27/07/2017

:00:12. > :00:16.I'm Chloe Tilley, welcome to the programme.

:00:17. > :00:19.More than 12 months after the referendum, the government

:00:20. > :00:23.is commissioning a study of the costs and benefits of EU

:00:24. > :00:26.migrants on our economy and it's going to take more

:00:27. > :00:31.The charity Women's Aid is calling on the government to sign off

:00:32. > :00:33.changes to court guidelines which aim to protect children

:00:34. > :00:35.from violent fathers during custody battles -

:00:36. > :00:51.they say the delays are putting lives at risk.

:00:52. > :00:54.To actually be physically attacked, almost killed, and then be thrown

:00:55. > :00:58.believe you or somehow you're held responsible for the violence that

:00:59. > :01:14.We have always been told by doctors to finish a course of antibiotics

:01:15. > :01:18.- experts say it puts some people at unnecessary risk

:01:19. > :01:32.50 years ago today, homosexuality was partially decriminalised

:01:33. > :01:38.Prime Minister Theresa May says the Conservative Party have been

:01:39. > :01:42.wrong in the past but have come a long way we will take a look

:01:43. > :02:06.Coming up, we will look at the wildfires which have swept across

:02:07. > :02:11.France. And Charlie Gard's parents have until noon to decide whether he

:02:12. > :02:13.will go to a hospice. Do get in touch on all the stories

:02:14. > :02:18.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:02:19. > :02:21.and if you text, you will be charged The government has taken

:02:22. > :02:25.what is being described as a "major step" in developing

:02:26. > :02:28.a new immigration policy. Home Secretary Amber Rudd is asking

:02:29. > :02:30.independent migration experts to analyse the role of EU nationals

:02:31. > :02:33.living and working in the UK. They will report back next

:02:34. > :02:35.September - six months before the UK's deadline to leave

:02:36. > :02:37.the European Union. However, critics say the study has

:02:38. > :02:39.been commissioned too late. Our political guru Norman Smith

:02:40. > :02:48.is in Westminster. Norman, just explain first of all,

:02:49. > :02:52.what exactly is the government doing? Here we are a year on from

:02:53. > :02:57.the referendum and the government decided they need to get a grip on

:02:58. > :03:03.the contribution that EU nationals make to our economy, where they

:03:04. > :03:07.work, what sort of role they play, how certain industries may depend on

:03:08. > :03:13.them, whether other countries have a greater need for them, and our

:03:14. > :03:18.Labour shortages, to get a bigger picture on how much we need EU

:03:19. > :03:23.nationals, and to come up with a strategy for our new immigration

:03:24. > :03:27.system when we leave the EU. What is significant about this is the way

:03:28. > :03:33.the Home Secretary Amber Rudd has said to business, I know you are

:03:34. > :03:37.worried, I know you have concerns. I hear you, come and tell me what you

:03:38. > :03:46.are worried about. That has led to fears among some Leave campaigners

:03:47. > :03:51.that this report will be a way of the government climbing down on

:03:52. > :03:55.tough immigration curbs. They will say business is very worried about

:03:56. > :04:01.this, I'm not sure we can impose quite as tight curbs as people might

:04:02. > :04:04.like. This morning, the Immigration Minister Brandon Lewis sought to

:04:05. > :04:09.quash that idea, insisting that when we leave the EU in March 2019, that

:04:10. > :04:13.will be the end of freedom of movement, and the public will have a

:04:14. > :04:18.clear idea of the new immigration rules. Have a listen to what he

:04:19. > :04:32.said. We are very clear about this, as is the Home

:04:33. > :04:36.Secretary in her notes which she has outlined to the commission. Free

:04:37. > :04:38.movement ends when we leave the European Union. We have also been

:04:39. > :04:41.clear about having a smooth process which can make our economy prosper.

:04:42. > :04:43.The commission's work will help inform what industries and sectors

:04:44. > :04:45.need within the new structure of immigration as they go forward. What

:04:46. > :04:50.is interesting is both Mr Lewis and Amber Rudd are saying when we leave

:04:51. > :04:54.in March 2019, that does not mean the new system starts them, it will

:04:55. > :04:59.be phased in gradually. We do not know how long that process will be.

:05:00. > :05:09.It could stretch up to four years and experts say getting a new visa

:05:10. > :05:22.system in place could take years. So getting the new immigration system

:05:23. > :05:36.might not come into force. As I said earlier on since the Brexit vote,

:05:37. > :05:46.why has it taken so long? They will induce the bet -- Brexit Immigration

:05:47. > :05:51.Bill. It is all the bits higgledy-piggledy, you have to say,

:05:52. > :06:01.the new Immigration Bill will be introduced at the start of the year.

:06:02. > :06:10.It all seems a little bit out of sequence. Or to speak to. Let's head

:06:11. > :06:16.over to the BBC newsroom. Ben Brown is in the BBC

:06:17. > :06:18.Newsroom with a summary The parents of the terminally-ill

:06:19. > :06:22.baby, Charlie Gard, have until midday to agree

:06:23. > :06:24.with Great Ormond Street Hospital They've accepted that Charlie

:06:25. > :06:31.will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home,

:06:32. > :06:34.but Chris Gard and Connie Yates are asking to spend more time

:06:35. > :06:37.with their son before life support A 16-year-old girl found dead

:06:38. > :06:40.on a railway is thought Taiyah Pebbles was discovered

:06:41. > :06:44.at Herne Bay station in Kent British Transport Police said

:06:45. > :06:49.the teenager was pronounced dead at the scene after sustaining

:06:50. > :06:51.serious injuries believed to be A post mortem will

:06:52. > :06:59.take place on Friday. Wild fires are continuing to burn

:07:00. > :07:02.in parts of southern France. Thousands of people have been forced

:07:03. > :07:06.to leave their homes and campsites around

:07:07. > :07:09.the town of Bormes-Les-Mimosas. Many are spending a second night

:07:10. > :07:12.on beaches, or in sports halls At least 6,000 firefighters and

:07:13. > :07:15.troops are now battling the flames. For a third night, the skies glowed

:07:16. > :07:24.red in southern France as fierce wildfires continued to burn

:07:25. > :07:29.out of control. Hillsides engulfed by flames

:07:30. > :07:32.in Bormes-les-Mimosas, Local residents joining firefighters

:07:33. > :07:38.to battle the blaze that has forced the evacuation

:07:39. > :07:40.of over 10,000 people. Having watched the flames inch

:07:41. > :07:43.closer and closer on Wednesday, thousands of tourists took

:07:44. > :07:50.the chance to flee. Many had spent the last two nights

:07:51. > :07:53.in the public shelters TRANSLATION: We evacuate

:07:54. > :07:58.because of the fire is coming We left with our clothes

:07:59. > :08:03.and a little food. Residents who fled the flames

:08:04. > :08:06.have now begun to return to assess the damage

:08:07. > :08:08.to their homes and properties. TRANSLATION: All of a sudden

:08:09. > :08:17.we were in front of a wall of flame, We took some belongings,

:08:18. > :08:27.we took the two dogs and we left. TRANSLATION: I climbed high

:08:28. > :08:30.on the crest and I saw a picture of desolation,

:08:31. > :08:32.because all the camping was surrounded with flames

:08:33. > :08:41.and we couldn't do anything. Meeting some of the crews

:08:42. > :08:44.and volunteers on the frontline, the French Prime Minister,

:08:45. > :08:45.Edouard Philippe, said there would be an enquiry

:08:46. > :08:50.into the fire's cause, which some have blamed

:08:51. > :08:54.on an arsonists. The powerful and destructive

:08:55. > :08:56.combination of heat and wind set to fuel these fires and test these

:08:57. > :08:59.firefighters once again. The Chief Constable

:09:00. > :09:03.of Police Scotland, Phil Gormley, has confirmed he's being

:09:04. > :09:05.investigated over allegations Details of the complaint

:09:06. > :09:09.against Phil Gormley haven't been made public -

:09:10. > :09:11.but the BBC understands they relate to his conduct

:09:12. > :09:41.towards a more junior officer. Donald Trump's new communications

:09:42. > :09:55.director said that the UK and US can almost certainly agree trade deal.

:09:56. > :10:06.There is a group of rich guys and we will break away from the other

:10:07. > :10:16.countries. We are going to disrupt and hack the system. What does that

:10:17. > :10:20.mean? That he will meet us halfway. Hears about reciprocity, about fair

:10:21. > :10:23.and equal trade. The notion you should

:10:24. > :10:25.The notion that you should always finish a course of antibiotics,

:10:26. > :10:28.even if you feel better, is being challenged by a group

:10:29. > :10:31.Writing in the British Medical Journal, it's argued that taking

:10:32. > :10:33.antibiotics for longer than necessary, can raise

:10:34. > :10:35.the risk of developing a resistance to the drugs.

:10:36. > :10:37.However, England's Chief Medical Officer says people shouldn't

:10:38. > :10:46.change their behaviour because of one study.

:10:47. > :10:52.growing resistance to antibiotics is an increasing problem around the

:10:53. > :10:56.world. They become less effective because we take so many of them.

:10:57. > :11:01.That means deadly infections spread more easily. Now some researchers

:11:02. > :11:06.say it is time to end the blanket prescription that every course

:11:07. > :11:09.should be completed. Writing in the British medical journal, a group of

:11:10. > :11:13.experts claim there is no evidence that stopping some antibiotic

:11:14. > :11:18.treatment early increases the risk of infection. They accept more

:11:19. > :11:19.research is needed but suggest new advice, like stop taking them when

:11:20. > :11:23.you feel better, could help. # Antiobiotics are

:11:24. > :11:25.wonderful pills... There is already an NHS campaign

:11:26. > :11:28.to cut the use of antibiotics. The Chief Medical Officer says

:11:29. > :11:30.the evidence will be reviewed, but that for now the message remains

:11:31. > :11:33.- you should stick to prescriptions, and always follow

:11:34. > :11:47.the doctor's advice. The Prime Minister has said

:11:48. > :11:49.the Conservatives have "come a long way" on the issue of gay rights,

:11:50. > :11:53.but that there's still more to do Theresa May was marking the 50th

:11:54. > :11:56.anniversary today of the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality

:11:57. > :11:58.in England and Wales. It decriminalised homosexual

:11:59. > :12:00.acts in private between The Duke of Cambridge

:12:01. > :12:09.will begin his last shift as an air ambulance pilot today -

:12:10. > :12:12.before taking up his For the past two years he's been

:12:13. > :12:18.working for the Writing in the Eastern Daily Press

:12:19. > :12:22.this morning he says he's It is a job which has clearly meant

:12:23. > :12:34.a great deal to him, to work as a member

:12:35. > :12:36.of the emergency services. Valued for what he does

:12:37. > :12:38.rather than who he is, flying an air ambulance,

:12:39. > :12:40.and helping to save lives. It was more than two years ago that

:12:41. > :12:43.William first reported for duty He had finished as an RAF

:12:44. > :12:47.search-and-rescue pilot, but chose to retrain and qualify

:12:48. > :12:49.for this new role. On his first morning, he explained

:12:50. > :12:52.how much it mattered to him. I'm just fantastically excited to be

:12:53. > :12:55.here today, the first day. It has been many exams

:12:56. > :13:00.and training to get here, and I'm hugely excited to be joining

:13:01. > :13:04.a very professional bunch of guys and girls, doing such a unique,

:13:05. > :13:09.complex job with the air ambulance. In the months since,

:13:10. > :13:11.William has piloted the air He has seen tragedy and extremes

:13:12. > :13:15.of emotion in close quarters. Writing in the Eastern Daily Press

:13:16. > :13:18.this morning, he says he is hugely grateful for having

:13:19. > :13:38.had the experience. He says it has instilled in him

:13:39. > :13:41.a profound respect for the men After tonight's shift,

:13:42. > :13:45.William will embark on the role which has been his destiny,

:13:46. > :13:47.as a full-time, working member of the British royal family,

:13:48. > :13:49.taking on more responsibilities in support of his grandmother,

:13:50. > :13:52.but with what are clearly deeply embedded memories of his time

:13:53. > :13:54.as pilot William Wales of the That's a summary of the latest BBC

:13:55. > :14:10.News - more at 9.30. Thank you, Ben. Let's get all of the

:14:11. > :14:15.sport from Olly Foster. We have to talk about Adam Peaty and his

:14:16. > :14:20.incredible achievements in the pool. That is one superlative. They are

:14:21. > :14:30.really running out of things to say about Adam Peaty. He is 22. He has

:14:31. > :14:35.now retained his world titles. He broke his world record twice in the

:14:36. > :14:40.heats and the semifinals. Look at that winning margin. By over half a

:14:41. > :14:44.second he won and that is the biggest winning margin in the 50

:14:45. > :14:50.metres breaststroke. He is quite a specimen there. And one of his

:14:51. > :14:56.opponents who came third, the South African Cameron Bundaberg said he

:14:57. > :15:01.has reinvented the breaststroke. It is a hybrid between the butterfly

:15:02. > :15:05.and the breaststroke. It is such an enormous power. He has said he may

:15:06. > :15:14.have to retire and come back when Adam Peaty gets older. Here is Adam

:15:15. > :15:18.Peaty. Very exhausting, especially with a double, but I am so happy

:15:19. > :15:25.with my performances. I know there is more, but I don't want to spoil

:15:26. > :15:31.it for next year or the year after. He has this project 57, hoping to

:15:32. > :15:35.lower the 100 metres breast rope, breaking 57 seconds to the first

:15:36. > :15:39.time. Just speaking after the mixed medley, they didn't get a medal, the

:15:40. > :15:46.British team, but he goes in the men's medley on Sunday, every chance

:15:47. > :15:50.for a medal for Peaty then. And he is only 22, let's doc about the

:15:51. > :15:55.third test against South Africa, England need to turn things around.

:15:56. > :15:58.It will be the 100th Test match at the Oval, but they lost the second

:15:59. > :16:03.test at Trent Bridge. They were absolutely thumped by South Africa.

:16:04. > :16:06.Joe Root's captaincy started with a brilliant win at Lord's when they

:16:07. > :16:13.beat South Africa, so it is a bit of crunch time, this. Whoever loses

:16:14. > :16:17.won't be able to win the series. Weather could be a factor. The

:16:18. > :16:20.covers are on. Michael Vaughan, former skipper, who works for the

:16:21. > :16:25.BBC now, says that England just don't respect to Test cricket any

:16:26. > :16:30.more, the way they approach it. It is far too gung ho. They have to

:16:31. > :16:34.learn how to approach the game. Joe Root, that is Ben Stokes bowling,

:16:35. > :16:40.Joe Root says that criticism has felt a little bit too personal. It

:16:41. > :16:44.is very important that us as a side remained true to each other. We are

:16:45. > :16:47.very honest in the dressing room, we know we weren't good enough last

:16:48. > :16:53.week, but effort has never been the issue. We have got a massive desire

:16:54. > :17:00.to go out this week and put a release from performance in and

:17:01. > :17:04.bounce back strong. Middlesex bowler Toby Roland-Jones will make his test

:17:05. > :17:07.debut for England at the Oval. We should get the toss in the next hour

:17:08. > :17:13.and a half or something like that. It is the wheelchair rugby league

:17:14. > :17:17.World Cup in France, but Wales are threatening to pull out of their

:17:18. > :17:22.match today. They are playing Spain, fifth-place play-off, one of their

:17:23. > :17:26.lawyers, Harry Jones has epilepsy, and he has had a couple of seizures

:17:27. > :17:29.in matches, incredibly worrying, but it has been triggered by

:17:30. > :17:34.photographers getting far too close to the action and using flash

:17:35. > :17:37.photography. They have put signs up everywhere, saying that Harry

:17:38. > :17:42.suffers from epilepsy, and to try to move the photographers away from the

:17:43. > :17:47.court. They say if it happens again, clearly, he has had to miss a match

:17:48. > :17:51.because of one of these seizures, they will go off the court. England

:17:52. > :17:57.are in the final of that, playing the hosts France, or Italy,

:17:58. > :18:03.tomorrow. They beat Australia 78-36 in their semifinal to reach the

:18:04. > :18:07.final. England going well but some concerns over Wales, and obviously

:18:08. > :18:14.Harry Jones, the photographers getting a little bit too close.

:18:15. > :18:17.The last 12 years 20 children have been murdered because they have had

:18:18. > :18:20.contact with an abusive parent. This led to changes

:18:21. > :18:22.to the current court guidelines - they were announced back in January

:18:23. > :18:25.but still have not been signed Women's Aid say every day the plans

:18:26. > :18:29.are delayed women and children's They have new research to show that

:18:30. > :18:34.in nearly a quarter of cases where domestic violence is alleged

:18:35. > :18:35.unsupervised contact between In her first TV interview as Women's

:18:36. > :18:47.Aid's new Chief Executive, Katie Ghose joined me in the studio

:18:48. > :18:49.earlier this morning. We also spoke to Sarah

:18:50. > :18:51.Parsons from Cafcass - a group of social workers

:18:52. > :18:57.who are appointed by family courts. But we began by talking

:18:58. > :18:59.to Zoe Dronfield. Zoe was a victim of domestic

:19:00. > :19:02.violence, and had her daughter taken While in hospital, after the attack,

:19:03. > :19:13.I was actually served with papers I then had to discharge

:19:14. > :19:22.myself from hospital, so I was in hospital

:19:23. > :19:24.for about two weeks. And I discharged myself

:19:25. > :19:26.to attend a hearing And during that process,

:19:27. > :19:41.how was it for you? It was hideous, and I even say

:19:42. > :19:44.now that it was worse than the attack itself.

:19:45. > :19:47.To actually be physically attacked, almost killed, and then be thrown

:19:48. > :19:50.into a system that does not believe you or somehow you're held

:19:51. > :19:52.responsible for the violence that It doesn't bear

:19:53. > :20:13.thinking about, really. And your daughter was taken away

:20:14. > :20:15.from you, initially? Her father got custody,

:20:16. > :20:20.interim custody. We were both litigants in person,

:20:21. > :20:23.so the judge did not take too kindly to that,

:20:24. > :20:28.to be honest. Talk to us about the process,

:20:29. > :20:30.because we're going to speak here to Sarah and Katie

:20:31. > :20:33.about the process of court. What was that like for you,

:20:34. > :20:35.the actual custody case itself, the hearing, the effect it

:20:36. > :20:44.had on you? OK, well, I suppose,

:20:45. > :20:46.the first hearing, I arrived So we came face-to-face

:20:47. > :20:54.in the waiting room. And he was saying all sorts

:20:55. > :20:56.of things, so that was And the fact that I'd just left

:20:57. > :21:10.hospital was getting over a serious a sort,

:21:11. > :21:13.so I was having to deal Then the court itself

:21:14. > :21:16.was really clinical, there was zero emotion,

:21:17. > :21:18.no understanding of the traumatic experience that you're

:21:19. > :21:23.going through really. Because it's life-changing,

:21:24. > :21:25.decisions are going to be made in that courtroom that

:21:26. > :21:28.are going to affect the rest of your life and the rest

:21:29. > :21:39.of your children's lives. So, of course, it's the biggest

:21:40. > :21:42.thing ever, to be dealing with. And you are kind of ushered

:21:43. > :21:44.through and I wanted to express myself more but you are literally

:21:45. > :21:47.given a limited amount of time to get your point across,

:21:48. > :21:50.and as litigants in person, the judge didn't particularly

:21:51. > :21:52.want to hear us talk I think what was taken

:21:53. > :22:03.was the statement that was presented to the judge, which was full

:22:04. > :22:06.of what I would say is perjury, which isn't dealt

:22:07. > :22:12.with in a family court. And that information wasn't even

:22:13. > :22:15.checked to see if it was correct. I believe they just took that

:22:16. > :22:18.statement as a statement Zoe stay with us, because I want

:22:19. > :22:22.to bring in Sarah and Katie. Katie, first of all, can you explain

:22:23. > :22:25.what litigants in person are? That's when you are having

:22:26. > :22:28.to make your own case and you have not got a lawyer of that

:22:29. > :22:31.with you to do that advocacy, which you can imagine how extra

:22:32. > :22:33.traumatic that could be in the circumstances

:22:34. > :22:39.that Zoe has described. And we hear Zoe's story and we can

:22:40. > :22:43.tell just by hearing that story how traumatic it is even now,

:22:44. > :22:46.Zoe, for you to talk about that. We can see that from the way

:22:47. > :22:48.that you are sitting, Are these similar experiences

:22:49. > :22:58.that you were hearing? Sadly, we have heard

:22:59. > :23:01.from women in situations such as the one Zoe has described,

:23:02. > :23:03.and others as well, where they have suffered

:23:04. > :23:05.domestic abuse and violence, and then have to relive that trauma

:23:06. > :23:08.going through the courts. And sadly we also know that some

:23:09. > :23:10.perpetrators of violence will actively use the family courts

:23:11. > :23:13.to continue a campaign of coercive There are lots of issues

:23:14. > :23:17.here and we just need to be mindful and listen and learn

:23:18. > :23:19.from the experiences We are very pleased that there

:23:20. > :23:29.is refreshed guidance for judges, We want the government to get

:23:30. > :23:35.on and act on that and sign it off. And that's going to make some

:23:36. > :23:37.improvements to the family courts, so that they can really make sure

:23:38. > :23:40.that women and their experiences Sarah, go through what those changes

:23:41. > :23:54.will be once they are brought in? The new guidance will make sure,

:23:55. > :23:56.for instance, that women who have suffered domestic abuse are not

:23:57. > :24:01.cross examined by their perpetrator. People will find that

:24:02. > :24:02.amazing watching this, It doesn't happen in

:24:03. > :24:06.the criminal cases, does it? And the organisation that I am from,

:24:07. > :24:11.Cafcass, who look after the best interests of children in these

:24:12. > :24:14.proceedings, have been contributing to the updated guidance

:24:15. > :24:20.and are in favour of those changes. Zoe, do you feel, as we heard there

:24:21. > :24:24.from Katie, that there are times when your partner was able

:24:25. > :24:26.to manipulate the system I mean, it was manipulation right

:24:27. > :24:38.from the very beginning. He used the assault

:24:39. > :24:41.as an opportunity to then ask He then submitted all sorts

:24:42. > :24:45.of lies into the court. Honestly, it's like going

:24:46. > :24:51.into another dimension, that's Why has there been a delay, Katie,

:24:52. > :24:58.in these suggestions being implemented, these

:24:59. > :24:59.recommendations I don't know why the delay has been,

:25:00. > :25:20.but we're really pleased Not least because it makes it

:25:21. > :25:24.crystal clear to judges and everyone in the courts,

:25:25. > :25:26.that it is the child's safety And actually, it's that which trumps

:25:27. > :25:30.the interests or the wishes So the guidance is good,

:25:31. > :25:34.it's going to make difference, and now we just want the government

:25:35. > :25:38.to get on and sign and seal it and have it in practice

:25:39. > :25:40.because women and children are in the family courts every

:25:41. > :25:42.single day right now and it is really important that this

:25:43. > :25:52.is done quickly. I'm aware that it's really,

:25:53. > :25:55.very critical to make sure the accuracy of the new guidance

:25:56. > :25:57.is looked at in detail. I'm aware that there

:25:58. > :25:59.was no deliberate delay, it's not about back sliding,

:26:00. > :26:03.it's commitment across government to ensure that the legislation,

:26:04. > :26:06.the guidance, all of the structures, support, the victims of domestic

:26:07. > :26:08.abuse and most importantly, as Katie says, ensures that

:26:09. > :26:10.children are safe. So it's important to get

:26:11. > :26:12.it absolutely right. And I know that has been looked

:26:13. > :26:25.at in detail as we speak. Currently, do you think parents'

:26:26. > :26:27.right to contact is being put The law states that there should be

:26:28. > :26:32.continuity of parental involvement, so Cafcass always look at the impact

:26:33. > :26:34.for each individual child, and tries to took to the children,

:26:35. > :26:38.and both sides of the family, Because many children do

:26:39. > :26:42.benefit from ongoing And that's really important to look

:26:43. > :26:55.at from an individual However, where the risks are too

:26:56. > :27:02.high, we should be very clear about that as well,

:27:03. > :27:05.and that is the case. There are obviously situations

:27:06. > :27:08.like Zoe's, which are very distressing and we need to listen

:27:09. > :27:11.to and learn from and make improvements, the system

:27:12. > :27:12.is not 100% perfect. But certainly in my experience,

:27:13. > :27:20.we have made great strides. Every case that comes to the family

:27:21. > :27:27.courts is risk assessed. but we need to make sure that,

:27:28. > :27:29.with the improvement in the new practice direction,

:27:30. > :27:31.that there is greater consistency and every child's circumstances

:27:32. > :27:34.like Zoe's don't happen again. One of the worries that we have got,

:27:35. > :27:37.and this came out of the research that Women's Aid has published

:27:38. > :27:40.with Cafcass, is that nearly a quarter of the contact cases

:27:41. > :27:42.where there were allegations of domestic abuse, unsupervised

:27:43. > :27:44.contact with the parent was ordered That means that the court may not

:27:45. > :27:49.have had the chance to get to grips with the full picture,

:27:50. > :27:54.and I think that is something that has come out very

:27:55. > :27:56.powerfully from Zoe's story. So that is one of the

:27:57. > :27:59.concerns we have got. And we will be really

:28:00. > :28:01.looking to have a situation where women, and all of us,

:28:02. > :28:06.and survivors, can have the confidence that whatever

:28:07. > :28:09.family courts they go to, the cild safety is going to be

:28:10. > :28:12.properly and fully assessed. And that full picture

:28:13. > :28:14.will always be considered. Yeah, for me, there's

:28:15. > :28:18.no recourse for women I went through and afterwards tried

:28:19. > :28:24.to get into traditional review, because I just felt like I wasn't

:28:25. > :28:28.being dealt with fairly. Who are you complaining

:28:29. > :28:37.to if things don't go right? Ultimately, you did get custody

:28:38. > :28:42.of your daughter, didn't you? I truly believe that it's

:28:43. > :28:55.because I have the means to do so. When we initially went to court,

:28:56. > :29:04.we were litigants in person, and so the judge seemed quite

:29:05. > :29:09.annoyed with that. Once we had a legal team in there,

:29:10. > :29:13.then it strengthened my case. But actually, my case

:29:14. > :29:14.was strong anyway. So it shouldn't be down

:29:15. > :29:19.to money or financials. And was it a struggle

:29:20. > :29:21.to get that money? Yeah, it is, I had a good solicitor

:29:22. > :29:27.who took on my case and I'm pleased to say that he really supported me,

:29:28. > :29:30.because he could see how The government sent us

:29:31. > :29:40.the following from the Ministry of Justice, "The welfare of children

:29:41. > :29:42.is the utmost priority Ministers are working closely

:29:43. > :29:46.with the senior judiciary to carefully consider revisions

:29:47. > :29:48.to this important guidance, and we expect to introduce

:29:49. > :29:59.these changes shortly". Still to come: Thousands of people

:30:00. > :30:02.are spending a second night away from their homes as a result

:30:03. > :30:06.of wildfires in France. We'll speak to some Brits on holiday

:30:07. > :30:11.in the area who've been affected. And a survey has found that 48%

:30:12. > :30:16.of people don't think primary school-age children should learn

:30:17. > :30:18.about same-sex relationships. Here's Ben Brown in the BBC Newsroom

:30:19. > :30:37.with a summary of today's news. The government has taken

:30:38. > :30:39.what is being described as a "major step" in developing

:30:40. > :30:56.a new immigration policy. independent migration experts

:30:57. > :30:59.to analyse the role of EU nationals They will report back next

:31:00. > :31:03.September - six months before the UK's deadline to leave

:31:04. > :31:05.the European Union. However, critics say the study has

:31:06. > :31:12.been commissioned too late. The parents of the terminally-ill

:31:13. > :31:14.baby, Charlie Gard, have until midday to agree

:31:15. > :31:16.with Great Ormond Street Hospital They've accepted that Charlie

:31:17. > :31:19.will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home,

:31:20. > :31:22.but Chris Gard and Connie Yates are asking to spend more time

:31:23. > :31:25.with their son before life support A 16-year-old girl found dead

:31:26. > :31:29.on a railway is thought Taiyah Pebbles was discovered

:31:30. > :31:32.at Herne Bay station in Kent British Transport Police said

:31:33. > :31:35.the teenager was pronounced dead at the scene after sustaining

:31:36. > :31:38.serious injuries believed to be A post mortem will

:31:39. > :31:41.take place on Friday. Wild fires are continuing to burn

:31:42. > :31:43.in parts of southern France. Thousands of people have been forced

:31:44. > :31:46.to leave their homes and campsites around

:31:47. > :31:47.the town of Bormes-Les-Mimosas. Many are spending a second night

:31:48. > :31:50.on beaches, or in sports halls At least 6,000 firefighters and

:31:51. > :32:02.troops are now battling the flames. The Chief Constable

:32:03. > :32:03.of Police Scotland, Phil Gormley, has confirmed he's being

:32:04. > :32:05.investigated over allegations Details of the complaint

:32:06. > :32:08.against Phil Gormley haven't been made public -

:32:09. > :32:10.but the BBC understands they relate to his conduct

:32:11. > :32:21.towards a more junior officer. The Duke of Cambridge

:32:22. > :32:23.will begin his last shift as an air ambulance pilot today -

:32:24. > :32:26.before taking up his For the past two years he's been

:32:27. > :32:29.working for the Writing in the Eastern Daily Press

:32:30. > :32:46.this morning, he says he's That is a summary of our latest

:32:47. > :32:48.news. More from me at ten o'clock. Thank you, let's get a summary of

:32:49. > :32:51.the sport. British Swimmer Adam Peaty has

:32:52. > :32:53.retained his 50 metres He couldn't lower his own world

:32:54. > :32:57.record as he had done in the heats and semi-finals but he still managed

:32:58. > :33:00.to swim under 26 seconds and won by over half a second,

:33:01. > :33:03.a record margin of victory, He also successfully

:33:04. > :33:05.defended his 100 metre title The third Test between England

:33:06. > :33:08.and South Africa starts The four test series is level at 1-1

:33:09. > :33:12.after England's heavy says his side will travel to Norway

:33:13. > :33:19.for the second leg of their Champions League third qualifying

:33:20. > :33:21.tie confident they can They drew 0-0 with

:33:22. > :33:36.Rosenberg last night. We could have two home Nations

:33:37. > :33:40.quarterfinalists in the women's European Championships in the

:33:41. > :33:45.Netherlands. A win for England will see them top group D. Scotland need

:33:46. > :33:50.to beat Spain by at least two goal is to have any chance. I will be

:33:51. > :33:53.back after ten and hopefully we will be live at the Oval for that third

:33:54. > :33:56.test. Thank you.

:33:57. > :33:58.France has appealed for help fighting fires that have spread

:33:59. > :34:01.along parts of the country's south coast, forcing around 10,000 people

:34:02. > :34:04.One of the worst hit areas is around Saint Tropez,

:34:05. > :34:07.Thousands of firefighters and troops have been trying

:34:08. > :34:10.to stop the fire's spread, but a combination of dry vegetation

:34:11. > :34:13.and strong winds has made the fires particularly challenging to contain.

:34:14. > :34:23.Our correspondent Hugh Schofield is in Bormes-les-Mimosas.

:34:24. > :34:32.Yes, we are in the brush, as you can see, in the hillside above the town

:34:33. > :34:35.of Bormes-Les-Mimosas. The situation, we are told, is

:34:36. > :34:41.stabilised. Not under control, they are very keen to say that, but

:34:42. > :34:45.stabilised. The fire passed yesterday. As you walk up the

:34:46. > :34:49.hillside you can see the remains of the stumps and the buck and

:34:50. > :34:53.vegetation and the earth which has turned black. Apparently, that is

:34:54. > :35:01.the effect of the water. When they spray it with water it goes from

:35:02. > :35:06.grade to black. But as we come up the hill, it is very interesting.

:35:07. > :35:11.There are still members burning. All over the place, you see these little

:35:12. > :35:16.chimneys of smoke going up. This is the root of a tree which is still

:35:17. > :35:23.smouldering. And this, we are told, is the real danger spot. This

:35:24. > :35:28.remains hot. As the day progresses and the heat returns to the

:35:29. > :35:33.environment, and if the wind starts fanning it, this is where we could

:35:34. > :35:40.easily see new outbreaks, places like this, fire. That is why Fire

:35:41. > :35:45.Service, who are standing down now, they have put a small blaze out upon

:35:46. > :35:49.the hill, they remain on very high alert throughout the day. They

:35:50. > :35:56.predict there will be new outbreaks this afternoon. Last point on a more

:35:57. > :36:00.positive note, if you look upon the hillside, you will see that it is

:36:01. > :36:06.green. There was a fire here 27 years ago. That was black like this

:36:07. > :36:13.is here now, but it regenerates. The lesson is, fires occur and they are

:36:14. > :36:17.terrible, but the will cope. That is Hugh Schofield giving us a

:36:18. > :36:19.sense of what it is like on the ground.

:36:20. > :36:21.Let's talk to Ollie Marriage who is on holiday in Gigaro

:36:22. > :36:29.Lisa Minot was camping near Bormes-les-Mimosas

:36:30. > :36:33.And Dr Beth Cole from the University of Leicester has been researching

:36:34. > :36:41.the areas most at risk from these kinds of fires.

:36:42. > :36:48.Lisa, first of all, you were evacuated from your campsite to the

:36:49. > :36:54.beach. Did you have to sleep on the beach? That is right, we did. We had

:36:55. > :36:59.two nights now. The alert came the night before last. The entire

:37:00. > :37:03.campsite was evacuated, that is over 4000 people. We are back on the

:37:04. > :37:09.campsite now because this morning they left off back for the first

:37:10. > :37:16.time. INAUDIBLE

:37:17. > :37:20.It is still a state of flux. We do not know what will happen. As your

:37:21. > :37:25.correspondent said, we watched yesterday as the fires were put out

:37:26. > :37:30.and then reignited. We spent the night on the beach. We did not sleep

:37:31. > :37:36.on the campsite. We decided to move some tents onto the beach and sleep

:37:37. > :37:39.there. Lisa, you have a slightly scratchy Skype line but we will

:37:40. > :37:44.stick with it because I'm sure people will be wondering how you

:37:45. > :37:50.slept on the beach. Did you have lounges, covers and water? We had

:37:51. > :37:54.food and water. This is a serious environment. There are people

:37:55. > :38:00.helping out. There is water and food you can collect. And then we had

:38:01. > :38:06.tents from our own campsite. We moved them onto the beach, so that

:38:07. > :38:10.they were out of danger, out of the campsite environment, because the

:38:11. > :38:17.beach is one of the safest places to be if there is a fire. I want to

:38:18. > :38:25.bring in Ollie who is near central pay. Where are you and how have you

:38:26. > :38:31.been affected? -- saved to pay. The fires started 100 metres from here

:38:32. > :38:36.and they swept up the hillside to my right ear. The firefighters did an

:38:37. > :38:40.amazing job putting them out initially but we were evacuated

:38:41. > :38:45.again yesterday because the wind had changed direction and it was blowing

:38:46. > :38:51.the flames back this way. You say they were 100 metres away in a calm

:38:52. > :38:56.manner, presumably you are not calm when you saw it? The first we were

:38:57. > :39:00.aware of it was when the planes were flying over. Initially, the flames

:39:01. > :39:04.were not too big and they tried to put them out quickly, and then they

:39:05. > :39:10.built very quickly, driven by the really strong winds. They raced up

:39:11. > :39:16.the hillsides and the sheets of flame were enormous. I want to bring

:39:17. > :39:28.in Rob Huckle who has also connected with us on Skype. He is also on

:39:29. > :39:31.holiday with his family less than a mile away from the fires. Tell us

:39:32. > :39:34.your experiences and what you have seen? I was woken up by my sister at

:39:35. > :39:36.one o'clock in the morning, about two hours after the fire started. I

:39:37. > :39:44.looked out of our apartment windows and the hills were lit up with

:39:45. > :39:50.orange flames, resonating off the smoke which was flying up into the

:39:51. > :39:55.sky. We watched it flow across the hills at an alarming speed carried

:39:56. > :40:00.by the wind, and it just came closer and closer, to where we were. We

:40:01. > :40:05.thought it was dying down in the morning and as someone said, it

:40:06. > :40:13.picked back-up during the day. I saw it come within metres of some houses

:40:14. > :40:20.on the hills, but luckily, the fires, firefighters and planes did

:40:21. > :40:26.an excellent job to hold back. Where you evacuated from your apartment or

:40:27. > :40:35.could you stay? We could stay. I am on the port so I am on water. The

:40:36. > :40:39.best place to be! Yes, I was very lucky. I saw streams of cars

:40:40. > :40:43.overnight. There have been families still sitting out on the corner of

:40:44. > :40:51.the street with whatever they could grab from their homes. We have the

:40:52. > :40:57.sailing club here set up as a refugee centre and it is giving out

:40:58. > :41:05.free water and food to those who need it. I wonder if each of you,

:41:06. > :41:09.Lisa, have you had much information from the authorities? As they're

:41:10. > :41:15.been good communication? I would not say that has been good acting in a.

:41:16. > :41:18.It has become a case of looking on Facebook and Twitter and talking to

:41:19. > :41:24.people. Communication has not been great. In the case of the campsite,

:41:25. > :41:28.deciding on whether we were staying or going was decided by the campsite

:41:29. > :41:32.but also the mayor of the town and the firefighters, and those three

:41:33. > :41:36.people have to have a discussion. Things change, we would told one

:41:37. > :41:40.thing and then another. Yesterday morning, we were told having spent

:41:41. > :41:44.the night on the beach that we could come back to the campsite. We had

:41:45. > :41:48.been on the campsite for barely an hour when the alarm went again and

:41:49. > :41:53.we were forced to leave. At that point it was, get off the campsite

:41:54. > :41:58.now, immediately, get to the beach. At that point it was chaos. There

:41:59. > :42:04.was no control as such, but look at what they are fighting, look at what

:42:05. > :42:09.they have to do. You can see these fires reigniting and reigniting. It

:42:10. > :42:16.is no surprise that there is no control to it. I was reading there

:42:17. > :42:22.were 4500 people on your campsite so moving people around cannot be easy.

:42:23. > :42:30.Ollie, have you found good communication from the authorities?

:42:31. > :42:33.The fires are unpredictable. We know there is... That has not been a

:42:34. > :42:37.great deal of communication, but when you talk to the individual

:42:38. > :42:41.firemen and police, they can tell you roughly what is going on. They

:42:42. > :42:46.do not know what the fire is going to do, so that makes it difficult

:42:47. > :42:51.for them. There is no secular centre or information source that you can

:42:52. > :42:56.go to. For holiday-makers, at least. Maybe if you are local down here you

:42:57. > :43:01.know which radio station to listen to and which websites to check, but

:43:02. > :43:04.for us, not so much. I want to bring in Doctor Beth Cole from the

:43:05. > :43:10.University of Leicester. I know you were one of the academics who

:43:11. > :43:14.produced a risk map of wildfires in southern Europe. Can you explain to

:43:15. > :43:19.people watching what you collated and what you found? Yes, sure. We

:43:20. > :43:23.are doing a project across the whole of Europe, mapping the areas which

:43:24. > :43:32.are defined as the wild urban interface which is an area which is

:43:33. > :43:35.known to be at high risk of fire. These are areas where the urban

:43:36. > :43:41.development and human buildings interact or boundary up to areas

:43:42. > :43:47.where there is forest fuel, fuel for the fire, woody vegetation. By

:43:48. > :43:52.mapping that across Europe, we found we could relate this to satellite

:43:53. > :43:58.images of previously burned areas. We related the probability of how

:43:59. > :44:02.likely the fires were closest to these areas. The closer you get to

:44:03. > :44:07.the wild urban interfaces, the more likely you are to have a fire risk.

:44:08. > :44:14.Applying this across we found regions which were at higher risk to

:44:15. > :44:19.fire. One of those was the Provence Cote d'Azur area of France which

:44:20. > :44:23.came up as one of the highest risk areas of France. If you identified

:44:24. > :44:28.that is a risk, did the authorities take that on board and try and

:44:29. > :44:33.mitigate the circumstances or was that not possible? I am not sure how

:44:34. > :44:38.the information was fed forward, but the idea of identifying the risk

:44:39. > :44:43.areas was so that in the future people could put into place land

:44:44. > :44:50.management or fire risk plans, that would be preventative. Things like

:44:51. > :44:54.land use management to prevent the wild urban interface is being built

:44:55. > :45:02.up so much as they have been recently. Thank you all for speaking

:45:03. > :45:09.to us. I hope your holidays into. -- improve.

:45:10. > :45:23.A survey has found 48% of people do not think primary school children

:45:24. > :45:25.should learn about same-sex relationships. We will discuss that

:45:26. > :45:27.later. The police watchdog says

:45:28. > :45:29.there are major inconsistencies in the way drug driving laws

:45:30. > :45:53.are enforced by different police The police watchdog says there are

:45:54. > :46:02.big differences. How have the laws on drug driving

:46:03. > :46:06.changed? Police officers had to prove motorists' driving ability was

:46:07. > :46:11.impaired. They used to do a test, walk in a straight line, stand on

:46:12. > :46:16.one leg, that kind of thing. Since the change to years ago, it is much

:46:17. > :46:20.more scientific. If you have more than a certain type of 17 different

:46:21. > :46:28.drugs in your system, when you get behind the wheel, you are breaking

:46:29. > :46:30.the law. Eight of those are illegal. Ones like cocaine, cannabis and

:46:31. > :46:31.ecstasy. Nine of them are prescription drugs like codeine,

:46:32. > :46:46.morphine and methadone. What did you find out? We asked all

:46:47. > :46:50.43 police forces a very simple question, how many arrests have you

:46:51. > :46:54.made under the new drug driving laws in the two year since the change. 39

:46:55. > :46:58.of them came back to us, and essentially some forces had arrested

:46:59. > :47:04.thousands, others had made hundreds of arrests, a handful of forces had

:47:05. > :47:08.made fewer than 100 arrests. To try to get some sense of comparison, we

:47:09. > :47:13.divided the number of arrests by the number of officers each force has,

:47:14. > :47:16.just to get some kind of comparison. Some forces for example like North

:47:17. > :47:20.Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Cheshire, they made one drug driving

:47:21. > :47:25.arrest for everyone, two or three officers on the force. Other forces

:47:26. > :47:30.like Greater Manchester Police, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, they

:47:31. > :47:34.made one drug driving arrest for every 18, 19, 20, sometimes 28

:47:35. > :47:38.officers. We have to take these figures with caution because they

:47:39. > :47:45.are not an accurate, scientific, like-for-like comparison, but the

:47:46. > :47:47.complete Her Majesty 's -- to quit Her Majesty's Inspectorate of

:47:48. > :47:50.Constabulary, they give us a snapshot into the wider issue of

:47:51. > :47:56.policing drug driving. We spoke to a lady called Zoe Bird peeling from

:47:57. > :48:03.there about the possible consequences these infants -- Zoe

:48:04. > :48:06.Billingham. There are clearly forces being extremely proactive in this

:48:07. > :48:10.area, a deliberate decision on their part, and we as an inspectorate

:48:11. > :48:14.would ask other police Chief const is to check whether or not they are

:48:15. > :48:19.being as proactive as they should be, but also taking enforcement

:48:20. > :48:22.action in the way they ought to be, and educating young people about the

:48:23. > :48:28.harm, the terrible harm caused by these activities. So what are the

:48:29. > :48:33.police saying about this, why is there this huge discrepancy? We got

:48:34. > :48:38.in touch with the national police Chief 's counsel, and they say all

:48:39. > :48:41.forces take it very seriously, some individual forces made local

:48:42. > :48:44.decisions based at a local level based on their priorities, and

:48:45. > :48:48.sometimes crucially different forces share resources to meet the high

:48:49. > :48:53.demands on police. Thank you for talking to us. With us now is

:48:54. > :48:58.Kalann, whose brother Aiden was killed two years ago by a driver who

:48:59. > :49:08.was on drugs. Thank you so much for coming in -- with us now is Callum.

:49:09. > :49:13.Tell us a bit about your brother. Aiden, my brother, it was 20 at the

:49:14. > :49:19.time, he cared about everybody, you would not hurt a fly. He was living

:49:20. > :49:25.at home still, getting by, just doing what he enjoyed doing. And

:49:26. > :49:29.what happened on that day? Aiden was in the three lane traffic, going

:49:30. > :49:34.through traffic on the left-hand lane, and the car at the last minute

:49:35. > :49:40.decided to pull out. And did you know at the time that the driver was

:49:41. > :49:44.on drugs? Not instantly, we were told a few days after. Do you know

:49:45. > :49:49.what drugs the woman had in her system? The main one was

:49:50. > :49:52.amphetamine, originally a prescription drug but the woman

:49:53. > :49:55.became addicted to it. Clearly you are devastated at the loss of your

:49:56. > :50:00.brother. Was that made harder by the knowledge that this woman had been

:50:01. > :50:03.driving whilst having drugs in her system? It made it worse, he did

:50:04. > :50:09.nothing wrong. Something about that always just hurt, because he was

:50:10. > :50:13.doing everything in the right, he was just going on the road as you

:50:14. > :50:20.would do. It could happen to any of us, couldn't it? What sentence to

:50:21. > :50:26.the driver get? Suspended sentence, so she didn't go to a prison at all.

:50:27. > :50:32.Why did she get that? We don't quite understand, to be honest. That is

:50:33. > :50:37.something that got to all of us, I took if you days off work to get our

:50:38. > :50:42.heads around what had happened. We were all expecting a lenient

:50:43. > :50:47.sentence, no sentence is enough to punish what it caused us, but you

:50:48. > :50:52.expected at least some time in prison, and it didn't happen. And no

:50:53. > :50:58.one explain to you why that was? I don't really feel like I know why.

:50:59. > :51:01.If you kill someone whilst under the influence of drugs behind the wheel,

:51:02. > :51:06.then you should be going to jail, there should be no question about

:51:07. > :51:13.it. You said you expected a lenient sentence, why? You just hear other

:51:14. > :51:19.lot of cases like it. I had never heard of a drug driving case in the

:51:20. > :51:26.news before, so they prepared us for it because of the way sentences go.

:51:27. > :51:30.I know that the woman was given a suspended sentence, and in the

:51:31. > :51:34.intervening period, quite a long period, she had a baby, was that one

:51:35. > :51:39.of the reasons they gave? Yes, they said it would be unfair on the baby

:51:40. > :51:43.to do that. Details like that don't really bother me, if that was the

:51:44. > :51:46.case, I think that is disgusting that it shouldn't be thought of, but

:51:47. > :51:57.for all we know, it could have been that she happened to have a baby at

:51:58. > :51:59.that time as well. For me, it is not the sentencing I want to get

:52:00. > :52:01.changed, people's mindset about it changed, I want people to think

:52:02. > :52:04.before they get behind the wheel, there are harsher laws with the

:52:05. > :52:07.sentences, and people still go and commit the crime. Putting a harsher

:52:08. > :52:10.sentence on might stop people doing it but for me it is more important

:52:11. > :52:14.to have people think about it, if you see a friend or anyone under the

:52:15. > :52:19.influence, stop them and have the confidence to say something because

:52:20. > :52:24.it literally can save lives. You are a young person yourself, clearly,

:52:25. > :52:29.are you aware of friends, people you know, who do take drugs and drive? I

:52:30. > :52:34.am not aware of anyone I know who does do it, if I did, I would say

:52:35. > :52:37.something. I guess it is that hard moment, when I was growing up many

:52:38. > :52:43.moons ago, there were people I knew that were taking drugs and would

:52:44. > :52:47.drive, and I never got in a car. But then it never even occurred to me to

:52:48. > :52:50.pick up the phone to call the police to alert in case something might

:52:51. > :52:57.happen. I guess it is about getting that message across to people that

:52:58. > :53:00.we have a responsibility. If you know someone does, then if it had

:53:01. > :53:13.been done on that day to the woman who killed my brother, then he still

:53:14. > :53:22.might be here. Do you think enough is being done to create that stigma

:53:23. > :53:27.around drug driving? To me, because it is not as widely done,

:53:28. > :53:32.drink-driving, a lot of people when you get to that age, but not as many

:53:33. > :53:37.people take drugs, so it is hidden behind it, not as common. Needs to

:53:38. > :53:42.be just as common, the awareness of it needs to be put out there. Some

:53:43. > :53:45.people watching this might be surprised, when we were talking to

:53:46. > :53:48.Dan before, he said you would expect the illegal drugs to be there, but

:53:49. > :53:53.there were nine prescription drugs as well, things like codeine. Some

:53:54. > :53:59.people may be unaware that can affect them driving. Yes, any drugs

:54:00. > :54:02.you can pick up, it should be made clear when you pick up a

:54:03. > :54:04.prescription or you are given drugs, the effects of what you can and

:54:05. > :54:08.can't do. When I have been on different medication, you end up

:54:09. > :54:14.asking if you can or not, everything should be given out, either a yes or

:54:15. > :54:21.no. The doctor should always say yes, you can still drive on it, just

:54:22. > :54:26.to clear up and reduce the risk. Tell us about how Aidan's loss has

:54:27. > :54:32.affected you as a brother but also your family. It was just

:54:33. > :54:38.devastating. You could see it in everyone. I was just going into my

:54:39. > :54:42.second year of A-levels at the time. Ended up not doing as I wanted to

:54:43. > :54:46.do. I just couldn't concentrate on the college. I would go in but I

:54:47. > :54:58.just could not keep focused on what I wanted to do. For the family, you

:54:59. > :55:02.can see it even now, my mum, the most amazing woman is, every day I

:55:03. > :55:09.will speak to her and you can see it still hurts her she still struggles

:55:10. > :55:14.with the fact he is not there, not up in his room on his computer,

:55:15. > :55:19.which is what he normally did. I remember for months and months, I

:55:20. > :55:24.would shout up to him that dinner was ready, because he would never

:55:25. > :55:27.hear, you would have to yell at the top of your voice. Every time when

:55:28. > :55:31.it comes to that time, I think I need to, and it is that moment, you

:55:32. > :55:34.just relive the moment over and over again. Thank you for talking us, I

:55:35. > :55:39.can imagine it has been ready difficult, and lovely to hear about

:55:40. > :55:44.your brother anyway. I appreciated. Thank you. The National police

:55:45. > :55:52.chief's council has responded to the story. They say drug driving is no

:55:53. > :55:56.one size fits all approach. Individual forces make decisions

:55:57. > :56:01.about local priorities and how best to balance their demand and resource

:56:02. > :56:06.in order to keep the public safe as that may bring you this, reaching us

:56:07. > :56:10.from Danny Shaw, our home affairs correspondent. The number of

:56:11. > :56:17.assaults in prisons in England and Wales has risen to a record high.

:56:18. > :56:25.There were 26,643 assaults in the 12 months to March 20 17. There were

:56:26. > :56:31.also a record number of self harm incidents, 40,000 414. There were 97

:56:32. > :56:36.self-inflicted deaths in the year to June, down by ten on the before.

:56:37. > :56:40.Also, some of your comments have been coming in, we are going to be

:56:41. > :56:45.talking a little while about whether primary school children should be

:56:46. > :56:52.taught about same-sex relationships. Tim on Twitter says primary school

:56:53. > :56:56.kids should be educated about same-sex religion ships and the

:56:57. > :57:00.dangers of inequality start early. They should let kids be kids, says

:57:01. > :57:04.this one, why do they have to be taught about everything from such an

:57:05. > :57:08.early age? Get in touch. Now the latest weather with Carol.

:57:09. > :57:13.A real mixture of weather over the next few days, bright spells,

:57:14. > :57:16.sunshine and showers and has a mother 's reign, but in the sunshine

:57:17. > :57:20.it will feel pleasant. If you are in the rain it will feel cool. Weather

:57:21. > :57:28.Watchers pictures are rather nice, you can see some rain. Some showers

:57:29. > :57:37.around as well in the West. We did have some blue skies. A fair bit

:57:38. > :57:40.cloud around. Coming from the West, it will be travelling steadily

:57:41. > :57:45.eastwards. Some have been heavy and thundery. And there are more to

:57:46. > :57:55.come. Low pressure driving our weather currently. It is going to be

:57:56. > :57:59.a windy day, especially later across north-west Scotland, but breezy

:58:00. > :58:02.across the west of the week UK, especially in the showers, and when

:58:03. > :58:07.you have that, nation you will find the temperature will come down.

:58:08. > :58:10.After a fairly cloudy start the cloud breaks, and then a plethora of

:58:11. > :58:13.showers coming in from the West, drifting east, some of them heavy,

:58:14. > :58:18.if you of them will be thundery as well. Even into the afternoon, we

:58:19. > :58:22.are looking at that, nation of bright spells, sunshine and showers.

:58:23. > :58:26.We weren't all catch one, it is not like a band of rain coming your way,

:58:27. > :58:31.however there will be sunny spells between and the showers will be

:58:32. > :58:36.knocking around. In Wales, as well. Temperatures in Aberystwyth getting

:58:37. > :58:40.up to 16 or 17 Celsius. For Northern Ireland, sunshine and showers,

:58:41. > :58:44.breeze picking up late in the day across the north-west, and for

:58:45. > :58:48.Scotland, that combination of bright spells, sunshine and showers.

:58:49. > :58:52.Temperatures in Inverness getting up to the mid to high teens. The

:58:53. > :58:56.northern England, again, we have got that same, nation of bright spells,

:58:57. > :59:01.at times there will be a bit more cloud around, sunny skies but also

:59:02. > :59:04.those showers and breezy. Through the evening, the rain picks up, some

:59:05. > :59:09.of the showers will merge and give along the spells of rain anyway and

:59:10. > :59:12.then we could have some gales off the west of Scotland. The band of

:59:13. > :59:15.rain starts to move eastwards and through the rest of the night and

:59:16. > :59:18.into tomorrow it will start to ferment. There will stop with some

:59:19. > :59:22.showers in the West but the many parts of England and Wales, it will

:59:23. > :59:25.remain dry with overnight lows between 12 and about 15. We start on

:59:26. > :59:35.that note tomorrow. Meanwhile, another band of rain

:59:36. > :59:39.swings in from the south-west, also pushing north-eastwards. Some of

:59:40. > :59:45.that will be heavy, particularly so on the hills in Wales. In the

:59:46. > :59:50.central slot, you're likely to have a drier day with some sunshine.

:59:51. > :59:56.Still an element of as to how far north rain will travel but we think

:59:57. > :59:59.by evening it could be in a line roughly pressed in to Hull. You

:00:00. > :00:05.might want to get your tent set up quite early in the day. On Saturday,

:00:06. > :00:09.cloudy and damp in the south-east, then another band of rain swings up

:00:10. > :00:12.across the Channel Islands, Southern counties, in the central and

:00:13. > :00:16.southern England. We will still have those showers across Scotland and

:00:17. > :00:18.Northern Ireland, at times some of them urging to give some longer

:00:19. > :00:22.spells of rain. Still a breezy day but not as breezy as it will be

:00:23. > :00:26.tomorrow, and again in between there will be some sunshine and just a few

:00:27. > :00:30.showers. Either time we get to Sunday, low pressure still driving

:00:31. > :00:33.our weather, there is the centre of it, still a lot showers close to it

:00:34. > :00:37.in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but for England and Wales it will be

:00:38. > :00:41.more showers than on Saturday, some will be heavy and thundery, in

:00:42. > :00:51.between bright sunny skies, with highs up to 22 Celsius.

:00:52. > :00:58.Hello, it's ten o'clock. I'm Chloe Tilley, welcome to the programme.

:00:59. > :01:00.The Government is commissioning a "detailed assessment" of the costs

:01:01. > :01:03.and benefits of EU migrants, as it decides how to manage

:01:04. > :01:11.The Immigration Minister, Brandon Lewis, said the report

:01:12. > :01:12.would help the Government protect the economy.

:01:13. > :01:15.The commission's work will help inform what industry and sectors

:01:16. > :01:18.need within the new structure of immigration as we go forward.

:01:19. > :01:19.50 years ago today, homosexuality was partially decriminalised

:01:20. > :01:31.A recent survey shows 48% of us believe same-sex relationships

:01:32. > :01:33.should not be taught in primary schools. We will discuss the issue.

:01:34. > :01:36.And veganism is one of the fastest growing food

:01:37. > :01:51.We'll be hearing from a professional free-runner.

:01:52. > :01:54.Here's Ben Brown in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:55. > :01:56.The Government has taken what is being described

:01:57. > :01:58.as a "major step" in developing a new immigration policy.

:01:59. > :02:00.Home Secretary Amber Rudd is asking independent migration experts

:02:01. > :02:16.to analyse the role of EU nationals living and working in the UK.

:02:17. > :02:18.They will report back next September, six months before

:02:19. > :02:20.the UK's deadline to leave the European Union.

:02:21. > :02:24.However, critics say the study has been commissioned too late.

:02:25. > :02:26.The parents of the terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard

:02:27. > :02:29.have until midday to agree with Great Ormond Street Hospital

:02:30. > :02:32.They've accepted that Charlie will spend his last days

:02:33. > :02:36.in a hospice rather than at home, but Chris Gard and Connie Yates

:02:37. > :02:39.are asking to spend more time with their son before life support

:02:40. > :02:47.The number of assaults in prisons in England and Wales has risen

:02:48. > :02:52.There were 26,643 assaults in the 12 months to March 2017.

:02:53. > :02:54.There were also a record number of self-harm incidents -

:02:55. > :03:00.There were 97 self-inflicted deaths in the year to June -

:03:01. > :03:07.A 16-year-old girl found dead on a railway is thought

:03:08. > :03:11.Taiyah Pebbles was discovered at Herne Bay station in Kent

:03:12. > :03:16.British Transport Police said the teenager was pronounced dead

:03:17. > :03:18.at the scene after sustaining serious injuries believed to be

:03:19. > :03:26.Wild fires are continuing to burn in parts of southern France.

:03:27. > :03:29.Thousands of people have been forced to leave their homes

:03:30. > :03:32.and campsites around the town of Bormes-Les-Mimosas.

:03:33. > :03:35.Many are spending a second night on beaches, or in sports halls

:03:36. > :03:42.At least 6,000 firefighters and troops are now battling the flames.

:03:43. > :03:48.For a third night, the skies glowed red in southern France as fierce

:03:49. > :03:53.wildfires continued to burn out of control.

:03:54. > :03:56.Hillsides engulfed by flames in Bormes-les-Mimosas,

:03:57. > :04:01.Local residents joining firefighters to battle the blaze that has

:04:02. > :04:05.forced the evacuation of over 10,000 people.

:04:06. > :04:08.Having watched the flames inch closer and closer on Wednesday,

:04:09. > :04:11.thousands of tourists took the chance to flee.

:04:12. > :04:14.Many had spent the last two nights in the public shelters

:04:15. > :04:20.TRANSLATION: We evacuate because of the fire is coming

:04:21. > :04:27.We left with our clothes and a little food.

:04:28. > :04:30.Residents who fled the flames have now begun to return

:04:31. > :04:34.to assess the damage to their homes and properties.

:04:35. > :04:45.TRANSLATION: All of a sudden we were in front of a wall of flame,

:04:46. > :04:53.We took some belongings, we took the two dogs and we left.

:04:54. > :04:56.TRANSLATION: I climbed high on the crest and I saw

:04:57. > :04:57.a picture of desolation, because all the camping

:04:58. > :05:01.was surrounded with flames and we couldn't do anything.

:05:02. > :05:03.Meeting some of the crews and volunteers on the frontline,

:05:04. > :05:05.the French Prime Minister, Edouard Philippe, said

:05:06. > :05:08.there would be an enquiry into the fire's cause,

:05:09. > :05:14.which some have blamed on an arsonists.

:05:15. > :05:17.The powerful and destructive combination of heat and wind set

:05:18. > :05:19.to fuel these fires and test these firefighters once again.

:05:20. > :05:25.The Chief Constable of Police Scotland, Phil Gormley,

:05:26. > :05:28.has confirmed he's being investigated over allegations

:05:29. > :05:36.Details of the complaint against Phil Gormley

:05:37. > :05:38.haven't been made public - but the BBC understands

:05:39. > :05:46.they relate to his conduct towards a more junior officer.

:05:47. > :05:49.The notion that you should always finish a course of antibiotics,

:05:50. > :05:52.even if you feel better, is being challenged by a group

:05:53. > :05:55.Writing in the British Medical Journal, it's argued that taking

:05:56. > :05:57.antibiotics for longer than necessary, can raise

:05:58. > :05:59.the risk of developing a resistance to the drugs.

:06:00. > :06:01.However, England's Chief Medical Officer says people shouldn't

:06:02. > :06:04.change their behaviour because of one study.

:06:05. > :06:07.The Prime Minister has said the Conservatives have "come a long

:06:08. > :06:10.way" on the issue of gay rights, but that there's still more to do

:06:11. > :06:14.Theresa May was marking the 50th anniversary today of the partial

:06:15. > :06:19.decriminalisation of homosexuality in England and Wales.

:06:20. > :06:21.It decriminalised homosexual acts in private between men

:06:22. > :06:31.The Duke of Cambridge will begin his last shift

:06:32. > :06:33.as an air ambulance pilot today - before taking up his

:06:34. > :06:37.For the past two years he's been working for the

:06:38. > :06:41.Writing in the Eastern Daily Press this morning he says he's

:06:42. > :06:58.That is the summary of our latest news. More from me later.

:06:59. > :07:05.Thank you, let's catch up on the sports news.

:07:06. > :07:11.Yes, Adam Peaty has retained his titles. He has added the 50 metre

:07:12. > :07:16.breaststroke title to the 100 metres. He could not lower his own

:07:17. > :07:22.record again. He did that in the heats and semifinals. But his margin

:07:23. > :07:24.of victory is a record winning margin in the 50 metres

:07:25. > :07:50.breaststroke. He says he has a lot more to give to the sport as well.

:07:51. > :08:09.England's cricketers are the Oval. The captain Joe Root has come under

:08:10. > :08:13.some criticism. Joe Root said the criticism has felt personal at

:08:14. > :08:17.times. Michael Vaughan said he is standing by his criticism. That is

:08:18. > :08:24.Ben Stokes bowling yesterday. Toby Rowland Jones will make his debut as

:08:25. > :08:28.well. The series is 1-1. It is important that as as a side remain

:08:29. > :08:33.true to each other. We are very honest in the dressing room. We know

:08:34. > :08:38.we did not do well enough last leg. Effort has never been an issue. We

:08:39. > :08:43.have a massive desire to go out and put a really strong performance in

:08:44. > :08:49.and bounce back strong. And some breaking news. The head of Spanish

:08:50. > :08:52.football has resigned as vice president of both Uefa and Fifa. The

:08:53. > :08:59.Spaniard was detained earlier this month after allegations of

:09:00. > :09:03.corruption, embezzlement and falsifying documents. He has denied

:09:04. > :09:09.the allegations. He will no longer have an official role at the

:09:10. > :09:18.football organisations. Two home nations could reach the

:09:19. > :09:26.knockout stages of the Euro Championships. Mark Sampson's side

:09:27. > :09:33.England need just a point to qualify top of group D. They will become the

:09:34. > :09:38.first England side to progress with a 100% record without conceding a

:09:39. > :09:44.goal. We want to improve, we want to do better. So far, we have had a

:09:45. > :09:48.good performance against Scotland. In other areas better performance

:09:49. > :09:51.against Spain. We need to keep the snowball rolling because we want to

:09:52. > :10:00.go in the knockout stages and in didn't and that we are the team to

:10:01. > :10:09.make it. And in the last couple of minutes, Chris Froome has confirmed

:10:10. > :10:16.he will ride this year in the Velta Spaniard. No rider has won the Tour

:10:17. > :10:22.de France and the Velta in the same year will stop it has not been done

:10:23. > :10:30.since 1995. He has been a runner-up a few times in the Velta Espana. He

:10:31. > :10:33.says it is brutal but he has done the Tour de France. I will be back

:10:34. > :10:38.with the headlines at half-past. Thank you.

:10:39. > :10:46.Just before the news we were talking about the number of assaults in

:10:47. > :10:52.prisons in England and Wales. Danny Shaw is here now. Take us through

:10:53. > :10:56.these. These are the latest figures from the prison service covering

:10:57. > :11:00.jails in England and Wales. They cover assault figures until the end

:11:01. > :11:07.of March. There is a record number of assaults in prisons in England

:11:08. > :11:12.and Wales, 26,000 600. 3600 of which were serious assaults and 7000 were

:11:13. > :11:17.assaults on staff. That number has gone up by a third in the last year.

:11:18. > :11:23.Really concerning figures about violence in prisons. Some of it is

:11:24. > :11:26.fuelled by former legal highs, psychoactive substances, but these

:11:27. > :11:31.will strengthen demands on the government to take action to try and

:11:32. > :11:42.make prisons face. We were hearing last week from the Chief Inspector

:11:43. > :11:46.Peter Clark, about prisons. Record numbers of self harm incidents. The

:11:47. > :11:50.number of self-inflicted deaths is still very high at 97, but down

:11:51. > :11:58.slightly, down ten on the previous year. Still approaching record

:11:59. > :12:02.levels. We have some other figures. A raft of statistics released today

:12:03. > :12:08.by the Ministry of Justice, and this shows that conditions in prisons are

:12:09. > :12:11.in decline. These are a series of rankings given by the Ministry of

:12:12. > :12:17.Justice every year to every single person, and what it shows is that

:12:18. > :12:24.ten are -- their performance is giving serious concern. That is up

:12:25. > :12:28.from six last year. Those prisons include Bedford and Birmingham,

:12:29. > :12:34.where there were some serious disturbances over the past 12

:12:35. > :12:41.months. Bristol, Brixton, Hindley, Liverpool prison, Pentonville, there

:12:42. > :12:43.were two escapes and an alleged murder at Pentonville, Wandsworth

:12:44. > :12:48.and Wormwood Scrubs in London as well. And finally, this will concern

:12:49. > :12:52.is of the public, this is about the state and people who are released in

:12:53. > :12:59.error from prisons. There were 15 states in the last 12 months. That

:13:00. > :13:02.is up two on the year before. The number of prisoners who are released

:13:03. > :13:08.in error, this is where they are meant to be in custody, but there is

:13:09. > :13:12.some administrative mistake, and they are actually let out. There

:13:13. > :13:18.were 71, and that is the highest number for at least a decade. Thank

:13:19. > :13:20.you for coming down and updating us. That is our home affairs

:13:21. > :13:21.correspondent Danny Shaw. It's 50 years today since

:13:22. > :13:23.homosexuality was partially But how much have attitudes

:13:24. > :13:26.to homosexuality changed? To find out, gay online

:13:27. > :13:28.news site Pink News It suggests four in ten people think

:13:29. > :13:32.gay sex is not natural, and half believe primary school

:13:33. > :13:35.children should not be taught Now we can speak to Benjamin Cohen,

:13:36. > :13:43.CEO of Pink News, Tony Fenwick from Schools Out, which provides

:13:44. > :13:48.resources to primary schools to teach about same-sex

:13:49. > :13:50.relationships, and Katie Ivens from the Campaign

:13:51. > :14:04.for Real Education. Thank you all for coming to speak to

:14:05. > :14:08.us today. Benjamin, why did you commission this survey and were you

:14:09. > :14:13.surprised by what you found out? We wanted to find that how people

:14:14. > :14:19.really feel about attitudes to homosexuality. It is the anniversary

:14:20. > :14:23.of the decriminalisation. We wanted to know if people felt gay sex was

:14:24. > :14:27.natural or unnatural and I was surprised that so many people felt

:14:28. > :14:34.it was unnatural. What is good is that the younger people are the more

:14:35. > :14:40.positive in the way they feel about gay relationships. But more than

:14:41. > :14:45.50%, actually 70% of people who were alive when homosexuality was a

:14:46. > :14:50.crime, still think it is an unnatural act. About the education

:14:51. > :14:54.in schools, Katie, can you understand why people think it is

:14:55. > :14:59.important to think young children, and at primary school we are talking

:15:00. > :15:06.about age four to nearly 11, about same-sex relationships. I think

:15:07. > :15:13.primary education should be teaching the basics, literacy, numeracy,

:15:14. > :15:17.learning about facts through subject education and becoming readers and

:15:18. > :15:22.independent thinkers for themselves. I think the whole area of sexuality

:15:23. > :15:25.should not be the main focus of primary education. Every child

:15:26. > :15:31.should be treated and respected as an individual, but let the children

:15:32. > :15:33.develop as they develop. I do think anyone thinks it should be the

:15:34. > :15:45.primary focus. My niece Isabel is starting primary

:15:46. > :15:49.school. One of her favourite books is called King and King, it tells

:15:50. > :15:53.the story about two princes who fall in love and become things together.

:15:54. > :15:57.There is no reason if you want to promote literacy that you couldn't

:15:58. > :16:01.have books that are gay inclusive, and all we were asking about was

:16:02. > :16:05.about relationship education. Lots of children like my niece had gay

:16:06. > :16:08.members in their family and this is important that all young people

:16:09. > :16:12.understand families come in all different shapes and sizes, and all

:16:13. > :16:17.schools teach about mum and dad, why not teach about mummy and mummy and

:16:18. > :16:21.daddy and daddy? Education should be liberal, but I am talking about the

:16:22. > :16:26.focus, which I should jest should not be on the issue of sexual

:16:27. > :16:31.identity at primaries call age. I don't think they would be doing that

:16:32. > :16:38.at four or five. I don't know quite honestly what will be introduced to

:16:39. > :16:42.children. My daughter has finished reception, she told me one day she

:16:43. > :16:46.would marry one boy and one girl in her class, so I think it is quite a

:16:47. > :16:50.simplistic approach. Sometimes the children almost don't think about

:16:51. > :16:55.it, do they? Do they think about a mummy and daddy always has to be

:16:56. > :16:58.together? Not many years ago children at primary school age would

:16:59. > :17:01.have no access to same-sex relationships and that kind of thing

:17:02. > :17:05.but it is a very different world we live in now. Many children have

:17:06. > :17:12.same-sex parents, they will have a gay auntie or uncle or a lesbian

:17:13. > :17:18.member of the family. So it is much closer to home. Also in soap operas

:17:19. > :17:21.as if they watch television, they will see same-sex couples, it is

:17:22. > :17:26.part of the everyday tapestry. We are no longer invisible. That has to

:17:27. > :17:30.be reflected in primary school education. How do you teach it,

:17:31. > :17:35.there are concerns from Katie, and I am sure many parents will say I tell

:17:36. > :17:40.my chart going to school and it being advocated, what is the

:17:41. > :17:42.sensitive line you tread? I don't think in primary anyone would be

:17:43. > :17:47.promoting the idea that we should beat teaching young people how to

:17:48. > :17:54.have sex, gay or straight. It is about relationships and families.

:17:55. > :17:59.Families come in different shapes and sizes. Exactly, we start by

:18:00. > :18:03.challenging the stereotypes, blue for boys, think the girls, that kind

:18:04. > :18:07.of thing, and then talk about how different relationships form

:18:08. > :18:11.different families and how that is acceptable and part of our rich

:18:12. > :18:14.diversity in our society, and also our British values, which we talk

:18:15. > :18:22.about a lot now. It is one of our British values. Katie, you said you

:18:23. > :18:27.did not want it to be a primary focus, so how much of a young child

:18:28. > :18:34.was night-time, education, is spent having this discussion, are we

:18:35. > :18:40.talking an hour a week, a term? I think it is about relevance. Parents

:18:41. > :18:44.watching this will say I want my child to do this much maths and

:18:45. > :18:53.English, are we talking about this every day, every of week, every

:18:54. > :18:56.month? The government is going to expand its birth in the secondary

:18:57. > :18:59.and the primary, because it has not been taught very well in the past

:19:00. > :19:03.and it will now be a curriculum subject that will be assessed. Sex

:19:04. > :19:09.and relationship education will come into that as part of a holistic

:19:10. > :19:13.curriculum area. Why not with the choice of books have gay characters

:19:14. > :19:17.in them? You can still teach literacy. My little niece is

:19:18. > :19:23.learning to read, and one of the books she uses doesn't just have a

:19:24. > :19:30.prince that marries a princess. Which many parents hate anyway! PHS

:19:31. > :19:34.E has never been good and I don't see why it should become any better

:19:35. > :19:44.now just by talking about it more. I don't think it is going to happen. I

:19:45. > :19:48.think it should be done factually, and it should focus on reproduction,

:19:49. > :19:56.frankly, because we are the human species. We are mammals. Do you want

:19:57. > :19:59.to teach five-year-olds about that? I have taught my own four or

:20:00. > :20:02.five-year-old because they asked the questions and I gave the answers. My

:20:03. > :20:09.nine-year-old did not want to know when his class was taught. His

:20:10. > :20:16.friends are sorted a girl behind the bike sheds. I suggest we remain very

:20:17. > :20:20.careful about it and focus on teaching fundamentals, to read and

:20:21. > :20:24.to think themselves. If they are taught that as welcome is there a

:20:25. > :20:27.place in school to teach just about relationships? Not even about

:20:28. > :20:31.same-sex relationships, about friendships, sorting out problems,

:20:32. > :20:40.and yes it is about mum and dad or mum and mum and dad and dad. Or just

:20:41. > :20:46.mum and just dad. Indeed. The way you address relationships in primary

:20:47. > :20:49.school, you don't address those as a subject. Relationships are not a

:20:50. > :20:55.subject, teach the subjects, get them thinking for themselves, get

:20:56. > :20:57.them to be critical and develop as individuals, developing their

:20:58. > :21:01.intelligence, that is what schools should be about. I think that is

:21:02. > :21:08.what everyone is proposing, aren't they? A lot of people at Promis call

:21:09. > :21:12.age know a lot about sexuality and homosexuality and a lot of things

:21:13. > :21:18.that aren't true, probably a lot of bad things, from their peers, a lot

:21:19. > :21:20.of people out side. It is up to us as educators to talk to them

:21:21. > :21:26.properly and clear up the mess and tell them the truth. It is not just

:21:27. > :21:28.about sex, but also about safeguarding and protecting these

:21:29. > :21:32.children so they know when they are in a vulnerable position and they

:21:33. > :21:37.know what to do about it. We are wrapped out of time, thank you for

:21:38. > :21:40.coming in and talking about this. Still to come, the parents of the

:21:41. > :21:42.terminally ill baby Charlie Gard, have until midday to agree how his

:21:43. > :21:44.life will end. We'll bring you the

:21:45. > :22:09.latest on the case. 12 years, women's and children's

:22:10. > :22:12.lives are being put at risk. They have new research to show that in

:22:13. > :22:14.nearly a quarter of cases where domestic violence is alleged,

:22:15. > :22:20.unsupervised contact during a father and child is granted. Earlier I

:22:21. > :22:26.spoke to women's aid 's new chief executive, Katie Ghosh, and we also

:22:27. > :22:30.spoke to Sarah Parsons from a group of social workers who were appointed

:22:31. > :22:35.by family courts. But I began by talking to Zoe Dronfield. Zoe was a

:22:36. > :22:39.survivor of domestic violence and had her daughter taken away from her

:22:40. > :23:05.by the family courts. She told me the whole experience was hideous.

:23:06. > :23:07.So we came face-to-face in the waiting room.

:23:08. > :23:10.And he was saying all sorts of things, so that was

:23:11. > :23:13.And the fact that I'd just left hospital was getting

:23:14. > :23:16.over a serious a sort, so I was having to deal

:23:17. > :23:18.Then the court itself was really clinical,

:23:19. > :23:21.there was zero emotion, no understanding of the traumatic

:23:22. > :23:22.experience that you're going through really.

:23:23. > :23:24.Because it's life-changing, decisions are going to be made

:23:25. > :23:27.in that courtroom that are going to affect the rest

:23:28. > :23:42.of your life and the rest of your children's lives.

:23:43. > :23:46.And we hear Zoe's story and we can tell just by hearing that story how

:23:47. > :23:48.traumatic it is even now, Zoe, for you to talk about that.

:23:49. > :23:51.We can see that from the way that you are sitting,

:23:52. > :23:54.Are these similar experiences that you were hearing?

:23:55. > :23:56.Sadly, we have heard from women in situations such

:23:57. > :23:59.as the one Zoe has described, and others as well,

:24:00. > :24:01.where they have suffered domestic abuse and violence,

:24:02. > :24:07.and then have to relive that trauma going through the courts.

:24:08. > :24:10.And sadly we also know that some perpetrators of violence

:24:11. > :24:12.will actively use the family courts to continue a campaign of coercive

:24:13. > :24:17.There are lots of issues here and we just need to be mindful

:24:18. > :24:18.and listen and learn from the experiences

:24:19. > :24:26.We are very pleased that there is refreshed guidance for judges,

:24:27. > :24:31.We want the government to get on and act on that and sign it off.

:24:32. > :24:34.And that's going to make some improvements to the family courts,

:24:35. > :24:37.so that they can really make sure that women and their experiences

:24:38. > :24:42.Sarah, go through what those changes will be once they are brought in?

:24:43. > :24:45.The new guidance will make sure, for instance, that women who have

:24:46. > :24:50.suffered domestic abuse are not cross examined by their perpetrator.

:24:51. > :24:53.People will find that amazing watching this,

:24:54. > :24:57.It doesn't happen in the criminal cases, does it?

:24:58. > :25:09.And the organisation that I am from, Cafcass, who look after the best

:25:10. > :25:11.interests of children in these proceedings, have been contributing

:25:12. > :25:14.to the updated guidance and are in favour of those changes.

:25:15. > :25:17.Zoe, do you feel, as we heard there from Katie, that there are times

:25:18. > :25:19.when your partner was able to manipulate the system

:25:20. > :25:31.I mean, it was manipulation right from the very beginning.

:25:32. > :25:34.He used the assault as an opportunity to then ask

:25:35. > :25:42.He then submitted all sorts of lies into the court.

:25:43. > :25:55.Honestly, it's like going into another dimension, that's

:25:56. > :26:01.Why has there been a delay, Katie, in these suggestions

:26:02. > :26:02.being implemented, these recommendations

:26:03. > :26:06.I don't know why the delay has been, but we're really pleased

:26:07. > :26:09.Not least because it makes it crystal clear to judges

:26:10. > :26:12.and everyone in the courts, that it is the child's safety

:26:13. > :26:16.And actually, it's that which trumps the interests or the wishes

:26:17. > :26:24.So the guidance is good, it's going to make difference,

:26:25. > :26:27.and now we just want the government to get on and sign and seal it

:26:28. > :26:30.and have it in practice because women and children

:26:31. > :26:32.are in the family courts every single day right now

:26:33. > :26:34.and it is really important that this is done quickly.

:26:35. > :26:47.I'm aware that it's really, very critical to make sure

:26:48. > :26:53.The government sent us the following. These are very sensitive

:26:54. > :27:01.cases and it is only right that the rules are very carefully considered.

:27:02. > :27:03.The long-held message that patients should complete every course

:27:04. > :27:05.of antibiotics - even if they feel better -

:27:06. > :27:07.should end, according to a group of medical experts.

:27:08. > :27:10.They argue in the British Medical Journal that that taking antibiotics

:27:11. > :27:13.for longer than necessary can raise the risk of developing a resistance

:27:14. > :27:16.The government's chief medical officer has said the message

:27:17. > :27:18.to the public remains that they should always

:27:19. > :27:20.follow the advice of healthcare professionals.

:27:21. > :27:23.Philip Howard, from the British Society

:27:24. > :27:24.of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy, is an expert on antibiotics.

:27:25. > :27:27.And Martin Marshall from the Royal College of GPs

:27:28. > :27:38.So Martin, just explain first of all why with these people have come

:27:39. > :27:41.together and look at this as an issue? Is it because of the concerns

:27:42. > :27:48.about as taking too many antibiotics? The whole issue of

:27:49. > :27:52.antibiotics resistance is a massive challenge for the NHS. Our Chief

:27:53. > :28:00.Medical Officer has described it as big a challenge as terrorism, in

:28:01. > :28:05.terms of potential costs. So we have a big challenge with antibiotic

:28:06. > :28:08.resistance. A number of areas of guidance that doctors and patients

:28:09. > :28:14.have been given, take your medication and take it as

:28:15. > :28:17.prescribed. These experts are challenging that guidance, and they

:28:18. > :28:28.are questioning whether it is based on good scientific evidence or not.

:28:29. > :28:31.It is not so much that I made an active decision not to take them, I

:28:32. > :28:35.kind of forgot, and I guess many people do that. Do you think that

:28:36. > :28:40.makes sense, or is it dangerous? A lot of people do forget and a lot of

:28:41. > :28:45.people don't take a full medication. I don't agree with this paper as it

:28:46. > :28:49.stands at the moment. It is not an original research paper, it is a

:28:50. > :28:52.thought piece, a criticism, if you like, it is important that in

:28:53. > :28:57.medical journals we have these criticisms. It isn't saying there is

:28:58. > :29:00.new evidence that says we should change our policy. At the moment the

:29:01. > :29:05.policy remains the same, guidance the same, because we don't have

:29:06. > :29:08.enough evidence to change it. Phil Howard, do you think it is right

:29:09. > :29:14.people should not take a full course of antibiotics if they are feeling

:29:15. > :29:20.better? I think we should follow the advice given by the health care

:29:21. > :29:23.practitioner. I think the paper really raises the debate about

:29:24. > :29:27.completing the course, and I think the decision on the length of the

:29:28. > :29:30.course needs to be made by the health care practitioner that the

:29:31. > :29:34.patient is seeing. I den think there is enough evidence to change policy

:29:35. > :29:44.at the moment. I think we need clear information for patients. I think if

:29:45. > :29:47.we change this message now, people will stockpile medicines at home and

:29:48. > :29:52.take any leftovers, rather than go to see their GP for expert advice,

:29:53. > :29:59.which could actually increase antibiotic resistance. So is the

:30:00. > :30:02.answer shorter courses? I think we have to explore on a case-by-case

:30:03. > :30:07.basis for individual infections, and actually look at if standard length

:30:08. > :30:13.is appropriate for all patients. Do we need to give different lengths to

:30:14. > :30:19.the vulnerable groups, such as the very young, old or those who have

:30:20. > :30:27.immunosuppression. There needs to be further evidence before we make a

:30:28. > :30:31.policy change. Yes, we already have a fair amount of flexibility within

:30:32. > :30:37.prescribing guidance, so for urinary tract infections, if someone is

:30:38. > :30:42.otherwise healthy and well, it is only three days, but the infections

:30:43. > :30:45.in children, tonsillitis and adults, where we prescribe longer, a week or

:30:46. > :30:53.so. There is already a fair amount of flexibility. The idea of

:30:54. > :30:56.adjusting not just by patients, it is a really interesting idea but we

:30:57. > :30:59.don't have any evidence to guide us. So at the moment the evidence

:31:00. > :31:02.suggests we should do we are currently doing, and it will be very

:31:03. > :31:08.dangerous to change that without new evidence that tells us.

:31:09. > :31:17.Have you seen a change in the number of people who have said I would like

:31:18. > :31:21.some antibiotics? Yes, I have. A significant change. Often GPs talk

:31:22. > :31:24.about patients who come in with viral sore throats who want

:31:25. > :31:30.antibiotics. We rarely see that these days. Now we see patients who

:31:31. > :31:33.are reluctant to take antibiotics and they want to use their own

:31:34. > :31:39.immune system to fight the infection. That is a great victory

:31:40. > :31:48.for general practice and public health campaigns. We have turned

:31:49. > :31:50.around, if you like, public attitudes towards and biotics which

:31:51. > :31:55.is good. Phil, do you think attitudes are significantly changing

:31:56. > :32:02.towards antibiotics? You used the example earlier on of terrorism. Do

:32:03. > :32:07.you think the message is getting through to people of making sure we

:32:08. > :32:14.do not get antibiotic resistance? No, I think there is a lot more we

:32:15. > :32:19.should be doing. You have to tailor the message to the way that will

:32:20. > :32:24.affect them rather than something which will affect them 20 or 30

:32:25. > :32:30.years in the future. We also have to talk about the potential harms of

:32:31. > :32:35.antibiotics. They can cause diarrhoea and make you feel unwell.

:32:36. > :32:40.You should not take other people's and a biotics but you should go and

:32:41. > :32:45.see an expert who might give you some advice about your infection. Do

:32:46. > :32:51.people really do that, take other people's antibiotics? Yes, it often

:32:52. > :32:57.does happen. They will often take a short course and keep the remaining

:32:58. > :33:01.tablets in their cupboard and take some later on or they will take

:33:02. > :33:07.their brother or sister's or their parents, so it does happen. But the

:33:08. > :33:16.advice now is take the course until the end. Yes, do what your GP

:33:17. > :33:22.prescribes. Still to come: Britain's Adam Peaty defending his restrict

:33:23. > :33:25.title with another stunning display to complete a world Aquatics

:33:26. > :33:31.Championship double double. We will speak to the man who trained with

:33:32. > :33:32.him for five years. He is also his housemate.

:33:33. > :33:37.With one in five of us considering the diet we'll be

:33:38. > :33:40.talking to some people who follow it to find out what it's like.

:33:41. > :33:43.Here's Ben Brown in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:33:44. > :33:47.The Government has taken what is being described

:33:48. > :33:49.as a "major step" in developing a new immigration policy.

:33:50. > :33:51.Home Secretary Amber Rudd is asking independent migration experts

:33:52. > :33:55.to analyse the role of EU nationals living and working in the UK.

:33:56. > :33:57.They will report back next September, six months before

:33:58. > :33:59.the UK's deadline to leave the European Union.

:34:00. > :34:09.However, critics say the study has been commissioned too late.

:34:10. > :34:16.This is part of the process. This work has been going on for a year.

:34:17. > :34:20.The migration advisory committee's work starts now. But liaising with

:34:21. > :34:24.the industry and talking to different sectors has been going on

:34:25. > :34:27.for a considerable period of time. This is part of the process of

:34:28. > :34:32.informing the work the government will do on deciding what the

:34:33. > :34:34.government policy will be when we leave the European Union and free

:34:35. > :34:40.movement ends. The parents of the terminally-ill

:34:41. > :34:42.baby Charlie Gard have until midday to agree

:34:43. > :34:44.with Great Ormond Street Hospital They've accepted that Charlie

:34:45. > :34:48.will spend his last days in a hospice rather than at home,

:34:49. > :34:51.but Chris Gard and Connie Yates are asking to spend more time

:34:52. > :34:54.with their son before life support The number of assaults in prisons

:34:55. > :34:58.in England and Wales has risen There were 26,643 assaults in the 12

:34:59. > :35:01.months to March 2017. There were also a record number

:35:02. > :35:04.of self-harm incidents - There were 97 self-inflicted deaths

:35:05. > :35:09.in the year to June - Wild fires are continuing to burn

:35:10. > :35:15.in parts of southern France. Thousands of people have been forced

:35:16. > :35:17.to leave their homes and campsites around

:35:18. > :35:22.the town of Bormes-Les-Mimosas. Many are spending a second night

:35:23. > :35:25.on beaches, or in sports halls At least 6,000 firefighters and

:35:26. > :35:35.troops are now battling the flames. The Chief Constable

:35:36. > :35:37.of Police Scotland, Phil Gormley, has confirmed he's being

:35:38. > :35:38.investigated over allegations Details of the complaint

:35:39. > :35:41.against Phil Gormley haven't been made public -

:35:42. > :35:44.but the BBC understands they relate to his conduct

:35:45. > :35:51.towards a more junior officer. The Prime Minister has said

:35:52. > :35:54.the Conservatives have "come a long way" on the issue of gay rights,

:35:55. > :35:57.but that there's still more to do Theresa May was marking the 50th

:35:58. > :36:01.anniversary today of the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality

:36:02. > :36:03.in England and Wales. It decriminalised homosexual

:36:04. > :36:07.acts in private between men The Duke of Cambridge

:36:08. > :36:14.will begin his last shift as an air ambulance pilot today -

:36:15. > :36:17.before taking up his For the past two years he's been

:36:18. > :36:23.working for the Writing in the Eastern Daily Press

:36:24. > :36:28.this morning he says he's That's a summary of the latest

:36:29. > :36:44.news, join me for BBC Newsroom Live Thank you. A few minutes ago we were

:36:45. > :36:48.talking about whether primary school children should be talking about

:36:49. > :36:52.same-sex relationships. A lot of you have got in touch. Caroline on

:36:53. > :36:56.Facebook says a loving relationship between two people of the same sex,

:36:57. > :37:02.counts more than an abusive relationship between a man and a

:37:03. > :37:05.woman. Elizabeth on Facebook says children will learn about same-sex

:37:06. > :37:10.relationships in the playground anyway. It is better to give them

:37:11. > :37:13.the facts in school. And Bev says let children be children and do what

:37:14. > :37:19.children do. There is plenty of time for all of that at secondary school.

:37:20. > :37:23.Too much is put onto young people. Do keep your views coming. Let's

:37:24. > :37:26.catch up with the sport now with Ollie.

:37:27. > :37:28.Three players will make their Test debut for England when play gets

:37:29. > :37:31.underway in the Third Test against South Africa at the Oval

:37:32. > :37:40.in the Second Test at Trent Bridge prompting some criticism.

:37:41. > :37:43.It's a four game series, currently it's one all.

:37:44. > :37:48.England have just won the toss. They will bat first.

:37:49. > :37:51.Chris Froome has confirmed that he will race in next month's

:37:52. > :37:54.The four-time Tour de France champion is aiming to become

:37:55. > :37:57.the first man to do the double in the same year since 1995.

:37:58. > :38:00.Over 90,000 fans in Los Angeles saw Manchester City beat Real Madrid 4-1

:38:01. > :38:05.17-year-old Brahim Diaz was one of the scorers Man United

:38:06. > :38:13.ended their tour of the US with a 1-0 defeat to Barcelona.

:38:14. > :38:22.And the head of the Spanish Football Association has resigned from both

:38:23. > :38:26.Uefa and Fifa. He faces corruption charges but denies the allegations

:38:27. > :38:28.against him. That is all for now. I will be back on BBC News after 11

:38:29. > :38:31.o'clock. Thank you.

:38:32. > :38:33.The parents of the terminally ill baby, Charlie Gard,

:38:34. > :38:36.have until midday to agree how his life will end.

:38:37. > :38:38.They've accepted Charlie will be moved to a hospice

:38:39. > :38:40.rather than go home, but Chris Gard and Connie Yates

:38:41. > :38:43.are asking to spend more time with their son before his life

:38:44. > :38:46.We can now speak to our correspondent Richard Lister

:38:47. > :38:57.What will happen at midday? Well, we are unlikely to be told the details

:38:58. > :39:00.about when Charlie Gard is moved to a hospice. That is a private

:39:01. > :39:04.arrangement that the court has made with the family, and we are unlikely

:39:05. > :39:10.to be told anything about that. And in fact, we are not allowed to

:39:11. > :39:15.report which hospice he will be moved to, and when and if he is

:39:16. > :39:19.moved. All we know is that by midday, the deadline for the parents

:39:20. > :39:23.of Charlie Gard, to have an agreement with Great Ormond Street

:39:24. > :39:27.hospital, and the Guardian for Charlie, that deadline will expire.

:39:28. > :39:30.What the parents have to be able to do is satisfied Great Ormond Street

:39:31. > :39:34.Hospital, that they have a medical team in place at the hospice where

:39:35. > :39:38.Charlie will be moved to, that can oversee his care for a number of

:39:39. > :39:43.days, that they say they want, to be able to spend the last days with

:39:44. > :39:52.Charlie. It has been such a long legal battle on this. Have we heard

:39:53. > :39:55.it on this latest element from Charlie's parents? We have not heard

:39:56. > :39:59.beyond the appeals on Facebook that they have made for a properly

:40:00. > :40:03.qualified doctor to be able to take care of and oversee this team that

:40:04. > :40:08.the parents want to put in place for Charlie at the hospice. We have

:40:09. > :40:12.heard them very anguished at court on the way the decisions have been

:40:13. > :40:18.made thus far. But the High Court has been very clear on this. It was

:40:19. > :40:22.back in April but Mr Justice Francis said Charlie should be able to die

:40:23. > :40:26.with dignity, because there is concern he is suffering with pain.

:40:27. > :40:30.Because he is unable to move, to see, hear, or make a sound, it is

:40:31. > :40:34.very difficult to know what condition he is in. His parents

:40:35. > :40:39.insist he is not in pain and they said is right for them to be able to

:40:40. > :40:52.spend a few more days at a hospice. But Great Ormond Street hospital say

:40:53. > :40:55.that can only happen if the care is in place, and so far it seems that

:40:56. > :40:57.the parents are unable to provide the care team to satisfy the

:40:58. > :41:00.hospital's requirements. Thank you. You can stay up to date on the BBC

:41:01. > :41:03.News app and online. Could you live

:41:04. > :41:06.without meat of dairy? With one in five of us

:41:07. > :41:08.considering turning vegan we'll be talking to some of the people

:41:09. > :41:11.who have taken it up Britain's Adam Peaty

:41:12. > :41:14.defended his 50m breaststroke title with another stunning display

:41:15. > :41:17.to complete a World Aquatics Peaty, 22, who also retained his

:41:18. > :41:29.100m title on Monday now has five world titles to go along

:41:30. > :41:33.with his Olympic gold medal It's been quite the record-breaking

:41:34. > :41:36.career for Adam so far. In total, Adam has broken

:41:37. > :41:38.the 50m breaststroke And during these championships,

:41:39. > :41:44.he became the first swimmer to go under 26 seconds in the 50m race,

:41:45. > :41:50.completing the distance in 25.95. In the 100 metres, he holds the top

:41:51. > :41:53.ten times in the world! And he's hoping to become the first

:41:54. > :41:56.swimmer to complete the 100m breaststroke in under 57 seconds,

:41:57. > :42:02.which he calls Project 56. In a moment, we'll speak to somebody

:42:03. > :42:06.who knows him best, but first, let's take a look at the race last

:42:07. > :42:14.night. COMMENTATOR: A good,

:42:15. > :42:16.solid reaction to the gun, and a very good start

:42:17. > :42:19.for Adam Peaty. If you get a great start

:42:20. > :42:31.in the semifinal, that is what got This is quite amazing,

:42:32. > :42:35.absolutely brilliant Peaty is making the rest

:42:36. > :42:39.of the world reset their dreams because their dreams are no

:42:40. > :42:40.longer quick enough. And the time, 25.99, just outside

:42:41. > :42:43.of his own world record. And the rest of the world starting

:42:44. > :42:46.to come with him, you know. But no one within half a second

:42:47. > :42:50.of Great Britain's Adam Peaty. He won gold on the 50, and now

:42:51. > :42:54.he has done the double-double. We can speak to a friend

:42:55. > :43:08.of Adam Peaty - Ryan Lovatt - who trained with him for about five

:43:09. > :43:19.years, has known him ten years, Ryan, did you know he had those

:43:20. > :43:26.performances in him? Yes, it has been a long time coming, that he has

:43:27. > :43:29.been improving on the 50. Since Rio he has always been talking about

:43:30. > :43:34.that he could lower it again. I think it has come sooner than

:43:35. > :43:40.expected, with three years to go before Tokyo, but he has done

:43:41. > :43:45.amazing out there this time. And he is only 22. Yes, it is scary to

:43:46. > :43:51.think what he has achieved in his lifetime so far and what could still

:43:52. > :43:56.to come. Who knows what he will do. Tell us a bit about what he is like

:43:57. > :44:02.as a housemate, messy, annoying, fun? He is actually really, really

:44:03. > :44:06.clean. He loves tidying. That is one of his favourite hobbies. He loves

:44:07. > :44:12.the Hoover and the dust which works wonders for me that he is not in the

:44:13. > :44:15.house that often, he is training a lot, but the dedication and

:44:16. > :44:20.commitment he puts into training, allows him to spend time at home

:44:21. > :44:25.revitalising. Tell us about the training regime. He gets up at what

:44:26. > :44:27.time? He will get up around six o'clock, head to the pool for a

:44:28. > :44:51.couple of hours. He will do a couple of hours in the water and an hour in

:44:52. > :44:54.the gym after. He will come home a lunch at about 12 o'clock. He will

:44:55. > :44:57.have a little sleep before going back to the pool for two or three

:44:58. > :45:00.hours in the pool, or stretching. Then he will come home around 8pm.

:45:01. > :45:10.Does he eat you out of house and home?

:45:11. > :45:15.He wants to fuel his body with the best things he can to get the

:45:16. > :45:27.performances he is doing out in Bulic Forsythe now. -- in Budapest.

:45:28. > :45:31.Did you always know that he was talented, but that much more

:45:32. > :45:40.talented than everybody else? Definitely. He came about 14 or 15.

:45:41. > :45:48.At the time he was on Mars ahead of everybody else. He was just a normal

:45:49. > :45:51.swimmer in the pool. That normal dedication and he has come through

:45:52. > :45:59.the ranks and through the ranks and he has got the time. To go under 26

:46:00. > :46:14.was not something we thought he could do so soon. It shows great

:46:15. > :46:22.science 30 and the competitions within that time frame, sorry, for

:46:23. > :46:34.Tokyo. Olly Foster was saying, almost created his own stroke. Just

:46:35. > :46:43.so fluid,. He won the 50 by 2%. A huge margin to be winning by that

:46:44. > :46:51.distance. Project 56, to try to do 100 metres in under 57 seconds. 100

:46:52. > :46:57.breast row, Adam was the only person to go sub 58. To be talking about

:46:58. > :47:01.sub 57 is something the whole world will be worried about. After the

:47:02. > :47:06.performances he has done in the last 48 hours, and he goes again in the

:47:07. > :47:11.relay on Sunday, it is something he will be looking to try and clinch in

:47:12. > :47:16.that. Does he have to set himself goals like that to stay motivated? I

:47:17. > :47:23.think that is what gives him the drive, that energy to want to get

:47:24. > :47:28.back in that pool. He knows he is a good swimmer, going out there, it is

:47:29. > :47:36.how can he make himself feel he has achieved that extra little thing. He

:47:37. > :47:39.went 57.12 in the relay yesterday, faster than his current world

:47:40. > :47:43.record, and you do get an advantage being in a relay of an anticipated

:47:44. > :47:48.start, but it just shows that the 56, he is capable of doing that.

:47:49. > :47:54.Thank you ever so much for speaking to us, Ryan, a flatmate of Adam

:47:55. > :47:56.Peaty. It is one of the fastest-growing food movement and

:47:57. > :47:58.now a new study shows that one in five of us would consider a vegan

:47:59. > :48:01.diet. There are now half a million

:48:02. > :48:04.vegans in the UK - the diet has risen by 250%

:48:05. > :48:06.in the last decade. As well as being cited

:48:07. > :48:08.for its health benefits, veganism is said to have positives

:48:09. > :48:10.on the planet. Let's talk to Sean Fox

:48:11. > :48:14.and Jessica Spencer-Keyse, who became vegans two weeks ago

:48:15. > :48:16.together, and Emily Hyland, Also Ayela Spiro,

:48:17. > :48:20.the Nutrition Science Manager at the British Nutrition Foundation,

:48:21. > :48:22.who thinks a diet that includes plant-based food

:48:23. > :48:24.is beneficial to our diet. Sophie Medlin, a lecturer

:48:25. > :48:26.in Nutrition and Dietetics at King's College London

:48:27. > :48:29.and a freelance dietitian who says she would never recommend

:48:30. > :48:30.someone becoming a vegan. And professional free-runner

:48:31. > :48:33.Tim Shieff, who won the 2009 Barclaycard World Freerun

:48:34. > :48:33.Championship. He says he feels great from changing

:48:34. > :48:54.his diet to vegan in 2012. Hello, good to see you all. Tim,

:48:55. > :48:57.let's start with you, being a professional athlete and a vegan,

:48:58. > :49:02.some people might think that doesn't go together naturally. Yes, I think

:49:03. > :49:05.the experience has changed all of that for me and for anyone who has

:49:06. > :49:08.looked into it, there are plenty of athletes all over the planet going

:49:09. > :49:12.vegan for their health, to improve their skills and they are seeing

:49:13. > :49:16.themselves go up in the ranking. For me, I have felt so much better

:49:17. > :49:20.within days. I felt a difference in me as an athlete. There was a test

:49:21. > :49:23.and a challenge, because I thought maybe I will get worse, I didn't

:49:24. > :49:27.really know. The protein myth and all this sort of stuff, but the

:49:28. > :49:33.experience was there was rewarded my decision, and it has just gone from

:49:34. > :49:38.strength to strength. Emily Wold you agree? Yes, 100%. That has changed

:49:39. > :49:46.my whole view on eating and what I put in my body. So what do you eat?

:49:47. > :49:50.Give me an example. Lots of potatoes, steamed vegetables, lots

:49:51. > :49:56.of vegan cheese, every supermarket now sells vegan cheeses. Nuts,

:49:57. > :50:05.crisps, a lot of the same stuff, vegan burgers, lasagne is, great

:50:06. > :50:09.carbonaras. Everything you used to eat but a vegan nosed version. And

:50:10. > :50:13.you know what is in it, rather than stabbing something a few times,

:50:14. > :50:18.whacking it in the microwave or throwing it on the grill can put all

:50:19. > :50:21.the love into it, throw it into something else that you would love

:50:22. > :50:27.the taste of and typically you know what has gone into it. I was reading

:50:28. > :50:31.you were a massive meat eater. I used to work in a coffee shop, and I

:50:32. > :50:42.would be cutting when somebody would come to the counter and say what

:50:43. > :50:46.vegan options have you got? We have come as a couple, but having the

:50:47. > :50:49.catalyst for thinking differently is the big thing setting the majority

:50:50. > :50:53.of people apart from meeting a decision like this. It was not

:50:54. > :50:58.something in my periphery at all, not something, like I say, I was

:50:59. > :51:02.looking at all the stereotypes, wearing sacks and dreadlocks,

:51:03. > :51:07.thinking OK. Haven't seen many of those this morning. They are

:51:08. > :51:15.perceptions to be broken down. Does that mean you forced to do it?

:51:16. > :51:19.Absolutely not. We watched Okja, the film, and it had us in tears at the

:51:20. > :51:23.end, we were perfectly convinced there was no reason to kill any

:51:24. > :51:26.animals to eat them. I have had a long-term health condition and I

:51:27. > :51:32.have seen a dramatic shift in my health in the last 12 days. Really?

:51:33. > :51:36.I literally couldn't do anything other than my job, my focus was my

:51:37. > :51:42.job, and now I cycled the three hours the other night. You have two

:51:43. > :51:50.where her out now. I have seen an amazing transformation and I want to

:51:51. > :51:53.share it with people. I want to bring in Sophie, would you recommend

:51:54. > :51:58.anybody becomes a vegan, is it healthy for us to become beacons? It

:51:59. > :52:01.can be, but it is woolly hard work to make a vegan diet healthy. You

:52:02. > :52:06.have to think carefully about what you want to eat all the time. I have

:52:07. > :52:09.never recommended any of my patients following a vegan diet, I can't see

:52:10. > :52:13.myself changing that, it is very important to make sure your diet is

:52:14. > :52:19.safe and gives you all the nutrition you need. I have been a nutritional

:52:20. > :52:24.scientist to 13 or 14 years now, it would be very hard for me on a

:52:25. > :52:26.day-to-day basis to make sure I was meeting all of my nutritional

:52:27. > :52:31.requirements. Most people would need to take some supplements. It is very

:52:32. > :52:37.challenging to do that just on a vegan diet. Do you guys take

:52:38. > :52:43.supplements? I used to be the, but the rest of the time I have a meal

:52:44. > :52:46.plan written out. I feel really empowered by making that choice.

:52:47. > :52:51.Before I was stating whatever, now it is I need to eat this much to get

:52:52. > :52:57.this much magnesium, and if I eat chickpeas, I am getting all the

:52:58. > :53:01.protein. Sounds exhausting! I find it William Harrold. You think about

:53:02. > :53:07.football. It is important to know you can be healthy and a vegan, but

:53:08. > :53:11.you can also be unhealthy and be a beacon. It is not just about giving

:53:12. > :53:16.up animal products. You need to include all the vital nutrients you

:53:17. > :53:19.need, you can have a really good and healthy diet, and scientific

:53:20. > :53:24.evidence does look at more plant -based diets, not necessarily vegan,

:53:25. > :53:27.a lot of fruit and veg, whole grains, beans and pulses, these are

:53:28. > :53:36.food groups that the government, World Health Organisation, the world

:53:37. > :53:38.Cancer research funds, will include people to -- encourage people to

:53:39. > :53:42.include more plant -based things in their diets because they include

:53:43. > :53:48.vital nutrients. People who follow more plant -based have lower rates

:53:49. > :53:51.of obesity, cardiovascular disease, but it is very important when people

:53:52. > :53:54.are considering taking a vegan diets that they are aware of the nutrients

:53:55. > :54:00.they could be lacking and make sure they include foods. One of the

:54:01. > :54:03.important things is if any of you spent that much time looking at your

:54:04. > :54:07.diet, whether you are looking at making it into a vegan diet or a

:54:08. > :54:11.much better balanced on the board diet, you would feel much better. It

:54:12. > :54:14.is not just because you have cut out all those things. That is because

:54:15. > :54:19.you are focusing on your diet and looking at the balance of it. I

:54:20. > :54:23.don't take any supplements, protein powders, ie the balanced, I do think

:54:24. > :54:27.about it that much daily first it becomes second nature quickly. I

:54:28. > :54:31.think nature has pretty much provided. If you are worried, you

:54:32. > :54:36.can look into it and take the supplements and eventually you

:54:37. > :54:39.quickly learn it. For me it is out of compassion, you watched Okja, you

:54:40. > :54:42.saw that animals are suffering and it is no longer necessary because

:54:43. > :54:47.you can make it work. Even if it is a bit of extra work in the

:54:48. > :54:55.beginning, you are doing it out of goodwill. Compassion. I can't

:54:56. > :55:04.comment on the ethical side of things, I am probably a moral

:55:05. > :55:07.beacon! Everyone is against Anil suffering, ask every person.

:55:08. > :55:11.Everyone would agree. What is the spectrum, is it OK to kill it for

:55:12. > :55:17.food, now we realise that one in five are considering it, one in 20

:55:18. > :55:22.probably is a vegan now in the UK and no one is falling dead, no one

:55:23. > :55:32.getting these ailments. We don't know long-term. There has not been

:55:33. > :55:35.that many vegans for this amount of time. I am a working mum, and I

:55:36. > :55:38.think this sounds a flipping nightmare to become a bad enough to

:55:39. > :55:42.get my children to eat at the best of times, but it sounds like it

:55:43. > :55:48.takes a lot of planning, you said you had a meal plan? I am a research

:55:49. > :55:52.by nature, that is my profession as well, so definitely I am that way,

:55:53. > :55:56.but it literally to me half a day, and then I am set, I don't feel like

:55:57. > :56:00.it takes that much time in the long run. You can easily incorporated

:56:01. > :56:06.once you have read it, watched the documentary is. My denting in the

:56:07. > :56:11.long term it is a difficult choice. I am a raw vegan, so I don't eat

:56:12. > :56:19.anything cooked, probably your nightmare! Why are you a raw Tegan?

:56:20. > :56:23.Health reasons, the diggers is not necessarily healthier, so I wanted

:56:24. > :56:26.to take that next step, and it was self reflection that led me to

:56:27. > :56:31.beginners, how can I be better? Then I got focused on trying to make

:56:32. > :56:35.everyone vegan, and I realised I'm getting caught up in all the beacon

:56:36. > :56:43.junk foods and trying to change other people, I need to work my

:56:44. > :56:50.shelf, so I -- work on myself. I can only judge things on how I feel week

:56:51. > :56:54.to week. Maybe ten years down the line something changes. Life leads

:56:55. > :56:59.us to choose things day by day and how we feel at those moments. Emily,

:57:00. > :57:03.that first shop you went on as a vegan, was it a challenge? We heard

:57:04. > :57:08.there are perks out there, beacon cheese and things, but you must have

:57:09. > :57:12.spent a long time working out... ? Not really, once you have the food

:57:13. > :57:16.in, once you have made the James Comey go to the cupboards, there is

:57:17. > :57:20.chickpeas, an array of nuts and all this kind of stuff. It just makes

:57:21. > :57:23.sense. Once I had made a conscious decision, once I had figured out

:57:24. > :57:34.that everything that happens, looking into the meat and dairy

:57:35. > :57:36.industry, it clicks, da Vinci said simplification is the ultimate

:57:37. > :57:40.sophistication. When you signify your diet, you take out animal

:57:41. > :57:46.products, then you start to appreciate food more and get more

:57:47. > :57:58.creative with it. Do you think it is realistic for working parents to do

:57:59. > :58:03.this? Our role is to do this particularly when you have families,

:58:04. > :58:10.and bone health is so important, where there are clinical cases, very

:58:11. > :58:15.small children can have serious neurological, but the one thing to

:58:16. > :58:20.take is a plant -based diet, eating more plant is great. We are right

:58:21. > :58:22.out of time, I am being shouted at in my ear. BBC Newsroom Live comes

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