26/05/2017

:00:09. > :00:11.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am - I'm Chloe Tilley in for Victoria.

:00:12. > :00:20."The war on terror is simply not working."

:00:21. > :00:22.That's the view of Jeremy Corbyn, who's promising change

:00:23. > :00:25.But his views have been sharply criticised by the Conservatives.

:00:26. > :00:27.I think Jeremy Corbyn's comments are totally

:00:28. > :00:40.Will either at police headquarters in Manchester as another arrest is

:00:41. > :00:47.made in connection with Monday night's bombing. -- we are live.

:00:48. > :00:48.The UK terror threat level remains "critical" -

:00:49. > :00:50.meaning another attack could be imminent.

:00:51. > :00:53.We'll look at how security is being stepped up at this

:00:54. > :00:56.Also in the programme, we'll have the extraordinary story

:00:57. > :00:59.of a how a man who was abandoned as a baby tracked down his

:01:00. > :01:12.siblings with nothing more than a sample of his DNA.

:01:13. > :01:19.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:01:20. > :01:24.Will the Manchester terror attacks put you off going to any major

:01:25. > :01:26.events this weekend or argue determined to carry on as normal?

:01:27. > :01:29.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning.

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:01:36. > :01:37.The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will give a major speech today,

:01:38. > :01:39.as election campaigning resumes after the terror

:01:40. > :01:45.He's expected to link British military action abroad

:01:46. > :01:48.to terrorism in the UK, and call for a change

:01:49. > :01:53.Let's talk to our political guru Norman Smith about this.

:01:54. > :01:59.Tell us a bit more about what Jeremy Corbyn is going to say?

:02:00. > :02:05.Mr Corbyn will set out what he thinks are some of the key drivers

:02:06. > :02:09.of terrorism. He will say that he is not seeking to excuse terrorists,

:02:10. > :02:13.they are the ones who are guilty and they alone are guilty for the acts

:02:14. > :02:18.they carry out. But he will suggest that some of the walls we have been

:02:19. > :02:21.involved in a broad in places like Iraq, Syria and Libya have

:02:22. > :02:27.contributed to the threat we face, and he will say cuts to police

:02:28. > :02:31.numbers have also put us at risk because, he will argue, you cannot

:02:32. > :02:40.have security on the cheap. But, as you might expect, it a very, very

:02:41. > :02:41.controversial moment to be making these sorts of remarks, as my

:02:42. > :02:43.colleague Iain Watson now reports. The political truce

:02:44. > :02:44.following the Manchester attack will be declared over today,

:02:45. > :02:46.when Jeremy Corbyn speaks He'll draw political dividing lines

:02:47. > :02:54.by criticising Government cuts in police numbers,

:02:55. > :02:56.and will say austerity must stop But linking involvement in foreign

:02:57. > :03:11.wars to terrorism is likely Many experts including professionals

:03:12. > :03:14.in our intelligence and it is their bosses have pointed to the

:03:15. > :03:17.connections between wars our Government has supported all fought

:03:18. > :03:21.in other countries, and terrorism here at home.

:03:22. > :03:25.He will say this does not reduce the guilt of terrorists, but...

:03:26. > :03:31.We must be brave enough to admit the war on terror is simply not working.

:03:32. > :03:33.The former Lib Dem leader Lord Ashdown has questioned the

:03:34. > :03:39.The Labour leader expects criticism for his comments,

:03:40. > :03:42.but those close to him say it's impossible to have an honest debate

:03:43. > :03:44.on tackling terrorism without mentioning the wars.

:03:45. > :03:58.Mr Corbyn's aides say in his speech Mr Corbyn will pledge to be tough on

:03:59. > :04:02.terrorism and tough on the causes of terrorism, but already critics are

:04:03. > :04:07.pointing out that the Labour leader has voted against pretty much every

:04:08. > :04:15.recent counterterrorism legislation brought before the Commons and he

:04:16. > :04:18.opposes the deradicalisation Prevent strategy, so perhaps unsurprisingly

:04:19. > :04:21.the Conservative security minister Ben Wallace this morning was highly

:04:22. > :04:24.critical of Mr Corbyn's decision to make this speech.

:04:25. > :04:26.I think Jeremy Corbyn's comments are totally

:04:27. > :04:30.Right now, we have police forces and security services scrabbling,

:04:31. > :04:33.working hard to keep us safe through the night.

:04:34. > :04:38.We have 66 people still in hospital in Manchester.

:04:39. > :04:42.Now is not the time to decide to use this event to attack foreign policy

:04:43. > :04:45.decisions that may or may not have been made.

:04:46. > :04:50.Now is the time to focus on our British values,

:04:51. > :04:52.our intolerance of terrorism, and stand united saying violence

:04:53. > :04:54.and hate will not deliver the outcome they want,

:04:55. > :05:02.and we as a society will not be threatened or damaged by terrorism.

:05:03. > :05:10.The hope of Mr Corbyn is that voters, while not in any way

:05:11. > :05:15.minimising the horror of Manchester, will think, yes, we do have to have

:05:16. > :05:18.this debate about what is causing this radicalisation, what is the

:05:19. > :05:24.reason for the terror threat we face. But it is an almighty risk for

:05:25. > :05:29.Mr Corbyn, the danger that he simply gets more damaging headlines.

:05:30. > :05:35.Thank you, Norman, we will catch up with you later on in the programme.

:05:36. > :05:38.And tune in to BBC One at 7pm this evening,

:05:39. > :05:41.when Jeremy Corbyn will be the latest leader in the hot seat

:05:42. > :05:44.Police are continuing their investigations into a possible

:05:45. > :05:46.network surrounding the Manchester suicide bomber, who killed 22

:05:47. > :05:54.There've been more searches and one arrest overnight,

:05:55. > :05:56.our Correspondent Wrye Davies is outside Greater Manchester

:05:57. > :06:06.Bring us up-to-date with what you are being told.

:06:07. > :06:08.There have been some interesting developments overnight, the first

:06:09. > :06:13.police operation in the early hours of the morning, a man was arrested

:06:14. > :06:17.in the Moss side area of Manchester, which has brought the total number

:06:18. > :06:21.of people in detention to eight. There was an operation this morning

:06:22. > :06:25.over in St Helens in neighbouring Merseyside and back in Moss side at

:06:26. > :06:30.another address, another police operation this morning. Greater

:06:31. > :06:35.Manchester Police said they are making good progress. The problem

:06:36. > :06:38.is, the reality is we are in a critical state of alert and police

:06:39. > :06:43.still need and want to find those people who may have helped the bomb

:06:44. > :06:50.procure the bomb, set up the bomb, delivered the bomb, and until that

:06:51. > :06:53.network of people is found, this critical state of alert, having

:06:54. > :06:59.these hundreds of armed policemen and women on the streets of

:07:00. > :07:04.Manchester, soldiers in other cities as well, armed police on public

:07:05. > :07:08.transport, on trains for the first time, there is still a lot of

:07:09. > :07:12.tension here and until that network is found and neutralised we will

:07:13. > :07:17.remain in this position. We have also heard overnight that Greater

:07:18. > :07:19.Manchester Police have restarted their cooperation with American

:07:20. > :07:25.authorities, exchanging some of this very sensitive information they hope

:07:26. > :07:29.might help them achieve a breakthrough in the case. That

:07:30. > :07:34.cooperation had stopped because of excessive leaks on the American

:07:35. > :07:39.side. Greater Manchester Police felt it was actively disturbing and

:07:40. > :07:43.damaging their inquiries. After assurances from Washington, those

:07:44. > :07:45.links have now resumed and the exchange of this vital information

:07:46. > :07:49.will resume. Thank you for the update, where

:07:50. > :07:51.Davis there from Greater Manchester Police headquarters.

:07:52. > :07:53.Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:07:54. > :08:05.Theresa May is to urge the leaders of the world's most

:08:06. > :08:07.developed nations to do more to tackle extremism online.

:08:08. > :08:10.She's to make a speech at the G7 summit of leading

:08:11. > :08:19.Our diplomatic correspondent James Landale reports.

:08:20. > :08:23.Theresa May arrived in Sicily last night for her first G7 summit,

:08:24. > :08:25.a rare chance for her and just six other leaders to discuss

:08:26. > :08:27.the world's problems face-to-face around a table.

:08:28. > :08:30.And, as they gather in the ancient coastal town of Taormina,

:08:31. > :08:34.Above all from Donald Trump, who has made his doubts

:08:35. > :08:35.about multilateral groups like this well-known.

:08:36. > :08:37.At this summit, as ever, they'll discuss world trade,

:08:38. > :08:41.climate change, migration from north Africa across these very seas.

:08:42. > :08:45.But, after the events of recent days, almost inevitably

:08:46. > :08:48.the focus will be the fight against global terrorism.

:08:49. > :08:52.Theresa May will sit down formally with the US President,

:08:53. > :08:55.and discuss not just those leaks from the Manchester bombing

:08:56. > :08:58.investigation, but how she, he, and other G7 leaders can work

:08:59. > :09:02.together to fight extremism and terror plots online,

:09:03. > :09:04.with internet firms doing more, and a new international forum,

:09:05. > :09:16.I suspect Theresa May will say, "Look, let's all agree that we need

:09:17. > :09:20.a totally joined-up security effort, of the sort we have

:09:21. > :09:22.within the United Kingdom, amongst the G7 as a whole."

:09:23. > :09:25.But, if there is agreement among these heads of government over

:09:26. > :09:30.terror, they may fall out over other issues -

:09:31. > :09:32.international trade, climate change and global migration,

:09:33. > :09:34.areas where Mr Trump's smiles are not matched

:09:35. > :09:41.Travellers through Gatwick airport are suffering major

:09:42. > :09:44.problems with baggage disruption this morning.

:09:45. > :09:49.One passenger has said the situation is 'chaos'.

:09:50. > :09:51.Gatwick Airport has apologised for delays at check-in.

:09:52. > :09:56.It says some flights are departing without bags,

:09:57. > :10:02.and that they'll be forwarded to passengers' destinations.

:10:03. > :10:07.The US media is reporting President Trump's son-in-law

:10:08. > :10:09.and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner is under

:10:10. > :10:12.The inquiry is into Russian interference

:10:13. > :10:15.Reports say investigators believe Mr Kushner may have significant

:10:16. > :10:17.information relevant to their work, but this does not necessarily mean

:10:18. > :10:26.Scientists say new observations of the planet Jupiter have

:10:27. > :10:30.They have been studying detailed photographs sent back to earth

:10:31. > :10:34.Researchers say they have been amazed by the storms

:10:35. > :10:42.Dozens of hurricanes, each the size of Earth,

:10:43. > :10:49.An SOS signal made of rocks in a remote part of Western Australia

:10:50. > :10:51.has prompted fears that someone, or more than one person,

:10:52. > :10:57.The distress signal was spotted by a helicopter pilot,

:10:58. > :11:00.leading to a ground search by police, who had to reach the area

:11:01. > :11:08.Authorities have now appealed for public help after failing

:11:09. > :11:09.to find any indication of recent human activity.

:11:10. > :11:16.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:11:17. > :11:21.I want to bring you this which has just reached us, Labour has

:11:22. > :11:26.suspended one of its vice-chairman in Surrey after he suggested the

:11:27. > :11:31.Government itself could have been behind the Manchester bombing.

:11:32. > :11:35.Daniel Uihlein, the vice-chair in water, said, I would not put it past

:11:36. > :11:38.our establishment and right wing Government or Theresa May to blow up

:11:39. > :11:41.their own people in order to continue to secure power for

:11:42. > :11:45.themselves. The Labour Party has confirmed to

:11:46. > :11:50.BBC Surrey that he has since been suspended and today is the

:11:51. > :11:53.re-newspaper says the Conservative candidate Dominic Raab has described

:11:54. > :11:58.the comments as extremely offensive in countless ways as we pay our

:11:59. > :12:01.respects to the victims and try to show some solidarity.

:12:02. > :12:03.We will keep an eye on that and bring you any details as we are on

:12:04. > :12:05.air over the next two hours. Do get in touch with us

:12:06. > :12:07.throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

:12:08. > :12:21.at the standard network rate. Let's get some sports now with Hugh.

:12:22. > :12:24.Good to see you. Obviously Manchester at the moment, people are

:12:25. > :12:29.coping with the events that happened on Monday night but also people are

:12:30. > :12:33.trying to use sport as a way to get back to normality, if you like?

:12:34. > :12:37.Yes, it has of course been a devastating week for everyone in the

:12:38. > :12:41.country and at the epicentre of that is the city of Manchester. In recent

:12:42. > :12:45.days we have seen, as you have explained, and outpouring of grief

:12:46. > :12:47.in the city but also a sense of togetherness, evidenced by Tony

:12:48. > :13:04.Walsh's moving poem outside the town Hall on Tuesday,

:13:05. > :13:06.that music and sport are two of the things the city is famous for.

:13:07. > :13:08.Manchester United brought home the Europa League Trophy earlier this

:13:09. > :13:11.week and doubt there will be international sport in the heart of

:13:12. > :13:13.Manchester with the Great City Games today, helping to see a united

:13:14. > :13:16.Manchester carry on defiantly in the face of such a barbaric act. A

:13:17. > :13:18.solemn town in the mood. Former Olympic long jump champion Greg

:13:19. > :13:21.Rutherford will be there and says it is important to the sport and people

:13:22. > :13:27.show they will not let terrorists win. Also appearing in the ninth

:13:28. > :13:30.year the event has been stage is the Paralympic champion Jonnie Peacock

:13:31. > :13:33.who shared a similar view to Rutherford that the games can send a

:13:34. > :13:37.message of resilience to the world. These events are the ones that we

:13:38. > :13:40.need, we need to show that it doesn't stop us, I think that is

:13:41. > :13:44.what we showed great in this country, what we do a great job of

:13:45. > :13:48.it is we will wake up the next day, get on with our lives, stand-up,

:13:49. > :13:55.don't do our jobs, turned up to events and show our support

:13:56. > :13:58.together, and I think it is the absolute opposite response to what

:13:59. > :14:02.everyone wants but it is amazing to see, and I love it.

:14:03. > :14:07.The BBC will have full coverage of the event starting at 6pm tonight on

:14:08. > :14:13.BBC Two. Just to say as Robbie Great Manchester Run will go ahead this

:14:14. > :14:19.weekend, Europe's largest 10k run, a half marathon as well this time

:14:20. > :14:21.around. The organisers do, though, say there will be additional

:14:22. > :14:24.security measures in place. You can watch that on BBC One from lunchtime

:14:25. > :14:28.on Sunday. We will be speaking to someone

:14:29. > :14:32.taking part in the Great Manchester Run in the next few minutes as well.

:14:33. > :14:37.Let's talk about Wayne Rooney, slightly uncertain time for him,

:14:38. > :14:40.left out of the England squad? Yes, the Manchester United captain,

:14:41. > :14:43.officially the captain of England but missing out on his second

:14:44. > :14:55.consecutive squad for his country and now he has nothing but a clear

:14:56. > :14:57.some ahead of him. He says he will go away with his family and decide

:14:58. > :15:00.what is next. The 31-year-old has only started 15 league games for

:15:01. > :15:02.Manchester United this season and the England boss Gareth Southgate

:15:03. > :15:05.says that other players are playing exceptionally well so Wayne Rooney

:15:06. > :15:10.is left out on form. The man himself is now left pondering his future,

:15:11. > :15:14.and returned to his boyhood club Everton is a possibility, or perhaps

:15:15. > :15:19.a big-money move to China. He will be demanding ?600,000 a week for a

:15:20. > :15:24.move there. Rooney has said there are lots of offers on the table in

:15:25. > :15:27.England and abroad. He is record goal-scorer for his club and country

:15:28. > :15:31.but we understand United are after three or four stellar signings this

:15:32. > :15:35.summer, that means Rooney could well be on his way out of the pub.

:15:36. > :15:38.Indications are that his future will be dealt with sooner rather than

:15:39. > :15:39.later. We will catch up with you a bit

:15:40. > :15:48.later on. With the bank holiday weekend comes

:15:49. > :15:52.a serious of major sporting Manchester plays host

:15:53. > :15:58.to the Manchester City Games and the Great Manchester Run,

:15:59. > :16:02.the largest 10k run in Europe. On the music front

:16:03. > :16:05.the band The Courteeners, who are from Manchester,

:16:06. > :16:08.are also playing at Old Trafford's In London, it's FA Cup Final day

:16:09. > :16:15.at Wembley on Saturday. After some speculation

:16:16. > :16:17.that the events in Manchester would be cancelled, the deployment

:16:18. > :16:21.of troops at key sites in London has freed up armed officers

:16:22. > :16:23.to support other forces, that's according to

:16:24. > :16:24.the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police,

:16:25. > :16:26.Ian Hopkins. So what extra work has gone

:16:27. > :16:29.into preparing for the events in light of the attack

:16:30. > :16:33.at Manchester Arena on Monday? We can chat now to Lee Dodderidge

:16:34. > :16:36.is a director at Covenant Security and risk management,

:16:37. > :16:38.he's also a former member of the UK's National Counter

:16:39. > :16:40.Terrorism Security Office. Anthony Mundy, Operations Director

:16:41. > :16:43.at Emirates Old Trafford Cricket Ground where the Courteeners gig

:16:44. > :16:45.is happening on Saturday. Leigh Webber, who's running the 10k

:16:46. > :16:48.in Manchester on Sunday despite having had half

:16:49. > :17:03.a lung removed. Thank you all for joining us. I want

:17:04. > :17:07.to start, Leigh, in light of what happened on Monday, give us a sense

:17:08. > :17:13.of what is going on behind the scenes to improve security. There

:17:14. > :17:18.are a number of things they will be considering at the moment. They will

:17:19. > :17:25.have reviewed all the plans. These events are regular events. There is

:17:26. > :17:29.a tried and tested security operation in place which is

:17:30. > :17:33.critical. They will be adding additional measures to that. But

:17:34. > :17:38.there are differences between the venues. If you look at the

:17:39. > :17:41.difference between a stadium event where there will be tickets,

:17:42. > :17:45.compared to the Manchester run where there will be large areas of the

:17:46. > :17:49.route and the start and finish lines which are open to members of the

:17:50. > :17:55.public. There is a big security challenge. People should expect

:17:56. > :18:00.delays, but they will still be able to enjoy the event. There are a lot

:18:01. > :18:06.of challenges ahead for security, additional searches and other

:18:07. > :18:10.restrictions. Leigh, I cannot believe I said in that introduction

:18:11. > :18:15.that you had half a long removed in March. It is incredible you are

:18:16. > :18:19.contemplating running this event. How are you feeling after what has

:18:20. > :18:26.happened in the city? We can see you in front of all those floral

:18:27. > :18:30.tributes. I am just feeling now after what has happened, this

:18:31. > :18:37.terrible tragedy, it has made me and everyone else more determined to run

:18:38. > :18:42.and try to do Manchester pride. Like Tony Walsh said in the powerful poem

:18:43. > :18:48.in Manchester when things get tough we stand tall together and fight

:18:49. > :18:52.strong in the Manchester spirit way. Obviously everybody is quite

:18:53. > :18:56.apprehensive, but it will also be quite emotional and we are going to

:18:57. > :19:01.try and do our best to make Manchester proud. Did you have

:19:02. > :19:08.difficult conversations with your family about wanting to take part?

:19:09. > :19:13.Presumably they are concerned? Yes, they are quite concerned, but I

:19:14. > :19:20.think they also respect and understand our reasons why we feel

:19:21. > :19:24.even more determined to try and prove to Manchester that we can

:19:25. > :19:32.carry on the best we can. Anthony is standing next to you, in charge of

:19:33. > :19:38.security there at the Emirates Old Trafford cricket ground where the

:19:39. > :19:41.concert is on Saturday. What extra security have you implemented there

:19:42. > :19:47.in light of what has happened in the city? We have been planning for this

:19:48. > :19:50.event for over six months and we already have robust security plans

:19:51. > :19:56.in place. We do this on a regular basis. We have a few answers every

:19:57. > :20:01.year, we have international cricket, so we are used to put it on

:20:02. > :20:07.large-scale events. As part of our planning process we have multi

:20:08. > :20:10.agency meetings with the police, local authority, transport,

:20:11. > :20:14.licensing. There were robust plans already in place. Since the tragic

:20:15. > :20:21.events of Monday we have had numerous meetings with the police.

:20:22. > :20:24.We have had a lot of understanding from the police in terms of what

:20:25. > :20:30.additional security they advised us to put in place. We have done that

:20:31. > :20:35.and we will increase our checks. We advise people to come early because

:20:36. > :20:39.there will be searching. We advise people not to come with bags because

:20:40. > :20:43.that will slow down things. If you come with a bag, make sure it is a

:20:44. > :20:47.small one. The key thing is the support we have had from the pleas

:20:48. > :20:53.and the additional resources they will put in place around reinsurance

:20:54. > :20:57.is going to be massive. Whereas we would normally have a lot of

:20:58. > :21:02.security in and around the venue, we are increasing that and the police

:21:03. > :21:08.will be having security measures for the last mile and when people get on

:21:09. > :21:10.the train or the tram or their car, there will be a visible presence of

:21:11. > :21:17.the police to give people reinsurance. There is no increased

:21:18. > :21:21.security risk at our event, but it is about people getting on with

:21:22. > :21:26.their lives and getting Manchester back on track. It is interesting you

:21:27. > :21:30.talk about that. That was the vulnerable area in the Manchester

:21:31. > :21:36.attack. That area where you come out of security into the public area. I

:21:37. > :21:40.guess that is always the challenge, that you need to provide that

:21:41. > :21:45.security. There will always be a break in security somewhere, so how

:21:46. > :21:49.do you overcome that? It is striking the balance. All security has got to

:21:50. > :21:54.be proportionate to what the risk is. Sometimes we have had failings

:21:55. > :21:59.in the past and the security is there not to protect the buildings,

:22:00. > :22:05.but the people. They are one of the major assets you want to look after.

:22:06. > :22:09.But the start is probably easier to secure because people come in over a

:22:10. > :22:14.longer period of time in smaller numbers. It is at the end of the

:22:15. > :22:18.event when people come out en masse, which unfortunately was the incident

:22:19. > :22:23.in Manchester on Monday evening. Once people come out of the key

:22:24. > :22:27.thing to do once they are in the public domain is to disperse the

:22:28. > :22:30.crowd as quickly as possible. But you have to do it in a way that

:22:31. > :22:35.maintains the atmosphere of the event. The smaller groups provide

:22:36. > :22:41.less of a target, that is horrible to say, but that is reality, and we

:22:42. > :22:44.have to move them away as quickly as possible. Anthony, is that the sense

:22:45. > :22:50.of what you have been hearing as well in your planning? That has been

:22:51. > :22:54.one of the main focus areas, but there are other mitigation plans we

:22:55. > :22:58.have put in place with the police. It is about the whole customer

:22:59. > :23:03.journey from when people arrive in Manchester through to coming to the

:23:04. > :23:08.concert and getting home again. We are focusing on every area. The

:23:09. > :23:18.plans were robust before and they are now massively enhanced. We want

:23:19. > :23:22.people to have a fantastic time. The Courteeners have said they want to

:23:23. > :23:28.give Manchester a concept that they deserve. It is about holiday weekend

:23:29. > :23:34.and we do not want people to change their plans. But get here early, do

:23:35. > :23:38.not bring a bag, be supportive of each other, be patient. We have got

:23:39. > :23:47.four Northwest, Greater Manchester bands coming to hear on Saturday, it

:23:48. > :23:51.could not get any better. Leigh, I know you said it was important to

:23:52. > :23:56.send out this message that nothing was changing, we are carrying on.

:23:57. > :24:01.Have you thought about how you are getting there? Have you reassess

:24:02. > :24:08.your journey there? Has anything changed in your mind? I suppose I am

:24:09. > :24:17.an optimistic, positive person and I am hoping that when we get on the

:24:18. > :24:22.tram, we will be anxious, but I will just be hopeful really that

:24:23. > :24:25.everything will be OK. People often say in the aftermath of a tragedy

:24:26. > :24:30.that arguably that could be the safest time to be doing any of these

:24:31. > :24:34.things. In some bizarre way do you feel this could be the safest time

:24:35. > :24:40.to take part in this run because security is at the forefront of

:24:41. > :24:44.everybody's mind right now? I definitely feel like that. I came to

:24:45. > :24:49.the vigil on Tuesday evening and felt exactly like that. Now the

:24:50. > :24:54.safety is so out there that it is probably the best it could be

:24:55. > :25:01.really. Is that a logical thing to think or is that the public trying

:25:02. > :25:05.to make themselves feel safer? It is perfectly logical. I can remember

:25:06. > :25:08.similar conversations last year when we had the Euro Championships and

:25:09. > :25:14.the safest place would have been inside one of the stadiums. Because

:25:15. > :25:18.of additional security people will feel safer. It is interesting

:25:19. > :25:23.listening to the other guests that we need to maintain our way of life

:25:24. > :25:27.and go out and enjoy our events. People have to bear in mind there

:25:28. > :25:33.will be additional security and they have to be more aware. We cannot be

:25:34. > :25:36.defeated, but from a security perspective we have to realistically

:25:37. > :25:41.look at the threats and keep in mind it is still critical and there is

:25:42. > :25:46.still a network of potentially people out there wanting to cause

:25:47. > :25:50.harm to us. What would you say each of you to anybody watching this who

:25:51. > :25:55.is saying, I know what you are saying, I understand what you are

:25:56. > :26:00.saying, but I am scared to go out, I am scared to put my family and

:26:01. > :26:06.myself at risk? Leigh, what would you say to them? I suppose different

:26:07. > :26:11.people have got different ways of thinking, which is fair enough and

:26:12. > :26:14.we respect everybody and how they feel. But we would encourage them

:26:15. > :26:19.the best we can for the sake of Manchester and all the people to not

:26:20. > :26:24.let this beat us and carry on with as many events as we can and know

:26:25. > :26:29.that Manchester and the security is doing everything they can to keep us

:26:30. > :26:33.as safe as possible. Anthony, what would you say to somebody watching

:26:34. > :26:38.and thinking that? I would echo that. For me they have won if we

:26:39. > :26:44.change the way we carry on with what we are doing this weekend and every

:26:45. > :26:48.weekend in the future. We have got to be sympathetic and acknowledge

:26:49. > :26:55.what has gone on, but we do have to move forward. Otherwise they have

:26:56. > :26:59.beaten us. We are an entertainment venue and Manchester is a fantastic

:27:00. > :27:06.city and we want to put Manchester back on the map for the right

:27:07. > :27:12.reasons. I want to ask you, what from a security perspective is the

:27:13. > :27:15.greatest challenge to please and security? Later on we will be

:27:16. > :27:20.hearing from Alan Shearer talking about the FA Cup final, is that the

:27:21. > :27:23.biggest challenge in an enclosed environment, or is it the likes of

:27:24. > :27:28.the great Manchester run where you have so many people out on the

:27:29. > :27:34.street over a huge area? You are right, the run will be the biggest

:27:35. > :27:39.security challenge. With the two event, at the Emirates Stadium or

:27:40. > :27:46.with the FA Cup, these are well rehearsed events. Yes, there will be

:27:47. > :27:50.increased security, but it is completely different to the security

:27:51. > :27:56.required at what is an open-air event open to the members of the

:27:57. > :28:00.public. There is a longer route to consider as well. That will be the

:28:01. > :28:04.biggest challenge. People will have to bear in mind that whilst we have

:28:05. > :28:09.just had the recent Manchester attack, we saw how easily it was to

:28:10. > :28:12.have an attack at Westminster with a vehicle, so there are a number of

:28:13. > :28:17.different threats and that will be the challenge. It is achievable, but

:28:18. > :28:26.people will need to allow extra time to get into the area and there will

:28:27. > :28:29.be travel disruption. That will be the biggest security challenge,

:28:30. > :28:32.making sure everybody there is safe and secure and anybody coming to

:28:33. > :28:42.cause any harm is identifiable and dealt with. Before you go, Leigh,

:28:43. > :28:45.you have lost half along. You are training, you will be running ten

:28:46. > :28:51.kilometres. How has your preparation gone? As I had the operation three

:28:52. > :28:56.days after coming out of hospital I have been running every day to make

:28:57. > :29:02.me feel like I was training. Three weeks ago I started gently jogging

:29:03. > :29:07.again and I have done about 37 kilometre runs. I had to stop a few

:29:08. > :29:12.times, but I have done seven kilometres in an hour, so I am

:29:13. > :29:16.pleased with that. I am sure with all the adrenaline I will get to ten

:29:17. > :29:21.kilometres with all that 20 of us from the academy and my best friend

:29:22. > :29:26.Jane coming from Dorset. With all the support I am sure I will be fine

:29:27. > :29:31.to get to the finishing line. Best of luck, it is an incredible story.

:29:32. > :29:36.I hope you enjoy it. That you all for speaking to us. A couple of

:29:37. > :29:41.comments coming in to us here on Jeremy Corbyn's comments. David

:29:42. > :29:46.says, Jeremy Corbyn is getting closer to the mark, but it is not

:29:47. > :29:49.just our foreign policy. We looked at only what we can take from others

:29:50. > :29:53.and spent too little time considering what we can give.

:29:54. > :29:57.Supporting nations to develop by sensible use of foreign aid might

:29:58. > :30:02.have a far greater effect on promoting peace and stability in

:30:03. > :30:06.many of these countries. Stewart says, what Jeremy Corbyn is saying

:30:07. > :30:08.is right, you can support the soldiers but condemned the

:30:09. > :30:14.government for putting them in that situation. Jeremy says has Jeremy

:30:15. > :30:24.Corbyn not voted against anti-terror laws in his time? Another one,

:30:25. > :30:27.people, please buy Ariana Grande's record as a tribute.

:30:28. > :30:30.Long queues and disruption at Gatwick airport this morning,

:30:31. > :30:33.as a problem with the bagging system means some travellers are having

:30:34. > :30:45.Former England captain Alan Shearer tells us it will be hard to focus on

:30:46. > :30:48.the FA Cup final this weekend after the Manchester terror attack.

:30:49. > :30:54.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:55. > :30:56.The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will give a major speech today,

:30:57. > :30:59.in which he's expected to link British military action abroad

:31:00. > :31:06.He's making the comments as election campaigning resumes after the terror

:31:07. > :31:10.attack in Manchester, in which 22 people were killed.

:31:11. > :31:12.They've already come in for criticism on both sides

:31:13. > :31:15.And he's expected to say Labour would make

:31:16. > :31:35.Theresa May is to purge the leaders of the world's leading nations to do

:31:36. > :31:40.more to tackle extremism online. Leaders including Donald Trump and

:31:41. > :31:42.Emmanuel Macron of France, and Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel,

:31:43. > :31:48.will discuss issues including global security, trade and climate change.

:31:49. > :31:52.A baby has died after being found in a car during one of the hottest

:31:53. > :31:56.The seven-month-old girl was unresponsive when discovered

:31:57. > :31:58.in the vehicle in Dundrum village in County Tipperary

:31:59. > :32:02.She was airlifted to hospital but medics were unable to revive her.

:32:03. > :32:05.The baby was the only child of a local couple,

:32:06. > :32:09.and the incident is being treated as a tragedy.

:32:10. > :32:11.Travellers through Gatwick airport are suffering major

:32:12. > :32:12.problems with baggage disruption this morning.

:32:13. > :32:14.One passenger has said the situation is 'chaos'.

:32:15. > :32:22.Gatwick Airport has apologised for delays at check-in.

:32:23. > :32:28.The US media is reporting President Trump's son-in-law

:32:29. > :32:30.and senior White House adviser Jared Kushner is under

:32:31. > :32:33.The inquiry is into Russian interference

:32:34. > :32:37.Reports say investigators believe Mr Kushner may have significant

:32:38. > :32:40.information relevant to their work, but this does not necessarily mean

:32:41. > :32:48.An SOS signal made of rocks in a remote part of Western Australia

:32:49. > :32:50.has prompted fears that someone, or more than one person,

:32:51. > :32:54.The distress signal was spotted by a helicopter pilot,

:32:55. > :32:58.leading to a ground search by police, who had to reach the area

:32:59. > :33:03.Authorities have now appealed for public help after failing

:33:04. > :33:06.to find any indication of recent human activity.

:33:07. > :33:14.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10am.

:33:15. > :33:31.Paralympic sprint Champion Jonny Peacock says sport can help show

:33:32. > :33:38.The Great City Games in Manchester will go ahead in Manchester today

:33:39. > :33:39.among heightened security in the city.

:33:40. > :33:45.Manchester City's women beat Chelsea 1-0 in the first

:33:46. > :33:47.significant sporting event to take place in Manchester,

:33:48. > :33:50.Hull City say they are "disappointed" at Marco's Silva's

:33:51. > :33:54.Silva, who has been linked with a host of jobs in England

:33:55. > :33:56.and Europe, has left the club following their relegation

:33:57. > :33:59.That is all the sport for now, we will be back with more just after

:34:00. > :34:04.10am. Lots of you getting in touch about

:34:05. > :34:07.security concerns ahead of the bank holiday weekend, many events going

:34:08. > :34:11.ahead, we were just talking to people taking part in the Great

:34:12. > :34:14.Manchester Run. We have had a tweet saying, going ahead with the run is

:34:15. > :34:19.reckless, cancel it! Too much of a soft target. Matt has

:34:20. > :34:23.text in to say, many of my friends are doing the 10k run, we are

:34:24. > :34:27.students at the University of Manchester, they are concerned and

:34:28. > :34:43.we have got exams next week. Another

:34:44. > :34:47.says, I will be volunteering at the Great Manchester Run. I and others,

:34:48. > :34:51.I am in two minds as to whether the run should have gone ahead. It is OK

:34:52. > :34:54.for people to save we have to carry on, but do they feel like carrying

:34:55. > :34:55.on? I can't imagine how I would feel losing someone that I loved.

:34:56. > :34:57.Passengers at Gatwick Airport have been facing long queues

:34:58. > :34:59.and disruption morning, after a problem with

:35:00. > :35:02.One traveller described the scene as 'chaos', with some planes

:35:03. > :35:05.With me is our correspondent Andy Moore.

:35:06. > :35:08.You would not be very happy if you were going on holiday before the

:35:09. > :35:12.bank holiday and half-time without a suitcase, what is going on?

:35:13. > :35:15.A busy day for the airport, when you turn up and checked in, you check in

:35:16. > :35:19.your suitcase and it goes off on the automated baggage system to the

:35:20. > :35:23.aircraft, that has broken down so they have to revert to a manual

:35:24. > :35:27.system. That is causing a lot of problems and delays, a lot of cues,

:35:28. > :35:39.and it means planes are taking off on time but some people are being

:35:40. > :35:40.told their suitcases are not on that plane, so a lot of people angry

:35:41. > :35:43.about that. The priority for the airline is to

:35:44. > :35:45.get the plane off on time and the baggage follows afterwards?

:35:46. > :35:49.Yes, the airline is saying that when the system is fixed to the baggage

:35:50. > :35:53.will be put on the next available plane and you will be reunited with

:35:54. > :35:57.its doing. They said they are trying to resolve it as soon as possible

:35:58. > :36:01.but it has not been fixed yet. It is affecting a lot of airlines,

:36:02. > :36:03.EasyJet, one of the biggest, have issued a statement to their

:36:04. > :36:09.customers saying a number of flights are departing without all of the

:36:10. > :36:11.luggage in the hold, EasyJet takes well-being of passengers very

:36:12. > :36:15.seriously and they are working closely with Apple to return luggage

:36:16. > :36:20.to passengers as soon as possible. It is worth emphasising this is

:36:21. > :36:24.people leaving the airport, North and South terminals, it does not

:36:25. > :36:27.seem to be affecting incoming passengers so if you are arriving at

:36:28. > :36:31.Gatwick you should be able to bind your luggage OK.

:36:32. > :36:35.Any idea how long it will last? The Allied has been saying all

:36:36. > :36:38.morning they are working to resolve it as quickly as possible but at the

:36:39. > :36:41.moment it is still not fixed. Thank you for telling us about that.

:36:42. > :36:43.Coming up... Former England captain and Newcastle

:36:44. > :36:46.striker Alan Shearer talks to us about security at football matches

:36:47. > :36:53.and the upcoming FA Cup final. Before Monday's terror

:36:54. > :36:55.attack, the election But the tragic events stopped it

:36:56. > :37:03.immediately in its track. Politicians put their differences

:37:04. > :37:07.aside as a mark of respect and this morning all of the main parties will

:37:08. > :37:08.begin campaigning again, but how will be terror attack have changed

:37:09. > :37:12.things? Let's talk now to Joe

:37:13. > :37:13.Twyman from YouGov. He says a terrorist attack amidst

:37:14. > :37:16.an election is a "political tightrope that is hard

:37:17. > :37:18.for anyone to walk". Charlie Cooper is political

:37:19. > :37:20.correspondent for Politico magazine. And Polly Mackenzie was a special

:37:21. > :37:30.advisor to former Deputy Prime Thank you all for coming in to speak

:37:31. > :37:34.to us. Charlie, I want to ask first of all, how much do you think the

:37:35. > :37:38.tone of this campaign is going to change in light of the awful events

:37:39. > :37:44.in Manchester? I think when we look back at this election, we will see

:37:45. > :37:48.that the terrible events in Manchester on Monday will completely

:37:49. > :37:51.overshadow it. We spoke to a Labour MP in Manchester visit, you want to

:37:52. > :37:57.be upbeat on the doorstep and present a positive vision. He said

:37:58. > :38:00.it is impossible to bring that to the campaign in the shadow of this

:38:01. > :38:06.event so it will completely change the mood, I am sure. Polly, you were

:38:07. > :38:10.a special adviser to Nick Clegg. How do politicians play this? As Charlie

:38:11. > :38:14.said, you don't want to be too upbeat, you don't want to go for the

:38:15. > :38:18.jugular as you might have done against political opponents, is this

:38:19. > :38:24.about having more unity? As Charlie said, the tone will be more subdued,

:38:25. > :38:29.politicians, especially front bench politicians, won't want to be seen

:38:30. > :38:33.to make political hay out of a terrible murder, murderous attack,

:38:34. > :38:38.but nevertheless we do see Jeremy Corbyn today coming out with a

:38:39. > :38:42.speech talking about who is to blame and the complex causality of

:38:43. > :38:47.international terrorism, trying to sort of capitalise on it in a way

:38:48. > :38:50.that is not just blaming the other party, and actually you see at the

:38:51. > :38:54.grassroots and probably in the social media the invisible campaign

:38:55. > :38:58.that is going on, lots more much more aggressive campaigning, where

:38:59. > :39:09.people are playing the blame game. Joe, let's talk about the Ueberroth

:39:10. > :39:13.poll -- you golf poll. In public opinion terms we have entered a

:39:14. > :39:16.third stage of the election, the first was dominated by Theresa May

:39:17. > :39:20.and the Conservatives, after that and after the issue around social

:39:21. > :39:24.care, we saw Jeremy Corbyn and Labour close the gap on the

:39:25. > :39:29.Conservatives, and now most recently we are entering this new stage with

:39:30. > :39:33.the Conservatives now five points ahead, and that is down on where

:39:34. > :39:40.they were last time but this is the first poll that has been conducted

:39:41. > :39:43.since the attack. Is it also the first one since the social care

:39:44. > :39:47.U-turn so I guess you could have gone lower in people's ideas,

:39:48. > :39:52.Theresa May, and then come back? When you look at the underlying

:39:53. > :39:56.data, not just voting intention but things like leadership ratings, you

:39:57. > :39:59.see that the gap continued to close between Labour and the

:40:00. > :40:03.Conservatives, between Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May, but then it opened

:40:04. > :40:14.back up again, so it suggests that at the moment there is a slight bit

:40:15. > :40:17.of momentum in favour of Theresa May. The question we have is how

:40:18. > :40:19.long will this last? It is impossible to know. The next few

:40:20. > :40:22.days will be crucial with the kinds of announcements we are talking

:40:23. > :40:24.about, and the poll that we have coming out on Sunday will offer an

:40:25. > :40:26.indication of whether this momentum is being maintained, whether this

:40:27. > :40:30.third stage will favour the Conservatives or whether we are

:40:31. > :40:34.entering a new moment. Charlie, these comments by Jeremy Corbyn

:40:35. > :40:37.today, he will make a speech later on saying there is a direct

:40:38. > :40:42.correlation between foreign policy in the UK and what happens on our

:40:43. > :40:47.streets. Do you think that is a wise move by him? The Conservatives have

:40:48. > :40:52.said it is inappropriate right now. I think it will resonate with some

:40:53. > :40:57.people, but I think a better strategy would have been to get back

:40:58. > :41:01.to what they were talking about before this horrible attack because,

:41:02. > :41:05.as we have seen in the polls, their manifesto commitment on scrapping

:41:06. > :41:11.tuition fees, the ?10 minimum wage, on more money for the NHS, that was

:41:12. > :41:14.cutting through and it was popular, whereas the Conservative manifesto

:41:15. > :41:18.debacle around social care really hit Theresa May, and I think it

:41:19. > :41:20.would have been better to get back to the strong territory they were on

:41:21. > :41:40.prior to this awful attack on Monday. After the attack, I

:41:41. > :41:43.wonder from each of you whether you think there will be more now on

:41:44. > :41:45.leadership, because often in a time of tragedy in this country people

:41:46. > :41:48.are looking for a strong leader and we know that Theresa May is going

:41:49. > :41:51.for the strong and stable method, does it play into her hands? I think

:41:52. > :41:54.it has do, you don't have to look hard on the leadership ratings to

:41:55. > :41:56.see Theresa May outperforms on those. Some of Labour's spending and

:41:57. > :41:59.public service messages were working for them. If this is an election

:42:00. > :42:01.where, on election day at the ballot box, people are thinking about

:42:02. > :42:06.leadership, they will choose Theresa May. The Labour numbers are

:42:07. > :42:10.fascinating but probably quite soft. There is a lot of historical data

:42:11. > :42:14.that shows when it comes to specific policies, that is not what people

:42:15. > :42:17.vote, instead it is the broad narratives that we tell ourselves

:42:18. > :42:22.and each other about leadership, trust, unity, all these things, and

:42:23. > :42:24.this has been the focus of the Conservative campaign throughout the

:42:25. > :42:31.campaign period. Labour, on the other hand, tried to build buzz on

:42:32. > :42:34.specific policies. It worked well when Theresa May and her abilities

:42:35. > :42:39.were called into question around the issue of social care, but it wasn't

:42:40. > :42:42.the issue of social care that was causing the change but the

:42:43. > :42:46.questioning of her strength and stability. I think it is inevitable

:42:47. > :42:52.that in a time of heightened anxiety voters are more likely to go with

:42:53. > :42:54.what they know, which will be beneficial for any incumbent,

:42:55. > :42:58.particularly one that markets themselves as strong and stable,

:42:59. > :43:01.strong and stable, so it may be an advantage for Theresa May, I don't

:43:02. > :43:05.think she is planning to exploit in any specific way but it will be the

:43:06. > :43:09.way people feel after such a horrible event as Monday. We have

:43:10. > :43:13.got a couple of weeks before election day. I have travelled up

:43:14. > :43:23.and down the country in the last few weeks speaking to voters, sitting

:43:24. > :43:25.down and having conversations with voters, and everywhere I go, whether

:43:26. > :43:27.Scotland, Northern Ireland, North of England, South of England, people

:43:28. > :43:31.are saying, this is about Brexit. That was prior to Monday's attack.

:43:32. > :43:36.Do you think everyone now will shift toward security? If you look at Jo

:43:37. > :43:40.Cox's murder ahead of the Brexit event, many people thought it would

:43:41. > :43:45.be a tribute to Jo Cox to vote Remain but that did not happen. I

:43:46. > :43:48.think what happened after Jo Cox in terms of the election campaign was

:43:49. > :43:51.that it just went down a notch in terms of volume but the messages

:43:52. > :44:01.were still out there on the doorstep and it didn't change anything. Over

:44:02. > :44:05.the course of the next two weeks, it is amazing, people think it is the

:44:06. > :44:08.Brexit campaign but the national politicians have not been talking

:44:09. > :44:12.about Brexit particularly, it has been much more about social care and

:44:13. > :44:16.public services. I think the Conservatives will, as we head

:44:17. > :44:21.towards polling day, try to pull it back to security, Brexit at those

:44:22. > :44:25.things where they do really well. What is ironic is that it is much

:44:26. > :44:28.easier to defend security if we are part of Europe, Europol and the

:44:29. > :44:33.European arrest warrant, but they will try not to mention that. I

:44:34. > :44:37.spoke to people in Manchester about this topic, how it will affect how

:44:38. > :44:43.they vote, but a lot of people did not make that connection, they

:44:44. > :44:46.thought it is above politics and God immediately on to questions like

:44:47. > :44:50.leadership and policies so I think there will be an extent to which

:44:51. > :44:54.people put the tragedy of Monday in a different category in their mind

:44:55. > :44:58.to the election. When you ask people what they vote on, there is a

:44:59. > :45:02.multitude of answers people give and Brexit is the most important issue

:45:03. > :45:07.facing the country, according to our polls, but the questions people ask

:45:08. > :45:19.themselves, even when they are in the polling booths, who do I

:45:20. > :45:23.trust, who do I think will do the right thing for this country, who do

:45:24. > :45:26.I think can do the right thing for people like me? Those are the kinds

:45:27. > :45:29.of questions each of the parties will attempt to provide answers for

:45:30. > :45:31.between now and election day. How many people make that decision in

:45:32. > :45:34.the polling booths? I have spoken to so many people who have said, I

:45:35. > :45:36.probably won't decide until I get there. It is different this time

:45:37. > :45:39.around because last time the country had five years, the voters and

:45:40. > :45:42.country had five years to prepare, this time we have had five weeks.

:45:43. > :45:46.There is a lot more movement in the polls this time as people go from,

:45:47. > :45:50.actually, this is happening, this is real, I'm starting to think about

:45:51. > :45:54.this and engage with this, and what we have seen it a reduction in the

:45:55. > :45:57.numbers of people saying they don't know who they will vote for,

:45:58. > :46:02.particularly among former voters from Labour in 2015, and that could

:46:03. > :46:20.be crucial because it is not just about voting intention but

:46:21. > :46:24.whether people choose to turn out to vote or not. Another thing I want to

:46:25. > :46:27.mention is police cuts, Jeremy Corbyn will pick up on that today

:46:28. > :46:29.saying the likes of Monday's attack may not have happened if there had

:46:30. > :46:32.been more money given to police, Amber Rudd saying last night on

:46:33. > :46:34.Question Time, the Home Secretary, these are two very different things.

:46:35. > :46:37.It is unfortunate that one of the things that has cut through in this

:46:38. > :46:39.election is Diane Abbott making a mess of her announcement of more

:46:40. > :46:41.police. People are sceptical of this narrative that crime is falling even

:46:42. > :46:44.though police numbers are falling but nonetheless it doesn't quite get

:46:45. > :46:52.up to the level of votes winding decision, I don't think. I agree, it

:46:53. > :46:55.is not just Jeremy Corbyn saying police cuts are concerned, the

:46:56. > :47:03.Police Federation... They would say that. They would, they warned two

:47:04. > :47:09.years ago, even cuts in community policing could affect intelligence

:47:10. > :47:12.gathering so Labour have something just a point there but I don't think

:47:13. > :47:16.it will cut through this late in the campaign. It is an extraordinarily

:47:17. > :47:19.difficult time for people, whether Conservative or Labour, they have to

:47:20. > :47:23.think carefully how they address this in the next few days. Thank you

:47:24. > :47:28.all very much, we are out of time but I appreciate you speaking to us.

:47:29. > :47:31.The attack on Monday has cast a long shadow over sport this week.

:47:32. > :47:33.In an emotional night in Stockholm, Manchester United won

:47:34. > :47:37.the Europa League and this weekend troops will join police in a tightly

:47:38. > :47:39.controlled operation for the FA Cup Final at Wembley.

:47:40. > :47:42.90,000 fans will head to the stadium in North London to watch

:47:43. > :47:44.Arsene Wenger's Arsenal take on Antonio Conte's Premier

:47:45. > :47:50.We can chat about that more now with former England captain

:47:51. > :48:01.Allen, thank you for coming in. Before we can talk about the

:48:02. > :48:04.football, we need to talk about what has happened in Manchester this

:48:05. > :48:12.week. Many people will be heading to the FA Cup final at Wembley and

:48:13. > :48:15.security will be a worry for them. Absolutely, not only will it be on

:48:16. > :48:20.their minds tomorrow, but it will be on our minds for the rest of our

:48:21. > :48:25.lives because of what has gone on in Manchester this week and my heart

:48:26. > :48:28.goes out to everyone who has been affected by it. Trying to get back

:48:29. > :48:33.to some normality with a football match is going to be very difficult.

:48:34. > :48:38.After all football is irrelevant, but we have got to try and somehow

:48:39. > :48:43.concentrate on the match which I think will be very difficult for a

:48:44. > :48:48.lot of people. When we look at football it has not been immune,

:48:49. > :48:53.sadly. If you look back to 2015 and the suicide attacks in France. Do

:48:54. > :48:56.you think more needs to be done to secure football stadiums? It is so

:48:57. > :49:03.difficult when you have got tens of thousands of people in one area. It

:49:04. > :49:07.is difficult to step up the security. People have to be vigilant

:49:08. > :49:12.and look out, but when there are thousands of supporting people at a

:49:13. > :49:16.sporting event on their way in and on their way out, not necessarily in

:49:17. > :49:20.the stadium, it is difficult to police. Do you think clubs need to

:49:21. > :49:27.take more responsibility? You can have security in the stadium, but as

:49:28. > :49:33.the public get outside, is it the public's responsibility to do more

:49:34. > :49:38.or the club's responsibility? It is up to everyone to be vigilant. I

:49:39. > :49:41.think it is difficult and I have got sympathy because there are so many

:49:42. > :49:45.thousands of people there walking in and out. It is difficult for the

:49:46. > :49:53.police to look after that. Let's talk about the football. Arsenal

:49:54. > :49:57.need this. Fifth in the Premier League, no Champions League football

:49:58. > :50:02.for the first time in 20 years. Yes, they need a trophy. I am still not

:50:03. > :50:07.certain that will appease a lot of the Arsenal fans. Even if they win

:50:08. > :50:11.that game tomorrow, they will be saying things about Arsene Wenger's

:50:12. > :50:16.feature. But some of the players have hidden behind that as an excuse

:50:17. > :50:20.this season and it has affected the team and the decision whether he is

:50:21. > :50:24.staying or going because at times their performance on the pitch has

:50:25. > :50:28.not been good enough this season. Chelsea will go into the game full

:50:29. > :50:34.of confidence after winning the league, so it should be a good game.

:50:35. > :50:40.Problems for Arsenal defensively, all manner of problems going on. Not

:50:41. > :50:44.only defensively, they have got injury concerns. Alexis Sanchez came

:50:45. > :50:49.on we think maybe with a hamstring injury seven days or so ago. Yes,

:50:50. > :50:55.they have got one or two problems going into the game. But they should

:50:56. > :50:59.not use that as an excuse. They have got to go and put a performance in

:51:00. > :51:05.to win the trophy for the manager. How hard would it be? Chelsea are

:51:06. > :51:08.flying high, they have got no injuries and Antonio Conte has done

:51:09. > :51:12.what so many people thought he could never do. He has had a magnificent

:51:13. > :51:16.season. He has connected that dressing room again because it was

:51:17. > :51:25.all over the place when he took the job. All the decisions he has made

:51:26. > :51:31.this evening, leaving players in and out, the talk of Diego Costa going

:51:32. > :51:34.to China, I think he has handled it perfectly all season. No injury

:51:35. > :51:39.concerns, they go into the game full of confidence and they will be on a

:51:40. > :51:45.high. Your money is on Chelsea? Yes, if I were supporting the team, but,

:51:46. > :51:51.I want a great game and lows of goals, but I think Chelsea will win.

:51:52. > :51:54.You have said the question hanging over Arsene Wenger has been a real

:51:55. > :51:59.problem this season. He has said he did not know whether he would be the

:52:00. > :52:04.manager, Sunday. No one can ever deny his love or his passion for

:52:05. > :52:08.that football club and how successful he has been, but there is

:52:09. > :52:12.no doubt about it that the lack of decision making, whether he is

:52:13. > :52:19.staying or going, has affected the club and performances on the pitch.

:52:20. > :52:22.That has been a real concern. I cannot understand, and a lot of

:52:23. > :52:28.people cannot understand, what is going on behind the scenes, whether

:52:29. > :52:31.he is staying or going. But his players owe him a performance

:52:32. > :52:35.tomorrow and they need to go out and win the FA Cup. Should he have

:52:36. > :52:41.walked earlier in the season? Should he have said because of the sake of

:52:42. > :52:46.the club, it is a distraction, I am going? I do not think he should have

:52:47. > :52:51.walked at all. I would never say and manager of his stature and a manager

:52:52. > :52:55.who has been so successful at that football club should have been

:52:56. > :52:59.sacked or he should walk. He will make the decision for what he feels

:53:00. > :53:06.is right. There is a huge divide within the camp and the fans at

:53:07. > :53:10.Arsenal, what they want him to do. It is very difficult seeing a man of

:53:11. > :53:14.his ability and his stature being criticised as much as he has done

:53:15. > :53:20.because of what he has done for the football club. Let's talk about some

:53:21. > :53:25.of the big names. Concerns for next season when you are seeing the likes

:53:26. > :53:29.of Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil might not be there. That is a

:53:30. > :53:34.greater worry for the Arsenal fans. At the minute all they should focus

:53:35. > :53:39.on is putting in a performance for the manager at the FA Cup final.

:53:40. > :53:43.Then they sort out their issues after the game. You have mentioned

:53:44. > :53:47.Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil, they are two of the players, maybe more

:53:48. > :53:52.so Mesut Ozil because he has scored goals and been one of the best

:53:53. > :53:56.players, but he needs to go out and perform in one of the big games

:53:57. > :54:02.against one of the big clubs. What is it like playing in an FA Cup

:54:03. > :54:07.final? It is brilliant but only if you win it. I did not want to

:54:08. > :54:12.mention that. I am not so sure I was lucky, but I played at Wembley in

:54:13. > :54:16.two FA Cup finals and came out on the wrong side. Wembley is only a

:54:17. > :54:20.place for winners. You are a professional. It should not make any

:54:21. > :54:26.difference whether you are playing against Hull on a cold Monday night

:54:27. > :54:30.or in an FA Cup final, but you must feel it? You feel the excitement,

:54:31. > :54:35.there is a huge buzz around the stadium and it has been going on all

:54:36. > :54:39.week now. As a player you want to get out and onto the pitch and start

:54:40. > :54:44.the 90 minutes and hopefully come out on the right side. Do you read

:54:45. > :54:49.the papers or watch interviews in the run-up, or does it distract you

:54:50. > :54:56.as a player? I did not mind reading newspapers or watching TV and the

:54:57. > :55:01.build-up, I enjoyed it. But there is pressure? Pressure should not affect

:55:02. > :55:05.you, you are used to playing in big games. A lot of these players play

:55:06. > :55:09.for the national side and have been successful before and they have won

:55:10. > :55:15.league titles and FA Cups. That should not affect them at all.

:55:16. > :55:20.Chelsea, looking ahead, you would expect them to win tomorrow, a great

:55:21. > :55:25.first season for Antonio Conte. Do they need to bring players in or do

:55:26. > :55:29.they stick with what they have got? I think they will improve. I think

:55:30. > :55:34.they will go out and make signings. You have to do that as a football

:55:35. > :55:39.club, particularly when you have been successful, and Chelsea will go

:55:40. > :55:43.out and spend a fortune, very much like the other big clubs will. I

:55:44. > :55:49.think they will sign two or three big hitters to improve their team.

:55:50. > :55:54.So, tomorrow, what does a day in tail for footballers as they head

:55:55. > :56:00.out? Do they keep the same routine? I am interested to know how you

:56:01. > :56:04.prepare. You get up and make the day as normal as possible, but it is

:56:05. > :56:08.that little bit more special. You will have your pre-match and your

:56:09. > :56:13.breakfast and you might go for a walk. The manager will go through

:56:14. > :56:17.the team talk and the set pieces again to remind you as a player. But

:56:18. > :56:22.once you walk out of the tunnel and cross the white line, it is up to

:56:23. > :56:28.the players, they have to perform. What do Arsenal need to do? Is it an

:56:29. > :56:33.early goal against Chelsea? Sometimes these FA Cup finals are

:56:34. > :56:38.hyped. You have got two fantastic side and it can be a bit of a damp

:56:39. > :56:43.squib. I do not think it is in the nature of these teams to sit back.

:56:44. > :56:48.Both will try and get an early feel of the ball and keep possession. It

:56:49. > :56:52.is vital for Arsenal that they do not concede early. There will be

:56:53. > :56:57.some negativity around, so they will try and feel their way into the

:56:58. > :57:01.game. They will get a good pass to set up their confidence. All in all

:57:02. > :57:11.because of the players on show, I think it should be very good

:57:12. > :57:16.spectacle I and hoping so anyway. Extra needle because of the size?

:57:17. > :57:21.You desperately want to win the game. These teams have begun the

:57:22. > :57:25.competition in January and they both have been working hard for this and

:57:26. > :57:34.you do not want to let your fans down. Let's get the latest weather.

:57:35. > :57:35.I am scared to say this. It is a bank holiday weekend, is the rain

:57:36. > :57:47.coming? It is, but it is a bit more

:57:48. > :57:52.complicated. It will change. There are thunderstorms on the way, but

:57:53. > :57:56.there is dry weather to be had as well. I will give you all the

:57:57. > :58:01.details in the next couple of minutes. There is a fair bit going

:58:02. > :58:06.on, but not much has changed just yet. For the time being we have got

:58:07. > :58:14.plenty of dry weather and sunshine across England, Wales, sunny skies

:58:15. > :58:20.in Northern Ireland and up across Scotland there is sunshine to be

:58:21. > :58:24.had. Yesterday in Aberdeen we got up to 28 degrees. Parts of northern

:58:25. > :58:29.Scotland today could have the hottest weather, potentially as high

:58:30. > :58:34.as 30 degrees. Sunny skies for all of us. A bit breezy and cooler close

:58:35. > :58:38.to the coasts. Whether you have a breeze or not, the sun is strong

:58:39. > :58:49.with particularly high UV levels at the moment. Along the south coast

:58:50. > :58:57.temperatures might be pegged back. Inland it is 28 or 29. Later on in

:58:58. > :59:02.the day this is the first sign of change. Scotland stays largely dry

:59:03. > :59:07.again. 30 degrees is possible potentially for Caithness and

:59:08. > :59:12.Sutherland. Many of us will have a fine evening and dry night. But out

:59:13. > :59:18.west these are gathering and beginning to bear down on us and

:59:19. > :59:24.they get into Northern Ireland by the end of the night. That is the

:59:25. > :59:30.storyboard tomorrow, areas of heavy, thundery downpours courtesy of this

:59:31. > :59:34.low pressure. This will be moving northwards and eastwards across

:59:35. > :59:38.England and Wales. Behind them things will dry up again with some

:59:39. > :59:44.sunshine. There could be more persistent rain in Northern Ireland

:59:45. > :59:52.and Scotland. Things will turn a bit pressure from the West. But in the

:59:53. > :59:58.South East it will be 27 in London. Northern Scotland in the high 20s

:59:59. > :00:03.again. On Sunday there is plenty of dry and fine weather. It will be a

:00:04. > :00:07.bit pressure, but some thunderstorms working their way up from the south

:00:08. > :00:12.and there could be heavy thundery rain on Sunday night and into

:00:13. > :00:19.Monday. Then we will see some sunny spells returning and by this stage

:00:20. > :00:24.it is fresh air, but potentially humid in the South East. To sum

:00:25. > :00:30.things up, it is a bit more mixed on this bank holiday than we have had

:00:31. > :00:33.over the past couple of days. There will be some sunshine, but thundery

:00:34. > :00:44.downpours as well and over the weekend it will turn a bit fresher.

:00:45. > :00:46.Hello, it's Friday, it's 10am, I'm Chloe Tilly.

:00:47. > :00:49.The war on terror is not working, says Jeremy Corbyn.

:00:50. > :00:51.The Labour leader says he's promising change

:00:52. > :00:54.But the Conservatives have criticised his comments.

:00:55. > :00:56.I think Jeremy Corbyn's comments are totally

:00:57. > :01:06.Police say eight men arrested in connection with Monday's attack in

:01:07. > :01:17.Manchester are all suspected of terror offences and aged between 18

:01:18. > :01:24.and 38. We will have the latest. Plus, Theresa May is expected to

:01:25. > :01:28.urge G-7 leaders to do more to tackle online extremism.

:01:29. > :01:30.Also in the programme, we'll have the extraordinary story

:01:31. > :01:33.of a how a man who was abandoned as a baby tracked down his

:01:34. > :01:35.siblings with nothing more than a sample of his DNA.

:01:36. > :01:47.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:48. > :01:53.Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn is expected to give a speech shortly in

:01:54. > :01:58.which he links terrorism in the UK to military action abroad. He makes

:01:59. > :02:03.the comment as campaigning resumes after the attack in Manchester. Our

:02:04. > :02:08.assistant political editor Norman Smith will be at the speech for us

:02:09. > :02:11.with all of the details. Greater Manchester Police have in

:02:12. > :02:15.the last two minutes at eight men arrested in connection with the

:02:16. > :02:20.Manchester bomb attacks are all suspected of terror offences and are

:02:21. > :02:23.aged between 18 and 38. Overnight there was another arrest and more

:02:24. > :02:28.police searches, including at an address in the St Helens area of

:02:29. > :02:31.Merseyside, as police continue investigations into a possible wider

:02:32. > :02:37.network. A 16-year-old boy has been released without charge.

:02:38. > :02:41.Armed police have begun patrolling national rail services following

:02:42. > :02:44.Monday's terror attack. It is the first time firearms officers have

:02:45. > :02:47.been deployed on British Railways although there have been controlled

:02:48. > :02:51.on London Underground since December. The terror threat remains

:02:52. > :02:52.at critical meaning security services believe another attack

:02:53. > :02:54.could be imminent. Theresa May is to urge

:02:55. > :02:57.the leaders of the world's most developed nations to do more

:02:58. > :02:59.to tackle extremism online. She's to make a speech

:03:00. > :03:01.at the G7 summit of leading Our diplomatic correspondent

:03:02. > :03:05.James Landale reports. Theresa May is to purge the leaders

:03:06. > :03:18.of the world's leading nations to do Her first G-7 summit is a rare

:03:19. > :03:19.chance for her and six other leaders to discuss the worlds problems

:03:20. > :03:23.face-to-face around the table. And, as they gather in the ancient

:03:24. > :03:26.coastal town of Taormina, Above all from Donald Trump,

:03:27. > :03:30.who has made his doubts about multilateral groups

:03:31. > :03:32.like this well-known. At this summit, as ever,

:03:33. > :03:35.they'll discuss world trade, climate change, migration from north

:03:36. > :03:38.Africa across these very seas. But, after the events of recent

:03:39. > :03:40.days, almost inevitably the focus will be the fight

:03:41. > :03:44.against global terrorism. Theresa May will sit down formally

:03:45. > :03:47.with the US President, and discuss not just those leaks

:03:48. > :03:52.from the Manchester bombing investigation but how she, he,

:03:53. > :03:55.and other G7 leaders can work together to fight extremism

:03:56. > :03:57.and terror plots online, with internet firms doing more,

:03:58. > :04:01.and a new international forum, I suspect Theresa May will say,

:04:02. > :04:06."Look, let's all agree that we need a totally joined-up security effort,

:04:07. > :04:10.of the sort we have within the United Kingdom,

:04:11. > :04:18.amongst the G7 as a whole." But, if there is agreement among

:04:19. > :04:21.these heads of government over terror, they may fall out over other

:04:22. > :04:23.issues - international trade, climate change and global migration,

:04:24. > :04:26.areas where Mr Trump's smiles are not matched

:04:27. > :04:27.by his G7 colleagues. Travellers through Gatwick

:04:28. > :04:37.airport are suffering major problems with baggage

:04:38. > :04:40.disruption this morning. One passenger has said

:04:41. > :04:42.the situation is 'chaos'. Gatwick Airport has apologised

:04:43. > :04:45.for delays at check in. It says some flights

:04:46. > :04:47.are departing without bags, and that they'll be forwarded

:04:48. > :04:52.to passenger destinations. A baby has died after being found

:04:53. > :04:56.in a car during one of the hottest The seven-month-old girl

:04:57. > :04:59.was unresponsive when discovered in the vehicle in Dundrum village

:05:00. > :05:01.in County Tipperary She was airlifted to hospital but

:05:02. > :05:07.medics were unable to revive her. The baby was the only

:05:08. > :05:11.child of a local couple, There are reports that

:05:12. > :05:13.President Trump's son-in-law and senior White House adviser

:05:14. > :05:15.Jared Kushner is under Reports say in the US media say that

:05:16. > :05:19.investigators believe Mr Kushner may have significant information

:05:20. > :05:21.relevant to their inquiry into alleged Russian interference

:05:22. > :05:27.in last year's election. Scientists say new observations

:05:28. > :05:29.of the planet Jupiter have They have been studying detailed

:05:30. > :05:35.photographs sent back to earth Researchers say they have been

:05:36. > :05:38.amazed by the storms Dozens of hurricanes,

:05:39. > :05:45.each the size of Earth, An SOS signal made of rocks in

:05:46. > :05:52.a remote part of Western Australia has prompted fears that someone,

:05:53. > :05:55.or more than one person, The distress signal was spotted

:05:56. > :05:58.by a helicopter pilot, leading to a ground search

:05:59. > :06:01.by police, who had to reach the area Authorities have now appealed

:06:02. > :06:07.for public help after failing to find any indication

:06:08. > :06:12.of recent human activity. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:06:13. > :06:25.News - more at 10.30am. In a few minutes we will be speaking

:06:26. > :06:28.to a man who was reunited with his half siblings simply through a DNA

:06:29. > :06:32.sample, it is an incredible story. We will speak to the DNA detective

:06:33. > :06:33.who was involved in that, so do staging.

:06:34. > :06:35.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:06:36. > :06:39.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:06:40. > :06:49.Manchester will use sport as a way of 'showing its strength'

:06:50. > :06:51.after the terrible attack in the city earlier this week.

:06:52. > :06:54.At the weekend the Great Manchester Run will go ahead as planned.

:06:55. > :06:58.As will today's Great City Games - it sees international stars such

:06:59. > :07:00.as Great Britain's Paralympic champion Jonnie Peacock take

:07:01. > :07:03.part in events right in the heart of the city.

:07:04. > :07:05.Despite the heightened security, Peacock believes

:07:06. > :07:16.These events are the ones that we need, we need to show

:07:17. > :07:19.that it doesn't stop us, I think that's what we show

:07:20. > :07:21.great in this country, what we do a great job

:07:22. > :07:27.of is we will wake up the next day, get on with our lives,

:07:28. > :07:30.stand up, go to our jobs, turned up to events and show

:07:31. > :07:32.our support together, and I think it is the absolute

:07:33. > :07:35.opposite response to what everyone wants but it is amazing

:07:36. > :07:42.The first significant sporting event since Monday's attack took place

:07:43. > :07:45.There was increased security at the Academy Stadium,

:07:46. > :07:47.as Manchester City hosted Chelsea in the Women's Superleague

:07:48. > :07:51.A Toni Duggan goal gave City a 1-0 win, a result which moves them

:07:52. > :07:54.into second place in the table, just a point behind

:07:55. > :08:04.Wayne Rooney says he is more or less decided about as Manchester United

:08:05. > :08:08.future but won't say what that is for another two weeks. As for his

:08:09. > :08:14.international career, it looks to be coming to a close. The England

:08:15. > :08:17.record scorer has been left out once again by the head coach, Gareth

:08:18. > :08:21.Southgate. He named his squad to face Scotland in France next month.

:08:22. > :08:25.Rooney has been a bit part player in his club side this season. His

:08:26. > :08:28.former club Everton or the Chinese Super League are possible

:08:29. > :08:35.destinations if he leaves Old Trafford.

:08:36. > :08:39.The former England captain Alan Shearer spoke to our programme

:08:40. > :08:42.today and says he's not sure victory for Arsenal in tomorrow's FA Cup

:08:43. > :08:44.final against Chelsea would appease the club's fans.

:08:45. > :08:46.The club finished fifth in the Premier League season,

:08:47. > :08:50.missing out on the Champions League for the first time in 20 years

:08:51. > :08:58.and Arsene Wenger, their manager, has still not clarified his future.

:08:59. > :09:02.Arsenal Midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain disagrees.

:09:03. > :09:06.We have given ourselves to win a trophy and when you are in football

:09:07. > :09:10.winning trophies is what it is about. It would be a bonus of the

:09:11. > :09:14.season to finish on a more positive note. We wanted to finish higher up

:09:15. > :09:19.the league, there is no doubting that, we cannot hide from that, we

:09:20. > :09:23.need look to that, but it is a big trophy and one that we want to win

:09:24. > :09:27.and definitely it would boost morale going into next season.

:09:28. > :09:30.That match will be on BBC One tomorrow afternoon. That is all the

:09:31. > :09:34.sport for now, back to you. We will speak to you again in a

:09:35. > :09:37.while. If you are heading to Gatwick

:09:38. > :09:40.Airport you will be pleased to hear that a spokesman for the airport has

:09:41. > :09:44.said the problem with the automated baggage system has been fixed and

:09:45. > :09:47.they are working to remedy the disruption caused by the backlog of

:09:48. > :09:51.luggage. He said airlines will be forwarding passengers' luggage to

:09:52. > :09:55.their destination as soon as possible, so good news if you are

:09:56. > :09:56.heading to Gatwick Airport that the automated baggage system has been

:09:57. > :10:05.fixed. Let's get more on those comments

:10:06. > :10:08.made by the Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn this morning that UK foreign

:10:09. > :10:11.policy is not working. Norman Smith, tell us more about

:10:12. > :10:16.what he will say. This is a gamble by Jeremy Corbyn

:10:17. > :10:20.because talking about terrorism and its causes in the wake of an

:10:21. > :10:24.atrocity like Manchester, a lot of people will be uncomfortable about

:10:25. > :10:28.that, there will be people who think it is inappropriate, irresponsible.

:10:29. > :10:32.Mr Corbyn's view is that we have to have this discussion and talk about

:10:33. > :10:38.why these terrorist attacks keep happening. And he kind of pinpoint

:10:39. > :10:42.two factors. At home, he suggests part of the problem is there have

:10:43. > :10:46.been significant cuts to police numbers, we lost something like

:10:47. > :10:50.20,000 police officers over the last five years or so because of

:10:51. > :10:56.austerity, and he says you cannot protect people, his phrase, on the

:10:57. > :10:59.cheap. So part of it, he thinks, is down to simply the amount of

:11:00. > :11:03.resources you can put into protecting people, and he says

:11:04. > :11:05.Labour would recruit another 10,000 police officers, if the security

:11:06. > :11:23.services wanted more cash, they could get more cash. The other

:11:24. > :11:25.side of it is looking abroad, and arguing that these wars that we have

:11:26. > :11:28.had recently in Libya, Iraq, Syria, they are part of the problem, says

:11:29. > :11:31.Mr Corbyn, because they radicalise use abroad and increases the threat

:11:32. > :11:33.we face. Mr Corbyn says it is not just his Bube at claims senior

:11:34. > :11:36.figures in the intelligence community say that and he says we

:11:37. > :11:40.have to be smarter about how we go around tackling these sorts of

:11:41. > :11:44.issues. I guess that is the weaker part of his argument because it is

:11:45. > :11:48.not actually clear what Mr Corbyn would do. We know he wants more

:11:49. > :11:53.money for the police at home but it is not quite clear what he would do

:11:54. > :11:58.about situations like Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya. I guess the

:11:59. > :12:01.honest truth is he just wouldn't get involved at all, but not

:12:02. > :12:05.surprisingly critics have seized on what he has said this morning, Tory

:12:06. > :12:11.ministers saying it is inappropriate to have that sort of discussion now

:12:12. > :12:16.and questioning Mr Corbyn's track record because he has pretty much

:12:17. > :12:21.voted against I think every single piece of anti-terrorism legislation

:12:22. > :12:24.passed in the last decade or so. There are profound risks here for Mr

:12:25. > :12:29.Corbyn in the middle of an election campaign.

:12:30. > :12:33.Norman, thank you, we will catch up with you again later on.

:12:34. > :12:38.Let's also talk about the continuing investigations by police into a

:12:39. > :12:42.possible network surrounding the Manchester suicide bomber, who of

:12:43. > :12:48.course killed 22 people and injured 116 on Monday evening. There have

:12:49. > :12:52.been more searches overnight and our correspondent is outside Greater

:12:53. > :12:56.Manchester Police headquarters. Lots of activity overnight, bring us the

:12:57. > :12:59.latest you are hearing on the investigation.

:13:00. > :13:03.Well, this is of course a very fast-moving investigation, allow me

:13:04. > :13:08.to bring you up to date with what has happened overnight and this

:13:09. > :13:12.morning. One man was arrested in Manchester overnight, there has been

:13:13. > :13:16.a search at a property in St Helens in Merseyside, and another surge

:13:17. > :13:20.ongoing in Moss Side in Manchester as well, a different place from

:13:21. > :13:25.where that man was arrested overnight, which brings the total

:13:26. > :13:28.number of arrests so far in this investigation to ten, two people

:13:29. > :13:32.have been released, one of them a 16-year-old boy, another 34-year-old

:13:33. > :13:48.woman, so that leaves eight men in custody,

:13:49. > :13:51.all aged between 18 and 38. Suspected of acts of terrorism, but

:13:52. > :13:53.no one has been charged, and we must stress no one has been charged.

:13:54. > :13:56.There have been a series of raids across the area in the last couple

:13:57. > :13:58.of days, one of those yesterday evening in Wigan when armed police

:13:59. > :14:01.and the bomb disposal unit closed off a street in Wigan and people

:14:02. > :14:04.were evacuated from their homes and suspicious items may have been

:14:05. > :14:09.recovered there. The threat level does remain at critical so while

:14:10. > :14:12.progress is being made in this investigation, it is clear that

:14:13. > :14:16.people who may have been associated with Salman Abedi are still very

:14:17. > :14:20.much being sought after by police here in greater Manchester.

:14:21. > :14:26.I understand Greater Manchester Police have been talking about leaks

:14:27. > :14:30.of information from the US? That is right, you will remember

:14:31. > :14:34.yesterday we understood police here to be furious about the publication

:14:35. > :14:39.of those photographs showing fragments of what we suspect is the

:14:40. > :14:44.bomb and the rucksack, published in the New York Times, and of course

:14:45. > :14:47.there had been the early lead of the name of Salman Abedi far earlier

:14:48. > :14:53.than Greater Manchester Police would have wanted that to have happened.

:14:54. > :14:56.That irritation, that frustration, led to Greater Manchester Police

:14:57. > :15:00.stopping sharing directed their information with the Americans. That

:15:01. > :15:04.has now resumed, there has been an issue runs from Washington that

:15:05. > :15:09.there will be no more breaches of that trust, said that now has

:15:10. > :15:12.resumed. And of course this is going to be a big weekend for police here

:15:13. > :15:18.in Manchester, there are some big events, it is a bank holiday, we

:15:19. > :15:22.have the great Manchester city games happening, we have the Manchester

:15:23. > :15:25.10k, a pop concert at Old Trafford tomorrow night, many events

:15:26. > :15:29.happening and police making sure they go ahead as normal. I'm sure

:15:30. > :15:34.you can expect there to be tight security but this is a sign that the

:15:35. > :15:46.people here in Manchester and the police in Manchester wanting to

:15:47. > :15:48.support people, to give them a chance to get on with things as

:15:49. > :15:49.normally as possible while the threat level still remains at

:15:50. > :16:00.critical. Later we will be asking if Jeremy

:16:01. > :16:04.Corbyn is right to link terrorist attacks with military action of the

:16:05. > :16:07.UK. More than 60 years ago,

:16:08. > :16:09.a young baby with big, blue eyes was found wrapped

:16:10. > :16:12.in blankets on a cinema Nobody knew where he came

:16:13. > :16:16.from or who had left him there. That baby, Robert Weston,

:16:17. > :16:18.went on to be adopted and have a family of his own,

:16:19. > :16:21.but with no clues to his identity he spent decades

:16:22. > :16:23.searching for answers. Now, thanks to the help

:16:24. > :16:25.of Julia Bell, a DNA detective, Robert has uncovered his family

:16:26. > :16:28.and has been united with his half-brother Tommy

:16:29. > :16:32.and half-sister Pat. He's joining us with Julia

:16:33. > :16:42.and Tommy for the first This is such an incredible story.

:16:43. > :16:47.Let's go right back to the beginning, Robert, if we can. How

:16:48. > :16:51.did you manage to get Julia's help and track down your siblings? OK, it

:16:52. > :17:02.was basically my eldest daughter. We realised we had reached the end

:17:03. > :17:06.in terms of where we could go in terms of media searches and she came

:17:07. > :17:10.up with the idea of a Facebook page and she popped back up and it

:17:11. > :17:15.started to attract attention and people started to look at it. Julia

:17:16. > :17:18.was one of those people and got in touch with my eldest daughter and

:17:19. > :17:25.they had a conversation about what could be done. So, what information

:17:26. > :17:30.did you have about what had happened to you as a baby? What was your

:17:31. > :17:37.starting point? You are left in a cinema? Yes, absolutely. Life for me

:17:38. > :17:40.started normally until I was about three weeks of age. My mother left

:17:41. > :17:48.me in the toilets in the Odeon cinema in Birmingham. There was a

:17:49. > :17:52.lot of searching going on for the woman they were looking for, but

:17:53. > :17:58.they did not find anyone. In the meantime, I had been taken to

:17:59. > :18:00.hospital, checked over, found to be healthy, well nourished and cared

:18:01. > :18:06.for and wrapped up in some good clothing. I was then taken to a

:18:07. > :18:10.children's home while they were searching for my mother. They did

:18:11. > :18:18.not find her so they decided to give me a name and ironically they called

:18:19. > :18:21.me Robert after the Bobby who took me in, the policeman who took me

:18:22. > :18:27.into the hospital, and the duty doctor. His surname was Bruce and

:18:28. > :18:32.they gave me the name of Robert Bruce. Considering my family are

:18:33. > :18:37.Scottish that is quite amazing. I spent the next seven years in the

:18:38. > :18:41.children's home. It was not particularly nice, not a good place,

:18:42. > :18:47.then I was adopted by an amazing couple at the age of seven and I

:18:48. > :18:54.stayed with them until I was 15. So I had a first home at the age of

:18:55. > :18:58.seven. You felt there was something missing, that you needed to connect

:18:59. > :19:03.with your blood family? Yes, absolutely. I knew from an early age

:19:04. > :19:07.that things were different. I did not have a mother or a father. That

:19:08. > :19:14.is a difficult thing to take on board. There is a grey veil either

:19:15. > :19:19.side of you. Most people can connect, they have a link to reality

:19:20. > :19:23.in a sense, their culture, who they are and where they come from and

:19:24. > :19:27.they look to their parents and grandparents. I had nothing there at

:19:28. > :19:35.all. History started with me and that was a difficult thing to deal

:19:36. > :19:40.with. How do you deal with that? It took a long time, really, to come to

:19:41. > :19:46.terms with it. That is when Julia stepped in to help you. Did you get

:19:47. > :19:52.in touch through the Facebook page? Yes, initially, and I explained how

:19:53. > :19:57.he might begin to progress. I am fascinated by the concept of a DNA

:19:58. > :20:03.detective and I want to bring Tommy in in a moment, but I want to know

:20:04. > :20:11.how you tracked down Tommy. It is a question of connecting to the three

:20:12. > :20:18.big databases. At ancestry DNA you have about 4 million people on

:20:19. > :20:23.there. They take privacy seriously and you can get an estimate to

:20:24. > :20:27.compare you to the population. I began to get an idea that Robert was

:20:28. > :20:32.from Scotland, Ireland, the initial clues. Then I looked at the matching

:20:33. > :20:38.database which compares you to other people, cousins, who are on there.

:20:39. > :20:44.There was a close match but I could see nothing visible about them, but

:20:45. > :20:48.I could see they connected with others and eventually doing many

:20:49. > :20:54.family trees and looking for common ancestor pairs and working the data

:20:55. > :20:59.forward, DNA is a tool and you use logic, intuition and science to

:21:00. > :21:03.gradually get to the family, the charmer 's family, and they

:21:04. > :21:06.volunteered to test to help us get closer to the first cousin and

:21:07. > :21:11.eventually get closer to a half sibling. Tommy, when were you

:21:12. > :21:18.alerted to the fact that this was going on? This is about February. A

:21:19. > :21:26.second cousin of mine got in touch and said that she had done DNA tests

:21:27. > :21:32.herself, she was looking into her own background. They knew that this

:21:33. > :21:39.was a close match, but not close enough, so her mother took a DNA

:21:40. > :21:44.test, which was my cousin, Deborah charmers, and they knew then it was

:21:45. > :21:49.an uncle. Unfortunately the uncles had all passed away and she asked if

:21:50. > :21:54.I would be prepared to take a DNA test. I said no problem and I took

:21:55. > :21:59.the DNA test and it was a match, he was a half brother. Did you have any

:22:00. > :22:15.idea at all that you had a half brother? Yes, we sort of suspected

:22:16. > :22:20.it because when my father died, when Robert's father died, in 1996, there

:22:21. > :22:27.was a letter found. I have never seen this letter but some of the

:22:28. > :22:33.family have. It mentioned this was a letter from Robert's mother to my

:22:34. > :22:49.father, saying that she could not afford to look after both children.

:22:50. > :22:55.There was a name mentioned in the letter of Lawrie or Lowry, we are

:22:56. > :23:01.not sure which. It may be Robert's real name or it could be an older

:23:02. > :23:12.brother's name. We are continuing to hug for that person. Somebody

:23:13. > :23:22.appeared we think about 1977, 1978 looking for my father here. But it

:23:23. > :23:26.was an older brother of mine who told me that. Unfortunately he died

:23:27. > :23:31.two years ago so I cannot go any further with that because he was the

:23:32. > :23:35.only one who knew that. Tommy, I know you cannot see Robert right

:23:36. > :23:43.now, but I am watching his reaction and at times the smiling. You are

:23:44. > :23:49.still very emotional about this. Yes, absolutely. It is astonishing

:23:50. > :23:57.really. I talked to Tommy and Pat and some of the others most days. I

:23:58. > :24:02.talked to a lot of the family now in Scotland most days really, so it is

:24:03. > :24:06.a big difference. One minute there is nothing there and the next minute

:24:07. > :24:14.all these people are there and I get on really well with all of them.

:24:15. > :24:18.Tommy and I are very similar, we have a lot of similarities, we are

:24:19. > :24:26.still discovering them. Yes, it is fascinating. He is lovely. I am

:24:27. > :24:30.interested from both of your perspectives. Tommy, what was that

:24:31. > :24:38.first conversation on the phone or the first meeting with Robert light?

:24:39. > :24:44.Can you share that with us? As I say, it was not really a surprise.

:24:45. > :24:50.We sort of knew there was something there but nobody ever took that

:24:51. > :24:54.forward. I remember seeing this story in the paper years ago but

:24:55. > :25:03.never put two and two together again. But it's sort of all makes

:25:04. > :25:13.sense now. The first conversation was... I cannot explain it. It

:25:14. > :25:19.was... It took a long time for it to sink in, I think. I think it still

:25:20. > :25:28.does, it still has not sunk in properly yet that we now have

:25:29. > :25:32.another brother. It is just a strange feeling that brings up a lot

:25:33. > :25:39.of emotions, not only with me, but the rest of the family as well. But

:25:40. > :25:47.I think overall everybody is delighted with this. Robert, what

:25:48. > :25:52.was that first meeting like for you? It was kind of a scary thing

:25:53. > :25:57.initially because I had been given this phone number and I sent him a

:25:58. > :26:03.text and things like that and then I was thinking, I am going to phone my

:26:04. > :26:07.brother. Being able to say that for the first time in my life, I am

:26:08. > :26:14.actually going to phone my brother, and at this time I did not know. I

:26:15. > :26:19.thought it was just him. I was not aware of there being other people.

:26:20. > :26:27.When I spoke to him the first time I was astonished, you know. It was

:26:28. > :26:31.amazing, really. I kept thinking to myself, I am talking to my brother.

:26:32. > :26:37.It sounds a bit silly, but it kept rolling through my head, it was

:26:38. > :26:42.pretty amazing. Then Tommy in the conversation said, by the way it is

:26:43. > :26:50.not just me. You have got five brothers and a sister. It is so much

:26:51. > :26:57.for both of you to take in. Julia, this must be the best job in the

:26:58. > :26:59.world. You are sitting here smiling. Definitely, I am very privileged to

:27:00. > :27:06.work with Robert and with other people who do not know who their

:27:07. > :27:09.parents are. It is a real privilege. Robert has been amazing, we have met

:27:10. > :27:16.for the first time now and now I am looking forward towards finding his

:27:17. > :27:25.mother. We know Brian is a possibility, Aston, Hendry and

:27:26. > :27:32.Williams. And Oswestry, have I got that correct? That is the sort of

:27:33. > :27:38.area. We have some idea as to who his mother might be. I cannot reveal

:27:39. > :27:44.that for good reasons, but she will be deceased if it is her. That might

:27:45. > :27:50.mean it is slightly less sensitive and somebody who I know might

:27:51. > :27:56.hopefully get in touch. I am hopeful we can use the power within the

:27:57. > :28:01.matching databases to do this. But if anyone can help us along our way,

:28:02. > :28:06.that would be fantastic. Robert, how important is that for you? I know

:28:07. > :28:10.your father passed away so you have not been able to meet him. How

:28:11. > :28:15.important would it be for the jigsaw puzzle to know who your mother was

:28:16. > :28:20.even if she has passed away? For me that was the focus of my search,

:28:21. > :28:26.really. I did not think I would have much chance of finding out who my

:28:27. > :28:30.dad was. I thought I would find my mother first and then my dad. So

:28:31. > :28:36.finding my father is amazing, but finding my mother is still a big

:28:37. > :28:40.part of what I want to do. I think she had reasons for what she did,

:28:41. > :28:46.but I feel that because of the way in which I was left I do not

:28:47. > :28:53.think... I think really she was in a desperate space. I think if she had

:28:54. > :28:58.had another choice, she would not have done that. I am very keen to

:28:59. > :29:03.see where she is and find out who she is because that also helps me

:29:04. > :29:09.identify who I am from that side of the family as well. It gives me a

:29:10. > :29:14.history and it is important I also pass on to my children as much

:29:15. > :29:20.history, family history, on both sides as I can. Is it about needing

:29:21. > :29:29.to know why she left you? Yes, partly. I would understand any

:29:30. > :29:34.reason because over the years I have worked through all the emotions and

:29:35. > :29:41.things like that that go along with it. I feel a lot of love for her and

:29:42. > :29:47.I feel a connection. There is absolutely nothing to forgive. It is

:29:48. > :29:54.possible I will never meet her, but if I ever could have done, I would

:29:55. > :29:59.give her a hug. It has been so lovely to speak to all of you. It is

:30:00. > :30:01.an incredible story, and I hope you make some progress. It has been

:30:02. > :30:13.lovely to speak to you. Still to come Cole on terror is not

:30:14. > :30:20.working. That is from Jeremy Corbyn if Labour wins the election. Is it

:30:21. > :30:24.right to link military action overseas to terrorists here in the

:30:25. > :30:28.UK? The pranksters who were tampering with the walkers crisps

:30:29. > :30:33.advertising campaign, we will talk about that.

:30:34. > :30:37.It has gone viral, it has been pulled by Walkers crisps, so we will

:30:38. > :30:39.talk about that later on. With the news, here's Annita

:30:40. > :30:41.in the BBC Newsroom. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:30:42. > :30:44.will give a major speech shortly, in which he's expected to link

:30:45. > :30:49.British military action abroad He's making the comments as election

:30:50. > :30:55.campaigning resumes after the terror attack in Manchester,

:30:56. > :31:04.in which 22 people were killed. The comments have already come

:31:05. > :31:06.in for criticism on both sides of the political divide,

:31:07. > :31:08.with the Tories calling them Greater Manchester police has said

:31:09. > :31:12.eight men arrested in connection with the Manchester bomb attack

:31:13. > :31:15.are all suspected of terror offences Overnight there was another arrest

:31:16. > :31:21.and more police searches, including at an address

:31:22. > :31:23.in the St Helens area of Merseyside, as police

:31:24. > :31:25.continue their investigations A 16-year-old boy has been

:31:26. > :31:32.released without charge. And armed police have begun

:31:33. > :31:34.patrolling national rail services It's the first time that firearms

:31:35. > :31:40.officers have been deployed on Britain's railways,

:31:41. > :31:43.although there have been patrols on the London

:31:44. > :31:45.Underground since December. The terror threat remains

:31:46. > :31:47.at critical, meaning security services believe another attack

:31:48. > :31:52.could be imminent. Theresa May is to urge the leaders

:31:53. > :31:55.of the world's most developed nations to do more to tackle

:31:56. > :31:58.extremism online. She'll make the call at the G7

:31:59. > :32:01.summit of leading industrial nations in Sicily, attended

:32:02. > :32:09.by President Donald Trump. The leaders, also including

:32:10. > :32:13.Emmanuel Macron of France and Germany's Chancellor Merkel,

:32:14. > :32:15.will discuss a range of issues including global security,

:32:16. > :32:22.trade and climate change. Gatwick Airport says the major

:32:23. > :32:26.problems it suffered with baggage this morning are now over and the

:32:27. > :32:31.issue is resolved. Travellers tweeted pictures of the pile-up and

:32:32. > :32:33.one described it as chaotic. Some flights have already departed

:32:34. > :32:39.without some of their passengers' bag.

:32:40. > :32:42.The media personality Katie Hopkins has been axed from her job

:32:43. > :32:47.presenting a talk show on the radio station LBC, it follows a tweet in

:32:48. > :32:56.which she said after Monday's attack that a final solution was needed to

:32:57. > :33:00.terror. She was reported to police and eight Sack Hopkins Now campaign

:33:01. > :33:01.followed. A spokesman said both sides agreed she would be effective

:33:02. > :33:06.immediately. An SOS signal made of rocks in

:33:07. > :33:09.a remote part of Western Australia has prompted fears that someone,

:33:10. > :33:11.or more than one person, The distress signal was spotted

:33:12. > :33:14.by a helicopter pilot, leading to a ground search

:33:15. > :33:17.by police, who had to reach the area Authorities have now appealed

:33:18. > :33:21.for public help after failing to find any indication

:33:22. > :33:23.of recent human activity. That's a summary of the latest

:33:24. > :33:25.news, join me for BBC Paralympic sprint champion

:33:26. > :33:40.Jonny Peacock says sport can help show people 'that nothing

:33:41. > :33:42.will stop us'. The Great City Games in Manchester

:33:43. > :33:45.will go ahead in Manchester today among heightened security

:33:46. > :33:46.in the city. As for the Great Manchester Run on

:33:47. > :33:50.Sunday. Manchester City's women beat

:33:51. > :33:59.Chelsea 1-0 in the first significant sporting event

:34:00. > :34:01.to take place in Manchester Hull City say they are

:34:02. > :34:04."disappointed" at Marco's Silva's Silva, who has been linked

:34:05. > :34:08.with a host of jobs in England and Europe, has left the club

:34:09. > :34:10.following their relegation Ben Ainslie's Land Rover BAR

:34:11. > :34:14.team are trying to qualify These are the scenic pictures

:34:15. > :34:19.of Bermuda earlier this week, but qualifying has been delayed

:34:20. > :34:22.by 24 hours due to high winds I will be back with more sport in

:34:23. > :34:27.newsroom live at 11am. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:34:28. > :34:30.is resuming his party's election campaign with a speech linking

:34:31. > :34:32.British military action overseas, In a moment we will speak

:34:33. > :34:54.to Dr Alan Mendoza from the Henry Jackson Society -

:34:55. > :34:56.a think tank specialising And from Lancaster by

:34:57. > :34:59.Dr Simon Mabon, who researches the International Relations

:35:00. > :35:04.of the Middle East But first of all our security

:35:05. > :35:06.correspondent Frank Gardner is here, what do we know about the sheer

:35:07. > :35:09.scale of investigations that are ongoing right now not just because

:35:10. > :35:13.of the Manchester attack but across the country?

:35:14. > :35:18.I think it will be quite a shock to learn that what MI5 released

:35:19. > :35:21.yesterday, they are currently working on 500 investigations, they

:35:22. > :35:25.have about 3000 people on their watchlist, those are the people they

:35:26. > :35:30.know about, so-called persons of interest, of whom Salman Abedi, the

:35:31. > :35:33.bomber, was a former person of interest, and I think that will

:35:34. > :35:37.spark some serious questions being asked at Whitehall as to why they

:35:38. > :35:43.were not on his tail a bit more closely. But 500 investigations

:35:44. > :35:47.currently with the Manchester investigation, ten people arrested,

:35:48. > :35:51.two have been released, eight in custody, plus remember that the

:35:52. > :35:55.bombers' brother and father have both been detained in Libya by what

:35:56. > :36:02.is called a deterrent force, basically in militia that is loyal

:36:03. > :36:06.to the UN recognised Government. Jeremy Corbyn made these comments

:36:07. > :36:09.about the war on terrorism not working, and some people may be

:36:10. > :36:12.scratching their heads thinking, where are we on the war on

:36:13. > :36:18.terrorism? Update us on what the UK's role is right now.

:36:19. > :36:23.OK, personally I have never liked that expression, it is like a war on

:36:24. > :36:27.air, you cannot have a war on terrorism, it is a meaningless

:36:28. > :36:30.expression. But what it refers to is the combined international but

:36:31. > :36:35.US-led reaction to terrorist attacks going right back to 2001. It started

:36:36. > :36:40.with Afghanistan, demanding the Taliban hand over Al-Qaeda and some

:36:41. > :36:47.big garden, the leaders. They refused, so launched what was called

:36:48. > :36:50.Operation Interior Freedom to kick out the Taliban and destroy

:36:51. > :36:57.Al-Qaeda. It only half walked, they pushed them across the border and it

:36:58. > :37:00.did not finish, it morphed into the global war on terror, then the

:37:01. > :37:06.global struggle against violent extremism. You get the idea.

:37:07. > :37:11.Inevitably some actions have been counter-productive. Ted Nigeria, for

:37:12. > :37:16.example, the Government there is pursuing what it sees as terrorists

:37:17. > :37:21.with such relentless vigour that it is also killing civilians in some

:37:22. > :37:25.cases, whole villages have been traumatised, and that helps recruit

:37:26. > :37:29.people for Boko Haram. So there are elements of the global war against

:37:30. > :37:35.terrorism which backfired. Jeremy Corbyn's point is that there is a

:37:36. > :37:39.link with Britain's intervention overseas and what happens here. It

:37:40. > :37:43.is a risky line to go down if terrorists can use that but then

:37:44. > :37:47.again there is no denying that there is, it is one of the planks they

:37:48. > :37:52.used to justify what they are doing, one of many. Remember the people

:37:53. > :37:55.carrying out these attacks are generally people with troubled

:37:56. > :38:00.pasts, often in trouble with the law, Pettigrew minerals and so on.

:38:01. > :38:02.When George W Bush launched the war on terror, there was a feeling it

:38:03. > :38:25.was a global effort.

:38:26. > :38:27.Do you get the feeling now it is not so much, that individual countries

:38:28. > :38:29.are pursuing their own approaches? There is a coalition against Isis

:38:30. > :38:32.that is very active in Syria and Iraq, primarily as strikes, US-led

:38:33. > :38:33.but there are lots of other countries as well, mostly European

:38:34. > :38:36.countries and yesterday Nato agreed to join that coalition. It won't

:38:37. > :38:39.make a huge difference but will lend some eyes to the intelligence,

:38:40. > :38:41.scanning from the air, sea and grad targets are, but that is one of the

:38:42. > :38:43.reasons why Isis is trying to retaliate in Europe because their

:38:44. > :38:45.caliphate is shrinking. They had brutalised the population under

:38:46. > :38:50.their control and these air strikes are not going in willy-nilly, let's

:38:51. > :38:54.just bomb some villagers, they are going in targeted, trying to rid the

:38:55. > :38:58.Middle East of the organisation that has brutalised them. The people in

:38:59. > :39:02.the Middle East don't want Isis, let's be clear about this, Isis does

:39:03. > :39:06.not represent the Middle East, it is an abomination for people out there,

:39:07. > :39:13.they call them outsiders from Islam. I will be keen for you to chip in on

:39:14. > :39:16.this conversation as well. I want to bring in Dr Mendoza, what do you

:39:17. > :39:19.make of the comments today from Jeremy Corbyn saying the war on

:39:20. > :39:25.terror is not working? I don't want to focus on Jeremy Corbyn himself,

:39:26. > :39:31.people can make up their own minds about that. The underlying argument

:39:32. > :39:35.gives us a perspective on history in recent times. What we are failing to

:39:36. > :39:39.do in this debate is look at what the terrorists themselves say to us,

:39:40. > :39:44.what Isis, Al-Qaeda said for many years, which is it is actually about

:39:45. > :39:47.us, that our beliefs versus their beliefs. They have clear believes in

:39:48. > :39:52.a radical Islamist system, they wish for those believes to be universal,

:39:53. > :39:55.they think that our way of life is decadent, they wish to punish us, to

:39:56. > :40:15.subvert what we do in their way instead and that is why they are

:40:16. > :40:17.attacking us, they are pretty open about this. Propaganda magazines

:40:18. > :40:20.come out all the time from Isis that explain the list of reasons and it

:40:21. > :40:23.is true that foreign policy is at the bottom but they are open about

:40:24. > :40:25.it, it is not the main issue. Even if foreign policy was not there,

:40:26. > :40:28.they said they would still attack because we are not Muslim, but their

:40:29. > :40:30.form of Muslim, and Frank is right to suggest that Isis does not

:40:31. > :40:33.represent the Middle East and it does not represent any number of

:40:34. > :40:36.Muslims in this, it is a small section of the Muslim population,

:40:37. > :40:38.but it is, crucially, linked to a religious ideology. I want to bring

:40:39. > :40:42.gait do, do you agree that what we are hearing, foreign policy aside,

:40:43. > :40:51.we will always be a target in the UK for people who want to carry out

:40:52. > :40:56.terror attacks? I agree but I want to add some nuance, if we look at

:40:57. > :40:59.the 7/7 attacks, it was clear the Iraq war was put forward as one of

:41:00. > :41:04.the main reasons the attacks were carried out, and if we go right back

:41:05. > :41:13.to the heart of this move towards radical Islamist, the writings of

:41:14. > :41:17.some of the figures, there is a clear legacy of colonialism, clear

:41:18. > :41:21.legacy of external involvement, external interference in the

:41:22. > :41:28.domestic affairs of Middle Eastern states. That is a very clear root of

:41:29. > :41:32.this problem. This radical Islamist ideology does not exist purely in a

:41:33. > :41:36.vacuum, there is a much larger political, social, economic context

:41:37. > :41:42.that helps the ideology to find traction amongst people that, as

:41:43. > :41:46.Frank correctly asserts, our people struggling to fit within society,

:41:47. > :41:50.petty criminals, people that have struggled to assimilate within

:41:51. > :41:55.communities. But when foreign policies have come in and have such

:41:56. > :42:00.a devastating effect on society, particularly in Syria, in Iraq, in

:42:01. > :42:06.Afghanistan, you can see that there is a legacy of involvement, and you

:42:07. > :42:11.can see the impact it is having on people. The problem with that

:42:12. > :42:15.argument is if you look again at what the terrorists said, over time

:42:16. > :42:21.their argument changes on the foreign policy question. Go back and

:42:22. > :42:24.read a book called The Islamist, the author explains he was radicalised

:42:25. > :42:29.by the Bosnian war, propaganda coming out saying, we did not

:42:30. > :42:32.intervene therefore we did not care about Muslims, our human rights

:42:33. > :42:40.beliefs are a charade, and that encourage people like Moazzam Begg

:42:41. > :42:45.to go out and, or at least to go down a radical path. You have

:42:46. > :42:50.nonintervention in the 1990s, you have intervention in the 2000s,

:42:51. > :42:55.Iraq, Afghanistan, then of Syria whether propaganda is, look at how

:42:56. > :42:58.the West stands by and let Assad murder hundreds of hundreds of

:42:59. > :43:03.thousands of Muslims and does nothing. Again, come and join us, we

:43:04. > :43:07.are the winners here, they are the losers, and that is what it does, so

:43:08. > :43:12.the argument changes. So it is an impossible line to Frank?

:43:13. > :43:17.In the eyes of hard-core jihadists, the West is dammed whatever it does,

:43:18. > :43:24.so I would agree with Alan on that one. If you look at Libya, it is a

:43:25. > :43:27.mess today, it is a low hanging fruit to say this is all the fault

:43:28. > :43:32.of the West because they intervened and then abandoned the country. They

:43:33. > :43:35.didn't want to have an army of occupation. If Nato had gone into

:43:36. > :43:40.Libya after the overthrow of Colonel Gaddafi, they would have become

:43:41. > :43:44.targets and a focus for a popular, let's get the Western Crusaders out

:43:45. > :43:52.of Libya, amongst jihadis. So Libya I think has disappointed a lot of

:43:53. > :43:56.people, it should be a success story, it has massive hydrocarbon

:43:57. > :43:59.reserves, small population, on the Mediterranean shores, close to

:44:00. > :44:03.Europe, it should be a success and yet Colonel Gaddafi and his vile

:44:04. > :44:08.regime held the country in such a vice like grip that he made sure

:44:09. > :44:11.that whatever happened after him would be disaster and sure enough

:44:12. > :44:15.the country has fragmented into all of these different items, which is

:44:16. > :44:22.why it is such an easy breeding ground for extremists.

:44:23. > :44:27.Doctor Mendoza, I have been speaking to colleagues at BBC Arabic who said

:44:28. > :44:32.when they have been in Manchester speaking to Libyans living in

:44:33. > :44:36.Manchester, many of them have said, off camera or off microphone,

:44:37. > :44:40.interestingly, it is the foreign policy, actually, that is what is

:44:41. > :44:43.making us angry, and although I feel integrated in Manchester and I feel

:44:44. > :44:48.like this is my home, I am very angry about what is happening in

:44:49. > :44:52.Libya, and they can understand, not necessarily agree with, but

:44:53. > :44:54.understand why people would be radicalised as a result. Foreign

:44:55. > :45:01.policy in general does make people angry. I debuted the example earlier

:45:02. > :45:06.of nonintervention as well, in the 1990s, people like Moazzam Begg, not

:45:07. > :45:09.jihadists, people who had radical views because of nonintervention,

:45:10. > :45:14.they were angry about it, angry that people were dying and we were doing

:45:15. > :45:19.nothing about it, other people were angry and think we were somehow

:45:20. > :45:22.responsible for it. The Libyan case is fascinating because if you look

:45:23. > :45:26.at the history of the bomber and his family, why did they flee Libya in

:45:27. > :45:30.the first place? It was because the Gaddafi regime was targeting them,

:45:31. > :45:34.they were political refugees. Why did they go back to Libya? It was

:45:35. > :45:38.because the international community, and I stress that word, the

:45:39. > :45:42.international community had come together to stop Gaddafi from

:45:43. > :45:45.murdering more civilians... I am going to have to jump in, only

:45:46. > :45:49.because I know that we are getting like pictures coming from the G7

:45:50. > :45:53.right now. Thank you so much for joining us on the programme.

:45:54. > :45:56.The Prime Minister Theresa May meeting there with other

:45:57. > :46:04.international leaders in an incredibly beautiful part of Sicily,

:46:05. > :46:24.Taormina, and I think James Reynolds is there to speak with us as well.

:46:25. > :46:34.Angela Merkel is coming and shaking hands, it is her 12 summit, it is

:46:35. > :46:39.Theresa May's first G-7 summit and Donald Trump was my first as well.

:46:40. > :46:44.Theresa May is only staying for this day, she is not staying for the

:46:45. > :46:49.second day. She says she wants to get back to Britain because of the

:46:50. > :46:56.bombing. She has a point for being here, she wants to have a

:46:57. > :47:01.conversation about stopping threats, but she will not end that

:47:02. > :47:04.conversation, there will be a lot of questions about regulation of the

:47:05. > :47:09.Internet and whether that threatens civil liberties. Angela Merkel has

:47:10. > :47:14.just come out. Interesting you say Theresa May is only staying for one

:47:15. > :47:20.day. She wants to get home. Is that being frowned upon by people at the

:47:21. > :47:24.G-7 or is there an understanding? No, world leaders do this whenever

:47:25. > :47:29.there is a crisis they face at home. Other leaders do this routinely.

:47:30. > :47:34.They will go for a short amount of time to a summit, so it is pretty

:47:35. > :47:38.standard political behaviour and something the other leaders appear

:47:39. > :47:41.to understand. It gives her a short time in which to have a debate and

:47:42. > :47:47.engage the other leaders and she will want to use the several hours

:47:48. > :47:51.she is here quite wisely. Some of that time she will want to spend

:47:52. > :47:54.talking to Donald Trump to see if she can repair the relationship

:47:55. > :47:59.between the countries following the intelligence leak. It is Donald

:48:00. > :48:05.Trump was at first G-7 summit. Any idea how he will be welcomed by the

:48:06. > :48:10.other leaders? We well know in a few minutes because he will be having a

:48:11. > :48:17.handshake. Now we are almost all upset by the handshake wars, whether

:48:18. > :48:19.or not he will seek a tug with the French president like yesterday,

:48:20. > :48:23.whether he will jostle his way to the front like he did with the

:48:24. > :48:28.Montenegro leader. This almost sounds like a joke, but we have to

:48:29. > :48:32.look closely at how they behave. How they get on with one another is an

:48:33. > :48:39.indicator of how they deal with each other. He was pretty brutal when he

:48:40. > :48:48.spoke at Nato yesterday, he was rising and eyebrow, about how it is

:48:49. > :48:52.very expensive. Is it likely he will be critical? Possibly, that is the

:48:53. > :48:58.way he has wanted to communicate on this trip. His criticism of the Nato

:48:59. > :49:02.leaders yesterday will have been received well back home by those who

:49:03. > :49:07.voted for him in the election who see a lot of US spending abroad and

:49:08. > :49:12.wonder what it is about. He did have an audience for that. But the

:49:13. > :49:16.leaders who are meeting him will want to try to work out what does he

:49:17. > :49:21.mean? And what is just bluster. Let's take climate change. During

:49:22. > :49:25.the campaign he said it was a hoax. Now they are wondering if he will

:49:26. > :49:30.pull out from the Paris climate agreement. They were asking do you

:49:31. > :49:36.believe in climate change or not? This is a chance for them to work

:49:37. > :49:40.out where he stands. Emmanuel Macron, the new French president,

:49:41. > :49:46.has just come out. He met with Donald Trump yesterday. They did and

:49:47. > :49:50.they have a handshake which was described as a tug of war. Then they

:49:51. > :49:54.had another handshake at a photocall a bit later on and everyone is

:49:55. > :49:59.trying to measure each other up and get the size of each other. Emmanuel

:50:00. > :50:04.Macron during his election campaign showed himself to be a pretty tough

:50:05. > :50:10.character. I do not believe he will give way on a lot of battles abroad

:50:11. > :50:14.either. He will see eye to eye with Angela Merkel. There is a strange

:50:15. > :50:19.relationship with Britain at the moment given Britain is moving into

:50:20. > :50:24.its Brexit stage. But some countries in Europe will want to stand

:50:25. > :50:31.together and say to Donald Trump, we need to stand to gather dashed

:50:32. > :50:36.together on climate change. I do not know if you can see the see behind

:50:37. > :50:41.me. This is where migrants cross. Italy want to get more agreement

:50:42. > :50:46.about what happens to those people once they get on Italian soil.

:50:47. > :50:51.Others might say they want to stop people making the journey in the

:50:52. > :50:55.first place. Theresa May is only staying for one day. Yesterday I

:50:56. > :50:59.understand there was a chat between Donald Trump and Theresa May about

:51:00. > :51:05.this leaking of information about the Manchester attack. It was not a

:51:06. > :51:12.long conversation, it was a photo opportunity. Will they have a better

:51:13. > :51:17.chance today? I am sure they will. They are all meeting well out of our

:51:18. > :51:23.sight on the hilltop. We do not know the exact schedule of the leaders,

:51:24. > :51:27.perhaps that is flexible. But there are only seven members so I do not

:51:28. > :51:30.think it will take much effort for Theresa May and Donald Trump to

:51:31. > :51:35.stand aside and talk about intelligence. Donald Trump said he

:51:36. > :51:40.was as appalled as the British because of the leaking and he wanted

:51:41. > :51:44.an investigation into it as well. That seems to have resolved some of

:51:45. > :51:50.that very public tension between the two sides, but Theresa May will want

:51:51. > :51:53.to talk about that today. You say they are only seven leaders, I

:51:54. > :51:59.cannot believe it has taken this long to shake hands. It is quite a

:52:00. > :52:03.walk up the hill. They have to walk along the ancient areas and there is

:52:04. > :52:06.an amphitheatre where they are watching a concert tonight. Some of

:52:07. > :52:12.the leaders may enjoy that more than the others. We had the Italian Prime

:52:13. > :52:18.Minister, the host, Justin Trudeau from Canada, Shinzo Abe Abbey, from

:52:19. > :52:23.Japan, I think Donald Trump is the only one who has not come out. I

:52:24. > :52:29.think he is the last one. I am not sure of the protocol. This is his

:52:30. > :52:33.first summit, bear that in mind. I am sure we will get some reading

:52:34. > :52:39.into what the first handshake is like. Lots of comments coming in.

:52:40. > :52:46.This is on what Jeremy Corbyn has said about the war on terror not

:52:47. > :52:50.working and how activity with our foreign policy affects things in the

:52:51. > :52:54.UK. Robert says, if he believes it, how naive of Jeremy Corbyn to stay

:52:55. > :53:00.one of the main reasons behind Monday's terror attack is Britain's

:53:01. > :53:03.involved in wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan. The Manchester

:53:04. > :53:08.bomber may have used this as an excuse, but the main aim of radical

:53:09. > :53:11.Muslim extremists is to disrupt a way of living that does not adhere

:53:12. > :53:17.to their strict religious views of society. Another tweak, we can no

:53:18. > :53:22.longer sweep the war on terror under the carpet. The Middle East has been

:53:23. > :53:26.bombed for years and it has made things worse.

:53:27. > :53:33.You may have thought big brands would have learned their lessons by

:53:34. > :53:39.now. Walkers crisps marketing managers have found out the hard

:53:40. > :53:43.way. Earlier in the week they launched this Champions League final

:53:44. > :53:50.campaign. Excited about the Uefa league Champions League final? Snap

:53:51. > :53:58.and share your selfie for a chance to win tickets. Well, it was an open

:53:59. > :54:04.goal. The pranksters online saw the potential. Thank you for joining the

:54:05. > :54:10.Walkers wave and celebrating the Uefa league final. They were

:54:11. > :54:18.submitting photographs of serial killers and criminals, and videos

:54:19. > :54:21.showing Gary Lineker uploading their photographs were uploaded to

:54:22. > :54:27.Twitter. The online feature has now been shut down. This comes a month

:54:28. > :54:36.after Pepsi had to pull an advert featuring Kendall Jenner amid

:54:37. > :54:40.speculation that they were trivialising street protests. She

:54:41. > :54:47.leaves a photo shoot to join a police demonstration and she hands

:54:48. > :54:51.and officer a can of Pepsi to cheers and applause. It was much ridiculed

:54:52. > :54:56.and was posted on you tube but pulled in less than 24 hours. Let's

:54:57. > :55:01.I can now talk to Allyson Stewart-Allen who is a branding

:55:02. > :55:03.expert and chief executive of International Marketing Partners.

:55:04. > :55:11.Do they never learn or do they see this as an opportunity? What happens

:55:12. > :55:16.is the advertising agencies create the ads, they are often tested, the

:55:17. > :55:22.marketing heads say, yes, we will go ahead with this. But the marketing

:55:23. > :55:27.heads are warned there are risks with every campaign so they are not

:55:28. > :55:32.blindly going into an approval process. They are well aware that

:55:33. > :55:37.hijacking like this and the tests of adverts have certain ramifications

:55:38. > :55:41.when they are not well received. Yet decisions are made in any case,

:55:42. > :55:46.let's go ahead because the chances are perceived as low. Who do they

:55:47. > :55:51.test this on? If you look at the Kendall Jenner one, clearly that was

:55:52. > :55:55.going to offend sections of US society. Did they not test it on

:55:56. > :56:01.those sections or did they see it as a calculated risk? It depends on the

:56:02. > :56:07.personalities and the culture of the business and their risk appetite. In

:56:08. > :56:11.the Pepsi case I do not have data that says it was tested with these

:56:12. > :56:15.groups and genders and socio- economic groups, but it should have

:56:16. > :56:20.been if it was not. They should not have gone into it knowing fully all

:56:21. > :56:25.of the risks from all of the target market that Pepsi has, which is

:56:26. > :56:30.pretty much everyone. Some products are very clear in who they are

:56:31. > :56:35.trying to reach. Feminine products is obvious, whereas brands like

:56:36. > :56:41.Pepsi appeal to everyone. It is very difficult. The lesson is to err on

:56:42. > :56:45.the side of conservatism. But that means it could be boring.

:56:46. > :56:51.Potentially, but not really. The goal is engagement, the goal of any

:56:52. > :56:55.brand whether it is online or on TV, off-line, the goal is to try to get

:56:56. > :57:00.the consumer to take a course of action, click on like button, tell

:57:01. > :57:06.your friends, tweet about it, but it take some action, even possibly buy

:57:07. > :57:11.the product. This is the ultimate goal, so engagement comes at a

:57:12. > :57:17.price. Engagement is interesting because people did get engaged with

:57:18. > :57:24.this Walkers advert. They might say, it went viral, we still got

:57:25. > :57:27.advertising out of it. Yes and no. Having murderers and other people

:57:28. > :57:32.that potentially get associated with your brand is not what you are

:57:33. > :57:38.after. You are trying to associate the brand with good things. Yes,

:57:39. > :57:41.they got engagement, but the wrong kind of engagement. You have to

:57:42. > :57:45.think back through and that is the challenge for any marketing head. Am

:57:46. > :57:51.I prepared to go ahead with this knowing there is a risk ahead of me?

:57:52. > :57:54.It was quite naive. It was very naive because you would have known

:57:55. > :58:00.that people for fun will try something out. And look what

:58:01. > :58:02.happened. Thank you so much for coming in.

:58:03. > :58:16.Victoria is back on bank holiday Monday with a general election

:58:17. > :58:21.audience debate live from Dunstable. She will be discussing all the key

:58:22. > :58:25.issues ahead of next month's vote. Do tune in then. Have a lovely day

:58:26. > :58:34.today. Thank you for your company.