21/04/2017

:00:00. > :00:07.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

:00:08. > :00:19.France under attack again - a gun man opens fire on a policeman

:00:20. > :00:21.on the historic Champs-Elysee in central Paris, killing one

:00:22. > :00:31.Authorities say he was known to them.

:00:32. > :00:35.TRANSLATION: We are convinced that the investigations

:00:36. > :00:37.will show that this attack was terrorist in nature.

:00:38. > :00:39.We'll be bringing you live updates and analysis

:00:40. > :00:43.Also on today's programme - a clearer picture is emerging

:00:44. > :00:45.of young people who commit computer crimes, or hackers.

:00:46. > :00:48.A report by the National Crime Agency says that they do it to show

:00:49. > :00:50.off to other teenagers, NOT to make money.

:00:51. > :01:01.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:01:02. > :01:06.We are going to talk about Netflix series 13 Reasons Why.

:01:07. > :01:08.It's been criticised by some over its portrayal of suicide.

:01:09. > :01:11.Now the series writer has given his defence of the show

:01:12. > :01:18.We are also talking to a dad about why his blogs on having

:01:19. > :01:22.testicular cancer have proved such a hit.

:01:23. > :01:25.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:01:26. > :01:35.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:01:36. > :01:38.The French authorities say they know the identity of the man

:01:39. > :01:40.who shot dead a policeman, and seriously wounded two others,

:01:41. > :01:42.on the Champs-Elysees in central Paris last night.

:01:43. > :01:45.The gunman was killed when officers returned fire, but prosecutors say

:01:46. > :01:48.they won't release his name until they know whether or not

:01:49. > :01:51.The French President, Francois Hollande, has said he's

:01:52. > :01:54.The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.

:01:55. > :02:08.The area is dangerous because of shot gun.

:02:09. > :02:12.In the minutes after the attack, the police in Paris took every

:02:13. > :02:16.At this stage officers didn't know if any other gunmen

:02:17. > :02:20.The shooting happened right in the centre of the city,

:02:21. > :02:24.as Parisians and tourists were heading out to dinner.

:02:25. > :02:27.TRANSLATION: I was walking on the pavement.

:02:28. > :02:32.The man parked just in front of the bus and then he got out

:02:33. > :02:36.a Kalashnikov and then he shot six times.

:02:37. > :02:43.TRANSLATION: We were moving towards a car and then

:02:44. > :02:45.I heard two or three shots, but I didn't realise

:02:46. > :02:49.And, well, then there was just panic all around.

:02:50. > :02:51.Everyone started running down the Champs-Elysee.

:02:52. > :02:53.Just by instinct, I didn't stop to work

:02:54. > :02:56.out what was going on, I just ran too.

:02:57. > :02:59.The Champs-Elysee was already full of police officers guarding

:03:00. > :03:02.against an attack on civilians, but it seems that this shooting

:03:03. > :03:11.TRANSLATION: We are convinced that the track the investigation

:03:12. > :03:16.is on will reveal that the event is of a terrorist nature.

:03:17. > :03:19.Late into the night here the police are still stopping people

:03:20. > :03:21.from approaching the scene of the attack just a block

:03:22. > :03:31.And everyone around here wants to know exactly what happened.

:03:32. > :03:35.The police want to make sure that all nearby streets are now safe.

:03:36. > :03:44.They searched everyone coming out of a nearby building.

:03:45. > :03:47.This country will now investigate the shooting and make sure

:03:48. > :03:56.that its plans for Sunday's presidential election are in place.

:03:57. > :03:58.The French Prime Minister has also been speaking

:03:59. > :04:02.Bernard Cazeneuve said that the attack would not stand

:04:03. > :04:11.in the way of the election taking place.

:04:12. > :04:17.TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen, the Government is fully mobilised

:04:18. > :04:20.that nothing will stop this fundamental democratic moment for

:04:21. > :04:26.our country from damning dead. On the eve of a major rendezvous, I

:04:27. > :04:32.call on everyone to show the spirit of responsibility and dignity. It is

:04:33. > :04:35.our duty to not give in to fear, intimidation, and manipulation.

:04:36. > :04:39.Otherwise, this would only serve the gain is the enemies of the Republic.

:04:40. > :04:47.Also will, we should never succumb to division, and in tolerance, which

:04:48. > :04:50.must be fought. It is indeed unity more than ever that shall prevail.

:04:51. > :04:56.We will be talking much more about this throughout the programme, there

:04:57. > :05:01.was of course swift security reaction to this incident, as there

:05:02. > :05:05.was at the attack at the Louvre recently, so we will be asking what

:05:06. > :05:10.lessons have been learned in France after the terror attacks that have

:05:11. > :05:15.happened there in recent years. More than 230 people killed in France

:05:16. > :05:19.since January 2000 and 15. We will also talk about the impact this

:05:20. > :05:22.might have on the election as French voters go to the polls in the first

:05:23. > :05:27.round of the presidential election on Sunday. If you have any thoughts

:05:28. > :05:29.on that or anything else we are covering, do get in touch in the

:05:30. > :05:31.usual ways. Annita is in the BBC

:05:32. > :05:34.Newsroom with a summary German prosecutors have confirmed

:05:35. > :05:40.they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

:05:41. > :05:42.the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

:05:43. > :05:47.German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

:05:48. > :05:51.money if the price of With us now is our Berlin

:05:52. > :06:05.Correspondent, Jenny Hill. In the immediate aftermath of the

:06:06. > :06:08.attack as people speculated what the attack might be -- what the motive

:06:09. > :06:12.of the attack might become this probably was not one of the things

:06:13. > :06:17.that came to mind. No, this has taken a bizarre twist.

:06:18. > :06:20.Dortmund is one of Germany's most beloved football teams and many

:06:21. > :06:25.people feared the country had once again been targeted by Islamist

:06:26. > :06:30.extremists. Instead, as you say, prosecutors have now arrested this

:06:31. > :06:35.man, in his late 20s, with joint German and Russian nationality. They

:06:36. > :06:43.said that prior to the attack he bought something like 15,000 stock

:06:44. > :06:47.market options which enable you to sell shares when they drop in value,

:06:48. > :06:52.so the idea, prosecutors believe, was that he was motivated by gaining

:06:53. > :06:56.significantly financially should the shares of the Dortmund football club

:06:57. > :07:01.drop significantly. They believe that is his motive but they also say

:07:02. > :07:04.he was staying at the same hotel as the players, his hotel room had a

:07:05. > :07:09.line of sight to the site of the explosions. We have had more detail

:07:10. > :07:12.about those explosions, you may have heard that three devices had been

:07:13. > :07:17.planted in a hedge along the roadside, two at ground level, one

:07:18. > :07:22.higher ups. They were packed with metal pins, one of which was found

:07:23. > :07:28.embedded in a headrest inside the players' coach as it passed. One of

:07:29. > :07:32.them was also found 250 metres from the original site of the explosive

:07:33. > :07:37.device, so a very nasty attack indeed. We also know that in the

:07:38. > :07:40.event just two people were injured, a police man who suffered minor

:07:41. > :07:46.injuries and one of the players, who had to have surgery on his wrist

:07:47. > :07:51.following damage from broken glass from the back of the bus, we think.

:07:52. > :07:55.So the story has taken an odd turn but I think there will be many who

:07:56. > :08:00.are rather relieved this has not been another systematic IS attack on

:08:01. > :08:05.German soil. Nevertheless, this could have been a very deadly attack

:08:06. > :08:07.and prosecutors are planning a press conference at around lunchtime

:08:08. > :08:12.today. Just briefly, has there been any

:08:13. > :08:14.reaction to this particular development, this bizarre

:08:15. > :08:19.development, as you describe it, from rusted Dortmund or others?

:08:20. > :08:22.It is a little early in the day, prosecutors have only just issued

:08:23. > :08:26.the statement so we are waiting for reaction to come through. I think

:08:27. > :08:30.you have to bear in mind that Borussia Dortmund is a very popular

:08:31. > :08:35.club in Germany, possibly one of its most well loved, there was a real

:08:36. > :08:40.sense of outrage that anyone would strike and strike in this way on a

:08:41. > :08:43.football team, Germany's national game, there is such a passion here

:08:44. > :08:47.for football, this attack really struck a chord not just with bands

:08:48. > :08:50.of the game but people here in Germany and of course football fans

:08:51. > :08:52.all over the globe. OK, Jenny, thank you very much for

:08:53. > :08:54.that. Government plans described

:08:55. > :08:56.by critics as a stealth death The proposals involved increasing

:08:57. > :08:59.the fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

:09:00. > :09:05.there was now not enough time for the legislation

:09:06. > :09:11.to go through Parliament. Prison authorities in the US state

:09:12. > :09:13.of Arkansas have carried out their first execution for more

:09:14. > :09:17.than a decade. The lethal injection of Ledell Lee,

:09:18. > :09:25.who was convicted of murder, was given the go-ahead just

:09:26. > :09:27.30 minutes before his It's the first of several executions

:09:28. > :09:33.planned before supplies of one The average cybercriminal

:09:34. > :09:39.investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

:09:40. > :09:41.and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

:09:42. > :09:44.rather than money. That's the conclusion

:09:45. > :09:47.of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

:09:48. > :09:51.to stop youngsters getting The internet is breeding a new kind

:09:52. > :10:08.of criminal who'd never normally They're young and tech savvy

:10:09. > :10:12.and sometimes don't even realise Investigators questioned teenagers

:10:13. > :10:15.convicted of cyber crime The report found financial

:10:16. > :10:18.gain wasn't a priority. But they did want to

:10:19. > :10:21.impress other hackers. And thought the risk

:10:22. > :10:25.of getting caught was low. The early motivations

:10:26. > :10:27.can be the challenge, can be proving to their peers online

:10:28. > :10:32.that they can complete the challenge or they can break into certain

:10:33. > :10:37.things, or find vulnerabilities. But we do see, if they are good

:10:38. > :10:40.at that and if they can build their reputations in forums

:10:41. > :10:47.and prove to their peers, we do see them then getting

:10:48. > :10:50.into this more for monetary This self-confessed hacker, now 16,

:10:51. > :10:53.claims he taught himself. I got interested, wanted to know how

:10:54. > :10:58.it worked and how this actually happens, how a website

:10:59. > :10:59.gets taken down. You learn about the Computer Misuse

:11:00. > :11:20.Act, which is something you are likely to fall

:11:21. > :11:22.foul of if you go off and do cyber security

:11:23. > :11:24.without any guidance. The NCA research also shows

:11:25. > :11:26.early intervention can Here, teenagers take part

:11:27. > :11:29.in a tech competition, learning how to hack and stay

:11:30. > :11:32.on the right side of the law. And just after 10am,

:11:33. > :11:39.Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

:11:40. > :11:41.about his motivations to get Three purpose-built blocks

:11:42. > :11:45.are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

:11:46. > :11:47.extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

:11:48. > :11:53.facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

:11:54. > :11:57.to isolate extremist inmates who seek to poison

:11:58. > :12:02.the minds of others. A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

:12:03. > :12:06.in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

:12:07. > :12:08.over the next year. NHS England say it must

:12:09. > :12:10.set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

:12:11. > :12:14.diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

:12:15. > :12:16.shouldn't be singled out. It's said that a spoonful of sugar

:12:17. > :12:26.helps the medicine go down, but the country's sweet tooth

:12:27. > :12:36.is having a devastating impact on public health,

:12:37. > :12:40.according to NHS England. It insists suppliers

:12:41. > :12:42.must cut the sales of sugary drinks in hospital shops,

:12:43. > :12:44.restaurants and vending machines over the next year to under 10%

:12:45. > :12:49.of total drink sales. Many retailers, including WH Smith

:12:50. > :12:56.and Marks Spencer, have signed up. NHS England say if all don't

:12:57. > :12:59.come on board, a ban As a nation we are consuming too

:13:00. > :13:03.much sugar which means more people are overweight, putting them

:13:04. > :13:05.at greater risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease and common

:13:06. > :13:07.forms of cancer. So this is the NHS taking a lead

:13:08. > :13:10.on an important health issue. To fight obesity, the WHO recommends

:13:11. > :13:13.a maximum of six teaspoons Just one can of drink can take

:13:14. > :13:19.you over that limit. The idea of making hospitals

:13:20. > :13:22.healthier is aimed not just at patients and their visitors,

:13:23. > :13:25.it is also sending a message The NHS employs 1.3 million people

:13:26. > :13:29.but it is believed 700,000 of them In Scotland, 70% of drinks must be

:13:30. > :13:39.sugar free in hospital shops. Wales and Northern Ireland have

:13:40. > :13:41.introduced their own eating But the British Soft Drinks

:13:42. > :13:50.Association says while it makes sense to promote sales of healthy

:13:51. > :14:01.options, soft drinks should not be singled out for a potential ban,

:14:02. > :14:04.particularly when companies have made great efforts

:14:05. > :14:14.to reduce calories. That is a summary of the main news.

:14:15. > :14:17.Let's go to sport, some sad news this morning.

:14:18. > :14:20.Extremely sad news, in the last few moments we have found out that

:14:21. > :14:25.former England international Hugo Ek York has passed away. A statement

:14:26. > :14:46.came this morning from Spurs, where he had been working as a coach.

:14:47. > :14:53.If you are not familiar with the career of Ugo Ehiogu, he made over

:14:54. > :14:58.200 appearances for Aston Villa between 1991 and 2000. He then spent

:14:59. > :15:02.seven years with Middlesbrough, when the League Cup, as you can see

:15:03. > :15:07.there, with Villa in 1996 and also with Middlesbrough in 2004. He was

:15:08. > :15:12.capped four times by England and also played for a number of clubs up

:15:13. > :15:16.and down the country including West Bromwich Albion, Leeds, Rangers and

:15:17. > :15:23.Sheffield United before he retired in 2009. This will be devastating

:15:24. > :15:25.news for everyone concerned with all of those clubs. He was seen as one

:15:26. > :15:29.of football Cosma good guys, a fantastic personality on and off the

:15:30. > :15:33.pitch. His work with Spurs will have made him one of the highest position

:15:34. > :15:36.and black coaches in English football so it will be devastating

:15:37. > :15:42.news for many concerned with the game.

:15:43. > :15:45.Very sad, just 44 years old. We will be talking more about him and hear

:15:46. > :15:50.more tributes to him throughout the programme.

:15:51. > :15:55.Let's turn to what was happening in terms of football last night. Marcus

:15:56. > :16:01.Rashford putting in a great performance for Manchester United?

:16:02. > :16:02.Another good night for wonderkid Marcus Rashford.

:16:03. > :16:05.The 19-year-old Manchester United forward added to his goal

:16:06. > :16:07.against Chelsea last weekend with the winner in their Europa

:16:08. > :16:09.League quarter-final against Belgian side Anderlecht at Old Trafford.

:16:10. > :16:11.It's been somewhat of a disappointing season

:16:12. > :16:13.personally for Rashford, only scoring 10 in 49 appearances

:16:14. > :16:17.in all competitions, but this was a vital one.

:16:18. > :16:20.Just like the first-leg, it ended 1-1 on the night

:16:21. > :16:22.which meant extra time but with a penalty shootout looming

:16:23. > :16:24.Rashford showed neat footwork to quell any anxiety

:16:25. > :16:30.There were some very concerned faces though as United lost two

:16:31. > :16:33.of their most influential players to knee injuries.

:16:34. > :16:35.Defender Marcos Rojo and top scorer Zlatan Ibrahimovic

:16:36. > :16:41.could have played their last matches this season.

:16:42. > :16:43.Manager Jose Mourinho says he isn't optimistic after early

:16:44. > :16:47.That will be a big concern with a place in the top four

:16:48. > :16:58.And a terrific night for two more Britons?

:16:59. > :17:00.Well what a fantastic performance from 17-year-old Ellie Downie.

:17:01. > :17:02.She has become the first British Gymnast to reach

:17:03. > :17:04.every individual final at the European Gymnastics

:17:05. > :17:09.She also topped the all around standings, and the vault and floor

:17:10. > :17:14.standings in Romania and also qualified for the beam and bars.

:17:15. > :17:16.Her older sister Becky joins her in those two finals

:17:17. > :17:20.with 16-year-old Alice Kinsella going in the all around.

:17:21. > :17:25.Claudia Fragapane will go in the floor final.

:17:26. > :17:35.Ellie Downie saying she is delighted with her performances so far. There

:17:36. > :17:39.is still room for improvement. We will find out about that later

:17:40. > :17:40.today. There is really much room for improvement when it comes to

:17:41. > :17:41.swimming. Duncan Scott hailed a phenomenal day

:17:42. > :17:44.as he's become the first Briton to swim under 48 seconds in the 100

:17:45. > :17:47.metres freestyle. Scott broke his own national record,

:17:48. > :17:50.clocking 47.9 seconds to win gold at the British Swimming

:17:51. > :17:53.Championships in Sheffield. That also gave him a place at this

:17:54. > :17:55.summer's World Championships. Scott won two Olympic relay silver

:17:56. > :18:08.medals at last year's Very good news for him. Just to

:18:09. > :18:11.recap before we go, that devastatingly sad news that we have

:18:12. > :18:13.heard this morning. Ugo Ehiogu has passed away at the age of 44, due to

:18:14. > :18:22.a cardiac arrest. We will hear more tributes to Ugo

:18:23. > :18:26.Ehiogu throughout the programme. We can bring you this from the official

:18:27. > :18:33.FA Twitter account. We are devastated to hear the news that Ugo

:18:34. > :18:39.Ehiogu has passed away. Described as one of football's good guys. Just 44

:18:40. > :18:43.years old. He was the under 23 coach at Tottenham. He collapsed at the

:18:44. > :18:47.training ground yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest. Very

:18:48. > :18:54.sadly, Tottenham announced his death this morning. They have put out a

:18:55. > :18:58.statement, with immense sadness we announce the passing of Ugo Ehiogu.

:18:59. > :19:05.He had a great playing career, playing for England, beginning his

:19:06. > :19:07.career as a trainee at West Brom before he went to Aston Villa. He

:19:08. > :19:16.played more than 300 matches for Aston Villa and played in the FA Cup

:19:17. > :19:22.final defeat against Chelsea in 2000. He scored a club record fee

:19:23. > :19:27.when he joined Middlesbrough for ?8 million. In 2001 he scored his only

:19:28. > :19:33.goal for England in Sven-Goran Eriksson's first game in charge, a

:19:34. > :19:36.3-0 friendly against Spain. He had four England caps. The FA saying

:19:37. > :19:39.this morning that they are devastated to hear the news that Ugo

:19:40. > :19:42.Ehiogu has passed away. We will bring you more tributes to him

:19:43. > :19:47.throughout the programme. Last night, as the 11 French

:19:48. > :19:49.presidential election candidates appeared on television

:19:50. > :19:54.for their chance to pitch for the top job, a terror attack

:19:55. > :19:58.was unfolding in central Paris. A gunman - known to the security

:19:59. > :20:01.services it has since been learnt - opened fire on a bus with police

:20:02. > :20:11.inside killing one It comes with just two days to go

:20:12. > :20:14.before the first round of the French presidential election on Sunday.

:20:15. > :20:18.This is what Marine Le Pen of the far right Front National

:20:19. > :20:20.and Emmanuel Macron, head of the political movement

:20:21. > :20:23.En Marche, said when they heard about the attack.

:20:24. > :20:25.TRANSLATION: I left the set earlier and I heard that the nightmare

:20:26. > :20:29.I was gripped by feelings I felt before, of sadness and dull

:20:30. > :20:33.Feelings of sadness, of course, for the law-enforcement officers

:20:34. > :20:36.who are once more paying a heavy price in the fight against

:20:37. > :20:46.TRANSLATION: Tonight, while we have been talking, we know

:20:47. > :20:48.that at least one police officer has been killed.

:20:49. > :20:50.This threat is incalculable and it is going to be

:20:51. > :20:59.a part of our daily lives for years to come.

:21:00. > :21:04.The latest of elements are coming through, Marine Le Pen is speaking

:21:05. > :21:10.right now. Let's hear what she's saying. -- developments.

:21:11. > :21:16.TRANSLATION: We should fight those that provoke people and promote

:21:17. > :21:27.terrorism. The sympathisers of Islamists should be fought. For ten

:21:28. > :21:31.years, we have seen this happening. In respect of the state of law, the

:21:32. > :21:41.penal code should be applied to those people, while people are being

:21:42. > :21:43.judged and being held in detention. The universities and France have

:21:44. > :22:00.become the fiefdom of jihadism. We should have fundamental reforms

:22:01. > :22:07.for the establishment, like immigration, asylum or access to

:22:08. > :22:15.citizenship. The war can only be one by coherence, and our fight against

:22:16. > :22:24.Islamism, so that they cannot escape from this. We cannot win this war if

:22:25. > :22:31.we do not put an end to those who have allowed the criminals to carry

:22:32. > :22:37.out their fourth assassination attempt against a policeman, and he

:22:38. > :22:45.was sentenced to prison in the past. His liberation by prosecutors, he

:22:46. > :22:50.will now become the symbol of the failure of the politics in the

:22:51. > :23:02.country, because it is not protecting the French people. It

:23:03. > :23:08.allows people to hurt our people. We should re-establish a double

:23:09. > :23:15.penalty, double punishment, sentences, all of these measures are

:23:16. > :23:19.urgently needed now. I will take the reverse decision, compared to the

:23:20. > :23:25.two governments of the left that we have seen in the past years, and the

:23:26. > :23:29.President of the Republic, if elected as President of the

:23:30. > :23:36.Republic, I will put in place a plan to fight Islamist and, to protect

:23:37. > :23:41.the French, so that we can live in the Republic. Long live the

:23:42. > :23:49.Republic, long live France. Thank you. Marine Le Pen, speaking there

:23:50. > :23:55.about reports that the man, believed to have carried out the terror

:23:56. > :24:02.attack in Paris, had previously been sentenced to 15 years in prison for

:24:03. > :24:06.attempted to kill a police officer. He has still not been formally

:24:07. > :24:11.named. In Belgium, they are saying he is a French citizen. There was

:24:12. > :24:16.some spec elation he may have come from Belgium. We still do not have

:24:17. > :24:19.formal identification from the authorities. They say they do not

:24:20. > :24:22.want to formally identify the attacker, although they know who he

:24:23. > :24:26.is, until they can be certain there was not a second attack. Let's go

:24:27. > :24:41.live to Paris, and our correspondent there. What is the latest on the

:24:42. > :24:44.investigation, Karin? In the last hour, we have learned that three

:24:45. > :24:47.people close to the attacker have been held in custody, and one man in

:24:48. > :24:51.Belgium turned himself in to authorities. He was a suspect. The

:24:52. > :24:54.authorities are not telling us to much more about the attacker until

:24:55. > :24:59.they work out whether he was acting alone or as part of a wider network.

:25:00. > :25:02.We heard Marie Le Pen, very much still on the campaign trail, saying

:25:03. > :25:09.what she believes should have been done because this man was already

:25:10. > :25:13.known to authorities. Very much criticising governments of recent

:25:14. > :25:21.years, saying what she would do, alternatively, as President, were

:25:22. > :25:26.she to be elected. 15, the far right National Front is anti-immigration.

:25:27. > :25:30.She wants to close France's borders, pull-out of the Schengen zone, with

:25:31. > :25:35.free movement in Europe, completely. How much is her message resonating?

:25:36. > :25:41.France has suffered repeatedly with attacks over the last couple of

:25:42. > :25:46.years or so. Within the polls, she is not the front runner. The latest

:25:47. > :25:50.ones have her sliding further back? Yes, they are really interesting.

:25:51. > :25:54.Although some people are saying that the attacks of last night could mean

:25:55. > :25:59.a swing to the right, a swing towards those candidates, Francois

:26:00. > :26:02.Fillon and Marine Le Pen, who are perhaps considered to be stronger

:26:03. > :26:10.and tougher on law and order, but in the past we have to remember that,

:26:11. > :26:15.after the shootings at the Bataclan, the socialist President, his ratings

:26:16. > :26:21.actually went up. It is much more complicated to see the political

:26:22. > :26:24.picture. It was already very complicated in the first place, the

:26:25. > :26:31.four leading candidates within a hair 's breadth of each other, and

:26:32. > :26:34.20%, all around the margin of error. The election has been completely

:26:35. > :26:41.predictable, even more so now. Thank you. Let's talk more about the

:26:42. > :26:44.reaction to the attack and the potential impact on the presidential

:26:45. > :26:47.election, the first round of voting is on Sunday. The candidates were

:26:48. > :27:06.speaking in a debate last night. Thank you both for joining us. What

:27:07. > :27:15.is the reaction to the latest attack? Well, the atmosphere is

:27:16. > :27:19.subdued. On the other hand, it is something that the French have

:27:20. > :27:21.become accustomed to. We know we're here for a long haul. These are

:27:22. > :27:32.likely to repeat themselves. It It might have a slight impact on how

:27:33. > :27:35.people will vote on Sunday. But I would not say massively. You know,

:27:36. > :27:48.not as if it had happened for the first time. Other subjects, like the

:27:49. > :27:57.economy, loom larger than terrorism. That is really the feeling in

:27:58. > :28:01.France. It is a global issue. Radical Islamism is here to stay.

:28:02. > :28:08.What about the charge that in this attack, and in previous ones, the

:28:09. > :28:12.perpetrator was known to the authorities? It is a theme that

:28:13. > :28:16.keeps coming back. We heard from Marine Le Pen, saying that the

:28:17. > :28:21.Government must immediately expel foreigners monitored by intelligence

:28:22. > :28:31.services. How do people react, each time, when it emerges some body was

:28:32. > :28:36.on the radar? Well, you must give credit to the people in the

:28:37. > :28:42.intelligence agencies. It is not just a question of closing borders.

:28:43. > :28:46.They know that very well. The situation is quite complicated.

:28:47. > :28:49.Again, it goes far beyond the French borders. It is perhaps something we

:28:50. > :28:55.have to deal with in Belgium, for instance. It is also about

:28:56. > :29:01.cooperation between the intelligence services. Actually, a few days ago,

:29:02. > :29:07.you might remember that two Islamist radicals were arrested in Marseille,

:29:08. > :29:14.thanks to rate from British intelligence services. Again, Marine

:29:15. > :29:19.Le Pen is extremely vocal, she is very vocal about every single

:29:20. > :29:28.subject. It will appeal to some French voters. But I think being so

:29:29. > :29:31.vocal has a limited appeal. There was a swift reaction from the

:29:32. > :29:39.authorities to this attack. It was over quickly. The same happened at

:29:40. > :29:42.the Louvre, when there was an attempted attack. What have the

:29:43. > :29:46.security services learned as a result of what has been happening in

:29:47. > :29:49.the country? There are some things we don't know. We also know that

:29:50. > :29:58.there have been a lot of foiled attacks. Recently, as I said, two

:29:59. > :30:02.people were arrested in Marseille. Because of the first and second

:30:03. > :30:14.round, it is a very sensitive period for France and attacks are being

:30:15. > :30:20.devised. Imagine yesterday, the attacker had a Kalashnikov, he did

:30:21. > :30:24.not aim at the many civilians and tourists walking down the Champs

:30:25. > :30:28.Elysees, but targeted the security forces. It could have been much more

:30:29. > :30:34.dramatic yesterday. You know, we have to be careful. Yesterday was a

:30:35. > :30:39.terrible blow. But we're not talking about massive numbers of casualties,

:30:40. > :30:40.like we had in November 20 15. What about the psychological and also

:30:41. > :30:55.economic impact? Well, one attack after the other

:30:56. > :31:05.means that, of course, tourism is on the decline in Paris, which is one

:31:06. > :31:14.of the first capital cities visited in the world, and in France, on the

:31:15. > :31:17.other hand, like as you said in the loop attack, or for that matter

:31:18. > :31:30.yesterday, the police reaction is now extremely swift, and attackers

:31:31. > :31:34.are shot dead immediately. Sorry to interrupt, I was going to say, let's

:31:35. > :31:37.talk more about the election because we were intending to speak to you

:31:38. > :31:42.about that, obviously, because of the fact that we are just two gave

:31:43. > :31:48.away from France coming to the Goals On Sunday in the first round of the

:31:49. > :31:56.presidential vote -- going to the polls on Sunday. We talked about

:31:57. > :32:01.Marine le Pen, she was speaking live as we came to you. What about the

:32:02. > :32:05.other candidates now, is it looking like it will be Emmanuel Macron and

:32:06. > :32:10.Marine le Pen in the final two, because that is what the polls have

:32:11. > :32:15.been indicating? That is what the polls say. Of course now, who knows,

:32:16. > :32:21.after Brexit and Trump being elected, and also Francois Fillon,

:32:22. > :32:26.French pollsters are usually extremely reliable but they did not

:32:27. > :32:33.see Francois Fillon coming fast at the top of the primary is on the

:32:34. > :32:39.French right. So, I mean, it is very likely that Emmanuel Macron will

:32:40. > :32:41.face of Marine le Pen on Sunday. However, there are six possible

:32:42. > :32:48.scenarios and one of them is the hard left Jean-Luc Melenchon on

:32:49. > :32:55.facing the hard right Marine le Pen, that is a possibility that we are

:32:56. > :32:59.all bracing to see on Sunday, so I wouldn't put all my bets on Emmanuel

:33:00. > :33:07.Macron and Marine le Pen. And you said that with so many terror

:33:08. > :33:10.attacks obviously it is high on the agenda, but also the economy, what

:33:11. > :33:18.has been dominating the political debate there? Well, basically Marine

:33:19. > :33:22.le Pen and Jean-Luc Melenchon on, who have enjoyed really dynamic in

:33:23. > :33:27.the polls, especially Jean-Luc Melenchon on, if you look at their

:33:28. > :33:33.economic programme, it is all about spending, spending, spending.

:33:34. > :33:41.Created massive public debt, which is already quite high in France. It

:33:42. > :33:44.is about giving away benefits. Marine le Pen has a National

:33:45. > :33:54.socialist sort of programme and both of them meet on the economic ground.

:33:55. > :33:57.Fillon and Macron, and to aid certain degree the Socialist

:33:58. > :34:03.candidate, have a much more restrained programme so I think

:34:04. > :34:08.people should look carefully at those programmes to see whether

:34:09. > :34:11.France can afford a populist candidate like Marine le Pen and

:34:12. > :34:14.Jean-Luc Melenchon. Thank you very much.

:34:15. > :34:19.Why do young people get into hacking?

:34:20. > :34:27.More than 60% of hackers start before they are 16. We will speak to

:34:28. > :34:30.one former hacker, a so-called good hacker, who was investigated by

:34:31. > :34:35.police at school because of a piece of software he had written all about

:34:36. > :34:36.what is behind it. If you have any thoughts, get in touch in the usual

:34:37. > :34:42.ways. Also in the programme,

:34:43. > :34:44.we'll go to an Indonesian island where people live with their dead

:34:45. > :34:53.relatives. Here's Anita in the BBC Newsroom

:34:54. > :34:56.with a summary of today's news. The French authorities say they know

:34:57. > :34:59.the identity of the man who shot dead a policeman,

:35:00. > :35:01.and seriously wounded two others, on the Champs-Elysees

:35:02. > :35:06.in central Paris last night. Three people said to be close to the

:35:07. > :35:10.attacker have now been detained. The gunman was killed when officers

:35:11. > :35:13.returned fire but prosecutors say they won't release his name

:35:14. > :35:15.until they know whether or not The French Prime Minister,

:35:16. > :35:21.Bernard Cazeneuve, said the attack won't stand in the way of the French

:35:22. > :35:24.election taking place this Sunday. TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen,

:35:25. > :35:28.the government is fully mobilised that nothing will stop this

:35:29. > :35:33.fundamental democratic moment On the eve of a major rendezvous,

:35:34. > :35:38.I call on everyone to show the spirit of responsibility

:35:39. > :35:43.and dignity. It is our duty to not give

:35:44. > :35:46.in to fear, intimidation, Otherwise, this would

:35:47. > :35:50.only serve the gain Also, we should never

:35:51. > :35:57.succumb to division, excess obscurantism,

:35:58. > :35:58.and intolerance, It is indeed unity more than ever

:35:59. > :36:09.that should prevail. The former Aston Villa and England

:36:10. > :36:11.defender Ugo Ehiogu has He suffered a cardiac

:36:12. > :36:20.arrest at Tottenham's training centre yesterday,

:36:21. > :36:22.where he worked as the coach Ehiogu was capped four times

:36:23. > :36:25.for his country and won the League Cup with both Aston Villa

:36:26. > :36:27.and Middlesbrough. German prosecutors have confirmed

:36:28. > :36:34.they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

:36:35. > :36:36.the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

:36:37. > :36:39.German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

:36:40. > :36:42.money if the price of Government plans described

:36:43. > :36:47.by critics as a stealth death The proposals involved increasing

:36:48. > :36:54.the legal fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

:36:55. > :36:57.there was now not enough time for the legislation

:36:58. > :37:02.to go through Parliament. The average cybercriminal

:37:03. > :37:04.investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

:37:05. > :37:06.and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

:37:07. > :37:08.rather than money. That's the conclusion

:37:09. > :37:11.of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

:37:12. > :37:13.to stop youngsters getting It says hacking tools have

:37:14. > :37:23.become too easy to use. And just after 10am,

:37:24. > :37:30.Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

:37:31. > :37:32.about his motivations for getting Three purpose-built blocks

:37:33. > :37:35.are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

:37:36. > :37:37.extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

:37:38. > :37:41.facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

:37:42. > :37:44.to isolate extremist inmates who seek to poison

:37:45. > :37:49.the minds of others. A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

:37:50. > :37:52.in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

:37:53. > :37:54.over the next year. NHS England say it must

:37:55. > :37:56.set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

:37:57. > :38:01.diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

:38:02. > :38:09.shouldn't be singled out. That is a summary of the latest BBC

:38:10. > :38:22.News, Moore at 10am. Let's catch up with the sport with

:38:23. > :38:26.Hugh, more tributes pour Ugo Ehiogu. Yes, and outpouring of emotion

:38:27. > :38:33.already for the former defender Ugo Ehiogu, he has died at the age of

:38:34. > :38:37.44. He was under 23s coach at Spurs, they announced the news this

:38:38. > :38:40.morning, with immense sadness, he collapsed at their training Centre

:38:41. > :38:45.yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest. He won the League Cup with

:38:46. > :38:46.Aston Villa in 1996 and in 2004 with Middlesbrough and was capped four

:38:47. > :38:50.times by England. Manchester United are into

:38:51. > :38:52.the Europa League semi-finals, It took until the second half

:38:53. > :39:04.of extra time to win it, though - teenager Marcus Rashford got

:39:05. > :39:09.the decisive goal before Tiger Woods has had yet another

:39:10. > :39:13.operation on his back to try to cure the pain that's plagued his career

:39:14. > :39:16.over the last few years - it's his third surgery in 19 months,

:39:17. > :39:20.and he's likely to be out of action Ellie Downie is on the verge

:39:21. > :39:24.of becoming the first British gymnast to win the all-around title

:39:25. > :39:26.at the European Championships. The 17-year-old was top

:39:27. > :39:28.in qualifying for tonight's She's also through to every

:39:29. > :39:33.individual apparatus final - a first for any British gymnast

:39:34. > :39:50.at a major international More sport just after 10am.

:39:51. > :39:52.Plans to raise the amount of money some families have to pay after a

:39:53. > :39:56.family member dies have been dropped. The Ministry of Justice

:39:57. > :39:59.blamed lack of Parliamentary time before the general election. That

:40:00. > :40:04.speak to our political correspondent Ross Hawkins. Is this the first

:40:05. > :40:08.Parliamentary business casualty as a result of the election?

:40:09. > :40:13.It is probably one of many. There was a big hike in the fees, what

:40:14. > :40:18.happened is if someone dies and you have to sort out their will, you

:40:19. > :40:21.have to pay a fee, about ?150 if you do it through your solicitor. There

:40:22. > :40:25.was a big change in that announced earlier in the year where it would

:40:26. > :40:29.be nothing for a smaller state with not a lot to inherit but for the

:40:30. > :40:32.biggest it would go up to a five figure sum and plenty of

:40:33. > :40:55.Conservatives, among others, was saying, this is

:40:56. > :40:59.not a fee, this is a tax, how could the Justice Secretary Liz Truss have

:41:00. > :41:02.the authority to do this? Opposition from them and from Labour in the

:41:03. > :41:04.House of Lords, where it would have to be debated. What the Ministry of

:41:05. > :41:08.Justice are saying is not that they have got it wrong, they said it is

:41:09. > :41:10.down to time, but the reality is if they had pushed on with this they

:41:11. > :41:12.would face pressure to get it through, and I am told privately

:41:13. > :41:15.that some senior lawyers were looking into a legal challenge if it

:41:16. > :41:18.came about to say she did not have the authority to do this, so they

:41:19. > :41:21.backed away and we need to work out if this is going to be in any

:41:22. > :41:24.manifesto to do it again after the general election. There is every

:41:25. > :41:26.chance this is not just a casualty of an early general election but in

:41:27. > :41:28.reality quite a big U-turn. Potential handicapper there was

:41:29. > :41:32.something that could have been difficult. -- potential handy cover.

:41:33. > :41:34.You said it is one of many potential items that may not get through

:41:35. > :41:40.because of the timing, what else, how much business was due to happen?

:41:41. > :41:43.One of the big stories of the election, the first few weeks, might

:41:44. > :41:46.not just be what politicians promise they are going to do, it might be

:41:47. > :41:51.what they decide they don't have time to do that they promised us

:41:52. > :41:55.before, for example we won't hear big announcement on plans for

:41:56. > :41:58.grammar schools, on new School funding formula, and what is coming

:41:59. > :42:03.on at the moment, there are debates going on in private, behind closed

:42:04. > :42:06.doors, between the Government and opposition about what happens to the

:42:07. > :42:10.laws that are in parliament at the moment, and that could have a real

:42:11. > :42:14.practical effect. Labour expect to get serious concessions on a bill

:42:15. > :42:18.that deals with some digital services, there are measures that

:42:19. > :42:32.relate to the BBC, they think they will manage to get a

:42:33. > :42:36.concession on that, and on higher education plans, how universities

:42:37. > :42:38.are assessed, a big part of the Government's programme, they think

:42:39. > :42:40.they will get changes there as well as we rush to the point where, much

:42:41. > :42:43.earlier than expected, this parliament will have to finish its

:42:44. > :42:45.work. So there is real debate going on in Parliament that will have

:42:46. > :42:48.practical impact and is likely to sue the Government's plans change as

:42:49. > :42:50.they try to get everything put to bed so Parliament can stop, the MPs

:42:51. > :42:53.can go relate and campaigning probable the general election.

:42:54. > :42:57.. So we have to be Eagle eyed as to what is in those manifestos. At the

:42:58. > :43:02.end of the week in which an election -- and election was unexpected

:43:03. > :43:05.record, give us a summary of how the land lies now.

:43:06. > :43:08.We are seeing a clear impression of how they are going to fight the

:43:09. > :43:13.election. The Prime Minister making the case about Brexit, ironically

:43:14. > :43:17.the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats talking about Brexit, they

:43:18. > :43:22.know they can enter use their supporters, the Tories think they

:43:23. > :43:26.can still plenty of Ukip supporters. Labour are trying to change the

:43:27. > :43:30.conversation, define what the conversation is about. This morning

:43:31. > :43:33.they are talking about school class sizes, Jeremy Corbyn putting himself

:43:34. > :43:37.forward as an antiestablishment figure, and when you talk in private

:43:38. > :43:41.to senior Labour people supported Jeremy Corbyn, and of course many

:43:42. > :43:44.are not, they honestly sincerely believe the sort of exposure he will

:43:45. > :43:49.get now, the way they will manage to get their policies out, because the

:43:50. > :43:52.broadcast media will have to focus on their policies and give them

:43:53. > :43:56.equal billing in the presentation, they think that they can turn around

:43:57. > :43:59.the polls, which look pretty dire. One other thing going on at the

:44:00. > :44:04.moment which could define the future of the Labour Party, though it is

:44:05. > :44:07.not much talked about, as we speak counting is taking place in the

:44:08. > :44:12.election to decide who runs the biggest union in the country, Unite,

:44:13. > :44:14.is hugely important powerful union in the Labour Party and the big

:44:15. > :44:31.question there, a fan in the past of Jeremy Corbyn,

:44:32. > :44:34.Len McCluskey, whether he wins or someone who takes a different view

:44:35. > :44:36.as to whether the union should be involved in Labour politics, Gerard

:44:37. > :44:38.Coyne. Nothing definitive, one person saying it is neck and neck,

:44:39. > :44:40.another says Len McCluskey is head-to-head. It sounds pretty

:44:41. > :44:43.archaic, it is not what we discuss day-to-day, but the result will have

:44:44. > :44:45.a massive impact on power politics inside Labour and who controls the

:44:46. > :44:47.influence on key committees and the purse strings of the country's most

:44:48. > :44:52.important union. When should we get those results?

:44:53. > :44:56.It may depend on legal challenges, I am told there is a possibility they

:44:57. > :44:59.could come out by the end of the day, it could be the afternoon, the

:45:00. > :45:03.evening, later, but I think news will get out one way or another,

:45:04. > :45:04.officially or unofficially, before too long.

:45:05. > :45:07.Thank you. As investigations get under way

:45:08. > :45:11.into last night's attack in Paris, we'll be bringing you the latest -

:45:12. > :45:21.and asking what this means We have heard from one of the

:45:22. > :45:25.candidates this morning, saying that there needs to be a security

:45:26. > :45:29.crackdown and anyone on a terror watch list should be deported. That

:45:30. > :45:39.is Marine Le Pen. It is anticipated that she will be one of the final

:45:40. > :45:45.two, according to the polling. It is still very unpredictable. You can't

:45:46. > :45:48.always rely on the polls. The country is going to the polling

:45:49. > :45:49.booths on Sunday, as the country digests the news there has been

:45:50. > :45:59.another terrorist attack. Let's talk more about Ugo Ehiogu,

:46:00. > :46:04.who has died at the age of 44. He suffered a cardiac arrest yesterday

:46:05. > :46:06.while working at eight Tottenham training centre. He spent several

:46:07. > :46:08.years at Middlesbrough. Tottenham training centre. He spent several

:46:09. > :46:10.years at Middlesbrough. Tottenham training centre. He spent several

:46:11. > :46:15.years at Middlesbrough. A player who played with him at Middlesbrough.

:46:16. > :46:18.Thank you for joining Bristol stop terrible news? Absolutely awful. The

:46:19. > :46:27.first thing that springs to mind when you speak about Ugo is that he

:46:28. > :46:38.was an absolute gentleman. A really generous person, and a funny guy. So

:46:39. > :46:43.sad. A player with a great career. He played more than 300 times for

:46:44. > :46:49.Aston Villa, and he had four England caps? An outstanding player. You

:46:50. > :46:59.look at centre halves and he was right up there. Very quick, very

:47:00. > :47:02.good on tackles, good in the air. As a midfielder, you knew he would win

:47:03. > :47:09.all of his headers, his tackles, kept on top. He was a model

:47:10. > :47:17.professional. Tell us more about him. The words that immediately came

:47:18. > :47:19.to your mind in talking about him, gentlemen, kind, considerate,

:47:20. > :47:29.generous. Tell us more about the man that you knew? As I said, just such

:47:30. > :47:46.a kind... Didn't speak badly of anyone, just took life happily, ate

:47:47. > :47:49.all of the right food, not really drinking, he looked after himself

:47:50. > :47:55.really well. He was a model professional. If you look at the

:47:56. > :48:00.modern-day professional, going back 20 years, it was a drinking culture.

:48:01. > :48:05.He was not like that, he was a model professional. He would look after

:48:06. > :48:08.himself. He was a total on and off the pitch. Neil Maddison, thank you

:48:09. > :48:13.very much, former Middlesbrough player, remembering Ugo Ehiogu. We

:48:14. > :48:16.will have more tributes throughout the programme.

:48:17. > :48:20.Now we are going to show you a film in a minute which some of you may

:48:21. > :48:22.find distressing, as it shows dead bodies.

:48:23. > :48:25.If you have young children with you, you might not want them to see this.

:48:26. > :48:30.Most of us don't like to talk, or even think about death,

:48:31. > :48:33.and as modern medicine helps us push the boundary back it becomes

:48:34. > :48:36.But on the Indonesian Island of Sulawesi, death -

:48:37. > :48:39.or more specifically the dead - are a constant presence.

:48:40. > :48:40.Centuries old traditions mean the dead share

:48:41. > :48:45.Reporter Sahar Zand has been finding out.

:48:46. > :48:50.The dead are a constant presence in Indonesia's island of Sulawesi.

:48:51. > :49:03.For centuries, the dead have been sharing space with the living.

:49:04. > :49:05.After someone dies, it can take months, sometimes even years,

:49:06. > :49:23.Is this a morbid obsession, or could it be a healthier way

:49:24. > :49:31.of dealing with the grief of losing a loved one?

:49:32. > :49:40.Something I have had to face recently, when I lost my dad,

:49:41. > :49:55.But there are some people who DO think they know.

:49:56. > :49:57.In the Toraja region of Sulawesi, in Indonesia, centuries-old customs

:49:58. > :50:09.make the dead a constant part of day-to-day life.

:50:10. > :50:30.This is Danduro - he's 86 years old, and died over two years ago.

:50:31. > :50:31.Ancient animist beliefs intertwine with newer religions,

:50:32. > :50:39.Here, funerals take place months, and sometimes even years,

:50:40. > :50:51.is kept in the house and cared for as if he's

:50:52. > :51:15.To preserve corpses, formalin is often injected into the body.

:51:16. > :51:18.My dad died three years ago, and we buried him in two days,

:51:19. > :51:23.it was all very sudden, it was all very bam bam.

:51:24. > :51:26.And to be honest with you, a few years on, I still feel

:51:27. > :51:28.like I haven't adjusted, it was just too sudden,

:51:29. > :51:53.What's really incredible is that none of these kids seem to be fazed

:51:54. > :51:56.by the fact that there is a dead person lying here,

:51:57. > :52:05.Like many people, I've never really liked the idea

:52:06. > :52:09.So much so that when my own father passed away, I refused to go

:52:10. > :52:12.and see his body one last time before his burial -

:52:13. > :53:03.He died over 12 years ago, and his daughter looks after him.

:53:04. > :53:05.This process, having him in the house, well,

:53:06. > :53:08.in your case, for 12 years - do you think this helps

:53:09. > :53:27.I wish I had that kind of opportunity to adjust

:53:28. > :53:36.I mean, would I have his body in my house a few years after his death?

:53:37. > :53:44.But I sure would have liked the opportunity, and time to adjust,

:53:45. > :53:47.so it wasn't all so sudden, so it wasn't like, one minute he's

:53:48. > :54:02.there, and the next, he's gone for ever.

:54:03. > :54:05.Cirinda will stay lying here until his family have saved up

:54:06. > :54:30.This is a traditional Torajan funeral.

:54:31. > :54:32.They often last for days, and dozens of pigs and

:54:33. > :54:39.Funerals are important, because this is where the deceased is finally

:54:40. > :54:56.The physical relationship between the dead and the living

:54:57. > :55:02.continues long after death, even after burials.

:55:03. > :55:06.Once every couple of years, families bring the coffins

:55:07. > :55:09.of long-departed relatives out of their graves and open them up

:55:10. > :55:18.The ritual is called Ma'nene, or cleansing of the corpse.

:55:19. > :55:20.From the sociological perspective, that's a kind of keeping social

:55:21. > :55:22.interaction between those who are still alive and those

:55:23. > :55:39.she's covered in her most treasured belongings.

:55:40. > :55:43.They want me to show what she looked like before

:55:44. > :55:48.She died three years ago, and got buried two years ago.

:55:49. > :56:27.They kept her in the house for one year.

:56:28. > :56:49.How do you think Ma'nene helps you deal with the grief?

:56:50. > :56:52.All of this is so different to how I dealt with my father's

:56:53. > :57:01.Buried him, yeah, and then until now?

:57:02. > :57:14.Because you visit the grave of your father because you still

:57:15. > :57:16.remember him as your father, and you still have emotional

:57:17. > :57:37.So, perhaps the principles behind the rituals here are not very

:57:38. > :57:54.Remembering our dead is something most of us try to do.

:57:55. > :57:55.But Torajans don't leave that to chance.

:57:56. > :57:58.And for them, there certainly appears to be great comfort

:57:59. > :58:02.Our World: Living with the Dead will be shown over the weekend

:58:03. > :58:05.on the BBC News Channel and will be available on the iPlayer.

:58:06. > :58:11.It's part of the BBC world Service Life Stories Season.

:58:12. > :58:14.If you're watching on BBC Two, in a moment coverage of the snooker

:58:15. > :58:16.world championship so to continue watching our programme turn over

:58:17. > :58:19.to the BBC News Channel - where coming up in the next half

:58:20. > :58:31.His story has been shared thousands of times on Facebook. We will talk

:58:32. > :58:32.to a man with testicular cancer who has been raising awareness of the

:58:33. > :58:39.disease. That is coming up after ten. Let's

:58:40. > :58:50.catch up with the weather. We got used acquired weather over

:58:51. > :58:56.recent days and weeks and that is not going to change. A decent enough

:58:57. > :58:59.start for many of us. This is the scene in County Durham. Some sunny

:59:00. > :59:03.spells to be had. Through the rest of today, across the southern half

:59:04. > :59:08.of the country, it stays largely dry. Some spells of sunshine. For

:59:09. > :59:12.Northern Ireland, north-west England, southern Scotland, a band

:59:13. > :59:15.of rain sinking southwards. To the north of that, pretty chilly whether

:59:16. > :59:18.developing this afternoon with some sunshine and a few showers. This

:59:19. > :59:29.evening and overnight, this band of cloud and some patchy rain sinks

:59:30. > :59:31.southwards across England and Wales. The cloud hanging around for

:59:32. > :59:33.Northern Ireland as well. Scotland, with clear skies, will get very

:59:34. > :59:35.cold. A widespread frost to take us into tomorrow morning. Wintry

:59:36. > :59:38.showers in the north-east. The best of the brightness for Western

:59:39. > :59:41.fringes, although Northern Ireland will stay disappointingly cloudy.

:59:42. > :59:45.Highs of 15 in the south. A largely dry Bay on Sunday, but it will turn

:59:46. > :59:52.much colder for the start of next week.

:59:53. > :59:54.Hello, it's Friday, it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling.

:59:55. > :59:59.France mobilises its security services after

:00:00. > :00:02.The government says the attack won't affect

:00:03. > :00:11.TRANSLATION: The Government is fully mobilised that nothing will stop

:00:12. > :00:14.this democratic moment for our country from going ahead.

:00:15. > :00:16.The authorities in Paris are treating the shooting

:00:17. > :00:20.We'll be live in French capital shortly and get the insights

:00:21. > :00:25.Also, it is believed more than 60 gay men have fled the Russian

:00:26. > :00:26.republic of Chechnya, following what they describe

:00:27. > :00:32.as an ongoing campaign of persecution by the security forces.

:00:33. > :00:47.One man tells us he was detained and beaten.

:00:48. > :00:49.And how one man shared his battle with testicular

:00:50. > :00:58.We'll be asking him about raising awareness for the disease.

:00:59. > :01:08.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:09. > :01:13.The French Prime Minister said everything will be done to protect

:01:14. > :01:17.this Sunday's first round of the presidential election following last

:01:18. > :01:20.night's suspected terror attack in central Paris. French authorities

:01:21. > :01:24.said they know the identity of the man who shot dead a police man and

:01:25. > :01:32.seriously wounded two others on the Shamsi said.

:01:33. > :01:35.The gunman was killed when officers returned fire but prosecutors say

:01:36. > :01:38.they won't release his name until they know whether or not

:01:39. > :01:41.The French President, Francois Hollande, has said he's

:01:42. > :01:44.The far right candidate Marine le Pen says France should immediately

:01:45. > :01:45.reinstate border checks. Mesdames and messieurs you have

:01:46. > :01:53.to stay back, please! The area is dangerous

:01:54. > :01:55.because of a shot gun. In the minutes after the attack,

:01:56. > :01:59.the police in Paris took every At this stage officers didn't know

:02:00. > :02:12.if any of the gunman -- any other gunmen

:02:13. > :02:14.might still be at large. The shooting happened right

:02:15. > :02:18.in the centre of the city as Parisiennes and tourists

:02:19. > :02:20.were heading out to dinner. TRANSLATION: I was walking

:02:21. > :02:22.on the pavement, there was a bus full of police,

:02:23. > :02:24.the man parked just in front of the bus and then he got out

:02:25. > :02:28.a Kalashnikov and then he shot six times, I thought it was fireworks,

:02:29. > :02:31.then he went and hid behind a lorry. TRANSLATION: We were moving

:02:32. > :02:34.towards a car and then I heard two or three shots,

:02:35. > :02:37.but to start with I did not Then there was panic all around,

:02:38. > :02:40.everyone started running down I did not stop to find

:02:41. > :02:44.out what was going on, The Champs-Elysees was already full

:02:45. > :02:47.of police officers guarding against attack on civilians,

:02:48. > :02:50.but it seems that this shooting TRANSLATION: We are convinced that

:02:51. > :02:56.the track that the investigation is on will reveal that the event

:02:57. > :03:03.is of a terrorist nature. Late into the night here,

:03:04. > :03:06.the police are still stopping people from approaching the scene

:03:07. > :03:08.of the attack just a block Everyone around here wants to know

:03:09. > :03:23.exactly what happened, the police want to make sure that

:03:24. > :03:27.all nearby streets are now safe. Officers kept their handguns drawn,

:03:28. > :03:29.they searched everyone coming out This country will now investigate

:03:30. > :03:32.the shooting and make sure that its plans for Sunday's

:03:33. > :03:34.presidential election The former Aston Villa and England

:03:35. > :03:45.defende Ugo Ehiogu has He suffered a cardiac

:03:46. > :03:50.arrest at Tottenham's training centre on Thursday,

:03:51. > :03:52.where he worked as the coach Ehiogu was capped four times

:03:53. > :03:56.for his country and won the League Cup with both

:03:57. > :04:00.Aston Villa and Middlesbrough. German prosecutors have confirmed

:04:01. > :04:03.they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

:04:04. > :04:04.the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

:04:05. > :04:09.German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

:04:10. > :04:12.money if the price of Our Berlin correspondent said

:04:13. > :04:30.bomber's motives may come as some Many people here in Germany feared

:04:31. > :04:36.the country had once again been targeted by Islamist extremists.

:04:37. > :04:41.Instead, as you say, prosecutors have now arrested this man, in his

:04:42. > :04:44.late 20s, with joint nationality, Russian and German. They said that

:04:45. > :04:53.prior to the attack he bought something like 15,000 stock market

:04:54. > :04:57.devices which enable you to sell shares would they dropped in value,

:04:58. > :05:01.so the idea, prosecutors believe, is the man was motivated by the idea of

:05:02. > :05:06.gaining significantly financially, should the shares of the Dortmund

:05:07. > :05:09.football club drop significantly. That, they believe, was his motive.

:05:10. > :05:15.They also say he was staying at the same hotel as the players, in fact

:05:16. > :05:18.his room had a line of sight to the site of the explosions. We have had

:05:19. > :05:39.a little more detail about those explosions themselves, you

:05:40. > :05:42.may have heard three devices had been planted in a hedge along the

:05:43. > :05:45.roadside, two at ground level, one slightly higher up. They were packed

:05:46. > :05:47.with metal pins, one of which was found embedded in a headrest inside

:05:48. > :05:50.the team players' code as it passed. One was also found 250 metres from

:05:51. > :05:51.the original site of the explosive device, so a very nasty attack

:05:52. > :05:52.indeed. Government plans described

:05:53. > :05:54.by critics as a 'stealth death The proposals involved increasing

:05:55. > :05:57.the legal fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

:05:58. > :06:01.there was now not enough time for the legislation

:06:02. > :06:03.to go through Parliament. The average cyber-criminal

:06:04. > :06:05.investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

:06:06. > :06:07.and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

:06:08. > :06:09.rather than money. That's the conclusion

:06:10. > :06:11.of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

:06:12. > :06:14.to stop youngsters getting It says hacking tools have

:06:15. > :06:23.become too easy to use. And in a short while,

:06:24. > :06:25.Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

:06:26. > :06:27.about his motivations for getting Three purpose-built blocks

:06:28. > :06:34.are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

:06:35. > :06:37.extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

:06:38. > :06:40.facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

:06:41. > :06:43.to isolate extremist inmates who "seek to poison

:06:44. > :06:46.the minds of others". A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

:06:47. > :06:49.in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

:06:50. > :06:53.over the next year. NHS England say it must

:06:54. > :06:57.set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

:06:58. > :07:00.diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

:07:01. > :07:05.shouldn't be singled out. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:07:06. > :07:10.News - more at 10.30am. Do get in touch with us

:07:11. > :07:20.throughout the morning - We are talking about what has been

:07:21. > :07:26.happening in Paris, the latest terror attack, one police officer

:07:27. > :07:29.killed and just two days before France goes to the Goals On Sunday

:07:30. > :07:32.for the first round in the presidential elections. Let us know

:07:33. > :07:39.your thoughts on that and everything else -- goes to the polls on Sunday.

:07:40. > :07:41.Also the very sad death of Ugo Ehiogu. We can now join Hugh for

:07:42. > :07:44.more tributes. Tributes have poured

:07:45. > :07:46.in for the former England defender Ugo Ehiogu,

:07:47. > :07:49.who has died at the age of 44 after collapsing at Tottenham's

:07:50. > :07:51.training ground yesterday. Ehiogu won the League

:07:52. > :08:03.Cup with Aston Villa in 1996, and was a coach

:08:04. > :08:06.the under-23s at Spurs. He also won the League Cup

:08:07. > :08:08.with Middlesbrough in a 20-year career that saw him play

:08:09. > :08:11.for West Brom, Leeds, Rangers and Sheffield United,

:08:12. > :08:12.before retiring in 2009. He began coaching

:08:13. > :08:16.at Tottenham in 2014. His former team-mate Andy Townsend

:08:17. > :08:19.has been speaking about his time with Ugo Ehiogu in the last hour.

:08:20. > :08:23.He was a fantastic lad, fantastic team-mate. I had seen him quite a

:08:24. > :08:27.lot recently in his new situation at Tottenham where he had been coaching

:08:28. > :08:35.the younger boys. Absolute picture of health, that is why I am so

:08:36. > :08:39.shocked. Ugo was an incredibly fit man as a player and certainly looked

:08:40. > :08:45.absolutely on top form, so this has, such a shock and it is incredibly

:08:46. > :08:48.sad news. There have been a huge number of

:08:49. > :08:53.tributes paid today, especially on social media. Former England and

:08:54. > :08:56.Manchester United captain Rio Ferdinand said, I cannot believe the

:08:57. > :09:01.news that Ugo Ehiogu has passed away. Calm and warming company, my

:09:02. > :09:05.heart goes out to his family. Rachel Yankee say she is devastated

:09:06. > :09:09.to hear the news of the passing of Ugo Ehiogu, such a lovely kind band,

:09:10. > :09:12.my thoughts are with his family and close friends.

:09:13. > :09:17.Paul McGraw is another of his former Aston Villa team-mates. He says,

:09:18. > :09:27.devastated Bob Ugo, a great friend, my heart goes out to his family and

:09:28. > :09:29.friends, rest in peace. Current Manchester United and

:09:30. > :09:31.England midfielder Michael Carrick says, tragic news about Ugo Ehiogu,

:09:32. > :09:35.so sad, thoughts with his family and friends. A very difficult day for

:09:36. > :09:37.everyone involved in football, but there is some news to talk about on

:09:38. > :09:39.the pitch. Manchester United are into

:09:40. > :09:41.the Europa League semi-finals but they needed an extra-time winner

:09:42. > :09:43.to beat Anderlecht. Henrik Mikhitaryan put

:09:44. > :09:45.United ahead early on but the Belgian side equalised -

:09:46. > :09:51.and there was real concern for United when Zlatan Ibrahimovic

:09:52. > :09:53.fell awkwardly and hurt his knee. Eventually, teenager Marcus Rashford

:09:54. > :09:56.scored the winner that took them through 2-1 on the night,

:09:57. > :10:04.3-2 overall. Duncan Scott has become the first

:10:05. > :10:07.Briton to swim under 48 seconds Scott won two Olympic relay silver

:10:08. > :10:13.medals in Rio last year. Last night he broke his

:10:14. > :10:17.own national record, clocking 47.9 to win gold

:10:18. > :10:19.at the British Swimming That also gave him a place at this

:10:20. > :10:32.summer's World Championships. I'm absolutely delighted with that,

:10:33. > :10:40.it is a bonus on top of winning. It is a good field, it is a field that

:10:41. > :10:46.has lacked in previous years but is coming through to show force, and to

:10:47. > :10:52.share the field of two Scott as well, delighted with that, most of

:10:53. > :10:54.the browser there should be proud of their efforts -- boast of the boys

:10:55. > :10:57.there. With two days to go before

:10:58. > :11:00.the French presidential elections, the country's prime minister has

:11:01. > :11:11.said nothing must be allowed to impede democracy, after

:11:12. > :11:13.a suspected terror attack in Paris. Bernard Cazeneuve urged

:11:14. > :11:15.citizens not to to give One policeman was killed and another

:11:16. > :11:19.two injured in the attack last night on the Champs-Elysees,

:11:20. > :11:22.before the gunman was shot dead. Three of the main presidential

:11:23. > :11:24.candidates have called off rallies on what would have been

:11:25. > :11:26.the final day of campaigning. One of them, the far-right

:11:27. > :11:29.candidate Marine Le Pen, called for France's border controls

:11:30. > :11:31.to be reinstated immediately, and for foreigners on security watch

:11:32. > :11:45.lists to be expelled. TRANSLATION: I would like to restore

:11:46. > :11:49.the Borders at Schengen and to start checking for every people so that we

:11:50. > :11:54.can find the enemy. Soon we should put in place the expulsion of the

:11:55. > :11:58.foreigners who have no identity, especially who failed in nationality

:11:59. > :12:05.test. And to send them to their countries of origin and also to

:12:06. > :12:11.share information about enemies, a global response should require the

:12:12. > :12:18.recruitment of 15,000 further policemen and also international

:12:19. > :12:25.cooperation to enforce our military capacity and use it effectively, and

:12:26. > :12:27.also to use our diplomacy. Marine le Pen.

:12:28. > :12:30.Our security correspondent, Frank Gardner is here in the studio.

:12:31. > :12:35.And we can also speak to Stefan de Vries, a journalist based in Paris.

:12:36. > :12:41.Frank, Marine le Pen saying people on security watch lists should just

:12:42. > :12:44.be deported now, but it is a recurring theme, people who are on

:12:45. > :12:49.the radar and attacks being carried out. It would be very unusual for an

:12:50. > :12:52.attack like this to involve somebody who is a complete clean skin that

:12:53. > :12:56.the police and authorities did not know about. The problem is it comes

:12:57. > :13:00.down to numbers and resources. France has got an enormous number of

:13:01. > :13:02.people on terror watch list, one figure I saw quoted was more than

:13:03. > :13:24.10,000. Britain has over 3000. They cannot

:13:25. > :13:26.go around arresting all of these people because there is not the

:13:27. > :13:28.evidence, they are aware they have shown an interest in ices and

:13:29. > :13:31.so-called Islamic State, in extremist propaganda, but until they

:13:32. > :13:33.start plotting a crime and cross that line into criminal activity, it

:13:34. > :13:36.is very hard for them to do something about it. What tabs can

:13:37. > :13:38.they keep on that number of people? It is very resource intensive, they

:13:39. > :13:40.can spend two months throwing everything at someone, tap their

:13:41. > :13:44.phones, put watches on them, different people changing identities

:13:45. > :13:47.and stop. It is enormously intensive and if nothing is shown in that time

:13:48. > :13:52.they simply cannot afford to keep those resources on that target, they

:13:53. > :13:56.will switch to somebody else. It may well be that person simply has not

:13:57. > :14:00.shown their hand, that is what happened with 7/7, the London

:14:01. > :14:03.bombings, Mohammad Sidique Khan, the ringleader, had not shown his hand

:14:04. > :14:08.at the time they were aware of him, they switched to other targets, and

:14:09. > :14:20.then of course he went into action. What really matters, I think, is

:14:21. > :14:23.whether the right decisions are taken at the right time. They are

:14:24. > :14:25.never going to have all the resources, the French, the British,

:14:26. > :14:27.the Germans, anyone, because the numbers are so huge. Stefan, how do

:14:28. > :14:30.people react when there is an attack and it emerges the person who

:14:31. > :14:34.carried it out was on a watchlist? Of course the people in Paris

:14:35. > :14:37.unfortunately after reduced to attacks, also reduced the fact that

:14:38. > :14:42.thousands of police officers even soldiers are patrolling in the

:14:43. > :14:45.street of the city. Whenever there is a new attack, people are, well,

:14:46. > :14:50.they are not surprised any more and wonder how it is possible in such a

:14:51. > :14:56.heavily guarded city that attacks are still possible, and also the

:14:57. > :15:04.fact that, well, how is it possible that this criminal who was not on

:15:05. > :15:08.the watchlist, contrary to earlier reports, he was a known criminal but

:15:09. > :15:12.was not on the terror watchlist, he was on parole, he did not respect

:15:13. > :15:18.his conditions of parole, so people are asking how is it possible that

:15:19. > :15:22.this person was able to shoot, to attack police officers, something he

:15:23. > :15:28.already was convicted for, because he attacked three police officers in

:15:29. > :15:33.imprisonment and he was released imprisonment and he was released

:15:34. > :15:38.about a year ago, so these are the questions the police forces in

:15:39. > :15:42.France have to answer, and also the political parties, but it shows that

:15:43. > :15:47.the attack, the terrorist threat, is still very serious in the city. A

:15:48. > :15:56.different set of questions that you describe there for what gets looked

:15:57. > :15:59.at in the aftermath of this attack. In terms of security and how it has

:16:00. > :16:00.changed, you said that Paris is a heavily guarded city, describe what

:16:01. > :16:07.it is like. I live in the heart of the city, a

:16:08. > :16:13.residential neighbourhood, and every morning when I open my windows, icy

:16:14. > :16:17.four soldiers patrolling. When I have my lunch, I see another patrol.

:16:18. > :16:28.These soldiers, not the police. They are walking in fours. This is a

:16:29. > :16:32.strange sight, in eight peaceful city, when you see soldiers on the

:16:33. > :16:35.streets. There was a quick reaction by the security services to this

:16:36. > :16:42.attack. A quick reaction when there was an attack at the Louvre,

:16:43. > :16:46.underlining how things have changed? Yes, France has experienced an

:16:47. > :16:52.extended period of emergency. They have the terrible attacks in 2015,

:16:53. > :16:55.first against Charlie Hebdo, the newspaper, in January. Then they

:16:56. > :17:01.have the Bataclan attacks, the theatre siege, " the shoot outs

:17:02. > :17:07.between the police and people determined to go down fighting to

:17:08. > :17:12.the last bullet. Then they had the Nice attack, when the truck drove

:17:13. > :17:17.through and killed more than 80 people. France, they have had

:17:18. > :17:20.murders in the church in Normandy, it has been one thing after another

:17:21. > :17:26.for France. It is right up there as the top target for jihadists, for a

:17:27. > :17:32.number of reasons. France has been very active abroad, it turned back

:17:33. > :17:36.Al-Qaeda's conquest of Mali, it has been active in Afghanistan, the

:17:37. > :17:44.Middle East, at home, there has been a controversial burqa van, you have

:17:45. > :17:49.far right politicians talking about banning immigration, a lot of which

:17:50. > :17:54.is feeding into Islamophobia. Then you have the suburbs, areas of

:17:55. > :17:56.hopelessness, socially, in the suburbs of some French cities, where

:17:57. > :18:05.whole communities feel completely disconnected from the French state.

:18:06. > :18:08.Is there a sense that the political leaders, authorities are getting to

:18:09. > :18:17.grips with how to handle the persistent threat? It is a paradox.

:18:18. > :18:22.France has probably never been so safe, yet there are still new

:18:23. > :18:27.attacks. Although they are on a smaller scale than the attacks we

:18:28. > :18:31.saw in November 2015, with the Bataclan, it shows that the

:18:32. > :18:37.terrorist threat is still real. The profile of terrorists, it is almost

:18:38. > :18:40.always the same. They start out as a petty criminals, they are

:18:41. > :18:44.radicalised in prison and when they get out they attack a target. The

:18:45. > :18:47.last couple of attacks we have seen in France have been very targeted

:18:48. > :18:56.attacks on police officers or soldiers. People in France are

:18:57. > :19:02.unfortunately getting used to these kinds of attacks. The Government

:19:03. > :19:04.says we are at war, people get used to a war rhetoric. Unfortunately, it

:19:05. > :19:10.is something that the French will have to deal with. We have just seen

:19:11. > :19:14.a clip of Marine Le Pen, when she spoke only an hour ago, about the

:19:15. > :19:20.fact that she wants to close borders, she wants to deport

:19:21. > :19:25.foreigners on terror watch lists. This rhetoric, the war rhetoric, it

:19:26. > :19:29.goes well with her electorate. In general, the French do not really

:19:30. > :19:34.believe in tougher security measures. What do people believe is

:19:35. > :19:40.the answer and what has the government been doing in trying to

:19:41. > :19:43.tackle radicalisation? One of the things that should be tackled is the

:19:44. > :19:53.root of the problem. I think your guests just mentioned that, the very

:19:54. > :19:56.bad economical situation, there are ghettos in the country where people

:19:57. > :19:59.do not have the feeling that they belong to the French republic.

:20:00. > :20:03.Basically, they are saying we never hear of the state, why should the

:20:04. > :20:11.state here something from us? They are disconnected. In some areas,

:20:12. > :20:14.unemployment is about 35%, youth unemployment above 50%. These people

:20:15. > :20:20.do not have any hope any more. They don't believe in the French state.

:20:21. > :20:25.They start out as petty criminals, drug dealers, and then slowly some

:20:26. > :20:32.of them get radicalised in prison. They become terrorists. It is not a

:20:33. > :20:36.very... It is a very complicated issue and the solutions are never

:20:37. > :20:42.simple. At the bad economic situation is one of the roots of the

:20:43. > :20:46.reason why France is such a high-profile target. France, as we

:20:47. > :20:50.have said, goes to the polls on Sunday, the first round of the

:20:51. > :20:55.presidential election. Do you expect this to have an impact? Absolutely,

:20:56. > :20:59.security measures will be very serious. There are over 60,000

:21:00. > :21:02.polling stations in the country. There are 50,000 police officers

:21:03. > :21:06.patrolling the streets, as well as many thousands of soldiers.

:21:07. > :21:09.Physically, it is impossible to protect all of these polling

:21:10. > :21:14.stations. There is another problem, the fact that if you let armed

:21:15. > :21:21.police officers into a polling station, that is a very bad sign for

:21:22. > :21:25.democracy. The French will try to do anything to make sure there will not

:21:26. > :21:29.be any attacks this Sunday. At the same time, we see the tension

:21:30. > :21:33.between security and liberty on the other side, or democracy. It is a

:21:34. > :21:37.very, very difficult problem. I think most of the French will go to

:21:38. > :21:42.the polling stations this Sunday feeling secure. But it may be a

:21:43. > :21:46.reason for some people to stay at home. Thank you both very much.

:21:47. > :21:49.Beaten and tortured because he was gay -

:21:50. > :21:51.the BBC speaks to one man who describes his

:21:52. > :22:01.Cyber-crime is becoming increasingly easy, according to new research

:22:02. > :22:05.The National Crime Agency interviewed 80 teenagers that had

:22:06. > :22:07.been investigated by the police for offences such as hacking.

:22:08. > :22:10.It found that more than half of them had first got involved

:22:11. > :22:12.before their 16th birthdays, and they generally believed

:22:13. > :22:18.A hacker that was interviewed for the research said he didn't

:22:19. > :22:20.consider victims because he didn't see the real people

:22:21. > :22:27.Let's talk to Jake Davis, who became involved with hacktivist movement

:22:28. > :22:30.Anonymous when he was a teenager, and was given a prison sentence

:22:31. > :22:33.for being a member of LulzSec - a group that hacked several

:22:34. > :22:36.organisations including the Sun newspaper.

:22:37. > :22:38.And Mike Godfrey, an online security expert and "good hacker"

:22:39. > :22:42.who was investigated by the police when he was at school for a piece

:22:43. > :23:01.Tell me what it was that made you start hacking as a teenager? I grew

:23:02. > :23:05.up in a remote location, the Shetland Islands, with very little

:23:06. > :23:08.to do. I saw this thing, the computer, this amazing window into

:23:09. > :23:13.another world. I wanted to know why it did the things that it did. Why,

:23:14. > :23:17.when opening a piece of software, it connects with other pieces of

:23:18. > :23:22.software, what made the mouse move? Deconstructing it. That curiosity. I

:23:23. > :23:26.think that is what drives a lot of young hackers, and led to me

:23:27. > :23:32.becoming part of the hacker subculture. What was the first thing

:23:33. > :23:35.you hacked? I suppose like most kids do, I messed with the school

:23:36. > :23:41.computer network. I didn't get in trouble for that I helped them fix

:23:42. > :23:47.it. In terms of the Anonymous collective, which I was arrested for

:23:48. > :23:53.being involved with, in 2011 we would to face government websites,

:23:54. > :23:58.especially countries such as Libya, Zimbabwe, Egypt, during the Arab

:23:59. > :24:03.Spring, in support of protests, against dictators, we would replace

:24:04. > :24:07.the with messages of support from Anonymous. Where their political

:24:08. > :24:11.reasons to do that? That is different from hacking a school

:24:12. > :24:17.computer system. Of course. Was literally going back to the first

:24:18. > :24:20.one. There was no financial gain, it was politically motivated. The

:24:21. > :24:25.report, which I think is very accurate, there is very little

:24:26. > :24:29.financial motivation in the black hat hacking world. A lot of it is

:24:30. > :24:35.politically motivated or, more commonly, kudos from other hackers.

:24:36. > :24:39.Often they forget the website itself has been hacked, it is just a

:24:40. > :24:44.mechanism to impress other hackers. It is almost like it is not real?

:24:45. > :24:47.You become desensitised to the very nature of the website being taken

:24:48. > :24:52.out. Ironically, it is the last thing you are thinking about. Is

:24:53. > :24:56.that how you see it? Teenagers think it is effectively a game, a

:24:57. > :25:04.challenge? Definitely. I think that is why a lot of young people get

:25:05. > :25:08.into hacking, it is a challenge. As Jake said, kudos is a huge thing. A

:25:09. > :25:14.lot of the time, it is for kudos. It is more about that, showing off to

:25:15. > :25:18.other people. Who were the kids that get into this? For me, when I first

:25:19. > :25:21.got involved in hacking, it was purely because of an interest in

:25:22. > :25:26.computers and how they work. You find that some of the best hackers

:25:27. > :25:29.just want to see how things work, understand them. A lot of them come

:25:30. > :25:36.from the gaming culture, games can be modified or hacked. Once you get

:25:37. > :25:40.onto that track, it is a very quick succession into cyber-crime and

:25:41. > :25:46.hacking. What proportion of kids who are really into computer games and

:25:47. > :25:51.stuff, that really understand the technical aspect of computers, might

:25:52. > :25:54.be tempted to go down that path? It is very difficult. When you are

:25:55. > :25:58.involved in computer games, you want to find ways to make yourself better

:25:59. > :26:02.at that, increase your score, everybody aims to be at the top of

:26:03. > :26:08.their game. Once you have done that, you have modified games, you want to

:26:09. > :26:16.look at other things to explore. Looking at remote access Trudy --

:26:17. > :26:27.Trojans, they can view webcams, they can key log, all stuff that is

:26:28. > :26:31.attractive to kids. If you go down the wrong path, it can have pretty

:26:32. > :26:35.bad consequences as well. Is it lucrative? These are highly

:26:36. > :26:39.technical skills to have. It can be lucrative, if it is done the right

:26:40. > :26:43.way. We find that people are more interested in the kudos,

:26:44. > :26:47.one-upmanship, than the financial gain. It is actually difficult to

:26:48. > :26:52.earn money on things like credit card fraud. Until you get yourself

:26:53. > :26:55.up to a really high technical ability, that is where you can

:26:56. > :27:00.really start earning some serious money. That generally is not your

:27:01. > :27:05.15-year-old kid. Where have you gone, in terms of what you do now? I

:27:06. > :27:13.was arrested at the age of 18, six years ago now. I do some legitimate

:27:14. > :27:18.security work now, and consultation around that. I am mostly focused on

:27:19. > :27:23.assisting the next generation of ethical hackers, good hackers.

:27:24. > :27:27.Describe what a good hacker does? I guess it is all about motivations. I

:27:28. > :27:32.don't think breaking into a system, wanted to take it apart and

:27:33. > :27:35.understand how it works, is necessarily a bad thing. There are

:27:36. > :27:47.systems out there in place now, such as bug bounties. Companies say, we

:27:48. > :27:51.recognise there are hackers out there, if you find vulnerabilities,

:27:52. > :27:57.tell us about them. Vocabulary high, I saw one for $100,000? The other

:27:58. > :28:02.day, somebody was paid ?7,500. Twitter have paid out $800,000 to

:28:03. > :28:06.freelance hackers. You make an account, you say, I have found a

:28:07. > :28:11.problem with your website, this is the damage it can cause and this is

:28:12. > :28:16.how to fix it. You also get the kudos, you might get put into a

:28:17. > :28:20.leaderboard, you get points and you are this level of hacker, then you

:28:21. > :28:23.get a certain amount of points, you get put on to a programme where you

:28:24. > :28:29.are a trusted hacker, and you might get to tinker with networks that are

:28:30. > :28:35.not yet public. That is how it is going. When I was 15, there was no

:28:36. > :28:39.term ethical Hacker, it was purely hacker, criminal. The fact we are

:28:40. > :28:46.seeing these programmes, job titles and proper systems, that is a good

:28:47. > :28:50.thing. Anybody that has a computer system is very vulnerable to a bad

:28:51. > :28:54.attack. If they can unleash the talents of young kids to actually

:28:55. > :28:59.help them, you can see why that is a good thing? There was an interesting

:29:00. > :29:04.case, a hacker was told by a judge that if he used his powers for good,

:29:05. > :29:09.he would be a real asset to a company. The penetration testing we

:29:10. > :29:13.carry out, we attack companies in the same way as a hacker would,

:29:14. > :29:23.carrying out a remote attack against a server, trying to extract goods.

:29:24. > :29:26.We do that in the same way a nefarious hacker would. At the end

:29:27. > :29:29.of it, we provide a report and don't run away with stuff.

:29:30. > :29:34.His story has been shared 25 thousand times on Facebook.

:29:35. > :29:37.We'll be talking to a man with testicular cancer used social

:29:38. > :29:42.media to raise awareness of the disease.

:29:43. > :29:46.But 13 Reasons Why has caused controversy over its portrayal

:29:47. > :29:56.Now the writer gives his side of the story.

:29:57. > :30:06.The French authorities say they know the identity of the man

:30:07. > :30:08.who shot dead a policeman and seriously wounded two others

:30:09. > :30:10.on the Champs-Elysees in central Paris last night.

:30:11. > :30:12.Three people said to be close to the attacker

:30:13. > :30:17.The gunman was killed when officers returned fire but prosecutors say

:30:18. > :30:19.they won't release his name until they know whether or not

:30:20. > :30:29.One of the leading presidential candidates, far right leader Marine

:30:30. > :30:31.le Pen, has demanded that immediate reinstatement of border checks.

:30:32. > :30:37.The French Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the attack

:30:38. > :30:42.-- said this week and's election will be fully protected.

:30:43. > :30:44.TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen, the government is fully mobilised

:30:45. > :30:46.that nothing will stop this fundamental democratic moment

:30:47. > :30:51.On the eve of a major rendezvous, I call on everyone to show

:30:52. > :30:54.the spirit of responsibility and dignity.

:30:55. > :30:57.It is our duty to not give in to fear, intimidation,

:30:58. > :31:00.Otherwise, this would only serve the gain

:31:01. > :31:04.Also, we should never succumb to division,

:31:05. > :31:05.excess obscurantism, and intolerance,

:31:06. > :31:18.It is indeed unity more than ever that should prevail.

:31:19. > :31:21.The former Aston Villa and England defender Ugo Ehiogu has

:31:22. > :31:26.He suffered a cardiac arrest at Tottenham's

:31:27. > :31:29.training centre on Thursday, where he worked as the coach

:31:30. > :31:33.Ehiogu was capped four times for his country and won

:31:34. > :31:38.the League Cup with both Aston Villa and Middlesbrough.

:31:39. > :31:41.German prosecutors have confirmed they have arrested a 28-year-old man

:31:42. > :31:42.suspected of bombing the Borussia Dortmund

:31:43. > :31:46.Prosecutors say the man, who has German and Russian nationality,

:31:47. > :31:49.was a market trader hoping to make money if the price of

:31:50. > :31:56.British retailers have posted the biggest quarterly sales fall

:31:57. > :31:58.in seven years during the first three months of this year.

:31:59. > :32:04.It's being put down to rising prices since last year's Brexit

:32:05. > :32:13.vote beginning to put pressure on consumers.

:32:14. > :32:20.Prices have been rising across a range of sectors.

:32:21. > :32:22.The average cyber-criminal investigated by the National Crime

:32:23. > :32:25.Agency is just 17-years-old and is motivated by showing off

:32:26. > :32:26.in front of friends, rather than money.

:32:27. > :32:28.That's the conclusion of a new report by the NCA,

:32:29. > :32:31.which has been looking at ways to stop youngsters getting

:32:32. > :32:35.It says hacking tools have become too easy to use.

:32:36. > :32:38.A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals in England is being proposed,

:32:39. > :32:44.unless suppliers cut their sales over the next year.

:32:45. > :32:47.NHS England says it must set a healthy example

:32:48. > :32:49.to help combat obesity, diabetes and tooth decay,

:32:50. > :32:52.but the soft drinks industry says it shouldn't be singled out.

:32:53. > :32:55.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

:32:56. > :33:08.See you then. Let's join Hugh for the sport.

:33:09. > :33:13.There has been an outpouring of tributes to you go at would like a

:33:14. > :33:21.father figure to us all, the words of words of one of his young protege

:33:22. > :33:25.at Spurs. The former England defender died at

:33:26. > :33:28.the age of 44 after a cardiac arrest yesterday. His former coach said,

:33:29. > :33:31.thank you for everything you have taught us on and off the pitch.

:33:32. > :33:34.He won the League Cup with Villa in 1996 and also with Middlesbrough

:33:35. > :33:36.in 2004 and was capped four times by England.

:33:37. > :33:37.Manchester United are into the Europa League

:33:38. > :33:40.semi-finals, after beating Anderlecht.

:33:41. > :33:47.It took until the second half of extra time to win it

:33:48. > :33:50.- teenager Marcus Rashford got the decisive goal.

:33:51. > :33:53.Tiger Woods has had yet another operation on his back

:33:54. > :33:55.to try to cure the pain that's plagued his career over

:33:56. > :34:02.It's his third surgery in 19 months and he's likely to be out

:34:03. > :34:06.Ellie Downie is on the verge of becoming the first British

:34:07. > :34:08.gymnast to win the all-around title at the European Championships.

:34:09. > :34:10.The 17-year-old was top in qualifying for tonight's

:34:11. > :34:37.She's also through to every individual aparatus final -

:34:38. > :34:39.a first for any British gymnast at a major international

:34:40. > :34:43.His story has been shared 25,000 times on Facebook.

:34:44. > :34:46.We'll be talking to a man with testicular cancer used social

:34:47. > :34:47.media to raise awareness of the disease.

:34:48. > :34:50.Over the past few weeks on this programme, we've followed events

:34:51. > :34:51.in the Chechen Republic where it's claimed

:34:52. > :34:55.gay people are being targetted and tortured in prison camps.

:34:56. > :34:57.We've heard from a human rights advisor to the government there,

:34:58. > :35:00.we've spoken with a journalist who says she was forced

:35:01. > :35:07.into hiding in fear of her life after making the revelations.

:35:08. > :35:08.The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov has

:35:09. > :35:10.denied the allegations, despite strong testimony

:35:11. > :35:13.from members of the LGBT community who claim they are being targeted

:35:14. > :35:14.by the authorities and their own families.

:35:15. > :38:06.The BBC's Sarah Rainsford has met one gay man who's

:38:07. > :38:11.That was one man who says he was forced to leave Chechnya because of

:38:12. > :38:17.his sexuality, talking to Sarah Raynsford. Let's get more on the

:38:18. > :38:21.former Aston Villa and England footballer Ugo Ehiogu, who has died

:38:22. > :38:26.at the age of 44. He suffered a cardiac arrest yesterday while

:38:27. > :38:31.working as coach at Tottenham's training centre. We are joined by

:38:32. > :38:38.Mark Bosnich, who played alongside Ugo Ehiogu in 1996. Thank you for

:38:39. > :38:45.joining us, such terribly sad news. Yes, terribly sad news. I'm really

:38:46. > :38:49.shocked, I got in late last night, obviously in Australia we are a

:38:50. > :38:52.little bit ahead, and I saw the news on social media that he had

:38:53. > :38:59.collapsed at the training ground but obviously was shocked at that, then

:39:00. > :39:03.saw literally about one and a half hours ago I had a call from somebody

:39:04. > :39:10.in the UK that he passed away. Words really cannot justify how sad I am,

:39:11. > :39:19.it is a really big shock, especially after Graham Taylor, there has not

:39:20. > :39:25.been much good news, my sincerest condolences go out to his daughter,

:39:26. > :39:28.who we knew from way back in the 90s, and his family and close

:39:29. > :39:37.friends. What was he like on the pitch? Ugo was a tremendous player.

:39:38. > :39:42.Vastly underrated, in my opinion. I would call him a rock, really. I

:39:43. > :39:51.always remember playing a friendly match against Belgrade in 1995 and

:39:52. > :39:55.their players commented that they ran into Ugo and he was an absolute

:39:56. > :39:59.rock. He did not play as many times as he perhaps should of but we had

:40:00. > :40:03.great success, you mentioned the League Cup, he was part of the squat

:40:04. > :40:08.in 94 and in 96 we had a tremendous side that won the League Cup and got

:40:09. > :40:13.to the any final -- the semifinal of the FA Cup, he was an integral part

:40:14. > :40:18.of that. As a man, I have brought him over here to Australia on a few

:40:19. > :40:26.occasions, my parents are extremely sad as well, he was an even better

:40:27. > :40:31.man. In terms of being fit, there were few fitter than Ugo, he was an

:40:32. > :40:35.absolutely superb condition. You said he was an even better man than

:40:36. > :40:42.a player on the pitch, tell us more about the person that you knew. He

:40:43. > :40:48.was somebody was very, very strong but very, very kind, always knew the

:40:49. > :40:56.difference between and wrong, Dwight Yorke and myself were very close, we

:40:57. > :41:03.came out to Australia on end of season trips together. 99.9% of the

:41:04. > :41:11.time he knew what was right and what was wrong. That old saying, only the

:41:12. > :41:15.good die young, it could not be more true in this case. Thank you very

:41:16. > :41:17.much, Mark Bosnich, for joining us with your memories of Ugo Ehiogu,

:41:18. > :41:22.who has died at the age of 44. A new super-low mortgage deal has

:41:23. > :41:29.been launched with what's thought to be one of the lowest

:41:30. > :41:32.rates ever seen, than 1%. The two-year discounted rate

:41:33. > :41:38.is available for those looking to buy or remortgage a home,

:41:39. > :41:42.but they will need to have a hefty A recent survey by the Bank

:41:43. > :41:46.of England found that lenders expect the availability of mortgages

:41:47. > :41:48.to increase by June - which some claim has sparked

:41:49. > :41:53.a 'home loans price war'. Tell us more about why we are seeing

:41:54. > :41:55.an offer like this. There is lots of competition, partly

:41:56. > :42:00.because although the housing market is OK, it is a similar amount of

:42:01. > :42:04.purchases being made every month, about 100,000, at a time when

:42:05. > :42:08.lenders are bringing more and more money to the table. They are all

:42:09. > :42:12.biting chunks of the market off of each other by putting out lower and

:42:13. > :42:14.lower deals, and at the same time you have some new players coming

:42:15. > :42:38.into the market, not just building societies and banks. For instant,

:42:39. > :42:40.there are banks just based on your mobile phone at the moment, and one

:42:41. > :42:43.of those came out with some very low offers recently, 1.29% for five

:42:44. > :42:45.years fixed, in a way even better than this one. It disappeared after

:42:46. > :42:48.seven days so people who are thinking of moving have to be quite

:42:49. > :42:51.fleet of foot to take advantage. I assumed everybody knows you as

:42:52. > :42:54.well as I do so I did not say your name, Simon! Bac Duong, with the

:42:55. > :42:56.five-year fix so you see what you were getting, but it disappeared

:42:57. > :43:00.quickly, how easy is it to gauge what is coming along?

:43:01. > :43:04.This one, which is 0.89%, well under 1%, it is a discounted variable

:43:05. > :43:08.rate, so it could go up, even still having the discount, and that is

:43:09. > :43:14.just for two years, so it is not going to be for everyone. As you

:43:15. > :43:19.said, it has a 35% deposit. Typical house prices nowadays, that is

:43:20. > :43:30.likely to be around ?70,000 or more, so a first-time buyer is going to

:43:31. > :43:33.find that a bit out of reach. Like a lot of these deals, there are fees

:43:34. > :43:36.attached, this one is nearly ?1500 just for getting the offer. That is

:43:37. > :43:40.like 1%, 1.5% on your mortgage rate for the first year. After the two

:43:41. > :43:45.years of the offer it reverts to a much higher rate of nearly 5%, so

:43:46. > :43:48.people have to negotiate this is very complicated, tricky world quite

:43:49. > :43:51.carefully to make sure they are not tripped up by an offer that is not

:43:52. > :43:57.suitable for them. Where are we in terms of the

:43:58. > :44:00.mortgage market, having seen tighter controls, more stringent controls

:44:01. > :44:04.brought in to make sure that borrowers can afford to pay back

:44:05. > :44:08.their mortgages and now it seems there are lenders out there really

:44:09. > :44:11.trying to court business? It is definitely much harder to get

:44:12. > :44:15.a mortgage because the regime now looks very closely at your household

:44:16. > :44:18.bills to see whether you have a gym membership that will be too

:44:19. > :44:22.expensive, for instance, or whether your energy bills are high, and

:44:23. > :44:26.therefore can you afford the mortgage, so it is harder. That is

:44:27. > :44:30.partly behind this competitive environment where lenders are trying

:44:31. > :44:41.to find customers. But for people thinking of buying for the first

:44:42. > :44:44.time, all moving, the big worry is what will happen to house prices,

:44:45. > :44:47.you don't want to buy when they are about to drop, and what is going to

:44:48. > :44:49.happen to interest rates. On house prices, the market has remained

:44:50. > :44:52.quite robust. On interest rates, the Bank of England seems to be sticking

:44:53. > :44:55.to its very low interest rate policy for the moment, so there doesn't

:44:56. > :44:57.seem to be concerned in the next few months that interest rates will

:44:58. > :45:00.rise. So for some people a longer term fixed rate might be more

:45:01. > :45:02.suitable, locking into a lower rate for a longer time.

:45:03. > :45:08.Thank you, Simon Gumpert. It's the hit drama on Netflix

:45:09. > :45:11.and is executive produced by the most followed celebrity

:45:12. > :45:13.on Instagram, Selena Gomez. Why didn't you say this

:45:14. > :45:30.to me when I was alive? My husband and I,

:45:31. > :45:44.we never got a note. Settle in, because I'm about to tell

:45:45. > :45:58.you the story of my life. More specifically,

:45:59. > :46:02.why my life ended. And if you're listening

:46:03. > :46:05.to this tape... But the show's writer has been

:46:06. > :46:22.defending it after criticism from charities who say

:46:23. > :46:25.it is glamourising revenge suicide. Our entertainment reporter

:46:26. > :46:37.Chi Chi Izundu has more on this. A lot of people probably will not

:46:38. > :46:40.have heard about that before, but it is massive amongst a certain

:46:41. > :46:43.demographic, isn't it? Without spoiling it for people that are big

:46:44. > :46:48.fans and have not seen the whole thing, tell us more about it.

:46:49. > :46:52.Massive amongst teenagers, but it is being watched by everybody. Netflix,

:46:53. > :47:01.it is one of their biggest shows. It is helmed by Selena Gomez. She was

:47:02. > :47:04.supposed to play the lead. This is about a teenage suicide, a young

:47:05. > :47:09.girl called Hannah, who takes her own life. Then she leaves 13 tapes,

:47:10. > :47:16.each season, depicting who and why they have hurt, the people she

:47:17. > :47:23.blames for why she has taken her life have to pass the tapes on. It

:47:24. > :47:29.has had a lot of criticism. People say it kind of glamorises suicide,

:47:30. > :47:34.or taking your own life, and also it glamorises other things as well,

:47:35. > :47:39.because they quite graphically show how Hannah took her own life. Some

:47:40. > :47:43.charities are saying it is a how-to guide, some are saying that,

:47:44. > :47:51.actually, it doesn't address depression as it should. Covers a

:47:52. > :47:59.lot of issues, suicide, rape, abuse, self harm, drugs? Does indeed. The

:48:00. > :48:02.UK charity, Papyrus, the national charity aimed at preventing

:48:03. > :48:04.suicides, has issued a warning to young people saying that the danger

:48:05. > :48:10.of this programme is that it romanticises and sensationalises

:48:11. > :48:14.taking your own life. They don't want people to do that, and they

:48:15. > :48:17.said if you feel, if you are vulnerable or not, that you need

:48:18. > :48:25.help, to contact them. What has the writer been saying? He has written

:48:26. > :48:29.an open letter, depicting how we felt it was actually going to help

:48:30. > :48:33.people to show how painful it is to take your own life. He says, having

:48:34. > :48:38.gone through that, in an attempt to take his own life at one point, he

:48:39. > :48:43.wanted to show that it is not a painless thing, that revenge suicide

:48:44. > :48:47.is not a final treatment to something. He hopes that it will

:48:48. > :48:52.save lives. Talking about these things openly, that will bring teen

:48:53. > :48:57.issues to the fore, he says, and then people can deal with them in

:48:58. > :49:00.appropriate ways. If you are feeling emotionally distressed and would

:49:01. > :49:09.like details of organisations which offer advice and support, go online

:49:10. > :49:16.to... Or you can call for free to hear recorded information on...

:49:17. > :49:22.Testicular cancer is one of the most common cancers in young men.

:49:23. > :49:24.As long as it is diagnosed early it's highly treatable.

:49:25. > :49:27.Our next guest was 38 when he was told he had

:49:28. > :49:30.He wants to raise awareness of the importance of early

:49:31. > :49:33.diagnosis, and so he's been writing a blog, which been shared

:49:34. > :49:40.Andrew Lowden realised he had a lump on his testicles and tried to ignore

:49:41. > :49:44.But once he finally decided to see his doctor things

:49:45. > :49:49.Two days later the dad of two was told he had cancer -

:49:50. > :49:51.and then in another week, in his words "the NHS

:49:52. > :49:53.kicked into overdrive" and he had the tumour removed.

:49:54. > :50:05.Now he wants other men to check themselves out.

:50:06. > :50:10.Tell us more about what happened when you discovered a lump. Did you

:50:11. > :50:16.immediately think cancer? How did you react? I reacted like a lot of

:50:17. > :50:20.blokes do, I thought it is probably nothing. I am sure it is just my

:50:21. > :50:24.imagination. I continued having a feel of the lump for the next six

:50:25. > :50:26.weeks. I didn't really know what I was feeling for. I went on the

:50:27. > :50:31.internet and thought, is this how I should be checking myself? After six

:50:32. > :50:37.weeks, I was not sure. I went to the authority on most things in life, my

:50:38. > :50:40.wife, and said, can you check? She said she didn't really know what she

:50:41. > :50:45.was looking for either. We both agreed it was probably time to go to

:50:46. > :50:50.my GP. How big was it? Was it obvious? A small ridge going all the

:50:51. > :50:54.way around the testicle, which is not normal. Lovely men have two, so

:50:55. > :51:02.we have want to compare two. The left was very different to the

:51:03. > :51:05.right. Then most men would say, let's get a medical professional to

:51:06. > :51:10.check us out. You said you didn't know what to look for. Women know

:51:11. > :51:15.about checking their breasts, and there was a lot of advice on what to

:51:16. > :51:24.look for. It is not the same for men? There are a lot of charities

:51:25. > :51:29.around there about testicular cancer and what to check for. Was it on

:51:30. > :51:33.your radar? Not at all, I thought it was not something I needed to worry

:51:34. > :51:38.about, something I had not considered. Having had it and looked

:51:39. > :51:42.into it, I realised that men in my age group, 15-40, they are the ones

:51:43. > :51:44.it affects the most. And you are kind of Invincible at that age, you

:51:45. > :51:52.don't think anything is going to get you. Picking it up early is so key

:51:53. > :51:57.to beating this cancer. It is one of the cancers that is curable, not

:51:58. > :52:04.just treatable, but curable. What are the rates? Like 97%. As long as

:52:05. > :52:07.you get it early? As long as you get it early. I say the beautiful thing

:52:08. > :52:11.about this cancer, there is nothing beautiful about cancer, but this is

:52:12. > :52:13.one where we are actually winning against it. Even if it has spread,

:52:14. > :52:29.it can still be cured. The sooner you pick it up,

:52:30. > :52:33.the easier it is to treat, the less invasive procedures you have to

:52:34. > :52:38.have. If you think you have a lump, get it checked out. The sooner it is

:52:39. > :52:43.picked up, the better it is for you and everybody around you. It is the

:52:44. > :52:47.uncertainty that is the worst. Once you do decide he would go to the

:52:48. > :52:52.doctor, it took six weeks. But then everything happened quickly? So

:52:53. > :52:55.fast. I saw my GP, they made the referral the same day. They filled

:52:56. > :52:59.out a form in front of me and centred off. I got a phone call the

:53:00. > :53:03.same day from the hospital that said they could see me two days later. I

:53:04. > :53:07.work at a hospital, as a physio. I just assumed I was getting

:53:08. > :53:16.red-carpet treatment. It turns out not. That is how the NHS rolls. It

:53:17. > :53:20.is just what they do. They get you in, get you seen, I have a chat with

:53:21. > :53:24.a doctor. He said, surgery next week. It was a whirlwind. Is this

:53:25. > :53:29.really happening? I thought a minute my family and friends. I let them

:53:30. > :53:33.know. I thought, I've got a lot of fringe friends, and I would like

:53:34. > :53:37.them to know my news. One of my friends said, do you mind if I share

:53:38. > :53:42.this? I said, absolutely. He said, you need to make it public. I wasn't

:53:43. > :53:46.a big Facebook user, I did know how to do that, I made it public and he

:53:47. > :53:51.shared it with a few people. The numbers kept climbing and climbing.

:53:52. > :53:57.By the time I got to the surgery, it had 800 shares. I thought that was

:53:58. > :54:05.amazing. I came out of surgery and it had rocketed, into the tens of

:54:06. > :54:08.thousands. The last time I looked at it, 26,000 shares, Canada, America,

:54:09. > :54:13.Kazakhstan, Germany, crazy how much it spread. That is what I want. I

:54:14. > :54:17.want men to know it is OK to check yourself, it is OK to see if

:54:18. > :54:21.anything is wrong. If there is, get down the doctors. What is the best

:54:22. > :54:25.guidance on how frequently you should check? I started an

:54:26. > :54:31.initiative, I called it testicle Tuesday. There has been a logo

:54:32. > :54:35.designed by my good friend. She has been really kind, to let me use it.

:54:36. > :54:38.Every Tuesday, we put it on the Facebook profile and it spreads

:54:39. > :54:43.across Facebook as a reminder to men, it is Tuesday, check yourself.

:54:44. > :54:46.I think the guidelines say once a month is sufficient. We don't want

:54:47. > :54:52.men getting obsessed with it. Feeling things that are not there,

:54:53. > :54:55.wondering what if. At the same time, as a bloke, I need people to remind

:54:56. > :55:03.me to do things, I need my wife to tell me what we are doing at the

:55:04. > :55:05.weekend, what I am supposed to get from the shops. To put trousers on,

:55:06. > :55:08.when visitors are coming around. Keep things simple! Absolutely,

:55:09. > :55:15.being reminded helps us to do things. A reminder on your Facebook

:55:16. > :55:20.profile Twitter feed, pops up, oh, it is Testicle Tuesday, I will check

:55:21. > :55:24.myself today, in the shower or the bat. It is really to raise

:55:25. > :55:27.awareness. I am not pushing it as a charity or looking to make money out

:55:28. > :55:33.of it, it is not my job. I thought it was my duty to fellow testicle

:55:34. > :55:36.owners out there to look after yourselves and make sure things are

:55:37. > :55:43.OK. If they are not, please see your doctor. What is the situation for

:55:44. > :55:47.you now? Is that it? I am in a period of uncertainty. I am waiting

:55:48. > :55:51.for the histology to come back from the tumour that was removed, and

:55:52. > :55:55.they will know exactly what kind of cells I had inside me, then plans

:55:56. > :55:59.and treatment. If I need chemotherapy, I will take it. The

:56:00. > :56:04.incidence of recurrence with chemotherapy drugs from 20% or 30%

:56:05. > :56:09.if you do nothing, down to 2% or 3%. It is a no-brainer for me. Because

:56:10. > :56:15.we are young men, they can afford to use strong chemotherapy to get the

:56:16. > :56:17.cells. It might be that they say we don't need to do anything further.

:56:18. > :56:22.We feel we have dealt with your problem, and that is fantastic. The

:56:23. > :56:25.hospital have been tremendous throughout this. Absolutely

:56:26. > :56:28.phenomenal. I cannot fault them one moment. My colleagues have really

:56:29. > :56:33.pulled through for me. It turns out it is not special to me, it is men

:56:34. > :56:42.with testicular cancer, it is how it gets treated. It is one of those

:56:43. > :56:46.things that is a bit taboo. Why? I think it is the same situation that

:56:47. > :56:49.breast cancer have a while ago, it was not talked about. Now it is OK

:56:50. > :56:53.to talk about breast cancer. I want to get to that point with testicular

:56:54. > :56:57.cancer. There is nothing to be ashamed of. It is part of your body.

:56:58. > :57:01.Things can go wrong with it, if they do, you need to get checked out and

:57:02. > :57:11.treated as soon as possible. Then you can be cured and live a happy,

:57:12. > :57:14.normal life. It sounds like the treatment was quite straightforward?

:57:15. > :57:17.Done in one day. I came in in the morning, had a pre-assessments can,

:57:18. > :57:23.spoke to the doctor, into surgery, and out of that evening. It is very

:57:24. > :57:27.quick, then the recovery as your body heals. Very simple. Good for

:57:28. > :57:33.you. It is absolutely great to hear your passion in terms of making a

:57:34. > :57:39.difference? That is what I think I can do from here on in. Spread that

:57:40. > :57:43.awareness, make people interested in their own bodies. It is not up to

:57:44. > :57:47.the hospital, your doctor, it is not up to your wife. As a bloke, it is

:57:48. > :57:50.up to you to look after your own body. Take that time to check the

:57:51. > :57:53.simple things that can be checked. It can be the difference between

:57:54. > :58:00.life and death. I think that is the message that I want to get out

:58:01. > :58:04.there. Thank you for talking to us. And thank you very much for your

:58:05. > :58:07.company today. Much more coming up on the BBC News Channel on the

:58:08. > :58:12.French elections, the French terror attack in Paris. Have a lovely

:58:13. > :58:40.weekend. I will see you soon. Goodbye.

:58:41. > :58:46.Hello. Good morning. The weather has been pretty quiet of late. That is

:58:47. > :58:50.not going to change very much as we head into the weekend. A lovely

:58:51. > :58:55.start of the day in Scarborough. A beautiful sunrise. It wasn't like

:58:56. > :58:56.that everywhere. Northern Scotland was very cloudy. There have been