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:00:00. > :00:08.Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:09. > :00:14.Our top story today - a woman whose mother and sister

:00:15. > :00:16.were murdered by her step-father tells this programme why she wanted

:00:17. > :00:20.to revisit the scene of their deaths and how what happened will stay

:00:21. > :00:35.Even my mum was cowering, she was on her knees, Catherine. Can you

:00:36. > :00:36.imagine having to beg for your life? It's just barbaric.

:00:37. > :00:39.We'll bring you that full report in about 14 minutes.

:00:40. > :00:41.Also on the programme - claims that the government

:00:42. > :00:43.is dragging its feet over tougher sentences for people

:00:44. > :00:57.From a young age, we educate that knife crime is how bad it is and gun

:00:58. > :01:00.crime except but chemical attacks, substance attacks, are becoming more

:01:01. > :01:03.and more frequent now and there needs to be something done to stop

:01:04. > :01:08.it. The issue is being debated

:01:09. > :01:10.in parliament today - we'll speak to the MP leading

:01:11. > :01:13.the motion and to a victim of an attack who's been left

:01:14. > :01:16.with severe burns on her face And - the new Doctor Who is a woman

:01:17. > :01:26.- and predictably some Jodie Whittaker tells fans not to be

:01:27. > :01:59.scared of her gender. Welcome to the programme,

:02:00. > :02:04.we're live until 11 this morning. A little later we'll speak

:02:05. > :02:06.to the greatest of all time, 8 times Wimbledon winner and 19

:02:07. > :02:09.grand slams - 35 year old Roger As always do get in touch

:02:10. > :02:20.on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:02:21. > :02:22.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:02:23. > :02:25.at the standard network rate. Our top story today,

:02:26. > :02:27.a terminally ill man will this morning begin a High Court challenge

:02:28. > :02:30.to the ban on assisted dying. Noel Conway, who's 67 and has

:02:31. > :02:32.motor neurone disease, wants a doctor to be allowed

:02:33. > :02:35.to prescribe a lethal dose of drugs when his health

:02:36. > :02:37.deteriorates further. Under the law, any doctor

:02:38. > :02:40.who helped him to die would face up Opponents say a change in the law

:02:41. > :02:44.would place the weak But Mr Conway says that

:02:45. > :02:48.as his disease progresses, he fears becoming entombed

:02:49. > :02:54.in his body. I do not want to die very

:02:55. > :03:02.slowly of suffocation and being semiconscious until I am

:03:03. > :03:05.in a condition where I don't even For some people, they say

:03:06. > :03:12.that is good palliative care. But I am sorry, that is not

:03:13. > :03:17.an acceptable option for me. They cannot tell me

:03:18. > :03:20.how long it will take. It could be days, it could be weeks,

:03:21. > :03:26.it could be even longer. I am going to be left

:03:27. > :03:39.in a situation at some amount of suffering,

:03:40. > :03:43.actually being locked in my own body, or are facing

:03:44. > :03:49.a slow, suffocating death, drifting off slowly

:03:50. > :03:51.into unconsciousness. We can speak to our Health

:03:52. > :04:10.Correspondent Fergus Walsh. We have had similar cases in the

:04:11. > :04:15.past, judges have often said it's a decision for Parliament, Parliament

:04:16. > :04:20.last voted on this in 2015, similar terror true. No, talking about a

:04:21. > :04:23.narrow group of people. He is, talking about people who have less

:04:24. > :04:29.than six months to live and are terminally ill. In a sense he is the

:04:30. > :04:36.first case that fits the description of the attempt on successful attempt

:04:37. > :04:43.that was brought by a Labour MP in 2015 to change the law. -- similar

:04:44. > :04:48.territory. In 2014 the Supreme Court rejected a previous case involving

:04:49. > :04:53.Tony Nicholson who had locked in syndrome and two other men but it

:04:54. > :04:59.said this is a matter for MPs, a matter for Parliament. And

:05:00. > :05:03.Parliament rejected it after a four Howard debate but things are

:05:04. > :05:07.constantly evolving, more states in the US are now allowing assisted

:05:08. > :05:14.dying, parts of Australia are considering it as well. And there is

:05:15. > :05:17.a lot of public support for it in the opinion polls that are done

:05:18. > :05:23.although those who are against says it depends how you asked the

:05:24. > :05:28.question. Yes. Are there any parallels, similarities between this

:05:29. > :05:32.case of North Conway and the case of the terminally ill baby Charlie

:05:33. > :05:39.card? I think there are because both involve end of life care, both are

:05:40. > :05:43.terminally ill, and both raise profound issues as medical

:05:44. > :05:49.technology improves and people can be kept alive longer. That is where

:05:50. > :05:54.legally similarities end because in the case of Charlie guard his

:05:55. > :05:57.doctors say he should be allowed to die with dignity and bad in bowls

:05:58. > :06:02.withdrawing treatment which is perfectly legal. In the case of

:06:03. > :06:07.normal Conway, he says he wants to die with dignity but he needs a

:06:08. > :06:12.doctor to actively do something and it's that active giving him this

:06:13. > :06:17.lethal dose of barbiturates that would mean they were falling foul of

:06:18. > :06:22.the suicide act and they would face up to 14 years in prison but both

:06:23. > :06:26.raise profound issues. Neither has any indications for the other but

:06:27. > :06:29.interesting that both are before the High Court. And in the case of

:06:30. > :06:35.Charlie guard, an American neurologist is due to meet the

:06:36. > :06:40.doctors at great arms. That's right, he was invited back in January but

:06:41. > :06:43.declined to come, he is a busy man and runs a mitochondrial research

:06:44. > :06:50.unit in New York, but he has agreed to come. The judge has said if both

:06:51. > :06:57.sides, he am the doctors at great Ormond could reach a mediated

:06:58. > :07:00.settlement he would be delighted. But at the beginning of last week

:07:01. > :07:04.when this case came back to the High Court with the claims of new

:07:05. > :07:07.evidence, the judge said it would take something pretty dramatic to

:07:08. > :07:13.make him change his mind but this will be the first time that the

:07:14. > :07:19.doctor in America has seen Charlie guard and had access to all his

:07:20. > :07:23.medical records for jihad and asked 4-by-4. He's going to be here today

:07:24. > :07:27.and tomorrow and then the High Court judge has said he will bring it back

:07:28. > :07:33.to Court next week and will make a decision. Thank you, Fergus. Fergus

:07:34. > :07:35.is our medical correspondent. More on both those stories later in the

:07:36. > :07:38.programme. Now, a summary of the rest

:07:39. > :07:40.of the days news. Here is to wonder. -- here is

:07:41. > :08:01.Joanna. Victoria will speak to victims of

:08:02. > :08:06.acid attacks and the MPs you arranged for the debate at 935.

:08:07. > :08:09.The Brexit Secretary David Davis has called for both sides to "get down

:08:10. > :08:11.to business" this morning as the next round of negotiating

:08:12. > :08:14.Mr Davis is meeting the European Commission's chief

:08:15. > :08:18.Key issues will include the future rights of EU citizens in the UK

:08:19. > :08:22.and British citizens living in other member states.

:08:23. > :08:30.As the Foreign Secretary Oris Johnson explains. I'm pleased

:08:31. > :08:36.negotiations are beginning and as you know, a very fair and serious

:08:37. > :08:41.offer has been put on the table by the UK Government about citizenship,

:08:42. > :08:47.the value we place on the 3.2 million EU citizens in our country,

:08:48. > :08:50.I think the very good offer we are making to them and the security they

:08:51. > :08:54.can have about their future and I hope very much that people will look

:08:55. > :08:56.about for in the spirit it deserves because I think it's a great offer.

:08:57. > :08:57.Thank you. The final route for

:08:58. > :08:59.the controversial HS2 rail line north of Birmingham will be

:09:00. > :09:01.announced today - There's also more detail on who has

:09:02. > :09:06.been awarded contracts worth nearly 7 billion pounds to work

:09:07. > :09:08.on the first stretch of the line - and information

:09:09. > :09:11.on around 16,000 jobs. Our Business Correspondent

:09:12. > :09:16.Joe Lynam has more. It's Britain's biggest investment

:09:17. > :09:18.ever in public transport. HighSpeed2 is designed to cut

:09:19. > :09:21.journey times and increase the number of passenger

:09:22. > :09:23.seats between London It's been six years

:09:24. > :09:31.in the planning but now the first construction contracts have been

:09:32. > :09:34.signed, and they're worth ?6.6 billion, which the government says

:09:35. > :09:36.will support 16,000 jobs The first trains aren't

:09:37. > :09:42.expected to run, though, until 2026, by which time they hope

:09:43. > :09:49.to carry 300,000 passengers per day. ?50 billion on a track

:09:50. > :09:51.of this nature... The Stop HS2 Campaign

:09:52. > :09:57.in the Chiltern says it will only benefit the richest in society

:09:58. > :10:02.and the corporations who build it. And reports on the weekend said HS2

:10:03. > :10:05.could end up as the most expensive Even so, the muddy work of spades

:10:06. > :10:12.in the ground begins next year for what the government

:10:13. > :10:15.calls "The backbone Stacy Banner has returned

:10:16. > :10:27.to her mother's home for the first time since her mum was killed

:10:28. > :10:29.by her step-father, who also shot dead her sister

:10:30. > :10:32.at their puppy farm in 2014. In April the Independent Police

:10:33. > :10:34.Complaint's Commission found that two Surrey Police staff were rebuked

:10:35. > :10:37.for returning shotguns to John Lowe, who later murdered Christine

:10:38. > :10:41.and Lucy Lee. And you can see that film

:10:42. > :10:43.of Stacy Banner returning For the first time Doctor Who will

:10:44. > :10:54.be a woman, she's been unveiled as Jodie Whittaker but everyone

:10:55. > :11:05.is happy about the change. The actress said she wanted to tell

:11:06. > :11:11.fans not to be scared by her gender. There has been mixed reaction in the

:11:12. > :11:13.newspapers and from commentators something men are being

:11:14. > :11:14.marginalised, others saying the change is long overdue.

:11:15. > :11:17.And Victoria will be talking to fans and the Editor

:11:18. > :11:20.of Doctor Who magazine to see their reaction at 9.45.

:11:21. > :11:30.So many of you giving your views, Rees saying Jodie Whittaker is

:11:31. > :11:38.brilliant, especially excited and used by crew men getting upset by

:11:39. > :11:44.this. In an audio series Arabella Weir played the Doctor, one pure has

:11:45. > :11:48.said, give her a chance. Martin on Facebook says millions of fans stop

:11:49. > :11:58.watching several years back, this is just several more nails in the

:11:59. > :12:03.Doctor Who Coughlan. -- one. Another viewer said it would be great if it

:12:04. > :12:07.encourages girls to get involved in science. Terry on Facebook says it

:12:08. > :12:13.is brilliant, excellent choice, bring on the next series. Delyn says

:12:14. > :12:19.its great a woman has got the role, the eccentric he could look theme

:12:20. > :12:24.was getting stale. Elisabeth says what is all the fuss about? Michelle

:12:25. > :12:29.says she is a great actress and will be brilliant. Many of you will know

:12:30. > :12:36.her from broad church. She was amazing in that role. Get in touch

:12:37. > :12:41.with us throughout the morning. Some sports news. Blair is here and

:12:42. > :12:46.amazing Roger Federer. Good morning. Such a massive day for him

:12:47. > :12:49.yesterday, watched on Centre Court by his family including his two sets

:12:50. > :12:53.of twins, becoming the first man to win Wimbledon eight times eating

:12:54. > :12:58.Marin Cilic in straight sets, not dropping a single set which is a

:12:59. > :13:03.record in itself. The first man to do that in 41 years. Now part of

:13:04. > :13:09.Wimbledon history of poets worth mentioning Martina Navratilova has

:13:10. > :13:14.won the ladies singles title nine times before. But at the age of 35,

:13:15. > :13:17.he becomes the oldest man in the open era to win at the All-England

:13:18. > :13:21.Club after spending six months away from the sport last year, missing

:13:22. > :13:25.the French Open in June but he said that Wimbledon is his favourite and

:13:26. > :13:30.he hopes to come back next year to defend his title. Good news for

:13:31. > :13:33.Johanna Konta. Excellent news, the world rankings are out and after

:13:34. > :13:41.that incredible run at Wimbledon she is the fourth test player in the

:13:42. > :13:45.woman's game. Moving from seventh to fourth after Garbine Muguruza beat

:13:46. > :13:51.Venus Williams in the finals on Saturday. Angelique Kerber still

:13:52. > :13:53.number one. Andy Murray keeping his spot at the top of the world

:13:54. > :13:58.rankings despite losing to Sam Querrey. The first time since 1975

:13:59. > :14:08.that a British man and woman have made the top five. Great news. An

:14:09. > :14:11.unusual mixed dubber is -- doubles or Kim cloisters. This has to be the

:14:12. > :14:16.most endearing moment this year away from the serious sporting

:14:17. > :14:20.achievement, four-time grand slam winner Kim cloisters invited a fan

:14:21. > :14:24.to join her on Court, this was during the individual doubles on

:14:25. > :14:31.Friday. It was after he was shouting suggestions were she should serve.

:14:32. > :14:36.She also said he had to look the part, he had to wear a skirt. She

:14:37. > :14:41.was in stitches but he eventually managed to get it on. What a sport!

:14:42. > :14:47.A serve coming up. This is surprising. Kim was serving, he

:14:48. > :14:52.beckons her, he lobbed it loving that. He was a good sport,

:14:53. > :14:57.eventually hitting the net. Great sport, hosing or picture is a little

:14:58. > :15:01.bit later. I think it's the Wimbledon equivalent of come and

:15:02. > :15:05.have a go if you think you are hard enough. My favourite moment of

:15:06. > :15:07.Wimbledon away from the sporting events. Victoria, back to you. Thank

:15:08. > :15:15.you. A woman whose mother and sister were

:15:16. > :15:21.shot at a family farm in Surrey tells us why she wanted to visit the

:15:22. > :15:25.scene of their deaths. 82-year-old John Lowe murdered his wife and step

:15:26. > :15:29.daughter along with four puppies in 2014. Police had returned his

:15:30. > :15:33.shotguns to him before he murdered them. Christine Lee's other daughter

:15:34. > :15:39.was at her family home three miles away. She was arrested after the

:15:40. > :15:42.deaths and now an Independent Police Complaints Commission review has

:15:43. > :15:46.found misconduct claims against one Surrey police sergeant involved in

:15:47. > :15:50.the case. Two other detectives have been cleared. Almost three years

:15:51. > :15:53.after the murders, Stacy wanted to revisit the scene where her family

:15:54. > :15:57.was killed and asked us to be there with her. During the visit, she

:15:58. > :16:02.becomes very upset but was determined to carry on. You might

:16:03. > :16:11.find some of the details in this report distressing.

:16:12. > :16:20.It's almost like expecting something to happen.

:16:21. > :16:29.For the first time in three years, Stacy Banner has returned

:16:30. > :16:33.to the family farm near Farnham in Surrey where her sister Lucy

:16:34. > :16:37.and her mum Christine were shot dead in 2014 by this man,

:16:38. > :16:45.It brings back so many terrible memories.

:16:46. > :17:00.if there was anything that reminded me of them.

:17:01. > :17:20.The two deceased appeared to have gunshot wounds.

:17:21. > :17:24.The officers also found a total of four dogs at the address,

:17:25. > :17:28.all of whom also appeared to have had gunshot wounds.

:17:29. > :17:30.So what drove this 82-year-old to carry out such

:17:31. > :17:38.If he hadn't have got those guns back then they would be here,

:17:39. > :17:45.They would be alive, they would be fine,

:17:46. > :17:48.my children would be, you know, able to see them.

:17:49. > :17:52.A year before the killings, in March 2013, John Lowe's seven

:17:53. > :17:55.shotguns were seized by Surrey Police following

:17:56. > :18:03.But five months later the guns and his licence were returned and,

:18:04. > :18:06.in February 2014, Christine, who had known Lowe for more

:18:07. > :18:10.than 25 years, was shot at point-blank range.

:18:11. > :18:13.Her daughter Lucy escaped and made a frantic 999 call before

:18:14. > :18:22.She's running down the drive, OK, and making that call.

:18:23. > :18:36.Surrey Police were strongly criticised by the Independent Police

:18:37. > :18:49.Complaints Commission for returning John Lowe's collection of shotguns.

:18:50. > :18:55.Stacey's account of what happened that day is very distressing.

:18:56. > :19:04.Can you imagine having to beg for your life?

:19:05. > :19:15.The police described what happened in the house as an execution.

:19:16. > :19:29.And I keep thinking, you know, she should've hid.

:19:30. > :19:39.It took her quite a long, it wasn't instant with Lucy.

:19:40. > :19:43.You know, the police took 45 minutes to get there,

:19:44. > :20:43.He couldn't leave me her, I want her back.

:20:44. > :20:47.John Lowe, just hours after being arrested,

:20:48. > :20:56.He claimed the murder was an accident.

:20:57. > :21:03.I was going to the door, holding the gun up to go to the door.

:21:04. > :21:11.So I pulled the trigger, I don't know if I even meant to.

:21:12. > :21:15.Now, Surrey Police had records of John Lowe's violent history.

:21:16. > :21:18.He had made repeated threats to kill, and even lied

:21:19. > :21:23.on his firearms application, but yet he was still given

:21:24. > :21:29.One of the reasons why people are so shocked, likely,

:21:30. > :21:31.is because this is not commonplace in England.

:21:32. > :21:38.I've come to meet Surrey's Police and Crime Commissioner, David Munro.

:21:39. > :21:46.I'm afraid the firearms licensing unit did not behave

:21:47. > :21:50.as it should have done, and made catastrophic

:21:51. > :21:55.mistakes which led to this tragic, tragic result.

:21:56. > :21:58.There was a catalogue of errors in the firearm licensing department.

:21:59. > :22:01.They handed John Lowe back his guns, and as a result of that he murdered

:22:02. > :22:14.As soon as the murders happened, we got in independent police forces

:22:15. > :22:18.to review our firearms licences, so I am confident that the firearms

:22:19. > :22:21.licensing unit is now fit for purpose, which it clearly wasn't

:22:22. > :22:32.The tragedy should never have happened.

:22:33. > :22:38.The two officers who were held responsible for failing to carry out

:22:39. > :22:41.proper checks on John Lowe have since been dismissed

:22:42. > :22:45.He was just, his job was as a guard dog.

:22:46. > :22:49.Mandy worked with John Lowe and says she still has nightmares about him.

:22:50. > :22:51.Speaking for the first time, she says that she was also

:22:52. > :22:55.threatened by the pensioner on his farm.

:22:56. > :22:58.We had the RSPCA there, we had the police there.

:22:59. > :23:02.He didn't have his guns back at this time.

:23:03. > :23:05.We had to remove all the dogs from the farm because the RSPCA

:23:06. > :23:10.were taking them, and John stood at the fence and said,

:23:11. > :23:13."If I had my guns, I'd shoot the effing lot of you."

:23:14. > :23:15.They still gave him his guns back later on.

:23:16. > :23:18.And he said that in front of the police?

:23:19. > :23:21.He said that in front of the police, while we were walking out with arms

:23:22. > :23:30.We'd had to borrow leads to get the dogs away from that.

:23:31. > :23:32.Remember the last time when you see her?

:23:33. > :23:37.Stacey, her two children, and her husband Andrew say

:23:38. > :23:40.they are still coming to terms with the pain their

:23:41. > :23:44.The circumstances and how brutal the murder was,

:23:45. > :23:49.the more and more that came out over time, the more dreadful it got.

:23:50. > :23:56.Then you see stuff on the news that you wasn't even told yourself,

:23:57. > :23:59.you find out on the news what actually had happened instead

:24:00. > :24:07.It wasn't great to see Stacey watching that kind of thing

:24:08. > :24:11.To me, it should've been done better, it should've been dealt

:24:12. > :24:18.And it's all the more upsetting for Stacey that the mum and sister

:24:19. > :24:23.she loved so much should have died in such tragic circumstances.

:24:24. > :24:32.They were incompetent, they were complacent, and they've

:24:33. > :24:59.What are you doing in order to prevent this happening ever again?

:25:00. > :25:03.We have implemented in full all recommendations.

:25:04. > :25:08.We have a new leadership team in place.

:25:09. > :25:10.I'm confident they are giving this whole area -

:25:11. > :25:12.it's a complex area, firearms licensing -

:25:13. > :25:15.the attention that it deserves, and I will be making sure

:25:16. > :25:18.that they keep their eye on the ball.

:25:19. > :25:21.John Lowe, seen here in 2014, will spend the rest

:25:22. > :25:28.Christine and Lucy Lee's murders offer a rare glimpse into a tragic

:25:29. > :25:34.crime and the impact on the victims left behind.

:25:35. > :25:38.Stacey says that she's decided to speak out with her family

:25:39. > :25:42.in the hope that her story will resonate as a vivid

:25:43. > :25:49.account of what happens when mistakes are made.

:25:50. > :25:52.He has wrecked my life, because I have no roots.

:25:53. > :25:55.Everyone's got that, "I'm going to my mum's this weekend," or,

:25:56. > :26:11.Just last week a Surrey Police detective involved in the case

:26:12. > :26:14.was found guilty of misconduct after arresting Stacey in 2014.

:26:15. > :26:17.This was following the death of her mum and sister.

:26:18. > :26:28.Meanwhile two other detectives were cleared.

:26:29. > :26:39.We'll talk to Stacy later on in the programme. Coming up, acid attacks -

:26:40. > :26:43.we'll talk about that later. Plus we'll hear from Roger Federer, the

:26:44. > :26:52.greatest of all-time after his eighth Wimbledon win.

:26:53. > :26:56.And the new Dr Who Jodie Whittaker deals with criticism of her

:26:57. > :26:59.appointment by tells fans not to be scared of her gender. He's not

:27:00. > :27:06.bothered! We'll talk to some of those fans in the next half hour.

:27:07. > :27:16.Time for the latest news with Joanna.

:27:17. > :27:18.Our top story today, a terminally ill man will this

:27:19. > :27:21.morning begin a High Court challenge to the ban on assisted dying.

:27:22. > :27:23.Noel Conway, who's 67 and has motor neurone disease,

:27:24. > :27:26.wants a doctor to be allowed to prescribe a lethal dose

:27:27. > :27:28.of drugs when his health deteriorates further.

:27:29. > :27:31.Under the law, any doctor who helped him to die would face up

:27:32. > :27:35.Opponents say a change in the law would place the weak

:27:36. > :28:00.A 20-year-old man has been charged in connection with the murder of a

:28:01. > :28:04.girl at the weekend. He has been charged with possession with intent

:28:05. > :28:08.to supply a Class A drug. The 15-year-old was found unconscious at

:28:09. > :28:20.a park in Newton Abbott over the weekend.

:28:21. > :28:22.The final route for the controversial HS2 rail line

:28:23. > :28:24.north of Birmingham will be announced today -

:28:25. > :28:28.There's also more detail on who has been awarded contracts worth nearly

:28:29. > :28:30.7 billion pounds to work on the first stretch

:28:31. > :28:44.of the line - and information on around 16,000 jobs.

:28:45. > :28:55.The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson explains what will be happening in

:28:56. > :28:58.the Brussels round of talks. We can't bring you that now. We'll

:28:59. > :29:04.bring you that later. American neurologist who's offered

:29:05. > :29:06.to carry out a new therapy on the terminally ill baby,

:29:07. > :29:09.Charlie Gard, is due to meet Eat Ormond Street Hospital -

:29:10. > :29:13.where Charlie is being treated - The High Court is

:29:14. > :29:17.considering his case. For the first time Doctor Who will

:29:18. > :29:20.be a woman, she's been unveiled as Jodie Whittaker but everyone

:29:21. > :29:23.is happy about the change. The actress said she wanted to tell

:29:24. > :29:26.fans not to be scared by her gender. There has been mixed

:29:27. > :29:28.reaction in the newspapers and from commentators something men

:29:29. > :29:31.are being marginalised, others saying

:29:32. > :29:34.the change is long overdue. And Victoria will be talking

:29:35. > :29:38.to fans and the Editor of Doctor Who magazine

:29:39. > :29:55.to see their reaction at 9.45. More people are delighted about her

:29:56. > :29:58.becoming the 13th Dr Who, than those who're not so delighted. Here is Liz

:29:59. > :30:10.with the sport. Roger Federer says he plans to

:30:11. > :30:15.return to defend his title in eczema. He turns 36 next summer,

:30:16. > :30:29.winning for the eighth time at the All-England Club. -- to defend his

:30:30. > :30:33.title in the summer. Johanna Konta reaches a career high of four in the

:30:34. > :30:39.world after losing to Venus Williams in the semifinal. It's the fourth

:30:40. > :30:45.day of the second test for England cricket against South Africa, hoping

:30:46. > :30:50.to avoid defeat at Trent Bridge. Resuming on 1-0. That's all from me.

:30:51. > :30:53.I will be back at 10am. The government is being accused of

:30:54. > :30:58.dragging its feet over tougher sentences for people who carry out

:30:59. > :31:04.acid attacks. There were 450 attacks in London alone last year, double

:31:05. > :31:07.the number from 2015. Harsher punishments and stricter rules for

:31:08. > :31:09.buying crews of substances will be debated in Parliament but victims

:31:10. > :31:15.want to know why it's taken so long to get the issue talked about in the

:31:16. > :31:18.Commons. Something first raised on this programme in April by Chris

:31:19. > :31:24.Bonnie who was attacked with acid by strangers on the doorstep of his

:31:25. > :31:28.home. There needs to be some form of education, it's not acceptable to

:31:29. > :31:39.use it as a weapon. From a young age, sorry, we educate that knife

:31:40. > :31:42.crime, how bad it is, gun crime but chemical attacks, substance attacks,

:31:43. > :31:43.they are becoming more and more frequent and there needs to be

:31:44. > :31:50.something done to stop it. We can talk now to Stephen Timms,

:31:51. > :31:53.the Labour MP that has organised tonight's debate,

:31:54. > :31:55.Jaf Shah from the Acid Survivors Trust International

:31:56. > :31:57.and Tara Quigley, who had acid thrown at her in 2013

:31:58. > :31:59.leaving her with severe burns on her face and neck; she's had 15

:32:00. > :32:10.operations to date on the burns. Tara, thank you so much for talking

:32:11. > :32:16.to us, tell the audience for happened to you. I was at my home

:32:17. > :32:21.address, I had a young man knocked on my front door, he asked for

:32:22. > :32:25.someone of a name that didn't live there, he went away, five minutes

:32:26. > :32:30.later he returned and threw acid acne. Without saying a word.

:32:31. > :32:39.Basically destroyed my life in one action. Tell us about the treatment

:32:40. > :32:44.you had since then. I had plastic surgery, skin grafts, realignments

:32:45. > :32:51.of my skin, it just goes on and on, 15 operations. Is that how it feels,

:32:52. > :32:58.it feels like he has destroyed your life? Definitely. You have any idea

:32:59. > :33:04.why he did what he did? None whatsoever, he refused to give any

:33:05. > :33:10.information. But he has been caught. Yes, he was caught with them I think

:33:11. > :33:14.the first two weeks. And he's never ever given any steered to the

:33:15. > :33:19.officers investigating your case? Not whatsoever, he was quite

:33:20. > :33:24.ignorant to the fact. What you think about the debate now for either new

:33:25. > :33:31.legislation or a database of Thibaut who buy acid or an age limit,

:33:32. > :33:35.restriction on those who buy this corrosive substance? I think it's

:33:36. > :33:43.long, long overdue to be honest, excuse me. I think this should have

:33:44. > :33:49.been done years ago. We are just showing the audience an image of you

:33:50. > :33:58.after the acid was thrown at you. Can you recall the sensation as it

:33:59. > :34:04.was on your head? It was horrible. I could see my skin bubbling and the

:34:05. > :34:10.pain was excruciating. It was the worst day of my life, by far. And

:34:11. > :34:16.how are you now? Not just physically but also mentally? I think the

:34:17. > :34:21.mental side of it in some ways is the worst because physically, the

:34:22. > :34:25.doctors have healed me as such and they've done amazing work with me

:34:26. > :34:30.but mentally, it's never going to leave me. It's an everyday thing, I

:34:31. > :34:34.think about it every day, I fear it every day, I think of it every

:34:35. > :34:41.night, its ongoing, part of me now. Right. Tara, I am going to bring in

:34:42. > :34:45.another guest, from the acid survivors trust International. What

:34:46. > :34:51.should be in place to prevent what happened to Tara happening to

:34:52. > :34:57.someone else? We released a study looking at UK legislation back in

:34:58. > :34:59.November, 2015. We made recommendations that the government

:35:00. > :35:04.should be introducing tighter controls on the sale of acid,

:35:05. > :35:08.particularly sulphuric acid in concentrated form. Through a

:35:09. > :35:12.licensing system, like licensing systems we have for knives and guns,

:35:13. > :35:17.that should happen immediately. On top of that, we are conscious of the

:35:18. > :35:20.fact young perpetrators are perpetrating many of these, an age

:35:21. > :35:24.restriction should apply to purchasing not just sulphuric acid

:35:25. > :35:30.and household products which have high corrosive content. And I think

:35:31. > :35:35.at the end of the day, we need a lot more research on the problem. We

:35:36. > :35:37.don't have a clear picture, we need a better understanding of the

:35:38. > :35:42.perpetrators, what either demographics... They are all young

:35:43. > :35:47.men, aren't they? But we don't necessarily know the motivation

:35:48. > :35:50.behind the attacks, we get a conflict in picture, some attacks

:35:51. > :35:56.relating to robbery, had crime, gender-based violence, and some

:35:57. > :35:59.unprovoked. We need to get a clearer pattern, once we have a clearer

:36:00. > :36:05.pattern we are better able to introduce a more targeted response.

:36:06. > :36:08.Stephen Timms, good morning. Good morning. Do you think we need new

:36:09. > :36:13.legislation or have we got the legislation we need, it's just we

:36:14. > :36:17.need prosecutors and judges to use what we have? I think we need

:36:18. > :36:19.changes in the law and I very much agree with both your previous

:36:20. > :36:25.speakers. I think first of all carrying acid should be a criminal

:36:26. > :36:29.offence in the same way that we made carrying a knife a criminal offence.

:36:30. > :36:35.Of course in both instances there are perfectly legitimate uses of

:36:36. > :36:38.knives and acid. Sorry to interrupt, what we have this possession of acid

:36:39. > :36:43.or other corrosive substances with intent to do harm can be treated as

:36:44. > :36:47.possession of an offensive weapon. That's right but the is proving

:36:48. > :36:52.someone has the intent to do harm if they have not actually done harm.

:36:53. > :36:56.I'm saying that simply possessing acid should be a criminal offence on

:36:57. > :37:00.less is a good reason why it's somebody has got at. That's the

:37:01. > :37:04.change we made in the case of knives, we could equally do that in

:37:05. > :37:07.the case of acid and I hope the Home Secretary today confirms the

:37:08. > :37:12.government will make that change. The other one, picking up from what

:37:13. > :37:17.your previous guest has said, sulphuric acid should only be sold

:37:18. > :37:20.to someone who has a license to buy it, that's a change recommended by

:37:21. > :37:25.the British Retail Consortium, either shopkeepers themselves. The

:37:26. > :37:31.regulations are already in place to make that possible, government will

:37:32. > :37:34.make that change too. Acid attackers, as you probably know can

:37:35. > :37:39.be given life sentences, that is the maximum available for causing

:37:40. > :37:44.grievous bodily harm with intent. Would you read a message out to the

:37:45. > :37:48.judicial to start using the powers they have? Yes, I think they should.

:37:49. > :37:52.The Home Secretary of the weekend said she was going to review the

:37:53. > :37:57.sentences for people or conflict had up acid attacks. I think we need

:37:58. > :38:00.tougher sentences and more consistent sentencing because

:38:01. > :38:04.although sometimes life sentences have been used other times really

:38:05. > :38:09.very small sentences have given, I think we need consistency and the

:38:10. > :38:12.guidelines need to spelt that out. Why do you think we have seen a rise

:38:13. > :38:23.in this country of these kinds of attacks? I think it's linked to a

:38:24. > :38:27.clamp-down on the use of other illegal weapons like knives and

:38:28. > :38:29.guns, perpetrators have identified a loophole in the system because there

:38:30. > :38:35.isn't sufficient control around acid... Getting hold of it. Yes. At

:38:36. > :38:40.acid leaves a very visible mark. On its intended fit in, enormous amount

:38:41. > :38:45.of scarring. I think for some would-be perpetrators that's part of

:38:46. > :38:50.the perverted appeal, it's about leaving a visible scar on your

:38:51. > :38:52.victim. Tara, what would you message be to politicians who will talk

:38:53. > :38:59.about this in the House of Commons today? Just, please, please change

:39:00. > :39:04.the law, may get a compulsory life sentence and I totally agree with

:39:05. > :39:11.the sales of acid, having to produce some sort of is that ID or hold a

:39:12. > :39:16.licence. All right, thank you so much. We appreciate your time. Tara

:39:17. > :39:21.Quigley who had acid thrown out in 2013. Thank you very much to my

:39:22. > :39:29.other guests as well. Coming up, we'll be live

:39:30. > :39:41.at Wimbledon to speak to this year's That is around in 30 minutes time,

:39:42. > :39:43.we hope, possibly one of the nicest men in sport!

:39:44. > :39:46.Some men are angry that a woman has been chosen to play Doctor Who.

:39:47. > :39:50.for her roles in the crime drama Broadchurch, is taking it

:39:51. > :39:53.all in her stride telling fans not to "be scared of her gender, saying.

:39:54. > :39:55.It feels completely overwhelming; as a feminist,

:39:56. > :39:58.as a woman, as an actor, as a human, as someone who wants

:39:59. > :40:00.to continually push themselves and challenge themselves,

:40:01. > :40:03.and not be boxed in by what you're told you can and can't be.

:40:04. > :40:07.She'll take over from Peter Capaldi in this years christmas

:40:08. > :40:21.special, ecoming the 13th doctor since the 1960s.

:40:22. > :40:34.You will have to destroy all living matter. I never said that but I

:40:35. > :40:41.maintain I have the right to decide what I look like. I got lost in the

:40:42. > :40:54.time vortex. The TARDIS brought me home.

:40:55. > :41:06.How about this? Much better, let's settle for this. I am off to visit

:41:07. > :41:12.the scene of the crime. Tell me on the way. Can you hear me? Open your

:41:13. > :41:46.mouth, you must drink this. Doctor? You were expecting someone

:41:47. > :41:54.us? I... Stereo is and eager breath makes you sound and appear rather

:41:55. > :42:09.egotistical, young lady! Where am I? Who are you? Stay back. This is

:42:10. > :42:21.idiotic. I apologise. Physician, heal by self!

:42:22. > :42:32.Of course, I suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. I hope the years

:42:33. > :42:46.are rabid less conspicuous this time! Absolutely fantastic! And you

:42:47. > :42:52.know what? So was I. His body repairs itself, it changes, but you

:42:53. > :43:16.can't! I'm sorry, it's too late. I'm regenerating.

:43:17. > :43:30.No! No! Please don't. Who's that girl?

:43:31. > :43:38.We can chat about this more now with Doctor Who fans,

:43:39. > :43:41.Katy Jon Went, Kavita Kakur, Ben Bradford and the editor of

:43:42. > :43:57.What do you think? I am ecstatic, over the Moon, we need a shake-up

:43:58. > :44:01.and we've been waiting for a female doctor for ages. When was the last

:44:02. > :44:07.time we women had a great female role model to look up to? Long time

:44:08. > :44:12.coming. We've already shaken up sexuality in the Doctor Who world,

:44:13. > :44:18.so to speak. Just explain. Bring back torchwood. Torchwood shook up

:44:19. > :44:28.things around sexuality and the character of Bill, same sex. And I

:44:29. > :44:32.think it's already had and played with sexuality plenty and it has

:44:33. > :44:35.been time to do gender and the master has been missing for three

:44:36. > :44:43.years. Get over it. Then, for about you? I think it's great, when I saw

:44:44. > :44:50.Jodie Whittaker I was excited and it was great. Because she's a woman or

:44:51. > :44:57.a great actress? Or both. Great actor, the female aspect, she gives

:44:58. > :45:03.it a new twist. Tom, does it give it a new twist? Is it we generate, to

:45:04. > :45:07.use that word, rejuvenate Doctor Who? I think audiences have been

:45:08. > :45:12.falling away a little. A little, there is always an ebb and flow to

:45:13. > :45:18.something so popular, then it's been around for 54 years. Back in 1960,

:45:19. > :45:22.in 66, William Hartnell left the programme and that they hadn't

:45:23. > :45:25.decided to do something different that wouldn't have lasted any longer

:45:26. > :45:29.than that, there's always going to have to be new and inventive ways to

:45:30. > :45:33.keep something fresh and there's no reason why a woman couldn't play the

:45:34. > :45:35.part. Jodie Whittaker is fantastic. I'm really looking forward to seeing

:45:36. > :45:47.what she does. In the past, she tipped herself to

:45:48. > :45:50.take over as the doctor at some point. This was Olivia Cole's

:45:51. > :45:52.reaction. She's brilliant, it's a classy

:45:53. > :45:54.decision, she'll do it so well. My only thing to say

:45:55. > :45:57.is to leave her alone and let her do her job brilliantly,

:45:58. > :45:59.because it's a massive, massive thing she's undertaken,

:46:00. > :46:04.and she will be great. It's not her job to fly the flag

:46:05. > :46:07.for all of women kind. The creatives made the right

:46:08. > :46:10.decision, decided that part should She'll do that part better

:46:11. > :46:33.than anyone, and yeah, So let her get on with the job, it's

:46:34. > :46:36.not her job to do the job for womankind? Why does it matter

:46:37. > :46:40.whether the doctor is a woman It does matter to some, not many, but

:46:41. > :46:45.some people are cross about it. Yes. They think it's just about political

:46:46. > :46:50.correctness and a sort of "typical BBC decision". Right, but I think

:46:51. > :46:54.Jodie's a fantastic actress and she'll do it justice. If that's the

:46:55. > :46:58.case, they should have been upset from the Advent of the programme

:46:59. > :47:02.itself. It was female envisioned from the outset, there were female

:47:03. > :47:06.producers at time, women have been involved in its production from the

:47:07. > :47:09.beginning. There have been brilliant female characters in it. Yes, it's

:47:10. > :47:15.probably one of the most diverse programmes out there, but it needs

:47:16. > :47:19.to be more so. There'll be people out there saying, why couldn't it

:47:20. > :47:22.have been a black woman. You can't tick every single box but it's a

:47:23. > :47:27.long-awaited diverse shift that I think will bring a new charm and

:47:28. > :47:30.character to the role. She's also not representing all of womankind,

:47:31. > :47:35.she's going to represent her character and her role. She's

:47:36. > :47:38.already said she's got to channel 13 other personalities of the doctor

:47:39. > :47:42.already so the character, the gender may change and the character will

:47:43. > :47:46.take shifts, but the personality of the doctor will remain the same.

:47:47. > :47:53.Interesting to see if Chris uses the... Chris is the new executive

:47:54. > :48:00.producer and he workeded with Jodie Whittaker on broad church. And

:48:01. > :48:05.Olivia Coleman. I think we are going to have a very interesting show. Was

:48:06. > :48:10.it a surprise or not Tom when you heard it was Jodie Whittaker,

:48:11. > :48:15.bearing in mind Chris worked with her on broad church? I suppose it's

:48:16. > :48:19.not the biggest surprise because you look at people who Chris has worked

:48:20. > :48:30.with before and she's going to be flailing at the top of the list. I

:48:31. > :48:35.was surprised as everyone else was when it was the hood being pulled

:48:36. > :48:42.back and it was her because I didn't have any advance warning. When we

:48:43. > :48:45.can stop talking about the fact that it's a woman and specifically Jodie

:48:46. > :48:49.Whittaker, that will be the big moment, because the real question

:48:50. > :48:53.is, what is she going to do with it, how will she convince us she's the

:48:54. > :48:57.same character that's been played by all these other men? I'm really

:48:58. > :49:07.looking forward to that because I think she'll do it really well.

:49:08. > :49:13.Martin says on Facebook, still the BBC are trying to twist a negative

:49:14. > :49:20.into a positive. Try doing a live poll before spouting rubbish. I'm

:49:21. > :49:24.going on messages the programme and actually, there are not many

:49:25. > :49:31.criticising the decision to make the 13th doctor a woman. That is what I

:49:32. > :49:36.was going on. Adele says it's long overdue, not for any PC reason but

:49:37. > :49:40.it could provide new refreshing material. I couldn't watch it much

:49:41. > :49:46.after David Tenant but I think Whittaker could add a new diamongst

:49:47. > :49:52.and aisle excited by it. Simon says, anyone who has a problem with it

:49:53. > :49:56.should jump in a Tardis and join us in the modern day. The seer I haves

:49:57. > :50:01.was getting stale and needed something fresh. It should have been

:50:02. > :50:05.done for the sake of the stories, but not for political correctness.

:50:06. > :50:09.Men aren't being marginalised but we are being reduced and about time.

:50:10. > :50:14.Sydney says, people really upset at the new doctor as a woman? ! It's

:50:15. > :50:19.pathetic, grow up. What do you think about the fact Ben that Jodie

:50:20. > :50:24.Whittaker said in a statement, apart from being thrilled, delighted and

:50:25. > :50:30.overwhelmed, don't be scared of my gender? They shouldn't be scared of

:50:31. > :50:36.her gender, she's going to be playing the doctor, rather than the

:50:37. > :50:41.female doctor and it's exciting. There can't be any other way to

:50:42. > :50:49.describe it. But the fact that she put that in her statement? It means

:50:50. > :50:54.that people are still kind of hung up on the idea of gender. I think in

:50:55. > :50:58.the last couple of episodes, they've been hinting with clues that there

:50:59. > :51:02.is going to be a change and that it's swinging towards a female.

:51:03. > :51:05.There was a Q A rather than a statement but you know what I mean.

:51:06. > :51:13.OK, we'll look forward to it. Thank you very much all of you.

:51:14. > :51:18.Plenty more on this later in the programme. Get in touch with your

:51:19. > :51:24.own views. Next an American Doctor Who has offered to carry out a new

:51:25. > :51:30.therapy on the terminally ill baby Charlie Gard is due to meet the

:51:31. > :51:33.medical team today. He says there is a 10% chance the treatment could

:51:34. > :51:38.help the little boy. It's the latest development in this long-running

:51:39. > :51:40.legal battle between his parents and doctors at Great Ormond Street

:51:41. > :52:03.Hospital. You know, he wakes up,

:52:04. > :52:08.he enjoys his tickles, we lie next to him, he watches

:52:09. > :52:11.videos on the iPad So, you know, if he were suffering,

:52:12. > :52:24.I couldn't do it, I promise you. I can't, still, to this

:52:25. > :52:28.day, cannot get my head round when we took him into this

:52:29. > :52:30.hospital, they don't Like, there is somewhere

:52:31. > :52:34.out there that does. And they've basically just

:52:35. > :52:39.kept him a prisoner there. And, you know, our parental rights

:52:40. > :52:42.have been completely stripped The reality is that Charlie

:52:43. > :52:54.can't see, he can't hear, he can't move, he can't cry,

:52:55. > :52:57.he can't swallow. Immensely sadly, his condition

:52:58. > :53:09.is one that affords him no benefit. But they are slower

:53:10. > :53:15.than what they should be. You know, they're not

:53:16. > :53:29.normal for his age. I wouldn't be able to sit

:53:30. > :53:32.there and watch my son suffer or be in pain,

:53:33. > :53:34.I promise you that. There's a lot of people that say,

:53:35. > :53:52.oh, I couldn't do it, We will talk more about that in the

:53:53. > :53:56.next hour of the programme. In a few minutes, we'll bring you

:53:57. > :53:59.the latest news and sport, of course, and much more comments about

:54:00. > :54:04.the issues in the news today. Before all of that, let us bring you a

:54:05. > :54:09.weather update and here is Lucy Martin and it's her first day on our

:54:10. > :54:13.programme. Hello, welcome! Hello there, thank you Victoria.

:54:14. > :54:20.Some hot weather over the next few days. We'll see some blue skies.

:54:21. > :54:26.Beautiful photos sent in by some of our weather-watchers. There was

:54:27. > :54:30.plenty of blue skies around this morning, not a cloud in the sky.

:54:31. > :54:33.Good spells of sunshine and it will feel warm in the sunshine. For

:54:34. > :54:37.Northern Ireland and Scotland and parts of northern England, more in

:54:38. > :54:41.the way of cloud first thing this morning. That will thin and break

:54:42. > :54:47.and allow for some good spells of sunshine. The cloud becoming confine

:54:48. > :54:51.toed the far north of Scotland. Light drizzle possible there. A

:54:52. > :54:54.beautiful day today. Plenty of sunny spells around and plenty of

:54:55. > :54:58.brightness. A bit of high level cloud.

:54:59. > :55:04.For Wales and Northern Ireland, plenty of brightness too.

:55:05. > :55:09.For Scotland, plenty of brightness and sunshine here. Temperatures

:55:10. > :55:14.responding in the low 20s. Where we have got that cloud, the

:55:15. > :55:18.temperatures slightly clipped back. Through the evening, the far north

:55:19. > :55:22.of Scotland holds on to the cloud. It will become dry and there'll be

:55:23. > :55:26.clear skies for Northern Ireland and Scotland. More cloud pushes into the

:55:27. > :55:32.south-west into the early hours. It's a muggy night with overnight

:55:33. > :55:35.lows of between 11 and 18. For Tuesday, high pressure remains in

:55:36. > :55:39.charge but it starts to shift to the east, meaning we are going to drag

:55:40. > :55:41.in warmer air from the near continent.

:55:42. > :55:46.It will be a bright start to the day. The best of the sunshine across

:55:47. > :55:51.Northern Ireland and Scotland first thing. For Wales and the south-west,

:55:52. > :55:57.a bit more cloud first thing. Then we are beginning to thin and break

:55:58. > :56:03.it. The chance of thundery showers pushing south-west. Feeling really

:56:04. > :56:06.warm with highs of 29. It will be a touch cooler on the East Coast. As

:56:07. > :56:10.we go through Tuesday night, we'll start to see the showers creeping up

:56:11. > :56:19.towards the north. They'll become a little more heavy as we move into

:56:20. > :56:23.the early hours. Temperatures on Wednesday are going to be really

:56:24. > :56:29.warm so there is the chance for England and Wales to see some

:56:30. > :56:34.thundery showers. Starting in the east and gradually making their way

:56:35. > :56:37.to the west. Becoming fresher through Thursday and Friday. If you

:56:38. > :56:41.don't like it as warm, that will be a welcome relief for you. Slightly

:56:42. > :56:43.more changeable with a few outbreaks of rain. Some brightness as we move

:56:44. > :56:51.through the day today. Hello, it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock,

:56:52. > :57:08.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, We'll speak to the daughter of the

:57:09. > :57:10.puppy farm murder victim. He beat her, shot the doings. Then stood

:57:11. > :57:19.over her with that gun. (BLEEP) Absolute monster. We'll talk

:57:20. > :57:27.to Stacy in the next few minutes. The terminally ill man

:57:28. > :57:30.who will begin a High Court challenge this morning to challenge

:57:31. > :57:33.the ban on assisted dying. Noel Conway says he wants the right

:57:34. > :57:46.to die when his health I do not want to die very slowly of

:57:47. > :57:49.sufficiencation and being semi conscious until I'm in the position

:57:50. > :57:51.where, you know, I don't even know what's going on. Why should I have

:57:52. > :58:05.to do that? I know I'm going to die. Noel Conway has motor neurone

:58:06. > :58:19.disease. We'll hear from him later on. Also today: And the new Dr Who

:58:20. > :58:21.is a woman and some people aren't happy but Jodie Whittaker tells fans

:58:22. > :59:00.not to be scared of her gender. Karen on e-mail says, I knew she'd

:59:01. > :59:05.be slim, probably blonde and attractive. What a surprise, not a

:59:06. > :59:09.success for equality. Tina says I object to you stating that the

:59:10. > :59:13.opposition comes solely from men. Many women, myself included, are not

:59:14. > :59:16.happy about this, the inference that men who disapprove are being petty

:59:17. > :59:20.is another way for the feminist obsessed BBC to slur men. This role

:59:21. > :59:25.was created as a male character and should have remained so. George says

:59:26. > :59:29.brilliant to have Jodie Whittaker and being from Yorkshire, she'll be

:59:30. > :59:30.the best yet. Thank you for those. Keep them coming in.

:59:31. > :59:38.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:59:39. > :59:47.A terminally ill man will protest to overturn the laws so a doctor is

:59:48. > :59:50.allowed to help him die when his health deteriorates. Under the

:59:51. > :59:54.current law, any doctor that helped him would face up to 14 years in

:59:55. > :59:57.prison. Opponents say the change would put vulnerable people at risk.

:59:58. > :00:00.The rise in the number of acid attacks will be discussed in

:00:01. > :00:04.Parliament today. Latest figures suggest there were more than 400

:00:05. > :00:08.assaults involving corrosive substances in England and Wales in

:00:09. > :00:12.the since months to April. The debate comes as the Government

:00:13. > :00:14.begins a review into the issue which could see sentences for the offence

:00:15. > :00:18.increased. The Brexit Secretary David Davis has

:00:19. > :00:21.called for both sides to "get down to business" this morning

:00:22. > :00:24.as the next round of negotiating Mr Davis is meeting

:00:25. > :00:26.the European Commission's chief Key issues will include the future

:00:27. > :00:31.rights of EU citizens in the UK and British citizens living in other

:00:32. > :00:34.member states, A 20 year old man has been charged

:00:35. > :00:37.with drug offences by police investigating the death of a teenage

:00:38. > :00:39.girl in Newton Abbot The 15 year old was found

:00:40. > :00:43.unconscious at a park Devon and Cornwall Police have

:00:44. > :00:46.charged Jacob Khanlarian, from Newton Abbot with possession

:00:47. > :00:48.with intent to supply He is due to appear before

:00:49. > :00:54.magistrates in Plymouth later. The final route for

:00:55. > :00:56.the controversial HS2 rail line north of Birmingham will be

:00:57. > :00:59.announced today - There's also more detail on who has

:01:00. > :01:04.been awarded contracts worth nearly 7 billion pounds to work

:01:05. > :01:06.on the first stretch of the line - and information

:01:07. > :01:13.on around 16,000 jobs. An American neurologist who's

:01:14. > :01:16.offered to carry out a new therapy on the terminally ill baby

:01:17. > :01:18.Charlie Gard is due to meet He is also expected to examine

:01:19. > :01:22.Charlie over the next two days Great Ormond Street Hospital

:01:23. > :01:26.says his condition is irreversible. The High Court is

:01:27. > :01:31.considering his case. For the first time Doctor Who will

:01:32. > :01:35.be a woman, she's been unveiled as Jodie Whittaker but NOT everyone

:01:36. > :01:43.is happy about the change. The actress said she wanted to tell

:01:44. > :01:47.fans not to be scared by her gender. There has been mixed

:01:48. > :01:49.reaction in the newspapers and from commentators something men

:01:50. > :01:51.are being marginalised, others saying

:01:52. > :02:07.the change is long overdue. That's a summary of

:02:08. > :02:19.the latest BBC News. Mostly you want to talk about Doctor

:02:20. > :02:25.Who, but please, get in touch with us. But now, time for the sport.

:02:26. > :02:30.Thank you. Boris Becker says he expects Roger Federer to win more

:02:31. > :02:35.Grand Slams after claiming his 19th at Wimbledon, some weeks shy of his

:02:36. > :02:40.36th birthday. He won a record eighth Wimbledon title, beating

:02:41. > :02:45.Aaron Cilic in straight sets. Becker believes that taking time out is key

:02:46. > :02:50.to this success of the Swiss player. Six months off, he rescheduled all

:02:51. > :02:56.of this year, played the U.S. Open, winning the first major, he is back.

:02:57. > :03:00.Compare him to any athlete, he is right up there, you talk about

:03:01. > :03:04.Formula One, running, basketball, football, I don't think there's

:03:05. > :03:09.anyone like him at the moment. I don't know if he can get better but

:03:10. > :03:14.it is important, what to do the next couple of weeks. I am sure he will

:03:15. > :03:17.take some time off, but which tournament to pick? The way he plays

:03:18. > :03:22.at the moment there are more slams in the making. Jamie Murray admits

:03:23. > :03:28.he would have rejected any other partner apart from Martina Hingis

:03:29. > :03:32.after they won the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon. They have been

:03:33. > :03:36.playing together for long, only deciding to team up prior to the

:03:37. > :03:41.tournament. It's her sixth Wimbledon title in her career and Jamie Murray

:03:42. > :03:44.is second. Really happy that I contacted Jamie about playing

:03:45. > :03:50.together and pretty much, my wish came true to give ourselves a good

:03:51. > :03:54.chance to win the title and we did. It was a great two wigs were a Scot

:03:55. > :03:59.played a lot of great tennis, excited to win, huge achievement for

:04:00. > :04:06.us. -- it was a great two weeks for us. Johanna Konta is now fourth in

:04:07. > :04:09.the world after reaching the semifinals of Wimbledon before

:04:10. > :04:13.losing in straight sets. She was ranked seventh before the

:04:14. > :04:17.tournament, Andy Murray remaining world number one despite going out

:04:18. > :04:19.in the semifinals. England cricketers staring defeat in the

:04:20. > :04:26.face in the second test against South Africa are being set a target

:04:27. > :04:30.of 474 to win and if they chase it, it would be a world record Test

:04:31. > :04:35.match. Alastair Cook and kid in Jennings resuming on one without

:04:36. > :04:39.loss, enduring a tricky four overs yesterday. England will have to bat

:04:40. > :04:45.for two days if they are to avoid defeat. Today is a rest day in the

:04:46. > :04:49.Tour de France, Chris Froome enjoy including his feet up, overcoming

:04:50. > :04:54.mechanical issues to retain his 18 seconds lead after stage 15 despite

:04:55. > :04:57.a dramatic afternoon. He had to change a wheel and deal with the

:04:58. > :05:07.hostile doing home fans, recovered brilliantly, no for near the 189

:05:08. > :05:14.points five colour meter stage win. Freedom retained the yellow jersey.

:05:15. > :05:21.Aids Day for the world Para athletics Championships, Britain

:05:22. > :05:23.holding eight old medals. Jonnie Peacock picking up his eighth in the

:05:24. > :05:42.T 44. -- it is the eighth day. I know I was in good form but I

:05:43. > :05:47.don't care about times, I never do. It would be a great cherry on top of

:05:48. > :05:52.the icing, people care about medals, that's what I'm going to be able to

:05:53. > :05:57.keep for ever. That's all for now. Victoria, back to you.

:05:58. > :06:00.This morning, a woman whose sister and mother were shot

:06:01. > :06:02.by her stepfather at the family farm in Surrey tells this programme

:06:03. > :06:05.why she wanted to visit the scene of their deaths.

:06:06. > :06:07.82-year-old John Lowe murdered his wife Christine

:06:08. > :06:12.and step-daughter Lucy Lee along with four puppies in 2014.

:06:13. > :06:15.Police had returned his shotguns to him before he murdered them.

:06:16. > :06:18.Christine Lee's other daughter was at her family

:06:19. > :06:24.She was arrested after the deaths, and now an Independent Police

:06:25. > :06:27.Complains Commission review has found misconduct claims against one

:06:28. > :06:30.Surrey Police sergeant involved in the case,

:06:31. > :06:33.but two other detectives have been cleared.

:06:34. > :06:36.Almost three years after the murders, Stacy wanted to revisit

:06:37. > :06:39.the scene where her family was killed, and asked us

:06:40. > :06:44.During the visit she gets very upset, but was

:06:45. > :06:47.We bought you Noel Phillips' full report earlier.

:06:48. > :07:05.You know, it's almost like expecting something to happen.

:07:06. > :07:16.For the first time in three years, Stacy Banner has returned

:07:17. > :07:20.to the family farm near Farnham in Surrey, where her sister, Lucy,

:07:21. > :07:24.and her mum, Christine, were shot dead in 2014 by this man -

:07:25. > :07:32.It brings back so many terrible memories.

:07:33. > :07:49.To see if there was anything that reminded me of them.

:07:50. > :08:03.A year before the killings, in March 2013, John Lowe's seven

:08:04. > :08:06.shotguns were seized by Surrey Police following

:08:07. > :08:13.But five months later, the guns and his licence were returned.

:08:14. > :08:16.And in February 2014, Christine, who had known Lowe

:08:17. > :08:20.for more than 25 years, was shot at point-blank range.

:08:21. > :08:23.Her daughter, Lucy, escaped, and made a frantic 999 call before

:08:24. > :08:38.Stacy's account of what happened that there is very distressing.

:08:39. > :08:40.Stacy's account of what happened that day is very distressing.

:08:41. > :08:47.And I keep thinking, you know, she should have hid.

:08:48. > :09:03.So then he beat her, shot the dogs...

:09:04. > :09:13.And then stood over her with that gun.

:09:14. > :09:19.He couldn't let me have her, you see, he couldn't let me have her.

:09:20. > :09:28.Now, Surrey Police had records of John Lowe's violent history.

:09:29. > :09:30.He had made repeated threats to kill, and even lied

:09:31. > :09:38.But yet he was still given a licence to hold a gun.

:09:39. > :09:42.As soon as the murders happened, we got an independent police forces

:09:43. > :09:49.So I'm confident that the firearms licence is now fit for purpose,

:09:50. > :10:02.The tragedy should never have happened.

:10:03. > :10:05.Christine and Lucy's murders offer a rare glimpse

:10:06. > :10:07.into a tragic crime, and the impact on the

:10:08. > :10:20.Just last week, a Surrey Police detective involved in the case

:10:21. > :10:25.was found guilty of misconduct after arresting Stacey in 2014.

:10:26. > :10:31.Meanwhile, two other detectives were cleared.

:10:32. > :10:37.We can speak now to Stacy Banner now.

:10:38. > :10:42.Good morning and thank you for coming on the programme. Good

:10:43. > :10:47.morning. I wonder if you could tell the audience what impact going back

:10:48. > :10:51.there has had on you. It has put some closure on it, it's made me

:10:52. > :10:55.feel there is nothing there, you know, my mum and sister aren't there

:10:56. > :11:00.any more, it hasn't changed, it's incredibly scary for me to go back

:11:01. > :11:06.but it has put some closure on that, not completely, but some. How would

:11:07. > :11:11.you like to remember your mum and your sister? I think it's incredibly

:11:12. > :11:18.important that people are aware of domestic violence and not to be

:11:19. > :11:24.scared to speak out. You know, regardless of age or culture, your

:11:25. > :11:29.background, you have to do something about it, you have to take direct

:11:30. > :11:36.action. Or you could be sitting as I am today, morning the death of

:11:37. > :11:40.someone you love. I'm very lucky to be alive because he would have

:11:41. > :11:47.killed me so I'm fortunate in that aspect. But in a way you would want

:11:48. > :11:53.that to be their legacy? I wanted to be the legacy and I want people to

:11:54. > :12:01.be able to have the access to justice and not be scared because in

:12:02. > :12:07.my situation, you know, I haven't, I was treated as the perpetrator

:12:08. > :12:14.rather than the victim. So the comparison between John Lowe and I

:12:15. > :12:20.was awful. And by that you mean, after the murder of your mum and

:12:21. > :12:28.sister, you were arrested, you were held in the same police station as

:12:29. > :12:33.John Lowe? Yes. For 23 hours. And I can remember it and I can remember

:12:34. > :12:38.sitting in the self thinking, was he in the cell? Was he in the cell and

:12:39. > :12:44.now I can't be in small spaces, it absolutely... It fills me with utter

:12:45. > :12:51.panic, you have to remember, this was all for ATV. Threats that didn't

:12:52. > :12:54.happen. So the audience know you were arrested on suspicion of theft

:12:55. > :12:59.and questioned over allegation she wanted to burn down the farm? Yes,

:13:00. > :13:06.which weren't true and you know, ironically, no investigation has

:13:07. > :13:10.carried on from that, so... I was treated as a perpetrator, Surrey

:13:11. > :13:18.Police have been relentless in pursuing me. The misconduct hearing

:13:19. > :13:23.as Noel said in the film last week, the officer who arrested you did not

:13:24. > :13:26.have sufficient evidence to suspect you of the offence for which he

:13:27. > :13:29.arrested you and failed to ensure relevant witness statements were

:13:30. > :13:38.taken before deciding you should be arrested. What do you think of that?

:13:39. > :13:42.I think that detect it should investigate, I think the police

:13:43. > :13:52.should have evidence before they have the power to arrest anybody.

:13:53. > :13:59.Especially... How vulnerable I was. I hadn't eaten, I don't drive, there

:14:00. > :14:04.was no evidence. I mean, I am sure people will appreciate that saying

:14:05. > :14:13.that you want some work to burn down doesn't mean you are going to do it.

:14:14. > :14:17.It's completely... I was an absolute trauma and grief and the fact of the

:14:18. > :14:23.matter was, it wasn't investigated, it was persecution. You had

:14:24. > :14:26.previously been investigated for fraud, you are appealing against

:14:27. > :14:30.that conviction, do you think that played a part in perhaps the way

:14:31. > :14:37.they viewed you are approached you? I think the fraud as part of this, I

:14:38. > :14:41.am determined to obtain justice, it might take me another three years, I

:14:42. > :14:47.don't know but I have to do that for my mum and sister. Again, another

:14:48. > :14:51.thing I reported, again, everything else like I reported, never got

:14:52. > :14:58.taken seriously which is incredibly sad. Because my mum and sister would

:14:59. > :15:05.be here. How did you find out what had happened to your mum and sister?

:15:06. > :15:13.It was Sky News, actually. The family liaison officer is came to my

:15:14. > :15:17.home, and it was in the afternoon, I had cooked Sunday dinner, they came

:15:18. > :15:24.in, and told me two women had been found at the farm and that there was

:15:25. > :15:30.a male in custody. I knew he had killed them. You said that, didn't

:15:31. > :15:37.you? Yes, I knew, I knew he had killed them. And then I passed out.

:15:38. > :15:43.And then it was hours and hours because I was expecting a family

:15:44. > :15:48.liaison officer and no one came. So at 5:15pm I got my husband to take

:15:49. > :15:56.me to the farm and it was just full of police, she can imagine. And

:15:57. > :16:00.their bodies were still there. My beautiful sister, my mum, their

:16:01. > :16:04.bodies were still there and they told me to go to Guildford station

:16:05. > :16:10.and even then, it was like I was treated in a way that no victim

:16:11. > :16:18.should be treated. They knew, they were fully aware of what exactly he

:16:19. > :16:23.was capable of so, I wasn't told, I found out on Sky News.

:16:24. > :16:28.You mentioned at the beginning of our conversation that you want

:16:29. > :16:32.people to have access to justice, that it's very important that if you

:16:33. > :16:36.are in a domestic abuse situation, it's very important that you speak

:16:37. > :16:48.out. Tell us more about what you mean by that? Unfortunately, victims

:16:49. > :16:56.of domestic violence and historic violence are treated with almost

:16:57. > :17:01.contempt. It's like "John Lowe couldn't do that, he's an old man. "

:17:02. > :17:05.He was violent. The violence went back years, he was a violent man.

:17:06. > :17:12.There are different degrees of violence. As a victim, I compared

:17:13. > :17:18.trauma. I want access for justice for anyone that is in a domestic

:17:19. > :17:25.violent situation that feels they can actually take on the police or

:17:26. > :17:30.take on the establishment it takes a lot of time and you have to have a

:17:31. > :17:34.lot of patience. But eventually, your name can be blackened. You

:17:35. > :17:39.know, you can feel like the perpetrator. But eventually, the

:17:40. > :17:46.truth comes out and it takes a long time and it's incredibly hard. You

:17:47. > :17:51.have to be very strong. A previous IPCC report found some failings with

:17:52. > :17:55.the police, including criticism of their decision to hand the guns back

:17:56. > :17:58.to John Lowe after you'd warned them, raised the alarm. Is there

:17:59. > :18:04.anything that you want to change or would like to see changed in terms

:18:05. > :18:12.of the gun laws? Gun laws in this country are incredibly tight.

:18:13. > :18:16.However, the shotgun fee is minimal and the taxpayer pays for people to

:18:17. > :18:21.have guns. Do I agree with that? Of course not. The fact of the matter

:18:22. > :18:28.is, you know, with guns, there needs to be a complete change in the way

:18:29. > :18:37.we look at guns. It's not acceptable for any police to hand back guns to

:18:38. > :18:42.anyone, especially not psychopaths. You've talked about your mum and

:18:43. > :18:47.sister's legacy, what you hope the legacy will be. Tell us a bit about

:18:48. > :18:52.the both of them? My sister was incredibly clever, she was a graphic

:18:53. > :18:54.designer, she was beautiful, absolutely beautiful and I'm

:18:55. > :19:05.incredibly proud of her. We had a very bad childhood so she survived

:19:06. > :19:11.that and she was a real fighter. My mum was very funny actually. She

:19:12. > :19:16.sometimes saw, you know... We'd had a hard life so she saw the good in

:19:17. > :19:22.life and that's what I'm still trying to do, however difficult.

:19:23. > :19:26.Thank you very much, Stacy. Absolute pleasure, thank you so much.

:19:27. > :19:30.Thank you for talking to us. Speaking after the initial IPCC

:19:31. > :19:33.report was published, Surrey Police said in 2014 the force commissioned

:19:34. > :19:37.two independent reports from Hampshire and North Yorkshire police

:19:38. > :19:40.which indicated the decision by firearms licencing officers to

:19:41. > :19:45.return weapons to John Lowe was flawed and did not meet national

:19:46. > :19:49.standards. We spoke with members of Christine and Lucy's family at that

:19:50. > :19:53.time to advise them of the findings and to apologise for that decision.

:19:54. > :19:58.As a result of those reports, we conduct add comprehensive review of

:19:59. > :20:01.the firearms licencing in the years since 2014 and instigated the

:20:02. > :20:05.recommendations from both independent reports.

:20:06. > :20:17.We'll be live at Wimbledon to speak to the winner of the tournament,

:20:18. > :20:22.Roger Federer. That is in about 20 minutes' time. More Brexit talks

:20:23. > :20:25.today with David Davis, the Brexit secretary urging both sides in

:20:26. > :20:30.negotiations to get down to business. A second formal round of

:20:31. > :20:36.talks opens in Brussels this morning. Mr Davies says his priority

:20:37. > :20:41.is to lift the uncertainty for EU citizens living here and British

:20:42. > :20:46.nationals in EU countries. In a moment, we'll talk to Conservative

:20:47. > :20:52.MP quasi Kwateng, who was a leave campaigner, and still is, but first,

:20:53. > :20:56.let's talk to Sir Andrew Khan, a former senior civil servant and

:20:57. > :21:00.former head of UK trade and investment, that's a Government

:21:01. > :21:04.department aiming to increase the number of exporters and investors to

:21:05. > :21:09.the UK and hopefully someone who can give us an insight as to how the

:21:10. > :21:13.negotiations are going to work. Hello, thank you very much for

:21:14. > :21:18.talking to us. Hello. You are expert in those negotiations, I'm told.

:21:19. > :21:22.Give the audience an insight then in what the UK needs to do to make them

:21:23. > :21:29.progress smoothly and reasonably swiftly? Well, I think what the UK

:21:30. > :21:35.needs to do is to do what the EU 27, the Europeans have already done,

:21:36. > :21:39.which is to be very cleaver about what our objectives are, very clear

:21:40. > :21:45.about what the law is, and very clear about the process. The EU side

:21:46. > :21:50.have done all of that. Now, it's easier for them because they're

:21:51. > :21:58.united. The strength of the negotiating cards are in their hands

:21:59. > :22:02.and the cliff edge is far worse for us than for them so if we don't

:22:03. > :22:07.reach agreement it's worse for us than for them. However, the problem

:22:08. > :22:10.in the UK on ourside, is that we just don't have agreement in this

:22:11. > :22:17.country about what we are going for. Are we going for some of the

:22:18. > :22:21.minister Euro-sceptics and what they want, which is reject everything and

:22:22. > :22:27.walk away, don't give them any money. Do we go the other extreme

:22:28. > :22:30.which some remainers say, which is a disaster, we mustn't do this. There

:22:31. > :22:35.is a whole spectre of opinion in-between, in particular the soft

:22:36. > :22:39.Brexiteers, the people who say look for business, jobs, prosperity, we

:22:40. > :22:44.must be part of the single market and must have good access to it. The

:22:45. > :22:47.hard Brexiteers say no, no, don't worry, we can find alternative

:22:48. > :22:55.markets elsewhere. The most important thing for us is to decide

:22:56. > :22:59.what we want, what our negotiating objectives are, to work out the

:23:00. > :23:03.negotiating realities, you know, where does the power lie, and then

:23:04. > :23:09.look at each of the individual areas of problem and there are 40 or 50 or

:23:10. > :23:13.60, I mean it's a very complicated difficult negotiation. Work out what

:23:14. > :23:18.the priorities are, what is the most thing thing that you must have and

:23:19. > :23:25.what can you give away. That is how you appreciate the negotiation. Yes.

:23:26. > :23:34.Do you think David Davis will have a clear plan? Well, I think he

:23:35. > :23:38.probably does. But it's not clear that the Government has a clear

:23:39. > :23:42.plan. The Government itself is divided. You have Philip Hammond,

:23:43. > :23:47.the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who has to think about money, think

:23:48. > :23:52.about tax receipts, think about business, think about jobs and

:23:53. > :23:56.employment. He is saying, we can't afford to follow the lines that

:23:57. > :24:01.Theresa May set out in her Lancaster House speech in January, you know,

:24:02. > :24:07.the red line she set out, no European Court of Justice, no free

:24:08. > :24:11.movement, no money paid to Europe. On the one hand, you have him. On

:24:12. > :24:14.the other hand, you have Liam Fox in effect saying, let's just escape,

:24:15. > :24:21.let's just go. So the Government is divided. Now, David Davis is of

:24:22. > :24:24.course, he and his civil servants have done a huge amount of

:24:25. > :24:29.preparation, very professional, but they don't have a clear Government

:24:30. > :24:33.policy. Until we have that, we can't negotiate properly and sensibly. OK.

:24:34. > :24:36.Just to let you know, we may interrupt because Roger Federer is

:24:37. > :24:39.going to give a live interview at Wimbledon any moment I'm told so I'm

:24:40. > :24:43.going to apologise in advance. Don't worry.

:24:44. > :24:49.I'm not worried actually, I was just letting you know.

:24:50. > :24:53.This week they are going to talk about the rights of EU citizens and

:24:54. > :24:56.nationals abroad, they are going to talk about the liabilities, the bill

:24:57. > :25:04.the UK has to pay, that has to be done swiftly in order to move on to

:25:05. > :25:07.other stuff. Does the UK in your opinion have any cards up its

:25:08. > :25:12.sleeve? Yes, of course we have cards up our sleeve. What? We are not

:25:13. > :25:18.without cards. But we don't have as many cards as the European side

:25:19. > :25:24.does. It's whistling in the wind, to quote something. , to pretend that

:25:25. > :25:28.we do. But of course we do. For one thing, the Europeans need our money.

:25:29. > :25:35.We have been a major contributor to the budget. Indeed, in my 40 years

:25:36. > :25:39.of negotiating in Europe, the biggest issue has always been money

:25:40. > :25:44.and, in my view, the biggest issue in this negotiation will in the end

:25:45. > :25:49.be money. So we have the money, they want us to continue to pay in if per

:25:50. > :25:55.prepared to, we'll get more access. In the end, the negotiation will be

:25:56. > :26:00.access to the markets, you know, for our goods and services, in return

:26:01. > :26:05.for money. So we do have that on our side. Sorry to interrupt, but you

:26:06. > :26:09.are suggesting, not just will there be this divorce bill, as it's being

:26:10. > :26:13.described by some, but you are saying we could continue to pay in

:26:14. > :26:17.in order to get access to the single market? Of course we will, the

:26:18. > :26:24.Government's said so. The Government's said there are some

:26:25. > :26:29.things we really want. For example, the programme about universities,

:26:30. > :26:33.the research programme which is the R D programme, the Government's

:26:34. > :26:37.said we can see ourselves paying in future to be part of these

:26:38. > :26:42.programmes. That's natural, you know. There are bound to be some

:26:43. > :26:47.things that we want to work closely with with our closest neighbours in

:26:48. > :26:50.the future. If you have a big project, everybody's got to

:26:51. > :26:54.contribute to it. I don't think there's anything surprising about us

:26:55. > :26:58.paying. The argument will be first of all what's the bill for the past

:26:59. > :27:02.and, you know, you can argue in lots of different ways and the Europeans

:27:03. > :27:06.are putting huge numbers on the table, we are putting small numbers

:27:07. > :27:11.and we'll find an agreement in the middle. That's what always happens

:27:12. > :27:14.in the negotiations. The difficulty is, we need to know how much access

:27:15. > :27:18.we want of the single market and how much we are prepared to pay for

:27:19. > :27:22.that. It's that which I think we still, as a Government, don't know.

:27:23. > :27:28.We haven't decided. OK. Thank you very much. Sir Andrew Cahn, former

:27:29. > :27:33.head of UK trade and investment, the Government department which aims to

:27:34. > :27:40.increase the number of exporters and investors to the UK and spent many

:27:41. > :27:45.years negotiating. Quasi Kwateng is here. Hello. What sort of bill would

:27:46. > :27:52.be acceptable for the UK to pay? Clearly not the ?100 billion that

:27:53. > :27:57.has often been said. The negotiations are starting today. I

:27:58. > :28:00.think that we'll pay something. People are talking about

:28:01. > :28:06.transitional arrangements, maybe two or three years, who knows how long,

:28:07. > :28:11.but it will be a phased withdrawal. But in terms of the bill you say not

:28:12. > :28:15.100? No. Why not? It's too large. If you look at where we were when we

:28:16. > :28:20.were in it, and we are still in it actually, we are the second net

:28:21. > :28:24.contributor, we are putting in 10 billion euros a year and it doesn't

:28:25. > :28:27.make sense if we are the second biggest contributor to pay an

:28:28. > :28:31.exorbitant amount of money just to get out of the club. I don't think

:28:32. > :28:37.that makes much sense. We have already contributed a huge amount.

:28:38. > :28:42.Is it not simple maths, whatever our liability is, that is what it will

:28:43. > :28:46.be? It's not as simple as that. The investment bank has assets and we

:28:47. > :28:50.have contributed a lot into that. There are assets on the other side,

:28:51. > :28:55.there are not just liabilities. Would you welcome something that Sir

:28:56. > :28:59.Andrew Cahn suggested there, which is we continue to pay in order to

:29:00. > :29:03.get better access into the single market? That's what the negotiation

:29:04. > :29:07.is about. Would you welcome that? My view is I can live with the

:29:08. > :29:13.transitional arrangements but at the end of the process, I want to be

:29:14. > :29:17.out. Pay them nothing? I don't think we should pay anything because the

:29:18. > :29:22.EU is going down a different path, we have chosen not to go down that

:29:23. > :29:26.and we should be free to leave it. That's part of the discussion. The

:29:27. > :29:30.rationale as you know would be in order to continue to have, or to

:29:31. > :29:36.have better access to the single market or the sames a Cesc, would it

:29:37. > :29:43.not be worth it? It's a simple proposition, you are either in it or

:29:44. > :29:50.out of it. Once you are out of it. There is no sense in which they are

:29:51. > :29:53.paying a continuing fee to be kind of quasi or associate members. How

:29:54. > :29:56.worried are you about the collapse in discipline within the Cabinet

:29:57. > :30:01.since the general election? Look, I've been in politics for a few

:30:02. > :30:05.years now and I know in the summer there are lots of garden-party type

:30:06. > :30:08.events... Philip Hammond talked yesterday about the briefing against

:30:09. > :30:14.him, so it's not just garden parties is it? He also mentioned the

:30:15. > :30:18.Prosecco and it's the height of the summer. He said people are against

:30:19. > :30:21.him. How worried are you about that? Not desperately because the

:30:22. > :30:26.Government has a clear direction in terms of getting out of the EU... Do

:30:27. > :30:30.you? I think it does. There are so many different opinions around that

:30:31. > :30:34.Cabinet table? Not that many. I work very closely with Philip Hammond. We

:30:35. > :30:38.were on two different sides of the debate but actually talking to him,

:30:39. > :30:44.we have lots of shared ground. We want to leave the EU, we want to

:30:45. > :30:47.deliver on Brexit. There is an issue in terms of the potential

:30:48. > :30:50.transitional deal. Why are colleagues briefing against him? You

:30:51. > :30:56.will have to ask them. I don't know. I read the papers like you do, I

:30:57. > :30:59.think people... You don't hear it as his ministerial aid, considering

:31:00. > :31:03.that you are on opposite sides of the debate, you don't hear that? I

:31:04. > :31:07.have my own views as to how these stories get through and I read the

:31:08. > :31:12.papers but I don't feel they're particularly representative.

:31:13. > :31:17.Do you expect a leadership challenge to Theresa May before March 2019,

:31:18. > :31:25.the two-year deadline for when we are supposed to be out?

:31:26. > :31:31.I really don't. I think most MPs want to get through the Brexit

:31:32. > :31:35.process before we think about trying to replace the leader have a

:31:36. > :31:42.leadership contest. Thank you very much. Thank you. Still to come, an

:31:43. > :31:44.American doctor who has offered to carry out a new type of treatment on

:31:45. > :32:04.Charlie card. And we get more on Doctor who, as

:32:05. > :32:09.people debate the lead role being given to a woman. Time for the

:32:10. > :32:13.latest news headlines. A terminally ill man will begin a legal challenge

:32:14. > :32:17.to overturn the ban on so-called assisted dying. Noel Conway who has

:32:18. > :32:21.motor neuron disease wants to change the law in England and Wales saw a

:32:22. > :32:24.doctor is allowed to help them die but his condition deteriorates. On

:32:25. > :32:28.the current law any doctor who helped him would face 14 years in

:32:29. > :32:32.prison. Opponents say the change would put honourable people at risk.

:32:33. > :32:35.The rise in borough of acid attacks will be discussed in Parliament

:32:36. > :32:39.today, latest figures suggesting there were more than 400 assaults

:32:40. > :32:43.involving corrosive substances in England and Wales and the six months

:32:44. > :32:46.to April. The debate comes as the government begins a review into the

:32:47. > :32:53.issue which could see sentences for the offence increase. A 20-year-old

:32:54. > :32:59.man has been charged with drug offences in the case of a girl dying

:33:00. > :33:03.in Newton Abbott at the weekend. She was found unconscious in a park.

:33:04. > :33:07.Devon and Cornwall Police have charged a Newton Abbott man with

:33:08. > :33:12.possession with intent to supply a class a drug, he is due to appear

:33:13. > :33:18.before magistrates in plus later. As the latest news. Join me for BBC

:33:19. > :33:23.newsroom live at 11am. Here's the sport. Three-time Wimbledon champion

:33:24. > :33:26.Boris Becker expects even more from Roger Federer after the Swiss player

:33:27. > :33:31.claimed his 19th grand slam title. Becker believes taking time out is

:33:32. > :33:34.the key to his success, the dad of Ford beading Marian Cilic in

:33:35. > :33:39.straight sets to win a record eighth and open singles title. New world

:33:40. > :33:45.rankings are out this morning, Johanna Konta has risen to fourth in

:33:46. > :33:48.the world, becoming the first British woman to reach the

:33:49. > :33:52.semifinals for 39 years, Andy Murray remaining the world number one. In

:33:53. > :33:55.cricket England star player at 11am this morning on the fourth day of

:33:56. > :34:02.the second test against South Africa. A huge job of chasing 474 to

:34:03. > :34:04.avoid defeat at Trent Bridge. A resume on 1-0. That's all from us.

:34:05. > :34:08.Thank you. An American doctor who's offered

:34:09. > :34:10.to carry out a new therapy on the terminally ill baby

:34:11. > :34:13.Charlie Gard is due to meet the child's medical

:34:14. > :34:15.team in London today. Michio Hirano says there's a 10%

:34:16. > :34:17.chance his treatment could help. It's the latest development

:34:18. > :34:19.in a long-running legal battle between his parents

:34:20. > :34:26.and hospital doctors. Let's get more insight into

:34:27. > :34:29.what the family can expect today. Let's speak to Professor Julian

:34:30. > :34:45.Savulescu, Chair in Practical Ethics Good morning. Hello. In terms of the

:34:46. > :34:48.America will neurologist who will have access to Charlie and his

:34:49. > :34:54.medical notes, what will be his priority? His his priority is to

:34:55. > :34:58.evaluate how much to Terry oration there has been in Turleigh's brain

:34:59. > :35:01.since January when he estimated the chances were low but not zero of

:35:02. > :35:06.experimental treatment having some benefit. He will be looking at the

:35:07. > :35:13.brain scans, recent brain scans, requesting a new one. The evidence

:35:14. > :35:17.from the EE gramss and other clinical tests to evaluate what

:35:18. > :35:24.element is a reversible and what scope there is for reversibility.

:35:25. > :35:29.And the brain seizure that Charlie has been having, what do they point

:35:30. > :35:35.to, what with that suggest to you? There is no doubt that Charlie's

:35:36. > :35:42.brain is involved and his brain has been starved of energy for 11 months

:35:43. > :35:48.now. The abnormal electrical activity is indicative of that, in

:35:49. > :35:54.January the doctor felt the level of abnormal electrical activity was not

:35:55. > :36:00.so great there wasn't the possibility of some improvement.

:36:01. > :36:04.Electrical activity can normalise, it will depend on how much

:36:05. > :36:07.deterioration has been and whether there is any chance, or whether

:36:08. > :36:17.there is no chance. OK, thank you for your time. This statement from

:36:18. > :36:20.Great Ormond Street Hospital... The medical director will formally

:36:21. > :36:26.receive two visiting positions to review clinical data in the case

:36:27. > :36:29.today. They will have an honorary contract in place which allows them

:36:30. > :36:33.to examine the patient for the purposes of this visit, adding them

:36:34. > :36:37.the same status as our clinicians and allowing them access to all

:36:38. > :36:40.clinical Systems including diagnostic images, records and

:36:41. > :36:44.facilities. Clinical staff will be on hand to facilitate the visit and

:36:45. > :36:48.will have the opportunity to clinically examined Charlie.

:36:49. > :36:52.Next, we can speak to the cyclist who stole her bike back from a man

:36:53. > :36:54.selling it on a street corner the day after someone

:36:55. > :36:57.30-year-old Jenni Morton-Humphrey ignored police advice,

:36:58. > :37:12.Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm very well thank you. Tell the audience

:37:13. > :37:16.what happened. A few weeks ago someone took my bike, I was very

:37:17. > :37:18.angry as you might imagine and I happened to see it was on the

:37:19. > :37:25.Internet, someone messaged me because they had seen it for sale,

:37:26. > :37:30.someone had stolen, I put the picture, within minutes I got a

:37:31. > :37:37.response a total stranger. And help me out, messaging a guy and I posed

:37:38. > :37:41.as a buyer, didn't go to work the next day and went and took it,

:37:42. > :37:46.pretty much. It was a bit more than that. You met him, you chatted, you

:37:47. > :37:53.did the pleasantries and then, what did you do? I've seen him across the

:37:54. > :37:59.street, is often and I thought OK, I'll the friendly, be nice, ask a

:38:00. > :38:03.couple of stupid questions, is at a girls by, the right size, don't know

:38:04. > :38:08.if I can ride it. I was pretty nervous but I think he believed

:38:09. > :38:11.everything I was saying and I said, OK, I'm going to take it for a test

:38:12. > :38:16.ride and I thought about it the night before. I had a bunch of old

:38:17. > :38:21.keys which were strangely enough the keys to the locks they had cut off

:38:22. > :38:26.my bike the night before so I thrust those into his hand and said, can

:38:27. > :38:31.you oldies, I am going to ride it? He took the keys, I wobbled down the

:38:32. > :38:36.pavement, fell off a couple of times to make it realistic and then off I

:38:37. > :38:42.went. And he pedalled like the wind, did you? I really did. Faster than I

:38:43. > :38:47.ever have before for quite a long time. I didn't look back on what I

:38:48. > :38:51.just kept going. Eventually I found my way back to a meeting spot I had

:38:52. > :38:56.arranged with my friend who was watching the entire thing. Yes, it

:38:57. > :39:00.was a lot of adrenaline, definitely. Let's talk about the safety side,

:39:01. > :39:04.you informed the police, you said this is what I'm going to do, I

:39:05. > :39:08.think they advised against it, why would you so determined because it

:39:09. > :39:13.could have been dangerous? It could have been, but you know, anyone that

:39:14. > :39:18.owns a bike knows how I felt, I was so angry, someone had my bike which

:39:19. > :39:22.I love, I phoned the police, I gave them quite a lot of evidence, we had

:39:23. > :39:26.a number of screenshots from conversations between the person who

:39:27. > :39:33.saw the sale online and the guy who presumably had stolen it. I did

:39:34. > :39:36.consider it might be dangerous but I was quite confident that I could

:39:37. > :39:44.pull it off, basically. And you did and there is resplendent bike behind

:39:45. > :39:49.you. Right here, very happy. Thank you very much, thanks for coming on

:39:50. > :39:53.the programme. You're very welcome. Take care. We did ask Avon and

:39:54. > :39:54.Somerset Police for a comment but they were unable to get us anything

:39:55. > :40:02.in time. Don't mess with that lady. A terminally ill man will today

:40:03. > :40:05.begin a legal challenge to overturn the ban on so-called assisted

:40:06. > :40:07.dying. Noel Conway, who has motor neurone disease,

:40:08. > :40:10.wants to change the law in England and Wales so a doctor

:40:11. > :40:12.is allowed to help him die Under the current law,

:40:13. > :40:16.any doctor who helped him would face Opponents say the change would put

:40:17. > :40:27.vulnerable people at risk. Noel explains why he's taking his

:40:28. > :40:32.case to Court. I'm on a ventilator 20 hours out of 24 and it allows me

:40:33. > :40:41.some quality of life, as I have said. But increasingly I'm coming to

:40:42. > :40:44.rely on that ventilator so there will come a stage when I've got it

:40:45. > :40:52.on permanently. That's going to be problematic. Both, not so much for

:40:53. > :41:02.communication because I can use different masks, whilst I've still

:41:03. > :41:07.got my voice, but there are a number of lines that you contemplate when

:41:08. > :41:12.you are terminally ill, you never know which one is going to be the

:41:13. > :41:18.real one. But one of them for me is being bedridden and not being able

:41:19. > :41:25.to move, I do not want to die very slowly, of suffocation, and being

:41:26. > :41:31.semiconscious until I am in a position where I don't even know

:41:32. > :41:35.what's going on. For some people, they say, that is good palliative

:41:36. > :41:41.care, well, I am sorry, that is just not an acceptable option for me. My

:41:42. > :41:45.consultant cannot tell me how long it'll take. No one can. It be days,

:41:46. > :41:58.it could be weeks, it could be longer. I am going to be left in a

:41:59. > :42:09.situation at some stage, when I can't face, I can't face that amount

:42:10. > :42:19.of suffering. But actually being, you know, locked in my own body. Or

:42:20. > :42:23.facing a slow, suffocating death, drifting off into semiconsciousness.

:42:24. > :42:32.Why should I have to do that? I know I'm going to die. I want to be like

:42:33. > :42:38.David, Hume, the great nationalised, he said keep your energy, I reject

:42:39. > :42:46.it, I want to be absolutely conscious at the moment of my death.

:42:47. > :42:50.Let's talk to Lord Faulkner who tried to introduce an assisted bank

:42:51. > :42:54.bill as a Private Members' Bill in the House of Lords which was

:42:55. > :43:00.defeated in 2015, is that correct? Correct. You are a supporter of

:43:01. > :43:04.changing the law, you would like to see assisted dying in cases like

:43:05. > :43:08.this, quite a narrow group people, why? Because I think extremely

:43:09. > :43:14.unfair that you shouldn't be to choose how you die once you are

:43:15. > :43:17.already dying. What my bill proposed was that if you have a diagnosis of

:43:18. > :43:21.six months or less to live you should be entitled to have a doctor

:43:22. > :43:25.prescribed to you a prescription for which you take which would then end

:43:26. > :43:29.your life. There are many people who get real benefit from palliative

:43:30. > :43:34.care but there are always people who are however good the palliative

:43:35. > :43:37.care, don't want the indignity of dying after they have said their

:43:38. > :43:43.goodbyes, just holding on from day to day, facing the sort of fate that

:43:44. > :43:47.Noel has just described on the piece you've just shown, which is the only

:43:48. > :43:53.way that he can determine his own death is be taken off the ventilator

:43:54. > :43:56.and then he will effectively drown because his heart and be able to

:43:57. > :44:01.function properly. That's cruel, he should be allowed to choose this

:44:02. > :44:06.moment and do it in his own way once he is dying. There have been a

:44:07. > :44:12.number of similar cases, not many, but each time, Roddy speaking, the

:44:13. > :44:17.outcome is the same, judges said this is a decision for Parliament,

:44:18. > :44:21.Parliament has voted, has spoken. Parliament spoke in 2015 for they

:44:22. > :44:25.rejected in the Commons a Private Members' Bill very much like the one

:44:26. > :44:28.I proposed in the Lords, the Lords never reject the bid it felt through

:44:29. > :44:31.the general election coming and there was no time but what the

:44:32. > :44:34.courts said is we don't want to intervene as Parliament is debating

:44:35. > :44:38.it, Parliament is no longer debating it, for Parliament does is express

:44:39. > :44:42.the democratic will of the majority, but the judges do is determine that

:44:43. > :44:46.minority interests are protected and everybody has equal treatment for

:44:47. > :44:51.the law and they are guided in that either Human Rights Act. The last

:44:52. > :44:55.time it came before the courts, the Supreme Court said Robert Lee by

:44:56. > :44:58.majority we think it's contrary to the human rights law that you can't

:44:59. > :45:02.make these choices but we don't want to intervene and so we hear what

:45:03. > :45:05.Parliament has got to say. Now Parliament has spoken... You think

:45:06. > :45:09.it could be different. It could be different, it's for the courts now

:45:10. > :45:15.to say, whether or not they think it's contrary to your right to make

:45:16. > :45:19.choices at the end of your life. OK. I'm going to introduce if I may,

:45:20. > :45:25.what Faulkner, Sarah Wootton, the Chief Executive of dignity in dying,

:45:26. > :45:29.campaign group by Noel Conway and we will talk to Michel Findlay, her

:45:30. > :45:35.daughter Ella took her own life aged 36, with the generative multiple

:45:36. > :45:38.sclerosis and terminal cancer. Ladies before I begin talking to you

:45:39. > :45:42.are young being told potentially Roger Federer will be doing a live

:45:43. > :45:46.interview from Wimbledon, so if that happens, we have to go to it at that

:45:47. > :45:50.moment so I will pause our conversation but we will definitely

:45:51. > :45:56.come back to you, I do hope you understand that I apologise in

:45:57. > :46:01.advance. Sarah, Lord Faulkner was seen potentially through the courts,

:46:02. > :46:04.this time it might be different because Parliament has a ready

:46:05. > :46:17.spoken, what ... What do you think will happen in

:46:18. > :46:22.this case? The blanket ban on assisted dying is compatible with

:46:23. > :46:27.Noel's human rights to a dignified death. In the Supreme Court in 2014,

:46:28. > :46:32.they made it clear that if Parliament didn't deal with this

:46:33. > :46:38.issue, they could. So it was likely to come back to Parliament. The

:46:39. > :46:43.chairman of the Supreme Court, Lord knowberger, said that it was likely

:46:44. > :46:50.that another person with a terminal illness would get the declaration of

:46:51. > :46:54.income patability. Michelle, I think your daughter's circumstances were

:46:55. > :47:01.similar to Noel Conway's. Tell our add Jens a little about what

:47:02. > :47:10.decisions she made? Well, Ella was diagnosed with MS when she was 20 so

:47:11. > :47:15.she lived with the condition for 16 years, possibly 17 years, before the

:47:16. > :47:20.diagnosis. She was convinced from the moment that she understood what

:47:21. > :47:26.MS was that she would not want to be, as she called it, a cabbage with

:47:27. > :47:31.a heartbeat and she wanted to be able to choose the time at which she

:47:32. > :47:38.said goodbye to everybody. And that is indeed what she did? It is indeed

:47:39. > :47:42.what she did. She said the decision was facilitated by a diagnosis of

:47:43. > :47:47.terminal cancer. There was no going back, there was no miracle cure on

:47:48. > :47:53.the horizon. She was going to die within two or three months. She just

:47:54. > :47:58.decided that when she could no longer go to the toilet on her own,

:47:59. > :48:02.brush her teeth or get even just sort of sit up and feed herself,

:48:03. > :48:09.that she just did not want to be part of this life. She'd always been

:48:10. > :48:13.a contributor to life even though she had disabilities and when she

:48:14. > :48:21.couldn't do that any more, it wasn't worth living. Did she make the

:48:22. > :48:29.decision to die on her own? Yes. Yes. I knew when I left her house

:48:30. > :48:32.that that was going to be the day, but other people that looked after

:48:33. > :48:38.her and loved her didn't. I was the only one that knew because she knew

:48:39. > :48:43.that she could confide in me. But she didn't want anybody there, apart

:48:44. > :48:49.from her little cat, because she didn't want the risk of anybody

:48:50. > :48:55.being prosecuted for having been there, you know. I understand that

:48:56. > :49:00.it's discretionary that we might be prosecuted but that wasn't good

:49:01. > :49:06.enough for her. So she was effectively drying to protect you

:49:07. > :49:11.all? Yes. She campaigned and was active in trying to change the law.

:49:12. > :49:21.Do you think in your lifetime you will see a law change? It really

:49:22. > :49:28.depends on whether MPs are going to listen to their constituents, rather

:49:29. > :49:33.than to official medical organisations from the Royal College

:49:34. > :49:37.of Physicians. Jeremy Hunt said that he had changed his mind since he

:49:38. > :49:47.voted against it because he attended a funeral of somebody who had taken

:49:48. > :49:50.their own life in Holland and he was coming to the opinion that it was

:49:51. > :50:03.the right thing to do for some people. OK. Political decision...

:50:04. > :50:09.OK. What do you say to the judges who will be hearing the case of Noel

:50:10. > :50:17.Conway's? I would say to them and maybe some of them have, I would say

:50:18. > :50:25.to them, if one of your loved ones was going to die a terrible death,

:50:26. > :50:28.would you want to be sitting there with them while this happened, or

:50:29. > :50:34.would you prefer to see them go and slip away peacefully. I'm going to

:50:35. > :50:40.bring Lord Falconer back in. You know the argument against this which

:50:41. > :50:44.is vulnerable people will be helped to die when they don't necessarily

:50:45. > :50:47.want to die, that is why people oppose what you're campaigning for?

:50:48. > :50:51.I think the position is worse the way it is at the moment because

:50:52. > :50:54.there are no safeguards at all and what Noel is proposing to the court

:50:55. > :50:58.is that there be safeguards, namely two doctors have got to say it's

:50:59. > :51:03.right and the judge has got to say it's right. Michelle's account of

:51:04. > :51:08.her daughter's death is absolutely tragic. As she said, and it's not

:51:09. > :51:12.just Michelle's daughter, it's other people as well who've had the die

:51:13. > :51:16.alone because they fear what may happen under the existing law and

:51:17. > :51:20.what happens under the existing law is, you're investigated by the

:51:21. > :51:23.police, a well-meaning official then decides in his office or her office

:51:24. > :51:26.whether or not you are going to be prosecuted. If you are prosecuted,

:51:27. > :51:34.you've got no defence and it's awful. Thank you all very much for

:51:35. > :51:36.coming on the programme. Thank you particularly Michelle for telling us

:51:37. > :51:44.about your daughter. Let's go to Wimbledon and hear from

:51:45. > :51:51.Roger Federer, eight-times Wimbledon champion. Here he is.

:51:52. > :51:55.Sitting here on the players' lawn at Wimbledon on a glorious third Monday

:51:56. > :51:58.in the Championships, many congratulations again Roger. Thank

:51:59. > :52:02.you. I remember you saying once in the past your favourite hour after

:52:03. > :52:08.the Groom Grand Slam is the hour after match point when you see your

:52:09. > :52:13.family and friends. You had a lot of hands to shake yesterday, Royalty,

:52:14. > :52:19.fans, celebrities, did it live up to expectations? Yes, an amazing amount

:52:20. > :52:23.of friend and family that came from around the world to support me at

:52:24. > :52:27.the last minute at the finals and plus the people already here for

:52:28. > :52:31.some time. We were actually up there almost like 80 of us, you know,

:52:32. > :52:38.celebrating the win afterwards, so that was a beautiful moment just

:52:39. > :52:42.having that one hour away from the press, away from the attention of

:52:43. > :52:46.the world watching and just celebrating with your friend and

:52:47. > :52:50.family and my kids and my wife. It was great. My parents too. I had a

:52:51. > :52:54.great time. I was very thankful that I could get that hour in before I

:52:55. > :52:58.had to go into two-and-a-half hours of press conference. Here you are

:52:59. > :53:04.again this morning. Here I am. You have broken your tie with Pete

:53:05. > :53:13.Sampras, you were level with him on seven titles. How special an

:53:14. > :53:18.achievement is that for you? He'll always be my hero. Not because I've

:53:19. > :53:24.surpassed his feat here, nothing's changed, he's still my guy, you

:53:25. > :53:28.know. After our match here in 2001, that one day I would surpass him, I

:53:29. > :53:34.never thought that would be possible in my wildest dreams so I take it as

:53:35. > :53:40.it is and run with it, I enjoy it, I'm happy. People and fans were

:53:41. > :53:45.happy for me again yesterday. So it was just another incredible day here

:53:46. > :53:50.at Wimbledon. Wimbledon's been too kind to me over all these years and

:53:51. > :53:55.now, to be the roshed holder for the first time for a male to win eight

:53:56. > :53:58.Wimbledons, I'll always be that guy, it's very, very special and Pete

:53:59. > :54:04.remains my hero for life, of course. How tempted are you by the prospect

:54:05. > :54:08.of being world number one again? It looks almost certain as if you or

:54:09. > :54:12.Nadal will take over from Andy Murray? It is at the very least a

:54:13. > :54:16.fantastic storyline Absolutely. I think it's going to be a three or

:54:17. > :54:20.four way race or maybe a two-way race with me and Rafa when Andy will

:54:21. > :54:24.drop the world number one ranking. If all of a sudden Andy starts

:54:25. > :54:30.winning again, we also have to win again. At some stage if he drops

:54:31. > :54:33.points, we'll get there. I hope it's me and not Rafa because it would

:54:34. > :54:37.mean a lot to me to get back to world number one. I was just trying

:54:38. > :54:42.to explain to the press that I hadn't thought about it a whole lot

:54:43. > :54:47.yet. I have to speak with the team and decide, am I going to chase it

:54:48. > :54:53.for the near future, so maybe get to Wimbledon at least one more time in

:54:54. > :54:57.my career, oh e or is the goal maybe to finish at world number one which

:54:58. > :55:01.is a bigger deal. To me that makes no difference being world number one

:55:02. > :55:04.for a week or year end number one at this stage in my career. So I have

:55:05. > :55:08.to have a meeting and discussion with my team about that in the

:55:09. > :55:11.coming week. Our favourite question generally is, how long are you going

:55:12. > :55:15.to play for and I know you can't possibly answer that question. You

:55:16. > :55:24.have won two Grand Slams since you turned 35. Ken Rose was in Grand

:55:25. > :55:28.Slam finals at the age of 39. Does it appeal to you, the thought of

:55:29. > :55:33.hitting your expertise and experience against guys half your

:55:34. > :55:37.age? How it feels to play against the players half my age - it feels

:55:38. > :55:44.also again quite different, you know. I love the times when I came

:55:45. > :55:48.on tour and I played the likes I knew from the video gamesTV and here

:55:49. > :55:54.I am playing against them and now I'm playing, I'm on the opposite

:55:55. > :56:00.side, I'm like the guy they know from TV and now, joining, it's quite

:56:01. > :56:05.-- I don't know, it's quite different. I'm enjoying myself. I

:56:06. > :56:10.like to guide them and help them along the way and if they have any

:56:11. > :56:12.advice they seek, I like to give guidance. It's important to share

:56:13. > :56:17.experience and knowledge about the game. The game will always move on

:56:18. > :56:21.and be bigger than any athlete, so I'm happy that I could be in the

:56:22. > :56:24.sport as long as I have been and we'll see how much longer I'll be

:56:25. > :56:28.around. A final thought. Have you learnt a great deal from other

:56:29. > :56:33.sports men and women in other fields. I'm thinking of the likes of

:56:34. > :56:39.Usain Bolt likely to be making headlines here in London over the

:56:40. > :56:48.next few weeks? I get inspired in a big way by Usain Bolt, Le Bron

:56:49. > :56:52.James, Rossi or Schumacher. People at the highest levels because I

:56:53. > :56:58.would marvel at what they did. When I was younger I could get match

:56:59. > :57:04.ready. People would practise 100% and I would struggle in a big way

:57:05. > :57:08.when I was younger. Eventually I found my way how it was possible and

:57:09. > :57:12.how I needed to motivate myself, how I needed a team around me to

:57:13. > :57:18.motivate myself and do that. It's been really important for me to have

:57:19. > :57:23.inSpiring figures -- inspiring figures. I take it mostly from

:57:24. > :57:26.legends. ConFrank laces again, Roger, it's an extraordinary

:57:27. > :57:30.achievement to have won an eighth title 14 years after your first.

:57:31. > :57:34.Enjoy the moment. I sure will, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

:57:35. > :57:38.Russell Fuller talking to the brilliant Roger Federer, so special

:57:39. > :57:41.he said it was and also interesting takening inspiration from other

:57:42. > :57:45.sports people and looking at how they practise day in day out. Yes,

:57:46. > :57:51.guess what you have got to work really hard to do what Roger Federer

:57:52. > :57:57.has done. So many comments about Doctor Who. Most of you are very

:57:58. > :58:01.delighted Jodie Whittaker is to become the 13th doctor. Ian says I

:58:02. > :58:06.wish her all the best, then he goes on the say, I'm one of the minority

:58:07. > :58:12.who won't be watching after 40 years of being a fan. I bet you any money

:58:13. > :58:16.you will not be able to resist, even if it's for curiosity sake watching

:58:17. > :58:20.Jodie Whittaker. She's going to be in the Christmas special isn't she.

:58:21. > :58:26.We'll see what happens after that. Alex says, the fact there is even a

:58:27. > :58:34.discuss about the next one being a woman, it just goes to show gender

:58:35. > :58:38.inequality still exists. Surgical mesh could be banned for some

:58:39. > :58:40.surgical operations, that goes to Parliament today. We'll bring you

:58:41. > :58:55.the details tomorrow. When I think of the world

:58:56. > :58:58.we inhabit, everyone will think, Yeah. And it wasn't,

:58:59. > :59:01.it was done by hand over days and weeks

:59:02. > :59:05.and months and years.