31/07/2017

:00:07. > :00:11.I'm Chloe Tilley, standing in for Victoria.

:00:12. > :00:17.Will Government plans to recruit thousands more mental health workers

:00:18. > :00:20.in England over the next four years be enough to ensure patients

:00:21. > :00:31.I think the mistake that Health Secretary

:00:32. > :00:33.after Health Secretary after Health Secretary

:00:34. > :00:37.and governments have made that if you want to solve a problem

:00:38. > :00:40.you only have to put the money in, but actually you've

:00:41. > :00:43.We'll discuss the plans with campaigners, medical

:00:44. > :00:46.professionals and patients - and we want to hear your stories.

:00:47. > :00:50.Also this morning, ceremonies to mark the one-hundredth

:00:51. > :00:58.one of the bloodiest of the First World War.

:00:59. > :01:07.At this time 100 years ago today the Battle of Passchendaele had just

:01:08. > :01:11.begun. The offensive was under way, the first British and Commonwealth

:01:12. > :01:19.troops had already fallen. Today Prince Charles and the Duke and

:01:20. > :01:23.Duchess of Cambridge will be at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest

:01:24. > :01:25.Commonwealth cemetery in the world, most of the fallen foul at

:01:26. > :01:28.Passchendaele. And pressure mounts on Channel 4

:01:29. > :01:31.to scrap a programme about Princess Diana featuring

:01:32. > :01:33.archive interviews in which she Welcome to the programme,

:01:34. > :01:45.we're live until 11 this morning. Waiting for GCSE or A Level results

:01:46. > :01:48.is nerve-wracking enough, without the added worry that some

:01:49. > :01:52.of the grades might be wrong. The exams regulator Ofqual

:01:53. > :01:55.is tightening up the rules for appeals this summer,

:01:56. > :01:57.but are they also doing enough to check the results

:01:58. > :02:02.are right in the first place? If you're a student,

:02:03. > :02:04.a teacher or an exam marker then we'd love to hear

:02:05. > :02:06.from you this morning. Do get in touch - use

:02:07. > :02:09.the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text,

:02:10. > :02:12.you will be charged workers are to be recruited

:02:13. > :02:21.by the NHS in England. The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt,

:02:22. > :02:25.said the aim is to treat an extra The Royal College of Nursing has

:02:26. > :02:30.questioned how so many staff can be hired and trained,

:02:31. > :02:32.in such a short space of time. Here's more from our Health

:02:33. > :02:38.correspondent Dominic Hughes. Ministers in England have already

:02:39. > :02:41.acknowledged the treatment offered to patients struggling with mental

:02:42. > :02:43.health problems suffers in comparison to those

:02:44. > :02:48.with physical ailments. An extra ?1 billion in funding

:02:49. > :02:51.for mental health services Now we know that some of that cash

:02:52. > :02:57.will be spent on recruiting thousands of extra nurses,

:02:58. > :02:58.doctors, psychologists The plan includes recruiting 2,000

:02:59. > :03:03.staff to work in child and adolescent mental health

:03:04. > :03:09.services, nearly 3,000 extra therapists working with adults,

:03:10. > :03:11.and an extra 4,800 staff, mostly nurses, working

:03:12. > :03:14.in crisis care. Because mental health services

:03:15. > :03:18.have been underfunded for such a long time,

:03:19. > :03:22.this initiative, in and of itself, won't help us to achieve the parity

:03:23. > :03:29.of esteem that so many of us want. But what it will do is set

:03:30. > :03:32.the foundations to be able to look forward to a future where mental

:03:33. > :03:35.health is treated on an equal But simply creating posts does not

:03:36. > :03:39.always mean you can always find These jobs are among the most

:03:40. > :03:46.challenging in the health service. Data published last week showed

:03:47. > :03:49.that, even before this latest recruitment drive,

:03:50. > :03:51.many thousands of nursing posts across the wider

:03:52. > :04:00.NHS remain unfilled. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

:04:01. > :04:03.has been speaking about He told the BBC it was time

:04:04. > :04:07.to end the "historic imbalance" between mental

:04:08. > :04:16.and physical health services. We are confident we can get these

:04:17. > :04:19.numbers, there are people trained in mental health nursing, trained as

:04:20. > :04:23.psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS. We have a

:04:24. > :04:28.programme to attract them back into the NHS. We want to say to them that

:04:29. > :04:32.we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health in Europe

:04:33. > :04:40.at the moment, we are proud of what we are doing but we want to do much

:04:41. > :04:42.more. Will be talking more about this at 9:15am.

:04:43. > :04:45.Julian Worricker is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:04:46. > :04:49.The United States says President Putin's decision to order

:04:50. > :04:51.755 of its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is unjustified.

:04:52. > :04:58.The move is in retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US

:04:59. > :05:00.Congress for Russia's alleged involvement in last year's

:05:01. > :05:05.presidential election and the annexation of Crimea.

:05:06. > :05:07.The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, appears to have stepped back

:05:08. > :05:10.from a suggestion that the UK could cut taxes and regulation

:05:11. > :05:14.in a bid to undercut EU countries after Brexit.

:05:15. > :05:16.In an interview with the French newspaper, Le Monde,

:05:17. > :05:19.he says the government has no plans to make big changes

:05:20. > :05:21.to tax policy in order to attract global investment.

:05:22. > :05:24.His remarks are in sharp contrast with what he said

:05:25. > :05:33.The editor of The Sunday Times has apologised for an article suggesting

:05:34. > :05:35.the BBC presenters Claudia Winkleman and Vanessa Feltz earned high

:05:36. > :05:38.The article, by the columnist Kevin Myers,

:05:39. > :05:41.was published in the newspaper's Irish edition and online and has

:05:42. > :05:47.Speaking on BBC Radio London, Ms Feltz has expressed her

:05:48. > :05:57.I would have thought that after all these years I

:05:58. > :06:01.would have been immune to it, and that is not at all how I felt.

:06:02. > :06:05.Also the layers of people at the newspaper who check

:06:06. > :06:10.copy before it goes into the paper, the subeditor, the legal team,

:06:11. > :06:14.thought that is blatantly anti-Semitic, vile and unsuitable,

:06:15. > :06:24.One in five MPs continues to employ a member of their family using

:06:25. > :06:31.taxpayers's money, despite the practice being banned for new

:06:32. > :06:35.members of Parliament. Of the 589 returning MPs, 120 do have declared

:06:36. > :06:40.the employment of a relative in the latest register of members financial

:06:41. > :06:45.interests. None of the 61 new MPs elected on June eight are allowed to

:06:46. > :06:48.do so. Campaigners say there needs to be a clear end date for all MPs.

:06:49. > :06:50.The High Court will today decide whether Tony Blair,

:06:51. > :06:53.former foreign secretary Jack Straw and former attorney general

:06:54. > :06:58.Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted over the 2003 Iraq War.

:06:59. > :07:01.The attempt to bring them to court was launched

:07:02. > :07:02.by a former Iraqi general, Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat,

:07:03. > :07:08.who calls the invasion a "crime of aggression".

:07:09. > :07:10.HIV testing should be offered to patients when they register

:07:11. > :07:13.with a new GP in areas where there are high

:07:14. > :07:15.rates of infection, according to new research.

:07:16. > :07:19.More than 13,000 people are unaware that they have the condition -

:07:20. > :07:21.Researchers from two London universities say screening

:07:22. > :07:28.Our health correspondent, Jane Dreaper, reports.

:07:29. > :07:31.A simple finger prick test - that is all that is needed now

:07:32. > :07:36.GPs' surgeries in some parts of London are making

:07:37. > :07:43.This study says those efforts should be much more widespread.

:07:44. > :07:46.The researchers looked at surgeries where new patients are offered a HIV

:07:47. > :07:54.This led to a much higher rate of diagnosing the virus.

:07:55. > :07:59.The authors say the benefits mean more screening is affordable.

:08:00. > :08:04.That means they carry the virus without actually knowing it.

:08:05. > :08:10.So having an HIV test at your surgery will allow

:08:11. > :08:13.you to have access to excellent treatment, but then

:08:14. > :08:15.also prevent people - prevent you from passing

:08:16. > :08:25.Routine testing has previously been recommended by Public Health England

:08:26. > :08:29.But investment in testing has fallen in some areas because of financial

:08:30. > :08:31.pressures on local authorities' public health budgets.

:08:32. > :08:33.The charity Terrence Higgins Trust called on healthcare commissioners

:08:34. > :08:52.Cristiano Ronaldo will appear in Madrid today accused of tax fraud.

:08:53. > :08:58.He is the latest Spanish spokesman to fall foul of this. If found

:08:59. > :09:04.guilty he could face a prison sentence.

:09:05. > :09:06.Dozens of people were left suspended in mid-air after a cable

:09:07. > :09:09.car came to a stop over the River Rhine in Germany.

:09:10. > :09:11.Fire crews and rescue teams in Cologne used

:09:12. > :09:14.a crane to reach the 75 trapped passengers, some of whom were

:09:15. > :09:17.A number of children were lowered to the ground.

:09:18. > :09:24.Prince Charles will attend the second day of commemorations

:09:25. > :09:27.to mark the 100th anniversary of the start of the Battle

:09:28. > :09:34.Half a million Allied and German soldiers were killed,

:09:35. > :09:39.wounded or went missing in action during the three months of fighting

:09:40. > :09:46.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a service with descendants

:09:47. > :09:49.of those who fought there. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:09:50. > :09:58.News - more at 9.30. Thank you. We will be speaking later

:09:59. > :10:02.about the growing pressure on Channel 4 to scrap a programme which

:10:03. > :10:06.shows Princess Diana talking frankly about her personal life. Mick on

:10:07. > :10:10.Facebook says, she will always be alive in people's hearts, she is not

:10:11. > :10:12.here to defend herself from the rubbish people keep putting out to

:10:13. > :10:15.score points, let her rest in peace. Do get in touch with us

:10:16. > :10:17.throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:10:18. > :10:20.and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

:10:21. > :10:31.with Kat Downes. Kat, a great night for England's

:10:32. > :10:33.women. So England women are

:10:34. > :10:35.through to the final of the European Championships

:10:36. > :10:43.in Hungary - No mean feat. They beat France for

:10:44. > :10:46.the first time in 43 years and manager Mark Sampson may be relieved

:10:47. > :10:51.because he said before the match that England could beat France even

:10:52. > :10:58.if they did not play at their best. I don't think that is what happened

:10:59. > :11:02.but it only took one goal from Jody Taylor and England won. They held on

:11:03. > :11:06.for the rest of the match, some goalmouth skirmishes as the French

:11:07. > :11:11.attacked in the final minutes but England held on. The result means

:11:12. > :11:15.that England are now the highest ranked team in the tournament after

:11:16. > :11:19.defending champions Germany were knocked out. Does that make them the

:11:20. > :11:25.favourites? This is what the manager said after the match. We always

:11:26. > :11:29.talked about the fact that you can't just turn up and click your fingers

:11:30. > :11:34.and hope it comes together, these are the results of sheer hard work,

:11:35. > :11:38.obsession with wanting to be the best supporting your mates through

:11:39. > :11:42.it for the two years. All that work has now come to fruition. I'm just

:11:43. > :11:45.so proud of them because to reach that level of performance

:11:46. > :11:51.considering where we were four years ago is a huge achievement for them.

:11:52. > :11:55.But I know that they want more. England have been beaten by France

:11:56. > :11:59.at the last three major tournaments yet it is England who go through to

:12:00. > :12:03.face the Netherlands, the host nation, in the semifinals. Not only

:12:04. > :12:08.will they play a team in form, they'll be taking on the home crowd

:12:09. > :12:10.as well. Let's not get carried away! Let's talk about Lewis Hamilton.

:12:11. > :12:13.Lewis Hamilton let his teammate over take him in the closing stages

:12:14. > :12:15.of yesterday's Grand Prix, so some good sportsmanship

:12:16. > :12:24.Is this about Hamilton being a gentleman or team orders? I think it

:12:25. > :12:30.was the right thing to do. I think Lewis Hamilton showed sportsmanship,

:12:31. > :12:34.following team orders, it has definitely sent the right message

:12:35. > :12:39.and is the right way of going about things. Let me take you through the

:12:40. > :12:43.race. Sebastian Vettel was in front extending his Championship lead over

:12:44. > :12:47.Hamilton but was struggling with his steering. Valtteri Bottas, the team

:12:48. > :12:53.mate of Lewis Hamilton, was closing in on the leading Ferraris, Hamilton

:12:54. > :12:57.was closing in on him and Hamilton said if you let me overtake my team

:12:58. > :13:01.mate I think I can close that gap at the top of the drivers Championship.

:13:02. > :13:05.So Valtteri Bottas allows them to go past but it becomes clear that

:13:06. > :13:11.Hamilton won't be able to chase down the Ferraris so he keeps his word

:13:12. > :13:14.and says, I wasn't able to chase the Ferraris Stansell, Valtteri Bottas,

:13:15. > :13:19.you can go past me and take those points in the coming third at the

:13:20. > :13:24.Hungarian Grand Prix. So now people are asking was that good

:13:25. > :13:29.sportsmanship from Hamilton, was he just following team orders or in the

:13:30. > :13:34.cut-throat world of Formula 1, where Sebastian Vettel is now 14 points

:13:35. > :13:37.clear at the top of the drivers's Championship should Hamilton have

:13:38. > :13:41.gone for it and closed the gap because he might regretted by the

:13:42. > :13:45.end of the season. He says, in my mind, I want to win the Championship

:13:46. > :13:49.the right way. I don't know if that will come back to bite me in the

:13:50. > :13:52.backside or not. I want to win it the right way and I think today was

:13:53. > :14:00.the right way to do things. Whether you agree or not is up to you. Thank

:14:01. > :14:01.you, Kat, we will find out at the end of the season if that was costly

:14:02. > :14:06.for Lewis Hamilton. Now, tt's several years

:14:07. > :14:07.since the Government health provision on an equal footing

:14:08. > :14:11.with other health services, but many patients still struggle

:14:12. > :14:13.to access the services they need. It's a problem we've covered

:14:14. > :14:16.extensively on this programme. So will plans to recruit more

:14:17. > :14:18.than 20,000 extra mental health The plans involve increasing

:14:19. > :14:23.the number of trained nurses, therapists, psychiatrists and other

:14:24. > :14:28.mental health professionals by 2021. Earlier, the Health Secretary Jeremy

:14:29. > :14:30.Hunt explained the numbers to Naga Munchetty on BBC Breakfast

:14:31. > :14:33.and said nurses have The 21,000 number

:14:34. > :14:38.is for posts overall. That isn't just nurses,

:14:39. > :14:42.that is psychiatrists, that is therapists who help people

:14:43. > :14:45.with conditions like depression and anxiety, and nurses,

:14:46. > :14:47.and people working in different But nurses are a very,

:14:48. > :14:52.very important part of it, and we are confident that we can

:14:53. > :14:55.get these numbers. There are people who are trained

:14:56. > :14:59.in mental health nursing, people who are trained

:15:00. > :15:02.as psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS,

:15:03. > :15:05.and we have a programme to attract And what we want to say to them

:15:06. > :15:11.is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

:15:12. > :15:14.in Europe going on at the moment. We're proud of what we're doing,

:15:15. > :15:21.but we want to do a lot more. We still have too many people

:15:22. > :15:24.in this country who... where a young

:15:25. > :15:26.life is blighted because we're not getting them the mental health care

:15:27. > :15:29.that they need quickly enough. There are too many older people

:15:30. > :15:31.who are living in isolation and suffering and depression

:15:32. > :15:34.and they think it is automatic and This is a very important issue,

:15:35. > :15:39.I don't think anyone would deny that, and when it is such

:15:40. > :15:41.an important issue, I wonder how you think you're going to recruit

:15:42. > :15:45.nurses when there is a 1% pay cap, when it seems that all you're

:15:46. > :15:48.going to be doing is, what, placing advertisements for a job

:15:49. > :15:53.which many think is underpaid, low-paid, and your pay rise

:15:54. > :15:56.is going to be less than inflation, so you're actually earning less

:15:57. > :15:59.money each year doing a job It is a very tough job,

:16:00. > :16:04.and I would say that nurses on the front line have

:16:05. > :16:06.never worked harder. But we are expanding

:16:07. > :16:09.the nursing workforce. We have nearly 6,000 more

:16:10. > :16:11.nurses on the front line One of the reasons that we have been

:16:12. > :16:22.able to expand the workforce to date is because with a limited budget

:16:23. > :16:26.and very difficult economic situation, we have

:16:27. > :16:28.shown pay discipline. But we have to balance that

:16:29. > :16:30.against the need for recruitment, And that's why we have

:16:31. > :16:37.this independent process with the pay review body,

:16:38. > :16:39.and that's why we will listen carefully to what the pay

:16:40. > :16:41.review body says before We can speak to Diane Hardiman

:16:42. > :16:47.is a psychotherapist Mandy Stevens has worked in mental

:16:48. > :16:54.health services for 30 years and recently found herself admitted

:16:55. > :16:56.to a mental health unit. Paul Farmer from the mental

:16:57. > :16:58.health charity, MIND. Stephanie Aitken from

:16:59. > :17:14.the Royal College of Nursing. Thank you for coming to speak to us.

:17:15. > :17:17.Diane, you train counsellors, what do you make of what Jeremy Hunt

:17:18. > :17:20.announced today? It sounds fantastic. It would be interesting

:17:21. > :17:26.to know exactly how many therapists and what he means by therapists

:17:27. > :17:29.being brought in. We have a lot of trainees, a lot of qualified

:17:30. > :17:35.counsellors who can't find paid work once they're trained. So, the idea

:17:36. > :17:38.of increasing the number available sounds fantastic, but whether it

:17:39. > :17:43.works or not and how we can actually get it happening, I don't know. But

:17:44. > :17:46.it sounds great. What do you think Stephanie from the Royal College of

:17:47. > :17:50.Nursing prospective, do you think it is realistic? So we'd welcome it

:17:51. > :17:55.because anything that's addresses some of the issues that we have got

:17:56. > :17:59.around parity of he is seem r teem is really important, but we have

:18:00. > :18:03.concerns about the fact that in terms of recruit, retain and retrain

:18:04. > :18:07.that how is that actually going to happen? So we think they're laudable

:18:08. > :18:12.ambition, but there is very little detail in the plan about how that's

:18:13. > :18:15.going to be achieved. So to deliver the number of staff, that Jeremy

:18:16. > :18:18.Hunt is talking about, when would the people need to start their

:18:19. > :18:24.training? How quickly would you need to get people? If you are looking

:18:25. > :18:28.into recruiting into post for 2020, they need to be recruited interest

:18:29. > :18:29.this September and with the changes in student funding at

:18:30. > :18:33.pre-registration level then there are real challenges around that. We

:18:34. > :18:37.know currently that it is less attractive and the numbers are down

:18:38. > :18:42.for recruitment for September. Mandy, you have got a unique

:18:43. > :18:44.prospective, a truly unique prospective to have worked so long

:18:45. > :18:49.in mental health services and then yourself having to access the

:18:50. > :18:55.services. So what are your thoughts as a professional and as patient? I

:18:56. > :18:58.worked for 15 years as a qualified nurse and when you are with people,

:18:59. > :19:01.what is so important is the communication and the relationship

:19:02. > :19:04.that you build up with the people that you're looking after. 15 years

:19:05. > :19:07.working as a director and a leader so you then have to manage the

:19:08. > :19:12.services, that's when you need to make sure that we've got enough

:19:13. > :19:16.staff, who are well trained, caring, compassionate and supportive. So,

:19:17. > :19:21.that the workforce are the people who deliver our service. So having

:19:22. > :19:25.then received services from mental health services myself, I benefited

:19:26. > :19:30.from outstanding care in the mental health trust that I was looked

:19:31. > :19:33.after. So, they care equality commission regulators, there is two

:19:34. > :19:38.mental health trusts in the country that are outstanding and I live in

:19:39. > :19:41.Hackney so I received care from East London foundation trust which is an

:19:42. > :19:45.outstanding trust. So I was in hospital for three months and I

:19:46. > :19:50.received that fantastic care in my hour of need so the staff were cam

:19:51. > :19:57.passionate, kind, caring, consistent. There was always pempl

:19:58. > :20:02.nant staff, people who knew me, and it helped building up the

:20:03. > :20:05.relationship. But I know that 98% of people who use services within our

:20:06. > :20:10.country don't receive that high level of care even at the moment.

:20:11. > :20:14.So, I was very lucky to receive such a unique high level of care. It was

:20:15. > :20:19.wonderful. Paul, I can see you nodding away. Mandy tells a great

:20:20. > :20:23.story about how important staff are. I mean the mental health services we

:20:24. > :20:27.don't have MRI scanners, we have people. People who provide the care

:20:28. > :20:30.and support to people to really make a big difference in their greatest

:20:31. > :20:35.hour of need. So I think the challenge is that the moment we have

:20:36. > :20:38.a huge amount of inconsistency in terms of what people experience

:20:39. > :20:44.locally on the grown and that's because of the very huge variety of

:20:45. > :20:50.staff availability and staff capability as well. So and we have

:20:51. > :20:53.never had a plan for mental health staff. This is the first time we are

:20:54. > :20:58.seeing those elements come into play, but it is a big challenge to

:20:59. > :21:02.get there over the next four to five years. The thing about the area of

:21:03. > :21:07.mental health this. Is one of the hardest jobs in the NHS, isn't it?

:21:08. > :21:13.Attracting staff is a problem and retaining them is a massive issue,

:21:14. > :21:16.isn't it? It's a passion. My colleagues, all of us who work in

:21:17. > :21:21.mental health services, it's about the relationship that you build up

:21:22. > :21:24.with our communities and our people. So nearly all of my colleagues who

:21:25. > :21:28.work in mental health services are all nurses, care. You know you

:21:29. > :21:33.really want to do the best that you can, but it's very difficult when

:21:34. > :21:36.you've got high waiting lists and you have got high demand and if

:21:37. > :21:40.you're working with people who have got really challenging needs and

:21:41. > :21:44.people who are very high risk to themselves or other people, you need

:21:45. > :21:47.to be alert. You need to be very consistent and you need to be very,

:21:48. > :21:53.you need to be looked after yourself as an individual. So, I was really

:21:54. > :21:57.delighted that Paul and MIND have started doing work around the mental

:21:58. > :22:04.health of people who work in mental health services which is fantastic

:22:05. > :22:08.to see because you know, it has a lot of personal toll on people. What

:22:09. > :22:12.do you think needs to change in order to attract those members of

:22:13. > :22:16.staff that would be amazing and retain them? There is a lot of

:22:17. > :22:20.stigma around mental health. There is something about I would support

:22:21. > :22:24.any campaign that actually really makes clear what the value

:22:25. > :22:27.contribution people who work with those with mental health in a range

:22:28. > :22:32.of different roles, but particularly for us in nursing. Actually add in

:22:33. > :22:35.terms of that. There is huge job satisfaction, but job satisfaction

:22:36. > :22:39.isn't enough. People also need recognition and they need to be able

:22:40. > :22:43.to actually feel that they are able to support themselves and their

:22:44. > :22:47.families and loved ones in the role that they are and actually, we have

:22:48. > :22:52.seen that the pay has actually, the value of your pay has gone down for

:22:53. > :22:56.nurses over years and that's why we have launched our scrap the cut

:22:57. > :22:58.campaign. People need to have recognition both financially and in

:22:59. > :23:06.terms of the value that society offers. Picking up on the stigma

:23:07. > :23:08.point. Although there is a lot of stigma around mental health,

:23:09. > :23:15.probably this year, we have seen that eroding as we have seen the

:23:16. > :23:20.work of Times Change And The Heads Together Campaign. Prince Harry

:23:21. > :23:24.talking about his own experiences? Younger people changing mindset

:23:25. > :23:28.about mental health as an issue. The big opportunity here it is to

:23:29. > :23:34.attract that young group of people and for example, as we have heard

:23:35. > :23:37.earlier, there are thousands of people who do sky dolling degrees

:23:38. > :23:41.and we make it so difficult for them to come in and work in the NHS as

:23:42. > :23:46.therapists or in other mental health roles. So, there is a big

:23:47. > :23:50.opportunity here to kind of make the most of that huge awareness around

:23:51. > :23:55.mental health so that we can bring the next generation of staff into

:23:56. > :24:00.working in mental health. Diane, what are your thoughts on that? I

:24:01. > :24:04.agree. From what I've heard from the previous three speakers I agree with

:24:05. > :24:08.what they are saying, but what I would personally and this is my

:24:09. > :24:13.experience in the past of working in the NHS, is to have a

:24:14. > :24:17.multidisciplinary team involving psychiatrists and nursing staff,

:24:18. > :24:20.counsellors and psychologists, everyone working together and

:24:21. > :24:22.supporting one another and supporting the patient ultimately,

:24:23. > :24:27.and that's fantastic. The idea talking about the nurses and their

:24:28. > :24:30.pay, for counsellors, I train a lot of extremely talented and very

:24:31. > :24:37.gifted compassionate people, the same qualities that are needed to

:24:38. > :24:40.work as nurses, but to find work that's paid, because counselling

:24:41. > :24:45.isn't always acknowledged as having the value, we are seen as the tea

:24:46. > :24:50.and sympathy brigade as opposed to professionals in our own right. And

:24:51. > :24:54.there is a lot of volunteer positions even for qualified

:24:55. > :24:59.counsellors, but so little actually paid and recognised and again,

:25:00. > :25:04.recognition across-the-board in mental health for everybody, you

:25:05. > :25:07.know, all the away across to and create a unified multidisciplinary

:25:08. > :25:10.working team can only be good for the people working in the team,

:25:11. > :25:15.supporting each other and the patients. So do you think that this

:25:16. > :25:19.is going to put mental health services on a par with physical

:25:20. > :25:24.services for example? Well, we really welcome the plan and I think

:25:25. > :25:26.it is going to go a long way to support and engage a forward

:25:27. > :25:29.movement, but I think there is a long way to go. It's great in the

:25:30. > :25:34.document that they are talking about. I think its 5,000 staff

:25:35. > :25:38.coming into crisis services. So when people are desperate and really need

:25:39. > :25:45.urgent care, there is somebody avail cable. But... It doesn't happen now,

:25:46. > :25:48.does it? It does, but it's patchy across the country it is fair to

:25:49. > :25:52.say. My experience was great, but it is not everywhere and where you have

:25:53. > :25:55.long waiting lists and things, but the most important thing with all

:25:56. > :26:00.health care is to support people to stay well and safe at home in the

:26:01. > :26:03.community. So putting the resources into preventative mental health care

:26:04. > :26:08.and community services to keep people safe and well which will then

:26:09. > :26:12.prevent people getting more unwell and needing to come into hospital

:26:13. > :26:18.for example. I'm hopeful that through counselling they were,

:26:19. > :26:22.therapy, support services, community psychiatric nurses and liaising with

:26:23. > :26:27.the voluntary sector, we can support people to stay well at home. It is

:26:28. > :26:29.better for the people, better for the families and better for the

:26:30. > :26:33.communities and it is better than coming into hospital and using

:26:34. > :26:37.extensive resources and it is just traumatic. I would agree. When we

:26:38. > :26:40.talk about mental health and physical health having parity of he

:26:41. > :26:43.is seem, it is important to think about the current workforce and how

:26:44. > :26:47.they are working. So we've always sort of divided the way that we see

:26:48. > :26:52.people either they have a physical or mental health and that's not how

:26:53. > :26:56.people are. People have a variety of complex needs. So we need to look at

:26:57. > :26:59.our health force and they need to be invested in in order to be able to

:27:00. > :27:05.care appropriately with the right skills in the right place at the

:27:06. > :27:10.right time to enable good care fob given. That's where this plan is

:27:11. > :27:15.great. It gets us to one particular place, but it's that wider story

:27:16. > :27:17.about having a multidisciplinary workforce, thinking about how you

:27:18. > :27:20.don't just train mental health nurses, but all nurses, all doctors,

:27:21. > :27:25.in really understanding mental health. How you recognise the vital

:27:26. > :27:28.role that peer support workers can play in terms of people bringing

:27:29. > :27:31.their own lived experience into supporting each other. I think

:27:32. > :27:36.that's the broader piece that we need to kind of move on to next to

:27:37. > :27:40.really get to that point where we can genuinely say that physical

:27:41. > :27:43.health and mental health are on a par. In that case, do you think the

:27:44. > :27:47.Government truly understands what needs to be done in the NHS

:27:48. > :27:51.regarding mental health to create that parity? Well, I think the plan

:27:52. > :27:58.is pretty good. It's based on what is possible and achievable in the

:27:59. > :28:01.current time frame and it was co produced by lots of people who

:28:02. > :28:05.brought their own opinions together. I think what it does though is it

:28:06. > :28:09.recognises that there is such, we are trying to unpackage you know

:28:10. > :28:12.decades and decades, arguably ever, there has never been a time when

:28:13. > :28:15.mental health has been prioritised, we are trying to do something

:28:16. > :28:19.significant and we want to do it now, but we need to put in place the

:28:20. > :28:22.investment, the workforce, we need to have good quality information. So

:28:23. > :28:26.we're going to get to a certain point. It's not going to be enough

:28:27. > :28:30.for most people yet, but at least it will be a step in the right

:28:31. > :28:35.direction. Lots of people getting in touch with their experiences. We

:28:36. > :28:40.have had an e-mail from a viewer who says, "I'm schizophrenic and I must

:28:41. > :28:46.have fortnightly injections. My local clinishing only has one nurse

:28:47. > :28:52.giving out ingeneral elections. ." Linda on Facebook says, "People

:28:53. > :28:55.watch Cas alt and think it's great. Nursing is stressle. It is overrun

:28:56. > :29:00.by paperwork, policies and procedures. Nursing is suffering

:29:01. > :29:03.from decades of constant under funding and political interference.

:29:04. > :29:06.Hospitals need the nurses, but don't need the vast am of back room

:29:07. > :29:11.management that drains the money. They do not need to be put under

:29:12. > :29:15.pressure to meet deadlines or targets or to work stupid hours

:29:16. > :29:23.because when they are forced to that's when stupid mistakes are

:29:24. > :29:28.made. ." Ali says, "I live in mid-Devon with bipolar. No support

:29:29. > :29:32.only from my GP who saved my life." Ken says, "Why are mental health

:29:33. > :29:36.nurses and specialists expected to pay for their training or any other

:29:37. > :29:40.nurses in the mental health service? Will people joining the Police

:29:41. > :29:44.Service or the Fire Service be expected to pay for their training?

:29:45. > :29:49.It not, why should nurses have to pay for their training? If the

:29:50. > :29:54.Government is putting money into the NHS is it new money or will other

:29:55. > :30:03.parts of the NHS be cut to pay for that?" Ceremonies to mark 100 years

:30:04. > :30:07.since the start of the Battle of Passchendaele are taking place.

:30:08. > :30:08.Prince Charles and the Prime Minister and 4,000 descendants will

:30:09. > :30:11.be in attendance. And research suggests new patients

:30:12. > :30:14.who sign up to GPs surgeries in high We'll speak to one of

:30:15. > :30:20.the researchers who says it Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom

:30:21. > :30:36.with a summary of today's news. Thoughts of extra mental health

:30:37. > :30:38.nurses are to be recruited by the NHS in England. The Health

:30:39. > :30:44.Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra one million

:30:45. > :30:47.people by 2021. The Royal College of Nursing questioned how so many staff

:30:48. > :30:57.can be hired and trained in such a short space of time. It's not long

:30:58. > :31:01.away, 20, 21, and those skilled nurses will need to be in training

:31:02. > :31:05.now. What we will need is lots of people coming in to train as mental

:31:06. > :31:07.health nurses this September when the programme is open, and that is

:31:08. > :31:17.not what we are seeing. The USA says President Putin 's

:31:18. > :31:21.decision to order its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is not

:31:22. > :31:24.justified. They have been told to leave by September one. This is in

:31:25. > :31:29.retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US Congress relating

:31:30. > :31:32.to Russia's alleged involvement in the last presidential election and

:31:33. > :31:40.its annexation of the Crimea. The Chancellor appears to have

:31:41. > :31:43.stepped back from a succession that the UK could cut tax regulation in a

:31:44. > :31:48.bid to undercut other countries. In an interview with a French newspaper

:31:49. > :31:56.he says the UK has no plans to change tax policy to encourage this.

:31:57. > :31:58.His remarks are in sharp contrast to what he told the German newspaper

:31:59. > :32:02.earlier this year. Afghan police say there's been

:32:03. > :32:05.a suicide explosion outside Several explosions were

:32:06. > :32:08.heard and a gun battle Civilians are being

:32:09. > :32:11.moved from the area. The so-called Islamic State group

:32:12. > :32:27.has claimed responsibility. The High Court will today

:32:28. > :32:30.decide whether Tony Blair, former foreign secretary Jack Straw

:32:31. > :32:32.and former attorney general Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted

:32:33. > :32:34.over the 2003 Iraq War. The attempt to bring them

:32:35. > :32:36.to court was launched by a former Iraqi general

:32:37. > :32:38.Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat, who calls the invasion

:32:39. > :32:40.a "crime of aggression". That's a summary of the latest BBC

:32:41. > :32:48.News - more at 10am. Thank you, let's get the sport now

:32:49. > :32:52.with Kat. England are through to the semifinals of the women's Euros,

:32:53. > :32:58.they beat France the first time in 43 gears thanks to one goal from

:32:59. > :33:03.Jody Taylor. They face the hosts, the Netherlands, in the semifinal.

:33:04. > :33:07.Sebastian Vettel won the Hungarian Grand Prix to extend his lead over

:33:08. > :33:10.Lewis Hamilton in the drivers Championship after Hamilton allowed

:33:11. > :33:14.team mate Valtteri Bottas to overtake him, keeping a promise he

:33:15. > :33:22.had made earlier in the race. England are closing in on a win over

:33:23. > :33:25.South Africa in the third test, they need to take six more wickets today

:33:26. > :33:30.to lead 2-1 in the Test series. In the world swimming Championships the

:33:31. > :33:37.men's relay team got a silver, a third medal of the championships for

:33:38. > :33:43.Adam Peaty who already had two gold medals. Back to you, Chloe. Thank

:33:44. > :33:45.you, Kat. 100 years ago today one

:33:46. > :33:48.of the most deadly battles Over the 3 months that followed,

:33:49. > :33:52.half a million British, Allied and German soldiers

:33:53. > :33:54.were killed or injured. It was fought in the trenches

:33:55. > :33:56.near the small village Many of the soldiers were drowned

:33:57. > :34:00.in thick mud that had been caused Events are now under way to

:34:01. > :34:06.commemorate the 100th anniversary - last night the Duke and Duchess

:34:07. > :34:09.of Cambridge laid wreathes and listened to the Last

:34:10. > :34:11.Post be played out. This is a reminder of the battle

:34:12. > :35:59.which claimed so many lives. Our correspondent Ben Brown

:36:00. > :36:01.is Tyne Cot cemetery in Belgium where many

:36:02. > :36:10.of the soldiers are buried. Yes, at this time 100 years ago

:36:11. > :36:15.today the Battle of Passchendaele was well under way. The offensive

:36:16. > :36:19.had began at 358 and in the early hours of that morning. The first

:36:20. > :36:25.British and Commonwealth troops had gone over the top and had fallen as

:36:26. > :36:28.well. Today at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest Commonwealth War

:36:29. > :36:33.cemetery in the world, Prince Charles and the Duke and Duchess of

:36:34. > :36:43.Cambridge will be here for a commemorative service, 100 years on.

:36:44. > :36:47.I am joined by the eminent historian, Glyn and also Tim Barrett

:36:48. > :36:55.whose grandfather Jack died 100 years ago today at the Battle of

:36:56. > :37:01.Passchendaele. Give us picture of what the men would have gone through

:37:02. > :37:05.a century ago. It is so beautiful today it is almost impossible to

:37:06. > :37:10.imagine the carnage. The bombardment had been intense, 4.5 million shells

:37:11. > :37:14.falling on German lines and at 3:50am the attack went on in gloomy

:37:15. > :37:19.weather, not at all like today. Some of the soldiers were held back

:37:20. > :37:23.instantly, others advanced quite far but before long the German counter

:37:24. > :37:28.attack came in and many of the advances were last and on both sides

:37:29. > :37:32.it was the beginning of 3.5 months before but that has come to

:37:33. > :37:36.epitomise the horrors of the Western front. Half a million casualties,

:37:37. > :37:41.killed, wounded or missing on both sides. Is important to reflect on

:37:42. > :37:45.the fact that both sides were traumatic, will remember the battle

:37:46. > :37:52.for the rain that fell on the afternoon of the 31st. It died and

:37:53. > :38:04.the were quite successful. But created a crisis in German morale.

:38:05. > :38:08.Tim, your grandfather died at the beginning of the battle, 100 years

:38:09. > :38:19.ago today. Jack Barrett, 36, lieutenant. You have a picture of

:38:20. > :38:25.him. Yes, I have. Tell us what you know about how he served and how he

:38:26. > :38:31.died. He was commissioned into the Rifle Brigade is a signals officer

:38:32. > :38:39.but ended up outside kitchen's Would, in charge of his men, tasked

:38:40. > :38:44.with capturing the machine-gun post. The objective was achieved but he

:38:45. > :38:51.was killed in the process along with another lieutenant. He was 36. He

:38:52. > :38:58.was quite old to be a lieutenant and his men caught Father Barrett! How

:38:59. > :39:03.important is it for you to come here one century on and remember? It is

:39:04. > :39:07.very important that we all remember the futility of what went on. I know

:39:08. > :39:16.it sounds trite but perhaps the younger generation now might get the

:39:17. > :39:20.idea that war is a waste of time! You have a letter that your

:39:21. > :39:25.grandfather wrote before the Battle of Passchendaele. He wrote it to his

:39:26. > :39:31.wife. Can you read some of it out? I will try. Six months before he died.

:39:32. > :39:38.My dearest old girl. By the time you get this, I'm sorry, I can't do

:39:39. > :39:43.this! Glyn Prysor read about. My dearest old girl, by the time you

:39:44. > :39:49.read this I fear the Germans will have said something over which has

:39:50. > :39:53.my name and address on it which will wipe me out and I want to say

:39:54. > :39:56.goodbye to you and leave it. I can never thank you enough for all you

:39:57. > :40:00.have given me. It is an awful wrench to leave you and the children

:40:01. > :40:03.because I had counted on doing with your help all I could do for them,

:40:04. > :40:07.they have been suspended and good and jolly from the first and by God

:40:08. > :40:11.'s grace they will continue as they have begun. Now it must be left to

:40:12. > :40:17.you. I cannot give you any help. Live your life, EV, as you think

:40:18. > :40:22.best. An incredibly emotional letter. A man who seemed almost

:40:23. > :40:33.certain that he was going to die here. Absolutely. Are so many people

:40:34. > :40:36.did feel that but to actually have a letter where he expresses the

:40:37. > :40:40.classic, there's a shell with my name on it, well, as you can see, it

:40:41. > :40:54.is very emotional. Glyn, do you think most of the men

:40:55. > :41:00.who went into the batter would not have come out alive? It is very hard

:41:01. > :41:03.for us to imagine what they went through, men like Jack, one of the

:41:04. > :41:09.inscriptions you will find in the cemeteries, families can choose a

:41:10. > :41:13.personal inscription, it says, to live in hearts we leave behind is

:41:14. > :41:21.not to die and the fact that we retain those memories is a very

:41:22. > :41:26.special thing. Thank you very much, Glyn Prysor, Tim Barrett, an

:41:27. > :41:29.emotional moment. Coverage of the ceremonies later today.

:41:30. > :41:32.And we'll have special live coverage of the remembrance ceremony

:41:33. > :41:35.at Tyne Cot Cemetery in Belgium with the BBC's Ben Brown from just

:41:36. > :41:39.The controversy surrounding a Channel 4 programme

:41:40. > :41:40.due to be aired about Princess Diana.

:41:41. > :41:43.We find out why the corporation is under pressure to pull it.

:41:44. > :41:46.People who live in areas with high rates of HIV should be automatically

:41:47. > :41:49.tested for the virus when they register with a new GP.

:41:50. > :41:51.That's what a group of researchers are recommending after running

:41:52. > :41:55.They had 80,000 people tested as part of the initial health check

:41:56. > :41:58.when they joined surgeries in the borough - and it quadrupled

:41:59. > :42:02.The research says not only would rolling this out

:42:03. > :42:07.save lives, but it would also save taxpayers money.

:42:08. > :42:09.We can speak to Alex Causton-Ronaldson,

:42:10. > :42:12.who was diagnosed with HIV three years ago, when he was 24,

:42:13. > :42:14.and Dr Werner Leber from Queen Mary University

:42:15. > :42:29.Thank you both for coming in. Alex, tell us how you were diagnosed. I

:42:30. > :42:33.started to get ill, lost a lot of weight rapidly. This I went to an A

:42:34. > :42:37.E department and they were too busy and I was asked to leave. I

:42:38. > :42:42.then went to a walk-in centre and they gave me penicillin because they

:42:43. > :42:46.did not know what was happening. It wasn't until I went to my GP on

:42:47. > :42:51.several occasions and we couldn't work out what was going on,

:42:52. > :42:59.eventually I said that I had had a partner with HIV. So I got referred

:43:00. > :43:02.to, I had to spend the whole day finding the clinic because it is

:43:03. > :43:08.outside the city where I was living, I had my test and three days later I

:43:09. > :43:12.found out I had HIV. Did you have suspicions? It was one of those

:43:13. > :43:17.things where you think about it and obstruct yourself, you know it is

:43:18. > :43:21.there, but I live in London and I'd heard about it a lot but it was

:43:22. > :43:27.almost like this idea that it wouldn't happen to me. So I suppose,

:43:28. > :43:33.even though I wish... I was presenting a lot of the symptoms of

:43:34. > :43:38.HIV, I never thought it might be theirs. Because originally I had

:43:39. > :43:41.tested negative in the January. That must have been inside the four week

:43:42. > :43:47.window where they can't pick it up on the initial test. Is this why you

:43:48. > :43:52.carried out the study of the stories like this where it takes a long time

:43:53. > :43:56.and it can be difficult for people to get this diagnosis? That's

:43:57. > :44:03.absolutely right. I think our work and other studies have shown that

:44:04. > :44:09.testing, screening, a routine test, HIV screening can produce, help

:44:10. > :44:15.identify people in the early stage of the infection. What is the test,

:44:16. > :44:20.what does it entail? There are various ways of testing. The two

:44:21. > :44:29.main ones, offered to practices are a finger prick testing, a point of

:44:30. > :44:36.care test, as we call it, it is similar to having your blood sugar

:44:37. > :44:39.taken for instance from a finger prick and it usually gives you an

:44:40. > :44:45.answer within minutes. An indicator of whether someone may have HIV or

:44:46. > :44:50.not. So that person would know within minutes. That would have

:44:51. > :44:55.really helped you, presumably, Alex, because you had to wait a few days

:44:56. > :45:00.which must have been difficult. It was quite terrifying. In London they

:45:01. > :45:04.were doing the rapid testing that I was living in Norwich at the time,

:45:05. > :45:09.and they weren't doing it there. So I tested on a Friday, then I moved

:45:10. > :45:12.back to London on the Saturday, I came back and started a new job

:45:13. > :45:16.there on the Monday and I got a phone call at quarter past five that

:45:17. > :45:22.the test had come back positive. I suppose, had I been in the care of a

:45:23. > :45:27.local professional at the time, it was quite a scary moment, walking

:45:28. > :45:32.down the road in central London and suddenly being told... On your

:45:33. > :45:36.mobile? Yes, unfortunately because I'd moved I couldn't go back to the

:45:37. > :45:41.clinic. It was an odd sensation, the nurse did not say, you have HIV, he

:45:42. > :45:46.said, your test is positive. I carried on walking for a couple of

:45:47. > :45:58.minutes and then thought, oh my God, what? Then everything spins out of

:45:59. > :46:01.control, everything goes out of the window, all logic. It's quite a

:46:02. > :46:03.scary moment before you realise that you are going to be all right. I was

:46:04. > :46:05.on effective treatment within a couple of weeks. And I have lived

:46:06. > :46:16.long and healthy ever since, really. As well as Alex saying it would have

:46:17. > :46:20.been easier if he was told by a health professional rather than

:46:21. > :46:26.walking down a street in London? Our study is based on data which is

:46:27. > :46:30.where HIV is very common like in most parts of London, but it shows

:46:31. > :46:34.that it is cost effective. Cost effective is different from cost

:46:35. > :46:40.saving. Cost effective just means that the balance, the balance of

:46:41. > :46:44.doing a test, so the clinical benefits of doing a test will

:46:45. > :46:50.outweigh the costs at some point. Now, we have shown that this will

:46:51. > :46:56.happen after about 33 years. That may sound very far away, but in

:46:57. > :47:06.fact, it's a public health measure which is accepted by the NHS. So,

:47:07. > :47:14.but however, I think the key here is that the offer, offering a HIV test

:47:15. > :47:18.is not or should not be based on financial considerations. It is

:47:19. > :47:21.always a clinical decision. So, implementing a screening service for

:47:22. > :47:26.instance in high prevalence areas is a clinical decision. Offering a test

:47:27. > :47:33.to someone who is unwell as a result of their HIV infection is a clinical

:47:34. > :47:42.condition. Now, what our study has shown if in addition to getting the

:47:43. > :47:48.clinical benefits you also have financial... A cost benefit further

:47:49. > :47:55.down the line. Thank you for coming in to speak to us.

:47:56. > :47:58.Some comments coming in to us about Princess Diana saying that from

:47:59. > :48:02.Chris on Facebook saying, "I think that Channel 4 should be allowed to

:48:03. > :48:06.publish the documentary. Diana maybe an icon and member of the Royal

:48:07. > :48:12.Family, but she is still a person. I'm sure many people would rather

:48:13. > :48:17.see her for who she is rather than flawless icon." Tony says, "The

:48:18. > :48:21.Diana tape should be broadcast. They were private recordings and could be

:48:22. > :48:24.hurtful to people who don't have an effective ability to respond. If

:48:25. > :48:30.they are allowed to be broadcast it shows that the callous nature of our

:48:31. > :48:36.nasty broadcasters. Stop them from being broadcast."

:48:37. > :48:39.Vladimir Putin has announced that 755 staff must leave US

:48:40. > :48:40.diplomatic missions, in retaliation for new US

:48:41. > :48:51.Our correspondent Sarah Rainsford joins us now

:48:52. > :49:00.Sarah just explain. This is a big response by Russia to the US

:49:01. > :49:04.Congress passing very tough sanctions against Russia in response

:49:05. > :49:09.for Russia's alleged meddling in the US elections and what Russia has

:49:10. > :49:13.done is announced that some 755 staff at US diplomatic missions

:49:14. > :49:18.across Russia, so that's not just Americans, we believe this is

:49:19. > :49:22.Russian local hired staff will have to seize their activities as Mr

:49:23. > :49:26.Putin put it in an interview yesterday that he gave. So some of

:49:27. > :49:30.those will be Americans who will be expelled from the country. We don't

:49:31. > :49:35.know the exact numbers yet, but many of them are Russian staff who will

:49:36. > :49:39.now lose their jobs and this is an expression of the anger and the

:49:40. > :49:42.frustration that there is here in Russia with the way that relations

:49:43. > :49:47.with America have gone under Donald Trump. I mean remember, of coffers,

:49:48. > :49:50.that Russia was hoping for something of a reset in relations, hoping for

:49:51. > :49:55.things to improve with the United States when Donald Trump came to

:49:56. > :49:58.power, but what it has seen is actually relation plummet to the

:49:59. > :50:03.lowest that they have been since the Cold War and this is the latest

:50:04. > :50:07.element of that. The removal from their posts of some 755 staff at US

:50:08. > :50:12.diplomatic missions here and people here don't think that's going to be

:50:13. > :50:16.the end of it. It is expected that there could be further measures to

:50:17. > :50:22.come. It is a fairly unpredictable situation now. Thank you, Sarah.

:50:23. > :50:26.A controversial documentary about the late Diana,

:50:27. > :50:29.Princess of Wales is to be shown on Channel 4 this weekend.

:50:30. > :50:32.It will show recordings that haven't been played in the UK before,

:50:33. > :50:34.in which she discusses her marriage, and relationship with a royal

:50:35. > :50:39.Here's a clip from the trailer for the documentary.

:50:40. > :50:45.Diana said, "Do you want a drink?" It was almost like being in a wine

:50:46. > :50:55.bar in Kensington with a friend. She said, "Do you know about Camilla

:50:56. > :51:00.Parker Bowles?" I couldn't deny that I didn't know about it. There was a

:51:01. > :51:07.hesitation, she said, "Well, she features most days, most hours and

:51:08. > :51:11.minutes of my life." I didn't really understand at that point exactly

:51:12. > :51:15.what she meant, but of course, the days that followed, the weeks that

:51:16. > :51:23.followed, the months that followed, I knew exactly what she meant by

:51:24. > :51:28.that. She sort of carried out her own research and found previous

:51:29. > :51:36.Prince of Wales' had their own mistresses.

:51:37. > :51:38.That's on Channel 4 at 8pm on Sunday.

:51:39. > :51:48.Let's talk about the controversy. Just explain why so many people are

:51:49. > :51:53.unhappy? Because of the content of these tapes and just how private

:51:54. > :51:57.they were meant to be some say. These were tapes recorded about

:51:58. > :52:03.three or four years before Princess Diana died with her voice coach.

:52:04. > :52:07.This was her learning to speak and learning to deliver her own thoughts

:52:08. > :52:12.better ahead of some of the big interviews that she gave towards the

:52:13. > :52:21.end of her life, not least the famous one with Martin Basher, the

:52:22. > :52:25.Panorama interview. She is very candid, speaking about her sex life

:52:26. > :52:30.with Prince Charles, speaking about her relations with a royal

:52:31. > :52:34.protection officer. Deeply personal material which it seems was meant to

:52:35. > :52:38.be within the confines of those coaching sessions. These were tapes

:52:39. > :52:44.later, after her death, a legal battle was fought over. Earl

:52:45. > :52:47.Spencer, her brother, said she should belong to Diana's, but they

:52:48. > :52:51.were returned to the voice coach and sold on, they have been shown in

:52:52. > :52:55.part before in America, but never in this country. Channel 4 now

:52:56. > :52:58.broadcasting ex-certs of the never seen or heard before in this

:52:59. > :53:05.country. They're defending their right to do that. This is their head

:53:06. > :53:11.of factual. There were two, I would say, key factors in deciding to air

:53:12. > :53:16.the tape. One is we can argue about when things come history. 20 years

:53:17. > :53:20.have passed by. Diana was very conscious about being filmed. She is

:53:21. > :53:23.sitting comfortably in front of the camera and was happy to be recorded

:53:24. > :53:28.by Peterment when people see that, they will see a relaxed, informal

:53:29. > :53:32.Diana, comfortable talking about her own story and they will see the

:53:33. > :53:36.process that she is going through is the one of bringing to light her

:53:37. > :53:42.story. It is not concealing her story, it is a process of about

:53:43. > :53:45.channelling her natural and her voice and using her personal

:53:46. > :53:51.experience to say inform that voice. I don't think people will find the

:53:52. > :53:55.experience of watching the tapes anything, but illuminating. Any rid

:53:56. > :54:00.action from her children? Not at this stage. But plenty from people

:54:01. > :54:05.who considered themselves close to Diana. Some of the words and

:54:06. > :54:10.expressions used are saying this is like blood money. It is very wrong

:54:11. > :54:12.that these were made public. These were deeply personal tapes that

:54:13. > :54:16.should never have seen the light of day. They are critical and calling

:54:17. > :54:22.for Channel 4 not to put it out there. Matt Cole, thank you.

:54:23. > :54:32.Let's talk to the former royal press officer. Also royal biographer,

:54:33. > :54:35.Penny Junior. We heard you are not happy about the documentary? I'm not

:54:36. > :54:38.happy and of course, Channel 4 are going to defend themselves because

:54:39. > :54:42.they have got a lot of money invested in it and with the showing

:54:43. > :54:45.of the documentary, it will be a high rated programme, high ratings

:54:46. > :54:49.means high advertising, high advertising means a lot of revenue

:54:50. > :54:53.and Channel 4 will laugh all the way to the bank. These tapes were

:54:54. > :54:58.recorded in private. They were part of a training session and anybody

:54:59. > :55:05.would tell you who is involved in media training that anything done

:55:06. > :55:08.behind closed doors remains private. I'm surprised that they didn't have

:55:09. > :55:13.the decency to hand the tapes to Diana. I have done media training

:55:14. > :55:17.time and time again, I hand the tapes to the client because it is

:55:18. > :55:20.their opportunity to watch back and listen back, to see whether they are

:55:21. > :55:25.doing right or doing wrong and to learn from it. Penny, what do you

:55:26. > :55:34.think? I agree with everything Dickie has said. It is obscene they

:55:35. > :55:38.are showing these and immoral. Diana when she made them, the marriage had

:55:39. > :55:46.come to an end. They had just broken up. She looks delightful and she is,

:55:47. > :55:50.I think, a little flirtatious with her voice coach, but fundamentally,

:55:51. > :55:59.she was extremely hurt and she was bitter and she was, she was in pain.

:56:00. > :56:03.And she started, the bulimia had come flooding back, she was not in a

:56:04. > :56:07.good place, there she was talking privately, never ever intending

:56:08. > :56:15.these tapes to be heard by other living sole. I just think it is so

:56:16. > :56:21.such exploitation and... We have heard from people getting in touch.

:56:22. > :56:24.Penny, your line crackled up. People got in touch saying today, "We loved

:56:25. > :56:29.Princess Diana. We love the fact that she wasn't completely flawless.

:56:30. > :56:32.We loved all of the vulnerabilities that normal people have and we want

:56:33. > :56:40.to see those and that's why we want to see this documentary?" She had

:56:41. > :56:45.children and do her children, I don't care what age they are? Do

:56:46. > :56:49.they really want to know how often their parents had sex? Is it

:56:50. > :56:53.anybody's business? It is not our business. All we need to know about

:56:54. > :56:58.our Royal Family is that they do their job and that they are worth

:56:59. > :57:03.the money. We do not need to pry into their private lives. This may

:57:04. > :57:08.have historical interest, but 20 years on, when her sons are youngish

:57:09. > :57:13.and when her ex-husband is alive, when the Royal Family that welcomed

:57:14. > :57:17.her into their family, and when her sisters and brother are still alive,

:57:18. > :57:21.this is not the right time. Let it wait until all these people are long

:57:22. > :57:24.gone and then let the historians perhaps pour over these tapes and

:57:25. > :57:35.make what they will of them. But this is not the right thing to be

:57:36. > :57:40.doing, for, serving up for public at this public information. Do you

:57:41. > :57:46.think this she wanted it to be recorded and wanted people to know

:57:47. > :57:49.the truth? Diana wasn't so much naive, she was incredibly vulnerable

:57:50. > :57:56.and she was prepared to talk to anybody who was prepared to listen

:57:57. > :58:00.to her. He has a knack about him to get somebody to relax and open up

:58:01. > :58:03.and this is what she did, she opened up to him. She opened up on the

:58:04. > :58:08.basis that what she was doing was private and wasn't for public

:58:09. > :58:13.consumption. Yes, by all means, release the tapes in 50, 60, 70, 100

:58:14. > :58:17.years' time when historians and researchers can pour over them, but

:58:18. > :58:22.certainly not while you have got William and Harry alive, the Royal

:58:23. > :58:28.Family, the Spencer family, it is just very hurtful and it seems to

:58:29. > :58:33.me, as I said yesterday, it's grubby blood money. We know Earl Spencer is

:58:34. > :58:36.unhappy about the prospect of this documentary on Sunday on Channel 4.

:58:37. > :58:41.How do you think, William and Harry, you mentioned them there, would

:58:42. > :58:45.respond to this? Well, William and Harry had it over the years,

:58:46. > :58:49.allegations about what their mother did, what their mother said, how

:58:50. > :58:54.their mother behaved and they have had to live with it and they toss it

:58:55. > :58:59.to one side, yes, whatever is coming out on Channel 4 is hurtful and the

:59:00. > :59:03.Spencer family will feel the same. It is unfortunate that a lot of

:59:04. > :59:09.people will make, not a lot of people, but a few people will make a

:59:10. > :59:13.lot of money and what a private recording and should remain private

:59:14. > :59:18.and it's not going to enhance anything about Diana. Yes, we knew

:59:19. > :59:23.she was vulnerable, we knew she was suffering, but that was the lady of

:59:24. > :59:30.the day. She spoke to me many times about all sorts of things. I

:59:31. > :59:35.certainly wouldn't go and blab them, why Settler is selling the tapes?

:59:36. > :59:37.Only he can answer. Now let's get the latest weather update with

:59:38. > :59:45.Carol. We are looking at sunshine and

:59:46. > :59:53.showers. That's going to be the case today. Some showers could have hail

:59:54. > :59:58.and thunder. Further south, showers will be less intense and fewer and

:59:59. > :00:01.further between and the South East may escape them. Between them all,

:00:02. > :00:05.there will be sunshine. Through this evening and overnight many of the

:00:06. > :00:11.showers will fade. We will hang to a few in the west. Temperature wise 11

:00:12. > :00:15.to 14 will be the overnight lows. Tomorrow morning, we start off with

:00:16. > :00:18.a lot of dry weather. However, it won't be long before the showers in

:00:19. > :00:22.the west develop further and again, some of those will be slow moving,

:00:23. > :00:26.heavy and thundery with hail, but not all of us will catch one. Some

:00:27. > :00:30.of us will miss them altogether having a dry day with bright or

:00:31. > :00:34.sunny skies and in the sunshine, particularly in the South East, we

:00:35. > :00:38.could hit 22 to 24 Celsius. It changes during Wednesday. After a

:00:39. > :00:42.dry and a bright start, for many parts of the UK, we've got rain and

:00:43. > :00:49.stronger winds sweeping in from the south-west.

:00:50. > :00:52.Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley, in for Victoria.

:00:53. > :00:54.The Health Secretary has admitted plans to to recruit another 21,000

:00:55. > :00:57.mental health nurses in the next four years is ambitious,

:00:58. > :01:02.and now the Royal College of Nursing is concerned.

:01:03. > :01:10.We do have concerns about the fact that, in terms of recruit, retain

:01:11. > :01:15.and retrain, how is that actually going to happen? We think these

:01:16. > :01:17.laudable ambitions but there is very little detail in the plan about how

:01:18. > :01:23.actually that be achieved. Remembering those who made

:01:24. > :01:26.the ultimate sacrifice. Tributes will be paid later to those

:01:27. > :01:29.who lost their lives at the Battle of Passchendaele -

:01:30. > :01:32.as ceremonies are held to mark the 100 year anniversary

:01:33. > :01:37.of the start of the battle. At this time 100 years ago today the

:01:38. > :01:44.Battle of Passchendaele had already begun. The offensive was under way,

:01:45. > :01:48.the first British and Commonwealth soldiers had attacked, many are

:01:49. > :01:51.fallen and are buried here at Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest

:01:52. > :01:57.Commonwealth War Cemetery in the world. And from this summer it will

:01:58. > :02:03.be harder for schools to challenge exam results so are calling upon all

:02:04. > :02:12.schools to appeal against every GCSE and A-level results seems wrong.

:02:13. > :02:14.Good morning, it's two minutes past ten.

:02:15. > :02:17.Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:18. > :02:21.workers are to be recruited by the NHS in England.

:02:22. > :02:24.The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra

:02:25. > :02:29.The Royal College of Nursing has questioned how so many staff can

:02:30. > :02:32.be hired and trained in such a short space of time.

:02:33. > :02:38.We are confident that we can get these numbers. There are people who

:02:39. > :02:42.are trained in mental health nursing, people trained as

:02:43. > :02:45.psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS. We have a

:02:46. > :02:51.programme to attract them back into the NHS. What we want to say to them

:02:52. > :02:55.is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

:02:56. > :02:57.in Europe going on at the moment, we are proud of what we are doing but

:02:58. > :03:00.we want to do a lot more. The United States says

:03:01. > :03:02.President Putin's decision to order 755 of its diplomatic staff to leave

:03:03. > :03:05.Russia is unjustified. They have been told

:03:06. > :03:07.to leave by 1st September. The move is in retaliation

:03:08. > :03:10.to new sanctions approved by the US Congress for Russia's alleged

:03:11. > :03:12.involvement in last year's presidential election

:03:13. > :03:15.and the annexation of Crimea. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:03:16. > :03:19.appears to have stepped back from a suggestion that the UK

:03:20. > :03:21.could cut taxes and regulation in a bid to undercut EU

:03:22. > :03:24.countries after Brexit. In an interview with the French

:03:25. > :03:27.newspaper, Le Monde, he says the government has no plans

:03:28. > :03:29.to make big changes to tax policy in order

:03:30. > :03:33.to attract global investment. His remarks are in sharp

:03:34. > :03:35.contrast with what he said Afghan police say there's been

:03:36. > :03:41.a suicide explosion outside Several explosions were

:03:42. > :03:49.heard and a gun battle Civilians are being

:03:50. > :03:52.moved from the area. The so-called Islamic State group

:03:53. > :03:57.has claimed responsibility. The editor of The Sunday Times has

:03:58. > :04:00.apologised for an article suggesting the BBC presenters Claudia Winkleman

:04:01. > :04:02.and Vanessa Feltz earned high The article, by the

:04:03. > :04:09.columnist Kevin Myers, was published in the newspaper's

:04:10. > :04:11.Irish edition and online and has Speaking on BBC Radio London,

:04:12. > :04:28.Ms Feltz has expressed her I could not believe that such a

:04:29. > :04:32.thing had been printed, it is gratuitous. Not cleverly done.

:04:33. > :04:38.Blatant racism, that's all, just racism. When you write something it

:04:39. > :04:41.is read by the subeditor, by the features editor, supposedly by the

:04:42. > :04:45.legal team and by the editor. I could not understand how all those

:04:46. > :04:46.layers of command had allowed something so blatantly racist to be

:04:47. > :04:52.put in the paper. One in five MPs continues to employ

:04:53. > :04:55.a member of their family using taxpayers' money

:04:56. > :04:57.despite the practice being banned Of the 589 returning MPs,

:04:58. > :05:01.122 have declared the employment of a relative in the latest Register

:05:02. > :05:04.of Members' Financial Interests. None of the 61 new MPs

:05:05. > :05:11.who secured their seats at the General Election on June 8th

:05:12. > :05:14.are allowed to do so. Campaigners say there needs to be

:05:15. > :05:17.a clear end date for all MPs. The High Court will today

:05:18. > :05:23.decide whether Tony Blair, former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

:05:24. > :05:25.and former attorney general Lord Goldsmith can be prosecuted

:05:26. > :05:29.over the 2003 Iraq War. The attempt to bring them

:05:30. > :05:32.to court was launched by a former Iraqi general

:05:33. > :05:34.Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat, who calls the invasion

:05:35. > :05:38.a "crime of aggression". Prince Charles will attend

:05:39. > :05:42.the second day of commemorations to mark the 100th anniversary

:05:43. > :05:44.of the start of the Battle soldiers were killed,

:05:45. > :05:51.wounded or went missing in action during the three months of fighting

:05:52. > :05:54.near the Belgian town of Ypres. Yesterday the Duke and Duchess

:05:55. > :05:59.of Cambridge attended a service with 200 descendents of those

:06:00. > :06:05.who fought there. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:06:06. > :06:13.News, more at 10.30. Thank you. A lot of people are

:06:14. > :06:17.getting in touch about the documentary going out at the weekend

:06:18. > :06:22.about Princess Diana. Audrey says, Princess Diana is not owned by the

:06:23. > :06:28.people. It is and dignified to put these tapes in the public arena. Her

:06:29. > :06:32.sons should take ownership of those tapes for her privacy. They don't

:06:33. > :06:36.own them, that is the problem. Another text, of course Diana

:06:37. > :06:41.talking about her private life should be shown, that was presumably

:06:42. > :06:42.the intention at the time that she participated in that film and

:06:43. > :06:43.conversation. Do get in touch with us

:06:44. > :06:45.throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:06:46. > :06:48.and If you text, you will be charged The big news, England

:06:49. > :06:55.are through to the semifinals they beat France the first time

:06:56. > :07:07.in 43 years thanks to one goal from It was her fifth goal of the

:07:08. > :07:12.tournament. Our correspondent Katie Gornall was that the game. There are

:07:13. > :07:16.a view England players training today at their base in Utrecht but

:07:17. > :07:21.most have understandably been given time to rest and recover after that

:07:22. > :07:25.historic win over France last night. It may have taken 43 years but

:07:26. > :07:30.family England have beaten their rivals. They did so with another

:07:31. > :07:35.clinical performance in front of goal. Mark Sampson was full of

:07:36. > :07:40.praise for striker Jody Taylor who's had a handful of chances but already

:07:41. > :08:00.has scored five goals. She is on course not only

:08:01. > :08:11.to win the last four on Thursday. The team will no England very well

:08:12. > :08:15.and will be desperate to prove that they are better because England beat

:08:16. > :08:20.them last time. The capacity of the stadium is 30,000, after beating

:08:21. > :08:25.France England will fear no one and nothing at this tournament! Katie

:08:26. > :08:28.Gornall reporting. Only an almighty South African defence can stop

:08:29. > :08:34.England taking a series lead on the final day of the third test. Some

:08:35. > :08:39.big hitting from England meant they set South Africa a world record

:08:40. > :08:44.chase of 490 to win. England's bowlers took four wickets before

:08:45. > :08:49.close of play, two by Ben Stokes, South Africa resumed 375 runs

:08:50. > :08:53.behind, this morning. Lewis Hamilton sacrificed three vital points in the

:08:54. > :08:57.Hungarian Grand Prix when he kept a promise to his team mate at

:08:58. > :09:00.Mercedes, Hamilton was given permission to overtake Valtteri

:09:01. > :09:04.Bottas because he thought he could catch the two leading Ferraris. When

:09:05. > :09:11.he realised he couldn't, he allowed for Teddy Bottas to pass him again

:09:12. > :09:16.to take third place. -- Valtteri Bottas. Sebastian Vettel added to

:09:17. > :09:23.his championship lead. It wasn't easy, I didn't do a favour for Kimi

:09:24. > :09:26.I didn't have the pace. I did come back a bit, a couple of laps when I

:09:27. > :09:34.could breathe a bit although I did have to stay focused the whole race.

:09:35. > :09:39.Great Britain have entered the world swimming Championships in Hungary

:09:40. > :09:44.with seven medals. After the relay team four by 100 laps took silver,

:09:45. > :09:49.Adam Peaty dragged them into contention with a stunning lack, and

:09:50. > :09:57.they finished second to the USA. It's the third medal of the week

:09:58. > :10:00.Adam Peaty. -- he's won a stunning laptop Mac. Now back to you, Chloe.

:10:01. > :10:11.Thank you, Kat. It was one of the bloodiest battles

:10:12. > :10:21.of the Second World War. Conditions were so appalling that many drowned

:10:22. > :10:28.to death in mud. Before we go live to my colleague in Belgium this is a

:10:29. > :10:29.short film about what happened. -- one of the bloodiest battles of the

:10:30. > :12:18.First World War. Ben Brown is live at Tyne Cot

:12:19. > :12:21.Cemetery in Belgium. 100 years ago today, the Battle of Passchendaele

:12:22. > :12:25.was raging. It had begun in the early hours of the morning. The

:12:26. > :12:30.first British and Commonwealth troops had gone over the top. The

:12:31. > :12:34.first had fallen as well. Many of those who would die in the coming

:12:35. > :12:38.three months of the Battle of Passchendaele are buried here at the

:12:39. > :12:41.Tyne Cot Cemetery, the biggest Commonwealth war cemetery in the

:12:42. > :12:46.world. Later today Prince Charles and the Duke and Duchess of

:12:47. > :13:07.Cambridge will attend a special commemorative service. It was,

:13:08. > :13:11.as you have seen, a battle where British and Allied troops face not

:13:12. > :13:14.only German machine guns but also mud, many drowning in the sea of mud

:13:15. > :13:16.that the battlefield became, and mustard gas as well. Let's speak to

:13:17. > :13:18.the former England rugby captain Lewis Moody who has a special

:13:19. > :13:20.interest in the battle of Passchendaele. Tel us how you got

:13:21. > :13:22.interested. From my namesake, my great-grandfather's involvement

:13:23. > :13:25.coming over with the British expeditionary forces. I was here

:13:26. > :13:29.researching him and his regiment, the Royal Sussex when I got a text

:13:30. > :13:35.from my mother saying, we have a relative who is commemorative at

:13:36. > :13:40.Tyne Cot. I happened to be there at the time and could go and Tracy 's

:13:41. > :13:46.footsteps. He died on November six, at the tail end of the battle,

:13:47. > :13:51.having been through the Somme, almost making it through

:13:52. > :13:58.Passchendaele. He is commemorated on the wall at men in gate. Your

:13:59. > :14:01.mother's great uncle. When you come here what does it make you feel

:14:02. > :14:06.about the man who made such sacrifices 100 years ago. It's

:14:07. > :14:11.difficult to describe. When you come the doors, especially at Tyne Cot,

:14:12. > :14:18.the brutality, the blood and sacrifice that happened is now

:14:19. > :14:25.replaced with BT, serenity and calm. It's very moving. I broke down in

:14:26. > :14:30.tears one I found the place. It's so important to remember that not only

:14:31. > :14:36.our relatives but former rugby internationals who died there on

:14:37. > :14:40.this day, Arthur Wilson, Edgar Mobbs and other international players.

:14:41. > :14:44.It's important for me to be here and remember. Can you imagine what it

:14:45. > :14:47.would have been like to fight? From all that you have researched about

:14:48. > :14:52.the battle, give a picture of what it would be like because these

:14:53. > :14:59.fields are now so beautiful, serene and green, it was a morass of mud,

:15:00. > :15:02.the worst rains the 30 years. When you see the old pictures and now you

:15:03. > :15:08.see the beautiful trees, it was a wasteland with mud everywhere, to

:15:09. > :15:12.see what they went through, and Edgar Mobbs, and Northamptonshire

:15:13. > :15:17.man, and England international, he was refused entry into the army so

:15:18. > :15:23.he formed his own battalion with 240 men. They let him join and he died

:15:24. > :15:26.this year 100 years ago, as a Lieutenant Colonel because his

:15:27. > :15:31.battalion's advance was stored. He climbed out of the trench, his

:15:32. > :15:35.Second Lieutenant tried to pull him back in but he took it on

:15:36. > :15:43.single-handedly with a grenade and was sadly killed and his name is on

:15:44. > :15:46.the Menin Gate. The difficulties they had, the bunkers are still

:15:47. > :15:48.here, the German ones come across is placed on them as well, it shows you

:15:49. > :15:58.how difficult it must have been. We talk about the hell and the

:15:59. > :16:02.horror of Passchendaele, some joined up at the age of 15. They just

:16:03. > :16:08.wanted to be out here. I don't think you can put it into words or

:16:09. > :16:13.comprehend it now. You think of your kids joining up at 15 and being out

:16:14. > :16:17.here and some of those commemorated are 15, but how wide it was as well.

:16:18. > :16:20.From all corners of the earth people came and fought on this piece of

:16:21. > :16:24.land and died on this piece of land and the vast scale of the sacrifice

:16:25. > :16:29.when you walk through here is what really makes it important for me to

:16:30. > :16:33.try and pass it on to my children and the medals that I have from the

:16:34. > :16:39.various different sides of my family in the First World War and Earnest's

:16:40. > :16:43.involvement at Passchendaele, hopefully 80 or 90 years from now

:16:44. > :16:49.they are passing it on to their children as well. Lewis Moody there,

:16:50. > :16:54.former England rugby captain whose mother's great-uncle died in the

:16:55. > :16:59.Battle of Passchendaele. That's the latest from here.

:17:00. > :17:02.The High Court will make a ruling today on whether a former

:17:03. > :17:04.chief-of-staff of the Iraqi army can bring a private prosecution against

:17:05. > :17:08.Our legal correspondent Clive Coleman is at

:17:09. > :17:17.Tell us more about this case and who is bringing it and what it is about?

:17:18. > :17:22.He tried to bring it at Westminster Magistrates' Court last year. He was

:17:23. > :17:27.unsuccessful. The court ruled basically that Tony Blair, the

:17:28. > :17:31.former Prime Minister, the former Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw and

:17:32. > :17:35.Lord Goldsmith had implied immunity from prosecution because of their

:17:36. > :17:41.former Government roles, but the court also ruled that the crime that

:17:42. > :17:46.the general, his name is Abdul Wahed Shannan Al Rabbat. He is a former

:17:47. > :17:50.Chief-of-Staff of the Iraqi army. But the crime he was trying to have

:17:51. > :17:55.them prosecuted for is the crime of aggression. In other words, waging

:17:56. > :17:59.an aggressive war in breach of the United Nations charter, but the

:18:00. > :18:04.court back last year ruled that the crime of aggression was not a crime

:18:05. > :18:07.in our domestic English law. These proceedings at the High Court are in

:18:08. > :18:13.an appeal against that decision. Now, what was argued on the

:18:14. > :18:20.General's behalf was that the crime of aggression was wrapped and had

:18:21. > :18:22.been in our domestic law and when the former Nazi leaders were

:18:23. > :18:26.prosecuted after the Second World War, it was done on the basis that

:18:27. > :18:33.the crime of aggression was part of our UK law. However, critically,

:18:34. > :18:37.there was a ruling in 2006 that the fore runners of the spraol court,

:18:38. > :18:42.that crime, the crime of aggression does not apply in UK law. It didn't

:18:43. > :18:45.form part of UK law and Parliament would have to pass an acof

:18:46. > :18:50.Parliament to make it part of UK law. So, today we will get a ruling.

:18:51. > :18:53.If the general is successful, then the matter would go back to the

:18:54. > :18:58.Supreme Court and they would have to consider whether that decision back

:18:59. > :19:02.in 2006, which said that the crime of aggression doesn't apply in our

:19:03. > :19:06.law was correct or not. Many commentators think it is a high bar

:19:07. > :19:09.for the general to pass. It is unlikely that the court will rule in

:19:10. > :19:14.his favour, but we'll find out whether they have done in a matter

:19:15. > :19:19.of minutes from now. So, I will come back on and tell you what happened.

:19:20. > :19:22.I want to ask you the implications of this. Give us a wider sense of

:19:23. > :19:28.the significance of this kind of action? Well, I mean, if it is

:19:29. > :19:32.established that a crime of aggression is a crime that can be

:19:33. > :19:35.prosecuted under our law it means that our political leaders, if they

:19:36. > :19:39.take the country into the war and they do so unlawfully, and in breach

:19:40. > :19:43.of the United Nations charter, it means that they can be held

:19:44. > :19:48.responsible and prosecuted in a British court for the crime of

:19:49. > :19:53.aggression. So, it is a very, very significant ruling. At the moment

:19:54. > :19:58.they have it this implied immunity from prosecution, but if the law

:19:59. > :20:02.changes on that, that's a very, very major step and huge ramifications

:20:03. > :20:07.for those critical and very important vital decisions for the

:20:08. > :20:09.nation where if the law changed our political leaders could be held

:20:10. > :20:15.responsible in the criminal courts. That would be a major change. Clive,

:20:16. > :20:17.we will come back to you, as and when you have an update for us from

:20:18. > :20:20.the High Court. It's several years since

:20:21. > :20:23.the Government pledged to put mental health provision on an equal footing

:20:24. > :20:25.with other health services, but many patients still struggle

:20:26. > :20:28.to access the services they need. It's a problem we've covered

:20:29. > :20:30.extensively on this programme. So will plans to recruit more

:20:31. > :20:33.than 20,000 extra mental health The plans involve increasing

:20:34. > :20:36.the number of trained nurses, therapists, psychiatrists and other

:20:37. > :20:38.mental health professionals by 2021. Earlier, The Health Secretary Jeremy

:20:39. > :20:42.Hunt explained the numbers to Naga Munchetty on BBC Breakfast

:20:43. > :20:45.and said nurses have He said that nurses have never

:20:46. > :20:57.worked harder. The 21,000 number

:20:58. > :20:59.is for posts overall. That isn't just nurses,

:21:00. > :21:00.that is psychiatrists, that is therapists who help people

:21:01. > :21:03.with conditions like depression and anxiety, and nurses,

:21:04. > :21:05.and people working in different But nurses are a very,

:21:06. > :21:10.very important part of it, and we are confident that we can

:21:11. > :21:14.get these numbers. There are people who are trained

:21:15. > :21:16.in mental health nursing, people who are trained

:21:17. > :21:18.as psychiatrists who are not currently working in the NHS,

:21:19. > :21:21.and we have a programme to attract And what we want to say to them

:21:22. > :21:30.is that we probably have the biggest expansion in mental health provision

:21:31. > :21:33.in Europe going on at the moment. We're proud of what we're doing,

:21:34. > :21:41.but we want to do a lot more. We still have too many people

:21:42. > :21:44.in this country who, where a young life is blighted, because we're not

:21:45. > :21:47.getting them the mental health care There are too many older people

:21:48. > :21:54.who are living in isolation and suffering and depression

:21:55. > :21:57.and they think it is automatic and This is a very important issue,

:21:58. > :22:01.I don't think anyone would deny that, and when it is such

:22:02. > :22:04.an important issue, I wonder how you think you're going to recruit

:22:05. > :22:07.nurses when there is a 1% pay cap, when it seems that all you're

:22:08. > :22:10.going to be doing is, what, placing advertisements for a job

:22:11. > :22:13.which many think is underpaid, low-paid, and your pay rise

:22:14. > :22:16.is going to be less than inflation, so you're actually earning less

:22:17. > :22:18.money each year doing a job It is a very tough job,

:22:19. > :22:24.and I would say that nurses on the front-line have

:22:25. > :22:26.never worked harder. But we are expanding

:22:27. > :22:27.the nursing workforce. We have nearly 6,000 more

:22:28. > :22:30.nurses on the front line One of the reasons that we have been

:22:31. > :22:38.able to expand the workforce to date is because with a limited budget

:22:39. > :22:41.and very difficult economic situation, we have

:22:42. > :23:23.shown pay discipline. Earlier we spoke to Mandy Stevens

:23:24. > :23:26.and Paul Farmer from MIND and Stephanie from the Royal College of

:23:27. > :23:30.Nursing. We would welcome it. Anything that addresses the issues

:23:31. > :23:34.that we have got around parity of he is seem around mental health is

:23:35. > :23:39.important. In terms of recruit, retain and retrain that how is that

:23:40. > :23:41.actually going to happen? So we think they're laudable ambition, but

:23:42. > :23:46.there is very little detail in the plan about how that's going to be

:23:47. > :23:49.achieved. So to deliver the number of staff, that Jeremy Hunt is

:23:50. > :23:52.talking about, when would these people need to start their training?

:23:53. > :23:56.How quickly would you need to get people? If you're looking at

:23:57. > :24:02.recruiting into post for 2020, they need to be recruited interest this

:24:03. > :24:04.September. And with the changes in student funding at pre-registration

:24:05. > :24:08.level then there are real challenges around that. We know currently that

:24:09. > :24:12.it is less attractive and the numbers are down for recruitment for

:24:13. > :24:18.September. I think the challenge is at the moment we have a huge amount

:24:19. > :24:21.of inconsistency in terms of what people experience locally on the

:24:22. > :24:25.ground and often that's because of the very huge variety of staff

:24:26. > :24:29.availability and staff capability as well. So and we have never had a

:24:30. > :24:33.plan for mental health staff before. So this is the first time that we

:24:34. > :24:38.are seeing those kinds of elements coming into play. But it's a big

:24:39. > :24:48.challenge to get there over the next four to five years. What do you

:24:49. > :24:51.think needs to change and to retain them? There is a lot of stigma

:24:52. > :24:56.around mental health. There is something about, I would support any

:24:57. > :24:59.campaign that actually really makes clear what the value contribution

:25:00. > :25:01.people who work with those with mental health in a range of

:25:02. > :25:06.different roles, but particularly for us in nursing. Actually add in

:25:07. > :25:10.terms of that. There is huge job satisfaction. But job satisfaction

:25:11. > :25:15.isn't enough. People also need recognition and they need to be able

:25:16. > :25:17.to actually feel that they are able to support themselves and their

:25:18. > :25:22.families and loved ones in the role that they are and actually, we have

:25:23. > :25:28.seen that the pay has actually, the value of your pay has gone down for

:25:29. > :25:35.nurse over the years and that's why we have launched our Scrap The Cut

:25:36. > :25:39.Campaign. People need recognition. I wonder do you think this is going to

:25:40. > :25:43.put mental health services on a par with physical services for example?

:25:44. > :25:47.Well, we really welcome the plan and I think it is going to go a long way

:25:48. > :25:51.to support and engage a forward movement, but I think there is still

:25:52. > :25:55.a long way to go. It's great in the document they are talking about, I

:25:56. > :26:01.think it is 5,000 staff coming into crisis services. So when people are

:26:02. > :26:04.desperate and really need urgent care, there is somebody immediately

:26:05. > :26:08.available. It doesn't happen now, does it in into it does, but it's

:26:09. > :26:12.patchy across the country. So again my experience was great, but it is

:26:13. > :26:15.not everywhere. And where you have long waiting lists and things, but

:26:16. > :26:19.the most important thing with all health care is to support people to

:26:20. > :26:24.stay well and safe at home in the community. So putting all the

:26:25. > :26:27.resources into preventative mental health care and community services

:26:28. > :26:30.to keep people safe and well which will then prevent people getting

:26:31. > :26:37.more unwell and needing to come into hospital for example. So, I'm

:26:38. > :26:41.hopeful that through counselling therapy, support services, community

:26:42. > :26:44.psychiatric nurses and in liaison with the voluntary sector we can

:26:45. > :26:48.support people to stay well at home because then it's better for the

:26:49. > :26:52.people, better for the families and better for our communities and it's

:26:53. > :26:54.also a lot cheaper than coming into hospital and using expensive

:26:55. > :27:00.resource and it's just very traumatic.

:27:01. > :27:05.Let's speak to the Shadow Mental Health Minister Barbara Keeley.

:27:06. > :27:11.Would you recognise what we heard from many people that this is a good

:27:12. > :27:15.start? Well, of course, it is good to have an ambition to increase

:27:16. > :27:19.dramatically the number of staff working in mental health services

:27:20. > :27:22.and particularly in crisis services because the very recent report the

:27:23. > :27:26.Care Quality Commission pointed out that staffing was the key issue

:27:27. > :27:31.causing a problem with patient safety and we know that it's very

:27:32. > :27:36.difficult to get access to things like eating disorder services, it's

:27:37. > :27:39.very difficult for people with children and mental health for them

:27:40. > :27:42.to get access to the treatment they need. Of course, it's welcome, but

:27:43. > :27:46.let's be realistic, that's what we are saying this morning, let's be

:27:47. > :27:49.realistic. It takes time to train a nurse and there is a big workforce

:27:50. > :27:53.recruitment crisis at the moment because of the pay and morale and

:27:54. > :28:00.conditions issue that you've just heard about. But as we heard from

:28:01. > :28:04.the gentleman Paul Farmer from the charity MIND there has never been a

:28:05. > :28:07.plan before and there is, he said, there has never been a plan so you

:28:08. > :28:11.have to start somewhere and at least now it is being recognised and there

:28:12. > :28:14.is an attempt to put mental health services on a par with physical

:28:15. > :28:18.health services? I always feel that we are a long way from that. So

:28:19. > :28:23.that's always a strange way to talk about it. I mean, clearly, you are

:28:24. > :28:26.not in a situation when I talked about children and young people, 23%

:28:27. > :28:29.of children and young people are referred by their GP for trelt get

:28:30. > :28:32.turned away. That doesn't happen with physical health and it is part

:28:33. > :28:35.of the problem that we've got in the lack of parity between the two, but

:28:36. > :28:40.that's not the most important thing. The most important thing is we get

:28:41. > :28:43.the staffing levels up. That we get the service levels up and we improve

:28:44. > :28:49.access and for that really the funding has to be sorted out and

:28:50. > :28:53.people have been questioning this morning whether this ?1 billion part

:28:54. > :28:57.funding can go anywhere meeting the targets of thousands of staff? I

:28:58. > :29:03.don't argue with the numbers in any way, shape or form, apart from the

:29:04. > :29:07.fact that the 4600 extra mental health nurses would not even take us

:29:08. > :29:11.back to where we were in 2010, but it takes 13 years to train a

:29:12. > :29:17.psychiatrist. So let's be realistic about where we can be by 2020

:29:18. > :29:22.#2021. We heard there are maeb people who are trained to decided to

:29:23. > :29:28.leave the profession or haven't been able to get paid jobs. One lady said

:29:29. > :29:32.she trained many counsellors and they couldn't get paid jobs. If

:29:33. > :29:36.those people can be pooled together and you can bring in the people who

:29:37. > :29:40.have been trained, they would be ready to go now? Yes, they would.

:29:41. > :29:45.The other thing I would like to see Jeremy Hunt announcing when he talks

:29:46. > :29:47.about funding, any extra funding for mental health he talks about

:29:48. > :29:53.ring-fencing because we have seen attempts by the Government to put

:29:54. > :29:56.extra funding into mental health services and NHS bodies siphon the

:29:57. > :30:00.money off and use it for other things. We have had this loss of

:30:01. > :30:03.mental health nurses so we've got crisis problems and problems on

:30:04. > :30:06.wards, we've got problems with community resources. The very

:30:07. > :30:09.community resources which can be so valuable. So we're not into early

:30:10. > :30:13.intervention and prevention because those resources have been cut back

:30:14. > :30:17.and the voluntary sector has been cut back worse than any other part

:30:18. > :30:23.of this sector at the moment. So, those things need to be addressed. I

:30:24. > :30:29.would really like to see the Government ring-fence funding for

:30:30. > :30:38.mental health. Thank you very much for speaking to us.

:30:39. > :30:42.The change that's going to make it harder to appeal against GCSE

:30:43. > :30:47.We ask the chief regulator of exams why the change is being made.

:30:48. > :30:51.Prince Charles will attend a special ceremony being held later,

:30:52. > :30:54.to mark the 100-year anniversary of the start of the Battle

:30:55. > :30:56.of Passchendale, one of the bloodiest battles

:30:57. > :31:05.Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:31:06. > :31:08.Thousands of extra mental health workers are to be recruited

:31:09. > :31:14.Jeremy Hunt, said the aim is to treat an extra one million

:31:15. > :31:18.The Royal College of Nursing has questioned how so many staff can be

:31:19. > :31:20.hired and trained in such a short space of time.

:31:21. > :31:24.The United States says President Putin's decision to order

:31:25. > :31:28.755 of its diplomatic staff to leave Russia is unjustified.

:31:29. > :31:34.They have been told to leave by 1st September.

:31:35. > :31:37.The move is in retaliation to new sanctions approved by the US

:31:38. > :31:39.Congress for Russia's alleged involvement in last year's

:31:40. > :31:42.presidential election and the annexation of Crimea.

:31:43. > :31:46.The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, appears to have stepped back

:31:47. > :31:49.from a suggestion that the UK could cut taxes and regulation

:31:50. > :31:52.in a bid to undercut EU countries after Brexit.

:31:53. > :31:54.In an interview with the French newspaper, Le Monde,

:31:55. > :31:58.he says the government has no plans to make big changes

:31:59. > :32:01.to tax policy in order to attract global investment.

:32:02. > :32:03.His remarks are in sharp contrast with what he said

:32:04. > :32:10.Afghan police say there's been a suicide explosion outside

:32:11. > :32:15.Several explosions were heard and a gun battle

:32:16. > :32:18.Civilians are being moved from the area.

:32:19. > :32:28.The so-called Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.

:32:29. > :32:35.Breaking news, the High Court has blocked a bid to bring a private

:32:36. > :32:39.prosecution against Tony Blair, former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

:32:40. > :32:42.and former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith over the 2003 Iraq war.

:32:43. > :32:44.The attempt to bring them to court was launched

:32:45. > :32:46.by a former Iraqi general Abdul-waheed al-Rabbat,

:32:47. > :32:55.who calls the invasion a "crime of aggression".

:32:56. > :33:06.Here's some sport now with Kat Downes.

:33:07. > :33:13.England need six more wickets to take a lead in the Test series

:33:14. > :33:18.against South Africa, South Africa are 375 runs behind.

:33:19. > :33:20.England are through to the semifinals of the women's Euros,

:33:21. > :33:23.they beat France the first time in 43 years thanks to one goal from

:33:24. > :33:32.They face a host nation the Netherlands in the final.

:33:33. > :33:34.Lewis Hamilton sacrificed three vital points in the

:33:35. > :33:37.Hungarian Grand Prix when he kept a promise to his team mate at

:33:38. > :33:39.Mercedes, Hamilton was given permission to overtake Valtteri

:33:40. > :33:42.Bottas because he thought he could catch the two leading Ferraris.

:33:43. > :33:44.When he realised he couldn't, he allowed

:33:45. > :33:46.for Teddy Bottas to pass him again to take third place.

:33:47. > :33:49.Great Britain have entered the world swimming Championships in Hungary

:33:50. > :33:52.After the relay team four by 100 laps took silver,

:33:53. > :33:54.Adam Peaty dragged them into contention

:33:55. > :33:55.with a stunning lap and

:33:56. > :34:02.Adam Peaty already had two gold medals to his name.

:34:03. > :34:09.One of the highest paid footballers in the world, Cristiano Ronaldo, is

:34:10. > :34:14.in court today accused of tax Ford. He is accused of defrauding the

:34:15. > :34:18.authorities of the equivalent of ?30 million. Richard Conway is there.

:34:19. > :34:25.What exactly is Ronaldo accused of doing, Richard? Cristiano Ronaldo,

:34:26. > :34:28.I'm at the Court has just north of Madrid and he's inside giving

:34:29. > :34:32.evidence to a judge in a pre-trial hearing. He is accused of

:34:33. > :34:39.withholding information about his income, about keeping some of that

:34:40. > :34:44.income offshore in a shell company outside Spain and not declaring a

:34:45. > :34:48.large amount of money, several millions of pounds, relating to his

:34:49. > :34:53.image rights. He has said, my conscience is clear. It's very busy

:34:54. > :34:58.here. I'm going to get the camera to move around to show you the level of

:34:59. > :35:03.interest. There are maybe 40 TV cameras here from all around the

:35:04. > :35:07.world, 120 journalists in all. Ronaldo didn't arrive through the

:35:08. > :35:13.front entrance as we thought, he's gone into a side door but within the

:35:14. > :35:18.next hour or so he will appear on the courtroom steps behind me to

:35:19. > :35:23.address the world's media and we are expecting a defiant mood. He is

:35:24. > :35:27.clearly angry about this, at one stage he threatened to leave Real

:35:28. > :35:34.Madrid and Spain and move overseas, such was his anger about these

:35:35. > :35:37.charges. Perhaps we will cure more from him, protesting his innocence

:35:38. > :35:41.when he will appear shortly to address the media and explain how he

:35:42. > :35:44.feels about this case. Thank you, Richard. I am sure we will head back

:35:45. > :35:50.when you have more news for us. Now, waiting for GCSE and A level

:35:51. > :35:52.results is bad enough without the worry that the marks

:35:53. > :35:55.might not be accurate. Every year thousands of grades

:35:56. > :35:57.are challenged and many of them Because you have to pay to lodge

:35:58. > :36:01.an appeal, it's generally private schools who are more likely

:36:02. > :36:03.to challenge results. From this summer the exams regulator

:36:04. > :36:06.Ofqual is tightening up the rules for appeals,

:36:07. > :36:08.partly to stop more wealthy pupils getting their grades improved,

:36:09. > :36:12.simply because their schools But is the regulator doing enough

:36:13. > :36:16.to make sure the grades Let's talk now to Michelle Meadows,

:36:17. > :36:20.Director for Strategy, Risk and Research from the chief

:36:21. > :36:23.regulator of exams, Ofqual. Jack Lane had one of his A-Level

:36:24. > :36:27.exam papers wrongly marked. If it hadn't been for the fact

:36:28. > :36:31.he had an unconditional offer from his university,

:36:32. > :36:35.it could have cost him his place. Mike Buchanan is headmaster

:36:36. > :36:37.at Ashford School, which is And Kim Knappett, teacher

:36:38. > :36:44.at a comprehensive in South London and a member

:36:45. > :36:46.of the ATL Union, that's the Association

:36:47. > :36:57.of Teachers and Lecturers. Thank you all for coming in. Jack,

:36:58. > :37:01.what happened to you. I had an English paper re-marked three years

:37:02. > :37:10.ago. Luckily I've been to university, I have done it all!

:37:11. > :37:15.Started on a D, moved up to a B, a 21 points disparity. By wrote an

:37:16. > :37:19.open letter saying I think it was appalling that that's disparity

:37:20. > :37:24.could exist, -- wrote a letter. Had I not been able to afford the

:37:25. > :37:32.re-marking I would have been this intensive dis- incentivised from

:37:33. > :37:37.getting the Mark I deserved. You had to pay ?50? May be about ?40 at the

:37:38. > :37:42.time. How long did it take for the second mark to come through. Just a

:37:43. > :37:46.couple of weeks although too late for a university place if that had

:37:47. > :37:50.not happened. I know some universities differ, when they take

:37:51. > :37:53.their offers but it's more about accommodation, how do you apply for

:37:54. > :37:58.everything surrounding the university when your place can be up

:37:59. > :38:02.north, down south, when it differs so much for each individual student.

:38:03. > :38:08.I think it affects you much more than just which university you will

:38:09. > :38:12.go to. Kim, how common is this kind of story? It comes and goes in

:38:13. > :38:16.waves. I am from a state school and we have to make a very difficult

:38:17. > :38:28.choice about whether we ask for any re-marking. Many schools are in

:38:29. > :38:34.deficit, with their budget, and of course we have all the changes to

:38:35. > :38:39.the GCS E but with the new 1- man marking for English and maths so

:38:40. > :38:48.students are not confident about what they should be getting that

:38:49. > :38:52.1-9. We don't know if we should be asking for re-marks. Mike, do have

:38:53. > :39:02.this a lot at your private school. Two put it in context almost 70,000

:39:03. > :39:05.changes resulted in greater changes. 90 or 70,000 individuals or

:39:06. > :39:10.potential individuals who haven't got the right grades. That can't be

:39:11. > :39:18.acceptable and I see it in my school every year. And across the schools

:39:19. > :39:24.that I represent as chair at a head teachers conference, youngsters are

:39:25. > :39:26.missing out on university places, jobs, sixth form places, because we

:39:27. > :39:34.don't have a system that does the job right. If any student at your

:39:35. > :39:40.school is not happy would you automatically go for a re-mark? We

:39:41. > :39:44.would not. We would look if it was a realistic disparity from our view

:39:45. > :39:48.and the evidence we have about their ability and the mark. And that is

:39:49. > :39:53.the case that was referred to in the Sunday Times article, where, you

:39:54. > :40:00.know, students were getting great way out off-line with what would be

:40:01. > :40:06.reasonable to expect of them and compared to their other subjects. It

:40:07. > :40:12.took nine months to resolve. That can't be acceptable. Michelle,

:40:13. > :40:19.respond. 70,000 exam grades changing last summer, surely that can't be

:40:20. > :40:22.right. Errors such as the one that Jack experienced are clearly not

:40:23. > :40:29.acceptable but we must put them in context. Each year, around 8 million

:40:30. > :40:37.qualification grades are awarded. GCSEs and A-levels. We have

:40:38. > :40:43.safeguards in place that if teachers believe there to be an error in the

:40:44. > :40:47.marking, they can go for a review of that marking. And even then, if they

:40:48. > :40:52.are not happy following the review of the marking, there's an appeals

:40:53. > :40:59.process as well. At the end of all of those checks and balances, less

:41:00. > :41:04.than 1% of all grades actually change through the process. But this

:41:05. > :41:08.is such a critical time, if you are sitting GCSEs or A-levels this is

:41:09. > :41:13.your whole future ahead of you. I'm fascinated. Who mocks the paper

:41:14. > :41:25.committees and teachers? I don't think many people know. 34,000

:41:26. > :41:33.examiners are involved and the vast majority of them are teachers. Do

:41:34. > :41:37.they get paid by paper. Varane four examples and they have different

:41:38. > :41:40.ways of Pagan. Sometimes it can be by entire paper and sometimes by

:41:41. > :41:44.individual questions. You would worry about that because if you are

:41:45. > :41:49.in front of a computer screen because I guess that is the way they

:41:50. > :41:55.market rather than a physical paper? The vast majority of marking is done

:41:56. > :42:00.in that way. If you know you are being paid per paper you are going

:42:01. > :42:09.to make mistakes. You will think, if I get this one I make more money.

:42:10. > :42:14.The systems have vastly improved partly because now there is an man

:42:15. > :42:20.marking. As to just sign up to mark first they are trained in marking,

:42:21. > :42:25.before they are allowed to mark them as to do a test if you like of some

:42:26. > :42:30.scripts and marking to make sure they are applying the marks

:42:31. > :42:36.correctly. Once they have done that they were be released on to live

:42:37. > :42:45.marking. This quality assurance is happening all the time so questions

:42:46. > :42:48.come up by senior examiners that have a definitive mark that we know

:42:49. > :42:53.the right mark for and if markers don't mark accurately according to

:42:54. > :43:04.that definitive mark and they are retrained. And yet nearly 20% of

:43:05. > :43:08.those inquiries were changed, that's 70,000 changes a year, Michelle is

:43:09. > :43:14.quite rightly talking about the robustness of the system, we are

:43:15. > :43:18.talking about two different things, a system and individuals. And I am

:43:19. > :43:21.interested in having reliable results for the individuals, and

:43:22. > :43:28.where there are mistakes, making sure they are put right quickly and

:43:29. > :43:35.without fuss and without cost. Because not all my parents but some

:43:36. > :43:40.of them can afford to have those re-marks yet most cannot. If they

:43:41. > :43:45.can afford private school fees they can probably afford ?40 for the

:43:46. > :43:53.future of their children. That's an assumption. But it is true, not like

:43:54. > :43:57.some parents who have to have free school meals, I have heard that some

:43:58. > :44:02.teachers mark one way and others not another and there is an area of the

:44:03. > :44:07.change, surely that cannot be right. Surely if you are marking a paper

:44:08. > :44:15.that is 68, or 81, a set mark that everyone must get. The kind of marks

:44:16. > :44:20.we have in this country especially for English literature, that often

:44:21. > :44:23.essay responses and they will sometimes be differences of opinion

:44:24. > :44:28.between different teachers looking at the quality of the work. Some of

:44:29. > :44:30.these differences of opinion are quite legitimate and some of them

:44:31. > :44:40.are errors. And it's incredibly important that the safeguard, if an

:44:41. > :44:45.error has been made and the review is done that errors are corrected no

:44:46. > :44:50.matter how small. But we don't want to see is one legitimate mark being

:44:51. > :44:55.changed for another legitimate mark. What we had under the old system of

:44:56. > :44:59.reviews... How can they be two legitimate marks are the same paper,

:45:00. > :45:03.I don't understand. Surely if you are working hard you want to know

:45:04. > :45:07.there is one mark and you don't want one person who might give you 68 and

:45:08. > :45:14.another person might give you 73 for the same paper, that isn't fair.

:45:15. > :45:18.Sorry. Going to support Michelle, in some subjects that are a range of

:45:19. > :45:23.marks which are quite legitimate. The difficulty is, the system has

:45:24. > :45:27.hard boundaries. And those hard boundaries are working with what I

:45:28. > :45:32.would describe as soggy marking. It doesn't mean it is incorrect

:45:33. > :45:35.marking, just that it is variable. In most other circumstances, if I am

:45:36. > :45:41.an engineer I work to a particular tolerance and it is way below 20%,

:45:42. > :45:49.it might be 1-5% tolerance and the system doesn't suit that. I am a

:45:50. > :45:54.science teacher and a lot of the answers in science are right or

:45:55. > :45:57.wrong but we have encouraged and done lot more with longer answers

:45:58. > :46:02.and it is very easy for a long answer that is worth six marks to be

:46:03. > :46:08.given three marks or five marks. And that can so easily be the difference

:46:09. > :46:13.between a grade and where everything at GCSE in particular is about the

:46:14. > :46:18.magic C or about the magic four or five that is what is difficult for

:46:19. > :46:23.the student Dexter. It's not always about whether it is one or two

:46:24. > :46:30.marks, it is about the grade and what you will have fewer feature.

:46:31. > :46:39.Lewis tweeted, "Examineners do make mistakes." Another viewer says, "On

:46:40. > :46:44.my brother's A-level exam, the examener missed out a 16 mark

:46:45. > :46:49.question. It took four weeks for the remark to come back meaning he lost

:46:50. > :47:00.his place at Bristol University." Another viewer said I had an A and

:47:01. > :47:04.it was markeds a B. I'm sure it was meant to be a B. Public schools do

:47:05. > :47:10.remarks on block because they can afford it. Joshua says, "Teachers

:47:11. > :47:14.are paid to mark papers and they should mark them correctly and

:47:15. > :47:20.accurately. Results day is stressful enough." You are nodding. I'm sure

:47:21. > :47:24.the marking does differ, but I have had cases reported to me and my own

:47:25. > :47:28.personal experience was a 21 mark difference. Luckily, it wasn't going

:47:29. > :47:32.to affect my place at university, but if we're going to continue to be

:47:33. > :47:38.classified as students in a system that's going to grade us from E to A

:47:39. > :47:42.star whatever body is responsible of giving us the marks needs to be held

:47:43. > :47:46.to a higher standard because 21 marks to me, didn't make a

:47:47. > :47:52.difference. To my friend, 40 marks made a difference. Other people

:47:53. > :47:55.reporting all over the country with these massive grade differences, two

:47:56. > :47:59.or three marks, four or five marks, I'm sure we can understand and

:48:00. > :48:08.forgive when it comes back and you say oh, actually you did deserve the

:48:09. > :48:12.A, it was a higher A, but you still deserved the A, it impacts not just

:48:13. > :48:15.people going to university, but people applying for apprentice Shis

:48:16. > :48:19.and it is going to atected them for the rest of their lives. Is the

:48:20. > :48:22.problem been that too many private schools have been going for the

:48:23. > :48:26.remark and if you look at the remarks, if you are within a

:48:27. > :48:31.boundary often those marks go up? So it means that people who can afford

:48:32. > :48:35.it, benefit by getting a second bite of the cherry if you likes? I refute

:48:36. > :48:39.the idea that lots of schools who can afford it put in block remarks.

:48:40. > :48:45.They can't do that because they have to have the agreement of the

:48:46. > :48:48.individual candidates in any case and there are more strenuous tests

:48:49. > :48:52.for remarks. The issue is a financial one. In what other public

:48:53. > :48:58.service does it cost you to complain about something? I can't think of

:48:59. > :49:01.any. A brief response. It is important that teachers and students

:49:02. > :49:07.appreciate that if a grade changes through the remarking process they

:49:08. > :49:12.will not be charged. So, if they are certain there is a mistake, I would

:49:13. > :49:18.enkunlg them to go for a review of marking. They still have to pay

:49:19. > :49:22.upfront. Where else and in what other public service do you have to

:49:23. > :49:27.pay upfront before you can even complain?

:49:28. > :49:29.This morning we've been remembering the Battle of Passchendaele -

:49:30. > :49:35.one of the deadliest battles of the First World War.

:49:36. > :49:38.It began on this day 100 years ago and raged for three months

:49:39. > :49:49.Half a million soldiers lost their lives, but the gains were small.

:49:50. > :49:52.It moved the British front-line forward just five miles.

:49:53. > :49:53.It was trench warfare at its most brutal.

:49:54. > :49:56.In the next half an hour a commemorative service

:49:57. > :49:58.is being held in Belgium, which the Prime Minister

:49:59. > :50:01.and the Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge will attend.

:50:02. > :50:04.We can talk to Lydia Lobb whose great-grandfather John Butcher

:50:05. > :50:12.Now, your great-grandfather was Australian. He fought for the allied

:50:13. > :50:18.forces. Did he ever talk much to you about Passchendaele? Well, he passed

:50:19. > :50:22.away in 1977 and I was born in the 80s so I didn't meet him. What I

:50:23. > :50:25.have heard, so he kept this detailed war diary in the form of three

:50:26. > :50:29.pocket books actually that was written in pencil and when he got

:50:30. > :50:36.back he wrote over it in pen and then it was later transcribed by his

:50:37. > :50:42.son. But what I've heard is that my oldest auntie on my mum's side asked

:50:43. > :50:46.him when she was little, grandpa what the war like and he said,

:50:47. > :50:51."Love, you don't want to know." Did he ever open up? I heard so many

:50:52. > :50:55.really harrowing tales of people who have almost taken it to the grave.

:50:56. > :50:59.They haven't wanted to impart the true horror on their loved ones and

:51:00. > :51:03.others who have been able to open up and they have almost felt a sense of

:51:04. > :51:07.relief? Well, I guess, keeping this diary, I guess, must have been

:51:08. > :51:13.somewhat car that is rightic. They weren't allowed to go into much

:51:14. > :51:17.detail in case it fell into the wrong hands, but through this diary

:51:18. > :51:21.we are lucky enough to get that first hand insight into just what it

:51:22. > :51:27.must have been like from, you know, a really top line point of view. And

:51:28. > :51:32.I am aware that the family knew these diaries existed. I think that

:51:33. > :51:40.they had probably read some of it. So whilst maybe he didn't want to

:51:41. > :51:44.talk about it, you know, day-to-day, understandably, from what I've

:51:45. > :51:48.heard, luckily for my family, it didn't change his character. He was

:51:49. > :51:54.a lovely gentle man through right until the end, but you hear so many

:51:55. > :51:58.stories of, you know, soldiers who come back hose characters were

:51:59. > :52:02.really badly affected so luckily for my family that didn't seem to be the

:52:03. > :52:07.case. You talk about his diary. I know it is on display in Australia?

:52:08. > :52:12.That's right. You have got ex-hearts that you have got with you? That's

:52:13. > :52:21.right. So he was actually in the war for just over two years. And he was

:52:22. > :52:26.injured three times. During the battles. Both of those times he was

:52:27. > :52:31.sent back to the UK to recover and sent back to the front. The third

:52:32. > :52:34.time he was injured severely at the Battle of Passchendaele and sent

:52:35. > :52:41.back to the UK and was discharged and went home, but I have a couple

:52:42. > :52:47.of exerts. The first is during the battle where he says this is 12th

:52:48. > :52:52.July 1916. "Hope that Rob will never be in the same tonight that I was."

:52:53. > :52:56.Rob was his younger brother whose birthday actually fell on 12th July.

:52:57. > :53:01.Colonel Feathers tells us that we will soon be in it. For king and

:53:02. > :53:06.country, not so nice as it sounds. Looks well on books and paper,

:53:07. > :53:10.honour rolls, should but should be tried first." Prior to him being

:53:11. > :53:15.injured for the first time on 27th July. He says, "Slept in shell hole.

:53:16. > :53:20.Country ruined with shell holes. German dug-outs very deep and well

:53:21. > :53:31.made. Dead bodies and piecing lying about. Artillery around us, 18

:53:32. > :53:34.pounders. Tommies, Australians and Germans lying dead all along the

:53:35. > :53:40.road. Shall consider myself lucky if I get through." He talks the next

:53:41. > :53:45.few entries, it goes on in this fashion. That was one of the most

:53:46. > :53:51.detailed entries in fact, but then he says on 1st August. "Had a good

:53:52. > :53:58.breakfast and also some rum. On fatigue again at night, but got hit

:53:59. > :54:04.on a lay up, crawled into a station and waited for stretcher bearers."

:54:05. > :54:09.The second time he was injured was during a battle and on 1st August,

:54:10. > :54:14.he had gone back to the UK and was just about to be sent back to the

:54:15. > :54:18.front and says, "Warned for draft proceed overseas, it is raining like

:54:19. > :54:25.the devil. Read of another big battle on the Western Front. That's

:54:26. > :54:30.the Battle of Passchendaele. On 21st September, he says, "Took over line

:54:31. > :54:35.from seventh brigade. Wounded about midnight." Then there were no real

:54:36. > :54:41.entries because after that apart from when he then made it to

:54:42. > :54:47.England, there were no proper entries because he suffered a head

:54:48. > :54:52.wound and he was on the on site hospital until then and was sent

:54:53. > :54:56.back to Australia and suffered some level of paralysis for the rest of

:54:57. > :55:01.his life. Lydia, it is really moving to hear some of what he has written

:55:02. > :55:03.and get some kind of sense of the horrors he went through. Thank you

:55:04. > :55:06.for sharing that with us. Many poems have been written

:55:07. > :55:09.to try and put into words One of the most famous

:55:10. > :55:13.is by the World War One Here to recite his work

:55:14. > :55:35.Memorial Tablet, written in 1918, Why is it that war poetry resonates

:55:36. > :55:39.for us 100 years on? Well, I think that people turn to poetry in times

:55:40. > :55:45.of loss and in times of bereavement, that's one reason. Another reason is

:55:46. > :55:50.that the World War I poets were a unique generation. A certain

:55:51. > :56:00.historical circumstances came combined, I think, to create this

:56:01. > :56:04.remarkable rendgation. Sassoon and Thomas and it was the birth of

:56:05. > :56:08.modernism to a certain extent in poetry. So we still remember poems

:56:09. > :56:12.from the First World War where we wouldn't necessarily from the second

:56:13. > :56:18.or from subsequent wars. Can you read it for us Certainly.

:56:19. > :56:21.Memorial tablet. Squire nagged and bullied

:56:22. > :56:25.till I went to fight, My wound was slight,

:56:26. > :56:45.and I was hobbling back and then a shell Burst slick

:56:46. > :56:48.upon the duck-boards so I fell into the bottomless mud,

:56:49. > :56:51.and lost the light. At sermon-time, while

:56:52. > :56:55.Squire is in his pew, he gives my gilded name

:56:56. > :56:58.a thoughtful stare. For, though low down

:56:59. > :57:04.upon the list, I'm there. Two bleeding years I fought

:57:05. > :57:13.in France for Squire. I suffered anguish that

:57:14. > :57:19.he's never guessed. Once I came home on leave

:57:20. > :57:22.and then went West. What greater glory

:57:23. > :57:36.could a man desire? Thank you so much for sharing that

:57:37. > :57:41.with us. Explain briefly what's behind that and what we're trying to

:57:42. > :57:48.convey? Yes. Well, it makes reference to squire. So, in the

:57:49. > :57:53.period before conscription this would be about 1915, the parish

:57:54. > :57:58.squire, the county squire would be in charge of recruiting men between

:57:59. > :58:03.the age of 14 and 21, they were often badgered and brow beaten to go

:58:04. > :58:06.to war. Later on, Lord derby's Scheme which was a reference in the

:58:07. > :58:10.poem was introduced in which men would be visited in their homes and

:58:11. > :58:14.encouraged to go and fight and then... Forgive me for jumping in

:58:15. > :58:18.because we need to go over to BBC Newsroom Live which is coming up. I

:58:19. > :58:23.want to thank you for your company today. Thank you for watching and we

:58:24. > :58:39.will be back again tomorrow at the same time.

:58:40. > :58:43.Bolt is a shining example of the best that we can be.

:58:44. > :58:47.A man like him is not born very often.