09/08/2017

:00:07. > :00:08.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:09. > :00:11.Our top story today - tensions escalate as Donald Trump

:00:12. > :00:14.threatens North Korea with "fire and fury like the world has never

:00:15. > :00:17.seen" and the state retaliates by threatening to strike

:00:18. > :00:30.He has been very threatening, beyond the normal state,

:00:31. > :00:33.and, as I say, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power

:00:34. > :00:44.the likes of which this world has never seen before.

:00:45. > :00:51.TRANSLATION: Pli plans would be met with an all-out war, wiping out all

:00:52. > :00:54.the strongholds of enemies including the US mainland.

:00:55. > :01:02.We'll look at what could happen next.

:01:03. > :01:08.People are having surgery to stop themselves needing the loo while out

:01:09. > :01:13.and about because of a lack of toilets.

:01:14. > :01:15.I'm so much healthier because, in general day-to-day,

:01:16. > :01:17.at university, I used to dehydrate myself.

:01:18. > :01:26.I wouldn't drink all day, because I'd need the toilet.

:01:27. > :01:28.Paralympian Anne Wafula Strike who was forced to wet herself

:01:29. > :01:31.on a train when she couldn't find a loo has an exclusive report

:01:32. > :01:40.The Fire Service has drafted in 60 councillors to help treat

:01:41. > :01:47.traumatised firefighters who are struggling to cope with the after

:01:48. > :01:50.effects of battling the Grenfell Tower fire. We'll bring you the

:01:51. > :01:56.story after 10am. Hello and welcome to the programme.

:01:57. > :01:59.We're live until 11am. Today is exactly ten years

:02:00. > :02:02.since the credit crunch hit the UK, leading to the global financial

:02:03. > :02:04.crisis and forcing many of you out of your jobs,

:02:05. > :02:13.your home, your business. This morning, we'll look at how

:02:14. > :02:15.people have recovered. Do get in touch and share your

:02:16. > :02:18.experiences this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria

:02:19. > :02:20.LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:02:21. > :02:33.at the standard network rate. A group of French soldiers on patrol

:02:34. > :02:37.in a western suburb of Paris have been hit by a car.

:02:38. > :02:42.Six of them were injured. Four seriously. A search is under way for

:02:43. > :02:47.the vehicle and the driver. The local mayor said he had no doubt

:02:48. > :02:51.that it had been a deliberate act. Those are all the details we have at

:02:52. > :02:56.the moment. Six soldiers injured after being hit by a vehicle. Four

:02:57. > :03:01.of those soldiers are said to be seriously injured. The local mayor

:03:02. > :03:04.saying he had no doubt it was a deliberate act. As soon as we have

:03:05. > :03:09.more details, of course, we will bring them to you.

:03:10. > :03:11.Tensions between the US and North Korea have

:03:12. > :03:15.President Trump has warned Kim Jong Un that if he goes

:03:16. > :03:16.on threatening America, his country will face

:03:17. > :03:19."fire and fury, like the world has never seen".

:03:20. > :03:21.North Korea says it is considering carrying out missile strikes

:03:22. > :03:24.on the American territory of Guam, an island in the Western Pacific.

:03:25. > :03:32.Suzanne Kianpour reports from Washington.

:03:33. > :03:45.North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.

:03:46. > :03:48.They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.

:03:49. > :03:50.Unprecedented language from an American president.

:03:51. > :03:53.Donald Trump officially escalated the US stand-off with North Korea

:03:54. > :04:00.North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.

:04:01. > :04:04.A report by US Intelligence officials saying Pyongyang has

:04:05. > :04:07.produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit inside its missiles -

:04:08. > :04:11.that much closer to the capability of striking the United States.

:04:12. > :04:13.The President's angry response could throw a wrench into hopes

:04:14. > :04:20.After a rare unanimous vote in the UN Security Council to slap

:04:21. > :04:22.strong sanctions on the regime - a move meant to bring

:04:23. > :04:29.North Korean State News says Kim Jong-un is already weighing

:04:30. > :04:32.a plan to strike the US Pacific territory of Guam which appears

:04:33. > :04:35.to have been in place before Mr Trump's remarks.

:04:36. > :04:38.President Trump often criticised his predecessor,

:04:39. > :04:41.Barack Obama, for not sticking to his red lines in foreign policy

:04:42. > :04:44.when he was here in the White House, but now, Mr Trump has drawn a red

:04:45. > :04:53.The question is - what happens if North Korea crosses it?

:04:54. > :04:58.Let's go to our correspondent Yogita Limaye, who's in Seoul.

:04:59. > :05:11.Well, the Government here have said that it remains vigilant to the

:05:12. > :05:16.threat from North Korea. What they've also said is they are

:05:17. > :05:20.strengthening their defence capabilities, their joint defence

:05:21. > :05:22.capability with the US. The president has reportedly said that

:05:23. > :05:29.the defence system needs to be overhauled in light of this threat,

:05:30. > :05:34.but what South Korea has been doing is following a two-track policy.

:05:35. > :05:37.While it is strengthing its defence policy, but it said it is open to

:05:38. > :05:44.talks with its northern neighbour. It is an offer that the president

:05:45. > :05:47.had made some time back. It was an offer reiterated by the country's

:05:48. > :05:51.Foreign Minister. North Korea has not responded. If you go out on the

:05:52. > :05:54.streets of Seoul and you talk to people. It is a mixed reaction. Some

:05:55. > :05:58.of them aren't really that bothered by the news that's coming out

:05:59. > :06:02.because they say they've they'reed these threats so many times from

:06:03. > :06:08.Pyongyang, that they are almost used to it and they think North Korea

:06:09. > :06:11.could be bluffing. There are others who are worried. A woman I met who

:06:12. > :06:14.said she was concerned and she wishes everyone would just live in

:06:15. > :06:18.peace. The fact is that, it is true of the this is what people here have

:06:19. > :06:23.heard for a long time. But in the current context, there is also now a

:06:24. > :06:27.leader in the US who is using extremely strong language and when

:06:28. > :06:31.that comes together, you know, this war of words is intensifying more

:06:32. > :06:32.than perhaps we have seen in recent years.

:06:33. > :06:39.Thank you very much. Thank you.

:06:40. > :06:45.Let's remind you of the breaking news from Paris where a police

:06:46. > :06:50.operation is under way after a group of patrolling soldiers were hit by a

:06:51. > :06:54.vehicle. Six soldiers are reported to be injured. Two of them, we're

:06:55. > :06:57.told, seriously injured. The police are searching for the vehicle

:06:58. > :07:03.involved. The local mayor says he has no doubt it was a deliberate

:07:04. > :07:08.act. "It is anodious act of aggression. ." The car in question

:07:09. > :07:12.who hit the soldiers was a BMW. So a police operation is under way in

:07:13. > :07:18.Paris after a group of soldiers was hit by a bflt MW as they were on

:07:19. > :07:24.patrol in a western suburb. Six soldiers are reported to be injured.

:07:25. > :07:26.Two of them seriously. And obviously an operation is under way to find

:07:27. > :07:30.the vehicle and the driver. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC

:07:31. > :07:41.Newsroom with a summary A British Paralympian who was forced

:07:42. > :07:47.to wet herself on a train tells us the lack of accessible toilets for

:07:48. > :07:51.disabled people is unacceptable. She says despite a Government promise

:07:52. > :07:56.that it would never happen again, she exposed examples of others who

:07:57. > :08:00.found themselves with no other option but to urnnate on themselves

:08:01. > :08:10.during a train journey. You can watch her film coming up shortly.

:08:11. > :08:13.500 new medical school places will be made available in England

:08:14. > :08:16.next year as the Gvernment attempts to boost the number of home-grown

:08:17. > :08:20.The target is to increase the total number of training places

:08:21. > :08:22.by a quarter by 2020, to help ease staffing pressures.

:08:23. > :08:24.The British Medical Association says it won't address

:08:25. > :08:28.Children's services are being "pushed to breaking point" due

:08:29. > :08:30.to increased demand and cuts in council budgets according

:08:31. > :08:33.The LGA says three-quarters of English councils overspent

:08:34. > :08:36.on child social care by a total of more than ?0.5 billion.

:08:37. > :08:38.A Government spokesman said councils would receive around ?200 billion

:08:39. > :08:49.This programme has learned that the fire service has drafted

:08:50. > :08:53.in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters

:08:54. > :09:00.The figure is more than ten times the number who normally

:09:01. > :09:03.We'll be hearing from the London Fire Authority

:09:04. > :09:06.Those who commit cruelty against animals "are getting away

:09:07. > :09:10.with it" due to the "leniency" of UK courts, according to a report.

:09:11. > :09:12.Of the nearly 14,000 people found guilty of animal cruelty in England

:09:13. > :09:17.and Wales from 2005 to 2015, more than 92% avoided

:09:18. > :09:19.prison, the Centre for Crime Prevention says.

:09:20. > :09:21.It has called for the maximum sentence for offenders to be

:09:22. > :09:24.increased from six months to five years.

:09:25. > :09:29.The Government says it is reviewing the matter.

:09:30. > :09:31.It's exactly 10 years today since the start

:09:32. > :09:37.It started with a warning from French bank BNP Paribas

:09:38. > :09:40.about US housing loans and ended with a global credit

:09:41. > :09:43.crunch as governments around the world propped up banks that

:09:44. > :09:52.Here banks including Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds TSB had to be

:09:53. > :09:59.rescued with billions in taxpayers' money.

:10:00. > :10:02.The AA says seven out of ten drivers avoid parking spaces that

:10:03. > :10:05.It says motorists, especially the older ones,

:10:06. > :10:07.prefer to pay with cash, even if the meters

:10:08. > :10:11.The AA says that many are put off by administration fees and voice

:10:12. > :10:15.Kenya's incumbent President Uhuru Kenyatta has taken a strong lead

:10:16. > :10:18.as votes are counted after Tuesday's election.

:10:19. > :10:23.With more than three-quarters of results in,

:10:24. > :10:26.Mr Kenyatta has a lead of close to 10% over his rival.

:10:27. > :10:28.However, the opposition coalition has rejected the figures,

:10:29. > :10:31.and has accused officials of publishing fake results.

:10:32. > :10:35.Tributes have been paid to the American country music star,

:10:36. > :10:37.Glen Campbell, who has died after what his family called

:10:38. > :10:39.a "long and courageous battle" with Alzheimer's.

:10:40. > :10:59.He was famous for hits including Rhinestone Cowboy

:11:00. > :11:15.Dolly Parton said he had "one of the greatest voices of all time".

:11:16. > :11:24.Let's go to Paris and talk to Johnny Diamond. A police operation Sunday

:11:25. > :11:28.way. What can you tell us? This is as a result of attack that took

:11:29. > :11:34.place just under an hour, maybe an hour ago now. A man or a woman, we

:11:35. > :11:40.don't know, a driver drove into a group of soldiers in the north

:11:41. > :11:44.western suburb, it is 15 minutes drive in the BBC bureau in the

:11:45. > :11:52.centre of Paris. The car injured six of the soldiers. Two of them

:11:53. > :12:02.seriously. Now, those soldiers were part of Operation Sentinal that's in

:12:03. > :12:06.place since 2012, since the attacks on the magazine, Charlie Hebdo. The

:12:07. > :12:12.mayor said it was an intentional attack. As I say, two soldiers

:12:13. > :12:16.seriously injured and four lightly injured. Perhaps of greatest concern

:12:17. > :12:21.after those injuries is the fact that the driver and the vehicle are

:12:22. > :12:25.still at large. There is a large and very serious police operation going

:12:26. > :12:28.on throughout Paris to try and track down the driver and the vehicle

:12:29. > :12:35.whilst investigations are carried out the site itself. You mentioned

:12:36. > :12:38.the Charlie Hebdo attacks, but France has seen numerous attacks

:12:39. > :12:43.like this in recent years, hasn't it? In recent years, in recent

:12:44. > :12:48.months. In fact, there has been, I think, you might call it an

:12:49. > :12:51.uncharacteristic lull in the three months since the presidential

:12:52. > :12:57.election here. An election campaign that was marked by a number of, what

:12:58. > :13:04.you might describe as relatively low level attacks. There have been

:13:05. > :13:08.shootings at police officers in the Champs Elysees a couple of minutes

:13:09. > :13:13.walk from where I am here. There was an attack on a group of soldiers who

:13:14. > :13:22.were on guard outside the Louvre, the great museum, one of the most

:13:23. > :13:25.visited museums in the world. Four Parisians, for the inhabitants of

:13:26. > :13:28.cities around France, the state of alert is a reality because there

:13:29. > :13:34.have been attacks large and small really coming in the last few years

:13:35. > :13:38.in a fairly unseizing flow, whether it has been of the terrifying scale

:13:39. > :13:43.of that of Nice were more than 80 people were killed when a man drove

:13:44. > :13:50.a truck through celebratory crowds or whether it is isolated attacks, a

:13:51. > :13:54.French priest having his throat cut in his own church, in a fairly

:13:55. > :14:00.isolated country church, this has become a normal state for France and

:14:01. > :14:03.this is why this operation is in place, both to reassure the

:14:04. > :14:06.population with high-profile patrols, but also to dissuade and

:14:07. > :14:11.deter those who might carry out the attacks. The risk obviously is that

:14:12. > :14:17.the operation itself becomes a focus for attacks and that appears to have

:14:18. > :14:21.been the case this morning here in the city of Paris, in the suburb of

:14:22. > :14:26.the city of Paris, 15 minutes drive from the centre. Thank you. I know

:14:27. > :14:28.you will be back with us as soon as you have more information. We will

:14:29. > :14:33.keep you updated throughout the morning.

:14:34. > :14:35.And yesterday's World Athletics Championships news

:14:36. > :14:42.was dominated by a man who ultimately wasn't competing.

:14:43. > :14:57.Yes, Isaac Makwala. He wanted to run but it did not happen. He was turned

:14:58. > :15:13.away from the London stadium because of a suspected norovirus. The IAAF

:15:14. > :15:18.decided that they didn't want to risk affecting other athletes. Wayde

:15:19. > :15:22.van Niekerk took a gold medal comfortably in the end. Afterwards

:15:23. > :15:25.he told everyone that he was actually gutted not to take on his

:15:26. > :15:27.closest challenger. And there he is crossing the line.

:15:28. > :15:32.I would love him to have his fair opportunity.

:15:33. > :15:39.I believe he would have done very well this championships and,

:15:40. > :15:45.like I said earlier, I've got so much sympathy for him.

:15:46. > :15:48.I really wish I could even give him my medal.

:15:49. > :15:50.Meanwhile in the 800 metres a quick mention

:15:51. > :15:54.about Britan's Kyle Langford - he missed out on the podium

:15:55. > :15:57.finishing fourth, but he's not letting the disappointment get

:15:58. > :16:00.to him too much saying he's now focusing on the Tokyo

:16:01. > :16:08.So we're halfway through the tournament and that target

:16:09. > :16:10.of Great Britain getting between 6 to 8 medals isn't really looking

:16:11. > :16:21.England women start the defence of the rugby World Cup.

:16:22. > :16:24.Yes with England, Wales and Ireland all playing their first games later

:16:25. > :16:31.but as the action gets under way, there's a row over

:16:32. > :16:33.whether the England team are getting paid fairly,

:16:34. > :16:37.The Rugby Football Union are changing the way they pay

:16:38. > :16:42.So in the future, they'll only pay the women who play the version

:16:43. > :16:44.of the game with seven players, rather than the traditional,

:16:45. > :16:50.Joined now by former England rugby captain Sue Day.

:16:51. > :16:58.Thanks for joining us. It is a brilliant time for win in's sport.

:16:59. > :17:02.We have had World Cup cricket, football, and this tournament will

:17:03. > :17:07.be watched by people all over the world, which is exciting. Really

:17:08. > :17:14.exciting. We have seen coverage for winner's sport increased so much

:17:15. > :17:18.with over 100 million people watching the women's cricket World

:17:19. > :17:23.Cup and our team go to victory is so exciting to see how many people

:17:24. > :17:28.across the globe get the chance to watch this rugby World Cup. I want

:17:29. > :17:33.to take about the tasty line-up. England, defending champions, will

:17:34. > :17:37.mumble one, taking on Spain. We have Ireland versus Australia and Wales

:17:38. > :17:42.taking of New Zealand. Do you think England have it in them to defend

:17:43. > :17:50.the World Cup? Very much so. They just about going to this as

:17:51. > :17:53.favourites having beaten New Zealand in New Zealand in the summer, having

:17:54. > :17:56.lost to New Zealand before that, when they were over here. England go

:17:57. > :18:00.into it as favourites. They are not talking about defending the trophy

:18:01. > :18:04.but winning this tournament. A strong pack and they have a great

:18:05. > :18:11.chance. You talk about Wales playing New Zealand, that is a tough game

:18:12. > :18:16.first up in a World Cup. New Zealand have won the last four World Cups

:18:17. > :18:22.prior to the last one. The row I was talking about is after the

:18:23. > :18:29.tournament, the 15s will not exist and they will only pay the sevens

:18:30. > :18:36.side. How do you feel? The players always knew these were short-term

:18:37. > :18:39.15s contracts. The RFU have said loudly it is a temporary thing and

:18:40. > :18:46.they aren't looking at having full-time contracts for the players,

:18:47. > :18:50.the 15s included in the long-term. In the short-term they are focusing

:18:51. > :18:53.on investing a lot of money in a club game in England. The

:18:54. > :18:58.infrastructure would therefore be there in the future when players

:18:59. > :19:02.hopefully go professional long-term, they will be able to go back to

:19:03. > :19:07.clubs to play full-time and trained with the best coaches. Disappointing

:19:08. > :19:11.now there are not long-term full-time contracts but I'm hopeful

:19:12. > :19:15.it will happen soon. Thank you. That is all, we will be back at 9:30am.

:19:16. > :19:18.Next this morning, in an exclusive report a British Paralympian

:19:19. > :19:21.who was forced to wet herself on a train journey last year

:19:22. > :19:23.because the disabled loo was out of order tells us the lack

:19:24. > :19:29.of accessible toilets for disabled people is unacceptable.

:19:30. > :19:32.Anne Wafula-Strike says despite a government promise that it

:19:33. > :19:35.would never happen again, in a film for us, she's exposed

:19:36. > :19:39.examples of others who've found themselves with no other option,

:19:40. > :19:44.but to urinate on themselves on a train journey.

:19:45. > :19:46.In her investigation for this programme, the wheelchair racer

:19:47. > :19:50.speaks to people who've resorted to drastic measures including having

:19:51. > :19:52.surgery to stop them needing the loo when they're out.

:19:53. > :20:14.I have won medals in wheelchair racing, I have an MBE.

:20:15. > :20:17.But last year I was forced to wet myself on a train.

:20:18. > :20:23.I was on a cross-country route from the Midlands to Stansted.

:20:24. > :20:27.The accessible toilet was out of order.

:20:28. > :20:32.It was one of the most humiliating experiences of my life.

:20:33. > :20:37.At the time, the government's rail minister told me he was committed

:20:38. > :20:40.to ensuring no passenger would go through this again but eight

:20:41. > :20:45.months on, we can reveal it's still happening.

:20:46. > :20:48.I booked the journey to Birmingham six weeks in advance

:20:49. > :20:53.But I found the toilet was out of order when I got on the train.

:20:54. > :21:02.It seems a lack of accessible toilets is a problem everywhere.

:21:03. > :21:10.Many are out of order, not fit for purpose or just filthy.

:21:11. > :21:13.Parents are changing their children on floors covered in urine.

:21:14. > :21:17.There are people out there that are changing people

:21:18. > :21:19.on toilet floors all day, every day, in towns

:21:20. > :21:24.The issue is so extreme that some people are opting for unnecessary

:21:25. > :21:31.surgery because there are no toilets for them to use.

:21:32. > :21:35.I had a catheter fitted which means I don't have to get out of my chair

:21:36. > :21:38.I can go to the toilet wherever I want now.

:21:39. > :21:40.These are the realities faced by people living

:21:41. > :22:08.I've come along to my local athletics track in Harlow to chat

:22:09. > :22:10.to people about what they've come up against.

:22:11. > :22:16.You go out on a night out, bearing in mind half the clubs

:22:17. > :22:18.you kind of can't really get into because of the steps,

:22:19. > :22:21.and you find a club that you can get into...

:22:22. > :22:23.And then the toilet is used as storage.

:22:24. > :22:30.Because they've got storage in there.

:22:31. > :22:33.And then when you ask to go in there, they say, I'm sorry.

:22:34. > :22:39.What seems worse, they're not even maintained properly.

:22:40. > :22:42.I was camping a few years back, I phoned up and said,

:22:43. > :22:47.Got there, and I said, where is the disabled toilet?

:22:48. > :22:53.I just got off my chair, crawled along the floor, climbed up

:22:54. > :22:59.You literally got on the floor from your wheelchair

:23:00. > :23:06.And then you don't want to complain because you just feel like you're

:23:07. > :23:13.It's like, they don't really understand.

:23:14. > :23:17.The only able-bodied people who do understand are the parents,

:23:18. > :23:31.and people who have got friends or children with disabilities.

:23:32. > :23:33.Under the Equality Act, businesses have a legal duty to make

:23:34. > :23:35.reasonable adjustments so that their loos are accessible

:23:36. > :23:40.But recent research suggests as many as 40% of restaurants and a third

:23:41. > :23:44.of department stores still don't have appropriate toilets.

:23:45. > :23:49.Some people are taking the problem into their own hands.

:23:50. > :23:51.At 20, Manny decided to undergo surgery she had no need

:23:52. > :23:54.for because she couldn't find anywhere to go to

:23:55. > :24:05.Just down to my favourite cocktail bar.

:24:06. > :24:10.Oh, you're taking me to a cocktail bar, wow!

:24:11. > :24:17.She's used a power chair since he was three and needs a hoist

:24:18. > :24:22.Manny, you like going out with your friends,

:24:23. > :24:25.and I know when you're out you want to have a drink or you want

:24:26. > :24:36.How is that like? So, when I first went to university,

:24:37. > :24:41.I would avoid drinking as much as I could, because if I needed

:24:42. > :24:44.the toilet, I'd have to go home and leave the night out early,

:24:45. > :24:47.because I'd need a hoist and a plinth to be able

:24:48. > :24:59.Two years next month, I had a catheter fitted which means

:25:00. > :25:04.I don't have to get out of my chair to go to the toilet.

:25:05. > :25:08.So I can go to the toilet wherever I want now, so it's incredible.

:25:09. > :25:15.It's completely changed my life, I'm so much healthier because I can,

:25:16. > :25:19.not on nights out but in general day to day, I used to,

:25:20. > :25:20.at university I used to dehydrate myself,

:25:21. > :25:23.I wouldn't drink all day because I need the toilet.

:25:24. > :25:27.They create a hole just beneath your belly button to put

:25:28. > :25:37.And basically, it's like putting a needle in and a slightly bigger

:25:38. > :25:40.needle in and a slightly bigger needle until the hole is big enough

:25:41. > :25:44.I just can't believe that you actually opted

:25:45. > :25:48.to have an operation without any medical need.

:25:49. > :25:53.Yeah, no medical need, I wasn't incontinent.

:25:54. > :26:01.My urologist called it socially incontinent, where basically,

:26:02. > :26:03.it meant I was incontinent when I was out because I

:26:04. > :26:06.Because there wasn't the facilities there.

:26:07. > :26:08.And although it's incredible and it's life changing

:26:09. > :26:13.and I wouldn't change it for the world, I kind

:26:14. > :26:17.of wish I didn't have to in the first place.

:26:18. > :26:25.I was shocked to hear what lengths Manny was forced to go through.

:26:26. > :26:29.She maintains it was worth the risks.

:26:30. > :26:33.What has this operation meant for you?

:26:34. > :26:37.It's given me a lot more freedom, a lot more independence.

:26:38. > :26:40.I don't have to worry about having inaccessible toilets,

:26:41. > :26:43.I can just go out and have fun like anyone else.

:26:44. > :26:46.I've got so many friends that have had them done.

:26:47. > :26:48.It's quite ridiculous how many people have had to go through it

:26:49. > :26:53.just to be able to go to the toilet when they're out.

:26:54. > :26:56.Personally, I sort of feel like it's not fair that young people

:26:57. > :27:03.with certain disabilities are actually going to the length

:27:04. > :27:06.of having operations that they do not need.

:27:07. > :27:12.I mean, there's always things in life that you kind of can't do

:27:13. > :27:16.I mean, there's always things in life that you cand and can't do

:27:17. > :27:19.I mean, there's always things in life that you can and can't do

:27:20. > :27:22.but not being able to go to the toilet, purely

:27:23. > :27:24.because there's no facilities there, is just ridiculous.

:27:25. > :27:26.There are actually some public toilets in full with severe

:27:27. > :27:28.There are actually some public toilets people with severe

:27:29. > :27:30.They are called changing places toilets.

:27:31. > :27:35.They have more spaces and specialist equipment but there are only around

:27:36. > :27:38.a thousand across the UK, and it's estimated a quarter of

:27:39. > :27:44.There aren't any in some parts of the country.

:27:45. > :27:46.It's been really good, we've got nine changing places

:27:47. > :27:50.Lorna needs one for her daughter Emily Mae, who has

:27:51. > :27:58.Lorna, tell me, how does a changing places toilet look like,

:27:59. > :28:01.how does it work, and why is it important?

:28:02. > :28:04.Well, this is an adult changing bench and it actually

:28:05. > :28:13.And that means that you can lay somebody on there to have their

:28:14. > :28:21.I've been changing my daughter on a baby change facility

:28:22. > :28:23.for a long, long time, but she's obviously

:28:24. > :28:27.And we need adult changing places toilets like these.

:28:28. > :28:30.Because without these, I'd either have to change her on the toilet

:28:31. > :28:34.floor or find somewhere else to change her.

:28:35. > :28:37.But the other important bit of kit is that you've got this hoist.

:28:38. > :28:40.So you can hoist somebody out of their wheelchair onto the adult

:28:41. > :28:43.changing bench or you can hoist a person onto the toilet.

:28:44. > :28:51.So are you telling me that without certain facilities,

:28:52. > :28:53.So are you telling me that without such facilities,

:28:54. > :28:55.you actually have to change your daughter on this floor?

:28:56. > :28:58.There are people out there that are changing people on toilet floors

:28:59. > :29:01.all day every day in towns and cities across the UK.

:29:02. > :29:03.There's people with very low immunities who are at risk

:29:04. > :29:07.of catching infections from toilet floors.

:29:08. > :29:10.There are people with feeding tubes, tracheostomies, all sorts of things

:29:11. > :29:13.that you do not want to get dirty, and which could actually kill

:29:14. > :29:15.somebody if they got an infection into it.

:29:16. > :29:19.I want these in all large public buildings, and I'm not

:29:20. > :29:23.talking little teashops, I'm talking cinemas, theatres,

:29:24. > :29:26.hospitals, town halls and in larger public buildings.

:29:27. > :29:30.Particularly when they're being built brand-new.

:29:31. > :29:33.And also equipment like this, to have a facility like this,

:29:34. > :29:43.You see why some businesses would say why it's expensive to afford.

:29:44. > :29:46.I can understand small businesses, but we're talking about a lot

:29:47. > :29:50.There's a shopping centre near us that's just spent ?180,000

:29:51. > :29:57.They have not included a changing places toilet facility.

:29:58. > :30:00.There are people who cannot go out just because of a simple toilet,

:30:01. > :30:10.A recent government committee recommended this toilet should be

:30:11. > :30:13.made compulsory in large buildings that serve the public,

:30:14. > :30:20.but no legislation has been put in place to make that happen.

:30:21. > :30:23.But will it happen went access to standard disabled

:30:24. > :30:32.Despite promises that no one else would have to suffer

:30:33. > :30:34.the humiliation I went through, in May, Virgin Trains had

:30:35. > :30:43.He was forced to wet himself because the accessible toilet on one

:30:44. > :30:51.I booked a journey to Birmingham six weeks in advance,

:30:52. > :30:57.But I found the toilet was out of order when I got on the train.

:30:58. > :31:03.When I arrived to check in at the station, someone

:31:04. > :31:11.somewhere knew that that's when it was out of order.

:31:12. > :31:14.And someone should have given me the choice to either take the risk,

:31:15. > :31:16.maybe travel anyway, or get a later train.

:31:17. > :31:20.But nobody told me the toilet was out of order and nobody gave me

:31:21. > :31:22.those choices and they didn't communicate with me at all,

:31:23. > :31:26.I was disgusted by the attitude of the train company that

:31:27. > :31:30.I was angry about the train company's negligence,

:31:31. > :31:33.knowing that there was a passenger, a wheelchair user, needing that

:31:34. > :31:39.They should have got the toilet ready and had it in working order.

:31:40. > :31:42.You know, after I had my accident on the train, when I wet

:31:43. > :31:44.myself on the train, I had a meeting with

:31:45. > :31:49.And he assured me that no such incident would be

:31:50. > :31:55.I think that assurance is completely worthless,

:31:56. > :32:04.The Minister hasn't managed to fulfil that promise.

:32:05. > :32:06.Do you think many people, wheelchair users will continue

:32:07. > :32:08.to wet themselves on the trains because the toilets

:32:09. > :32:15.Yes, I've spoken to many wheelchair users and it's

:32:16. > :32:23.And I'm sure it's going to happen many times again.

:32:24. > :32:26.I've never had a problem on the line we are travelling on at the moment,

:32:27. > :32:31.but there is clearly still an issue across the UK.

:32:32. > :32:36.So I've decided it's time to go back to the rail minister

:32:37. > :32:40.He tells me they are working on an action plan to

:32:41. > :32:44.improve access ability across-the-board in transport.

:32:45. > :32:47.Paul, you know, when I had my terrible incident on the train,

:32:48. > :32:50.you promised that no other passenger would have to suffer

:32:51. > :32:58.So, what guarantee can you give us that there's

:32:59. > :33:05.I'm hoping that when people see the accessibility action plan,

:33:06. > :33:09.they will see in it a range of ideas that will not just make sure

:33:10. > :33:12.passengers get a better service on the day, but that we can work

:33:13. > :33:15.more tactically and more strategically to make sure that more

:33:16. > :33:23.toilets are in service on trains in the first place.

:33:24. > :33:26.What are you going to do to make sure that the train companies

:33:27. > :33:28.actually serve the disabled traveller?

:33:29. > :33:34.There is strict legal rules in place as to what threshold of achievement

:33:35. > :33:43.The office for road and rail enforces that and I've been

:33:44. > :33:45.very clearly to them, I want them to take it

:33:46. > :33:49.Talking to the minister, this action plan could be a step

:33:50. > :33:52.in the right direction, but we don't know the details

:33:53. > :33:59.There's around seven million working age people

:34:00. > :34:09.People may not understand why such a fuss is being made about toilets.

:34:10. > :34:11.But when you have a disability, knowing you're not defined

:34:12. > :34:16.So, this is not just an issue about access to toilets.

:34:17. > :34:35.It's about access to all areas of life.

:34:36. > :34:42.It has happened quite a few of you. Mum on a mission said, "This

:34:43. > :34:47.happened to me and my son this week at a big supermarket. Disabled

:34:48. > :34:52.toilets are not fit for purpose. It was embarrassing for me, but

:34:53. > :34:53.degrading and uncomfortable for my son."

:34:54. > :34:56.If this has happened to you, then let me know because we'd

:34:57. > :34:59.like to talk to you via Facetime or Skype on the programme today.

:35:00. > :35:02.Put your number on your message and we'll call you back.

:35:03. > :35:04.More on this to come through the programme this morning.

:35:05. > :35:06.Let's return to the breaking news this morning.

:35:07. > :35:09.Police in Paris say a group of French soldiers on patrol

:35:10. > :35:11.in a western suburb have been hit by a car.

:35:12. > :35:16.Dymond Is in the French capital and gave us this update.

:35:17. > :35:21.Well, this is as a result of an attack that took place just under an

:35:22. > :35:27.hour ago, maybe an hour now. A man or woman, we don't know, a driver,

:35:28. > :35:31.drove into a group of soldiers in the north western suburb of

:35:32. > :35:36.Levallois-Perre. It's about 15 minutes drive from the BBC bureau in

:35:37. > :35:40.the centre of Paris. The car injured six of the soldiers, two of them

:35:41. > :35:45.seriously. Those soldiers were part of what is called Operation

:35:46. > :35:48.Sentinell a heightened state of counter terror alert that's been in

:35:49. > :35:55.place now since 2012, since the attacks on the offices of the

:35:56. > :35:58.satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. The mayor of the neighbourhood,

:35:59. > :36:03.Levallois-Perre said this is an intentional attack. As I say, two

:36:04. > :36:06.soldiers seriously injured and four lightly injured and perhaps of

:36:07. > :36:11.greatest concern after those injuries is the fact that the driver

:36:12. > :36:16.and the vehicle are still at large. There is a large and very serious

:36:17. > :36:18.police operation going on throughout Paris to try and track down the

:36:19. > :36:21.driver. We will keep you up-to-date

:36:22. > :36:24.throughout the morning. Tensions between the US

:36:25. > :36:29.and North Korea have Pyongyang says it's

:36:30. > :36:32.considering launching a ballistic missile strike close to the US

:36:33. > :36:34.military base on Guam President Trump has declared

:36:35. > :36:37.that any further threats from the North Koreans will be met

:36:38. > :36:47.with a devastating response. This programme has learned

:36:48. > :36:50.that the Fire Service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help treat

:36:51. > :36:52.traumatised firefighters The figure is more than 10 times

:36:53. > :36:56.the number who normally We'll be hearing from

:36:57. > :37:18.the London Fire Authority 500 new doctors will be recruited.

:37:19. > :37:21.It is to help ease staffing pressures. The British Medical

:37:22. > :37:25.Association says it won't address the shortage of medics.

:37:26. > :37:28.Kenya's incumbent President Uhuru Kenyatta has taken a strong lead

:37:29. > :37:30.as votes are counted after Tuesday's election.

:37:31. > :37:31.With more than three-quarters of results in,

:37:32. > :37:34.Mr Kenyatta has a lead of close to 10% over his rival.

:37:35. > :37:36.However, the opposition coalition has rejected the figures,

:37:37. > :37:47.and has accused officials of publishing fake results.

:37:48. > :37:55.We will keep you up-to-date throughout the morning with the news

:37:56. > :38:01.from morning. Paris throughout the morning.

:38:02. > :38:03.Four former footballers - all survivors of childhood

:38:04. > :38:06.sexual abuse - are calling on the Government to introduce

:38:07. > :38:07.new laws to protect children from the kind

:38:08. > :38:12.David White, Derek Bell, Ian Ackley and Paul Stewart,

:38:13. > :38:15.three of whom are here in the studio with us today, set-up

:38:16. > :38:18.Save to improve safeguarding in football and to help other

:38:19. > :38:29.with former footballers who were

:38:30. > :38:31.abused during their childhood - many on this programme -

:38:32. > :38:34.hundreds of people came forward to report abuse to the police.

:38:35. > :38:36.Let's talk now with three of the four former professional

:38:37. > :38:40.Former Man City and England player David White, former Newcastle player

:38:41. > :38:43.Derek Bell and Ian Ackley, who way back in the 1990s spoke up

:38:44. > :38:52.Welcome all of you. David tell us more about Save and how you came to

:38:53. > :38:56.set it up? We didn't intend to set it up. That's the most important

:38:57. > :39:02.thing. On the back of last November we were invited individually to the

:39:03. > :39:07.FA. From day one we found them very, very receptive. We found them very

:39:08. > :39:10.professional. The safeguarding policies very thorough and they let

:39:11. > :39:14.us in and we have been working with them on a fairly regular basis since

:39:15. > :39:19.then and it just developed. It just seemed to become the right thing for

:39:20. > :39:22.us to do, for us to, I suppose, we have been working quietly in the

:39:23. > :39:25.back ground for us to say this is what we have been doing. This is

:39:26. > :39:31.what we're going to be doing in the future. So Save safeguarding the

:39:32. > :39:35.victim and victim engagement and we want to actually sort of celebrate

:39:36. > :39:40.the thoroughness of we believe safeguarding that is in football and

:39:41. > :39:45.probably in other sports for the FA to share those practises, but we've

:39:46. > :39:52.discovered in many ways that legislation is a barrier to that.

:39:53. > :39:55.Let me bring in Ian. Where do you believe the legislation is allowing

:39:56. > :40:01.children potentially to slip through the net to fall through the net? I

:40:02. > :40:05.think that the DBS system that we've got in this country in my opinion

:40:06. > :40:13.isn't fit for purpose. That's the old criminal records check? Yes,

:40:14. > :40:17.absolutely, yeah. We've got a situation whereby a person can have

:40:18. > :40:21.a criminal record check and they are working or volunteering at an

:40:22. > :40:25.organisation, they can be barred from working with children or young

:40:26. > :40:29.adults because they are deemed to be a risk and the DBS system isn't

:40:30. > :40:35.allowed to tell the organisation that the person has been barred from

:40:36. > :40:39.working with them. And that's on the basis that it breaks data protection

:40:40. > :40:43.so it breaks their Human Rights. It is ill logical, what is the point of

:40:44. > :40:47.the system if it doesn't trigger information to the people hiring the

:40:48. > :40:51.individual? Absolutely. We talk about breaking people's Human

:40:52. > :40:54.Rights, then actually we do that on a daily basis when we incarcerate

:40:55. > :40:58.people and put them in prison because they are a risk to society.

:40:59. > :41:01.We say it's OK to take away their liberty and their freedom, their

:41:02. > :41:06.right to a private and family life because they need to be incarcerated

:41:07. > :41:09.to keep society safe. On one hand the Government is saying, well, it's

:41:10. > :41:13.OK to disregard the Human Rights Act in order to protect society, but on

:41:14. > :41:18.the other hand, to protect children and vulnerable adults, it's not OK.

:41:19. > :41:24.OK. So that's one area where you can see loopholes could be tightened up.

:41:25. > :41:31.Yes? In terms of legislation. Derek, what about mandatory reporting We

:41:32. > :41:35.formed a group as I say and there is 11 charters on that. One of them

:41:36. > :41:40.which is mandatory reporting which we feel very strongly about. That

:41:41. > :41:45.means professionals, volunteers, anybody in football, halving a legal

:41:46. > :41:50.duty to report either abuse or suspected abuse to the authorities?

:41:51. > :41:54.Correct. There is the system in Scotland that is in place, but not

:41:55. > :41:58.in England. Which I think it is an educational point of view. People

:41:59. > :42:03.think that, you know, there should be mandatory reporting. Parents, you

:42:04. > :42:05.know, can, you know, report mandatory reporting, but it's not

:42:06. > :42:10.legislation as yet and that's something that we have been

:42:11. > :42:13.campaigning to Government and campaigning with Government to try

:42:14. > :42:17.and change the law where it is up to a parent, if they see something

:42:18. > :42:23.wrong on a football pitch or in any sport, they have got an obligation

:42:24. > :42:26.and a duty of care to report that incident and we're fighting

:42:27. > :42:29.hopefully to, you know, get mandatory reporting in place. A lot

:42:30. > :42:31.of people think it is in place at the minute, but it isn't actually

:42:32. > :42:37.legislation. OK. Ian, in the past, and when you

:42:38. > :42:42.first spoke to us back in November, you criticised the Football

:42:43. > :42:46.Association in England. You said it had reacted dismissively to worries

:42:47. > :42:50.about sexual abuse in the game when they emerged in the 1990s, your

:42:51. > :42:54.dad's call for better protection fell on deaf ears. Have you changed

:42:55. > :42:58.your mind about the FA? I have to since they have invited us to speak

:42:59. > :43:03.with them, my opinion has definitely changed. What my experience of the

:43:04. > :43:08.safeguarding team at the FA and the work we've done so far has changed

:43:09. > :43:13.my prospective. I really do believe that the FA are working very, very

:43:14. > :43:17.hard in order to make football as robust and as safe as possibly can

:43:18. > :43:21.do. They will be the first to admit there are always changes that can be

:43:22. > :43:24.made and improvements will always be ongoing, the landscape changes and

:43:25. > :43:27.we need to keep up with the times, but actually, they're doing a

:43:28. > :43:32.tremendous amount of work to make sure that they do make football an

:43:33. > :43:37.incredibly safe and is an incredibly safe sport for our children. Do you

:43:38. > :43:41.have faith in the FA's internal inquiry into historical sexual abuse

:43:42. > :43:46.in the game? Absolutely. With all three of us and Paul have been down,

:43:47. > :43:49.we've taken part and just speaking with the guys down there, they are

:43:50. > :43:53.taking it very, very seriously and it's going to be about obviously

:43:54. > :43:55.what's happened in the past and recommendations moving forward and

:43:56. > :44:00.we hope to be auble to contribute to that. Obviously we would always

:44:01. > :44:03.reserve jult until those inquiries come out, but without a doubt, there

:44:04. > :44:08.is nothing we have seen within the FA that would cast any doubt about

:44:09. > :44:12.the thoroughness, the integrity, both in terms of the inquiry and of

:44:13. > :44:17.safeguarding moving forward and support for survivors as well. Let

:44:18. > :44:22.me ask all of you, since, I mean, Ian, as I said, you spoke out in the

:44:23. > :44:27.90s and torve's disgrace, it really wasn't taken anywhere. No. You spoke

:44:28. > :44:31.out again. You all did last year. What has been the impact for you?

:44:32. > :44:36.What effect has that had on each of you individually, Derek, let me

:44:37. > :44:42.start with you, since you spoke out? When I first come out, you know, I

:44:43. > :44:51.wasn't aware of how the much of an impact it would make. Something like

:44:52. > :44:58.700 live cases, but you know there was - I didn't know David. I didn't

:44:59. > :45:02.know Ian. We got together and we had a lot of synergy together. We used

:45:03. > :45:07.our experiences and it is all different parts of process to form

:45:08. > :45:12.Save and hopefully to make some changes that are really meaningful

:45:13. > :45:14.changes and in fact if we as a group can do that, then it will be

:45:15. > :45:19.fantastic. What about you, David? What about

:45:20. > :45:25.the effect on you? I would agree with Derek. The four of us getting

:45:26. > :45:28.together and being part of the process has been fantastic. The

:45:29. > :45:34.support from the FA has been incredible. We've got an

:45:35. > :45:43.unbelievable union in the PFA, the support from day one from Gordon

:45:44. > :45:47.Taylor and from Darren Wilson, who I think has been the first point of

:45:48. > :45:50.contact has been exemplary. Everything comes up after many, many

:45:51. > :45:55.years, but we have been able to support each other in that process

:45:56. > :46:00.and that's what we want to do with Save is to help make everybody else

:46:01. > :46:06.part of a process in terms of improving the safeguarding landscape

:46:07. > :46:10.and making sure that the survivors liaison and Victim Support is where

:46:11. > :46:13.it needs to be. So, it is great comfort and we've enjoyed this work.

:46:14. > :46:15.That's the most important thing and that's why we intend to carry it on.

:46:16. > :46:25.And yourself, Ian? The impact has been profound. The

:46:26. > :46:30.impact this time around was greater than it was 20 years ago. I am no

:46:31. > :46:35.longer working where I was working. I walked away from that line of

:46:36. > :46:40.work. The impact of my partner, children has been huge. I would be

:46:41. > :46:46.lying if I said it was not. What has come out of it, it is something very

:46:47. > :46:50.positive. I am a great believer you can take something that has a

:46:51. > :46:54.negative impact and turn it around into something positive and grow

:46:55. > :46:59.from that and learn from that and leading in a positive direction,

:47:00. > :47:02.that is a good thing. The relationship we have formed the work

:47:03. > :47:06.we are doing and we have done quietly behind the scenes has been

:47:07. > :47:12.totally worthwhile. Ultimately, I the impact it has had on me

:47:13. > :47:17.personally is that it is worthwhile in the long run in that what will

:47:18. > :47:23.come out is something positive, not for was, but children and vulnerable

:47:24. > :47:30.adults in the future. -- not for us. If we can leave that as a legacy it

:47:31. > :47:35.is a job well done. I have not asked about unaffiliated clubs, small

:47:36. > :47:37.drops, not affiliated to the FA, so don't have to follow the

:47:38. > :47:47.safeguarding rules you have said are good from the FA point of view. They

:47:48. > :47:52.are a great concern. We have a voluntary system. Unaffiliated

:47:53. > :47:57.clubs, there is nothing to say they have to register with anybody. It

:47:58. > :48:03.could be a guide, lady who has a bag of balls, some cones, in the park,

:48:04. > :48:07.starting up. Soccer schools, short-term camps effectively there

:48:08. > :48:11.to make money. Not there are essentially for the welfare of the

:48:12. > :48:17.children and many soccer schools in the summer are not affiliated to the

:48:18. > :48:21.FA. They do not half to answer questions about regulations,

:48:22. > :48:27.standards. If they want to, they not bother taking out checks because it

:48:28. > :48:32.is voluntary and Bacon said they chose not to. And if it were

:48:33. > :48:37.latterly found out they were, they can say I did not know that. It is

:48:38. > :48:44.not a compulsory scheme. It is an area with a lot of concern. The FA

:48:45. > :48:48.hands are tied in that respect. A lot of work needs to be done in that

:48:49. > :48:59.area to make it secure. Thank you very much. More on the breaking news

:49:00. > :49:05.from Paris with six French soldiers injured after being hit by a car in

:49:06. > :49:09.a western suburb of Paris. They want patrol in a suburb called

:49:10. > :49:15.Levallois-Perret. Apparently the vehicle was a BMW. We can speak to a

:49:16. > :49:21.journalist in Paris he was at the scene. Hello, I can say that I saw

:49:22. > :49:27.the streets blocked by police because maybe a terror attacked

:49:28. > :49:35.happened early this morning. We do not have a lot of information. I can

:49:36. > :49:47.say that, a man tried to rush into the military. Six people were

:49:48. > :49:51.injured. The minister is coming but we cannot see anything now because

:49:52. > :50:00.the streets are blocked by the police. OK, thank you very much. We

:50:01. > :50:10.will keep you updated on that story through the morning. It is eight

:50:11. > :50:15.weeks Instagram 45. The Fire Brigade's rescue operation, to get

:50:16. > :50:18.hundreds of people out, was unprecedented. Having to make life

:50:19. > :50:26.or death decisions about who to leave and who to say. It will take a

:50:27. > :50:31.long time to heal the mental scars. Jesus Christ, baked.

:50:32. > :52:38.We could see this was a bad word immediately. The sky was glowing.

:52:39. > :52:44.We sat looking at the building we had come out of. It is worse now,

:52:45. > :52:50.the fire is everywhere and it is fierce. It is hard to comprehend we

:52:51. > :52:55.were just in there. At no stage did they waver. They were going in time

:52:56. > :52:59.and again, battling through intense heat to get to the floors to find

:53:00. > :53:03.people missing, even though they knew their lives could potentially

:53:04. > :53:09.be in danger and for that I am truly grateful and the people who attended

:53:10. > :53:12.the fire, who took 999 calls, they are heroes in my eyes and they made

:53:13. > :53:40.me proud to be the London Fire Commissioner.

:53:41. > :53:46.Heroes. I mean, they are heroes. They went in to try to save people,

:53:47. > :54:03.in that. I just... They are heroes. Now this programme has learned the

:54:04. > :54:08.Fire Service has drafted in 60 counsellors to help to treat

:54:09. > :54:13.traumatised firefighters. More than ten times the number who normally

:54:14. > :54:18.works of the brigade, after cutbacks that have seen this service almost

:54:19. > :54:24.halved. We can speak to a member of the London fire authority that has

:54:25. > :54:30.approved funding for those counsellor. And a former counsellor

:54:31. > :54:37.with the London Fire Brigade. Tell us about the decision to bring in 60

:54:38. > :54:41.counsellors and why it is needed. We felt the fantastic response, not

:54:42. > :54:44.from just the firefighters who went into the building, but the people

:54:45. > :54:49.who had to take lengthy phone calls that came through to the 999

:54:50. > :54:54.operators and a decision was taken at the beginning to bring in

:54:55. > :54:58.counsellors, so nobody left the site that evening without having spoken

:54:59. > :55:11.to someone and they have had access to a 20 47 helpline. There has been

:55:12. > :55:15.an opportunity for counselling but that was augmented because it was

:55:16. > :55:21.such a horrible thing that happened at Grenfell and they were so brave.

:55:22. > :55:25.We need to ensure... Years past we have ignored mental health needs as

:55:26. > :55:30.a result of terrible traumas they have gone through. This number of 60

:55:31. > :55:34.is a lot of counsellors, and administration of how much need

:55:35. > :55:40.there is from firefighters. Absolutely. We felt it important to

:55:41. > :55:43.ensure firefighters who went into the building and also people who

:55:44. > :55:48.took the lengthy phone calls have the opportunity to have counselling

:55:49. > :55:53.and to make sure they did not have lasting trauma from the events at

:55:54. > :55:59.Grenfell. Siobhan McGee, what do you say to people who say that is a

:56:00. > :56:07.firefighter's job after all, smack firefighters are resilient people.

:56:08. > :56:13.They are well trained. In the main they are resilient. But if you are

:56:14. > :56:20.exposed to lots of traumatic incidents, it may take a toll and it

:56:21. > :56:23.is important to support. You used to work for the counselling service.

:56:24. > :56:32.What kinds of things will the firefighters be going through? A lot

:56:33. > :56:35.of the symptoms of trauma, traumatic stress, are quite normal to

:56:36. > :56:44.experience following a traumatic incident. They may be experiencing

:56:45. > :56:49.physically shaking in their body, elevated heart rate, they might have

:56:50. > :56:54.disturbed sleep, they might have nightmares, intrusive images and

:56:55. > :56:59.flashbacks. All of that is quite natural. It is the body trying to

:57:00. > :57:03.process the trauma and it is quite normal to have that anything up to a

:57:04. > :57:07.month following the critical incident. One firefighter speaking

:57:08. > :57:12.after Grenfell said, it will say with me all my life. We were offered

:57:13. > :57:16.a session with a counsellor which I took up and it did help but nothing

:57:17. > :57:27.will get those images out of my mind. How do you help somebody like

:57:28. > :57:31.that? Clearly, it was such a tragedy and traumatic incident for anybody

:57:32. > :57:36.involved for the families who lost their loved ones and people who lost

:57:37. > :57:42.their homes and also for first responders. What happens in trauma

:57:43. > :57:47.is that memories initially are in the short-term memory. The brain is

:57:48. > :57:53.like a big filing cabinet. With trauma, it is like files have been

:57:54. > :58:00.taken out of the filing cabinet and thrown all over the room. Fragments

:58:01. > :58:05.of memory often come back, but, over time, what happens is once trauma

:58:06. > :58:11.memory gets processed, it goes into the long-term memory and then the

:58:12. > :58:15.images become... They do not have such a distressing impact. They

:58:16. > :58:25.become less distressing. OK, thank you very much. We will bring you the

:58:26. > :58:31.latest news and sport in a moment. Before that, the weather and Carol.

:58:32. > :58:39.Good morning, we have seen an array of whether this morning. I will show

:58:40. > :58:42.you some of it using weather watchers' pictures. As we come

:58:43. > :58:52.further north, lovely blue skies. Rey Lee-Lo a variety. And this one

:58:53. > :58:56.also in Scotland, lovely blue skies. High-pressure showing its influence

:58:57. > :58:59.across much of the UK but equally we have a weather front sinking south,

:59:00. > :59:12.bringing rain and as temperatures rise ahead of it, showers will

:59:13. > :59:16.develop. As we move north, it brightens up across northern

:59:17. > :59:19.England, Wales, the North Midlands and eventually the south-west.

:59:20. > :59:26.Northern Ireland and Scotland hang on to the lion's share of the

:59:27. > :59:31.sunshine. Currently, areas of cloud but they will break away and we will

:59:32. > :59:36.see more sunshine. Highs up to 21, feeling quite pleasant. This is the

:59:37. > :59:40.sun coming out across northern England. You can see where we have

:59:41. > :59:45.the cloud. A pleasant afternoon in the north and west of Wales, but in

:59:46. > :59:51.the south-west of England he will brighten up later in the day, and

:59:52. > :59:58.then we headed to rain in Hampshire, Isle of Wight, and Kent. If you are

:59:59. > :00:02.travelling today, especially in East Anglia and south-east England, there

:00:03. > :00:08.is a risk of travel disruption due to the amount of rainfall. We may

:00:09. > :00:13.have issues with surface water flooding, for examples. Overnight

:00:14. > :00:19.the rain edges down, and where we have laid rain, patchy mist and fog

:00:20. > :00:22.will be forming. A lot of dry weather around. Temperatures

:00:23. > :00:28.indicating what you can expect in towns and cities. In rural areas it

:00:29. > :00:33.could get down to four Celsius. Tomorrow, we lose the front from the

:00:34. > :00:37.south-east but we have another area of low pressure. Tomorrow a

:00:38. > :00:42.different day across northern and western parts of Scotland with more

:00:43. > :00:46.cloud and lower temperatures and rain on the islands. We lose the

:00:47. > :00:52.rain in the south-east. Between, a lot of dry weather with a fair bit

:00:53. > :00:56.of sunshine. Much drier across England and Wales compared to what

:00:57. > :01:01.we have had of late. Friday, the front coming in across the

:01:02. > :01:05.north-west on Thursday sinks southwards taking rain with it. A

:01:06. > :01:07.weakening feature as it gets to the south-east. Saturday and Sunday,

:01:08. > :01:11.drier weather with sunshine. Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 10am,

:01:12. > :01:23.I'm Victoria Derbyshire. A car hit have group of soldiers in

:01:24. > :01:27.Paris injuring six, two seriously. We'll keep you up-to-date with that

:01:28. > :01:29.story through the morning. President Trump promises

:01:30. > :01:30."fire and fury" if there are any more threats

:01:31. > :01:33.to attack the United States. North Korea responds

:01:34. > :01:35.by threatening just that - singling out a US military base

:01:36. > :01:38.2000 miles away. North Korea best not

:01:39. > :01:42.make any more threats They will be met with fire and fury

:01:43. > :02:16.like the world has never seen. People are having surgery to stop

:02:17. > :02:18.themselves needing the loo when out because of the lack of accessible

:02:19. > :02:30.disabled toilets. Ridiculous what people have to go

:02:31. > :02:46.through to go to the toilet when they are out.

:02:47. > :02:49.We'll be speaking to paralympian Anne Wafula Strike to find out more.

:02:50. > :02:51.And it's now ten years since the financial crisis began.

:02:52. > :02:54.We'll speak to a group of people whose lives were affected about how

:02:55. > :03:06.Police in Paris say a group of soldiers have been hit by a car. A

:03:07. > :03:10.search Sunday way for the vehicle and the driver. The low canical

:03:11. > :03:27.mayor said he had no doubt it was a deliberate act.

:03:28. > :03:30.Well, this is as a result of an attack that took place

:03:31. > :03:32.just under an hour ago, maybe an hour now.

:03:33. > :03:35.A man or woman, we don't know, a driver, drove into a group

:03:36. > :03:37.of soldiers in the north western suburb of Levallois-Perre.

:03:38. > :03:39.It's about 15 minutes drive from the BBC bureau

:03:40. > :03:43.The car injured six of the soldiers, two of them seriously.

:03:44. > :03:46.Those soldiers were part of what is called Operation Sentinell

:03:47. > :03:48.a heightened state of counter terror alert that's been in place now

:03:49. > :03:51.since 2012, since the attacks on the offices of the satirical

:03:52. > :03:57.was an intentional attack. Levallois-Perre, has said this

:03:58. > :04:00.As I say, two soldiers seriously injured and four lightly injured

:04:01. > :04:02.and perhaps of greatest concern after those injuries

:04:03. > :04:05.is the fact that the driver and the vehicle are still at large.

:04:06. > :04:08.There is a large and very serious police operation going on throughout

:04:09. > :04:13.Paris to try and track down the driver.

:04:14. > :04:20.North Korea says it is considering launching a bass saoul strike in the

:04:21. > :04:27.western Pacific. The threat comes after reports that Pyongyang has

:04:28. > :04:32.produced a nuclear warhead to fit on its ballistic missiles.

:04:33. > :04:34.This programme has learned that the Fire Service has drafted

:04:35. > :04:36.in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters

:04:37. > :04:43.The figure is more than ten times the number who normally

:04:44. > :04:51.We felt that the fantastic response, not just from the firefighters who

:04:52. > :04:55.went into the building, but also from the people who had to take some

:04:56. > :04:58.of those lengthy phone calls, that had come through to the 999

:04:59. > :05:03.operators and the decision was taken right at the beginning to bring in

:05:04. > :05:05.counsellors so that nobody actually left the site that evening without

:05:06. > :05:08.having spoken to someone. 500 new medical school places

:05:09. > :05:11.will be made available in England next year,

:05:12. > :05:13.as the government attempts to boost the number of home-grown

:05:14. > :05:15.doctors in the NHS. The target is to increase the total

:05:16. > :05:18.number of training places by a quarter by 2020,

:05:19. > :05:20.to help ease staffing pressures. The British Medical Association

:05:21. > :05:22.says it won't address Those who commit cruelty

:05:23. > :05:33.against animals "are getting away with it" due to the "leniency" of UK

:05:34. > :05:36.courts, according to a report. Of the nearly 14,000 people found

:05:37. > :05:39.guilty of animal cruelty in England and Wales from 2005 to 2015,

:05:40. > :05:41.more than 92% avoided prison, the Centre for

:05:42. > :05:43.Crime Prevention says. It has called for the maximum

:05:44. > :05:46.sentence for offenders to be increased from six months

:05:47. > :05:51.to five years. The Government says

:05:52. > :05:55.it is reviewing the matter. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:56. > :06:05.News - more at 10.30am. Lorna says regarding Ann's film on

:06:06. > :06:08.the shocking lack of provision of disabled toilets. Lorna says there

:06:09. > :06:12.is a big problem with people not being able to go to the loo on their

:06:13. > :06:16.own. Doors don't open enough to get a wheelchair in. That's the first

:06:17. > :06:20.thing and then no rails to allow the person to transfer from wheelchair

:06:21. > :06:27.to the toilet seat is another thing. We will talk more about that in the

:06:28. > :06:31.next half an hour. If you are getting in touch with us,

:06:32. > :06:36.you're welcome. We'd like to hear from you. Perhaps you were forced,

:06:37. > :06:40.like some people, to wet yourself effectively because you just

:06:41. > :06:50.couldn't get to the disabled loo for whatever reason.

:06:51. > :06:53.Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:06:54. > :07:11.The focus is on the person who couldn't take part? Wayde van

:07:12. > :07:15.Niekerk won the gold, but many will be wondering what might have been.

:07:16. > :07:19.Makwala has been at the heart of this story since he pulled out of

:07:20. > :07:22.the 200 meter heat and then last night, probably meant to be one of

:07:23. > :07:27.the biggest moments of his career as he was about to race in the final we

:07:28. > :07:33.found that he wasn't allowed to race because he had been affected by this

:07:34. > :07:39.superbug that's been going around at this World Athletic Championships.

:07:40. > :07:43.He said he was OK to race. The IAAF said they wouldn't authorise it,

:07:44. > :07:49.despite him coming to the stadium last night and trying to get in. He

:07:50. > :07:51.was refused entry. The 400 meter final was supposed to be one of the

:07:52. > :07:56.highlights of this championships here at the world athletics

:07:57. > :08:00.competition. As you will see, Wayde van Niekerk did win the race. He

:08:01. > :08:05.crossed the line in first place, but very muted celebrations for him and

:08:06. > :08:11.after the race, he said afterwards that he had sympathy for Makwala. It

:08:12. > :08:16.is quite disappointing. I would love him to have his fair opportunity. He

:08:17. > :08:20.was in great, great form. I believe that he would have done very, very

:08:21. > :08:29.well at this championships and like I said earlier, I have got so much

:08:30. > :08:37.sympathy for him. Does the IAAF have questions to

:08:38. > :08:40.answer then? Well, certainly, many are asking, they weren't clear why

:08:41. > :08:46.they weren't clear with their information. Why they weren't

:08:47. > :08:54.forthright with their information. Much of the information coming out

:08:55. > :08:58.in the build up came from Public Health England and the tower Hotel.

:08:59. > :09:02.This led to a lot of confusion and I spoke to the athletics commentator

:09:03. > :09:11.and she says the IAAF are bound by their rules. When he presented

:09:12. > :09:16.himself, of course, the IAAF medical team had to go their protocol where

:09:17. > :09:20.he was showing symptoms of the Norovirus and to the suggestion of

:09:21. > :09:25.Public Health England because it had been an issue as of Sunday. 30

:09:26. > :09:31.athletes have been quarantined so they were on edge clearly and they

:09:32. > :09:34.didn't want this to spread. Well, the race has been and gone, but you

:09:35. > :09:38.have to wonder, I don't think we've heard the last of this. The medal

:09:39. > :09:43.ceremony for Wayde van Niekerk is tonight. He will be on top of the

:09:44. > :09:48.podium u but you wonder if Isaac Makwala had been allowed to race

:09:49. > :09:53.whether he too would have been on the podium, Victoria. Thank you very

:09:54. > :09:57.much, Jess. This news just in. A 15-year-old boy has been stabbed to

:09:58. > :10:03.death near Croydon in South London. It is the second fatal stabbing of a

:10:04. > :10:08.teenager in London in 24 hours and the 13th this year.

:10:09. > :10:16.A 15-year-old boy, stabbed to death, near Croydon in South London.

:10:17. > :10:19.US President Donald Trump has threatened North Korea with "fire

:10:20. > :10:22.and fury like the world has never seen".

:10:23. > :10:29.North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.

:10:30. > :10:34.US President Donald Trump has threatened North Korea with "fire

:10:35. > :10:39.They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.

:10:40. > :10:43.He has been very threatening, beyond the normal state, and,

:10:44. > :10:47.as I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power

:10:48. > :10:55.the likes of which this world has never seen before.

:10:56. > :10:57.His threat follows the latest intelligence reports which suggest

:10:58. > :11:00.they've produced a nuclear warhead small enough to fit

:11:01. > :11:06.North Korea is now threatening to launch a missile strike close

:11:07. > :11:08.to America's military base on the South Pacific

:11:09. > :11:15.The island is home to 160,000 people and a significant US military base.

:11:16. > :11:35.Here's what locals woke up to in this morning's news report.

:11:36. > :11:47.The developing story today involving the US and North Korea. Guam at the

:11:48. > :11:50.centre of it today. That information confirmed on record by Homeland

:11:51. > :11:54.Security advisor, knowing that homeland officials say that the

:11:55. > :11:58.short time frame the most important thing for the community would be to

:11:59. > :12:04.find concrete structures to shelter in place. We want you to know at

:12:05. > :12:08.this time the threat level on Guam has not changed. Officials saying

:12:09. > :12:14.they don't want to alarm the public at this tile. Local and military

:12:15. > :12:19.officials are said to be monitoring the situation after North Korea

:12:20. > :12:24.threatened a pre-emptive strike. That follows words from Donald Trump

:12:25. > :12:30.saying any threat to the US would be met with fire and fury. Our

:12:31. > :12:36.Government does have a management plan in place to deal with all

:12:37. > :12:37.hazard type situations. Once we have more information, we'll pass it

:12:38. > :12:49.along. This is how North Korean State TV

:12:50. > :12:58.responded. TRANSLATION: The strategic force is

:12:59. > :13:02.carefully examining the operational plan, with medium lalistic rocket in

:13:03. > :13:10.order to contain the US military bases on Guam including the Anderson

:13:11. > :13:15.Air Force Base. Any plans to execute the preventative war devised by the

:13:16. > :13:17.US would be met with an all-out war, wiping out all the strongholds of

:13:18. > :13:21.enemies including the US mainland. But why does North Korea

:13:22. > :13:24.want nuclear weapons? The US and the Soviets

:13:25. > :13:26.divided Korea into two Reunification talks failed

:13:27. > :13:31.and by 1948 there were two The 1950 to 1953 Korean War

:13:32. > :13:39.entrenched the split. The communist North developed

:13:40. > :13:41.into a dictatorship. Almost entirely isolated

:13:42. > :13:44.on the global stage, its leaders say nuclear capabilities

:13:45. > :13:47.are its only deterrent against an outside world

:13:48. > :13:52.seeking to destroy it. It's understood they have

:13:53. > :14:01.an intercontinental ballistic missile or ICBM capable

:14:02. > :14:04.of reaching the US. They've tested nuclear

:14:05. > :14:11.devices five times. Intelligence reports warn

:14:12. > :14:15.the country is also close to or has already achieved,

:14:16. > :14:20."miniaturisation", that's developing a nuclear warhead

:14:21. > :14:31.small enough to fit on a rocket. So how likely is it that the threats

:14:32. > :14:37.will lead to a further escalation of violence.

:14:38. > :14:40.We can speak now to Charlie Wolf - he's a Republican commentator

:14:41. > :14:43.And in Guam is Senator Michael San Nicolas -

:14:44. > :14:45.he's the Democratic chairman of Guam's Legislature

:14:46. > :14:53.How do you respond to what Donald Trump is said and how North Korea

:14:54. > :15:02.reacted? Glow-worm will not get in of the countries and we will make

:15:03. > :15:11.sure we are prepared for whatever comes our way -- Guam. Are you

:15:12. > :15:16.alarmed? Not particularly. We are as ready as we were yesterday and will

:15:17. > :15:24.be tomorrow. You are prepared if North Korea launch a missile at you?

:15:25. > :15:27.Very much so. We have numerous defence assets between here and

:15:28. > :15:31.there and I am comfortable regardless what it is the North

:15:32. > :15:35.Koreans tried to put towards the territory, we will be able to

:15:36. > :15:41.respond. You expecting them to fire a missile? I do not think it would

:15:42. > :15:46.be the wisest use of assets to fire at the smallest target farthest away

:15:47. > :15:51.from the concerns surrounding them. So you are, that the situation? Very

:15:52. > :15:59.much so. What difference does it make when Donald Trump uses language

:16:00. > :16:04.like fire and fury and power? That is related to the North Koreans. I

:16:05. > :16:08.imagine they would be concerned when the president of the most powerful

:16:09. > :16:12.country in the free world uses that language. How do you react to the

:16:13. > :16:18.language Donald Trump has used and the reaction? We are talking about

:16:19. > :16:23.Donald Trump and his language and seem to forget it has been Kim

:16:24. > :16:28.Jong-un who has made crazy threat since he was elected. President

:16:29. > :16:36.heroin was elected in January and he is responding rightly so. --

:16:37. > :16:43.President Trump was elected in January. Whether it is Guam, the

:16:44. > :16:52.United States, it is a precedent we do not want to see. He has put it

:16:53. > :16:59.into terms hopefully Kim Jong-un will understand by saying there are

:17:00. > :17:04.consequences for actions. Hopefully he will be smart and not take any

:17:05. > :17:09.further action with his nuclear programme. Do you think the North

:17:10. > :17:17.Koreans keep calling America's bluff. They keep doing it, but one

:17:18. > :17:21.day they may be surprise. Saddam Hussein thought the Americans would

:17:22. > :17:27.never respond. They thought George Bush would not respond and he

:17:28. > :17:31.responded. Donald Trump seems like a chap who responds and if I were in

:17:32. > :17:35.Kim Jong-un's shoes I would be smart to listen to what the president

:17:36. > :17:42.says. And stop trying to develop nuclear capability? I would stop. If

:17:43. > :17:46.you listen to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. His language is more

:17:47. > :17:51.diplomatic. Even though we would like to bring them into the

:17:52. > :17:55.community of nations. Tell them economically. Generally in the past

:17:56. > :17:59.that is what the nuclear programme has been used for. They would

:18:00. > :18:03.threaten and get more wheat and close down the programme and bring

:18:04. > :18:08.it up several years later. Nobody wants to see the country suffering.

:18:09. > :18:16.If you do a programme like this, you will face consequences. Hopefully

:18:17. > :18:21.China will have seen this audio and know there is some serious stuff

:18:22. > :18:27.going on. Thank you very much. Earlier this year Paralympian

:18:28. > :18:29.athlete Anne Wafula-Strike came on this programme to talk

:18:30. > :18:31.about the moment she was "was She had been forced to urinate

:18:32. > :18:38.on herself on a train after no accessible toilet was provided

:18:39. > :18:43.on her journey. At the time the wheelchair racer

:18:44. > :18:46.decided to go public to raise awareness of the kind of obstacles

:18:47. > :18:48.people with disabilities have She was given promises that it

:18:49. > :18:55.wouldn't happen again but eight months on this programme has learned

:18:56. > :18:58.that it's still happening - and she is still hearing stories

:18:59. > :19:02.from people facing similar problems. We asked her to make a special

:19:03. > :19:05.report for us on the issue. We played you her full film earlier

:19:06. > :19:10.- here's a short extract. But last year I was forced

:19:11. > :19:21.to wet myself on a train. Because the accessible

:19:22. > :19:23.toilet was out of order. It was one of the most humiliating

:19:24. > :19:29.experiences of my life. And it turns out this is not

:19:30. > :19:32.just an issue on trains. People with disabilities

:19:33. > :19:34.are having problems accessing And some are being forced

:19:35. > :19:38.to take extreme action. Two years ago, she chose

:19:39. > :19:44.to have a permanent catheter fitted because there was nowhere

:19:45. > :19:46.for her to go to They create a hole just

:19:47. > :19:52.beneath your belly button to put I just can't believe

:19:53. > :19:56.that you actually opted to have an operation

:19:57. > :20:01.without any medical need. Yeah, no medical need,

:20:02. > :20:04.I wasn't incontinent. My urologist called it socially

:20:05. > :20:11.incontinent, where basically, it meant I was incontinent

:20:12. > :20:13.when I was out because I Because there wasn't

:20:14. > :20:16.the facilities there. Before the operation,

:20:17. > :20:18.Manny needed a hoist There are some toilets

:20:19. > :20:26.that people with severe But campaigners say there

:20:27. > :20:31.aren't enough of them. They are called

:20:32. > :20:33.Changing Places toilets. There are only around

:20:34. > :20:36.a thousand across the UK, and it's estimated quarter

:20:37. > :20:37.of a million people Meanwhile, the state

:20:38. > :20:47.of standard disabled toilets Recent research suggests that

:20:48. > :20:53.as many as 40% of restaurants and 30% of shopping centres don't

:20:54. > :21:03.have disabled loos. The Equality Act states that

:21:04. > :21:05.businesses have that legal duty to make reasonable adjustments

:21:06. > :21:08.to accommodate them. Despite promises from the Rail

:21:09. > :21:16.Minister that no one would go through what I went through,

:21:17. > :21:18.it is still happening. Virgin Trains has

:21:19. > :21:19.since had to apologise I booked a journey to Birmingham

:21:20. > :21:23.six weeks in advance, But I found the toilet was out

:21:24. > :21:29.of order when I got on the train. So I've decided to go

:21:30. > :21:37.to the Rail Minister He tells me they are working

:21:38. > :21:41.on an action plan to I'm hoping that when people see

:21:42. > :21:46.the accessibility action plan, they will see in it a range of ideas

:21:47. > :21:50.that will not just make sure passengers get a better service

:21:51. > :21:54.on the day, but that we can work more tactically and more

:21:55. > :21:59.strategically to make sure that more toilets are in service on trains

:22:00. > :22:01.in the first place. The action plan is due to be rolled

:22:02. > :22:04.out later this summer but it's not clear yet exactly

:22:05. > :22:08.what it will contain. Earlier this year, a government

:22:09. > :22:12.committee recommended changing places toilets should be made

:22:13. > :22:16.compulsory in all large buildings So far, no legislation has been put

:22:17. > :22:24.in place to make that happen. So it seems for the time being,

:22:25. > :22:26.some disabled people Anne Wafula-Strike

:22:27. > :22:35.is with us in studio. Also with us Georgia Moat -

:22:36. > :22:37.who actually had surgery to have a catheter fitted

:22:38. > :22:47.because of a lack Neil Williams, who is with us

:22:48. > :22:51.from the British Beer And Jonathan Fogerty,

:22:52. > :23:00.who is a disability rights lawyer. What angers you most about what you

:23:01. > :23:07.have discovered? Making this film made me realise that there is a big

:23:08. > :23:12.group of people with disabilities that has been neglected. In this day

:23:13. > :23:15.and age and century, to know that young people will actually go to the

:23:16. > :23:24.lengths of having surgery, just because they lack toilets, it should

:23:25. > :23:30.not be happening. It is shocking. It is terrible. You had this particular

:23:31. > :23:35.surgery. It seems an extreme measure. Tell our audience why you

:23:36. > :23:42.did it. I had mine fitted because other than when I was at home, there

:23:43. > :23:46.are limited places I can use the bathroom, because of the amount of

:23:47. > :23:51.equipment required for me to be able to use the toilet. Before you have

:23:52. > :23:55.the operation, how often would you be able to find a bar, pub, where

:23:56. > :24:08.you could use the toilet? There were no bars or pubs I could use it. It

:24:09. > :24:12.was shopping centres, mostly. Niall Williams, how do you plead? There is

:24:13. > :24:20.no doubt there is a lot more we can and should be doing. Why are you not

:24:21. > :24:26.doing it? There is a great increase in the population and we will have

:24:27. > :24:32.more people would access needs. A lot of pubs are installing disabled

:24:33. > :24:36.toilets, but it is not always easy to do that. Some premises, there are

:24:37. > :24:41.issues with planning permission, there are sometimes the oldest

:24:42. > :24:46.buildings in the high street so making modifications is not

:24:47. > :24:50.straightforward. The kind of bars you were going to, old buildings,

:24:51. > :24:56.difficult to get planning permission? It depends where I go,

:24:57. > :25:01.but there are some places that have been newer built and they still have

:25:02. > :25:09.what they say is a disabled toilet, but it is no good for what I

:25:10. > :25:16.require. I think people have been talking a lot, a lot of talk and no

:25:17. > :25:22.action. I think you can do more than what you are doing at the moment. It

:25:23. > :25:27.is not fair that the disabled group is left out. I did not think it is

:25:28. > :25:31.just about planning permission, I think it is just about putting

:25:32. > :25:35.disability on the agenda. It needs to be a priority. I think it is

:25:36. > :25:42.really important because some of the issues in the film is about as good

:25:43. > :25:47.management and training. We saw the terrible example of the man on the

:25:48. > :25:51.train. We want all pubs and we have urged them to do it through guidance

:25:52. > :25:58.to have a disability Champion who thinks through issues on every

:25:59. > :26:03.premises. How many members? We represent 20,000 pubs. We urge

:26:04. > :26:08.members through our own channels and through to their pubs to do as much

:26:09. > :26:13.as they can. How many members have disability champions? We do not know

:26:14. > :26:19.the statistics. We need to gather data. You do not know if there are

:26:20. > :26:24.two, or 10,000? We don't know the figures. That is illustrative of how

:26:25. > :26:29.little you care. I think we do care and that is why we have produced

:26:30. > :26:37.guidance. We are on the second edition of this guide and we urge

:26:38. > :26:41.people to think through the issues and make sure there is proper

:26:42. > :26:48.information available. And access statement is really important. Visit

:26:49. > :26:52.England, Visit Scotland have done work and you can fill it in online

:26:53. > :26:56.so people can see what is available in the pub before they visit because

:26:57. > :27:02.part of the issue is making sure there is enough information before

:27:03. > :27:07.they go. I have heard this so many times. We need is now strong

:27:08. > :27:15.measures to be put in place. People who do not far -- do not follow the

:27:16. > :27:23.legislation should have action taken against them. The government needs

:27:24. > :27:27.to crack down on this. It is all right saying that there will be

:27:28. > :27:32.information available to see what is available before you go, but not a

:27:33. > :27:37.lot of people have two plan their journeys as hard as we do for a

:27:38. > :27:42.simple things like being able to go to the bathroom. Fair point. It is.

:27:43. > :27:46.Everything helps and we should do as much as we can to keep things

:27:47. > :27:53.improving. I think we have made progress but there is no doubt there

:27:54. > :27:56.is more we can do. Are you ashamed about that? We are making progress

:27:57. > :28:03.and should continue to do that. When things go wrong it is terrible and

:28:04. > :28:06.we saw that in the film but through voluntary action and education,

:28:07. > :28:09.awareness, training, good management, we can make

:28:10. > :28:18.improvements, as well as investment. Maybe the fact it is voluntary is

:28:19. > :28:22.the problem. It is not voluntary under the equality act, premises

:28:23. > :28:26.have to do as much as they can without unreasonable costs, that is

:28:27. > :28:30.how the legislation is framed, and we need to make sure we do as much

:28:31. > :28:35.as we can. Jonathan you have listened to what has been said on

:28:36. > :28:40.behalf of the British beer and Pub association. Be clear for the

:28:41. > :28:48.audience, what is illegal when it comes to the equality act? Good

:28:49. > :28:53.morning. Very interesting and some very interesting exchanges of views

:28:54. > :28:59.and comments. Can I take a slight step back and reflect on perhaps

:29:00. > :29:04.where we have come? There have been comments made about progress made.

:29:05. > :29:08.If I look back over the time I have been a wheelchair user, over 30

:29:09. > :29:15.years, the first time I tried to travel from Manchester to London on

:29:16. > :29:20.the train, going from Piccadilly to Euston, I could not access the

:29:21. > :29:27.carriage, I had to sit with post bags in the guard's van, so in terms

:29:28. > :29:32.of casting disability as a right, we have made progress over the past 30

:29:33. > :29:38.years. The disability discrimination act and equality act have helped.

:29:39. > :29:40.Are we at a point where everything is satisfactory? We are certainly

:29:41. > :29:55.not and we have a long way to go and Anne's experience shows we

:29:56. > :30:01.have a long way to go. One thing that has come up this morning, this

:30:02. > :30:07.is about the enforceability, enforcement organisation and

:30:08. > :30:12.measures in place to back-up the legislation and that is the equality

:30:13. > :30:18.act. If we look at what the equality act says, at no point in the

:30:19. > :30:26.equality act does it explicitly said that service providers have to

:30:27. > :30:33.provide a wheelchair access a ball toilet. It says in their service

:30:34. > :30:39.providers have to make reasonable adjustment where a feature places a

:30:40. > :30:43.disabled person at a disadvantage all weather service provider is

:30:44. > :30:46.providing a facility to members of the public that reasonable

:30:47. > :30:50.adjustment should be made so that is made available to somebody with an

:30:51. > :30:57.impairment. What you think of the wording? One of the weaknesses of

:30:58. > :31:01.the legislation is its interpretation, that it is left to

:31:02. > :31:05.the courts to determine and there are a number of factors that will be

:31:06. > :31:11.taken into account when considering whether or not a service provider

:31:12. > :31:15.has made a reasonable adjustment. One might be the financial cost of

:31:16. > :31:21.that reasonable adjustment, was it reasonably practical to make it?

:31:22. > :31:27.Inevitably, you tend to find the largest service providers, high

:31:28. > :31:31.street shops, for example, are able to make those reasonable adjustments

:31:32. > :31:35.and people expect them, so in this case providing a wheelchair

:31:36. > :31:40.accessible toilet facility, but the smaller shops are unable to do so,

:31:41. > :31:45.all would claim they are unable, because of financial restraints.

:31:46. > :31:53.It's very difficult to say without people taking cases themselves,

:31:54. > :31:58.where they deem they have been discriminated against on the grounds

:31:59. > :32:02.of their disability because the enforcement measures I'm afraid are

:32:03. > :32:05.still with that individual, discrimination happens to that

:32:06. > :32:09.individual. Very interesting. Let me read you these messages from people

:32:10. > :32:13.watching. Yvonne says, "I am so pleased this subject is being

:32:14. > :32:18.highlighted. This is a problem for people with crones. It is so

:32:19. > :32:24.important and yet receives very little publicity." Jane says, "Our

:32:25. > :32:29.son is 16. He is severely disabled and we have changed him hundreds of

:32:30. > :32:33.times on toilet floors, holding him on baby changers and using the back

:32:34. > :32:37.of his van in the car park. Now he is an adult and he's on adult

:32:38. > :32:42.floors. Baby changers are not an option for him anymore. We try to

:32:43. > :32:51.time our journey so he does not need changing while we are out. Fully

:32:52. > :32:56.inclusive disabled toilets are more rather than a useful MP." Thank you

:32:57. > :33:02.for your time and your expertise. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

:33:03. > :33:11.A number of soldiers have been hit by a car, a vehicle in the suburb of

:33:12. > :33:15.Paris. Jonny Dymond Is at the scene. What else can you tell us? Around

:33:16. > :33:20.two-and-a-half, three hours, a vehicle went into a group of

:33:21. > :33:23.soldiers, they were part of Operation Sentinell a counter terror

:33:24. > :33:26.operation that's been in place for a couple of years. At least two

:33:27. > :33:33.soldiers have been seriously injured. I'm in the neighbourhood.

:33:34. > :33:40.It is a quiet and prosperous neighbourhood. The Paris prosecutors

:33:41. > :33:45.office have opened a counter terror probe into what happened here. It

:33:46. > :33:50.has been sealed off. A large media presence and a fair number of

:33:51. > :33:54.residents standing around wondering what has happened here. The vehicle

:33:55. > :34:00.and the perpetrator, the driver of the vehicle, are being searched for

:34:01. > :34:05.pretty vigorously in what is a large police operation, but at the moment,

:34:06. > :34:10.it's unclear as to what the motive was and clit whether or not this was

:34:11. > :34:16.part of any larger operation. The suburb itself is to the north-west

:34:17. > :34:20.of the centre of Paris, 15 minutes drive from the arc detry oomph and

:34:21. > :34:24.it is an investigation into what happened and also a manhunt into

:34:25. > :34:37.finding the person who carried it out. Thank you. Jonny Dymond in that

:34:38. > :34:39.west Paris suburb where the attack place.

:34:40. > :34:44.With the news, here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom.

:34:45. > :34:47.North Korea says it is considering launching a ballistic missile strike

:34:48. > :34:49.close to the American military base of Guam in the western Pacific.

:34:50. > :34:52.The threat comes after reports that Pyongyang has produced a nuclear

:34:53. > :34:54.warhead small enough to fit on to its ballistic missiles.

:34:55. > :34:56.President Trump has said that further threats

:34:57. > :34:59.from the North Koreans will be met with fire, fury and power.

:35:00. > :35:03.This programme has learned that the Fire Service has drafted

:35:04. > :35:05.in 60 counsellors to help treat traumatised firefighters

:35:06. > :35:09.The figure is more than ten times the number who formally

:35:10. > :35:13.500 new medical school places will be made available in England

:35:14. > :35:15.next year as the Government attempts to boost the number of home-grown

:35:16. > :35:22.The target is to increase the total number of training places

:35:23. > :35:25.by a quarter by 2020 to help ease the staffing pressures.

:35:26. > :35:27.The British Medical Association says it won't address

:35:28. > :35:47.That's a summary of the news. Join me for newsroom live from 11am.

:35:48. > :35:53.Wayde van Niekerk took gold in the 400m at the World Athletics

:35:54. > :35:56.The South African's win was overshadowed by the IAAF's

:35:57. > :35:58.decision to not let Botswana's Isaac Makwala run,

:35:59. > :36:01.One man who definitely made his presence felt at these

:36:02. > :36:08.He came oh so close to adding to Britain's medal tally

:36:09. > :36:13.but just like Laura Muir the evening before

:36:14. > :36:17.he just missed out on the medals, finishing an agonising

:36:18. > :36:20.And can he do the double double yet again?

:36:21. > :36:25.Following his breathtaking 10,000 metres win, Britain's only medal

:36:26. > :36:28.winner of the games so far, Mo Farah, is back on the track.

:36:29. > :36:31.He beins his campaign for the 5,000 metres at just after 8

:36:32. > :36:35.And the women's rugby World Cup gets under way this afternoon,

:36:36. > :36:38.with England looking to defend the title they won back in 2014.

:36:39. > :36:40.All the competing teams are in action on day one

:36:41. > :36:42.of the tournament in Dublin, with England taking on Spain,

:36:43. > :36:46.Wales in action against New Zealand, and Ireland taking on Australia.

:36:47. > :36:51.Those are your headlines for now. I will see you soon, Victoria.

:36:52. > :36:55.Representatives of a British model allegedly kidnapped in Milan have

:36:56. > :37:05.dismissed as "evil" doubts and conspiracy theories

:37:06. > :37:07.about the ordeal, saying it was real and it was terrifying.

:37:08. > :37:10.Italian police said Chloe Ayling was snatched last month by a group

:37:11. > :37:14.She's believed to have been drugged and transported in a bag

:37:15. > :37:17.to an isolated village near Turin, where she was held for six days

:37:18. > :37:19.as her captors tried to auction her online.

:37:20. > :37:22.But as more details emerged, including that she went shopping

:37:23. > :37:25.for shoes and groceries with her captor, had

:37:26. > :37:32.breakfast with him before he handed her in to the Italian

:37:33. > :37:36.consulate, questions have begun to be asked about the story.

:37:37. > :37:38.Earlier I spoke to two models from the same

:37:39. > :37:42.Sophia Blake worked with her before and says that after what's

:37:43. > :37:44.happened she won't work with the agency again.

:37:45. > :37:47.Holly Gibbons says she's been working for a decade but says she's

:37:48. > :37:49.now questioning whether to leave the industry.

:37:50. > :37:58.Holly, you have spent a decade in this industry. In what ways has it

:37:59. > :38:05.changed would you say? I think when I first started, everything was all

:38:06. > :38:12.magazines. Everything was, we didn't have social media either. So, I

:38:13. > :38:16.think we weren't, we had a more professional relationship with

:38:17. > :38:22.photographers, with companies that we were working with and now people

:38:23. > :38:28.can get into contact with us through our social media and they can see

:38:29. > :38:34.more about us which isn't always a good thing. So it has changed a lot

:38:35. > :38:40.and everything is very much online. Websites and jobs like that rather

:38:41. > :38:47.than a magazine or, you know, bigger jobs as well. We have less people on

:38:48. > :38:54.a job. Do you think it has become less safe as a result of those

:38:55. > :39:08.changes? It's hard to say. I think that maybe the younger girls are a

:39:09. > :39:13.little less, I think they're more naive because they perhaps are

:39:14. > :39:18.trusting more people. When they first hear from somebody they may

:39:19. > :39:23.not do the checks that they need to, where I think, as you get older,

:39:24. > :39:25.they don't get in touch with you as much. Maybe because you have more

:39:26. > :39:31.experience in the industry. They think that you're not going to fall

:39:32. > :39:36.for it as or fall for, you know, things that maybe we shouldn't do.

:39:37. > :39:41.Which would be what? What would be something that you would say we

:39:42. > :39:46.shouldn't do in our industry? When I was younger I maybe was so excited

:39:47. > :39:51.by it all, that I said yes to everything and I may not have put

:39:52. > :39:56.into process check-ups on who I was working with so much. So I would

:39:57. > :40:00.just say yes and I would go along to jobs and perhaps they were

:40:01. > :40:06.unprofessional or they would push me to do levels beyond what I should

:40:07. > :40:13.have done. But now, I think only people that I've worked with, I look

:40:14. > :40:22.for references, I ask other models how was the job? What to expect from

:40:23. > :40:27.the job. So, it's age changes and how the industry has changed as

:40:28. > :40:31.well. Sure. Maybe those sort of people who haven't got the good

:40:32. > :40:35.intentions get in touch with younger girls.

:40:36. > :40:40.Sophia, has this ever happened to you, you are slightly younger? You

:40:41. > :40:43.have had less time in the glakor modelling industry. Have you ever

:40:44. > :40:50.felt in a position where you felt vulnerable? I think there is a lot

:40:51. > :40:55.of like because I am younger, they do seem to like prey on you, but I'm

:40:56. > :41:01.quite aware of it so I just kind of like as soon as alarm bells ring I

:41:02. > :41:06.just like say no to the job or if it's on a shoot,le' just leave. Have

:41:07. > :41:10.you done that? You've left a shoot because you felt uncomfortable?

:41:11. > :41:17.Once, but to be honest, most of the time I don't really feel that way.

:41:18. > :41:22.Right. Yeah. How, I mean, it's clearly very competitive. Do you

:41:23. > :41:28.think that there are some girls who take risks or potentially take risks

:41:29. > :41:33.because they want to get on so much? I think there probably are girls

:41:34. > :41:37.like that out there. I think in the freelance industry we are all quite

:41:38. > :41:40.like connected and we speak to each other a lot and if someone has a

:41:41. > :41:43.problem generally you can talk to another model about it. And you've

:41:44. > :41:48.worked with Chloe Ayling in the past. What was she like to work

:41:49. > :41:54.with? She was, yeah, she was fine. She was just like a normal person.

:41:55. > :42:00.She just, she was quite qi the and quite reserved. Yeah. You say you're

:42:01. > :42:05.freelance. When you are signed to an agency, how are they supposed to

:42:06. > :42:09.look after you? Well, you'd think that you would be safer going with

:42:10. > :42:14.an agency because like they're obviously taking their cut and

:42:15. > :42:19.that's for the safety like, you'd expect them to have done the checks

:42:20. > :42:25.before giving you the job and stuff. And does that always happen in your

:42:26. > :42:29.experience? I've never had a bad experience, but obviously the Chloe

:42:30. > :42:34.things makes it seem like maybe the right checks aren't being done.

:42:35. > :42:38.And what's your view on that Holly, when it comes to agencies, what sort

:42:39. > :42:42.of checks should they be making on behalf of their clients, people like

:42:43. > :42:50.yourselves? So, I would rely on, I am signed with an agency and I would

:42:51. > :42:53.rely on them to do website checks, background checks, get references

:42:54. > :43:00.from other girls who have worked with them. And also exactly what

:43:01. > :43:07.they're expecting us to do in the job when we arrive, what times,

:43:08. > :43:12.everything. However, I still want, even more information. So I'll still

:43:13. > :43:16.do my own checks, get in touch with the girls and say, "Have you done

:43:17. > :43:20.this job before? What do I expect from it?" So you can't put

:43:21. > :43:25.everything on your agent. You need to do your own checks as well. But,

:43:26. > :43:32.if I get a job through the agent then I would hope, and I would

:43:33. > :43:37.expect it to be, safe and the measurements in place before I go to

:43:38. > :43:44.the job. Sure. And finally what percentage commission would an agent

:43:45. > :43:50.take from your work? They take 20%. Sophia, what's your view about the

:43:51. > :43:55.kind of discussion regarding this story of Chloe Ayling and what's

:43:56. > :43:59.alleged to have happened to her? Some people say it doesn't add up

:44:00. > :44:03.somehow? Yeah. I think, a lot of people have been quite like,

:44:04. > :44:07.everyone thinks the story is a bit fishy and there's something weird

:44:08. > :44:12.going on. I think, I understand why they say that because it is such an

:44:13. > :44:20.elaborate story, but I don't know. What about you, Holly? I think the

:44:21. > :44:24.problem is that she has done interviews and she is dressed this a

:44:25. > :44:29.certain way that people are very, very jmental. She has a smile on her

:44:30. > :44:33.face. And that's hard to believe that somebody has been through

:44:34. > :44:39.something very, very traumatic and than looks a certain way, maybe

:44:40. > :44:44.happy and maybe not sad or traumatised so people are finding it

:44:45. > :44:48.very difficult to believe and then the media has gone through,

:44:49. > :44:54.unfortunately her Instagram or whatever social media and picked out

:44:55. > :45:00.images of her doing modelling jobs, doing glamour which people aren't

:45:01. > :45:05.very sympathetic towards, but that is our job and it doesn't

:45:06. > :45:08.necessarily mean that she's lying or that it's a made up story or

:45:09. > :45:12.elaborated. Thank you both. Thank you very much, both of you. Thank

:45:13. > :45:14.you for coming on the programme. Thank you.

:45:15. > :45:17.It's ten years to the day since the credit crunch hit the UK

:45:18. > :45:19.leading to the global financial crisis that many of us

:45:20. > :45:35.The credit crunch was caused by banks being too nervous to lend

:45:36. > :45:42.money to us or each other. The date when this started, 9th of August,

:45:43. > :45:46.2007, that is when a major French bank told investors they would not

:45:47. > :45:52.be able to withdraw money from two of its funds. This triggered a sharp

:45:53. > :45:59.rise in the cost of credit, causing a credit crunch. The problem started

:46:00. > :46:04.before 2007, in the USA. Back then, interest rates were low and cheap

:46:05. > :46:08.loans available. The banks lend money and took on debt with no

:46:09. > :46:12.worries, which meant they lend to just about everyone, including

:46:13. > :46:21.people with weak credit ratings, known as the sub-prime market, that

:46:22. > :46:31.is people with poor credit history or levelling come. They did not

:46:32. > :46:36.worry about repayments because the right to collect those debts were

:46:37. > :46:41.sold on again and again. Analysts saw these as low risk. Then came a

:46:42. > :46:47.big increase in the cost of mortgage payments and people started to

:46:48. > :46:51.default. It came as a shock to financial institutions. The result

:46:52. > :46:55.was billions in losses written off. It is why banks like Northern Rock

:46:56. > :46:59.and Newman brothers in America disappeared and others like Royal

:47:00. > :47:03.Bank of Scotland hack to be taken over by the government to stay

:47:04. > :47:14.afloat. Other banks got nervous about lending to anyone and

:47:15. > :47:16.everyone. They were not be repaid and St Lomans became more expensive

:47:17. > :47:21.and they demanded greater deposits. It caused the global financial

:47:22. > :47:25.system to come to a standstill and stock markets, investment value and

:47:26. > :47:33.confidence plummeted and the effects are still felt today. And so how

:47:34. > :47:39.have people who were affected recovered?

:47:40. > :47:43.She lost her family home and her holiday home

:47:44. > :47:45.when the credit crunch hit, her marriage collapsed soon after.

:47:46. > :47:47.Michael Foote was working on the trading floor

:47:48. > :47:50.for a stockbrokers in the city - but was fired when the crunch hit.

:47:51. > :47:53.And in Maidstone is Paul, who built up debt of around

:47:54. > :47:56.?60,000 on credit cards - at one point he had 20

:47:57. > :47:59.He's asked us to only use his first name.

:48:00. > :48:05.Welcome. Dude, you were doing well, you and your husband a holiday home

:48:06. > :48:14.in Florida. What happened? It because America went down before we

:48:15. > :48:19.did. Looking back, we had bought at the wrong time. Their economy went

:48:20. > :48:24.and it plummeted. We thought we would rented out to Americans to

:48:25. > :48:29.cover the money and on our jobs cover what we have to pay here and

:48:30. > :48:34.ride it out but unfortunately the American family we rented to stop

:48:35. > :48:38.paying rent after being given that a month or two and so we had to get

:48:39. > :48:42.them evicted and that took several months. Then the house over there

:48:43. > :48:46.was foreclosed and it was a knock-on effect here because of what was

:48:47. > :48:54.happening and the cost of living going up. We were not earning quite

:48:55. > :48:57.as much. The balance tipped and we lost our home over here because we

:48:58. > :49:03.had credit cards we used to furnish the home over there to get it going.

:49:04. > :49:08.You had used the house here to buy the place in Florida? We got an

:49:09. > :49:14.extra secured loan on it so we looked at trying to sell it to clear

:49:15. > :49:19.debt but because of house prices and what happened to the market here,

:49:20. > :49:26.there was not enough in it to cover what we owed. Goodness. Michael, you

:49:27. > :49:31.had just started this new job and you were called in and you thought

:49:32. > :49:35.you were going to get a pay rise. Such a shocking moment because I was

:49:36. > :49:40.walking up the stairs, thinking I have done my first trade, earned

:49:41. > :49:44.money for the company. Walked upstairs and they said, we are

:49:45. > :49:50.sorry, we will have to let you go, pack your stuff and leave. We had

:49:51. > :49:54.just signed a new rental contract in the house and three in the house and

:49:55. > :49:59.two lost their jobs that we can be packed up everything out of the

:50:00. > :50:04.house and moved home to the parents. That is the reason you were fired,

:50:05. > :50:09.because he were last in. Was it that policy? That is how I feel. Rather

:50:10. > :50:17.than taking it more personally? Fair enough. Paul, I spoke to you on

:50:18. > :50:22.radio 59 years ago when the recession started to bite and you

:50:23. > :50:28.were surviving on credit. Tell how you manage to do that, juggling

:50:29. > :50:34.cards. You think it would be difficult but it was not. I started

:50:35. > :50:40.on the credit cards a long time ago and always thought there could be a

:50:41. > :50:45.crash. I was talking of a property crash, but never saw the big crash

:50:46. > :50:50.coming. By the time it came I amassed quite a few credit cards

:50:51. > :50:54.because during the boom years everybody was throwing credit cards

:50:55. > :50:58.at me and offers and I kept them ticking over by doing balance

:50:59. > :51:03.transfers and occasionally spending on the cards. When the crash came I

:51:04. > :51:08.had a significant amount on the cards but... I have some here.

:51:09. > :51:14.During the crash a lot of companies withdrew cards and cut credit

:51:15. > :51:22.limits. I have a fair amount. That is a lot of credit cards. About 25.

:51:23. > :51:34.I think one is a debit card. There is about 120,000 of credit on there.

:51:35. > :51:40.That roughly gives me 50,000 and ?60,000 worth of balance transfers.

:51:41. > :51:44.When the crash came and I had the money amassed, I started

:51:45. > :51:49.transferring money, being creative, and when the credit cards ran out I

:51:50. > :51:53.turned to my mum and says, why don't you open a credit card and I

:51:54. > :51:57.transferred the money to her cards and transferred them back and it

:51:58. > :52:05.kept going and going until the crash sorted disappeared. Things picked up

:52:06. > :52:11.slightly. Have you paid off the debt? I have not paid it off. I

:52:12. > :52:15.transferred it into the mortgage. One of those flexible mortgages

:52:16. > :52:20.where you can pay as much as you like into the mortgage and now I am

:52:21. > :52:27.knuckling down and paying it off. It is going quite well. Your marriage

:52:28. > :52:33.ended as a direct result presumably of the stresses you went through?

:52:34. > :52:40.There were other things in a relationship but it was a big

:52:41. > :52:45.contributor, the stress. The ripple effect on some families were

:52:46. > :52:49.massive. Do you feel you are still paying the price? Do you think you

:52:50. > :52:54.have recovered and it seems a lifetime ago? I would say I have

:52:55. > :52:57.recovered. I have launched a new business and would not have done

:52:58. > :53:05.that without the financial crisis. It was hard in the short-term after

:53:06. > :53:10.it, sort of I had plans of being in the City for years and suddenly you

:53:11. > :53:14.have to rethink everything. Critics ask why no senior banker was

:53:15. > :53:22.prosecuted. Do you wonder about that? I don't, personally. What

:53:23. > :53:27.about you? No, it is just decisions. We all make decisions in life. I am

:53:28. > :53:33.in a better place now. I have just finished my final draft of a book

:53:34. > :53:40.that is out in November on a different story. Paul, what about

:53:41. > :53:43.you? People ask why gnome one was prosecuted for the decisions made in

:53:44. > :53:50.the financial institutions across the world. Do you think they are

:53:51. > :53:54.responsible? I think the whole system is responsible and

:53:55. > :53:58.politicians are responsible for the relaxed way they let people get away

:53:59. > :54:03.with this, bankers, especially Gordon Brown. But there are so many

:54:04. > :54:06.people involved. It is like when the government makes the wrong decision,

:54:07. > :54:13.who do you shoot? The Prime Minister or those who made the decision is

:54:14. > :54:18.beneath them. It is institutional. It is not maybe an individual

:54:19. > :54:22.responsible. It is everybody jumping on the bandwagon doing the same

:54:23. > :54:24.thing. Thank you for coming on. All the best.

:54:25. > :54:26.The World Athletics Championships have seen stories of hope, despair,

:54:27. > :54:28.rivalry and triumph - and in some cases

:54:29. > :54:36.David Omoregie is a 110 metre hurdler who made his senior debut

:54:37. > :54:41.six years after the deaths of his father and sister.

:54:42. > :54:43.The 21-year-old is one of Great Britain's brightest young

:54:44. > :54:56.Hello. It is nice to see you. Thank you for having the arm. Make

:54:57. > :55:01.yourself at home. It was your goal to take part in the championships.

:55:02. > :55:06.What was it like in the stadium? Amazing. I have competed at the

:55:07. > :55:10.Olympic Stadium in the annual Diamond League event and it has been

:55:11. > :55:16.a great experience. This is the worlds. The World Championships,

:55:17. > :55:19.being a home championships, I wanted to make the team and I was excited

:55:20. > :55:23.to get out there and had the crowd screaming for you on the line was

:55:24. > :55:27.amazing and a enjoyed the experience. You did not make the

:55:28. > :55:35.semifinals. How do you assess your performance? I am still young, I am

:55:36. > :55:39.always learning. It is my first senior championships, but it was

:55:40. > :55:44.disappointing. Hurdles is unpredictable. If you hit one

:55:45. > :55:51.hurdle, it can jeopardise your race and unfortunately that happened to

:55:52. > :55:56.me, I hit too many and fell back. I definitely learned a lot from this

:55:57. > :56:00.experience and I hope in two years, next time, I will not make the same

:56:01. > :56:04.mistakes and hopefully challenge to make the final and maybe challenge

:56:05. > :56:13.for medals. You learn from mistakes, you keep going. You studied for your

:56:14. > :56:16.GCSEs when your sister was killed by a drunk driver in Kent and a month

:56:17. > :56:27.later your father died, he had cancer. What impact does it have on

:56:28. > :56:31.a young man and your outlook? Of course, for anyone going through

:56:32. > :56:38.that adversity it is difficult, but in my situation it was a very

:56:39. > :56:44.difficult period. My dad, he was terminally ill with cancer. We were

:56:45. > :56:48.preparing for that and then a month later, a month before that, to find

:56:49. > :56:54.out my sister died in a car crash was out of the blue and that sent my

:56:55. > :57:01.dad in a bit of the spiral and he passed away after that. It is

:57:02. > :57:08.difficult. At the same time, for me, it has given me a lot of dry. My dad

:57:09. > :57:13.and sister were both hard-working, both doctors, both very intelligent

:57:14. > :57:17.people. From my family, we have always got this mentality that

:57:18. > :57:22.whatever you do you work hard and try to achieve what you can do and

:57:23. > :57:30.that is what I carried on. At the time, I was not doing well in

:57:31. > :57:37.academics and my athletics but it gave me drive to keep on working for

:57:38. > :57:45.them. Slowly, over time, things began to click in athletics and my

:57:46. > :57:52.academics. And here I am. Your dad passed on those values of that work

:57:53. > :57:57.ethic? Definitely. I think my dad worked incredibly hard for all of

:57:58. > :58:08.us. We are a big family of seven in total. My dad worked to put us into

:58:09. > :58:17.good schools and Justin we do, the achieving the very best. That is my

:58:18. > :58:23.core value now in what I do. Whatever it is in my athletics, no

:58:24. > :58:27.matter what will set me back, I know I can work hard and get to where I

:58:28. > :58:36.want. Briefly, finally, your ultimate goal? I am 21 so hopefully

:58:37. > :58:41.I want to be a medal contender in the 2020 Olympics. Just to be

:58:42. > :58:42.competitive and we have a long way to go.