03/11/2017

0:00:05 > 0:00:07Hello.

0:00:07 > 0:00:09It's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.

0:00:09 > 0:00:11Welcome to the programme.

0:00:11 > 0:00:14Labour suspends Luton MP Kelvin Hopkins as part of the sexual

0:00:14 > 0:00:16harassment scandal engulfing Westminster.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19It comes as former Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon faces

0:00:19 > 0:00:25further allegations just two days after losing his job.

0:00:25 > 0:00:28I think it is a very easy line to draw in parliament

0:00:28 > 0:00:30with MPs and staff who work in parliament, is that if this

0:00:30 > 0:00:35behaviour went on in a school, would that person be disciplined,

0:00:35 > 0:00:38would they be fired?

0:00:38 > 0:00:41And the answer to lots of things that have been said is yes.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44But for some reason, we don't have the same rules.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47We'll be reflecting on the week's events with MPs and former

0:00:47 > 0:00:51Westminster staff and asking what need to change.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53Also this morning.

0:00:53 > 0:00:57A former white supremacist from Arizona whose black probation

0:00:57 > 0:01:00officer helped him turn his back on years of violent race crime,

0:01:00 > 0:01:05tells us why he had to change.

0:01:05 > 0:01:08I became more and more hateful as time grew up,

0:01:08 > 0:01:11so by the time I was a teenager I was very, very active

0:01:11 > 0:01:12in the neo-Nazi lifestyle.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15We'll have the full story after 10.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18New medicines and treatments for some serious conditions could be

0:01:18 > 0:01:20fast-tracked in England - we'll find out which patients

0:01:20 > 0:01:30are likely to benefit.

0:01:34 > 0:01:37Welcome to the programme.

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0:01:45 > 0:01:47We're also talking about taking revenge on your boss

0:01:47 > 0:01:53when you leave a job you hate.

0:01:53 > 0:01:55This after Donald Trump's Twitter account was switched off

0:01:55 > 0:01:59by an employee on their last day.

0:01:59 > 0:02:05What have you done on your last day at work to get your own back on your

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0:02:19 > 0:02:20Our top story today.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23A Labour MP has been suspended by the party after an activist

0:02:23 > 0:02:25accused him of sexual harassment.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28Kelvin Hopkins, who is 76 and has been MP for Luton North for 20

0:02:28 > 0:02:30years, has had the whip withdrawn while the party

0:02:30 > 0:02:31investigates the incident.

0:02:31 > 0:02:3327-year-old Ava Etemadzadeh says she complained

0:02:33 > 0:02:37to officials at the time of the alleged incident two years

0:02:37 > 0:02:41ago, but Mr Hopkins was later promoted to the Labour frontbench.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43Meanwhile, more allegations have emerged about Sir Michael Fallon,

0:02:43 > 0:02:46who resigned as Defence Secretary this week saying his behaviour "fell

0:02:46 > 0:02:49short" of standards.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52He is accused in newspaper reports of making inappropriate sexual

0:02:52 > 0:02:54comments to his Cabinet colleague Andrea Leadsom.

0:02:54 > 0:03:00Sir Michael says he "categorically denies" the allegations.

0:03:00 > 0:03:01Let's speak to our political correspondent

0:03:01 > 0:03:08Iain Watson in Westminster.

0:03:08 > 0:03:14So, tell us first of all about these allegations which have an Hopkins is

0:03:14 > 0:03:17facing.I think it is a story not just about the allegations but how

0:03:17 > 0:03:24the allegations against him have been handled. It has been alleged by

0:03:24 > 0:03:30the young Labour activist that after meeting at the University of Essex

0:03:30 > 0:03:33back in 2013, Kelvin Hopkins hugged her too tightly and intimately for

0:03:33 > 0:03:37her liking for that she met him subsequently in the House of Commons

0:03:37 > 0:03:41and then received a suggestive text message. The crucial thing about

0:03:41 > 0:03:46this, a couple of years ago in 2015, she took her concerns to the then

0:03:46 > 0:03:50Chief Whip of the Labour Party, Rosie Winterton full it was

0:03:50 > 0:03:55discussed and was told if she wanted to make an official complaint, she

0:03:55 > 0:03:59would have to waive her anonymity but was not prepared to do so. We

0:03:59 > 0:04:03understand that Kelvin Hopkins was reprimanded for his behaviour. When

0:04:03 > 0:04:07Jeremy Corbyn was getting into difficulty filling his front bench

0:04:07 > 0:04:13because so many MPs voted for no confidence last year, he temporarily

0:04:13 > 0:04:17promoted Kelvin Hopkins to be Culture Secretary in the Shadow

0:04:17 > 0:04:20Cabinet. That upset not just the activist others in the Labour Party

0:04:20 > 0:04:25he knew he had been reprimanded for his behaviour and have been asking

0:04:25 > 0:04:36today why he promoted. I have run him at home and on his mobile. So

0:04:36 > 0:04:41far he has not commented on this but he has been suspended from the

0:04:41 > 0:04:45Parliamentary Labour Party and is being investigated.Let's also talk

0:04:45 > 0:04:50about the new allegations which are being put against Sir Michael

0:04:50 > 0:04:54Fallon, the former Defence Secretary.This is a rather tricky

0:04:54 > 0:04:59story. Michael Fallon has already resigned. The allegation effectively

0:04:59 > 0:05:04is he made rather lewd suggestions to the Leader of the House of

0:05:04 > 0:05:08Commons, Andrea Leadsom, some years ago. But he categorically denies

0:05:08 > 0:05:13doing so. Andrea Leadsom will not comment on it. This is a bit of a

0:05:13 > 0:05:21multifaceted story. A real-life House Of Cards. It was alleged that

0:05:21 > 0:05:25Andrea Leadsom use those complaints to try to oust Michael Fallon from

0:05:25 > 0:05:28his role as Defence Secretary, clearing the way for Gavin

0:05:28 > 0:05:32Williamson for that she is not commenting on those allegations and

0:05:32 > 0:05:36suggestions in some of the newspapers.Thank you for updating

0:05:36 > 0:05:40us on that.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42Let's go to the BBC Newsroom for a summary

0:05:42 > 0:05:44of the rest of the day's news.

0:05:44 > 0:05:48Good morning.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52Plans to speed up the time it takes for new, life-changing medicines

0:05:52 > 0:05:54to reach patients have been announced by the Government.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56The move follows pressure by the pharmaceutical industry

0:05:56 > 0:05:58and medical charities which say that patients are losing out.

0:05:58 > 0:06:01It could mean certain drugs will be available up to four years earlier

0:06:01 > 0:06:02than they are currently.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05Our Health Editor Hugh Pym reports.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07Medical research is producing exciting new drugs and treatments

0:06:07 > 0:06:10but there have been complaints that it takes too long for them

0:06:10 > 0:06:14to be approved for use by the NHS.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17The Government says it wants to streamline the process in England

0:06:17 > 0:06:20so that new drugs for diseases like cancer and devices to help

0:06:20 > 0:06:23manage conditions like diabetes can be made available

0:06:23 > 0:06:26to patients more rapidly.

0:06:26 > 0:06:28Under what is called the Accelerated Access Pathway,

0:06:28 > 0:06:31the approval process will be cut from as much as seven

0:06:31 > 0:06:32years, to three.

0:06:32 > 0:06:36In April next year, five new drugs and treatments will be selected

0:06:36 > 0:06:37for fast track treatment.

0:06:37 > 0:06:44This number could be increased annually in future.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47At the moment there at various stages that any product,

0:06:47 > 0:06:50whether it's a drug or a device, whatever it is, has to go

0:06:50 > 0:06:52through in terms of regulatory approval or cost effectiveness

0:06:52 > 0:06:54and so on, commercial negotiations with the NHS.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57The idea is to bring them all together to run in parallel

0:06:57 > 0:07:00which will make the process operate much more quickly so that those

0:07:00 > 0:07:03things that really do have life changing impacts on people can be

0:07:03 > 0:07:04brought forward sooner.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07One charity said it hoped the scheme would go some way to ending

0:07:07 > 0:07:11bureaucratic delays and speeding up access to new drugs.

0:07:11 > 0:07:15The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry said

0:07:15 > 0:07:19the Government's policy was very welcome and should benefit

0:07:19 > 0:07:21thousands of patients, but no extra NHS money

0:07:21 > 0:07:24is being committed at this stage to spend on medicines -

0:07:24 > 0:07:28that could hinge on what's decided on the budget.

0:07:28 > 0:07:35Hugh Pym, BBC News.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39There will be more on that story later in the programme when Chloe

0:07:39 > 0:07:43speaks to patients and doctors about how the move affects them.

0:07:43 > 0:07:46The Syrian army has retaken one of the the last major strongholds

0:07:46 > 0:07:48of so-called Islamic State, according to state television.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50The city of Deir al-Zour, near the border with Iraq,

0:07:50 > 0:07:51has been "completely liberated from terrorism"

0:07:51 > 0:07:55according to the report.

0:07:55 > 0:07:57The IS group had held most of the city since 2014.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00The militant group is now confined to a few remaining pockets

0:08:00 > 0:08:01elsewhere in the province.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03Eight former Catalan government ministers have spent a night behind

0:08:03 > 0:08:06bars after a Spanish judge refused to grant them bail.

0:08:06 > 0:08:10They've been charged with rebellion, sedition and misuse of public funds

0:08:10 > 0:08:12in connection with the attempt to make Catalonia

0:08:12 > 0:08:14independent from Spain.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18Tens of thousands of Catalans staged a protest against their detention.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21A warning for you - this report from our reporter

0:08:21 > 0:08:26Tom Burridge contains flashing images from the start.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29In the police vans are eight men and women who a week ago ran

0:08:29 > 0:08:33Catalonia's government.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35Now, taken to a prison in Madrid.

0:08:35 > 0:08:41They face serious charges, including rebellion against the Spanish state.

0:08:41 > 0:08:46A judge denied them bail.

0:08:46 > 0:08:48As the news filtered through, their supporters gathered

0:08:48 > 0:08:54outside the regional parliament in Barcelona.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56Angry...

0:08:56 > 0:08:59..And in shock.

0:08:59 > 0:09:05The government they elected, now behind bars.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07Can you believe it, in a democratic country,

0:09:07 > 0:09:08that these things happen, again?

0:09:08 > 0:09:10We don't understand.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14We are very, very sad, deeply sad, deeply sad, and terrified.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16Madrid argues it has no influence over today's decision

0:09:16 > 0:09:18taken in the courts, but these activists and people

0:09:18 > 0:09:22across Catalonia sympathetic to the pro-independence cause say

0:09:22 > 0:09:29that claim is absurd.

0:09:29 > 0:09:33Many people across Spain and here in Catalonia are also outraged,

0:09:33 > 0:09:38but at Catalonia's pro-independence politicians who have

0:09:38 > 0:09:41pushed things so far.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43Roquelle tells us they have flouted Spain's laws.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47She is worried and says she might move abroad.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50So a new chapter to this Catalan crisis and everyday,

0:09:50 > 0:09:56under the surface here, divisions more entrenched.

0:09:56 > 0:10:01Tom Burridge, BBC News, in Barcelona.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03BBC News has learned that the International

0:10:03 > 0:10:05Development Secretary, Priti Patel, held a series

0:10:05 > 0:10:08of meetings in Israel to discuss government business without telling

0:10:08 > 0:10:10the Foreign Office.

0:10:10 > 0:10:12The meetings took place over two days in August while

0:10:12 > 0:10:15Ms Patel was on holiday in Israel.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18No civil servants were present but she was accompanied by a leading

0:10:18 > 0:10:21pro-Israeli Conservative lobbyist.

0:10:21 > 0:10:31Downing Street has said that Ms Patel did nothing wrong.

0:10:31 > 0:10:36Bacteria in the depths of the Digest of system could help chew Ms shrink

0:10:36 > 0:10:40during cancer therapy. Two studies by French and US teams linked

0:10:40 > 0:10:46specific species of gut bacteria to the successful treatment of cancer

0:10:46 > 0:10:50patients. The findings may be game changing.

0:10:50 > 0:10:53It's emerged that the ashes of the Moors Murderer Ian Brady have

0:10:53 > 0:10:56been buried at sea after his body was cremated last week.

0:10:56 > 0:10:59He died in May at the age of 79, at Ashworth High Security

0:10:59 > 0:11:00Hospital in Merseyside.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Court documents show that the cremation took place

0:11:02 > 0:11:03in Southport without any ceremony.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06Sean Dilley has more.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09Five decades on from crimes that shocked the country, Ian Brady's

0:11:09 > 0:11:12body has been unceremoniously buried at sea.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14There was no music and flowers were not allowed.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17These were the conditions set by the High Court,

0:11:17 > 0:11:20which stepped in over fears his remains would be scattered

0:11:20 > 0:11:22on Saddleworth Moor.

0:11:22 > 0:11:25It was here that Brady and Myra Hindley buried the victims they

0:11:25 > 0:11:28tortured and killed.

0:11:28 > 0:11:32Brady was sent to prison in 1966 for murdering 12-year-old John

0:11:32 > 0:11:36Kilbride, 10-year-old Lesley Ann Downey and 17-year-old Edward Evans.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39In 1985, he also admitted killing 16-year-old Pauline Reade

0:11:39 > 0:11:41and 12-year-old Keith Bennett, whose body

0:11:41 > 0:11:43has never been found.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46He died of natural causes in May of this year.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50In the early hours of Wednesday 26th October, Ian Brady's remains

0:11:50 > 0:12:00were sealed in a weighted urn and sent to the bottom of the sea.

0:12:03 > 0:12:08The NHS is failing thousands of children because it is taking too

0:12:08 > 0:12:11long to diagnose ADHD. That is according to a new report. It

0:12:11 > 0:12:15attacks one child in every class on average in the UK that nearly a

0:12:15 > 0:12:19third of children wait two or more years to be diagnosed. The

0:12:19 > 0:12:23Department of Health said it updated guidance the doctors last year to

0:12:23 > 0:12:28make it easier to spot the condition. There was a shock for

0:12:28 > 0:12:31Twitter users overnight when one of the social media platforms most

0:12:31 > 0:12:39prominent and controversial users had his cant deactivated. --

0:12:39 > 0:12:48account. President Trump's account was deactivated. The social media

0:12:48 > 0:12:54giant says it is taking steps to ensure it never happens again. That

0:12:54 > 0:12:59is a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04Use the hashtag #Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged

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0:13:10 > 0:13:15Now let's get some sport and talk about Patrice Evra, a former

0:13:15 > 0:13:19Manchester United player making the headlines today but not for

0:13:19 > 0:13:22footballing reasons. An extraordinary incident that happened

0:13:22 > 0:13:30before Marseille Europa League match. So if you remember in 1995,

0:13:30 > 0:13:34Eric Cantona comfy kicked a fan in one British football for the most

0:13:34 > 0:13:40outrageous moments. Now another former Manchester United player,

0:13:40 > 0:13:45Patrice Evra, seems to have done something very similar, only this

0:13:45 > 0:13:50time to his own fans. Marseille supporters were unhappy. There it

0:13:50 > 0:13:54was. With Patrice Evra's recent performances, they had cheered him

0:13:54 > 0:14:00for around half an hour. He jumped the advertising hoardings and things

0:14:00 > 0:14:04escalated for could now be facing a ban. He was a substitute in that

0:14:04 > 0:14:08match but was sent off before kick-off. We'll hear more from Uefa

0:14:08 > 0:14:15on that. The manager said, Patrice Evra must learn to keep his cool. Is

0:14:15 > 0:14:20David Unsworth keeping his cool at Everton? Hard for him not to panic.

0:14:20 > 0:14:25They were beaten 3-0 in Lyon last night to go out of the Ropiha

0:14:25 > 0:14:31league. Three of those games have come under caretaker manager

0:14:31 > 0:14:35Unsworth. -- the Europa League. He now says the Premier match with

0:14:35 > 0:14:40Watford on Sunday will be crucial for him and the club. Arsenal are

0:14:40 > 0:14:45through to the last 32 thanks to a goalless draw against red Star

0:14:45 > 0:14:50Belgrade. You see on a Friday morning we are talking about Jose

0:14:50 > 0:14:55Mourinho's, in. He will be speaking to the media. He did that early

0:14:55 > 0:14:58yesterday and has moved training to the afternoon because he is

0:14:58 > 0:15:02appearing in a Spanish court today to face tax fraud allegations

0:15:02 > 0:15:06relating to his time as manager of the Spanish giants, rayal Madrid. It

0:15:06 > 0:15:13is alleged to owe almost formally in dollars in undeclared image rights

0:15:13 > 0:15:16revenue. He denies any wrongdoing. The allegations against him come

0:15:16 > 0:15:20after investigations into several leading footballers in Spain,

0:15:20 > 0:15:25including Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Joe Root has been talking

0:15:25 > 0:15:30about how players should behave between games. England's 's tour

0:15:30 > 0:15:36match begins in the early hours of tomorrow morning in Perth. It has

0:15:36 > 0:15:41been a tumultuous time for England. Ben Stokes was arrested in September

0:15:41 > 0:15:44outside Bristol nightclub. Questions have abounded regarding the conduct

0:15:44 > 0:15:49of the team. They know there have been issues between the two groups

0:15:49 > 0:15:54of players in the past. One even involve Joe Root. This time he is

0:15:54 > 0:15:56warning against being too restrictive about the players can

0:15:56 > 0:16:02do.It's safe to say that what happened in the summer was not

0:16:02 > 0:16:06acceptable. We got to make sure we do not go too far the other way and

0:16:06 > 0:16:13sit in our ruins and not experience being in Australia. It's not about

0:16:13 > 0:16:18going out and getting drunk, it's about making sure we're in the best

0:16:18 > 0:16:24possible place to win Ashes cricket and an Ashes tour.Hopefully flies

0:16:24 > 0:16:31will be the only thing bothering him in the coming weeks!

0:16:31 > 0:16:33As every day goes by, the swirl of allegations

0:16:33 > 0:16:36about sexual abuse and harassment in Westminster looks set to dwarf

0:16:36 > 0:16:39the expenses scandal of ten years ago when parliament was told

0:16:39 > 0:16:43to clean up its act after abuses involving claims for duck houses,

0:16:43 > 0:16:47moats and second homes were revealed to a furious public.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50This morning Labour is facing new claims of sexual harassment

0:16:50 > 0:16:53and has suspended the MP for Luton North, Kelvin Hopkins,

0:16:53 > 0:16:56while it carries out an investigation.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59Meanwhile the former defence secretary Sir Michael Fallon has

0:16:59 > 0:17:03been forced to "categorically deny" reports that he made inappropriate

0:17:03 > 0:17:06sexual comments to Commons leader Andrea Leadsom,

0:17:06 > 0:17:09when they served on a Commons committee together.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12Sir Michael quit his post at the MOD on Wednesday,

0:17:12 > 0:17:15saying his conduct had fallen short of the required standards.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18Some Conservative MPs have also questioned Theresa May's choice

0:17:18 > 0:17:22of the former chief whip Gavin Williamson as the new Defence

0:17:22 > 0:17:23Secretary, saying he lacked experience and had manoeuvred

0:17:23 > 0:17:31himself into the job.

0:17:31 > 0:17:34Mrs May is hold a meeting on Monday with the leaders of the main

0:17:34 > 0:17:37political parties in Westminster to draw up plans for tackling sexual

0:17:37 > 0:17:40abuse and harassment in Parliament.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43Ellie King is a Conservative party member.

0:17:43 > 0:17:53Resham Kotecha worked in Westminster for a Conservative MP and peer.

0:17:53 > 0:18:00We were hoping to speak to a former Labour Party MP but she has just

0:18:00 > 0:18:05pulled out in the last few minutes but we will be talking to a labour

0:18:05 > 0:18:10representative after 10am. First of all, let's talk about the

0:18:10 > 0:18:14allegations against Kelvin Hopkins. What's your reactions to it and the

0:18:14 > 0:18:20week that we've had?I think that it's really important that parties

0:18:20 > 0:18:23come all parties take this issue seriously and I'm really pleased to

0:18:23 > 0:18:27see that parties are reacting quickly. We have to be careful to

0:18:27 > 0:18:30not jump to quickly and have a knee jerk reaction on things that are

0:18:30 > 0:18:33speculation, like the spreadsheet we've seen, but in cases where there

0:18:33 > 0:18:38have been allegations which are serious, it's right that we withdraw

0:18:38 > 0:18:42the whip regardless of the party and make sure the people who are

0:18:42 > 0:18:45affected feel safe and know their concerns will be taken seriously.

0:18:45 > 0:18:49It's interesting you say react quickly, certainly the woman who's

0:18:49 > 0:18:53made these allegations claimed that she made the complaint two years

0:18:53 > 0:18:58ago, Ian Watson told us earlier that the BBC has been told that he was

0:18:58 > 0:19:01reprimanded. So why has it taken two years and why was he then promoted

0:19:01 > 0:19:05to the Labour front bench is? Are the political parties reacting

0:19:05 > 0:19:11quickly in your view?Think they are reacting now it's starting to come

0:19:11 > 0:19:14out, obviously no one monster kick up a fuss but we do need to kick up

0:19:14 > 0:19:20a fuss and we need to react quickly and look at it on a case-by-case

0:19:20 > 0:19:27basis and see what the allegations have been made and take the

0:19:27 > 0:19:33appropriate action.Do you both, having worked in Westminster, do you

0:19:33 > 0:19:36expect there will be more of these allegations coming out over the

0:19:36 > 0:19:42coming days and weeks?It's hard to think that there will not. If you've

0:19:42 > 0:19:45been affected by these sorts of things, I had an amazing three years

0:19:45 > 0:19:50where I didn't, but if you have been affected, sometimes there's strength

0:19:50 > 0:19:54in numbers, you feel like people are finally taking it seriously, light

0:19:54 > 0:19:57is being shed on it and do feel comfortable and safe to come out so

0:19:57 > 0:20:03I we will. So this is why we need an entire shift in the way things are

0:20:03 > 0:20:07treated and dealt with in Parliament. We need an independent

0:20:07 > 0:20:10service that people can go to so it should not be up to an individual

0:20:10 > 0:20:15party did deal with these sorts of allegations, say you have been

0:20:15 > 0:20:20slapped on the wrist and that enough because that might not be enough,

0:20:20 > 0:20:25depending on the circumstances. If we have an independent service, if

0:20:25 > 0:20:28MPs have to sign up to a contractually binding contract about

0:20:28 > 0:20:32their behaviour and they have training of what's acceptable, you

0:20:32 > 0:20:36would see these situations dealt with quickly which they are not at

0:20:36 > 0:20:40the moment.Do MPs really need to be trained on what appropriate and

0:20:40 > 0:20:44inappropriate?I think they do, I'm a student and one of the things we

0:20:44 > 0:20:49talk about all the time is consent and we have actual consent workshops

0:20:49 > 0:20:54and campaigns running through. It doesn't sound ridiculous, I know

0:20:54 > 0:20:58what content is, you would say, -- it does sound ridiculous, some

0:20:58 > 0:21:04people say, I know what consent is but it's that the lines are blurred

0:21:04 > 0:21:11to...You can understand that in the university where young people are

0:21:11 > 0:21:15pushing boundaries but we're talking about elected individuals who are

0:21:15 > 0:21:18grown-ups.There two different things here. The first is that some

0:21:18 > 0:21:22MPs have been MPs for 30 years, they're much older, though not of a

0:21:22 > 0:21:27generation where they realise this is unacceptable and I think it's

0:21:27 > 0:21:31valid to say that they need training on it but if you have spent 30 years

0:21:31 > 0:21:34in a bubble and when you were elected it was okayed to smack your

0:21:34 > 0:21:40secretary on the bottom...Was it? It should not have been but the

0:21:40 > 0:21:44mindset was it was, I think it's a borrowed and appalling but if you've

0:21:44 > 0:21:48grown up with that and you've never been told off for doing it, we

0:21:48 > 0:21:53should cover all bases and make it very clear. A lot of MPs, when they

0:21:53 > 0:21:56walk into the room, they are swamped by people wanting to talk to them,

0:21:56 > 0:22:00have photos with them, and I think it's very easy to lose touch with

0:22:00 > 0:22:05reality. More we can do to make it clear that this is not OK and this

0:22:05 > 0:22:11is where the lines are, the safer employees will be.What were your

0:22:11 > 0:22:15experiences working... I know, Ellie, less so for you, but you work

0:22:15 > 0:22:21in Westminster for a Conservative MP and a baroness, you say you did not

0:22:21 > 0:22:25have any bad experiences yourself, but did colleagues or other women,

0:22:25 > 0:22:30did you see anything? Give us a sense of what it's like to work in

0:22:30 > 0:22:36Westminster.I was fortunate in my three years because a lot of the

0:22:36 > 0:22:42people I worked with were in organisations to get women into

0:22:42 > 0:22:46Parliament so they were very progressive and impeccably behaved.

0:22:46 > 0:22:52But we would have groups of researchers who said, you are

0:22:52 > 0:22:56meeting so and so, don't sit on the same side of the table for them.

0:22:56 > 0:23:02That was just a problem for men and women.Because they will grope you?

0:23:02 > 0:23:06You know, hand on me, those uncomfortable boundaries where you

0:23:06 > 0:23:09think, can I slapped that hand away and I would have that some people do

0:23:09 > 0:23:13not feel comfortable doing it. I never experienced it but we heard of

0:23:13 > 0:23:19a few, a handful, a small handful of MPs who are tarnishing the MP

0:23:19 > 0:23:23reputation. Most do not do that but there are a few where you did not

0:23:23 > 0:23:26want to be alone with them in a room but you didn't want to be with them

0:23:26 > 0:23:31when they were drunk outside in a bar.Let's talk about drinking in

0:23:31 > 0:23:33Westminster because that's something that has been erased. Do you get a

0:23:33 > 0:23:40sense that it's surrounded by drink and fuelled by drink? This is

0:23:40 > 0:23:44something that has been raised.I'm not part of the Westminster

0:23:44 > 0:23:49bubble...You have been to conference.Yes, and it is a part of

0:23:49 > 0:23:53it but in a way it can be good because it makes it more relaxed and

0:23:53 > 0:24:01informal. You're able to go and talk to MPs who you were not able to talk

0:24:01 > 0:24:05to before because you have seen them in a bar and you've seen them in an

0:24:05 > 0:24:08informal way. But there might be pressure and you could feel like you

0:24:08 > 0:24:14didn't not want to be involved in that. It's okayed to be there

0:24:14 > 0:24:16because it creates an informal atmosphere but there are boundaries

0:24:16 > 0:24:20of, is this OK? You could feel pressured to do something you don't

0:24:20 > 0:24:26want to.In addition to that, this is not just a problem in politics,

0:24:26 > 0:24:30what I've seen on social media, spoken to friends in other

0:24:30 > 0:24:34industries, this is a problem in lots of industries. I think our

0:24:34 > 0:24:38parliamentarians should be leading by example. I think the problem with

0:24:38 > 0:24:41the drinking is that if you are the kind of MP who would not cross

0:24:41 > 0:24:48boundaries when sober, you won't do it when you're drunk. If you think

0:24:48 > 0:24:51it's acceptable to do so, you are more likely to do it when you are

0:24:51 > 0:24:55drunk.Do you think there is an unhealthy drinking culture within

0:24:55 > 0:25:00Westminster?I think some people have an unhealthy relationship with

0:25:00 > 0:25:03alcohol and I think that's partly the very long hours, a highly

0:25:03 > 0:25:07pressurised environment and a lot of times you're going to spend your

0:25:07 > 0:25:11evenings and weekends at fundraising dinners, speaking engagements and

0:25:11 > 0:25:16all of these things are surrounded by alcohol. I think it's easy if you

0:25:16 > 0:25:19lack self-control with alcohol to find that you can drink all leaving

0:25:19 > 0:25:24every evening but equally, most people have a healthy relationship

0:25:24 > 0:25:28with alcohol and don't find it a problem. It depends who you are.

0:25:28 > 0:25:33What would be your advice to other young women who want to work at

0:25:33 > 0:25:38Westminster or even just within the workplace, how to deal with this

0:25:38 > 0:25:48kind of uncomfortable... The fact that some MPs could be a bit handsy,

0:25:48 > 0:25:52what would your advice be?I think there are two answers, it depends

0:25:52 > 0:25:58what you are, I would be a strong willed person and if someone did

0:25:58 > 0:26:03that I would be, back off, mate, I don't want this. But some people

0:26:03 > 0:26:06might not feel so comfortable so there does need to be something more

0:26:06 > 0:26:09Independent that you can go to and say, I want to report this and I

0:26:09 > 0:26:14want it to be taken seriously. But I don't really know about what he

0:26:14 > 0:26:19would say to young women because it can be off-putting to feel...And

0:26:19 > 0:26:23intimidating to feel that this is someone in a position of power who

0:26:23 > 0:26:28could help you move on in your job, it's quite a responsibility to say,

0:26:28 > 0:26:31don't do that.Will that mean that that could jeopardise what your

0:26:31 > 0:26:36career is, and is there a sense that if I want to succeed in politics,

0:26:36 > 0:26:42I've got to put up with this? That's where the conversation needs to be

0:26:42 > 0:26:46had. The allegations are coming out and it will be taken seriously and

0:26:46 > 0:26:49people will step back and think about it and hopefully the cultural

0:26:49 > 0:26:55change.I would add to that, it's important to recognise that we would

0:26:55 > 0:27:00be comfortable smacking someone's hand away, but some might not. There

0:27:00 > 0:27:04are a lot of men and women working in Parliament, staff and MPs who

0:27:04 > 0:27:08will back you up so if you have a problem, speak to another MP that

0:27:08 > 0:27:11you feel comfortable with and I would also say, you don't need to

0:27:11 > 0:27:14question whether it's inappropriate or not, if it makes you feel

0:27:14 > 0:27:18uncomfortable, it needs to stop. For too long people have spend time

0:27:18 > 0:27:22worrying, is it that big a deal if someone keeps hugging me when they

0:27:22 > 0:27:26meet me or keep putting their hand on my leg to get my attention? What

0:27:26 > 0:27:29I would say to young people is, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, it

0:27:29 > 0:27:36absolutely is. This is why I think we need an independent service.

0:27:36 > 0:27:38Sometimes it's intimidating to complain to whip or an empty because

0:27:38 > 0:27:44they could be friends with the MP who is making feel uncomfortable

0:27:44 > 0:27:48whereas if there was an interparty cross-party service, you can feel

0:27:48 > 0:27:52safe in the knowledge that it's not scary and impacting your potential

0:27:52 > 0:27:57career and it can be dealt with. Lots of people getting in touch with

0:27:57 > 0:28:01us, Joshua has said, sexual harassment in a workplace had never

0:28:01 > 0:28:05been OK, not 30 years ago or now. Arthur says, consent workshops, is

0:28:05 > 0:28:10this really what it has come to? MPs do not know what's wrong, workshop

0:28:10 > 0:28:15will not be able to teach them. And Paula says, if an MP breaks the law,

0:28:15 > 0:28:21should be reported to the police irrespective of the offence. Thank

0:28:21 > 0:28:24you for coming in. We will be speaking to an MP, Labour MP after

0:28:24 > 0:28:2710am on this issue.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30The Syrian army has retaken the city of Deir al-Zour

0:28:30 > 0:28:32in the east of the country, the last major stronghold of

0:28:32 > 0:28:39so-called Islamic State in Syria.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42IS has held most of the city which is close to the Iraq

0:28:42 > 0:28:44border since 2014 but now state television are reporting that

0:28:44 > 0:28:52"The city is completely liberated from terrorism."

0:28:52 > 0:28:54Let's talk to our correspondent Martin Patience, who

0:28:54 > 0:28:56is in Beirut for us.

0:28:56 > 0:29:06Bring us up to date on, complete control of Deir al-Zour?That's what

0:29:06 > 0:29:09state Syrian TV is reported, although we have had some rogue

0:29:09 > 0:29:14reports that there are still pockets of resistance in the city. To all

0:29:14 > 0:29:16intents and purposes, Deir al-Zour is under the control of Syrian

0:29:16 > 0:29:21forces. This is a significant moment. If we go back three years

0:29:21 > 0:29:25ago, the so-called Islamic State controlled large part of Syria and

0:29:25 > 0:29:33Iraq in what was seen, and what has been seen in the last two years is

0:29:33 > 0:29:40then seeing a rollback in Iraq, and are now in Deir al-Zour. It's close

0:29:40 > 0:29:43to oilfields, Deir al-Zour, so it's significant, and close to the Iraqi

0:29:43 > 0:29:48border. The big question is now what will be what happens to so-called

0:29:48 > 0:29:54Islamic State. Then they no longer have a caliphate and they no longer

0:29:54 > 0:29:59controlled towns and cities but there are still estimated to be

0:29:59 > 0:30:04thousands of fighters believed to be in border areas in Iraq and Syria.

0:30:04 > 0:30:09Let's not forget, the group still has an appeal and that inspired

0:30:09 > 0:30:14attacks in Europe and America. So the so-called Islamic State, the

0:30:14 > 0:30:24self-styled caliphate could be over but the ideology is not.Thank you.

0:30:24 > 0:30:25Still to come.

0:30:25 > 0:30:27Cutting the time patients have to wait for some

0:30:27 > 0:30:30of the newest medicines.

0:30:30 > 0:30:33We will hear from two people with serious medical conditions who hope

0:30:33 > 0:30:37they can be helped by this.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39And young footballers, being frozen out of football

0:30:39 > 0:30:41academies by huge fees being placed on their heads.

0:30:41 > 0:30:49We will hear from when young player and his dad. -- one young player.

0:30:49 > 0:30:50Time for the latest news.

0:30:50 > 0:30:51Our top story today...

0:30:51 > 0:30:54A Labour MP has been suspended by the party after an activist

0:30:54 > 0:30:56accused him of sexual harassment.

0:30:56 > 0:31:00Kelvin Hopkins, MP for Luton North, has had the whip withdrawn

0:31:00 > 0:31:03while the party investigates.

0:31:03 > 0:31:0527-year-old Ava Etemadzadeh says she complained

0:31:05 > 0:31:09to officials two years ago but Mr Hopkins was later promoted

0:31:09 > 0:31:12to the Labour frontbench.

0:31:12 > 0:31:14Meanwhile, more allegations have emerged about Sir Michael Fallon,

0:31:14 > 0:31:16who resigned as Defence Secretary this week.

0:31:16 > 0:31:19He is accused in newspaper reports of making inappropriate sexual

0:31:19 > 0:31:23comments to his Cabinet colleague Andrea Leadsom.

0:31:23 > 0:31:29Sir Michael says he "categorically denies" the allegations.

0:31:29 > 0:31:32Plans to speed up the time it takes for new, life-changing medicines

0:31:32 > 0:31:35to reach patients have been announced by the Government.

0:31:35 > 0:31:37The move follows pressure by the pharmaceutical industry

0:31:37 > 0:31:41and medical charities which say that patients are losing out.

0:31:41 > 0:31:44It could mean certain drugs will be available up to four years earlier

0:31:44 > 0:31:47than they are at the moment.

0:31:47 > 0:31:50Eight former Catalan government ministers have spent a night behind

0:31:50 > 0:31:53bars after a Spanish judge refused to grant them bail.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56They've been charged with rebellion, sedition and misuse of public funds

0:31:56 > 0:31:58in connection with the attempt to make Catalonia

0:31:58 > 0:32:00independent from Spain.

0:32:00 > 0:32:10Eight former Catalan government ministers have spent a night behind

0:32:10 > 0:32:16Tens of thousands of Catalan stage protests. It was claimed they may

0:32:16 > 0:32:24destroy evidence if released. A European arrest warrant has been

0:32:24 > 0:32:29requested for the former leader of Catalan.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31BBC News has learned that the International

0:32:31 > 0:32:33Development Secretary, Priti Patel, held a series

0:32:33 > 0:32:35of meetings in Israel to discuss government business without telling

0:32:35 > 0:32:36the Foreign Office.

0:32:36 > 0:32:39The meetings took place over two days in August while Ms Patel

0:32:39 > 0:32:40was on holiday in Israel.

0:32:40 > 0:32:43No civil servants were present but she was accompanied by a leading

0:32:43 > 0:32:44pro-Israeli Conservative lobbyist.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47Downing Street has said that Ms Patel did nothing wrong.

0:32:47 > 0:32:49It's emerged that the ashes of the Moors murderer Ian Brady

0:32:49 > 0:32:52were buried at sea in the middle of the night after he was

0:32:52 > 0:32:53cremated last week.

0:32:53 > 0:32:56Brady died in May at the age of 79, at Ashworth High Security

0:32:56 > 0:32:57Hospital in Merseyside.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59Court documents show that the cremation took place

0:32:59 > 0:33:04in Southport without any ceremony.

0:33:04 > 0:33:09His body had been kept in a hospital mortuary since his death. Brady and

0:33:09 > 0:33:17his accomplice Myra Hindley tortured and killed children in the 1960s.

0:33:17 > 0:33:18That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:33:18 > 0:33:21Here's some sport now with Hugh Woozencroft.

0:33:21 > 0:33:27In sport this morning, Patrice Evra, the former Manchester United

0:33:27 > 0:33:31defender, could be in trouble with Uefa after appearing to aim a kick

0:33:31 > 0:33:35out of supporter of his current team, Marseille at last night that

0:33:35 > 0:33:39he was sent off before the match was not Marseille has said it will

0:33:39 > 0:33:45conduct an internal investigation. Everton have now lost five matches

0:33:45 > 0:33:51in a row for the first time in five years. Arsenal made it through after

0:33:51 > 0:33:56a draw against red Star Belgrade was a Jose Mourinho is appearing in a

0:33:56 > 0:33:59Spanish court this morning, facing tax fraud allegations relating to

0:33:59 > 0:34:06his time as manager of Real Madrid. It is claimed he owes £3.5 million

0:34:06 > 0:34:11but denies any wrongdoing. Ahead of their first tour match in Australia

0:34:11 > 0:34:14tomorrow, England cricket captain Joe Root says it is important to get

0:34:14 > 0:34:18the balance right for the players as to what they can do off the field

0:34:18 > 0:34:23between games. There had been criticism about the player's on diet

0:34:23 > 0:34:32after Alex Hales and Ben Stokes had a night out in September.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34If you suffer from a serious illness or chronic health condition,

0:34:34 > 0:34:37then of course, you're going to want access to the very best

0:34:37 > 0:34:38drugs on the market.

0:34:38 > 0:34:41It's devastating to be told treatments might take years to be

0:34:41 > 0:34:42approved for NHS use.

0:34:42 > 0:34:44Well now the Government is to cut the time patients

0:34:44 > 0:34:47have to wait for certain new medicines in England.

0:34:47 > 0:34:49From April next year, the approvals process could be cut

0:34:49 > 0:34:51by up to four years for products with the greatest

0:34:51 > 0:34:52potential to change lives.

0:34:52 > 0:34:55It's expected that around five new treatments will be selected

0:34:55 > 0:34:57by a panel of experts for fast-tracking each year.

0:34:57 > 0:34:59Let's speak to Professor Richard Barker who advised

0:34:59 > 0:35:05on the Accelerated Access Review.

0:35:05 > 0:35:06And Dr Richard Torbett, the executive director

0:35:06 > 0:35:10of the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry,

0:35:10 > 0:35:12about the impact these new medicines will have on patients

0:35:12 > 0:35:17And the people this affects.

0:35:17 > 0:35:20Andrew McCracken is expected to be blind by his late 30s but hopes

0:35:20 > 0:35:25the Accelerated Access Scheme may help him.

0:35:25 > 0:35:29And Lynsey Beswick has Cystic Fibrosis.

0:35:29 > 0:35:32The drug she needs, Orkambi, was licensed in the UK two years ago

0:35:32 > 0:35:39but is not available on the NHS.

0:35:39 > 0:35:43Thank you all for joining us. First of all, tell us about the drug you

0:35:43 > 0:35:49would like to get hold of and what difference it would make to you?My

0:35:49 > 0:35:53eyesight condition affects my central vision. I cannot see your

0:35:53 > 0:36:00face, for instance. I know you are there cannot see your face. Mine is

0:36:00 > 0:36:03degenerative or overtime will get worse. There is a point of time

0:36:03 > 0:36:06where I would expect to be blind. The current treatments they are

0:36:06 > 0:36:09trialling focus on stopping the degradation. The idea it would take

0:36:09 > 0:36:16seven years for it to take from being OK means I could have lost my

0:36:16 > 0:36:21eyesight in that time. The idea of this could be completely sped up is

0:36:21 > 0:36:27a lot of hope to me.Probably Lindsay as well. Let's hear from

0:36:27 > 0:36:31her. Tell us about the drug you would like to access, the difference

0:36:31 > 0:36:39in make to your life.The drug is a precision medicine rather than

0:36:39 > 0:36:42treating the symptoms, the current treatment for cystic fibrosis, it

0:36:42 > 0:36:49would treat the underlying cause. I have seen in the past year, to

0:36:49 > 0:36:53years, quite a decline in lung function. Had I have had access to

0:36:53 > 0:36:59this drug when it was licensed, two years ago, it could have prevented

0:36:59 > 0:37:07that decline. I am at a point where I am looking at the end of stage of

0:37:07 > 0:37:12my condition and possibly a double lung transplant. Having access to a

0:37:12 > 0:37:18drug like this could prevent me from deteriorating with my health.Do you

0:37:18 > 0:37:22get angry that you know the drug is out there that could help you that

0:37:22 > 0:37:28you cannot get hold of it?It is incredibly frustrating. It is like a

0:37:28 > 0:37:33carrot that has been dangled. It feels as though the drug is there

0:37:33 > 0:37:37and is available. I had to sit and watch my health deteriorate knowing

0:37:37 > 0:37:41medicine is out there which could potentially have been able to stop

0:37:41 > 0:37:47the decline but I have no access to it.Why is it these drugs are not

0:37:47 > 0:37:59available on the NHS?We have a complicated pass the parcel process.

0:37:59 > 0:38:02Data is presented to the regulatory authorities and then it moves to the

0:38:02 > 0:38:10next stage. Nice will make its evaluations, sometimes in two all

0:38:10 > 0:38:14three stages. The NHS decides whether it will pay for it. This

0:38:14 > 0:38:19pass the parcel can take five, seven years even once the data is

0:38:19 > 0:38:22available that the drug works this is about collapsing the process and

0:38:22 > 0:38:26having many of the discussion simultaneously. No reason why that

0:38:26 > 0:38:31should not take place. The new pathway, accelerated access path

0:38:31 > 0:38:35brings together the people who have to have that composition as early as

0:38:35 > 0:38:44possible.Who decides which of these drugs, there will be five year that

0:38:44 > 0:38:47will be fast tracked, which some people say does not sound many, who

0:38:47 > 0:38:50will decide that?The partnership itself, which will be chaired by Sir

0:38:50 > 0:38:57Andrew witty, will have all of the people around the table, including

0:38:57 > 0:39:04patients and representatives and Nice. I suspect what will happen is

0:39:04 > 0:39:09a small number will come forward who satisfy a set of criteria and they

0:39:09 > 0:39:13will decide which five. I am sure everybody would hope if the

0:39:13 > 0:39:17experience with this is successful we might go to expand the number

0:39:17 > 0:39:23over time.This is ultimately going to make drugs cheaper, as I

0:39:23 > 0:39:26understand it. Some money will be given to the pharmaceutical industry

0:39:26 > 0:39:31to speed up the process and in return, you sell them back to the

0:39:31 > 0:39:36NHS cheaper.We hope these measures will result in many benefits,

0:39:36 > 0:39:41including costs to the NHS. These stories are perfect examples of

0:39:41 > 0:39:46where, when a medicine is available, it is incredibly frustrating for

0:39:46 > 0:39:55everyone, including the pharmaceutical companies that

0:39:55 > 0:39:57patients cannot get access. Many conditions are untreatable. When we

0:39:57 > 0:40:00really produce something it have to get to patients as soon as possible.

0:40:00 > 0:40:05It is a step in the right direction. Cost is always an issue for the NHS.

0:40:05 > 0:40:10You mention that Nice has to make the decision about benefit over

0:40:10 > 0:40:13cost. Presumably the pharmaceutical industry could be doing more about

0:40:13 > 0:40:18ensuring the cost comes down.That is right. Cost is an important

0:40:18 > 0:40:23factor. It is important that pharmaceutical companies price

0:40:23 > 0:40:27responsibly. Nice is there to check whether prices that are charged are

0:40:27 > 0:40:31reasonable value. This announcement from the Government is about making

0:40:31 > 0:40:41sure that dialogue

0:40:44 > 0:40:46between the company and the NHS Athens as quickly as possible. The

0:40:46 > 0:40:48price has to be right but a realistic amount of investment has

0:40:48 > 0:40:51to be made available in order to make this vision work.Do you feel

0:40:51 > 0:40:54heartened by this? It is only five drugs or treatments that would be

0:40:54 > 0:40:56made available each year, how frustrating would it be if your drug

0:40:56 > 0:41:00when number six or Number 10?I am hoping if this is made available for

0:41:00 > 0:41:05a small number of drugs they will think, hopefully, this can be made

0:41:05 > 0:41:09available for more drugs. Hopefully it can be rolled out to other drugs

0:41:09 > 0:41:14and treatment.What about you?I think it is important that the

0:41:14 > 0:41:19Government is looking at this and anything which can speed up access,

0:41:19 > 0:41:23people like me, to access these life changing drugs, is a positive step

0:41:23 > 0:41:29in the right direction.Do you think, Professor Barker, the

0:41:29 > 0:41:32pharmaceutical industry should be doing more to make sure the cost

0:41:32 > 0:41:38comes down for drugs?Would it help the process? The prices in the UK

0:41:38 > 0:41:43arm among the lowest in Europe. What I think the problem is that the real

0:41:43 > 0:41:47discussions about prices are protracted discussions. Part of the

0:41:47 > 0:41:51proposals here are to have the discussions, as Richard was saying,

0:41:51 > 0:41:56much more rapidly, so we get to a good answer and do not take two or

0:41:56 > 0:42:07three years to do so.

0:42:14 > 0:42:16What could the pharmaceutical industry be doing? People at home

0:42:16 > 0:42:19will be sitting and saying, we often read in the media that

0:42:19 > 0:42:21pharmaceutical companies keep the cost of drugs artificially high.

0:42:21 > 0:42:24They do research but there is no need for it to be so high. Surely

0:42:24 > 0:42:26there are things you could be doing to help people.The pharmaceutical

0:42:26 > 0:42:28industry does not keep the costs artificially high. There is a very

0:42:28 > 0:42:31rigorous process for checking that prices are reasonable in the UK

0:42:31 > 0:42:33through Nice. The vast majority of time medicines are available but it

0:42:33 > 0:42:39takes a long time to make a decision on that. That is why the accelerated

0:42:39 > 0:42:42access review will speed things up and that is a good thing.I wonder

0:42:42 > 0:42:46if you have any questions for our guests. You are at the heart of

0:42:46 > 0:42:53this, the people whose lives are affected on a day-to-day basis.Less

0:42:53 > 0:42:58a question and more of a plea. If a small number of drugs are to be made

0:42:58 > 0:43:01available, let's make sure they are drugs that matter to people and

0:43:01 > 0:43:05you're going to speak to patients and patient groups to find out what

0:43:05 > 0:43:09really matters and what will have the most impact.Will that happen?

0:43:09 > 0:43:17Do we know how they will go about the research process?I'm sure they

0:43:17 > 0:43:23will have to develop some objective criteria. That is the only way the

0:43:23 > 0:43:26process can work. People representing patients will be in

0:43:26 > 0:43:30that discussion. That is a big step forward, I think. Typically we have

0:43:30 > 0:43:34left the patient out of it or late in the process. Patient

0:43:34 > 0:43:39representatives will be part of the discussion. What benefits do they

0:43:39 > 0:43:45value? They may not be the benefits that companies or college is --

0:43:45 > 0:43:51clinicians want to measure. Does this look like an innovation that is

0:43:51 > 0:43:55not just drugs?Do you feel you are listening to have someone with

0:43:55 > 0:43:58cystic fibrosis. You know you're drug is out there and has been

0:43:58 > 0:44:04available for two years but you cannot access it. Do you feel like

0:44:04 > 0:44:08you are listened to?Not particularly, no. This drug has been

0:44:08 > 0:44:15found to be effective and found to reduce lung function declined by

0:44:15 > 0:44:2442%, reduce hospital admissions by 61%. So, the evidence is there. Our

0:44:24 > 0:44:28whole community, we have had a campaign around this, to say this

0:44:28 > 0:44:33drug is really important. For somebody to start this drug at a

0:44:33 > 0:44:38very young age could give them a nearly normal life expectancy.

0:44:38 > 0:44:43Currently, many with cystic fibrosis do not make it to the 31st birthday.

0:44:43 > 0:44:49This is huge and significant and we do not have access to it. I think

0:44:49 > 0:44:52the access review and the pathway are really important in trying to

0:44:52 > 0:44:57ensure if we have these drugs available, they are licensed and we

0:44:57 > 0:45:01as patients can have access to them. Thank you for putting so eloquently

0:45:01 > 0:45:08and thank for joining us.

0:45:08 > 0:45:12Tuesday's truck attack in New York killed eight people. The Islamic

0:45:12 > 0:45:17State group said it planned the attack where the suspects allegedly

0:45:17 > 0:45:22drove along a Manhattan sidewalk path to cause maximum devastation.

0:45:22 > 0:45:27It's now emerged that he was an Uber driver and this British tourist road

0:45:27 > 0:45:30with him a week before the attack.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25Lots of you have been getting in touch with us about the conversation

0:47:25 > 0:47:29we had early on about harassment in Westminster. John e-mailed said, why

0:47:29 > 0:47:34is there even a bar in Parliament in a first-place? Normal workplaces do

0:47:34 > 0:47:39not have bars and you are not allowed to drink, the bar should be

0:47:39 > 0:47:46close. Claire has treated, P. Saying it was acceptable ten years ago? --

0:47:46 > 0:47:51will people stop saying it was acceptable ten years ago, it wasn't?

0:47:51 > 0:47:56And this one says, I have been assaulted three times and it has

0:47:56 > 0:48:00just been swept under the carpet at work.

0:48:00 > 0:48:03Parents are claiming children are being frozen out of the football

0:48:03 > 0:48:05academy system because of huge fees placed over their heads

0:48:05 > 0:48:07by controversial youth development rules.

0:48:07 > 0:48:09A 5Live investigation has found in some cases,

0:48:09 > 0:48:12youth players aren't able to sign for another team without

0:48:12 > 0:48:14the new club handing over tens of thousands

0:48:14 > 0:48:17of pounds in compensation.

0:48:17 > 0:48:25We can now speak to Adrian Goldberg from 5Live Investigates.

0:48:25 > 0:48:29Explain to us first of all what a investigation found about the

0:48:29 > 0:48:37agreements. Put in place of a child signed up to a club?You have got a

0:48:37 > 0:48:43talented young footballer who could sign up to an Academy, the youth

0:48:43 > 0:48:47system, the problem comes when something goes wrong. If the club

0:48:47 > 0:48:50that you have signed up for does not want to release you or if they

0:48:50 > 0:48:54decide that they want to hold onto your registration, you are free to

0:48:54 > 0:49:04move to another club but the catch is that other club house to pay this

0:49:04 > 0:49:09compensation, effectively a transfer fee for a child. So someone you are

0:49:09 > 0:49:23talking to in a moment,, they are going from one club to another, but

0:49:23 > 0:49:29Derby County says that a lot of money is going to have to be paid. I

0:49:29 > 0:49:33spoke to another father of a nine-year-old child who had been

0:49:33 > 0:49:38training with his local football club Academy, a well-known Premier

0:49:38 > 0:49:41League club, his father decided that the lad was and get the freedom he

0:49:41 > 0:49:44wanted to express himself and the coaching wasn't all it was cracked

0:49:44 > 0:49:49up to be, the club have agreed to let him leave but they still retain

0:49:49 > 0:49:55his registration so if he wants to sign up for another club and father

0:49:55 > 0:50:00his football career at the age of the year -- further his football

0:50:00 > 0:50:06career at the age of nine, he had a £3000 price on his head and that is

0:50:06 > 0:50:09making parents angry.What are the compensation fees for and when were

0:50:09 > 0:50:14they brought in?The football league clubs agreed with the Premier League

0:50:14 > 0:50:16in 2011 that there needed to be a change in the system. Previously if

0:50:16 > 0:50:23you are signed to an Academy youth scheme, another club could come in

0:50:23 > 0:50:27and sign new and effectively poach you and a fee would be decided by a

0:50:27 > 0:50:30tribunal. That left some clubs feeling rather disgruntled that they

0:50:30 > 0:50:36were not getting sufficient back for the time and money they had spent on

0:50:36 > 0:50:38coaches and facilities and the investment they put in to young

0:50:38 > 0:50:44players. Agreements across professional football were brought

0:50:44 > 0:50:48into being in 2011 and from then on, depending on the quality of the

0:50:48 > 0:50:52Academy and the age of the player, there would be a fixed compensation

0:50:52 > 0:50:56scheme so everybody would understand what was going on and that was in

0:50:56 > 0:51:00order to protect the investment of the clubs in the young players. The

0:51:00 > 0:51:03question is whether that system of compensation is really fair on the

0:51:03 > 0:51:08young people, the children at the heart of this story.You mentioned

0:51:08 > 0:51:13the case of Zack who we will be speaking to in the next few minutes,

0:51:13 > 0:51:19tell us what the response was from his club, Derby County, and the

0:51:19 > 0:51:22football league.Derby County said it would be inappropriate to comment

0:51:22 > 0:51:26about an under 18-year-old, and they say they take great pride in their

0:51:26 > 0:51:29pastoral care at a football club and they retain their rights to

0:51:29 > 0:51:35compensation and a deal which has been agreed across the game. The

0:51:35 > 0:51:37English football league says competition structure was agreed

0:51:37 > 0:51:45across football as a whole, they say 90% of young players who moved to

0:51:45 > 0:51:57not attract fee. They say they are protecting the rights of players and

0:51:57 > 0:52:01clubs.

0:52:01 > 0:52:03We can now speak to 15-year-old Zac Brunt.

0:52:03 > 0:52:06He's registered to Derby County Academy which is asking

0:52:06 > 0:52:08for a £120,000 compensation fee to allow him to sign

0:52:08 > 0:52:09to another club.

0:52:09 > 0:52:13He's joined by his father Glen Brunt.

0:52:13 > 0:52:16First of all, you have clearly got a huge talent, what age where you when

0:52:16 > 0:52:24it was spotted?It was necessary. Really?Yeah, I used to watch my

0:52:24 > 0:52:29brother play football and that's where it started. And then in

0:52:29 > 0:52:33nursery, my teacher rang up my parents and said, he's better than

0:52:33 > 0:52:37people I've seen before so maybe you should look into it.How old were

0:52:37 > 0:52:45you when you got signed for a youth academy?I was nine, I was training

0:52:45 > 0:52:51with Sheffield United from age five to nine, and then I signed at nine

0:52:51 > 0:52:55at Aston Villa.So you have been to several different clubs, you are at

0:52:55 > 0:53:02Derby Co, that is where you are now, you are unhappy and you want to

0:53:02 > 0:53:07leave?I want to leave because I don't think the training is pushing

0:53:07 > 0:53:11me enough. Or as much as it should be. We spend more and more time in

0:53:11 > 0:53:15the gym instead of out in the pitch. I felt like I wasn't getting

0:53:15 > 0:53:23anywhere. And also, we had a bit of a problem with foot cell...

0:53:23 > 0:53:28Explained that for me?It's an indoor five a side with the ball

0:53:28 > 0:53:36that doesn't bounce, it's very tactical and its four technical

0:53:36 > 0:53:40players, I play that at a national level and they did not want me to do

0:53:40 > 0:53:44that, they did not want me to pursue that sport which we were

0:53:44 > 0:53:47disappointed by because we thought it improved my football game as

0:53:47 > 0:53:54well. I felt like we were not getting anywhere at Derby.At what

0:53:54 > 0:54:00point, Glenn, did you realise that there was this clause, £120,000, for

0:54:00 > 0:54:05Zack to go?I have to be fair, I knew what we were entering into from

0:54:05 > 0:54:12the get go. But that's only because I got information from other parents

0:54:12 > 0:54:16with older children in the system. Presumably you had a contract?Yes,

0:54:16 > 0:54:25yes. But he signed three contracts over his time and none of the club's

0:54:25 > 0:54:30point out the situation if you want to leave and they wants to retain

0:54:30 > 0:54:36you. So the compensation conversation never takes place. We

0:54:36 > 0:54:43were informed by other people but I know the majority of parents are not

0:54:43 > 0:54:49aware of it.You know why it's so high? It's not normally so high,

0:54:49 > 0:54:56it's normally 40,000 for a player of his age.When it reaches Zack's...

0:54:56 > 0:55:01My wife knows this better than me! It equates to £40,000 per year that

0:55:01 > 0:55:07he's been at Derby, there's a bit of a discrepancy over whether its 80 or

0:55:07 > 0:55:11120 because he has been there for two years, so that's 80,000, a third

0:55:11 > 0:55:17year that we agreed to enter into that we have pulled out of. So we

0:55:17 > 0:55:21are not sure whether its 8120.There are other clubs interested in you

0:55:21 > 0:55:27right now?Yes, there have been, but the sea is getting in the way

0:55:27 > 0:55:34because it's so big. -- the fee. Clubs do not want to pay 120,000 for

0:55:34 > 0:55:40a 16-year-old so it's fair enough. How long does this last, how long

0:55:40 > 0:55:43with this price tag effectively be on your head?As we understand it,

0:55:43 > 0:55:51there's no real cut-off.You can't be 24 and still have to pay it.They

0:55:51 > 0:55:54hold your registration, as soon as you signed up certain contracts that

0:55:54 > 0:56:01they do not tell you about, they hold your registration until someone

0:56:01 > 0:56:06buys you out.Can you understand, if a club has found you, a huge talent

0:56:06 > 0:56:10spotted at nursery, they invest coaching facilities and support you,

0:56:10 > 0:56:13they have to have some money because if Manchester United come along and

0:56:13 > 0:56:19make you and you go along to be the next Ronaldo, there's no incentive

0:56:19 > 0:56:25for smaller clubs to have and academy.I agree with that, that

0:56:25 > 0:56:31should be put in place and I agree to an extent but because I've only

0:56:31 > 0:56:38been at Derby for two years, and what they've done for me, it

0:56:38 > 0:56:43identified it equates to £120,000. Being 15, -- I don't think it

0:56:43 > 0:56:50equates to £120,000. For 15 years old, and two years, have I cost them

0:56:50 > 0:56:56£120,000? Probably not.It is worth reiterating what Derby County have

0:56:56 > 0:56:59said, they say it's inappropriate to comment on the development of a

0:56:59 > 0:57:06player below the age of 18, as a category one Academy, our entire

0:57:06 > 0:57:08operation is regularly assessed and we are classified in the highest

0:57:08 > 0:57:18echelons in country. Rules for any player who has left the Academy and

0:57:18 > 0:57:23will follow the regulations created and agreed by the entire football

0:57:23 > 0:57:26community. Do you worry about the impact that talking will have on

0:57:26 > 0:57:31your career?Yes, I think this could be the end of my career. If the club

0:57:31 > 0:57:37does not want to pay £120,000 for me, we have a real problem because I

0:57:37 > 0:57:40can't go anywhere else rather than semiprofessional and that is the

0:57:40 > 0:57:43highest I can go until a professional team buys me out of the

0:57:43 > 0:57:49schools. So if they don't, I'm stuck.Thank you for talking to us.

0:57:49 > 0:57:51Let's get the weather now.

0:57:54 > 0:57:58For many of us it was pretty cloudy this morning and we had some thick

0:57:58 > 0:58:02fog patches across southern areas, that is just one picture we had a

0:58:02 > 0:58:06bit earlier on. Much of that is now listing and clearing to give some

0:58:06 > 0:58:11sunshine, although saying that for many of us it will stay mostly

0:58:11 > 0:58:17cloudy despite the fog and a bit of sunshine across southern areas.

0:58:17 > 0:58:20Further north, cloudy skies and our bricks of rain moving into the far

0:58:20 > 0:58:23north-west of Scotland, eventually the far north-west of Northern

0:58:23 > 0:58:30Ireland. Let's pick things up at 3pm. The best of the sunshine will

0:58:30 > 0:58:34be across southern areas. The fog taking another few hours to clear

0:58:34 > 0:58:41away from there but we will get some good styles of sunshine. There could

0:58:41 > 0:58:44be some spots of rain in central areas. Brighter skies in the

0:58:44 > 0:58:48north-east of England and the far north-east of Scotland but western

0:58:48 > 0:58:53Scotland has thick cloud and our bricks of rain. If you are heading

0:58:53 > 0:58:59to a fireworks display this evening, for many of us it will be dry, a

0:58:59 > 0:59:05fair amount of cloud around, some main areas of rain in Northern

0:59:05 > 0:59:08Ireland and into Scotland, the best of the drier weather is going to

0:59:08 > 0:59:16become more out -- extensive. It will be quite heavy into Saturday

0:59:16 > 0:59:21morning in central and eastern areas. Temperatures in double

0:59:21 > 0:59:29figures. Clearer skies means it will turn holder. During Saturday, that

0:59:29 > 0:59:33area of rain will push away to the east, it will take until late in the

0:59:33 > 0:59:39afternoon before it clears in the south-east and east Anglia, but

0:59:39 > 0:59:43otherwise Saturday is largely dry and bright sunshine and a few

0:59:43 > 0:59:48showers, turning chilly in the north-west, quite a chilly wind. If

0:59:48 > 0:59:52you are going to a fireworks display on Saturday evening, largely dry for

0:59:52 > 0:59:57most of us have clear spells, some showers scattered across Wales and

0:59:57 > 1:00:01western areas into Scotland and Northern Ireland. Sunday should be

1:00:01 > 1:00:06the most dry day of the weekend, a few showers across western areas, a

1:00:06 > 1:00:10chilly wind for all of us, those temperatures about eight to 11

1:00:10 > 1:00:14Celsius. Bonfire night itself is probably the driest and clearest

1:00:14 > 1:00:18night for any fireworks and you can go to the website or use our apt to

1:00:18 > 1:00:20get a more detailed forecast for where you are.

1:00:33 > 1:00:34Hello.

1:00:34 > 1:00:35It's 10 o'clock.

1:00:35 > 1:00:37Labour suspends Luton MP Kelvin Hopkins as part of the sexual

1:00:37 > 1:00:38harassment scandal engulfing Westminster.

1:00:38 > 1:00:41It comes as former Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon faces

1:00:41 > 1:00:43further allegations, which he denies - just two days

1:00:43 > 1:00:44after losing his job.

1:00:44 > 1:00:46Former Westminster staff say some MPs are known

1:00:46 > 1:00:47for inappropriate conduct.

1:00:47 > 1:00:50There were a few where you know, you didn't want to be alone

1:00:50 > 1:00:53with them in a room or you didn't want to be with them

1:00:53 > 1:01:01when they were drunk in a bar somewhere.

1:01:01 > 1:01:10Could bacteria help to reduce tumours shrink during cancer

1:01:10 > 1:01:16therapy?

1:01:16 > 1:01:18Also this morning - A former white supremacist

1:01:18 > 1:01:21from Arizona whose black probation officer helped him turn his back

1:01:21 > 1:01:26on years of violent race crime, tells us why he had to change.

1:01:26 > 1:01:33I became more and more hateful as time went on. I was very active in

1:01:33 > 1:01:36the neo-Nazi lifestyle as a teenager.

1:01:36 > 1:01:39The full story coming up shortly.

1:01:39 > 1:01:41Good morning.

1:01:41 > 1:01:50Now a summary of today's news.

1:01:50 > 1:01:51A Labour MP has been suspended

1:01:51 > 1:01:55A Labour MP has

1:01:55 > 1:02:01by the party.

1:02:01 > 1:02:05Kelvin Hopkins, who is 76 and has been MP for Luton North for 20

1:02:05 > 1:02:07years, has had the whip withdrawn while the party investigates.

1:02:07 > 1:02:0827-year-old Ava Etemadzadeh says she complained

1:02:08 > 1:02:11to officials at the time of the alleged incident

1:02:11 > 1:02:12two years ago.

1:02:12 > 1:02:14Mr Hopkins was later promoted to the Labour frontbench.

1:02:14 > 1:02:16Meanwhile, more allegations have emerged about Sir Michael Fallon,

1:02:16 > 1:02:19who resigned as Defence Secretary this week saying his behaviour "fell

1:02:19 > 1:02:20short" of standards.

1:02:20 > 1:02:22He is accused in newspaper reports of making inappropriate sexual

1:02:22 > 1:02:24comments to his Cabinet colleague Andrea Leadsom.

1:02:24 > 1:02:26Sir Michael says he "categorically denies" the allegations.

1:02:26 > 1:02:28Speaking to the Victoria Derbyshire show a little earlier this morning,

1:02:28 > 1:02:31one former Conservative staff member said researchers would warn each

1:02:31 > 1:02:38other away from certain MPs with a reputation for harassment.

1:02:38 > 1:02:42I would hear on the grapevine, we would have groups of researchers

1:02:42 > 1:02:45saying we were meeting so-and-so, don't sit on the same side of the

1:02:45 > 1:02:51table as them. This was just as much a problem for men as it was for

1:02:51 > 1:02:56women.Don't sit on the same side of the table because they would grow

1:02:56 > 1:03:01you?It is a hand on a knee. It is those uncomfortable boundaries where

1:03:01 > 1:03:05you would slap someone's and away. I would have but some don't feel

1:03:05 > 1:03:13comfortable doing that. I never experienced it but we have heard of

1:03:13 > 1:03:21a very small number of MPs who are tarnishing the reputation of others.

1:03:21 > 1:03:24Plans to speed up the time it takes for new, life-changing medicines

1:03:24 > 1:03:26to reach patients have been announced by the government.

1:03:26 > 1:03:28The move follows pressure by the pharmaceutical industry

1:03:28 > 1:03:30and medical charities which say that patients are losing out.

1:03:30 > 1:03:34It could mean certain drugs will be available up to four years earlier

1:03:34 > 1:03:35than they are currently.

1:03:35 > 1:03:38The Syrian army has retaken one of the the last major strongholds

1:03:38 > 1:03:40of so-called Islamic State, according to state television.

1:03:40 > 1:03:42The city of Deir al-Zour, near the border with Iraq,

1:03:42 > 1:03:43has been "completely liberated from terrorism"

1:03:43 > 1:03:45according to the report.

1:03:45 > 1:03:52The Islamic State group had held most of the city since 2014.

1:03:52 > 1:03:55The militant group is now confined to a few remaining pockets

1:03:55 > 1:03:56elsewhere in the province.

1:03:56 > 1:03:58Eight former Catalan government ministers have spent a night behind

1:03:58 > 1:04:01bars after a Spanish judge refused to grant them bail.

1:04:01 > 1:04:03They've been charged with rebellion, sedition and misuse of public funds

1:04:03 > 1:04:05in connection with the attempt to make Catalonia

1:04:05 > 1:04:06independent from Spain.

1:04:06 > 1:04:13Tens of thousands of Catalans staged a protest against their detention.

1:04:13 > 1:04:18The judge said the ministers might flee the country or destroy evidence

1:04:18 > 1:04:24if they were released. Spanish authorities have asked for European

1:04:24 > 1:04:31arrest warrant for the sacked Catalan leader.

1:04:31 > 1:04:34It's emerged that the ashes of the Moors Murderer Ian Brady have

1:04:34 > 1:04:37been buried at sea after his body was cremated last week.

1:04:37 > 1:04:40He died in May at the age of 79, at Ashworth High Security

1:04:40 > 1:04:41Hospital in Merseyside.

1:04:41 > 1:04:43Court documents show that the cremation took place

1:04:43 > 1:04:44in Southport without any ceremony.

1:04:44 > 1:04:50His body had been kept in a hospital mortuary since his death. Brady and

1:04:50 > 1:04:53his accomplice Myra Hindley tortured and killed five children in the

1:04:53 > 1:04:571960s.

1:04:57 > 1:05:00There was a shock for Twitter users overnight when one of the social

1:05:00 > 1:05:01media platform's most prominent and controversial users

1:05:01 > 1:05:04had his account de-activated.

1:05:04 > 1:05:06Donald Trump's account was shut down for 11 minutes -

1:05:06 > 1:05:09due to human error, according to Twitter, who blamed it

1:05:09 > 1:05:11on an employee on his last day before leaving the company.

1:05:11 > 1:05:14The social media giant says it's taking steps to prevent it

1:05:14 > 1:05:15from happening again.

1:05:15 > 1:05:17The president, meanwhile, is back up and tweeting

1:05:17 > 1:05:19to his 41 million followers.

1:05:19 > 1:05:22That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

1:05:22 > 1:05:26Do get in touch with us throughout the morning,

1:05:26 > 1:05:28use the hashtag #Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged

1:05:28 > 1:05:36at the standard network rate.

1:05:36 > 1:05:42Lots of you getting inter each on the story about harassment at

1:05:42 > 1:05:48Westminster. Now for some sport. Good morning. Headlines today have

1:05:48 > 1:05:52gone to the former Manchester United player, Patrice Evra. It seemed he

1:05:52 > 1:05:55has a multitude of questions to answer after appearing to kick a

1:05:55 > 1:05:59supporter of his current team, Marseille, before their Europa

1:05:59 > 1:06:03League match last night. Our correspondent joins us now. What

1:06:03 > 1:06:10went on?It is unclear at the moment exactly what prompted all of this.

1:06:10 > 1:06:13The troubles flared up in the warm up ahead of the game against

1:06:13 > 1:06:20Portuguese side. Marseille fans jumped the barrier. Patrice Evra

1:06:20 > 1:06:27went over to confront them. At first he was pulled away and team-mates

1:06:27 > 1:06:31intervene. Later he goes back and appears to aim a kick at the head of

1:06:31 > 1:06:35one of the Marseille fans. He is sent off and forced to watch the

1:06:35 > 1:06:40game from the fans. The first player in Europa League history to be sent

1:06:40 > 1:06:44off before the game actually begins. We have had a statement from

1:06:44 > 1:06:48Marseille giving their take on all of this. They have said an internal

1:06:48 > 1:06:52investigation will be carried out. They say a professional player must

1:06:52 > 1:06:57keep his cool when there are provocations and insults. The club

1:06:57 > 1:07:03can only condemn any disruptive behaviour by pseudo- supporters who

1:07:03 > 1:07:07insult players and said of supporting the team. That is the

1:07:07 > 1:07:12stance that Marseille is taking. There is one famous example we will

1:07:12 > 1:07:14always remember of one player not keeping their cool in the Premier

1:07:14 > 1:07:20League era. What could happen next to Patrice Evra?The incident you

1:07:20 > 1:07:24are alluding to there, what we both thought of when we saw the pictures

1:07:24 > 1:07:30earlier, is when Eric Cantona was sent off back in 1995 and then after

1:07:30 > 1:07:35he was sent off in a game against Crystal Palace he aimed a kung fu

1:07:35 > 1:07:39kick at the Crystal Palace supporter that would not have looked out of

1:07:39 > 1:07:43place in a mixed martial arts contest. He was convicted of assault

1:07:43 > 1:07:48for that incident and banned for nine months. They were the longest

1:07:48 > 1:07:52bans in professional sport. Evra, who played for United and won the

1:07:52 > 1:07:57Premier League several times and the Champions League with United may

1:07:57 > 1:08:01well face a similar sort of punishment. We do not know if we

1:08:01 > 1:08:08have not heard from Uefa. We may well hear from them later today.

1:08:08 > 1:08:14Thank you very much for joining us. Everton caretaker manager David

1:08:14 > 1:08:18Unsworth is searching for answers of his own all of them on the field

1:08:18 > 1:08:21after they lost their fifth straight match in all competitions last

1:08:21 > 1:08:27night. A 3-0 defeat in Lyon means they are out of the Europa League.

1:08:27 > 1:08:30Unsworth said, at a Premier League meeting with Watford on Sunday it is

1:08:30 > 1:08:39huge for him and the club. Elsewhere last night Arsenal drew with Red

1:08:39 > 1:08:43Star Belgrade. More questions to answer for the Manchester United

1:08:43 > 1:08:47boss, Jose Mourinho. Usually on a Friday morning he would be holding

1:08:47 > 1:08:51his weekly press conference. Instead he is appearing in a Spanish court

1:08:51 > 1:08:55to face tax fraud allegations related to his time as manager of

1:08:55 > 1:09:00the Spanish giants, Real Madrid. He is alleged to owe over £3.5 billion

1:09:00 > 1:09:05in undeclared image rights revenue. He denied any wrongdoing. That is

1:09:05 > 1:09:10all the sport for now. I'll be back with more later on.

1:09:10 > 1:09:12Let's get more on allegations of sexual harassment

1:09:12 > 1:09:13swirling around Westminster.

1:09:13 > 1:09:16This morning Labour is facing new claims by a party activist

1:09:16 > 1:09:19and has suspended the MP for Luton North, Kelvin Hopkins,

1:09:19 > 1:09:26while it carries out an investigation.

1:09:26 > 1:09:32These are the latest pictures of Jeremy Corbyn this morning he

1:09:32 > 1:09:35declined to comment on the latest allegations.

1:09:35 > 1:09:37Meanwhile the former defence secretary Sir Michael Fallon has

1:09:37 > 1:09:40been forced to "categorically deny" reports that he made inappropriate

1:09:40 > 1:09:41sexual comments to Commons leader Andrea Leadsom,

1:09:41 > 1:09:43when they served on a Commons committee together.

1:09:43 > 1:09:46Theresa May is to hold a meeting on Monday with the leaders

1:09:46 > 1:09:49of the main political parties in Westminster to draw up plans

1:09:49 > 1:09:51for tackling sexual abuse and harassment in Parliament.

1:09:51 > 1:09:54The events of this week have shone a light on a drinking culture

1:09:54 > 1:09:56in British politics, which in extreme cases,

1:09:56 > 1:10:01has led to allegations of sexual harassment and even rape.

1:10:01 > 1:10:07So how bad is Westminster's alcohol problem, and how do we tackle it?

1:10:07 > 1:10:10Dr Paul Williams is the newly elected MP for Stockton South.

1:10:10 > 1:10:16He's been critical of Westminster's drinking culture.

1:10:16 > 1:10:18Heather Brooke broke the MPs' expenses scandal.

1:10:18 > 1:10:21She now teaches investigative journalism

1:10:21 > 1:10:26at City University London.

1:10:26 > 1:10:31Thank you both for taking the time to talk to us. If I can start with

1:10:31 > 1:10:35you, Doctor Williams. Your reaction to Kelvin Hopkins being suspended

1:10:35 > 1:10:40from the Labour Party.These are very serious allegations. I don't

1:10:40 > 1:10:45know any more about the detail of it but I think it is right. Somebody is

1:10:45 > 1:10:51innocent until proven guilty but it is right to suspend him. It is right

1:10:51 > 1:10:55to do a thorough investigation and take the allegations really

1:10:55 > 1:10:59seriously.If, as transpires, the claims that are being made by this

1:10:59 > 1:11:03woman are true, she said she made this complaint two years ago and he

1:11:03 > 1:11:06was a backbencher but was then brought in to join the Shadow

1:11:06 > 1:11:13Cabinet. That was when Jeremy Corbyn had a flurry of resignations. If

1:11:13 > 1:11:18that is the case, is this the way it should be handled by the Labour

1:11:18 > 1:11:23Party?We don't know enough yet. Let's make sure the investigation is

1:11:23 > 1:11:27done early. What the Labour Party has done is written to all members

1:11:27 > 1:11:30of Parliament. I have received information to make sure we have

1:11:30 > 1:11:36toughened up on our procedures and made sure that MPs are being... The

1:11:36 > 1:11:39message that honestly should have been very clear to MPs in the past

1:11:39 > 1:11:42about the way that staff should have been treated is made even more

1:11:42 > 1:11:45clear. Let's wait for the investigation to run its course

1:11:45 > 1:11:50before deciding what action should be taken.Heather, I want to bring

1:11:50 > 1:11:55you in on this study broke the expenses scandal story. Do you see

1:11:55 > 1:11:57similarities between what is happening in Westminster now and the

1:11:57 > 1:12:03allegations which are coming out against various MPs and the expenses

1:12:03 > 1:12:08scandal?I do. It is about the and accountability of power. What I

1:12:08 > 1:12:13discovered with the expenses is that there was no financial

1:12:13 > 1:12:16accountability over how MPs were spending public money with regards

1:12:16 > 1:12:21to their expenses. What this story is about is quite similar. It is

1:12:21 > 1:12:27about there not being enough accountability, about how MPs up

1:12:27 > 1:12:30behaving towards staff members. When a staff member has a complaint there

1:12:30 > 1:12:36is not a robust mechanism, a place to go to for them to be taken

1:12:36 > 1:12:42seriously and seek to enforce some action that strong action against

1:12:42 > 1:12:46the MPs.Doctor Williams, it is interesting that you were elected

1:12:46 > 1:12:50pretty recently into Parliament at the last election. Your reflections

1:12:50 > 1:12:53would be interesting on the whole of the Westminster culture. The

1:12:53 > 1:12:59drinking culture we will get onto but just the way MPs behave and how

1:12:59 > 1:13:03some people seem to say, what I did would have been appropriate 20 or 30

1:13:03 > 1:13:07years ago but today it is not. So many viewers are getting in touch

1:13:07 > 1:13:13and saying this was not appropriate 20 years ago.No, it was not. You

1:13:13 > 1:13:16have to remember that the vast majority of members of Parliament of

1:13:16 > 1:13:20those responsible, behave in a very responsible way, are good and decent

1:13:20 > 1:13:25people. It appears from allegations there has been some really

1:13:25 > 1:13:31inappropriate behaviour. I agree. It seems as if this is about abuse of

1:13:31 > 1:13:36power. It should be that people who work with MPs, I don't like to use

1:13:36 > 1:13:39terminology work for MPs, it's about teams of people working together.

1:13:39 > 1:13:43There should be a real breakdown in the power differential. At the

1:13:43 > 1:13:47moment it seems there are some people who have all the power and a

1:13:47 > 1:13:52few people who have been exploiting that.Do you think that MPs have

1:13:52 > 1:13:58felt untouchable for too long?I definitely felt that. The whole

1:13:58 > 1:14:02institution has been untouchable. One thing I wanted to call you up on

1:14:02 > 1:14:06what this was not just about alcohol. Women drink alcohol.

1:14:06 > 1:14:12Alcohol just release is inherent prejudices or tendencies that are

1:14:12 > 1:14:16already in existence. What I would argue is this is sexism,

1:14:16 > 1:14:19institutional sexism you see in Parliament. The majority of people

1:14:19 > 1:14:23who have power our men and the majority of people who are less

1:14:23 > 1:14:27powerful are women. And the men leveraged their power in these cases

1:14:27 > 1:14:32to put women under pressure. When they tried to raise it, as we have

1:14:32 > 1:14:36seen in so many of these cases, the women are not taken seriously. They

1:14:36 > 1:14:44are not believed, they are belittled in the media. This is the cultural

1:14:44 > 1:14:48problem that the Harvey Weinstein problem has broken open. I would

1:14:48 > 1:14:53argue that women came forward about Donald Trump. Think it was 11 women

1:14:53 > 1:14:58with allegations about Donald Trump and he is still our president. What

1:14:58 > 1:15:01is the difference between movie celebrities and politicians? It

1:15:01 > 1:15:06seems it will be harder to tackle this kind of institutional sexism

1:15:06 > 1:15:11omega into the real heart of power, which is politics and Parliament.

1:15:11 > 1:15:16Doctor Williams, I know you have talked about the abuse of power in

1:15:16 > 1:15:20relation to the allegations at Westminster. Is it partly linked to

1:15:20 > 1:15:28alcohol that is consumed within Parliament?

1:15:28 > 1:15:30All I can say about that as a new

1:15:30 > 1:15:31All I can say about that as a new member of Parliament and a doctor

1:15:31 > 1:15:35coming into the environment, I found it to be a rather strange work

1:15:35 > 1:15:39environment. Alcohol is everywhere, as an MP you get invited all kinds

1:15:39 > 1:15:43of meetings and presentations, I went to a fantastic presentation

1:15:43 > 1:15:45couple of weeks ago about organ donation that lunchtime but whenever

1:15:45 > 1:15:51you go to go to one of these meetings, alcohol is served. It says

1:15:51 > 1:15:55something about the environment that all of the best locations within

1:15:55 > 1:15:58Westminster, the terraces and the runs round the corner from the

1:15:58 > 1:16:05chamber have been turned into bars and restaurants. Incidentally,

1:16:05 > 1:16:09heavily subsidised. But if you want to go to the gym or a smoothie bar,

1:16:09 > 1:16:15you have to walk a long way. The gym is hidden ten minutes from the

1:16:15 > 1:16:20chamber in a poky room. It feels not just like a modern workplace, if I

1:16:20 > 1:16:25was working for Google, I think the environment would be different. And

1:16:25 > 1:16:28human beings do adapt their behaviour in order to suit the

1:16:28 > 1:16:36environment. I think it should be changed.So what needs to change?We

1:16:36 > 1:16:38have an opportunity that the redesign of... First of all

1:16:38 > 1:16:43attitudes need to change but also the environment. In many ways I'm

1:16:43 > 1:16:47pleased that the scandal has broken and I'm pleased that the power

1:16:47 > 1:16:52differentials are being challenged but there's an opportunity as

1:16:52 > 1:16:55Westminster is refurbished and redesigned over the next few years,

1:16:55 > 1:16:59there's an opportunity to change the environment and create a modern

1:16:59 > 1:17:03workplace for the 21st century. You would not expect your postman to

1:17:03 > 1:17:06have a pint before he walks along the path to deliver your letters but

1:17:06 > 1:17:09somehow it seems to be all right that MPs can have a point before

1:17:09 > 1:17:16voting on a crucial bill.It's not just about alcohol and I would hate

1:17:16 > 1:17:20for us to be sidetracked, there was a lot of male domestic violence in

1:17:20 > 1:17:24America that was fuelled by alcohol and that created the probation

1:17:24 > 1:17:29movement. But alcohol only exacerbated an underlying cultural

1:17:29 > 1:17:32problem which was attitudes towards women. I would hate that we put all

1:17:32 > 1:17:41of our emphasis alcohol. Sure it's not right to be drinking at lunch or

1:17:41 > 1:17:44professional, but the systemic underlying problem is we have two

1:17:44 > 1:17:47address our attitudes towards women and particularly women and power.

1:17:47 > 1:17:52Thank you for talking to us. Jeremy Corbyn has been questioned by

1:17:52 > 1:17:56reporters short time ago about the Kelvin Hopkins allegations.Good

1:17:56 > 1:18:02morning, Mr Corbyn. Did you know about Kelvin Hopkins?Thank you for

1:18:02 > 1:18:07coming to my red, goodbye.Did you know about Mr Hopkins? Were you

1:18:07 > 1:18:10aware of the allegations against him, Mr Corbyn, before you promote

1:18:10 > 1:18:20it into the Shadow Cabinet? -- promoted him?Thanks.Were you aware

1:18:20 > 1:18:26of the allegations?Goodbye.That was the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

1:18:26 > 1:18:28this morning as he left his house.

1:18:28 > 1:18:31After 20 years in a violent white supremacist group Michael Kent

1:18:31 > 1:18:32from Colorado decided to stop being a neo-Nazi.

1:18:32 > 1:18:34He credits his transformation to the extraordinary

1:18:34 > 1:18:36dedication and friendship of his black probation officer.

1:18:36 > 1:18:42He has had to move far away from his children out of fear

1:18:42 > 1:18:44of reprisals from gang members and now lives and works

1:18:44 > 1:18:47on a chicken farm where he is the only white worker.

1:18:47 > 1:18:54In their first UK interview, Victoria spoke to Michael

1:18:54 > 1:18:55and his probation officer Tiffany Whittier.

1:18:55 > 1:19:00She started by asking Michael just how racist he used to be.

1:19:00 > 1:19:03It was pretty bad.

1:19:03 > 1:19:06About 15, 20 years, I was getting into the action

1:19:06 > 1:19:08and getting into the same really, really bad...

1:19:08 > 1:19:11As time gone on, I became a recruiter and somebody

1:19:11 > 1:19:17that brought somebody in because of my hate

1:19:17 > 1:19:23and the knowledge and the reputation I had, it fuelled a lot of people

1:19:23 > 1:19:27that come into the movement and bring it.

1:19:27 > 1:19:31What were you recruiting people into?

1:19:31 > 1:19:35The neo-Nazi movement, the white supremacy movement.

1:19:35 > 1:19:42The be more hatred, the anti-...

1:19:42 > 1:19:43Black.

1:19:43 > 1:19:46Anti-Hispanic, anti-Asian, anti-...

1:19:46 > 1:19:50Homophobe, you know, just the somebody that stood

1:19:50 > 1:19:54against everything that wasn't white and something that wasn't pure.

1:19:54 > 1:20:00We are looking at images of you doing the Nazi salute right now.

1:20:00 > 1:20:05Why do you think you hated all those people?

1:20:05 > 1:20:07Well, you see, it started back when I was younger.

1:20:07 > 1:20:10I was trying to be accepted and growng up I was like one

1:20:10 > 1:20:15of the only white people, families growing up and we had

1:20:15 > 1:20:19to fight to survive growing up with my family.

1:20:19 > 1:20:22My sisters got along of course but me and my brother didn't.

1:20:22 > 1:20:29And when I was six years old I had an African-American guy

1:20:29 > 1:20:31break into the house, our house, and try

1:20:31 > 1:20:33to rape my mother.

1:20:33 > 1:20:36And my first encounter with racism, I was in sixth grade and I had

1:20:36 > 1:20:41a little black friend, I was trying to get a good feeling

1:20:41 > 1:20:44and trying to be accepted again, and his mother told me,

1:20:44 > 1:20:49"I don't want that blue-eyed devil in this house".

1:20:49 > 1:20:52So that's just filled my hate even more because wasn't accepted.

1:20:52 > 1:20:54Didn't like me so, you know what, I'm going all out.

1:20:54 > 1:20:59And I started hating them more than anything just on what one

1:20:59 > 1:21:05person thought or a couple of people thought, how I was treated.

1:21:05 > 1:21:10So I judged everybody like that.

1:21:10 > 1:21:14And I became more and more hateful as time go up so by the time

1:21:14 > 1:21:16I was a teenager I was very, very active in the

1:21:16 > 1:21:19neo-Nazi lifestyle.

1:21:19 > 1:21:23And what does that lifestyle embody?

1:21:23 > 1:21:27A lot of hate, a lot of resentment towards everybody.

1:21:27 > 1:21:34And hurting a lot of people that, as I look back on it now,

1:21:34 > 1:21:35don't deserve that.

1:21:35 > 1:21:37And tell us about the tattoos you've got.

1:21:37 > 1:21:43Ooh.

1:21:43 > 1:21:48It goes back again, I got the white pride, I have the...

1:21:48 > 1:21:52I HAD the two swastikas on my body.

1:21:52 > 1:21:54The white pride I have, that was one of my first...

1:21:54 > 1:21:58They say it's not racial but it is racial, the way I earned it.

1:21:58 > 1:22:00It's the white pride, every letter I have for the white

1:22:00 > 1:22:04pride I had to go on a mission and I had to hurt somebody to gain

1:22:04 > 1:22:05each letter of that.

1:22:05 > 1:22:10And after that, as time went on, that's when I got my swastikas.

1:22:10 > 1:22:14Tiffany is sitting alongside you, listening to your story

1:22:14 > 1:22:15which she knows very well.

1:22:15 > 1:22:18Tell us how you first met Tiffany.

1:22:18 > 1:22:25Oh, jeez.

1:22:25 > 1:22:26It's...

1:22:26 > 1:22:27It's complicated but it's...

1:22:27 > 1:22:29Looking back on it now it's really, really funny.

1:22:29 > 1:22:32You know, I had, when I got out of prison I had probation officers

1:22:32 > 1:22:38that always came to my house on a buddy system.

1:22:38 > 1:22:39They never came by themselves.

1:22:39 > 1:22:43Finally in 2008 I had my caseload transferred to Tiffany

1:22:43 > 1:22:47and she came over to my house, it was night outside, dark outside,

1:22:47 > 1:22:52and I lived in a trailer.

1:22:52 > 1:22:55And I had a pit, a pink nosed pit at my house.

1:22:55 > 1:22:59She came over to my house by herself, shine the light

1:22:59 > 1:23:04on my house and I came outside and I was like, "can I help you?"

1:23:04 > 1:23:07And she goes, "yes."

1:23:07 > 1:23:08She goes, "are you Michael?"

1:23:08 > 1:23:12I was like, "yes."

1:23:12 > 1:23:15And she says, "I'm your new officer."

1:23:15 > 1:23:16And I said, "really?"

1:23:16 > 1:23:18Tripping out!

1:23:18 > 1:23:21I asked, "are you here by yourself", and she says, "yeah, why?"

1:23:21 > 1:23:24And she grabbed her hand on her firearm and she said, "why?"

1:23:24 > 1:23:29So I thought it was like a setup, maybe somebody

1:23:29 > 1:23:30in the department didn't like her!

1:23:30 > 1:23:35Or they were out to get me, to see me fail.

1:23:35 > 1:23:39From that day on, little by little, she just started

1:23:39 > 1:23:44transforming my life.

1:23:44 > 1:23:46I never had somebody, someone, as an African-American,

1:23:46 > 1:23:50to have faith in me and believe me, let alone anybody in general to be

1:23:50 > 1:23:52there and be supportive of me, to help me out, help me

1:23:52 > 1:23:57better my life and believe in me as much as she did.

1:23:57 > 1:24:01Tiffany, how much did you know about Michael's racist views,

1:24:01 > 1:24:06his membership of neo-Nazi groups, before you were assigned his case?

1:24:06 > 1:24:11Well, I reviewed his file and you really can't know somebody's

1:24:11 > 1:24:16racist views until...

1:24:16 > 1:24:20Reading it on paper is one thing, seeing his criminal history,

1:24:20 > 1:24:24but then actually getting to know Michael, I didn't prejudge

1:24:24 > 1:24:27him, I wanted to get to know him on face value.

1:24:27 > 1:24:29I just didn't want to judge a book by its cover.

1:24:29 > 1:24:33So I just began to talk to Michael and found out where he was from,

1:24:33 > 1:24:34where his hate stemmed from.

1:24:34 > 1:24:37And just, you know, wanted to work with him,

1:24:37 > 1:24:42wanted to see him be successful on probation, complete his

1:24:42 > 1:24:44probation successfully.

1:24:44 > 1:24:47And slowly but surely he started to do that on his own.

1:24:47 > 1:24:51Unbeknownst to me, I didn't realise the impact I was having on his life.

1:24:51 > 1:24:53But when you first showed up at his house, alone that time,

1:24:53 > 1:24:56you must have been aware, Tiffany, that you represented pretty

1:24:56 > 1:24:58much everything that Michael hated?

1:24:58 > 1:25:03I had some idea.

1:25:03 > 1:25:06Because I did see the tattoos in his file.

1:25:06 > 1:25:11But I didn't go there with knowing...

1:25:11 > 1:25:16I didn't go there with the intention of wanting to judge him.

1:25:16 > 1:25:20I just wanted to meet him as a person and have him

1:25:20 > 1:25:22meet me as a person.

1:25:22 > 1:25:27And that's where our relationship began.

1:25:27 > 1:25:31Me being his probation officer and wanting

1:25:31 > 1:25:32to see him be successful.

1:25:32 > 1:25:35I didn't come there to be this dominant role model, to say,

1:25:35 > 1:25:37"this is what you're going to do."

1:25:37 > 1:25:40But I wanted to see him as an equal, per se, even though

1:25:40 > 1:25:43I was his probation officer.

1:25:43 > 1:25:45I wanted to see him be successful and that's

1:25:45 > 1:25:49what I want for all my clients, is to be successful.

1:25:49 > 1:25:51And in practical terms, what kind of steps did

1:25:51 > 1:25:54you suggest that Michael take in order to change?

1:25:54 > 1:26:00I just wanted him to believe in himself, have faith in himself,

1:26:00 > 1:26:10find some happiness within himself.

1:26:11 > 1:26:14Because I did see hate within his home, with the negative

1:26:14 > 1:26:16flags, the hate flags, meaning the swastikas,

1:26:16 > 1:26:19the German flags in this home, and I suggested that he take those

1:26:19 > 1:26:22down and put up smiley faces or something that was going to be

1:26:22 > 1:26:25a positive influence on him.

1:26:25 > 1:26:26Like the one behind you?

1:26:26 > 1:26:28Yes!

1:26:28 > 1:26:32Something like that, like a happy face.

1:26:32 > 1:26:36And, to be honest with you, I said that to him half jokingly.

1:26:36 > 1:26:43And he took it seriously and slowly those things started to come down.

1:26:43 > 1:26:47Michael wanted me to meet his co-workers,

1:26:47 > 1:26:52so I would go by his job and meet his boss.

1:26:52 > 1:26:56I went to see where he worked, I slowly began to meet his family,

1:26:56 > 1:27:06and he invited me to meet his girlfriend at the time,

1:27:06 > 1:27:08which later became his wife.

1:27:08 > 1:27:11And so, just over time, just getting to know him,

1:27:11 > 1:27:13the rapport that we had was just an honest...

1:27:13 > 1:27:15Hey, I'm here to help you succeed.

1:27:15 > 1:27:16And he did that.

1:27:16 > 1:27:21Yeah, we talk about...

1:27:21 > 1:27:24We kind of laugh because I've showed her pictures,

1:27:24 > 1:27:25after everything said, after we became closer,

1:27:25 > 1:27:27I've showed her pictures of my past.

1:27:27 > 1:27:30She says, "oh my God, Michael, if I would have known that

1:27:30 > 1:27:32I would never have walked through your gate that day."

1:27:32 > 1:27:35Really.

1:27:35 > 1:27:36"I would never...

1:27:36 > 1:27:38We would never have been like this.

1:27:38 > 1:27:40I never thought in a million years you were like that,

1:27:40 > 1:27:43not the way you treated me, not the way you acted towards me."

1:27:43 > 1:27:47I told her flat out, you know, I'm very thankful that day

1:27:47 > 1:27:51she walked through that gate because she made me an honest

1:27:51 > 1:27:55and truly a better person, a better man, a better father

1:27:55 > 1:27:58and a better husband at that time.

1:27:58 > 1:28:00You know, just all in all a better person.

1:28:00 > 1:28:02More and more she became involved in my life,

1:28:02 > 1:28:05the hate started drifting away and the love started building

1:28:05 > 1:28:08in my heart and I started being accepting and loving and that

1:28:08 > 1:28:11something no one's been able to do, and no one's ever showed me

1:28:11 > 1:28:14as much as she has.

1:28:14 > 1:28:19And do you think she deserves a hug for that?

1:28:19 > 1:28:22You know what, when I picked her up today at the airport,

1:28:22 > 1:28:25oh my God, it was...

1:28:25 > 1:28:33It was totally amazing!

1:28:33 > 1:28:36She is a totally remarkable woman, I give her a hug

1:28:36 > 1:28:38every time I see her.

1:28:38 > 1:28:42And she is...

1:28:42 > 1:28:45She has been an inspiration to me, especially seeing everything

1:28:45 > 1:28:47she does and the work she continues to do.

1:28:47 > 1:28:48She's very...

1:28:48 > 1:28:54She's a very good woman, you know, and she gets that and much much more

1:28:54 > 1:28:57from me and a lot of other people now that we look at and we see.

1:28:57 > 1:28:59She's a very courageous woman.

1:28:59 > 1:29:02And I'm so glad and I'm very thankful that she's in my life.

1:29:02 > 1:29:06Would you mind if I asked to see a full on hug between you, please?

1:29:06 > 1:29:07Absolutely!

1:29:07 > 1:29:10Absolutely!

1:29:17 > 1:29:18She's...

1:29:18 > 1:29:22Like I said, she's got that and many, many, many,

1:29:22 > 1:29:25many more of them coming!

1:29:25 > 1:29:29What has happened to your tattoos, Michael?

1:29:29 > 1:29:30Oh, well, here...

1:29:30 > 1:29:35I can kind of show you the transformation a little bit.

1:29:35 > 1:29:38Go on then.

1:29:38 > 1:29:41From the time when I first did it until now...

1:29:41 > 1:29:42Move it down a little bit.

1:29:42 > 1:29:46Yeah.

1:29:46 > 1:29:53Right up here at the top, right here is where the swastika was.

1:29:53 > 1:29:56I can vaguely see the outline of it.

1:29:56 > 1:30:01But pretty much hidden by the face of a wolf.

1:30:01 > 1:30:05Yes, it's a wolf and they go all the way down.

1:30:05 > 1:30:07There's a tattoo parlour with Redemption Ink.

1:30:07 > 1:30:11Redemption Ink is an organisation that helps people like me and other

1:30:11 > 1:30:15people with gang tattoos, hate tattoos, remove that part

1:30:15 > 1:30:18of the ugliness in their lives and helps them transform it

1:30:18 > 1:30:21into something beautiful.

1:30:21 > 1:30:26They have been above and beyond helping me out and out

1:30:26 > 1:30:28here in Colorado we have Fallen Heroes that I'm going...

1:30:28 > 1:30:31That are doing all my work.

1:30:31 > 1:30:36And they're helping me with the final step of my life

1:30:36 > 1:30:39and they're turning all this ugliness I have in my body

1:30:39 > 1:30:41into something beautiful.

1:30:41 > 1:30:44Every piece, every stitch, a tattoo on my body they're transforming

1:30:44 > 1:30:48into something beautiful.

1:30:48 > 1:30:49And this is...

1:30:49 > 1:30:52I go there, I'm almost in tears every time because every time I go

1:30:52 > 1:30:55there they tell me something else they're doing to help me

1:30:55 > 1:31:00continue to better myself and to bea better person.

1:31:00 > 1:31:03continue to better myself and to be a better person.

1:31:03 > 1:31:06And it's, everything has been so surreal with everything

1:31:06 > 1:31:09going on in my life, with Tiffany, Redemption Ink,

1:31:09 > 1:31:12with Fallen Heroes, they believe in me more than anybody has ever

1:31:12 > 1:31:15believed in me in my life and I'm very thankful to have people

1:31:15 > 1:31:25like that in my life.

1:31:25 > 1:31:27Still to come.

1:31:27 > 1:31:28Could our natural bacteria help influence how successful

1:31:28 > 1:31:30cancer treatment is?

1:31:30 > 1:31:33New research has shown that bacteria in the gut could help tumours shrink

1:31:33 > 1:31:38during cancer therapy?

1:31:38 > 1:31:42And was his sentence too lenient?

1:31:42 > 1:31:44Prosecutors are appealing the six year jail term of Oscar Pistorious,

1:31:44 > 1:31:47who killed his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's Day

1:31:47 > 1:31:552013, claiming that it isn't long enough.

1:31:55 > 1:32:02Time for the latest news.

1:32:02 > 1:32:05The headlines now on BBC News.

1:32:05 > 1:32:08A Labour MP has been suspended by the party after an activist

1:32:08 > 1:32:09accused him of sexual harassment.

1:32:09 > 1:32:12Kelvin Hopkins, MP for Luton North, has had the whip withdrawn

1:32:12 > 1:32:16while the party investigates.

1:32:16 > 1:32:1727-year-old Ava Etemadzadeh says she complained

1:32:17 > 1:32:20to officials two years ago but Mr Hopkins was later promoted

1:32:20 > 1:32:22to the Labour frontbench.

1:32:22 > 1:32:24Meanwhile, more allegations have emerged about Sir Michael Fallon,

1:32:24 > 1:32:26who resigned as Defence Secretary this week.

1:32:26 > 1:32:29He is accused in newspaper reports of making inappropriate sexual

1:32:29 > 1:32:33comments to his Cabinet colleague Andrea Leadsom.

1:32:33 > 1:32:38Sir Michael says he "categorically denies" the allegations.

1:32:38 > 1:32:40The Syrian army has retaken one of the the last major strongholds

1:32:40 > 1:32:44of so-called Islamic State, according to state television.

1:32:44 > 1:32:47The city of Deir al-Zour, near the border with Iraq,

1:32:47 > 1:32:48has been "completely liberated from terrorism"

1:32:48 > 1:32:52according to the report.

1:32:52 > 1:32:55The Islamic State group had held most of the city since 2014.

1:32:55 > 1:32:58The militant group is now confined to a few remaining pockets

1:32:58 > 1:33:02elsewhere in the province.

1:33:02 > 1:33:05Plans to speed up the time it takes for new, life-changing medicines

1:33:05 > 1:33:07to reach patients have been announced by the Government.

1:33:07 > 1:33:09The move follows pressure by the pharmaceutical industry

1:33:09 > 1:33:12and medical charities which say that patients are losing out.

1:33:12 > 1:33:15It could mean certain drugs will be available up to four years earlier

1:33:15 > 1:33:22than they are at the moment.

1:33:22 > 1:33:28At the moment there are various stages that are conducted for a

1:33:28 > 1:33:33device or drug in terms of regulatory approval and cost

1:33:33 > 1:33:35effectiveness, commercial negotiations with the NHS. The idea

1:33:35 > 1:33:38is to bring them all together and run in parallel, which make the

1:33:38 > 1:33:42process operate much more quickly so that those things with life changing

1:33:42 > 1:33:47impacts on people can be brought forward soon.

1:33:47 > 1:33:50Eight former Catalan government ministers have spent a night behind

1:33:50 > 1:33:52bars after a Spanish judge refused to grant them bail.

1:33:52 > 1:33:55They've been charged with rebellion, sedition and misuse of public funds

1:33:55 > 1:33:57in connection with the attempt to make Catalonia

1:33:57 > 1:33:58independent from Spain.

1:33:58 > 1:34:01Tens of thousands of Catalans staged a protest against their detention.

1:34:01 > 1:34:03The judge said the ministers might flee the country or destroy evidence

1:34:03 > 1:34:05if they were released.

1:34:05 > 1:34:09Spanish authorities have asked for a European arrest warrant

1:34:09 > 1:34:13for sacked Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont.

1:34:13 > 1:34:16It's emerged that the ashes of the Moors murderer Ian Brady

1:34:16 > 1:34:19were buried at sea in the middle of the night after he was

1:34:19 > 1:34:21cremated last week.

1:34:21 > 1:34:24Brady died in May at the age of 79, at Ashworth High Security

1:34:24 > 1:34:26Hospital in Merseyside.

1:34:26 > 1:34:28Court documents show that the cremation took place

1:34:28 > 1:34:31in Southport without any ceremony.

1:34:31 > 1:34:35His body had been kept in a hospital mortuary since his death.

1:34:35 > 1:34:37Brady and his accomplice Myra Hindley tortured and killed

1:34:37 > 1:34:42five children in the 1960s.

1:34:42 > 1:34:50That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:34:50 > 1:34:54Lots of you still getting in touch about the conversations we have had

1:34:54 > 1:34:58this morning about harassment allegations at Westminster. Rachel

1:34:58 > 1:35:01has tweeted, alcohol is not a problem. Read a tremendous abusing

1:35:01 > 1:35:07their power is the problem. Steve on Facebook says, alcohol would not be

1:35:07 > 1:35:09tolerated in any other workplace. Why should our members of

1:35:09 > 1:35:13Parliament, who are supposed to be making life changing decisions were

1:35:13 > 1:35:20people in our country, be allowed to drink at work question writers

1:35:20 > 1:35:21destroys -- it is disgraceful.

1:35:21 > 1:35:25Here's some sport now with Hugh Woozencroft.

1:35:25 > 1:35:29Patrice Evra could be in trouble with Uefa after appearing to aim a

1:35:29 > 1:35:33kick at a supporter of his current team, Marseille, before their Europa

1:35:33 > 1:35:36League game last night was he was sent off before kick-off. Marseille

1:35:36 > 1:35:41says it will conduct an internal investigation. Everton are out of

1:35:41 > 1:35:45the competition after a 3-0 defeat against Lyon. They have lost five

1:35:45 > 1:35:49matches in a row for the first time in 12 years. Arsenal made it through

1:35:49 > 1:35:58to the knockout stages with a draw against Red/ Belgrade. Jose Mourinho

1:35:58 > 1:36:04has appeared in a Spanish court after it was claimed he owes three

1:36:04 > 1:36:10and a half million pounds in undeclared image rights revenue.

1:36:10 > 1:36:13England cricket captain Joe Root says it is important to get the

1:36:13 > 1:36:17balance right for the players as to what they can do off the field

1:36:17 > 1:36:21between games there has been criticism about the conduct of

1:36:21 > 1:36:25players after an incident involving Alex Hales and Ben Stokes at a

1:36:25 > 1:36:28nightclub in September. That is all the sport now.

1:36:28 > 1:36:31Research has found that having high levels of good bacteria

1:36:31 > 1:36:33in the digestive system can have a positive effect

1:36:33 > 1:36:34on cancer therapy.

1:36:34 > 1:36:36Two studies suggest patients are more likely to respond

1:36:36 > 1:36:46to treatment that shrinks tumours.

1:36:48 > 1:36:52James Gallagher is here with us. We need to stop imagining the human

1:36:52 > 1:36:57body to live in isolated, sterile conditions. We are dealing with tens

1:36:57 > 1:37:02of thousands of bacteria and viruses which lived in and on our bodies. It

1:37:02 > 1:37:06sounds gross but it is something which happens to every single

1:37:06 > 1:37:09organism on the planet. That interacts with our human body in

1:37:09 > 1:37:14lots of different ways. Understanding this is starting to be

1:37:14 > 1:37:18implicated in a whole range of different diseases. This one looks

1:37:18 > 1:37:23at cancer. Having all that life living in and new causes it to

1:37:23 > 1:37:28interact with the immune system. Some immunotherapy is also interact

1:37:28 > 1:37:32with the immune system pulls up this study was looking at patients who

1:37:32 > 1:37:36did respond to immunotherapy and some who did not. They found stock

1:37:36 > 1:37:41differences between the to macro groups living inside their guts.

1:37:41 > 1:37:45They went, does this mean anything? They did further experiments and

1:37:45 > 1:37:49took some of the samples from patients and put them into animals.

1:37:49 > 1:37:54They spotted the web was affecting the cancer was growing. It was about

1:37:54 > 1:37:58changing the way the immune system works.We need to get more good

1:37:58 > 1:38:07bacteria.Yes but it is so much more Commper catered a statement. If you

1:38:07 > 1:38:12think about it, in these studies, they showed that certain species of

1:38:12 > 1:38:16bacteria were particularly helpful in some patients. They showed that

1:38:16 > 1:38:20diversity, the richness of the different species were important in

1:38:20 > 1:38:27response to therapy. If you think of tropical rainforests, they are rich

1:38:27 > 1:38:32and diverse in the natural world. Patients have completely different

1:38:32 > 1:38:37microbe biomes. You need to think how you can improve it. It is

1:38:37 > 1:38:42probably not the same answer for everyone. Let's improve life in the

1:38:42 > 1:38:46rainforest and put extra chimpanzees in, you would not do the same thing

1:38:46 > 1:38:52in a coral reef. Things would go wrong very quickly. How can you

1:38:52 > 1:38:58improve this in a way that would benefit patients?

1:38:58 > 1:39:02Let's talk now to Dr Emma Smith from Cancer Research UK.

1:39:02 > 1:39:06Thank you for coming in. It is confusing. James has described it

1:39:06 > 1:39:11and simplified it for us.Are you excited? Immunotherapy submitted

1:39:11 > 1:39:15huge difference to quite a lot of patience, even patients with a

1:39:15 > 1:39:19really bad prognosis before because their cancer had already spread.

1:39:19 > 1:39:22Immune therapies can be really effective for these patients. We are

1:39:22 > 1:39:27talking about people with advanced forms of kidney cancer and skin

1:39:27 > 1:39:29cancer and lung cancer. Immunotherapy is having shown to

1:39:29 > 1:39:34work. There has been a huge problem. They can have severe side effects

1:39:34 > 1:39:46and do not work for everyone. At the moment there is no good way of

1:39:46 > 1:39:49knowing who they will work for and who they will not work for. This

1:39:49 > 1:39:51kind of research will be really important to help doctors better use

1:39:51 > 1:39:54this treatment and not giving it to people who are unlikely to benefit.

1:39:54 > 1:39:57How do you discover what will work for me and work for you? There is no

1:39:57 > 1:40:01system at the moment to do that.We just do not know. We have done

1:40:01 > 1:40:05clinical trials and know that, on average they help a certain number

1:40:05 > 1:40:09of people. On an individual level, doctors never know if you will be

1:40:09 > 1:40:14one of the people who do respond with UL or not at all.I was reading

1:40:14 > 1:40:22Eliot on today this has managed to clear cases of even terminal cancer.

1:40:22 > 1:40:29-- earlier on today.Half of patients with advanced forms of the

1:40:29 > 1:40:32disease, in the past these patients would have had a really bad outlook

1:40:32 > 1:40:38because it is very difficult to treat once the cancer spreads. Only

1:40:38 > 1:40:42about half of people benefit from them. What is happening? Why are the

1:40:42 > 1:40:47other half of people not responding and how can we change that? This

1:40:47 > 1:40:52kind of research could provide an extra agony for making more people

1:40:52 > 1:40:57do well on these therapies, altering the bacteria that live in your gut,

1:40:57 > 1:41:02potentially, one day could mean the treatments are even more powerful.

1:41:02 > 1:41:06What does this mean for cancer patients right now? Presumably it is

1:41:06 > 1:41:11not just around the corner.The research is still quite early. It

1:41:11 > 1:41:16has been looking at mice. Something more immediate is the idea of who

1:41:16 > 1:41:23does respond versus who does not respond. It is about looking at what

1:41:23 > 1:41:28goes on in the gut. This person would not benefit from the

1:41:28 > 1:41:32immunotherapy drugs. Let's try something different. We do not want

1:41:32 > 1:41:36a whole raft of patients being given drugs with side effects and they do

1:41:36 > 1:41:41not even work.Is this an example of the money being pumped into research

1:41:41 > 1:41:48into cancer?It is a really good example. Immunotherapy has been

1:41:48 > 1:41:52around for awhile. Doctors are looking at ways of making them

1:41:52 > 1:41:55better and more effective. How do we combine with other treatments and

1:41:55 > 1:41:59figure out what kinds of cancer we can use them for? There is a lot of

1:41:59 > 1:42:03research going on and they are really powerful and it made a big to

1:42:03 > 1:42:12patients.Thank you.

1:42:12 > 1:42:14President Trump's Twitter account briefly vanished overnight but has

1:42:14 > 1:42:15since been restored.

1:42:15 > 1:42:17It was apparently deactivated by a disgruntled employee

1:42:17 > 1:42:19on their last day in the job.

1:42:19 > 1:42:23More details to follow shortly.

1:42:23 > 1:42:26Oscar Pistorius was a sporting hero - until he shot

1:42:26 > 1:42:30dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's Day 2013.

1:42:30 > 1:42:34The Paralympian claimed he thought she was an intruder hiding

1:42:34 > 1:42:37in the bathroom of their home in Pretoria - but was found guilty

1:42:37 > 1:42:39of culpable homicide.

1:42:39 > 1:42:42A year later his conviction was upgraded to murder.

1:42:42 > 1:42:45Now prosecutors are appearing at South Africa's Supreme Court

1:42:45 > 1:42:48of Appeal to argue that the 30-year-old's six year jail

1:42:48 > 1:42:52sentence was too lenient and should be longer.

1:42:52 > 1:42:55It is a one day hearing with a ruling at a later

1:42:55 > 1:42:57date and Pistorius - who was once known as Bladerunner -

1:42:57 > 1:43:00won't be in court.

1:43:00 > 1:43:03We will hear from our two guests shortly but first let's hear

1:43:03 > 1:43:05from our correspondent Pumza Fihlani who's been following the case

1:43:05 > 1:43:11and is in Johannesburg.

1:43:11 > 1:43:14First of all, just explain what the prosecution is arguing in court

1:43:14 > 1:43:20today.The court proceedings are under way at the moment in Pretoria.

1:43:20 > 1:43:24The prosecution is arguing that six years is too lenient sentence for

1:43:24 > 1:43:28murder here. The prescribed minimum sentence for murder in South Africa

1:43:28 > 1:43:34is 15 years. They are arguing before a panel of judges that the trial

1:43:34 > 1:43:38court judge who initially sentenced Oscar Pistorius was too lenient but

1:43:38 > 1:43:43gave no adequate reasons why she deviated so much from the sentence.

1:43:43 > 1:43:47They are worried in a country with such a high murder rate and a

1:43:47 > 1:43:51country where there is such a high rate of them aside, leaving the

1:43:51 > 1:43:59sentence unchanged will set a precedent. We understand that

1:43:59 > 1:44:02today's seedings will take the day and the judges will then go away and

1:44:02 > 1:44:08come back with a decision on whether to grant the state permission to

1:44:08 > 1:44:14appeal the sentence.-- proceedings. Thank you for updating us on that.

1:44:14 > 1:44:16Oscar Pistorius has supporters in many countries, including British

1:44:16 > 1:44:19based Heather Malcherczyk, who has followed his case

1:44:19 > 1:44:23from the start and met his family.

1:44:23 > 1:44:27We can also talk to Dr Lesley Ann Foster,

1:44:27 > 1:44:29who is from the Masimanyane Women's Rights International, which aims

1:44:29 > 1:44:38to end violence against women.

1:44:38 > 1:44:44First of all, Doctor Foster, do you think that Oscar Pistorius sentence

1:44:44 > 1:44:51should be increased?Absolutely. Through the levels of violence and

1:44:51 > 1:44:55them aside in this country, it is very important that we send out a

1:44:55 > 1:45:00clear message to the public that taking the life of a woman is a

1:45:00 > 1:45:06serious offence. As activists working in this country, we see the

1:45:06 > 1:45:11current sentencing of six years is merely a slap on the wrist and this

1:45:11 > 1:45:15is grossly inadequate. It sends out the wrong message, particularly in

1:45:15 > 1:45:25the context of the high rates of femicide.

1:45:25 > 1:45:28I have everything delivered all legitimate efforts to deal with

1:45:28 > 1:45:31domestic violence and gender violence in South Africa however

1:45:31 > 1:45:37this perception is wrong. What the state are trying to do is have him

1:45:37 > 1:45:41sentenced as though he was found guilty for the premeditated murder

1:45:41 > 1:45:47of Reeva Steenkamp. Femicide. That is not the case, however. And this

1:45:47 > 1:45:52view is incorrect. He was not found guilty for her premeditated murder.

1:45:52 > 1:45:59He was found guilty of murder.He was, the Supreme Court although they

1:45:59 > 1:46:03left undisturbed the factual finding of the High Court, that he did not

1:46:03 > 1:46:08know that she was in the bathroom, that he genuinely believed there was

1:46:08 > 1:46:14an intruder in the house, the Supreme Court, unlike the judge who

1:46:14 > 1:46:18accepted that his disability was relevant to the level of fear that

1:46:18 > 1:46:25he experienced on that night and the response, the shooting in panic, the

1:46:25 > 1:46:30Supreme Court disregarded all the expert evidence around his

1:46:30 > 1:46:35disability and his fear and the accelerated fear response that led

1:46:35 > 1:46:39to the shooting. However, he was not found guilty of intentionally

1:46:39 > 1:46:44killing Reeva, that is a misconception.So, is six years a

1:46:44 > 1:46:53correct sentence in your mind for the murder of a woman?I feel that

1:46:53 > 1:46:56six years, a chilly you say six years but we're talking about just

1:46:56 > 1:47:01under eight years, he's already served 21 months in prison and under

1:47:01 > 1:47:05house arrest.Is that correct sentence?I think it's too much

1:47:05 > 1:47:11because what we have here is an unprecedented dealing with his case

1:47:11 > 1:47:15differently to everyone else in South Africa who has killed someone

1:47:15 > 1:47:19inadvertently believing that they were an intruder.Accept we already

1:47:19 > 1:47:25know, as we heard, that the recommended sentence for murder is

1:47:25 > 1:47:2915 years and he was sentenced to six. I want to bring you back in,

1:47:29 > 1:47:35Doctor Foster, the usual at Oscar Pistorius's case and his sentences

1:47:35 > 1:47:40-- do you feel that his case and his sentencing has had an impact on

1:47:40 > 1:47:42domestic violence within South Africa? Something many people think

1:47:42 > 1:47:50is in them in society.I think that we don't have evidence to show that

1:47:50 > 1:47:53this case in particular has had an impact but what we have seen since

1:47:53 > 1:48:00this case is the huge spike in the number of women who have been

1:48:00 > 1:48:04killed. It's important that we do not individualise cases, we need to

1:48:04 > 1:48:08place this case within the broader system of how women are treated in

1:48:08 > 1:48:13this country. We cannot trivialise on life being taken. We say that we

1:48:13 > 1:48:20will look at this case where he was found guilty of murder, whether it

1:48:20 > 1:48:23is premeditated or not is irrelevant, Reeva Steenkamp lost her

1:48:23 > 1:48:29life and that is the bottom line and many other women are losing their

1:48:29 > 1:48:33lives. We cannot have a situation where some men is a certain aspects

1:48:33 > 1:48:40of their lives are given lesser sentences. In this case, she lost

1:48:40 > 1:48:45her life. A lot of the evidence if they revisited it now would come up

1:48:45 > 1:48:50with a different perspective because she was lying in bed with him, and

1:48:50 > 1:48:57he did not notice, that is not the argument, the argument is that women

1:48:57 > 1:49:00are losing their lives and those lives matter. We cannot say it

1:49:00 > 1:49:04doesn't matter, and it's disconnected from the systemic

1:49:04 > 1:49:11problem of how women are viewed in our society. So this sentence is

1:49:11 > 1:49:15important. What is also really fantastic is the fact that the state

1:49:15 > 1:49:24itself understands that it did not follow the due diligence principles

1:49:24 > 1:49:32which is is to insure the prevention, and Prosser Keeshan of

1:49:32 > 1:49:34domestic violence in -- and prosecution of domestic violence in

1:49:34 > 1:49:39our country. They have a contextual understanding of what happened here

1:49:39 > 1:49:46and they are saying we have fei world Reeva Steenkamp, and if we

1:49:46 > 1:49:50failed Reeva Steenkamp we will fail women more generally.I want Heather

1:49:50 > 1:49:55to pick up on some of those points. Doctor Foster is saying that Oscar

1:49:55 > 1:49:58Pistorius is not a special case, there should not be special

1:49:58 > 1:50:01circumstances, he needs to serve more than 60 is because this is

1:50:01 > 1:50:06about sending the message out across South Africa -- more than six years

1:50:06 > 1:50:12because this is about sending a message about violence towards

1:50:12 > 1:50:16women.I agree it should not be a single special case but he has been

1:50:16 > 1:50:21singled out. From the early stage where there was a manipulated

1:50:21 > 1:50:28character assassination in order to underpin the state's unfounded

1:50:28 > 1:50:32premeditation charge, he was singled out for special treatment and not in

1:50:32 > 1:50:36his favour. He has not been treated the same as any other person in

1:50:36 > 1:50:40those circumstances. If you look back in any other legal cases in

1:50:40 > 1:50:43South Africa, no one else has got to live with the fact that they have

1:50:43 > 1:50:46taken the life of a loved one inadvertently in the belief that

1:50:46 > 1:50:51they were protecting them from an intruder, in a country where home

1:50:51 > 1:50:57invasions are so often accompanied by an told brutality there is no one

1:50:57 > 1:51:02else who has had to deal with the murder conviction. The fact is, this

1:51:02 > 1:51:05sentence doesn't reflect what would normally reflect sentence for a

1:51:05 > 1:51:11murder conviction because the judge was faced with having to sentence

1:51:11 > 1:51:15him again for something that she actually sentenced him for the year

1:51:15 > 1:51:19before. The factual finding that he did not intend to kill Reeva was not

1:51:19 > 1:51:25undisturbed by the Supreme Court. She found ourselves in her

1:51:25 > 1:51:32unenviable position of sentencing him again for the same thing.

1:51:32 > 1:51:36Essentially he has been made an example of and that's not fair?

1:51:36 > 1:51:41That's not true at all. If you look at the levels of violence in our

1:51:41 > 1:51:46country and the kinds of cases that go to court, I would not say he was

1:51:46 > 1:51:51treated unfairly. So what's to say is, we have some of the finest legal

1:51:51 > 1:51:54minds in this country, they would not in Paris themselves and take a

1:51:54 > 1:51:58case back for review if -- embarrassing themselves and take a

1:51:58 > 1:52:03case back for review if they were not convinced that this particular

1:52:03 > 1:52:12sentence and results that the due diligence results.Forgive me for

1:52:12 > 1:52:15interrupting, we will certainly find out when this comes back from the

1:52:15 > 1:52:19supreme Appeal Court, thank you very much for both of you.

1:52:19 > 1:52:21Let's go back now to the ever growing scandal

1:52:21 > 1:52:22engulfing Westminster with harassment allegations

1:52:22 > 1:52:24and resignations dominating Westminster this week.

1:52:24 > 1:52:27Earlier I spoke with Ellie King who is a Conservative party member

1:52:27 > 1:52:29and Resham Kotecha who worked in Westminster for a Conservative MP

1:52:29 > 1:52:34and peer to get their views on the culture in politics.

1:52:39 > 1:52:43We have to be careful to not jump to quickly and have a knee jerk

1:52:43 > 1:52:45reaction on things that are speculation like the spreadsheet

1:52:45 > 1:52:49we've seen, but actually in cases where there have been allegations

1:52:49 > 1:52:52made which are serious, it's right that we withdraw the width

1:52:52 > 1:52:56regardless of the party and make sure the people who have been

1:52:56 > 1:53:00affected feel safe and know their concerns are taken seriously.It's

1:53:00 > 1:53:03interesting you say react quickly, certainly the woman who has made

1:53:03 > 1:53:07these allegations claimed that she made the complaint two years ago, we

1:53:07 > 1:53:12had earlier on the BBC has been told that he was reprimanded. Why has it

1:53:12 > 1:53:16taken two years and why was he then promoted to the Labour front bench

1:53:16 > 1:53:21is?Other political parties reacting quickly in your view? I think they

1:53:21 > 1:53:26are reacting now it's starting to come out and no one wants to kick up

1:53:26 > 1:53:32a fuss. We do need to kick up a fuss and react quickly and look at it on

1:53:32 > 1:53:35a case-by-case basis and see what the allegations that have been made,

1:53:35 > 1:53:40have a look at them quickly and take the appropriate action.To you both,

1:53:40 > 1:53:44having worked in Westminster and we will talk about these experiences in

1:53:44 > 1:53:48a moment, do you expect there will be more of these allegations coming

1:53:48 > 1:53:51out over the coming days and weeks? It's hard to think that they will

1:53:51 > 1:53:58not. This sort of thing is, if you have been affected, and I would like

1:53:58 > 1:54:03to say I had an amazing three years and I was not affected, but if you

1:54:03 > 1:54:05are affected there is strength in numbers and you feel as though

1:54:05 > 1:54:08people are finally taken it seriously, light is being shed and

1:54:08 > 1:54:13you feel comfortable and safe to come out so I think we will. I think

1:54:13 > 1:54:16this is exactly why we need an entire shift in the way things are

1:54:16 > 1:54:20treated and dealt with in Parliament because we need an independent

1:54:20 > 1:54:23service that people can go to sit it should not be up to an individual

1:54:23 > 1:54:28party to deal with these sorts of allegations and say you have been

1:54:28 > 1:54:31slapped on the wrist and that is enough because that might not be

1:54:31 > 1:54:34enough, especially depending on the circumstances. If we have an

1:54:34 > 1:54:39independent service, if MPs have do sign up to a contractually binding

1:54:39 > 1:54:44contract about their behaviour and they have training on what is and

1:54:44 > 1:54:46isn't accessed of all, you will be able to see these sorts of

1:54:46 > 1:54:49situations dealt with quickly which they are not at the moment.Two MPs

1:54:49 > 1:54:53really need to be trained on what appropriate and not appropriate?--

1:54:53 > 1:54:57do they need to be trained? I think they do, I'm a student and one of

1:54:57 > 1:55:02the things we talk about all the time is consent and we have consent

1:55:02 > 1:55:07workshops and campaigns. It does sound ridiculous, you think, I know

1:55:07 > 1:55:13what consent is. But because the lines are so blurred, and it's so

1:55:13 > 1:55:16unsure about what is perceived as accessed double and what is not...

1:55:16 > 1:55:21But you can understand that at university and young people

1:55:21 > 1:55:23experimenting and pushing the boundaries, the point of being a