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:00:07. > :00:08.Hello it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:09. > :00:16.This morning: How do firearms officers make split second

:00:17. > :00:18.decisions on when to shoot a dangerous suspect?

:00:19. > :00:21.In the worst case scenario you could end up in a situation

:00:22. > :00:26.That's why it all comes down to decision-making,

:00:27. > :00:28.that's why that's so crucial and I think you've got

:00:29. > :00:31.to have confidence in your own ability to do that.

:00:32. > :00:33.If you don't, then you shouldn't be here.

:00:34. > :00:35.We've had exclusive access to a firearms training

:00:36. > :00:36.academy in Cheshire following police recruits.

:00:37. > :00:40.Watch the full report in the next few minutes.

:00:41. > :00:43.Also on the programme, Theresa May has won her battle

:00:44. > :00:45.in parliament on Brexit, but now she's got potential Scottish

:00:46. > :01:11.We'll get reaction from a group of voters from right across the UK.

:01:12. > :01:21.Hello, everybody, welcome back to my channel. I am joined by my favourite

:01:22. > :01:23.present in the world. If I get this, you owe me a fiver.

:01:24. > :01:28.As the popularity of vlogging soars we'll hear how organisers of a club

:01:29. > :01:32.teaching kids how to be a successful vlogger say they've been blown away

:01:33. > :01:45.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

:01:46. > :01:47.Throughout the morning the latest news and developing stories.

:01:48. > :01:49.A little later in the programme we'll bring

:01:50. > :01:54.with the food writer and blogger Jack Monroe who's just won a libel

:01:55. > :01:58.case against Mail online columnist Katie Hopkins.

:01:59. > :02:01.Monroe says the case led to her experiencing a "complete

:02:02. > :02:07.Hear that full interview after 10 this morning.

:02:08. > :02:14.Our top story today: The bill giving the Government the power to trigger

:02:15. > :02:16.the formal process of leaving the European Union,

:02:17. > :02:18.has cleared its final hurdle in Parliament,

:02:19. > :02:23.Meanwhile, Nicola Sturgeon has said she wants to hold a second

:02:24. > :02:24.referendum on Scottish independence, before the process

:02:25. > :02:37.Will this call for a second independence referendum in Scotland

:02:38. > :02:44.mess up Theresa May's timetable when it comes to the Brexit negotiations?

:02:45. > :02:48.It is certainly a headache and for that reason the overwhelming view is

:02:49. > :02:52.Theresa May were absolutely not want to consider a Scottish independence

:02:53. > :02:57.referendum while she is having to grapple with Brexit. She does not

:02:58. > :03:00.want to be fighting on two France at the same time, it would be

:03:01. > :03:06.politically and extraordinarily difficult feat to pull off. The

:03:07. > :03:10.expectation is any final decision on Scottish independence and a

:03:11. > :03:14.referendum may be put off until safely after the Brexit negotiations

:03:15. > :03:20.are completed and the UK has left the EU. As for Brexit itself,

:03:21. > :03:27.Theresa May received a significant boost last night by the fact that

:03:28. > :03:32.Parliament passed really without much opposition her bill triggering

:03:33. > :03:35.the start of the process. I counted only nine Tory MPs actually

:03:36. > :03:40.rebelling last night. The House of Lords pretty much through in the

:03:41. > :03:45.towel straightaway, so where we are, despite all the threats of endless

:03:46. > :03:49.amendments and getting bogged down in the House of Lords, Theresa May

:03:50. > :03:56.has emerged with her bill not amended and to her timetable.

:03:57. > :04:01.Frankly she conceded remarkably little beyond the verbal assurance

:04:02. > :04:05.there will be a vote in two years' time. On the independence referendum

:04:06. > :04:08.Theresa May will have to give permission for that to happen in

:04:09. > :04:15.Scotland, otherwise it will really annoy people. Well, the bottom line

:04:16. > :04:21.is Theresa May has control of the process. In other words, she is the

:04:22. > :04:25.one who will decide if and when a Scottish independence referendum

:04:26. > :04:28.takes place. The clear signals we are getting at Westminster is the

:04:29. > :04:34.government want to play this long, they want to take the steam out of

:04:35. > :04:39.Nicola Sturgeon's campaign and they want to see the momentum for

:04:40. > :04:44.Scottish independence slow up. Yes, absolutely not having any referendum

:04:45. > :04:48.before Brexit, but even after Brexit the government may seek to push it

:04:49. > :04:52.down the line. There have been some suggestions that may be the

:04:53. > :04:58.government could say, let's see if the SNP can win another mandate for

:04:59. > :05:02.an independence referendum in the Scottish Parliamentary elections in

:05:03. > :05:07.2021. The thinking is all the time they wanted take some of the head of

:05:08. > :05:13.steam out of Nicola Sturgeon's campaign and slow down the rush and

:05:14. > :05:17.demand for a second referendum. We will talk to a group of voters right

:05:18. > :05:22.across the UK in the next hour or so and your views are very welcome.

:05:23. > :05:24.Joanna is in the BBC newsroom with a summary

:05:25. > :05:28.A former prison employee, who was convicted of smuggling

:05:29. > :05:30.phones for inmates, has claimed he was never searched at work.

:05:31. > :05:34.The man, who worked at Stocken jail in Rutland, made the claim

:05:35. > :05:36.in a documentary about prison corruption for BBC Radio Four.

:05:37. > :05:38.The Ministry of Justice said the vast majority of prison staff

:05:39. > :05:42.And we'll have more on that story at 10.45.

:05:43. > :05:49.One crew member has been found after an Irish Coast Guard

:05:50. > :05:51.helicopter with four on board went missing off

:05:52. > :05:55.Those on board lost contact at about 1AM on this morning.

:05:56. > :05:58.A search is under way about six miles to the west

:05:59. > :06:02.The aircraft was providing cover for another coastguard helicopter

:06:03. > :06:07.Turkey has severed all high-level contacts with the Dutch government

:06:08. > :06:09.in an escalation of an ongoing row between the two countries.

:06:10. > :06:12.Turkey has also told the Dutch ambassador to Ankara that he can't

:06:13. > :06:19.It comes after Turkish ministers were banned

:06:20. > :06:21.from speaking at Dutch rallies, organised in Rotterdam to gain

:06:22. > :06:24.support for President Erdogan in a referendum next month.

:06:25. > :06:26.Children become less active at an earlier age

:06:27. > :06:30.than previously thought, according to new research.

:06:31. > :06:32.It was widely believed that physical exercise started

:06:33. > :06:37.But a study, carried out over eight years in the north-east of England,

:06:38. > :06:39.showed that activity levels begin to drop among seven year olds,

:06:40. > :06:45.Children are supposed to be active for an hour every day,

:06:46. > :06:47.but most youngsters don't get enough exercise, and this study suggests

:06:48. > :06:54.More than 400 children from Gateshead wore an activity

:06:55. > :06:58.Their exercise levels were measured at the ages

:06:59. > :07:04.Physical activity dropped off from the age of seven

:07:05. > :07:12.The orthodox view is that this adolescent decline is not only

:07:13. > :07:14.something which happens at adolescence, so it

:07:15. > :07:17.coincides with puberty or with transition to high school,

:07:18. > :07:21.but also it is something that particularly affects girls.

:07:22. > :07:29.And our study shows that that is clearly not the case.

:07:30. > :07:31.I think what that means in terms of public health programmes

:07:32. > :07:33.is programmes and policies and practices all have

:07:34. > :07:36.to focus much earlier, probably around about the time

:07:37. > :07:39.Too much time spent looking at screens and sitting down

:07:40. > :07:41.is storing up health problems for the future, according

:07:42. > :07:47.It's campaigning to try and change the fact that one in five children

:07:48. > :07:54.Smart phones and fitness trackers are being targeted by criminals

:07:55. > :07:56.to hold people to ransom over personal data, according

:07:57. > :08:00.The joint report from The National Crime Agency

:08:01. > :08:02.and the new National Cyber Security Centre says digital crime

:08:03. > :08:08.is becoming more aggressive, with a growing risk to business.

:08:09. > :08:11.A new after school vlogging club says it's been "blown away"

:08:12. > :08:22.by demand for its classes after it opened last month.

:08:23. > :08:29.It says its sessions for the under 11 is has been very popular.

:08:30. > :08:31.But the academy near Exeter says it's not all about creating

:08:32. > :08:33.the next YouTube star, but encouraging creativity,

:08:34. > :08:37.And we'll be finding out more about those classes

:08:38. > :08:48.In 2014 changes to the law strengthened protection against

:08:49. > :08:52.unfair treatment, but a report by a number of charities claims the

:08:53. > :08:55.reforms have only had minimal impact. The government intends to

:08:56. > :08:59.publish a review of how it is working, but aggressive or action is

:09:00. > :09:02.working, but aggressive or action is not acceptable.

:09:03. > :09:05.The result of a ballot on whether to admit women as members

:09:06. > :09:08.of the world's oldest golf club will be announced later this morning.

:09:09. > :09:11.It's the second vote on the issue at Muirfield in East Lothian.

:09:12. > :09:13.Motions require two-thirds of its eligible voters to back the move.

:09:14. > :09:17.Only 64% backed the move at the last vote.

:09:18. > :09:20.A state of emergency has been declared in New York as the city

:09:21. > :09:24.Blizzard conditions are expected across the north-east United States,

:09:25. > :09:27.with forecasters predicting over half a metre of snow in some areas.

:09:28. > :09:29.The weather conditions have caused the first meeting

:09:30. > :09:31.between President Trump and the German Chancellor Angela

:09:32. > :09:38.The mayor of New York has called on people to stay indoors.

:09:39. > :09:41.Stay off the streets for your own good, for your own safety,

:09:42. > :09:44.but to help the sanitation department keep the streets clear.

:09:45. > :09:48.If you must go out, do so for as limited

:09:49. > :09:59.If you need to travel, use mass transit if at all possible,

:10:00. > :10:04.but the best thing to do is stay in if you can stay in.

:10:05. > :10:12.There are also some incredible sites. This is on the shores of Lake

:10:13. > :10:17.on Taree. After a weekend of freezing wind and high waves this is

:10:18. > :10:25.what one has looked like. It is a summer has, so it should have thawed

:10:26. > :10:31.out before their next holiday. Imagine owning a summer house. We

:10:32. > :10:36.have got a film for you in the next few minutes which is instructive. It

:10:37. > :10:40.is incredible access to young police recruits going through firearms

:10:41. > :10:44.training. Our home affairs correspondent has had access over a

:10:45. > :10:50.period of months. You watch that in the next few minutes. Anthony on

:10:51. > :10:54.Facebook says many believe we have the best police force in the world

:10:55. > :10:58.and they do not need to be armed. Personally I believe we have the

:10:59. > :11:07.right ratio of armed and unarmed officers in this country. Please get

:11:08. > :11:10.in touch with us. Sport now with John and we are talking about

:11:11. > :11:14.women's football because the FA have announced plans to increase

:11:15. > :11:19.participation in the women's game. They have made quite a statement.

:11:20. > :11:22.They have said they have let the women's game down following the way

:11:23. > :11:26.in which it was marginalised in the early part of the last century and

:11:27. > :11:30.they want to try and double the numbers of women and girls playing

:11:31. > :11:35.the game by 2020, so they have announced a strategy aimed at

:11:36. > :11:39.improving coaching and improving pathways for younger players to make

:11:40. > :11:43.it through to the top, as well as trying to improve the facilities and

:11:44. > :11:49.coaching as well. Let's hear from the chief executive of the FA. One

:11:50. > :11:55.of the jobs of the FA is to promote football in the country, whether

:11:56. > :11:59.small sided or 11 sided. It is such a great spot for everyone and

:12:00. > :12:04.frankly half the population, female, have not had as much attention as

:12:05. > :12:09.they might. That has changed in recent years, but today is about

:12:10. > :12:11.saying, let's be ambitious, let's doubled the number of girls who are

:12:12. > :12:17.playing and make it a mainstream sport. It is hoped that will see a

:12:18. > :12:22.huge improvement in the number of girls and women playing again. Why

:12:23. > :12:27.has the women's game be so overshadowed by the men's? In the

:12:28. > :12:30.early part of the last century, certainly during the First World

:12:31. > :12:36.War, the women's game was popular. They sold out grounds and there was

:12:37. > :12:41.a huge amount of interest. But they FA made the decision in 1921 to ban

:12:42. > :12:46.the playing of women's games at all the grounds for 20 years which

:12:47. > :12:49.completely stunted the game. That changed in the 1960s with the

:12:50. > :12:55.women's FA and the women's FA Cup and that boosted the numbers of

:12:56. > :12:59.women playing once again. Then we saw the it was the fastest growing

:13:00. > :13:04.sport in 2005 and we saw the emergence of the women's super

:13:05. > :13:08.league which was launched in 2011. It is hoped now with this

:13:09. > :13:13.implementation of the new plan it would see that addressed and the

:13:14. > :13:18.game continuing to grow once again. What with the FA be expecting to

:13:19. > :13:24.come out of this? They would like to see the women's team win the World

:13:25. > :13:28.Cup by 2023. That is a possibility. Their manager says they could win a

:13:29. > :13:32.major tournament earlier than that and they are targeting the European

:13:33. > :13:37.Championships this year. They also want to host a major tournament.

:13:38. > :13:40.That would see an interest within the game and boost participation.

:13:41. > :13:44.The women's team are already exceeding the men's team. They

:13:45. > :13:50.finished third in the World Cup in 2015. The results are certainly

:13:51. > :13:52.there and it is expected they will win a World Cup or a major

:13:53. > :13:59.tournament. It has been interesting to know that Gareth Southgate, the

:14:00. > :14:01.manager of the England men's national team has been working

:14:02. > :14:08.alongside the manager of the women's team. It is felt the progress in the

:14:09. > :14:14.women's game is exceeding the men's and this is recognition for that.

:14:15. > :14:20.As the national debate continues over whether police officers should

:14:21. > :14:22.be more routinely armed, we've had exclusive access

:14:23. > :14:29.to a firearms training centre in Cheshire, where officers

:14:30. > :14:33.It's an intensive three-month course with many officers

:14:34. > :14:39.By the end of the year, out of a total of 130,000 police

:14:40. > :14:42.officers in England and Wales, around 7,500 are firearms officers,

:14:43. > :14:45.a record number aimed at protecting the public from terrorism.

:14:46. > :14:55.Over the next 15 minutes we'll show you the reality of what it's

:14:56. > :14:57.like to undergo training, how officers are taught

:14:58. > :14:59.to make split-second life-or-death decisions,

:15:00. > :15:02.and later in the programme we'll hear from those who worry we already

:15:03. > :15:06.The report contains realistic training exercises featuring hostage

:15:07. > :15:08.scenarios, and you will hear repeated sound of gun shots.

:15:09. > :15:11.If you think you may find it upsetting, you may want to look away

:15:12. > :15:16.We wanted to bring you this report to try and give

:15:17. > :15:20.an insight into the kind of training officers undergo.

:15:21. > :15:23.The UK will soon have more armed police than ever before, but will

:15:24. > :15:27.Over three months, we've witnessed recruits

:15:28. > :15:35.Armed police, put your hands on the steering wheel.

:15:36. > :15:38.Tested to see if they were capable of carrying a lethal weapon,

:15:39. > :15:40.mentally and physically ready to walk into danger.

:15:41. > :15:43.Have these recruits got what it takes...

:15:44. > :15:45...to graduate from the firearms training

:15:46. > :15:56.I am the exercise conducting officer for this training event and

:15:57. > :15:58.will be in charge of training site safety.

:15:59. > :16:03.All students, observers and instructors must obey

:16:04. > :16:05.my instructions irrespective of rank or role.

:16:06. > :16:10.On hearing a long whistle blast or the word of command, "stop,

:16:11. > :16:12.stop, stop" all students will stop what they're doing

:16:13. > :16:20.In case of an incident resulting in injury all

:16:21. > :16:26.activities will cease immediately and all weapons will be made safe.

:16:27. > :16:28.All students will wear appropriate PPE commensurate with the training.

:16:29. > :16:31.ARV kit, ear and eye protection, forced issue boots and helmets.

:16:32. > :16:33.All loading and unloading of weapons will take place in the

:16:34. > :16:40.Weapon safety rules must be complied with.

:16:41. > :16:42.There are no officer down drills for today's

:16:43. > :16:47.training, so any officer down will be treated as a genuine injury.

:16:48. > :16:48.Is anyone suffering from the effects of

:16:49. > :16:51.alcohol, taken any medication or have any injury or problem that may

:16:52. > :17:03.It's week five of training at Cheshire Constabulary's firearms

:17:04. > :17:10.Recruits have learned how to handle a gun,

:17:11. > :17:13.now they need to learn when and where to use it.

:17:14. > :17:17.All they have to do is approach each room in this

:17:18. > :17:20.abandoned school and prove they can see the imaginary bad guys without

:17:21. > :17:23.It's just a straightforward search, has anybody

:17:24. > :17:37.Each individual officer has a role and

:17:38. > :17:40.they actually have a role to perform when they are at the door.

:17:41. > :17:42.So what we are trying to get them to do is

:17:43. > :17:46.The roles are so fluent, so they can form up on one

:17:47. > :17:51.door, deal with that specific threat area, OK,

:17:52. > :17:53.but when they come out and

:17:54. > :17:56.they form up at the next threat, they will be in a completely

:17:57. > :18:09.As the day progresses, the instructors place

:18:10. > :18:11.cardboard cutout suspects around the school.

:18:12. > :18:37.And how to apprehend anyone left standing.

:18:38. > :18:51.No need for you to be pointing your gun here

:18:52. > :18:52.now is there, this is

:18:53. > :18:56.They repeat the exercises, but it's hard to remember

:18:57. > :18:59.The recruits are under intense pressure and making

:19:00. > :19:03.That goes to safe before it goes down, OK?

:19:04. > :19:10.Martin, one of the trainees makes a serious error in

:19:11. > :19:17.You know yourselves when that fire selector

:19:18. > :19:20.should go to safe and when it should go to fire.

:19:21. > :19:24.And it shouldn't be, Martin, obviously down there.

:19:25. > :19:27.You went to walk, took a couple of paces

:19:28. > :19:35.The bullet magazine clatters out of that officer's gun

:19:36. > :19:39.Kelly's magazine fell out in the previous

:19:40. > :19:44.Her magazine and then basically we've sort of said, check

:19:45. > :19:48.She's replaced her magazine then she's come out and gone into

:19:49. > :19:53.And the target she's basically been faced with is a gun

:19:54. > :19:59.And in that circumstances, because of the

:20:00. > :20:01.mistake back there where the magazine got dropped,

:20:02. > :20:07.It's easily the hardest thing I've ever had to do, mentally and

:20:08. > :20:13.But, I can't fault it, I'm really enjoying it.

:20:14. > :20:16.It's just a lot to take in and a lot to

:20:17. > :20:18.remember, so just exhausting, really.

:20:19. > :20:22.I just wanted to challenge myself, wanted to do something new.

:20:23. > :20:25.Eight, four second exposures and when the target faces,

:20:26. > :20:32.I couldn't go away from policing now.

:20:33. > :20:43.It is about putting your life on the line, that's what I want

:20:44. > :20:46.to do and I get a massive sense of achievement

:20:47. > :20:52.Sometimes I go home from here of any evening and you see

:20:53. > :20:54.what's going on in the news and you think,

:20:55. > :20:55.in a few months' time, if I

:20:56. > :21:01.pass this course, that could be me going out to that job.

:21:02. > :21:05.First on the scene, having to discharge a weapon.

:21:06. > :21:08.My mum and dad were a bit apprehensive at first, but trying to

:21:09. > :21:13.explain to them, obviously the training we get,

:21:14. > :21:15.the weapons that we are carrying, actually I am going

:21:16. > :21:19.to be more protected than I am now as a regular officer out on the

:21:20. > :21:24.OK, slight angle, purely because of the angles of the shield.

:21:25. > :21:29.My friends, I think they all love the fact I'm doing

:21:30. > :21:35.They call me Lara Croft and all sorts, but everyone is

:21:36. > :21:55.Put your hands on the steering wheel.

:21:56. > :22:16.We are two months in and 12 trainees are left.

:22:17. > :22:18.Put the drink down, show me your hands.

:22:19. > :22:22.Now they've got to show they can apprehend armed suspects on the

:22:23. > :22:26.Turned the engine of using one of your hands.

:22:27. > :22:28.This scenario is typical of a great deal of armed

:22:29. > :22:31.Emotionally or mentally distressed suspects, who are a

:22:32. > :22:36.How the trainees choose to respond is crucial.

:22:37. > :22:41.They need to know when to use words rather than bullets.

:22:42. > :22:46.Put the gun onto the floor and let's talk.

:22:47. > :22:53.Put the gun on the floor and we'll treat you with the respect you

:22:54. > :22:54.deserve, but put it on the floor please.

:22:55. > :23:02.In that case, put it on the bonnet of my car and then step

:23:03. > :23:09.Walked towards me, walked towards me.

:23:10. > :23:13.Stop there, Sean, put your hands on your head for me.

:23:14. > :23:15.Put your hands on your head and interlock your fingers.

:23:16. > :23:30.OK, stay where you are, try and keep your hands on the top of

:23:31. > :23:35.Will keep your gun safe, don't worry.

:23:36. > :23:44.Now it's time to reset the session and

:23:45. > :23:59.Armed police, put your hands on the steering wheel.

:24:00. > :24:09.This time the suspect is far more volatile.

:24:10. > :24:11.If I put gun down, will you shoot me?

:24:12. > :24:23.The officers have a split second to make a tough call.

:24:24. > :24:29.Ellie, the officer in the car pulled the

:24:30. > :24:45.This of course is just a simulation and the instructors are

:24:46. > :24:47.concerned some of the team, including Ellie on thinking fast

:24:48. > :24:51.Ellie and Matt, very slow on the call of the shotgun.

:24:52. > :24:53.I was looking at the shotgun, it was out

:24:54. > :24:58.Matt, you were stood looking at it, you must have been able to

:24:59. > :25:02.Throughout the exercises, all of the trainees are

:25:03. > :25:06.They've got to show Steve that the tactics are

:25:07. > :25:10.We look at the vehicle, dominate the vehicle,

:25:11. > :25:12.dominate the occupants of the vehicle.

:25:13. > :25:14.And then we look at controlling the vehicle, driver,

:25:15. > :25:19.Driver take the keys out of the vehicle.

:25:20. > :25:22.And at the end of a gruelling week, Ellie and one other officer fail to

:25:23. > :25:34.Put your hands on the window where I can see them.

:25:35. > :25:39.You can be called to deal with anything at any time,

:25:40. > :25:41.the only difference between a fire officer

:25:42. > :25:42.and a normal fire officer is

:25:43. > :25:47.And from a personal point of view, I enjoyed dealing with the most

:25:48. > :25:52.I tried two years ago and I was unsuccessful, so I've tried to

:25:53. > :25:54.develop since then and I've given it another go now.

:25:55. > :25:57.I think you've got to have a very cool, level head.

:25:58. > :26:00.But also you've got to be able to think

:26:01. > :26:03.clearly and also think really quickly and if you can't do that

:26:04. > :26:06.In terms of getting through the course,

:26:07. > :26:22.new goal to be able to pick up things on a daily basis.

:26:23. > :26:25.It's the final week and now the hardest challenge.

:26:26. > :26:28.Any cop who's armed, must also have the skills to save a life.

:26:29. > :26:29.The recruits are at an emergency services training

:26:30. > :26:34.They have been training on a simulated casualty

:26:35. > :26:54.This piece of equipment allows us to simulate injuries on patients

:26:55. > :27:06.So they are actually connected up to computers now.

:27:07. > :27:08.When you watch this type of equipment being used

:27:09. > :27:11.on your students, you'll see how it actually draws them

:27:12. > :27:16.Guys, can we get the snips out straightaway to get

:27:17. > :27:23.While his head is off the floor, can you get me that strap

:27:24. > :27:39.After three long months, the trainees now need

:27:40. > :27:59.Armed police, come and open the front door.

:28:00. > :28:04.Hostages, an armed man, it's not going to end well.

:28:05. > :28:07.The gunman hiding in the house, shoots the first hostage.

:28:08. > :28:09.He's being played by Dave, the instructor.

:28:10. > :28:13.They not only have to think tactical, they've got

:28:14. > :28:27.We are asking you to make the decision, to eliminate a threat

:28:28. > :28:36.And then at the end of that, we are asking you to preserve life.

:28:37. > :28:39.The average person doesn't have the ability to kill,

:28:40. > :28:42.and then be accountable in a court of law for their actions.

:28:43. > :29:02.The second hostage escapes and despite having shot the suspect,

:29:03. > :29:06.the team must now try to save his life as well has his victim.

:29:07. > :29:22.And there's one final surprise waiting inside.

:29:23. > :29:38.Starting CPR, can someone carry on with the survey?

:29:39. > :29:45.End ex, the call to finish the exercise.

:29:46. > :29:50.I felt very comfortable, I could hear you shouting

:29:51. > :29:54.commands to each other, so as a patient I can

:29:55. > :29:56.hear you and I think, you know what, I'm in good,

:29:57. > :30:00.They looked after me all the way to out.

:30:01. > :30:06.The remaining ten recruits now have a nervous wait to find

:30:07. > :30:11.I think it's reasonable that officers should be armed

:30:12. > :30:13.because of the threat that posed against them now.

:30:14. > :30:15.It doesn't scare me that more officers, I think

:30:16. > :30:18.They are going in the right direction.

:30:19. > :30:22.In the worst case scenario you could end up in a situation

:30:23. > :30:26.Yes you could, that's why it all comes down

:30:27. > :30:28.to your decision-making, that's why it's so crucial.

:30:29. > :30:34.And I think you've got to have confidence in your

:30:35. > :30:37.If you don't, then you shouldn't be here.

:30:38. > :30:40.Up to a third of those who apply fail the training school.

:30:41. > :30:43.This time, the final ten graduate, eight men and two women.

:30:44. > :30:45.Today, they are all qualified to carry guns and may soon be

:30:46. > :30:58.And after 10 we'll hear from people who think firearms officers aren't

:30:59. > :31:04.Keen to hear your thoughts as always.

:31:05. > :31:11.Jan says, I believe our peas need to be armed, but I would not like to

:31:12. > :31:15.see them armed all the time. Lesley said I strongly believe the police

:31:16. > :31:22.should be routinely armed, we have to move with the times, the UK is

:31:23. > :31:26.violent place. This text from somebody who is anonymous, guns do

:31:27. > :31:29.not cause problems, it is the people who carry them who are important and

:31:30. > :31:34.the police are good about vetting their own, even better than the

:31:35. > :31:39.army. People think carrying a gun is fun, it is not. The top brass will

:31:40. > :31:44.not back you and the risk is high if you get it wrong. The officers who

:31:45. > :31:50.do it need a medal and support. They do it because we need it. This is a

:31:51. > :31:54.tweet from Jamie. I am reassured that if I get taken hostage, the

:31:55. > :32:00.magazine will fall out of the gun. All that is needed now is the Naked

:32:01. > :32:06.More discussion to come on that after ten.

:32:07. > :32:08.Drugs are fuelling violence in prisons across the country.

:32:09. > :32:10.We'll be hearing how corruption among prison staff

:32:11. > :32:16.A school is blown away by demand for its new after

:32:17. > :32:28.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:32:29. > :32:34.Theresa May seems on course to reject Nicola Sturgeon's request to

:32:35. > :32:38.hold a second referendum on Scottish independence before the process of

:32:39. > :32:42.Brexit is complete. Scotland's First Minister announced she would seek

:32:43. > :32:49.permission for the vote to be held between autumn next year and the

:32:50. > :32:53.spring of 2019. The power to trigger Brexit cleared its final hurdle in

:32:54. > :32:56.Parliament and will become law. The House of Lords voted in favour of

:32:57. > :33:00.A former prison employee, who was convicted of smuggling

:33:01. > :33:02.phones for inmates, has claimed he was never searched at work.

:33:03. > :33:07.in Rutland, made the claim in a documentary about prison

:33:08. > :33:12.The Ministry of Justice said the vast majority of prison staff

:33:13. > :33:20.One crew member has been found after an Irish Coast Guard

:33:21. > :33:21.helicopter with four on board went missing off

:33:22. > :33:32.Those on board lost contact at about 1AM on this morning.

:33:33. > :33:34.A search is under way about six miles to the west

:33:35. > :33:38.The aircraft was providing cover for another coastguard helicopter

:33:39. > :33:48.Charities say they are continuing to see widespread problems with the

:33:49. > :33:52.behaviour of bailiffs towards vulnerable people in difficulty

:33:53. > :33:56.despite a crackdown. In 2014 changes to the law strengthened protection

:33:57. > :34:03.against unfair treatment, but there are claims the reforms have only had

:34:04. > :34:10.minimal impact. The government says aggressive enforcement action is not

:34:11. > :34:15.acceptable. A state of emergency has been declared in New York as the

:34:16. > :34:18.city faces a major snowstorm. Blizzard conditions are expected

:34:19. > :34:22.across the North East with forecasters expecting half a metre

:34:23. > :34:26.of snow in some areas. The weather conditions have caused the first

:34:27. > :34:32.meeting between President Donald Trump and Angela Merkel to be

:34:33. > :34:36.postponed. There are some incredible sights as well, though, such as this

:34:37. > :34:42.house in upstate New York which has been completely encased in ice. It

:34:43. > :34:46.is on the shores of Lake Ontario and after a week of freezing winds and

:34:47. > :34:54.eyes this is what it looks like. It is used as a summer house, so it

:34:55. > :34:59.will thaw out before then! News just in, the European Union's top court

:35:00. > :35:04.has ruled that employers may ban staff from wearing visible religious

:35:05. > :35:09.symbols at work. It was a joint judgment in the cases of two women

:35:10. > :35:13.in France and Belgium who were sacked for refusing to remove their

:35:14. > :35:17.headscarves. An internal company rule prohibiting the wearing of any

:35:18. > :35:26.religious sign was not discriminatory. This is just in as

:35:27. > :35:31.well. It is to do with the Bank of England Deputy Governor, Charlotte

:35:32. > :35:36.Hogg. The Treasury Select Committee have just said that her professional

:35:37. > :35:40.competence falls short of the standard required to fulfil her role

:35:41. > :35:43.as Bank of England Deputy Governor. We will bring you more on that and

:35:44. > :35:49.the reasons behind that in the next half an hour.

:35:50. > :35:57.Chelsea knocked out Manchester United to reach the semifinals of

:35:58. > :36:00.the FA Cup. There was a sending off for Parreira for a second yellow

:36:01. > :36:08.card and then there was a great goal to win it. A little bit of afters as

:36:09. > :36:12.well between the two managers. Jose Mourinho received plenty of

:36:13. > :36:16.criticism from the fans on the touchline. The managers had to be

:36:17. > :36:22.separated. The double Olympic gold medallist join arousal as announced

:36:23. > :36:27.her retirement from cycling. She won five world titles and nobody will

:36:28. > :36:32.forget the gold medals she won in London, 2012 and in Rio in the

:36:33. > :36:36.summer. Women are to be admitted to Muirfield golf club, we will get the

:36:37. > :36:43.result of a second ballot and it is likely to be a yes vote which means

:36:44. > :36:48.the club could host the open championship. Birmingham and

:36:49. > :36:53.Liverpool have expressed an interest in staging the Commonwealth Games in

:36:54. > :36:56.2022. They were supposed to be held in Durban, but financial

:36:57. > :37:00.difficulties that means the games Federation is looking for a new host

:37:01. > :37:08.city. It could be their loss, but our game. We'll Theresa May reject

:37:09. > :37:11.completely Nicola Sturgeon's request to hold a second referendum on

:37:12. > :37:15.Scottish independence before the process of Brexit is complete?

:37:16. > :37:18.The Prime Minister says it would be divisive and she's accused

:37:19. > :37:20.Scotland's First Minister of playing political games.

:37:21. > :37:22.It comes as the bill giving the Westminster government the power

:37:23. > :37:24.to trigger Brexit has cleared its final hurdle

:37:25. > :37:28.in parliament and will now become law, meaning the infamous Article 50

:37:29. > :37:31.could be triggered in the coming days and weeks.

:37:32. > :37:47.The British people have spoken and the answer is, we're out.

:37:48. > :37:51.The UK is about to take its next big step towards Brexit.

:37:52. > :37:55.This will happen when Prime Minister Theresa May triggers Article 50,

:37:56. > :37:57.which means she will start the formal process of the UK

:37:58. > :38:08.Negotiations with the EU will begin shortly after.

:38:09. > :38:13.Nope, nada, nothing will change today, tomorrow next

:38:14. > :38:18.The UK will remain a member of the EU for up to two years

:38:19. > :38:22.EU laws and rules, including the freedom

:38:23. > :38:29.Very long and very complex negotiations will take place

:38:30. > :38:35.Think of it like an ongoing divorce case where the two sides

:38:36. > :38:37.will discuss rights for Brits living abroad, cross-border security

:38:38. > :38:48.The UK is currently in the European single market, a system designed

:38:49. > :38:52.to help businesses by removing barriers to trade.

:38:53. > :38:56.Theresa May however, wants to exit this system.

:38:57. > :38:59.She says being part of it would mean the UK could not

:39:00. > :39:04.Instead, she wants to enter what's known as a customs union

:39:05. > :39:07.with the EU, a different kind of trade agreement.

:39:08. > :39:19.There's a two-year limit for negotiations to be completed,

:39:20. > :39:22.although this can be extended, but only if all other EU

:39:23. > :39:28.If no agreement is reached in time, the UK will

:39:29. > :39:37.According to Lord Kerr, the man who wrote Article 50, yes it could.

:39:38. > :39:44.One thing we do know, it's all going to take a very long

:39:45. > :39:52.time until the divorce officially happens.

:39:53. > :39:59.We are going to talk about all those issues in a moment. We have breaking

:40:00. > :40:04.news about the Ukip owner Aaron Banks. He said he had been suspended

:40:05. > :40:11.from Ukip. He tweets, I understand why my membership has been

:40:12. > :40:23.suspended. Interesting times. That is possibly an understatement. More

:40:24. > :40:26.reaction to come on that no doubt. We are going to take a snapshot of

:40:27. > :40:29.use from right around the UK. Four people supporting Brexit

:40:30. > :40:32.are Beverly Stein, a Ukip voter. Jack Lewy, a politics student

:40:33. > :40:35.who initially wanted to remain And Euan Blockley who is pro-leave

:40:36. > :40:45.and anti-Scottish independence. Four people who are worried

:40:46. > :40:48.about leaving the UK are Asma Butt, a recent graduate, Seyi Awikodo,

:40:49. > :40:53.who works in education, Joanna Zawadkza who is originally

:40:54. > :40:57.from Poland and is worried about her future, and Stefanie Muir,

:40:58. > :41:02.who voted remain and will vote Also with us is Lord Nigel Lawson,

:41:03. > :41:26.a former Conservative Chancellor Can Theresa May pull both these

:41:27. > :41:31.negotiations of successfully? I hope everything will work out well and it

:41:32. > :41:34.probably will, but one thing at a time. Theresa May is right, let's

:41:35. > :41:39.get Brexit has done and dusted and then we will face the issue of

:41:40. > :41:43.another Scottish independence referendum, which, incidentally, in

:41:44. > :41:45.the opinion polls show the great majority that the Scottish people do

:41:46. > :41:51.not want. I have not introduced you! Also with us is Lord Nigel Lawson,

:41:52. > :41:54.a former Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer who supports

:41:55. > :41:56.leaving the European Union, and James McGrory, co-Executive

:41:57. > :42:08.Director of Open Britain Do you think she is thinking she has

:42:09. > :42:15.to go but the referendum otherwise it will annoy people in Scotland? It

:42:16. > :42:19.might well be unwise to say no, but what is certainly crazy would be to

:42:20. > :42:25.get the two things mixed up together. It is one thing at a time.

:42:26. > :42:29.It is only three years, less than three years, since we had the last

:42:30. > :42:33.referendum. Let's get Brexit sorted out as well as we can, have it done

:42:34. > :42:40.and dusted and then we will address the Scottish issue. Stefanie, what

:42:41. > :42:49.do you think of that? Separate exit and then possibly have an

:42:50. > :42:53.independence referendum? Time is a privilege and it is a privilege we

:42:54. > :42:58.do not have in Scotland. The fact we are not getting invited into the

:42:59. > :43:08.discussions on Brexit is is a very democratic problem. Independence is

:43:09. > :43:14.probably a last resort. This is a retaliation to being cut out. I do

:43:15. > :43:20.not think there is enough time to wait. If there was an interest in

:43:21. > :43:25.preserving the union, it would have been done so earlier instead of

:43:26. > :43:30.being pushed to the limit. There is not enough time to wait. Let's say

:43:31. > :43:34.there is another second referendum on independence, how would voters in

:43:35. > :43:40.Scotland be able to compare Brexit deal with an independent future if

:43:41. > :43:44.the deal was not completed? That is the problem with a lot of things up

:43:45. > :43:49.in the air at the moment. We do not have a lot of certainty so we are

:43:50. > :43:53.trying to find our feet in a place that does not have much of a

:43:54. > :43:57.foundation. I am not sure how that would work out or how the public

:43:58. > :44:00.would respond, but it is the only way to deal with the fact that

:44:01. > :44:08.Scotland is not getting much of a voice at all at the moment. Is that

:44:09. > :44:12.right? Of course it is not right, let's be completely honest here. The

:44:13. > :44:16.devolved administrations have had a voice in the negotiations. Nicola

:44:17. > :44:21.Sturgeon has been down to Downing Street to speak to Theresa May, said

:44:22. > :44:24.the idea there has not been any conversation is preposterous. But

:44:25. > :44:30.what is the most important thing in Scotland right now is the idea that

:44:31. > :44:33.the Scottish people, as Lord Lawson said recently, the fact that there

:44:34. > :44:38.is not an appetite for a second independence referendum and the idea

:44:39. > :44:42.we will push Scotland is angering more Scots. I am bringing you

:44:43. > :44:46.breaking news to do with the Deputy Governor of the Bank of England. She

:44:47. > :44:49.has just resigned. Her name is Charlotte Hogg. She has only

:44:50. > :44:56.recently been appointed to this role. She has just resigned from her

:44:57. > :45:00.post. She was the deputy governor of the Bank of England. The Treasury

:45:01. > :45:03.Select Committee has said that her professional competence falls short

:45:04. > :45:09.of the standards required to fulfil that role. It comes a few weeks

:45:10. > :45:12.after she apologised to the Treasury Select Committee for not formally

:45:13. > :45:16.disclosing that her brother worked at Barclays and was the Barclays

:45:17. > :45:21.group strategy director would could conflict with her work on a

:45:22. > :45:26.particular committee. She had not declared a family link on a number

:45:27. > :45:30.of occasions since joining the bank in 2013. The deputy governor of the

:45:31. > :45:33.Bank of England has resigned in the last few seconds after being

:45:34. > :45:36.criticised by the Treasury Select Committee for not revealing that her

:45:37. > :45:37.brother worked at Barclays which could have been a conflict of

:45:38. > :46:05.interest. The chairman of the committee was my

:46:06. > :46:12.advisor and he and his committee have reached this conclusion and I

:46:13. > :46:21.believe it was the right one. Following recent events, Charlotte

:46:22. > :46:29.had offered her resignation. Mark Carney said he deeply regrets that

:46:30. > :46:35.she has chosen to resign. You are businessmen, wanted to remain in the

:46:36. > :46:44.EU. What do you think about the next couple of years? I would have

:46:45. > :46:47.preferred certainty but we've never had it whether we were in the EU or

:46:48. > :47:01.not. That is not necessarily the fault. We have to deal with what

:47:02. > :47:05.we've got and be optimistic. There is going to be so much uncertainty.

:47:06. > :47:18.We always have lived in uncertain times. We are just going to have an

:47:19. > :47:24.optimistic attitude. Jude she stop this? Now because it is the end of

:47:25. > :47:28.the union, if it is not then it will be another three years after that.

:47:29. > :47:32.If you want the end of the union grant a referendum. Wasn't it

:47:33. > :47:38.foreseen by David Cameron when he offered a referendum on weaving the

:47:39. > :47:44.EU? He acknowledged it would put pressure on the United Kingdom. I

:47:45. > :47:58.think he regrets a couple of referenda that he granted. He did

:47:59. > :48:08.that to grab power. He thought he would win it comfortably. I think

:48:09. > :48:17.Ukip grew from the ground up. It was a consensus across the country. We

:48:18. > :48:24.are voicing opinions and dissatisfaction, we felt we were

:48:25. > :48:30.being sidelined by the EU rules. I think you're being quite complacent

:48:31. > :48:35.in saying that it is a grassroots movement. They have a millionaire

:48:36. > :48:38.donor and they grew out of the fact that they were in opposition to the

:48:39. > :48:44.Labour Party which was failing in its heartland. It is not so much a

:48:45. > :48:52.grassroots movement, more that it came as a stand against the Tory

:48:53. > :49:01.party. Let's not go into the history of Ukip but with the future. He says

:49:02. > :49:05.you should not grant a second referendum. Is he right? We've just

:49:06. > :49:10.heard from Lord Lawson that the Scottish don't want the referendum.

:49:11. > :49:16.We don't need to give it at all then. Let's play safe and keep the

:49:17. > :49:19.union intact. You are misjudging the entire situation. Scotland is being

:49:20. > :49:23.marginalised, we are constantly being told that if you're living

:49:24. > :49:28.here then your fault will mean nothing in a general election. Once

:49:29. > :49:33.again we had an election where it was a referendum, once again the

:49:34. > :49:38.vote was ignored. I'd feel sorry if the Scots feel like that but I want

:49:39. > :49:43.to preserve the union. Is the union worth preserving when it has not got

:49:44. > :49:47.democratic values instilled in it? When you have a nation that does not

:49:48. > :49:54.get acknowledged, you cannot just ignore these people because you

:49:55. > :50:05.don't agree with them. You sound like you are enslaved. I've been

:50:06. > :50:09.there, it's not that bad. It will always be seen as a puppet

:50:10. > :50:17.parliament in Westminster. We want to preserve the union. The

:50:18. > :50:21.announcement is a product of the government's chosen course which is

:50:22. > :50:24.to pursue the hardest possible Brexit, pull us out of the single

:50:25. > :50:29.market and Customs union. It has gone down very badly in Scotland.

:50:30. > :50:35.She has been invited to meetings but had no impact in a country that has

:50:36. > :50:44.voted overwhelmingly to remain. We were assured that there is no threat

:50:45. > :50:48.and that was palpably untrue. This is nonsense about a hard Brexit.

:50:49. > :50:58.Brexit means Brexit, as Theresa May said. But that means nothing. The

:50:59. > :51:03.fact is the Scottish people voted to have a referendum in 2014 and very

:51:04. > :51:17.decisively to remain within the union. The union has been hugely

:51:18. > :51:19.successful. This is what the majority of Scots put it far things

:51:20. > :51:29.have changed dramatically. They haven't! That is a stronger reason

:51:30. > :51:36.to remain! They thought they would be financing independence with oil

:51:37. > :51:42.revenues. The fact of the matter is the SNP only exists to promote the

:51:43. > :51:51.independence agenda and they will use any agenda. Oil has been

:51:52. > :51:59.dropping for quite a while. America has started exporting oil, ignoring

:52:00. > :52:06.Opec. That forced the price down. Under Barack Obama, dear I see it.

:52:07. > :52:09.It has been steadily going down anyway so that clearly indicates

:52:10. > :52:18.because they had too much shale gas they had to find another way of

:52:19. > :52:23.maximising the revenue. We have not heard from Joanna, a Polish citizen.

:52:24. > :52:29.How do you feel? There was something I wanted to mention about the

:52:30. > :52:38.independence referendum in 2014 and how people voted. If I remember

:52:39. > :52:44.correctly, at every event before the referendum, EU nationals were told

:52:45. > :52:50.the only way for Scotland to stay in the European Union would be to vote

:52:51. > :52:59.against independence. A couple of years later, we are where we are. I

:53:00. > :53:07.have to say at least yesterday we have been guaranteed a choice, as

:53:08. > :53:21.opposed to being told what we are getting. How I feel now, like I am a

:53:22. > :53:28.patient on an operating table with no doctor at my side. I am in pain

:53:29. > :53:37.and Scott is there holding my hand saying everything is going to be OK.

:53:38. > :53:43.Thank you so much, we could talk much longer. Thank you for coming on

:53:44. > :53:46.the programme. We will bring you an exclusive interview with Jack Munro

:53:47. > :54:04.who has won a libel battle with Katie Hopkins. More on the breaking

:54:05. > :54:11.story Charlotte Hogg said she had breached the bank rules by not

:54:12. > :54:29.declaring that her... This was seen as a

:54:30. > :54:33.breach of the rules. It was not the cleared as part of her appointment.

:54:34. > :54:38.The Treasury Select Committee overseas appointments to the

:54:39. > :54:45.monetary policy committee looked again at this evidence and the

:54:46. > :54:51.question was why they had not been transparent in that. They said the

:54:52. > :54:55.mistakes were significant but not deliberate. The fact she was going

:54:56. > :54:58.to be controlling that relationship between the banks of England and the

:54:59. > :55:05.banks it controls, they said it made her position untenable, they did not

:55:06. > :55:10.back her promotion to be deputy governor and she announced that she

:55:11. > :55:17.was resigning because of the controversy around her role. It was

:55:18. > :55:22.a mistake she admitted to. I think it raises significant questions for

:55:23. > :55:26.the Bank of England governor. He was somebody talked about as the first

:55:27. > :55:30.possible female Governor of the Bank of England. Mark Carney gave her a

:55:31. > :55:33.verbal warning and considered the issue closed but the politicians in

:55:34. > :55:41.the Treasury Select Committee decided that was not enough, that

:55:42. > :55:47.her appointment should be rescinded. They will make a decision to get rid

:55:48. > :55:52.of her, and she has fallen on her sword. We've got her resignation

:55:53. > :55:58.letter. I'm going to read some of it. As I have said, I'm very sorry

:55:59. > :56:07.for the mistake I have made. It was an honest mistake. I fully accept it

:56:08. > :56:11.was a mistake made worse by the fact that my involvement in drafting the

:56:12. > :56:14.policy made it incumbent on me to get all my own declaration is

:56:15. > :56:23.absolutely right. In the course of a long hearing I unintentionally

:56:24. > :56:26.misheard as to whether I filed. I would like to apologise for that and

:56:27. > :56:33.make clear my responsibility for those errors. I have not shared

:56:34. > :56:37.confidential information or misused it in anyway. I recognise that being

:56:38. > :56:45.sorry is not enough. We should not merely but exceed the standards we

:56:46. > :56:52.are expecting of others. She offered the governor her resignation last

:56:53. > :56:59.week and today has become clear that she should insist, she says. They

:57:00. > :57:05.may be thought they could tough it out, that she could remain in the

:57:06. > :57:15.bank. She been hugely praised for bringing it more diversely. Being a

:57:16. > :57:25.senior woman was very important. The point made, if you are the rule

:57:26. > :57:29.maker and break those rules, it becomes untenable. The issue would

:57:30. > :57:37.have been for her, for the first time one of the commercial banks

:57:38. > :57:48.grows and break the rules. She broke the rules but was allowed to stay.

:57:49. > :57:54.Word processors transparent? This breach of the rules seems have

:57:55. > :57:57.lasted for about four years and they've asked questions about the

:57:58. > :58:01.transparency of the Bank of England. It was for her to tell the Treasury

:58:02. > :58:05.Select Committee rather than it being part of the bank's process.

:58:06. > :58:13.The fact that it lasted so long with no knowledge about that, they wonder

:58:14. > :58:25.about that. The bank has announced that there will be new rules put in

:58:26. > :58:30.place. We will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. First,

:58:31. > :58:34.the weather. This morning we have a fairly mild start to the day and

:58:35. > :58:39.also a lot of cloud around. Temperatures today and any breaks in

:58:40. > :58:44.the cloud could well hit 19 Celsius. At the same time, we've got deals,

:58:45. > :58:49.severe gales in the far north of Scotland. -- wind. You can see from

:58:50. > :58:53.looking at these pictures, the cold front is heading south, more cloud

:58:54. > :58:56.and patchy rain. After a mild start across Scotland and Northern Ireland

:58:57. > :59:01.you will find the temperatures are dropping a touch. Through the cause

:59:02. > :59:06.of this morning we continue with this weather front, producing cloud.

:59:07. > :59:21.Some hill fog and coastal fog around the coast of Wales. The cloud will

:59:22. > :59:32.break and we will see sunshine. Severe gusts coupled with showers.

:59:33. > :59:37.Quite windy day across Scotland but for many of us there will be

:59:38. > :59:45.showers. We're looking at conditions across Northern Ireland. But

:59:46. > :59:53.remember, England and Wales seeing cloud. We could see up to 19 but in

:59:54. > :00:01.the cloud it is more likely 13, 14. The Cheltenham Festival, there will

:00:02. > :00:07.be bright weather and sunny skies. The weather front makes it down into

:00:08. > :00:17.the South and pivots. The whole lot will push eastward and patchy rain

:00:18. > :00:26.and called for a total of her contract with a mild but we had to

:00:27. > :00:30.do. We will see the weather front in the West fishing steadily eastward.

:00:31. > :00:34.Taking the cloud and the market conditions with it. Rather like

:00:35. > :00:39.today, where you see breaks in the cloak the temperatures will get up

:00:40. > :00:47.to 16, 17 Celsius. When we don't have them we are looking at around

:00:48. > :00:51.13, 15. On Thursday, this cold front comes our way. The weather will come

:00:52. > :00:58.in from the Atlantic. This band of rain will slowly slip southwards and

:00:59. > :01:03.you will find it turning colder. We start off with a dry and bright

:01:04. > :01:15.note. Temperatures will not be too bad in the South.

:01:16. > :01:28.Hello it's Tuesday, ten o clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

:01:29. > :01:34.The deputy governor of the Bank of England resigns.

:01:35. > :01:36.Should we be seeing more armed police officers on our streets?

:01:37. > :01:38.We'll be hearing about firearms officers' rigorous training.

:01:39. > :01:41.Sometimes I go home from here of an evening and you see

:01:42. > :01:44.what is going on in the news and you just think, in a few months,

:01:45. > :01:47.if I pass this course, that could be me going out to that

:01:48. > :01:49.job, first on scene, having to discharge a weapon.

:01:50. > :01:58.We will hear from critics who think too many officers are already armed.

:01:59. > :02:01.The blogger and writer Jack Monroe talks exclusively this programme,

:02:02. > :02:04.about what it was like to win a libel case against

:02:05. > :02:11.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:02:12. > :02:16.The Bank of England's newly appointed deputy governor has

:02:17. > :02:22.resigned after failing to reveal her brother holds a senior role at

:02:23. > :02:25.Barclays Bank. MPs said Charlotte Hogg's professional competence falls

:02:26. > :02:32.short of the professional competence standard required to fill the role.

:02:33. > :02:34.Theresa May seems on course to reject Nicola Sturgeon's request

:02:35. > :02:38.to hold a second referendum on Scottish independence before

:02:39. > :02:49.Scotland's First Minister announced yesterday that she would seek

:02:50. > :02:52.permission for the vote to be held between autumn next year

:02:53. > :03:03.It comes as the bill giving the Prime Minister the power

:03:04. > :03:04.to trigger Brexit cleared its final hurdle in parliament

:03:05. > :03:08.The House of Lords voted in favour of the legislation

:03:09. > :03:16.without reinstating amendments which were removed by the Commons.

:03:17. > :03:19.Ukip's biggest financial backer Arron Banks has announced

:03:20. > :03:21.that his membership of the party has been suspended but there

:03:22. > :03:23.was confusion over his claim a Ukip spokesman said

:03:24. > :03:26.that the millionaire's membership had lapsed earlier this year.

:03:27. > :03:28.Mr Banks, who is a close friend of former leader Nigel Farage

:03:29. > :03:31.and funded the Leave EU campaign in last year's Brexit referendum,

:03:32. > :03:34.gave ?1 million to Ukip ahead of the 2015 general election.

:03:35. > :03:36.But he has been sceptical about the leadership of Paul Nuttall

:03:37. > :03:39.and has recently spoken of founding a new political movement to "drain

:03:40. > :03:48.Norman, tell us what the implications are. More trouble and

:03:49. > :03:58.strife in Ukip as if they had not had enough. But now we have Aaron

:03:59. > :04:05.Banks saying he has been booted out of the party. He says, I understand

:04:06. > :04:11.why my Ukip membership has been suspended, interesting times lie

:04:12. > :04:19.ahead. People say he said that the current leadership could not knock

:04:20. > :04:26.the skin off a rice pudding. They are still mulling it over, say UK,

:04:27. > :04:31.and no decision has been made to boot him out. The new leader Paul

:04:32. > :04:36.Nuttall would like to talk to him about his attitude towards Ukip. Mr

:04:37. > :04:41.Banks threatened to stand against Douglas Carswell, the only Ukip MP

:04:42. > :04:47.at the last election, and there is a tussle between the new Paul Nuttall

:04:48. > :04:50.supporters and the old Nigel Farage supporters as Paul Nuttall tries to

:04:51. > :04:52.assert his authority over the party and that is what this seems to be

:04:53. > :04:56.about. Charities say they are continuing

:04:57. > :04:59.to see widespread problems with the behaviour of bailiffs

:05:00. > :05:00.towards vulnerable people in financial difficulty,

:05:01. > :05:03.despite a crackdown. In 2014 changes to the law

:05:04. > :05:05.strengthened protection against unfair treatment,

:05:06. > :05:08.but a report by a number of charities claims the reforms have

:05:09. > :05:10.only had minimal impact. The Government intends

:05:11. > :05:12.to publish a review of how the measures are working,

:05:13. > :05:14.but says aggressive enforcement That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:15. > :05:31.News, more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us throughout

:05:32. > :05:34.the morning. This is an e-mail. I was a police firearms officer for

:05:35. > :05:39.ten years and the cause was the most intense and stressful cause I have

:05:40. > :05:42.ever completed. The public can be reassured the police officers

:05:43. > :05:47.receive the best training in the world without doubt. Training is

:05:48. > :05:51.ongoing on a monthly basis. It is vital the police continue to carry

:05:52. > :05:55.firearms for the protection of the public. Police need confidence and

:05:56. > :05:58.they are backed and supported by their fours in the event an officer

:05:59. > :06:00.discharge of the public. Please need confident they are backed and

:06:01. > :06:01.supported by their fours in the event an officer discharges their

:06:02. > :06:07.weapon. Double Olympic gold medallist John

:06:08. > :06:10.arousal has announced her retirement from international cycling. She said

:06:11. > :06:15.she had achieved everything she ever wanted, including five world titles

:06:16. > :06:19.and four European titles, a Commonwealth gold medal and two

:06:20. > :06:24.Olympic gold medals. She will continue in cycling as a coach.

:06:25. > :06:27.Manchester United manager Jose-Maria Newell told Chelsea fans he was

:06:28. > :06:32.still number one after they heckled him during their FA Cup match last

:06:33. > :06:39.night. They called him Judas. Chelsea beat Manchester United 1-0.

:06:40. > :06:48.Chelsea had to play for almost an hour with ten men after this tackle.

:06:49. > :06:57.He duly departed, but the goal was not a bad goal at all. Following

:06:58. > :07:03.Jose Mourinho's sacking from Chelsea, he was given plenty of

:07:04. > :07:15.stick. They can call me what they want. I am a professional. I defend

:07:16. > :07:20.my club. Until the moment they have a manager that wins four Premier

:07:21. > :07:29.League is for them, I am the number one. When that manager wins four

:07:30. > :07:37.Premier League, I become number two, but at the moment Judas is number

:07:38. > :07:41.one. And with women be admitted to Muirfield golf club? There is a

:07:42. > :07:46.second ballot today and it is likely to be yes. The first vote narrowly

:07:47. > :07:51.failed to achieve the vote needed. They were told they would no longer

:07:52. > :07:53.be able to host the open championship. That will be

:07:54. > :07:58.overturned if there is a positive vote today and women are admitted.

:07:59. > :08:05.This morning, as the national debate continues over whether police

:08:06. > :08:07.officers should be more routinely armed we've had exclusive access

:08:08. > :08:09.to a firearms training centre in Cheshire where officers

:08:10. > :08:14.It's an intensive three-month course with many officers

:08:15. > :08:19.At the moment out of a total of 130,000 police officers

:08:20. > :08:21.in England and Wales - around 7500 are firearms officers -

:08:22. > :08:24.a record number aimed at protecting the public from terrorism.

:08:25. > :08:26.We played you our full film earlier in the programme,

:08:27. > :08:29.It lasts around three minutes and contains realistic training

:08:30. > :08:31.exercises featuring hostage scenarios and repeated

:08:32. > :08:37.If you think you may find it upsetting, you may want to look away

:08:38. > :09:04.These are the new recruits. Will they be up to the job? Each

:09:05. > :09:09.individual officer has a role. They have a role to perform when they are

:09:10. > :09:14.at the door, so we are trying to get them to memorise the roles, and the

:09:15. > :09:18.roles are so fluent, so they can form up at one door and deal with

:09:19. > :09:23.that specific area and when they come out and they have another

:09:24. > :09:29.threat, they will be in a completely different position. Recruits must

:09:30. > :09:33.prove they can handle a gun safely. Drop the gun now! They need to learn

:09:34. > :09:44.how to search buildings and confront threats. Kelly Ellis is one of the

:09:45. > :09:48.hopefuls from North Wales. My mum and dad were a bit apprehensive at

:09:49. > :09:52.first, but trying to explain to them the training we get and the weapons

:09:53. > :09:58.we carry I will be more protected than I am now as a regular officer

:09:59. > :10:03.out on the streets. My friends all love the fact I am doing firearms

:10:04. > :10:09.training and they call me Lara Croft and allsorts! Everyone is really

:10:10. > :10:13.supportive. Recruits who can search buildings graduate to threats on the

:10:14. > :10:18.move. They must learn when to negotiate with an emotionally

:10:19. > :10:30.distressed suspect and when to turn to their weapon. But the weapon on

:10:31. > :10:35.the floor, mate. Get down. And this is the side of armed policing rarely

:10:36. > :10:40.seen, training to save lives using a computer-controlled simulator

:10:41. > :10:46.patient. We have got the briefing. Take that strap over his head. The

:10:47. > :10:53.trainee is no need to put all these skills together in an armed hostage

:10:54. > :10:58.scenario. Dave Alcock, one of the tutors, plays the role of the

:10:59. > :11:04.suspect. We are asking you to make the decision to eliminate a threat

:11:05. > :11:10.with a ballistic force. At the end of that we are asking you to

:11:11. > :11:16.preserve life. Up to a third of applicants fail firearms training.

:11:17. > :11:19.This time the final ten all pass. They are now qualified to carry guns

:11:20. > :11:23.and they will soon be on a street near you.

:11:24. > :11:25.Dominic Casciani is our Home Affairs Correspondent

:11:26. > :11:34.Tony Long is a former Metropolitan police firearms officer who supports

:11:35. > :11:41.Leroy Logan served 30 years in the Met Police and he's

:11:42. > :11:46.opposed to an expansion of arming the police.

:11:47. > :11:51.There was criticism from our audience. By putting this film out

:11:52. > :11:56.it is sanitising the use of firearms. I understand where people

:11:57. > :12:00.are coming from. There are concerns about how we portray armed policing

:12:01. > :12:04.and we thought long and hard about whether or not to make this film. We

:12:05. > :12:08.felt for some time we wanted to see in a fly on the wall weight what

:12:09. > :12:14.kind of training officers go through if they are at the serious end of

:12:15. > :12:17.armed policing. That means not just the guys hanging around at

:12:18. > :12:23.Manchester or Heathrow airport, but the men and women who have to go to

:12:24. > :12:29.critical incidents. What are they trained to do? When we got the

:12:30. > :12:33.access, we made clear we wanted to fill whatever we wanted to film and

:12:34. > :12:38.speak to whoever we wanted to speak to. The guys in the Cheshire school

:12:39. > :12:43.which is allied to North Wales were happy for us to do it and they let

:12:44. > :12:47.us get on with it and let us film what we wanted. What you see on the

:12:48. > :12:52.camera is what we saw. We try to show it how it was. And the

:12:53. > :12:58.background to this expansion of firearms training for officers? This

:12:59. > :13:03.is where the controversy is. Firearms numbers reached a high of

:13:04. > :13:09.7020 ten and then the numbers began to drop as police budgets were cut.

:13:10. > :13:14.A lot of officers started to retire. Now because certainly in the light

:13:15. > :13:19.of Paris and the taxpayer, the decision has been to lift the

:13:20. > :13:22.numbers up. In a year we will have 1500 officers and because of the

:13:23. > :13:27.extra number of vehicles the public will see a much work visible

:13:28. > :13:35.policing presence, certainly in the metropolitan cities. Do you back

:13:36. > :13:40.that? I believe we need to have the capacity to deal with any sort of

:13:41. > :13:44.risks to the public. If we are having an increase in the form of

:13:45. > :13:49.terrorism as we have seen in other parts of Europe, then we need to

:13:50. > :13:54.have officers armed with the commensurate firepower to eliminate

:13:55. > :14:02.that threat to the public. My issue is around on foot patrol officers

:14:03. > :14:07.being armed or having more regular arming of officers when they could

:14:08. > :14:12.be kept in vehicles or at least stations, so we do not change the

:14:13. > :14:17.look and feel of policing. We are of the world and why would we want to

:14:18. > :14:21.change that? Is there much push for foot officers to be armed or is it

:14:22. > :14:29.about training more officers in the use of firearms? This has become a

:14:30. > :14:34.bit of a grey area in some forces. There was a controversy at the back

:14:35. > :14:38.end of last year where there was a suggestion armed officers were going

:14:39. > :14:43.on patrol in parts of Scotland. The Scottish Constabulary pushed back

:14:44. > :14:47.hard and said it was not happening. Officers who were trained to carry

:14:48. > :14:51.firearms were out on the streets in a much more visible way. There are

:14:52. > :14:58.concerns from within the forces themselves. You have got to

:14:59. > :15:02.volunteer to be a firearms officer. Your average PC, your average cop,

:15:03. > :15:06.never has to go anywhere near a gun and they want that contact with the

:15:07. > :15:10.public. One of the things Chief constables say feeding back from

:15:11. > :15:12.their officers it is the lack of guns which means they are able to

:15:13. > :15:24.engage with the public. Let me add that the Met Police

:15:25. > :15:35.Federation are always banging on about officers feeling at risk. We

:15:36. > :15:42.are at risk -- we were at risk from the IRA and we did not get armed,

:15:43. > :15:53.but we canvass on a regular basis. Let me bring in a Met police

:15:54. > :15:57.firearms officer. If someone hires a massive articulated lorry and drive

:15:58. > :16:06.it into a shopping centre, I would extra firearms protect us? The

:16:07. > :16:12.reality is they would not. This is my issue. The attack in Berlin

:16:13. > :16:20.happened because the lorry got to a point when it could go no further.

:16:21. > :16:25.In Nice the lorry carried on until it was stopped by armed

:16:26. > :16:37.intervention. They were not the type that you reported on. The officers

:16:38. > :16:41.but stopped the attack were regular patrol officers. Bobbies on the beat

:16:42. > :16:51.that happened to be policing a firework events. If that was to

:16:52. > :17:03.happen in London or any major city, that lorry would travel further. I

:17:04. > :17:09.point to the Lee Rigby incident. The armed response vehicles took 15

:17:10. > :17:14.minutes to get to the sight of that. The reality was the unarmed police

:17:15. > :17:21.force we are so proud of had to stand by for 10-12 minutes. They

:17:22. > :17:33.watched the public that we are sworn to protect doing our job for us. But

:17:34. > :17:38.those members of the public that an amazing job. Absolutely but it is

:17:39. > :17:44.their job to protect the public. It is good that they enjoy the job,

:17:45. > :17:48.says Graham on Facebook, but if you're confronted by a firearms

:17:49. > :17:52.officer do not pick up your purse, mobile phone or anything else

:17:53. > :18:00.because they will kill you. They don't need to see a gun, they need

:18:01. > :18:10.to feel threatened. There is a degree of truth in that. Policemen

:18:11. > :18:16.do not need to see a gun. If they have good reason to believe, I made

:18:17. > :18:22.it clear that as a result of the intelligence I strongly believe him

:18:23. > :18:29.to have docked down and picked up a gun. I believe to this day the gun

:18:30. > :18:44.was recovered on the back-seat. I made it clear that it was a

:18:45. > :18:50.ludicrous situation. You were charged with murder, it took ten

:18:51. > :18:59.years to clear your name. How many people have you killed through your

:19:00. > :19:08.job? I've shot five people over a 25 year career. Three of those died,

:19:09. > :19:14.sadly. Does that keep you awake at night? Not at all. That's what you

:19:15. > :19:20.trained to do and if you're not prepared to take on that

:19:21. > :19:28.responsibility, my way of justifying it to myself, it is not in human

:19:29. > :19:37.nature to take another human being's life. They were all bad people. The

:19:38. > :19:41.first person I shot had murdered a woman and held that woman's child

:19:42. > :19:51.hostage for over 24 hours and was in the process of stabbing this

:19:52. > :20:00.four-year-old girl when I shot him. These are people who have chosen to

:20:01. > :20:14.go down a certain routes because of anger. Going back to the person that

:20:15. > :20:20.text that on that message. If young men go out to commit crime and take

:20:21. > :20:26.a firearm with them they've got to realise that the police will do

:20:27. > :20:35.their level best to arrest them safely without them being injured

:20:36. > :20:38.and police being injured. If it comes to a split-second decision

:20:39. > :20:42.they will come a preferred. It is like kids taking out lives speak --

:20:43. > :20:46.knives because they think it will make them safer. It will not. It

:20:47. > :20:50.will endanger their lives. That is the message that needs to go out.

:20:51. > :21:03.Thank you for coming on the programme. Thanks for your comments.

:21:04. > :21:10.Keith is a firearms instructor. He says armed police are necessary but

:21:11. > :21:13.99% of what the deal with are not firearms are so introducing a

:21:14. > :21:18.firearm into a non-firearms situation, when you look at the

:21:19. > :21:21.stats from these countries were officers are routinely armed, the

:21:22. > :21:27.majority of officers who shot are shot with their own weapons which

:21:28. > :21:32.are taken from them. Still to come, Theresa May might have got Brexit

:21:33. > :21:35.through the Commons but now the government faces a second referendum

:21:36. > :21:45.on Scottish independence. We will find out what that means as the UK

:21:46. > :21:52.withdraws from the EU. This morning, in an exclusive food interview, the

:21:53. > :22:00.writer and food blogger tells us how the legal action has destroyed their

:22:01. > :22:07.life. Jack Munro was offered ?24,000 in damages but it is estimated that

:22:08. > :22:10.Katie Hopkins's case could end up costing ?300,000.

:22:11. > :22:12.The case centred on a Twitter exchange in May 2015,

:22:13. > :22:14.in which Katie Hopkins suggested Jack Monroe approved

:22:15. > :22:17.of defacing a war memorial during an anti-austerity

:22:18. > :22:20.When Monroe, who is from an armed forces family, responded furiously

:22:21. > :22:25.and demanded ?5,000 for a migrants' charity on threat of a libel action,

:22:26. > :22:28.Hopkins deleted the original tweet but followed it up with one

:22:29. > :22:38.describing Jack Monroe as "social anthrax".

:22:39. > :22:45.Jack Monroe is here along with Mark Lewis, Jack's lawyer.

:22:46. > :22:50.Katie Hopkins said she confused you with a journalist when she sent that

:22:51. > :22:56.first tweet. What was your first reaction? I was absolutely

:22:57. > :23:03.horrified. I'm from a family with a strong Armed Forces background and I

:23:04. > :23:08.was aware of the news leading up to that tweets. The defacement of the

:23:09. > :23:21.war memorial and the public outrage. To be connected with it, I was

:23:22. > :23:37.absolutely horrified. I did not want my brother who was in the royal air

:23:38. > :23:41.Force connected either. So you said, I don't believe that, make a

:23:42. > :23:45.donation to charity. Were you surprised when she didn't? Few

:23:46. > :23:50.things happened in between that. I corrected her. Quite strong terms.

:23:51. > :23:53.Secondly I said I'm asking you to delete this and if I ask you again

:23:54. > :23:59.it will be through a lawyer. Because she did not respond to either of

:24:00. > :24:05.those, I decided to flex a bit of muscle, make her do something that

:24:06. > :24:12.will make her respond. Initially, the ?5,000 was flippant, I wanted to

:24:13. > :24:16.prod her and get her to respond. I left slightly more polite requests

:24:17. > :24:21.when she didn't respond. Were you surprised when she didn't take you

:24:22. > :24:27.up on that? I was and I wasn't. What abuse did you receive as a result of

:24:28. > :24:40.her tweaks? It was an endless torrent of messages. I knew there

:24:41. > :24:46.were people who felt strongly about the forces and if they thought I was

:24:47. > :24:52.connected they would hurl a lot of mud at me. There were things I could

:24:53. > :25:00.not respond to on this programme. It is so colourful, abusive. I had lots

:25:01. > :25:07.of people sending the awful messages. Including death threats.

:25:08. > :25:15.Give us an insight without using that language. People sending

:25:16. > :25:18.pictures of nurses. It sounds trite when you're talking about that but

:25:19. > :25:24.when you're caught in the middle of that storm, your phone is flashing

:25:25. > :25:26.up with people calling you every name under the sun and telling you

:25:27. > :25:39.that you are the worst human being in the world, it permeates every

:25:40. > :25:43.corner of your life. The impact of the abuse as a result of those

:25:44. > :25:50.tweets, what has that been on your personal life? It has been

:25:51. > :26:04.stressful. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. It has been almost two

:26:05. > :26:19.years. I've got to delve back down that rabbit hole. I had stress on my

:26:20. > :26:25.personal life. I've not been in a relationship, because everybody

:26:26. > :26:30.thought I was mad to take her on. It has been stressful maths and on

:26:31. > :26:38.Friday the first feeling from walking out, complete shellshock

:26:39. > :26:50.that it was over. Why did you take her on? She said something about me

:26:51. > :27:03.that was not only untrue but not even remotely true about the core of

:27:04. > :27:04.who I am and what I am made of. I have never vandalised anything let

:27:05. > :27:22.alone a war memorial. I was devastated that one person

:27:23. > :27:30.would believe this about me. I felt my reputation was ruined and I had

:27:31. > :27:34.no choice but to respond to it. And the judge ruled that the tweets

:27:35. > :27:39.caused you real and substantial distress and you are entitled to

:27:40. > :27:42.fear and reasonable compensation but also that your reputation had not

:27:43. > :27:47.necessarily suffer gravely but the publication of the tweaks caused

:27:48. > :27:54.serious harm to your reputation. Some untreated, very satisfying to

:27:55. > :28:00.see the rectory discussed. Trevor says, I think Jack Munro is terrific

:28:01. > :28:08.for taking on that nasty piece of work, Katie Hopkins. Well done. --

:28:09. > :28:13.Nice. Let me bring in Mark Lewis. Will the successful conclusion of

:28:14. > :28:21.this case encourage more people to take action for Twitter libel? It

:28:22. > :28:25.has certainly helped coin the phrase of Twibel. There are professional

:28:26. > :28:29.trawls, the likes of Katie Hopkins, who will go against people. What she

:28:30. > :28:36.did with Jack was set her followers on her. She claims free speech but

:28:37. > :28:40.she is the one who would not enter into an argument or say sorry. She

:28:41. > :28:46.just set lots of people on her. She knew what she was doing. The final

:28:47. > :28:53.costs are yet to be established but Katie Hopkins has to pay your legal

:28:54. > :29:00.bill as well as her own, what do you think of that? She could have very

:29:01. > :29:12.easily avoided the situation. That the steep bill to pay and

:29:13. > :29:17.unimaginable to me. It is the price of not saying sorry. She could have

:29:18. > :29:23.said that at the beginning but she did not. The second was an act of

:29:24. > :29:28.defiance. She was so keen of not seeing it she said it is deserved,

:29:29. > :29:33.what is the difference. That's why she had to pay more. If she stopped,

:29:34. > :29:41.it would have not cost her a penny. She did not stop. After she lost,

:29:42. > :29:48.she tweeted a picture of her looking like this, dressed up as what

:29:49. > :29:52.appears to be the Virgin Mary. She says she sees herself as the Jesus

:29:53. > :30:04.of the outspoken. What do you think of that? She is verging on the

:30:05. > :30:10.ridiculous. I cannot see any of her values being any values I remember

:30:11. > :30:15.from the Bible. It takes a certain kind of person to compare themselves

:30:16. > :30:24.to a deity. That is all you need to say about that. What are your

:30:25. > :30:27.thoughts towards her? I feel quite compassionate and sympathetic

:30:28. > :30:40.because nobody needs a ?300,000 legal bill and I had no idea when I

:30:41. > :30:50.started this, what lawyers cost, and I think I've emerged the victor and

:30:51. > :30:57.had a lot of public support. I cannot even begin to imagine how she

:30:58. > :30:59.feels at the moment. I bear no ill will towards and I've told my

:31:00. > :31:04.followers not to be unkind or abusive. I hope it means people will

:31:05. > :31:13.be a bit kinder to each other on the Internet. This will undo all that.

:31:14. > :31:19.Claudia says that on Twitter, Katie Hopkins should have paid more. Maybe

:31:20. > :31:26.people will learn lessons from this. Graham said, we love you, many of us

:31:27. > :31:32.are victims of a hateful mob. This week says Jack is amazing. Katie

:31:33. > :31:46.Hopkins is a bully and a trawl. The lesson is if you make a mistake

:31:47. > :31:50.on Twitter and say something defamatory, make an apology. Very

:31:51. > :31:58.quickly say sorry and moved in from it. Thank you both very much for

:31:59. > :32:01.coming in. Now the latest news headlines.

:32:02. > :32:02.The Bank of England's newly appointed deputy governor,

:32:03. > :32:08.Charlotte Hogg, has resigned after MPs criticised her for failing

:32:09. > :32:11.to reveal that her brother holds a senior role at Barclays Bank.

:32:12. > :32:13.MPs said Charlotte Hogg's professional competence fell short

:32:14. > :32:15.of the standards required to fulfil her role.

:32:16. > :32:17.They found that Ms Hogg failed over a period of nearly

:32:18. > :32:20.four years to comply with the Bank's Code of Conduct.

:32:21. > :32:22.Theresa May seems on course to reject Nicola Sturgeon's request

:32:23. > :32:25.to hold a second referendum on Scottish independence before

:32:26. > :32:30.Scotland's First Minister announced yesterday that she would seek

:32:31. > :32:32.permission for the vote to be held between autumn next year

:32:33. > :32:37.It comes as the bill giving the Prime Minister the power

:32:38. > :32:39.to trigger Brexit cleared its final hurdle in parliament

:32:40. > :32:44.The House of Lords voted in favour of the legislation

:32:45. > :32:50.without reinstating amendments which were removed by the Commons.

:32:51. > :32:52.Ukip's biggest financial backer Arron Banks has announced

:32:53. > :32:55.that his membership of the party has been suspended, but there

:32:56. > :32:57.was confusion over his claim, as a Ukip spokesman said

:32:58. > :33:01.that the millionaire's membership had lapsed earlier this year.

:33:02. > :33:04.Mr Banks, who is a close friend of former leader Nigel Farage,

:33:05. > :33:07.and funded the Leave EU campaign in last year's Brexit referendum,

:33:08. > :33:11.gave ?1 million to Ukip ahead of the 2015 general election.

:33:12. > :33:15.But he has been sceptical about the leadership of Paul Nuttall

:33:16. > :33:17.and has recently spoken of founding a new political movement

:33:18. > :33:27.to "drain the swamp" of Westminster politics.

:33:28. > :33:32.A severely disabled man born from incestuous rape has lost his Court

:33:33. > :33:36.of Appeal fight to claim compensation. The 29-year-old man

:33:37. > :33:41.whose mother was abused with her own father was born with a genetic

:33:42. > :33:44.disorder and has epilepsy, severe learning and developmental

:33:45. > :33:48.difficulties and hearing and sight problems. The Court of Appeal

:33:49. > :33:53.decision overturned a ruling by the other tribunal last year that the

:33:54. > :33:58.man was eligible for a reward under the criminal injuries compensation

:33:59. > :34:04.scheme. Join me for BBC newsroom live at 11 o'clock.

:34:05. > :34:10.Chelsea knocked out Manchester United to join the semifinals of the

:34:11. > :34:15.FA Cup. There was a sending off for her error for this second yellow

:34:16. > :34:21.card. There was also a great winning goal to win it 1-0. Jose Mourinho

:34:22. > :34:26.received plenty of criticism on the touchline with both managers having

:34:27. > :34:30.to be separated at times. Double Olympic gold medallist join arousal

:34:31. > :34:34.announced her retirement from cycling. She won five world titles,

:34:35. > :34:43.one of those pictured here. She won two gold medals in London and in

:34:44. > :34:47.rear. We are expected to hear today whether women will be admitted to

:34:48. > :34:54.Muirfield golf club. It is likely to be a yes vote which means Muirfield

:34:55. > :34:57.could host the open championship. Liverpool and Birmingham have

:34:58. > :35:04.expressed an interest in hosting the common wealth games in 2022. They

:35:05. > :35:07.were supposed to be held in Durban, but financial difficulties means the

:35:08. > :35:08.federation is looking for a new host city.

:35:09. > :35:14.Theresa May looks set to reject Nicola Sturgeon's request to hold

:35:15. > :35:16.a second referendum on Scottish independence before the process

:35:17. > :35:22.It comes as the Brexit secretary, David Davis, confirms Article 50

:35:23. > :35:25.will be triggered by the end of the month to begin

:35:26. > :35:28.the formal process of leaving the European Union.

:35:29. > :35:30.# World, the time has come to push that button.

:35:31. > :35:42.The British people have spoken and the answer is we are out.

:35:43. > :35:59.The UK is about to take its next big step towards Brexit.

:36:00. > :36:02.This will happen when Theresa May triggers Article 50,

:36:03. > :36:05.which means she will start the formal process of the UK

:36:06. > :36:10.Negotiations with the EU will begin shortly after.

:36:11. > :36:15.No, nothing will change today, tomorrow, next week or next month.

:36:16. > :36:19.The UK will remain a member of the EU for up to two years,

:36:20. > :36:23.EU laws and rules, including the freedom

:36:24. > :36:27.Very long and very complex negotiations will take place

:36:28. > :36:34.Think of it like an ongoing divorce case, where the two sides

:36:35. > :36:36.will discuss rights for Brits living abroad, cross-border security

:36:37. > :36:43.The UK is currently in the European single market, a system designed

:36:44. > :36:45.to help businesses by removing barriers to trade.

:36:46. > :36:48.Theresa May wants to exit this system.

:36:49. > :36:51.She says being part of it would mean the UK could not

:36:52. > :36:57.Instead, she wants to enter a customs union with the EU,

:36:58. > :37:07.a different kind of trade agreement, but will the other side agree?

:37:08. > :37:11.There is a two-year limit for negotiations to be completed.

:37:12. > :37:14.Although this can be extended, but only if all other EU

:37:15. > :37:21.If no agreement is reached in time, the UK will

:37:22. > :37:29.According to the man who wrote Article 50, yes, it could,

:37:30. > :37:43.It will take a very long time until the divorce

:37:44. > :37:50.Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh MP is the SNP spokesperson for Trade

:37:51. > :37:52.and Investment in Westminster, and Dominic Raab who's

:37:53. > :37:57.a Conservative MP and was part of the official Vote Leave Campaign.

:37:58. > :38:03.It was David Cameron who set the wheels in motion for the second

:38:04. > :38:06.Scotland independence referendum. He acknowledged a vote for leaving the

:38:07. > :38:12.EU would see pressure for that second referendum. We knew from the

:38:13. > :38:16.SNP itself they had made this one of the things they were going to

:38:17. > :38:20.campaign on. What is surprising and telling is the SNP and Nicola

:38:21. > :38:23.Sturgeon came out all guns blazing saying they want to have a second

:38:24. > :38:28.referendum before we know the outcome of the Brexit negotiations

:38:29. > :38:32.with the EU. They will be quite a few people north of the border who

:38:33. > :38:37.would like to know what that choice is before they have the referendum.

:38:38. > :38:44.That is a good point. You cannot have a real discussion, you cannot

:38:45. > :38:48.have that independence referendum sensibly until the Brexit deal is

:38:49. > :38:54.complete. Dominik did not listen to a word the First Minister said. The

:38:55. > :39:05.time frame she suggested, or to year up to spring 2019, by that time we

:39:06. > :39:10.should have an idea of the way things are going. Not necessarily.

:39:11. > :39:19.Despite UK ministers giving us assurances... We should have a final

:39:20. > :39:25.deal. What about businesses and EU nationals are waiting for an outcome

:39:26. > :39:29.with this? Wait until the final deal so people can have an informed

:39:30. > :39:35.choice. By that time Scotland will be presented with two clear choices.

:39:36. > :39:40.One about what Brexit will look like and the other option for Scotland.

:39:41. > :39:43.What kind of a country do we want to be? Genuinely giving people in

:39:44. > :39:48.Scotland a choice. At the end of the day they have not been given a

:39:49. > :39:50.choice, they did not vote to leave the European Union. The Prime

:39:51. > :39:57.Minister has had ample opportunities to look at Scotland in Europe and

:39:58. > :40:02.has ignored it completely. A meeting was cancelled on a whim. It is about

:40:03. > :40:07.time people of Scotland were given some respect and the way we do that

:40:08. > :40:10.is this. We have been left with no option. The government has not

:40:11. > :40:16.budged an inch, they did not look at or accept any of our amendments and

:40:17. > :40:19.they wanted to ride roughshod over Scotland's amendments. It is only

:40:20. > :40:24.right the First Minister has done what she could only do in this

:40:25. > :40:30.situation. The Prime Minister has to be careful in the way she responds?

:40:31. > :40:34.Yes, I think so, not least on the Brexit negotiations. We are poised

:40:35. > :40:39.to start this two-year period you covered in your plate and there are

:40:40. > :40:42.a huge amount of positive as well. We want to get the best deal for

:40:43. > :40:48.every nation in the UK, on things like this whiskey, financial

:40:49. > :40:52.services, big exports for the people of Scotland, and we want to take

:40:53. > :40:57.powers from Brussels and there will be opportunity to devolve further

:40:58. > :41:01.powers to Scotland. You have to wait until the end of the process so you

:41:02. > :41:06.can see the full deal if you want to have another referendum in Scotland.

:41:07. > :41:12.We were told the referendum in Scotland in 2014 was once in a

:41:13. > :41:17.generation by the SNP. Things have changed dramatically since then, not

:41:18. > :41:23.least the collapse in the oil price. The UK wide approach that was wanted

:41:24. > :41:28.by the Prime Minister is so wide that we do not even know when

:41:29. > :41:36.Article 50 will be trickled -- triggered. We do know, it is the end

:41:37. > :41:43.of March. You are going all guns blazing. We well know by the end of

:41:44. > :41:46.March that we will start the negotiations. To say Nicola Sturgeon

:41:47. > :41:52.does not know when Brexit negotiations will start is false. We

:41:53. > :41:56.have been clear from the start. We presented a compromise agreement to

:41:57. > :42:00.the government. Scotland voted to stay in the EU, however we were

:42:01. > :42:03.prepared to reach an agreement within the constitutional framework

:42:04. > :42:07.to stay with in the UK if Scotland could stay in the single market and

:42:08. > :42:13.the Prime Minister has ignored us completely. How much of a gamble is

:42:14. > :42:17.this for Nicola Sturgeon? I do not think it is a gamble at all. The

:42:18. > :42:21.First Minister has to do what is best for Scotland. She is doing what

:42:22. > :42:24.is best for the people of this country and they will have the

:42:25. > :42:31.opportunity to make a decision. Thank you very much. A former prison

:42:32. > :42:33.employee who was convicted of smuggling phones for inmates has

:42:34. > :42:41.claimed he was never searched at work. He is called James Ormond and

:42:42. > :42:45.he worked in Rutland and he has been speaking exclusively to our home

:42:46. > :42:55.affairs correspondent. What did he tell you? He said he had got a job

:42:56. > :42:58.at the prison with an agency and was initially recruited to do

:42:59. > :43:04.non-prisoner rolls, he was escorting building renovators, so he had no

:43:05. > :43:08.contact with prisoners at the start. Then his role developed and he

:43:09. > :43:13.started having to guard prisoners, to guard the classrooms where they

:43:14. > :43:18.were taking courses, and do some random searches of prisoners. During

:43:19. > :43:22.that time he got talking to an inmate and they started chatting

:43:23. > :43:26.about football and things like that. Eventually the conversation

:43:27. > :43:30.developed and this inmate started to tell him that he wanted him to bring

:43:31. > :43:37.in a mobile phone. This is what he told me. I felt vulnerable in the

:43:38. > :43:43.role, especially because at the time I was suffering very heavily with

:43:44. > :43:47.depression. My father had passed away. That is the kind of thing

:43:48. > :43:52.these prisoners can pick up on easily. They have a lot of time to

:43:53. > :44:02.think. He kept asking daily and became aggressive at times. He said,

:44:03. > :44:06.I will have you followed, I will have somebody hurt your answer. He

:44:07. > :44:13.said, I know about your niece and nephew. Those threats really worried

:44:14. > :44:17.him and he claimed he eventually gave in to those threats and he

:44:18. > :44:21.agreed to bring in a mobile telephone for the prisoner. He got

:44:22. > :44:27.?500 for taking the package in. It is possible that package also

:44:28. > :44:33.contained the potent cannabis spice. He never looked inside it, but it is

:44:34. > :44:37.possible it contained drugs. In total he took in four packages for

:44:38. > :44:43.this prisoner. He said it was easy to get the parcels into prison.

:44:44. > :44:49.There was that point am I going to get somebody coming to my house?

:44:50. > :44:54.This gentleman was in prison for armed robbery. I did not know what

:44:55. > :45:01.he was capable of. Taking that flowed into the prison it was a

:45:02. > :45:05.calculated risk that that was not going to be the day that they

:45:06. > :45:09.decided they were going to do a Star search. I was playing it nice and

:45:10. > :45:14.cool and being normal walking through the gate. He was eventually

:45:15. > :45:19.caught. The conversations he was having with the prisoner aroused

:45:20. > :45:25.suspicions amongst the colleagues and he confessed in front of the

:45:26. > :45:27.governor and he was sentenced and he spent three months in prison and is

:45:28. > :45:43.now managing to rebuild his life. He led a national unit tackling

:45:44. > :45:47.corruption and describes it as an inconvenient truth. Also with us,

:45:48. > :45:52.Tracey McMann, who founded a project working with women transitioning out

:45:53. > :45:57.of jail and says the stories of contraband are rampant. And Mike is

:45:58. > :46:06.a prison officer and national chair for the union for prison officers.

:46:07. > :46:15.If you want to join us over here... John, how serious is this issue of

:46:16. > :46:21.corruption in jails? It is a very serious issue and is getting worse

:46:22. > :46:30.as we've lost staff. We've lost a lot of experience. What do we need

:46:31. > :46:34.to do about it? Acknowledge there is a problem. There is corruption in

:46:35. > :46:38.the media, in sport, why wouldn't there be corruption in prisons? We

:46:39. > :46:43.need to wake up and smell the copy. We need much more in the way of

:46:44. > :46:54.training and the way of resources. We need to investigate staff. How

:46:55. > :47:00.often are you pressurised into smuggling stuff into jail? It is

:47:01. > :47:10.true that there are periods where prisoners will try it on. Does it

:47:11. > :47:15.happen to you? Nine out of ten times it is a joke. It starts off as a

:47:16. > :47:21.joke. Most prison staff are trained to deal with it and I don't accept

:47:22. > :47:25.it is rife within presence. Most prison officers turn up because they

:47:26. > :47:37.are honest and have integrity. The last thing they want to do is see

:47:38. > :47:43.corruption and Co. Is round. The estimate is five in every prison.

:47:44. > :47:47.The vast majority are professional and full of integrity. There is a

:47:48. > :47:55.small minority, and they have a disproportionate effect. The working

:47:56. > :48:02.assumption is in every prison across England and Wales 3-5 staff are

:48:03. > :48:08.corrupt. That is out of a total workforce of 60,000. What are you

:48:09. > :48:19.being told about contraband inside? It is not a conversation that

:48:20. > :48:23.naturally emerges. Women who often come back to East Lancashire. These

:48:24. > :48:27.conversations, naturally, in their head, from what we are hearing and

:48:28. > :48:37.for anybody that knows about the prisoners, women make 5% of prison

:48:38. > :48:45.population. It is a scattered and fractured estate. The women coming

:48:46. > :48:59.back through the gates, often serving short sentences, there is a

:49:00. > :49:08.staff problem and a small... What other women telling you? It comes in

:49:09. > :49:12.through the post, to visitors, to counteract staff corruption, we are

:49:13. > :49:18.getting it through the mail and from visits, drugs are coming in, they

:49:19. > :49:28.are prescribed, but also heroin replacements, that is what we call

:49:29. > :49:38.currency within the present estate. Those are going round, selling for

:49:39. > :49:46.large amounts. It is easy to transport from one person to

:49:47. > :49:58.another. You don't need formal qualifications. You can... You will

:49:59. > :50:03.not find any sympathy from fellow prison staff. They will try to turn

:50:04. > :50:16.up and do their job with integrity. This undermines that. I think Tracy

:50:17. > :50:26.touches on some valid points. Prisoners sometimes will distracts

:50:27. > :50:30.from real trafficking routes, they are blaming staff because of two

:50:31. > :50:37.reasons, one because it takes the focus away from their activities and

:50:38. > :50:44.the prison staff but also it negates any sort of charges. The issue must

:50:45. > :50:48.be investigated. No charges are brought against the prisoner. Having

:50:49. > :50:52.been a prison governor at three prisons have you come across people

:50:53. > :51:00.who joined the prison service in order to make money this way? Being

:51:01. > :51:04.paid to smuggle stuff into prisons? I carried out an investigation when

:51:05. > :51:09.I was at Brixton and somebody joined who had been a prisoner two years

:51:10. > :51:16.beforehand. He was an illegal immigrant. Those cases RA. I think

:51:17. > :51:20.what this programme has highlighted is the vulnerability of staff. I

:51:21. > :51:26.would disagree with talk of training. The training is the

:51:27. > :51:33.shortest in the world. We should be in mind that the prison staff is not

:51:34. > :51:39.just people in uniform. The workforce is complex. I don't think

:51:40. > :51:48.any of those get any training at all to help them with the threat is

:51:49. > :51:53.highlighted in the programme. Thank you very much, everybody. Let me ask

:51:54. > :52:02.you before you go, the latest prison figures. These are compelled by the

:52:03. > :52:05.Council of Europe and they show that Britain imprisons more people than

:52:06. > :52:17.virtually any other country in Europe apart from Russia or Turkey,

:52:18. > :52:23.around 45 in the Council of Europe. A higher proportion of those in jail

:52:24. > :52:28.in England and Wales are six offenders, people sentenced for

:52:29. > :52:34.violence crimes and life imprisonment, much greater in the UK

:52:35. > :52:37.than elsewhere. Thank you for coming on the programme. Really appreciate

:52:38. > :52:48.it. Much more on corruption in jails. The investigation will be on

:52:49. > :52:52.Radio 4 tonight. The top court has ruled this morning that companies

:52:53. > :52:58.can ban staff from wearing religious or political symbols including

:52:59. > :53:04.headscarves. Our Paris correspondent can fill us in. This was a case

:53:05. > :53:10.featuring two women, one from France and one from Belgium. Tell us more.

:53:11. > :53:13.It very, the kid. I've been reading the ruling and it is impenetrable

:53:14. > :53:25.but I think I've got my brain round it. Ever-2-mac cases. One was a

:53:26. > :53:34.woman who worked as a receptionist. Back in 2006, she had a religious

:53:35. > :53:42.conversion, started wearing a headscarf and she was fired. The

:53:43. > :53:50.other case was a woman who worked as a consultant analyst and when a

:53:51. > :53:56.client said they wanted to have this woman without a headscarf, the

:53:57. > :54:04.company employer asked her to remove it, she refused and was sacked. In

:54:05. > :54:10.both cases it has gone to the High Court of two different countries,

:54:11. > :54:20.and said, we don't understand this directive. Can you give some

:54:21. > :54:28.guidance? It has not ruled in these cases and has given guidance. The

:54:29. > :54:41.guidance is that if there is a pre-existing rule in the company,

:54:42. > :54:48.that says you cannot show this display, then it is possible to ask

:54:49. > :54:57.a person to remove her headscarf but not possible on an ad hoc basis to

:54:58. > :55:02.produced this idea and say we are thinking that you are putting the

:55:03. > :55:10.clients off. It all comes down to this idea of whether there is a

:55:11. > :55:18.pre-existing policy. If there was, according to their interpretation,

:55:19. > :55:25.it is possible to insist that she take off the headscarf. Does it

:55:26. > :55:30.apply to the UK? Why not? As long as Britain was within the EU this

:55:31. > :55:40.ruling has application. Two things. This is guidance, not the court

:55:41. > :55:57.saying you've got it wrong. You interpret it your way. This is how

:55:58. > :56:08.we see the directive. These cases go back a decade or more. This kind of

:56:09. > :56:21.issue, it would drag on and drag on. By the time it came round, Britain

:56:22. > :56:27.might have left. Let us go. How do you react to this? I am frustrated

:56:28. > :56:36.and deeply disturbed by the guidance coming out of Europe at the moment.

:56:37. > :56:40.We were talking about headscarf is. It is not just about Muslim dress,

:56:41. > :56:45.it is about political and philosophical symbols. Which seemed

:56:46. > :56:56.to disproportionately involved cases of Muslim women. Looking at the

:56:57. > :57:08.stats, it disproportionately impact Muslim women more than men, the

:57:09. > :57:13.guidance it could have on our communities. What could it do? The

:57:14. > :57:19.message it sends out is that diversity is not welcome in Europe

:57:20. > :57:33.and if the concern is about national security I would say... You think if

:57:34. > :57:41.this is a case of women wearing crosses and the company asked them

:57:42. > :57:49.to remove it, strict company policy, you would feel the same? I would. I

:57:50. > :57:58.want to know how it is that these impact on a woman's ability to do

:57:59. > :58:04.their job. The second woman was an IT consultant. At no point was there

:58:05. > :58:08.a mention of their incompetency in the ability to do the job. That was

:58:09. > :58:13.what was most frustrating because women should not be discriminated

:58:14. > :58:18.against. The fact that they are women, who belong to particular

:58:19. > :58:21.thing, because of what they're wearing. I am going to pause you

:58:22. > :58:23.because it is the end of the programme but thank you so much

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