28/04/2017

:00:00. > :00:11.Hello it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:12. > :00:17.A woman is under police guard in hospital, after being shot

:00:18. > :00:19.during an anti-terror operation on a residential street

:00:20. > :00:30.Metropolitan Police deputy assistant commissioner Neil Basu

:00:31. > :00:34.says six people have now been arrested.

:00:35. > :00:38.I wanted to reassure the public that this

:00:39. > :00:40.of terrorist activities are being matched

:00:41. > :00:42.by our action, the police and security services

:00:43. > :00:45.across the country and we are making arrests on a nearly daily basis.

:00:46. > :00:52.This is the scene live at New Scotland Yard where the Met police

:00:53. > :00:54.say they are hopeful they have contained the threat.

:00:55. > :00:59.The billion pound cancer drugs fund that was set up to give patients

:01:00. > :01:02.expensive treatments not available on the NHS could even have caused

:01:03. > :01:07.We will talk to a leading expert who looked into the fund and a mum

:01:08. > :01:18.Royal Marine Alexander Blackman, who was jailed

:01:19. > :01:21.Taliban fighter, has been released from prison.

:01:22. > :01:25.He received a life term in 2013 for murder,

:01:26. > :01:30.but his conviction was reduced to manslaughter.

:01:31. > :01:33.His wife spoke to this programme in March when she heard the news

:01:34. > :01:37.I spoke to him shortly afterwards and I think it took a little longer

:01:38. > :01:41.I think he had worked very hard to prepare himself

:01:42. > :01:44.for not such good news, so once it had finally dawned on us

:01:45. > :01:50.that we were going to be together soon, we were very happy.

:01:51. > :02:00.We'll bring you all the details in the next half hour.

:02:01. > :02:04.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:02:05. > :02:07.So much to talk about today, please get in touch,

:02:08. > :02:10.So much to talk about today, please get in touch.

:02:11. > :02:13.Porna Bell was married to Rob, a science journalist for three years

:02:14. > :02:18.before she discovered he was a secret heroin user.

:02:19. > :02:25.We have been speaking to her in her first television interview. The idea

:02:26. > :02:29.that the person I love most in the world, that I trusted most in the

:02:30. > :02:33.world would be using something like that not even periodically, but

:02:34. > :02:36.would be an addict was something absolutely unfathomable. I would

:02:37. > :02:41.never have made that connection if he hadn't have told me. You can hear

:02:42. > :02:44.that interview later on. Do get in touch

:02:45. > :02:50.on all the stories we're talking about this morning,

:02:51. > :02:53.use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged

:02:54. > :03:07.The UK's counter-terrorism unit say they're making arrests

:03:08. > :03:12.The unit's policing coordinator made the comments in the last half hour -

:03:13. > :03:14.saying six people have now been detained in connection

:03:15. > :03:16.with an anti-terror operation in Willesden, north west London,

:03:17. > :03:19.during which a woman was shot and injured by police.

:03:20. > :03:21.It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly

:03:22. > :03:23.attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament.

:03:24. > :03:25.Officers say the two incidents aren't connected.

:03:26. > :03:28.A residential street in Willesden, in north-west London.

:03:29. > :03:29.Several gunshots heard, yesterday evening.

:03:30. > :03:33.As armed police raided a terraced house.

:03:34. > :03:37.A woman in her 20s was shot by police.

:03:38. > :03:42.As darkness fell, a police presence remained.

:03:43. > :03:45.The woman who was shot was taken to hospital.

:03:46. > :03:51.She was in a serious but stable condition and is under police guard.

:03:52. > :03:55.A 16-year-old man and a woman aged 20 were arrested at the property.

:03:56. > :03:58.A 20-year-old man was arrested close by and a 43-year-old woman

:03:59. > :04:04.All four on suspicion of the commission, preparation

:04:05. > :04:13.They are in custody in a police station inside London.

:04:14. > :04:16.Police say this was an ongoing counterterrorism investigation.

:04:17. > :04:18.The house had been under observation, as had

:04:19. > :04:24.As the search of the house continued into the night,

:04:25. > :04:27.other searches related to this incident were also being carried out

:04:28. > :04:33.However, police say there is no connection between these arrests

:04:34. > :04:50.Our Correspondent, Sara Smith is at New Scotland Yard.

:04:51. > :04:56.What's the latest? What we've heard from police this morning is that

:04:57. > :05:01.this was an active terror plot that they believe they've boiled. This

:05:02. > :05:03.address in Willesden was under observation by counterterrorism

:05:04. > :05:09.officers and the intelligence they received meant that last night they

:05:10. > :05:13.sent armed officers in. They used CS gas on the premises and during the

:05:14. > :05:19.raid was when this woman in her 20s was injured. This morning, the

:05:20. > :05:23.Assistant Commissioner for the Met, the National coordinator for

:05:24. > :05:27.counterterror tried to reassure the counterterror tried to reassure the

:05:28. > :05:34.public that although terror activity might be on the rise, so is police

:05:35. > :05:38.activity in tackling that. He said that this woman was in a serious but

:05:39. > :05:40.stable condition in hospital and he also talked a bit more about the

:05:41. > :05:48.arrests made. Given the horrors in London of a few

:05:49. > :05:51.short weeks ago and may I say our thoughts are still with the victims

:05:52. > :05:55.and survivors of that horrific day, I wanted to reassure the public that

:05:56. > :05:59.this increased level of terrorist activity is being matched by our

:06:00. > :06:03.actions, the police and security services across the country. We are

:06:04. > :06:09.making arrests on a near daily basis and you saw some of that, yesterday.

:06:10. > :06:11.I also wanted to pay tribute to the bravery of my uniformed colleagues,

:06:12. > :06:19.doing that work to keep us all safe. Police say it was because of

:06:20. > :06:23.intelligence received which meant that they went in, warned last

:06:24. > :06:28.night. It is extremely rare for a woman to be shot by police in this

:06:29. > :06:31.country. People here with many years of experience can't remember the

:06:32. > :06:36.last time it happened. We are told she is in a serious but stable

:06:37. > :06:40.condition, still in hospital. She is yet to be arrested with six other

:06:41. > :06:43.arrests have been made in several addresses around the capital are

:06:44. > :06:47.being searched, today. Thank you very much.

:06:48. > :06:49.Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:06:50. > :06:53.The former Royal Marine Alexander Blackman -

:06:54. > :06:55.whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter

:06:56. > :06:57.in Afghanistan was quashed - has been released from prison.

:06:58. > :06:59.Sergeant Blackman - known as "Marine A" -

:07:00. > :07:01.during the case - had his conviction reduced to manslaughter

:07:02. > :07:10.He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence.

:07:11. > :07:13.A special fund set up to improve patient access to cancer drugs

:07:14. > :07:16.in England has been condemned as a "huge waste of money".

:07:17. > :07:20.The Cancer Drugs Fund, which ran from 2010

:07:21. > :07:23.until it was replaced last year, cost over ?1 billion.

:07:24. > :07:27.Our medical correspondent Fergus Walsh reports.

:07:28. > :07:30.The Cancer Drugs Fund was set up to pay for expensive medicines

:07:31. > :07:35.In part, it was a political response to repeated

:07:36. > :07:40.negative headlines about patients being denied treatment.

:07:41. > :07:44.Nearly 100,000 patients received drugs, but

:07:45. > :07:47.the study in the journal Annals of Oncology found just one in five

:07:48. > :07:49.treatments delivered a significant benefit,

:07:50. > :07:53.extending life by an average of three months.

:07:54. > :07:56.Researchers say it was an example of policy made

:07:57. > :08:07.The Cancer Drugs Fund was a major missed opportunity

:08:08. > :08:09.for the National Health Service and

:08:10. > :08:12.the cancer community to learn in the real world about the actual

:08:13. > :08:15.A great deal of money, over ?1 billion, was expended on this.

:08:16. > :08:18.And we didn't collect the data to look at individual cancer

:08:19. > :08:24.The study concludes many patients may have suffered

:08:25. > :08:29.But a leading breast cancer charity said the fund has had a totally

:08:30. > :08:31.transformational impact for many, offering precious extra time

:08:32. > :08:36.with loved ones for terminally ill patients.

:08:37. > :08:39.The fund was brought under the remit of the National Institute

:08:40. > :08:42.for Health and Care Excellence last year, so there is greater scrutiny

:08:43. > :08:53.And we'll be speaking to some of those affected by this story

:08:54. > :08:59.President Trump said there was a chance of what he called

:09:00. > :09:01.a "major, major conflict" with North Korea over its nuclear

:09:02. > :09:04.In a radio interview with the Reuters news agency,

:09:05. > :09:07.Mr Trump said he would prefer a diplomatic outcome to persuade

:09:08. > :09:16.But he said that would be very difficult to achieve.

:09:17. > :09:22.Well, there's a chance that we could have a major,

:09:23. > :09:28.a major, major conflict with North Korea, absolutely.

:09:29. > :09:31.The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a profit of ?259 million

:09:32. > :09:32.in the first three months of the year.

:09:33. > :09:35.This compares to a loss of almost a billion pounds

:09:36. > :09:40.The bank is 72%-owned by the Government.

:09:41. > :09:43.It hasn't made a full-year profit in nine years,

:09:44. > :09:45.as it battles restructuring costs and fines resulting from years

:09:46. > :09:51.of over-expansion before the financial crisis.

:09:52. > :09:54.The car maker, Vauxhall, showed a Wreckless disregard for safetyW

:09:55. > :09:56.The car maker, Vauxhall, showed a wreckless disregard for safetyW

:09:57. > :10:00.over the way it handled a series of fires on its Zafira B

:10:01. > :10:03.A report by the Transport Select Committee found

:10:04. > :10:06.that the company was too slow to act, allowing people to drive

:10:07. > :10:10.The company says safety is its top priority and it has

:10:11. > :10:17.The general election will be a tipping point for education,

:10:18. > :10:20.according to headteachers who warn the stability of the whole

:10:21. > :10:23.A survey by the National Assocation of Headteachers found that nearly

:10:24. > :10:25.three-quarters of heads say their budget will be

:10:26. > :10:32.It comes as economists predict it would cost ?2 billion to freeze

:10:33. > :10:34.school funding in real terms over the next five years.

:10:35. > :10:46.Our Education Correspondent Marc Ashdown reports.

:10:47. > :10:48.A 24-hour strike is underway on Arriva Rail North,

:10:49. > :10:50.as part of an ongoing dispute over the role of guards.

:10:51. > :10:53.It's the third time that members of the Rail,

:10:54. > :10:55.Maritime and Transport Union have walked out in a row over

:10:56. > :10:57.staffing for new trains, which are due to come

:10:58. > :11:00.Arriva Rail North said it was disappointing

:11:01. > :11:08.that the union was unwilling to change its position during talks.

:11:09. > :11:10.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:11:11. > :11:20.Thank you very much. Alexander Blackman, marine, released A

:11:21. > :11:24.overnight having his murder conviction overturned to

:11:25. > :11:28.manslaughter. We talk will to someone who was with him in prison

:11:29. > :11:34.as he left, just after midnight last night. The man who managed the

:11:35. > :11:36.campaign to get him released, John Davis, he will join us later. Get in

:11:37. > :11:37.touch. And if you text, you will be charged

:11:38. > :11:50.at the standard network rate. A big game in the Premier League

:11:51. > :11:55.last night, but not exactly a classic? Exactly. Good morning. Like

:11:56. > :11:59.me, if you watched the Manchester derby last night, you will know it

:12:00. > :12:03.was a frenetic encounter, end to end play with all the passion you would

:12:04. > :12:09.expect, perhaps too much passion at times but the DRS sides were lacking

:12:10. > :12:11.in composure and quality. It's best described as attritional and it

:12:12. > :12:15.ended goalless at the Etihad Stadium, leaving City in the

:12:16. > :12:18.all-important final Champions League qualification spot but the main

:12:19. > :12:23.talking point was a straight red card for United midfielder Marouane

:12:24. > :12:27.Fellaini who was sent off for that headbutt on City striker Sergio

:12:28. > :12:32.Aguero. No hesitation from Martin Atkinson, the referee. A game of few

:12:33. > :12:35.chances. At the line by poor finishing Sergio Aguero, could have

:12:36. > :12:40.taken it at the death but couldn't control the finish. The hunt for the

:12:41. > :12:43.top four goes on for United. Jose Mourinho, their manager, after the

:12:44. > :12:50.game, explained what Fellini had made of his red card.

:12:51. > :13:02.We think it is probably not a red card. Cabrera was intelligent, the

:13:03. > :13:09.way he reacted. But he has to control. Five games left for City

:13:10. > :13:12.and United and City hold on to fourth spot, one point ahead of

:13:13. > :13:15.their local rivals in the Premier League. Interestingly, they both

:13:16. > :13:18.have the chance to leapfrog third placed Liverpool that they win all

:13:19. > :13:23.their remaining matches but still a lot to play for as we approach this

:13:24. > :13:27.final month of the season. A lot of excitement around a big boxing match

:13:28. > :13:34.tomorrow, Anthony Joshua in action. What a fight in the offing in London

:13:35. > :13:38.tomorrow night, 90,000 fans will pour into the stadium taking on a

:13:39. > :13:46.man who was world champion for over a decade in Wladimir Klitschko. So

:13:47. > :13:51.many questions and factors in an intriguing contest. At 41 years old,

:13:52. > :13:55.does Wladimir Klitschko have what it takes to take on Joshua? It is

:13:56. > :14:00.Joshua's 90th professional fight, does he have the experience to take

:14:01. > :14:03.a beat man -- to beat a man that reigned supreme for so long in the

:14:04. > :14:06.heavyweight division. Answers tomorrow night. Squaring up after

:14:07. > :14:09.their public work-out and press conference yesterday. The build-up

:14:10. > :14:14.has been pretty cordial between the two of them, no real predictions

:14:15. > :14:17.from either although Wladimir Klitschko has made one can he is

:14:18. > :14:25.keeping his memory cards close to his chest, take a look. On this USB

:14:26. > :14:32.stick I recorded a video last week. And the outcome of the fight. List

:14:33. > :14:33.stick is going to be integrated in my robe, which I'm going to wear

:14:34. > :14:47.this Saturday night. Sealed. Do not ask me, after the fight, what

:14:48. > :14:51.is on this stick. I would be asking! The only person who will find out is

:14:52. > :14:55.the one who grabs that robe at an auction after the fight. Wladimir

:14:56. > :14:59.Klitschko says it is up to them if they want to reveal what the

:15:00. > :15:02.contents of the video are. It is tough. You will have much more on it

:15:03. > :15:06.in the programme throughout the morning but it will be a very tough

:15:07. > :15:11.one. Interesting to see if Anthony Joshua can do it. I want to ask,

:15:12. > :15:12.that we are not allowed to ask! He seemed pretty serious, I wouldn't

:15:13. > :15:17.ask him! A special fund for cancer drugs set

:15:18. > :15:20.up to help give patients access to treatment not available

:15:21. > :15:22.on the NHS has been criticised The NHS Cancer Drugs Fund

:15:23. > :15:26.ran from 2010 to 2016, It was set-up to give quicker access

:15:27. > :15:35.to expensive drugs that hadn't yet been recommended by Nice -

:15:36. > :15:37.the body in charge of Among the drugs it's approved

:15:38. > :15:42.are Perjeta and Kadcyla for women with advanced

:15:43. > :15:45.breast cancer, which we've covered

:15:46. > :15:47.before on the programme. We'll be hearing shortly from one

:15:48. > :15:50.patient who benefitted from the fund and says it made a huge difference

:15:51. > :15:52.to her life. We'll also be joined by one

:15:53. > :15:55.of the report's authors, who have described the programme as "a huge

:15:56. > :15:58.waste of money" and a But what else could

:15:59. > :16:02.?1.27 billion pay Well, it could fund 10,000 nurses,

:16:03. > :16:10.or 2,500 hospital consultants. It could also fund a one-off pay

:16:11. > :16:21.rise for every member of NHS The Conservatives, who set up

:16:22. > :16:26.the fund, said it gave patients Let's speak now to Bonnie Fox,

:16:27. > :16:30.who has incurable cancer and takes one of the drugs approved

:16:31. > :16:32.by the Cancer Drugs Fund. Also here, Professor Richard

:16:33. > :16:34.Sullivan, one of the authors of the report from the Institute

:16:35. > :16:37.of Cancer Policy at And Mia Rosenblatt, assistant

:16:38. > :16:51.director of policy and campaigns Thank you all very much for coming

:16:52. > :17:04.in. Bonnie, Metellus first of all what you have been given as a result

:17:05. > :17:09.the fund. I have been on herceptin and perjeta combined. I have been

:17:10. > :17:15.able to carry on my life relatively normally since I was diagnosed in

:17:16. > :17:20.2015. From that diagnosis I am functioning fairly normally. I have

:17:21. > :17:24.returned to work. I have eight to macro year old son and can perform

:17:25. > :17:31.my role as a busy month, a wife and a daughter. These drugs have enabled

:17:32. > :17:36.me to do that. The low side effects of the drugs mean I have not

:17:37. > :17:41.required any hospitalisation and do not have any side effects from them

:17:42. > :17:46.I can carry on relatively normally. Without the fund he would not have

:17:47. > :18:03.had those drugs? I would not have had perjeta. The to macro drugs

:18:04. > :18:07.combined have meant I am still alive. You have been looking into

:18:08. > :18:18.what the fans were spending money on and the impact. You are not at all

:18:19. > :18:27.convinced. -- the fund was spending money on. There is this clinically

:18:28. > :18:32.meaningful benefit. There is nothing wrong with the CDF in principle for

:18:33. > :18:41.particularly expensive medicines which had not yet had Nice approval.

:18:42. > :18:44.We could not follow what the outcomes. Many patients do as we

:18:45. > :18:48.showed from the study, did not do well on those particular drugs but

:18:49. > :18:52.we did not learn about that. What we are doing is pouring more and more

:18:53. > :18:57.money into giving patients drugs that we really were not learning

:18:58. > :19:03.from. I guess, at the end of the day, the general point with patient

:19:04. > :19:07.access schemes of fairness. In the future thinking of opening up beyond

:19:08. > :19:12.medicines to include surgery and radiotherapy. It is about making

:19:13. > :19:18.sure clinically meaningful drugs like this are used in the NHS. Was

:19:19. > :19:24.it a failure of the people running it? It was a failure of looking

:19:25. > :19:29.properly at the outcomes of the drugs being prescribed. That is

:19:30. > :19:37.basic, why did not happen? That is the issue, finding out why it did

:19:38. > :19:42.happen. Now the CDF has been incorporated into the Nice process.

:19:43. > :19:47.You need to make sure you follow up patients very closely to see those

:19:48. > :19:50.who really benefit and to put more money into those. For those drugs

:19:51. > :19:54.which are not showing any benefit, to stop funding their eyes and put

:19:55. > :20:01.it into a different area. It is about research. The fund has gone.

:20:02. > :20:04.Does that mean you will continue to get the treatment you have been

:20:05. > :20:12.having? I will continue with the treatment. My next drug is up for

:20:13. > :20:16.review. The initial decision is that it will not be funded. We're working

:20:17. > :20:21.really hard to try to reverse that decision. The problem with this

:20:22. > :20:25.report which has been released, it is generalising and making a

:20:26. > :20:29.sweeping statement that the CDF has not been working for some it is not

:20:30. > :20:32.looking at those individual drugs which are working. It is insulting

:20:33. > :20:39.for those of us who are doing so well on it. There are many of us who

:20:40. > :20:45.are doing well on them. It is damaging to our campaign to try to

:20:46. > :20:50.save the drugs and make sure they are funded on the NHS. We do not

:20:51. > :20:53.know if future patients will be able to get perjeta. If you are on the

:20:54. > :20:59.treatment you will continue to get it that we do not know what will

:21:00. > :21:04.happen in the future. The fund was set up for a short amount of time

:21:05. > :21:10.very deliberate lead to try to get drugs through which were struggling

:21:11. > :21:16.to get through Nice like perjeta. Why were they struggling? It is part

:21:17. > :21:20.of the Nice process. It takes into account different factors and comes

:21:21. > :21:25.up with a yes, or a no, as to whether the drugs were available.

:21:26. > :21:30.The drugs are available to people with incurable cancer. In the case

:21:31. > :21:37.of perjeta, it is a combination drug. Whatever the manufacturer

:21:38. > :21:41.says, it is not cost-effective. That shows there is something not quite

:21:42. > :21:47.nice in the system. The process was going to be looked at more broadly.

:21:48. > :21:55.The wider reform did not come. The end of the life of the cancer drug

:21:56. > :21:59.fund came. Now it has gone back into Nice and does not exist in the same

:22:00. > :22:03.way. What we really need to look at is how we can more broadly reform

:22:04. > :22:07.the system so we are not costing the NHS more money but we're getting

:22:08. > :22:10.more drugs through. There is an opportunity through the agreement

:22:11. > :22:16.that pharmaceutical companies make with the Department of Health called

:22:17. > :22:20.the Pharmaceutical Pricing Agreement, is where we could get

:22:21. > :22:23.drugs available with no extra cost. That will be renegotiated in the

:22:24. > :22:28.next year and that is where we should be focusing. It is a horrible

:22:29. > :22:33.debate when it centres on, what price do put on life? Those are the

:22:34. > :22:38.fundamentals that get looked at. We are all in agreement. We want drugs

:22:39. > :22:44.which benefit all technologies to get into the NHS. This is about

:22:45. > :22:49.accommodation and solidarity. Governments that are prepared to pay

:22:50. > :22:54.fair prices for the wealth of the country, for medicines and other

:22:55. > :22:58.technologies. You need companies setting their prices as well. Part

:22:59. > :23:04.of this is negotiations around tax relief and negotiations in this

:23:05. > :23:10.country around the sort of prices they will offer. We are trying to

:23:11. > :23:14.get new drugs through and new technologies through for patients

:23:15. > :23:18.that will drive improvements in outcomes and be of really good value

:23:19. > :23:23.to society as a whole. We are all on the same page. At the beginning we

:23:24. > :23:28.outlined what the money going into the fund could have paid for in

:23:29. > :23:35.terms of staff within the NHS. That does not work right. It comes back

:23:36. > :23:39.to the point of how you trade of peoples lives. That is not fair. You

:23:40. > :23:44.cannot say we could have spent the money on this. The money was spent.

:23:45. > :23:48.Some patients benefited fantastically but a lot did not. We

:23:49. > :23:52.have to learn from where we made mistakes with that particular access

:23:53. > :23:58.scheme and the way it was run and make sure that does not happen the

:23:59. > :24:03.future. When you had your criticisms of the fund, it was that money could

:24:04. > :24:07.be better spent. It is not that harm was done to anyone. It is the way we

:24:08. > :24:10.watched and reviewed patients who were treated with the drugs will do

:24:11. > :24:14.we could have learned much earlier which drugs are working and which

:24:15. > :24:19.were not. That was the issue at the end of the day. We have to properly

:24:20. > :24:25.audit these access schemes. Patients expect that as well, to learn from

:24:26. > :24:28.our clinical experience. When you talked about campaigning for drugs,

:24:29. > :24:34.you are in a situation where you have terminal cancer and you are

:24:35. > :24:39.fighting to try to get extra life, better quality of life. How does it

:24:40. > :24:46.feel to be fighting at the same time as living with what he while living

:24:47. > :24:52.with? It is fairly exhausting. It is a shame because I feel so well at

:24:53. > :24:58.the moment. A life with secondary breast cancer is full of anxiety and

:24:59. > :25:02.uncertainty. It is very stressful. Having the additional worry of, will

:25:03. > :25:08.my next drug be in place? It is a huge worry. I want to enjoy my life.

:25:09. > :25:10.I am feeling so well. I do not want to worry, it is the next drug there

:25:11. > :25:18.for me? Thank you for coming in. We've had this statement from

:25:19. > :25:40.the Conservative Party, it says: That statement from the

:25:41. > :25:43.Conservatives. We'll hear from a successful

:25:44. > :25:46.journalist who found out her husband was a heroin addict,

:25:47. > :25:49.she'd had no idea for three years. Poorna Bell is now opening up

:25:50. > :25:53.about what happened to her husband Rob, and is sharing her story

:25:54. > :25:57.with this programme. After serving more than three years

:25:58. > :26:00.into a seven-year prison sentence, the Royal Marine,

:26:01. > :26:05.Sergeant Alexander Blackman, His life term sentence for murder

:26:06. > :26:10.for shooting dead a wounded Taliban fighter had been

:26:11. > :26:17.reduced to manslaughter. It followed a campaign

:26:18. > :26:19.led by his wife, Claire Blackman. In an exclusive interview

:26:20. > :26:22.in September 2015, Claire told us about the moment her husband

:26:23. > :26:24.was arrested. The first we knew was the knock

:26:25. > :26:27.on the door, for him to be arrested. It was a quiet weekend morning,

:26:28. > :26:37.and there was a knock on the door. I opened the door and invited

:26:38. > :26:42.the individuals in, And as they came in my husband came

:26:43. > :26:48.downstairs and they read out the charge of breaches of the Geneva

:26:49. > :26:57.Convention, at that stage. And did you know

:26:58. > :26:59.what that meant, then? When did it become clear

:27:00. > :27:05.that he was going to be I think as the investigation

:27:06. > :27:10.continued, the charge changed a week It was something, as I said,

:27:11. > :27:26.it was totally out of the blue. Last month, Court Martial Appeal

:27:27. > :27:30.judges reduced his sentence after being told Sergeant Blackman

:27:31. > :27:34.had a recognised mental illness at the time of the killing

:27:35. > :27:41.in September 2011. The judge's decision meant he would

:27:42. > :27:47.be released in a matter of weeks. Claire Blackman was in court

:27:48. > :27:50.and spoke to her husband via video I think it took a little longer

:27:51. > :27:54.for the realisation to hit. I think he'd worked very

:27:55. > :27:56.hard to prepare himself for not such good news,

:27:57. > :27:59.so once it had finally dawned on us that we were going to be together

:28:00. > :28:03.soon, we were very happy. And is it true, via video

:28:04. > :28:05.link, he managed to get The court staff have been

:28:06. > :28:14.absolutely fantastic. We've been a regular appearance

:28:15. > :28:18.in Court 4 and the staff have got to know us and look

:28:19. > :28:20.after us very well. And they allow us at the end

:28:21. > :28:23.of the video link to have a quick I did warn him that the court had

:28:24. > :28:29.not yet cleared, but yes, The campaign to release

:28:30. > :28:41.Sergeant Blackman was managed He was at Erlestoke Prison

:28:42. > :28:52.in the early hours of this We can speak to him now, live from

:28:53. > :28:56.Bristol. Thank you for joining us. What was the moment like? Good

:28:57. > :29:00.morning. It was absolutely fantastic. I was not actually

:29:01. > :29:11.outside the prison, I was with care when the police brought to Clare the

:29:12. > :29:17.secret location they are staying at the moment. It was surreal to see

:29:18. > :29:21.them both relaxed. It was an amazing moment for what has been a very long

:29:22. > :29:27.three and a half years for everyone involved. It made it all worthwhile,

:29:28. > :29:35.without a shadow of a doubt. What did he say? He did not say a zero,

:29:36. > :29:42.to be fair. This is probably about half past to this morning. He just

:29:43. > :29:47.said it is very surreal really. He was commenting on the car journey

:29:48. > :29:52.and the fact he has not been in a car for a few years will do that in

:29:53. > :29:58.itself was very strange. It will take a bit of time to transition

:29:59. > :30:04.back into normality for him. Were they emotional? Of course they were.

:30:05. > :30:09.It has been the end to a very horrific period for them. I believe

:30:10. > :30:15.there will be an exclusive interview by the Daily Mail which will come

:30:16. > :30:17.out tomorrow, detailing all of this. Why did it all happen in the early

:30:18. > :30:30.hours of the morning? It was to miss the unwanted media.

:30:31. > :30:33.It's very easy for us from a campaign perspective to understand

:30:34. > :30:36.how high profile this has been, how the media have been outside the

:30:37. > :30:43.courts outside Parliament, outside Birmingham. But Al hasn't been

:30:44. > :30:49.subjected to any of this. To try and keep him away from a lot of that at

:30:50. > :30:54.this early stage, for us, for his wife and himself, it was very

:30:55. > :30:58.important. How and why did you get involved? More than anything else,

:30:59. > :31:02.obviously, he is a fellow Royal Marine. Nobody else was doing

:31:03. > :31:06.anything. That's what really bugged me. It's not what we are about as

:31:07. > :31:11.Royal Marines, as service men. We look at each other. The more and

:31:12. > :31:15.more we looked into the gates, the more holes we could find in the

:31:16. > :31:23.court-martial -- looked into the case, the more. We reached just over

:31:24. > :31:27.100,000 signatures, which secured the Parliamentary debate which got

:31:28. > :31:34.an MP involved and Frederick Forsyth from the Daily Mail and the

:31:35. > :31:38.fantastic legal team. It's been an incredible journey and it couldn't

:31:39. > :31:41.have been done with -- without the amazing public support and the will

:31:42. > :31:46.Marine 's family backing support. It's been amazing, the whole thing

:31:47. > :31:49.has been brilliant. As you say, it has unfolded over a long time and

:31:50. > :31:54.those on the outside have been well aware of what's been going on and

:31:55. > :32:01.experiencing it. He is going to face that onslaught. What will they do,

:32:02. > :32:08.now? Now it will be a bit of a transition period. They will have a

:32:09. > :32:14.good few weeks to themselves. Decide what he wants to do next. In the

:32:15. > :32:18.coming weeks, coming months. It must be such a strange feeling being able

:32:19. > :32:21.to plan your future whereas a month ago he thought he would have another

:32:22. > :32:27.four and a half to five and a half years serving. It will take a bit of

:32:28. > :32:28.time to decide what his next steps are, really. Thank you for joining

:32:29. > :32:32.us. My pleasure. As the UK's counter-terrorism unit

:32:33. > :32:35.say they're making arrests on a "near daily" basis,

:32:36. > :32:47.we'll be live at New Scotland Yard One of the biggest boxing fights on

:32:48. > :32:52.British soil as Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko meet in the ring.

:32:53. > :32:54.But who will be crowned heavyweight world champion? We will speak to a

:32:55. > :33:01.boxer who sparred with both fighters.

:33:02. > :33:04.When I was like 17, 18, it was about being cool,

:33:05. > :33:09.And now I'm fighting Wlad, everything that I've done over

:33:10. > :33:11.the last three years, it's built me up to now.

:33:12. > :33:14.I found out what I need to do, what works, what don't work.

:33:15. > :33:24.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:33:25. > :33:28.The UK's counter-terrorism unit say they're making arrests

:33:29. > :33:33.The unit's policing coordinator made the comments in the last hour -

:33:34. > :33:37.saying six people have now been detained in connection

:33:38. > :33:39.with an anti-terror operation in Willesden, north-west

:33:40. > :33:42.London, during which a woman was shot and injured by police.

:33:43. > :33:44.It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly

:33:45. > :33:46.attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament.

:33:47. > :33:54.Officers say the two incidents aren't connected.

:33:55. > :33:59.We will be live at Scotland Yard, soon.

:34:00. > :34:03.Given the horrors in London of a few short weeks ago and may I say our

:34:04. > :34:06.thoughts are still with the victims and survivors of that horrific day,

:34:07. > :34:08.I wanted to reassure the public that this increased level

:34:09. > :34:10.of terrorist activity is being matched by our

:34:11. > :34:14.actions, the police and security services across the country.

:34:15. > :34:16.We are making arrests on a near daily basis

:34:17. > :34:18.and you saw some of that, yesterday.

:34:19. > :34:20.I also wanted to pay tribute to the bravery

:34:21. > :34:30.of my uniformed colleagues, doing that work to keep us all safe.

:34:31. > :34:33.We will be back at Scotland Yard in a moment.

:34:34. > :34:36.A fund set up to improve patient access to cancer drugs in England

:34:37. > :34:38.has been condemned by researchers as a "huge waste of money".

:34:39. > :34:41.The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010 until last year and cost

:34:42. > :34:44.nearly ?1.3 billion, but a new study by King's College

:34:45. > :34:46.London claims most of the drugs failed to show clinical benefit,

:34:47. > :34:49.and many patients may have suffered unnecessary side effects.

:34:50. > :34:51.However, one leading breast cancer charity said the fund had

:34:52. > :34:58.The former Royal Marine Alexander Blackman,

:34:59. > :35:00.whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter in

:35:01. > :35:07.Afghanistan was quashed, has been released from prison.

:35:08. > :35:08.Sergeant Blackman, known as "Marine A"

:35:09. > :35:11.during the case, had his conviction reduced to manslaughter

:35:12. > :35:16.He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence.

:35:17. > :35:19.The car maker Vauxhall showed a "reckless disregard for safety"

:35:20. > :35:22.over the way it handled a series of fires on its Zafira B

:35:23. > :35:27.A report by the Transport Select Committee found

:35:28. > :35:30.that the company was too slow to act, allowing people to drive

:35:31. > :35:33.The company says safety is its top priority and it has

:35:34. > :35:45.When they did act and said they'd put things right, cars were still

:35:46. > :35:52.And even at that point, they didn't recall the cars fully.

:35:53. > :35:54.And this is totally unacceptable and is putting people's

:35:55. > :36:07.Within the past few minutes, the office for National to statistics

:36:08. > :36:13.has released the latest GDP figures -- office for National statistics.

:36:14. > :36:18.The economy grew by 0.4% in the first quarter of this year.

:36:19. > :36:22.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.

:36:23. > :36:32.It was all about the race for fourth Champions League spot

:36:33. > :36:35.last night in the Manchester derby but the match didn't

:36:36. > :36:40.A moment of madness was the main talking point,

:36:41. > :36:42.United's Marouane Fellaini was sent off after headbutting City

:36:43. > :36:46.That happened 14 seconds after he'd been booked for another foul

:36:47. > :36:49.The goalless draw meant City and United stay fourth

:36:50. > :36:52.Former Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard is to take charge

:36:53. > :36:55.of the club's under 18's side from next season.

:36:56. > :36:56.Gerrard returned to Liverpool's academy in February

:36:57. > :37:01.Anthony Joshua says he won't be affected

:37:02. > :37:03.by Wladimir Klitschko's mind games ahead of their heavyweight title

:37:04. > :37:09.Klitchscko says he's made a video prediction but won't reveal it.

:37:10. > :37:12.Joshua says "he's heard it all before."

:37:13. > :37:15.And today is the first day of cycling's Tour De Yorkshire.

:37:16. > :37:17.The first stage goes from Bridlington to Scarborough.

:37:18. > :37:19.Thomas Voeckler is the men's defending champion while Britain's

:37:20. > :37:31.Lizzie Deignan is hoping for victory in the women's race.

:37:32. > :37:38.Something on the Joshua fight just after 10am as well. Do you think he

:37:39. > :37:40.is predicting he is going to lose? I doubt it very much! We will talk a

:37:41. > :37:42.bit more about that fight, later. Let's get more on our top story,

:37:43. > :37:45.and police say they've foiled an active terrorist plot

:37:46. > :37:48.after carrying out an armed raid A female suspect was shot

:37:49. > :37:50.during the operation and is in a serious but stable

:37:51. > :37:53.condition in hospital. Our correspondent Sara Smith

:37:54. > :38:08.is at the Metropolitan Police What is the latest? Within the last

:38:09. > :38:13.hour, police confirmed they believe they have foiled an active terror

:38:14. > :38:18.plot, planned for UK soil. Anti-terrorist officers had this

:38:19. > :38:20.address in Willesden in north London under surveillance and Jude to

:38:21. > :38:25.intelligence they received, they tell us, they went in, armed last

:38:26. > :38:30.night, first of all firing CS gas into the premises. It was during

:38:31. > :38:35.this raid that this woman in her 20s was shot and injured and she remains

:38:36. > :38:42.in hospital in a serious but stable condition. The National coordinator

:38:43. > :38:45.for counterterror, said today that while terror activities may be on

:38:46. > :38:50.the rise, police activity was also going up to deal with it.

:38:51. > :39:00.In Whitehall, a 27-year-old man was arrested. They stopped and searched

:39:01. > :39:04.him as part of an ongoing counterterrorism investigation. He

:39:05. > :39:08.remains in custody, having been arrested for terrorism act offences

:39:09. > :39:11.and possession of offensive weapons. There are two ongoing searches of

:39:12. > :39:19.addresses in London as part of that investigation. In our second and

:39:20. > :39:22.unrelated investigation, last night at approximately 7pm, our highly

:39:23. > :39:27.trained firearms officers carried out a specialist entry into an

:39:28. > :39:31.address in Harlesden Road. We have that under observation as part of a

:39:32. > :39:35.current counterterrorism investigation. The armed entry was

:39:36. > :39:38.necessary due to the nature of the intelligence we were dealing with

:39:39. > :39:44.and involved armed officers firing CS gas into the address. During the

:39:45. > :39:52.course of that operation, one of the subjects, a woman, was shot by

:39:53. > :39:55.police. She remains in hospital. I can say her condition is serious but

:39:56. > :39:58.it is stable. Because of her condition, she has not yet been

:39:59. > :40:06.arrested and we are monitoring her condition closely. As is routine in

:40:07. > :40:09.these situations, we have informed the Independent Police Complaints

:40:10. > :40:13.Commission. In total, in that second operation, six people have now been

:40:14. > :40:17.arrested in connection with the investigation, five at or near the

:40:18. > :40:22.address in North London and one in Kent. The two further arrests were

:40:23. > :40:28.made when a man and a woman, both aged 28, returned to the address

:40:29. > :40:31.later tonight last night. There are search is ongoing at three London

:40:32. > :40:35.addresses, including Harlesden Road as part of that investigation. --

:40:36. > :40:38.returned to the address later that night. Due to the arrests made

:40:39. > :40:44.yesterday, in both cases I believe we have contained the threats they

:40:45. > :40:48.have posed. With the attack in Westminster on the 22nd of March so

:40:49. > :40:51.fresh in people's minds, I would like to reassure everyone that

:40:52. > :40:54.across the country, officers are working around the clock to identify

:40:55. > :40:58.those people who intend to commit acts of terror.

:40:59. > :41:03.To recap, six arrests in all, in connection with last night's raid,

:41:04. > :41:08.three of them men, three of them women. All still in custody. The

:41:09. > :41:12.woman who was shot is in hospital in a serious but stable condition and

:41:13. > :41:17.is under arrest. It is extremely rare for a woman to be shot by

:41:18. > :41:22.police in this country. In fact, nobody here can remember the last

:41:23. > :41:24.time it happened. Searches are ongoing and three London addresses

:41:25. > :41:27.in connection with last night's raid and police say they believe they

:41:28. > :41:32.have contained the threat they posed. Following the arrest in

:41:33. > :41:38.Westminster yesterday where a man was arrested not far from here, two

:41:39. > :41:42.addresses in London are also being searched. The Deputy Assistant

:41:43. > :41:47.Commissioner Neil Basu, who we just heard from, he described it as being

:41:48. > :41:51.an extraordinary day in London. He also thanked the general public and

:41:52. > :41:54.said that with the best will in the world from police, it was

:41:55. > :41:55.communities and people getting in touch that would help him fight

:41:56. > :41:59.terrorism. Thank you. Amid the noise, news and occasional

:42:00. > :42:01.name-calling surrounding the General Election,

:42:02. > :42:03.you might not have noticed that next week, for many of us,

:42:04. > :42:06.there's a local one too. All the council areas

:42:07. > :42:09.in Scotland and Wales, and many counties across England

:42:10. > :42:14.are up for grabs. Not only that but in six areas,

:42:15. > :42:16.Greater Manchester, Liverpool, Tees Valley, Cambridgeshire

:42:17. > :42:19.and Peterborough, West of England and the West Midlands,

:42:20. > :42:23.for the first time, they'll be That's a Mayor that

:42:24. > :42:28.represents an area comprising a number of councils,

:42:29. > :42:30.a bit like in London. Let's speak to some of our

:42:31. > :42:32.political correspondents In Scotland, we've got Brian Taylor,

:42:33. > :42:38.in Wales, Tomos Morgan and Nina Warhurst is in

:42:39. > :42:40.the North West of England, where they're voting for two

:42:41. > :42:49.of the Metro mayors. Brian, tell us about the picture in

:42:50. > :42:55.Scotland. These elections matter in themselves, 1200 councillors in all

:42:56. > :42:58.32 Scottish local authorities, they run the schools, the social work,

:42:59. > :43:02.they take when the bin -- take away the bins and salt the roads. They

:43:03. > :43:06.are significant themselves but completely subsumed within the UK

:43:07. > :43:09.general election. They will be looking for pointers from the

:43:10. > :43:14.Scottish local elections as to how things might be at the UK general

:43:15. > :43:17.election in Scotland. 2001, last time these councils were contested

:43:18. > :43:27.and the SNP were narrowly in the lead both in terms of voting share

:43:28. > :43:29.and in councillors. Labour actually ended up, because of the

:43:30. > :43:32.proportional voting system, you have to haggle as to who runs the

:43:33. > :43:34.councils, Labour actually ended up in sole control of more councils

:43:35. > :43:37.than the SNP. Will that be repeated now? Since then, the SNP have surged

:43:38. > :43:40.in the UK general election and Hollywood elections and there has

:43:41. > :43:44.now been a sign of a revival of the Tories. The Tories are keen to

:43:45. > :43:49.supplant labour as the second party. One big one to look out for would-be

:43:50. > :43:53.the great city of Glasgow, a Labour stronghold since everyone remembers

:43:54. > :43:56.but the SNP took seats there from both Westminster and Holyrood. Could

:43:57. > :44:02.they do that again at the Council bubble? Another thing to watch, the

:44:03. > :44:06.individual wards will give the individual candidates pointers as to

:44:07. > :44:10.the way things are shifting. The trend of voting in Scotland. That

:44:11. > :44:15.will be translated into endeavours and efforts for the UK general

:44:16. > :44:17.election itself. I stress that these elections matter in themselves. I

:44:18. > :44:30.hand over to my colleague in Wales. 22 local elections in Wales. 1200

:44:31. > :44:33.seats and over 3400 and dates. The First Minister said when Theresa May

:44:34. > :44:36.announced the general election, that would have an impact on the local

:44:37. > :44:44.elections across the UK. Labour has always been strong in

:44:45. > :44:48.Wales, they hold a number of the councils across Wales. In a way,

:44:49. > :44:53.they have the most to lose. I will run some of the key battle grounds

:44:54. > :44:55.through with you, Cardiff, the capital, by far the biggest local

:44:56. > :45:01.authority. Rabies control after taking it from the Lib Dem Plaid

:45:02. > :45:04.Cymru coalition -- Labour is in control after taking. Infighting in

:45:05. > :45:08.labour in the last few years, they have had a change of leadership so

:45:09. > :45:11.they will be under a three pronged attack from Plaid Cymru from the

:45:12. > :45:15.west of Cardiff, the Tories in the north and the Lib Dems in the

:45:16. > :45:16.central. They will battle to keep hold of this biggest council across

:45:17. > :45:34.Wales. Ten of the councillors quit the

:45:35. > :45:39.party in 2015. They'll be back in to take it back as the Tories worry

:45:40. > :45:51.battling to make some gains. Another key area for them. In the West, a

:45:52. > :45:55.classic bike between Plaid Cymru and Labour put Labour were in control in

:45:56. > :46:03.the last election but Labour will be trying to make some ground. That is

:46:04. > :46:10.the situation in Wales. Now to my colleague in the North West of

:46:11. > :46:17.England. The big two votes are the election of the Metro Mayor. The

:46:18. > :46:21.Liverpool city region, plus Merseyside and a borough of Holton

:46:22. > :46:26.in Cheshire. They will elect mayors for the first time was that this is

:46:27. > :46:30.history in the making. The powers that are being handed down from

:46:31. > :46:36.Westminster are not significant. The mayor and the leader of the boroughs

:46:37. > :46:39.will take control of transport, housing, strategic planning. In

:46:40. > :46:44.greater Manchester the Mayor will become the head of the police

:46:45. > :46:47.service, the PCC, as well as becoming head of the Fire And Rescue

:46:48. > :46:54.Services. When you go and speak to people, are they are where it is

:46:55. > :46:58.happening? Not really. There is lots of confusion. People get it confused

:46:59. > :47:01.with the guy with the chain. When you explain it will be like Boris

:47:02. > :47:07.Johnson used to beat McKenna Livingstone used to be, there is a

:47:08. > :47:15.bit of understanding but there is concern that turnout will be low for

:47:16. > :47:19.these elections. It is on a knife edge. It slips between the

:47:20. > :47:24.Conservatives and the Labour Party. It has marginal Labour control at

:47:25. > :47:28.the moment. Within Lancashire there are five marginal constituencies for

:47:29. > :47:31.the general election. That is often seen as a bellwether area and could

:47:32. > :47:40.be seen as a prediction of how the general election will go. Thank you

:47:41. > :47:44.all very much. Listening in, Tony Travers, from the London School of

:47:45. > :47:48.economic and political science. Let's talk about turnout in the

:47:49. > :47:54.local elections. So many elections at the moment. We have been

:47:55. > :47:59.bombarded. What does that do in terms of engagement and turnout?

:48:00. > :48:04.There is always a risk that when you get a lot of election in the

:48:05. > :48:09.country, be polite to vote in Britain. It is a mature democracy.

:48:10. > :48:13.They do not like to vote too often. We have had a sequence in Scotland,

:48:14. > :48:21.Northern Ireland and England and Wales. In the big city regions, with

:48:22. > :48:26.the Metro mayors, in most of those places, there are no other election

:48:27. > :48:29.is going on. As it is a new post covering a big geography around the

:48:30. > :48:34.city centre, there is some concern as to whether the turnout will be

:48:35. > :48:40.anything like as big as we have seen in the London mayoral election. Last

:48:41. > :48:45.time the turnout was 45%. The fear is the turnout will be lower as when

:48:46. > :48:54.the police and crime commission elections took place. General

:48:55. > :48:59.elections 65-70%. 45% for local elections is generally considered

:49:00. > :49:04.pretty good. In your average, metropolitan district, London or shy

:49:05. > :49:10.elections, you would be expecting to get results having between --

:49:11. > :49:16.averaging between 35 and 40%. We will see less than that in the new

:49:17. > :49:19.mayoral elections. These elections do matter in themselves. We're all

:49:20. > :49:24.looking at them and thinking about how much they will indicate on what

:49:25. > :49:29.we can expect in a general election not that long after. What would you

:49:30. > :49:33.say on that front? They are local elections. Everyone who goes out to

:49:34. > :49:39.vote is voting on the quality of services. Standing back from it,

:49:40. > :49:43.these elections are five weeks before a general election and they

:49:44. > :49:49.are bound to be viewed as a way of trying to understand the way real

:49:50. > :49:54.votes are being cast. With local elections, they are real votes. With

:49:55. > :49:58.that in mind, when we distil the results nationally, people will be

:49:59. > :50:03.saying, are the Conservatives doing quite as well in these real results

:50:04. > :50:08.as they are in the polls quest to our Labour doing as badly? So on. As

:50:09. > :50:13.we heard in the packages earlier on, there are real elections where we

:50:14. > :50:17.can see whether the Conservatives can win control of Lancashire,

:50:18. > :50:20.Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire. Terrible results for Labour should

:50:21. > :50:27.that happen and good for the Conservatives. Will the Liberal

:50:28. > :50:32.Democrats the resurgent in the West of England? It is a big test of

:50:33. > :50:35.opinion locally and nationally. Thank you very much.

:50:36. > :50:38.And you can find out more about the local and mayoral

:50:39. > :50:40.elections in your area (GFX) On the BBC News website -

:50:41. > :50:53.And you can watch MP for a day, who cares about politics? Victoria

:50:54. > :50:56.Derbyshire documentary on the BBC I player.

:50:57. > :50:58.Britain's world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua is preparing

:50:59. > :51:01.for the biggest fight of his career tomorrow night when he steps

:51:02. > :51:03.into the ring to face Ukranian Wladimir Klitschko.

:51:04. > :51:05.90,000 people are expected to fill Wembley to watch the bout,

:51:06. > :51:08.which will see the winner become the "unified" heavyweight

:51:09. > :51:11.Anthony Joshua is looking to maintain his perfect unbeaten

:51:12. > :51:13.Wladimir Klitschko is aiming to reclaim

:51:14. > :51:16.the International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Association titles

:51:17. > :51:26.Let's take a look at this clip of Joshua in action.

:51:27. > :51:29.This is from a BBC Three documentary looking ahead to this

:51:30. > :51:36.I like my rest but I need to start earlier so

:51:37. > :51:43.Every morning when you wake up you have to

:51:44. > :51:57.No one puts a gun to my head and says, you have to be a boxer.

:51:58. > :52:00.When I was like 17, 18, it was about being cool,

:52:01. > :52:13.Everything that I've done over the last three years, it's built me

:52:14. > :52:17.I found out what I need to do, what works, what don't work.

:52:18. > :52:27.Joining us now is Rob Madden, Anthony Joshua's physiotherapist,

:52:28. > :52:30.Dillian Whyte, who shared a battle with Anthony Joshua and has also

:52:31. > :52:35.and Olympic bronze medalist Anthony Ogogo.

:52:36. > :52:43.Thank you all for joining us. Rob, he said the last 13 weeks of

:52:44. > :52:49.preparation are tougher than any time. What has he been doing to

:52:50. > :52:55.prepare? Building on previous training camps. Preparing very hard.

:52:56. > :53:00.He is running into a lot of hard sparring, pad work. Putting his body

:53:01. > :53:07.through a gruelling schedule. It is a serious fight. It had to be done.

:53:08. > :53:14.How is he? He is happy physically and in a great place. The mind

:53:15. > :53:23.games, we heard Wladimir Klitschko playing the tape predicting the

:53:24. > :53:30.outcome. How much is that a factor, keeping focused mentally? He is

:53:31. > :53:38.relaxed. I cannot see the USB stick having much effect on him. He has

:53:39. > :53:44.eight tougher skin than that. Anthony, you have known him for ten

:53:45. > :53:48.years. He is such an interesting character. He still lives at home

:53:49. > :53:53.with his mum. He said had he not gone into boxing, he would be in

:53:54. > :53:59.jail. He had difficult times earlier in his life. Tell me more about him.

:54:00. > :54:03.I have trained alongside him for the last seven, eight years. The use of

:54:04. > :54:14.the decayed person. He trained very hard. He is very confident. -- he is

:54:15. > :54:18.a dedicated person. He backed himself. He trained hard as his

:54:19. > :54:25.confidence comes with how he trains. I trained with him for a long time.

:54:26. > :54:31.We have raced together, hit the bag together. He trained very hard. He

:54:32. > :54:35.deserves his success. A really good fighter and a massive challenge for

:54:36. > :54:49.him. Clitch coe has been a tremendous champion for the last few

:54:50. > :54:52.years. -- Wladimir Klitschko. I have fought Anthony twice and Wladimir

:54:53. > :55:01.Klitschko a few times. It is one of those fights which is tricky at the

:55:02. > :55:05.moment. It depends how much Wladimir Klitschko attacks and how much

:55:06. > :55:18.Anthony Joshua is challenge. It is difficult to pick a winner. We will

:55:19. > :55:24.see how heavy Joshua comes in and how heavy that it clitch coe is.

:55:25. > :55:35.Wladimir Klitschko has been to Mendis champion. -- a tremendous

:55:36. > :55:44.champion. Joshua is young, hungry and fast. He is a fast fighter. A

:55:45. > :55:52.lot of guys that size can punch hard. His speed is to Mendis factor.

:55:53. > :55:58.Wladimir Klitschko had that speed back in the day. -- a tremendous

:55:59. > :56:03.factor. It is how much Anthony Joshua can take him out of his

:56:04. > :56:12.stride and let his bath and go. If he does that, I think he will win.

:56:13. > :56:19.-- let his bath and go. It takes it out of you. I think Joshua is

:56:20. > :56:23.younger, fresher, faster. That will be the difference in winning the

:56:24. > :56:28.fight. In terms of preparation when he says he does not worry about

:56:29. > :56:33.getting injured in the ring because he tests everything before he goes

:56:34. > :56:38.in. Talk through what it is like being there when he is training and

:56:39. > :56:42.how he is approaching it. It is about teamwork around him and

:56:43. > :56:50.balancing his training loads and his recovery. He is training hard and

:56:51. > :56:52.put in a lot of stress on his body for the utilising the strength and

:56:53. > :56:57.conditioning and physiotherapy. This week is about being quiet on that

:56:58. > :57:00.front. Addressing the tight spots. His muscles are feeling really fresh

:57:01. > :57:06.for tomorrow night. I am really happy with where he is at. Everyone

:57:07. > :57:10.is. I hope Wladimir Klitschko is in the same position. Both are coming

:57:11. > :57:16.in strong and healthy and it will be a good fight. People see the

:57:17. > :57:24.physicality of boxing. It is a mental sport as well, isn't it?

:57:25. > :57:31.People watch boxing and see two, big, muscular guys throwing punches

:57:32. > :57:39.and they think that is it. It is so technical. Every game plan has been

:57:40. > :57:45.sorted out. It is not about doing press ups, bicep curling was he has

:57:46. > :57:49.spent 13 weeks going over game plans. Doing one thing and then the

:57:50. > :57:56.next week doing another thing. It is a hard business. Both guys can punch

:57:57. > :58:01.very hard. If you make one mistake, you are knocked out. You have lost

:58:02. > :58:06.the credibility you have built up. Thank you. We are looking forward to

:58:07. > :58:09.the fight tomorrow. Thank you very much for joining us.

:58:10. > :58:12.If you're watching on BBC Two, in a moment coverage of the snooker.

:58:13. > :58:15.To continue watching our programme turn over to the BBC

:58:16. > :58:18.News Channel, where coming up in the next half hour.

:58:19. > :58:20.A successful journalist found out her husband

:58:21. > :58:31.Poorna Bell is now opening up about what happened to her husband

:58:32. > :58:43.Rob, and is sharing her story with this programme just after 10.

:58:44. > :58:53.Largely fine, dry day out there and this was the scene taken by our

:58:54. > :58:57.weather Watchers in Broadstairs. As we head through the bank holiday

:58:58. > :59:02.weekend, the quiet theme continues at least for a while. A bit warmer

:59:03. > :59:05.than they have been, turning quite breezy and at times, there's a

:59:06. > :59:11.chance of rain, particularly on Sunday. One or two showers across

:59:12. > :59:15.Scotland, northern England, Wales and southern England but either side

:59:16. > :59:19.of that line of cloud, dry and brighter stop decent sunshine.

:59:20. > :59:24.Lighter winds and recent days and temperatures at around 15 degrees.

:59:25. > :59:29.Saturday, the driest day of the weekend. Quite a bit of sunshine.

:59:30. > :59:37.The chance of the rogue shower. Temperatures around 16. Windy in the

:59:38. > :59:42.west. Sunday, some rain in the south-west of England. Wales as

:59:43. > :59:45.well, going north-east but some uncertainty on Sunday. Looks like

:59:46. > :59:50.Northern and north-eastern part of the country should stay dry and

:59:51. > :59:53.breezy. Most of the rain clears through bank holiday Monday. A

:59:54. > :59:57.return to some sunshine, 12 showers but it should feel pleasant with

:59:58. > :00:03.lighter winds and temperatures up to 16 degrees.

:00:04. > :00:13.It's Friday, ten o'clock and I am Joanna Gosling, thanks for your

:00:14. > :00:16.company. If a woman has been shot during an anti-terror operation on a

:00:17. > :00:22.residential street in north-west London. Neil Basu said six people

:00:23. > :00:28.have now been arrested. I wanted to reassure the public

:00:29. > :00:30.that this increased level of terrorist activity

:00:31. > :00:32.is being matched by our actions, the police and security

:00:33. > :00:34.services across the country. We are making arrests

:00:35. > :00:36.on a near daily basis and you saw some

:00:37. > :00:38.of that, yesterday. We will have the latest in Willesden

:00:39. > :00:44.Junction shortly. A successful journalist only

:00:45. > :00:46.found out after three years that her husband

:00:47. > :00:49.was a heroin addict. He sought help but later

:00:50. > :00:51.relapsed and killed himself. Poorna Bell is here to share her

:00:52. > :00:56.story with this programme. The idea that the person

:00:57. > :00:59.I loved most in the world, that I trusted most

:01:00. > :01:00.in the world would be using

:01:01. > :01:02.something like that not even periodically,

:01:03. > :01:03.but would be an addict, it was

:01:04. > :01:05.absolutely unfathomable. I would never have made that

:01:06. > :01:07.connection if he hadn't Imagine buying a new home,

:01:08. > :01:16.but finding that the cost to rent the ground the property

:01:17. > :01:19.is on is doubling every few years. That's what happened to some

:01:20. > :01:21.leasehold homeowners. But now one developer,

:01:22. > :01:23.Taylor Wimpey, has set aside a fund of ?130 million to help

:01:24. > :01:25.reduce these costs after It just seems immoral

:01:26. > :01:32.and completely unethical. And you read the contract

:01:33. > :01:34.as much as... I think I probably read

:01:35. > :01:36.the contract about 50 times. And it didn't matter

:01:37. > :01:40.how many times I read the one paragraph in which this

:01:41. > :01:42.clause is contained, I still can't A teenage boy, whose brother

:01:43. > :01:50.was killed in a Taliban massacre at his school in Peshawar,

:01:51. > :01:52.is now in Birmingham, teaching children about

:01:53. > :01:54.the dangers of extremism. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:01:55. > :02:12.with a summary of todays news. The UK's counter-terrorism unit

:02:13. > :02:16.says it's making arrests The unit's policing coordinator made

:02:17. > :02:20.the comments this morning - saying six people have now been

:02:21. > :02:23.detained in connection with an anti-terror operation

:02:24. > :02:25.in Willesden, north-west London, during which a woman was shot

:02:26. > :02:27.and injured by police. It happened hours after a man

:02:28. > :02:29.was arrested for allegedly attempting a terror attack

:02:30. > :02:32.near the Houses of Parliament. Officers say the two

:02:33. > :02:40.incidents aren't connected. Given the horrors in London of a few

:02:41. > :02:44.short weeks ago, and may I say our thoughts are still with the victims

:02:45. > :02:47.and survivors of that horrific day, I wanted to reassure the public

:02:48. > :02:49.that this increased level of terrorist activity

:02:50. > :02:51.is being matched by our actions, the police and security

:02:52. > :02:56.services across the country. We are making arrests

:02:57. > :02:58.on a near daily basis I also wanted to pay

:02:59. > :03:03.tribute to the bravery and detective colleagues,

:03:04. > :03:12.doing that work to keep us all safe. Our correspondent, Andy Moore

:03:13. > :03:23.is at Willesden Green. Good morning, is any more detail a

:03:24. > :03:29.margin about what went on? -- detail emerging. We had that update from

:03:30. > :03:32.Scotland Yard. They called it an extraordinary day yesterday, two

:03:33. > :03:37.separate ongoing terror investigations. This house behind me

:03:38. > :03:42.was raided at about 7pm last night. If we just push into the house, it's

:03:43. > :03:46.the one with the satellite dish. You may be able to see in the top

:03:47. > :03:51.right-hand window on the top floor, there is a broken window. We know

:03:52. > :03:56.from police that a CS gas was used here. Police said they had to make

:03:57. > :03:59.an armed entry, which was necessary because of intelligence. We don't

:04:00. > :04:03.know precisely what that intelligence was that this house had

:04:04. > :04:08.been under surveillance for some time. -- but this house. It would

:04:09. > :04:13.have six people had been arrested in connection with this incident. A

:04:14. > :04:16.16-year-old boy was arrested here. A man and a woman both aged 20 and a

:04:17. > :04:23.separate arrest last night of a 43-year-old woman in Kent. Four

:04:24. > :04:27.rests with Europe last night and we heard this morning of an additional

:04:28. > :04:34.two arrests made at this property when two people returned to this

:04:35. > :04:37.address. A man and a woman aged 28. Obviously, the police investigation

:04:38. > :04:42.carrying on here. We understand that there are investigations at linked

:04:43. > :04:48.addresses. We don't know where they are. At other locations in London.

:04:49. > :04:55.The IBC say, the independent watchdog, will be investigating this

:04:56. > :04:58.case -- IPC. When firearms are charged, they investigate. A woman

:04:59. > :05:02.in her 20s is in a serious condition in hospital, under watch by officers

:05:03. > :05:03.but she has not been arrested because of her condition. Andy,

:05:04. > :05:06.thank you. A fund set up to improve patient

:05:07. > :05:09.access to cancer drugs in England has been condemned by researchers

:05:10. > :05:11.as a "huge waste of money". The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010

:05:12. > :05:14.until last year and cost But a new study by King's College

:05:15. > :05:21.London says most of the drugs failed to show clinical benefit,

:05:22. > :05:23.and many patients may have suffered A breast cancer charity has

:05:24. > :05:26.responded, saying the fund A former Royal Marine who shot dead

:05:27. > :05:35.an injured Taliban fighter in Afghanistan has been

:05:36. > :05:36.released from prison. Sergeant Alexander Blackman was

:05:37. > :05:38.originally found guilty of murder. Last month that conviction

:05:39. > :05:40.was quashed and replaced with manslaughter on the grounds

:05:41. > :05:51.of diminished responsibility. Official figures show the economy

:05:52. > :05:54.grew by 0.3% in the first Economists had been

:05:55. > :05:56.expecting a slowdown, but the results are slightly

:05:57. > :05:58.worse than predicted. The Office for National Statistics

:05:59. > :06:01.said rising prices and a fall That's a summary of

:06:02. > :06:11.the latest BBC News. We will keep talking about that huge

:06:12. > :06:29.fight. All eyes will be on Wembley tomorrow

:06:30. > :06:33.evening for what could be another memorable fight for British fight

:06:34. > :06:38.fans and Anthony Joshua takes a step up in class to defend his world

:06:39. > :06:41.title against Dr Steelhammer himself Both characters are really

:06:42. > :06:46.intriguing, there's no malice, Let's speak now to Boxing

:06:47. > :06:50.commentator Ronald McIntosh, who will take us through the action

:06:51. > :06:59.on BBC Radio 5live tomorrow night. You were at the press conference

:07:00. > :07:01.yesterday, what was the mood like of the two fighters? The mood in the

:07:02. > :07:06.press conference at the Sky centre was as it has been throughout the

:07:07. > :07:10.entire build-up, to this contest. Epic heavyweight showdown but both

:07:11. > :07:13.guys very surreal, very professional, very calm, very

:07:14. > :07:17.composed, they know one another very well. Anthony Joshua was hired as a

:07:18. > :07:23.sparring partner by Wladimir Klitschko added his title defence

:07:24. > :07:32.back in 2014. There has almost been an element of Anthony Joshua being

:07:33. > :07:34.expected to be the anointed one, the next one. I don't think they

:07:35. > :07:36.anticipated they would meet Bob Wladimir Klitschko lost the title to

:07:37. > :07:39.Funerary. Heavyweight showdown taking place at Wembley on Sunday.

:07:40. > :07:43.Lots of questions going into this fight, mainly the age of Wladimir

:07:44. > :07:47.Klitschko, how long he has been out of the ring and that perceived

:07:48. > :07:52.inexperience from Anthony Joshua. How will they cope with their

:07:53. > :07:55.respective challenges? That is a classic philosophical conundrum

:07:56. > :08:02.which is more valuable, the energy of youth, the wisdom of experience?

:08:03. > :08:05.Wladimir Klitschko is 41, he has been in boxing, taking into account

:08:06. > :08:10.his glittering amateur career, when he won the Olympics civil

:08:11. > :08:13.heavyweight title in 1996, through to the imperious rain, none and a

:08:14. > :08:17.half year, second rain as a heavyweight champion, he has been in

:08:18. > :08:22.boxing for 27 years -- nine and a half years, his second time as a

:08:23. > :08:25.heavyweight champion. But it could go's boxing experience and the

:08:26. > :08:31.totality of Anthony Joshua's time on earth. Hugely powerful individuals,

:08:32. > :08:35.18 five, 18 winds, 18 knockouts but make no mistake, this is a huge step

:08:36. > :08:46.up. He has faced anybody as remotely as good as bad make it go. We are

:08:47. > :08:49.assuming that it could go is the fighter that he was in the past. If

:08:50. > :08:52.we go on the evidence of his last performance against Tyson Fury, that

:08:53. > :08:55.was an absolute aberration. Was it a significant decline or a one off?

:08:56. > :08:56.The answers will -- the questions will be answered on Saturday night.

:08:57. > :08:59.There's coverage of the fight on Radio 5live with Ron and the team

:09:00. > :09:04.from 9 o'clock tomorrow evening - not to be missed!

:09:05. > :09:05.Writer Poorna Bell had been married to Rob,

:09:06. > :09:08.a successful journalist for three years before he admitted

:09:09. > :09:15.Whilst Rob had been open about his battle with depression,

:09:16. > :09:18.which was often severe, she had no idea that he was using

:09:19. > :09:22.heroin to self-medicate his mental health issues.

:09:23. > :09:24.The pair tried to work through his problems together -

:09:25. > :09:27.Rob joined Narcotics Anonymous and Poorna went to a support

:09:28. > :09:32.But eventually Rob relapsed and on a trip to see relatives

:09:33. > :09:36.in New Zealand he tragically took his own life.

:09:37. > :09:39.After losing her husband, Poorna opened up about their struggles

:09:40. > :09:42.with a blog and in a new book, she describes what it was like to

:09:43. > :09:51.live with a something she kept a secret for many years.

:09:52. > :09:59.He mastered at this by saying it was depression. But I knew there wasn't

:10:00. > :10:01.something quite right, there was something he wasn't telling me that

:10:02. > :10:07.I assumed he wasn't comfortable talking about how he felt. When he

:10:08. > :10:12.told me it was an awful moment but at the same time, I felt I had a bit

:10:13. > :10:17.of my sanity back. Because I actually knew what was going on. Had

:10:18. > :10:20.you literally no idea? No idea. When you are married and you trust the

:10:21. > :10:25.other person implicitly, you just expect them to tell you the truth,

:10:26. > :10:28.you don't think for one minute they might not be telling you the truth.

:10:29. > :10:36.The idea of something like heroin, which is an extreme drug in modern

:10:37. > :10:39.society, so taboo, the idea that the person I loved most in the world,

:10:40. > :10:45.that I trusted most in the world would be using something like that

:10:46. > :10:46.not even periodically, but be an addict, it was absolutely

:10:47. > :10:51.unfathomable. I would never have made that connection if he hadn't

:10:52. > :10:56.have told me. How open was he with you at that point? Once he had told

:10:57. > :11:01.me, everything came out. All of these stories, everything that I

:11:02. > :11:04.thought was one type of a reality, but actually, he then told me the

:11:05. > :11:10.truth about what was going on. He was very open with his feelings and

:11:11. > :11:13.his thoughts immediately afterwards. With addiction it's not as simple as

:11:14. > :11:18.among confessing and they're going to recovery. And then they are keen

:11:19. > :11:24.for the rest of their lives. There were periods of relapse and

:11:25. > :11:27.recovery. Every time he led up to a relapse it would be punctuated by

:11:28. > :11:30.the same kind of behaviour. He wouldn't talk about how he was

:11:31. > :11:35.feeling, be closed off and eventually he was confessing Tammy

:11:36. > :11:39.what was going on. Why did he tell you? I asked him that question. --

:11:40. > :11:44.he was confessing and then tell me. He said he was caught at the right

:11:45. > :11:47.moment. In some measures that is quite worrying because what if I

:11:48. > :11:52.hadn't? What if he hadn't had told me at that point in time? Because we

:11:53. > :11:57.kick-started his recovery almost immediately after that, two days

:11:58. > :12:01.after that. He was just fed up with lying and with having to carry all

:12:02. > :12:04.of that on his own, which is what addiction is. Especially when you

:12:05. > :12:08.can't tell your loved ones about it. Had he been on heroin the whole time

:12:09. > :12:13.you had known him? In other words, you wouldn't have noticed any

:12:14. > :12:18.particular change? No. About 18 months of our relationship, he

:12:19. > :12:21.wasn't. For the first 18 months. I'd definitely, looking back on it

:12:22. > :12:25.retrospectively, I know when his behaviour started changing. But it

:12:26. > :12:29.coincided when I moved into living with him. I just thought maybe this

:12:30. > :12:37.is what it was like when I'm not around. I didn't put two and two

:12:38. > :12:40.together. He was an addict for about three years from that point onwards.

:12:41. > :12:46.I would probably venture maybe three, three and a half, actually.

:12:47. > :12:51.In the book, you talk about tell-tale signs that when you looked

:12:52. > :12:57.back with knowledge, you saw in a different way things like tinfoil,

:12:58. > :13:01.using opt in for quite quickly in the house, which at the time you

:13:02. > :13:06.hadn't thought much about -- using it up quite quickly in the house. In

:13:07. > :13:11.the book, it's quite a comical mind that I throw out there but I was,

:13:12. > :13:16.like, my God, there was no tinfoil for us to grilled chicken on! It's

:13:17. > :13:18.something as mundane as that, sandwiched with something so extreme

:13:19. > :13:24.as the fact that he had been using it to smoke heroin in the toilet. I

:13:25. > :13:28.has to re-evaluate every single thing that I thought I knew. Things

:13:29. > :13:33.like going to the shops Leyton Aspal cigarette -- I has to re-evaluate.

:13:34. > :13:36.Why he may have been late to meet me for something -- shops late at night

:13:37. > :13:41.to buy cigarettes. That was something extremely hard to

:13:42. > :13:45.reconcile. How was he funding it? He wasn't. He got himself into

:13:46. > :13:50.thousands of pounds of debt. He jointly owned a house and use the

:13:51. > :13:56.equity for that to pay of some of his debt. Unfortunately, he got back

:13:57. > :13:59.into debt again. On a side note, it leads you to wonder about people,

:14:00. > :14:03.creditors, having known someone had a problem with debt, are very happy

:14:04. > :14:08.to lend to them again, unfortunately. In terms of actually

:14:09. > :14:12.getting the heroine, coming into contact with the people that you had

:14:13. > :14:18.no idea that your husband was in any sort of contact with? Even though he

:14:19. > :14:22.would tell these people please don't call me, I am trying to recover,

:14:23. > :14:27.every time they would get a new phone they were text him and say, by

:14:28. > :14:31.the way, this is the new number, if you need anything, let me know. He

:14:32. > :14:38.would give me the phone and I would delete the text for him. You

:14:39. > :14:42.discovered all of this and went into firefighting mode? To look after

:14:43. > :14:46.your husband, to try to sort it out. But you didn't tell anybody else,

:14:47. > :14:52.why did you decide to try to manage it on your own. It must have been a

:14:53. > :14:56.huge burden on you? It was an immense burden. But when you go

:14:57. > :15:03.through something fairly traumatic, you have to prioritise what you are

:15:04. > :15:07.going to deal with. But you are not capable of dealing with in your

:15:08. > :15:10.current sphere at the time. When he told me, our world dwindled to a

:15:11. > :15:16.very small point and a small focus in terms of the absolute demerit

:15:17. > :15:20.urgent -- most urgent thing to do was get him in recovery, engaging

:15:21. > :15:26.with services. Making sure I was at home oh on hand to help him with

:15:27. > :15:32.whatever he needed. Beyond that. There was one person I told about

:15:33. > :15:39.it. In my own mind, that point, I knew so very little about addiction.

:15:40. > :15:46.I was not just battling with what Rob was going through, trying to

:15:47. > :15:52.keep him safe and healthy, but I was also struggling with what I thought

:15:53. > :15:57.addiction was, what I had been brought up to believe it was and my

:15:58. > :16:02.own judgments about it. The lying, the behaviours and reconciling some

:16:03. > :16:07.of that. I thought, if I am struggling with it, how will my

:16:08. > :16:13.loved ones feel about it? They know even less. Rob is my husband, my

:16:14. > :16:19.loved one. They do love him as well. It is a different kind of

:16:20. > :16:26.relationship. I was trying to sort through the mass of my own mindful

:16:27. > :16:31.that because I needed Rob to have a stable environment, I just thought

:16:32. > :16:35.the risk was 2- stop if I told them what was going on and the reaction

:16:36. > :16:41.was anything other than, we love you, we are really sorry, I could

:16:42. > :16:47.not deal with it, I could not handle it. I was not ashamed of Rob but I

:16:48. > :16:51.was ashamed of the situation we found ourselves in and the debt we

:16:52. > :16:56.were in and that things had got to this point. I did not know this was

:16:57. > :17:02.happening to someone I was living with. All of that combined meant I

:17:03. > :17:08.could not really speak about it. In society we do not have a very

:17:09. > :17:13.benign, understanding, or intelligent view of what addiction

:17:14. > :17:21.is in society. How could anyone else appreciate it when I did not myself?

:17:22. > :17:30.Prior to being in that situation what was he like? From the beginning

:17:31. > :17:35.and through that time as well? As you would have gathered, he was

:17:36. > :17:39.incredibly complicated. You had the struggles he was going through. He

:17:40. > :17:47.struggled with depression and addiction. He was open about the

:17:48. > :17:52.depression? He was. He was this incredible man, the most intelligent

:17:53. > :18:00.person I had met. He worked as a science journalist but he was a

:18:01. > :18:06.voracious reader. You would always find him reading, whether it was

:18:07. > :18:13.news or books. He had an insane knowledge about nature. It is a

:18:14. > :18:17.thing. You could be walking through a small park, going to a reservoir

:18:18. > :18:22.or woodland, and he would just know what species that tree was or what

:18:23. > :18:31.species that plant was. He would spot birds. He really opened up your

:18:32. > :18:36.knowledge of the environment you were in. Now we look at things and

:18:37. > :18:41.think, I really wish that Rob were around to tell us that. He was

:18:42. > :18:45.incredibly generous and kind. If there were someone stuck in a

:18:46. > :18:50.country who did not know anyone he would find a friend of a friend of a

:18:51. > :18:54.friend who would knows and in that place and connect to say you did not

:18:55. > :19:01.have to have dinner alone. You might want to have a Coffey with them. He

:19:02. > :19:06.had a very big heart. Someone who had so much to give. It must have

:19:07. > :19:14.been so frustrating for you, being up close and seeing the demons that

:19:15. > :19:18.word tormenting him. His capacity to help others was infinite. His

:19:19. > :19:28.capacity to help himself, narrow, aeons narrow. -- aeons narrow. When

:19:29. > :19:33.you try to help him through quickly got to a point where you believed he

:19:34. > :19:39.was sober. He said he was sober and you discovered he was not. What

:19:40. > :19:44.happened at that point? I thought addiction meant when you went into

:19:45. > :19:47.recovery did not touch the drug again, especially feels Boustead, I

:19:48. > :19:55.do not think I can do with it if you continue to use drugs. -- if your

:19:56. > :20:01.spouse said. That is not how addiction works it is not as clean

:20:02. > :20:07.cut as that. If someone relapses, it means the journey is a lot more

:20:08. > :20:15.complicated. When he relapsed, he relapsed three times before he

:20:16. > :20:20.passed away. Each relapse was accompanied by about three weeks of,

:20:21. > :20:27.I don't feel well. Honestly, I am fine. I have not relapsed. This

:20:28. > :20:32.insistence that everything was fine with him. Eventually the breaking

:20:33. > :20:37.point that I would keep asking the questions over and again. He would

:20:38. > :20:43.say, you are right. It was always punctuated with me feeling like I

:20:44. > :20:47.did not know what to believe. You cannot tell them what to do. You

:20:48. > :20:53.cannot force the truth out of them if they are not willing to

:20:54. > :21:02.relinquish it. Not even about the relapse, but about the behaviour

:21:03. > :21:06.around the relapse. It is about not feeling confident enough to come

:21:07. > :21:14.forward with the truth. You got to the point where you decided there

:21:15. > :21:19.should be a three-month separation? Yes. If he gets through six months

:21:20. > :21:24.of recovery, we would try for children. I think he made it as far

:21:25. > :21:29.as about five and a half months. The last few weeks of that he relapsed.

:21:30. > :21:35.There were different circumstances and why that was the case. He was

:21:36. > :21:40.insisting, I am still sober and ready to start trying for a family.

:21:41. > :21:46.When I've figured out he had relapsed, and he confessed, I

:21:47. > :21:49.thought, I cannot really do this. If you were a drug addict continually

:21:50. > :21:53.going through relapse that is thing I could deal with. I could not deal

:21:54. > :21:58.with the lying. The children added an extra dimensional to it. I just

:21:59. > :22:03.thought, I don't know if we can actually have children. That was a

:22:04. > :22:07.very painful realisation for him as well. Being someone who is extremely

:22:08. > :22:15.compassionate and did want to do the right thing, I think he realised he

:22:16. > :22:18.could not be the kind of father he wanted to be because he would...

:22:19. > :22:22.There would always be the risk he would be subjecting them to his

:22:23. > :22:26.addiction or his depression. With the children, I've just thought, if

:22:27. > :22:30.I continue going down this line with you and you cannot do recovery for

:22:31. > :22:35.yourself because you are scared to lose me, I am going to stop

:22:36. > :22:39.respecting myself in this situation and stop respecting you. I loved him

:22:40. > :22:47.so much I did not want to get to the point where I did not want the best

:22:48. > :22:51.for him or I did not love him. The idea was he was going to go to New

:22:52. > :22:55.Zealand for the period of our separation. At the end of that

:22:56. > :22:59.period we would work out where he was in terms of that recovery and

:23:00. > :23:05.figure out whether or not we could reconcile things. And while he was

:23:06. > :23:12.there you had a particular day where there was a terrible worry. You had

:23:13. > :23:20.had texts from him. We were text doing. We were in regular contact

:23:21. > :23:23.while he was in New Zealand. We did have an exchange. I could not

:23:24. > :23:29.understand the language of what he was saying. It was similar to the

:23:30. > :23:34.language he had used in the past. We should probably talk for one last

:23:35. > :23:39.time. I do not know if I can do this any more. It took on a tone and

:23:40. > :23:46.events unfolded. We could not get hold of him and we could not hear

:23:47. > :23:55.from him. I thought, I bet he will show up and he did not. You talk

:23:56. > :23:58.about the fact he felt a level of responsibility towards him as your

:23:59. > :24:03.husband but the man he loved. You did everything he possibly could to

:24:04. > :24:09.get him through. Sadly he took his own life when he was in New Zealand.

:24:10. > :24:13.How did you learn what had happened? His mother called me. The police

:24:14. > :24:23.found me and his mother called me. That is how I found out. Yes. And

:24:24. > :24:27.then I think I booked a flight. Those 24 hours were a complete blur

:24:28. > :24:34.and I booked a flight and I was pretty much in New Zealand in the

:24:35. > :24:38.space of two days, I think. He had written an e-mail in which he had

:24:39. > :24:42.described how painful it was for him to live because of his depression.

:24:43. > :24:45.He said regardless of whether things are going well or badly, and

:24:46. > :24:53.regardless of my absolutely and amazing wife, he clearly found life

:24:54. > :24:57.very difficult. How did you feel when you knew he had written that

:24:58. > :25:04.down, paying tribute to you but bitter- sweet? It sounds really odd

:25:05. > :25:08.about that note. That note through difficult. It was a note to his

:25:09. > :25:15.doctor and was just explaining very clearly what was in his mind and how

:25:16. > :25:19.hard he had found it. Only about 30% of people leave a suicide note. Even

:25:20. > :25:25.then, people that do, that note could be written in a very

:25:26. > :25:30.particular frame of mind. I think a lot of importance is attributed to

:25:31. > :25:35.it. Actually, a lot of people talk to themselves based on what was left

:25:36. > :25:40.behind on someone post back suicide note. It is not necessarily them. It

:25:41. > :25:45.was written by them when they were in a very particular frame of mind.

:25:46. > :25:49.I don't think people like you and me can necessarily even begin to

:25:50. > :25:56.understand what it must feel to feel like that. When I read his note, it

:25:57. > :26:01.is a weird sense of absolution. I think with suicide, I don't think I

:26:02. > :26:06.know anyone who does not feel like this. Whether you are a spouse or a

:26:07. > :26:11.parent, if there is something you feel you should have done, anything

:26:12. > :26:18.is better than what the outcome ended up being. That puts so much

:26:19. > :26:24.pressure on any individual, even if you are as close to him as I was, or

:26:25. > :26:28.his parents were. You are not responsible for someone else's live.

:26:29. > :26:32.Any more than someone else is responsible for yours. That note an

:26:33. > :26:39.insight into reading him saying something like, I hope that my

:26:40. > :26:44.friends and family would understand that even a day or two feeling like

:26:45. > :26:49.this is utterly unbearable, that they would be able to understand. I

:26:50. > :26:55.think that gives such a startlingly honest insight into how he was

:26:56. > :27:00.feeling. We have this idea that suicide is selfish. It means someone

:27:01. > :27:06.does not care about you. That is not true. He cared about all of us. He

:27:07. > :27:14.loved all of us. Other people are out there, who have taken their own

:27:15. > :27:17.lives. They have not done it to spite someone. They have people they

:27:18. > :27:21.love and have left behind. It is not about that. Being able to understand

:27:22. > :27:26.that liberates you from the idea that you are responsible for them.

:27:27. > :27:29.Now, if you're feeling emotionally distressed and would like details

:27:30. > :27:31.of organisations which offer advice and support, go online

:27:32. > :27:33.to bbc.co.uk/actionline or you can call for free,

:27:34. > :27:51.at any time to hear recorded information - 0800 066 066.

:27:52. > :27:57.Police say they've foiled an active terrorist plot after carrying out

:27:58. > :28:01.A female suspect was shot during the operation

:28:02. > :28:03.and is in a serious but stable condition in hospital.

:28:04. > :28:07.The Independent Police Complaints Commission is investigating.

:28:08. > :28:09.It happened hours after a man was arrested for allegedly

:28:10. > :28:14.attempting a terror attack near the Houses of Parliament.

:28:15. > :28:17.A study has concluded that a special cancer fund set up to give patients

:28:18. > :28:20.in England access to expensive drugs was a waste of money.

:28:21. > :28:27.The Cancer Drugs Fund ran from 2010 until last year and cost

:28:28. > :28:31.The study, by King's College London, says most of the drugs failed

:28:32. > :28:43.The former Royal Marine Alexander Blackman -

:28:44. > :28:45.whose murder conviction for killing a Taliban fighter

:28:46. > :28:48.in Afghanistan was quashed - has been released from prison.

:28:49. > :28:50.Sergeant Blackman - known as "Marine A" -

:28:51. > :28:52.during the case - had his conviction reduced to manslaughter

:28:53. > :28:56.He has served more than three years of a seven-year sentence.

:28:57. > :28:59.The general election will be a tipping point for education,

:29:00. > :29:01.according to headteachers who warn the stability

:29:02. > :29:06.A survey by the National Assocation of Headteachers found that nearly

:29:07. > :29:09.three-quarters of heads say their budget will be

:29:10. > :29:15.It comes as economists predict it would cost ?2 billion to freeze

:29:16. > :29:17.school funding in real terms over the next five years.

:29:18. > :29:20.The Department for Education says school funding is at record levels.

:29:21. > :29:22.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

:29:23. > :29:37.Now for the sport. It was all about the race for the fourth and final

:29:38. > :29:42.Champions League spot last night in the Manchester derby. The match did

:29:43. > :29:47.not live up to expectation. A moment of madness was the talking point

:29:48. > :29:51.when Marouane Fellaini were sent off for head-butting Sergio Aguero. He

:29:52. > :29:57.had already been booked for another foul on the Argentine forward. That

:29:58. > :30:04.means city and United stay fourth and fifth in the table. Third spot

:30:05. > :30:08.is still possible for Arsenal. They have a big North London derby

:30:09. > :30:14.against second-place spurs on Sunday. Anthony Joshua says he will

:30:15. > :30:20.not be affected by Wladimir Klitschko's mind games. He says he

:30:21. > :30:24.has made a video prediction but will not reveal what is on it. Joshua

:30:25. > :30:34.says he has heard it all before. The first day of the toured of

:30:35. > :30:37.Yorkshire. The men's defending champion will be there. More at 11

:30:38. > :30:39.o'clock. You may remember earlier this year

:30:40. > :30:42.we told you about a new trend for developers to sell new homes

:30:43. > :30:45.as leasehold, rather than freehold, and then sell off the freehold,

:30:46. > :30:48.that's the ground the property is on, to investment

:30:49. > :30:50.companies meaning higher One of these charges is ground rent

:30:51. > :30:56.and some home owners have found this They say it's an unfair cost

:30:57. > :31:01.and also makes it difficult for them Now, one of the home builders

:31:02. > :31:05.in our film, Taylor Wimpey, has set aside a fund of ?130 million

:31:06. > :31:09.to help reduce these costs. It applies to customers who bought

:31:10. > :31:11.homes between 2007 and 2011, the developer refuses to say how

:31:12. > :31:15.many people are affected. Other developers also took

:31:16. > :31:17.part in the practice, and the move by Taylor Wimpey

:31:18. > :31:20.is being seen as the first recognition by a housebuilder

:31:21. > :31:22.that the practise was wrong. Here's a reminder of our film

:31:23. > :31:32.with James Longman. Luke bought his flat three

:31:33. > :31:34.years ago for ?150,000. He'd fallen in love with this

:31:35. > :31:36.Victorian building in Little did he know he had

:31:37. > :31:40.also fallen victim to a growing trend for clauses that

:31:41. > :31:48.hike up ground rent. That's the yearly fee

:31:49. > :31:51.a leaseholder pays to live on a Luke thought he'd pay ?250

:31:52. > :31:54.a year, which is roughly But six months after he moved

:31:55. > :31:58.in, he got a bill for A small, but important

:31:59. > :32:01.clause had been written into his contract by his freeholder

:32:02. > :32:03.potentially designed to be On the face of it, it

:32:04. > :32:12.just seems immoral and And you read the contract

:32:13. > :32:15.as much as you... Certainly after I realised and it

:32:16. > :32:21.did not matter how many times I read the one paragraph in which this

:32:22. > :32:24.clause is contained, I still can't "The tenant shall be required

:32:25. > :32:36.to pay such annual rent as shall be two thirds less than two

:32:37. > :32:39.thirds of the rentable That's the key bit.

:32:40. > :32:43.No idea what that means at all. He's certainly not

:32:44. > :32:47.the only person to do this but we have been

:32:48. > :32:49.told about at least 20 He's even been criticised

:32:50. > :32:52.in Parliament. One crook, whether it's

:32:53. > :32:55.criminal or not is not Luke's solicitor had to pay

:32:56. > :33:02.Martin Payne ?7,000 to remove the clause, but it

:33:03. > :33:04.did not end there. Luke was left with

:33:05. > :33:06.a doubling clause, something that has

:33:07. > :33:07.become increasingly It states ground rent is ?250

:33:08. > :33:19.a year, backdated to 1990. Which does not sound too bad,

:33:20. > :33:23.but it also says that that figure So by 2020 he'd be paying ?2,000

:33:24. > :33:30.a year, and it keeps doubling. By 2070 he'd be paying ?64,000

:33:31. > :33:33.a year and by the end of the 190 year lease there'd be over

:33:34. > :33:35.?65 million every year In total, over the course

:33:36. > :33:49.of the lease, ground rent would have cost more than ?1.3 billion

:33:50. > :33:52.on a flat costing just ?150,000. What's your feeling

:33:53. > :33:57.towards Martin Payne now? He's caused me quite

:33:58. > :34:02.a lot of stress. I don't deal with him directly

:34:03. > :34:06.because everything goes through my solicitor, but I'm very

:34:07. > :34:10.aware that this clause was inserted into the contract when they extended

:34:11. > :34:13.the lease for no other reason There'd be no reason

:34:14. > :34:18.he needs to do this. It is clearly

:34:19. > :34:21.constructed to deceive. What we say to all members

:34:22. > :34:24.of the conveyancing association is, make sure that if you are advising

:34:25. > :34:27.client on these clauses, because they can be so tricky,

:34:28. > :34:31.that you run the calculation and that you are entirely sure

:34:32. > :34:34.as to what that calculation is, and that you are entirely sure

:34:35. > :34:39.as to what that calculation is. Because when you sit down with that

:34:40. > :34:42.and spend some time looking at it, it becomes clear that this is just

:34:43. > :34:45.an attempt to dupe people What we have seen in a lot of these

:34:46. > :34:51.leases and contracts If you think what doubling the rent

:34:52. > :35:02.every ten years actually means in investment terms,

:35:03. > :35:04.it means that the rent will be going up by 7% a year,

:35:05. > :35:07.a guaranteed 7% return is pretty And so this is what has created

:35:08. > :35:17.these new investment vehicles that are so interesting to,

:35:18. > :35:19.say, pension funds and other People like Luke freely enter

:35:20. > :35:32.into these contracts The allegation is not that

:35:33. > :35:38.Martin Payne expects people to pay these ridiculous sums,

:35:39. > :35:39.it's that he's banking on solicitors to miss the clauses

:35:40. > :35:42.and pay him to remove them. Let's talk to Joanne Darbyshire,

:35:43. > :36:13.who is a leaseholder who bought her home from Taylor Wimpey and then

:36:14. > :36:16.discovered that her ground rent We're also joined by

:36:17. > :36:22.Sebastian O'Kelly from Leasehold Knowledge Partnership,

:36:23. > :36:24.who has been campaigning And Sir Peter Bottomley,

:36:25. > :36:27.a Conservative MP and chairman of the cross-party MPs' group

:36:28. > :36:37.on leaseholder reform. Bringing it up in the Commons next

:36:38. > :36:42.week. Thank you all for joining us. Taylor Wimpey putting aside ?130

:36:43. > :36:48.million, what is the money for? And how significant is it? It's a very

:36:49. > :36:53.good question. If a significant sign of contrition, something went very

:36:54. > :36:56.seriously wrong, here. But what is the money for? With leasehold house

:36:57. > :36:59.owners, we would like to see them using the money to offer the

:37:00. > :37:04.freehold back to the original buyers at the price that was originally

:37:05. > :37:07.offered. Unfortunately Taylor Wimpey sold these freeholds off to some of

:37:08. > :37:12.the most hard-nosed sharks in the property game. How they get them off

:37:13. > :37:15.them is an open question. With flat owners, there will have to be a deal

:37:16. > :37:20.of variation to reduce the ground rents. I would suggest they reduce

:37:21. > :37:24.it to zero, what is ground rent for? It goes straight into the pockets...

:37:25. > :37:30.T.I.N.A. Of the freeholders for no service whatsoever. -- straight into

:37:31. > :37:33.the hands of freeholders. Joanna, you bought a leasehold flat with a

:37:34. > :37:38.doubling ground red arrangement, when did it become clear to you that

:37:39. > :37:42.the ground rent would double? -- ground rent. It was clear but we

:37:43. > :37:47.always intended to buy the freehold. At the point of sale we were told it

:37:48. > :37:51.would be about ?5,000 - ?6,000. Neither Taylor Wimpey nor the

:37:52. > :37:56.conveyancing solicitor that they recommended we use informed us that

:37:57. > :38:00.there was freeholds would be sold on to investment companies who would

:38:01. > :38:08.then want thousands and thousands of pounds to buy them. The situation

:38:09. > :38:12.you find yourself in now is what? It's more on clear after yesterday

:38:13. > :38:16.but it's fair to say that had we purchased the freehold from Taylor

:38:17. > :38:21.Wimpey when we bought a house in December 2010, we would have paid

:38:22. > :38:25.them just less than ?6,000 for it. Our best option now is to use a

:38:26. > :38:30.process called enfranchisement to agree a fair price with the current

:38:31. > :38:36.freeholder. That's likely to be anything in the region from ?11,000

:38:37. > :38:39.- ?26,000 plus costs. You know someone who actually tried to sell

:38:40. > :38:42.their house and that sale fell through because of the situation

:38:43. > :38:47.with the ground rents, tell us what happened. That was one of my

:38:48. > :38:50.neighbours, Claire. The house sale fell through on the actual day and

:38:51. > :38:56.she had already completed on her new property and the house sale fell

:38:57. > :38:59.through because the purchaser' solicitors identified the doubling

:39:00. > :39:05.ground red claws and advised them to pull out of the sale. Sir Peter

:39:06. > :39:09.Bottomley, it is an issue you are bringing up in the Commons. What can

:39:10. > :39:16.be done to control what is going on here? First of all, we need to

:39:17. > :39:19.distinguish between the Martin Payne character and the developers

:39:20. > :39:23.including Taylor Wimpey. I welcome Taylor Wimpey doing something about

:39:24. > :39:28.this. The modern painting I will return to some other time, probably

:39:29. > :39:31.in Parliament. The pension fund to invest in the freehold companies,

:39:32. > :39:35.the Adriatic saw this world, we need to say to them, don't act in a

:39:36. > :39:39.socially irresponsible and corporately irresponsible way, we

:39:40. > :39:42.don't want it. The people who are active in the freehold companies

:39:43. > :39:46.like Adriatic ought to say how on earth can we multiply the value of

:39:47. > :39:53.the freeholds we bought at SA 5000 up to 40000 and then try to in screw

:39:54. > :39:58.ordinary it leasehold is -- up to 5000. The government needs to act.

:39:59. > :40:02.The lawyers need to confess to all the mistakes they have made. And we

:40:03. > :40:05.need to abolish new leasehold and the want of commonhold so none of

:40:06. > :40:13.this can happen either by accident or design. It has been a total mess,

:40:14. > :40:16.a swamp. The metaphors fail me. Or very people having their life

:40:17. > :40:20.savings taken away by unfair and abusive terms -- it is ordinary

:40:21. > :40:27.people having their life savings. Is the only way to get everybody to act

:40:28. > :40:31.correctly to legislate? Legislation will help to make commonhold better

:40:32. > :40:34.than leasehold. But some of the other abuses, the competition market

:40:35. > :40:38.authority ought to look at some of these terms on a super complaint,

:40:39. > :40:41.perhaps from the consumers Association and avoid them because

:40:42. > :40:46.they are abusive. Anyone who thinks you can get to a ground rent of tens

:40:47. > :40:49.of thousands of pounds let alone ?1 million on a small flat needs to

:40:50. > :40:54.realise that what is being done is so wrong, whether criminal or not,

:40:55. > :41:00.it should be unenforceable, it is unfair. What would you say to

:41:01. > :41:03.somebody, don't pay the ground rent? No, you've got to bed the ground

:41:04. > :41:10.rent otherwise you are evicted. Other people around in the leasehold

:41:11. > :41:12.forest to mix metaphors again who I'm evicting, trying to evict some

:41:13. > :41:14.of my constituents through other little stratagems. For not paying

:41:15. > :41:27.ground rent? It's too conjugated to explain. It

:41:28. > :41:30.is a park home issue. -- it is too complicated. You don't want to get

:41:31. > :41:34.evicted but you need to say to people come and defend in public

:41:35. > :41:37.what you are doing. Taylor with the got involved in public discussion

:41:38. > :41:41.and they have made their decision and I hope their directors are glad

:41:42. > :41:46.that I intervenes -- Taylor Wimpey got involved. Bell we haven't. A

:41:47. > :41:49.number of other companies need to do what they are doing. --

:41:50. > :41:57.. Taylor Wimpey haven't completely solve the problem. Sebastian Coe

:41:58. > :42:00.Kelly has explained it. Sebastian Coe Kelly and Martin Boyd together

:42:01. > :42:06.at the charity leasehold knowledge partnership have done more than 650

:42:07. > :42:09.MPs and more than 45 governments. It is a nonparty issue and we need to

:42:10. > :42:12.work together to solve it. It is no doubt a subject we will return to.

:42:13. > :42:16.Thank you very much. We asked Taylor Wimpey to come

:42:17. > :42:19.on the programme, they declined. In a statement, the Chief

:42:20. > :42:26.Executive Pete Redfern said: "We've listened to the concerns

:42:27. > :42:28.and difficulties that some of our customers have faced

:42:29. > :42:31.as a result of their doubling lease We are sorry for the worry

:42:32. > :42:35.this has caused them." And they go on to say: "We have

:42:36. > :42:38.recently decided that all future sales of Taylor Wimpey houses

:42:39. > :42:40.on new developments commencing from 1 January 2017 will be

:42:41. > :42:43.on a freehold basis - except where we don't

:42:44. > :42:46.own the freehold." Our next report contains some

:42:47. > :42:49.graphic descriptions and pictures that you may not want

:42:50. > :42:52.your children to see. December 2014 changed

:42:53. > :42:59.the life of one young Ahmad Nawaz went to school as he did

:43:00. > :43:05.every day with his brother Harris in Peshawar in Pakistan and whilst

:43:06. > :43:10.he was practicing first aid with his class friends, the Taliban

:43:11. > :43:16.entered his school and murdered 141 people, 132 of which where children

:43:17. > :43:21.including his brother. Today, Ahmad who now

:43:22. > :43:23.lives in Birmingham has started a education campaign to help

:43:24. > :43:25.steer some school children away from a life of violence

:43:26. > :43:27.and radicalisation. Our reporter Emb Hashmi has been

:43:28. > :43:38.to look at his anti-extremism work. It started as a normal school day

:43:39. > :43:41.but it turned into a massacre. Many students are the children

:43:42. > :43:44.of the Pakistani military. A normal schoolboy's

:43:45. > :43:46.life is changed for ever The Army Public Schools

:43:47. > :43:51.in Peshawar in Pakistan was attacked by the Taliban,

:43:52. > :43:54.killing 141 people, 132 of Ahmad is one of the survivors

:43:55. > :44:00.and came to Birmingham for He now uses his experience

:44:01. > :44:03.as a tool to educate students in the UK and deter some

:44:04. > :44:10.from being radicalised. I have no words to

:44:11. > :44:14.explain that moment. I really felt upset and shocking,

:44:15. > :44:17.because he lost his brother. He thinks that the best

:44:18. > :44:24.method to challenge an ideology is through

:44:25. > :44:37.people to be educated. My name is Ahmad Nawaz

:44:38. > :44:47.and I'm 16 years old. Ahmed now speaks at

:44:48. > :44:50.a variety of schools up and down the country to help

:44:51. > :44:54.young people steer away from a life Today, he is speaking

:44:55. > :45:01.at Rockwood Academy, formerly known as Park View School

:45:02. > :45:03.in Birmingham, that was part of the Trojan Horse inquiry

:45:04. > :45:06.where it was claimed a group of conservative Muslims

:45:07. > :45:08.were taking over a number I have lost my younger brother

:45:09. > :45:15.and 132 friends in an attack I have no words to

:45:16. > :45:30.describe the experience I have no words to

:45:31. > :45:47.describe the experience I was in first aid training

:45:48. > :45:51.with my schoolmates. Those happy moments of

:45:52. > :45:53.laughing, joking and talking A group of men with

:45:54. > :45:57.guns and bombs in their hands entered our school and

:45:58. > :46:00.started firing, one after another. It was the most astonishing moment

:46:01. > :46:04.of my life because I always thought that school is a safe place,

:46:05. > :46:07.not a place where children would be All I could see was blood

:46:08. > :46:14.and killing and soon I I was laying on the ground,

:46:15. > :46:28.bleeding heavily. I was surrounded by the dead bodies

:46:29. > :46:31.of my dearest friends with whom I was laughing and talking

:46:32. > :46:35.and joking a few minutes ago. Bombing and firing did

:46:36. > :46:37.not stop for long and I thought I could be

:46:38. > :46:40.the next one to be killed. I saw my teacher burned alive

:46:41. > :46:43.but I couldn't help her because my wounds did

:46:44. > :46:45.not let me help her. The terrorists were merciless,

:46:46. > :46:47.they would shoot children My school uniform was red

:46:48. > :46:53.in blood so I pretended to be dead so the terrorists did not

:46:54. > :46:56.notice I was alive, otherwise they Two hours later,

:46:57. > :47:08.the rescuers came and threw me into an ambulance

:47:09. > :47:13.full of dead bodies. This gave me hope

:47:14. > :47:18.that I may survive. In that tragic situation,

:47:19. > :47:20.I had forgotten about my After 15 days, I found out

:47:21. > :47:26.from my friend that Harris I have decided not to be

:47:27. > :47:35.afraid and step back. I will continue to speak

:47:36. > :47:37.and share mine and my friends' stories,

:47:38. > :47:39.to tell the world that the future generation of this world

:47:40. > :47:42.can only have a better My survival in that

:47:43. > :47:46.massacre is a miracle. That's why I have

:47:47. > :47:48.started a campaign. I want to continue

:47:49. > :47:50.spreading this great I want to say this

:47:51. > :47:55.to those students who are inspired by the terrorist

:47:56. > :47:58.ideologies and are running towards different countries

:47:59. > :48:01.like Syria and Iraq. They are not the right people

:48:02. > :48:07.and they do not belong to I'm a proud Muslim

:48:08. > :48:12.and a humanitarian. I know that Islam doesn't teach

:48:13. > :48:15.us about brutality, it In fact, no religion

:48:16. > :48:20.teaches about brutality He's a survivor of an attack

:48:21. > :48:27.in his home country of Pakistan. Donna from the Anne Frank Trust

:48:28. > :48:31.helps Ahmad get his message He's been in to excess of ten

:48:32. > :48:38.schools just with me. Probably at each reception having

:48:39. > :48:41.400 pupils, seeing him speak He's been brave and courageous as

:48:42. > :48:53.he's able to speak in front of all these people and tell them

:48:54. > :48:57.what he's been through. The people of Lockwood learned that

:48:58. > :48:59.you should appreciate your education here because,

:49:00. > :49:02.if you don't appreciate it, you should think about the people

:49:03. > :49:04.of Pakistan Nelson Mandela said

:49:05. > :49:07.education is the most powerful weapon you can use

:49:08. > :49:14.to change the world. One thing that helps Ahmad

:49:15. > :49:20.focus on his education campaign is remembering the happier

:49:21. > :49:25.times with his brother, Harris, That's my birthday,

:49:26. > :49:31.my dad was giving me The scars of the 16th

:49:32. > :49:44.of December 2014 I have no words to

:49:45. > :49:52.explain that moment. It is a very bad

:49:53. > :49:59.incident and we can't... We want to get off

:50:00. > :50:04.this but we can't. This was specially sent

:50:05. > :50:07.by Theresa May's office, When we can educate them, we can

:50:08. > :50:15.finish the ideology of terrorism. I want this message to be spread

:50:16. > :50:19.throughout the world, as much as I I think I have stopped students

:50:20. > :50:24.from being radicalised and going towards these

:50:25. > :50:30.terrorist activities. I am proud of myself,

:50:31. > :50:34.as I did that by going to schools and

:50:35. > :50:36.talking to children. I think this is a great

:50:37. > :50:42.success for me. I dream of peace, safety

:50:43. > :50:45.and education for every child. I dream no child has

:50:46. > :50:49.feel of being killed I dream of love, peace

:50:50. > :51:07.and harmony in this world. The general election

:51:08. > :51:09.didn't just take the media So some of them are finding

:51:10. > :51:17.new ways to raise money, There've been plenty of scandals

:51:18. > :51:21.in recent years involving politicians and the people

:51:22. > :51:25.they receive money from, so could this be a new way

:51:26. > :51:28.of funding politics, and reducing the influence

:51:29. > :51:32.of big money? Let's talk now to Paul Hilder,

:51:33. > :51:34.founder of a "political matchmaker" website which lets you fund causes

:51:35. > :51:37.close to your heart And joining us is John Mills,

:51:38. > :51:40.a more traditional sort of donor, he gave almost ?2 million

:51:41. > :51:43.to the Labour Party. Bess Mayhew is crowdfunding

:51:44. > :51:45.what she says is a new generation of MPs to fight for a more united

:51:46. > :52:02.Britain. We are joined by all of them now.

:52:03. > :52:07.How many people are actually getting involved in this way? How much

:52:08. > :52:10.activity are you seeing on your sites? We have tens of thousands of

:52:11. > :52:14.people using our site every day to try to find the candidate or party

:52:15. > :52:19.closest to them because you have never had a more volatile moment.

:52:20. > :52:23.Dozens of candidates who are either live crowdfunding on the platform

:52:24. > :52:28.now or talking to us about getting their pages up fast. Dozens of

:52:29. > :52:36.candidates coming forward. Still quite small in terms of the overall

:52:37. > :52:41.picture? Still quite small. The election was only called ten days

:52:42. > :52:48.ago. People have been opening their offices. We have 80,000 supporters

:52:49. > :52:52.so far and have raised a huge chunk of money. It puts us to the top

:52:53. > :52:57.three donors in the hole politics in the UK. That is incredible for those

:52:58. > :53:01.80,000 supporters are going to be selecting candidates we think agree

:53:02. > :53:05.with our values regardless of the party they are from but it is giving

:53:06. > :53:10.people a way to influence politics or do not currently have without

:53:11. > :53:14.having to go through a party route. It is about good people getting into

:53:15. > :53:20.Parliament regardless of the party they are from. You are a traditional

:53:21. > :53:23.kind of donor. You opened your cheque book and wrote a hefty cheque

:53:24. > :53:28.to the Labour Party. What do you think about this way of funding?

:53:29. > :53:35.Whether it will produce enough extra funds to pay the wake of -- pave the

:53:36. > :53:43.way politics is paid for is a question. Last summer I was involved

:53:44. > :53:49.with the campaign in connection with the Brexit vote. We raised about 10%

:53:50. > :53:55.of the total funds deployed out of crowdfunding. It is not enough to

:53:56. > :53:59.change the world. When you look at the United States, which is several

:54:00. > :54:06.steps ahead of us, Bernie Sanders raised $200 million from individual

:54:07. > :54:13.donations. Do think it will go that way here? Or are we not used to it

:54:14. > :54:18.and it will take time to change? We are less used to it than them. I

:54:19. > :54:24.spent time with the Bernie campaign. They raised all their money through

:54:25. > :54:29.small donations he could not have been competitive had that not

:54:30. > :54:37.happened. Trump raised a greater source of his donations from smaller

:54:38. > :54:44.sources than Obama did. We saw the doctor declared against a Republican

:54:45. > :54:47.congressman and she raised half $1 million in two weeks. Then

:54:48. > :54:50.Republican congressmen announced he was standing down. What does this do

:54:51. > :54:56.in terms of empowering people who might not traditionally be going

:54:57. > :55:00.into politics? It is significant. From a more united point of view, we

:55:01. > :55:05.are about people and not parties. We are about getting the best people

:55:06. > :55:11.elected to Parliament, regardless of what party they are from. Most

:55:12. > :55:16.people are turned off by the party system and do not want to sign up

:55:17. > :55:21.lock, stock and barrel will stop if you are told a candidate might be a

:55:22. > :55:25.good person to elect a connection they are electing people who agree

:55:26. > :55:29.with their values rather than putting everything behind one party.

:55:30. > :55:36.People are crying out for something to get involved. They need to be

:55:37. > :55:41.given that confidence that they feel comfortable doing so. Overall, is it

:55:42. > :55:46.a good thing for politics if it does work? I think it does. There has

:55:47. > :55:51.always been huge controversy about how politics should be funded. There

:55:52. > :55:55.are various different ways. You can have donors and parties funded out

:55:56. > :56:01.of taxation, or you can go for things like crowdfunding. There are

:56:02. > :56:06.disadvantages with all of these. There is a lot of logic in a way

:56:07. > :56:10.about having parties funded partly by taxation. There is a huge amount

:56:11. > :56:15.of opposition to this. I'm not sure it will happen. Why did you decide

:56:16. > :56:20.to give a large sum of money to a political party? People think, is it

:56:21. > :56:25.for influence, for prestige? What is it? I have been involved with the

:56:26. > :56:29.Labour Party for years and years. I have been lucky enough to build up a

:56:30. > :56:34.business that has been successful. I thought that was a way to pay back

:56:35. > :56:48.some of the debts built up over the years. Possibly to gain influence.

:56:49. > :56:56.It was relatively Netherlands. A lot of big donors do have benevolent

:56:57. > :57:01.principles. -- benevolence. Labour is partly funded by its membership,

:57:02. > :57:04.which is good, but also by the unions. The Conservative Party

:57:05. > :57:08.historically over the past five years has primarily been funded by

:57:09. > :57:14.hedge fund is. I think it is possible to make the case that a lot

:57:15. > :57:17.of the existing institutions in politics and the parties are

:57:18. > :57:23.slightly rotting and slightly broken in terms of how they operate. What

:57:24. > :57:27.we are trying to do is to provide an open platform where you can do it in

:57:28. > :57:33.a different way. One thing you can do is nominate anybody you think

:57:34. > :57:37.should have a particular office. If you want them to be your local

:57:38. > :57:42.Labour MP, though Ukip MP, or whatever. You can nominate them on

:57:43. > :57:48.our side and start gathering pledges of support for them before they have

:57:49. > :57:52.agreed to be a candidate. What crowdfunding lets you do is replace

:57:53. > :57:56.that big money with little money. My ?5 quite your ?10, it all adds up

:57:57. > :58:00.together for them if enough people do it they can start to make a

:58:01. > :58:06.difference. I agree with that. It does balance things out a bit. That

:58:07. > :58:09.is a very helpful development. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.

:58:10. > :58:13.Coming up in around an hour on the BBC News Channel...

:58:14. > :58:15.We'll be putting your questions to the Ukip leader Paul Nuttall.

:58:16. > :58:18.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This

:58:19. > :58:22.or text your questions to 61124 and you can email us as well

:58:23. > :58:32.I will see very soon. Have a lovely weekend. Goodbye.