:00:08. > :00:09.Hello, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
:00:10. > :00:14.Our top story today - survivors and relatives of those
:00:15. > :00:17.who died in the Grenfell Tower fire have only received a small amount
:00:18. > :00:19.of the money and items donated by the public.
:00:20. > :00:25.Also on the programme - campaigners calling for the urgent
:00:26. > :00:28.suspension of vaginal mesh implants in England are taking their case
:00:29. > :00:40.It follows the exclusive coverage of the issue on this programme.
:00:41. > :00:48.I am registered disabled. I am doubly incontinent and I have no
:00:49. > :00:50.control over my bowel Orr bladder. I won't leave the house until I know
:00:51. > :00:57.Miss Bowel is empty. Today the Dog's Trust releases
:00:58. > :01:03.shocking footage of underage puppies apparently being transported
:01:04. > :01:05.across europe and illegally into the UK - sedated
:01:06. > :01:07.and with their umbilical cords We'll bring you the full
:01:08. > :01:36.story before 10. Also on the programme today.
:01:37. > :01:40.# I believe I can fly. # Shocking claims this morning that
:01:41. > :01:44.R Kelly is holding several young We'll bring you details
:01:45. > :01:48.of the claims - which he denies - We're live until 11 this morning.
:01:49. > :02:09.And after 10.30 we'll be speaking to Johanna Konta -
:02:10. > :02:11.who's now ranked number 4 in the world, after her stunning
:02:12. > :02:14.performance at Wimbledon this year. If you want to ask her a question,
:02:15. > :02:17.do get in touch and we'll Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE,
:02:18. > :02:25.and If you text, you will be charged A BBC investigation has
:02:26. > :02:32.found that only a small fraction of the money,
:02:33. > :02:36.donated as part of the Grenfell Tower fire appeal, has
:02:37. > :02:38.so far reached survivors Almost ?20 million has been
:02:39. > :02:41.raised and 40,000 boxes But just half a million pounds
:02:42. > :02:48.of that has so far been distributed to the families affected,
:02:49. > :02:50.and there are concerns that the money isn't reaching
:02:51. > :02:52.people quickly enough. Tom Burridge
:02:53. > :03:00.reports. Some of the items we've
:03:01. > :03:03.had through have been This is the Grenfell Tower Fire
:03:04. > :03:10.Appeal in action, a Red Cross Donations in the green bags will be
:03:11. > :03:17.sold in Red Cross shops. Brand-new items will go straight
:03:18. > :03:24.back to survivors of the fire It's about turning all the different
:03:25. > :03:30.donations we've had into cash which automatically will then go
:03:31. > :03:41.to the appeal. To appreciate the scale
:03:42. > :03:43.of donations, you had to fly through this London warehouse a week
:03:44. > :03:45.after the fire. It's estimated 174 tonnes
:03:46. > :03:49.of stuff was donated. So far they have sorted half of it,
:03:50. > :03:53.and ten tonnes has gone No amount of money is enough for
:03:54. > :03:59.the loved ones of those who died. Research by the BBC shows that
:04:00. > :04:02.several appeals and charities have Some question why only a small part
:04:03. > :04:11.of that has made it through. We feel that it's betraying
:04:12. > :04:13.the public's generosity because they gave money to help
:04:14. > :04:16.directly those who were affected and we're not too clear
:04:17. > :04:17.that it's happening. It's like there's a filter
:04:18. > :04:19.and organisations rather than individuals are getting
:04:20. > :04:26.the financial support. Charities say the complexity
:04:27. > :04:28.and the scale of what happened The thing about these things that
:04:29. > :04:37.we've learnt from the 7/7 attacks and indeed from the response
:04:38. > :04:39.to the Manchester attacks, is that it takes longer
:04:40. > :04:42.than you might think for people to come forward to
:04:43. > :04:49.seek their funding. I have forgiven, you know,
:04:50. > :04:59.the bombers who did this to me... Thelma Stober lost her left foot
:05:00. > :05:01.in the London 7/7 bombings. She received money
:05:02. > :05:03.donated by the public. I used it to get myself daily
:05:04. > :05:06.physiotherapy support at home. My determination was to walk again
:05:07. > :05:09.as I was told the chances It took 15 months to distribute
:05:10. > :05:14.all the money raised for victims Thelma is now a trustee
:05:15. > :05:17.of the London Emergency Trust. It's distributing ?4.8 million
:05:18. > :05:19.of the Grenfell appeal. So far, 16 people have
:05:20. > :05:30.received payments. You're in a state
:05:31. > :05:32.of total confusion. A lot of people are suffering
:05:33. > :05:34.from post-traumatic stress. You're trying to understand what has
:05:35. > :05:36.happened, the implications for your life going forward,
:05:37. > :05:42.is changed forever. Even here, in rural Cheshire,
:05:43. > :05:45.what happened in a London tower It's emotional even now,
:05:46. > :05:54.just the thought of what's yet to be Whether donating an old top
:05:55. > :06:00.or a tenner, people The challenge for charities
:06:01. > :06:19.is ensuring it all benefits those tomorrow we will be live talking to
:06:20. > :06:22.survivors of and hearing their frustrations five-weeks after the
:06:23. > :06:22.fire which killed at least 80 people.
:06:23. > :06:25.Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
:06:26. > :06:30.Theresa May has urged Conservative MPs and ministers to end
:06:31. > :06:32.what she called the "backbiting" that has split the party
:06:33. > :06:37.At a reception in the Commons last night, the Prime Minister
:06:38. > :06:46.in Downing Street. was her or Jeremy Corbyn
:06:47. > :06:49.It's a call for unity that she's expected to repeat this morning
:06:50. > :06:52.Campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal
:06:53. > :06:55.mesh implants in England after this programme revealed that hundreds
:06:56. > :06:57.of women are living with chronic pain and complications.
:06:58. > :07:00.The mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse
:07:01. > :07:01.and urinary incontinence, which can be common
:07:02. > :07:06.Mesh implants have already been suspended in Scotland.
:07:07. > :07:08.The R singer R Kelly has denied allegations
:07:09. > :07:15.that he is holding several young women in an "abusive cult".
:07:16. > :07:17.A BuzzFeed report accuses the singer of brainwashing women,
:07:18. > :07:20.who got closer to him in an effort to boost their musical careers.
:07:21. > :07:22.The singer's lawyer said he would work "diligently
:07:23. > :07:31.and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name".
:07:32. > :07:32.and forcibly to pursue his accusers Austerity may be starting
:07:33. > :07:36.in England, according to a leading health expert.
:07:37. > :07:38.Professor Sir Michael Marmot, from University College London,
:07:39. > :07:41.says the rate of increase has almost "ground to a halt" since 2010.
:07:42. > :07:43.His suggestion that it was "possible" that austerity
:07:44. > :07:45.was affecting how long people live has been dismissed
:07:46. > :07:58.Our health correspondent, Nick Triggle, reports.
:07:59. > :08:01.Life expectancy has been rising for the last century, but now
:08:02. > :08:03.a leading health expert is raising concerns the increases
:08:04. > :08:06.Sir Michael Marmot, who has advised both the government
:08:07. > :08:10.and World Health Organization, points out that the rate of increase
:08:11. > :08:13.Historically, life expectancy at birth has risen by one year
:08:14. > :08:19.for every five years for women and one year every 3.5 for men.
:08:20. > :08:21.Since 2010, however, that has slowed to one year
:08:22. > :08:25.for every ten for women and one for every six for men.
:08:26. > :08:34.Sir Michael says the situation needs to be urgently looked at.
:08:35. > :08:37.This is historically highly unusual because over a long period of time,
:08:38. > :08:40.for 100 years, life expectancy has been improving, year on year
:08:41. > :08:42.in Britain as it has in many, many, many, many other countries.
:08:43. > :08:45.And now it has slowed, i's almost flat, which means that
:08:46. > :08:59.we've fallen behind some of the healthier countries.
:09:00. > :09:02.He says it's not possible to say exactly what had caused it
:09:03. > :09:05.but he says austerity could be a factor and funding for the NHS
:09:06. > :09:08.and social care in particular had been miserly.
:09:09. > :09:10.Dementia is also likely to have played a role.
:09:11. > :09:13.The Department of Health says it's providing funding to ensure life
:09:14. > :09:15.expectancy continues to rise and the ageing population
:09:16. > :09:25.There should be stronger regulation of advertisements which show men
:09:26. > :09:28.failing at simple household tasks and women left to clean up -
:09:29. > :09:31.according to the body that oversees advertising in the UK.
:09:32. > :09:33.The Advertising Standards Authority has been reviewing its approach
:09:34. > :09:37.to ads that feature stereotypical gender roles.
:09:38. > :09:39.It concluded that such ads had "costs for individuals,
:09:40. > :09:47.As a result, it says it will draw up new rules.
:09:48. > :09:50.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge - along with Prince George
:09:51. > :09:54.and Princess Charlotte - are continuing their tour of Poland.
:09:55. > :10:02.Today they'll visit the Stutthof Concentration Camp
:10:03. > :10:05.Last night, Prince William delivered a speech in Warsaw
:10:06. > :10:11.in which he praised the country's courage, fortitude and bravery.
:10:12. > :10:21.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.
:10:22. > :10:31.We are going to talk to Johanna Konta later. Now the sport. It was a
:10:32. > :10:34.great day for Britain at the world paraathletics yesterday. Yes,
:10:35. > :10:40.another great day. Good morning. Three more golds, that is 11 in
:10:41. > :10:45.total. 20 medal overall so far, they only started on Friday. Two of those
:10:46. > :10:52.11 golds so far, have come from Hannah Cockroft. She got the second
:10:53. > :11:02.of those last night in the T 34 800 metres. She could win a third later
:11:03. > :11:07.in the week as well. Cockroft is amazing. Nine world titles to go
:11:08. > :11:12.with her five Paralympic gold medals. She could complete a treble
:11:13. > :11:18.treble while not feeling great. She is short of breath. She says she
:11:19. > :11:26.feels like she is smoking 100 cigarettes a day! That treble treble
:11:27. > :11:31.could be sealed later. Sophie Kamlish won another gold and Olivia
:11:32. > :11:36.Breen, a surprise, as she won the T38 long jump with a personal best.
:11:37. > :11:43.Great Britain just second in the medals table. A little behind the
:11:44. > :11:46.United States. Joe Root after being revered for his batting and
:11:47. > :11:50.captaincy is on the rack after the collapse against South Africa. Yes,
:11:51. > :11:53.welcome to the world of being England Captain Joe Root. That
:11:54. > :12:03.century against South Africa in the first match of the series, crashing
:12:04. > :12:07.down-to-earth, 133-3 out. Chase an improbable amount. They could last
:12:08. > :12:11.two session, all out for that paltry amount and the major criticism
:12:12. > :12:17.starts to flow and as you say, Michael Vaughan who is Root's friend
:12:18. > :12:20.and mentor suggest England lack respect for Test cricket. Root says
:12:21. > :12:26.he can't believe Vaughan said that and it is very unfair. The series is
:12:27. > :12:32.level, but still those questions about the battle line up. There may
:12:33. > :12:37.be changes and another captain in Nasser Hussain says some the
:12:38. > :12:40.selections have been abysmal. We wait to see if there is any
:12:41. > :12:45.improvement come the Third Test which starts next Thursday at the
:12:46. > :12:50.Oval. Can the women save the gay? Yes, in a rematch of England against
:12:51. > :12:55.South Africa, it is to come in the World Cup semifinal in Bristol and
:12:56. > :12:59.they will attempt to exact some sort of revenge on the team who beat
:13:00. > :13:02.England in the men's. South Africa will be the attempting to exact
:13:03. > :13:07.revenge on the England women's team. These two met in the group stage
:13:08. > :13:12.earlier on in the tournament. It was won impressively by England, the
:13:13. > :13:16.same ground in Bristol, by 68 run, they will attempt to do the same.
:13:17. > :13:20.These two have provided a good deal of runs in the tournament so far,
:13:21. > :13:24.watch out for the South African bowling attack. They are
:13:25. > :13:27.particularly good. Their opening fast bowlers. England may be
:13:28. > :13:32.favourite for the match and they topped the group after six wins in a
:13:33. > :13:37.row, they will be wary of what South Africa, a greatly improved team will
:13:38. > :13:41.be able to provide. The winners, will play Australia or India, in the
:13:42. > :13:45.final and that will be at Lord's. Thank you. More from Hugh throughout
:13:46. > :13:48.the morning. This morning, fresh calls
:13:49. > :13:51.for an urgent suspension of vaginal mesh implants in England after this
:13:52. > :13:53.programme exclusively revealed hundreds of women are living
:13:54. > :13:55.with chronic pain and complications following the minor procedure
:13:56. > :13:57.to treat problems often Mesh implants have already been
:13:58. > :14:04.suspended in Scotland and now campaigners are calling for the same
:14:05. > :14:12.to happen in England. Back in April we brought
:14:13. > :14:14.you the news that more than 800 women in the UK are taking legal
:14:15. > :14:17.action against the NHS and It is used when women
:14:18. > :14:30.have a prolapse or bladder incontinence, normally brought
:14:31. > :14:32.on by childbirth, and it's often That's the same material used
:14:33. > :14:39.to make this kind of drinks bottle. For most women, mesh implants work,
:14:40. > :14:43.but around one in 11 experience problems when they disintegrate
:14:44. > :14:46.or erode, leaving some in permanent Over the last five years,
:14:47. > :14:52.I counted, actually, My husband has turned
:14:53. > :15:01.into my carer and he is so much We haven't had sex for
:15:02. > :15:10.four and a half years. Now we have learned more than 800
:15:11. > :15:13.women are taking legal action against the NHS and manufacturers
:15:14. > :15:15.over the mesh implants and some want to see them banned
:15:16. > :15:19.completely on the NHS. I want the procedure banned,
:15:20. > :15:28.I want the material banned. Do you believe the NHS should
:15:29. > :15:31.stop using these meshes? I do believe they should
:15:32. > :15:33.stop using these meshes. Actually, here you should
:15:34. > :15:36.be saying, "Honestly, we are able to tell you,
:15:37. > :15:43.here is a device, here is the benefit, here
:15:44. > :15:48.is the long-term harm." If you can't say that,
:15:49. > :15:55.you shouldn't make it available. Ethicon, a subsidiary
:15:56. > :15:57.of Johnson Johnson, one of the largest manufacturers,
:15:58. > :15:59.says the implants have helped millions of women suffering
:16:00. > :16:01.from stress urinary incontinence The UK regulatory body, the MHRA,
:16:02. > :16:04.believes the benefits Dr Mark Slack is a surgeon
:16:05. > :16:08.who carries out some types I have enormous sympathy
:16:09. > :16:12.for the patients who A recent review in Scotland said
:16:13. > :16:25.mesh implants shouldn't be routinely used for pelvic organ
:16:26. > :16:28.prolapse, but critics called A separate review is under way
:16:29. > :16:33.in England and Wales. The simple procedure could end up
:16:34. > :16:36.costing the NHS tens of millions I am doubly incontinent
:16:37. > :16:45.and I have no control over my bowel or my bladder,
:16:46. > :16:48.so I will not leave the house Carol, let me ask
:16:49. > :16:56.you about the impact I have got extensive nerve damage
:16:57. > :17:04.in my left leg, in my foot, my hip. I am double incontinent,
:17:05. > :17:05.bowel and bladder. I have got depression, severe,
:17:06. > :17:09.that I have had to go and see an emergency counsellor,
:17:10. > :17:11.and I have got fibromyalgia. I never foresaw that having
:17:12. > :17:13.a 40-minute procedure twice That was back in April -
:17:14. > :17:25.since then the campaign to suspend We can speak now to Debbie Waine
:17:26. > :17:30.who has lost her mobility It's the frist time she's
:17:31. > :17:36.ever spoken publicly Kath Sansom, campaigner
:17:37. > :17:39.for Sling The Mesh. Labour MP Owen Smith,
:17:40. > :17:41.who is addressing a meeting of women, their families
:17:42. > :17:45.and surgeons at parliament later. And, of course, we invited Ethicon -
:17:46. > :17:53.a subsidiary of Johnson and Johnson who're the largest
:17:54. > :17:54.manufacturers of mesh to come on this programme -
:17:55. > :17:56.they said no. Some of what you hear during our
:17:57. > :18:04.regulatory agency the MHRA. Some of what you hear during our
:18:05. > :18:08.conversation will be graphic and frank as you would expect with such
:18:09. > :18:13.a subject. Debbie, thank you for coming on the programme. You're
:18:14. > :18:18.welcome. You can't walk. You use a mobility scooter? Yeah. You use
:18:19. > :18:22.crutches. Yeah. You can't work. No. You are in chronic pain? Yes. And
:18:23. > :18:31.you have recently been diagnosed with PTSD? Yes. As a result of this
:18:32. > :18:37.small 20 minute procedure? Yes. Yes. Basically before I had the mesh in,
:18:38. > :18:41.I was quite fit. I was active, walking the dog for hours, playing
:18:42. > :18:47.squash and badminton with my children. It was a good life. And I
:18:48. > :18:53.was at university trying to get a degree for photography and I had a
:18:54. > :18:59.photography studio which I had to give up because of my mobility. I
:19:00. > :19:04.had the mesh put in in 2013, and I had problems within an hour of
:19:05. > :19:10.coming up from surgery. In terms of bleeding? I bled out and you can
:19:11. > :19:16.imagine I'm lying on the bed and the blood is pouring over my legs. So
:19:17. > :19:21.the doctor had to pack me with gaus or something to stop the bleeding
:19:22. > :19:25.and that was horrendous. I believe that probably didn't help my
:19:26. > :19:30.situation and the groin problems because I had TOT, it is connected
:19:31. > :19:38.to the groin. And it has damaged my nerves. I had a partial removal by
:19:39. > :19:44.the surgeon that put it in originally and four weeks later it
:19:45. > :19:49.snapped and I felt it snap. It caused excruciating pain. My GP sent
:19:50. > :19:52.me to the doctor and a doctor turned around and said, "You're
:19:53. > :19:57.inContinent, what do you expect?" My legs were going into spasm. I asked
:19:58. > :20:00.why are my legs going into spasm? They said there is nothing wrong
:20:01. > :20:05.with you. It's not the tape. The tape is another name for the mesh,
:20:06. > :20:11.isn't it? I got humiliated when she examined me. When she examined me,
:20:12. > :20:18.she told me to cough. And my urine just flew across her arm. And she
:20:19. > :20:27.got the hump. I didn't have anything to wipe myself down. I was treated
:20:28. > :20:32.really bad. Fortunately, I found out about Miso kneel. The consultant
:20:33. > :20:37.surgeon who has become practised in removing the mesh from women. Yes.
:20:38. > :20:42.Can I ask, these are some personal questions. I know you feel OK
:20:43. > :20:46.answering these to illustrate to our audience the kind of depth of this.
:20:47. > :20:54.Can you, do you know when to go to the loo now? I have a silly rhyme in
:20:55. > :21:00.my head. I say two cups of tea, go for a pee. I have to keep constantly
:21:01. > :21:05.reminding myself because sometimes I forget. I can go eight or nine hours
:21:06. > :21:15.without going if I forget. So, which is not good. It can cause
:21:16. > :21:19.infections. I have to self catheterise to prevent infections.
:21:20. > :21:23.My legs are in spasms. I am on horrendous pain medication. My
:21:24. > :21:33.ability to concentrate, I have got brain fog all the time. And as a
:21:34. > :21:38.result, of five operations, and this diagnosis of the PDST, now, you
:21:39. > :21:44.effectively have ended up losing your home and your husband, is this
:21:45. > :21:50.correct? Yes. Yes. My husband at the time couldn't look after me and I
:21:51. > :21:58.was seriously poorly. He couldn't cope. So we separated and that was
:21:59. > :22:02.it, but before we separated, when I saw the consultant, he recommended
:22:03. > :22:07.that I try and make love to my husband even though he knew the tape
:22:08. > :22:12.was coming out of my vagina at the time. So I did everything doctors
:22:13. > :22:19.told me to do. What was that advice for? I really don't understand why.
:22:20. > :22:28.Looking back, I should never have done it. We attempted to make love.
:22:29. > :22:34.One penetration and my husband screamed out in pain. Because the
:22:35. > :22:37.mesh... Had cut and scratched his penis and it was horrendous pain for
:22:38. > :22:42.me as well and that was the worst thing ever and it felt so
:22:43. > :22:50.humiliating and I just felt angry towards that doctor.
:22:51. > :22:53.What do you think when you hear for example the MHRA, that's the
:22:54. > :22:58.regulatory agency in this country saying to us, "We continue to see
:22:59. > :23:04.that the evidence supports the use of these devices in the UK for the
:23:05. > :23:08.treatment of the distressing conditions of incontentance and
:23:09. > :23:13.organ prolapse and this is supported by the clinical community and
:23:14. > :23:18.patients." I just wonder how many people are going to get crippled
:23:19. > :23:26.before anyone listens to us? What we go through on a daily basis is a
:23:27. > :23:34.nightmare. How can they say it's still beneficial? Let me bring in
:23:35. > :23:41.Kath Sam son from Sling The Mesh. They say it is beneficial for most
:23:42. > :23:43.women because it is? They say the benefits outweigh the risks, but
:23:44. > :23:50.they don't know how many people are suffering because there is no
:23:51. > :23:54.national register. 40% of surgeons report to their own database. The
:23:55. > :24:01.reality is they don't know how many women are suffering. I have said on
:24:02. > :24:05.this programme before, it is anything from 15%, 30%, 40%, nobody
:24:06. > :24:09.actually knows. So you can't, I don't understand how they can say
:24:10. > :24:13.the benefits outweigh the risks without having proper data to back
:24:14. > :24:17.that up because no one knows how many women are out there like Debbie
:24:18. > :24:21.on the really bad end of the scale, on perhaps not such a bad end of the
:24:22. > :24:24.scale, they are perhaps suffering water infections and lost their sex
:24:25. > :24:31.lives and don't understand why. There is a range of insidious mesh
:24:32. > :24:35.complications. Owen Smith, you are a politician, what can you do to help
:24:36. > :24:39.Debbie? Well, the reason you're broadcasting this today is because
:24:40. > :24:43.we have got a lobby of Parliament and Debbie and 100 other women are
:24:44. > :24:46.come to go Parliament, that's a meeting I have organised in
:24:47. > :24:50.conjunction with Kath in order to raise the profile of this issue.
:24:51. > :24:56.There is clearly a large problem, a greater problem we have anticipated
:24:57. > :25:00.previously. It is true, that not all women suffer these adverse effects,
:25:01. > :25:05.but those who do, have really grave effects, many of them, Debbie's
:25:06. > :25:09.story is graphic and horrible for her, but it's actually not
:25:10. > :25:13.untypical, I have heard lots and lots of similar stories relayed to
:25:14. > :25:19.me in the last couple of weeks and if it's 10% of women who are
:25:20. > :25:22.suffering the adverse events, that's 10% of 100,000 women who have had
:25:23. > :25:25.the procedure over the last few years, that's surely too many and it
:25:26. > :25:29.is enough for us to be thinking do we need to get to the bottom of how
:25:30. > :25:32.many women have been affected and do we need to suspend the use of the
:25:33. > :25:37.mesh until we have got a clear idea of how grave a problem it is? Well,
:25:38. > :25:40.it has been suspended in Scotland. Are you saying it's a realistic
:25:41. > :25:44.possibility that the same could happen for England and Wales and
:25:45. > :25:47.Northern Ireland? It should be suspended until we have got to the
:25:48. > :25:51.bottom of it. Northern Ireland has announced it will have an audit in
:25:52. > :25:56.order to determine how many women have been affected there. There was
:25:57. > :25:59.a period when this was being marketed really heavily as a simple
:26:00. > :26:04.quick fix easy to do, you didn't need to be an expert surgeon in
:26:05. > :26:10.order to implant one of these and it could solve the problem and for some
:26:11. > :26:15.women, it has worked, but that proportion in whom it hasn't worked
:26:16. > :26:21.the complications have been life changing and that can't be right. We
:26:22. > :26:29.all know there are risks with surgery. We do, but I don't think
:26:30. > :26:32.the risks were explained to the women. It is difficult to take these
:26:33. > :26:39.things out and it wasn't properly explained. I don't think the
:26:40. > :26:42.surgeons understood the degree of chronic pain, debilitating life
:26:43. > :26:47.changing pain that some women can experience. I don't think they
:26:48. > :26:49.understood how many women can suffer that complications and that's got to
:26:50. > :26:57.call into question the continued use of it. Johnson Johnson who run
:26:58. > :27:01.Ethicon. It is a subsidiary of Johnson Johnson, they tell us
:27:02. > :27:05.calls to remove mesh products are not supported by clinical evidence
:27:06. > :27:10.and research and would restrict access to important treatment
:27:11. > :27:15.options for women suffering from certificate serious pelvic
:27:16. > :27:20.conditions? It was marketed for pelvic organ prolapse. It has been
:27:21. > :27:24.removed for the market for pelvic organ prolapse. The clin clael
:27:25. > :27:33.guidelines have changed in respect of that. I think a similar thing is
:27:34. > :27:39.happening with regard to stress related urinary incontent hans. I
:27:40. > :27:43.think evidence is starting to show that these complications only emerge
:27:44. > :27:47.over a decade and it has been a decade for many of the women since
:27:48. > :27:53.the devices were inserted. Do you have any idea if this issue is on
:27:54. > :27:57.England's Health Secretary's radar? I have no idea doubt that it's on
:27:58. > :28:02.his radar unless he has got his head buried in the sand, he is looking at
:28:03. > :28:05.this. There is an outstanding report coming from NHS England that should
:28:06. > :28:11.give us some further clinical guidance and a view, they need to
:28:12. > :28:15.get on with that. Why it hasn't been produced in its entirety over the
:28:16. > :28:19.last couple of years, I don't know, but I'm anticipating that's going to
:28:20. > :28:23.come out soon. It was due and there was an election called. Kath, do you
:28:24. > :28:28.feel you are getting closer to seeing what you want which is a
:28:29. > :28:33.suspension of the vaginal mesh implants in England and Wales and
:28:34. > :28:36.Northern Ireland? We have a lobby in Parliament in a strong MP who
:28:37. > :28:43.believes in our cause as we do. The media are interested. People are
:28:44. > :28:45.realise that there isn't the evidence to back up that they are
:28:46. > :28:49.saying it is safe for women. We're get there. We have made good
:28:50. > :28:52.progress. Thank you all of you. Thank you for coming on the
:28:53. > :28:55.programme. Thank you Debbie, thank you for talking to us.
:28:56. > :28:59.An investigation by the Dogs Trust finds puppies illegally transported
:29:00. > :29:01.into the UK illegally - sedated, and in baskets,
:29:02. > :29:04.where their only source of air comes from holes poked through a cling
:29:05. > :29:10.We'll be speaking to the Dogs Trust, to people who bought puppy farmed
:29:11. > :29:15.dogs without realising and we'll meet Enid the bulldog.
:29:16. > :29:18.R B singer R Kelly has denied reports that he's holding
:29:19. > :29:28.We will bring you the full story after 10am.
:29:29. > :29:32.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.
:29:33. > :29:35.A BBC investigation has found that only a small
:29:36. > :29:38.fraction of the money donated as part of the Grenfell
:29:39. > :29:40.Tower fire appeal, has so far reached survivors
:29:41. > :29:46.Almost ?20 million has been raised and 40,000 boxes
:29:47. > :29:51.But less than ?800,000 has been given out so far.
:29:52. > :29:54.An estimated 174 tonnes of items - such as clothing - were donated
:29:55. > :29:58.and are still being sorted by the British Red Cross.
:29:59. > :30:01.Theresa May has urged Conservative MPs and ministers to end
:30:02. > :30:05.what she called the "backbiting" that has split the party
:30:06. > :30:09.At a reception in the Commons last night, the Prime Minister
:30:10. > :30:11.warned that the choice was her or Jeremy Corbyn
:30:12. > :30:17.It's a call for unity that she's expected to repeat this morning
:30:18. > :30:22.Campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal
:30:23. > :30:24.mesh implants in England after this programme revealed that hundreds
:30:25. > :30:28.of women are living with chronic pain and complications.
:30:29. > :30:31.The mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse
:30:32. > :30:33.and urinary incontinence which can be common
:30:34. > :30:39.Mesh implants have already been suspended in Scotland.
:30:40. > :30:41.The R singer R Kelly has denied allegations
:30:42. > :30:44.that he is holding several young women in an "abusive cult".
:30:45. > :30:46.A BuzzFeed report accuses the singer of brainwashing women,
:30:47. > :30:49.who got closer to him in an effort to boost their musical careers.
:30:50. > :30:51.The singer's lawyer said he would work "diligently
:30:52. > :31:02.and forcibly to pursue his accusers and clear his name".
:31:03. > :31:05.Life expectancy has been rising for the last century, but now
:31:06. > :31:07.a leading health expert is raising concerns the increases
:31:08. > :31:10.Sir Michael Marmot, who has advised both the government
:31:11. > :31:13.and World Health Organization, points out that the rate of increase
:31:14. > :31:17.Historically, life expectancy at birth has risen by one year
:31:18. > :31:20.for every five years for women and one year every 3.5 for men.
:31:21. > :31:24.Sir Michael says the situation needs to be urgently looked at.
:31:25. > :31:27.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge - along with Prince George
:31:28. > :31:29.and Princess Charlotte - are continuing their tour of Poland.
:31:30. > :31:31.It's part of a five day tour to Eastern Europe.
:31:32. > :31:33.Last night, Prince William praised Poland's courage,
:31:34. > :31:35.fortitude and bravery in a speech in Warsaw.
:31:36. > :31:37.On the agenda today is a trip to the former
:31:38. > :31:43.Stutthof Concentration Camp in Gdansk.
:31:44. > :31:52.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.
:31:53. > :32:03.Latest inflation figures just out. It fell to 2.6% in June from 2.in
:32:04. > :32:05.That is according to the Office for National Statistics.
:32:06. > :32:07.Here's some sport now, with Hugh Ferris.
:32:08. > :32:17.World Cup final is the prize on offer for England's women. They face
:32:18. > :32:21.South Africa. After straight six straight win, the match starts in
:32:22. > :32:26.around an hour's time. They will hope to do better than the men,
:32:27. > :32:30.beaten by South Africa in the Second Test at Trent Bridge. The defeat led
:32:31. > :32:33.to suggestions from a former England Captain, the current team don't
:32:34. > :32:38.respect Test cricket. And three more goals for Great
:32:39. > :32:45.Britain, the world paraathletic chap CAP champions in London. One
:32:46. > :32:51.courtesy of Hannah Cockroft. She is one away from a famous golden treble
:32:52. > :32:56.treble. Britain have 11 in total. Their second in the medals table. We
:32:57. > :33:01.have more and you have Johanna Konta after 10.00. We do. If you want to
:33:02. > :33:04.ask her a question send me an e-mail.
:33:05. > :33:06.Next this morning - claims that underage puppies
:33:07. > :33:08.are being transported across Europe and into the UK illegally -
:33:09. > :33:11.sedated, in baskets or boxes, where the only air comes from holes
:33:12. > :33:15.poked through a cling film lid, and with their umbilical
:33:16. > :33:21.An investigation by the Dog's Trust, an animal welfare charity,
:33:22. > :33:23.has gathered undercover footage showing the shocking practices used
:33:24. > :35:05.by puppy smugglers to sell them to dog-lovers here in the UK.
:35:06. > :35:08.The Dogs Trust is calling on the government to address the issue.
:35:09. > :35:12.We can speak to Runa Hanaghan, the Deputy Veterinary Director
:35:13. > :35:16.for the Dog's Trust, Peter Laurie, the Battersea Dogs
:35:17. > :35:22.Home Deputy chief executive and Enid, a bulldog puppy brought
:35:23. > :35:24.to the home as a stray - it's thought she was
:35:25. > :35:35.Matt Gooding owned West Highland terrier Pippin, for a matter
:35:36. > :35:40.of weeks before he died, after being bred in a puppy farm.
:35:41. > :35:43.Hayley Whillier bought puppy Marley which died of injuries
:35:44. > :35:57.Welcome all of you. How do you react to the footage that the dog trust
:35:58. > :36:02.have obtained? The footage is really scary when you look at how these
:36:03. > :36:08.breeders are operating, and how the trade is coming across to the UK. I
:36:09. > :36:14.think our undercover investigation highlights the whole chain of events
:36:15. > :36:18.that. Cops through, and certainly I know dog's trust have put together
:36:19. > :36:21.an animation to convey that to the general public, to make it clear as
:36:22. > :36:27.to where these puppies are starting from and what is happening on their
:36:28. > :36:35.journey across to the UK. To be sold to unsuspecting members of the
:36:36. > :36:41.public here. . It is is important we are able to highlight the issues we
:36:42. > :36:44.are seeing. What can we do about corrupt vets abroad? By lobbying the
:36:45. > :36:49.Government through your MP, what we are asking people to do is to add
:36:50. > :36:54.weight to our argument. So what, say what? Do what? To change how the UK
:36:55. > :36:59.is managing these animals coming into this country. It has been
:37:00. > :37:03.shown... We developed quarantine back in 2012, six months quarantine,
:37:04. > :37:10.that went, has that contributed to this puppy smuggling to you any? It
:37:11. > :37:15.has. We saw in the first year of that relaxation of the rules, we saw
:37:16. > :37:21.a huge increase in the number of dogs coming into the UK, about 60%,
:37:22. > :37:25.from 2014 we had our first investigation, following that in
:37:26. > :37:30.2015, the Lithuanian Government did change some of the rules for the
:37:31. > :37:34.vets in Lithuania. But that has highlighted in this report perhaps
:37:35. > :37:40.how people are getting round the rules again by perhaps not declaring
:37:41. > :37:44.the puppies and that I are coming n vets are supplying sedatives for the
:37:45. > :37:48.transporters to give to the puppies before they come over so they don't
:37:49. > :37:51.have to declare them. There are a lot of loopholes and we are
:37:52. > :37:54.concerned about that. I am not clear what you want, you want the public
:37:55. > :38:00.to lobby their MP to do what, what is the top of your list? In order
:38:01. > :38:05.to... There are so many issues here, where do you start? We want to
:38:06. > :38:09.tighten the borders we have, tighten the checks that need to come in
:38:10. > :38:14.through the ports, we have been working with Dover port, we have
:38:15. > :38:18.been working with them with our puppy pilot, and that has actually
:38:19. > :38:21.helped manage to check a lot of these puppies and to try and bring
:38:22. > :38:26.them through our care. Those puppies otherwise would not have been looked
:38:27. > :38:29.after in the way we do. It is not do with the numbers of border
:38:30. > :38:34.officials? There is is a lot of things we are looking for, so one of
:38:35. > :38:37.the top lines is asking that the carriers of these animals, so this
:38:38. > :38:40.is the boats and Eurostar are not the people responsible for the
:38:41. > :38:43.check, we are asking for the Government to step in, and to be the
:38:44. > :38:47.people responsible for those checks. In order to provide weekend and out
:38:48. > :38:51.of hour checks, because at the moment, we are not seeing those
:38:52. > :38:56.regularly. Sure and that might be a money issue. Let me bring in Peter
:38:57. > :39:04.and Matt and Hayley. Tell us about Enid. I can hear her sort of, is
:39:05. > :39:09.that a happy grumble. I think so. She is fairly comfortable. He is a
:39:10. > :39:13.different dog to the one who came into Battersea in January this year.
:39:14. > :39:17.You think from a puppy farm. We are almost certain, she was displaying
:39:18. > :39:23.horrific injuries are and health conditions, Like what? Her hips are
:39:24. > :39:28.badly deformed. She can't walk or sit properly. She has a heart
:39:29. > :39:34.condition and her skin was more like a reptile and that a dog. It was
:39:35. > :39:39.scaly and inflamed. Our staff worked wonders and we found her a wonderful
:39:40. > :39:43.home with one of my colleagues. Charities like Battersea, we are
:39:44. > :39:48.able to help as many as we can, not every dog has that second chance.
:39:49. > :39:54.Sure. What is happening on a puppy farm then, a poorly run puppy farm
:39:55. > :39:59.which meant she has so many complications? Breeders are putting
:40:00. > :40:03.profit before animal welfare and flooding the market with badly bred
:40:04. > :40:09.puppies. What does that mean? It means in many cases inbreeding so
:40:10. > :40:12.you might have a father bred with a daughter, and that is just
:40:13. > :40:17.exaggerating genetic conditions that are causing terrible health problem,
:40:18. > :40:20.but also, terrible welfare condition, the state of some of the
:40:21. > :40:25.farms is too shocking to believe really and the dogs that are coming
:40:26. > :40:30.out of there have a tough life ahead and the worst possible start. So it
:40:31. > :40:34.is the scale of the operation and it's a fact that unsuspecting
:40:35. > :40:40.members of the British public are being drawn towards designer breeds,
:40:41. > :40:45.the bulldogs and pulling pugs and so on and the dogs are generating
:40:46. > :40:50.terrible problems later. You would look at Enid and wouldn't have a
:40:51. > :40:57.clue. Let me bring in Matt and Hayley. Matt, tell us about when you
:40:58. > :41:02.bought Pippen. What happens to him? Well, we went to a farm, run by what
:41:03. > :41:08.seemed to be lovely people, there was the mother there, the Bishop
:41:09. > :41:14.there, with -- bitch with three other brothers and sister, it looked
:41:15. > :41:20.like a proper breeder's house. But there was certain things resting on
:41:21. > :41:24.the back of my mind. I have seen on BBC, Watchdog, about puppy farms
:41:25. > :41:28.then and the in the back of my mind I kept thinking puppy farm, but, I
:41:29. > :41:33.don't know, I was trying to knock things back, I was trying to look
:41:34. > :41:40.past that, not trying to be too focussed on puppy farm, asking lots
:41:41. > :41:45.of questions, even bent down and went to the bitch's the mother's
:41:46. > :41:52.belly, thinking is that dog or a bitch. You heard stories about how
:41:53. > :42:01.people, pups take dogs in with the pups to make it look like a little
:42:02. > :42:05.family. Everything seemed OK. Two days later he got diagnosed with a
:42:06. > :42:10.heart condition and three weeks later she passed away unfortunately.
:42:11. > :42:16.And do, can I... In and out of vets all the time. Numerous thing,
:42:17. > :42:24.diarrhoea, blood in her excrement. Coughing. Seemed like kennel cough,
:42:25. > :42:29.lots of issue, not the thing you should happen with a puppy, with a
:42:30. > :42:33.new life with family, it should be joyous, enjoyable times. Not going
:42:34. > :42:42.back-and-forth to the vet. Do you mind me asking how much you paid for
:42:43. > :42:48.Pippen. ?450. Hayley tell us what happened with Marley. We dent down,
:42:49. > :42:55.we saw an advert for Marley on gum tree. Went down to visit the puppy,
:42:56. > :42:59.she was the only one left, we were told she was 11 weeks, then we were
:43:00. > :43:05.told she was 13 weeks when we got her. Obviously we were looking for a
:43:06. > :43:12.younger puppy. She was in a pen by herself, which was, you know, sort
:43:13. > :43:15.of rung alarm bells but she was so cute, and, all these things like,
:43:16. > :43:19.all these niggling feelings go out of your mind when you see this
:43:20. > :43:25.puppy, you get this feeling you are rescuing them. You know, I am going
:43:26. > :43:31.to pause you, both you and Matt had doubts. You both expressed those
:43:32. > :43:40.this morning, and, and still went ahead, I mean clearly that, you
:43:41. > :43:46.know, that is a regret. Think a lot of the time these people prey on
:43:47. > :43:50.that particular thing, like, they see that you love that puppy, as
:43:51. > :43:55.soon as you see it. If that makes sense. I have a couple of comments
:43:56. > :43:57.from people listening to the conversation round the country.
:43:58. > :44:00.Ahead, I mean clearly that, you know, that is a regret. Think a lot
:44:01. > :44:02.of the time these people prey on that particular thing, like, they
:44:03. > :44:05.see that you love that puppy, as soon as you see it. If that makes
:44:06. > :44:07.sense. I have a couple of comments from people listening to the
:44:08. > :44:10.conversation round the country. Richie says "Dog lovers don't buy
:44:11. > :44:13.dogs like this." People who want a dog to flatter their vanity and want
:44:14. > :44:15.a dog as a fashion statement buy dogs like this. This. Jerome says
:44:16. > :44:18.the dog Bayers are not dog lovers if they don't take the time to ensure
:44:19. > :44:21.where the dog has come from. What do you say to that Hayley? I think in
:44:22. > :44:30.this circumstances we got caught out. We made a big mistake. But, at
:44:31. > :44:35.the time, it wasn't something that you thought of, obviously it's a big
:44:36. > :44:42.thing now, you know you know. I don't think that necessarily it
:44:43. > :44:48.depend on breed, or what type of dog it is. What would you say Matt? We
:44:49. > :44:52.didn't want a fashion statement. We wanted a healthy puppy to join our
:44:53. > :45:00.family. As far as I was concerned we did everything we could. We went on
:45:01. > :45:07.the RSPC website, to ask the right sort of question, to look at the
:45:08. > :45:13.environment, and, in the back of my mind I was concerned it was a puppy
:45:14. > :45:17.farm, but, was that just a, a thought that was lingering that was
:45:18. > :45:21.lingering from the TV shows? I didn't want to put a downer, I
:45:22. > :45:28.wanted a happy puppy and healthy puppy. Of course you did.
:45:29. > :45:34.Are there well run puppy farms? I have not found a well run puppy farm
:45:35. > :45:39.yet I will be honest. My advice to anyone wanting to acquire a dog is
:45:40. > :45:44.to source it from a reputable organisation. If you are determined
:45:45. > :45:49.to get a puppy from a breeder, do your research. Check the paperwork.
:45:50. > :45:52.Meet the puppy with its mother. See the puppy interact with its mother.
:45:53. > :46:00.Do everything you can to ensure the puppy you're buying has been
:46:01. > :46:05.responsibly bred and reared. Sorr they are too clever now. Sorry to
:46:06. > :46:11.interrupt. Go ahead. They are getting clever. You scom on the TV
:46:12. > :46:15.like this, you give everybody the advice, but these alleged breeders
:46:16. > :46:19.are thinking right, how can we cover our tracks now? We will do that like
:46:20. > :46:22.they did to me amy family. They made the environment look like everything
:46:23. > :46:26.was a happy breeding home environment. Everything was perfect.
:46:27. > :46:32.Answering the right sort of questions. One or two little falls,
:46:33. > :46:36.but just putting that to the back of your mind thinking, I'm looking too
:46:37. > :46:40.much at that WAG show the other week. What would you say to Matt? I
:46:41. > :46:46.have a lot of sympathy for Matt and lots of people have been caught out.
:46:47. > :46:50.The farmers and the dealers are trying all sorts of tricks to fool
:46:51. > :46:55.buyers. It is a competitive market and a lot of it is being conducted
:46:56. > :47:03.online. Take great care and the best place for a dog is a rescue. That's
:47:04. > :47:14.the best source for it. Thank you very much for coming on the
:47:15. > :47:17.programme. Enid was so well-behaved. Thank you very much.
:47:18. > :47:19.Fresh from her stunning Wimbledon performance,
:47:20. > :47:24.Johanna Konta will be taking your questions.
:47:25. > :47:30.Get in touch using the hashtag VictoriaLIVE.
:47:31. > :47:35.There are calls this morning for children on the poverty line
:47:36. > :47:40.to be offered free meals outside of term-time.
:47:41. > :47:43.As summer holidays begin across the UK MPs are warning that
:47:44. > :47:46.as many as three million children could go hungry this summer.
:47:47. > :47:48.Some local councils in deprived areas of Scotland and Wales provide
:47:49. > :47:51.free meals for children outside of school terms and there
:47:52. > :47:54.are calls for this to be rolled out nationally.
:47:55. > :47:57.In Thanet in Kent, the charity End Child Poverty, claim 34%
:47:58. > :48:04.of children live below the poverty line.
:48:05. > :48:06.There, we met mum of four Kerry, who didn't want
:48:07. > :48:21.She's worried about how she'll cope during the holidays.
:48:22. > :48:23.Wow, you lot have really caned this cheese.
:48:24. > :48:34.For lunch, it would be, again, something basic.
:48:35. > :48:37.Some cucumber for a bit of nourishment.
:48:38. > :48:42.So, you've got your crisps and you've got...
:48:43. > :48:44.We need to get some fruit in, the cheapest fruit,
:48:45. > :49:01.I'm also going through a separation which means a new claim
:49:02. > :49:10.My housing benefit has been stopped, so I am going to hugely
:49:11. > :49:17.At the moment, how much do I have to spend?
:49:18. > :49:26.I look at it and I think I actually don't have anything, but...
:49:27. > :49:29.Yeah, my shopping bill has got down to about ?30 a week.
:49:30. > :49:37.For five of us - four children and myself.
:49:38. > :49:43.That is going to actually double the balance of what I need
:49:44. > :49:46.At least ?50 a shop, I'm going to need.
:49:47. > :50:01.We're in one of the most deprived areas in the UK.
:50:02. > :50:05.The huge problem we have got around here is the lack of employment.
:50:06. > :50:08.Up to half of the children in this area are living in poverty.
:50:09. > :50:13.How are families around here going to cope over the summer?
:50:14. > :50:15.I think it's going to be something that comes up
:50:16. > :50:23.It's all happening the same week as we've got universal
:50:24. > :50:25.credits being brought in, being enroled into the Thanet area
:50:26. > :50:28.That is going to be another huge shock.
:50:29. > :50:31.If somebody, a family, needs to make a fresh claim
:50:32. > :50:33.during the summer holidays, they are going to be
:50:34. > :50:45.So, do you think children around here are going to go
:50:46. > :50:57.I think a lot of people wouldn't want to admit they can't
:50:58. > :51:03.It will be the working poor that suffer too.
:51:04. > :51:08.But it is just so hard and so gut wrenching and stressful,
:51:09. > :51:13.extra worries put on top of extra worries, and this is
:51:14. > :51:19.There's so little support for so many.
:51:20. > :51:24.With these guys, they don't obviously see the...
:51:25. > :51:27.I don't want them to see the panic of how desperate
:51:28. > :51:36.It's not as some politicians will say, to buy a new widescreen TV.
:51:37. > :51:38.We're not saving pennies for anything like that.
:51:39. > :51:40.We are saving to buy butter, milk and bread,
:51:41. > :51:45.and it is literally as tight as that.
:51:46. > :51:50.Let's talk to Frank Field a Labour MP who chairs the All Party
:51:51. > :51:54.He wants councils to be made responsible for free
:51:55. > :52:01.Erica Martin, who has two children, an 11-year-old boy
:52:02. > :52:05.She lives with her partner who is a carer.
:52:06. > :52:08.She receives income support and tax credits and reckons after housing
:52:09. > :52:13.costs she has about ?140 a week to live on for her family of four.
:52:14. > :52:19.Welcome both of you. Erika, I know you get free school meals during
:52:20. > :52:26.term time. What happens during the holidays? Well, during the holidays,
:52:27. > :52:29.there is an organisation called the St James Centre who offer free meal
:52:30. > :52:35.to say anybody. They offer breakfast and lunch. It takes the strain off
:52:36. > :52:40.most people. And that is for anybody whether they are working or not
:52:41. > :52:44.working. So it's really helpful. And if that wasn't there, if the St
:52:45. > :52:51.James' centre wasn't there, what would you do in the holidays? Just
:52:52. > :52:56.try and spread the meals out and work out what, how we can sort of
:52:57. > :53:01.eat the best way, but it's the same for anybody I think. There is a lot
:53:02. > :53:05.of struggles in the suller holidays with days out Arthings like that so
:53:06. > :53:11.you need to work it out the best you can. Let me bring in Frank Field
:53:12. > :53:15.then. A report from a group of MPs this year talked about three million
:53:16. > :53:19.children being hungry during the summer holidays. Some people won't
:53:20. > :53:23.believe it. They will say look, we live in the fifth richest economy in
:53:24. > :53:27.the world. This is Britain. This is 2017, come on, you can always feed
:53:28. > :53:32.your kids. What do you say to those people? They should be sceptical and
:53:33. > :53:38.push MPs when they produce figures like that. We have had the long-term
:53:39. > :53:40.changes occurring, the bottom of the labour market has fallen out. All
:53:41. > :53:45.the welfare cuts have been on families, pensioners have been
:53:46. > :53:53.protected and pensioners have never been before off as a group than they
:53:54. > :53:58.are now and we heard about the St James' Centre in Birkenhead, during
:53:59. > :54:03.the school holidays, voluntary bodies feed 2,000 children and over
:54:04. > :54:07.the last year, thanks to largely supplies from His Church we have
:54:08. > :54:13.provided 200,000 breakfasts for children. So, it is a topsy-turvy
:54:14. > :54:18.world. You would have thought fifth or sixth richest country in the
:54:19. > :54:24.world, and yet, some children go to bed hungry and get up hungry and
:54:25. > :54:28.take the hunger to school. We are trying to make sure during the term
:54:29. > :54:33.time that children are well fed, but saying to the Government you have a
:54:34. > :54:43.duty now to require local authorities to co-ordinate what
:54:44. > :54:48.we're trying to do in Birkenhead and Feeding Britain is doing this
:54:49. > :54:55.elsewhere in the country. Local authorities... They haven't got any
:54:56. > :54:59.money. Their budgets are stretched. They decide their priorities. You
:55:00. > :55:03.would organise this is a priority. It would be ring-fenced so they
:55:04. > :55:08.couldn't go and spend it on something else. Feeding children
:55:09. > :55:12.during the school holidays when we know that numbers going to foodbanks
:55:13. > :55:17.goes up. One little girl last summer came to one of our projects and
:55:18. > :55:20.because we always provide fun with the meals, because middle-class kids
:55:21. > :55:24.thank god get fun during the holidays, why shouldn't the poorest
:55:25. > :55:28.children get that, she said I am so hungry, might I come in, I don't
:55:29. > :55:33.mind not having the fun, but may I have the food please? How do you
:55:34. > :55:37.react to that? Well, it is gut wrenching and redoubling the
:55:38. > :55:41.efforts, not only in Birkenhead, but making sure that we can get that
:55:42. > :55:44.service rolled out over the whole country. Not again for the local
:55:45. > :55:51.authorities to provide, but they have a duty to make sure like we've
:55:52. > :55:56.done throughout feeding Britain projects that we combine voluntary
:55:57. > :56:05.bodies who have been terrific in Birkenhead, are given the resources
:56:06. > :56:09.to make sure that every child, even though we provide 2,000 meals during
:56:10. > :56:16.the school holidays, there was that little girl turning up, she hent
:56:17. > :56:20.been covered saying, "Can I come in, I'm hungry?" You will have heard
:56:21. > :56:26.some say it is because parents can't budget properly? There are clearly
:56:27. > :56:30.parents who couldn't give a toss and it is ludicrous to deny and you
:56:31. > :56:34.wonder why the hell they have got children and then there are others
:56:35. > :56:42.who are at their wits end trying to do their best by their children. Who
:56:43. > :56:44.are driven almost mad by the difficulties of budgeting
:56:45. > :56:49.particularly when the Government takes money off by sanction.
:56:50. > :56:54.Particularly we are now at the almost at the end of this of we hope
:56:55. > :57:00.a period of welfare cuts for families. As I say pensioners had a
:57:01. > :57:05.good deal, but those with children have seen their real living
:57:06. > :57:09.standards cut and we have got all the evidence one would wish to see
:57:10. > :57:13.before particularly from teachers in schools who have been providing in
:57:14. > :57:20.Birkenhead breakfasts out of their own money now actually signing up
:57:21. > :57:26.for the actual supplies, bodies like His Church provide so they can
:57:27. > :57:31.provide breakfasts free. We are after getting the Government to do
:57:32. > :57:35.its duty. A viewer on fwirt says, "The true
:57:36. > :57:41.legacy of the crash caused by bankers is three million kids in
:57:42. > :57:45.poverty. They are the victims. ." Jackie on Twitter, "We are saving
:57:46. > :57:47.for butter, bread and milk. This Government is heartless and I'm
:57:48. > :57:50.utterly, utterly ashamed of it." A spokesperson for the Department
:57:51. > :57:52.for Work and Pensions told us: "There are record numbers
:57:53. > :57:55.of people in work, and we've ?90 billion is spent supporting
:57:56. > :57:58.people who are out of work, disabled or a carer,
:57:59. > :58:13.bringing up a family Frank Field thank you very much and
:58:14. > :58:17.Erika Martin, thank you. Thank you for your comments on puppy
:58:18. > :58:21.farm and where you buy puppies from and on the campaign to get mesh
:58:22. > :58:24.implants suspended in England and Wales and Northern Ireland.
:58:25. > :58:27.That reaches the Westminster Parliament today. Already been
:58:28. > :58:31.suspended in Scotland as you will know if you have been watching our
:58:32. > :58:35.programme over the last few months. Marie on e-mail says, "I have had
:58:36. > :58:38.two mesh operations on my bladder and now I'm concerned about what I
:58:39. > :58:43.need to do, what is the alternative?" Alison says, "Why does
:58:44. > :58:47.the NHS not look at best practise elsewhere? Is it about cost saving?
:58:48. > :58:51.I Monday wonder how ed operations would be avoided by the French
:58:52. > :58:58.policy of routine physiotherapy for new mums?" And Hilary has e-mailed,
:58:59. > :59:07."18 years ago, I had two pregnancy which left me with a few incouldn't
:59:08. > :59:12.tentance problems. Thank god I was offered intensive physio. The
:59:13. > :59:15.exercises which I do have almost eliminated my problems and having
:59:16. > :59:20.seen your previous coverage on the subject, I have cancelled both of my
:59:21. > :59:27.corrective ops after a lot of sole searching. It didn't seem worth the
:59:28. > :59:34.risks. " On puppy farms and the illegal breeding and transporting of
:59:35. > :59:37.puppies from Eastern Europe, Donna texts this, "I have e-mailed my MP
:59:38. > :59:41.whilst watching your programme. It breaks my heart. This is too cruel.
:59:42. > :59:46.Thank you for highlighting this and telling us how to help end the cruel
:59:47. > :59:50.poupy farms." Thank you for those. We will bring you the latest news
:59:51. > :59:56.and sport in a moment. Before that, the weather. Good morning. Yesterday
:59:57. > :59:59.temperatures got up to 27 Celsius in the south. Today we could see the
:00:00. > :00:05.temperature reaching about 30 Celsius.
:00:06. > :00:09.This morning, it started off cloudy. Some hazy sunshine out there. This
:00:10. > :00:12.was the scene in Warwickshire a short time ago, but there is
:00:13. > :00:14.sunshine particularly across the far south of England and across Scotland
:00:15. > :00:20.and Northern Ireland. Some blue skies here as well. Another warm and
:00:21. > :00:25.sunny day, but later ob, the risk of some storms. These storms are just
:00:26. > :00:31.developing now actually across the Bay of Biscay and Britney. You
:00:32. > :00:36.notice the oranges developing. Temperatures getting up to about 20,
:00:37. > :00:39.21 Celsius in the southment for the rest of this morning, the cloud we
:00:40. > :00:44.have got in central areas will thin or break up to give sunny spells,
:00:45. > :00:48.but by far the west best of the sunshine is across Scotland and
:00:49. > :00:51.Northern Ireland. Here with the blue skies, temperatures getting up to 25
:00:52. > :00:56.or 26 Celsius in Western Scotland and Northern Ireland.
:00:57. > :01:01.A bit fresher along the North Sea coasts. The heat really building
:01:02. > :01:05.across the south. We could see temperatures up to 29 and 30
:01:06. > :01:09.Celsius. But by this stage, we will start to see showers moving in
:01:10. > :01:10.across the south-west. Those turning increasingly thundery as we go
:01:11. > :01:16.through this evening and tonight. wanted a happy puppy and healthy
:01:17. > :01:24.puppy. Of course you did. There you catch a shower there will
:01:25. > :01:28.be strong winds, torrential rain as the thund thunderstorms move their
:01:29. > :01:32.way northwards. Overnight temperatures no lower than to 18 C.
:01:33. > :01:36.On Wednesday, the thunderstorms still a feature of the weather. This
:01:37. > :01:41.time in northern area, gradually moving further into Scotland, and
:01:42. > :01:44.the meantime, more rain spreads into Northern Ireland, gradually moving
:01:45. > :01:49.eastwards, elsewhere, one or two showers round but still hot across
:01:50. > :01:54.the south-east, temperatures 30, 31, maybe 32, but just turning that bit
:01:55. > :01:58.fresher in northern and western area, 18-20 degrees here, as we go
:01:59. > :02:03.into Thursday, we have this cold front, which is moving east ward,
:02:04. > :02:07.behind it, fresher air, and that is fresher air will filter in across
:02:08. > :02:11.all parts during Thursday. Early morning rain clearing away, more
:02:12. > :02:16.rain spreading into the west but look at the temperatures, 16-22
:02:17. > :02:20.degree f you don't like the heat, Thursday certainly turning fresher,
:02:21. > :02:25.fresher still on Friday but the risk of heavy rain in northern around
:02:26. > :02:30.western areas that will move south and east ward: Bye.
:02:31. > :02:32.Hello, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
:02:33. > :02:36.A BBC investigation has found that only a small fraction
:02:37. > :02:38.of the money donated as part of the Grenfell Tower fire appeal
:02:39. > :02:41.has so far reached survivors or relatives of the dead.
:02:42. > :02:43.Also on the programme - campaigners calling for the urgent
:02:44. > :02:46.suspension of vaginal mesh implants in England are taking their case
:02:47. > :02:49.One women tells this programme the devastating impact her implant
:02:50. > :03:06.I am on horrendous pain medication, my ability to concentrate, I have
:03:07. > :03:11.brain fog all the time. We'll also be speaking
:03:12. > :03:13.to a gynaecologist who has been warning about the dangers
:03:14. > :03:24.of the implant since the 1990s. Also this: R Kelly has denied
:03:25. > :03:26.reports he is holding women in an abusive cult. We will bring you the
:03:27. > :03:28.full story, in the next half hour. We will bring you the full story,
:03:29. > :03:31.in the next half hour. Johanna Konta, the women's number
:03:32. > :03:46.four player in the world will be It's been 39 years since a British
:03:47. > :03:48.woman can say I'm a Wimbledon semifinalist. She did a bit more
:03:49. > :03:50.than that. You know what she did. If you want to ask her a question -
:03:51. > :03:55.do get in touch - and we'll Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom,
:03:56. > :04:08.with a summary of todays news. A BBC investigation has
:04:09. > :04:11.found that only a small fraction of the money donated
:04:12. > :04:13.as part of the Grenfell Tower fire appeal, has
:04:14. > :04:15.so far reached survivors Almost ?20 million has been
:04:16. > :04:21.raised and 40,000 boxes But less than ?800,000 has
:04:22. > :04:25.been given out so far. An estimated 174 tonnes of items -
:04:26. > :04:28.such as clothing - were donated and are still being sorted
:04:29. > :04:50.by the British Red Cross. Consumer price inflation at which
:04:51. > :04:57.the rate of prices and goods rise or fall stood at 2.6% in June, down
:04:58. > :05:01.from 2.in May it follows falls in global oil prices.
:05:02. > :05:03.Campaigners are calling for an urgent suspension of vaginal
:05:04. > :05:06.mesh implants in England after this programme revealed that hundreds
:05:07. > :05:08.of women are living with chronic pain and complications.
:05:09. > :05:11.The mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat organ prolapse
:05:12. > :05:20.and urinary incontinence which can be common
:05:21. > :05:24.Campaigners are calling for further research into the scale of the
:05:25. > :05:29.problem. The reality is they don't know how
:05:30. > :05:35.many women are suffering, I have said before, I have seen reports
:05:36. > :05:39.that say it is anything from is a %, 30%, 40%, you, nobody knows, so, you
:05:40. > :05:43.can't, I don't understand how they can say the Ben fights outweigh the
:05:44. > :05:53.risk without having proper data to back it up.
:05:54. > :05:56.At reception in the commons, the Prime Minister warned that the
:05:57. > :06:01.choice was her or Jeremy Corbyn, in Downing Street. It is a call for
:06:02. > :06:02.unity that she is expected to repeat this morning when she meets the
:06:03. > :06:06.cabinet. There should be stronger regulation
:06:07. > :06:08.of advertisements which show men failing at simple household tasks
:06:09. > :06:11.and women left to clean up - according to the body that oversees
:06:12. > :06:14.advertising in the UK. The Advertising Standards Authority
:06:15. > :06:16.has been reviewing its approach to ads that feature
:06:17. > :06:18.stereotypical gender roles. It concluded that such ads had
:06:19. > :06:20."costs for individuals, As a result, it says it
:06:21. > :06:30.will draw up new rules. That's a summary of the latest BBC
:06:31. > :06:33.News - more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us
:06:34. > :06:35.throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged
:06:36. > :06:39.at the standard network rate. Here's some sport now
:06:40. > :06:41.with Hugh Ferris. England's women can reach
:06:42. > :06:44.their second final in three attempts They take on South Africa
:06:45. > :06:49.in the semi final in Bristol The winner will take on either
:06:50. > :06:59.Australia or India in the final England have won their last six
:07:00. > :07:02.games in the tournament, and finished first of the four
:07:03. > :07:16.semi-finalists in the group stage. Obviously there be added nerves, we
:07:17. > :07:22.wouldn't be human if that wasn't the case. We trust in our skills and we
:07:23. > :07:24.are confident we can put in a strong performance and those big games you
:07:25. > :07:28.England's men have been criticised for showing a lack of respect
:07:29. > :07:30.for test cricket after losing heavily to South
:07:31. > :07:35.The suggestion came from former England captain Michael Vaughan...
:07:36. > :07:37.The suggestion came from former England captain Michael Vaughan,
:07:38. > :07:39.who is a good friend of new captain Joe Root...
:07:40. > :07:42.Who was one of the batsmen who failed to make an impact
:07:43. > :07:44.in England's second innings score of 133 all out.
:07:45. > :07:53.there could still be changes for the Third Test
:07:54. > :08:02.There has opinion a contrast in motions, but I think we obviously
:08:03. > :08:05.need to look at certain areas but we don't want to dwell on them. We need
:08:06. > :08:10.to stay tight as a squad and make sure when we turn up we that we are
:08:11. > :08:12.ready to go, and make sure we go 2-1 up in the series.
:08:13. > :08:14.and make sure we go 2-1 up in the series.
:08:15. > :08:17.Romelu Lukaku has scored his first goal in a Manchester United shirt
:08:18. > :08:21.in their friendly against Real Salt Lake.
:08:22. > :08:23.It was the ?5 million signing's first start
:08:24. > :08:27.And he helped United come from behind to win 2-1 in Utah.
:08:28. > :08:33.And Juan Mata forced off with an ankle injury.
:08:34. > :08:38.And that is all we have for the moment. Headlines just after half
:08:39. > :08:41.Headlines just after half ten Good morning.
:08:42. > :08:44.R singer R Kelly has denied allegations that he is holding
:08:45. > :08:45.several young women in an "abusive cult".
:08:46. > :09:03.# I believe I can fly # I believe I can touch the sky
:09:04. > :09:04.# I think about it every night and day
:09:05. > :09:06.# Spread my wings and fly away. # A BuzzFeed report accuses the singer
:09:07. > :09:10.of brainwashing women, who got closer to him in an effort
:09:11. > :09:13.to boost their musical careers. .The 50 year old has faced previous
:09:14. > :09:15.accusations of sexual misconduct, His lawyer says on these latest
:09:16. > :09:22.allegations, he'll work "diligently and forcibly to pursue his accusers
:09:23. > :09:29.and clear his name". We should be clear that as adults,
:09:30. > :09:32.these woman are free to consent to any form of relationship and that
:09:33. > :09:35.police welfare checks in Illinois and Georgia did not lead
:09:36. > :09:38.to any action being taken. The families of one of the women has
:09:39. > :09:52.called for her to come home. Release these girls. And put them
:09:53. > :09:58.back where they belong. My daughter was off in college at the time, and
:09:59. > :10:03.she was, I haven't seen her since. I have pictures of where the house
:10:04. > :10:07.was, inside this house where he resided, where rooms set up for like
:10:08. > :10:12.a hotel for the girls, to stay in and he also had a black room, where
:10:13. > :10:20.he had, where they do different sexual acts in and he had the
:10:21. > :10:29.separate room, three separate rooms, which they had all like set up. My
:10:30. > :10:36.daughter is severely brainwashed, to the point where she says anything he
:10:37. > :10:40.asks her to say, she is not the same Jocelyn that we knew, so we just
:10:41. > :10:46.want him to release her and let her go and get on with her life. She has
:10:47. > :10:50.taken too many young girls over the years and I just want her home and
:10:51. > :10:52.to try to get her rehabilitated to the Jocelyn we know and miss.
:10:53. > :10:56.In an interview with the entertainment website TMZ,
:10:57. > :11:04.their daughter Jocelyn Savage denied that she was being held hostage.
:11:05. > :11:12.I'm 21, I am about to be 22 in five days and I mainly want to say that I
:11:13. > :11:16.am in a happy place with my life, and I'm not being brainwashed or
:11:17. > :11:22.anything like that, you know, it came to a point where it has got out
:11:23. > :11:26.of hand, so you know, I just want everybody to know my parents and
:11:27. > :11:32.everybody in the world, that I am totally fine, I'm happy where I'm at
:11:33. > :11:35.and everything is OK with me. You are not being held against your will
:11:36. > :11:43.or doing anything you do not want to do? Oh, no. Not at all. Never been
:11:44. > :11:49.held hostage or anything of that nature. Why is your family coming
:11:50. > :11:54.forward and have asked for a welfare check, why do you think now? I
:11:55. > :11:57.personally, I don't really know what's going on with that, so I
:11:58. > :12:03.wouldn't want to answer that, at this moment. The last time I spoke
:12:04. > :12:08.to my parents may have been about on and off about five, six months, I
:12:09. > :12:12.haven't spoken to them. They have been causing problems in my life,
:12:13. > :12:16.saying I have been held against my will, stuff like that, I am very
:12:17. > :12:20.heartbroken, of what is going on with this situation, it is getting
:12:21. > :12:24.to a point where it is getting too much out of hand, you know, me
:12:25. > :12:29.having to deal with this and being 22, is just, you know it is not
:12:30. > :12:33.right, so I haven't spoken to them mainly in about five or six months
:12:34. > :12:37.really. On and off. I mean they will text me from time to time, but, I
:12:38. > :12:44.haven't really wanted to speak to them because of what they're doing.
:12:45. > :12:50.Are you in Georgia or where are you? I'm not, no, I'm not. I wouldn't
:12:51. > :12:54.want to speak on that. Are you with or roommates, are you free to go
:12:55. > :12:59.from where you are? No. I won't speak on that as well.
:13:00. > :13:02.Wow. The story was broken by BuzzFeed.
:13:03. > :13:05.Sam Wolfson has been following the story.
:13:06. > :13:08.He is the Executive Editor of Vice UK.
:13:09. > :13:14.Let us start with the accusations against R Kelly, because there are
:13:15. > :13:19.many of them and they are detailed and they come from three women who
:13:20. > :13:23.have left him. Yes. I mean the story is very well reported, like you say
:13:24. > :13:28.there are lots of sources and they all seem to talk about a similar
:13:29. > :13:32.pattern of behaviour, that I say that these women, R Kelly would
:13:33. > :13:37.offer them moussical opportunities and they would move into homes
:13:38. > :13:41.either his or in the area, and almost immediately they would have
:13:42. > :13:45.to dress in the same way, he wanted them to wear sweat pants so other
:13:46. > :13:49.men wouldn't look at them. They had to ask for permission to go to
:13:50. > :13:52.bathroom or leave the room. They were reporting he would physically
:13:53. > :13:58.attack them if they spoke to other men or he thought they were looking
:13:59. > :14:02.at another man. And it is quite a, I mean people are using the world cult
:14:03. > :14:08.and it does seem like that, that he had a kind of big group of women who
:14:09. > :14:13.were all under these very strict worrying rules, and then the
:14:14. > :14:20.probably the most shocking bit is he video tapes sex with all of them,
:14:21. > :14:24.and the reports claim he shared those videos with his friends. We
:14:25. > :14:31.know he said he has done nothing wrong an his lawyer said he will
:14:32. > :14:34.pursue the accuser, these in particular these three women. Tell
:14:35. > :14:41.us a bit about his past, because it is controversial. Yes, I mean, R
:14:42. > :14:46.Kelly, he is a huge R B star, you know, both kind of the club track
:14:47. > :14:51.playing behind us but he does a lot of emotional church music, I Believe
:14:52. > :14:59.I Can Fly one of his biggest hits. Throughout his career he has been
:15:00. > :15:06.dogged by controversy, most famously he was alleged to have married Alia
:15:07. > :15:11.when she was 14. And there has been not one or two, but dozens of other
:15:12. > :15:15.claims against him, many of which there have been settled out of
:15:16. > :15:18.court, many of which involve accusations of sex with under age
:15:19. > :15:22.women, there was one major case for which he was acquitted, but even in
:15:23. > :15:25.that case, there was a piece of video evidence which is part of
:15:26. > :15:30.public record and showed him urinating in the mouth of a woman
:15:31. > :15:35.who was under age at the time, and so, you know, throughout his career
:15:36. > :15:38.there have been this kind of long, he has denied all accusations, he
:15:39. > :15:43.has fought cases very strongly as he plans to do with this case. We heard
:15:44. > :15:47.from Jocelyn there, who said it is fine, I am fine, I can do what I
:15:48. > :15:51.want. It got bizarre when asked where she was and in which home, she
:15:52. > :15:52.didn't want to go into that detail. You hear her parents saying the
:15:53. > :16:01.complete opposite. For a parent watching that video, I
:16:02. > :16:06.don't know how much comfort that would bring. But it is true the
:16:07. > :16:10.women are all adult women and they can make the decisions but I guess
:16:11. > :16:14.what the police need to do in that circumstance is find out if that's
:16:15. > :16:17.actually what st going on if there is undue duress there. It is hard
:16:18. > :16:21.watching that video and seeing it so closely cut so that you would have
:16:22. > :16:25.no idea where she was and things like that. It doesn't seem like an
:16:26. > :16:30.open situation, but these women are saying, all the women who are
:16:31. > :16:34.currently involved with R Kelly saying they are happy and it is a
:16:35. > :16:37.consensual relationship and so on. Is there an end in sight for sexist
:16:38. > :16:42.ads that stereotype men and women? The advertising regulator is calling
:16:43. > :16:47.for them to be banned. We'll be discussing that
:16:48. > :16:54.just after 10.45am. Let's return to our story this
:16:55. > :16:58.morning about fresh calls for an urgent suspension of vaginal
:16:59. > :17:07.mesh implants in England, Wales and Northern Ireland
:17:08. > :17:09.after this programme exclusively revealed hundreds of women
:17:10. > :17:10.are living with chronic pain and complications,
:17:11. > :17:13.following a minor procedure to treat Mesh implants have already been
:17:14. > :17:16.suspended in Scotland and now campaigners are calling for the same
:17:17. > :17:19.to happen in England. He is a retired obstetrician
:17:20. > :17:25.and uro-gynaecologist. He warned about what he sees
:17:26. > :17:27.are the dangers of mesh implant Simon Jackson is a consultant
:17:28. > :17:34.uro-gynaecologist at the John He thinks the mesh has
:17:35. > :17:47.an unfair reputation and it's Good morning both of you. Thank you
:17:48. > :17:52.very much for coming on the programme. John Osborne, you say,
:17:53. > :17:56.effectively, you pretty much predicted the problems with mesh as
:17:57. > :18:03.far back as the 90s, but no one listened to you. In the 60s a
:18:04. > :18:09.previous mesh operations carried out in Oxford and when I was doing
:18:10. > :18:14.research in the 70s I come across those papers. I also at that time,
:18:15. > :18:18.the urologist this is up to ten years after the mesh was put in,
:18:19. > :18:22.were having to take out the meshes they were putting in in the 60s and
:18:23. > :18:27.the operation to take it out is very difficult. It requires a
:18:28. > :18:32.reconstructive surgeon to do it. I spoke to the surgeon last night and
:18:33. > :18:36.he has distinct memories of it. So what were the problems back then?
:18:37. > :18:39.The same as the problems they are having with the mesh. The mesh
:18:40. > :18:46.becomes incorporated into the tissues. It may erode into the you
:18:47. > :18:51.ary that and cause pain. The same thing is happening now. Let me bring
:18:52. > :18:55.in Simon jacks son. Talk to Mr Osborne because you think this
:18:56. > :19:04.operation, this procedure, we should continue with it? Yes. The problem
:19:05. > :19:09.with prolapse and incontinence is that the ligaments are weak. And if
:19:10. > :19:14.we don't do something to strengthen the ligaments the outcomes from
:19:15. > :19:19.surgery are very poor. And mesh is something that can help us with
:19:20. > :19:24.these problems. Undoubtedly there could be problems. But there could
:19:25. > :19:29.be benefits and we need to weigh up the risks and the benefits with
:19:30. > :19:34.these operations. I think the problem is that the risks and
:19:35. > :19:37.benefits are not really properly publicised. The reporting of the
:19:38. > :19:40.complications has not been adequate I don't think and part of the
:19:41. > :19:44.problem is that the surgeons that put in the mesh are not the ones
:19:45. > :19:48.that have to take it out because the skills required to take it out are
:19:49. > :19:53.different to the skills to put it in and there are very few people who
:19:54. > :20:01.have have that skill to operate around the bladder neck without
:20:02. > :20:07.leaving the patient totally incontinent. Do you accept that?
:20:08. > :20:15.Well, we do go into the details and some people haven't and some women
:20:16. > :20:21.haven't been adequately counselled. The mesh we have got most experience
:20:22. > :20:26.with is called the TVTT has been used for urinary stress
:20:27. > :20:32.incontinence. It was introduced in 1996. I have got 17 years experience
:20:33. > :20:36.with that mesh and we have seen some problems, but we haven't seen
:20:37. > :20:42.problems in the majority of our pabts. 17 year data has been
:20:43. > :20:49.published for that operation and it is still being used which is very
:20:50. > :20:53.good for an operation if you think technology moves on quickly in
:20:54. > :20:59.medicine just like in other areas and for an operation to still be
:21:00. > :21:03.probably the gold standard 20 years down the line is pretty I will
:21:04. > :21:08.pressive. Yes, I mean how do you respond to that John Osborne. I
:21:09. > :21:15.don't think it is a gold standard. The fact is it has been overused.
:21:16. > :21:21.Some of the people putting it in, not Simon because especialised in
:21:22. > :21:26.it, it has been put in by general gynaecologists and people who have
:21:27. > :21:29.had the operation when they don't need a operation when they would be
:21:30. > :21:34.better off having physiotherapy. Jane contacted us this morning after
:21:35. > :21:40.watching our konch. She had the mesh prays in 2009 and Simon Jackson who
:21:41. > :21:43.is with us today was her surgeon and he has agreed to talk to her this
:21:44. > :21:48.morning. Jane, can you hear me OK? Yes, I can hear you. So tell us what
:21:49. > :21:54.has happened since you had the mesh implant? I had the mesh down in 2009
:21:55. > :22:01.following extensive stress incontinence. Within months, it had
:22:02. > :22:06.eroded or fallen through into my va inthat. It was like the bristle of a
:22:07. > :22:13.scrubbing brush which cut me and made me bleed. It caused repeated
:22:14. > :22:19.infections. I went back to the hospital, had it trimmed back and
:22:20. > :22:24.stitched over. It subsequently eroded again. I required another
:22:25. > :22:32.operation to trim and stitch it over. It worked for a while. But it
:22:33. > :22:37.is now eroded jet again. I visited my GP a couple of weeks ago and she
:22:38. > :22:43.did an internal inspection and said yes, indeed, it was through. I
:22:44. > :22:47.questioned her at that point and said if it was you, can I ask you
:22:48. > :22:53.honestly would you have this done to yourself? And she said no way. Can I
:22:54. > :23:00.ask you Jane, were you told about the potential complications, the
:23:01. > :23:05.risks? No. Mr Jackson? I'm sorry Jane that you have had these
:23:06. > :23:08.problems. And I can't comment specifically on your case because I
:23:09. > :23:15.don't actually know your name and I haven't seen your case notes. But...
:23:16. > :23:18.Sorry to interrupt, do you believe Jane when she says she was not
:23:19. > :23:28.warned by you about the potential risks? In 2009, I think we knew
:23:29. > :23:34.there were risks. The risks with mesh implants have become apparent
:23:35. > :23:39.over the years. The TVT sling which we put in and we still do put these
:23:40. > :23:44.into women after appropriate counselling has a risk of erosion
:23:45. > :23:50.and we would tell our patients about that. Let me ask Jane. What was said
:23:51. > :23:54.to Jane, I don't know. Were you told about the risks of erosion?
:23:55. > :23:58.Definitely not. It has rubbed my sex life. I can't run. I can't play
:23:59. > :24:05.tennis. I can't ride a horse. It has affected my income. I have been
:24:06. > :24:14.given the advice that I should carry on taking HRT patches. I'm nearly
:24:15. > :24:17.60. And that I will have to take oestrogen cream internally for the
:24:18. > :24:21.rest of my life. La do you want to say to moo pelvic organ prolapse
:24:22. > :24:25.Jackson? He needs to talk directly to women such as myself who have
:24:26. > :24:28.experienced these problems and go on experiencing them. It is not just
:24:29. > :24:36.women, it is also men. I know that's not his area. But it affects men too
:24:37. > :24:43.with hernias. It is life changing. It causes me daily problems. It is a
:24:44. > :24:50.horrendous treatment and I think you have to look at the fact that we
:24:51. > :24:53.worry about putting plastic into oceans and yet we are putting
:24:54. > :24:58.plastic into how old beings. It can't possibly be right. Simon
:24:59. > :25:03.Jackson will you meet Jane? Jane, you have had terrible problems by
:25:04. > :25:09.the sounds of things and we see problems with our own patients and
:25:10. > :25:13.we also see problems from around the UK. We are a mesh centre. With deal
:25:14. > :25:17.with the complications as John as burn was talking about earlier,
:25:18. > :25:21.dealing with some of these complications can be tricky, but for
:25:22. > :25:26.every patient like you, there are many others who have had a very good
:25:27. > :25:31.outcome and I think we need to balance that up and patients do need
:25:32. > :25:38.information and they need to be aware of current guidelines. They
:25:39. > :25:43.need to know what the risks and the potential benefits are for both mesh
:25:44. > :25:48.and non mesh surgery and they make an informed decision.
:25:49. > :25:54.OK. Thank you very much Mr Jackson, thank you for talking to Jane. We
:25:55. > :26:02.appreciate that. Simon Jackson is a consultant euro gynaecologist at the
:26:03. > :26:06.John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford. If you have an experience, be it
:26:07. > :26:12.positive or negative in terms of the mesh implants, then do let me know.
:26:13. > :26:18.Send me an e-mail. Tomorrow we will be live in North
:26:19. > :26:23.Kensington talking to survivors of Grenfell Tower and hearing their
:26:24. > :26:24.frustrations five weeks after the fire which killed at least 80
:26:25. > :26:29.people. The rate of inflation slowed
:26:30. > :26:31.unexpectedly last month, Consumer price inflation -
:26:32. > :26:36.the rate at which the prices of goods and services bought
:26:37. > :26:39.by households rise or fall - stood at 2.6% in June,
:26:40. > :26:45.down from 2.9% in May. Let's talk to Ben Bland. Explain
:26:46. > :26:48.what inflation is. It is the Consumer Prices Index. It is a
:26:49. > :26:51.shopping basket of goods and services that we spend our money on.
:26:52. > :26:55.They compare the difference in prices from this time last year to
:26:56. > :27:00.now and as you say what we have seen is prices are still going up, but
:27:01. > :27:04.not as quickly as they did in May. So, the figure that we have got is
:27:05. > :27:10.2.6% for June compared with the previous June. In May it was 2.9%.
:27:11. > :27:15.It was a four year high in May. So it eased off. Prices are going up.
:27:16. > :27:20.The reason inflation has been going up recently in the last year is
:27:21. > :27:24.after the Brexit vote, the pound weakened, that makes imports more
:27:25. > :27:30.expensive. So that pushes up prices that you and I pay in the shops. Do
:27:31. > :27:35.we have the average earnings figures out today? The latest average
:27:36. > :27:40.earnings figures we have show that average earnings are increasing by
:27:41. > :27:48.2%. When you couple that with That with the inflation figure, if prices
:27:49. > :27:51.are going up 2.6% and prices are outstripping our wages. So we are
:27:52. > :27:53.seeing a squeeze on the cost of living. The other thing that's
:27:54. > :27:56.significant about the inflation figures is because it affects the
:27:57. > :28:01.Bank of England's decision on interest rates. They saw them close,
:28:02. > :28:07.move closer towards perhaps raising interest rates last month. Because
:28:08. > :28:11.of this slowdown in inflation we are less likely to see a rate rise when
:28:12. > :28:18.they meet in August to give their next decision. That will be good
:28:19. > :28:24.news for borrowers because when interest rates go up our mortgages
:28:25. > :28:28.get more expensive. A treasury spokesman said, "We appreciate that
:28:29. > :28:31.some families are concerned about the cost of living which is why we
:28:32. > :28:35.have introduced the national Living Wage and why we have cut taxes for
:28:36. > :28:42.millions of people to help them keep more of what they earn. We are
:28:43. > :28:45.increasing our free childcare offer to help 400,000 working parents."
:28:46. > :28:49.What is interesting is when you break it down and you look at what
:28:50. > :28:54.caused inflation to slow down, the biggest factor has been a fall in
:28:55. > :29:01.the price of fuel. That dropped from May to June. The cost of games, toys
:29:02. > :29:04.and hobby spending, to a lesser extent, but it fell as well. Cost of
:29:05. > :29:06.fuel, furniture and household goods went the other way. Thank you very
:29:07. > :29:10.much, Ben. Johanna Konta, whose incredible
:29:11. > :29:14.performance last week made her first British woman to reach a Wimbledon
:29:15. > :29:16.semi-final since Virginia Wade in 1978, is going to be live with us
:29:17. > :29:19.in the next few minutes, So if you've got something you're
:29:20. > :29:25.dying to find out, get in touch. And will we finally see an end
:29:26. > :29:28.to sexist ads that portray That's an ad from years ago, but
:29:29. > :29:37.they are still being made now. The advertising regulator is looking
:29:38. > :29:45.at introducing new rules. With the news, here's Joanna
:29:46. > :29:47.in the BBC Newsroom. A BBC investigation has found that
:29:48. > :29:50.only a small fraction of the money donated as part
:29:51. > :29:53.of the Grenfell Tower fire appeal has so far reached survivors
:29:54. > :29:58.or relatives of the dead. Around ?20 million has been
:29:59. > :30:00.donated by individuals and But less than ?800,000 has
:30:01. > :30:04.been given out so far. An estimated 174 tonnes of items -
:30:05. > :30:07.such as clothing - were donated and are still being sorted
:30:08. > :30:15.by the British Red Cross. The rate of inflation has
:30:16. > :30:19.slowed down unexpectedly. Prices rose by 2.6%
:30:20. > :30:22.in the year to June - The Office for National Statistics
:30:23. > :30:26.said there had been falls in global oil prices and the cost
:30:27. > :30:36.of computer games. Campaigners are calling for a
:30:37. > :30:39.suspension of vaginal mesh implants after this programme revealed
:30:40. > :30:47.hundreds of women are living with conening pain and complications. The
:30:48. > :30:50.mesh implants are used by surgeons to treat incontinence. Mesh implants
:30:51. > :30:58.have been suspended many Scotland. R Kelly has denied allegations that
:30:59. > :31:05.he is holding several young women in an abusive cult. A BuzzFeed record
:31:06. > :31:10.accuses him of brainwashing women who got Klosser to him in an effort
:31:11. > :31:11.to boost their careers. He said he would works forfully to clear his
:31:12. > :31:15.name. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge -
:31:16. > :31:17.along with Prince George and Princess Charlotte -
:31:18. > :31:20.are continuing their tour of Poland. It's part of a five day
:31:21. > :31:22.tour to Eastern Europe. Last night, Prince William
:31:23. > :31:24.praised Poland's courage, fortitude and bravery
:31:25. > :31:26.in a speech in Warsaw. On the agenda today
:31:27. > :31:28.is a trip to the former Stutthof Concentration Camp
:31:29. > :31:32.in Gdansk. That's a summary of the latest news,
:31:33. > :31:35.join me for BBC Newsroom Here's some sport now
:31:36. > :31:40.with Hugh Ferris. England's women have just
:31:41. > :31:43.begun their Cricket World Cup semi final against South Africa,
:31:44. > :31:46.who won the toss and are These two met during the group
:31:47. > :31:50.stage, a match which England won, one of six in a row that have got
:31:51. > :31:53.them to the last four. Keep up to date with that
:31:54. > :31:57.on BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra. Romelu Lukaku has scored his first
:31:58. > :32:00.goal in Manchester United shirt since joining from Everton
:32:01. > :32:02.for ?75 million. United beat Real Salt lake 2-1
:32:03. > :32:10.in a friendly in Utah. And Johanna Konta has told the BBC
:32:11. > :32:13.she's working towards becoming She's up to fourth in the rankings
:32:14. > :32:17.after reaching the semi-finals at Wimbledon where she lost to Venus
:32:18. > :32:21.Williams. Victoria will be talking to Johanna
:32:22. > :32:33.in just a moment in the programme, Closer to him in an effort to boost
:32:34. > :32:36.their careers. He said he would forcefully to clear his name.
:32:37. > :32:41.Thank you for your comments about mesh implant. Jackie say I am
:32:42. > :32:45.concerned. I have been put on the waiting list and imam considering if
:32:46. > :32:48.I should have the operation. Lesley says I had problems straightaway.
:32:49. > :32:53.Infections one after another and discomfort after going to three
:32:54. > :32:59.different hospitals over seven years, of horrendous pain, it was
:33:00. > :33:04.found the mesh had roareded through my urethra. I underwent surgery.
:33:05. > :33:08.Within two months I had a further erosion leaving me incontinent. I
:33:09. > :33:12.have been told it would be too dangerous to remove all the mesh. I
:33:13. > :33:18.have suffered 17-and-a-half years of chronic pain and infection, it has
:33:19. > :33:27.destroyed my 36 year marriage, the mesh is totally debilitated.
:33:28. > :33:34.Wes says too much trust is placed on the expert. Marlene on text say I am
:33:35. > :33:39.due a hernia op using mesh, are the risk the same. Bony says I was on
:33:40. > :33:42.your programme, I waned to come to London to go Parliament, today but
:33:43. > :33:45.since April my pain has increased and I am now on double the
:33:46. > :33:50.medication. Thank you very much for those. We
:33:51. > :33:54.will feed those through to the sling the mesh campaign who are meeting at
:33:55. > :34:00.Westminster today. The campaign finally reaches Westminster.
:34:01. > :34:03.Eight years ago she was ranked 469th in the world -
:34:04. > :34:05.today she's the fourth best female tennis player in the world.
:34:06. > :34:07.Johanna Konta made history at Wimbledon by becoming the first
:34:08. > :34:15.British woman to reach the semi-final in almost 40 years.
:34:16. > :34:18.# I am free to be the greatest, I'm alive
:34:19. > :34:21.# I am free to be the greatest here tonight
:34:22. > :34:29.There's dormitories behind there and I used to sleep...
:34:30. > :34:35.I actually physically lived pretty much on the tennis court.
:34:36. > :34:44.It has been a dream of mine since I was a young girl and that
:34:45. > :34:47.continues to be my dream and I think will always be, as long
:34:48. > :34:51.I need to keep focusing on my work because I know that
:34:52. > :35:07.# I'm free to be the greatest, I'm alive
:35:08. > :35:13.# I'm free to be the greatest here tonight
:35:14. > :35:14.# The greatest, the greatest, the greatest
:35:15. > :35:47.She is not quite ready so we will talk to her has soon as she is
:35:48. > :35:51.ready. We will talk about schools in the meantime.
:35:52. > :35:54.Next this morning - some schools in England have told
:35:55. > :35:55.this programme they're heading towards the "last resort"
:35:56. > :35:59.That comes despite a potential funding boost from the Department
:36:00. > :36:02.for Education who promised an extra ?1.3 billion per year in school
:36:03. > :36:04.budgets, alongside a shake-up of how funding is allocated.
:36:05. > :36:06.But the cash will be taken from elsewhere
:36:07. > :36:08.in the education budget, such as building free schools -
:36:09. > :36:11.rather than extra money from elsewhere in the government.
:36:12. > :36:13.Education Secretary Justine Greening says she recognised there had been
:36:14. > :36:26.public concern over school funding during the general election.
:36:27. > :36:28.But Labour describe it as "not a penny of new money -
:36:29. > :36:30.their education spokesperson Angela Rayner is here.
:36:31. > :36:33.As is Jo Wincott, headteacher at Sandon Secondary School in Essex
:36:34. > :36:39.which is reducing teaching hours next year.
:36:40. > :36:42.Malcolm Trobe, who is the Deputy General Secretary of one
:36:43. > :36:44.of the big teaching unions - the Association of School
:36:45. > :36:57.We did ask someone from the Department for Education to join us
:36:58. > :37:02.and we asked for a number of Conservative MPs and they all said
:37:03. > :37:08.no. In a moment we will speak to Nick cap stick, the CEO of the White
:37:09. > :37:15.Horse Federation Trust he is sportty of the Government, broadly. I want
:37:16. > :37:19.to start with Jo. If I may. Good morning to you.
:37:20. > :37:24.Yes, I can't hear you, hopefully we will turn your microphone up. I know
:37:25. > :37:27.you are talking to us. You are developing an hour a week's worth of
:37:28. > :37:32.teaching, in fact you can't hear me, so I am going to come back to you.
:37:33. > :37:39.Apparently he can hear, Joe, can you hear me OK? I can. Thank you very
:37:40. > :37:44.much. I apologise for our technical problem, you are still intending
:37:45. > :37:52.dropping an hour a week's worth of teaching pupils next term, why?
:37:53. > :37:56.Basically we have had a cut in budget, of about ?250,000 since
:37:57. > :37:59.2011. We have tried to tighten our belt in every way.
:38:00. > :38:05.PROBLEM WITH SOUND . I am going to pause, something is
:38:06. > :38:10.not right. I do apologise, we do need to hear from you. I am going to
:38:11. > :38:20.bring Angela Rainer Shadow Education Secretary. There will be an increase
:38:21. > :38:26.per pupil according to Justine Greening to 44800 pounds. You must
:38:27. > :38:31.welcome that. -- 4800. Think what Joe was trying to say the 2.8
:38:32. > :38:36.billion that has been taken from the school budget, so this 1.3 billion
:38:37. > :38:38.is for next year, so even from this September, those schools are still
:38:39. > :38:43.facing the cuts that from in training, that is why the head
:38:44. > :38:46.teachers and pupils and parents have been talking about this over the
:38:47. > :38:51.last couple of months because they are feeling the pinch. It is
:38:52. > :38:54.unfortunate that schools are having to make these Riley significant
:38:55. > :38:57.choice, which has never happened before since we have had a state
:38:58. > :39:02.education system fwlsm you welcome the money but it is too late because
:39:03. > :39:05.it is not coming on stream to 2018. Any money going into schools is
:39:06. > :39:08.really important but this is money that has been taken from somewhere
:39:09. > :39:11.else, so there is a question mark about what is going to happen in the
:39:12. > :39:17.other department, they are saying they can find efficiency, but we are
:39:18. > :39:20.not seeing... 600 million is a significant amount. Where is that
:39:21. > :39:23.coming, from the free school, we know that class sizes are increasing
:39:24. > :39:26.and we don't have the school places, so the whole system is in chaos, we
:39:27. > :39:29.have been warning the Government for some time about this, the teachers
:39:30. > :39:35.have been warning the Government about it, and they have not acted
:39:36. > :39:40.and this 1.3 million is nowhere near enough. That is what Justine
:39:41. > :39:43.Greening was doing yesterday. We have to see in September what
:39:44. > :39:48.difference it makes in individual school, because I am sure what Joe
:39:49. > :39:54.would say, we have had flat cash since 2010 so there has been no cash
:39:55. > :39:58.increases into school, there was reions in grant, no money to meet
:39:59. > :40:03.the pay rises, and public sector pay rises have come through, we have had
:40:04. > :40:05.big increases in employers contribution to pensions and
:40:06. > :40:11.National Insurance, when you look at that there have been cost pressures,
:40:12. > :40:17.a lot depend on where a school starts in terms of its base budget,
:40:18. > :40:21.so those schools in lower funded authority are in real significant
:40:22. > :40:27.difficulties. We have some guarantees here, a small increase,
:40:28. > :40:31.zero. 5% increase for every school. A 3% increase is being indicated for
:40:32. > :40:35.the most underfunded school, so in September, let's see how much that
:40:36. > :40:39.means for individual schools. OK. We are nothing if not persistent so we
:40:40. > :40:45.will try again to talk o Joe, because he has made time for us. Can
:40:46. > :40:51.you hear me? I can hear you, yes. Thank goodness for that. Tell us why
:40:52. > :40:57.you making the decision to drop an hour woort of teaching from your
:40:58. > :41:03.pupils neck term? Certainly, yes, we have had about 450,000 cut since
:41:04. > :41:06.2011, that is a cut, on top of which we have increased cost, in terms of
:41:07. > :41:11.National Insurance, contributions the school has to make, and we have
:41:12. > :41:17.tightened our belt as much as we can, to the point where we had to
:41:18. > :41:22.start looking at the curriculum and say we peach -- teach an hour more
:41:23. > :41:26.than most schools and the time has come to reduce that, which saves us
:41:27. > :41:32.about 100,000 which meanses we can balance the budget this career. So
:41:33. > :41:35.when this extra money, it is not new Monday, it has come from elsewhere,
:41:36. > :41:40.recycled from elsewhere, when that comes on stream you can go back up,
:41:41. > :41:46.you can put the extra hour back in, do you think? Well, the key point is
:41:47. > :41:50.it is 2018, so what we have done this year will allow us to balance
:41:51. > :41:56.this year's budget so we will have to stay we are and maintain our 25
:41:57. > :42:03.hours teaching instead of the 26. Thank you very much. Thank you to
:42:04. > :42:10.Angela and Martinful thank you for coming on the programme.
:42:11. > :42:15.If you've got a question for her, do get in touch in the usual ways.
:42:16. > :42:23.It is good to talk tow to you. Tell us ho you look back on your
:42:24. > :42:28.Wimbledon fortnight. I think overall it was terribly exciting. I got to
:42:29. > :42:33.be a part of something that was on a national scale and to feel the
:42:34. > :42:37.support of my home crowd, on Centre Court, on Court One, it was pretty
:42:38. > :42:42.special. Tell us what it is like. Describe what it is like to feel the
:42:43. > :42:49.support of your home crowd. Well, it very much like, it is goose bumps.
:42:50. > :42:53.You get an adrenaline rush, goose bumps when you hear so many people
:42:54. > :42:58.cheering for you, with you, more than anything, it is quite
:42:59. > :43:05.overwhelming. You were responsible for some of the
:43:06. > :43:10.best tennis in the women's game, at Wimbledon, some amazing three
:43:11. > :43:14.setters, particularly against Vici glrks the first week. How do you
:43:15. > :43:21.keep calm when it is eight all in the third set? I think it is keeping
:43:22. > :43:27.a good perspective, acknowledging the fact you and your opponent are
:43:28. > :43:32.playing at a high level, and involves in this epic battle, which
:43:33. > :43:36.I think was so enjoyable, so for the crowd that was there and it was
:43:37. > :43:40.something that as tennis players you want to be involved in those sort of
:43:41. > :43:43.battles, and in that moment at eight all it is enjoying the fact you are
:43:44. > :43:49.there and you get to experience that.
:43:50. > :43:53.I wonder, let us go back few year, when you were ranked in the mid 100,
:43:54. > :43:58.did you think, yes, I can get to the top? I've always believed in my own
:43:59. > :44:02.ability. I have believed that I can be at the top of the game. I have
:44:03. > :44:06.wanted to be at the top of the game, so every, every experience that I
:44:07. > :44:11.have had, every step of the way, I have just tried to use that to my
:44:12. > :44:15.advantage and to use that in a way that is only making me better, and I
:44:16. > :44:20.am really enjoying many I journey, I feel that I am trying to maximise
:44:21. > :44:25.every day and I think I am doing that 95% of the time. I am going to
:44:26. > :44:33.bring in a super fan. OK. Jewels. Hello, how are you? -- Jules.
:44:34. > :44:42.I I can't hear him either. I will try again.
:44:43. > :44:47.I can hear you Victoria. Thank you. Talk to Jo. Congreats on getting to
:44:48. > :44:52.number four in the world. My question is people say the most
:44:53. > :44:58.important bit of a tennis player is what going on between their ear,
:44:59. > :45:04.what has changed mentally for you in your approach in the game to rise to
:45:05. > :45:10.inside the top five in the world? Well, to be honest, actually, not
:45:11. > :45:16.terrible much has changed. It was more a fact of simplify things for
:45:17. > :45:20.me, I am more focussed on process, and what makes me happy outside of
:45:21. > :45:24.tennis as well, and really try to normalise everything. I think when
:45:25. > :45:29.you come through the rankings and through everyone's journey in trying
:45:30. > :45:34.to be the best in their discipline, you can get caught in your own
:45:35. > :45:38.expectations in your own pressures of wanting to not disappoint people
:45:39. > :45:42.around you and I think I found a place where I started playing for me
:45:43. > :45:46.and I started wanting to improve for me, I think that is what happened me
:45:47. > :45:53.relax a bit more, and just enjoy the process of getting better.
:45:54. > :46:01.So the baking has helped then. Sorry. So the baking has helped
:46:02. > :46:05.then? Very much so. Eating the muffins too. Muffins are always
:46:06. > :46:11.good! Thank you very much, Jules. Let me
:46:12. > :46:20.introduce you to Sarah Moss. How are you? Well. Talk to Johanna Konta. I
:46:21. > :46:23.am interested to know what sacrifices you have had to made in
:46:24. > :46:29.order to compete at the level you do? Well, it's more than just my own
:46:30. > :46:34.sacrifices obviously. Growing up I made the sacrifices, the left school
:46:35. > :46:40.to do home schooling so I didn't develop that friends circle and that
:46:41. > :46:45.social circle, but it is a sacrifice on behalf of my family. My family
:46:46. > :46:50.moved Continents and started again with me here. It's much more than
:46:51. > :46:57.just my own sacrifice, it is a family project. But, yeah, I mean, I
:46:58. > :47:02.think each sacrifice that we made it almost made us stronger as a family
:47:03. > :47:08.unit. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you very
:47:09. > :47:12.much. I want to ask you about the scheduling. Was the scheduling fair.
:47:13. > :47:16.Would you have liked to have played on Centre Court more? The scheduling
:47:17. > :47:21.was very kind to me and I got to play all my matches on court one or
:47:22. > :47:24.Centre Court. I really don't have much to complain about, but I have
:47:25. > :47:28.always said that I am always happy with whatever court I'm on, the net
:47:29. > :47:31.is the same height. The lines are painted in the same place and you
:47:32. > :47:38.are still part of the Championships at Wimbledon. So, to me, it was very
:47:39. > :47:43.kind. I got to play some incredible battles on those big stages. Why do
:47:44. > :47:48.you think more men's games were on the show courts than women's? Is
:47:49. > :47:55.that a fact? I don't know the numbers. It is 2-1. That's the
:47:56. > :48:01.ratio? I don't know. I think that's something that needs to be looked at
:48:02. > :48:04.or needs to be assessed in terms of what actually brought in more
:48:05. > :48:10.viewing and more things like that, but honestly I don't know. Andy
:48:11. > :48:17.Murray was one of the players saying that it should be a bit more equal.
:48:18. > :48:25.Well, definitely. We are all striving for more equality in every
:48:26. > :48:32.way. 7.4 million people watched your quarterfinal match on BBC One. Those
:48:33. > :48:35.are astonishing figures. They are astonishing figures, but astonishing
:48:36. > :48:41.figures for women's sport? I think it's brilliant. I think it does
:48:42. > :48:46.break down that barrier between separating men and women's sport and
:48:47. > :48:53.making it sport. It's a sporting event. It is regardless of gender
:48:54. > :49:01.and I think that is only a positive direction for us. What did you think
:49:02. > :49:07.of John McEnroe's comments if Serena Williams was playing men's tennis
:49:08. > :49:11.she would be ranked around 700? I don't think it's particularly
:49:12. > :49:16.relevant because she is not playing on the men's side and like she said,
:49:17. > :49:29.she is busy growing a baby right now! Yeah. Any truth in it at all? I
:49:30. > :49:34.think it's unrealistic because it's incomparable. She doesn't play on
:49:35. > :49:40.the men's circuit. She doesn't play among male players. So it's
:49:41. > :49:46.something that you can't measure that because there is no way of
:49:47. > :49:53.knowing. Sure. If you don't mind, I think you have managed to keep quite
:49:54. > :49:58.a low profile really despite your star being in the trajectory. We
:49:59. > :50:06.wanted to ask quick fire questions. OK. When was the last time you
:50:07. > :50:15.cried? Last time I cried? I think maybe a week ago. Go on. Why? Yes.
:50:16. > :50:22.Why, I think, actually, I'm not too sure. Oh, it was a week... Wait. I
:50:23. > :50:26.can't remember now. Yeah, it was a week ago and I think it was because
:50:27. > :50:32.I was a bit stressed and I forgot something. I left something out of
:50:33. > :50:37.the shopping! Like what? I think I it was because I was making muffins
:50:38. > :50:41.and I think I forgot chocolate chips and I forgot a specific kind of
:50:42. > :50:47.chocolate chip so I was upset with myself. That's just the stress of
:50:48. > :50:52.what else was going on in your life! What about the last time you got
:50:53. > :50:58.really drunk? I think I can count on country hand how many times I have
:50:59. > :51:02.been drunk. I think... I don't actually remember. So it was a while
:51:03. > :51:10.ago. It was so long ago you can't remember. No. What's your guilty
:51:11. > :51:13.secret? Guilty secret? Well, the thick is most people know the guilty
:51:14. > :51:20.secrets because it's generally all to do with food! It is my love for
:51:21. > :51:25.food, pizza, gelato and muffin baking and everyone, that's pretty
:51:26. > :51:29.much as guilty as I get. If you could never play tennis again what
:51:30. > :51:34.would you do instead? I would love to be involved with live music
:51:35. > :51:38.whether it is concert promoting or something along that way, I love
:51:39. > :51:45.live music so I would love to be involved. How about being a roady
:51:46. > :51:54.for U2? Yes. I am an official fan for U 2 anyway! How do you relax?
:51:55. > :51:56.Don't talk about cooking? Eating! LAUGHTER
:51:57. > :52:02.I love to spend time with my family. My close ones. I actually, I enjoy
:52:03. > :52:06.sin masmt I love going to watch films, again live music, I almost
:52:07. > :52:11.actually forced myself to be a bit lazy and to just try and just be on
:52:12. > :52:14.the couch all day or really try to almost do the opposite of what I
:52:15. > :52:18.generally do and that's running around a lot. I do try to make sure
:52:19. > :52:28.I almost become a little immobile for a day. If you could have one
:52:29. > :52:32.wirve, what would it be? One wish? Yes. I think to leave the sport in a
:52:33. > :52:39.better place than I found it. Meaning what? Meaning to I think
:52:40. > :52:45.bring more awareness to tennis, to promote it well, while I'm playing
:52:46. > :52:50.to get more kids playing, to break down barriers of girls and boys
:52:51. > :52:57.playing to make sure that I feel I am just as much promoting it for the
:52:58. > :53:00.young boys as I am for young girls. Just overall to really yeah, leave
:53:01. > :53:10.tennis in a good place in this country. Yes. Do you believe in God?
:53:11. > :53:15.I believe in more, I believe, yeah, more than just us.
:53:16. > :53:18.OK. You were born in Australia. You have British citizenship. What's the
:53:19. > :53:26.most British thing about you? What's the most Australian thing about you?
:53:27. > :53:30.The most British thing about me? I don't know actually. I think you
:53:31. > :53:33.need to ask other people because I don't know about me and most
:53:34. > :53:37.Australian? I'm not really Australian with my habits. I left
:53:38. > :53:45.when I was quite young. Maybe there is still a little bit of a twang in
:53:46. > :53:49.my accent. My accent is a bit of a hybrid. Don't think I have an
:53:50. > :53:56.answer. Sorry. That's all right. Is it true you are so competitive you
:53:57. > :54:00.made your sister cry playing Monopoly? That's true. It's true!
:54:01. > :54:05.Thank you very much. Congratulations again. Thank you very much. Thank
:54:06. > :54:07.you. Number four in the world, Johanna Konta and thank you for your
:54:08. > :54:11.questions as well. Next this morning,
:54:12. > :54:13.the Advertising Standards Authority is to recommend that adverts
:54:14. > :54:15.featuring gender stereotypical roles That's because Fairy's cleaning
:54:16. > :54:35.power lasts a long, long time. Generations have trusted it
:54:36. > :54:38.and today, it lasts up to 50% longer Trust Fairy and you will hardly ever
:54:39. > :54:45.have to buy it either. At least someone knows
:54:46. > :55:01.how to treat you right. Craig Jones is from the Advertising
:55:02. > :55:04.Standards Authority who are calling for tougher regulations to address
:55:05. > :55:06.what they say are harmful Peter Lloyd, author
:55:07. > :55:20.of Stand By Your Manhood who writes What are you worried about in sn We
:55:21. > :55:23.have talked to parents and children and young people and what they have
:55:24. > :55:25.told us along with their representative groups as well is
:55:26. > :55:30.that there are some genderster you types in advertising which can be
:55:31. > :55:35.harmful. Like what? The example we have given include for example a
:55:36. > :55:39.family thrashing the house and then the mother having sole
:55:40. > :55:44.responsibility for for cleaning up. That maybe true in somt households?
:55:45. > :55:52.Well what, we found, what we are not saying is we want to ban all images
:55:53. > :55:57.of women cleaning or men doing DIY. It is just the harmful ones. What
:55:58. > :56:03.harm do you think is happening because of genderster you typical
:56:04. > :56:06.ads? The harm that we found is that those very normalised predetermined
:56:07. > :56:09.roles can have a drip, drip effect on young people and children as they
:56:10. > :56:14.are growing up and it really affects them. Harm them, how? It affects how
:56:15. > :56:20.they see themselves and how the world sees them. It limits their
:56:21. > :56:25.aspirations whether it is to do with their studies or careers. You have
:56:26. > :56:30.got evidence to show there is a link between gender typical ads and a
:56:31. > :56:38.teenager's aspirations being limited? We talked to young people
:56:39. > :56:43.and adults who have given us this evidence. Is it anecdotal. Is it
:56:44. > :56:49.people saying my aspirations might be limited by that ad or is it
:56:50. > :56:53.reality? Asking young people what impression they are left with, for a
:56:54. > :56:58.lot of people, the harmful ones, what they are telling us is that it
:56:59. > :57:01.can give them the sense of narrowed aspirations and narrowed
:57:02. > :57:08.opportunities as they get older. Peter, what do you think? I think it
:57:09. > :57:14.is very worrying. I don't think that censorship is the way forward in
:57:15. > :57:19.advertising. But to sensor is very concerning to me. The ASA should be
:57:20. > :57:23.concerned with ensuring that advertisers don't mislead their
:57:24. > :57:26.clients and customers. They shouldn't be making arbitrary
:57:27. > :57:34.judgments on whether they don't like a feminist or non feminist advert.
:57:35. > :57:40.That's ridiculous. This an organisation that's imposing a
:57:41. > :57:46.left-wing political free view on the market. The ASA have a dim view of
:57:47. > :57:53.consumers who can make up their own minds about products. . The ASA has
:57:54. > :58:02.been dealing with harmful advertising for over 50 years. We
:58:03. > :58:06.commissioned this evidence. I am sure you would agree in that case
:58:07. > :58:09.there is real harm there, but what we found in terms of roles and
:58:10. > :58:13.character sttion we need to do more when it comes to the harmful roles
:58:14. > :58:20.and chrkistics, not all of them though. Five seconds You're saying
:58:21. > :58:23.it is a harmful stereotypical thing, it is a reality that your
:58:24. > :58:25.organisation don't appreciate. Tomorrow we'll be live
:58:26. > :58:27.in North Kensington talking to survivors of Grenfell Tower
:58:28. > :58:29.and hearing their frustrations five weeks after the devastating fire
:58:30. > :58:32.which killed at least 80 people. BBC TWO reveals the bittersweet
:58:33. > :58:38.history of sugar. This is really a chance
:58:39. > :58:42.to create pure magic. Four confectioners explore
:58:43. > :58:47.400 years of the sweet stuff.