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:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.

:00:11. > :00:19.Theresa May puts an offer on the table about three million EU

:00:20. > :00:21.citizens living in the UK - they will be allowed

:00:22. > :00:33.I want to give EU citizens certainty but I also want those same rights

:00:34. > :00:35.for UK citizens living in the European Union.

:00:36. > :00:38.We'll have all the details and we'll be hearing from EU citizens

:00:39. > :00:42.It's neither fair, it can't be a serious offer.

:00:43. > :00:47.We feel it falls short in so many different ways.

:00:48. > :00:52.As residents in eleven tower blocks in England are told

:00:53. > :00:55.they may not be safe, we'll ask how many more buildings

:00:56. > :00:57.could be affected once all the checks are done.

:00:58. > :01:01.What about your school, your hospital, your leisure centre,

:01:02. > :01:08.Do you know that's not the same material?

:01:09. > :01:18.An urgent appeal has been launched to find more black blood donors for

:01:19. > :01:22.help with those with sickle cell disease. We will speak to two

:01:23. > :01:28.families of those living with the disease.

:01:29. > :01:32.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:33. > :01:36.We'd love to hear from you if you're an EU national living in the UK.

:01:37. > :01:43.We're also talking about fire safety this morning.

:01:44. > :01:46.If your flat is covered in cladding, has your landlord been in touch

:01:47. > :01:57.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:01:58. > :02:00.use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged

:02:01. > :02:08.German Chancellor Angela Merkel has described Theresa May's offer to

:02:09. > :02:12.give European citizens rights after Brexit living in the UK is a good

:02:13. > :02:16.start. At a summit last night, the Prime Minister said nobody in the UK

:02:17. > :02:20.lawfully would be forced to leave on the day of Brexit, nor did she want

:02:21. > :02:26.to split up families. In return the EU would have to operate in parallel

:02:27. > :02:29.deal for EU nationals. -- offer a camp parable deal -- offer a

:02:30. > :02:32.comparable deal. A year to the day since the UK

:02:33. > :02:35.voted to leave the EU, European leaders are digesting

:02:36. > :02:38.the offer made to them by Theresa May over

:02:39. > :02:40.dinner at this summit. She said she wanted no families

:02:41. > :02:42.to split because of Brexit. EU citizens with five years

:02:43. > :02:45.residents would have settled status, meaning lifetime access to health,

:02:46. > :02:46.education and benefits. And there will be a grace period

:02:47. > :02:50.for new arrivals to build up The EU's prime ministers

:02:51. > :02:53.and presidents made their own proposal on this huge issue

:02:54. > :02:54.earlier this year. This is the first time they have

:02:55. > :02:57.heard the British view, and they are waiting for the small

:02:58. > :03:00.print to be published TRANSLATION: Theresa May made it

:03:01. > :03:04.clear today that EU citizens who have been in Great Britain

:03:05. > :03:07.for five years can That's a good start,

:03:08. > :03:13.but of course, there are many, many other questions about Brexit -

:03:14. > :03:17.about finances, about the relationship with Ireland -

:03:18. > :03:19.which means we still have a lot But Mrs May could be

:03:20. > :03:25.walking into a big row. The EU wants a role for European

:03:26. > :03:28.judges - she doesn't. They want more rights for families -

:03:29. > :03:31.she doesn't seem so sure. And that's before a potential

:03:32. > :03:34.argument that could be even bigger - how much money does the UK

:03:35. > :03:49.owe the EU? We can speak to our correspondent in

:03:50. > :03:55.Brussels, David Eades. What's the reaction so far to Theresa May's

:03:56. > :03:59.proposal? I think it's fair to say that so far it's muted. Interesting

:04:00. > :04:02.that last night there was no opportunity for discussion at all.

:04:03. > :04:07.The only comments we got on what Mrs May had to say it were a brief one

:04:08. > :04:11.from German Chancellor Angela Merkel saying it was a good start but there

:04:12. > :04:16.was an awful lot of work to be done, and a similarly brief one from the

:04:17. > :04:21.Austrian Chancellor. He has spoken again this morning to spell out, a

:04:22. > :04:26.jab in the ribs for Britain, saying Brexit will cost Britain growth and

:04:27. > :04:30.harm the standard of living. But he did point out it was a good first

:04:31. > :04:34.start, the offer Theresa May has put on the table. Other than that, not a

:04:35. > :04:39.huge amount of response, and I don't think that's accidental. It's worth

:04:40. > :04:43.bearing in mind that while Brexit is obviously the big issue for all of

:04:44. > :04:47.us in the UK, and all those living in the UK and British living abroad,

:04:48. > :04:51.there is a message here, and the message coming from the likes of

:04:52. > :04:59.Angela Merkel and new French president Emmanuel Macron, is that

:05:00. > :05:01.Brexit an issue we have to deal with, but we have our own fish to

:05:02. > :05:05.fry, our own problems and opportunities, and this should be

:05:06. > :05:10.moment of optimism and not pessimism on how people see the EU. Brexit is

:05:11. > :05:16.here but it's not front and centre in the minds of most of the other 27

:05:17. > :05:17.EU leaders. David Eades in Brussels. We will be speaking about this

:05:18. > :05:20.throughout the programme. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:05:21. > :05:28.Newsroom with a summary The government says samples of

:05:29. > :05:32.cladding from 11 high-rise buildings in England have been found to be

:05:33. > :05:40.combustible. Safety checks have been carried out because of the Grenfell

:05:41. > :05:42.Tower fire. The checks across eight council areas including planners,

:05:43. > :05:44.Manchester and Camden in north London where cladding is being

:05:45. > :05:46.removed from five tower blocks. It took a tragedy to change

:05:47. > :05:49.fire safety in Britain. It's so frustrating that we have

:05:50. > :05:51.been asking for the building regulations to be reviewed every

:05:52. > :05:55.year, to nothing at all has regulations to be reviewed every

:05:56. > :05:58.year, and nothing at all has Already, in another London borough,

:05:59. > :06:01.they are stripping off cladding The cladding here is similar to that

:06:02. > :06:06.used on Grenfell Tower. Camden Council claims

:06:07. > :06:09.it was misled, and was told the cladding used on these

:06:10. > :06:13.buildings was a safer type. The cladding will be a key part

:06:14. > :06:15.of the investigation Like many other buildings,

:06:16. > :06:21.its outer skin was an aluminium The best cladding has a mineral

:06:22. > :06:26.core, which doesn't burn. But the core at Grenfell

:06:27. > :06:29.was polyethylene, which might have been a factor that caused

:06:30. > :06:34.the fire to spread. The government says it's now

:06:35. > :06:37.testing 600 buildings, but there are reviews under way

:06:38. > :06:40.on privately owned buildings, too. Premier Inn has told the BBC that

:06:41. > :06:43.three of its hotels did not appear to comply with government guidelines

:06:44. > :06:50.for tall buildings. The company said it had received

:06:51. > :06:53.independent expert advice that the hotels could stay open

:06:54. > :06:57.given other fire safety measures. But many other buildings owned

:06:58. > :07:01.by others elsewhere could be The Prime Minister,

:07:02. > :07:07.booed again, on a visit The deadly fire at Grenfell Tower

:07:08. > :07:15.will change how buildings are built. The political legacy

:07:16. > :07:31.is still unravelling. The public spending watchdog has

:07:32. > :07:36.criticised the economic case for the new nuclear power station being

:07:37. > :07:39.built at Hinkley Point in Somerset. The National Audit Office says

:07:40. > :07:43.ministers have locked consumers into a risky and expensive project with

:07:44. > :07:48.uncertain benefits. State-controlled firms in France and China will run

:07:49. > :07:50.the plant and are paying the ?18 billion construction bill.

:07:51. > :07:56.A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales would

:07:57. > :08:00.face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale outbreaks of

:08:01. > :08:03.disorder because of budget cuts. The Chief Constable of the West

:08:04. > :08:07.Midlands, Dave Thompson, said neighbourhood street patrols would

:08:08. > :08:11.disappear unless there was fresh investment. Home Secretary Amber

:08:12. > :08:13.Rudd has acknowledged police resources are very tight but said

:08:14. > :08:16.she wouldn't rush into releasing extra money.

:08:17. > :08:22.There is an urgent appeal to find more black blood donors for sickle

:08:23. > :08:26.cell patients. The NHS Blood and Transplant campaign follows a rise

:08:27. > :08:29.in the number of people with an African or Caribbean background

:08:30. > :08:34.being diagnosed with the disease. It's caused by a faulty gene that

:08:35. > :08:38.effects how red blood cells develop and is particularly common among

:08:39. > :08:41.black people. The disease affects 15,000 people in the UK and more

:08:42. > :08:44.than 300 babies are born with it each year.

:08:45. > :08:46.A former American diplomatic officer has been arrested and charged

:08:47. > :08:50.with giving top secret defence documents to a Chinese agent.

:08:51. > :08:52.Kevin Mallory is alleged to have travelled to Shanghai

:08:53. > :08:54.earlier this year - he told FBI agents he believed

:08:55. > :09:02.the person he met there was working for a Chinese think tank.

:09:03. > :09:10.Virgin media has told 800,000 customers to change their passwords

:09:11. > :09:15.to protect against being hacked. An investigation by Which? Found

:09:16. > :09:19.hackers could access the provider's super hub two Ruta allowing access

:09:20. > :09:25.to smart appliances. Virgin media said the risk was small but asked

:09:26. > :09:28.users to update passwords immediately.

:09:29. > :09:30.Performances begin on the main stages at

:09:31. > :09:33.Radiohead lead the line-up exactly 20 years after their first headline

:09:34. > :09:35.appearance that also includes the veteran American singer,

:09:36. > :09:41.There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

:09:42. > :09:43.with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

:09:44. > :09:46.by the recent tragedies in London and Manchester.

:09:47. > :09:53.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30.

:09:54. > :09:55.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:09:56. > :09:58.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:09:59. > :10:06.Let's get some sport now with John - and there's been more success

:10:07. > :10:08.for England's young footballers - it's becoming a bit

:10:09. > :10:17.I think the senior side will certainly be looking at the relative

:10:18. > :10:21.success the younger teams have been having because it's been a great few

:10:22. > :10:27.months for English football. The U17s side reached the final of the

:10:28. > :10:32.European Championships. Then the U20s won the under 20 World Cup in

:10:33. > :10:35.two weeks ago. And now the U21s have reached the semifinals of the

:10:36. > :10:40.European Championships following a 3-0 victory over Poland last night.

:10:41. > :10:44.They haven't reached the semifinal since 2009. Relative success across

:10:45. > :10:48.the board. Demarai Gray got the England opener after six minutes

:10:49. > :10:52.last night. Norwich's Jacob Murphy. The second. Lewis Baker got a third

:10:53. > :10:57.from the penalty spot. You have to say, definite signs of progress

:10:58. > :11:01.across the board in English football. As English football fans

:11:02. > :11:08.we get excited and get ahead of ourselves. We ask if it's a new Iraq

:11:09. > :11:11.for in this football, but it maybe it's just the journalists. It's

:11:12. > :11:15.always easy to get carried away when we see success in a national teams,

:11:16. > :11:21.but what's significant here is the weights across the board across the

:11:22. > :11:24.age groups. -- is the way it's across the board. Let's look at some

:11:25. > :11:34.of the reaction following the 3-0 victory. Chelsea player Nathaniel

:11:35. > :11:39.Chalobah who played last night, did. Tammy Abraham, also of Chelsea, said

:11:40. > :11:42.to be signing for Swansea on loan was on the substitutes bench last

:11:43. > :11:50.night but has been significant in the performances so far...

:11:51. > :11:56.Some debate about who would take the penalty for the third goal last

:11:57. > :12:00.night! Good to see young players taking responsibility. And David

:12:01. > :12:05.James, the former England goalkeeper offered his congratulations.

:12:06. > :12:11.We will wait to see who they face. There are still big teams left in,

:12:12. > :12:19.Spain and Germany among the favourites. If we look at the senior

:12:20. > :12:23.side, what impact will it have? Will it affect Gareth Southgate's plans?

:12:24. > :12:27.Significant to hear what Gareth Southgate had to Saint following the

:12:28. > :12:31.success of the U20s when they won the World Cup. He said it's down to

:12:32. > :12:35.the top sides in the Premier League to give young players opportunities.

:12:36. > :12:39.He will point to the success of Saint Georges Park, as will be FA,

:12:40. > :12:43.the National Centre of footballing excellence where all the young

:12:44. > :12:47.players go through. Signs that the development of young players is

:12:48. > :12:52.working at the fantastic site in Burton upon Trent. What's key is the

:12:53. > :12:56.often point to some of the failings that senior players have had,

:12:57. > :12:59.certainly in the latter stages of tournaments. What is key here is

:13:00. > :13:03.that big tournament experience for younger players at each age group,

:13:04. > :13:07.playing in big games at the latter stages of tournaments will serve

:13:08. > :13:11.them well when they potentially make the move up to the senior team. Big

:13:12. > :13:16.tournament experience counts and at the moment these young players

:13:17. > :13:17.certainly have it. We will catch up with John again in around half an

:13:18. > :13:22.hour. So, exactly a year to the day

:13:23. > :13:25.since Britain voted to leave the European Union, Theresa May has

:13:26. > :13:28.given more details on the rights of EU citizens living

:13:29. > :13:30.in the UK after Brexit. Any EU citizen who's been

:13:31. > :13:33.here for five years or more They'll have a new

:13:34. > :13:37.immigration status. access to education,

:13:38. > :13:46.healthcare and other benefits. Mrs May told fellow leaders

:13:47. > :13:48.that the offer would apply only if the EU offered a reciprocal

:13:49. > :13:51.deal for British expats. It's thought around three

:13:52. > :13:53.million EU citizens living Well, there's yet more talking this

:13:54. > :13:56.morning but initially, the plans have been given a cautious

:13:57. > :13:59.welcome by EU leaders, with the German chancellor

:14:00. > :14:01.Mrs Merkel describing them A short time ago, Theresa May said

:14:02. > :14:05.that this was a fair and serious offer that would offer comfort to EU

:14:06. > :14:10.citizens living in the UK. Last night, I was pleased to be able

:14:11. > :14:14.to set out what is a very fair and serious offer for EU citizens

:14:15. > :14:17.living in the United Kingdom, and the government will set out

:14:18. > :14:22.more detailed proposals on Monday. I want to reassure all those

:14:23. > :14:24.EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

:14:25. > :14:28.in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

:14:29. > :14:30.families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

:14:31. > :14:38.the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

:14:39. > :14:42.that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

:14:43. > :14:47.of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

:14:48. > :14:52.but we have made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

:14:53. > :14:54.that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens living

:14:55. > :14:57.in the United Kingdom Anne-Laure Donskoy is the founding

:14:58. > :15:05.member of The3Million - the grassroots organisation set up

:15:06. > :15:07.to lobby the government to protect the rights of EU citizens living

:15:08. > :15:10.in the UK. She told me of her disappointment

:15:11. > :15:24.at Theresa May's statement. We feel it's a really disappointing

:15:25. > :15:30.statement. It's neither fair, it can't be a serious offer. We feel it

:15:31. > :15:39.falls short in so many different ways. It doesn't give any indication

:15:40. > :15:46.of our full indivisible rights being protected. It also doesn't talk

:15:47. > :15:50.about the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice that would

:15:51. > :15:56.act as an arbiter in terms of our rights during the withdrawal of the

:15:57. > :16:00.Article 50 agreement. What Theresa May is saying is if you have been

:16:01. > :16:04.here five years or more, you would be able to stay and have full

:16:05. > :16:08.benefits as an EU citizen in this country. It doesn't say that at all.

:16:09. > :16:13.What it says and what it mentions is if you have been here lawfully,

:16:14. > :16:17.which leaves potentially a lot of people out, because a lot of people

:16:18. > :16:21.currently do not meet permanent resident status. Not only because

:16:22. > :16:25.they haven't been here for five years, but because they don't mean

:16:26. > :16:30.certain criteria that is in contradiction with EU legislation.

:16:31. > :16:33.Like who, for example? People who might not know about it because it

:16:34. > :16:38.wasn't advertised. That would include a lot of students. Stay at

:16:39. > :16:46.home mothers and fathers, for instance. People who are deemed

:16:47. > :16:50.self-sufficient. A number of retired people. People in self-employment,

:16:51. > :16:55.some categories. Theresa May also saying that if you haven't been here

:16:56. > :16:59.for those five years, you can build up those rights and be here for a

:17:00. > :17:04.shorter period of time, but you can still build up the rights to be able

:17:05. > :17:06.to stay. So people have the opportunity to ensure they can stay,

:17:07. > :17:15.even if they arrive now. We don't know what the new rules

:17:16. > :17:19.will be. As usual, the devil will be in the detail. At the moment, the

:17:20. > :17:23.statement is quite vague and we need to see what the detail will be in

:17:24. > :17:29.order to make a proper judgment. When you have spoken to people, your

:17:30. > :17:32.organisation, representing people here in Britain, what are the

:17:33. > :17:37.concerns they have? What is it they want to hear to put their minds at

:17:38. > :17:41.rest? They want certainty. This does not offer certainty. The statement

:17:42. > :17:47.talks about certainty, but then, in the next point or so, it talks about

:17:48. > :17:53.aiming to be able to offer those rights. So when you are aiming, you

:17:54. > :17:58.cannot offer certainty. You have got a meeting, haven't you, with civil

:17:59. > :18:01.servants, and with the Brexit secretary David Davis next week,

:18:02. > :18:04.what are you going to be saying and what do you want to hear in return?

:18:05. > :18:10.It is just a technical meeting, so we will be looking at some aspects

:18:11. > :18:15.of the potential for a registration scheme that has been mentioned this

:18:16. > :18:19.week. Although we want to know more about it, what are the motivations

:18:20. > :18:25.behind it, for what purpose, because having just a registration scheme on

:18:26. > :18:29.its own means nothing. And as we know, there will be more details

:18:30. > :18:35.announced about this proposal on Monday, probably Monday morning. But

:18:36. > :18:41.what the statement does is give an indication of the direction of

:18:42. > :18:45.travel, potentially. If what is in there, which we can read us

:18:46. > :18:48.potentially, because there are two little words in there, which are

:18:49. > :18:57.really important, settled status. Settled status as a precise meaning

:18:58. > :19:00.in law. In this case, it means that we would be, potentially, we don't

:19:01. > :19:04.know yet, but it sounds like we could be treated in the future as

:19:05. > :19:08.third country nationals, and this is why we are saying that this is not

:19:09. > :19:14.fair, because we came here under a completely different set of rules.

:19:15. > :19:17.If I came to the UK as a non-EU person, I would expect to be treated

:19:18. > :19:23.as a third country national. However, I didn't. We did not.

:19:24. > :19:25.Therefore, all of a sudden, all our acquired rights will be gone.

:19:26. > :19:27.Alexandrine Kantor was born in France and made her life

:19:28. > :19:34.She works as an electrical engineer in Oxford.

:19:35. > :19:42.Good to speak to you today. Theresa May was saying she wants to give

:19:43. > :19:47.certainty to people like you. Do you feel this announcement has given you

:19:48. > :19:55.that certainty? Not at all, because I don't have five years requirement,

:19:56. > :20:00.and I even don't know if I am OK with that status. And most

:20:01. > :20:06.important, I don't know if I will be OK with that new immigration system.

:20:07. > :20:10.I don't really know what will happen. Tell us about your personal

:20:11. > :20:18.situation here, how this has affected you. I arrived in the UK

:20:19. > :20:26.three years ago. I moved into the Oxford area. I work as an electrical

:20:27. > :20:31.engineer for the UK Government, and I have a finance plan with my car, I

:20:32. > :20:39.cannot break it for three years, I have a mortgage that I cannot break

:20:40. > :20:45.for the next two years, and it is on 35 years. I am here on my own, so I

:20:46. > :20:50.have no family here, so I really love my job. I really love my

:20:51. > :21:00.family. I have my finance commitments, and I feel like I am

:21:01. > :21:06.stuck here on Theresa May. I am anxious. You sound very emotional.

:21:07. > :21:12.It is emotional because I am not sure if I did the correct career

:21:13. > :21:18.choices. I know that I am helping my new country because I am feeding a

:21:19. > :21:22.shortage of skills, they don't have enough electrical engineers. On a

:21:23. > :21:30.personal point of view, was it a very good choice to come? I don't

:21:31. > :21:36.regret, but I am left in limbo, and I don't know if I am in the middle

:21:37. > :21:40.of a situation that I didn't have a fault, I didn't choose and nobody

:21:41. > :21:45.warned me. What effect has this had on you in the last year? It is a

:21:46. > :21:51.year to date since the Brexit referendum, how tough has that year

:21:52. > :21:57.been for you? It's tough because in some point, I lost my Nan, so I had

:21:58. > :22:02.money to buy a house, but I postponed because I wanted to know

:22:03. > :22:05.what would happen to me. I postponed, but I didn't have any

:22:06. > :22:14.answer from the government. So at some point, I said, I can put my

:22:15. > :22:21.whole life spendings On Hold. I did, but life goes on. I am committing to

:22:22. > :22:27.that house, and now we have an offer and it is not generous at all. Now I

:22:28. > :22:33.feel like I am stuck. My family in Europe doesn't really understand me,

:22:34. > :22:46.because we thought that it could never happen in Europe. It is just

:22:47. > :22:51.now... I just don't... I did maybe some bad choice... I don't know. Do

:22:52. > :22:55.you have friends here in the UK who are also from France or other parts

:22:56. > :22:58.of the EU? I wonder how they have been feeling over the last year and

:22:59. > :23:04.whether you have spoken to them about this latest proposal. Yes, I

:23:05. > :23:12.work in a very international research centre, so it is quite full

:23:13. > :23:18.of Europeans. Some of us decide to go abroad. They want to leave the

:23:19. > :23:23.UK. Some want to stay, but they are not very confident. Some want to

:23:24. > :23:31.leave, yeah. What would your message be to Theresa May? My message to

:23:32. > :23:36.Theresa May is, you are just going to trade people to gain some

:23:37. > :23:43.economical deal. We are humans, human beings, we are British

:23:44. > :23:47.friends, colleagues, the situation doesn't only affect us, it affects

:23:48. > :23:51.the British citizens, they need to be protected, they need to have

:23:52. > :24:00.their family with them. And the economy needs the EU workers. EU

:24:01. > :24:06.citizens are contributing, it is just not fair and it's not serious,

:24:07. > :24:09.and it's definitely not generous at all. Thank you for speaking to us

:24:10. > :24:20.today. I appreciate your time. Breaking news, Jean-Claude Juncker

:24:21. > :24:24.has said that Britain's preliminary offer on the status of EU citizens

:24:25. > :24:30.in the UK after it leaves the block is not sufficient. As we went into

:24:31. > :24:34.the second day of EU summit, he was asked if he had a clearer idea if he

:24:35. > :24:40.knew what kind of Brexit the British Government wanted. He answered that

:24:41. > :24:44.he had a brisk and emphatic no. Theresa May told the summit on

:24:45. > :24:48.Thursday that any EU citizen that had been in the UK for five years

:24:49. > :24:51.would have two be given a new immigration status, which will give

:24:52. > :24:56.them access to education, health care and other benefits. But as we

:24:57. > :25:02.have heard from our guests, concerns about there being no meat on the

:25:03. > :25:04.bones of the offer. Let's bring in Ian Watson, our political

:25:05. > :25:12.correspondent. The two guests we have spoken to spoke on the heart

:25:13. > :25:16.about how worried they are about their future. Alexandrina said there

:25:17. > :25:21.is no certainty from Theresa May, despite what the Prime Minister has

:25:22. > :25:30.told people. Tell us what we know, what is concrete about this

:25:31. > :25:39.proposal? I am wondering if Ian can't hear us now. Ian, can you hear

:25:40. > :25:42.us? That is frustrating, because he is only down in Westminster. We will

:25:43. > :25:47.try to re-establish that. We will talk about this story throughout the

:25:48. > :25:55.programme here. If you want to get in touch, if you are an EU citizen

:25:56. > :26:00.in the UK, get in touch with us, Dave facelock says, I have no issue

:26:01. > :26:06.with people that pay their way. Working migrants having enriched our

:26:07. > :26:09.country and helped us to prosper, and Michael has e-mailed to say it

:26:10. > :26:16.is already enshrined in law that any foreign citizen who has illegally

:26:17. > :26:20.entered the UK can apply for indefinitely to remain. This is not

:26:21. > :26:25.an offer by Mrs May, she cannot stop it happening unless she changes the

:26:26. > :26:36.law. She is offering nothing. Still to come:

:26:37. > :26:40.As the government finds 11 buildings with combustible

:26:41. > :26:42.cladding across England, we'll be asking some of their

:26:43. > :26:46.And, the NHS wants more black blood donors to come forward to treat

:26:47. > :26:48.the fastest growing genetic disease in the UK.

:26:49. > :26:51.We'll be discussing the rise in sickle cell cases.

:26:52. > :26:57.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:26:58. > :27:02.the German Chancellor Angela Merkel has described Theresa May's offered

:27:03. > :27:07.to guarantee rights or EU citizens living in Britain after Brexit as a

:27:08. > :27:11.good start at a summit in Brussels last night. But one minister said

:27:12. > :27:15.that no one in the UK lawfully would be forced to leave on the day of

:27:16. > :27:17.Brexit, but in return, the EU would have to offer a comparable deal for

:27:18. > :27:19.British National 's. I want to reassure all those

:27:20. > :27:22.EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

:27:23. > :27:25.in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

:27:26. > :27:27.families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

:27:28. > :27:33.the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

:27:34. > :27:37.that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

:27:38. > :27:48.of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

:27:49. > :27:51.but we've made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

:27:52. > :27:53.that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens

:27:54. > :28:01.living in the United Kingdom In the last few moments, we have

:28:02. > :28:03.heard from the president of the European Commission Jean-Claude

:28:04. > :28:09.Juncker in response to the proposals from the UK. Mr Juncker saying they

:28:10. > :28:15.are a first step, but that step isn't sufficient. More for you on

:28:16. > :28:19.that through the morning. 11 residential high-rise buildings in

:28:20. > :28:21.England have been found to be covered in combustible cladding

:28:22. > :28:27.during urgent safety tests carried out after the Grenfell Tower fire.

:28:28. > :28:30.The buildings are spread across eight local authority areas,

:28:31. > :28:33.including Camden in North London. Cladding is being removed from fire

:28:34. > :28:38.tower blocks. Premier Inn has revealed its concern that cladding

:28:39. > :28:42.on three of its hotels don't meet government guidance. The public

:28:43. > :28:47.spending watchdog has criticised the economic case for the new nuclear

:28:48. > :28:52.power station being built at Hinkley Point in Somerset. The National

:28:53. > :28:55.Audit Office says ministers have locks consumers into a risky and

:28:56. > :28:58.expensive project with uncertain benefits. State-controlled firms in

:28:59. > :29:05.France and China will run the plant and are paying the ?18 billion

:29:06. > :29:08.construction Bill. Virgin media has told 800,000 customers to change

:29:09. > :29:14.their passwords to protect against being hacked. An investigation by

:29:15. > :29:21.Which Centres Back Found That Hackers Could Access Their Routers.

:29:22. > :29:24.Virgin Media Said The Risk Was Small, but advised customers using

:29:25. > :29:29.default network and food passwords to update them immediately.

:29:30. > :29:35.Performances will begin on the main stages at the Glastonbury Festival.

:29:36. > :29:46.Radiohead lead the line up 20 years after their first appearance.

:29:47. > :29:48.also includes the veteran American singer,

:29:49. > :29:51.There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

:29:52. > :30:03.with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

:30:04. > :30:17.England's under 21 team reached the semifinals of the U20s European

:30:18. > :30:22.Championships. They beat Poland 3-0. Demarai Gray got the opening goal.

:30:23. > :30:27.The U20s recently won the World Cup a little under two weeks ago. In

:30:28. > :30:33.Rugby, Wales ended their to test summer tour on a high with a victory

:30:34. > :30:37.over Samoa. They beat Tonga in their opening tour match. Johanna Konta

:30:38. > :30:45.was hugely devastated after being knocked out of the Aegon classical

:30:46. > :30:48.stop she lost in straight sets. She said afterwards that just because

:30:49. > :30:51.I'm number seven in the world doesn't mean I'm entitled to win

:30:52. > :30:57.every match. In cricket, they are saying farewell to a true great of

:30:58. > :31:01.broadcasting. Henry Blofeld is hanging up his microphone after 20

:31:02. > :31:05.years in the job. If anyone is not familiar with his work on Test match

:31:06. > :31:07.special, where have you been? His voice is some must with the sport

:31:08. > :31:11.and he will be missed. 11 tower blocks in eight

:31:12. > :31:14.local authority areas in England including Plymouth,

:31:15. > :31:16.Manchester and Camden in north London have been found to have

:31:17. > :31:19.cladding which could catch fire. About 600 buildings with cladding

:31:20. > :31:22.are being checked as a result of the Grenfell Tower disaster last

:31:23. > :31:24.week, in which at Meanwhile, the BBC has learned that

:31:25. > :31:30.Premier Inn is "extremely concerned" about cladding on three

:31:31. > :31:33.of its hotels. Just remind us what kind

:31:34. > :31:46.of cladding talking about? The first thing to say is not all

:31:47. > :31:49.cladding will be affected by this. The way cladding works, you have two

:31:50. > :31:55.metal sheets on the outside of the building. In the Grenfell Tower they

:31:56. > :31:58.were aluminium. Another material is sandwiched between those sheets and

:31:59. > :32:04.it's that sensual sandwich filler material which is controversial. In

:32:05. > :32:08.the case of Grenfell they used a particular brand

:32:09. > :32:13.The brand used at Grenfell was something called Reynobond.

:32:14. > :32:23.Three different types with different levels of flammability.

:32:24. > :32:30.The government guidance appears to say it should only be

:32:31. > :32:34.using this one above 18 metres - the most fire retardant.

:32:35. > :32:38.that is the height fire ladders can go to.

:32:39. > :32:45.At Grenfell we believe - although not confirmed -

:32:46. > :32:50.And some believe that could have been one reason why the fire

:32:51. > :32:58.Presumably one not just talking about tower blocks. It ends up being

:32:59. > :33:00.a bit misleading. They came out to say there were 600 tower blocks

:33:01. > :33:08.across England that could be affected. The 600 figure is the

:33:09. > :33:12.total number cladding in some way. They are working at how many of the

:33:13. > :33:17.600 have the more flammable form of cladding on. So far they have said

:33:18. > :33:20.11 but they are doing 100 tests per day, so we can expect to see the

:33:21. > :33:24.number go up over the weekend. The pictures are from Camden yesterday

:33:25. > :33:29.where they were taking some panels down already. They found out they

:33:30. > :33:36.were the more combustible type. The Council Bear said big desperately

:33:37. > :33:38.cancel there said they were surprised because they thought they

:33:39. > :33:45.had ordered the more safe version. We thought we were dealing

:33:46. > :33:47.with reputable companies and we feel let down,

:33:48. > :33:49.and our tenants feel let down. My absolute priority is to make

:33:50. > :33:52.sure our tenants feel safe which is why we are putting in safe

:33:53. > :33:55.24/7 fire wardens and why we are reacting quickly to take

:33:56. > :34:02.down those extra panels. What happens now? More checks going

:34:03. > :34:07.on over the weekend. Sample is being sent from council buildings, housing

:34:08. > :34:12.associations, to the company that has been commissioned by the

:34:13. > :34:14.government to test fire samples. But there are plenty of private

:34:15. > :34:19.buildings across the country that will be higher than 18 metres with

:34:20. > :34:25.cladding attached. The BBC Newsnight programme last night reporting that

:34:26. > :34:28.Premier Inn says it's very concerned about three of its sites in

:34:29. > :34:32.Maidenhead, Brentford and Tottenham that it says they do not seem to

:34:33. > :34:37.apply for government guidance for tall buildings, but they don't

:34:38. > :34:42.appear to be the version as at Grenfell Tower, slightly more flame

:34:43. > :34:50.retardant. There are other forms of accommodation, student flats have

:34:51. > :34:53.gone the cross country recent times. In the meantime, police are carrying

:34:54. > :34:58.out a criminal investigation as to what happened at Grenfell itself. We

:34:59. > :35:01.expect to hear more in the next 24 hours over the cladding at that

:35:02. > :35:04.building, from the police, about whether it was illegal or not in

:35:05. > :35:05.their minds. That will be significant when it comes through

:35:06. > :35:09.this afternoon or tomorrow morning. Let's speak now to Nigel Rumble,

:35:10. > :35:13.who lives in a tower block on the Chalcots estate in Camden

:35:14. > :35:16.where the north London council says it is going to remove cladding

:35:17. > :35:19.from five blocks of flats including Graham Worrall, who lives in a nine

:35:20. > :35:24.storey building in Salford and tests are being done

:35:25. > :35:26.on the cladding of his building and others in the area to see

:35:27. > :35:37.if it is similar to that of Grenfell Nigel, thank you for coming in. This

:35:38. > :35:42.must be an incredibly worrying time, not just for you, but everybody

:35:43. > :35:47.living in your plot. It's been a terrible time. I have spoken to many

:35:48. > :35:52.people and many people have spoken to me on the way, and people,

:35:53. > :36:00.especially higher up in the building, I had one lady, a family

:36:01. > :36:04.of three, and she has told me the day after the fire that she hasn't

:36:05. > :36:09.been able to get any sleep at all because she was actually from the

:36:10. > :36:14.19th floor overlooking the Grenfell Tower. She could see the fire and

:36:15. > :36:18.see the flames. Next day she found out what it was she was seeing and

:36:19. > :36:21.how much death she was witnessing. She hasn't been able to sleep. It's

:36:22. > :36:27.been very painful and there have been many typical stories like this.

:36:28. > :36:32.I have had some sleepless nights and have been so dreadfully upset for

:36:33. > :36:40.what has happened over there. In the context of, we felt on our estate

:36:41. > :36:46.that the work carried out was never done to the highest standards. I

:36:47. > :36:50.want to bring in Graham as well. I'm keen for you both to discuss this.

:36:51. > :36:54.At the moment you don't know about the cladding on the side of your

:36:55. > :36:59.building, but that must be worrying in itself. That's correct. Since the

:37:00. > :37:03.fire in London, myself and quite a few of the tenants have been rather

:37:04. > :37:07.concerned regarding fire safety and what kind of cladding has been put

:37:08. > :37:11.up on the outside of the building after the refurbishment. Quite a few

:37:12. > :37:16.vulnerable tenants are really concerned and need to be reassured

:37:17. > :37:21.about the whole fire safety procedure, what's in place, what are

:37:22. > :37:25.the council doing and what are the local authority doing? What is the

:37:26. > :37:30.housing association doing? I'm interested to know what both of you

:37:31. > :37:32.have been told, whether it's from your landlord or the people who

:37:33. > :37:39.maintain the building, about the cladding. Graham, were you ever told

:37:40. > :37:43.anything about the cladding before it went up? Nothing at all. We

:37:44. > :37:48.weren't told what kind of cladding was going to be put up. What kind of

:37:49. > :37:52.insulation would be installed behind the cladding. It was a complete

:37:53. > :38:05.refurbishment of the whole block. It was part of a PFI project. We have

:38:06. > :38:10.been informed the cladding is aluminium ACM that was fitted

:38:11. > :38:17.correctly according to the manufacturers specification and

:38:18. > :38:22.assessed by an independent expert. That's the information we have had

:38:23. > :38:25.from our landlord. Nigel, have you had much information since Camden

:38:26. > :38:30.Council decided to take the cladding off your building. How much have you

:38:31. > :38:36.been told? The day after the fire there was a reaction from the leader

:38:37. > :38:40.of Camden Council. And the Cabinet member for housing of Camden

:38:41. > :38:45.Council, who wrote to all the residents explaining they would

:38:46. > :38:48.start investigations and there would be tests. Yesterday a letter was

:38:49. > :38:54.published to everybody on the estate. It was hand dropped, so it

:38:55. > :39:00.arrived through everybody's letterboxes. The letter did confirm

:39:01. > :39:04.that we had exactly the same cladding that was used at Grenfell.

:39:05. > :39:11.That was a shock to stop it was the third paragraph of the letter and it

:39:12. > :39:15.stated that it was exactly the same material with the polyethylene

:39:16. > :39:19.plastic composite in the centre. That was the confirmation. They said

:39:20. > :39:24.they would set about to remove the panels over the forthcoming weeks. I

:39:25. > :39:31.was going to ask how long it would take, it is weeks? This is the

:39:32. > :39:35.interesting point. Camden offices, principally councillors, not

:39:36. > :39:39.technical experts, they obviously need to be advised by experts, so

:39:40. > :39:43.they have given their best opinion, which is that it needs to come down.

:39:44. > :39:48.The expert opinion, it needs to come down and be replaced by safe

:39:49. > :39:54.material. That's what we as the residents want and demand. However,

:39:55. > :40:01.five tower blocks, and just to paint a proper perspective here, when the

:40:02. > :40:07.work was done originally in 2006, 2007 and 2008, the work for one

:40:08. > :40:11.building took eight months. To get the equipment ordered, to do the

:40:12. > :40:16.work, and that was to install it. To change it, and I am not an expert,

:40:17. > :40:20.but I do have an informed opinion, it will take months, not weeks. It

:40:21. > :40:25.will be a long process. To do all five tower blocks, you are probably

:40:26. > :40:31.looking at at least a minimum of one year to do the work. To read you

:40:32. > :40:37.some of the comments coming in this morning. Chris says he lives in

:40:38. > :40:41.Woolwich in south-east London, a low-rise seven story block. The

:40:42. > :40:45.landlord is PA Housing Association. We were told yesterday our homes

:40:46. > :40:49.meet all current fire safety standards, even though there are no

:40:50. > :40:56.fire extinguishers in tenants homes or communal areas and no fire

:40:57. > :41:03.alarms, no sprinklers in homes or communal areas. Single stairwells.

:41:04. > :41:08.Nigel got in touch and he used to live in a tower block in Maidenhead.

:41:09. > :41:11.The council decided to demolish it in 1995. While still in residence

:41:12. > :41:17.they boarded up the fire escapes. Only after hours on the phone debate

:41:18. > :41:20.remove the boarding. Going forward, Graham, what are the conversations

:41:21. > :41:28.you are having with people in your block? Do they feel safe to be there

:41:29. > :41:35.right now? As I said earlier, there are quite a few vulnerable tenants,

:41:36. > :41:41.disabled, partially sighted tenants and families with young children. We

:41:42. > :41:49.need to know and be reassured about what we need to do. We need an

:41:50. > :41:55.answer. What kind of cladding it is. The main thing is, the tenants need

:41:56. > :42:04.to be reassured that the Housing executives and the local authority

:42:05. > :42:08.leaders are being fully compliant with the health and safety

:42:09. > :42:13.regulation and fire safety guidelines. And consultation with

:42:14. > :42:17.the Fire Service leaders has been sought and gained prior to the

:42:18. > :42:20.renovations commencing in Salford. It's ultimately what you both said,

:42:21. > :42:23.it's having that reassurance and knowing the truth and being able to

:42:24. > :42:25.make an informed decision. Thank you both for taking the time to speak to

:42:26. > :42:28.us this morning. Local groups in West London

:42:29. > :42:31.are still working hard to support those caught up in the fire,

:42:32. > :42:33.especially vulnerable children. Dale Youth boxing club

:42:34. > :42:35.was based in the tower. It's helped nurture dozens

:42:36. > :42:40.of champions at all levels including Olympic gold medal winner

:42:41. > :42:42.James DeGale and current world Now, some of its boxers have

:42:43. > :42:47.returned to show their support. Dale Youth Amateur

:42:48. > :43:04.Boxing Club is famed. It has produced boxing

:43:05. > :43:07.stars like James de Gale. It is now homeless and today

:43:08. > :43:16.is about fundraising and giving some of the boys who practised

:43:17. > :43:18.there a chance to I'm currently the British

:43:19. > :43:33.super flyweight champion. I used to go down Dale Youth

:43:34. > :43:36.when I was younger. I used to go down there

:43:37. > :43:39.sparring with a lot of boys. I have some great

:43:40. > :43:41.memories down there. To come and see what has actually

:43:42. > :43:43.happened, to look at it They've lost their gym,

:43:44. > :43:49.and some of these kids, I met someone today actually

:43:50. > :43:59.who lived up the seventh floor When you meet people like that

:44:00. > :44:04.and they actually do tell you their story,

:44:05. > :44:07.until you meet somebody you do not realise how bad and how

:44:08. > :44:08.unfortunate they were, but like I said he is

:44:09. > :44:11.lucky to have got out. They were a big part

:44:12. > :44:18.of this community. We have been here at least

:44:19. > :44:21.30 years I would say. It is important for everybody

:44:22. > :44:24.to recognise that we were We have been made homeless

:44:25. > :44:31.through the tragedy. Your club has produced

:44:32. > :44:53.some real talent, right? Yeah, we have produced a lot

:44:54. > :45:05.of talent over the years. Obviously the biggest ones

:45:06. > :45:07.are James DeGale and Georgie Groves. Many a fighter has come

:45:08. > :45:10.through and we have the new ones So hopefully some of these might

:45:11. > :45:13.follow in their footsteps. Are you guys going to be boxers?

:45:14. > :45:21.Yeah, I'm a boxer. Yeah?

:45:22. > :45:22.Yeah. You train more, you train hard,

:45:23. > :45:32.you have to beat someone. I am a two time national

:45:33. > :45:41.schoolboy champion. How do you feel about

:45:42. > :45:44.the building that had the fire? I was sad, yeah.

:45:45. > :45:46.Very sad. We have come to train

:45:47. > :45:52.but we are going to make a new Dale Youth boxing club

:45:53. > :46:00.and we are going to train hard. Yeah, I'm 19 years old,

:46:01. > :46:03.I've been boxing for How has it been for you

:46:04. > :46:14.watching what happened? Yeah, it's sad watching the news,

:46:15. > :46:17.a lot of memories in that building. My friend was filming

:46:18. > :46:24.the actual thing at 1am and that is when I saw

:46:25. > :46:52.it, and I found out it You can hear Gabriel in the

:46:53. > :46:59.background, we will talk to him in the next few minutes about sickle

:47:00. > :47:03.cell. Pendleton together, which maintains a number of high-rise

:47:04. > :47:07.blocks in Yorkshire, Lancashire and Pendleton, including the one that

:47:08. > :47:10.Graham Worrell lives in. They have sent a statement. We would like to

:47:11. > :47:14.ensure all our customers and nearby residents that we are doing

:47:15. > :47:18.everything possible to ensure they are protected and kept safe. We are,

:47:19. > :47:22.however, as a precaution, double-checking all procedures today

:47:23. > :47:23.and over the coming weeks. We will reissue fire safety advice to our

:47:24. > :47:27.customers. An urgent appeal has been launched

:47:28. > :47:30.to find more black blood donors The NHS Blood and Transplant

:47:31. > :47:35.campaign follows a rise in the number of people

:47:36. > :47:37.within the black community If patients don't receive blood

:47:38. > :47:43.which has a close enough match, then there is a risk that they can

:47:44. > :47:46.suffer reactions to the donated blood or develop additional

:47:47. > :47:50.antibodies which will make it harder to find matching

:47:51. > :48:02.blood in the future. We can speak now to Edith Victoria

:48:03. > :48:05.and her four-year-old son Gabriel who has sickle cell.

:48:06. > :48:10.Davinia Caballero, who we just saw in our film, who also

:48:11. > :48:16.She is co-director of SickleKan, a London

:48:17. > :48:25.And Nadine Eaton from NHS Blood and Transplant.

:48:26. > :48:29.While Gabriel sits down and we get settled, let's look at the story of

:48:30. > :48:47.sickle cell disease. There is the bone pain,

:48:48. > :48:55.which is in the bone, and painkillers will numb the pain

:48:56. > :48:58.or probably take the pain away You have to distract

:48:59. > :49:03.yourself from it. And then there's the pain

:49:04. > :49:05.where you can have pain that's the worst crisis

:49:06. > :49:08.I've ever had, the lungs. It's like a stabbing pain and it

:49:09. > :49:15.vibrates through your whole body You can't concentrate on anything.

:49:16. > :49:22.It's a pain... There are many times I have

:49:23. > :49:25.made my mum cry because I have said I don't want to be here no more.

:49:26. > :49:29.I want to be out of this world. If this is what life is,

:49:30. > :49:31.I don't want it. These are my two

:49:32. > :49:38.blood pressure tablets. Because when I'm going

:49:39. > :49:40.through a sickle cell crisis, my blood pressure tends

:49:41. > :49:43.to rise because my body is under intense pain,

:49:44. > :49:45.so this is just to keep my blood My folic acid, which increases

:49:46. > :49:49.the red blood cell production, because sickle cell patients,

:49:50. > :49:54.our red blood cells only last for ten days, compared to normal red

:49:55. > :49:57.blood cells which last for 120 days. This just increases

:49:58. > :50:05.the production of the blood cells. This is because

:50:06. > :50:10.our immune systems are very low so it is like an antibiotic that

:50:11. > :50:16.boosts the immune system. Because...?

:50:17. > :50:23.Because you are sickle cell? Go on, because of your...

:50:24. > :50:40.Sickle cell. Edith, I want to talk to you about

:50:41. > :50:45.Gabriel's condition. You found out he had sickle cell disease when he

:50:46. > :50:56.was only a few weeks old. I knew I had the sickle cell trait is. My

:50:57. > :51:00.genotype is AS. If the other parent has the same genotype, AS, the child

:51:01. > :51:07.can take the S from both parents, meaning the child will have sickle

:51:08. > :51:13.cell. It came as a surprise, and I think that the NHS have been amazing

:51:14. > :51:16.with regards to how they have sort of explain how we need to take care

:51:17. > :51:20.of a child that has sickle cell disease. Although I knew I had a

:51:21. > :51:24.sickle cell trait, I had no knowledge about the disorder. What

:51:25. > :51:28.effect does it have, Gabriel was wandering around, and he seems like

:51:29. > :51:33.a happy, normal little boy, how does it affect his life? We have to take

:51:34. > :51:38.a lot of extra care with him. Things like the cold are bad for him. He

:51:39. > :51:42.has to stay hydrated, meaning he is constantly drinking, meaning that

:51:43. > :51:45.through the night, the kidneys may function slightly differently. There

:51:46. > :51:51.is bedwetting that will continue until later than with other

:51:52. > :51:54.children. Extreme temperature changes could cause a crisis. He

:51:55. > :51:58.could fall and hurt himself, that could cause a crisis. His most

:51:59. > :52:03.recent crisis, the one that saw him go to hospital and require a blood

:52:04. > :52:08.transfusion and a blood exchange, they can't work out, the nursery,

:52:09. > :52:11.what exactly happened. He was playing fine. The everything we can

:52:12. > :52:16.assume is that he actually got completely exhausted from playing.

:52:17. > :52:23.Gabriel, as you are wandering past me, do you sometimes feel poorly?

:52:24. > :52:30.No? You always feel well? You can guarantee four-year-olds will

:52:31. > :52:34.disagree with mum. I've grown up and I'm not sick. That is good to hear,

:52:35. > :52:39.we want you to stay well. I want to bring into Vienna as well. You also

:52:40. > :52:43.have sickle cell disease, and am I right, you are having a kidney

:52:44. > :52:48.transplant next week? Yeah, my brother David is giving me a kidney

:52:49. > :52:52.next week. I have been on dialysis for a year now. The thing about it,

:52:53. > :52:55.I never knew growing up, it could affect your kidneys or organ

:52:56. > :52:59.failure, it was not something I was aware of. I found out in 2013 that

:53:00. > :53:04.there is a possibility I would have to have a transplant in my life.

:53:05. > :53:07.What we are hearing is there need to be more black blood donors to come

:53:08. > :53:12.forward. You have both said you did not know much about it, would you

:53:13. > :53:14.say that there is a lack of understanding within the black

:53:15. > :53:20.community, I hate that community, but you know what I mean? There is a

:53:21. > :53:26.lack of awareness, SickleKan is a charity formed by myself and the

:53:27. > :53:33.guy, Kenny, in the video, and we decided that awareness is needed

:53:34. > :53:36.from the patient's side of view. They don't understand the pain we go

:53:37. > :53:40.through, the difference in being able to live an ordinary life, it is

:53:41. > :53:45.not easy for us. It is spreading awareness and getting it out there.

:53:46. > :53:51.People may decide they can help and donate blood. Please do. Madine, how

:53:52. > :53:55.important as this? We need more donors to come forward to donate in

:53:56. > :54:04.the next couple of years. We have seen a 75% increase in RO blood.

:54:05. > :54:09.There is an urgent need for people to come forward. What is the best

:54:10. > :54:14.way, first of all, tell... Hello, lovely. Be careful not to fall over

:54:15. > :54:21.or you will get me in trouble. Come and sit down next to me. Or you can

:54:22. > :54:26.perch on the edge. Just be careful. I am interested in what you think,

:54:27. > :54:29.but what is the NHS doing to engage people so black blood donors come

:54:30. > :54:31.forward and give blood? I am interested to know if you think that

:54:32. > :54:39.is the right strategy. Working with charities like SickleKan, also

:54:40. > :54:48.working with MOBO, working with artists such as Lady Leash, we are

:54:49. > :54:54.doing advertising on Facebook and Instagram. And we are doing

:54:55. > :55:01.educational talks, going to events where we know more of the back

:55:02. > :55:05.population will be attending. It is outreach, but there is more work to

:55:06. > :55:09.be done. What do you think? The work the NHS is doing at the moment is

:55:10. > :55:14.great. Black people do need to realise that you shouldn't have to

:55:15. > :55:17.wait until something affects you before you come forward and make a

:55:18. > :55:23.blood donation. It is something that should be part of your everyday

:55:24. > :55:26.routine. You can donate up to four times in a year. You should put that

:55:27. > :55:33.into your diary, likely would put into a diary a birthday. These blood

:55:34. > :55:42.donations are vital for cancer treatment, leukaemia treatments,

:55:43. > :55:48.and... He has seen you on the TV. Isn't it cool to see mum on TV, is

:55:49. > :55:54.that good? ! People need to realise that these blood donations save 70

:55:55. > :56:00.people. One blood donation can save up to seven babies, six children,

:56:01. > :56:04.and be used on three adults. You could be saving someone's life

:56:05. > :56:08.without realising. It actually costs you nothing. It is a painless

:56:09. > :56:11.procedure. It takes less than an hour of your time from the moment

:56:12. > :56:17.you walk in to make the donation until the moment you leave. You

:56:18. > :56:20.leave feeling fine and there is no reason why so many healthy people

:56:21. > :56:26.over the age of 17 aren't registered, they should be

:56:27. > :56:30.registered on that register. Divina, you said you have your kidney

:56:31. > :56:34.transplant next week, an incredible gesture from your brother, you look

:56:35. > :56:38.pretty well, and I am sure that does not help because I know you are very

:56:39. > :56:42.unwell. Do you feel that people don't really understand? Exactly.

:56:43. > :56:47.They see you looking healthy, and think you are not sick. That is what

:56:48. > :56:50.is horrible about it, it is an invisible illness, you can't see

:56:51. > :56:53.what is going on inside. If it wasn't for blood donations, I

:56:54. > :56:58.wouldn't be here now. I have one on Monday to prepare me for my

:56:59. > :57:00.operation, so I don't have a crisis on the operation table. It is

:57:01. > :57:04.important the black community get out and support us. If they know how

:57:05. > :57:11.it does affect us and how important it is to donate blood, they will

:57:12. > :57:20.support us. If they can see from the tales I share through social media,

:57:21. > :57:24.get up and out and help. It is getting the main media to push us

:57:25. > :57:27.out there, because there is a stigma in the black community about sickle

:57:28. > :57:31.cell. Some of us are ashamed. Because we go through so much, I

:57:32. > :57:35.have had pain everywhere you can think of, I have lost a spleen, a

:57:36. > :57:39.gall bladder, I have had a written detachment, get blood leaks. You

:57:40. > :57:42.don't know what you are going to get from one day to the other, so it is

:57:43. > :57:49.important they support us, because if a dog, who will? If you don't see

:57:50. > :57:52.Gabriel this morning and what to help, I don't know what will.

:57:53. > :57:57.Gabriel, thank you for coming in. You are done now. You don't want to

:57:58. > :58:01.go now? Always the way. Thank you for coming in.

:58:02. > :58:04.Coming up, we live at New Scotland Yard as the police give more details

:58:05. > :58:07.the fire at Grenfell Tower in London.

:58:08. > :58:12.Let's get the latest weather update - with Matt Taylor.

:58:13. > :58:19.What a week of weather in the UK, we have seen extreme heat for those in

:58:20. > :58:25.the south-east of the country, temperatures peaking short of 35

:58:26. > :58:30.degrees. Severe storms across parts of Europe, Central Europe in

:58:31. > :58:34.particular. A stormy night last night. For us, it is hitting the

:58:35. > :58:37.reset button for summer. Temperatures back closer to where

:58:38. > :58:42.they should be for this time of year. It has been a lovely start for

:58:43. > :58:48.one or two. The sun is still there. The scene in Hackney earlier, clear

:58:49. > :58:52.blue skies. But for others, more typical of summer, we have seen rain

:58:53. > :58:57.falling. In Southport and Blackpool, we have seen scenes more like this.

:58:58. > :59:01.Raining heavily at the moment. The rain is coming courtesy of a

:59:02. > :59:05.riverfront introducing fresh air towards the UK for this weekend.

:59:06. > :59:11.Even fresher than this morning. This zone of cloud, right across the

:59:12. > :59:14.central swathe of the UK, top and tail, sunshine to start the day.

:59:15. > :59:19.Northern Scotland not too bad, southern part of England. Cloud but

:59:20. > :59:22.sunshine breaking through. These areas dry and bright. The heaviest

:59:23. > :59:26.rain is in north-west England, pushing into western parts of Wales

:59:27. > :59:30.into the afternoon. Whilst we have patchy rain and drizzle across parts

:59:31. > :59:34.of southern Scotland and Northern Ireland, that will be limited to the

:59:35. > :59:38.far south east of Northern Ireland by the end of the afternoon. Dry and

:59:39. > :59:42.sunny spells. Present with a breeze, East Scotland could hit 20 Celsius

:59:43. > :59:48.this afternoon. But it stays grey, parts of northern England, to be

:59:49. > :59:51.high ground, and Cheshire, a few breaks in cloud and sunshine. Rain

:59:52. > :59:56.and drizzle at times, particularly in the Pennines. Wet across western

:59:57. > :00:01.Wales, eastern Wales should stay dry. South east midlands into East

:00:02. > :00:05.Anglia, cloud with sunshine, temperatures in the low 20s. We

:00:06. > :00:09.could get that at Glastonbury today. Most of the time, drive this

:00:10. > :00:13.weekend, but on Saturday this is when we could see a little bit of

:00:14. > :00:19.rain. It wouldn't be Glastonbury without this forecast. The rain

:00:20. > :00:22.edging southwards, fairly fragmented, producing damp

:00:23. > :00:26.conditions towards the Southwest approaches, including Glastonbury.

:00:27. > :00:30.Monkey tonight across southern areas, fresher in the North with

:00:31. > :00:34.clearer skies, but turning increasingly windy. That is another

:00:35. > :00:39.story this weekend. Unseasonably windy weather of Scotland. Severe

:00:40. > :00:43.gales with the low pressure, gale force winds through the central belt

:00:44. > :00:46.of Scotland. Sunshine and showers here, Northern Ireland. Northern

:00:47. > :00:53.England will brighten up after a cloudy and damp start. We could see

:00:54. > :00:57.showers across the South, including a damp start a customary.

:00:58. > :01:02.Temperatures in the low 20s in the south-east. Elsewhere, dropping

:01:03. > :01:06.down, lower for this time of year. The breeze will be with us on

:01:07. > :01:08.Sunday, north-east in particular. Sunday, one or two showers in the

:01:09. > :01:14.west, Central and eastern areas will be dry. Enjoy your weekend.

:01:15. > :01:26.It's Friday at 10am. Good morning. And you plan to allow about 3

:01:27. > :01:29.million EU citizens living in the UK to stay here after Brexit.

:01:30. > :01:35.I really love my job, I love my family.

:01:36. > :01:38.I have my financial commitments, and I feel like I'm

:01:39. > :01:39.stuck here on the will of Theresa May.

:01:40. > :01:47.I want to give those EU citizens in the UK certainty about the future of

:01:48. > :01:52.their lives and I also want to see that certainty given to UK citizens

:01:53. > :01:56.living in the European Union. We will have the latest reaction from

:01:57. > :02:01.Westminster and Brussels. We will be live at Scotland Yard as the police

:02:02. > :02:04.give more details about the fire at Grenfell Tower in London. And we

:02:05. > :02:05.will talk to a panel of experts about how tenants in other blocks

:02:06. > :02:08.can be kept safe. When mum goes to prison -

:02:09. > :02:11.we've been given rare access inside of one of America's prisons

:02:12. > :02:14.taking part in a pioneering scheme to give locked-up women the support

:02:15. > :02:22.to see their children. Here's Annita McVeigh

:02:23. > :02:27.in the BBC Newsroom Britain's preliminary offer

:02:28. > :02:35.on the rights of EU citizens in the UK after Brexit has been

:02:36. > :02:38.described as insufficient by the president of the European

:02:39. > :02:42.Commission. The prime minister has said that

:02:43. > :02:48.no-one in the UK lawfully would be forced to leave on the day

:02:49. > :02:51.of Brexit, but, in return, the EU would have to offer

:02:52. > :02:53.a comparable deal for British I want to reassure all those

:02:54. > :02:58.EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

:02:59. > :03:01.in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

:03:02. > :03:04.families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

:03:05. > :03:11.the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

:03:12. > :03:14.that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

:03:15. > :03:20.of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

:03:21. > :03:23.but we've made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

:03:24. > :03:27.that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens

:03:28. > :03:29.living in the United Kingdom The government says samples

:03:30. > :03:42.of cladding from 11 high-rise buildings in England have been found

:03:43. > :03:44.to be combustible. Safety checks have been carried out

:03:45. > :03:53.because of the Grenfell Tower fire. The The buildings across eight

:03:54. > :03:55.council areas including Plymouth, Manchester and Camden in north

:03:56. > :04:01.London where cladding is being Premier Inn has also revealed the

:04:02. > :04:04.cladding on three of its hotels doesn't meet government guidance.

:04:05. > :04:06.A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales

:04:07. > :04:09.would face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale

:04:10. > :04:10.outbreaks of disorder because of budget cuts.

:04:11. > :04:12.The Chief Constable of the West Midlands, Dave Thompson,

:04:13. > :04:14.said neighbourhood street patrols would disappear unless there

:04:15. > :04:23.The government said it will not rush into the leasing additional money.

:04:24. > :04:26.Virgin Media has told 800,000 customers to change their passwords

:04:27. > :04:32.An investigation by Which? found that hackers could access

:04:33. > :04:34.the provider's Super Hub 2 router, allowing access

:04:35. > :04:39.Virgin Media said the risk was small but advised customers using default

:04:40. > :04:43.network and router passwords to update them immediately.

:04:44. > :04:44.Performances begin on the main stages at

:04:45. > :04:55.Radiohead lead the line-up exactly 20 years after their first headline

:04:56. > :04:56.appearance that also includes the veteran American singer,

:04:57. > :05:00.There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

:05:01. > :05:03.with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

:05:04. > :05:06.by the recent tragedies in London and Manchester.

:05:07. > :05:13.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30.

:05:14. > :05:21.English football is enjoying a run of relative success

:05:22. > :05:23.after the England U21s reached the semifinals of the

:05:24. > :05:32.It follows the U20s victory at the World Cup and then the U17s

:05:33. > :05:34.who made the final of the Euros back in May.

:05:35. > :05:37.Not often you have success right across the board all at once,

:05:38. > :05:40.but fair to say, it's all going well for the Young Lions.

:05:41. > :05:42.The Under 21s reached the last four of the Euros,

:05:43. > :05:45.after a pretty comfortable win over the hosts Poland.

:05:46. > :05:47.Demarai Gray hit a cracking opener, with Jacob Murphy and Lewis Baker,

:05:48. > :05:51.To think it's only two weeks since the Under

:05:52. > :05:55.We're definitely getting stronger, you know?

:05:56. > :05:57.The higher we get, the more important the games are.

:05:58. > :06:00.The boys have been in important games before.

:06:01. > :06:02.We had the Toulon Tournament where we won.

:06:03. > :06:05.We are used to playing in important matches.

:06:06. > :06:08.It's fantastic for us, we are through to the semis now

:06:09. > :06:18.A lot of rugby at the moment - away from the British and irish

:06:19. > :06:21.Lions in New Zealand - Wales beat Samoa in their final tour

:06:22. > :06:24.match, to make it two wins out of two on their summer tour.

:06:25. > :06:27.Several young players have been given the chance to impress.

:06:28. > :06:33.22-year-old Steff Evans scored two tries in the 19-17 win.

:06:34. > :06:35.With several other key players away with the Lions,

:06:36. > :06:39.It was a frustrating day for Johanna Konta

:06:40. > :06:42.at the Aegon Classic in Birmingham, where she lost in straight

:06:43. > :06:45.sets to CoCo Vanderweghe in the second round.

:06:46. > :06:50.She'll now play at Eastbourne - the last event before Wimbledon.

:06:51. > :06:53.And cricket is saying farwell to a great of broadcasting.

:06:54. > :07:02.Henry Blofeld is hanging up his mic after 45 years.

:07:03. > :07:05.And not only is it his voice listeners of Test Match Special

:07:06. > :07:07.will miss, but his ability to set a scene wherever he may

:07:08. > :07:12.Blowers, as he is known, will retire at the end of the summer,

:07:13. > :07:15.And here's a taste of what you'll be missing.

:07:16. > :07:22.None of our seagulls today, they always gorged themselves on worms

:07:23. > :07:25.yesterday and for breakfast this morning. One of them over there is

:07:26. > :07:29.looking rather top-heavy. I want to tell you about a moment of stark

:07:30. > :07:33.ingratitude. I was walking home last night and a great lot of seagulls

:07:34. > :07:37.were eating on the road. A car disturbed them, they flew up and

:07:38. > :07:42.over me and they deposited on me... I thought I was in a hailstorm. You

:07:43. > :07:57.almost indecently brown, have you been on a sunbed? How is your

:07:58. > :08:04.Spanish coming on? Si! LAUGHTER A lot of those clips are available

:08:05. > :08:10.to watch on the five live website. A special man and a special occasion

:08:11. > :08:15.when he retires. I'm in great company. I was touring around the

:08:16. > :08:20.country and was in Aberdeen ahead of the general election and a seagull

:08:21. > :08:22.deposited on my chin. I feel better, in good company, if it happens to

:08:23. > :08:27.Henry as well. It might be hard to believe

:08:28. > :08:29.with everything that's happened recently, but tomorrow marks just

:08:30. > :08:37.one year since the UK Theresa May has given more details

:08:38. > :08:42.on the rights of EU citizens living in the UK after Brexit. Any EU

:08:43. > :08:47.citizen who has been here five years or more will be allowed to stay.

:08:48. > :08:51.They will be allowed access to education, health care and other

:08:52. > :08:56.benefits. Mrs May told other leaders the offer only applied if the EU

:08:57. > :09:00.offered a similar deal to British expats. It's thought around 3

:09:01. > :09:04.million EU citizens living in Britain would be affected and the

:09:05. > :09:07.offer has been described as insufficient by the leader of the

:09:08. > :09:10.European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker. German Chancellor Angela

:09:11. > :09:16.Merkel described it as a good start. In a moment we will speak to Kevin

:09:17. > :09:20.Connelly in Brussels. First our political correspondent Iain Watson

:09:21. > :09:24.is in Westminster. What has the Prime Minister said?

:09:25. > :09:31.The Prime Minister has said it's a generous and fair offer, because

:09:32. > :09:35.it's guaranteeing what would be called settled status to EU citizens

:09:36. > :09:40.who are already in the UK at the moment. After five years they would

:09:41. > :09:44.get the same rights as British citizens to welfare, pensions and

:09:45. > :09:48.education. There would also be a two-year grace period, so if people

:09:49. > :09:53.are coming here between now and Brexit in 2019, they could come here

:09:54. > :09:55.and build up to their five years and get the full entitlement

:09:56. > :10:01.subsequently. There are some sticking points. This is entirely

:10:02. > :10:06.dependent on getting a reciprocal offer from the EU and that isn't

:10:07. > :10:12.there yet. Theresa May offering reassurance to EU citizens, but many

:10:13. > :10:15.don't feel too reassured at the moment because it's yet to be

:10:16. > :10:18.negotiated. The second sticking point is what will happen to

:10:19. > :10:23.people's families? Will they get the same rights as people coming here?

:10:24. > :10:27.And the cut-off date of when you are allowed to come here and build-up to

:10:28. > :10:32.your five years, that is not clear yet. It could be when Article 50 was

:10:33. > :10:39.triggered in March this year, or it could be when we leave the EU in

:10:40. > :10:43.2019. Both Labour and the Liberal Democrats say this is too little,

:10:44. > :10:48.too late and what's Theresa May should offer is unilateral rights to

:10:49. > :10:51.EU citizens, not depending on reciprocal rights at all. They

:10:52. > :10:52.should still get the full rights they have currently under freedom of

:10:53. > :11:01.movement rules. We can head from Westminster to

:11:02. > :11:05.Brussels to speak to Kevin Connelly. How has this been received in

:11:06. > :11:10.Brussels? It's important to say that this is a per little gesture from

:11:11. > :11:14.Theresa May designs to set the tone of the debate and show Britain is

:11:15. > :11:18.taking a positive view of the Brexit process and isn't trying to exclude

:11:19. > :11:22.anybody or make the lives of ordinary people more uncomfortable

:11:23. > :11:28.or anxious. But the European Union response, the way politicians talk

:11:29. > :11:34.about things here, isn't to respond to that big politics, if you like,

:11:35. > :11:39.it's to see it as a very bureaucratic and legalistic process

:11:40. > :11:42.of negotiation. One European leader from the Netherlands said he thought

:11:43. > :11:47.the proposal left thousands of questions to be answered. It was a

:11:48. > :11:52.horrifying prospect for the British negotiators who will have to sit

:11:53. > :11:56.down and answer all those questions. One of the problems is, if you give

:11:57. > :12:01.people rights, you have to have a legal system to enforce those

:12:02. > :12:04.rights. A big row coming up here and something we will talk about again

:12:05. > :12:08.in the future is what court system you use. The UK says British courts

:12:09. > :12:12.are excellent and you can use them to enforce your rights. The European

:12:13. > :12:19.Union wants that to be the business of the European Court of Justice.

:12:20. > :12:22.Theresa May's government has said the involvement of the European

:12:23. > :12:27.Court of Justice in British affairs is a red line. Plenty to disagree

:12:28. > :12:30.and talk about. Kevin Connelly in Brussels.

:12:31. > :12:33.It might be hard to believe with everything that's happened

:12:34. > :12:35.recently, but tomorrow marks just one year since the UK

:12:36. > :12:46.The British people have spoken and the answer is, we're out.

:12:47. > :12:52.I love this country, and I feel honoured to have served it.

:12:53. > :12:55.And I will do everything I can in future to help this

:12:56. > :13:11.HE HUMS, "DO-DO-DO-DO. RIGHT."

:13:12. > :13:13.I couldn't possibly achieve more than we managed

:13:14. > :13:16.to get in that referendum, and so I feel it's right that

:13:17. > :13:20.I have just been to Buckingham Palace, where Her Majesty The Queen

:13:21. > :13:25.has asked me to form a new Government, and I accepted.

:13:26. > :13:36.As far as I'm concerned, let's wipe that slate clean

:13:37. > :13:40.from today and get on with the work we've got to do as a party together.

:13:41. > :13:44.If you think for one single second that I am not serious about doing

:13:45. > :13:56.what it takes to protect Scotland's interests, then think again.

:13:57. > :14:02.This is an historic moment from which there can

:14:03. > :14:14.Now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee certainty

:14:15. > :14:17.and stability in the years ahead is to hold this election

:14:18. > :14:24.and seek your support for the decisions I must take.

:14:25. > :14:28.It will be a choice between strong and stable leadership

:14:29. > :14:31.in the national interest, with me as your Prime Minister,

:14:32. > :14:33.or weak and unstable coalition Government,

:14:34. > :14:40.Let us resolve to do things differently -

:14:41. > :14:44.invest in education, invest in health, invest in housing,

:14:45. > :14:52.invest in jobs, invest in a future for all of us.

:14:53. > :14:54.And what we're saying is the Conservatives

:14:55. > :15:03.Note they don't have an overall majority at this stage.

:15:04. > :15:08.Young people and old people all came together yesterday,

:15:09. > :15:11.very high turnout, huge increase in the Labour vote, and they did it

:15:12. > :15:14.because they want to see things done differently,

:15:15. > :15:24.My Government's priority is to secure the best possible deal

:15:25. > :15:57.as the country leaves the European Union.

:15:58. > :16:01.Those involved in the campaigns have had time to reflect on what they did

:16:02. > :16:09.right, and what they did wrong. Will Straw campaigned for the UK

:16:10. > :16:12.to remain in the EU - he was the executive director

:16:13. > :16:14.of the campaign group And on the other side

:16:15. > :16:18.of the fence, Richard Tice was the co-founder of Leave.EU,

:16:19. > :16:21.one of two major groups that campaigned for Britain

:16:22. > :16:25.to leave the European Union. What had he made of the last year?

:16:26. > :16:29.It has certainly been full of surprises with the general election

:16:30. > :16:33.a few weeks ago. The referendum a year ago had a clear result, and

:16:34. > :16:38.that meant we were going to leave the European Union. The big question

:16:39. > :16:42.was, what did that mean? Theresa May was over pay, saying Brexit means

:16:43. > :16:45.Brexit. She then put her version of Brexit to the British people in the

:16:46. > :16:50.general election, and they rejected it. So we are back in a period where

:16:51. > :16:55.we are not sure what our Brexit strategy looks like. Of course, a

:16:56. > :17:00.number of people now say that we need to take a different approach to

:17:01. > :17:03.quite the extreme view of Brexit Theresa May was suggesting. We need

:17:04. > :17:07.to make sure we don't end up with no deal, which was one of the things

:17:08. > :17:10.she said she would be prepared to countenance if there wasn't a deal

:17:11. > :17:16.on the table. No deal better than a bad deal. It is dead in the water

:17:17. > :17:20.now. Secondly, there are concerns about the border with Ireland, and

:17:21. > :17:26.that means that Parliament will probably stay in the customs union.

:17:27. > :17:30.The Mayor of London saying yesterday that to avoid Bridgen's economy

:17:31. > :17:34.coming off a cliff edge, we have do have a transition deal at the end of

:17:35. > :17:40.the talks in 2019. That might mean staying in the single market. Let's

:17:41. > :17:43.be clear, over 80% of the electorate in the general election voted to

:17:44. > :17:46.leave the customs union and to leave the single market, because that is

:17:47. > :17:50.what both manifestos said. The general election was about domestic

:17:51. > :17:53.issues, as Jeremy Corbyn did very well and the Tories didn't do very

:17:54. > :18:03.well. The whole point about the process is it is taking too long. It

:18:04. > :18:05.should have been sorted within the first month or two months after the

:18:06. > :18:11.referendum. Why has it taken too long? The Conservative government

:18:12. > :18:14.was willing to make the offer, which they making today, but the EU said

:18:15. > :18:19.they are not ready to start negotiations. We should have shame

:18:20. > :18:25.them into it. Could Theresa May have said anyway? Not in negotiations,

:18:26. > :18:30.but this is what we will do? I said on question Time last met them, that

:18:31. > :18:34.is what you should have done. It is taking too long. The whole process

:18:35. > :18:38.from here is still taking too long. In business, if we were negotiating

:18:39. > :18:43.this, you would sit down, greeted in a month and put it into lawyers's

:18:44. > :18:47.hands. They are spending a week negotiating and three weeks going

:18:48. > :18:49.back and talking to the media and their respective parties, that is

:18:50. > :18:56.not the way to give certainty for both sides. Richard and I agree

:18:57. > :18:59.disagree on lots of side of the debate, but we agree that it is

:19:00. > :19:06.outrageous for Theresa May to have waited a year to make the offer to 3

:19:07. > :19:09.million people. These are human beings, these people's partners,

:19:10. > :19:13.husbands and wives, colleagues. They have been in limbo for the last

:19:14. > :19:16.year. I actually think, as Richard says, we should have put the EU

:19:17. > :19:20.under pressure and said, we are going to unilaterally offer rights

:19:21. > :19:24.to these people and say you can stay in the country. We expect the EU to

:19:25. > :19:28.do the same for other people, for Brits living abroad, rather than

:19:29. > :19:33.people being treated as pawns in HS much. Because Theresa May has a

:19:34. > :19:38.minority government, she hasn't got a huge landslide which she hoped she

:19:39. > :19:43.would have to go to the EU negotiations and say she had a

:19:44. > :19:46.mandate. Does it mean Britain has a much weaker position at the

:19:47. > :19:50.negotiating table? Theoretically, no. If parliamentarians stick to

:19:51. > :19:54.what is said in the manifestos, because both committed to leaving

:19:55. > :19:58.the cigar market and the customs union, the reality is, if you want

:19:59. > :20:02.to control your laws and borders, and trade, you had to leave those

:20:03. > :20:05.things. I don't think people are interested in the technicalities,

:20:06. > :20:11.they want a proper British Brexit, they don't want a fudge. If you go

:20:12. > :20:14.into a negotiation and are prepared to walk away, as David Cameron found

:20:15. > :20:19.when he tried 18 months ago, you end up with a bad deal. You have to be

:20:20. > :20:25.prepared to walk away. The right way to negotiate is to say, we either

:20:26. > :20:30.agree by next March, Q1 2018, or we part as friends and plan for going

:20:31. > :20:33.into WTO rules, because that is the alternative option. Are we in a

:20:34. > :20:39.weaker position because of the minority government? Only while our

:20:40. > :20:42.position is unclear, but Richard is not right about the manifestos. He

:20:43. > :20:45.is right that the Conservative manifesto said we should leave the

:20:46. > :20:49.single market and customs union, which was rejected by the British

:20:50. > :20:58.public. The Labour manifesto said to get access. But... The reality now

:20:59. > :21:04.is, the important thing is the election produced a hung parliament,

:21:05. > :21:08.and you have the Labour Party saying it wants an economy first, jobs

:21:09. > :21:17.first Brexit. You have the Chancellor of the Exchequer... The

:21:18. > :21:21.WTO rules would mean large tariffs for aspects of the economy. What we

:21:22. > :21:24.have to do is ensure the deal at the end is at least as good as what we

:21:25. > :21:28.have at the moment and we don't have a cliff edge in 2019, which is why I

:21:29. > :21:30.think sensible people like Sadiq Khan are saying that have a

:21:31. > :21:40.transitional arrangement to stay in the single market... I don't think

:21:41. > :21:44.ordinary... We are out of time, but the Green room is through there, so

:21:45. > :21:52.continue, over there. Thank you both.

:21:53. > :21:55.There are two hundred thousand women in America's prisons.

:21:56. > :21:57.That's one third of the world's incarcerated women.

:21:58. > :22:01.About two in three of these women are mothers and as many as one

:22:02. > :22:09.Following the Grenfell tragedy, it's emerged a number of high rise

:22:10. > :22:11.buildings are covered in the same cladding that experts say

:22:12. > :22:14.contributed to the ferocious speed at which last week's fire spread.

:22:15. > :22:17.Tests are now being carried out on 600 high rise

:22:18. > :22:21.The Department for Communities and Local Government

:22:22. > :22:23.is co-ordinating the tests, which can take place

:22:24. > :22:30.Let's speak now to Tony Bird who worked for Kensington

:22:31. > :22:34.and Chelsea Council's housing department when the tenants

:22:35. > :22:38.management organisation that managed Grenfell Tower was established,

:22:39. > :22:40.Russell Curtis, who's a London architect who often

:22:41. > :22:43.works with local authorities and on social housing

:22:44. > :22:45.Jane Philpott, deputy assistant commissioner,

:22:46. > :22:51.And Conservative MP Sir David Amess, the chairman of the all-party fire

:22:52. > :22:57.safety and rescue group who joins us from Chelmsford.

:22:58. > :23:05.We are also going to be talking and bringing you in the next few minutes

:23:06. > :23:08.a live police press conference from New Scotland Yard. The microphones

:23:09. > :23:12.are set up. Nobody there at the moment, but they will do a press

:23:13. > :23:14.conference, bringing us the latest on the grand hellfire. Thank you for

:23:15. > :23:21.coming in. Tony, you worked as a housing

:23:22. > :23:27.opposite in the 1970s, you were there involved in it. What are your

:23:28. > :23:32.memories of Grenfell. I work for a couple of years as part of the

:23:33. > :23:37.lettings team at Kensington and Chelsea, and we let homes at

:23:38. > :23:44.Grenville tower. It wasn't the most popular of blocks, because it was a

:23:45. > :23:48.tower block -- Grenfell Tower. In 1995, however, I worked as part of

:23:49. > :23:50.an independent team that helped set up the tenant management

:23:51. > :23:55.organisation. I would like to correct one thing, it is widespread

:23:56. > :24:00.in the media that it was an outsourced thing by the council. It

:24:01. > :24:05.wasn't, it was set up because the tenants served a notice on the

:24:06. > :24:09.council. They had a legal right to set up a tenant management

:24:10. > :24:13.organisation, and I was responsible for putting together their film and

:24:14. > :24:20.their mantra when they set it up, "We can do it better." They believe

:24:21. > :24:24.they took over the management because they could do a better job

:24:25. > :24:30.the tenants, and they did do for a long time. Russell, if you look at

:24:31. > :24:34.Grenfell, in your view, is this an issue purely about cladding, or is

:24:35. > :24:42.it more so? So many people have got in touch to say we don't have fire

:24:43. > :24:46.extinctions, fire alarms, is it about cladding or is it a wider

:24:47. > :24:50.issue? You are absolutely right, it is a much wider issue. The cladding

:24:51. > :24:56.clearly in this case seems to have been a contributing factor, but

:24:57. > :25:00.buildings are very complicated things. The behaviour of fires

:25:01. > :25:04.within buildings is very corrugated, so I think it is still too early to

:25:05. > :25:09.point the finger at anyone particular element of the building.

:25:10. > :25:16.I think there are much wider issues around how we achieve building

:25:17. > :25:18.refurbishments like this, in terms of the processors, in terms of

:25:19. > :25:25.regulations, which we need to address the coming years. How much

:25:26. > :25:28.is the Fire Brigade consulted? If there is a fire wherever else, and

:25:29. > :25:33.they are looking at sticking cladding on or what ever, do they

:25:34. > :25:35.speak to the Fire Brigade and get your view? The Fire Brigade is

:25:36. > :25:46.certainly in touch with local authorities. It is a local authority

:25:47. > :25:51.'s want ability in terms of safety, -- despondency. We have officers go

:25:52. > :25:56.out and ensure the firefighting facilities and fire safety is

:25:57. > :25:59.up-to-date. Presumably, though, you would want to see sprinklers in

:26:00. > :26:02.every building, you would want to see fire extinguishers, because that

:26:03. > :26:07.means that your men and women are less likely to have to go into

:26:08. > :26:10.events like rain fell tower. Absolutely. We would love to see

:26:11. > :26:18.spankers in every building -- Grenfell Tower. Whether it is

:26:19. > :26:29.extinguishers or the blockage of fire exits. The part that can be

:26:30. > :26:37.played is to ensure walkways are clear, that there aren't piles of

:26:38. > :26:44.rubbish or scooters in the way. The means to get out in the event of a

:26:45. > :26:49.fire, they need to speak to the building owner, they shouldn't have

:26:50. > :26:52.fire doors which open, they are there to hold back the fire. I would

:26:53. > :26:57.urge that they get out and look at their buildings. We have had an

:26:58. > :27:01.e-mail from Peter, I live in a block in Trafford. We have had a cursory

:27:02. > :27:10.letter saying our block isn't clad like the Grenfell Tower. There are

:27:11. > :27:14.no excuses, no alarm I know of, and a single access their case into a

:27:15. > :27:18.totally flammable entrance hall built on the outside, and we have

:27:19. > :27:24.been told nothing. We have heard so many stories. I want to bring in Sir

:27:25. > :27:27.David. You are chairman of the all-party fire safety and rescue

:27:28. > :27:35.group. How many times have we heard these comments from people in the

:27:36. > :27:38.last week since the Greenfeld disaster was that we know ministers

:27:39. > :27:41.from the Conservative Party were warned it was time to review safety

:27:42. > :27:48.regulations and nothing has happened. Very, very frustrating.

:27:49. > :27:51.The truth of the circumstances of this fire will come out in the

:27:52. > :28:00.public enquiry, but it has taken this disaster, on sprinklers and

:28:01. > :28:08.reviewing building regulations, and we have asked for action on both of

:28:09. > :28:12.those measures and it has taken this tragedy for our voice to be heard.

:28:13. > :28:16.When making recommendations in the past, what have you been told by the

:28:17. > :28:21.Housing Minister 's? For example, we know that Gavin Barwell, the former

:28:22. > :28:23.housing Mr, now cheese of -- chief of staff for Theresa May, has been

:28:24. > :28:34.criticised for not acting. I will not focus on one minister,

:28:35. > :28:41.because this goes back to the government between 1997-2010.

:28:42. > :28:45.Ministers are not experts on these issues, they depend on advice. What

:28:46. > :28:53.is crystal clear is ministers have been consistently given advice,

:28:54. > :28:56.which frankly has been wrong. I think the issue of sprinklers has

:28:57. > :28:59.been known for quite a long time there.

:29:00. > :29:07.2009, you have the lateral fire in southern. There were a lot of

:29:08. > :29:10.conferences there. Tenants who had had the sprinklers retrofitted from

:29:11. > :29:13.Sheffield, toured the country, to spread the gospel of how effective

:29:14. > :29:20.it was. It was also remarkably cheap. They told it was ?2000.

:29:21. > :29:24.Cheaper than cladding? It is different protection. Cladding is

:29:25. > :29:31.about installation with the materials. But sprinklers save

:29:32. > :29:35.lives. Seriously, if we talk about a lack of cash, is it more important

:29:36. > :29:40.to put cladding on the outside to keep a building warm, or save lives?

:29:41. > :29:44.Just to finish my point, if you put sprinklers in the building there, it

:29:45. > :29:49.is my view you can negotiate a very significantly lower insurance rate.

:29:50. > :29:54.So you make the savings by the cost of insuring the buildings, which are

:29:55. > :29:58.colossal, you can get a much lower rate if you have sprinklers in

:29:59. > :30:04.there. No one has ever died in a building that has sprinklers there.

:30:05. > :30:07.They put them into new Bill, but the retrofit once, they don't want to do

:30:08. > :30:14.it. It is about the culture of no regulation. Russell, can you pick up

:30:15. > :30:22.on that? There is a challenge around this, because tall buildings aren't

:30:23. > :30:29.inherently unsafe. I think one of the misconceptions is that it is

:30:30. > :30:34.either cladding or sprinklers, but actually, in the 1960s and 1970s, a

:30:35. > :30:37.block that is refurbished, if you are fundamentally changing the

:30:38. > :30:41.character of the building, and you are introducing new cladding around

:30:42. > :30:43.it, I would argue that that essentially changes the

:30:44. > :30:49.Confederation of the building to an extent where you do need to put

:30:50. > :30:53.riveting. The problem is, fires in tower blocks are not uncommon,

:30:54. > :31:00.actually. But it is the effect of those fires, which we need to look

:31:01. > :31:05.at. In 60s and 70s box that generally have a concrete or brick

:31:06. > :31:07.outer skin, they don't tend to spread from the flat, they are

:31:08. > :31:12.suppressed within the flat, they don't spread to other homes. In this

:31:13. > :31:15.case, the cladding appears to have had a contributing factor in the

:31:16. > :31:22.spread of that cladding from one small fire to a much wider extent.

:31:23. > :31:27.They need to be questions asked as to whether over wrapping a building

:31:28. > :31:28.in a new skin fundamentally alters the character and nature of the

:31:29. > :31:37.building. I don't know if you can answer this,

:31:38. > :31:41.but when you attend fires, have you seen a difference in the way fires

:31:42. > :31:45.have behaved on buildings that have this new style of cladding? It's

:31:46. > :31:51.important to remember the Grenfell firewall is unprecedented. I have

:31:52. > :31:58.certainly never, and nobody had ever seen a fire like that. We take it

:31:59. > :32:03.building by building on an individual basis. Our crews continue

:32:04. > :32:06.to be out inspecting premises all through the year and ensuring that

:32:07. > :32:11.all the facilities are for us so we can make sure we can make safe entry

:32:12. > :32:14.to the building and carry out our firefighting work, and make sure

:32:15. > :32:19.they are up-to-date and ready to be used. What would each of you say to

:32:20. > :32:23.people watching now who are living in tower blocks, where ever they

:32:24. > :32:27.are. Maybe they know they have the same cladding on a building that was

:32:28. > :32:32.on Grenfell. Maybe it's still being tested or maybe they have been told

:32:33. > :32:36.it's not the same. We heard earlier on in the programme, one woman

:32:37. > :32:40.living in a tower block in Camden, she hasn't slept since Grenfell. She

:32:41. > :32:44.can see the flames from her window and she has to put her kids to bed

:32:45. > :32:49.at night. What would you say to people in those tower blocks right

:32:50. > :32:54.now. I would like to reassure the public. It's important they

:32:55. > :32:58.understand, our policy hasn't changed. Predominantly you are safer

:32:59. > :33:03.to remain in your dwelling, within that flat and call us out. Tell the

:33:04. > :33:07.fire brigade where you are. The issue in regards to whether you

:33:08. > :33:11.should leave your building or you should stay, it comes down to

:33:12. > :33:15.whether fire is. If there is a fire in pinching on your dwelling, you

:33:16. > :33:18.will know because it is hot or smoky, then you want to make your

:33:19. > :33:23.way out. The best thing you can do is to make sure you know how to get

:33:24. > :33:27.out and your family know how to get out and you have a plan for that.

:33:28. > :33:37.Inside your building and in the flat, let's make sure everybody has

:33:38. > :33:40.a working smoke alarm. I think lots of local authorities are now taking

:33:41. > :33:45.action and that is to be applauded. I don't think we should panic. Be

:33:46. > :33:49.vigilant, but don't panic. Thank you for coming in today. It is now

:33:50. > :33:52.10:33am. With the news, here's Annita

:33:53. > :33:58.in the BBC Newsroom. The president of the European

:33:59. > :34:05.Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has said Theresa May's offered to extend

:34:06. > :34:08.the rights of EU citizens in the UK doesn't go far enough. She has

:34:09. > :34:17.offered to extend those citizens who have lived in the UK for five years.

:34:18. > :34:25.11 residential high-rise buildings in England have been found

:34:26. > :34:26.with cladding which raises safety concerns, during urgent

:34:27. > :34:29.safety tests carried out after the Grenfell Tower fire.

:34:30. > :34:31.The buildings are spread across eight local authority areas,

:34:32. > :34:33.including Camden in north London, where cladding is now being removed

:34:34. > :34:37.Premier Inn has also revealed that it's concerned that cladding

:34:38. > :34:44.on three of its hotels doesn't appear to meet government guidance.

:34:45. > :34:47.A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales

:34:48. > :34:49.would face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale

:34:50. > :34:50.outbreaks of disorder because of budget cuts.

:34:51. > :34:53.The Chief Constable of the West Midlands, Dave Thompson,

:34:54. > :34:55.said neighbourhood street patrols would disappear unless there

:34:56. > :35:04.The government said it will not rush into releasing additional money.

:35:05. > :35:09.People at Glastonbury can expect extra searches this year as security

:35:10. > :35:16.stepped up at the festival. A minute's silence this morning,

:35:17. > :35:18.to honour those affected by the recent tragedies

:35:19. > :35:23.in London and Manchester. That's a summary of the latest

:35:24. > :35:40.news, join me for BBC Newsroom Live England U21s reach the semifinals of

:35:41. > :35:43.the European Championships with a 3-0 victory over Poland tomorrow

:35:44. > :35:47.night. They haven't been this far in the competition since 2009.

:35:48. > :35:50.It follows the U20s victory at the World Cup and then the U17s

:35:51. > :35:55.who made the final of the Euros back in May.

:35:56. > :35:58.A lot of rugby at the moment - away from the British and irish

:35:59. > :36:01.Lions in New Zealand - Wales beat Samoa in their final tour

:36:02. > :36:04.match, to make it two wins out of two on their summer tour.

:36:05. > :36:08.22-year-old Steff Evans scored two tries in the 19-17 win.

:36:09. > :36:12.Practice is under way ahead of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix. It is only

:36:13. > :36:22.the second year of the Grand Prix. And cricket is saying farwell

:36:23. > :36:24.to a great of broadcasting. Henry Blofeld is hanging

:36:25. > :36:26.up his mic after 45 years. And not only is it his voice

:36:27. > :36:29.listeners of Test Match Special will miss, but his ability to set

:36:30. > :36:32.a scene wherever he may Blowers, as he is known, will retire

:36:33. > :36:43.at the end of the summer, Some breaking news coming from NHS

:36:44. > :36:47.England. The latest figures on people still receiving hospital

:36:48. > :36:52.treatment after the Grenfell Tower fire, a total of nine people in

:36:53. > :36:57.hospital and we are told three are in critical care. Kings College

:36:58. > :37:00.Hospital has five patients with two in critical care. Chelsea and

:37:01. > :37:06.Westminster has two patients, the Royal free Hospital one, in critical

:37:07. > :37:09.care, and St Mary's Hospital also has one patient. That the

:37:10. > :37:13.information we are getting on the number of people still in hospital a

:37:14. > :37:16.week on from the fire in Grenfell Tower. We also expecting a police

:37:17. > :37:22.press conference in the next minutes. You can see all the

:37:23. > :37:25.microphones are trained and waiting for somebody to come out to give an

:37:26. > :37:30.update on the Grenfell Tower investigation. As soon as they begin

:37:31. > :37:35.speaking we will head straight to new Scotland Yard. We had an e-mail

:37:36. > :37:40.from Kim who says she lives in a block that eight floors high. There

:37:41. > :37:44.are no sprinklers, just one exit and no fire doors in communal areas. Our

:37:45. > :37:48.sister blog had a fire four years ago in the electrical cupboard and

:37:49. > :37:52.they couldn't get out and had to go back to their flats and wait for the

:37:53. > :37:56.firemen. We had a letter put through our block saying that we are now

:37:57. > :37:58.safe and they had a safety check in the last nine years. Keep your

:37:59. > :38:02.communication coming in. An NHS trust has been fined

:38:03. > :38:04.?300,000 after a young patient fell to his death

:38:05. > :38:07.from an industrial chimney. 20-year-old Adam Withers,

:38:08. > :38:11.who suffered from an acute psychotic illness, died after gaining access

:38:12. > :38:13.to a chimney at Epsom Hospital The health trust, Surrey

:38:14. > :38:18.and Borders Partnership, admitted health and safety breaches

:38:19. > :38:23.at a previous hearing. An inquest found it had failed

:38:24. > :38:27.to reassess Mr Withers' risk levels. His family spoke to our social

:38:28. > :38:38.affairs correspondent, They witnessed the fall. We will

:38:39. > :38:41.come back to that story in a couple of minutes because we can cross to

:38:42. > :38:47.new Scotland Yard where we are expecting that press conference to

:38:48. > :38:52.take place. We are hearing that nine people are still in hospital one we

:38:53. > :38:58.gone from the Grenfell Tower fire. Three people still in critical care.

:38:59. > :39:01.We are expecting police to come out and update us in the next few

:39:02. > :39:07.minutes. We thought they would come out right now but the people coming

:39:08. > :39:13.out of the building, they don't look like the officials coming out to

:39:14. > :39:18.address the media. We know at least 79 people died in that fire, and the

:39:19. > :39:23.discussion we had a few moments ago with a member of the Fire Brigade,

:39:24. > :39:27.they said very much that the view was that you should remain in your

:39:28. > :39:31.flat if there is a fire because you are much safer there than if you

:39:32. > :39:37.come out. Many people getting in touch with us throughout the morning

:39:38. > :39:41.and sending comments, telling us about their experiences. So many

:39:42. > :39:45.people concerned that whether or not they have cladding that is similar

:39:46. > :39:48.to Grenfell Tower, they still say they have no fire extinguishers or

:39:49. > :39:57.sprinklers, and many don't feel they have adequate protection. We have

:39:58. > :40:01.something coming in from our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds

:40:02. > :40:06.while we wait for the press conference to begin a new Scotland

:40:07. > :40:10.Yard. Police say the insulation and cladding fitted to Grenfell Tower

:40:11. > :40:15.has failed a small-scale test which was carried out by the Metropolitan

:40:16. > :40:19.Police to ensure public safety. The Met will investigate whether the law

:40:20. > :40:23.was broken by fitting both to the outside of the tower. Detectives

:40:24. > :40:26.have also confirmed that the fire started within a Hotpoint fridge

:40:27. > :40:36.freezer. Manufacturers have been warned. We don't want there to be

:40:37. > :40:40.victims of the tragedy we don't know about, say detectives. If people

:40:41. > :40:48.were not here legally, it doesn't matter. They just want to know who

:40:49. > :40:52.was in a tower. Police also telling us no extra people have shown is

:40:53. > :40:56.missing. Nine people have been confirmed as dead and formally

:40:57. > :41:01.identified, but 79 are missing and they are now sadly assumed to have

:41:02. > :41:09.died. The police say they need public help to ensure that none of

:41:10. > :41:11.the victims have been missed. Detective Chief Superintendent Fiona

:41:12. > :41:15.McCormack has said the priority is to understand who was in Grenfell

:41:16. > :41:19.Tower. They are not interested in why somebody was there, whether they

:41:20. > :41:25.were there legally or not, they just want to get to the bottom of who was

:41:26. > :41:29.there. Police have said a huge team of 250 specialist investigators are

:41:30. > :41:34.working hard on all aspects of the investigation and the response of

:41:35. > :41:38.the emergency services. Police have confirmed the fire was started

:41:39. > :41:45.deliberately. We can cross over live to new Scotland Yard. We are now

:41:46. > :41:51.over a week into our investigation of the catastrophic fire at Grenfell

:41:52. > :41:55.Tower. I can confirm that the numbers we have of presumed dead,

:41:56. > :42:05.confirmed dead or missing still remains at 79, with nine people

:42:06. > :42:10.being formally identified as dead. I know there is a fear that number is

:42:11. > :42:16.a lot higher, and I do not want any hidden victims of this tragedy.

:42:17. > :42:22.Through our family liaison officers and local council networks, we

:42:23. > :42:26.prioritise in establishing exactly who was in Grenfell Tower that

:42:27. > :42:33.night. The Home Office has assured us that they will not use this

:42:34. > :42:37.tragedy to check people's immigration status, and neither will

:42:38. > :42:42.the police. I urge people now who know people were in that tower that

:42:43. > :42:53.night, either as a resident or people visiting, to phone the

:42:54. > :42:57.incident room on 08000324359 and let us know who those people are. This

:42:58. > :42:59.is one of the largest and most complexes investigation is the

:43:00. > :43:05.Metropolitan Police has ever undertaken. There are currently more

:43:06. > :43:11.than 250 specialist investigators working on all aspects of this

:43:12. > :43:15.investigation. It will establish how the fire started and this bead and

:43:16. > :43:21.spread that it took hold of the building. There are two points of

:43:22. > :43:25.priority for me. The speed that it did spread through the building, and

:43:26. > :43:31.also the internal safety aspects of the building. On the first point, we

:43:32. > :43:38.are examining with experts the aluminium cladding and the

:43:39. > :43:42.insulation behind the cladding, how the tiles were fixed to the

:43:43. > :43:46.building, and how it was installed. Preliminary tests on the

:43:47. > :43:51.installation samples collected from Grenfell Tower show that they

:43:52. > :43:56.combusted soon after the test started. The initial tests on the

:43:57. > :44:04.cladding tiles also failed the safety tests. Such are our safety

:44:05. > :44:08.concerns on the outcome of those tests, we have shared our data with

:44:09. > :44:14.the Department for Communities and Local Government, and we have been

:44:15. > :44:18.assured that communication data has been shared with every council. We

:44:19. > :44:22.are also concerned about the fridge freezer in this matter and we have

:44:23. > :44:28.been working with the Department of energy, business and industrial

:44:29. > :44:32.strategy, who are working with Hotpoint on the safety of that

:44:33. > :44:36.fridge. We know this fire was started deliberately. And we know

:44:37. > :44:41.that the fridge freezer in this matter has been never subject to a

:44:42. > :44:47.product recall before. Further tests are ongoing on the fridge. To

:44:48. > :44:52.elaborate on other parts of the investigation that we are doing so

:44:53. > :44:56.far, we have seized a huge amount of CCTV and we have received over 70

:44:57. > :45:02.images and moving footage following the appeals last week and I am

:45:03. > :45:07.grateful for everybody that has sent in their images will stop please

:45:08. > :45:10.continue to do that and let us know if you have any images or other

:45:11. > :45:21.information regarding this fire. 600 909 calls were made to the

:45:22. > :45:30.police and we have listened to every one of those to truly understand the

:45:31. > :45:35.fire. Some calls are over one hour long and are truly harrowing in

:45:36. > :45:38.their content. We have started to take statements from the occupants

:45:39. > :45:43.and visitors to Grenfell Tower that night, and this work will continue.

:45:44. > :45:50.In terms of seizing relevant material for a number of

:45:51. > :45:54.organisations, I can confirm that has already started and is under

:45:55. > :46:00.way. I want to be as transparent as I can in regards to this

:46:01. > :46:05.investigation, because at the same time I need to protect the integrity

:46:06. > :46:09.of my investigation. If I find out that individuals or organisations

:46:10. > :46:15.committed offences, then I must be in a position to positive without

:46:16. > :46:19.prejudice to any proceedings. Our search of Grenfell Tower to recover

:46:20. > :46:26.all those inside and return them to their loved ones continues. The

:46:27. > :46:30.working conditions at Grenfell Tower are difficult and distressing in

:46:31. > :46:33.many ways. I have personally spoken to the teams down there, and I

:46:34. > :46:39.totally understand their commitment in ensuring that we recover

:46:40. > :46:46.everything we can from that tower. And provided back to the families of

:46:47. > :46:50.those that died in that fire. Such is that devastation down at the

:46:51. > :46:56.scene, this may take at least until the end of the year. And there is a

:46:57. > :47:01.terrible reality that we may not find or identify all those that died

:47:02. > :47:04.during the fire. Which is why I appeal to people that know the

:47:05. > :47:10.people which are still missing, so please come forward. We will do

:47:11. > :47:14.everything we can with the utmost sensitivity and dignity. We want to

:47:15. > :47:21.provide the best possible answers for all those that have been so

:47:22. > :47:27.deeply affected by the tragedy. Also the corporation are you getting? At

:47:28. > :47:34.the moment, the corporation has been excellent, I have got to say.

:47:35. > :47:39.We have been provided information straightaway, and we have been able

:47:40. > :47:44.to send that on. We are not rating, we have seized

:47:45. > :47:48.occupants. The families of the survivors simply

:47:49. > :47:55.do not believe the figures released about the dead and missing, they

:47:56. > :47:58.think you are trying to hide the scale of it.

:47:59. > :48:03.The figures that we have got so far are the figures that have been

:48:04. > :48:07.accumulated to date by the amount of calls we have had, huge amount of

:48:08. > :48:10.calls we have had into us, along with the number of people in

:48:11. > :48:15.hospital and the number of people we have been able to confirm as dead.

:48:16. > :48:19.We are working through a number of other lists we have been given by

:48:20. > :48:25.various organisations to ensure that we have captured every figure we

:48:26. > :48:30.can. That is why this appeal today to yourselves, really, it is to

:48:31. > :48:35.please phone us. We are working with the Home Office to get the

:48:36. > :48:39.assurances that they will not use this to check immigration status,

:48:40. > :48:49.because I really want to ensure... There is stress and anger...

:48:50. > :48:51.Absolutely. They are the numbers, and this is painstaking work going

:48:52. > :49:06.on 24-7. We have been open I fear there are more, I do not know

:49:07. > :49:11.who they are at the moment, and that is why I am pleading with the public

:49:12. > :49:27.to please call us on our freephone number on this.

:49:28. > :49:40.As you can imagine, this is a huge fire, very, very intense heat, it is

:49:41. > :49:43.a dangerous scene, and so the investigation has to be done

:49:44. > :49:50.extremely sensitively. Working with the coroner, Doctor Fiona Wilcox on

:49:51. > :49:55.this, her and my absolute wish is that we cover everything that we can

:49:56. > :49:58.from that scene, and that we treat everybody there with integrity and

:49:59. > :50:09.dignity. So that will take a long period of time.

:50:10. > :50:11.The tests were done by the building research establishment, I am not a

:50:12. > :50:16.person that can answer that question.

:50:17. > :50:23.You said you don't have any interest in checking the immigration status,

:50:24. > :50:27.but there may be reasons are the people don't want to pull two,

:50:28. > :50:35.subletting, things either. Would you back an amnesty, would it make your

:50:36. > :50:40.job easier? I think that is too wide reaching at the moment. Minor things

:50:41. > :50:43.like subletting, we can talk to the council about, it would depend what

:50:44. > :50:52.the other offences are that you are talking about at the time.

:50:53. > :51:00.How many organisations have you seized documents on? We are looking

:51:01. > :51:04.at every criminal offence from manslaughter onwards. We are looking

:51:05. > :51:11.at every health and safety and fire safety offence, and we are reviewing

:51:12. > :51:13.every investigation, every company at the moment, involved in the

:51:14. > :51:20.building and refurbishment of Grenfell Tower.

:51:21. > :51:28.That is Detective Chief Superintendent taking questions from

:51:29. > :51:33.journalists outside New Scotland Yard. She said that currently the

:51:34. > :51:38.numbers of people who are dead and missing, presumed dead, is at 79,

:51:39. > :51:42.but they have real concerns that the number is a lot higher. The point

:51:43. > :51:47.she made was, we don't want to have any hidden victims in this. If you,

:51:48. > :51:50.for example, were in the building because of an immigration status

:51:51. > :51:54.that would put you at risk. Normally if there is a family worried about

:51:55. > :51:57.that, it doesn't matter for these purposes. They say they want to know

:51:58. > :52:02.the weather who was in there, they will not use the tragedy to check

:52:03. > :52:14.people's immigration status. If you do have information on people inside

:52:15. > :52:18.the tower 0800 0324539. 250 specialist officers there.

:52:19. > :52:22.Interesting she said they have carried out tests on the cladding

:52:23. > :52:25.used on the side of Grenfell Tower, saying it combusted soon after the

:52:26. > :52:34.test began. They are looking at the details of that. They said they

:52:35. > :52:37.received 600 emergency calls, and have listened to every one of them.

:52:38. > :52:41.Incredibly harrowing, saying it will take until the end of the year to

:52:42. > :52:49.complete the investigation. An NHS trust has been fined

:52:50. > :52:51.?300,000 after a young patient fell to his death

:52:52. > :52:53.from an industrial chimney. 20-year-old Adam Withers,

:52:54. > :52:56.who suffered from an acute psychotic illness, died after gaining access

:52:57. > :52:58.to a chimney at Epsom Hospital The health trust, Surrey

:52:59. > :53:01.and Borders Partnership, admitted health and safety breaches

:53:02. > :53:03.at a previous hearing. An inquest found it had failed

:53:04. > :53:07.to reassess Mr Withers' risk levels. His family spoke to our social

:53:08. > :53:11.affairs correspondent, And once he was up there

:53:12. > :53:22.he just kept looking at me. I kept saying to him,

:53:23. > :53:25."Adam, what are you doing? And he was walking to

:53:26. > :53:31.the left-hand side... And as he walked across,

:53:32. > :53:36.I followed him with my eyes. That's the first time I saw

:53:37. > :53:41.the chimney with the ladder, and the ladder just

:53:42. > :53:44.glinted in the sunlight. It really...

:53:45. > :53:47.SHE SOBS. I'm sorry.

:53:48. > :53:54.It just really gets your attention. I suddenly thought, no, no!

:53:55. > :53:57.When I looked back, Adam had gone. I can't stand here and watch

:53:58. > :54:06.because if he comes down safe, I will see him.

:54:07. > :54:08.But I can't see him fall. So I turned round

:54:09. > :54:11.and I walked away from him. And I'm sure he saw me,

:54:12. > :54:19.because he just stayed. And the last time I turned around,

:54:20. > :54:25.before you go round the corner when you can't see the chimney

:54:26. > :54:28.any more, he was just getting We just stood at the front

:54:29. > :54:35.of the hospital, no staff, nobody at all, we just stood

:54:36. > :54:39.and held each other. All of a sudden, you hear all these

:54:40. > :54:45.gasps, these horrible, horrible gasps, and then people

:54:46. > :54:48.just screaming and screaming. And then you get the nurses

:54:49. > :54:52.coming round the corner as pale as sheets,

:54:53. > :54:54.and you know they have I went to point to my mum,

:54:55. > :55:01.and that's when she collapsed to the floor and just screamed

:55:02. > :55:03.this horrible, horrible scream. That's how we found out he'd died,

:55:04. > :55:06.because she screamed, That's not how you

:55:07. > :55:22.find out somebody died. Difficult to watch that, Michael.

:55:23. > :55:27.How are Adam's mother and sister feeling now after the court case? It

:55:28. > :55:31.is a bittersweet moment for them, because clearly, they have pushed

:55:32. > :55:37.this case as far as they can go legally. The inquest found the trust

:55:38. > :55:41.had failed, they had contributed to Adam's death. The support of the

:55:42. > :55:45.Health and Safety Executive putting for this prosecution, this ?300,000

:55:46. > :55:51.fine. But optimally, acknowledged by the judge yesterday, delivering the

:55:52. > :55:55.verdict, talking about money and the law, this is how the law works. But

:55:56. > :56:02.ultimately, nothing can bring Adam back. That is clearly what the Adam

:56:03. > :56:06.would like. Just to go over how they found out about this. The way they

:56:07. > :56:12.were dealt with on a human level is just desperately sad. It is. It is

:56:13. > :56:20.very, very, very sad. The mother had gone to visit him, and he went out

:56:21. > :56:23.into the courtyard of the ward. He skipped onto a low-level building

:56:24. > :56:28.that gave him access to the ladder, the maintenance ladder, it was only

:56:29. > :56:31.meant to be there for a day, it had been there for several days. He had

:56:32. > :56:39.managed to go up. She couldn't watch all of it, so she couldn't watch

:56:40. > :56:42.what was happening. What she was living through was the reactions and

:56:43. > :56:48.screams of everybody else. People were saying to her, ultimately, that

:56:49. > :56:52.is not the way you want to find out your son has died. The trust were

:56:53. > :56:58.prosecuted because they knew that this ward he was on was a risk. This

:56:59. > :57:01.ward and the courtyard in particular, and getting onto the

:57:02. > :57:05.low-level building nearby, that was a well-known risk. They were told in

:57:06. > :57:10.2012 it was a danger, they were told in 2013, and they were told in 2014

:57:11. > :57:15.it was a danger. A couple of weeks before Adam died, he absconded using

:57:16. > :57:19.this particular route. There were repeated warnings. Despite the

:57:20. > :57:23.repeated warnings, the trust hadn't put in any anti-climb measures that

:57:24. > :57:27.could stop people getting up there. What has the health trust said in

:57:28. > :57:30.response to the fine? The trust have accepted the judgment and the fine.

:57:31. > :57:36.They have reiterated their apologies to the family, which contributed to

:57:37. > :57:39.Adam's death. They go on to say that unfortunately his death has had a

:57:40. > :57:43.profound impact on the trust, and they have put in safety measures,

:57:44. > :57:49.and in particular this unit at Epsom General Hospital in Surrey, which

:57:50. > :57:53.has now been closed down, the psychiatric patients have been moved

:57:54. > :57:57.to another site. Thank you for talking to us about that story.

:57:58. > :58:10.All of the details, the fallout and reaction to that police press

:58:11. > :58:16.conference about the Grenfell Tower fire. Stay tuned to BBC Newsroom

:58:17. > :58:18.Live and Anita will bring the details to you. Great to have your

:58:19. > :58:21.company today.