27/03/2017

:00:08. > :00:13.I am Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

:00:14. > :00:15.This morning, is this police risk assessment,

:00:16. > :00:22.Now this programme understands the Government is going

:00:23. > :00:38.I have done shows where it's not predominantly black form, I don't

:00:39. > :00:41.have to do the form. When I am performing in Oceania, it's

:00:42. > :00:42.middle-class white kids, certain areas don't have to do the form at

:00:43. > :00:47.all. an exclusive interview with a man

:00:48. > :00:51.who wants to change the law to allow which badly affect their quality

:00:52. > :00:55.of life to end their life We will bring you that exclusive

:00:56. > :01:22.interview after 10 am. And, you may think this is a video

:01:23. > :01:25.of Peppa Pig and is safe for your young child to watch

:01:26. > :01:27.on YouTube, but it fairly disturbing content not

:01:28. > :01:30.suitable for children. Throughout the morning

:01:31. > :01:42.the latest breaking news Later we will bring you more details

:01:43. > :01:49.on a story that two girls aged 10 were stopped from boarding

:01:50. > :01:52.a United Airlines flight because They were flying as guests

:01:53. > :02:00.of employees and were Today we want your examples

:02:01. > :02:04.of leggings discrimination. For some reason leggings

:02:05. > :02:05.really annoy people. Do get in touch on that

:02:06. > :02:09.and all the stories we are talking Use the hashtag Victoria live

:02:10. > :02:13.and if you text you will be charged Our top story today,

:02:14. > :02:16.Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary, Keir Starmer, has set

:02:17. > :02:18.the terms his party will judge whether to support

:02:19. > :02:23.any final Brexit deal. He announced six tests for Brexit,

:02:24. > :02:27.asking for a deal that delivers the same benefits as the UK

:02:28. > :02:41.currently enjoys as a member of Let's talk to Norman. What are the

:02:42. > :02:45.conditions? These are the tests Labour say will have to be met if

:02:46. > :02:49.they're going to vote for the deal that Theresa May comes back from her

:02:50. > :02:55.negotiations. We are now moving into the sort of second phase of Brexit,

:02:56. > :02:59.we are going to trigger Article 50 that begins the process, now we get

:03:00. > :03:03.into the deal-making. We heard from the head of the EU negotiating team

:03:04. > :03:07.this morning saying that Brexit bill, the amount of money we are

:03:08. > :03:12.going to have to pay is central to their negotiations. Labour setting

:03:13. > :03:14.out the six tests. Let me run through what they're suggesting

:03:15. > :03:19.Theresa May will have to secure agreement on. One, fair migration

:03:20. > :03:22.system, retaining a strong collaborative approach with the EU,

:03:23. > :03:27.protecting national security, delivering for all the UK,

:03:28. > :03:32.preventing a race to the bottom in terms of changes to workers' rights

:03:33. > :03:36.and ensuring exactly the same benefits as we currently enjoy as

:03:37. > :03:40.part of the single market. Keir Starmer also issued this warning to

:03:41. > :03:48.Theresa May, not to come back with no deal. Have a listen. Once a small

:03:49. > :03:54.minority in the Conservative Party, the Brexiteers are now in office and

:03:55. > :04:00.in power. This idealogically driven approach to Brexit will be

:04:01. > :04:05.disastrous and divisive and it would stand as a road block to continued

:04:06. > :04:12.co-operation in the important fields of technology, research, medicine,

:04:13. > :04:17.security, science, art and culture. The Prime Minister needs to face

:04:18. > :04:25.down these Brexiteers. Will Theresa May be able to meet the six tests?

:04:26. > :04:28.Most of them, yes, because they're slightly motherhood and apple pie.

:04:29. > :04:32.One of the tests which it seems will be difficult to meet, that's the one

:04:33. > :04:37.I talked about, having to ensure that the UK retains exactly the same

:04:38. > :04:40.benefits as we currently enjoy. When you think about it that's difficult

:04:41. > :04:45.because Theresa May has already said we are not going to be in the single

:04:46. > :04:49.market, not in the customs union, so having the same benefits is going to

:04:50. > :04:54.be very difficult indeed. Labour make the point it was David Davis,

:04:55. > :04:58.the Brexit Secretary who first suggested that's what the Government

:04:59. > :05:01.would try to achieve, that would seem to set the bar very high

:05:02. > :05:05.indeed. So, you are thinking at the moment it's going to be very tough

:05:06. > :05:09.for MrsMay to meet that which means Labour would, I expect, have to vote

:05:10. > :05:15.against the final Brexit deal. There's a long way to go, thank you

:05:16. > :05:22.very much. Now the rest of the morning's news.

:05:23. > :05:28.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, will meet European ministers today

:05:29. > :05:30.to discuss ways of preventing further terrorist attacks.

:05:31. > :05:33.She's called for the authorities

:05:34. > :05:35.to be given access to encrypted messaging services.

:05:36. > :05:36.The Westminster attacker, Khalid Masood, may have used

:05:37. > :05:38.WhatsApp shortly before he began his assault.

:05:39. > :05:40.This afternoon's deadline to form a new devolved

:05:41. > :05:43.government in Northern Ireland following the elections is likely

:05:44. > :05:46.Sinn Fein say they won't go into an executive led

:05:47. > :05:48.by the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster,

:05:49. > :05:50.while a public inquiry investigates her handling

:05:51. > :06:02.MPs must introduce tougher measures to tackle childhood obesity

:06:03. > :06:05.in England, including controlling supermarket price promotions on junk

:06:06. > :06:14.A report out today by the Health Select Committee argues

:06:15. > :06:16.missed several important opportunities and

:06:17. > :06:18.Here's our health correspondent Dominic Hughes.

:06:19. > :06:21.A levy on sugary drinks was the main element of the government's

:06:22. > :06:23.childhood obesity strategy when it was announced last year.

:06:24. > :06:26.While many health experts and campaigners said it was a start,

:06:27. > :06:28.they also thought the government could and should have gone further.

:06:29. > :06:32.Now a group of MPs has agreed that much more needs to be done

:06:33. > :06:35.In particular, they want action to curb discounts and price

:06:36. > :06:45.The committee also calls for clear goals on reducing overall levels

:06:46. > :06:49.of childhood obesity and for the levy on sugary drinks

:06:50. > :06:51.to be extended to milk-based products that have added sugar.

:06:52. > :06:53.We know that one in three 11-year-olds are overweight

:06:54. > :06:56.or obese, and that's not just about individual choices,

:06:57. > :06:58.it's about the environment that children are growing up

:06:59. > :07:01.in and really the key thing that's missing from the current strategy

:07:02. > :07:05.is regulation around marketing and the promotions to children.

:07:06. > :07:07.Representatives from the food industry itself told the committee

:07:08. > :07:11.that responsible retailers are being disadvantaged by those

:07:12. > :07:14.who continue to offer big discounts on food high in sugar and fat.

:07:15. > :07:18.In a statement, the Department of Health in England

:07:19. > :07:30.defended its use of a largely voluntary approach from the food

:07:31. > :07:33.industry to the reduction of sugar and fat, and said ministers had not

:07:34. > :07:35.ruled out further measures if results are not seen.

:07:36. > :07:37.But the MPs argue the situation with childhood obesity

:07:38. > :07:39.is so serious and urgent, ministers need to take

:07:40. > :07:56.We will be talking to one of the MPs involved in that report and some

:07:57. > :08:04.moneys later here on the programme. BT has been fined a record

:08:05. > :08:06.42 million pounds by It found BT's Openreach division had

:08:07. > :08:10.cut compensation payments to other telecoms providers for delays

:08:11. > :08:12.in installing high speed business lines.The company said it

:08:13. > :08:14."apologised wholeheartedly" There are claims that changes

:08:15. > :08:20.to disability benefits, called personal independent

:08:21. > :08:22.payments, could lead to an increase The government has reversed a court

:08:23. > :08:31.ruling which would have allowed more issues who suffer distress

:08:32. > :08:38.when they travel alone. Nobody who already gets

:08:39. > :08:41.the benefit will see a cut. And more on that later in the

:08:42. > :08:46.programme. Nine out of 10 local

:08:47. > :08:48.authorities in England are increasing their level

:08:49. > :08:50.of council tax from April, Residents in some areas

:08:51. > :08:54.will see their bills rise by the maxiumum 5%, as councils

:08:55. > :08:57.use new powers to top up their charges with money

:08:58. > :08:59.ring-fenced for social care. Only 22 councils out of 353

:09:00. > :09:02.in England are freezing council tax in the next financial year according

:09:03. > :09:14.to the Press Association. The government is to respond

:09:15. > :09:16.to fears a police risk assessment form has been used in a "racist" way

:09:17. > :09:19.to target grime artists. Promoters and licensees in many

:09:20. > :09:22.areas are asked to complete a Form 696 before hosting some music events

:09:23. > :09:24.featuring "DJs and Mcs". Culture Minister Matt Hancock

:09:25. > :09:27.is set to raise concerns with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use

:09:28. > :09:30.of the form in London. The Met Police denies

:09:31. > :09:31.the voluntary form targets We have a special report on that

:09:32. > :09:44.coming up. A man is seeking to take his case

:09:45. > :09:47.to the High Court to change the law on assisted Suicide

:09:48. > :09:49.which is currently The 54-year-old father,

:09:50. > :09:52.who cannot be identified by name, was diagnosed in 2014

:09:53. > :09:55.with a rare degenerative disease. His illness is not terminal,

:09:56. > :09:57.but means he is largely confined to his bed

:09:58. > :09:59.and he needs constant care. The judgement is expected to be

:10:00. > :10:07.announced in the coming days. And we have an exclusive interview

:10:08. > :10:12.on this programme. An American airline has been

:10:13. > :10:15.criticised after two young girls were stopped from boarding a flight

:10:16. > :10:17.because they were wearing leggings. The incident at the airport was seen

:10:18. > :10:20.by another passenger, who took to social media to tweet

:10:21. > :10:22.United Airlines. The airline responded

:10:23. > :10:24.by saying they had the right to refuse passengers for not

:10:25. > :10:30.following their dress code. They later clarified that the girls

:10:31. > :10:33.were not on a general ticket and had That's a summary of the latest BBC

:10:34. > :10:41.News - more at 9.30am. Let's get some sport.

:10:42. > :10:43.Olly Foster is with us. Three wins out of three for the home

:10:44. > :10:46.nations playing World Cup qualifiers yesterday,

:10:47. > :10:57.but Jermain Defoe and a young boy Good morning. Yes, they forged a

:10:58. > :11:02.Premiership and friendship. Jermaine Defoe and Bradley, who is five years

:11:03. > :11:07.old and has a terminal disease. He has cancer and Sunderland the club

:11:08. > :11:10.have been giving him and his family lots of support and Jermaine Defoe

:11:11. > :11:15.at 34 was recalled to the England squad for the firs time in over

:11:16. > :11:20.three years and there he is with Bradley and Joe Hart pushing

:11:21. > :11:25.Jermaine Defoe out first. Joe Hart given the captaincy but says you

:11:26. > :11:30.lead Bradley out. A special night for Bradley and Jermaine Defoe, as

:11:31. > :11:34.well. Would you believe it, Defoe actually scored England's first

:11:35. > :11:38.against Lithuania. It wasn't a great match this World Cup qualifier. But

:11:39. > :11:44.a lovely finish and the manager says if he keeps on scoring there is no

:11:45. > :11:49.reason why he can't go and play in Russia next summer. Jamie Vardy

:11:50. > :11:55.scored their second. 2-0. England remain unbeaten and top of their

:11:56. > :12:03.group. The match wasn't great but lovely scenes before, very poignant.

:12:04. > :12:09.Gordon Strachan has more time in the Scotland job. It was the expectation

:12:10. > :12:14.that had Scotland not won against Slovenia that would have pretty much

:12:15. > :12:20.made it very difficult for them to qualify. But Chris Martin who came

:12:21. > :12:31.on in the last eight minutes was booed, a lot of affect Scotland

:12:32. > :12:35.fans. He scored that late winner. Now a couple of points behind second

:12:36. > :12:40.place in that all-important play-off spot. Let's hear from Gordon

:12:41. > :12:46.Strachan who has still got himself a Scotland job. All you can ask as a

:12:47. > :12:53.manager is do certain things, they did they were asked. They pushed

:12:54. > :12:57.themselves another level there. So I was calm enough, what will be will

:12:58. > :13:03.be. But I was enjoying their performance as a manager.

:13:04. > :13:07.So Scotland now fourth in that group. A couple of points in

:13:08. > :13:08.England's group, but still going strong. Their next match is against

:13:09. > :13:11.England in June. Northern Ireland are still going

:13:12. > :13:20.strong in their group. Michael O'Neill says remember we got

:13:21. > :13:26.to France at the Euros and that's driving them on trying to get to

:13:27. > :13:30.back-to-back major championships and eight unbeaten now at Windsor Park.

:13:31. > :13:36.They were playing Norway and they won 2-0. It helped that they scored

:13:37. > :13:41.inside a couple of minutes. They were 2-0 up by half-time. Connor

:13:42. > :13:47.Washington with their second. A lovely finish. Northern Ireland

:13:48. > :13:51.making it a clean sweep for the home nations yesterday. Wales getting

:13:52. > :14:00.that draw last week in the Republic. Thank you.

:14:01. > :14:02.This is a police event risk assessment form known as Form 696.

:14:03. > :14:06.Clubs and bars who want to put on an event with a DJ or an MC

:14:07. > :14:09.performing to a backing track are asked to fill it out.

:14:10. > :14:11.It's been used in London by the Metropolitan Police

:14:12. > :14:14.for a number of years but has been branded racist and divisive

:14:15. > :14:16.because people in the music industry feel it targets music performed

:14:17. > :14:19.by black and Asian artists - whereas pop or rock acts don't

:14:20. > :14:24.And depending on what goes on that form, police can shut down events

:14:25. > :14:26.they think pose too high a risk to those attending.

:14:27. > :14:28.Now this programme understands that the Culture Minister Matt Hancock

:14:29. > :14:34.is set to raise concerns with London Mayor Sadiq Khan

:14:35. > :14:39.We've also discovered some police forces outside of London still ask

:14:40. > :14:47.for the ethnic make-up of the audience attending

:14:48. > :14:50.and the music genre being played at an event, on the form.

:14:51. > :14:52.Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu's been looking into this one,

:14:53. > :14:56.and a warning, this piece does contain some flash photography.

:14:57. > :14:58.If you submit your details through a 696 and an event gets

:14:59. > :15:01.shut down, you kind of know it's the police.

:15:02. > :15:03.We don't question it no more, we just know they're just trying

:15:04. > :15:09.There should be a review of the whole 696 process.

:15:10. > :15:16.So would you say that form 696 is racist?

:15:17. > :15:22.It's all like a big tidal wave of positive things,

:15:23. > :15:24.that's why I'm not complaining, it's a lot, but it's

:15:25. > :15:33.all great things, it's all blessings, yeah, so...

:15:34. > :15:37.Stormzy hit number one with his debut album Gang Signs

:15:38. > :15:39.Prayers a couple of weeks back, and broke records, including racking

:15:40. > :15:42.up the most first-week streams for a number one album

:15:43. > :15:47.Attention is so strong on grime right now, when he freestyled about

:15:48. > :15:50.the Brits failing to acknowledge anyone from it in 2016, Brits bosses

:15:51. > :15:59.called him in and changed their voting structure.

:16:00. > :16:03.Grime's exploded, it's absolutely exploded.

:16:04. > :16:06.There's been a massive explosion in consumption,

:16:07. > :16:10.in the retention rate of people that are coming across the grime shutdown

:16:11. > :16:12.platform, and the people that are searching for grime artists.

:16:13. > :16:14.If you look at someone like Skepta, for example,

:16:15. > :16:16.or someone like Stormzy, they get several millions

:16:17. > :16:22.# You're getting way too big for your boots.

:16:23. > :16:28.# I've got the big size 12s on my feet...#.

:16:29. > :16:30.I would say grime is like a musical representation

:16:31. > :16:33.Like, so, it's fast-tempo, it's high-energy, it's an attitude,

:16:34. > :16:37.It's fashion, it's the way we speak, all rolled

:16:38. > :16:39.into like 140-bpm electronic dance hall-inspired fusion.

:16:40. > :16:45.You've got to listen to it, you've got to experience

:16:46. > :16:52.it to fully understand what it is, yeah?

:16:53. > :16:55.One way to experience grime, like all genres of music,

:16:56. > :17:02.But people in the industry say that this form used in London,

:17:03. > :17:03.known as the Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk

:17:04. > :17:05.assessment form 696, is stopping those experiences,

:17:06. > :17:16.Because DJs and MCs performing to a backing track have

:17:17. > :17:19.to fill out this form, so that can be things like garage,

:17:20. > :17:22.R, grime - predominantly music enjoyed and performed

:17:23. > :17:29.Other genres like pop or rock don't have to fill out a special

:17:30. > :17:31.risk assessment form, and even though it's

:17:32. > :17:33.voluntary in theory, those who do have to fill it

:17:34. > :17:39.It was an idea that you'd be able to identify

:17:40. > :17:46.So would you say that form 696 is racist?

:17:47. > :17:51.If an artist seems to have a following where there's

:17:52. > :17:54.a lot of incidents occur, or if an artist is seen

:17:55. > :18:00.as proclaiming, encouraging a certain kind of dynamic

:18:01. > :18:03.with different groups or what people call gangs coming together,

:18:04. > :18:07.they are seen as a problem and they are then identified,

:18:08. > :18:10.and I think that that's a way that people see the 696 form can work

:18:11. > :18:17.People get into habits and they start hearing certain

:18:18. > :18:21.things and then they think that this music means there's going to be more

:18:22. > :18:23.problems because it's going to mean these types of people.

:18:24. > :18:26.So actually the form isn't a racist form, the form is a form.

:18:27. > :18:29.It's sad to say, but I do feel it is.

:18:30. > :18:36.In my experience, when it's normally a night where it is predominantly

:18:37. > :18:39.black people, without fail 696 form comes out of nowhere, have to do it.

:18:40. > :18:41.When I've done shows where it's not predominantly black

:18:42. > :18:43.people, I don't have to do the form.

:18:44. > :18:46.When I'm performing in Oceana, it is mainly like middle class

:18:47. > :18:49.or upper class white kids and stuff, certain unis, certain cities,

:18:50. > :18:52.certain areas don't have to do the form at all.

:18:53. > :18:56.To me, it does feel like a race thing.

:18:57. > :19:00.Just going back again to the wording of the form,

:19:01. > :19:03.like it's implicitly explicit, if that makes sense?

:19:04. > :19:05.Like, you're targeting a specific genre of music that you know

:19:06. > :19:07.a certain demographic is going to listen to.

:19:08. > :19:10.You haven't written anything about any other type of demographic.

:19:11. > :19:12.They can say it's not racist, but it's definitely targeted, which,

:19:13. > :19:18.So let's be clear on how form 696 is supposed to work.

:19:19. > :19:23.You want to put on a gig featuring, let's say, Stormzy.

:19:24. > :19:27.He's an artist that would MC, spit bars, rap to a backing track

:19:28. > :19:31.Details needed include the venue, the promoter, name of the event,

:19:32. > :19:35.Stormzy's real name, date of birth and address.

:19:36. > :19:38.That's then sent to the Metropolitan Police's central licensing team,

:19:39. > :19:41.and the Met told us they do research with the information

:19:42. > :19:44.They wouldn't go into detail, but it's likely to include

:19:45. > :19:51.The gradings can go from low risk to medium to high,

:19:52. > :19:54.but again police wouldn't tell us what constitutes a high,

:19:55. > :20:00.That grade is then sent to the venue and to the local

:20:01. > :20:03.licensing police unit, and according to the Metropolitan Police it's then

:20:04. > :20:07.up to the venue or the promoter, or the local licensing police unit,

:20:08. > :20:15.Last year, a club in Croydon in London hit the headlines

:20:16. > :20:20.after it was revealed that, through form 696, police had told

:20:21. > :20:24.the owner to ban bashment, a form of Jamaican music.

:20:25. > :20:36.I received this letter from them, and it said that bashment

:20:37. > :20:39.plays unacceptable forms of music and that if we continue to play it

:20:40. > :20:40.we'd literally risk losing our business.

:20:41. > :20:43.We were told that bashment may attract the wrong type of people.

:20:44. > :20:46.I don't think they actually wanted to see too many black people

:20:47. > :20:50.At the time, police disputed that was the case and the club has

:20:51. > :20:52.remained open after many local people protested.

:20:53. > :20:59.My birthday bash was nearly shut down unless I took an artist off.

:21:00. > :21:02.It turned out to be because his brother had some sort of court case.

:21:03. > :21:06.They said, yeah, basically he had to come off

:21:07. > :21:08.otherwise your birthday bash isn't going to happen,

:21:09. > :21:13.so I actually had to take him off the line-up.

:21:14. > :21:15.I've definitely been booked at an event where

:21:16. > :21:18.the promoter's like, last-minute, more time

:21:19. > :21:21.on the day had to say, "Can't put this event on no more,

:21:22. > :21:23.police have said no, we haven't got a reason why."

:21:24. > :21:25.The Metropolitan Police refused to do an interview with this

:21:26. > :21:28.programme on form 696, but they did answer a variety

:21:29. > :21:30.of questions, including some sent in via a Freedom

:21:31. > :21:38.We found that they have reviewed nearly 2,500 696s since 2016 alone,

:21:39. > :21:49.Through an FOI with the Met, this programme has discovered

:21:50. > :21:52.that the form encourages licensed venues, police and local authorities

:21:53. > :21:57.It gives licensees up-to-date information about past

:21:58. > :22:00.and future promotions, plus it helps reduce crime

:22:01. > :22:09.But the Met said it's rare for police to advise that

:22:10. > :22:15.If you say it straight, you do not get more crime with young

:22:16. > :22:18.black men than you do with young white men or anyone else.

:22:19. > :22:21.When there's an incident, it tags a whole genre

:22:22. > :22:27.It's a bit like saying, well, we're not going to have rock

:22:28. > :22:30.and roll or any music whatsoever of any kind because some guys

:22:31. > :22:32.from Essex or from Hampstead have had a punch-up

:22:33. > :22:35.You can't then say, "We're not going to have any

:22:36. > :22:43.And that's where the tension lies, you know?

:22:44. > :22:46.The Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk assessment form 696

:22:47. > :22:51.was introduced in London back in 2005 after police said club

:22:52. > :22:54.owners and promoters were concerned over a spate of violent attacks

:22:55. > :22:58.at venues around the capital in the early noughties.

:22:59. > :23:01.So are gigs where someone performs to a backing track more likely

:23:02. > :23:07.The only figures we have are from 2009, when police looked

:23:08. > :23:16.This 2009 review looked at violent crime linked to pubs and clubs

:23:17. > :23:22.Officers looked at reports in particular of serious violent

:23:23. > :23:23.crime, things like murder, GBH, threats to kill.

:23:24. > :23:27.They also looked at crimes where a weapon had been used

:23:28. > :23:29.and also where there'd been group fights.

:23:30. > :23:36.All of these events were listed as having a variety of music styles.

:23:37. > :23:39.The review says funk, house, Indian, pop.

:23:40. > :23:42.At the top of the list, with 48 events where there

:23:43. > :23:48.were serious violent incidents, was music which included R

:23:49. > :23:55.And in at number three was pop, with 31 events which had had

:23:56. > :24:10.Now, let's look at the list below that - all variety of music going.

:24:11. > :24:13.The other interesting thing that the review found

:24:14. > :24:17.was that the victims of these crimes were largely white Europeans, and it

:24:18. > :24:22.But, despite that evidence, the review still concluded

:24:23. > :24:25.that the likely profile of the music events where a serious violent

:24:26. > :24:28.or weapon-related crime happened was with recorded music, DJs,

:24:29. > :24:37.and the music type of R, house, funky house and similar.

:24:38. > :24:39.Now, despite a recommendation to, there has not been a review

:24:40. > :24:44.And when we asked, police were unable to update us with more

:24:45. > :24:46.recent figures of crime linked to pubs and clubs

:24:47. > :24:53.A bunch of young men all dressed in black dancing extremely

:24:54. > :24:59.It made me feel so intimidated, and it's just not what I expect

:25:00. > :25:08.In a statement, they said the 2009 review was done

:25:09. > :25:13.by the clubs and vice unit, which no longer exists,

:25:14. > :25:16.and that they now run regular forums where promoters are able to exchange

:25:17. > :25:18.views and air grievances, as well as meetings for those

:25:19. > :25:25.We asked to see the minutes of those meetings and the Met told us

:25:26. > :25:28.they were private one-to-ones, so we asked to see the minutes

:25:29. > :25:31.of the forum meetings, and the Met said if we wanted any

:25:32. > :25:33.more information we'd have to submit a Freedom

:25:34. > :25:40.of Information request, so we have.

:25:41. > :25:42.And they said they are confident the majority understand

:25:43. > :25:53.There's trouble at all types of gigs.

:25:54. > :25:56.And I know for a fact many other different types of genres and gigs

:25:57. > :26:02.Say, for example, Ed Sheeran had a show and a fight broke out -

:26:03. > :26:05.he's not going to do a 696 form on his next arena tour.

:26:06. > :26:10.There's situations everywhere, whether it's punk,

:26:11. > :26:13.Things can happen in places, so if you're going to do

:26:14. > :26:16.that to protect people, it should be for every single club.

:26:17. > :26:29.It's not just these ones that have problems.

:26:30. > :26:32.But grime isn't just a London thing, it's found love up and down the UK,

:26:33. > :26:34.in places like South Yorkshire, the Midlands, even here

:26:35. > :26:41.And now this programme can confirm that there are forces across England

:26:42. > :26:45.that have their own version of a promotion risk assessment form,

:26:46. > :26:48.or they've taken the questions from the Met version and added them

:26:49. > :26:56.They basically said, "We've got to take off these grime acts."

:26:57. > :26:59.We never actually get to talk to the police,

:27:00. > :27:01.they don't really respond to the artist at all.

:27:02. > :27:04.It's almost as if they don't have to tell us why.

:27:05. > :27:06.For me, that's wrong, because at least if we know why,

:27:07. > :27:10.then we know how to change it or how to go about it.

:27:11. > :27:12.We wanted to know whether forces England have their own version

:27:13. > :27:14.of the Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk

:27:15. > :27:16.assessment form 696, so we asked them and,

:27:17. > :27:20.of those that responded, we now know that at least 15

:27:21. > :27:23.have their own version, or have taken questions

:27:24. > :27:28.from the Met's one and added them to a generic risk assessment form.

:27:29. > :27:33.Bedfordshire Police actually ask for the music genre

:27:34. > :27:36.being played at an event, and they warn that if you don't fill

:27:37. > :27:38.out their form correctly it could jeopardise future events

:27:39. > :27:42.Leicestershire Police ask for a music genre,

:27:43. > :27:45.but they also ask for the ethnic make-up of the audience,

:27:46. > :27:48.and they also want to know the dress code.

:27:49. > :27:50.And Nottinghamshire Police say they are open to

:27:51. > :27:58.We generally know what the ethnic make-up's going to be

:27:59. > :28:00.from what comes in anyway, so, you know.

:28:01. > :28:04.It's about those types of events that bring certain risks,

:28:05. > :28:09.and it's not necessarily any particular genre of music,

:28:10. > :28:13.although there are particular performers that have a following

:28:14. > :28:20.that bring with them a certain amount of problems.

:28:21. > :28:23.By risk-assessing them, we can then make sure

:28:24. > :28:27.that we identify problems, work with promoters and venues

:28:28. > :28:31.to make sure that all of the mitigation is in place

:28:32. > :28:34.to prevent those incidents happening, or at least to minimise

:28:35. > :28:44.wherever possible the risk of those serious incidents happening.

:28:45. > :28:46.# You trying to say he's better than me?

:28:47. > :28:59.We did ask a number of promoters and venue owners to appear in this

:29:00. > :29:02.film, but a lot said no over fears that they or their event

:29:03. > :29:05.might become a target, because for years there's been

:29:06. > :29:07.rumours about a police blacklist with acts, their followers

:29:08. > :29:14.# On stage at the Brits I'm a back-up dancer.

:29:15. > :29:17.# If that makes me a back-up dancer, the man in your vids?

:29:18. > :29:21.Now some licensees are telling us that they are having constructive

:29:22. > :29:23.conversations with the police over form 696, and,

:29:24. > :29:25.to quote one promoter, on ways to get around the system.

:29:26. > :29:28.That same promoter, though, asks, why should he have

:29:29. > :29:42.We've been talking to central licensing and we've done some good

:29:43. > :29:45.work with initiating a conversation, because we said that there's a real

:29:46. > :29:47.concern around 696s, and particularly how it plays out

:29:48. > :29:49.with certain genres of music and certain demographics,

:29:50. > :29:54.particularly around grime and garage.

:29:55. > :29:57.And we've bought some managers and labels in together

:29:58. > :29:59.with the promoters and said that we would address it,

:30:00. > :30:04.We actually think there should be a review of the whole 696 process.

:30:05. > :30:10.We think that it's got challenges, and it's flawed.

:30:11. > :30:17.But, despite that, and the intervention

:30:18. > :30:19.of the Culture Minister, there are no plans to

:30:20. > :30:46.Your views on this are, of course, welcome.

:30:47. > :30:51.This comment, isn't the form basically a form of racial

:30:52. > :30:55.profiling? Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush. Nightlife is

:30:56. > :31:00.struggling as it is. This tweet, the nature of the event including the

:31:01. > :31:09.genre is a relevant risk assessment criteria. Gail says on Twitter,

:31:10. > :31:14.there is a discriminatory element to this form, keep people safe but it's

:31:15. > :31:19.too far. Another says, some musics attracts people that are attracted

:31:20. > :31:24.to knife, guns and violence, so it's a sensible form. The.

:31:25. > :31:26.The Met say the form doesn't target any particular group -

:31:27. > :31:29.Leicestershire police say their form is under review and some

:31:30. > :31:34.The Mayor of London's office say it's very rare for police to assess

:31:35. > :31:37.After 10am, we'll speak to grime act Post Diddy.

:31:38. > :31:41.The online videos that mimic popular children's

:31:42. > :31:43.programmes like Peppa Pig - but deliver disturbing content.

:31:44. > :31:45.We'll look at what's being done to combat the problem.

:31:46. > :31:48.And we'll discuss how proposed cuts to disability payments

:31:49. > :31:50.are affecting the disabled - ahead of a vote on the

:31:51. > :32:15.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:32:16. > :32:17.will judge on whether to support any final Brexit deal.

:32:18. > :32:20.He announced six tests for Brexit - asking for a deal that delivers

:32:21. > :32:23.the same benefits as the UK currently enjoys as a member of

:32:24. > :32:29.Once a small minority in the Conservative Party, the Brexiteers

:32:30. > :32:38.This ideologically-driven approach to Brexit would be

:32:39. > :32:41.And it would stand as a roadblock to continued co-operation

:32:42. > :32:43.in the important fields of technology, research, medicine,

:32:44. > :32:58.The Prime Minister needs to face down these Brexiteers.

:32:59. > :33:00.And later today we'll be putting your questions to BBC

:33:01. > :33:02.journalists on the triggering of Article 50.

:33:03. > :33:12.Throughout the day, we'll be speaking with our

:33:13. > :33:15.Europe editor Katya Adler and economics editor Kamal Ahmed.

:33:16. > :33:18.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

:33:19. > :33:22.Theresa May will meet Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later

:33:23. > :33:24.today for the first time since she rejected calls

:33:25. > :33:25.for a second referendum on Scottish independence.

:33:26. > :33:29.The Prime Minister's visit is part of a tour of all four nations

:33:30. > :33:31.of the UK before the process of leaving the European Union

:33:32. > :33:36.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, will meet European ministers today

:33:37. > :33:38.to discuss ways of preventing further terrorist attacks.

:33:39. > :33:41.She's called for the authorities to be given access

:33:42. > :33:45.The Westminster attacker, Khalid Masood, may have used

:33:46. > :34:05.WhatsApp shortly before he began his assault.

:34:06. > :34:07.The government is to respond to fears a police risk assessment

:34:08. > :34:10.form has been used in a "racist" way to target grime artists.

:34:11. > :34:13.Promoters and licensees in many areas are asked to complete a Form

:34:14. > :34:15.696 before hosting some music events featuring "DJs and Mcs".

:34:16. > :34:18.Culture Minister Matt Hancock is set to raise concerns

:34:19. > :34:20.with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use of the form in London.

:34:21. > :34:22.The Met Police denies the voluntary form targets

:34:23. > :34:25.This afternoon's deadline to form a new devolved

:34:26. > :34:27.government in Northern Ireland following the elections is likely

:34:28. > :34:31.Sinn Fein say they won't go into an executive led

:34:32. > :34:33.by the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster,

:34:34. > :34:35.while a public inquiry investigates her handling

:34:36. > :34:48.A man is seeking to take his case to the High Court to change

:34:49. > :34:50.the law on assisted Suicide which is currently

:34:51. > :34:53.The 54-year-old father, who cannot be identified by name,

:34:54. > :35:02.was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare degenerative disease.

:35:03. > :35:05.His illness is not terminal, but means he is largely

:35:06. > :35:07.confined to his bed and he needs constant care.

:35:08. > :35:09.The judgement is expected to be announced in the coming days.

:35:10. > :35:12.An American airline has been criticised after two young girls

:35:13. > :35:14.were stopped from boarding a flight because they were wearing leggings.

:35:15. > :35:17.The incident at the airport was seen by another passenger,

:35:18. > :35:19.who took to social media to tweet United Airlines.

:35:20. > :35:21.The airline responded by saying they had the right

:35:22. > :35:24.to refuse passengers for not following their dress code.

:35:25. > :35:27.They later clarified that the girls were not on a general ticket and had

:35:28. > :35:38.But apparently their dad was able to get on wearing shorts. Something

:35:39. > :35:42.about leggings annoys people so much, I don't know if people think

:35:43. > :35:46.if you are wearing them you are lazy or you can't wear them if you are

:35:47. > :35:50.too curvy. People discriminate against leggings and it needs to

:35:51. > :35:54.stop. I frequently wear leggings, isn't it comfort first on a plane,

:35:55. > :35:58.that's the most important thing, surely. We will talk more about that

:35:59. > :35:59.later. If you have your own examples, let me know. Now the

:36:00. > :36:19.latest sport. England won 2-0 against Lithuania,

:36:20. > :36:26.Jermaine deforewith his first appearance in three years and

:36:27. > :36:31.scoring. Jamie Vardy also scored. Scotland, and Chris Martin scored in

:36:32. > :36:37.the 88th minute. They're two points off a possible play-off spot.

:36:38. > :36:47.Northern Ireland remain second in their group behind Germany. They had

:36:48. > :36:56.a 2-0 win. Andy Murray is unlikely to be fit for the Davis Cup tie.

:36:57. > :36:59.He has a tear in his elbow and needs rest. I will be back with more sport

:37:00. > :37:06.after 10am. This morning, claims that changes

:37:07. > :37:09.to disability benefits called called personal independence payments,

:37:10. > :37:11.or PIPs will lead to an increase The government has reversed a court

:37:12. > :37:16.ruling which would have seen more people able to claim

:37:17. > :37:18.Personal Independence Payments - people with severe mental health

:37:19. > :37:20.issues who suffer distress Nobody who already gets

:37:21. > :37:24.the benefit will see a cut. Earlier this month we heard

:37:25. > :37:25.from Brian Rollinson, who lives with PTSD after serving

:37:26. > :37:28.in the army in Northern I don't think that these people

:37:29. > :37:39.making these decisions It was a very difficult

:37:40. > :37:47.time yet again. Because of what I had

:37:48. > :37:55.to go through in the last couple of years I didn't

:37:56. > :37:57.want to be here any more, I think

:37:58. > :37:59.that speaks for itself without

:38:00. > :38:00.me saying those words, but this really

:38:01. > :38:08.got me down, it really did. And I think ministers,

:38:09. > :38:10.government, need to have a look at the

:38:11. > :38:12.system in Hull Peers in the House of Lords

:38:13. > :38:19.will try to force a vote on the issue today; let's talk

:38:20. > :38:22.to Lib Dem peer Baroness Thomas, Celia Thomas - a member of the House

:38:23. > :38:25.of Lords and and one of those opposed to what the

:38:26. > :38:33.government has done. Good morning. What is it you are

:38:34. > :38:38.objecting to specifically? Well, what we are objecting to is the

:38:39. > :38:45.Government very quickly is seeking to overturn the two very carefully

:38:46. > :38:52.considered judgments of the upper tier Tribunal by bringing in new

:38:53. > :38:56.regulations to make it much harder for people with a very overwhelming

:38:57. > :39:03.psychological distress in their impairment. They are not going to be

:39:04. > :39:09.able to get higher rates mobility from PIP if they go out on a journey

:39:10. > :39:13.alone. The Government are overturning this, they're still

:39:14. > :39:17.appealing the decision, so they don't have to do this, what they're

:39:18. > :39:25.doing now, they don't have to do it quite so fast. They're doing it

:39:26. > :39:30.without consultation. They've just brought in the regulations and we

:39:31. > :39:37.think that they should consult more, they should consider it more. After

:39:38. > :39:40.all, this judgment was a carefully reached one and they're saying no,

:39:41. > :39:46.we don't think the judge has got it right. So your vote today, what

:39:47. > :39:50.would it achieve, assuming you win the vote, which is unlikely, unless

:39:51. > :39:57.Labour peers in the House of Lords support you? We would be able to get

:39:58. > :40:01.rid of the regulations. The Government could introduce them

:40:02. > :40:10.tomorrow or new ones tomorrow, but we would get rid of these particular

:40:11. > :40:15.ones today. The Government claims that if these changes, if they -

:40:16. > :40:20.they've ignored the two judgments. They say if they follow what the

:40:21. > :40:24.judgment say it's going to cost ?3. 7 billion in extra spending by 2023.

:40:25. > :40:29.That's an enormous sum of money. It is, but that's a long time in the

:40:30. > :40:34.future. You could say all sorts of spending is going to go up by that

:40:35. > :40:40.amount if you go far enough into the future. We have got an ageing

:40:41. > :40:45.society. What we don't want is for disabled people to be isolated in

:40:46. > :40:50.their houses because they can't afford to have somebody with them or

:40:51. > :40:54.to get a taxi to go even on a familiar journey and a lot of people

:40:55. > :40:57.are in that position. Do you think what the Government has done will

:40:58. > :41:05.lead to an increase in mental health problems? I do, because it really

:41:06. > :41:09.will isolate people. The Government think that people can find a

:41:10. > :41:15.strategy around this problem. Well, the strategy a lot of disabled

:41:16. > :41:19.people find is to stay put. Stay in their home. Stay where they know

:41:20. > :41:25.they're safe and not to worry. And we are not talking about just a bit

:41:26. > :41:32.of anxiety or a bit of stress, we are talking about people who have

:41:33. > :41:39.overwhelming psychological distress and some of the groups, the

:41:40. > :41:45.impairment groups that speak up for these people, Mind, Mencap, all

:41:46. > :41:53.sorts are saying don't do this. Here is a statement from the disabilities

:41:54. > :41:57.Minister, she said that PIPs were designed to give non-physical

:41:58. > :42:01.conditions the same recognition as physical ones, but added, now over

:42:02. > :42:08.two thirds of claimants with mental health conditions get the higher

:42:09. > :42:12.daily living award. Well, if they're reassessed some people only have

:42:13. > :42:18.their PIP assessment, only have their award for a year. The next

:42:19. > :42:24.time they're assessed it might be in a few months' time, might be next

:42:25. > :42:28.year, under the new regulations they won't get the higher rate. They

:42:29. > :42:34.might get the lower rate but they won't get the higher rate. So the

:42:35. > :42:40.Government has changed the policy although they say they haven't. What

:42:41. > :42:43.they have done, are you clear, do you believe that it means there is

:42:44. > :42:48.not parity between mental health and physical health? This is exactly

:42:49. > :42:54.what the judgment wanted to ensure and what the Government are now

:42:55. > :42:59.overturning. There is no longer parity. And this is something the

:43:00. > :43:03.Government were very proud that PIP did give parity of esteem to mental

:43:04. > :43:10.and physical health and my colleague in the Commons, Norman Lamb has made

:43:11. > :43:13.a really big campaign that the Government should do this, put their

:43:14. > :43:14.money where their mouth is and this is them doing the opposite. Thank

:43:15. > :43:21.you very much. It's Peppa Pig, but

:43:22. > :43:24.not as you know it. We'll look at the disturbing

:43:25. > :43:26.trend of fake children's programmes delivering

:43:27. > :43:31.disturbing content online. It can feel like a challenge to eat

:43:32. > :43:34.healthily when the food that's the most affordable,

:43:35. > :43:37.is often also the most unhealthy; when supermarkets add the big

:43:38. > :43:39.discounts to the stuff we know Today a group of MPs has attacked

:43:40. > :43:43.the Government for not doing more to stop this,

:43:44. > :43:46.and says it could be It wants ministers to reduce

:43:47. > :43:49.the number of cut-price and multi-buy offers on unhealthy

:43:50. > :43:51.food, saying the government's official obesity plan

:43:52. > :43:56.contains vague statements One quick example is that most

:43:57. > :44:01.supermarkets sell packs of eight chocolate bars for just ?1,

:44:02. > :44:05.whereas a bag of apples A third of ten-year-olds in England

:44:06. > :44:13.is overweight or obese. The head of the MPs committee

:44:14. > :44:18.who published that report, Conservative Sarah

:44:19. > :44:24.Wollaston, is with us. Meliny Tim and Jo Nicholas both work

:44:25. > :44:28.in helping people to eat healthily so that they can avoid

:44:29. > :44:34.the cheap option. Hello all of you. This is the

:44:35. > :44:37.committee's second report, a follow-up to what you published

:44:38. > :44:43.previously. The Government responded to that first one with a sugary

:44:44. > :44:48.drinks tax. That was sort of it. What else do you want? We know there

:44:49. > :44:51.are around 37% of what we buy is bought on these deep discounts and

:44:52. > :44:55.promotions and we would like to see a rebalancing of that so that more

:44:56. > :45:04.of them are on healthier food and like to see an end to the check-out

:45:05. > :45:08.chicanes where people have to pass through long stretches of getting to

:45:09. > :45:11.the tills of unhealthy food and snacks, it's about rebalancing and

:45:12. > :45:17.taking the British cycling approach, if you like, the marginal gains. So

:45:18. > :45:20.many things we need to do to tackle childhood obesity, if we focus on

:45:21. > :45:24.one thing we are missing a trick. It's around diet and exercise, as

:45:25. > :45:29.well. We need to do everything and the whole host of things are in our

:45:30. > :45:32.report that we think are missing from the strategy and it matters

:45:33. > :45:36.because one in four children now are leaving primary school who are the

:45:37. > :45:39.most disadvantaged children, not just overweight but obese and huge

:45:40. > :45:45.and widening inequality every year for the last nine years.

:45:46. > :45:49.The Government say voluntary approaches have been shown to be

:45:50. > :45:53.very effective, but we have not ruled out further measures if

:45:54. > :45:56.results are not seen. Well, the trouble is they're missing several

:45:57. > :46:00.years here because they're saying they're not going to review this

:46:01. > :46:04.properly until 2020. We are already losing generations of children to

:46:05. > :46:09.this because we know once you become obese, it is much more difficult to

:46:10. > :46:12.get to grips with it than it is if we take a preventative approach. We

:46:13. > :46:17.would like to see a greater focus on this. Do you want that to be

:46:18. > :46:20.voluntary or do you want the Government to introduce legislation

:46:21. > :46:26.to stop supermarkets doing the buy one, get one free? Well, the trouble

:46:27. > :46:30.is, because this is such a huge part of profit margins we know if one

:46:31. > :46:33.supermarket goes ahead and introduces these measures, it is

:46:34. > :46:37.easy for them to be undermined by other supermarkets because it is a

:46:38. > :46:42.huge part of their profit margin and we know that the British Retail

:46:43. > :46:46.Consortium said they would rather it was mandated and there was a level

:46:47. > :46:50.playing field and we agree. It is more likely to be effective. Let's

:46:51. > :46:55.bring in Jo and Melanie. Good morning. From the children's food

:46:56. > :47:01.trust which helps to teach parents about the value of good, over cheap.

:47:02. > :47:06.It is not, it can't just be about the buy one get one free, offers,

:47:07. > :47:09.can it? It has got to be more than that? We agree with the Health

:47:10. > :47:14.Select Committee that we need to find actions on a number of areas to

:47:15. > :47:16.really help parents. We surveyed parents recently and asked them

:47:17. > :47:20.about the sorts of things that would help them to support their children

:47:21. > :47:23.to eat better because we know parents are worried about it and

:47:24. > :47:26.they identified that children are having more opportunities to learn

:47:27. > :47:30.to cook as well as changes in environment such as the supermarket

:47:31. > :47:33.where they get pestered by their children to buy the unhealthy

:47:34. > :47:39.snacks. That's when the parent has to say no? Absolutely. And it was

:47:40. > :47:42.really interesting, 40% of parents said they found it difficult or very

:47:43. > :47:47.difficult to say no to that pestering and it can be really

:47:48. > :47:52.relentless as a parent I know that. I'm often greeted by my children and

:47:53. > :47:55.instead of hello, it's, "Mum, is there anything to eat?" It is within

:47:56. > :48:00.of those things that happens multiple times of day and it can be

:48:01. > :48:04.really tough for parents. Melanie, you reckon that supermarkets have a

:48:05. > :48:07.lot to answer for when it comes to discounting in particular, what sort

:48:08. > :48:12.of things are they discounting that you don't feel they should be? In

:48:13. > :48:19.particular, it is the confectionery. So the chocolate bars, the crisps,

:48:20. > :48:28.the biscuits. When we were really, really -- what we would like to see,

:48:29. > :48:32.supermarkets are doing the big five. They select five fruit and

:48:33. > :48:38.vegetables that are at a discounted rate and that's helpful. More

:48:39. > :48:42.emphasis on fresh products, roots, vegetables, that would go a long

:48:43. > :48:48.way. And I think even in terms of the leaflets that they do into

:48:49. > :48:53.supermarkets, perhaps ideas on using fresh fruit and vegetables for

:48:54. > :48:59.healthy snacks. I know certain supermarkets have the healthy eating

:49:00. > :49:06.project which as your other guest mentioned really helps with the

:49:07. > :49:12.education of teaching children to cook and that was part and parcel

:49:13. > :49:14.with healthy eating is making those good choices, knowing your

:49:15. > :49:21.ingredients, where they come from and how to use them in its most

:49:22. > :49:25.nutritious format. You gave an example of good discounting, pick

:49:26. > :49:33.five pieces of fruit. What about bad discounting? Right, so, it is a lot

:49:34. > :49:40.is part of the meal deal that you find at the supermarket. A lot of it

:49:41. > :49:46.is, it is the sugary drink, crisps and a sandwich. When it comes to

:49:47. > :49:53.children, you know, could we perhaps do more in terms of emphasising the

:49:54. > :49:57.positives and really pulling back on the negatives and the unhealthy

:49:58. > :50:03.foods? Jo, is it true that unhealthy food is cheaper than healthy food?

:50:04. > :50:05.It is. And that's the challenge for families when they're trying to

:50:06. > :50:11.budget for their food shopping, what they want to be sure of is what they

:50:12. > :50:14.buy and what they spend their money on are things that their children

:50:15. > :50:19.will eat. The feedback from parents when we teach children to cook,

:50:20. > :50:22.their amazement at the sorts of food their children will try if they have

:50:23. > :50:26.prepared something and cooked with it. They always say, "Well, they

:50:27. > :50:29.will never eat that at home." It is about that variety because that's

:50:30. > :50:33.the key to eating well is a variety. So we have got to support parents

:50:34. > :50:37.and make it more comfortable for them to buy those sorts of healthy

:50:38. > :50:45.foods so they're confident the children will eat them. Go on

:50:46. > :50:50.Melanie. I think also again, in terms of the supermarkets, where it

:50:51. > :50:57.is promoting, you know, the cheaper and the unhealthy foods, if we could

:50:58. > :51:01.really put that in the fore front of all their aisles and advertising and

:51:02. > :51:05.things like that because children are perceptive to visual prompts and

:51:06. > :51:09.again as Jo said, if we can visually prompt the children to make those

:51:10. > :51:14.selections when they're with mum, the pester power could turn instead

:51:15. > :51:19.from chocolate bar to sort of a pack of fruits and it would be

:51:20. > :51:24.interesting fruits, pineapples, mangoes, not just the apples and the

:51:25. > :51:28.oranges and bananas. Is that realistic We will see pester power

:51:29. > :51:36.change from your seven-year-old saying, "Can I have a bag of fruit?

:51:37. > :51:41.To, "I really want a KitKat." If we teach children cookery skills in

:51:42. > :51:45.school, that's really important and getting children more education

:51:46. > :51:48.about lifestyle and education and why that matters and it will have

:51:49. > :51:53.knock on been fits for families at home as well. Is it right that

:51:54. > :51:56.politicians like you, like your committee are suggesting ways,

:51:57. > :52:00.possibly legislation to intervene in the market in order to help parents

:52:01. > :52:04.and their obese children? It is about the Of the problem and as I

:52:05. > :52:07.say, one in four of the most disadvantaged children leaving

:52:08. > :52:11.primary school actually obese, not just overweight, that's storing up a

:52:12. > :52:16.lifetime of problems for them. It really is the scale of this that

:52:17. > :52:21.demands action. So it is not a small problem. This is a major problem. So

:52:22. > :52:26.why is your Government reluctant to intervene? Why is it saying let the

:52:27. > :52:28.market work this out? Well, it is understandably people are worried

:52:29. > :52:32.about cost of living ip ceases and people who are managing on a tight

:52:33. > :52:37.budget. But that's why we feel it should be about a rebalancing. So

:52:38. > :52:42.we're not calling... Does that mean the Government is susceptible to

:52:43. > :52:45.lobbying from big food companies? There is too much listening to the

:52:46. > :52:48.big interests and not enough listening to what is a public health

:52:49. > :52:52.emergency for our children and that's why it demands action and

:52:53. > :52:57.this is about children's well-being and the whole of their future and

:52:58. > :53:02.Theresa May on the steps of Downing Street talked about wanting to deal

:53:03. > :53:06.with health inequality, the life expectancy gap between the richest

:53:07. > :53:09.and the poorest, if she doesn't tackle childhood obesity we're going

:53:10. > :53:15.to see that getting worse. Every year for the last nine years when we

:53:16. > :53:18.look at the data from the child measurement programme, we can see

:53:19. > :53:21.the gap is getting wider so it does demand some action and there is

:53:22. > :53:27.progress being made on reform lation, it is fantastic news that

:53:28. > :53:32.the money from the sugary drinks levy will go into school sports and

:53:33. > :53:35.breakfast clubs and there are many missed opportunities and the scale

:53:36. > :53:40.demands action. Can I add something in terms of evidence? Yes. Where

:53:41. > :53:44.Government has taken action and put regulation in place in relation to

:53:45. > :53:48.school food standards that it does change what children eat in school

:53:49. > :53:51.at lunch time. So the evidence is there, that where it is appropriate,

:53:52. > :53:56.regulation does work and it does make a difference.

:53:57. > :54:04.Thank you very much. I've got comments here, but I'm waiting more

:54:05. > :54:10.my tablet to update. Thanks Melanie and Jo.

:54:11. > :54:17.Next, Rio Ferdinand on how he struggled to cope with his grief

:54:18. > :54:24.following the death of his wife, Rebecca.

:54:25. > :54:28.I had an amazing wife, great kids and bang, the moment Rebecca was

:54:29. > :54:44.diagnosed with cancer, that all changed.

:54:45. > :54:55.You don't believe the worst scenario can happen. At this point I am just

:54:56. > :54:58.ain't into seeing a therapist. I want to see people who have been

:54:59. > :55:03.through the situation experience what I have experience and who can

:55:04. > :55:07.give me some knowledge first hand. I needed someone who was going through

:55:08. > :55:11.the same thing as me to say, "You know what mate, it's going to be all

:55:12. > :55:16.right. I raised this kid and he's doing all right." I started this

:55:17. > :55:21.blog. The blog turned into a private group for young widowers, it is

:55:22. > :55:24.referred to as Fight Club because the stuff we talk about in there

:55:25. > :55:30.doesn't get spoken about anywhere else. Grief gets you at some point.

:55:31. > :55:34.She will come into my head and I'll try and put it a box there and try

:55:35. > :55:37.and get on with something. I remember going to my wife's funeral

:55:38. > :55:41.and everyone said, "Be strong. You're doing so well. You arary

:55:42. > :55:47.doing so well." On reflection I thought, "I'm not. I'm in shock.

:55:48. > :55:50.This isn't me. This is just something that's kicked in." I

:55:51. > :55:55.thought but what if I'm weak tomorrow? Am I failure then? How are

:55:56. > :56:00.you supposed to grieve like a man when you don't know what it is to

:56:01. > :56:06.grieve? When do you come to that point when you say you're not

:56:07. > :56:12.married or rur ring finger? I needed to move on so I can use the last

:56:13. > :56:16.line in the vows that says, "Until death do us part and we're not

:56:17. > :56:22.married anymore." It brings it back to life again. There is a lot of my

:56:23. > :56:25.life where I know I've not moved on and it is because of little things

:56:26. > :56:29.like the wedding ring. I don't see myself taking off my wedding ring

:56:30. > :56:33.and they're saying that was the thing that was holding them back.

:56:34. > :56:38.You need to do those things to be able to breathe properly again and

:56:39. > :56:46.move on with your life. Very moving. You can watch Rio

:56:47. > :56:51.Ferdinand Being Mum And Dad at 9pm tomorrow night.

:56:52. > :56:56.Thank you for your messages about the risk assessment form that the

:56:57. > :57:00.Metropolitan Police and other forces send out to assess gigs being put on

:57:01. > :57:03.particularly by grime artsts and others and some in the music

:57:04. > :57:08.industry feel the form is effectively racist. This is from

:57:09. > :57:14.Sue, "My son works with grime artsts and said their events are definitely

:57:15. > :57:18.treated differently. Form 696 does discriminate." This texter says, "I

:57:19. > :57:26.think 696 is another way of racial profiling and I think it should be

:57:27. > :57:31.stopped." Simmy, "The 696 form is racial profiling. Let's not try and

:57:32. > :57:36.lie about this." Phil says, "If people want to have safety, you need

:57:37. > :57:41.to have risk assessment. To say it is racist is wrong because you might

:57:42. > :57:45.be aggrieved by this process." Dee says, "More leftist reporting. 696

:57:46. > :57:49.advises cops to keep an eye on gigs." Thank you for those. In a

:57:50. > :57:53.couple of minutes time, we will bring you the news and sport. Before

:57:54. > :57:58.that, here is the weather with Jay Wynne.

:57:59. > :58:05.In the Highlands of Scotland yesterday, we did very well.

:58:06. > :58:08.Temperature wise we got to 20 Celsius for the first time this

:58:09. > :58:14.year. It started off pleasant across much of Scotland. Here is a photo

:58:15. > :58:18.from this morning in North Queen's ferry. In Northamptonshire and

:58:19. > :58:21.eastern England started off on a grey note. Some fairly extensive low

:58:22. > :58:25.cloud. Some patches of mist and fog to go with that. But things are

:58:26. > :58:29.slowly improving. All that low cloud is drifting back towards that

:58:30. > :58:33.eastern coast. Some eastern coastal areas will keep the low cloud into

:58:34. > :58:36.the afternoon keying it on the cool side. Elsewhere, it is another

:58:37. > :58:40.lovely afternoon with sunshine. That's the case across most of

:58:41. > :58:44.Scotland. Maybe up towards the Northern Isles in the way of cloud.

:58:45. > :58:49.Even here we will stay cloud and across the Highlands we could get to

:58:50. > :58:54.17 or 18 Celsius. A lovely afternoon in Northern Ireland. If you're stuck

:58:55. > :58:59.under the cloud, temperatures may struggle to get to double figures.

:59:00. > :59:02.Across the south of the UK, we've got much lighter winds than we saw

:59:03. > :59:06.through the weekend. A better feel to things. 17 Celsius in the

:59:07. > :59:10.capital. Now, through this evening, we start to see the low cloud and

:59:11. > :59:12.the mist and the fog coming back in from the east and by dawn on

:59:13. > :59:16.Tuesday, I think that low cloud, mist and fog will be extensive

:59:17. > :59:19.across many central and eastern areas and some of the fog will be

:59:20. > :59:23.quite dense, but not so in the south-west, more of a breeze with

:59:24. > :59:26.cloud and patchy rain, ten Celsius here, but elsewhere it is four,

:59:27. > :59:31.five, six Celsius and that's in larger towns and cities. Rural spots

:59:32. > :59:35.lower than that. But basically, over the next few days, it is all change.

:59:36. > :59:38.This area of low pressure out towards the west will start to

:59:39. > :59:42.become the dominant force. It will bring in a south-westerly breeze and

:59:43. > :59:47.it will feel things mild and it will throw quite a bit of cloud at us.

:59:48. > :59:51.That cloud will bring rain. Always wettest on Tuesday. Scattered

:59:52. > :00:00.showers getting across the eastern side, still doing well temperature

:00:01. > :00:03.wise, 16 Celsius, 17 Celsius. So looking ahead towards the middle

:00:04. > :00:06.part of the week. It looks like there will be a lot of cloud and

:00:07. > :00:09.outbreaks of rain and probably a wetter day on Wednesday. Most of the

:00:10. > :00:14.rain coming into the north and the west. The South East staying dry and

:00:15. > :00:17.breezy and cloudy as well. So a different day, a different week

:00:18. > :00:21.ahead from the last few days. Much more in the way of cloud around.

:00:22. > :00:24.There will be outbreaks of rain, but with a southerly breeze it will stay

:00:25. > :00:25.warm and on Tuesday, in the South East, probably getting to 20 or 21

:00:26. > :00:34.Celsius. This morning, questions over

:00:35. > :00:44.whether the police have adopted a racist approach to how

:00:45. > :00:51.they assess gigs put It's fast tempo, high energy, it's

:00:52. > :01:02.the attitude, it's the whole culture. It's fashion. It's the way

:01:03. > :01:05.we speak all rolled into electronic dance hall inspired fusion. We will

:01:06. > :01:09.hear how the Government is to respond to fears the form is being

:01:10. > :01:13.used in a racist way to target grime artists.

:01:14. > :01:16.A man with an incurable but not terminal disease.

:01:17. > :01:31.He tells us about his fight to change the law on assisted suicide.

:01:32. > :01:35.And, the two US girls stopped from boarding a flight

:01:36. > :01:40.A huge row's erupted on social media after the airline said the girls'

:01:41. > :01:43.tickets meant they had to follow a dress code.

:01:44. > :01:48.Why do leggings cause such offence? Your examples of leggings

:01:49. > :01:52.discrimination, please. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

:01:53. > :01:55.with a summary of today's news. Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary Kier

:01:56. > :02:04.Starmer has set the terms his party will use to judge whether to support

:02:05. > :02:07.any final Brexit deal. He announced six tests for Brexit -

:02:08. > :02:10.asking for a deal that delivers the same benefits as the UK

:02:11. > :02:12.currently enjoys as a member of Once a small minority in the

:02:13. > :02:16.Conservative Party, the Brexiteers This ideologically-driven

:02:17. > :02:25.approach to Brexit would be And it would stand as a roadblock

:02:26. > :02:32.to continued co-operation in the important fields

:02:33. > :02:36.of technology, research, medicine, The Prime Minister needs to face

:02:37. > :02:46.down these Brexiteers. And later today we'll be

:02:47. > :02:48.putting your questions to BBC journalists on the triggering

:02:49. > :02:50.of Article 50. Throughout the day, we'll

:02:51. > :02:53.be speaking with our Europe editor Katya Adler

:02:54. > :02:55.and economics editor Kamal Ahmed. You can get in touch via Twitter

:02:56. > :02:59.using the hashtag BBC Ask This - Theresa May will meet Scotland's

:03:00. > :03:06.First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later today for the first time

:03:07. > :03:10.since she rejected calls for a second referendum

:03:11. > :03:13.on Scottish independence. The Prime Minister's visit is part

:03:14. > :03:16.of a tour of all four nations of the UK before the process

:03:17. > :03:19.of leaving the European Union The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

:03:20. > :03:25.will meet European ministers today to discuss ways of preventing

:03:26. > :03:27.further terrorist attacks. She's called for the authorities

:03:28. > :03:29.to be given access The Westminster attacker,

:03:30. > :03:32.Khalid Masood, may have used WhatsApp shortly before

:03:33. > :03:41.he began his assault. This programme has learnt

:03:42. > :03:44.that the government is to respond to fears a police risk assessment

:03:45. > :03:47.form has been used in a racist way Promoters and licensees in many

:03:48. > :03:51.areas are asked to complete a Form 696 before hosting some music

:03:52. > :03:54.events featuring "DJs and Mcs". Culture Minister Matt Hancock

:03:55. > :03:56.is due to raise concerns with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use

:03:57. > :03:59.of the form in London. The Met Police denies

:04:00. > :04:01.the voluntary form targets This afternoon's deadline

:04:02. > :04:10.to form a new devolved government in Northern Ireland

:04:11. > :04:12.following the elections is likely Sinn Fein say they won't

:04:13. > :04:15.go into an executive led by the Democratic Unionist Party

:04:16. > :04:17.leader, Arlene Foster, while a public inquiry

:04:18. > :04:19.investigates her handling In an exclusive interview for this

:04:20. > :04:40.programme a man with an incurable disease says why he's

:04:41. > :04:42.taking his case to the High Court to change the law

:04:43. > :04:44.on assisted Suicide. The 54-year-old father,

:04:45. > :04:46.who wants to be identified by his first name, Omid,

:04:47. > :04:49.was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare His illness means he is largely

:04:50. > :04:52.confined to his bed The judgment is expected to be

:04:53. > :05:06.announced in the coming days. The government must do more

:05:07. > :05:09.to reduce the number of cut-price offers on unhealthy food to help

:05:10. > :05:11.curb childhood obesity, The Health Select Committee,

:05:12. > :05:15.also calls for rules on junk food It argues the government's official

:05:16. > :05:18.obesity plan contains "vague But ministers say the strategy

:05:19. > :05:31.is the world's "most ambitious plan One comment, unhealthy food is not

:05:32. > :05:35.cheaper. Steven, I have seven children, all healthy. I don't allow

:05:36. > :05:41.crisps or sweets, it's called parenting. Leave the supermarkets

:05:42. > :05:44.alone. This tweet says supermarket discounts are not the problem, kids

:05:45. > :05:49.don't buy food, educate parents instead. If you are get in touch,

:05:50. > :05:53.you are very welcome. If you text you will be charged at the standard

:05:54. > :05:57.network rate. Here is the sport. England are unbeaten and top of

:05:58. > :06:01.their World Cup qualifying group. They beat Lithuania 2-0 yesterday.

:06:02. > :06:07.Not the greatest of games. Lithuania did their best to stifle England but

:06:08. > :06:11.Jermaine Defoe at 34, got the opener, his 20th goal for England,

:06:12. > :06:15.three years after his last appearance. Jamie Vardy got

:06:16. > :06:19.England's second. If he stays fit he should be sure of a place in the

:06:20. > :06:23.World Cup squad next summer but what about Defoe? It's really important

:06:24. > :06:27.that we are able to call upon the likes of Jermaine and for him to

:06:28. > :06:30.have the impact that he had in a game like today. If he is scoring

:06:31. > :06:34.goals in the Premier League and playing as well as he has this

:06:35. > :06:38.season, then there is no reason why he couldn't.

:06:39. > :06:41.England's next qualifier is against Scotland in June. Gordon Strachan

:06:42. > :06:47.might have been out of a job had they failed to beat Slovenia last

:06:48. > :06:50.night. They left it late but Chris Martin's 88th minute goal for the

:06:51. > :06:54.1-0 win moved them up to fourth in the group. A couple of points off

:06:55. > :06:58.second, that could be good enough for a play-off come the final

:06:59. > :07:02.reckoning. Hampden was less than half-full. Fans unhappy at recent

:07:03. > :07:10.performances but Gordon Strachan said the first half was the best

:07:11. > :07:16.since he has been in charge. All you can ask as a manage certificate go

:07:17. > :07:21.and do certain things. They did everything they were asked. They

:07:22. > :07:26.pushed themselves another level there. So, I was calm enough, what

:07:27. > :07:30.will be will be. But I was enjoying their performance as a manager.

:07:31. > :07:33.The best that Northern Ireland can probably hope for is a play-off spot

:07:34. > :07:37.because Germany are running away with it in their group at the

:07:38. > :07:40.moment. Michael O'Neill's side are two points clear in second after

:07:41. > :07:45.maintaining their brilliant home form. They beat Norway 2-0. Jamie

:07:46. > :07:48.Ward scored inside two minutes. Connor Washington added another by

:07:49. > :07:52.half-time. They haven't been beaten in eight competitive matches at

:07:53. > :07:55.Windsor Park. Their two remaining home games are against the Czech

:07:56. > :08:02.Republic and the Germans which is going to be key to them making it

:08:03. > :08:04.back-to-back major tournaments. Results build confidence and

:08:05. > :08:07.momentum and belief. We have carried that on. We had the experience of

:08:08. > :08:10.qualification for France. We had the experience of the finals. It's

:08:11. > :08:13.credit to the group of players that they've not let their standards

:08:14. > :08:17.drop. They're still wanting it and dream they can go to Russia, as

:08:18. > :08:21.well. With every game obviously you are closer to reality.

:08:22. > :08:25.Another tennis line this morning. Andy Murray's unlikely to be fit for

:08:26. > :08:30.the Davis Cup tie against France a week on Friday. His brother Jamie

:08:31. > :08:33.has revealed the world number one has a tear in his elbow and needs

:08:34. > :08:37.rest. We already knew about that injury but not the severity. Murray

:08:38. > :08:40.had already pulled out of a tournament in the US with the

:08:41. > :08:45.problem. He had hoped to return for the start of the clay court season

:08:46. > :08:48.in about three weeks. That's all the sport.

:08:49. > :08:53.I will be back in about half an hour.

:08:54. > :08:56.This is just in. Terry Adams, former gangster, has lost his court of

:08:57. > :09:02.appeal challenge over how much money he has to pay back from his days of

:09:03. > :09:09.crime. He says he has insufficient funds to meet a debt of ?651,000. He

:09:10. > :09:13.has told a judge this morning that he was so broke that he was living

:09:14. > :09:17.off his actress wife Ruth. And denied having hidden funds that were

:09:18. > :09:24.behind a lavish lifestyle. The CPS do not agree with him. They say

:09:25. > :09:25.there is a strong case that Terry Adams possessed substantial

:09:26. > :09:31.undisclosed assets and the judge said she was not satisfied that

:09:32. > :09:35.Adams had provided full and candid disclosure. Terry Adams denied he

:09:36. > :09:42.was using his wife, family and associate to create a sham income

:09:43. > :09:43.and loans to pay for visits to the opera and restaurants, spa

:09:44. > :09:49.memberships and treatment at private clinics.

:09:50. > :09:52.Thousands of videos on YouTube - like this -

:09:53. > :09:58.look like versions of popular kids cartoons but actually contain

:09:59. > :10:03.disturbing and inappropriate content not suitable for children.

:10:04. > :10:06.It may look like Peppa Pig - but in this video a dentist appears

:10:07. > :10:21.with a huge syringe and her teeth get pulled out.

:10:22. > :10:29.There are fake videos that contain content not suitable for children.

:10:30. > :10:35.BBC Trending has found hundreds of similar videos

:10:36. > :10:38.of children's cartoon characters with inappropriate themes -

:10:39. > :10:39.featuring characters from the Disney movie Frozen,

:10:40. > :11:10.the Minions franchise, Thomas The Tank Engine, and many more.

:11:11. > :11:13.There was an episode where I saw a popular character,

:11:14. > :11:16.I think it was Peppa Pig again, they actually set fire to a house

:11:17. > :11:20.with one of the other characters in it to try and kill them.

:11:21. > :11:23.I mean, these are things that, for a child to see, they are not

:11:24. > :11:40.The YouTube kids app sort of starts to recommend at the bottom

:11:41. > :11:43.underneath the videos, and I heard something that didn't

:11:44. > :11:45.sound right after she'd been watching for maybe ten

:11:46. > :11:57.She just wanted me to not take it away from her

:11:58. > :12:33.because she was engrossed in what the video was.

:12:34. > :12:35.YouTube could come out and say, you know, this is not

:12:36. > :12:44.You can't have an algorithm that is filtering out the videos

:12:45. > :12:46.from YouTube and, you know, helping you catch

:12:47. > :12:50.I hope parents see this and they realise that that Peppa Pig

:12:51. > :12:56.video that their children are watching might not be Peppa Pig.

:12:57. > :12:59.We can speak now to Mike Wendling a producer for BBC Trending who's

:13:00. > :13:01.also a parent and spotted these offensive videos.

:13:02. > :13:05.We have also Keith White, whose young son watched one of these

:13:06. > :13:07.videos on their ipad and Professor Sonia Livingston,

:13:08. > :13:18.Hi, Mike, how did you come across them? It was on the YouTube

:13:19. > :13:22.recommended videos, you might see them on the right of the screen,

:13:23. > :13:27.sometimes at the bottom if you are using the app. Like some parents I

:13:28. > :13:31.am not proud of it, but use YouTube to entertain children every once in

:13:32. > :13:36.a while, noticed something funny about one of the videos that was

:13:37. > :13:41.suggested because my children were watching Peppa Pig. The team looked

:13:42. > :13:44.into them and found, as you say, hundreds, probably thousands of

:13:45. > :13:50.these videos are on YouTube that are fakes. Who is behind them? We don't

:13:51. > :13:54.know because nobody actually came back to us. We tried to contact

:13:55. > :13:58.dozens of the people who are making these films. We think it's a

:13:59. > :14:04.combination of pranksters, people who think that this stuff is funny.

:14:05. > :14:06.But then also people who are clearly aiming them at children and trying

:14:07. > :14:14.to make money off advertising. Right. That could be the motivation.

:14:15. > :14:20.Keith, what did - how old is your little boy? I have an eight-year-old

:14:21. > :14:25.and and a six-year-old. They've been using YouTube since the age of one

:14:26. > :14:31.really. I do think a lot of parents use it to try and entertain their

:14:32. > :14:35.kids, sometimes to separate fighting siblings. It does add some downtime

:14:36. > :14:41.but it has to be used in moderation. There are a lot of the videos like

:14:42. > :14:46.you asked, why do people make these, they're easy hits, easy views and

:14:47. > :14:52.you can get paid a lot of money with multiple views coming to your

:14:53. > :14:57.videos. There's an easy way to make money because even a one-year-old

:14:58. > :15:00.can use YouTube and understand the picture of Peppa Pig is appealing

:15:01. > :15:04.and they can press that button and the next video will come up and

:15:05. > :15:09.that's how you can get so many hits making these inappropriate videos.

:15:10. > :15:15.What did your children watch? There's been a number of incidents I

:15:16. > :15:20.have come across of inappropriate content on these pretend videos.

:15:21. > :15:27.Peppa Pig was one. There was another which was a favourite at the time,

:15:28. > :15:33.Thomas The Tank Engine. There is been a lot.

:15:34. > :15:40.Were the children scared? At the time I don't think they realised

:15:41. > :15:43.what they were being exposed to. They were maybe a bit too young to

:15:44. > :15:47.understand the language and the images being used. Now as they're

:15:48. > :15:52.getting more sensible they actually do come and tell me, "Daddy, I have

:15:53. > :15:59.seen something on the video or I've heard something that I didn't like

:16:00. > :16:04.or was wrong." ." I am more wary of them using YouTube unattended now. I

:16:05. > :16:07.discovered it over looking one of the videos they were watching and

:16:08. > :16:14.suddenly realised it sounded the same as Peppa Pig, but some of the

:16:15. > :16:19.images being used were very wrong. Professor Sonia Livingstone. You

:16:20. > :16:24.look at child online safety, the answer is not to give your kid the

:16:25. > :16:27.iPad? No, there are many more answers than that. Children want to

:16:28. > :16:31.be entertained and have the right to have fun and the internet is a key

:16:32. > :16:36.place for them to do it. I think, and YouTube is, you know, families

:16:37. > :16:42.number one favourite app. But what our research says is children are

:16:43. > :16:46.often upset when they come across something that shows actually

:16:47. > :16:50.especially cruelty to children or animals and it seems some of the

:16:51. > :16:55.videos show exactly that. Whose responsibility is it then? Well, it

:16:56. > :17:00.is a mixed responsibility. This is a new world that we're all working

:17:01. > :17:05.out. So, parents do need to upped stand what it is that the internet

:17:06. > :17:08.offers which is a mix of wonderful and some weird and sometimes

:17:09. > :17:11.frightening content, but I wouldn't say that means parents should never

:17:12. > :17:15.leave their kids alone on the internet or that they have got to

:17:16. > :17:19.watch over them the whole time. We do also want children to learn and

:17:20. > :17:23.to have the freedom to explore and have fun, you know, sometimes by

:17:24. > :17:30.themselves without a parent kind of breathing over their shoulders. So I

:17:31. > :17:32.do think that the companies, especially YouTube bear some

:17:33. > :17:36.responsibility for really making clear what kind of environment this

:17:37. > :17:41.is and doing what they can to make it safer for children. Mike in terms

:17:42. > :17:46.of your attempts to contact YouTube, where are they on the responsibility

:17:47. > :17:50.side of this? So they did send us a statement. They said there is a

:17:51. > :17:54.couple of things that parents can do to protect themselves. One is to

:17:55. > :17:58.turn on restricted mode. It is interesting, I didn't know about

:17:59. > :18:02.restricted mode even though I look at this stuff every day. At the

:18:03. > :18:08.bottom of every YouTube page there is a setting that you can change.

:18:09. > :18:11.That will turn off any video that's been flagged for inappropriate

:18:12. > :18:16.content. You won't be able to view it. You can use the YouTube kids

:18:17. > :18:21.app. Our team found that those methods filtered out quite a lot of

:18:22. > :18:25.these videos, not all of them, but they did help and then, of course,

:18:26. > :18:28.as we have been talking about, it is up to parents to monitor their

:18:29. > :18:33.children's internet. It really is. A lot of parents getting in touch

:18:34. > :18:42.saying this is, you know, you're a parent, do your job. I think that's

:18:43. > :18:49.a fair point. Go on, Sonia? On the bottom of the YouTube screen it used

:18:50. > :18:52.to be called, "Safe" And they call it restrictive. If YouTube want

:18:53. > :18:57.parents to take their responsibility they could call it safety or for

:18:58. > :19:02.kids or for parents that makes it clear and they could bring it to

:19:03. > :19:06.parents attention because I have interviewed lots of parents and no

:19:07. > :19:11.one is telling them that there is a mechanism. Tell us what that is

:19:12. > :19:16.Mike? It is called restricted mode. It is at the very bottom of any

:19:17. > :19:21.YouTube page. Hit that and hopefully you won't get the fake stuff? Turn

:19:22. > :19:25.the restricted mode on and that will limit, like I say, quite a lot of

:19:26. > :19:29.these videos, not all of them. It depends on users to flag them up and

:19:30. > :19:35.if a user hasn't flagged the particular video up t might be new

:19:36. > :19:44.then it won't pick tip, but that will really help filter out some of

:19:45. > :19:48.this stuff. Go on... There is an opportunity for parents, when they

:19:49. > :19:51.see the inappropriate videos to report them to YouTube so they don't

:19:52. > :19:56.come up in future searchs for other kids and you can teach their kids if

:19:57. > :19:59.they hear videos with inappropriate language which sometimes going to

:20:00. > :20:07.happen, you cannot protect that from ever happening entirely. If you

:20:08. > :20:13.teach them how to report the videos, that can protect future kids. Sonia?

:20:14. > :20:20.We have a lot of voice recognition software that can understand what's

:20:21. > :20:24.being said, I don't understand why YouTube doesn't use that technology

:20:25. > :20:28.to flag them as inappropriate for children and then we don't have to

:20:29. > :20:32.rely on each individual parent flagging. Good idea. Thank you.

:20:33. > :20:35.An exclusive interview with a man suffering from an incurable

:20:36. > :20:39.He wants the Government to change the law over assisted suicide.

:20:40. > :20:50.Hear his story later in the programme.

:20:51. > :20:52.Next, this programme has learnt that the Government is to respond

:20:53. > :20:56.to fears a police risk assessment form has been used in a "racist" way

:20:57. > :20:59.Promoters and licensees in many areas are asked to complete a "Form

:21:00. > :21:02.696" before hosting some music events featuring "DJs and MCs".

:21:03. > :21:11.Culture Minister Matt Hancock is set to raise concerns

:21:12. > :21:14.with London Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use of the form in London.

:21:15. > :21:16.The Met Police denies the voluntary form targets

:21:17. > :21:20.Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu bought you the full story at 9.15am.

:21:21. > :21:22.Here's a short extract from that film.

:21:23. > :21:24.The Metropolitan Police promotion event risk assessment form 696

:21:25. > :21:26.was introduced back in 2005 after a spate of violent

:21:27. > :21:32.Like, you're targeting a specific genre of music that you know

:21:33. > :21:34.a certain demographic is going to listen to.

:21:35. > :21:37.You haven't written anything about any other type of demographic.

:21:38. > :21:39.They can say it's not racist, but it's definitely targeted, which,

:21:40. > :21:48.The Met says the form does not target specific genres of music,

:21:49. > :21:52.But the BBC has found a number of forces across England who have

:21:53. > :21:57.adopted a version to ask those questions, like Leicestershire

:21:58. > :21:59.police, who want details on the ethnic make-up

:22:00. > :22:03.Northamptonshire Police told us they are open

:22:04. > :22:13.We generally know what the ethnic make-up is going to be

:22:14. > :22:16.from what comes in anyway, so by risk assessing them

:22:17. > :22:18.we can then make sure that we identify problems,

:22:19. > :22:21.work with promoters and venues, to make sure that all them

:22:22. > :22:25.Many other types of genres and gigs, they don't have to do the form.

:22:26. > :22:28.Say, for example, Ed Sheeran had a show, and a fight broke out,

:22:29. > :22:32.then he's not going to do a 696 form on his next arena tour, he's not.

:22:33. > :22:39.It's different for them. Why is it different?

:22:40. > :22:42.We did ask a number of promoters and venue owners to appear in this

:22:43. > :22:45.film, but a lot said No over fears that they or their event

:22:46. > :22:49.Because for years there have been rumours about a police

:22:50. > :22:50.blacklist with acts, their followers,

:22:51. > :22:55.Now some licensees are telling us that they are having constructive

:22:56. > :22:56.conversations with the police over form 696.

:22:57. > :22:59.And to quote one promoter, on ways to get around the system.

:23:00. > :23:02.That same promoter, though, asks, why should he have

:23:03. > :23:10.We've been talking to central licensing and we've done some good

:23:11. > :23:16.work with initiating a conversation because we said that there is a real

:23:17. > :23:19.concern around 696s and particularly how it plays out

:23:20. > :23:20.with certain genres of music and certain demographics.

:23:21. > :23:25.Particularly around grime and garage.

:23:26. > :23:29.We brought some managers and labels in together

:23:30. > :23:32.with the promoters and said that we would address it.

:23:33. > :23:41.We actually think that there should be a review of

:23:42. > :23:45.We think that it has got challenges and it is flawed.

:23:46. > :23:47.But despite those conversations and the accusations that the form

:23:48. > :23:50.does target certain genres of music there are no plans to

:23:51. > :23:57.Let's talk to Post Diddy, a grime scene veteran

:23:58. > :24:00.who runs the GRM Daily blog, Vincent Olutayo from an organisation

:24:01. > :24:02.called Urban Development which helps young people get

:24:03. > :24:08.Alan Miller is campaigning to get Form 696 reviewed -

:24:09. > :24:09.he's from the Night Time Industries Association.

:24:10. > :24:24.Jenna Jarrett works in the music industry and is a grime fan.

:24:25. > :24:35.It form 696 racist? I believe so. I feel it is an infringement on civil

:24:36. > :24:41.liberties and a form of racial discrimination even the form itself

:24:42. > :24:47.refers to an MC and a disc jockey which is clearly an attack at grime

:24:48. > :24:52.and sort of garage events. I mean old form referred to what kind of

:24:53. > :24:56.minorities were attending the event, whether it was ethnic minorities...

:24:57. > :25:02.Not anymore. Not anymore. But it is voluntary. Not many venues have to

:25:03. > :25:08.fill this form in. It's voluntary? Yeah, of course, it is. I feel like

:25:09. > :25:12.the police, you know, tend to bully like actual events and you know,

:25:13. > :25:16.actual clubs and stuff and let them know that if they don't actually

:25:17. > :25:19.fill out the form then they can threaten their licences and stuff

:25:20. > :25:25.like that which is really cruel. Right. I mean we haven't got any

:25:26. > :25:29.evidence of that in particular. What the Met say is, effectively it is

:25:30. > :25:36.about protecting people like yourself, people who go to these

:25:37. > :25:40.nights and it's about your security? I agree it's about security, but I

:25:41. > :25:46.don't see why as you were saying why they target kind of disc jockeys and

:25:47. > :25:50.MCs when primarily, the majority of MCs are black and I don't see why

:25:51. > :25:54.they have to kind of target people in that way. If you were going to an

:25:55. > :25:59.event and it was aimed at middle-class and it was like disco

:26:00. > :26:07.music, I can't see, you'd have to fill out a 696. The Met say it will

:26:08. > :26:11.only become a condition of a licence when serious public disorder

:26:12. > :26:15.occurred at a venue? I agree and doing research, they do it from low

:26:16. > :26:21.risk to high risk. If they spoke and let people know how they categorize

:26:22. > :26:26.it and identify low risk and high risk the venues can work with them

:26:27. > :26:31.and understand what they need to do to prevent the event being shutdown,

:26:32. > :26:37.but they don't reveal how they measure it. That's right. Vincent

:26:38. > :26:41.the form does say recommended guidance to music event, organisers,

:26:42. > :26:46.management and of licensed premises or event promoter on when to

:26:47. > :26:51.complete the form, featuring DJs or MCs performing to a recorded backing

:26:52. > :26:56.track? Just from the guidance alone you can see the criteria is

:26:57. > :27:01.specific. So I think that's where the issues have come about in the

:27:02. > :27:08.fom. It feels discriminatory in that it narrows the use of it. If you are

:27:09. > :27:12.looking at MCs and DJs and those sorts of genres as far as the music

:27:13. > :27:17.landscape is concerned, it is very much grime and hip-hop and very much

:27:18. > :27:22.garage. Again, if we're looking at it from a racial prospective if you

:27:23. > :27:26.like, can be perceived as very much within the black music sector. So I

:27:27. > :27:33.think that's specifically where the issues have come from. If it was

:27:34. > :27:39.blank in the sense that there were no guidance around specific genres

:27:40. > :27:44.or per se then I don't believe there would be that much opposition to the

:27:45. > :27:54.form because it would be a level playing field for everybody. Let's

:27:55. > :28:00.put that to Keith Price he is a Conservative councillor. If it was

:28:01. > :28:04.non discriminatory and fair, then surely all music events would have

:28:05. > :28:08.to complete it? I can see what you're saying. The issue is around

:28:09. > :28:14.about keeping people safe though, isn't it? Therefore all music events

:28:15. > :28:21.should have to complete it? Well, I'm not disagreeing that all events

:28:22. > :28:25.should have to complete it. My problem is that clearly, by having

:28:26. > :28:28.these forms, we are able to keep more people safe. So I don't see

:28:29. > :28:34.that as being a problem myself. Right. But potentially you would be

:28:35. > :28:40.able to keep even more people safe if every venue had to fill it in?

:28:41. > :28:46.Well, I don't disagree with that. But I do disagree with not having a

:28:47. > :28:48.form, just... INAUDIBLE

:28:49. > :28:57.Because people perceive it to a particular culture. I don't think it

:28:58. > :29:02.is. At the end the end of the day everybody likes garage and MCs and

:29:03. > :29:05.hip-hop and I don't think it is aimed at any race or creed and these

:29:06. > :29:10.forms have been proach to be effective and that's what it is

:29:11. > :29:14.about keeping people safe. Alan, what do you say in terms of the

:29:15. > :29:18.future use of this form? Well, we're calling for a review because I mean

:29:19. > :29:21.firstly people say it's voluntary, but the amount of pressure and it

:29:22. > :29:27.depends which police force, but the amount of pressure that's put on

:29:28. > :29:32.licencees and promote tors do it means it is not really optional in

:29:33. > :29:39.many cases. It is pretty much mant dre tree and if you don't go along

:29:40. > :29:45.with it, you are put under enormous pressure. Safety, no one in their

:29:46. > :29:49.right mind would disagree with in the abstract or specifics, everyone

:29:50. > :29:53.being safe, when you get specific about what it means is, what it

:29:54. > :29:59.means is that certain activity and certain genres and certain people

:30:00. > :30:04.are prioritised in a particular way if there happens to have been an ins

:30:05. > :30:11.didn't and fight in the way that others aren't. Put that back to

:30:12. > :30:19.Keith Price who is the Conservative on the London Assembly? It is Keith

:30:20. > :30:24.Prince by the way. I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the beef? It

:30:25. > :30:28.keeps people safe. Have the organisers got a problem with

:30:29. > :30:32.filling ourt a form that keeps people safe? Yes, it would be better

:30:33. > :30:36.if more people were to fill out the form and if it was to apply to

:30:37. > :30:40.everybody in the industry, of course, but have they really got a

:30:41. > :30:46.problem with filling out a form that keeps people safe? How do you

:30:47. > :30:50.respond? You haven't addressed that it is a form of discrimination.

:30:51. > :30:55.You're clearly attacking a certain group of people and a certain group

:30:56. > :30:58.of artists in a country that encourages people to create a

:30:59. > :31:01.sustainable income for themselves, you have to consider the adverse

:31:02. > :31:05.effects that these forms are presenting to them and you haven't

:31:06. > :31:17.really addressed the situation. How do you feel about that?

:31:18. > :31:25.At the end of the day, I think going to all organisations is right and

:31:26. > :31:27.proper, if it's working in one particular sector of the music

:31:28. > :31:31.industry, the entertain. Industry, why not roll it out to all the

:31:32. > :31:36.sectors, I haven't an issue with that. I have an issue with people

:31:37. > :31:39.saying it shouldn't be done because it affects just one particular

:31:40. > :31:41.section. But I agree, it shouldn't just be aimed at one particular

:31:42. > :31:45.section. It should apply to the whole of the industry. That's good.

:31:46. > :31:50.The fact it's keeping people safe, that's good too. So, I don't see the

:31:51. > :31:54.problem other than having to ultimately address the issue that

:31:55. > :31:58.maybe it should be used for everybody, otherwise I don't see the

:31:59. > :32:01.problem. I am not sure this thing about keeping people safe that

:32:02. > :32:06.actually happens, we see there are incidents in life, there is an

:32:07. > :32:10.attempt in British society to have a completely risk averse world where

:32:11. > :32:14.nothing happens but things do happen. There is a different

:32:15. > :32:21.response if we call it what it is, if there is a fight with a group of

:32:22. > :32:24.white guys at a club or a bar or outside, there is a different

:32:25. > :32:31.response sometimes in terms of tagging that incident to the DJs and

:32:32. > :32:35.promoters, than there is if there is a grime night or garage night. It's

:32:36. > :32:41.like there is not an intention of a particular officer to do that, but

:32:42. > :32:44.there is a broader thing that happens that ends up having that

:32:45. > :32:49.effect. The context of that, even if you end up saying let's roll out

:32:50. > :32:54.more of these forms in all these different places, it doesn't address

:32:55. > :32:58.the actual problem because there is a different nuanced and context

:32:59. > :33:02.that's put on with particular types of genres and activity and that's

:33:03. > :33:06.more of a legacy of some thinking and attitudes and approaches which

:33:07. > :33:12.has been more endemic for an ongoing period in Britain that we need to

:33:13. > :33:16.address. Just to add what the Met Police tell us, information provided

:33:17. > :33:19.on this form gives police details of a promoted event before it takes

:33:20. > :33:23.place so that research of the event can be carried out and where

:33:24. > :33:27.necessary in consultation with local police additional measures can be

:33:28. > :33:35.put in place to mitigate any risks. They point out they rarely cancel

:33:36. > :33:39.any event. Would you agree with Keith Prince, the London Assembly

:33:40. > :33:43.member, that this form should be extended to all venues? Not at all,

:33:44. > :33:46.because not until we tackle the entire premise of the form in the

:33:47. > :33:50.first place. I think once we look at the premise of the form and

:33:51. > :33:55.understand that it is discriminatory and is very much targeted to a

:33:56. > :33:59.particular sector and genre and we aleave ate that as the issue, then

:34:00. > :34:04.we can look at the issue of how do we then keep people safe in these

:34:05. > :34:08.venues? The issue is the fact is that as you said previously, the

:34:09. > :34:11.problem is generally with the venues, not necessarily with the

:34:12. > :34:14.promoters or artists or musicians. However, the form asks for names,

:34:15. > :34:19.addresses and details of every single musician that is going to be

:34:20. > :34:24.performing. It's almost like saying if you have a trouble at a football

:34:25. > :34:29.match that every one of the players is responsible for whatever the fans

:34:30. > :34:34.do at that match. Or, whatever the club does or the security or lack of

:34:35. > :34:39.security that the club offers. So I think until we are able to address

:34:40. > :34:42.that, the specific inception of the form, then no, I don't think we

:34:43. > :34:48.should be rolling it out because you are rolling out a bad problem

:34:49. > :34:57.essentially. Thank you all. Appreciate your time, thank you.

:34:58. > :35:02.You can watch the fulfil am on form 696 on our programme page. And you

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:35:24. > :35:33.Why did an American airline refuse two young girls access to a flight?

:35:34. > :35:37.Because they were wearing leggings. The latest news headlines now.

:35:38. > :35:40.Labour is warning the Prime Minister not to let the UK leave

:35:41. > :35:43.Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary Kier Starmer has

:35:44. > :35:46.been outlining six tests by which the party decide whether or

:35:47. > :35:51.Theresa May has said that leaving with nothing would be better

:35:52. > :35:53.than signing the UK up to a bad arrangement.

:35:54. > :35:56.The process will be triggered on Wednesday.

:35:57. > :35:59.Theresa May will meet Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later

:36:00. > :36:03.today for the first time since she rejected calls

:36:04. > :36:05.for a second referendum on Scottish independence.

:36:06. > :36:08.The Prime Minister's visit is part of a tour of all four

:36:09. > :36:11.nations of the UK before the process of leaving the European Union

:36:12. > :36:17.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, will meet European ministers today

:36:18. > :36:19.to discuss ways of preventing further terrorist attacks.

:36:20. > :36:21.She's called for the authorities to be given access

:36:22. > :36:24.The Westminster attacker, Khalid Masood, may have used

:36:25. > :36:32.WhatsApp shortly before he began his assault.

:36:33. > :36:34.This afternoon's deadline to form a new devolved

:36:35. > :36:36.government in Northern Ireland following the elections is likely

:36:37. > :36:40.Sinn Fein say they won't go into an executive

:36:41. > :36:42.led by the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster,

:36:43. > :36:44.while a public inquiry investigates her handling

:36:45. > :37:06.That's the latest news. Now the morning sports headlines.

:37:07. > :37:10.England are top of their World Cup qualifying group, they won 2-0

:37:11. > :37:13.against Lithuania. Jermaine Defoe scoring his 20th international goal

:37:14. > :37:17.at the age of 34. His first appearance in over three years.

:37:18. > :37:22.Jamie Vardy also scored. Scotland have kept alive their hopes of

:37:23. > :37:26.qualification. Thae beat Slovenia 1-0 at Hampden Park. Chris Martin

:37:27. > :37:30.scored in the 88th minute. They're two points off second and play

:37:31. > :37:33.England next in June. Northern Ireland remain second in their group

:37:34. > :37:37.behind Germany. Jamie Ward and Connor Washington with their goals

:37:38. > :37:41.against Norway in the 2-0 win at Windsor Park. Andy Murray is

:37:42. > :37:44.unlikely to be fit for the Davis Cup tie against France a week on Friday.

:37:45. > :37:48.His brother Jamie has revealed that the world number one has got a tear

:37:49. > :37:52.in his elbow and needs rest. Murray had already pulled out of a

:37:53. > :37:56.tournament in the US with that injury. That's the sport. I will be

:37:57. > :38:01.back after 11.00am on BBC News. This morning an exclusive interview

:38:02. > :38:03.with a father who wants to change the law to allow people

:38:04. > :38:06.with incurable conditions which badly affect their quality

:38:07. > :38:08.of life to end their life The 54-year-old father,

:38:09. > :38:11.who wants us to only use his first name, Omid,

:38:12. > :38:13.was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare degenerative disease,

:38:14. > :38:16.which is not terminal, but is incurable, it means

:38:17. > :38:18.he is largely confined Assisted suicide is currently

:38:19. > :38:27.unlawful in the UK, but Omid is seeking to take his case

:38:28. > :38:32.to the High Court. His lawyers have asked

:38:33. > :38:34.for a full hearing. The judgment is expected to be

:38:35. > :38:36.announced in the coming days. Our reporter Jean MacKenzie has

:38:37. > :38:39.spent some time with Omid. This is his first ever interview,

:38:40. > :38:43.and his speech is very much He's difficult to hear,

:38:44. > :39:30.but we hope you'll stick with him. What's going to happen

:39:31. > :39:31.in the future? How is your condition

:39:32. > :40:45.going to progress? When did you decide

:40:46. > :40:47.that you would rather There have been a number of attempts

:40:48. > :41:00.to pass assisted dying bills through parliament

:41:01. > :41:03.but they have not been successful, why do you think there is opposition

:41:04. > :41:39.to this? And why would it make your

:41:40. > :41:43.life better if you had So you have an incurable disease

:41:44. > :42:20.and part of what you want from the courts is to

:42:21. > :42:22.recognise that people with incurable diseases,

:42:23. > :42:24.even if they have a long time to live,

:42:25. > :42:28.should have the right to choose how But what if, one day,

:42:29. > :42:35.your condition was curable? And how do you feel

:42:36. > :43:20.about growing old with your Saimo Chahal is Omid's lawyer,

:43:21. > :43:47.she also represented Debbie Purdey and Tony Nicklinson,

:43:48. > :43:48.two other people who have gone to court to change

:43:49. > :43:55.the law on Assisted Dying. Just going through the key reasons

:43:56. > :44:00.that you will be putting, that you hope to put to the High Court to try

:44:01. > :44:05.to persuade judges on this. On behalf of Omid, obviously. Yes, so

:44:06. > :44:10.Omid is asking for the ban on assisted suicide to be lifted. He

:44:11. > :44:16.suffered from an incurable condition. So he has years of pain

:44:17. > :44:19.and misery ahead of him. He says that he has made the decision that

:44:20. > :44:27.he doesn't want that sort of life and that he should have the right to

:44:28. > :44:34.be able to decide when he can die. He wants doctors to be able to help

:44:35. > :44:39.him end his life. That's right. He has already attempted suicide once.

:44:40. > :44:43.That was in March 2015. He took about 30 pills. It was unsuccessful.

:44:44. > :44:48.He doesn't want to have another go in case it goes wrong and he ends up

:44:49. > :44:53.in a worse condition so what he wants is the help of a doctor to

:44:54. > :45:01.have a painless and a safe death. You have to recognise that suicide

:45:02. > :45:05.itself is legal and were he able to do it himself painlessly and safely

:45:06. > :45:10.he would do so but he can't because of his condition. He's already

:45:11. > :45:15.tried. He has failed. He wants a safe and painless death. At the

:45:16. > :45:19.moment his only option is to go to Switzerland to do it there. What he

:45:20. > :45:25.says is why should he have to do that? Why should he have to travel

:45:26. > :45:29.in his condition abroad to have a death? He would need an air

:45:30. > :45:36.ambulance, it would be a logistical nightmare for that to be organised.

:45:37. > :45:41.It would be extremely costly. He doesn't have any money. Hence, I

:45:42. > :45:44.think in trying to raise money on a crowdfunding website to pay for his

:45:45. > :45:48.legal case. He can go through at arguments that have become familiar

:45:49. > :45:53.to us in this country around this debate, that what if somebody

:45:54. > :45:57.changes their mind, what if they feel under pressure to have help

:45:58. > :45:58.from a doctor to end their life because family members want access

:45:59. > :46:10.to their inheritance and so on. Those are legitimate arguments and

:46:11. > :46:13.one of the things that Omid's case intends is for those arguments to be

:46:14. > :46:17.aired in front of the courts. So what we're going to be asking for is

:46:18. > :46:21.a hearing, probably lasting two or three weeks in which all of the

:46:22. > :46:26.evidence is tested out. The argument that for example the weak and

:46:27. > :46:30.vulnerable may suffer and so on. Those arguments need to be tested.

:46:31. > :46:35.Parliament has not had the opportunity to do that. You can't do

:46:36. > :46:40.that in a two hour debate and that's why we're saying nobody who wants to

:46:41. > :46:44.present any evidence should do so in this court case so that the court

:46:45. > :46:49.can hear the arguments for and against and then weigh up the

:46:50. > :46:54.evidence and we are certain that if the court had all of the evidence

:46:55. > :46:58.before it that it is likely to conclude that there should be a safe

:46:59. > :47:02.way for people like Omid to end their lives in this country.

:47:03. > :47:06.OK, thank you very much for talking to usment thank you.

:47:07. > :47:18.-- us. Thank you. Theresa May will hold talks with

:47:19. > :47:23.Theresa May this afternoon. Norman Smith is with us. What, I mean,

:47:24. > :47:27.you'd like to be a fly on the wall in that room, what is Mrs May going

:47:28. > :47:31.to say to Nicola Sturgeon? These are two women who over the past few

:47:32. > :47:37.weeks have been taking lumps out of each other and this is the first

:47:38. > :47:40.time they have met since Nicola Sturgeon floated the idea of another

:47:41. > :47:43.independence referendum. Mrs May is going up there to deliver a tough

:47:44. > :47:48.message to Nicola Sturgeon. Downing Street say she will be forthright in

:47:49. > :47:53.rejecting the idea of a second independence referendum. Sticking by

:47:54. > :47:57.her line that now is not the time. Indeed, Mrs Sturgeon's people say

:47:58. > :48:03.they feel Mrs May is not going to want to talk about a referendum. You

:48:04. > :48:06.rather sense this could be another pretty frosty meeting and there

:48:07. > :48:12.won't be a joint conference between the two of them which just fuels the

:48:13. > :48:18.idea that these are two leaders who really are on pretty difficult terms

:48:19. > :48:21.at the moment. And Labour's Brexit spokesman Keir Starmer has been

:48:22. > :48:26.speaking. What has he been saying? We're getting don't to the

:48:27. > :48:30.nitty-gritty of Brexit. We have had this argument over Article 50 which

:48:31. > :48:34.begins the process. Now we get into the deal making what sort of new

:48:35. > :48:42.relationship are we going to have with the rest of the EU? Today we

:48:43. > :48:45.got Labour's tests of what they say Mrs May should include, a managed

:48:46. > :48:49.migration system, ensuring we have good relations with the EU, a deal

:48:50. > :48:53.for the whole of the UK, one test that we enjoy the same benefits as

:48:54. > :48:58.we currently enjoy. A lot of people saying how is that possible? Why

:48:59. > :49:03.would we get the same benefits if we're leaving the single currency

:49:04. > :49:06.and loafing the customs union and the accusation is Labour is just

:49:07. > :49:08.positioning itself so they can vote against the deal when Mrs May gets

:49:09. > :49:14.it. Once a small minority in the

:49:15. > :49:16.Conservative Party, the Brexiteers This ideologically-driven

:49:17. > :49:22.approach to Brexit would be And it would stand as a roadblock

:49:23. > :49:29.to continued co-operation in the important fields

:49:30. > :49:31.of technology, research, medicine, The Prime Minister needs to face

:49:32. > :49:49.down these Brexiteers. The other thing which Keir Starmer

:49:50. > :49:52.said which I thought was interesting, he said to Mrs May,

:49:53. > :49:56.don't rush this. You don't have to do it in two years. It would be

:49:57. > :50:00.difficult to do in two years. Take your time. Have a transitional deal,

:50:01. > :50:02.it is better to get the right deal than to get a rushed deal. Norman

:50:03. > :50:07.Smith at Westminster. United Airlines has been

:50:08. > :50:08.criticised after two girls were reportedly barred from flying

:50:09. > :50:11.for wearing leggings. The incident happened

:50:12. > :50:13.on a flight from Denver Passenger Shannon Watts tweeted,

:50:14. > :50:17."three girls inspected for wearing perfectly acceptable

:50:18. > :50:24.leggings. This behaviour is

:50:25. > :50:27.sexist and sexualises As the mother of four daughters,

:50:28. > :50:31.I'd like to know how many One of the girls is reported

:50:32. > :50:35.to be as young as ten. United Airlines say the girls

:50:36. > :50:37.were travelling on a special pass for employees and their guests

:50:38. > :50:44.which has a dress code. They've said that all regular,

:50:45. > :50:48.paying customers are welcome to wear Celebrities have had

:50:49. > :50:53.their say on the matter. Model Christine Teigen tweeted,

:50:54. > :50:55."I have flown United before with literally no pants on.

:50:56. > :50:58.Just a top as a dress. Next time I will wear

:50:59. > :51:01.only jeans and a scarf." Comedian Sarah Silverman wrote,

:51:02. > :51:05."Hey @united I fly a lot. About to go on tour all April

:51:06. > :51:08.and changing all my @united William Shatner

:51:09. > :51:15.tweeted, "I'm going to Well, the passenger,

:51:16. > :51:23.Shannon Watts, has been I was really stunned,

:51:24. > :51:32.because I'm a mom of four daughters who travel and live and work

:51:33. > :51:37.in leggings and yoga pants. And also because I wanted

:51:38. > :51:41.to understand the policy. I am a Premier member

:51:42. > :51:44.of United and I just thought And so what I tweeted at United,

:51:45. > :51:48.it was really just questioning A lot of people couldn't believe

:51:49. > :51:56.that that was their policy. This just looked like a normal

:51:57. > :52:07.family, so if they were on a special pass, I'm assuming they got

:52:08. > :52:09.it from someone else or they weren't told

:52:10. > :52:11.what the rules were. Because the father was dressed very

:52:12. > :52:14.casually, with shorts on. I think the issue here is,

:52:15. > :52:16.why single out leggings? Women wear leggings

:52:17. > :52:19.in modern-day America. And the idea that it's inappropriate

:52:20. > :52:23.I think is a sexist, gender-based policy,

:52:24. > :52:25.and it seemed to be just Let's speak to the broadcaster

:52:26. > :52:30.and journalist, Beverley Turner who joins us on Skype from West

:52:31. > :52:35.London. Are you going to stand up for

:52:36. > :52:40.leggings? I can stand up for leggings. I am wearing them today!

:52:41. > :52:47.Show me a woman who doesn't want to wear leggings on an aeroplane? There

:52:48. > :52:54.is nothing more comfortable to wear on aeroplanes than leggings? I have

:52:55. > :52:57.got two girls and I can't get one in anything other than leggings. What

:52:58. > :53:03.has been highlighted it does contain some prejudice. There isn't a male

:53:04. > :53:07.equivalent to the leggings. I heard some commentators saying they don't

:53:08. > :53:12.want to see girls as young as ten wearing tight leggings as though it

:53:13. > :53:15.is somehow a sexual statement. I think that says more about the

:53:16. > :53:20.blokes who are observing the girls than the girls themselves. I don't

:53:21. > :53:24.want my girls to think of being a sexualised item of clothing. There

:53:25. > :53:28.are enough things that they want to wear like cropped tops and short

:53:29. > :53:33.skirts which I'm less happy about. I say we should be defending the

:53:34. > :53:37.leggings. So there is sexism here, you think, but also there is

:53:38. > :53:41.snootiness. Some people think that leggings are common? And sometimes

:53:42. > :53:50.leggings are common, Victoria, let's be honest. We have seen sights, but

:53:51. > :53:54.again, there isn't a male equivalent and actually we should be teaching

:53:55. > :53:57.girls to wear what is comfortable and yes, they should dress

:53:58. > :54:00.appropriately for the particular circumstances and this airline,

:54:01. > :54:08.let's face it, Emirates have old-fashioned policies when it comes

:54:09. > :54:13.to telling women how to dress. They are expected to wear high heels.

:54:14. > :54:18.There is something very out dated about the dress policy, you think

:54:19. > :54:24.that most airlines still like to uphold and hopefully this has shone

:54:25. > :54:28.a light on their policies and maybe they need to go back and have a look

:54:29. > :54:32.at them. We didn't quite see your leggings. You might have to stand on

:54:33. > :54:38.the chair because of where your camera is! Go and stand up so we can

:54:39. > :54:43.see you standing up for leggings. They are just plain black leggings.

:54:44. > :54:51.Show me a woman who doesn't love wearing leggings. As long as they

:54:52. > :54:55.wore something that covered their bottom over the leggings which is

:54:56. > :55:01.sinister. Wearing leggings and a T-shirt for a ten-year-old girl,

:55:02. > :55:09.that's fine. We shouldn't be telling girls that need to see themselves

:55:10. > :55:12.and feeling about their body as sexualised, they are wearing

:55:13. > :55:19.trousers where you can see the shape of bottom. When when I saw this, I

:55:20. > :55:24.thought a person for Donald Trump had got his way and women could only

:55:25. > :55:30.dress as he deemed appropriate. The idea that they can be common or not

:55:31. > :55:33.particularly smart. Donald Trump would be happy to ban the leggings

:55:34. > :55:39.because it doesn't fit the idea of women that he likes. Do not put

:55:40. > :55:41.ideas into that man's head! Thank you, Beverley. Beverley

:55:42. > :55:48.Turner. Lots of you getting in touch on form

:55:49. > :55:52.696, the risk assesment form which police ask music venues

:55:53. > :56:01.to fill out. A lot of people feel it is a racist

:56:02. > :56:09.form. Mark Carney Simon says, "Got in touch with us and he is asked to

:56:10. > :56:14.fill out the form regularly. Hi Simon, what do you think of it? I've

:56:15. > :56:19.got no problem filling out the form myself, but I have a problem with it

:56:20. > :56:22.not being mass for everybody who is per fortunatelying. That's my only

:56:23. > :56:30.issue that I have with it. Right, OK. I've got some comments here, a

:56:31. > :56:35.texter, "696 is racist and I'm a 66-year-old gran and white. I hope

:56:36. > :56:40.they're not pulling my leg." Ann says, "What a joke this 696. These

:56:41. > :56:47.guys are trying to make a living and just want to please the people. ."

:56:48. > :56:55.She says she is a grime lover at 59. Another viewer says, "I think 696 is

:56:56. > :57:00.another way of racial profiling." What can you do to protest? Well, I

:57:01. > :57:04.mean, to protest it is ridiculous because it's something that the

:57:05. > :57:08.authorities want. They want to have it. If the authorities want

:57:09. > :57:14.something, and the promoter for example has to provide something and

:57:15. > :57:19.his artist have to provide something and you're passionate about what you

:57:20. > :57:23.do, like I am and there are others who are passionate about what they

:57:24. > :57:26.do, you have to fill out the form. They want to promote to their crowd.

:57:27. > :57:30.So you have got to accept it and get on with it? We have got to accept it

:57:31. > :57:33.and get on with it, whether you like it or not, and whether you

:57:34. > :57:41.appreciate it or not. The thing is Victoria, the problem that I have

:57:42. > :57:45.and the issue that a lot of artists, particularly the grime ones, not

:57:46. > :57:48.everybody is getting this sort of racial profiling and this sort of

:57:49. > :57:55.attention in regards to them performing. If for example Abigail

:57:56. > :58:04.who does folk music wants to go and do her show a the local pub, she is

:58:05. > :58:08.not getting a 696 why should Stormzy and myself and So Solid and so

:58:09. > :58:12.forth? That's where the problem lies. Thank you very much, Mark

:58:13. > :58:15.Carney Simon Says. Thank you for coming on the programme.

:58:16. > :58:17.Tomorrow, in an exclusive interview, a rape victim,

:58:18. > :58:19.whose attack led to a judge saying drunk women were putting

:58:20. > :58:28.themselves in danger, defends the comments, telling us

:58:29. > :58:31.Thank you for watching today. We're back tomorrow at 9am.