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:00:13. > :00:14.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:15. > :00:17.Our top story today - after 44 years of membership,

:00:18. > :00:20.Britain will today formally serve notice on Brussels that it's

:00:21. > :00:32.Here is what voters think. I'm happy that we're moving in the right

:00:33. > :00:37.direction. I want to see the Government hold their nerve and not

:00:38. > :00:40.buckle under pressure from the EU. It is a historic mistake and two

:00:41. > :00:47.years is not long enough in negotiations. I hope we get the best

:00:48. > :00:52.deal for Britain. Don't we all? In Downing Street the Prime Minister

:00:53. > :00:56.calls for an end to the disunity and division that scarred the Brexit

:00:57. > :00:59.referendum as Britain begins its departure from the European Union.

:01:00. > :01:09.Also on the programme today, ex-royal Marine Alexander Blackman

:01:10. > :01:11.has spoken of his "profound sense of his "profound sense

:01:12. > :01:13.of relief" after his sentence for shooting dead a wounded Taliban

:01:14. > :01:16.fighter in Afghanistan was reduced - he'll be out in weeks and we'll

:01:17. > :01:24.speak to his wife Claire Blackman Relief initially. I think it took a

:01:25. > :01:25.little while for the news to sink in, but absolutely delighted. The

:01:26. > :01:28.result we were hoping for. And the dangers of co-sleeping

:01:29. > :01:39.with your new baby. When I woke up, I'd discovered that

:01:40. > :01:45.she wasn't breathing. I remember like lifting her up and then just

:01:46. > :01:48.running through to Andy and screaming that she was gone.

:01:49. > :01:50.Health professionals tell us they fear parents are lying

:01:51. > :01:53.about sleeping with their children for fear of being judged.

:01:54. > :02:11.We'll bring you the full story before 10am.

:02:12. > :02:13.Hello and welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am.

:02:14. > :02:21.Throughout the morning really keen to hear your views as Article 50

:02:22. > :02:25.is triggered and a little later in the programme we'll introduce

:02:26. > :02:29.you to an incredible man - this is 53-year-old Bill Kochevar -

:02:30. > :02:31.he's paralysed - but he's been able to feed himself

:02:32. > :02:33.by using his thoughts to send messages from implants

:02:34. > :02:41.Well bring you his full story before 11am.

:02:42. > :02:44.Do get in touch on everything we're talking about this morning -

:02:45. > :02:47.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:02:48. > :02:53.Our top story today - Theresa May has signed the letter

:02:54. > :02:56.that will formally begin the UK's departure from the European Union.

:02:57. > :02:58.The letter will be delivered by hand to the President

:02:59. > :03:00.of the European Council, Donald Tusk, at 12.30

:03:01. > :03:06.At the same time, the Prime Minister will make a statement to the Commons

:03:07. > :03:09.in which she'll urge the country to come together as it embarks

:03:10. > :03:18.More than four decades ago the UK first signed up

:03:19. > :03:23.Today, those years of membership will start to come to an end.

:03:24. > :03:28.David Cameron's promise back in 2013 was key in getting to this point.

:03:29. > :03:35.He said Britain would get to choose whether to stay in or leave

:03:36. > :03:37.the European Union, hoping to end years of debate

:03:38. > :03:40.It is time for the British people to have their say.

:03:41. > :03:44.It is time for us to settle this question about Britain and Europe.

:03:45. > :03:50.So last year, politicians of all persuasions took

:03:51. > :03:53.to Britain's streets, making the case for Leave

:03:54. > :03:55.and Remain and then in June, the country decided.

:03:56. > :03:59.The British people have spoken and the answer is we're out.

:04:00. > :04:12.I think the country requires fresh leadership to take

:04:13. > :04:19.The new Prime Minister pledged from the start to honour

:04:20. > :04:26.Brexit means Brexit and we're going to make a success of it.

:04:27. > :04:29.And that process will begin in earnest today with a letter sent

:04:30. > :04:34.from here to Brussels formally saying the UK wants to leave the EU.

:04:35. > :04:36.Then some two years of negotiations will follow for a whole host

:04:37. > :04:43.Everything from the rights of EU citizens living here and elsewhere

:04:44. > :04:50.to Britain's financial commitments to the EU and its future trading

:04:51. > :04:53.relationship and there are decades of EU legislation and regulations

:04:54. > :04:57.The process of leaving is unprecedented.

:04:58. > :04:59.It will be complex and at times, uncertain.

:05:00. > :05:01.There will be challenges and opportunities and with

:05:02. > :05:21.the Prime Minister's signature on this letter, it all begins today.

:05:22. > :05:23.In a moment we'll speak to our Correspondent, Dan Johnson

:05:24. > :05:25.who's at the European Council buildings in Brussels -

:05:26. > :05:28.but first let's head to Downing Street and our political

:05:29. > :05:36.There is a Cabinet meeting going on. Presumably that's when Theresa May

:05:37. > :05:40.is telling her colleagues what's in the letter? This letter has been a

:05:41. > :05:44.closely guarded secret which Mrs May and only her closest circle have

:05:45. > :05:47.been involved in. So for many Cabinet Ministers this is the first

:05:48. > :05:51.time to see what Mrs May has written. A lot of the letter, I

:05:52. > :05:56.think, we can guess. It's going to be a beefing up of what Mrs May has

:05:57. > :05:59.already said about taking back control of immigration, not being

:06:00. > :06:03.part of the single market, those sort of things will be familiar. The

:06:04. > :06:07.really interesting part of the letter will be what it doesn't say.

:06:08. > :06:12.Are those areas where there is May is vague or ambiguous because those

:06:13. > :06:16.are the area where she has got flex and room to give, those are the

:06:17. > :06:20.areas where she is prepared to do a deal. The sort of things we will be

:06:21. > :06:26.looking at today is whether there is any talk about money or financial

:06:27. > :06:29.contributions or will Mrs May be prepared to make some bill, pay a

:06:30. > :06:33.bill for the Budget. People are going in and out. That was Boris

:06:34. > :06:36.Johnson just leaving there. Will she be prepared to make financial

:06:37. > :06:41.contributions to ensure key sectors of the British economy can still

:06:42. > :06:44.trade with the single market? What will she actually say about

:06:45. > :06:48.immigration? Will EU nationals continue to be able to come here for

:06:49. > :06:52.the next couple of years? Might they be given priority in any new

:06:53. > :06:56.immigration rules? Will the European Court of Justice still have some

:06:57. > :07:00.sort of role perhaps as a trade body and I suppose lastly, will there be

:07:01. > :07:04.any room for a transitional time? In other words we won't have to leave

:07:05. > :07:09.in two years, it could be a slightly slower process. So we will be

:07:10. > :07:14.examining that letter in minute detail to get some clues as to the

:07:15. > :07:18.sort of areas where Mrs May might be prepared to strike a deal and a

:07:19. > :07:21.compromise. Thank you, for the moment, Norman, more from Norman

:07:22. > :07:26.throughout the morning here on the programme.

:07:27. > :07:34.Let's go to Brussels. It has to bear a wet signature. So the stroke of

:07:35. > :07:42.Mrs May's pen. Dan Johnson, wubz the letter is received. What is after

:07:43. > :07:44.that? -- once the letter is received, what happens after that?

:07:45. > :07:47.We will get reaction from politicians in Brussels, EU

:07:48. > :07:51.politicians about what is in the letter and what they think about it,

:07:52. > :07:54.but we won't get detail until a few weeks down the line when the other

:07:55. > :07:58.European nations have had a chance to consume what's in the letter to

:07:59. > :08:00.think about what their in thing position is going to be and then to

:08:01. > :08:04.come up with a set of guidelines that they want to be implemented as

:08:05. > :08:08.this negotiation goes forward. Hopefully, that signature has dried

:08:09. > :08:11.on that letter, the UK's ambassador to the EU has come into the council

:08:12. > :08:15.building with a bag, we don't know if the letter is in that, but we

:08:16. > :08:20.suspect it is. He has got a couple of meetings to attend and then he

:08:21. > :08:25.has got a small window when he will physically hand over the letter to

:08:26. > :08:30.Donald Tusk, the Connell president and that's the moment when the clock

:08:31. > :08:33.starts tick that the two years of negotiation begin, unless everyone

:08:34. > :08:36.can agree on an extension. Lots of politician in Brussels think that

:08:37. > :08:40.two years isn't long enough to get the detail worked out and to reach a

:08:41. > :08:44.deal so it's possible they will seek an extension, but everyone would

:08:45. > :08:49.have to agree on that. If they can't agree then in two years time the UK

:08:50. > :08:52.would drop ut of the EU, suddenly the so-called hard Brexit, that's

:08:53. > :08:56.what everyone is trying to avoid. They say they want to negotiate a

:08:57. > :08:59.deal, and they want a smooth divorce, but there is so much

:09:00. > :09:02.complex detail to be worked out. It will be tough and it will take a

:09:03. > :09:06.long time and there is a lot of talking to go on and most of it will

:09:07. > :09:12.go on behind closed doors after the symbolism and the images that will

:09:13. > :09:17.go on around the world, we won't hear a lot of what is going on in

:09:18. > :09:20.the negotiations. In two years time, we will have a deal on the table.

:09:21. > :09:24.Supposedly for politicians to approve or not. And than that will

:09:25. > :09:29.be it, Britain will be out of the EU. So although practically, nothing

:09:30. > :09:32.actually changes today, no one will notice any difference, there is a

:09:33. > :09:37.huge change on the way in two years time and it all starts here today.

:09:38. > :09:49.Cheers, Dan. We will talk to voters in the next half an hour.

:09:50. > :09:52.Let us know your views. How are you feeling today? Once the letter is

:09:53. > :09:54.received from Theresa May in Brussels at 12.30. Let us know. Get

:09:55. > :10:02.in touch in the usual ways. Community leaders and children plan

:10:03. > :10:06.to link hands across Westminster Bridge this afternoon

:10:07. > :10:08.as a memorial to those killed and injured in

:10:09. > :10:11.the attack there a week ago. Khalid Masood ran over

:10:12. > :10:13.and killed three pedestrians, before stabbing a policeman to death

:10:14. > :10:15.outside the Houses of Parliament. Inquests into his victims' deaths

:10:16. > :10:19.will also begin today. The former boss of the language

:10:20. > :10:22.school in Luton where Khalid Masood taught for two years,

:10:23. > :10:25.has told the BBC that he doesn't believe the attack was motivated

:10:26. > :10:27.by religious extremism. The man, who wishes

:10:28. > :10:29.to remain anonymous, has not seen Masood since 2012,

:10:30. > :10:31.but says he wouldn't have believed him to be

:10:32. > :10:40.capable of such violence. An American man, who was paralysed

:10:41. > :10:43.from the shoulders down, has been able to feed himself

:10:44. > :10:46.and hold onto a cup of coffee, after surgeons placed implants

:10:47. > :10:48.in his brain and arm. Bill Kochevar was unable

:10:49. > :10:51.to use any of his limbs, after he hit a lorry

:10:52. > :10:59.while riding his bike. Doctors say it is the first time

:11:00. > :11:02.that implants controlled by the brain have been used to help someone

:11:03. > :11:09.reach and grab objects once again. Health professionals have told this

:11:10. > :11:11.programme they think parents are lying to them about sleeping

:11:12. > :11:14.with their babies for fear In the UK, just under 300 babies die

:11:15. > :11:18.suddenly and unexpectedly in their sleep every year and NHS

:11:19. > :11:20.guidelines say there is an "association" between those

:11:21. > :11:34.sudden deaths and co-sleeping. The language being used by the

:11:35. > :11:37.Health Service is simply gobbledygook. It means the public

:11:38. > :11:43.don't understand what is going on. Conservationists say they've found

:11:44. > :11:45.a new breeding population of a critically endangered

:11:46. > :11:48.species of tiger. Hidden cameras filmed a small

:11:49. > :11:50.population of the Indochinese tiger. A mother and at least six cubs

:11:51. > :11:53.were found in the jungle That's a summary of the latest BBC

:11:54. > :12:18.News - more at 9.30am. You are telling us your views today

:12:19. > :12:23.as Article 50 is triggered. Get in touch using Twitter.

:12:24. > :12:29.Let's get some sport now with John - and the video referee played a key

:12:30. > :12:35.part in the match between France and Spain last night.

:12:36. > :12:41.Following another successful trial in the match between France and

:12:42. > :12:45.Spain. The outcome could have been different were it not for the use of

:12:46. > :12:49.the technology employed by the on-field referee. France thought

:12:50. > :12:54.they had taken the lead when they scored and that goal was given by

:12:55. > :12:58.the on-field referee, but as you can see it was overturned following some

:12:59. > :13:01.assistance by the video referee who sat in a truck outside the ground.

:13:02. > :13:07.The second one was that one, as well, that goal was given for off

:13:08. > :13:12.side, but was then overturned using that technology which meant Spain

:13:13. > :13:16.came away with a 2-0 win. It would have been very different had the

:13:17. > :13:19.technology been used. It goes to show that it is likely it will be

:13:20. > :13:24.used going forward quite considerably.

:13:25. > :13:28.Do you think we will see it in the British game? There is talk of that,

:13:29. > :13:31.yes. The FA said they would be really interested in using the

:13:32. > :13:36.technology, a trial of their own, from the third round of the FA Cup

:13:37. > :13:39.onwards next year and as well, the Fifa president, desperate as well to

:13:40. > :13:45.implement this at the next Cup. You might remember, of course, there was

:13:46. > :13:51.that big incident, wasn't there? We all remember it, the goal from Frank

:13:52. > :13:55.Lampard at the 2010 World Cup, that led to the introduction of goal-line

:13:56. > :14:00.technology. They want to go a step further and we could see the use of

:14:01. > :14:04.this technology and an ouf field referee being able to overturn the

:14:05. > :14:08.decisions on the field of play, and not just goals, but red card

:14:09. > :14:18.incidents. We could see it at the World Cup as well.

:14:19. > :14:22.Cheers, John. A viewer, "Brexit Day. Wonderful.

:14:23. > :14:28.Independence once again. Europe needs us more than we need them. A

:14:29. > :14:34.day of history, today marks the day when the UK serves its divorce maips

:14:35. > :14:36.on the rest of the EU." The Prime Minister has already signed the

:14:37. > :14:40.letter. A day of history, of freedom,

:14:41. > :14:43.of stepping into the unknown - call it what you want -

:14:44. > :14:46.today marks the day when the UK serves its divorce papers

:14:47. > :14:48.on the rest of the EU. The Prime Minister has already

:14:49. > :14:51.signed the letter that will trigger Article 50 and our two year

:14:52. > :14:54.countdown to exiting the EU - and it'll be delivered to the EU

:14:55. > :14:57.in just over three hours' time. We'll reflect a range

:14:58. > :14:59.of your views throughout But first, are we heading

:15:00. > :15:02.towards a conscious uncoupling Brexit, Britain's divorce from

:15:03. > :15:07.the European Union. As seismic for the country

:15:08. > :15:09.as this marriage split, as closely watched as theirs,

:15:10. > :15:13.will it be as smooth Or will it be a bitter

:15:14. > :15:21.break-up instead? There is a lot to sort

:15:22. > :15:25.out, like money. The EU is likely to slap an exit

:15:26. > :15:29.bill on the table for money the UK has already promised to pay to EU

:15:30. > :15:32.coffers, and Brussels' opening bid More specifically, EU citizens

:15:33. > :15:42.living in the UK and UK Are they going to be able

:15:43. > :15:55.to stay where they are Both sides say they want this

:15:56. > :15:59.side of the divorce deal OK, so we are splitting up,

:16:00. > :16:03.but what sort of future relationship How will the UK and

:16:04. > :16:06.the EU do business? A full trade agreement

:16:07. > :16:09.between the two is going to take years to figure out,

:16:10. > :16:11.but if there is a divorce deal that might help

:16:12. > :16:14.smooth over the split. This is also a divorce

:16:15. > :16:16.with a deadline. There are just two years to hammer

:16:17. > :16:19.this out, and the clock It's 279 days since the UK

:16:20. > :16:32.voted to leave the EU - at the time there were lots

:16:33. > :16:34.of promises about what lay Let's speak to our political guru

:16:35. > :16:39.Norman Smith who is in Downing Street for us -

:16:40. > :16:49.where Theresa May has been It has just finished. Fill us in.

:16:50. > :16:55.Thank you very much. It is blast of day, the big day when we begin our

:16:56. > :17:00.departure, but what sort of deal might we get? What is it that Brexit

:17:01. > :17:04.Britain might look like? Well, to get an idea, we have to go back and

:17:05. > :17:09.look at some of the promises that were made to voters in the run-up to

:17:10. > :17:12.the referendum about how Britain might be different and the sort of

:17:13. > :17:15.opportunities and benefits we might gain from leaving the EU. Here is a

:17:16. > :17:30.brief reminder. There it is, five things we could do

:17:31. > :17:33.on day one. We can reform our immigration system so it is fair and

:17:34. > :17:41.balanced, and keeps the numbers down to a sustainable level. Threw if we

:17:42. > :17:49.want to cut VAT to help families who their homes, we should be free to do

:17:50. > :17:52.so. We want our country back. If we leave the European Union, can we

:17:53. > :18:00.give the NHS millions more each week? Yes we can. Can we create more

:18:01. > :18:04.trade deals? Yes we can. Can we have a new fair points-based immigration

:18:05. > :18:08.system? Can we deport dangerous foreign criminals, can we deport the

:18:09. > :18:12.very poorest in our society by making

:18:13. > :18:18.-- give them a tax cut that will transform their lives for the

:18:19. > :18:27.better? Yes we can. # Promises, promises, promises, that

:18:28. > :18:32.is all I get from you. Let's go through those pledges in a bit more

:18:33. > :18:36.detail to nail them down. Legend one was money, the famous pledge to get

:18:37. > :18:41.?350 million every week to put into health service. Pledge number two

:18:42. > :18:44.was the economy, that we would be able to strike our own trade deals

:18:45. > :18:51.with countries beyond the EU to create new job opportunities. Pledge

:18:52. > :18:56.number three, Borders, to take back control of immigration. So it is the

:18:57. > :19:04.British government to decide soon comes in and we end EU freedom of

:19:05. > :19:08.movement. Pledge number four, security, we would be able to kick

:19:09. > :19:14.out violent foreign criminals because they could no longer use EU

:19:15. > :19:21.rules to stay here. Lastly, taxes. We would be able to cut VAT on

:19:22. > :19:25.domestic fuel which at the moment EU stops is doing. But how easy will

:19:26. > :19:33.that be to deliver? I suppose one of the big difficulties facing purposes

:19:34. > :19:37.may, we know that European leaders are cobbling together a Brexit bill

:19:38. > :19:44.for our departures, some suggesting it could even come to ?50 billion to

:19:45. > :19:47.leave the EU. Listen to the president of the European

:19:48. > :19:55.Commission, shall claw Junker, when pressed about that recently. --

:19:56. > :20:03.Jean-Claude Juncker. There will be no sanctions, no punishment, nothing

:20:04. > :20:06.of that kind. Britain has to now and I suppose the government does know

:20:07. > :20:13.it, they have two on the former commitments. To the June ?50

:20:14. > :20:21.billion? It is around that, but that is not the main story. We have to

:20:22. > :20:22.calculate scientifically what the British commitments were and then

:20:23. > :20:44.the bill has to be paid. The immigration publication would

:20:45. > :20:48.mean that there would be fewer immigrants coming in but ministers

:20:49. > :20:53.are much more cautious about that because they are worried about what

:20:54. > :20:59.in fact it may have on the National Health Service. Listen to David

:21:00. > :21:04.Davis suggesting that far from going down, immigration might at times go

:21:05. > :21:07.up. Have a listen. I think most people are in favour of migration,

:21:08. > :21:11.so long as it is managed and the point is it will need to be managed.

:21:12. > :21:15.My job is to bring the job back and it is for the Home Secretary to

:21:16. > :21:19.decide on what the policy will be but I can imagine it will not be in

:21:20. > :21:28.anything other than the national interest. For time to time, we will

:21:29. > :21:32.need more, and from time to time we will need less migrants. That is in

:21:33. > :21:37.everybody's interests, for the migrants and for the United Kingdom.

:21:38. > :21:42.Timing could be a problem for Mrs May. We know that she wants us out

:21:43. > :21:46.in two years' time, so by the spring of 2019 we should be out, but a lot

:21:47. > :21:50.of people are worried is it going to be possible to do all this in two

:21:51. > :21:54.years because the EU are not going to sit down and negotiate with us

:21:55. > :21:58.seriously until probably after the summer, the French and German

:21:59. > :22:03.elections, which means it could only be about 12 months to nail down a

:22:04. > :22:08.massive, massive deal. Some people are suggesting actually come you

:22:09. > :22:15.know what, we might happen to have a transitional time to give us a bit

:22:16. > :22:19.more space to engineer our departure from the European Union. Have a

:22:20. > :22:24.listen to Foreign Office diplomat Simon Fraser. It is certain we will

:22:25. > :22:29.not have resolved everything in the period before the expiry of the

:22:30. > :22:33.Article 50 process. As we know, the EU side want to start with

:22:34. > :22:36.negotiating the terms of the separation, and the British side on

:22:37. > :22:41.top of that wants to move rapidly to discuss the future relationship,

:22:42. > :22:48.both political and economic, between Britain and the EU. And that is a

:22:49. > :22:51.very complex second set of negotiations. There is no way in my

:22:52. > :22:58.view that we will complete all of that in years. The truth is we know

:22:59. > :23:01.what we were promised in the referendum that we now into an

:23:02. > :23:09.entirely different ball game, it we are into deal-making and negotiation

:23:10. > :23:15.and compromise, a sort of tough series of talks with EU leaders who

:23:16. > :23:18.have a very different set of pirate is, which inevitably means we will

:23:19. > :23:23.not get what we want probably. Significantly this morning we heard

:23:24. > :23:26.from the Chancellor Philip Hammond, who in a direct contradiction of the

:23:27. > :23:32.Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said this morning, you cannot have your

:23:33. > :23:37.cake and eat it. In other words, we will get some things but we won't

:23:38. > :23:44.get other things. This is what Stuart says. Brexit will be

:23:45. > :23:47.fantastic. Carl in Surbiton says I'm feeling utter despair, sadness and

:23:48. > :23:51.disbelief that the UK is actually going down this road. Those who

:23:52. > :23:55.voted to leave will rue the day that they stupidly decided to vote for

:23:56. > :24:00.it. Those of us who can clearly see the benefits of staying in our being

:24:01. > :24:05.dragged into a messy, divisive, reclusive and selfish process.

:24:06. > :24:09.Stuart in Bedford says I am fed up with the gutless moaners spreading

:24:10. > :24:15.doom and gloom, they need some backbone and British spirit.

:24:16. > :24:17.Let's speak to former cabinet minister, and Conservative

:24:18. > :24:19.MP Iain Duncan Smith, who was a prominent Leave campaigner.

:24:20. > :24:25.I have slightly moved on because we have been knowing that this day has

:24:26. > :24:29.been coming and in a sense it is a formality because the rest is about

:24:30. > :24:32.how that relationship between the EU and the UK settles in the next two

:24:33. > :24:36.years and what are the arrangements we have to make. I must say I did

:24:37. > :24:44.find that Norman's statements today were really quite depressingly

:24:45. > :24:48.negative. The reality is, we always look at it from the UK side, this is

:24:49. > :24:52.what they want, their troubles and problems. The truth is the European

:24:53. > :24:55.Union also has to arrive at a position weather don't want to

:24:56. > :24:59.damage themselves in the course of this. What we are getting, the

:25:00. > :25:04.finance Minister of Germany the other day said let's be absolutely

:25:05. > :25:09.clear, this has to be a proper arrangement, we don't want a

:25:10. > :25:14.stand-off with the UK, we absolutely need to continue levels of trade,

:25:15. > :25:18.and he said importantly that the City of London, the financial

:25:19. > :25:24.services are vital for the European Union for cheap capital. We want to

:25:25. > :25:28.give them like that. So there might be some special arrangements for the

:25:29. > :25:32.City of London for example. A general sense building among the

:25:33. > :25:36.nations of Europe as opposed to some of those characters of the

:25:37. > :25:39.commission saying hang on a second, the UK is arguably the single most

:25:40. > :25:42.important trading partner for us we want to make sure that continues.

:25:43. > :25:47.Yes, they are leaving but it does not mean that we end up having some

:25:48. > :25:51.kind of war between us -- some kind of wall. Pascal Lambie in France

:25:52. > :25:56.said exactly the same in the IMF previously, he said at the end of

:25:57. > :25:59.two years we want zero tariffs and access on financial services and we

:26:00. > :26:03.can sort the rest out as we go along. Just explain why the EU would

:26:04. > :26:08.be likely to give us something pretty close to what we have now

:26:09. > :26:14.when they sort of have to to show EU membership mean something? I

:26:15. > :26:19.disagree. This is again be completely narrow view about what

:26:20. > :26:22.does the EU represent? We have chosen to leave, and the reality for

:26:23. > :26:26.most neighbours of the EU, it is a political project. Only in this

:26:27. > :26:31.country do we settle and spend our time talking about the marketplace.

:26:32. > :26:35.The marketplace was always a device to drive this coming together of

:26:36. > :26:39.nation states where the point where there is a supranational process.

:26:40. > :26:46.That is what they want, those people that believe in the EU. So for them,

:26:47. > :26:52.they already think that the UK is taking away into a direction because

:26:53. > :26:56.they are not going to be a part of the supranational is taking place.

:26:57. > :26:59.The rest about access to markets is a wholly different issue to settle.

:27:00. > :27:03.My point here is they don't believe by the way that other nations of

:27:04. > :27:06.Europe will want to abandon the European Union, because they believe

:27:07. > :27:13.in the project. We don't. That means it is a different discussion that

:27:14. > :27:23.takes place as a result. What is the goal? Immediately to settle the

:27:24. > :27:29.discussions and what they are about. The German finance minister has said

:27:30. > :27:32.Inbee .com you can't have a settlement, because the two are

:27:33. > :27:35.completely in the related and you will find that is exactly how the

:27:36. > :27:40.discussions will pan out. The goal at the end of it is that we leave

:27:41. > :27:46.the European Union, out of the customs union and the single market

:27:47. > :27:50.as members, but actually accessing and having a relationship with the

:27:51. > :27:58.EU and then with us in terms of free trade, and also in terms of the

:27:59. > :28:02.services industry. More importantly, this is already grasped by various

:28:03. > :28:05.national leaders, they need the UK involved in the exercises on

:28:06. > :28:08.defence, anti-terrorism and intelligence, so we have to remain

:28:09. > :28:13.good friends, cooperating and trading, but just not as direct

:28:14. > :28:17.members of the EU, thus a slightly different path lies ahead of us than

:28:18. > :28:21.it does for the European Union. Should Theresa May go ahead and

:28:22. > :28:25.agree quickly the Brexit Bill, whatever it may be, 50 billion

:28:26. > :28:31.euros, 60 billion euros, in a show of good faith? Actually I think that

:28:32. > :28:38.is a back of the envelope John -- job done by the Commissioner. It is

:28:39. > :28:42.not going to be like that. There is no legal device why we have to pay

:28:43. > :28:46.any money at all to the European Union, but at the end of it all

:28:47. > :28:52.there is another pursuit us. We have put a lot of money into the European

:28:53. > :28:56.Union, half ?1 trillion. Therefore we have invested in assets that are

:28:57. > :29:00.wholly-owned by us of the European Union, such as intellectual property

:29:01. > :29:04.rights, elements of things we have built, invested in. There is a

:29:05. > :29:08.corresponding question for us which is have you valued the assets that

:29:09. > :29:11.we own in the European Union? When you get down to this kind of

:29:12. > :29:15.discussion about money, you have two balance assets versus supposedly

:29:16. > :29:20.abilities before you come to a figure so this is not quite so clear

:29:21. > :29:25.cut as the commission might lead you to believe. Do you get cross when

:29:26. > :29:29.you hear the Chancellor Philip Hammond saying you cannot have your

:29:30. > :29:36.cake and eat it. I have never really understood that phrase. He is saying

:29:37. > :29:40.we are going to have to compromise. Of course, but that doesn't mean to

:29:41. > :29:43.say you can't do what you want. I have not heard the interview so I

:29:44. > :29:47.don't really know. My point about this is that you move away from this

:29:48. > :29:51.phraseology and ask ourselves what is this all about at the end of the

:29:52. > :29:55.day. It is about what the EU thinks is good for them and what the UK

:29:56. > :30:00.thinks is good for us come and the coming together of those to of the

:30:01. > :30:05.overlaps. The requirements from both sides are beginning to become very

:30:06. > :30:09.clear. We both I think at the end of it all want to have good easy access

:30:10. > :30:14.to the market, they do more trade with us, one million jobs in Bavaria

:30:15. > :30:18.alone rely on their car exports to the UK, so there is an overlap of

:30:19. > :30:21.genuine common interest, financial services, they are the ones that

:30:22. > :30:25.mostly come to the city for their capital. They need cheap capital. It

:30:26. > :30:30.is important to them to continue to do that, so the these things begin

:30:31. > :30:33.to settle down, then we ask ourselves the question, as we leave

:30:34. > :30:37.the EU doesn't the EU want to make sure they have full support and

:30:38. > :30:41.access to our markets and also arrangements with us on a wider

:30:42. > :30:44.range of issues about defence, international relations, problems

:30:45. > :30:48.over Russia? So I think those things begin to become the main principles

:30:49. > :30:53.that lie behind what is at the end of the day a good agreement. The

:30:54. > :30:56.good agreement to finish is a one where both sides say we have got

:30:57. > :31:10.something out of it and that is what we will do now. David says it is sad

:31:11. > :31:14.and apprehensive. Consumer confidence kept the economy going so

:31:15. > :31:19.far, but it is no guarantee this will continue. I predict we will be

:31:20. > :31:23.worse off. Debbie in Luton says, "We are pleased that today has arrived

:31:24. > :31:28.without being successfully scuppered by those who don't want to leave the

:31:29. > :31:33.EU. Well done Theresa May. Hello world." Says Debbie in Luton. What

:31:34. > :31:37.do we think of that? By trying to pose that this is making us look

:31:38. > :31:48.more global, you're not fooling anybody. It is this protectionist

:31:49. > :31:54.mentality makes us look more insular. It has been very much more

:31:55. > :31:58.a focus on immigration and I think that is something hasn't

:31:59. > :32:03.disappeared. I think you can be patriotic withouting in

:32:04. > :32:07.nationalistic in view. I disagree there. I'd like to see Britain being

:32:08. > :32:12.more international. We're not pulling up any draw bridges. I mean

:32:13. > :32:16.for a start we should renew our relationship with the old

:32:17. > :32:20.Commonwealth countries. We should look to major markets. I see the

:32:21. > :32:25.Britain I want as being an International UK sort of thing. I

:32:26. > :32:31.just think overall I just feel anxious about it. There is no... Is

:32:32. > :32:35.there That your overriding emotion today, anxiety? There is no real

:32:36. > :32:42.plan. A bunch of kids, "I really want to do it. I really want to do

:32:43. > :32:51.it." And suddenly mum says, "You can do it." And they're like, "I don't

:32:52. > :32:55.know what to do." You voted leave? I think there is a lot for them to get

:32:56. > :33:02.through and we will watch it closely and see how they go about it, but

:33:03. > :33:05.I'm hopeful and excited. I'm really concerned for politicians to think

:33:06. > :33:10.about what will be best for as many people as possible. Not just about

:33:11. > :33:14.what is best for us in Britain where they get votes, but if we can form

:33:15. > :33:18.trade deals where people in the poorest parts of the world will get

:33:19. > :33:21.more for their produce for example rather than just keeping all the

:33:22. > :33:24.wealth in Europe as we have been doing for a long time. I would like

:33:25. > :33:27.to see some of these billions of pounds that are going on admin going

:33:28. > :33:31.to the people in the world who are really, really suffering right now

:33:32. > :33:37.because we've pretty well off in the UK in general. Britain can try and

:33:38. > :33:40.make trade deals with whichever country it wants to, it is just that

:33:41. > :33:43.it will take a bit of time. We have got this trade deal with the EU at

:33:44. > :33:47.the moment because we're part of it, we will withdraw from that and we

:33:48. > :33:54.will start to negotiate that trade deal and about 50 or 60 others. I

:33:55. > :33:58.would like to see tariffs, money going to people producing the things

:33:59. > :34:01.rather than EU bureaucrats. I take huge issue with the premise of the

:34:02. > :34:05.contribution that we received online. For me, the European Union

:34:06. > :34:08.is not necessarily us trying to work with other nations, but as Iain

:34:09. > :34:13.Duncan Smith might have suggested broadening our conception of what we

:34:14. > :34:15.see as home. We have four fundamentals freedoms as an EU

:34:16. > :34:19.member state, goods, services, workers and capital and when you do

:34:20. > :34:25.that, you're almost creating a new country across which you don't have

:34:26. > :34:35.any of these tariff barriers and regulations. So what are you worried

:34:36. > :34:46.about most of all? I was a remain voter because the EU is a creates a

:34:47. > :34:51.state as Iain Duncan Smith might have suggested. So that's why this

:34:52. > :34:55.is worrying for me. Can I just in? Yes, of course you can. I don't

:34:56. > :35:00.think anybody has taken into contribution that Europe is a

:35:01. > :35:10.shrinking Continent. It is the only shrinking Continent in the world so

:35:11. > :35:17.in terms of trade partners Europe is smaller than Asia and, America,

:35:18. > :35:22.China. So in terms of getting better trade deals I think we're doing the

:35:23. > :35:27.right thing by leaving. Over here, what do you think? How how feeling

:35:28. > :35:33.today? Excited, but anxious at the same time. My hope is the Government

:35:34. > :35:38.will negotiate a good deal for Britain that will give jobs and

:35:39. > :35:44.services in this country and keep more of the money we were giving to

:35:45. > :35:48.the EU into Britain. Invest in things we need, the NHS is a big

:35:49. > :35:51.thing. We always talk about it and also education, the Police Service,

:35:52. > :35:56.all the functions of Government will be better. So you're excited and

:35:57. > :36:02.anxious. What about the gentleman next to you? I'm excitedment you

:36:03. > :36:08.think it will be good for Britain. All the doom and gloom is around

:36:09. > :36:13.what the bureaucrats in Brussels are saying because they want to keep

:36:14. > :36:16.their project together. Countries have said regardless of what the EU

:36:17. > :36:21.says they are going to push for what's right for their citizens as

:36:22. > :36:25.well. Economic self interest will override the poll Tesco's of it all,

:36:26. > :36:31.and the EU will come up with a deal that works for BT of us and in the

:36:32. > :36:36.enwe can start looking towards these emerging economies across the world.

:36:37. > :36:40.I take issue it is a noble project because there is a large section, I

:36:41. > :36:44.think a lot of people who voted Brexit, I think it is like a cry for

:36:45. > :36:47.help in a sense because there is a lot of people who feel that they

:36:48. > :36:52.have been left behind and they haven't got a voice in modern

:36:53. > :36:55.politics. What about change? How will those people suddenly get a

:36:56. > :37:00.voice? I just hope they will be included. Why the British Prime

:37:01. > :37:03.Minister? By the politicians... At the moment, you know, you look at

:37:04. > :37:07.the likes of Nick Clegg and all that, there is like a denial there

:37:08. > :37:11.that some people have been left behind by Europe and I think that's

:37:12. > :37:15.why Brexit won and I think politicians have got it start

:37:16. > :37:22.speaking up for the people who actually vote for them rather than

:37:23. > :37:24.their own agenda. I think it is misguided to think all of these

:37:25. > :37:27.problems will be solved by us leaving the EU. People that are

:37:28. > :37:34.feeling behind is not a direct result of our membership of the EU.

:37:35. > :37:37.I think giving Parliament more powers, that does not necessarily

:37:38. > :37:41.mean that the people who are disenfranchised are going to get

:37:42. > :37:46.more of a voice. Shall we read some more messages from the people around

:37:47. > :37:50.the country. Kelly says, "Today, I feel ashamed to be British. I will

:37:51. > :37:55.never unite behind Brexit." It will be the theme of Theresa May's

:37:56. > :37:59.address to the Commons. This person says, "I have decided to leave the

:38:00. > :38:04.UK and emigrate as a proud European and British citizen. This is a sad

:38:05. > :38:10.day." John says, "Why should anyone be worried? This country has ruled

:38:11. > :38:13.itself in the past. Get a backbone, everyone." Thank you very much

:38:14. > :38:25.everyone. Thank you for coming on the programme. Thank you.

:38:26. > :38:29.Co-sleeping with your baby, but there are fears that the danger of

:38:30. > :38:36.doing so aren't getting through. Many parents feel the only way

:38:37. > :38:39.to get their baby to sleep is by lying in the same bed as them

:38:40. > :38:43.- but there are fears that warnings about the danger of doing

:38:44. > :38:45.so aren't getting through. In the UK, just under 300 babies die

:38:46. > :38:48.suddenly and unexpectedly in their sleep every year -

:38:49. > :38:50.NHS guidelines say there is an "association" between those

:38:51. > :38:52.sudden deaths and co-sleeping. Now health professionals have told

:38:53. > :38:55.this programme they think parents are lying to them about doing it

:38:56. > :38:57.for fear of being Our reporter Amber Haque has been

:38:58. > :39:01.speaking to people who co-sleep, and meets one mother whose baby

:39:02. > :39:03.daughter died as they slept together - you may find some

:39:04. > :39:06.of the details upsetting. About 90% of people that

:39:07. > :39:08.I mention we co-sleep to look Most parents will do it at some

:39:09. > :39:12.point, not thinking that For some mums, sleeping

:39:13. > :39:16.with their baby can feel like the most-natural

:39:17. > :39:19.thing in the world. But are warnings about the dangers

:39:20. > :39:26.of doing so getting through? When I woke up, I had

:39:27. > :39:28.obviously discovered Do parents feel they can't tell

:39:29. > :39:36.the truth to professionals So in the end, I just ended up lying

:39:37. > :39:44.to the health visitors because they were putting

:39:45. > :39:46.so much stress. She told me that they would not

:39:47. > :39:48.give me any information because they don't want

:39:49. > :39:51.you doing it. So you don't tell anyone.

:39:52. > :40:09.You keep it to yourself. She's been part of you for

:40:10. > :40:17.the past nine months. So to have her close is just

:40:18. > :40:25.the most-natural thing in the world. Dawn Barclay and her partner Andy

:40:26. > :40:29.had their second child Fern in 2014. I just loved her before

:40:30. > :40:33.she was even born. A tiny baby, Fern would only sleep

:40:34. > :40:37.by her mum's side for the first I just gave Fern me,

:40:38. > :40:47.and what she wanted was to lie cuddled in with me, and it's

:40:48. > :40:50.just what I did for her. I tried every night to try to put

:40:51. > :40:53.her to sleep in her Moses basket. So to let her have sleep and be

:40:54. > :41:01.settled and feel safe and secure, In the bed, yes, I did it

:41:02. > :41:10.the safest way possible. Can you take me back

:41:11. > :41:14.to the night when it happened? Fern had slept quite well

:41:15. > :41:20.that night in her Moses We both had fallen back asleep,

:41:21. > :41:42.but we were lying on the couch. When I woke up, I had obviously

:41:43. > :41:46.discovered that she was I remember lifting her up and just

:41:47. > :41:58.running through to Andy Andy was amazing.

:41:59. > :42:10.He started doing CPR. I thought he had managed

:42:11. > :42:20.to bring her back. He managed to get the colour

:42:21. > :42:28.to come back in her cheeks. So her daddy gave

:42:29. > :42:36.her her last breath. And I just remember falling

:42:37. > :42:45.to the ground and just screaming. I didn't understand

:42:46. > :42:47.what else was going on, apart from I thought

:42:48. > :42:51.I had killed my baby. Fern was eight weeks

:42:52. > :42:53.old when she died. The cause of death

:42:54. > :42:56.was recorded as sudden unexpected death in infancy

:42:57. > :43:02.associated with co-sleeping. Like an underlying

:43:03. > :43:13.condition with her brain. For them to put down

:43:14. > :43:15.on her death certificate that it was to do with

:43:16. > :43:17.co-sleeping is really unfair. It's having it down

:43:18. > :43:27.in black and white about the co-sleeping,

:43:28. > :43:29.and then all of the guilt came back. There have been all these

:43:30. > :43:32.studies done about the I was quite naive.

:43:33. > :43:52.You think it will not happen to you. Thinking about it now,

:43:53. > :43:54.my entire chest aches The NHS estimates that just

:43:55. > :44:03.under 300 babies die unexpectedly in their sleep every

:44:04. > :44:06.year as a result of Sudden Infant Half of those are thought to be

:44:07. > :44:14.related to co-sleeping. It's difficult to say

:44:15. > :44:20.what exactly causes it, but NICE guidelines say there

:44:21. > :44:23.is an association between sleeping together and sudden death

:44:24. > :44:25.in babies under one. Health visitors are told to lay out

:44:26. > :44:30.the risks of co-sleeping to parents and stress that it is

:44:31. > :44:32.particularly dangerous in some So what are some of

:44:33. > :44:39.the dos and don'ts? The NHS advice says to place

:44:40. > :44:41.your baby on their back A baby sleeping on their front

:44:42. > :44:46.is up to six times more The safest place for your baby

:44:47. > :44:53.is in a crib or Moses basket in the same room

:44:54. > :45:03.as you for the first six months. Don't sleep with your

:45:04. > :45:06.baby on a sofa or in an armchair, it can increase the chance

:45:07. > :45:09.of Sids by up to 50 times. You should not sleep

:45:10. > :45:11.in the same bed as your baby if you smoke

:45:12. > :45:13.or if you have drunk Do not sleep in the

:45:14. > :45:18.same bed if you are really tired or if your baby

:45:19. > :45:20.was born prematurely. And finally, remove all

:45:21. > :45:24.pillows and thick duvets. In the UK, it's

:45:25. > :45:33.estimated that half of all mothers have slept with their

:45:34. > :45:36.babies by the time they are About 90% of people I mention

:45:37. > :45:51.co-sleeping to look horrified. It is a strange thing, it is

:45:52. > :45:54.completely natural for us to want our babies next to us and for them

:45:55. > :46:04.to want to be near their mothers. How much does it worry you that

:46:05. > :46:07.something could happen? Any first-time parent is worried

:46:08. > :46:09.something will happen to the baby, If anything would happen,

:46:10. > :46:14.you could not live with yourself, It goes back to making

:46:15. > :46:20.sure you do it safely. Everybody says to persist

:46:21. > :46:30.putting her down, leave her crying. But it gets to the point where

:46:31. > :46:34.I say, I'll leave her half an hour, and listen to her crying,

:46:35. > :46:36.and after 15 minutes it is horrible, she starts choking herself

:46:37. > :46:39.and coughing, she is clearly not happy, so I would rather my baby be

:46:40. > :46:43.happy in my arms whilst I am awake and happy with me in bed whilst

:46:44. > :46:45.we are sleeping than Health visitors need to be impartial

:46:46. > :46:50.from their own opinions. I spoke to my friend

:46:51. > :46:57.about co-sleeping, and I had no information from my health visitor

:46:58. > :46:59.or midwife, she said they would not give information

:47:00. > :47:01.because they do not want If parents are going to co-sleep,

:47:02. > :47:07.regardless of the warnings, That parents are not telling

:47:08. > :47:25.the truth to the health visitor. Elaine McInnis advised health

:47:26. > :47:27.watchdog NICE about their guidelines Three years on, she says

:47:28. > :47:39.there's a concern parents are not being truthful,

:47:40. > :47:42.and the guidelines on how to do it Can you put a number on how many

:47:43. > :47:46.parents you think are lying to their health visitor

:47:47. > :47:51.about co-sleeping? It is

:47:52. > :48:04.a difficult question to measure. But we put these questions out

:48:05. > :48:07.to the health visiting community, and we have a 6000 reach

:48:08. > :48:09.on that very question. Overwhelmingly, the responses we had

:48:10. > :48:11.from health visitors across the country was,

:48:12. > :48:14.yes, they were afraid that parents They would go as far as to say

:48:15. > :48:18.that they are scared that they would be told

:48:19. > :48:20.they are a bad mother and have their children

:48:21. > :48:22.taken away from them, Do you think that health visitors

:48:23. > :48:28.themselves can do more? Health visitors are doing the best

:48:29. > :48:32.that they can possibly do. But the issue is the numbers

:48:33. > :48:34.of health visitors that we have on the front line is reducing

:48:35. > :48:45.on a daily basis. No parent would want

:48:46. > :48:55.to lose a child. There are 200 plus babies a year

:48:56. > :48:58.that die unintentionally of SIDS, we have no idea why,

:48:59. > :49:00.and that should be no babies, no parents should go

:49:01. > :49:07.through the trauma. Is it the fear of that potential

:49:08. > :49:10.trauma that makes parents feel Sophie co-slept with both her

:49:11. > :49:25.daughters as babies. I really was upset by my

:49:26. > :49:28.decisions to co-sleep. But I was breast-feeding

:49:29. > :49:31.at the time, and I could not see It did not make sense,

:49:32. > :49:40.so in the end I ended up lying to the health visitors,

:49:41. > :49:46.because they were putting so much stress, and they can

:49:47. > :49:48.really undermine you, because you are in a very

:49:49. > :49:50.vulnerable situation. But nowadays they are just so scared

:49:51. > :49:53.about giving out the wrong advice. It is just creating this awful

:49:54. > :50:03.atmosphere between the health care professionals and the families,

:50:04. > :50:15.and it is not doing anyone any good. Five years on, Sophie

:50:16. > :50:17.still co-sleeps and breast-feeds her She and partner Chris sleep

:50:18. > :50:21.with the girls in two double We would never have imagined five

:50:22. > :50:26.years on we would be shoving two double beds together and sleeping

:50:27. > :50:30.all together as a family. We do not normally tell

:50:31. > :50:46.people that we co-sleep, because we have had so much judgment

:50:47. > :50:49.over the years, the judgment just gets greater,

:50:50. > :50:54.the older a child gets. We enjoy it the way it is,

:50:55. > :50:58.we feel it brings us I think you have to be more

:50:59. > :51:08.creative when it comes You would not want to be all

:51:09. > :51:20.intimate with the kids right there. It does, but you do not

:51:21. > :51:25.have the time, the two kids. We are married, so that goes out

:51:26. > :51:36.the window anyway, doesn't it! The cards that were given

:51:37. > :51:38.when she was born, and outfit she was meant to wear at Christmas,

:51:39. > :51:46.her first hat and toy. It has been over two years

:51:47. > :51:49.since Dawn lost her baby girl, Fern. To have that taken away,

:51:50. > :52:13.at such a young age, he did not understand

:52:14. > :52:17.where his baby had went. 13 months later, Dawn had

:52:18. > :52:19.another baby, called Faye. Faye knows that if she waves

:52:20. > :52:25.of the windows, she is saying hi There are loads of bits and pieces

:52:26. > :52:29.of her all over the house. We have had a patchwork quilt made

:52:30. > :52:35.with her old clothes. A hat I have got, a teddy made

:52:36. > :52:40.with one of her old outfits. Anyone can get a leaflet

:52:41. > :52:43.or guidelines about how your baby should sleep, but without putting

:52:44. > :52:46.a face to it, to make people realise that it does happen,

:52:47. > :52:50.it is still tearing She has made an impact

:52:51. > :52:59.on so many lives. But I wish people would

:53:00. > :53:25.learn from my mistakes We have heard lots of comments from

:53:26. > :53:33.you on this, as you would expect. Thank you. Cam is baffled about why

:53:34. > :53:38.it is so controversial. Their baby sleeps in the super king-size,

:53:39. > :53:43.sleeps in the middle, no pillows or sheets on him, we have a bedroom

:53:44. > :53:51.thermometer and a ceiling fan, and bed cards and a video monitor -- bed

:53:52. > :53:54.guards. If either me or my house and have had a drink with friends, that

:53:55. > :54:00.person will sleep on the sofa. We all sleep better. On Facebook, Nikki

:54:01. > :54:08.says I am a nurse on a neonatal intensive care unit and I have said

:54:09. > :54:12.perfect babies having intensive care treatment because of co-sleeping. It

:54:13. > :54:19.is not judgment, it is concern the baby's life. This one says babies

:54:20. > :54:23.need to be with their mums, we are sanitising motherhood. Bev says my

:54:24. > :54:27.heart goes out to the lady on your film. It is common sense if you just

:54:28. > :54:30.think a little, it is dangerous to fall asleep with your baby next to

:54:31. > :54:35.you or on top of your tummy. The best thing you can do is to start

:54:36. > :54:41.your baby out in their own crib was Moses Barker from the day they come

:54:42. > :54:49.home. -- basket. There is an abundance of information available

:54:50. > :54:53.to reduce the risk of SIDS, so please use common sense.

:54:54. > :54:57.And if you've been affected by any of the issues in that report,

:54:58. > :54:59.there are details of organisations who can help.

:55:00. > :55:04.Just go to our website: bbc.co.uk/actionline.

:55:05. > :55:12.There are 3.3 million EU citizens living in the UK.

:55:13. > :55:14.Over the next two years, as negotiations on Brexit take place,

:55:15. > :55:17.decisions will be made about whether they will be

:55:18. > :55:19.able to stay in the UK, whether they will have to apply

:55:20. > :55:22.for visas, like non-EU residents, or be kicked out altogether?

:55:23. > :55:24.Many are worried about what the future holds for them,

:55:25. > :55:26.especially when it comes to immigration, job security,

:55:27. > :55:28.social services and how welcome they'll be in a place

:55:29. > :55:33.Though the chancellor Philip Hammond has made it clear today

:55:34. > :55:36.that there will be no cut-off from today to the rights of EU

:55:37. > :55:45.Let me introduce you to various people.

:55:46. > :55:50.Fatime Al-Badri is a Dutch Student who has lived in the UK

:55:51. > :55:55.Olivia Vicol is Romanian and a PhD candidate at Oxford.

:55:56. > :55:59.Conor Sheridan is an Irish actor who has lived in the UK for 16 years

:56:00. > :56:03.And Tanja Bueltmann, a German Professor, who says she has

:56:04. > :56:08.been abused in the street since the referendum.

:56:09. > :56:12.All are EU residents and would have voted to remain had they had a vote

:56:13. > :56:15.in the referendum and all are worried about how they will get

:56:16. > :56:23.Because that is your aim Comey want to continue to stay here? I did have

:56:24. > :56:32.a vote, by the way. I voted to remain. Very important thing to do

:56:33. > :56:35.so. And you want to remain? Absolutely, there are so many issues

:56:36. > :56:41.we don't have time to talk about. Try us. It is not just about

:56:42. > :56:44.economics, it is about social situation, world wars, people forget

:56:45. > :56:49.that this has happened as a result of world wars in the 40s and was

:56:50. > :56:53.agreed in 1957. There is a whole lot of things and it is about being

:56:54. > :57:02.together, and the importance of that. Brexit has unleashed an awful

:57:03. > :57:06.lot of differences in people. Racism and fascism. I think it is very

:57:07. > :57:10.unhealthy. I think it is very sad, and I don't think our government are

:57:11. > :57:15.telling us the entire truth, and I don't think they are dealing with it

:57:16. > :57:19.particularly well. You are all effectively going to be bargaining

:57:20. > :57:24.chips in these negotiations. Theresa May is giving her cards close to her

:57:25. > :57:29.chest. You know, first of all, how do you feel about being part of the

:57:30. > :57:37.negotiations, the bargaining chips, if you like? It is very hard to feel

:57:38. > :57:39.passive, especially as an academic, somebody who researches migration,

:57:40. > :57:43.all of this conversation happens above our heads effectively and we

:57:44. > :57:47.can only sit back and listen to it and be alert and try to become

:57:48. > :57:50.secure on our own as much as possible, secure our savings,

:57:51. > :57:54.perhaps establish the more connections back home or elsewhere.

:57:55. > :58:01.But yes, it is very frustrating just to witness it from a passive

:58:02. > :58:06.position. I think Theresa May needs to provide some sort of reassurance

:58:07. > :58:09.will stop people are uncertain in general, let alone the EU citizens

:58:10. > :58:15.living here. We already know that the MPs refused to amend the motion

:58:16. > :58:24.to protect EU citizens and allow them the definite right to stay. I

:58:25. > :58:27.think that the Mayor of London has already gone to France and has

:58:28. > :58:32.requested that too is that reassurance to the citizens. And I

:58:33. > :58:37.think that in order to protect what we currently have here in the UK, I

:58:38. > :58:45.think that reassurance needs to be provided. Tanja Bueltmann, you are

:58:46. > :58:51.bargaining chips because Theresa May knows we have about a million EU

:58:52. > :58:56.citizens living in other European countries, so until their status is

:58:57. > :59:00.sorted, those cannot be sorted. That is the logic. I think it is

:59:01. > :59:05.extremely illogical. We came here in good faith, that is my view. I came

:59:06. > :59:09.to the UK to contribute to society here, that was the choice, I am sure

:59:10. > :59:14.everyone else would agree with that. So we contribute to live here every

:59:15. > :59:17.day. If the government can't do the decent thing and not actually make

:59:18. > :59:25.as part of the negotiations, I think that sends a really clear message to

:59:26. > :59:33.us. You have experienced racism in the street, I think, as a German in

:59:34. > :59:36.the UK. Tell us about that. I was speaking in German on the mobile

:59:37. > :59:41.phone to my mother, and I got shouted at two F off back to my

:59:42. > :59:47.country. I think this is a new thing. It did not happen before.

:59:48. > :59:51.Also connected to that, certainly we are all often cast as foreigners.

:59:52. > :59:57.They have never been called a foreigner before 2016. All of this

:59:58. > :59:59.was stirred up in the referendum, and now this limbo status makes it

:00:00. > :00:07.worse because it basically tells racists that our status is not clear

:00:08. > :00:19.so they are pushing that to push their xenophobic agenda. What is it

:00:20. > :00:25.like living in a limbo state? I personally feel like I have to be

:00:26. > :00:28.very alert. To what? Nobody knows what is going to happen, it looks

:00:29. > :00:32.like this government will prioritise migration over everything else,

:00:33. > :00:37.which means that the pound will probably continue to fall, as it has

:00:38. > :00:41.so far. My job as an academic, a wannabe academic at least, is not

:00:42. > :00:45.secure because much funding comes from the European Union, so I feel

:00:46. > :00:46.like I have to constantly engineer ways of becoming secure, thinking

:00:47. > :01:00.where I will work. What is it you? In what sense? You are still no

:01:01. > :01:04.clearer? Nobody is clear. There was a lot of lies in the referendum

:01:05. > :01:09.campaign. A lot of spin. I mean watching Question Time the other

:01:10. > :01:14.night, watching David Davis, David Davis says one thing, one minute and

:01:15. > :01:19.another, another. He acknowledged that immigration may go up, as well

:01:20. > :01:25.as go down? He doesn't know. He says one thing one minute and Boris, I

:01:26. > :01:31.mean, he was then inof the Leave. I think he is a disaster. He is a bit

:01:32. > :01:35.of an embarrassment. He doesn't answer questions and just laughs

:01:36. > :01:39.things off as if it doesn't matter. Your country, your Union is divided

:01:40. > :01:43.politically and socially. Scotland has a chance to leave. Northern

:01:44. > :01:47.Ireland, the DUP are only one seat ahead of Sinn Fein now in the

:01:48. > :01:52.Northern Ireland elections as we found out two weeks ago. I think we

:01:53. > :01:57.can see a united Ireland sooner than we may. The United Kingdom, and one

:01:58. > :02:02.thing to say nobody talked if France wants to leave the EU, France leaves

:02:03. > :02:05.the EU. If the UK wants to leave the EU, you're four countries, two of

:02:06. > :02:09.which wants to stay, two of which want to leave. Nobody has spoken

:02:10. > :02:14.about that and nobody had a contingency plan. We live in a

:02:15. > :02:19.country, in England, that's a culture of contingency. People did

:02:20. > :02:26.talk about that. We talked about it on this programme. What's the plan?

:02:27. > :02:32.I don't know what the plan is. I'm just a humble journalist.

:02:33. > :02:35.Regarding that feeling of disunity from Conor and others, Theresa May

:02:36. > :02:41.will talk about that in the Commons later when she address her fellow

:02:42. > :02:44.MPs after Prime Minister's Questions at 12.30pm which is the moment of

:02:45. > :02:48.Brexit because that's when the letter is handed over to Donald

:02:49. > :02:49.Tusk. News and sport are on the way.

:02:50. > :03:06.Before that, the weather. Good morning. It is grey skies for

:03:07. > :03:13.most today. North-east Scotland should stay dry. Sunshine here. We

:03:14. > :03:17.could hit around 17 or 18 Celsius. Temperatures will hold up through

:03:18. > :03:21.tonight. We've got south to south-westerly winds. Still bringing

:03:22. > :03:26.outbreaks of rind across Scotland and western England and Wales and

:03:27. > :03:28.later Northern Ireland. Coldest of all, Shetland at four Celsius, but

:03:29. > :03:34.temperatures will rise into tomorrow. After starting 10, 11, 12

:03:35. > :03:38.Celsius Celsius, southerly winds tomorrow and we have got sunshine

:03:39. > :03:43.across central and eastern areas. It means that things will warm up

:03:44. > :03:48.quickly. An isolated chance of a shower across the South East corner.

:03:49. > :03:52.Another cloudy day. Further rain especially West Wales and Lancashire

:03:53. > :03:54.and Cumbria. In the sunshine in the South East we could hit 22 Celsius.

:03:55. > :04:00.Bye for now. Our top story today -

:04:01. > :04:07.the triggering of Article 50. The Prime Minister will today

:04:08. > :04:16.formally start the process to take What do voters think? I think it is

:04:17. > :04:19.this protectionist mental crit. It makes us look more insular. I would

:04:20. > :04:27.like to see Britain being more international. We're not pulling up

:04:28. > :04:29.any draw bridges. This morning, the Chancellor tells colleagues we

:04:30. > :04:32.cannot have our cake and eat it. In other words there have to be

:04:33. > :04:35.compromise, but Britain will get a Brexit deal.

:04:36. > :04:37.Also on the programme, ex-Royal Marine Alexander Blackman

:04:38. > :04:40.could be home in a matter of weeks, after having his sentence

:04:41. > :04:42.for shooting dead a wounded taliban fighter reduced.

:04:43. > :04:49.His wife, Claire Blackman, tells us about his reaction to the outcome.

:04:50. > :04:55.I spoke to him shortly afterwards and I think it took a little longer

:04:56. > :05:01.for the realisation to hit. I think he'd worked very hard to prepare

:05:02. > :05:05.himself for not such good news. So, once it had finally dawned on us

:05:06. > :05:09.that we were going to be together soon, we were very happy.

:05:10. > :05:14.And the dangers of co-sleeping with your new baby.

:05:15. > :05:22.You think it's not going to happen to you. Still thinking about it my

:05:23. > :05:26.entire chest aches with just the pain of it.

:05:27. > :05:28.Health professionals tell us they fear parents are lying

:05:29. > :05:40.about sleeping with their children for fear of being judged.

:05:41. > :05:44.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:05:45. > :05:49.Theresa May has signed the letter that will formally begin the UK's

:05:50. > :05:53.The letter will be delivered by hand to the President

:05:54. > :05:55.of the European Council, Donald Tusk, at 12.30

:05:56. > :06:06.At the same time, the Prime Minister will make a statement to the Commons

:06:07. > :06:09.in which she'll urge the country to come together as it embarks

:06:10. > :06:19.Let's join Ben Brown. A carefully choreographed day? Very much so,

:06:20. > :06:26.Joanna. We know the choreography very much. Tim Bar owe, who is

:06:27. > :06:32.Britain's permanent representative at the European Union, he is in his

:06:33. > :06:36.offices over there in the European Council buildings in Brussels. He

:06:37. > :06:38.has got that letter with him that Theresa May signed last night in

:06:39. > :06:42.Downing Street. We gather it is several pages long and sets out

:06:43. > :06:47.Theresa May's vision of how the Brexit negotiations will go. The

:06:48. > :06:54.broad parameter she set out in January in her Lancaster House

:06:55. > :07:00.speechment he at 1.20pm, 12.20pm your time, will walk over to the

:07:01. > :07:04.president of the European Council, Donald Tusk and hands him that

:07:05. > :07:09.letter and it is when Donald Tusk acknowledges that he received that

:07:10. > :07:13.letter that Article 50 is triggered. We gather he will acknowledge

:07:14. > :07:17.receipt of that letter with a tweet and a video statement later on, but

:07:18. > :07:22.his formal response and much more detailed response won't come for

:07:23. > :07:27.another 48 hours, until Friday, and that's when he sets out his

:07:28. > :07:30.parameters and he will send that out to the other 27 leaders, but the

:07:31. > :07:35.negotiations themselves, they may not really get going until May or

:07:36. > :07:38.June and may not get going in earnest until after the French and

:07:39. > :07:43.German elections in May and September. So it may all not really

:07:44. > :07:50.start properly the negotiating until the autumn. So a will the of people

:07:51. > :07:53.here are saying the time frame is very tight indeed because the

:07:54. > :07:56.negotiations have to be completed by October of 2018 in order for the

:07:57. > :07:57.agreement to be ratified by the European Parliament.

:07:58. > :08:02.? Thank you very much, Ben. We'll have live coverage

:08:03. > :08:04.of the Theresa May's statement on triggering Article

:08:05. > :08:06.50 to the Commons. That's on the BBC News

:08:07. > :08:08.Channel at 12.30pm. An American man who was paralysed

:08:09. > :08:10.from the shoulders down, has been able to feed himself

:08:11. > :08:13.and hold onto a cup of coffee, after surgeons put implants

:08:14. > :08:16.into his brain and arm. Bill Kochevar had paralysis

:08:17. > :08:18.in all four of his limbs, after his bicycle ran into the back

:08:19. > :08:22.of a lorry. Doctors say it's the first time

:08:23. > :08:24.implants controlled by the brain have been used to help someone reach

:08:25. > :08:40.and grab objects once again. The family of Mark duggan whose

:08:41. > :08:46.shooting by police marksmen sparked riots have lost a court case that he

:08:47. > :08:52.was lawfully killed. There was another successful trial

:08:53. > :09:03.of video technology which was used to correct two wrong decisions

:09:04. > :09:06.in Spain's 2-0 win over France in their friendly

:09:07. > :09:08.in Paris last night. Antoine Griezmann thought he'd put

:09:09. > :09:10.France ahead but the video referee Gerard Deulofeu scored Spain's

:09:11. > :09:16.second and was flagged offside, but again the video was checked

:09:17. > :09:29.and the goal was given. The FA have said they want

:09:30. > :09:31.to trial the technology from the third round onwards in next

:09:32. > :09:34.year's FA Cup. Brazil have become the first

:09:35. > :09:36.country to qualify for They went through with four games

:09:37. > :09:42.to spare after Uruguay's Sale Sharks winger Denny Solomona

:09:43. > :09:45.said he had the support of his family and coach

:09:46. > :09:49.after declaring himself available Solomona represented Samoa

:09:50. > :09:56.in Rugby League and was playing for Castleford in Super League

:09:57. > :09:59.when he controversially switched He's eligible for England,

:10:00. > :10:01.after completing his Roger Federer's impressive start

:10:02. > :10:06.to 2017 shows no signs of faltering. He's lost only one match this

:10:07. > :10:09.year after returning from five months out

:10:10. > :10:12.and he's through to the quarter-finals of the Miami Open

:10:13. > :10:14.after beating Spain's Roberto His fellow Swiss, top seed

:10:15. > :10:24.Stan Wawrinka is out, though. Maria Sharapova will return

:10:25. > :10:27.to the women's Tour at next month's Stuttgart Open having served a 15

:10:28. > :10:30.month doping ban. Her last professional tournament

:10:31. > :10:38.was the 2016 Australian Open where she failed a drugs test

:10:39. > :10:47.and she's happy to have I am at an age and a stage where you

:10:48. > :10:51.are closer to thend than you are to the beginning, you always want to

:10:52. > :10:56.end your career or a chapter in your life on your terms and in your

:10:57. > :11:00.voice. That's why I fought so hard for the truth to be out. You don't

:11:01. > :11:06.realise how much you love something and how much something means to you

:11:07. > :11:09.until you lose it for sometime. She is set to return next month.

:11:10. > :11:14.That's all the sport. Britain takes a step

:11:15. > :11:16.into the unknown today when it formally serves notice on leaving

:11:17. > :11:22.the European Union. For some it's a day of jubilation,

:11:23. > :11:25.for others a day of dread, but there's pretty much

:11:26. > :11:26.no going back. Whatever happens - very little

:11:27. > :11:29.will change immediately - as we're faced with two years

:11:30. > :11:31.of negotiations and wrangles. Our reporter Jim Reed has been

:11:32. > :11:43.talking to voters in Luton. If we want Brexit to bring better

:11:44. > :11:47.opportunities for young people, young people need to make

:11:48. > :11:50.their voices heard, and we can appeal to Parliament

:11:51. > :11:52.about what that should be. I am a Masters student at Warwick

:11:53. > :11:55.University, I voted to leave. We did not get chance to

:11:56. > :11:58.have a democratic vote for 40 years. The EU was becoming a much bigger

:11:59. > :12:03.organisation than we signed up to. I am 50, I am a freelance PR

:12:04. > :12:13.and event consultant I thought some of the legislation

:12:14. > :12:17.and regulations were prohibitive to business and we could do it

:12:18. > :12:23.better, so I voted to leave. What questions would have made

:12:24. > :12:26.the difference for people, I have lived in the UK for 13 years,

:12:27. > :12:33.I am a proud British citizen. The people have spoken,

:12:34. > :12:36.this was not an opinion poll, it is a command to Parliament,

:12:37. > :12:40.so I am on board. What does it mean, instead of just

:12:41. > :12:44.saying these are possibilities, It is important to move on now,

:12:45. > :12:56.there is no use throwing a tantrum and getting upset

:12:57. > :13:02.about what people voted for. Theresa May has two

:13:03. > :13:06.things going for her. She came to office after the vote

:13:07. > :13:09.was taken, so she is not sullied by the mudslinging that went on,

:13:10. > :13:12.even though she did not say a lot. In her public statements so far,

:13:13. > :13:15.she seems to be quite We're not going to go off the rails

:13:16. > :13:33.one way or the other. I think it is either the case

:13:34. > :13:38.that only now has a real plan begun to develop,

:13:39. > :13:41.or there is not one, as I believe what the Government is trying to do

:13:42. > :13:44.is hide its negotiation as much I have been very concerned,

:13:45. > :13:53.I cannot lie, with Theresa May. She did come at a very difficult

:13:54. > :13:56.time, and I do not envy her, but I feel as though she did not

:13:57. > :14:01.stand as the leader I would have hoped to have had

:14:02. > :14:10.in such an uncertain time. With Brexit we have to make sure

:14:11. > :14:13.we do not throw the baby out with the bath water,

:14:14. > :14:16.and to keep the parts of the EU The Government needs to make sure

:14:17. > :14:21.that there are easy routes open for international students to come

:14:22. > :14:24.here and for British people to go Mine is from a business point

:14:25. > :14:32.of view, it is free trade. We have international clients.

:14:33. > :14:36.I work overseas a lot. So I need to be able to travel

:14:37. > :14:40.quickly and easily and nothing too People need to feel

:14:41. > :14:45.they have control of their We need to feel we are making laws

:14:46. > :14:50.in this country that, if we don't like the law,

:14:51. > :14:54.we can evict the lawmaker. And the management of migration,

:14:55. > :14:56.find the best resource At the moment it is

:14:57. > :15:08.being overplayed. You have people saying

:15:09. > :15:11.that they want to be independent from the UK,

:15:12. > :15:13.but they wanted be part of the EU. If you want to be independent,

:15:14. > :15:22.why rush to join the EU? I hope that it does not break up

:15:23. > :15:26.the UK, we need to stick together I voted to leave,

:15:27. > :15:29.but I am pro-European, I do not see why it should result

:15:30. > :15:34.in any more break-up. What you were saying,

:15:35. > :15:42."I am pro-Europe but I do not want to be in Europe,"

:15:43. > :15:51.that frustrates me. You can't say we want as part of

:15:52. > :15:54.Europe. If you are going to say Brexit means

:15:55. > :15:57.Brexit, sever the arm off. Now we have got

:15:58. > :15:59.to deal with leaving. But I voted to leave,

:16:00. > :16:02.I did not vote to cut our arm off, I did not vote to have no

:16:03. > :16:05.tie at all. I think a second

:16:06. > :16:14.referendum is unnecessary. The people gave Parliament

:16:15. > :16:17.an instruction. It is not up to former

:16:18. > :16:24.Prime Ministers to tell us that we were too intellectually

:16:25. > :16:28.lightweight to understand what we were doing and that we should

:16:29. > :16:34.now have to rethink it. Graeme because we have been led into

:16:35. > :16:38.a fool's paradise. The argument that David Cameron

:16:39. > :16:42.should not have even offered a referendum to the British people,

:16:43. > :16:45.since it has not been on the ballot The British people deserve

:16:46. > :16:50.the chance to rethink their membership of the EU,

:16:51. > :16:53.they have not had it before, If we are to say, could we have

:16:54. > :17:05.another referendum, let people know That is the bit that

:17:06. > :17:10.frustrates me, the uncertainty. Be clear on what it is, be truthful,

:17:11. > :17:17.let people vote for a reality. The main criticism is we do not

:17:18. > :17:20.have enough information, so if there were to be a second

:17:21. > :17:23.referendum, we would need a lot more information,

:17:24. > :17:25.things would have to be different, So at 12.30 today the divorce

:17:26. > :17:37.papers will be served by hand to the President

:17:38. > :17:39.of the European Council, Actually, at 12:20pm,

:17:40. > :17:47.we are now told. As it's delivered,

:17:48. > :17:49.the Prime Minister will make a statement to the Commons

:17:50. > :17:52.in which she'll urge the country to "come together" as it embarks

:17:53. > :17:54.on a "momentous journey". Here we have four MPs to discuss

:17:55. > :17:57.what they think will happen once They are the Labour MP Gisela Stuart

:17:58. > :18:01.who campaigned to leave the EU, Hannah Bardell from the SNP

:18:02. > :18:04.who campaigned to stay in the EU, Anne Marie Morris who wanted Britain

:18:05. > :18:07.to leave the European Union and is a Conservative MP,

:18:08. > :18:10.Sarah Olney who won a byelection for the Liberal Democrats,

:18:11. > :18:12.after campaigning on the issue of Brexit and ousting

:18:13. > :18:22.the sitting MP, Zac Goldsmith, Are you desperate to get your hands

:18:23. > :18:29.on this letter that Mrs May has written? I don't think it is going

:18:30. > :18:33.to give us any clues. The more important thing to remember is that

:18:34. > :18:36.there are 19,000 articles according to the Commons library, pieces of

:18:37. > :18:43.legislation, that will be coming back from Europe. The greatest cut

:18:44. > :18:48.and paste job we have ever seen. EU legislation that we will import into

:18:49. > :18:54.British law? We are not going to do that until we get the great reform

:18:55. > :18:58.bill. It is about the trigger, but then will be the great reform bill

:18:59. > :19:03.or the great power grab. A number of academics have said they are very

:19:04. > :19:06.concerned of the fact that the government will change legislation,

:19:07. > :19:11.bring back power from places like Scotland, a bone of contention, and

:19:12. > :19:14.there is a question about whether we will get to properly scrutinise that

:19:15. > :19:22.legislation and have proper debate and vote on it. There were 147

:19:23. > :19:27.amendments to the Scotland act. Scotland Bill. We had the ability to

:19:28. > :19:30.push seven votes and it took the electric over two and a half hours.

:19:31. > :19:36.So you are worried about time and lack of scrutiny. What are you

:19:37. > :19:41.looking forward to today? I am less worried about what I think is the

:19:42. > :19:45.challenge, but we don't have to solve it overnight. For me it is a

:19:46. > :19:50.great opportunity for trade, for large business. We will have

:19:51. > :19:54.international trade agreements with countries we have never been able to

:19:55. > :19:57.have bilateral agreements with before. For our smaller businesses,

:19:58. > :20:01.they get a win as well because they will need to start recreating supply

:20:02. > :20:06.chains within the United Kingdom for some of our larger companies who

:20:07. > :20:13.want now to build in Britain rather than import parts for the main

:20:14. > :20:17.product into the UK. We also have an opportunity for import substitution

:20:18. > :20:20.and the food industry has been looking at it very carefully. We

:20:21. > :20:25.have not really been able to pull together all of our food businesses

:20:26. > :20:29.and let at how we can industrialise, and I don't mean make it into a

:20:30. > :20:32.factory but I may make it efficient, bring in some of the high-tech,

:20:33. > :20:39.which we can do but together we can applaud it. -- afford it. There is a

:20:40. > :20:47.huge opportunity. I can see your buoyancy and your joy. I was going

:20:48. > :20:51.to say that today is the start of a process but the problem is we don't

:20:52. > :20:53.know what the end is. Anne-Marie is talking about all this marvellous

:20:54. > :20:59.things that will happen but we just don't know. Today we start the

:21:00. > :21:03.process of a negotiation. At some point there will be some agreement

:21:04. > :21:06.but we still don't know who will make the decision about whether we

:21:07. > :21:09.accept those terms or not. We have always said we think it should be

:21:10. > :21:13.the people, they should get the final vote on the terms but Theresa

:21:14. > :21:17.May hasn't used to make any commitment on this and I think that

:21:18. > :21:20.is rarely important because yes, the country voted to leave the European

:21:21. > :21:22.Union last June, but we still don't know what they were voting for. We

:21:23. > :21:28.still don't know what our future looks like. Let's ask the zealous

:21:29. > :21:34.Stuart, a Labour MP, do you know what people voted for -- Gisela

:21:35. > :21:38.Stuart. We were quite clear that it was about taking control over your

:21:39. > :21:44.borders, taxes, laws and trade negotiations. What will happen after

:21:45. > :21:51.today is both the United Kingdom and the European Union will have to take

:21:52. > :21:54.a new fresh look at itself. It is a huge opportunity for National

:21:55. > :21:58.renewal but also for the European Union to address some of their

:21:59. > :22:04.problems. If we are grown up about these negotiations, then we will

:22:05. > :22:07.take things like workers' rights, all of those things currently

:22:08. > :22:12.enshrined in EU legislation, take them in UK legislation. A process of

:22:13. > :22:16.saying we have the final say on this. But the final endgame for me

:22:17. > :22:21.is we have to take those communities who voted in large numbers to leave

:22:22. > :22:27.far more resilient so they can actually withstand the threat of

:22:28. > :22:30.globalisation. On the Food Drink industry, and I have met with the

:22:31. > :22:34.food and Rincon industry and federation. They are very concerned

:22:35. > :22:37.about regulation because of the moment we have unified regulation.

:22:38. > :22:43.Which means we can easily import and bring stuffing. Exactly. Two of the

:22:44. > :22:47.biggest exports from Scotland, salmon and the ski, if there is not

:22:48. > :22:52.unified regulation and systems, we will have stuff stuck at the border.

:22:53. > :22:57.It seems somewhat extraordinary. You talk about trade deals, they can

:22:58. > :23:02.take years. Now they don't take years. They do, that is not doom and

:23:03. > :23:08.gloom, they do. Only because you have been talking about trade deals

:23:09. > :23:11.that take 28 countries to agree. It will be relatively straightforward,

:23:12. > :23:14.I am not saying walk on the part, but you said earlier these are

:23:15. > :23:17.things we could do before that is simply not right. We could not enter

:23:18. > :23:26.into bilateral agreements with other people. Mrs May wants today to

:23:27. > :23:33.effectively draw a line under the divisions caused by the referendum.

:23:34. > :23:37.Can that happen? It very much depends on her approach. I think one

:23:38. > :23:41.of the things that really concerns me is the agenda at the moment has

:23:42. > :23:48.very much been driven by the Brexiteers, the right-wing levers. I

:23:49. > :23:51.think if she is being honest about wanting to be more consensual then

:23:52. > :23:55.she needs to start listening to the voices of those who wanted to

:23:56. > :24:03.remain. Does at how the Chancellor has signalled today there will be no

:24:04. > :24:08.cut-off today, today is not being seen as a cut-off point. Is that a

:24:09. > :24:16.softening of her position? I guess so. What we have always asked for is

:24:17. > :24:19.a unilateral degree -- agree for the rights of EU citizens to stay in

:24:20. > :24:23.this country and we think there would be an excellent way to start

:24:24. > :24:28.off, because it would show Britain is serious about maintaining good

:24:29. > :24:31.relations with the EU. Is a Conservative MP, doesn't make across

:24:32. > :24:39.when you hear your Chancellor say we can't have your cake and eat it?

:24:40. > :24:42.Give me a context. He is making it clear that there will be a lot of

:24:43. > :24:47.compromises over the next couple of years. Sometimes when you listen to

:24:48. > :24:51.Leave campaigners, they make the negotiation sound like a walk in the

:24:52. > :24:54.park. I don't think it will be a walk in the park but I don't think

:24:55. > :24:58.we have the doom and gloom scenario that we will have to give away a lot

:24:59. > :25:06.to get the freedom we have fought for. I think the focus on this 60

:25:07. > :25:10.billion. The so-called exit bill. Exactly, that is completely unreal.

:25:11. > :25:15.The figure is far from clear. But you accept that Britain has to pay

:25:16. > :25:19.its liabilities. I think you will find that in any divorce, and I'm

:25:20. > :25:29.sure many of us have experienced this. Speak for yourself! What we

:25:30. > :25:32.actually do is we look at what the liabilities are and the assets and

:25:33. > :25:35.look at what is fair but what I don't think is fair is that we in

:25:36. > :25:43.the UK should be paying for benefits that we are not going to receive

:25:44. > :25:47.after we have left. What about paying in order to get access for a

:25:48. > :25:54.particular sector in this country, like the City of London? I think

:25:55. > :25:57.paying from ship of some of the science research schemes, they are

:25:58. > :26:01.well worth it, but this regard for the city, we are incredibly strong

:26:02. > :26:05.there and to think that we are in the weaker bargaining position, in

:26:06. > :26:10.terms of forward about the city is not the right position to take.

:26:11. > :26:13.Thank you all very much. PMQs at midday followed by Theresa May, the

:26:14. > :26:19.Prime Minister, standing up to address the Commons with a letter to

:26:20. > :26:24.Donald Tusk and what it says in it, and giving some more clues about her

:26:25. > :26:26.negotiating position when it comes to sorting out that Brexit deal over

:26:27. > :26:29.the next couple of years. Next - the wife of the former

:26:30. > :26:33.Royal Marine who shot dead a wounded Taliban soldier in Afghanistan tells

:26:34. > :26:35.this progrmame of her relief and delight that he'll

:26:36. > :26:37.be released in weeks. Sgt Alexander Blackman -

:26:38. > :26:40.who was inititially known as Marine A -

:26:41. > :26:42.has been in prison for three But after his original conviction

:26:43. > :26:46.for murder was reduced to manslaughter, his

:26:47. > :26:49.sentence was also cut. Sgt Blackman and his men were

:26:50. > :26:52.on a tour in Afghanistan in 2011 After being targeted by the Taliban,

:26:53. > :27:05.he found an injured Footage from a helmet-mounted camera

:27:06. > :27:08.showed him shooting him Obviously, this doesn't

:27:09. > :27:16.go anywhere, fellas. I've just broken

:27:17. > :27:19.the Geneva convention. Sergeant Blackman's wife Claire led

:27:20. > :27:28.the campaign for his murder conviction to be re-examined,

:27:29. > :27:30.and yesterday their lawyer said "she kept the flame alive

:27:31. > :27:34.when the legal system had completely abandoned her husband",

:27:35. > :27:36.and described her as "the lioness In her first TV interview

:27:37. > :27:41.since the case, she told us of her huge relief

:27:42. > :27:57.and delight at his release. Relief initially. I think it took a

:27:58. > :28:02.little while for the news to sink in that absolutely delighted, the

:28:03. > :28:08.result we were hoping for. And your husband was there via video link.

:28:09. > :28:11.What was his reaction? The same actually. I spoke to him shortly

:28:12. > :28:15.afterwards and I think it took a little longer for the realisation to

:28:16. > :28:19.hit. He had worked very hard to prepare himself for not such good

:28:20. > :28:25.news, so want it had finally dawned on us that we were going to be

:28:26. > :28:31.together soon, we were very happy. So he had braced himself for the

:28:32. > :28:34.worst westerner that is generally our way of coping with things,

:28:35. > :28:40.Professor the worst and you never know we might get a better result

:28:41. > :28:48.than that. What have you been told about when he will be free? We are

:28:49. > :28:54.hoping in the next day or so. But you are expecting it at the next

:28:55. > :28:58.couple of weeks or so? The sentence was just over seven years and he's

:28:59. > :29:05.just over three years, five months, so it should be imminent. Is it true

:29:06. > :29:10.on video link you manage to get in that he loved you yesterday? The

:29:11. > :29:15.court staff have been absolutely fantastic. We have been a regular

:29:16. > :29:19.appearance in court and the staff have got to know us and look after

:29:20. > :29:21.us very well. They allow us at the end of the video link to have a

:29:22. > :29:26.quick word with each other on camera. I did warn him that the

:29:27. > :29:35.court had not yet cleared, but yes, he did tell me he loved me. I wonder

:29:36. > :29:41.if you could give our audience and insight into the mental state of

:29:42. > :29:50.your husband? He done so many tours of duty in very dangerous places,

:29:51. > :29:54.what condition was he in? I never get to see the side of him that is

:29:55. > :30:00.under incredible stress at work. He is obviously thousands of miles away

:30:01. > :30:05.in a war zone and I will speak to him once a week by satellite phone.

:30:06. > :30:10.My role is to make sure that he knows that I am safe and well and he

:30:11. > :30:17.is not having to worry about anything, other than the job he is

:30:18. > :30:21.tasked to do. So I think as we have talked throughout this whole

:30:22. > :30:26.process, only have I come to understand just what incredible

:30:27. > :30:32.circumstances our servicemen and women are expected to operate in.

:30:33. > :30:37.Width at a previous hearing, judges described your husband as an

:30:38. > :30:40.exemplary soldier. The judges said although his responsibility was

:30:41. > :30:45.diminished, Alexander Blackman still retained a substantial

:30:46. > :30:53.responsibility for the deliberate killing of the telephone insurgent.

:30:54. > :31:00.Is that fair? He has never suggested anything else, he has always taken

:31:01. > :31:04.responsibility, he has always regretted his actions, we now know

:31:05. > :31:07.they were the actions of a man suffering from combat stress

:31:08. > :31:14.disorder. If you asked him would he turned back the clock to undo that

:31:15. > :31:20.incident, absolutely he would. They went on to say that his actions

:31:21. > :31:25.could be used as a propaganda tool by insurgents. I think there are so

:31:26. > :31:31.many aspects of this case that if not carefully taken in context can

:31:32. > :31:35.be described as propaganda tools. The video clips themselves have not

:31:36. > :31:40.been made available for exactly the same reason. I am not in a position

:31:41. > :31:41.to try and second-guess what terrorist organisations may or may

:31:42. > :31:52.not use. Your husband has been dismissed from

:31:53. > :31:58.the Royal Marines. Would he want to rejoin? That's a really important

:31:59. > :32:03.point. He has been dismissed. The previous sentence that was

:32:04. > :32:07.overturned was dismissed with disgrace and that's something that

:32:08. > :32:13.we found very difficult because of his exemplary career and the love of

:32:14. > :32:19.his time at the Royal Marines so to have that simply a dismissal is a

:32:20. > :32:24.fantastic relief. He has in the been reduced to rank so he retains his

:32:25. > :32:31.rank of sergeant going forward which is important to him and to us.

:32:32. > :32:36.Would he want to serve again? I think that now is the time to look

:32:37. > :32:40.forward, to spend sometime together, to be a married couple and to

:32:41. > :32:46.reassess what it is that he wants to do for the rest of his career.

:32:47. > :32:51.That's interesting. On his behalf, you're not ruling that out, that

:32:52. > :32:55.desire out? We have not really had that conversation. We have been

:32:56. > :32:59.focussed on getting yesterday's result and I can't answer on his

:33:00. > :33:07.behalf. What has been the lowest point for you in the last few years

:33:08. > :33:11.would you say? I think it has to be that day when the conviction was

:33:12. > :33:20.announced, the sentence was given for the original murder conviction,

:33:21. > :33:24.having snapped through a court martial process that we know the

:33:25. > :33:28.Criminal Cases Review Commission has described as flawed and has

:33:29. > :33:33.criticised the previous defence team and the judge advocate general. We

:33:34. > :33:39.knew that that decision was unfair and unjust, but it was the lowest

:33:40. > :33:43.point and yesterday saw that completely overturned. Did you ever

:33:44. > :33:49.believe, I mean, did you ever really think in your heart of hearts that

:33:50. > :33:54.yesterday would come? We obviously hoped and we continued to work and

:33:55. > :33:57.fight for that day and we had incredible support as you have seen

:33:58. > :34:02.from thousands of people who also felt that that day should come, but

:34:03. > :34:07.hes not to say there weren't days when we really wondered if it would

:34:08. > :34:10.ever happen. Do you feel you and your husband have been let down by

:34:11. > :34:15.the Army? In some ways, yes, absolutely. I think it is very clear

:34:16. > :34:20.that out on that tour the support that he needed and should have had

:34:21. > :34:24.was not there. He has had and continues to have a great deal of

:34:25. > :34:31.support and friendship from former colleagues and some of whom are very

:34:32. > :34:36.senior, but there has been a lack of support from other aspects of the

:34:37. > :34:41.Royal Marine Corps. And what do you think about that? I think it is

:34:42. > :34:46.inevitable to be honest. We were in a court martial process on

:34:47. > :34:51.effectively opposing sides and that saddens me because what we should

:34:52. > :34:54.have done and should now do is work together to make sure that the

:34:55. > :34:58.lessons from this case are learned. Well, what lessons would you draw

:34:59. > :35:04.from your husband's case then? There are many. And they start with the

:35:05. > :35:09.support that the men need in situations that they find themselves

:35:10. > :35:13.and a process that makes sure that that support is in place and is

:35:14. > :35:20.recorded, but there are also huge lessons to be learnt from the court

:35:21. > :35:23.martial process which failed him significantly in the original

:35:24. > :35:27.hearings and that needs to be addressed.

:35:28. > :35:31.When your husband is finally free, what will be the first thing you say

:35:32. > :35:37.to him? What will be the first thing you do together? I think we'll just

:35:38. > :35:46.have a huge hug and spend sometime together, making sure that we set

:35:47. > :35:50.off on our re-established married life together and doing whatever it

:35:51. > :35:54.is that we decide we want to do. Thank you very much. Thank you very

:35:55. > :35:59.much for talking to us, Clare. A pleasure.

:36:00. > :36:03.Phil says the way the authorities treat our soldiers are appalling.

:36:04. > :36:09.I'm really surprised they put their lives on the line for these

:36:10. > :36:17.unthankful people. A viewer says, "Murder is murder. There is no

:36:18. > :36:18.excuse." Audrey says, "I wish Clare and Alexander Blackman happiness

:36:19. > :36:23.going forward." As many as half of all babies

:36:24. > :36:27.in England have slept in the same bed as their parents by the time

:36:28. > :36:30.they are six months old. But this programme has been told

:36:31. > :36:32.that many parents who co-sleep are so fearful about being judged

:36:33. > :36:35.they are not telling Experts say they're concerned that

:36:36. > :36:38.guidance on how to minimise Our reporter Amber Haque bought

:36:39. > :36:43.you her full report an hour ago. She's been part of you for

:36:44. > :36:56.the past nine months. So to have her close is just

:36:57. > :36:59.the most-natural thing in the world. Dawn Barclay and her partner Andy

:37:00. > :37:07.had their second child Fern in 2014. Can you take me back

:37:08. > :37:10.to the night when it happened? Fern had slept quite well

:37:11. > :37:14.that night in her Moses We both had fallen back asleep,

:37:15. > :37:34.but we were lying on the couch. When I woke up, I had

:37:35. > :37:40.obviously discovered So I remember lifting her up

:37:41. > :37:48.and just running through to Andy Andy was amazing.

:37:49. > :37:59.He started doing CPR. I thought he had managed

:38:00. > :38:04.to bring her back. He managed to get the colour

:38:05. > :38:10.to come back in her cheeks. So her daddy gave

:38:11. > :38:19.her her last breath. The NHS estimates that just under

:38:20. > :38:25.300 babies die unexpectedly in their sleep every year

:38:26. > :38:27.as a result of Sudden Half of those are thought

:38:28. > :38:53.to be co-sleeping. Elaine McInnis advised health

:38:54. > :38:55.watchdog NICE about their guidelines Three years on, she says

:38:56. > :38:58.there's a concern parents are not being truthful,

:38:59. > :39:01.and the guidelines on how to do it They would go as far as to say

:39:02. > :39:12.that they are scared that they would be told

:39:13. > :39:15.they are a bad mother and have their children

:39:16. > :39:17.taken away from them, 13 months later, Dawn had

:39:18. > :39:37.another baby, called Faye. Anyone can get a leaflet with

:39:38. > :39:47.guidelines, but putting a face to it, it is still tearing families

:39:48. > :39:54.apart. Poppy says my son could have died

:39:55. > :40:01.when co-sleeping between my husband and I. I woke to find him very hot

:40:02. > :40:05.and red. This is from a doctor, I resuscitated babies in the emergency

:40:06. > :40:09.department. I co slept with my first daughter because she would never

:40:10. > :40:13.sleep in her crib. She would sleep on my chest and owicationly under

:40:14. > :40:17.covers breaking every rule. It was never my intention, just the result

:40:18. > :40:20.of exhaustion. It was clearly risky and I once found her under the

:40:21. > :40:24.covers on her head in a position that could have compromised her

:40:25. > :40:28.airway and breathing, fortunately she was OK. Now, with my second

:40:29. > :40:33.child, every night, I'm adamant she will stay in her crib, but

:40:34. > :40:37.exhaustion often gets the better of me and she is frequently sleeping on

:40:38. > :40:41.me by the morning. Mothers need advice and support, not to feel

:40:42. > :40:44.judged and scared to talk to their health visitor.

:40:45. > :40:47.Let's talk to Alison Walsingham a mum of two who shares her bed each

:40:48. > :40:49.night with both her eight-month-old and her four-year-old.

:40:50. > :40:53.Let's talk to Alison Walsingham a mum of two who shares her bed each

:40:54. > :40:55.night with both her eight-month-old and her four-year-old.

:40:56. > :40:57.Elaine McInnes who advised the health watchdog NICE

:40:58. > :41:03.Let's talk to Alison Walsingham a mum of two who shares her bed each

:41:04. > :41:12.Tell us why you sleep with your eight-month-old and four-year-old

:41:13. > :41:16.children? I would class myself as a lazy parent in that I don't want to

:41:17. > :41:20.have to get out of bed to feed my child. I found with my son

:41:21. > :41:24.especially when I tried to put him in the cot, he was distraught. And

:41:25. > :41:31.the only time he was happy was when he was in the bed next to me. So for

:41:32. > :41:35.me, it made logical sense to have him in my bed with me. With my

:41:36. > :41:44.daughter, that was just the way we did things. How do you sort the room

:41:45. > :41:50.out? My other half as a full-time job. He doesn't want to be woken up

:41:51. > :41:54.by the baby feeding or being kicked. I have the children either side of

:41:55. > :41:57.me. At no point would the children be allowed to be in the bed on their

:41:58. > :42:04.own. And you have a duvet and sheets. Where are the pillows? My

:42:05. > :42:08.son who is four shares a duvet, but the eight-month-old has her own

:42:09. > :42:12.blanket and no pillows. It is almost like two separate beds, but they're

:42:13. > :42:19.together, the beds on the floor so they can't roll out and... Dud feel

:42:20. > :42:24.judged? Absolutely. Do you? I feel that with most of my parenting and I

:42:25. > :42:26.work with a lot of parents who talk about sleep problems with children

:42:27. > :42:30.and how sleep would be so much easier if they could bring their

:42:31. > :42:35.baby into their bed with them, but they can't because you get the

:42:36. > :42:39.usual, oh you'll never get your baby out of your bed or you're going to

:42:40. > :42:44.kill your baby if you bring them into the bed. So people do judge you

:42:45. > :42:47.because it is not seen as a society norm.

:42:48. > :42:53.Even though we are all doing it. We're not all doing t are we? There

:42:54. > :42:58.is a proportion that are doing it, as your e-mails have said, you know,

:42:59. > :43:03.it might not be purposely, but at some point most parents have shared

:43:04. > :43:14.their bed with their child. Elaine, what's the advice to parents? The

:43:15. > :43:24.advice to parents is, the lullaby guidelines. So for the six months of

:43:25. > :43:30.baby's life they sleep in their own cot on their back in your room.

:43:31. > :43:34.There is 700,000 babies born aier and half of them, half of them,

:43:35. > :43:39.will, whether it is intentionally or non intentionally have co slept with

:43:40. > :43:45.one or both parents within the first three months. Is that safe? There is

:43:46. > :43:51.associated risks and that's what the NICE, the update of the guidelines

:43:52. > :43:58.three years ago through extensive evidence, looking at the evidence

:43:59. > :44:07.base, they found no direct correlation between co-sleeping and

:44:08. > :44:12.SIDs, but there was associated risks which if parents are smoking,

:44:13. > :44:17.drinking, drug tacking, and the baby is premature, or the baby is

:44:18. > :44:22.premature, it could be any one of those four points, a premature baby

:44:23. > :44:27.is a baby born before 37 weeks of pregnancy.

:44:28. > :44:30.Have you lied to a medical professional or a health visitor

:44:31. > :44:35.about the fact that you sleep in the same bed with your children? I did

:44:36. > :44:39.with my first. I was convinced if I was honest that they would take my

:44:40. > :44:45.baby away. Really? The fear that you have when you're sat in front of a

:44:46. > :44:55.health visitor and they are saying, "Where does your baby sleep?" When

:44:56. > :44:59.you say they sleep in a cot. No one said, "Oh you're bed sharing, would

:45:00. > :45:03.you like to do this safely?" With my daughter I was aware of how to do it

:45:04. > :45:08.safely I was confident in my decision to say, yes, I share a bed

:45:09. > :45:15.with my children and di-it safely and I'm fully aware of the risks and

:45:16. > :45:24.how to prevent those risks. Jenny, how do you react to what Alison

:45:25. > :45:27.does? We have got clear guidance that's there and health

:45:28. > :45:30.professionals have a good discussion with points and you have taken a

:45:31. > :45:34.really informed decision which is absolutely what all of us want to

:45:35. > :45:37.happen. We don't want anyone to be lying to health professionals. They

:45:38. > :45:42.know the advice that's out there, what we want parents to be doing is

:45:43. > :45:46.to realise that you are not a safe bed sharer is 100% of the time. You

:45:47. > :45:50.can have it really the safest way that you can do that co-sleeping and

:45:51. > :45:54.then that night you have a glass of wine, suddenly you are in the high

:45:55. > :46:03.ricks situation and everybody agrees the baby should not be in the bed

:46:04. > :46:09.Are you saying it is OK for people like Alison to co-sleep, because she

:46:10. > :46:14.has made an informed decision? We are saying it is her choice to make

:46:15. > :46:18.that. We will always say the safest places in the cot in the room. Want

:46:19. > :46:21.the babies to be close. But if you are aware of those risks and

:46:22. > :46:26.minimise them as them as much as possible then that is your decision.

:46:27. > :46:31.It is a slight increased risk, but if you take out all of those

:46:32. > :46:34.high-risk factors, it is a small risk. I was just cant say that we

:46:35. > :46:37.missed the point there are associated risks, no matter how your

:46:38. > :46:44.baby sleeps, even if baby sleeps in a cot. They are put down the runway

:46:45. > :46:50.there is a risk for them having SIDS in a cot. There is not anything that

:46:51. > :46:53.is risk-free. There is no way of your baby sleeping risk-free. Every

:46:54. > :46:56.night whether you put your baby in a cot or next to you, you put your

:46:57. > :47:03.fingers crossed and hope that you make it through the night. But you

:47:04. > :47:06.remove the risk. Exactly. Of having had that glass of wine if the baby

:47:07. > :47:13.is in the crib. I suppose there might be fewer risks? There are

:47:14. > :47:18.fewer risks. They estimate half of SIDS are associated with co-sleeping

:47:19. > :47:24.and of those that 90% are co-sleeping with high risks. Angela

:47:25. > :47:29.says I am a health visitor who has been shared since birth, now seven

:47:30. > :47:32.months at work I always inform parents of the safe sleep

:47:33. > :47:43.guidelines. Ashley, I co-slept with my daughter, we had no duvet just a

:47:44. > :47:46.blanket. Responses are that the health visitors help, I think they

:47:47. > :47:51.push more stress on to you, explaining your child could die due

:47:52. > :47:56.to co-sleeping. Perhaps they should explain the percentage to first-time

:47:57. > :47:59.parents. Elaine, have you come across anecdotal evidence that

:48:00. > :48:05.parents lie about the fact they sleep in the same bed? Absolutely,

:48:06. > :48:12.anecdotal evidence from other health visitors and parents too. Exactly as

:48:13. > :48:15.Alison said, there is still a stigma in this day and age that parents

:48:16. > :48:19.think we will take babies away, we will judge them, they will be bad

:48:20. > :48:24.parents. Actually, health visitors are the only service in the lives of

:48:25. > :48:31.every single parent in this country who has a baby, has a health

:48:32. > :48:34.visitor, Alliance to them. So that is a key person for five years

:48:35. > :48:37.potentially they can build a really good relationship with, and building

:48:38. > :48:41.a trusting relationship with your health visitor means that you should

:48:42. > :48:45.be able to have those open and honest discussions and not feel

:48:46. > :48:48.judged. Question, which I know you will have been asked a million times

:48:49. > :48:54.but I am really interested, your husband is in a separate room, at

:48:55. > :49:01.what point do you wean your children into their own beds? When they are

:49:02. > :49:04.ready. Eight, ten? I will say when my son is 18 he will not want to

:49:05. > :49:08.share a bed with me but if he is eight or ten and that makes

:49:09. > :49:12.uncomfortable. Does it impact on your relationship with your husband?

:49:13. > :49:19.I wouldn't say that when I have a new baby, clearly not! It is about

:49:20. > :49:24.being a bit more imaginative with your relationship. It is about

:49:25. > :49:28.putting your children first, but you can find ways to be intimate with

:49:29. > :49:32.your partner, you don't have to be in a bedroom where your children are

:49:33. > :49:35.sleeping. It is just one of those things that people assume if you

:49:36. > :49:39.have your baby in your bed then you can't be intimate with your partner,

:49:40. > :49:43.which is completely untrue. Thank you for being so honest, I was not

:49:44. > :49:46.expecting you to be as honest as you have, but I really appreciate it,

:49:47. > :49:53.because I know people will be thinking what is the deal? That's

:49:54. > :49:58.all right. If people are confused at all, where can they go to look for

:49:59. > :50:03.the latest up-to-date advice? There is loads on the Lullaby trust's

:50:04. > :50:07.website, we have a helpline if you have any particular concerns but

:50:08. > :50:10.also speak to the health visitors. The vast majority now this advice

:50:11. > :50:15.and want to have honest discussions with parents and make sure they are

:50:16. > :50:19.aware of risks, and have made that informed decision. Engage, and there

:50:20. > :50:25.are lots of us out willing to do that. Thank you all very much, thank

:50:26. > :50:28.you for coming on the programme. If you have been affected by any of the

:50:29. > :50:30.issues we have talked about from our film, there are details of

:50:31. > :50:48.organisations that can help. PMQs first and then the reason gets

:50:49. > :50:53.up and makes her address to her colleagues about the letter she has

:50:54. > :50:57.written, which the process of Britain leaving the European Union.

:50:58. > :51:00.Don says we voted to leave without knowing the possible outcome. Just

:51:01. > :51:05.accept the consequences and move on because what is done is done. Voted

:51:06. > :51:09.remain but so sick of the squabbling. No one knows what will

:51:10. > :51:12.happen post-Brexit, not even the politicians. Stephen said I voted

:51:13. > :51:16.remain, I can't believe this government is going forward with

:51:17. > :51:20.such a small majority towards a catastrophe that would leave Britain

:51:21. > :51:25.as a cold, damp, overcrowded island on the edge of Europe with no close

:51:26. > :51:28.friends. We were cold and damp in Europe, we will continue to be cold

:51:29. > :51:31.and that once we leave the European Union!

:51:32. > :51:33.Next - this really is an incredible story.

:51:34. > :51:35.A paralysed man has been able to feed himself

:51:36. > :51:37.by using his thoughts to send messages from implants

:51:38. > :51:44.53-year-old Bill Kochevar, who's from Ohio in the States,

:51:45. > :51:48.It the first time anyone with complete paralysis has ever

:51:49. > :51:49.been able to restore brain-controlled

:51:50. > :52:16.I remember up to the accident and then after that,

:52:17. > :52:30.I was following a mail truck and I was keeping my distance pretty

:52:31. > :52:32.good, but then it stopped to deliver a package.

:52:33. > :52:36.I ran right into the back of the mail truck.

:52:37. > :52:39.People have to do stuff for me that I can't do myself.

:52:40. > :52:42.They have to turn me every two hours.

:52:43. > :52:44.If I want water, they have to give me water.

:52:45. > :52:55.This research has enhanced my ability to be able to do things.

:52:56. > :52:57.The participant also uses a mobile arm support

:52:58. > :53:01.to support his arm against gravity, but that mobile arm support

:53:02. > :53:03.is also under cord control meaning by thinking about,

:53:04. > :53:09.he causes mobile arm support to raise and lower his shoulder.

:53:10. > :53:12.I'm still wild every time I do something amazing.

:53:13. > :53:22.One day they had some mashed potatoes and lo and behold

:53:23. > :53:44.I was able to eat the mashed potatoes really well.

:53:45. > :53:46.Raquel Siganporia is a paraplegic and speaks

:53:47. > :53:53.Professor Kevin Warrick is from the University of Reading

:53:54. > :54:08.He was the first person to have a similar implant, is this right? Yes,

:54:09. > :54:12.in an experiment 15 years ago back in Reading, and it was very

:54:13. > :54:15.successful. I had it in my peripheral nervous system to show

:54:16. > :54:21.what was possible. Explain how it works, then? In this case, someone

:54:22. > :54:23.who is paralysed through an injury, they have a break in the nervous

:54:24. > :54:29.system, but they still have the thoughts about moving in their motor

:54:30. > :54:34.cortex, in their brain. So the implant consists of a bunch of

:54:35. > :54:37.electrodes, it looks a bit like a very small hairbrush, fired into

:54:38. > :54:41.that part of the brain, so that when they think about moving, the

:54:42. > :54:45.electrodes pick up those signals, and they transmit them via a

:54:46. > :54:49.computer to electrodes in the nervous system. So it is like

:54:50. > :54:53.rewiring the nervous system over the break that was caused by the

:54:54. > :55:00.accident. We are showing pictures of it now. Raquel, how do you react to

:55:01. > :55:03.this? I mean, it is fascinating, isn't it, to think how far

:55:04. > :55:09.technology has come, that you can move your arm, which through thought

:55:10. > :55:13.control alone, it is a bit mind-boggling. But it is one person,

:55:14. > :55:20.or very few people who do benefit from this. It is about being

:55:21. > :55:25.cautious. No one can go out tomorrow and get it ruled out. For the 1200

:55:26. > :55:30.people that get it -- get it real doubt. As a trustee for the spinal

:55:31. > :55:32.injuries Association, we want to help people who have become

:55:33. > :55:37.paralysed, and if this technology can take off and be real doubt

:55:38. > :55:42.nationally, that would be amazing for everyone. How does your

:55:43. > :55:46.organisation help people? We support people from the moment they first

:55:47. > :55:50.become injured by going in, giving support to both the person who was

:55:51. > :55:53.injured but also their families because it is their family mothers

:55:54. > :55:59.who have to pick up the pieces at the very early stages. It is about

:56:00. > :56:02.guiding them through what they can expect, this is what your injury

:56:03. > :56:05.means, this is how you can still work, how you can get benefits if

:56:06. > :56:10.you knew the benefits to support you in those early stages. And this is

:56:11. > :56:14.how you rebuild your life. We are here, you can use us as much or as

:56:15. > :56:21.little as you want but we are your port of call until whenever you need

:56:22. > :56:26.us. But there will be people who have become paralysed two will see

:56:27. > :56:30.this story, and will say I need what he has got. Absolutely, and there is

:56:31. > :56:34.nothing more devastating, I have a client who was 15 when she became

:56:35. > :56:38.paralysed and she can't move her arms, she can't put her make-up on,

:56:39. > :56:46.she can't put keys through the doors. I can't begin to imagine the

:56:47. > :56:50.level of independence taken away from you when you can't do something

:56:51. > :56:55.as simple or basic as putting eyeliner on. For people like her,

:56:56. > :57:01.she will want to watch this and see what can we do to get it rolled out

:57:02. > :57:06.to benefit? Professor Warwick, what are the chances of it being --

:57:07. > :57:11.Professor Warrick, what are the chances of it being rolled out? It

:57:12. > :57:16.is very experimental at this stage, it was 15 years ago would the first

:57:17. > :57:20.experiments with this and it is already taking a look longer than it

:57:21. > :57:26.should do and it hurts me when I see people who are paralysed and they

:57:27. > :57:29.can't do things knowing that the technology is there that can help

:57:30. > :57:36.them. It is a case of money and research to make it happen. How many

:57:37. > :57:44.more years do you think? It is how much money. It could be a whole load

:57:45. > :57:48.of people, the technology works. This is the latest experiment. A

:57:49. > :57:52.year ago, there was another man who had signals passed to the outside,

:57:53. > :57:57.to stimulate the outside of his arm. Now this is another step forward but

:57:58. > :58:01.particularly for hand movement, like movements are a bit more difficult

:58:02. > :58:04.because the legs have to support the body, so they need extra power

:58:05. > :58:08.requirements. But for our movements, we can see what is possible from

:58:09. > :58:13.this latest experiment. Thank you very much -- arm movements.

:58:14. > :58:27.Thank you both. Thank you very much for your company today. Stay with

:58:28. > :58:30.BBC News for coverage of the triggering of Article 50 at about 20

:58:31. > :58:32.past 12 this lunchtime.