03/03/2017

:00:10. > :00:11.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:12. > :00:14.Our top story today - toddler Poppi Worthington

:00:15. > :00:16.was let down by detectives investigating her death according

:00:17. > :00:21.The investigator found evidence that there had been

:00:22. > :00:23.an unstructured investigation, essentially it was not

:00:24. > :00:30.Also today, we'll hear from a man who spent 24 years in one

:00:31. > :00:32.of Louisiana's most dangerous prisons after being wrongly

:00:33. > :00:40.convicted of killing a British tourist.

:00:41. > :00:43.The system didn't destroy me, didn't destroyed my kids.

:00:44. > :00:47.Because it's totally wrong, it's an injustice.

:00:48. > :00:52.Wheel of the full interview. -- we will have.

:00:53. > :00:53.Buying medicines online is a risky business according

:00:54. > :01:05.We'll hear how drugs are sometimes being sold without enough checks.

:01:06. > :01:12.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:01:13. > :01:14.The number of people on controversial zero hours

:01:15. > :01:17.contracts has reached a record high of 910,000.

:01:18. > :01:24.We would love to hear from you if you are on one or if -- or if you

:01:25. > :01:28.are an employer that uses them. Perhaps you would rather have a

:01:29. > :01:33.permanent job, perhaps the flexibility suits you. You can get

:01:34. > :01:34.in touch with us. Text will be charged at the standard network

:01:35. > :01:35.rate. The police watchdog has

:01:36. > :01:38.published a critical report into how the Cumbria force

:01:39. > :01:40.handled the death of 13-month-old She was found seriously

:01:41. > :01:47.injured at her home. The Independent Police Complaints

:01:48. > :01:48.Commission says officers failed to adequately investigate

:01:49. > :01:52.whether she had been abused. Its commissioner, Carl

:01:53. > :01:54.Gumsley, has described it The investigator found

:01:55. > :01:59.evidence that there had been an unstructured investigation,

:02:00. > :02:01.that essentially was We found concerns in relation

:02:02. > :02:10.to the way that the scene where Poppi had been was managed,

:02:11. > :02:14.concerns in relation to exhibits, and whether exhibits,

:02:15. > :02:16.or potential exhibits, had been Concerns as to how the entire

:02:17. > :02:22.investigation had been operated, and whether it had been placed

:02:23. > :02:25.on to a case management system, Concerns that it was run

:02:26. > :02:37.effectively through e-mail. Concerns that no investigative

:02:38. > :02:40.action seems to have been taken in relation to allegations that

:02:41. > :02:42.Poppi may have been abused, outside whether that actually caused

:02:43. > :02:50.or may have caused her death. Cumbria Police says it

:02:51. > :02:52.accepts the report's I'm very clear that the additional

:02:53. > :02:56.investigation into Poppi Worthington's death fell well short

:02:57. > :02:59.of what Poppi's family could have expected and, indeed,

:03:00. > :03:05.should have expected. I would like to give a heartfelt

:03:06. > :03:09.apology to Poppi's family for the inadequacies

:03:10. > :03:10.in Cumbria Constabulary's Our correspondent

:03:11. > :03:21.Sangita Myska is here. We have heard some of the headline

:03:22. > :03:28.conclusions, fill in a bit more detail about the report. It took the

:03:29. > :03:32.IPCC two years to investigate and reach these conclusions and as a

:03:33. > :03:37.reaching. We have heard some of the reaching. We have heard some of the

:03:38. > :03:42.outlined in that clip but others include crucially, to properly

:03:43. > :03:47.protect copy's home as a crime scene and as a result it meant the nappy

:03:48. > :03:48.she was wearing on the day she died went missing

:03:49. > :03:56.Home. This could be a crucial piece of evidence and it was a huge loss

:03:57. > :04:00.to the investigation and it could not be found. They went on to say

:04:01. > :04:04.that during the process of the investigation decisions about which

:04:05. > :04:08.police officers made decisions and why they were made and what the

:04:09. > :04:11.police policy was in the investigations were not noted down

:04:12. > :04:15.and as a result, Junior officers, and there were a number of them, but

:04:16. > :04:22.they were left out of the loop of the investigation. There were other

:04:23. > :04:28.criticisms during this report's conclusions and they were that abuse

:04:29. > :04:32.claims early on were not properly investigated and finally,

:04:33. > :04:38.importantly, that incorrect information was sent to the coroner.

:04:39. > :04:42.The figure has been pointed at the dad by the coroner but what has been

:04:43. > :04:48.done to investigate those claims? This has become a competitive

:04:49. > :04:51.situation. According to the report, there was enough information around

:04:52. > :04:58.to arrest Poppy's father ready much on the day that the police were

:04:59. > :05:02.called in. A family court did was ask in 2014, two years after her

:05:03. > :05:07.death, to go on a fact-finding mission and they concluded that Mr

:05:08. > :05:09.Worthington probably sexually Worthington probably sexually

:05:10. > :05:16.assaulted her before her death. I ought to say that he was arrested

:05:17. > :05:21.eight months after Poppi died but was released without charge and

:05:22. > :05:25.throughout Mr Worthington has vigorously denied any claims of

:05:26. > :05:28.wrongdoing against him. Thank you. Let's catch up with the latest news.

:05:29. > :05:31.Rebecca Jones is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:05:32. > :05:36.Theresa May will make it clear that keeping Scotland in the UK

:05:37. > :05:37.is a "personal priority" when she addresses the Scottish

:05:38. > :05:44.Conservative Party conference in Glasgow this morning.

:05:45. > :05:50.She has met Nicola Sturgeon several times since the Brexit boat. Mr Jin

:05:51. > :05:55.maintains she has a cast mandate to maintains she has a cast mandate to

:05:56. > :06:03.hold a second ballot -- Mrs Sturgeon maintains. But Mrs May has told the

:06:04. > :06:05.BBC that Scottish voters do not want another independence vote.

:06:06. > :06:07.I think, in 2014, the people of Scotland voted to stay

:06:08. > :06:12.It was described by the SNP as a "once in a generation" vote

:06:13. > :06:17.I don't think people want a referendum today.

:06:18. > :06:21.To me, politics is about people's lives.

:06:22. > :06:23.It's about delivering for people on the issues that

:06:24. > :06:25.really matter to them, on a day-to-day basis,

:06:26. > :06:27.and I can't help but feel that the SNP has tunnel

:06:28. > :06:32.Actually, I think what people want is for the SNP government to get

:06:33. > :06:34.on with dealing with the issues they want to see addressed,

:06:35. > :06:45.Our Scotland Correspondent, Lorna Gordon, is in Glasgow.

:06:46. > :06:53.How important is Mrs May's speech going to be? It is a very important

:06:54. > :06:58.speech to her supporters here in Glasgow later. There has been

:06:59. > :07:01.ramping up of the rhetoric surrounding independence over the

:07:02. > :07:05.last few weeks and in particular I think over the last few days.

:07:06. > :07:09.Interesting in that interview yesterday that she would not make

:07:10. > :07:14.clear if she would give permission for a second independence referendum

:07:15. > :07:18.to be called but she did say that the question was not whether there

:07:19. > :07:23.could be a second referendum or whether -- but whether there should

:07:24. > :07:27.be one of the cheating a twin track approach, addressing on the one hand

:07:28. > :07:31.as she sees it at this issue of independence and also what she sees

:07:32. > :07:34.as the problem in the way the SNP is governing here in Scotland. You

:07:35. > :07:40.heard her comments and I think they will be repeated later, a strong

:07:41. > :07:43.attack on the SNP's record in government on areas like health and

:07:44. > :07:47.education, and she will argue they should focus on their day job,

:07:48. > :07:51.saying they have a tunnel vision on the issue of independence. Of course

:07:52. > :07:55.all this has come about as a result of the Brexit boat and Nicola

:07:56. > :07:59.Sturgeon's government in Edinburgh says they are willing to seek

:08:00. > :08:05.compromise and consensus at every turn -- Brexit vote. But they are

:08:06. > :08:10.being met by a brick wall of Tory intransigence and if there is to be

:08:11. > :08:14.another referendum, the the fault lies with the Conservative

:08:15. > :08:19.government in London that is taking Scotland out of the EU against it

:08:20. > :08:22.will all stop Nicola Sturgeon has said she believes another referendum

:08:23. > :08:27.on independence is highly likely, indeed all but inevitable and

:08:28. > :08:30.increasingly the question here and the speculation here seems to be

:08:31. > :08:34.turning not to the question of whether there will be a second

:08:35. > :08:39.referendum but when Nicola Sturgeon might call for it and the

:08:40. > :08:41.speculation that it might happen within the next few weeks. Thank

:08:42. > :08:44.you. The US Attorney General is removing

:08:45. > :08:47.himself from an FBI investigation into claims Russia meddled

:08:48. > :08:49.in November's presidential election. Jeff Sessions has been under

:08:50. > :08:52.pressure to stand aside after it emerged he met the Russian

:08:53. > :08:54.ambassador during the President Trump insisted that

:08:55. > :09:05.Mr Sessions is an honest man but said he could have been more

:09:06. > :09:08.accurate when questioned about his Websites that sell prescription

:09:09. > :09:14.medicines can seem a tempting alternative to visiting a GP,

:09:15. > :09:16.especially if you're having problems getting a suitable

:09:17. > :09:18.doctor's appointment. But there's a warning

:09:19. > :09:19.these online services That's according to the health

:09:20. > :09:24.regulator in England, More than 40 companies offer online

:09:25. > :09:34.prescriptions in England, but today the CQC says they could be

:09:35. > :09:45.putting patients at risk. It suspended the registration

:09:46. > :09:47.of this online company back in December, partially as a result

:09:48. > :09:50.of a BBC investigation which looked The company said it has made many

:09:51. > :09:55.changes to its processes and systems, that will eventually

:09:56. > :09:57.satisfy the regulators. But the CQC is worried more widely

:09:58. > :10:04.about the safety of online services. They say there is a risk

:10:05. > :10:07.of people being prescribed unsuitable medication,

:10:08. > :10:08.the treatment causing complications to existing health conditions,

:10:09. > :10:12.and a lack of monitoring We have now looked at 11 providers,

:10:13. > :10:22.two of which have been published today, and we are quite shocked

:10:23. > :10:25.about what we've found. And indeed, in those other

:10:26. > :10:27.providers, we've also found some really serious problems,

:10:28. > :10:32.and those reports will be published For the first time, the CQC has

:10:33. > :10:40.published a clear set They must verify patients

:10:41. > :10:45.match their photo ID, They must get a comprehensive

:10:46. > :10:50.medical history, and seek permission There will be a thorough

:10:51. > :10:57.inspection of all companies by the end of the year,

:10:58. > :10:59.but in the meantime, the official advice is to be very

:11:00. > :11:16.careful before you buy The number of people on

:11:17. > :11:20.controversial zero hours contracts have reached a record high and is

:11:21. > :11:24.close to hitting 1 million. New figures based on analysis of Office

:11:25. > :11:29.for National Statistics data revealed that 110,000 more people

:11:30. > :11:30.were on contracts that do not guaranteed work in 2016 compared to

:11:31. > :11:34.the same period in 2015. Sir Bruce Forsyth has spent

:11:35. > :11:36.five nights in intensive care after developing

:11:37. > :11:39.a severe chest infection. The veteran entertainer, who's 89,

:11:40. > :11:41.was taken to hospital Sir Bruce underwent surgery in 2015

:11:42. > :11:47.after he suffered two aneurysms, which were discovered when tests

:11:48. > :11:50.were carried out following a fall A union has warned a potential

:11:51. > :12:01.disaster was narrowly avoided when "at least" one commuter train

:12:02. > :12:04.came within seconds of smashing into tonnes of rubble blocking

:12:05. > :12:11.tracks near a major station. Debris was left strewn across four

:12:12. > :12:15.lines outside Liverpool's main Lime Street station when a wall

:12:16. > :12:17.collapsed in deep cuttings Hundreds of passengers were trapped

:12:18. > :12:23.on trains stuck in tunnels outside the hub which handles more

:12:24. > :12:25.than 15 million passenger The two accountants responsible

:12:26. > :12:32.for the wrong film being announced as winner of Best Picture

:12:33. > :12:35.at the Oscars have been given bodyguards, following reports

:12:36. > :12:37.that they have received death They have been told they will not be

:12:38. > :12:43.employed to do the Oscars job again, after they muddled up the envelopes

:12:44. > :12:53.naming the winners. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:12:54. > :13:02.News - more at 9.30am. Thank you, we want to hear from you

:13:03. > :13:06.if you are on a zero hours contract or if you are a company that uses

:13:07. > :13:10.them for people that work for you. They'd have said, I have been on

:13:11. > :13:13.zero hours contracts for five years, working for a private amulets serve

:13:14. > :13:17.as it was a choice I make at the decks ability suits my lifestyle. I

:13:18. > :13:22.understand is might not suit everybody. Matt says, this is a

:13:23. > :13:26.country fixated on cheap labour and business getting the maximum out of

:13:27. > :13:30.workers for the bare minimum. Thank you for those, keep them coming in.

:13:31. > :13:32.Let's get some sport and Hugh Woozencroft is at the BBC

:13:33. > :13:42.You got the blue shirt memo as well! Let's talk about football because

:13:43. > :13:48.there were ruled changes announced in golf this week and are looking

:13:49. > :13:52.also football. Good morning. It is that when when it comes to respect,

:13:53. > :13:57.football has an image problem, especially competitive likes of

:13:58. > :14:00.cricket and rugby. The perception is that in those sports, players are

:14:01. > :14:03.more measured and speak to referees and officials with a certain level

:14:04. > :14:07.of decorum but in football it is deemed to be different with players

:14:08. > :14:12.more than happy to hurl abuse at officials. The worry is that the

:14:13. > :14:15.behaviour spills over to fans, Sunday league players and even kids

:14:16. > :14:22.football and for a long time change was needed needed with rules brought

:14:23. > :14:24.in at the start of this season that urged referees to punish intolerable

:14:25. > :14:26.behaviour by players more strongly. The International Football

:14:27. > :14:33.Association board are looking to change the dynamic by enhancing the

:14:34. > :14:36.role of captain the team can play. The measures may stop players

:14:37. > :14:40.crowding around referees with only the skipper having the authority to

:14:41. > :14:43.talk to officials of the major incidents on the pitch. The former

:14:44. > :14:49.Premier League referee David Ellery is their technical director. We see

:14:50. > :14:51.in other sports sometimes the captain has a greater

:14:52. > :14:55.responsibility, if you look at cricket, the captain of the England

:14:56. > :14:59.team is almost more important during the match than the coach. We would

:15:00. > :15:02.not want to move in that direction but suddenly we believe the captain

:15:03. > :15:06.could play a much stronger role and we would move in this direction, not

:15:07. > :15:10.least by players and coaches who say to use captain is more and we are

:15:11. > :15:14.responding to that. We take the view that what does football want and we

:15:15. > :15:15.have to respond to that and football wants better behaviour and better

:15:16. > :15:29.image of the The annual meeting will propose a

:15:30. > :15:32.series of changes including sin-bins. So there could be some

:15:33. > :15:37.interesting and much-needed changes on the way for football. On to

:15:38. > :15:43.tennis, a win for Andy Murray in Dubai but he didn't do it the easy

:15:44. > :15:50.way. We know he is a very hard worker but you can't say he likes to

:15:51. > :16:03.make things easy for himself. The longest tie-break since 1991. It

:16:04. > :16:07.took an incredible 31 minutes, the tie-break alone, and as Murray had

:16:08. > :16:12.lost the first set he managed to save seven, yes seven match points

:16:13. > :16:20.to snatch victory from Kohlschreiber. Murray then powered

:16:21. > :16:27.to victory, needing just 30 minutes. He said will will never play a

:16:28. > :16:33.tie-break like that again. He move ops to face the Frenchman. But

:16:34. > :16:37.Djokovic was beaten by Nick Turkish yobs at the Mexican open. 25 aces

:16:38. > :16:41.for the 21-year-old in that one, it could be a turning point for him. A

:16:42. > :16:48.talented youngster, if frustrated in most of his games. After the

:16:49. > :16:54.football reforms, we will discuss a proposed ref re-strike, including a

:16:55. > :17:00.referee from my league. We will see about that. Thank you very much. We

:17:01. > :17:02.will talk to a couple of refs, the 18-year-old who has called the

:17:03. > :17:05.strike and another who was abused on the pitch.

:17:06. > :17:07.Robert Jones was only 19 years old when he was arrested

:17:08. > :17:09.for the notorious killing of a British tourist,

:17:10. > :17:12.Julie Stott, as well as three robberies and a brutal rape.

:17:13. > :17:15.He had no previous convictions, and by the time of his trial,

:17:16. > :17:17.another man had already been convicted of Julie's murder.

:17:18. > :17:21.But still Robert was to spend the next 24 years of his life locked

:17:22. > :17:23.up in some of Louisiana's most dangerous prisons for crimes

:17:24. > :17:34.After a long campaign for justice, he was released in 2015

:17:35. > :17:37.but he was still on parole and facing a retrial.

:17:38. > :17:39.Now, finally all charges against him have been dropped

:17:40. > :17:49.Yesterday I spoke to Robert and his lawyers Richard Davis and Emily Maw.

:17:50. > :17:51.Thank you all very much for joining us.

:17:52. > :17:53.I know, Robert, you've got your lawyer Richard alongside you.

:17:54. > :18:04.We'll speak to Richard and also emboli in a little while to hear

:18:05. > :18:07.We'll speak to Richard and also Emily in a little while to hear

:18:08. > :18:10.exactly what they are covered in terms of the legal process.

:18:11. > :18:13.But for you, Robert, what did you think when you were first

:18:14. > :18:15.arrested, and you knew that you had absolutely nothing

:18:16. > :18:19.Well, initially I thought it was a prank, some type of joke,

:18:20. > :18:29.I didn't do anything, so, I mean, it had to be some type of prank.

:18:30. > :18:33.And when you ask the people that were there, in my house,

:18:34. > :18:35.in my residence, where I was arrested from, I mean,

:18:36. > :18:41.Were there many people around you who believed in you,

:18:42. > :18:46.Being charged with those horrific crimes, that

:18:47. > :18:49.wasn't my character as a person, but, individually, you know,

:18:50. > :18:57.my family, as well as my friends, they knew I was innocent.

:18:58. > :19:00.When you went to jail, what state of mind were you in?

:19:01. > :19:07.There's no way in the world I can stay in prison

:19:08. > :19:15.Fighting it to that extent, you know, it never came

:19:16. > :19:26.to the equation, because I still, you know, had a sense of hope,

:19:27. > :19:28.thinking that, you know, these charges would be

:19:29. > :19:31.When you went to jail, you could barely read,

:19:32. > :19:34.during your time in jail you passed your high school diploma

:19:35. > :19:44.and you studied law so that you could become your own advocate.

:19:45. > :19:46.When you had that focus and that reason to study,

:19:47. > :19:48.you then find yourself a natural student?

:19:49. > :19:50.Yes, I mean, I had no luxury to quit.

:19:51. > :19:53.I was sentenced to life in prison, and life in Louisiana is, like,

:19:54. > :19:55.life without parole or suspended sentence, you know,

:19:56. > :20:03.I mean, I had to, you know, I was compelled, because

:20:04. > :20:12.I stayed on the fact that I knew the truth, I was innocent,

:20:13. > :20:15.and justice will prevail, I did not have a lot of choice.

:20:16. > :20:18.You armed yourself with the knowledge of the legal system.

:20:19. > :20:21.But in terms of actually producing evidence and knowing how

:20:22. > :20:26.to go about doing that, how did you start to do that,

:20:27. > :20:28.what was the starting point for you in terms

:20:29. > :20:40.As a prisoner then, not a prisoner now, as a prisoner then...

:20:41. > :20:45.There is very limited resources in the system.

:20:46. > :20:50.You take a lot of resources into proceedings...

:20:51. > :20:52.I mean, there were legal proceedings,

:20:53. > :20:58.So, I mean, I did my very best in my position.

:20:59. > :21:07.I mean, I wrote to district attorneys.

:21:08. > :21:13.I researched as much as I could research.

:21:14. > :21:22.I did the best I could do with the tools I had at that time.

:21:23. > :21:25.When you said just then, I'm not a prisoner now,

:21:26. > :21:27.and you smiled, and you looked utterly joyful, and it made me

:21:28. > :21:31.smile, I'm sure it makes everybody around you smile when we see the joy

:21:32. > :21:47.Let's bring in your lawyers, because these were the two

:21:48. > :21:49.people you got in touch with at the Innocence

:21:50. > :21:53.And what they went on to discover was mind blowing in terms

:21:54. > :21:56.of the miscarriage of justice you had been a victim of.

:21:57. > :22:00.And the fact you had been framed for crimes

:22:01. > :22:09.Richard, when you first became aware of Robert's story, how quickly did

:22:10. > :22:23.You didn't have to delve very deep into the case to see that someone

:22:24. > :22:26.else owned the car used in the crime, someone else was found

:22:27. > :22:28.with the victim's jewellery, and no evidence was presented

:22:29. > :22:31.at Robert's trial, but showed these two men knew each other.

:22:32. > :22:33.If Robert was guilty, how do you explain that this other

:22:34. > :22:36.person owned the car used in the crime, and how do you explain

:22:37. > :22:39.that this other person was found with the jewellery stolen

:22:40. > :22:44.While the prosecutor argued the two men were connected,

:22:45. > :22:52.there was actually no evidence of this, so, that, to ask,

:22:53. > :22:54.there was actually no evidence of this, so, that, to us,

:22:55. > :22:58.was quickly a very big red flag that we have an innocent man here.

:22:59. > :23:01.And Emily, that is an extraordinary thing, isn't it, that even before

:23:02. > :23:03.Robert actually went to trial, another man, Lester Jones,

:23:04. > :23:09.had been convicted and was already in jail for these crimes,

:23:10. > :23:12.but unpicking what had happened and the cover-up took some time.

:23:13. > :23:15.Tell us what you found about how the cover-up had happened,

:23:16. > :23:21.Robert's case presents every single thing that can go wrong

:23:22. > :23:29.in a criminal case in an overcrowded courthouse, in a place that looks up

:23:30. > :23:32.in a criminal case in an overcrowded courthouse, in a place that locks up

:23:33. > :23:37.more young black men than any other place per capita in the world.

:23:38. > :23:39.The judge, the court system failed Robert,

:23:40. > :23:41.the district attorney's office failed Robert, and his

:23:42. > :23:44.And whether some of those failings were deliberate, sorry,

:23:45. > :23:46.whether they were a product of an overburdened system,

:23:47. > :23:49.or whether when you get down to it there is certainly some deliberate

:23:50. > :23:55.misconduct on part of the state, knowing that they had prosecuted

:23:56. > :23:57.another man for this, and charging Robert with it anyway.

:23:58. > :24:00.Those are the kinds of questions that are going to be answered over

:24:01. > :24:02.the next couple of years in professional liability issues

:24:03. > :24:05.with some of the lawyers who were involved.

:24:06. > :24:13.Because it did emerge that actually one of the prosecutors knew

:24:14. > :24:15.at a very early stage that Lester Jones, the man

:24:16. > :24:19.who was convicted, and who had initially said that he knew Robert,

:24:20. > :24:25.but then later retracted that, said he had it beaten out of him.

:24:26. > :24:28.It emerged one of the prosecutors knew at a very early stage that that

:24:29. > :24:37.One of the most amazing things about Robert's case is that he tried

:24:38. > :24:41.to get back into court when he realised that the person

:24:42. > :24:44.who he didn't know, who he was accused of committing

:24:45. > :24:46.a bunch of crimes with, when he realised that this man,

:24:47. > :24:49.Lester Jones, had told police and prosecutors I don't know

:24:50. > :24:54.who Robert is, I've never met him, was told to say it but I wasn't

:24:55. > :24:57.going to come to court to say that because it wasn't true.

:24:58. > :25:01.Robert tried to present that to the courts.

:25:02. > :25:04.And for 12 years prosecutors argued that there is no such evidence

:25:05. > :25:06.that any conversation like that took place.

:25:07. > :25:09.The prosecutors didn't know anything about Lester Jones.

:25:10. > :25:13.Ultimately said they didn't about Robert Jones.

:25:14. > :25:16.And all the while in their files they have a memo corroborating

:25:17. > :25:28.And they fought and fought and fought to keep Robert Jones

:25:29. > :25:35.They fought successfully to keep Robert Jones convicted on the basis

:25:36. > :25:37.he was making up some statement from Lester Jones,

:25:38. > :25:39.although in their file they had evidence of that statement.

:25:40. > :25:42.Because if Lester Jones didn't know Robert Jones,

:25:43. > :25:45.there was absolutely no way Robert could have committed those crimes.

:25:46. > :25:48.Robert, you came out of prison at the age of 44.

:25:49. > :25:50.You will, of course, be a very different man

:25:51. > :25:56.During the years that you were in jail you had three

:25:57. > :25:58.children who grew up without you being able

:25:59. > :26:03.You can never get back the experiences that you would have

:26:04. > :26:26.But, I mean, it's wrong, it's heartbreaking.

:26:27. > :26:29.I mean, there's nothing you can basically do about that.

:26:30. > :26:33.But the thing is, you know, I prepared myself

:26:34. > :26:43.Not trying to make the years up, but just continue on with the years

:26:44. > :26:46.we do have left, and just build on that, continue on,

:26:47. > :26:54.Opposed to having all of this resentment and being angry,

:26:55. > :27:05.and, you know, no, so, I mean I can have a beautiful

:27:06. > :27:07.relationship with my children and my grandkids now.

:27:08. > :27:11.I mean, in spite of the injustice that was done to me and what was set

:27:12. > :27:15.out to be done to me in a sense of destroying me and making me

:27:16. > :27:17.some kind of monster and destroyed my kids' lives,

:27:18. > :27:21.I've got beautiful kids, I've got beautiful grandkids.

:27:22. > :27:31.Statistically wise, like I always say, you know,

:27:32. > :27:34.the system kind of set it up in a sense, saying that once

:27:35. > :27:36.a parent, especially a black male father,

:27:37. > :27:50.So, I mean, I'm OK with that, you know, and that's one thing that

:27:51. > :27:52.I used to communicate with my kids about it.

:27:53. > :27:56.The fact that, you know I want them to move forward, and try to do

:27:57. > :28:13.Because I'm free now, I'm not a monster, I'm

:28:14. > :28:19.a better person in the sense of understanding, you know,

:28:20. > :28:22.what's going on in my society, opposed to when I came

:28:23. > :28:25.I was a young, confused boy, didn't understand

:28:26. > :28:32.The system didn't destroy me, it didn't destroy my kids,

:28:33. > :28:39.we're moving on, and that don't make it right, because what happened

:28:40. > :28:51.Would it make a difference if anybody did, would

:28:52. > :29:07.It would be respectful in one sense, however, I mean,

:29:08. > :29:10.it doesn't, it doesn't remove the stain, you know?

:29:11. > :29:19.It would be respectful, to a degree, like I said,

:29:20. > :29:22.because that's human dignity, but, obviously we are not dealing

:29:23. > :29:36.Robert and his lawyers Richard Davis and Emily Maw

:29:37. > :29:40.If you want to watch our discussion again it's on our programme page -

:29:41. > :29:50."Not fit for purpose" - the highly critical report

:29:51. > :29:54.by the police watchdog into how the Cumbria force handled

:29:55. > :29:59.the death of 13-month-old Poppi Worthington five years ago.

:30:00. > :30:01.And as counting gets underway in Northern Ireland's Assembly

:30:02. > :30:04.election vote, we'll hear from young voters born after the peace deal

:30:05. > :30:16.Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:30:17. > :30:18.Police who investigated the sudden death of a baby in Cumbria

:30:19. > :30:23.have been criticised as "unstructured and disorganised."

:30:24. > :30:27.13-month-old Poppi Worthington collapsed

:30:28. > :30:29.at her home in Barrow-in-Furness in December 2012 -

:30:30. > :30:31.but the Independent Police Complaints Commission found

:30:32. > :30:40.that the investigation into her death was "not fit for purpose".

:30:41. > :30:43.We will have more reaction to that story in a few minutes.

:30:44. > :30:46.Theresa May will make it clear that keeping Scotland in the UK

:30:47. > :30:48.is a "personal priority" when she addresses the Scottish

:30:49. > :30:50.Conservative party conference in Glasgow this morning.

:30:51. > :30:52.Mrs May has met Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon

:30:53. > :30:59.Mrs Sturgeon maintains that she has a "cast iron mandate" to hold

:31:00. > :31:01.a second ballot - after Scotland overwhelmingly voted

:31:02. > :31:11.The US Attorney General is removing himself from an FBI investigation

:31:12. > :31:13.into claims Russia meddled in November's presidential election.

:31:14. > :31:16.Jeff Sessions has been under pressure to stand aside after it

:31:17. > :31:18.emerged he met the Russian ambassador during the

:31:19. > :31:22.President Trump insisted that Mr Sessions is an honest man

:31:23. > :31:24.but said he could have been more accurate when questioned about his

:31:25. > :31:37.Websites that sell prescription medicines can seem a tempting

:31:38. > :31:39.alternative to visiting a GP, especially if you're having

:31:40. > :31:43.problems getting a suitable doctor's appointment.

:31:44. > :31:45.But there's a warning these online services

:31:46. > :31:55.That's according to the health regulator in England,

:31:56. > :31:57.Sir Bruce Forsyth has spent five nights in intensive

:31:58. > :31:58.care after developing a severe chest infection.

:31:59. > :32:01.The veteran entertainer, who's 89, was taken to hospital

:32:02. > :32:04.Sir Bruce underwent surgery in 2015 after he suffered two aneurysms,

:32:05. > :32:07.which were discovered when tests were carried out following a fall

:32:08. > :32:20.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:32:21. > :32:28.Here's Hugh now with the sports headlines.

:32:29. > :32:36.Good morning, that could be big changes on the way for football come

:32:37. > :32:38.especially around discipline. Ifab, the International Football

:32:39. > :32:41.Association board, could enhance the role of the captain to stop players

:32:42. > :32:46.from surrounding referees. At the start of this is an new rules were

:32:47. > :32:50.brought in designed to punish players who abused officials more

:32:51. > :32:54.harshly. Today Aston Villa's Leandro Bacuna has been given a six match

:32:55. > :32:59.ban for another edition with an assistant referee last weekend. Andy

:33:00. > :33:01.Murray saved seven match point in 831 minute second set tie-break

:33:02. > :33:10.before beating Philipp Kohlschreiber. -- a 31 minute second

:33:11. > :33:14.set tie-break. And Castleford kept up their 100% start to the season,

:33:15. > :33:22.brushing aside leads. Back with more just after ten o'clock. Thank you.

:33:23. > :33:25.The sad face of Poppi Worthington, a 13-month-girl who died

:33:26. > :33:27.from serious injuries in hospital in December 2012 with a family court

:33:28. > :33:30.judge finding she had probably been sexually assaulted by her father

:33:31. > :33:33.He's consistently denied any wrongdoing and has

:33:34. > :33:37.Now a report by the police watchdog has said

:33:38. > :33:38.senior detectives in Cumbria investigating the death

:33:39. > :33:45.of the toddler were "unstructured and disorganised"

:33:46. > :33:47.The Independent Police Complaints Commission also said

:33:48. > :33:48.police did not adequately investigate whether

:33:49. > :33:53.Poppi had been abused, despite concerns raised

:33:54. > :33:57.It also said witness accounts were not taken until after Poppi's

:33:58. > :34:00.parents were arrested more than eight months after her death

:34:01. > :34:05.and the incident wasn't recorded as a crime until then.

:34:06. > :34:07.A second inquest into the death of Poppi Worthington

:34:08. > :34:12.The local MP for Barrow is John Woodcock.

:34:13. > :34:15.He said he is appalled by the report's findings.

:34:16. > :34:21.And apologies for the poor camera quality.

:34:22. > :34:24.We've known that the failings were terrible for some time

:34:25. > :34:29.but seeing them set out in black and white is truly, truly shocking.

:34:30. > :34:31.I mean, we get confirmation in this report, not only

:34:32. > :34:34.was there a pathologist's report which suggested that Poppi had been

:34:35. > :34:43.Not only should proper procedure, basic procedure should have been

:34:44. > :34:46.followed, but there was also intelligence pertinent

:34:47. > :34:49.to the father, a man who the family court judgment said it was probable

:34:50. > :34:51.that he had actually sexually abused Poppi before her death,

:34:52. > :35:01.It is vital now that the police, it is good they have apologised

:35:02. > :35:04.again, but they need to be able to show and be scrutinised

:35:05. > :35:08.that the safeguards they say they have put in place to ensure

:35:09. > :35:24.How do you explain how all of that happened?

:35:25. > :35:27.There was, I mean, there was gross, catastrophic incompetence

:35:28. > :35:32.at individual level and I'm going to be pressing the Home

:35:33. > :35:35.Secretary and the Prime Minister, who was Home Secretary at the time,

:35:36. > :35:37.to be changing the rules so people cannot either retire,

:35:38. > :35:40.as happened in this case, or actually be given another

:35:41. > :35:41.job after being found guilty of incompetence.

:35:42. > :35:44.But there was simply just not the system which allowed the work

:35:45. > :35:47.of individual officers on such an important case to be properly

:35:48. > :35:52.checked and that is as shocking as the individual failures.

:35:53. > :35:58.The police say they have put that right but we need to be really

:35:59. > :36:01.vigilant to ensure that has happened because of course, Poppi is now

:36:02. > :36:04.unlikely to ever receive justice, if it is true, as the family court

:36:05. > :36:07.judgment thought, that it was her father who was responsible

:36:08. > :36:09.for her death, he will never be brought to justice.

:36:10. > :36:12.He will be allowed to be free and that is devastating

:36:13. > :36:15.for the individuals who knew her and for our whole

:36:16. > :36:27.He obviously denies any involvement but as you say,

:36:28. > :36:29.a coroner did suggest exactly what you are saying.

:36:30. > :36:32.Just picking up on what you were talking about, officers retiring,

:36:33. > :36:36.because in this case, the two officers had

:36:37. > :36:38.been able to retire, they both have their full pensions,

:36:39. > :36:42.it is a situation that happens over and again.

:36:43. > :36:54.I'm going to be asking the government, the Home Secretary

:36:55. > :37:02.and the Prime Minister, who was responsible for this

:37:03. > :37:04.at the time, to change the rules finally so that this all-too-common

:37:05. > :37:06.practice of officers escaping justice by retiring

:37:07. > :37:11.But what is most disturbing is that one of these officers,

:37:12. > :37:15.she has now subsequently retired, Amanda Sadler, but she was found

:37:16. > :37:17.guilty of incompetence but although she was demoted,

:37:18. > :37:22.she carried on with a job in the force.

:37:23. > :37:26.Someone whose failings have been that catastrophic and that serious

:37:27. > :37:29.in terms of consequence should never be allowed to stay

:37:30. > :37:34.It sends a terrible message and that needs to be brought

:37:35. > :37:44.I then spoke to the Cumbria Police and Crime Commissioner,

:37:45. > :37:45.Peter McCall, and asked if he could account

:37:46. > :38:01.Frankly I can't explain, well, I can explain, I know what happened and

:38:02. > :38:09.what failed to happen. There is no excusing or covering up for this. It

:38:10. > :38:13.was an abject failure at the time on the behalf of those who were first

:38:14. > :38:20.on scene and the subsequent investigation. It was a complete

:38:21. > :38:27.mistake and there is no dressing that up. Which is why come quite

:38:28. > :38:31.rightly, the Chief Constable has absolutely accepted in full the

:38:32. > :38:36.criticism which has appropriately been levelled by the IPCC. Is that

:38:37. > :38:41.enough? Nobody in the police force loses out as a result of this, the

:38:42. > :38:46.tee officers who were heavily criticised our both retired and on

:38:47. > :38:54.pensions -- the tee officers. That is not quite true. One of the

:38:55. > :38:59.officers retired in advance of disciplinary process and I'm very

:39:00. > :39:04.pleased to say that actually legislation has changed since then

:39:05. > :39:10.and that could happen again in future. I welcome that very

:39:11. > :39:19.strongly. The other officer who was also alleged to have conducted gross

:39:20. > :39:24.misconduct was disciplined, reduced in rank, and has subsequently left

:39:25. > :39:29.the force. In both cases, the professional reputation of both of

:39:30. > :39:38.those officers has had a very severe knock. While that in no way in my

:39:39. > :39:42.view is justice in this case for Poppi, I don't think it is quite

:39:43. > :39:48.true to say that they have got off scot-free. It can never be made up

:39:49. > :39:56.to her family. What do you say to them? Of course not. The tragedy

:39:57. > :40:01.here is that, because of those failings, we cannot deliver justice

:40:02. > :40:09.to Poppi and I think that is a source of deep regret for us all.

:40:10. > :40:16.And quite rightly we make a full and frank apology to the family. Nothing

:40:17. > :40:19.will bring Poppi back. And it is quite important to make the point

:40:20. > :40:23.that the failings of the Constabulary of course occurred

:40:24. > :40:30.after the death of Poppi and it is important to draw that distinction.

:40:31. > :40:35.What do you mean? It is very easy to think that the failings of the

:40:36. > :40:40.Constabulary failed to prevent her death and I don't think that is in

:40:41. > :40:43.question at all. Nobody is saying that is what the police force should

:40:44. > :40:46.have been poor, but if somebody else's job, but the job of the

:40:47. > :40:51.police is to investigate when something happened and that did not

:40:52. > :40:55.happen here. Absolutely and it was a complete failure, no question about

:40:56. > :41:01.it and nobody is trying to press that up in any other way. That was

:41:02. > :41:02.Peter McCall, the Police and Crime Commissioners for Cumbria. Coming

:41:03. > :41:03.up... A warning for patients

:41:04. > :41:13.in England about the risk It might be an easy way to get

:41:14. > :41:16.something if you need it but there are concerns are being discussed on

:41:17. > :41:24.it today and we will have the details. And a couple of comments on

:41:25. > :41:28.the interview with Robert Jones we played a while ago, the man who was

:41:29. > :41:35.jailed at the age of 19 for a crime he did not commit. He was inside for

:41:36. > :41:38.24 years before it was uncovered quite what had happened to him and

:41:39. > :41:46.the fact that he had effectively been framed for the crime. We heard

:41:47. > :41:48.from him. Mandy says, what a cracking blog, I hope we have the

:41:49. > :41:55.best light and enjoys every second of it. Gordon says, enjoy your

:41:56. > :42:02.freedom, I looked across the pond but I'm sorry. It was remarkable to

:42:03. > :42:05.see the absolute joy that he exudes in spite of everything he has been

:42:06. > :42:12.through, the resilience he showed an Nabli is a free man. -- now he is.

:42:13. > :42:13.Votes are being counted in Northern Ireland

:42:14. > :42:17.following the collapse of the power-sharing

:42:18. > :42:20.It's the second election to be held in ten months.

:42:21. > :42:27.Our correspondent Annita McVeigh is in Belfast.

:42:28. > :42:35.Tell us why we are where we are ten months after the last election. Good

:42:36. > :42:39.morning from Belfast. Ten months since the last time voters were

:42:40. > :42:43.asked to go to the polls and in that time the relationship between the

:42:44. > :42:47.two main parties in Northern Ireland's devolved government, the

:42:48. > :42:51.Unionist DUP and Republican Sinn Fein, that relationship really

:42:52. > :42:56.deteriorated, culminating in the row over a botched renewable heating

:42:57. > :43:02.scheme set to cost the taxpayer around half ?1 billion, and in

:43:03. > :43:06.January that row led to the collapse of the power-sharing assembly. If

:43:07. > :43:09.you think being asked to go to the polls for the second time in less

:43:10. > :43:16.than a year would put voters off, you would be wrong. Last time round

:43:17. > :43:21.the turnout was around 55%, just less, but this time, although we do

:43:22. > :43:26.not have an official figure yet, we are hearing anecdotally of high

:43:27. > :43:31.turnout in some constituencies, more than 70% or 80%, almost 90% I saw

:43:32. > :43:36.being suggested in one constituency this morning. That really is quite

:43:37. > :43:43.an incredible and interesting way to start this counting process. We can

:43:44. > :43:49.look now at what has been going on with Chris Butler. Stormont's

:43:50. > :43:54.power-sharing government collapsed in January forcing this election.

:43:55. > :43:57.The DUP and Sinn Fein fell out over a range of issues including the

:43:58. > :44:04.financial scandal surrounding what is known as the RHI, the renewable

:44:05. > :44:07.heat incentive, a botched scheme which was at one stage projected to

:44:08. > :44:12.cost the taxpayer around half ?1 billion. It has been a bitter

:44:13. > :44:16.campaign and it has felt more divisive than the last election held

:44:17. > :44:21.less than a year ago. We can see those result in a virtual assembly

:44:22. > :44:26.chamber. The DUP returned as the biggest party with 38 of the 108

:44:27. > :44:31.assembly members while Sinn Fein was in second place with 28 seats. The

:44:32. > :44:34.opposition parties, the SDLP, the Oster unionists and the Alliance

:44:35. > :44:40.will all be hoping to their share of the votes after the coalition fell

:44:41. > :44:43.apart and that is true for the smaller parties but some politicians

:44:44. > :44:48.will definitely lose their seats because the number of members is

:44:49. > :44:53.being reduced from 108 down to just 90. And another number to watch, the

:44:54. > :44:57.size of the DUP in the last assembly gave the party what is known as a

:44:58. > :45:01.petition of concern. In effect that is a veto to prevent any legislation

:45:02. > :45:05.they don't like. For example, they used it to block a vote in favour of

:45:06. > :45:09.the introduction of same-sex marriage which is still illegal in

:45:10. > :45:13.Northern Ireland. They need to hold onto 30 seats to keep that veto.

:45:14. > :45:16.Even when all of the votes are counted, there will need to be a

:45:17. > :45:20.deal between the parties to give this assembly up and running again

:45:21. > :45:21.and most people are predicting that those negotiations could be

:45:22. > :45:32.difficult. Those negotiations could be very

:45:33. > :45:38.difficult. Sinn Fein's leader here has already said that she won't go

:45:39. > :45:42.back in to a power-sharing relationship with the DUP, former

:45:43. > :45:45.First Minister Arlene Foster until an inquiry into that botched

:45:46. > :45:54.renewable heating initiative has been completed. So on the face of

:45:55. > :45:57.it, that would seem to put a pretty insurmountable obstacle in the way.

:45:58. > :46:02.Nonetheless, come Monday, after the votes have been counted and the

:46:03. > :46:06.seats have been won or lost, those MLAs who have been re-elected or

:46:07. > :46:12.elected for the first time will go to Stormont and then, there is a

:46:13. > :46:17.period of three weeks, taking us to 27th March. That the point the

:46:18. > :46:20.parties are supposed to elect a new First Minister, and Deputy First

:46:21. > :46:29.Minister, of course as you will know the assembly is set up really, to

:46:30. > :46:33.reflect the main political groupings in Northern Ireland, both

:46:34. > :46:38.Republican, nationalist and unionist, loyalist, so if they can't

:46:39. > :46:42.elect the First Minister and deputy firm, what happens next? The

:46:43. > :46:46.Northern Ireland Secretary could in theory call another election, would

:46:47. > :46:51.there really be an an title for a third election in such a short time

:46:52. > :46:55.frame? He could suspend the assembly again, he could impose direct rule,

:46:56. > :46:59.but that would require new legislation at Westminster, and

:47:00. > :47:03.certainly there is no suggestion that the Government in Westminster

:47:04. > :47:08.has any appetite for direct rule, it has enough on its hands with the

:47:09. > :47:12.Brexit process, finally and most likely there could be some sort of

:47:13. > :47:17.call it a fudge, call it breathing space, call it what you will, an

:47:18. > :47:19.extended period in which Westminster hopes the politicians here in

:47:20. > :47:24.Northern Ireland can work out some sort of deal that means they get

:47:25. > :47:26.back to governing Northern Ireland directly.

:47:27. > :47:30.As we wait for the votes to be counted, we want to hear

:47:31. > :47:32.from the Good Friday generation, those Northern Irelander's not born

:47:33. > :47:36.when the peace agreement was signed nearly 19 years ago.

:47:37. > :47:38.What do they think about the country's political

:47:39. > :47:41.climate and how optimistic are they for the future?

:47:42. > :47:45.We have a group of students from Hazlewood College.

:47:46. > :47:48.Ben Malcolmson is 18, so could vote yesterday in the election.

:47:49. > :47:53.17-year-old Claudia Marshall couldn't vote yesterday

:47:54. > :47:56.but would love to see parties other than the Democratic Unionist Party

:47:57. > :47:59.Rachel Fitzsimons and Fran Collins are both 17-years-old, Catholic,

:48:00. > :48:02.and want to see religion separated from politics.

:48:03. > :48:09.Thank you'll very much for joining us. How did you feel then, Ben as

:48:10. > :48:16.you voted in this second election in ten months? I felt great, as my

:48:17. > :48:21.first time voting I felt like I could make a change with my vote. I

:48:22. > :48:26.felt great, I felt optimistic, it is uncertain with our Government at the

:48:27. > :48:31.moment, but I felt as my duty to vote and get my opinion out there.

:48:32. > :48:36.Were you, are you aware of the shadow of the past, the fact that

:48:37. > :48:41.the system there is obviously designed to, it was designed as a

:48:42. > :48:45.way forward from the history, and you were born after the agreement

:48:46. > :48:53.was reached. How conscious are you of all of that in I feel like after

:48:54. > :48:57.the agreement, I feel, I think we look forward and be optimistic about

:48:58. > :49:03.the future. Times are uncertain especially in Stormont. I feel like

:49:04. > :49:07.people dwell on the past a lot. I feel we need an optimistic future to

:49:08. > :49:11.progress, I feel like our generation, my generation as a whole

:49:12. > :49:18.needs to find their feet and look forward to the future. Claudia, I

:49:19. > :49:22.said that you want religion and politics to be completely separated.

:49:23. > :49:30.How do you see what is happening there? I do agree with that and with

:49:31. > :49:34.Ben that we are a country that is very behind, a country that lives in

:49:35. > :49:39.the past a lot. We need to look to the future and focus more on the

:49:40. > :49:44.future and stop delling on the past as much as we are. I do agree that

:49:45. > :49:49.religion needs to be separated from politics because it wouldn't be

:49:50. > :49:54.happening anywhere else really. Do you understand why it is as it is?

:49:55. > :50:00.Yes, like I do understand, and I don't think that we should forget

:50:01. > :50:07.the past but I do think that we need to start moving forward with ideas

:50:08. > :50:11.and just, there has been so much arguing and just... Unnecessary

:50:12. > :50:16.obstacle in our way that could be removed if we Knorr got some of the

:50:17. > :50:24.things and moved on with what we are trying to do in this country. How do

:50:25. > :50:34.you esee it Rachel I feel the same. Religion should be separate from

:50:35. > :50:40.politics, we need to move forward, we need people in power who don't

:50:41. > :50:45.knows can on religion or who focus on religion but everyone's religion.

:50:46. > :50:48.As we have said, you are the post Good Friday generation, do you have

:50:49. > :50:53.conversations with your parents about this and other people who

:50:54. > :50:57.obviously, you know, previous generations who lived through who,

:50:58. > :51:03.very well understand why the system is as it is? Yes. Well I feel like

:51:04. > :51:07.older generations have a lot more history and they have grown up and

:51:08. > :51:11.experienced much more than any engeneration has. But I feel it's a

:51:12. > :51:16.conversation to have. I feel like a lot of young people don't talk about

:51:17. > :51:19.politics because it is something their parents or grandparents say

:51:20. > :51:26.forget about it, ignore it because it is all scrap in a way. I feel

:51:27. > :51:32.like our generation needs to find its own feet. I feel like a lot of

:51:33. > :51:37.the older generation trickle down to our generation, we need to find our

:51:38. > :51:41.own fate and think for yourselves instead of listening to older ones

:51:42. > :51:47.but take their experience to make a better society for us. Claudeia Ben

:51:48. > :51:52.said, a lot of your generation don't talk about politics but you three

:51:53. > :52:00.seem to be very sort of engages and -- engaged and switched on about

:52:01. > :52:06.politics, how would you say your generation regards politics, and the

:52:07. > :52:11.history there? I agree. I think a lot of people our age may not talk

:52:12. > :52:16.about politics but maybe some of the older generation think none of our

:52:17. > :52:19.generation we really care, and we are all, like focussing on ourself,

:52:20. > :52:25.and I don't think that is particularly true. I am focussed on

:52:26. > :52:30.what is happening in my country. I am focusseded on the political

:52:31. > :52:33.standing. It's a conversation I have with my mum most nights, she is very

:52:34. > :52:40.involved with the election, she couldn't wait to get out and vote.

:52:41. > :52:45.My mum and dad both voted. I really encourage younger generation and

:52:46. > :52:49.people my age and maybe younger to go out and talk about politics,

:52:50. > :52:54.because this is our future we are talking about. I go to an integrated

:52:55. > :52:58.school. We all accept each other, that is how it should be, that is

:52:59. > :53:06.how we need to start moving on, we need to come together and just make

:53:07. > :53:11.a change. And I said that you are an atheist, was that a decision taken

:53:12. > :53:17.because of the past there or is that just not a factor for you? It's a

:53:18. > :53:24.decision that I don't think religion really needs to rule my life,

:53:25. > :53:29.necessarily. I wouldn't call myself as much an atheist. I just say I

:53:30. > :53:34.don't have no particular religion. I don't want one, I see it causing a

:53:35. > :53:39.lot of problems, I never really grew up adds a religious person, my mum

:53:40. > :53:44.is Catholic and my dad is Protestant so we came from a mixed family any

:53:45. > :53:48.way, and if we wanted to have a religion my parents were for it,

:53:49. > :53:54.they wanted us to make our own decision this is the decision I came

:53:55. > :54:04.to. It is is really great to talk to you all. Thank you. Ben, Claudia and

:54:05. > :54:08.Rachel. Coming up the extreme extremist some amateur referees are

:54:09. > :54:10.subjected to on the pitch. Thousands of amateur referees are planning a

:54:11. > :54:13.strike in protest. Patients could be at risk of harm

:54:14. > :54:16.when buying medication on the internet warns

:54:17. > :54:18.the Care Quality Commission. The health care watchdog,

:54:19. > :54:20.has, for the first time, published a clear set of guidelines

:54:21. > :54:23.for online companies in England This follows the publication of two

:54:24. > :54:26.inspection reports which found that two online providers failed

:54:27. > :54:29.to deliver safe care and potentially In our Salford studio this morning

:54:30. > :54:36.is journalist and locum GP Dr Faye Kirkland,

:54:37. > :54:45.who investigated some Tell us first of all, how many

:54:46. > :54:50.people are using them, because it can be difficult to get a GP's

:54:51. > :54:55.appointment, it is very tempting to go online and short circuit the

:54:56. > :54:58.system? It is an interesting question, the short answer is the

:54:59. > :55:01.Care Quality Commission doesn't know, a lot of providers are private

:55:02. > :55:08.so they don't have to feedback on how many patients are using them.

:55:09. > :55:12.One companies they inspected say they issued more than 3,000

:55:13. > :55:18.prescriptions, with one doctor working for them. The Care Quality

:55:19. > :55:23.Commission say it is a booming industry. So issues have been

:55:24. > :55:28.flagged up by the Care Quality Commission, what are the concerns?

:55:29. > :55:35.The main concerns that relate to the two sites they inspected fall into a

:55:36. > :55:40.number of category, they felt the sites were inadequately identifying

:55:41. > :55:44.the patients going online. They would fill in an online

:55:45. > :55:52.questionnaire and passed on the a doctor. They said did they provide a

:55:53. > :55:57.good enough history of the medical concerns so were the appropriate?

:55:58. > :56:01.Did the patients understand the risk and benefits? I spoke to a Professor

:56:02. > :56:05.about my investigation, which I did for 5 Live about this topic last

:56:06. > :56:10.October. He said he was very concerned.

:56:11. > :56:17.Your investigation was really important. We just started to look

:56:18. > :56:22.at the remote consulting doctors online prescribing, it helped us

:56:23. > :56:29.prioritise and we brought forward a number of inspections so we had now

:56:30. > :56:32.looked at 11 providers, two of which have been published today, and we

:56:33. > :56:38.are quite shocked about what we found. Indeed in those other

:56:39. > :56:45.providers we have also found serious problems and those reports will be

:56:46. > :56:51.published ore the next few weeks. How do you sigh the people going

:56:52. > :56:56.online and getting prescriptions, what would your concerns be? They

:56:57. > :57:01.don't know what they are get, are they getting the same quality of

:57:02. > :57:04.care. They are working like family doctors but online, the doctors

:57:05. > :57:09.should be giving the same care as face to face online. That could be

:57:10. > :57:15.difficult. Doctors need to think about if their care is truly

:57:16. > :57:20.adequate. I think the GMC will look at this further. We know that the

:57:21. > :57:24.Care Quality Commission has issued guidance for patients, it is hard

:57:25. > :57:29.for them to know if the site is offering quality care, they need to

:57:30. > :57:33.look at the site and see where it is registered. Is it registered with

:57:34. > :57:40.the Care Quality Commission if it is in England. Are they asking

:57:41. > :57:45.questions about their GP? If not patients need to use them with

:57:46. > :57:50.caution. The fact this has been looked at by the Care Quality

:57:51. > :57:56.Commission. What does that indicate in terms of the oversight? They are

:57:57. > :58:02.taking it seriously. They are concerned about the two sites and

:58:03. > :58:05.there is 43 of them. They have insected another nine. They are

:58:06. > :58:09.planning to look at this by the end of testify year. They are doing it

:58:10. > :58:13.because of the concern, hopefully by the end of the year all the sites

:58:14. > :58:18.will havest will have been looked at. There are probably excellent

:58:19. > :58:21.ones but because they haven't been all inspected that is why the Care

:58:22. > :58:22.Quality Commission is saying act with caution.

:58:23. > :58:27.Let's get the latest weather update, with Helen Willetts.

:58:28. > :58:34.Some flip-flopping with the weather this weekend. Let us look. We have

:58:35. > :58:39.contrast in the weather today, some, I can show you those, what a

:58:40. > :58:44.stunning morning in high land Scotland. Contrast this with many

:58:45. > :58:50.parts of England and Wales under cloud and rain. This is Essex a

:58:51. > :58:57.while ago. Those pictures cross England and Wales, really, the them

:58:58. > :59:00.for today, but for the weekend that rain flips northwards, we will

:59:01. > :59:05.hopefully see something brighter in the south, but there is rain on

:59:06. > :59:11.horizon. It is unsettled this weekend. This area of rain in the

:59:12. > :59:16.north has been giving cold weather, foggy weather for some hills. There

:59:17. > :59:22.is just still the slightest risk of snow on the hills. The rain heads

:59:23. > :59:29.northwards but northern Scotland fewer showers, plenty of sunshine,

:59:30. > :59:33.what a lovely day. So, for the south, let us start here. There will

:59:34. > :59:39.be heavy bursts of rain or showers round. The south and east may be

:59:40. > :59:45.lucky enough to dry up. We could see 13 or 14 but for most with the rain

:59:46. > :59:51.it feels chilly. It will be across Northern Ireland, and into southern

:59:52. > :59:57.Scotland grey, but north of that, as you can see, a respectable six or

:59:58. > :00:01.seven, then it changes, but through the evening and overnight the rain

:00:02. > :00:06.is heading in. Notice still the risk of snow on the hills. Elsewhere, we

:00:07. > :00:09.clear not Northern Ireland but for England and Wales we clear some of

:00:10. > :00:15.the main rain but remain showery, mild, murky and grey over the hills,

:00:16. > :00:22.a breeze still broing tomorrow, look at the difference for Scotland.

:00:23. > :00:26.Shetland should do you OK. For the bullet of Scotland's, a damp day

:00:27. > :00:30.again here, England and Wales does look better today, it is brighter.

:00:31. > :00:35.Should be sunshine hopefully but again the risk of showers or longer

:00:36. > :00:41.spells at time so it is better than today. It is not drew. Still

:00:42. > :00:48.slow-moving low pressure round on Sunday. We could have disruptive

:00:49. > :00:52.snow this weekend. It is down to low pressures across our country again.

:00:53. > :00:58.Your can see the low pressure has moved. We return to the rain for

:00:59. > :01:02.parts of England and Wales, while Scotland have a drier day. Northern

:01:03. > :01:08.Ireland hopefully as well but round this area there will be the ribs of

:01:09. > :01:11.unsettled weather and beyond. At least it is relatively mild. That is

:01:12. > :01:16.how it is looks at the minute. Hello it's Friday it's 10 o'clock,

:01:17. > :01:19.I'm Joanna Gosling. Theresa May accuses the SNP

:01:20. > :01:21.of having tunnel vision over independence and says the country

:01:22. > :01:28.doesn't want another referendum. This is the scene at

:01:29. > :01:31.the Scottish Conservative's conference in Glasgow,

:01:32. > :01:33.where the Prime Minister will be making a speech

:01:34. > :01:35.in a few minutes time - Head-butted, spat at

:01:36. > :01:39.and verbally abused. This kind of treatment is why 2000

:01:40. > :01:42.referees up and down the country will be on strike this weekend -

:01:43. > :01:46.to try and get the FA to do more And - the oven gloves are off

:01:47. > :01:52.as the BBC's new version Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

:01:53. > :02:08.with a summary of today's news. Theresa May will make it clear that

:02:09. > :02:11.keeping Scotland in the UK is a "personal priority"

:02:12. > :02:13.when she addresses the Scottish Conservative party conference

:02:14. > :02:21.in Glasgow this morning. Mrs May has met Scotland's First

:02:22. > :02:23.Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, Mrs Sturgeon maintains that she has

:02:24. > :02:27.a "cast iron mandate" to hold a second ballot -

:02:28. > :02:29.after Scotland overwhelmingly voted The US Attorney General is removing

:02:30. > :02:36.himself from an FBI investigation into claims Russia meddled

:02:37. > :02:40.in November's presidential election. Jeff Sessions has been under

:02:41. > :02:43.pressure to stand aside after it emerged he met the Russian

:02:44. > :02:45.ambassador during the President Trump insisted that

:02:46. > :02:55.Mr Sessions is an honest man but said he could have

:02:56. > :02:57.been more accurate when questioned under oath

:02:58. > :02:58.about his Websites that sell prescription

:02:59. > :03:04.medicines can seem a tempting alternative to visiting a GP,

:03:05. > :03:06.especially if you're having problems getting a suitable

:03:07. > :03:08.doctor's appointment. But there's a warning

:03:09. > :03:09.these online services That's according to the health

:03:10. > :03:15.regulator in England, Police who investigated the sudden

:03:16. > :03:36.death of a baby in Cumbria have Their handling of the case was

:03:37. > :03:38.described as unstructured and disorganised.

:03:39. > :03:38.13-month-old Poppi Worthington collapsed

:03:39. > :03:40.at her home in Barrow-in-Furness in December 2012

:03:41. > :03:42.but the Independent Police Complaints Commission found

:03:43. > :03:51.that the investigation into her death was "not fit for purpose".

:03:52. > :03:56.The number of people on controversial zero hours contracts

:03:57. > :03:59.has reached a record high and is close to hitting 1 million.

:04:00. > :04:01.New figures based on analysis of Office

:04:02. > :04:03.for National Statistics data revealed that 110,000 more people

:04:04. > :04:06.were on contracts that do not guaranteed work in 2016 compared to

:04:07. > :04:16.Sir Bruce Forsyth has spent five nights in intensive

:04:17. > :04:19.care after developing a severe chest infection.

:04:20. > :04:21.The veteran entertainer, who's 89, was taken to hospital

:04:22. > :04:25.Sir Bruce underwent surgery in 2015 after he suffered two aneurysms,

:04:26. > :04:28.which were discovered when tests were carried out following a fall

:04:29. > :04:38.The two accountants responsible for the wrong film being announced

:04:39. > :04:40.as winner of Best Picture at the Oscars have been given

:04:41. > :04:42.bodyguards, following reports that they have received death

:04:43. > :04:51.They have been told they will not be employed to do the Oscars job again,

:04:52. > :04:56.after they muddled up the envelopes naming the winners.

:04:57. > :05:02.The Hollywood actor Tom Hanks has offered his support

:05:03. > :05:04.for journalists at the White House, by buying them an espresso machine.

:05:05. > :05:09.He also sent a note, hinting at Donald Trump's feud

:05:10. > :05:12.with some media which the president accused of peddling "fake news" -

:05:13. > :05:15.urging them to "keep up the good fight for truth,

:05:16. > :05:28.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

:05:29. > :05:35.Thank you, an unexpected present from Tom Hanks! A couple of comments

:05:36. > :05:40.on zero hours contracts, Ralph says, they should be banned. As a former

:05:41. > :05:46.supervisor in the NHS I have seen the misery and uncertainty they have

:05:47. > :05:50.caused to workers lives. Employers are not treating workers fairly or

:05:51. > :05:54.with respect with these contracts. Chris says, I run a small company

:05:55. > :05:58.and my men operate on zero hours contracts. I would love to be able

:05:59. > :06:02.to employ them on normal contract but our work is very sporadic soap

:06:03. > :06:06.without them, we simply could not exist and we would all lose our

:06:07. > :06:11.jobs. It annoys me that the only publicity you hear on the subject is

:06:12. > :06:13.negative and assumes that the contract are exploited by

:06:14. > :06:19.unscrupulous bosses. Of course, like any system, it can be abused and

:06:20. > :06:23.unfortunately there are those who will visit is a press pay but there

:06:24. > :06:26.must be many firms like ours which have zero hours contracts out of

:06:27. > :06:30.necessity so I strongly within the accusation that we are using them as

:06:31. > :06:35.a method of low-paid and I can tell you that when we have worked, my men

:06:36. > :06:35.can earn a considerable sum each week. Thank you for those.

:06:36. > :06:38.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:06:39. > :06:44.Here's Hugh now with the morning's sport.

:06:45. > :06:49.Captains could be given more was possibility in top-level football to

:06:50. > :06:54.encourage a better relationship between players and officials under

:06:55. > :06:57.new proposals from Ifab, the International Football Association

:06:58. > :07:01.board, saying that captains would be the only players permitted to speak

:07:02. > :07:03.to referees about major incidents. They will discuss the possible

:07:04. > :07:09.changes at their annual meeting later. We see in other sports

:07:10. > :07:13.sometimes the captain have a greater responsibility. In cricket, the

:07:14. > :07:16.captain of the England team is almost more important during the

:07:17. > :07:19.match ban the coach. We would not want to move in that direction but

:07:20. > :07:24.certainly we believe the captain could play a much stronger role and

:07:25. > :07:28.we would move in this direction, not least by players and coaches who say

:07:29. > :07:33.to use the captain is more so we are responding to that. We take a view,

:07:34. > :07:36.what does football want? We have to respond that and football wants

:07:37. > :07:40.better behaviour and better image of the game and the captains might play

:07:41. > :07:43.role in that area. That is all we have time for now. Thank you.

:07:44. > :07:45.Theresa May is addressing the Scottish Conservative Party

:07:46. > :08:02.Last May, you achieved our party's best ever result in a Scottish

:08:03. > :08:06.parliament election, doubling the number of Conservative MSP is. You

:08:07. > :08:11.took second place in the Scottish election for the first time in 25

:08:12. > :08:25.years, and you beat the Scottish Labour Party for the first time in

:08:26. > :08:29.60 years. APPLAUSE Every MSP, candid and activists can

:08:30. > :08:34.take pride in that result. But there is one person without whom none of

:08:35. > :08:37.it would have been possible, the Leader of the Opposition in the

:08:38. > :08:50.Scottish Parliament, the MSP for Edinburgh Central, your leader and

:08:51. > :08:55.my friend, Ruth Davidson. APPLAUSE Last year Ruth had a clear and

:08:56. > :09:00.simple message. Vote Scottish Conservative to sign a much needed

:09:01. > :09:05.light on the SNP's record and to hold ministers to account. Since

:09:06. > :09:09.last May, she and her team in Holyrood have been doing just that

:09:10. > :09:16.and at Westminster Scotland has a strong and respected voice at the

:09:17. > :09:21.Cabinet table in David Mundell. APPLAUSE

:09:22. > :09:26.I have worked alongside David for years and have seen first hand what

:09:27. > :09:31.a champion he is for Scotland for our party and our United Kingdom. He

:09:32. > :09:34.may be one man but his hard work and determination have achieved far more

:09:35. > :09:42.for Scotland than the noisy antics of all the SNP MPs combined.

:09:43. > :09:49.APPLAUSE While others fail to hold the SNP to

:09:50. > :09:55.account, Ruth and David's job in doing so is ever more vital. Because

:09:56. > :10:00.for too long, a feeble and incompetent Scottish Labour

:10:01. > :10:08.opposition did nothing to scrutinise the SNP for their failures. An SNP

:10:09. > :10:11.government interested in only stoking up endless constitutional

:10:12. > :10:15.grievance and furthering their obsession with independence at the

:10:16. > :10:21.expense of Scottish public services like the NHS and education, was

:10:22. > :10:26.given a free pass by Labour. With roof now leading the charge, the

:10:27. > :10:38.SNP's holiday from democratic accountability has come to an end --

:10:39. > :10:42.with Ruth. APPLAUSE Take education. Ruth and her

:10:43. > :10:46.formidable team of dreich have exposed the SNP's mismanagement of

:10:47. > :10:53.Scotland's schools. Scottish schools, which once led the world in

:10:54. > :10:57.setting the highest standards of attainment are now outperformed in

:10:58. > :11:03.every category by schools in England, Northern Ireland, Estonia

:11:04. > :11:09.and Poland. Education, fully devolved since 1999 and under the

:11:10. > :11:13.SNP's stewardship for ten years. But standards have fallen all stop the

:11:14. > :11:21.attainment gap remains and Scottish Young people are losing out. 150,000

:11:22. > :11:25.further education places cut by the Nationalists, a cap on the number of

:11:26. > :11:30.Scottish students who can enter higher education, fewer young people

:11:31. > :11:35.from the poorest backgrounds make it to university than in the rest of

:11:36. > :11:40.the UK. And just this week, we have learned the SNP government has

:11:41. > :11:44.delayed its planned education Bill. Such is their obsession with the

:11:45. > :11:56.single issue of independence. APPLAUSE

:11:57. > :11:59.The SNP's neglect and mismanagement of Scottish education has been a

:12:00. > :12:05.scandal but sadly it does not stop there. The abysmal failure of their

:12:06. > :12:09.farm payment system, the replacement of stamp duty with a new tax which

:12:10. > :12:15.judges Scottish home-buyers more but bring in less revenue than promised.

:12:16. > :12:20.Starving a health service by refusing to match the spending

:12:21. > :12:23.increases on the NHS in England. The SNP government demands that the

:12:24. > :12:28.powers for the Scottish parliament but fails to pass powers onto local

:12:29. > :12:32.people in Scotland's villages, towns and cities. They have scrapped the

:12:33. > :12:37.right to buy, denying ordinary working families a chance to their

:12:38. > :12:42.own home. They opposed our nuclear deterrent which keeps us all safe

:12:43. > :12:47.and on which tens of thousands of Scottish jobs rely. The simple truth

:12:48. > :12:51.is their policies are not in the best interests of Scotland but in

:12:52. > :13:01.the political interest of the SNP. APPLAUSE

:13:02. > :13:09.A party resolutely focused on just one thing, independence. For them it

:13:10. > :13:17.is not about doing the right thing, the SNP play politics as if it were

:13:18. > :13:22.a game. But politics is not a game. And the management of devolved

:13:23. > :13:27.public services in Scotland is too important to be neglected. People in

:13:28. > :13:31.Scotland deserve a First Minister who is focused on their priorities,

:13:32. > :13:36.raising standards in education, taking care of the health service,

:13:37. > :13:42.reforming criminal justice, helping the economy prosper, improving

:13:43. > :13:47.people's lives. Instead they have an SNP government obsessed with its own

:13:48. > :13:51.priority of independence, using the mechanisms of devolved government to

:13:52. > :13:56.further its political aims, and all the while neglecting and mismanaging

:13:57. > :14:05.public services in Scotland. The SNP have been allowed to get away with

:14:06. > :14:12.it for too long. APPLAUSE But not any more. Now in Ruth

:14:13. > :14:16.Davidson Scotland has a fighter who will stand up to the SNP

:14:17. > :14:22.establishment in the interests of the Scottish people and provide a

:14:23. > :14:26.real alternative to the SNP. But as well as taking on the SNP for their

:14:27. > :14:34.failures in office, we have another important job. When I stood outside

:14:35. > :14:41.Downing Street on the day I became Prime Minister, I reminded people in

:14:42. > :14:47.the full title of our party is the Conservative and Unionist party. And

:14:48. > :14:53.that word Unionist is very important to me. My first visit as Prime

:14:54. > :14:57.Minister was here to Scotland. I wanted to make clear that

:14:58. > :15:02.strengthening and sustaining the bonds that unite us is a personal

:15:03. > :15:06.priority for me. I am confident about the future of our United

:15:07. > :15:10.Kingdom and optimistic about what we can achieve together at the country

:15:11. > :15:15.will stop the fundamental strengths of our union and the benefits it

:15:16. > :15:21.brings to all of its constituent parts are clear. But we all know

:15:22. > :15:26.that the SNP will never stop twisting the truth and distorting

:15:27. > :15:30.reality in their effort to denigrate our United Kingdom and further their

:15:31. > :15:35.obsession of independence. It is their single purpose in political

:15:36. > :15:39.life. And we need to be equally determined to ensure that the truth

:15:40. > :15:50.about our United Kingdom is heard loudly and clearly.

:15:51. > :15:57.As we forge a new role for ourselves in the world, the strength and

:15:58. > :16:02.stability of our union will become ever more important. We must take

:16:03. > :16:07.this opportunity, to bring our United Kingdom closer together,

:16:08. > :16:13.because the union which we care about is not simply a constitutional

:16:14. > :16:18.artefact. It is a union of people, affections and loyalties. It is

:16:19. > :16:22.characterised by sharing together as a country, the challenges which we

:16:23. > :16:29.all face, and freely pooling the resources we have to tackle them.

:16:30. > :16:36.The existence of the union rests on some simple but powerful principles.

:16:37. > :16:40.Solidarity, unity, family. Our United Kingdom has evolved over

:16:41. > :16:45.time, and has a proud history. Together, we form the world's

:16:46. > :16:50.greatest family of nations. But the real story of our union, is not to

:16:51. > :16:55.be found in treaty or acts of Parliament, it is written in our

:16:56. > :17:01.collective achievements both at home and in the world. Together, we led

:17:02. > :17:05.the world into the industrial age. From the Derbyshire Dales to the

:17:06. > :17:10.South Wales valleys and the workshops of Clydeside. British

:17:11. > :17:14.industrialists inventors and workers, charted the course to

:17:15. > :17:19.modernity and made the United Kingdom the world's engine room. The

:17:20. > :17:24.union eenabled the social scientific and economic developments which

:17:25. > :17:27.powered our collective achievement. Bringing people and communities

:17:28. > :17:33.closer together, allowed new connections to be made. The steam

:17:34. > :17:41.engine, perfected in the 1790s by a partnership between an engineer from

:17:42. > :17:47.Greenock, James watt and a manufacturer from, Matthew Bolton.

:17:48. > :17:53.The Menai straits. Collective achievement has been the story of

:17:54. > :17:58.our union ever since. Penicillin discovered in 1928 by a Scottish

:17:59. > :18:03.doctor Alexander Fleming, working in a London hospital, St Mary's. The

:18:04. > :18:08.Harry Potter books, which have sold over 500 million copies, begun in a

:18:09. > :18:14.cafe in Edinburgh by an author from Gloucestershire. That cooperation

:18:15. > :18:18.economic social and cultural, has been the bedrock our success as a

:18:19. > :18:22.union of nations and people. Together, we make up the fifth

:18:23. > :18:27.largest economy in the world. Despite accounting for less than 1 %

:18:28. > :18:32.of the world's population. Together we fought against and defeated

:18:33. > :18:37.tyranny. Ours is not a marriage of convenience. Or a fair weather

:18:38. > :18:44.friendship, but a true and enduring union. Tested in adversity and found

:18:45. > :18:49.to be true. True. And the great institutions we have built together,

:18:50. > :18:55.the pillars of our national life are the result of common endeavour. The

:18:56. > :19:00.National Health Service. The BBC. Our Armed Forces, our Parliamentary

:19:01. > :19:03.democracy, our constitution a monarchy, our commitment to rule of

:19:04. > :19:08.law, our respect for fundamental human right, all have been admired

:19:09. > :19:12.and imitated round the world. And all were crated here, as a

:19:13. > :19:19.consequence of our common life together. These achievements are the

:19:20. > :19:23.fruits of our union, they are the signs which signify its deep and

:19:24. > :19:28.fundamental strengths and we should never be shy of making that positive

:19:29. > :19:32.case for the union, because logic and facts are on our side.

:19:33. > :19:50.APPLAUSE Take the economic arguments one of

:19:51. > :19:53.driving forces be Hinds the union reaction was the logic that greater

:19:54. > :20:00.economic security came from being united. Not the trans yacht and

:20:01. > :20:04.shifting benefits of international alliance but the strength of being

:20:05. > :20:10.one people. Those enduring economic strengths are obvious. Our wholly

:20:11. > :20:13.integrated domestic market for businesses means no barriers to

:20:14. > :20:19.trade with. That has been of immense value to firms here in Scotland. The

:20:20. > :20:22.SNP point out the importance of the European market to Scottish

:20:23. > :20:26.businesses. And agree. It is important. That is why I am

:20:27. > :20:34.determined to get the best possible access to it, for Scottish firms as

:20:35. > :20:38.I am for Welsh, English and Northern Irish firm, but what the SNP don't

:20:39. > :20:45.point out is that the UK domestic market is worth four times more to

:20:46. > :20:48.Scottish firms. In fact the you've comes third, after the -- EU comes

:20:49. > :20:55.third after the rest of the UK and the rest of the world as a market

:20:56. > :20:59.for Scottish goods. Yet the SNP proposed Scottish independence which

:21:00. > :21:06.would wrench Scotland out of its biggest market. They think

:21:07. > :21:10.independence is the answer to every question in every circumstances

:21:11. > :21:15.regard also of fact and reality. It simply does not add up, and we

:21:16. > :21:32.should never stop saying so. APPLAUSE

:21:33. > :21:40.And the UK is not just a market place. The financial stability of a

:21:41. > :21:43.strong shared currency and central bank underpins all sectors of the

:21:44. > :21:49.the economy across all four nations of the UK. The broad shoulders of

:21:50. > :21:55.the world's fifth largest economy provide security for businesses and

:21:56. > :21:58.workers alike. Ten years ago, banks head quartered inned brud borough

:21:59. > :22:02.and London which employ tens of thousands of people and look after

:22:03. > :22:07.the savings of millions were rescued by the UK Treasury. Action that was

:22:08. > :22:13.only possible because of the size and strength of the British economy.

:22:14. > :22:20.In the oil and gas sector, a vital industry on the east coast from

:22:21. > :22:25.Aberdeen to Lowestoft. The shoulder of our economy have allowed the UK

:22:26. > :22:30.Government to take unprecedented action following the decline in the

:22:31. > :22:34.oil price. Public spending here in Scotland has been protected, even as

:22:35. > :22:39.North Sea tax receipts have dwindled to nothing. Time and again the

:22:40. > :22:43.benefits of the union, of doing together collectively what will be

:22:44. > :22:47.impossible to do apart are clear. Indeed the economic case for the

:22:48. > :22:52.union has never been stronger. There is no economic case for breaking up

:22:53. > :22:57.the you United Kingdom, or of losening the ties that bind us

:22:58. > :23:02.together. But the economics are only part of the story. The national

:23:03. > :23:07.security of the union in a changing world has never been more important.

:23:08. > :23:11.The United Kingdom has led the world in developing a strategy for

:23:12. > :23:16.preventing violent extremism and we are working with allies to take on

:23:17. > :23:25.and defeat the ideology of Islamistic extremism. It is firmly

:23:26. > :23:32.in our national interest to defeat Dyche that -- Daesh.

:23:33. > :23:37.And in this task we are fortunate to draw on intelligence, provided by

:23:38. > :23:42.the finest security agencies in the world and the greatest armed forced

:23:43. > :23:46.anywhere. As a permanent member of the UN

:23:47. > :23:50.Security Council, we promote peace and security round the world and

:23:51. > :23:55.help to up hold the rules based order on which they rest. As a

:23:56. > :24:01.leading member of Nato, and the foremost military power in western

:24:02. > :24:06.Europe, we are a garage toe of the freedom and democracy of our euro

:24:07. > :24:09.partners. -- guarantor. It is because we take these international

:24:10. > :24:14.obligations seriously, that the United Kingdom is one of the few

:24:15. > :24:21.countries to meet our Nato target of spending 2% of national income on

:24:22. > :24:28.defence, and our UN target to spend 0.7% of income on aid. The United

:24:29. > :24:32.Kingdom is a responsible member of the international community and

:24:33. > :24:38.Scotland makes a huge contribution the UK's role. The Department for

:24:39. > :24:42.International Development has its main head quartered in east kill

:24:43. > :24:45.Brid. From there work is can ordinated which saves lives round

:24:46. > :24:50.the world. Leading international efforts to end the outrages of

:24:51. > :24:54.female genital mutilation, child marriage and violence against women

:24:55. > :25:00.and children. The second largest donor to the Syrian crisis, helping

:25:01. > :25:04.millions of families access food, water, sanitation and shelter. Tens

:25:05. > :25:09.of millions of children around the world, immunised against preventable

:25:10. > :25:14.disease and given access to a basic education. All work grich height

:25:15. > :25:22.here in Scotland. In defence, Scotland is central to the United

:25:23. > :25:28.Kingdom's capability. HMNV Clyde is not only the home of the nuclear

:25:29. > :25:33.deterrent which keeps us safe in a changing world, by the end of 2020

:25:34. > :25:36.it will be the home of the Royal Navy's submarines, a major

:25:37. > :25:41.investment in future of the west of Scotland. This summer, the steel

:25:42. > :25:46.will begin to be cut on a new generation of Royal Navy frigates,

:25:47. > :25:56.right here in the Clyde. APPLAUSE

:25:57. > :26:04.Our great Scottish shipyards don't just have a proud past, they have a

:26:05. > :26:09.great future too. Firms like Ferguson Marine which is marrying

:26:10. > :26:12.traditional shipbuilding skills with innovation in equipment and

:26:13. > :26:17.processes. Despite the scaremongering of the SNP and their

:26:18. > :26:21.shameful attempts to use the jobs of workers as a political football,

:26:22. > :26:26.shipbuilding jobs in Scotland will be sustained, thanks to UK

:26:27. > :26:33.Government orders. APPLAUSE

:26:34. > :26:37.These practical examples of the benefit of the United Kingdom,

:26:38. > :26:43.reflect a deeper truth. The pooling and sharing of risks and resources,

:26:44. > :26:48.on the basis of need across the UK is the essence of our unity as a

:26:49. > :26:52.people. All of the practical benefits which flow from the union

:26:53. > :26:56.and which are hallmarks of out depend on that deep and essential

:26:57. > :27:04.community of interest which we all share. It has been shaped by'd I

:27:05. > :27:08.don't think few and history. It has shone itself to be adaptable.

:27:09. > :27:12.Devolution is an example of that. No-one can doubt our party's

:27:13. > :27:16.credentials on devolution. Conservatives in Government have

:27:17. > :27:22.taken through landmark pieces of legislation, to strengthen the

:27:23. > :27:29.devolution settlements: The Scotland act 2016 implemented in full the

:27:30. > :27:34.legislative emlocations of the all party Smith Commission, making the

:27:35. > :27:37.Scottish Parliament one of the most powerful devolved legislatures in

:27:38. > :27:43.the world. The comparison between a United Kingdom which has passed more

:27:44. > :27:47.powers down to it parts and a European Union which has sought to

:27:48. > :27:52.centralise more power in Brussels could not be clearer, the devolution

:27:53. > :27:58.of powers across the United Kingdom must not mean we become a loser and

:27:59. > :28:04.weaker union, we cannot alhour United Kingdom to drift apart. For

:28:05. > :28:08.too long the attitude has been to devolve and forget. As Prime

:28:09. > :28:12.Minister of the United Kingdom, I am just as concerned that young people

:28:13. > :28:17.in Dundee get a good start in life and receive the education they need

:28:18. > :28:26.to reach their full potential as I am about young people in Doncaster

:28:27. > :28:31.and Dartford. The economic prosperity of the UK as a whole

:28:32. > :28:36.depends on young people in all pars of the UK, having the skills they

:28:37. > :28:40.need to reach their full potential. And people who have worked hard all

:28:41. > :28:45.their lives and made a contribution to society, are eeeveryone's

:28:46. > :28:49.concern. It goes back to the fundamental unity of the British

:28:50. > :28:55.people, which underwrites our economies tense as a United Kingdom.

:28:56. > :29:02.We are all diminished when any part of the UK is held back, we all share

:29:03. > :29:06.in the success when we prosper, in Government, that principle is called

:29:07. > :29:10.collective responsibility. We need to build a new collective

:29:11. > :29:14.responsibility across the United Kingdom, which united all layers of

:29:15. > :29:19.Government, to works of #2i6ly together, to improve the lives of

:29:20. > :29:23.everyone in our country. As the Government serving the whole United

:29:24. > :29:28.Kingdom, formed in a Parliament, drawn from the whole United Kingdom,

:29:29. > :29:37.the UK Government exercises a responsibility on behalf of the

:29:38. > :29:42.whole UK, that transcends party politics and encompasses or life.

:29:43. > :29:48.While strengthening the devolution settlements and the devolved

:29:49. > :29:53.administrations across the UK, we must assert this fundamental

:29:54. > :29:57.responsibility on our part. So in those policy areas where we govern

:29:58. > :30:01.directly for the whole of the United Kingdom we will look to the

:30:02. > :30:07.interests of the union, both the parts and the whole, in our policy

:30:08. > :30:13.making. And in policy areas where responsibilities are devolved we

:30:14. > :30:17.will look for ways to collaborate and work together to improve the

:30:18. > :30:25.outcomes for The modern industrial strategy which

:30:26. > :30:28.the UK is consulting on is the point. This truly UK wide strategy

:30:29. > :30:32.wrapped in a new approach to government, stepping up to a new

:30:33. > :30:36.active role that backs businesses and ensures people in all parts of

:30:37. > :30:42.the UK share in the benefits of economic success. Scotland stand to

:30:43. > :30:47.benefit from this new approach, whether it is shipbuilding, oil and

:30:48. > :30:52.gas or food and drink exports, Scotland has huge industrial

:30:53. > :30:56.potential. In those areas where the UK Government holds the policy

:30:57. > :31:00.levers, we will use them wisely, to the benefit of Scottish firms and

:31:01. > :31:03.workers. Where the Scottish Government holds the levers in areas

:31:04. > :31:07.like skills and infrastructure, we will seek to work with them to

:31:08. > :31:13.ensure the best outcomes for Scotland. At all times we will seek

:31:14. > :31:26.to strengthen and enhance the ties that bind us together. APPLAUSE

:31:27. > :31:32.And I am determined to ensure that as we leave the EU, we do so as one

:31:33. > :31:37.United Kingdom, which prospers outside the EU as one United

:31:38. > :31:42.Kingdom. That means achieving a deal with the EU which works for all

:31:43. > :31:46.parts of the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and for

:31:47. > :31:51.the United Kingdom as a whole also and when the UK Government begins

:31:52. > :31:56.negotiations with the EU on Brexit, we will do so in the interests all

:31:57. > :31:59.parts of the UK and of the UK as a whole. That is what I mean by

:32:00. > :32:05.governing for the whole United Kingdom. And as well as ensuring

:32:06. > :32:10.that we get the best possible deal from Brexit, we also need to ensure

:32:11. > :32:14.that the United Kingdom can operate as effectively as possible in the

:32:15. > :32:20.future. The UK devolution settlements were designed in 1998

:32:21. > :32:24.without any thought of potential Brexit, in areas like agriculture,

:32:25. > :32:28.fisheries and the environment the devolution settlement in effect

:32:29. > :32:32.devolved to the legislatures of Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast the

:32:33. > :32:36.power to EU directives in these areas within a common EU framework.

:32:37. > :32:40.The essential common standards which underpin the operation of a single

:32:41. > :32:47.market were provided at the European level. As we bring powers and

:32:48. > :32:51.control back to the UK, we must ensure that the right powers sit at

:32:52. > :32:56.the right level to ensure our United Kingdom can operate effectively and

:32:57. > :33:01.in the interests of all its citizens including people in Scotland. We

:33:02. > :33:06.must also ensure that the UK which emerges from the EU is able to

:33:07. > :33:12.strike the best possible trade deals internationally. In short, we must

:33:13. > :33:15.avoid any unintended consequences for the coherence and integrity of a

:33:16. > :33:22.devolved United Kingdom as a result of our leaving the EU. As I have

:33:23. > :33:26.made clear repeatedly, no decisions currently taken by the Scottish

:33:27. > :33:31.parliament will be removed from them. While the SNP propose that

:33:32. > :33:35.decision-making should remain in Brussels, we will use the

:33:36. > :33:39.opportunity Brexit to ensure that more decisions are devolved back

:33:40. > :33:50.into the hands of the Scottish. APPLAUSE

:33:51. > :33:57.Our aim will be to achieve the most effective arrangements to maintain

:33:58. > :34:02.and strengthen the United Kingdom while also respecting the devolution

:34:03. > :34:06.settlements and we will work constructively with the devolved

:34:07. > :34:10.administrations on that basis. But unlike any of the individual

:34:11. > :34:15.devolved administrations, the United Kingdom Parliament elected by the

:34:16. > :34:21.whole UK and the UK Government serves the whole UK. That place is

:34:22. > :34:24.on as a unique responsibility to preserve the integrity and future

:34:25. > :34:30.viability of the United Kingdom, which we will not shirk. And I

:34:31. > :34:36.believe that the opportunities which Brexit presents for all parts of the

:34:37. > :34:42.UK are real. Take Scotch whiskey. A truly great Scottish and British

:34:43. > :34:47.industry, adding ?5 billion to the UK economy annually, and now the

:34:48. > :34:51.largest net contributor to the UK's trade balance in goods. If directly

:34:52. > :34:56.supports tens of thousands of jobs from farmers in the Highlands to

:34:57. > :35:01.ceramics workers in Stoke. After Brexit its potential for growth in

:35:02. > :35:07.exports across the world is immense. India, our Commonwealth partner, is

:35:08. > :35:15.one of the world's largest spirits markets. But within the EU, Scotch

:35:16. > :35:21.whiskey faces a tariff of 150% for selling to India. And Scotch Whisky,

:35:22. > :35:25.the world's pre-eminent spirit, as just a 1% share of the Indian

:35:26. > :35:38.market. I am determined that we should do better than that for our

:35:39. > :35:42.key industries. APPLAUSE That's why I lead a major trade

:35:43. > :35:49.delegation to India last year and why I was delighted to take the

:35:50. > :35:55.Scotch Whisky Association with me. Purely for trading purposes! This

:35:56. > :36:02.underlines the potential which exists for Scottish business at the

:36:03. > :36:07.UK embarks on a new global role and free trading nation and it is an

:36:08. > :36:13.opportunity we should seize as one strong United Kingdom. It is in the

:36:14. > :36:16.interest of everyone in our country that we seize those opportunities

:36:17. > :36:20.and make a success of what lies ahead. Because politics is not a

:36:21. > :36:26.game and government is not a platform for which to pursue

:36:27. > :36:32.constitutional obsessions. It is about taking the serious decisions

:36:33. > :36:36.to improve people's lives. A tunnel vision nationalism which focuses

:36:37. > :36:38.only on independence at any cost sells Scotland short. APPLAUSE

:36:39. > :36:55.Yellow As unionists, our job is clear. We

:36:56. > :37:00.know we are united together by a proud, shared history but we are

:37:01. > :37:04.also bound together by enduring common interests. The United Kingdom

:37:05. > :37:09.we cherish is not a thing of the past but a union vital to our

:37:10. > :37:13.prosperity and security, today and in the future. The union I am

:37:14. > :37:19.determined to strengthen and sustain is one that works for working people

:37:20. > :37:23.across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, UK to which

:37:24. > :37:27.everyone can feel secure in. A union in which our national and local

:37:28. > :37:33.identities are recognised and respected but where our common bonds

:37:34. > :37:43.are strengthened. Where different and diversity are celebrated but

:37:44. > :37:48.where those things we share our people, a unity of interests, Al

:37:49. > :37:52.Kellock and principles. This transcends politics and

:37:53. > :37:58.institutions, the Constitution and the economy, it is about the values

:37:59. > :38:02.we share in our family of nations. Our polling and sharing of risks and

:38:03. > :38:09.resources, our social and economic solidarity, social union is the glue

:38:10. > :38:12.which holds us together. But we should never forget that the people

:38:13. > :38:18.who benefit the most from solidarity across the United Kingdom are not

:38:19. > :38:29.the strong and be successful but the poorest and most vulnerable in our

:38:30. > :38:37.society. APPLAUSE We are four nations but at heart we

:38:38. > :38:43.are one people. That solidarity is the essence of our United Kingdom

:38:44. > :38:47.and is the surest, -- or the surest safeguard of our future. Let us live

:38:48. > :38:53.up to the high ideals and let us never stop making loudly and clearly

:38:54. > :38:58.the positive, optimistic and passionate case for our precious

:38:59. > :39:06.union of nations and of people. Thank you. APPLAUSE

:39:07. > :39:11.Theresa May speaking at the Scottish Conservative conference talking

:39:12. > :39:15.about the importance of the union as we prepare to leave the EU. There

:39:16. > :39:19.will be more analysis of her speech on newsroom live from 11 o'clock

:39:20. > :39:23.including reaction from the SNP. Head-butted, spat at

:39:24. > :39:24.and verbally abused. My next guest - who referees amateur

:39:25. > :39:28.football matches - is not alone. This weekend, thousands of amateur

:39:29. > :39:30.referees are planning a strike in protest at the treatment

:39:31. > :39:32.they receive on the pitch. Ryan Hampson - who has

:39:33. > :39:34.organised the walk-out - says more than 2,000 people up

:39:35. > :39:37.and down the country We can speak to Ryan Hampson

:39:38. > :39:46.who organised the walk-out, chief executive of the charity

:39:47. > :39:57.Ref Support, who does not think Tell us why you have organised this

:39:58. > :40:01.strike. It is because referees up and down the country are getting

:40:02. > :40:08.abused and assaulted on a regular basis. Myself included. Tell us what

:40:09. > :40:13.has happened to you. I have been head-butted, punched and spat at.

:40:14. > :40:20.And who is doing that? It is players on a Sunday league pitch. You are

:40:21. > :40:25.18, how old are the players? It varies from 16 right the way through

:40:26. > :40:31.to 40 or 50. Give us some more specifics on these sorts of things.

:40:32. > :40:35.I was doing a match a few months ago and a player disagreed with one of

:40:36. > :40:40.my decisions and he has come up to me in my face and put his head

:40:41. > :40:49.towards mine and pushed me, pushed me flat on the chest. He didn't get

:40:50. > :40:56.banned for it. It is upsetting, it really is. You are organising the

:40:57. > :40:59.strike and is get this issue out there and people are talking about

:41:00. > :41:06.it but before this, what have you done to try to get this issue looked

:41:07. > :41:09.at? I have been and spoke to my county FA, to several people, and I

:41:10. > :41:15.kept getting ignored and getting the door shut in my face and that is

:41:16. > :41:22.where the charity I am an ambassador for, they got involved, Recari

:41:23. > :41:29.Support Uk and said we can help you out. -- Referee. They are not for

:41:30. > :41:32.the strike but I am and we have got it going and there are over 2000

:41:33. > :41:39.involved. Today is a prime example. Leandro Bacuna, who barged into an

:41:40. > :41:47.assistant referee, has only been given a six-game ban by the FA and

:41:48. > :41:52.to me that is madness. Martin Cassidy is the Chief Executive of

:41:53. > :41:58.the charity, Referee Support so how much of a problem is it? It is

:41:59. > :42:03.becoming more common. The FA released some statement which said

:42:04. > :42:06.there were 111 cases of assault nationwide. We're not sure if that

:42:07. > :42:14.is over a year or a football season but if you dig into those figures,

:42:15. > :42:17.52 weeks, that is over two per week and that in itself tells us this is

:42:18. > :42:22.on the increase and we have to do something about it. As Ryan said, we

:42:23. > :42:25.are not in favour of the strike but we are in favour of doing something

:42:26. > :42:32.about the reasons for it. We have asked to change policies and

:42:33. > :42:35.processes, ask for banning orders, talking to MPs and councillors to

:42:36. > :42:40.try to get changes for bringing stuff outside football, measures

:42:41. > :42:50.into bubble gum like banning orders. It is ridiculous to think you can

:42:51. > :42:57.streak on a pitch and you get banned from every football ground in Great

:42:58. > :43:00.Britain but if you are in a fight in the ground, you will get banned from

:43:01. > :43:05.every ground but if you had but the referee, you don't so we should

:43:06. > :43:11.bring in the same banning orders for when players commit violent as for

:43:12. > :43:14.when fans commit it. Obviously you are concerned this is not being

:43:15. > :43:18.taken seriously enough so what is the way to focus attention if you

:43:19. > :43:23.don't support the strike? We're not support it but we support the

:43:24. > :43:31.reasons for it. How do you get change to actually happen? What was

:43:32. > :43:34.a wonderful progressive move was that the FA invited Ryan to when the

:43:35. > :43:38.stadium and we went with him to represent him and give him some

:43:39. > :43:43.support and we talked about changes in policy and process. Such as when

:43:44. > :43:46.the county FAs received a written report from a referee who has been

:43:47. > :43:50.assaulted, that should immediately go to the police. At the moment, the

:43:51. > :43:55.onus is on the rhetoric and when you are from a background like Ryan, a

:43:56. > :43:58.council estate in Manchester, the ramifications are going to the

:43:59. > :44:03.police will last you a lifetime -- with the onus is on the police. We

:44:04. > :44:06.should take it away from the referee, the county FA should

:44:07. > :44:10.forward it to the police and it should go back the match officials

:44:11. > :44:16.and things can be sorted that way. It sounds like you are being

:44:17. > :44:20.listened to at quite a high level? Yeah, listened, but no action has

:44:21. > :44:27.been taken yet. I have another meeting with the FA with the new

:44:28. > :44:32.respect officer, Nathan French, who has not met a referee from

:44:33. > :44:36.grassroots level before. That is a good move but I'm just hoping it is

:44:37. > :44:39.more progressive and more positive than the last meeting because I did

:44:40. > :44:43.not get much out of it. I will not sit here and lie about it, we have

:44:44. > :44:49.got another meeting and hopefully this next one is important. We do

:44:50. > :44:55.want change, we want referees to be able to wear body cameras and on the

:44:56. > :45:01.6th of March, the FA have the referees committee meeting and they

:45:02. > :45:04.will be bringing up the issue surrounding body cameras. They will

:45:05. > :45:09.be speaking more detail in March so when we have the meeting with the FA

:45:10. > :45:11.in Manchester, hopefully were at more to say. We'll check in with you

:45:12. > :45:22.after that. Thank you. First, the exclusive story

:45:23. > :45:24.of a young Syrian who had Sama - which is not his real name -

:45:25. > :45:29.travelled more than three thousand miles and across ten countries

:45:30. > :45:31.to escape death threats. The 17-year-old is now starting

:45:32. > :45:35.a new life in the UK and is facing the sorts of issues most teenagers

:45:36. > :45:37.in this country might When I was child, and because am

:45:38. > :45:43.gay, and I keep secret, I heard my dad, sometimes he speaks

:45:44. > :45:47.with his friends, sometimes talk about gay, like kill him

:45:48. > :45:51.or put him in jail. They can't imagine

:45:52. > :45:55.have gay in the world. And he told me, go out home,

:45:56. > :46:05.you are not my son. I took boat from Turkey and I saw 54

:46:06. > :46:08.people inside and children, When I saw these people,

:46:09. > :46:19.I said, I don't want to go and he has a gun and he says,

:46:20. > :46:23.if I don't go, maybe he'd kill me. Between country and country

:46:24. > :46:34.and sleeping in street and jungle. I just have a little

:46:35. > :46:36.bread and some dates. I left Turkey to Greece

:46:37. > :46:41.and Greece to Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary, Austria,

:46:42. > :46:50.Germany, France and the UK. I had interview for refugee to stay

:46:51. > :46:53.here and I told them I'm gay so I can't go back to Syria

:46:54. > :46:57.because the war and because I'm gay but they don't believe me, like,

:46:58. > :47:00.they want to see my Facebook, Like a lot of question like,

:47:01. > :47:12.I feel like horrible, like why They told me, don't worry,

:47:13. > :47:30.you are safe here and I told I'm gay and they say,

:47:31. > :47:33.this isn't a problem. It's a really lovely family,

:47:34. > :47:41.I really love them. It is my first time here,

:47:42. > :47:44.to seem like a lot of gays, lesbian here and everybody

:47:45. > :47:54.is like crazy, dancing, drinking. I've got friends in Syria,

:47:55. > :48:00.my friend in my school but because he just say,

:48:01. > :48:03.I don't like Isis, the next day they took him and they put him

:48:04. > :48:06.like in middle of street. I miss everything in Syria

:48:07. > :48:14.but when I saw the news, the pictures in my city,

:48:15. > :48:16.it's so hard. I'm really grateful

:48:17. > :48:17.about this nice family. Sometimes I feel like I am

:48:18. > :48:19.now friends, family, The number of people

:48:20. > :48:49.on controversial zero hours The figures now stands at 910,000

:48:50. > :48:53.people on the zero hours contract That's 110,000 more people

:48:54. > :49:01.on contracts that do not guarantee That's an increase of nearly 14%

:49:02. > :49:05.and 30% higher than 2014. To put it into prospective in 2005 -

:49:06. > :49:08.just 100,000 people Let's discuss this now

:49:09. > :49:17.with Conor D'Arcy from the Resolution Foundation who's

:49:18. > :49:19.researched the long term future Kate Bell who is Head

:49:20. > :49:23.of Economics and Social Affairs And Diane Cawood who works on a zero

:49:24. > :49:27.hours contract for the NHS. She use to work full time but says

:49:28. > :49:35.that a zero hours contract Thank you for joining us. Connor,

:49:36. > :49:40.it's a record high, but at a slower growth in the -- number, tell us

:49:41. > :49:46.more about the overall picture. When we compare it to the last few months

:49:47. > :49:50.of 2015. That growth has been over 100,000. When we focussed on the

:49:51. > :49:55.last six months of 2016, that growth is slower, less than an extra 10,000

:49:56. > :50:00.people. Partly that is probably because of slower employment growth

:50:01. > :50:05.we have seen, but it, there is probably other things behind this,

:50:06. > :50:12.like employers deciding it isn't for them any more. Kate, you are sorry,

:50:13. > :50:20.not Kate, Diane, you have on a zero hours contract and you don't like it

:50:21. > :50:24.I do. Tell us why? It gives me a greater degree of flexibility. It am

:50:25. > :50:30.studying to be a nurse, it fits round my study, my partner is ill so

:50:31. > :50:34.if I need to drop down my hours I have the flexibility to do that,

:50:35. > :50:38.that said there are negative aspects, for example I don't get an

:50:39. > :50:43.average of my unsocial hours payments on annual leave, which the

:50:44. > :50:48.full-time people do. I don't get the same sick pay that full-time people

:50:49. > :50:51.do either, and if I found myself suspended I would get no money

:50:52. > :50:57.whereas somebody who is full-time would get their salary. OK, and Kate

:50:58. > :51:03.Bell you from the TUC, you don't like them? We do think there is some

:51:04. > :51:07.people for whom it works but for a huge number of people on the

:51:08. > :51:12.contracts they cause problem, like not knowing how many hours you will

:51:13. > :51:17.be working, problems like missing out on key rights that most people

:51:18. > :51:21.expect at work so the write to a written statement of terms and

:51:22. > :51:26.conditions, the right to sick pay you can miss out on some time, or

:51:27. > :51:30.the right to some key family friendly rights so the right to

:51:31. > :51:36.return to the same job after maternity leave or to request

:51:37. > :51:40.flexible learning. Connor, you said about the possibly the reasons for

:51:41. > :51:45.why number of people going on zero hours contracts is slowing, in terms

:51:46. > :51:52.of predicting where it is going, it is difficult, but it has become a

:51:53. > :51:58.very publicised issue in terms of what the politicians are doing it is

:51:59. > :52:04.an area that is being looked at. The Prime Minister has in some of her

:52:05. > :52:09.first speeches raised this issue of insecurity at work, there is a

:52:10. > :52:13.similar number of people on agency contracts which can be insecure and

:52:14. > :52:17.lack basic rights so I think in the future, there is things that could

:52:18. > :52:20.be done, if you are on a zero -- zero hours contract long-term, I

:52:21. > :52:24.don't think it is extreme to say you should be given a fixed number of

:52:25. > :52:30.hours that reflect the number you have been working, I think is one of

:52:31. > :52:35.the directions we need to look down, keeping this discussion beyond just

:52:36. > :52:45.zero hours contract and across insecure work is important. We heard

:52:46. > :52:51.from Diane who likes them. Tree say says my experience is a different

:52:52. > :52:55.one. My partner has refusal of annual leave payment, there is no

:52:56. > :52:59.Government monitoring on company, no checks on rules and regulations

:53:00. > :53:03.being properly followed. Kate, in terms of what the Government is

:53:04. > :53:08.going to be doing, to look at this, in the budget it is expected that

:53:09. > :53:13.the Chancellor might outline plans for workers on score roar hours

:53:14. > :53:17.contracts to pay if same tax adds workers who are employed, do you

:53:18. > :53:24.think the Government is looking at it the right way. We are glad they

:53:25. > :53:30.have said that. Will that stop employers... The key is what changes

:53:31. > :53:34.employer behaviour, as Diane explains, sometimes flexibility can

:53:35. > :53:38.be good, we think it is employers driving this and pushing the costs

:53:39. > :53:43.on to workers and away from their cost, we think that is a simple step

:53:44. > :53:47.the Government could take, it could guarantee it won't use zero hours

:53:48. > :53:51.contract in its supply chains, as Connor set out we do think that

:53:52. > :53:56.people who are working regular hours should have a regular contract. Then

:53:57. > :54:01.it is about what rights people on the more insecure types of work get,

:54:02. > :54:07.making sure that everyone has a day one right to protection from unfair

:54:08. > :54:11.dismissal. An written statement of your terms and conditions, and we do

:54:12. > :54:16.think the Government needs to step up here, to tackle this huge right

:54:17. > :54:17.in zero hours contracts where we see nearly one million people on them

:54:18. > :54:30.today. Thank you all very much. So big announcement,

:54:31. > :54:32.what do we think of the new concept and will it be able

:54:33. > :54:34.to compete with Bake-Off? Frances Taylor is the TV Critic

:54:35. > :54:37.for the Radio Times and Bake-Off fan, and Chetna Makan,

:54:38. > :54:49.Bake-Off semi-finalist in 2014. The big family cooking somehow down

:54:50. > :55:01.will be going up against Bake Off. What do we make of the new concept?

:55:02. > :55:07.Thank you both very much for joining us. So, Frances, what do you think?

:55:08. > :55:10.I have to say, I am not too impressed which doesn't sound good.

:55:11. > :55:14.We don't know that much. The problem is the thing with Bake Off it was so

:55:15. > :55:20.magical, because nobody sat down in a room and said let's create the

:55:21. > :55:26.biggest show on tell Vicks. It was a happy accident. You don't sit down

:55:27. > :55:31.to create something that is not going to be a disaster. There wasn't

:55:32. > :55:36.a legacy behind it when it launched. It came on to BBC Two and it was an

:55:37. > :55:41.underground hit and people found it and it grew, the problem is the BBC

:55:42. > :55:44.is saying this is going to be the new Bake Off, put Nadiya on, it is

:55:45. > :55:49.not going to have the same impact. Let us talk to kept that, so het

:55:50. > :55:53.that, you were a Bake Off semifinalist in 2014. There is going

:55:54. > :55:58.to be a huge amount of expectation round this new format, which is

:55:59. > :56:06.going to be focussed on family, of course by the title. What to you

:56:07. > :56:10.think about it? I think that it definitely cannot, and you know, I

:56:11. > :56:15.don't know what will happen once it is on air, right now, it doesn't

:56:16. > :56:19.look like it can be compared to Bake Off at all, because it has no kind

:56:20. > :56:24.of, other than there are four people, on the face of it, there are

:56:25. > :56:28.no other similar particularities to the Bake Off, so I don't know, but

:56:29. > :56:33.it might still be a really good show to watch. When you were on the Bake

:56:34. > :56:37.Off, obviously it was already a big deal. How much of a factor in its

:56:38. > :56:42.success do you think was the fact that as we were haring from Frances,

:56:43. > :56:46.it started very quietly and it slowly builds. It is nice when you

:56:47. > :56:51.feel like you are in on something from the start and invest in it.

:56:52. > :56:56.There is not an expectation from the outset you will like it. Yes, I

:56:57. > :57:00.totally agree with that fact, you know, people didn't know what, what

:57:01. > :57:08.they were going to be watching and the first two series were so slow to

:57:09. > :57:13.start off. But it was such a simple, a heart-warming programme, and like

:57:14. > :57:16.Frances said there were no expectations and every year after

:57:17. > :57:23.year, people didn't know what to expect. Expect. Just people fell in

:57:24. > :57:30.love with the four, you know, Mary, Paul, Mel and Sue so the chemistry

:57:31. > :57:34.was amazing, but this new format that has come out, there are four

:57:35. > :57:37.people, we don't know whether they will work together, because they

:57:38. > :57:41.haven't worked together before. We don't know, really whacks is going

:57:42. > :57:46.to happen. We will have to wait and see, thank you both very much.

:57:47. > :57:49.Chetna and Frances, we have a bit more time. So Frances, tell me

:57:50. > :57:55.quickly what you think about the line up? It's a good line up. I

:57:56. > :57:58.would say that, but when we have so many cooking shows, the beauty of

:57:59. > :58:03.Bake Off is it brought something different, we have so many cooking

:58:04. > :58:07.shows, so, to just commission another one, seems... Not one round

:58:08. > :58:13.family. Again with Bake Off when we got to know the individuals that was

:58:14. > :58:18.fantastic. This she it will be about 80 contestant so you won't get to

:58:19. > :58:22.know them. Thank you very much for your company today. News room live

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