08/03/2017

:00:08. > :00:12.It's Wednesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:13. > :00:20.Our top story today - is the budget - and importantly -

:00:21. > :00:22.how what the Government announce in a couple of hours

:00:23. > :00:25.Who better to tell you that this morning

:00:26. > :00:31.Stand by for no big spending spree as a careful, cautious Philip

:00:32. > :00:33.Hammond keeps back the cash for difficult days ahead over Brexit,

:00:34. > :00:36.and the deficit. Also on the programme -

:00:37. > :00:39.spies inside your TVs. Yes, claims that the CIA had

:00:40. > :00:52.the technology to hack into smart It seems to be an incredibly

:00:53. > :00:56.dabbling leak in terms of the procedures, tactics and tools that

:00:57. > :00:58.were used by the central intelligence to conduct legitimate

:00:59. > :01:00.foreign intelligence. In other words it made my country and my country's

:01:01. > :01:02.friends less safe. And why would anyone

:01:03. > :01:04.want to volunteer for Especially after the so called

:01:05. > :01:08.elephant man trials of a decade ago This morning we'll bring

:01:09. > :01:12.you exclusive access inside a trial where people are volunteering

:01:13. > :01:21.to test an ebola vaccine. There is a lot of us who realise

:01:22. > :01:26.that there are a lot of medical issues in the world and we would

:01:27. > :01:31.like to help, but instead of giving the money to charities where we

:01:32. > :01:36.don't necessarily see exactly what's happening, with a medical trial we

:01:37. > :01:40.can see that they're working towards something and we're actually a part

:01:41. > :01:42.of it rather than just giving our money to someone and saying, "There

:01:43. > :01:53.you go. Just go and do whatever." A little later in the programme

:01:54. > :02:00.we'll meet a 21-year-old man Hear his moving story

:02:01. > :02:07.just before 10am. Do get in touch on all the stories

:02:08. > :02:10.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria live

:02:11. > :02:13.and if you text, you will be charged Our top story today,

:02:14. > :02:16.the Chancellor Philip Hammond will use his first Budget to help

:02:17. > :02:19.prepare Britain for a "new chapter" He'll deliver an upbeat

:02:20. > :02:22.assessment of the economy when he stands up at lunchtime,

:02:23. > :02:25.but will admit that many families He's expected to find extra money

:02:26. > :02:29.for social care in England and to help firms facing steep rises

:02:30. > :02:31.in business rates. Here's our political

:02:32. > :02:38.correspondent Eleanor Garnier. He's the man known in Westminster

:02:39. > :02:40.as Spreadsheet Phil, the cautious Treasury Chief

:02:41. > :02:43.in charge of the numbers. So, as the Chancellor does his sums,

:02:44. > :02:45.what's he got to consider? Well, the big issue that's

:02:46. > :02:48.dominating is Brexit. As the UK prepares to leave the EU,

:02:49. > :02:51.Mr Hammond says he's focussed on keeping the economy resilient

:02:52. > :02:54.with a warning this is no time Even so, there will be cash

:02:55. > :03:02.for new free schools and money to shake up vocational and technical

:03:03. > :03:10.training for 16 to 18-year-olds. But the Chancellor's under pressure

:03:11. > :03:12.to spend more on public services with claims social care is in crisis

:03:13. > :03:15.and repeated calls for more money for the NHS plus pleas to help

:03:16. > :03:19.soften the blow for small firms hit But the Chancellor's under pressure

:03:20. > :03:31.to spend more on public services Mr Hammond might have chucked

:03:32. > :03:33.out his predecessor's timetable for dealing with the deficit,

:03:34. > :03:36.but both he and the Prime Minister still believe balancing the books

:03:37. > :03:39.is the only way to ensure a stable Let's get more on this from our

:03:40. > :03:57.political guru Norman Smith. This, I mean it is his first Budget.

:03:58. > :04:00.It is a big deal? Well, you might think it would be, but I suspect

:04:01. > :04:03.it's going to be a bit like the weather here, damp, drizzly, dull,

:04:04. > :04:08.something you're not going to remember and the reason for that

:04:09. > :04:15.frankly is he just hasn't got any cash because he is still having to

:04:16. > :04:20.deal with a great deficit. We spent something like 60 billion mds more

:04:21. > :04:24.than we had last year. Our debt is ?1.7 trillion. So there is no cash

:04:25. > :04:30.around, but also, there is the Brexit factor. Mr Hammond wants to

:04:31. > :04:34.keep any money he has got spare back in case things get difficult down

:04:35. > :04:37.the road with Brexit which means we'll get some little bits and

:04:38. > :04:41.pieces. There has been talk about help for social care because of all

:04:42. > :04:45.the terrible headlines we've read about the problems in social care,

:04:46. > :04:49.but it is not going to be much and I think we'll have to look carefully

:04:50. > :04:53.whether that money has just come from cuts elsewhere. Similarly,

:04:54. > :04:59.business rates. We know the business community have been up in arms about

:05:00. > :05:02.the huge hike in local business rates that many traders are facing.

:05:03. > :05:05.I think you'll find there is only a little bit of help for some

:05:06. > :05:09.particular high street traders who have been hit hard. So there will be

:05:10. > :05:16.a few bits and pieces, but my thinking this is going to be a sort

:05:17. > :05:18.of Mother Hubbard Budget. There isn't much cash in the cupboard for

:05:19. > :05:23.Mr Hammond to hand out. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:05:24. > :05:26.Newsroom with a summary Lord Heseltine has been sacked

:05:27. > :05:30.as a Government adviser after rebelling in a vote over

:05:31. > :05:32.Brexit. The former Conservative Deputy Prime

:05:33. > :05:35.Minister backed calls for a "meaningful" parliamentary

:05:36. > :05:38.vote on the final terms of withdrawal, inflicting

:05:39. > :05:41.a second defeat in the Lords Ministers say they'll seek

:05:42. > :05:46.to overturn the move when the bill Here's our political

:05:47. > :05:48.correspondent, Chris Mason. Just like Ken Clarke in the Commons,

:05:49. > :05:55.Lord Heseltine was determined to remain vociferously pro-European

:05:56. > :05:59.after the referendum, It ensures that Parliament has

:06:00. > :06:04.the critical role in determining the future that we will bequeath

:06:05. > :06:08.to generations of young people and I urge your Lordships

:06:09. > :06:16.to support the amendment. But, hours later, he learned he had

:06:17. > :06:21.been fired from five This is the Prime Minister

:06:22. > :06:29.exercising her perfectly legitimate right to get rid of opposition

:06:30. > :06:32.in any way she thinks appropriate Whether it's the right

:06:33. > :06:36.and the wise thing to do is a matter for her,

:06:37. > :06:42.not for me. His sacking illustrates

:06:43. > :06:44.Downing Street's determination to Next week the Bill heads down

:06:45. > :06:51.the corridor, back to the Commons. Will Conservative rebels

:06:52. > :06:56.there be up for a fight? I will continue to believe that

:06:57. > :07:00.that is the right thing to do, for there to be a vote in both

:07:01. > :07:03.Houses, deal or no deal and, if I have to vote

:07:04. > :07:05.against my Government again, We've discussed, deliberated

:07:06. > :07:12.and scrutinised both of these issues before,

:07:13. > :07:14.at length, and we still declined to accept the amendments that have

:07:15. > :07:19.been passed in the House of Lords. They've come up with no new ideas

:07:20. > :07:24.so I expect the House of Commons Whatever happens next week,

:07:25. > :07:30.the Prime Minister does remain on course to be able to begin Brexit

:07:31. > :07:32.negotiations before A former head of the CIA has said

:07:33. > :07:46.an apparent leak of thousands of the agency's files

:07:47. > :07:52.is incredibly damaging. The documents, which have been

:07:53. > :07:54.published by the website WikiLeaks, appear to reveal attempts to hack

:07:55. > :07:57.into electronic devices One file suggests the CIA and MI5

:07:58. > :08:01.had discovered how to record conversations using a microphone

:08:02. > :08:03.in a Samsung smart TV even when it The CIA have refused to comment

:08:04. > :08:10.on the documents authenticity. But the agency's former director,

:08:11. > :08:13.Michael Hayden said This seems to be an incredibly

:08:14. > :08:21.damaging leak in terms of the tactics, techniques,

:08:22. > :08:23.procedures and tools that were used by the Central Intelligence Agency

:08:24. > :08:25.to conduct legitimate foreign In other words, it's made my country

:08:26. > :08:33.and my country's friends less safe. Police searching for missing RAF

:08:34. > :08:37.gunner Corrie McKeague are investigating whether a bin

:08:38. > :08:39.lorry is linked The vehicle was spotted

:08:40. > :08:42.near where the 23-year-old was last seen and carried a much heavier load

:08:43. > :08:45.than first thought. A search of a landfill site

:08:46. > :08:47.in Cambridgeshire is underway. Mr McKeague was last seen on a night

:08:48. > :08:54.out on 24th September. A British backpacker

:08:55. > :08:57.who was allegedly held captive for weeks and subjected to repeated

:08:58. > :09:00.sexual assaults, has been released The 22-year-old woman

:09:01. > :09:06.is being comforted by her family, A 22-year-old Australian

:09:07. > :09:10.man has been charged with a number of offences,

:09:11. > :09:15.and has been remanded in custody. The number of women getting top jobs

:09:16. > :09:18.at sporting bodies is declining, The Women in Sport study found just

:09:19. > :09:23.under half of organisations have failed to meet new government

:09:24. > :09:25.guidelines calling for senior The profile of women playing sport

:09:26. > :09:40.has never been higher. But step off the pitch

:09:41. > :09:42.and into the boardroom, Today, the charity Women in Sport

:09:43. > :09:48.released an audit of 68 national governing bodies

:09:49. > :09:51.receiving public money. They found that nearly half didn't

:09:52. > :09:56.meet the new target of 30% gender diversity on their boards including

:09:57. > :09:58.those in football, cricket, Nine had no women at all

:09:59. > :10:04.in senior leadership roles, while one organisation,

:10:05. > :10:08.the British Tae Kwon Do Council, has Public investment in sport,

:10:09. > :10:17.in any sports organisation, is dependent on organisations

:10:18. > :10:19.reaching the standards of the code. So anybody who isn't able

:10:20. > :10:21.to reach them, or doesn't have an adequate plan to do so,

:10:22. > :10:24.won't be able to attract The FA has long been criticised

:10:25. > :10:28.for failing to move with the times. Faced with having millions

:10:29. > :10:30.of pounds of funding cut, this week it proposed reforms

:10:31. > :10:34.to appoint more women to its board. England Hockey also needs

:10:35. > :10:36.to diversify, although their CEO told me they will have no problem

:10:37. > :10:43.meeting the new Government target. We will, over time,

:10:44. > :10:50.as board members leave, look at recruiting people that

:10:51. > :10:53.still meet the skillset, but enable us to meet the recommendations

:10:54. > :10:56.within the guidelines. We will, over time,

:10:57. > :11:00.as board members leave, Now, they are being told to better

:11:01. > :11:07.reflect the people who fund them. Chocolate bars like Kit Kat,

:11:08. > :11:10.Yorkie and Aero will contain 10% The manufacturer Nestle says sugar

:11:11. > :11:17.will be replaced with higher quantities of existing ingredients

:11:18. > :11:19.or other non-artificial ingredients and claims it

:11:20. > :11:21.could have a significant impact Visitors on a tour of

:11:22. > :11:28.the White House were given a surprise when President Trump

:11:29. > :11:31.turned up to greet them" In the first tour of the White House

:11:32. > :11:33.since his inauguration, he gestured for the children

:11:34. > :11:36.in the crowd to come He posed with one boy under

:11:37. > :11:39.a portrait of his election That's a summary of the latest BBC

:11:40. > :11:56.News - more at 9:30am. We're going to talk about spying

:11:57. > :12:01.software in your smart TV. Those claims which have comes through

:12:02. > :12:05.thousands of documents leaked to the wicky leeks website are taken as

:12:06. > :12:09.pretty credible. We'll talk more about that in a second. If you're

:12:10. > :12:13.getting in touch, you're welcome. Use the hashtag Victoria live and

:12:14. > :12:16.you will be charged the standard network rate.

:12:17. > :12:35.It's Arsene Wenger's future in the headlines again.

:12:36. > :12:37.Well, the pressure builds and builds on Arsene Wenger.

:12:38. > :12:41.I'd love to say we should have some remorse for him after so many

:12:42. > :12:43.accolades in his 20 years at the club, but the empire he built

:12:44. > :12:48.There are more calls and increased fervour for him to leave Arsenal,

:12:49. > :12:50.after they were knocked out of the Champions League last 16

:12:51. > :12:52.by German giants Bayern Munich, in humiliating fashion.

:12:53. > :12:55.A second 5-1 defeat meant they lost 10-2 on aggregate.

:12:56. > :12:57.That's the worst defeat suffered by an English

:12:58. > :13:01.They were reduced to ten men on the night, but it didn't really

:13:02. > :13:08.Their capitulation led to chants of "Wenger Out"

:13:09. > :13:10.inside of the Emirates Stadium, on what was a chastening night

:13:11. > :13:14.And those protests spilled out onto the streets

:13:15. > :13:16.of North London last night, with thousands of fans

:13:17. > :13:23.Wet want you to go. We want Wenger out!

:13:24. > :13:25.They demanded an answer from their greatest ever boss,

:13:26. > :13:28.Arsene Wenger, who was asked if it was his final Champions League

:13:29. > :13:39.I don't know. You always are worried for headlines. I'm here to speak

:13:40. > :13:43.about football, not about my future. What needs to change at this club,

:13:44. > :13:48.what do you mean by that? I think this club is in a great shape. At

:13:49. > :13:54.the moment it is going through a very difficult situation, but so

:13:55. > :14:09.what needs to change is the result in the next game.

:14:10. > :14:15.I admire his composure. All the stuff he has won for Arsenal fans,

:14:16. > :14:18.all these years in the Champions League, for supporters of other

:14:19. > :14:23.clubs, that's just, it is untold riches, you know.

:14:24. > :14:34.The reaction is strong as well. They are the only British club to

:14:35. > :14:37.have been in the last 16 of the Champions League, fans would be

:14:38. > :14:42.wanting that record. Now he is perceived as a laughing stock. Even

:14:43. > :14:49.Bayern Munich asked, "What time is it? It is 10-2." Today's papers

:14:50. > :14:53.aren't much different. I mentioned they are being seen as a laughing

:14:54. > :15:03.stock. The question is will Arsene Wenger stay at Arsenal? Shame old

:15:04. > :15:08.story says the Star. 10-2. Shame again and Wenger out, that's the

:15:09. > :15:11.main message from Arsenal fans. He must be considering his future. His

:15:12. > :15:15.contract expires at the end of the season, although there is an offer

:15:16. > :15:18.on the table, the next steps will be a mutual decision between he and the

:15:19. > :15:22.club at the end of the season. Seven seasons in a row they have been

:15:23. > :15:30.eliminated at the last 16 stage so where is the progression coming for

:15:31. > :15:34.them? Their talisman, Sanchez and Ozil are likely to leave the club.

:15:35. > :15:45.He won three Premier League title and six FA Cups as well, but with

:15:46. > :15:48.the writing on the wall for Arsene Wenger.

:15:49. > :15:50.It's the stuff of films and novels but, this

:15:51. > :15:57.morning, there are claims - which many believe to be credible -

:15:58. > :15:59.that the American intelligence agency the CIA hacked into Samsung

:16:00. > :16:01.smart TVs and turned them into living-room spies.

:16:02. > :16:02.Conversations were allegedly recorded.

:16:03. > :16:05.The UK's MI5 agency is said to have helped.

:16:06. > :16:08.The information has been released by Wikileaks.

:16:09. > :16:13.The effort to compromise Samsung's F8000 range of smart TVs

:16:14. > :16:18.was codenamed Weeping Angel, after a Doctor Who character,

:16:19. > :16:22.according to documents dated June 2014.

:16:23. > :16:31.They describe the creation of a "fake off" mode,

:16:32. > :16:33.designed to fool users into believing that their screens

:16:34. > :16:37.Instead, the documents indicate, infected sets were made to covertly

:16:38. > :16:40.record conversations, which would later be

:16:41. > :16:44.transferred over the internet to CIA computer servers,

:16:45. > :16:46.once the TVs were fully switched back on, allowing their wi-fi

:16:47. > :16:53.Under a "future work" section, the leaked documents suggest that

:16:54. > :17:01.Other claims in the 9,000-plus documents released include

:17:02. > :17:04.that the CIA was trying to find ways to infect cars' computer

:17:05. > :17:09.Wikileaks claims these might have been used

:17:10. > :17:14.So what kind of insight does this tell us into the work

:17:15. > :17:17.What else could MI5, CIA and other intelligence agencies

:17:18. > :17:24.across the world be doing right now to spy on us?

:17:25. > :17:29.Major General Jonathan Shaw was the Ministry of Defence's first

:17:30. > :17:39.Annie Machon, a former intelligence officer for MI5.

:17:40. > :17:40.Peter Eckersley, Chief Computer Scientist for

:17:41. > :17:42.the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is an organisation

:17:43. > :17:46.defending civil liberties in the digital world,

:17:47. > :17:48.And Troy Hunt is an internet security expert, joining us

:17:49. > :17:59.And we have got Ben Owen as well who used to work for MI5 and he left a

:18:00. > :18:02.couple of years ago. You are the most recently employed by the

:18:03. > :18:08.intelligence services. What do you make of these claims about smart

:18:09. > :18:12.TVs? I think it probably comes as no surprise to the general public that

:18:13. > :18:15.intelligence services always look to enhance their technical

:18:16. > :18:22.capabilities. I cannot comment specifically on the smart TV

:18:23. > :18:28.scenario. It is ingenious, isn't it? It's certainly it is. I guess people

:18:29. > :18:33.have to comprehend that technical companies, Google, Samsung, Sony,

:18:34. > :18:36.they forever advance their technical capabilities each year, selling them

:18:37. > :18:40.to the public, they probably do not pay as much attention to the

:18:41. > :18:44.security of these devices as they should, making it relatively easy

:18:45. > :18:52.for intelligence agencies and hackers in general. Can I ask you

:18:53. > :18:56.about the fact that they are infecting the TVs, which would then

:18:57. > :18:59.leave us, I am sure they are not spying on us having conversations

:19:00. > :19:02.about what we are having for our tea, but leave us vulnerable to

:19:03. > :19:08.being hacked by criminals. Of course. The issue is there is always

:19:09. > :19:13.a back door and if that is left open, there is an issue for

:19:14. > :19:18.criminality as well. What I would add is that intelligence agencies

:19:19. > :19:23.and police communities are extremely targeted in what they are looking

:19:24. > :19:27.for, it is not carte blanche. They cannot do it to everyone, it is very

:19:28. > :19:36.specific. Keeping everybody safe from very harmful people. Jonathan,

:19:37. > :19:42.do you think mere human beings, should they be reassured? I entirely

:19:43. > :19:45.agree with what Ben Owens has just been saying, people should not be

:19:46. > :19:54.surprised about this. Interesting debate this morning, Peter, your

:19:55. > :20:01.other guests, out right -- outlined the porters and people at home and

:20:02. > :20:05.attacking people overseas, to keep the public safe, which is what the

:20:06. > :20:11.public demand of the state. To do that you are all with that great

:20:12. > :20:17.paradox to infringe people's and to protect them. And getting that

:20:18. > :20:22.balance right is the issue. But nobody should be surprised about

:20:23. > :20:25.this because this is of intrusion is exactly the sort of stuff we pay

:20:26. > :20:29.intelligence agencies to do in order to keep us safe, the question is

:20:30. > :20:33.where you draw the line about what is legal? How do you create the

:20:34. > :20:38.trust in the governance of this intrusion to make the public happy

:20:39. > :20:47.with the level of intrusion that these agencies have? So where do you

:20:48. > :20:52.draw the line? I am not sure it is drawn on the right place at the

:20:53. > :21:00.moment. We are seeking these vulnerabilities. The ordinary

:21:01. > :21:06.people, it is just bugs in software. Your vote when your laptop, it has

:21:07. > :21:09.bugs, everything has this in it. Does your bones and your laptop.

:21:10. > :21:19.Intelligence agencies use these to break into the device to be devised

:21:20. > :21:25.or extreme cases, getting control. What we would like to see is more of

:21:26. > :21:33.these intelligence pages help allergy is that hackers are foreign

:21:34. > :21:37.powers cannot great devices stop the dead is more of these intelligence

:21:38. > :21:42.agencies and the CIA and the FBI and equivalents in other countries we

:21:43. > :21:47.fully go in and break things and speaking lot slower export

:21:48. > :21:52.infrastructure stock the extremes of how that can go wrong with

:21:53. > :21:57.documented several years ago when the British intelligence services

:21:58. > :21:59.were documented to be watching everybody's Yahoo! Video

:22:00. > :22:05.conversations, including a lot of conversations where people were

:22:06. > :22:10.maybe being brought internet than the intelligence agencies had

:22:11. > :22:19.expected full and a lot of people, a private calls without mothers would

:22:20. > :22:23.be watched online. Is this what the CIA and MI5 are doing, so can the

:22:24. > :22:29.intelligence agencies get cross about the Russians the US

:22:30. > :22:31.presidential election? If so, we have yet to see evidence the

:22:32. > :22:39.Russians did interfere in the election. I am concerned about this

:22:40. > :22:41.development, if we have these bugs and these problems within our

:22:42. > :22:48.domestic appliances, they can indeed and have already been hacked. We saw

:22:49. > :22:51.last year the biggest attack affecting the West Coast of East

:22:52. > :22:56.Coast of America and of Western Europe, which was developed over our

:22:57. > :23:04.smart devices and our homes, so this is a real problem and the idiot you

:23:05. > :23:09.are sitting watching the television Orwellian. They are not watching

:23:10. > :23:12.normal people, are they? We don't know, that is the problem,

:23:13. > :23:17.intelligence agencies in the UK are the least accountable and most

:23:18. > :23:22.weakly accounted in Western democracies so we do not know what

:23:23. > :23:26.they are getting up to. Ben is shaking his head in the

:23:27. > :23:32.disagreement. With respect, I think individuals have missed the broader

:23:33. > :23:36.subject on this. My big concern going forward with technical

:23:37. > :23:41.capabilities of private companies is the companies. You are shaking your

:23:42. > :23:46.head in disagreement when she said we just don't know if they are

:23:47. > :23:51.spying on people normally going about their business in their homes.

:23:52. > :23:55.Categorically from my experience, normal members of the public with

:23:56. > :23:58.nothing to worry about, they are not being watched. The intelligence

:23:59. > :24:08.services which do not have resources to do that, it would be a ridiculous

:24:09. > :24:17.scenario, that is not happening. Sorry, I am going to bring in Troy,

:24:18. > :24:20.Peter. If what you think about the intelligence agencies capitalising

:24:21. > :24:29.on bugs in smart TVs and not telling the companies there are bugs so they

:24:30. > :24:34.can use that, what you think? It is a delicate issue, we can appreciate

:24:35. > :24:38.how valuable these bugs and beat the intelligence agencies and good

:24:39. > :24:44.points in eight about wanting intelligence agencies look after our

:24:45. > :24:47.well-being. The offset is if they have identified all abilities in

:24:48. > :24:51.technology, there is a very good chance others have as well and that

:24:52. > :24:57.the other nation states, and career criminals looking to put victims. By

:24:58. > :25:00.not disclosing vulnerabilities that technology companies and allowing

:25:01. > :25:06.them to fix it, it puts people at risk. We are trading of a privacy

:25:07. > :25:11.national security issue with another issue if it falls into the wrong

:25:12. > :25:14.hands. So as citizens of the world, do we have to accept we are

:25:15. > :25:18.vulnerable to criminal activity for the greater good, that the

:25:19. > :25:24.intelligence agencies can protect us? I think we accept that now every

:25:25. > :25:28.time we collect something to the internet, whether it be a computer

:25:29. > :25:31.or teddy bear with listening devices these days and this is the world we

:25:32. > :25:34.live in, we want to connect everything and that will mean

:25:35. > :25:38.opportunities for criminals and for both legitimate and invasive

:25:39. > :25:43.surveillance by intelligence agencies as well. Can I widen this

:25:44. > :25:50.out, who is the best person to answer this, I don't know? How are

:25:51. > :25:55.other nations spying on each other? We have talked about Smart TVs and

:25:56. > :26:00.we heard about devices and rocks in Russia, what else? I think it was

:26:01. > :26:07.mentioned earlier saying Britain is the least accountable. I would

:26:08. > :26:18.disagree, I think if we look at Russia as an example, and they are

:26:19. > :26:24.extremely broad. There are no boundaries. Given the examples. I

:26:25. > :26:28.could not give specific examples of what I have experienced, but that

:26:29. > :26:35.intelligence services, they are fast. Tenfold to what Britain has

:26:36. > :26:42.also looking at Manpower and money. They rely on hacking, and doing that

:26:43. > :26:51.on a broader scale than Britain and America in my experience the Troy,

:26:52. > :26:57.do you have an example? In terms of surveillance by Russia or national

:26:58. > :27:03.states in general? Teddy bears! We have issue of the teddy bears as you

:27:04. > :27:09.my knowledge was not used by nation-state what was a good example

:27:10. > :27:14.of how we put examples of devices in devices with microphones which in

:27:15. > :27:18.the case of the teddy bears last ended up looking very personal

:27:19. > :27:20.conversations and if everyday hackers stumble across these on the

:27:21. > :27:28.internet, nation-state certainly can find them. Perhaps the best example

:27:29. > :27:31.we can talk about is the Chinese use of the internet to steal

:27:32. > :27:37.intellectual property in order to catch what they would describe as

:27:38. > :27:44.the Hundred years of suppression by the West. So you see all sorts of

:27:45. > :27:52.businesses in the West going out of business because they put the R and

:27:53. > :27:54.D Bassman creating new technology and the Chinese still big

:27:55. > :27:59.intellectual property and bring products to market much cheaper and

:28:00. > :28:08.beat people and there have been examples of wind turbines in

:28:09. > :28:16.Blackburn out of business by them back jet fighters stop an example of

:28:17. > :28:19.how the latest generation fighters, because they have stolen the

:28:20. > :28:25.blueprint by intellectual property theft. The Chinese are much more

:28:26. > :28:29.interested with catching up is complete with the West and they have

:28:30. > :28:35.used the internet to do that so that is a key part of this. Annie, most

:28:36. > :28:41.of you said we should not be surprised intelligence agencies use

:28:42. > :28:44.smart TVs, but what we are saying I think is that the everyday

:28:45. > :28:52.technologies that use in our daily lives smart meters in smartphones

:28:53. > :28:58.and smart TVs and cars, drones, intelligence agencies can use those

:28:59. > :29:02.to spy on people they want. They can, yes, and in the UK, we have a

:29:03. > :29:07.new law from the beginning of this year, the investigatory Powers act,

:29:08. > :29:16.the sleepers Charter, giving spies in the UK massive powers to hack

:29:17. > :29:19.into our appliances as the Hoover information and store it for a set

:29:20. > :29:23.period of time, which is very much out of proportion from what we

:29:24. > :29:30.expect in terms of our privacy within the UK, as opposed to

:29:31. > :29:34.protecting our security. The fact that these intelligence agencies,

:29:35. > :29:37.the CIA and MI5, have developed these hacks and identified

:29:38. > :29:41.vulnerabilities in technology and not blasted the companies which the

:29:42. > :29:47.CIA legally obliged to do ever since the Snowdon releases Isabel, showing

:29:48. > :29:53.they are working in the belly of accountable manner. Thank you, all.

:29:54. > :29:58.Interesting insight, thank you. Karen has e-mailed, the CIA wants to

:29:59. > :30:04.collect, analyse and disseminate foreign intelligence, criticising

:30:05. > :30:07.them for doing their job, I am tired of hearing the paranoid mind about

:30:08. > :30:12.security measures are why this amazement about what intelligence

:30:13. > :30:14.agencies get up to this remark is surely no thinking person is in

:30:15. > :30:21.doubt about how technology surveillance creeps Deta -- deep

:30:22. > :30:24.into our lives, I hope we can control this.

:30:25. > :30:29.Lawrence says, I have never trusted my Towcester!

:30:30. > :30:31.I think it has got it in for me. -- Towcester.

:30:32. > :30:35.I talk to a man who says football saved his life,

:30:36. > :30:39.after the sport helped him cope with mental health issues, following

:30:40. > :30:43.He tried to take his life many times. And you will really want to

:30:44. > :30:46.hear from the young man. And they act as first responders

:30:47. > :30:52.in Syria's civil war. They have saved nearly 80,000

:30:53. > :30:54.people. Back They have saved

:30:55. > :30:56.nearly 80,000 people. tells me about his experience

:30:57. > :31:02.of helping others in a war zone. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom,

:31:03. > :31:08.with a summary of today's news. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:31:09. > :31:10.will use his first Budget today to deliver what the Treasury has

:31:11. > :31:13.said will be an "upbeat" assessment of Britain's economic prospects,

:31:14. > :31:15.while acknowledging that more He'll stress that the Government

:31:16. > :31:18.won't shirk difficult decisions on tax and spending to deal

:31:19. > :31:20.with the deficit, although he's expected to find extra money

:31:21. > :31:23.for social care in England and to help soften the impact

:31:24. > :31:28.of changes to business rates. Lord Heseltine has been sacked

:31:29. > :31:30.as a government adviser after rebelling over the legislation

:31:31. > :31:33.that will allow Theresa May to begin The Government suffered a second

:31:34. > :31:40.defeat on the Bill in the House of Lords yesterday after peers

:31:41. > :31:43.backed calls for a parliamentary Speaking in the last hour,

:31:44. > :31:47.Lord Heseltine said it was a great disappointment to have been sacked

:31:48. > :32:00.but he had to vote according In the end Europe is the

:32:01. > :32:07.transcending issue of our time and you have always to decide in public

:32:08. > :32:11.life if you have a vote in Parliament where that national

:32:12. > :32:17.interest lies and to me, it lies in the sovereignty of Parliament and I

:32:18. > :32:17.therefore must vote in order to preserve the sovereignty of

:32:18. > :32:22.Parliament. A former head of the CIA has said

:32:23. > :32:25.an apparent leak of thousands of the agency's files

:32:26. > :32:29.is incredibly damaging. The documents - which have been

:32:30. > :32:32.published by the website WikiLeaks - appear to reveal attempts to hack

:32:33. > :32:34.into electronic devices One file suggests the CIA and MI5

:32:35. > :32:38.had discovered how to record conversations using a microphone

:32:39. > :32:41.in a Samsung smart TV even when it The CIA has refused to comment

:32:42. > :32:45.on the document's authenticity. But the agency's former director,

:32:46. > :32:46.Michael Hayden said Police searching for missing RAF

:32:47. > :32:59.gunner Corrie McKeague are investigating whether a bin

:33:00. > :33:01.lorry is linked The vehicle was spotted

:33:02. > :33:06.near where the 23-year-old was last seen and carried a much heavier load

:33:07. > :33:08.than first thought. A search of a landfill site

:33:09. > :33:15.in Cambridgeshire is underway. Mr McKeague was last seen on a night

:33:16. > :33:18.out on 24th September. A British backpacker

:33:19. > :33:20.who was allegedly held captive for weeks, and subjected to repeated

:33:21. > :33:23.sexual assaults, has been released The 22-year-old woman

:33:24. > :33:28.is being comforted by her family A 22-year-old Australian

:33:29. > :33:33.man has been charged with a number of offences,

:33:34. > :33:39.and has been remanded in custody. That's a summary of

:33:40. > :33:51.the latest BBC News. I get the impression that some of

:33:52. > :33:56.you are not taking the spying through your TV seriously. A viewer

:33:57. > :33:56.says, "I will only watch my smart TV when naked!

:33:57. > :34:06.Arsene Wenger remains defiant after his side were knocked

:34:07. > :34:08.out of the Champions League, 10-2 on aggregate

:34:09. > :34:13.The German champions won 5-1 again - this time at the Emirates -

:34:14. > :34:22.and Wenger blamed the referee for the extent of the defeat.

:34:23. > :34:25.England ended the She Believes Cup with a narrow defeat 1-0 defeat

:34:26. > :34:28.to European and Olympic champions Germany in Washington.

:34:29. > :34:35.France beat hosts USA 3-0 to take the title.

:34:36. > :34:38.The fixtures for this summer's women's cricket World Cup has been

:34:39. > :34:42.England will begin their home tournament in Derby -

:34:43. > :34:46.Team Sky say they've made mistakes and take full

:34:47. > :34:48.responsibility for the controversy surrounding Sir Bradley Wiggins

:34:49. > :34:50.and the mystery medical package he received in 2011.

:34:51. > :34:55.They deny breaking anti-doping rules.

:34:56. > :35:04.That's all the sport for now, we will be back with more after 10am.

:35:05. > :35:06.The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, will deliver what's

:35:07. > :35:07.being described as an "upbeat" assessment

:35:08. > :35:10.of Britain's economic prospects in the Budget later.

:35:11. > :35:14.The Budget is meant to update us all on the state of the economy,

:35:15. > :35:17.the UK Government's spending plans and how they plan to pay for them.

:35:18. > :35:19.The Chancellor's decisions will affect all of us.

:35:20. > :35:21.Here's our political guru Norman Smith's guide

:35:22. > :35:26.He's been dubbed Spreadsheet Phil, and that's because Mr Hammond

:35:27. > :35:32.is a man with an eye on the bottom line, a cautious Chancellor.

:35:33. > :35:35.I regard my job as Chancellor as making sure that our economy

:35:36. > :35:41.is resilient, that we've got reserves in the tank.

:35:42. > :35:48.So here's five top tips. some giveaways and handy headlines.

:35:49. > :35:49.Social care: it's groaning at the seams.

:35:50. > :35:53.So, stand by for an emergency injection of more than ?1 billion.

:35:54. > :36:06.But no Budget comes without at least some giveaways and handy headlines.

:36:07. > :36:09.Social care: it's groaning at the seams.

:36:10. > :36:12.So, stand by for an emergency injection of more than ?1 billion.

:36:13. > :36:15.And there will be a promise of yet another government review of how

:36:16. > :36:19.Labour, however, are already promising a fight over the issue.

:36:20. > :36:21.A million people aren't getting the care they need.

:36:22. > :36:23.And family members, mostly women, are having to give up work

:36:24. > :36:27.Every day that the Prime Minister fails to act,

:36:28. > :36:31.Business rates, shops have been on the war path over a hefty

:36:32. > :36:33.hike in their bills, so expect help for some

:36:34. > :36:35.small high street traders who have been hit hardest.

:36:36. > :36:37.Grammar schools will get the official go-ahead,

:36:38. > :36:40.with cash to build new selective free schools, able to pick

:36:41. > :36:44.and choose pupils on the basis of their academic ability.

:36:45. > :36:48.T-levels, a new, simple technology qualification doing courage

:36:49. > :36:53.of youngsters to acquire skills and trades.

:36:54. > :36:59.The hope that T-levels will be seen as just as good as A-levels.

:37:00. > :37:02.And finally, austerity, there's more of it, and it's

:37:03. > :37:05.going to last until after 2020, with benefit freezes, pay caps

:37:06. > :37:13.Labour are demanding a different approach.

:37:14. > :37:15.I think this government lives in a different world

:37:16. > :37:20.People are suffering at the moment, stagnating wages, prices increasing

:37:21. > :37:21.because of inflation, insecure work, cuts

:37:22. > :37:34.All in all, it's going to be a careful, cautious Budget.

:37:35. > :37:37.And that is not just because Philip Hammond

:37:38. > :37:39.is that sort of Chancellor, but because, as a nation,

:37:40. > :37:48.So let's talk about some of the key issues -

:37:49. > :37:52.social care, education, business rates and the gig economy -

:37:53. > :37:55.where people are employed on temporary short-term contracts

:37:56. > :37:59.or freelance work as opposed to permanent jobs.

:38:00. > :38:01.To speak about business rate hikes are Lyn Knights,

:38:02. > :38:06.who has a 165-year old clothing business in Southwold

:38:07. > :38:09.and Alex Pose-Gil, who owns London's Buckingham Coffee Lounge

:38:10. > :38:12.and is seeing his rates go from ?11,000 to ?22,000 a year.

:38:13. > :38:16.Carly Hobbs is self-employed as a make-up artist,

:38:17. > :38:19.tanner and beauty writer and says expected tax increases for the self

:38:20. > :38:30.To talk about the Chancellor's widely trailed announcement

:38:31. > :38:34.we have Geoff Barton, a secondary school headteacher who's

:38:35. > :38:36.with us from Ipswich, and to discuss the anticipated

:38:37. > :38:39.announcement on social care, ex-head of the association

:38:40. > :38:42.of directors of adult social services, Ray James.

:38:43. > :38:48.Welcome all of you. We're going to talk about business rates first.

:38:49. > :38:53.What are you expecting in terms of your rates going up? I hope they're

:38:54. > :38:57.going to go down. Do you? Yes. Do you think that's likely? Well, there

:38:58. > :39:01.is a little murmur about it. That the Chancellor will put extra cash

:39:02. > :39:06.for people who are expecting a big hike? I hope so. We're up in arms.

:39:07. > :39:12.Southwold is a wonderful place. It is a lovely seaside town and it is

:39:13. > :39:16.because of house prices. A beach hut goes for ?160,000. Which is obscene,

:39:17. > :39:21.but it is a beautiful place. But that means the rates in the shops go

:39:22. > :39:27.up. We've got all the chain stores coming into town now and they're

:39:28. > :39:32.paying ?60,000, ?65,000 in rent. Now, who can afford that? The local

:39:33. > :39:37.shops are closing. Are they actually closing? Well, the shoe shop has

:39:38. > :39:41.gone and there is murmurs that people will close and go because

:39:42. > :39:45.they can't afford it. Alex you're in a similar position. You're worried.

:39:46. > :39:49.There are plenty of businesses where the rates are going down? I agree

:39:50. > :39:52.with that. It is a different business model. We're in Central

:39:53. > :39:57.London, we have to be competitive with what we have got around us.

:39:58. > :40:02.There are people outside of London, warehouses have been put to me, but

:40:03. > :40:06.we're not the same playing field. Yes, we're still business and we

:40:07. > :40:09.have to pay everything, but they have the advantage of playing the

:40:10. > :40:18.law and they can be away from where I can. I rely on foot fall. If I am

:40:19. > :40:23.know not there, where do you want me to be? Central business will be

:40:24. > :40:28.without the friendly businesses. That's not going to exist in London

:40:29. > :40:31.anymore. So, I mean, what impact will there be on your business if

:40:32. > :40:35.there is no relief from the Chancellor for you today? In

:40:36. > :40:38.preparation I've made cuts. One of them, one of my staff members wants

:40:39. > :40:43.to go back to studying so I've reduced her hours. So I have been

:40:44. > :40:48.lucky in that respect, but I can't cut anymore. I've cut my own pocket

:40:49. > :40:52.as much I can. I'm in the lucky position that I have a good family

:40:53. > :40:56.behind me, but it is just my sole income, I would have to consider

:40:57. > :41:01.closing down. Seriously. You have written to the chancellor and you

:41:02. > :41:05.have sent him a postcard? I I sent a video to the Prime Minister at

:41:06. > :41:10.Christmas time. OK, have you had any response? I have had a letter back

:41:11. > :41:16.from her thanking me for the video, but nothing about the rates. I sent

:41:17. > :41:19.a card with a picture of shop and sent the letter, "Please help us."

:41:20. > :41:27.Fingers crossed. We will see. We will see. Let's talk to Karly, you

:41:28. > :41:30.have self-employed as a make-up artist, a hair stylist and tanner,

:41:31. > :41:34.you have been doing that for three years. In terms of the decision to

:41:35. > :41:38.be self-employed. Tell us about that? My background was on glossy

:41:39. > :41:42.women's magazines and that was competitive and there were a lot of

:41:43. > :41:45.redundancies and I decided to open a portfolio career and train in all

:41:46. > :41:48.the areas, I work four different jobs because I still write about

:41:49. > :41:51.beauty well. In terms of the changes that are coming to me, although I

:41:52. > :41:55.work a lot of hours every week, it is going to mean working even more

:41:56. > :41:58.hours. Because you're expecting national insurance to be put up and

:41:59. > :42:02.that's going to hit you as a self-employed person? Yeah, that's

:42:03. > :42:05.right. For me, it seems unfair, while those are going up for

:42:06. > :42:09.self-employed people which a lot of people are becoming even if they are

:42:10. > :42:17.on zero contract hours, it is like being freelance for them. There is

:42:18. > :42:20.no support of if I'm poorly, I need to take time off or further down the

:42:21. > :42:25.line if I want to have a baby, maternity, there is no buffer for me

:42:26. > :42:27.there. OK, I mean that is what is, you know, we're expecting that from

:42:28. > :42:32.the Chancellor. So you're going to have to absorb that? Yeah, I'm going

:42:33. > :42:37.to have to absorb it. I'm going to have to budget harder and save more

:42:38. > :42:41.of my earnings and chase clients. That's another thing for

:42:42. > :42:46.self-employed people, although you get the work aye do lovely photo

:42:47. > :42:49.shoots, chasing clients for money takes a long time, it is not a

:42:50. > :42:53.regular pay cheque every month so I'm really going to have to be

:42:54. > :42:58.careful with my budget and how I manage my finances. OK. Thank you

:42:59. > :43:02.for that. Let's talk to Geoff Barton about education and then we'll talk

:43:03. > :43:08.to Ray James about social care the more money going into funding school

:43:09. > :43:13.places, some of it will be going to fund new selective school places.

:43:14. > :43:16.What do you think of that? Well, we will wait and see what the

:43:17. > :43:20.Chancellor actually says this afternoon, Victoria, but from what

:43:21. > :43:22.we've read so far, reminding ourselves that school are the places

:43:23. > :43:26.that society passes on skills and values to the next generation, at a

:43:27. > :43:32.time when we know we've got ?3 billion worth of funding cuts in

:43:33. > :43:36.real terms. It will feel a bit rich particularly to taxpayers if it

:43:37. > :43:40.looks like a pot has been set aside for vanity project for something

:43:41. > :43:44.which has got no evidence behind it and which hasn't been consulted and

:43:45. > :43:51.which may do damage to social justice. A vanity project, the words

:43:52. > :43:54.used by the Shadow Education Secretary. There is a demand from

:43:55. > :43:57.some parents for more grammar schools and more selective education

:43:58. > :44:01.for their children? We don't see the evidence for that. There are good

:44:02. > :44:05.grammar schools in the country at the moment, but it seems not

:44:06. > :44:09.unreasonable that we should say before ?324 million is put aside,

:44:10. > :44:12.there should be a sign of what the consultation is saying, we haven't

:44:13. > :44:15.had the outcome of the consultation. There should be evidence and there

:44:16. > :44:19.should be a real sign that this is going to help the poorest children

:44:20. > :44:22.because what we know is those ?3 billion worth of cuts that I've

:44:23. > :44:25.talked about are likely to hit the most disadvantaged school and the

:44:26. > :44:28.most disadvantaged communities the most and a Government that talks

:44:29. > :44:32.social justice really should put that into practise. Are you seeing

:44:33. > :44:40.an impact of tightened budgets in your own school and if so, in what

:44:41. > :44:44.way? Definitely. We have a loan of ?150,000. That doesn't mean that

:44:45. > :44:49.we're going to make that money back by not paining the corridors. It is

:44:50. > :44:53.not about not buying textbooks. The only way you can make savings is by

:44:54. > :44:58.reducing the number of teachers and the way you do that is by increasing

:44:59. > :45:02.class sizes and by putting fewer courses on. It will drive a scism

:45:03. > :45:06.between those schools where parents can afford it make contributions and

:45:07. > :45:09.those that can't and it is the disadvantaged schools who this

:45:10. > :45:13.Government should be fighting for who look, if the information we've

:45:14. > :45:18.been given so far is right, they are the ones who will be hit hardest by

:45:19. > :45:23.?3 billion of cuts over the coming years at a time when we know 284,000

:45:24. > :45:33.secondary places will be needed. Ray James is here. He is former head of

:45:34. > :45:37.adult social services. The Government is expected to inject

:45:38. > :45:40.?1.5 billion into the social care sector, that's looking after elderly

:45:41. > :45:44.people, people with disabilities in the community? Yes, so what will be

:45:45. > :45:48.really good to hear today is the growing recognition that the number

:45:49. > :45:51.of people needing care and support is growing in future years and that

:45:52. > :45:55.the cost of providing care will increase. Frontline care workers

:45:56. > :45:58.deserve the Living Wage and that will increase the cost of providing

:45:59. > :46:02.care so the funding from Government needs to keep pace with the growing

:46:03. > :46:06.demand for and the growing cost of care.

:46:07. > :46:16.This will plug a shortfall for the moment stop Mac we need genuinely

:46:17. > :46:21.new and additional money. I am fearful it might be existing money

:46:22. > :46:25.brought forward rather than new and additional money, and a commitment

:46:26. > :46:30.to finding a longer term and sustainable solution in terms of

:46:31. > :46:34.funding and national policy stop Mac it does not matter what political

:46:35. > :46:38.party, it seems difficult to come up with something long term and

:46:39. > :46:43.sustainable. Because we have elections every couple of years.

:46:44. > :46:49.What are the holds in provision? The biggest areas are care homes closing

:46:50. > :46:53.for the first time despite an ageing population, there are more care

:46:54. > :46:59.homes closing on opening and in many parts of the country, especially

:47:00. > :47:02.rural areas, being able to recruit the front home care workers to

:47:03. > :47:06.provide care and support in homes is becoming increasingly difficult.

:47:07. > :47:13.Good look to you all, you will all be watching and listening. The coach

:47:14. > :47:15.macro will stand up later. Thank you very much. Good luck with your

:47:16. > :47:18.businesses -- the Chancellor. Next, I'd like to introduce

:47:19. > :47:24.you to 21-year-old James Casling. Three years ago, he was sectioned

:47:25. > :47:28.in a psychiatric hospital, having tried to take his life

:47:29. > :47:30."countless" times, following He says football saved his life and,

:47:31. > :47:34.last night, he was invited to Parliament to speak publicly

:47:35. > :47:36.for the first time His talk was moving

:47:37. > :47:41.and inspirational, and he's agreed to share it with you too this

:47:42. > :47:56.morning, Hello, James. How are you? All

:47:57. > :48:02.right, thank you. In your own time, James, read out what you said the

:48:03. > :48:06.Parliament last night. My story started three weeks after

:48:07. > :48:10.my 18th birthday when I was admitted to Park Royal Centre for mental

:48:11. > :48:15.health. I had become so all that for me, life was not worth living and

:48:16. > :48:19.18, I was ready to die and had made many attempts on my own life. If I

:48:20. > :48:24.had carried on down that path, I would not be here today. Something

:48:25. > :48:29.had to change, I had to stop destroying myself and build myself

:48:30. > :48:35.up again. That is when football and QPR and the community trust came in

:48:36. > :48:39.and change my life. One morning, Tom, the occupational therapist,

:48:40. > :48:43.woke me up and asked if I wanted to play football and of course I said

:48:44. > :48:52.yes. I didn't really expect much at first, but I realised I had no peace

:48:53. > :48:56.so I rang my mum and asked to get me some -- boots. Within an hour, she

:48:57. > :49:00.got me a pair. I did not realise if my mum did not buy me those boots,

:49:01. > :49:07.things might never have changed and I might have lost my life to my

:49:08. > :49:13.mental illness. All right, take your time.

:49:14. > :49:17.All the time in the world. So every week, I would attend training and it

:49:18. > :49:22.gave me hope for the future that I could be someone my family and my

:49:23. > :49:27.friends could be proud of. To me, it was not just football, it was my

:49:28. > :49:35.life. It gave me stuff to build on. Instead of destroying. I had become

:49:36. > :49:40.stronger and every week, I would put so much effort in that I could not

:49:41. > :49:45.walk for days afterwards. It changed me into a better man and it made me

:49:46. > :49:49.want to stay alive so my mother and brothers would not have to bury me.

:49:50. > :49:57.Instead, they could say to everyone, my son and my brother plays for QPR.

:49:58. > :50:03.They have done amazing things, QPR. My biggest achievement would be in

:50:04. > :50:06.my first three seasons at the club, I was top goal-scorer, every time I

:50:07. > :50:12.put on the kit, I was not a schoolboy any more, I was James, I

:50:13. > :50:21.was free my Demons. Unfortunately, others are not so lucky. I made a

:50:22. > :50:27.20th 2010, I lost my father to suicide. On my 15th birthday. But I

:50:28. > :50:30.have taken the good from the bad and I have met amazing people and

:50:31. > :50:38.travelled to places to play football, I get to meet people. For

:50:39. > :50:42.a young boy like me, losing my dad left me confused in this big world.

:50:43. > :50:48.I did not have any sense of direction. I met my coaches, and

:50:49. > :50:53.Nathan and they helped me find my way. They stood in my corner and the

:50:54. > :50:59.support I had from them was amazing. Just so thankful they came over.

:51:00. > :51:04.They showed me that I am with something and I am lucky enough to

:51:05. > :51:08.know them. We can never stop people getting mentally unwell, but we can

:51:09. > :51:15.help them recover with the use of football. It worked for me and many

:51:16. > :51:18.others that I have played for and against and with. Football saved my

:51:19. > :51:30.life. Well done. Well done. That was

:51:31. > :51:37.magnificent. All right? Do you think it is important to

:51:38. > :51:40.speak out? People are suffering in silence because they don't have

:51:41. > :51:51.someone to look up to and say enough is enough, we have got to change.

:51:52. > :51:58.People are mentally unwell and they are seen as an outcast from society.

:51:59. > :52:06.Once we start breaking down the stigma, people will come out and say

:52:07. > :52:18.they have got problems. And sharing is a good thing? Yes. Because people

:52:19. > :52:23.sit in their rooms, wherever, and they just think about stuff too

:52:24. > :52:29.much. That is why we have such a high suicide rate, because people

:52:30. > :52:40.don't want to get help and speak out. But if one person shares, other

:52:41. > :52:44.people will follow that example. I have a mental illness, it is nothing

:52:45. > :52:51.to be ashamed of. It is like any other illness, you can get better

:52:52. > :52:57.from it. What does playing football do for you, James? How does it make

:52:58. > :53:04.you feel? It is just like you step on the field, the pitch, and just

:53:05. > :53:11.have a ball actual foot and just to be focused. Because it is not always

:53:12. > :53:15.about you because you have got to work as a team. And you want your

:53:16. > :53:21.team to do well and you know you have got to play well yourself, so

:53:22. > :53:25.your focus is on being the best player you can be at that time. You

:53:26. > :53:31.are relying on your team-mates and they rely on you, and it is that

:53:32. > :53:37.sort of belonging to something... When I lost my dad, I had lost all

:53:38. > :53:45.sense of belonging and I still had my mother and brothers, but it just,

:53:46. > :53:51.it's really out of control. I didn't have anything, I felt like I

:53:52. > :53:54.belonged to nothing. But I put on my kit and I played with my friends and

:53:55. > :54:01.it feels like we are not just friends, we are family. I know your

:54:02. > :54:05.mum and the mental health Football Association support you speaking out

:54:06. > :54:11.today. Some people will never have heard of the organisation, can you

:54:12. > :54:16.tell us about their work? It only recently started, three years ago.

:54:17. > :54:25.That is when I started playing and it grew from there, Conor, the

:54:26. > :54:30.founder, really nice guy, I have played against him and had nice

:54:31. > :54:34.chats, and it is just about being able, as we were saying yesterday,

:54:35. > :54:42.networking with different clubs who have mental health teams. So there

:54:43. > :54:47.is one place they can all go, they can go, I fancy a game, and they

:54:48. > :54:54.show you the right direction to go and your closest route to joining in

:54:55. > :55:00.and stuff like that. It has helped a lot of people in the time it has

:55:01. > :55:04.been running, it in three years. May I read your messages from people who

:55:05. > :55:13.have just listened to you this morning? This tweet, a brave young

:55:14. > :55:19.guy, I am sending him a hug. Julie says, a QPR fan, football saved his

:55:20. > :55:24.life, brave bloke, top man. God bless him, take is real courage.

:55:25. > :55:29.Thank you so much, James, for being brave enough to share this.

:55:30. > :55:32.April says, in tears watching this brave young man and your programme,

:55:33. > :55:39.people often get is as suicide risks, people need more and better

:55:40. > :55:48.intervention. Brave lad for being so honest.

:55:49. > :55:59.Can you remember what your state of mind was when you are first

:56:00. > :56:06.sectioned? I disappointed... I was in such a dark place that life was

:56:07. > :56:14.not worth it. To me, I was in so much pain that the Carry On and like

:56:15. > :56:24.it was going to hurt more than to bend my life. It is a scary place

:56:25. > :56:29.because people are like, are you afraid of dying? But you are not

:56:30. > :56:36.afraid of dying. That is scary because what are you afraid of? If

:56:37. > :56:41.you can take steps to end your own life, there is not much that is

:56:42. > :56:48.scary to you. But to sit in a room, I have done it countless times, and

:56:49. > :56:55.just be left alone with my thoughts, I think that is what kills people.

:56:56. > :57:04.It is not sadness, it is their own heads telling them their life is not

:57:05. > :57:07.worth it. When in fact, it is. There is not always going to be a light at

:57:08. > :57:15.the end of the tunnel, you have got to be your own. That is what I mean.

:57:16. > :57:20.I have stood up and I have said, I can't live like this any more. I

:57:21. > :57:28.cannot live until the next time a self harm or try to kill myself. I

:57:29. > :57:37.want to actually live. I am 21 now. I have got a good 40, 50, 60 years

:57:38. > :57:47.ahead of me. So from the age of 15, I wanted to die. And that is not a

:57:48. > :57:49.way to live your life. How lost were you when your dad died? He took his

:57:50. > :58:13.own life. It was like my whole world had just

:58:14. > :58:17.disappeared. The one person... He was supposed to be the strongest

:58:18. > :58:25.person in the world, in my eyes. He had gone. I did not have that father

:58:26. > :58:37.figure. And my mum had to step up and do the two jobs. But I have

:58:38. > :58:46.always wondered why he would do it. And why my love for him was not

:58:47. > :58:55.enough. But then I realised that if somebody is like that, I could not

:58:56. > :58:57.have saved him. I think that hurts a lot more to note that there is

:58:58. > :59:13.nothing I could have done to prevent it. It is like your whole world gets

:59:14. > :59:25.turned upside down. You just can't explain it. Yes. You have explained

:59:26. > :59:33.it. You have explained it. What do you think about? You said you have

:59:34. > :59:44.40, 50, 60 years, what do you think about in the future? I wish I could

:59:45. > :59:52.predict the future but obviously, we can't. It is looking a lot brighter

:59:53. > :00:04.than it was. A couple of months ago. Years ago. As I said, I can't, I

:00:05. > :00:10.have to accept there is nothing I can do to change my situation, I

:00:11. > :00:18.have just got to be strong. And I have got to help people come out of

:00:19. > :00:24.their darkness. I think that is the future, for me, it is just to help

:00:25. > :00:31.other people, out and speak up about their problems and say, do you know

:00:32. > :00:37.what, for me, I have got borderline personality disorder, I have that,

:00:38. > :00:42.but that is not me, I am still the same boy before he died and I will

:00:43. > :00:48.be the same boy that I am when I die.

:00:49. > :00:56.Can I read some more messages, James? Phil says this "Don't stop

:00:57. > :01:02.what you're doing. Thank you for sharing your words and for your

:01:03. > :01:08.courage today." Julian says, "What a top bloke. I'm sitting in my hotel

:01:09. > :01:15.room in tears." Peter, "I'm so proud of you. Honoured to be your coach

:01:16. > :01:22.and to call you a friend. Hashtag QPR Family." Oh. Thank you very much

:01:23. > :01:26.for talking to us. Thank you for talking to our audience. I do not

:01:27. > :01:30.under estimate the strength it took for you to do that and I really

:01:31. > :01:37.appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much, James.

:01:38. > :01:47.Thank you. James' mum and the Mental health

:01:48. > :01:56.football organisation supported James speaking out. You can find

:01:57. > :02:04.organisations offering support at: Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:02:05. > :02:07.Newsroom with a summary The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:02:08. > :02:15.will use his first budget today to deliver what the Treasury has

:02:16. > :02:18.said will be an "upbeat" assessment of Britain's economic prospects,

:02:19. > :02:20.while acknowledging that more He'll stress that the Government

:02:21. > :02:23.won't shirk difficult decisions on tax and spending to deal

:02:24. > :02:26.with the deficit, although he's expected to find extra money

:02:27. > :02:28.for social care in England and to help soften the impact

:02:29. > :02:32.of changes to business rates. Lord Heseltine has been sacked

:02:33. > :02:35.as a Government adviser after rebelling over the legislation

:02:36. > :02:38.that will allow Theresa May to begin The Government suffered a second

:02:39. > :02:45.defeat on the Bill in the House of Lords yesterday after peers

:02:46. > :02:48.backed calls for a parliamentary Speaking in the last hour,

:02:49. > :02:53.the former Tory Deputy Prime Minister said it was a great

:02:54. > :02:55.disappointment to have been sacked but he had to vote

:02:56. > :02:58.according to his conscience. In the end, Europe is

:02:59. > :03:03.the transcending issue of our time and you have always to decide

:03:04. > :03:08.in public life if you have a vote in Parliament where that national

:03:09. > :03:11.interest lies and to me, it lies in the sovereignty

:03:12. > :03:14.of Parliament and I therefore must vote in order to preserve

:03:15. > :03:22.the sovereignty of Parliament. A former head of the CIA has said

:03:23. > :03:25.an apparent leak of thousands of the agency's files

:03:26. > :03:29.is incredibly damaging. The documents, which have been

:03:30. > :03:31.published by the website WikiLeaks, appear to reveal attempts to hack

:03:32. > :03:33.into electronic devices One file suggests the CIA and MI5

:03:34. > :03:37.had discovered how to record conversations using a microphone

:03:38. > :03:41.in a Samsung smart TV even when it The CIA has refused to comment

:03:42. > :03:44.on the document's authenticity. But the agency's former director,

:03:45. > :03:46.Michael Hayden said Police searching for missing RAF

:03:47. > :03:59.gunner Corrie McKeague are investigating whether a bin

:04:00. > :04:01.lorry is linked The vehicle was spotted

:04:02. > :04:04.near where the 23-year-old was last seen and carried a much heavier load

:04:05. > :04:07.than first thought. A search of a landfill site

:04:08. > :04:09.in Cambridgeshire is underway. Mr McKeague was last seen on a night

:04:10. > :04:17.out on 24th September. Some of the UK's biggest sports,

:04:18. > :04:20.like cricket and football, are still failing to meet government

:04:21. > :04:22.targets on female The report from the charity Women

:04:23. > :04:29.in Sport suggests nearly half of sporting bodies have not met

:04:30. > :04:32.the target of 30% gender diversity in the boardroom and there's been

:04:33. > :04:35.a decline in the number of women A Canadian town has apologised

:04:36. > :04:41.after its water treatment plan The Mayor of Onoway in Alberta said

:04:42. > :04:45.there was no public health risk but the town "could have done

:04:46. > :04:48.a better job communicating He said it was the unfortunate

:04:49. > :04:53.side-effect of a common water-treatment chemical,

:04:54. > :04:54.potassium permanganate, commonly That's a summary of

:04:55. > :05:14.the latest BBC News. Thank you very much.

:05:15. > :05:21.Good morning. Thank you for your many, many messages about James who

:05:22. > :05:27.has just spoken in such raw terms about his own mental health. Kev

:05:28. > :05:30.says, "I have just watched an extraordinary young man through

:05:31. > :05:34.tears of my own. I feel his pain, but I take heart from his bravery.

:05:35. > :05:37.Good luck. Keep fighting." James says, "That wonderful young man who

:05:38. > :05:40.has just spoken about mental health is so, so brave. Please tell him

:05:41. > :05:45.that he is not alone and that I just want to hold him and let him know

:05:46. > :05:52.that he is so wonderful. I cannot put into words how he had made me

:05:53. > :05:54.feel. :. " There are many more of us and I will try and read as many as I

:05:55. > :05:57.can in the next hour. Do get in touch with us

:05:58. > :05:59.throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria live

:06:00. > :06:02.and if you text, you will be charged Arsenal suffered a humiliating exit

:06:03. > :06:08.in the Champions League last 16. For a second time they were beaten

:06:09. > :06:11.5-1 from German giants Bayern Munich meaning they lost 10-2 on aggregate

:06:12. > :06:13.- that's the worst defeat suffered by an English

:06:14. > :06:18.side in the competition. They were reduced to ten men

:06:19. > :06:21.on the night with boss Arsene Wenger saying he was "revolted"

:06:22. > :06:23.by the referee's The capitulation led

:06:24. > :06:29.to chants of "Wenger Out" And those objections spilled out

:06:30. > :06:34.onto the streets of North London last night with thousands

:06:35. > :06:39.of fans protesting. We want you to go. Arsene Wenger we

:06:40. > :06:47.want you to go. They demanded an answer

:06:48. > :06:49.from the club's greatest ever boss, who was asked if it was his final

:06:50. > :07:03.Champions League match as a manager. I don't know. You are always worried

:07:04. > :07:07.for headlines, I'm here to speak about football, not about my future.

:07:08. > :07:12.What needs to change at this club. What do you mean by that? I think

:07:13. > :07:19.this club is in great shape, but it is going through a very difficult

:07:20. > :07:24.situation, so what needs to change is the result in the next game.

:07:25. > :07:29.A sad night for Arsene Wenger. England didn't have much joy

:07:30. > :07:33.against German opponents either. They lost 1-0 to Germany,

:07:34. > :07:35.in the She Believes Cup. Anya Mitaarg with the goal

:07:36. > :07:38.for the European Champions France won the invitational

:07:39. > :07:47.tournament. The first-half we were a bit

:07:48. > :07:50.disappointed with ourselves. We set out to do what we had done. The

:07:51. > :07:54.second half, we got to grips with the game and that was much more the

:07:55. > :07:58.England that we want to be. I think we put Germany on the back foot and

:07:59. > :07:59.it came down to fine margins and Germany took their chance when they

:08:00. > :08:07.got it and we didn't unfortunately. The number of women

:08:08. > :08:09.getting top jobs at UK sporting The Women In Sport group calls

:08:10. > :08:14.the findings of their study Under a new rules coming

:08:15. > :08:18.into effect next month, organisations must have a 30% female

:08:19. > :08:20.representation on their boards, England's Director of

:08:21. > :08:31.Women's Cricket is Clare Connor. The opportunity to host a World Cup

:08:32. > :08:34.in any sport is a pinnacle time. It's something that all the

:08:35. > :08:40.athletes, all the players aspire to be part of. As administrators it is

:08:41. > :08:43.a huge opportunity for us to promote our game to as many people as

:08:44. > :08:47.possible. We will be taking the tournament around the country,

:08:48. > :08:52.starting with England's opening game in Derby on 24th June. To have that

:08:53. > :08:56.opportunity to take our team and the sport and the trophy around the

:08:57. > :09:00.country, to try to inspire girls to pick up bats and balls for the first

:09:01. > :09:02.time is a wonderful opportunity. Almost a once-in-a-lifetime

:09:03. > :09:07.opportunity. We haven't had the World Cup in this country for 24

:09:08. > :09:10.years. So a huge amount has changed since that time. We're really

:09:11. > :09:16.looking forward to making the most of that opportunity.

:09:17. > :09:21.The women's cricket World Cup launched today. We will be focussed

:09:22. > :09:25.on the Budget after 11am, but you can keep up-to-date with the sports

:09:26. > :09:30.stories on the website. Thank you.

:09:31. > :09:32.Before any new medicine can be given to patients,

:09:33. > :09:35.detailed information about how it works and how safe it

:09:36. > :09:37.This is done through clinical medical trials.

:09:38. > :09:39.And without volunteers to take part in the trials,

:09:40. > :09:42.there would be no new treatments for serious diseases such as cancer,

:09:43. > :09:47.But one disastrous drug trial at a London hospital in 2006

:09:48. > :09:54.In what became known as the Elephant Man trial,

:09:55. > :09:57.six healthy young men were treated for organ failure after experiencing

:09:58. > :09:59.a serious reaction within hours of taking the drug TGN1412

:10:00. > :10:07.After they were all admitted to intensive care, two

:10:08. > :10:12.The worst affected lost his fingers and toes, and all the men

:10:13. > :10:18.were subsequently told they would be likely to develop cancers

:10:19. > :10:22.or auto-immune diseases as a result of their exposure to the drug.

:10:23. > :10:24.They described feeling like their brains were "on fire"

:10:25. > :10:27.and their "eyeballs were going to pop out".

:10:28. > :10:33.So, why would anyone want to take part in such a trial now?

:10:34. > :10:36.Researchers in the UK are currently part of a worldwide effort

:10:37. > :10:42.to develop a vaccine for Ebola, should another outbreak occur.

:10:43. > :10:45.Our reporter, Catrin Nye, went to visit the Oxford Vaccine Group,

:10:46. > :10:47.a place where they are constantly looking for volunteers

:10:48. > :10:54.Henry is a student in Oxford - one of the people trialling

:10:55. > :11:03.REPORTER: How many blood tests have you had so far?

:11:04. > :11:05.Probably about six or seven, something like that,

:11:06. > :11:14.This is a phase two trial, looking at the response

:11:15. > :11:17.of the immune system in a large group of people,

:11:18. > :11:23.Participants can either get a placebo, so a saline injection,

:11:24. > :11:28.or they get two different Ebola vaccinations.

:11:29. > :11:32.I had some slight fever and chills afterwards,

:11:33. > :11:35.which is an indicator that I had had a vaccine rather than

:11:36. > :11:39.Henry will get paid around ?450 in total for this trial.

:11:40. > :11:42.He'll come here more than a dozen times.

:11:43. > :11:45.I get paid about ?45 a session every time I come in.

:11:46. > :11:47.As a student, you know, you can't complain.

:11:48. > :11:51.He won't actually be given Ebola, that's too dangerous.

:11:52. > :11:54.There was definitely an aspect of, it's quite a current issue.

:11:55. > :11:57.You see it in the news every day, the statistics.

:11:58. > :11:59.How many dead in west Africa with new infections

:12:00. > :12:05.It was definitely a motivator to want to help out.

:12:06. > :12:08.You did some decent research to find out the risks involved in the trial.

:12:09. > :12:11.Just to make sure I wasn't going to get Ebola, as a lot

:12:12. > :12:20.So, I did research just for peace of mind for myself.

:12:21. > :12:24.2014 saw the biggest outbreak of Ebola in history.

:12:25. > :12:34.The viral illness starts with sudden fever and intense weakness but can

:12:35. > :12:39.lead to horrific bleeding, sometimes from the eyes and ears.

:12:40. > :12:42.There was a vaccine available when this happened but it hadn't

:12:43. > :12:49.Thousands of miles away in Oxford, that's what's happening now.

:12:50. > :12:51.When we're in the laboratory, don't touch anything.

:12:52. > :12:57.How many different samples have you got?

:12:58. > :13:04.The vaccine hadn't been tested at the time of the Ebola outbreak

:13:05. > :13:06.because there wasn't really a mechanism to fund that process.

:13:07. > :13:08.There wasn't a commercial argument for development

:13:09. > :13:13.So, it wasn't until it was a big problem that public funding came in.

:13:14. > :13:19.What he's basically saying is the pharmaceutical companies

:13:20. > :13:22.don't have much incentive to pour research and development money

:13:23. > :13:24.into a vaccine that will be used mostly in poor countries

:13:25. > :13:28.by relatively few people, like one for Ebola.

:13:29. > :13:30.It wasn't until public money was provided that

:13:31. > :13:35.The Ebola trial running here today is funded entirely

:13:36. > :13:42.There must be a constant difficulty, or a constant struggle,

:13:43. > :13:45.to know that maybe tens of thousands of people have to die

:13:46. > :13:47.for someone to put the money in to develop a drug.

:13:48. > :13:55.I think we are in such a different position now,

:13:56. > :13:58.where we have a global recognition that there are a number of other

:13:59. > :14:03.Now there are mechanisms being put in place to make sure we are no

:14:04. > :14:06.longer in a position where we have the potential to make

:14:07. > :14:08.vaccines but no-one has actually done it yet.

:14:09. > :14:11.One of the reasons it can be so difficult to get volunteers

:14:12. > :14:14.for clinical trials is that when they go wrong it can make

:14:15. > :14:18.One of the most famous being a private trial

:14:19. > :14:21.at Northwick Park in London in 2006 in what became known

:14:22. > :14:25.Six healthy men were treated for organ failure after a severe

:14:26. > :14:32.reaction just hours after taking the drug they were testing.

:14:33. > :14:36.The worst affected lost his fingers and toes.

:14:37. > :14:38.These are the trials we often hear about,

:14:39. > :14:43.rather than the successful ones happening here today.

:14:44. > :14:47.Anyone that takes part in a clinical trial here needs to go

:14:48. > :14:51.Because of various requirements, and the fact that some trials need

:14:52. > :14:55.very healthy volunteers, around half of people won't make it

:14:56. > :15:04.The research team here allowed me to sit in on one of those screenings

:15:05. > :15:11.Maria's also a student in Oxford and has come to talk

:15:12. > :15:19.There are already two existing licensed vaccines against typhoid,

:15:20. > :15:21.but they're only around 60% effective in adults and far

:15:22. > :15:29.This trial is much more serious than the Ebola one because she'll

:15:30. > :15:31.actually be given typhoid and then treated for it.

:15:32. > :15:33.Because the study involves us deliberately infecting

:15:34. > :15:35.people with typhoid, we have to be fairly strict

:15:36. > :15:44.It's also important that anyone we do enroll understands exactly

:15:45. > :15:48.what it involves and the risks associated with that.

:15:49. > :15:51.We obviously do a screen for hepatitis B, hepatitis C and HIV.

:15:52. > :15:53.There you go, you get a health check as well.

:15:54. > :15:56.Today, Marie and I are learning about the process,

:15:57. > :16:02.the risks and what the study is trying to establish.

:16:03. > :16:05.In this study, we are going to be randomly allocating people.

:16:06. > :16:07.You won't know which and I won't know which.

:16:08. > :16:10.When we challenge people with a normal strain of typhoid,

:16:11. > :16:12.about two thirds of them develop symptoms of illness.

:16:13. > :16:15.You're giving some people a strain of typhoid and some people the same

:16:16. > :16:19.To look at the effects of that toxin.

:16:20. > :16:22.And then with a view to seeing if that could be

:16:23. > :16:27.Crucial here is that Marie does not spread typhoid

:16:28. > :16:29.into the general population, so she's also given

:16:30. > :16:33.strict instructions on hygiene during the trial.

:16:34. > :16:36.This is, of course, a big undertaking for Marie.

:16:37. > :16:38.Researchers here say it is crucially important that people like her do

:16:39. > :16:49.They currently need 60 more people for this typhoid trial.

:16:50. > :16:58.The biggest challenge is finding people who will take part

:16:59. > :17:02.in the studies that involve quite a time commitment to work with us

:17:03. > :17:05.but, actually, the benefits are that it can transform the health

:17:06. > :17:07.of our population and globally in the future.

:17:08. > :17:09.Marie will get paid much more for this typhoid trial

:17:10. > :17:18.She'll have to come in for tests much more, every day at one point.

:17:19. > :17:20.How much of a motivation is the money?

:17:21. > :17:22.I would do it even if the money wasn't there.

:17:23. > :17:25.There's quite a lot of us who realise there are a lot

:17:26. > :17:28.of medical issues in the world and we would like to help but,

:17:29. > :17:31.instead of giving the money to charities where we don't

:17:32. > :17:33.necessarily see exactly what's happening, with a medical trial,

:17:34. > :17:37.we can see that they are working towards something, and a cure,

:17:38. > :17:43.and we are a part of it, rather than just giving our money

:17:44. > :17:46.to someone, saying, "Here you go, just go and do whatever..."

:17:47. > :17:48.So, for you, this is a very, very direct charity.

:17:49. > :18:04.Let's speak now to Bob Berry, a 60-year-old lung cancer patient

:18:05. > :18:08.who was given 18 months to live, but has been left with no trace

:18:09. > :18:11.of the disease after going on a trial of a new drug

:18:12. > :18:20.which hadn't been tested on humans before.

:18:21. > :18:22.And to Nicola Murrells who, October 2014, was given just

:18:23. > :18:24.weeks to live after being diagnosed with bowel cancer.

:18:25. > :18:27.She was involved in a six-month trial of a drug called IMM 101.

:18:28. > :18:37.Hello, both. Bob, tell our audience, you are given 18 months to live,

:18:38. > :18:43.three years ago, what happened? I was diagnosed with lung cancer, the

:18:44. > :18:47.first part of it was having my lungs taken away at Wythenshawe followed

:18:48. > :18:55.by chemotherapy, radiotherapy, another dose of chemotherapy. And

:18:56. > :18:59.none of those worked. I was then referred to the clinical trials at

:19:00. > :19:05.Christies. What we're told about the strokes trail? Pros and cons and I

:19:06. > :19:10.first went through the cons and I thought, do I want to put myself

:19:11. > :19:15.through this because I have escaped side-effects from the chemotherapy

:19:16. > :19:20.already, or radiotherapy? And I did have a bit of a hiccup at first, but

:19:21. > :19:23.they did reassure me and said they were so minor, they have just got to

:19:24. > :19:30.tell you but the chances are you would not be affected. What you

:19:31. > :19:36.think of what has happened? Well, an absolute miracle! That is what it

:19:37. > :19:42.is. It is amazing, it really is. In terms of how you feel and your

:19:43. > :19:46.health now, how well do you feel? To be honest, I have never felt ill

:19:47. > :19:51.from the start to the finish, from when I was first aid nose to where I

:19:52. > :19:59.am now. No side-effects whatsoever. I have been very lucky. It is really

:20:00. > :20:04.interesting to hear from you. Nicola, back in 2014, you were told

:20:05. > :20:10.you had about nine weeks to live. Last year, I was told I had nine

:20:11. > :20:13.weeks to live. It was last year, my mistake, sorry. After being

:20:14. > :20:21.diagnosed with bowel cancer. First, how did you do deal with that

:20:22. > :20:24.diagnosis? I am a mother, I have a little girl who is four and my

:20:25. > :20:29.natural instinct was to think about her and it was heartbreaking to

:20:30. > :20:33.think she will call out for me at night and I will not be there, and

:20:34. > :20:39.had you explain to a four-year-old mummy has only got weeks left to

:20:40. > :20:43.live? It was a real shock to the system and since I have been

:20:44. > :20:47.diagnosed, which was originally in 2014, I have had a strong belief I

:20:48. > :20:53.would survive, and instinct, so to hear the news, was devastating for

:20:54. > :20:58.my husband, my mum, my brother, my close family and friends, it was

:20:59. > :21:03.awful. The drugs you were involved in, the drugs trial, had been tested

:21:04. > :21:08.already on other humans, what were you told about what it might do for

:21:09. > :21:15.you? There is no promises with a drugs trial, as there should not be.

:21:16. > :21:20.When you get to the stage you are classed as terminal, your appetite

:21:21. > :21:29.to try something new changes and drastically increases. So for me, it

:21:30. > :21:32.was about, I have a strong belief in immunotherapy and boosting and

:21:33. > :21:39.giving the body the tools to do the job, so the trial was immunotherapy

:21:40. > :21:44.based and the drugs I am taking, they are also immunotherapy based.

:21:45. > :21:50.There was a risk of autoimmune disease and I also knew there was a

:21:51. > :21:56.chance it could help me. And I really... I am still here, I did not

:21:57. > :22:00.die after the nine weeks. My disease has stabilised and I have got a 20%

:22:01. > :22:07.reduction in tumours which for me, as a mother and a wife, I am 42, it

:22:08. > :22:16.is unbelievable. Do you know how the drug has worked on you? Can you

:22:17. > :22:22.explain? It stimulates your immune system. It sends your immune system

:22:23. > :22:30.into overdrive. Different parts depending on different drugs. One

:22:31. > :22:32.part acts as a vaccine and tries to contain the cancer. Immunotherapy

:22:33. > :22:37.booster is about your body recognising the cancer and being

:22:38. > :22:45.able to detect it and destroy it. It is based on giving your body the

:22:46. > :22:51.tools to do the job. It knows. Our body does not know how to fight back

:22:52. > :22:56.with cancer. Thank you so much, Nicola, it is good to talk to you.

:22:57. > :23:02.Thank you very much. Bob, continued good health, keep on keeping on!

:23:03. > :23:07.Absolutely, yes. Thank you very much, we really appreciate it. Thank

:23:08. > :23:13.you. Some of your amazing comments now

:23:14. > :23:17.reacting to James, the 21-year-old who was on the programme before ten

:23:18. > :23:26.o'clock, who spoke in very brutal terms about his mental health

:23:27. > :23:31.issues. And the fact that joining a football team really is helping him.

:23:32. > :23:35.He says football saved his life. He gave a talk to Parliament last

:23:36. > :23:40.night, which is a massive thing for him. And he agreed to be on the

:23:41. > :23:45.programme to give the talk to you, and so many appreciated it. Jordan

:23:46. > :23:50.e-mailed, thank you so much for showing this on your programme. I am

:23:51. > :23:55.in a dark place at the moment and I cannot see the light, but this is

:23:56. > :24:00.making me see there are people who can help, so thank you, all.

:24:01. > :24:05.Durham says, I have suffered with mental illness all my life, I am 56

:24:06. > :24:08.and had my first anxiety attack at three and a half. My heart goes out

:24:09. > :24:13.to James, I need to tell James Howell proud I am of him and to

:24:14. > :24:17.thank him with all my heart for being so brave, courageous and

:24:18. > :24:21.amazing, what a young man! You are loved and needed by so many, never

:24:22. > :24:24.forget that. Debra says, James is a very brave

:24:25. > :24:29.young man, if I were there now, I would give him the biggest hug! He

:24:30. > :24:32.has shown tremendous courage and I wish he goes on to a bigger and

:24:33. > :24:36.better life. Alfie says, what a remarkable and

:24:37. > :24:42.brave young man, God bless him and good book for his future.

:24:43. > :24:44.Holly, what a courageous young man. David, marvellous young lad, well

:24:45. > :24:48.done. What a brave young man James is,

:24:49. > :24:51.well done, make to come at your words will help others.

:24:52. > :24:55.April, I hope he feels proud and connects with those who often

:24:56. > :24:58.overlook mental health which is such an important issue.

:24:59. > :25:02.Caroline, just be watching a very brave young man talking about his

:25:03. > :25:06.mental health difficulties, please, everyone, take the time to watch

:25:07. > :25:13.this interview. And so it goes on. I could

:25:14. > :25:16.seriously... There are a lot of these messages, thank you for

:25:17. > :25:29.getting in touch. But sharing your love with him. His mum was backing

:25:30. > :25:30.him coming on and the Mental Mental health Football Association backing

:25:31. > :25:34.his decision to speak out. The Crown Prosecution Service has

:25:35. > :25:36.been forced to look again at its decision not to prosecute

:25:37. > :25:39.a far right activist with links to Nazi sympathisers whose comments

:25:40. > :25:42.had included saying England should His name is Jeremy Bedford-Turner -

:25:43. > :26:05.this is him speaking Step back, close our eyes and look

:26:06. > :26:09.at the world as it really is. Look at the problems in this world and

:26:10. > :26:21.look at their source. Let's call a spade a spade! A dog a dog! A rat a

:26:22. > :26:28.rat! Tony Bloom work -- Tony Blair, a well criminal sort it out!

:26:29. > :26:31.The legal action was brought by the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism,

:26:32. > :26:33.who say they're increasingly concerned that the CPS is failing

:26:34. > :26:37.They say of the over 15,000 hate crimes prosecuted

:26:38. > :26:39.by the CPS in 2015, only 12 were prosecutions

:26:40. > :26:50.With us now is our legal correspondent, Clive Coleman.

:26:51. > :26:52.Rabbi Laura Janner-Klausner, from Reform Judaism.

:26:53. > :26:54.And Gideon Falter, Chairman of Campaign Against Anti-Semitism,

:26:55. > :26:57.who brought the legal action against the Crown Prosecution Service.

:26:58. > :27:04.Clive, the background first of this man and what else he was saying. You

:27:05. > :27:11.have a flavour of it. He said, it was a long speech, he said that the

:27:12. > :27:14.French Revolution and the first and second world was, they were

:27:15. > :27:19.massacres that were perpetrated by the Jewish people, that gives a

:27:20. > :27:22.sense of the speech. What happened was that the Crown Prosecution

:27:23. > :27:27.Service, there is evidence because the speech was filmed and it has

:27:28. > :27:30.been posted on YouTube and it has been transcribed. With that

:27:31. > :27:34.evidence, the Crown Prosecution Service decided they would not

:27:35. > :27:40.prosecute him for incitement to racial or religious hatred there

:27:41. > :27:46.then an application for a victim is right of review, a right any

:27:47. > :27:50.potential victim of a potential crime has to ask the CPS to

:27:51. > :27:54.reconsider that decision, and they will apply their normal tests and

:27:55. > :27:59.they will look at the evidence to see if there is a realistic prospect

:28:00. > :28:03.of conviction and if so, whether it is in the public interest to do so.

:28:04. > :28:09.Having declined to prosecute and the claims the requests for a victim

:28:10. > :28:14.right to review, the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism looked to

:28:15. > :28:18.bring a judicial review, to review both decisions. I understand this

:28:19. > :28:23.week, before that, they were successful and before the full

:28:24. > :28:29.judicial review was to take place, the CPS agreed to get a senior

:28:30. > :28:32.lawyer to review the original decision not to prosecute. The

:28:33. > :28:37.reason, they say, is they have advice from a senior lawyer in

:28:38. > :28:40.relation to the consideration of the human rights aspects of the

:28:41. > :28:46.prosecution and it was that that forced them to rethink. More

:28:47. > :28:50.broadly, can I talk with you two about anti-Semitic hate crime

:28:51. > :28:57.generally and the figures I mentioned in the introduction from

:28:58. > :29:01.2015. Gideon, what sort of a year was that for anti-Semitic hate

:29:02. > :29:06.crime? We rely on police statistics and it was the worst year on record,

:29:07. > :29:10.we do not have on the statistics for 2016, but there was a 26% rise in

:29:11. > :29:17.anti-Semitic crime and within that, a 51% rise in violent anti-Semitism.

:29:18. > :29:21.We seen the continued shift from anti-Semitic hate speeches and

:29:22. > :29:26.incitement to actual acts of violent anti-Semitism. For there to only

:29:27. > :29:31.have been 12 prosecutions for anti-Semitism that year is

:29:32. > :29:35.absolutely staggering. Why do you think that is? I don't know why, I

:29:36. > :29:39.am listening to the important thing that it has doubled and that is very

:29:40. > :29:46.worrying. It also needs to be taken in context, that dues live in

:29:47. > :29:51.Britain very happily and safely mainly and we know that the

:29:52. > :29:55.mainstream Community Security Trust who live with the police, they happy

:29:56. > :30:02.beta for all Asian ships and they do get taken extremely seriously. When

:30:03. > :30:08.you look at those figures, one would expect more prosecutions and a

:30:09. > :30:12.higher number than 12. Yes, and something that is interesting is the

:30:13. > :30:15.Community Security Trust complained about this individual and they were

:30:16. > :30:20.also told, we are not going to prosecute. We work very closely with

:30:21. > :30:24.the Home Office and Downing Street and none of that helps when you get

:30:25. > :30:27.to the lower levels of the machinery, so the police who were

:30:28. > :30:33.surrounding him when he made the speech outnumbered him by 15-1 and

:30:34. > :30:38.they failed to make an arrest. And they failed to realise a crime was

:30:39. > :30:41.taking place in front of them until we reported it. The Crown

:30:42. > :30:46.Prosecution Service, supposedly there to do with these cases, it is

:30:47. > :30:48.abjectly failing to bring prosecutions and we are constantly

:30:49. > :30:53.contacted and in this case it was unusual because I was there and I

:30:54. > :30:59.was the victim and I was able to make that complaint. And I assumed

:31:00. > :31:03.that as the person who runs the reading Campaign Against

:31:04. > :31:07.Anti-Semitism in the UK, I assumed this would be taken very seriously

:31:08. > :31:08.and acted on and the fact is, we have had to fight for nearly two

:31:09. > :31:19.years just to get this point. We have to say alleged crime. The

:31:20. > :31:22.Crown Prosecution Service, it is a balancing act, it is a difficult

:31:23. > :31:25.balancing act. There is article 10 of the Human Rights Act which gives

:31:26. > :31:31.the right to freedom of expression. That has to be balanced against

:31:32. > :31:35.Article 17 of the Act which prohibits someone from exercising

:31:36. > :31:39.rights if they are going to be extinguishing the rights of others

:31:40. > :31:42.across the Human Rights Act. It is a balancing act for them, but they

:31:43. > :31:46.have obviously taken on board the fact that they didn't give enough

:31:47. > :31:51.contribution to Article 17 and they will be look at that now in carrying

:31:52. > :31:56.out the balancing act. In the middle of a balance you have this image of

:31:57. > :31:59.a woman of justice, especially on international women's day, holding

:32:00. > :32:04.those two scales and my question is when you have that balance, what is

:32:05. > :32:11.our Prime Minister saying in order to weight that balance in a certain

:32:12. > :32:15.way? And when someone says, I mean, the most unsubtle, pew trid

:32:16. > :32:19.anti-Semitic lies, you don't need a lot in the balance, but what you

:32:20. > :32:23.need is that stabiliser, the pillar in the middle that holds the scales

:32:24. > :32:27.of justice to give clear messages. So one of the reasons maybe, and I

:32:28. > :32:31.don't know, that the CPS didn't move forward with it, is that there

:32:32. > :32:35.hasn't been a strong enough message and particularly now, when we have

:32:36. > :32:39.seen what happened with the Casey review. The Casey review has shown

:32:40. > :32:44.in a way that we have never seen before how parallel, how separate,

:32:45. > :32:49.how enclave so much of Britain is and it has shone a light

:32:50. > :32:53.particularly on white working class areas where hate crimes, speech and

:32:54. > :32:58.crimes are up. So what we see is a total change in the balance in

:32:59. > :33:02.Britain and we're out of balance at the moment because we have Brexit

:33:03. > :33:07.and that is shaky and it makes us feel anxious and we see more

:33:08. > :33:10.expressions of hate across-the-board and so when I look at why this may

:33:11. > :33:16.have happened, I think, what needs to happen in the future, who is

:33:17. > :33:20.holding us in the balance? And the narratives and the enforcement needs

:33:21. > :33:23.to be much stronger. A final word. There are two main questions that

:33:24. > :33:27.need to come out of this. The first is how on earth was it necessary

:33:28. > :33:31.that we should have to take this action in order for the CPS to

:33:32. > :33:42.reconsider its decision? Why is it that Jews have to fight so hard to

:33:43. > :33:48.obtain justice? Why do you think you have to fight harder than others?

:33:49. > :33:54.Anti-semitism, I don't believe in the hierarchy, but anti-semitism is

:33:55. > :34:02.different and anti-semitism casts Jews not as inferior, it casts Jews

:34:03. > :34:07.as superior, you heard what Jeremy Bedford-Turner said there. There is

:34:08. > :34:13.something acceptable about that abuse? A lot of what Jeremy Bedford

:34:14. > :34:17.Turner said was directed at Jewish conspiracy as the state of Israel

:34:18. > :34:22.for example. People, not just on the far-right, but also on the far left

:34:23. > :34:26.and also Islamic extremists use this coded language to refer to Jews and

:34:27. > :34:32.I suppose the second question that comes out of this as well, which is

:34:33. > :34:36.important, is that the CPS got this point of law so badly wrong for two

:34:37. > :34:40.years until they hired a senior QC to defend the case and he told them

:34:41. > :34:41.that they just couldn't win. Thank you all. Thank you very much for

:34:42. > :34:55.coming on the programme. Thank you. Women in Ireland will be protesting

:34:56. > :34:59.on the country's total ban on abortion. We will hear about calls

:35:00. > :35:02.to get more med wives into specialist bereavement training.

:35:03. > :35:07.-- midwives. With the news, here's Annita

:35:08. > :35:14.in the BBC Newsroom. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:35:15. > :35:16.will use his first Budget today to deliver what the Treasury has

:35:17. > :35:19.said will be an "upbeat" assessment of Britain's economic prospects

:35:20. > :35:21.while acknowledging that more He'll stress that the Government

:35:22. > :35:24.won't shirk difficult decisions on tax and spending to deal

:35:25. > :35:26.with the deficit. Lord Heseltine has been sacked

:35:27. > :35:31.as a Government adviser after rebelling over the legislation

:35:32. > :35:34.that will allow Theresa May to begin The Government suffered a second

:35:35. > :35:40.defeat on the Bill in the House of Lords yesterday after peers

:35:41. > :35:42.backed calls for a parliamentary The mother of a missing RAF airman

:35:43. > :35:49.has said new evidence linking a bin lorry to his disappearance "can only

:35:50. > :35:54.mean one thing." Suffolk Police have said the vehicle

:35:55. > :35:57.which was in the area where Corrie McKeague was last seen

:35:58. > :35:59.was carrying a much heavier Mr McKeague, who's 23,

:36:00. > :36:02.vanished during a night out A landfill site is

:36:03. > :36:09.now being searched. A former head of the CIA has said

:36:10. > :36:13.an apparent leak of thousands of the agency's files

:36:14. > :36:14.is incredibly damaging. The documents, which have been

:36:15. > :36:18.published by the website WikiLeaks, appear to reveal attempts to hack

:36:19. > :36:20.into electronic devices One file suggests the CIA and MI5

:36:21. > :36:29.had discovered how to record conversations using a microphone

:36:30. > :36:32.in a Samsung smart TV even when it The CIA has refused to comment

:36:33. > :36:37.on the document's authenticity. But the agency's former director,

:36:38. > :36:39.Michael Hayden said Join me for BBC

:36:40. > :36:54.Newsroom live at 11am. Thank you.

:36:55. > :36:58.Janet says, "It isn't often that I get as emotional watching television

:36:59. > :37:02.as I did watching James. Well done James. It must have been so hard,

:37:03. > :37:06.but I'm certain you will be an inspiration to young people out

:37:07. > :37:10.there. And your brave words could help save lives." Ann says, "James

:37:11. > :37:15.your words resounded with me after I lost my mum. What an intelligent

:37:16. > :37:19.young man and so courageous to speak out about your experience. It is the

:37:20. > :37:24.hardest thing when you feel like your world is shattered and picking

:37:25. > :37:31.up the pieces seem impossible at times. Keep doing what you love,

:37:32. > :37:34.football." Jen says, "James, an extraordinary young man. His courage

:37:35. > :37:37.by appearing on your programme be rewarded by highlighting mental

:37:38. > :37:40.health issues and also the importance of talking about suicide

:37:41. > :37:46.and its effect on families. Also how sport is playing such a huge part in

:37:47. > :37:50.providing a safe, inclusive and supportive environment for young and

:37:51. > :37:53.old to engage with others. Amid so many worrying news issues we need to

:37:54. > :38:03.remember there is a great deal of good in the world." There are so

:38:04. > :38:10.many. One more. Carmen says, "What a brave young man James is. I was in

:38:11. > :38:14.tears. Please let him know. If he was my son, I would be proud of him.

:38:15. > :38:21.I hope he finds happiness which he and his family deserve. Well done,

:38:22. > :38:23.James. Love from Carmen and Mike." We will make sure James gets them

:38:24. > :38:27.all. In sport, Arsene Wenger remains

:38:28. > :38:33.defiant after his side were knocked out of the Champions League,

:38:34. > :38:34.10-2 on aggregate The German champions won 5-1 again,

:38:35. > :38:42.this time at the Emirates, and Wenger blamed what he described

:38:43. > :38:44.as a "revolting" performance from the referee for

:38:45. > :38:51.the extent of the defeat. England ended the She Believes Cup

:38:52. > :38:53.with a narrow 1-0 defeat to European and Olympic champions

:38:54. > :38:56.Germany in Washington. France beat hosts USA

:38:57. > :38:58.3-0 to take the title. The fixtures for this summer's

:38:59. > :39:01.Women's cricket World Cup has been England will begin their home

:39:02. > :39:04.tournament in Derby facing Team Sky say they've made mistakes

:39:05. > :39:14.but take full responsibility for the controversy surrounding

:39:15. > :39:16.Sir Bradley Wiggins and the mystery They deny breaking

:39:17. > :39:19.anti-doping rules. Ireland has a near-total ban

:39:20. > :39:31.on abortion, meaning thousands of women every year travel abroad

:39:32. > :39:33.for a termination, with others breaking the law

:39:34. > :39:44.by taking abortion pills. Today, women around Ireland will

:39:45. > :39:47.protest for a change in the law. They want to see a referendum

:39:48. > :39:49.on the issue in the mainly Our reporter Joel Gunter has been

:39:50. > :39:53.talking to women in Dublin affected This woman was 20 weeks pregnant

:39:54. > :39:57.when she was told her baby had a fatal abnormality and was likely

:39:58. > :40:00.to die before she was born. I sat down and I kind of planned

:40:01. > :40:03.out her life and everything that she was going to do,

:40:04. > :40:06.and all the love I was Claire wanted to have an abortion,

:40:07. > :40:10.but she lives in Ireland where abortion is illegal

:40:11. > :40:13.unless a woman's life is at risk. She couldn't afford to pay

:40:14. > :40:15.for a termination abroad, so she was forced to wait five weeks

:40:16. > :40:18.for her daughter, Alex, I knew she was getting weaker

:40:19. > :40:22.and I knew she was going to die. I couldn't get my head around how

:40:23. > :40:26.I was going to go through with it. How physically, emotionally

:40:27. > :40:28.and mentally was I going Thousands of Irish women every year

:40:29. > :40:32.travel abroad for a termination, or take illegal abortion

:40:33. > :40:37.pills ordered online. Women across Ireland will take part

:40:38. > :40:40.in protest today to call for the repeal of the 8th Amendment,

:40:41. > :40:42.Ireland's constitutional Despite the 8th Amendment,

:40:43. > :40:46.women are having abortions The reason that we're taking

:40:47. > :40:51.this provocative stance is because our government is 50

:40:52. > :40:53.years behind where On the other side of the debate,

:40:54. > :41:00.one of the largest pro-life groups, Youth Defence, uses graphic abortion

:41:01. > :41:03.images to get its message across. Why are you still using the kind

:41:04. > :41:09.of shock tactics we have here today? Well, because they are

:41:10. > :41:11.the reality of abortion. These are children.

:41:12. > :41:15.They are as human as you or I. Just because their lives are short,

:41:16. > :41:18.that doesn't mean their lives And that their lives

:41:19. > :41:21.should be ended. A recent poll suggests more people

:41:22. > :41:24.in Ireland support legalising abortion in limited circumstances,

:41:25. > :41:27.rather than for all women. Pro-choice MP Ruth Coppinger said

:41:28. > :41:29.she feared the anti-abortion laws would be watered down

:41:30. > :41:37.rather than scrapped. The constitution is meant

:41:38. > :41:39.to be of broad statement It shouldn't be dealing

:41:40. > :41:42.with women's bodies. My generation was prevented

:41:43. > :41:44.from changing the 8th Amendment Campaigners at this meeting

:41:45. > :41:57.of pro-choice parents know They said they would continue

:41:58. > :42:01.fighting to give their daughters Abortion is only legal in Ireland

:42:02. > :42:07.if the mother's life it at risk, and not in cases of rape,

:42:08. > :42:09.incest or foetal anomaly. Having one carries

:42:10. > :42:18.a 14-year prison sentence. We can speak now to Niamh Ui Bhriain

:42:19. > :42:22.from The Life Institute. They're based in Ireland,

:42:23. > :42:24.and Campaign Against Abortion. Also with us is Aoife Frances,

:42:25. > :42:26.from Strike4Repeal, in Dublin, which has organised

:42:27. > :42:32.today's planned action. What is the significance of what's

:42:33. > :42:36.happening today? So, we launched the campaign in the end of January and

:42:37. > :42:40.we are calling on the Government to give us a date for a referendum to

:42:41. > :42:44.repeal the eighth. We have been waiting for decades and we have been

:42:45. > :42:47.organising for decades and so obviously the date for the

:42:48. > :42:50.referendum wasn't given so today we are going on strike and we are

:42:51. > :42:53.having action all over Ireland and all over the world to demand that

:42:54. > :42:57.the Government gives us the date for the referendum.

:42:58. > :43:01.What do you think of this action today? Well, think it is very

:43:02. > :43:07.important that your viewers understand that there is no strike

:43:08. > :43:11.for repeal. The media coverage of this campaign is just akin to fake

:43:12. > :43:14.news. We hear a lot about fake news and this is a prime example it. If

:43:15. > :43:18.anybody understands what a strike is, it is when people collectively

:43:19. > :43:21.leave their workplace without the authority of their employees,

:43:22. > :43:24.without pay, to agitate for better conditions. What the abortion

:43:25. > :43:30.campaigners have called for in Ireland is that people take a paid

:43:31. > :43:34.day's leave or wear black or do something else and they're calling

:43:35. > :43:39.that a strike for repeal. It is no such thing and the media coverage of

:43:40. > :43:45.this is just typical of everything abortion campaigners do in this

:43:46. > :43:52.country is covered enthusiastically and eager by by the media here and

:43:53. > :43:56.abroad. They don't reflect the reality of the situation. This is

:43:57. > :43:59.not a strike for repeal because the organisers understand they wouldn't

:44:00. > :44:06.get anybody to come out on strike. Are you saying there is no demand

:44:07. > :44:11.for an amending of the abortion laws in your country? In the case of a

:44:12. > :44:15.woman what has been raped and becomes pregnant, in the case of

:44:16. > :44:18.somebody who is the victim of incest and becomes pregnant. It would be

:44:19. > :44:22.illegal to have an abortion in both those circumstances? Well, I think

:44:23. > :44:25.it is very interesting when you look at the polls, Victoria and they are

:44:26. > :44:29.bad news for the people who are campaigning to repeal the right to

:44:30. > :44:33.life of unborn children because what we're seeing is that despite the

:44:34. > :44:38.enormous amount of money that's come in from abroad for the abortion

:44:39. > :44:41.campaign in Ireland and despite the media support the polls show that

:44:42. > :44:45.support for repealing the eighth amendment has actually fallen and I

:44:46. > :44:48.understand that there are circumstances that are very

:44:49. > :44:51.difficult, and everybody feels for women who are pregnant in these

:44:52. > :44:54.difficult circumstances, but ma the majority of Irish people see is

:44:55. > :45:05.there is always a better answer than abortion. Abortion kills a bye-by.

:45:06. > :45:08.Baby, it hurts a woman. We could do better than reverting to abortion.

:45:09. > :45:11.Why do you believe it is right to force a woman to have a baby, a baby

:45:12. > :45:17.that is conceived because the woman has been raped?

:45:18. > :45:22.This is a very difficult situation, nobody wants to become pregnant

:45:23. > :45:28.after being raped, I understand that. Why is it OK to force women to

:45:29. > :45:36.carry it out? I am answering your question. I am not trying to force

:45:37. > :45:41.anybody. The legislation does. If you would let me finish, Victoria, I

:45:42. > :45:47.am trying to ensure women's support -- received the support they need.

:45:48. > :45:53.Up to 80% of women in any given year who become pregnant because of rape

:45:54. > :45:56.do not look to have an abortion and women have said what they need in

:45:57. > :46:01.these circumstances is long-term support and care. Sorry, can I just

:46:02. > :46:05.finished? They also acknowledge one reason they do not look for an

:46:06. > :46:08.abortion is they see their baby as an innocent party as well, so we

:46:09. > :46:13.need to protect and love them both rather than looking to kill a child

:46:14. > :46:17.is a solution to a crisis in pregnancy. How do you respond to

:46:18. > :46:23.that? I did not think we would be talking about fake news, anyway. The

:46:24. > :46:26.strike today is symbolic and follows symbolic strikes around the world,

:46:27. > :46:31.we have as people to take an annual leave day which people have,

:46:32. > :46:37.thousands of students and parents have organised. We have over 50

:46:38. > :46:41.regional groups in Ireland and the world, from Aberdeen to Argentina so

:46:42. > :46:44.that thousands taking part today, so not sure what the significance of

:46:45. > :46:51.the point about the strike was, it is a social strike. We would not as

:46:52. > :46:55.people to work -- into their workplaces because that is not an

:46:56. > :46:59.industrial dispute. But there is a huge amount of support. In terms of

:47:00. > :47:05.the comments about rape and incest, I don't feel like that and so was

:47:06. > :47:09.sufficient. 4,000 women a year travel from Ireland to the UK to

:47:10. > :47:13.access abortion, that is 12 women a day. I don't think she has the right

:47:14. > :47:18.to speak on behalf of women and what they choose to do because women are

:47:19. > :47:21.already making this choice, Irish abortions happen, women who live

:47:22. > :47:28.here travel to the UK and thousands more get abortion help. These

:47:29. > :47:32.abortions already happen and we need to support women's rights to choose

:47:33. > :47:37.and make sure the abortions are safe and accessible because they are

:47:38. > :47:41.already happening. A couple of points to go back on, Ireland's

:47:42. > :47:47.abortion rate in contract to Britain is very low and has been falling for

:47:48. > :47:51.the last 11 years. One in every five babies in Britain is aborted before

:47:52. > :47:56.birth and in Ireland, that is one in every 20. If we adopted the British

:47:57. > :48:01.model of abortion, we would see an increase of 10,000 abortions every

:48:02. > :48:06.year and I know from going door and my organisation is doing a massive

:48:07. > :48:09.national canvass on this issue and most reasonable people would tell

:48:10. > :48:13.you they don't want more abortion, in my view, any decent person should

:48:14. > :48:18.not want more abortions to take place. They say this precisely

:48:19. > :48:22.because they recognise that our two people involved in any pregnancy and

:48:23. > :48:27.they want a model created where we look after both mother and baby.

:48:28. > :48:32.People never seem to grasp this reality and they do not recognise

:48:33. > :48:38.the humanity of the baby, and science and medicine says that

:48:39. > :48:42.cannot be denied. That our two human beings involved in every pregnancy

:48:43. > :48:45.and if we want to be progressive and compassionate, and I believe this

:48:46. > :48:50.country does, we need to look at solutions to care for both mother

:48:51. > :48:51.and baby instead of all the same, let's kill the child.

:48:52. > :48:55.Thank you, both. Today's the day where the man

:48:56. > :48:58.in charge of Government finances - the Chancellor, Philip Hammond -

:48:59. > :49:00.updates us all on the state of the economy, the UK

:49:01. > :49:02.Government's spending plans, The Chancellor's decisions

:49:03. > :49:14.will affect all of us. Norman is in Westminster. A grey day

:49:15. > :49:19.in Westminster and that is possibly appropriate as it might be a great

:49:20. > :49:22.Budget. You normally get a big drum roll and promises of all sorts of

:49:23. > :49:27.policies and announcements, quite the reverse this time. The attitude

:49:28. > :49:31.is almost, move along, please, nothing is happening here. The

:49:32. > :49:35.reason, the Chancellor believes there is no SPAM money around. That

:49:36. > :49:41.comment? Let's discuss that with Labour MP Wes Streeting and former

:49:42. > :49:44.Chief Whip Mark Harper. It is a choice the Chancellor is making, he

:49:45. > :49:49.could find the money for public services struggling, through taxes,

:49:50. > :49:54.borrowing, taxes, but he does not want to. The Chancellor made it

:49:55. > :49:58.clear early in the week that although the economic news may be

:49:59. > :50:03.reasonably upbeat, we are still running a deficit. He does not have

:50:04. > :50:06.suddenly spare --. He may have the ability to borrow more money but as

:50:07. > :50:11.he said, because your credit card limit has increased, you do not have

:50:12. > :50:19.the run up more debt, that is how we got into the public finance mess. We

:50:20. > :50:23.have been borrowing for years and we face a crisis now in social care, so

:50:24. > :50:26.why does he not step in? The Government already has made

:50:27. > :50:31.available more money for social care, both directly and enabling

:50:32. > :50:35.councils to increase the social care precept part of the council tax, but

:50:36. > :50:39.as he pointed out, some local authorities deal with social care

:50:40. > :50:44.really well and do not have severe problems, others not so well. Part

:50:45. > :50:48.of it is about money and part of its spending money most effectively. The

:50:49. > :50:55.Labour response seems to be to keep borrowing and borrowing. That is our

:50:56. > :50:59.message today, there are areas the Government needs to invest in

:51:00. > :51:04.property tree care because per head spending in the NHS is going down in

:51:05. > :51:08.coming years although pressures are going up because of the ageing

:51:09. > :51:13.population, and schools in my constituency face Budget cuts.

:51:14. > :51:19.Budget is determined the priorities of the Government and by any

:51:20. > :51:23.measure, people across the country... Spending in real terms on

:51:24. > :51:27.health and education are going down when they should be priorities.

:51:28. > :51:31.Maybe the Chancellor is being canny, Brexit is down the road and we don't

:51:32. > :51:36.know what it will be like when we leave and the impact on the economy

:51:37. > :51:41.so maybe he is playing it cautious and keeping money back. Some of the

:51:42. > :51:44.cuts he is making now, particularly around Health and Social Care Act,

:51:45. > :51:48.will have longer term impacts the cost is more. You are right to talk

:51:49. > :51:51.about the looming backdrop which is Europe. Just last week, the former

:51:52. > :51:55.Conservative Prime Minister John Major argued the government has set

:51:56. > :51:59.us on a course with a different economic model, so we can no longer

:52:00. > :52:02.afford public service the way we could, and even George Osborne said

:52:03. > :52:07.the House of Commons the comment has chosen not to make the economy the

:52:08. > :52:11.priority. If I was Philip Hammond against a structural weakness in the

:52:12. > :52:16.economy, pressure on finances, and Brexit, and would be very worried.

:52:17. > :52:24.Is the reason public services do not get money because of fears of what

:52:25. > :52:27.Brexit means? No, we have protected spending on the health service and

:52:28. > :52:32.schools in real terms, so we are investing for the future. I am very

:52:33. > :52:35.pleased the Chancellor is cautious and the public want a Finance

:52:36. > :52:39.Minister who is cautious and careful with their money. Thanks very much.

:52:40. > :52:42.I am seriously concerned for the well-being of the White Rabbit

:52:43. > :52:44.because it looks like this is the first Budget in a long time when we

:52:45. > :52:48.don't see any! Thank you very much.

:52:49. > :52:51.The Royal College of Midwives is calling for more midwives to be

:52:52. > :52:54.trained to specialise in bereavement as, at the moment, there is no

:52:55. > :52:56.mandatory training for maternity staff to deal with the issue and no

:52:57. > :53:02.That's despite around 15 babies dying before,

:53:03. > :53:04.during or soon after birth every day in England and Wales.

:53:05. > :53:09.And in the UK in 2015, one in every 227 births was a stillbirth.

:53:10. > :53:11.We can speak now to Laura Wyatt who, last night, was named

:53:12. > :53:16.She's been a midwife for 16 years and was nominated by Jodie Vaughan,

:53:17. > :53:21.whose first son died whilst she was in labour in 2015.

:53:22. > :53:24.Laura went on to provide antenatal care during Jodie's very

:53:25. > :53:38.Jodie is in Cardiff now with her eight-month-old, Henry. Hello, thank

:53:39. > :53:43.you for coming on. Jodie, how did Laura help you? She helped immensely

:53:44. > :53:49.as a family going through such an awful time. She helped with very

:53:50. > :53:54.small tasks, two massive things that we could never have done it by

:53:55. > :54:02.ourselves. From the funeral arrangements to supporting,

:54:03. > :54:05.supporting and chasing nationals and helping others and being there for

:54:06. > :54:10.us and laughing with those and crying with ours. And just being her

:54:11. > :54:18.caring self, really. Without her, but would not have had my necklace

:54:19. > :54:22.with my baby's fingerprint, Archie's fingerprint. So she has just been

:54:23. > :54:27.immense and she helped us through a pregnancy with Henry and hopefully

:54:28. > :54:31.for future pregnancies as well. Any time I was worried all scared or

:54:32. > :54:36.anxious, about anything that would happen in pregnancy with Henry, she

:54:37. > :54:44.helped me and got me a scan as soon as was possible. Let me bring in

:54:45. > :54:47.Laura. From what Jodie has described, it is a practical side of

:54:48. > :54:51.things, it is very much the emotional side of things. Yes,

:54:52. > :54:56.absolutely, and doing things at the pace of the parent, not to overwhelm

:54:57. > :55:03.them. They are going to a process of immense grief. So it is just

:55:04. > :55:08.sometimes a case of going, going three things time and time again

:55:09. > :55:16.will stop at their own pace. And they need, then needs for the

:55:17. > :55:22.funeral arrangements. Getting the fingerprints for Jodie's necklace.

:55:23. > :55:25.Little things. That was Jodie's idea, but I did it. Just those

:55:26. > :55:33.little practical things that you want to make it a bit easier for the

:55:34. > :55:37.parents during their immense grief. Have you had that specialist

:55:38. > :55:44.training? I have been very proactive myself with regards to going on

:55:45. > :55:50.bereavement training courses. I have done counselling courses, so it is

:55:51. > :55:53.something I have been very proactive in, the Royal College of Midwives

:55:54. > :55:57.has a learning package, to develop by role, so I have been very

:55:58. > :56:03.proactive with regards to bereavement care and I am very much

:56:04. > :56:07.involved in the maternity network in Wales for the bereavement subgroup

:56:08. > :56:09.and I am very lucky that I have got a head of midwifery and senior

:56:10. > :56:14.management colleagues that really support my role. What does this

:56:15. > :56:20.would mean to you and the facts Jodie nominated you? To win the

:56:21. > :56:29.regional was absolutely amazing, but to win overall! Still in a bit of

:56:30. > :56:38.shock, I think. For Jodie to even explore, and think that is what, it

:56:39. > :56:46.was that gut feeling. Yes, Jodie felt that I have given her the care

:56:47. > :56:49.that she wanted. Bless them. Parents, it is unbelievable. And

:56:50. > :56:53.well done to the other nominees as well, I think we all do a great job.

:56:54. > :56:57.Thank you very much. Thank you so much for going into our studio in

:56:58. > :57:04.Cardiff and thank you to Henry. Thank you. So many comments from you

:57:05. > :57:09.about James, the 21-year-old on our programme before ten o'clock,

:57:10. > :57:15.talking about his mental health issues after he lost his father who

:57:16. > :57:19.took his own life and James's 15th birthday. James told us how when he

:57:20. > :57:24.was sectioned in a psychiatric unit, one of the occupational therapist

:57:25. > :57:27.said, do you want to play football? You said, O K.

:57:28. > :57:33.And football has saved his life. Kevin says, I am a 60-year-old man

:57:34. > :57:37.with cancer and clinical depression, I have a 24-year-old son. I have

:57:38. > :57:41.felt less like living and have thoughts of ending my life. It must

:57:42. > :57:45.have been fake I turned on to watch games this morning. My son is as

:57:46. > :57:49.wonderful as James and to put him through what James has gone through

:57:50. > :57:52.and is going through is something I can no longer contemplate after

:57:53. > :57:56.watching James. Thank you, James, you have to stick standard my life

:57:57. > :58:02.and saved damaging my son's, good luck.

:58:03. > :58:05.-- you have just saved my life. Debbie says, I have never contacted

:58:06. > :58:09.a TV programme, I am moved to conduct you because of the young man

:58:10. > :58:14.James. I suffered from psychosis when I was 15 in the 1980s. I still

:58:15. > :58:19.feel like a misfit, watching and listening to James has inspired me

:58:20. > :58:25.to do something else. With my life. James can go on national TV to bare

:58:26. > :58:27.his soul, so I can do this as well. He is inspirational and I am

:58:28. > :58:32.grateful to him. Thank you so much for getting in

:58:33. > :58:34.touch. Joanna is here tomorrow from nine a.m., have a good day.

:58:35. > :58:37.The thing that's so clear is that it's 100% honest.

:58:38. > :58:41.We're right in the middle of the action.

:58:42. > :58:46.The remarkable story of British photography.