24/05/2017

:00:08. > :00:22.Troops are to be deployed at key locations and events

:00:23. > :00:25.after the official terror threat was raised to the highest level

:00:26. > :00:33.This means that their assessment is not only that an attack remains

:00:34. > :00:35.remains highly likely, but that a further

:00:36. > :00:41.The Home Secretary Amber Rudd says it seems highly

:00:42. > :00:43.likely that the bomber, 22-year-old Salman Abedi,

:00:44. > :00:48.It's thought that he may have visited Libya very recently

:00:49. > :00:57.It is somebody who they had known before and I'm sure when this

:00:58. > :01:02.investigation concludes we will be able to find out more.

:01:03. > :01:04.The mother of a 15-year-old girl who'd been missing

:01:05. > :01:07.since the explosion has revealed on Facebook that she was

:01:08. > :01:12.Olivia Campbell's family had made desperate appeals

:01:13. > :01:45.French Interior Minister said that the Manchester bomber Salman Abedi

:01:46. > :01:51.is believed to have been travelled to Syria and had proven links with

:01:52. > :01:56.so-called Islamic State. This from the French Interior Minister. He

:01:57. > :02:01.said that the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, is believed to have

:02:02. > :02:09.travelled to Syria and had, "Proven links with the Islamic state terror

:02:10. > :02:14.group." Good morning from Manchester. It's a

:02:15. > :02:18.cool, grey morning and this is a city that's still grieving, clearly.

:02:19. > :02:23.A city that's still in shock. So many people have said to me, they

:02:24. > :02:26.still cannot believe it happened. Let me tell you where we're

:02:27. > :02:29.broadcasting from this morning. We're in Albert Square. It is in the

:02:30. > :02:34.centre of Manchester, the heart of the city. We're in front of the town

:02:35. > :02:39.hall and in this square which is where the vigil was held last night,

:02:40. > :02:43.collections of flowers have sprung up. This is at the bottom of a

:02:44. > :02:48.statue of a former Bishop of Manchester from the 19th century

:02:49. > :02:53.James Frazer, but as you can see messages of sympathy, of condolence,

:02:54. > :02:59.of solidarity actually to those who lost their lives in this city on

:03:00. > :03:03.Monday night. With love from your Scouse, mates, Rob and Jess. There

:03:04. > :03:08.is a light that never goes out. Underneath that, we will not be

:03:09. > :03:14.divided, we will remain united. Prayers and love from Manchester's

:03:15. > :03:20.Syrian community. You can see a Manchester United scarf there. Over

:03:21. > :03:25.here we have got a poster which says love overcomes hate. And that really

:03:26. > :03:30.was the message from the vigil here last night. A hot evening when

:03:31. > :03:35.thousands of people filled this square. Thousands and thousands of

:03:36. > :03:40.people and the Bishop of Manchester spoke and the Chief Constable of

:03:41. > :03:46.Greater Manchester Police spoke in very moving terms about the city

:03:47. > :03:51.coming together and how what had happened on Monday night would not

:03:52. > :03:55.divide the communities of this city. There was huge and heartfelt and

:03:56. > :03:58.grateful applause for the emergency services, the Chief Constable, Ian

:03:59. > :04:04.Hopkins saying, "I thank you from the bottom of my heart and your

:04:05. > :04:09.support means so much to my staff and all emergency services

:04:10. > :04:14.personnel." There were tears through the minute's silence. And I have

:04:15. > :04:19.seen on social media some people saying, "Well how does lighting a

:04:20. > :04:25.candle stop the bombs?" I talked to various people here last night. They

:04:26. > :04:28.said it makes you feel like we're doing something however futile the

:04:29. > :04:33.gesture of coming together might be, it makes us feel like we're

:04:34. > :04:37.supporting the relatives of those who were killed on Monday night.

:04:38. > :04:44.The moment that really resonated with the crowd here last night was

:04:45. > :04:49.when Manchester Poet Tony Walsh, who is also known as Long Fella

:04:50. > :04:54.performed his poem This Is The Place. .

:04:55. > :04:56.This is the place in the North West of England

:04:57. > :04:59.It's ace, it's the best and the songs that we sing

:05:00. > :05:01.From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking

:05:02. > :05:07.There's nowt we can't make and

:05:08. > :05:17.We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands

:05:18. > :05:19.And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton

:05:20. > :05:22.And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten

:05:23. > :05:25.And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome

:05:26. > :05:27.And we make summat happen, we can't seem to help it

:05:28. > :05:30.And if you're looking for history then yes, we've a wealth

:05:31. > :05:32.But the Manchester way is to make it yourself

:05:33. > :05:35.And make us a record, a new number one

:05:36. > :05:37.And make us a brew while you're up, love.

:05:38. > :05:45.And make us feel proud that you're winning the league

:05:46. > :05:47.And make us sing louder and make us believe it

:05:48. > :05:50.that this is the place that has helped shape the world

:05:51. > :05:52.And that this the place where a Manchester girl

:05:53. > :06:15.Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride

:06:16. > :06:17.And this is the place with appliance of science

:06:18. > :06:21.We're on it, atomic, we strut with defiance

:06:22. > :06:24.In the face of a challenge we always stand tall

:06:25. > :06:27.Mancunians in union delivered it all

:06:28. > :06:30.Such as housing and libraries, and health, education

:06:31. > :06:33.And unions and co-ops, the first railway station

:06:34. > :06:54.But we hope you forgive us - we invented computers!

:06:55. > :06:59.And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls

:07:00. > :07:05.And we've rocked and we've rolled with our own Northern Soul

:07:06. > :07:09.And so this is the place to do business, then dance

:07:10. > :07:13.Where go-getters and goal setters know they've a chance

:07:14. > :07:16.And this is the place where we first played as kids

:07:17. > :07:27.And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did

:07:28. > :07:30.And this is the place where our folks came to work

:07:31. > :07:32.Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt

:07:33. > :07:42.And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound

:07:43. > :07:44.Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves

:07:45. > :07:47.They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves

:07:48. > :07:52.And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe

:07:53. > :07:54.That Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive

:07:55. > :07:59.And to work and to build, to connect and create and

:08:00. > :08:05.Greater Manchester's greatness is keeping it great

:08:06. > :08:08.And so this is the place now we've kids of our own

:08:09. > :08:11.Some are born here, some drawn here, but we all call it home

:08:12. > :08:14.And they've covered the cobbles, but they'll never defeat

:08:15. > :08:16.All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets

:08:17. > :08:21.Because this is a place that has been through some hard times

:08:22. > :08:25.Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times

:08:26. > :08:28.But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit

:08:29. > :08:31.Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester's lyrics

:08:32. > :08:44.And there's hard times again in these streets of our city

:08:45. > :08:52.But we won't take defeat and we don't want your pity

:08:53. > :08:56.Because this a place where we stand strong together

:08:57. > :08:59.With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever

:09:00. > :09:02.Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes

:09:03. > :09:05.Because this is the place that's a part of our bones

:09:06. > :09:10.Because Manchester gives us such strength from the fact

:09:11. > :10:13.It was incredibly moving and you heard the applause for Tony Walsh.

:10:14. > :10:19.We'll talk to him after 10am here in Albert Square. You can see behind me

:10:20. > :10:23.possibly people stopping to look at the tributes as they go about their

:10:24. > :10:31.daily business, but mostly in the square, it's journalists from all

:10:32. > :10:37.over the world, television trucks, and reporters from everywhere to be

:10:38. > :10:46.honest. We're going to talk now to Phil and Kim Dick.

:10:47. > :10:53.They were listening to Tony Walsh. Kim and Phil were waiting in the

:10:54. > :10:54.foyer of Manchester Arena for their daughter and granddaughter who had

:10:55. > :11:02.been at the concert on Monday night. Phil and Kim, good morning to you.

:11:03. > :11:06.Good morning. The bomb went off yards from where you were standing

:11:07. > :11:10.as you were waiting for your daughter and granddaughter. What do

:11:11. > :11:20.you recall about what you saw and what you heard? It was just... We

:11:21. > :11:26.were laughing and waiting for our children to come out, all happy to

:11:27. > :11:31.tell us about the concert and there was just an almighty bang. There was

:11:32. > :11:38.a flash and then an almighty bang. And then... And everything changed

:11:39. > :11:46.then. Everything changed. We were thrown to the floor. People were,

:11:47. > :11:54.there was rubble in the air. There was ash. It was like an ash snow

:11:55. > :12:00.falling and smoke. We got up. Our automatic, we got up and we realised

:12:01. > :12:07.the bomb had gun off, but we thought it had gone off in the arena. We

:12:08. > :12:12.thought we got the backlash and we just panicked and I just started

:12:13. > :12:19.screaming, "My babies are in there. My babies are in there." There was

:12:20. > :12:24.bodies everywhere. It was in chaos and... It was awful. It was awful.

:12:25. > :12:32.There was an eerie silence and wailing and crying and people just,

:12:33. > :12:41.people were going, I don't know. It was quite confusing the first second

:12:42. > :12:47.or two. Astonishly you weren't injured, I understand it, you were

:12:48. > :12:55.therefore able to help? Yes. You were able to help. One 14-year-old

:12:56. > :12:59.girl, is that right? Just staggering towards me. There was nobody with

:13:00. > :13:03.her. She was staggering towards me and I just went forward to her to

:13:04. > :13:07.hold her because I thought she was going to fall over. I grabbed her

:13:08. > :13:13.and held her. There was blood coming out of her mouth and down her arm

:13:14. > :13:19.and leg. Her hair was all burnt on her head and her face and blood

:13:20. > :13:24.coming out of her mouth. There was a plastic bag that was burnt into her

:13:25. > :13:36.hair. I just held her and I was going, "My babies. My babies." We

:13:37. > :13:41.got her out to foyer and out through the doors and on to the walkway. I

:13:42. > :13:48.said, "You look after this little girl. I'll go and find the girls,

:13:49. > :13:54.our daughter and granddaughter." So I took her out of the foyer or I was

:13:55. > :13:58.trying to get her out of the foyer doors and her legs just gave me and

:13:59. > :14:07.I dragged her out through the doors to get to lean against a wall. I

:14:08. > :14:12.laid her down and that's when the blood was coming out of her mouth. I

:14:13. > :14:16.thought I better lift her up. I lifted her up and dragged her

:14:17. > :14:21.against the wall and slumped her against the wall. I was trying to

:14:22. > :14:25.keep her you and there was blood pouring out. People were just

:14:26. > :14:33.running around and I was just screaming, "My babies, my babies in

:14:34. > :14:41.there." ." The girls were saying, "I'm OK. It's this little girl." I

:14:42. > :14:50.just had to keep her, I don't know, alive. There was confusion. Another

:14:51. > :14:54.little girl came walking, staggering everywhere with blood on her leg.

:14:55. > :15:00.She was crying for her mum. I couldn't reach her and I was holding

:15:01. > :15:05.the little girl up and telling them help is coming. The ambulance is

:15:06. > :15:09.coming and just be brave. You're being really brave. And my husband

:15:10. > :15:18.was running backwards and forwards. I went back into see if our daughter

:15:19. > :15:23.and granddaughter were there. It was the time we were due to meet them. I

:15:24. > :15:29.went back into check if they were amongst the injured. So I checked

:15:30. > :15:35.every single person there, to see if it was our daughter, grand daughter.

:15:36. > :15:40.And thankfully for us, it wasn't. They weren't there. As my wife said,

:15:41. > :15:48.we thought the blast was in the arena. And we had caught the

:15:49. > :15:52.outskirts of it. But I went through the security doors where they check

:15:53. > :16:00.tickets, and that is when I saw there was no debris, and ash, and

:16:01. > :16:07.things through there. There was only what I believe to be the remains of

:16:08. > :16:16.the suicide bomber through there. All the destruction was out in the

:16:17. > :16:23.foyer. I had not seen my daughter or granddaughter amongst the injured.

:16:24. > :16:31.And I came back and told my wife. Me, I was trying to comfort this

:16:32. > :16:37.little girl, I don't know if I should say her name. We tried to

:16:38. > :16:41.keep her away, kept trying to close her eyes. I told her she was brave,

:16:42. > :16:49.asking her name and who was coming for her, asking for her dad's name,

:16:50. > :16:56.telling her she was brave. And the other little girl opposite, she was

:16:57. > :17:00.crying and crying. She was shaking. She was trying to ring her mum and

:17:01. > :17:05.her phone kept falling out of her hand. She talked to her mum, and was

:17:06. > :17:09.crying, I kept telling her she was brave, I am not going to leave you,

:17:10. > :17:21.trying to comfort her the best I could. Everybody laid there,

:17:22. > :17:27.people... She was able, she managed to give you her mum's phone number

:17:28. > :17:32.so you could make contact, and you eventually got through to your own

:17:33. > :17:41.daughter on the phone, didn't you. And me. It was around 20 minutes, I

:17:42. > :17:46.was praying my daughter was alive, praying for the injured. I didn't

:17:47. > :17:52.know they were dead, but I hoped it would all be OK. I was trying not to

:17:53. > :17:56.be too hysterical, trying to keep this girl comforted, and the other

:17:57. > :18:03.one. You kept coming back and forth, didn't you, and a mum was in shock,

:18:04. > :18:09.wandering around. I told her to sit down next to me. She flopped down

:18:10. > :18:17.and started crying and crying. The staff in the arena were fantastic.

:18:18. > :18:20.There was no Anderlecht or paramedics at that moment, just a

:18:21. > :18:27.couple of paramedics on duty for the event, and the security staff. They

:18:28. > :18:35.had bandages. First aid kits and bandages. Making sure the

:18:36. > :18:42.compression dresses for the young girls, most obviously, for the worst

:18:43. > :18:48.wounds, and kept on applying pressure. The blood was pouring. I

:18:49. > :18:52.kept telling her, we needed an ambulance, we needed help, she was

:18:53. > :18:58.losing too much blood. The other girl opposite, on her leg as well.

:18:59. > :19:07.Then the police came. Then the armed police. But my daughter ran... I got

:19:08. > :19:12.one hand, I was holding the girl up with one hand, I grabbed my phone,

:19:13. > :19:16.and spoke to my daughter, and I was so relieved. I asked if Sasha was

:19:17. > :19:21.with her, she said yeah. You were trying to get in the arena, but they

:19:22. > :19:29.stop people coming out, and they came out of another door. She was

:19:30. > :19:35.alive, thank God, then I tried to concentrate on this little girl. The

:19:36. > :19:42.other one opposite me, and it seemed like a lifetime before the

:19:43. > :19:50.paramedics came. But the armed police whispered that we needed to

:19:51. > :19:55.check that there were no bombs before sending them up. They were

:19:56. > :20:04.all outside waiting. But what you did, what you both did, was

:20:05. > :20:15.remarkable. Thank you. It doesn't feel remarkable. People needed help.

:20:16. > :20:20.The event security, they were remarkable. They were helping as

:20:21. > :20:26.many people as they could. All we had were little first aid kits. But

:20:27. > :20:30.they were making sure they were near every single person that was

:20:31. > :20:35.injured. We were all looking in. I have seen the pictures online of the

:20:36. > :20:41.homeless guy that was helping people. He was there, he was running

:20:42. > :20:48.round to lots of people. He was offering help and comfort to

:20:49. > :20:53.everybody. He was a hero. The event security staff were heroes. There

:20:54. > :20:59.were a lot of heroes that day, but I don't... We don't feel like heroes.

:21:00. > :21:08.We did what any parent would do. People needed help, and you step in

:21:09. > :21:13.and step up, don't you? I am grateful you spoke to us this

:21:14. > :21:24.morning. Sorry, Kim, go ahead. It seemed like a lifetime before the

:21:25. > :21:30.paramedics could come in... We put a little girl on the merchandise

:21:31. > :21:39.table, I knew her bones were broken, her legs and arms... She was in so

:21:40. > :21:43.much pain. We were able to ring her mum, she told us her number, and we

:21:44. > :21:48.let her know that her daughter was alive. We managed through that to

:21:49. > :21:53.get in touch with the dad, and got her reunited with her dad. We kept

:21:54. > :22:00.telling her that her dad was coming. I said I wouldn't leave her,

:22:01. > :22:12.constantly reassuring her, the little girl. That is all I could do.

:22:13. > :22:18.OK, Kim. Thank you. Think you so much for talking to us this morning.

:22:19. > :22:22.We can clearly hear the distress and shock still in the way you describe

:22:23. > :22:34.what you did on Monday night, so we are very grateful to you this

:22:35. > :22:41.morning. Thank you. Phil and Kim Dyk talking about how their daughter and

:22:42. > :22:47.granddaughter were safe. We know a further attack may be imminent.

:22:48. > :22:51.last night when she explained why the independent Joint Terrorism

:22:52. > :22:55.Analysis Centre, J-TAC, had decided to raise the terror

:22:56. > :22:57.threat level to "Critical", the highest possible.

:22:58. > :23:01.We can speak now to Baroness Neville-Jones,

:23:02. > :23:04.the former security minister, Dr David Lowe, a counter terror

:23:05. > :23:07.and security expert from Liverpool's John Moores University,

:23:08. > :23:13.and Sir Chris Fox, the former President of the Association

:23:14. > :23:19.of Chief Police Officers, who orchestrated the police response

:23:20. > :23:22.to the 7/7 tube bombings back in London in 2005, and Hamed El-Said

:23:23. > :23:25.who chaired a UN taskforce on terrorism and radicalisation and

:23:26. > :23:29.now works at Manchester Metropolitan University.

:23:30. > :23:39.Good morning to you. Come in, as a former security minister, what is

:23:40. > :23:45.your reaction to the fact that the terror threat level has been raised

:23:46. > :23:50.to critical? What the government has done is pretty justified. As I read

:23:51. > :23:53.the situation, I don't have inside knowledge, but as I read it the

:23:54. > :23:58.problem is that they have a knowledge gap about where and who

:23:59. > :24:02.the bomber is, whether he is still at large, and whether he is in the

:24:03. > :24:11.country. I think they feel they cannot take the risk of not being

:24:12. > :24:16.ready, and putting in place sufficient protection against

:24:17. > :24:20.further attacks. These situations don't normally last very long, but

:24:21. > :24:24.clearly, it is a very critical stage in their interest and is. And they

:24:25. > :24:33.feel they must give proper coverage to any eventuality. Sir Chris Hoy

:24:34. > :24:41.Ochs, is it proportionate? I think so. It is a vile attack -- Sir Chris

:24:42. > :24:45.Foxx. They will visit all the premises and houses they have been

:24:46. > :24:50.involved in, and presumably find material that makes them wonder

:24:51. > :24:54.whether or not this guy was acting alone. That on its own, until that

:24:55. > :25:03.question is answered, then we have got to be very, very, very careful.

:25:04. > :25:09.You lead a task force on radicalisation, what... You had to

:25:10. > :25:14.learn, you have to try to understand what would radicalise someone to do

:25:15. > :25:20.this, to target British children and teenagers in this way? How would you

:25:21. > :25:23.answer that? Well, it is absolutely very painful and absolutely

:25:24. > :25:26.unacceptable what happened two nights ago. I was pleased to see

:25:27. > :25:32.last night everybody coming together to reject this the northern and

:25:33. > :25:39.forced but we -- reject this phenomenal.

:25:40. > :25:47.Give us an insight into what you have learned. We know, for example,

:25:48. > :25:53.this is the fourth wave of terrorism we have faced since the 1980s in

:25:54. > :25:58.Europe. This has been mostly made up of very young individuals coming

:25:59. > :26:02.from a subculture of hopelessness and no future. They are troubled in

:26:03. > :26:07.life, and they are troubling for their families as well. What we know

:26:08. > :26:11.about this man so far, and it is obviously early stages, he was born

:26:12. > :26:16.in Manchester, raised in this country, he was a student, he was

:26:17. > :26:21.reportedly a Manchester United supporter. Correct, that's what we

:26:22. > :26:24.know. What we don't know is he was a bad student, he had a bad

:26:25. > :26:29.relationship with his family as well. I spoke to a close family

:26:30. > :26:33.friend yesterday. He literally told me his parents were trying very,

:26:34. > :26:38.very hard to bring him back on the right path, and they failed to do

:26:39. > :26:42.that. Eventually, he was doing very bad at university, at his education,

:26:43. > :26:47.he didn't complete. They tried to take him back to Libya. He had

:26:48. > :26:52.difficulties adjusting to European lifestyle. Yes, he was born here,

:26:53. > :26:54.but he comes from a second generation of immigrants. This

:26:55. > :26:59.particular type of individual as we now know, they have the most

:27:00. > :27:06.difficulties in adjusting to Western lifestyles. The prime ministers said

:27:07. > :27:10.the latest intelligence assessments concluded "It is a possibility we

:27:11. > :27:16.cannot ignore that there is a wider group of individuals linked to this

:27:17. > :27:23.attacker." How do you respond to that? I have to take it at face

:27:24. > :27:29.value. Indeed, the evidence seems to show that the explosives, and the

:27:30. > :27:33.way the bomb was built were fairly professional, not an amateur affair

:27:34. > :27:38.this time. You therefore can't exclude that there are active

:27:39. > :27:42.accomplices, and indeed, the person that made the bomb is still at

:27:43. > :27:48.large. There may be a further link to other organisations, other

:27:49. > :27:54.networks through those people. We may be chasing something which in

:27:55. > :27:57.the end turns out to be fairly small, but it is fairly possible

:27:58. > :28:00.that this can open up a much bigger network as a result of

:28:01. > :28:05.investigation. That is what the intelligence services don't know at

:28:06. > :28:10.the moment, which is why they are being so very cautious about the

:28:11. > :28:18.level of protection they give us. I know you had to leave us, thank you

:28:19. > :28:24.for your time. David Lowe, from what we have learned about the individual

:28:25. > :28:28.that carried out the attack on Monday night, and the kind of

:28:29. > :28:34.explosive device that he used, what do you draw from that? I am echoing

:28:35. > :28:38.what the Baroness said there. Clearly, there is a level of

:28:39. > :28:42.sophistication here, and it looks like it is coming out that he may

:28:43. > :28:50.not have been acting on his own. You look at this type of attack, and

:28:51. > :28:53.that has those echoes. But you know, the right thing is happening here

:28:54. > :28:58.with this investigation, it is keeping all options open. And we

:28:59. > :29:02.won't have gone to critical for no reason at all. It was emphasised in

:29:03. > :29:08.your report earlier when you mentioned that JTAC have advised

:29:09. > :29:14.that we go to this level. There must be information that they are looking

:29:15. > :29:23.at for that individual, and there is a great threat at the moment. Sir

:29:24. > :29:28.Chris, we can expect to see soldiers now, potentially, at big stadium,

:29:29. > :29:31.concerts, football matches, we have the FA Cup final, the Champions

:29:32. > :29:36.League final next week, the Championship play-offs, Sunday and

:29:37. > :29:44.Monday, and so on, how alarmed should the British public the? --

:29:45. > :29:48.should the British public be. There is a difference between being

:29:49. > :29:51.alarmed and being vigilant. We have gone to this level, because

:29:52. > :29:55.information when investigating something like this doesn't flow out

:29:56. > :30:01.instantly, it comes out slowly as you may contact with associates, and

:30:02. > :30:04.you learn more about it. At the moment, there are questions that

:30:05. > :30:12.aren't able to be answered. Therefore, the extra security is to

:30:13. > :30:17.make people feel secure. You have to play your part as well, when you

:30:18. > :30:20.attend these events, be aware, be alert, and if necessary, speak to

:30:21. > :30:21.uniformed member of the security teams about anything that worries

:30:22. > :30:34.you. You will know that her majesty's

:30:35. > :30:38.Inspectorate of Constabulary in said in March policing in England and

:30:39. > :30:42.Wales is in a perilous state after 20% budget cuts to police norsz

:30:43. > :30:49.England and Wales since 2010 -- forces in eng England and Wales

:30:50. > :30:52.since 2010. Do the cuts make police forces more vulnerable, less able to

:30:53. > :31:00.prevent and thwart attacks like this? Let's be honest, it's almost

:31:01. > :31:06.impossible to completely rule out an attack like this in a free modern,

:31:07. > :31:10.free, European world where people move about in the way that they do.

:31:11. > :31:15.The problem with policing at the moment the world is becoming so

:31:16. > :31:18.specialised, technology is changing the whole world of crime and

:31:19. > :31:23.terrorism as is the use of weapons. So the police are now having to have

:31:24. > :31:28.lots and lots of specialised officers which is very, very

:31:29. > :31:32.resource consuming. It consumes lots of money and lots of individuals. So

:31:33. > :31:40.my guess is now, having to respond to this type of crime and terrorism,

:31:41. > :31:44.that they are getting very stretched. People wouldn't have

:31:45. > :31:48.realised how many police officers are involved in this event in

:31:49. > :31:52.Manchester at the moment, but the world goes on and they are trying to

:31:53. > :31:59.deal with the other things they normally deal with. My guess is life

:32:00. > :32:05.is a very, very thin line. David Lowe, you will know that it's

:32:06. > :32:10.reported that the suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, had returned recently

:32:11. > :32:16.from Libya. It's understood that his parents are from Libya. What is the

:32:17. > :32:20.significance of that if it's true? Well, if he has been travelling to

:32:21. > :32:24.Libya, we are well aware since the fall of Gaddafi it has been an

:32:25. > :32:28.unstable state. We know there are various factions who have been

:32:29. > :32:34.fighting a civil war there including Islamic State and they've lost some

:32:35. > :32:39.major territory in the region a few months ago, but I think this also

:32:40. > :32:44.looks at what potential there is for trying to help individuals like

:32:45. > :32:48.this. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I'm thinking about the Prevent

:32:49. > :32:57.strategy and it shows how difficult this problem is, but you know, we

:32:58. > :33:01.have to try our best to try so individuals don't get as far as the

:33:02. > :33:08.attacker got on Monday to try and draw them back and I think greater

:33:09. > :33:17.support is needed for T it has got its problems because it came to do

:33:18. > :33:25.with violent extremism. It is all forms of extremism including the

:33:26. > :33:29.far-right. I think the Government has got to start looking at trying

:33:30. > :33:33.to support those involved in Prevent, to try and help individuals

:33:34. > :33:38.before they get to the stage that we saw on Monday. Thank you all of you,

:33:39. > :33:43.thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it. Good morning.

:33:44. > :33:49.We're broadcasting to you from Manchester. The Manchester Arena,

:33:50. > :33:53.scene of the UK's worst terror attack since 2005 remains behind a

:33:54. > :33:57.police cordon as you'd expect this morning as the investigation

:33:58. > :34:02.continues. Nearby, this square, around the town hall has become a

:34:03. > :34:06.focus, although not the only focus for people wanting to commemorate

:34:07. > :34:08.what happened. Here is a look back at some of the events since the

:34:09. > :34:19.attack on Monday. After our darkest of nights,

:34:20. > :34:23.Manchester is today waking up This has been the most horrific

:34:24. > :34:30.incident that we've ever faced here in Greater Manchester,

:34:31. > :34:32.and one that we all hoped But this attack stands out,

:34:33. > :34:46.for it's appalling, Deliberately targeting

:34:47. > :34:54.innocent, defenceless children and young people,

:34:55. > :34:58.who should have been enjoying one of the most memorable

:34:59. > :35:02.nights of their lives. But when I think of Manchester,

:35:03. > :35:05.the place that I know, I think of the spirit of the people

:35:06. > :35:09.there - and I'm telling you, a more tight-knit group of people

:35:10. > :35:29.you would be hard-pressed to find. The audience was a very

:35:30. > :35:50.young audience, and there were a lot of people

:35:51. > :35:54.there without their parents, people were requesting

:35:55. > :35:56.that they could get taxis It was at that point I made

:35:57. > :36:03.the decision that money isn't everything in life,

:36:04. > :36:05.and we're part of Manchester and we need to do our part to make

:36:06. > :36:58.sure that these people get home Well, we can talk now to our

:36:59. > :37:02.assistant political editor, Norman Smith who is at Downing Street where

:37:03. > :37:10.a Cobra meeting is taking place right now, Norman. At the Cabinet

:37:11. > :37:14.Office, do fill us in. This is the third Cobra meeting in

:37:15. > :37:19.just 24 hours to be chaired by the Prime Minister. We are getting more

:37:20. > :37:24.details this morning as the meeting begins of some of the key lines of

:37:25. > :37:27.inquiry and I suppose the top line is that the Government is now

:37:28. > :37:31.working on the basis that Salman Abedi was not working on his own.

:37:32. > :37:34.The big question mark is whether he was part of some broader terror

:37:35. > :37:39.network, what sort of help he had, is there a bomb maker out there who

:37:40. > :37:43.helped him construct what officials are describing as a relatively

:37:44. > :37:48.sophisticated device? In other words they do not believe that Abedi was

:37:49. > :37:52.able to make this bomb on his own. They think there are other people

:37:53. > :37:57.out there who may have helped him construct it. We know now that

:37:58. > :38:01.something like 4,000 troops will be made avable to buttress the police.

:38:02. > :38:05.Now they will be at key installations. I'm told we shouldn't

:38:06. > :38:10.expect to see hem in Whitehall and Westminster, more likely they will

:38:11. > :38:13.be at key events and key installations, nuclear power

:38:14. > :38:16.stations, energy plants, transport links, those sort of things. The

:38:17. > :38:21.thinking being to release the police who normally guard those sort of

:38:22. > :38:25.situations so they can focus on the counter-terrorism operation. We also

:38:26. > :38:31.learn of what sounds like quite a tense conversation between the Home

:38:32. > :38:33.Secretary Amber Rudd and her US counterparts after crucial

:38:34. > :38:39.information about the investigation was leaked to the media in the

:38:40. > :38:42.United States. Amber Rudd got on the blower to US officials and gave them

:38:43. > :38:47.a piece of her mind. Officials say they are in no doubt about our views

:38:48. > :38:51.on that. She is publicly described it as irritating. The concern that

:38:52. > :38:54.it might compromise or have compromised aspects of the

:38:55. > :38:58.investigation here if it alerted associates of Abedi that the

:38:59. > :39:03.security forces here knew who they were looking for. We also learn that

:39:04. > :39:09.the election, the restart of the election I'm told, may well be put

:39:10. > :39:14.off for "Several days." That is because the alert level has gone

:39:15. > :39:18.from severe to critical. We now will have troops deployed and while there

:39:19. > :39:21.is an on going terrorist investigation trying to wrap up a

:39:22. > :39:25.potential terror network I think the view is the prospects of the

:39:26. > :39:29.election starting soon are receding so that goes back, I would imagine,

:39:30. > :39:35.at least to the weekend. So there is a number of new lines emerging from

:39:36. > :39:39.this meeting taking place behind me. And lastly, we learned that the

:39:40. > :39:43.Government is going to bolster the so-called Prevent strategy. This is

:39:44. > :39:49.the antiradicalisation strategy giving more resources to those

:39:50. > :39:54.Muslim groups, focussed against radicalism, support from local

:39:55. > :39:58.authorities, taking down from websites inflammatory material and

:39:59. > :40:01.that sort of thing but it has been hugely controversial Prevent because

:40:02. > :40:06.there is a view, far from helping the situation, it made it worse by

:40:07. > :40:09.alienating some sections of the Muslim community. Amber Rudd this

:40:10. > :40:13.morning insistent more resources will be put in, but just listen to

:40:14. > :40:18.what Ms Rudd was saying this morning. Critical is the new level

:40:19. > :40:22.of threat. It means that we think an attack is imminent. We have been at

:40:23. > :40:26.severe for the past few years which means an attack is highly likely.

:40:27. > :40:30.It's a specific response to the events that we have seen in

:40:31. > :40:35.Manchester. We will stay at that level until we are confident that

:40:36. > :40:39.the operation has been concluded and then the threat level can reasonably

:40:40. > :40:43.come douvenlt one of the things the public will see potentially,

:40:44. > :40:47.depending on where they live, is that through Operation Temperer this

:40:48. > :40:51.now allows the police to access support from the military. So they

:40:52. > :40:58.may see certain amounts of military presence which will be in areas to

:40:59. > :41:01.keep them safe. The Home Secretary said she did not

:41:02. > :41:04.believe there was a need for additional laws, additional powers

:41:05. > :41:08.of scrutiny for the Security Services, but as I say the Pre vent

:41:09. > :41:12.strategy will be bolstered and that is controversial, not least, because

:41:13. > :41:16.the Labour Party has committed in its manifesto to fundamental review

:41:17. > :41:20.of Pre vent strategy and Jeremy Corbyn has been highly, highly

:41:21. > :41:24.critical of it. Thank you very much, Norman Smith

:41:25. > :41:27.for the moment. Albetter square in Central

:41:28. > :41:32.Manchester where we are this morning in the heart of the city. This is a

:41:33. > :41:38.square that frankly at the moment is filled with media from all over the

:41:39. > :41:42.world, although there are small collections of flowers where

:41:43. > :41:49.residents, workers, commuters, people who attended the vigil here

:41:50. > :41:53.last night have left them here, have left messages, messages including

:41:54. > :41:59.# Tag more in common. Messages including stay strong. I saw one

:42:00. > :42:05.cardboard, hand-made cardboard poster that said, "Isis, you don't

:42:06. > :42:09.scare us, we're manks." One very moving message, one card said, "To

:42:10. > :42:22.all the angels heaven has gained. May you rest up there while we fight

:42:23. > :42:24.through this pain." In St Ann's Square, people were lighting candles

:42:25. > :42:32.and laying flowers there last night. A Simple Minds concert went ahead

:42:33. > :42:35.here in Manchester last night, with frontman Jim Kerr

:42:36. > :42:37.saying that cancelling Every night at this time, we welcome

:42:38. > :43:11.people and we say thanks for coming But tonight, obviously,

:43:12. > :43:19.is different. Events last night made

:43:20. > :43:23.it so - tragically so. This morning, when we woke,

:43:24. > :43:28.there was a decision to be made. Do we play?

:43:29. > :43:35.Or do we cancel, leave town? And I'm sure if we had done that,

:43:36. > :43:37.everyone would have understood. There would have been

:43:38. > :43:40.a disappointment, but we would have We would have felt cowardly,

:43:41. > :43:44.just leaving town. Especially Manchester,

:43:45. > :43:46.a place that has been great to Simple Minds,

:43:47. > :43:51.since the earliest days. Thanks very much for coming

:43:52. > :43:54.to see us, but prior to starting, of course, of course,

:43:55. > :44:02.we just want to take one minute. Meditate, we'll play a bit of music

:44:03. > :44:05.and think of the victims of last Simple Minds, Jim Kerr at the

:44:06. > :44:55.Bridgwater Hall last night. I want to ask you how you think

:44:56. > :44:59.Manchester has responded to this attack? Extremely well. The

:45:00. > :45:05.emergency services, I don't think we could have asked for better. And the

:45:06. > :45:08.council stepped in very quickly. Obviously, Government stepped in

:45:09. > :45:09.very quickly. I don't think anything could have been done any better.

:45:10. > :45:20.What would you say? I would say the same. I have a taxi

:45:21. > :45:29.company, we offered free taxis to everybody coming back to South

:45:30. > :45:34.Manchester. We basically got around 157 people free taxis home. I left

:45:35. > :45:39.the office at 5:30 myself, we basically had people saying thank

:45:40. > :45:45.you very much. Everybody was amazed by everybody playing a part in it.

:45:46. > :45:50.What do you say? I echo the same, brilliantly, superbly, Mancunian

:45:51. > :45:54.style. A lot of people have said the spirit of Manchester, I have heard

:45:55. > :45:59.it so many times, I know what that means. Explain to our audience what

:46:00. > :46:07.that means. Our history serves as well. We are coming up to the

:46:08. > :46:15.centenary, the people that have come to join us, my father came from

:46:16. > :46:20.Spain, there are Asian communities, Afro-Caribbean communities, it is

:46:21. > :46:23.the melting point of what we are, and our history going back,

:46:24. > :46:28.historically we have lived through worst times. The normality isn't

:46:29. > :46:34.there, it doesn't by any means feel normal. But social media has been

:46:35. > :46:37.really pertinent. What the lads did with the taxi services, the

:46:38. > :46:44.emergency services, it doesn't surprise me. Manchester has really

:46:45. > :46:49.good services, just about, to see the NHS gets 60 anglers is here was

:46:50. > :46:56.amazing. Social media has been amazing, contacting people I don't

:46:57. > :47:01.know, people looking for parents, addressing people they don't know,

:47:02. > :47:05.if they can come and help, get something they need, that is

:47:06. > :47:11.Mancunian. Not having the gap between saying hello and not saying

:47:12. > :47:16.hello, not because someone had a sign, speaking to medical students

:47:17. > :47:23.away from home, Spanish dude is that said it was worse in Belgium away

:47:24. > :47:29.they responded. You had a friend caught up in Monday night's attack,

:47:30. > :47:32.how is she? How wide and impact does it have on her friends and family?

:47:33. > :47:36.It is shocking, because you never think when you see it in the media,

:47:37. > :47:43.when it happens, you don't truly think it will happen to you or

:47:44. > :47:49.friends you know. She is OK, she had a hole in her leg. But she is out of

:47:50. > :47:55.hospital. It is really, really sad and heartbreaking to see and witness

:47:56. > :47:58.that someone close to you has been through that, and there is nothing

:47:59. > :48:05.you can do about it. You have two show your love and support and be

:48:06. > :48:10.there for them. You work for a charity here in Manchester called

:48:11. > :48:15.Human Appeal, what have you been able to do in terms of helping?

:48:16. > :48:20.First and foremost, I want to extend my condolences and sympathy is of

:48:21. > :48:26.the families bereaved. It is important to understand that Human

:48:27. > :48:30.Appeal, our players are with the family and that is important. In

:48:31. > :48:36.terms of the question, since yesterday, the phone has been

:48:37. > :48:39.ringing, we have galvanised people, there is a fantastic atmosphere,

:48:40. > :48:46.different religions, different ethnicities. We have also started to

:48:47. > :48:50.work raising money, raising ?5,000 for families, we are looking to

:48:51. > :48:58.raise money through BT donate. There is a lot of support and galvanising

:48:59. > :49:01.of people. I was at an event yesterday, at the British Muslim

:49:02. > :49:06.Heritage Centre, 200 people are proximally, and two boys that helped

:49:07. > :49:12.the medical services on the day and the day after, giving food, they

:49:13. > :49:17.started to break down and cry. 23-year-old Muslim Pakistani lads,

:49:18. > :49:23.born and brought up here, and they couldn't stop crying. It hits them

:49:24. > :49:27.so hard. From all backgrounds, to echo what you are saying, what you

:49:28. > :49:32.are saying, in your own community last night, to see the diversity

:49:33. > :49:37.again, and the little ones come to see them holding their arms out, and

:49:38. > :49:41.visibly distraught, there was advice for young people. At the same time,

:49:42. > :49:47.it is a real experience. And to be able to be with them, and for them

:49:48. > :49:58.to express that, and understand it is OK to express themselves. You

:49:59. > :50:00.work at the two Manchester universities. What is the feeling

:50:01. > :50:07.among young people and students there? I echo my brother in offering

:50:08. > :50:14.condolences to the bereaved families. Unfortunately, yesterday,

:50:15. > :50:19.we heard about an attack, a young Muslim student was spat at. With

:50:20. > :50:24.children, it is fear. Young Muslims are fearful. What are they fearful

:50:25. > :50:31.of? They are fearful of reprisal. Yesterday, it was beautiful. The

:50:32. > :50:39.vigil, I was here for it. Mancunian got together, but today, the mood is

:50:40. > :50:43.changing slightly. I have listened to the radio and there is anger.

:50:44. > :50:49.That is normal, it is normal to be angry. Who is the anger towards? My

:50:50. > :50:54.fear it is it is towards the Muslim community. Yesterday, I was

:50:55. > :50:57.surprised. I was happy what Mancunians did. There were arguments

:50:58. > :51:04.in the crowd later on, but everybody came together, it disbursed, but I

:51:05. > :51:10.am fearful of what happens next. This was at 7:30, 8pm. There were

:51:11. > :51:14.arguments about what was happening. Fingers were pointed. That is my

:51:15. > :51:17.fear, what happens next? Where do we go from now? That is the next step.

:51:18. > :51:25.Young people are scared. They are scared. Those of you who were here

:51:26. > :51:34.as well last night for the vigil, a minute's silence, rightly so. The

:51:35. > :51:41.most enormous and heartfelt applause when the Chief Constable said, "My

:51:42. > :51:47.staff will be so comforted by the support that you've shown." It was

:51:48. > :51:56.extraordinary. People should phone up and show support to GMP for their

:51:57. > :52:00.thanks. E-mail them, express gratitude to say, what an amazing

:52:01. > :52:09.response you did. One thing our old Chief const set up many years ago

:52:10. > :52:13.was that we stand together, here at Manchester Town Hall. It was about a

:52:14. > :52:18.very diverse community, we learned about each other's religions and

:52:19. > :52:24.thoughts, and that was set up many years ago and it is still going

:52:25. > :52:27.strong now. We forget the background, we are a diverse

:52:28. > :52:31.community in Manchester. Everybody strives to get on with each other.

:52:32. > :52:36.When an atrocity like this happens, we all stand back in shock. Fingers

:52:37. > :52:44.being pointed, I have a friend that is a travel wrap in Egypt, he is

:52:45. > :52:47.Muslim. The abuse he received from English customers yesterday was

:52:48. > :52:54.absolutely atrocious. To be spat at and sworn at, it's not called for.

:52:55. > :52:58.We need to stand together and be positive together to get the right

:52:59. > :53:05.outcome from this. I will pause there, but thank you to you. I

:53:06. > :53:08.really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you.

:53:09. > :53:12.A birthday present, their first ever concert,

:53:13. > :53:18.a treat with friends, the terror attack here in Manchester

:53:19. > :53:21.which left 22 dead is all the more shocking because it was a deliberate

:53:22. > :53:25.attack against children and young people.

:53:26. > :53:28.CBBC'S Newsround programme has been widely praised for their coverage

:53:29. > :53:32.of the attack and how to talk to children about it.

:53:33. > :53:37.This is a video they produced to help.

:53:38. > :53:39.There has been a serious attack in Manchester.

:53:40. > :53:42.It happened at a concert by singer Ariana Grande.

:53:43. > :53:47.Some people have lost their lives and others have been injured.

:53:48. > :53:50.Many more people came to help, offering those who were there lifts

:53:51. > :53:54.home and places to stay, or just some comfort.

:53:55. > :53:56.When things like this happen, it's totally normal

:53:57. > :54:03.To think things like, "Why did this happen?"

:54:04. > :54:07."Could this happen to my family and my friends?"

:54:08. > :54:12.What's important to remember is that although events

:54:13. > :54:18.like this are very sad, they are also rare.

:54:19. > :54:20.Worrying stories are often in the news because they don't

:54:21. > :54:24.So what should you do if you're feeling sad or anxious?

:54:25. > :54:27.Talk about it - you can speak to your parents,

:54:28. > :54:33.They can reassure you and help you feel better.

:54:34. > :54:35.And remember, when things like this happen, most

:54:36. > :54:53.Professor Rachel Calam is a child trauma psychologist.

:54:54. > :54:56.When it comes to helping them deal with the trauma of this.

:54:57. > :55:01.Jan Artingstall is one of the counsellors victims

:55:02. > :55:04.and families are being referred to, her daughter was caught in the IRA

:55:05. > :55:07.bombing in Manchester when she was 16-years-old.

:55:08. > :55:10.Darren Randle, he's a headteacher

:55:11. > :55:13.from Hollingworth Academy in Rochdale, he's been coordinating

:55:14. > :55:16.counselling for pupils and sessions for teachers and pupils to talk

:55:17. > :55:25.How have you dealt with this at school? We looked at a plan to see

:55:26. > :55:29.how we could look after people, how the staff who are also upset with

:55:30. > :55:33.with what has happened, identifying children at risk, who have been at

:55:34. > :55:38.the concert. We don't have a register of what children do on the

:55:39. > :55:43.Monday night, but we had an assembly to talk about the facts and how

:55:44. > :55:48.people go through that process. Rachel, what is your advice? Really

:55:49. > :55:56.to be very calm with children, to be reassuring. We know it is an event

:55:57. > :56:01.that has created enormous fear, but the actual risk is very low. Parents

:56:02. > :56:05.should be watching and waiting, really. Looking out for changes in

:56:06. > :56:08.their children's behaviour, and really trying to deal with those in

:56:09. > :56:14.a very calm way, listening to what they have to say. What's your advice

:56:15. > :56:20.and what is your own experience? I echo what Rachel said, being very

:56:21. > :56:26.calm, let children talk. They might want to ask the same questions over

:56:27. > :56:29.and over again. And that's OK. Be mindful of the fact that they need a

:56:30. > :56:35.regular routine, they need things to stay the same. It is about giving

:56:36. > :56:39.them space, really. Obviously, they will be very confused and in a state

:56:40. > :56:44.of disbelief. The main question is, my own 10-year old said to me, "An

:56:45. > :56:52.eight-year-old girl has been killed, why?" What is the answer to that

:56:53. > :56:55.question? It is a difficult one. We talked about that before we came on

:56:56. > :56:59.air and we don't know the answer. Is it all right to say we don't know?

:57:00. > :57:03.Absolutely. An autistic child asked me that question and I said there

:57:04. > :57:10.wasn't an answer. Coming back to what you said, it is very, very

:57:11. > :57:13.rare. We emphasised the response to people in terms of what happened, in

:57:14. > :57:16.terms of Manchester pulling together, and communities coming

:57:17. > :57:21.together as opposed to being broken apart. That is one thing we focused

:57:22. > :57:28.on in the day. Your own daughter was caught up in the bombing here 21

:57:29. > :57:31.years ago, astonishingly, no one was killed on that day. The

:57:32. > :57:35.infrastructure of the centre of Manchester was devastated, what age

:57:36. > :57:42.was she then? How did you and she coped with that? She was 15 at the

:57:43. > :57:46.time and had come into Manchester on a Saturday morning with her friend

:57:47. > :57:52.to do some shopping, and obviously, we heard on the news that the bomb

:57:53. > :57:56.had gone off, and it was about half an hour before we knew she was OK.

:57:57. > :58:02.But one thing I noticed with her shortly after was that she had a

:58:03. > :58:06.morbid fascination with the news. She wanted to watch all the media

:58:07. > :58:10.coverage, and all the paper coverage. And I very quickly

:58:11. > :58:16.thought, she needs to talk to someone, independently. Which I

:58:17. > :58:21.arranged at the time. At the moment, I work for an organisation in

:58:22. > :58:26.Manchester called Talk, Listen, Change. They have offered free

:58:27. > :58:32.counselling for any victim, any person involved in the atrocity on

:58:33. > :58:43.Monday. Some people, and it is fair enough, some people ask a double --

:58:44. > :58:47.are sceptical. It is important to talk to people you are comfortable

:58:48. > :58:53.with. It doesn't have to be a counsellor. It can be a relative, a

:58:54. > :59:00.teacher, a person the child gets on with, or trusts and feels what she

:59:01. > :59:05.gets on with. Some people will experience, the feelings made be

:59:06. > :59:13.overwhelming. Understanding the mind is processing what has happened, and

:59:14. > :59:19.over the course of weeks, they are likely to settle down. But it is if

:59:20. > :59:25.it persists. If people experience it months from now, they should check

:59:26. > :59:31.in, look to get extra help, look for counselling, or talking to a GP

:59:32. > :59:34.about who might be able to help. Very briefly, what's the situation

:59:35. > :59:40.with exams? Anybody involved that may have exams coming up? The exam

:59:41. > :59:45.boards have said that exams should continue as normal, but for schools

:59:46. > :59:49.to put in special consideration, children should not be

:59:50. > :59:56.disadvantaged. And that's the right approach, isn't it? I believe so.

:59:57. > :00:02.Thank you very much. We are grateful for your time. Thank you. The advice

:00:03. > :00:08.is to explain that this is a very rare event, but it does happen and

:00:09. > :00:19.there are bad people, but it is rare.

:00:20. > :00:25.This morning, Manchester defiant in the face of terror.

:00:26. > :00:35.The Prime Minister is currently chairing the Government's emergency

:00:36. > :00:37.Cobra meeting in London as the official terrorism threat in the UK

:00:38. > :00:41.is raised to critical. This means that their assessment

:00:42. > :00:43.is not only that an attack remains highly likely but that a further

:00:44. > :00:50.attack may be imminent. It has emerged that the attacker

:00:51. > :00:53.Salman Abedi was known to the security services and it's

:00:54. > :01:01.unlikely he was acting alone. The mother of a 15-year-old

:01:02. > :01:08.girl who'd been missing since the explosion has

:01:09. > :01:09.revealed that she was Olivia Campbell's family had

:01:10. > :01:12.made desperate appeals We've been hearing more tales

:01:13. > :01:19.of heroism and bravery. One couple tell us how they helped

:01:20. > :01:22.a teenage girl while their own I just held her and I was going,

:01:23. > :01:32."My babies, my babies", and you just said, "I'm

:01:33. > :01:34.going to hold her". We just did what any

:01:35. > :02:04.parent would do. Good morning. It's just after 10am.

:02:05. > :02:07.We're live from Manchester. It's a grey, cool, morning. We're

:02:08. > :02:11.broadcasting to you from the heart of the city, from Albert Square

:02:12. > :02:15.which is the main square in front of the town hall. This is where the

:02:16. > :02:21.vigil was held last night, attended by thousands and thousands of

:02:22. > :02:25.people. This morning in the square, it's mostly journalists, reporters

:02:26. > :02:30.and media from all over the world, but as you can see collections of

:02:31. > :02:38.flowers where people have left messages and they have lit candles

:02:39. > :02:48.as a mark of respect because people want to do something. I can tell you

:02:49. > :02:53.that another victim has been named by her family, Kelly Brewster from

:02:54. > :03:06.Sheffield has been confirmed as one of the dead.

:03:07. > :03:14.Her partner has written, "Kelly Brewster has passed away in the

:03:15. > :03:18.terror attack. We had so many things planned together. My daughter will

:03:19. > :03:23.be absolutely devastated like we all are." We have another victim named,

:03:24. > :03:29.Kelly Brewster from Sheffield. Sheffield.

:03:30. > :03:33.Well, let's bring you right up-to-date with the very latest

:03:34. > :03:45.The suspected bomber Salman Abedi was a 22-year-old university

:03:46. > :03:47.drop-out who was known to security services.

:03:48. > :03:50.He was born here to Libyan parents and it's thought he may may have

:03:51. > :03:52.travelled to Libya earlier this month, returning

:03:53. > :03:57.The priority now is to establish if he acted alone.

:03:58. > :04:00.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, has said it was a sophisticated attack

:04:01. > :04:11.As has been pointed out this, this was a horrific violent event. It was

:04:12. > :04:14.more sophisticated than some of the horrific events that we have seen in

:04:15. > :04:17.the past or in other parts of Europe. So people are reasonably

:04:18. > :04:22.wondering whether he did this on his own? I'm making sure that the police

:04:23. > :04:25.and intelligence services during that investigation have the support

:04:26. > :04:29.they need to find out who might be, who might have been working with him

:04:30. > :04:33.because ultimately our focus is always going to be on making sure

:04:34. > :04:36.that we keep people safe and making sure they keep them safe is the best

:04:37. > :04:42.way to do that is to ensure that this operation ends.

:04:43. > :04:45.The official terrorism threat level in the UK has been raised

:04:46. > :04:51.to critical which means an attack is expected imminently.

:04:52. > :04:54.The armed forces will now help police, with troops being posted

:04:55. > :04:56.at some sites across Britain including Buckingham Palace,

:04:57. > :04:59.Downing Street, some embassies and the Houses of Parliament.

:05:00. > :05:01.Soldiers may also be seen at other events

:05:02. > :05:06.over the coming weeks, such as concerts, working under

:05:07. > :05:22.Let's talk to Frank Gardner. What do we know about the attacker and the

:05:23. > :05:27.attack? Well, we probably know less than what MI5 and the police know

:05:28. > :05:31.about him. But he was born in Manchester in 1994, that he had

:05:32. > :05:35.spent sometime in Libya. The exact dates are not certain, but it's

:05:36. > :05:41.thought that he came back in the last few days from Libya and this is

:05:42. > :05:45.a worrying thing because the device that he detonated was relatively

:05:46. > :05:48.sophisticated. As well as using a viable explosive that worked

:05:49. > :05:53.obviously, it contained nuts and bolts, this is a complete sea change

:05:54. > :05:57.from the kind of low tech rather amateurish attacks that we saw

:05:58. > :06:02.across Continental Europe last summer. This took planning and it

:06:03. > :06:06.would have taken reconnaissance, they selected their target

:06:07. > :06:10.carefully, it maybe no coincidence that it was an American singer so

:06:11. > :06:14.that's why the Security Service and the police are thinking that there

:06:15. > :06:18.must be other people involved here possibly an expert bomb maker and

:06:19. > :06:23.that is their nightmare scenario, that it is somebody who is at loose

:06:24. > :06:28.in the UK, who is simply not on their radar. That's only one theory

:06:29. > :06:36.that they're going down. So in terms of this man Abedi, he is from a

:06:37. > :06:41.Libyan background. His pear was an opponent of Colonel Gaddafi and they

:06:42. > :06:46.left Libya and he has links, the father, with something called the

:06:47. > :06:51.LIFG which was an Al-Qaeda linked group that was opposed to Colonel

:06:52. > :06:59.Gaddafi in the 1990s. He's thought to have returned to Libya. Libya, of

:07:00. > :07:02.course, is in chaos ever since the overthrow of Gaddafi's regime, the

:07:03. > :07:06.country turned into a failed state and there are pockets of Isis

:07:07. > :07:16.controlled territory and Al-Qaeda controlled territory and of course,

:07:17. > :07:22.it was from Libya that a person emerged with a Kalashnikov and

:07:23. > :07:27.murdered 30 tourists at Sousse two years ago.

:07:28. > :07:32.The attack in Manchester is the 13th deadly terrorist incident in Europe

:07:33. > :07:41.since January 2015. You can see here more people arriving to lay flowers

:07:42. > :07:45.as a mark of respect. The attack in Manchester is the most deadly in the

:07:46. > :07:54.UK since the 7th July ballings in London in 2005.

:07:55. > :07:58.Let's talk to Graham Foulkes whose son David died in the 7th July

:07:59. > :08:10.Graham now works to steer young people away from extremism.

:08:11. > :08:14.Tony Scott survived the attack on the Bataclan Theatre in Paris

:08:15. > :08:34.by escaping to an apartment above the venue.

:08:35. > :08:36.Thomas Tran Dinh who we spoke to on the programme just

:08:37. > :08:45.He was a survivor and he was at that gig.

:08:46. > :08:48.Some of you may remember him for his amazing positivity

:08:49. > :08:54.Also with us in Manchester, poet Tony Walsh, whose words

:08:55. > :08:56.at the vigil yesterday sparked a huge reaction from the crowd

:08:57. > :09:11.Graham, I'm going to begin with you if I may. You, more than most, know

:09:12. > :09:15.what family and friends have to deal with in the aftermath of a terror

:09:16. > :09:21.attack. What are your thoughts today? It's hard to describe really

:09:22. > :09:27.because I remember it so vividly. You just go into complete meltdown.

:09:28. > :09:33.You spend hours wondering, trying to make sense of something that doesn't

:09:34. > :09:38.make sense and you spend hours and hours silently screaming. It's not

:09:39. > :09:41.possible to find words to describe really what's going on in those

:09:42. > :09:47.people's minds at the moment. We should all be thinking about them.

:09:48. > :09:52.Let me bring in Tony and also Thomas. Tony, when you first heard

:09:53. > :09:57.news of what had happened here in Manchester, what went through your

:09:58. > :10:00.mind? I was just devastated to hear that something like this had

:10:01. > :10:07.happened again and you know particularly that it was targeted at

:10:08. > :10:11.young people. I have a 13-year-old girl and she could have been there,

:10:12. > :10:16.friends could have been there and it's just absolutely tragic and I

:10:17. > :10:21.know our families went through while we were in Paris and you know I know

:10:22. > :10:25.what we went through and for me, you know, those people just need all the

:10:26. > :10:28.support they can get and it's essential and it's one of those

:10:29. > :10:31.things that won't necessarily come looking for you, you have to go

:10:32. > :10:36.looking for it. We got very little proactive support when we came back

:10:37. > :10:39.from Paris. So my advice is if you know somebody that's caught up in

:10:40. > :10:43.it, make sure that you know you give them the information and don't let

:10:44. > :10:47.them have to wait and discover it for themselves because you know,

:10:48. > :10:54.ultimately that's what we had to do, you know. People need that and the

:10:55. > :10:58.other thing that reflects with me is just the people in Manchester, the

:10:59. > :11:01.stories I've heard on the news, the people have reached out and have

:11:02. > :11:05.been absolutely amazing. It's the spirit of people as well. We

:11:06. > :11:10.witnessed very similar in Paris, you know, the human resolve in such

:11:11. > :11:15.situations is, you know, absolutely amazing and you know the poem that

:11:16. > :11:23.was read last night just captures that for me. And you have said Tony

:11:24. > :11:28.that your experience in Paris in November 2015, you saw the worst of

:11:29. > :11:33.humanity and you saw the best of humanity? Oh, without a doubt.

:11:34. > :11:40.Without a doubt. We have to focus on that at times like this because this

:11:41. > :11:47.is a horrific attack, but those people are a minority and we have to

:11:48. > :11:51.remember that. Let me bring in Thomas. Thomas, hello to you. Hi.

:11:52. > :11:57.Thank you very much for talking to us again. You, I mean, you have

:11:58. > :12:07.drawn a love heart on the whiteboard alongside you. Tell us why. It's for

:12:08. > :12:14.you, you know, it's for all the poor young hearts that were lost, you

:12:15. > :12:20.know. It's the first time I got myself on

:12:21. > :12:28.the news in a year-and-a-half and it's the first time that I felt I

:12:29. > :12:32.needed to talk with you if I had the chance because we have all been

:12:33. > :12:40.through rough times to be honest and I know what's ahead of those people,

:12:41. > :12:45.those young people, and it's hard and as Tony said, sometimes you

:12:46. > :12:52.don't have good advice. So maybe if I could only help by giving the tips

:12:53. > :13:01.I have been through, you know, and to help them in the future. So the

:13:02. > :13:06.heart, I know I said something like love has to prevail, we have to love

:13:07. > :13:14.each other and I still believe it. No one teaches us how actually. It's

:13:15. > :13:20.not easy, you know. You have hate is so easy and you can have such a big

:13:21. > :13:25.impact by doing hateful acts and when you do loveful acts, it is

:13:26. > :13:31.always more, you know. In our society, we don't cherish the small

:13:32. > :13:35.things, we cherish the big impacts. Everyone wants to be, I don't know,

:13:36. > :13:42.but there is that strive to do something big, you know, but we have

:13:43. > :13:46.to cherish say hi to your neighbours. It seems nothing, it

:13:47. > :13:53.changes the world. Imagine if all your neighbours do that all the time

:13:54. > :14:03.on the bus. So it's really hard and we have to build that resilience to

:14:04. > :14:13.hate, you know and so in many countries in the political elections

:14:14. > :14:21.we have this struggle between let's say tolerance against intolerance,

:14:22. > :14:26.but the thing I observe from my tiny spot is sometimes you fight

:14:27. > :14:36.intolerance by being intolerant yourself and it doesn't work. You

:14:37. > :14:44.cannot go and say to someone, "You're not a good person." They

:14:45. > :14:53.won't change. So try to say, "Hello. I hear your position. Let's discuss.

:14:54. > :15:00.I'd like to understand." But it's hard. But if everyone tries to do

:15:01. > :15:06.those lilacses every day we'll get somewhere better. I really believe

:15:07. > :15:11.that, you know. But it's really hard. Let me bring Graham back in.

:15:12. > :15:19.Sorry to interrupt. I wanted to bring Graham back in who lost his

:15:20. > :15:24.son, David in the 7/7 bombings. Can you explain, Graham, how it is

:15:25. > :15:29.possible when you lose a son, how you go on?

:15:30. > :15:37.I don't know the answer to that. There is no option, you are just

:15:38. > :15:42.supported so well by friends and family. But you take each day as it

:15:43. > :15:48.comes, initially. And then you just learn to cope, but it never changes,

:15:49. > :15:53.it never goes away. When I get up and I leave my bedroom, the first

:15:54. > :15:57.thing I see is his bedroom door. The last thing at night, I see his

:15:58. > :16:02.bedroom door. Every day, I try to make sense of what is a senseless

:16:03. > :16:07.thing. These attacks, all of them now have brought about no change

:16:08. > :16:11.whatsoever. You wrestle with that conundrum all the time, why are they

:16:12. > :16:16.doing it when it achieves nothing? Why? It is a difficult thing to do.

:16:17. > :16:23.What I would say gives, trust in your friends, trust in your

:16:24. > :16:27.relatives, and take each day, day by day of that is the only option you

:16:28. > :16:33.have. The victims who have been identified so far, and

:16:34. > :16:38.eight-year-old girl, Saffie Roussos, Georgina Callander, a 28-year-old,

:16:39. > :16:46.John Atkinson, John was from Bury. Georgina was from Chorley, and

:16:47. > :16:56.Saffie Roussos was from near Preston. That goes through the

:16:57. > :17:02.generations. What it illustrates is, the same as in London, these people

:17:03. > :17:08.really do not care. They are brutal, they have no humanity at all. And

:17:09. > :17:11.yet, we are not brutal buying nature, we are humanitarian by

:17:12. > :17:16.nature. That is the difficult thing we can't cope with. That is in your

:17:17. > :17:23.head all the time, how can somebody be so cold, brutal, so thoughtless,

:17:24. > :17:26.so lacking in compassion? All I want to do is live my life with my

:17:27. > :17:31.children and my family, and my friends. We want to live in a nice,

:17:32. > :17:35.peaceful, friendly world where we get on with each other. When they

:17:36. > :17:39.clash, that tension is really very difficult to cope with. I

:17:40. > :17:43.understand, because I have been there, I suppose, these people will

:17:44. > :17:47.scream in silent pain at the moment. I would say to any friends and

:17:48. > :17:52.family helping them, find out who their doctor is, get their GP to go

:17:53. > :17:57.to them, because you don't sit there thinking, I am in meltdown, I need

:17:58. > :18:01.help. Help as to come to you. If you are friends and family of one of

:18:02. > :18:05.these people, get their GP, find their uncle or brother, bring them

:18:06. > :18:11.round and support them. Let me ask Thomas and Tony before I bring in

:18:12. > :18:17.Tony Walsh, the poet read his words last night at the vigil, as two

:18:18. > :18:22.people that have survived terrorist attacks and gone through that trauma

:18:23. > :18:27.of having to flee to escape gunmen at a gig where you go to have a

:18:28. > :18:37.brilliant time, when you are on a high, full of joy, how do you deal

:18:38. > :18:49.with what you have experienced and are just so that you can continue to

:18:50. > :18:54.live your life? I remember the first days, I was in shock and I didn't

:18:55. > :19:03.know what would be the next minute or hour. I would recommend anyone to

:19:04. > :19:10.seek professional help. And as a technique, there is an eye movement,

:19:11. > :19:17.I don't render, we processing something, it works really well for

:19:18. > :19:25.the really immediate PTSD. When you already go there, and after that, it

:19:26. > :19:35.is a long journey. I am still in it, I don't know. It is strange. You

:19:36. > :19:43.wrote music to try to help yourself. Yeah. With a friend that was with me

:19:44. > :19:50.that infamous night, we wrote and recorded an album describing our

:19:51. > :20:00.journey, from dark moment into the light. We wrote it for this case, so

:20:01. > :20:07.it's sad that we still need to talk about this kind of case. It helps to

:20:08. > :20:15.write it down and put it behind you, if you can put it behind you. But

:20:16. > :20:23.moving on, trying to move on is all you have to do. Let me ask Tony,

:20:24. > :20:27.what would you say? Thomas described it as moving on, it is not always

:20:28. > :20:35.possible. Is there a way of adjusting, though? For Justine Henin

:20:36. > :20:42.and icon it was music, going to concerts and gigs. -- just

:20:43. > :20:48.for us it was something that we didn't want to not do because of

:20:49. > :20:58.what had happened. We had tickets for a number of gigs following the

:20:59. > :21:02.article on attack. -- the Bataclan Theatre attack. The first was at

:21:03. > :21:09.Manchester Arena, we went to see Faithless. For a long time, going

:21:10. > :21:14.back to gigs, we were extremely on edge. The first thing we would do is

:21:15. > :21:21.look for exits. We pushed ourselves through a barrier with it. We

:21:22. > :21:24.weren't going to let the stop us doing what we do. We think about it

:21:25. > :21:30.all the time, there is no getting away from that. Every gig we go to,

:21:31. > :21:38.it is still there at the back of your mind. It's a part of our being.

:21:39. > :21:43.We won't let anybody take that away from us. We are going to an event

:21:44. > :21:49.this weekend, I am taking my daughter with us as well. We are

:21:50. > :21:53.still going to do that. Thank you, Tony. Thank you for coming back on

:21:54. > :22:02.the programme. Thomas, thank you very much, with your message of love

:22:03. > :22:09.and hope, and resilience. Thomas and Tony were at the Bataclan Theatre in

:22:10. > :22:16.Paris in November, 2015, when gunmen got into the theatre and started to

:22:17. > :22:20.shoot. That was part of a co-ordinated series of terrorist

:22:21. > :22:28.attacks on the French capital, 139 people died, almost 90 were killed

:22:29. > :22:34.in that theatre at the gig. Graham is still with me. His 22-year-old

:22:35. > :22:38.son David was killed in the 7/7 bombings. Tony Walsh is also here.

:22:39. > :22:43.Good morning to you. I was here in the Square last night with thousands

:22:44. > :22:49.of other people as you read your words. Your poem about Manchester.

:22:50. > :22:55.Tell us about you and when you wrote that. My name is Tony was, I am a

:22:56. > :23:00.poet based in Manchester, I am full-time with my work here. I wrote

:23:01. > :23:05.the poem a fuel years ago. It was commissioned by a charity called

:23:06. > :23:10.Forever Manchester, they give out money to grassroots organisations.

:23:11. > :23:17.Lines like, some are born here, drawn here, gaining residents, lines

:23:18. > :23:24.like there are hard times, gaining new residents. I grew strength from

:23:25. > :23:26.the gathering here last night. Whatever my challenge was last

:23:27. > :23:32.night, it has nothing to the challenge of many people, challenges

:23:33. > :23:37.that people face it. Are you happy to read it again for our audience? I

:23:38. > :23:39.said goodbye to Thomas and Tony, they are still listening to us. They

:23:40. > :23:45.haven't necessarily heard your words. Is that all right? Would you

:23:46. > :23:46.the full piece? If you don't mind. Put your earpiece in and they can

:23:47. > :24:02.talk to you. This is the place in

:24:03. > :24:04.the North West of England It's ace, it's the best

:24:05. > :24:07.and the songs that we sing From the stands, from our bands set

:24:08. > :24:10.the whole planet shaking There's nowt we can't make

:24:11. > :24:12.and We make goals that make souls leap

:24:13. > :24:17.from seats in the stands And we make things from steel

:24:18. > :24:20.and we make things from cotton And we make people laugh,

:24:21. > :24:23.take the mick summat rotten And we make you at home

:24:24. > :24:25.and we make you feel welcome And we make summat happen,

:24:26. > :24:28.we can't seem to help it And if you're looking for history

:24:29. > :24:31.then yes, we've a wealth But the Manchester way

:24:32. > :24:33.is to make it yourself And make us a record,

:24:34. > :24:35.a new number one And make us a brew

:24:36. > :24:37.while you're up, love. And make us feel proud that

:24:38. > :24:41.you're winning the league And make us sing louder

:24:42. > :24:43.and make us believe it that this is the place that has

:24:44. > :24:46.helped shape the world And that this the place

:24:47. > :24:48.where a Manchester girl Name of Emmeline Pankhurst

:24:49. > :24:50.from the streets of Moss Side Led a Suffragette City

:24:51. > :24:52.with sisterhood pride And this is the place

:24:53. > :24:54.with appliance of science We're on it, atomic,

:24:55. > :24:56.we strut with defiance In the face of a challenge

:24:57. > :24:58.we always stand tall Mancunians in union delivered it

:24:59. > :25:00.all Such as housing and libraries,

:25:01. > :25:02.and health, education And unions and co-ops, the first

:25:03. > :25:04.railway station But we hope you forgive us -

:25:05. > :25:13.we invented computers! And this is the place

:25:14. > :25:16.Henry Royce strolled with Rolls And we've rocked and we've rolled

:25:17. > :25:19.with our own Northern Soul And so this is the place to do

:25:20. > :25:21.business, then dance Where go-getters and goal setters

:25:22. > :25:23.know they've a chance And this is the place

:25:24. > :25:30.where we first played as kids And me Mam lived and died here,

:25:31. > :25:37.she loved it she did And this is the place

:25:38. > :25:40.where our folks came to work Where they struggled in puddles,

:25:41. > :25:42.they hurt in the dirt And they coughed on the cobbles

:25:43. > :25:47.to the deafening sound Of the steaming machines

:25:48. > :25:49.and the screaming of slaves They were scheming for greatness,

:25:50. > :25:53.they dreamed to their graves And they left us a spirit,

:25:54. > :25:55.they left us a vibe That Mancunian Way to

:25:56. > :25:59.survive and to thrive And to work and to build,

:26:00. > :26:04.to connect and create and Greater Manchester's

:26:05. > :26:05.greatness is keeping it great And so this is the place now

:26:06. > :26:08.we've kids of our own Some are born here, some drawn here,

:26:09. > :26:12.but we all call it home And they've covered the cobbles,

:26:13. > :26:15.but they'll never defeat All the dreamers and schemers

:26:16. > :26:18.who still teem through these streets Because this is a place that has

:26:19. > :26:20.been through some hard times Oppressions, recessions,

:26:21. > :26:23.depressions and dark times But we keep fighting back

:26:24. > :26:27.with Greater Manchester spirit Northern grit, northern wit

:26:28. > :26:31.in Greater Manchester's lyrics And there's hard times again

:26:32. > :26:34.in these streets of our city But we won't take defeat

:26:35. > :26:37.and we don't want your pity Because this a place

:26:38. > :26:40.where we stand strong together With a smile on our face,

:26:41. > :26:43.Mancunians Forever Because this is the place

:26:44. > :26:46.in our hearts, in our homes Because this is the place

:26:47. > :26:48.that's a part of our bones Because Manchester gives us such

:26:49. > :27:22.strength from the fact Wow. APPLAUSE

:27:23. > :27:28.Graham, it is moving... It sums up Manchester, beautifully. There is

:27:29. > :27:30.independence here, a maverick streak here, but ultimately, there is a

:27:31. > :27:35.spirit of solidarity here. The mood in the Square last night before I

:27:36. > :27:39.spoke. The mood I was reading was that we were a tolerant, diverse

:27:40. > :27:44.place and we will not be dragged down into hatred and bigotry, and

:27:45. > :27:49.intolerance. The end of the poem, choose love was said spontaneously,

:27:50. > :27:56.it has struck a cause. Choosing love rejects hatred. I hope you can hear

:27:57. > :28:00.Thomas and Tony. As you were listening to Tony Walsh re-signed

:28:01. > :28:07.that from of Manchester from the heart of the City, which is grieving

:28:08. > :28:11.and in shock, how do you respond? It is absolutely spot on. Love not

:28:12. > :28:20.hate. It always has to be love not hate. Hate will divide us, love will

:28:21. > :28:26.embrace us. Spot on. As a massive music fan myself, I am moved by the

:28:27. > :28:29.Bataclan Theatre incident. We go to concerts to celebrate the best of

:28:30. > :28:33.who we are and what we are. To see and share magnificent music and art,

:28:34. > :28:38.amazing sporting achievements in an arena. We stand there with family

:28:39. > :28:42.and friends, and at a community, we bond with strangers, we put children

:28:43. > :28:46.on our shoulders, and that is what we are about. For that to be

:28:47. > :28:49.desecrated last night, the day before yesterday, it is

:28:50. > :28:58.heartbreaking. Thomas, what do you want to say to Tony? It is really

:28:59. > :29:03.uplifting. It is what we need. We all share this planet, too. Let's

:29:04. > :29:18.unite, we are all brothers and sisters. I am with you. Everyone

:29:19. > :29:24.should be with you. It's been very moving to me to start to appreciate

:29:25. > :29:29.how this poem has resonated with people, not just in Manchester, but

:29:30. > :29:34.around the world. I am still trying to process the news here, and focus

:29:35. > :29:38.on those who have lost loved ones. That is what it is about. If the

:29:39. > :29:44.poem has helped in a tiny way, that is pleasing. Thank you very much.

:29:45. > :29:54.Thanks for talking to us this morning.

:29:55. > :29:58.This is BBC News. Victoria Derbyshire with you.

:29:59. > :30:01.In the past few minutes the first picture of suspected bomber

:30:02. > :30:09.This is what we know so far about him.

:30:10. > :30:11.A 22-year-old university drop-out, he was born

:30:12. > :30:21.It's thought he'd recently travelled to Libya, only returning back

:30:22. > :30:30.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, said this morning that he was known

:30:31. > :30:33.by security services "up to a point" and the priority now is to establish

:30:34. > :30:38.She said it was a sophisticated attack which could mean

:30:39. > :30:44.Police have been carrying out a series of raids in areas

:30:45. > :30:50.of Manchester where he's known to have lived.

:30:51. > :30:59.Being reported by Reuters that the Palace of Westminster, Britain's

:31:00. > :31:04.Parliament, will close to the public with immediate effect due to the

:31:05. > :31:10.increased security threat after the attack here in Manchester. Prime

:31:11. > :31:13.Minister, Theresa May, saying that Britain faces a critical security

:31:14. > :31:19.threat meaning that another attack could be imminent according to

:31:20. > :31:22.Reuters. That is leading to the Palace of Westminster, the House of

:31:23. > :31:28.Commons and the House of Lords effectively being closed to the

:31:29. > :31:32.public with immediate effect. As a consequence, all tours, events and

:31:33. > :31:37.banqueting will be cancelled and this arrangement will remain in

:31:38. > :31:40.place until the advice changes. This on the Parliament's website. As you

:31:41. > :31:44.know, Parliament is not currently sitting because of the general

:31:45. > :31:48.election taking place on 8th June, but general election campaigning is

:31:49. > :31:58.still suspended and it's not clear when it will resume. And, you may

:31:59. > :32:01.already have heard Ariana Grande's concerts at the O2 arena in London

:32:02. > :32:05.have not been postponed or cancelled, but the haven't usay they

:32:06. > :32:12.are in contact with promoters about a final decision. So at the moment,

:32:13. > :32:15.Ariana Grande's concerts at the O2 on Thursday and Friday haven't been

:32:16. > :32:18.postponed or cancelled, but the haven't usay they are in contact

:32:19. > :32:29.with promoters about a final decision. Good morning, it is

:32:30. > :32:32.10.32am. My name is Victoria Derbyshire. We're broadcasting live

:32:33. > :32:40.from the centre of Manchester this morning. We are in the heart of a

:32:41. > :32:45.city, probably about a mile or so, a mile-and-a-half from where the

:32:46. > :32:51.attack took place on Monday night. 22 people were killed. 59 people

:32:52. > :32:56.were injured. Here in this square, this town hall square, this

:32:57. > :33:02.traditional cobbled town hall square in front of the beautiful old

:33:03. > :33:08.building, is where a vigil was held last night and thousands came,

:33:09. > :33:13.thousands came and left flowers. You can see some of the flowers behind

:33:14. > :33:17.me. There are not loads, but there are different points around the city

:33:18. > :33:21.where flowers are being left and messages are being left. At least

:33:22. > :33:28.three points in Albert Square where we are now and also St Ann's Square,

:33:29. > :33:32.there was many people there and again quieter there, lighting

:33:33. > :33:38.candles and saying prayers and many people in tears, pupils in school

:33:39. > :33:42.uniform, they had come from school with their parents to pay their

:33:43. > :33:47.respects. Three men have arrested in south marriage in connection with

:33:48. > :33:51.the attack on Monday night. Greater Manchester Police in the last minute

:33:52. > :33:55.say that three men have been arrested in south Manchester in

:33:56. > :34:00.connection with the bomb attack on Monday night.

:34:01. > :34:03.Greater Manchester Police say three men have been arrested in south

:34:04. > :34:10.Manchester in connection with the bomb attack here on Monday night.

:34:11. > :34:13.Obviously the investigation continuing and will continue for

:34:14. > :34:20.many hours, days and weeks ahead. They are trying to find out more,

:34:21. > :34:27.trying to find out more about the individual who carried out the

:34:28. > :34:32.attack, 22-year-old Salman Abedi. It is reported that he had recently

:34:33. > :34:35.returned from Libya the his parents are Libyan, refugees from Libya. He

:34:36. > :34:40.was born in Manchester. Born and brought up here. Let me introduce

:34:41. > :34:43.you now to the leader of the Manchester City Council, Sir Richard

:34:44. > :34:47.Leese. Good morning to you and Beverley Hughes, a former MP, and do

:34:48. > :34:51.tell me your title now. I have it written down. I'm deputy mayor with

:34:52. > :34:57.a lead on police and crime. Right, OK. Thank you very much for joining

:34:58. > :35:00.us here today. Sir Richard Leese as leader of the City Council how do

:35:01. > :35:05.you think Manchester has responded to this attack? I think they

:35:06. > :35:08.responded magnificentically and clearly there is a lot of grief and

:35:09. > :35:12.there is a lot of pain, but even on Monday night and the early hours of

:35:13. > :35:16.Tuesday morning, Manchester, businesses and individuals came out

:35:17. > :35:22.to help victims. Yesterday, we saw a vigil of people of all ages, all

:35:23. > :35:27.colours, all backgrounds, coming together to share, I think, share

:35:28. > :35:31.hope as much as anything else and what we will see over the coming

:35:32. > :35:37.days is Manchester, to the extent you can in the face of a tragedy of

:35:38. > :35:40.this sort, getting back to normal and demonstrating to terrorism

:35:41. > :35:43.they're not going to win. They're certainly not going to win in this

:35:44. > :35:46.city, they will not change the way we live our lives and they will not

:35:47. > :35:50.stop us getting on with our every day lives.

:35:51. > :35:54.In terms of the response of the police here and emergency services,

:35:55. > :35:58.personnel, I'm sure you were here last night when there was huge

:35:59. > :36:02.applause for what emergency services personnel had done, and what the

:36:03. > :36:05.police had done, the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police, Ian

:36:06. > :36:10.Hopkins said, "I thank you from the bottom of my heart." How do you

:36:11. > :36:13.believe the police responded? Well, I certainly think so far, I would

:36:14. > :36:17.agree with that. I think the speed of the response, there was an early

:36:18. > :36:20.responder on the scene within six minutes who was in the vicinity and

:36:21. > :36:25.all the emergency services, then came on the scene very, very

:36:26. > :36:29.quickly. But beyond that, the integration of the police here in

:36:30. > :36:31.Greater Manchester, with the national and regional

:36:32. > :36:37.counter-terrorism expertise, the backing in of the Health Service,

:36:38. > :36:41.the local authority, I spoke to the person on Gold Command last night...

:36:42. > :36:47.That's the person in charge of the operation. She said it has been

:36:48. > :36:51.remarkable the multi-agency co-ordination and integration and...

:36:52. > :36:57.That will continue. You are prepared for an event like this, but perhaps

:36:58. > :37:03.not the scale of this. Is that fair? I think that's probably true to say.

:37:04. > :37:09.But, you know, the police and the emergency services are prepared.

:37:10. > :37:17.They practise regularly. And you hope that when if the real thing

:37:18. > :37:19.happens all of that routine internalalised response kicks in and

:37:20. > :37:26.the evidence is on this occasion, it clearly did. Sir Richard Leese, this

:37:27. > :37:30.is a city that's grieving, that is in shock. There was clearly a lot of

:37:31. > :37:35.defiance last night and a lot of people saying, "We will come

:37:36. > :37:40.together. We will show solidarity." ." Other people have suggested that

:37:41. > :37:44.lighting a candle, gathering in a square is not going to stop suicide

:37:45. > :37:48.bombers. What do you say to that? Well, it's not. Of course, it's not.

:37:49. > :37:53.Manchester is not officially one of the world's most resilient cities

:37:54. > :37:57.for nothing. It is because the sorts of things that Beverley have been

:37:58. > :38:02.talking about have been practised and have been rehearsed that people

:38:03. > :38:05.know what they're doing, but just like last night we had thousands of

:38:06. > :38:08.people in the square this morning, I was talking to hundreds of

:38:09. > :38:12.businesses who clearly want to know what's going on and so on and

:38:13. > :38:15.delivering the message for them that they need to play their part of

:38:16. > :38:21.getting business operating normally and it is that that really defeats

:38:22. > :38:25.terrorism. They want to kill. Their aim was to kill, but they also want

:38:26. > :38:29.to disrupt the way we live our lives because their aim is to destroy the

:38:30. > :38:33.way we live our lives. Actually by saying, no, we're not going to let

:38:34. > :38:36.you do that, we're not going to let you disrupt the way we live our

:38:37. > :38:39.lives, it is part of the way we beat terrorism. Yes, we need to look at

:38:40. > :38:43.security and we need to look at policing and we need to be alert, we

:38:44. > :38:48.need to do all of those things, but at the same time, we have to get on

:38:49. > :38:51.with living our lives the way we want to in this country, living in

:38:52. > :38:55.freedom. Thank you very much both of you.

:38:56. > :38:57.Richard Leese, leader of Manchester City Council and Beverley Hughes,

:38:58. > :39:01.deputy mayor, thank you very much for your time. To repeat the

:39:02. > :39:04.breaking news from Greater Manchester Police, three men have

:39:05. > :39:08.been arrested in south Manchester in connection with Monday's bomb

:39:09. > :39:13.attack. I can also tell you that the Changing of the Guard at Buckingham

:39:14. > :39:17.Palace has been cancelled today. That ceremony has been cancelled so

:39:18. > :39:20.that police officers can be redeployed. That from the Ministry

:39:21. > :39:25.of Defence. The Changing of the Guard ceremony at Buckingham Palace

:39:26. > :39:30.has been cancelled today. A Cobra meeting at Whitehall has just broken

:39:31. > :39:37.up and Norman Smith is there. What can you tell us, Norman? Well, Vic

:39:38. > :39:40.we're going to get details now of the deployment of the troops who are

:39:41. > :39:43.going to be made available to replace police officers so police

:39:44. > :39:47.can get on with the counter-terrorism operation. We're

:39:48. > :39:51.told there will be 400 to 800 troops made available initially building up

:39:52. > :39:55.possibly to nearly 4,000. You may not see them on the streets. They

:39:56. > :40:01.are more likely to be at key facilities, such as power plants,

:40:02. > :40:05.key transport terminals, that sort of thing to release police. The

:40:06. > :40:09.other thing, I think, worth saying, the signs are the ceasefire over the

:40:10. > :40:15.general election is beginning to fray. Ukip announcing they will

:40:16. > :40:19.resume campaigning tomorrow with the launch of their manifesto. Now,

:40:20. > :40:23.this, when just talking to figures in Government, they are suggesting

:40:24. > :40:28.that it should be delayed for several days. Ukip deciding they're

:40:29. > :40:32.going to go for it anyway. I don't think any of the other main parties

:40:33. > :40:36.will follow them, whatever their impatience might be, so Ukip saying

:40:37. > :40:39.that you cannot put democracy on hold. That would be a victory for

:40:40. > :40:43.the terrorists and therefore, they are going to go ahead with their

:40:44. > :40:46.launch. A pretty controversial move I would suggest and one which I

:40:47. > :40:51.think they will probably be taking on their own. Last thing worth

:40:52. > :40:56.saying, interesting really, there appears to have been quite a severe

:40:57. > :41:01.spat between the Home Secretary and her American counterpart over the

:41:02. > :41:06.fact that key he will of the investigation to Manchester were

:41:07. > :41:09.leaked to the US media. Amber Rudd was on the blower to the US

:41:10. > :41:13.authorities demanding that there was no repeat of that and her officials

:41:14. > :41:16.insist they have got the message, but quite unusual really to have a

:41:17. > :41:21.Home Secretary picking up the phone and giving the US authorities a

:41:22. > :41:26.piece of her mind. Thank you very much, Norman, Norman

:41:27. > :41:29.Smith live from Whitehall. Venues across the UK say they are

:41:30. > :41:33.stepping up their security and people should allow more time when

:41:34. > :41:38.they go big events. Some people caught up in Monday as attack have

:41:39. > :41:40.criticised security at the Manchester Arena saying they were

:41:41. > :41:45.waved through the door without proper bag searches. It isn't the

:41:46. > :41:48.first time concern has arisen about security at venues.

:41:49. > :41:54.Here's our entertainment reporter Chi Chi Izundu.

:41:55. > :41:59.Your instinct was - "My children, my children -

:42:00. > :42:12.We saw families and staff crying and shaking.

:42:13. > :42:15.With being told to expect a terrorist attack, and a crowded

:42:16. > :42:18.venue like a concert was a likely target.

:42:19. > :42:21.Monday's bomb was the second major fatal incident attributed

:42:22. > :42:24.to terrorists at a music venue in less than 18 months.

:42:25. > :42:28.The first was carried out very differently.

:42:29. > :42:31.I was on the phone to my friend and he could hear

:42:32. > :42:37.Terrorists were shouting to stay down, don't move.

:42:38. > :42:42.90 people were killed in the Bataclan Theatre in Paris.

:42:43. > :42:47.They were there watching the American rock group

:42:48. > :42:49.The Eagles of Death Metal, when three gunmen stormed into

:42:50. > :42:55.I've been investigating to see what's changed since that

:42:56. > :43:07.I think that there are great differences between venues,

:43:08. > :43:10.and I think some take a lot of trouble to try and put

:43:11. > :43:13.into place security, and others perhaps don't take much

:43:14. > :43:22.I do think there are a small number of venues that have potentially

:43:23. > :43:24.slipped between the cracks, under the illusion they simply

:43:25. > :43:29.Almost 28 million tickets were sold for live music in the UK last year,

:43:30. > :43:32.for the thousands of music venues and festivals around the country.

:43:33. > :43:35.Under health and safety rules, music venues have to have emergency

:43:36. > :43:40.plans in place in the event of a fire.

:43:41. > :43:44.But at the moment, it is not the same for a terror threat.

:43:45. > :43:46.Since 2004, free counterterror advice from the police has been

:43:47. > :43:51.available to venues and businesses under Project Griffin.

:43:52. > :43:53.The attack on the Bataclan brought a renewed focus on it and training

:43:54. > :44:03.Enclosed spaces such as theatres, concert arenas or nightclubs,

:44:04. > :44:12.So one year on, we wanted to see how UK music venues had reacted

:44:13. > :44:21.The medium-sized Troxy in east London and one of the busiest

:44:22. > :44:24.venues in the world, the O2 Arena.

:44:25. > :44:26.More recently, obviously there is a spotlight on security.

:44:27. > :44:32.We're trying to refine our processes.

:44:33. > :44:36.We always change and adapt our security, we don't keep it the same.

:44:37. > :44:38.Behind the scenes, our security operation is in full swing.

:44:39. > :44:45.You'll see a lot of our staff around.

:44:46. > :44:48.We've got plain clothes staff as well and we also

:44:49. > :45:10.We obviously got in contact with the police after it happened.

:45:11. > :45:13.The night of the Bataclan in Paris, we had a boxing show

:45:14. > :45:16.with 1500 people here, and then we had a Russian

:45:17. > :45:19.So, there was this sort of nervousness that was

:45:20. > :45:23.However, we did get in contact with the police afterwards and had

:45:24. > :45:26.a conversation in terms of, is there anything additional

:45:27. > :45:30.They suggested that we did look at some other measures, we also then

:45:31. > :45:34.put all of the management team through Operation Griffin,

:45:35. > :45:37.and we actually had the local counterterrorism team come down

:45:38. > :45:41.to induct us, basically, and that has been fed down

:45:42. > :45:47.to the front line team and security here as well.

:45:48. > :45:49.We, as a decent sized venue, still have quite a small team.

:45:50. > :45:53.Smaller venues have even smaller teams, and they're probably thinking

:45:54. > :45:56.more about how they're going to run tonight's show and clear up

:45:57. > :46:03.from last night's show, and booking staff for next week.

:46:04. > :46:06.And whilst I'm sure that, you know, terrorism is on the tick list,

:46:07. > :46:11.whereabouts it fits as a priority sometimes might slip down.

:46:12. > :46:15.Also, what happens generally with events, is they all get bunched

:46:16. > :46:18.together, and there's a bit of a lull period.

:46:19. > :46:21.Then you look back in terms of your processes,

:46:22. > :46:24.whereas when you're doing back-to-back for 30 days in a row,

:46:25. > :46:30.it can be quite difficult to prioritise other elements.

:46:31. > :46:32.Whilst both the Troxy and the O2 Arena have

:46:33. > :46:36.upgraded their security, there is concern within

:46:37. > :46:38.the Private Security industry that not everyone is taking advantage

:46:39. > :46:46.I think everyone has upped their game in the UK.

:46:47. > :46:49.The police have been incredibly proactive in putting in free

:46:50. > :46:51.training and advice to venues, venues themselves have

:46:52. > :46:57.upped their game by putting additional procedures in place,

:46:58. > :46:59.by putting additional training in place for their staff,

:47:00. > :47:01.and generally raising the level of awareness within

:47:02. > :47:07.I think there is a misconception from some of the smaller venue

:47:08. > :47:10.operators that anything to do with counterterrorism

:47:11. > :47:13.is horrifically expensive and they simply do not

:47:14. > :47:17.have the budget for it. In fact, the opposite is true.

:47:18. > :47:19.There's an incredible amount of absolutely free help

:47:20. > :47:24.There are standard operational procedures they could implement

:47:25. > :47:31.I do think there are a small number of venues that have potentially

:47:32. > :47:35.slipped between the cracks, under the illusion that they simply

:47:36. > :47:40.Baroness Ruth Hennig, a former head of the regulator

:47:41. > :47:44.of private security firms, wants to change the law,

:47:45. > :47:49.to force venues to prioritise counterterror training.

:47:50. > :47:57.Often, at larger venues I think, but not always only large

:47:58. > :47:59.venues, who for example, do have airport style security,

:48:00. > :48:02.who do have metal detectors, who do have very well-trained

:48:03. > :48:09.security personnel, and they top of this training regularly.

:48:10. > :48:11.So there are some people out there who are taking

:48:12. > :48:15.But I think at the other end, there are a lot of venues,

:48:16. > :48:18.there is a tail of venues, who aren't taking it seriously -

:48:19. > :48:20.we know this from the police - who don't cooperate,

:48:21. > :48:23.who don't take up the offers that are made to them,

:48:24. > :48:25.and where I think there are some concerns.

:48:26. > :48:30.The issue is, how do you get to that tail of security venues

:48:31. > :48:33.who are perhaps not doing as much as they should do about security?

:48:34. > :48:40.And how do you get to them? What is the solution?

:48:41. > :48:43.All clubs and bars, and similar venues, are licensed under

:48:44. > :48:47.If you were to make the legislation more specific in terms

:48:48. > :48:50.of counterterrorism, then these venues would have to show

:48:51. > :48:51.that they were actually taking security seriously,

:48:52. > :49:12.In the past hour, a fifth victim of the Manchester bomb attack has been

:49:13. > :49:16.named, she is Kelly Brewster from Sheffield, and many more are likely

:49:17. > :49:21.to be identified over the next few hours. The death of 15-year-old

:49:22. > :49:26.schoolgirl Olivia Campbell was announced by her family after they

:49:27. > :49:31.spent Tuesday desperately searching for her, and appealing to the public

:49:32. > :49:36.for help. She was from Bury. Her mum Charlotte wrote on Facebook, RIP my

:49:37. > :49:39.darling, precious, gorgeous girl, taken far too soon, ghosting with

:49:40. > :49:46.the angels and keep smiling. Mummy loves you so much. Tributes have

:49:47. > :49:49.been paid to eight-year-old Saffie Roussos, described by her

:49:50. > :49:54.headteacher in Lancashire as simply a beautiful little girl in every

:49:55. > :49:57.aspect of the word. Friends of Georgina Callander has paid tribute

:49:58. > :50:05.to their beautiful friend. She was a 19-year-old student in Lille and,

:50:06. > :50:09.where a dedicated support team is supporting students. And John

:50:10. > :50:13.Atkinson from Bury was 28 years of age. His friends have set up a

:50:14. > :50:16.fundraising page to support his family, and have described him as

:50:17. > :50:24.one in a million, and loved by so many. Of the six D4 people treated

:50:25. > :50:30.at hospital after the attack, 20 remain in critical care across

:50:31. > :50:33.Manchester -- 64. We will talk more about security at venues with Reg

:50:34. > :50:38.Walker. head of the Iridium Consultancy,

:50:39. > :50:46.a ticket security firm. In terms of how security will change

:50:47. > :50:54.at theatres, football is they do, what will happen? Since the

:50:55. > :50:58.incident, there has been a review of everyone's security procedures at

:50:59. > :51:02.all venues across the UK, both large and small. I think there have

:51:03. > :51:07.already been lessened learned will stop what the Manchester incident

:51:08. > :51:12.does highlight is that venues need to think more about security in

:51:13. > :51:17.depth. It's not right that we should simply secure venues up to the

:51:18. > :51:22.doors, and not beyond that point. That's one of the major changes that

:51:23. > :51:29.we will see at some venues coming into effect within the coming days.

:51:30. > :51:32.Right, so from a venue, all the way out to public transport, bus stops

:51:33. > :51:38.and train stations, that kind of thing? Processes have been in place

:51:39. > :51:44.for over a decade, there is criminality on the exterior of

:51:45. > :51:47.events, and security goes right up to transport hubs. That is something

:51:48. > :51:55.all venues should consider at this time. OK, thank you.

:51:56. > :51:58.The taxi driver offering free rides, the homeless man who went to help

:51:59. > :52:01.victims, people giving up rooms in their house for strangers to stay

:52:02. > :52:06.in, the hotels offering shelter, the queues of people donating blood,

:52:07. > :52:10.the rabbi who we spoke to yesterday offering free tea and coffee,

:52:11. > :52:14.medics volunteering to come into work - the people of Manchester

:52:15. > :52:17.showed the size of their heart and generosity yesterday,

:52:18. > :52:19.something which former Manchester United legend

:52:20. > :52:47.To the victims, kids, teenagers, adults, to the families, to their

:52:48. > :52:53.friends, to all, all of you, all of us... I think to the City of

:52:54. > :53:02.Manchester, and Mancunians, who I love deeply... I think to this

:53:03. > :53:15.country, England, the England, who I love deeply, I stand with you. My

:53:16. > :53:22.heart is with you. I've will feel close to you.

:53:23. > :53:25.Yesterday, the current Manchester United players observed a minute of

:53:26. > :53:29.silence for those that were killed on Monday night. Other sports stars

:53:30. > :54:44.have paid tribute and offered messages of support to the City.

:54:45. > :54:51.This morning, a fifth victim of the Manchester bomb attack has been

:54:52. > :54:56.named, Kelly Brewster from Sheffield. We have also heard about

:54:57. > :55:00.the death of 15-year-old schoolgirl Olivia Campbell, her death announced

:55:01. > :55:04.by her family after they had spent all of Monday night through into

:55:05. > :55:11.Tuesday, desperately searching for her, and appealing to the public for

:55:12. > :55:15.help on Facebook her mother wrote, RIP, my dialling, precious, gorgeous

:55:16. > :55:21.girl, taken too soon. Sing with the angels. Mummy loves you so much.

:55:22. > :55:23.Tributes have also been paid to eight-year-old Saffie Roussos,

:55:24. > :55:25.described by her headteacher in Lancashire as "simply a beautiful

:55:26. > :55:29.little girl in every aspect of the word".

:55:30. > :55:33.Friends of Georgina Callander have paid tribute to

:55:34. > :55:41.She was a 19-year-old student at Runshaw College where

:55:42. > :55:43.a dedicated support team is supporting other students.

:55:44. > :55:48.His friends have set up a fundraising page to support this

:55:49. > :55:50.family and have described him as "one in a million

:55:51. > :55:55.Of the 64 people being treated at hospital after the attack,

:55:56. > :56:04.20 remain in "critical care" across Manchester.

:56:05. > :56:17.You can see more people arriving here to leave flowers and messages

:56:18. > :56:22.of sympathy. We will talk to our correspondence outside magister,

:56:23. > :56:27.what is the latest? As we have heard in the last few minutes, three men

:56:28. > :56:30.have been arrested in connection with this investigation in the South

:56:31. > :56:36.Manchester area, that was after police were issued with warrants. We

:56:37. > :56:40.have learned the other man arrested yesterday in connection with this

:56:41. > :56:42.investigation, a 23-year-old man that was arrested in South

:56:43. > :56:50.Manchester, he is the brother of the attacker, Salman Abedi. It is a very

:56:51. > :56:54.fast moving investigation, as we are aware, of course, leading to the

:56:55. > :56:58.terror threat being raised, and troops being potentially deployed to

:56:59. > :57:01.the streets. Greater Manchester Police here have said that will

:57:02. > :57:05.support them in their efforts as they continue with this

:57:06. > :57:10.investigation. Yesterday, Salman Abedi was identified. Today, Amber

:57:11. > :57:15.Rudd said he was known to intelligence services up to a point.

:57:16. > :57:18.It will be crucial to understand what that means. We understand he

:57:19. > :57:24.has recently returned from Libya. His British passport will have been

:57:25. > :57:27.checked then. We believe American intelligence services may know

:57:28. > :57:32.something about him, too. Crucial now to the investigation, was the

:57:33. > :57:36.acting alone? Amber Rudd said earlier that he was likely to not

:57:37. > :57:40.have been. But police want to know where the bomb was made, if others

:57:41. > :57:50.were involved, and if they were, who they are will stop

:57:51. > :58:01.Thank you very much. June Kelly has confirmed that one of the men

:58:02. > :58:09.arrested in the last 24 hours is a brother of the suicide bomber. I can

:58:10. > :58:13.also tell you that a PR manager, Martyn Hett, he has been named, he

:58:14. > :58:18.died at the Manchester Arena with his friend Stuart Aspinall. His

:58:19. > :58:22.family were searching for him via social media. Thank you for your

:58:23. > :58:24.company today. Stay with BBC news throughout the day for more reaction

:58:25. > :58:28.from Manchester.