01/08/2017

:00:07. > :00:10.Hello - it's Tuesday, it's nine o'clock.

:00:11. > :00:11.I'm Tina Daheley in for Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:12. > :00:24.Our top story today, this programme has learned Greater Manchester

:00:25. > :00:26.Police is facing new investigations by the police watchdog over three

:00:27. > :00:29.separate fatal firearms incidents. You've got quite a number

:00:30. > :00:32.of separate fails which then brings that big picture of an organisation

:00:33. > :00:34.that is questionable - We'll bring you the full

:00:35. > :00:39.exclusive story shortly. Also on the programme -

:00:40. > :00:42.a jury at the inquest of a mentally ill prisoner at HMP Holloway

:00:43. > :00:48.who took her own life at the jail last year has identified

:00:49. > :00:50.serious shortcomings We'll bring you Sarah Reed's

:00:51. > :01:00.full story before ten. Calls continue for Channel 4 to

:01:01. > :01:02.cancel plans to broadcast Private video tapes of Princess Diana. We

:01:03. > :01:07.speak to some of those who knew her. What we have to look

:01:08. > :01:11.at here is what's in the national interest and historically,

:01:12. > :01:14.twenty years after her death this Everyone who had close involvement -

:01:15. > :01:18.as indeed you did - Mr Burrell and others with great

:01:19. > :01:22.respect we should keep quiet now, Welcome to the programme,

:01:23. > :01:37.we're live until 11. Throughout the programme, we'll

:01:38. > :01:44.bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories

:01:45. > :01:46.and - as always - from you on all the stories we're

:01:47. > :01:50.talking about this morning. A little later in the programme

:01:51. > :02:00.we'll hear calls for the importance of breast-feeding to be taught

:02:01. > :02:02.in secondary schools. The UK has one of the lowest rates

:02:03. > :02:09.of breast-feeding in Europe - Get in touch - use the hashtag

:02:10. > :02:13.Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged at the standard

:02:14. > :02:16.network rate. British Gas has said it

:02:17. > :02:19.will increase the price of electricity for the first time

:02:20. > :02:23.in nearly four years. From September, the standard

:02:24. > :02:25.tariff will rise by 12.5%. The move is expected to affect more

:02:26. > :02:28.than three million customers. Ian Conn is the chief

:02:29. > :02:30.executive of British Gas's He explained why the price rise

:02:31. > :02:40.was necessary despite a decrease First of all, the last time we moved

:02:41. > :02:46.electricity prices was in January 20 14. Since then, they have been held

:02:47. > :02:51.flat. From that time, you are absolutely correct, wholesale prices

:02:52. > :02:55.have fallen. We estimate about ?36 on the average bill. That is not

:02:56. > :02:59.what is driving this but what is driving it is the transport and

:03:00. > :03:04.distribution costs, the costs of getting electricity to your home and

:03:05. > :03:09.government, environmental and policy costs. When you add these together,

:03:10. > :03:15.it goes up by approaching ?100 which is driving the increase. I should

:03:16. > :03:19.say that even after this increase, British Gas's electricity prices

:03:20. > :03:23.will be cheaper than ten other suppliers by some distance. The

:03:24. > :03:27.government says it is concerned that this price rise will hit people

:03:28. > :03:29.already on poor value tariffs and Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell

:03:30. > :03:31.said it was unacceptable. Our Business Editor

:03:32. > :03:40.Simon Jack is with us. 12.5% is a massive price rise? They

:03:41. > :03:43.are playing catch up with other energy suppliers who put up their

:03:44. > :03:49.price rises in January, they said they would freeze them back in

:03:50. > :03:55.December, but this is a big double-digit rise and will be a

:03:56. > :03:59.shock to many. In the clip from the boss of Centrica, British Gas's

:04:00. > :04:02.parent company, they say that wholesale prices have gone up,

:04:03. > :04:07.usually, but this time wholesale costs have gone down but government

:04:08. > :04:11.policy and renewables have added to this. There is a big emphasis on

:04:12. > :04:16.generating more electricity through renewables, like wind and solar

:04:17. > :04:21.energy, a bit more expensive than traditional sources like gas-fired

:04:22. > :04:24.power stations. You have two connect those sources to the actual grid

:04:25. > :04:29.which costs money, those costs are coming through to the customer. And

:04:30. > :04:32.the other thing about government policy, in terms of feeding tariffs

:04:33. > :04:45.where you can sell money to the grid, where you have your own

:04:46. > :04:48.solar panels, they take administration and they are putting

:04:49. > :04:51.those three. The government hit back this morning and say that government

:04:52. > :04:54.policies do not account to this. There is a war of words about who is

:04:55. > :04:57.to blame for this but, 3.4 million people will see a big price rise. On

:04:58. > :05:00.a prepay meter, you are already protected if you are on this as

:05:01. > :05:04.there is an energy cup. This will doubtlessly reignite the debate as

:05:05. > :05:08.to whether we need price caps, more generally in the industry. It was a

:05:09. > :05:14.Labour Party policy, the Tories had it in their manifesto but it was

:05:15. > :05:18.dropped in the Queen's speech. While other companies follow suit? Others

:05:19. > :05:21.went up in January this year, they may feel they have done their bit

:05:22. > :05:26.for this year but it is a bigger rise than we saw for many of the

:05:27. > :05:30.others, it's not impossible that we will see further rises, people say,

:05:31. > :05:36.isn't it typical that these price rises come in September with winter

:05:37. > :05:41.just around the corner? Thank you. If you are a British Gas customer,

:05:42. > :05:43.we are keen to hear your views on this story.

:05:44. > :05:45.Julian is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:05:46. > :05:49.White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci has been fired

:05:50. > :05:51.after fewer than ten days in the post.

:05:52. > :05:53.Mr Scaramucci was dismissed last night - just hours

:05:54. > :05:55.after the appointment of General John Kelly -

:05:56. > :05:57.for what officials described as his "inappropriate" comments

:05:58. > :06:01.He's the third Trump appointee to leave his role in recent days.

:06:02. > :06:03.Despite his short tenure as White House media chief,

:06:04. > :06:10.Anthony "the Mooch" Scaramucci made his mark.

:06:11. > :06:18.It was a most difficult situation to be in.

:06:19. > :06:21.What is the first thing you are going to change to right

:06:22. > :06:29.This ship is going in the right direction.

:06:30. > :06:31.One of the things I cannot stand about this town

:06:32. > :06:33.is the backstabbing that goes on here.

:06:34. > :06:35.Where I grew up, in the neighbourhood I am from,

:06:36. > :07:00.What happens to leakers on your watch?

:07:01. > :07:06.Why don't you guys get together and make a decision as a team that

:07:07. > :07:11.If you are going to keep leaking, I am going to fire everybody.

:07:12. > :07:18.He knows how to operate in an elitist world and he has

:07:19. > :07:20.unbelievable empathy for the common struggle that is going

:07:21. > :07:31.on with the middle-class people and the lower-middle-class people.

:07:32. > :07:33.Tell me why Donald Trump is not elite?

:07:34. > :07:35.The business side or the politics side or the inheritance?

:07:36. > :07:42.Many people in the UK don't understand that.

:07:43. > :07:48.There are so many things about the President...

:07:49. > :07:49.He's a celebrity, he's a billionaire.

:07:50. > :07:55.You see, you are coming across a little bit elitist.

:07:56. > :07:58.Well, social media users have been having a lot of fun with

:07:59. > :08:05.The Kate Hudson film 'How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days' was just

:08:06. > :08:10.one of the memes that appeared on Twitter.

:08:11. > :08:12.The New York Post updated its 'Survivor' front page,

:08:13. > :08:14.while other users played around with how the news

:08:15. > :08:18.There was even a suggestion that "Scaramucci" could be added

:08:19. > :08:25.to the dictionary as a measure of time.

:08:26. > :08:31.Greater Manchester Police is facing new investigations by the police

:08:32. > :08:36.watchdog over three separate fatal firearms incidents. This programme

:08:37. > :08:40.learned the Independent Police Complaints Commission is examining

:08:41. > :08:44.new evidence in the cases dating from 2008 to 2013. Many of the

:08:45. > :08:45.officers involved are still serving in the force.

:08:46. > :08:48.And we'll have more on this story shortly.

:08:49. > :08:51.A man has been left with facial injuries after two people on a moped

:08:52. > :08:55.threw an unknown liquid at him in London's Knightsbridge.

:08:56. > :08:58.Police say he was taken to hospital but has since been discharged.

:08:59. > :09:01.A spokesperson said it was not yet known if the liquid thrown

:09:02. > :09:15.Pupils should be taught about the importance of breast-feeding in

:09:16. > :09:18.schools according to the professional body representing

:09:19. > :09:21.paediatricians. The Royal College of paediatrics and Child health say

:09:22. > :09:27.that there should be legislation for best feeding breaks and facilities

:09:28. > :09:32.in all companies. The UK has one of the lowest breast-feeding rates and

:09:33. > :09:35.they blame social stigma for the trend.

:09:36. > :09:37.More needs to be done to stop women being forced

:09:38. > :09:40.to wear high heels at work, according to scientists

:09:41. > :09:43.Academics looked at the the physical and social impact of wearing

:09:44. > :09:46.the shoes and say there's enough evidence to suggest they're bad

:09:47. > :09:50.Earlier this year the Government rejected calls for a ban

:09:51. > :10:03.On that story, an anonymous text has come in. As a previous work at an

:10:04. > :10:07.estate agent as an office receptionist, I was forced to wear

:10:08. > :10:10.high heels. It wasn't stated in the contract but doubly mentioned at

:10:11. > :10:14.every occasion, it was meant to make you look smarter but made it more

:10:15. > :10:18.difficult to move around the office on a daily basis and made me feel

:10:19. > :10:23.uncomfortable and a lot of the time. Keep your messages coming in. It's

:10:24. > :10:29.time for a look at the sport now. Los Angeles will host the Olympics

:10:30. > :10:35.in 2028? Yes, a whole host of cities in the next to host this and we know

:10:36. > :10:40.that subject to ratification, essentially a formality, we know

:10:41. > :10:46.that Paris in France will host the 2024 Olympics. And, LA, in 2028.

:10:47. > :10:50.This was the team celebrating in the LA Galaxy stadium where David

:10:51. > :10:55.Beckham and Steven Gerard used to play. A victory for NA, they brought

:10:56. > :11:01.the Olympics back to the USA for the first time since 2002, Salt Lake

:11:02. > :11:09.City hosted in 1984, in Los Angeles famously. It's a centenary event for

:11:10. > :11:16.them, 100 years since they hosted it. A win-win situation. And it's a

:11:17. > :11:20.memorable day for England's cricketers, especially Moeen Ali?

:11:21. > :11:27.Dramatic, brilliant from England's point of view, winning by 239 runs,

:11:28. > :11:30.taking a 2-1 series lead. One test to play in Manchester, starting on

:11:31. > :11:36.Friday but three men we should mention. Ben Stokes was brilliant,

:11:37. > :11:40.man of the match. He took two important wickets, and Toby

:11:41. > :11:44.Roland-Jones, on his debut, the Middlesex all-rounder essentially

:11:45. > :11:52.taking eight wickets for 129 runs. Moeen Ali and what a way to finish

:11:53. > :11:58.the Test match. The first wicket, taken by Morris and caught by

:11:59. > :12:03.Stokes. A replay of Rabada's wicket. And finally... The drama. Morne

:12:04. > :12:09.Morkel, LBW, successfully reviewed. A Test match fast-track -- the first

:12:10. > :12:12.Test match hat-trick since 1939 for a spinner. There are questions about

:12:13. > :12:16.the inconsistency of the England team. They won nine matches, and

:12:17. > :12:21.every time they have done that, they have gone on to lose one directly

:12:22. > :12:29.afterwards. Questions at Old Trafford after that decider. England

:12:30. > :12:34.could win 3-1. They could be levelled up too. It is incredible

:12:35. > :12:38.for Moeen Ali. Staying with cricket, Test match special's Geoffrey

:12:39. > :12:46.Boycott was on the receiving end of a wind-up? He was, look at this. A

:12:47. > :12:51.very special moment for him, people may remember one of England's most

:12:52. > :12:56.famous batsmen, special because this century came at Headingley... His

:12:57. > :13:00.home ground in Yorkshire and this was his 100th first-class century.

:13:01. > :13:06.Bat in the air, a big moment for him, celebrating with a glass of

:13:07. > :13:10.champagne and yesterday, Jonathan Agnew played a blinder in the Test

:13:11. > :13:14.match special box. This was during the Test match, when Moeen Ali took

:13:15. > :13:20.the final three wickets to wrap it up. He started by reading a fake

:13:21. > :13:25.statement from the ICC, suggesting one of these centuries would be

:13:26. > :13:28.taken away meaning the famous 100th century would not have come at

:13:29. > :13:38.Headingley. Look at this, it is brilliant. It should say no, we are

:13:39. > :13:44.not going to. That would become your 99 100. It is ridiculous. When was

:13:45. > :13:49.it? The 11th of August. If we were not doing anything special... We

:13:50. > :13:52.don't have anything planned, do we? 180 people at our house raising

:13:53. > :13:57.money for the Yorkshire air ambulance. You will have two counts

:13:58. > :13:58.of it. We are not cancelling it, it's an absolute mess. And a

:13:59. > :14:04.complete wind-up, Geoffrey Boycott! it's an absolute mess. And a

:14:05. > :14:12.complete wind-up, Geoffrey Is that right? You Muppet. I will get you

:14:13. > :14:17.for that! Brilliant! He well and truly fell

:14:18. > :14:22.for it! An Oscar for Jonathan Agnew, we cut that down, it is about three

:14:23. > :14:26.and a half minutes long, it's on the BBC sport website. He deserves that

:14:27. > :14:31.wind-up, he will have for dinner and it all goes ahead. I will watch a

:14:32. > :14:32.full version straight after the programme.

:14:33. > :14:37.This programme has discovered that Greater Manchester Police -

:14:38. > :14:39.England's second biggest police force - is facing three

:14:40. > :14:41.new investigations into deaths involving firearms officers.

:14:42. > :14:46.The three cases are very different - they involve the shooting dead

:14:47. > :14:49.of an unarmed man, a police officer killed in a training exercise

:14:50. > :14:52.and a young man who was tasered and died after being restrained

:14:53. > :14:58.It raises questions about the conduct of GMPs firearms

:14:59. > :15:00.unit at a time when Manchester has recently been hit

:15:01. > :15:11.Simon Cox has this exclusive report for us?

:15:12. > :15:15.They are the second biggest police force in England and Wales.

:15:16. > :15:17.It is very much a male dominated environment,

:15:18. > :15:20.But Greater Manchester Police's firearms unit is facing

:15:21. > :15:30.The police have determined what has happened with Anthony's life

:15:31. > :15:34.and they're dictating what is happening in my life.

:15:35. > :15:37.Three very different cases have ended up with three people

:15:38. > :15:42.being killed and left three families grieving.

:15:43. > :15:45.I'm tempted to say you try and move on, but you don't move on.

:15:46. > :15:54.We can now reveal that all of these cases are facing new investigations

:15:55. > :15:58.If you have got quite a number of separate fails then that brings

:15:59. > :16:00.out that the big picture of an organisation

:16:01. > :16:05.that is questionable, it looks far from good.

:16:06. > :16:07.We've spoken to more than a dozen former officers,

:16:08. > :16:11.some of whom are speaking out for the very first time.

:16:12. > :16:13.I thought we were getting a little bit too much

:16:14. > :16:17.The more aggressive you get, the more likely you are

:16:18. > :16:40.So what's going wrong inside Greater Manchester Police?

:16:41. > :16:42.He was a beautiful person inside and out.

:16:43. > :16:56.I'm not trying to say for one second that he was an angel.

:16:57. > :16:58.Anthony Granger was 36, he had two young children

:16:59. > :17:08.He lived in Manchester with his partner Gail.

:17:09. > :17:10.I remember coming back and actually sitting there

:17:11. > :17:28.And then he nipped out and he didn't come home.

:17:29. > :17:32.A man was shot dead last night in Cheshire after the car

:17:33. > :17:35.he was in was stopped by officers from Greater Manchester Police

:17:36. > :17:37.It happened in Culcheth near Warrington.

:17:38. > :17:47.He had been found guilty of handling stolen cars but had no

:17:48. > :17:52.The other men in the car were a different story.

:17:53. > :17:54.They did have convictions for violence and the police saw one

:17:55. > :18:01.It was early Saturday evening back in March 2012 when armed officers

:18:02. > :18:04.swooped into this car park in unmarked cars.

:18:05. > :18:06.They were aiming for the corner which is where Anthony Granger

:18:07. > :18:16.The police say that when they got here Anthony had raised

:18:17. > :18:20.They were worried that he was going for a gun.

:18:21. > :18:25.One of the officers fired a shot and killed him.

:18:26. > :18:28.We've talked to one of the other passengers in the car and they said

:18:29. > :18:31.there was no warning, they did not know it was armed

:18:32. > :18:33.police, the first thing they knew a shot had come

:18:34. > :18:40.through the windscreen and had killed Anthony.

:18:41. > :18:43.What is clear is that Anthony Granger didn't have a gun,

:18:44. > :18:47.It was half past seven, eight o'clock in the morning

:18:48. > :18:50.and there was somebody knocking on the door so I opened

:18:51. > :18:52.the door and I thought he had forgotten his keys.

:18:53. > :18:55.It was one of his friends and his friend just stood

:18:56. > :19:07.I thought, what do you mean? He's shot?

:19:08. > :19:24.But I didn't believe it even up until I seen

:19:25. > :19:28.The sleepy village of Culcheth is the last place where you would

:19:29. > :19:39.It's somewhere John Buttress knows well.

:19:40. > :19:41.He's a former Chief Inspector with Greater Manchester Police.

:19:42. > :19:44.He was sacked over a mortgage fraud case but later cleared by a jury.

:19:45. > :19:49.He claimed he was targeted after whistle-blowing about bullying.

:19:50. > :19:52.This was denied by Greater Manchester Police and wasn't upheld

:19:53. > :20:03.His primary school is a few hundred yards down there,

:20:04. > :20:10.The sweet shop a lot of the kids used to come to is just over there.

:20:11. > :20:13.So the idea of having armed police officers doing an operation here?

:20:14. > :20:22.So why did the police shoot Anthony Granger?

:20:23. > :20:29.Earlier this year a public inquiry was held into his death.

:20:30. > :20:32.It hasn't reported its findings yet but during the evidence we started

:20:33. > :20:38.Officers had been trailing Anthony Granger and his friends

:20:39. > :20:43.for weeks, convinced they were planning an armed robbery.

:20:44. > :20:48.The top detective on the operation was this man, chief

:20:49. > :20:50.Inspector Robert Carson, seen here in 2011.

:20:51. > :20:54.He admitted making a mistake on the intelligence

:20:55. > :20:57.about Anthony Granger and said it would not have made any difference,

:20:58. > :20:59.there were still known violent criminals in the car.

:21:00. > :21:03.John Buttress says that is not good enough.

:21:04. > :21:12.The person who put together the intelligence brief,

:21:13. > :21:14.that person didn't collect the intelligence from the existing

:21:15. > :21:17.police systems and that has ended up with a man shot dead

:21:18. > :21:20.But intelligence is only one part of the picture

:21:21. > :21:38.Another one was a drugs raid on a flat about that high.

:21:39. > :21:40.Tony Long knows what it's like to pull the trigger.

:21:41. > :21:44.He shot and killed three people during his 30 year career

:21:45. > :21:52.He says you cannot just rely on someone's criminal record.

:21:53. > :21:55.By definition a good criminal is one that doesn't get caught.

:21:56. > :21:58.So if you look at the Granger case, I understand that he had

:21:59. > :22:00.a criminal background, he hung around with criminals,

:22:01. > :22:02.certainly the vehicle that they were driving was a stolen

:22:03. > :22:04.car where the plates had been swapped.

:22:05. > :22:07.The intelligence suggested, as I understand it,

:22:08. > :22:11.that they were going to carry out a robbery.

:22:12. > :22:13.It looks now with the benefit of hindsight that they were probably

:22:14. > :22:19.During the public inquiry lawyers for Anthony Granger's

:22:20. > :22:21.family said the police had exaggerated his criminal record

:22:22. > :22:26.Greater Manchester Police firmly denied this, but admitted

:22:27. > :22:40.On the night of the operation the firearms team had been on duty

:22:41. > :22:42.for 14 hours when they were told to move in.

:22:43. > :22:44.There were 16 firearms officers, all given codenames

:22:45. > :22:54.Several had failed training courses and it was argued during the public

:22:55. > :22:56.inquiry they shouldn't have been on the operation.

:22:57. > :22:59.Greater Manchester Police disputed this.

:23:00. > :23:01.I cannot honestly see how that can happen.

:23:02. > :23:04.A force such as Manchester has got resilience, so there shouldn't be

:23:05. > :23:07.a reason why somebody involved in a firearms job who wasn't trained

:23:08. > :23:15.Martin Harding spent 14 years on the front line as a firearms

:23:16. > :23:17.officer with the Greater Manchester force and still works

:23:18. > :23:21.It's very much a male dominated environment,

:23:22. > :23:30.The nature of the role means it has to be close-knit, you had to be able

:23:31. > :23:32.to trust your partners and team-mates 200%.

:23:33. > :23:36.But has this macho environment gone too far?

:23:37. > :23:41.It emerged during the public inquiry the shooter,

:23:42. > :23:43.the officer known as Q9, had seriously injured a suspect

:23:44. > :23:47.It was also revealed he had been previously disciplined

:23:48. > :23:52.He was cleared of ten other separate assault allegations and remained

:23:53. > :23:59.To have that number of complaints would raise concerns.

:24:00. > :24:02.When you've got an officer who is in a role as a firearms

:24:03. > :24:05.officer with a significant number of complaints, somebody has got

:24:06. > :24:07.to look at that managerially and decide if that is the right

:24:08. > :24:22.Ultimately Q9 told the inquiry he fired the shot

:24:23. > :24:24.because he thought his life and those of his fellow

:24:25. > :24:33.Tony Long has met Q9, they're part of the tiny group

:24:34. > :24:39.of officers who have carried out fatal shootings.

:24:40. > :24:42.He seemed just like a really decent guy, just quiet, steady.

:24:43. > :24:49.If the perception by his body language, his movements

:24:50. > :24:52.is that he was going for a gun or he has got hold

:24:53. > :24:55.of a gun and you think that your colleagues or a member

:24:56. > :24:58.of the public's life is in danger, then you are duty bound to act

:24:59. > :25:02.on that decision and do what you have been trained to do.

:25:03. > :25:06.This wasn't the last serious case Q9 was involved in.

:25:07. > :25:09.We've discovered there was another incident where his conduct

:25:10. > :25:12.was called into question after Anthony Granger's death.

:25:13. > :25:19.All of the firearms officers involved in the Granger case

:25:20. > :25:21.were granted anonymity so we can't talk about this other

:25:22. > :25:34.The questions for Greater Manchester Police go to the top of the force.

:25:35. > :25:38.During the public inquiry an Assistant Chief Constable

:25:39. > :25:41.apologised for changing his record of the operation, leading up

:25:42. > :25:47.And a senior firearms officer had destroyed his notes when he retired

:25:48. > :25:56.There's lots of stuff you get rid of, but there are things you don't

:25:57. > :25:59.get rid of and pocketbooks and notes of that nature are not

:26:00. > :26:03.one of the things that you would get rid of.

:26:04. > :26:05.Anthony Granger's partner, Gail, is still grieving,

:26:06. > :26:15.But we've discovered that the police watchdog has launched

:26:16. > :26:18.a new investigation into his killing.

:26:19. > :26:22.It's the second time the Independent Police Complaints

:26:23. > :26:24.Commission has looked into this case which is incredibly rare.

:26:25. > :26:26.They told us they are examining evidence given

:26:27. > :26:35.It has been on hold and it is still on hold now.

:26:36. > :26:42.The police have determined what is happening with Anthony's

:26:43. > :26:44.life and they're dictating what's happening in my life.

:26:45. > :26:47.I don't want anybody to have to go through the pain

:26:48. > :27:02.Just what we have been through as a family.

:27:03. > :27:04.But this isn't the first time questions have been raised

:27:05. > :27:17.about firearms officers and Greater Manchester Police.

:27:18. > :27:21.We bought it for Ian for his 18th birthday as a birthday present.

:27:22. > :27:30.So when I am in it I feel quite close to being in the Beetle,

:27:31. > :27:40.We can just picture him driving it and how pleased he was when he got

:27:41. > :27:47.it in the first place, when he got it as a birthday present.

:27:48. > :27:50.Ian Terry was devoted to his family and his job as a firearms officer

:27:51. > :28:00.He was a caring person, but I think the thing

:28:01. > :28:03.that stands out most of all was his enthusiasm for life

:28:04. > :28:20.He absolutely adored his wife and children and he loved his job.

:28:21. > :28:23.Behind me is the Sharp Project, this is home to lots of small businesses

:28:24. > :28:25.now, but in 2008 this was a disused factory.

:28:26. > :28:28.It was the ideal location for firearms officers to do

:28:29. > :28:34.It was here that PC Ian Terry had volunteered to play

:28:35. > :28:40.But what was unusual on this day is they were going to use live rounds.

:28:41. > :28:42.It was a decision that would go horribly wrong.

:28:43. > :28:45.Shot dead on duty, a policeman is killed during firearms

:28:46. > :28:57.We were told that he had been involved in an accident at work

:28:58. > :29:09.Ian Terry had been shot by an officer using a shotgun loaded

:29:10. > :29:12.with a so-called rip round cartridge at

:29:13. > :29:20.It said the case was a shocking wake-up call for Greater Manchester

:29:21. > :29:30.An inquest jury in 2010 ruled that Ian Terry had been unlawfully killed

:29:31. > :29:32.and that he would've been saved if the training had

:29:33. > :29:39.The training exercise had been over engineered if you like.

:29:40. > :29:47.And really certain elements in there should not have

:29:48. > :29:54.I thought we were getting a little bit too much

:29:55. > :30:10.John Foxcroft ran the firearms training unit

:30:11. > :30:12.at Greater Manchester but left over safety

:30:13. > :30:15.I thought they were exposing some possible dangers

:30:16. > :30:19.The more aggressive you get, the more likely you are

:30:20. > :30:23.Two years after John left the unit, Ian Terry was killed.

:30:24. > :30:24.I don't think you can underestimate it really.

:30:25. > :30:28.I have seen it a great deal in 30 years of policing and I have been

:30:29. > :30:31.involved with firearms a lot, but another situation where a police

:30:32. > :30:33.officer would end up shooting another police officer by accident,

:30:34. > :30:37.The Crown Prosecution Service said there was not enough evidence

:30:38. > :30:39.to bring criminal charges against any officers.

:30:40. > :30:41.The Greater Manchester Police was fines for health

:30:42. > :30:48.In 2014 one of the officers who organised the training

:30:49. > :30:55.The man who shot Ian Terry was disciplined but still

:30:56. > :31:00.We would have liked there to have been rather more disciplinary action

:31:01. > :31:05.against the officers who ran the exercise.

:31:06. > :31:08.He was a good friend of Ian and he just could not

:31:09. > :31:13.explain why he had gone with all that was happening.

:31:14. > :31:19.He had just gone into what he would have done in a live situation.

:31:20. > :31:21.We got the impression that the firearms officers were more

:31:22. > :31:29.or less allowed just to get on and do their own thing.

:31:30. > :31:31.John Buttress has met the two police officers who organised

:31:32. > :31:39.They had borne some responsibility but everybody else involved needs

:31:40. > :31:43.to accept their portion of the blame and it simply has not happened.

:31:44. > :31:47.There were a number of officers who failed in their duty

:31:48. > :31:53.and a police officer, a very talented individual

:31:54. > :31:55.who I know personally, who is dead as a result.

:31:56. > :31:59.But Ian Terry's family think Greater Manchester Police responded well.

:32:00. > :32:02.We have been treated as well as we could

:32:03. > :32:08.I think there were mistakes made by just a small number

:32:09. > :32:16.Incredibly we have discovered there is another new investigation

:32:17. > :32:18.by the police watchdog, this time into the Ian Terry Case

:32:19. > :32:24.We understand it follows fresh complaints about what happened

:32:25. > :32:36.And there is another controversial case where someone was killed,

:32:37. > :32:37.again involving armed officers from Greater Manchester,

:32:38. > :32:48.Jordan Begley was 23, he worked in an ice cream

:32:49. > :32:53.factory near his home in Gorton in Manchester.

:32:54. > :32:58.A hard-working person, a family man, loved his mum

:32:59. > :33:00.and his little brother, he loved football and he loved

:33:01. > :33:03.Manchester United and loved going to all the games.

:33:04. > :33:07.That was his passion, Manchester United.

:33:08. > :33:10.But on the night of his death Jordan Begley had a drunken

:33:11. > :33:12.argument with his neighbours and was threatening

:33:13. > :33:18.to attack them with a knife, so his mum called the police.

:33:19. > :33:21.I need the police here as soon you can.

:33:22. > :33:26.Jordan, just stay there, you are not going out!

:33:27. > :33:28.A patrol officer calmed him down, then other officers

:33:29. > :33:33.Jordan Begley was tasered and restrained by armed police.

:33:34. > :33:35.He was punched while he was on the ground

:33:36. > :33:43.It was a shock because they did not need that many

:33:44. > :33:48.He would not hurt a fly, so it is like why do

:33:49. > :33:51.you need all these officers when they could have been elsewhere

:33:52. > :33:58.At his inquest, the jury found police failings played a part

:33:59. > :34:01.in his death and said he had been unlawfully killed.

:34:02. > :34:04.We were really close, he is a year older than me,

:34:05. > :34:10.so it was like the loss of a cousin and a friend as well.

:34:11. > :34:14.The police were initially cleared of any blame

:34:15. > :34:17.but after the inquest the police watchdog quashed their first report

:34:18. > :34:21.and started a new investigation which had never been done before.

:34:22. > :34:24.Someone actually believes us and we can go somewhere now

:34:25. > :34:28.Someone has got to say sorry, they have got to.

:34:29. > :34:38.Many of the officers in these cases are still serving and the new

:34:39. > :34:45.These cases pose tough questions for Greater Manchester Police

:34:46. > :34:54.At a time when they are needed more than ever - can we trust

:34:55. > :34:59.We asked Greater Manchester Police to come on the programme.

:35:00. > :35:01.Instead they sent us a brief statement.

:35:02. > :35:03.They told us, "Firearms officers in GMP and around the country

:35:04. > :35:07.volunteer for the role and do a very difficult job, quite rightly under

:35:08. > :35:12.However, as the public inquiry is still ongoing,

:35:13. > :35:15.it is not possible for us to comment more specifically at this time.

:35:16. > :35:17.We will await the findings and will consider any

:35:18. > :35:38.Sarah Reed - a prisoner with mental health issues -

:35:39. > :35:40.took her own life at HMP Holloway last year.

:35:41. > :35:42.Now a jury at her inquest has identified serious

:35:43. > :35:49.Hackers say they have stolen the script for an upcoming episode of

:35:50. > :35:58.Game Of Thrones. We bring you the latest in just a moment.

:35:59. > :36:02.He is Julian in the BBC Newsroom Live a summary of the news today.

:36:03. > :36:04.British Gas will increase its electricity prices by 12.5%

:36:05. > :36:10.Its owner Centrica said the price increase was its first

:36:11. > :36:14.The company's gas prices will be held at their current level.

:36:15. > :36:17.The Government says it's concerned the price rise will hit many people

:36:18. > :36:26.And the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said it was unacceptable.

:36:27. > :36:34.I think it is extortionate, at this point in time when people's wages

:36:35. > :36:37.are being cut or frozen, and people are struggling at the moment. We

:36:38. > :36:44.said from the Labour Party that we would introduce a price cap and have

:36:45. > :36:53.alternative energy supplies. They cannot control energy prices and

:36:54. > :36:56.holders over a barrel future. The White House communications director

:36:57. > :37:00.Anthony Scaramucci has been fired less than two weeks after his

:37:01. > :37:05.appointment. After his departure from Donald Trump's top team, the

:37:06. > :37:11.new chief of staff John Kelly asked him to step aside. The former banker

:37:12. > :37:14.made headlines when comments about his predecessor were made public.

:37:15. > :37:16.A Canadian couple have been described as heros

:37:17. > :37:18.for using their speedboat to put out a wildfire.

:37:19. > :37:21.Koyne Watson was on the South Thompson River with his fiance

:37:22. > :37:23.Tasha Hunt when they spotted smoke on the bank.

:37:24. > :37:25.Tasha called the authorities but Koyne had another idea.

:37:26. > :37:28.He repeatedly drove the speedboat close to shore spinning it

:37:29. > :37:36.Firefighters were able to totally put out the fire

:37:37. > :37:50.Moore at ten o'clock. You have been reacting to our top stories this

:37:51. > :37:54.morning, British gas price rises. Adel e-mailed to say that she is a

:37:55. > :38:01.single mum with two children and has two keeper has warm in winter. She

:38:02. > :38:07.is on a prepaid meter, her gas bill was ?100 and ?40 - ?50 for her

:38:08. > :38:11.electric in January, she can barely afford this, how can she cope with

:38:12. > :38:18.price rises? She pays enough. Someone anonymously has said that

:38:19. > :38:24.they will change their tariff and now save ?152 per year, no price

:38:25. > :38:25.rises for them. That was fast. Time for a look at the sport with will

:38:26. > :38:32.Perry. Los Angeles are set to host

:38:33. > :38:34.the 2028 Olympic Games, and Paris will stage

:38:35. > :38:38.the 2024 competition. Both had wanted the 2024 event -

:38:39. > :38:41.but LA Mayor Eric Garcetti says the deal they were offered "was too

:38:42. > :38:44.good to pass up". Los Angeles has staged

:38:45. > :38:46.the Olympics twice - England's cricketers now lead

:38:47. > :38:49.the series against South Africa 2-1 after winning the third Test

:38:50. > :38:52.at The Oval by 239 runs, a win sealed by a dramatic

:38:53. > :38:58.Moeen Ali hat trick. It was brilliant yesterday

:38:59. > :39:03.afternoon, the first England spinner to get a hat-trick since 1939. The

:39:04. > :39:06.fourth and final test starts at Old Trafford on Friday.

:39:07. > :39:08.Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has made his third big

:39:09. > :39:12.He's gone back to former club Chelsea and signed Nemanja Matic,

:39:13. > :39:14.a player he signed for the Blues three years ago.

:39:15. > :39:17.He has moved to Old Trafford for a fee of ?35m, that

:39:18. > :39:20.And the World Athletics championships get underway

:39:21. > :39:23.at the weekend, but one of the star attractions on the track

:39:24. > :39:27.David Rudisha, the World and Olympic 800m champion -

:39:28. > :39:29.and world record holder, is out with a thigh injury.

:39:30. > :39:32.The Kenyan won the world title in Beijing two years ago,

:39:33. > :39:40.and broke the world record in London in 2012.

:39:41. > :39:49.I'm Tina did Healy in for Victoria. Next this morning, this is

:39:50. > :39:54.32-year-old Sarah Breed, described as a woman in tournament. She was

:39:55. > :39:59.loved and adored by her family. She had been suffering from serious

:40:00. > :40:05.mental ill-health since the death of her six-month-old baby in 2003. In

:40:06. > :40:10.2012 she was the victim of a brutal police assault where an officer was

:40:11. > :40:13.convicted. In 2014 she was controversially charged with the

:40:14. > :40:20.assault of a psychiatric nurse. She was kept in

:40:21. > :40:27.Holloway women's prison and it was there that she took her own life.

:40:28. > :40:31.Serious shortcoming is in her care have been identified and her family

:40:32. > :40:33.say that she was let down by authorities at every opportunity.

:40:34. > :40:35.Her mum Marilyn Reed joins us now along with Lee Jasper,

:40:36. > :40:39.a campaigner and spokesperson for the family.

:40:40. > :40:46.Thank you so much for coming in to talk to us this morning. Marilyn,

:40:47. > :40:50.can you tell us about Sarah, and what she was like? She was an

:40:51. > :40:57.ordinary young woman. Very much adored by her family. She

:40:58. > :41:03.experienced mental health issues after the death of her child. But,

:41:04. > :41:10.on a whole, you know, she was still someone that we still cherished and

:41:11. > :41:19.looked after. She was just a normal young woman. That had a fewer

:41:20. > :41:23.issues. How long ago did those mental health issues start? She

:41:24. > :41:30.became unwell within about six months. A couple of months after the

:41:31. > :41:36.death of her child. How much treatment was she receiving for

:41:37. > :41:42.that. Who was supporting her during this time? She wasn't really being

:41:43. > :41:50.treated. As a family, we took her to our local health care professionals.

:41:51. > :41:56.When we identified that she was struggling, with the loss of her

:41:57. > :42:00.child, she became stuck in a mode where you would try and have a

:42:01. > :42:06.conversation with her about something basic. And, she would

:42:07. > :42:11.always bring you back to this deceased baby. She would walk around

:42:12. > :42:16.with a photo that was given to her at the hospice, with the deceased

:42:17. > :42:20.child. You could not get her away from the subject. She would present

:42:21. > :42:31.the photo to you and say, have you seen my baby? How much worse did her

:42:32. > :42:38.problems get? I would say her mental health got pretty bad around about

:42:39. > :42:45.two or three years after the death of the child. Because, what happened

:42:46. > :42:51.with Sarah, is that she would not engage with any of the mental health

:42:52. > :42:57.few workers that were given to her. -- key workers that were given to

:42:58. > :43:08.her. She had a mistrust. It did not help. She would respond to GPs, and

:43:09. > :43:13.the level of care for Sarah, in the early stages, I would say was pretty

:43:14. > :43:19.poor. Partly because she would not communicate what was going on with

:43:20. > :43:27.the mental health institutions, and partly because she did not trust

:43:28. > :43:31.anyone. That mistrust was down to another incident, the problem began

:43:32. > :43:35.when she lost her child, we saw disturbing footage of her being

:43:36. > :43:43.beaten by a police officer. What impact that have on her mental

:43:44. > :43:52.health? It affected her terribly. At a time where she experienced the

:43:53. > :43:58.physical, I would call it, beating from the police officer, she had

:43:59. > :44:03.been accused of shoplifting. It was proven that she had not shoplifted.

:44:04. > :44:08.But because of how she appeared at the time, she was taken into the

:44:09. > :44:12.back of the store and accused of shoplifting. You could clearly see

:44:13. > :44:20.in the video that she is opening her bag for him to look but overall, it

:44:21. > :44:28.affected her greatly. Before what happened to her was made public, she

:44:29. > :44:36.asked the legal team looking after her then not to release that. Due to

:44:37. > :44:39.concerns for herself and her welfare, and her living child

:44:40. > :44:46.because she still has a living daughter. It really impacted her.

:44:47. > :44:51.She said she remembered feeling very frightened of white males, that were

:44:52. > :44:59.quite big. This officer was quite a big officer. And she also felt

:45:00. > :45:04.humiliated and she felt there was a change after the incident in how she

:45:05. > :45:10.was being treated by health care professionals as well. Sarah ended

:45:11. > :45:17.up in prison. How was she treated there? Umm... There are other

:45:18. > :45:25.versions of how she was treated, and the version she communicated to us

:45:26. > :45:28.while she was in their hands. What is your version based on your

:45:29. > :45:37.communications with her last time you met her in prison? The true

:45:38. > :45:44.version was that she was placed in Holloway for psychiatric reports to

:45:45. > :45:50.see if she was fit to play against an incident where she had been...

:45:51. > :45:58.Another patient had tried to sexually assault her on a mixed ward

:45:59. > :46:04.in Maudsley Hospital, and that changed but throughout her being

:46:05. > :46:08.placed in Holloway, I battled with a legal team, I tried to communicate

:46:09. > :46:15.to the judge and Holloway to find out why they felt it was necessary

:46:16. > :46:20.where an incident in a hospital... You know someone has a history of

:46:21. > :46:25.mental health, that you have decided to imprison them for a psychiatric

:46:26. > :46:32.report? Nobody could tell me why. Throughout, being in Holloway, Sarah

:46:33. > :46:35.complained in writing over phone conversations and with the few

:46:36. > :46:42.visits she had, she had her medications taken away from her that

:46:43. > :46:46.she had been on for years, she was on one of her tablets that kept her

:46:47. > :46:52.stable, it was a medication called for typing, that was removed from

:46:53. > :46:57.her more or less within a couple of weeks. But placed her in crisis.

:46:58. > :47:05.Who do you blame for Sarah's death? I'd rather not answer that at this

:47:06. > :47:13.point because I think Sarah, Sarah's death, I still have questions about

:47:14. > :47:18.her death. I will just read you a cull of messages that have come in

:47:19. > :47:23.on Twitter. "Heartbreaking listening to Sarah Reid's mother." Kelly says

:47:24. > :47:29."We need huge change too many lives lost." How did you become involved?

:47:30. > :47:33.It was Sarah's grandmother who rang me up desperate at 11 o'clock at

:47:34. > :47:38.night saying they were desperate to get this story out and that

:47:39. > :47:40.mainstream media had initially said yes, we're interested and then

:47:41. > :47:47.dropped the story and they couldn't really understand why. I then wrote

:47:48. > :47:51.something on my blog which then resulted in more mainstream press

:47:52. > :47:59.interest and that's how I came associated with the family. What

:48:00. > :48:03.were the failings as you saw them? Failings in putting a an ill person

:48:04. > :48:13.in remand on prison. That's wrong. It should never happen to anybody

:48:14. > :48:19.with serious mental health. There was a misdiagnosis, a damning critic

:48:20. > :48:23.of the jury and brutality of a level and hellish nature that you can't

:48:24. > :48:33.believe unless you really read the Tory in detail. She descended into a

:48:34. > :48:38.hell brought on by a psychosis which was left untreated by the prison. I

:48:39. > :48:43.blame Holloway and the Criminal Justice System that seems to think

:48:44. > :48:49.it's OK to treat mentally ill people as if they're behaving badly. Was

:48:50. > :48:55.this an isolated incident or a systematic failure? Systematic

:48:56. > :49:02.because we're waiting for the Home Secretary's report into deaths in

:49:03. > :49:06.custody and there is a tragic his dre Dan Saunders who were subjected

:49:07. > :49:15.to similar treatments and misdiagnosis. Sarah's mum was denied

:49:16. > :49:19.11 visits to a person on remand. Her partner was refused visits. Her

:49:20. > :49:23.solicitor was denied visits. All the time she is descending into this

:49:24. > :49:27.hellish torment that is brought on by a psychosis. For you this isn't

:49:28. > :49:35.just about the mental health issues, but it's to do with race, gender and

:49:36. > :49:41.class. Tell me why? I think as a black woman, as a young black woman

:49:42. > :49:50.who is suffering mental health, made Sarah particularly vulnerable and

:49:51. > :49:54.acute and the kind of beat that we saw from PC James Kennedy aggravated

:49:55. > :50:00.that and we know about the disproportionate deaths of people

:50:01. > :50:04.within the Criminal Justice System. The Government announced more effort

:50:05. > :50:07.for mental health patients. Surely we should be make ago law that

:50:08. > :50:13.nobody with mental health should be in a prison. No, it's not the place.

:50:14. > :50:15.A Ministry of Justice spokesperson told us:

:50:16. > :50:17."This is a tragic case and our thoughts are with

:50:18. > :50:21.We await the full recommendations from HM coroner and these findings

:50:22. > :50:23.will be carefully considered by the departments

:50:24. > :50:34.Princess Diana's former bodyguard and close friend

:50:35. > :50:37.tells this programme that a controversial documentary

:50:38. > :50:39.about her being shown on Channel 4 this weekend

:50:40. > :50:49.Lots of you getting in touch with this. Jess says, "Diana tapes, no

:50:50. > :50:54.purpose of making public. Those poor boys William and Harry have enough

:50:55. > :50:57.stress in their lives. The decision should be with Queen, Prince Charles

:50:58. > :51:01.and Diana's children. The tapes are their prort. They have so little

:51:02. > :51:06.privacy. Some things should be kept private." An e-mail from Pixie.

:51:07. > :51:12.Calling for the tapes not to be aired is ridiculous. People saying

:51:13. > :51:16.it will upset the boys is a lame excuse for it upsetting some of the

:51:17. > :51:19.establishment that are continually trying to remove Princess Diana's

:51:20. > :51:25.existence. William and Harry are grown men. In the interview last

:51:26. > :51:29.week, William made it clear that he wanted George and Charlotte to know

:51:30. > :51:33.they had another grandmother and she existed. This is a clear message

:51:34. > :51:35.that people should acknowledge. History cannot and should not be

:51:36. > :51:41.rewritten. More on this at 10.30am. The Royal National Lifeboat

:51:42. > :51:43.Institution or RNLI, says last year saw a rise

:51:44. > :51:46.in the number of coastal They're warning of the shock that

:51:47. > :51:50.can come with falling into cold water as we enter the deadliest

:51:51. > :51:54.month for accidents in the sea. Radio 1 Newsbeat's Rick Kelsey has

:51:55. > :51:57.been in Cornwall with the RNLI as a new national campaign tells

:51:58. > :52:00.people how to deal with the shock Tens of thousands of people

:52:01. > :52:09.will go into the water One of the most popular

:52:10. > :52:13.places is here in Newquay. So how would you describe

:52:14. > :52:14.today's conditions? Yes, it's pretty good,

:52:15. > :52:20.it's pretty solid out there. It's nice and clean

:52:21. > :52:22.which makes a change. Josie has the job of watching

:52:23. > :52:25.hundreds of surfers and swimmers I've lived pretty much

:52:26. > :52:35.on this beach all my life. I've done the Surf Life Saving Club

:52:36. > :52:38.since I was little. It's nice to keep the waters safe

:52:39. > :52:41.in somewhere you have always lived. So on a day like this

:52:42. > :52:45.what are the trickiest things that For holiday-makers they do not

:52:46. > :52:49.understand the water like we do. So they just think they can go

:52:50. > :52:53.wherever they want and sometimes when you tell them they don't

:52:54. > :52:56.like to be told what to do. Although the beach has lots of flags

:52:57. > :53:03.flying it's clear some people don't The red and yellow flags

:53:04. > :53:06.there are for swimmers, bathers and body boarders,

:53:07. > :53:10.so any soft equipment. And then we've got the black

:53:11. > :53:12.and white chequered flag which are for surfers and kayakers

:53:13. > :53:15.and stand-up paddle boarders, anything with a hard bottom,

:53:16. > :53:17.a hard fin, anything like that. We like to keep them separate

:53:18. > :53:20.because obviously we don't want a surfer to bump into any

:53:21. > :53:22.of the swimmers. Every year just under 200 people die

:53:23. > :53:25.on the UK's coastline Anthony Miller was just

:53:26. > :53:30.23 when he went into They were drinking, partying

:53:31. > :53:39.and he basically said right, He went into the sea

:53:40. > :53:46.and basically he disappeared. I really, really want people to be

:53:47. > :53:49.aware that when you are on holiday, or whether you live by the sea,

:53:50. > :53:52.and you are out drinking by all means have a good time,

:53:53. > :53:56.but do not go near the water, do not because you may not

:53:57. > :54:07.come back out alive. Even in the summer months

:54:08. > :54:10.the temperatures in UK waters do not get much above 16 Celsius

:54:11. > :54:13.which is about the same temperature that comes out

:54:14. > :54:16.of your cold water tap. And August is also the month

:54:17. > :54:20.that the guys who work in this Volunteers like 18-year-old Michaela

:54:21. > :54:25.can be in the water saving lives just ten minutes after serving

:54:26. > :54:32.customers in a pharmacy. I am actually the only girl

:54:33. > :54:35.in the crew and I'm the youngest so it can sometimes be

:54:36. > :54:38.a little bit challenging. So we're just off to

:54:39. > :54:44.a training exercise. My grandad was a coxsmith

:54:45. > :54:47.in a life-saving boat in the 1970s It's just the adrenaline

:54:48. > :54:51.and knowing that you could potentially save someone's life

:54:52. > :54:53.just changes everything. If you can save someone's

:54:54. > :54:58.life, it is worth it. And their families will always

:54:59. > :55:04.remember you for looking So one of the big things the RNLI

:55:05. > :55:11.are talking about this year So what happens when you fall

:55:12. > :55:15.into really cold water and how not If you're out around the coastline,

:55:16. > :55:22.you could be fishing on rocks and slips, trips and falls around

:55:23. > :55:25.the coast, if you end up in the water, you will be

:55:26. > :55:28.in your clothes because you were not As he goes in now, it's cold,

:55:29. > :55:35.there is shock in his body, so the natural instinct

:55:36. > :55:40.is to fight against it. Now his heart rate is running

:55:41. > :55:42.at an unusual rhythm Trainer Lewis wants people to go

:55:43. > :55:46.against their natural reactions I want you to go onto your back,

:55:47. > :55:53.arms out by your side and push your chin as high

:55:54. > :55:57.as you can towards the air and that will keep your airwaves

:55:58. > :55:59.away from the water. It's that initial part

:56:00. > :56:01.of giving yourself a minute, a minute and a half,

:56:02. > :56:04.to let your heart rate go back to a normal rhythm

:56:05. > :56:07.and get your breath back and try and compose yourself a little bit

:56:08. > :56:10.so you are not making rash decisions So I am obviously in a wet suit,

:56:11. > :56:20.but when anyone else falls in, it is the weight of your clothes

:56:21. > :56:24.that also drags you down. Obviously that initial thrashing

:56:25. > :56:25.around, the air pockets come out of the clothes

:56:26. > :56:29.and they become very heavy. So the calmer you stay, the more

:56:30. > :56:33.effective that is going to be. Shouting for help is the most

:56:34. > :56:36.important thing and obviously around the coastline if anybody sees

:56:37. > :56:38.anything, anybody in distress, Never attempt to rescue

:56:39. > :56:41.anybody yourself. You have a lot of trouble

:56:42. > :56:50.with people getting into trouble with their own bravery and the best

:56:51. > :56:53.thing to do is call 999 Despite the warnings,

:56:54. > :56:59.the amount of injuries and deaths has remained steady over the last

:57:00. > :57:02.five years and the RNLI hope with this new advice fewer people

:57:03. > :57:18.will get into trouble. The Government say they are not

:57:19. > :57:22.ruling out the option of introducing legislation to impose an energy

:57:23. > :57:28.price cap. It is after the announcement by Centrica of a 12.5%

:57:29. > :57:32.increase in electricity prices. Our political guru Norman Smith can tell

:57:33. > :57:35.us more. Good morning, Norman. We thought the Government had booted

:57:36. > :57:39.this idea of a price cap into the long grass because in the Queen's

:57:40. > :57:42.Speech the policy was abandoned and the Government just said we're going

:57:43. > :57:46.to leave it to the regulator to think about what to do next. This

:57:47. > :57:51.morning, Government sources saying no, they are ruling nothing out,

:57:52. > :57:55.including the option of legislation to impose a price cap. What does it

:57:56. > :58:00.tell us? I think it tells us that there is a likely public anger at

:58:01. > :58:04.this latest increase of 12.5%, well above the sort of pay rises people

:58:05. > :58:08.are getting at a time of rising inflation. It tells us too of the

:58:09. > :58:13.pressure they're under too from the Labour Party, which again, has

:58:14. > :58:17.committed to introduce a price cap. A word of caution though, we have

:58:18. > :58:21.been here so many times before. This argument about what to do about

:58:22. > :58:27.rising energy bills has been rumbling for years. We have had

:58:28. > :58:31.endless competition inquiries to establish whether there is some sort

:58:32. > :58:34.of cartel among the big six energy companies. Nevertheless, the

:58:35. > :58:38.Government this morning seeming to be leaving open the door of the

:58:39. > :58:43.possibility that they could legislate to impose a cap on the

:58:44. > :58:47.energy bills we pay. Norman, thank you very much indeed.

:58:48. > :58:49.Hackers claim to have stolen the script for an upcoming episode

:58:50. > :58:51.of the American television series Game of Thrones.

:58:52. > :58:53.The show's producers HBO have confirmed a "cyber incident".

:58:54. > :59:02.Newsbeat's Entertainment reporter Sinead Garvan can tell us more.

:59:03. > :59:10.What happened? Sunday night lots of American journalists received in

:59:11. > :59:17.e-mail from someone claiming to have 1.5 terabytes of data from HBO. He

:59:18. > :59:21.or she wrote, "Hi to all mankind. The greatest leak of cyberspace is

:59:22. > :59:23.happening. You are lucky to be the first pioneers to witness and

:59:24. > :59:29.download the leak. Enjoy it and spread the word. HBO is falling."

:59:30. > :59:35.They also claim to have more material that they will be releasing

:59:36. > :59:42.soon, but so far it is supposed to be a script of the next episode of

:59:43. > :59:48.Game of Thrones and unreleased episodes of Bawlers. What have HBO

:59:49. > :59:51.had to say? They have confirmed the leak and not given any specifics.

:59:52. > :59:55.They haven't said what episodes it was. They say there was a cyber

:59:56. > :59:58.incident and they are investigating into it, but some of the people who

:59:59. > :00:02.work for them have been making comments to various American outlets

:00:03. > :00:05.saying when you have got a product, that is this popular and people want

:00:06. > :00:10.to know what's happening and there is lots of secrecy around it, people

:00:11. > :00:13.are going to try and get in and it is the world we live in that this

:00:14. > :00:17.sort of thing is happening. It isn't the first time that HBO had this

:00:18. > :00:23.problem, is it? There is quite a few. You might remember Sony in

:00:24. > :00:30.2014, a load of their information was leaked, all the e-mails personal

:00:31. > :00:32.to high-profile actresses and actors, Netflix more recently,

:00:33. > :00:42.someone was asking for a ransom. They said they had ten episodes of

:00:43. > :00:46.Orange Is The New Black. Screeners were released to members of the

:00:47. > :00:49.press. They unfortunately got leaked. And that stopped any

:00:50. > :00:55.screeners of any Game of Thrones being sent out to any press since.

:00:56. > :00:58.Are the lines circulating on social media as a massive Game of Thrones

:00:59. > :01:03.it is hard enough to avoid spoilers if you haven't watched an episode

:01:04. > :01:06.immediately? People trying to catch up with because it is on America

:01:07. > :01:10.before over here and everyone writes it up. It is hard. You can't find

:01:11. > :01:15.much on the internet about the leak. Don't worry if you are worried about

:01:16. > :01:23.spoiling it. Thank you, Sinead. Now, it is time for the weather.

:01:24. > :01:29.Unsettled weather for the start of August, it's a day of sunshine and

:01:30. > :01:32.showers, many in the north and west, gradually moving eastwards through

:01:33. > :01:40.the day but in between the showers we had sunshine to look forward to.

:01:41. > :01:44.Breezy with highs of 15-24d. Shallow seas and clear. Overnight, whether

:01:45. > :01:49.France pushing in, from the south-west. Dry tomorrow morning,

:01:50. > :01:55.temperatures range between ten and 16 degrees. The rain band in the

:01:56. > :02:00.West will gradually track northwards and eastwards, strong winds with it

:02:01. > :02:06.as well. Northern parts of Scotland stay dry for Match Of The Day, the

:02:07. > :02:12.odd isolated shower, temperatures ranging from 16-20d, the worst day

:02:13. > :02:16.of the week. Sunshine and showers, by the time we get into Thursday,

:02:17. > :02:19.but at least there is brightness in between to compensate.

:02:20. > :02:21.Hello, it's Tuesday, it's ten o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley

:02:22. > :02:30.More on our top story - Greater Manchester Police faces

:02:31. > :02:32.new investigations over three fatal firearms incidents.

:02:33. > :02:35.One ex-officer criticises its "aggressive" tactics.

:02:36. > :02:37.I thought we were getting a little bit too much

:02:38. > :02:40.The more aggressive you get, the more likely you are

:02:41. > :02:53.We'll hear from current and former firearms officers

:02:54. > :02:58.Princess Diana's former bodyguard and close friend tells this

:02:59. > :02:59.programme it's important Channel 4 broadcast the private

:03:00. > :03:01.recordings of her talking about her personal life.

:03:02. > :03:04.I think it's important that the public have this

:03:05. > :03:07.information, because Diana was an iconic figure,

:03:08. > :03:13.an important person within the royal family that will go down in history.

:03:14. > :03:19.Should Channel 4 show the documentary? Loads of you getting in

:03:20. > :03:24.touch. Gary says in the name of decency and humanity, return the

:03:25. > :03:25.tapes to the family now. Get in touch with your views whether you

:03:26. > :03:29.agree or disagree. Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom

:03:30. > :03:49.with a summary of today's news. Good morning. The government says it

:03:50. > :03:53.isn't ruling out the option of introducing legislation to impose an

:03:54. > :03:57.energy price cap after a decision by British Gas to raise electricity

:03:58. > :04:02.prices. The government said the 12.5% increase, brought in next

:04:03. > :04:06.month, would hit many people already on poor value tariffs. The owner of

:04:07. > :04:08.British gas blamed the increase and distribution costs.

:04:09. > :04:11.The White House has insisted that President Trump's new chief of staff

:04:12. > :04:12.will bring discipline to his administration,

:04:13. > :04:14.following the sacking of Anthony Scaramucci as director

:04:15. > :04:16.of communications after less than ten days in office.

:04:17. > :04:20.Mr Scaramucci was dismissed last night - just hours

:04:21. > :04:22.after the appointment of General John Kelly -

:04:23. > :04:24.for what officials described as his "inappropriate" comments

:04:25. > :04:36.A man has been left with facial injuries after two people on a moped

:04:37. > :04:38.threw an unknown liquid at him in London's Knightsbridge

:04:39. > :04:41.Police say he was taken to hospital but has since been discharged.

:04:42. > :04:44.A spokesperson said it was not yet known if the liquid thrown

:04:45. > :04:48.Doctors have called for secondary schools

:04:49. > :04:49.to teach children about the

:04:50. > :04:56.The Royal College of Paediatrics and child

:04:57. > :05:01.The college says Britain has one of the lowest rates

:05:02. > :05:06.of breast-feeding in Europe, blaming social stigma for the trend.

:05:07. > :05:15.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:05:16. > :05:21.Los Angeles is set to host the 2028 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

:05:22. > :05:23.LA's bid team has reached an agreement with the International

:05:24. > :05:26.Olympic Committee, which is expected to be ratified by the Los Angeles

:05:27. > :05:33.LA had originally been bidding for the 2024 Games,

:05:34. > :05:40.but that event is now set to take place in Paris.

:05:41. > :05:47.We have an Olympics ready city. What I would say is, unlike the old model

:05:48. > :05:51.where people try to fit the Olympics to the city, this is a model where

:05:52. > :05:55.we fit the city to the Olympics. We aren't building things for the

:05:56. > :05:59.Olympics and hoping our people benefit but building for our people

:06:00. > :06:03.who will benefit and we know the Olympics can take advantage of

:06:04. > :06:07.those. It's a different kind of model, not every city will be LA but

:06:08. > :06:09.we hope that we can build the city by telling folks use what you have

:06:10. > :06:13.and use it well. England's cricketers will go

:06:14. > :06:16.into Fridays fourth and final test against South Africa with a 2-1 lead

:06:17. > :06:19.after an amazing finish to the third The tourists were trying

:06:20. > :06:23.to save a draw, but two wickets in two balls from debutant

:06:24. > :06:26.Toby Roland Jones ended those hopes. The only resistance

:06:27. > :06:27.came from Dean Elgar, But it was Moeen Ali

:06:28. > :06:31.who finished South Africa off, winning the match in the perfect

:06:32. > :06:49.fashion - with a hat-trick. I think how we played was brilliant.

:06:50. > :06:53.We looked down the side and got a number of matchwinners throughout.

:06:54. > :06:56.If we can setup a game and get him into a position of strength, we can

:06:57. > :07:01.find ways of getting across the line. It's important we continue to

:07:02. > :07:05.do that but more importantly, we responded positively after last

:07:06. > :07:06.week. It was a tough week, but it shows the character of the guys in

:07:07. > :07:08.dressing room. The World Athletics championships

:07:09. > :07:10.get underway at the weekend, but one of the star attractions

:07:11. > :07:13.on the track won't be there. David Rudisha, the World

:07:14. > :07:15.and Olympic 800m champion - and world record holder,

:07:16. > :07:19.is out with a thigh injury. The Kenyan won the world title

:07:20. > :07:22.in Beijing two years ago, and broke the world record in London

:07:23. > :07:26.in 2012. This programme has learned that

:07:27. > :07:32.Greater Manchester Police is facing new investigations by the police

:07:33. > :07:34.watchdog over three separate It raises questions

:07:35. > :07:38.about the conduct of one of the UK's second biggest firearms unit

:07:39. > :07:40.at a time when Manchester has recently been hit

:07:41. > :07:42.by a terror attack. We bought you Simon Cox's

:07:43. > :07:44.full exclusive report earlier in the programme -

:07:45. > :07:53.here's a short extract. It's been on hold,

:07:54. > :07:59.and it's still on hold now. The police have determined

:08:00. > :08:01.what is happening with Anthony's life and they are dictating

:08:02. > :08:08.what is happening in my life. Anthony Grainger was 36,

:08:09. > :08:12.a father of two young children. He was shot dead in the sleepy

:08:13. > :08:17.village of Culcheth in March 2012. Even up until I seen

:08:18. > :08:22.his body in the morgue. Police believed he was

:08:23. > :08:25.planning an armed robbery. There were known violent

:08:26. > :08:27.criminals with him. There was a public inquiry

:08:28. > :08:37.into his death earlier this year. It was argued there were mistakes

:08:38. > :08:39.in the police intelligence, some of the armed officers had

:08:40. > :08:41.failed training courses and the most senior officer had

:08:42. > :08:46.changed his notes on the operation. You've got quite a number

:08:47. > :08:49.of separate fails which then brings is that big picture

:08:50. > :08:51.of an organisation During the inquiry,

:08:52. > :09:00.Greater Manchester Police said it was committed to learning lessons

:09:01. > :09:03.from the case and that no firearms officer goes to work

:09:04. > :09:06.wishing to injure or kill. The inquiry hasn't reported yet

:09:07. > :09:09.and will have to decide whether Anthony Grainger's death

:09:10. > :09:11.could have been avoided. This isn't the first time, though,

:09:12. > :09:13.questions have been asked Ian Terry was devoted to his family

:09:14. > :09:23.and his job as a firearms officer We were told that he'd been involved

:09:24. > :09:30.in an accident at work and that everyone had done

:09:31. > :09:32.all they could but they Ian Terry was killed

:09:33. > :09:41.on a training exercise at this An inquest jury ruled he would have

:09:42. > :09:48.been saved if the training had John Foxcroft ran the firearms

:09:49. > :09:55.training unit at Greater Manchester, but left over safety

:09:56. > :09:59.concerns in 2006. I thought we were getting

:10:00. > :10:01.a little bit too much The more aggressive you get,

:10:02. > :10:07.the more likely you are There were no criminal charges

:10:08. > :10:11.brought, but Greater Manchester Police was fined for health

:10:12. > :10:15.and safety offences. And there's another controversial

:10:16. > :10:19.case, that of Jordan Begley. I need the police here

:10:20. > :10:22.as quick as I can. Well, I'll get an officer

:10:23. > :10:25.there as soon as we've got one. Jordan, just stay there,

:10:26. > :10:27.you're not going out! This was the call his mum made

:10:28. > :10:29.to police after a drunken He was tasered and punched

:10:30. > :10:34.while he was on the ground. An inquest jury found that police

:10:35. > :10:43.failings played a part in his death Someone actually believes

:10:44. > :10:51.us and someone will do We can go somewhere now,

:10:52. > :10:55.we can do something about it. We've discovered that

:10:56. > :10:59.all of these cases are now facing new investigations

:11:00. > :11:01.from the police watchdog. With many of the officers

:11:02. > :11:03.still serving, it poses tough questions for Greater Manchester

:11:04. > :11:08.Police. We asked Greater Manchester Police

:11:09. > :11:16.to speak to us this morning - they said no - but told us "Firearms

:11:17. > :11:19.officers in GMP and around the country volunteer for the role

:11:20. > :11:22.and do a very difficult job, quite rightly under the highest

:11:23. > :11:29.levels if scrutiny." We can however speak to Tony Long -

:11:30. > :11:32.a former Metropolitan Police firearms officer -

:11:33. > :11:34.who shot dead three He has met the officer

:11:35. > :11:43.who shot Anthony Grainger. Shea Donald joins us, a Police

:11:44. > :11:47.Federation spokesperson on firearms, and Leroy Logan, a former

:11:48. > :11:54.superintendent in the Metropolitan Police and the founder of National

:11:55. > :11:59.Black Police Association. Tell us your reaction to the film you have

:12:00. > :12:04.seen and your concerns about Greater Manchester Police's firearms unit. I

:12:05. > :12:08.do not have any concerns. There are three tragic incidents you have

:12:09. > :12:12.spoken of, in the space of three or four years between all of them. If

:12:13. > :12:18.we talk about them individually, one was an accident in training, we have

:12:19. > :12:21.strict health and safety now, and health and safety may have been

:12:22. > :12:25.breached in that instant, I don't know, I would be lying if I said I

:12:26. > :12:30.had not been in situations where we went, that was close, because

:12:31. > :12:36.something happened that we had not anticipated. Somebody does something

:12:37. > :12:40.off the script, and causes a danger. As far as that Anthony Grainger

:12:41. > :12:49.incident is concerned, I have a great deal of sympathy for Q9, I

:12:50. > :12:54.found myself in a near identical situation, shooting someone dead

:12:55. > :12:59.even though I did not see a gun but acting upon intelligence. They were

:13:00. > :13:03.sat in a stolen car with swaps number plates. The intelligence was

:13:04. > :13:07.they were going to do a robbery. What is key for someone watching at

:13:08. > :13:10.home, they would be thinking, we know from the enquiry there was not

:13:11. > :13:16.a gun in the car, Anthony Grainger did not have a gun and nobody in the

:13:17. > :13:21.car had a gun but he was shot dead? If a police officer perceives there

:13:22. > :13:25.was a threat, three weapons were recovered inside of the car in my

:13:26. > :13:28.case but I made it clear from the outset that I made the decision to

:13:29. > :13:34.fire not having seen the guns but believing the intelligence I was

:13:35. > :13:39.given and acting on his body language. Q9 gave evidence at the

:13:40. > :13:42.enquiry that they were acting on intelligence they were given, that

:13:43. > :13:51.they were armed and were going to conduct a robbery. The suspect put

:13:52. > :13:57.his hands up and put his arms down in a way that led them to believe he

:13:58. > :14:00.was armed. If he was in a stolen car with stolen plates, they may have

:14:01. > :14:05.been carrying out reconnaissance that if they get involved in

:14:06. > :14:09.criminality of that nature, that when they are confronted by armed

:14:10. > :14:13.police, by the very nature of the intelligence they are acting on, the

:14:14. > :14:21.lives of the officers are going to take priority over the lives of the

:14:22. > :14:29.suspects, unfortunately. And Che, how often are police involved in

:14:30. > :14:34.shootings? It is extremely low, figures produced for the last 12

:14:35. > :14:38.months show we have had 15,000 operations, over 15,000 operations,

:14:39. > :14:45.and we have had ten discharges within all of those operations. It

:14:46. > :14:49.has to pay credit to the training the officers receive, and the

:14:50. > :14:56.restraint they show in dealing with incidents that potentially have far

:14:57. > :15:01.reaching repercussions, not only to the public that the officers

:15:02. > :15:06.themselves. Ten discharges in 15,000 operations over a space of 12 months

:15:07. > :15:10.is absolutely fantastic. I keep saying that our firearms officers

:15:11. > :15:16.are the best trained and most restrained in the whole of the UK.

:15:17. > :15:19.What impact does it have on officers involved in those incidents, like

:15:20. > :15:25.you? You've been in a position where you have shot dead people in your

:15:26. > :15:28.career, what impact does it have? Absolutely huge. It is bigger than

:15:29. > :15:35.only the officers but their families as well. They have husbands, wives

:15:36. > :15:40.and children, their lives are put on hold. As you mentioned earlier in

:15:41. > :15:44.your report, no officer comes to work in the firearms unit with the

:15:45. > :15:49.desire to shoot anyone. In fact, we try and resolve the situation at the

:15:50. > :15:53.lowest possible level, before we have to resort to the use of deadly

:15:54. > :15:58.force. That is only in the most extreme circumstances, where there

:15:59. > :16:04.is the immediate threat to life, perceived by the officer. But, their

:16:05. > :16:09.life is put on hold. The impact that they have taken another life dwells

:16:10. > :16:15.on them as well. You know, where thoughts have previously been around

:16:16. > :16:20.a firearm shooting, everybody goes back and it is high-fiving and tea

:16:21. > :16:25.and medals for everyone, no, it is extremely solemn and there is a lot

:16:26. > :16:30.that takes its toll on the officers. Your adrenaline may have been very

:16:31. > :16:34.high at the start of the instant but afterwards, the reality kicks in

:16:35. > :16:36.that a life has been taken and that life has a family of their own,

:16:37. > :16:49.there are victims with families. What do you think? I think, you

:16:50. > :16:55.know, there is a need for specialist firearms officers and to deal with

:16:56. > :16:59.the risk that they face, other firearms, other weapons to save

:17:00. > :17:04.lives, the public and even the suspects themselves, but like

:17:05. > :17:10.everything, it's how it's dealt with at the time and subsequently. I

:17:11. > :17:15.mean, just listening to the video just then and even Martin Harding

:17:16. > :17:18.who was on there, he is a Manchester officer, retired superintendent from

:17:19. > :17:25.Manchester. He thinks there is questions to be asked and again, it

:17:26. > :17:31.is around perceptions and if the fact that police are seen to be not

:17:32. > :17:36.totally open and transparent even though there is some legal con

:17:37. > :17:39.staints, but if they feel there isn't that transparency and

:17:40. > :17:42.accountability then it reinforces people's perceptions that officers

:17:43. > :17:46.are trying to hide something and invariably that's not the case,

:17:47. > :17:50.however, you know, it's trying to be, trying to get that balance and

:17:51. > :17:55.reassuring the community that those officers did the best they can in a

:17:56. > :17:59.professional manner. Do you think more armed police make people feel

:18:00. > :18:05.safer or reduce trust and confidence in the police? Well, it depends what

:18:06. > :18:10.sort of policing they have experienced. If the trust and

:18:11. > :18:14.confidence is low, is commence rate with heavy handed policing. To know

:18:15. > :18:18.officers are more armed can have more of a threat to them, more of a

:18:19. > :18:22.fear. Whereas certain communities where trust and confidence is high

:18:23. > :18:26.and they see armed officers they are reassured. So it is different issues

:18:27. > :18:31.for different communities. Tony, I will let you respond quickly. I

:18:32. > :18:37.accept what Leroy is saying, but the reality is all of the incidents that

:18:38. > :18:39.we're talking today, one is a training accident. Both are

:18:40. > :18:45.situations where the police are trying to deal with a violent

:18:46. > :18:50.situation. Look at the so-called controversial shootings, so the one

:18:51. > :18:59.in London, Mark duggan that caused the riots, my incident and Granger

:19:00. > :19:05.were all intelligence led. If Anthony Granger had been sat at home

:19:06. > :19:10.watching TV with his kids instead of being in a stolen car. With duggan

:19:11. > :19:17.were questions around the intelligence and not only about him,

:19:18. > :19:22.but the person... Was duggan in a car with a gun? We are out of time.

:19:23. > :19:25.Thank you to all three of you for your contribution.

:19:26. > :19:28.Calls continue for Channel 4 to cancel plans

:19:29. > :19:34.to broadcast private video tapes of Princess Diana.

:19:35. > :19:37.But one close friend believes the documentary should be shown.

:19:38. > :19:46.We will hear if him in the next half an hour. A tweet from a viewer who

:19:47. > :19:51.says, "We should see the tapes. It is against freedom of speech." Harry

:19:52. > :19:57.says, "It is time they let her lie in peace." An anonymous text, "The

:19:58. > :20:00.Princess Diana pictures, tapes or whatever, should not be shown on TV,

:20:01. > :20:05.whatever will get shown in public about her or the Royal Family is

:20:06. > :20:10.private and should stay that way. Why should the public see it only to

:20:11. > :20:13.pass judgment?" This programme won't hurt William and Harry. They know

:20:14. > :20:16.everything. The tapes have been around for years." John says,

:20:17. > :20:20."People should be ashamed of themselves. They are just trying to

:20:21. > :20:23.make money over Diana's death. I don't know how they sleep at night."

:20:24. > :20:27.Keep your messages coming in. Doctors are calling for secondary

:20:28. > :20:29.schools to teach children about The Royal College of Paediatrics

:20:30. > :20:34.and Child Health says the UK has one of the lowest rates of the practice

:20:35. > :20:38.in Europe with just a third of babies receiving breast milk

:20:39. > :20:41.at the age of six months. Would that change if pupils

:20:42. > :20:46.were taught about it at school? With me is Judith Ellis,

:20:47. > :20:49.Chief Executive of the Royal College In our Cambridge studio

:20:50. > :20:54.is Hollie McNish. She's a mum and spoken

:20:55. > :20:57.word artist who writes about motherhood and having

:20:58. > :20:59.to breast-feed her daughter in a public toilet because of

:21:00. > :21:12.the stigma of doing so in public. Welcome to the programme. Why is

:21:13. > :21:15.this an issue of concern for you? Paediatricians are convinced and the

:21:16. > :21:21.evidence shows us that breast milk is best for babies. And it's a very

:21:22. > :21:24.big push for us to try and increase these rates. So we know as you were

:21:25. > :21:27.saying that we have only got a third of mothers at six months

:21:28. > :21:34.breast-feeding. In Norway they have 71%. So it's a real concern that our

:21:35. > :21:39.rates drop off. 75% of mothers start breast-feeding and by the end of six

:21:40. > :21:45.weeks you have got 40% and it has dropped again down to 35%. The NHS

:21:46. > :21:52.advises women to breast-feed exclusively for six months. Only 1%

:21:53. > :21:58.manage to. Why is it so low? 1% manage to breast-feed. It is 35% of

:21:59. > :22:02.mothers are breast-feeding. It is actually, you have still got some

:22:03. > :22:10.breast-feeding for six months, but that's the guidance. And what about

:22:11. > :22:13.the lessons in schools? Why teach 11-year-olds about breast-feeding? I

:22:14. > :22:20.think one of the things we were trying to look at is why is the drop

:22:21. > :22:24.off? There is a vast amount of work supporting mothers once they have

:22:25. > :22:28.had a baby and before they deliver. You need to change cultural attitude

:22:29. > :22:37.towards breast-feeding and you start with the children. And we have a

:22:38. > :22:43.really good network called And Us where we have hundreds of children

:22:44. > :22:47.we consult with. 50%, fine. The other 50%, yuck. That was their over

:22:48. > :22:51.arching statement. They need to change that. These are the parents

:22:52. > :22:54.of the future and they need to accept the importance of

:22:55. > :22:57.breast-feeding. What would you say to people who say it is not a

:22:58. > :23:03.school's place to teach children about breast-feeding? Well, it is a

:23:04. > :23:08.school's place to teach them about how to have a healthy life for the

:23:09. > :23:14.future. It is not just about passing exams. It will involve parents and

:23:15. > :23:18.we therefore it is important to get the health messages across. Health

:23:19. > :23:22.education is just being reviewed as to what's going to be delivered in

:23:23. > :23:25.school. So they already have sessions delivered in school and we

:23:26. > :23:31.want to include in the sessions breast-feeding because we see it as

:23:32. > :23:36.vital for the health of the babies. Hold I I want to bring in Holly. Why

:23:37. > :23:40.is it something you care about so passionately? I think I care about

:23:41. > :23:45.it so passionately now because I guess after sharing, I wrote a poem

:23:46. > :23:47.and I wrote it while I was sitting in a public toilet feeding my

:23:48. > :23:51.daughter because I was too embarrassed. I didn't have to go

:23:52. > :23:55.there, I just felt too embarrassed to sit on a cafe on my own and it

:23:56. > :24:00.was just the reaction from people that kind of shown me how important

:24:01. > :24:05.it is to people. Has been shared by millions of women who said they also

:24:06. > :24:10.often go and sit-in public toilets to feed their babies. You think what

:24:11. > :24:16.sort of place do we live in? I had no physical problems doing it. It

:24:17. > :24:22.was just psychological. Raising a kid is so hard and the idea that

:24:23. > :24:27.just to feed your baby that's such a big issue. Can I get you to read a

:24:28. > :24:30.couple of lines to give us an idea of how you were feeling and what you

:24:31. > :24:37.were trying to articulate? All right, yeah. As the pyramid cells

:24:38. > :24:41.pictures and female breasts banned until they are out for show. The

:24:42. > :24:46.more I go out, the more I can't stand it. I walk into town and feel

:24:47. > :24:52.I'm surrounded by bandits because in this country of billboards covered

:24:53. > :24:54.in tits, WH Smith top shelves out for men, why don't you complain

:24:55. > :25:00.about them then? Thank you very much. Can you talk to

:25:01. > :25:03.me more about the type of, when you say the reaction to you

:25:04. > :25:07.breast-feeding, what's the reaction? Well, just the reaction, I didn't

:25:08. > :25:11.put that poem online at first because I just didn't think anyone

:25:12. > :25:15.else would relate to it. I didn't think anyone else was embarrassed to

:25:16. > :25:19.do it when they were on their own. And just the fact that so many mums

:25:20. > :25:25.and dads too have said that they've kind of felt this way. They felt it

:25:26. > :25:30.was stigmatised. But also the kind of negative reaction as well. The

:25:31. > :25:33.weird comments I have had from a lot of people online comparing it to

:25:34. > :25:37.going to the toilet and comparing it to things you wouldn't do in public.

:25:38. > :25:41.A lot of people saying because it is natural doesn't mean you should be

:25:42. > :25:45.doing it in public like going to the toilet is natural and you don't do

:25:46. > :25:49.that in a restaurant. That's from lack of education, just not knowing

:25:50. > :25:52.that's something that's excreting fluids that are unhealthy, that you

:25:53. > :25:56.shouldn't be able to do this anywhere you want and that's because

:25:57. > :26:03.it is not normalised, it is not taught. I don't see why it is not

:26:04. > :26:11.taught. We teach the digestive system and we teach roe

:26:12. > :26:17.reproduction. New mums experience guilt for giving up or choosing not

:26:18. > :26:22.to breast-feed. Will this had to pressure and expectation that women

:26:23. > :26:26.should? The thing we say about this, it is natural to breast-feed, but it

:26:27. > :26:30.doesn't come naturally. We accept it can be very difficult and there are

:26:31. > :26:33.certain mothers who will not be able to breast-feed for medical reasons

:26:34. > :26:37.too. And there are certain babies who can't breast-feed. As far as the

:26:38. > :26:41.paediatricians are concerned because that's our organisation, we have to

:26:42. > :26:45.encourage breast-feeding. Breast milk is such a protector for babies.

:26:46. > :26:49.I mean my background, I'm a paediatric nurse and I was a

:26:50. > :26:54.paediatric ward sister for eight years on the medical ward and we

:26:55. > :26:58.didn't get babies in with gastro entro Isis and ear infections, the

:26:59. > :27:04.protection it gives these babies is vital. So as a college we have to

:27:05. > :27:08.say breast milk is the best thing, but we recognise that there are some

:27:09. > :27:12.mothers and some babies that it is not going to be right for. And

:27:13. > :27:16.that's where we'll leave it. Thank you very much indeed.

:27:17. > :27:18.The Royal National Lifeboat Institution or RNLI says last year

:27:19. > :27:21.saw a rise in the number of coastal deaths in August.

:27:22. > :27:24.They are warning of the shock that can come with falling into cold

:27:25. > :27:28.water as we enter the deadliest month for accidents in the sea.

:27:29. > :27:31.Radio 1 Newsbeats Rick Kelsey has been in Cornwall with the RNLI,

:27:32. > :27:34.who are launching a new national campaign to tell people how

:27:35. > :27:36.to deal with the shock of falling into cold water.

:27:37. > :27:39.If you're out around the coastline, you could be fishing on rocks,

:27:40. > :27:42.you know, slips, trips or falls around the coast, if you end up

:27:43. > :27:45.in the water, generally you're going to be in your clothes

:27:46. > :27:50.So as he goes in now the cold is shocking his body,

:27:51. > :27:52.so the natural instinct is to fight against it.

:27:53. > :27:54.Now, his heart rate is running at unusual rhythm,

:27:55. > :27:59.Trainer Lewis wants people to go against their natural reactions

:28:00. > :28:07.I want you to go on your back, arms out by your side,

:28:08. > :28:09.and I want you to sort of push your chin as high

:28:10. > :28:14.That's going to keep your airway away from the water.

:28:15. > :28:16.It's that initial part of giving yourself a minute,

:28:17. > :28:19.minute and a half to just let your heart rate go back

:28:20. > :28:22.to a normal rhythm and obviously get your breath back and just try

:28:23. > :28:25.and compose yourself a little bit, so we're not making rash decisions

:28:26. > :28:34.Now, last year, Camber Sands in East Sussex hit the headlines

:28:35. > :28:36.after seven people died after swimming in the sea.

:28:37. > :28:41.That came after two men lost their lives there a month before.

:28:42. > :28:43.One of them was 36-year-old Mohit Dupar.

:28:44. > :28:46.He was trying to rescue a man who got into trouble when waves

:28:47. > :28:50.Mohit was swimming with his 17-year-old son Ankush,

:28:51. > :28:55.We can speak to Ankush now and also Simon Crayfourd

:28:56. > :29:00.He was a lifeguard for more than a decade and is now an area

:29:01. > :29:06.lifesaving manager in Devon and Cornwall.

:29:07. > :29:14.You went to Camber Sands in east Sussex last July with your dad. It

:29:15. > :29:19.was a normal day out for you. When did you railise something was badly

:29:20. > :29:27.wrong? Yes, it was a normal day. We always went for a weekend once or

:29:28. > :29:31.twice in the month for the beach. We normally go to Bournemouth, but dad

:29:32. > :29:40.decided to go to Camber Sands and it was a really nice day that day and

:29:41. > :29:44.it was crowded. But there wasn't any flags that something was going to

:29:45. > :29:49.happen. There was a white flag, how far you can go. So we went in the

:29:50. > :29:55.water and we took some pictures as well in the water and after that,

:29:56. > :30:02.when I came back to put my phone in the bag and when I went back in the

:30:03. > :30:07.water dad was a little bit far. I thought he's just going for the

:30:08. > :30:12.swimming and then I realised he's going too far. I wear glasses and at

:30:13. > :30:17.that time I wasn't wearing so I didn't know what was going on. I

:30:18. > :30:23.asked him, "Why are you going far?" ?" He said somebody is drowning in

:30:24. > :30:27.the sea and needs help. You call for help. I called for the help and

:30:28. > :30:30.after that the tide came out and after that, I remember I just woke

:30:31. > :30:40.up in the hospital. It was a summers day in July, what

:30:41. > :30:49.was the sea like, and the waves that day? The waves were normal, it was

:30:50. > :30:59.like normal day. There wasn't anything... Any kind of... You could

:31:00. > :31:07.not see that there was any kind of... But anything could happen like

:31:08. > :31:17.this. You remember your dad shouting to you, what did he say? He said

:31:18. > :31:23.that somebody needed help, they were in trouble in the water, they needed

:31:24. > :31:28.help, he called for help and called for the coastguard. Your dad was a

:31:29. > :31:34.hero, he was trying to save someone else when he got into trouble, does

:31:35. > :31:40.that give you some comfort? Yes. Simon, let me bring you in. What

:31:41. > :31:43.more would you like to see done to stop what seems to be happening

:31:44. > :31:46.every year when it comes to summer, a rise in the number of these kinds

:31:47. > :31:55.of incidents of people getting into trouble? It is a tragic case, events

:31:56. > :32:00.like this happen year after year and that's one of the reasons why the

:32:01. > :32:03.RNLI have brought about the Respect the Water campaign to encourage

:32:04. > :32:08.people to get a better understanding of the environment they are going

:32:09. > :32:14.into, and to give them some basic skills to help themselves if they

:32:15. > :32:19.find themselves in difficulty. The first piece of advice is, if you do

:32:20. > :32:24.see somebody in difficulty in the water, call 999 and ask for the

:32:25. > :32:29.coastguard. It's 100% the right thing to do and if you find yourself

:32:30. > :32:33.in the water unexpectedly, as was just said in that piece before,

:32:34. > :32:39.laid-back and float, relax. Keep yourself calm and that will let

:32:40. > :32:46.yourself get into a state where you are in a position to make clear

:32:47. > :32:50.decisions and you can out of that situation you found yourself in. You

:32:51. > :32:55.cannot talk about the situation at Camber Sands, it is not your area

:32:56. > :32:59.but deaths there were put down to rip currents, can you explain what

:33:00. > :33:04.those are? That is water trying to find its own level again. When waves

:33:05. > :33:09.break on the shore, the water wants to find its way back out to its own

:33:10. > :33:13.level. It will find the path of least resistance, which forms a

:33:14. > :33:19.channel. There there is a stronger current. It pulls you out from the

:33:20. > :33:22.shore towards the deeper water, and that's when people start to panic

:33:23. > :33:28.and find themselves in difficulty. The best advice that we can give is

:33:29. > :33:33.to stay calm, do not swim against the current, actually float with it.

:33:34. > :33:38.That will eventually peter out, the current will weaken, and you will be

:33:39. > :33:42.able to find yourself in water where you can swim across the beach, and

:33:43. > :33:47.back into an area of safety without tiring yourself out and trying to

:33:48. > :33:51.fight that large body of water pushing against you in the rip

:33:52. > :33:57.current itself. Thank you to both of you for joining us this morning.

:33:58. > :34:01.Now, should Channel 4 broadcast Private video tapes of Princess

:34:02. > :34:05.Diana? A new documentary is due to air next week, showing footage

:34:06. > :34:06.previously never shown in the UK where the Princess of Wales

:34:07. > :34:13.discusses her marriage. The BBC decided to pull its own

:34:14. > :34:15.programme containing the same tapes ten years ago -

:34:16. > :34:18.and there are now calls Earlier we spoke to Ken Wharfe,

:34:19. > :34:22.who was Princess Diana's close He was in charge of the Princess's

:34:23. > :34:26.security at home and abroad, in public and in private,

:34:27. > :34:28.and became her close And Dai Davis, who is former head

:34:29. > :34:38.of Royal Protection for Met, Diana said, what do you want a

:34:39. > :34:40.drink? It was like being in a wine bar in Kensington with a friend. She

:34:41. > :34:43.said, do you know about Camilla Parker Bowles? I could not deny that

:34:44. > :34:45.I knew about it, I said yes, of course. There was a hesitation and

:34:46. > :34:48.she said well, she features most days, most hours and minutes of my

:34:49. > :34:52.life. I did not really understand at that point exactly what she meant.

:34:53. > :34:56.Of course, the days that followed, the weeks that followed, the months

:34:57. > :35:03.that followed, I knew exactly what she meant by that. She sort of

:35:04. > :35:08.carried out her in research, and found the previous Prince of Wales

:35:09. > :35:13.has had their own mistresses. Earlier, we spoke to Ken Worf,

:35:14. > :35:18.Princess Diana's close protection officer for six years. He was in

:35:19. > :35:23.charge of her security at home and abroad, in public and in private and

:35:24. > :35:27.became a close friend and confidant. As we saw, he features in the

:35:28. > :35:31.documentary and the former head of royal protection for the mat, also

:35:32. > :35:37.new Princess Diana -- the Metropolitan Police.

:35:38. > :35:43.What is your role in this upcoming film about Princess Diana? My role

:35:44. > :35:48.in the process is to support the film, that is primarily my role

:35:49. > :35:52.because I was a participant in the film as I believed in its quality

:35:53. > :36:03.and structure, and why the film needs to be made. That is my role. I

:36:04. > :36:06.was her protection officer from 1986 to 1983. I was very much around at

:36:07. > :36:14.the time she made this broadcast with Peter Settler and in 1992 and

:36:15. > :36:20.1993. And Dai Davis, you don't believe that these tapes should be

:36:21. > :36:25.broadcast, can you tell Ken why? We have had so much Diana over the last

:36:26. > :36:32.20 years, most people I think would want her to rest in peace and her

:36:33. > :36:40.children should be allowed to put this in the past. They did an

:36:41. > :36:43.documentary on their mother, I would like to remember her as she was

:36:44. > :36:49.rather than regurgitate continuously what we have been for a number of

:36:50. > :36:53.years. While I have great respect for Ken Wharfe, he was a great

:36:54. > :36:56.police and protection officer, I do not believe this is the time or

:36:57. > :37:02.place, especially 20 years before the anniversary of her tragic death.

:37:03. > :37:08.Channel 4 tell us this is a important historical source and

:37:09. > :37:13.public record? We should learn lessons of history as I say in the

:37:14. > :37:16.lectures I give. I lecture at Cardiff University's business School

:37:17. > :37:23.on ethics and the moral factors involved in ethics. Ethics is

:37:24. > :37:27.knowing what is right, and having the courage to do what is right.

:37:28. > :37:34.With great respect for Ken Wharfe and everyone else, I do not think

:37:35. > :37:40.this is right. Ken, Dai does not think this is right. He is entitled

:37:41. > :37:46.to his viewpoint, I would never deny that but what you need to look at

:37:47. > :37:54.here is a person. Diana, during her short life in 1981 right through to

:37:55. > :37:58.her abandonment of royal duties in 1993, 1994, they had a significant

:37:59. > :38:05.impact and carved the path to the future and modernisation of the

:38:06. > :38:10.monarchy. Whilst Dai has a point, what we need to look at here is what

:38:11. > :38:14.was in the national interest. Historically, 20 years after her

:38:15. > :38:22.death, this is information we should know about. Can I respect to the --

:38:23. > :38:26.respectfully say that a lot of people have cashed in on this. I

:38:27. > :38:30.only lecture in terms of what happened in Paris. That's the only

:38:31. > :38:34.time you will ever hear me talk about Diana because I've researched

:38:35. > :38:39.it over three or four years and I am passionately keen in protecting both

:38:40. > :38:45.her memory, as a decent person, and to regurgitate, as I say, some of

:38:46. > :38:49.the more fallacious factors involved in, as you know, she was going

:38:50. > :38:56.through a period of incredible hurt and mistrust. Everyone who had close

:38:57. > :39:00.involvement, as you did, Mr Burrell and others, with great respect we

:39:01. > :39:04.should keep quiet now and let her rest in peace. That's what I say.

:39:05. > :39:10.The vast majority of the public wanted. Channel 4 are doing this to

:39:11. > :39:15.make money, make no mistake. It is and people cashing in, people make

:39:16. > :39:20.programmes and these need to be financed. If you choose to see the

:39:21. > :39:28.programme next week, you will see the actual line, the continuity from

:39:29. > :39:32.Diana's marriage in 1981 through to her death in 1997, you will see how

:39:33. > :39:36.professionally the programme has been put together. It has been

:39:37. > :39:41.slated as the sex tapes but there is no mention of these at all. These

:39:42. > :39:45.tapes had been in a public domain with an intelligent and educational

:39:46. > :39:49.approach to the documentary. I support Channel 4 in this and in my

:39:50. > :39:54.view, once the programme has shown that people will generally realise

:39:55. > :39:58.how historical in context the programme is and, for that reason, I

:39:59. > :40:03.think things have to be said. There was a quote the other day saying,

:40:04. > :40:08.should it be another 30, 40 or 50 years before this is shown? It's

:40:09. > :40:12.irrelevant, the point is this is historical in the sense that it

:40:13. > :40:15.happened 20 years ago, I do not share the view that Princes William

:40:16. > :40:20.and Harry will be upset by this. Like all members of the Royal family

:40:21. > :40:25.they read the newspapers and are aware of current affairs, they will

:40:26. > :40:31.see it for what it is and therefore I support the view and your idea of

:40:32. > :40:37.cashing in, you lecture, and I lecture internationally as well

:40:38. > :40:42.about it. Spreading the message and telling people how important the

:40:43. > :40:47.roles Diana had in the 20th century, that is a continuation of it. It's

:40:48. > :40:50.important the public have this information as she was an iconic

:40:51. > :41:04.figure, important in the Royal family and will go down in history.

:41:05. > :41:08.To allay fears of a Royal... The documentary maker who made it.

:41:09. > :41:16.Equally I would say her brother and her sisters through this, and others

:41:17. > :41:21.closely allied to her, I would say fine, but they are not. We should

:41:22. > :41:27.take this into account. I would say yes, I will watch the tapes. I read

:41:28. > :41:33.transcripts published in 2004. I am aware of a great deal of content and

:41:34. > :41:43.what is actually in the film? No, I have not seen. Dai, will you watch

:41:44. > :41:47.the film on Sunday? I will now, as I may be asked to comment on it. But

:41:48. > :41:53.at the moment I stand by what I am thinking and what I am saying. You

:41:54. > :41:56.both new Princess Diana personally, how would she have reacted to what

:41:57. > :42:09.is happening now? She did not give her permission, what would her

:42:10. > :42:15.reaction be? I new Princess Diana in a way that Dai didn't, I remember

:42:16. > :42:20.1992 when she used a very good friend of hers, who is in the

:42:21. > :42:23.documentary, he talks very openly about that period. Diana desperately

:42:24. > :42:34.tried to resolve problems within her marriage. He was her biographer? The

:42:35. > :42:38.conduit between Diana and Andrew Morton. Diana tried desperately to

:42:39. > :42:45.resolve the complications and problems within her marriage.

:42:46. > :42:48.Achieving little or no help. People, friends of the Prince of Wales,

:42:49. > :42:53.openly went on national television to say that Diana was mad, and even

:42:54. > :42:58.friends of the Queen said that she was damaged goods. In the end, Diana

:42:59. > :43:03.had to resort to dealing with this herself. With Morton, panorama and

:43:04. > :43:09.so forth. Even now, with these tapes, she is telling somebody else

:43:10. > :43:15.the problems of her marriage. Let's understand that there is no point in

:43:16. > :43:20.hiding what happened here. Her sons know about this. I think for the

:43:21. > :43:24.first time ever, you know, we are having this documented in a format

:43:25. > :43:30.where I think people will realise and understand it. This has been in

:43:31. > :43:34.the public domain for so much time. There have been numerous

:43:35. > :43:38.documentaries. I myself have been on these documentaries, becoming a pop

:43:39. > :43:42.pundit. Is the first documentary I've ever taken part in where there

:43:43. > :43:46.is a line earth continuity explaining everything from the day

:43:47. > :43:51.of their marriage in 1981 through to her death in 1997. We had to leave

:43:52. > :43:55.it there but thank you very much for taking part. Loads of you getting in

:43:56. > :43:59.touch about some of these stories today. One text from Gary, the

:44:00. > :44:07.paparazzi harmed Diana's memory and even after her death, the trauma her

:44:08. > :44:08.son suffer continues. Repugnant, shameless and disgraceful.

:44:09. > :44:11.Loads of you getting in touch about breastfeeding following that

:44:12. > :44:12.discussion earlier about whether it should be taught

:44:13. > :44:20.One text saying their daughter is due to give birth and has made the

:44:21. > :44:26.decision not to breast-feed, she has had all their experiences with

:44:27. > :44:37.midwives making her breast-feed, she attended an event where mothers who

:44:38. > :44:43.choose to bottle feed web described as bad mothers.

:44:44. > :44:47.Many women struggle, myself included, but I have been taught

:44:48. > :44:51.about the benefits and therefore I was determined to succeed. Let's

:44:52. > :44:54.educate young people, the next generation and support women to

:44:55. > :44:59.persevere to give the best possible start in life for their children.

:45:00. > :45:03.Keep your messages coming in and just to let you know, if you are

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:45:39. > :45:41.viewers are unaffected. I'm Tina Daheley in for

:45:42. > :45:43.Victoria Derbyshire. The Met Police says stealing a moped

:45:44. > :45:46.and committing robbery has become the "crime of choice" among young

:45:47. > :45:48.people in London. Last night, a man was left

:45:49. > :45:50.with facial injuries after two people on a moped threw liquid

:45:51. > :45:56.at him in Knightsbridge. Today, a group of delivery riders

:45:57. > :45:59.will meet the deputy mayor of London She's from the Motorcycle Crime

:46:00. > :46:04.Prevention Community which is a campaign group that's

:46:05. > :46:06.formed on Facebook. She's asked us not

:46:07. > :46:08.to use her surname. Also with us the Labour MP

:46:09. > :46:11.Steve McCabe says he was hit in the face with brick that had been

:46:12. > :46:24.thrown by one of two motorcyclists. Steve, that looks like a very, very

:46:25. > :46:31.nasty bruise on your face. Tell us what happened. Well, I was out with

:46:32. > :46:36.a group of volunteers. We were door knocking. This issue of motorbike

:46:37. > :46:41.thuggery or menace is quite a big problem in the area and a couple of

:46:42. > :46:45.them came down the road at high-speed zigzagging, doing

:46:46. > :46:49.wheelies in the middle of the road, very threatening and I shouted at

:46:50. > :46:53.them to park it in. I shouted that a couple of times and then I said I

:46:54. > :46:57.would phone the police. They took off, but they came back a few

:46:58. > :47:01.moments later. One of them got off the bike and confronted me and while

:47:02. > :47:05.I was engaged with him, the other one threw a rock or a brick at the

:47:06. > :47:09.side of my head with some force. Now, do you think there, is as the

:47:10. > :47:17.police describe it, a crime of choice? Especially after the Muslim

:47:18. > :47:21.Brotherhood attack overnight? Well, I think there is a real issues with

:47:22. > :47:28.mopeds and motorcyclists at the moment. I think basically the police

:47:29. > :47:33.are in danger of losing control of the streets. These people are

:47:34. > :47:37.threatening and intimidating hole neighbourhoods and unless we get

:47:38. > :47:41.more police on the streets and give them more resources, we're going to

:47:42. > :47:45.lose control of this situation. What are you hoping to achieve by

:47:46. > :47:53.taking this to the deputy mayor today? Good morning, Tina and thank

:47:54. > :48:00.you for the opportunity to speak to me on the behalf of our motorcycle

:48:01. > :48:06.prevention community. Motorcycle theft has become a massive problem

:48:07. > :48:12.and especially in London. People are being threatened and this affected

:48:13. > :48:17.motorcyclists, but now it is spreading to the wider community.

:48:18. > :48:21.People are using acid and there is a distinction between criminals on

:48:22. > :48:25.mopeds and motorcyclists and I think it is an important distinction to

:48:26. > :48:29.make here because motorcyclists are under threat themselves. So what do

:48:30. > :48:35.you want to see happen? What solves this problem? How do you reduce this

:48:36. > :48:39.number of attacks? Well, the first step I propose is currently the

:48:40. > :48:43.police's is unable to pursue the criminals and the first thing we

:48:44. > :48:49.need to do is find means of enabling them. So we are as suggested earlier

:48:50. > :48:53.as well, we are hoping to get more resources for the Met Police and

:48:54. > :48:59.both in terms of, you know financial resources, but also greater powers

:49:00. > :49:07.to pursue offenders, any kind of offenders including offenders on

:49:08. > :49:10.mopeds. This is... Sorry, go on. One of the ends we are trying to

:49:11. > :49:14.accomplish, we would like to have more adequate and secure motorcycle

:49:15. > :49:20.and moped parking around London, London east, a hotspot for this

:49:21. > :49:22.problem, although other areas are affected for example Bristol and

:49:23. > :49:28.Birmingham are heavily affected as well. We would like some help from

:49:29. > :49:33.the courts as well which is just to essentially do their job to back up

:49:34. > :49:36.the police with real solutions in the form of punishments for the

:49:37. > :49:40.crimes that these people have committed. OK, thank you very much

:49:41. > :49:44.for joining us this morning. Less than half of young men say

:49:45. > :49:46.they'd contact police if they accidentally found images

:49:47. > :49:49.of child sex abuse online - that's according to a survey

:49:50. > :49:51.for an online watchdog. The Internet Watch Foundation

:49:52. > :49:53.is encouraging people to report the material

:49:54. > :49:55.to its experts anonymously. They've been working

:49:56. > :49:57.with Everton Football Club to teach young footballers

:49:58. > :49:59.about the importance During the workshops,

:50:00. > :50:04.players admitted they'd received worrying messages on apps

:50:05. > :50:07.like Snapchat from men claiming to be football agents

:50:08. > :50:10.and wanting to sign them. Snapchat say the exploitation

:50:11. > :50:12.of children on its platform is "absolutely unacceptable

:50:13. > :50:14.and a complete misuse Let's talk now to Andy Wood who runs

:50:15. > :50:25.the safeguarding workshops He was there when some players said

:50:26. > :50:30.they'd been targeted by people Susie Hargreaves is Chief Executive

:50:31. > :50:36.of Internet Watch Foundation and Andy Woodward, a former

:50:37. > :50:38.Crewe Alexandra footballer who waived his anonymity to speak

:50:39. > :50:41.out about abuse in football He says the governing bodies

:50:42. > :50:45.in football have a "moral responsibility" to do something

:50:46. > :51:01.about the abuse of Suzy, why football clubs? Well, the

:51:02. > :51:04.Internet Watch Foundation is the UK hot light for reporting and removing

:51:05. > :51:10.online sexual abuse and to give you a sense of what that means in 2016,

:51:11. > :51:14.we removed 57,000 individual web pages of child sexual abuse and

:51:15. > :51:18.about 50% of the children were under ten and about 50% was rape and

:51:19. > :51:22.sexual torture. Now, what we know from all the surveys we've done is

:51:23. > :51:26.that the most likely group to stumble on child sexual abuse are

:51:27. > :51:31.young men aged 16 to 24 and they are the least likely to report it to us.

:51:32. > :51:34.So we wanted to reach young men and one of the great ways to reach them

:51:35. > :51:38.was through the power of football. And we reached out to Everton

:51:39. > :51:43.because Everton have got this fantastic track record in terms of

:51:44. > :51:48.their safeguarding and are very active in UK safer internet day and

:51:49. > :51:52.we went to talk to them and asked if we could run some workshops, not

:51:53. > :51:56.just looking at child sexual abuse, but looking at sexual behaviour

:51:57. > :52:01.because we want young men if they stumble across child sexual abuse,

:52:02. > :52:04.not to freeze or panic, and not to close the commuter down, but to

:52:05. > :52:07.report it from us so we can remove the images because they are real

:52:08. > :52:10.children who have really been sexually abused and we need to get

:52:11. > :52:13.them off the internet. You can understand why they might be

:52:14. > :52:19.fearful, scared, worried about doing so. How practically do they go about

:52:20. > :52:23.reporting any images they might stumble across? Yes, I do understand

:52:24. > :52:26.why. And what people need to understand is that if you have

:52:27. > :52:30.accidentally stumbled, there is no danger of you reporting it to us.

:52:31. > :52:33.You can report anonymously. We are not interested in your details. We

:52:34. > :52:41.don't follow up with you. We don't send information to the police about

:52:42. > :52:45.who reports to us. You report online Iwf.org.co.uk. Send us the web link.

:52:46. > :52:48.We will take a look at it. If it is child sexual abuse, we will work

:52:49. > :52:55.internationally to get it removed. Andy, you were there when some of

:52:56. > :53:00.the boys you worked with told us they were targeted by fake football

:53:01. > :53:02.coaches. That was over a biggercution about people pretending

:53:03. > :53:06.to be someone else online. We tried to encourage the young men to make

:53:07. > :53:09.the right choices and to actually think more carefully about the

:53:10. > :53:12.people that are online, they are talking to, their contacts, their

:53:13. > :53:15.relationships, and the fact that maybe those people they're talking

:53:16. > :53:20.to don't have their best interests at heart. And Snapchat is one

:53:21. > :53:23.platform. It could have been any platform. It could have been across

:53:24. > :53:26.any of the social media applications, the notion that we're

:53:27. > :53:29.trying to get no these young men to safeguard them is that they need to

:53:30. > :53:32.think carefully about the relationships that they develop.

:53:33. > :53:37.What, can you give me some of the example. What are the scenarios you

:53:38. > :53:44.go through with them? First of all, the first thing we say is how much

:53:45. > :53:48.we love the internet. I use the internet every day. That that's

:53:49. > :53:54.really important to get across that the internet is a good place for the

:53:55. > :53:59.most part. You start talking about introducing an idea of, you get a

:54:00. > :54:03.text, a message from a girl who says she is 16 for example. Asking for an

:54:04. > :54:08.image. What do you do? How do you know the girl is 16? What sorts of

:54:09. > :54:13.issues? What sort of red flags does the fact that the girl is 16 raise

:54:14. > :54:18.in itself? It is illegal to produce images of children under the age of

:54:19. > :54:24.18. So, it's a real understanding, it is an education of making sure

:54:25. > :54:27.these young men, these elite players are protecting themselves, their

:54:28. > :54:32.club and also this they are gaining skills to go forward as well. Why

:54:33. > :54:37.aren't more clubs involved? Well, this was a pilot. Everton were

:54:38. > :54:41.really brave and they are real leaders in the field and they

:54:42. > :54:45.stepped up and took part and the project exceeded our expectation.

:54:46. > :54:49.One thing I would say the issues Everton deals with are the same for

:54:50. > :54:54.every club, whether it is football, rugby, anything, but the issue... It

:54:55. > :54:57.is for young people in general. All young people are in these situations

:54:58. > :55:04.and are vulnerable to those risks. We have run it for a year. We did a

:55:05. > :55:09.detailed analysis, evaluation, we had an advisory board. We really

:55:10. > :55:12.want to reach out to the Premier League, the FA, the PFA and all the

:55:13. > :55:16.other football clubs and sports clubs and say this works. The young

:55:17. > :55:20.men got a lot from it. What we did find out was that young men will do

:55:21. > :55:23.the right thing if they have the education and support. And you have

:55:24. > :55:26.got to hand it to Everton, they really, really, got behind this

:55:27. > :55:30.project and they're dealing with this in a really, really fantastic

:55:31. > :55:33.way. I want to bring Andy into the conversation too. Good morning,

:55:34. > :55:40.Andy. Good morning. Happened when you sat down with the FA a few

:55:41. > :55:44.months ago and talked to them about how to deal with the issues we are

:55:45. > :55:49.talking about? I met Greg Clarke in November and he told me he would be

:55:50. > :55:55.supportive and on board with what my project is. I have met with the

:55:56. > :55:59.governing bodies at executive level just a couple of months ago with the

:56:00. > :56:06.holistic solution that would prove that there is a problem within all

:56:07. > :56:11.sports and that's physical, online abuse, you know, financial abuse,

:56:12. > :56:15.and I gave it to them and I have yet to hear anything back, but it's

:56:16. > :56:18.clear to see that this is an issue for vulnerable players because

:56:19. > :56:24.footballers need trust and what we've come up with is an independent

:56:25. > :56:28.body that players can go to and I think what they were just saying

:56:29. > :56:31.before is so important because footballers are vulnerable and it's

:56:32. > :56:34.something that I'm passionate about and something that we need to move

:56:35. > :56:41.forward with it and it's so important. We need to save these

:56:42. > :56:44.players and be able to, for them, to become professional footballers that

:56:45. > :56:50.they want to be, but they need trust and trust is key. Andy, what do you

:56:51. > :56:56.think needs to happen practically? Well, I've given them a full package

:56:57. > :56:59.that will protect players in the future and it's an independent body

:57:00. > :57:04.and I'm still waiting to hear from them and it's so important that we

:57:05. > :57:09.do this now and all of us collectively can make that

:57:10. > :57:13.difference for our future. Footballers are unique because when

:57:14. > :57:16.they go into that world, and if they are successful, they are earning

:57:17. > :57:20.lots of money and they get a lot of attention. So, how is your training

:57:21. > :57:25.specific, the workshops you do specific to them? Well, we do

:57:26. > :57:30.emphasise right at the start that they are not the normal child on the

:57:31. > :57:34.street. My son is 16. He would love to be a professional footballer.

:57:35. > :57:38.Unfortunately, he's not. These group of elite sportsmen are different.

:57:39. > :57:42.These are potential captains of national teams for example. So, we

:57:43. > :57:48.have to really emphasise to them that they are not the normal person.

:57:49. > :57:52.I have to say as well, the safeguarding arrangements put in

:57:53. > :57:56.place at these clubs does need to be spot on and Everton seem to have a

:57:57. > :58:00.really good grasp on that. They do seem to be a unique set of

:58:01. > :58:04.circumstances. Obviously many advantages becoming a footballer,

:58:05. > :58:07.but disadvantages and things they need to look out for as well. Thank

:58:08. > :58:12.you very much indeed. Thank you for your company today.

:58:13. > :58:14.On the programme tomorrow, we'll talk to the parents

:58:15. > :58:17.of a miracle baby who survived despite being told she'd stopped

:58:18. > :58:27.Join us tomorrow for that. Have a great day in the meantime.