26/10/2017

0:00:07 > 0:00:10Good morning, it's Thursday, it's 9am, I'm Matt Barbet,

0:00:10 > 0:00:13welcome to the programme.

0:00:13 > 0:00:17People could be offered up to £1,000 a month to rent their spare rooms

0:00:17 > 0:00:19to those being discharged from hospital in a scheme

0:00:19 > 0:00:24being considered by the NHS.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27The Airbnb-style plan is aimed at tackling the chronic bed shortage

0:00:27 > 0:00:29in the health service.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32Thousands more families are needed to foster children and there is more

0:00:32 > 0:00:34pressure to find carers from different religious

0:00:34 > 0:00:36backgrounds than ever.

0:00:36 > 0:00:39We have a special report on the people who foster

0:00:39 > 0:00:41and the care leavers, as they share their

0:00:41 > 0:00:49experiences, good and bad.

0:00:49 > 0:00:54The principle of fostering which makes it a success is not because

0:00:54 > 0:00:58you put two together because they are the same religion, if you are

0:00:58 > 0:01:07foster care, you have to have it in new, nature, nurture, you have to

0:01:07 > 0:01:11look after this child, no matter what race, religion, but becomes

0:01:11 > 0:01:15secondary.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18And at 10, we are talking to former Towie stars, mum and daughter

0:01:18 > 0:01:19Debbie Douglas and Lydia Bright.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21The chat that goes with gaming can be offensive,

0:01:21 > 0:01:23intimidating, but is it just part of the territory?

0:01:23 > 0:01:25An anti-bullying charity says gamers and sports fans

0:01:25 > 0:01:28are amongst the worst offenders for their attitudes to mental health

0:01:28 > 0:01:30and the language they use around it.

0:01:30 > 0:01:31We are talking to a group of gamers in the next half hour.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41Hello.

0:01:41 > 0:01:50Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:01:50 > 0:01:56We are interested in what you think about the scheme of opening up

0:01:56 > 0:02:06people's homes to patients to free up beds in hospital. The latest on

0:02:06 > 0:02:10the Harvey Weinstein scandal.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning.

0:02:13 > 0:02:14Use the hashtag #Victorialive.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18And if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20NHS patients recovering after an operation could be moved

0:02:20 > 0:02:22from a hospital bed to a stranger's spare room under radical

0:02:22 > 0:02:24plans being considered by health trusts in Essex.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27Talks are at an early stage, but the company behind

0:02:27 > 0:02:30the idea has already started recruiting potential carers.

0:02:30 > 0:02:37Our correspondent, Alice Hutton, has been following the story.

0:02:37 > 0:02:42Good to see you. It is an intriguing idea. Certainly caught the eye of

0:02:42 > 0:02:45some of the newspapers. Tell us where it came from.This is about

0:02:45 > 0:02:51easing the problem of ad blocking, huge problem in NHS England, last

0:02:51 > 0:02:56year they lost 2.2 million beds through patients possibly through no

0:02:56 > 0:03:00fault of their own, not too sick to stay in hospital, but not quite well

0:03:00 > 0:03:04enough to go home if they had to live alone. And emergency services

0:03:04 > 0:03:09doctor in Essex has thought, why not ease the shortage by getting

0:03:09 > 0:03:14households who can provide a private room and bed and three meals a day

0:03:14 > 0:03:20to earn about £50 a day, £1000 a month, caring for them at home?

0:03:20 > 0:03:25Inevitably, a reaction which we will get in a second, very early days,

0:03:25 > 0:03:29this is still an idea, not happening at the moment.The pilot scheme has

0:03:29 > 0:03:34not even been signed off yet, they are hoping to have it in Essex of

0:03:34 > 0:03:38about 30 people and they are looking for carers at the moment. We have

0:03:38 > 0:03:44already heard voices who are anxious, including the Association

0:03:44 > 0:03:46of directors for adult social services, they have said they

0:03:46 > 0:03:50worried that if you put patients in the care of carers who are not

0:03:50 > 0:04:00professionals, they

0:04:02 > 0:04:05could be neglected or perhaps abused.We heard earlier in the week

0:04:05 > 0:04:07about better efficiency in the health services to do with operating

0:04:07 > 0:04:09times and operating theatres not being used well enough, busiest time

0:04:09 > 0:04:12of the year, winter, these ideas will crop up more, what has been the

0:04:12 > 0:04:14response from the health service? The health service have said today

0:04:14 > 0:04:16that while they welcome innovation, they think it is still a long way

0:04:16 > 0:04:20off. But it is worth noting that today the emergency admission

0:04:20 > 0:04:23figures came through and they said they are up by a fifth for the first

0:04:23 > 0:04:28time in five years which could be some people say down to a doctor is

0:04:28 > 0:04:34trying to clear beds too early. Thank you.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

0:04:36 > 0:04:39of the rest of the day's news.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41Good morning.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44More than 300,000 people are leaving the workforce every year

0:04:44 > 0:04:46because of insufficient support for mental health problems.

0:04:46 > 0:04:48A report, commissioned by the Government, says the human

0:04:48 > 0:04:51cost of this is huge and that the loss to

0:04:51 > 0:04:54the economy runs into tens of billions of pounds.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57Now the Prime Minister has instructed the NHS and the civil

0:04:57 > 0:05:00service to do more to help promote the mental wellbeing of their staff,

0:05:00 > 0:05:03as Rob Sissons reports.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05At this insurance company, they are proud of their record

0:05:05 > 0:05:06of supporting workers.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10Today's report recommends more places should be like this.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13Aviva in Sheffield says it's tried to change the way people think

0:05:13 > 0:05:15about mental health, training managers and

0:05:15 > 0:05:18encouraging openness.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21James Tringham has a history of mental health problems,

0:05:21 > 0:05:24something the firm was aware of when they took him on.

0:05:24 > 0:05:29When I started working here, I was terrified.

0:05:29 > 0:05:35I had to be coaxed in and the support team that

0:05:35 > 0:05:39were training me at this stage weren't sure if I'd make it

0:05:39 > 0:05:42through or not, although they could see that there was potential there.

0:05:42 > 0:05:43And work has a great benefit.

0:05:43 > 0:05:46It has a normalising effect.

0:05:46 > 0:05:49The government-ordered review which covers the whole of UK

0:05:49 > 0:05:53suggests what is being held up as good practice is yet to catch on.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56It concludes poor mental health costs businesses £42 billion

0:05:56 > 0:05:58a year in lost work days and low productivity.

0:05:58 > 0:06:08The costs to the UK economy is put even higher at £99 billion.

0:06:09 > 0:06:11That takes in NHS costs of caring for people,

0:06:11 > 0:06:13the payment of benefits and lost taxes.

0:06:13 > 0:06:17The Government says it welcomes the report and says big employers

0:06:17 > 0:06:19like NHS England and the civil service, who have two million

0:06:19 > 0:06:21workers, will now be guaranteed tailored in-house

0:06:21 > 0:06:24mental health support.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26And it will encourage small businesses to implement

0:06:26 > 0:06:27the recommendations.

0:06:27 > 0:06:31Rob Sissons, BBC News.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34Polls have opened in Kenya for the re-run of the disputed

0:06:34 > 0:06:40presidential election, which is being boycotted by the main

0:06:40 > 0:06:41opposition.

0:06:41 > 0:06:43President Uhuru Kenyatta won the August election

0:06:43 > 0:06:45by 1.4 million votes, but the Supreme Court annulled

0:06:45 > 0:06:49the election, citing irregularities.

0:06:49 > 0:06:52The numbers of disadvantaged pupils gaining places at top universities

0:06:52 > 0:06:59could be significantly raised if entry requirements for those

0:06:59 > 0:07:01students were lowered by two grades, according to research.

0:07:01 > 0:07:06A study by the Sutton Trust showed that if a student's background

0:07:06 > 0:07:09is taken into account when making offers, what it calls

0:07:09 > 0:07:12contextual admissions, the numbers of students from less

0:07:12 > 0:07:15well off families could rise by 50 % at those universities.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18Youth workers have been told they should consider monitoring

0:07:18 > 0:07:20the social media used by young people who are at risk

0:07:20 > 0:07:23of being involved in crime.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25The recommendation's been made by Her Majesty's Inspectorate

0:07:25 > 0:07:28of Probation, which has warned that a quarter of the crimes it

0:07:28 > 0:07:33studied were directly linked to social media.

0:07:33 > 0:07:38Here's our Home Affairs Correspondent, Tom Symonds.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42Violent crime is increasing after years of decline. This report

0:07:42 > 0:07:46reveals increasingly the way young people communicate is making the

0:07:46 > 0:07:50problem worse. Aggressive messages online have resulted in physical

0:07:50 > 0:07:54assaults on the streets. Gangs make videos which can raise tensions with

0:07:54 > 0:07:59rivals. Social media is used to blackmail and intimidate, especially

0:07:59 > 0:08:04sexually. Out of more than 100 cases, studied by the inspectors,

0:08:04 > 0:08:07one in four were directly linked to something put on social media. The

0:08:07 > 0:08:19report concludes... The internet is not the only trigger. Three out of

0:08:19 > 0:08:23four involved in youth crime had suffered some sort of previous

0:08:23 > 0:08:29emotional trauma, making it more likely they would offend.We found a

0:08:29 > 0:08:32range of things, sometimes simple exchanges could escalate into

0:08:32 > 0:08:35violence when people met, particularly if there is a knife

0:08:35 > 0:08:43involved. People were using social media to plan crime. And sometimes

0:08:43 > 0:08:48people were using social media to commit crime, soap, for example,

0:08:48 > 0:08:52blackmailing people who put unfortunate images of themselves on

0:08:52 > 0:08:56that media.Youth offending teams struggle to keep up with the jargon

0:08:56 > 0:09:00used online. As one youth worker put it, they used to hang around on

0:09:00 > 0:09:03street corners, now they get into arguments or plan offences on the

0:09:03 > 0:09:07internet.

0:09:07 > 0:09:08Another woman has accused the Hollywood producer,

0:09:08 > 0:09:10Harvey Weinstein, of raping her.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14The Norwegian actress Natassia Malthe said

0:09:14 > 0:09:17he assaulted her after the Bafta Awards ceremony in 2008.

0:09:17 > 0:09:23Mr Weinstein insists all his sexual relations were consensual.

0:09:23 > 0:09:27Meanwhile, the BBC understands that the Government's

0:09:27 > 0:09:28Honours Forfeiture Committee is actively considering removing

0:09:28 > 0:09:33the producer's CBE.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36A car designed to travel at up to 1,000 miles an hour will make

0:09:36 > 0:09:41its first public runs later today.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44The British designed Bloodhound will be conducting trials

0:09:44 > 0:09:46at a mere 200 miles an hour in Cornwall ahead of

0:09:46 > 0:09:52an attempt to break the land speed record in 2019.

0:09:52 > 0:09:58Just a little Sunday drive today then! That is a summary of the

0:09:58 > 0:10:03latest BBC News. More at 9:30am. We are discussing loads of stories

0:10:03 > 0:10:08including this one about interracial foster care, with a shortage of

0:10:08 > 0:10:11foster carers in the country, more people need to do that and perhaps

0:10:11 > 0:10:16kids will be placed with those of a different background or faith.

0:10:16 > 0:10:21Plenty of tweets on this. One says, a lovely story about interracial

0:10:21 > 0:10:26foster care but I am angry the integrity and trust of UK Muslim

0:10:26 > 0:10:29foster parents has even been questioned. Another says, these

0:10:29 > 0:10:33assumptions are clear indication of the lack of faith education in

0:10:33 > 0:10:37schools, essential to learn and understand. Patrick has tweeted, it

0:10:37 > 0:10:42does not just depend... It does not depend on the religion, it depends

0:10:42 > 0:10:49on foster parents and how they will care for the kids.

0:10:49 > 0:10:53Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

0:10:53 > 0:10:56use the hashtag Victoria live and if you text, you will be charged

0:10:56 > 0:10:57at the standard network rate.

0:10:57 > 0:10:59Let's get some sport with Katherine.

0:10:59 > 0:11:01England's women haven't had the best start to the Ashes series,

0:11:01 > 0:11:03and they have their work cut out again today.

0:11:03 > 0:11:04What's the latest?

0:11:04 > 0:11:08It is not looking good for England again. Already done the series after

0:11:08 > 0:11:13losing the first ODI, set a record run chase if they want to level the

0:11:13 > 0:11:16series in the second, but it has looked like they might be saved by

0:11:16 > 0:11:20the weather. Not looking great in Australia. England have started the

0:11:20 > 0:11:25innings badly. Australia made the start, progress briefly halted by

0:11:25 > 0:11:29the fine catching from the captain Heather Knight. That brought the

0:11:29 > 0:11:35Australian skipper took the crease and she smashed 89 from 56 balls. A

0:11:35 > 0:11:42terrible start to the reply from England. Out, third ball. England

0:11:42 > 0:11:473-1 after an over. Not looking good for England in the second ODI of the

0:11:47 > 0:11:53Ashes Series.Spurs have been on fantastic form, getting a result

0:11:53 > 0:11:58against real Madrid, Liverpool. Last night, it was all about West Ham.It

0:11:58 > 0:12:03was. Finally, good news for West Ham fans after miserable form in the

0:12:03 > 0:12:07league, hovering just above the relegation zone. Maybe the League

0:12:07 > 0:12:13Cup will be their salvation. They came back from 2-0 to beat Tottenham

0:12:13 > 0:12:213-2 in the League Cup. Two goals down, Moussa Sissoko scored for

0:12:21 > 0:12:25Tottenham after five minutes. Dele Alli with the second. But West Ham

0:12:25 > 0:12:34turned it around, three goals. Slaven Bilic celebrating the result.

0:12:34 > 0:12:39Giving Mauricio Pochettino a big hug. Slaven Bilic is under huge

0:12:39 > 0:12:44pressure after their league form, but he said his side reacted in the

0:12:44 > 0:12:49most brilliant way. A glimmer of light the West Ham. In the other

0:12:49 > 0:12:53League Cup match last night, Chelsea beat Everton who sacked their

0:12:53 > 0:12:57manager Ronald Koeman earlier this week, 2-1 the score, Chelsea beating

0:12:57 > 0:13:05Everton.I do not play golf, but I certainly understand the value of a

0:13:05 > 0:13:07hole in one. Two parameters in Berkshire Hathaway managed an even

0:13:07 > 0:13:14more incredible feat.-- amateurs. I have never managed a hole in one! It

0:13:14 > 0:13:18is a combination of skill, luck, being in the right place at the

0:13:18 > 0:13:23right time. What are the chances... I am about to tell you! Two

0:13:23 > 0:13:29consecutive holes in one. Never previously played together, they

0:13:29 > 0:13:36play in Berkshire, on the 13th, one hit a hole in one, celebrations,

0:13:36 > 0:13:41then the other one steps up to the tee and she hits a hole in one too.

0:13:41 > 0:13:45According to the national hole in one registry, who knew that existed?

0:13:45 > 0:13:54The chances of hitting two consecutive holes in one in the same

0:13:54 > 0:13:58round of 70 million to one. Completely amazed I have got a hole

0:13:58 > 0:14:04in one before it dawned on us we had both done it and that must be pretty

0:14:04 > 0:14:09rare.It was so exciting. We did high fives, probably a little dance,

0:14:09 > 0:14:14I cannot remember, so lovely.I imagine an astronomical drinks bill.

0:14:14 > 0:14:18Tradition is, after you have scored a hole in one, you have to buy a

0:14:18 > 0:14:25drink for everyone in the clubhouse. Two drinks for everyone!I'm amazed

0:14:25 > 0:14:28they never played together before, they will have to play together from

0:14:28 > 0:14:33now on, so good.Firm friends for life after the stroke of luck, I am

0:14:33 > 0:14:39sure.Thanks. See you later.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42You may remember the recent row that hit the headlines, about a little

0:14:42 > 0:14:45girl who was originally reported to have been removed

0:14:45 > 0:14:47from her Christian mother and placed with Muslim foster carers.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49The story turned out not to be what it first seemed,

0:14:49 > 0:14:52but it still highlighted the fact that it's not unusual for children

0:14:52 > 0:14:55in care to be moved to new foster carers dozens of times

0:14:55 > 0:14:57in their childhood, often living with people

0:14:57 > 0:15:03from different backgrounds.

0:15:03 > 0:15:05The UK's leading charity in the area, the Fostering

0:15:05 > 0:15:07Network, has recently launched a project to recruit more

0:15:07 > 0:15:08Muslim foster carers.

0:15:08 > 0:15:11They say that thousands more foster families are needed each year,

0:15:11 > 0:15:14with a need for foster carers from all sectors of

0:15:14 > 0:15:15society, including from the Muslim community.

0:15:15 > 0:15:18Our reporter, Ashley John-Baptiste, has been to meet some foster carers

0:15:18 > 0:15:20and care leavers who have been sharing their own,

0:15:20 > 0:15:24varied experiences.

0:15:24 > 0:15:28The story of a child who was removed from her Christian mother and placed

0:15:28 > 0:15:36with Muslim foster carers recently gained significant media attention.

0:15:36 > 0:15:38The Government say interracial and interfaith fostering

0:15:38 > 0:15:40should be a last resort, but for some councils,

0:15:40 > 0:15:44it's a choice between leaving a child in a care home or moving

0:15:44 > 0:15:46them to a different family.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49We've been to meet some of those families.

0:15:49 > 0:15:53I was talking to one of my friends on Facebook and he was like,

0:15:53 > 0:15:59"So where are you living?"

0:15:59 > 0:16:01I was like, with my family, and he was like, "You're

0:16:01 > 0:16:03living with terrorists."

0:16:03 > 0:16:08I was like, excuse me.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10The first family I lived with, they were an Indian family

0:16:10 > 0:16:12and they were Muslim as well.

0:16:12 > 0:16:14It was just a massive culture shock because my mum's white.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16Over 72,000 children in the UK are in care.

0:16:16 > 0:16:20According to latest figures, over 53,000 of these are fostered.

0:16:20 > 0:16:25We've come to Nottingham to meet an interracial foster family,

0:16:25 > 0:16:29the carers are Pakistani Muslim.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32They look after 18-year-old Rebecca, who is white British and doesn't

0:16:32 > 0:16:37hold a religious faith.

0:16:37 > 0:16:40Rebecca was fostered by the Arshad family six years

0:16:40 > 0:16:42ago, when she was 12.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46Having just turned 18, she's now a care leaver,

0:16:46 > 0:16:51but continues to live with the family under

0:16:51 > 0:16:54an arrangement called 'staying put'.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56Legislation that allows care leavers to stay with their foster parents

0:16:56 > 0:17:00if both parties agree to it.

0:17:00 > 0:17:08We're looking after one Afghani boy, one African girl from Kenya.

0:17:08 > 0:17:18Rebecca has just moved out of the foster carer.

0:17:19 > 0:17:23Now she is staying with us under 'staying put'.

0:17:23 > 0:17:25Rebecca, why have you chosen to stay with this family?

0:17:25 > 0:17:27I'm literally a part of the family.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29If I had left, I wouldn't have anyone else to call family.

0:17:29 > 0:17:31What does this family mean to you?

0:17:31 > 0:17:32Everything.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34Literally everything.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36As Rebecca can tell you, she considers us as her family

0:17:36 > 0:17:40and she wants to continue to stay with us for the rest of her life.

0:17:40 > 0:17:41You are obviously white British.

0:17:41 > 0:17:42Yes.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44And you're not a Muslim.

0:17:44 > 0:17:51Were there any cultural changes moving into this home?

0:17:51 > 0:17:53I'm not a spicy person, so a lot of the food,

0:17:53 > 0:17:55they have to make it so mild.

0:17:55 > 0:18:00So obviously, they make separate dishes.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02Religion-wise, obviously, there's certain things

0:18:02 > 0:18:04you need to know about it, like you can't walk in front

0:18:04 > 0:18:06of someone if they're praying.

0:18:06 > 0:18:10I didn't know that when I first came in, but you told me.

0:18:10 > 0:18:13At my old foster carers, we used to go away a lot

0:18:13 > 0:18:15so I was used to adopting to different cultures

0:18:15 > 0:18:20from different countries.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22Actually living in it on a regular basis, I think

0:18:22 > 0:18:24was kind of like a hard bit.

0:18:24 > 0:18:25Mum and dad pray.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27You call them mum and dad?

0:18:27 > 0:18:32Yeah, I've always called them mum and dad.

0:18:32 > 0:18:34After three months, she decided to call us mum and dad.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36She says, "Can I stay, please?"

0:18:36 > 0:18:39We feel like she's our daughter, yeah.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41I have children from my previous marriage.

0:18:41 > 0:18:43He has got children from his previous marriage

0:18:43 > 0:18:45and she is our child.

0:18:45 > 0:18:52Have you ever wanted to see Rebecca become a Muslim?

0:18:52 > 0:18:57We've discussed it with her, how she would feel, but we never

0:18:57 > 0:18:59imposed saying, Rebecca you should become a Muslim because

0:18:59 > 0:19:00you're in our household.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03Rebecca has got her own identity.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05Rebecca is going to be Rebecca.

0:19:05 > 0:19:07And it's like the clothes,

0:19:07 > 0:19:09the dress, the food, the religion is significant

0:19:09 > 0:19:13to individual choice.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17We celebrate every culture and religion in this household

0:19:17 > 0:19:25and we also celebrate Christmas because it's the holiday

0:19:25 > 0:19:27and all the family gets together, it's festival time,

0:19:27 > 0:19:34but when Rebecca came along, the first Christmas she had with us,

0:19:34 > 0:19:37we bought a Christmas tree, but we haven't done that before.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40I asked Rebecca, do you want a Christmas tree?

0:19:40 > 0:19:43She goes, don't buy a real one, just get me a little artificial one

0:19:43 > 0:19:47and she wanted a pink one.

0:19:47 > 0:19:51I think the principle of fostering and which makes a success is not

0:19:51 > 0:19:53because you put two together who are the same religion,

0:19:53 > 0:19:56the same religion people could have problems as well.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59If you're a foster carer, you've got to have within

0:19:59 > 0:20:01you the nurture nature.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04You've got to look after this child regardless of race, religion -

0:20:04 > 0:20:13that comes secondary.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16First is, you have got to love that child and protect them

0:20:16 > 0:20:18and got to make them safe and secure.

0:20:18 > 0:20:20Do you think that Muslim foster carers

0:20:20 > 0:20:21are stigmatised in our society?

0:20:21 > 0:20:24They are because if the girl goes in a Muslim household,

0:20:24 > 0:20:25she is going to forget her identity.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28She is going to forget her religion and forget her culture

0:20:28 > 0:20:31and she is going to wear a hijab when she walks out.

0:20:31 > 0:20:32People normally stereotype that.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34A lot people, a lot of white people question, oh,

0:20:34 > 0:20:36is she going to become one of you?

0:20:36 > 0:20:38Is she going to have an arranged marriage?

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Is she going to do this?

0:20:40 > 0:20:42No, she is a child with her own identity.

0:20:42 > 0:20:47We are her parents and that does not mean we control her life.

0:20:47 > 0:20:55When I first went to Pakistan, I was talking to one of my friends

0:20:55 > 0:21:01on Facebook and he was like, "What are you doing?"

0:21:01 > 0:21:02And I was, oh, I'm on holiday.

0:21:02 > 0:21:04Where are you?

0:21:04 > 0:21:05I was like, Pakistan.

0:21:05 > 0:21:08So where are you living?

0:21:08 > 0:21:12I was with my family.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15And he said, you're living with terrorists.

0:21:15 > 0:21:21I was like, excuse me?

0:21:21 > 0:21:25When I tell them I'm in a Muslim family, they will start making

0:21:25 > 0:21:26sudden assumptions like...

0:21:26 > 0:21:30They haven't said it to me directly, but they've said it behind my back,

0:21:30 > 0:21:32"Ah, I bet her parents have got explosives or bombs or whatever

0:21:32 > 0:21:35in their house!, and I'm just like, I live there.

0:21:35 > 0:21:39In my spare time, I don't like, I don't learn how to make a bomb.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41I live in a family, as any other person would.

0:21:41 > 0:21:44It makes us feel hurt sometimes because we're trying to give this

0:21:44 > 0:21:45child the best care of the world.

0:21:45 > 0:21:47The Government doesn't have figures on how many

0:21:47 > 0:21:49interracial placements exist.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51We do know, however, that last year saw a rise

0:21:51 > 0:21:58in the number of children in care from ethnic minority backgrounds.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00And whilst it's estimated that 3,000 Muslim children are put

0:22:00 > 0:22:03into foster care every year, only a quarter of long-term foster

0:22:03 > 0:22:05carers are from an ethnic minority.

0:22:05 > 0:22:06We understand what God wants us to do.

0:22:06 > 0:22:11We understand who God is and how he feels about us.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14Krish Kandiah is a Christian theologian who has fostered children

0:22:14 > 0:22:16from a broad range of religious and cultural backgrounds.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20He currently has three foster children.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23We pray that you'd open our eyes to those that are in need

0:22:23 > 0:22:24around us every day.

0:22:24 > 0:22:31We started fostering 11 years ago.

0:22:31 > 0:22:33We had three birth kids already and, to be honest,

0:22:33 > 0:22:35I was a little bit reticent about getting started.

0:22:35 > 0:22:38Just reading the Bible, it has so much to say about God's

0:22:38 > 0:22:40concern for vulnerable people.

0:22:40 > 0:22:44And in our society, kids in care have often come

0:22:44 > 0:22:47from very a vulnerable context.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50If your religious faith is a key motivator for you being a foster

0:22:50 > 0:22:52carer, how do you then not enforce your faith on the foster

0:22:52 > 0:22:56kids that you look after?

0:22:56 > 0:22:59The important thing for me as a foster parent - and we have

0:22:59 > 0:23:03looked after children who have Christian faiths, some

0:23:03 > 0:23:05have no faith, some came from Muslim backgrounds -

0:23:05 > 0:23:07I guess it is a principle of reciprocity.

0:23:07 > 0:23:11I would like to think if my children had to be in care for some reason,

0:23:11 > 0:23:13their faith would be respected and they would be allowed to go

0:23:13 > 0:23:16to church, they would be allowed to read the Bible or pray

0:23:16 > 0:23:17as they saw fit.

0:23:17 > 0:23:21So when kids come into my care, I want to offer that same kind

0:23:21 > 0:23:27of care to the parents and the children that are in my care.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30So when Muslim children have come into my household, I have asked

0:23:30 > 0:23:39through the social workers, what does being Muslim mean for you?

0:23:39 > 0:23:46How can we honour that, how can we show hospitality for that?

0:23:46 > 0:23:48So sometimes that's meant we've had halal food,

0:23:48 > 0:23:51or sometimes we have been vegetarians because we couldn't get

0:23:51 > 0:23:53hold of the food that would be halal.

0:23:53 > 0:23:56Sometimes that meant making a Koran available to a child or offering

0:23:56 > 0:23:57to take them to a mosque.

0:23:57 > 0:24:01So I would hope that what I do for these children would be the same

0:24:01 > 0:24:04as what someone would do for my kids in a similar circumstance.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06One time, four children came in a police van at 2am

0:24:06 > 0:24:09in the morning and two lovely police officers came and kind of helped

0:24:09 > 0:24:11them get into our house and we knew immediately

0:24:11 > 0:24:14that they were from a Muslim background because the little girl

0:24:14 > 0:24:15had a head covering.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18Did you feel ill-equipped to meet the religious, the cultural

0:24:18 > 0:24:19needs of those children?

0:24:19 > 0:24:22At that moment, in my lounge at 2am, these children just need to know

0:24:22 > 0:24:23they are safe and secure.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25We want to offer them some hospitality.

0:24:25 > 0:24:28We got milk and cookies.

0:24:28 > 0:24:31And that's the most important thing.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33And then we had a little bit of time

0:24:33 > 0:24:36until the next morning to kind of figure out,

0:24:36 > 0:24:37OK, what does this mean?

0:24:37 > 0:24:38How do we make this work?

0:24:38 > 0:24:41I'm sure you have come across recent headlines about the Christian girl

0:24:41 > 0:24:44in Tower Hamlets who was put in the care of Muslim

0:24:44 > 0:24:45foster parents.

0:24:45 > 0:24:47How do you think that story has informed the public's

0:24:47 > 0:24:49view of interracial and interfaith foster care?

0:24:49 > 0:24:56I think it's had quite negative ramifications.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58I have met fantastic Muslim foster carers who have made space

0:24:58 > 0:24:59for Christian children or Muslim children.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03Despite the rise in the number of children in care from ethnic

0:25:03 > 0:25:04minority backgrounds, latest figures show that

0:25:04 > 0:25:0884% of long-term foster carers are white British.

0:25:08 > 0:25:11I just think we need to do better at making all types of carers

0:25:11 > 0:25:14welcoming to the system and we do need more Muslim carers.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16We need more people from black and ethnic minority backgrounds.

0:25:16 > 0:25:18We need more Christians, there is a deficit of

0:25:18 > 0:25:23carers across the UK.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25What does it take to make an interracial

0:25:25 > 0:25:27foster placement work?

0:25:27 > 0:25:33You just need to think your way into their shoes and emphasise

0:25:33 > 0:25:36as best you can, and try and imagine what this trauma feels like and then

0:25:36 > 0:25:38find a way to kind of meet that.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41I think if foster carers were able to receive more training on becoming

0:25:41 > 0:25:47faith literate, I think that would be a great gift.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52Jerome is a 26-year-old care leaver who was put in care at the age

0:25:52 > 0:25:54of four and recalls the strong cultural barriers in

0:25:54 > 0:25:58his first foster home.

0:25:58 > 0:26:00The first family I lived with, they were an Indian family

0:26:00 > 0:26:07and they were Muslim as well and it was just a massive culture

0:26:07 > 0:26:16shock because my mum is white and they were

0:26:16 > 0:26:19shock because my mum is white and they were Asian,

0:26:19 > 0:26:21and it was like, OK, what's going on here, in a sense?

0:26:21 > 0:26:25So, the first thing that stood out for me really was the food.

0:26:25 > 0:26:27We didn't like the food because we didn't recognise it.

0:26:27 > 0:26:31We were used to what my mum used to cook, like corned beef and rice

0:26:31 > 0:26:38and English breakfast, and that just disappeared.

0:26:38 > 0:26:41They would cook like what they call biryani, which is rice with chicken

0:26:41 > 0:26:44and chapatis and different curries and things like that, but the stuff

0:26:44 > 0:26:49that I didn't recognise it, so we didn't eat it.

0:26:49 > 0:26:53But eventually, over time, there was little things we ate,

0:26:53 > 0:26:57but they kind of forced us to eat it basically.

0:26:57 > 0:26:59And so, it got to the point where they would just

0:26:59 > 0:27:00give us jam sandwiches.

0:27:00 > 0:27:02To be fair, they lost us.

0:27:02 > 0:27:05Your carer's job is to find you, but they actually lost us as kids

0:27:05 > 0:27:08because they weren't interested in who we were before we got there.

0:27:08 > 0:27:09So...

0:27:09 > 0:27:11So they didn't take time to understand your background,

0:27:11 > 0:27:12your cultural identity?

0:27:12 > 0:27:13Not at all.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15Not at all, if anything, they damaged us further

0:27:15 > 0:27:19because they didn't want to understand.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23So, one, they didn't want us to understand who we were,

0:27:23 > 0:27:26but at the same time, they also excluded us from who they were.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29We would watch them pray, but not really understand

0:27:29 > 0:27:31why they're doing it or what it is and just copy.

0:27:31 > 0:27:34We would model it and copy it, but we didn't understand

0:27:34 > 0:27:35any of the process.

0:27:35 > 0:27:37We weren't brought into their family unit.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40They weren't given the right training to understand that.

0:27:40 > 0:27:44Children come with an identity and your job is to help to help them

0:27:44 > 0:27:46to understand who they are, but also, you can introduce them

0:27:46 > 0:27:50to your cultural identity.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53And the way we were treated, we were like second-class citizens.

0:27:53 > 0:27:56I mean, I used to cry myself to sleep and always wished

0:27:56 > 0:27:58to be away from there.

0:27:58 > 0:28:01The Fostering Network, a leading charity in foster care,

0:28:01 > 0:28:04says thousands more carers are needed each year

0:28:04 > 0:28:07from all sectors of society.

0:28:07 > 0:28:10And despite Jerome's experience, they recognise the need for more

0:28:10 > 0:28:11Muslim foster parents.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14They have recently launched a project to recruit more of them.

0:28:14 > 0:28:21Have a conversation with them.

0:28:26 > 0:28:27Who said that?

0:28:27 > 0:28:32Not me.

0:28:32 > 0:28:35What would you say to people who have a negative view

0:28:35 > 0:28:39of Muslim foster parents?

0:28:39 > 0:28:42Basically, it's like, don't judge a book by its cover.

0:28:42 > 0:28:44You can't believe everything that's on the news or what's

0:28:44 > 0:28:47been told about Islam.

0:28:47 > 0:28:50You actually have to, I don't know what the word is for it,

0:28:50 > 0:29:00you actually have to be there and understand it.

0:29:01 > 0:29:06Great smiles at the end. And a great response to that report on social

0:29:06 > 0:29:13media. And said, brilliant story. Heart warming, life affirming and

0:29:13 > 0:29:18true unlike other platforms reporting falsehood. Some people

0:29:18 > 0:29:21have been getting the reporting of this wrong.

0:29:21 > 0:29:25Peter said, sorry, you are moulded to the people you live with and if

0:29:25 > 0:29:28they follow a religion can you experience it every day and you have

0:29:28 > 0:29:31to abide by it if you live in a house.

0:29:31 > 0:29:37Soo e-mails, you can do all of these if you want to get involved...

0:29:37 > 0:29:40Society is a metropolis of multi-race beliefs and we truly find

0:29:40 > 0:29:46our place as young adults in the world by being free to choose ad

0:29:46 > 0:29:49live by our own values. Thank you for those messages and I will

0:29:49 > 0:29:52discuss those after ten o'clock with a group of people with first-hand

0:29:52 > 0:29:53experience of this.

0:29:53 > 0:29:55Still to come...

0:29:55 > 0:29:57First Scotland, then Catalonia, now independence fever has reached...

0:29:57 > 0:29:58Canvey Island.

0:29:58 > 0:30:01We find out why.

0:30:01 > 0:30:06An anti-bullying campaign has found that there high levels of offensive

0:30:06 > 0:30:08language in the gaming community when discussing

0:30:08 > 0:30:11mental health issues.

0:30:11 > 0:30:12We'll be speaking to gamers to find out why.

0:30:17 > 0:30:18Time for the latest news.

0:30:18 > 0:30:24Here's Annita.

0:30:24 > 0:30:27The headlines now on BBC News.

0:30:27 > 0:30:29NHS patients recovering after an operation could be moved

0:30:29 > 0:30:32from a hospital bed to a stranger's spare room under radical

0:30:32 > 0:30:34plans being considered by health trusts in Essex.

0:30:34 > 0:30:36Talks are at an early stage, but the company behind

0:30:36 > 0:30:42the idea has already started recruiting potential carers.

0:30:42 > 0:30:45More than 300,000 people are leaving the workforce every year

0:30:45 > 0:30:48because of insufficient support for mental health problems.

0:30:48 > 0:30:52A report, commissioned by the Government,

0:30:52 > 0:30:55says the human cost of this is huge and that the loss to

0:30:55 > 0:30:57the economy runs into tens of billions of pounds.

0:30:57 > 0:31:00Now the Prime Minister has instructed the NHS and the civil

0:31:00 > 0:31:05service to do more to help promote the mental wellbeing of their staff

0:31:05 > 0:31:07Polls have opened in Kenya for the re-run of the disputed

0:31:07 > 0:31:09presidential election, which is being boycotted

0:31:09 > 0:31:13by the main opposition.

0:31:13 > 0:31:15by 1.4 million votes, but the Supreme Court

0:31:15 > 0:31:20annulled the election, citing irregularities.

0:31:20 > 0:31:22The numbers of disadvantaged pupils gaining places at top universities

0:31:22 > 0:31:24could be significantly raised if entry requirements for those

0:31:24 > 0:31:32students were lowered by two grades, according to research.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35A study by the Sutton Trust showed that if a student's background

0:31:35 > 0:31:37is taken into account when making offers - what it calls

0:31:37 > 0:31:39contextual admissions - the numbers of students from less

0:31:39 > 0:31:49well-off families could rise by 50% at those universities.

0:31:50 > 0:31:52A car designed to travel at up to 1,000 miles an hour

0:31:52 > 0:31:58will make its first public runs later today.

0:31:58 > 0:32:01The British-designed Bloodhound will be conducting trials

0:32:01 > 0:32:09at a mere 200 miles an hour in Cornwall,

0:32:09 > 0:32:10ahead of an attempt

0:32:10 > 0:32:12to break the land speed record in 2019.

0:32:12 > 0:32:14That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:32:14 > 0:32:16Here's some sport now.

0:32:16 > 0:32:25England have been set huge target by Australia. Chasing 296-6. Terrible

0:32:25 > 0:32:34start, losing a batter for just two. It is currently raining, no play at

0:32:34 > 0:32:39the moment. We will keep you up-to-date. West Ham thought --

0:32:39 > 0:32:49fought back to win. Chelsea also beat Everton to one. Celtic beat

0:32:49 > 0:32:53Aberdeen 3-0 to move three points clear at the top of the Scottish

0:32:53 > 0:32:56Premiership. That is the headlines. Back to you.

0:32:56 > 0:33:01Speak to you later. Thank you.

0:33:01 > 0:33:03A committee of MPs has called for the waiting time before

0:33:03 > 0:33:06claimants receive their first Universal Credit payment to be cut.

0:33:06 > 0:33:08The Work and Pensions Select Committee said reducing the waiting

0:33:08 > 0:33:11time from six weeks to one month would remove a major obstacle

0:33:11 > 0:33:14to the success of the policy.

0:33:14 > 0:33:18Let us have a chat with Eleanor Garnier at Westminster. The

0:33:18 > 0:33:23Government has not gone with this idea so far, will they now?They are

0:33:23 > 0:33:27under a significant amount of pressure for the flagship welfare

0:33:27 > 0:33:34policy. Universal Credit is something that rolls six working age

0:33:34 > 0:33:37benefits into one, designed to make the system simpler and to make sure

0:33:37 > 0:33:42no one is better off claiming benefits than in work. It is being

0:33:42 > 0:33:47rolled out gradually across the UK, currently just over 600,000 people

0:33:47 > 0:33:52on it. This Work and Pensions Committee is a group of cross-party

0:33:52 > 0:33:57MPs and it says that where the Universal Credit has been rolled out

0:33:57 > 0:34:03in its full form, the evidence compellingly shows it leads to

0:34:03 > 0:34:05achieve financial difficulty, people are ending up in debt and in some

0:34:05 > 0:34:10cases they are ending up dependent on foodbanks. It says if you could

0:34:10 > 0:34:14just remove the six-week delay designed to mimic waiting for your

0:34:14 > 0:34:19first pay cheque in a new job, if you remove that, it would remove a

0:34:19 > 0:34:23massive barrier to this policy succeeding. Labour has already

0:34:23 > 0:34:29called for this Universal Credit to be paused. It says the system needs

0:34:29 > 0:34:35to be revised. That is what Jeremy Corbyn was pushing Theresa May on at

0:34:35 > 0:34:37Prime Minister's Questions yesterday, challenging the Prime

0:34:37 > 0:34:39Minister to say, look, will this

0:34:39 > 0:34:44roll-out finally be paused?Perhaps I could update the House on where we

0:34:44 > 0:34:51are on the roll-out of Universal Credit. Currently of people claiming

0:34:51 > 0:34:54benefits, 8% are on Universal Credit, by January of next year,

0:34:54 > 0:35:00that will rise to 10%. The roll-out is being conducted in three phases

0:35:00 > 0:35:05and in the intention of it being completed by 2022. It is being done

0:35:05 > 0:35:13in a measured way and I am pleased to say that four out of five people

0:35:13 > 0:35:18are satisfied or very satisfied with the service they are receiving.

0:35:18 > 0:35:22Significantly, several Tory MPs have also voiced concerns about the

0:35:22 > 0:35:27Universal Credit roll-out and with parliamentary arithmetic as it is,

0:35:27 > 0:35:31Theresa May's very slim majority, causing the pram and a step at a

0:35:31 > 0:35:38headache. Privately, it is understood ministers are looking at

0:35:38 > 0:35:43opsin is -- looking at options -- causing the Prime Minister a

0:35:43 > 0:35:47headache. The advance payment system for people who need help has been

0:35:47 > 0:35:51improved. The Tory critics who are critical of the scheme are hoping

0:35:51 > 0:35:54there might be an announcement from the Government ahead of the budget

0:35:54 > 0:36:08next month.Thank you. Still to come...

0:36:12 > 0:36:14An anti-bullying campaign has found that there high levels of offensive

0:36:14 > 0:36:16language in the gaming community when discussing

0:36:16 > 0:36:17mental health issues.

0:36:17 > 0:36:19We'll be speaking to gamers to find out why.

0:36:19 > 0:36:21First, there was the Scottish referendum, then the UK's

0:36:21 > 0:36:23vote on leaving the EU, then Catalonia voted

0:36:23 > 0:36:25for independence in a disputed referendum, and now...

0:36:25 > 0:36:26Canvey Island.

0:36:26 > 0:36:29OK, it may not quite have the same ramifications as those other

0:36:29 > 0:36:31pushes for independence, but the island in the Thames Estuary

0:36:31 > 0:36:34wants to separate from the Essex council that runs it.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36Until 1974, the 40,000 people who lived there

0:36:36 > 0:36:38had their own district council, but since then, it's been part

0:36:38 > 0:36:40of Castle Point Borough Council.

0:36:40 > 0:36:45The island has its own independence party with councillors,

0:36:45 > 0:36:48who sit on the borough council, but they say they're consistently

0:36:48 > 0:36:51outvoted and feel like the poor relations to the mainland.

0:36:51 > 0:36:54Now we can speak to Danielle Low, who wants Canvey Island

0:36:54 > 0:37:02to become independent.

0:37:02 > 0:37:04Of the council, at least.

0:37:04 > 0:37:07Colin Riley is the leader of the council that she wants

0:37:07 > 0:37:08independence from.

0:37:08 > 0:37:10And Chris Fenwick is manager of Canvey Island's most famous export -

0:37:10 > 0:37:11the band Dr Feelgood.

0:37:11 > 0:37:14And he thinks the independence argument will all blow over.

0:37:14 > 0:37:18Really good to see you all. Tell me, Danielle Kang on what is Canvey

0:37:18 > 0:37:24Island like to live in?A lovely community. -- Dani

0:37:24 > 0:37:28Island like to live in?A lovely community. -- Dani. If there is

0:37:28 > 0:37:33anything to be done, they get it sorted. In good times, sad times,

0:37:33 > 0:37:37lovely community. Charities, all sorts, they step up and do things

0:37:37 > 0:37:42together, lovely living on Canvey Island, I liked.It is not that hard

0:37:42 > 0:37:47to get to the mainland, as islands go, separated by a creek and a

0:37:47 > 0:37:50couple of bridges.The main road and the little bridge.You are pretty

0:37:50 > 0:37:56well attached to the mainland. You think there was a feeling still of

0:37:56 > 0:37:59independence on Canvey Island?It would be nice to have our own

0:37:59 > 0:38:04independence.Why?And sometimes the council, you feel let down by the

0:38:04 > 0:38:12council. When you put it to them or people put it to them, it always

0:38:12 > 0:38:15gets backfired, they pull it off on other people, not their fault,

0:38:15 > 0:38:20always an excuse. It would be nice to look after ourselves, like they

0:38:20 > 0:38:25did a few years ago.Is that true? And I firstly thank you for allowing

0:38:25 > 0:38:32me to come on to the programme?You are welcome.I have been a

0:38:32 > 0:38:35councillor for nearly 18 years, when we took over the administration from

0:38:35 > 0:38:40the Labour council, we have worked through this, providing all we can

0:38:40 > 0:38:45for Canvey Island.There are Canvey Island independence councillors

0:38:45 > 0:38:50there, but they feel they are being overlooked, do you listen to them as

0:38:50 > 0:38:55part of the discussion around the place?The leader of the Canvey

0:38:55 > 0:39:01independent party, he regularly meets, he attends my Cabinet

0:39:01 > 0:39:06meeting, we have introduced open questions as well and we have a

0:39:06 > 0:39:09policy and scrutiny committee looking at everything we do. We do

0:39:09 > 0:39:12not ignore them and we tried to include them all the time in what

0:39:12 > 0:39:17decisions we are making. We have to bear in mind our decisions are made

0:39:17 > 0:39:20for the whole of Castle Ponit which is what I represent. We do not look

0:39:20 > 0:39:25down on Canvey Island. We want to make sure they get their share of

0:39:25 > 0:39:29what funds are available. Let us cross to the island itself and

0:39:29 > 0:39:35possibly one of its most famous residents.He is moving around! What

0:39:35 > 0:39:43do you think?Good morning.Good morning. What is your take on it,

0:39:43 > 0:39:48being on the island yourself? You are one of the better-known people

0:39:48 > 0:39:56living on Canvey, are you sitting on the fence on this issue?It crops up

0:39:56 > 0:40:01every ten years, Canvey claiming some kind of broad independence. We

0:40:01 > 0:40:08are on the tip of Essex and I have always regarded Canvey Island as

0:40:08 > 0:40:13more of an overseas protectorate because we are so different from the

0:40:13 > 0:40:20rest of certainly Essex and indeed from other communities in the UK.

0:40:20 > 0:40:26Why? What makes it different? Settled by the Dutch originally,

0:40:26 > 0:40:29reclaim from the sea.Reclaim land from the Dutch in the 16th century

0:40:29 > 0:40:38when the UK had a Dutch king for a while, William of orange. It has

0:40:38 > 0:40:46grown very organically, which people have moved from the East End of

0:40:46 > 0:40:52London to Canvey since, basically, the Second World War. Canvey, since

0:40:52 > 0:41:02the old administration was shut down, and we joined in making Castle

0:41:02 > 0:41:10Point, Canvey has a 40% increasing growth of people. Argument, quite

0:41:10 > 0:41:13honestly, of there being 17 councillors the Canvey and 24 for

0:41:13 > 0:41:20the mainland, it is an imbalance.Is this an immigration issue, is that

0:41:20 > 0:41:25what you are saying?No, it is purely on a voting side of things

0:41:25 > 0:41:30and they are looking at ways, I am informed by various councillors I

0:41:30 > 0:41:37know, of rejigging the boundaries of the awards to give Canvey a bit more

0:41:37 > 0:41:42balance. At the moment, there is an imbalance, purely on the amount of

0:41:42 > 0:41:53councillors that represent Canvey as opposed to Benfleet.I want to nail

0:41:53 > 0:41:57down why you think Canvey is so special. There are plenty of other

0:41:57 > 0:42:01islands in the British Isles quite a bit further away from the mainland,

0:42:01 > 0:42:05dozens of them.I totally agree. Canvey is the seventh largest island

0:42:05 > 0:42:14in the UK, but its close proximity to London shapes it because our

0:42:14 > 0:42:19travel time, thousands of people commute to London on a daily basis,

0:42:19 > 0:42:26London taxi drivers live on Canvey Island and drive up there and do

0:42:26 > 0:42:30their trade. We are very connected, it is a very switched on in place.

0:42:30 > 0:42:37On the eastern side of it, you sail off from Canvey and you bump into

0:42:37 > 0:42:41continental Europe. We have always had a very close connection with

0:42:41 > 0:42:46Europe. We are sailing community and a boat building community. We are

0:42:46 > 0:42:54extremely switched on, East and west, and indeed, my band, Dr

0:42:54 > 0:42:59Feelgood, before we played in London in the 70s, we took the ferry to

0:42:59 > 0:43:02Holland and did eight shows there and decided it worked and we then

0:43:02 > 0:43:08went to London to try our luck.It seems like when Canvey Island looks

0:43:08 > 0:43:12out, it looks across the Channel and not across the creek towards Essex.

0:43:12 > 0:43:17Is there something in the number of people having gone up to 40,000, I

0:43:17 > 0:43:22think now.It is only 30 8000. Forgive me, close enough. It has

0:43:22 > 0:43:29gone up thousands. Are they underrepresented?The council do not

0:43:29 > 0:43:36set... This is why we offered the councillors a couple of posts on the

0:43:36 > 0:43:41Cabinet to be more involved. When I took over three years ago, as the

0:43:41 > 0:43:46leader of the council, identified then, half the population of Castle

0:43:46 > 0:43:52Point or on the island and half are. And I said, come and join the

0:43:52 > 0:43:56Cabinet.Unfortunately, they decided against that. He has put the offer

0:43:56 > 0:44:00there, democracy being what it is, if the whole of the island felt like

0:44:00 > 0:44:05this, perhaps they could vote in more independence councillors.In

0:44:05 > 0:44:12the last vote, did we not vote in more then?15 local independence...

0:44:12 > 0:44:20Decent enough number. There could be more of them. Perhaps it will stay

0:44:20 > 0:44:24at this level, what do you think? Maybe they need to do more, if they

0:44:24 > 0:44:28are adamant about it, push forward with it, if that's what he wants.If

0:44:28 > 0:44:37it comes to what you want, and Canvey did get its own council, like

0:44:37 > 0:44:42in the early 70s, what would it be like them question not just as

0:44:42 > 0:44:47lovely as now, just with our own independent people.-- what would it

0:44:47 > 0:44:54be like then? We have, I was saying to Colin, the Canvey clean-up team

0:44:54 > 0:44:58who go around in their own time to tidy up the beach. That is not the

0:44:58 > 0:45:03job of the locals to do, it should be the council. They go out every

0:45:03 > 0:45:07day, every other day, in their own time, to tidy up the beach. Little

0:45:07 > 0:45:12things like that make us different on the island.You may have some

0:45:12 > 0:45:16disagreements about the way the play should be run, but it seems like

0:45:16 > 0:45:23quite a special place. Decent sense of community. Thanks to all three of

0:45:23 > 0:45:28you for coming in or staying on the island to talk about it!

0:45:28 > 0:45:29Coming up...

0:45:29 > 0:45:31Could inter-faith fostering be the solution to getting more

0:45:31 > 0:45:33vulnerable children out of care and into foster families?

0:45:33 > 0:45:36We'll be speaking to a foster carer and a man who experienced

0:45:36 > 0:45:40inter-faith fostering.

0:45:40 > 0:45:42Online attitudes towards people with mental health problems

0:45:42 > 0:45:46are worst amongst the gaming community, sports fans

0:45:46 > 0:45:50and people working in IT.

0:45:50 > 0:45:51That's according to the anti-bullying

0:45:51 > 0:45:52charity Ditch The Label.

0:45:52 > 0:45:56They've analysed nearly 13 million online conversations that have

0:45:56 > 0:45:59something to do with mental health, and they found video gamers were 10%

0:45:59 > 0:46:01more likely to use offensive or derogatory language

0:46:01 > 0:46:05when discussing mental health.

0:46:05 > 0:46:08Earlier this year, the world's highest paid YouTuber,

0:46:08 > 0:46:15PewDiePie, had to apologise for using an offensive word

0:46:15 > 0:46:17during a live-stream game play.

0:46:17 > 0:46:19He claims it was just a slip of the tongue.

0:46:19 > 0:46:21But is the community taking mental health seriously,

0:46:21 > 0:46:23or is offensive language and competitive bullying

0:46:23 > 0:46:25an acceptable part of the fun for some of them?

0:46:25 > 0:46:28Let's talk now to Emma Slade.

0:46:28 > 0:46:33She's an online gamer who says she's faced more abuse from females

0:46:33 > 0:46:35than males and thinks mental health can be disrespected

0:46:35 > 0:46:36on gaming platforms.

0:46:36 > 0:46:40Bailey Mitchell is 17 years old.

0:46:40 > 0:46:43He faced a lot of online bullying over multiplayer games

0:46:43 > 0:46:50when he was younger and says it made his anxiety worse.

0:46:50 > 0:46:52Also, Niki Bernard - or Niki Trash as she's

0:46:52 > 0:46:53called on gaming sites -

0:46:53 > 0:46:56says the community needs to toughen up and that abuse as

0:46:56 > 0:47:01banter is commonplace.

0:47:01 > 0:47:07It is good to have you here. Emma, first, what kind of Bing have you

0:47:07 > 0:47:14experienced and what games were playing when you experienced it?To

0:47:14 > 0:47:17be honest, I have experienced it more and console gaming, things like

0:47:17 > 0:47:24my PlayStation and Xbox, then PC gaming. I have been playing games

0:47:24 > 0:47:29like grand theft auto or sports games and that is where I have had

0:47:29 > 0:47:36the majority of name-calling. I think there is a great community out

0:47:36 > 0:47:44there, it is just a bit hard binding them.When you say they are abusing

0:47:44 > 0:47:50you and call you names, how does it start? Is it just banter and part

0:47:50 > 0:47:54and parcel of playing games online and having a headset on and people

0:47:54 > 0:48:02talking and getting into the moment? I get what she is saying, but

0:48:02 > 0:48:05especially with headset gaming, when it comes to that, there needs to be

0:48:05 > 0:48:12a line between banter and abuse. Mainly, it happens if you don't play

0:48:12 > 0:48:17very well in a video game. And I think most people who play video

0:48:17 > 0:48:25games have some sort of mental health illness...Most people,

0:48:25 > 0:48:29really, have mental health illness if they are playing video games?I

0:48:29 > 0:48:33would say nearly everyone I know in the huge gaming community has some

0:48:33 > 0:48:37sort of mental illness.How'd you know they have a mental health

0:48:37 > 0:48:44problem?I have spent the last two years raising money for charity and

0:48:44 > 0:48:49being very involved raising money for mental health, so the sphere I

0:48:49 > 0:48:55have around me of community have all got mental health illnesses, or they

0:48:55 > 0:49:00are very keen on supporting people. Is this kind of thing you talk about

0:49:00 > 0:49:03drawing playing a game, the mental health issues you are dealing with?

0:49:03 > 0:49:11Laying games on my PlayStation that is not so much what happens because

0:49:11 > 0:49:15people are more in the moment. If you play a game where people can

0:49:15 > 0:49:21leave comments on a live stream, it is not really banter so much. People

0:49:21 > 0:49:26do not really acts like that and that is a space where you can talk

0:49:26 > 0:49:31about mental health illnesses. Bailey, you have suffered anxiety as

0:49:31 > 0:49:36a result of the experiences you have had playing games online, how did

0:49:36 > 0:49:42that manifest itself?When I was about 11, I got my first console and

0:49:42 > 0:49:51the main game I played was life. When you play on that game, you can

0:49:51 > 0:49:56talk to people on headsets. When I was 11, if I had strangers telling

0:49:56 > 0:50:04me to kill myself if I score a goal, it really can, you take things more

0:50:04 > 0:50:13literally. Over time, you develop and it does not... For some people,

0:50:13 > 0:50:19it is not affect them as badly as others.To clarify, we have spoken

0:50:19 > 0:50:24to a 13-year-old who plays the game you mentioned, Fifa, a football game

0:50:24 > 0:50:29online, and has not experienced any of this. How commonplace is it?I

0:50:29 > 0:50:36think it is pretty common. It sort of depends. If you are playing

0:50:36 > 0:50:43online, if you are playing in a big game with lots of people. If you are

0:50:43 > 0:50:50talking. And also, it is not only over a headset, you can also get

0:50:50 > 0:50:57sense direct messages.A final question, Bailey, if you have got

0:50:57 > 0:51:02all these people in a room together at a party, there will be a couple

0:51:02 > 0:51:05you will avoid because they are saying too many things you do not

0:51:05 > 0:51:10agree with. Is it like that, or is it more people than that and in a

0:51:10 > 0:51:17way you cannot avoid it when you are playing?I think by saying just

0:51:17 > 0:51:21avoid it, kind of like, it is kind of not really solving any problems,

0:51:21 > 0:51:28it is just hiding a big issue. I think it really varies. Sometimes,

0:51:28 > 0:51:32there will be times when you can just avoid it, other times, you

0:51:32 > 0:51:38cannot. Sometimes it can reach out under The Times you can't. It really

0:51:38 > 0:51:43depends. Again, I don't think ignoring it is a good solution to

0:51:43 > 0:51:48that problem.Listening to Bailey and Emma, do you think they should

0:51:48 > 0:51:53toughen up still?Well, the whole thing is so subjective to what game

0:51:53 > 0:52:01you are playing. Grand theft auto, questionable things, and how are you

0:52:01 > 0:52:09supposed to turn on the mute button and avoid it? It is an online

0:52:09 > 0:52:12community and there will be somebody, somewhere, ranting about

0:52:12 > 0:52:21something and people get far too easily triggered about stuff. In a

0:52:21 > 0:52:24real-life situation, you cannot say these things to a person committee

0:52:24 > 0:52:28would not say that naturally.What you say online you would not say to

0:52:28 > 0:52:35some body's base, within reason?I am not PewDiePie, we will just say

0:52:35 > 0:52:42that.I know one word you talked about using which many people find

0:52:42 > 0:52:48so offensive is regard, would you use that to somebody's face?Yes, if

0:52:48 > 0:52:52they are being ridiculously unintelligent and that is offensive,

0:52:52 > 0:52:59I get it. But it is the 21st century. I make it sound that I am a

0:52:59 > 0:53:03terrible person here, but in the heat of the moment, in a game, you

0:53:03 > 0:53:07do not see these people, you are not face-to-face. It is very easy to

0:53:07 > 0:53:14freely say things you would not say to them face-to-face. Does that

0:53:14 > 0:53:19justify it? No, it does not. Definitely not. There are people who

0:53:19 > 0:53:25get triggered by things so you have to be careful. At the same time, it

0:53:25 > 0:53:30is the online world and no matter harm hard you try to avoid it, if

0:53:30 > 0:53:37you get triggered by things like offensive language from people who

0:53:37 > 0:53:44are gamers all the time playing, avoid those games may be.You are a

0:53:44 > 0:53:48bit older than our other guests and you have a nine-year-old yourself

0:53:48 > 0:53:51and they play games and experience this kind of language and you're

0:53:51 > 0:53:57happy with that?Well, I am not happy with it, but at the same time,

0:53:57 > 0:54:01I have taught him that there is a difference between virtual reality

0:54:01 > 0:54:06and the things these people say. They are grown-ups, they are not the

0:54:06 > 0:54:13nine-year-old kids. He notes the difference between, you cannot talk

0:54:13 > 0:54:19like that ever, not in my house, not out in reality, but watching these

0:54:19 > 0:54:22guys playing, he understands, OK, they are having a rage moment and

0:54:22 > 0:54:26they are going to say some ridiculous stuff.Thank you, back to

0:54:26 > 0:54:33Bailey and Emma. Daily, have you ever fallen into the trap of getting

0:54:33 > 0:54:36so fired up during a game that you have said things you regret and can

0:54:36 > 0:54:42you appreciate white people might do that?I can, at the same time,

0:54:42 > 0:54:52offensive language is not the issue. It is what you say. So I don't think

0:54:52 > 0:54:56swearing is going to trigger somebody's mental health issues. I

0:54:56 > 0:55:03think telling them that you are going to find their parents or

0:55:03 > 0:55:08whatever, it is really difficult to find where it starts to become a

0:55:08 > 0:55:18problem. But I do think, yes.Very briefly, Emma, it seems like there

0:55:18 > 0:55:23is obviously still a big gap between the real world and the online world,

0:55:23 > 0:55:26do you think the online world will grow up a bit or have to grow up to

0:55:26 > 0:55:31cope with this kind of thing?I think that the online community is

0:55:31 > 0:55:35self will grow up itself. What she said that it is the 21st-century and

0:55:35 > 0:55:42it is OK to call somebody a name is completely wrong, in my opinion. I

0:55:42 > 0:55:45don't think children should be exposed to games with language like

0:55:45 > 0:55:50that. It is not swear words that trigger people, it is the name

0:55:50 > 0:55:57calling and the threats.Thank you so much. Thank you, all.

0:55:57 > 0:56:00There have been clashes in Kenya this morning between police

0:56:00 > 0:56:02and opposition protesters, who want to disrupt a re-run

0:56:02 > 0:56:05of the presidential vote.

0:56:06 > 0:56:08But just why is Kenya holding another election?

0:56:08 > 0:56:13Here's the background.

0:57:32 > 0:57:34And there will be updates on the situation in Kenya,

0:57:34 > 0:57:39as people go to the polls, throughout the day on BBC News.

0:57:39 > 0:57:45Let's get the latest weather update, with Carol.

0:57:45 > 0:57:49I am already thinking about the weekend, it has been fairly mild of

0:57:49 > 0:57:50late, but it will get colder.

0:57:53 > 0:57:58It is too mild at the moment. The temperatures almost where we would

0:57:58 > 0:58:02expect the maximum temperature is to be at this stage in October. London

0:58:02 > 0:58:07would be 40 normally and at ten a:m., it is 13. Cardiff, 11th,

0:58:07 > 0:58:13spot-on more or less. So pretty good temperatures. But it will change at

0:58:13 > 0:58:19the weekend, what would you expect? I will get my coat! Don't go just

0:58:19 > 0:58:24yet! It is turning much colder because of the wind direction. We

0:58:24 > 0:58:27have high pressure dominating, Friday and Saturday it slips to the

0:58:27 > 0:58:32West. The isobars moved from the North West to a northerly direction

0:58:32 > 0:58:38and northerly direction is a cold direction. In Scotland, temperatures

0:58:38 > 0:58:43a bit below average on Sunday, but with the wind and it feels pretty

0:58:43 > 0:58:46chilly. England Wales and Northern Ireland, temperatures again roughly

0:58:46 > 0:58:51where they should be. You are right, it get your coat, you will need it

0:58:51 > 0:58:56by the weekend. And it is very nice to see you.

0:58:56 > 0:59:00We have got some rain across the central part of the UK, Southern

0:59:00 > 0:59:03parts of Ireland and Northern England and North Wales. Fragmented

0:59:03 > 0:59:08at the moment and it had South through today. As it does so, it

0:59:08 > 0:59:14becomes heavier across eastern parts. Or the far North of England

0:59:14 > 0:59:18and Scotland and Northern Ireland, it brightens up with sunny spells.

0:59:18 > 0:59:23In the North and North West of Scotland, showers and windy. Showers

0:59:23 > 0:59:28blowing through quickly. We still have rain across parts of Northern

0:59:28 > 0:59:31England and North Wales even into the afternoon, heavy bursts possible

0:59:31 > 0:59:36in Lincolnshire and cloud, with fog this morning, lifting three this

0:59:36 > 0:59:42morning. By the afternoon, we will see the clouds break in places, not

0:59:42 > 0:59:45everywhere, with a little sunshine coming through. South Wales has

0:59:45 > 0:59:48sunshine but with the weather front across North Wales, we have light

0:59:48 > 0:59:54rain and drizzle and for Northern Ireland, a fine day in prospect with

0:59:54 > 0:59:58sunny spells and highs of 13 in Belfast. In Scotland, we hang onto

0:59:58 > 1:00:02the showers in the North and North West, a blustery wind. For the rest

1:00:02 > 1:00:06of Scotland, dry with sunny spells. This evening and overnight, the

1:00:06 > 1:00:12weather front had South taking what is left of the patchy rain with it.

1:00:12 > 1:00:17Behind it and clearer skies, cooler night. Frost in Northern Ireland and

1:00:17 > 1:00:22Northern England. Bok forming across Northern Ireland, Northern England

1:00:22 > 1:00:27and the Northwest Midlands. -- fog. When we lose the front from the

1:00:27 > 1:00:32South into the Channel Islands, it takes cloud with it. It will

1:00:32 > 1:00:37brighten and we will see decent sunshine. Windy in the North of

1:00:37 > 1:00:43Scotland with the wind strengthening and severe gales overnight. In the

1:00:43 > 1:00:49Saturday, we have this weather front across Scotland, heading South. A

1:00:49 > 1:00:51westerly and north-westerly wind, not as chilly as the northerly, and

1:00:51 > 1:00:57that is the rain coming southwards. A noticeable breeze if you are out

1:00:57 > 1:01:05and about. Temperatures slipping in the South, 15 is the maximum. Into

1:01:05 > 1:01:11Sunday, we still have this northerly coming down the East coast, so

1:01:11 > 1:01:14across England, Wales and Northern Ireland, temperatures more or less

1:01:14 > 1:01:19spot-on but it feels cooler because of the wind and as we move into

1:01:19 > 1:01:23Scotland, temperatures a little bit below par, especially in Glasgow and

1:01:23 > 1:01:28Edinburgh, it should be 11-12, but with the wind, it feels quite nippy

1:01:28 > 1:01:35so get something woolly out to keep warm.

1:01:35 > 1:01:37Hello it's Thursday, it's 10am, I'm Matt Barbet.

1:01:37 > 1:01:39NHS patients could be put up in people's homes under

1:01:39 > 1:01:44an Airbnb-style scheme to relieve pressure on hospital beds.

1:01:44 > 1:01:47That's under a plan being considered by a health trust in Essex.

1:01:47 > 1:01:48We'd welcome your thoughts on this.

1:01:48 > 1:01:51Get in touch in the usual ways.

1:01:51 > 1:01:53We've a special report on inter-racial and

1:01:53 > 1:01:56inter-faith fostering.

1:01:56 > 1:02:02Atheist Rebecca has lived with her Muslim family since she was 12.

1:02:02 > 1:02:09When I tell them I am in a Muslim family, they start making sudden...

1:02:09 > 1:02:18Assumptions.Yeah. They have said it behind my back, I bet her parents

1:02:18 > 1:02:26have explosives in their house. I am just, like, I live there!

1:02:26 > 1:02:29We'll be speaking to former Towie stars, mum and daughter,

1:02:29 > 1:02:31Debbie Douglas and Lydia Bright a little later in the programme.

1:02:31 > 1:02:33And another woman has accused the Hollywood producer

1:02:33 > 1:02:34Harvey Weinstein of raping her.

1:02:34 > 1:02:37The Norwegian actress Natassia Malthe said

1:02:37 > 1:02:39he assaulted her after the Bafta Awards ceremony in 2008.

1:02:39 > 1:02:47Good morning.

1:02:47 > 1:02:52He said he could give me the movie part in an upcoming film.With the

1:02:52 > 1:03:04implication being that I had to sleep with him in order to get it.

1:03:04 > 1:03:06Good morning.

1:03:06 > 1:03:09Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

1:03:09 > 1:03:11NHS patients recovering after an operation could be moved

1:03:11 > 1:03:13from a hospital bed to a stranger's spare room under radical

1:03:13 > 1:03:17plans being considered by health trusts in Essex.

1:03:17 > 1:03:19Talks are at an early stage but the company behind

1:03:19 > 1:03:29the idea has already started recruiting potential carers.

1:03:29 > 1:03:31The aerospace company Bombardier is to cut 280 jobs

1:03:31 > 1:03:33in Northern Ireland, according to the Unite union.

1:03:33 > 1:03:36It's the latest in a series of job losses at the firm.

1:03:36 > 1:03:39Last year, 1,000 staff were made redundant as part of the company's

1:03:39 > 1:03:41plan to cut costs and increase profitability.

1:03:41 > 1:03:46Four people have been killed in Finland in a collision

1:03:46 > 1:03:49between a train and an army truck on a remote level crossing.

1:03:49 > 1:03:52The defence ministry said three of the dead were soldiers,

1:03:52 > 1:03:56thought to be conscripts doing compulsory military service.

1:03:56 > 1:03:58Youth workers have been told they should consider monitoring

1:03:58 > 1:04:01the social media used by young people who are at risk

1:04:01 > 1:04:04of being involved in crime.

1:04:04 > 1:04:07The recommendation's been made by Her Majesty's Inspectorate

1:04:07 > 1:04:10of Probation, which has warned that a quarter of the crimes it

1:04:10 > 1:04:14studied were directly linked to social media.

1:04:14 > 1:04:21We found a range of things, sometimes simple exchanges

1:04:21 > 1:04:23could escalate into violence when people met, particularly

1:04:23 > 1:04:24if there's a knife involved.

1:04:24 > 1:04:27Secondly, people were using social media to plan crime.

1:04:27 > 1:04:29Thirdly, sometimes people were using social media

1:04:29 > 1:04:34to commit crime, so, for example, blackmailing people

1:04:34 > 1:04:40who put unfortunate images of themselves on social media.

1:04:40 > 1:04:43There have been clashes in Kenya between police and opposition

1:04:43 > 1:04:45protesters as polls open in the re-run of the disputed

1:04:45 > 1:04:47presidential election.

1:04:47 > 1:04:50President Uhuru Kenyatta won the August election

1:04:50 > 1:04:56by 1.4 million votes, but the Supreme Court annulled

1:04:56 > 1:04:59the election, citing irregularities.

1:04:59 > 1:05:02The main opposition leader has described the election as a sham

1:05:02 > 1:05:07and urged his supporters to boycott it.

1:05:07 > 1:05:10A car capable of travelling at up to 1,000 miles an hour will make

1:05:10 > 1:05:12its first public runs later today.

1:05:12 > 1:05:14The British-designed Bloodhound will be conducting trials

1:05:14 > 1:05:17at a mere 200 miles an hour in Cornwall ahead of

1:05:17 > 1:05:23an attempt to break the land speed record in 2019.

1:05:23 > 1:05:29Later, we will be speaking to the chief engineer of the Bloodhound to

1:05:29 > 1:05:38find out how preparations are going. Looking forward to that too! We have

1:05:38 > 1:05:44had loads of messages already on the foster care story, kids from

1:05:44 > 1:05:47different backgrounds going to live with foster carers from different

1:05:47 > 1:05:53backgrounds to them. Claire tweeted, love and nurture is not defined by

1:05:53 > 1:05:57colour, race. A foster parent should not be either. We saw that in the

1:05:57 > 1:06:04report. The care and the child were very happy in that relationship.

1:06:04 > 1:06:07Another tweet, fabulous foster parents doing a great thing, the

1:06:07 > 1:06:12young lady seemed happy and cared for in a balanced home. Adam

1:06:12 > 1:06:16e-mailed, I watched not all of the clip, you can watch it all if you

1:06:16 > 1:06:21like! I found it very uplifting. It does not matter about them being of

1:06:21 > 1:06:25different faiths, as long as they can provide a loving, stable home.

1:06:25 > 1:06:29The children learn a bit about the fate of their foster parents, they

1:06:29 > 1:06:40come out wiser -- the faith. Get in touch. If you text, you will be

1:06:40 > 1:06:47charged a standard network rate. Here is the sport.

1:06:47 > 1:06:51England have a mammoth task on their hands to win the second ODI of the

1:06:51 > 1:06:58women's Ashes Series. Australia made 296 with the captain blasting a

1:06:58 > 1:07:06quickfire 89. England have already lost both openers. England currently

1:07:06 > 1:07:1139-2. Not going particularly well for England. You can listen to

1:07:11 > 1:07:16commentary on Radio 5 Live Sports Extra at the moment. See if they can

1:07:16 > 1:07:19turn it around. Slaven Bilic has said his side reacted in the most

1:07:19 > 1:07:25brilliant weight after coming from 2-0 down to beat Tottenham. They

1:07:25 > 1:07:31scored twice in five minutes for West Ham and another nodded home the

1:07:31 > 1:07:35winner. Slaven Bilic had been under pressure following the drubbing by

1:07:35 > 1:07:39Brighton on Friday. A bit of breathing space for him. David

1:07:39 > 1:07:43Unsworth first game in charge of Everton, it ended in defeat. Beaten

1:07:43 > 1:07:512-1 byte Premier League champions Chelsea. It is a massive 61 matches

1:07:51 > 1:07:55unbeaten now the Celtic in the Scottish Premiership. They beat

1:07:55 > 1:08:02Aberdeen 3-0. Kieran Tierney gave them the lead, Moussa Dembele scored

1:08:02 > 1:08:06twice, his second from close range coming up for you, Celtic went three

1:08:06 > 1:08:10points clear at the top of the table. Rugby Union, James Haskell

1:08:10 > 1:08:19has been left out of 34 man England squad. He has 75 England caps and

1:08:19 > 1:08:23started the season with a hand injury. He has been placed by

1:08:23 > 1:08:28Samsung is from Exeter, his first call-up. England play Argentina at

1:08:28 > 1:08:33Twickenham on the 11th of November, before facing Australia and Samoa on

1:08:33 > 1:08:36successive weekends. The Rugby League World Cup gets under way in

1:08:36 > 1:08:41Australia in 24 hours. England taking on the daunting task, the

1:08:41 > 1:08:46hosts and champions. Sam Burgess says they are looking forward to the

1:08:46 > 1:08:55challenge.Really excited. Since the end of March in the NRL, good two

1:08:55 > 1:09:00months until kick-off to the World Cup. Plenty of time to think about

1:09:00 > 1:09:05it and get fit for it. Really excited. On the eve of the World

1:09:05 > 1:09:08Cup, playing the Aussies in Melbourne, does not get much better

1:09:08 > 1:09:13than that.We have been enjoying the story. Two amateur golfers who have

1:09:13 > 1:09:20defied astronomical odds by hitting consecutive holes-in-one. They had

1:09:20 > 1:09:25never played together before but last Saturday, they both went from

1:09:25 > 1:09:30tee to pin in one shot on the 13th hole and according to the national

1:09:30 > 1:09:33hole in one registry, the odds of two players acing the same hole on

1:09:33 > 1:09:40the same date on the same round are 17 million to one.Completely amazed

1:09:40 > 1:09:46I got a hole in one before it dawned on us, we both felt like that, it

1:09:46 > 1:09:50dawned on us we had both done it and it must be pretty rare.So exciting.

1:09:50 > 1:09:55We did high fives and probably a little dance, I cannot remember, so

1:09:55 > 1:09:59lovely.If I was them, I would have gone straight out and bought a

1:09:59 > 1:10:04lottery ticket! What are the chances?

1:10:04 > 1:10:0917 million to one! I wish I had put a ten on it!

1:10:09 > 1:10:12The UK's leading charity in foster care, the Fostering Network,

1:10:12 > 1:10:13has recently launched a project to recruit more

1:10:13 > 1:10:15Muslim foster carers.

1:10:15 > 1:10:17They say that thousands more foster families are needed each year,

1:10:17 > 1:10:20with a need for foster carers from all sectors of

1:10:20 > 1:10:21society including from the Muslim community.

1:10:21 > 1:10:24Our reporter, Ashley John-Baptiste, has been to meet some foster

1:10:24 > 1:10:26carers and care leavers with their own experiences

1:10:26 > 1:10:35of interracial and interfaith foster care.

1:10:35 > 1:10:36The Government say interracial and interfaith fostering

1:10:36 > 1:10:42should be a last resort, but for some councils,

1:10:42 > 1:10:45it's a choice between that or leaving a child in a care home.

1:10:45 > 1:10:49Over 72,000 children in the UK are in care.

1:10:49 > 1:10:58According to latest figures, over 53,000 of these are fostered.

1:10:58 > 1:11:00Rebecca was fostered at the age of 12 by the Arshads,

1:11:00 > 1:11:02a Pakistani Muslim couple in Nottingham.

1:11:02 > 1:11:04Having just turned 18, she is now a care leaver

1:11:04 > 1:11:06but continues to live with the family under

1:11:06 > 1:11:12an arrangement called staying put.

1:11:12 > 1:11:14Legislation that allows care leavers to stay

1:11:14 > 1:11:18with their foster parents if both parties agree to it.

1:11:18 > 1:11:21Were there any cultural changes moving into this home?

1:11:21 > 1:11:24I'm not a spicy person, so a lot of the food,

1:11:24 > 1:11:26they have to make it so mild.

1:11:26 > 1:11:29You can't walk in front of someone if they're praying.

1:11:29 > 1:11:31I didn't know that when I first came in.

1:11:31 > 1:11:34Have you ever wanted to see Rebecca become a Muslim?

1:11:34 > 1:11:39We've discussed it with her, how would she feel, but we've never

1:11:39 > 1:11:41imposed saying, Rebecca, you should become a Muslim because

1:11:41 > 1:11:42you're in our household.

1:11:42 > 1:11:44Rebecca has got her own identity.

1:11:44 > 1:11:47When I first went to Pakistan, I was talking to one

1:11:47 > 1:11:49of my friends on Facebook and he was like,

1:11:49 > 1:11:50"What are you doing?"

1:11:50 > 1:11:52And I was just like, "Ah, I'm on holiday".

1:11:52 > 1:11:54And he was like, "Where are you?"

1:11:54 > 1:11:56I said, Pakistan.

1:11:56 > 1:11:58And was like, "So where are you living?"

1:11:58 > 1:12:01With my family and he was like, "You're living with terrorists".

1:12:01 > 1:12:02I was like excuse me.

1:12:02 > 1:12:04They haven't said to me directly, but they have

1:12:04 > 1:12:05said it behind my back.

1:12:05 > 1:12:08"I bet her parents have got explosives or bombs

1:12:08 > 1:12:11or whatever in their home," I'm just like, "I live there".

1:12:11 > 1:12:13The Government doesn't have figures on how many

1:12:13 > 1:12:19interracial placements exist.

1:12:19 > 1:12:22We do know, however, that last year saw a rise

1:12:22 > 1:12:24in the number of children in care from ethnic minority

1:12:24 > 1:12:26backgrounds and whilst it's

1:12:26 > 1:12:29estimated that 3,000 Muslim children are put into foster care every year,

1:12:29 > 1:12:35only a quarter of long-term foster carers are from an ethnic minority.

1:12:35 > 1:12:38Jerome is a 26-year-old care leaver.

1:12:38 > 1:12:42He was put in care at the age of four and recalls the strong

1:12:42 > 1:12:46cultural barriers in his first foster home.

1:12:46 > 1:12:49The first family I lived with were an Indian family

1:12:49 > 1:12:53and they were Muslim as well and it was just a massive culture

1:12:53 > 1:13:00shock because my mum was white and they were Asian and it was like,

1:13:00 > 1:13:03OK, what's going on here, in a sense.

1:13:03 > 1:13:06We didn't like the food because we didn't recognise it.

1:13:06 > 1:13:09Our mum used to cook corned beef and rice and English breakfast

1:13:09 > 1:13:10and that disappeared.

1:13:10 > 1:13:16To be fair, they lost us.

1:13:16 > 1:13:20Your carer's job is to find you, but they actually lost us as kids.

1:13:20 > 1:13:22The Fostering Network, a leading charity in foster care,

1:13:22 > 1:13:24says that thousands more carers are needed each year

1:13:24 > 1:13:27from all sectors of society.

1:13:27 > 1:13:30They recognise the need for more Muslim foster parents.

1:13:30 > 1:13:36They have launched a project to recruit more of them.

1:13:36 > 1:13:42Let's talk now to Debbie Douglas, from the series The Only Way

1:13:42 > 1:13:45is Essex, who has fostered more than 100 children.

1:13:45 > 1:13:47That meant a rather busy household for her biological daughter,

1:13:47 > 1:13:51Lydia Bright.

1:13:51 > 1:13:52Sir Martin Narey, who's the Government's advisor

1:13:52 > 1:13:53on Children's Social Care.

1:13:53 > 1:13:57Kevin Williams is from the Fostering Network.

1:13:57 > 1:14:00And Jerome Harvey, who we filmed with, is a care leaver

1:14:00 > 1:14:07who had some difficult experiences while in foster care.

1:14:07 > 1:14:11Starting with the positives. Having fostered so many children, you would

1:14:11 > 1:14:17not do it if you did not love it, why?Because I believe it makes a

1:14:17 > 1:14:21difference in the world and I think all too often we look at running

1:14:21 > 1:14:29around, doing jobs we have, and for me, I fell into it, to tell you the

1:14:29 > 1:14:34truth. I did not know too much about fostering. I look back over the last

1:14:34 > 1:14:3925 years and I would not have wanted to do anything different because it

1:14:39 > 1:14:42is the most rewarding thing a person can do, give something back without

1:14:42 > 1:14:46wanting anything in return.We have talked about this before, you get

1:14:46 > 1:14:50something in return, it is a job, but it is more than that, a

1:14:50 > 1:14:58vocation, a way of life.It really is a way of life. I would not class

1:14:58 > 1:15:01it as a job. It is what I do everyday. If you say it is a job,

1:15:01 > 1:15:07you are working 24 hours a day. Not many jobs you work 24 hours a day!

1:15:07 > 1:15:12When you finish, you leave the office, that is it. For me...I have

1:15:12 > 1:15:18my own kids to look after!So did I, I had four, and the children that

1:15:18 > 1:15:23came into my home. Each of those children taught my own children

1:15:23 > 1:15:27something. More importantly, taught me something. You get as much back

1:15:27 > 1:15:31from them as you give to them.What did they teach you, Lydia,

1:15:31 > 1:15:41particularly the kids coming from different backgrounds?

1:15:41 > 1:15:44They have their own problems and they come from destructive

1:15:44 > 1:15:49backgrounds and they can be disruptive and it can be chaotic.

1:15:49 > 1:15:52And of my childhood, I probably wished at times my mum never did it.

1:15:52 > 1:15:57But then I think you see you the child developing and children are

1:15:57 > 1:16:01very adaptable and you see them flourish and I think they learn from

1:16:01 > 1:16:06our behaviour. And they become settled. And they become part of the

1:16:06 > 1:16:11family.What time did you think they wish I had not done this?Lots of

1:16:11 > 1:16:16times! When a children first comes into replacement, they are always a

1:16:16 > 1:16:20bit chaotic, understandably. They have come from chaos. And also, they

1:16:20 > 1:16:25are going from hurt and they have left their family and they are

1:16:25 > 1:16:27missing their parents, so when they first comment, they do normally come

1:16:27 > 1:16:32with a number of problems.What about the other cultural

1:16:32 > 1:16:36differences? This has been highlighted because of story

1:16:36 > 1:16:39reported, not entirely as reported, but essentially about a white

1:16:39 > 1:16:44British Christian girl, five years old, placed with a family who

1:16:44 > 1:16:49worship Islam. Do you think that can cause problems or can it be

1:16:49 > 1:16:54overlooked if the love and support is there?Over the years, my parents

1:16:54 > 1:16:58have fostered children from all races. Children of every colour and

1:16:58 > 1:17:04race and religion coming into our household. I have personally never

1:17:04 > 1:17:08seen a problem. I do understand probably the priority for most

1:17:08 > 1:17:13councils would be to put a child within a placement with similar

1:17:13 > 1:17:18cultural background to where they come from. The same race. But that

1:17:18 > 1:17:22cannot always be the case. Especially with such a shortage of

1:17:22 > 1:17:26carers. It is much better to put a child within a foster placement

1:17:26 > 1:17:30rather than a presidential home. If it means placing a child with a home

1:17:30 > 1:17:35that is not exactly where they have come from, that is a much better

1:17:35 > 1:17:39option than presidential care. And the story about the Tower Hamlets

1:17:39 > 1:17:45case, that was heartbreaking to hear that a child was going through a

1:17:45 > 1:17:48hard time living within a family they felt was so different and going

1:17:48 > 1:17:54through distress. On the flip side, there a need for ethnic minority

1:17:54 > 1:18:00carers at the moment and sometimes stories like that ostracised the

1:18:00 > 1:18:05Islamic faith and ethnic minorities. And they make them feel ostracised

1:18:05 > 1:18:10against society and not wanting to come forward.The story was an

1:18:10 > 1:18:15invention, not just misleading, The Times should be ashamed, it was

1:18:15 > 1:18:18almost completely untrue.Tower Hamlets found the girl was

1:18:18 > 1:18:21relatively happy and has since been placed in the care of her

1:18:21 > 1:18:25grandmother. These are issues we will explore in a minute and Kevin

1:18:25 > 1:18:30will talk about the shortage of foster carers. But a bit more about

1:18:30 > 1:18:34your experience. It was the other way around to begin with. Tellers

1:18:34 > 1:18:38about where you were placed on what that was like.I want to be clear

1:18:38 > 1:18:44this not about cultural or religious issues, the first thing was how I

1:18:44 > 1:18:48was labelled. I identified, my mother was white and I am a

1:18:48 > 1:18:51mixed-race child, but I was identified as black first so that

1:18:51 > 1:18:55confused me and lost me a bit because I was like, why are they

1:18:55 > 1:19:00saying I am black when I am mixed? The first care I had did not care

1:19:00 > 1:19:04about my cultural background and did not want to invest time in that. So

1:19:04 > 1:19:10already, you have failed me. They were Muslim and they were from an

1:19:10 > 1:19:15Asian, Indian background. I wanted to understand, we were kids and

1:19:15 > 1:19:19everything around you embrace a bit. I wanted to embrace them as new

1:19:19 > 1:19:23people in our lives as a four-year-old but we did not get

1:19:23 > 1:19:28that, they were shut off. We were not engaged in their family. They

1:19:28 > 1:19:33did not help to communicate.This was over 20 years ago, 23 years ago.

1:19:33 > 1:19:38He was so young and clearly, you were very vulnerable. And they did

1:19:38 > 1:19:45not embrace the differences. You were very young, but looking back

1:19:45 > 1:19:49with hindsight, why do think there was that difficulty?I remember it

1:19:49 > 1:19:54clearly and I would say you do not realise the impact you have kids.

1:19:54 > 1:19:58And at those times, may the training was not enough. At this point, and

1:19:58 > 1:20:04would say, what are we doing to put carers through a process where you

1:20:04 > 1:20:07will have kids from different backgrounds, help them to learn

1:20:07 > 1:20:12about their identity and how to have an exchange about who they are so

1:20:12 > 1:20:16they embrace it? I have a balanced now of a carer that has lost us and

1:20:16 > 1:20:21also a carer that has found others who helps me understand where I am,

1:20:21 > 1:20:25she says, are mixed-race, your dad is black and your mum is white, what

1:20:25 > 1:20:31does that mean cover where you from? What was her background? She was

1:20:31 > 1:20:37from Trinidad. My dad is from Ghana and Jamaica so I have African and

1:20:37 > 1:20:41Jamaican. What she gave us, the love she gave us, which was authentic and

1:20:41 > 1:20:46real and she did not give up, I began to embrace who she was. So I

1:20:46 > 1:20:51took on that identity. Now she is a mother to me so I have another

1:20:51 > 1:20:55extended family and that is what it should be, an extra family.And look

1:20:55 > 1:21:01clearly is the main bit of this. I know you think that. -- love. And

1:21:01 > 1:21:06one point, the owner has said something similar, it with foster

1:21:06 > 1:21:12care are not about different races, but about having sufficient training

1:21:12 > 1:21:15and appropriate support. You advise the Government on this, is that

1:21:15 > 1:21:18message getting through that the support and training of those people

1:21:18 > 1:21:22willing to change their lives to Bostick is not being provided?I

1:21:22 > 1:21:26think it has got through and for some years, and things have changed

1:21:26 > 1:21:33from Jerome. Do not make assumptions because a child is mixed-race. It

1:21:33 > 1:21:36was cleared to run buttons are primarily white because he lived

1:21:36 > 1:21:43with his mother. -- it was clear that he thought himself primarily

1:21:43 > 1:21:46white. We were at the House of Commons and each social worker

1:21:46 > 1:21:52showed a book teaching white parents bringing up like children, how to do

1:21:52 > 1:21:58their hair and was gone -- the skin products, this is easy stuff and all

1:21:58 > 1:22:03local authorities are sensitive to that.Is the ideal like placed with

1:22:03 > 1:22:09like or is that not necessarily the case?All things being equal, a

1:22:09 > 1:22:13match on racial grounds is a bonus. But the research is very clear, in

1:22:13 > 1:22:17terms of a good outcome from fostering and adoption, it doesn't

1:22:17 > 1:22:21matter. People like Debbie can make the difference because of her energy

1:22:21 > 1:22:25and enthusiasm and her love for the kids she has brought into her home.

1:22:25 > 1:22:31And about the training, I started training 25, 26 years ago and the

1:22:31 > 1:22:37training was very basic. But the love was there and the passion. But

1:22:37 > 1:22:42the training now is unbelievable. And I think it is very important for

1:22:42 > 1:22:47anybody who is going to foster to be part of their posturing family. So

1:22:47 > 1:22:54when we do train, I train with all different kinds of backgrounds --

1:22:54 > 1:23:02foster family. Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, orthodox Jews. I get

1:23:02 > 1:23:08information and courage and determination from other foster

1:23:08 > 1:23:12carers.It is great to hear positive experiences but there are not enough

1:23:12 > 1:23:17and that is the problem.There is a shortfall of about 8,000 carers

1:23:17 > 1:23:22across the UK and that is to make sure children have the right choice.

1:23:22 > 1:23:26It is not just about ethnicity and religious backgrounds, it is the

1:23:26 > 1:23:28right choice to maintain their relationships with their birth

1:23:28 > 1:23:33family and with their school. It is about making sure we look at an

1:23:33 > 1:23:38individual child and think about all their needs and place them with the

1:23:38 > 1:23:41most appropriate foster carer.If there is a shortage of 8,000 and

1:23:41 > 1:23:47Debbie has looked after over 100, how many children is that letting

1:23:47 > 1:23:51down?I think today, a child in need of a foster placement would be in a

1:23:51 > 1:23:55placement and that is really important. 8,000 is about making

1:23:55 > 1:23:58sure we get the right choice placement for the right child. We

1:23:58 > 1:24:03make sure those carers of fully trained and assessed before they

1:24:03 > 1:24:05become foster carers and we have ongoing training and support for

1:24:05 > 1:24:11those carers.There is not a shortage, every child in England

1:24:11 > 1:24:16needing a foster placement is in one, but we have not got the right

1:24:16 > 1:24:19foster carers in the right places and we need to recruit, if possible,

1:24:19 > 1:24:27is surplus, to have a better choice in placing people. There are

1:24:27 > 1:24:32children in homes, very few people are in homes these days.In terms of

1:24:32 > 1:24:36training, young people need to be involved in that. When carers come

1:24:36 > 1:24:41into that, they can understand the genuine experiences young people go

1:24:41 > 1:24:43through and even the assessments. I did assessment when I was younger

1:24:43 > 1:24:50and to say, because I am a child in care, when I come into this house,

1:24:50 > 1:24:55do I feel I get that love and energy?And imagine there is that

1:24:55 > 1:25:00training going on and somebody who is very well known from the only way

1:25:00 > 1:25:03is a six comes in and says, this is the experience I have had. I am

1:25:03 > 1:25:10putting you on the spot, what you think?I am always encouraging new

1:25:10 > 1:25:15carers to come forward and there is a massive demand for ethnic

1:25:15 > 1:25:20minorities to come forward and teenage carers. A lot of people

1:25:20 > 1:25:26coming forward that want, -- become foster carers. That is what we need.

1:25:26 > 1:25:30I have been given an amazing platform to push that out there.Out

1:25:30 > 1:25:37of the training, she would be, you are a child in care and she is a

1:25:37 > 1:25:43child who has cared. Your mother is forging a career!She

1:25:43 > 1:25:48was that high when I first fostered a baby and I fostered just taking

1:25:48 > 1:25:53babies and she was the one playing dolls with the baby.It is important

1:25:53 > 1:25:57people with care experience and people who have experienced young

1:25:57 > 1:26:02people coming into the home are involved in that training and the

1:26:02 > 1:26:07assessment, absolutely necessary. And we often talk about it being a

1:26:07 > 1:26:09short-term measure, increasingly what we know is we need fostering

1:26:09 > 1:26:15carers for the longer term. Young people, into the care system and

1:26:15 > 1:26:19often for the duration of their childhood and there is often a must

1:26:19 > 1:26:22understanding about fostering that we need foster carers who can look

1:26:22 > 1:26:27after perhaps just a single child or a sibling group and it is not always

1:26:27 > 1:26:29people like Debbie you do a fantastic job of caring for hundreds

1:26:29 > 1:26:38of children.We are talking in an as to -- in a very positive fashion.

1:26:38 > 1:26:42Are there still those negative experiences were placements are not

1:26:42 > 1:26:45done in the right way? We have debunked a lot of this story, but is

1:26:45 > 1:26:51that still happening?Of course. We do not get it right first time. Last

1:26:51 > 1:26:57night in the event, Jerome and I were there and there we young people

1:26:57 > 1:27:00with heart-rending stories about their unhappiness. They had been

1:27:00 > 1:27:07with carers who did not look after them and one girl had been kept in a

1:27:07 > 1:27:10home because people were insisted she had to wait for a black family.

1:27:10 > 1:27:15She had waited a year longer for the foster placement.The authorities to

1:27:15 > 1:27:18nervous of placing kids with different backgrounds?They have

1:27:18 > 1:27:23been. As recently as the 1980s, the view was that you must never, ever

1:27:23 > 1:27:28place a child with carers of a different skin colour, that has

1:27:28 > 1:27:32changed radically, but there is still a bit of a delay and caution

1:27:32 > 1:27:37about that. What needs to be done much more in the game does happen,

1:27:37 > 1:27:40people like Jerome need to be asked what they think. Assumption should

1:27:40 > 1:27:47not be made about Jerome's culture because he can talk confidently

1:27:47 > 1:27:51about his life and the things he likes.But there is a difficulty

1:27:51 > 1:27:58when they are two or three.We should not impose a cut on a child.

1:27:58 > 1:28:04There is a fear that young kids do not understand. I was four when I

1:28:04 > 1:28:11went into care and I knew who I was. I want to change the direction. We

1:28:11 > 1:28:17are talking about background and we have not focused on religion. Is it

1:28:17 > 1:28:24preferable that foster carers are perhaps not particularly religious,

1:28:24 > 1:28:29they are secular? Or if they do go to Church or synagogue or a place of

1:28:29 > 1:28:34worship, they are not hardline about it?It is important people come

1:28:34 > 1:28:37forward to look after Children in Need of safety and protection

1:28:37 > 1:28:42regardless of their faith, that they can provide that loving and caring

1:28:42 > 1:28:46home. And where possible, it is important to match children of the

1:28:46 > 1:28:51same fake with foster carers, but that is not the only consideration,

1:28:51 > 1:28:56it should be one of many. And it is important to maintain relationships

1:28:56 > 1:29:00with a birth family and so it is important we have a local placement

1:29:00 > 1:29:04for local children who can maintain those relationships with their birth

1:29:04 > 1:29:08family and friends and their school because that is as much about their

1:29:08 > 1:29:12culture and background as their religion and ethnicity.No doubt

1:29:12 > 1:29:16there will be people watching thinking, I want to do my bit. What

1:29:16 > 1:29:21would you say to them about their motivation? You can all have a go.

1:29:21 > 1:29:25If you are thinking about fostering, do look at the Boston network's

1:29:25 > 1:29:29website and taught your local fostering service, they will be

1:29:29 > 1:29:33interested in talking to you and explaining the process and the level

1:29:33 > 1:29:37of support you will receive because it is important foster carers

1:29:37 > 1:29:41realise they will be supported to care for children who have had the

1:29:41 > 1:29:45most challenging start in their life.If you are thinking about

1:29:45 > 1:29:50fostering, stop thinking and pick up the phone and do it. It is the most

1:29:50 > 1:29:53wonderful experience of my life and I would not have wanted to do

1:29:53 > 1:30:00anything else.She is incredibly persuasive! Would you do it as you

1:30:00 > 1:30:03have got older? Would you consider doing it after seeing the experience

1:30:03 > 1:30:08so closely?Definitely. At the moment, with everything in my life,

1:30:08 > 1:30:14it would not be right, I am not in a position to have my own children as

1:30:14 > 1:30:21yet, but when I mature and I grow up and I have my own children, may be.

1:30:21 > 1:30:26Definitely, it would be something I would consider. I can only speak

1:30:26 > 1:30:30about my parents and I was 13 months when they became carers so I have

1:30:30 > 1:30:34never known different but I can speak about it positively and it

1:30:34 > 1:30:38taught me a lot of life lessons. I was never lonely, I always had kids

1:30:38 > 1:30:44to play with. I loved it and I would 100% consider it when I am a bit

1:30:44 > 1:30:51more settled and I have more children.

1:30:51 > 1:30:55What would you say to people thinking, I could make a difference?

1:30:55 > 1:31:02Would you want your child to have another family? I see the job like a

1:31:02 > 1:31:06hero, because you turn something very painful into something very

1:31:06 > 1:31:11positive. I have two carers who are family, that is it. It is building

1:31:11 > 1:31:21an extended family.Martin?Phone in your local town hall, the Fostering

1:31:21 > 1:31:25Network, you do not need skills, you can be given training, you do not

1:31:25 > 1:31:30need to worry about the sort of child. Suggesting you need a child

1:31:30 > 1:31:34of a similar ethnicity is ridiculous. I have two

1:31:34 > 1:31:38grandchildren, one is half Pakistani, nobody can tell me I do

1:31:38 > 1:31:44not love him as much as the other one! If foster parents are prepared

1:31:44 > 1:31:49to love kids who have been damaged, they can change lives in the most

1:31:49 > 1:31:53fantastic way.The slightly more serious business, undeniably, it is

1:31:53 > 1:31:57a life choice, vitally important, but there is financial support,

1:31:57 > 1:32:02people do make a career out of it, I have talked Foster as many times and

1:32:02 > 1:32:08some have to remain slightly dispassionate about it because there

1:32:08 > 1:32:13are kids who they get close to who move on, be clear about that side of

1:32:13 > 1:32:17it.There is that part of it. Some children will live with foster

1:32:17 > 1:32:25carers forever to adulthood. Your wonderful film of the white girl

1:32:25 > 1:32:28talking about mum and dad, absolutely their child, one side of

1:32:28 > 1:32:34fostering. Others are short-term assessment while we decide what to

1:32:34 > 1:32:38do with people. Love and compassion are still at the centre of it.No

1:32:38 > 1:32:47doubt. Thank you. Jerome, you are still looking after your last foster

1:32:47 > 1:32:51care, brilliant to hear, it goes around in circles! Thank you all

1:32:51 > 1:32:55very much indeed.

1:32:55 > 1:32:56Still to come...

1:32:56 > 1:33:00Would you volunteer to be a "host" for people coming out of hospital?

1:33:00 > 1:33:03A new pilot scheme in Essex is asking people to do just that.

1:33:03 > 1:33:08We'll find out more.

1:33:08 > 1:33:10We'll be talking to the man behind the world's most

1:33:10 > 1:33:14powerful supersonic car, the Bloodhound,

1:33:14 > 1:33:19which is hoping to break a 20-year land speed record.

1:33:19 > 1:33:21Time for the latest news.

1:33:21 > 1:33:22Here's Annita.

1:33:22 > 1:33:24NHS patients recovering after an operation could be moved

1:33:24 > 1:33:27from a hospital bed to a stranger's spare room under radical

1:33:27 > 1:33:29plans being considered by health trusts in Essex.

1:33:29 > 1:33:31Talks are at an early stage but the company behind

1:33:31 > 1:33:39the idea has already started recruiting potential carers.

1:33:39 > 1:33:42More than 300,000 people are leaving the workforce every year

1:33:42 > 1:33:47because of insufficient support for mental health problems.

1:33:47 > 1:33:52A report, commissioned by the Government, says the human

1:33:52 > 1:33:55cost of this is huge and that the loss to

1:33:55 > 1:33:57the economy runs into tens of billions of pounds.

1:33:57 > 1:34:00Now the Prime Minister has instructed the NHS and the civil

1:34:00 > 1:34:06service to do more to help promote the mental wellbeing of their staff.

1:34:06 > 1:34:08The aerospace company Bombardier is to cut 280 jobs

1:34:08 > 1:34:10in Northern Ireland, according to the Unite union.

1:34:10 > 1:34:12It's the latest in a series of job losses at the firm.

1:34:12 > 1:34:15Last year, 1,000 staff were made redundant as part of the company's

1:34:15 > 1:34:21plan to cut costs and increase profitability.

1:34:21 > 1:34:24Four people have been killed in Finland in a collision

1:34:24 > 1:34:27between a train and an army truck on a remote level crossing.

1:34:27 > 1:34:29The defence ministry said three of the dead were soldiers,

1:34:29 > 1:34:39thought to be conscripts doing compulsory military service.

1:34:39 > 1:34:45The number of assaults in prisons has increased to a new high in the

1:34:45 > 1:34:51year to June, 2017. More than 7400 of the attacks were on staff, also a

1:34:51 > 1:34:58record number. The figures show self harm has also risen.

1:34:58 > 1:35:05That is a summary of the latest BBC News. Here is the sport now.

1:35:05 > 1:35:09England have been set a huge target by Australia to win the second one

1:35:09 > 1:35:11day international of the women's Ashes in New South Wales.

1:35:11 > 1:35:14Chasing 285 to win, they've already lost both openers -

1:35:14 > 1:35:16including Tammy Beaumont for 8.

1:35:16 > 1:35:21They are currently 77-3. England struggling.

1:35:21 > 1:35:24West Ham fought back from 2-0 down to beat Tottenham 3-2 and reach

1:35:24 > 1:35:26the quarterfinals of the EFL Cup.

1:35:26 > 1:35:29Chelsea are also through to the last eight after being Everton 2-1.

1:35:29 > 1:35:31Experienced Wasps flanker James Haskell has been left

1:35:31 > 1:35:34out of England's squad for the autumn internationals.

1:35:34 > 1:35:41Exeter back row Sam Simmonds has received his first call-up.

1:35:41 > 1:35:48The first of those internationals is on November 11. Back to you.

1:35:48 > 1:35:50NHS trusts in Essex are looking at plans to allow patients

1:35:50 > 1:35:53who are waiting to be discharged to be moved into private,

1:35:53 > 1:35:57rented, rooms.

1:35:57 > 1:36:05It's to ease pressure on beds in hospital wards.

1:36:05 > 1:36:07The idea has come from an emergency doctor in Southend,

1:36:07 > 1:36:10but NHS England says it's a long way from being implemented.

1:36:10 > 1:36:11It's raised concerns amongst some medical professionals

1:36:11 > 1:36:13and patients' groups.

1:36:13 > 1:36:15Mike Fieldhouse, from the campaign group Save Southend A&E,

1:36:15 > 1:36:16is in our Chelmsford newsroom.

1:36:16 > 1:36:19And here in the studio is Alex Baylis, from the independent

1:36:19 > 1:36:20think-tank The King's Fund.

1:36:20 > 1:36:29Mike, will this save your A&E?Well, I think we have already saved the

1:36:29 > 1:36:33A&E for the moment, that campaign went successfully, got the public

1:36:33 > 1:36:42behind us, local politicians, and for the moment, the local regime has

1:36:42 > 1:36:46backed down on downgrading the A&E. Obviously, the latest proposal is

1:36:46 > 1:36:52another attempt to save money and reduced costs in the NHS.Which

1:36:52 > 1:36:58needs to be done, so what do you think about it as an idea?First of

1:36:58 > 1:37:02all, I would question whether it does need to be done because it is a

1:37:02 > 1:37:05political decision the Government have made to make the cuts

1:37:05 > 1:37:09nationally in England, they are looking to save £20 billion over the

1:37:09 > 1:37:14next three, four years. In the south and mid Essex, they are looking to

1:37:14 > 1:37:19save £400 million. It is a choice by the Government to make the cuts and

1:37:19 > 1:37:25we think some of the things they are doing are going to have very severe

1:37:25 > 1:37:30effects on patients.It is a choice, you are absolutely right, they are

1:37:30 > 1:37:34democratically elected, that is what they are planning to do. Coming back

1:37:34 > 1:37:39to this particular idea, what has been called an Airbnb for the NHS.

1:37:39 > 1:37:46Would you encourage it?No, we think it is a rather ridiculous idea and

1:37:46 > 1:37:50we have serious concerns over the safeguarding of both patients and

1:37:50 > 1:37:54the carers, frail and elderly people are going to be placed in private

1:37:54 > 1:37:58accommodation where the carers have minimal training and the way it has

1:37:58 > 1:38:03been advertised is earn £1000 a month for renting out your spare

1:38:03 > 1:38:08room. It will undoubtably attract the wrong sort of attention.Why do

1:38:08 > 1:38:11you think it will undoubtedly do that? There could be well-meaning

1:38:11 > 1:38:16people who think, I can make £50 a night, do some good for the country,

1:38:16 > 1:38:23win-win?Definitely there will be people who are caring,

1:38:23 > 1:38:27compassionate, feel they can do something for their community. But

1:38:27 > 1:38:30the way it was marketed, we first came to know about it when leaflets

1:38:30 > 1:38:35were handed out in the canteen at the hospital advertising, earn £1000

1:38:35 > 1:38:40a month renting out your spare room. They were not sane, would you like

1:38:40 > 1:38:44to care for somebody? The emphasis, would you like to earn some money?

1:38:44 > 1:38:49This is a way for them to cut costs and move people out of hospital. Who

1:38:49 > 1:38:54have not got any where else to go. It is just because the social care

1:38:54 > 1:38:57in this country is severely underfunded, they are looking for

1:38:57 > 1:39:02cheap methods of addressing this problem.Alex, do you think it is a

1:39:02 > 1:39:05creative idea that could ease of the backlog when it comes to bed

1:39:05 > 1:39:10blocking as we get into a really busy part of the year for the NHS?

1:39:10 > 1:39:16Or is its social care on the cheap? I think part of the problem is the

1:39:16 > 1:39:21number of hospital beds in England has halved since the 1980s, people

1:39:21 > 1:39:24not staying overnight, but very little spare capacity and local

1:39:24 > 1:39:30authority budgets cut by nearly 40% since austerity started. A real

1:39:30 > 1:39:34problem about capacity. Each area is having to think really carefully,

1:39:34 > 1:39:38how do we get people through hospitals and properly looked after

1:39:38 > 1:39:41when they leave hospital, particularly as winter comes?It

1:39:41 > 1:39:47will grab the eye, the Airbnb for the NHS. Earlier in the week, we

1:39:47 > 1:39:50heard the story about operating theatres not being used perhaps as

1:39:50 > 1:39:55efficiently as they could be. Are there efficiencies that could be

1:39:55 > 1:40:00employed to free up beds more quickly? I speak from experience,

1:40:00 > 1:40:05for example, people getting a prescription when they leave

1:40:05 > 1:40:08hospital, they have to wait for the pharmacist to bring it to them.Lots

1:40:08 > 1:40:12of examples like that. No doubt there are more efficiencies that

1:40:12 > 1:40:16could be got out of the system, some hospitals do better than others, six

1:40:16 > 1:40:21R rated as outstanding in the country. But they are under pressure

1:40:21 > 1:40:25because there is a basic problem of constrained number of beds and

1:40:25 > 1:40:28constrained funding in local authorities.If some are doing it

1:40:28 > 1:40:32brilliantly, why is it not best practice filtering quickly through

1:40:32 > 1:40:37the NHS?That is one of the questions for the national bodies.

1:40:37 > 1:40:40The half-dozen outstanding hospitals do demonstrate what they are doing,

1:40:40 > 1:40:44but it does not seem to get replicated quickly in other areas.

1:40:44 > 1:40:49Mike, this is an idea emanating from Essex, do you not think people

1:40:49 > 1:40:55thinking laterally about solving these problems, let us get away from

1:40:55 > 1:40:58the view about government funding, there are problems that need to be

1:40:58 > 1:41:02solved perhaps in other ways, do you not think it is right to be thinking

1:41:02 > 1:41:13in a creative fashion here?We have still got... The primary care is to

1:41:13 > 1:41:16the patient. We have got to make sure they are looked after properly.

1:41:16 > 1:41:22By all means, make efficiencies, we do not want the public's money

1:41:22 > 1:41:26wasted, it has to be spent efficiently, but we have got grave

1:41:26 > 1:41:30concerns about whether this is the best way to go about things.This

1:41:30 > 1:41:35comes up fairly regularly, the elephant in the room here, when it

1:41:35 > 1:41:41comes to the NHS, sorting out social care one central for the future.

1:41:41 > 1:41:47Yes, it is a big problem. The bed blocking, not a particularly nice

1:41:47 > 1:41:52term, we have a lot of frail, elderly people, we have not got

1:41:52 > 1:41:56provision for care in the community for. This is maybe one creative

1:41:56 > 1:42:02solution, but we do not think it is suitable for people.Alex, when it

1:42:02 > 1:42:06comes to NHS and trusts and hospitals doing things differently,

1:42:06 > 1:42:10why in a country the size of ours, not that big, is in not the same

1:42:10 > 1:42:17across the board these days?Well, good reasons for having local

1:42:17 > 1:42:21systems designed for the local areas' characteristics.You do not

1:42:21 > 1:42:25want everything the same. There are some moves afoot with hospitals

1:42:25 > 1:42:30joining up as chains which looking at how to get more standardised

1:42:30 > 1:42:34care, so more assurance we have consistent good practice across the

1:42:34 > 1:42:39hospitals.Alex, Mike, thank very much indeed. We did ask the

1:42:39 > 1:42:44Department of Health for an interview but it declined. It gave

1:42:44 > 1:42:49us a statement saying, this is a locally organised pilot scheme for

1:42:49 > 1:42:53patients following minor operations, not national policy, and to suggest

1:42:53 > 1:42:57it is a cheap substitute the social care is simply untrue. Any schemes

1:42:57 > 1:43:02such as these are subject to the strictest quality controls and

1:43:02 > 1:43:06regulations. We are backing the social care sector with an extra £2

1:43:06 > 1:43:13billion to ensure everyone can access high-quality care.

1:43:13 > 1:43:17Still to come... Can this supersonic car really break the land speed

1:43:17 > 1:43:26record? We will be talking to the vehicle's chief engineer.

1:43:26 > 1:43:32The actor Natassia Malthe has alleged that the Hollywood

1:43:32 > 1:43:34producer, Harvey Weinstein, raped her in a London

1:43:34 > 1:43:35hotel room in 2008.

1:43:35 > 1:43:37She's become the latest woman to make accusations against him.

1:43:37 > 1:43:40So far, more than two dozen women have come forward -

1:43:40 > 1:43:42among them, actresses Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow.

1:43:42 > 1:43:43Mr Weinstein unequivocally denies any allegations

1:43:43 > 1:43:44of non-consensual sex.

1:43:44 > 1:43:49We can listen to Ms Malthe's accusations now.

1:43:49 > 1:43:53I opened the door and his clothes were messy and his face didn't look

1:43:53 > 1:43:56normal and I thought, could he possibly be on drugs?

1:43:56 > 1:44:00He barged into my room.

1:44:00 > 1:44:04Then I remembered he took off his pants and sat on my bed.

1:44:04 > 1:44:09I was feeling panic and I wondered what I should do.

1:44:09 > 1:44:13My mind was racing, what should I do?

1:44:13 > 1:44:17He said that he could give me a movie part in an upcoming film,

1:44:17 > 1:44:19with the implication being that I had to sleep with him

1:44:19 > 1:44:25in order to get it.

1:44:25 > 1:44:29I'm joined by our correspondent, Chi Chi Izundu.

1:44:29 > 1:44:38Another day, another accusation, bring us up to speed.Like you said,

1:44:38 > 1:44:42she accused Harvey Weinstein of forcing himself upon her after the

1:44:42 > 1:44:48Bafta celebrations in 2008. She said he was insistent during the after

1:44:48 > 1:44:51party of finding out exactly which hotel she was staying at and then

1:44:51 > 1:44:55she was awoken in the middle of the night to banging on the door, he

1:44:55 > 1:44:59turned up, he did some sexually explicit things, before forcing

1:44:59 > 1:45:04himself upon her, and said, basically, she would have a role in

1:45:04 > 1:45:09a film starring Daniel Day Lewis and Judi Dench, Marek nine, and she said

1:45:09 > 1:45:14she was humiliated by the ordeal. She and her lawyers say they may go

1:45:14 > 1:45:19to the Metropolitan Police to make a complaint. As yet, they have not

1:45:19 > 1:45:23done so, we checked with the Met Police this morning. This is a long

1:45:23 > 1:45:26list in a number of accusations against Harvey Weinstein. We should

1:45:26 > 1:45:31point out this is not going to go away any time soon. The son of Mia

1:45:31 > 1:45:38Farrow and Woody Allen, also a journalist, he is looking to do

1:45:38 > 1:45:41another big expose on Harvey Weinstein. He wrote the article in

1:45:41 > 1:45:46the New Yorker detailing three alleged rapes. As we know, London,

1:45:46 > 1:45:50New York and LA police forces are looking into sexual assault

1:45:50 > 1:45:59allegations against Harvey Weinstein. He unequivocally denies

1:45:59 > 1:46:04any was nonconsensual. The board that looks after CBEs is actively

1:46:04 > 1:46:10looking after at considering removing the CBE he got in 2004.An

1:46:10 > 1:46:14honorary CBE, a foreign national. Where has that come from, that idea?

1:46:14 > 1:46:20The MP made a complaint and once they receive a complaint, they

1:46:20 > 1:46:27consider it quite actively. She said he was awarded this back in 2004 for

1:46:27 > 1:46:33his outstanding contribution to British film. The board recognises

1:46:33 > 1:46:38these international awards, it is now considering actively whether to

1:46:38 > 1:46:42remove it, the BBC understands. Only a matter of time before we find out

1:46:42 > 1:46:47whether he will be removed. He has already been removed from the Bafta

1:46:47 > 1:46:52membership. The academy awards have removed him. The producer's Guild

1:46:52 > 1:46:58are thinking of removing him. He has been sacked from his own company.

1:46:58 > 1:47:05Time against Harvey Weinstein is coming to an end.

1:47:05 > 1:47:09We have not heard from the man himself for quite a while, as he

1:47:09 > 1:47:14responded to the latest allegation? He has not, as far as we know, he is

1:47:14 > 1:47:18undergoing outpatient rehabilitation treatment so I guess we have to wait

1:47:18 > 1:47:22and see. His lawyer has already quit, one of them, Lisa Bloom.

1:47:22 > 1:47:29Another has already quit as well. So who knows what is going on with

1:47:29 > 1:47:33Harvey Weinstein? It will only take a matter of time, I am sure, before

1:47:33 > 1:47:36he resurfaces.

1:47:36 > 1:47:38Next this morning - it can reach speeds of up

1:47:38 > 1:47:41to a thousand miles an hour and it's hoped it will pass

1:47:41 > 1:47:44the two-decade-old world land speed record of 763 miles per hour

1:47:44 > 1:47:45in two years' time.

1:47:45 > 1:47:47The world's most powerful supercar - the British-built Bloodhound -

1:47:47 > 1:47:50is being tested in Cornwall, where thousands of people

1:47:50 > 1:47:51are expected at lunchtime today.

1:47:51 > 1:47:54In a moment, we'll speak to one of the engineers behind the car,

1:47:54 > 1:47:57but first, let's hear from the man who will be behind the wheel,

1:47:57 > 1:48:03for an insight into what the car is capable of.

1:48:03 > 1:48:05I'm Wing Commander Andy Green, I'm a fighter pilot

1:48:05 > 1:48:08in the Royal Air Force and I'm the driver for the Bloodhound

1:48:08 > 1:48:16supersonic car.

1:48:16 > 1:48:17So, this is a five-tonne, 13.5-metre-longcar.

1:48:17 > 1:48:20I am going to be sitting right here in the cockpit, just in front

1:48:20 > 1:48:21of the jet engine intake.

1:48:21 > 1:48:24The testing here over the last two or three weeks has

1:48:24 > 1:48:27taught us an awful lot of very valuable things.

1:48:27 > 1:48:29OK, this is the back end of the Rolls-Royce CJ 200.

1:48:29 > 1:48:32The most advanced high-performance and most reliable jet engine

1:48:32 > 1:48:35in the history of military aviation.

1:48:35 > 1:48:38In the car, it is not just doing everything it said on the tin,

1:48:38 > 1:48:41we are getting more performance, particularly at slow speeds,

1:48:41 > 1:48:42than we were expecting.

1:48:42 > 1:48:50So off the line, this car is accelerating,

1:48:50 > 1:48:51with this engine, at close to 1.5G.

1:48:51 > 1:48:53That is 30 mph, per second.

1:48:53 > 1:48:58What is our zero to 60 time?

1:48:58 > 1:49:00Well, actually, the engine is still winding up.

1:49:00 > 1:49:03But if we could start with full power, then the car would do zero

1:49:03 > 1:49:05to 60 in two seconds.

1:49:05 > 1:49:06Forget your supercars, forget your high-performance cars,

1:49:06 > 1:49:09this is a high-performance vehicle.

1:49:09 > 1:49:14The ultimate target, once we've got this car tested

1:49:14 > 1:49:19and proven to supersonic speeds, is to find out how fast it is

1:49:19 > 1:49:21it is possible for a land vehicle to go.

1:49:21 > 1:49:23We believe that that answer is 1,000 miles an hour

1:49:23 > 1:49:26and we are going to use this car to prove it.

1:49:26 > 1:49:29Let's speak now to Mark Chapman, chief engineer of the Bloodhound.

1:49:29 > 1:49:34He's with the car in Newquay, where he joins us from.

1:49:34 > 1:49:41I am sure this has been a long time in coming. Tell us about the start

1:49:41 > 1:49:49of this journey for you.Good morning. For me, this is fantastic.

1:49:49 > 1:49:53Giving a chance for the public to see the car for the first time. It

1:49:53 > 1:49:57has just been wielding behind me. It is stunning. We have been working on

1:49:57 > 1:50:04it for ten years and it is still running in tests last week, which

1:50:04 > 1:50:07was awesome and to share that with the public and the media is

1:50:07 > 1:50:12fantastic.It is called Bloodhound, how much blood, sweat and tears has

1:50:12 > 1:50:18gone into the vehicle?Hopefully not too much blood! Quite a lot of

1:50:18 > 1:50:24sweat. It is a passion. Talk to anybody on the project and you cut

1:50:24 > 1:50:28their arm and it says Bloodhound. There is huge passion and enthusiasm

1:50:28 > 1:50:33to make this event possible.We can just see it is being wielding behind

1:50:33 > 1:50:37you. It is a magnificent thing and feel free to look over your

1:50:37 > 1:50:43shoulder. It looks like it is relatively light, if they pushing it

1:50:43 > 1:50:50fairly easily.That weighs five times. The performance is sprightly.

1:50:50 > 1:50:56We think we can go 0- 60 in just over eight seconds. To break the

1:50:56 > 1:51:01land speed record, we will have a rocket system. But it is

1:51:01 > 1:51:04fantastically well and does not have the reverse gear so we have to push

1:51:04 > 1:51:09it back and it does do a 15 point turn! That is pretty rubbish. But in

1:51:09 > 1:51:14a straight line, there is nothing like it. On the runway today later

1:51:14 > 1:51:18on, it will really shake people how impressive it is.I am a scientific

1:51:18 > 1:51:23simpleton with these things, but to my untrained eye, it looks just like

1:51:23 > 1:51:28a plane without wings, is that essentially right?No, it is very

1:51:28 > 1:51:33much a car, it has a steering wheel and a throttle and a brake pedal. It

1:51:33 > 1:51:38looks that shape because it has to be selected to go through the air.

1:51:38 > 1:51:45The force on this car is huge. At 1,000 mph, the pressure is 12 tonnes

1:51:45 > 1:51:49per square metre and 1,000 mph, we break the airspeed record and no

1:51:49 > 1:51:54aircraft has flown as quickly as this will drive at that altitude. It

1:51:54 > 1:51:59is part race car, the front is carbon fibre like a Formula one car,

1:51:59 > 1:52:05the back end is Titania. The lower end is weighed down with a rocket so

1:52:05 > 1:52:10we have a spaceship going behind him to get him up to 1,000 mph so it is

1:52:10 > 1:52:15a jet fighter and a spaceship and a race car combined.We do not want it

1:52:15 > 1:52:19to take off like a jet fighter and display chip so what is it?

1:52:19 > 1:52:26Turnaround and tell us about it, what keeps it on the ground? I am

1:52:26 > 1:52:33sure it is dying to take off.We have been working on the shape, so

1:52:33 > 1:52:38the shape of the car does not generate much left. We can go up to

1:52:38 > 1:52:461,000 mph generating very little lift and we do not want down force.

1:52:46 > 1:52:53It is the shape of the car which is the key to the success. It is very

1:52:53 > 1:53:00low drag and that is the secret of the vehicle. We are 130,000

1:53:00 > 1:53:06horsepower in the desert. So it is about eight times and it would go

1:53:06 > 1:53:10straight up on its end, it would go vertically to 25,000 feet and break

1:53:10 > 1:53:15the sound barrier going up.A phenomenal piece of engineering. How

1:53:15 > 1:53:19much space will you have in the desert is to get up to full speed

1:53:19 > 1:53:27compared to what you have in Newquay?And Newquay, we have the

1:53:27 > 1:53:31runway and we all limited by slowing down, speeding up is easy with this

1:53:31 > 1:53:35car, slowing down is difficult. It is speeding up which is optional and

1:53:35 > 1:53:43slowing down is not. In the desert, we go to 1,000 and covet 11 miles

1:53:43 > 1:53:48and accelerate just over five miles, the measured mile is to be .6

1:53:48 > 1:53:53seconds long, that is 4.5 football pitch is a second and he deploys air

1:53:53 > 1:53:57brakes and parachutes in reserve and wheel brakes at 200 mph.A

1:53:57 > 1:54:03phenomenal experience. A phenomenal vehicle and Andy is a phenomenal

1:54:03 > 1:54:08individual for doing it. I did a 15 point turn in my driving test. I

1:54:08 > 1:54:14would not know where to begin driving that, who would? Clearly,

1:54:14 > 1:54:20Andy does. How'd you prepare for doing that speed and stopping again?

1:54:20 > 1:54:23Andy is part of the design team and he has been part of the project from

1:54:23 > 1:54:28day one and he is as big an impact as the engineers into this car which

1:54:28 > 1:54:32is designed around him. It is the thing is where he wants them to be,

1:54:32 > 1:54:36the steering wheel and the brake pedal and the accelerator pedal and

1:54:36 > 1:54:42the interface. It has a three glass cockpit screen. The test frame, we

1:54:42 > 1:54:47do not give him the keys and say 1,000 mph, away you go. It is very

1:54:47 > 1:54:53measured in accelerating so next year, we will go much faster in the

1:54:53 > 1:54:57desert and get up towards the speed of sound. And put the rocket in and

1:54:57 > 1:55:01go through the sound barrier and take the existing record and put in

1:55:01 > 1:55:06an even bigger rocket and go 1,000 mph.You make it sound so simple, it

1:55:06 > 1:55:12is not that straightforward. What could go wrong, I hate to say?What

1:55:12 > 1:55:19could go wrong? This is an adventure and a journey and we have been quite

1:55:19 > 1:55:24open and saying this is a challenge. 1,000 mph is genuinely difficult and

1:55:24 > 1:55:29not just beating other competitors, it is beating the laws of physics.

1:55:29 > 1:55:34There are things we are running into we will not know until we get to it.

1:55:34 > 1:55:39It is finding out those unknowns. But we could get to 800. Up 400, the

1:55:39 > 1:55:43wheels stopped working and at 800, other things happen and you have

1:55:43 > 1:55:47shock waves around the car and it is how that develops. It is a huge

1:55:47 > 1:55:53laboratory. We are gathering data, 700 sensors, streaming that live

1:55:53 > 1:55:57from the car for people to get involved. They can see that at the

1:55:57 > 1:56:02same time as we do. It is that story and for education, to get people

1:56:02 > 1:56:06excited about science, there is nothing more exciting. At Newquay

1:56:06 > 1:56:11today, we will see a car doing 200 mph in nine seconds, imagine that in

1:56:11 > 1:56:17South Africa going to 800. In something like eight miles. And

1:56:17 > 1:56:23going to 1,000 mph with 20 tonnes of thrust. That is an amazing

1:56:23 > 1:56:27achievement and when people think about the land speed record, this