:00:16. > :00:17.Hello it's Monday, it's 9.00am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
:00:18. > :00:21.This morning: could cancer sniffing dogs save lives and millions
:00:22. > :00:32.I want to tell you something extraordinary with pioneering change
:00:33. > :00:42.on how we diagnose cancer and people living
:00:43. > :00:45.leader Iain Duncan Smith calls with serious
:00:46. > :00:51.And he meets some of the people whose lives have also been saved
:00:52. > :00:55.by dogs trained to spot signs of diabetes.
:00:56. > :01:02.I am going to go to bed and my husband doesn't have to worry when
:01:03. > :01:07.he wakes up in the morning, I will be dead next to him. Simple things
:01:08. > :01:08.like that, it is difficult to put into words, but that is what it's
:01:09. > :01:10.like having magic. We'll bring you the
:01:11. > :01:18.full story shortly. Also on the programme -
:01:19. > :01:21.the final hurdle before the UK officially begins divorce
:01:22. > :01:35.proceedings from the EU gets Tory MPs and peers paving the way
:01:36. > :01:37.for Theresa May to trigger Article 50 as early as tomorrow morning.
:01:38. > :01:40.And aid agencies are warning that time is running out
:01:41. > :01:42.to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine
:01:43. > :01:46.We'll be live in those four affected countries and ask whether the world
:01:47. > :01:54.is doing enough to tackle a humanitarian crisis.
:01:55. > :02:08.We will bring you the latest breaking news and developing
:02:09. > :02:12.stories. We are going to talk about a case in the Supreme Court which
:02:13. > :02:16.could have profound legal implications for policing because it
:02:17. > :02:21.will determine whether officers can be sued by victims if they don't
:02:22. > :02:23.investigate a case adequately. Plus, find out who was in this box and
:02:24. > :02:28.why. Get in touch. Use #Victoria Live and if you text,
:02:29. > :02:38.you will be charged The bill which gives Theresa May the
:02:39. > :02:41.power to trigger the Brexit process enters its final stages in the House
:02:42. > :02:46.of Commons later. Ministers believe they have enough support to overturn
:02:47. > :02:49.the two changes made to the bill by the House of Lords. One guarantees
:02:50. > :02:54.the rights of EU nationals living here. The other, ensures parliament
:02:55. > :02:58.will be given a meaningful vote on any exit deal. Norman Smith is at
:02:59. > :03:08.Westminster. This is almost it, what is likely to
:03:09. > :03:12.happen today, Norman? The truth is, by the end of the day, Theresa May
:03:13. > :03:15.will have got her bill paving the way to leave the EU through
:03:16. > :03:23.Parliament unamended. I said that because talking to rebel Tory MPs,
:03:24. > :03:28.who will get a vote on those two changes proposed by the House of
:03:29. > :03:32.Lords, guaranteeing the right of EU nationals, guaranteeing Parliament
:03:33. > :03:40.vote. They are not in the mood to have a real fight. My sense is, Tory
:03:41. > :03:44.rebels will back down, provided ministers make some reassurance,
:03:45. > :03:49.saying they understand. I think they will back off. When the measure goes
:03:50. > :03:53.back to the House of Lords, although Liberal Democrat peers are talking
:03:54. > :04:02.about getting camp beds in, preparing to stay all night to fight
:04:03. > :04:05.this, hour by hour, the reality is, when you put together Labour peers,
:04:06. > :04:09.crossbench peers, they too will back down which means about midnight or
:04:10. > :04:14.so, I suspect the reason may well have her Article 50 bill. Albeit,
:04:15. > :04:17.this morning Jeremy Corbyn was saying, he still wants parliament to
:04:18. > :04:28.be kept in the loop during the negotiations. We don't have Jeremy
:04:29. > :04:35.Corbyn! Sorry about that. If it goes the way you have just described it
:04:36. > :04:40.today, what, when will Theresa May trigger Article 50, the process for
:04:41. > :04:44.us to begin the negotiations to leave the European Union? The truth
:04:45. > :04:48.is, if anyone says they know when Theresa May is going to trigger
:04:49. > :04:53.Article 50, I think they are telling a porky. The only person who really
:04:54. > :04:58.knows, really knows is Theresa May herself. I am guessing, but I think
:04:59. > :05:04.she will be waiting to see how the debate goes today. The mood of
:05:05. > :05:10.Parliament. She will also want to see the reaction in tomorrow's
:05:11. > :05:14.papers. I feel personally, she will go sooner, rather than later, maybe
:05:15. > :05:18.even tomorrow, just to show she is on the front foot, pressing ahead,
:05:19. > :05:23.got momentum and is not hanging around until the end of the month.
:05:24. > :05:25.My gut instinct is she will go sooner rather than later and back
:05:26. > :05:27.could be tomorrow. Joanna is in the BBC
:05:28. > :05:29.Newsroom with a summary A British man has been jailed
:05:30. > :05:34.for six years in Indonesia, over the killing of a policeman
:05:35. > :05:39.on the island of Bali. Our South East Asia Correspondent,
:05:40. > :05:50.Jonathan Head is following What more can you tell us about this
:05:51. > :05:55.case, Jonathan? It is a disturbing and baffling case in some ways.
:05:56. > :06:02.David Taylor was a DJ living in Australia. He was visiting Bali with
:06:03. > :06:07.his Australian girlfriend, Sarah, last August. They had just arrived.
:06:08. > :06:11.On the beach that night they had an altercation with a police officer,
:06:12. > :06:19.who they believe was involved in taking Sarah,'s bag. That
:06:20. > :06:23.altercation ended up in a fight in which David Taylor struck the
:06:24. > :06:27.policeman several times, apparently with a bottle and other items and
:06:28. > :06:32.then left him, although took his credit cards and his phone. The
:06:33. > :06:37.policeman later died on the beach where he was left. The couple were
:06:38. > :06:41.apprehended a couple of days later. In the end they were not charged
:06:42. > :06:46.with murder, they were charged with assault, leading to death. That is
:06:47. > :06:51.what he has been convicted. We understand he is not going to
:06:52. > :06:57.contest the sentence I think he may view, given the outcome of his
:06:58. > :07:00.fight, there were apparently 42 injuries on the policeman, getting a
:07:01. > :07:05.six-year sentence might be considered lenient. His girlfriend,
:07:06. > :07:09.Sarah Connor may appeal her sentence. She argued she only tried
:07:10. > :07:13.to intervene in the fight to stop it, but was convicted of being an
:07:14. > :07:18.accessory and got four years in prison. It is a strange case. There
:07:19. > :07:22.doesn't seem to be any reason why in incident turned out as violently as
:07:23. > :07:25.this one did. The sentence today won't surprise anybody. Thank you,
:07:26. > :07:29.Jonathan. Rail staff from three firms
:07:30. > :07:31.across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over
:07:32. > :07:33.the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day
:07:34. > :07:36.in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated
:07:37. > :07:37.trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for
:07:38. > :07:41.Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's
:07:42. > :07:45.about modernising services Police are launching
:07:46. > :07:52.an unprecedented appeal at the Supreme Court
:07:53. > :07:55.against a ruling it failed the victims of one of the UK's
:07:56. > :07:58.most dangerous rapists. Judges said Scotland Yard had
:07:59. > :08:00.breached the human rights of two women because officers didn't
:08:01. > :08:02.properly investigate John Worboys who was jailed for life in 2009
:08:03. > :08:05.after committing more The outcome of the case
:08:06. > :08:10.could have profound legal A trusted Black Cab driver,
:08:11. > :08:21.but one of the country's John Worboys attacked more than 100
:08:22. > :08:25.women over six years, hunting them down late at night
:08:26. > :08:28.in London with an elaborate trick. He'd show off a bag of cash claiming
:08:29. > :08:32.it was a big gambling win and offer Few of his victims could entirely
:08:33. > :08:38.remembered what happened next Few of his victims could entirely
:08:39. > :08:41.remember what happened next and police did not take
:08:42. > :08:42.their complaints seriously. One of his victims from 2007
:08:43. > :08:45.had her account dismissed. Had the officers who looked
:08:46. > :08:48.at my case taken my allegations seriously, they would've found
:08:49. > :08:51.substantial pieces of evidence. They didn't do that,
:08:52. > :08:54.and as a result, so many more women The botched investigation led
:08:55. > :08:58.to a landmark ruling by the High Court that Scotland Yard
:08:59. > :09:01.breached the human rights of the women, and that
:09:02. > :09:05.means police can be sued. The force is now challenging that
:09:06. > :09:10.unprecedented ruling. This case is really important
:09:11. > :09:13.because women need to be able to hold police to account
:09:14. > :09:15.when they fail as catastrophically If the police had acted sooner,
:09:16. > :09:20.if they'd listened to the women, and if they had followed their own
:09:21. > :09:24.policies, it's likely that fewer As it was, he was
:09:25. > :09:28.left on the streets. The force admits it made mistakes
:09:29. > :09:30.but argues that important legal If the justices rule
:09:31. > :09:35.against the Met, it could have profound implications about how
:09:36. > :09:37.police chiefs prioritise serious After 9.30 this morning,
:09:38. > :09:49.Victoria will be talking to a former Met Dectective inspector,
:09:50. > :09:52.who was with the Met at the time Worboys committed his early crimes,
:09:53. > :09:55.and a woman who was raped by two strangers two years ago,
:09:56. > :09:59.when she 18 years old. Aid agencies are warning that time
:10:00. > :10:02.is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine
:10:03. > :10:04.in four African countries. There's growing concern
:10:05. > :10:06.about four countries in particular, Nigeria,
:10:07. > :10:10.South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst
:10:11. > :10:14.humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent
:10:15. > :10:22.help many will simply starve. After 10.00, Victoria
:10:23. > :10:24.will be talking to aid agencies in Nigeria,
:10:25. > :10:36.South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. NHS trials are currently assessing
:10:37. > :10:39.if dogs could also be used to detect One study shows that specially
:10:40. > :10:42.trained dogs can pick up the presence of such cancer in urine
:10:43. > :10:46.samples in 93 % of cases. the presence of such cancer in urine
:10:47. > :10:49.samples in 93% of cases. Coming up on Victoria Derbyshire,
:10:50. > :10:51.we have an exclusive film with the former Conservative Party
:10:52. > :10:53.leader, Iain Duncan Smith, who's drawing attention to research
:10:54. > :10:56.happening in the UK, which aims to show how dogs can
:10:57. > :10:59.help diagnose cancer. The Queen is launching
:11:00. > :11:01.the Commonwealth Games Baton relay The relay marks the start
:11:02. > :11:05.of the countdown to The Games which will be held in
:11:06. > :11:07.April next year. Over 388 days the baton
:11:08. > :11:11.will visit all 71 Commonwealth countries, before arriving
:11:12. > :11:13.at the Australian Gold Coast That's a summary
:11:14. > :11:39.of the latest Palace. We will have a dog in the studio who
:11:40. > :11:41.saved his own's life thousands and thousands of times.
:11:42. > :11:44.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning use the hashtag Victoria
:11:45. > :11:46.live and If you text, you will be charged
:11:47. > :11:50.Time for the sport now with Hugh and the giant-killing
:11:51. > :12:02.The semi-finals will involve four of the best teams
:12:03. > :12:14.If you are a supporter of those teams, it is marvellous, if you are
:12:15. > :12:26.not, you are like, really? The likes of Sutton getting to the
:12:27. > :12:29.fifth round and Lincoln getting to the quarterfinals, it is rare to
:12:30. > :12:36.have four of the top six sides contesting the semifinals. I think
:12:37. > :12:39.it has happened only twice in at least 20 years and with Manchester
:12:40. > :12:44.United and Chelsea having the chance to join the three already true, that
:12:45. > :12:48.will be the case later. Lincoln did ever so well to get to the
:12:49. > :12:53.quarterfinals and also until nearly half time until Theo Walcott got the
:12:54. > :12:59.first of five goals for Arsenal in that much. Eventually losing and
:13:00. > :13:06.their fairy tale run may be over, but their heads are high. Danny
:13:07. > :13:09.Cowley and his brother who is the assistant, the Lincoln management
:13:10. > :13:13.team got to spend an hour or so with Arsene Wenger after the game. They
:13:14. > :13:18.will appreciate that time. Arsenal are now two to the third semifinal
:13:19. > :13:22.in four years. They will it the other times. Across north London,
:13:23. > :13:43.Spurs went one better. No doubt hoping to do exactly that. They won
:13:44. > :13:48.6-0. Millwall have beaten two of the Premier League sides on their way to
:13:49. > :13:49.the quarterfinals. But you are right, the giant-killing is done for
:13:50. > :13:50.another year. Could Millwall be in trouble
:13:51. > :14:02.with the FA because of the behaviour They may be, the FA will be looking
:14:03. > :14:14.at some of the chanting that seemed to have a racist element. They were
:14:15. > :14:18.aimed at Sonia men. The FA will ask for observations from both the
:14:19. > :14:25.clubs. Neil Harris said at the time he didn't hear anything and he
:14:26. > :14:36.doesn't condone it and any guilty fans will be dealt with harshly.
:14:37. > :14:41.Now, I know you're nowhere near the age of 50, Hugh...
:14:42. > :14:57.But I'm assuming you'll be hanging up your football boots well
:14:58. > :14:59.before you get there - there's a Japanese player
:15:00. > :15:09.This man is 50 and still scoring competitively in professional
:15:10. > :15:14.matches. He has broken the record held by Sir Stanley Matthews. He was
:15:15. > :15:20.the oldest player to score a goal in professional football at the age of
:15:21. > :15:34.50 years and five days. But this Japanese player made his debut in 19
:15:35. > :15:40.76. He scored Big E Raqqa goal in his second division match. It is
:15:41. > :15:44.quite impressive. Not only that, he is psychic. He said the vibes were
:15:45. > :15:47.with him before he scored that goal, he had a feeling. Thank you very
:15:48. > :15:51.much. Much more from you later. Those of you who watch our programme
:15:52. > :15:54.regularly will know that every so often we ask an MP to make a film
:15:55. > :15:57.for us about an issue When we approached former
:15:58. > :16:00.Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who is the former
:16:01. > :16:03.Work and Pensions Secretary and one of the highest profile campaigners
:16:04. > :16:06.to leave the EU the subject he was most passionate
:16:07. > :16:08.about surprised us. He chose to draw attention
:16:09. > :16:10.to some incredible research happening in the UK,
:16:11. > :16:14.which aims to show how dogs - can help us to diagnose cancer
:16:15. > :16:17.in the very early stages. Initial studies show specially
:16:18. > :16:19.trained dogs can detect prostate Iain Duncan Smith's wife Betsy
:16:20. > :16:24.was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2009 and became involved
:16:25. > :16:29.with the charity "medical detection dogs" which is what sparked
:16:30. > :16:31.Mr Duncan Smith's interest. Here's his exclusive
:16:32. > :16:43.film for this programme. My name is Iain Duncan Smith. I'm
:16:44. > :16:46.the member of Parliament for Chingford and Woodford Green. I used
:16:47. > :16:51.to be a member of the Cabinet, but I'm not here to talk about politics,
:16:52. > :16:57.I'm here to talk about something much, much more interesting.
:16:58. > :17:00.In this film, I want to tell you about something extraordinary. About
:17:01. > :17:04.pioneering research with the potential to change how we diagnose
:17:05. > :17:07.cancer and how people living with serious illness can be helped to
:17:08. > :17:16.manage their conditions with the help of this lot and their
:17:17. > :17:21.remarkable sense of smell. Dogs like these are capable of
:17:22. > :17:26.detecting the tiniest of odour concentration. I mean up to one part
:17:27. > :17:33.per trillion, and maybe even more, but what does that mean? Imagine one
:17:34. > :17:38.teaspoon of sugar, dissolved not just in one Olympic sized swimming
:17:39. > :17:42.pool, but in two Olympic sized swimming pools and the dogs can
:17:43. > :17:46.detect that. That means that once properly trained they're able to
:17:47. > :17:50.detect odours associated with disease in human beings. In other
:17:51. > :18:00.words these dogs are capable of literally sniffing out disease.
:18:01. > :18:05.Experts agree that early detection is the most important factor in
:18:06. > :18:11.surviving cancer and the research has been conducted here offers an
:18:12. > :18:14.opportunity for us to drast drastically improve the early
:18:15. > :18:19.detection of the disease. In this test, a specially trained cancer
:18:20. > :18:24.detection dog is told to circle a carousel holding eight evenly spaced
:18:25. > :18:27.urine samples. One is from a patient with prostate cancer and the other
:18:28. > :18:32.seven are from healthy individuals. Indication four. Remarkably, the dog
:18:33. > :18:38.is able to detect the sample from the cancer patient. Well, that was
:18:39. > :18:42.amazing. I mean, I have never seen anything like that. How do you
:18:43. > :18:46.actually get the dogs to do all that, to train, to make sure they
:18:47. > :18:51.check the right samples? How does that come about? Well, all our work
:18:52. > :19:01.is based on positive reinforcement, the dog wants to come in and search
:19:02. > :19:05.the samples and gets paid. He understands the scent of prostate
:19:06. > :19:10.cancer means a reward. He gets a sound and food. Is there a certain
:19:11. > :19:14.number or a person percentage of times that if a dog isn't getting it
:19:15. > :19:18.right, you say, do you know what, I can't use that dog? What is that
:19:19. > :19:23.like? When we are looking at the development of the dog, we're
:19:24. > :19:28.looking at reliability of 85%, 90%, we need to make sure the dog is
:19:29. > :19:32.operating at that level. I heard these remarkable stories, stories...
:19:33. > :19:36.As Chief Executive of the charity Medical Detection Dogs, Dr Clare
:19:37. > :19:40.Guest is a leading figure in driving this research forward. In fact, her
:19:41. > :19:44.interest in this area began after she was alerted by her own dog to a
:19:45. > :19:50.potentially life threatening condition. One of my dogs, Daisy,
:19:51. > :19:54.she is a bladder cancer detection dog started behaving differently
:19:55. > :19:57.around me. She started giving me a worried look and started nudging at
:19:58. > :20:02.my chest, it led me to investigate and I found a lump. I went to the
:20:03. > :20:06.doctor's and was referred and to cut a long story short, I was diagnosed
:20:07. > :20:12.with a very early stage breast cancer. I was fascinated by Clare's
:20:13. > :20:16.story, but I wanted to be sure that the research being under taken by
:20:17. > :20:21.Clare's team was meeting the highest scientific standards. How reliable
:20:22. > :20:26.do you think the science is? How robust are you? So this is really,
:20:27. > :20:29.really rigorous work. We don't know exactly what it is the dogs use to
:20:30. > :20:34.make the identification that cancer is there, but we know it is a
:20:35. > :20:38.volatile, we know it is a smell. In fact, studies published in France,
:20:39. > :20:41.Italy and elsewhere have confirmed the extraordinary potential of dogs
:20:42. > :20:45.to assist with the diagnosis of disease in human beings and Clare's
:20:46. > :20:50.team is working on one of the largest studies to date. We're doing
:20:51. > :20:54.an incredibly robust clinical trial. We've got 3,000 patients involved in
:20:55. > :20:58.this next trial detecting prostate cancer from urine. Over the next few
:20:59. > :21:04.years we'll fund the results and the ability of the dogs to do this over
:21:05. > :21:08.a large sample patient size. What do you say to the clinicians who say,
:21:09. > :21:12.that's very nice and all very well, but we can't have dogs running
:21:13. > :21:15.around in GPs surgeries, you know, just sniffing everybody, that's
:21:16. > :21:19.ludicrous and the other thing they say is, this is a matter of life and
:21:20. > :21:23.death. You can't have dogs involved in life and death, it is too
:21:24. > :21:27.serious. How do you get through that barrier in a sense of praej tis, how
:21:28. > :21:30.do you get through that and show them this is pure science? Well,
:21:31. > :21:33.there is a number of ways. Firstly, the dog doesn't have to be in the
:21:34. > :21:38.hospital sniffing around the patient. The samples come to the dog
:21:39. > :21:44.in the training facility and the dog give their answer and the result
:21:45. > :21:49.goes back to the clinician. The dog is a highly sophisticated biosensor.
:21:50. > :21:54.Evolution has given him this highly sensitive nose. We're talking about
:21:55. > :21:58.a science here, we're not talking about fluffy dogs. The other thing
:21:59. > :22:01.is, that I'd say to you as well, you rely on dogs every day when you go
:22:02. > :22:08.into the House of Commons. You rely on the dogs to ensure your safety.
:22:09. > :22:11.People board planes every day that have been screened by detector dogs
:22:12. > :22:16.to see if there is explosives on board. That's a life and death
:22:17. > :22:19.decision. Why do we rely on them and not with health? How much support
:22:20. > :22:22.has the Government been giving you and where do you think the future
:22:23. > :22:26.lies? To date we have no support from the Government. And you think
:22:27. > :22:32.this could literally save lives? Absolutely. I know this can save
:22:33. > :22:36.lives. It saved my life and that inspired me to keep going. I am a
:22:37. > :22:42.scientist and I love the scientist. We are talking about a robust study
:22:43. > :22:48.and the ability of a biosensor to detect a disease. . Like Clare, my
:22:49. > :22:53.interest in this research is more than academic. It's personal. The
:22:54. > :22:59.doctor thought the lump had been there more about 18 months. My wife
:23:00. > :23:02.Betsy has had breast cancer. In many respects I was lucky and my
:23:03. > :23:07.children, my youngest was 16, but when I was so ill I remember
:23:08. > :23:12.thinking how would I have managed if my children had, if it had been ten
:23:13. > :23:16.years earlier and my children were little? I was written off. I was
:23:17. > :23:21.very, very ill as you remember. I couldn't look after myself. I
:23:22. > :23:25.couldn't do anything for myself. The sooner you can detect cancer the
:23:26. > :23:29.better. The sooner you can detect all diseases the better. But this
:23:30. > :23:38.re-McAble ability has implications for more than just the detection of
:23:39. > :23:42.cancer. Dogs cab trained to alert patients with conditions such as
:23:43. > :23:47.type one diabetes to a minute shift in Nair blood sugar levels which
:23:48. > :23:52.might, in extreme cases, signal the onset of a coma. The dogs are able
:23:53. > :23:56.to detect when a patient might be in danger and fetch any vital medical
:23:57. > :24:01.supplies. He has got it now. He's going round and round. I went to
:24:02. > :24:06.visit Steve and Molly. Steve was diagnosed with type one diabetes in
:24:07. > :24:10.2006. It is no exaggeration to say having Molly at his side has been
:24:11. > :24:17.life changing for Steve and his family. Halfs life like for both of
:24:18. > :24:21.you before Molly arrived? Where were the big problems, how difficult was
:24:22. > :24:24.all of this? Well, when Stephen was little, we would have him just
:24:25. > :24:28.running around and then falling over. We would be scooping him up
:24:29. > :24:34.and putting him on the sofa and trying to get things into him. I had
:24:35. > :24:38.gone in the night and he had scezures, we were testing all night,
:24:39. > :24:43.every night. So you were getting up through the night. Setting alarms.
:24:44. > :24:46.We did that until Molly came along and suddenly when we realised we
:24:47. > :24:51.could trust her, that's when we stopped and now I only get up when
:24:52. > :24:54.she alerts. She comes and sits at football, doesn't she? She alerts
:24:55. > :24:59.from the sidelines of the football pitch. I used to have to call
:25:00. > :25:03.Stephen off and keep testing him and sometimes he had gone so low he was
:25:04. > :25:08.tripping over the ball so he'd have to have glucose and sit out for 20
:25:09. > :25:11.minutes. Shoal know in an open football pitch and she will alert
:25:12. > :25:14.and you will know that she is alerting that your son, who is busy
:25:15. > :25:18.about to score a goal, has to come off the pitch to get himself sorted
:25:19. > :25:23.out? Yes. Is that right? That's remarkable. She has got permission
:25:24. > :25:28.from the club referees to be let loose on the pitch with her coat on.
:25:29. > :25:35.Molly is capable of detecting at any stage out in the fields, in the
:25:36. > :25:38.garden, on the playing pitch, if you're upstairs and she is is
:25:39. > :25:46.downstairs, she will get agitated. Yes. Clare is a beneficiary of her
:25:47. > :25:52.dog's ability to detect shifts in blood glucose levels that might
:25:53. > :25:54.indicate she is is in danger. In In the three-and-a-half years we have
:25:55. > :26:01.been together he has aall righted and saved my life over 3500 times.
:26:02. > :26:04.He does it all for a dog biscuit and often leaves me emotional after all
:26:05. > :26:09.this time because I know without him, I wouldn't be alive today. I
:26:10. > :26:14.actually work as a children's diabetes nurse. My job is to help
:26:15. > :26:19.care, support, and educate children and families that have got type one
:26:20. > :26:24.diabetes. So having Magic means I can carry on my job. Without him I
:26:25. > :26:28.would be testing my blood glow can yous level every 20 or 30 minutes to
:26:29. > :26:33.try and pre-empt what was going to happen. With Magic I don't have to
:26:34. > :26:36.do that which means I can carry on doing my job, but I'm being safe
:26:37. > :26:42.with patients and I'm not likely to collapse when I'm in the middle of a
:26:43. > :26:46.consultation with them, which is not only embarrassing for me, but it is
:26:47. > :26:49.giving the wrong message to patients that you can still live life to the
:26:50. > :26:56.full even though you've got diabetes. So this Magic telling me
:26:57. > :27:02.he wants me to do a blood glucose test. I will ask Magic to fetch my
:27:03. > :27:12.kit. Fetch kit. Good boy. And then I'll check my blood sugar to see
:27:13. > :27:18.what is going on. Good boy, Magic. And the blood glucose is 5.5 so his
:27:19. > :27:24.target is 4.7. So he's telling me that in the next 20, 30 minutes he
:27:25. > :27:29.thinks my blood glucose level will be too low. Magic sleeps by my bed
:27:30. > :27:34.so he is always close by me, but he can detect a change in my blood
:27:35. > :27:38.glucose level even when I'm upstairs and he's downstairs, but he sleeps
:27:39. > :27:44.by my bed and he will wake up overnight and tell me to test.
:27:45. > :27:49.Before I got Magic I would be up every hour, day and night, trying to
:27:50. > :27:52.check my blood glucose level and trying to pre-empt when the episodes
:27:53. > :27:58.would happen. That meant I was exhausted, many a time I would be
:27:59. > :28:03.too afraid to go to sleep in case I had an episode and wouldn't wake up
:28:04. > :28:08.from them. Other times I would be too exhausted I didn't care if I was
:28:09. > :28:13.going to die. I wanted to close my eyes and get sleep. What Magic
:28:14. > :28:17.allowed me to do is to go to bed and not be afraid that I'm never going
:28:18. > :28:22.to wake up. I'm going to go to bed and my husband doesn't have to worry
:28:23. > :28:26.that when he wakes up, I won't be dead next to him. Simple things like
:28:27. > :28:30.that, it is very difficult to put into words, but that's what having
:28:31. > :28:34.Magic means is I can have an ordinary life and do ordinary things
:28:35. > :28:37.and I've got an amazing companion that's going to follow me all the
:28:38. > :28:41.way through it. I have been so impressed with the progress made in
:28:42. > :28:45.in field that I wanted to find out why its potential hasn't been
:28:46. > :28:48.properly recognised and why it isn't receiving the funding it deserves. I
:28:49. > :28:53.went to see the Health Secretary for England, Jeremy Hunt. I started by
:28:54. > :28:59.asking why it was that the Health Service hasn't so far got behind
:29:00. > :29:03.this incredibly promising work? I think probably ideas like this
:29:04. > :29:07.sometimes don't get looked at as quickly as they should because they
:29:08. > :29:10.get put in the quackery box when actually what we're doing now, what
:29:11. > :29:16.you're doing is saying well, let's look at the science. Let's actually
:29:17. > :29:19.see whether these new ways of doing things are scientifically valid and
:29:20. > :29:24.sometimes when you do that, you get a surprise. From 2004, this work has
:29:25. > :29:29.been peer reviewed and been available and published and actually
:29:30. > :29:31.a lot of doctors involved in cancer treatment, have been absolutely
:29:32. > :29:34.certain there is something rather unique and special about what has
:29:35. > :29:38.been going on. It has been the devil's own business to get medical
:29:39. > :29:44.professionals on a wider scale to say let's have a look at this. Do
:29:45. > :29:48.you think this says something about the resistance to investment and
:29:49. > :29:53.invowation at times that comes from the medical profession within the
:29:54. > :29:56.NHS? I wouldn't characterise the NHS as not being innovative, but
:29:57. > :30:01.sometimes nonetheless, when you have something that's so unorthodox as
:30:02. > :30:06.this, I mean, I can imagine that lots of doctors heart would miss a
:30:07. > :30:09.beat at the thought of using a dog to help detect cancer, but as
:30:10. > :30:15.doctors and scientists, they need to look at the evidence. So instead of
:30:16. > :30:21.it being dogs, I was able to say to you or to anyone from the medical
:30:22. > :30:26.profession, what we have here is a laboratory that detects cancer
:30:27. > :30:29.earlier and more accurately than any of the existing medical tests, what
:30:30. > :30:35.do you think would be the natural reaction to that without the word
:30:36. > :30:39.dogs in it? Well, of course, it's the dogs bit that, I think, as I
:30:40. > :30:45.say, probably causes one or two people's heart rates to miss a beat
:30:46. > :30:50.or two. But I will look at the results of this research when it
:30:51. > :30:55.comes through. One of our jobs as MPs is sometimes to question
:30:56. > :31:00.orthodoxes and look at different ways of doing things that possibly
:31:01. > :31:04.the establishment has swept under the carpet or not wanted to look at.
:31:05. > :31:08.So if this research is good then I want to know about it and I will
:31:09. > :31:12.certainly look at it carefully. The work of our pioneering researchers
:31:13. > :31:19.in this field doesn't just have the potential to save lives, but also to
:31:20. > :31:24.save our NHS many millions of pounds if it's properly funded. We need to
:31:25. > :31:28.recognise that we can still reimagine our century's old
:31:29. > :31:31.relationship with dogs and find new ways to make use of their absolutely
:31:32. > :31:53.extraordinary abilities. You have been telling us what you
:31:54. > :32:02.think. This view tweets, with no hint of irony, Victoria has Iain
:32:03. > :32:07.Duncan Smith reporting on dogs detecting cancer. This view says, my
:32:08. > :32:12.dog started to display unusual behaviour. Wouldn't stay in the same
:32:13. > :32:16.room as me and became anxious. When I saw a specialist I had a tumour on
:32:17. > :32:20.one of my kidneys which had been missed by my GP.
:32:21. > :32:28.After ten o'clock Iain Duncan Smith will be here and we will be meeting
:32:29. > :32:34.one of the life-saving dogs. Keep your comments coming in.
:32:35. > :32:36.Still to come, police are launching an unprecedented appeal
:32:37. > :32:39.at the Supreme Court against a ruling that it failed
:32:40. > :32:42.victims of one of the UK's most dangerous rapists.
:32:43. > :32:50.And the singer Adele has found a novel way of getting
:32:51. > :32:58.to the stage in a box designed for transporting musical equipment.
:32:59. > :33:00.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.
:33:01. > :33:03.MPs are due to debate changes to the Brexit bill
:33:04. > :33:07.It comes after the House of Lords voted in favour of amendments
:33:08. > :33:09.which would guarantee the rights of EU citizens living
:33:10. > :33:12.in the UK, and would give parliament a "meaningful" say
:33:13. > :33:17.If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start
:33:18. > :33:30.the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.
:33:31. > :33:34.A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,
:33:35. > :33:37.over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.
:33:38. > :33:40.David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared
:33:41. > :33:43.for his life during a fight with the police officer,
:33:44. > :33:45.who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.
:33:46. > :33:48.his partner Sarah Connor has been sentenced to four years as an
:33:49. > :33:57.accessory to the crime. Rail staff from three firms
:33:58. > :34:00.across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over
:34:01. > :34:02.the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day
:34:03. > :34:04.in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated
:34:05. > :34:06.trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for
:34:07. > :34:10.Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's
:34:11. > :34:12.about modernising services Police are launching
:34:13. > :34:25.an unprecedented appeal at the Supreme Court
:34:26. > :34:27.against a ruling it failed the victims of one of the UK's
:34:28. > :34:29.most dangerous rapists. Judges said Scotland Yard had
:34:30. > :34:32.breached the human rights of two women because officers didn't
:34:33. > :34:34.properly investigate John Worboys who was jailed for life in 2009
:34:35. > :34:36.after committing more The outcome of the case
:34:37. > :34:39.could have profound legal Aid agencies are warning that time
:34:40. > :34:44.is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine
:34:45. > :34:46.in four African countries. There's growing concern
:34:47. > :34:47.about four countries in particular, Nigeria,
:34:48. > :34:49.South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst
:34:50. > :34:52.humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent
:34:53. > :34:58.help many will simply starve. That's a summary of
:34:59. > :35:00.the latest BBC News. Here's some sport now
:35:01. > :35:11.with the other Hugh! The FA Cup fairy tales are over as
:35:12. > :35:30.Spurs ensure the semifinalists will come from the Premier League.
:35:31. > :35:33.Celtic need only six more points to win the Scottish Premiership again
:35:34. > :35:36.but they were denied a 23rd consecutive league win by Rangers -
:35:37. > :35:40.a late Clint Hill equaliser gave them a 1-1 draw.
:35:41. > :35:45.Derby County have sacked Steve McClaren for a second time...
:35:46. > :35:54.Just five months after he rejoined the club.
:35:55. > :35:57.Derby are tenth in the Championship - they've won only once
:35:58. > :36:00.There are no British players left in the singles
:36:01. > :36:02.draw at the Indian Wells tennis in California.
:36:03. > :36:05.Women's number one, Johanna Konta, was knocked out in the third
:36:06. > :36:07.round by Caroline Garcia of France, and Dan Evans and Kyle
:36:08. > :36:16.John Worboys is one of Britain's most dangeorus rapists.
:36:17. > :36:19.He's serving a life sentence for carrying out more than 100
:36:20. > :36:21.rapes and sexual assaults while he was a black
:36:22. > :36:24.Over a period of six years between 2002 and 2008,
:36:25. > :36:27.he'd drug his victims, female passengers in his taxi,
:36:28. > :36:35.by pretending he'd won on the lottery, persuading them
:36:36. > :36:38.to "celebrate" with a glass of doped champagne.
:36:39. > :36:39.The Metropolitan Police had several opportunities
:36:40. > :36:41.to apprehend and stop him, and didn't.
:36:42. > :36:43.On one occasion Worboys was so confident of getting
:36:44. > :36:46.away with his crimes, that he actually drove his victim
:36:47. > :36:48.to a police station and dropped her off there,
:36:49. > :36:52.officers took neither his name nor his cab registration details.
:36:53. > :36:55.Here's how the story was reported at the time.
:36:56. > :36:59.In his familiar and licensed black cab, they should have been safe,
:37:00. > :37:02.but John Warboys is convicted of drugging, sexually molesting
:37:03. > :37:05.or raping dozens, possibly even hundreds, of women
:37:06. > :37:11.While those offences are being investigated by the police,
:37:12. > :37:14.and there are serious questions being asked about their inquiry
:37:15. > :37:17.and whether he could have been caught sooner, tonight he stands
:37:18. > :37:24.convicted of 19 counts dating back to October 2006.
:37:25. > :37:27.Sources say in the 13 years he drove this black cab,
:37:28. > :37:30.John Warboys may have attacked more than 200 women.
:37:31. > :37:34.While he now faces a lengthy prison sentence, the IPCC wants to know
:37:35. > :37:37.why, having arrested him once, the police allowed him and his taxi
:37:38. > :37:45.Their failings led two women to sue the police
:37:46. > :37:48.for breaching their human rights, and judges agreed.
:37:49. > :37:50.Today the Met Police are trying to challenge that ruling
:37:51. > :37:53.in the highest court in the land, the Supreme Court.
:37:54. > :37:55.Today's appeal could have profound implications for how police
:37:56. > :37:59.investigate serious sexual offences and means they could be sued
:38:00. > :38:02.for the most serious of crimes that amount to inhuman or degrading
:38:03. > :38:06.treatment if they fail to conduct an effective investigation.
:38:07. > :38:11.The case is so important to the law around police
:38:12. > :38:14.negligence that Theresa May, when she was still Home
:38:15. > :38:31.Secretary, intervened to support Scotland Yard.
:38:32. > :38:36.Let's speak to her knee, only using her first name. We are not showing
:38:37. > :38:38.her face to protect her identity. she was raped by two strangers two
:38:39. > :38:41.years ago when she 18. She thinks police should be held
:38:42. > :38:44.accountable if they fail Hamish Brown, a former
:38:45. > :38:47.Met Dectective inspector, who was with the Met at the time
:38:48. > :38:50.Worboys committed his early crimes. Harriet Wistrich , the solicitor
:38:51. > :39:01.for the two women who sued the Met. Harriet, your clients are arguing,
:39:02. > :39:04.had the police investigated properly, John Worboys would have
:39:05. > :39:08.been caught earlier and they would not have been raped, is that right?
:39:09. > :39:13.Those are the facts of the case. There were a number of
:39:14. > :39:16.opportunities, about ten women came forward at different times before he
:39:17. > :39:25.was eventually arrested and prosecuted. And had they conducted
:39:26. > :39:28.an effective investigation, there were a whole series of failings at
:39:29. > :39:36.every stage along the route, but the judge found at the High Court. Then
:39:37. > :39:40.he wouldn't have gone on to rape so many women. The police have
:39:41. > :39:43.acknowledged their errors and apologised and they have put in
:39:44. > :39:51.place things to improve the way they deal with this. You don't believe
:39:52. > :39:58.that? The problem is, there were some good policies in place at the
:39:59. > :40:02.time. There was a policy about how to prosecute, how to investigate
:40:03. > :40:09.drug assisted rape. That policy was not followed by the officers on the
:40:10. > :40:13.ground. There isn't an answer to save the police constantly say, we
:40:14. > :40:18.have changed, we have put in place better procedures. This wouldn't
:40:19. > :40:24.happen again. But they said that at the time and it did happen. The
:40:25. > :40:27.problem is, the officers on the ground were not necessarily
:40:28. > :40:33.enforcing these policies and following them properly. In fact, at
:40:34. > :40:36.the trial, an inspector said in evidence, when asked if the policies
:40:37. > :40:46.were there and they didn't follow it, he said, I don't know, and that
:40:47. > :40:50.came under criticism. You have to put those policies in place and you
:40:51. > :40:55.have to have officers on the ground who are trained and realise it is
:40:56. > :41:00.important to follow them. It didn't happen in this case. The Met want to
:41:01. > :41:05.make it clear, by defending this action, they are not doubting the
:41:06. > :41:10.voracity of the claimants' accounts. What they yell saying it is the
:41:11. > :41:18.boundaries of police responsibility and liability. If the Court upholds
:41:19. > :41:23.the ruling, the police could be sued if they are deemed to have failed to
:41:24. > :41:29.conduct a proper investigation. Why would that be a good thing? They
:41:30. > :41:35.should be held to an account. Where they fell, they should be held to
:41:36. > :41:43.account. This is a mechanism for victims to hold the state body to
:41:44. > :41:47.account. We can hold all other state organisations, doctors, social
:41:48. > :41:50.services and we hold all sorts of people to account through common law
:41:51. > :41:55.as long as through the human rights frameworks. Why are the police
:41:56. > :42:01.accepted and if they continue to fail even where the framework and
:42:02. > :42:05.the policies are in place, and this is a mechanism which enables another
:42:06. > :42:10.mechanism to say, you cannot carry on doing this and put in place, not
:42:11. > :42:15.just policies, but measures to make those policies work. Honey, thanks
:42:16. > :42:20.for talking to others, you were raped two years ago by strangers. In
:42:21. > :42:24.your case, the police were incredibly supportive and two men
:42:25. > :42:32.were convicted last year. But you were nervous about reporting it
:42:33. > :42:36.initially? I don't know why, we cannot hear you. Maybe we will
:42:37. > :42:50.reconnect the line. In the meantime, let's bring in Hamish Brown, former
:42:51. > :42:55.Met policeman and Chris. Some of the 's mistakes made, one believable.
:42:56. > :42:59.John Worboys dotting of one of his victims at a police station and
:43:00. > :43:05.offers is not taking his name or cab registration details. Had they done
:43:06. > :43:08.that, they might have caught him earlier? Regrettably, everything is
:43:09. > :43:14.true and I go along with everything Harriet said. But I think the police
:43:15. > :43:18.are concerned about the floodgates, at one stage I going to stop whether
:43:19. > :43:23.police have made a mistake. Let's take the case of a burglary. It is
:43:24. > :43:28.not investigated properly for whatever reason and that burglar
:43:29. > :43:33.goes on to commit another hundred crimes. It affects people taking
:43:34. > :43:40.their personal things, or that people going to come forward and sue
:43:41. > :43:46.the police? Or, investigate the case properly? Yes, in times of cuts, the
:43:47. > :43:50.Metropolitan Police have just lost 700 detectives because of one reason
:43:51. > :43:54.or another. Maybe it is not unattractive job any more. Will this
:43:55. > :43:58.work and will the police go out of business? Why should the police be
:43:59. > :44:03.in a different position, why should there be an exception when NHS
:44:04. > :44:08.surgeons can be sued, teachers can be sued. I would agree in the most
:44:09. > :44:13.serious of cases, they should be. I am not against that. Where the
:44:14. > :44:17.caution is is opening the flood gates and where should the line be
:44:18. > :44:26.drawn. Harriet is wanting to come back in. Can I make a point. Can you
:44:27. > :44:31.hear me OK? Just to be clear, burglary would not come within this
:44:32. > :44:37.sort of case. It has to be a breach of article three, which is inhumane
:44:38. > :44:41.and degrading treatment. It is not every crime the police investigate,
:44:42. > :44:46.it affects the most serious crimes as Hamish said. It isn't any
:44:47. > :44:51.failure, it has to be serious failures in the best a geisha in. To
:44:52. > :44:55.suggest it will open the floodgates and every time a police officer
:44:56. > :45:01.investigate something and they mess up, they will be sued, is not
:45:02. > :45:06.correct. It is designed only in relation to those very serious cases
:45:07. > :45:11.and you are talking about really serious crimes, you know, not short
:45:12. > :45:18.of having huge impacts on victims, that we are having this safeguard
:45:19. > :45:22.in. It is not just one minor mistake, it has to be a serious
:45:23. > :45:24.failure. Thank you for clarifying that. We will try and talk to honey
:45:25. > :45:35.again, I hope we can hear you. Tell us about your apprehension
:45:36. > :45:38.before you reported to the police? I was just really nervous that I
:45:39. > :45:42.wouldn't be taken seriously and that people would sort of, they would be
:45:43. > :45:46.suspicious and wouldn't believe me. And actually, the police treated you
:45:47. > :45:50.incredibly well and were incredibly supportive and did their job
:45:51. > :45:54.properly? They were just professional the whole way through,
:45:55. > :46:00.you know, it was just amazing. So when people say, "I'm not sure if
:46:01. > :46:04.the police are going to believe me." They didn't express an opinion in
:46:05. > :46:09.your case, they just investigated? They were 100% behind me. They never
:46:10. > :46:12.said you're right or you're wrong, but they investigated it as they
:46:13. > :46:15.should with any crime. What do you think of this legal case that could
:46:16. > :46:20.lead to the police being sued if they fail to investigate a serious
:46:21. > :46:26.crime properly? If there are serious failings and if the crime involved
:46:27. > :46:30.degrading treatment? I do think that the police being sued would be
:46:31. > :46:35.important because with this type of crime it's so important that women
:46:36. > :46:41.are supported and anyone supported when they report abuse or sexual
:46:42. > :46:45.violence. If the police are failing to not take people seriously and
:46:46. > :46:49.also be professional in their job then yeah, they should be taken to
:46:50. > :46:54.court and they should be sued for it. Thank you very much. Rachel,
:46:55. > :46:58.Chris, why are you supporting the two women who are taking the case?
:46:59. > :47:01.We've intervened because it is really important that women have the
:47:02. > :47:06.ability to challenge the police, to hold them to account. Very few rapes
:47:07. > :47:09.get reported, about 15% we think of rapes get reported to the police and
:47:10. > :47:12.in part that's because women are concerned that they won't be
:47:13. > :47:15.believed or they won't be taken seriously and when that happens, we
:47:16. > :47:19.really need to be able to challenge the police who are not following
:47:20. > :47:26.their policies and not following their procedures properly. So it is
:47:27. > :47:31.important to us. Do you accept that since the John Warboys case police
:47:32. > :47:35.have made progress? There has been progress, but the progress is patchy
:47:36. > :47:39.and we still hear from women who still get disbelieved and whose
:47:40. > :47:44.cases are not taken certificate lussy and evidence not being
:47:45. > :47:48.followed up. Human Rights see this crime as discrimination against
:47:49. > :47:51.women. It is extremely serious sexual violence as a crime. It's
:47:52. > :47:56.really important that the Human Rights that we've got work in
:47:57. > :47:59.practise so they are not just on paper, it is not enough to have that
:48:00. > :48:03.human right, you have to be able to have it when the State does
:48:04. > :48:06.something wrong and gets it so catastrophically wrong that more
:48:07. > :48:10.women are raped you have to be able to hold them to account for that.
:48:11. > :48:16.Honey, are you still with us? No, I think she has gone. I'm going
:48:17. > :48:20.to ask Harriet about the comments from the female judge last week that
:48:21. > :48:26.drunk women are putting themselves at greater risk of rape. Saying
:48:27. > :48:30.women were entitled to drink themselves into the ground, but
:48:31. > :48:35.their behaviour could put them in danger. Is she right? I think the
:48:36. > :48:40.reason this has caused a lot of controversy is because, you know,
:48:41. > :48:47.it's a sense of women being blamed again for getting raped and the
:48:48. > :48:51.concern is that men and in fact, it is interesting because Warboys
:48:52. > :48:55.deliberately targeted women coming out of nightclubs late at night
:48:56. > :49:01.often who would have had a few drinks. The issue is about
:49:02. > :49:09.identifying those men who target women who are vulnerable and I think
:49:10. > :49:17.it's not necessarily very helpful to focus in that way, but it's true and
:49:18. > :49:20.I think we need to look at the ways in which vulnerability is targeted.
:49:21. > :49:25.It is drink. It maybe people who have mental illness or learning
:49:26. > :49:29.disability or who are very young. There are all different sorts of
:49:30. > :49:34.ways in which women are targeted and the challenge is really to try and
:49:35. > :49:39.challenge those men who are targeting the women rather than to
:49:40. > :49:44.blame women for their behaviour. A final thought from Hamish. I'm sure
:49:45. > :49:47.the judge meant very well and I'm sor the interpretation that's been
:49:48. > :49:51.put on it, but I hear what Harriet says as well. Look, there is a lot
:49:52. > :49:55.of good work in the Metropolitan Police and police forces around the
:49:56. > :50:00.country on rape and serious sexual offences, progress has been made
:50:01. > :50:05.from the 60s, 70s and 80s when it all went wrong of the mistakes will
:50:06. > :50:08.be made. The police will be punished, but there is a shortage of
:50:09. > :50:12.police officers. It's going to be difficult to go forward, but I hope
:50:13. > :50:17.the police will learn from this and we all move on. Thank you.
:50:18. > :50:22.Thank you. We will report back what happens in the Supreme Court.
:50:23. > :50:27.Thank you for your comments on the film that Iain Duncan Smith made
:50:28. > :50:33.which we showed earlier about cancer detecting dogs. Specially trained
:50:34. > :50:38.dogs. This e-mail from John, "Remarkable film that should be sent
:50:39. > :50:44.to all medical practises." Harry says, "Fantastic. A new way of
:50:45. > :50:47.looking at things." LJ, "A great story on what could be a
:50:48. > :50:55.breakthrough detected by man's best friend." This from Duncan, "IDS
:50:56. > :51:00.trying to convince people he has a compassionate bone in his body. He
:51:01. > :51:05.hasn't folks." After 10am, we will talk this this lady and her dog. She
:51:06. > :51:12.has type one diabetes and her dog helps her out when her blood sugar
:51:13. > :51:17.levels change. That's Caroline and Simba, so we'll hear her experience
:51:18. > :51:31.after 10am. Also, we'll bring you the latest on Brexit.
:51:32. > :51:33.As parliament considers the final stage of the law
:51:34. > :51:36.that will allow the UK to begin divorce proceedings
:51:37. > :51:39.The Queen is launching the Commonwealth Games Baton relay
:51:40. > :51:42.Over 388 days the baton will visit all 71 Commonwealth
:51:43. > :51:44.countries, before arriving at the Australian Gold Coast
:51:45. > :51:47.Our correspondent Katherine Downs is at Buckingham Palace.
:51:48. > :51:52.Hello Victoria. A lot of numbers to remember in this one. All kinds of
:51:53. > :51:58.stats. This is the longest Commonwealth Games baton in history.
:51:59. > :52:02.388 days, 230,000 miles it will travel around the world before it
:52:03. > :52:07.ends up on the gold coast in Australia for the Commonwealth Games
:52:08. > :52:12.which start in April. So just over a year to go in Australia next year. I
:52:13. > :52:15.don't know if you can hear behind me, they're testing the public
:52:16. > :52:18.announcement system. The crowds are beginning to gather in front of
:52:19. > :52:21.Buckingham Palace where the ceremony will start later on this morning. It
:52:22. > :52:24.is the beginning really of the countdown to the Commonwealth Games
:52:25. > :52:27.and what will happen is that the Queen will come out on to that
:52:28. > :52:32.platform behind me here. She will put a message of hope and friendship
:52:33. > :52:35.into the Commonwealth Games baton that will invite athletes from
:52:36. > :52:38.around the Commonwealth to come together in peaceful and friendly
:52:39. > :52:45.competition in Australia next year and what she'll do, she will hand
:52:46. > :52:54.the baton to the first baton runner who is Anna Mears, the most
:52:55. > :52:58.decorated female cyclist in history, five times Commonwealth Games Gold
:52:59. > :53:00.Medallist. She has to run 20 meters across the fore court of Buckingham
:53:01. > :53:06.Palace to the big gate in the centre and she will hand the baton then to
:53:07. > :53:15.her long time rival Victoria Pendleton. Anna Mears pipped
:53:16. > :53:21.Victoria Pendleton. Now they've retired the rivalry is water under
:53:22. > :53:34.the bridge! Victoria Pendleton will run around the Queen Victoria
:53:35. > :53:39.Memorial and send the baton off. The baton has arrived with the designers
:53:40. > :53:48.from Design Works. Here is the baton. This is it. I have never seen
:53:49. > :53:51.a baton that sums up Australia. Talk us through the design. It was to
:53:52. > :53:55.represent the gold coast very well. There is lots of things of the shape
:53:56. > :53:58.itself is all about boundless energy of the people, place, and spirit of
:53:59. > :54:04.the coast. So that's what the loop is all about. Then on the side, we
:54:05. > :54:07.split it up into three different sectors, that represents, the past,
:54:08. > :54:14.the present and the future. The back of the baton is made from a wood, it
:54:15. > :54:19.is a tree that's indigenous to the gold coast. It is an important story
:54:20. > :54:23.from the indigenous people of the gold coast. They would take seeds
:54:24. > :54:30.and plant them along the paths that they walked to provide suss ten nans
:54:31. > :54:35.for the future. The guest of honour is arriving behind us. I don't know
:54:36. > :54:41.if you can see that. That's the Queen and her outriders arriving for
:54:42. > :54:45.the Olympic, sorry Commonwealth baton ceremony, going around the
:54:46. > :54:48.Queen Victoria Memorial and she will be heading into Buckingham Palace
:54:49. > :54:59.where she will be meeting elders from the gold cos and coast. That
:55:00. > :55:03.represents the past. We have a stringer on the side which is the
:55:04. > :55:06.stainless part. The stringer has engaved all the nations that will
:55:07. > :55:10.see the baton as it goes through its journey. They are in the order of
:55:11. > :55:15.the relay. The front here is reclaimed plastic. So we collected
:55:16. > :55:19.plastic from the ocean, beaches and waterways of the gold coast. It is
:55:20. > :55:24.quite clean. We had a lot of people helping us. Community groups and the
:55:25. > :55:30.gold coast City Council. We reclaimed that and reconstituted it
:55:31. > :55:34.into the leading edge. Where does this message go? I thought she was
:55:35. > :55:43.putting it in the baton, but it looks hollow? There is this little
:55:44. > :55:46.part. A capsule will get dropped in. And then the message is inside the
:55:47. > :55:56.capsule. It is on some really special paper. The paper is made
:55:57. > :56:01.using a special paper that has really strong properties using the
:56:02. > :56:05.nano particles. How many batons are there? Is this just the only baton
:56:06. > :56:09.that will be going around the Commonwealth or are there loads in
:56:10. > :56:16.case one gets lost or dropped in the sea? We have to have a back-up. But
:56:17. > :56:19.there is one baton with the message and it will go around the
:56:20. > :56:23.Commonwealth and of course, there is back-up. How important do you think
:56:24. > :56:27.it is that there is a baton like this that goes around the
:56:28. > :56:32.Commonwealth and kind of unites people and invites the athletes to
:56:33. > :56:37.take part in the Games? When you have the pictures of past baton
:56:38. > :56:42.relays, the Glasgow one and the kids in South Africa or the Caribbean,
:56:43. > :56:46.just the excitement that it brings. We're trying to include, ignite and
:56:47. > :56:49.inspire and I think that's what this really does. Well, thank you for
:56:50. > :56:55.bringing it along to show us this morning. It is a beautiful piece of
:56:56. > :56:58.artwork and the first time we have been up close to a Commonwealth
:56:59. > :57:03.Games baton. So that's it. That's the baton that will be taking its
:57:04. > :57:07.centre stage really at the ceremony this morning before heading off on
:57:08. > :57:11.that enormous 388 day journey to the gold coast. The Commonwealth Games
:57:12. > :57:16.next year kicks off on 4th April and you will be able to watch that baton
:57:17. > :57:17.set-up on its baton journey on the BBC News Channel this morning. Thank
:57:18. > :57:32.you. Thank you for your e-mails about
:57:33. > :57:34.dogs. Sean on Facebook, "Fantastic and interesting film about
:57:35. > :57:38.biomarking. As the scientist says there is no funding from the UK
:57:39. > :57:45.Government in this area." We will talk more about this after 10. We
:57:46. > :57:48.will talk to Cancer Research UK who are sceptical. The latest news and
:57:49. > :57:55.sport in a moment. Before that, the weather. Look at you! What a bright,
:57:56. > :58:02.shining deliciousness you are on this Monday morning!
:58:03. > :58:09.We're in the mood for spring. There is some cloud around. But we have
:58:10. > :58:15.seen some amazing sunrises this morning. We have got BBC Weather
:58:16. > :58:18.Watcher pictures to show you what it was like. If we look at what's
:58:19. > :58:26.happening around the country. First of all, we have got this beautiful
:58:27. > :58:29.one from Saltburn and another one, another beautiful sunrise from
:58:30. > :58:32.Suffolk. And then as we travel around the country, you can see in
:58:33. > :58:38.Cardiff, a little bit more in the way of frost. It was a nippy start
:58:39. > :58:42.for you. But beautiful blue skies in Hampshire. Again, lovely, lovely
:58:43. > :58:45.weather out there if you like it sunny. You can see on the satellite
:58:46. > :58:51.picture where we have the clear skies, this area here is actually a
:58:52. > :58:54.weather front. The weather front moved across Northern Ireland and
:58:55. > :58:57.Scotland last night and it raised temperatures overnight, but it is
:58:58. > :59:01.still producing a fair bit of cloud and the odd spot of rain, nothing
:59:02. > :59:05.too much. As it sink southwards and bumps into the high pressure, it
:59:06. > :59:08.will be a fairly weak affair. So as we go through the morning, a lot of
:59:09. > :59:12.sunshine in the south. Some sunshine in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
:59:13. > :59:15.Behind this weather front. The weather front continues to drift
:59:16. > :59:17.across the rest of Northern England and in through Wales and the
:59:18. > :59:22.south-west. Quite murky conditions around the coast with sea fog as
:59:23. > :59:26.well in the south-west. But by then Northern Ireland will be busking in
:59:27. > :59:29.sunshine. Highs of 13 Celsius in Belfast. Across much of Scotland
:59:30. > :59:32.too, a lot of sunshine, but rain starting to come in across the
:59:33. > :59:36.north-west, breezy across the north of Scotland as well. As we move down
:59:37. > :59:39.towards the north of England, here under the influence of the weather
:59:40. > :59:44.front it will be fairly cloudy, but the very far north of Northern
:59:45. > :59:48.England improving and that cloud prevails towards the Midlands and
:59:49. > :59:52.the Wash, but for East Anglia, Essex and Kent and the Isle of Wight and
:59:53. > :59:56.Dorset, we are looking at some blue skies into the afternoon. For
:59:57. > :00:00.south-west England though, under that weather front, cloudier. Again,
:00:01. > :00:03.there is murkiness around the coast and for parts of Wales, again cloudy
:00:04. > :00:08.this afternoon under that weather front. It gets down to the
:00:09. > :00:10.south-east with all its cloud. Some brighter breaks behind, but then
:00:11. > :00:14.another weather front comes in across Northern Ireland and Scotland
:00:15. > :00:19.with rain and strengthening winds. The rain turning more showery
:00:20. > :00:22.through the course of the night. Tomorrow we start off with showers
:00:23. > :00:26.across the north of Scotland. Some of those will be wintry and
:00:27. > :00:32.accompanied by gusts of wind 60mph to 70mph. As we come south, murky
:00:33. > :00:35.around Cardigan Bay and Pembrokeshire and around the Bristol
:00:36. > :00:40.Channel area. Inland if you're in the sunshine, temperatures 12 to 15
:00:41. > :00:43.Celsius. But somewhere tomorrow in the south-eastern quarter of the UK
:00:44. > :00:47.we could hit 17 Celsius or 18 Celsius in the south-east. The
:00:48. > :00:52.average at this time in March is 11 Celsius.
:00:53. > :00:57.Hello, it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
:00:58. > :01:00.After the news we'll have more on our top story -
:01:01. > :01:05.Former Minister Iain Duncan Smith will be here to tell us what these
:01:06. > :01:08.Imagine one teaspoonful of sugar dissolved, not just in one Olympic
:01:09. > :01:11.sized swimming pool, but in two Olympic sized swimming
:01:12. > :01:23.The dogs can also help people with diabetes tell
:01:24. > :01:26.when their blood sugar is low, and having one can be a life
:01:27. > :01:31.I had gone in in the night and he had
:01:32. > :01:34.so we were testing every hour-and-a-half every
:01:35. > :01:37.So you were getting up through the night?
:01:38. > :01:45.We'll bring you the latest on Brexit, later today the bill to
:01:46. > :01:47.allow divorce proceedings to begin is expected to be
:01:48. > :01:59.At Westminster, Tory MPs and peers are ready to back down paving the
:02:00. > :02:01.way for Theresa May to trigger our departure from the EU.
:02:02. > :02:04.And if you were a superstar singer, how would you get
:02:05. > :02:07.Adele has developed an interesting technique,
:02:08. > :02:15.Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
:02:16. > :02:19.The legislation paving the way for Theresa May to start formal
:02:20. > :02:21.Brexit negotiations faces its final test in parliament today.
:02:22. > :02:25.Ministers believe MPs will reject the two changes made
:02:26. > :02:30.to the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords , one guaranteeing
:02:31. > :02:32.to the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords, one guaranteeing
:02:33. > :02:35.the rights of EU nationals living in Britain and another calling
:02:36. > :02:38.for parliament to have a "meaningful" vote on the final deal.
:02:39. > :02:41.If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start
:02:42. > :02:44.the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.
:02:45. > :02:46.A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,
:02:47. > :02:49.over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.
:02:50. > :02:52.David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared
:02:53. > :02:55.for his life during a fight with the police officer,
:02:56. > :02:57.who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.
:02:58. > :03:00.His partner Sara Connor has been sentenced to four years
:03:01. > :03:05.Energy supplier SSE says it will increase standard domestic
:03:06. > :03:07.electricity prices from the end of next month.
:03:08. > :03:10.It would result in an average 6.9% rise for a typical
:03:11. > :03:15.The company said it would keep gas prices at their current level
:03:16. > :03:22.but electricity prices would rise by an average 14.9%.
:03:23. > :03:24.Police are launching an appeal at the Supreme Court
:03:25. > :03:27.against a ruling that it failed the victims of one of the UK's
:03:28. > :03:31.Judges said Scotland Yard had breached the human rights of two
:03:32. > :03:35.women because officers didn't properly investigate John Worboys
:03:36. > :03:38.who was jailed for life in 2009 after committing more than 100 rapes
:03:39. > :03:43.The outcome of the case could have profound legal
:03:44. > :03:48.Hamish Brown is a former Detective inspector,
:03:49. > :03:51.who was with the Met at the time Worboys committed his early crimes,
:03:52. > :04:05.The police are now worried about opening the floodgates at a time
:04:06. > :04:15.when forces are facing cuts. At what stage will you stop when it
:04:16. > :04:23.is a mistake? What about burglary? What if the case wasn't investigated
:04:24. > :04:27.properly and the burglar goes on to commit another 100 crimes. Is it
:04:28. > :04:33.that kind of crime where victims will come forward and sue the
:04:34. > :04:40.police? Or investigate the case properly. Yes, at a time when the
:04:41. > :04:42.police have just had 700 job cuts, maybe it isn't an attractive job any
:04:43. > :04:44.more. Rail staff from three firms
:04:45. > :04:46.across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over
:04:47. > :04:48.the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day
:04:49. > :04:51.in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated
:04:52. > :04:52.trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for
:04:53. > :04:56.Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's
:04:57. > :04:58.about modernising services Aid agencies are warning that time
:04:59. > :05:03.is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing
:05:04. > :05:05.famine in Africa. There's growing concern
:05:06. > :05:09.about four countries in particular: Nigeria,
:05:10. > :05:11.South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst
:05:12. > :05:14.humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent
:05:15. > :05:21.help many will simply starve. That's a summary of the latest BBC
:05:22. > :05:35.News, more at 10.30. Samantha has message on Facebook. I
:05:36. > :05:41.have a medical detection dog called Charlie who detects and Norton make
:05:42. > :05:45.condition which causes me to black out and hurt myself. Charlie has
:05:46. > :05:51.transformed my life, I am safe and no longer scared to leave my home.
:05:52. > :05:59.Since having Charlie, the charity have managed two more to people with
:06:00. > :06:03.the same condition who continued to alert. Charlie walk me down the
:06:04. > :06:06.aisle at my wedding. Without Charlie I may have ended up in hospital on
:06:07. > :06:12.my wedding day. Thanks for letting us know about that, Samantha. We
:06:13. > :06:16.will talk more about dogs able to wander owners in changes in their
:06:17. > :06:18.medical condition and dogs who can detect cancer as well.
:06:19. > :06:20.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning,
:06:21. > :06:24.use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged
:06:25. > :06:30.Spurs ensured the FA Cup semi finals will be an all Premier League affair
:06:31. > :06:32.after beating League one Millwall 6-0 in the last
:06:33. > :06:35.South Korean Son-Hueng Min scored a hat-trick after top scorer
:06:36. > :06:38.Harry Kane was forced off with what looked like
:06:39. > :06:48.They joined Manchester City and Arsenal in the last four.
:06:49. > :06:55.We are really pleased, very happy. And now we need to prepare this week
:06:56. > :06:57.for the Premier League game against Southampton. Please, very happy. It
:06:58. > :07:00.was fantastic. Meanwhile the Football Association
:07:01. > :07:01.is to investigate allegations Millwall supporters directed
:07:02. > :07:04.what appeared to be racist chants at Son Heung-min during the match
:07:05. > :07:06.at White Hart Lane. They'll wait for the
:07:07. > :07:08.referee's match report. And also ask for the observations
:07:09. > :07:11.of both clubs and the police before Millwall are also under
:07:12. > :07:14.investigation for the behaviour of some of their fans
:07:15. > :07:18.in the previous round. So the last of the quarter finals,
:07:19. > :07:21.Chelsea against Manchester United, is live on BBC One,
:07:22. > :07:25.coverage starts at 7.30. There's also commentary on radio
:07:26. > :07:27.Five Live and coverage In the Premier League, Jurgen Klopp
:07:28. > :07:35.says he saw his Liverpool team win And was pretty
:07:36. > :07:39.relieved about it too. They came from behind
:07:40. > :07:41.to beat Burnley 2-1, Liverpool are fourth in the table
:07:42. > :07:47.just a point now behind Spurs, Managing Derby County seems to be
:07:48. > :07:55.something of a tricky challenge, Steve McClaren has been sacked
:07:56. > :08:00.for a second time, only five months Derby are tenth in the Championship
:08:01. > :08:05.after winning only one And they say there had
:08:06. > :08:08.been a "significant, unexpected and persistent decline
:08:09. > :08:14.in results, team unity and morale". Celtic are now just two
:08:15. > :08:18.wins away from another Scottish Premiership title,
:08:19. > :08:20.but they were prevented from a 23rd straight league victory
:08:21. > :08:22.by their Old Firm rivals. They were held to a 1-1 draw
:08:23. > :08:26.at Celtic Park after a late So Celtic are just the 25
:08:27. > :08:38.points clear of Aberdeen There are no British
:08:39. > :08:42.players left in the singles draw at the Indian Wells
:08:43. > :08:44.tennis in California. Women's number one, Johanna Konta,
:08:45. > :08:46.said she wasn't "brave enough", after losing in three sets
:08:47. > :08:49.to Caroline Garcia of France. A few years ago, Andy Murray
:08:50. > :08:52.predicted that Garcia would make it She's currently ranked 25th,
:08:53. > :09:00.14 places lower than Konta. Also out both remaining men,
:09:01. > :09:02.Kyle Edmund lost in straight While British number two Dan Evans
:09:03. > :09:06.was beaten by Kei Nishikori, And Judd Trump says he's
:09:07. > :09:16.hitting form at the right time, ahead of snooker's
:09:17. > :09:19.World Championship next month. He came from 5-2 down to beat
:09:20. > :09:24.Marco Fu 10-8 in the final of the Players Championship
:09:25. > :09:39.in Llandudno, that's Trump's second That is it for now, much more coming
:09:40. > :09:40.up in the headlines at 10:30 a.m.. Good morning, welcome to the
:09:41. > :09:42.programme. This morning, we've been telling
:09:43. > :09:44.you about a pioneering trial which has the potential
:09:45. > :09:47.to save lives and save the NHS But is there a reluctance
:09:48. > :09:51.amongst some in the medical community to adopt it
:09:52. > :09:53.because it involves dogs? Initial studies show specially
:09:54. > :09:56.trained dogs can detect prostate In an exclusive film for this
:09:57. > :10:00.programme, the former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith tells
:10:01. > :10:02.us he wants to see it England's Health Secretary Jeremy
:10:03. > :10:11.Hunt has promised he will personally take a look at the results
:10:12. > :10:13.of an initial trial. We played you Iain Duncan Smith's
:10:14. > :10:16.full film earlier in the programme. I'm the Member of Parliament
:10:17. > :10:23.for Chingford and Woodford Green. I used to be a member
:10:24. > :10:27.of the Cabinet but I'm not I'm here to talk about something
:10:28. > :10:31.much, much more interesting. Dogs like these are capable
:10:32. > :10:33.of detecting the tiniest I mean up to one part
:10:34. > :10:38.per trillion, maybe even more. That means that once properly
:10:39. > :10:41.trained they are able to detect odours associated with disease
:10:42. > :10:46.in human beings. In other words, these dogs
:10:47. > :10:48.are capable of literally In this test, a specially trained
:10:49. > :10:55.cancer detection dog is told to circle a carousel holding eight
:10:56. > :11:00.evenly spaced urine samples. One is from a patient with prostate
:11:01. > :11:03.cancer and the other seven Remarkably the dog is able to detect
:11:04. > :11:18.the sample from a cancer patient. Dr Claire Guest is a leading figure
:11:19. > :11:22.in driving this research forward. We don't know exactly
:11:23. > :11:25.what it is the dogs use to make the identification that the cancer
:11:26. > :11:28.is there but we know it is We are doing an incredibly
:11:29. > :11:32.robust clinical trial. We've got 3000 patients
:11:33. > :11:35.who are going to be involved in this trial detecting prostate
:11:36. > :11:39.cancer from urine. Dogs can also be trained to alert
:11:40. > :11:42.patients with conditions such as type one diabetes to a minute
:11:43. > :11:45.shift in their blood sugar levels which might in extreme cases signal
:11:46. > :11:50.the onset of a coma. Steve was diagnosed with type
:11:51. > :11:57.one diabetes in 2006. Before Molly arrived,
:11:58. > :12:00.where were the big problems? When Stephen was little
:12:01. > :12:07.we would have him running around We would be scooping him up
:12:08. > :12:13.and putting him on the sofa I had gone in in the night and he'd
:12:14. > :12:18.had seizures so we were testing every hour and a half to two hours
:12:19. > :12:21.all night every single night. So you were getting
:12:22. > :12:23.up through the night And we did that until Molly
:12:24. > :12:28.came along and suddenly That's when we stopped and I now
:12:29. > :12:32.only get up when she alerts. Claire is also a type one diabetic
:12:33. > :12:35.and she is also a beneficiary of her dog's ability to detect
:12:36. > :12:38.shifts in blood glucose levels that In the three and a half years
:12:39. > :12:46.that we have been together, he has alerted and potentially
:12:47. > :12:49.saved my life over 3500 times and he does it
:12:50. > :12:54.all for a dog biscuit. What Magic has allowed me to do
:12:55. > :12:58.is I can go to bed and not be afraid that I'm never going to wake up
:12:59. > :13:01.in the morning, that I can have an ordinary life,
:13:02. > :13:04.do ordinary things, and I've got an amazing companion
:13:05. > :13:06.that's going to follow me I've been so impressed
:13:07. > :13:11.by the progress that's been made in this field that I wanted to find
:13:12. > :13:15.out why its potential hasn't been I went to see my old colleague,
:13:16. > :13:18.the Health Secretary I think probably ideas like this
:13:19. > :13:23.sometimes don't get looked at as quickly as they should
:13:24. > :13:26.because they get put But if this research is good then
:13:27. > :13:45.I want to know about it and I will certainly look
:13:46. > :13:47.at it carefully. We need to recognise that we can
:13:48. > :13:49.still reimagine our centuries-old relationship with dogs and find
:13:50. > :13:52.new ways to make use of their absolutely
:13:53. > :13:53.extraordinary abilities. So should the NHS get behind
:13:54. > :13:57.cancer-detecting dogs? He became interested
:13:58. > :14:00.in the issue after his wife, who had breast cancer,
:14:01. > :14:03.became a trustee of the charity Claire Guest who is a research
:14:04. > :14:06.scientist and co-founder of that Cancer expert Professor Karol Sikora
:14:07. > :14:11.and Dr Emma Smith from Cancer There are many other ways
:14:12. > :14:22.dogs can save people's Also with us Carolyn Gatenby
:14:23. > :14:27.who is here with her dog Simba. He helps her to manage her type 1
:14:28. > :14:42.diabetes and has saved her She will tell you all about that in
:14:43. > :14:47.a moment. Welcome to all of you. We have had a huge response. People are
:14:48. > :14:52.fascinated. Tell us how you became interested in the potential of these
:14:53. > :14:57.dogs to do this? It was because, as the film so, my wife had quite late
:14:58. > :15:01.detection of cancer. I still kick myself over the fact I hadn't
:15:02. > :15:07.spotted what was going on. She went through all of the stuff everybody
:15:08. > :15:12.has to do, the chemo, radiotherapy, mastectomy. All of these are very
:15:13. > :15:17.traumatic for somebody. Coming out at the end of it, a couple of years
:15:18. > :15:22.later, she has still been knocked back a bit and has less energy than
:15:23. > :15:26.she used to have. Somebody mentioned there was this organisation and she
:15:27. > :15:30.went to have a look at it and was bowled over by what they were doing.
:15:31. > :15:35.If they are detecting earlier than most of the medical tests seem to
:15:36. > :15:40.be, then why not try and find a way to get the medical side to use this
:15:41. > :15:44.and to engage. That is what she went to do and eventually got so
:15:45. > :15:49.involved, she has become part of the trust. It is remarkable, when you
:15:50. > :15:53.get to see it, we have had the cancer specialist from the health
:15:54. > :16:00.department go down, Skype Tickle. Bowled over after an hour and a
:16:01. > :16:04.half. -- sceptical. The Health Secretary, had a poor brief from the
:16:05. > :16:08.health Department. Walked out and he is going to ask why he didn't get a
:16:09. > :16:13.better be. So my question is constantly, they are there, they are
:16:14. > :16:16.showing the signs exist, showing your works, even whatever else we
:16:17. > :16:21.want to do to take this forward, they are here, why can't we use this
:16:22. > :16:28.now and get some funding from the various health agencies.
:16:29. > :16:39.Is Simba all right? Yes. He is agreeing with me. A viewer tweets,
:16:40. > :16:43."A remarkable piece. Dogs are a man's best friend." A viewer said,
:16:44. > :16:49."I spent three years in hospital. She has alerted over 5,000 times and
:16:50. > :16:55.kept me out of hospital." So Clare, the question, are the dogs really
:16:56. > :17:00.detecting earlier than conventional tests? We have a long way to go in
:17:01. > :17:04.term of working out how early they are able to diagnose the cancer.
:17:05. > :17:10.Yes, the dog finds it easier the earlier the stage of the cancer.
:17:11. > :17:16.That's because, we are using the dog's incredible sense of smell.
:17:17. > :17:20.What we see is that every disease and condition in cancer has its own
:17:21. > :17:27.biochemical changes which produce an odour change in our bodies. It is
:17:28. > :17:33.like sitting next to someone with nice aftershave on. Now, we have
:17:34. > :17:41.this big three year trial with 3,000 patients and we're looking at it not
:17:42. > :17:45.only their reliability and accuracy, they are more reliable than the
:17:46. > :17:49.current prostate cancer which is the PSA, the blood test which
:17:50. > :17:56.unfortunately though it picks up cancer well, it has a high false
:17:57. > :18:01.positive rate. That leads to unnecessary interventions? Yes and
:18:02. > :18:05.unnecessary anxiety. The dog detects with a high level of accuracy
:18:06. > :18:10.without that false positive read. That's what's going to be exciting.
:18:11. > :18:14.Cancer volatiles travel from infected cells into the urine as the
:18:15. > :18:17.body tries to dispose of the chemicals. It is thought the dogs
:18:18. > :18:22.can pick up the odour of the volatiles. You say in prostate it is
:18:23. > :18:27.93% accurate? That's what the training trials have shown and there
:18:28. > :18:34.is a publication in Italy that showed it was 98% reliable from a
:18:35. > :18:37.drop of urine. When a dog looks at a volatile pattern sorted with a
:18:38. > :18:42.disease, the less it is going on in the body, the more strongly that
:18:43. > :18:46.pattern stands out. That's why in early detections the dogs are very
:18:47. > :18:51.good. The difference between someone who is healthy and someone with
:18:52. > :18:55.cancer odour is very, very big. By the time that person becomes very
:18:56. > :18:58.unwell, there is so much going on that the dog has to peer through the
:18:59. > :19:03.disease and the conditions to see the volatiles. Professor, there is
:19:04. > :19:09.not much you don't know about cancer, what do you think about it?
:19:10. > :19:14.It is fascinating. I love dogs and I have one myself, but we have to get
:19:15. > :19:16.away from the dog. The dog had evolutionary training to smell
:19:17. > :19:20.something we don't understand. We have got to find out what it is and
:19:21. > :19:24.develop a laboratory test. The trouble with using animals and when
:19:25. > :19:28.I heard about this, Clare, I thought you'd come to the clinic and the dog
:19:29. > :19:32.would round up the patients that have got cancer and shoe the others
:19:33. > :19:36.out of the clinic. We have got to work out what the dog is detecting
:19:37. > :19:44.and then make a laboratory test and that would be practical. We haven't
:19:45. > :19:51.done that yet. I'm saying, we, I have got nothing to do with it?
:19:52. > :19:54.Since 2004 there were in-roads, the interest has been reignited in the
:19:55. > :19:58.detection of cancer through volatiles. The dog's sense of smell
:19:59. > :20:02.sin credibly reliable and that's going to be the challenge. Emma
:20:03. > :20:09.Smith Cancer Research UK, what's your view? I'm not sceptical about
:20:10. > :20:13.the science behind it. There is good rational for looking for the smelly
:20:14. > :20:22.molecules to get cancer diagnosed earlier. Like Carol said, there is
:20:23. > :20:29.no way we could be using dogs as a routine diagnostic test. Why not?
:20:30. > :20:32.350,000 people are diagnosed. Dogs need feeding and walking and they
:20:33. > :20:35.need a rest and plus I would be interested to look at economics of
:20:36. > :20:40.how much it would cost to keep the dogs and to have working dogs as
:20:41. > :20:43.opposed to a test. You say you want to look for another way to do there,
:20:44. > :20:46.but as you start looking for that right now, what has been
:20:47. > :20:50.demonstrated categorically that it is possible for dogs to do this.
:20:51. > :20:53.Now, you say there are lots of different people diagnosed with
:20:54. > :20:57.cancerment even if the dogs save one life, this is quite important. You
:20:58. > :21:01.say it's not practical. I challenge you to go to medical detection dogs
:21:02. > :21:05.and figure out how practical it is to set-up different centres, call
:21:06. > :21:08.them laboratories if you like, to detect cancer instead of saying no,
:21:09. > :21:11.we're not going to do that, why don't you say, let's embrace this.
:21:12. > :21:15.Let's help them and support them with finance and let's see where
:21:16. > :21:18.this goes first of all with the dags and then extrapolate to see whether
:21:19. > :21:22.or not in the future you can produce something else that replicates a
:21:23. > :21:28.dog, but at moment you've got dogs and they're better than the medical
:21:29. > :21:33.test. It is being embraced and that's why the research is on going
:21:34. > :21:38.and Clare is doing her studies. We will take it to biotech companies
:21:39. > :21:42.and develop a mechanical test. I think Emma is correct. It is
:21:43. > :21:55.impracticable to have the dogs do it. And the biotech industry should
:21:56. > :21:58.grab this. They don't think that because science is molecular. The
:21:59. > :22:05.dog has it in his brain and his nose. Smelly molecules are not
:22:06. > :22:09.something that has been researched. I don't understand why the medical
:22:10. > :22:15.profession is so resistant to saying we can do these in parallel, you can
:22:16. > :22:20.learn from one while we learn to diagnose cancer at the same time and
:22:21. > :22:23.we can run a parallel process that says extragting from the wider sense
:22:24. > :22:26.of what we're doing will learn more as the dogs do more with it rather
:22:27. > :22:30.than saying it is all very well, we will have a look at this, but we put
:22:31. > :22:34.our money and our thoughts in here. What we should do, in any other walk
:22:35. > :22:38.of life everybody in science and engineering, they would be doing
:22:39. > :22:42.parallel work. Use what you've got now, parallel that with testing. At
:22:43. > :22:49.the moment you just want to do the bit on the electronic nose. We don't
:22:50. > :22:54.use diagnostic tests until we have robust evidence that it works. You
:22:55. > :22:57.can get robust evidence on this. We will have the situation where some
:22:58. > :23:00.cases are missed and other people are getting a positive result when
:23:01. > :23:09.actually they don't need fi nurt tests. What about the pH A test.
:23:10. > :23:13.Every man will tell you, it is a horrible test... That's why it is
:23:14. > :23:18.not a screening test. Why don't we think about that more and even
:23:19. > :23:22.checking on the PSA test and run it past the dogs. There are issues with
:23:23. > :23:26.the PSA test and I don't think anyone would recommend that as a
:23:27. > :23:32.single test to determine whether a man has prostate cans are or not. So
:23:33. > :23:37.a doctor will look at all the man's other symptoms and do a physical
:23:38. > :23:44.examination and combine that with information from the PSA test. The
:23:45. > :23:48.PSA test is not a diagnosis. Hundreds of people go to have that
:23:49. > :23:53.second test I is painful and can lead to disease because they can't
:23:54. > :23:58.focus on who has. Why not use the dogs? We never ever believed it was
:23:59. > :24:05.dog or the dog took over. What we believe is the dog can assist the
:24:06. > :24:11.cln i and the -- clinician and the point is if somebody has a raised
:24:12. > :24:15.PSA, why not have a Ukraine test as well and that could be something we
:24:16. > :24:22.could cover because the clinician has the PSA against a urine test but
:24:23. > :24:25.the point that's been so frustrating for myself is that the amount of
:24:26. > :24:30.money that's been invested into this work, we have been going ten years
:24:31. > :24:34.now, we have had to raise money ourselves to do this work whereas
:24:35. > :24:37.other organisations would have spent millions by now to get the answers
:24:38. > :24:42.that we've got and that's the frustration. We have to
:24:43. > :24:45.commercialise it and get the biotech industry involved. It is not
:24:46. > :24:51.something that cancer charities can do. We have got to have peer review
:24:52. > :24:57.publications and then we have to get away from the dog and that will
:24:58. > :25:03.produce the future. Iain is sort of right. I'm seeing patients and the
:25:04. > :25:08.dog comes out positive, what do we know? It is too varied yable,
:25:09. > :25:12.different dogs, different diseases and we have got to get it
:25:13. > :25:20.standardised. This is not standardisable. I want to bring in
:25:21. > :25:25.Carolyn. Megan tweets, "A very interesting report on dogs helping
:25:26. > :25:31.to diagnose cancer by smell." Another viewer says, "Dogs are
:25:32. > :25:36.fantastic animals." ." Explain to our audience, you found out that
:25:37. > :25:41.Simba was touble to detect changes in your medical condition, your type
:25:42. > :25:51.one diabetes? That's right with no warning signals. I had got to the
:25:52. > :25:56.end of my medical profession where they could actually offer me no more
:25:57. > :26:02.really. The only thing they could offer me was a transplant, but the
:26:03. > :26:08.side-effects was breast cancer and I had already been through that. So I
:26:09. > :26:15.knew that I would end up in a nursing home because at that stage I
:26:16. > :26:23.was needing help day and night. And so I actually went on to the
:26:24. > :26:29.internet and found Medical Detection Dogs. And Clare came to assess Simba
:26:30. > :26:33.to see if he was suitable and my goodness, within a week he was
:26:34. > :26:38.actually alerting me. What does that involve? What does that mean? Tell
:26:39. > :26:45.me who aren't aware of what Simba can do. Well, Simba is able to tell
:26:46. > :26:52.me the change in my sugar levels in my blood. So he can alert me when my
:26:53. > :26:56.sugars are going high. -My sugaring going low and when they are also
:26:57. > :27:04.dropping quickly which I suffer from. So I can be quite at a high
:27:05. > :27:13.rate, but within five or ten minutes I could be nearly in a coma. So
:27:14. > :27:21.Simba actually gives me total quality of life. He would jump up at
:27:22. > :27:25.you or... He has got quite a few different ways. The main one, he's
:27:26. > :27:31.coming up to me and licking my face. You would get your kit out which you
:27:32. > :27:38.carry? Frlghts it is teamwork. So when he alerts me, he expects me to
:27:39. > :27:45.take my sugars. Right. He is not usually wrong. The I'm in the normal
:27:46. > :27:51.change and he's chilled out. We can see that. Thank goodness you have
:27:52. > :27:57.been in the normal range while you have been on the programme? That's
:27:58. > :28:05.right. I'm unpredictable, he's there 24 hours a day. I'm getting quite
:28:06. > :28:10.emotional because I believe solely, I've given my life to him because he
:28:11. > :28:16.has given me such a good life. I've had, since he has been trained, I've
:28:17. > :28:23.had six-and-a-half years of quality life. It isn't where I'm scared of
:28:24. > :28:29.going out anymore, I'm living it to the fullest and I'm enjoying it.
:28:30. > :28:34.Good. All I have to do is take Simba wherever I go. He doesn't stop
:28:35. > :28:42.working when he has got his coat off. He is continually working. He's
:28:43. > :28:48.not made to, but as soon as he sees the changes in, or smells the
:28:49. > :28:53.changes, he will react. I know he's chilled. I don't know if we can see
:28:54. > :29:01.him properly. Is it a bit mean if we ask him to stand up. Simba? Simba?
:29:02. > :29:08.Come on. Oh, Simba, you are delicious!
:29:09. > :29:12.Clare was taken to hospital three times a week before she had Simba.
:29:13. > :29:21.She was at risk of going into a care home. There is ?13 million a year
:29:22. > :29:25.spent on hypoglycemic events which could be prevented. I was falling
:29:26. > :29:30.everywhere. I would walk to the shops and end up in a coma so
:29:31. > :29:34.whenever I went out of the house, I never knew if I was going to make it
:29:35. > :29:44.home, but more times than not, I would end up in an ambulance or at
:29:45. > :29:50.the A So my life was very, very on a rocky, you know, place. Well,
:29:51. > :29:55.he has transformed it and saved your life countless times. He is checking
:29:56. > :30:02.her now to see if her sugars are right. This is him. So... So he has
:30:03. > :30:08.just licked your face, do you need to check something? He sensed a
:30:09. > :30:19.change in my odour. So if you don't mind, am I allowed to? We'll look
:30:20. > :30:22.after her. Can you just explain what you're doing as you're doing it
:30:23. > :30:30.because this is really instructive for everybody? Simba has alerted me
:30:31. > :30:36.and so obviously he senses some change within me. In terms of your
:30:37. > :30:43.blood sugar levels? Yes. So my responsibility now is to actually
:30:44. > :30:49.take a test so I know if I'm dropping, I'm low. If I'm dropping
:30:50. > :30:57.quickly, or if I'm going high. So then I can sort myself out. Is it
:30:58. > :31:01.all right, you have just done that. You've clicked your finger. I've
:31:02. > :31:07.wiped me finger. I've wiped everything off. Now I'm going to put
:31:08. > :31:12.blood on my blood strip. OK. So then it will actually tell me what's
:31:13. > :31:18.going on in my body. OK. And before I came in here, I were eight. I'm
:31:19. > :31:35.now 6.9. Just show that to the camera.
:31:36. > :31:44.What Simba is telling me is that I am on a quick drop. What will you
:31:45. > :31:50.need to do? I will need to take Luke said an something to boost my sugars
:31:51. > :31:59.back-up. If not, I walk into my coma, I don't have any signals. Then
:32:00. > :32:04.it is a hospital job. He actually saves the National health thousands
:32:05. > :32:09.and thousands of pounds because I wouldn't acknowledge I was going low
:32:10. > :32:15.and then you would have to take me to hospital. That is extraordinary
:32:16. > :32:20.to see that in action. Thank you, Simba. Iain Duncan Smith, going back
:32:21. > :32:25.to the cancer detection, a number of viewers are criticising you in
:32:26. > :32:33.trying to come over as cosy and cuddly because of your background as
:32:34. > :32:41.Work and Pensions Secretary. You detract from the message, how do you
:32:42. > :32:45.react to that? You will always get politicians on both sides of the
:32:46. > :32:51.fence. But this isn't about politics, you have just seen this,
:32:52. > :32:56.the ability of these dogs to detect cancer and sugar diabetic falls. It
:32:57. > :33:01.is not about me, I am not the founder of this, Claire is. It is
:33:02. > :33:05.not about my involvement, it is about me going to look at it. My
:33:06. > :33:09.wife had breast cancer and like anybody else, once you see
:33:10. > :33:14.something, you think it can be done better, you want to go and change it
:33:15. > :33:19.and it is just about alerting people as to what is going on. Thank you
:33:20. > :33:23.all for coming on the programme. We have breaking news to bring you...
:33:24. > :33:25.Former Crewe Alexandra football coach Barry Bennell has been
:33:26. > :33:27.remanded in custody charged with 12 child sex offences.
:33:28. > :33:29.Our correspondent Katie Gornall is at South Cheshire
:33:30. > :33:44.Victoria, Barry Bennell didn't appear in person, he appeared via
:33:45. > :33:49.video link on Raman. We saw him on a TV screen in the corner of the court
:33:50. > :33:54.room, he was wearing a blue jumper and sat with his arms crossed. Spoke
:33:55. > :33:59.only to confirm his name and date of birth and understood the fresh 12
:34:00. > :34:04.charges. These include for indecent assault charges relating to a boy
:34:05. > :34:09.under 14 alleged to have taken place between 1981 and 1982 and eight
:34:10. > :34:16.counts of child sex abuse relating to two boys under the age of 16,
:34:17. > :34:20.alleged to have taken place between 1980 and 1987. Barry Bennell is a
:34:21. > :34:30.former football coach with Crewe Alexander. He has now been remanded
:34:31. > :34:33.into custody, as you say, where he will appear again on the 22nd of
:34:34. > :34:36.March, faced with a total of 20 child sex abuse allegations. It
:34:37. > :34:40.follows on from a recent court appearance where he pleaded not
:34:41. > :34:46.guilty to similar offences. He will appear at Chester Crown Court on the
:34:47. > :34:48.22nd of March facing 20 child sex abuse allegations. Thank you very
:34:49. > :35:02.much. Still to come: Aid agencies are
:35:03. > :35:05.warning time is running out to save 20 million people facing famine in
:35:06. > :35:08.African countries. We will speak to people in each of the affected
:35:09. > :35:18.nations who are working on the ground. And...
:35:19. > :35:21.Still to come, what's the best way for a superstar singer to avoid
:35:22. > :35:24.being distracted by adoring fans on the way to the stage?
:35:25. > :35:32.Adele hides in a giant box. More later.
:35:33. > :35:34.Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
:35:35. > :35:38.MPs are due to debate changes to the Brexit bill
:35:39. > :35:42.It comes after the House of Lords voted in favour of amendments
:35:43. > :35:44.which would guarantee the rights of EU citizens living
:35:45. > :35:47.in the UK, and would give parliament a "meaningful" say
:35:48. > :35:51.If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start
:35:52. > :35:53.the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.
:35:54. > :35:56.A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,
:35:57. > :35:59.over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.
:36:00. > :36:01.David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared
:36:02. > :36:04.for his life during a fight with the police officer,
:36:05. > :36:07.who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.
:36:08. > :36:09.His partner Sara Connor has been sentenced to four years
:36:10. > :36:13.Rail staff from three firms across England have started 24-hour
:36:14. > :36:15.strikes in a dispute over the role of guards.
:36:16. > :36:18.The RMT's 30th strike day in its dispute with Southern over
:36:19. > :36:19.plans for driver-only-operated trains, has spread to
:36:20. > :36:25.Guards and drivers working for Merseyrail and Northern are taking
:36:26. > :36:29.Rail bosses argue it's about modernising services
:36:30. > :36:38.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC
:36:39. > :36:48.Spurs ensured the FA Cup semi finals will be an all Premier League affair
:36:49. > :36:50.after beating League one Millwall 6-0 in the last
:36:51. > :36:56.South Korean Son-Hueng Min scored a hat-trick after top scorer
:36:57. > :36:58.Harry Kane was forced off with what looked like
:36:59. > :37:11.They joined Manchester City and Arsenal in the last four.
:37:12. > :37:13.Celtic are now just two wins away from another
:37:14. > :37:15.Scottish Premiership title, but they were prevented from a 23rd
:37:16. > :37:17.straight league victory by their Old Firm rivals.
:37:18. > :37:20.They were held to a 1-1 draw at Celtic Park after a late
:37:21. > :37:24.So Celtic are just the 25 points clear of Aberdeen
:37:25. > :37:28.Managing Derby County seems to be something of a tricky challenge,
:37:29. > :37:32.Steve McClaren has been sacked for a second time, only five months
:37:33. > :37:36.Derby are tenth in the Championship after winning only one
:37:37. > :37:39.Former Birmingham boss, Gary row it is the overwhelming favourite to
:37:40. > :37:40.replace him. There are no British
:37:41. > :37:42.players left in the singles draw at the Indian Wells
:37:43. > :37:44.tennis in California. Women's number one, Johanna Konta,
:37:45. > :37:46.said she wasn't "brave enough", after losing in three sets
:37:47. > :37:49.to Caroline Garcia of France. A few years ago, Andy Murray
:37:50. > :37:52.predicted that Garcia would make it She's currently ranked 25th,
:37:53. > :37:55.14 places lower than Konta. Also out both remaining men,
:37:56. > :37:57.Kyle Edmund lost in straight While British number two Dan Evans
:37:58. > :38:01.was beaten by Kei Nishikori, The government is urging MPs
:38:02. > :38:04.to reject the changes to the Brexit Bill which were made
:38:05. > :38:08.by the Lords when it returns to be Our political guru
:38:09. > :38:13.Norman Smith is here. How will it play out? Let me talk
:38:14. > :38:16.you through the choreography of what will be a big and confusing day at
:38:17. > :38:25.Westminster. The Brexit bill comes back to the Commons round about
:38:26. > :38:29.3:30pm today. What we will get is a sort of Parliamentary ping-pong when
:38:30. > :38:34.the bill shuttles back and forwards between the Commons and Lords.
:38:35. > :38:39.Because when it first came to the House of Commons last month, it was
:38:40. > :38:44.approved without any amendments at all. It went through with huge
:38:45. > :38:51.majorities. It then went to the House of Lords, but the House of
:38:52. > :38:54.Lords inflicted two defeats on the government. Won over guaranteeing
:38:55. > :39:01.the rights of EU nationals and the one over guaranteeing Parliament and
:39:02. > :39:06.meaningful vote. Now that Bill goes back to the Commons today. David
:39:07. > :39:11.Davis, the Brexit secretary will open the debate and we are expecting
:39:12. > :39:16.a vote around six o'clock. But the likelihood is, MPs will overturn
:39:17. > :39:21.those two defeats. Then, the bill goes back to the House of Lords.
:39:22. > :39:26.Round about ten o'clock, I think we will get the final vote in the House
:39:27. > :39:36.of Lords. The thinking of most people is, the House of Lords will
:39:37. > :39:38.back down, which means by the close of play today, Theresa May will
:39:39. > :39:41.probably have her Brexit bill. The only question then, we are waiting
:39:42. > :39:47.to see when will she trigger it, when will she "A set of leaving the
:39:48. > :39:51.EU. She has got until the end of March, but she could go tomorrow.
:39:52. > :39:58.The only person who does know is Theresa May and maybe her husband.
:39:59. > :40:10.And anybody who says they do know, I am not sure they are telling the
:40:11. > :40:20.truth. That speak to our guests. I am seeking Parliament will have a
:40:21. > :40:24.meaningful and timely vote towards the end of the negotiation process.
:40:25. > :40:31.It is important is our Parliament sees first, the final deal, if you
:40:32. > :40:36.like, before it goes to the European Union. Hasn't Theresa May said you
:40:37. > :40:40.will get some kind of vote? She has, but we need some clarity. The other
:40:41. > :40:45.question to answer is what would happen if we don't get a deal at
:40:46. > :40:50.all? That would mean we would be heading towards leaving the European
:40:51. > :40:54.Union without any proper arrangements with 27 nation states
:40:55. > :41:01.and the European Union as a whole. Do you expect to get an answer to
:41:02. > :41:04.that today? I will be seeking an answer. David Davis, an effective
:41:05. > :41:12.parliamentarian himself, will go some way, and I hope the whole way,
:41:13. > :41:15.towards reassuring us that the Parliamentary sovereignty matters.
:41:16. > :41:20.What do you think of your colleague, who might potentially vote against
:41:21. > :41:25.the government the night? It is a pity if they do. You cannot stop
:41:26. > :41:28.them of course, but this is a referendum authorised by the
:41:29. > :41:32.sovereign act of Parliament, it passed the House of Commons and the
:41:33. > :41:37.House of Lords by a massive majority. In the House of Commons,
:41:38. > :41:42.by 544 and then we got in the business of the Supreme Court. The
:41:43. > :41:45.bottom line is, we accepted of course, the House of Commons and the
:41:46. > :41:53.House of Lords would need to have a bill to legislate, but simply form a
:41:54. > :41:56.question. This is the main point, to notify the withdrawal process. It
:41:57. > :42:01.wasn't to go into all begins an ounce, but it was to deal with the
:42:02. > :42:08.simple question. That is what happened, with a massive majority,
:42:09. > :42:13.499 to around 120 or something. I see in Neal and nodding his head,
:42:14. > :42:16.because he knows it is the case. On the third reading, which took into
:42:17. > :42:20.account the amendments which had already been discussed, which cover
:42:21. > :42:25.these questions as well, Niall and others did vote. It is up to people
:42:26. > :42:29.to make up their own minds, but the House of Lords has its own
:42:30. > :42:33.functions, they had an opportunity to look at it. But the time has come
:42:34. > :42:40.now, we don't want the Prime Minister's hands to betide. She
:42:41. > :42:43.would find herself in extreme difficult circumstances, if there
:42:44. > :42:46.was some arrangements as a result of these amendments, the effect of
:42:47. > :42:50.which was to give leveraged to those who want to make it as difficult as
:42:51. > :42:55.possible for her in the negotiations. Why do you think it is
:42:56. > :43:01.right to attach conditions to this simple, short bill which is, simply
:43:02. > :43:05.about triggering the process? I am not thinking we should be attaching
:43:06. > :43:10.any conditions, because it is a short Bill anyway. It is about
:43:11. > :43:14.process and not outcomes. If we were talking about outcomes, we would be
:43:15. > :43:18.talking about all sorts of priorities we might have. What we
:43:19. > :43:24.are talking about is process. It is about giving Parliament the ability
:43:25. > :43:29.to comment on and decide upon aspects of the deal as it emerges.
:43:30. > :43:37.And I think it is also important to note, it would be I think, sensible,
:43:38. > :43:42.to have some sort of process to discuss the situation if we don't
:43:43. > :43:47.get a deal. Because we have two years and just two years. Now is the
:43:48. > :43:51.time to put down a marker that in about 18 months, or thereabouts, we
:43:52. > :44:00.should have an opportunity to discuss what the actual process is.
:44:01. > :44:07.What if there is no deal? The bottom line on that is, as David Davis said
:44:08. > :44:11.yesterday, he has been discussing the whole question, if there is no
:44:12. > :44:15.deal, what the outcome would be in terms of a planned. We had the
:44:16. > :44:21.chairman of the foreign affairs select committee yesterday as well,
:44:22. > :44:25.who discuss this. They said if there is no deal, they would hope there is
:44:26. > :44:30.a plan. David Davis and the government have made it clear, there
:44:31. > :44:34.is a plan. One of the problems in relation to negotiations before the
:44:35. > :44:39.referendum, David Cameron and his government, didn't have a plan. It
:44:40. > :44:45.is clear to us, Theresa May's government does have a plan. You
:44:46. > :44:51.think so? Will they tell us what the plan is if there isn't a deal? You
:44:52. > :44:55.have to conceive, it is not appropriate to go out and tell
:44:56. > :45:00.people on the other side of the negotiating table, everything you
:45:01. > :45:03.will be doing. It is part of the negotiations. I think basically
:45:04. > :45:07.there will be a good discussion this afternoon. We want to come to the
:45:08. > :45:11.end of this process and get royal assent and get on with it. That is
:45:12. > :45:17.what people outside really want. Thank you both for coming on the
:45:18. > :45:20.programme. Aid agencies are warning that time
:45:21. > :45:23.is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine
:45:24. > :45:25.in four African countries. It has been described as the worst
:45:26. > :45:28.humanitarian crisis in 60 years. This next film contains upsetting
:45:29. > :45:32.images right from the beginning. This baby was four months
:45:33. > :45:35.old when a BBC team He's one of millions in Yemen
:45:36. > :45:41.who could be on the verge The UN says more than 20 million
:45:42. > :45:50.people face the threat of starvation and famine in Somalia,
:45:51. > :45:55.South Sudan, Nigeria and Yemen. It could be the biggest
:45:56. > :46:00.humanitarian crisis since 1945. In Yemen, a child dies every ten
:46:01. > :46:06.minutes from a preventable disease. The Red Cross says the ongoing
:46:07. > :46:09.conflict in the country The same is happening
:46:10. > :46:15.in South Sudan. Three years of civil war
:46:16. > :46:17.there have pushed millions Conflict fuelled by the extremist
:46:18. > :46:23.militants Boko Haram in Nigeria is also causing an unfolding
:46:24. > :46:25.disaster in the north More than seven million people
:46:26. > :46:37.in Nigeria are severely food insecure which means
:46:38. > :46:39.they don't have regular access And in Somalia it has only been six
:46:40. > :46:45.years since the last time Then it was estimated that more
:46:46. > :46:52.than a quarter of a million Again civil unrest is the main cause
:46:53. > :46:57.of the crisis in Somalia but a lack of water and underdevelopment
:46:58. > :46:59.is being blamed as well, leaving more than 6 million
:47:00. > :47:04.in need of urgent help. Unicef has warned that
:47:05. > :47:06.1.4 million children It says it needs ?3.5 billion
:47:07. > :47:12.to prevent the disaster 20 million people potentially
:47:13. > :47:23.starving to death in 2017. We can speak to Kevin Watkins,
:47:24. > :47:35.the boss of the Save the Children and says the international community
:47:36. > :47:37.is sitting on its hands. We can also speak to people in each
:47:38. > :47:40.of the four countries affected. Shabia Mantoo is on the ground
:47:41. > :47:43.for the UN Refugee Council in Yemen, a country where it's thought a child
:47:44. > :47:47.dies every ten minutes. Challiss McDonough is with the UN's
:47:48. > :47:49.World Food Programme Sadia Allin is in
:47:50. > :48:10.Somalia for ActionAid. Charles works for Christian Aid. You
:48:11. > :48:14.say there has been warnings, but nothing happened. Why? We have got
:48:15. > :48:18.into the habit of waiting until we see the starving children on our
:48:19. > :48:23.screens before we act on the problem and the 20 million number is a very
:48:24. > :48:27.big number. If I can give you one example of a boy behind that number.
:48:28. > :48:33.So last Thursday, I was in Somalia. I met a young lad who had been
:48:34. > :48:38.admitted to one of our emergency feeding clinics. 18 months old. He
:48:39. > :48:43.weighed 12lbs. That's the average weight of a ten week old baby in the
:48:44. > :48:50.UK. He had extreme diarrhoea. He was on the point of death. His life was
:48:51. > :48:54.saved. And speaking to his mother, a woman called eye sha, you realised
:48:55. > :48:59.the sheer anguish that the statistics don't capture. I've got
:49:00. > :49:02.two little boys myself and putting yourself in the position of these
:49:03. > :49:06.boys who want to keep their children alive and I believe have a right to
:49:07. > :49:10.expect far more of the international community than has been on offer so
:49:11. > :49:16.far. We need more resources. We need governments around the world to stop
:49:17. > :49:19.the obstruction of humanitarian aid in countries like Yemen and we need
:49:20. > :49:25.to start treating this as the crisis that it really is. We've got a
:49:26. > :49:30.shrinking window of opportunity over the next month to stop what is
:49:31. > :49:36.already a bad situation becoming a catastrophe. OK, four weeks, three
:49:37. > :49:40.weeks, to change things? To try and potentially reverse some of this
:49:41. > :49:44.horrific situation? Well, we know from the UN figure that is we need
:49:45. > :49:48.at least $4 billion in these countries by June. Now that seems
:49:49. > :49:53.like a huge figure, but there is a lot that we can do. It takes us
:49:54. > :49:57.around $10 per child to identify kids who are malnourished, to get
:49:58. > :50:01.them to our treatment centres, to get them the basic antibiotics that
:50:02. > :50:07.they need, the nutrition that they need so we've launched an appeal to
:50:08. > :50:13.try and tackle the problem. We're aiming to reach 100,000 children
:50:14. > :50:16.over the next few weeks. If the international community got behind
:50:17. > :50:23.this and the World Bank, the UK you can is doing a good job,
:50:24. > :50:30.approximates putting money into the financial pipeline, but others need
:50:31. > :50:33.to step up to the plate. Challiss tell us about the people that you
:50:34. > :50:41.are seeing there who need food? The things that I have seen are, they
:50:42. > :50:49.are unimaginable. It would seem unimaginable if I hadn't met people
:50:50. > :50:53.who had been through that. So in a village in Southern Unity. I met a
:50:54. > :50:57.woman who had runaway from her home when fighting had come there and had
:50:58. > :51:01.to runaway and for two months she walked until she reached a village
:51:02. > :51:04.where there was safety because it is surrounded by swamping. Somewhere in
:51:05. > :51:09.the course of the two months she gave birth. She was eight months
:51:10. > :51:14.pregnant when she left and she arrived with a six-week old child.
:51:15. > :51:18.So she was carrying a newborn baby through the swamps, trying to get
:51:19. > :51:22.her family to safety. And that's the kind of thing that I have seen like,
:51:23. > :51:26.it is des per operation, one of needing to provide for your family,
:51:27. > :51:30.and to keep them safe and these are things that I think anyone in the
:51:31. > :51:36.world can understand, but it is very hrd to imagine the lengths to which
:51:37. > :51:39.people have to go to meet their children's most basic needs. If she
:51:40. > :51:44.hadn't been able to reach the village then it would have been
:51:45. > :51:48.desperation and possibly death for her newborn baby, but she could get
:51:49. > :51:53.to some place where help could reach her and the important thing now is
:51:54. > :52:01.we can try to get that kind of assistance to people in as many
:52:02. > :52:07.parts of Unity State as possible. In Yemen, how bad is it there? Well,
:52:08. > :52:12.it is abysmal. We are talking about Yemen which is one of the world's
:52:13. > :52:17.worst crisis and people are facing misery. To describe to you, I met a
:52:18. > :52:23.few days ago a little boy who was actually just 14 years old. For me,
:52:24. > :52:28.he encapsulated what is happening in Yemen in terms of the desperation
:52:29. > :52:34.and the danger. He was just a little boy who fled from his home with his
:52:35. > :52:40.family. Inn a country that's affected by conflict. The population
:52:41. > :52:44.have fled. A lot of people have fled to dimp places across Yemenment so
:52:45. > :52:47.he was one of them and he fled with his family and now they are living
:52:48. > :52:55.on the street. They have nowhere to go. Nowhere safe. The town is
:52:56. > :53:00.affected by conflict. They fled to another area only to be faced by
:53:01. > :53:04.danger. This little boy has diabetes and now he is malnourished because
:53:05. > :53:09.there is not enough food. 14 million people in the country don't have
:53:10. > :53:14.enough food and three million people are national nourished. This boy is
:53:15. > :53:18.one of them. He is displaced and has diabetes and he sits on the street
:53:19. > :53:22.outside his tent. He can't get help from the hospital because 45% of
:53:23. > :53:25.Yemen's health facilities are incapacitated as a result of the
:53:26. > :53:28.conflict. It is abysmal. His parents were in tears. They don't know what
:53:29. > :53:31.to do and parents like his across the country are having to make
:53:32. > :53:36.really painful decisions about which child to save. Which child to feed
:53:37. > :53:41.with whatever meagre resources they have and for this family, they
:53:42. > :53:45.received emergency assistance, but they need continual assistance and
:53:46. > :53:49.it is not enough. So they were just receiving supplies from the local
:53:50. > :53:54.community, but the situation here, it is abysmal and this story is just
:53:55. > :53:59.one of 90 million who are in need. Which child to save? Which child to
:54:00. > :54:04.feed? This is extraordinary. Sadia in Somalia. Famine was declared
:54:05. > :54:12.there six years agoment how is it happening again? Three consecutive
:54:13. > :54:18.years without rain and 500,000 people in extreme hunger and we are
:54:19. > :54:23.witnessing the sad realities. When you meet people, it is when you
:54:24. > :54:28.realise the death and devastation. I met this woman. She is a widow. She
:54:29. > :54:37.is a mother of five children. She lost all her animals. She did not
:54:38. > :54:43.have the energy and the ability to move to search for water. She has
:54:44. > :54:51.been travelling months and months and she didn't eat in days. When
:54:52. > :54:55.ActionAid found and assisted her, we should remember in 2011 more than a
:54:56. > :55:02.quarter of million Somali lost their lives, but today, we have the
:55:03. > :55:06.chance. We need the international community to step up so we can scale
:55:07. > :55:12.up and speed up our response before it is too late. I would like towned
:55:13. > :55:18.in line those affected people have been the greatest contributors to
:55:19. > :55:22.the country's economy and losing their animals. They lose their pride
:55:23. > :55:30.and dignity. These people have never asked anyone for support, but we
:55:31. > :55:39.have been depending on them for meat, milk and it is in natural
:55:40. > :55:49.disaster which is making them so in extreme hunger.
:55:50. > :55:52.Let me cross to Nigeria. Describe the situation that you have seen
:55:53. > :56:00.first hand in the north-east of the country, Charles? Yes, this is
:56:01. > :56:10.Charles. So, in Nigeria, there were six States affected. Three of them
:56:11. > :56:14.badly. They were badly hit by the insurgency. We talk about two
:56:15. > :56:22.million people in dire need of food and assistance. The majority of the
:56:23. > :56:25.people in Nigeria who have been affected by a crisis, live in
:56:26. > :56:30.communities and that brings a different twist to what you see aco
:56:31. > :56:34.the world. The majority of people live with families who are already
:56:35. > :56:44.impoverished and stretched beyond their limits. Now, with the famine,
:56:45. > :56:48.we already have families who, an average sized family of seven to
:56:49. > :56:53.nine people who are barely able to eat one square meal a day and have
:56:54. > :57:02.another ten people to give an average size of 20 people per family
:57:03. > :57:07.then you know the situation is urgent and desperate. People are
:57:08. > :57:11.looking for a means to eat and to survive. Because of the conflict,
:57:12. > :57:17.typically if it is not well supported which is what the UN and
:57:18. > :57:23.NGOs are doing in Nigeria, it is about survival for the fittest. So
:57:24. > :57:26.we find situations whereby wherever there are food RACses there is a
:57:27. > :57:33.scramble because people are desperate for any form of food.
:57:34. > :57:38.Talking to a woman who has 20 people in her home. She is the head of this
:57:39. > :57:42.household, she has to feed them, and she is the oldest, she is the
:57:43. > :57:48.strongest, but she is not able to walk properly because she is weak.
:57:49. > :57:55.Having stayed days without food and without food, it is more of a local
:57:56. > :57:58.meal, more starch and less nutrients and proteins and all of that. It was
:57:59. > :58:02.difficult for her to move around and to compete with the more strong and
:58:03. > :58:07.able-bodied people in the scramble for food. This is really
:58:08. > :58:12.difficult... I'm going to leave it there Charles. We get the message.
:58:13. > :58:14.Thank you all of you and thank you too to Kevin Watkins the boss of
:58:15. > :58:18.Save The Children. On the programme tomorrow, exclusive
:58:19. > :58:27.access to a firearms training Thank you for your company today.
:58:28. > :58:31.You can see the cancer detecting dogs film on our programme page.