03/08/2017

:00:07. > :00:09.Hello - it's Thursday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley

:00:10. > :00:13.in for Victoria, welcome to the programme.

:00:14. > :00:20.Mental health patients across the UK are spending years in treatment

:00:21. > :00:21.units awaiting discharge, according to figures

:00:22. > :00:28.I used to see other people, like, leaving before me and I'd be, like,

:00:29. > :00:31."Yeah, but I've been ready a long time, and I'm more equipped."

:00:32. > :00:40.We'll have all the details and ask why this is happening.

:00:41. > :00:43.One of the UK's major courier companies tells us they're taking

:00:44. > :00:51.action to protect their moped riders from acid atttacks.

:00:52. > :00:55.I was just knocking on the window of a few cars, I was just

:00:56. > :00:58.They're not opening because probably they were scared.

:00:59. > :01:01.I was really scared, I don't know what to do.

:01:02. > :01:10.We will show you the full report in 18 minutes. -- in a few minutes.

:01:11. > :01:13.And rugby legend Jonny Wilkinson is live in the studio

:01:14. > :01:15.to talk about his career and how his performance

:01:16. > :01:29.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:30. > :01:31.We're also talking about foster carers this morning and asking

:01:32. > :01:34.if they should get the same pay and employment rights

:01:35. > :01:37.If you've fostered children, is this something you'd support,

:01:38. > :01:41.or is it wrong to think of the role as a 'job' in the

:01:42. > :01:56.And keys that are causing delays at European airports this summer,

:01:57. > :01:59.there's a warning this morning that the situation shows no sign of

:02:00. > :02:01.improving. Do get in touch on all the stories

:02:02. > :02:05.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria live

:02:06. > :02:08.and If you text, you will be charged There are fresh concerns

:02:09. > :02:12.about the state of mental A BBC investigation has revealed

:02:13. > :02:16.that some patients are waiting more than three years to be discharged

:02:17. > :02:18.from hospital, despite being Figures, obtained through freedom

:02:19. > :02:21.of information requests, show that at least five patients

:02:22. > :02:24.waited more than 1,000 days. Hundreds of others have been waiting

:02:25. > :02:27.for more than six months. The government says the NHS

:02:28. > :02:29.is investing hundreds of millions of pounds to treat mental health

:02:30. > :02:31.patients in the community. Our social affairs correspondent,

:02:32. > :02:37.Michael Buchanan, reports. It helps when I'm bored or anything

:02:38. > :02:46.and I haven't got anything to do. Toni shows me round her home,

:02:47. > :02:49.where she lives with five other The 32-year-old suffers

:02:50. > :02:59.from schizophrenia and She has spent almost half her life

:03:00. > :03:02.in psychiatric hospitals. She moved here last year,

:03:03. > :03:04.though, and loves it. But arguments over who should pay

:03:05. > :03:07.for her care means she spent months longer in hospital

:03:08. > :03:09.than she needed to. I would see other people,

:03:10. > :03:12.like, leaving before me. I would be like, yeah,

:03:13. > :03:16.but I've been ready for a long time. Many psychiatric patients

:03:17. > :03:24.would recognise Toni's experience. We've discovered that at least five

:03:25. > :03:26.patients waited more than three While more than 200 spent six

:03:27. > :03:38.months longer in hospital Often, people are in a revolving

:03:39. > :03:42.door of hospital placement, and then a failed community

:03:43. > :03:45.placement, because that step So, by providing a comprehensive

:03:46. > :03:52.package of support, we hope The complex where Toni lives

:03:53. > :04:00.is is provided by a national charity The complex where Toni lives

:04:01. > :04:02.is provided by a national charity who say there aren't

:04:03. > :04:04.enough similar units. Toni says she will soon move

:04:05. > :04:09.into a small bungalow on the complex, a further step

:04:10. > :04:12.towards rebuilding her life. Too many mental health patients

:04:13. > :04:14.are being denied a similar chance. Speaking to the BBC a little

:04:15. > :04:23.earlier, Dr Arpan Dutta from the Royal College

:04:24. > :04:25.of Psychiatrists explained why health services are struggling

:04:26. > :04:35.to discharge patients. These services are quite fragmented,

:04:36. > :04:39.I suppose. That needs developing, in terms of integration of services.

:04:40. > :04:43.There is a big divide between health and social care. And, in a lot of

:04:44. > :04:48.placements for people are jointly funded. In my work, it is linking up

:04:49. > :04:54.with social workers, and with other professions, trying to identify

:04:55. > :04:58.appropriate placements for people. I suppose it is finding the right

:04:59. > :05:01.placement for the right person, and that is often creating a delay.

:05:02. > :05:03.Ben Brown is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:05:04. > :05:10.Children from the very poorest families in some parts of England

:05:11. > :05:12.are continuing to fall further behind at school.

:05:13. > :05:15.The Education Policy Institute says by the end of secondary school,

:05:16. > :05:25.the most disadvantaged children can be two years behind their peers.

:05:26. > :05:27.The government says it's directing an extra ?72 million

:05:28. > :05:32.It starts in primary school and widens in the years that follow,

:05:33. > :05:38.the attainment gap between poorer and wealthier children.

:05:39. > :05:40.Now, for some disadvantaged kids, that gap did close slightly

:05:41. > :05:47.But when you look at the very poorest children, it didn't.

:05:48. > :05:50.The report calculates that by the time they sit their GCSEs

:05:51. > :05:57.But the picture does vary nationwide.

:05:58. > :05:59.You can speculate that funding would be a factor in certain

:06:00. > :06:03.We know that aspirations are quite important,

:06:04. > :06:11.So, I think all of these things will be having - and more -

:06:12. > :06:15.Disadvantaged children are more likely to earn less in future

:06:16. > :06:22.Put simply, it leads to wasted potential.

:06:23. > :06:25.The Department for Education says there is over ?2 billion this year

:06:26. > :06:28.to support schools in this area, and money to help young

:06:29. > :06:32.people in so-called social mobility cold spots.

:06:33. > :06:35.Today's report acknowledges there has been progress overall

:06:36. > :06:44.but the conclusion - it's far too slow.

:06:45. > :06:47.If the rate of change over the last decade

:06:48. > :06:48.continues, the study says it

:06:49. > :06:51.would take a staggering 50 years before the gap is closed.

:06:52. > :06:55.The Venezuelan President, Nicolas Maduro, has dismissed

:06:56. > :06:56.allegations of fraud in the country's controversial

:06:57. > :06:59.A company based in London responsible for providing

:07:00. > :07:01.the voting system - has claimed electoral authorities

:07:02. > :07:06.inflated the turn-out figure by at least 1 million.

:07:07. > :07:14.The opposition has called for more mass demonstrations.

:07:15. > :07:18.A cot death charity has said that it will no longer endorse the use

:07:19. > :07:20.of Finnish-style baby boxes, designed for newborns to sleep in.

:07:21. > :07:23.The cardboard box - filled with baby products and a mattress -

:07:24. > :07:25.has been connected with low infant mortality rates in

:07:26. > :07:31.They're now given out to some new parents through the NHS,

:07:32. > :07:35.but the Lullaby Trust warns there is no evidence

:07:36. > :07:40.that they reduce the likelihood of sudden infant death syndrome.

:07:41. > :07:42.More than 200 buildings have failed fire safety tests,

:07:43. > :07:46.implemented in the wake of the Grenfell Tower fire.

:07:47. > :07:49.In the second in a set of six tests ordered by the government,

:07:50. > :07:54.100 high-rises failed to meet current regulations.

:07:55. > :07:56.The BBC has learnt that cladding and insulation panels failed

:07:57. > :08:02.the test within seven minutes of being set alight.

:08:03. > :08:05.The Chris Evans' Breakfast Show on Radio 2 has lost almost half

:08:06. > :08:07.a million listeners in the past year, according

:08:08. > :08:09.to the latest figures from the research body,

:08:10. > :08:13.Just over nine million people tuned in every week

:08:14. > :08:16.in the second quarter of 2017, compared to 9.4 million

:08:17. > :08:22.BBC Radio 4's Today programme has seen a surge in listeners,

:08:23. > :08:24.with 7.6 million people tuning in a week in the second

:08:25. > :08:31.Elsewhere, Nick Grimshaw's breakfast show on BBC Radio 1 added more

:08:32. > :08:34.than 350,000 listeners in the last quarter, drawing in 5.5

:08:35. > :08:43.The UK has become a nation of 'binge watchers' according to research

:08:44. > :08:49.New research suggests eight in ten adults now view multiple episodes

:08:50. > :08:53.of their favourite shows in a single sitting.

:08:54. > :08:59.Though most of us still watch at least some live TV each week.

:09:00. > :09:02.The food delivery company Deliveroo has told this programme it's

:09:03. > :09:10.bringing in new safety measures to protect drivers from attacks.

:09:11. > :09:13.It follows a wave of moped crime in London and horrific acid attacks

:09:14. > :09:15.where delivery drivers have been victims.

:09:16. > :09:17.Around 450 acid attacks were recorded by police

:09:18. > :09:22.The company says it's to introduce measures including the ability

:09:23. > :09:24.for drivers to report unsafe areas and trialling the use

:09:25. > :09:32.Health warnings are in place across Europe as temperatures reach

:09:33. > :09:37.A record-breaking heatwave is currently affecting

:09:38. > :09:39.swathes of the continent - from Romania to Spain and Portugal.

:09:40. > :09:44.As much of Europe sizzles, just what is the best

:09:45. > :09:52.An almost continent wide heatwave has pushed temperatures above 40

:09:53. > :09:54.Celsius, breaking records, and sending people and their pets

:09:55. > :10:12.In Austria, the elephants at Vienna zoo took to the pool to cool.

:10:13. > :10:15.The city's horses had to go home it was so hot.

:10:16. > :10:16.Others, though, weren't quite so lucky.

:10:17. > :10:19.The heat is centred on Italy, it's experiencing its worst

:10:20. > :10:34.11 of its 20 regions could soon declare a state of emergency.

:10:35. > :10:41.It is unusual to see temperatures above 40 degrees across such a large

:10:42. > :10:45.area but in packs keep coming from this with water shortages, power

:10:46. > :10:50.cuts in places but heat implications as well, with old people and those

:10:51. > :10:51.with existing health conditions really suffering in temperatures

:10:52. > :10:54.like this. After last week's wildfires

:10:55. > :10:56.in France, firefighters With dry conditions,

:10:57. > :11:00.risk of further fires is high. In southern Spain, forecasters

:11:01. > :11:03.described the weather as extreme. A high of 47 degrees

:11:04. > :11:15.is expected in Cordoba. Plumes of heat are pushing towards

:11:16. > :11:21.the Balkans, in Romania ice cream wasn't the only thing melting. But,

:11:22. > :11:25.work must go on. TRANSLATION: We are drinking a lot of water, we take

:11:26. > :11:30.more breaks and cut the working schedule. We work eight hours a day.

:11:31. > :11:36.In neighbouring Hungary, this steam gate helps people to cool off.

:11:37. > :11:41.TRANSLATION: When we go out, we put hats on the kids, factor 50 suncream

:11:42. > :11:47.on them and we try and stay in the shade. And, the advice is to drink

:11:48. > :11:53.plenty of water, and despite the leader of the Mediterranean sun, sea

:11:54. > :11:57.and sand, stay indoors during the hottest hours of the day -- lure of

:11:58. > :11:59.the Mediterranean sun. Sarah Caulker, BBC News.

:12:00. > :12:03.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:12:04. > :12:10.Later this hour, Jonny Wilkinson will be in the studio with me. Send

:12:11. > :12:13.us any questions you want us to ask him. He will be in with his

:12:14. > :12:14.performance coach who he says changed his life.

:12:15. > :12:17.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:12:18. > :12:20.use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

:12:21. > :12:29.Let's have a look at the sport, and the story everyone is talking about,

:12:30. > :12:34.Neymar's record move to PSG? But it's the cash

:12:35. > :12:37.everyone's talking about. So let take a look at

:12:38. > :12:39.the numbers quickly - he'll be paid about 80 pence

:12:40. > :12:43.a second and I've just had a look at his Twitter followers -

:12:44. > :12:46.he has 30 million so he's set to be You could probably buy four

:12:47. > :12:52.Kyle Walkers who joined Man City He is a great player -

:12:53. > :12:59.he scored 68 goals for Barcelona last season, he's pretty much

:13:00. > :13:02.a national hero in Brazil where he was born and grew up

:13:03. > :13:05.and that's where I first saw him play at the World Cup

:13:06. > :13:08.in Brazil three years ago and I thought he was incredible

:13:09. > :13:11.but lots of pressure on his shoulders -

:13:12. > :13:14.he's just 25 years old. while we're all flapping

:13:15. > :13:17.about the money there's one man who doesn't think the

:13:18. > :13:27.price tag is too bad. For 200 million, I do not think he

:13:28. > :13:34.is expensive. I think the fact that now you are going to have more

:13:35. > :13:40.players at 100 million, you will have more players of 80 million, and

:13:41. > :13:46.more players of 60 million... I think that is the problem. Neymar is

:13:47. > :13:47.one of the best players in the world. Always good value with Jose

:13:48. > :13:48.Mourinho. It's a story that's being reported

:13:49. > :13:51.all over the world - So in France the big headline

:13:52. > :14:01.there is - he arrives. Meanwhile in Barcelona

:14:02. > :14:02.it's Hasta Nunca - which basically means see you never

:14:03. > :14:07.or good riddance. Here the FT are talking

:14:08. > :14:10.about the record transfer - and Spanish Newspaper Mundo

:14:11. > :14:12.Deportivo is looking at how Barca may spend their little nest egg

:14:13. > :14:14.with Liverpool forward Phillipe Coutinho high on their list

:14:15. > :14:17.- although the Reds boss Jurgen Klopp says Coutinho isn't

:14:18. > :14:19.leaving Anfield this summer - even if the Catalan side came

:14:20. > :14:30.in with an offer in the region A staggering amount of money on

:14:31. > :14:35.offer there. Incredible sums of money, but

:14:36. > :14:38.meanwhile, the England Lionesses are looking to reach the finals of the

:14:39. > :14:40.year is tonight? Yes, a brilliant story.

:14:41. > :14:42.England's women are looking to make the final.

:14:43. > :14:43.They're taking on hosts, the Netherlands.

:14:44. > :14:46.There's good news and bad news with England chances so get the bad

:14:47. > :14:49.news out the way first - they're missing two key players.

:14:50. > :14:52.So despite looking good in training here the Lionesses

:14:53. > :14:55.won't have keeper Karen Bardsley - she's out because of injury replaced

:14:56. > :14:57.by Siobhan Chamberlain and they're also without midfielder Jill Scott.

:14:58. > :15:00.But the good news - they're still the highest-ranked

:15:01. > :15:06.And their record is pretty good - they've won all four games

:15:07. > :15:08.so far, scored 11 goals and only conceded one.

:15:09. > :15:10.They'll be looking to go one better than two years ago

:15:11. > :15:14.where they were knocked out in the semi finals of the World Cup.

:15:15. > :15:16.For Chamberlain - she's ready to step up

:15:17. > :15:28.If I can push KP as hard as possible, likewise with the rest of

:15:29. > :15:33.us, we can push one another to be the best. Ultimately I want to be

:15:34. > :15:38.out there playing and if I can make other best she can be to stop

:15:39. > :15:41.myself, that's the best way. We do not want the misfortune of others to

:15:42. > :15:46.be playing but if it happens you have to grasp it with both hands.

:15:47. > :15:49.I've been around some good sports people, these players work as hard

:15:50. > :15:53.as anyone I've ever worked with or seen. They are absolutely obsessed

:15:54. > :15:58.with being the best they can be. Now they have these two skills in

:15:59. > :16:01.abundance, the sky is the limit for this group.

:16:02. > :16:02.All of the build-up and full commentary is available on BBC

:16:03. > :16:08.Radio five Live from seven o'clock. We will be watching, thank you.

:16:09. > :16:10.The very poorest schoolchildren are falling up to two years

:16:11. > :16:13.behind their better off classmates by the time they finish

:16:14. > :16:16.That's according to a new report by the Education Policy Institute.

:16:17. > :16:19.It's based on data from all state schools, and suggests that

:16:20. > :16:21.youngsters who have spent the majority of their time

:16:22. > :16:23.at secondary school on free school dinners -

:16:24. > :16:26.a key measure of poverty - are increasingly lagging behind

:16:27. > :16:32.The Department for Education says the attainment gap has narrowed over

:16:33. > :16:34.the past six years and ?2.5 billion of extra funding

:16:35. > :16:40.is being invested in schools to help the most disadvantaged pupils.

:16:41. > :16:47.She's a single parent of four children.

:16:48. > :16:51.She works part-time but has had to rely on benefits to make ends meet.

:16:52. > :16:53.Her youngest son is 17 and just doing his exams.

:16:54. > :16:55.And Tash Moriarty, head teacher of Harefield Academy in Watford.

:16:56. > :17:03.She has done a lot of work focusing on helping disadvantaged children.

:17:04. > :17:12.I will start with you, four kids, single parent, you been on benefits

:17:13. > :17:17.as well. Yep. Tell us about the financial pressures you were put

:17:18. > :17:21.under. They are sort of universal to most people, but when you are on a

:17:22. > :17:27.very, very low fixed income, it is hard to budget, it is hard to make

:17:28. > :17:31.sure that you are providing for your children, especially things like

:17:32. > :17:38.educational trips. Even down to things like good diet. Paying all

:17:39. > :17:42.your bills. Really bringing up healthy children is the most

:17:43. > :17:50.important thing. So how did that affect their attainment at school?

:17:51. > :17:54.I'm not really sure. My youngest son, who is 17 now, when he was

:17:55. > :18:00.doing his GCSEs in 2016, we got to the point where it was looking as

:18:01. > :18:15.though he wasn't going to be able to obtain a Seagrave in maths. -- a C

:18:16. > :18:19.in maths. I had to pay for a Chuter. That cost about ?60 per lesson, so I

:18:20. > :18:24.could only do that -- pay for a tutor. I had to scrimp and save to

:18:25. > :18:32.find that money, but I was amazed. He got a B. So it made a difference,

:18:33. > :18:38.but what I found really interesting was the fact that the tutor said it

:18:39. > :18:44.was confidence. Confidence. And I think that is a huge problem with

:18:45. > :18:49.children from underprivileged backgrounds, confidence. Shouldn't

:18:50. > :18:54.that be taught in schools? Is that what you were paying money for,

:18:55. > :19:02.essentially, to instil confidence in your children? No, obviously schools

:19:03. > :19:05.play a part in instilling confidence, but if you are in an

:19:06. > :19:10.environment where a lot of children have privilege, holidays, and you

:19:11. > :19:15.don't, you can't really connect with those kind of children. I don't know

:19:16. > :19:20.because I have never been a teacher, so I don't know how teachers view

:19:21. > :19:24.children from different backgrounds. I don't know if it is something they

:19:25. > :19:29.can spot straightaway or if they feel maybe it is just too much hard

:19:30. > :19:34.work to help a child who is experiencing difficulties. It is a

:19:35. > :19:43.balance between home life and school life, but poverty at home can affect

:19:44. > :19:53.things like where you live. Overcrowding. The pressures of the

:19:54. > :19:56.adult at home are so great that maybe sometimes seeing how your

:19:57. > :20:02.children are doing kind of gets put to one side a little bit. Do you

:20:03. > :20:07.think it makes a difference if other children from that school also from

:20:08. > :20:12.an disadvantaged background, or is it worse if they are not? I always

:20:13. > :20:19.feel that a school should be a really good mix, neither all

:20:20. > :20:24.middle-class children, or under privileged children. A mix is what

:20:25. > :20:26.you need as long as the children who are lacking confidence are brought

:20:27. > :20:33.up to the level that the privileged children are. What are the kind of

:20:34. > :20:38.disadvantages children face in your school? Amanda has picked up on

:20:39. > :20:44.them, there are some practical ones, access to resources, so if you are

:20:45. > :20:52.in an environment where there are limited advantages. The facilities

:20:53. > :20:56.of the home environment can impact. If there is overcrowding, as has

:20:57. > :20:59.already been alluded to, it makes it very difficult to find the right

:21:00. > :21:04.kind of space to affect homework positively. Homework is a

:21:05. > :21:09.significantly important part of a child's development. We factor in a

:21:10. > :21:15.large portion of time that is required to reinforce the curriculum

:21:16. > :21:18.through homework time and if the facilities that a child has at home

:21:19. > :21:21.to complete that homework effectively are not up to scratch,

:21:22. > :21:25.it is very difficult for the child to succeed in the same way. Some of

:21:26. > :21:32.those practical elements are very important. They are very

:21:33. > :21:38.characteristic of socially disadvantaged families and how gaps

:21:39. > :21:43.can be created through those areas. So for example funding music

:21:44. > :21:47.activities, arts activities, dance lessons, drama lessons, all of those

:21:48. > :21:50.kinds of creative activities and sports activities cost an awful lot

:21:51. > :21:53.of money. No question that they motivate a child, they add to a

:21:54. > :21:59.child's confidence, their aspiration and resilience. If you could capture

:22:00. > :22:06.into words what the biggest difference is between socially

:22:07. > :22:08.disadvantaged and advantage committed their natural resilience

:22:09. > :22:17.and aspiration. Much of that comes from from home environment. Mandy is

:22:18. > :22:23.a very important active parent who has supported her child as much as

:22:24. > :22:29.possible. Families from a lower financially vulnerable background

:22:30. > :22:34.often would be there are generations within that family of low

:22:35. > :22:38.aspiration, that there is no history of anyone in that family aspiring of

:22:39. > :22:41.going to university or further education, and in that environment

:22:42. > :22:46.it is very difficult for children to break through to recognise a reason

:22:47. > :22:49.to want to aspire any higher. It puts an inordinate amount of

:22:50. > :22:52.pressure on schools to try and raise that aspiration. We have talked

:22:53. > :22:56.about the research already and what that shows. One of the main things

:22:57. > :23:03.it shows actually around disadvantaged students that they are

:23:04. > :23:06.mostly impacted by low aspiration and low academic self-concept, so if

:23:07. > :23:15.they believe is they are not going to achieve it is difficult to

:23:16. > :23:22.improve that. So you are saying it is down to low aspiration? Yes, it

:23:23. > :23:27.is a very complex matter, but low aspiration of the family for the

:23:28. > :23:31.child, low academic self-concept and belief in what they are capable of

:23:32. > :23:39.achieving and all of those have a knock-on effect in the class. It

:23:40. > :23:43.often manifests as a lack of confidence, a lack of emotional

:23:44. > :23:45.resilience in the classroom, an unwillingness perhaps to share

:23:46. > :23:49.experiences, to voice their opinions, having access to the right

:23:50. > :23:53.vocabulary to voice their opinions, those sorts of things. If as we are

:23:54. > :24:00.hearing today it will take 50 years to close that gap, what can be done

:24:01. > :24:03.to speed that up? The first thing to say is measuring that gap is key. 50

:24:04. > :24:07.years to close that gap is largely based on statistics that report on

:24:08. > :24:11.payment as opposed to progress. There has been a move in the last

:24:12. > :24:16.few years to shift that and a report on student progress as opposed to

:24:17. > :24:21.student attainment. Attainment is a threshold measure, there is no

:24:22. > :24:24.reason to suggest that children should be aspiring to a particular

:24:25. > :24:27.threshold, we ought to be looking to get them to progress within their

:24:28. > :24:31.capabilities. We need to recognise in closing that gap that it starts

:24:32. > :24:35.very young, the most damage is done in the first five years of a child's

:24:36. > :24:41.life, which is very much informed by what goes at home. As opposed to

:24:42. > :24:44.school. The other important thing to the standards that June from

:24:45. > :24:49.socially disadvantaged families, the Gavern progress and attainment will

:24:50. > :24:51.grow much faster than those from advantaged backgrounds, and

:24:52. > :24:55.consequently once those gaps exist, if they are not address they will

:24:56. > :25:00.become wider, and the gap in the child's achievement will continue to

:25:01. > :25:04.grow. So it is very important first of all to go back and look at the

:25:05. > :25:08.parenting side and look at support that can be given to parents, and

:25:09. > :25:12.that comes in the early years as much as it does in schooling. There

:25:13. > :25:25.needs to be an awful lot funding put into schools. One thing the pupil

:25:26. > :25:28.premium will be maintained at ?2.5 billion, coming back to the point

:25:29. > :25:33.about parenting, what extra support would you need as a parent, would

:25:34. > :25:38.you be calling for? That is a really hard actually. I suppose for me I

:25:39. > :25:45.have always been puzzled where the pupil premium has gone, what exactly

:25:46. > :25:52.is that used for. So for example with my son having difficulties in

:25:53. > :25:59.attaining the C in maths. That was recognised from the school that he

:26:00. > :26:04.was on the sort of D scale, so why wasn't, say, the pupil premium used

:26:05. > :26:10.in such a way to help them? Instead, he came home, they are saying he

:26:11. > :26:17.can't get a C, what am I going to do? And so I had to deal with that,

:26:18. > :26:22.I had to really dig deep, and I knew I could pay the three months. If I

:26:23. > :26:27.did not pay for that three months, and he didn't get a grade C, he

:26:28. > :26:33.would not have been able to stay on for his A-levels, and that could

:26:34. > :26:38.have had a huge consequence as it has gone on. So I am really

:26:39. > :26:41.intrigued as to what exactly pupil premium is used for. Is it

:26:42. > :26:46.specifically targeted for the children who it was meant for? It is

:26:47. > :26:49.supposed to go to individual children but the reality is it does

:26:50. > :26:50.not always but that is a whole other conversation. Thank you for coming

:26:51. > :27:02.in. The Department for Education gave us

:27:03. > :27:44.the statement. Coming up, England rugby legend

:27:45. > :27:47.Jonny Wilkinson will be live in the studio to talk

:27:48. > :27:49.about how his sporting coach After the Grenfell Tower disaster,

:27:50. > :27:56.3,000 residents living in a building with similar cladding

:27:57. > :28:00.in the Chalcots Estate in Camden were told to pack up and leave

:28:01. > :28:03.so urgent safety work could be done. Six weeks on - the Council says

:28:04. > :28:06.the work is complete Residents have now been told

:28:07. > :28:09.to return to their flats. But some have told the BBC that -

:28:10. > :28:12.despite millions of pounds being spent on the evacuation -

:28:13. > :28:15.the work that's been done is shoddy and incomplete

:28:16. > :28:19.and puts lives at risk. Our reporter Sangita Myska

:28:20. > :28:32.can tell us more. What was the urgent work that needed

:28:33. > :28:36.doing? As you just mentioned, after the grand full disaster, the London

:28:37. > :28:42.Fire Brigade went into the Charcot 's estate and carried out advanced

:28:43. > :28:47.safety checks the fire. Four of those towers needed urgent internal

:28:48. > :28:51.work done in the communal areas of the flats to keep residents say. As

:28:52. > :28:54.you say, we all remember those pictures of all those thousands of

:28:55. > :29:00.people pouring out of their flats, given a few hours to pack up and

:29:01. > :29:04.find hotel rooms. What London Fire Brigade wanted was a range of

:29:05. > :29:07.measures to stop fire and smoke spreading from one part of the

:29:08. > :29:10.building to another. The aim obviously is to limit the risk of

:29:11. > :29:16.injury and death in the event of a fire. Camden council say the work is

:29:17. > :29:20.complete, it has been signed off by buildings inspectors from two other

:29:21. > :29:23.councils may have been working closely with the London Fire

:29:24. > :29:27.Brigade. But residents I have spoken to say they are really alarmed by

:29:28. > :29:32.the quality of the work. They say it is shoddy, incomplete and poses a

:29:33. > :29:37.potential risk. You have been down there, what did you see? I was shown

:29:38. > :29:41.around one of those towers. I ought to say that Camden council did ask

:29:42. > :29:49.us not to record inside. We went ahead. I was shown around by one

:29:50. > :29:54.resident around a tower called Taplow. 23 stories high. He showed

:29:55. > :29:59.me a range of work at various residents believe is shoddy. Let's

:30:00. > :30:04.take a look at the fire doors was to be can see seals, which are supposed

:30:05. > :30:08.to be fire and smoke resistant. I think we can argue that work is

:30:09. > :30:19.questionable since those seals only went up a week or so ago. That fire

:30:20. > :30:26.door runs to the only fire stairs. It does not in fact shut. Moving on

:30:27. > :30:32.to the staircases that that leads on to, if you have a look there, at the

:30:33. > :30:37.edge of each staircase you should have a working, fit for purpose

:30:38. > :30:43.black strip, a nonslip strip that I dearly can be seen in the dark. You

:30:44. > :30:47.can see it is very badly worn away. On those sets of stairs there were

:30:48. > :30:52.no strips at all, that was quite good compared to some of the others.

:30:53. > :30:55.Let's move on to the front door of flats, should have been sealed at

:30:56. > :30:58.the top and the bottom and around that letterbox. On that letterbox

:30:59. > :31:03.there was no sealant at all. If you skip to the next photo, you can see

:31:04. > :31:08.at the bottom, when it comes up, at the bottom of that particular door,

:31:09. > :31:12.the gap was so big that I was able to fit my entire hand underneath.

:31:13. > :31:20.That is a close-up on another front door. That close is supposed to bang

:31:21. > :31:23.doors shut. When you run out, there is a fire in your flat, the whole

:31:24. > :31:26.idea is that you will get your possessions, grab your kids and ran

:31:27. > :31:31.outside and hopefully the door will shut behind you. Contain that fire.

:31:32. > :31:36.That was either missing or broking on several front doors.

:31:37. > :31:44.I've shown these photographs to two experts, one was categoric, he says

:31:45. > :31:49.that he does not believe that this tower is safe to live in. He has

:31:50. > :31:53.gone in and he has done his own look around, that is his opinion. After

:31:54. > :31:57.these repairs have been done? After these repairs have been done and

:31:58. > :32:01.signed off. Then, the other expert told us as far as he was concerned,

:32:02. > :32:05.just looking at those photos, he believed the work has not been

:32:06. > :32:12.carried out to British safety standards. And what about the inside

:32:13. > :32:15.of the flats? This is really interesting, Tina, when the enhanced

:32:16. > :32:20.safety checks were undertaken, it would appear, at least, they were

:32:21. > :32:25.not done on the insides of the flat. I was actually recording a piece for

:32:26. > :32:30.radio, and as we went around the building, we saw several issues. All

:32:31. > :32:35.of which are on BBC Online, viewers can see the photographs and other

:32:36. > :32:44.issues. We were asked to stop recording, I was asked to go into

:32:45. > :32:47.someone else's flat, she asked me to go in she wanted to show me

:32:48. > :32:49.something. There was a room where electric cables come out the fuse

:32:50. > :32:53.box and electric meters. There were a lot of exposed cables, boxed in

:32:54. > :32:59.with cardboard. She alleges the boxing in with cardboard was done by

:33:00. > :33:05.Camden Council contracted electricians. Take a look, the

:33:06. > :33:09.cables run right into her ceiling. The ceiling, obviously, this is the

:33:10. > :33:13.ground floor of the tower. The ceiling obviously adjoins to the

:33:14. > :33:17.flat upstairs. This goes right to the heart of what the urgent works

:33:18. > :33:21.were about, which was containment. Making sure that if a fire breaks

:33:22. > :33:25.out it is contained in a limited area, allowing people to get out. On

:33:26. > :33:31.the outside of these blocks, I should mention, all four blocks, is

:33:32. > :33:34.cladding which is very similar, not the same, but similar to that used

:33:35. > :33:41.at the Grenfell Tower and today we have seen that story about fire

:33:42. > :33:46.safety checks being undertaken for a second time. Obviously, this is of

:33:47. > :33:49.great alarm and worry to some of the residents living there. In light of

:33:50. > :33:53.everything you have shown us, what has the response been from Camden

:33:54. > :33:58.Council and the fire brigade? We have put every one of these very

:33:59. > :34:05.specific allegations to Camden Council. We invited the council

:34:06. > :34:10.leader life, and I'm sorry to say she declined other invitation. The

:34:11. > :34:12.council said the urgent work was signed off and undertaken

:34:13. > :34:17.immediately, signed off from building control in two other London

:34:18. > :34:20.boroughs, Lambeth and Westminster, and they worked closely with the

:34:21. > :34:21.London Fire Brigade. Thank you very much.

:34:22. > :34:31.A delivery driver tells us about the moment but as it was thrown into his

:34:32. > :34:36.face. And rugby champion Jonny Wilkinson joins us in the studio in

:34:37. > :34:40.a few minutes time. Send in any questions you want us to ask him.

:34:41. > :34:46.Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:34:47. > :34:50.Some mental health patients are waiting three years to be

:34:51. > :34:52.discharged from hospital, despite being medically fit to leave.

:34:53. > :34:54.Figures, obtained by the BBC through freedom of information

:34:55. > :34:59.requests, show that at least five patients waited more

:35:00. > :35:11.Meanwhile, hundreds more have been waiting for more than six months.

:35:12. > :35:14.Children from the very poorest families in some parts of England

:35:15. > :35:16.are continuing to fall further behind at school.

:35:17. > :35:18.The Education Policy Institute says by the end of secondary school,

:35:19. > :35:21.the most disadvantaged children can be two years behind their peers.

:35:22. > :35:23.The government says it's directing an extra 72-million-pounds

:35:24. > :35:27.into areas with low social mobility.

:35:28. > :35:29.The Venezuelan President, Nicolas Maduro, has dismissed

:35:30. > :35:31.allegations of fraud in the country's controversial

:35:32. > :35:38.A company based in London responsible for providing

:35:39. > :35:42.the voting system - has claimed electoral authorities

:35:43. > :35:44.inflated the turn-out figure by at least 1 million.

:35:45. > :35:53.The opposition has called for more mass demonstrations.

:35:54. > :35:56.A cot death charity has said that it will no longer endorse the use

:35:57. > :35:59.of Finnish-style baby boxes, designed for newborns to sleep in.

:36:00. > :36:02.The cardboard box - filled with baby products and a mattress -

:36:03. > :36:04.has been connected with low infant mortality rates in

:36:05. > :36:08.They're now given out to some new parents through the NHS,

:36:09. > :36:10.but the Lullaby Trust warns there is no evidence

:36:11. > :36:19.that they reduce the likelihood of sudden infant death syndrome.

:36:20. > :36:24.That's a summary of the latest BBC News. More from me at ten o'clock.

:36:25. > :36:27.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.

:36:28. > :36:30.Brazilian striker Neymar could become the World's most

:36:31. > :36:33.He's expected to complete his transfer from Barcelona

:36:34. > :36:38.to Paris Saint Germain for just under 200 million pounds.

:36:39. > :36:41.He's likely to earn three quarters of a million pounds a week.

:36:42. > :36:44.We're less than 11 hours away now from England's Euro 2017 semi final

:36:45. > :36:53.Manager Mark Sampson says their mission isn't just

:36:54. > :36:56.to become the best team in Europe - but the best team in the world.

:36:57. > :36:59.Celtic are just one tie away from the group stages

:37:00. > :37:02.James Forrest's strike helped the Scottish champions past

:37:03. > :37:07.The draw for the playoff round will take place tomorrow.

:37:08. > :37:13.And, breaking news that has reached us in the last few minutes. The

:37:14. > :37:17.former world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko has announced his

:37:18. > :37:21.retirement from boxing. It had been expected that the 41-year-old would

:37:22. > :37:25.announce a rematch with Anthony Joshua, who beat him in April at

:37:26. > :37:29.Wembley for the world heavyweight title. More on that just after ten.

:37:30. > :37:32.He changed my life" - that's how England rugby

:37:33. > :37:34.legend Jonny Wilkinson describes his kicking

:37:35. > :37:39.He's an elite performance coach - who started out teaching economics

:37:40. > :37:42.in a secondary school and ended up coaching some of the biggest names

:37:43. > :37:45.in sport - including golfers Luke Donald and Padraig Harrington,

:37:46. > :37:47.the England Rugby team and British Lions,

:37:48. > :37:53.the England Cricket team and Manchester City.

:37:54. > :37:56.Dr Dave Alred has written a book called the Pressure Principle -

:37:57. > :37:59.which he says can help everyone manage stress and perform

:38:00. > :38:04.Jonny Wilkinson and Dr Dave Alred are here -

:38:05. > :38:08.and we'll speak to them shortly - do get in touch now if you do

:38:09. > :38:12.But first let's have a look at some of Jonny Wilkinson's most

:38:13. > :38:21.# I feel the chemicals burn in my bloodstream

:38:22. > :39:19.Jonny Wilkinson is here - with his elite performance

:39:20. > :39:28.Do you ever get fed up of watching your best bits back? I don't do it a

:39:29. > :39:32.huge amount any more to be honest! They are great things but not my

:39:33. > :39:37.best bets, as Dave will allude to, the best bits are always to come.

:39:38. > :39:41.You describe Dave as a genius who changed your life, why? And the bank

:39:42. > :39:45.during that time in my life, I was at the point, like a lot of people

:39:46. > :39:52.are, where they feel there is a limit, that they have reached a

:39:53. > :39:56.point where they cannot go any further. When was that? Early for

:39:57. > :40:00.me, 16 or 17, that was when the process started. I was after

:40:01. > :40:04.perfection, I reached a point where I was living accidentally. Some days

:40:05. > :40:09.it was good, others it was not great. What Dave did for me, he

:40:10. > :40:15.opened my eyes to space, space for improvement and space to move and to

:40:16. > :40:20.grow. That space, as Dave will mention as well, is not out there,

:40:21. > :40:25.but it is in you already. It just needs revealing. What you have

:40:26. > :40:32.uncovered is not your limit, and going beyond those is where

:40:33. > :40:35.everything in life exists. Beyond what you think. Dave began my

:40:36. > :40:39.journey to discovering that space and I've been on that journey ever

:40:40. > :40:45.since. It has been amazing. Talk to me about that journey, when did you

:40:46. > :40:50.work with Jonny? And how much progress has he made since then?

:40:51. > :40:53.Poo-mac the progress has been magnificent book the number one

:40:54. > :40:59.thing was when he turned up at the age of 16 at Loughborough

:41:00. > :41:05.University, it was just a case of me thinking, OK, I had already got in

:41:06. > :41:08.my mind about wherever you are now, you can get better. It does not

:41:09. > :41:18.matter who you are. I started working then. What really impressed

:41:19. > :41:23.me was the intensity in which he wanted to get better. I think that

:41:24. > :41:30.intensity, you know, has been justly rewarded. It is a thing that goes on

:41:31. > :41:34.throughout your life, and in terms of the media, people are just

:41:35. > :41:40.looking at a playing career but, for me, it is well beyond that. It is

:41:41. > :41:45.just a question of, you know, I am here today. Tomorrow I am going to

:41:46. > :41:49.be better. And, I am going to look back and see how I have improved

:41:50. > :41:55.from last week. Nearly anybody can do that in any walk of life. And, I

:41:56. > :42:00.think the other issue is, which is really important, is so many people

:42:01. > :42:04.focus on what they cannot do as a starting point. Then, they try and

:42:05. > :42:09.look to improve that. I would rather focus on what you can do as a

:42:10. > :42:14.starting point. Then, improve everything. Dave, you say in your

:42:15. > :42:20.book that you believe Jonny was a better rugby player in 2014 and he

:42:21. > :42:26.was at the peak of his career in 2003. Why? I felt bad when you work

:42:27. > :42:30.with somebody a lot, you see them in practice and you see what they do in

:42:31. > :42:34.games, there are certain things where you see a benchmark of

:42:35. > :42:42.improvement. I think that, statistically, he was, excuse the

:42:43. > :42:45.embarrassment here, but statistically a better player and

:42:46. > :42:53.more balanced player, and more able to manage what was going on around

:42:54. > :42:59.him. I felt that, by then, for whatever reason, we had really got

:43:00. > :43:04.onto the bandwagon, getting in what we call the ugly zone, working on

:43:05. > :43:09.and enjoying it. It sounds strange, to enjoy failing, but it is enjoying

:43:10. > :43:17.where you start making mistakes, and then getting better from that. I

:43:18. > :43:21.felt that the time in Toulon, in my opinion, was long overdue, in terms

:43:22. > :43:26.of being in a different environment where you have control, and even to

:43:27. > :43:33.the last week, where we worked together in Paris, we did something

:43:34. > :43:38.for the first time. It is just the thrill of finding things that you

:43:39. > :43:45.can do differently and better at the margin. What did you do? New

:43:46. > :43:48.training ideas. What I was going to say is that when you are so sure of

:43:49. > :43:53.who you are and everything, and how life works, you are on a journey

:43:54. > :43:59.which is narrowing to a point. Until 2003 I was so sure everything should

:44:00. > :44:03.be. Going past that point, you have to make decisions. When you go on a

:44:04. > :44:08.journey going away from a point and into open space, it is about the

:44:09. > :44:12.ugly zone. Anything that feels ugly and uncomfortable, it is normally

:44:13. > :44:16.outside of your journey. Even in the last week or last few days, we were

:44:17. > :44:22.looking at roles, ideas, for processes, fixes, feelings and

:44:23. > :44:28.preparations, to challenge what is there so when the day comes, you are

:44:29. > :44:32.in as big a space, spontaneous and creative, but also as focused and

:44:33. > :44:36.controlled as you could ever be. It is really a choice. That's the

:44:37. > :44:40.amazing thing. It can be a feeling of compulsion. This is how it has to

:44:41. > :44:45.be, it never has to be any certain way. I know it challenges people in

:44:46. > :44:50.so many situations but from the sporting perspective, you are

:44:51. > :44:54.ultimately the creator of your own parameters. And come easy live

:44:55. > :44:58.within them. If you do not like that feeling, you have to expand and

:44:59. > :45:02.break them and open them right up. What was the turning point for you?

:45:03. > :45:06.When did you realise, in your own life, sporting career or a

:45:07. > :45:09.combination of both, that you had managed to control how you were

:45:10. > :45:12.dealing with things, and dealing with the pressure? And, were

:45:13. > :45:18.comfortable in how you were dealing with it? For me, it was nothing to

:45:19. > :45:24.do with sport. My work with Dave within the sport was amazing, making

:45:25. > :45:28.so much sense the entire time. I was a pretty petulant child, sometimes,

:45:29. > :45:32.during some training sessions... He can give you many examples of that,

:45:33. > :45:38.I'm sure! But the actual moment for me came through mental health. That

:45:39. > :45:41.struggle there is a perfect way of understanding who you believe

:45:42. > :45:45.yourself to be and what you believe yourself to be is not real. That is

:45:46. > :45:51.the whole point, it exists in your mind as an identity to function as

:45:52. > :45:56.well. It is nothing to do with existentially who you are. If you

:45:57. > :46:00.confuse the two, you end up in a dark place and mental health gave me

:46:01. > :46:04.an opportunity and space between the two. They presented me with that in

:46:05. > :46:08.and around sport. I was not conscious of seeing it. Because,

:46:09. > :46:13.Dave was almost allaying the path for me. That mental health allowed

:46:14. > :46:16.me to see the path with my own eyes and that's why I appreciate him more

:46:17. > :46:27.than ever and I also understand the depth of what he was doing and what

:46:28. > :46:30.he has written about in his book. That consciously, when you look at

:46:31. > :46:33.it, it makes so much more sense at the time, I said it seems to work to

:46:34. > :46:37.keep going but that is what real coaches do.

:46:38. > :46:42.Can you talk this through your approach, when it comes to elite

:46:43. > :46:45.athletes and the teams and individuals who have worked with,

:46:46. > :46:50.they are under a unique and immense amount of pressure in a very public

:46:51. > :46:57.arena. I think the problem we have is that sport team, and if you

:46:58. > :47:04.excuse, the media, and if the media is stories we tell ourselves about

:47:05. > :47:08.ourselves is always result driven, and results are outcomes, and once

:47:09. > :47:13.people start focusing on the outcome and lose the point of the process,

:47:14. > :47:17.in other words, you know, I teach you the process and we adhere to

:47:18. > :47:22.that process, no matter what. And it is getting people to understand that

:47:23. > :47:27.that's the key. That once we start worrying about the outcome of, then

:47:28. > :47:31.we are in trouble. And I think in anything you do, what is the

:47:32. > :47:36.process, what are the fundamentals? You might say to me, well, Dave, if

:47:37. > :47:44.I was teaching you the goalkick, for example. Well, we could try! There

:47:45. > :47:47.are no limits! If I teach you the goalkick, I might say keep your eye

:47:48. > :47:50.on the ball, and you might say to me I can see the ball but I can also

:47:51. > :47:54.see the target and I'm worried about this and that. But if I say to you I

:47:55. > :47:59.want you to see the piece of stitching on the ball, that becomes

:48:00. > :48:02.so engaging, that that displaces everything else. The minute I said

:48:03. > :48:08.to you instead of just hitting the target, I want to hit a spot in the

:48:09. > :48:15.middle of the target. Consciously I lock you into that process, and

:48:16. > :48:19.practice is about looking into that process over and over again, so when

:48:20. > :48:22.it comes to the day of reckoning, it doesn't matter where you are, if you

:48:23. > :48:29.see the stitching and the spot, the ball goes over. OK, well, may be in

:48:30. > :48:33.your case it would. Well, not all the time. So if it is a

:48:34. > :48:35.high-pressure situation, it is a World Cup and you are taking that

:48:36. > :48:39.decisive kick, what is going through your mind and how do you approach

:48:40. > :48:44.that situation, with what you have learned from Dave? As Dave was

:48:45. > :48:48.saying about the outcome side driving the fear of failure and the

:48:49. > :48:52.anxiety and that side of it, it is impossible to commit to something

:48:53. > :48:55.you don't want to happen. So fear of failure might give you a motivation

:48:56. > :48:58.of sorts, but you cannot fully commit everything you have got

:48:59. > :49:01.something you don't want to happen, you can't protect and go after

:49:02. > :49:04.something at the same time. When you release it through excitement and

:49:05. > :49:09.passion, you automatically engage every part of you, so that whole

:49:10. > :49:12.thing becomes about a desire. A desire to make things happen, to put

:49:13. > :49:16.the ball on that exact area, to visualise it, to get excited about

:49:17. > :49:21.how good this can be. As soon as you open that space of positive

:49:22. > :49:23.proactive motivation, it becomes a process of acceleration that

:49:24. > :49:29.continues through the event and be on the event, and in any walk of

:49:30. > :49:34.life, and in any dictionary as well you will always see the definition

:49:35. > :49:37.of an event comes afterwards. Even in the dictionary, there is the word

:49:38. > :49:40.and then the definition comes afterwards. A goalkick, it doesn't

:49:41. > :49:43.stop at the goalkick, life doesn't stop at the event can you continue

:49:44. > :49:48.beyond it and you make it inevitable. Any thoughts about what

:49:49. > :49:54.may have. You are accelerating. It is the whole point of hesitancy. As

:49:55. > :49:56.it gets to the ball, it slows down, in golf, but as you accelerate

:49:57. > :49:59.beyond you define what happens before because you link it into a

:50:00. > :50:03.straight process, which is what they've is talking about. So that

:50:04. > :50:07.desire to go beyond has to come through excitement and passion. That

:50:08. > :50:10.is what happens in those events, you have define your own reason for the

:50:11. > :50:15.excitement and passion, how good could this moment be? Not what

:50:16. > :50:17.happens it isn't. And then how do you deal with failure, which is

:50:18. > :50:25.overseeing an important part of that process. There is no such thing as

:50:26. > :50:29.failure. There is an unintended outcome, but there is no failure.

:50:30. > :50:33.That is interesting how the language, and Jonny were saying

:50:34. > :50:36.about excitement and enjoying it, I think the problem we have is that if

:50:37. > :50:41.you look at a five-year-old, when they do something well, they enjoy

:50:42. > :50:46.it, they vibrate with excitement. They are reinforcing the behaviour

:50:47. > :50:51.they want to repeat. As adults, we tend not to, we are Joe Cool when it

:50:52. > :50:54.goes right, but when something goes wrong, there is a whole song and

:50:55. > :51:01.dance and a tantrum that goes with it. So we are in fact reinforcing

:51:02. > :51:06.the very behaviour we don't want. So, if you like, I am trying to

:51:07. > :51:09.rekindle the five-year-old excitement in a way to reinforce

:51:10. > :51:13.behaviour want to repeat, and success and the ball going in the

:51:14. > :51:16.right place or the putt going in the hole, or the drive going down the

:51:17. > :51:22.centre of the fairway, or whatever it is. You should enjoy it. And we

:51:23. > :51:26.tend not to. I think we have lost enjoyment. So it is almost stripping

:51:27. > :51:30.away that social conditioning, worrying about what people think and

:51:31. > :51:34.being in the moment? I was going to say about the failure thing as well,

:51:35. > :51:38.now if I have a failure in my life, I love it, because if everything

:51:39. > :51:44.turns out as you expect, you cannot grow. If this interview you are

:51:45. > :51:47.doing now, if I say every single word, and I gave you a vision of how

:51:48. > :51:51.ever thing would turn outcome you might say that relieves my fear, but

:51:52. > :51:55.after two days you would say I don't want to do this job any more. I need

:51:56. > :51:58.that buzz that comes from not knowing. When you can get excited

:51:59. > :52:01.about the unknown, you get confidence will stop that whole

:52:02. > :52:08.point of the fear of failure is I wanted, I wanted, I want everything

:52:09. > :52:12.that, the social side of it is that when you have confidence about the

:52:13. > :52:15.unknown, there is no you to battle with Kamui just flow because the

:52:16. > :52:19.world is unknown, you are unknown, the two things flow together. When

:52:20. > :52:23.you have a known and an unknown, you have a big old fight and that is the

:52:24. > :52:27.story of rugby and any sport. Most guys want to know how it turns out

:52:28. > :52:30.before they play, and that is the feeling everyone talks about being

:52:31. > :52:38.unable to work it out and deal with the fear. We have a question which I

:52:39. > :52:41.can give you, from Wayne, who is on Twitter. He says he would like to

:52:42. > :52:50.know if Jonny and Dave believes the theory that some stress is a good

:52:51. > :52:52.thing? If stress can be turned into excitement about the actual bars of

:52:53. > :53:00.achieving something you have never done before. Then, wow, you know, go

:53:01. > :53:05.for it. I liken it a little bit too if I was to teach you to do a

:53:06. > :53:11.standing long jump. Kicks, now a standing long jump! LAUGHTER

:53:12. > :53:15.Busy day. You would have to slightly change your shoes, and you clear,

:53:16. > :53:19.say, six feet on a carpet, and then I say right, there is a puddle six

:53:20. > :53:23.feet, there is not much of a challenge. But round the back there

:53:24. > :53:27.is a garage that is 12 feet off the ground and a gap that is six foot

:53:28. > :53:32.and I ask you to jump that, and you say, hang on a minute. And then I

:53:33. > :53:38.reinforce the process over and over again, and you jump it, the rush you

:53:39. > :53:42.will get from actually defeating what could have been a disastrous

:53:43. > :53:48.outcome is fantastic, and that's what you live for. I know what I

:53:49. > :53:52.doing after the show today then! Yes. What I like about what they've

:53:53. > :53:57.is saying as well is if there is energy there, you can use it to go

:53:58. > :54:00.somewhere. You can't do anything without energy and drive. If you

:54:01. > :54:04.don't like something, or you really like it or you really don't like it,

:54:05. > :54:08.either way you've got energy there. It's the bit in the middle that is

:54:09. > :54:11.impossible to do anything with. If you have the person that is not

:54:12. > :54:16.really bothered, that you can't shift, but in understanding

:54:17. > :54:22.something with my hate to say much, that energy, that energy is your

:54:23. > :54:29.route, to do what you want with. It doesn't have to be stress. Stress is

:54:30. > :54:33.friction. If it is just you and acceptance, there is a lot of flow

:54:34. > :54:37.there. It is very interesting, in your book you talk about the fact

:54:38. > :54:40.everyone is different and deals with situations differently. Some

:54:41. > :54:44.athletes, sports men and women you have worked with need, almost

:54:45. > :54:49.thrive, on that feeling of fear and stress. You talk about someone you

:54:50. > :54:57.work with would always throw up before playing. I know who that is!

:54:58. > :55:00.Yeah, but that's really just... The irony of it is if I went into the

:55:01. > :55:05.loo with him and said OK, don't worry, you don't have to play, I

:55:06. > :55:10.would probably get belted. You see, so what it is, it is an exciting and

:55:11. > :55:16.excitement. If you look at anxiety and the physiological impact of

:55:17. > :55:23.anxiety, it is not far off massive excitement, and it is just switching

:55:24. > :55:28.that. That is the key. I think that people when they say I'm nervous, my

:55:29. > :55:35.reaction straightaway is that is awesome. That means we are really

:55:36. > :55:39.going to go well today. At weekend, for whatever reason, think that

:55:40. > :55:43.nervousness and anxiety is a prerequisite to failure. We talk so

:55:44. > :55:48.much about anxiety now. Loo macro very much so. We have another

:55:49. > :55:51.comment coming in, Sally on twitter says loving this interview, so

:55:52. > :56:02.motivating and inspiring. There you go. People also want to know what is

:56:03. > :56:06.going on with you at the moment, and also your thoughts on commit has

:56:07. > :56:09.been a fantastic summer for women's sport, and the Lionesses are taking

:56:10. > :56:14.part in the semifinal in the Netherlands tonight. England women

:56:15. > :56:19.cricket team and Wimbledon. What are your thoughts on the RFU's decision

:56:20. > :56:25.not to give the England women 15 side players a new contract? We were

:56:26. > :56:29.talking about this, Dave and I about something else, not necessarily

:56:30. > :56:32.this, and saying that, and this is an interesting way of looking at it,

:56:33. > :56:36.when you asked me what we are up to at the moment, my drive is very much

:56:37. > :56:41.in deeper, deeper mental health journey that goes even beyond that.

:56:42. > :56:46.One of the things you can get caught out on, as soon as you think you

:56:47. > :56:49.know something, the error is compounded, and everything you say

:56:50. > :56:52.or do from that moment, the assumption of you think you know

:56:53. > :56:56.something. From that moment, everything you go down is an Louisa

:56:57. > :57:02.Reeve journey. It is better to start with I don't know, my first answer

:57:03. > :57:05.is I don't know what is going on with that agreement, I don't know

:57:06. > :57:10.what the people feel about it. If I am to make any assumption, whatever

:57:11. > :57:14.I say afterwards will be imaginary. I know this is getting away from the

:57:15. > :57:18.question, but when you start living in an imaginary world can you live

:57:19. > :57:22.your life irrelevantly. I know it is great to have opinions on things but

:57:23. > :57:25.actually freedom comes from saying you know what, I don't know, I don't

:57:26. > :57:29.know what I think about it. Mostly because I have no idea what is going

:57:30. > :57:33.on. I am not in that space. We would love everybody to have everyone the

:57:34. > :57:36.opportunity to do what they want, but there are people out there with

:57:37. > :57:41.budgets and decisions that I do know about. In that respect I would love

:57:42. > :57:48.to have that comment for you but I don't. OK. And we are out of time

:57:49. > :57:53.anyway. Jonny, David, thank you for coming in. Coming up, should foster

:57:54. > :57:57.carers get the same implement rights as other council employees? We will

:57:58. > :58:03.be debating the issue after 10am this morning. Now the latest weather

:58:04. > :58:08.with Carol. It has been very hot across parts of Europe of late.

:58:09. > :58:13.Yesterday's top temperatures, 44 in Sardinia, 43 in Rome for example.

:58:14. > :58:17.There is a red heat warning out across Sardinia, parts of Italy, the

:58:18. > :58:23.Brooklands and south Poland, also looking at high humidity. That kind

:58:24. > :58:26.of weather is life-threatening. Closer to home, sunshine and

:58:27. > :58:29.showers, some heavy, possibly than three with hail across Northern

:58:30. > :58:33.Ireland, Scotland and northern Ireland. Further south, it will

:58:34. > :58:39.rattle through quite quickly on a brisk wind across England and Wales.

:58:40. > :58:43.Here you are not likely to be as heavy or as frequent. Through the

:58:44. > :58:46.course of this morning, we continue with that combination of sunshine

:58:47. > :58:49.and showers, the heaviest, some slow-moving ones across Scotland,

:58:50. > :58:51.and pretty slow moving across northern England and Northern

:58:52. > :58:56.Ireland. Whipping through on that win. In England and Wales, you will

:58:57. > :58:58.find you will have sunshine, you might see a shower and then the

:58:59. > :59:04.sunshine will come back quite quickly. The Northern Ireland and

:59:05. > :59:08.Scotland, looking at that mixture of sunshine and showers, this morning's

:59:09. > :59:11.rain continuing to drift further north and the northern England again

:59:12. > :59:14.we are looking at some heavy showers. We won't all see one but if

:59:15. > :59:18.you catch one it will be slow-moving. South through the

:59:19. > :59:24.Midlands, East Anglia, Essex and Kent, down to the Isle of Wight, in

:59:25. > :59:27.south-west England and Wales, the showers will be fewer and further

:59:28. > :59:30.between, not as heavy, some dry weather and some sunny spells.

:59:31. > :59:35.Through this evening and overnight, we hang the windy conditions. A lot

:59:36. > :59:39.of dry weather but showers whipping in from the Western wind, and the

:59:40. > :59:43.rain across northern England comes south across much of the rest of

:59:44. > :59:47.Scotland. It is not going to be a cold night, temperatures 13 to 15

:59:48. > :59:51.Celsius. Tomorrow we start off with that rain in Scotland, but through

:59:52. > :59:56.the day it will turn more showery in nature, still quite brisk winds in

:59:57. > :00:00.the North, showers coming into Northern Ireland, northern England

:00:01. > :00:04.as well. Fewer showers for England and Wales, a lot of sunshine, a lot

:00:05. > :00:09.of tri- weather, and if you get into the sunshine, out of the win, a high

:00:10. > :00:12.of 24 will feel quite pleasant. As we had from Friday into Saturday, a

:00:13. > :00:16.little ridge of high-pressure moves in but still quite windy across the

:00:17. > :00:22.north, so the showers coming in with that win. A quick look at Saturday's

:00:23. > :00:25.forecast, the showers coming in, there will be showers across England

:00:26. > :00:29.and Wales, this looks perhaps a bit worse than it will be, but in

:00:30. > :00:32.between there will be some sunshine, high is up to 21 and the Sunday a

:00:33. > :00:37.lot of dry weather. Hello, it's Thursday,

:00:38. > :00:47.it's ten o'clock, I'm Tina Daheley One of the UK's major courier

:00:48. > :00:51.companies tells us what they are doing to protect their staff from

:00:52. > :00:53.acid attacks, as figures show the problem is on the rise...

:00:54. > :00:58.I was just knocking on the window of a few cars, I was just

:00:59. > :01:01.They're not opening because probably they were scared.

:01:02. > :01:03.I was really scared, I don't know what to do.

:01:04. > :01:09.We will show you the full report in a few minutes.

:01:10. > :01:11.Rugby legend Jonny Wilkinson tells this programme

:01:12. > :01:15.how his coach changed his life, both on and off the pitch.

:01:16. > :01:25.What Dave did for me, at that point, he opened my eyes to space, space

:01:26. > :01:31.for improvement and space to move and to grow. That space, I'm sure

:01:32. > :01:36.Dave will go on about it as well, is not out there, it is in you already.

:01:37. > :01:38.It just needs revealing. What you have uncovered is not your limits.

:01:39. > :01:42.You can see that full interview on our website.

:01:43. > :01:48.England's women are just one win away from the final of Euro 2017.

:01:49. > :01:53.They face the Netherlands in the semifinal tonight.

:01:54. > :01:58.But does the female sport get the coverage it deserves?

:01:59. > :02:06.Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

:02:07. > :02:12.Some mental health patients are waiting three years to be

:02:13. > :02:13.discharged from hospital, despite being medically

:02:14. > :02:17.Figures, obtained by the BBC through freedom of information

:02:18. > :02:19.requests, show that at least five patients waited more

:02:20. > :02:24.Meanwhile, hundreds more have been waiting for more than six months.

:02:25. > :02:27.Children from the very poorest families in some parts of England

:02:28. > :02:31.are continuing to fall further behind at school.

:02:32. > :02:34.The Education Policy Institute says by the end of secondary school,

:02:35. > :02:38.the most disadvantaged children can be two years behind their peers.

:02:39. > :02:40.The government says it's directing an extra 72-million-pounds

:02:41. > :02:49.The Venezuelan President, Nicolas Maduro, has dismissed

:02:50. > :02:50.allegations of fraud in the country's controversial

:02:51. > :02:55.A company based in London responsible for providing

:02:56. > :02:58.the voting system - has claimed electoral authorities

:02:59. > :03:00.inflated the turn-out figure by at least 1 million.

:03:01. > :03:06.The opposition has called for more mass demonstrations.

:03:07. > :03:10.A cot death charity has said that it will no longer endorse the use

:03:11. > :03:12.of Finnish-style baby boxes, designed for newborns to sleep in.

:03:13. > :03:15.The cardboard box - filled with baby products and a mattress -

:03:16. > :03:17.has been connected with low infant mortality rates in

:03:18. > :03:23.They're now given out to some new parents through the NHS,

:03:24. > :03:25.but the Lullaby Trust warns there is no evidence

:03:26. > :03:34.that they reduce the likelihood of sudden infant death syndrome.

:03:35. > :03:37.Residents of a North London tower block have told the BBC that urgent

:03:38. > :03:40.safety work carried out in the wake of the Grenfell Tower disaster

:03:41. > :03:45.People living on the Chalcots Estate in Camden were among about 3000

:03:46. > :03:48.people who were told to leave their homes,

:03:49. > :03:52.with only a few hours notice, six weeks ago.

:03:53. > :03:55.The work was carried out by Camden Council,

:03:56. > :03:58.which has told the BBC it's now been signed off by Building Control

:03:59. > :04:05.The food delivery company Deliveroo has told this programme it's

:04:06. > :04:10.bringing in new safety measures to protect drivers from attacks.

:04:11. > :04:14.It follows a wave of moped crime in London and horrific acid attacks

:04:15. > :04:16.where delivery drivers have been victims.

:04:17. > :04:18.Around 450 acid attacks were recorded by police

:04:19. > :04:24.The company says it's to introduce measures including the ability

:04:25. > :04:27.for drivers to report unsafe areas and trialling the use

:04:28. > :04:38.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:04:39. > :04:43.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:04:44. > :04:46.use the hashtag Victoria live and if you text, you will be charged

:04:47. > :04:53.The big rematch between Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko

:04:54. > :04:55.will not go ahead after the former heavyweight world champion

:04:56. > :05:03.We had been waiting for confirmation of another fight between the two

:05:04. > :05:05.in Las Vegas in November but the 41-year-old has

:05:06. > :05:07.decided to hang up his gloves after 27 years.

:05:08. > :05:10.As an amateur he won gold at the Atlanta Olympics

:05:11. > :05:11.in 1996 before becoming the World Heavyweight Champion

:05:12. > :05:21.He's thanked his team, family and fans for their support.

:05:22. > :05:24.Brazilian striker Neymar is set to earn three quarters of a million

:05:25. > :05:27.pounds a week when he completes a world record move from Barcelona

:05:28. > :05:33.to Paris St-Germain for just under 200 million pounds.

:05:34. > :05:36.It would make him the world's most expensive player with extras

:05:37. > :05:38.from sponsorships as well but there's one person

:05:39. > :05:44.who doesn't think the price tag is too expensive.

:05:45. > :05:56.For 200 million, I do not think he is expensive. I think the fact that

:05:57. > :06:01.you will have more players at 100 million, and you will have more

:06:02. > :06:05.players of 80 million, and more players of 60 million... And, I

:06:06. > :06:07.think that is the problem. Because, Neymar is one of the best players in

:06:08. > :06:07.the world. It's a story that's being talked

:06:08. > :06:10.about all over the world So in France the big headline

:06:11. > :06:15.there is HE ARRIVES. in Barcelona it's Hasta Nunca -

:06:16. > :06:19.which basically means SEE Deportivo is looking at how Barca

:06:20. > :06:31.could spend their little nest egg with Liverpool forward

:06:32. > :06:33.Phillipe Coutinho high on their list - although the Reds boss

:06:34. > :06:35.Jurgen Klopp says Coutinho isn't leaving Anfield this summer -

:06:36. > :06:38.even if the Catalan side came in with an offer in the region

:06:39. > :06:42.of 100 million pounds. It's the women's Euro 2017

:06:43. > :06:45.semi-finals tonight England are taking on hosts,

:06:46. > :06:49.the Netherlands. Karen Bardsley - she's out

:06:50. > :06:55.because of injury replaced by Siobhan Chamberlain and they're

:06:56. > :07:00.also without midfielder Jill Scott. But England are still

:07:01. > :07:01.the highest-ranked team And their record is pretty good -

:07:02. > :07:06.they've won all four games so far, They'll be looking to go one

:07:07. > :07:10.better than two years ago where they were knocked out

:07:11. > :07:20.in the semi-finals of the World Cup. I've been around some good sports

:07:21. > :07:24.people, but these players now, they work as hard as anyone I have ever

:07:25. > :07:28.worked with or seen. They are absolutely obsessed with being the

:07:29. > :07:29.best they can be. Now they have those two skills in abundance, the

:07:30. > :07:31.sky is the limit for this group. That's all for now Tina -

:07:32. > :07:40.more from us at 10:30. Lear, thank you. Let me read some

:07:41. > :07:45.comments coming in to do with our interview with Jonny Wilkinson. And

:07:46. > :07:50.his elite performance coach. Dave on Twitter says that Wilkinson is such

:07:51. > :07:55.a role model and a top speech by the coach too. Someone else says it is

:07:56. > :07:59.fascinating with Johnny and his coach, not failure but unexpected

:08:00. > :08:02.consequence. You need passion and excitement. Matt Cassidy says Jonny

:08:03. > :08:09.Wilkinson and his coach Dave talking so much sense about mental health

:08:10. > :08:16.and how to handle anxiety. Great advice. And "Focus on the things you

:08:17. > :08:21.can do and do it better, rather than the things you can't". And Jackson

:08:22. > :08:27.Moody says, great interview with Jonny Wilkinson on the importance of

:08:28. > :08:30.training within a zone of pressure, and mistakes, progress of process.

:08:31. > :08:32.Thank you very much, keep those coming in.

:08:33. > :08:34.The food delivery company Deliveroo has told this programme it's

:08:35. > :08:37.bringing in new safety measures to protect drivers from attacks.

:08:38. > :08:40.It follows a wave of moped crime that's hit London and horrific acid

:08:41. > :08:41.attacks where delivery drivers have been victims.

:08:42. > :08:43.Around 450 acid attacks were recorded by police

:08:44. > :08:51.It comes as the Royal College of Emergency Medicine warns

:08:52. > :08:54.corrosive liquids are fast replacing knives as the weapon of choice

:08:55. > :08:57.for criminals and there needs to be more awareness about how

:08:58. > :09:08.Catrin Nye has this exclusive report.

:09:09. > :09:17.London is currently in the midst of a moped crimewave.

:09:18. > :09:20.Three weeks ago, Deliveroo driver Jabed Hussain was the first victim

:09:21. > :09:25.in a series of five acid attacks in 90 minutes in north-east London.

:09:26. > :09:32.I was just knocking on the windows of a few cars,

:09:33. > :09:35.They're not opening because probably they were scared.

:09:36. > :09:43.Just running on the street like a crazy.

:09:44. > :09:48.In the last year, the Met Police recorded more than 16,000 incidents

:09:49. > :09:53.involving motorised two wheeled vehicles, compared with

:09:54. > :10:00.Deliveroo says since the acid attacks more than 70 drivers have

:10:01. > :10:05.said they don't want to finish an order because of safety fears.

:10:06. > :10:07.And seven drivers have said they don't want

:10:08. > :10:13.So the company is adding new features.

:10:14. > :10:15.After I mark delivered, I get the opportunity to give

:10:16. > :10:17.feedback to the network as to whether the delivery

:10:18. > :10:22.So if I've had an incident where I've been concerned for my safety,

:10:23. > :10:28.And I would choose the option here, safety concerns.

:10:29. > :10:31.This is new. The safety concerns is new.

:10:32. > :10:33.And is that a direct response to the acid attacks

:10:34. > :10:41.So we have had delivery feedback for a few weeks now,

:10:42. > :10:45.so prior to the terrible attacks, but adding safety concerns

:10:46. > :10:49.as an explicit option is a response to those incidents.

:10:50. > :10:52.As well as that feature in the app, the company are employing

:10:53. > :10:54.new specialist safety staff, and will trial helmet

:10:55. > :10:57.mounted cameras for drivers in the London Borough of Hackney,

:10:58. > :10:59.so they can hand footage directly to the police.

:11:00. > :11:06.Hackney now has a reputation as a trouble spot.

:11:07. > :11:08.Riders across the country need to have the right channels

:11:09. > :11:12.so they can communicate any kind of issues through.

:11:13. > :11:15.And currently, we have those in the form of the app,

:11:16. > :11:18.so they can communicate on an order if they have any kind of issue.

:11:19. > :11:21.And that is really important for us, but also I think it's

:11:22. > :11:25.These cameras are just being trialled in Hackney, why just there?

:11:26. > :11:28.Any new technology, you need to test.

:11:29. > :11:31.You need to make sure it does the things it's meant to do.

:11:32. > :11:37.If it does, then absolutely, will take this across the country.

:11:38. > :11:39.Deliveroo drivers are all self-employed, so not entitled

:11:40. > :11:45.They also all use their own bikes and mopeds to deliver.

:11:46. > :11:48.Do you feel guilty at all that they are putting themselves at risk,

:11:49. > :11:55.but they don't get sick pay, they don't get repairs

:11:56. > :11:59.As I said before, the safety of our riders is the most

:12:00. > :12:01.important thing to us, and it is our responsibility

:12:02. > :12:05.as a company to step up our efforts, so they can feel safe on the road

:12:06. > :12:08.For Jabed, the fear of being attacked again means

:12:09. > :12:10.he now won't work after 10 o'clock at night.

:12:11. > :12:16.And he says other drivers are doing the same.

:12:17. > :12:23.Jabed - who you heard from in that film - is here now.

:12:24. > :12:26.And as we were hearing, Jabed had acid thrown on him in the spate

:12:27. > :12:28.of attacks three weeks ago, as he was riding home

:12:29. > :12:32.And in a moment we'll speak to Dr Jessica Payne

:12:33. > :12:35.from the Royal College of Emergency Medicine -

:12:36. > :12:38.it's warning today that the public should be taught how to give first

:12:39. > :12:48.Thank you so much for coming in, Jabed. It is an ongoing

:12:49. > :12:52.investigation, we cannot talk about the details of what happened but how

:12:53. > :12:58.have you been coping since it happened? Well, since the incident

:12:59. > :13:07.happened, I am really scared to go out by myself, and with my family as

:13:08. > :13:14.well. I feel unsafe, I always lock my car doors and windows. If I see

:13:15. > :13:19.something going past, I get scared. I feel like something maybe will

:13:20. > :13:24.happen again. Can you imagine going back to work at any point in the

:13:25. > :13:29.near future? Yes, I love my job, I love what I'm doing because it is

:13:30. > :13:34.flexible. As I said, I love my job and I want to go back. But, there

:13:35. > :13:43.are safety concerns. It is not safe, for me. I do not think I'm going to

:13:44. > :13:47.be back until it is safe. Until this happened, did you ever have fears

:13:48. > :13:53.for your safety? I understand you've done this job for five years? Four

:13:54. > :13:57.or five years. Until this happened, did you have concerns before? No, I

:13:58. > :14:01.was free to work anywhere I used to go. From one o'clock, 12 o'clock, it

:14:02. > :14:05.did not matter. I would go everywhere. I did not have problems

:14:06. > :14:16.before. I never struggled like that before. Recently, even with the bike

:14:17. > :14:23.crimes, it goes over the limit now. So, we want to speak to the mayor

:14:24. > :14:31.and spoke to local mayors, like John Wicks of Tower Hamlets. He told us

:14:32. > :14:40.to speak to the police. It is going over the limit now. We did not get

:14:41. > :14:43.any results. What do you think should be done? Well, we need to

:14:44. > :14:46.start at the bottom. If you think, we are going to arrest them, and

:14:47. > :14:55.then you've released them, what is the point? If they are released

:14:56. > :15:01.without charge. We need to get a proper law for that. They should be

:15:02. > :15:06.in prison. So, tougher penalties? Doctor Payne, what is your response

:15:07. > :15:09.to the recent rise in so-called acid attacks? I suppose there is a

:15:10. > :15:13.professional and personal response. I live and work in north-east

:15:14. > :15:17.London, so I share the concerns of the community that I work for. I

:15:18. > :15:21.lock my doors on the way home and roll up my windows now. From a

:15:22. > :15:28.professional point of view, I think it is important that we try and

:15:29. > :15:32.disseminate the knowledge of how to manage these attacks, if you see

:15:33. > :15:35.them on the streets. And, we wrote an article published in the British

:15:36. > :15:38.medical Journal, to increase awareness among the medical

:15:39. > :15:42.community of the increase and frequency of which we see these

:15:43. > :15:48.attacks at the moment. And we are hearing about, it was commented on

:15:49. > :15:53.today, is the fact that we hear about these incidents more, is that

:15:54. > :15:57.part of the problem in terms of triggering copycat incidents? I do

:15:58. > :15:59.not think so. I think that actually having more awareness of these

:16:00. > :16:05.attacks is a good thing. It means that the public have a heightened

:16:06. > :16:10.awareness of what to do if they were to witness something like this. And

:16:11. > :16:15.I think these attacks have been happening for the last six months,

:16:16. > :16:16.and increasingly so. So it is probably just now that we are seeing

:16:17. > :16:33.this coming through in the press. What should people do? Firstly call

:16:34. > :16:41.909, make sure it is safer you to approach. Be aware that you need to

:16:42. > :16:44.protect yourself -- call 999. Avoid getting the corrosive substance on

:16:45. > :16:49.your hands or yourself, encourage the person who is going to be in

:16:50. > :16:53.pain and distressed to take off any items of clothing that might be

:16:54. > :16:57.contaminated or jury that might be contaminated, and tried to irrigate,

:16:58. > :17:02.wash, the areas affected with as much water as possible. That could

:17:03. > :17:06.be a shower, it could be bottled water, for as long as possible until

:17:07. > :17:08.it takes the emergency services to arrive. Thank you so much for coming

:17:09. > :17:11.in to us. UberEats told us: "Couriers can log

:17:12. > :17:14.in when and where they want, they are under no obligation

:17:15. > :17:17.at all to deliver in an area "The safety of the couriers that

:17:18. > :17:21.have signed up to UberEATS is our top priority and we don't

:17:22. > :17:24.want anyone to feel unsafe That's one of the reasons

:17:25. > :17:27.we don't set shifts or zones for them to operate in" On blocking:

:17:28. > :17:31."If you don't accept three requesst the system thinks you're taking

:17:32. > :17:34.a break, so can log you off - but couriers just

:17:35. > :17:36.need to log in again. There is no blocking

:17:37. > :17:53.or anything like that." Still to come, do baby boxes

:17:54. > :17:59.contribute to cot death? Should foster carers get

:18:00. > :18:01.the same employment rights A couple in Glasgow who have been

:18:02. > :18:05.working as foster carers for six years have won the right to be

:18:06. > :18:08.classed as employees Their skills are very specialised -

:18:09. > :18:12.and the judgment would not apply However, it does raise the question

:18:13. > :18:22.about the nature of the work that foster carers do and the rights

:18:23. > :18:29.they should be entitled to. We can speak now to Jimmy Johnstone

:18:30. > :18:32.- the foster carer in Glasgow Also here is Jenny Poultney

:18:33. > :18:36.who was in foster care And Andy Elvin - the chief

:18:37. > :18:53.executive of the Adolescent Why did you decide to take the

:18:54. > :18:57.action in the first place? We did not decide to take action, it was

:18:58. > :19:01.Jimmy. He felt in his particular situation that he was an employee,

:19:02. > :19:06.and having looked at the case I would agree with him, in his

:19:07. > :19:09.particular situation, he was an employee. The council had advertised

:19:10. > :19:13.the foster care is to join into the sea man had advertised a salary, and

:19:14. > :19:15.as soon as you say that, you are in tune in their is an

:19:16. > :19:19.employer-employee relationship but what he was doing was a very

:19:20. > :19:22.specialised programme for particularly young people and a very

:19:23. > :19:26.successful programme hopefully but that is not what foster care

:19:27. > :19:30.generally is. Foster care generally is not being involved in that kind

:19:31. > :19:33.of specialist activity, it is looking after vulnerable children.

:19:34. > :19:36.And there is an issue with employment rights, because the

:19:37. > :19:40.self-employment status is important to a lot of foster carers, they are

:19:41. > :19:45.independent of the agency they work for. They can say no to a placement

:19:46. > :19:50.if they think it is not right for them or their child. As an employee

:19:51. > :19:52.you have much less right to say no to a reasonable request from your

:19:53. > :19:55.manager and the resources something magical about foster care that is

:19:56. > :19:59.lost if young people think that the person looking after them is looking

:20:00. > :20:03.after them because it is their job. If they then have paid holiday, what

:20:04. > :20:09.are they having holiday from, me, the child. It is not something you

:20:10. > :20:15.want to have the say to young people. We do not value people who

:20:16. > :20:19.care enough, and allowances for foster carers, and this is the

:20:20. > :20:23.allowance to cover the costs of raising a child in your house, often

:20:24. > :20:27.they are not high enough. The feed to pay for the expertise of the

:20:28. > :20:29.foster carer is often not at the right level, particularly as minimum

:20:30. > :20:36.wage goes up this will be increasingly an issue. But those

:20:37. > :20:38.things can all be sold without going into an employer-employee

:20:39. > :20:44.relationship, which I think would destroy something magical and unique

:20:45. > :20:48.about foster care. Let's here from Jimmy, why did you bring about this

:20:49. > :20:53.case in the first place, why did you want to be an employee? Hello,

:20:54. > :21:07.thanks Andy for saying some of the nice things you said. About foster

:21:08. > :21:27.care. It was because a virginity of care as a workforce.

:21:28. > :21:33.We complained, ask for support and ultimately we were victimised and

:21:34. > :21:42.harassed. We had no other direction to go. We took legal action, that is

:21:43. > :21:45.why this came about. For people who don't know, how is your job as a

:21:46. > :21:52.foster carer, both of your jobs, how is that different to most other

:21:53. > :21:57.foster carers? We have been in a treatment foster care work. As Andy

:21:58. > :22:03.says, we do get a salary, that is what is different. Fundamentally

:22:04. > :22:11.there is no difference. In the judgment that our tribunal has

:22:12. > :22:17.stated, the judge has stated the level of control over us as foster

:22:18. > :22:22.carers, and that is a fundamental, that is part of being a foster

:22:23. > :22:27.carer. So although we have a salary, we have holidays, that is slightly

:22:28. > :22:31.different but fundamentally we are just foster carers, same as any

:22:32. > :22:35.other foster carer. I want to bring Jenny into the conversation, good

:22:36. > :22:42.morning. Morning. Can you tell us about your experience of growing up

:22:43. > :22:50.with foster parents? I've had good experiences and bad experiences,

:22:51. > :22:54.mostly good. I think I was fortunate enough to find the right path, that

:22:55. > :23:00.unfortunately some of my own siblings haven't had the same

:23:01. > :23:07.opportunities that I have had. That the same time, when you are a job in

:23:08. > :23:11.that situation, being seen in that position as a job is not

:23:12. > :23:17.appropriate. Why not? Because you feel like a job. You go into care

:23:18. > :23:22.and you want to fit income you want to be part of a family. To be seen

:23:23. > :23:28.as a job causes emotional difficulties. Do you think that

:23:29. > :23:32.people who go into foster care, some people are motivated then by money,

:23:33. > :23:40.and that's bad, and has that been your experience? Not so much my

:23:41. > :23:48.experience but I have seen that within my own family. I believe you

:23:49. > :23:52.take on a child, you want to have them brought up the way he would

:23:53. > :23:55.bring your own kids up, but when you are so obviously treated

:23:56. > :24:04.differently, it has an impact. It has an impact on the child, as to

:24:05. > :24:09.how they are brought up, what part they take. Jimmy, do you understand

:24:10. > :24:15.the point there could be for other people a danger of it becoming a job

:24:16. > :24:25.if you become an employee, or if foster carers become employees? It

:24:26. > :24:27.is more than a job. Howdy respond to Jenny's comments? I am sorry that

:24:28. > :24:36.you have found some of these things you are not happy with. Foster care

:24:37. > :24:40.work is the same type of work as residential care work. You have

:24:41. > :24:46.young people in residential homes, and they are in care. Foster care

:24:47. > :24:52.workers are doing a job just as anyone else in this country. The

:24:53. > :24:57.fundamental problem is they don't have any rights. This leads to a

:24:58. > :25:05.chronic shortage of foster care in the UK. You have to ask yourself

:25:06. > :25:09.why. It is part of these rights. It is a 24-7 job, isn't that the point

:25:10. > :25:12.com you don't just clock off at a certain time, which I'm sure you

:25:13. > :25:18.don't, but that is the difference? That is the difference but of the

:25:19. > :25:26.day it is a job. To help us do our job better, and if we had rights to

:25:27. > :25:31.represent ourselves, and the money issue, that is a side issue, this is

:25:32. > :25:36.a bit duty of care towards a set of workers. You have people leaving

:25:37. > :25:40.foster care work because they have had enough, they are not supported,

:25:41. > :25:45.they have not got access to anything, they are not respected.

:25:46. > :25:55.Things are changing. 20, 30 years ago, providing a bed for a young

:25:56. > :25:58.person, these things have changed. We are a highly skilled workforce,

:25:59. > :26:07.we have to gain professional qualifications, that is

:26:08. > :26:11.across-the-board. Things have changed now, we need help to carry

:26:12. > :26:17.out this job. There is a chronic shortage of foster care workers and

:26:18. > :26:22.you have to ask why. Thank you for now. Andy, can you see why foster

:26:23. > :26:24.carers need support and they need to have rights, sometimes the same

:26:25. > :26:29.rights employees would have elsewhere? Absolutely, I just want

:26:30. > :26:32.to correct if you things, there isn't a chronic shortage of foster

:26:33. > :26:37.carers who stopped there is a shortage of foster carers for

:26:38. > :26:42.particular groups of children, for teenagers, 13 and 14 euros coming

:26:43. > :26:45.into care. We need the sibling groups, and for parent and child

:26:46. > :26:47.placements where the parent is placed with a young baby in a foster

:26:48. > :26:52.care placement but generally there is not a chronic shortage of foster

:26:53. > :26:58.carers. Foster carers are heroes of the state, they do an astonishing

:26:59. > :27:07.piece of work, an astonishing role for young people, they transform

:27:08. > :27:09.young people. They work on shifts. You are replicating general

:27:10. > :27:12.population families, you go on holiday with your foster children,

:27:13. > :27:16.you involve your foster children in the things you do as a family and

:27:17. > :27:19.that is the most important thing to foster children, they feel part of

:27:20. > :27:25.something, they feel valued, cared for and loved. Having an employment

:27:26. > :27:29.employer relationship is very dangerous, because we might kill

:27:30. > :27:33.what is magical about foster care, and foster carers are independent,

:27:34. > :27:37.they can refuse placements when they are not employed. They can push back

:27:38. > :27:40.against social workers and their fostering agency because they are

:27:41. > :27:45.independent of us. There are mechanisms to our own agencies for

:27:46. > :27:49.them to protest about actions towards them, if they work for the

:27:50. > :27:51.local authority, they can work to a local authority, they can go through

:27:52. > :27:57.the local authority complaints process the same as anyone else.

:27:58. > :28:00.These things can be done. Yes, this is absolutely right that support for

:28:01. > :28:05.foster carers is not good enough in some places, training and support

:28:06. > :28:09.needs to be better. Our allowances high enough, generally no. They need

:28:10. > :28:14.to be higher. I just want to read out one comment that has come on

:28:15. > :28:18.from Ashley on twitter. He says fostering should not be a job, it

:28:19. > :28:23.should be a way of life. You don't put your own child in the respite to

:28:24. > :28:28.go on holiday, so a similar one to the point you made. A spokesman for

:28:29. > :28:33.Glasgow City Council, we can give you now.

:28:34. > :28:37.Of This Decision And It Would Be Inappropriate To Comment On This

:28:38. > :28:40."However, We Do Note That The Employment Judge Has

:28:41. > :28:42.Explicitly Made Clear That His Findings In This Case

:28:43. > :28:47.Do Not Extend To The Status Of Mainstream Foster Carers."

:28:48. > :28:49.If you're flying to Europe in the next few weeks then you're

:28:50. > :28:51.undoubtedly worried about reports of people queuing for

:28:52. > :28:54.hours passport control - and in some cases missing flights.

:28:55. > :28:57.Tighter security checks were brought in for those entering and leaving 26

:28:58. > :28:59.European countries because of recent terror attacks, with many holiday

:29:00. > :29:01.destination airports unprepared and under-staffed to cope

:29:02. > :29:03.with the greater scrutiny of passports and visas.

:29:04. > :29:04.And with more people travelling throughout August,

:29:05. > :29:17.Thomas Reynaert is Managing Director of 'Airlines for Europe' -

:29:18. > :29:19.a lobby group setup by Easyjet, Ryanair, British Airways

:29:20. > :29:39.A very good morning to you. Good morning, Tina. How bad is the

:29:40. > :29:42.situation? First of all, safety and security very important to us and

:29:43. > :29:46.our passengers, we do understand Mike governments are putting into

:29:47. > :29:51.place these measures again, just having them implemented properly.

:29:52. > :29:54.That is one thing. According to our latest report unfortunately it

:29:55. > :29:57.doesn't look like the situation is traumatically improving. We know

:29:58. > :30:01.that some of the national governments basically said they

:30:02. > :30:04.would put more staffing resources and other resources into improving

:30:05. > :30:09.the situation, but we haven't seen any dramatic changes unfortunately.

:30:10. > :30:12.This is the busiest week of the holiday season, can you talk to us

:30:13. > :30:18.about the impact it has had on flights and people who are trying to

:30:19. > :30:23.travel? First of all people having to queue much longer than expected,

:30:24. > :30:26.sometimes more than double. We have seen extreme cases in summer the

:30:27. > :30:32.airports of up to four hours queueing just to get through border

:30:33. > :30:37.control. Just because staffing wasn't there. That is one thing.

:30:38. > :30:42.People queueing a long time. I have seen hundreds of flights from

:30:43. > :30:47.airline members being delayed, with an average delay of 30 minutes. But

:30:48. > :30:51.you can see what kind of operation or disruption this is causing.

:30:52. > :30:58.Passengers are really annoyed because of this. How much influence

:30:59. > :31:02.can we have, can the government have, on the other countries that

:31:03. > :31:06.are worst affected? I know the aviation Minister has called up to

:31:07. > :31:08.say this is not good enough, can you speed this up, but actually how much

:31:09. > :31:17.influence the rehab? These discussions are ongoing among

:31:18. > :31:22.governments, the sad thing is, the governments involved knew this was

:31:23. > :31:26.going to happen for more than many months ago. Since the regulation has

:31:27. > :31:30.been officially put in place in April, member states have six months

:31:31. > :31:35.to implement it. Not even all of the member states have implemented the

:31:36. > :31:39.regulation which is worrying. Come October, when all member states are

:31:40. > :31:43.meant to implement this, we may see more trouble. So, the only thing

:31:44. > :31:48.member states can do is to make sure that, as they have committed to

:31:49. > :31:52.earlier this year, is to have the proper resources. I'm thinking

:31:53. > :31:55.mainly staffing resources but also technology and commitment resources

:31:56. > :32:00.for people for the immigration service to do their job properly.

:32:01. > :32:06.More resources are urgently needed, especially in holiday destinations,

:32:07. > :32:11.and we have a peek, as you say, this week. It will not be easier for

:32:12. > :32:17.people to travel due to these problems. It isn't going to get any

:32:18. > :32:21.better any time soon, then? What advice would you have for

:32:22. > :32:24.passengers? As you may have heard from travel agents so far, check

:32:25. > :32:28.with your airline if you want to be sure, but we have seen some airlines

:32:29. > :32:31.recommending people come three hours in advance to the airport, just to

:32:32. > :32:34.give you an idea. Thank you. With the news, here's Ben

:32:35. > :32:37.in the BBC Newsroom. Some mental health patients

:32:38. > :32:42.are waiting three years to be discharged from hospital,

:32:43. > :32:43.despite being medically Figures, obtained by the BBC

:32:44. > :32:46.through freedom of information requests, show that at least five

:32:47. > :32:48.patients waited more Meanwhile, hundreds more have been

:32:49. > :32:54.waiting for more than six months. Children from the very poorest

:32:55. > :32:57.families in some parts of England are continuing to fall further

:32:58. > :33:01.behind at school. The Education Policy Institute says

:33:02. > :33:04.by the end of secondary school, the most disadvantaged children can

:33:05. > :33:07.be two years behind their peers. The government says it's directing

:33:08. > :33:09.an extra 72-million-pounds The Venezuelan President,

:33:10. > :33:19.Nicolas Maduro, has dismissed allegations of fraud

:33:20. > :33:21.in the country's controversial A company based in London

:33:22. > :33:25.responsible for providing the voting system -

:33:26. > :33:29.has claimed electoral authorities inflated the turn-out figure

:33:30. > :33:32.by at least 1 million. The opposition has called for more

:33:33. > :33:39.mass demonstrations. Residents of a North London tower

:33:40. > :33:42.block have told the BBC that urgent safety work carried out in the wake

:33:43. > :33:45.of the Grenfell Tower disaster People living on the Chalcots Estate

:33:46. > :33:49.in Camden were among about 3000 people who were told

:33:50. > :33:51.to leave their homes, with only a few hours

:33:52. > :33:54.notice, six weeks ago. The work was carried

:33:55. > :33:57.out by Camden Council, which has told the BBC it's now been

:33:58. > :34:16.signed off by Building Control That's a summary of the news this

:34:17. > :34:19.morning, join me at 11 o'clock on the BBC News Channel.

:34:20. > :34:24.Some comments on foster carers, Claire says that foster carers do

:34:25. > :34:28.not clock on and clock off, it is a full-time job, 24/7, difficult but

:34:29. > :34:31.very rewarding. Another says they have been in foster care and each

:34:32. > :34:36.individual circumstances different so sometimes it could be considered

:34:37. > :34:37.a job, sometimes not. Thank you very much indeed. Time for a look at the

:34:38. > :34:41.sport with Leah. Former world heavyweight champion

:34:42. > :34:43.Wladimir Klitschko has It had been expected the 41-year-old

:34:44. > :34:46.would announce a re-match with Anthony Joshua -

:34:47. > :34:49.who beat him at Wembley in April He'll become the world's most

:34:50. > :34:57.expensive footballer when Neymar's expected

:34:58. > :34:59.to complete his transfer from Barcelona to Paris Saint Germain

:35:00. > :35:03.for just under 200 million pounds. He's likely to earn three quarters

:35:04. > :35:06.of a million pounds a week. We're less than 11 hours away now

:35:07. > :35:09.from England's Euro 2017 semi final Manager Mark Sampson

:35:10. > :35:12.says their mission isn't just to become the best team in Europe -

:35:13. > :35:17.but the best team in the world. James Forrest scored the only goal

:35:18. > :35:20.of the game to take Celtic into the play-off rounds

:35:21. > :35:22.of the Champions League. They won 1-0 against

:35:23. > :35:24.Rosenborg last night. The draw for the playoff

:35:25. > :35:30.round will take place tomorrow. That's all from us for now, back to

:35:31. > :35:38.you, Tina. Thank you, Leah. A cot death charity has raised

:35:39. > :35:41.concerns over the use of Finnish-style baby boxes,

:35:42. > :35:43.which babies can sleep in. Issuing new advice to parents,

:35:44. > :35:46.the Lullaby Trust said there was no evidence baby boxes reduced the rate

:35:47. > :35:48.of sudden infant death syndrome. The cardboard box, filled with baby

:35:49. > :35:51.products and a mattress, can itself be used as a bed,

:35:52. > :35:54.and has been given to new parents executive of the Lullaby Trust,

:35:55. > :36:09.by Francine Bates, the Chief who is a parent who used

:36:10. > :36:18.a baby box for her son. Welcome, why have you changed your

:36:19. > :36:23.advice? We haven't changed it, but we have issued new advice. Not

:36:24. > :36:26.necessarily with baby boxes, they have become very popular, there are

:36:27. > :36:32.a lot of companies selling them online and selling them in shops, as

:36:33. > :36:37.you have said. There are also NHS professionals giving them out to

:36:38. > :36:45.parents. Free of charge. Because they have become so popular, we

:36:46. > :36:48.felt, as the leading SIDS charity in the country, we should investigate,

:36:49. > :36:53.and see if the claims that they would reduce sudden infant death

:36:54. > :36:58.syndrome were correct or not. We do have concerns that some of the hype,

:36:59. > :37:02.if you like, surrounding baby boxes has become exaggerated so we wanted

:37:03. > :37:07.to put the record straight. Specifically, what are those

:37:08. > :37:10.concerns? That the company is promoting baby boxes say that this

:37:11. > :37:15.is a box used in Finland and in Finland, they have seen a

:37:16. > :37:19.significant drop in SIDS and infant mortality. It is true that Finland

:37:20. > :37:22.has a drop-in infant mortality, it has one of the best rates in the

:37:23. > :37:26.world but the Finnish government themselves have just tweeted

:37:27. > :37:30.recently and have stated that there are a multiplicity of factors as to

:37:31. > :37:34.why infant mortality is lower in Finland, and it isn't just to do

:37:35. > :37:39.with the box. The second issue is, there are no safety standards

:37:40. > :37:44.anywhere in the world that cover a cardboard box to place your baby to

:37:45. > :37:49.sleep in. We feel very strongly that if we are going to promote baby

:37:50. > :37:53.boxes, if they are to become popular, we should work with

:37:54. > :37:57.manufacturers and retailers to bring in a standard which specifically

:37:58. > :38:02.covers the cardboard box as a safety standard. Isn't it better than

:38:03. > :38:06.nothing, if you aren't using anything? We would certainly agree

:38:07. > :38:10.that using a cardboard box would be better than nothing at all, like

:38:11. > :38:15.putting your baby on a bean bag or sleeping on the sofa with your baby,

:38:16. > :38:19.which has a very high risk in relation to SIDS. Our advice still

:38:20. > :38:25.is that the best place to put your baby to sleep is a cot or a Moses

:38:26. > :38:32.basket, certainly at night, beside your bed for the first six months,

:38:33. > :38:36.in the same room. And what are your experiences of using a baby box? And

:38:37. > :38:43.your response to Francine's comments? Well, we got our box from

:38:44. > :38:49.Finland, it was brought in by my parents from Finland. We didn't use

:38:50. > :38:53.any English scheme, I cannot comment on those. We were very happy, it's

:38:54. > :39:02.the traditional thing to do back home. That is why we wanted it. Our

:39:03. > :39:07.son slept in it for the first five months, at night-time, for naps. The

:39:08. > :39:13.box was placed next to our bed, on my side, and I was able to reach for

:39:14. > :39:20.him, and feed him whenever he needed. We were quite happy with it.

:39:21. > :39:27.What Francine was saying, and all of the comments I have read online, I

:39:28. > :39:35.tend to agree. The box itself, I do not think would make any difference.

:39:36. > :39:41.It has to be looked at in context. As it was done in Finland, that was

:39:42. > :39:48.basically the way of getting people into antenatal care, in their 30s,

:39:49. > :39:54.when we start. It is not just the box, it is a lot of other things.

:39:55. > :40:04.And going back to Finland, like you were saying, the lowest infant

:40:05. > :40:08.mortality rates in the world, according to the UN, this box scheme

:40:09. > :40:12.will be rolled out for all newborns across Scotland, and some areas in

:40:13. > :40:15.England give out the boxes, does it worry you? The Scottish Government

:40:16. > :40:22.decided to roll out their box programme. We do not cover Scotland,

:40:23. > :40:26.we are not involved in the programme. I understand the box that

:40:27. > :40:34.they will be using is of very high quality. But, what we are concerned

:40:35. > :40:38.about is that parents are not bamboozled by too much slick

:40:39. > :40:44.marketing. I completely agree that it is a range of different factors

:40:45. > :40:47.that have led to the amazing result in Finland in relation to infant

:40:48. > :40:53.mortality. We should not just focus on the box as to the reason why

:40:54. > :40:58.infant mortality is low in Finland. There are a lot of factors and in

:40:59. > :41:01.this country we need to provide comprehensive advice to all parents

:41:02. > :41:05.about safer sleep and ensure parents get the support they need in those

:41:06. > :41:13.first crucial weeks when their baby is born. Thank you to both of you.

:41:14. > :41:21.The baby box company who manufacture the box for some NHS trusts say that

:41:22. > :41:26.these box exceed UK standards for cribs and cradles and add their baby

:41:27. > :41:32.boxes have been used in Finland for 80 years, and since their

:41:33. > :41:36.introduction, Finland has seen a dramatic reduction in infant

:41:37. > :41:39.mortality rates, which we have just been discussing. Game Of Thrones

:41:40. > :41:43.actor Kit Harrington has called upon the government to fund six years

:41:44. > :41:48.backpay for overnight carers. If charities had to pay up instead, he

:41:49. > :41:49.fears people such as his cousin, Lauren, who has down syndrome and

:41:50. > :43:54.autism, could suffer as a result. Back to baby boxes, I am joined from

:43:55. > :43:58.our Aberdeen studio by the Scottish Government minister for childcare

:43:59. > :44:05.and early years, Mark McDonald. Thank you for joining us. In terms

:44:06. > :44:09.of what we have just been talking about, do have concerns about the

:44:10. > :44:13.introduction of baby boxes in Scotland this month? It is important

:44:14. > :44:17.parents in Scotland, who will receive these boxes as of the 15th

:44:18. > :44:22.of this month, recognise we've put a lot of work in in Scotland into

:44:23. > :44:27.ensuring we meet the highest possible standards in relation to

:44:28. > :44:29.these boxes and we have secured the British safety standard

:44:30. > :44:36.accreditation for domestic cribs, for the Scottish baby box. We have

:44:37. > :44:39.positive feedback for organisations like the Royal College of Midwives

:44:40. > :44:42.in Scotland about the ability of these boxes to promote safe

:44:43. > :44:46.sleeping. It is really important, as we roll out the baby box nationally

:44:47. > :44:50.in Scotland, is parents have that reassurance. I suppose parents in

:44:51. > :44:57.Scotland could be concerned, if they are hearing today, that Francine

:44:58. > :45:00.Bates, the chief executive from the Lullaby Trust, that these were being

:45:01. > :45:05.marketed as products to reduce sudden infant death syndrome. They

:45:06. > :45:13.have issued new advice, what would you say to them? I think that is a

:45:14. > :45:17.distinction between the commercially available baby boxes, which are

:45:18. > :45:21.obviously private enterprises, and what we are doing in Scotland. We

:45:22. > :45:25.have never promoted these Scottish baby boxes on the basis of reducing

:45:26. > :45:31.sudden infant death syndrome, but we have said that, by achieving this

:45:32. > :45:38.accreditation in relation to the domestic crib, we can ensure that

:45:39. > :45:43.parents get positive messages about safe sleeping at as we saw from our

:45:44. > :45:46.pilot projects in Orkney and Clackmannanshire, parents coming

:45:47. > :45:51.back with positive feedback about the quality of materials within the

:45:52. > :45:56.baby boxes, debut mattresses within that box -- the new mattresses and

:45:57. > :46:00.we have had interactions with the Scottish cot death trust which

:46:01. > :46:04.operates in Scotland, and would not be the first to raise concerns about

:46:05. > :46:06.-- and they would be the first to raise concerns about this if they

:46:07. > :46:10.thought it was not safe. Thank you. England's women are just one win

:46:11. > :46:14.away from the final of Euro 2017. The Lionesses are through to

:46:15. > :46:16.the semi-finals after their first They're now the highest-ranked team

:46:17. > :46:20.left in the competition and will face hosts,

:46:21. > :46:22.the Netherlands tonight. Manager Mark Sampson said

:46:23. > :46:25.he thinks its been a long time since there was a "genuine belief

:46:26. > :46:28.that an English team can go and win It's already been a successful year

:46:29. > :46:33.for women's sport in England, with the cricket team winning

:46:34. > :46:36.the World Cup and British number one Johanna Konta reaching

:46:37. > :46:40.the Wimbledon semi-finals. The last women's football game

:46:41. > :46:42.was watched by 3.3 million people, making it the biggest peak TV

:46:43. > :46:45.audience for women's football. But does the female sport get

:46:46. > :46:54.the coverage it deserves? With us are Sarah King,

:46:55. > :46:57.and daughter, Isabelle. They're huge fans of women's

:46:58. > :46:59.football, and Isabelle Rachel Brown Finnis,

:47:00. > :47:04.former England goalkeeper, is speaking to us from Holland,

:47:05. > :47:07.where she is doing commentary And in our Coventry studio

:47:08. > :47:26.is Annie Zaidi, South Asian football Welcome to all of you to the

:47:27. > :47:32.programme to talk about women's football. Izzy, how did you first

:47:33. > :47:36.get into football? I think it was through my primary school. They sent

:47:37. > :47:39.out letters about a club and I wanted to see what it was about and

:47:40. > :47:44.get involved and it kind of escalated from there. And have you

:47:45. > :47:48.been following England boss might progress? I followed every match I

:47:49. > :47:52.can and catching up on the other group results, the knockout rounds,

:47:53. > :47:57.online. So when you started playing at primary school, to where you are

:47:58. > :48:00.now, a lot older, what you think about how much coverage there has

:48:01. > :48:03.been available of women's coverage on TV, how much you get to read

:48:04. > :48:07.about women's football, you see in the papers, how much coverage they

:48:08. > :48:11.get compared to the men's game and other sports? When I started there

:48:12. > :48:14.was virtually nothing. I didn't fully hear about women's football

:48:15. > :48:20.until the 2015 World Cup and that is when I first wanted to go in, wanted

:48:21. > :48:23.to watch it. It has grown massively, the coverage. I still think they

:48:24. > :48:28.could be more, competitive men's game but that it has grown. It is

:48:29. > :48:33.good. What about attitudes towards women's football and the fact that

:48:34. > :48:36.you play? Since they won bronze at the World Cup that attitude has

:48:37. > :48:39.become a lot more positive, people can realise what it could lead to

:48:40. > :48:44.because now we are in the semifinals, one win away from the

:48:45. > :48:51.final. So I think people are enjoying it, and seeing it as more,

:48:52. > :48:59.more competitive now. Have you ever received any negativity about

:49:00. > :49:02.playing? No, I haven't. How encouraging has mum been? She didn't

:49:03. > :49:06.originally watch women's football until I got into it, so I think that

:49:07. > :49:10.has been quite a big part of getting her to watch it was me playing it.

:49:11. > :49:15.But she has been very supportive, yes. Mum, however potent is it for

:49:16. > :49:22.people like yourselves, parents, to encourage their daughters to play?

:49:23. > :49:25.It is fully important, I don't think we should differentiate between what

:49:26. > :49:28.girls and boys should do. If it is something your child is passionate

:49:29. > :49:34.about computer age them to do it whatever it is. As Isabel said, I

:49:35. > :49:37.didn't really watch women's football until she became interested in it,

:49:38. > :49:40.and we would go down and watch Arsenal women's team, and it is

:49:41. > :49:46.fantastic, the games are really exciting. It is a really exciting

:49:47. > :49:49.sport so we should be doing what we can to encourage people to watch it

:49:50. > :49:56.on the television, and to encourage girls to take it up as well. What

:49:57. > :50:00.about role models in women's football? I think there are some

:50:01. > :50:06.excellent role models. One of the Izzy's favourite players and one of

:50:07. > :50:10.mine too, Jordan Nobbs. When you see her play, her work ethic is

:50:11. > :50:14.fantastic, she fits in 100% every time, she never gives up and I think

:50:15. > :50:18.that is really good. For me to say the Isabel looked at how she takes

:50:19. > :50:23.on challenges, how she performs when she goes out, and that is something

:50:24. > :50:31.you can aspire to and work hard and you can get some really good results

:50:32. > :50:38.too. The big showpiece is tonight, let's go to Rachel Brown Finis, who

:50:39. > :50:44.is there. Good morning. How are you? Very excited ahead of the night's

:50:45. > :50:50.game. Very windy here, so more like English conditions. What is the

:50:51. > :50:56.atmosphere like out there? We are here in the centre where some fans

:50:57. > :51:00.will be, just three kilometres down the road is the stadium, FC 20, so

:51:01. > :51:04.we will be in the middle of the fan zone a little bit later on today is

:51:05. > :51:08.the atmosphere starts building. They have already constructed a lot of

:51:09. > :51:12.the fan zone. It is a big event, loads of things for the children to

:51:13. > :51:18.do, for people to learn more about women's football, Dutch football, so

:51:19. > :51:22.I think it is going to be absolutely brimming Dodt blooming later on. Can

:51:23. > :51:27.you talk to me about the journey at the beginning of the tournament to

:51:28. > :51:31.where we are now? England flew through the group stages, beating

:51:32. > :51:35.Scotland 6-0 in the opening game, really put a stamp on the

:51:36. > :51:38.tournament. Jody Taylor scored a hat-trick in that game, so she has

:51:39. > :51:44.been prolific from the start and has continued that. The second game they

:51:45. > :51:46.beat Spain 2-0, very clinical, not too many chances, gave up a lot of

:51:47. > :51:52.possession England but ultimately came out on top. In the third game

:51:53. > :52:00.mark Sampson made ten changes to his starting line-up. It gave every

:52:01. > :52:04.lioness in his squad a chance of starting a game. People did not

:52:05. > :52:08.expect to encounter France so early on, they were touted as favourites,

:52:09. > :52:12.but most of the Lionesses who were starting that game were fresh, they

:52:13. > :52:15.had pretty much the whole week. So what England have been is

:52:16. > :52:18.authoritative in their performances, they have been clinical and when

:52:19. > :52:24.they have needed to defend, they have been a white wall of defenders.

:52:25. > :52:28.They have been relentless. One of your guests there just said that the

:52:29. > :52:35.team never give up. Jordan Nobbs is one of those players, but it runs

:52:36. > :52:37.right across the team, from a when England are not in possession, every

:52:38. > :52:42.one of those players is giving everything to ensure that the

:52:43. > :52:47.goalkeeper has nothing to do. We have lost Karen Bardsley from the

:52:48. > :52:51.starting line-up. Talking of goalkeepers, really bad news for

:52:52. > :52:55.Karen Bardsley, have you spoken to her or seen her? I have dropped her

:52:56. > :53:01.a message, she is busy being consoled by her team-mates, we have

:53:02. > :53:06.spoken to her team-mates. As buoyant as ever. What resonates across the

:53:07. > :53:11.whole team is that feeling of togetherness, and that feeling of a

:53:12. > :53:15.collective goal. It is not about one player, if one player is out,

:53:16. > :53:18.another player will come in, the belief is in no way dented with the

:53:19. > :53:27.loss of Karen Bardsley. Siobhan Chamberlain will come in. They won't

:53:28. > :53:35.have Jill Scott, she is suspended but they will bring in someone like

:53:36. > :53:43.Fara Williams, who has over 160 caps for her country. The depth of squad

:53:44. > :53:46.that England have now surpasses any from the three remaining teams of

:53:47. > :53:49.this competition, and now the expectation is England should go on

:53:50. > :53:58.and win the tournament. How exciting is that? Really exciting. 3.3

:53:59. > :54:08.million watching England's win against France. Are you able to soak

:54:09. > :54:16.up how people you are reacting at home? We are a little bit. Hearing

:54:17. > :54:19.those figures is fantastic. We are doing the commentary on five live,

:54:20. > :54:23.and we know people have been listening, getting involved in

:54:24. > :54:30.Facebook live and on social media. But that is testament to where the

:54:31. > :54:36.journey really started, 2015 is where all the games were shown live

:54:37. > :54:39.on TV. People rarely got home country, Laura Bassett scored an own

:54:40. > :54:43.goal, which meant they got knocked out of the semifinals of the World

:54:44. > :54:46.Cup but they then on to beat Germany in the third-place play-off and get

:54:47. > :54:50.their first-ever medal at a World Cup. Since then, the nation has been

:54:51. > :54:57.behind women's football and those viewing figures prove it. It is

:54:58. > :55:03.moving in the right direction. Certainly is. No prediction for the

:55:04. > :55:09.right? I will throw it back at you after I pitch in, but I am going to

:55:10. > :55:13.go with a two goal differential. Even though Holland had been firing,

:55:14. > :55:20.their forward line are really strong, I am going to go with a 2-0

:55:21. > :55:23.win to England. Slightly less optimistic, 2-1, because it is a

:55:24. > :55:27.home tournament for England but I have no doubt that England will go

:55:28. > :55:33.on to win. Either of those scores I will be happy with. Annie, tell us a

:55:34. > :55:39.bit more about what you do and how you got involved with football? Good

:55:40. > :55:46.morning. I have been a focal coach for over eight years, from the elite

:55:47. > :55:50.and hopefully to the professional game now, just recently completed my

:55:51. > :55:57.one-year development elite coaching programme with the FA. I am aspiring

:55:58. > :56:04.to become an elite coach. And hopefully you will be, what do you

:56:05. > :56:08.make of England's progress? Let's just say when we beat France my

:56:09. > :56:12.next-door neighbour came knocking asking if everything was OK because

:56:13. > :56:15.he had me screaming! I said yes, everything is fine, we reached the

:56:16. > :56:20.semifinals at excite what do you think about the journey that women's

:56:21. > :56:24.football has been on? There have been a lot of hard-core fans but a

:56:25. > :56:29.smaller number of them and it is now getting all of this extra attention,

:56:30. > :56:33.England obviously did so well in Canada at the women's World Cup,

:56:34. > :56:40.Mark Sampson has now led them to the semifinals at two major tournaments.

:56:41. > :56:46.It is a snowball effect from 2015, which has increased participation,

:56:47. > :56:51.the watching, the viewers, and even the media has been supporting the

:56:52. > :56:56.games. Writing in the newspaper, articles on social media. Everything

:56:57. > :57:00.is working on the right direction. I would say we need to do more at

:57:01. > :57:06.grassroot levels rather than at top level because I think at top-level,

:57:07. > :57:12.we are in the quarterfinals tonight, semifinals tonight. We need to do a

:57:13. > :57:18.bit more work at grassroots level to increase grassroots participation.

:57:19. > :57:23.Are there enough opportunities for people to get involved, and the

:57:24. > :57:28.young girls to get involved in playing at a grassroots level?

:57:29. > :57:34.Definitely, with the FA women's strategy launch, which was launched

:57:35. > :57:39.earlier this year by Baroness Sue Campbell. They are strong

:57:40. > :57:41.aspirational females within the national governing body, and they

:57:42. > :57:45.have a vision of where they want to be. I think it is going in the right

:57:46. > :57:48.direction, a little bit more investment would be fine, everyone

:57:49. > :57:58.could do with more money in rescuing a woman's game. We are playing catch

:57:59. > :58:05.up but I think every thing will work out fine. I am going to leave it

:58:06. > :58:13.there because I want to get a quick word from AZ. Prediction for the

:58:14. > :58:15.night? 3-1, England. I think 2-1 England. BBC Newsroom Live is coming

:58:16. > :58:20.up next, thank you for your company today, have a good day.