02/03/2017

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

:00:11. > :00:14.Our top story - The public faces an unacceptable risk as police

:00:15. > :00:16.forces around England and Wales struggle with cutbacks.

:00:17. > :00:19.The warning comes from the Government's police

:00:20. > :00:23.One of the problems is a shortfall of detectives -

:00:24. > :00:37.There just isn't enough hours in a day to do everything. I think

:00:38. > :00:41.officers are carrying 20 or more crimes. Sometimes there was more

:00:42. > :00:45.than one victim in an investigation, and more than one suspect.

:00:46. > :00:50.New figures from housing charity Shelter suggest 8 out of 10 families

:00:51. > :00:53.in England can't afford new homes being built in their area.

:00:54. > :00:56.And two women who were sick more than thirty times

:00:57. > :00:58.a day while pregnant, tell us more why doctors need to

:00:59. > :01:14.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:15. > :01:15.If you're suffering from extreme morning sickness

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:01:26. > :01:33.Did you consider a termination to stop the sickness? One charity has

:01:34. > :01:34.told us that women have aborted their baby because the condition got

:01:35. > :01:36.so bad. Victims are being let down

:01:37. > :01:39.and suspects left untracked by some police forces in England and Wales

:01:40. > :01:42.according to a report Her Majesty's Inspectorate

:01:43. > :01:45.of Constabulary found a third It said a small number were putting

:01:46. > :01:49.the public at unacceptable risk by rationing services

:01:50. > :01:50.as they struggle with cutbacks. Here's our Home Affairs

:01:51. > :01:57.Correspondent, Dominic Casciani. The cornerstone of British policing

:01:58. > :02:00.- the bobby on the beat. But are these vital community posts

:02:01. > :02:02.being eroded as forces That's one of the warnings

:02:03. > :02:07.in a stark report from Her Majesty's After five years of budget cuts,

:02:08. > :02:13.some forces aren't making the right tough calls over how

:02:14. > :02:17.to use their resources. It's raised what it

:02:18. > :02:19.calls a red warning flag Some have been downgrading 999 calls

:02:20. > :02:25.if they're short on officers. That means they don't have

:02:26. > :02:31.to respond as quickly. The HMIC also says domestic violence

:02:32. > :02:34.calls to some forces have been downgraded because of a lack

:02:35. > :02:40.of specialist officers. Other forces have ignored leads

:02:41. > :02:42.on organised crime because it Only Durham is delivering

:02:43. > :02:45.outstanding policing. Neighbourhood policing,

:02:46. > :02:46.that proactive, preventative presence of police officers

:02:47. > :02:48.in communities is eroding even further, so that means they're not

:02:49. > :02:51.stopping crime from happening in the first place and that's

:02:52. > :02:53.what the public want to see. This isn't in all forces -

:02:54. > :02:57.many forces still have a really great service in that area -

:02:58. > :02:59.but some forces are beginning to take officers out

:03:00. > :03:01.of neighbourhood policing to focus on other areas, and we're saying

:03:02. > :03:03.absolutely that erosion of neighbourhood policing can't be

:03:04. > :03:17.allowed to happen. The HMIC says overall most

:03:18. > :03:19.forces are doing well, but a third may be placing

:03:20. > :03:22.the public at unacceptable risk Some chief constables believe

:03:23. > :03:34.the inspectors have got it wrong, but their national council says each

:03:35. > :03:45.force is facing difficult decisions We will have a special report on why

:03:46. > :03:50.London has a shortfall of 700 detectives. Right now, the rest of

:03:51. > :03:59.the news with Rebecca Jones in the newsroom. Nearly two thirds of

:04:00. > :04:03.England's hospitals have been rated as adequate or needing improvement.

:04:04. > :04:06.The report, by the Care Quality Commission, also found that four

:04:07. > :04:08.out of five trusts need to improve patient safety.

:04:09. > :04:10.But more than 90% were judged to be "good" or "outstanding"

:04:11. > :04:19.It's the first wide-ranging snapshot of the state

:04:20. > :04:23.The regulator for the Care Quality Commission spent nearly three years

:04:24. > :04:25.carrying out inspections following the Mid Staffordshire

:04:26. > :04:33.This is the first annual report on all of them.

:04:34. > :04:35.One of the key findings is the wide variation

:04:36. > :04:41.Across the major hospital trusts in England, 68% have been rated

:04:42. > :04:43.as inadequate or requiring improvement.

:04:44. > :04:45.81% of trusts are said to need to improve safety.

:04:46. > :04:48.But 93% were rated as good or outstanding for the caring

:04:49. > :04:55.There is variation between trusts, there's variation within trusts,

:04:56. > :04:57.you can get a very good service within a trust that's struggling

:04:58. > :05:00.or you can get an individual service that's not doing so well

:05:01. > :05:07.Praise is given to some trusts which have made significant

:05:08. > :05:10.improvements, including University Hospitals Bristol.

:05:11. > :05:13.The first to go from requiring improvement direct to outstanding

:05:14. > :05:23.I think the findings of the report are very positive for us.

:05:24. > :05:26.I think in the report it acknowledges a lot of the hard work

:05:27. > :05:29.that this department does and a very positive culture for providing

:05:30. > :05:34.The Department of Health said the comprehensive inspections formed

:05:35. > :05:38.a key part of a plan to make the NHS is the safest and most transparent

:05:39. > :05:48.The government says it will seek to overturn a demand by the House

:05:49. > :05:51.of Lords that EU citizens living in the UK should be allowed to stay

:05:52. > :05:55.Peers defied ministers when they voted by a large margin

:05:56. > :05:57.to guarantee their rights but the prime minister, Theresa May,

:05:58. > :06:00.has said that should be negotiated alongside a deal for British

:06:01. > :06:14.The Bill will return to the Commons later this month.

:06:15. > :06:17.With us now is our Assistant Political Editor Norman Smith.

:06:18. > :06:24.What happens next? All eyes move from here to the House

:06:25. > :06:30.of Commons to see whether MPs have been emboldened by last night's

:06:31. > :06:37.massive defeat where the government lost by many more votes than anybody

:06:38. > :06:40.expected to margin of 102, we saw several former Conservative Cabinet

:06:41. > :06:50.ministers challenging the government. The tone was passionate.

:06:51. > :06:52.Will MPs now feel emboldened to challenge Theresa May and thwart her

:06:53. > :07:01.attempts to overturn last night's defeat. I must say, I think that is

:07:02. > :07:04.unlikely. Talking to some of the potential Tory rebels, they by and

:07:05. > :07:08.large trust Theresa May on this issue. They accept she wants to

:07:09. > :07:13.guarantee the rights of EU nationals. They believe she wants to

:07:14. > :07:17.do this quickly. And they acknowledge there are EU countries

:07:18. > :07:21.that are reluctant to make an agreement on this before the

:07:22. > :07:28.negotiations begin. They are willing to give Theresa May time. We have

:07:29. > :07:32.seen again and again on votes on Brexit in the Commons, the threat on

:07:33. > :07:38.the Tory revolt never materialises in the way some have suggested. I

:07:39. > :07:41.suspect despite last night's defeat it probably will be reversed in the

:07:42. > :07:46.Commons and Theresa May will remain on course to trigger Article 50 by

:07:47. > :07:48.the end of March. Thanks very much.

:07:49. > :07:50.Senior opponents of President Trump are calling for his newly appointed

:07:51. > :07:53.It emerged that Jeff Sessions, had two undisclosed

:07:54. > :07:55.encounters with the Russian ambassador, during the recent

:07:56. > :08:00.Mr Sessions oversees the FBI, which is currently investigating

:08:01. > :08:11.The White House maintains there was no improper contact.

:08:12. > :08:13.Voting is underway in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections -

:08:14. > :08:17.The election was triggered after the power-sharing government

:08:18. > :08:22.Ninety members will be elected - 18 fewer than previously.

:08:23. > :08:31.Polling closes at ten o'clock tonight.

:08:32. > :08:33.MPs have called for the government to publish a long-delayed plan

:08:34. > :08:36.The government promised in its manifesto that it

:08:37. > :08:38.would restore damaged wildlife habitats - and leave them

:08:39. > :08:42.in a better state than before - but MPs want to see how they propose

:08:43. > :08:51.Our environment analyst Roger Harrabin reports:

:08:52. > :08:54.To the west of Manchester, a landscape devastated by digging

:08:55. > :09:00.So many wildlife sites degraded in England and the government's

:09:01. > :09:09.Here is one way how - row on row of tiny sphagnum moss

:09:10. > :09:12.plants being nurtured in a polytunnel.

:09:13. > :09:17.Planted out, they are helping to recreate a peat bog that stores

:09:18. > :09:41.Meadows used to be a common delight, now more than 90% of them are lost.

:09:42. > :09:43.The government has promised to safeguard them but its nature

:09:44. > :09:48.People of this country love their natural environment.

:09:49. > :09:50.Whether it's the green spaces in our cities,

:09:51. > :09:52.the seaside, the rivers, the forests, and they are,

:09:53. > :09:54.unfortunately, in decline and we need to see ambitious

:09:55. > :10:03.Wildlife around the seas should be enhanced by the nature strategy.

:10:04. > :10:06.MPs have now joined the chorus demanding for it to be published

:10:07. > :10:17.People seeking compensation over mis-sold payment protection

:10:18. > :10:19.insurance will have until the end of August 2019 to make a claim.

:10:20. > :10:24.Banks including Lloyds and RBS, have collectively paid out

:10:25. > :10:27.more than ?24 billion to customers so far.

:10:28. > :10:30.The final deadline for claims has been announced by the financial

:10:31. > :10:33.watchdog, to try and draw a line under one of the banking

:10:34. > :10:41.The head of the Oscars says the two accountants responsible for muddling

:10:42. > :10:45.up the main award envelopes at Sunday's ceremony will "never

:10:46. > :10:51.Brian Cullinan and Martha Ruiz were responsible for

:10:52. > :10:55.It's been described as the biggest mistake in 89 years

:10:56. > :11:00.The competition is on to become the UK City of Culture in 2021,

:11:01. > :11:04.succeeding this year's chosen city of Hull.

:11:05. > :11:06.Perth, Paisley, Stoke, Sunderland, Coventry and Hereford

:11:07. > :11:09.had already put themselves up for the accolade when they declared

:11:10. > :11:15.Five more are now added, including the smallest city

:11:16. > :11:26.The winner will be named in December.

:11:27. > :11:29.The BBC News Channel has won the Royal Television Society TV

:11:30. > :11:32.Journalism Award for News Channel of the Year.

:11:33. > :11:34.The jury recognised the News Channel for its coverage of stories

:11:35. > :11:35.including the EU Referendum, Donald Trump's election,

:11:36. > :11:38.the Nice terror attack, Jo Cox's murder and the inquests

:11:39. > :11:46.They say that elephants never forget - but it seems

:11:47. > :11:52.A new study of African elephants in the wild has revealed

:11:53. > :11:58.they sleep on average for just two hours a night.

:11:59. > :12:01.It's the shortest amount time recorded of any mammal on earth.

:12:02. > :12:03.Researchers say it could be down to the threat posed

:12:04. > :12:13.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:12:14. > :12:21.Thank you. Picking up on the story we are covering about the police

:12:22. > :12:25.service is being overstretched and having to downgrade some crimes

:12:26. > :12:31.because of lack of resources. Tessa says well done for running the story

:12:32. > :12:34.on net detectives. I left the Met last year. All too often we hear

:12:35. > :12:37.about police officers doing something wrong, but never how hard

:12:38. > :12:42.they work under impossible conditions. Keep your thoughts

:12:43. > :12:43.coming in on that and everything else we are talking about on the

:12:44. > :12:47.programme this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria Live

:12:48. > :12:51.and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

:12:52. > :12:53.now with Hugh... Hugh - a difficult day

:12:54. > :12:56.for British Cycling and Team Sky at the Culture, Media and Sport

:12:57. > :12:59.Select Committee yesterday. That's true. The situation is

:13:00. > :13:06.worsening. Well the situation in cycling

:13:07. > :13:09.is worsening just a few months ago British Cycling and Team Sky

:13:10. > :13:12.were amongst the country's most Now, with stories regarding

:13:13. > :13:19."therapeutic use exemptions" and "mystery packages",

:13:20. > :13:20.that "faith" seems The latest news concerns

:13:21. > :13:26.that "package" delivered to Sir Bradley Wiggins on the final

:13:27. > :13:29.day of the Criterium du Team Sky boss Sir Dave Brailsford

:13:30. > :13:32.told a Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee

:13:33. > :13:34.in December, that it contained an "over-the-counter decongestant" -

:13:35. > :13:37.but now we know the medic working with the team at the time -

:13:38. > :13:40.Dr Richard Freeman - who missed hearing incidently,

:13:41. > :13:44.due to ill health - has no record of Wiggins' treatment

:13:45. > :13:47.at the time and that a laptop containing the details of medical

:13:48. > :13:50.treatment had been stolen in 2014. UK Anti-Doping chief Nicole Sapstead

:13:51. > :13:52.described the situation as "odd" and the Committee's chairman,

:13:53. > :13:54.the MP Damian Collins said after the hearing

:13:55. > :13:56.that the "credibility of Team Sky Despite those responses,

:13:57. > :14:39.it seems things are unravelling for cycling and public perception

:14:40. > :14:42.around the sport is bound to change for the worse should more

:14:43. > :14:56.details like this come out. Turning to boxing. David Haye and

:14:57. > :15:00.Tony Bellew have been warned after what they called extremely

:15:01. > :15:01.disappointing comments before the heavyweight bout. What have they

:15:02. > :15:03.been saying? Now there's a big bout this weekend

:15:04. > :15:06.for boxing fans as David Haye the former World Champion takes

:15:07. > :15:09.on Tony Bellew in a heavyweight clash in London but the build up

:15:10. > :15:12.to the meeting has been marred by the words that have been used

:15:13. > :15:15.by each fighter but particularly Haye who has been warned

:15:16. > :15:18.by the British Boxing Board Haye told us last night he stands

:15:19. > :15:26.by all of his comments, despite saying Bellew

:15:27. > :15:36.was "risking his life" by moving up Every single thing I said. At the

:15:37. > :15:39.time I meant it. If I could rewind time I would probably do things a

:15:40. > :15:47.different way. But everything leading up to this fight will be

:15:48. > :15:51.forgotten once Tony Bellew is stretchered out of the ring. It is

:15:52. > :15:56.disrespectful. Dragging the sport through the mud. Wrong things to

:15:57. > :16:02.say. Saying what he said in Liverpool, about Scousers and

:16:03. > :16:07.lawyers, saying he was racially abused, we need to forget about it.

:16:08. > :16:09.He is a brilliant fighter. But a scumbag of a man.

:16:10. > :16:14.It should be a fantastic fight - you can hear it on Saturday night

:16:15. > :16:19.in full on BBC Radio 5 Live from around 10pm.

:16:20. > :16:24.A shortage of police detectives means "insufficient action"

:16:25. > :16:26.is being taken to track down murderers, rapists and

:16:27. > :16:32.other suspects in parts of England and Wales.

:16:33. > :16:35.The warning comes from Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary -

:16:36. > :16:37.the official watchdog which oversees policing standards.

:16:38. > :16:39.Their report says one in three police forces need to improve

:16:40. > :16:42.and a small number are putting the public at risk by rationing

:16:43. > :16:49.The country's biggest force - the Metropolitan Police in London -

:16:50. > :16:54.A Former Met Detective Dan Clark-Neal has been

:16:55. > :16:58.Just a warning that this film contains flashing images

:16:59. > :17:13.I wasn't able to give the level of service I wanted to give.

:17:14. > :17:17.Because of the pressures you are under all the time.

:17:18. > :17:19.They are carrying far too much of a workload

:17:20. > :17:23.and also, they are short of colleagues.

:17:24. > :17:26.The police are running on empty and goodwill, but unfortunately,

:17:27. > :17:29.that goodwill is rapidly running out and it's frightening

:17:30. > :17:34.and it's going to be to the detriment of victims.

:17:35. > :17:36.You get the feeling the organisation doesn't

:17:37. > :17:40.really care about you, but the people do.

:17:41. > :17:43.It's not good for me, it's not good for my health,

:17:44. > :17:54.The Metropolitan Police Service is the largest force in the country,

:17:55. > :17:56.with over 31,000 officers, and I myself used to be

:17:57. > :17:58.one of those officers, working as a detective

:17:59. > :18:07.Last month Cressida Dick was named as the Met's new commissioner.

:18:08. > :18:10.As she steps into the shoes of Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe

:18:11. > :18:12.and becomes Britain's top police officer, she will undoubtedly face

:18:13. > :18:16.intense media scrutiny from the start, having to tackle

:18:17. > :18:20.a rise in violent crime, deciding on the use of tasers

:18:21. > :18:24.and spit guards and dealing with political turbulence,

:18:25. > :18:26.all whilst inheriting a force hit by low officer morale,

:18:27. > :18:28.concerns about its performance and a budget under question

:18:29. > :18:47.Despite retaining most of its officers, approximately one

:18:48. > :18:50.third of the Met civilian and backroom workforce has been cut

:18:51. > :18:52.and the Police Federation, who represent rank and file

:18:53. > :18:59.officers, predict a reduction is now inevitable.

:19:00. > :19:02.Since 2010, we have seen, across the country, a reduction

:19:03. > :19:06.of about 21-22,000 of my colleagues from other forces.

:19:07. > :19:09.The Met has not been subject to that at all,

:19:10. > :19:11.so we haven't lost yet any of our officers in the Met.

:19:12. > :19:14.We can't find the sort of money that is being

:19:15. > :19:21.It is only recognisable that you have to reduce your numbers

:19:22. > :19:30.So, with worries that officer numbers could be hit,

:19:31. > :19:33.Cressida Dick may be concerned by reports of a shortage of 700

:19:34. > :19:42.This is partly because of increased investigations into offences

:19:43. > :19:45.like historic child abuse and cyber crime, all of which adds

:19:46. > :19:52.London is currently divided into 32 boroughs and each one

:19:53. > :19:54.has a dedicated CID, or criminal investigation

:19:55. > :19:56.department, and the Met Police Federation says the detective

:19:57. > :19:58.shortage is having an impact on staff.

:19:59. > :20:02.They are carrying far too much of a workload and also,

:20:03. > :20:07.Bearing in mind, we are 700 short, 700 CID officers short,

:20:08. > :20:16.That is my colleagues you are talking about who are carrying 50,

:20:17. > :20:18.60 crimes at a time, which puts them under

:20:19. > :20:22.huge stress and it all attributes to where we are.

:20:23. > :20:24.You never saw officers saying, I'm coming out of CID

:20:25. > :20:35.But officers like Rachel made that decision.

:20:36. > :20:38.She was a detective for 15 years, investigating everything

:20:39. > :20:43.from fraud and burglary, to robbery and child abuse.

:20:44. > :20:46.But recently, the pressures became too much and she decided to move

:20:47. > :20:50.She has asked us to hide her identity.

:20:51. > :20:56.There are 700 detective vacancies in the Met and I can

:20:57. > :21:01.Why on earth would you put yourself through all of that aggravation

:21:02. > :21:03.for the same pay when you can go back into uniform

:21:04. > :21:10.Work a great shift pattern, turn up, whizz around in a car,

:21:11. > :21:13.then answer 999 calls, someone needs arresting,

:21:14. > :21:16.you do that, book them in, hand them over to a detective,

:21:17. > :21:18.and then, the next day, you just come back in

:21:19. > :21:27.A detective is a trained investigator and it took me two

:21:28. > :21:31.years from applying in 2000 to actually becoming substantive

:21:32. > :21:36.and there was a real sense of achievement that came with it.

:21:37. > :21:44.I'm really looking forward to starting my new job.

:21:45. > :21:47.It's a sense of achievement shared with former detectives like Anji

:21:48. > :21:50.who in February resigned after ten years in the Met.

:21:51. > :21:52.Explain to me why being a detective isn't as appealing now

:21:53. > :21:55.as it was when you applied to do the job.

:21:56. > :22:06.There is work coming in all the time and there just aren't enough hours

:22:07. > :22:13.I think officers are carrying sort of 20 crimes or more.

:22:14. > :22:15.Sometimes there is more than one victim in an investigation,

:22:16. > :22:22.You don't just get allocated an investigation and that is it,

:22:23. > :22:24.you are left to get on with it, there's work coming in.

:22:25. > :22:29.We can't say, "Sorry, we are full, we are shut.

:22:30. > :22:40.Simon also left this year after ten years in the job.

:22:41. > :22:43.He was in the flying squad, the specialist unit investigating

:22:44. > :22:49.I loved the role and the work and there is nothing better

:22:50. > :22:53.when you are on a busy fast-time operation, but in ten years' time,

:22:54. > :22:56.when my children are growing up and I'm a bit older,

:22:57. > :22:59.I probably wouldn't want to be rolling out of bed at 4am

:23:00. > :23:06.So I was going through the promotion process to become a detective

:23:07. > :23:10.sergeant in the police and my options would have been

:23:11. > :23:13.limited there because generally, when you get promoted,

:23:14. > :23:17.you have to move off specialist unit, go back to a borough

:23:18. > :23:19.constabulary and the idea of that, frankly, did not

:23:20. > :23:27.Certainly the CID in borough has just been decimated.

:23:28. > :23:29.I certainly noticed that when I was going into CID

:23:30. > :23:38.Very few numbers and you could sense that morale was quite down.

:23:39. > :23:41.This is all against a backdrop of a rise in crime.

:23:42. > :23:45.In 2016, the Met recorded nearly 762,000 offences,

:23:46. > :23:47.3.5% up on 2015, so, of course, with an increased

:23:48. > :23:53.workload and a lack of staff comes heightened pressure.

:23:54. > :23:59.And a little bit of stress is good, you can strive on it,

:24:00. > :24:02.but when it is so high all the time, it's just not sustainable,

:24:03. > :24:09.I'd often wake up with headaches because I wasn't

:24:10. > :24:15.No matter how much you try to be organised at work and try to keep

:24:16. > :24:17.on top of everything, there was just more and more

:24:18. > :24:20.and more and there just wasn't enough of us to cope

:24:21. > :24:26.Although everybody is trying to make it work and make the best of it,

:24:27. > :24:29.it was just getting really stressful and I just found I was

:24:30. > :24:34.thinking, I don't think I can do this any more.

:24:35. > :24:37.Made me feel a bit of a failure, to be honest,

:24:38. > :24:45.But you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, should you?

:24:46. > :24:55.I thought it was a career I was going to do for 30 odd years and...

:24:56. > :25:05.With a really heavy heart, I have had to leave now.

:25:06. > :25:08.Rachel had a similar experience working in CID.

:25:09. > :25:11.I don't want to be so exhausted or so under pressure

:25:12. > :25:15.that I miss something, that either one of my victims gets

:25:16. > :25:17.killed or gets hurt, a case gets thrown out of court

:25:18. > :25:19.because of something I missed because I was

:25:20. > :25:33.I found myself no longer being a police officer.

:25:34. > :25:35.I was a stationary orderer, a photocopier fixer,

:25:36. > :25:37.a social worker to team-mates, then there was being

:25:38. > :25:41.Very rarely did I actually find myself doing any of the police work

:25:42. > :25:45.Detectives are just so downtrodden and fed up and demotivated.

:25:46. > :25:51.Things are going to get put on the back burner or some things

:25:52. > :25:54.just get written off because there isn't the time

:25:55. > :26:00.People just stop coming forward and then bad people will end up

:26:01. > :26:05.Do you feel that is happening already, Rachel?

:26:06. > :26:07.Bad people are getting away with things, suspects are not

:26:08. > :26:10.getting dealt with properly because of a lack of resources?

:26:11. > :26:11.Undoubtedly, because of stupid technicalities and mistakes

:26:12. > :26:14.being made, and it doesn't matter whether evidence is overwhelming,

:26:15. > :26:16.that somebody has done something, because procedure just hasn't been

:26:17. > :26:28.followed and a case will get thrown out because of a mistake.

:26:29. > :26:53.From the people we have spoken to, it seems morale among the Met

:26:54. > :26:56.detectives is at a concerning low and with worries that continued

:26:57. > :26:58.budget cuts will hit officer numbers in 2017,

:26:59. > :27:05.the question is, where does this leave the world-famous Met CID?

:27:06. > :27:20.We heard in your report, obviously, people talking about their distress,

:27:21. > :27:24.really, and not being able to do the job properly. But some would say, if

:27:25. > :27:29.you know what to do any job, you get on and do it, is there an element

:27:30. > :27:33.about it being bad policing? There is really not. In that film you

:27:34. > :27:37.could see that the officers we spoke to have over ten years experience,

:27:38. > :27:40.they've been doing the role of detector for at least five years and

:27:41. > :27:47.you cannot do it that long if you are not up to a -- detective. It is

:27:48. > :27:51.down to heightened pressures as a result of increased workloads. There

:27:52. > :27:55.is increased reporting of serious offences, like child abuse, rape,

:27:56. > :27:59.domestic violence, and cybercrime has become a big issue. The

:28:00. > :28:07.resources we once had are still there but that is the point to make

:28:08. > :28:10.about the Met police but they have been moved to other departments and

:28:11. > :28:16.offices are struggling. The report says crimes that have been

:28:17. > :28:20.downgraded have not been properly investigated, the inspector says

:28:21. > :28:26.that she is raising a red flag, a warning and consequences of it. We

:28:27. > :28:30.heard about people getting away with things, what are the consequences?

:28:31. > :28:34.To those we spoke to over the last couple of weeks, that seems to be

:28:35. > :28:37.the case. Victims are not getting the services they should because

:28:38. > :28:41.they cannot cope with pressures. That means that people are getting

:28:42. > :28:45.away with crimes they committed. What message does it send to

:28:46. > :28:52.criminals? Victims would feel neglected, trust will be damaged,

:28:53. > :29:04.criminals will be thinking, we can get away with it? They will be. That

:29:05. > :29:08.is why HM ICR clear that the national police... I forgot the

:29:09. > :29:12.forename! Apologies there. The National police chief 's counsel,

:29:13. > :29:17.they will have to sit with the College of policing and come up with

:29:18. > :29:21.a resolution for this problem -- HMIC. They wanted done by June, and

:29:22. > :29:25.have it in action by the end of the year. -- they wanted done. Thank

:29:26. > :29:26.you. As we heard at the end of Dan's

:29:27. > :29:30.report, the Met Police say detective recruitment and retention

:29:31. > :29:31.is a priority. They also told us it's not an issue

:29:32. > :29:34.unique to London and said: "London is actually the only force

:29:35. > :29:37.to have maintained officer We also asked the Mayor's

:29:38. > :29:40.office to respond. They told us there are a number

:29:41. > :29:43.of schemes in place to attract recruits including: "External

:29:44. > :29:45.recruitment campaigns; detective recruitment open days; a specialist

:29:46. > :29:47.crime trainee detective scheme; There is also work to recruit more

:29:48. > :30:00.direct-entry detectives." Mike e-mailed to say that he was a

:30:01. > :30:03.detective constable and a police force outside of London where

:30:04. > :30:11.officers regularly work 12-16 hours per day, they work seven days on,

:30:12. > :30:16.three days off as a shift pattern. It is a must guarantee that you'll

:30:17. > :30:22.go home late before overtime many my colleagues earn between 28- ?33,000,

:30:23. > :30:26.after overtime we are paid less than many skilled workers. The situation

:30:27. > :30:29.is not unique in the public sector but it is no wonder that recruitment

:30:30. > :30:33.and retention is a dire problem. We will be talking more about it

:30:34. > :30:36.after 10am, keep your thoughts coming in...

:30:37. > :30:39.The NHS is standing on a 'burning platform' -

:30:40. > :30:42.a dire warning from the chief inspector of hospitals in England -

:30:43. > :30:45.who says four out of five hospitals are unsafe

:30:46. > :30:51.And we will hear from women who expressed extreme morning sickness.

:30:52. > :30:55.Some sufferers have said, according to a charity, that they have

:30:56. > :30:58.terminated their pregnancies. We will speak to two women sick at

:30:59. > :31:05.least 30 times per day during their pregnancies.

:31:06. > :31:11.We would love to hear from you if you have had experience of that and

:31:12. > :31:14.how desperate you got knowing that the sickness was going to continue

:31:15. > :31:16.for months during the pregnancy. Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

:31:17. > :31:19.with a summary of todays news. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

:31:20. > :31:20.of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

:31:21. > :31:23.of the "potentially perilous" state It found a third of forces

:31:24. > :31:30.needed improvement - while a small number were putting

:31:31. > :31:33.the public at unacceptable risk Some chief constables say

:31:34. > :31:38.the report is unfair - because they have limited resources

:31:39. > :31:41.- but the report's author said it The government says it will seek

:31:42. > :31:47.to overturn a demand by the House of Lords that EU citizens living

:31:48. > :31:50.in the UK should be allowed to stay Peers defied ministers

:31:51. > :31:55.when they voted by a large margin to guarantee their rights

:31:56. > :31:58.but the prime minister, Theresa May, has said that should be negotiated

:31:59. > :32:01.alongside a deal for British The Bill will return

:32:02. > :32:20.to the Commons later this month. Nearly two-thirds of England's

:32:21. > :32:21.hospitals have been rated as "inadequate" or "needing

:32:22. > :32:24.improvement" in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

:32:25. > :32:27.Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

:32:28. > :32:30.to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged to be

:32:31. > :32:32."good" or "outstanding" Senior opponents of President Trump

:32:33. > :32:51.are calling for his newly appointed It emerged that Jeff Sessions,

:32:52. > :32:54.had two undisclosed encounters with the Russian

:32:55. > :32:56.ambassador, during the recent Mr Sessions oversees the FBI,

:32:57. > :32:59.which is currently investigating The White House maintains

:33:00. > :33:10.there was no improper contact. Voting is underway in the Northern

:33:11. > :33:12.Ireland Assembly elections - The election was triggered

:33:13. > :33:16.after the power-sharing government Ninety members will be elected -

:33:17. > :33:20.18 fewer than previously. Polling closes at ten

:33:21. > :33:28.o'clock tonight. The head of the Oscars says the two

:33:29. > :33:31.accountants responsible for muddling up the main award envelopes

:33:32. > :33:33.at Sunday's ceremony will 'never work on the show again.'

:33:34. > :33:36.Brian Cullinan and Martha Ruiz were responsible for handing out

:33:37. > :33:38.the envelopes, It's been described as the biggest mistake in 89 years

:33:39. > :33:48.of Academy Awards history. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:49. > :34:00.News - more at 10.00. We are getting a report that a North

:34:01. > :34:03.Korean official in Malaysia has been talking about the death of the half

:34:04. > :34:18.brother of the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. He was assassinated at

:34:19. > :34:23.Kuala Lumpur airport 's, dying as a result of nerve gas. But an official

:34:24. > :34:28.has said that he actually died of natural causes and that a heart

:34:29. > :34:33.attack was the cause of death. There have been efforts by North Korea to

:34:34. > :34:39.have the body repatriated to North Korea. There was also unhappiness

:34:40. > :34:46.there about the postmortem exacerbation being carried out in

:34:47. > :34:51.Malaysia. -- examination. That's the latest on that ongoing story after

:34:52. > :34:53.the dramatic death of Kim Jong-Un's half brother.

:34:54. > :34:57.British Cycling has acknowledged 'serious failings' in its record

:34:58. > :34:59.keeping after being criticised by the woman in charge

:35:00. > :35:03.Nicole Sapstead told a committee of MPs that UK Anti-Doping's

:35:04. > :35:05.investigation into wrongdoing in the sport has been

:35:06. > :35:06.hampered by problems - including Team Sky's

:35:07. > :35:13.Andy Murray is into the quarterfinals at

:35:14. > :35:15.the Dubai International, after a comfortable straight sets

:35:16. > :35:25.-- victory over Spain's Gullermo Garcia-Lopez yesterday.

:35:26. > :35:26.He'll play Germany's Philipp Kohlschreiber,

:35:27. > :35:30.Earlier this morning Heather Watson was beaten in the second

:35:31. > :35:38.Manchester City are through to the last eight of the FA Cup

:35:39. > :35:40.after a comfortable 5-1 win in their replay against

:35:41. > :35:45.City will play Middlesborough in the next round.

:35:46. > :35:48.Celtic are now 27 points clear at the top

:35:49. > :35:53.Scott Sinclair and two Moussa Dembele goals helped them

:35:54. > :35:56.to a 4-0 win over bottom side Inverness Caledonian Thistle.

:35:57. > :36:11.There were also wins for Rangers, Ross County and Partick Thistle.

:36:12. > :36:13.And finally, Celtic have paid tribute to

:36:14. > :36:15.Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell, who has died aged 73

:36:16. > :36:18.The former defender Gemmell scored in the 2-1 victory

:36:19. > :36:21.against Inter Milan in 1967 when Celtic became the first British

:36:22. > :36:25.I'll have more sport Joanna just after ten.

:36:26. > :36:28.The Chief Inspector of Hospitals in England has given a stark

:36:29. > :36:30.warning that the NHS stands on a "burning platform".

:36:31. > :36:33.Professor Sir Mike Richards says the traditional model of caring

:36:34. > :36:35.for patients is "no longer capable" of delivering the needs

:36:36. > :36:43.Our Health Correspondent Nick Triggle is here.

:36:44. > :36:52.Really dramatic comments by him. What has led him to make these

:36:53. > :36:54.comments? They are. This is a milestone for hospitals. The last

:36:55. > :36:59.three years hospitals have been undergoing a tougher regime which

:37:00. > :37:06.was meant to be patient safety at its heart. After the last one was

:37:07. > :37:12.described as a tick box exercise. All 136 trusts in England have been

:37:13. > :37:16.looked at. Four in five are not good enough on safety. They have cited

:37:17. > :37:20.overcrowded wards, not enough nurses available, not enough doctors in

:37:21. > :37:27.accident and emergency, not enough doctors in maternity units. This is

:37:28. > :37:32.what Sir Mike Richards had to say: Increasing numbers of people being

:37:33. > :37:34.referred to hospital, or arriving at accident and emergency.

:37:35. > :37:38.We see the difficulty in what we call the flow through the hospital.

:37:39. > :37:42.People having to wait too long in a and E particularly if they require

:37:43. > :37:52.admission. This is where people are referred to trolley waits. People

:37:53. > :37:55.being moved from waterboard because there are not enough beds. -- people

:37:56. > :38:14.being from -- people being moved from Ward to

:38:15. > :38:19.Ward. What is he hinting at? He is hinting at moving care from

:38:20. > :38:24.hospitals to communities. They want to see hospital doctors running

:38:25. > :38:29.community clinics. They want to see GPs, nurses and council care staff

:38:30. > :38:32.working together in super hubs. The idea was to keep people well in the

:38:33. > :38:35.community so vast numbers don't go into hospital and that relieves the

:38:36. > :38:37.pressure. Thanks very much. Bungled out - after that

:38:38. > :38:40.infamous Oscars mistake - the two accountants in charge

:38:41. > :38:43.of the envelopes, are given The cost of housing in the UK seems

:38:44. > :38:50.to be one of those problems Today, another damming account

:38:51. > :38:53.from the homelessness charity Shelter shows that 8 out

:38:54. > :38:55.of 10 families in rented accommodation can't afford to buy

:38:56. > :39:01.a new home where they live. That's even if they use

:39:02. > :39:04.the government's Help to Buy scheme. The report claims the West

:39:05. > :39:06.Midlands is the least affordable region, with a 93%

:39:07. > :39:08.of privately renting families struggling to afford to buy

:39:09. > :39:14.an average-priced new home. It says the homes being built

:39:15. > :39:17.are too expensive and poor quality. Today we want to focus

:39:18. > :39:20.on what can be done to solve With me now are Beth Thomas -

:39:21. > :39:29.she's been unable to afford to buy a family home,

:39:30. > :39:31.and has been forced to rent with her husband and two children

:39:32. > :39:34.for the past thirteen years. Henry Gregg from the National

:39:35. > :39:36.Housing Federation - which represents Housing

:39:37. > :39:37.Associations. Andrew Boff, chair of

:39:38. > :39:41.London's Housing Committee, Kate Webb is Head

:39:42. > :39:51.of Policy at Shelter. Thank you all for coming in. When

:39:52. > :39:56.eight out of ten people cannot afford to buy a new home in their

:39:57. > :40:03.area, it clearly shows this is not just a problem affecting London.

:40:04. > :40:07.Absolutely not. Our housing market really is broken. The government

:40:08. > :40:12.acknowledge this with their White Paper. The reasons for this, going

:40:13. > :40:15.to the heart of how we build homes, we have relied in recent years on

:40:16. > :40:21.the speculative development model where we sell land to the highest

:40:22. > :40:24.bidder. Developers have to stretch themselves to the limited by it.

:40:25. > :40:29.Which means you then need to price it as high as possible, but often

:40:30. > :40:34.compromise on quality. It means developers are making profits

:40:35. > :40:36.landowners are doing well, but the local communities who actually need

:40:37. > :40:42.the homes are not getting homes they can afford and there are a beautiful

:40:43. > :40:49.places where they want to live. -- they are. It is not about kite marks

:40:50. > :40:54.and standard it is about how we build houses, starting with buying

:40:55. > :41:02.land. Turning to the Victorian model of philanthropy. Yes. That is one

:41:03. > :41:07.example of how it has worked well. But there is also the garden cities,

:41:08. > :41:15.places like Letchworth. The Olympic Park was built because you had a

:41:16. > :41:20.Housing Corporation who wanted to use the land for local people and

:41:21. > :41:24.have homes in attractive places that crucially people can afford. Why is

:41:25. > :41:29.that not happening more often. The problem is, there is not enough

:41:30. > :41:32.people in the market. There is not enough people in the housing

:41:33. > :41:38.business who are developing homes. And they're recent enough diversity

:41:39. > :41:42.of provision as Shelter have indicated. There is one provision,

:41:43. > :41:47.developers buying land, building as much as they can, and selling it for

:41:48. > :41:51.as much profit as they can. I'm not saying we need to abandon that

:41:52. > :41:59.wholesale. But we would need other forms. Has there been naivete? Have

:42:00. > :42:02.builders just been cashing in? Meanwhile with the government

:42:03. > :42:07.subsidising it, meaning that people who need the houses cannot afford it

:42:08. > :42:11.because of the high prices? For a generation we haven't focused on the

:42:12. > :42:17.housing market. We have let it go, hoping it would settle itself. In

:42:18. > :42:20.the meantime we've loaded obligations on to developers.

:42:21. > :42:24.Meaning it is harder to build homes. If you look at some of the proposals

:42:25. > :42:29.from the report, it would encourage things like community land trusts. A

:42:30. > :42:33.land trust strips the value of the land out of the equation and means

:42:34. > :42:37.that you are just buying the home. That is going to be a marvellous

:42:38. > :42:41.start for a lot of young people who are looking to get that first step

:42:42. > :42:48.on the ladder. Let's not forget that most people in this country, their

:42:49. > :42:52.aspiration is to have a home, have a stake in their home. It isn't to

:42:53. > :42:56.rent. And that is what they have to do. And you are one of these people

:42:57. > :43:01.who would like to buy their own home. Married, two kids, but you

:43:02. > :43:05.just can't. Even at the height of mine and my husband's earnings we

:43:06. > :43:11.haven't been in a position to buy a house. We've had to rent. Then rent

:43:12. > :43:14.goes up. Then we can't save to get a deposit for a mortgage. It just

:43:15. > :43:20.carries on. Each year prices go up again. We just gave up in the end.

:43:21. > :43:25.We just thought there is no point in even thinking about trying to get a

:43:26. > :43:29.mortgage, let's continue renting. Cut our hours, stop being so

:43:30. > :43:34.stressed trying to earn so much money to buy a house, just wasn't

:43:35. > :43:40.going to happen. You have given up. Yes. There are offerings by the

:43:41. > :43:47.government, the first by scheme, the share scheme, was that no good? That

:43:48. > :43:50.is unaffordable. Because you need to have a deposit together. While we

:43:51. > :43:56.are renting we cannot afford to save for a deposit. We have nothing. We

:43:57. > :44:00.are paying our outgoings with our incomings and that's it. There is

:44:01. > :44:09.nothing left to save. What would help? What Shelter are proposing

:44:10. > :44:17.would help. Having schemes where the housing is more affordable to the

:44:18. > :44:20.normal kind of person like myself. Even on the share to buy scheme,

:44:21. > :44:27.shared ownership, we would still have to have an income of ?40,000

:44:28. > :44:34.between us just for a 40% share of a property in our area. My husband and

:44:35. > :44:42.I can't... We don't have jobs that pay ?20,000 each. It's just not the

:44:43. > :44:47.norm, I don't think. Lots of people probably do earn that much, but for

:44:48. > :44:51.the general majority I think 20 grand and under is more realistic.

:44:52. > :44:57.You with the National Federation, what is the answer? Political

:44:58. > :45:02.leadership. Everyone accepts there is a housing crisis. They have done

:45:03. > :45:06.the years, we've been talking about this forever. The government, this

:45:07. > :45:10.year, with the white Paper has accepted the housing market has

:45:11. > :45:15.broken. It's the first on the government has spoken like that. It

:45:16. > :45:18.is really welcome. But we now need concrete proposals which will make a

:45:19. > :45:25.difference. The main proposals need to be around land. We could do much

:45:26. > :45:30.more. But we need land to come through at an affordable rate. We

:45:31. > :45:34.can then build homes which are affordable to local people like Beth

:45:35. > :45:37.so she can stay in the area where her parents are, where she has grown

:45:38. > :45:44.up, and stay in the community. You both jumped in. When we said that it

:45:45. > :45:48.has been like this for years, but you feel there is a change. Is now a

:45:49. > :45:53.time when the issue is being properly grappled?

:45:54. > :45:57.Certainly, it was important the government admitted the market is

:45:58. > :46:01.broken, it gives them permission to do the radical changes needed and

:46:02. > :46:04.have worked in the past. A really good example is how we use public

:46:05. > :46:10.land. There's aways been the sunshine that yes, we could use

:46:11. > :46:15.public land for building but they've always been told to sell it to the

:46:16. > :46:19.highest bidder. But today, let's rethink that, it says on the report

:46:20. > :46:23.today. It would be important agriculture is for if the council

:46:24. > :46:28.retained a steak so that they could use public land to be used for homes

:46:29. > :46:33.the local community could afford. Let's build that way rather than

:46:34. > :46:37.flogging it to a developer and negotiating a few affordable homes.

:46:38. > :46:41.Andrew, what about, there may be restrictions on who buys the houses,

:46:42. > :46:45.places are built and then snapped up by investors, they are not for the

:46:46. > :46:49.local community. That is a feature of the way we are developing

:46:50. > :46:53.housing. We are putting so many obligations and developers that in

:46:54. > :47:00.order to make up the obligations, they are building these very

:47:01. > :47:06.expensive penthouse apartments that are unattainable for the local

:47:07. > :47:13.people. The system is definitely broken. We think this has always

:47:14. > :47:19.been the case. If you look at the election before last in London,

:47:20. > :47:24.housing was really unimportant as an issue. It was transport, policing,

:47:25. > :47:29.they were the burning hot topics. It is only recently we have realised

:47:30. > :47:36.that we've not been providing solutions. Anyone who tells you

:47:37. > :47:40.there is one solution to the housing problem is a charlatan, we need a

:47:41. > :47:45.lot of little solutions. We need to encourage more self building, you

:47:46. > :47:49.could build a home potentially for tens of thousands of pounds, rather

:47:50. > :47:55.than the hundreds we talk about, if we are permitted self building.

:47:56. > :48:02.Would you do that? I think possibly... It sounds.. Not a bad

:48:03. > :48:07.option. But you would have to buy the land. This is an option, why not

:48:08. > :48:10.just be able to choose a piece of land where you can develop and say

:48:11. > :48:14.to the local authorities, I will build on this land, I'll pay you

:48:15. > :48:18.when I first sell it so you can live there and pay your local authority

:48:19. > :48:23.the capital value once you sell it on. That would start more excitement

:48:24. > :48:27.and all of those people who watch grand designs, for example, I hope

:48:28. > :48:30.that is not a plug for a programme we should not, but for all those

:48:31. > :48:34.people who watch that programme and then, this is not achievable, in

:48:35. > :48:41.many countries in Europe it is not that way because they have a better

:48:42. > :48:44.attitude towards the use of land. Some creative solutions, thank you.

:48:45. > :48:49.Keep your comments coming in. Let me read you some on police issues that

:48:50. > :48:53.we've been reporting on this morning, the shortage of police

:48:54. > :48:57.officers and pressure put on the services as a result, Richard says

:48:58. > :49:01.he is a recently retired police constable. The lack of detectors has

:49:02. > :49:04.a knock-on effect on the neighbourhood and uniformed response

:49:05. > :49:08.officers who have to investigate crimes previously allocated to a

:49:09. > :49:11.detective. They are often more serious and the victims need a

:49:12. > :49:15.specialist approach that a response officer cannot provide to the same

:49:16. > :49:20.degree. The public are being let down. Poor e-mailed, I resigned from

:49:21. > :49:25.Cleveland Police in December 2013, he had approached 13 years of

:49:26. > :49:30.service and several of those predominantly in CAD -- Paul. He

:49:31. > :49:32.left for similar reasons and was completely disillusioned by how we

:49:33. > :49:40.were treated by the government. Budgets were slashed and workloads

:49:41. > :49:43.increased, I had commendations for my Chief Constable and a Crown Court

:49:44. > :49:52.judge, I did not leave under any kind of clout that I left with a

:49:53. > :50:00.heavy heart. -- under any kind of cloud. It is or is great for your

:50:01. > :50:02.input, please keep it coming. -- it is always great to have your input.

:50:03. > :50:05.Extreme morning sickness affects about one in 100 expectant mothers.

:50:06. > :50:07.The Duchess of Cambridge famously suffered from the condition

:50:08. > :50:10.which can cause women to be sick up to 50 times a day, and even

:50:11. > :50:14.Pregnancy charities have found that some sufferers are being given such

:50:15. > :50:17.poor care they feel they have no choice but to terminate

:50:18. > :50:27.sickness or 'hyperemesis gravidarum' and suffered from extreme morning

:50:28. > :50:28.during pregnancies for both her children.

:50:29. > :50:39.She said it was so severe she won't have a third.

:50:40. > :50:41.Megan Crawford, who had baby Otis just over three months ago,

:50:42. > :50:44.struggled with the condition throughout her pregnancy.

:50:45. > :50:46.She says her condition wasn't taken seriously by medical professionals.

:50:47. > :50:49.And, Caitlin Dean is a nurse specialist and the chair

:50:50. > :50:53.of pregnancy charity 'Pregnancy Sickness Support'

:50:54. > :50:56.who also suffered from HG through all three of her pregnancies.

:50:57. > :51:00.She says there's a huge disparity in care in the UK right now.

:51:01. > :51:09.Thank you for coming in. Megan, you had Otis three months ago but it was

:51:10. > :51:15.a terrible pregnancy, tell us about it. Four weeks into finding out that

:51:16. > :51:21.we were pregnant with Otis, the sickness came on. I was being sick

:51:22. > :51:26.up to 20 to 30 times per day, I lost a stone and a half in five weeks. It

:51:27. > :51:31.took a bit of time from the GP surgeries to get referred to the

:51:32. > :51:36.hospital. To the point that actually, by the time we got into

:51:37. > :51:40.the hospital, I collapsed and lots of people struggle to get IVs into

:51:41. > :51:46.me because I was so severely dehydrated. It sounds horrific.

:51:47. > :51:50.Normally, when we are sick, not to that extent, just dozens of times

:51:51. > :51:54.per day, you know it will lend because it will be a bug that you

:51:55. > :51:58.knew it was related to the pregnancy. How did you get through

:51:59. > :52:04.that? The trouble with it was is that when you are ill and sick, you

:52:05. > :52:08.get 30 minutes relief after. But there is no relief. You feel

:52:09. > :52:14.completely desperate. What was a typical day like? You lose day and

:52:15. > :52:18.night, you will sleep for an hour, followed for one hour, then sleep

:52:19. > :52:25.for one hour... On a rotation for months. The charity which is talking

:52:26. > :52:28.about this today has said people have opted to terminate pregnancies

:52:29. > :52:31.because of this. That's the only way that they can see to stop this

:52:32. > :52:38.sickness. Did that thought ever cross your mind? I think the thought

:52:39. > :52:43.of going on with the pregnancy was a very difficult thing to consider.

:52:44. > :52:48.But I was quite lucky, in the end I did get really good care at the

:52:49. > :52:51.hospital I was treated at. So, eventually, it was under control but

:52:52. > :52:57.I spoke to women since volunteering for the charity that that has been

:52:58. > :53:02.their only option. You know women who have terminated? Not personally,

:53:03. > :53:06.but I have spoken to people. Rachel, you had extreme sickness through

:53:07. > :53:11.both of your pregnancies, you have Molly and Oscar, now for Michael

:53:12. > :53:18.Cole four and single Mac, how many times where you sick per day? -- now

:53:19. > :53:24.four and one years old. It was relentless, that was at its worst.

:53:25. > :53:31.When it was not vomiting, the nausea was overwhelming. It was continuous

:53:32. > :53:36.for the first five months. How did you cope? It must have been

:53:37. > :53:40.traumatic. It is, and it is very difficult. Obviously, with my son,

:53:41. > :53:44.because I already have my daughter, it was more difficult on top. Caring

:53:45. > :53:48.for her is very difficult when you cannot get off the bathroom floor or

:53:49. > :53:52.get out of bed because you are so sick. I became very reliant on my

:53:53. > :53:58.husband and other members of the family to help out. It is very

:53:59. > :54:03.challenging, emotionally and mentally, when you cannot function

:54:04. > :54:10.physically. Were you worried about the unborn baby as well? Yes. It is

:54:11. > :54:16.very worrying to go through a pregnancy when he also ill and

:54:17. > :54:22.malnourished. I lost over 20% of my prepregnancy birth weight. You would

:54:23. > :54:25.be very concerned about the impact on the foetus and the fact that you

:54:26. > :54:27.are taking medication, I was on strong medication for a long time,

:54:28. > :54:37.and even though doctors reassured me that it was safe, you wonder if

:54:38. > :54:41.you are doing the right thing by your child. The British pregnancy

:54:42. > :54:46.advisory service said that this is not being taken seriously enough,

:54:47. > :54:48.what is your view? That is the problem, luckily Rachel was

:54:49. > :54:52.reassured that the medications was safe but many women face being told

:54:53. > :55:01.that nothing is safe and they should not be taking medication or that

:55:02. > :55:04.what they suffer is normal, but this isn't and they need treatment. It is

:55:05. > :55:10.when women cannot access treatment that they are really being failed.

:55:11. > :55:17.Have you met women, do you know women, who have terminated because

:55:18. > :55:21.of it? Yes, a lot. A lot? Yes, I've run the charity and the helpline for

:55:22. > :55:26.a number of years and termination is relatively common. We estimate about

:55:27. > :55:31.10% will terminate the pregnancy because... 10% of women with

:55:32. > :55:36.hyperemesis gravidarum would terminate? Yes, generally, that is

:55:37. > :55:39.because they are not supported enough by the health care

:55:40. > :55:43.professionals, or offer before range of medications. That is massively

:55:44. > :55:46.improving at the moment, over the last couple of years we've seen

:55:47. > :55:48.improvements thanks to the guidelines coming out and

:55:49. > :55:53.introduction of day units for treating this so that they can

:55:54. > :55:56.manage it in their lives. But women face losing their jobs are not being

:55:57. > :56:00.able to pay their mortgages or childcare. They cannot manage it

:56:01. > :56:04.within their lives, so they have no choice but to terminate. Megan,

:56:05. > :56:08.would you have another baby after going through that? Yeah, we

:56:09. > :56:17.desperately want voters -- we desperately want Otis to have

:56:18. > :56:22.a sibling but it would take some planning. You said that you got good

:56:23. > :56:28.treatment in the end, did it stop the sickness? I went back to work at

:56:29. > :56:31.five months, but I was off for four weeks. It is a huge amount of time

:56:32. > :56:36.to be out of work, when some people expect they can carry on as normal

:56:37. > :56:41.throughout pregnancy? And maternity leave is calculated on a period of

:56:42. > :56:43.time where most women with hyperemesis gravidarum are off sick

:56:44. > :56:51.so they lose maternity pay because of that which is a big problem. Did

:56:52. > :56:55.that pitted burden on the families? Umm, yes, I was sorted in terms of

:56:56. > :56:59.maternity leave but it does have an impact -- did it put a burden. And

:57:00. > :57:05.you would not have another baby as a result of the sickness you had,

:57:06. > :57:09.Rachel? Yes, we have two children now, we are very blessed but to put

:57:10. > :57:14.my daughter through that again, we cannot do that. And my husband, it

:57:15. > :57:18.was a huge pressure on him. I had a lot of time off work because of how

:57:19. > :57:23.ill I was, I was hospitalised for a long time, and with my daughter, I

:57:24. > :57:27.was admitted for over four months. To put my children through that is

:57:28. > :57:33.too much. The tall in your body as well, it does a lot to you

:57:34. > :57:38.physically and mentally, and I'm not prepared to go through that again,

:57:39. > :57:41.unfortunately -- toll. Understandably. Thank you to all

:57:42. > :57:43.three of you. Let us know your experiences if you've had to go

:57:44. > :57:48.through that. The Lords rebel against

:57:49. > :57:50.the government - voting to ensure EU citizens to stay in the UK -

:57:51. > :57:53.the government vow to Let's get the latest weather

:57:54. > :58:02.update with Carol. How are you?

:58:03. > :58:04.It is nice to see you. We had a spectacular Northern lights pictures

:58:05. > :58:08.last night. We will show you them in a minute but if you are interested

:58:09. > :58:13.in the Northern lights, tonight there's a good chance of seeing them

:58:14. > :58:18.between 9pm and 3am across parts of Scotland, north of the Central belt,

:58:19. > :58:20.and we are looking at places like Borrie, Aberdeenshire, and the

:58:21. > :58:28.north-west Highlands and the Highlands. This is a cracking

:58:29. > :58:34.picture from last night. In Aberdeenshire, look at this lovely

:58:35. > :58:37.colours. And this one from northern Scotland, beautiful colours, a

:58:38. > :58:41.really good set of Northern lights last night. And this one in the Isle

:58:42. > :58:47.of Skye, another cracking picture. And more, this one is from this

:58:48. > :58:50.morning, not the Northern lights but we have seen some snow as well as

:58:51. > :58:57.rain across parts of the North of England. It has been a bright and

:58:58. > :59:01.breezy day, windy this morning, across southern England and Wales.

:59:02. > :59:06.That wind will ease as we go through the day, but it will still be

:59:07. > :59:10.breezy. We have this line of cloud across North Wales, the North

:59:11. > :59:15.Midlands, northern England and East Anglia. It has been producing snow.

:59:16. > :59:20.But most of it will fizzle as we go through the day. Further south, dry

:59:21. > :59:24.weather round today. Some sunshine, a couple of shower was dotted across

:59:25. > :59:28.north-west England and south-west Wales. You would be unlucky if you

:59:29. > :59:37.catch one in the South East, a lot of dry weather, breezy, sunshine in

:59:38. > :59:43.the north-west, some showers. Bright skies in Northern Ireland, cloudy

:59:44. > :59:45.from the South, showers on the hills of Scotland, and between, there will

:59:46. > :59:55.be sunshine. Through the evening Anne -- and overnight, hill snow

:59:56. > :59:59.extends across the Channel, into Scotland and northern England. These

:00:00. > :00:03.two bands of rain push up from the south, in southern England and

:00:04. > :00:07.Wales, and Northern Ireland. The risk of ice, damp surfaces and

:00:08. > :00:11.low-temperature is in Scotland, this is also where you have a good chance

:00:12. > :00:15.of seeing the Northern lights. Tomorrow, both bands of rain

:00:16. > :00:20.continued to advance northwards. We could hang onto brighter breaks in

:00:21. > :00:23.the far north of England. It is fairly tenuous. And some of it gets

:00:24. > :00:28.into western Scotland with hill snow. Most of the North of Scotland

:00:29. > :00:33.sees the lions share of any sunshine. Here, cold, six and 7

:00:34. > :00:37.degrees. In the south, anywhere between ten and 12. As we head into

:00:38. > :00:43.the weekend, the theme remains unsettled. Still dominated by low

:00:44. > :00:45.pressure. This weather front extends from the Mediterranean through

:00:46. > :00:52.Central parts of Europe, into our own shores. It produces rain in the

:00:53. > :00:56.south-east, moving through Scotland and depositing hill snow. That is

:00:57. > :01:01.across Northern Ireland and the last bit of the coal into the south-west

:01:02. > :01:05.and also Wales. No heatwave, about 8 degrees to 11 degrees.

:01:06. > :01:09.Hello it's Thursday, it's 10 o'clock - I'm Joanna Gosling.

:01:10. > :01:11.Victims are being let down and suspects left untracked

:01:12. > :01:13.as police forces around England and Wales struggle with cutbacks -

:01:14. > :01:16.that's according to a report out this morning.

:01:17. > :01:17.We will be speaking to former and serving

:01:18. > :01:35.Everybody is trying to make it work and make the best of it, it was

:01:36. > :01:38.getting really stressful. I ended up thinking, I don't think I can do

:01:39. > :01:45.this any more, it made me feel a bit of a failure, to be honest, that I

:01:46. > :01:49.could not stick at it. We will be talking more about this later. Lots

:01:50. > :01:58.of former police officers have been messaging us about that. Also coming

:01:59. > :02:03.up: Content 358, not content, 256. The contents have it.

:02:04. > :02:06.The first defeat for the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords.

:02:07. > :02:08.Now Government sources say ministers will try and overturn the vote.

:02:09. > :02:17.But after last night's crushing defeat here will MPs over there be

:02:18. > :02:25.emboldened and ready to define Theresa May-- the FAI Theresa May

:02:26. > :02:31.and thwart her efforts. -- And after the mishap hailed

:02:32. > :02:34.as the biggest mistake in 89 years of Oscar's history,

:02:35. > :02:36.the two accountants responsible for muddling up the envelopes

:02:37. > :02:39.will not be employed to do the job Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

:02:40. > :02:44.with a summary of todays news. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

:02:45. > :02:46.of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

:02:47. > :02:48.of the potentially perilous state of the service in England and Wales.

:02:49. > :02:51.It found a third of forces needed improvement while a small number

:02:52. > :02:53.were putting the public at unacceptable risk

:02:54. > :02:55.by rationing services. Some chief constables say the report

:02:56. > :02:58.is unfair because they have limited resources but the report's author

:02:59. > :03:00.said it should serve The Government says it will seek

:03:01. > :03:07.to overturn a demand by the House of Lords that EU citizens living

:03:08. > :03:10.in the UK should be allowed to stay Peers defied ministers last night

:03:11. > :03:16.when they voted by a large margin But the Prime Minister, Theresa May,

:03:17. > :03:22.has said that should be negotiated alongside a deal for British

:03:23. > :03:24.citizens living in the EU. The Bill will return

:03:25. > :03:31.to the Commons later this month. Nearly two-thirds of England's

:03:32. > :03:32.hospitals have been rated as inadequate or needing improvement

:03:33. > :03:35.in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

:03:36. > :03:41.Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

:03:42. > :03:47.to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged

:03:48. > :03:50.to be good or outstanding The Department of Health has

:03:51. > :03:56.welcomed the inspections, saying they form a key part

:03:57. > :03:58.of its plan to make the health service the safest and most

:03:59. > :04:07.transparent in the world. The North Korean foreign ministry

:04:08. > :04:09.has questioned the Malaysian government's account

:04:10. > :04:11.of the death of Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother of

:04:12. > :04:12.North Korea's leader, who was killed at Kuala Lumpur

:04:13. > :04:18.airport two weeks ago. In a statement it described

:04:19. > :04:20.Malaysia's account, that said he had been poisoned with VX nerve agent,

:04:21. > :04:24.as the height of absurdity. The North Korean official said

:04:25. > :04:26.that there was a strong indication that the cause of his death

:04:27. > :04:30.was a heart attack. Voting is under way

:04:31. > :04:32.in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections for the second time

:04:33. > :04:35.in ten months. The election was triggered

:04:36. > :04:37.after the power-sharing government 90 members will be elected,

:04:38. > :04:43.18 fewer than previously. Polling closes at 10

:04:44. > :05:08.o'clock tonight. Senior opponents of President Trump

:05:09. > :05:20.are calling for his newly appointed The BBC News Channel has won

:05:21. > :05:23.the Royal Television Society TV Journalism Award for News Channel

:05:24. > :05:25.of the Year. The jury recognised the News Channel

:05:26. > :05:28.for its coverage of stories including the EU Referendum,

:05:29. > :05:29.Donald Trump's election, the Nice terror attack,

:05:30. > :05:32.Jo Cox's murder and the inquests That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:33. > :05:35.News, more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us

:05:36. > :05:37.throughout the morning, If you text, you'll be charged

:05:38. > :05:43.at the standard network rate. lots of people getting in touch

:05:44. > :05:47.about the new report into police forces. One message says I can

:05:48. > :05:51.empathise, by the time I retired I was shattered after the workload

:05:52. > :05:54.kept increasing. Jack has said the police are in crisis, I recently

:05:55. > :06:00.retired from the police, there are half the amount of police per capita

:06:01. > :06:03.than the right in other European countries. Protection is suffering

:06:04. > :06:08.because of this. Thanks for highlighting this. We will be

:06:09. > :06:11.talking to the lead inspector who has made those comments about

:06:12. > :06:13.raising a red flag because of concerns over the implications.

:06:14. > :06:22.British Cycling has acknowledged serious failings in its record

:06:23. > :06:25.keeping after being criticised by the woman in charge

:06:26. > :06:28.Nicole Sapstead told a committee of Mps that UK Anti-Doping's

:06:29. > :06:30.investigation into wrongdoing in the sport has been

:06:31. > :06:36.hampered by problems with medical record keeping.

:06:37. > :06:38.They've been trying to verify the contents of a mystery package

:06:39. > :06:45.delivered to Team Sky in France six years ago.

:06:46. > :06:52.What we are trying to establish in our enquiry is how does British

:06:53. > :06:56.cycling and Team Sky administer the anti-doping policies to make sure

:06:57. > :06:59.their riders and teams are clean. We have found out today that they

:07:00. > :07:01.don't. It is a damning indictment of the way things are being run in

:07:02. > :07:06.British cycling and at Team Sky. Heather Watson was knocked out

:07:07. > :07:08.by France's Kristina Mladenovic in the second round of

:07:09. > :07:11.the Mexican Open this morning. The match lasted three and a half

:07:12. > :07:16.hours before Mladenovic won Andy Murray is into

:07:17. > :07:19.the quarterfinals at the Dubai International,

:07:20. > :07:21.after a comfortable straight The world number one needed just

:07:22. > :07:25.an hour and 12 minutes to see off He'll face Germany's Philipp

:07:26. > :07:33.Kohlschreiber in the last eight. Dan Evans is out though

:07:34. > :07:36.after losing to Gael Monfils. The final day of the first

:07:37. > :07:38.Formula One preseason test The track has been drenched in water

:07:39. > :07:42.to simulate wet weather. Lewis Hamilton has described

:07:43. > :07:44.driving the new cars There won't be any thrills and

:07:45. > :07:48.spills for the Williams team though. They're sitting out today's sessions

:07:49. > :07:50.after their rookie driver Williams say they'll be ready

:07:51. > :08:04.for the second test next week. Big news in Spain last night,

:08:05. > :08:06.as Luis Enrique the Barcelona manager announced he'd be leaving

:08:07. > :08:09.the club at the end of the season, The former club captain

:08:10. > :08:21.has won eight trophies in his three seasons in charge -

:08:22. > :08:24.and it could be more. They lead the title race by a point

:08:25. > :08:26.after Real Madrid's draw Wales international

:08:27. > :08:33.Gareth Bale saw red for Real - Although he insisted

:08:34. > :08:36.he didn't deserve it. Manchester City are through to

:08:37. > :08:39.the last eight of the FA Cup after a comfortable win

:08:40. > :08:41.in their replay against That's despite going behind early

:08:42. > :08:45.on to this goal from Harry Bunn. City though were soon

:08:46. > :08:47.back in control, Sergio They'll visit Middlesbrough

:08:48. > :08:56.in the next round. Celtic are now 27

:08:57. > :08:58.points clear at the top Scott Sinclair and two

:08:59. > :09:01.Moussa Dembele goals helped them to a four nil win over bottom side

:09:02. > :09:04.Inverness. There were also wins for Rangers,

:09:05. > :09:08.Ross County and Partick Thistle. Finally staying with Celtic,

:09:09. > :09:11.and the club have paid tribute to Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell,

:09:12. > :09:13.who has died aged 73 The former defender Gemmell

:09:14. > :09:20.scored in the 2-1 victory against Inter Milan in 1967

:09:21. > :09:23.when Celtic became the first British Victims are being let down

:09:24. > :09:40.and suspects left untracked by some police forces in England and Wales

:09:41. > :09:43.according to a report out today. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

:09:44. > :09:45.of Constabulary found a third It said a small number were putting

:09:46. > :09:49.the public at unacceptable risk by rationing services

:09:50. > :09:55.as they struggle with cutbacks. For some police officers,

:09:56. > :09:57.the increase in workload has made Former detective Angelina Dawson

:09:58. > :10:01.told this programme her reasons This is all I ever wanted to do

:10:02. > :10:14.and I thought it was a career Officers are carrying sort of 20

:10:15. > :10:48.crimes or more, give or take. That is a minimum of 20 victims,

:10:49. > :10:52.a minimum of 20 suspects. I'd often wake up with

:10:53. > :11:05.headaches because I wasn't No matter how much you try to be

:11:06. > :11:11.organised at work and try and keep on top of everything

:11:12. > :11:13.that there was just It was just getting really

:11:14. > :11:23.stressful and I just found myself thinking,

:11:24. > :11:24."Actually, I don't think Joining me now is the report's

:11:25. > :11:28.author, Zoe Billingham. Tom Gash, who's from

:11:29. > :11:30.the Institute for Government. Sue Sim, former Chief Constable

:11:31. > :11:32.of Northumbria Police. Also Dr Alan Billings who's

:11:33. > :11:44.the Police and Crime Commissioner Thank you for joining us. Tell us

:11:45. > :11:50.more about the specific evidence you found of police forces downgrading

:11:51. > :11:55.crime, Zoe. To put this in context, two thirds are doing a good job.

:11:56. > :11:59.What we said about the one third who is on occasions they are rationing

:12:00. > :12:06.police services. Really by stealth. It isn't by grand design. We found

:12:07. > :12:10.instances of in control rooms and emergency calls coming in, response

:12:11. > :12:14.officers not being available and may be tied up in other jobs. Slowly

:12:15. > :12:22.that call which was originally a high risk call is then, well, we

:12:23. > :12:28.will go in an hour, then longer than that, 24 hour 's. What crimes are

:12:29. > :12:34.being downgraded? It could be any sort. We spent a lot of time in

:12:35. > :12:39.control rooms. We looked into the pot of unallocated jobs, if you

:12:40. > :12:43.like. There were cases involving victims of domestic abuse, cases

:12:44. > :12:48.involving children. I have to stress, this is a small minority of

:12:49. > :12:53.forces at the moment. We are raising a warning flag. We don't want to see

:12:54. > :12:59.these practices creep any further. We appreciate most are doing a good

:13:00. > :13:03.job. One example given was a uniformed officer carrying out a

:13:04. > :13:07.rape investigation. People just carrying out the sorts of

:13:08. > :13:11.investigations which they are not trained for. That is linked to the

:13:12. > :13:15.issue we have said is a national crisis, which is the lack of

:13:16. > :13:22.detectives across England and Wales. We just heard from Angelini --

:13:23. > :13:26.Angelina about her experience. We speak to detectives dealing with

:13:27. > :13:32.complex crime, more straightforward crime, and they tell us their jobs

:13:33. > :13:35.are hard. They have high caseloads. I have had tears in these rooms with

:13:36. > :13:46.people who see some of the nasty as things. The ravages of the depraved

:13:47. > :13:51.he -- depravity of people. The pressure of the workload is causing

:13:52. > :13:56.people to leave the service. People we don't want to see leaving the

:13:57. > :14:00.service. We have said there is this national crisis in terms of the

:14:01. > :14:03.shortage of detectives. The police service needs to get to grips with

:14:04. > :14:07.that. He needs to understand why people are leaving. There are many

:14:08. > :14:10.different reasons why people are leaving or not wanting to become

:14:11. > :14:15.detectives. There needs to be a national plan to address this. How

:14:16. > :14:19.do you think people who are doing bad things will look at this? The

:14:20. > :14:24.public need to understand the context of our message. I will go

:14:25. > :14:28.back to our core message. Two thirds of police forces are doing a really

:14:29. > :14:31.good job for the public. And even that third where we are seeing

:14:32. > :14:36.problems, they are still doing some things very well. The problems you

:14:37. > :14:42.have highlighted, it sounds like people are getting away with crime.

:14:43. > :14:45.When this is put out there it sends a message, well, certain crimes

:14:46. > :14:50.going to be taken that seriously, I can get away with it. You are right.

:14:51. > :14:55.And moving on to another area, how domestic abuse victims are dealt

:14:56. > :14:58.with. We have seen in some forces that police are discontinuing

:14:59. > :15:03.investigation early on on the grounds that the victim does not

:15:04. > :15:07.support police action. We know the complexities about a woman coming

:15:08. > :15:10.forward to the police. We want to see forces supporting victims. We

:15:11. > :15:14.don't want to see the position of one falls in the country where if

:15:15. > :15:18.you are a perpetrator of domestic abuse you have a 75% chance of not

:15:19. > :15:25.being arrested for that crime. Whereas if you are a perpetrator in

:15:26. > :15:30.another force you have a 75% chance of being arrested. It makes no

:15:31. > :15:34.sense. It is not about money. Those forces are struggling in some of

:15:35. > :15:38.those areas we have identified, they forces which are not subject to

:15:39. > :15:43.severe financial crises like other forces. It is a complicated picture.

:15:44. > :15:50.They're all sorts of things we are saying that need be put right. --

:15:51. > :15:54.there are. The police service isn't in crisis. It isn't in meltdown.

:15:55. > :15:59.There is a national crisis around detectives. But things can get

:16:00. > :16:03.better. Does it stop with the constables? Everybody doing a job,

:16:04. > :16:08.they know what is right, what is wrong, how is this?

:16:09. > :16:15.Chief constables are the leaders of the organisations, it is their

:16:16. > :16:18.responsibilities to work out, with the police and crime commission, the

:16:19. > :16:21.priorities. It is their job to make sure they have sufficient resources

:16:22. > :16:25.to meet those priorities, and if there is a stretch in the system,

:16:26. > :16:32.let's not see that and be shuffled under the carpet, the demand be

:16:33. > :16:37.suppressed, let's not act as if it is a problem, let's have the debate

:16:38. > :16:41.in public. Let's raise these issues. If the police service says it cannot

:16:42. > :16:47.do certain things, at least the debate should be informed in public

:16:48. > :16:51.and by the public. Sue, you resigned in 2015 after five years in charge,

:16:52. > :16:58.were these pressures that you were experiencing, were you experiencing

:16:59. > :17:03.those when you were in charge? Actually, firstly, let me make it

:17:04. > :17:13.clear I retired in 2015, not resigned! Sorry. No, one of my big

:17:14. > :17:20.issues with policing per se, I agree with the majority of Zoe's report.

:17:21. > :17:24.But, to me, the issue is chief constables still act in splendid

:17:25. > :17:28.isolation, as indeed do government departments. The Home Office, the

:17:29. > :17:31.Department of Health, the local authorities, everybody works in

:17:32. > :17:37.splendid isolation. When you are looking at things like police

:17:38. > :17:45.officers not being able to attend the most urgent of calls and that,

:17:46. > :17:47.to me, is absolutely appalling as a former Chief Constable, it's a

:17:48. > :17:51.dreadful situation which should not be able to continue but if what we

:17:52. > :17:55.are saying is police officers should be getting to the most urgent of

:17:56. > :18:01.causing the appropriate time, then one of the things we should be

:18:02. > :18:06.looking at is how do you manage the lesser calls? They are still very

:18:07. > :18:11.important to the public. How would you categorise what is a lesser

:18:12. > :18:17.call? Obviously, anything bad that happens to any victim feels like

:18:18. > :18:21.something is absolutely worth investigating, plus it is about the

:18:22. > :18:26.messaging. If police let the public know, that the people doing bad

:18:27. > :18:29.things know that certain things were be treated seriously, it sends a

:18:30. > :18:33.powerful message in that direction? It's not about not taking them

:18:34. > :18:40.seriously but, for example, a number of years ago, when I first took over

:18:41. > :18:43.as temporary Chief Constable in Northumbria, we ran a project

:18:44. > :18:46.through the Home Office, together with our partners in the local

:18:47. > :18:53.authorities, which actually allowed us to deal with less urgent calls

:18:54. > :18:57.across all of the appropriate agencies, and so we made sure that

:18:58. > :19:01.calls that should have been dealt with by police were dealt with by

:19:02. > :19:05.police, and those that should have been dealt with by local authorities

:19:06. > :19:11.were done so. It was classified as a great success by all of the local

:19:12. > :19:14.authorities and by Northumbria Police across the Northumbria area.

:19:15. > :19:20.But we could not come to any consensus about how funding should

:19:21. > :19:25.be delivered, to deliver the project. OK, sorry to interrupt, I

:19:26. > :19:33.want to bring in the serving police and crime commission in Yorkshire,

:19:34. > :19:37.where you surprised by the overall picture or is this your experience?

:19:38. > :19:44.I'm not surprised at all, it paints a stark picture, and this is a red

:19:45. > :19:48.flag, a warning sign, that things are potentially heading in not a

:19:49. > :19:53.good direction. Two things are going on. One is that demand is

:19:54. > :19:58.increasing, and the other is that resources are getting fewer, there

:19:59. > :20:02.are fewer officers and police and community support officers

:20:03. > :20:07.available. Why is demand increasing? In part because the police service

:20:08. > :20:18.is becoming the default surface medical service for other public

:20:19. > :20:25.bodies. As they reduce, do less, they do more as a 365 days per year

:20:26. > :20:29.service, to pick up. Is it OK to downgrade a car crime and not treat

:20:30. > :20:34.it as priority? Of course not but under those pressures, that is what

:20:35. > :20:38.will happen and the report... Is it happening in your area? I hope not,

:20:39. > :20:42.one of the things the report does for every police force area is

:20:43. > :20:48.identify those things which need attention. As all police and crime

:20:49. > :20:52.commission is, I will be going through the report as it applies to

:20:53. > :20:59.us to see what we can do. I'd take the point that we can do more with

:21:00. > :21:03.local authorities operating locally, but they are also squeezed. We have

:21:04. > :21:09.another guest I would like to bring in, Tom, you talk about crime policy

:21:10. > :21:13.committee wrote a book and you think there should be a new approach to

:21:14. > :21:17.policing? The important thing happening that we need to recognise

:21:18. > :21:22.at the moment, police are responding to what they are told to do. What is

:21:23. > :21:27.most urgent. That is people who call up and the pressure that comes from

:21:28. > :21:33.HMIC to do more of this, more of that, and more of the other. When

:21:34. > :21:38.you have 14% less money and officers and 16% less money than 2010, it is

:21:39. > :21:42.nonsense to say you can do more of everything. You need to, obviously,

:21:43. > :21:46.be effective. Some are proving more effective than others in the forces,

:21:47. > :21:50.but you need to tackle demand and do things that reduce crime. Things

:21:51. > :21:54.that have been effective over the last 20 years have actually been to

:21:55. > :21:58.do with working with industry to improve car security, which has seen

:21:59. > :22:03.car crime reduce by about one sixth of the level to what it was 20 years

:22:04. > :22:07.ago, working with Internet providers to think about the same things for

:22:08. > :22:12.online fraud, and about how we work in local places to do with the risk

:22:13. > :22:17.of violence around alcohol. That makes sense in terms of long-term

:22:18. > :22:22.strategy, but right now, with police forces in the situation they are in,

:22:23. > :22:29.with calls coming in, how do you prioritise? It's a good question.

:22:30. > :22:35.The challenges I would imagine too few people are willing say what C

:22:36. > :22:41.said, we have two prioritise calls coming in. Everybody would say that

:22:42. > :22:45.they would hope that the caller is treated with utmost seriousness,

:22:46. > :22:48.nobody politically is going to say, can we do things differently and

:22:49. > :22:51.take a call from the public when their car has been stolen, and ask

:22:52. > :22:57.them whether they want us to come to the scene of the crime, or whether

:22:58. > :23:02.they would want us to put it into tracking data? Would that be an

:23:03. > :23:07.answer? I do not think so. There are simpler lances in a convex world of

:23:08. > :23:13.policing. I think Tom is right about prevention. We've seen one quarter

:23:14. > :23:15.of all forces deteriorate in their performance in neighbourhood

:23:16. > :23:19.policing. This is where police officers are in communities, getting

:23:20. > :23:23.ahead of crime and stopping it happening in the first place,

:23:24. > :23:27.nipping it in the bud and doing directed and targeted activity to

:23:28. > :23:30.keep people safe. People would tell you and they tell me they would

:23:31. > :23:34.rather not be a victim of crime in the first place, and police do a

:23:35. > :23:39.good response. There's that thing about bobbies on the beat, is that a

:23:40. > :23:44.priority? It's an interesting question. The model of policing in

:23:45. > :23:48.the 21st-century must be preventative at heart but also

:23:49. > :23:53.provided in a different way. In the report, we say the police service

:23:54. > :23:56.and the College of policing, the body which sets standards for

:23:57. > :24:01.policing, they need to determine those bits of neighbourhood policing

:24:02. > :24:06.which are important to stop crime happening in the first place. How do

:24:07. > :24:10.we adapted to meet 21st-century? Across the country, we see some

:24:11. > :24:16.forces do interesting things with PCSOs. Instead of them patrolling

:24:17. > :24:20.the streets, they are patrolling cyberspace so they are online and

:24:21. > :24:24.providing information to people. We do not know that is happening, so it

:24:25. > :24:34.is not the high profile thing people like. Exactly, it is a warning

:24:35. > :24:39.people about crime about being ripped off online or coria fraud,

:24:40. > :24:45.whatever it might be. Let's not go back to a bobby on every beat, but

:24:46. > :24:48.have police officers and PCSOs in communities, it is fundamental to

:24:49. > :24:51.solving this problem and stopping crime happening in the first place,

:24:52. > :24:57.addressing those issues that Alan talked about, about demand. It is

:24:58. > :25:02.fundamental to policing. Tom, you wanted to add? Yes, if you look at

:25:03. > :25:07.what policing has done, it has coped very well compared to other public

:25:08. > :25:11.services with the levels of cuts and constraints it had. The government

:25:12. > :25:15.should get credit for not cutting further in 2015. It was going to but

:25:16. > :25:19.decided against it. In prisons, they cut further. We saw the consequences

:25:20. > :25:23.in prisons. What the government needs to have this the right early

:25:24. > :25:26.warning systems and what we can be thankful for is the Inspectorate

:25:27. > :25:31.raised these issues before things got worse than they were. Every

:25:32. > :25:36.year, you have said they are managing well, but now is the time

:25:37. > :25:40.to raise the flag? We must emphasise that the reports show that more

:25:41. > :25:45.forces got better than got worse this year, which is an extraordinary

:25:46. > :25:49.achievement. It is a credit to the officers, at what cost? Some are

:25:50. > :25:54.going off sick, there are problems with morale. We must address it in

:25:55. > :25:57.terms of funding and in terms of priorities. We got any milk from a

:25:58. > :26:05.serving officer who wants to remain anonymous, they are so exhausted but

:26:06. > :26:11.keen to write a few lines to add their voice -- and e-mail. In 2007 I

:26:12. > :26:14.became a detective constable. At first, it was excitable,

:26:15. > :26:18.unpredictable, for filling and enjoyable, the teams were great to

:26:19. > :26:24.work in but it is not unusual for the main detectives to carry over 20

:26:25. > :26:29.crimes. At my lowest point I was on 25. If you speak to any detective in

:26:30. > :26:33.the Met, they would say a figure of 18-20 max is the maximum anyone can

:26:34. > :26:42.investigate realistically. I told my line manager at the time the

:26:43. > :26:49.concerns with dealing with this many but he was not interested. One of

:26:50. > :26:53.the many things, to be clear, police officers across the UK are the best

:26:54. > :26:58.anywhere in the world. But, it is still incumbent on Chief constables

:26:59. > :27:02.and the College of policing, to look at our

:27:03. > :27:07.outdated procedures and the huge amount of bureaucracy that the

:27:08. > :27:16.stores are still telling me they carrying. -- that officers. You talk

:27:17. > :27:21.about the length of time detectives take to be trained, do we actually

:27:22. > :27:26.need to do that? Can we do things differently? There are all sorts of

:27:27. > :27:32.different educational ways that we can teach investigative procedures,

:27:33. > :27:37.policing needs to move out of the 20th century ideals and into the

:27:38. > :27:41.21st-century. I agree with what Tom was saying about prevention. I

:27:42. > :27:45.absolutely agree that neighbourhood policing is an essential tool, but

:27:46. > :27:52.Chief constables still have the responsibility to look at cutting

:27:53. > :27:57.unnecessary bureaucracy and improving our processes and

:27:58. > :28:03.procedures. Thank you to all of you. A quick comment from the Minister

:28:04. > :28:07.for policing, he says the government has protected police funding through

:28:08. > :28:10.2015 spending reviews, as you mentioned, and there is no excuse

:28:11. > :28:17.for any force who fail to deliver on their obligations, those identified

:28:18. > :28:20.as requiring improvements must take the HMIC findings seriously, and I

:28:21. > :28:22.expect to see rapid improvements. Thank you to all of you.

:28:23. > :28:31.Problems for the government Brexit bell in the House of Lords last

:28:32. > :28:35.night. Norman Smith, there's problems in the form of defeat?

:28:36. > :28:40.Many people would take the view that the House of Lords is a sleepy old

:28:41. > :28:43.chamber, anything but, last night, the peers inflicted a crushing

:28:44. > :28:49.defeat on Theresa May. Anyone inside and outside of the government was

:28:50. > :28:53.surprised by the ferocity of the defeat but the question is, whether

:28:54. > :29:00.it has emboldened MPs in the Commons to do exactly the same and whether

:29:01. > :29:06.it encourages the peers here to inflict more defeats on Theresa May

:29:07. > :29:11.surrounding Brexit. Let's have a listen to some of the exchanges from

:29:12. > :29:17.last night. Take the high moral ground. Give reassurance to the

:29:18. > :29:23.millions who have made their home here in the expectation that they

:29:24. > :29:29.can continue to live and work here. These people need to know now, not

:29:30. > :29:34.in two years or 12 months, they simply cannot put their lives on

:29:35. > :29:40.hold. We need them to stay, as much, if not more, than they wish to do

:29:41. > :29:47.so. So, the negotiating position amongst the same. Do as we wish, or

:29:48. > :29:54.we will shoot our own foot off. I completely repudiates your idea that

:29:55. > :29:59.I should treat any fellow human being as a bargaining counter or

:30:00. > :30:02.anything of the kind. Why is anybody here today so excited about an

:30:03. > :30:09.amendment? Which looks after the foreigners and not the British. The

:30:10. > :30:14.best way of helping them is to pass this legislation as quickly as

:30:15. > :30:19.possible, to activate Article 50, and then to negotiate to give these

:30:20. > :30:24.people the rights they deserve to stay in our country. So, what

:30:25. > :30:28.happens next? Theresa May will try to overturn last night's defeat in

:30:29. > :30:33.the House of Commons and the question is, whether there are

:30:34. > :30:39.enough Tory MPs to rebel and walked. I have to say, talking to people

:30:40. > :30:44.this morning, my sense is that there is a rebellion which will be on the

:30:45. > :30:50.small side, suggesting Theresa May will probably be able to overcome

:30:51. > :30:53.last night's reverse, so she is still on course to trigger Article

:30:54. > :30:59.50, perhaps by mid-March. A lot of people possibly pointing to

:31:00. > :31:02.Wednesday, March 15th. OK, Norman, thank you.

:31:03. > :31:04.The Conservative peer, and former pensions minister,

:31:05. > :31:07.Baroness Altman voted against the government.

:31:08. > :31:16.She joins me now. If I can put Norman's comment to you. He said why

:31:17. > :31:24.is everybody so bothered about an amendment which looks after the

:31:25. > :31:29.foreigners and not the British? I fundamentally disagree with that

:31:30. > :31:32.viewpoint. In fact, what the amendment would do, or even better

:31:33. > :31:36.what the government itself could do without needing any amendments to

:31:37. > :31:41.the bill, it could just unilaterally guaranteed the right of the Citizens

:31:42. > :31:47.to stay, is helping British citizens who are in the EU to have a better

:31:48. > :31:53.chance of a quick resolution of their uncertainty. And what we are

:31:54. > :31:56.suggesting here is that the government take back control of the

:31:57. > :32:03.moral high ground and guarantee the rights of citizens here that need to

:32:04. > :32:07.stay, that we need, and when I was listening to the debate last night,

:32:08. > :32:14.and I hadn't made up my mind what I was going to do before I sat down

:32:15. > :32:21.yesterday, it became obvious to me that we are being illogical and

:32:22. > :32:26.immoral in refusing to unilaterally guarantee the rights of those people

:32:27. > :32:31.who are already here, who came here in good faith, who are part of our

:32:32. > :32:35.communities, part of our health service. Who are doing all sorts of

:32:36. > :32:40.wonderful work in our country. Just doing the decent thing which British

:32:41. > :32:44.people will normally do. And saying straightaway that we are not going

:32:45. > :32:49.to use them as negotiating collateral. We are going to go into

:32:50. > :32:53.these very difficult negotiations with our European partners, having

:32:54. > :32:58.shown the goodwill, having taken the moral high ground, and then just

:32:59. > :33:05.move on to the much, much more difficult and stressful negotiations

:33:06. > :33:09.from a position of strength. You say from a position of strength. The

:33:10. > :33:12.government's view is, you talk about a moral high ground, but the

:33:13. > :33:17.government says without a bargaining chip what would guarantee reciprocal

:33:18. > :33:24.rights for British citizens in the EU? Well, what became apparent in

:33:25. > :33:30.the debate last night was two things. One, the groups representing

:33:31. > :33:35.British people who live in the EU have asked the government to

:33:36. > :33:39.unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens here, because they

:33:40. > :33:42.believe that will force the hand of the EU. And they will just have to

:33:43. > :33:47.do this much more quickly rather than making it part of the

:33:48. > :33:52.negotiation. But there is no guarantee on that. That requires

:33:53. > :33:57.other people to do the right thing, as well. The logic of that argument

:33:58. > :34:00.is that we are not going to guarantee the rights of the EU

:34:01. > :34:09.citizens here. Morally that is utterly wrong. If we still insist on

:34:10. > :34:13.making them negotiating, bargaining chips, whatever you want to call

:34:14. > :34:18.them, we are not going to do the right thing. As Lord Lawson himself

:34:19. > :34:20.said, in the end the British Parliament isn't going to vote to

:34:21. > :34:26.throw these people out. So why are we putting them through this

:34:27. > :34:31.distress and misery? Why are we not saying we are going to do the right

:34:32. > :34:35.thing? Two wrongs never make a right. And it has got to be

:34:36. > :34:44.appropriate for Britain to show that we have decided to leave the EU but

:34:45. > :34:50.the Boat Leaves campaign said that the Citizens here will not be

:34:51. > :34:58.affected. -- Vote Leave. Right now we guarantee... It doesn't need to

:34:59. > :35:02.delay article 50 triggering, it doesn't need to be part of this

:35:03. > :35:06.whole thing. If it comes back to the House of Lords, some peers have

:35:07. > :35:09.indicated that they wouldn't vote against the government again in

:35:10. > :35:14.order not to frustrate the process so that Article 50 could still be

:35:15. > :35:20.triggered on the 15th of March, what would your approach be, would you

:35:21. > :35:25.vote against again? What the House of Lords has done yesterday is what

:35:26. > :35:29.it is supposed to do, which is sent back something to the Commons to

:35:30. > :35:34.think again if we believe that a decision has been made that needs

:35:35. > :35:39.more careful consideration. That is what we have done. What I hope is

:35:40. > :35:47.that the government itself will come forward with its commitment to these

:35:48. > :35:51.people. But if it doesn't... If that doesn't happen, if it does come back

:35:52. > :35:55.to the House of Lords, you are facing the same choice again, but

:35:56. > :35:59.come you know, would you go down the route of potentially thwarting the

:36:00. > :36:04.government triggering article 50, or would you give the government your

:36:05. > :36:09.vote? Ultimately the final decision rests with the elected house, the

:36:10. > :36:13.House of Commons, I respect that. I think the role of the House of Lords

:36:14. > :36:18.is to ask the government to think again and that's what we've done.

:36:19. > :36:20.Thank you very much for your time. Let's catch up with all of the news

:36:21. > :36:31.with Rebecca. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

:36:32. > :36:33.of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

:36:34. > :36:35.of the potentially perilous state of the service in England and Wales.

:36:36. > :36:38.It found a third of forces needed improvement while a small number

:36:39. > :36:40.were putting the public at unacceptable risk

:36:41. > :36:42.by rationing services. Some chief constables say the report

:36:43. > :36:45.is unfair because they have limited resources but the report's author

:36:46. > :36:47.said it should serve Nearly two-thirds of England's

:36:48. > :36:50.hospitals have been rated as inadequate or needing improvement

:36:51. > :36:52.in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

:36:53. > :36:56.Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

:36:57. > :37:01.to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged

:37:02. > :37:04.to be good or outstanding The Department of Health has

:37:05. > :37:09.welcomed the inspections, saying they form a key part

:37:10. > :37:12.of its plan to make the health service the safest and most

:37:13. > :37:26.transparent in the world. A former pensions minister has told

:37:27. > :37:29.this programme that the government should take back control of the

:37:30. > :37:34.moral high ground and guarantee now writes for EU citizens living in the

:37:35. > :37:38.UK after Brexit. Peers defeated the government last night over the

:37:39. > :37:42.issue. Baroness Altman told us ministers should do the right thing

:37:43. > :37:46.now. But Theresa May says the right of EU citizens in the UK will be

:37:47. > :37:50.negotiated after article 50 is triggered. The bill will return to

:37:51. > :37:52.the House of Commons later this month.

:37:53. > :37:54.The North Korean foreign ministry has questioned the Malaysian

:37:55. > :37:56.government's account of the death of Kim Jong-nam,

:37:57. > :37:57.the half-brother of North Korea's leader,

:37:58. > :38:01.who was killed at Kuala Lumpur airport two weeks ago.

:38:02. > :38:03.In a statement it described Malaysia's account, that said he had

:38:04. > :38:06.been poisoned with VX nerve agent, as the height of absurdity.

:38:07. > :38:09.The North Korean official said that there was a strong indication

:38:10. > :38:11.that the cause of his death was a heart attack.

:38:12. > :38:13.Voting is under way in the Northern Ireland Assembly

:38:14. > :38:15.elections for the second time in ten months.

:38:16. > :38:17.The election was triggered after the power-sharing government

:38:18. > :38:20.90 members will be elected, 18 fewer than previously.

:38:21. > :38:27.Polling closes at 10 o'clock tonight.

:38:28. > :38:35.The BBC News Channel has won the TV journalism award for news channel of

:38:36. > :38:39.the year. The jury recognised the news channel for its coverage

:38:40. > :38:49.including the EU referendum, Donald Trump's election, the Nice terror

:38:50. > :38:51.attack, Jo Cox's murder, and the coverage of the Hillsborough

:38:52. > :38:57.disaster. That's a summary of the latest

:38:58. > :38:59.BBC News, more later. British Cycling has acknowledged

:39:00. > :39:05.serious failings in its record keeping after being criticised

:39:06. > :39:07.by the woman in charge Nicole Sapstead told a committee

:39:08. > :39:10.of Mps that UK Anti-Doping's investigation into wrongdoing

:39:11. > :39:12.in the sport has been hampered by problems

:39:13. > :39:21.with medical record keeping. Andy Murray is into the

:39:22. > :39:26.quarterfinals of the Dubai International after a comfortable

:39:27. > :39:29.straight sets victory over Garcia-Lopez yesterday. He will play

:39:30. > :39:33.Philipp Kohlschreiber next. Dan Evans is out. Heather Watson was

:39:34. > :39:47.also beaten in the second round of the Mexico Open.

:39:48. > :39:50.Manchester City are through to the last eight of the FA Cup

:39:51. > :39:52.after a comfortable win in their replay against

:39:53. > :39:55.That's despite going behind early on to this goal from Harry Bunn.

:39:56. > :39:57.City though were soon back in control, Sergio

:39:58. > :40:01.They'll visit Middlesbrough in the next round.

:40:02. > :40:03.Celtic are now 27 points clear at the top

:40:04. > :40:07.Scott Sinclair and two Moussa Dembele goals helped them

:40:08. > :40:09.to a four nil win over bottom side Inverness.

:40:10. > :40:12.There were also wins for Rangers, Ross County and Partick Thistle.

:40:13. > :40:15.Finally staying with Celtic, and the club have paid tribute

:40:16. > :40:18.to Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell, who has died aged 73

:40:19. > :40:21.The former defender Gemmell scored in the 2-1 victory

:40:22. > :40:23.against Inter Milan in 1967 when Celtic became the first British

:40:24. > :40:40.Some more of your comments to bring you on the police story, the

:40:41. > :40:45.restrictions on what police can do because of constraints on resources.

:40:46. > :40:49.An anonymous e-mail says I'm a serving officer in the West Midlands

:40:50. > :40:53.Police and have direct experience where domestic violence incidents

:40:54. > :40:57.which need to be attended within an hour sometimes don't get a response

:40:58. > :41:00.for over six hours. We are supposed to have 1100 officers on response

:41:01. > :41:07.but currently we only have 800, not enough. Many are on long-term sick

:41:08. > :41:10.due to pressures. Broken. An e-mail from Bob, my wife worked

:41:11. > :41:14.as a civilian support Officer, she did all of the mundane jobs

:41:15. > :41:18.mentioned in your report allowing detectives to detect. Our job was

:41:19. > :41:23.done away with as a saving leaving officers to photocopy all on top of

:41:24. > :41:28.their day job. Cost effectiveness is not thought through.

:41:29. > :41:37.Mavis says I have a first-hand experience of this as a victim.

:41:38. > :41:42.Youths were throwing stones at my house. I had to hide in my garden

:41:43. > :41:45.shed whilst waiting for a response. The youngsters were left to do what

:41:46. > :41:58.they want, the police never turned up. Keep those comments coming.

:41:59. > :42:01.an international conference to support women's health services

:42:02. > :42:08.Belgium is hosting an international conference to help support women's

:42:09. > :42:10.health services in developing countries that provide

:42:11. > :42:13.It's an attempt to make up for a shortfall caused

:42:14. > :42:16.by President Trump's decision to ban foreign aid being used

:42:17. > :42:19.The announcement last month is more far reaching than previous

:42:20. > :42:21.restrictions on non-governmental organisations, because it

:42:22. > :42:22.includes those providing information about abortion,

:42:23. > :42:25.and could put at risk maternal health services and HIV AIDS groups.

:42:26. > :42:29.a nation that depends heavily on international aid.

:42:30. > :42:30.Our correspondent, Naomi Grimley, is in Brussels for us.

:42:31. > :42:34.Over to you. You may remember the picture of Trump 's signing into law

:42:35. > :42:37.that executive order on the global gag rule. Because it involved him

:42:38. > :42:41.sitting at a desk with several men behind him. It caused a lot of

:42:42. > :42:44.controversy on social media. Today a load of European countries and

:42:45. > :42:48.Canada which is also attending are trying to fill the shortfall in the

:42:49. > :42:56.funding left by that global gag rule. To talk more about this I have

:42:57. > :43:02.with me Micah. Thanks for joining us. Can you explain what is at stake

:43:03. > :43:04.because of this new US policy. Women's health is at stake and

:43:05. > :43:14.women's choice in reproductive choices. This global gag rule means

:43:15. > :43:21.that organisations like ours will no longer receive funding from the US.

:43:22. > :43:25.For us, about 1.5 million women come every year, will no longer be able

:43:26. > :43:29.to access family planning. The impact of that on their lives and

:43:30. > :43:33.health is significant. There is a worry that this time around it goes

:43:34. > :43:38.further than other Republican administrations have done before.

:43:39. > :43:42.There is a worry to that, indeed. We are still finding out what exactly

:43:43. > :43:48.the parameters will be of the Mexico City policy with the global gag

:43:49. > :43:53.rule. We fear other organisations will also have to sign up to it,

:43:54. > :43:59.which means that abortion services, which are very necessary for women

:44:00. > :44:03.worldwide and are illegal in many countries, organisations can't talk

:44:04. > :44:13.about it any more, and cannot even direct women to an abortion

:44:14. > :44:18.provider, or cancel women -- or counsel a woman about it. Is this

:44:19. > :44:22.just another protest against Trump and what he stands for? I don't

:44:23. > :44:28.think so. The Europeans have worked hard on women's rights and women's

:44:29. > :44:31.health over decades of development. So many advances have been made over

:44:32. > :44:38.the last couple of years and even before that. To see this law being

:44:39. > :44:42.signed in again, we know that things will go back. Women will lack

:44:43. > :44:46.choice. I think people are genuinely concerned about the progress is that

:44:47. > :44:51.have been made. And this is not political, this is about women's

:44:52. > :44:57.health. Let's keep it at that. There is a gap between US values,

:44:58. > :45:01.personified by the Administration and European values, where does the

:45:02. > :45:06.country like the UK stand? Are they coming along to this conference? The

:45:07. > :45:12.UK is here. The UK has been a great champion in developing aid around

:45:13. > :45:18.the world and family planning. It isn't as easy to say that there is a

:45:19. > :45:22.divide between US and Europe. A lot of support is coming from the US, as

:45:23. > :45:25.well, from different organisations in the US. It is not simply against

:45:26. > :45:33.the Trump administration. Thanks very much. Well, in an hour we are

:45:34. > :45:37.going to hear about the different pledges from different countries. We

:45:38. > :45:41.will hear whether the UK is going to put in some money to help make up

:45:42. > :45:45.for the money withdrawn by the US Administration.

:45:46. > :45:48.Refugees who want to learn English are facing long waits for lessons,

:45:49. > :45:49.according to a report by the campaign group

:45:50. > :45:53.It says it's isolating refugees and making it more difficult

:45:54. > :45:58.The charity wants the government to fund lessons for all 20,000

:45:59. > :46:01.refugees living here but with public finances under pressure, it's not

:46:02. > :46:07.Let's talk now to Nour Albaarini, a 24-year-old Syrian refugee

:46:08. > :46:15.He had access to English classes immediately and is now studying

:46:16. > :46:22.Amal Akasha is in Leeds and helps Sudanese refugees who are waiting

:46:23. > :46:27.Steven Hale is the CEO of Refugee action who published this report

:46:28. > :46:30.and is calling on the Government to fund classes for all to the tune

:46:31. > :46:36.And Jessica Walker from English for Action a charity

:46:37. > :46:40.that runs English language classes for refugees.

:46:41. > :46:49.Thank you all very much for joining us. You came here, not speaking a

:46:50. > :46:53.word of English... At all! You were given classes. What is your view on

:46:54. > :46:58.the importance of learning a language once you are in a country?

:46:59. > :47:03.Basically, the language is the most important thing here, for everyone,

:47:04. > :47:09.for every refugee here in England and the UK, because it is the

:47:10. > :47:14.country's language. So, how they can integrate in this country, how they

:47:15. > :47:19.can do whatever they want, without speaking English, it's the most

:47:20. > :47:25.important thing for them, to speak English. And, when you came here,

:47:26. > :47:29.did you feel a personal responsibility to learn English?

:47:30. > :47:33.Yes, because when I came here, I came with my dreams. How could I

:47:34. > :47:42.achieve those without speaking English? The first thing I did was

:47:43. > :47:47.made a plan for myself to start studying English with classes,

:47:48. > :47:53.teaching myself English. At home. You had government funded classes to

:47:54. > :48:01.teach you? Yes. Steven, refugee Action says that all classes should

:48:02. > :48:07.be paid for, it would cost ?42 million, why should the government

:48:08. > :48:11.pay for that? One could say that every person who has fled war and

:48:12. > :48:14.persecution needs the opportunity to rebuild their lives. I would say

:48:15. > :48:18.that is important and in itself, that should be a sufficient reason

:48:19. > :48:22.for them to utilise their talents, because we should be a country that

:48:23. > :48:28.gives people those opportunities. But also, there is real

:48:29. > :48:32.self-interest for the UK, if we do not give people that opportunity to

:48:33. > :48:35.learn English they cannot integrate and have less potential of finding

:48:36. > :48:39.work. One of the things we found without will research, if somebody

:48:40. > :48:43.gets a job where they have a much better chance of doing so if they

:48:44. > :48:46.have learned English, in eight months, they have repaid, if they

:48:47. > :48:49.get the national average wage, they've repaid the cost of those

:48:50. > :48:54.lessons. If they haven't, they are less likely to find work. There are

:48:55. > :48:58.compelling economic reasons from the UK perspective to give people this

:48:59. > :49:03.opportunity to learn English. It is madness for people to be languishing

:49:04. > :49:06.without support and those skills. Jessica, you teach English to

:49:07. > :49:13.refugees, tell us about that work you do. Yes, I teaching British in

:49:14. > :49:18.communities in South London. I also teach English to EU migrants and

:49:19. > :49:24.people who come from Commonwealth countries... Who is paying for the

:49:25. > :49:28.lessons that you give? I work for a charity called English for Action.

:49:29. > :49:33.They are funded by foundations and trusts. No government money is

:49:34. > :49:39.involved in what you are doing? No. What is your perspective on the

:49:40. > :49:43.importance of people coming to this country and learning English for

:49:44. > :49:48.integration? It is absolutely crucial, all of my students say how

:49:49. > :49:53.much they find it so important. It is the thing that they care about

:49:54. > :49:59.the most. It is also a lot more than just learning English. Having a

:50:00. > :50:03.group where people can come to, regularly, sometimes the group is

:50:04. > :50:06.people from many different countries, so they are learning and

:50:07. > :50:13.it is a social element that really helps people feel confident and

:50:14. > :50:17.positive, living in this country. Amal, you were originally from Sudan

:50:18. > :50:25.and you help Sudanese refugees in the to learn English if they cannot

:50:26. > :50:31.get onto a funded course, why do you do that? I do it because when I've

:50:32. > :50:39.been here, in England, seven years ago, I tried classes to help myself,

:50:40. > :50:48.but I waited for two years without finding any classes and I started to

:50:49. > :50:57.teach myself. That is why, I think, we had to help someone from my

:50:58. > :51:04.community to be able to access these services, and confront isolation.

:51:05. > :51:08.That is why I've organised the Sudanese group. He said after two

:51:09. > :51:12.years he began to teach yourself. Tell us more about the imperative to

:51:13. > :51:19.learn a language for you, when you are living in a country and unable

:51:20. > :51:25.to speak the language? Actually, I studied English in Sudan, a long

:51:26. > :51:28.time ago. But I need to improve my writing and my English language

:51:29. > :51:36.which is why it is not that difficult for me but for many of

:51:37. > :51:40.them, it is like impossible. Steven, there are obviously, we are hearing,

:51:41. > :51:44.alternative ways of refugees in this country learning English without it

:51:45. > :51:48.being funded by the government. At a time when government budgets are

:51:49. > :51:53.under increasing pressure, wide EU... You said about the economic

:51:54. > :51:57.imperative of the government funding it but there are other ways? There

:51:58. > :52:02.are three things. It would cost the UK more if we do not give support to

:52:03. > :52:06.learn English. And we need to do the right thing for every person who

:52:07. > :52:12.reaches the UK, having fled war or persecution. Secondly, it is

:52:13. > :52:15.absolutely true that charities, volunteers in the community, can

:52:16. > :52:20.help people to learn English and refugees can play a role in that.

:52:21. > :52:24.But they need a foundation and for anyone to learn something, whether

:52:25. > :52:28.it is the guitar or a foreign-language, is professional

:52:29. > :52:32.tuition. Without that foundation, you are less likely to progress.

:52:33. > :52:38.Spoken English you may be able to acquire, but you may not be able to

:52:39. > :52:41.go to university, or go on and progress and succeed. You need

:52:42. > :52:44.professional tuition to be part of that. Finally, I would like to

:52:45. > :52:48.highlight what we have also published today as opinion polls,

:52:49. > :52:52.which show that just 3% of the public agree with the government 's

:52:53. > :52:56.approach that we are prioritising funding specifically for Syrian

:52:57. > :52:59.refugees, 61% of people in that opinion poll agree that we should be

:53:00. > :53:09.funding English classes for refugees. You came from Hommes, in

:53:10. > :53:13.Syria, as a refugee, what are your prospects living in this country,

:53:14. > :53:17.and being able to get the education you have, learning English, how do

:53:18. > :53:22.you see live now? Life now is better than what I had before. Four years,

:53:23. > :53:33.five years ago. It is better now. When I came here, I had to wait two

:53:34. > :53:39.months to get classes. I started with basic, then I studied myself,

:53:40. > :53:43.12 hours every day. To practice speaking and practice listening. I

:53:44. > :53:53.was just asking people on the street whatever came to mind. I was asking

:53:54. > :54:02.them to practice. Nothing more. I taught myself for 12 hours to do my

:54:03. > :54:11.exam, the exam I have to do to get to university. What do you want to

:54:12. > :54:15.do in the end? I want to finish my undergraduate, masters, and my

:54:16. > :54:20.Ph.D.. A difficult road! Good luck with it. Thank you for coming in and

:54:21. > :54:23.speaking to us. The Department for Education told us

:54:24. > :54:26.they were fully committed to equipping people with the English

:54:27. > :54:28.language skills they need to succeed and supported more than 130,000

:54:29. > :54:31.learners last year. It's been described

:54:32. > :54:33.as the biggest mistake And now the head of the Academy

:54:34. > :54:37.Awards says the two accountants responsible for muddling up the main

:54:38. > :54:44.award envelopes at Sunday's ceremony will 'never work

:54:45. > :54:55.on the show again.' I'm sorry, no. There's a mistake.

:54:56. > :55:03.Moonlight, you guys won best picture. This is not a joke. This is

:55:04. > :55:08.not a joke. I'm afraid they read the wrong thing. This is not a joke.

:55:09. > :55:13.Moonlight has won best picture. Moonlight. Best picture.

:55:14. > :55:26.You can't, it is a mistake described as the worst in the 89 years the

:55:27. > :55:29.Academy Awards have been going. And now the two people responsible for

:55:30. > :55:33.the envelopes, ironically, we were talking about it on the programme

:55:34. > :55:38.the day before it was all happening, but what a great job that was. Now

:55:39. > :55:42.they are paying the price for the mess up? Indeed, Martha Ruiz and

:55:43. > :55:45.Brian Cullinan were assigned the task of making sure that the right

:55:46. > :55:52.envelopes went to the right presenters. Basically, there were

:55:53. > :55:56.two identical sets of envelopes and there are pictures of the pair

:55:57. > :56:00.holding them on the red carpet in a sealed briefcase. Their job is to

:56:01. > :56:04.hand each set to whoever is presenting from whatever side of the

:56:05. > :56:08.stage they are coming from. It appears that Brian was a bit

:56:09. > :56:12.distracted, as people are reporting. He was treating a picture of Emma

:56:13. > :56:17.Stone as she was clutching her best actress Oscar. She had just come

:56:18. > :56:21.backstage. Now, more pictures have emerged today of the commotion

:56:22. > :56:27.backstage of her hugging someone, and Brian is fixed upon her, and

:56:28. > :56:31.everybody else is looking elsewhere. That is where the commission appears

:56:32. > :56:38.to have started. It seems it was a Twitter Miss focus

:56:39. > :56:43.that was going on! These two go, and in terms of other lessons, it's not

:56:44. > :56:48.been a bad thing for everyone watching. It has given us all a lot

:56:49. > :56:52.of entertainment! But they want to make sure it never happens again.

:56:53. > :56:55.Indeed, it has given us a lot of entertainment but it is not good

:56:56. > :56:59.news for the Oscars. During the nominations there was a blunder.

:57:00. > :57:04.They attributed Amy Adams as possibly being in the best category,

:57:05. > :57:07.that was not true. During the ceremony, they were talking about

:57:08. > :57:13.people who have passed away and used a picture of someone who was still

:57:14. > :57:19.living when they met someone else who was dead. Now this as well. It

:57:20. > :57:23.is great but this has all hit an all-time low for the numbers of

:57:24. > :57:26.people watching. I'm not sure they would want to court publicity

:57:27. > :57:28.surrounding this! But we will all be watching next year! Thank you very

:57:29. > :57:35.much. Let me bring you some more of your

:57:36. > :57:41.comments on policing. On Facebook, Matt is a serving uniform officer

:57:42. > :57:49.and in 2012, there were ten PCs and two sergeants policing about 50,000

:57:50. > :57:54.people in two towns. Lots of PCs have been asked to carry

:57:55. > :57:58.out tasks in risk assessing domestic abuse cases and other back-office

:57:59. > :58:04.functions, leading the front line exposed. Uniformed officers often

:58:05. > :58:07.deal with sex abuse cases, CAD have too much work.

:58:08. > :58:14.So many former officers getting into Hutch, thank you for all of your

:58:15. > :58:20.comments -- CID. Thank you for your company. Tomorrow there is coverage

:58:21. > :58:40.of athletics on BBC Two but we will be on the BBC News Channel.

:58:41. > :58:44.We're going to bond by finding out whether Paula was really