme the decision is a

:33:36. > :33:38.complete U-turn. New laws introduced last year

:33:39. > :33:40.to protect tenants in England from so-called "revenge evictions"

:33:41. > :33:42.aren't working, according to MPs A BBC Freedom of Information request

:33:43. > :33:47.found that there may be hundreds of thousands of tenants afraid

:33:48. > :33:49.to report things like damp, faulty electrics and broken boilers,

:33:50. > :33:53.for fear of being evicted. Downing Street has attempted to play

:33:54. > :33:56.down an earlier threat by a Government source

:33:57. > :34:00.that the House of Lords could be abolished if peers tried to block

:34:01. > :34:03.the Government's bill to begin Last night, the Commons

:34:04. > :34:07.overwhelmingly backed the legislation

:34:08. > :34:08.without any amendments. More than 50 Labour MPs defied

:34:09. > :34:12.Jeremy Corbyn and voted An Australian man has survived

:34:13. > :34:23.spending hours struggling to keep his nose above water

:34:24. > :34:25.after his excavator Daniel Miller had been riding

:34:26. > :34:32.the machine at his remote property north of Sydney when the edge

:34:33. > :34:35.of the dam gave way, and spent the whole time thinking

:34:36. > :34:40.about his wife and their That's a summary of the latest

:34:41. > :34:44.news, join me for BBC Leicester might be flirting

:34:45. > :34:54.with relegation in the league, but they're through to the FA Cup

:34:55. > :34:57.5th round today after beating Andy King put Leicester ahead before

:34:58. > :35:02.Abdoul Camera's deflected Leicester restored their lead

:35:03. > :35:09.through substitute Wilfred Ndidi, his first goal for the club,

:35:10. > :35:12.and Demarai Gray's solo goal secured MPs will debate the Football

:35:13. > :35:19.Associations "failure It follows a motion of no confidence

:35:20. > :35:23.in the governing body. Parliament will examine

:35:24. > :35:30.whether the FA is fit for purpose. Britain is aiming to become one

:35:31. > :35:33.of the world's top five skiing The Winter Olympics in South Korea

:35:34. > :35:39.start a year today, and the Team GB Chef de Mission says

:35:40. > :35:42.they can beat their best medal haul Tiger Woods has said

:35:43. > :35:48.he will "never feel great" again. He's just come back from a second

:35:49. > :35:51.back operation but pulled out of the Dubai Desert Classic

:35:52. > :35:53.earlier this month He also admitted there have been

:35:54. > :35:58.times he didn't think he'd be Those are the headlines for now,

:35:59. > :36:13.more later on. We will go back to the Commons when

:36:14. > :36:18.Yvette Cooper asked that question about the closure of the Dubs scheme

:36:19. > :36:21.to bring unaccompanied child migrants to the UK, as soon as she

:36:22. > :36:28.stands up to speak we will cross back there.

:36:29. > :36:31.More now on this morning's top story, the official A figures

:36:32. > :36:34.for England in December were the worst since records began

:36:35. > :36:39.Our Health Editor Hugh Pym is here to explain what these figures mean.

:36:40. > :36:47.These are the benchmarks, that 95% of patients should be assessed

:36:48. > :36:51.within four hours and that has been missed for more than a year, so

:36:52. > :36:58.people have got used to that, but we learned that in December it was a

:36:59. > :37:03.figure of 86.2, the worst since these records began in 2004 and the

:37:04. > :37:07.target was introduced. Overnight the BBC had a leak on provisional

:37:08. > :37:12.figures for January which showed it will be even worse, suggested it

:37:13. > :37:15.was, at 82%. These are the official figures saying December was pretty

:37:16. > :37:19.bad, we gather from what we have heard from our sources that January

:37:20. > :37:25.will be even worse. Is there any possibility that the

:37:26. > :37:28.target could be scrapped all redefined so that it doesn't look as

:37:29. > :37:32.bad? Work is going on to redefine it

:37:33. > :37:35.because what ministers are saying is, given the huge volume of

:37:36. > :37:40.patients coming in, some of whom don't need to be there, is there a

:37:41. > :37:43.better way of measuring it? They want to come up with something that

:37:44. > :37:47.measures urgent cases and how many are treated and assessed within four

:37:48. > :37:51.hours, but it is being made clear that if they scrap the target I have

:37:52. > :37:54.been referring to it would look like they are trying to evade the problem

:37:55. > :37:58.so I think they will keep it and come up with an extra one.

:37:59. > :38:07.I am going to interrupt go back to the House of Commons to hear Yvette

:38:08. > :38:10.Cooper asking about the dubs scheme. Secretary of State for the Homeland

:38:11. > :38:17.Department, secretary Amber Rudd. Mr Speaker, the Government takes the

:38:18. > :38:22.plight of asylum seeking children extremely seriously. That is why we

:38:23. > :38:25.pledged over ?2.3 billion in aid to the Syrian conflict, our largest

:38:26. > :38:30.ever humanitarian response to a single crisis. The UK has

:38:31. > :38:32.contributed significantly to hosting, supporting and protecting

:38:33. > :38:38.the most vulnerable children affected by the migration crisis. In

:38:39. > :38:47.the year ending September 2016 week granted asylum or another form of

:38:48. > :38:50.leave to over 800 children. Of the 4400 children settled through the

:38:51. > :38:56.Syrian vulnerable persons resettlement scheme so far, around

:38:57. > :38:59.half our children. Within Europe in 2016 we transferred over 900

:39:00. > :39:04.unaccompanied asylum seeking children to the UK. This included

:39:05. > :39:11.more than 750 from France as part of the UK's support for the Calais camp

:39:12. > :39:17.clearance. And I'm proud that as Home Secretary the UK played such a

:39:18. > :39:22.key role in supporting the French to safely and compassionately close the

:39:23. > :39:25.camp. Yesterday, the Government announced that in accordance with

:39:26. > :39:31.section 67 of the immigration act, we will transfer the specified

:39:32. > :39:35.number of 350 children pursuant to that section who reasonably meet the

:39:36. > :39:40.intention and spirit behind the provision. This number includes over

:39:41. > :39:46.200 children already transferred under section 67 from France, and I

:39:47. > :39:51.want to be absolutely clear, the scheme is not closed. As required by

:39:52. > :39:54.the legislation, we have consulted with local authorities on their

:39:55. > :39:59.capacity to care for unaccompanied asylum seeking children before

:40:00. > :40:02.arriving at the number, and we're grateful for the way which local

:40:03. > :40:07.authorities have stepped up to provide places to those arriving,

:40:08. > :40:11.and we will continue to work closely to address capacity needs. The

:40:12. > :40:15.Government has always been clear that we do not want to incentivise

:40:16. > :40:19.perilous journeys to Europe, particularly by the most vulnerable

:40:20. > :40:25.children. That is why children must have arrived in Europe before March

:40:26. > :40:29.20 2016th to be eligible under section 67 of the immigration act.

:40:30. > :40:51.The obligation was accepted on the basis that the measure would not

:40:52. > :40:55.act as a pull factor for children to Europe and would be based on local

:40:56. > :40:57.authority capacity. The Government has a clear strategy and we believe

:40:58. > :41:00.that this is the right approach. Here in the UK we have launched the

:41:01. > :41:01.National transfer scheme and significantly increased funding for

:41:02. > :41:03.local authorities caring for unaccompanied asylum seeking

:41:04. > :41:05.children by between 20 and 28%. The Government has taken significant

:41:06. > :41:07.steps to improve an already comprehensive approach and we

:41:08. > :41:10.provide protection to thousands of children this year and I am proud of

:41:11. > :41:12.this Government's active approach to helping and sheltering the most

:41:13. > :41:18.vulnerable, and that is a position that will continue. Yvette Cooper.

:41:19. > :41:22.Last week the Prime Minister said, on refugees, this Government has a

:41:23. > :41:26.proud record of support and long may it continue. This week, the

:41:27. > :41:30.Government cancelled the Dubs scheme after it had been running for less

:41:31. > :41:34.than six months. She said it hasn't closed but will she confirm what it

:41:35. > :41:40.said in a statement yesterday that once those 350 children are here,

:41:41. > :41:44.that is it, it is closed? Where does it say in the Hansard debates that I

:41:45. > :41:46.have hear from our debates on the Dubs Amendment that we will only

:41:47. > :42:07.help lone child refugees for six months? Where does

:42:08. > :42:10.it say that instead of the 3000 that Parliament debated, we will help

:42:11. > :42:13.only a tenth of that number. Where does it say that when we get the

:42:14. > :42:15.chance we will turn our backs once again? It doesn't, because we did

:42:16. > :42:18.not say that at the time. The Home Secretary knows that what she is

:42:19. > :42:20.doing is shameful. Not only has she closed the programme but also

:42:21. > :42:22.cancelled the fast-track Dublin scheme to help those with family

:42:23. > :42:25.that are here. The Home Secretary did good work in autumn last year

:42:26. > :42:28.and I commended her for it, to help those in Calais and make sure that

:42:29. > :42:31.we could take as many children as possible. But she also knows most of

:42:32. > :42:34.those have family here already and they were entitled to be year. She

:42:35. > :42:35.said local councils can't do more, the truth is many local councils

:42:36. > :42:55.have said they can with more support or more time. It takes time

:42:56. > :42:58.to set up the schemes and they should not be closed down so

:42:59. > :43:00.quickly, and there are still so many Children In Need of help. She knows

:43:01. > :43:02.there are thousands in Greece in overcrowded accommodation or

:43:03. > :43:04.homeless, or in Italy, still at risk of human trafficking. Teenagers in

:43:05. > :43:07.French centres being closed down, they have nowhere left to go. She

:43:08. > :43:09.talked about clearing Calais, they are heading back to Calais, back to

:43:10. > :43:12.Dunkirk, back to the mud, the danger, back to the arms of the

:43:13. > :43:14.people traffickers, the smugglers, the exploitation, abuse,

:43:15. > :43:19.prostitution rings, back into the modern slavery that this parliament

:43:20. > :43:21.and this Government has pledged to end.

:43:22. > :43:25.Yvette Cooper making a point to the Home Secretary Amber Rudd, Yvette

:43:26. > :43:42.Cooper is a Labour MP and chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee.

:43:43. > :43:42.We will keep listening across to the conversation and more on that story

:43:43. > :43:45.throughout the day here on BBC News. We will talk to another Labour MP

:43:46. > :43:52.now about the accurate three issue. -- about the A issue. Luciano

:43:53. > :43:59.Berger is on the Health Select Committee. Leaked figures show that

:44:00. > :44:03.January is even worse than December. How do you respond? These are the

:44:04. > :44:07.barometer of our health service and these figures are the worst and it

:44:08. > :44:10.began in 2004 and shines a spotlight on how desperate it is across the

:44:11. > :44:14.NHS system for hundreds and thousands of people across the

:44:15. > :44:18.country. Would it be different if Labour was in power? Most certainly

:44:19. > :44:27.it would. The decisions that have been made since 2010, whether it is

:44:28. > :44:29.the cuts we have seen to social care, the reorganisation of the NHS,

:44:30. > :44:32.which cost billions of pounds and has created pressure in the system,

:44:33. > :44:35.all the cuts we have seen elsewhere which mean that people turn up at

:44:36. > :44:41.accident and emergency because they find themselves in a crisis or find

:44:42. > :44:46.themselves in an acute physical health condition, it is where people

:44:47. > :44:54.end up. I saw it myself first-hand when I was in A a few weeks ago.

:44:55. > :44:58.What happened? I was told to go by my GP because of a suspected clot on

:44:59. > :45:03.the long, I am pregnant, as you can see, and found myself waiting for

:45:04. > :45:07.over 5.5 hours before I was put on a trolley, so I will be in the

:45:08. > :45:14.statistics that come out next month. I was kept in A for over 20 hours.

:45:15. > :45:19.How long were you on a trolley? In the waiting room for 5.5 hours, then

:45:20. > :45:25.on a trolley, I came around 8pm and it was not until 8am the next day

:45:26. > :45:28.that I was put on a bed. I have heard first-hand from the staff,

:45:29. > :45:32.talking amongst themselves at the shift changeover, you heard them

:45:33. > :45:37.saying how, in their view, it was unsafe on that evening that I had

:45:38. > :45:41.been in A The triage nurse herself said to me that they were

:45:42. > :45:47.not able to meet their own safety procedures. I was 30 weeks pregnant

:45:48. > :45:50.at the time and they told me how normally I would be taken straight

:45:51. > :45:57.through but unfortunately because of the volume of people there, many

:45:58. > :46:01.ambulances that were waiting to admit people into hospital, it was

:46:02. > :46:07.totally overflowing. Are you all right? I'm fine thank you, yes. You

:46:08. > :46:11.only have to look at programmes we have seen on the BBC across the past

:46:12. > :46:15.week to know that this is the reality on the ground, we have seen

:46:16. > :46:21.the goalposts move, 2004 when the A waiting time targets was set up

:46:22. > :46:26.at 90%, the coalition Government reduced it down to 95%, you heard

:46:27. > :46:29.from your health editor how the Government may move the goalposts

:46:30. > :46:31.again. What we need is a focus on what to do to fix the problem,

:46:32. > :46:41.rather than mass kit. I want to ask about the historic

:46:42. > :46:45.night in the Commons last night, historic night for Theresa May and

:46:46. > :46:49.the Brexit bill. You voted against it, against Jeremy Corbyn's

:46:50. > :46:54.instructions. Labour failed to amend the bill at all. There were loads of

:46:55. > :46:59.amendments. Your party is in a mess over it, aren't they? I put my name

:47:00. > :47:04.to many amendments, the majority of which we voted on last night for

:47:05. > :47:09.many hours. One in particular was clause 11, the specific pledge that

:47:10. > :47:14.even those constituents of mine who voted to leave the EU tell me was

:47:15. > :47:21.one of the motivating factors that led them, this pledge of ?350

:47:22. > :47:25.million for the NHS, very relevant to the discussion. And it failed. It

:47:26. > :47:31.failed. I represent a constituency in the city of Liverpool, 50% voted

:47:32. > :47:34.to remain and for the figures that have been extrapolated, it was

:47:35. > :47:38.higher for my own constituency. I've seen first-hand the benefit of what

:47:39. > :47:42.being in the European Union means for us, in terms of investment and

:47:43. > :47:46.jobs. I don't think anyone has a mandate, irrespective of what the

:47:47. > :47:51.decision was by the country, to lead us down a path that was the economic

:47:52. > :47:57.ruin. Rex is happening, it is going to happen. But the challengers,

:47:58. > :48:01.terms of... One of the reasons I made the decision, it was a

:48:02. > :48:05.principled decision and I respect those who had different principles

:48:06. > :48:10.and voted in different ways. One of the reasons was essentially Article

:48:11. > :48:14.50 will now be triggered and it is a time-limited moment. I'm very

:48:15. > :48:18.concerned we are not in anyway or shape prepared to content with the

:48:19. > :48:22.realities and challenges we will face as the country, to negotiate

:48:23. > :48:24.our way down this path. Thank you very much, Luciana Berger, thank you

:48:25. > :48:26.for coming on programme. We will talk about that with

:48:27. > :48:35.scientists in the next few minutes. MPs will today debate a motion

:48:36. > :48:38.of 'no confidence' into how Greg Clarke, the Chairman of the FA,

:48:39. > :48:45.which is England's football's governing body, says he'll resign

:48:46. > :48:50.if they don't back his reform plans. I spoke to Damian Collins,

:48:51. > :48:52.who's the chairman of an influential group of MPs sitting on the Culture,

:48:53. > :48:55.Media and Sport Committee, and former FA executive

:48:56. > :49:02.Adrian Bevington, About if Parliament should get

:49:03. > :49:05.involved in this. The running of the FA in England,

:49:06. > :49:10.what does it have to do with you and your colleagues? We were invited by

:49:11. > :49:13.three former chairman of the football Association and Chief

:49:14. > :49:16.Executive 's to propose legislation to reform the FA. There has been

:49:17. > :49:20.debate for many years about the need for the FA to reformat and

:49:21. > :49:23.restructure. The chairman saying it is impossible for the FA to reform

:49:24. > :49:26.itself because it requires lots of big interest in trouble giving up

:49:27. > :49:31.hours they enjoy and they won't do that. So they offend the only way

:49:32. > :49:35.you can restructure or read from the FA as if legislation is passed to.

:49:36. > :49:40.You worked for the English FA for many years, are the former chairman

:49:41. > :49:44.right? The only way to change the FA is for the government to introduce

:49:45. > :49:57.legislation? Well, I'd like to see Greg Clark being given the chance to

:49:58. > :50:01.actually propose reforms he's been working on, before we try and sign

:50:02. > :50:06.off on that lets give the current chairman chance to deliver. Is there

:50:07. > :50:11.any reason to think Greg Clark can deliver when Greg Dyke couldn't,

:50:12. > :50:14.David Bernstein couldn't and various other men?. There is an air of

:50:15. > :50:19.confidence coming from within the FA at the moment with regards to this.

:50:20. > :50:22.I've spoken to various people. I believed the deadline everyone was

:50:23. > :50:28.working to is towards the end of March, beginning of April, which is

:50:29. > :50:31.what the sports minister says. Greg has been all over the country

:50:32. > :50:36.meeting with the stakeholders. There is a real commitment within the FA,

:50:37. > :50:41.that has been for a long time, to improve much needed diversity,

:50:42. > :50:48.especially FA council level. We need many more women involved, both that

:50:49. > :50:53.council and at board level. Damian Collins, your own sport select

:50:54. > :50:58.committee is much smaller than the FA Council, about the same size as

:50:59. > :51:01.the FA board. What is the make up of your own committee? We only have one

:51:02. > :51:08.woman on the committee. Is everyone white? Yes, everyone white and only

:51:09. > :51:12.one woman. Why I do the right people to debate this? This issue goes back

:51:13. > :51:16.years in Parliament. Why are you the right people to debate this? We are

:51:17. > :51:23.the sports committee of Parliament, we have put forward proposals in the

:51:24. > :51:28.past. You don't represent the population either. I wish there were

:51:29. > :51:32.more women on the committee and in Parliament. That is a side issue.

:51:33. > :51:35.There is no dispute across Parliament about the proposals we've

:51:36. > :51:38.put forward. The reason we are having the debate today is to say we

:51:39. > :51:41.have strong views, lots of people have strong views, let's ask the

:51:42. > :51:45.whole of the House of Commons if they agree with us, that legislation

:51:46. > :51:50.is the only way to reform the FA? Do they agree with the former FA

:51:51. > :51:56.chairman that you can only reform it with registration? The final fought

:51:57. > :52:00.with you, the German Greg Clark has upped the stakes and said he will

:52:01. > :52:04.resign as chairman if he fails to deliver the reforms he wants to get

:52:05. > :52:08.through. -- the chairman Greg Clark. What are the chance of him getting

:52:09. > :52:11.those reforms through? I hope he doesn't resign. I'm increasingly

:52:12. > :52:16.confident from what I've been told that the work he's doing internally,

:52:17. > :52:19.across the game and also the working relationship he has with Tracy

:52:20. > :52:24.Crouch will not lead to that. I hope we can continue with Greg Clark as

:52:25. > :52:28.chairman in a much more diverse FA, following on with the good work they

:52:29. > :52:29.already do, which is often forgotten. Thank you both very much

:52:30. > :52:38.for coming on the programme. Richard Conway joins us. If they

:52:39. > :52:43.don't reform, what could they do? Any sporting body that receives

:52:44. > :52:49.lottery funding public funding could lose that if they don't meet new

:52:50. > :52:53.requirements. That means gender diversity on boards, boards being

:52:54. > :52:59.the decision-makers. Money could be taken away from the FA and given to

:53:00. > :53:03.other organisations. The big question for the men on the

:53:04. > :53:06.councillors do they care about that? The FA can live without that money.

:53:07. > :53:10.That is what is at stake. Greg Clark has to convince the FA councillors

:53:11. > :53:12.that they really need to change otherwise is cash could be gone.

:53:13. > :53:21.Thank you very much, Richard. The developments in evolution

:53:22. > :53:23.between humans and our ape ancestors Now, scientists may have uncovered

:53:24. > :53:26.the origins of human language. Researchers from Durham and

:53:27. > :53:28.Liverpool John Moore Universities spent years eavesdropping

:53:29. > :53:30.on Orangutans, and they analysed more than 5,000 of their "kiss

:53:31. > :53:34.squeaks" that sound like this. We can speak to Professor Serge

:53:35. > :53:53.Wich, a Primate Biologist at Liverpool John Moore University

:53:54. > :54:04.who is the lead author in the study. Hello professor, good morning. What

:54:05. > :54:07.is that kiss squeak, what are they saying to each other when they make

:54:08. > :54:12.that noise? They say several things to each other. They can say, I am

:54:13. > :54:16.from this particular population. It gives information about who they

:54:17. > :54:20.are, whether they are male or female and also a little bit about the

:54:21. > :54:24.context in which they make the sound. It provides quite a bit of

:54:25. > :54:31.information in a very odd sounding sound. Yeah. What does it have to do

:54:32. > :54:35.with the way we speak? Well, all our words were made of

:54:36. > :54:40.Constance and vowels. A lot of our research has focused on fouls and we

:54:41. > :54:52.always thought most of the information is in vowel sounds. Now

:54:53. > :54:57.this is a consonant sound, a lot of information about population and

:54:58. > :55:00.context. It means early on in our revolution the consonant sounds

:55:01. > :55:06.might have been important to relay messages. OK, I'm not sure I quite

:55:07. > :55:13.understand that Professor. I'm sorry. Are you saying the kiss

:55:14. > :55:18.squeaks are consonants? We always thought they did not contain much

:55:19. > :55:22.information, that they were basically like an alarm call, just

:55:23. > :55:28.saying, I'm afraid or something like that, but now we've discovered there

:55:29. > :55:34.is as much information on these as in some of the vowel sounds that

:55:35. > :55:38.primates make. That means we look at a different way of how these might

:55:39. > :55:47.have been combined by our early ancestors. Right, I understand now.

:55:48. > :55:51.So that obviously illustrates all potentially illustrates how our

:55:52. > :55:56.language evolved? Yes, exactly. Because it's sort of a

:55:57. > :56:02.mystery how those early phases of language and evolution happened,

:56:03. > :56:07.were there first consonants or vowels, how are they combined and

:56:08. > :56:14.what were the information being conveyed by the sounds? Now we think

:56:15. > :56:18.they were combined in a way to make a message redundant, so, in a way,

:56:19. > :56:24.the same message was repeated twice, both in a vowel sound or in a

:56:25. > :56:27.consonant sound, because the consonant contained so much

:56:28. > :56:31.information as well. Are the orangutans saying anything else...

:56:32. > :56:37.Could they be saying any other things apart from I'm a male, I'm

:56:38. > :56:41.here and I'm ready to reproduce if you want? They have a large number

:56:42. > :56:46.of sounds that they used in a whole array of contacts. These differ

:56:47. > :56:51.between populations. For instance the sound a mother uses to call an

:56:52. > :56:55.infant differs between populations. It's like a dialect. The sounds that

:56:56. > :56:59.they make when they built a nest every evening differ between

:57:00. > :57:03.populations as well. Those are dialects as well. Thank you very

:57:04. > :57:09.much, Professor. Thank you for coming on the programme.

:57:10. > :57:14.Yesterday we told you the High Court in Malawi had granted madonna

:57:15. > :57:19.permission to adopt twins from the country. Today she has posted this

:57:20. > :57:24.picture on social media. Let's take a look. Confirming she has adopted

:57:25. > :57:28.the little girls. She says she is overjoyed that they are now part of

:57:29. > :57:31.her family and also said, "I'm deeply grateful to all of those

:57:32. > :57:36.allowing that make this possible and I asked the media du Preez respect

:57:37. > :57:43.our privacy during this transitional time. " thank you to Mark, a

:57:44. > :57:48.landlord who said, I'm fed up of attacks on landlord, you need to

:57:49. > :57:53.balance the views so you reflect how many tenants neglect properties and

:57:54. > :57:58.refuse to pay rent and landlord tough to put up with this for many

:57:59. > :58:03.months while strike to remove them and are left with bills of thousands

:58:04. > :58:08.of pounds to repair the damage. With no chance of making good the

:58:09. > :58:10.damage is. Most landlords are conscientious and provide decent

:58:11. > :58:14.properties for decent tenants but coverage in the media is almost

:58:15. > :58:19.always biased, in favour of tenants rights. A quick one from Andrew, I'm

:58:20. > :58:22.not sure the main issue is lack of enforcement. Personally I would

:58:23. > :58:25.think mainly people don't know about this law that protects tenants in

:58:26. > :58:29.that way. Thank you for those, we are back

:58:30. > :58:31.tomorrow at 9am. Business life is next,

:58:32. > :58:36.When author Sir Terry Pratchett died,

:58:37. > :58:41.They called on Death to give Terry back.