06/09/2017

:00:00. > :00:09.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9am, I'm Chloe Tilley.

:00:10. > :00:23.The Government is looking at ways to reduce the number of low skilled EU

:00:24. > :00:28.migrants after Brexit. According to a leaked Home Office leaked

:00:29. > :00:33.document. We want companies to do more to

:00:34. > :00:38.improve skills of those who leave our colleges. We are not closing the

:00:39. > :00:44.door on all future immigration, but it has to be managed properly.

:00:45. > :00:50.Bosses faced being told they could be taxed if they keep taking on

:00:51. > :00:53.unskilled EU migrants and should put British workers first.

:00:54. > :00:56.As thousands of nurses prepare to lobby Parliament over their pay,

:00:57. > :01:01.some of them tell us why they can't afford to live on what they get.

:01:02. > :01:11.I'm Michael. I'm a nurse. I'm ?400 a month worse off under the pay cap.

:01:12. > :01:24.We report on a scheme in Glasgow to help refugees who previously worked

:01:25. > :01:26.as doctors join the NHS. Lots of colleagues who are doctors living

:01:27. > :01:34.here and they are working other jobs. Some of them are even taxi

:01:35. > :01:39.drivers which has let down hope for a lot of people and when you hear

:01:40. > :01:47.about this, it has given us a lot of hope.

:01:48. > :01:50.Hello. Welcome to the programme.

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:02:17. > :02:21.A leaked Home Office document has set out plans for how

:02:22. > :02:25.the UK immigration system could work after Brexit.

:02:26. > :02:27.The paper, which has been published by the Guardian newspaper,

:02:28. > :02:30.considers how the Government could dramatically reduce the number

:02:31. > :02:35.It also proposes time limits on how long EU nationals

:02:36. > :02:40.The BBC understands the document - which was produced last month -

:02:41. > :02:48.Our Political Guru Norman Smith is in Westminster this morning.

:02:49. > :02:54.Norman, tell us more about what's in the leaked document? Well, there are

:02:55. > :03:01.two sort of big thoughts in this document. One is the desire for a

:03:02. > :03:06.concerted climb-down on unskilled EU migration into the UK and the second

:03:07. > :03:11.is to put British workers first. To give them priority. Now, how would

:03:12. > :03:15.this work out? Well the Government is suggesting you could say to

:03:16. > :03:19.unskilled EU workers coming to Britain, you can only stay for two

:03:20. > :03:22.years, you would have to get a certain salary level. You couldn't

:03:23. > :03:26.come here and look for a job, you would have to have a job to come to

:03:27. > :03:31.and the Government is also thinking about just imposing a blanket cap on

:03:32. > :03:35.the number of unskilled workers from the EU who can come here. So they

:03:36. > :03:40.would say well, you can have X thousands, but no more than that. As

:03:41. > :03:45.for business, they will be under an obligation to try and recruit local

:03:46. > :03:51.British workers first and they will have to pass a test to show that

:03:52. > :03:56.they have gone out and tried to recruit British workers and if then

:03:57. > :04:02.they still want to recruit people from the EU, they could face a

:04:03. > :04:08.charge, a tax, and that money would go to train up British workers. So,

:04:09. > :04:13.it's a very, very big change from what the current sort of freedom of

:04:14. > :04:17.movement regime and while it's not definite Government policy, I think,

:04:18. > :04:22.we do get a clear insight into the strategy the Government is hoping to

:04:23. > :04:26.unveil once we finally get the immigration plans unveiled in the

:04:27. > :04:31.autumn. How is it being received, Norman? Well, business, I think, is

:04:32. > :04:36.already deeply alarmed and the reason for that is they say look,

:04:37. > :04:40.there simply aren't the indigenous British workers out there to take up

:04:41. > :04:43.all the unskilled jobs because unemployment is down at around 4.5%.

:04:44. > :04:49.That's nearly full employment. So they say look, we have got to go out

:04:50. > :04:52.to Europe to bring in those unskilled workers otherwise we can't

:04:53. > :04:58.meet customer demand and we can't grow our businesses. The response

:04:59. > :05:00.from ministers has been to say look, immigration was at the heart of the

:05:01. > :05:04.referendum campaign. There is no getting away from it and this

:05:05. > :05:08.morning the Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon was saying he would

:05:09. > :05:12.make no apology for bearing down on immigration. Let's be clear, freedom

:05:13. > :05:16.of movement has to end. It has to end because legally we're living the

:05:17. > :05:19.European Union, that's what people voted for last year and freedom of

:05:20. > :05:24.movement is part of membership. So that has to finish. We don't want to

:05:25. > :05:27.shut the down on I will gration, but equally the public want to see

:05:28. > :05:31.immigration continue to come down. It's falling at the moment. We've

:05:32. > :05:35.always said we want to get it manageable, down from hundreds of

:05:36. > :05:39.thousands a year, down to tens of thousands a year to reduce the

:05:40. > :05:44.pressure on public services. So we will set out the proposals as to who

:05:45. > :05:48.can come here from the rest of the European Union, how long they can

:05:49. > :05:53.work here and what their varied will be and it will be set out by the

:05:54. > :05:58.Home Secretary later this year. Chloe this is going to provoke a

:05:59. > :06:00.huge row, debate, call it what you will over the road in Westminster

:06:01. > :06:06.including in the Conservative Party. When you talk to different ministers

:06:07. > :06:09.they say, "Well, I don't want any reduction in EU migrants in my

:06:10. > :06:14.particular field." No one really wants to see fewer NHS workers from

:06:15. > :06:19.the EU or fewer care workers. No one really wants to see fewer farm

:06:20. > :06:22.workers coming to work in fruit farms. No one wants to see fewer

:06:23. > :06:26.construction workers. The difficulty is working out who are the unskilled

:06:27. > :06:29.EU workers that the Government now wants to keep out. Norman, thank you

:06:30. > :06:31.very much. Annita is in the BBC

:06:32. > :06:33.Newsroom with a summary Islands in the Caribbean

:06:34. > :06:41.are making last-minute preparations for Hurricane Irma,

:06:42. > :06:43.one of the most powerful Atlantic storms on record

:06:44. > :06:45.with officials warning of its "potentially

:06:46. > :06:46.catastrophic" effects. It's already lashing the British

:06:47. > :06:48.territory of Anguilla where residents say the powerful

:06:49. > :06:51.waves and high winds have been Latest reports say the eye

:06:52. > :06:55.of the hurricane is passing over Our correspondent

:06:56. > :07:02.Sarah Corker reports. This is the eye of

:07:03. > :07:05.the storm from space. Dramatic images from Nasa

:07:06. > :07:08.capture the sheer scale The category five storm

:07:09. > :07:13.is on a collision course Popular holiday destinations

:07:14. > :07:19.like Antigua and Saint Martin are preparing for life-threatening

:07:20. > :07:21.winds and torrential rains. Storm surges of up to 12-feet

:07:22. > :07:24.are forecast and overnight some Irma's path may change but at

:07:25. > :07:37.the moment it looks set to head towards the British Virgin Islands,

:07:38. > :07:48.Puerto Rico, Cuba and by People are securing their homes and

:07:49. > :07:52.stocking up on essentials. The dough minutical republic the

:07:53. > :07:57.rains have already arrived. The tourist like, like its neighbour,

:07:58. > :08:02.Haiti issued hurricane warnings. And in Florida, a state of emergency has

:08:03. > :08:07.been declared. The torm is massive and the storm surge will go for

:08:08. > :08:11.miles and miles. Right now Irma is travelling at 15mph and the track

:08:12. > :08:16.has it forecasted to move just south of the Florida quays on a westerly

:08:17. > :08:23.path with a slight north-west turn. It is important that all Floridans

:08:24. > :08:32.keep an eye on this storm. Do not sit and wait to prepare, get

:08:33. > :08:37.prepared now. The storm's track may change.

:08:38. > :08:40.This monster hurricane comes on the heels of Harvey, which struck

:08:41. > :08:52.This But Irma is a bigger storm and potentially more dangerous. In

:08:53. > :08:58.Miami, they are preparing for the worst. This is not a storm to be

:08:59. > :09:06.taken lightly. This is probably the worst one since we moved here in

:09:07. > :09:12.2003. I have lived through Hurricane Andrew and Hurricane Katrina and

:09:13. > :09:15.Hurricane Wilma. A research plane filmed these pictures from inside

:09:16. > :09:19.the hurricane to predict its route and now millions of people across

:09:20. > :09:23.the Caribbean are preparing for this potentially catastrophic storm.

:09:24. > :09:25.A 14-year-old boy has died after a double

:09:26. > :09:36.Corey Junior Davis and another boy, who's 17, were found with gunshot

:09:37. > :09:37.injuries in Forest Gate on Monday afternoon.

:09:38. > :09:39.The second victim is said to have "life-changing injuries".

:09:40. > :09:44.Police have launched a murder investigation.

:09:45. > :09:46.Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that North Korea's nuclear

:09:47. > :09:48.and missile programme are a "flagrant violation"

:09:49. > :09:51.Speaking after talks with his South Korean counterpart

:09:52. > :09:54.in the Russia city of Vladivostok, Mr Putin also called for talks

:09:55. > :09:57.to try to resolve the crisis, warning that no resolution would be

:09:58. > :10:04.possible with just sanctions and pressure alone.

:10:05. > :10:08.The de-facto leader of Myanmar, Aung San Suu Kyi, has claimed

:10:09. > :10:10.that the crisis in Rakhine state is being distorted by

:10:11. > :10:14.Myanmar is currently under intense diplomatic pressure to end

:10:15. > :10:16.the violence its security forces are reportedly inflicting

:10:17. > :10:28.Nearly 150,000 people have fled into neighbouring Bangladesh.

:10:29. > :10:34.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:10:35. > :10:37.Get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:10:38. > :10:40.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:10:41. > :10:43.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:10:44. > :10:55.He only made his debut for Wales at the weekend and already he's

:10:56. > :11:03.turning into a real star in the side, isn't he?

:11:04. > :11:11.E-Ben Woodburn could well become the next big star. He is thought of

:11:12. > :11:16.highly by his club manager, Jurgen Klopp. His international manager

:11:17. > :11:23.decided to bring him in for Wales at the age of 17. He had a real effect.

:11:24. > :11:29.He scored a winner on his debut and in last night's qualifier, well he

:11:30. > :11:34.made another impact off the bench. The Liverpool man, showed no fear so

:11:35. > :11:39.far in a Welsh shirt. He has defied his age. Good wide play from him to

:11:40. > :11:45.set up the opening goal. It was a Man of the Match performance from

:11:46. > :11:49.Woodburn. So we could be looking at another Ryan Giggs or Gareth Bale,

:11:50. > :11:53.Aaron Ramsey getting another goal to put a seal on the result, but it was

:11:54. > :11:55.a very important win for Wales because that result coupled with

:11:56. > :11:59.defeat for the Republic of Ireland in their game with Serbia means that

:12:00. > :12:04.Wales have moved into second spot in Group D. That gives them a good

:12:05. > :12:09.chance of a play-off spot with a couple of qualifying games left.

:12:10. > :12:13.Wales and Ireland will face each other in a final qualifier in a

:12:14. > :12:15.month's time. That could be a winner takes all decider.

:12:16. > :12:21.Now, the England women's manager Mark Sampson has been responding

:12:22. > :12:33.Yes. There has been a bit of a storm at the FA over this. The former

:12:34. > :12:40.striker alleged an atmosphere of bullying and discrimination. She

:12:41. > :12:44.said that had been created by Sam son and included allegations of

:12:45. > :12:47.racially insensitive language and Sam son has been cleared by a FA and

:12:48. > :12:52.independent investigation and yesterday he chose to speak about

:12:53. > :12:57.the issue. He said his conscience was clear responding to the claim

:12:58. > :13:01.that he joked that he didn't want her Nigerian family to bring ebola

:13:02. > :13:06.to an England game. This is what he had to say. I have heard the

:13:07. > :13:11.specifics of the allegation and at the time we released a statement to

:13:12. > :13:14.be very clear that I didn't say that and I'm very disappointed the

:13:15. > :13:20.allegation has come out and I understand it. All I can say is I

:13:21. > :13:24.didn't say that with any of my communication, my intention clearly

:13:25. > :13:26.is to support the players, give them confidence and give them every

:13:27. > :13:36.chance to be successful on the field.

:13:37. > :13:42.She has claimed she e-mailed Sam son and he hasn't responded. We will see

:13:43. > :13:46.if the FA chooses to look at this further.

:13:47. > :13:50.Football will lose one of its greatest commentators

:13:51. > :13:55.at the end of this season - John Motson.

:13:56. > :14:04.We will hear and see less of John Motson. He is deciding to hang up

:14:05. > :14:08.the microphone after 50 years. He covered ten World Cups, ten euros,

:14:09. > :14:12.29 FA Cup Finals and more than 200 England games. He is at the age of

:14:13. > :14:16.72. He says he wants to stay within football and commentary. He won't be

:14:17. > :14:20.retiring from everything, but we won't have him describing a goal or

:14:21. > :14:24.two on a Saturday night and that will be a brand-new feeling for many

:14:25. > :14:28.of the football fans up and down the country. Hugh, thank you. I'll catch

:14:29. > :14:32.up with you later on. Hundreds of nurses are expected

:14:33. > :14:35.to gather in Central London later to demand a pay rise

:14:36. > :14:36.from the Government It comes as the Scottish government

:14:37. > :14:41.announce the pay cap in Scotland will be lifted and after hints

:14:42. > :15:04.from ministers that things could be Tell me how your life has been

:15:05. > :15:09.affected by the pay cap? I worry a lot more about money than I used to.

:15:10. > :15:15.Money is a lot tighter at the end of the month, there is less money left.

:15:16. > :15:22.So that means maybe you don't have a holiday that year or you shop for a

:15:23. > :15:26.cheaper brand in the supermarket. But it's also about how we feel

:15:27. > :15:31.under valued. So it's about yes, about money, but it's also every

:15:32. > :15:35.time the pay cap stays in place and every time we are told there is no

:15:36. > :15:41.money, it is a slap in the face for hard-working nurses and health care

:15:42. > :15:42.assistants, midwives, doctors, operating department practitioners,

:15:43. > :15:46.radiographers, everybody that works in the NHS and it is not, some of

:15:47. > :15:51.the lower paid staff that are really suffering. So health care assistants

:15:52. > :15:55.who are on band two, admin staff who are band ones, band twos, band

:15:56. > :16:00.threes which are the lower pay scales because they have had their

:16:01. > :16:01.pay frozen in the same way. It isn't just nurses that are suffering, it

:16:02. > :16:16.is staff across the NHS. Emma Louise, you are in Glasgow, so

:16:17. > :16:20.you will benefit from the cap is being lifted in Scotland. But that

:16:21. > :16:24.does not mean I will not keep fighting for it to be lifted across

:16:25. > :16:30.the UK. As well as that, I am a student, but I have benefited from

:16:31. > :16:35.the bursary appear, and I would love to see it being overturned down

:16:36. > :16:39.south, because I can see the number of nurses decreasing rapidly without

:16:40. > :16:42.that bursary in place. On top of that, Michael is right when he says

:16:43. > :16:50.it is about being undervalued, because we are out there saving your

:16:51. > :16:56.family's life, and it is about the same respect been coming back to us.

:16:57. > :17:02.I know that you used to be a nurse yourself - is the pay capped their?

:17:03. > :17:07.I worked under the bank, but I worked under the cap and a pay

:17:08. > :17:12.freeze from 2010-15, so I have done five years and I know how tough it

:17:13. > :17:19.is. Nurses don't go into the profession to become wealthy or to

:17:20. > :17:24.earn huge wages. It is about the recognition of how hard nurses have

:17:25. > :17:28.worked, and about the whole public sector and what it says to people

:17:29. > :17:32.when we say, we can't afford to give you a pay rise. But it is your

:17:33. > :17:36.Government that has enforced that. I am one of many colleagues trying to

:17:37. > :17:40.influence the Government to lift the pay cut. I am sponsoring an event

:17:41. > :17:44.with the RCN to raise awareness amongst MPs not just about the pay

:17:45. > :17:47.rise but to showcase what nurses really do, because I think there is

:17:48. > :17:56.a lack of understanding about how the role has changed and the crucial

:17:57. > :17:58.work that nurses do, both in hospitals and the community, and

:17:59. > :18:05.what a difference they make to the NHS. Sam, introduce yourself,

:18:06. > :18:10.please. I am the Executive Director of a free-market think tank. After

:18:11. > :18:13.the crisis, public sector wages rose as private sector wages collapsed,

:18:14. > :18:18.so the gap between the public and private sectors became large. The

:18:19. > :18:24.purpose of the pay freeze was to close that gap so that

:18:25. > :18:28.private-sector ways these -- wages and public sector could go back to

:18:29. > :18:33.the pre-crisis point. So you back the pay cap? Correct. It is probably

:18:34. > :18:38.time to think about getting rid of it, and I think there probably isn't

:18:39. > :18:42.a case for having a cap on all Government workers. It is a little

:18:43. > :18:46.strange to say that nurses should be treated the same way as tax

:18:47. > :18:49.collectors, for example. But we also need to remember that private-sector

:18:50. > :18:53.wages have been very sluggish and are still not much higher than they

:18:54. > :18:57.were ten years ago. When we talk about stuff like this, we need to

:18:58. > :19:00.remember that the private sector, which pays for this, is also

:19:01. > :19:05.suffering and has had a difficult time, but it may be time to review

:19:06. > :19:10.this and look at alternatives. Lorraine, I want to bring you in at

:19:11. > :19:13.this point, if I made. Do you think that nurses, firefighters, police

:19:14. > :19:19.officers are special cases and should have the cap removed? Very

:19:20. > :19:24.much so. I think front line emergency services are needed, and

:19:25. > :19:30.the skills that they have taken years to get... They also have to

:19:31. > :19:34.keep continual development to keep their accreditation, and I think

:19:35. > :19:40.that they should be treated specially in terms of the private

:19:41. > :19:43.sector. Sam said it is tough for people in the private sector, and

:19:44. > :19:46.many people watching the programme will say, I haven't had a pay rise

:19:47. > :19:53.for many years, and I know that has been the case for you as well. I

:19:54. > :20:01.left the private sector. I work for a telecoms company for 31 years. For

:20:02. > :20:09.the last few years, since 2008, we didn't have a pay award at all. We

:20:10. > :20:16.have had bonuses cut, but no pay award, which has an effect on our

:20:17. > :20:26.pension payments. Our pension will be a lot less when we retire. Yes, I

:20:27. > :20:29.do see that our pay award is based on performance, not just

:20:30. > :20:35.individually but on the company's performance, and in some instances,

:20:36. > :20:39.yes, you can use that yardstick, but in front line emergency services,

:20:40. > :20:44.like fire, police, etc, you need to be able to pay them a living wage,

:20:45. > :20:50.especially in areas like London, where the cost of living is very

:20:51. > :20:55.high. And also, we have got to keep and attract key personnel in the

:20:56. > :20:59.industry. If not, you get a situation like the one I have in

:21:00. > :21:07.Luton, where we have to recruit internationally. They do brilliant

:21:08. > :21:11.work in terms of looking after our pregnant women in the local hospital

:21:12. > :21:16.here, but we have to look externally to get the skills to bring in, which

:21:17. > :21:24.is ludicrous. I want to bring saffron into the

:21:25. > :21:29.conversation. I am an adviser at NHS providers, and we represent hospital

:21:30. > :21:39.and ambulance trusts in England. How much will it cost to lift the pay

:21:40. > :21:42.cap? The Institute of fiscal studies says it would cost ?1 billion per

:21:43. > :21:48.year. It is a substantial amount of money. But I would say that we

:21:49. > :21:52.called for an end to the pay cap last year, and we were amongst the

:21:53. > :21:57.first to do so, because we know it is critical that we not only recruit

:21:58. > :22:01.new staff into the NHS so we can maintain safe services but that we

:22:02. > :22:05.also retain those staff that R.N. There. We know there is huge

:22:06. > :22:08.pressure on the front line at the moment, and it is impacting on

:22:09. > :22:12.morale, and pay is one of those elements that we can see boosting

:22:13. > :22:17.morale. It is absolutely fundamental. Let's talk about the

:22:18. > :22:20.realities: Theresa May has said there was no magic money tree, so

:22:21. > :22:28.where does this ?1 billion a year come from? Across the public sector,

:22:29. > :22:33.if we lifted the cap, it would cost ?9 billion. I think there is

:22:34. > :22:41.sympathy from the public sector workers from the first few years --

:22:42. > :22:45.for the first few years, but that is waning. We still have a deficit that

:22:46. > :22:49.is costing ?46 billion a year, and if we just increase public sector

:22:50. > :22:53.spending, the interest payments will go up, and that is money we could

:22:54. > :22:57.spend on front line services. It is not just as simple as spending more

:22:58. > :23:01.money. We either raise taxes, which will hit those people getting the

:23:02. > :23:04.pay rise, or we make tough decisions. The money would have to

:23:05. > :23:11.come from another department or another policy, and that is the

:23:12. > :23:14.tough decision Government has to make. It is not easy. That is an

:23:15. > :23:18.important point. The other one is, if we found that we had ?9 billion

:23:19. > :23:29.to spend, would it necessarily be best spent on wages? Yes, in some

:23:30. > :23:34.cases, no in others. It is not clear that the money should always go to

:23:35. > :23:37.wages. The way the debate is focused, it seems as if it is the

:23:38. > :23:44.only thing the Government should spend money on. I think it is

:23:45. > :23:47.fundamental that we look at what the NHS's biggest asset is - its

:23:48. > :23:52.workforce. We need to invest in that. We need to do that so that

:23:53. > :23:56.services can transform. You can't transform services without the staff

:23:57. > :24:01.to do it. It fundamentally has to be new money. The ?8 billion that the

:24:02. > :24:05.Conservatives put in their manifesto for the NHS over the course of the

:24:06. > :24:09.next parliament, that will go on tackling demand, on keeping services

:24:10. > :24:17.going. We need to see new money for this pay cap, not money taken up

:24:18. > :24:21.elsewhere. So it is taxes? It is for politicians to decide how they raise

:24:22. > :24:24.that money. It is for the service to deliver the service. Politicians

:24:25. > :24:29.decide how much they will spend on the NHS, which we know is held dear

:24:30. > :24:34.in everyone's hearts. You have been listening patiently and I know you a

:24:35. > :24:38.dental nurse, and your mum is a nurse as well. Just explain to

:24:39. > :24:42.people watching how your life has been affected by the pay cap, and

:24:43. > :24:46.respond to what other people had been saying. Basically, we had to go

:24:47. > :24:53.to food banks. We would be scraping around for food. She couldn't afford

:24:54. > :24:56.her NMC registration most years, and that is about ?120 a year that

:24:57. > :25:00.nurses have to pay to remain qualified and to keep their jobs.

:25:01. > :25:09.She couldn't afford that, so she had to go to a charitable organisation.

:25:10. > :25:15.To her, that was quite embarrassing and hurt deeply, because she would

:25:16. > :25:19.be working 50 hours a week and would have hardly anything to show. People

:25:20. > :25:26.find it staggering. You say your mum had to go to a food bank even though

:25:27. > :25:31.she was working full time as a nurse? That's right, full-time hours

:25:32. > :25:34.and extra hours on top. She would have hardly anything to show for it.

:25:35. > :25:40.She had to get help with bills as well. I try to get a job when I was

:25:41. > :25:44.13 just so I could help her. It is a difficult situation which thousands

:25:45. > :25:50.of families are in right now. So, what is the answer? We're talking

:25:51. > :25:56.about the reality of lifting the pay cap being that this ?8 billion has

:25:57. > :26:00.to be found. Higher taxes or taking money from elsewhere - what is the

:26:01. > :26:04.best option? I think taking it from elsewhere. Everyone has taxes,

:26:05. > :26:08.including everyone in the public sector, who would have to pay more.

:26:09. > :26:13.They wouldn't benefit from that. I think they need to look elsewhere

:26:14. > :26:18.for this money. Everyone should benefit and not have more taken away

:26:19. > :26:23.from them. Marina has just rushed into the studio. Thanks so much for

:26:24. > :26:28.dashing in to see us. You are a student nurse? Just about to

:26:29. > :26:32.qualify, yes. I will start work in a few months. How do you feel right

:26:33. > :26:37.now? Michael was speaking at the beginning of the programme, saying

:26:38. > :26:44.how undervalued he feels at a nurse. How do you feel as you approach this

:26:45. > :26:50.new era in your life? I agree, it is a sad time. I started nursing

:26:51. > :26:54.because I have a passion for caring people, and it is a sad time to

:26:55. > :26:59.almost be a baby nurse, embarking the career in a climate where it is

:27:00. > :27:03.clear that the Government just doesn't care. We want to care for

:27:04. > :27:09.people, and we can't even care for ourselves and our families. I'm

:27:10. > :27:14.starting my career on pay that has been cut for the last few years and

:27:15. > :27:21.will not be going up to match the cost of living any time soon under

:27:22. > :27:25.the current plans. Yeah, it is a really difficult... Speak to Maria.

:27:26. > :27:30.She is a Conservative MP and used to be a nurse. Maria, speak to Marina -

:27:31. > :27:36.she says your Government doesn't care. The Government does care. They

:27:37. > :27:41.are in a difficult situation. If they simply spend more public money,

:27:42. > :27:45.we will all pay that and we will all lose that ?46 billion we're paying

:27:46. > :27:49.on interest rates. If you don't pay the balance on your credit card, you

:27:50. > :27:54.have to pay that interest when you could be spending it on your family.

:27:55. > :27:57.The Government, it is just a big credit card, and if we simply

:27:58. > :28:01.increase our spending, the money has to be paid back at some point. I get

:28:02. > :28:08.it, because I still do bank shifts at my old hospital. The NHS staff

:28:09. > :28:12.don't feel cared for. There are ways of doing this without simply lifting

:28:13. > :28:18.the cap across the whole sector. If we focused on the lowest bands,

:28:19. > :28:26.which are most nurses... What money are you talking about that people

:28:27. > :28:32.would earn? It would be significantly less than ?9 billion.

:28:33. > :28:39.Michael, do you know? Someone at the top of the increment would be on

:28:40. > :28:43.about ?41,000. Band one, a member of the security staff, a catering

:28:44. > :28:50.assistant, I think it is about 15,000, though I couldn't say for

:28:51. > :28:54.sure. The gender -- agenda for change pay scales are online and you

:28:55. > :28:59.can look at them. What you said about the magic money tree... I

:29:00. > :29:07.raised that, to be fair. Somebody raised it. In the papers just this

:29:08. > :29:09.week, there was a big headline of ?400,000 spent on ferrying

:29:10. > :29:13.briefcases around London by ministers. There is money out there,

:29:14. > :29:16.but it is about where it is being spent. There was another big

:29:17. > :29:22.headline a few weeks ago - Jeremy Hunt was getting a new ?40,000

:29:23. > :29:25.bathroom in his new offices at the Department of Health. I don't know

:29:26. > :29:28.if that is true, but there seem to be sums of money available that

:29:29. > :29:34.perhaps are not going where they should be. No one is a bigger critic

:29:35. > :29:38.of Government West than I am, but those are very small sums compared

:29:39. > :29:47.to what we're talking about. I think Maria's approaches the right one: On

:29:48. > :29:50.lower paid workers. We need to remember that job security is

:29:51. > :29:53.stronger in the public sector than in the private sector. Pensions are

:29:54. > :29:57.still better in the public sector than in the private. Those things

:29:58. > :30:01.come into it as well. I'm not completely convinced that if we had

:30:02. > :30:08.?9 billion to spend, the best thing would be to raise public sector

:30:09. > :30:12.workers' wages, rather than for example changing the welfare freeze.

:30:13. > :30:16.People who rely on welfare have much more dependency on food banks and

:30:17. > :30:19.people in that position have suffered as well. The point is, if

:30:20. > :30:25.we have this kind of money to spend, it is not clear it should be going

:30:26. > :30:30.on public sector wages. I think the point about security in the public

:30:31. > :30:34.sector, with the current climate, is null and void, because people are

:30:35. > :30:36.leaving. They may have job security, but if they haven't got enough

:30:37. > :30:39.security to raise their families and care for themselves, then, yeah, it

:30:40. > :30:51.is kind pointless. We are talking about Agenda for

:30:52. > :30:54.Change. Those people on the bands up to ?40,000. I think it is really

:30:55. > :30:57.important that we're clear what we're talking about. One of the

:30:58. > :31:02.things that's critical in this debate is that we make sure that the

:31:03. > :31:07.pay review body, which is the kind of the organisation that will look

:31:08. > :31:12.at pay is given a free hand to decide what the best level of pay

:31:13. > :31:15.increase is. That should be a fully independent body that looks at that.

:31:16. > :31:20.So that we actually know what needs to be spent to make sure that we

:31:21. > :31:25.have the staff we need in place to deliver a safe service. So the

:31:26. > :31:32.starting salary for a new nurse is about ?22,000 which works out about

:31:33. > :31:36.?13 an hour. To put that into context, McDon't amds workers have

:31:37. > :31:41.gone on strike for a ?10 an hour pay increase. We really do need to look

:31:42. > :31:45.at what we're paying highly skilled, highly trained people that are doing

:31:46. > :31:49.an amazing job and are doing it harder and harder all the time.

:31:50. > :31:54.Jeremy Hunt regularly says the NHS is doing more work than its ever

:31:55. > :31:58.done before. We can testify to that. But generally if you work in a

:31:59. > :32:02.business and your business is doing more and more work and doing better

:32:03. > :32:05.and better, you reward your staff and you recognise that your staff

:32:06. > :32:09.are working really hard. Lots of people getting in touch with us on

:32:10. > :32:13.the hashtag Victoria live. David says, "Low wages in whatever sector

:32:14. > :32:18.are wrong. The only beneficiaries are employers and the rest struggle

:32:19. > :32:22.to make ends meet." This one, Maria, it is a tweet from Rachel, "When was

:32:23. > :32:27.the last pay cap for MPs and how much could be saved if we capped

:32:28. > :32:32.their pay for seven years?" A tweet from Stewart saying, "The pay cap on

:32:33. > :32:38.nurses is about choice, they can find money for what the Government

:32:39. > :32:43.wants, but not for nurses." It is about choices and I'm trying to

:32:44. > :32:50.raise the issue of nurses' pay, it isn't about the pay cap, it is about

:32:51. > :32:53.nurses pay across-the-board. Nurses are taking on more and more roles

:32:54. > :32:58.and the nursing profession feels under valued so the pay freeze and

:32:59. > :33:01.the pay cap is one issue, but we need to look across-the-board at the

:33:02. > :33:07.pay structure for nursing in the long-term. Briefly, if you would. It

:33:08. > :33:12.is worth saying that the NHS isn't kind of set in stone on this issue.

:33:13. > :33:18.They are really developing changing working inowe vaitively and bringing

:33:19. > :33:20.in new roles so they can work more productively, it isn't about

:33:21. > :33:23.something that isn't changing with the times. The NHS workforce is

:33:24. > :33:26.often at the cutting edge of different ways of working and

:33:27. > :33:31.different ways of delivering service, it is worth remembering

:33:32. > :33:36.that we're not just asking for the pay cap to be lifted so that we can

:33:37. > :33:40.support what's there, it's about supporting change as well which is

:33:41. > :33:44.needed. Thank you all so much. Sorry, we're out of time, but thank

:33:45. > :33:47.you for all of you giving up your time to speak to us this morning.

:33:48. > :33:50.We invited the government to join our debate but they said

:33:51. > :33:53.In a statement the Department of Health said:

:33:54. > :33:55."As the Secretary of State has made clear,

:33:56. > :33:57.Ministers are well aware of the pressures on frontline NHS

:33:58. > :33:59.staff, including nurses, who do a fantastic job.

:34:00. > :34:02.The support and welfare of NHS staff is a top priority,

:34:03. > :34:04.and the government is committed to ensuring they can continue

:34:05. > :34:11.We are helping the NHS to make sure it has the right staff,

:34:12. > :34:14.in the right place, at the right time to provide safe care -

:34:15. > :34:16.that's why there are over 31,100 more professionally qualified

:34:17. > :34:18.clinical staff, including over 11,600 more doctors,

:34:19. > :34:31.and almost 12,000 more nurses on our wards since May 2010."

:34:32. > :34:33.Still to come: How a ground-breaking scheme in Glasgow is helping

:34:34. > :34:41.refugees who previously worked as doctors, join the NHS.

:34:42. > :34:45.We'll be speaking to the descendant of the last King of Myanmar,

:34:46. > :34:48.exiled by the British in 1885, a new documentary on the country's

:34:49. > :34:53.Royal family and how their descendents continue to live

:34:54. > :35:07.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:35:08. > :35:10.A leaked Home Office document has set out plans for how

:35:11. > :35:14.the UK immigration system could work after Brexit.

:35:15. > :35:17.The paper, which has been published by the Guardian newspaper,

:35:18. > :35:19.considers how the Government could dramatically reduce the number

:35:20. > :35:22.It also proposes time limits on how long EU nationals

:35:23. > :35:28.The BBC understands the document, which was produced last month,

:35:29. > :35:36.Winds from Hurricane Irma have begun lashing islands in the Caribbean -

:35:37. > :35:39.where people have been told to evacuate their homes.

:35:40. > :35:40.Officials are warning of the "potentially catastrophic"

:35:41. > :35:42.effects of the Category Five hurricane which has already

:35:43. > :35:48.It's starting to hit the Leeward Islands and will move

:35:49. > :35:50.on towards Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic.

:35:51. > :35:56.It's projected to reach the US state of Florida on Saturday.

:35:57. > :35:58.A 14-year-old boy has died after a double

:35:59. > :36:03.Corey Junior Davis and another boy, who is 17,were found with gunshot

:36:04. > :36:07.injuries in Forest Gate on Monday afternoon.

:36:08. > :36:10.The second victim is said to have "life-changing injuries".

:36:11. > :36:12.Police have launched a murder investigation.

:36:13. > :36:19.Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that North Korea's nuclear

:36:20. > :36:20.and missile programme are a "flagrant violation"

:36:21. > :36:27.Speaking after talks with his South Korean counterpart

:36:28. > :36:30.in the Russia city of Vladivostok, Mr Putin also called for talks

:36:31. > :36:33.to try to resolve the crisis, warning that no resolution would be

:36:34. > :36:39.possible with just sanctions and pressure alone.

:36:40. > :36:47.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

:36:48. > :36:54.17-year-old Ben Woodburn came off the bench and put in a Man

:36:55. > :36:57.of the Match performance to help Wales to a 2-0 win over Moldova.

:36:58. > :36:59.He set-up the opening goal for Hal Robson Kanu.

:37:00. > :37:01.Aaron Ramsey got the second in the closing moments.

:37:02. > :37:04.That win coupled with defeat for the Republic of Ireland at home

:37:05. > :37:06.to Serbia, means Wales go into the play off spot

:37:07. > :37:08.in Group D with two qualifiers remaining -

:37:09. > :37:11.the sides do meet in the final group game.

:37:12. > :37:16.At the age of 37, Venus Williams is into another Grand Slam semi-final.

:37:17. > :37:20.She beat Petra Kvitova in a thrilling final set tie-break

:37:21. > :37:22.to reach the last four at the US Open.

:37:23. > :37:27.She'll face fellow American Sloane Stephens next.

:37:28. > :37:35.Chris Froome doubled his lead yesterday. He won the 16th stage

:37:36. > :37:38.time trial to extend his lead to one minute and 58 seconds with five

:37:39. > :37:39.stages to go. That's all the sport for now. We

:37:40. > :37:45.will be back with more after 10am. Doctors who've travelled to Scotland

:37:46. > :37:47.as refugees are being given the chance to start working

:37:48. > :37:49.for the NHS. A new training programme gives

:37:50. > :37:51.qualified doctors training, language support and mentoring,

:37:52. > :37:53.with the aim of helping them to register with

:37:54. > :37:55.the General Medical Council The scheme is being funded

:37:56. > :37:59.by the Scottish Government I always say to people that

:38:00. > :38:12.I imagine taking out someone's appendix in Peshwar is not that

:38:13. > :38:15.different to taking out someone's People arriving in the UK

:38:16. > :38:24.and seeking asylum have been dispersed to Glasgow

:38:25. > :38:27.for the last 17 years. Proportionately, it's got the second

:38:28. > :38:29.highest population of asylum seekers And recently a lot of the people

:38:30. > :38:41.arriving are highly qualified. I wish that one day this country

:38:42. > :39:01.will be proud of me. So, Glasgow, hello,

:39:02. > :39:03.how are you doing? Monday,

:39:04. > :39:07.he seems confused. We would like you to do

:39:08. > :39:10.an assessment of him. First, you can see

:39:11. > :39:16.his airway's open. A class of doctors relearning

:39:17. > :39:18.bits of their trade This exercise is situational

:39:19. > :39:23.judgment and as part of a programme funded by the Scottish Government

:39:24. > :39:27.that gives refugee doctors the skills to get their UK medical

:39:28. > :39:29.registration approved, At the moment, these doctors are not

:39:30. > :39:35.allowed to practice. Is it frustrating, not being able

:39:36. > :39:46.to do what you're qualified for? You want to do it,

:39:47. > :39:59.but your hand is cut. How qualified where

:40:00. > :40:00.you back at home? I'm a qualified medical doctor,

:40:01. > :40:05.I passed all my exams, licensed. It's hard to start again from zero,

:40:06. > :40:14.because I already did everything. How do you make sure they've got

:40:15. > :40:17.the right qualification? NHS Education for Scotland does that

:40:18. > :40:21.bit of the programme, and they check out the qualifications

:40:22. > :40:24.they bring with them. It's a bit difficult sometimes,

:40:25. > :40:27.because the institutions that people have studied are perhaps no longer

:40:28. > :40:29.there, but the process of becoming a doctor,

:40:30. > :40:31.retraining as a doctor, is so complex that there

:40:32. > :40:33.is no way that anyone who is not a doctor would get

:40:34. > :40:39.through the clinical exams. And then once you give them fluid,

:40:40. > :40:43.it's a diuretic, so you kind of go on the injuries that they've

:40:44. > :40:45.got, plus the physical, What things is Pat saying that

:40:46. > :40:52.are different, that things are done differently here to how you may have

:40:53. > :40:57.learned them before? In my country, the system

:40:58. > :40:59.is British, the medical system, But the nice thing is that he speaks

:41:00. > :41:05.simple English-language. I would imagine when you're

:41:06. > :41:11.learning English, local When you're actually

:41:12. > :41:15.speaking to patients, sometimes they're not quite as clear

:41:16. > :41:19.as you and I. For example, yesterday someone

:41:20. > :41:21.told me I have a headache, And people say I had a couple

:41:22. > :41:33.of beers, and they don't mean two. I don't think there's any difference

:41:34. > :41:36.in the actual clinical skills. I think where there has

:41:37. > :41:41.been a huge difference is attitudes to patients,

:41:42. > :41:43.and attitudes to how And we had one surgeon

:41:44. > :41:50.who didn't really seem to be in engaging in the class,

:41:51. > :41:52.and when I asked him, he looked slightly puzzled,

:41:53. > :41:55.and he said well, I'm a surgeon, and I said, yes, and he said well,

:41:56. > :41:58.when I get my patients, they're asleep, I never have

:41:59. > :42:00.to talk to them. So it's getting them to understand

:42:01. > :42:03.that the NHS is very different. This man used to be

:42:04. > :42:07.a doctor in the Iraqi army. He came to Scotland to study,

:42:08. > :42:10.but his life was threatened in Iraq, It's quite confusing sometimes

:42:11. > :42:17.because we know medical terms. If you tell them something

:42:18. > :42:20.that is informal, it might not sound right

:42:21. > :42:23.or the patient may not I learned to say how

:42:24. > :42:32.are the waterworks down there? Before refugees can even

:42:33. > :42:43.take their medical exams, they have to speak really good

:42:44. > :42:48.English. Now that means taking

:42:49. > :42:50.an English test, called IELTS, Now that's a test that even some

:42:51. > :42:56.American and Australian doctors You can tell from the kind of words

:42:57. > :43:17.being discussed in here, and the ideas, that this is a really

:43:18. > :43:26.high level of English. It would be double R

:43:27. > :43:30.if I were using it, so I incurred... The programme also arranges

:43:31. > :43:32.placements with GPs or hospitals, all pushing towards passing

:43:33. > :43:40.their medical exams. Have you been out of the medical

:43:41. > :43:43.profession for some time? Yes, the sometime, maybe

:43:44. > :43:47.four or five years. We have clients from every

:43:48. > :43:49.conceivable area of work, and many of them find it

:43:50. > :43:52.so difficult to get back into the jobs that they've done,

:43:53. > :43:55.that they end up taking jobs for which they are

:43:56. > :44:07.way over qualified. And I think underemployment

:44:08. > :44:09.in the refugee population If someone is a qualified

:44:10. > :44:14.accountant, and they are working pushing trolleys in Tesco's,

:44:15. > :44:16.now there is an argument that they are actually taking a job

:44:17. > :44:19.from a poorly qualified person Lots of colleagues, or people

:44:20. > :44:22.who are doctors living here, Some of them are even taxi drivers

:44:23. > :44:29.which has let down hope for a lot of people,

:44:30. > :44:33.and this has given us a lot of hope. Fatimah was a surgeon

:44:34. > :44:43.in the Middle East. She treated anti-government

:44:44. > :44:46.protesters, and in the end her care for them meant she too was a target

:44:47. > :44:48.for the government If I would say yes, then

:44:49. > :44:57.where is my promise in medical graduation that we would treat

:44:58. > :45:02.people equally and we will try to do whatever

:45:03. > :45:05.is possible to help people? There are 38 people

:45:06. > :45:15.on the programme at the moment. Asylum seekers are allowed

:45:16. > :45:18.on as well as those who have been It is funded by ?160,000

:45:19. > :45:25.of Scottish Government money, and as part of the deal doctors

:45:26. > :45:33.commit to working for NHS Scotland. I've been a doctor or a medical

:45:34. > :45:35.student since I was 17. Being a doctor becomes a very

:45:36. > :45:38.central part of your identity, you know, it's kind of who you are,

:45:39. > :45:42.so I can understand how difficult it must be for a refugee doctors

:45:43. > :45:45.where that part of their identity So you're part of this international

:45:46. > :45:48.community of people. When I used to work

:45:49. > :45:53.in the hospital in my country, and we would discuss with friends,

:45:54. > :45:56.and come up with a certain difficult or rare disease,

:45:57. > :45:59.and I cannot explain. As well as getting people back

:46:00. > :46:08.to their careers as doctors being the right thing to do

:46:09. > :46:13.from a humanitarian standpoint, it's also the right thing to do

:46:14. > :46:16.financially because it would be a hugely wasted resource if people

:46:17. > :46:19.had already gone through very expensive medical training were not

:46:20. > :46:28.used as doctors. And medicine isn't a job

:46:29. > :46:30.for any of these women and men, it's a vocation,

:46:31. > :46:32.they want to practice medicine. Hopefully that I will pass

:46:33. > :46:36.all exams, and first of all it is the language exam,

:46:37. > :46:39.and to practice medicine again. And I wish that one day this country

:46:40. > :46:54.will be proud of me. That report from Glasgow. If you

:46:55. > :46:57.want to watch it or share it, you can go to our programme page.

:46:58. > :47:07.Is the Government is planning a dramatic crackdown on EU migrant

:47:08. > :47:10.labour after Brexit? We'll have the details.

:47:11. > :47:12.Our next guest is the great-grandchild of Thibaw -

:47:13. > :47:15.the last King of Myanmar - who was overthrown by the British

:47:16. > :47:20.He's in the UK for the very first time since Myanmar -

:47:21. > :47:23.also known as Burma - gained independence

:47:24. > :47:25.from Britain, for the screening of a new documentary.

:47:26. > :47:27.It's about the history of the country's Royal family

:47:28. > :47:30.and how their descendents continue to live there in also

:47:31. > :47:35.The film coincides with another crisis in Myanmar's troubled history

:47:36. > :47:41.- the exodus of more than a hundred thousand of the country's

:47:42. > :47:44.Rohingya Muslims who have fled the country after suffering violence

:47:45. > :47:48.Rohingya Muslims who have fled the country after suffering violence

:47:49. > :48:08.Life is a very complicated matter. It is a surprise to some of them

:48:09. > :48:25.that we are still alive. We are born with a history. We have to accept. I

:48:26. > :48:29.am the great-grandson of King Thibaw. We have a responsibility,

:48:30. > :48:38.because that blood is running in our body. Princess Margaret, she likes

:48:39. > :48:48.the free life, no? I like her. We lost our identity.

:48:49. > :48:53.The incredible twists and turns their lives to, stranger than any

:48:54. > :49:18.work of fiction. Let's talk now with the film's

:49:19. > :49:23.director Alex Bescoby and its subject, great-grandson

:49:24. > :49:32.of the former king, U Soe Win. Thank you both for coming in. Alex,

:49:33. > :49:37.I want to ask you first of all why you wanted to make this film. Good

:49:38. > :49:42.question. It is bizarre to be sat here with U Soe Win in London. Three

:49:43. > :49:47.years ago we first met, and the story started to unfold of what

:49:48. > :49:53.happened to his great-grandfather. And how his family vanished from

:49:54. > :49:57.history. I had been studying Burmese history, and I had wanted to tell a

:49:58. > :50:02.particular story, the story of Britain in Burma. Many people in

:50:03. > :50:05.this country really have no idea about our shared history of what an

:50:06. > :50:15.impact we had on this country. And I think a lot of what is happening in

:50:16. > :50:18.modern Myanmar you can trace to its past, obviously. We started making

:50:19. > :50:23.this film three years ago together, and we have ended up here in London,

:50:24. > :50:28.showing him the city that I live in. Tell us why you wanted to take part.

:50:29. > :50:32.I know when I was watching the film yesterday, you said in it, I was

:50:33. > :50:37.surprised that you wanted to take part. What was the appeal for you?

:50:38. > :50:45.From the very beginning, we were not much interested. Especially since we

:50:46. > :50:57.lost our royalty. But in 2014, when we met this gentleman and also his

:50:58. > :51:04.colleague, they wanted to show our lost families. And then we decided

:51:05. > :51:12.to talk to them, because before, we didn't want to talk about this. I am

:51:13. > :51:16.very surprised I am here in London. And you didn't want to talk about it

:51:17. > :51:28.because it was a painful part of your family history? Our family lost

:51:29. > :51:32.everything. When my great-grandfather was 85, only to

:51:33. > :51:37.make daughters, very young, the first and second Princess, and the

:51:38. > :51:46.third Princess was in her mother's boom, in a very late stage, and she

:51:47. > :52:08.was born in madrasahs. -- in her mother's womb. They had objectives

:52:09. > :52:13.we couldn't quite see. They only found us because we are lost.

:52:14. > :52:18.Sometimes we don't know we are lost because we have been forgotten for

:52:19. > :52:21.many years. You a forgotten, and people will find that fascinating to

:52:22. > :52:26.watch this. Many people who watch this programme will not be familiar

:52:27. > :52:29.with Myanmar's history. They may recognise the name Aung San Suu Kyi,

:52:30. > :52:35.whom I know you have met. Before we talk about that, how were you

:52:36. > :52:40.treated in your country? -- how are you treated in your country? Are you

:52:41. > :52:46.given special status or are people unaware? We are just commoners. At

:52:47. > :52:54.the same time, they have respect. The majority of us are Buddhists,

:52:55. > :53:04.and the Kings, our ancestors, they were very staunch protectors of the

:53:05. > :53:11.religion. In this city, everyone is busy, but in remote areas, they

:53:12. > :53:18.still remember this attachment. When we first met, I was looking for him,

:53:19. > :53:25.was sat next to her matter table, and figured it out afterwards. It

:53:26. > :53:29.was that unknown, really. It has been wonderful to go through this

:53:30. > :53:32.three-year journey with U Soe Win, because a lot of it we have been

:53:33. > :53:37.finding out together. We visited India together to see the tomb of

:53:38. > :53:42.his great-grandfather, still in exile, whether British said Tim. And

:53:43. > :53:45.we have been sort of finding out more and more about the hidden

:53:46. > :53:50.history of this story. I think it is important to get it out there,

:53:51. > :53:53.because it is a story that's really important in Myanmar, but also the

:53:54. > :53:59.British people to understand as well. As I say, you have met Aung

:54:00. > :54:04.San Suu Kyi. Many people will be familiar, she was under house arrest

:54:05. > :54:11.for many years in Myanmar. What is she like as a person and for you to

:54:12. > :54:17.meet her? We have a personal attachment, I think. Why an I was

:54:18. > :54:27.serving in the foreign service, she was under house arrest. She was

:54:28. > :54:34.meeting a UN representative, and during the meetings, I was in charge

:54:35. > :54:41.of protocol matters. I met her at the state guesthouse, welcomed them,

:54:42. > :54:47.introduced the guests. I don't remember how many times we did that,

:54:48. > :54:56.but on one occasion, while we were walking, she asked me, from where

:54:57. > :55:05.IQ? I said, I'm from the Foreign Ministry, but I didn't stop there. I

:55:06. > :55:09.said I am the nephew of a Prince that she knew personally. She

:55:10. > :55:18.changed, she was smiling, and from then on, when we met,... We look

:55:19. > :55:25.today at what is happening in your country, in Myanmar, a huge crisis

:55:26. > :55:37.there right now. Second man has -- Aung San Suu Kyi has responded today

:55:38. > :55:40.to the Muslims moving over the border to Bangladesh. We're very

:55:41. > :55:43.sorry about that. At the same we would like to express that we are a

:55:44. > :55:59.peace-loving country. We all believe that this matter should be

:56:00. > :56:10.brought to an end as soon as possible. Do you hope for a quick

:56:11. > :56:21.end to it? Do you think there will be? Yes. Aung San Suu Kyi has the

:56:22. > :56:28.confidence of the international community, so we all believe. It is

:56:29. > :56:32.heartbreaking to see. We have been working and living and travelling

:56:33. > :56:36.around Myanmar for ten years, making this film for three years, and in

:56:37. > :56:41.that time, I have seen thousands of incidences of kindness and

:56:42. > :56:45.generosity, and I hope some of that comes across in this film. It's not

:56:46. > :56:52.the Myanmar we want to know will stop and I think it is coincidental

:56:53. > :56:55.that when we were making this film, we had the first credible election

:56:56. > :56:59.in 50 years, and we film someone voting for the first time. We were

:57:00. > :57:04.on the streets. And it is an unimaginable sense of hope for a

:57:05. > :57:09.better future. And I think we both hope that Myanmar is still on the

:57:10. > :57:15.right track, but there are a lot of challenges. Tell people where they

:57:16. > :57:19.can see the film. That is why we're here. The Premier is on Saturday at

:57:20. > :57:23.the British library. Sold out a month ago, which is great. But we're

:57:24. > :57:29.hoping for a UK broadcast after the premiere, and we will take it on

:57:30. > :57:33.tour next year because it is 70th anniversary of Myanmar's

:57:34. > :57:37.independence from the UK. Thank you for coming in. I hope you enjoy your

:57:38. > :57:39.trip to London. Get him to show you all the good sites.

:57:40. > :57:59.Let's get the latest weather. Hurricane Irma has moved to here so

:58:00. > :58:04.far. You can see the size and extent of the storm, with a well-defined

:58:05. > :58:11.eye. It has been producing winds of 185 mph. Gusts over 200 mph. The

:58:12. > :58:17.winds will be catastrophic from this hurricane. As well as heavy rainfall

:58:18. > :58:21.and a significant storm surge too. It will move across parts of the

:58:22. > :58:25.Virgin Islands, Haiti and the Dominican Republic, before heading

:58:26. > :58:30.towards Cuba and eventually Florida by the time we get to the weekend.

:58:31. > :58:37.There could be a storm surge of up to 15 feet, potentially catastrophic

:58:38. > :58:40.impact from Hurricane Irma in the Caribbean. Closer to home, a much

:58:41. > :58:46.quieter picture on this side of the Atlantic. A bright and breezy day.

:58:47. > :58:49.Seems like this one, taken near Peterborough. And that is how it

:58:50. > :58:56.stays through the day - bright, breezy, and for most of us, a dry

:58:57. > :59:00.day. A few showers packing into the north and west. Scattered showers

:59:01. > :59:03.across north-west Scotland, one or two back for Ireland, some for

:59:04. > :59:07.north-west England and Wales. Elsewhere, likely to stay dry and

:59:08. > :59:11.bright. A bit of a breeze from the west, and it feels fresh and less

:59:12. > :59:14.humid than in recent days. In the afternoon, some of those showers

:59:15. > :59:20.affect northern and western Scotland. Some sunshine in between.

:59:21. > :59:23.Eastern Scotland will feel quite pleasant, 17 Celsius in Aberdeen.

:59:24. > :59:27.That could be a passing shower in parts of Northern Ireland, but

:59:28. > :59:35.mostly drive through the afternoon. A few isolated showers for Cumbria

:59:36. > :59:43.and Lancashire. Across England and Wales, a lot of dry weather. Some

:59:44. > :59:49.clout, but it shouldn't spoil the sunshine too much. Most of us will

:59:50. > :59:54.be dry into the evening hours. And with clear skies and light winds, it

:59:55. > :59:59.will be quite chilly once again. Later in the night, more cloud

:00:00. > :00:02.arriving from the West, bringing the north-west some rain. Tomorrow, not

:00:03. > :00:09.quite as chilly as it was first thing this morning. Through the day,

:00:10. > :00:14.things start to change because we see wet and windy weather arriving

:00:15. > :00:18.from the north-west. From Scotland's -- for Scotland and Northern

:00:19. > :00:28.Ireland, a wet and blustery day. Further south-east across the UK,

:00:29. > :00:31.you are more likely to say stay dry. With the arrival of this area of low

:00:32. > :00:35.pressure, it marks a change to something more unsettled to end the

:00:36. > :00:38.week. As we move into Friday morning, the low pressure sits to

:00:39. > :00:41.the north of the UK, and we will see the wind rotating around that low

:00:42. > :00:47.pressure, bringing plenty of blustery showers and more persistent

:00:48. > :00:54.rainfall to southern counties of England. It will be cooler, 14-18dC.

:00:55. > :00:57.Low pressure stays into the weekend. Sunshine and showers on Saturday,

:00:58. > :01:07.but things could turn increasingly wet and windy on Sunday.

:01:08. > :01:16.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 10am, I'm Chloe Tiley.

:01:17. > :01:22.The Government is looking at ways to dramatically reduce the number of

:01:23. > :01:24.low skilled EU migrants after Brexit according to a leaked Home Office

:01:25. > :01:28.document. We want British companies to do more

:01:29. > :01:32.to train up British workers to do more to improve skills of those

:01:33. > :01:34.who leave our colleges. So there is always

:01:35. > :01:36.a balance to be struck. We're not closing the door

:01:37. > :01:43.on all future immigration, Company bosses being faced by being

:01:44. > :01:45.told put British workers fired or you will be taxed if you keep on

:01:46. > :01:47.hiring unskilled EU workers. But critics say such a plan would be

:01:48. > :01:50.disastrous for business. We look at the new NHS guidelines

:01:51. > :01:54.on how to treat endometriosis - an incurable condition affecting 10%

:01:55. > :01:57.of women which causes extreme pain Do get in touch if it's something

:01:58. > :02:01.you've suffered from. And we'll have the latest on one

:02:02. > :02:04.of the strongest storms ever recorded in the Atlantic -

:02:05. > :02:07.Hurricane Irma is the size of Texas - and it's about to barrel

:02:08. > :02:13.through the Caribbean. The advice has been if you're

:02:14. > :02:18.in a flood prone area, get out. Like no two-ways about it

:02:19. > :02:20.and obviously those big storm Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:02:21. > :02:35.with a summary of today's news. A leaked Home Office document has

:02:36. > :02:41.set out plans for how the UK immigration system

:02:42. > :02:43.could work after Brexit. The paper,

:02:44. > :02:44.which has been published by the Guardian newspaper,

:02:45. > :02:46.considers how the Government could dramatically reduce the number

:02:47. > :02:49.of low-skilled EU migrants. It also proposes time limits

:02:50. > :02:51.on how long EU nationals The BBC understands the document,

:02:52. > :02:55.which was produced last month, Winds from Hurricane Irma have begun

:02:56. > :03:04.lashing islands in the Caribbean - where people have been told

:03:05. > :03:07.to evacuate their homes. Officials are warning

:03:08. > :03:08.of the "potentially catastrophic" effects of the Category Five

:03:09. > :03:11.hurricane which has already It's starting to hit

:03:12. > :03:18.the Leeward Islands and will move on towards Puerto Rico

:03:19. > :03:20.and the Dominican Republic. It's projected to reach the US state

:03:21. > :03:27.of Florida on Saturday. A 14-year-old boy has

:03:28. > :03:29.died after a double Corey Junior Davis and another boy,

:03:30. > :03:36.who is 17,were found with gunshot Corey Junior Davis and another boy,

:03:37. > :03:39.who is 17, were found with gunshot injuries in Forest Gate

:03:40. > :03:41.on Monday afternoon. The second victim is said to have

:03:42. > :03:43."life-changing injuries". Police have launched

:03:44. > :03:44.a murder investigation. Russian President Vladimir Putin has

:03:45. > :03:51.said that North Korea's nuclear and missile programme

:03:52. > :03:54.are a "flagrant violation" Speaking after talks

:03:55. > :03:58.with his South Korean counterpart in the Russia city of Vladivostok,

:03:59. > :04:01.Mr Putin also called for talks to try to resolve the crisis,

:04:02. > :04:04.warning that no resolution would be possible with just sanctions

:04:05. > :04:10.and pressure alone. The de facto leader of Myanmar,

:04:11. > :04:14.Aung San Suu Kyi, has claimed that the crisis in Rakhine state

:04:15. > :04:16.is being distorted by Myanmar is currently under intense

:04:17. > :04:21.diplomatic pressure to end the violence its security forces

:04:22. > :04:23.are reportedly inflicting Nearly 150,000 people have fled

:04:24. > :04:33.into neighbouring Bangladesh. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:34. > :04:39.News - more at 10.30am. Thank you. Message are coming in. My

:04:40. > :04:50.tablet is not updating. Wales are still on track to qualify

:04:51. > :04:55.for next year's World Cup It was another great night

:04:56. > :05:00.for 17-year-old Ben Woodburn, who set up Kal Robson-Kanu 10

:05:01. > :05:02.minutes from time. Woodburn scored the winner

:05:03. > :05:04.against Austria at the weekend, And in injury time, Aaron Ramsey

:05:05. > :05:19.sealed the win that leaves them We have to make sure we got these

:05:20. > :05:22.wins no matter. We always talk about performance. It has come down to the

:05:23. > :05:27.crunch time and it's all about results now. Yeah, obviously two

:05:28. > :05:31.wins out of two. We haven't done that in a long time. It is great

:05:32. > :05:33.that we have the winning mentality back and hopefully it is a snowball

:05:34. > :05:36.effect for next time. It means Wales leapfrog the Republic

:05:37. > :05:38.of Ireland after they were beaten Former Manchester City player

:05:39. > :05:42.Aleksander Kolarov scored The England women's

:05:43. > :05:49.coach Mark Sampson has responded to allegations

:05:50. > :05:51.from former striker Eni Aluko that he had created

:05:52. > :05:53.an atmosphere of "bullying and discrimination" and used

:05:54. > :05:56.racially insensitive language. Sampson was cleared by both an FA

:05:57. > :05:59.and an independent investigation He denies Aluko's claim that he'd

:06:00. > :06:04.joked he didn't want her Nigerian family to bring Ebola

:06:05. > :06:14.to an England game. I've heard the specifics

:06:15. > :06:22.of the allegation and at the time we released a statement

:06:23. > :06:24.and to be very clear I'm very disappointed

:06:25. > :06:27.the allegation's come out but I understand it and all I can

:06:28. > :06:31.say is I didn't say that to Eni. With any of my communication, my

:06:32. > :06:34.intention is to support the players, give them confidence and give them

:06:35. > :06:37.chance to be successful At the age of 37, Venus Williams

:06:38. > :06:42.is two wins away from another grand She beat Petra Kvitova

:06:43. > :06:47.in a real thriller to reach It took over two and a half hours

:06:48. > :06:52.and the deciding set Kvitova only returned to the tour

:06:53. > :06:56.three months ago after the knife attack that damaged her playing hand

:06:57. > :07:11.and Williams said it felt This match means a lot to me. I have

:07:12. > :07:15.been playing at home and of course, it being a major and it means a lot

:07:16. > :07:20.to her coming back and being able to compete in this major and to prove,

:07:21. > :07:23.you know, obhave you beensly to herself that she could defeat

:07:24. > :07:26.anything no matter what is thrown at her. It was amazing to see her shine

:07:27. > :07:28.today. Chris Froome heads into

:07:29. > :07:31.another day in the hills on the Tour of Spain

:07:32. > :07:33.today and he's nearly two Froome won his fourth Tour de France

:07:34. > :07:39.in July, but he's never He dominated yesterday's time trial

:07:40. > :07:44.to almost double his lead And before I go, there's time to let

:07:45. > :07:51.you know that the BBC Get Inspired Unsung Hero Award

:07:52. > :07:53.is open for nominations. It's designed to recognise those

:07:54. > :07:56.who devote their free time to help people in grass-roots

:07:57. > :07:58.activity and sports and it's You can find everything you need

:07:59. > :08:10.to know at: bbc.co.uk/unsunghero That's all the sport for now. I will

:08:11. > :08:20.be back with more later on. Thanks, Hugh.

:08:21. > :08:22.The Government is looking at ways to dramatically reduce the number

:08:23. > :08:25.of low-skilled EU migrants after Brexit according to a leaked

:08:26. > :08:28.The document, which is NOT official government policy,

:08:29. > :08:30.suggests capping visas for unskilled labourers at two years.

:08:31. > :08:32.Let's speak to our political guru, Norman Smith,

:08:33. > :08:37.What's in the leaked document? Big thought number one is the Government

:08:38. > :08:41.wants a concerted clamp-down on the number of unskilled EU migrants

:08:42. > :08:45.coming into the UK and big thought number two is they want to

:08:46. > :08:49.pressurise companies to have a British workers first policy. Now,

:08:50. > :08:53.in detail, what that means is they are going to suggest that if

:08:54. > :08:57.unskilled EU workers want to come to Britain, they will only be able to

:08:58. > :09:00.stay for two years. They'll have to be earning a certain salary and they

:09:01. > :09:04.can't just come here and look for work, they will have to have a job

:09:05. > :09:08.already lined up and the Government is looking at the possibility of

:09:09. > :09:12.just putting a cap, a limit on the number of unskilled EU migrants who

:09:13. > :09:16.can come here. So there will be X number and once you reach that

:09:17. > :09:21.number, back, the door is closed. In terms of business, business will be

:09:22. > :09:26.under huge pressure to recruit British workers. They may have to

:09:27. > :09:31.under go a sort of test to make sure that they have gone out and tried to

:09:32. > :09:35.recruit British workers and if they then skill want to recruit unskilled

:09:36. > :09:39.EU migrants they could be taxed with the money going to a sort of

:09:40. > :09:42.training levy to help improve the skills of British workers. This is a

:09:43. > :09:48.draft document. It's not signed, sealed and delivered. It's not all

:09:49. > :09:51.been agreed, but when you listen to ministers, listen to the Defence

:09:52. > :09:55.Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon this morning, they are hardly distancing

:09:56. > :09:58.themselves from the contents of this document.

:09:59. > :10:12.We want more British companies to invest in the British workforce.

:10:13. > :10:17.To make sure we have a better skilled workforce for them to dau

:10:18. > :10:18.on. The public want immigration to come

:10:19. > :10:30.down to sustainable levels. We made that clear in every

:10:31. > :10:31.manifesto. So there is a balance to be struck here.

:10:32. > :10:37.The Home Secretary will set out proposals later this year.

:10:38. > :10:43.When will this kick in? There will be a two year transition phase after

:10:44. > :10:47.we leave the EU, after March 2019 when not much will change. If you

:10:48. > :10:51.are an EU national and want to come to Britain during the transition

:10:52. > :10:54.phase for more than six months, you'll have to get the approval of

:10:55. > :11:00.the Home Office and you'll have to have a sort of ID card, a biometric

:11:01. > :11:03.passport to show you're OK to be in this country. Norman, thank you for

:11:04. > :11:07.clarifying that for us. Let's get some more

:11:08. > :11:09.analysis on this story now. Joining me in the studio

:11:10. > :11:13.is the Conservative MP for Dover, Marley Morris from

:11:14. > :11:16.the IPPR think tank, Alp Mehmet is Vice-Chair

:11:17. > :11:22.of the Migration Watch think-tank. We are also joined down

:11:23. > :11:24.the line form Westminster by the co-leader of the Green Party,

:11:25. > :11:31.Caroline Lucas. Thank you all for speaking to us

:11:32. > :11:37.this morning. You broadly welcome this leaked document? I do, yes. I

:11:38. > :11:41.hope that it remains substantially as it is that it doesn't go through

:11:42. > :11:48.any sort of change so it is watered down. If you want to bring numbers

:11:49. > :11:54.down frankly from the EU in the way that I think people voted for then

:11:55. > :12:00.this strikes me as a sensible balanced and reasonable way of going

:12:01. > :12:05.about it. Focussing on the higher skilled and indeed, making sure that

:12:06. > :12:08.we don't bring people in simply because they're cheaper or they are

:12:09. > :12:15.there and prepared to take up the jobs. So yeah, it is the right way

:12:16. > :12:18.and will potentially lead up to 100,000 fewer people coming in over

:12:19. > :12:25.the numbers that we've had in recent years. I can see Marly wincing.

:12:26. > :12:27.There is no detail yet about what this future system for immigration

:12:28. > :12:31.will be and that document doesn't explain that. What it really sets

:12:32. > :12:34.out is what the transition measures will be and the concern there is

:12:35. > :12:38.there is a contradiction between what the transition will be agreed

:12:39. > :12:42.between the EU and the UK for the years after Brexit and what this

:12:43. > :12:45.document says about EU migrants because what we are saying in the

:12:46. > :12:50.transition there won't be freedom of moment and that may go down very

:12:51. > :12:55.badly with EU leaders, you know, across the 27.

:12:56. > :12:59.Well, freedom of movement is going to end. That goes without saying

:13:00. > :13:04.because that's what will happen when we come out of the EU. And once

:13:05. > :13:10.freedom of movement ends then you have got to have some sort of system

:13:11. > :13:13.to control people coming in and this is a perfectly reasonable system. If

:13:14. > :13:17.only because we have been doing it for many, many years for those

:13:18. > :13:21.coming from outside the EU anyway. So it's nothing new. Perfectly

:13:22. > :13:27.reasonable system, Caroline Lucas? Absolutely not. This suggested paper

:13:28. > :13:30.is economically illiterate. It will harm our economy. I think it's

:13:31. > :13:35.cruel. It's going to separate families and I think it's also

:13:36. > :13:40.backward looking. I think it will deny future generations the right

:13:41. > :13:47.that all of us had to study and to work and to live and live in 27

:13:48. > :13:50.other member states. Do you want to come in, Charlie on this? It seems

:13:51. > :13:56.to me the referendum was a clear instruction by the British people to

:13:57. > :13:59.take back control of our borders and to end uncontrolled EU immigration

:14:00. > :14:03.and that's what this Government is doing. Everyone accepts that we want

:14:04. > :14:07.to have the brightest and the best from across the world. That's not

:14:08. > :14:12.the issue. The public concern centres on low skilled migrants,

:14:13. > :14:16.British businesses, not investing in their employees, but seeking to

:14:17. > :14:20.bring in low skilled migrants as a way to avoid that kind of

:14:21. > :14:23.investment. Some people say the EU referendum was about whether you

:14:24. > :14:26.wanted to stay in the Union, not about immigration. There was no

:14:27. > :14:30.question on that ballot paper that was about immigration. Your

:14:31. > :14:34.constituentsy in Dover is a constituency that's been affected a

:14:35. > :14:39.lot by migration and benefited a lot as well? It is important to realise

:14:40. > :14:43.that the change that we have in recent years in 1997 when Labour

:14:44. > :14:49.were first elected net migration was 48,000. In 2015, it reached 333,000.

:14:50. > :14:53.People are deeply concerned. They want a rebalancing. They want

:14:54. > :14:57.control of our borders and that is very clearly what the Home Office

:14:58. > :15:02.are rightly looking at doing. People didn't vote in the referendum to

:15:03. > :15:06.have nursing shortages. People didn't vote to have crops rotting in

:15:07. > :15:10.the fields because that's what will happen if we don't have people

:15:11. > :15:14.coming in from the EU to help the crop pickers. You know, so

:15:15. > :15:18.essentially I think what we're seeing here is an ideological

:15:19. > :15:21.approach, this idea that the referendum and Brexit has to be

:15:22. > :15:25.migration first even if that means damaging our economy. Even if that

:15:26. > :15:29.means our own businesses are saying they are going to suffer. The Office

:15:30. > :15:34.for Budget Responsibility are saying this could lead to a ?6 billion hole

:15:35. > :15:37.in the economy. Not only is it economically foolish, but it will

:15:38. > :15:40.harm our businesses and harm our societies, families not being able

:15:41. > :15:44.to come together. If you happen to have a child over 18, they are not

:15:45. > :15:45.allowed to join us anymore. That's not the kind of country that most

:15:46. > :15:57.people want to live in. This system is intended for the time

:15:58. > :16:00.after we leave. In terms of the sort of arrangements we have two bring

:16:01. > :16:06.people in perhaps the do seasonal agricultural work or other jobs,

:16:07. > :16:08.what will stop will be that automatic right to come in by

:16:09. > :16:13.exercising treaty rights and effectively staying here for as long

:16:14. > :16:18.as you like. That will stop. There's nothing wrong with that. Won't this

:16:19. > :16:23.cause a problem for businesses? Norman Smith mentioned earlier that

:16:24. > :16:26.if you are in Boston in Lincolnshire or parts of Kent, where fruit

:16:27. > :16:33.picking is a huge industry, and they can't get enough local workers to

:16:34. > :16:40.fill positions, will businesses have to recruit locally and when they

:16:41. > :16:47.can't recruit -- and when they can't, they have to recruit from the

:16:48. > :16:53.EU? Know, frankly. That is not the way it's going to happen. We had a

:16:54. > :16:56.seasonal agricultural workers scheme for many years and I don't see any

:16:57. > :16:59.reason why we shouldn't have something like that again. Nurses

:17:00. > :17:04.and all the other sort of people that we need at the moment, there is

:17:05. > :17:10.no reason why they shouldn't continue to come in. And frankly, we

:17:11. > :17:17.should now start thinking for three, four years hence and start preparing

:17:18. > :17:21.now. You can't wait for three years until the whole transitional phase

:17:22. > :17:24.ends and then think about how we will replace workers. The document

:17:25. > :17:29.fails to recognise that there are some sectors of the economy that are

:17:30. > :17:35.really relying on EU workers. Something like 11% in some sectors.

:17:36. > :17:39.Food processing, for instance, hospitality, the proportions are

:17:40. > :17:42.much higher. In food processing, we're talking about a third of

:17:43. > :17:47.workers being EU migrants. That is not just a question of transition

:17:48. > :17:51.but of having to manage how you have a proper workforce for that sector

:17:52. > :17:56.and the long-term. No one is saying that we shouldn't have a system that

:17:57. > :18:00.enables migrants to come to Britain to work where they are highly

:18:01. > :18:06.skilled, where it is seasonal or they are required. Why is it wrong

:18:07. > :18:11.to insist that the children of our land have a chance? It is important

:18:12. > :18:17.to enable people from Britain to get on, do well, and we get business to

:18:18. > :18:21.invest in skills and not simply seek to avoid having to invest by

:18:22. > :18:26.bringing in low skilled people, as they have done for too long. Thank

:18:27. > :18:29.you, all of you, for joining us, and Caroline Lucas as well. I'm sure the

:18:30. > :18:36.discussion will continue over the next months and years.

:18:37. > :18:40.Still to come: The final whistle for John Watson as he prepares to call

:18:41. > :18:42.time on his 50 years at the BBC. It's a disease that affects 1 in 10

:18:43. > :18:45.women of reproductive age. Yet on average it takes

:18:46. > :18:47.seven and a half years The condition costs the UK roughly

:18:48. > :18:56.?8.2 billion a year. Endometriosis is an incurable

:18:57. > :18:59.condition, where tissue that behaves like the lining of the womb is found

:19:00. > :19:03.in other parts of the body, Today, new guidelines have been

:19:04. > :19:11.published for the NHS, which aim to reduce delays

:19:12. > :19:14.in diagnosis and save women years But a leading charity says

:19:15. > :19:20.the guidelines will only make a difference if they're backed up

:19:21. > :19:23.with extra financial support. Let's speak to Amelia Davies -

:19:24. > :19:27.she's 18 and started getting symptoms of endometriosis

:19:28. > :19:29.at the age of just 12. Helen McLaughlin is here too -

:19:30. > :19:42.she's 32 and was diagnosed And Lakshmi Livingstone -

:19:43. > :19:45.who waited seven years for any treatment when her

:19:46. > :19:47.symptoms became severe. Emma Cox runs the charity

:19:48. > :19:49.Endometriosis UK - she's calling for the NHS to make

:19:50. > :19:52.sure the new guidelines And Andrew Home is a professor

:19:53. > :19:56.of gynaecology and is on the group of experts that helped draw up

:19:57. > :19:58.the new guidelines from the National Institute of Health

:19:59. > :20:08.and Care Excellence. Thank you, all, for coming in to

:20:09. > :20:14.talk to us. I think many people at home will have heard of

:20:15. > :20:24.endometriosis but they won't know how severe it can be for many

:20:25. > :20:28.people. Amelia, tell me, first of all, you were just... Sorry! You

:20:29. > :20:34.were 12 when you got symptoms first and you were diagnosed at 14. My

:20:35. > :20:39.first period was at 12 and I was experiencing pelvic pain before that

:20:40. > :20:43.age. It wasn't until I was 14 and got pain some excruciating that I

:20:44. > :20:48.couldn't attend school any more that we pushed for the initial scans

:20:49. > :20:57.which showed up an ovarian cyst, which led to my operation, which

:20:58. > :21:01.allowed the diagnosis of endometrial asses. Unlike some people, I was

:21:02. > :21:08.diagnosed quite quickly, but I was very lucky to have the cyst, because

:21:09. > :21:11.it led to the diagnosis. It sped up the process? Yes, I consider myself

:21:12. > :21:20.lucky, but unfortunately other people as fortunate. I was diagnosed

:21:21. > :21:23.in 2011. My symptoms started when I was 16, because I had a period every

:21:24. > :21:37.other week, but I was put on the pill. It was 2011 that I was

:21:38. > :21:44.misdiagnosed, and it was only because I wrote letters and kept

:21:45. > :21:53.diaries that I was able to get a diagnostic laparoscopy. What does it

:21:54. > :21:56.do to you? The physical aspect is one thing, but the mental aspect is

:21:57. > :22:02.exhausting. You are fighting every day to get through your painkillers.

:22:03. > :22:07.I was on 25 painkillers a day just to try and manage the symptoms. So

:22:08. > :22:12.you have that as well as going to consultants and making them believe

:22:13. > :22:16.you. It comes down to having to think about what you well, because

:22:17. > :22:22.you get bloating. Leggings, I couldn't wear jeans. I had to have

:22:23. > :22:27.physio to work on my muscles. It comes down to every aspect of your

:22:28. > :22:34.daily life. And I know that you, Amelia, alluded to the dreadful time

:22:35. > :22:39.you have had. Lakshmi, explain some of your story, if you would. I

:22:40. > :22:44.recently discovered I probably had symptoms from about the age of eight

:22:45. > :22:49.or nine, which was mostly sleep problems. Hormonal changes can cause

:22:50. > :22:54.problems with sleep, but my periods were incredibly painful. I started

:22:55. > :22:58.when I was 11. I didn't know that that wasn't normal, so I lived most

:22:59. > :23:01.of my life just thinking that those sort of pain levels were normal and

:23:02. > :23:11.acceptable. It was only when I started getting extreme bowel pain

:23:12. > :23:15.around 2009 that I finally thought, hang on, this is weird. It still

:23:16. > :23:19.took another six months for me to go to the doctor with it. My GP was

:23:20. > :23:23.fabulous. As soon as I mentioned my symptoms, he said, I am referring

:23:24. > :23:30.you to an endometriosis specialist. From there, I didn't have a

:23:31. > :23:34.diagnostic laparoscopy until to make years ago, at which point I was

:23:35. > :23:38.given the full diagnosis of how widespread my disease is. I was

:23:39. > :23:42.reading, you were told when you went to an endometrial is his clinic that

:23:43. > :23:51.you should stop eating meat and you were sent away. It was wheat. I was

:23:52. > :23:57.told to change my diet. I was given an MRI at that time. It wasn't until

:23:58. > :24:04.2014 that I realised that you cannot diagnose endometriosis with doing a

:24:05. > :24:08.laparoscopy, keyhole surgery. Going through your tummy, isn't it?

:24:09. > :24:14.Exactly, so that finally happened in 2015, and that is when I discovered

:24:15. > :24:18.it is not just in my uterus but has spread outside into my general

:24:19. > :24:22.pelvic area. Emma, I want to bring you in. How common are the stories

:24:23. > :24:30.we are heaving? Sadly, very common. There are some great examples -- we

:24:31. > :24:38.are hearing. There are some great examples of GPs getting a diagnosis

:24:39. > :24:41.early. It is caused by cells being in the wrong place, and in different

:24:42. > :24:45.women, there will be different symptoms. Sadly, the isn't enough

:24:46. > :24:48.awareness. It is about periods, and often people talk about it. A lot of

:24:49. > :24:53.women get told when they are young just to get on with it and that it

:24:54. > :24:59.is part of being a woman. Is a cultural, that no one wants to talk

:25:00. > :25:04.about it? There is some evidence that it is genetic, so you get a

:25:05. > :25:09.double whammy. You are told it hurts, love, just get on with it.

:25:10. > :25:13.Your mother might say, we have bad periods in our family. That is what

:25:14. > :25:17.is like. It is a hidden disease, there is no measure of it, and you

:25:18. > :25:23.can't show anybody what your pain is. So, it is really hard for

:25:24. > :25:27.people, and for whatever reason as a society we have not taken it

:25:28. > :25:32.seriously enough. We have this e-mail from money. If you have a

:25:33. > :25:36.similar story, do get in touch. I have stage for endometriosis and it

:25:37. > :25:39.has had a huge impact in my life. I was rushed to hospital and had

:25:40. > :25:45.emergency surgery. The doctors thought I had appendicitis. I was in

:25:46. > :25:50.intensive care for ten days. Due to the damage caused, I have cysts,

:25:51. > :25:55.fibroids, damaged fallopian tubes and I am definitely unable to have

:25:56. > :25:59.children. I am frustrated, sad and angry that if this disease affected

:26:00. > :26:02.men, there would be more awareness, research and money put behind the

:26:03. > :26:10.treatment. Would you agree with that, Andrew? Sadly, this is the

:26:11. > :26:15.problem. I think endometriosis is suffered because it only affects

:26:16. > :26:20.women. There has been a bit of a gender bias in terms of investment,

:26:21. > :26:25.research funding. I think these guidelines, and hopefully the

:26:26. > :26:27.awareness raised by them, will encourage increased Government

:26:28. > :26:32.funding, not only into research but into developing the infrastructure

:26:33. > :26:39.we have already to try to better manage women with endometriosis. A

:26:40. > :26:45.seven year diagnosis sounds insane, I'm sure, to many people watching.

:26:46. > :26:49.Do you think the medical profession takes this disease seriously enough?

:26:50. > :26:55.It would be unfair to say they didn't, but I think we could do

:26:56. > :26:58.better. I think we could do better educating from medical school

:26:59. > :27:01.onward, so that people are very much aware of it. As everyone here has

:27:02. > :27:06.highlighted, the big problem is that we don't have a simple test to

:27:07. > :27:22.diagnose it. There is not a blood test or you're in test. It has to be

:27:23. > :27:30.diagnosed by keyhole surgery. Do you think it is taken seriously as a

:27:31. > :27:35.condition? Personally, I believe that you can't point your finger and

:27:36. > :27:40.say, it is your fault it takes so long to diagnose it. It is a case of

:27:41. > :27:43.being educated. GPs and specialist, it is not essentially their fault

:27:44. > :27:51.that there's not enough research into it, so they don't know enough

:27:52. > :27:55.about it. Because of my age, and I started going to specialist

:27:56. > :27:58.appointments from the age of 14, and although I probably know more about

:27:59. > :28:06.this condition and my own body than anybody else, yet, I believe that

:28:07. > :28:11.sometimes it is as if people just speak to my parents about it. It

:28:12. > :28:16.needs to be taken a bit more seriously, because as a young woman,

:28:17. > :28:19.and like everyone else who has this condition, you want to take charge

:28:20. > :28:23.of your own body, to be able to actively step forward and say, look,

:28:24. > :28:28.something is wrong with me. You need to change this. I can't live my

:28:29. > :28:34.day-to-day life like this. Sometimes something simple like getting up and

:28:35. > :28:40.having a shower, you can't even get up and do it. It's ridiculous.

:28:41. > :28:43.Support groups have great information on their website. If

:28:44. > :28:48.anyone is trying to get information to make yourself more knowledgeable

:28:49. > :28:57.to go to your GP, you can then have discussions with them. I run the

:28:58. > :29:00.London group. It is a great way to empower yourself through knowledge.

:29:01. > :29:09.Do you think these guidelines will change anything? I hope so. From

:29:10. > :29:13.what I understand, Emma 's probably best answer... From a patient

:29:14. > :29:18.perspective, do you have more faith it will be taken? If you have

:29:19. > :29:22.someone who is not listening, you can take them with you, do your bit

:29:23. > :29:25.of caring and sharing, share your knowledge with this person. They

:29:26. > :29:29.might read it at night time and they might share it with someone the next

:29:30. > :29:34.day. It is all about education. I think there was an opportunity to

:29:35. > :29:43.make a difference. We could make it easy for GPs by giving them simple

:29:44. > :29:47.toolkits. The Royal College could be developing specialist training,

:29:48. > :29:49.which it is. We don't teach menstrual health in schools, so

:29:50. > :29:56.people don't know what to look out for. I would like to say that the

:29:57. > :30:00.guidelines at the moment are only for England. There was huge

:30:01. > :30:04.variation in service across England and across the UK, so we also need

:30:05. > :30:09.to see the other nations in the UK taking up these guidelines as well.

:30:10. > :30:15.In Northern Ireland, I know people who have been waiting over two years

:30:16. > :30:19.to get a laparoscopy done. That's not because of any reason other than

:30:20. > :30:22.that there are not enough slots allowed because the NHS hasn't yet

:30:23. > :30:27.taken this seriously and allowed enough time to deal with the women

:30:28. > :30:28.who need to be seen. Thank you, all, for coming in. I am grateful to you

:30:29. > :30:31.for coming in. A warning from school

:30:32. > :30:38.leaders that poor language and behaviour mean an increasing

:30:39. > :30:40.number of children are not ready to take part in classroom activities

:30:41. > :30:43.when they start school. As Hurricane Irma, one

:30:44. > :30:45.of the strongest storms ever recorded in the Atlantic,

:30:46. > :30:47.heads for the Caribbean we'll have an update

:30:48. > :30:51.on preparations from Antigua. With the news, here's Annita

:30:52. > :30:56.in the BBC Newsroom. A leaked Home Office document has

:30:57. > :30:59.set out plans for how the UK immigration system

:31:00. > :31:01.could work after Brexit. The paper, which has been published

:31:02. > :31:05.by the Guardian newspaper, considers how the Government

:31:06. > :31:07.could dramatically reduce the number It also proposes time limits

:31:08. > :31:12.on how long EU nationals The BBC understands the document,

:31:13. > :31:16.which was produced last month, Winds from Hurricane Irma have begun

:31:17. > :31:25.lashing islands in the Caribbean - where people have been told

:31:26. > :31:27.to evacuate their homes. Officials are warning

:31:28. > :31:31.of the "potentially catastrophic" effects of the Category Five

:31:32. > :31:34.hurricane which has already It's starting to hit

:31:35. > :31:39.the Leeward Islands and will move on towards Puerto Rico

:31:40. > :31:41.and the Dominican Republic. It's projected to reach the US state

:31:42. > :31:57.of Florida on Saturday. A boy has died after a shooting in

:31:58. > :32:04.East London. Corey Junior Davis and another boy,

:32:05. > :32:07.who is 17, were found with gunshot injuries in Forest Gate

:32:08. > :32:09.on Monday afternoon. The second victim is said to have

:32:10. > :32:11."life-changing injuries". Police have launched

:32:12. > :32:13.a murder investigation. The de facto leader of Myanmar,

:32:14. > :32:17.Aung San Suu Kyi, has claimed that the crisis in Rakhine state

:32:18. > :32:19.is being distorted by Myanmar is currently under intense

:32:20. > :32:22.diplomatic pressure to end the violence its security forces

:32:23. > :32:24.are reportedly inflicting Nearly 150,000 people have fled

:32:25. > :32:32.into neighbouring Bangladesh. That's a summary of the latest news,

:32:33. > :32:34.join me for BBC Newsroom 17-year-old Ben Woodburn came off

:32:35. > :32:48.the bench and put in a Man of the Match performance to help

:32:49. > :32:51.Wales to a 2-0 win over Moldova. He set-up the opening goal

:32:52. > :32:53.for Hal Robson Kanu. Aaron Ramsey got the second

:32:54. > :33:00.in the closing moments. That win, coupled with defeat

:33:01. > :33:03.for the Republic of Ireland at home to Serbia, means Wales go

:33:04. > :33:06.into the play-off spot in Group D The sides meet in

:33:07. > :33:11.the final group game. At the age of 37, Venus Williams is

:33:12. > :33:14.into another Grand Slam semi-final. She beat Petra Kvitova

:33:15. > :33:18.in a thrilling final set tiebreak to reach the last four at the

:33:19. > :33:26.US Open. She will face fellow

:33:27. > :33:28.American Sloane Stephens next. Chris Froome virtually

:33:29. > :33:30.doubled his lead at the Vuelta He won the 16th stage time trial

:33:31. > :33:34.to extend his lead over Vincenzo Neebali to one minute

:33:35. > :33:42.and 58 seconds with That's all the sport for now. I will

:33:43. > :33:46.be back with more on BBC News after 11am.

:33:47. > :33:49.A 14-year-old boy who was gunned down in an east London

:33:50. > :34:00.What happened? The details on this incident are scant, but the police

:34:01. > :34:04.launched a murder investigation. He died in hospital around 10pm last

:34:05. > :34:09.night. Apparently he, this was a double shooting. It happened on

:34:10. > :34:15.Monday afternoon. He was injured as was a 17-year-old who has got what

:34:16. > :34:19.police are describing as life changing injuries and he remains in

:34:20. > :34:23.hospital in a stable condition. No arrests have been made yet, but

:34:24. > :34:27.police are appealing for help. And what have the police said? What do

:34:28. > :34:33.they know? I know there is a fear of retaliation? The borough commander

:34:34. > :34:40.said there is a serious fear of retaliation and therefore, what they

:34:41. > :34:44.have done is they have put a number of armed and plained clothed police

:34:45. > :34:46.officers in the area and they have increased stop and search incidents

:34:47. > :34:55.for weapons and anything else that's going on in the area and to reassure

:34:56. > :34:59.residents as well. They are only too aware this incident comes after a

:35:00. > :35:01.spate of violent firearm discharges that have been blighting their

:35:02. > :35:07.communities and seriously injuring their young men. So far there has

:35:08. > :35:13.been a number of gun incidents in and around the Newham area. There

:35:14. > :35:18.was one even at the end of July that had been taking place in less than

:35:19. > :35:21.24 hours where two men were injured. But the concern with this particular

:35:22. > :35:25.incident is the violent nature under which it went and the age of the

:35:26. > :35:29.victim because he was only 14. Thank you.

:35:30. > :35:31.School leaders are warning that increasing numbers of children

:35:32. > :35:33.are not ready to take part in classroom activities

:35:34. > :35:42.Some are lacking basic communication skills.

:35:43. > :35:44.A survey carried out by the association for school

:35:45. > :35:49.leaders, NAHT, and the Family and Childcare Trust,

:35:50. > :35:51.found 86% of headteachers were concerned that children

:35:52. > :35:56.being ready for school is worse now than five years ago.

:35:57. > :35:58.Joining us now, Andy Mellor, Headteacher of St Nicholas Church

:35:59. > :36:01.of England Primary School, is concerned at the lack of services

:36:02. > :36:03.available to support families and children in need of extra help

:36:04. > :36:06.Lynn Knapp, Headteacher of Windmill Primary School thinks

:36:07. > :36:08.children using phones and gadgets isn't helping with

:36:09. > :36:16.Parent John Adams in concerned at the social skills

:36:17. > :36:23.He is joined by his four-year-old daughter Izzy who will start

:36:24. > :36:33.Hi Izzy. A lovely wave. Thank you very much. I want to ask first of

:36:34. > :36:39.all,anedy, when we say children aren't ready for school. We're

:36:40. > :36:42.talking about four-year-olds. Children who have just turned four.

:36:43. > :36:45.So what is it that they are not ready for? When children enter

:36:46. > :36:48.school we need to be making sure that we hit the ground running with

:36:49. > :36:51.them. They have got seven years in primary school. And we need to make

:36:52. > :36:58.the most of that time in primary school. Basic skills such as being

:36:59. > :37:04.able to take your coat off, basic things like having a conversation

:37:05. > :37:08.with another child. All the early literacy skills. I mean we do an

:37:09. > :37:12.audit with our families just to make sure that we know what we are

:37:13. > :37:17.getting in terms of the needs of these children. Basic literacy and

:37:18. > :37:22.basic understanding of what a book is, how to follow through the plot

:37:23. > :37:26.line if you like in a picture book. All those sorts of basic skills,

:37:27. > :37:32.particularly speech and language skills. We are seeing, our members

:37:33. > :37:36.are seeing, across the country, deceasing and us having to do more

:37:37. > :37:40.work in reception to actually make good that and then, of course, the

:37:41. > :37:43.work that we have got planned for foundation stage and beyond that

:37:44. > :37:47.into the National Curriculum, there is that to do as well. So, it's

:37:48. > :37:52.actually increasing the workload if you like for the staff in reception

:37:53. > :37:56.when these children really should be accessing the curriculum that we've

:37:57. > :37:59.got planned for them from day one. Lyn, are you finding similar things?

:38:00. > :38:02.Children don't recognise a book and can't hold a conversation with

:38:03. > :38:06.another child? Yes, we do see that with some children coming in. It is

:38:07. > :38:09.a broad picture. We have children coming in very ready for school.

:38:10. > :38:13.Other children coming in with very little language and I think it is

:38:14. > :38:17.that deficit of language which can be a real inhibitor for them

:38:18. > :38:24.starting to access education. You are saying this is down to, what

:38:25. > :38:28.lazy parenting, shoving a tablet or phone in front of a four-year-old

:38:29. > :38:35.and not having a conversation? Not necessarily lazy parenting. Parents

:38:36. > :38:38.are under pressure with both parents working particularly in Oxford, on

:38:39. > :38:43.the whole two parents are working. Yes, do I think children are given a

:38:44. > :38:47.tablet, a phone and in the last five years, those things weren't

:38:48. > :38:51.available. Children didn't have that easy access to smartphones, smart

:38:52. > :38:59.technology and I think it has opened up a whole new way of if you like

:39:00. > :39:02.keeping children occupied. It is a very isolating type activity then

:39:03. > :39:08.they are not conversing with other children in the home and that

:39:09. > :39:12.vocabulary and language just by being in conversation and talking to

:39:13. > :39:18.each other isn't happening. John, I know you have got an older daughter.

:39:19. > :39:22.Is she eight? Have you noticed that? That's the beginning of the iPad

:39:23. > :39:26.generation. My eldest is eight and she started playing with an iPad

:39:27. > :39:29.when she was two. Do you recognise what you are hearing from Lyn? Oh,

:39:30. > :39:35.absolutely. It is very interesting that we are at the end of the school

:39:36. > :39:38.summer. Izzy is saying hello. It is interesting that we are just at the

:39:39. > :39:43.end of the school summer holidays now. I have noticed a marked

:39:44. > :39:46.difference with my children. The battle for screen time used to be

:39:47. > :39:53.keeping your children away from cartoons. Now, partly because of

:39:54. > :39:58.the, the developments in technology, but also partly I think because, my

:39:59. > :40:02.other daughter is getting older, what they are trying to do with

:40:03. > :40:06.technology is different, it is not just car teens, it is apps, cartoons

:40:07. > :40:10.and YouTube videos as well as TV. One of the common battles that we

:40:11. > :40:14.have as parents is we do our best to tell our children not to watch TV,

:40:15. > :40:18.you turn your back for a minute, they are playing with an iPad or

:40:19. > :40:22.they have managed to get your phone or something. There is this constant

:40:23. > :40:30.battle to keep your kids away from screens. I do notice if my children,

:40:31. > :40:34.I really, really dislike children having excessive screen time so I

:40:35. > :40:40.limit it as much as I can, but if it has been a rainy day and the kids

:40:41. > :40:43.have a lot of screen time I notice a marked difference in their

:40:44. > :40:49.behaviour. Worse behaviour? They are not burning off energy. They are not

:40:50. > :40:59.really thinking so when the screens get switched off, I do notice they

:41:00. > :41:02.are much more excitable. They are bouncing off the walls, basically,

:41:03. > :41:06.we have experienced that on a rainy day. Do you think parents are being

:41:07. > :41:10.lazy? We can all say no, you can't have a tablet in the car. We will

:41:11. > :41:15.discuss as we are driving along or walking to the bus or whatever it

:41:16. > :41:22.maybe. Is this laziness? That's not what our survey is telling us. Our

:41:23. > :41:26.survey tells us that this coincides with a major change in the funding

:41:27. > :41:31.of things like children's centres. We lost a lot of those services for

:41:32. > :41:35.families in parts of the country, very similar to Blackpool, where you

:41:36. > :41:39.know, they need that level of support and that got cut with the

:41:40. > :41:45.first round of funding cuts to local authorities. Schools did their best

:41:46. > :41:48.to make that good and similarly, we have a family support worker in

:41:49. > :41:53.school. We didn't have a family support worker five years ago, but

:41:54. > :41:57.that's to meet a need, the needs of our family and our families in

:41:58. > :42:01.school. If we're now finding that, you know, the cuts to school budgets

:42:02. > :42:06.are now affecting the ability of schools to be able to fund family

:42:07. > :42:09.support workers. So we haven't just lost children's centres and all the

:42:10. > :42:13.wrap around care that went on before they came to school and supported

:42:14. > :42:16.families, we are now having that infrastructure that we have built in

:42:17. > :42:20.schools taken away because of the funding cuts to schools and speech

:42:21. > :42:24.and language is huge. You know, it comes through loud and clear in the

:42:25. > :42:28.survey. We've had to cut ?20,000 worth of speech and language therapy

:42:29. > :42:32.that we put in place to make good the cuts to the local authority.

:42:33. > :42:35.Now, we can't afford to do that anymore. We haven't got the money in

:42:36. > :42:39.the budget to do that. The only answer to address all of this is to

:42:40. > :42:43.put that support back in in the early years and support early years

:42:44. > :42:48.settings and schools with this. Andy, thank you. We have to ask Izzy

:42:49. > :42:52.if she is excited about school. Izzy, are you looking forward to

:42:53. > :42:57.starting school next week? Yes. What is it that you like best? Is it

:42:58. > :43:06.reading? Is it numbers? What is it, darling? Numbers. Numbers. She has

:43:07. > :43:12.just dived into a book while we have been on air though. Good girl. She

:43:13. > :43:13.has been drilled well by her father. Izzy, thank you for sitting so

:43:14. > :43:18.beautifully. Bye Izzy. Hurricane Irma has strengthened

:43:19. > :43:21.to a Category Five storm - the highest possible level and has

:43:22. > :43:24.in its path a string of Caribbean islands, Puerto Rico,

:43:25. > :43:32.Haiti, Cuba and then Florida. The National Hurricane Centre

:43:33. > :43:41.in Miami is recording sustained winds of nearly 300

:43:42. > :43:43.kilometres, more than 186mph. A state of emergency has been

:43:44. > :43:45.declared in Florida, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin

:43:46. > :43:52.Islands. I spoke with Gemma Handy,

:43:53. > :43:56.a journalist and resident of Antigua and Angel

:43:57. > :43:57.Adames-Corraliza, a tropical meteorologist with family

:43:58. > :44:00.in Puerto Rico who told me about the impact hurricane Irma has

:44:01. > :44:11.already been having. The winds are # 5 to 90mph. We can

:44:12. > :44:15.expect them to pick up to 150mph and hopefully they should start to

:44:16. > :44:19.lessen around 5am or 6am which is a couple of hours from now. We are

:44:20. > :44:24.getting reports that several roofs have sadly been blown off including

:44:25. > :44:28.an entire apartment building roof in one area of Antigua. Biggest cause

:44:29. > :44:34.of concern right now is we seem to have lost contact with our sister

:44:35. > :44:38.island. They are getting the full force of this right now. They are in

:44:39. > :44:43.the eye. That should be coming to a close soon and then they are going

:44:44. > :44:50.to get the 185mph winds happening again shortly. We will be grateful

:44:51. > :44:54.when we get news back. What's been the advice to people who are in

:44:55. > :44:58.Antigua? Are you sitting in your home, your office right now? No,

:44:59. > :45:03.we're broadcasting live from the local radio station. We have stuck

:45:04. > :45:06.two stations together. We have been broadcasting live for 12-and-a-half

:45:07. > :45:12.hours and taking calls from the public trying to reassure people and

:45:13. > :45:16.giving them constant weather updates from local metolgists and from our

:45:17. > :45:20.expert in Florida as well. Are people told to go to shelters or

:45:21. > :45:24.stay in their home, what's the advice been? If you are in a flood

:45:25. > :45:30.prone area, get out. Like no two-ways about it. And obviously

:45:31. > :45:33.those big storm surges are dramatic and I mean there has been strong

:45:34. > :45:38.encouragement, but people generally know because people are used to

:45:39. > :45:45.being in a hurricane area here, most people have gone to shelters. There

:45:46. > :45:49.is 43 across the islands and 42 in Antigua and 200 people are in some

:45:50. > :45:54.which for Antigua is unprecedented. I want to bring you in. You are a

:45:55. > :45:58.tropical meteorologist. I know you are in Seattle, but you have got

:45:59. > :46:02.family in Puerto Rico, who are concerned right now?

:46:03. > :46:06.What have they told you about the preparations

:46:07. > :46:09.When I talked to my family, friends and other

:46:10. > :46:10.people today, people are

:46:11. > :46:17.Hurricane Irma is pretty much unprecedented when it comes to

:46:18. > :46:25.There has been a bit of a freak out this

:46:26. > :46:28.morning, but that has been helpful in a sense because it has brought

:46:29. > :46:31.people to realise that they really have to get ready for this

:46:32. > :46:34.People have been putting storm shutters on their houses,

:46:35. > :46:38.Pretty much all the wooden panels have been sold out

:46:39. > :46:42.People have stocked up on supplies to the point that there

:46:43. > :46:46.is a shortage of food in supermarkets.

:46:47. > :46:48.People are heading to their homes, not going out on the

:46:49. > :46:54.People in flood prone areas are advised to go to shelter.

:46:55. > :46:56.I suspect that a lot of people will do

:46:57. > :47:04.At this point, in the middle of the night, in Puerto Rico, I

:47:05. > :47:07.suspect that people are waiting to see what is happening tomorrow

:47:08. > :47:12.People following the news in the last week will be familiar with

:47:13. > :47:19.Hurricane Harvey, but this is bigger, isn't it?

:47:20. > :47:21.It is a different situation from Harvey.

:47:22. > :47:23.Harvey was not a category five hurricane but a

:47:24. > :47:30.The big impact from Harvey was the fact that it slowed

:47:31. > :47:33.down and stayed stationary over Texas.

:47:34. > :47:39.Hurricane Irma is a different situation, in which we have a bigger

:47:40. > :47:50.size of storm with much stronger winds, and it is moving more

:47:51. > :47:53.quickly, so when it comes to impact, the impacts from Hurricane Irma

:47:54. > :47:56.But you will also possibly have a surge, and wind damage,

:47:57. > :48:04.especially for the areas directly in the part of the hurricane.

:48:05. > :48:08.People are using words like catastrophic -

:48:09. > :48:10.explain a storm surge and the impact it could have.

:48:11. > :48:25.It is a rise in the average sea level.

:48:26. > :48:30.Usually, at the beach, the ocean is at a certain distance from the shore

:48:31. > :48:34.and the houses and so on, but when you have a hurricane coming in, the

:48:35. > :48:43.wind tends to cause the water to rise. The number of feet you see

:48:44. > :48:51.forecasters is the number of feet above the average water level that

:48:52. > :48:57.we will see. This doesn't count waves, which will occur on top of

:48:58. > :49:01.that. Gemma, do you get a sense that people are worried about this like

:49:02. > :49:06.no other hurricane, that this is unprecedented? Yes, pretty much. As

:49:07. > :49:09.I say, people here are generally used to being in a hurricane area,

:49:10. > :49:16.but there is definitely a sense that this is like nothing they have ever

:49:17. > :49:21.experienced, and people have been comparing it to Hurricane Lewis. It

:49:22. > :49:27.is certainly dramatic. People here tend to take things in their stride

:49:28. > :49:32.quite well, so some people are calling in a little panicky, others

:49:33. > :49:36.are more gung ho about it. Some people have even been sharing

:49:37. > :49:40.light-hearted stories, so it is a mixture. You seem pretty relaxed.

:49:41. > :49:45.Give us a sense of what is going outside, for people who haven't

:49:46. > :49:51.experienced a hurricane. Can you hear building is moving? We're lucky

:49:52. > :49:56.because we are in a bit of a bunker at the station. It is a very sturdy,

:49:57. > :50:00.concrete building, and we are on a bit of a hill as well. Other people

:50:01. > :50:04.have reported their building physically shaking, saying they feel

:50:05. > :50:08.like the roof is coming off, very dramatic conditions. We feel a

:50:09. > :50:12.little sheltered from it here, and we are trying hard to keep other

:50:13. > :50:17.people come, so that is helping keep us come too. Angel, tell us what the

:50:18. > :50:22.path will be for Hurricane Irma over the next few hours. As a

:50:23. > :50:27.meteorologist, explain what that path will be. Right now, the

:50:28. > :50:34.hurricane has made up turn to the west north-west, which is what we

:50:35. > :50:38.were expecting. As it goes in the next couple of days, it will make a

:50:39. > :50:45.close approach to several of the islands of the Lesser Antilles. It

:50:46. > :50:51.will probably approach Puerto Rico at some point tomorrow. It should

:50:52. > :50:56.continue steadily in pretty much a straight path, West Northwest, at

:50:57. > :51:01.about 50 mph. And eventually to Florida? That is what the current

:51:02. > :51:10.forecast is calling. It could be at some point on Sunday. There is some

:51:11. > :51:13.uncertainty about that. There is a lack of consensus about different

:51:14. > :51:18.models. But the model agree that it will probably impact at some point

:51:19. > :51:25.over the weekend, yes. Personally, I you worried about your family in

:51:26. > :51:27.Puerto Rico? I can't say that I'm not, write? When I woke up this

:51:28. > :51:32.morning and I saw that Hurricane Irma had become a category five

:51:33. > :51:37.hurricane with 170 mph sustained winds, it's really hard to keep it

:51:38. > :51:41.together. I immediately called my family and saw how they were doing,

:51:42. > :51:47.if they were getting prepared. The current track forecasts that it will

:51:48. > :51:52.barely miss the island, so I am really crossing my fingers about

:51:53. > :51:55.that, because if that happens, at least the strongest winds will

:51:56. > :52:02.remain offshore. It does not mean it won't be a threat. There is the

:52:03. > :52:06.threat of tropical to hurricane force winds. I am still concerned

:52:07. > :52:09.about them. I told them I am going to call them tomorrow, and I've I

:52:10. > :52:14.think the situation will get worse, I will tell them to seek shelter.

:52:15. > :52:17.For now, they have put storm shutters on the house, they have

:52:18. > :52:21.readied the whole yard and everything, just to make sure that

:52:22. > :52:27.there isn't anything that could get in the way and damage our house.

:52:28. > :52:29.That was Gemma and Angel, speaking to me earlier about Hurricane Irma.

:52:30. > :52:35.Some of John Motson's greatest moments from his

:52:36. > :52:39.He's calling his final match at the end of the season.

:52:40. > :52:46.Before that though, he's been talking to our

:52:47. > :52:50.Dan asked him what the key to being able to commentate was.

:52:51. > :52:57.We will hear more from him in a moment, but first, some of his

:52:58. > :53:06.career highlights. Radford for Newcastle. Bradford again. Oh, what

:53:07. > :53:12.a goal! What they goal! Ronnie Radford. The crowd - the crowd are

:53:13. > :53:21.invading the pitch. And there it is will stop the crazy gang had beaten

:53:22. > :53:27.the culture club. Wimbledon have destroyed Liverpool's dreams of the

:53:28. > :53:38.double. Her Royal Highness supports one of the great cup shocks of all

:53:39. > :53:50.time. Platini through the middle... Goal! Platini, for Franz, with a

:53:51. > :53:56.minute to go. It is 3-2. I have not seen events like this in years.

:53:57. > :54:04.He cannot be shaken. In the end, the German bench get up to protest that

:54:05. > :54:08.Gascoigne's last challenge. Oh, dear. Oh, dear me. He's going to be

:54:09. > :54:15.out of the final if England get there. For the tackle on number 14,

:54:16. > :54:19.Gascoigne has had his second yellow card of the competition, and here is

:54:20. > :54:26.a moment that almost brings tears to his eyes.

:54:27. > :54:31.Free kick given. His arms are apt. Is it over? It is. It's dramatic,

:54:32. > :54:42.it's delightful. It's Denmark who are the European champions. He has

:54:43. > :54:43.been speaking to our sports editor, Dan, who asked them what is the

:54:44. > :54:46.secret to his commentary. It is like saying to your postman,

:54:47. > :54:49.how do you prepare the letters? People don't need to

:54:50. > :54:51.know that, do they? And people didn't need to know that

:54:52. > :54:55.I was spending two days in this office banging myself over the head

:54:56. > :54:58.with who the substitute was going They were only concerned

:54:59. > :55:02.with the end product, and I had to make that as good

:55:03. > :55:05.as I could. PRESENTER: If ever you thought

:55:06. > :55:09.that we sporting commentators always sit nicely warm in our commentary

:55:10. > :55:12.box, that is John Motson, reporting for us tonight on the Southend-

:55:13. > :55:14.Liverpool match, looking rather We are sending out a St

:55:15. > :55:19.Bernard to rescue him. The big breakthrough game

:55:20. > :55:22.for you was that big '72 cup match. Newcastle winning 1-0

:55:23. > :55:36.with five minutes to go. COMMENTATOR: Now Tudor has

:55:37. > :55:40.gone down for Newcastle. Whenever I meet Ronnie Radford,

:55:41. > :55:52.I say, you changed my life, Ronnie. And he said, that goal

:55:53. > :55:55.changed my career, which it did. And when they drag it out on cup

:55:56. > :55:58.weekend, and I hear myself commentating on that goal,

:55:59. > :56:01.and I remember when he hit it and it was flying

:56:02. > :56:05.towards the top corner of the net, and when I see it again,

:56:06. > :56:08.as I have hundreds of times, I still think to myself,

:56:09. > :56:13.please, go in, don't hit the post. If that hadn't nestled

:56:14. > :56:15.in the Newcastle net, I'm afraid that Mark West

:56:16. > :56:25.and Martin O'Neill are a few days longer if they're

:56:26. > :56:29.going to add another chapter to Wycombe's famous cup history,

:56:30. > :56:31.because as you can see, this part of Buckinghamshire

:56:32. > :56:33.is absolutely snowbound, and there is a gale hurtling

:56:34. > :56:35.around me now. The sheepskin coat has sort

:56:36. > :56:37.of entered folklore now. It is such a normal thing to do,

:56:38. > :56:42.to have a warm overcoat. Did you think at the time it

:56:43. > :56:45.could be your trademark? Because you couldn't buy

:56:46. > :56:49.a sheepskin full-length coat. It was only a jacket

:56:50. > :56:52.you could get in the shops. So I started having

:56:53. > :56:53.these made-to-measure. People started saying,

:56:54. > :56:56.you are the bloke in the sheepskin. Where were you when

:56:57. > :56:58.you were in the snow? I didn't set out to make that

:56:59. > :57:02.a trademark, honestly. We can't get down there to actually

:57:03. > :57:06.find out what has happened, but I think Trevor Brooking

:57:07. > :57:08.is next to me. I did my first-ever commentary

:57:09. > :57:14.for BBC television from this very gantry, and in those days,,

:57:15. > :57:17.nobody had heard of the internet, although I can vouch for the fact

:57:18. > :57:21.that I did say once upon a time, What do you think made you a great

:57:22. > :57:24.commentator, looking back now? I think you've got to be

:57:25. > :57:31.passionate about it. I also feel you've got to remember

:57:32. > :57:34.as well that it's only While people are listening

:57:35. > :57:38.to football matches or commentating on them, there are people

:57:39. > :57:40.going to the cinema, I think one or two people

:57:41. > :57:50.tend to forget that. I was going to say it was like being

:57:51. > :57:53.paid for your hobby. But there is a little bit

:57:54. > :57:57.of hard work involved. You know, the preparation

:57:58. > :58:00.and the homework, and watching players and going to see games

:58:01. > :58:03.so that you can do the one you were going to do next a bit

:58:04. > :58:06.better, it was a challenge, but it was a challenge

:58:07. > :58:14.that I always enjoyed. John Watson is going to end his 50

:58:15. > :58:20.year career with the Help's being arranged, love.

:58:21. > :58:38.Stay on the line with me. For a cardiac arrest we always

:58:39. > :58:43.send two, in case CPR's needed,