17/02/2017

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:11. > :00:15.Tony Blair says voting for Brexit was a massive mistake and he's

:00:16. > :00:19.going to make it his mission to change people's minds.

:00:20. > :00:25.He's making a major speech in central London shortly.

:00:26. > :00:33.He will call for people who campaigned to remain to rise up and

:00:34. > :00:35.stop taking Britain over the cliff edge.

:00:36. > :00:37.Another setback for Donald Trump as his choice for National Security

:00:38. > :00:42.It comes as the President makes another stinging

:00:43. > :00:53.I turn on the TV, open the newspapers and I see stories of

:00:54. > :00:58.chaos, chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite. This administration is

:00:59. > :01:02.running like a fine tuned machine. Also today, as London

:01:03. > :01:04.fashion week gets underway, we'll be talking to a panel

:01:05. > :01:06.of industry insiders about how the fashion

:01:07. > :01:08.industry is creating jobs, contributing billions

:01:09. > :01:10.to the economy, and why it's set to grow even more by the end

:01:11. > :01:24.of the decade. Welcome to the programme,

:01:25. > :01:30.we're live until 11am this morning. Let us know whether you welcome

:01:31. > :01:32.Tony Blair's intervention Plus, do you text your

:01:33. > :01:39.children in their rooms? Is it simply easier

:01:40. > :01:42.than shouting up the stairs or another nail in the coffin

:01:43. > :01:46.of healthy family life? Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:47. > :01:50.we're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE

:01:51. > :01:53.and if you text, you will be charged Former Prime Minister Tony Blair

:01:54. > :02:00.says he wants people to rise up During a speech in the next half

:02:01. > :02:05.hour he'll say that voters made their decisions without knowing

:02:06. > :02:07.the real damage that Downing Street says

:02:08. > :02:10.it is "absolutely committed" Let's speak to our Political

:02:11. > :02:24.Correspondent, Tom Bateman. What are you expecting to hear from

:02:25. > :02:28.him? We have known what Tony Blair thinks about Brexit for some time,

:02:29. > :02:32.saying he thinks it would be catastrophic for Britain but what is

:02:33. > :02:37.different and new about this speech and what is significant is that it

:02:38. > :02:43.is explicitly a rallying cry, an expression of mission that those who

:02:44. > :02:45.campaigned on the Remain side should effectively continue to do so,

:02:46. > :02:51.continued to make the case for Britain staying in the EU and the

:02:52. > :02:56.language here is something that I think Tony Blair's critics will be

:02:57. > :03:01.infuriated by also he called on those Remain campaign to rise up and

:03:02. > :03:06.to attempt to change people's minds over Brexit so those people who

:03:07. > :03:11.voted for it, he wants them essentially to think again. He talks

:03:12. > :03:16.about a range of issues from immigration to potential break-up of

:03:17. > :03:19.the UK over the Brexit vote but in essence he says the way the

:03:20. > :03:24.government is taking this is to what he called the cliff edge, a

:03:25. > :03:27.so-called hard Brexit, and as the negotiating process goes on, he

:03:28. > :03:32.thinks it will become clearer that is not in the interests of Britain.

:03:33. > :03:36.How much impact will it have? Quite a bit, people are talking about it

:03:37. > :03:41.already and as you can imagine, those who campaigned for Brexit are

:03:42. > :03:45.pretty cross about it. Iain Duncan Smith has said that this is bullying

:03:46. > :03:53.and cajoling and lecturing by Tony Blair and he believes it make the

:03:54. > :03:56.exact point about what is wrong, that it is classic elitism and

:03:57. > :03:59.people who are out of touch and don't understand the Democratic

:04:00. > :04:03.vote. Interestingly, even those in the remaining campaign, some of

:04:04. > :04:08.those are not happy about this and one of the bosses of the official

:04:09. > :04:12.campaign has tweeted, saying she does not agree with it and the job

:04:13. > :04:18.of those who campaigned for Remain is now to accept the Democratic

:04:19. > :04:22.vote. And to fight for the best version of Brexit but not to fight

:04:23. > :04:26.Brexit itself. I think there will be those who are concerned that

:04:27. > :04:30.effectively Tony Blair has a toxic legacy that will even hardened the

:04:31. > :04:35.divisions over this and not help their cause. Thank you. We will take

:04:36. > :04:37.that speech live which is good start at about 9:30am.

:04:38. > :04:40.Ben is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of the rest

:04:41. > :04:43.President Trump's choice to be his new national security

:04:44. > :04:47.Vice Admiral Robert Harward cited personal reasons for declining

:04:48. > :04:49.the offer to replace General Mike Flynn, who resigned

:04:50. > :04:52.earlier this week over revelations about discussions he'd had

:04:53. > :04:56.with Russia's ambassador to America over sanctions.

:04:57. > :05:01.In a statement, Mr Harward, who carried out a security

:05:02. > :05:04.role for President Bush, said he couldn't make the 24 hour

:05:05. > :05:13.a day, seven day a week commitment required for the job.

:05:14. > :05:15.Well, earlier, Donald Trump has launched a ferocious attack

:05:16. > :05:18.on the media while defending his record during his first

:05:19. > :05:26.He insisted his administration was running like a fine tuned machine

:05:27. > :05:28.and he told reporters that level of dishonesty was out of control.

:05:29. > :05:31.Our North America Editor Jon Sopel was there.

:05:32. > :05:33.Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.

:05:34. > :05:35.At short notice a news conference was announced to be

:05:36. > :05:40.given by the president - highly unusual.

:05:41. > :05:42.Ostensibly to announce his new choice as Labor Secretary,

:05:43. > :05:45.but really it was to get a whole lot off his chest.

:05:46. > :05:48.Because the press is honestly out of control, the level of dishonesty

:05:49. > :05:51.And the idea that his administration was in meltdown?

:05:52. > :05:54.Nothing could be further from the truth.

:05:55. > :05:57.I turn on the TV, open the newspapers and I see

:05:58. > :06:01.stories of chaos - chaos - yet it is

:06:02. > :06:08.This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine.

:06:09. > :06:12.But how could he reconcile that with the travel ban that has been

:06:13. > :06:15.A question I asked after a little back and forth.

:06:16. > :06:18.Can I just ask you - thank you very much, Mr President...

:06:19. > :06:35.On the travel ban, would you accept that that was a good example

:06:36. > :06:37.of the smooth running of government, the fine tuning...

:06:38. > :06:49.We had a very smooth roll-out of the travel ban.

:06:50. > :06:56.We're going to put in a new executive order next week sometime.

:06:57. > :06:59.The other thing that the president is in a rage about is the suggestion

:07:00. > :07:01.that he's in the pockets of the Russians.

:07:02. > :07:12.Donald Trump said his administration would crack down on the leaking

:07:13. > :07:15.of classified information and then, at the end, something you never see

:07:16. > :07:18.at a White House news conference - the President being heckled.

:07:19. > :07:21.REPORTER: If you have no connection to Russia why

:07:22. > :07:23.won't you release your tax returns and prove it?

:07:24. > :07:32.Ten British tourists are being treated in hospital

:07:33. > :07:37.in Norway after a speedboat hit the base of a water fountain.

:07:38. > :07:39.It happened in the harbour of the town of Harstad,

:07:40. > :07:43.Two people are reported to have been seriously injured.

:07:44. > :07:50.What started out as a pleasure cruise ended in a dramatic rescue.

:07:51. > :07:53.These British tourists were left in near-freezing waters for around

:07:54. > :07:55.15 minutes before being rescued after they'd been

:07:56. > :07:58.The party had been returning from a sightseeing trip off

:07:59. > :08:01.the shores of Harstad when one of the speedboats crashed

:08:02. > :08:05.into the base of a water feature which wasn't working at the time.

:08:06. > :08:08.A second boat following behind is thought to have been

:08:09. > :08:10.caught up in the incident, which happened around

:08:11. > :08:22.TRANSLATION: All of the passengers have been brought to hospital

:08:23. > :08:28.We will contact all of them later to further investigate.

:08:29. > :08:31.We will also talk to the boat drivers and people

:08:32. > :08:49.A spokesman for the Surrey-based holiday company Inghams said

:08:50. > :08:52.the tourists all arrived in Norway on Wednesday and were due to return

:08:53. > :09:05.A couple from West Yorkshire have won damages, after their week-old

:09:06. > :09:09.baby was taken off them by social workers, due to what authorities

:09:10. > :09:13.said were the father's "unorthodox views" about formula milk.

:09:14. > :09:16.Kirklees Council has been ordered to pay the family more than ?11,000

:09:17. > :09:18.for taking the infant after medical staff expressed concern

:09:19. > :09:25.The High Court heard how authorities falsely claimed the parents had

:09:26. > :09:31.In sentencing, the judge said there was no doubt in his mind

:09:32. > :09:35.the council had violated the family's human rights.

:09:36. > :09:37.The founder of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, says he fears that

:09:38. > :09:40.millions of people who feel left behind by globalisation,

:09:41. > :09:45.are withdrawing from what he calls the "connected world".

:09:46. > :09:47.In an interview with the BBC, he said fake news and "filter

:09:48. > :09:50.bubbles", where people only heard opinions they already agreed with,

:09:51. > :10:05.Commuters on Southern rail are facing the prospect of more

:10:06. > :10:08.disruption after a deal to end the dispute over who should open the

:10:09. > :10:10.train doors was rejected by the members of the union, Aslef.

:10:11. > :10:13.Under the proposed agreement, Southern would have been able to run

:10:14. > :10:15.trains without a guard or onboard supervisor under

:10:16. > :10:18.Southern says it's hugely disappointed and will be seeking

:10:19. > :10:24.The Business Secretary, Greg Clark, is expected to report back

:10:25. > :10:27.to the government after holding talks in Paris on the future

:10:28. > :10:30.of thousands of jobs in the car industry.

:10:31. > :10:32.Peugeot-owner PSA is looking to take over the European

:10:33. > :10:34.arm of General Motors, which includes the Vauxhall

:10:35. > :10:39.Mr Clark says he will remain in close contact with both firms

:10:40. > :10:44.Union officials yesterday said British industry must be

:10:45. > :10:51.American scientists attempting to bring the woolly mammoth back

:10:52. > :10:54.from extinction believe they are close to a breakthrough.

:10:55. > :10:57.Mammoths died out over 4,000 years ago but the team

:10:58. > :10:59.from Harvard University is using DNA retrieved from specimens found

:11:00. > :11:07.They claim that in the next two years they will be able to mix it

:11:08. > :11:09.with Asian elephants to create new hybrid embryos.

:11:10. > :11:11.But they also admit a living, breathing mammoth is

:11:12. > :11:19.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:11:20. > :11:34.Thank you. You are sending in your thoughts on Tony Blair and the

:11:35. > :11:38.speech he will be making, calling on people to rise up against Brexit. We

:11:39. > :11:43.will take that live when it begins. Anthony says, Tony Blair should be

:11:44. > :11:47.careful about what he says. If he will tell people to rise up and

:11:48. > :11:54.change the Brexit referendum result, it could cause riots. Tina says that

:11:55. > :11:58.he is right and the decision to leave was insane and the referendum

:11:59. > :12:00.was not a mandate. Robert said this man should be confined to history.

:12:01. > :12:02.Thank you for those. Do get in touch with us

:12:03. > :12:04.throughout the morning. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE

:12:05. > :12:12.and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some support. Manchester

:12:13. > :12:16.United are all but through to the last 16 of the Europa League but

:12:17. > :12:22.their manager still isn't happy what is wrong? Jose Mourinho is rarely

:12:23. > :12:29.happy! I have a theory, when he shaves his head he turns into Mr

:12:30. > :12:35.grumpy! Or maybe the building works are keeping him awake but in all

:12:36. > :12:40.serious, Manchester United were 3-0 winners. The world's most expensive

:12:41. > :12:50.player, Paul Pogba, came up against his brother. His brother plays for

:12:51. > :12:54.Saint-Etienne. That was his family. They were wearing half and half

:12:55. > :12:57.shirts and scars. This was Manchester United going into a 2-0

:12:58. > :13:10.lead, Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored a hat-trick. But look how happy Jose

:13:11. > :13:18.is after the game. I had the feeling immediately in the dressing room,

:13:19. > :13:25.too noisy and funny and relaxed. And my existence have the feeling in the

:13:26. > :13:33.warming up with some of the guys not really focused on getting the right

:13:34. > :13:39.adrenaline in their bodies -- my assistance. Spurs able to do if they

:13:40. > :13:48.want to make the last 16 after they lost 1-0 against Gent who are

:13:49. > :13:52.mid-table in the Belgian league. Spurs have a bad record at Wembley

:13:53. > :13:57.which is where the second leg will be played next Thursday. And an

:13:58. > :14:03.interesting one, Eugenie Bouchard went on a date with a fan after a

:14:04. > :14:10.bet on Twitter? She went on a date and the top news is that she has

:14:11. > :14:13.agreed to a second date! It is with the guy called John from Chicago who

:14:14. > :14:18.happens to be pretty good-looking. They had a bet on Twitter after she

:14:19. > :14:27.said there was no way renewing the Patriot would win the Super Bowl but

:14:28. > :14:33.they did. John said that if they do, will you go on a debate. They went

:14:34. > :14:39.to watch the Voeckler nets. Since then -- the Brooklyn nets. Since

:14:40. > :14:46.then he has sent over a pair of expensive earrings. They have agreed

:14:47. > :14:51.to go on a second date. She said that he was just a normal fan and it

:14:52. > :14:57.was complete luck. The cynic in me thinks this might be slightly

:14:58. > :15:03.staged! But they look very happy. The second date is on. That is

:15:04. > :15:07.horribly cynical! I am watching thinking, if you don't ask, you

:15:08. > :15:13.don't get! I have sent her a treat myself today, genuinely, to come to

:15:14. > :15:14.Manchester to watch the Greyhound racing but he hasn't got back to me

:15:15. > :15:17.yet! Keep us posted and good luck. London Fashion Week kicks off today

:15:18. > :15:21.as a host of top and up-and-coming names descend on the capital

:15:22. > :15:24.for the 65th edition of the event. More than 5,000 guests,

:15:25. > :15:25.including buyers and journalists from over 49 countries,

:15:26. > :15:27.are set to attend. But it's about much

:15:28. > :15:30.more than looking good. The UK fashion industry makes

:15:31. > :15:32.a direct contribution In 2015, sales of womenswear

:15:33. > :15:39.in the UK was ?27 billion pounds, And 880,000 jobs are supported

:15:40. > :15:49.by the UK fashion industry. Paula Knorr, a fashion

:15:50. > :15:53.designer showcasing Martell "Mr Flyy" Campbell,

:15:54. > :15:57.a designer, stylist Jenni Sutton, a development manager

:15:58. > :16:03.at Fashion-Enter, which manufactures garments in their factory

:16:04. > :16:06.for the likes of Asos. Natasha Pearlman, editor

:16:07. > :16:10.of Grazia magazine. Razina Bapu, a pattern cutting

:16:11. > :16:27.apprentice at Fashion-Enter. It is so interesting to talk about

:16:28. > :16:34.the business of fashion and how much it is boosting the nation's coffers.

:16:35. > :16:38.Jennifer, you are a great example of the fashion industry and how it is

:16:39. > :16:44.working well at the moment, manufacturing garments in London for

:16:45. > :16:51.which brands? We manufacture for Asos, Marks Spencer best of

:16:52. > :16:54.British. But we also do a lot of small production runs for

:16:55. > :17:00.independent brands like new business start-ups, London Fashion Week

:17:01. > :17:07.designers. It is really across the range. Why are people coming to you?

:17:08. > :17:11.Not long ago, a lot of manufacturing would be happening in China and

:17:12. > :17:16.India, countries where production costs are much lower. It is becoming

:17:17. > :17:19.more attractive to manufacture in Britain. There is a real topical

:17:20. > :17:25.debate over the made in Britain flag. It is not actually that much

:17:26. > :17:30.more expensive. You have got things like oil prices that are going up

:17:31. > :17:36.and the transportation costs to get over to India and China. We have a

:17:37. > :17:39.three-week turnaround, so it is fast fashion. Retailers can come to our

:17:40. > :17:45.factories at any point to monitor their collections. It is all about

:17:46. > :17:56.the quality and competitiveness, and we are quick and reliable. Natasha,

:17:57. > :17:59.how is the UK seen globally in terms of fashion? For me, it is one of the

:18:00. > :18:05.most exciting cities to be in, London. It is where people come for

:18:06. > :18:08.creativity. People come from all over the world to see the new talent

:18:09. > :18:14.that is popping out. There are people like Christopher Kane who was

:18:15. > :18:19.invested in by one of the biggest luxury firms in the world. This is

:18:20. > :18:22.where the home talent is grown. Alexander McQueen came from here.

:18:23. > :18:28.And look at the amazing new talent coming up. These people are on an

:18:29. > :18:32.international scale and they came from the London fashion scene. And

:18:33. > :18:36.how do we compare with the other big fashion capitals, New York, Milan,

:18:37. > :18:42.Paris? Milan is the big business capital. If you look at all the

:18:43. > :18:46.brands that are based there, they are big mega brands like Gucci and

:18:47. > :18:51.Prada that have been established for a long time. If you go to Paris,

:18:52. > :18:55.that is again lots of established old houses like Louis Vuitton and

:18:56. > :19:00.Chanel comic huge names with huge influence on a global scale. London

:19:01. > :19:06.has the Burberrys, but it also has the new names. It is a real space

:19:07. > :19:10.for young talent and that is why people come to us, because we have

:19:11. > :19:17.the big names and we also have a focus on creativity. At Grazia, as a

:19:18. > :19:21.weekly magazine, we can cover so many, and we have watched designers

:19:22. > :19:30.grow from their first collections into the big insurance is. And

:19:31. > :19:37.sometimes very quickly. That is the thing. In London, we can find these

:19:38. > :19:42.people. The BFC is a massive supporter. We back and we invest in

:19:43. > :19:49.the new names as much as we back the big names. Paula, you are from

:19:50. > :19:55.Germany but you studied here and now you are doing well quickly because

:19:56. > :20:01.you graduated in 2015. And you are showcasing at London Fashion Week.

:20:02. > :20:05.Exactly. My second showcase at London Fashion Week is tomorrow

:20:06. > :20:12.morning. I did my first season in September. It is incredible. I come

:20:13. > :20:20.from Germany, and the support I got here in my studies and later from

:20:21. > :20:25.the BFC, the British fashion Council. What support have they

:20:26. > :20:30.given you? They have tonnes of supporting schemes, but I am part of

:20:31. > :20:35.new Jen and they helped me with the fashion show and most importantly,

:20:36. > :20:42.they have been mentoring the growing of my business. That is really

:20:43. > :20:47.helpful. I studied for my MA and I am a designer and this is what I

:20:48. > :20:56.learn. But I never experienced the whole business side, so it is great

:20:57. > :20:59.to have their support. Jennifer, how important her support beam from the

:21:00. > :21:04.British Fashion Council and other initiatives in terms of helping to

:21:05. > :21:07.grow the fashion industry? Because we are a business support

:21:08. > :21:12.organisation for young designers, it is so important to have those

:21:13. > :21:15.technical skills behind you. We see lots of creative designers leave

:21:16. > :21:22.university, but they don't necessarily know how to construct a

:21:23. > :21:25.garment. So we have a fashion technology academy and we do a

:21:26. > :21:29.stitching academy, and we are noticing more graduates coming to us

:21:30. > :21:33.to learn about fabrics and how to construct a garment, had to do

:21:34. > :21:41.pattern cutting. And in turn, that helps them create a viable

:21:42. > :21:47.collection. And in the industry, the model keeps mushrooming. Absolutely.

:21:48. > :21:56.Razina, you are one of the people showcasing your skills. Tell us what

:21:57. > :21:59.got you attracted into that? What I found interesting was that you get

:22:00. > :22:05.the practical skills as an apprentice. I don't think you get

:22:06. > :22:19.those as a university graduate. You don't know what to expect in the

:22:20. > :22:22.industry. People might dismiss the fashion business as being something

:22:23. > :22:29.that is a nicety, but we are talking about the hard facts of it being an

:22:30. > :22:33.important business for this country and a job creator, and you are one

:22:34. > :22:37.of the people at the sharp end of that. Yeah. Everyone thinks the

:22:38. > :22:41.fashion industry is just glamorous, but they don't know what goes on

:22:42. > :22:48.behind it. It is a lot more technical, and that is what we have

:22:49. > :22:51.got here. We get a design that the designer comes in with, and that

:22:52. > :22:59.they have annotations and a sketch. Everyone thinks it is just that, but

:23:00. > :23:04.there was more to it. So you make samples and you have different

:23:05. > :23:11.stages to assess the fit. Let's talk about how British clothes are

:23:12. > :23:16.growing in terms of the market. Martell, you are here to speak about

:23:17. > :23:24.the men's fashion in this country. That has suddenly seen a lot of

:23:25. > :23:32.growth. It is growing rapidly. There are a lot more options for men

:23:33. > :23:35.nowadays. We were talking about young designers and new designers.

:23:36. > :23:41.There are so many coming out of the menswear scene also. And again, with

:23:42. > :23:44.the BFC supporting certain designers, they stop from almost

:23:45. > :23:53.nothing and now they are well-established. And why do you

:23:54. > :24:02.think men's fashion is doing well here? London being one of the

:24:03. > :24:05.capitals of fashion, there is so much going on. There are so many

:24:06. > :24:15.cultures coming here and having influence here. None has so much to

:24:16. > :24:19.say -- London has so much to say, especially for open and street where

:24:20. > :24:23.designers. And Natasha, that feeds into what you were saying about the

:24:24. > :24:34.creativity of this country. It is so exciting that we have that. That is

:24:35. > :24:40.one of the things being debated over Brexit. At the moment, we have

:24:41. > :24:45.people coming over from Europe. Some of our big designers have come from

:24:46. > :24:50.Europe and made their names here and they consider themselves to be

:24:51. > :24:54.British designers. I have a stat here that people might find

:24:55. > :24:57.surprising, which is that the UK fashion industry, with that ?28

:24:58. > :25:01.billion direct contributing to the UK economy, is only three and a half

:25:02. > :25:05.times smaller than the UK's construction industry. How quickly

:25:06. > :25:10.has the fashion industry been growing here? The creative

:25:11. > :25:22.industries are the fastest-growing in the UK. Creative skills are more

:25:23. > :25:26.prized than ever before, because they can't be replicated by

:25:27. > :25:30.technology. You need those people. That is why it is exciting to be

:25:31. > :25:33.here in the creative industries, because it is mushrooming at such a

:25:34. > :25:39.rapid rate and because those skills can only come from the individual.

:25:40. > :25:41.How quickly has your business been growing, Jennifer? We have been

:25:42. > :25:45.established for ten years, but it has only been in the last five or

:25:46. > :25:49.six years that it has really grown in terms of our training at our

:25:50. > :25:54.factory, because it is so unique. We have a live factory doing 8000

:25:55. > :26:03.garments a week. But alongside that, we have a training academy. So even

:26:04. > :26:06.though the notion of being a designer is a fantastic career,

:26:07. > :26:09.people have to go back to the technical skills. And they are

:26:10. > :26:17.noticing that more by coming to our factory and learning stitching and

:26:18. > :26:22.patent -- pattern cutting. You said costs are very competitive now with

:26:23. > :26:26.production costs in the country is typically associated with cheaper

:26:27. > :26:29.production costs. But how competitive is it? When people think

:26:30. > :26:34.about Brexit going forward and more manufacturing in this country, is

:26:35. > :26:42.there an equation which might mean higher prices? We have all got used

:26:43. > :26:46.to paying cheap prices. That is why we started the stitching academy. We

:26:47. > :26:49.want to nurture home-grown talent so that people here can continue the

:26:50. > :26:54.stitching skills. So even with Brexit coming up, we want to make

:26:55. > :26:59.sure that manufacturing can thrive in this country to make sure people

:27:00. > :27:06.can stitch and pattern cut. It is competitive. About 70% of our

:27:07. > :27:10.production is for Asos. Jersey dresses, scuba dresses. M do a

:27:11. > :27:14.specific made in Britain range where they source fabric from Leicester

:27:15. > :27:20.and get the production done in London. We have retailers knocking

:27:21. > :27:24.on our door now more and more. It is definitely getting there. It is

:27:25. > :27:28.competitive and appealing to have production in the UK. Paula, there

:27:29. > :27:31.will be a lot of buyers and journalists at London Fashion Week.

:27:32. > :27:43.What could that mean for your business? Oh, that is what Ms it

:27:44. > :27:47.means when you have to showcase your brand. I am happy to be wholesaling

:27:48. > :27:55.to six stores already in my first season. I hope to add to that this

:27:56. > :28:02.season. It is exciting. I also have a showroom in Paris, so I am doing

:28:03. > :28:05.two different things. You are doing incredibly well very quickly. I know

:28:06. > :28:09.that you don't know what it was like before because you didn't work on it

:28:10. > :28:19.before, but is there a sense that it is easier to do things more quickly

:28:20. > :28:25.these days? Definitely, because there is an awareness with Instagram

:28:26. > :28:32.and social media. You can get snatched from an editor or stylist

:28:33. > :28:39.much more quickly. Or you can get in contact with people much quicker and

:28:40. > :28:44.they find you. It is also special in London because we have the big

:28:45. > :28:47.schools here, and people go to the big fashion shows and look at the

:28:48. > :28:53.graduate and then nurture them from the start. This is really unique in

:28:54. > :28:58.London. London is probably that the fashion capital where it is easiest

:28:59. > :29:03.to start to become big quite quickly. Martell, you will be

:29:04. > :29:08.blogging from London Fashion Week. Tell us what trends we should be

:29:09. > :29:19.looking out for, and how far ahead are they throwing forward to? From a

:29:20. > :29:29.menswear perspective, it is more wide silhouettes. The shapes are

:29:30. > :29:36.definitely looser, less tailored. But there is still the aspect of

:29:37. > :29:40.tailoring through and through. Nowadays, they are always in and

:29:41. > :29:44.out. So you find that there is a bit of consistency, and you find that

:29:45. > :29:50.some trends trickle into the next season. And the old trends are

:29:51. > :29:53.always getting revived. Great to talk to you all. Good luck with your

:29:54. > :29:55.businesses and enjoy Fashion Week. Tony Blair is about to

:29:56. > :29:59.make a speech on why Britons should change their minds

:30:00. > :30:01.about leaving the EU. And we'll get more reaction

:30:02. > :30:08.to President Trump's latest attack on the media,

:30:09. > :30:10.this time over coverage of how his Former Prime Minister Tony Blair

:30:11. > :30:30.says he wants people to rise up In a speech, Mr Blair

:30:31. > :30:35.will say that voters made their decisions without knowing

:30:36. > :30:40.the real damage that Downing Street says

:30:41. > :30:44.it is "absolutely committed" Prime Minister Theresa May plans

:30:45. > :30:49.to formally trigger formal Brexit talks by the end of March -

:30:50. > :30:52.a move that was backed in the House President Trump's choice

:30:53. > :30:58.to be his new national security Vice Admiral Robert Harward cited

:30:59. > :31:02.personal reasons for declining the offer to replace

:31:03. > :31:06.General Mike Flynn, who resigned earlier this week over revelations

:31:07. > :31:10.about discussions he'd had with Russia's ambassador

:31:11. > :31:19.to America over sanctions. Ten British tourists have been

:31:20. > :31:21.injured after a speedboat The holidaymakers and their

:31:22. > :31:25.local guide were thrown into the water when their speedboat

:31:26. > :31:28.hit the base of a water Two people are reported to be

:31:29. > :31:35.seriously hurt but none of the injuries are said

:31:36. > :31:40.to be life-threatening. A West Yorkshire couple have won

:31:41. > :31:44.damages after their week-old baby was taken off them by social workers

:31:45. > :31:47.due to what authorities called the father's "unorthodox

:31:48. > :31:51.views" about formula milk. Kirklees Council has been ordered

:31:52. > :31:54.to pay the family more than ?11,000 for taking the infant after medical

:31:55. > :31:56.staff expressed concern The High Court heard how authorities

:31:57. > :32:02.falsely claimed the parents had The judge ruled there was no doubt

:32:03. > :32:10.in his mind the council had violated The founder of Facebook,

:32:11. > :32:15.Mark Zuckerberg, says he fears that millions of people who feel left

:32:16. > :32:20.behind by globalisation, are withdrawing from what he calls

:32:21. > :32:22.the "connected world". In an interview with the BBC,

:32:23. > :32:25.he said fake news and "filter bubbles", where people only heard

:32:26. > :32:28.opinions they already agreed with, The Business Secretary, Greg Clark,

:32:29. > :32:35.is expected to report back to the government after holding

:32:36. > :32:37.talks in Paris on the future of thousands of jobs

:32:38. > :32:41.in the car industry. Peugeot owner PSA is looking

:32:42. > :32:44.to take over the European arm of General Motors,

:32:45. > :32:46.which includes the Vauxhall Mr Clark says he will remain

:32:47. > :32:55.in close contact with both firms Union officials yesterday said

:32:56. > :32:58.British industry must be That's a summary of the latest BBC

:32:59. > :33:06.News - more at 10.00. Now let's get the sports

:33:07. > :33:12.headlines with Will. Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored his first

:33:13. > :33:17.hat-trick for Manchester United in their 3-0 Europa League win over

:33:18. > :33:20.Saint-Etienne at Old Trafford. It gives a great chance of reaching

:33:21. > :33:23.the last 16 as they head Despite the win, Jose Mourinho says

:33:24. > :33:31.he was't happy with his after they lost away to Gent,

:33:32. > :33:38.a side in mid-table Spurs will have the chance to make

:33:39. > :33:42.amends at Wembley next Thursday. Huddersfield missed the chance to go

:33:43. > :33:47.top of rugby league's Super League - beaten by 30 points

:33:48. > :33:49.to 20 by Salford. Gareth O'Brian, scored 22

:33:50. > :33:52.points but it was Josh Jones' try, five minutes from time that sealed

:33:53. > :33:54.Salford's first win of the season. 15-year-old Jackson Page's

:33:55. > :33:56.remarkable run at the Welsh Open snooker is over -

:33:57. > :33:59.he was knocked out in the third Page returns to school

:34:00. > :34:06.with winnings of ?3,500 and says More for you coming up at 10am.

:34:07. > :34:13.Thank you. Tony Blair is to announce his

:34:14. > :34:15."mission" to persuade Britons to "rise up"

:34:16. > :34:17.and change their minds on Brexit. He's about to make a speech

:34:18. > :34:20.in Central London at an event organised by the pro-EU

:34:21. > :34:22.campaign group Open Britain. Let's get more from our

:34:23. > :34:35.Political Correspondent, What is he going to say? I think he

:34:36. > :34:39.will set out the way in which he believes those who campaigned to

:34:40. > :34:46.remain in the European Union should, in effect, continue to do so. This

:34:47. > :34:49.is a rallying cry, an expression of mission that people who believe that

:34:50. > :34:53.Britain was like a place in the EU should continue to try to persuade

:34:54. > :34:58.those who voted for Brexit that the future should be within the EU.

:34:59. > :35:05.There are some pretty strong words from somebody who we already knew

:35:06. > :35:12.who felt that Brexit would be a catastrophe for Britain. And he sets

:35:13. > :35:17.out the reasons for it in that he believes the government has become

:35:18. > :35:22.defined by Brexit and dominated by it. And he thinks that will lead

:35:23. > :35:27.Britain over what he called a cliff edge and therefore it is the duty of

:35:28. > :35:30.those who think this is not in our national interest, in effect, just

:35:31. > :35:35.to say so. I think it is an attempt to shape the agenda at what is a

:35:36. > :35:40.pretty critical time with the article 50 built about to go back to

:35:41. > :35:44.the House of Lords. The chances that it will make any difference are

:35:45. > :35:50.pretty slim but what he is clearly trying to do is to seek to bring the

:35:51. > :35:54.notion that we should remain in the EU backed up the agenda. Plenty of

:35:55. > :35:58.people are telling us what they think. One person says, I do not

:35:59. > :36:03.welcome the advice of Tony Blair. Michael says, he called it right on

:36:04. > :36:07.Brexit at the start, pointing out the division it would cause and he

:36:08. > :36:11.is right. Sivado said that Tony Blair ignored the millions who

:36:12. > :36:15.protested about the Iraqi war and now he wants an uprising. One person

:36:16. > :36:23.says, we knew what we were voting for.

:36:24. > :36:28.Childs says, we don't need Tony Blair to implement Brexit. David

:36:29. > :36:32.said that this is heartening news, something decisive has to happen to

:36:33. > :36:39.reverse the catastrophe that leaving the EU would be. David says, Tony

:36:40. > :36:42.Blair is demonstrating exactly the we know best attitude of the

:36:43. > :36:47.Westminster elite which contributed to the Brexit boat. His language is

:36:48. > :36:54.insulting in the extreme -- the Brexit vote. It is a thinly

:36:55. > :36:57.disguised way of saying Leave voters is stupid. His arrogance is

:36:58. > :37:01.staggering. I guess that gives a flavour of the divided reaction

:37:02. > :37:05.there is likely to be? And some of the sentiment in those messages are

:37:06. > :37:13.affected by those who campaigned for Brexit, and Conservative MP Iain

:37:14. > :37:16.Duncan Smith has said he believed Tony Blair is bullying and

:37:17. > :37:20.lecturing, and reflecting those views, saying it is everything that

:37:21. > :37:25.was wrong with some of those who campaigned to stay in the EU and

:37:26. > :37:29.this is elitism, not listening to what people have clearly said they

:37:30. > :37:33.want. But beyond that there are some interesting politics going on within

:37:34. > :37:38.the dynamics of those who wanted to stay in the EU, who campaigned for

:37:39. > :37:43.that. The majority of the Labour Party in Parliament has taken a

:37:44. > :37:48.tactical approach, that, in the end, the right thing to do was to accept

:37:49. > :37:53.the Article 50 bill, they have voted for that process which will open the

:37:54. > :37:58.door toward a leading and stopping the negotiation but in time to apply

:37:59. > :38:04.conditions. Thank you. I think he is just about to start. Good morning,

:38:05. > :38:08.everyone, it is a great pleasure to be with you, many thanks to

:38:09. > :38:15.Bloomberg for giving us this wonderful venue and many thanks to

:38:16. > :38:21.Open Britain for hosting this event and doing such an excellent job in

:38:22. > :38:27.the country. Thank you, Antoinette, for that kind introduction. It is

:38:28. > :38:32.people like you who give me hope for our country and our democracy so

:38:33. > :38:40.thank you. OK, I will get straight into it! I want to be explicit. Yes,

:38:41. > :38:43.the British people voted to leave Europe and I agree the will of the

:38:44. > :38:50.people should prevail. Except right now there is no widespread appetite

:38:51. > :38:58.to rethink. But the people voted without knowledge of the terms of

:38:59. > :39:05.Brexit. As these terms become clear, it is their right to change their

:39:06. > :39:12.mind. Our mission is to persuade them to do so. What was

:39:13. > :39:18.unfortunately only game in our site before the referendum is now in

:39:19. > :39:25.plain sight -- are only dim. The road we are going down is not simply

:39:26. > :39:34.hard Brexit, it is now Brexit at any cost. Our challenge is to expose

:39:35. > :39:37.relentlessly what that cost is, to show how the decision was based on

:39:38. > :39:46.imperfect knowledge which will now become informed knowledge, to

:39:47. > :39:49.calculate in easy to understand ways how proceeding will cause real

:39:50. > :39:54.damage to our country come and to build support for finding a way out

:39:55. > :40:04.of the present rush over the cliff's edge. I don't know if we can

:40:05. > :40:10.succeed, but I do know we will suffer a rancorous verdict from

:40:11. > :40:16.future generations if we don't try. How hideously in this debate is the

:40:17. > :40:22.mantle of Patrick isn't abused. We do not argue for Britain in Europe

:40:23. > :40:27.because we are citizens of nowhere. -- patriotism. We argue for it

:40:28. > :40:31.precisely because we are proud citizens of this country, Britain,

:40:32. > :40:35.who believe that in the 21st century we should maintain our partnership

:40:36. > :40:40.with the biggest political union, the largest commercial market on our

:40:41. > :40:45.doorstep, not in the munition of our national interest, but in

:40:46. > :40:51.satisfaction of it. -- diminution. Consider for a moment the surreal

:40:52. > :40:58.situation in which our nation finds itself. I make no personal criticism

:40:59. > :41:02.of the Prime Minister or the government. I know the Prime

:41:03. > :41:06.Minister is someone who cares about our country, who is trying to do the

:41:07. > :41:12.right thing as she sees it, and I know how demanding the job of

:41:13. > :41:16.leadership is. But just consider, nine months ago both she and the

:41:17. > :41:20.Chancellor were telling us that leaving would be bad for the

:41:21. > :41:25.country, its economy, its security, its place in the world. Today it is

:41:26. > :41:32.apparently wanted a generation opportunity for greatness. -- once

:41:33. > :41:36.in a generation. Seven months ago, after the referendum result, the

:41:37. > :41:42.Chancellor was telling us that leaving the single market would be,

:41:43. > :41:46."Catastrophic". Now it appears we will leave the single market and the

:41:47. > :41:51.customs union and he is very optimistic. Two years ago the

:41:52. > :41:59.Foreign Secretary was emphatically in favour of the single market, now

:42:00. > :42:03.pitching it is brilliant. -- teaching. The Prime Minister says

:42:04. > :42:08.she wants Britain to be a great, open trading nation and our first

:42:09. > :42:14.step in this endeavour? To leave the largest free trading bloc in the

:42:15. > :42:17.world. She wants Britain to be a bridge between the European Union

:42:18. > :42:22.and the United States of American author how to begin this? To get out

:42:23. > :42:27.of Europe, leaving us with no locus on the terrain where the bridge must

:42:28. > :42:31.be constructed. We are told that it is high time our capitalism became

:42:32. > :42:35.fairer. And how do we start laying the foundation for such a noble

:42:36. > :42:40.cause? By threatening Europe with a move to a low tax, light regulation

:42:41. > :42:49.economy, the antithesis of that cause. This jumble of contradictions

:42:50. > :42:53.shows that the Prime Minister and government are not masters of this

:42:54. > :42:58.situation, they are not driving this bus, they are being driven. And as

:42:59. > :43:04.we pass each milestone, so the landscape in which we are operating

:43:05. > :43:07.changes, not because we willed the change, but because this is the

:43:08. > :43:17.direction in which the bus is travelling. We will trigger Article

:43:18. > :43:20.50 not because we now know our destination, but because the

:43:21. > :43:27.politics of not doing so would alienate those driving the bus. And

:43:28. > :43:31.the surreal nature of this exercise in is enhanced by the curious

:43:32. > :43:37.absence of a big argument as to why this continues to be a good idea.

:43:38. > :43:41.Many of the main themes of the Brexit campaign barely survived the

:43:42. > :43:48.first weekend after the vote. Remember the ?350 million a week for

:43:49. > :43:55.the NHS? Virtually the only practical argument still advanced

:43:56. > :43:58.under the general rubric of taking back control of immigration and the

:43:59. > :44:04.European court of justice. On the European court, I would defy anyone

:44:05. > :44:08.to be able to recall any decisions which they might have heard of as

:44:09. > :44:12.opposed to the decisions of the European Court of Human Rights, a

:44:13. > :44:16.non-EU body. I can honestly say that during all my time as Prime

:44:17. > :44:21.Minister, there was no major domestic law that I wanted to pass

:44:22. > :44:28.which Europe told me I couldn't. It is true, European court rulings are

:44:29. > :44:32.important on technical issues, some which business likes and some they

:44:33. > :44:36.don't, but nobody would seriously argue that the ECJ alone provide a

:44:37. > :44:44.reasonable leaving Europe. Immigration is the issue. Net

:44:45. > :44:50.immigration into the UK was roughly 335,000 in the year to June 2016.

:44:51. > :44:56.But just over half was from outside the European Union. I know in some

:44:57. > :45:00.parts of the country there is a real concern about numbers from Europe

:45:01. > :45:06.and the pressures placed on services and wages. However, of these

:45:07. > :45:11.European Union immigrants, the Prime Minister has recently admitted that

:45:12. > :45:17.we would want to keep the majority, including those with a confirmed job

:45:18. > :45:22.offer and students. This leaves around 80,000 who come looking for

:45:23. > :45:29.work but without a job. Of these 80,000, a third come to London,

:45:30. > :45:34.mostly ended up working in the food processing and hospitality sectors.

:45:35. > :45:37.It is highly unlikely, frankly, that they are taking the job is

:45:38. > :45:43.British-born people in other parts of the country.

:45:44. > :45:49.So the practical impact of Brexit on immigration is less than 12% of the

:45:50. > :45:53.immigration total. And for many people, the core immigration

:45:54. > :45:58.question, and one which I fully accept is a substantial issue, is

:45:59. > :46:03.immigration from non-European countries, especially when from

:46:04. > :46:09.different cultures in which a simulation and even potential

:46:10. > :46:13.security threats could be an issue. Yet this immigration impact of the

:46:14. > :46:17.Brexit decision. It was Donald Trump, no less, who said that

:46:18. > :46:24.without the refugees from Syria might "You probably wouldn't have a

:46:25. > :46:27.Brexit". It is no coincidence that the immigration poster of Leave was

:46:28. > :46:35.Mr Farage in front of a line of Syrian refugees. Thus we have moved

:46:36. > :46:40.in a few months from a debate about what sort of Brexit, involving a

:46:41. > :46:44.balanced consideration of all the different possibilities, to the

:46:45. > :46:49.primacy of one consideration, namely controlling immigration, without any

:46:50. > :46:55.real discussion as to why. And when Brexit doesn't affect the

:46:56. > :47:02.immigration people most care about. However, we are told we just have to

:47:03. > :47:05.stop debating Brexit and just do it. I would question whether the

:47:06. > :47:12.referendum really provides a mandate for Brexit at any cost. But suppose

:47:13. > :47:16.it does. The argument is then that the British people have spoken, we

:47:17. > :47:21.must deliver there will, and we should just get on with it. And I

:47:22. > :47:28.agree that getting on with it is a powerful sentiment and at present,

:47:29. > :47:32.the predominant sentiment. But were we to be true to the concept of

:47:33. > :47:36.government through British parliamentary democracy rather than

:47:37. > :47:44.government by one-off plebiscite, we would also feel obliged to point out

:47:45. > :47:51.that it isn't a question of just getting on with it. This is not a

:47:52. > :47:55.decision that once made, is a mere matter of mechanics to implement. It

:47:56. > :48:04.is a decision which begets other decisions. Every part of this

:48:05. > :48:06.negotiation, from money to access to post-Brexit arrangements, is itself

:48:07. > :48:14.an immense decision with consequence. If we were in a

:48:15. > :48:18.rational world, we would all the time, as we approach the decisions,

:48:19. > :48:25.be asking, why are we doing this? And as we know more of the costs, is

:48:26. > :48:33.the pain worth the gain? So let's examine the pain. We will withdraw

:48:34. > :48:38.from the single market, which is around half of our trade in goods

:48:39. > :48:47.and services. We will also now leave the customs union, for trade with

:48:48. > :48:51.countries like Turkey. Then we need to replace over 50 preferential

:48:52. > :48:57.trade agreements we have via our membership of the European Union,

:48:58. > :49:03.for instance with Switzerland. So EU related trade is actually two thirds

:49:04. > :49:07.of the total. This impact everything from airline travel to financial

:49:08. > :49:13.services to manufacturing industry, sector by sector. Then we will pay

:49:14. > :49:17.for previous EU obligations, but not benefit from future opportunities.

:49:18. > :49:23.With figures as high as ?60 billion as the cost. We will lose influence

:49:24. > :49:27.in the world's most significant political union and have to

:49:28. > :49:29.negotiate on issues like the environment, where we presently

:49:30. > :49:36.benefit from Europe's collective strength on our own. There is alarm

:49:37. > :49:42.across sectors as diverse as scientific research and culture as

:49:43. > :49:47.European funding is withdrawn. And all this then to do an intricate

:49:48. > :49:55.renegotiation of the trading arrangements we have just abandon.

:49:56. > :50:01.That negotiation is without precedent in complexity. It is even

:50:02. > :50:08.possible that it fails, and that we end up trading on WTO rules. This is

:50:09. > :50:14.in itself another minefield. We would need to renegotiate the

:50:15. > :50:18.removal not just of tariff barriers, but the prevention of nontariff

:50:19. > :50:25.barriers which today are often the biggest impediment to trade and pile

:50:26. > :50:29.costs on businesses. This could take years. Our currency is down around

:50:30. > :50:35.12% against the euro, 20% against the dollar, which is the

:50:36. > :50:39.international financial market's assessment of our future prosperity,

:50:40. > :50:42.ie we are going to be poorer. The price of imported goods in the

:50:43. > :50:50.supermarkets is up, and thus the cost of living. Now, of course

:50:51. > :50:56.Britain can and would survive out of the European Union. This is a great

:50:57. > :51:01.country, with resilient and creative people. And yes, no one is going to

:51:02. > :51:07.write us off, nor should they. But making the best of a bad job doesn't

:51:08. > :51:11.alter the fact that it isn't smart to put yourself in that position

:51:12. > :51:18.unless you have to. Most extraordinary of all, the two great

:51:19. > :51:23.achievements of British diplomacy of the last decades in Europe,

:51:24. > :51:29.supported by governments both Labour and Conservative, namely the single

:51:30. > :51:32.market and European enlargement, are now apparently the two things we

:51:33. > :51:38.must regret and want to rid ourselves of. The single market, so

:51:39. > :51:42.we are clear, has been an enormous benefit to the UK, bringing aliens

:51:43. > :51:48.of pounds of wealth, hundreds of thousands of jobs and major

:51:49. > :51:55.investment opportunities. Our trade with an enlarged European Union has

:51:56. > :52:00.meant, for example, that trade with Poland has gone from ?3 billion in

:52:01. > :52:05.2004 to ?13.5 billion in 2016. Nations that came out of the Soviet

:52:06. > :52:13.bloc have seen themselves safely within the EU and Nato, so enhancing

:52:14. > :52:22.our own security. In addition to all of this, there was the possibility

:52:23. > :52:25.of the break-up of the UK, narrowly avoided by the result of the

:52:26. > :52:31.Scottish referendum, but now back on the table, but this time with a

:52:32. > :52:35.context much more credible for the independence case. We are already

:52:36. > :52:39.seeing the destabilising impact of negotiation over border arrangements

:52:40. > :52:51.on the Northern Ireland peace process. None of this ignores the

:52:52. > :53:00.challenge is the country faces which stoked the anger fuelling Brexit.

:53:01. > :53:04.Those left behind by globalisation. The aftermath of the financial

:53:05. > :53:11.crisis, stagnant incomes for some families and for sure, the pressures

:53:12. > :53:15.posed by big increases in migration which make perfectly reasonable

:53:16. > :53:22.people anxious and feeling their anxiety unheard. I always believe

:53:23. > :53:30.that if the centre ground does not deal with problems, the extremes can

:53:31. > :53:35.exploit them. But our duty surely is to give answers, not ride the anger.

:53:36. > :53:38.And here is the paradox. As we go through this unique experiment in

:53:39. > :53:50.diplomatic and economic complexity, the entire focus of the Government

:53:51. > :53:55.is on one issue - Brexit. This is a Government for Brexit, of Brexit and

:53:56. > :54:00.dominated by Brexit. It is a mono purpose political entity. And

:54:01. > :54:06.nothing else therefore truly matters. Not the NHS, now in its

:54:07. > :54:12.most severe crisis since its creation. Not the real challenge of

:54:13. > :54:15.the modern economy which is the new technological revolutions of

:54:16. > :54:18.artificial intelligence and big data. Not the upgrade of our

:54:19. > :54:23.education system to prepare people for this new world. Not investment

:54:24. > :54:27.in community is left behind by globalisation. Not the rising burden

:54:28. > :54:35.of serious crime or bulging prison populations or social care. Not

:54:36. > :54:43.even, irony of ironies, a genuine policy to control immigration. You

:54:44. > :54:50.see, government priorities are not really defined by white papers or

:54:51. > :55:00.words. But by the intensity of focus. This Government has bandwidth

:55:01. > :55:03.only for one thing, Brexit. It is the waking thought, the daily grind,

:55:04. > :55:10.of the meditation before sleep and the stuff of extremes or nightmares.

:55:11. > :55:19.-- the stuff of its dreams or nightmares. It is obsessed with

:55:20. > :55:21.Brexit because it has to be. Future historians will be scurrying to

:55:22. > :55:27.investigate the antecedents of these migrants from Europe, for whose

:55:28. > :55:32.restraint we were willing to sacrifice so much. And what will

:55:33. > :55:35.they find, that they were a terrible group of people who threatened our

:55:36. > :55:39.country's stability? They will find that on the whole, they were

:55:40. > :55:46.well-behaved, work hard, pay their taxes and were a net economic

:55:47. > :55:55.benefit. So this is the surreal situation. The question is, what do

:55:56. > :55:58.we do? The Leave campaign was a coalition, some against Europe for

:55:59. > :56:05.economic reasons, some for cultural reasons. Some were ideological in

:56:06. > :56:11.their opposition. Some had done a cost benefit analysis and concluded

:56:12. > :56:14.better out than in. We must expose the agenda of the ideologues and

:56:15. > :56:21.persuade those interested in the cost benefit ratio. For the latter,

:56:22. > :56:28.we must be in day out articulate the reality. The pain is large and the

:56:29. > :56:34.game illusory. But the ideologues are the ones driving this bus. The

:56:35. > :56:44.economic future which could work outside of Europe is exactly the low

:56:45. > :56:47.tax, light regulation, offshore free-market hub with which Mrs May

:56:48. > :56:50.threatens our European neighbours, but which to the Brexit ideologues

:56:51. > :56:59.is actually a promise of things to come. Indeed, this is what many in

:57:00. > :57:06.business say they are being told by Government ministers but is the

:57:07. > :57:08.opposite of what voters are being told when promised a fairer

:57:09. > :57:17.capitalism with a fairer deal for workers. This free-market vision

:57:18. > :57:23.would require major restructuring of the British economy and its tax and

:57:24. > :57:28.welfare system. It will not mean more money for the NHS, but less.

:57:29. > :57:32.Actually, it probably means a wholesale rebalancing of our health

:57:33. > :57:36.care towards one based on private as much as public provision. It will

:57:37. > :57:42.not mean more protection for workers, but less. And if that were

:57:43. > :57:49.what we wanted to do as a country, we could do it now. Europe wouldn't

:57:50. > :57:54.stop us. But as of now, the British people would, because they wouldn't

:57:55. > :57:59.vote for it. So the ideologues know that they have to get Brexit first,

:58:00. > :58:04.then tell us that this is the only future which works. And by that

:58:05. > :58:14.time, they will be right. In defeating them, we have two major

:58:15. > :58:19.challenges. There is an effective cartel of media on the right which

:58:20. > :58:23.built the ramp for pro-Brexit propaganda during the campaign, is

:58:24. > :58:27.now equally savage in its efforts to say that it's all going to be great,

:58:28. > :58:36.and anyone who says otherwise is a traitor or a moaner, and to make it

:58:37. > :58:42.clear to the Prime Minister that she has their adulation for exactly as

:58:43. > :58:46.long as she delivers Brexit. It hugely skews the broadcast coverage,

:58:47. > :58:52.I'm afraid. For example, a week ago, there was the annual survey of top

:58:53. > :58:59.British business, the leading UK companies. Over half said Brexit was

:59:00. > :59:03.already having an adverse effect on their business, and half did not

:59:04. > :59:11.have confidence in the Government negotiating a good deal. Idlib the

:59:12. > :59:17.Financial Times. -- it led the Financial Times. It was barely

:59:18. > :59:23.covered as well. The BBC has -- had it as an item in the business news.

:59:24. > :59:27.Had it been the other way round, it would have featured prominently in

:59:28. > :59:36.the broadcasts. That is one challenge. The second challenge is

:59:37. > :59:40.the absence of an opposition which looks on the polling capable of

:59:41. > :59:45.beating the government. The debilitation of the Labour Party is

:59:46. > :59:50.the facilitator of Brexit. I hate to say that, but it's true. So what

:59:51. > :00:01.this means is that we have to build a movement which stretches across

:00:02. > :00:04.party lines and devise new means of communication. There are lots of

:00:05. > :00:09.different groups doing great work. "Is one. These groups have got to

:00:10. > :00:16.find ways of converting strategy and tactics effectively. We should begin

:00:17. > :00:22.to create informal links immediately and then build them into a movement

:00:23. > :00:26.with weight and reach. We need to strengthen the hands of the MPs who

:00:27. > :00:29.are with us, and let those against know that they have serious

:00:30. > :00:39.opposition to Brexit at any cost. The Institute I am setting up will

:00:40. > :00:43.play our part, we are creaking a policy platform wider than the

:00:44. > :00:48.Europe question. There is an urgent need to reposition the whole debate

:00:49. > :00:53.around globalisation and how we make it work for people. -- we are

:00:54. > :00:58.creating. In this sense, the Brexit debate is something which is part of

:00:59. > :01:02.a much bigger debate. But developing the argument around Brexit will be

:01:03. > :01:06.an important element of the Institute's work. Then, together we

:01:07. > :01:13.need strong links with the rest of Europe. If our government were

:01:14. > :01:19.conducting a negotiation which genuinely sought to advance our

:01:20. > :01:23.country's interests, that negotiation would include the

:01:24. > :01:29.possibility of Britain staying in a reformed Europe. It is clear the

:01:30. > :01:34.sentiment which led to Brexit is not confined to the UK. There is a

:01:35. > :01:39.widespread yearning for reform across Europe. Part of our work,

:01:40. > :01:44.therefore, should be to help build a European wide alliances to give

:01:45. > :01:51.voice and effect to such an impulse. So this movement must have many

:01:52. > :02:00.dimensions to it. It requires arguments of detail and arguments of

:02:01. > :02:08.grandeur. The case for Europe remains rooted not in understanding

:02:09. > :02:12.the past but the future. All over the globe, countries are coming

:02:13. > :02:19.together in regional alliances for a very simple reason. As China rises,

:02:20. > :02:25.as India and other large population countries follow, and with the USA

:02:26. > :02:30.already so powerful, so to maintain strength and influence to defend our

:02:31. > :02:37.interests adequately, nations of our size will cooperate based on

:02:38. > :02:45.proximity. This is true of the nations of Europe. But for Europe,

:02:46. > :02:52.there is a more profound reason. The transatlantic alliance is needed

:02:53. > :02:56.more than ever but how much stronger it is with Britain in Europe and

:02:57. > :03:01.Europe an equal partner with America. Forget the short-term

:03:02. > :03:10.electoral politics, there or here. In the long term, this is

:03:11. > :03:17.essentially an alliance of values, liberty, democracy, the rule of law.

:03:18. > :03:21.As the world changes and opens up across boundaries of nation and

:03:22. > :03:29.culture, which values will govern the 21st-century? Today, for the

:03:30. > :03:32.first time in my adult life, it is not clear that the resolution of

:03:33. > :03:38.this question will be benign. Britain, because of its history,

:03:39. > :03:47.alliances and character, has a unique role to play in ensuring it

:03:48. > :03:54.is. How, therefore, can it be wise for us during this epic period of

:03:55. > :03:57.global evolution to be focused not on how we build partnerships but on

:03:58. > :04:02.how we dissolve the one to which we are bound by ties of geography,

:04:03. > :04:13.trade, shared values and common interests? The one incontrovertible

:04:14. > :04:18.characteristic of politics today is its propensity for revolt. The

:04:19. > :04:26.Brexiteers were the beneficiaries of this wave but now they want to

:04:27. > :04:34.freeze it to a day in June 2016. They will say the will of the people

:04:35. > :04:40.cannot alter. It can. They will say leaving is inevitable. It isn't.

:04:41. > :04:47.They will say we don't represent the people. We do. Many millions of

:04:48. > :04:52.them, and with determination, many millions more. They will claim we

:04:53. > :05:02.are dividing the country by making the claim and the case. It is they

:05:03. > :05:07.who divide our country. Generation from generation, north from South,

:05:08. > :05:11.Scotland from England. Those born here from those who came to our

:05:12. > :05:18.country precisely because of what they thought it stood for and what

:05:19. > :05:25.they admired. So this is not the time for retreat, indifference or

:05:26. > :05:30.despair. But the time to write up in defence of what we believe. Calmly,

:05:31. > :05:39.patiently winning the argument by the of argument but without fear and

:05:40. > :05:41.with the conviction that we act in the true interests of Britain -- at

:05:42. > :06:01.the time to rise up. Thank you. Tony Blair with his speech saying it

:06:02. > :06:07.is time to rise up in defence of what we believe. It is Brexit at any

:06:08. > :06:11.cost, we need to know what the cost is he said. He will now answer some

:06:12. > :06:16.questions so we will stay with this. I am Pat McFadden, the MP for

:06:17. > :06:23.Wolverhampton South East and abounding supporter of Open Britain

:06:24. > :06:26.-- founding supporter. We will have some questions from the audience in

:06:27. > :06:30.a moment but I would like to begin by asking you about a couple of

:06:31. > :06:37.things you talked about. The first is, in a constituency like mine in

:06:38. > :06:42.Wolverhampton, a big part of the impetus to vote Leave is what has

:06:43. > :06:48.been termed as the discontent over globalisation, people feeling left

:06:49. > :06:58.out of economic change, disaffected by politics, and feeling that often

:06:59. > :07:01.the past seemed to offer a better economy, seemed to be a better

:07:02. > :07:07.economy, than the present they are living in. Around the world, the

:07:08. > :07:14.Right has offered answers to these discontents through nationalism,

:07:15. > :07:17.through anti-globalisation politics and, in some cases, anti-immigrant

:07:18. > :07:21.politics. So the first thing I would like to ask you about is, if the

:07:22. > :07:26.answer from the right is wrong, what is the better answer from the

:07:27. > :07:33.centre-left? And secondly, on Scotland, you talked about how the

:07:34. > :07:37.Brexit vote has put the issue of the unity of the UK back on the agenda

:07:38. > :07:41.but you went further, saying that in some ways that case may be more

:07:42. > :07:46.credible. Could you say a bit more about that as well? Sure. The first

:07:47. > :07:50.question is at the heart of Western politics today but the answers of

:07:51. > :07:57.the right or the far right are not really answers. When they say that

:07:58. > :08:05.rejectionism is better than free trade, this is not going to protect

:08:06. > :08:10.people's jobs -- protectionism. The changes that are happening in the

:08:11. > :08:15.jobs market changes more driven by technology than by trade and the

:08:16. > :08:21.next generation of technology is going to change things to an even

:08:22. > :08:24.greater extent. We have got to provide the genuine answers rather

:08:25. > :08:29.than riding the anger and this is the reason I'm establishing this

:08:30. > :08:34.institute which will go broader than Europe but of course the Europe

:08:35. > :08:37.debate is part of it. The truth is, the answer to communities left

:08:38. > :08:43.behind by globalisation is not for Britain to get out of Europe than it

:08:44. > :08:48.is for Britain to stay in Europe and argue for policies from Europe which

:08:49. > :08:50.allow Europe to make the best bit opportunities, and within Britain,

:08:51. > :08:58.to say that if there are communities left behind, let's go help them. It

:08:59. > :09:02.is not this idea that industrial change is happening. I remember in

:09:03. > :09:05.the 60s, the whole reason there were new towns created all over the UK

:09:06. > :09:11.was because there was a huge displacement of people so let's go

:09:12. > :09:15.to those communities and help them. Someone, a working-class person in

:09:16. > :09:19.northern England unable to get a job, is not going to be helped by

:09:20. > :09:24.stopping a Polish guy working as a waiter in London. It is this false

:09:25. > :09:29.perspective we have to expose to people. At the same time as dealing

:09:30. > :09:33.with a genuine concerns around immigration. You cannot ignore those

:09:34. > :09:37.issues, you have got to deal with them but provide the answers and not

:09:38. > :09:45.the anger. And remember, because this is crucial, that globalisation

:09:46. > :09:52.can be, to some degree, somewhat slowed down by government, it can be

:09:53. > :09:57.in some degree somewhat facilitated by government. But globalisation as

:09:58. > :10:01.a force is not a policy of government. It is driven by

:10:02. > :10:03.technology and travel and it is going to carry on, the world will

:10:04. > :10:10.move closer together, this is what will happen. We need to make sense

:10:11. > :10:13.of that rather than seeking for someone to blame, whether it is the

:10:14. > :10:21.left wanting to blame business or the right wanting to blame migrants.

:10:22. > :10:25.On Scotland, let me be very clear. I want Scotland to remain in the UK

:10:26. > :10:29.even if Brexit goes ahead, I'm still in favour of Scotland remain in the

:10:30. > :10:34.UK and let's be clear, Scotland's single market with England is of far

:10:35. > :10:42.greater importance to it economically than Scotland's

:10:43. > :10:46.interaction with the rest of Europe. However, I'm afraid, as we said in

:10:47. > :10:53.the referendum campaign, unlike the other side, we don't want to say the

:10:54. > :10:56.things we said in that campaign. When myself and John Major warned

:10:57. > :11:01.this would be a threat to the UK, we meant it, and it's true, and you can

:11:02. > :11:05.see that by the referendum coming back on the agenda. Thank you. I

:11:06. > :11:13.will turn to the audience now and we will take a few questions. I will

:11:14. > :11:21.take three now, starting with the gentleman in the middle and there is

:11:22. > :11:39.a lady over their and then the gentleman in the middle. Thank you

:11:40. > :11:43.for the speech... STUDIO: We are going to leave that for now but we

:11:44. > :11:50.will go back if there are any more questions that we could go back for,

:11:51. > :11:55.but a lot of you are getting in touch with your thoughts on Tony

:11:56. > :11:58.Blair's speech. Want to read, Blair had his day and people will not

:11:59. > :12:01.trust a word he says. Marina says, he is trying to undermine the

:12:02. > :12:05.current government which is carrying out the people's wishes. We're not

:12:06. > :12:10.stupid, we know what we voted for. Frank says, Tony Blair, you are

:12:11. > :12:14.right, people have not felt the pain yet to come or the damage they have

:12:15. > :12:17.caused the country. MJ said it is a bullied reflection of how we got

:12:18. > :12:21.into this, the benefit of EU membership and a need for a sober

:12:22. > :12:26.pause and rethink. Kevin says his impact on Out but is it likely to be

:12:27. > :12:29.limited as you seem to be a leading player in some of the problem is

:12:30. > :12:33.that led to the economic meltdown that led to the surge in anti-EU

:12:34. > :12:38.sentiment. Thank you for your comments and keep them coming in.

:12:39. > :12:41.Alcohol abuse and psychological problems are not uncommon amongst

:12:42. > :12:45.In the most serious cases, personnel can return from warzones

:12:46. > :12:47.with post-traumatic stress syndrome - something we've talked about

:12:48. > :12:50.Now there's growing evidence that the true scale of the problem

:12:51. > :12:53.may be worse that feared, because people are reluctant

:12:54. > :12:55.to seek help, or don't return to their doctors

:12:56. > :12:59.The study - published in the medical journal The Lancet -

:13:00. > :13:05.is calling for new ways of helping people get the treatment they need.

:13:06. > :13:07.Let's speak now to Professor Sir Simon Wessely from

:13:08. > :13:08.King's College London, he's the President of

:13:09. > :13:14.Grant Evatt, who is in Plymouth, and a solicitor representing

:13:15. > :13:23.Daniel Malcangi, in Salford, who served in the army from 2001

:13:24. > :13:29.to 2011 and fought in war zones three times in Iraq.

:13:30. > :13:32.Saw things that later gave him post traumatic stress disorder which has

:13:33. > :13:46.On bad days he says he almost finds it difficult to leave the house.

:13:47. > :13:51.Daniel, clearly you have been hit very hard. When you first realised

:13:52. > :13:59.you were struggling, did you speak up? No. Looking back, when I first

:14:00. > :14:06.realised I had the problems was when I was still serving within the

:14:07. > :14:12.battalion. And I didn't come forward and face the problem, I buried it

:14:13. > :14:16.deep inside and try to forget about it and that is where the problems

:14:17. > :14:24.manifested themselves. Why did you do that? At the time you are kind of

:14:25. > :14:29.surrounded by the people who you went to the war zones with and did

:14:30. > :14:32.the jobs you did with. You don't find it creeping to the surface, it

:14:33. > :14:36.is not until you leave the forces and you are not around your peers

:14:37. > :14:43.who you went through the rough times with that it starts to creep out.

:14:44. > :14:49.The statistics show that a lot of people in the Armed Forces will

:14:50. > :14:54.struggle with issues like post for Mitic stress disorder, anxiety,

:14:55. > :15:02.depression and alcohol abuse. 20% developed psychological illness --

:15:03. > :15:09.post-traumatic stress disorder. 16% developed alcohol misuse. There are

:15:10. > :15:14.not that you going through this but you are saying a lot of people are

:15:15. > :15:20.suffering privately. Why do you think people don't reach out to each

:15:21. > :15:24.other? To be fair, within the service, while you are still serving

:15:25. > :15:29.and you are a soldier under contract to the British Army, it is kind of

:15:30. > :15:33.put to bed, a bit of a taboo subject and nobody really wants to come out

:15:34. > :15:39.and say, I'm struggling and having nightmares, problems. I think a lot

:15:40. > :15:45.of it, while you are serving, is covered up with drink. But you are

:15:46. > :15:48.still in that aggressive environment where you are in that every day so

:15:49. > :15:52.it is not spoken about. And Eileen Womersley, in Lincoln,

:15:53. > :16:03.whose partner is a veteran and has Eileen, your partner was medically

:16:04. > :16:13.discharged after serving from 2002 to 2015. What happened with her? She

:16:14. > :16:17.was in Afghan and -- Afghanistan and Iraq and after numerous tours, she

:16:18. > :16:20.couldn't cope any more. She had a complete mental breakdown and was

:16:21. > :16:27.diagnosed with PTSD and then medically discharged. Did she speak

:16:28. > :16:35.up from the beginning? She did when she came home from Iraq, the last

:16:36. > :16:38.tour she did. And she was almost pushed away. She was given sleeping

:16:39. > :16:46.tablets and pretty much told to man up and move on. And then she just

:16:47. > :16:52.hit it. She was drinking heavily and was quite violent, and then just

:16:53. > :16:56.pretended that everything was OK. And what support has she had now

:16:57. > :17:03.that she has been having these issues? When she was going through

:17:04. > :17:10.the medical discharge procedure, not a great deal, really. The MoD seemed

:17:11. > :17:18.ill-equipped to deal with the amount of people with complex PTSD. And

:17:19. > :17:22.once they medically discharged her, they left her to the NHS, who again

:17:23. > :17:29.are ill-equipped to deal with people with such severe cases of PTSD. Let

:17:30. > :17:32.me bring in Professor Wessely, president of the royal College of

:17:33. > :17:38.psychiatrists. How do you respond to what you are hearing about the way

:17:39. > :17:42.people sometimes handle it? It is certainly true that the majority of

:17:43. > :17:45.people who suffer mental health problems in the Armed Forces, whilst

:17:46. > :17:48.they are in service will not come forward with that. But the same

:17:49. > :17:52.would be true in this building. If we did the same study we have

:17:53. > :17:56.published here, I would be surprised if we did not get similar results.

:17:57. > :17:59.This is not unique to the Armed Forces, although particular aspects

:18:00. > :18:04.of their culture add to it. It is a difficult thing to talk about.

:18:05. > :18:07.People are reluctant to come forward. They worry that they will

:18:08. > :18:10.be stigmatised and it will have an effect on their career. They worry

:18:11. > :18:14.what people will think they are not convinced that the mental health

:18:15. > :18:19.services will help them. Alternatively, they think they can

:18:20. > :18:23.do it for themselves. They are proud people. So there needs to be

:18:24. > :18:27.encouragement to speak up. Certainly. What we showed this

:18:28. > :18:31.morning was screaming looking at everybody who came back from

:18:32. > :18:34.Afghanistan, which was 10,000 soldiers in a randomised controlled

:18:35. > :18:41.trial, which is what other countries do. Unfortunately, it did not have

:18:42. > :18:48.any effect. Why was that? Were the wrong questions being asked? It was

:18:49. > :18:53.for the reasons I have just said. While people really didn't want to

:18:54. > :18:57.go and see doctors, they didn't necessarily trustee services. A lot

:18:58. > :19:00.of people felt they could do it on the run. These things meant that

:19:01. > :19:05.during a screening programme wasn't effective. We have been saying that

:19:06. > :19:08.therefore, the money that would have gone into an ineffective programme

:19:09. > :19:12.should be spent on increasing support, which of course happens,

:19:13. > :19:18.but it can be improved, and on improving access to treatments.

:19:19. > :19:21.Daniel, can you think of what might have been done that might have

:19:22. > :19:30.encouraged you to speak out as soon as you knew you were having trouble?

:19:31. > :19:33.It needs to be in the domain more, especially when you get out of the

:19:34. > :19:41.battalion and you are on Civvy Street. As you have heard, the NHS

:19:42. > :19:45.are not equipped and don't have the resources to deal with military

:19:46. > :19:52.personnel coming back from Iraq and particularly Afghanistan, where the

:19:53. > :19:56.fighting was Morpheus. -- it was more fierce. People do not want to

:19:57. > :20:01.acknowledge what you have done and what you have seen. In the NHS,

:20:02. > :20:07.you're just treated like another person would be. Not to say that

:20:08. > :20:13.people are not going through a bad time, but I definitely think a

:20:14. > :20:18.veteran coming back from serving against enemy troops in Afghanistan

:20:19. > :20:21.and fighting the enemy on a daily basis needs to be treated

:20:22. > :20:28.differently to someone who has had a car crash. In my opinion, they need

:20:29. > :20:34.military representation in these hospitals within the NHS so that the

:20:35. > :20:37.psychiatrists can liaise with them to get something put in place. At

:20:38. > :20:45.the minute, there is nothing out there. Grant Evatt, you are a

:20:46. > :20:49.solicitor by presenting bedrooms with mental health problems. What

:20:50. > :20:54.cases do you come across? Cases like Daniel. We see some shocking things

:20:55. > :21:01.in the line of work that we do. Daniel talked about transition from

:21:02. > :21:05.being in the military. We train our men and women to fight, to carry on

:21:06. > :21:14.even when under effective enemy fire. And the transition from that

:21:15. > :21:18.institutionalised service environment into Civvy Street is

:21:19. > :21:27.very tough. Men and women bottle things up. Our troops avoid not just

:21:28. > :21:31.talking about it, but even thinking about it. They become isolated from

:21:32. > :21:37.their friends and families. Then you have this spiral of alcohol, drugs,

:21:38. > :21:44.violence. They don't eat properly. Their sleep is affected. They don't

:21:45. > :21:53.exercise. You then have poverty, crime, homelessness. We need to do

:21:54. > :21:59.more as a society. This is a problem not just for our service community,

:22:00. > :22:06.this is a problem for all of our veterans and entire society. Simon,

:22:07. > :22:13.we are talking about what happens once somebody is struggling. What is

:22:14. > :22:18.done in the military in terms of building up mental resilience? The

:22:19. > :22:24.focus is obviously on physical resilience. What about tackling the

:22:25. > :22:28.problem from the other rent? Firstly, we need to remember that

:22:29. > :22:35.most people who have served to go on to lead successful lives. The people

:22:36. > :22:42.affected are a minority. And it is not just the NHS. There is a whole

:22:43. > :22:46.range of charities out there, over 2000 military charities. There are

:22:47. > :22:49.perhaps too many avenues, a bewildering mixture for many

:22:50. > :22:53.veterans. In terms of preparation, the military are pretty good at

:22:54. > :22:57.that. They are not the same as me and you. They are well trained. They

:22:58. > :23:02.are physically very healthy, and part of their whole structure is to

:23:03. > :23:05.develop both the mental and physical resilience. Most people would

:23:06. > :23:14.acknowledge that they do a good job on that. It is when that isn't

:23:15. > :23:16.sufficient that the whole thing that makes people proud and independent

:23:17. > :23:19.also unfortunately makes it difficult for them to admit to what

:23:20. > :23:27.they sometimes erroneously seen as weakness. Having done this effort of

:23:28. > :23:31.screening to identify people and it not having had the success you would

:23:32. > :23:38.have hoped for, what lessons have you learned? Well, some things have

:23:39. > :23:45.already been done. None of these are just one thing. We have had a lot of

:23:46. > :23:48.investment in peer support, which is reasonably successful. They do

:23:49. > :23:53.things like decompression and briefings, which have a minor

:23:54. > :23:59.impact. But the biggest thing is to make sure they have access to decent

:24:00. > :24:04.services that they trust and I believe that they can help them both

:24:05. > :24:12.in service and outside the service. There are services for people like

:24:13. > :24:16.Daniel. But you are saying there are lots of options. If anything, there

:24:17. > :24:19.is too much. We need to make it easier for Daniel to pick the

:24:20. > :24:25.service that will help him. There are over 2000. The second thing we

:24:26. > :24:31.need to do is have more NHS services that are veteran focused. Daniel

:24:32. > :24:35.made that point clearly. There is a feeling now that many people working

:24:36. > :24:39.in the NHS, 30 years ago, everyone who taught me said they had been on

:24:40. > :24:44.D-Day. But that generation has gone and now most people who work in the

:24:45. > :24:48.NHS don't have much knowledge of the peculiarities and complexities of

:24:49. > :24:55.military life. And particularly at the start of treatment, it is

:24:56. > :24:59.important that you have not just the sympathy, because people in the NHS

:25:00. > :25:03.are sympathetic, but you have more of an actual understanding of what

:25:04. > :25:06.the experiences are Tom the language they use, Daniel may talk in a way

:25:07. > :25:13.that NHS people don't understand with some of the jargon. But

:25:14. > :25:18.building that level of training takes time. It takes time, but there

:25:19. > :25:23.was a developing network of veterinary services across the NHS

:25:24. > :25:28.which is in its early stages, because it is fair to say people

:25:29. > :25:32.have been slow to respond to this problem. In 1945, we had 6 million

:25:33. > :25:37.service personnel coming back, so they had to respond. Now, the

:25:38. > :25:42.numbers are much smaller and less visible. So it has not been as fast

:25:43. > :25:49.as it can. But there is a network developing that is getting good

:25:50. > :25:54.results. Daniel, listening to Simon, does that make sense to you? It

:25:55. > :26:04.doesn't work that way. It is not that simple. You have got military

:26:05. > :26:09.charities out there that have said they are therefore veterans, and I

:26:10. > :26:12.can guarantee you that it is not as simple as picking up the phone to a

:26:13. > :26:19.military charity and getting the help you need. I am not going to sit

:26:20. > :26:24.here and name charities and name call the military charities, but I

:26:25. > :26:29.have been left flat on my face by all the military charities I have

:26:30. > :26:32.been involved with. , the British Legion are the only ones who have

:26:33. > :26:38.reached out to help me with the things I have needed. You get in

:26:39. > :26:42.touch with them and you get told that they will be back in touch, but

:26:43. > :26:45.you never hear anything. And this goes on every day, because I have

:26:46. > :26:54.spoken to friends going through a similar thing and everyone says the

:26:55. > :26:57.same. They are quick to teach you how to put a bayonet into somebody,

:26:58. > :27:04.not so quick to teach you how to speak to people when you leave the

:27:05. > :27:10.army. I joined when I was 16. That is such a young age to learn how to

:27:11. > :27:14.do these things. When I was discharged, I got no resettlement

:27:15. > :27:17.package. I was released and expected to know how to conduct myself in a

:27:18. > :27:24.civilian environment. It is impossible. Thank you all very much.

:27:25. > :27:46.The Ministry of Defence has released the following statement:

:27:47. > :27:51.Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has told the BBC that social media

:27:52. > :27:55.companies are at least partly to blame for fake news. He fears that

:27:56. > :27:57.millions who feel left behind by globalisation are withdrawing from

:27:58. > :28:02.what he calls the connected world. He has written a 5500 word address

:28:03. > :28:08.to Facebook users, published on the site overnight, which he is calling

:28:09. > :28:24.a manifesto. The BBC's economics editor Kamal Ahmed has more.

:28:25. > :28:32.He told me about the polarisation of use, some of it exacerbated by

:28:33. > :28:36.social media, and he calls on people not just to be upset, but to act. He

:28:37. > :28:43.also is publishing a manifesto where he talks about Abraham Lincoln,

:28:44. > :28:47.spirituality and connecting globally. This does not dampen

:28:48. > :28:50.speculation that Mark Zuckerberg might fancy a political career with

:28:51. > :28:55.a very different message from that of President Trump. But for now, he

:28:56. > :28:58.insists he is focused on running one of the biggest, most important

:28:59. > :29:02.companies in the world. Why is he doing this? I think he is laying out

:29:03. > :29:04.a strategy that will guide Facebook, and he is also tackling some of the

:29:05. > :29:42.issues that have dogged the company. We'll have more on Tony Blair's

:29:43. > :29:45.mission to persuade Britons to reject the result

:29:46. > :29:51.of the EU referendum. And I'll talk to the victim

:29:52. > :29:54.of a knife attack - stabbed 12 times for helping a woman

:29:55. > :29:57.being attacked - about his plans to help stop young

:29:58. > :30:01.people carrying blades. Tony Blair has set out what he calls

:30:02. > :30:11.his "mission" to persuade people the former prime minister said

:30:12. > :30:17.that the UK is "rushing over a cliff's edge" and he wants to

:30:18. > :30:19.build support Downing Street says

:30:20. > :30:22.it is "absolutely committed" Mr Blair told members

:30:23. > :30:27.of the pro-European campaign group, Open Britain, he respected

:30:28. > :30:29.the will of the people, but voters had not known

:30:30. > :30:39.the terms of the deal. I accept right now there is no

:30:40. > :30:44.widespread appetite to rethink. But the people voted without

:30:45. > :30:49.knowledge of the terms of Brexit. As these terms become

:30:50. > :30:51.clear, it is their right Our mission is to

:30:52. > :30:59.persuade them to do so. President Trump's choice

:31:00. > :31:01.to replace Mike Flynn as his new National Security Adviser

:31:02. > :31:07.has turned the job down. In a statement, Vice Admiral Robert

:31:08. > :31:09.Harward said he couldn't make the 24 hour a day,

:31:10. > :31:12.seven day a week commitment General Flynn resigned earlier this

:31:13. > :31:15.week over revelations about discussions he'd had

:31:16. > :31:17.with Russia's ambassador Ten British tourists have been

:31:18. > :31:25.injured after a speedboat The holidaymakers and their local

:31:26. > :31:30.guide were thrown into the water when their speedboat hit the base

:31:31. > :31:33.of a water fountain Two people are reported to be

:31:34. > :31:37.seriously hurt but none of the injuries are said

:31:38. > :31:42.to be life-threatening. Retail sales in the UK dropped

:31:43. > :31:46.unexpectedly in January, following on from December's dip.

:31:47. > :32:02.unexpectedly in January, Official figures from the Office

:32:03. > :32:04.for National Statistics show sales dropped by 0.3% compared

:32:05. > :32:06.with the previous month, that's well below the 0.9% rise

:32:07. > :32:09.which had been expected. Analysts say food and fuel prices

:32:10. > :32:11.squeezed consumer spending power A West Yorkshire couple have won

:32:12. > :32:15.damages, after their week-old baby was taken off them by social

:32:16. > :32:18.workers, due to what authorities called the father's "unorthodox

:32:19. > :32:20.views" about formula milk. Kirklees Council has been ordered

:32:21. > :32:23.to pay the family more than ?11,000 for taking the infant after medical

:32:24. > :32:25.staff expressed concern The High Court heard how authorities

:32:26. > :32:29.falsely claimed the parents had The judge ruled there was no doubt

:32:30. > :32:33.in his mind the council had violated That's a summary of the latest news,

:32:34. > :32:44.join me for BBC Newsroom Arsene Wenger says he'll make

:32:45. > :32:55.a decision on his Arsenal future in March or April, but won't be

:32:56. > :32:59.retiring this summer. The Frenchman's been at the club

:33:00. > :33:02.for more than 20 years but his position is under greater

:33:03. > :33:04.scrutiny following that 5-1 defeat at Bayern Munich

:33:05. > :33:06.in the Champions League. Wenger says "I will manage next

:33:07. > :33:09.season, whether it is Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored his first

:33:10. > :33:15.hat-trick for Manchester United in their 3-0 Europa League win over

:33:16. > :33:18.Saint-Etienne at Old Trafford. It gives a great chance of reaching

:33:19. > :33:21.the last 16 as they head Tottenham are 1-0 down in their tie

:33:22. > :33:31.after they lost away to Ghent, a side in mid-table

:33:32. > :33:33.in the Belgian league. Spurs will have the chance to make

:33:34. > :33:37.amends at Wembley next Thursday. And Huddersfield missed

:33:38. > :33:40.the chance to go top of rugby league's Super League -

:33:41. > :33:42.beaten 30-20 by Salford. Gareth O'Brian scored 22 points

:33:43. > :33:44.but it was Josh Jones' try five minutes from time that sealed

:33:45. > :33:52.Salford's first win of the season. I will have more sport on the BBC

:33:53. > :34:01.News channel throughout the day. Well - the main news this

:34:02. > :34:04.morning is that the former Prime Minister Tony Blair has made

:34:05. > :34:06.a speech urging He said people had voted without

:34:07. > :34:10.knowledge of the terms of Brexit, and it was now their right

:34:11. > :34:12.to change their minds He said government policy to deliver

:34:13. > :34:16.Brexit was being driven by ideologues, and future

:34:17. > :34:18.generations would deliver what he called "a rancorous verdict"

:34:19. > :34:27.if no effort was made to change After his speech, he took questions

:34:28. > :34:32.from members of the audience including my colleague, Carole

:34:33. > :34:35.Walker. Carole Walker, BBC. What you say to the charge that you are doing

:34:36. > :34:39.is fundamentally undemocratic, you are trying to overturn a vote of the

:34:40. > :34:43.British people? Isn't the only way you can do that through a second

:34:44. > :34:47.referendum and, if I may, do you really think you are the one with

:34:48. > :34:55.the popular appeal to get a different answer if you did get a

:34:56. > :35:01.second go? First of all, on me you can like the messenger or not, and

:35:02. > :35:05.this is a free country so I've got a right to speak and you've got the

:35:06. > :35:13.freedom to listen, or not. You don't want to listen to me, don't listen

:35:14. > :35:16.to me. APPLAUSE I'm very clear and simple on this, I

:35:17. > :35:20.know there will be a volume of abuse that will come my way for speeding

:35:21. > :35:26.but I'm speaking because I believe in it and I care about the country

:35:27. > :35:30.-- -- for speaking. This thing about it being undemocratic to carry on

:35:31. > :35:35.debating this, the will of the people is not some fixed immutable

:35:36. > :35:41.thing that can never change, irrespective of the fact that are

:35:42. > :35:45.brought to their attention. When the people voted on June 23, I accepted

:35:46. > :35:50.entirely they voted to get of Europe. But they didn't at that

:35:51. > :35:56.point know what the alternative was. They were told, and I have used this

:35:57. > :36:00.analogy before, it is like a house swap, we want to swap our house but

:36:01. > :36:04.we haven't seen the other one will stop one group of people tell them

:36:05. > :36:09.the other house is fantastic and you should move. Another group say no,

:36:10. > :36:12.it's a bad idea, I wouldn't do that. What do they do? They heard two

:36:13. > :36:16.people and decided to go with the person who said it was fantastic.

:36:17. > :36:20.But here's the thing, now they go and see it. They go and visit the

:36:21. > :36:26.neighbourhood. They test the structure. Now they are going to go

:36:27. > :36:31.and see if it is the type of move they really want to make. The idea

:36:32. > :36:35.that, in those circumstances, if they decide, you know what, this is

:36:36. > :36:38.not such a great neighbourhood and we don't like the structure and it

:36:39. > :36:42.hasn't got the right bedrooms for us and the right facilities and it will

:36:43. > :36:47.cost too much to do it up, what, they can't change their mind? No,

:36:48. > :36:53.you've made your decision! Stop debating, don't think about it any

:36:54. > :37:00.more! Who made that rule?! This is ridiculous. That was our political

:37:01. > :37:06.correspondent Carole Walker asking the question of Tony Blair. She

:37:07. > :37:11.joins us now. He talks about rising up, of building a cross-party group

:37:12. > :37:16.against Brexit. How much is he going to put into this mission?

:37:17. > :37:20.Interestingly he said he wasn't actually setting up a new political

:37:21. > :37:23.party but he is setting up an Institute and he said he does want

:37:24. > :37:27.to counter the arguments which he believes at the men are being driven

:37:28. > :37:33.by the ideologues, those who are passionate about the move to leave

:37:34. > :37:36.the European Union. His argument essentially is that when people

:37:37. > :37:40.voted to leave the EU, they didn't realise how bad it was going to be,

:37:41. > :37:45.how severe the damage was going to be to the economy, they didn't

:37:46. > :37:53.realise perhaps that it could herald the break-up of the UK with Scotland

:37:54. > :37:56.now warning of a possible referendum on Scottish independence again. And

:37:57. > :38:01.he talked about the concerned about the effect on the Northern Ireland

:38:02. > :38:05.peace process. As you heard, he was questioned about whether he was the

:38:06. > :38:08.right person to try to lead this argument but I think one of the

:38:09. > :38:13.other interesting point he made was that he feels at the moment that

:38:14. > :38:16.there is no opposition to the move towards Brexit and he clearly

:38:17. > :38:24.includes in that the Labour Party which of course has said it accepts

:38:25. > :38:27.the moves to trigger Article 50 and leave the EU. This was the core of

:38:28. > :38:33.his message God that it was time for the people to try to counter those

:38:34. > :38:38.moves towards Brexit. They will say that reading is inevitable. It

:38:39. > :38:45.isn't. They will say we don't represent the people. We do. Many

:38:46. > :38:48.millions of them, and, with determination, many millions more.

:38:49. > :38:57.They will claim we are dividing the country by making the claim and the

:38:58. > :39:03.case. It is they who divide our country. Generation from generation,

:39:04. > :39:08.north from South, Scotland from England. Those born here from those

:39:09. > :39:15.who came to our country precisely because of what they thought it

:39:16. > :39:22.stood for and what they admired. So this is not the time for retreat.

:39:23. > :39:28.Indifference or despair. But the time to rise up in defence of what

:39:29. > :39:34.we believe. So that was some of Tony Blair's speech earlier here at

:39:35. > :39:37.Bloomberg, the same place incidentally where, four years ago,

:39:38. > :39:42.David Cameron first made that pledge that he would give the British

:39:43. > :39:46.people and EU referendum which of course led us on the path to Brexit.

:39:47. > :39:51.I'm joined by Heidi Alexander, a Labour MP who was there. That call

:39:52. > :39:56.from Tony Blair to rise up against the march to Brexit, is it

:39:57. > :39:59.realistic? I think Tony gave a very powerful, measured speech about how

:40:00. > :40:05.things are likely to play out over the next couple of years. Of course,

:40:06. > :40:09.when people voted nine months ago, Brexit was perhaps a dim and distant

:40:10. > :40:13.prospect but now we find the reality is hurtling towards us at a speed of

:40:14. > :40:18.knots. Whether you love him or loathe him, he is somebody we should

:40:19. > :40:22.listen to, he has huge experience of politics at the top level and I

:40:23. > :40:26.think he is right to have drawn attention to the fact that when

:40:27. > :40:31.people voted last year, the debate that led up to it was not fantastic,

:40:32. > :40:35.perhaps partial information that people had to their fingertips, and

:40:36. > :40:39.we have a situation where the Chancellor a couple of weeks after

:40:40. > :40:43.the referendum said it would be a disaster to come out of the single

:40:44. > :40:47.market, catastrophic was the word. Tony Blair was also very critical of

:40:48. > :40:51.the Labour Party for failing to provide any opposition to the

:40:52. > :40:55.government on the whole drive to Brexit. I think if you listen to

:40:56. > :40:58.some of the debates me and my colleagues made in the House of

:40:59. > :41:02.Commons over the last few weeks, we have been clear this cannot be

:41:03. > :41:07.Brexit at any cost, as Tony Blair has said. Your party is supporting

:41:08. > :41:11.the legislation that is going through to start the negotiations.

:41:12. > :41:16.Personally I voted against triggering Article 50 a few weeks

:41:17. > :41:21.ago because whilst I acknowledge the result of the referendum, what I

:41:22. > :41:26.don't feel that I can do is sign up to Theresa May's version Brexit

:41:27. > :41:30.which is one where she will pull us out of the single market, where she

:41:31. > :41:34.prioritises reducing immigration over the National economic interest

:41:35. > :41:39.and where she threatens the country's closest to us with these

:41:40. > :41:42.low tax, light regulation economy that Tony talked about. What Tony

:41:43. > :41:47.Blair was talking about was not just changing the terms of a future deal,

:41:48. > :41:52.he was talking about trying to overturn the Brexit vote. Is he

:41:53. > :41:56.really to get sufficient of mass movement to overturn that vote of

:41:57. > :41:59.the British people? I think what he was talking about was making sure

:42:00. > :42:04.that we have the best possible relationship with going forward.

:42:05. > :42:11.This is a case of ensuring that our options are open as we move forward,

:42:12. > :42:15.as the economic reality Brexit starts to hit, the implications in

:42:16. > :42:20.terms of jobs, living standards, the price of goods in shops, the falling

:42:21. > :42:25.value of sterling and all the blondes this will cause the economy.

:42:26. > :42:29.The point he is making is that this cannot be Brexit at any cost -- and

:42:30. > :42:35.all the problems this will cause. Begu for joining us. Clearly that

:42:36. > :42:38.intervention by the former Prime Minister is going to spark of a

:42:39. > :42:42.whole new round of argument over Brexit and whether he can actually

:42:43. > :42:44.change the course of events, I think that is probably more doubtful.

:42:45. > :42:51.Thank you. Now, a story of finding love in

:42:52. > :42:54.the most unusual of circumstances - Joan Neininger met Ken Selway

:42:55. > :42:56.as he rifled through a bin outside her bookshop

:42:57. > :42:58.in Gloucester city centre. Now, some three decades later,

:42:59. > :43:01.the couple both in their 80s are finally getting married -

:43:02. > :43:03.on Joan's birthday tomorrow. It didn't have that little red

:43:04. > :43:12.thing going up and down. Back on the street

:43:13. > :43:21.where they first met. And there was a seat

:43:22. > :43:28.for people to sit on. Appropriate that it began

:43:29. > :43:34.here, in a book shop. The shop was full of books,

:43:35. > :43:37.laden with shelves, lots of books. And that was my lounge,

:43:38. > :43:40.and that was my bedroom up there. Joan ran the little shop

:43:41. > :43:44.in the centre of Gloucester with her husband, and one day

:43:45. > :43:47.in 1975 she saw Ken That's were the bin where I used

:43:48. > :44:01.to go and look for food. People would eat them

:44:02. > :44:11.and they would throw the rest away. So Joan gave Ken a cup of tea

:44:12. > :44:20.that day and sketched He was a shy man who'd

:44:21. > :44:23.suffered a head injury He developed schizophrenia

:44:24. > :44:31.and ended up sleeping rough. He always looked as if he didn't

:44:32. > :44:34.belong on the streets. He looked gentlemanly

:44:35. > :44:36.and he spoke very... Gave me the impression that he'd

:44:37. > :44:42.been to a good school, He doesn't look scruffy,

:44:43. > :44:49.he's the groom! He looked a little

:44:50. > :45:01.bit better, actually. Joan invited Ken to move into her

:45:02. > :45:04.family home, and she helped him Over the years he became

:45:05. > :45:09.part of the household, Although Joan's relationship

:45:10. > :45:16.with Ken was purely platonic, her But as the decades passed, the three

:45:17. > :45:23.of them became good friends. Then in 1983, Joan's

:45:24. > :45:28.husband Norman died. Ken and Joan are back to marry, 42

:45:29. > :45:48.years after that first cup of tea. Perry Como sings like him,

:45:49. > :45:53.and he sings like Perry Como. How much of a difference has

:45:54. > :45:57.Joan made to your life? Ken, what is it about Joan that

:45:58. > :46:17.you've fallen in love with? She's given me everything

:46:18. > :46:20.that I wanted. It's a little bit like

:46:21. > :46:23.having a pet, almost. I was on the street,

:46:24. > :46:25.it was terrible. I never dreamed that

:46:26. > :46:37.I was going to marry him. When he's not being grumpy

:46:38. > :46:43.and stinky and horrible. It was Joan who proposed to Ken

:46:44. > :46:52.after visiting him in his care home. I'd come out of the house

:46:53. > :46:55.and I'd cry, because I was And I thought, "Well,

:46:56. > :47:06.I suppose I could." And how excited are you about

:47:07. > :47:16.this wedding and this Because you've never been

:47:17. > :47:27.married before, you see. You've been a happy bachelor

:47:28. > :47:30.all these years and now I've come Joan's children and grandchildren

:47:31. > :47:36.fully support the marriage and will all be at the wedding

:47:37. > :47:38.tomorrow, which is What about the future,

:47:39. > :47:42.what does the future holds Well, there won't be babies and it

:47:43. > :47:53.won't be a white wedding dress! Some of their friends jokingly call

:47:54. > :47:58.them the Lady and the Tramp. Nearly five decades after meeting

:47:59. > :48:01.outside the book shop, If somebody had said

:48:02. > :48:08.to you all those years ago when you first saw one another that

:48:09. > :48:11.in 2017 you'd still be together Our next guest, Will Flint,

:48:12. > :48:30.was standing at a cash machine when he saw a young woman

:48:31. > :48:32.being attacked and But rather than defuse the argument,

:48:33. > :48:36.the attacker standing in front The man swiped at him with the blade

:48:37. > :48:41.and the pair got into a tussle. As Will tried to protect himself,

:48:42. > :48:43.he was stabbed 12 times, leaving him with a perforated

:48:44. > :48:46.stomach, spleen and diaphragm. Miraculously, he survived,

:48:47. > :48:49.and Will says he now wants to use his experiences to fight

:48:50. > :49:05.against knife crime. You stepped in to be a good

:49:06. > :49:09.Samaritan. What happened? In a way, yes. I was out with friends,

:49:10. > :49:12.bringing in the new year. We had watch the fireworks in town and I

:49:13. > :49:16.was on my way back in a taxi. Stopped off to use the cashpoint to

:49:17. > :49:21.get some money out. Whilst I was there, I heard a commotion to my

:49:22. > :49:28.left, turned around and I saw an assault. I saw a man hurling abuse

:49:29. > :49:31.at a woman. He had punched her in the eye and grabbed her by the hair,

:49:32. > :49:38.and she was walking away at this point towards where I was standing.

:49:39. > :49:43.And as she was approaching me, I asked her, was she OK? Do you want

:49:44. > :49:50.some help? At that point, I turned around and saw the man approaching

:49:51. > :49:57.behind. And as I spoke to him, I looked down and he was holding a

:49:58. > :50:04.knife. And at that point, he came at me quickly. Did you think about

:50:05. > :50:09.running? No. It was a frightening situation and I had nowhere to run.

:50:10. > :50:14.I had to wrestle the knife from him. But he managed to stab you 12 times,

:50:15. > :50:21.and you were fighting during that time. Yeah. I mentioned the injuries

:50:22. > :50:27.that you sustained. Tell us what impact it has had on you. Initially,

:50:28. > :50:33.there is a psychological impact. It has been tough. But I am through

:50:34. > :50:39.that now. I have a supportive network around me of friends and

:50:40. > :50:45.family. It is just that realisation of how close I was to dying and how

:50:46. > :50:49.lucky I am. And you want to talk about it because you want to raise

:50:50. > :50:53.awareness of the issues around knife crime and the man to attack you has

:50:54. > :50:58.been jailed for eight years and ten months now. What is the message you

:50:59. > :51:04.want to get across? Quite simply that knives can change lives in an

:51:05. > :51:08.instant. A momentary lapse of judgment can cost is not just the

:51:09. > :51:13.person using the knife, but obviously the victim as well. And

:51:14. > :51:22.they ruins lives quickly. There needs to be more awareness about

:51:23. > :51:26.that. Anyone looking to carry a knife before they leave the house

:51:27. > :51:30.needs to look at stories like mine and see how quickly things can

:51:31. > :51:37.escalate and change their lives. You could have been killed in the

:51:38. > :51:43.attack. What did Doctor say about your chances of survival at the

:51:44. > :51:47.time? I was lucky in the sense that I have a bit of training behind me.

:51:48. > :51:51.Last year, I did some nice self-defence after I saw a

:51:52. > :51:57.high-profile stabbing on the news. So totally by chance, you did that

:51:58. > :52:00.prior to it happening to you? Yeah. I learned simple techniques to turn

:52:01. > :52:05.your body away from the line of fire. So I got hit in the side

:52:06. > :52:09.rather than the front. And also to move in to gain control of his arm.

:52:10. > :52:14.Unfortunately, I had been stabbed in the shoulder and my lung had

:52:15. > :52:20.collapsed, so it was difficult to wrestle him. And he managed to stab

:52:21. > :52:26.me 12 times. But I think without that knowledge, I would probably be

:52:27. > :52:30.dead. Did anybody can to help you? Yeah. After the tussle, I think he

:52:31. > :52:41.cut himself and was pulled back of me. At that point, I dumped in a

:52:42. > :52:44.taxi and went to hospital. We have just seen you doing some

:52:45. > :52:53.self-defence exercises. That is embarrassing! You said it was the

:52:54. > :52:57.fight or flight, and that you don't think about it when something is

:52:58. > :53:01.unfolding and some rationality goes out of the window, but would you

:53:02. > :53:06.step in again? Absolutely. I wouldn't class myself as a hero. I

:53:07. > :53:11.was just a regular guy at the cashpoint. I saw something terrible

:53:12. > :53:14.happening and wanted to help. It didn't cross my mind that he might

:53:15. > :53:19.have had a knife. That is one to take away from my story. There are a

:53:20. > :53:23.lot more knives on the streets than you realise. People now deem it

:53:24. > :53:28.acceptable to carry a. But if you had known he had a knife? I probably

:53:29. > :53:34.would still have done the same thing. Because you were protecting

:53:35. > :53:41.the woman? In a way. He might have turned the knife on her. It's just

:53:42. > :53:46.one of those things. I would like to hope that people can hear my story

:53:47. > :53:54.and use it as a reason not to act in that situation or turn a blind eye,

:53:55. > :53:58.but to take away from this that knives are rife. Would you ever want

:53:59. > :54:05.to talk to him? Have you had any thoughts about him? No. I wouldn't

:54:06. > :54:12.want to talk to him, really. I have had my closure. Justice was served

:54:13. > :54:19.quite quickly. I am ready to move on now. But it has given you a sense of

:54:20. > :54:27.a mission that you want to get the message out there. Yeah. People need

:54:28. > :54:31.to be aware of the risks and implications before they carry a

:54:32. > :54:36.knife. It has pretty dire consequences. The temptation of

:54:37. > :54:42.pulling a knife out when you have got one on you is big. People are

:54:43. > :54:46.empowered by it. And that needs to change. They need to listen to

:54:47. > :54:52.stories like mine and realise what the consequences will be. Will

:54:53. > :54:56.Flint, thank you for coming in. More reaction now to Tony Blair's beach.

:54:57. > :55:00.Dominic Robb, the Tory MP and prominent Brexit supporter has just

:55:01. > :55:04.described Mr Blair's intervention as the height of arrogance, saying he

:55:05. > :55:08.wants to go on putting the same question over and over again until

:55:09. > :55:11.he gets a different answer. The former Work and Pensions Secretary

:55:12. > :55:16.and prominent Leave campaigner Iain Duncan Smith joins us now from his

:55:17. > :55:20.constituency in Chingford. What is your reaction to Tony Blair's

:55:21. > :55:28.comments? Rather similar to Dominic Raab's. I was firstly quite

:55:29. > :55:31.surprised to hear Tony Blair entering the fray. He seems to have

:55:32. > :55:35.been rather busy going out and giving advice to dictators around

:55:36. > :55:40.the world, so maybe his view of democracy has been tainted by that.

:55:41. > :55:43.We had a democratic vote last year. The British people made a decision,

:55:44. > :55:47.and now the job of the Government is to get the best arrangements with

:55:48. > :55:53.the European Union. We are not leaving Europe, and she wants to get

:55:54. > :55:58.good trading arrangements costs to stay friends and cooperate on

:55:59. > :56:01.defence and intelligence, but not be part of the European Union and that

:56:02. > :56:04.will benefit us eventually. I don't think it is for Mr Blair to come

:56:05. > :56:10.back into British politics and lecture the British people and bully

:56:11. > :56:13.and cajole them and tell them that until they make the right decision,

:56:14. > :56:25.they will keep getting asked the same question. Dominic Raab talks

:56:26. > :56:36.about a -- Tony Blair talks about a house swap. You might want to change

:56:37. > :56:42.your mind. We had years of Tony Blair's sound bites. This sounds

:56:43. > :56:46.like a speech made around a couple of sound bites. Sound bites don't

:56:47. > :56:51.matter here. The key thing is that the British people were asked a

:56:52. > :56:54.question. They made a decision and now the government has to sort that

:56:55. > :57:01.out and make sure we have a good relationship with the European

:57:02. > :57:06.Union, but we are leaving. It ill behoves Mr Blatter come back into

:57:07. > :57:09.this and start lecturing everybody about how they didn't know what they

:57:10. > :57:12.were voting on. There is a kind of arrogance to that which suggest the

:57:13. > :57:16.British people were incapable of making a decision. They manage each

:57:17. > :57:19.time to select their governments, don't they? They don't get lectured

:57:20. > :57:25.that this was something they were not capable of doing. I didn't agree

:57:26. > :57:28.when they elected Mr Blair, but we still accepted the decision. We

:57:29. > :57:32.didn't ask to hold the election again because they got it wrong.

:57:33. > :57:38.Democracy is like that. Baby P needs a reminder about that. As I say, --

:57:39. > :57:41.maybe he needs a reminder about that. He has been talking to

:57:42. > :57:48.dictators about their quasi democracies. But what about those

:57:49. > :57:53.who voted to remain? Do they not have the right to have their voices

:57:54. > :57:57.heard? They had their voices heard, that was the point of the

:57:58. > :58:01.referendum. Now what a good government does is take that

:58:02. > :58:05.decision and make it a reasonable result. That is to say that we

:58:06. > :58:10.listen to the people on Remain and Leave, and Theresa May now wants us

:58:11. > :58:14.to leave on good terms with the European Union. It is in their

:58:15. > :58:20.interests, as they run a trade surplus with us. It is in our

:58:21. > :58:25.interests, because we have a good intelligence supply. We are out of

:58:26. > :58:36.time. Thank you for your company today.

:58:37. > :58:39.Are you ready for the next ten years? I'm pregnant.