0:00:07 > 0:00:11Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
0:00:11 > 0:00:16Welcome to the programme.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Can the International Development Secretary hang on to her job? She
0:00:19 > 0:00:27has been ordered to fly back from a trip to Africa to face the music.
0:00:27 > 0:00:32Priti Patel didn't tell the Prime Minister about all the meetings she
0:00:32 > 0:00:37had with Israeli officials.Is it time the Secretary of State faces a
0:00:37 > 0:00:44Cabinet Office investigation or does the decent thing and just resigns.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47We've had exclusive access to one of the world's
0:00:47 > 0:00:55most hidden societies - the freemasons - famous
0:00:55 > 0:01:00Do you use secret hand shakes?Of course, we do.Can you do it with me
0:01:00 > 0:01:05now?No, it's a secret.What happens and when do you do it?It's a
0:01:05 > 0:01:11secret.It is fascinating. We will find out too if claims and
0:01:11 > 0:01:15corruption and collusion amongst the female Freemasons is true. The
0:01:15 > 0:01:19number of homeless people in England has gone up according to Shelter.
0:01:19 > 0:01:24They say there are over 260,000 home people in this country. That's
0:01:24 > 0:01:28around the population of Newcastle.
0:01:34 > 0:01:42Hello and welcome to the programme. We're live until 11am.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45Are you officially homeless? You will know that definition includes
0:01:45 > 0:01:49anyone on the streets or in temporary accommodation? If that's
0:01:49 > 0:01:54you, let me know what led to your homelessness and what is happening
0:01:54 > 0:02:01to help you get somewhere permanent? We will talk about that after 10am.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03The International Development Secretary's future in the Cabinet is
0:02:03 > 0:02:08in doubt after details emerged of further undisclosed meetings she had
0:02:08 > 0:02:11with Israeli politicians. It is believed Priti Patel, who is flying
0:02:11 > 0:02:15back from Uganda at the request of Theresa May, had two more meetings
0:02:15 > 0:02:18after she returned from her summer holiday in Israel, but failed to
0:02:18 > 0:02:26tell the Prime Minister about them when she spoke to Mrs May on Monday.
0:02:26 > 0:02:31Norman Smith is at Westminster. So she will be on a plane shortly. Is
0:02:31 > 0:02:35that because Mrs May wants to sack her to her face?She is on the plane
0:02:35 > 0:02:40now, somewhere over the Sudan. She caught a flight back from Nairobi a
0:02:40 > 0:02:44short time ago at the request of Downing Street and I think we can
0:02:44 > 0:02:49take it from that she will be summoned into Number Ten to explain
0:02:49 > 0:02:55what she didn't tell the Prime Minister when she was called in for
0:02:55 > 0:02:59that face-to-face meeting on Monday to come clean, to receive that
0:02:59 > 0:03:02formal rebuke, reprimand, warning about her conduct, why at that
0:03:02 > 0:03:07meeting she didn't come clean and tell the Prime Minister all the
0:03:07 > 0:03:11different meetings she had with different Israeli Prime Ministers,
0:03:11 > 0:03:16politicians, because it now transpires there were two further
0:03:16 > 0:03:23meetings which she neglected to tell Mrs May about. At both those
0:03:23 > 0:03:27meetings, there were no other government officials there as they
0:03:27 > 0:03:32normally are, at both those meetings, The President of the
0:03:32 > 0:03:35conservative Friends of Israel was also there and they were not
0:03:35 > 0:03:40recorded and reported in the normal way. Highly, highly unusual
0:03:40 > 0:03:43behaviour which she didn't tell the Prime Minister about. More than
0:03:43 > 0:03:47that, she didn't tell the Prime Minister also that she had asked her
0:03:47 > 0:03:56department to look into providing tax payers cash to go to the Israeli
0:03:56 > 0:04:07army on the occupied October Golan Heights. She misled the Prime
0:04:07 > 0:04:12Minister and more than that, she misled Parliament because her number
0:04:12 > 0:04:19two had to go to the Commons yesterday to explain she had been up
0:04:19 > 0:04:23to and he wasn't in the loop with her ties with Israeli politicians.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27The expectation is she will get into London at 3pm. And she will be
0:04:27 > 0:04:29hauled in front of the Prime Minister and asked to give her
0:04:29 > 0:04:33version of events and then she will be sacked.Go that does happen, and
0:04:33 > 0:04:39Mrs May ends up losing her International Development Secretary,
0:04:39 > 0:04:42a week after her Defence Secretary resigned. What does it mean for Mrs
0:04:42 > 0:04:46May's government?It is bad, bad, bad, but it could be worse. Yes, of
0:04:46 > 0:04:52course losing a second minister in less than a week is a nightmare. You
0:04:52 > 0:04:59also do not want someone like Priti Patel, highly ambitious leading face
0:04:59 > 0:05:02of Brexit on the backbenches breathing down your neck, but look
0:05:02 > 0:05:06at it this, what if Mrs May bottled and decided to turn the other cheek
0:05:06 > 0:05:12and not boot her out of the Cabinet, how weak would that look and in a
0:05:12 > 0:05:18way, the Prime Minister has no other options. Priti Patel has already had
0:05:18 > 0:05:23to issue in inverted commas clarifications. She has already had
0:05:23 > 0:05:27to apologise. She has already received a formal rep pra manned
0:05:27 > 0:05:33from the Prime Minister. What more can Mrs May do but sack her. Yes,
0:05:33 > 0:05:37it's bad, but believe you me t could possibly be even worse if she did
0:05:37 > 0:05:40nothing. Thank you, Norman. Thank you very
0:05:40 > 0:05:43much. More reaction on that story at
0:05:43 > 0:05:469.15am.
0:05:46 > 0:05:48Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
0:05:48 > 0:05:50of the rest of the day's news.
0:05:50 > 0:05:53Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing as he continues his tour of Asia.
0:05:53 > 0:05:57The American President took a tour of the Forbidden City
0:05:57 > 0:06:00in the capital alongside his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Mr Trump is expected to ask China to cut its financial
0:06:02 > 0:06:04links with North Korea.
0:06:04 > 0:06:07Speaking in South Korea earlier, Mr Trump urged all countries to join
0:06:07 > 0:06:09forces to isolate Pyongyang, saying the world could not tolerate
0:06:09 > 0:06:19a rogue nation that threatened nuclear devastation.
0:06:19 > 0:06:23The weapons you are acquiring are not making you safer. They are
0:06:23 > 0:06:30putting your regime in grave danger. Every step you take down this dark
0:06:30 > 0:06:37path, increases the peril you face. Yet despite every crime you have
0:06:37 > 0:06:42committed against god and man, you are already to offer and we will do
0:06:42 > 0:06:52that. We will offer a path to a much better future.
0:06:52 > 0:06:56Our China Correspondent, Stephen McDonnell, is in Beijing.
0:06:56 > 0:07:01What sort of hearing are the Chinese likely to give to that request from
0:07:01 > 0:07:05President Trump that they cut their financial ties with North Korea?
0:07:05 > 0:07:10Well, I'm standing outside the Forbidden City where Donald Trump
0:07:10 > 0:07:16and Xi Jinping and their wives met and had a cup of tea and an informal
0:07:16 > 0:07:26chat. N sure if they have had this difficult conversation. As to what
0:07:26 > 0:07:28the Chinese will say to Donald Trump. There is a difference of
0:07:28 > 0:07:34view, Donald Trump said that he has called on Russia and China to fully
0:07:34 > 0:07:37implement the UN sanctions against North Korea. China says well, we are
0:07:37 > 0:07:41already doing that. Donald Trump said this morning, he rhetorically
0:07:41 > 0:07:45asked the question, why would China be supporting the regime in North
0:07:45 > 0:07:48Korea, given its horrendous Human Rights record and its nuclear
0:07:48 > 0:07:51weapons programme. Again, the Chinese would say, we are doing more
0:07:51 > 0:07:55than anyone else is to try and pressure North Korea to come to the
0:07:55 > 0:08:00table. But really the challenge for both of them is to come up with
0:08:00 > 0:08:05something that will further this process because North Korea is
0:08:05 > 0:08:08showing no inclination whatsoever that it is prepared to talk about
0:08:08 > 0:08:13giving up nuclear weapons. It wants the world to accept it as a nuclear
0:08:13 > 0:08:19weapons nation and Vladimir Putin said the North Koreans would rather
0:08:19 > 0:08:23eat grass than give up their nuclear weapons. So possibly, if he's right,
0:08:23 > 0:08:30it doesn't matter how much pressure, China, the US, South Korea, Japan
0:08:30 > 0:08:35can bring to bear on North Korea, they won't give up their nuclear
0:08:35 > 0:08:38weapons, we will have to see if Donald Trump and his Chinese
0:08:38 > 0:08:41counterpart, Xi Jinping, can come up with anything which might move this
0:08:41 > 0:08:45along.Stephen, thank you very much.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48The Prince of Wales has been criticised for failing to disclose
0:08:48 > 0:08:51an investment by his private estate in an offshore company.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54The revelations come from a number of leaked documents about tax havens
0:08:54 > 0:08:55known as the Paradise Papers.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57It's the second time this week that a member
0:08:57 > 0:08:59of the Royal Family has been named.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03Andy Verity reports.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06Prince Charles has campaigned on the environment for decades
0:09:06 > 0:09:07and especially for the rainforest.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10Today, he is due to arrive in India, after flying from Malaysia,
0:09:10 > 0:09:14as criticism grew at home of his failure to disclose
0:09:14 > 0:09:18a secret financial stake in a company in Bermuda.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20On the right here is the late Hugh van Cutsem, one
0:09:20 > 0:09:24of the Prince's oldest friends.
0:09:24 > 0:09:27He was a director of Sustainable Forestry Management Limited,
0:09:27 > 0:09:30a firm that managed tropical rainforests, registered in Bermuda.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33The company wanted to trade in carbon credits, but tropical
0:09:33 > 0:09:34rainforests weren't included in carbon credit trading schemes
0:09:34 > 0:09:42so it needed the rules changed.
0:09:42 > 0:09:46In February 2007, the Duchy bought 50 shares in van Cutsem's
0:09:46 > 0:09:49company worth $113,500.
0:09:49 > 0:09:51At that time, SFM's directors agreed to keep the Duchy's
0:09:51 > 0:09:56shares confidential.
0:09:56 > 0:10:01Mr van Cutsem asked for lobbying documents to be sent to the Prince's
0:10:01 > 0:10:05office and soon the Prince was making speeches campaigning
0:10:05 > 0:10:10for changes to two international agreements on carbon credits.
0:10:10 > 0:10:12In June 2008, the Duchy sold its shares for $325,000,
0:10:12 > 0:10:16a profit of more than $200,000.
0:10:16 > 0:10:18Well, I think it's a serious conflict.
0:10:18 > 0:10:20There's a conflict of interest between his own investments
0:10:20 > 0:10:23of the Duchy of Cornwall and what he's trying
0:10:23 > 0:10:26to achieve publicly.
0:10:26 > 0:10:28Clarence House said, "The Prince does not have
0:10:28 > 0:10:30any direct involvement in the investment decisions taken
0:10:30 > 0:10:34by the Duchy and he has certainly never chosen to speak out on a topic
0:10:34 > 0:10:39simply because of a company that it may have invested in."
0:10:39 > 0:10:41There's no suggestion of illegality, nor that Prince Charles's
0:10:41 > 0:10:44campaigning caused the share price of his friend's company to rise.
0:10:44 > 0:10:52Nor is it suggested that the Duchy was seeking to avoid tax.
0:10:54 > 0:10:58The First Minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones, is under pressure
0:10:58 > 0:11:02to give details about his decision to sack Carl Sargeant
0:11:02 > 0:11:04a member of his Cabinet who was found dead yesterday.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07He told Mr Sargeant to leave his post last week
0:11:07 > 0:11:08because of unspecified allegations about his behaviour.
0:11:08 > 0:11:14One Labour member of the Welsh Assembly said
0:11:14 > 0:11:16there was "deep unease" in the group.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19Thousands of people with the most advanced cancers in England are now
0:11:19 > 0:11:20surviving for several years after diagnosis,
0:11:20 > 0:11:21according to new research.
0:11:21 > 0:11:24MacMillan Cancer Support said this is down to the success
0:11:24 > 0:11:26of new treatments but it warned living longer with advanced cancer
0:11:26 > 0:11:28can bring its own difficulties.
0:11:28 > 0:11:35Our Health Correspondent Sophie Hutchinson reports.
0:11:35 > 0:11:38Carol Fenton has lived with stage four breast cancer
0:11:38 > 0:11:41for the past two years.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44The tumour has spread from where it started to another organ.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47She says living with this level of disease has meant
0:11:47 > 0:11:48a lot of uncertainty.
0:11:48 > 0:11:54The breast cancer has actually spread to my spine,
0:11:54 > 0:11:58my right and left hip and also in my liver.
0:11:58 > 0:12:02And it's incredibly devastating to hear that when, you know,
0:12:02 > 0:12:06I was doing so well.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10Today, the charity MacMillan Cancer Support says thousands of people
0:12:10 > 0:12:12are now living longer with advanced cancer.
0:12:12 > 0:12:14Figures from England's National Cancer Register from 2015 suggest
0:12:14 > 0:12:19at least 17,000 people survived for two years or more
0:12:19 > 0:12:22after a stage four diagnosis.
0:12:22 > 0:12:26They include people with breast, prostate, lung and bowel cancer.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29The charity says it's the first time survival figures for advanced cancer
0:12:29 > 0:12:31have been publicly available and shows the impact of improved
0:12:31 > 0:12:36treatments for patients.
0:12:36 > 0:12:41I am taking oral chemotherapy. I'm on my third range of treatment.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44There has been some progression in that two and a half years
0:12:44 > 0:12:49but my scans have been stable since January.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52I've been on the same treatment since January,
0:12:52 > 0:12:57which is incredibly good news.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00Today's report is calling for better support and care for people
0:13:00 > 0:13:03like Carol so that they can live as long as possible and as well as
0:13:03 > 0:13:06possible with the disease.
0:13:07 > 0:13:13The head of NHS England will warn today that the public wants to see
0:13:13 > 0:13:15promises on NHS funding made during the EU
0:13:15 > 0:13:18referendum campaign honoured by the government.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20Simon Stevens will tell a health conference that trust
0:13:20 > 0:13:22in the democratic process will be weakened, if higher
0:13:22 > 0:13:25funding is not delivered.
0:13:25 > 0:13:28Five rail operators are facing disruption due to strike action
0:13:28 > 0:13:31by the Rail, Maritime and Transport union.
0:13:31 > 0:13:33Workers on Southern, Greater Anglia and South Western Railway
0:13:33 > 0:13:35are striking for 48 hours, while staff on Merseyrail
0:13:35 > 0:13:38and Northern have walked out for 24 hours.
0:13:38 > 0:13:45The union is in dispute over driver-only operated trains.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56Sheep might not have the reputation for being the cleverest of animals,
0:13:56 > 0:13:58but new research shows they can learn to recognise human faces.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01A group of Welsh Mountain sheep had special training
0:14:01 > 0:14:03after which they could pick out the faces of celebrities actors
0:14:03 > 0:14:05Jake Gyllenhaal and Emma Watson and former US President Barack
0:14:05 > 0:14:07Obama.
0:14:07 > 0:14:10They were tested to see if they could identify the famous faces
0:14:10 > 0:14:11among other photos.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13Researchers say it shows sheep possess similar face recognition
0:14:13 > 0:14:18abilities to primates.
0:14:18 > 0:14:23Andy Murray and his wife, Kim, have announced the birth of their second
0:14:23 > 0:14:36child. The couple gave birth to a baby girl.
0:14:36 > 0:14:42If you wonder why Fiona Bruce's name is on Twitter, it is because the
0:14:42 > 0:14:52sheep were trying to recognise her as well!
0:14:52 > 0:14:56Norman Smith told us that Priti Patel is on a plane back to the UK
0:14:56 > 0:15:02now. She didn't tell the Prime Minister how many meetings she had
0:15:02 > 0:15:05with Israeli politicians. What should happen to her? Should she be
0:15:05 > 0:15:08sacked? What does it mean for Theresa May's government? If you are
0:15:08 > 0:15:11getting in touch, you're welcome.
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0:15:18 > 0:15:20Let's get some sport with Katherine Downes.
0:15:20 > 0:15:25Andy Murray has made a return to tennis.
0:15:25 > 0:15:31First a new baby daughter and then the return to court. We haven't seen
0:15:31 > 0:15:35him since Wimbledon in July and then he pulled out of the US Open two
0:15:35 > 0:15:38days before the tournament was supposed to start. So we haven't
0:15:38 > 0:15:42seen him play since July. He had an operation on his hip and he has been
0:15:42 > 0:15:46gradually coming back to fitness looking perhaps for a return to
0:15:46 > 0:15:50competitive tennis at the start of next year with an eye on the
0:15:50 > 0:15:57Australian Open in January. This is what he had to say about his return.
0:15:57 > 0:16:00I'm in a significantly better place than I was, you know,
0:16:00 > 0:16:02in the build-up to the US Open.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04And certainly at the end of Wimbledon, you know,
0:16:04 > 0:16:05I was really struggling there.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08Walking was, you know, a big problem for me, you know.
0:16:08 > 0:16:14So I just try to get myself back to 100%.
0:16:14 > 0:16:19Yesterday he was playing in an exhibition match against Roger
0:16:19 > 0:16:22Federer. Roger Federer missed big chunks of the year as well but went
0:16:22 > 0:16:26on to win the Australian open and Wimbledon by picking when he
0:16:26 > 0:16:30returned to action. This was Federer's first visit to Scotland
0:16:30 > 0:16:37and they had a bit of fun with it. Andy Murray wearing a Scottish hat
0:16:37 > 0:16:46and Roger Federer putting a kilt and!
0:16:46 > 0:16:51Good to see Andy Murray back on court. As he said, it's not about
0:16:51 > 0:16:54being world number one any more. He's dropped out of the top ten for
0:16:54 > 0:16:58the first time in three years. He said afterwards I just want to play
0:16:58 > 0:17:04tennis again, it's my life and my job.What's going on with Tyson Fury
0:17:04 > 0:17:09and the UK anti-doping agency?The UK anti-doping agency are a bit
0:17:09 > 0:17:12worried they are facing insolvency over a legal battle they've got
0:17:12 > 0:17:17going on with the former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury. He tested
0:17:17 > 0:17:23positive for steroids in June last year. Part of his defence was that
0:17:23 > 0:17:26he ate uncastrated wild boar which has high levels of testosterone in
0:17:26 > 0:17:31it. This case has rumbled on to the point where Tyson Fury hasn't fought
0:17:31 > 0:17:39the two years. The agency are worried that if he wins the appeal
0:17:39 > 0:17:43he may sue them for loss of earnings. The UK anti-doping agency
0:17:43 > 0:17:48have an annual budget of £8 million, so it would be financially a bit
0:17:48 > 0:17:53difficult for them if they were to be sued by Tyson Fury. However,
0:17:53 > 0:17:56they've said they don't want to pursue this case because it sends
0:17:56 > 0:18:01out the wrong message if they drop it -- they said they do want to
0:18:01 > 0:18:07pursue this case because the integrity of the sport is as
0:18:07 > 0:18:12important. Also it sends a message to sports stars that if they carry
0:18:12 > 0:18:15on with long protracted legal proceedings they'll be able to deep
0:18:15 > 0:18:24the doping system anyway.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26Can the International Development Secretary survive?
0:18:26 > 0:18:28It doesn't look likely - she's been ordered this morning
0:18:28 > 0:18:30to fly back from a trip to Uganda.
0:18:30 > 0:18:33It was bad enough that she met her boss the PM on Monday to apologise
0:18:33 > 0:18:36for arranging and holding 12 secret meetings with Israeli politicians
0:18:36 > 0:18:39on a "family holiday" in the summer without telling anyone in advance.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41She apologised to Mrs May for that earlier this week,
0:18:41 > 0:18:44but it's now emerged she failed to tell Mrs May about two further
0:18:44 > 0:18:47meetings with Israeli officials that took place in September.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49With me is Crispin Blunt, Conservative MP and former chair
0:18:49 > 0:18:53of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56Also joining us is Sir Desmond Swayne, former Minister of State
0:18:56 > 0:18:58for International Development under Prime Minister David Cameron.
0:18:58 > 0:19:07And Labour's Jon Trickett, Shadow Cabinet Office Minister.
0:19:07 > 0:19:14Good morning gentlemen. Crispin Blunt, she has misled her boss, she
0:19:14 > 0:19:17can't be trusted, doesn't she deserved to lose her job?That's
0:19:17 > 0:19:21going to be for the Prime Minister to decide and she'll have a full
0:19:21 > 0:19:27picture.What do you think?She will know who said what to who.She
0:19:27 > 0:19:32didn't on Monday, did she?I don't know whether that was correct, so it
0:19:32 > 0:19:35will have to be a matter for the Prime Minister, who will hopefully
0:19:35 > 0:19:40have people picture as to what she said and whether the apology...It
0:19:40 > 0:19:44doesn't look good, does it?And whether the apology she made
0:19:44 > 0:19:52yesterday cuts it for her. No, it doesn't look good and if she is
0:19:52 > 0:19:56flying back from a ministerial visit then plainly something is up. Laura
0:19:56 > 0:20:00Kuenssberg has drawn the conclusion that sometime this morning she may
0:20:00 > 0:20:05be out of a job. It's up for the Prime Minister to decide and time
0:20:05 > 0:20:11will tell.You're a former international development minister.
0:20:11 > 0:20:18Can you imagine you're then International Development Secretary
0:20:18 > 0:20:23holding secret meetings, so many secret meetings, with officials from
0:20:23 > 0:20:26another country including the Prime Minister of another country, and not
0:20:26 > 0:20:29telling anyone? Then when you were challenged, not telling the Prime
0:20:29 > 0:20:34Minister the full story?Clearly there weren't secret meetings
0:20:34 > 0:20:40because they aren't secret.Not now. What has happened with respect to
0:20:40 > 0:20:47the meetings that took place in Israel, that has already been the
0:20:47 > 0:20:55subject of a clear reprimand from the Prime Minister. I'll confine
0:20:55 > 0:20:59myself to these additional meetings in September. All I can say is that
0:20:59 > 0:21:03that is part of the routine business of any department of state, and
0:21:03 > 0:21:07particularly the Department for International Development. I
0:21:07 > 0:21:09conducted meetings with ministers and officials from other countries
0:21:09 > 0:21:14all the time, but I would not have expected to have been reported to
0:21:14 > 0:21:21Number 10. Of course they wouldn't all have been properly recorded and
0:21:21 > 0:21:27subject to any kind of search public records.If you found yourself in a
0:21:27 > 0:21:30conversation with your ultimate boss, the Prime Minister, having to
0:21:30 > 0:21:34explain why you hadn't informed the Foreign Office about meeting the
0:21:34 > 0:21:38Israeli Prime Minister, at that point might you think it would be
0:21:38 > 0:21:42wise to mention a couple of further meetings that happened in September?
0:21:42 > 0:21:47You're asking me to speculate about the nature of a meeting that I
0:21:47 > 0:21:52wasn't at.I'm asking you to tell me what you would have done.That
0:21:52 > 0:21:56sounds entirely plausible the way you put it. But I wasn't at that
0:21:56 > 0:22:00meeting, and I'm not able to save whether it would have been
0:22:00 > 0:22:06appropriate to mention by the way I met another minister on the 20th of
0:22:06 > 0:22:11February or whatever it is. Of course it's entirely plausible that
0:22:11 > 0:22:15an opportunity may have arisen and she ought to have used it, but
0:22:15 > 0:22:19equally, given the nature of that meeting that none of us were at, we
0:22:19 > 0:22:23aren't in a position to say whether or not it was appropriate. Only the
0:22:23 > 0:22:30Prime Minister can make that judgment and I'm sure she will.What
0:22:30 > 0:22:37do you think should happen?You've got a minister who has engaged in a
0:22:37 > 0:22:41series of activities and attempted to engage in a cover-up. She didn't
0:22:41 > 0:22:45tell the Prime Minister of those meetings, she had no civil servants
0:22:45 > 0:22:50with her but a lobbyist. The two meetings you've just heard Sir
0:22:50 > 0:22:53Desmond referring to, actually her department refused to set those
0:22:53 > 0:22:58meetings up as far as we can tell. She then used her own constituency
0:22:58 > 0:23:07office as a way of getting around the civil service. The point is
0:23:07 > 0:23:13this, the Middle East is a very, very delicate area. You cannot have
0:23:13 > 0:23:18a cabinet minister who is not the Foreign Secretary effectively
0:23:18 > 0:23:24running her own foreign policy.What should happen to her?She's clearly
0:23:24 > 0:23:29broken the code of conduct.What should happen?There's a code of
0:23:29 > 0:23:33conduct, she broke it. I wrote to the Prime Minister, I wrote again
0:23:33 > 0:23:38yesterday. She should be sacked. Crispin Blunt, the accusation is
0:23:38 > 0:23:43that Priti Patel was running her own foreign policy and also trying to
0:23:43 > 0:23:48bolster support for any future leadership campaign.We are
0:23:48 > 0:23:52extending things a bit there with that last remark. She's always been
0:23:52 > 0:23:59a strong supporter of Israel, and she was on holiday in Israel and
0:23:59 > 0:24:04decided with the support of Lord Polak the president of the
0:24:04 > 0:24:08conservative friends of Israel to set up this series of meetings,
0:24:08 > 0:24:12because they have these good contacts. That would have been fine,
0:24:12 > 0:24:15had the rest of the government known about it and she could have been
0:24:15 > 0:24:22briefed what line to take on those meetings.No Foreign Office
0:24:22 > 0:24:26officials were present, no minutes were taken.All of that was in
0:24:26 > 0:24:31process run, in principle wrong and she has apologised for it. There is
0:24:31 > 0:24:38an important duty on her coming into this issue with Apus -- with a
0:24:38 > 0:24:45perceived perspective that she understands the Palestinian
0:24:45 > 0:24:48perspective in the Israel Palestine conflict. I chaired the Middle East
0:24:48 > 0:24:59Council for five years and I took a huge amount of trouble to make clear
0:24:59 > 0:25:04that I understand the Israeli perspective. Just so you can't be
0:25:04 > 0:25:09charged you are unbalanced on the issue. She and other ministers who
0:25:09 > 0:25:25have done exactly this, no one would accuse...Sir Desmond, if Mrs May
0:25:25 > 0:25:29does sack Priti Patel, what does that mean for the stability of this
0:25:29 > 0:25:36Conservative government?I heard the report from your commentator earlier
0:25:36 > 0:25:39about the hyperbole. Actually I don't think it makes a great deal of
0:25:39 > 0:25:44difference.You don't think it's unusual that within a week
0:25:44 > 0:25:49potentially two Cabinet ministers are out of a job?There are 22
0:25:49 > 0:25:54Cabinet ministers and there are plenty of people who can step into
0:25:54 > 0:26:00their shoes. It will not be a huge destabilisation. Of course it's
0:26:00 > 0:26:04unwelcome, but it's not the catastrophe that some commentators
0:26:04 > 0:26:09who spend little time thinking of little else would have us believe.
0:26:09 > 0:26:12Crispin Blunt, can I ask you what to think about Priti Patel
0:26:12 > 0:26:16commissioning her department to use taxpayers money to help potentially
0:26:16 > 0:26:22be humanitarian work of the Israeli army, which Alistair Burt said to
0:26:22 > 0:26:25MPs yesterday have been ruled out immediately by the Foreign Office
0:26:25 > 0:26:31has not appropriate?Because plainly it should have made some sense to
0:26:31 > 0:26:35her that commissioning work by the Israeli defence Force in occupied
0:26:35 > 0:26:41territory that we don't recognise should have been a no-no. The task
0:26:41 > 0:26:44that she was examining was assistance to Syrian refugees being
0:26:44 > 0:26:51given by the state of Israel, which is obviously something humanitarians
0:26:51 > 0:26:54would want to support. It's not as black and white as it would seem but
0:26:54 > 0:27:01it should have been black and white...What do you think of her
0:27:01 > 0:27:05doing that?She commissioned the advice, she got the advice and it's
0:27:05 > 0:27:09not happening. She is entitled to ask questions and explore
0:27:09 > 0:27:12possibilities. That's what you would expect a minister to be doing.
0:27:12 > 0:27:18Really? Commissioned some work to see if British taxpayers money would
0:27:18 > 0:27:23be sent to the Israeli army?It's not a straightforward as that. It
0:27:23 > 0:27:27was money to support the medical treatment of Syrian refugees who
0:27:27 > 0:27:33were then coming over the border and being dealt with...By the Israeli
0:27:33 > 0:27:39armyin that territory.In disputed territory.The issue was that she
0:27:39 > 0:27:44was considering was the humanitarian one. Plainly, an imminent's
0:27:44 > 0:27:48reflection and a consultation with the Foreign Office about our policy
0:27:48 > 0:27:52towards that, it wasn't appropriate. So the internal discussions within
0:27:52 > 0:27:55the government would reveal that and a decision was made.Shouldn't she
0:27:55 > 0:28:01have known that? Come on. You're being very kind to her.That is
0:28:01 > 0:28:04where she is in trouble because she's not demonstrated that she's
0:28:04 > 0:28:10got a real grip on the whole history of the Israel Palestine conflict.
0:28:10 > 0:28:14When you get into foreign policy issues such as this, or Kashmir
0:28:14 > 0:28:17where things are very delicate between the competing parties, you
0:28:17 > 0:28:21have to be very careful if you appeared to take one side of an
0:28:21 > 0:28:26argument, where Britain has a long developed policy position as we do
0:28:26 > 0:28:30on the occupied territories.Sir Desmond, what do you think of that,
0:28:30 > 0:28:33commissioning the department to see of money could be sent to the
0:28:33 > 0:28:36Israeli army for their humanitarian work in disputed territory?I think
0:28:36 > 0:28:42it would have been a short piece of work before it emerged...And asking
0:28:42 > 0:28:46about the act of even asking for work to be done.I think it's proper
0:28:46 > 0:28:50to ask questions and think laterally. I did think it would have
0:28:50 > 0:28:54taken long to come up with the answer that that wasn't a proper way
0:28:54 > 0:28:58to use taxpayers money.Jon Trickett, your take on that?She's
0:28:58 > 0:29:02had a series of meetings kept secret from the Prime Minister, not told
0:29:02 > 0:29:08the full picture of when she's met the Prime Minister, and then she's
0:29:08 > 0:29:13asked the Department to effectively explore giving money, our money, to
0:29:13 > 0:29:17the Israeli army. It's extraordinary. The Prime Minister
0:29:17 > 0:29:23found out about it by listening to the radio. Come off it, this is an
0:29:23 > 0:29:26outrageous set of actions. It's very disturbing to the Middle East peace
0:29:26 > 0:29:31process to even think that the British government might do that.
0:29:31 > 0:29:35It's why, frankly, you have to have civil servants with you when you're
0:29:35 > 0:29:38a senior minister meeting members of the country's governments. She has
0:29:38 > 0:29:46to go.Thank you.
0:29:46 > 0:29:50Your reaction is welcome. You can send us an e-mail or message us on
0:29:50 > 0:29:53twitter.
0:29:53 > 0:29:54Still to come:
0:29:54 > 0:29:56The secret ceremonies and rituals of Female Freemasons -
0:29:56 > 0:30:01we get unique access.
0:30:01 > 0:30:06It is fascinating.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08And yet more revelations from the leaked Paradise Papers
0:30:08 > 0:30:11which show the tax arrangements of the rich and powerful -
0:30:11 > 0:30:15this time the spotlight is on Prince Charles.
0:30:15 > 0:30:18Time for the latest news, here's Annita.
0:30:18 > 0:30:19The International Development Secretary, Priti Patel,
0:30:19 > 0:30:22is flying back to Britain from Africa at the request
0:30:22 > 0:30:24of Theresa May amid growing speculation about her future
0:30:24 > 0:30:28in the government.
0:30:28 > 0:30:31She had already been forced to apologise for a series
0:30:31 > 0:30:33of unauthorised meetings while on a family holiday in Israel.
0:30:33 > 0:30:36It has now emerged she had further talks which she failed to disclose
0:30:36 > 0:30:42to the Prime Minister.
0:30:42 > 0:30:45Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing as he continues his tour of Asia.
0:30:45 > 0:30:48The American President took a tour of the Forbidden City
0:30:48 > 0:30:51in the capital, alongside his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.
0:30:51 > 0:30:53Mr Trump is expected to ask China to cut its financial
0:30:53 > 0:30:56links with North Korea.
0:30:56 > 0:30:59Speaking in South Korea earlier, Mr Trump urged all countries to join
0:30:59 > 0:31:02forces to isolate Pyongyang, saying the world could not tolerate
0:31:02 > 0:31:09a rogue nation that threatened nuclear devastation.
0:31:09 > 0:31:13The head of NHS England will warn today that the public wants to see
0:31:13 > 0:31:17promises on NHS funding, made during the EU
0:31:17 > 0:31:19referendum campaign, honoured by the government.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21Simon Stevens will tell a health conference that trust
0:31:21 > 0:31:23in the democratic process will be weakened, if higher
0:31:23 > 0:31:32funding is not delivered.
0:31:32 > 0:31:34The Prince of Wales has been criticised for failing to disclose
0:31:34 > 0:31:38an investment by his private estate in an off-shore company. The
0:31:38 > 0:31:42revelations come in a number of leaked documents known as the
0:31:42 > 0:31:46Paradise Papers. It is the second time this week a member of the Royal
0:31:46 > 0:31:50Family has been named. Sky said it will consider closing
0:31:50 > 0:31:58Sky News if it becomes a stumbling block in its proposed merger with
0:31:58 > 0:32:0921st Century Fox. Thousands of people with the most
0:32:09 > 0:32:15advanced cancers in England are surviving longer after diagnosis.
0:32:15 > 0:32:19Macmillan cancer said it was due to the success of new treatments, but
0:32:19 > 0:32:24it warned that living longer with advanced cancers brings its own
0:32:24 > 0:32:27difficulties. And that's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:32:27 > 0:32:31If you want to find out more about people living with advanced cancer,
0:32:31 > 0:32:36there is more on our website. It is really, really interesting.
0:32:36 > 0:32:46Here's some sport now with Katherine Downes.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55It has been a busy 24 hours for Andy Murray -
0:32:55 > 0:32:57welcoming his second daughter with his wife Kim -
0:32:57 > 0:33:00and making a return to court to play an exhibition match
0:33:00 > 0:33:02against Roger Federer - its the first time he's played
0:33:02 > 0:33:04in public since Wimbledon in July.
0:33:04 > 0:33:06The UK Anti-Doping Agency say they're worried an ongoing case
0:33:06 > 0:33:09against Tyson Fury - he tested positive for a banned
0:33:09 > 0:33:11steroid last June - and UKAD say if he sues them
0:33:11 > 0:33:13for loss of earnings, they will be bankrupt.
0:33:13 > 0:33:15They're believed to have asked the Government
0:33:15 > 0:33:16to underwrite the case.
0:33:16 > 0:33:18England's women are gearing up for their must-win Ashes Test
0:33:18 > 0:33:21which starts tomorrow - while Mark Stoneman and Joe Root
0:33:21 > 0:33:24have both scored half centuries in one of the men's two warm up
0:33:24 > 0:33:26matches before their series starts at the end of the month.
0:33:26 > 0:33:28I will will have more at 10am.
0:33:28 > 0:33:31When many of us think of freemasons we think of secret handshakes
0:33:31 > 0:33:40and rolled-up trouser legs.
0:33:40 > 0:33:43In a UK first this programme has been given access to see exactly
0:33:43 > 0:33:45what goes on behind the scenes in the initiations,
0:33:45 > 0:33:46ceremonies and rituals.
0:33:46 > 0:33:51But not with the male freemasons you might be familiar with,
0:33:51 > 0:33:53we've had exclusive access to two female fraternities.
0:33:53 > 0:33:57Claire Jones has this exclusive report.
0:33:57 > 0:34:03They are one of the most secretive organisations in the world.
0:34:03 > 0:34:12There are certain secrets that you have to earn.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14PIANO MUSIC.
0:34:14 > 0:34:18Famous for unexplained rituals.
0:34:18 > 0:34:20Where were you first prepared to be a Freemason?
0:34:20 > 0:34:21In my heart.
0:34:21 > 0:34:23Describe the mode of your preparation.
0:34:23 > 0:34:26My right arm, left breast...
0:34:26 > 0:34:29There has been this notion that we somehow use
0:34:29 > 0:34:34goats in our rituals, because we are somehow Satanic.
0:34:34 > 0:34:36And they face regular accusations of corruption.
0:34:36 > 0:34:38There are people who are genuinely afraid to declare
0:34:38 > 0:34:42that they are Freemasons.
0:34:42 > 0:34:48There are no more corrupt than anybody else.
0:34:48 > 0:34:50They are no more corrupt than anybody else.
0:34:50 > 0:34:52Whenever anything bad happens, there are a whole horde of people
0:34:52 > 0:34:54who are digging to see whether freemasonry was involved.
0:34:54 > 0:34:56All the men in my family are Freemasons.
0:34:56 > 0:34:58I'm the only girl to go into masonry.
0:34:58 > 0:35:02If a man can go in, so can I.
0:35:02 > 0:35:04For the first time, we've been given access inside this
0:35:04 > 0:35:06highly secretive society, to find out the truth
0:35:06 > 0:35:14behind the intrigue.
0:35:14 > 0:35:17We have nothing to hide that's sinister.
0:35:17 > 0:35:20We aren't trying to take over the world come despite all these
0:35:20 > 0:35:21conspiracy theorists.
0:35:21 > 0:35:28THEY SING.
0:35:30 > 0:35:34The Freemasons are a secretive society that practice
0:35:34 > 0:35:38rituals in a temple and promote brotherly love.
0:35:38 > 0:35:44Although they've always been associated with men,
0:35:44 > 0:35:48we've gained access to the two female Freemason groups in the UK,
0:35:48 > 0:35:50the Order of Women Freemasons and the Honourable Fraternity
0:35:50 > 0:35:52of Ancient Freemasons.
0:35:52 > 0:35:55This looks like any other leafy street in central London,
0:35:55 > 0:35:57but this is the international headquarters of one of the most
0:35:57 > 0:36:00secretive and mysterious organisations in the world.
0:36:00 > 0:36:01For the first time, they are exclusively
0:36:01 > 0:36:07opening their doors to us.
0:36:08 > 0:36:11ORGAN MUSIC.
0:36:11 > 0:36:14This is the Order of Women Freemasons.
0:36:14 > 0:36:18There's a meeting today for the quarterly communication
0:36:18 > 0:36:23of Grand Lodge, where only members of a certain rank can attend.
0:36:23 > 0:36:30The most Worshipable Grandmaster, Christine Chapman.
0:36:30 > 0:36:33This is the second group we have been given access to,
0:36:33 > 0:36:37The Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons.
0:36:37 > 0:36:41Right Worshipful Assistant Grandmaster, whom do you represent?
0:36:41 > 0:36:42Prince of Architects, Most Worshipful Grandmaster.
0:36:42 > 0:36:44And your duty?
0:36:44 > 0:36:46To lay plans, draw designs, and assist the Most Worshipful
0:36:46 > 0:36:53the Grandmaster in the execution of her work.
0:36:53 > 0:36:57Christine Chapman, a former book-keeper, is hoping to be
0:36:57 > 0:36:59re-elected to the top job of Grandmaster for
0:36:59 > 0:37:01another four years.
0:37:01 > 0:37:03The Grandmaster has to lead and guide the fraternity,
0:37:03 > 0:37:08and she has to provide direction.
0:37:08 > 0:37:11She is the person with whom the buck stops if there's any problems.
0:37:11 > 0:37:13She takes ultimate responsibility for everything, and she is
0:37:13 > 0:37:19the head of the fraternity.
0:37:19 > 0:37:24The Female Freemasons were formed in 1908.
0:37:24 > 0:37:28Their male counterparts have been meeting for at least 300 years.
0:37:28 > 0:37:30Their practices involve secret handshakes, rolling
0:37:30 > 0:37:32up their trouser legs, wearing blindfolds, and even
0:37:32 > 0:37:35nooses around their necks.
0:37:35 > 0:37:37They are currently headed up by the Queen's cousin,
0:37:37 > 0:37:39the Duke of Kent.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42But Freemasons have been accused of favouritism,
0:37:42 > 0:37:44helping each other rise up the career ladder and covering up
0:37:44 > 0:37:51each other's mistakes.
0:37:51 > 0:37:52A Home Affairs committee have already called
0:37:52 > 0:37:54for greater openness...
0:37:54 > 0:37:56In 1997, there were calls from former Home Secretary Jack Straw
0:37:56 > 0:37:58for officers and judges to make voluntary disclosures
0:37:58 > 0:38:06about their membership.
0:38:06 > 0:38:08By 2009, he scrapped the role after the Masons threatened to take
0:38:08 > 0:38:09the Government to court.
0:38:09 > 0:38:13There are people who are genuinely afraid to declare
0:38:13 > 0:38:16that they are Freemasons because of the public perception
0:38:16 > 0:38:18that that somehow means they are a corrupt individual
0:38:18 > 0:38:24or they are somebody who is a little bit dodgy
0:38:24 > 0:38:25and that's categorically not the case.
0:38:25 > 0:38:27I would say quite the opposite is true.
0:38:27 > 0:38:31Over the years, sort of there has been a negative reputation that has
0:38:31 > 0:38:35been around Freemasonry, especially around male
0:38:35 > 0:38:37Freemasons around corruption and favours going on,
0:38:37 > 0:38:39you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
0:38:39 > 0:38:40What would you say to that?
0:38:40 > 0:38:42Does that still happen?
0:38:42 > 0:38:44I would say that you are categorically not allowed
0:38:44 > 0:38:46to use your member of Freemasonry for either personal
0:38:46 > 0:38:50or financial advantage.
0:38:50 > 0:38:53It's very much frowned by us, it's something we do not tolerate
0:38:53 > 0:38:58at all within our organisation.
0:38:58 > 0:39:01I've been a Freemason for over 40 years and nobody's ever offered me
0:39:01 > 0:39:04a favour and I've never offered anybody else a favour.
0:39:04 > 0:39:06You hear the stories, certainly.
0:39:06 > 0:39:16I've never come across it in Freemasonry at all.
0:39:16 > 0:39:20We've had the odd person that we've had to ask leave us.
0:39:20 > 0:39:22Since I've been Grand Master, only one person, where their behaviour
0:39:22 > 0:39:24was not suitable for a Freemason.
0:39:24 > 0:39:28So what did they do for their behaviour not to be...
0:39:28 > 0:39:30They were convicted in court of a criminal act.
0:39:30 > 0:39:32Many people associate Freemasonry with mystery.
0:39:32 > 0:39:35Why do you think that is?
0:39:35 > 0:39:38If it were written out and publicised for everybody
0:39:38 > 0:39:40to read, there would be no point in anybody joining it
0:39:40 > 0:39:47because there would be nothing special left for them to discover.
0:39:47 > 0:39:51You say it's to ensure that it feels special
0:39:51 > 0:39:55but people could see that as there being something to hide.
0:39:55 > 0:39:57No, that is the problem.
0:39:57 > 0:39:59But we have nothing to hide that is sinister.
0:39:59 > 0:40:02We are not trying to take over the world, despite all these
0:40:02 > 0:40:03conspiracy theories on the Internet.
0:40:03 > 0:40:05We are not trying to overthrow the Government
0:40:05 > 0:40:08or anything like that.
0:40:08 > 0:40:12Do you think if it comes down to it that it might be better to remove
0:40:12 > 0:40:13that element of surprise?
0:40:13 > 0:40:15No, I don't think so.
0:40:15 > 0:40:25Even if it might mean a bad reputation for Freemasonry.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28We need to preserve an element of secrecy for that reason only
0:40:28 > 0:40:29because that's what's made it special.
0:40:29 > 0:40:31Has Freemasonry helped your career?
0:40:31 > 0:40:33No, I worked in an accounts department with lots
0:40:33 > 0:40:34of bookkeepers and so on.
0:40:34 > 0:40:36So no, no chance.
0:40:36 > 0:40:42The police in particular have been heavily linked to Freemasonry.
0:40:42 > 0:40:44Is there any truth in police officers who are Freemasons helping
0:40:44 > 0:40:47people get away with crimes?
0:40:47 > 0:40:51Not that I've ever seen.
0:40:51 > 0:40:54We don't have many police officers in the order of women Freemasons.
0:40:54 > 0:40:57We do have some, I know, but I've not seen anybody
0:40:57 > 0:41:00being helped in that way, so I can only speak
0:41:00 > 0:41:07from a own experience.
0:41:07 > 0:41:10Have you heard of Freemasons doing favours for others?
0:41:10 > 0:41:12Yes, I have, in the old days.
0:41:12 > 0:41:14Many, many years ago but that was mainly in the men
0:41:14 > 0:41:16and they were rooted out as corrupt.
0:41:16 > 0:41:18What sort of favours would they be?
0:41:18 > 0:41:20Oh, you would get policemen who were Freemasons doing
0:41:20 > 0:41:27favours for other members.
0:41:27 > 0:41:30Because there is obviously this view that if you scratch my back,
0:41:30 > 0:41:31I'll scratch yours.
0:41:31 > 0:41:32No, it's not allowed.
0:41:32 > 0:41:33It really, really isn't.
0:41:33 > 0:41:35It is forbidden in our rituals.
0:41:35 > 0:41:38You mustn't do that.
0:41:38 > 0:41:40Have you ever heard of that happening here?
0:41:40 > 0:41:45Not in women's Freemasonry, no.
0:41:49 > 0:41:55Female Freemasonry began in 1908.
0:41:55 > 0:41:56Possessing and working the same secrets, mysteries
0:41:56 > 0:42:03and degrees and rituals.
0:42:03 > 0:42:08But the society separated, creating the two groups that exist today.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11We broke away from the main group in 1913 because of a difference
0:42:11 > 0:42:14of opinion and we have stayed separate ever since.
0:42:14 > 0:42:17Although we are now on much more friendly terms,
0:42:17 > 0:42:26in the old days they didn't even speak to each other.
0:42:26 > 0:42:29With an ageing membership, the women are turning to universities
0:42:29 > 0:42:30to bring in younger members.
0:42:30 > 0:42:32I can't believe I'm doing this, I can't believe
0:42:32 > 0:42:34the day has finally come.
0:42:34 > 0:42:40It's surreal.
0:42:40 > 0:42:43After joining the Freemasons seven years ago, today optician
0:42:43 > 0:42:46Roshni Patel will have a ceremony to mark her reaching
0:42:46 > 0:42:52the rank of a master mason.
0:42:52 > 0:42:54I actually don't know what happens.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57I don't know what will happen.
0:42:57 > 0:43:03I know the beginning of the ceremony, obviously
0:43:03 > 0:43:06the end of the ceremony, but as to me being put
0:43:06 > 0:43:07in the chair, I don't know.
0:43:07 > 0:43:17That's a secret, that's a mystery.
0:43:19 > 0:43:21Despite opening the doors to allow our cameras, they are not
0:43:21 > 0:43:23letting us film everything.
0:43:23 > 0:43:25The Order of Women Freemasons have not allowed us to film
0:43:25 > 0:43:27inside Roshni's ceremony in the temple.
0:43:27 > 0:43:29This is our grand temple.
0:43:29 > 0:43:34Tonight, where there's obviously a ceremony that's
0:43:34 > 0:43:38going on that we can't get access to, tell us why you would
0:43:38 > 0:43:40want us to see it?
0:43:40 > 0:43:41Because you haven't earned it.
0:43:41 > 0:43:44Roshni has learned pieces of ritual, she has worked hard.
0:43:44 > 0:43:49She must have been working for five or six years to achieve
0:43:49 > 0:43:52the installation into this chair and her reward for that is to be
0:43:52 > 0:43:55given a beautiful ceremony.
0:43:55 > 0:43:58So she will be sitting in this chair down here at the moment before
0:43:58 > 0:44:01she gets to progress up into that chair.
0:44:01 > 0:44:04What does one need to do to prove themselves?
0:44:04 > 0:44:08Each degree is like a little play and it's all learned
0:44:08 > 0:44:12by heart and recited, so you have to learn your part
0:44:12 > 0:44:15in it and do it well, come to every meeting,
0:44:15 > 0:44:22be there and be part of the team and do your part
0:44:22 > 0:44:25and if you are good then you get moved onto the next step up.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28In the lodge that's meeting tonight, they will have a first degree,
0:44:28 > 0:44:31a second degree and a third degree and a ceremony of installation,
0:44:31 > 0:44:40so that's four rituals.
0:44:40 > 0:44:43And then you can go on to other degrees, 33 in all,
0:44:43 > 0:44:45if you keep going to the very top.
0:44:45 > 0:44:47At the Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons,
0:44:47 > 0:44:51DeLaza is about to pass on to another ranking society
0:44:51 > 0:44:53called the second degree.
0:44:53 > 0:44:56I'm feeling very happy, I'm feeling confident.
0:44:56 > 0:44:59I am excited, I am not nervous.
0:44:59 > 0:45:04I am happy.
0:45:04 > 0:45:07You will be hearing the questions and answers shortly.
0:45:07 > 0:45:09Now, that I would say is the most secret thing that
0:45:09 > 0:45:10happens in our fraternity.
0:45:10 > 0:45:12Brethren...
0:45:12 > 0:45:15But we are not allowed to see everything.
0:45:15 > 0:45:23We have got strict instructions on what we can and can't film.
0:45:23 > 0:45:25DeLaza is being asked a series of questions.
0:45:25 > 0:45:31Each answer provides an insight into this secret organisation.
0:45:31 > 0:45:40Where were you first prepared to be a Freemason?
0:45:40 > 0:45:41In my heart.
0:45:41 > 0:45:45And where next?
0:45:45 > 0:45:46A journey in the lodge.
0:45:46 > 0:45:56Describe the method of your preparation.
0:45:58 > 0:46:06Is that what happens in the initiation?
0:46:06 > 0:46:09Yes, it's a symbolic way of getting someone ready for a degree and it
0:46:09 > 0:46:10all has different meanings, what it represents.
0:46:13 > 0:46:19How do you demonstrate proof of your being a Freemason to others?
0:46:19 > 0:46:22By sign, talking.
0:46:22 > 0:46:23What would a sign be?
0:46:23 > 0:46:25I took that to be maybe a handshake?
0:46:25 > 0:46:27No, it's a particular type of sign which demonstrates
0:46:27 > 0:46:29you are one of those degrees which are described.
0:46:29 > 0:46:32And the token is this special handshake which you would give
0:46:32 > 0:46:34to demonstrate that you have reached that degree.
0:46:34 > 0:46:36So do you use secret handshakes?
0:46:36 > 0:46:39Yes, absolutely, of course we do.
0:46:39 > 0:46:40Can you do it now?
0:46:40 > 0:46:42No, it's a secret.
0:46:42 > 0:46:46What happens, and when would you do it?
0:46:46 > 0:46:50You would have to join to find out and then I tell you what about it.
0:46:50 > 0:46:55When would you use it?
0:46:55 > 0:46:57Within the ceremonies there are certain methods, yeah, grips.
0:46:57 > 0:46:59Yes, they are called grips.
0:46:59 > 0:47:02But I wouldn't use it outside a lodge room, never.
0:47:02 > 0:47:03Why not?
0:47:03 > 0:47:04It's just not necessary.
0:47:04 > 0:47:07This shaking hands, it's just nonsense.
0:47:07 > 0:47:11It's silly.
0:47:11 > 0:47:14At the Order of Women's Freemasons, it's a big moment for Roshni as one
0:47:14 > 0:47:15of their youngest members.
0:47:15 > 0:47:17We've had the ceremony, it's almost over, and Roshni
0:47:17 > 0:47:25is about to appear as a master of the lodge.
0:47:35 > 0:47:35Congratulations.
0:47:35 > 0:47:37Thank you, thank you.
0:47:37 > 0:47:38It was a lovely ceremony.
0:47:38 > 0:47:39Well done.
0:47:39 > 0:47:40I don't know how I feel.
0:47:40 > 0:47:42I think I'm in shock.
0:47:42 > 0:47:46I think it's a bit of denial going on.
0:47:46 > 0:47:47Thank you.
0:47:47 > 0:47:50The whole process of me being put into the chair, that was,
0:47:50 > 0:47:52that was very emotional.
0:47:52 > 0:47:54Especially by all my lodge members, who I really
0:47:54 > 0:48:00care about, so, yeah.
0:48:00 > 0:48:01At the Honourable Fraternity of Ancient Freemasons,
0:48:01 > 0:48:04there's a problem with the vote.
0:48:04 > 0:48:10If somebody had decided to photocopy it, then it's void.
0:48:10 > 0:48:13After fears some of the votes had been spoiled, they've now been
0:48:13 > 0:48:19recounted and the new Grand is about be announced.
0:48:19 > 0:48:27Most worshipful Grand Master, I am pleased to announce that Eunace,
0:48:27 > 0:48:32most worshipful Grand Master, has been elected as Grand Master.
0:48:32 > 0:48:34The result was close but I eventually came
0:48:34 > 0:48:37through and I am now going to be the next Grand Master, in other
0:48:37 > 0:48:45words I'm continuing as Grand Master for another four years.
0:48:45 > 0:48:48Although we were given exclusive access, we still only gained
0:48:48 > 0:48:50a glimpse of the workings of this secret society.
0:48:50 > 0:48:52There was a lot that was off-limits to us.
0:48:52 > 0:48:54Both groups of female Freemasons dismissed all allegations
0:48:54 > 0:48:57of corruption but to shake this negative reputation and gain more
0:48:57 > 0:49:07members, they may need to be more transparent in future.
0:49:13 > 0:49:18If you want to read more, go to the website where there is more
0:49:18 > 0:49:22information there. Is it for you? Would you like to join? Let me know.
0:49:22 > 0:49:25Still to come.
0:49:25 > 0:49:27It has been one year since Donald Trump was elected President
0:49:27 > 0:49:28of the United States.
0:49:28 > 0:49:31He's currently in China to discuss North Korea amongst other things.
0:49:31 > 0:49:34Polls suggest he has the lowest approval rating of any
0:49:34 > 0:49:38president in over 70 years, we'll reflect on his year so far.
0:49:38 > 0:49:44We'll be talking to some Trump supporters to see if they are
0:49:44 > 0:49:48pleased with what he's achieved in the last 12 months.
0:49:48 > 0:49:51There are more revelations from the Paradise Papers -
0:49:51 > 0:49:53a huge batch of leaked documents detailing the financial arrangements
0:49:53 > 0:49:54of some of world's richest people.
0:49:54 > 0:49:57BBC Panorama has revealed that Prince Charles campaigned to alter
0:49:57 > 0:49:59climate-change agreements without disclosing that his private
0:49:59 > 0:50:01estate had a financial interest in what he was promoting.
0:50:01 > 0:50:04The papers show that in 2007 the Duchy of Cornwall secretly
0:50:04 > 0:50:06bought shares worth around $113,000 in a Bermuda company that
0:50:06 > 0:50:15would benefit from a rule change.
0:50:15 > 0:50:18The prince's good friend was a director of that company
0:50:18 > 0:50:22Sustainable Forestry Management Limited.
0:50:22 > 0:50:24The Duchy of Cornwall says Prince Charles has no direct
0:50:24 > 0:50:30involvement in its investments.
0:50:30 > 0:50:32Let's talk now to David McClure.
0:50:32 > 0:50:34He wrote a book about royal finances - he's previously reported
0:50:34 > 0:50:36on Prince Charles' political activities and potential
0:50:36 > 0:50:37conflicts of interests.
0:50:37 > 0:50:39Dame Margaret Hodge MP, who last night made a speech
0:50:39 > 0:50:41in Parliament calling for action from the government
0:50:41 > 0:50:49on tax avoidance.
0:50:49 > 0:50:52And Sir Alistair Graham, the former chairman and the committee for
0:50:52 > 0:50:57standards in Public life. That defence from Clarence how's that
0:50:57 > 0:51:01Prince Charles has no direct involvement in investments, do you
0:51:01 > 0:51:07buy it?The governance of the Duchy of Cornwall is that the Prince does
0:51:07 > 0:51:15have hands on involvement in it. But what does that mean? Maybe he didn't
0:51:15 > 0:51:19have direct involvement in the choice of investments, but he set
0:51:19 > 0:51:26the overall pattern. The pattern of the journey, really.Is it
0:51:26 > 0:51:30interesting to you that one of Prince Charles' closest friends who
0:51:30 > 0:51:36runs this company suddenly gets $100,000 investment from the Duchy
0:51:36 > 0:51:41of Cornwall and then sends him papers about carbon trading
0:51:41 > 0:51:49arrangements?Yes, it is interesting in that Prince Charles didn't make
0:51:49 > 0:51:57any public speeches about amending the protocol of another climate
0:51:57 > 0:52:01change agreement until after the investment had been made, prompted
0:52:01 > 0:52:07on the recommendation of his close friend.Does that damage him? Does
0:52:07 > 0:52:15it damage the Queen?It raises a question about the link between
0:52:15 > 0:52:20investment and the activities. My concern is, if a member of the Royal
0:52:20 > 0:52:25family wishes to lobby for change in public policy, then I think they
0:52:25 > 0:52:29should apply the rules that apply to all other public officials, that
0:52:29 > 0:52:33they have to declare any financial interest in the area that they are
0:52:33 > 0:52:38seeking to achieve a change. Margaret Hodge, what do you think?I
0:52:38 > 0:52:41don't think Prince Charles deliberately set out to do anything
0:52:41 > 0:52:46wrong.Is it a coincidence that his close friend gets this investment?
0:52:46 > 0:52:52What we should do to put things right...I will ask you that but do
0:52:52 > 0:52:56you think it is a coincidence or is there something more to it?We don't
0:52:56 > 0:53:00know but if we had greater transparency about the affairs of
0:53:00 > 0:53:04the Duchy of Cornwall, which we ask for when we looked at these affairs
0:53:04 > 0:53:08when I chaired the Public Accounts Committee, so we knew exactly where
0:53:08 > 0:53:12the investments went, if we had clarity but the Prince actually
0:53:12 > 0:53:16didn't get involved, he stayed away from any decision around those
0:53:16 > 0:53:19investments, and if Treasury did the job they are supposed to do which is
0:53:19 > 0:53:25to monitor what happens in the Duchy of Cornwall, to defend the public
0:53:25 > 0:53:28interest, then I don't think we would have this embarrassing
0:53:28 > 0:53:34conversation today on the television, which I think brings
0:53:34 > 0:53:38questions over a valued and highly respected and much loved
0:53:38 > 0:53:43institution.If Margaret gave a speech in Parliament about a certain
0:53:43 > 0:53:46subject in which she shared a financial interest, she would have
0:53:46 > 0:53:51to declare an interest. When Prince Charles makes a variety of speech is
0:53:51 > 0:53:56an ecological issues while at the same time he has had a shareholding
0:53:56 > 0:54:00in companies, we know nothing about it. Maybe it is totally innocuous
0:54:00 > 0:54:05what has happened but it would be far better if he registered all his
0:54:05 > 0:54:10interests. What is he hiding?Either there is a conflict of interest or
0:54:10 > 0:54:13he was careless?He shouldn't really get involved in decisions around
0:54:13 > 0:54:21where his investments are. Both in relation to this and in relation to
0:54:21 > 0:54:26the story about the Queen, I think the fact advisers felt they could
0:54:26 > 0:54:33invest money in offshore tax havens where there are questions about why
0:54:33 > 0:54:38are you hiding your money and are you avoiding tax, and perhaps also
0:54:38 > 0:54:43in questionable companies, demonstrates the extent to which the
0:54:43 > 0:54:49whole way in which very rich people, very big corporations, very powerful
0:54:49 > 0:54:53institutions, feel that they can use tax havens and that there should be
0:54:53 > 0:54:58no question about it. That's really scary. It's really ingrained in the
0:54:58 > 0:55:02establishment of our society.You said that last night to Parliament.
0:55:02 > 0:55:06He said it's the establishment norm now for the rich and powerful. I
0:55:06 > 0:55:11have to ask you, is that not what your family did in the tax haven of
0:55:11 > 0:55:19dine?Quite rightly you ask me the question but that was my father. It
0:55:19 > 0:55:25was when he came out of Germany and escaped... Well, he was a German
0:55:25 > 0:55:29refugee. I think it was wrong and the moment we discovered it, we
0:55:29 > 0:55:36stopped it. But that... I can't be held responsible for my father 's
0:55:36 > 0:55:41actions which I would not have done. That is absolutely fair but you want
0:55:41 > 0:55:45transparency. When you've benefited from the foundation based in that
0:55:45 > 0:55:49tax haven, should you not have been transparent and told people about
0:55:49 > 0:55:55how much was there?The moment we uncovered it we closed it down...
0:55:55 > 0:56:00When you are challenged you were transparent.I was, yes.But you
0:56:00 > 0:56:04hadn't been before that.I've always been completely transparent about
0:56:04 > 0:56:10all my affairs.You want a public register of beneficial ownership.
0:56:10 > 0:56:15What with that achieve? Explain why that would deter tax evasion, tax
0:56:15 > 0:56:19avoidance etc.It's not a silver bullet but it's one of a number of
0:56:19 > 0:56:23actions I think we could take immediately, which would deal with a
0:56:23 > 0:56:27lot of the way in which people hide their world, avoid tax and do worse
0:56:27 > 0:56:33things than that. Launder money, engage in crime and in bribery and
0:56:33 > 0:56:39things like that. At the moment, a lot of British Overseas Territories
0:56:39 > 0:56:45and Crown dependencies, many of them are tax havens. If we could open up
0:56:45 > 0:56:48and have public registers of who owns what where, you would
0:56:48 > 0:56:55immediately at a stroke stop a lot of the attempts that people have
0:56:55 > 0:56:58tied their money and to avoid tax. I would do that together with other
0:56:58 > 0:57:08actions. I would toughen up our regulatory authorities, so they
0:57:08 > 0:57:19really go after people. Opening all of this up to public account, that
0:57:19 > 0:57:23immediately stops bad behaviour, it stops people doing things wrong.
0:57:23 > 0:57:27Another thing, there are many more eyes looking at what's happening. At
0:57:27 > 0:57:32the moment, where there are secret registers of ownership, its only if
0:57:32 > 0:57:37you are alerted to something that you might start investigating it. We
0:57:37 > 0:57:41have such poor resource think of institutions like HMRC that very
0:57:41 > 0:57:48often people get away with it.Do you think that opening up would make
0:57:48 > 0:57:53a difference, would change people's behaviour? A lot of what we've seen
0:57:53 > 0:58:00is not legal after all.Know but I think increased transparency would
0:58:00 > 0:58:04be a significant step forward. I agree with the general approach of
0:58:04 > 0:58:11Margaret Hodge on this matter. But I'll sit think individuals have to
0:58:11 > 0:58:16take responsibility for their own standards in these matters. I still
0:58:16 > 0:58:21think we expect members of the Royal family to have the highest possible
0:58:21 > 0:58:26standards, and I'm sure on most occasions they do. It's unfortunate
0:58:26 > 0:58:30that on this particular occasion when there was a change of public
0:58:30 > 0:58:37policy being sought, which would have benefited this particular
0:58:37 > 0:58:47investment offshore, then we should expect any member of the Royal
0:58:47 > 0:58:50family to declare their interest. And if they don't know about their
0:58:50 > 0:58:54interests, that they checked before they made public statements.When it
0:58:54 > 0:58:59comes to Caribbean tax havens, maybe some light is the best disinfectant.
0:58:59 > 0:59:02Thank you. -- sunlight.
0:59:02 > 0:59:04Let's get the latest weather update.
0:59:04 > 0:59:05Let's get the latest weather update.
0:59:05 > 0:59:12Good morning. It's been a cold start to the day. It is still cold, we've
0:59:12 > 0:59:15got freezing fog around Manchester Airport for example. That is
0:59:15 > 0:59:19dragging its heels in terms of clearance and we've got thicker
0:59:19 > 0:59:22cloud and patchy rain across East Anglia and the south-east. That will
0:59:22 > 0:59:27be eroded from the West during the day. Many of us having a dry day
0:59:27 > 0:59:31with sunny spells. Wet and windy conditions coming in across the
0:59:31 > 0:59:34north-west. The strongest winds across the far north of Scotland and
0:59:34 > 0:59:38the Northern Isles. Through the evening and overnight, the band of
0:59:38 > 0:59:45rain pushing south, turning lighter in nature as it does so. We'll see
0:59:45 > 0:59:48some frost in the Glens of Scotland and it will be called to start the
0:59:48 > 0:59:52day tomorrow in the far south-east. Then the weather front trundles
0:59:52 > 0:59:56down, clearing the south-east, leaving some residual cloud in its
0:59:56 > 1:00:01wake. It will brighten up behind it from the North with a fair bit of
1:00:01 > 1:00:04sunshine. Showers across northern Scotland and highs above average for
1:00:04 > 1:00:15the time of year.
1:00:18 > 1:00:20Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
1:00:20 > 1:00:22Can the International Development Sec hang onto her job?
1:00:22 > 1:00:25She's currently flying back from a trip to Africa to face
1:00:25 > 1:00:27the music after the BBC revealed Priti Patel didn't tell
1:00:27 > 1:00:30the Prime Minister Theresa May about all the secret meetings she'd
1:00:30 > 1:00:31had with Israeli politicians.
1:00:31 > 1:00:37Some are calling for her to step down.
1:00:37 > 1:00:40It is extraordinary and the Prime Minister found out about it by
1:00:40 > 1:00:44listening to the radio. It is disturbing to the Middle East Peace
1:00:44 > 1:00:47Process to think that the British Government might do that. She has to
1:00:47 > 1:00:51go.
1:00:51 > 1:00:55There are now more than 260,000 people who are officially
1:00:55 > 1:00:58homeless in England - that includes anyone on the streets
1:00:58 > 1:01:04or in temporary accommodation.
1:01:04 > 1:01:12If that's you, get in touch. And let me know what led to your
1:01:12 > 1:01:18homelessness and what help you are getting to get somewhere permanent.
1:01:18 > 1:01:20The secret ceremonies and rituals of female Freemasons.
1:01:20 > 1:01:23In a UK first, we get access to their secret societies.
1:01:23 > 1:01:24Do you use secret handshakes?
1:01:24 > 1:01:25Yes, absolutely. Of course we do!
1:01:25 > 1:01:27Can you do it with me now?
1:01:27 > 1:01:28No, it's a secret.
1:01:28 > 1:01:29LAUGHS.
1:01:29 > 1:01:31What happens, and when would you do it?
1:01:31 > 1:01:39It's a secret!
1:01:39 > 1:01:44You'll have to join to find out!
1:01:51 > 1:01:59We'll speak to three female Freemasons live.
1:01:59 > 1:02:01Good morning.
1:02:01 > 1:02:03Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.
1:02:03 > 1:02:05The International Development Secretary, Priti Patel,
1:02:05 > 1:02:07is flying back to Britain from Africa at the request
1:02:07 > 1:02:09of Theresa May amid growing speculation about her future
1:02:09 > 1:02:10in the government.
1:02:10 > 1:02:12The International Development Secretary, Priti Patel,
1:02:12 > 1:02:14She had already been forced to apologise for a series
1:02:14 > 1:02:17of unauthorised meetings while on a family holiday in Israel.
1:02:17 > 1:02:20It's now emerged she had further talks which she failed to disclose
1:02:20 > 1:02:23to the Prime Minister.
1:02:23 > 1:02:26Crispin Blunt said she should have been more cautious when dealing with
1:02:26 > 1:02:33Middle East policy.She has not demonstrated that she has got a grip
1:02:33 > 1:02:38on the conflict. When you get into things like this where things are
1:02:38 > 1:02:42delicate between the competing parties you have to be careful.
1:02:42 > 1:02:45Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing, as he continues his tour of Asia.
1:02:45 > 1:02:47The American President took a tour of the Forbidden City
1:02:47 > 1:02:50in the capital, alongside his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.
1:02:50 > 1:02:52Mr Trump is expected to ask China to cut its financial
1:02:52 > 1:02:54links with North Korea.
1:02:54 > 1:02:57Speaking in South Korea earlier, Mr Trump urged all countries to join
1:02:57 > 1:03:00forces to isolate Pyongyang, saying the world could not tolerate
1:03:00 > 1:03:08a rogue nation that threatened nuclear devastation.
1:03:08 > 1:03:11The head of NHS England will warn today that the public wants to see
1:03:11 > 1:03:15promises on NHS funding, made during the EU
1:03:15 > 1:03:17referendum campaign, honoured by the Government.
1:03:17 > 1:03:19Simon Stevens will tell a health conference that trust
1:03:19 > 1:03:21in the democratic process will be weakened, if higher
1:03:21 > 1:03:24funding is not delivered.
1:03:24 > 1:03:28The Prince of Wales has been criticised for failing to disclose
1:03:28 > 1:03:30an investment by his private estate in an offshore company.
1:03:30 > 1:03:33The revelations come from a number of leaked documents about tax havens
1:03:33 > 1:03:34known as the Paradise Papers.
1:03:34 > 1:03:36It's the second time this week that a member
1:03:36 > 1:03:45of the Royal Family has been named.
1:03:45 > 1:03:51At least nine school children have been killed and more than twenty
1:03:51 > 1:03:53others injured in an explosion at a primary school
1:03:53 > 1:03:54in north-west Tanzania.
1:03:54 > 1:03:57Initial reports say the primary school pupils died when an object
1:03:57 > 1:03:59they were playing with exploded.
1:03:59 > 1:04:01Thousands of people with the most advanced cancers in England are now
1:04:01 > 1:04:03surviving for several years after diagnosis,
1:04:03 > 1:04:04according to research.
1:04:04 > 1:04:06MacMillan Cancer Support said this was due to the success
1:04:06 > 1:04:09of new treatments but it warned living longer with advanced cancer
1:04:09 > 1:04:19brings its own difficulties.
1:04:19 > 1:04:24That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.
1:04:24 > 1:04:28Thank you very much. A couple of comments on Freemasons and some on
1:04:28 > 1:04:31Priti Patel, the International Development Secretary. Rob says,
1:04:31 > 1:04:35"When I first started, when I started my first job my boss told me
1:04:35 > 1:04:39to join the Freemasons, but I never did. Since then I have witnessed
1:04:39 > 1:04:43many promotion and it is because of membership of the Freemasons and
1:04:43 > 1:04:51that is fact." Another viewer says, "I know a guy caught drink-driving
1:04:51 > 1:04:59three times, it is a Freemason. As is the judge." The International
1:04:59 > 1:05:02Development Secretary cannot be trusted. It is disgusting she met
1:05:02 > 1:05:06with the Israeli Prime Minister and did not tell Theresa May. How do we
1:05:06 > 1:05:11know what else she has done? Sack her." Another viewer says, "Priti
1:05:11 > 1:05:18Patel can't be a team player so she should be booted out of office. I
1:05:18 > 1:05:22wouldn't want her watching my back." Thank you for those.
1:05:22 > 1:05:28We will be talking to the vice president of actors union Equity. It
1:05:28 > 1:05:34is the first time they have done an interview about the sex scandals.
1:05:34 > 1:05:37Here's some sport now with Katherine Downes.
1:05:37 > 1:05:41It has been a big week or so for Andy Murray,
1:05:41 > 1:05:44welcoming a second daughter with his wife Kim,
1:05:44 > 1:05:46but it unclear when she was born.
1:05:46 > 1:05:49And before that, making his return to the court for the first
1:05:49 > 1:05:50time since Wimbledon.
1:05:50 > 1:05:52It wasn't exactly a serious competition though.
1:05:52 > 1:05:54He was playing an exhibition match against Roger Federer
1:05:54 > 1:05:56in Glasgow last night.
1:05:56 > 1:05:59Federer even wore a kilt for part of it.
1:05:59 > 1:06:02He won the deciding tie break 10-6.
1:06:02 > 1:06:05Murray is hoping to back to full fitness for the Australian Open
1:06:05 > 1:06:12at the start of next year.
1:06:12 > 1:06:16I am in a significantly better place than I was in the build up to the US
1:06:16 > 1:06:22Open. At the end of Wimbledon I was really struggling. Walking was a big
1:06:22 > 1:06:29problem for me. So, I am trying to get myself back to 100%.
1:06:29 > 1:06:33The UK Anti-Doping Agency say they're worried about an ongoing
1:06:33 > 1:06:40case against former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury.
1:06:40 > 1:06:42He tested positive for a banned steroid last June
1:06:42 > 1:06:45and UKAD say if wins his case, and sues them for loss of earnings,
1:06:45 > 1:06:47they will be bankrupt.
1:06:47 > 1:06:48They're believed to have asked the Government
1:06:48 > 1:06:49to underwrite the case.
1:06:49 > 1:06:52Fury is hoping to be back in the ring next year
1:06:52 > 1:06:54where he'll be set to rejoin an exciting heavyweight division.
1:06:54 > 1:06:57Anthony Joshua is the man they all want to fight,
1:06:57 > 1:06:58including American Wilder.
1:06:58 > 1:07:01He holds the WBC heavyweight world title, and told BBC 5 Live earlier,
1:07:01 > 1:07:05he is desperate to face Joshua.
1:07:05 > 1:07:12I want Anthony Joshua. I want him ASAP. Not only will it be the
1:07:12 > 1:07:15biggest fight in boxing history. I will travel anywhere in the world to
1:07:15 > 1:07:20fight. The UK is only the size of Texas in my country. My country is a
1:07:20 > 1:07:24huge country. The megaof boxing and the money will always and forever be
1:07:24 > 1:07:27in America.
1:07:27 > 1:07:30England winger Jermaine McGillvary has been cleared of biting Lebanon
1:07:30 > 1:07:31captain Robbie Farah during Saturday's World Cup
1:07:31 > 1:07:34group game in Sydney.
1:07:34 > 1:07:37The Huddersfield player was facing a ban of up to 12 weeks had
1:07:37 > 1:07:39he been found guilty, but his exoneration means he will be
1:07:39 > 1:07:42free to play in England's final group match against France
1:07:42 > 1:07:44in Perth on Sunday.
1:07:44 > 1:07:46England's women are completing their final day of preparation
1:07:46 > 1:07:51before their must-win Ashes Test in Sydney.
1:07:51 > 1:07:57They're currently 4-2 down against Australia.
1:07:57 > 1:07:59If they lose the test, which starts tomorrow,
1:07:59 > 1:08:03England cannot win the series.
1:08:03 > 1:08:07They have got the Ashes. We want the Ashes. It is a very different group
1:08:07 > 1:08:11now. The squad that's out here, the side that will play will be very
1:08:11 > 1:08:17different to the side that played then. So yeah, although there is
1:08:17 > 1:08:20some scars, there is a lot of fresh faces which balances it out in the
1:08:20 > 1:08:24group.
1:08:24 > 1:08:25Meanwhile England's men have been
1:08:25 > 1:08:27playing one of their two warm-up games before their
1:08:27 > 1:08:28Ashes Series starts.
1:08:28 > 1:08:31Mark Stoneman and Joe Root have both scored half centuries
1:08:31 > 1:08:34against a Cricket Australia Eleven.
1:08:34 > 1:08:37England are currently 253-5.
1:08:37 > 1:08:40Thank you very much.
1:08:40 > 1:08:43"Do not underestimate us and do not try us",
1:08:43 > 1:08:46the words of Donald Trump, as he used some of his toughest
1:08:46 > 1:08:48language yet against North Korea in a wide-ranging speech in Seoul.
1:08:48 > 1:08:51The US President is now visiting the Forbidden City in Beijing
1:08:51 > 1:08:54where he is expected to put pressure on the regime to cut their financial
1:08:54 > 1:08:55ties to North Korea.
1:08:55 > 1:09:03Today marks one year since his shock election in the United States.
1:09:03 > 1:09:10It was a shock to some, not others.
1:09:10 > 1:09:13Almost nobody predicted that he'd see his way to the Oval Office
1:09:13 > 1:09:15by firstly defeating a cluster of republican rivals
1:09:15 > 1:09:18and then Hillary Clinton.
1:09:18 > 1:09:27I have just received a call from secretary Clinton.
1:09:27 > 1:09:29APPLAUSE She congratulated us, it is about
1:09:29 > 1:09:34us, on our victory and I congratulated her and her family on
1:09:34 > 1:09:40a very, very hard fought campaign. We will embark upon a project of
1:09:40 > 1:09:44national growth and we knewal. I will harness the creative talents of
1:09:44 > 1:09:49our people and we will call upon the best and brightest to leverage their
1:09:49 > 1:09:57tremendous talent for the benefit of all. It's going to happen. We have a
1:09:57 > 1:10:02great economic plan. We will double our growth and have the strongest
1:10:02 > 1:10:08economy anywhere in the world. At the same time, get along with all
1:10:08 > 1:10:13other nations, willing to get along with us. We will be. We'll have
1:10:13 > 1:10:17great relationships. We expect to have great, great relationships.
1:10:17 > 1:10:20Since then it's been a rocky ride for the president,
1:10:20 > 1:10:22but despite several controversies, mostly resulting from commentary
1:10:22 > 1:10:26issued under the twitter handle @realdonaldtrump,
1:10:26 > 1:10:29and historically low approval ratings, the Republican base remains
1:10:29 > 1:10:34fairly steadfast in support for him.
1:10:34 > 1:10:44We can speak to the veteran New York Times journalist
1:10:55 > 1:10:58Steven Erlanger and Republican commentator Anneke Green.
1:10:58 > 1:11:04How do you assess his first year? One of my family members make the
1:11:04 > 1:11:10joke that he is his favourite Republican Democrat. There is a lot
1:11:10 > 1:11:16to assess. He has certainly encouraged rather than tried to
1:11:16 > 1:11:22overcome infighting in Congress and many of his key campaign promise
1:11:22 > 1:11:25like repealing Obamacare, famously having come to pass despite three
1:11:25 > 1:11:31runs at it, but so I think in some senses he is really having to
1:11:31 > 1:11:34stretch in terms of looking for accomplishments, but the year isn't
1:11:34 > 1:11:38over yet in terms of him being in office. It has only been ten months.
1:11:38 > 1:11:46Has he had any major legislative accomplishments?Well, the
1:11:46 > 1:11:51accomplishment that had to go through Congress is a major
1:11:51 > 1:11:56accomplishment in terms of really how it came to pass.Just explain to
1:11:56 > 1:11:59our British audience the significance of that?The Supreme
1:11:59 > 1:12:03Court is our third branch of government. There are nine justices.
1:12:03 > 1:12:13One of them passed away while Obama was in office and he nominated a
1:12:13 > 1:12:16replacement but the Republican controlled Congress put off having
1:12:16 > 1:12:19hearings. So close to a new presidential election which at this
1:12:19 > 1:12:22point in time the majority of people thought Hillary Clinton would be the
1:12:22 > 1:12:30nominee. They held off and that meant that Donald Trump was able to
1:12:30 > 1:12:33nominate the replacement justice because of the Congress.Let me
1:12:33 > 1:12:37fwling Stephen. Has the New York Times been as unfair to Donald Trump
1:12:37 > 1:12:42as he claims?Donald Trump has a very intimate, perhaps near rottic
1:12:42 > 1:12:48relationship with us. We are the paper he grew up with. He grew up in
1:12:48 > 1:12:51Queen's, he represents the Manhattan he always aspired to. He wants our
1:12:51 > 1:12:59love. Have we been unfair to him? I don't think, but we make mistakes.
1:12:59 > 1:13:03We probably had too much confidence in the polls that indicated that
1:13:03 > 1:13:07Trump was going to lose to Hillary Clinton. I think there was
1:13:07 > 1:13:10confirmation bias there. But of course, Trump thought he was going
1:13:10 > 1:13:14to lose. Vladimir Putin thought he was going to lose and Hillary
1:13:14 > 1:13:18Clinton thought that she was going win. So this is part of the first
1:13:18 > 1:13:25year. He is learning. It is not a job, he really, expected to have.In
1:13:25 > 1:13:30terms of what he says and then what he does, is there a gap there?Well,
1:13:30 > 1:13:34there is. I mean some people would like to say there is, you know,
1:13:34 > 1:13:39there is more bark than bite. When you look at what he has actually
1:13:39 > 1:13:44done, it hasn't been so terrible. You could even argue that he has put
1:13:44 > 1:13:47insufficient pressure on the Chinese to actually squeeze North Korea
1:13:47 > 1:13:53which is not a bad thing. We will see happens. He gave a good speech
1:13:53 > 1:13:58this morning in South Korea. He has failed as your guest said on health
1:13:58 > 1:14:02care. He has been at war with his own party in Congress which doesn't
1:14:02 > 1:14:11help. He lives on partisanship, not on compromise. I mean he was elected
1:14:11 > 1:14:15by fuelling anger of people and he keeps trying to do that, but some of
1:14:15 > 1:14:20that, to me is fake. He kind of uses us, the mainstream media, other
1:14:20 > 1:14:25people, as props in his play. And the play is designed for his base.
1:14:25 > 1:14:29At heart, it's hard to know him. I knew him 30 years ago, but you
1:14:29 > 1:14:36know...Knew him, knew him?Knew him. I met him in New York and he
1:14:36 > 1:14:43was more of a Democrat. I mean he was not anti-abortion then and he
1:14:43 > 1:14:47was just interested in being well-known and loved in Manhattan.
1:14:47 > 1:14:53So, there is some part of him that's very hard to read, but has he, you
1:14:53 > 1:14:57know, blown up Nato? No. He doesn't like the European Union. He thinks
1:14:57 > 1:15:00the Europeans are mad, but generally, has decided if they like
1:15:00 > 1:15:05it, that's fine with them. He encourages Brexit. He saw that as
1:15:05 > 1:15:10the harbinger of his own victory, but will Britain get a great trade
1:15:10 > 1:15:16deal out of Donald Trump? He is a hard bargainer?Well, the mood music
1:15:16 > 1:15:19is good.The mood music is great. Let's see when we get to the
1:15:19 > 1:15:23negotiation.What do you want to see more from as a Republican, from
1:15:23 > 1:15:29Donald Trump and what do you want to see less of?I want to see less,
1:15:29 > 1:15:32what I would call stupid fights. I think the reason he became
1:15:32 > 1:15:36president, the reason he became the party nominee is I think Americans
1:15:36 > 1:15:39on really both sides of the political aisle are tired of
1:15:39 > 1:15:45politician, they are tired of the same old thing. We saw the rise of
1:15:45 > 1:15:48Bernie Sanders related to that. They wanted a fighter and Donald Trump
1:15:48 > 1:15:54was that fighter to the point of insulting people on stage which was
1:15:54 > 1:15:59different, but he became president. What I want to see more of is him
1:15:59 > 1:16:04knowing when to walk away from a fight. Pushing back against, if a
1:16:04 > 1:16:08mother of a soldier, who has passed away, says I didn't like that phone
1:16:08 > 1:16:13call, he just needs to leave it alone. But that has been his brand.
1:16:13 > 1:16:17It has worked for him so far and I don't anticipate he will change
1:16:17 > 1:16:21that.What do you want to see more of?Some of the great
1:16:21 > 1:16:25accomplishments that are happening on the executive side, that the
1:16:25 > 1:16:28Conservatives have been looking for. Out of the Environmental Protection
1:16:28 > 1:16:33Agency, a practise known here as sue and settle where it was
1:16:33 > 1:16:38incentivising activists to sue and then have their legal costs paid for
1:16:38 > 1:16:45over nonsense lawsuits and be reimbursed. It was taxpayer dollars
1:16:45 > 1:16:49being wasted and that's been stopped and I want more things like that.
1:16:49 > 1:16:52And yourself, Stephen, what do you quantity to see more of, what do you
1:16:52 > 1:16:58want to see less of?
1:16:58 > 1:17:02We could use a simplified tax system. People like me who are
1:17:02 > 1:17:07American but live and work abroad, it would be nice if we didn't have
1:17:07 > 1:17:10to pay quite so many taxes to a country we don't live in.
1:17:10 > 1:17:12to pay quite so many taxes to a country we don't live in. He's the
1:17:12 > 1:17:16most pro-business president since Eisenhower. Look at the stock
1:17:16 > 1:17:19market, things are going well. I would like him to calm down and
1:17:19 > 1:17:25trade. He's been obsessed with trade for 30-40 years. He thinks everyone
1:17:25 > 1:17:30is screwing the United States and every trade deal is unfair. He's
1:17:30 > 1:17:34already destroyed TTP with Asia which I think is a big mistake and
1:17:34 > 1:17:39helps China. He's fiddling with Nafta. Maybe he can get a better
1:17:39 > 1:17:43deal but the Canadians and Mexicans aren't happy. And jobs are at stake
1:17:43 > 1:17:48there. He's done a lot and regulation which doesn't need
1:17:48 > 1:17:52Congressional permission like the EPA. Some of that will please
1:17:52 > 1:17:56Republicans, some of it will make Democrats unhappy, but this is
1:17:56 > 1:18:00within his realm. I would like him to learn better about how to be
1:18:00 > 1:18:06president, and as your guest said, stop having stupid fights.Thank you
1:18:06 > 1:18:07very much.
1:18:07 > 1:18:08Still to come:
1:18:08 > 1:18:12The number of homeless people in England has gone up in the last
1:18:12 > 1:18:14year to more than 260,000 with 13,000 more people entering
1:18:14 > 1:18:16this uncertain world in the last year alone.
1:18:16 > 1:18:24We'll be talking to people going through it.
1:18:24 > 1:18:27When you think of Freemasons you might think of secret handshakes
1:18:27 > 1:18:29or rolled-up trouser legs, or you may be familiar
1:18:29 > 1:18:31with the accusations of corruption.
1:18:31 > 1:18:33But with membership on the decline Freemasons heading to universities
1:18:33 > 1:18:37to seek out new members.
1:18:37 > 1:18:40In a UK first, this programme been given access to two female Masonic
1:18:40 > 1:18:42lodges to witness initiations, secret ceremonies and never
1:18:42 > 1:18:48before filmed rituals.
1:18:48 > 1:18:50We'll speak to some other Freemasons in a moment
1:18:50 > 1:18:57but first here's an extract from Claire Jones exclusive report.
1:18:57 > 1:19:00This looks like any other leafy street in central London,
1:19:00 > 1:19:03but this is the international headquarters of one of the most
1:19:03 > 1:19:09secretive and mysterious organisations in the world.
1:19:09 > 1:19:10For the first time, they are exclusively
1:19:10 > 1:19:12opening their doors to us.
1:19:12 > 1:19:19ORGAN MUSIC.
1:19:19 > 1:19:21The Freemasons are a secretive society that practice
1:19:21 > 1:19:22rituals in a temple and promote brotherly love.
1:19:22 > 1:19:24Although they've always been associated with men,
1:19:24 > 1:19:28we've gained access to the two female Freemason groups in the UK,
1:19:28 > 1:19:31the Order of Women Freemasons and the Honourable Fraternity
1:19:31 > 1:19:38of Ancient Freemasons.
1:19:38 > 1:19:41Dialazaza Nkela is about to pass on to another rank in the society
1:19:41 > 1:19:43called the Second Degree.
1:19:43 > 1:19:44I'm feeling very happy.
1:19:44 > 1:19:45I feel confident.
1:19:45 > 1:19:47I am excited.
1:19:47 > 1:19:51I'm not nervous, I'm happy.
1:19:51 > 1:19:53Where were you first prepared to be a Freemason?
1:19:53 > 1:19:55In my heart.
1:19:55 > 1:19:56And where next?
1:19:56 > 1:19:59In a convenient room adjourning the Lodge.
1:19:59 > 1:20:01Describe the mode of your preparation.
1:20:01 > 1:20:05I have divested of all monies and all valuables.
1:20:05 > 1:20:12My right arm, left breast and knee made bare.
1:20:12 > 1:20:18My right heel slipshod, and a cable tow running noose upon my neck.
1:20:18 > 1:20:20In the past Freemasons have been accused of favouritism,
1:20:20 > 1:20:26helping members rise up the career ladder and covering up mistakes.
1:20:26 > 1:20:28Have you heard of Freemasons doing favours for each other?
1:20:28 > 1:20:30Yes, I have, in the old days.
1:20:30 > 1:20:32Many, many, many years ago.
1:20:32 > 1:20:37But that was mainly in the men and they were rooted out as corrupt.
1:20:37 > 1:20:39What sort of favours would they be?
1:20:39 > 1:20:41Oh, you would get policemen who were Freemasons doing
1:20:41 > 1:20:48favours for other members.
1:20:48 > 1:20:51Because there is obviously this view that if you scratch my back,
1:20:51 > 1:20:52I'll scratch yours.
1:20:52 > 1:20:53No, it's not allowed.
1:20:53 > 1:20:54It really isn't.
1:20:54 > 1:21:01It's really, really forbidden.
1:21:01 > 1:21:04With an ageing membership, the societies are keen to bring
1:21:04 > 1:21:06in younger women to secure the future of Freemasonry.
1:21:06 > 1:21:08I can't believe I'm doing this, I can't believe
1:21:08 > 1:21:09the day has finally come.
1:21:09 > 1:21:11It's surreal.
1:21:11 > 1:21:15After joining the Freemasons seven years ago, today optician
1:21:15 > 1:21:17Roshni Patel will have a ceremony to mark her reaching
1:21:17 > 1:21:20the rank of a master mason.
1:21:20 > 1:21:24This is our grand temple.
1:21:24 > 1:21:26Tonight, where there's obviously a ceremony that's
1:21:26 > 1:21:29going on but we can't get access to, tell us why you wouldn't
1:21:29 > 1:21:30want us to see it.
1:21:30 > 1:21:32Because you haven't earned it.
1:21:32 > 1:21:34Roshni has gone through all these offices, all the way
1:21:34 > 1:21:35through the chair.
1:21:35 > 1:21:38She's learned pieces of ritual, she has worked hard.
1:21:38 > 1:21:41She must have been working for five or six years to achieve
1:21:41 > 1:21:46the installation into this chair.
1:21:46 > 1:21:50We've heard the ceremony is almost over, and Roshni is about to appear
1:21:50 > 1:21:51as a master of the lodge.
1:21:51 > 1:21:52Congratulations.
1:21:52 > 1:21:54Thank you, thank you.
1:21:54 > 1:21:56I don't know how I feel.
1:21:56 > 1:21:57I think I'm in shock.
1:21:57 > 1:22:00The whole process of me being put into the chair, that was,
1:22:00 > 1:22:05that was very emotional.
1:22:05 > 1:22:10Especially by all my lodge members who I really care about, so, yeah.
1:22:10 > 1:22:12Although we were given exclusive access, we still only gained
1:22:12 > 1:22:15a glimpse of the workings of this secret society.
1:22:15 > 1:22:18There was a lot that was off-limits to us.
1:22:18 > 1:22:21Both groups of female Freemasons dismissed all allegations
1:22:21 > 1:22:24of corruption but to shake this negative reputation and gain more
1:22:24 > 1:22:34members, they may need to be more transparent in future.
1:22:34 > 1:22:40Let's talk now to three other Freemasons from across Europe.
1:22:40 > 1:22:42Christine Chapman is a Grand Master, who you may have
1:22:42 > 1:22:43seen in Claire's film.
1:22:43 > 1:22:45Cecile Revauger is a professor at the University of Bordeaux,
1:22:45 > 1:22:50and has written extensively on female masonry.
1:22:50 > 1:22:52Dr Andreas Onnefors is an expert in global Freemasonry
1:22:52 > 1:23:01and is currently writing a book about it.
1:23:01 > 1:23:05He joined the Freemasons aged 25. Thank you for coming on the
1:23:05 > 1:23:13programme. Christine, so interesting to see the film about you. However
1:23:13 > 1:23:20fascinated I am, I am left wanting to ask you what is the point?Well,
1:23:20 > 1:23:26it is a point which if you join it you would understand it. But a lot
1:23:26 > 1:23:30of people do their research on the internet and they actually want to
1:23:30 > 1:23:36join us. We aim to make women better people, with teaching of morals and
1:23:36 > 1:23:43precepts. It is also a mutual self development programme. It encourages
1:23:43 > 1:23:51women to grow.You aim to make women better people. Tell me some of the
1:23:51 > 1:23:56things you might say to new members. If I was to join what would you say
1:23:56 > 1:24:00to meet in Courage me to become a better person?I would say to you to
1:24:00 > 1:24:05study the ritual and absorb the teachings it is trying to put across
1:24:05 > 1:24:09to you, and to put them into practice in your everyday life.Can
1:24:09 > 1:24:17you give me an example of a teaching?You should always be
1:24:17 > 1:24:23looking out each other, and you help people to become better people by
1:24:23 > 1:24:28growing in confidence and self belief, and to always believe that
1:24:28 > 1:24:31although we wear different distinctions of regalia, we are all
1:24:31 > 1:24:37equal, and that he who is on the lovers spoke fortunes wheel is
1:24:37 > 1:24:43equally entitled to our regard. -- the lowest spoke of Fortune's
1:24:43 > 1:24:50wheeled.Thank you for talking to us. Why are you a Freemason?I've
1:24:50 > 1:24:55been a Freemason for about 30 years. As you've just said I'm also an
1:24:55 > 1:25:03academic. I'm studying freemasonry. In fact I joined for social,
1:25:03 > 1:25:09philosophical reasons, because freemasonry in France is quite
1:25:09 > 1:25:17different from freemasonry in Britain and the states. As you know,
1:25:17 > 1:25:29or maybe as people don't know, in 1877 in France they decided to
1:25:29 > 1:25:35impose full liberty of conscience. And no longer to demand that their
1:25:35 > 1:25:42members should believe in God. Ever since there's been a rift between
1:25:42 > 1:25:50French freemasonry and British and American Freemasons.For our
1:25:50 > 1:25:54audience, my understanding is that in France the lodges are often
1:25:54 > 1:25:58political, whereas in the UK they aren't supposed to take religious or
1:25:58 > 1:26:05political stances.I would qualify that statement a bit. In French
1:26:05 > 1:26:11lodges, you certainly do not discuss politics and religion as such. But
1:26:11 > 1:26:21what is important is to accept religious differences and also
1:26:21 > 1:26:26secularism. Separation between church and state. We do have
1:26:26 > 1:26:29discussions on philosophical and social issues, for instance you will
1:26:29 > 1:26:37discuss the emancipation of women, issues such as unemployment, such as
1:26:37 > 1:26:47euthanasia for instance. Poverty. There is this commitment to improve
1:26:47 > 1:26:53society, if not change society. Andreas, you were the youngest
1:26:53 > 1:26:57Freemason in Sweden for a number of years. He joined a 25. Has it helped
1:26:57 > 1:27:06your career?No, not at all.Why did you join?I'm both an academic and a
1:27:06 > 1:27:10Freemason and it has helped me to make a short distinction between
1:27:10 > 1:27:16what is academic and what is my personal development. But in my
1:27:16 > 1:27:20career outside freemasonry, my membership has not improved my
1:27:20 > 1:27:24chances to get anywhere in society. There's so much suspicion around the
1:27:24 > 1:27:29society as well when it comes to freemasonry. I hardly ever mention
1:27:29 > 1:27:34it. Now I feel confident to do it, 20 years after I joined. In the
1:27:34 > 1:27:39beginning I was very cautious to talk about it. I did lots of
1:27:39 > 1:27:43research and I feel more confident talking about it in public.Do you
1:27:43 > 1:27:47want more people to become Freemasons and if so do you accept
1:27:47 > 1:27:51you perhaps will have to be more transparent than traditionally
1:27:51 > 1:27:59Freemasons have been?Yes of course, I would definitely tell people to
1:27:59 > 1:28:02become Freemasons. It's one of the best things that happened in my
1:28:02 > 1:28:08life.In what way? You haven't been able to articulate that.It connects
1:28:08 > 1:28:14back in time to philosophical traditions that otherwise and
1:28:14 > 1:28:19expressed that clearly in society. It's an oral transfer of knowledge,
1:28:19 > 1:28:26very performative. During the film you could see these rituals.
1:28:26 > 1:28:31Freemasonry lives in performance. It's not something you can read a
1:28:31 > 1:28:37book and become a Freemason. You must become initiated. There are
1:28:37 > 1:28:44very few instances in modern society where we initiate people. That is
1:28:44 > 1:28:48the only secret, so to speak. The personal experience of the
1:28:48 > 1:28:53initiation which is the big asset. The second thing is the
1:28:53 > 1:28:57transparency. Freemasons have been very transparent and people have
1:28:57 > 1:29:02been bad at reading about freemasonry. The question is what do
1:29:02 > 1:29:05we mean when we want to have transparency. We are publishing
1:29:05 > 1:29:11quite a lot about freemasonry and still we see that if you Google,
1:29:11 > 1:29:14many misconceptions and prejudices prevail.Traditionally Freemasons
1:29:14 > 1:29:20have been mysterious. We could only film certain parts of the ceremonies
1:29:20 > 1:29:23and rituals and that's absolutely up to Christine, she can make those
1:29:23 > 1:29:27decisions. If we don't want to go along with it we can leave, but we
1:29:27 > 1:29:33wanted to film as much as we could. Do you accept, Christine, it leaves
1:29:33 > 1:29:38people with a suspicion? What is it that you are hiding?I suppose it
1:29:38 > 1:29:42does but really and truly when we ask people to swear that they will
1:29:42 > 1:29:48never reveal the secrets we ask them as a symbolic act of their honour
1:29:48 > 1:29:53and integrity. That's what it means. Although they may not be very
1:29:53 > 1:29:57important to other people, they are important to us. So they demonstrate
1:29:57 > 1:30:01a person's commitment to their membership to the order, by keeping
1:30:01 > 1:30:08those secrets.I wonder maybe if asking people to do that, maybe that
1:30:08 > 1:30:11sustains you? It maintains this intrigue when actually from what
1:30:11 > 1:30:20we've seen to date it would appear to be reasonably benign, possibly
1:30:20 > 1:30:24worthy and potentially boring.It is a very benign society because we do
1:30:24 > 1:30:30a lot of good. One of the practices we carry out his charity. We raise a
1:30:30 > 1:30:37lot of money for charity. It is part of our duty as a Freemason, to
1:30:37 > 1:30:41support others and help them. So yes, that's what we do. It's not
1:30:41 > 1:30:45just what we do.
1:30:45 > 1:30:50Tell us about what you are wearing around your neck. Tell us about the
1:30:50 > 1:30:59significance of that?It is a Grand Master's collar of office. It is a
1:30:59 > 1:31:04Grand Master's collar. You can't see it, but that is the collar jewel
1:31:04 > 1:31:10which is a blazing sun, the glory in the centre with the all seeing eye.
1:31:10 > 1:31:19Lift it higher. Yes, we have got it. And that's real gold, I assume?No.
1:31:19 > 1:31:28Is it not?No.Oh my gosh. You can't get that down Clare's Accessories,
1:31:28 > 1:31:41can you?No.Thank you, Christine. It is a pleasure.Thank you to our
1:31:41 > 1:31:48guests.Can you allow me to add a little?Briefly.I wanted to point
1:31:48 > 1:31:56out there has been an evolution concerning women Freemasons, but the
1:31:56 > 1:32:04wages situation is very different in France and England. They are not
1:32:04 > 1:32:09recognised by the United Grand Lodge. Whereas in France women
1:32:09 > 1:32:13Freemasons are recognised by their male counterparts except for one
1:32:13 > 1:32:19grand lodge which has the official links with the United Grand Lodge of
1:32:19 > 1:32:23England, but apart from that, we are fully recognised and that's the
1:32:23 > 1:32:28difference and there is still a long way to go.Thank you. Thank you very
1:32:28 > 1:32:32much.
1:32:34 > 1:32:35Still to come:
1:32:35 > 1:32:38The actors' union Equity are looking for solutions to combat sexual
1:32:38 > 1:32:40harassment across the industry, following allegations
1:32:40 > 1:32:45against Harvey Weinstein and more lately, Kevin Spacey.
1:32:45 > 1:32:53We will talk to them in their first interview after the allegations
1:32:53 > 1:32:56surfaced.
1:32:56 > 1:32:59As many as one in 25 people are homeless in England's worst hit
1:32:59 > 1:33:01areas according to a new survey.
1:33:01 > 1:33:04We'll talk to two women who've been left homeless and are now living
1:33:04 > 1:33:06in temporary accommodation about their lives and
1:33:06 > 1:33:07hopes for the future.
1:33:07 > 1:33:08Time for the latest news - here's Annita.
1:33:08 > 1:33:12The International Development Secretary, Priti Patel,
1:33:12 > 1:33:14is flying back to Britain from Africa at the request
1:33:14 > 1:33:16of Theresa May amid growing speculation about her future
1:33:16 > 1:33:17in the government.
1:33:17 > 1:33:21She had already been forced to apologise for a series
1:33:21 > 1:33:23of unauthorised meetings while on a family holiday in Israel,
1:33:23 > 1:33:26it's now emerged she had further talks which she failed to disclose
1:33:26 > 1:33:35to the Prime Minister.
1:33:35 > 1:33:39The Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson was questioned about
1:33:39 > 1:33:42Priti Patel on his way into the Nato defence ministers meeting in
1:33:42 > 1:33:44Brussels, but he didn't answer directly.
1:33:44 > 1:33:46REPORTER: Is it right that Priti Patel should be
1:33:46 > 1:33:48sacked do you think?
1:33:48 > 1:33:51I'm very much focussing on actually the issues that are here at the Nato
1:33:51 > 1:33:54conference for ministers and making sure that they understand our
1:33:54 > 1:33:57commitment to Europe's defence is absolutely resolute.
1:33:57 > 1:34:01One minister on the verge of departure.
1:34:01 > 1:34:04The Foreign Secretary floundering a little, with respect sir,
1:34:04 > 1:34:07a Defence Secretary very new to the job, it doesn't
1:34:07 > 1:34:09give a huge amount of confidence for Britain's
1:34:09 > 1:34:13ministerial overseas footprint?
1:34:13 > 1:34:16We are very much focussed on talking about military matters
1:34:16 > 1:34:19here and that is what I'm going to be doing all day but thank
1:34:19 > 1:34:26you very much for your time.
1:34:26 > 1:34:29REPORTER: Can you put to bed rumours that you perhaps advised
1:34:29 > 1:34:31Prime Minister to get rid of Michael Fallon?
1:34:31 > 1:34:33Oh the Prime Minister makes her own decisions
1:34:33 > 1:34:36on who is serving in her Cabinet and they are only the Prime
1:34:36 > 1:34:37Minister's decisions.
1:34:37 > 1:34:39But she didn't actually - she makes her own decisions
1:34:39 > 1:34:41and she always does make her own decisions.
1:34:41 > 1:34:45But thank you ever so much for your time, thank you.
1:34:45 > 1:34:49The head of NHS England will warn today that the public wants to see
1:34:49 > 1:34:52promises on NHS funding, made during the EU
1:34:52 > 1:34:54referendum campaign, honoured by the government.
1:34:54 > 1:34:56Simon Stevens will tell a health conference that trust
1:34:56 > 1:34:58in the democratic process will be weakened, if higher
1:34:58 > 1:35:04funding is not delivered.
1:35:04 > 1:35:07Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing as he continues his tour of Asia.
1:35:07 > 1:35:09The American President took a tour of the Forbidden City
1:35:09 > 1:35:11in the capital, alongside his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping.
1:35:11 > 1:35:14Mr Trump is expected to ask China to cut its financial
1:35:14 > 1:35:16links with North Korea.
1:35:16 > 1:35:18Speaking in South Korea earlier, Mr Trump urged all countries to join
1:35:18 > 1:35:21forces to isolate Pyongyang, saying the world could not tolerate
1:35:21 > 1:35:29a rogue nation that threatened nuclear devastation.
1:35:29 > 1:35:33The Prince of Wales has been criticised for failing to disclose
1:35:33 > 1:35:37an investment by his private estate in an offshore company.
1:35:37 > 1:35:39The revelations come from a number of leaked documents about tax havens
1:35:39 > 1:35:41known as the Paradise Papers.
1:35:41 > 1:35:43It's the second time this week that a member
1:35:43 > 1:35:45of the Royal Family has been named.
1:35:45 > 1:35:48The broadcaster Sky has said it will consider closing Sky News if it
1:35:48 > 1:35:50becomes a stumbling block in its proposed merger
1:35:50 > 1:35:53with 21st Century Fox.
1:35:53 > 1:35:55Rupert Murdoch's bid for full control of Sky
1:35:55 > 1:35:56is being investigated by the Competition
1:35:56 > 1:36:03and Markets Authority, on grounds of media plurality.
1:36:04 > 1:36:07Thousands of people with the most advanced cancers in England are now
1:36:07 > 1:36:08surviving for several years after diagnosis,
1:36:08 > 1:36:09according to research.
1:36:09 > 1:36:12MacMillan Cancer Support said this was due to the success
1:36:12 > 1:36:14of new treatments, but it warned living longer with advanced cancer
1:36:14 > 1:36:24brings its own difficulties.
1:36:25 > 1:36:31That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
1:36:31 > 1:36:35Jennifer says, "I used to work at the Freemasons arms in coffin
1:36:35 > 1:36:42garden. We would cater for events. One evening I got locked in the
1:36:42 > 1:36:49kitchen and all they did was eat, drink and sing hymns. Hardly MI5! "
1:36:49 > 1:36:56Here's some sport now with Katherine Downes.
1:36:56 > 1:36:59Here are the top sports stories of the day for you.
1:36:59 > 1:37:02It's been a busy 24 hours for Andy Murray,
1:37:02 > 1:37:04welcoming his second daughter with his wife Kim, and making
1:37:04 > 1:37:06a return to court to play an exhibition match
1:37:06 > 1:37:09against Roger Federer - it's the first time he's played in public
1:37:09 > 1:37:10since Wimbledon in July.
1:37:10 > 1:37:12The UK Anti-Doping Agency say they're worried about an ongoing
1:37:12 > 1:37:14case against Tyson Fury.
1:37:14 > 1:37:16He tested positive for a banned steroid last June -
1:37:16 > 1:37:18and UKAD say if he sues them for loss of earnings,
1:37:18 > 1:37:19they will be bankrupt.
1:37:19 > 1:37:21They're believed to have asked the Government
1:37:21 > 1:37:22to underwrite the case.
1:37:22 > 1:37:24England and Germany will both wear poppies on black armbands
1:37:24 > 1:37:27for their friendly on Friday after Fifa changed their rules
1:37:27 > 1:37:37to allow players to wear poppies as an act of remembrance.
1:37:43 > 1:37:47A swimmer competed in the games a year after making a journey from
1:37:47 > 1:37:53Syria in search of a new life. She and her sister even helped tow a
1:37:53 > 1:38:00boat full of migrants across the shore to Greece. Alex Capstick went
1:38:00 > 1:38:05to meet her in Berlin.You know that you may lose your life on the way.
1:38:05 > 1:38:08It's not your decision that you want to leave your country and you want
1:38:08 > 1:38:14to go to another country. So, you kind of think about what's better
1:38:14 > 1:38:20for your life and for your family. This woman, Olympian and refugee who
1:38:20 > 1:38:25saved lives including her own, a story so powerful it attracted
1:38:25 > 1:38:30interest from movie moguls across the world. The teenager swimmer who
1:38:30 > 1:38:34fled Syria to pursue her sporting dreams.Imagine there is a war in
1:38:34 > 1:38:38your country, you can't go back. You can't see your children. You can't
1:38:38 > 1:38:44take anything. This is the suit you have on you. That's it.It was a 25
1:38:44 > 1:38:47day nightmare which featured a sinking boat full of migrants
1:38:47 > 1:38:54heading for Greece. She jumped into the sea with her sister to helped
1:38:54 > 1:38:59keep it afloat.I was afraid. It was dark and I was just seeing the
1:38:59 > 1:39:02island, but never reaching it.You could see the island in the
1:39:02 > 1:39:10distance?Yes.So you knew which way to go?It's not that I was, the
1:39:10 > 1:39:15heros, pulling a rope, you know. It's OK, I helped the boat, but it
1:39:15 > 1:39:21was not only me or my sister. If we didn't work together until we reach
1:39:21 > 1:39:25the shore, it will never, me and my sister will never make it happen.
1:39:25 > 1:39:29You can imagine they told you, it is a 45 minute trip and you stayed
1:39:29 > 1:39:33three-and-a-half hours.What did you have with you?Nothing. My jeans and
1:39:33 > 1:39:41my T-shirt. My shoes was also gone. She arrived in Berlin where she
1:39:41 > 1:39:48joined this swimming club in the city's park. Her technique and
1:39:48 > 1:39:52tenacity impressed local coaches. She made speedy progress and
1:39:52 > 1:39:56incredibly just 11 months after her ordeal, she was on the biggest
1:39:56 > 1:40:03sporting stage of all, marching into the Olympic Stadium alongside nine
1:40:03 > 1:40:08other athletes selected to compete under the refugee banner.Even
1:40:08 > 1:40:13before one day, they were telling me I was leaving to do the Olympics, it
1:40:13 > 1:40:17was a surprise after only one here I am a refugee in Germany and I'm
1:40:17 > 1:40:23going and there is a refugee Olympic team, it was incredible.She didn't
1:40:23 > 1:40:32have to wait long to compete. She hoped to meet one of her greatest
1:40:32 > 1:40:38idols, Michael Phelps.I saw him, but I didn't meet him. I swam this
1:40:38 > 1:40:44the same lane.She is now a teenager in demand. With an expanding entour
1:40:44 > 1:40:48ranlg be fitting her growing stature on the world's stage. It is hard to
1:40:48 > 1:40:53believe that only two years ago she was making that treacherous
1:40:53 > 1:40:57desperate journey from Syria into an unknown future and look at her now,
1:40:57 > 1:41:02a global personality, quite clearly, at ease in the spotlight.
1:41:02 > 1:41:05There have been meetings with major global figures. She addressed the UN
1:41:05 > 1:41:09and given talks at other high-profile events, highlighting
1:41:09 > 1:41:14the plight of refugees.Actually, we're working on bringing more
1:41:14 > 1:41:17awareness to the people of our refugees and about what is happening
1:41:17 > 1:41:23in the world. I'm just hoping to get the idea to people that yes, they
1:41:23 > 1:41:28are normal people and they had a normal life and they were forced to
1:41:28 > 1:41:29flee their country because of violence.
1:41:29 > 1:41:33And you are making a movie or a move dwri is being made about you. How
1:41:33 > 1:41:42exciting is that?Yes, it is amazing. I'm really excited. Yeah,
1:41:42 > 1:41:48now nothing has happened. We told the story already. And yeah, I'm
1:41:48 > 1:41:52excited to be sometimes on set and watch.Who would you like to play
1:41:52 > 1:41:58you?To be honest, I have no idea. I would like to play myself! I cannot
1:41:58 > 1:42:07act. No, I can act, but I don't have time. But yeah, I think I would just
1:42:07 > 1:42:12wait and see who she will be. But above all, she is focussed on
1:42:12 > 1:42:18training hard. She wants a place at the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo and
1:42:18 > 1:42:22doesn't mind she who represents.My ambition is just to be an athlete.
1:42:22 > 1:42:28If I'm going to start for Germany or for my country, or for the refugee
1:42:28 > 1:42:31Olympic team, I'm going to do the best I can and it will be my
1:42:31 > 1:42:35pleasure.In a life full of twists and turns, the way to Tokyo may not
1:42:35 > 1:42:38be straightforward, but it's clear this determined 19-year-old will
1:42:38 > 1:42:47rise to whatever challenges lie in wait. .
1:42:48 > 1:42:53The number of people recorded as homeless in England now
1:42:53 > 1:42:55stands at over 268,000, that's according to a new report
1:42:55 > 1:42:59by the charity, Shelter.
1:42:59 > 1:43:00The housing charity combined official rough-sleeping,
1:43:00 > 1:43:02numbers in temporary accommodation and hostels, and social
1:43:02 > 1:43:05services figures.
1:43:05 > 1:43:08Shelter says this shows the number of homeless people in Britain has
1:43:08 > 1:43:10increased by 13,000 in a year, but only uses estimates
1:43:10 > 1:43:12in Scotland and Wales.
1:43:12 > 1:43:14Government records are not definitive, the charity claims,
1:43:14 > 1:43:23so the true figure of homelessness the figure is likely to be higher.
1:43:23 > 1:43:25We can speak to Natalie Robertson, who is living in temporary
1:43:25 > 1:43:29accommodation with her son in South London, Gillian Cooper,
1:43:29 > 1:43:32who is with her family in temporary accommodation in East London
1:43:32 > 1:43:35and Polly Neate, who's chief executive of the charity, Shelter.
1:43:35 > 1:43:40Welcome all of you. Thank you for coming on. It is probably worth
1:43:40 > 1:43:44explaining why, when Natalie and Gillian both have a roof over their
1:43:44 > 1:43:49heads, they are define as homeless? Well, people who are in temporary
1:43:49 > 1:43:53accommodation, which commonly means a room, sometimes even for a whole
1:43:53 > 1:43:56family, in a bed and breakfast, hotel or hostel are classed as
1:43:56 > 1:44:00homeless because they don't have a home to call their own. They don't
1:44:00 > 1:44:06have anything like a long-term or permanent tenancy. And you know, I
1:44:06 > 1:44:10think it's really important not to under estimate the devastating
1:44:10 > 1:44:16impact that this has on people. We see it day in and day out at
1:44:16 > 1:44:21Shelter. It is that uncertainty and it's important to stress as well
1:44:21 > 1:44:25that this temporary accommodation often is really inadequate and keeps
1:44:25 > 1:44:29changing and in fact, in the study we are talking about today, we found
1:44:29 > 1:44:33that a third of those in temporary accommodation will still be there in
1:44:33 > 1:44:37a year's time so it is not that temporary even.How many times have
1:44:37 > 1:44:42you been moved in the two years that you have been officially homeless?
1:44:42 > 1:44:47We have been moved four times and we should have moved another move as of
1:44:47 > 1:44:53two weeks ago.Right.It doesn't stop. It is always a consideration,
1:44:53 > 1:44:56you can't collect thingsment you can't do things with the temporary
1:44:56 > 1:44:59home that you have got because you have got to carry the bulk with you
1:44:59 > 1:45:04somewhere else. It doesn't even look like a home.And your
1:45:04 > 1:45:08eight-year-old, your 14-year-old and 16-year-old live in where you are
1:45:08 > 1:45:17now, with you?Yes.What condition is it in? What's it like?
1:45:17 > 1:45:20The one we've got now is probably the best of all of them. It can get
1:45:20 > 1:45:25really bad. We've had cases where there have been mice, cockroaches,
1:45:25 > 1:45:30rats. It's dangerous for the children to be in because they don't
1:45:30 > 1:45:33take the children into consideration when they are being housed in these
1:45:33 > 1:45:38places.Which means you can move away from their school or local GP,
1:45:38 > 1:45:43for example. Or away from their friends. Does that have a big
1:45:43 > 1:45:48impact?We've tried to make sure they've kept a home base near their
1:45:48 > 1:45:53school. We've maintained the doctor we go to. If we were to move we
1:45:53 > 1:45:56wouldn't have all the ID that is prepared to join a doctor 's surgery
1:45:56 > 1:46:01so we've maintained our doctors. Other than that, the schools are
1:46:01 > 1:46:06very important for children.What would you say to people who might be
1:46:06 > 1:46:09watching thinking, you're in an all right place now. You've had some
1:46:09 > 1:46:14awful accommodation but now it's OK. The kids are still at the same
1:46:14 > 1:46:19school and youth maintained the GP. Why is it a problem that you're in
1:46:19 > 1:46:27temporary accommodation?We aren't going to be staying there from. We
1:46:27 > 1:46:30can't set routes down. My children used to go to groups in our original
1:46:30 > 1:46:35house. They used to do piano, drums and what have you. But now they
1:46:35 > 1:46:39can't do any of that so they don't feel settled. When we first got to
1:46:39 > 1:46:46that place, prior to this we were in a one-bedroom place with just one
1:46:46 > 1:46:51row with the whole family. We found out later it should only housed to
1:46:51 > 1:46:55people.The reason there were seven is because the two older ones were
1:46:55 > 1:47:03with you but they've now left.Yes. How did you end up homeless,
1:47:03 > 1:47:08Natalie?I was living with my mum in 2016, with my step dad and my
1:47:08 > 1:47:12brother. I had my son, I was working. When I was made homeless he
1:47:12 > 1:47:20was one-year-old, the day after his first birthday. To salvage my mum's
1:47:20 > 1:47:22relationship with myself I had to make that drastic change because we
1:47:22 > 1:47:27were clashing over time and it wasn't fair on any of us. She made
1:47:27 > 1:47:31the decision to salvage a relationship, tried mediation and it
1:47:31 > 1:47:38didn't work. The local council gave me accommodation in Thornton Heath.
1:47:38 > 1:47:41I was there for 12 weeks. There were three other families in that
1:47:41 > 1:47:49property. It was clean, we had to share kitchen and bathroom. There
1:47:49 > 1:47:52was a gentleman living there who had HIV and left blood in the bathroom
1:47:52 > 1:47:58and expose that to myself and my son and other families. I approach the
1:47:58 > 1:48:04council who didn't believe me. They didn't believe us at first. It
1:48:04 > 1:48:09wasn't until I got this man's full name, did a bit of research on
1:48:09 > 1:48:14media, and I found him on there. You write something about having HIV
1:48:14 > 1:48:22site to get straight to the council. Did you get moved?I got moved. I
1:48:22 > 1:48:25didn't have an official apology or further investigation.Where are you
1:48:25 > 1:48:32living now?I'm at Connect House on an industrial estate in Mitcham. We
1:48:32 > 1:48:39went to the House of Commons yesterday for a debate. A few
1:48:39 > 1:48:43scenarios have happened there and I don't think it's safe at all.
1:48:43 > 1:48:49There's loads of lorries and fans, the pollution, the dust.It is
1:48:49 > 1:48:55actually an industrial estate?It is actually on there, yes.Sutton
1:48:55 > 1:48:58Council say they are supporting an ever increasing number of homeless
1:48:58 > 1:49:06people. By April 2016 the figures were 411 and as of this week its 577
1:49:06 > 1:49:10households. They say they are trying to strike a balance between placing
1:49:10 > 1:49:14Holebas families far away or more locally -- replacing homeless
1:49:14 > 1:49:18families. Redbridge say they are trying hard, it's a top priority as
1:49:18 > 1:49:24the council. Polly, you will know the government is spending more on
1:49:24 > 1:49:32this. They remind us they are investing £950 million by 2020,
1:49:32 > 1:49:39they've given councils the power to plays families in decent rented
1:49:39 > 1:49:48homes. What else can they do?A lot. The issue is that there are two
1:49:48 > 1:49:51really fundamental things that are causing this problem. To be honest
1:49:51 > 1:49:55they will undermine any of the other attempts the government is making to
1:49:55 > 1:50:00solve it. One is there is not enough affordable housing. By affordable
1:50:00 > 1:50:03that has to be for low income families to rent, not affordable to
1:50:03 > 1:50:11buy. That's the long-term solution. In the short-term a lot of this is
1:50:11 > 1:50:16caused by welfare cuts. Benefit cuts and particularly the freeze on
1:50:16 > 1:50:22housing benefits. If government were to just unfreeze local housing
1:50:22 > 1:50:25allowance for families in rented accommodation, if they would
1:50:25 > 1:50:30unfreeze that in the next budget, the impact on homelessness would be
1:50:30 > 1:50:34massive.Because they would be able to afford private rented
1:50:34 > 1:50:38accommodation? I don't want to go over old arguments but you know what
1:50:38 > 1:50:41their argument would be. People who are working can't afford it so why
1:50:41 > 1:50:45would you give money to people who aren't working in order to live in
1:50:45 > 1:50:50private rented accommodation?It's a matter of what level of homelessness
1:50:50 > 1:50:55crisis we as a society are prepared to tolerate, and the level of
1:50:55 > 1:51:00unintended victims of welfare cuts we are prepared to tolerate. We are
1:51:00 > 1:51:06talking about people in work and not in work not able to afford rent
1:51:06 > 1:51:12because the property market is, as we know, through the roof. It is a
1:51:12 > 1:51:17crisis, it is a human crisis and something has got to be done.This
1:51:17 > 1:51:21is a message from Aaron on Facebook. It perhaps illustrates what you've
1:51:21 > 1:51:26just described. He said, I've been homeless for 12 months, sofa surfing
1:51:26 > 1:51:30across my family and friends homes. I've been working hard since the age
1:51:30 > 1:51:34of 15 until the age of 24, when I was forced to quit my full-time job
1:51:34 > 1:51:41and leave my abusive ex who has now left me with a lot of debt, which
1:51:41 > 1:51:45means I can't afford food. My debts are catching up with me, I'm
1:51:45 > 1:51:48depressed, I do know where to turn. The government will only offer me
1:51:48 > 1:51:54shared accommodation. I'm expected to live with people I don't know in
1:51:54 > 1:51:59a rundown area and I've paid taxes ever since I've worked and donated
1:51:59 > 1:52:02to local charities. What makes it even worse is I'm a care worker and
1:52:02 > 1:52:07a very good one. My heart and soul goes into caring and looking after
1:52:07 > 1:52:11other people and I can't support myself. Where do I go, who do I talk
1:52:11 > 1:52:20to? I feel like life isn't worth living and I'm only 24. Which is
1:52:20 > 1:52:25really, really, really upsetting. What advice would you give to Aaron?
1:52:25 > 1:52:29To get some specific advice I would advise him to call the shelter
1:52:29 > 1:52:34helpline. We will try and find him the best possible option in his
1:52:34 > 1:52:39situation. In terms of the general point, I think that case makes the
1:52:39 > 1:52:44point really well. If you're going to have an economy with incredibly
1:52:44 > 1:52:49high housing costs and very low wages, something has to be done for
1:52:49 > 1:52:54people who have absolutely no power in the marketplace. The market isn't
1:52:54 > 1:53:02delivering. What we at Shelter would argue it has to be done is to at
1:53:02 > 1:53:08least unfreeze housing benefit. Without doing that, the government's
1:53:08 > 1:53:11Homelessness Reduction Act won't succeed. It can't succeed unless
1:53:11 > 1:53:14there is actually somewhere to house people, which there won't be with
1:53:14 > 1:53:23the freeze on housing benefit.Thank you.
1:53:23 > 1:53:26The actors' union Equity has begun an investigation to find solutions
1:53:26 > 1:53:28to combat sexual harassment and the fear of disclosure
1:53:28 > 1:53:30among its members in the entertainment industry.
1:53:30 > 1:53:38It comes after revelations affecting workers across the industry,
1:53:38 > 1:53:41firstly involving the film producer Harvey Weinstein, and more lately
1:53:41 > 1:53:43Kevin Spacey, who'd been working at London's Old Vic theatre.
1:53:43 > 1:53:48Both men deny allegations of sexual harassment.
1:53:48 > 1:53:55Let's talk to Maureen Beattie, who's the Vice President of Equity.
1:53:55 > 1:54:02Thank you for talking to us.Hello. Before the Harvey Weinstein scandal
1:54:02 > 1:54:08broke, how endemic was this problem? I think it was every single place
1:54:08 > 1:54:14you could imagine in our industry, from drama schools, dance schools,
1:54:14 > 1:54:20all the entertainment schools, the Conservative whiles, right through
1:54:20 > 1:54:23to the people beginning their careers and right through to the
1:54:23 > 1:54:26people whose names are above the title. I think it's been there all
1:54:26 > 1:54:30the time and I think what's happened with the Harvey Weinstein scandal
1:54:30 > 1:54:36and the revelations coming through about people like Mr Spacey, we've
1:54:36 > 1:54:43been made to realise just how terrible and endemic it is.So it's
1:54:43 > 1:54:50been there all along, in every sector of the acting world, and
1:54:50 > 1:54:58nothing has been done?No, I wouldn't say that was true at all. I
1:54:58 > 1:55:06am vice president of Equity and Equity have got very, very rigorous
1:55:06 > 1:55:17rules in place to protect people in drama schools and in their careers,
1:55:17 > 1:55:21particularly if nudity or simulated sex is required. There are very,
1:55:21 > 1:55:26very strict rules and regulations and protocols in place. The problem
1:55:26 > 1:55:31has been that not the majority but the minority of people who employ
1:55:31 > 1:55:41our members and to cast productions in all the media are not paying
1:55:41 > 1:55:46attention in the way that they should. One of the things that we
1:55:46 > 1:55:50want to do with this working group, we want to come up with new ideas as
1:55:50 > 1:55:54to how we're going to deal with this. We want to make a real sea
1:55:54 > 1:56:00change, but we also want to talk the employers about how they need to put
1:56:00 > 1:56:03these protocols into place and how they need to be much more rigorous
1:56:03 > 1:56:08about it.Since the Weinstein scandal broke, how many people have
1:56:08 > 1:56:12come forward with complaints of sexual harassment and worse, serious
1:56:12 > 1:56:19complaints of sexual assault?I am not privy to actual figures, and I'm
1:56:19 > 1:56:23certainly not privy to names either of people bringing their stories or
1:56:23 > 1:56:28who the stories are about.It must have been the only topic of
1:56:28 > 1:56:35conversation for the last few weeks. Is it dozens, is it hundreds?I have
1:56:35 > 1:56:41no idea. I'm not trying to pull the wool over your eyes. The whole point
1:56:41 > 1:56:47about Equity is that it is entirely secret. You bring your story and the
1:56:47 > 1:56:52Equity staff went even speak to me. They won't tell the president of the
1:56:52 > 1:56:57union. What I can tell you, absolutely of course, since these
1:56:57 > 1:57:01revelations have come about people have felt empowered to speak out and
1:57:01 > 1:57:05people who would frightened or guilty about speaking out, because
1:57:05 > 1:57:10they felt it was their fault, of course they have been empowered. So
1:57:10 > 1:57:14we have seen a Equity a huge upsurge of people bringing their stories to
1:57:14 > 1:57:19ask.What does Equity think about actors naming others and social
1:57:19 > 1:57:24media, alleging they have been seriously sexually assaulted? The
1:57:24 > 1:57:31British actor Ed Westwick strenuously denies accusations by an
1:57:31 > 1:57:36American actress that he raped her. He said he's never met her or forced
1:57:36 > 1:57:44himself on anyone and certainly never committed rape.Well, the
1:57:44 > 1:57:48problem of course is that there facts and there's gossip, and those
1:57:48 > 1:57:53people climbing on bandwagons. There are lots and lots of grey areas and
1:57:53 > 1:57:58we have to be very, very careful about this.Very briefly because
1:57:58 > 1:58:01we're running out of time, the principal about naming someone on
1:58:01 > 1:58:08social media, is that a good thing or not?I'm not on social media, I
1:58:08 > 1:58:11think it's a dodgy area and I think you have to be very, very sure of
1:58:11 > 1:58:19what you're doing before you start naming people.Thank you.
1:58:19 > 1:58:26Kevin Spacey denies allegations of sexual harassment and Harvey
1:58:26 > 1:58:30Weinstein denies allegations of non-conceptual sex.
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