02/08/2017

:00:00. > :00:00.Hello. It's Wednesday.

:00:07. > :00:08.It's 9am. I'm Tina Daheley in for Victoria.

:00:09. > :01:36.Throughout the programme this morning we'll bring you the latest

:01:37. > :01:38.breaking news and developing stories - and, as always,

:01:39. > :01:45.A little later in the programme we'll speak to Olympic gold

:01:46. > :01:47.medallist Adam Peaty who keeps breaking world records in the pool

:01:48. > :01:50.and is on track to become one of the greatest swimmers

:01:51. > :01:55.If you've got a question for him - or would like to speak to him

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:02:02. > :02:04.Our top story today, recent unrest in English and Welsh

:02:05. > :02:06.jails is causing "grave concern", according to the Prison

:02:07. > :02:10.In an open letter, the President of the organisation said governors

:02:11. > :02:13.The letter comes after two days of unrest at The Mount

:02:14. > :02:21.There have been days of disorder at prisons Wiltshire

:02:22. > :02:23.and Hertfordshire where riot trained officers were deployed

:02:24. > :02:30.This past year has brought an average of 20 attacks a day

:02:31. > :02:35.on staff in prisons in England and Wales, following a decline

:02:36. > :02:38.in the number of prison officers over the past few years

:02:39. > :02:44.Now the President of Prison Governors' Association

:02:45. > :02:48.is publicly blaming the Government for what she calls a crisis in many

:02:49. > :02:52.jails and unacceptable stress and anxiety amongst workers.

:02:53. > :02:55.In an open letter to prison governors, Andrea Albutt says

:02:56. > :02:59.the State has failed to help them cope with population

:03:00. > :03:01.pressures in prison, having changed the way the prisons

:03:02. > :03:06.Ms Albutt says the Government's decision taken earlier this year

:03:07. > :03:11.to separate operational control of the prison system

:03:12. > :03:21.from responsibility for policy was madness, leaving a gaping hole

:03:22. > :03:26.The Ministry of Justice says it recognises the long-standing

:03:27. > :03:28.challenges facing prisons and that it's recruiting more officers.

:03:29. > :03:31.But with only 75 more in place since last year,

:03:32. > :03:37.Ms Albutt said recruitment remains in a critical condition.

:03:38. > :03:44.Dan Johnson is here. Dan, how bad is it?

:03:45. > :03:50.This letter makes clear that things are in a state of crisis. Had this

:03:51. > :03:54.is a really strongly worded letter to, it is an open letter, but

:03:55. > :03:57.directed at the Ministry of Justice highlighting what she feels they

:03:58. > :04:03.need to put right. She talks of a crisis. She says there is concerted

:04:04. > :04:07.indiscipline and a toxic mix that doesn't have a quick mix and the

:04:08. > :04:11.future looks we'll suffer more of the same. She says recruitment

:04:12. > :04:15.remains critical. She talks about the selection process which is

:04:16. > :04:19.allowing many unsuitable people through. She says the quality of

:04:20. > :04:22.training is poor and new recruits can add to the instability of

:04:23. > :04:26.prisons. She says she is devastated at the complete decline of our

:04:27. > :04:29.service and that is why, that would seem to be her explanation, for what

:04:30. > :04:35.we have seen repeated disorder during over the last couple of days.

:04:36. > :04:37.Repeated disorder at the Mount Prison and we have seen trouble at

:04:38. > :04:41.other prisons. There is widespread agreement that our prisons are in

:04:42. > :04:44.crisis and something needs to change. In response to the open

:04:45. > :04:49.letter, what are the Ministry of Justice saying? We have a statement

:04:50. > :04:53.from the Ministry of Justice. They've addressed the issue that

:04:54. > :04:55.Andrea Albutt highlighted about the new system they have put in place

:04:56. > :04:59.and the way they have split operational control with the way

:05:00. > :05:03.policy is set. They say that the creation of this new prison and

:05:04. > :05:06.Probation Service was designed to help create a professionalised front

:05:07. > :05:10.line service. They say they know that prisons have faced a number of

:05:11. > :05:14.long-standing challenges which is why they have taken action to boost

:05:15. > :05:20.prison officer numbers, but Andrea Albutt says that's not increasing

:05:21. > :05:23.quickly enough. They say they need a calm environment, but she is clear

:05:24. > :05:25.that's not happening at the minute. Dan, thank you very much indeed.

:05:26. > :05:27.We'll hear from the president of the Prison Governors

:05:28. > :05:34.If you work in a prison or have direct experience of them, we are

:05:35. > :05:37.really keen to hear from you this morning. Please get in touch.

:05:38. > :05:40.Ben Brown is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:05:41. > :05:45.The Duke of Edinburgh will carry out his final public engagement this

:05:46. > :05:47.afternoon before he retires from official royal duties.

:05:48. > :05:49.Prince Philip, who is 96-years-old, will attend a parade

:05:50. > :05:55.In May it was announced he would be retiring after spending more

:05:56. > :05:58.than six decades supporting the Queen as well as attending

:05:59. > :05:59.events for his own charities and organisations.

:06:00. > :06:07.Here's our royal correspondent, Nicholas Witchell.

:06:08. > :06:12.He has been a familiar and sometimes forthright feature of national life

:06:13. > :06:17.ever since his marriage to the then Princess Elizabeth in November 1947

:06:18. > :06:20.and although his robust approach to people and events has sometimes

:06:21. > :06:23.got him into trouble, few can criticise his devotion

:06:24. > :06:26.to royal duty, most often in support of the Queen, but also

:06:27. > :06:30.in pursuit of his own separate programme, supporting issues

:06:31. > :06:33.like the environment and the development of the awards

:06:34. > :06:35.programme for young people which he created and

:06:36. > :06:40.But this afternoon it will come to an end.

:06:41. > :06:44.The Duke, who was 96 in June, will attend his last solo

:06:45. > :06:46.engagement, a parade by the Royal Marines on the

:06:47. > :06:51.It's not a complete retirement from public life.

:06:52. > :06:59.The Duke may still accompany the Queen to certain events,

:07:00. > :07:01.but after more than 22,000 solo engagements and moe

:07:02. > :07:03.than 600 solo overseas visits since the Queen came

:07:04. > :07:06.to the throne, it does mark a significant moment both

:07:07. > :07:10.No longer will she have her husband at her side for most

:07:11. > :07:12.of her public appearances, other younger members

:07:13. > :07:14.of the Royal Family will take his place,

:07:15. > :07:17.as the self-declared leading plaque unveiler in the world finally takes

:07:18. > :07:29.A BBC investigation has found a growing shortfall in the number

:07:30. > :07:33.of beds needed to care for elderly people across the UK.

:07:34. > :07:36.By the end of next year, it's predicted that up to 3,000 people

:07:37. > :07:39.won't be able to find a place in a care home.

:07:40. > :07:41.The Association of Directors of Adult Social Services is calling

:07:42. > :07:45.for more money to be spent on nurses and carers so people can receive

:07:46. > :07:51.More than one million women in their early 60s are worse off

:07:52. > :07:57.financially as a result of the increase in the state pension

:07:58. > :08:04.The Institute for Fiscal Studies found that raising the age from 60

:08:05. > :08:08.to 63 was saving the Government ?5 billion a year.

:08:09. > :08:11.But those affected were losing more than ?30 a week on average.

:08:12. > :08:14.The Department for Work and Pensions says the changes are fair

:08:15. > :08:19.There are calls to renationalise probation services following a rise

:08:20. > :08:24.in the number of supervised offenders charged

:08:25. > :08:33.A total of 517 reviews were triggered in the last year

:08:34. > :08:35.after an offender on probation was charged with murder,

:08:36. > :08:45.manslaughter, rape or other serious offences.

:08:46. > :08:47.Three years ago the Government changed the way probation services

:08:48. > :08:50.were run in 2014, creating the National Probation Service

:08:51. > :08:52.to deal with high-risk offenders with the rest being supervised by 21

:08:53. > :08:53.new Community Rehabilitation Companies.

:08:54. > :08:56.The charity, Save the Children, says more than a million children

:08:57. > :09:00.in Yemen are at higher risk of dying from cholera.

:09:01. > :09:03.Two years of civil war has led to severe humanitarian crisis

:09:04. > :09:06.with the country on the brink of famine and nearly 500,000 people

:09:07. > :09:11.America is not seeking to invade North Korea

:09:12. > :09:13.or oust its leader Kim Jong-Un, according to its Secretary

:09:14. > :09:23.He was speaking after a senior Republican senator said

:09:24. > :09:25.that President Trump considered going to war as an option.

:09:26. > :09:29.Last week North Korea carried out a second test

:09:30. > :09:30.of an intercontinental ballistic missile in defiance

:09:31. > :09:37.Police looking for the missing airman, Corrie McKeague,

:09:38. > :09:40.say they're examining whether material found

:09:41. > :09:43.at an incinerator plant in Ipswich is linked to him.

:09:44. > :09:45.The 23-year-old was last seen near a bin loading bay

:09:46. > :09:49.following a night out in Suffolk last September.

:09:50. > :09:56.Police ended a 20-week search of a nearby landfill site last month.

:09:57. > :10:01.Kanye West's touring company is suing Lloyd's of London

:10:02. > :10:05.for nearly ?8 million over the rapper's cancelled gigs.

:10:06. > :10:09.Very Good Touring said in a legal document that the insurers have

:10:10. > :10:12.implied they can refuse to pay out by claiming his mental health issues

:10:13. > :10:20.West was forced to cancel the remaining 21 dates of his tour

:10:21. > :10:22.last year after falling ill and was treated at a psychiatric

:10:23. > :10:41.Well, that's a summary of our news. More from me at 9.30am.

:10:42. > :10:48.We will have more on the Kanye West story before 10am.

:10:49. > :10:50.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:10:51. > :10:53.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:10:54. > :10:56.Let's get some sport now with Katherine Downes.

:10:57. > :10:59.And, Kat, everyone's gearing up for the return of Usain Bolt

:11:00. > :11:05.Yes, sadly we have just a matter of days now, don't we, before we can

:11:06. > :11:08.refer to Usain Bolt as a forlter athlete. After the World

:11:09. > :11:12.Championships in London he will be retiring from the sport and what a

:11:13. > :11:20.legacy, he will leave. Eight Olympic gold medals and three world records

:11:21. > :11:25.including the 9.58 and here he is posing with his normal flamboyant

:11:26. > :11:29.personality. He said that he hopes that those world records will last

:11:30. > :11:33.for years and years to come so that he can boast to any future children

:11:34. > :11:37.that he may have that one day their dad was the greatest ever. He has

:11:38. > :11:41.been, hasn't he? Athletics and sport in general will lose its brightest

:11:42. > :11:46.star in decades once he bows out after the World Championships in

:11:47. > :11:53.London. A man who not only set records and won records, but stood

:11:54. > :11:58.as a beacon of integrity and honesty. The shadow of the problem

:11:59. > :12:07.of doping within its ranks and many of Bolt's sporting rivals have

:12:08. > :12:09.succumbed to that temptation, mo recently his team-mate, Nester

:12:10. > :12:16.Carter. He is appealing against that decision, but here is what Usain

:12:17. > :12:23.Bolt had to say about the threat of doping in his sport.

:12:24. > :12:28.We made changes and the sport pretty much hit rock bottom last season, a

:12:29. > :12:33.couple of seasons ago. Now it's moving forward. I think it's going

:12:34. > :12:37.in the right direction. As long as athletes understand, if they keep

:12:38. > :12:42.this up, the sport will die and they won't have a job. Hopefully the

:12:43. > :12:46.athlete also understand that and that they will help the sport move

:12:47. > :12:51.forward. Will he go out on a high? Wherever

:12:52. > :12:56.he races and whom ever he races, you want him to win. Six athletes have

:12:57. > :12:59.run faster than him over the 100 meters this year, but Bolt says he

:13:00. > :13:09.is still the greatest and he is ready to take on the world once

:13:10. > :13:12.again. I'm excited now. This is the moment I'm looking forward to. I

:13:13. > :13:17.think after the race, or during the race, then the emotioning will come

:13:18. > :13:23.out, it depends on how the crowd reacts. If there is 1,000 cheering,

:13:24. > :13:28.I will be happy, but they always find ways of get emotions out of

:13:29. > :13:33.you. Yes, it is the last race. I come in here focussed and ready to

:13:34. > :13:37.go as always. As I said over the years, I try not to put extra

:13:38. > :13:42.pressure on myself. I'm focussed on getting the job done and that's what

:13:43. > :13:44.I'm going to do. Usain Bolt gets his final World

:13:45. > :13:49.Championships under way on Friday and you will be able to see Sir Mo

:13:50. > :13:53.Farah in action on Friday as well in the 10,000 meters. So a big opening

:13:54. > :13:55.day of the World Championships. I'm looking forward to that.

:13:56. > :13:56.And, Kat, you've got some outstanding baseball

:13:57. > :14:09.They are spectacular. At a baseball game between the Cleveland Indians

:14:10. > :14:13.and the Boston Red Soc, look at this catch. Over the barrier from Austin

:14:14. > :14:18.Jackson. This has been talked about on the internet as the best catch

:14:19. > :14:22.ever in baseball. Let's look at it from another angle. That does count

:14:23. > :14:26.as a catch. You can see the official just checking that it counts. The

:14:27. > :14:31.rules are complicated, but it does count as a catch. Is it the best

:14:32. > :14:35.ever? I haven't seen anything better than that, Kat, I have to admit.

:14:36. > :14:39.That was incredible. Thank you very much. No problem.

:14:40. > :14:41.Only a month ago, this programme reported that the quality of care

:14:42. > :14:50.for the elderly in the UK was approaching a "tipping point."

:14:51. > :14:52.The care watchdog - the Care Quality Commission -

:14:53. > :14:55.said that a quarter of all care homes were not safe enough.

:14:56. > :14:57.Now new figures suggest there is also a huge shortfall

:14:58. > :15:01.The data commissioned by BBC Radio 4's You and Yours programme

:15:02. > :15:03.from property consultants JLL suggests that in nine years,

:15:04. > :15:05.the shortfall could be more than 70,000 beds,

:15:06. > :15:11.based on the expected growth of demand.

:15:12. > :15:14.Up to 3,000 elderly people won't be able to get beds in care

:15:15. > :15:17.homes because of growing demand by the end of next year.

:15:18. > :15:19.And it's already a problem for some now.

:15:20. > :15:21.We can speak to Catherine Bond, who's here with her

:15:22. > :15:29.It took Catherine's family seven months to find a space

:15:30. > :15:31.in a care home for her mother Elizabeth, who is 93.

:15:32. > :15:34.Amanda Waring cared for her parents in her own home,

:15:35. > :15:36.and wrote a book called The Carer's Bible.

:15:37. > :15:39.She thinks we need to face up to the reality that in the future

:15:40. > :15:44.we'll need to look after the elderly more in our own homes.

:15:45. > :15:52.Her aunt - seen here on her 90th birthday - and her cousin

:15:53. > :15:56.both live in a care home in Bradford which is closing down.

:15:57. > :16:07.And in our Salford studio is Ryan Godwin who owns

:16:08. > :16:15.Welcome to the programme. Catherine, let's start with you. Why did it

:16:16. > :16:19.take seven months? My mother had been living with us. She was

:16:20. > :16:24.diagnosed with vascular dementia in 2012, so she moved to our home in

:16:25. > :16:28.East London, from outside of the capital, so a completely new part of

:16:29. > :16:40.the country for her. So we took it on ourselves to look after her, but

:16:41. > :16:44.in 2016, early 2016, she came down with pneumonia and was admitted to

:16:45. > :16:51.our local hospital, and essentially she was there for six months. She

:16:52. > :16:55.was what I would describe as bed blocking, and during that time I was

:16:56. > :17:00.campaigning to get a better care package for her, because she had

:17:01. > :17:03.been receiving social services package from our local authority,

:17:04. > :17:08.which had its shortfalls, and clearly it was very challenging for

:17:09. > :17:12.our family, particularly for my children, having carers coming into

:17:13. > :17:17.our home, it felt like an institution rather than a family

:17:18. > :17:25.home after a while. Your mother Elizabeth, 93, was in hospital for

:17:26. > :17:27.six months? That's right. Bed blocking, as you call it, because I

:17:28. > :17:31.care home, a bed, wasn't available? It was to do really with the inertia

:17:32. > :17:35.of the services. We were campaigning to try to get her a better package.

:17:36. > :17:39.In the beginning we didn't know whether she would be coming back to

:17:40. > :17:43.our home whether we would be able to get an alternative. What we did

:17:44. > :17:48.know, during the time she was in hospital, she was only six, I would

:17:49. > :17:55.say, for four weeks. In that time she lost the ability to walk, she

:17:56. > :18:03.was losing her cognitive skills. She was not eating properly. Why? The

:18:04. > :18:08.resources unfortunately were not there. It is not only the NHS, but

:18:09. > :18:15.also the fact that a lot of agency staff, there is a very high turnover

:18:16. > :18:19.of staff, so there was very little consistency, and physiotherapists

:18:20. > :18:23.were not able to engage with her. As her daughter, living locally, I was

:18:24. > :18:27.trying to liaise with them, perhaps to even help out with sessions, but

:18:28. > :18:30.it just wasn't happening so she lost the ability to do many things, which

:18:31. > :18:37.meant she no longer could have the package she had had before. For

:18:38. > :18:42.example, she couldn't get out of bed without two people helping her. She

:18:43. > :18:47.needed more help eating, she needed total help dressing and washing,

:18:48. > :18:51.which meant our home, which is just a normal family home, we didn't have

:18:52. > :18:55.the capacity in terms of space, layout, facilities, to look after

:18:56. > :19:00.her. Sushi was in a worse state when she came home from hospital after

:19:01. > :19:05.six months? -- so she was in a worse state. Absolutely. As part of my

:19:06. > :19:09.campaigning to get better care, I ask the palliative care team to look

:19:10. > :19:16.at her condition. What was a real problem for us, we never really knew

:19:17. > :19:19.how my mother's illness was progressing. Essentially, dementia

:19:20. > :19:24.is a terminal illness. We had very little support from our GP, very

:19:25. > :19:28.little support from the elderly care consultants in our local hospital

:19:29. > :19:33.before she was admitted to hospital or during that time. So apart from

:19:34. > :19:37.the reading it I could do, perhaps reading books, maybe the Internet,

:19:38. > :19:41.or talking to friends or colleagues with similar experiences, there was

:19:42. > :19:46.very little knowledge that I had and it was very hard. My two children

:19:47. > :19:51.are here today I have a younger son as well and he was four. And I

:19:52. > :19:54.quickly ask you, Beatrice and Sam, what was it like having your

:19:55. > :19:58.grandmother with you for that ten? I don't think it was very nice,

:19:59. > :20:03.especially because at home there were so many issues around the

:20:04. > :20:10.carers, lots of The Times in Ealing my parents were not with us, instead

:20:11. > :20:13.they were having to call up the agencies, call up health care who

:20:14. > :20:16.didn't really understand how to do their job properly, they had to sort

:20:17. > :20:19.out issues, for example where carers had not looked after my grandmother

:20:20. > :20:28.properly, had not on simple things I give her a proper meal, Tintera pad,

:20:29. > :20:32.properly -- changed her pad. Me and my brothers were almost just stuck

:20:33. > :20:35.in the middle of it and I know that my parents hate to think it but, and

:20:36. > :20:42.it isn't their fault at all, but because my parents had to spend so

:20:43. > :20:45.much time with my grandma and so much time trying to sort out all of

:20:46. > :20:52.these issues around her, we really didn't get the right amount of time

:20:53. > :20:55.with them when she was with us. Some people might think, Catherine, isn't

:20:56. > :20:59.that what we are supposed to be doing, looking after our parents,

:21:00. > :21:05.grandparents? That was my instinctive reaction. My mother was

:21:06. > :21:07.a very capable lady until she was 87, living independently. She told

:21:08. > :21:12.me she wanted to stay in her home. That could not happen because she

:21:13. > :21:16.lived 60 miles from us and I am actually her only daughter. It was

:21:17. > :21:24.just my instinct for me to take her in, as she had done for me as a

:21:25. > :21:25.child. I will just bring in Sue. Thank you for joining us this

:21:26. > :21:25.morning. Your 90-year-old aunt,

:21:26. > :21:27.and your cousin who has early onset dementia,

:21:28. > :21:29.are both in the same care home - but they're having to leave

:21:30. > :21:36.because it's closing. Well, essentially, it is money.

:21:37. > :21:42.Bradford Council did not make any secret of the fact that they could

:21:43. > :21:49.no longer afford to fund a care home. We went through an extensive

:21:50. > :21:54.consultation period, and quite a number of us who all have loved ones

:21:55. > :21:59.in the same care home got together and we established an action group.

:22:00. > :22:05.And we fought it and thought it, but I end of the day sadly Bradford

:22:06. > :22:09.Council still made the decision to close the home, in spite of the fact

:22:10. > :22:17.that we made several other offers, as a way of trying to keep the home

:22:18. > :22:23.open, at least until the end of our loved ones' lives. What will you do,

:22:24. > :22:29.Sue, what happens next? My aunty and my cousin have found alternative

:22:30. > :22:35.care homes. And in theory, you know, we should be able to sit back and

:22:36. > :22:38.relax knowing they will be safe in another care home, but actually in

:22:39. > :22:42.reality this is where our worries really begin, because we don't know

:22:43. > :22:46.how our loved ones are going to cope with this major change in their

:22:47. > :22:52.life, because where they lived at home view it really was their home,

:22:53. > :22:58.not just a care home. It was rated good by the CQC, and the staff

:22:59. > :23:05.there, they really cared. They were trained, they had the expertise to

:23:06. > :23:10.deal with dementia patients. And, you know, our loved ones don't

:23:11. > :23:13.understand, they are not going to be able to comprehend why they have got

:23:14. > :23:19.to move, and they have now got to somehow cope, and we, the loved

:23:20. > :23:29.ones, are sort of sitting here just wondering what impact is going to be

:23:30. > :23:35.on my cousin and my auntie, because none of us know. And from research

:23:36. > :23:38.we know there are risks in terms of physical and mental health to older

:23:39. > :23:42.people when they are moved from one care home to another. Sue, let's

:23:43. > :23:48.speak to Ryan. You have owned and run a care home for many years. What

:23:49. > :23:51.is the biggest challenge facing? Firstly, I would like to say I am

:23:52. > :23:56.really sorry to hear about the experiences of the previous callers.

:23:57. > :24:01.Because that is something which I think should concern us all. But I

:24:02. > :24:07.think the biggest challenges we face, and this has been pointed out

:24:08. > :24:12.really, are ones of funding, an ongoing problem. And it is blighting

:24:13. > :24:15.people's ability to maintain the status of the industry. And I think

:24:16. > :24:22.it is affecting the quality of care, and very sadly it seems, from what

:24:23. > :24:25.has been said already on the programme, it is actually affecting

:24:26. > :24:29.the sustainability of care homes going forward. Is there also a

:24:30. > :24:33.problem with recruitment and getting people to work in that industry,

:24:34. > :24:39.when in terms of reputation it has taken a bit of a battering? Am

:24:40. > :24:43.afraid this is something we see. People come to me, to place their

:24:44. > :24:48.parents into caring now, and that sad time can come, in any of our

:24:49. > :24:51.lives, and they look at me was almost fear and trepidation in their

:24:52. > :24:55.eyes, because of course they are hearing so many perhaps negative

:24:56. > :24:59.stories of people having negative experiences, and it is making people

:25:00. > :25:03.very unhappy about having to make that choice to place someone, their

:25:04. > :25:07.loved one, into a care environment, for example. According to the

:25:08. > :25:11.figures, one in 20 care homes closed in the last three years. Can you

:25:12. > :25:19.explain why so many care homes are struggling to survive? Is it as

:25:20. > :25:22.simple as money and funding? There is a greater expectation, quite

:25:23. > :25:27.rightly, that the quality of care we offer people, particularly

:25:28. > :25:31.surrounding the end of their life experience, which means that a lot

:25:32. > :25:37.more input is needed and has to be needed to get a better outcome for

:25:38. > :25:41.the people for whom we are caring, and that involves greater expense.

:25:42. > :25:47.There is a great emphasis today on providing stimulating activities,

:25:48. > :25:51.for people living in care homes so they can live well with their

:25:52. > :25:57.dementia, but live well with it, and get good outcomes. Unfortunately,

:25:58. > :26:01.all of these things cost money. And the funding is not there to pay

:26:02. > :26:04.for this. Also, what is very important for you to try to

:26:05. > :26:11.understand, the banks are stopping lending money to people who might

:26:12. > :26:14.want to buy a care home, so there is a generation of people who own care

:26:15. > :26:19.homes today working on ancient traditional goodwill, built up

:26:20. > :26:22.perhaps over years, and the fact it has been in the family for a number

:26:23. > :26:26.of years, if there is no want to pass on the care home too, of course

:26:27. > :26:32.when it comes to the end of their business life, which catches up with

:26:33. > :26:36.all of us, when I go to care meetings, I am a youngster

:26:37. > :26:40.amongst... You know, I feel like a teenager again, and when people come

:26:41. > :26:43.to retire, of course they are selling the care home and it is no

:26:44. > :26:48.longer a care home but turning into, you know, a car park are block of

:26:49. > :26:53.flats. OK, I will read out some messages that have come in. Martin

:26:54. > :26:57.from Swindon has e-mailed us. "The Reasons why our care homes are in

:26:58. > :27:01.crisis is because of savage cuts in funding by the Government since 2010

:27:02. > :27:06.as the problem with conservatism is you eventually run out of other

:27:07. > :27:12.people's money." A solicitor has sent in this tweet. "Hearing about

:27:13. > :27:15.the tipping point for our elderly and most vulnerable is sadly

:27:16. > :27:21.something I hear about from my clients every day." You have written

:27:22. > :27:24.a book, Amanda, The Carer's Bible, and as we are hearing residential

:27:25. > :27:30.care places are increasingly difficult to find, and a shortfall

:27:31. > :27:36.predicted. Is this something more of us should expect in the future? It

:27:37. > :27:39.is, and like you said it is that feeling of loving care, the love you

:27:40. > :27:47.have been given or perhaps not been given, as a society we will have to

:27:48. > :27:50.look at how we generate compassionate care for all ages, and

:27:51. > :27:54.I think at the moment elders have been seen as a separate entity, as

:27:55. > :27:58.opposed to understanding that we all hold the seat of the older person we

:27:59. > :28:03.are going to become right now. You know, there is no difference -- we

:28:04. > :28:07.all hold the seed of the older person we are going to become. We

:28:08. > :28:11.need to try to understand that. How do we regenerate compassion?

:28:12. > :28:14.Haddioui inspire new carers like these beautiful young guys here to

:28:15. > :28:19.actually want to go into care? Because to care for somebody in your

:28:20. > :28:25.own home, took care for somebody until the point of dying, it is

:28:26. > :28:27.challenging but it is so rewarding, and so healing, allowing us to

:28:28. > :28:36.connect with something in ourselves we might never have had the

:28:37. > :28:39.opportunity to do. In an ideal world, that sounds great. We would

:28:40. > :28:41.love to be able to look after our parents in their old age, but

:28:42. > :28:44.practically for a lot of people it is not possible. They may not have

:28:45. > :28:47.the space, the facilities, and the time, they may live too far away.

:28:48. > :28:50.Absolutely, and this is why we need to look at other situations. In

:28:51. > :28:55.Holland they are looking at places where they have elders living with

:28:56. > :28:57.university students, and that combined, really don't have

:28:58. > :29:05.terrifyingly difficult leads, but there is enough, with that

:29:06. > :29:09.loneliness, the support -- terrifying the difficult needs, but

:29:10. > :29:13.there is enough support. With a whole, other people around them

:29:14. > :29:16.supporting them. We will have to look at different paradigms around

:29:17. > :29:23.care homes if care homes are now not going to be funded and worked in the

:29:24. > :29:26.same way. But while doing it well they're not be another crisis point

:29:27. > :29:30.being delayed, children later in life, with that problem where

:29:31. > :29:34.families having to look after young children will have to look after old

:29:35. > :29:37.appearance at the same time? That is that thing with the sandwich

:29:38. > :29:44.generation and is exactly what I had with my dad, being a single mum,

:29:45. > :29:46.left in tears, thinking, I can't cope, because my father was too

:29:47. > :29:50.violent and aggressive to go into any care setting so I was left in

:29:51. > :29:56.that middle ground, so I do understand that and that is why I

:29:57. > :29:59.suppose our passion, writing about ways to support, because if you are

:30:00. > :30:02.looking after a loved one in your home, you need all that emotional

:30:03. > :30:07.support, and people need to know what it takes to go through that and

:30:08. > :30:11.how to deliver the most best loving heartfelt care, because it is not

:30:12. > :30:17.just pie in the sky. We are talking about a personal possibility for the

:30:18. > :30:22.future for all of us. Catherine, can you cut back on that -- they want to

:30:23. > :30:26.come back on? I can only agree. Absolutely. I have never felt so

:30:27. > :30:30.middle-aged in my life. I am absolutely in the middle. My mother

:30:31. > :30:34.had me quite late, when she was 41, and I feel very blessed she is still

:30:35. > :30:37.with us, but we have had the emotional challenges, the logistics.

:30:38. > :30:40.I have been pretty much working full-time for all of this. My

:30:41. > :30:45.husband actually took some time out and became my mother's official

:30:46. > :30:49.carer will she was with us but it did have a cost on our family. We

:30:50. > :30:52.look for support outside the family home, got some support from the

:30:53. > :30:54.old-timers society, and there was no support relief from our local

:30:55. > :31:17.authority. -- the society. If she was a McIlorum she

:31:18. > :31:21.was in my mother would have had a very different experience. We were

:31:22. > :31:25.very fortunate to have in the -- if my mother had been in the care home

:31:26. > :31:28.at this point she would have had a different experience. The funding

:31:29. > :31:34.situation that has been talked about, it is very different.

:31:35. > :31:37.Different in a local authority or NHS care on and it is different in a

:31:38. > :31:41.privately run care. Thank you. We will have to leave it there. But

:31:42. > :31:45.good to end on a positive note. Thank you all for sharing your

:31:46. > :31:53.stories with us, and please shares your s as well. You can get in touch

:31:54. > :31:55.on the usual ways. The number

:31:56. > :31:58.of offenders who commit serious crimes like murder and rape

:31:59. > :32:01.whilst on probation has risen by 25% since parts of the probation service

:32:02. > :32:03.were privatised three years ago. So is there a link?

:32:04. > :32:13.We'll try and find out. The latest Newsbeat documentary

:32:14. > :32:15.looks at children whose parents tell them they are gay. We will look at

:32:16. > :32:18.the impact on families. Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

:32:19. > :32:22.with a summary of today's news. The President of the Prison

:32:23. > :32:27.Governors Association has attacked the government over its management

:32:28. > :32:30.of prisons in England and Wales. Andrea Albutt said

:32:31. > :32:32.members had been left "devastated" at what she called

:32:33. > :32:34."the complete decline The Ministry of Justice says it's

:32:35. > :32:37.dealing with long-term There are calls to renationalise

:32:38. > :32:44.probation services following a rise in the number of supervised

:32:45. > :32:46.offenders charged 517 reviews were triggered

:32:47. > :32:50.in the past year after an offender on probation

:32:51. > :32:52.was charged with murder, manslaughter, rape or

:32:53. > :32:57.other serious offences. The Duke of Edinburgh will carry

:32:58. > :33:00.out his final public engagement this afternoon before

:33:01. > :33:02.he retires from royal duty. Prince Philip, who is 96,

:33:03. > :33:05.will attend a parade by the Royal Marines,

:33:06. > :33:07.just two months after it was announced he'd be stepping

:33:08. > :33:09.aside from public life. A BBC investigation has found

:33:10. > :33:13.a growing shortfall in the number of beds needed to care

:33:14. > :33:15.for elderly people. By the end of next year it's

:33:16. > :33:18.predicted that up to 3,000 people won't be able to find a place

:33:19. > :33:21.in a care home. The Association of Directors

:33:22. > :33:23.of Adult Social Services is calling for more money to be spent on nurses

:33:24. > :33:27.and carers - so people can receive That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:28. > :33:38.News - more at 10am. We have had abe-mail from Gerry. He

:33:39. > :33:41.says, "I have served ten years in prison and have seen and understand

:33:42. > :33:46.the problem of staff shortages. The dangers of drugs, violence and

:33:47. > :33:50.suicide is a terrible price to pay for cutbacks." If you work in a

:33:51. > :33:51.prison and know what it's like, please get in touch and share your

:33:52. > :33:53.experiences with us. Here's some sport now

:33:54. > :33:57.with Katherine Downes. One of sports biggest stars,

:33:58. > :34:01.Usain Bolt, has issued a stark warning ahead of the final races

:34:02. > :34:04.of his career. The eight-time Olympic

:34:05. > :34:05.champion will retire after the World Championships

:34:06. > :34:08.in London which begin this weekend, has told the BBC that athletics

:34:09. > :34:10."will die" if doping England goalkeeper Karen Bardsley

:34:11. > :34:14.will miss the rest of Women's Euro 2017 after breaking her leg

:34:15. > :34:16.in Sunday's quarter-final Siobhan Chamberlain is now likely

:34:17. > :34:22.to step in to face the Netherlands There's another injury scare

:34:23. > :34:27.for Daniel Sturridge. The Liverpool striker scored,

:34:28. > :34:31.but then went off injured in a pre-season friendly

:34:32. > :34:36.against Bayern Munich in Germany. Manager Jurgen Klopp says he hopes

:34:37. > :34:38."it is isn't serious". And Barcelona

:34:39. > :34:40.have given Neymar permission to miss training today and has been told

:34:41. > :34:43.to "sort out his future". A rumoured ?198 million move

:34:44. > :34:46.to Paris St Germain looks Next, coming out to

:34:47. > :34:57.your children as gay. Around 20,000 kids are thought

:34:58. > :35:00.to live with gay parents, many of whom were originally

:35:01. > :35:03.in straight relationships. So what's it like when a parent

:35:04. > :35:06.tells you they're gay? Well, Jillian Stewart was just four

:35:07. > :35:09.years old when her mum It's not something she remembers

:35:10. > :35:13.very well, but she's aware of the impact it had

:35:14. > :35:15.on her older siblings. So, 20 years on, she's been speaking

:35:16. > :35:19.to her two Mums and brother and sisters about what it's

:35:20. > :35:22.like when parents come It's part of Newsbeat's latest

:35:23. > :35:29.documentary My Lesbian Mums. You could try my new drink, organic,

:35:30. > :35:51.it's very good for you. This is the house where

:35:52. > :35:55.our family grew up. My mum moved in here

:35:56. > :35:57.with Gerry 17 years ago. With Gerry, came three

:35:58. > :36:00.big sisters for me. Here we have some pictures of me

:36:01. > :36:16.and my brother Jamie This is the picture of us posting

:36:17. > :36:20.appeared because my mum always tried to make as people happy

:36:21. > :36:22.and smiling together. Poor Jamie, he was the only boy

:36:23. > :36:25.in the house apart from Rupert So I think I'm going to start my

:36:26. > :36:30.journey of by speaking to him. I think it will be quite interesting

:36:31. > :36:33.to see from a male perspective I think I was eight and I remember

:36:34. > :36:44.Gerry coming over to the house quite a lot and Elaine being there,

:36:45. > :36:47.playing football with her Then obviously, mum and dad split up

:36:48. > :36:58.and then it was, OK. I feel like you always just find

:36:59. > :37:06.the funny side of things, you make a joke of things and not

:37:07. > :37:08.get sad or anything. I always look on the bright side

:37:09. > :37:13.of life, as they say. What was that card you got mum, was

:37:14. > :37:16.it for her birthday or something? Terrible, terrible

:37:17. > :37:23.joke when I look back. 14-year-old me found it hilarious,

:37:24. > :37:28.but 28-year-old me, not so much. Something I would tell all my

:37:29. > :37:31.friends about you, the yearbook. More mummies than

:37:32. > :37:34.an Egyptian pyramid. There's no point in

:37:35. > :37:45.letting it get to you. I don't think I remember anybody

:37:46. > :37:48.staring at us when we went out. We were so oblivious

:37:49. > :37:52.to that sort of thing I was just there for the food.

:37:53. > :37:57.A free dinner, you can't beat it. NO, I don't remember hearing any

:37:58. > :38:02.whispers or any comments. There was no looking around,

:38:03. > :38:11.or there was anyone watching us, Let's go out for dinner,

:38:12. > :38:17.let's not care what people think. I also really liked how mum

:38:18. > :38:20.and Gerry just held hands and didn't I feel like there's not

:38:21. > :38:25.enough people doing that. If you are expecting me

:38:26. > :38:29.to hold your hand right now, I know what you mean,

:38:30. > :38:38.I think I've started seeing more people who have come out,

:38:39. > :38:39.whatever, holding hands, Yeah, but back then

:38:40. > :38:44.it was in such a big thing. What would your response be

:38:45. > :38:49.to people who don't agree with the way that

:38:50. > :38:51.we've been brought up? Why take the time out

:38:52. > :38:53.to sort of chastise I mean, we wouldn't do

:38:54. > :39:07.that to other people. And we've been dead lucky

:39:08. > :39:10.in the sense that nobody Yes.

:39:11. > :39:12.Definitely. There should be more love

:39:13. > :39:16.in the world, not any more hating. I think Jamie found it

:39:17. > :39:23.easier because he had He was confident enough to say

:39:24. > :39:30.in his first introduction, There are four years

:39:31. > :39:34.between Jamie and me, maybe being the youngest

:39:35. > :39:50.made it easier. Elaine is a really

:39:51. > :39:53.cool sister to have. She's a singer

:39:54. > :39:54.and writes her own music. But being a few years older

:39:55. > :39:57.than Jamie, she might remember our two families coming

:39:58. > :40:00.together in more detail than we do. Do you remember your

:40:01. > :40:04.mum coming out to you? I was sitting in the living room

:40:05. > :40:09.and there was a card sitting on the couch from Susan to my mum

:40:10. > :40:12.saying how much she loved her, And I was hysterical,

:40:13. > :40:20.because complete news to me. I can remember exactly

:40:21. > :40:22.what I was upset about, it turned out I was the last person

:40:23. > :40:26.to know as well. And all her friends

:40:27. > :40:28.were actually girl friends. I just remember that day,

:40:29. > :40:33.finding out and I remember being in my school uniform

:40:34. > :40:36.and I remember sitting on the couch. I think with you it was

:40:37. > :40:40.probably a friend thing, I was so young, I was

:40:41. > :40:48.just kind of like, OK. That's the difference,

:40:49. > :40:50.if you are tiny, you can We don't understand

:40:51. > :40:53.what the differences. They love each other and that's

:40:54. > :40:56.all you need to know. It's interesting to hear

:40:57. > :40:58.how different it is for That's just because society made me

:40:59. > :41:06.believe that was such a bad thing and that's kind of the last thing

:41:07. > :41:09.I remember about it, Elaine was a bit upset

:41:10. > :41:17.when she realised, because she was a little bit older

:41:18. > :41:21.and I think it was just... I think she felt as though I should

:41:22. > :41:24.have told her earlier, so you can't always get

:41:25. > :41:26.the timing right. I do regret that I hadn't

:41:27. > :41:36.told her sooner, more explicitly. But we're fine with that now,

:41:37. > :41:39.but it has taken time. How do you know when the timing

:41:40. > :41:46.is right for each individual person? But Elaine had more to deal

:41:47. > :41:49.with than just her mum One of her sisters came out

:41:50. > :41:54.when she was a teenager. Marie wasn't able to take part

:41:55. > :41:59.in this documentary. I thought I knew about my sister

:42:00. > :42:02.being a lesbian before I found out about my mum and I was totally

:42:03. > :42:08.fine with that. For some reason it was a bigger deal

:42:09. > :42:12.because it was my mum. Awful, it was just constantly

:42:13. > :42:22.being reminded of, just walking down the halls and people shouting,

:42:23. > :42:24."Your sister's a bean". I would just keep walking,

:42:25. > :42:28.it was constant. I don't think I told anyone

:42:29. > :42:30.about my mum and Susan, apart from my close friends

:42:31. > :42:33.because I got so much abuse Yeah, why would you even put

:42:34. > :42:37.yourself through that? I didn't talk to anybody

:42:38. > :42:38.about anything. I just couldn't talk

:42:39. > :42:40.to people generally. Do you think that's

:42:41. > :42:43.why you were so shy? Yeah, because I just feel

:42:44. > :43:03.like I lost every bit of confidence. Let's talk about something happy.

:43:04. > :43:05.I know, it's hard. Yeah, I think everything changes

:43:06. > :43:18.when you leave school, I didn't realise how

:43:19. > :43:27.hard it was for you. Because we were at different points

:43:28. > :43:31.in our life back them. It's probably quite good to show

:43:32. > :43:34.that's how you actually felt No, it wasn't all happy,

:43:35. > :43:41.but I wish I could talk about things without crying because then you can

:43:42. > :43:44.actually say them out loud. Elaine struggled a lot more

:43:45. > :43:50.than I did and it's clear there's not one right way

:43:51. > :43:52.to tell your children. It must have been tough on our mums

:43:53. > :43:55.though, all five of us were at different stages

:43:56. > :43:57.of our lives. It was about each of them

:43:58. > :44:06.individually and getting time with them and feeling

:44:07. > :44:08.that the timing was right. For me, my fear was that

:44:09. > :44:14.the children would be bullied. My two tell me that they didn't

:44:15. > :44:19.face anything like that. That they felt totally

:44:20. > :44:21.accepted and that our family Although Gillian and recently told

:44:22. > :44:27.us that there were some remarks from schoolmates about having two

:44:28. > :44:29.lesbian mothers and So I think at the time,

:44:30. > :44:35.she probably was protecting us, to some extent, although we didn't

:44:36. > :44:41.know about that. Although people will say to us, "Oh,

:44:42. > :44:44.it's easy for gay couples now, compared to what it used to be,

:44:45. > :44:47.you are totally accepted". Because there are still a lot

:44:48. > :44:52.of parts of society across the world that, where it is illegal

:44:53. > :44:55.in different countries still, or even in this country,

:44:56. > :45:02.if you belong to a particularly religious group, whatever background

:45:03. > :45:05.that might be and I'm not pointing the finger at one or another,

:45:06. > :45:08.that might say that our I've had some horrendous

:45:09. > :45:11.stuff on social media. Yes, being called an abomination

:45:12. > :45:20.and other names like that. You don't know me, you don't know us

:45:21. > :45:23.and our wonderful family because every single one of those

:45:24. > :45:30.kids are wonderful and a bonus, they're a gift to society

:45:31. > :45:32.and the world, every single And one of them, my elder sister

:45:33. > :45:46.Ann, is running a successful Let's get a taxi to go and see Ann,

:45:47. > :45:52.and I cannot wait to see her. So what do any sisters do

:45:53. > :45:56.when they've not seen I never lived with her

:45:57. > :46:07.because she was at university We rarely talk about the time before

:46:08. > :46:11.we were just one family, but it's so hot, so time

:46:12. > :46:13.for some rooftop drinking. I see that absolutely

:46:14. > :46:15.anything is possible. I think it would be different

:46:16. > :46:19.if people were horrible to me, or if I was bullied because of it

:46:20. > :46:30.or I felt different. No - because I think I was 17, 18,

:46:31. > :46:33.I was at university. It was actually kind of cool

:46:34. > :46:39.to have lesbian parents. And it's like the whole time

:46:40. > :46:41.of Friends and Ross. And I was like, hey,

:46:42. > :46:48.my new mum's called Susan too. I think for my mum as well,

:46:49. > :46:50.for having such young children, I think that would have been really

:46:51. > :46:53.hard for her. Because you don't know

:46:54. > :46:58.what fears are in your head So you don't know if legally

:46:59. > :47:05.you can lose your children, What is the school

:47:06. > :47:08.system going to say? Massive respect for them to have

:47:09. > :47:14.done what they did back then. Yeah, because they really

:47:15. > :47:19.were the first, there was no around to support them,

:47:20. > :47:21.but then it's the kind of strength of the relationship

:47:22. > :47:24.in that they managed it together. A lot of people wouldn't have been

:47:25. > :47:28.able to survive that, I don't think. Elaine definitely has

:47:29. > :47:37.struggled through school, I think she's actually

:47:38. > :47:50.quite emotionally traumatised by what happened

:47:51. > :47:52.to her in school. I don't think it was necessarily

:47:53. > :47:56.about having two mums. She said that she never actually

:47:57. > :47:58.told anyone in school because of how people reacted

:47:59. > :48:01.to her sister coming out. It was clearly a very

:48:02. > :48:05.unhappy time for her. I'm obviously understanding more

:48:06. > :48:07.about it now, but where And she's so beautiful,

:48:08. > :48:16.and creative. Our biggest fear was losing our

:48:17. > :48:24.children because we were lesbians. But the general consensus

:48:25. > :48:29.from all the children Us coming out and being together

:48:30. > :48:42.is not the way the book And as a parent, that was the only

:48:43. > :48:54.thing that we could do and give So, even if that was hard

:48:55. > :48:58.at times, it was worth it. The full version of My Lesbian Mums

:48:59. > :49:11.is available on BBC iPlayer. In it Jillian finds out what it's

:49:12. > :49:14.like for parents coming out to their children in 2017

:49:15. > :49:21.and whether or not parents still have the fears

:49:22. > :49:27.as her mums did 20 years ago. There are calls for the Government

:49:28. > :49:29.to renationalise probation services following what's described

:49:30. > :49:32.as an "extremely worrying" rise in the number of supervised offenders

:49:33. > :49:36.charged with serious crimes. Figures show an increase of 25%

:49:37. > :49:39.in the number of offenders under probation committing serious

:49:40. > :49:41.offences - including murder, Reforms introduced in 2014 saw

:49:42. > :49:44.private firms take over the management of some low

:49:45. > :49:53.and medium risk offenders. So is there a link between the rise

:49:54. > :50:00.in crime and partial privatisation? With us in the studio

:50:01. > :50:17.is Ian Lawrence who is the general secretary of NAPO, the national

:50:18. > :50:19.association of parole officers. Bob Turney a former

:50:20. > :50:21.offender who later became Matt Illic who works for the charity

:50:22. > :50:25.and social business Catch 22 - Also, from Cardiff we can speak

:50:26. > :50:33.to Nadine Marshall whose son Conner Welcome to the programme. Ian, let's

:50:34. > :50:35.start with you. Did you see this coming? Our members, in the

:50:36. > :50:37.probation Association, and the trade union as well, so our members are

:50:38. > :50:40.working under appalling conditions as a result of privatisation and

:50:41. > :50:45.they saw that a long time ago. We told ministers of that fact, we

:50:46. > :50:48.submitted evidence to Parliament. We were among 500 organisations that

:50:49. > :50:54.foretold problems with the privatisation. It is easy to make

:50:55. > :50:57.the link between serious further offences, and our hearts go out all

:50:58. > :51:02.the victims of those crimes, you have to look deeper than the figures

:51:03. > :51:05.and at the operational models the Government has allowed to come into

:51:06. > :51:09.play, by some private contractors, and there have been countless

:51:10. > :51:12.reports from Her Majesty's inspectorate that they are not fit

:51:13. > :51:18.for purpose in many cases. Let me read you the Ministry of Justice

:51:19. > :51:21.statement. "In 2014 we reformed our approach to privation." So for the

:51:22. > :51:27.first time ever all offenders are given a custodial sentence, received

:51:28. > :51:32.privation support and supervision on release. "It Is therefore misleading

:51:33. > :51:36.to compare the number of serious further offences prior to our

:51:37. > :51:39.reforms with subsequent figures, as the number of people on probation is

:51:40. > :51:45.now significantly higher than before." What is your response? They

:51:46. > :51:48.would say that, wouldn't they? They did not reference the fact that the

:51:49. > :51:54.inspectorate has described the system as non-effective, except for

:51:55. > :52:02.putter-mac areas were some good work has been done, but that has

:52:03. > :52:06.manifestly failed -- except for a few areas. Now the Government has

:52:07. > :52:12.drawn ?22 million of taxpayers' cash at these. Our members are asking how

:52:13. > :52:17.it will make an actual difference -- the Government has thrown the ?22

:52:18. > :52:23.million. More offenders are committing war crimes on probation,

:52:24. > :52:25.because more offenders are under probation supervision, surely? You

:52:26. > :52:30.like you can look at it like that or also look at it as there are not as

:52:31. > :52:33.many people in the prison receiving the support where it counts as well

:52:34. > :52:36.as people in the community and that cannot be divorced from elsewhere.

:52:37. > :52:41.If the system is not helping people to gear up for a return to society,

:52:42. > :52:45.you will see more reoffending and serious offences. The reforms

:52:46. > :52:48.extended the supervision to everyone serving a sentence under 12 months,

:52:49. > :52:52.and that is the privatisation. Previously they were not supervised,

:52:53. > :53:01.so if they offended they would not be counted in those figures. So we

:53:02. > :53:03.are not comparing like-for-like. We said they should have been

:53:04. > :53:05.supervised by the probation service before privatisation but we were

:53:06. > :53:09.never given the money to do it. We never saw these people, as Bob will

:53:10. > :53:12.tell you shortly. So 40,000 people coming out into society with

:53:13. > :53:17.inadequate support and in many cases inadequate supervision as well.

:53:18. > :53:21.Matt, either benefits with privatisation, in your opinion, from

:53:22. > :53:25.your experience? To start with the figures, we work with 10,000 prison

:53:26. > :53:30.leaders in the final weeks of their custodial sentence and for us it is

:53:31. > :53:34.too early to say whether this programme has been a success or

:53:35. > :53:37.failure. The first and official statistics are due later this year

:53:38. > :53:41.and even the Government's National Audit Office says it is too early to

:53:42. > :53:47.score, but I think it is absolutely right there is public scrutiny on

:53:48. > :53:49.these issues. The report my colleague has talked about is

:53:50. > :53:54.welcome and I think there are significant problems in the system

:53:55. > :53:59.more widely. In terms of probation, privatisation, outsourcing, we would

:54:00. > :54:03.say that there is not a right or wrong as to who delivers public

:54:04. > :54:05.services, and we are a charity significantly involved. And actually

:54:06. > :54:09.some of the best performing probation systems are the world are

:54:10. > :54:14.voluntary. For example, the Japanese system, the probation system is made

:54:15. > :54:17.up of volunteers, some 50,000 people. The early version of our own

:54:18. > :54:21.probation system was volunteers. So I think there is not something

:54:22. > :54:24.intrinsic to privatisation that has led to a lot of these failures. You

:54:25. > :54:29.don't think renationalising that part of it will solve the problem

:54:30. > :54:32.necessarily? Exactly. There were issues with probation before and I

:54:33. > :54:36.think we have significant structural problems at the moment, both in

:54:37. > :54:37.prisons and with probation, and I think the more public scrutiny and

:54:38. > :54:55.pressure there is an government what the real issues have

:54:56. > :54:57.been in the operating model and in the resource of this, that is the

:54:58. > :54:59.really important debate to think about now as opposed to who is

:55:00. > :55:02.involved. Bob, you spend time going in and out of prison and probation

:55:03. > :55:05.worker helped to turn your life around and get your life together.

:55:06. > :55:08.What do they do? I was one of the short recipients. Serving a year or

:55:09. > :55:17.less, so I got a lot of supervision. You know, it stayed with me. We just

:55:18. > :55:20.used to passing them around now, but there was no relationship. In my

:55:21. > :55:24.time there was plenty of relationship and that is what

:55:25. > :55:26.happened. When I really did get my act together, she inspired me to go

:55:27. > :55:32.on to become a probation officer, because I knew it worked. But I

:55:33. > :55:39.jumped ship just as it was going to change over to be privatised. It is

:55:40. > :55:44.not the service when I went it in, that it was when I went in. When I

:55:45. > :55:49.went in, 20% of my time was spent writing about this offender, and 80%

:55:50. > :55:53.of the time working with the vendor. When I left it was completely

:55:54. > :55:58.reversed. 80% of my time was taken up writing reports -- working with

:55:59. > :56:02.the offender. And 20% spent working with the offender, and that is where

:56:03. > :56:06.it has lost, where it has fallen down. All right, you have serious

:56:07. > :56:12.offenders and sees teams looking after them, but the short time once

:56:13. > :56:17.the ones who take up a lot of time and energy, a lot of people ask me,

:56:18. > :56:21.what turned around your life? And I simply see, I stopped feeling sorry

:56:22. > :56:24.for myself and started feeling sorry for my victims, and that is what we

:56:25. > :56:29.were doing in probation, getting them to grow up and take response

:56:30. > :56:32.ability. Do you think, Bob, you would be in this position now if

:56:33. > :56:38.when you were dealing with probation officers you were dealing with a

:56:39. > :56:41.privatised system? I don't think so. I like to think that I would but I

:56:42. > :56:48.was getting a tremendous amount of support from my probation officer. A

:56:49. > :56:50.tremendous amount. Let me bring Nadine into the conversation. Can

:56:51. > :56:58.you tell us what happened to your son? Good morning. My son Connor was

:56:59. > :57:08.18 and he was in protocol for one night only in March 2015 and he was

:57:09. > :57:14.attacked from behind by a gentleman who I now know as David Bryden.

:57:15. > :57:20.Connor subsequently died of his injuries four days later and his

:57:21. > :57:29.attacker was charged with the murder. He has now been sentenced to

:57:30. > :57:36.20 years in prison. So your son was killed by a man who was on

:57:37. > :57:39.probation. What do you think about what we are hearing today, the link

:57:40. > :57:47.between serious crime and privatisation. To be honest, I am

:57:48. > :57:51.angered by the overall responses, whether from the panel or Government

:57:52. > :57:54.departments. Why are you angry? There is an awful lot of talk about

:57:55. > :57:58.re-offenders and the support given to them, however at the bottom of

:57:59. > :58:03.this you have to remember there are victims and victims' families. We

:58:04. > :58:07.don't have that luxury of any support. Any support we find, we

:58:08. > :58:13.have to go looking for it. And don't forget, on top of that you're in the

:58:14. > :58:16.midst of possibly a trial a police investigation, as well as the

:58:17. > :58:22.trauma, as well as the stresses of trying to keep you ship afloat, when

:58:23. > :58:26.the evidence is there that this system is just failing right from

:58:27. > :58:31.the very top down and it is not being disseminated in the way that

:58:32. > :58:36.it was supposedly made to transform these lives. What is your message?

:58:37. > :58:42.What would you like to happen now? I want change, I want support for

:58:43. > :58:49.families that are having to be included in this horrible offence of

:58:50. > :58:53.serious offence. I want legislation from the top. The system is not

:58:54. > :58:58.working. It is not fit for purpose at all and this was not the case in

:58:59. > :59:01.2013 and it isn't the case now. Nadine, thank you very much for

:59:02. > :59:03.speaking to us and thank you all as well.

:59:04. > :59:07.Let's get the latest weather update with Carol.

:59:08. > :59:14.Thank you. This morning has been a morning of mixed fortunes. Some

:59:15. > :59:17.sunshine, rain, chilly start in the north of Scotland, temperatures

:59:18. > :59:20.dipping into single figures and the temperatures are coming up quite

:59:21. > :59:24.nicely in the sunshine now. The rain spreading into the South and west is

:59:25. > :59:29.continuing to move northwards and will tend to fragment. Taking a look

:59:30. > :59:32.at some of our Weather Watcher pictures from around the country,

:59:33. > :59:38.you can see the rain we have had in Swanage, in Dorset, quite a lot,

:59:39. > :59:41.heavy in the Southern counties of England. Contrast that with East

:59:42. > :59:46.Yorkshire. Cloud around, but again dry, and the Highlands getting away

:59:47. > :59:50.with some sunshine. You will hang onto that for much of the day. This

:59:51. > :59:54.low pressure is driving our weather and it will continue to introduce

:59:55. > :59:57.more rain through the course of the day and you can see from the squeeze

:59:58. > :00:01.on the isobars, we're also looking at some windy conditions. Coastal

:00:02. > :00:05.gales across the south-west, the rain continuing across the Channel

:00:06. > :00:10.Islands and southern counties, and as it moves you will find it will

:00:11. > :00:14.fragment so that between the rain there will be a fair bit of cloudy

:00:15. > :00:18.time but also some sunny intervals. It will also be quite windy. This

:00:19. > :00:20.afternoon after the rain has gone through the south-west of England,

:00:21. > :00:25.there will be a hang back of cloud, but you will find in the wind that

:00:26. > :00:29.cloud will break up and we will start to see improved. Rain on and

:00:30. > :00:32.off across Wales, the same in north-western England. That rain

:00:33. > :00:41.continuing to drift into southern Scotland, but by then it will be out

:00:42. > :00:44.of Northern Ireland and you will have a return to sunshine, bright

:00:45. > :00:46.spells and showers. There is that rain careering towards the Highlands

:00:47. > :00:48.but the heavens themselves are staying dry and in some sunshine.

:00:49. > :00:50.Into north-east England and south-east Scotland, still some of

:00:51. > :00:54.that rain but then a lot of cloud is being pushed out into East Anglia.

:00:55. > :00:56.Then back into the rain again. Across the south-east corner,

:00:57. > :01:01.heading towards the Isle of Wight. To this evening and overnight, all

:01:02. > :01:05.that rain pushing in the direction of the North Sea. It will rejuvenate

:01:06. > :01:08.across the Channel Islands and the south-eastern quarter of England,

:01:09. > :01:14.follow the Crow Road and you can see it ensconced in northern Scotland

:01:15. > :01:23.and the Northern Isles. It will be a humid day and night, temperatures

:01:24. > :01:26.dipping to 11 to 15-16 degrees. Behind this you can see showers

:01:27. > :01:30.developing, some of those across Scotland and Northern Ireland will

:01:31. > :01:34.be heavy and sundry with some hail. You're as we pushed down towards the

:01:35. > :01:39.south of England. In the sunshine, out of the wind, 22 Celsius will

:01:40. > :01:42.feel quite pleasant. Into Friday, our low-pressure centres in the

:01:43. > :01:46.North Sea, all the show is coming around that, across Scotland, a few

:01:47. > :01:49.in Northern Ireland and England, and you might see a few for the South

:01:50. > :01:52.but generally the further east you travel, the better chance of staying

:01:53. > :01:56.dry with bright pleasant temperatures.

:01:57. > :01:58.I'm Tina Daheley in for Victoria Derbyshire.

:01:59. > :02:06.Governors say they are devastated by the complete decline

:02:07. > :02:11.One says hiring more prison staff had to be a priority.

:02:12. > :02:15.We need to have people so we can stabilise our prisons before we even

:02:16. > :02:18.start consider reforming them. One of the world's smallest babies

:02:19. > :02:32.who beat the odds to survive She fitted into our hand. So that's

:02:33. > :02:35.the size that she was. I was quite shocked when I saw her because I

:02:36. > :02:40.don't know what I thought she was going to look like, but she did just

:02:41. > :02:44.look like a baby and I wasn't expecting that and I remember

:02:45. > :02:49.thinking when I looked at her, she looks like a baby, just small.

:02:50. > :03:00.We will hear from Poppy's parents in the next half an hour.

:03:01. > :03:02.Adam Peaty has done the double, double.

:03:03. > :03:04.Also this hour - we'll be talking to British swimming champion

:03:05. > :03:06.Adam Peaty about his success at the world

:03:07. > :03:15.Adam Peaty will be live with us just after 10.30am. If you have got a

:03:16. > :03:20.question for him, please get in touch.

:03:21. > :03:24.Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:03:25. > :03:27.Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:03:28. > :03:30.Recent unrest in English and Welsh jails is causing "grave concern",

:03:31. > :03:36.according to the President of the Prison Governors Association.

:03:37. > :03:39.In an open letter, Andrea Albutt said that members had been left

:03:40. > :03:41."devastated" at what she called "the complete decline

:03:42. > :03:45.Her comments come after two days of trouble at The Mount

:03:46. > :03:48.The Ministry of Justice said it was dealing with long-term

:03:49. > :03:52.There are calls to renationalise probation services following a rise

:03:53. > :03:54.in the number of supervised offenders charged

:03:55. > :04:00.A total of 517 reviews were triggered in the past year

:04:01. > :04:02.after an offender on probation was charged with murder,

:04:03. > :04:05.manslaughter, rape or other serious offences.

:04:06. > :04:08.Three years ago, the Government changed the way probation

:04:09. > :04:14.services were run, creating the National Probation Service

:04:15. > :04:21.to deal with high-risk offenders with the rest being supervised by 21

:04:22. > :04:25.new community rehabilitation companies.

:04:26. > :04:33.The general secretary said he had repeatedly raised concerns. Our

:04:34. > :04:36.members, who are working under appalling conditions, it is a as a

:04:37. > :04:39.result of privatisation saw this coming a long time ago. We told

:04:40. > :04:43.ministers of that fact. We submitted evidence to Parliament. We were

:04:44. > :04:48.among 500 organisations who fore told problems with the private

:04:49. > :04:51.identitiesation. Now, it is easy to make the link between further

:04:52. > :04:56.serious offences and our hearts go out to the victims of such appalling

:04:57. > :04:59.crimes, but you have got to look at the operational models that the

:05:00. > :05:07.Government allowed to come into play by some of the private contractors

:05:08. > :05:09.and there have been countless reports that they are not fit for

:05:10. > :05:13.purposes in many cases. The Duke of Edinburgh will carry

:05:14. > :05:16.out his final public engagement this afternoon,

:05:17. > :05:18.before he retires from royal duty. Prince Philip, who's 96 years old,

:05:19. > :05:20.will attend a parade In May it was announced he would be

:05:21. > :05:24.retiring after spending more than six decades supporting

:05:25. > :05:26.the Queen as well as attending events for his own charities

:05:27. > :05:28.and organisations. A BBC investigation has found

:05:29. > :05:30.a growing shortfall in the number of beds needed to care

:05:31. > :05:34.for elderly people. By the end of next year it's

:05:35. > :05:37.predicted that up to 3,000 people won't be able to find a place

:05:38. > :05:41.in a care home. The Association of Directors

:05:42. > :05:43.of Adult Social Services wants more spent on caring for people

:05:44. > :05:53.in their own homes. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:54. > :06:04.News - more at 10.30am. You have been getting in touch on

:06:05. > :06:07.your prison story. Gareth says, "I have been trouble-free since 2009. I

:06:08. > :06:11.notice the huge amount of prisoners have been through the care system

:06:12. > :06:14.and one thing that happens a lot is thousands of small, pointless

:06:15. > :06:18.sentences clogging up the system and an inmate needs a two year sentence

:06:19. > :06:24.to really learn a trade in prison. Staff shortages have been rife from

:06:25. > :06:26.about 1998." Get in touch with us throughout the morning. You can use

:06:27. > :06:32.the hashtag Victoria Live. Yes, we'll start with

:06:33. > :06:37.football because Neymar - one of the world's footballing

:06:38. > :06:40.superstars - looks likely to leave Barcelona and join the French

:06:41. > :06:42.side Paris St Germain. The Brazilian

:06:43. > :06:45.is reported to have told his teammates that he wants

:06:46. > :06:47.to leave the Spanish side. He was then given permission

:06:48. > :06:50.by manager Ernesto Valverde not to train today and to "sort

:06:51. > :06:52.out his future". Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp says

:06:53. > :06:56.he hopes Daniel Sturridge's thigh injury isn't serious

:06:57. > :07:01.after the striker went off injured Sturridge scored his sides last goal

:07:02. > :07:10.in a 3-0 win against Bayern Munich in Germany

:07:11. > :07:12.but he immediately pulled up and was subbed just

:07:13. > :07:14.before full time. Injuries have limited Sturridge

:07:15. > :07:16.to 46 league appearances England goalkeeper Karen Bardsley

:07:17. > :07:20.will miss the rest of Women's Euro 2017 after it's been revealed

:07:21. > :07:22.she broke her leg. The Manchester City keeper

:07:23. > :07:27.was injured in the second-half of Sunday's quarter-final win over

:07:28. > :07:30.France, but she managed Siobhan Chamberlain,

:07:31. > :07:33.who came on for Bardsley, is now likely to face

:07:34. > :07:41.the Netherlands in tomorrow The camp was a bit down, but from

:07:42. > :07:46.KB's point of view, they rallied around and supported her. She did a

:07:47. > :07:49.fantastic job to help us get to this point at this tournament and over

:07:50. > :07:53.the last three years. She will still play a big part. Man City have been

:07:54. > :07:58.great in allowing her to stay until the end of the tournament.

:07:59. > :08:01.The eight-time Olympic champion Usain Bolt has told the BBC that

:08:02. > :08:03.if athletes continue to use drugs the sport "will die."

:08:04. > :08:05.Bolt, who will run the final races of his career

:08:06. > :08:08.at the World Championships in London which start this weekend,

:08:09. > :08:10.says after hitting "rock bottom", athletics is now beginning

:08:11. > :08:22.We're going in the right direction. I think we made changes and I think,

:08:23. > :08:27.I said earlier that the sport is pretty much hit rock bottom last

:08:28. > :08:30.season, a couple of seasons ago. Now, it's moving forward. I think

:08:31. > :08:33.it's going in the right direction. As long as athletes understand if

:08:34. > :08:37.they keep this up, the sport will die and then they won't have a job.

:08:38. > :08:39.So hopefully, athletes understand that and they will help the sport to

:08:40. > :08:46.move forward. Britain's Kyle Edmund

:08:47. > :08:48.is through to the second He beat Hyeon Chung

:08:49. > :08:53.of South Korea in straight sets. Heather Watson is out

:08:54. > :08:55.of the women's singles. She was beaten in straight sets

:08:56. > :08:58.by Patricia Maria Tig from Romania, who's ranked 134 in the world,

:08:59. > :09:00.59 places below Watson. Tig took both sets

:09:01. > :09:02.on tie-breaks as Watson Former England captain Alastair Cook

:09:03. > :09:08.believes England's experience as a Test side should help them

:09:09. > :09:12.when it comes to consistency as they prepare for the fourth Test

:09:13. > :09:14.against South Africa They need to avoid

:09:15. > :09:26.defeat to win the series As this side develops, we're getting

:09:27. > :09:34.to the stage where a lot of players have a lot of experience. If you

:09:35. > :09:37.play 30 Test matches you've kind of, you understand the rigmarole of Test

:09:38. > :09:41.cricket and your game a lot better than when you played one or two. We

:09:42. > :09:45.should be getting more consistent and that's the challenge for this

:09:46. > :09:50.side, that consistency which over the last 12 months there hasn't

:09:51. > :09:52.been. The fourth Test against South Africa starts on Friday at Old

:09:53. > :09:55.Trafford, Tina. Prisons in England and Wales

:09:56. > :09:58.are in crisis after "perverse" Government reform and a "toxic mix"

:09:59. > :10:01.of pressures, the head of the body Andrea Albutt wrote an open letter

:10:02. > :10:05.after recent violence at prisons She says the unrest

:10:06. > :10:10.is causing "grave concern", adding that governors faced

:10:11. > :10:23."unacceptable stress and anxiety". We have had year on year

:10:24. > :10:28.austerities measures. Part of those austerity measures

:10:29. > :10:30.was losing 7,000 prison officers and the staffing levels in prisons

:10:31. > :10:42.are critical, so we're unable to Is this a case of numbers? Do we

:10:43. > :10:46.need more prison officers? That's the priority. Not always prison

:10:47. > :10:51.officers. We do need more administration staff. But we need to

:10:52. > :10:55.have people so we can stabilise our prisons before we even start

:10:56. > :10:57.considering reforming them. If that's the number one concern, the

:10:58. > :11:04.Ministry of Justice said they are already increasing the numbers? In

:11:05. > :11:08.the financial year 16/17 there was a net increase of 75 prison officers.

:11:09. > :11:13.This year, they are ramping things up. The issue we've got is a high

:11:14. > :11:17.attrition rate. So whilst we may get the numbers in and there are

:11:18. > :11:22.question around the quality of the people that we're getting into our

:11:23. > :11:26.service, but we aren't keeping them because the environment is so

:11:27. > :11:29.violent in many prisons and the reward package is not good enough.

:11:30. > :11:32.So what can be done to solve that, the violence problem? Well, I think,

:11:33. > :11:39.at the moment, we just need to control the situation. There is no

:11:40. > :11:42.quick fix. So on a daily basis, prison governors and their teams

:11:43. > :11:46.will be deciding what kind of regime to deliver that will keep the prison

:11:47. > :11:51.safe. Then when we get the staff in, we will then start looking at how we

:11:52. > :11:55.strategically move our prisons on and start improving. In your open

:11:56. > :12:01.letter you said that governors faced unacceptable stress and anxiety. Can

:12:02. > :12:05.you give me examples? Well, I think, the best example is the two

:12:06. > :12:08.incidents that occurred in the Mount Prison in Hertfordshire over the

:12:09. > :12:13.last couple of days because that's not, now that is not an unusual

:12:14. > :12:18.occurrence. Prisoners gain control of wings and staff withdrew. So

:12:19. > :12:21.those wings have been damaged and we had to re-take those wings. We've

:12:22. > :12:26.spoken to a governor who was critical of the fact that the Prison

:12:27. > :12:28.Governors' Association didn't intervene when Chris Grayling made

:12:29. > :12:32.cuts to the Prison Service when he was Justice Secretary. How do you

:12:33. > :12:36.respond to that? Prison Governors' Association was fully involved in

:12:37. > :12:41.all of the consultation of benchmark and we did voice our concerns. As we

:12:42. > :12:45.do with everything, but that doesn't necessarily mean to say that we can

:12:46. > :12:48.stop Government policy. Is this too late then? Could you have done more

:12:49. > :12:54.and should you have spoken out earlier? No, I don't agree with

:12:55. > :13:01.that. I think we have done as much as we can and we consistently do

:13:02. > :13:05.this. I think what's interesting at the moment is our Secretary of

:13:06. > :13:11.State, David Lidington, his silence has been deafening on the issue of

:13:12. > :13:14.prisons. He has inherited prisons that are in a significantly

:13:15. > :13:19.challenging situation and he has said nothing. The prisons minister,

:13:20. > :13:23.he was our prisons minister in the last, he has retained that position.

:13:24. > :13:28.He has been unable to meet with us until mid-October. So it isn't a

:13:29. > :13:32.case of the Prison Governors' Association aren't doing anything,

:13:33. > :13:37.but the Government don't seem to be receptive to talking to us. How bad

:13:38. > :13:45.do you feel the situation is becoming? Well, the situation, the

:13:46. > :13:50.violence statistics that came out last week, were the worst ever. I

:13:51. > :13:57.don't expect them to improve in the next quarter. So, the situation is

:13:58. > :14:02.bad. And until we get sufficient staff in our prison, the situation

:14:03. > :14:05.we're in will continue so, we will continue to try and control the

:14:06. > :14:12.situation in our prisons, but we will not be delivering in a

:14:13. > :14:14.significant number of our prisons good, quality rehabilitative

:14:15. > :14:20.regimes, we will be holding and controlling the people in our care

:14:21. > :14:25.and this is unacceptable. OK, we can now speak to man who used to be the

:14:26. > :14:31.Governor of Brixton and he is the author of Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind,

:14:32. > :14:42.Why Britain's Prisons Are Failing. Good morning. What's your response?

:14:43. > :14:48.I agree with much of what Andrea is saying. The Prison Governors'

:14:49. > :14:51.Association didn't fight hard enough against the benchmarking process

:14:52. > :14:57.against which cuts were made. There are no quick fixes. We need more

:14:58. > :15:02.prison staff and we need fewer prisoners, but we need a better

:15:03. > :15:07.strategic approach from the PGA and we're not getting it. Can you take

:15:08. > :15:11.me through a typical day in the life of somebody who is working at one of

:15:12. > :15:17.these prisons? Can you tell me how bad it is? Well, I'm not the person

:15:18. > :15:23.to ask as I'm not currently working in English prisons, but it will be

:15:24. > :15:27.extremely stressful. Prisons work on staff prisoner relationships. You

:15:28. > :15:32.run prisons on co-operation and you know a good day for a prisoner and a

:15:33. > :15:37.good day for a prison officer is when there is dialogue, and when

:15:38. > :15:41.there is mutual interest and when prisoners have got investment in the

:15:42. > :15:46.regime and when prison staff are able to engage with prisoners about

:15:47. > :15:48.their difficulties and their resettlement and those

:15:49. > :15:53.staff-prisoner relationships have broken down and they've broken down

:15:54. > :15:59.because as Andrea said you can't lose # 500 prison officers with a

:16:00. > :16:02.lot of experience and then try and replace them with 2500 straight ot

:16:03. > :16:06.of the training school and the training in this country is the

:16:07. > :16:13.shortest of any jurisdiction that I've worked in. So you've got prison

:16:14. > :16:19.officers who demoralised and demotivated and poorly trained,

:16:20. > :16:25.poorly recompensed as well and they are retreating into a corner.

:16:26. > :16:31.Regimes get less and less. So prisoners have, I think, we have

:16:32. > :16:36.seen this in many of the disturbances. They have not nothing

:16:37. > :16:40.to lose. The Month is a prison for people towards the end of their

:16:41. > :16:50.sentence who are looking to be resettled in the local area.

:16:51. > :16:56.And enemies number one but are people up and go back into our

:16:57. > :17:03.communities. -- these are not public enemies number one. Being released

:17:04. > :17:07.on temporary licence, where prisoners can go out and work in the

:17:08. > :17:11.community, spend some money, prepare for release. That is what should be

:17:12. > :17:14.happening, not prisoners being locked up 23 hours a day. I have

:17:15. > :17:22.lost track of the rules and regulations as to who's gift release

:17:23. > :17:26.on temporary licence is, but it should be governors. It is governors

:17:27. > :17:32.taking risks that I am afraid they need to take. Can you tell me about,

:17:33. > :17:35.John, this unacceptable stress and anxiety that Andrew talks about in

:17:36. > :17:41.the letter, that governors are facing? It will be huge. Because of

:17:42. > :17:46.this breakdown in relationships, prisons become very tense. And

:17:47. > :17:51.governors going in first thing in the morning will be worried,

:17:52. > :17:55.firstly, how many staff are going to turn up. There are no figures I have

:17:56. > :18:03.seen recently about staff sickness. I suspect it is very high. Andrew

:18:04. > :18:07.has referred to the turnover, so you have experienced people going in, so

:18:08. > :18:11.the Governor will come in first thing in the morning. How many staff

:18:12. > :18:15.does he have? What kind of regime can he run? It becomes a bit of a

:18:16. > :18:23.downward spiral. The furious that he has got, or she has got, -- the

:18:24. > :18:26.fewer staff that he or she has got. The more reluctant prison officers

:18:27. > :18:31.are to unlock the prisoners, and we then end up with the situation we

:18:32. > :18:33.saw the Mount and many other prisons. John, thank you very much

:18:34. > :18:36.for speaking to us this morning. Still to come - we'll be talking

:18:37. > :18:39.to British swimming champion Adam Peaty following his success

:18:40. > :18:41.at the World Championships If you have a burning question for

:18:42. > :18:51.him, do get in touch. Kanye West's touring company

:18:52. > :19:01.is suing Lloyd's of London more than ?7 million over

:19:02. > :19:03.the rapper's cancelled gigs. Very Good Touring said in a legal

:19:04. > :19:06.document that the insurers have implied they can refuse to pay out

:19:07. > :19:21.by claiming his mental health issues Sinead can tell us more about this.

:19:22. > :19:27.You might remember towards the end of this tour, when he cancelled, it

:19:28. > :19:31.was 21 dates of the same tour, he had been ranting, a bit unusual

:19:32. > :19:35.onstage, played the songs at the last gig, which I think was in

:19:36. > :19:39.Sacramento, California. Started talking about Beyonce and Jay-Z, who

:19:40. > :19:43.previously were their friends, all this kind of stuff, then he left.

:19:44. > :19:54.The next thing we heard was about police being called to his house,

:19:55. > :19:56.and he was then taken to hospital and assessed, and we were told he

:19:57. > :19:59.had severe exhaustion and therefore couldn't go ahead with the rest of

:20:00. > :20:02.his tour. So have the insurers said why they are not paying out? They

:20:03. > :20:06.have not actually said anything apart from that they cannot comment

:20:07. > :20:10.on legal on goings, but Kanye's company has been very vocal about

:20:11. > :20:12.why they think they are not paying out. They say that they have

:20:13. > :20:18.indicated, the insurers, they believe that Kanye West's mental

:20:19. > :20:22.breakdown was due to the fact that he was using marijuana and therefore

:20:23. > :20:28.they don't have to pay out, but Kanye's company are really angry

:20:29. > :20:31.about this. They say Kanye was medically tested independently by a

:20:32. > :20:34.doctor that was put up by the insurer's company so they have all

:20:35. > :20:38.these facts, so I don't think they will stop fighting this, because it

:20:39. > :20:42.is a lot of money they will lose. Stage and to social media for

:20:43. > :20:49.updates on this, I am guessing, from Kanye. Well, maybe. Sinead, thank

:20:50. > :20:56.you very much. Next this morning -

:20:57. > :20:58.this is Poppi Wicks - she's one of the smallest babies

:20:59. > :21:01.in the world who's survived after being born at just 25 weeks -

:21:02. > :21:04.one week after the abortion limit. She weighed less than a pound

:21:05. > :21:07.when she was born and her parents were told her survival

:21:08. > :21:09.chances were slim. Now five months on - she's home

:21:10. > :21:12.and living with her family - and her parents Hannah Wicks

:21:13. > :21:14.and Steve McSween have When she was born she weighed

:21:15. > :21:24.just under a pound? She's doing really well,

:21:25. > :21:29.she settled in well at home. all her test results that she had

:21:30. > :21:31.before she left hospital What we can see there is a portable

:21:32. > :21:37.oxygen tank and the she have to be -- on that all the time

:21:38. > :21:53.at the moment? We thought that it was a syndrome

:21:54. > :21:56.that was incompatible So I then had to have

:21:57. > :22:00.an amniocentesis done. What does that mean,

:22:01. > :22:03.for people who don't know? It's when they put a needle

:22:04. > :22:06.through your tummy into the womb and they collect some

:22:07. > :22:08.of the amniotic fluid And then they test it

:22:09. > :22:11.using the chromosomes in it. So you were told there was no way

:22:12. > :22:14.you get the full term? How did you feel when

:22:15. > :22:18.you received that news? You just don't ever think it's

:22:19. > :22:21.going to happen to you. Even now, when we look back

:22:22. > :22:27.on it and we don't know At the time, what options

:22:28. > :22:30.were you given? We were told we could carry

:22:31. > :22:35.on and she would maybe pass away, but he said the likelihood was quite

:22:36. > :22:38.high that we'd lose her and I'd have Or try and get her as far along

:22:39. > :22:43.as we could, and deliver. But that was risky because we could

:22:44. > :22:45.have lost her at any minute. So at 18 weeks, as I understand it,

:22:46. > :22:49.a doctor told you Poppi would be Can you put into words how you felt

:22:50. > :23:02.when you were told that Completely numb. It was like he was

:23:03. > :23:06.telling somebody else. It was my second pregnancy, and it was like,

:23:07. > :23:10.someone just told us it wasn't going to happen, and it was just

:23:11. > :23:14.heartbreaking, wasn't it? Steve, did you believe she would survive? I

:23:15. > :23:20.kept saying, she has got this far, so she will not stop now. We believe

:23:21. > :23:26.there was no option to give up on her because she had not given up on

:23:27. > :23:29.us. What was it like going into hospital for an emergency Caesarean

:23:30. > :23:34.at 25 weeks knowing that she might not make it? What was going through

:23:35. > :23:38.your mind in the operating theatre? I was find myself until they said to

:23:39. > :23:42.us, we are about to deliver, and then I started crying, because I

:23:43. > :23:48.just thought, this is it now. She is either going to make it or she is

:23:49. > :23:51.not. It is out of my hands. It was weird, wasn't it? We had been

:23:52. > :23:55.waiting for it to happen so long. Everything we went to the doctors,

:23:56. > :24:00.we got this will be the time they take us there, and he would just

:24:01. > :24:05.say, come back in a couple of hours, and we will get you prepped and

:24:06. > :24:09.ready, and we sort of left to get ready and thought, all of a sudden,

:24:10. > :24:13.oh, no, it is happening now. I will just remind our viewers the survival

:24:14. > :24:20.rate for babies born at 25 weeks is 59%. If Poppi had been born a week

:24:21. > :24:23.earlier, it would be 39%. How do you feel about the fact that she was

:24:24. > :24:32.born only one week after the abortion limit? We are pro-choice.

:24:33. > :24:38.Both of us, aren't you? We think it is the individual's decision.

:24:39. > :24:46.Personally, I think it is too late. I think it should be lowered. Can

:24:47. > :24:51.you describe how small Poppi was when she was born? I know that she

:24:52. > :24:55.weighed just under our pound, but can you put into words what it was

:24:56. > :24:58.like to see her that size? She fitted into our hands, so that is

:24:59. > :25:01.the size she was. I was quite shocked when I saw her, because I

:25:02. > :25:06.don't know what I thought she was going to look like, but she did just

:25:07. > :25:09.look like a baby, and I wasn't expecting that. I remember thinking

:25:10. > :25:17.when I looked at her, she looks like a baby. Just small. Tiny, she could

:25:18. > :25:21.fit into the palm of your hand. You have brought in some of her baby

:25:22. > :25:25.clothes. Let's have a look at this one. When did Poppi where this? That

:25:26. > :25:31.was her first baby grow that she went into, around ten weeks. At ten

:25:32. > :25:38.weeks she was wearing this. What else do you have? This was her first

:25:39. > :25:48.nappy, up against the nappy she is wearing no. That must have been cut

:25:49. > :25:54.to size? Yes, it was still too big for her, to be cut. How long was she

:25:55. > :26:04.in hospital? 17 weeks. How aware you of long-term complications and risks

:26:05. > :26:09.Poppi may face in later life? We were told she had a high chance of

:26:10. > :26:15.getting cerebral palsy, but she had quite a few brain scans when she was

:26:16. > :26:18.in, and she never had any bleeding of the brain, and she had a routine

:26:19. > :26:24.MRI scan before she came home which has come back we are, so so far, so

:26:25. > :26:28.good. And I hope it continues that way. Thank you so much for coming in

:26:29. > :26:29.and bringing Poppi in. A beautiful little girl. Thank you for sharing

:26:30. > :26:39.your story with us. Poppi Wicks and her parents, Hannah

:26:40. > :26:43.and Steve. One million malnourished

:26:44. > :26:45.and starving children are now at risk of dying from cholera

:26:46. > :26:48.in Yemen - says the charity The disease is spreading quickly

:26:49. > :26:51.throughout the country - Malnourished children have

:26:52. > :26:54.substantially weaker immune systems and are at least three times more

:26:55. > :26:57.likely to die if they After two years of violence

:26:58. > :27:00.and conflict, clean water is hard to come by, and Yemen's children

:27:01. > :27:03.are now trapped in a brutal cycle Here's a look at how the crisis has

:27:04. > :27:12.engulfed the country - and a warning that the clip we're

:27:13. > :27:15.about to show you has Let's talk now to Saleh

:27:16. > :29:36.Saeed, chief executive of Disasters Emergency Committee -

:29:37. > :29:38.they recently launched Shabia Mantoo is on the ground

:29:39. > :30:05.for UNHCR and sees people daily from the 'cholera hotspots.' dr

:30:06. > :30:08.mariam aldogani, is a yemeni doctor that specialises in helping

:30:09. > :30:21.pregnant women with cholera I will start with you, Shabia. What

:30:22. > :30:26.are you seeing? It is getting worse every single day. People killed by

:30:27. > :30:30.the conflict, and now we have the cholera epidemic. I am seeing people

:30:31. > :30:34.every single day, women, children, people suffering the most, and lots

:30:35. > :30:37.of them are susceptible to cholera and disease, and they are also

:30:38. > :30:40.trying to escape for safety. Nowhere is safe. They have all moved

:30:41. > :30:45.multiple times and are trying to avoid bombs and are living in very

:30:46. > :30:50.unsanitary conditions where cholera is easily transmitted, so it is very

:30:51. > :30:52.unsafe and people are also going hungry. We are dealing with the

:30:53. > :30:56.largest security emergency in the world, so we are seeing people just

:30:57. > :31:00.do not have enough food to eat. They are lucky to get one meal per day

:31:01. > :31:05.but really they don't know where their next meal is coming from. It

:31:06. > :31:10.is an inventory of misery in all aspects. Sana'a is the largest city

:31:11. > :31:14.in Yemen. If you're walking through some of the more rural areas, it

:31:15. > :31:16.would be even worse. What we do see people eating if you were walking

:31:17. > :31:20.through one of those areas, because it is so far removed from people

:31:21. > :31:27.here it would be good to get a sense of that from your? In rural areas it

:31:28. > :31:30.is very difficult for people to get assistance. Out there, what we see

:31:31. > :31:34.in fact there's lots of people living in makeshift shelters that

:31:35. > :31:42.have to be on the Move, who have to try to avoid conflict, so we see of

:31:43. > :31:45.makeshift shelters. There is little protection against the elements and

:31:46. > :31:49.they don't have enough food. The average person I speak to that has

:31:50. > :31:53.been displaced, they tell me what they eat, and their meal a day is

:31:54. > :31:58.actually just black tea and a piece of bread, that is what they live on.

:31:59. > :32:01.People are malnourished and also people with sicknesses who are now

:32:02. > :32:04.even more vulnerable to more disease, people are just languishing

:32:05. > :32:08.without health care, without adequate food, without shelter, in

:32:09. > :32:12.very dire circumstances. This has been going on since the beginning of

:32:13. > :32:15.the conflict, so it is the third year with people are living like

:32:16. > :32:19.that. It also means local communities they are relying on,

:32:20. > :32:23.they are also overstretched, so we are just seeing this widespread,

:32:24. > :32:29.people just really, in the true essence of the word, struggling to

:32:30. > :32:32.survive, struggling to stay alive. And what is even worse is that

:32:33. > :32:36.cholera should be easily preventable. How bad is the

:32:37. > :32:52.situation as you see it, Doctor? Last week I saw the cholera cases in

:32:53. > :32:57.one of the treatment centres and I saw a lot of cases lying on the

:32:58. > :33:03.ground. Especially the pregnant women. I can give you two stories

:33:04. > :33:08.about one regular nant woman. She was just crying and afraid to lose

:33:09. > :33:16.their baby. She came from a remote area and she paid a lot to get

:33:17. > :33:20.assistance and we tried to calm her down so she could get treatment, but

:33:21. > :33:32.she told me there is some pregnant women, they lose their baby due to

:33:33. > :33:38.the cholera, I saw another woman. She is is crying. And I told her,

:33:39. > :33:43."Why are you crying? You are afraid of dying?" She said I am afraid of

:33:44. > :33:52.my baby, they are alone. They didn't have food and no one take care of

:33:53. > :34:00.him. What is on the ground is more worse. It is more worse. We are

:34:01. > :34:07.struggling to get some medicine, especially for the pregnant women.

:34:08. > :34:12.The block of the airport and seaboard, this has caused a lot of

:34:13. > :34:20.stress on the health workers and in addition to the health system

:34:21. > :34:26.collapse. More than ten months the public health workers didn't get

:34:27. > :34:33.their salaries. We have severe and huge shortages in medical supplies

:34:34. > :34:36.and medical equipment. I'm worried that the cholera cases will increase

:34:37. > :34:44.because the risk management systems are not there and we have now the

:34:45. > :34:48.rainy season and the water source will be contaminated which will

:34:49. > :35:01.create a lot of cases and children will return to school and this will

:35:02. > :35:06.aggravate the situation. One of the stories that one mother didn't know

:35:07. > :35:14.that she cannot know that she need to breast-feed her child because of

:35:15. > :35:19.her cholera is six months old and she lifted him and they died. The

:35:20. > :35:23.baby died because of starving and the mother died because she had the

:35:24. > :35:29.cholera and she didn't have enough money to refer her to the nearest

:35:30. > :35:37.treatment centre. This is the situation. I'm really sorry to hear

:35:38. > :35:43.that. We were talking about Yemen for a while and there was a

:35:44. > :35:47.photograph a starving girl that came torve's attention. We're not talking

:35:48. > :35:51.about Yemen anymore, why? The situation in the Yemen is getting

:35:52. > :35:55.worse. 20 million people in need of humanitarian assistance and that

:35:56. > :36:01.figure has grown by two million. Journalists are finding it extremely

:36:02. > :36:07.extremely difficult to get into Yemen and report on the crisis. We

:36:08. > :36:11.have had our own disasters in the UK. Yemen has been forgotten or been

:36:12. > :36:17.ignored and it is the world's largest humanitarian crisis. We know

:36:18. > :36:21.when the public know about the crisis in Yemen, they are generous.

:36:22. > :36:26.An appeal raised ?24 million and so far with that generous support we've

:36:27. > :36:31.reached two million people with life-saving equipment, food, water

:36:32. > :36:36.and including a response to the cholera outbreak. Can you see

:36:37. > :36:41.foresee this situation which sounds so dire, can you see it improving

:36:42. > :36:45.any time soon? Sadly not. This is a shame on humanity and a shame on the

:36:46. > :36:49.world powers and including the warring parties on the ground that

:36:50. > :36:52.continue to create this conflict, create conflict, create hunger, and

:36:53. > :36:56.cholera and innocent children are dying on a daily basis. So, you

:36:57. > :37:02.know, we need to bring the warring parties to book and make sure that

:37:03. > :37:07.innocent children are saved. Thank you all for speaking to us about it

:37:08. > :37:13.this morning. Wes tweeted and said, "How long can the world just watch

:37:14. > :37:19.in silence at what is happening in Yemen?"

:37:20. > :37:20.I'm Tina Daheley in for Victoria Derbyshire.

:37:21. > :37:24.Next, he's broken multiple world records - many of them his own -

:37:25. > :37:26.and taken home a handful of gold medals.

:37:27. > :37:28.Adam Peaty is a swimming superstar and the fastest

:37:29. > :37:38.Last week in the World Swimming Championships

:37:39. > :37:41.he broke his own record in the 50 metre breaststroke

:37:42. > :37:43.twice and he won gold in both the 100 and 50 metres.

:37:44. > :37:46.We'll speak to him in just a moment, but first let's take

:37:47. > :38:04.Absolutely fantastic. Adam Peaty takes gold for Great Britain. Yes!

:38:05. > :38:10.Oh, he has done it! Wow!

:38:11. > :38:14.That's all I can say. I don't know whether to cry. I'm ecstatic. I'm so

:38:15. > :38:20.proud of him. COMMENTATOR: Peaty is starting to

:38:21. > :38:29.streak ahead. 21.0 is the world record. I never thought I would see

:38:30. > :38:35.the day when a breaststroke swimmer would go 25 seconds. It is all about

:38:36. > :38:38.Adam Peaty. Goodness me the margin of victory, that was phenomenal.

:38:39. > :38:42.Peaty is making the rest of the world reset their dreams because

:38:43. > :38:46.their dreams are no longer quick enough and the time 25.99, just

:38:47. > :38:51.outside of his own world record. And the rest of the world is starting to

:38:52. > :38:55.come with him, you know, they really tried, but no one got within half a

:38:56. > :39:00.second of Great Britain's Adam Peaty. And Adam is here with us now.

:39:01. > :39:04.We are delighted to have you on the programme, Adam. Can I first of all

:39:05. > :39:11.ask you how many times have you watched your races back? A lot

:39:12. > :39:15.actually! Post Rio I watched that race so many times for motivation,

:39:16. > :39:19.the day in and day out grind, the ones there from last week, I haven't

:39:20. > :39:26.watched yet, but I'm sure I will get to it when my nan shoves it down my

:39:27. > :39:30.throat! What goes through your mind going into the competition, do you

:39:31. > :39:36.see yourself winning, but breaking your own world record twice? Yeah, I

:39:37. > :39:40.mean, it's very different for me because every time I go into a meet

:39:41. > :39:44.I try and start with nothing, I don't realise what I've done until

:39:45. > :39:47.I've done T I don't look back at Rio and say I need to, you know, do that

:39:48. > :39:51.again. I just start with nothing. This is how it's going to work. This

:39:52. > :39:56.is how much I trained for and this is what I've changed this season. I

:39:57. > :39:59.just go out there and race as fast as I can and try and swim

:40:00. > :40:04.breaststroke as fast as I can. Correct me if it is more, but I

:40:05. > :40:09.think it is five world golds, that sounds like global domination to me.

:40:10. > :40:13.So what's next? So, yeah, I'm just going to celebrate now and put it

:40:14. > :40:17.all in the past and enjoy it, for what it is and yeah, I mean, I have

:40:18. > :40:21.got ten years left in this sport, I'm still quite young which is a

:40:22. > :40:25.very, very good thing to have on my side. I'm hoping someone will come

:40:26. > :40:30.out out of the woodwork and challenge me, because that's what

:40:31. > :40:33.sport and sport needs. People need rivalries and I'm looking forward to

:40:34. > :40:37.that and hopefully that will push me on more. So you are looking for a

:40:38. > :40:42.challenger, that will make things more exciting? Hopefully someone is

:40:43. > :40:48.watching that and saying, "Yes, I can take him on." Who are your role

:40:49. > :40:55.models? We will get on to your mum, your coach and your gran aside.

:40:56. > :41:02.Muhammad Ali has been my main role model, the way he sold the sport and

:41:03. > :41:07.the way he reacted and the way he predicted his rounds, I read most of

:41:08. > :41:11.his books and yeah, sport is completely mental and the athlete is

:41:12. > :41:15.the mind and the body is simply the means and that's the one quote I

:41:16. > :41:19.live by. Going back to your family. I know you said a lot of your

:41:20. > :41:24.success is down to the support you have from your coach, your mum and

:41:25. > :41:27.your grandma, she is famous in her own right, how much influence have

:41:28. > :41:32.they had? Massive influence. My mum used to drive me all the way to the

:41:33. > :41:38.pool at 4am and used to stay at the pool and watch me train and go back

:41:39. > :41:43.to work for 8am and I used to go to school and she used to collect me

:41:44. > :41:49.from school and go to the pool for 6pm and didn't get back to 11.30pm

:41:50. > :41:53.and she was working a full-time job and taking me back and forth from

:41:54. > :41:56.training. It is a huge, huge gamble because it couldn't have paid off,

:41:57. > :42:01.but she gave me the best possible outcome really. What does she think

:42:02. > :42:06.about your success? Does she, does your family treat you dmeumpbly? My

:42:07. > :42:10.family always ground me. It is great fof my nan around and my family have

:42:11. > :42:15.always been there from day one and fully supported my dream and my

:42:16. > :42:19.vision that I had so clearly. How is may have Is. I know she hadn't flown

:42:20. > :42:26.for 20 years, but flew to see you in Budapest. Did she say it was worth

:42:27. > :42:30.it? She loved it. She had her bags packed five weeks before. She loved

:42:31. > :42:35.it. How much does the support that you have drive you? I imagine,

:42:36. > :42:39.you're so young, you've had to make sacrifices a long the way in terms

:42:40. > :42:43.of, you know, your training is so intense, I heard that you train for

:42:44. > :42:49.two hour sessions three times a day, six days a week? Yeah, training is

:42:50. > :42:53.so, so intense. Six days a week and around 35 hours a week, proper

:42:54. > :42:57.intense training. So it's a very, very tough sport to be part of, but

:42:58. > :43:01.no, I just put in pros pktive, I could be doing something I hate and

:43:02. > :43:04.I get to travel the world and get to meet amazing people from all

:43:05. > :43:09.different backgrounds and I wouldn't change it for the world. We have a

:43:10. > :43:13.superfan who wants to speak to you. 11-year-old Aidan got in touch from

:43:14. > :43:21.Plymouth. Over to you Aidan. Hi Adam. Hi, Aidan, how are you doing?

:43:22. > :43:34.Good. You? Good, thanks. Do you swim? I swim. What's your favourite

:43:35. > :43:40.stroke? Fly. Amazing. I won't see you racing me any time soon. Yes.

:43:41. > :43:44.Awesome, keep training hard and hopefully one day you will get a few

:43:45. > :43:49.gold medals. Aidan, what's your question for adal? If you could give

:43:50. > :43:55.a word of inspiration to a swimmer what, would it be? Honestly, enjoy

:43:56. > :44:00.it. You're very young. Don't take yourself too seriously. Go out

:44:01. > :44:04.there, in training and hammer train every day and consistency is the key

:44:05. > :44:08.to success, but at the same time make sure you enjoy it because as

:44:09. > :44:12.soon as that enjoyment has gone, then your performance will decease

:44:13. > :44:16.because if you're having fun with it and you're not taking yourself too

:44:17. > :44:21.seriously, you will go in there and hopefully shock the world with your

:44:22. > :44:25.performances. Rebecca Adams, we are joined by, from Glasgow who wants to

:44:26. > :44:37.speak to you and ask you a question. Hi Rebecca. Well done. Thank you

:44:38. > :44:40.very much. Did you ever imagine that you would be world champion. What

:44:41. > :44:45.advice would you give to competitive swimmers? A few years ago I was like

:44:46. > :44:50.I want to make the Olympic team. I didn't think I would come back with

:44:51. > :44:54.an Olympic gold medal and world record. I started from the bottom

:44:55. > :44:58.and worked my way up and that was from the day in and day out grind

:44:59. > :45:02.and surrounding myself with positive people around me and yeah, that's

:45:03. > :45:07.the way it has always been really and each day I just strive for

:45:08. > :45:12.perfection and kind of got that. Keep enjoying it and keep working

:45:13. > :45:16.hard and make sure you're working smart at the same time because you

:45:17. > :45:20.don't want to be bashing up and down that pool if you're not focussing on

:45:21. > :45:25.an area where you're trying to improve. Thank you. That's OK. Adam,

:45:26. > :45:33.how often are you getting recognised? Honestly, I haven't been

:45:34. > :45:36.home! From Budapest I have been very busy trying to spread the message

:45:37. > :45:41.that you can come from the bottom of the bottom and work your way all the

:45:42. > :45:48.way up and honestly, I want to thank everyone for the support in Budapest

:45:49. > :45:53.and Rio and hopefully I'm going to do you proud. People find it so

:45:54. > :45:56.interesting to hear about your lifestyle and training, but how much

:45:57. > :45:57.you eat. How many calories are you consuming every day when you're

:45:58. > :46:08.training? I could easily do about 8000

:46:09. > :46:13.calories. 8000 calories! What would you eat for that? On a typical day?

:46:14. > :46:19.Winter is a lot different than summer, because I need that extra

:46:20. > :46:22.muscle mass or I could have, you know, pancakes, obviously I would

:46:23. > :46:26.have another breakfast after training, like, beans on toast,

:46:27. > :46:31.chicken, literally anything. There is so much food. But I try to eat

:46:32. > :46:34.quite little and often, so I am not getting too bloated so I can still

:46:35. > :46:40.train extremely hard, but at the same time in summer I will be having

:46:41. > :46:46.salads for ten weeks before Budapest, and the diet there is

:46:47. > :46:49.extremely strict. I know that you hated water initially, or so your

:46:50. > :46:55.mum tells everybody. I still have a fear of deep water. Any tips for me?

:46:56. > :46:59.How did you get over it? Honestly, just enjoy it. I keep telling

:47:00. > :47:03.everyone to enjoy it, but that is really the key. Surround yourself

:47:04. > :47:06.with people in the same situation, people scared of deepwater, go out

:47:07. > :47:10.with them and just make it fun. Honestly, even if on holiday,

:47:11. > :47:15.overcome that fear. But I always learned the best way of overcoming

:47:16. > :47:18.fear is just to go straight ahead in, don't even think about it, and

:47:19. > :47:24.before you know it you have already overcome it. Usain Bolt has the

:47:25. > :47:28.lightning bolt, and you are entering legend status. What is your

:47:29. > :47:33.signature move going to be? I don't know. I have been thinking of this

:47:34. > :47:37.for a few years now and I can't think of anything. Maybe we should

:47:38. > :47:39.get our review to send in some suggestions for you. That would be

:47:40. > :47:44.amazing LAUGHTER And the other thing I wanted to ask,

:47:45. > :47:50.because people have spoken about your techniques, not strictly a

:47:51. > :47:54.breaststroke, kind of a hybrid, can you give us a little demonstration?

:47:55. > :47:58.What you want to do... People say you need to be a streamlined as

:47:59. > :48:02.possible, but when it comes to your hands, you don't want to be tense

:48:03. > :48:07.like this, but I'd like that, a few millimetres, push them that way,

:48:08. > :48:13.grab the water, then come all the way up, so like this, and shop the

:48:14. > :48:17.water like that, so your likes don't really come further out than your

:48:18. > :48:21.hip, so you don't want to hit the water there, but you want to be nice

:48:22. > :48:24.and streamlined, powerful and efficient, but especially the breast

:48:25. > :48:30.stroke is all about relaxation and composure, but at the same time

:48:31. > :48:34.keeping it calm and powerful. You have just given away your secrets on

:48:35. > :48:38.live television! We have some very quickfire questions for you. We

:48:39. > :48:43.heard all about that training, sacrifice. What are your bad habits,

:48:44. > :48:48.your guiltiest pleasure? Pancakes, any day. I love to eat pancakes.

:48:49. > :48:54.Last time you got drunk? The other day after Budapest, yes. Tell us

:48:55. > :48:58.secret about you. I don't know actually. Not quickfire, is it? We

:48:59. > :49:03.will pass on that. Weirdest thing you have done to prepare for a race?

:49:04. > :49:07.Honestly I don't know... I like to get myself in the zone, like to

:49:08. > :49:16.meditate little bit, then just get my head straight. Last time you

:49:17. > :49:19.cried? Oh... Probably after Rio, with my mum. If you could do

:49:20. > :49:23.anything with your life apart from swimming, what would it be? I would

:49:24. > :49:27.probably be in the Army. Wanted to join the Royal Marines from a young

:49:28. > :49:31.age but that dream got overtaken with swimming. Sorry for asking this

:49:32. > :49:34.in advance, but how often do you wee in the pool? Everyday!

:49:35. > :49:38.LAUGHTER We will leave it there. Adam Peaty,

:49:39. > :49:46.thanks very much indeed. It has been an absolute pleasure. We hope you

:49:47. > :49:52.get a well-deserved rest over the summer. Thank you.

:49:53. > :49:55.Prince Philip retires today at the grand old age of 96 having

:49:56. > :49:57.completed more that 22,000 solo engagements since 1952.

:49:58. > :50:00.The Duke of Edinburgh has been known for his off the cuff remarks

:50:01. > :50:01.which have sometimes shocked and sometimes delighted

:50:02. > :51:05.We can speak now to our royal correspondent Sarah Campbell.

:51:06. > :51:19.What a lot of official engagements. 22,219 solo engagement since 1952.

:51:20. > :51:22.Why is he retiring now? He is doing a course called himself the world's

:51:23. > :51:26.most experienced plaque unveiled, and he's probably right. He said he

:51:27. > :51:31.felt he had done his bit recently, but then there were a busy few

:51:32. > :51:35.years, the Queen's Jubilee, the Queen's 90th birthday, the Olympics,

:51:36. > :51:39.so that is all done and we are at a bit of a loyal and we had the

:51:40. > :51:41.announcement back in May. A surprise announcement, and it seems

:51:42. > :51:46.ridiculous to say and 96-year-old gave a surprise announcement that he

:51:47. > :51:51.was retiring, but he did, so he will be stepping back from public

:51:52. > :51:55.engagements after 65 years accompanying the Queen. The final

:51:56. > :52:01.engagement takes place today. What is it? It is at Buckingham Palace,

:52:02. > :52:03.appropriately enough, and with the Royal Marines, again fairly

:52:04. > :52:08.appropriate because as we all know he gave it a very glittering career,

:52:09. > :52:12.his potential with the Royal Navy, back in the 1950s when the Queen

:52:13. > :52:16.exceeded the throne, so he was appointed Captain general of the

:52:17. > :52:19.Royal Marines back in the 1950s, and really this is the sort of

:52:20. > :52:27.celebration of that, of the Royal Marines. They have been doing some

:52:28. > :52:31.amazing things. Running 16.64 miles for 100 days to celebrate them and

:52:32. > :52:35.their charity, and Prince Philip is the captain general will be celibate

:52:36. > :52:39.in that. There will be a Royal Salute and three cheers for duke at

:52:40. > :52:43.Buckingham Palace this afternoon. I know he is officially retiring, but

:52:44. > :52:47.can we still expect him to attend some engagements, as he chooses,

:52:48. > :52:52.with the Queen? Absolutely, I think that is it. The ability to pick and

:52:53. > :52:55.choose. The direct is very much set out in stone, so at least this gives

:52:56. > :53:00.him the ability to say, I will do this, I will not do that, but, yes,

:53:01. > :53:03.I think we shall then we'll expect to see him but also to expect other

:53:04. > :53:07.members of the Royal family to step up and support the Queen, Prince

:53:08. > :53:10.William, who just last week finished his tenure at the inner anglers, he

:53:11. > :53:14.is coming back to London so he will be on the Seymour. We will see more

:53:15. > :53:19.of Prince Harry and the rest of the family stepping up -- just last week

:53:20. > :53:28.finished his tenure at the Royal air ambulance. Some more work for all of

:53:29. > :53:34.them. One way to put it. Sarah Campbell, find you very much indeed.

:53:35. > :53:43.Just to let you know some channel numbers are changing. BBC HD will

:53:44. > :53:46.remain at 107. Some televisions will update automatically but you might

:53:47. > :54:00.need to reach in your TV or free view box. BBC News will remain where

:54:01. > :54:01.it is, however. -- you might need to retune your box.

:54:02. > :54:03.The BBC's announced details of a new TV cookery competition.

:54:04. > :54:06.Britain's Best Cook will be hosted by Claudia Winkleman

:54:07. > :54:10.She left the Great British Bake Off last year when it was announced

:54:11. > :54:13.the show was moving from the BBC to Channel 4.

:54:14. > :54:15.It's inevitably led to some accusations that the new prog

:54:16. > :54:20.As if you need any reminder - here's Mary Berry at her best.

:54:21. > :54:23.Well, that's the rum and the wines...

:54:24. > :54:25.It's part of how you'd make the black rum cake.

:54:26. > :54:38.We see you've got that mottled effect on the top like that.

:54:39. > :55:03.So how different do we think the show is going to be? Let ask

:55:04. > :55:14.Buzzfeed's TV editor, Scott Bryan, and the former Great British Bake

:55:15. > :55:18.Off contestant Chetna Makan. Is it really surprising Channel 4 would

:55:19. > :55:24.criticise this, the new baking show with Mary Berry. She already

:55:25. > :55:28.presents another show, doesn't she? Yes, and we don't know exactly how

:55:29. > :55:31.the show will be made up. We don't know the other judges, about where

:55:32. > :55:36.it will be filmed, we just don't know the details about how

:55:37. > :55:41.distinctive it is going to be. The fact is that if the BBC tries to go

:55:42. > :55:43.and do a show that as a direct replacement of the Great British

:55:44. > :55:47.Bake Off, that anxiety is it will be to quite a lot of saturation. We

:55:48. > :55:57.will have 20, 30 weeks a year of constant Bake Off, and even myself

:55:58. > :56:01.as a fan, it is a bit much. Let's go to Chetna defended what you think

:56:02. > :56:07.about this news. Good morning. Hello. I think it is very exciting,

:56:08. > :56:13.and I think what Mary Berry did for us bakers around the country through

:56:14. > :56:18.a bake off, she might do the same for cooking for all of us here.

:56:19. > :56:22.Channel 4 has criticised it, saying there are similarities and it has

:56:23. > :56:25.been called a rip-off. Does that bother you? Not really, because we

:56:26. > :56:31.don't know what Channel 4 are producing in the first place. With

:56:32. > :56:37.Bake Off. And we don't know any details about this show either, so

:56:38. > :56:40.no. Thank you. Scott, what do we not in terms of differences and

:56:41. > :56:44.similarities? This has been one of the most talked about stories of the

:56:45. > :56:48.past year? I would say one of the key differences is it will all be

:56:49. > :56:53.about cooking, and I think that is one of the most distinctive element

:56:54. > :56:57.about it, the fact that it is a show format that has not necessarily been

:56:58. > :57:01.done that much. We saw Masterchef with people really high up in their

:57:02. > :57:04.field who have been competing, and there is nothing necessarily varied

:57:05. > :57:10.you can try to do in your own home, and I think that will be kind of

:57:11. > :57:14.what the BBC will be aiming for as there are distinctiveness for this

:57:15. > :57:17.particular show. Apart from that, we don't know! So little detail, and I

:57:18. > :57:21.think everyone is so excited because Mary Berry is in it. This has made

:57:22. > :57:26.front-page news today, so why is everybody getting so excited? Do we

:57:27. > :57:32.know of any similarities? I think firstly tabloid and all of the media

:57:33. > :57:37.just like getting excited about the whole Bake Of journey that is

:57:38. > :57:43.happening. I think only us Brits can make a show that is a multi million

:57:44. > :57:48.success, back in the show, only leading to being bumped from one

:57:49. > :57:51.channel to another. So lots of questions over whether Channel 4

:57:52. > :57:55.will be able to make it a success, and then also about what will fill

:57:56. > :57:59.that gap, that whole, so that is why there is a much anticipation of

:58:00. > :58:02.this. I think unfortunately it will create a lot of pressure on this

:58:03. > :58:08.show to immediately be successful from the off. On the BBC show? Yes,

:58:09. > :58:11.the BBC One, because there will be a lot more pressure essentially about

:58:12. > :58:16.it, whereas I think with other programmes they will have some time

:58:17. > :58:20.to make themselves successful. All right, we will wait and see. I will

:58:21. > :58:24.be back tomorrow when we will be speaking to rugby union legend

:58:25. > :58:31.Johnny Wilkinson. Thank you for your company today. See you tomorrow.