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0:00:09 > 0:00:11Hello it's Monday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

0:00:11 > 0:00:13welcome to the programme.

0:00:13 > 0:00:16Business leaders from the UK and Europe are meeting

0:00:16 > 0:00:17with the prime minister today.

0:00:17 > 0:00:21They want to get some sort of deal in place to ensure that trade is not

0:00:21 > 0:00:28badly affected after Britain leaves the EU.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30Also - in Britain, they're the silent minority -

0:00:30 > 0:00:32Chinese people rarely feature in the national conversation;

0:00:32 > 0:00:35but we've learned that their silence when it comes to health can be

0:00:35 > 0:00:38a matter of life and death; and old cultural traditions can see

0:00:38 > 0:00:45new mums confined for a month in their homes following childbirth

0:00:45 > 0:00:50You shouldn't drink cold drinks during the month, shouldn't really

0:00:50 > 0:00:54shower will stop hair washing is not allowed. And not going outside the

0:00:54 > 0:01:01boundaries of your house.We will bring you our film in 15 minutes. It

0:01:01 > 0:01:07is fascinating and gives such insight.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10A British woman imprisoned in Iran is close to a mental breakdown

0:01:10 > 0:01:12and is having tests for breast cancer according her husband.

0:01:12 > 0:01:14Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe was arrested last year accused

0:01:14 > 0:01:15of trying to overthrow the regime.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18Her husband tells this programme how his wife reacted

0:01:18 > 0:01:19to the Froegin Secretary's inaccurate comments

0:01:19 > 0:01:24about why she was in Iran.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26She was pretty cross, said things that I couldn't repeat on

0:01:26 > 0:01:33television. She also, you know, yeah, I think, I think, was angry

0:01:33 > 0:01:37with all sorts of people - with me, with the campaign, with the

0:01:37 > 0:01:41Government having done nothing. She's just angry and it is just

0:01:41 > 0:01:42unfair.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44Richard Ratcliffe tells us

0:01:44 > 0:01:45he is hopeful his wife could be

0:01:45 > 0:01:47released on humanitarian grounds - we'll hear from him after 9.30.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01Hello.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06Monday morning and I have this question for you -

0:02:06 > 0:02:09how stressed are you?

0:02:09 > 0:02:14New research today suggests that over 80 per cent of us feel stressed

0:02:14 > 0:02:17at some point during the week - is that you?

0:02:17 > 0:02:20What I'm really interested in hearing from you this morning,

0:02:20 > 0:02:21is how you manage stress?

0:02:21 > 0:02:24What you do to de-stress?

0:02:24 > 0:02:28Let me know - and if you want to come on air and talk about this,

0:02:28 > 0:02:32put CALL ME in your email.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36We will talk to you between half past ten and half past 11.

0:02:36 > 0:02:37Victoria@bbc.co.uk.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40So we are talking about that and all the latest breaking news

0:02:40 > 0:02:41including that earthquake in Iran.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44Our top story today: Businesses from across Europe will be

0:02:44 > 0:02:45in Downing Street today to voice their concerns

0:02:45 > 0:02:48about trade after Brexit.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51The CBI and the Institute of Directors will be represented -

0:02:51 > 0:02:54as will business organisations from Germany, France,

0:02:54 > 0:03:01Spain and seven other countries.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04They will press Theresa May and the Brexit Secretary,

0:03:04 > 0:03:06David Davis, to clarify the future relationship between the UK

0:03:06 > 0:03:09and the rest of the EU - and demand they maintain current

0:03:09 > 0:03:10arrangements.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13Chris Mason is at Westminster.

0:03:13 > 0:03:18They really want some clarity, and they definitely don't have it, do

0:03:18 > 0:03:21they?Good morning. They want clarity. They want to be

0:03:21 > 0:03:31de-stressed. We have this bus-load of business leaders from Europe,

0:03:31 > 0:03:37various groups having their say. Urgency is the watchword we keep

0:03:37 > 0:03:42hearing from them. They are saying that the growing number of them are

0:03:42 > 0:03:47enacting contingency plans around Brexit, fearful that as the clock

0:03:47 > 0:03:50ticks down there might not be an arrangement put in place. They are

0:03:50 > 0:03:56also uncertain as to exactly what that arrangement might look like.

0:03:56 > 0:04:05The Government is keen to reach out to these groups, but given that they

0:04:05 > 0:04:10are logjams over the initial discussions about the divorce, it is

0:04:10 > 0:04:19unlikely they will leave with more clarity.Just remind us why the

0:04:19 > 0:04:23talks are logjams at the moment.The European Union has said that in

0:04:23 > 0:04:28order to move on to the future relationship that the UK can have

0:04:28 > 0:04:34with the EU and trade, there has to be sufficient progress, to use their

0:04:34 > 0:04:40ill-defined idea, around the three things on the table at the moment:

0:04:40 > 0:04:43The Irish border, citizens' rights, and what is seen as the divorce

0:04:43 > 0:04:48payment. There is optimism that some kind of deal can be arrived at, but

0:04:48 > 0:04:54that hurdle of sufficient progress -- that that hard goal can be

0:04:54 > 0:04:58cleared before Christmas, but we saw a delay at the October summit, the

0:04:58 > 0:05:08first opportunity where that hurdle may have been overcome. Until the EU

0:05:08 > 0:05:14agrees that there has been progress, their world with -- there will not

0:05:14 > 0:05:17be any discussion about the future trade agreement. The businesses say

0:05:17 > 0:05:20they need clarity on that, and quickly.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

0:05:22 > 0:05:28of the rest of the day's news.

0:05:28 > 0:05:33An earthquake has killed more than 300 people in Iran -

0:05:33 > 0:05:35more than 2500 have been injured.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37Another four people have been killed in Iraq.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39The quake hit the border area between the two countries,

0:05:39 > 0:05:42around 30 kilometres south of Halabja, with a magnitude of 7.3.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45It was so powerful, it was felt as far away as Lebanon and Turkey.

0:05:45 > 0:05:55Andrew Plant has more.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58Carried into hospital amid the chaos

0:05:58 > 0:05:59at this clinic in Iran.

0:05:59 > 0:06:00Victims of the earthquake on stretchers, others,

0:06:00 > 0:06:03walking wounded, as more and more of the injured arrived.

0:06:03 > 0:06:05The earthquake struck after dark.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07For rural villages in the affected areas, the search is beginning

0:06:07 > 0:06:10in torchlight for any survivors that may be buried

0:06:10 > 0:06:12in the fallen buildings.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16The shocks were felt in towns, too.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20People out for the evening running to safety, finding a way outside

0:06:20 > 0:06:24away from the danger, scared there could be more to come.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26The first reports are that the centre of the earthquake

0:06:26 > 0:06:28was near the border between Iran and Iraq,

0:06:28 > 0:06:31somewhere close to the city of Halabja.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34The US Geological Survey said that the epicentre was about 20

0:06:34 > 0:06:43miles south-west of the border.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46Many people have lost their homes and don't know where to sleep in the

0:06:46 > 0:06:54coming days and weeks. That will lead to a huge crisis, because there

0:06:54 > 0:06:57are also issues with electricity in the water supply. It has all been

0:06:57 > 0:06:59damaged.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00The moment the earthquake struck

0:07:00 > 0:07:03was even captured on live TV.

0:07:03 > 0:07:04These news broadcasters feeling the tremors

0:07:04 > 0:07:11as their programme played out.

0:07:11 > 0:07:13Local media is now showing emergency shelters and beds

0:07:13 > 0:07:18being set up outside.

0:07:18 > 0:07:2115 emergency teams, they say, are now helping treat the injured

0:07:21 > 0:07:23and search for survivors.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27The number of dead is still climbing, but it could be many days

0:07:27 > 0:07:36before the real extent of the damage done here

0:07:36 > 0:07:37is fully clear.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41Andrew Plant, BBC News.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44Hundreds of people have marched in Hollywood in support of victims

0:07:44 > 0:07:46of sexual assault and harassment, inspired by the 'MeToo'

0:07:46 > 0:07:47social media campaign.

0:07:47 > 0:07:49The march follows a series of assault and harassment

0:07:49 > 0:07:51allegations against public figures, set off by revelations about

0:07:51 > 0:07:52the movie mogul Harvey Weinstein.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54The marchers started on Hollywood Boulevard and walked

0:07:54 > 0:08:00along the "Walk of Fame" to CNN's headquarters.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02The family of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe,

0:08:02 > 0:08:04the British-Iranian woman jailed in Tehran, say they're increasingly

0:08:04 > 0:08:07concerned about her wellbeing.

0:08:07 > 0:08:10In a statement last night her husband Richard said his wife

0:08:10 > 0:08:13appeared to be "on the verge of a nervous breakdown"

0:08:13 > 0:08:16and is seeking treatment after finding lumps in her breasts.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19The Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, and his cabinet

0:08:19 > 0:08:21colleague Michael Gove have both been criticised for their

0:08:21 > 0:08:27comments about the case.

0:08:27 > 0:08:32The key thing to understand is that we're working very very hard and

0:08:32 > 0:08:36intensively and impartially on all those cases. Thank you very much.

0:08:36 > 0:08:40Thank you. See you later. Thank you.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42The Church of England is telling its schools that

0:08:42 > 0:08:45children should be free to explore their identity and both

0:08:45 > 0:08:47boys and girls should be allowed to wear a tutu,

0:08:47 > 0:08:49tiara or superhero cloak without judgement from

0:08:49 > 0:08:50teachers or other pupils.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52The new guidelines aim to prevent children being bullied

0:08:52 > 0:08:54because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58Jon Donnison reports:

0:08:58 > 0:09:00The Church of England first issued guidance on homophobic bullying

0:09:00 > 0:09:02in its schools three years ago.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04Today, those guidelines are being updated to include

0:09:04 > 0:09:06bullying against children and adolescents who identify

0:09:06 > 0:09:12as transgender or bisexual.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15It comes after a controversial case on the Isle of Wight where one

0:09:15 > 0:09:18couple withdrew their son from a Church of England primary

0:09:18 > 0:09:23school because another pupil asked to be accepted as transgender.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25Our child came home from school one day and said,

0:09:25 > 0:09:28"Daddy, I am confused."

0:09:28 > 0:09:32There was a boy in his class who is sometimes coming as a boy

0:09:32 > 0:09:35and sometimes coming as a girl.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38We were concerned about that because it is very confusing.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41How do they deal with that?

0:09:41 > 0:09:43Let us remember, these are primary school children,

0:09:43 > 0:09:45they are six years of age.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48But the new guidance stresses children should be able to play

0:09:48 > 0:09:52with what it calls the many cloaks of identity.

0:09:52 > 0:09:55It says children are at the trying-on stage of life,

0:09:55 > 0:09:58so no labels need to be fixed.

0:09:58 > 0:10:02And the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, writes

0:10:02 > 0:10:10in the new guidance...

0:10:10 > 0:10:14But the Church is by no means united on the issue of human sexuality,

0:10:14 > 0:10:17and this latest guidance is likely to divide opinion.

0:10:17 > 0:10:22Jon Donnison, BBC News.

0:10:22 > 0:10:25Gun owners in England and Wales are being encouraged to hand

0:10:25 > 0:10:28in their weapons to the police as part of a two week long

0:10:28 > 0:10:30gun surrender scheme.

0:10:30 > 0:10:36People giving up their firearms won't face prosecution

0:10:36 > 0:10:38for illegal possession, but could be questioned if a gun

0:10:38 > 0:10:40is found to be linked to a crime.

0:10:40 > 0:10:41Sima Kotecha reports.

0:10:41 > 0:10:42Hand in your guns, and no

0:10:42 > 0:10:44questions will be asked.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46That is what police forces across England and Wales are calling

0:10:46 > 0:10:52upon people to do.

0:10:52 > 0:10:55The last firearms surrender was in 2014, when 6000 handguns,

0:10:55 > 0:10:57rifles and imitation firearms were handed in.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00It is targeted at those who may have forgotten about owning a gun,

0:11:00 > 0:11:03or may be too scared to tell officers they have got one,

0:11:03 > 0:11:04in case they are arrested.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07The deal is, no questions will be asked at the point of surrender.

0:11:07 > 0:11:10However, if the weapon is traced back to a crime scene,

0:11:10 > 0:11:16they could be called in for questioning.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20We're realistic enough to realise that we're not going to get hardened

0:11:20 > 0:11:24gang members, in possession of weapons they intend to use,

0:11:24 > 0:11:26hand in a gun.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29But this is part of our response, to try and make it as difficult

0:11:29 > 0:11:32as possible for those people to come into possession of any type

0:11:32 > 0:11:36of weapon at all.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Latest figures show that there were almost 7000 crimes involving

0:11:38 > 0:11:41firearms in England and Wales last year.

0:11:41 > 0:11:46That is an increase of 27% on the year before.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49But the number of crimes is still far less than a decade ago,

0:11:49 > 0:11:53when it was 31% higher.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56Critics say those who want to use a gun will do so, and the surrender

0:11:56 > 0:11:58won't make a difference.

0:11:58 > 0:12:05It begins today, and lasts for two weeks.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08Bob Geldof says he is handing back his Freedom of the City of Dublin -

0:12:08 > 0:12:11because the same honour has been granted to the Burmese political

0:12:11 > 0:12:14leader, Aung San Suu Kyi.

0:12:14 > 0:12:19He's described the treatment by Myanmar's military

0:12:19 > 0:12:21of the Rohingya Muslim minority community as "mass

0:12:21 > 0:12:23ethnic cleansing."

0:12:23 > 0:12:26The Live Aid organiser said his home city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi -

0:12:26 > 0:12:33but now she had appalled and shamed Dublin.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35Jupiter and Venus - the two brightest planets -

0:12:35 > 0:12:37have been appearing very close together in the morning sky.

0:12:37 > 0:12:40Both have been visible to the naked eye across the UK.

0:12:40 > 0:12:44The best viewing time was 40 minutes before sunrise.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47While the planets are visible to the naked eye, viewers

0:12:47 > 0:12:49with a telescope have also been able to see Jupiter's

0:12:49 > 0:12:52four Galilean moons.

0:12:52 > 0:12:58That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

0:12:58 > 0:13:00Thank you very much.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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0:13:17 > 0:13:21You research suggests that most of us get stressed at least once a

0:13:21 > 0:13:28week. Zane says, hope this e-mail finds you well. Maybe it sounds

0:13:28 > 0:13:32crazy, but I cancel myself in front of the mirror and bring myself down.

0:13:32 > 0:13:37My life is full of stress, and I'm not the type of person to discuss my

0:13:37 > 0:13:42issues with others. I definitely try to avoid therapists. Bruce says,

0:13:42 > 0:13:46this is an easy one for me. In order to de-stressed, I get on my

0:13:46 > 0:13:50motorbike and ride around the Kent countryside where there is little

0:13:50 > 0:13:56traffic and great scenery. That gets rid of any stress with ease. Thank

0:13:56 > 0:14:02you for those. I am interested to find out what you do to de-stress.

0:14:02 > 0:14:07How do you manage your stress? If you want to talk to me between half

0:14:07 > 0:14:13past ten and how past 11, put in your e-mail call me, and we will.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16Time for some sport now - and Jessica Creighton is in Basel

0:14:16 > 0:14:18for us, where Northern Ireland suffered heartbreak last night -

0:14:18 > 0:14:22they won't be going to the World Cup - and all because of one penalty,

0:14:22 > 0:14:24Jessica?

0:14:24 > 0:14:30Good morning, Victoria. It is a cruel way for it all to end for

0:14:30 > 0:14:33Northern Ireland. One controversial penalty decision that they conceded

0:14:33 > 0:14:38in the first leg for a supposed handball. Many people have

0:14:38 > 0:14:40questioned that because it seemed to strike the Northern Ireland player

0:14:40 > 0:14:45on the back of the shoulder, but it was judged as handball, the referee

0:14:45 > 0:14:50gave a penalty. And because of that, it seems, the Northern Ireland World

0:14:50 > 0:14:54Cup dream is over. In the second leg, they gave it their all. Such a

0:14:54 > 0:14:59brave performance. They had a few chances. They came so close in the

0:14:59 > 0:15:03dying moments when Jonny Evans' header was cleared off the line.

0:15:03 > 0:15:08They were utterly devastated, the players on their knees. Some of them

0:15:08 > 0:15:15were fighting tears, I guess, reflecting what might have been, had

0:15:15 > 0:15:18that controversial penalty decision not gone against them. Here is what

0:15:18 > 0:15:24the manager, Michael O'Neill, had to say.It would be too strong a word

0:15:24 > 0:15:29to say cheated, but you do feel there is a certain injustice to

0:15:29 > 0:15:32going out of a tournament in this page. A lot of people said

0:15:32 > 0:15:36Switzerland were far superior to us in the first leg, but they only

0:15:36 > 0:15:41scored the penalty, not anything else, so we could have come here

0:15:41 > 0:15:470-0, could still have been playing, playing extra time now, so there is

0:15:47 > 0:15:50an injustice there, a huge injustice, given the nature of what

0:15:50 > 0:15:57has divided the teams.What next for Michael O'Neill and Northern

0:15:57 > 0:16:00Ireland? This was seen as their best chance of making it to a World Cup,

0:16:00 > 0:16:07wasn't it?

0:16:07 > 0:16:10Exactly. 80 years ago if you have said they were close to making a

0:16:10 > 0:16:14World Cup the few people would have laughed only. -- a few years ago.

0:16:14 > 0:16:21Been on a journey -- they have been on a journey. They are ranked just

0:16:21 > 0:16:29outside the top 20. They had this incredible run and they got the last

0:16:29 > 0:16:3416 last year. So they are incredible competition on the world stage. Now

0:16:34 > 0:16:38they have failed to qualify, you wonder what might happen to some of

0:16:38 > 0:16:42their veteran players, the likes of the Captain Steven Davis and Gareth

0:16:42 > 0:16:46McAuley. Will that be the last time we see them in the green and white

0:16:46 > 0:16:49of Northern Ireland? And the manager, Michael O'Neill, has

0:16:49 > 0:16:54received so much praise for the transformation Northern Ireland have

0:16:54 > 0:16:59undergone. But he has been touted as the person to fill the vacant

0:16:59 > 0:17:03Scotland manager position. It might be all change for Northern Ireland

0:17:03 > 0:17:10in the future.Thanks very much. Welcome to the programme. I really

0:17:10 > 0:17:16would urge you to watch our first film today. It is about the minority

0:17:16 > 0:17:25in Britain which is practically invisible.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27Chinese people make up 0.9% of our population.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29They rarely speak out, let alone feature in

0:17:29 > 0:17:30the national conversation.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32This really matters when it comes to their health -

0:17:32 > 0:17:35that's when it can become about life or death.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37This programme has learned that those in the Chinese community often

0:17:37 > 0:17:39hide or ignore illnesses because of their culture.

0:17:39 > 0:17:42We've heard how women are being encouraged to "confine"

0:17:42 > 0:17:44themselves in their homes for a whole month after having

0:17:44 > 0:17:47a baby - and how the elderly are suffering in silence

0:17:47 > 0:17:50because of pressure to be "stoic" and "endure" pain.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53But as one health expert tells our reporter Amber Haque -

0:17:53 > 0:17:54"Just because we're silent and polite doesn't mean

0:17:54 > 0:18:04we should be ignored".

0:18:04 > 0:18:06Chinese is well known to be invisible and silent,

0:18:06 > 0:18:12we all know that.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14Just because we are silent and polite, doesn't mean

0:18:14 > 0:18:18we should be ignored.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21TRANSLATION:They work longer hours, where work takes number one

0:18:21 > 0:18:25and health takes a back-seat.

0:18:25 > 0:18:31They feel that, if I've got cancer, it's a given, I should endure pain.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33I feel like crying because we're talking about really serious stuff

0:18:33 > 0:18:38and it's really like a big deal for mum to be doing this.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40TRANSLATION:At one point, I thought of committing suicide,

0:18:40 > 0:18:50because I thought there's no hope.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16They came here in the early 19th century, and now the Chinese

0:19:16 > 0:19:19community make-up 0.9% of our population.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22In 2015, more Chinese people immigrated to the UK than any other

0:19:22 > 0:19:25country apart from India.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28Sometimes they are referred to as the silent minority

0:19:28 > 0:19:31because they keep their heads down and work hard.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34But, as a result, health experts tell us that some in the Chinese

0:19:34 > 0:19:35community are being overlooked and failing to get

0:19:35 > 0:19:45access to treatment.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52Dr Kip Wu is a neurologist at Kings College Hospital.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54She's been concerned by the lack of British Chinese

0:19:54 > 0:19:55engaging with the NHS.

0:19:55 > 0:19:57And she's decided to set up her own voluntary service.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Those people could actually be accessing NHS health

0:19:59 > 0:20:05care, but they weren't.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07There are cultural practices and beliefs that hinder them

0:20:07 > 0:20:11from getting the best service that they require.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13One of the Chinese cultural beliefs is saving face and keeping

0:20:13 > 0:20:15illnesses to yourself, within the family,

0:20:15 > 0:20:16to avoid embarrassment.

0:20:16 > 0:20:21And I see that quite often in Chinese families.

0:20:21 > 0:20:23And these cultural expectations start right from the beginning,

0:20:23 > 0:20:33when a mum gives birth to a baby.

0:20:43 > 0:20:47Sitting month, as in confinement after childbirth, is a tradition

0:20:47 > 0:20:50so ingrained in Chinese culture that even I did it myself,

0:20:50 > 0:20:53some practices.

0:20:53 > 0:20:58Some of the very strict rules are that you shouldn't drink cold

0:20:58 > 0:21:01drinks during the month, you shouldn't really shower,

0:21:01 > 0:21:04hair washing is not allowed, and obviously not going outside

0:21:04 > 0:21:08the boundaries of your house.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11Do you think the rest of the country know that some Chinese women

0:21:11 > 0:21:14are confining themselves for a month after giving birth?

0:21:14 > 0:21:21No, they don't, and especially in the health profession.

0:21:21 > 0:21:24Today we are going to cook a black fungus chicken for a mum

0:21:24 > 0:21:28who is currently practising Chinese postnatal confinement

0:21:28 > 0:21:37period in London.

0:21:37 > 0:21:39Just turning brown now.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42So, mums who are doing this don't leave the house for a whole month.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44They don't have any guests, sometimes they don't actually

0:21:44 > 0:21:48wash their hair or have a shower, and they have to eat only

0:21:48 > 0:21:49certain types of food.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51Why is this believed to be so healing for the mother?

0:21:51 > 0:21:54They believe it will reset the body, they believe in ying and yang

0:21:54 > 0:21:58and they want to keep the body warm and ignore the cold food.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00Black fungus.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02So the black fungus, they have the properties

0:22:02 > 0:22:03of cleansing the womb.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07Smells good.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10How many Chinese women that live here in the UK do you think actually

0:22:10 > 0:22:11carry confinement out?

0:22:11 > 0:22:12I think plenty.

0:22:12 > 0:22:14Plenty of them will be carrying out this confinement,

0:22:14 > 0:22:16if they have the chance.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19Basically they are just delighted that they can actually practice

0:22:19 > 0:22:25postnatal confinement the Chinese way here in the UK without shipping

0:22:25 > 0:22:27the mother or their aunt or a confinement lady

0:22:27 > 0:22:30across from Asia.

0:22:30 > 0:22:32Make it modern.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34Postnatal your way, in the city, you know?

0:22:34 > 0:22:39It's not ancient any more.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41So, for obvious reasons, we're not allowed to film

0:22:41 > 0:22:44with the mum in her house when she's doing the confinement period,

0:22:44 > 0:22:47but I have found one mum who's willing to talk to me via Skype.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50Her name's Ching, and she actually hasn't left the house

0:22:50 > 0:22:51for nearly 28 days.

0:22:51 > 0:22:52Hi, Ching.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55Hi there.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58Did it ever cross your mind to not do the confinement period?

0:22:58 > 0:23:01Not at all, actually.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04I come originally from Singapore and it's part of our culture

0:23:04 > 0:23:07to definitely do confinement, so it was more about making sure

0:23:07 > 0:23:12I can import that over to the UK since I'm doing it here.

0:23:12 > 0:23:17Being confined in your flat actually is important because, for us,

0:23:17 > 0:23:19if you don't practice it, then you are just disadvantaging

0:23:19 > 0:23:21yourself, kind of thing.

0:23:21 > 0:23:25So, your husband is English, what did he think when you told him

0:23:25 > 0:23:28you were going to go a whole month without leaving the house

0:23:28 > 0:23:29or having any visitors?

0:23:29 > 0:23:33I don't think he realised that it came with a whole set

0:23:33 > 0:23:36of practices and rules, and it was a bit difficult for him

0:23:36 > 0:23:39because he wanted to show off his baby.

0:23:39 > 0:23:42My husband didn't really know what was going when I said, "Oh,

0:23:42 > 0:23:43I need to practice confinement."

0:23:43 > 0:23:47And his family as well.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50So it is quite obvious that there's a lack of understanding or even

0:23:50 > 0:23:51awareness that it even exists.

0:23:51 > 0:23:55But I can see why it can be isolating.

0:23:55 > 0:24:00Although Ching has employed her own private health visitor,

0:24:00 > 0:24:02there is a concern confinement means babies aren't being

0:24:02 > 0:24:03seen by professionals.

0:24:03 > 0:24:06Dr Wu thinks the health of mum and baby could

0:24:06 > 0:24:07sometimes be compromised.

0:24:07 > 0:24:10New mums can often be left in isolation, and that's quite

0:24:10 > 0:24:14difficult for them to cope.

0:24:14 > 0:24:16When they have medical problems, they try to solve it

0:24:16 > 0:24:18within themselves, and sometimes that can have detrimental effects

0:24:18 > 0:24:22to the health of themselves and to the baby.

0:24:22 > 0:24:25It's almost as though we're not allowed to be sad

0:24:25 > 0:24:27or unhappy during confinement, and having negative emotions around

0:24:27 > 0:24:28the mum is almost discouraged.

0:24:28 > 0:24:38Sometimes signs of baby blues or postnatal depression are missed.

0:24:55 > 0:24:58Into adulthood, some Chinese people aren't seeking help

0:24:58 > 0:25:03because they feel they should endure problems themselves.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06They are one of the most dispersed communities in Britain,

0:25:06 > 0:25:12and when language is a barrier it makes the isolation even harder.

0:25:21 > 0:25:24I forgot, sorry.

0:25:24 > 0:25:25Cheers!

0:25:25 > 0:25:31Thank you.

0:25:31 > 0:25:35Elly Lee's worked in the catering trade in rural Worcestershire

0:25:35 > 0:25:40since moving from Hong Kong with a son and daughter in the 90s.

0:25:40 > 0:25:42She's got stage four cancer, meaning it's advanced,

0:25:42 > 0:25:47and it's spread round her body.

0:25:53 > 0:25:56TRANSLATION:It came back that the cancer had spread

0:25:56 > 0:26:01in my lungs, my liver and my sternum.

0:26:01 > 0:26:06So it was several shocks over the course of a few weeks.

0:26:06 > 0:26:08The Chinese community can have stigma around cancer,

0:26:08 > 0:26:15and some may not even tell their families.

0:26:15 > 0:26:20It was like a movie unfolding.

0:26:20 > 0:26:26It was a bit difficult to accept all of a sudden.

0:26:26 > 0:26:31I think cancer is already a really lonely experience,

0:26:31 > 0:26:34but if you feel that you're not able to attend cancer support groups,

0:26:34 > 0:26:37then it becomes more of a problem.

0:26:37 > 0:26:42I'm coming, I'm coming!

0:26:51 > 0:26:53TRANSLATION:The majority of the Chinese community here work

0:26:53 > 0:27:02predominantly in the catering trade.

0:27:02 > 0:27:04They work long hours where work takes number one,

0:27:04 > 0:27:06and health takes a back-seat.

0:27:06 > 0:27:16I'm speaking out to help Chinese people have an awareness of health.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25I feel like crying, because we're talking

0:27:25 > 0:27:28about really serious stuff, and it's really...

0:27:28 > 0:27:32It's really...

0:27:32 > 0:27:42It's really, like, a big deal for mum to be doing this.

0:27:45 > 0:27:48There is still some degree of fatalism when you hear the word

0:27:48 > 0:27:51cancer, often they associate it with death and they sometimes don't

0:27:51 > 0:27:55realise that certain cancers, if detected early or if managed

0:27:55 > 0:27:59in the right way, could be potential for cure,

0:27:59 > 0:28:02and even if the doctor asked directly, sometimes they will deny

0:28:02 > 0:28:05to say that they are in pain, when they may be in pain,

0:28:05 > 0:28:07and they feel that, if I've got cancer, it's a given,

0:28:07 > 0:28:10I should endure pain, or they will try to treat it

0:28:10 > 0:28:20with traditional Chinese medicine.

0:28:20 > 0:28:22There are certain attitudes within the Chinese community,

0:28:22 > 0:28:24especially the family members, who feel that perhaps

0:28:24 > 0:28:26information should be restricted from the patient,

0:28:26 > 0:28:35whereas the patient themselves may actually want to have all the facts.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37I came across a Chinese lady who was in her mid-50s.

0:28:37 > 0:28:41The scan showed that she had a brain tumour, and when I went

0:28:41 > 0:28:44to speak to the family, the son was there and he asked

0:28:44 > 0:28:48the mum to go out and then he said to me, "Doctor, is it cancer,

0:28:48 > 0:28:55because I really don't want my mum to know."

0:28:55 > 0:28:58It is difficult to try to convince them that, yes, we can help

0:28:58 > 0:29:00you fight the battle with cancer, but you do not need

0:29:00 > 0:29:10to suffer in the process.

0:29:20 > 0:29:25Good morning, everyone here, welcome to our centre.

0:29:25 > 0:29:31I'm here to talk to you today about dementia.

0:29:31 > 0:29:39The original, the old translation of dementia in Chinese is horrific.

0:29:39 > 0:29:41It means you are old, you're dilapidated, you've gone

0:29:41 > 0:29:48mad, you've gone nutty.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50There are a whole generation of first-generation migrants

0:29:50 > 0:29:55now living in the UK, and they are very isolated.

0:29:55 > 0:29:59The fortunate ones will have the spouse still living with them,

0:29:59 > 0:30:01but we know lots and lots of the elderly Chinese are living

0:30:01 > 0:30:05alone, and they will find it very, very difficult to actually find any

0:30:05 > 0:30:12mainstream services that cater for them, their needs.

0:30:12 > 0:30:21Six o'clock on a cold night in London.

0:30:26 > 0:30:32Mr Tang's 73 and lives on his own in a tiny bedsit.

0:30:32 > 0:30:36He's got prostate cancer, and he's decided against any treatment.

0:30:36 > 0:30:38He's in pain and he can't walk.

0:30:38 > 0:30:41Volunteer carers from the Chinese Centre come

0:30:41 > 0:30:44to see him when they can, but some days Mr Tang

0:30:44 > 0:30:46says he won't eat.

0:30:46 > 0:30:49TRANSLATION:I only went to the doctor when I had signs

0:30:49 > 0:30:53of pain when urinating.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55Only when I had trouble going to the toilet,

0:30:55 > 0:31:00I went to the doctors.

0:31:00 > 0:31:01I wouldn't go before.

0:31:01 > 0:31:04What did the doctors say to you when you chose not

0:31:04 > 0:31:08to have chemotherapy?

0:31:08 > 0:31:11TRANSLATION:One doctor tried to tell me to have chemotherapy,

0:31:11 > 0:31:15as I will certainly die if I don't.

0:31:15 > 0:31:22I said, no, as with almost all cancers you're certain to die,

0:31:22 > 0:31:30or you won't last long, as there's no cure.

0:31:31 > 0:31:35My children have grown up, left the family.

0:31:35 > 0:31:41They are well-educated, I've done my duty.

0:31:41 > 0:31:44So, even if I live longer or die, it doesn't make a difference.

0:31:44 > 0:31:47I've done my duty.

0:31:54 > 0:31:59There are elderly ladies and gentlemen who are in their own home,

0:31:59 > 0:32:01literally not going out, trying to confine the problem

0:32:01 > 0:32:03within themselves.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06They don't want to bother, let's say, an outsider with what they fear

0:32:06 > 0:32:07is their own problem.

0:32:07 > 0:32:08Are you OK?

0:32:08 > 0:32:12Yeah.

0:32:12 > 0:32:15No-one would know that you are in so much pain,

0:32:15 > 0:32:23not able to speak English to communicate with anyone.

0:32:23 > 0:32:25It must just be such a lonely experience for you.

0:32:25 > 0:32:28TRANSLATION:At one point, I thought of committing suicide.

0:32:28 > 0:32:35Because I thought, there's no hope.

0:32:40 > 0:32:41There's a clear lack of representation of

0:32:41 > 0:32:46the British Chinese in the media, politics and the arts.

0:32:46 > 0:32:50But for some in the community, that silence can deafening.

0:32:50 > 0:32:55Chinese is well known to be invisible and silent.

0:32:55 > 0:32:58We all know that that must be related to our own culture as well.

0:32:58 > 0:33:01We do not like to make complaint or make a fuss,

0:33:01 > 0:33:03even if we're not very happy with the situation.

0:33:03 > 0:33:05We're quiet, we don't make a noise.

0:33:05 > 0:33:09Politicians don't take much notice.

0:33:09 > 0:33:14Public Health England have told us they are aware some in the Chinese

0:33:14 > 0:33:16community aren't accessing health care, and say they are improving

0:33:16 > 0:33:21the way they collect information about them as a group.

0:33:21 > 0:33:24We're often grouped in a box along with other ethnicities

0:33:24 > 0:33:27on statistical data collection forms, and that means our specific

0:33:27 > 0:33:31needs are not being looked into, and the fact that we had to set up

0:33:31 > 0:33:33an online medical advisory service off our own back

0:33:33 > 0:33:36is a reflection of that.

0:33:36 > 0:33:38Just because we are silent and polite, doesn't mean

0:33:38 > 0:33:48we should be ignored.

0:33:48 > 0:33:53Karen says: It's not just Chinese mums you do this. It took me a month

0:33:53 > 0:33:57to break the outside world after my son was born after emergency

0:33:57 > 0:34:01Caesarean. You are both adapting to this time together. I don't think

0:34:01 > 0:34:06it's unique or an unusual process for new parents. Trevor says girl on

0:34:06 > 0:34:09my daughter-in-law is Chinese. She did not mention or comply with this

0:34:09 > 0:34:12tradition and was active within a couple of days of giving birth.

0:34:12 > 0:34:15In the next half hour we are going to talk to Eddie Tang

0:34:15 > 0:34:20whose family shunned him when his son got cancer as a child

0:34:20 > 0:34:24And to a woman whose mum refused to seek help for cervical cancer until

0:34:24 > 0:34:28she collapsed one day. She has asked to remain anonymous because she

0:34:28 > 0:34:32thinks there may be a backlash from her family for speaking out. This

0:34:32 > 0:34:35story came from a viewer who contacted me. If you think there is

0:34:35 > 0:34:39a story or issue we should potentially look at, please send us

0:34:39 > 0:34:40an e-mail.

0:34:40 > 0:34:47Still to come:

0:34:47 > 0:34:51As fears grow for British- Iranian mum Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe grow,

0:34:51 > 0:34:56we will hear the latest on her detention from her husband Richard.

0:34:56 > 0:34:59And as business leaders from around Europe prepared to meet Theresa May,

0:34:59 > 0:35:02we will hear from both sides of the Brexit divide.

0:35:02 > 0:35:12Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

0:35:19 > 0:35:26Business leaders will be in Downing Street to press the Government to

0:35:26 > 0:35:29clarify the future relationship between the UK and the rest of the

0:35:29 > 0:35:41EU and to demand that they maintain current arrangements.

0:35:45 > 0:35:48An earthquake has killed more than 300 people in Iran -

0:35:48 > 0:35:49more than 2500 have been injured.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51Another four people have been killed in Iraq.

0:35:51 > 0:35:54The quake hit the border area between the two countries,

0:35:54 > 0:35:56around 30 kilometres south of Halabja, with a magnitude of 7.3.

0:35:56 > 0:36:00It was so powerful, it was felt as far away as Lebanon and Turkey.

0:36:00 > 0:36:01The family of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe,

0:36:01 > 0:36:03the British-Iranian woman jailed in Tehran, say they're increasingly

0:36:03 > 0:36:04concerned about her wellbeing.

0:36:04 > 0:36:07In a statement last night her husband Richard said his wife

0:36:07 > 0:36:09appeared to be "on the verge of a nervous breakdown"

0:36:09 > 0:36:12and is seeking treatment after finding lumps in her breasts.

0:36:12 > 0:36:13The Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, and his cabinet

0:36:13 > 0:36:16colleague Michael Gove have both been criticised for their

0:36:16 > 0:36:19comments about the case.

0:36:19 > 0:36:22Bob Geldof says he is handing back his Freedom of the City of Dublin -

0:36:22 > 0:36:25because the same honour has been granted to the Burmese political

0:36:25 > 0:36:27leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

0:36:27 > 0:36:28He's described the treatment by Myanmar's military

0:36:28 > 0:36:30of the Rohingya Muslim minority community as "mass

0:36:30 > 0:36:32ethnic cleansing."

0:36:32 > 0:36:36The Live Aid organiser said his home city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi -

0:36:36 > 0:36:43but now she had appalled and shamed Dublin.

0:36:43 > 0:36:51That is a summary of the latest news.

0:36:51 > 0:36:57Thank you for your e-mails and tweet about stress. New research suggests

0:36:57 > 0:37:03that four out of five of us are stressed each week. A woman says,

0:37:03 > 0:37:07after being made redundant through every job I've had through company

0:37:07 > 0:37:10closures, I am currently in a job I don't enjoy. Through that and other

0:37:10 > 0:37:17things I am stressed on a daily basis. I am starting my own

0:37:17 > 0:37:20business, in course, and relaxing in a hot bubble bath every night. I am

0:37:20 > 0:37:26trying to invest in my own happiness. And a couple more fun

0:37:26 > 0:37:32now, Kayla says, when I'm stressed that, I lie on my bed with my eyes

0:37:32 > 0:37:36closed and I listen to some ocean music. When they introduced that on

0:37:36 > 0:37:45this programme soon. Whalley says, I divert focus from myself. I swim

0:37:45 > 0:37:49frequently, Dahlia possible, learned to play a musical instrument and

0:37:49 > 0:37:53join a band or orchestra. Do jobs in the garden or care for my house

0:37:53 > 0:37:57plans. Have someone to love and work hard to ensure that that person

0:37:57 > 0:38:02loves you. Thank you for those. Keep them coming in. We are interested to

0:38:02 > 0:38:06hear how you manage your stress how you try to de-stress. If you want to

0:38:06 > 0:38:15have a chat about how he do it, put call me in e-mail. Type a spot now.

0:38:15 > 0:38:18We start with Northern Ireland, because as we heard, they won't be

0:38:18 > 0:38:23going to Russia next summer after their goalless draw with

0:38:23 > 0:38:28Switzerland. Their manager Michael O'Neill described their performance

0:38:28 > 0:38:34is amazing. Katie Archibald and Elinor Barker

0:38:34 > 0:38:39got their second winds of the weekend in team pursuit.

0:38:39 > 0:38:42Lewis Hamilton was driver of the day at the Brazilian Grand Prix. He

0:38:42 > 0:38:46started last in the race but finished fourth, as Sebastian Vettel

0:38:46 > 0:38:51took the honours. And Roger Federer opened with a

0:38:51 > 0:38:58straight sets win over Jack Sock at the ATP tour finals in London. At

0:38:58 > 0:39:02the age of 36, Roger Federer is playing in this event for the 15th

0:39:02 > 0:39:07time. That is always my answer to beating stress, Victoria - get out

0:39:07 > 0:39:14and take some exercise. And a lot of people agree with you!

0:39:14 > 0:39:15The husband of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe -

0:39:15 > 0:39:18the British woman jailed in Iran - says the Foreign Secretary,

0:39:18 > 0:39:21Boris Johnson, has told him he's considering whether she could be

0:39:21 > 0:39:22granted "diplomatic protection" status.

0:39:22 > 0:39:24Her family say she's on the verge of a nervous breakdown,

0:39:24 > 0:39:32and has seen doctors about lumps in her breasts.

0:39:32 > 0:39:35In April 2016, Nazanin was arrested while visiting Iran to visit family

0:39:35 > 0:39:39and for her daughter to meet her grandparents.

0:39:39 > 0:39:42On the 1st of November Mr Johnson wrongly said she had been training

0:39:42 > 0:39:48journalists in Iran.

0:39:48 > 0:39:52When you look at what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, it's

0:39:52 > 0:39:59just, she was simply teaching people journalism, as I understand it.Four

0:39:59 > 0:40:03days later, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was re-called to court in Iran. Mr

0:40:03 > 0:40:07Johnson's remark was cited as new evidence against her, prompting

0:40:07 > 0:40:13fears that her five-year jail sentence could be extended. By the

0:40:13 > 0:40:167th of November, Boris Johnson was forced to clarify his remarks to MPs

0:40:16 > 0:40:23and said he was sorry if his remarks caused anxiety.The UK Government

0:40:23 > 0:40:28has no doubt that she was on holiday in Iran when she was arrested last

0:40:28 > 0:40:33year, and that was the sole purpose of her visit. I accept that my

0:40:33 > 0:40:39remarks could have been clearer in that respect, and I'm glad to

0:40:39 > 0:40:43provide this clarification.On Saturday, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's

0:40:43 > 0:40:47family said she was taken to hospital for an ultrasound, saying

0:40:47 > 0:40:51she had been complaining of sharp stabbing pains in her breasts for

0:40:51 > 0:40:55more than a year. Yesterday, the environment secretary came under

0:40:55 > 0:40:59fire for saying he didn't know what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing

0:40:59 > 0:41:04in Iran when she was arrested in 2016. Speaking in Brussels this

0:41:04 > 0:41:08morning, Boris Johnson says the case as the be handled sensitively.The

0:41:08 > 0:41:14key thing to understand is that we're working very, very hard and

0:41:14 > 0:41:17intensively, and impartially, on all those cases. Thank you very much.

0:41:17 > 0:41:23Thank you. See you later. Thank you. I've been speaking to Richard

0:41:23 > 0:41:31Radcliffe, who told me he felt compelled to e-mail the foreign

0:41:31 > 0:41:35office.Following Michael Gove's comments, which I didn't pick up on

0:41:35 > 0:41:45and the time -- at the time, so I wrote to our main contact the

0:41:45 > 0:41:47foreign office and said, listen, can you please remind all cabinet

0:41:47 > 0:41:52members that the UK Government has no doubt that Nazanin was there on

0:41:52 > 0:41:56holiday? That is the UK policy and it is not my job to police, but

0:41:56 > 0:42:00these things shouldn't be spread around. Let's be honest, it's

0:42:00 > 0:42:04unlikely that Michael Gove's comments would suddenly be appearing

0:42:04 > 0:42:08in the Iranians media, but if it goes to trial, they collect all this

0:42:08 > 0:42:12evidence and it gets piled up. Obviously, the most important person

0:42:12 > 0:42:16at this point is the Foreign Secretary, who is the voice and

0:42:16 > 0:42:22presence of the UK. It is important that the battles for Nazanin, and it

0:42:22 > 0:42:24was important that he clarified. Less important for Michael Gove to

0:42:24 > 0:42:29do it.Michael Gove is the environment secretary, and he was

0:42:29 > 0:42:33asked about your wife's case yesterday on the Andrew Marr

0:42:33 > 0:42:36programme. I want to play the relevant clip of the audience so

0:42:36 > 0:42:40they know what we're talking about. What was she doing when she went to

0:42:40 > 0:42:44Iran?I don't know. One of the things I want to stress is that

0:42:44 > 0:42:50there is no reason why Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe should be

0:42:50 > 0:42:54imprisoned in Iran as far as any of us know. No evidence has been

0:42:54 > 0:42:59produced which suggests she should be detained. We know the Iranians

0:42:59 > 0:43:02regime is capable of abusing the human rights of its own citizens. It

0:43:02 > 0:43:06appears here to be harming the human rights of someone whose plight

0:43:06 > 0:43:10necessarily moves us all.You say you don't know what she was doing.

0:43:10 > 0:43:13Her husband is clear that she was on holiday with her child.In her case,

0:43:13 > 0:43:20I take -- in that case, I take her husband's assurance in that regard.

0:43:20 > 0:43:23The problem with that exchanges that Mr Gove said he did not know why

0:43:23 > 0:43:27your wife was there. You said you did not see that interview live, but

0:43:27 > 0:43:31members of your family were pretty cross.And it was picked up on in

0:43:31 > 0:43:35social media and lots of other people were responding. What he says

0:43:35 > 0:43:40is reasonable and helpful, it's just the emphatic, I don't know, at the

0:43:40 > 0:43:45beginning. And the fact that he says he is happy to take my word for it.

0:43:45 > 0:43:47The Foreign Secretary said in Parliament that the UK Government

0:43:47 > 0:43:53has no doubt.Were you surprised? Mr Gove is usually very precise with

0:43:53 > 0:44:00his words, very well briefed.So much happened that there were bigger

0:44:00 > 0:44:03things. I spoke to the Foreign Secretary. It's the first time I've

0:44:03 > 0:44:14done that in a long time. That is not an intimidating. -- that is not

0:44:14 > 0:44:19not intimidating.In terms of your conversation with the Foreign

0:44:19 > 0:44:23Secretary, did he apologise for his inaccurate, it's a couple of weeks

0:44:23 > 0:44:26ago which could potentially make your wife's situation and jail

0:44:26 > 0:44:32sentence longer?He didn't mention the comments. He said he was sorry

0:44:32 > 0:44:36for Nazanin's suffering and that all the country was behind her. We

0:44:36 > 0:44:40talked about meeting soon. We talked about me going to Iran with him and

0:44:40 > 0:44:44he said he would look at it seriously. I asked him to look at

0:44:44 > 0:44:46him personally offering her diplomatic protection, which would

0:44:46 > 0:44:50mean that there would be much more protection given to her by the

0:44:50 > 0:44:53British Government.Are you surprised that it has taken this

0:44:53 > 0:44:57long for the Foreign Secretary to pick up the phone?I've been

0:44:57 > 0:45:01complaining on your show and others that I want the Government to be

0:45:01 > 0:45:07doing more, and publicly will stop the foreign office have been saying

0:45:07 > 0:45:12they think it is important that they don't.It has taken a gaffe for the

0:45:12 > 0:45:15Foreign Secretary to pick up the phone to you.We are in a different

0:45:15 > 0:45:19place now, clearly, where his words are being used by the Iranians, and

0:45:19 > 0:45:23it is important that he stands up for her, that I stand alongside him,

0:45:23 > 0:45:28and that together, we try to bring her home as soon as possible.Did Mr

0:45:28 > 0:45:31Johnson give your potential timescale when it comes of this --

0:45:31 > 0:45:36comes to this possibility of a trip to Iran?He said, let's meet in a

0:45:36 > 0:45:40few days and we can talk about it. I imagine, when we come to meet, it

0:45:40 > 0:45:44will be clearer.Is the meeting scheduled?Not yet, but hopefully

0:45:44 > 0:45:49soon.Let's talk about the health of your wife, because you say that

0:45:49 > 0:45:52lumps have been found in both her breast. What other information do

0:45:52 > 0:46:05you have?Exactly that. She had a mammography a few months ago. You

0:46:05 > 0:46:11have two fight quite hard to get outside services. She was told by

0:46:11 > 0:46:15the specialist that they thought it was OK but she should probably come

0:46:15 > 0:46:23back. But this needs to be tucked up on. Beyond that, I am holding on to

0:46:23 > 0:46:27the specialist saying it is probably benign, and let's take it from

0:46:27 > 0:46:33there. I'm much more sensitive to this, sort of, wider, I don't know,

0:46:33 > 0:46:38emotional... I said a number of times that I'm on the verge of a

0:46:38 > 0:46:42nervous breakdown. -- she said a number of times. She is very up and

0:46:42 > 0:46:46down. There were times on the phone yesterday where she was laughing,

0:46:46 > 0:46:49really angry, and crying Comanche talks about not being able to

0:46:49 > 0:46:57control her emotions. She gets angry over the smallest things. -- and

0:46:57 > 0:47:03crying, and she talks about. I think it is what has happened in the last

0:47:03 > 0:47:08few months, and compounded by what happened over the last couple of

0:47:08 > 0:47:14weeks, watching our family being used to propagate her as a spy. Then

0:47:14 > 0:47:19fellow prisoners ask why are you on the TV all the time, what about us?

0:47:19 > 0:47:26You mean it has lent to resentment? Yes, because nobody has an easy life

0:47:26 > 0:47:31there, everybody takes it as they can and that is where it is.How did

0:47:31 > 0:47:36she react to Mr Johnson's errors? She was pretty cross. She said

0:47:36 > 0:47:43things I could not repeat on television. She also, you know, was

0:47:43 > 0:47:47angry. Angry with me, angry with the campaign, angry with the government

0:47:47 > 0:47:50having done nothing, then the government messing up. She's just

0:47:50 > 0:47:59angry that it is unfair.You hope your wife will be released on

0:47:59 > 0:48:02humanitarian grounds, potentially because of the recent health

0:48:02 > 0:48:08problems you have just described, how realistic is that?It's hard to

0:48:08 > 0:48:14know what's realistic at all. It's certainly possible. It is certainly

0:48:14 > 0:48:17important I keep battling and that the government keeps battling. If

0:48:17 > 0:48:22you go back one month we were having noise is being said, listen, she

0:48:22 > 0:48:27will be eligible for humanitarian release, and she would be entitled

0:48:27 > 0:48:31to it next week -- eligible for it next week. Really, I will hold on to

0:48:31 > 0:48:35that and I will hope the Foreign Secretary is able to engage, focus,

0:48:35 > 0:48:44and worked his magic and bring her home.Before Christmas?Yes.

0:48:44 > 0:48:46The Prime Minister will meet leaders from European business organisations

0:48:46 > 0:48:48today as the UK prepares to leave the EU.

0:48:48 > 0:48:51The business leaders are expected to demand an urgent breakthrough

0:48:51 > 0:48:53on Brexit from Theresa May to kick start the stalled

0:48:53 > 0:48:54negotiations in Brussels.

0:48:54 > 0:48:56Over the weekend, the EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier,

0:48:56 > 0:49:00said he was preparing for the possible collapse

0:49:00 > 0:49:02of negotiations with the UK, but said he hoped it

0:49:02 > 0:49:03wouldn't happen.

0:49:03 > 0:49:06Today the Prime Minister will again talk about the UK's commitment

0:49:06 > 0:49:09to securing an implementation period of around two years once Britain

0:49:09 > 0:49:11leaves the EU in March 2019.

0:49:11 > 0:49:18Our political correspondent Chris Mason is in Westminster for us.

0:49:18 > 0:49:24Let's talk about the bigger picture, which is Mrs May is weak, she has a

0:49:24 > 0:49:27lot on her hands, trying to sort out Brexit and trying to appease the

0:49:27 > 0:49:33competing interest in her own party, hasn't she?She has. This whole

0:49:33 > 0:49:36issue of Brexit is going to become again, front and centre this week

0:49:36 > 0:49:41after a couple of weeks of it not dominating the headlines as it has

0:49:41 > 0:49:46for the best part of the last two years. Yet, Theresa May, which ever

0:49:46 > 0:49:51way she looks, has compromises to consider and arms to twist. You look

0:49:51 > 0:49:54at the conclusion of that round of talks in Brussels at the ten end of

0:49:54 > 0:50:01last week between Michel Barnier and David Davis, there wasn't some huge

0:50:01 > 0:50:06leap forward. There is optimism that come the next summit in Brussels it

0:50:06 > 0:50:12could be that the three issues being looked at at the moment around the

0:50:12 > 0:50:16divorce of the Irish border, and the divorce settlement will make

0:50:16 > 0:50:19sufficient progress to allow movement onto the next stage. At the

0:50:19 > 0:50:22same time, and there were headlines over the weekend that illustrated

0:50:22 > 0:50:28this, that the Prime Minister has to keep her country and her party

0:50:28 > 0:50:33onside. Ultimately because this was a binary referendum forcing people

0:50:33 > 0:50:37to fall on one side or the other, but reaching some agreement as to

0:50:37 > 0:50:40compete with the common interests of those inclined one way and those

0:50:40 > 0:50:45inclined the other. But compromise is something that everybody will

0:50:45 > 0:50:51find easy to swallow.Thanks very much. Wait, let me ask you about the

0:50:51 > 0:50:55report yesterday in one of the Sunday papers that around 40

0:50:55 > 0:50:58Conservative MPs are ready to sign a letter, emotion, a letter of no

0:50:58 > 0:51:03confidence, I should say, in the PM, not enough to trigger any kind of

0:51:03 > 0:51:08leadership contest. But do you think it's true?Westminster is a postcode

0:51:08 > 0:51:12which perpetually harms to the sound of gossip. You get these figures

0:51:12 > 0:51:15which float around now and again. We had similar numbers which were

0:51:15 > 0:51:20kicked around in the immediate aftermath of the cough -fest which

0:51:20 > 0:51:24was the Prime Minister's conference speech a couple of weeks ago.

0:51:24 > 0:51:28Depending on who you speak to. Some people dismiss that figure out of

0:51:28 > 0:51:32hand. Others entertain it might be broadly right. Crucially it isn't

0:51:32 > 0:51:35sufficient to clear the threshold that will be required to imperil

0:51:35 > 0:51:41Theresa May's position. But we could park all of those numbers. The

0:51:41 > 0:51:45simple reality is that Theresa May knows that after the general

0:51:45 > 0:51:50election, in which she hopes to stride forwards, but in reality

0:51:50 > 0:51:54crunched backwards, is that she governs at the consent of her

0:51:54 > 0:52:00parliamentary party. -- she hoped to stride forward. If senior members

0:52:00 > 0:52:05say your time is up, then she is a corner. But the clock is ticking

0:52:05 > 0:52:14down. There is a complete lack and -- lack of agreement about who she

0:52:14 > 0:52:18would be replaced by if she toppled. But you hear the argument that she

0:52:18 > 0:52:23might be weak but she can also be stable, because those forces, the

0:52:23 > 0:52:27challenge of Brexit, the absence of an obvious successor, might just

0:52:27 > 0:52:33hold her in place despite everything.Thanks, weak but stable,

0:52:33 > 0:52:38that's the Prime Minister, said Chris, but not christen himself. --

0:52:38 > 0:52:42but not Chris himself.

0:52:42 > 0:52:44Edwin Morgan, from the Institute of Directors, whose colleagues

0:52:44 > 0:52:46will be at the meeting with Theresa May, Labour MP

0:52:46 > 0:52:48Mary Creagh a remainer, and Conservative MP

0:52:48 > 0:52:50Michael Fabricant a Brexiteer.

0:52:50 > 0:52:59Good morning. Edwin, do your members comedy businesses, have any clarity

0:52:59 > 0:53:03on the transitional deal that we are facing, any clarity on the end trade

0:53:03 > 0:53:11deal that we seek? -- do your members, businesses.We don't. It's

0:53:11 > 0:53:14a serious problem for businesses because they need to know in the

0:53:14 > 0:53:18next three months, latest, watch the transition deal is going to look

0:53:18 > 0:53:22like. They need to know that so they can find. If we get that agreed

0:53:22 > 0:53:27pretty soon that will settle the nerves and enable businesses not to

0:53:27 > 0:53:31trigger any serious contingency plans now. It's in the government's

0:53:31 > 0:53:34interest to say to businesses, this is what it will look like, this will

0:53:34 > 0:53:42be the status quo in March 2019, you won't have to move any of your

0:53:42 > 0:53:46operations, move your staff... Businesses do not want to map

0:53:46 > 0:53:52adjustments. An adjustment to a new transitional deal, and an adjustment

0:53:52 > 0:54:00to the Brexit deal. -- do not want two adjustments.Exactly. Just got

0:54:00 > 0:54:04to be given a bit of time to say, look, this is the final position you

0:54:04 > 0:54:09will be in. Get used to it, check your systems if you must, and make

0:54:09 > 0:54:14your processes as smooth as you can. Baby is a suggestion of a bridge to

0:54:14 > 0:54:19something else, a Brexit deal for example, but what if there isn't

0:54:19 > 0:54:24one? -- there is a suggestion.That would be bad from a business point

0:54:24 > 0:54:30of view. Most of our members don't even know what world trade deals

0:54:30 > 0:54:34would look like with new customs procedures. Frankly there is a big

0:54:34 > 0:54:38job for businesses to prepare anyway. But really they don't want

0:54:38 > 0:54:44that crashed out scenario from where we are now, which is very integrated

0:54:44 > 0:54:49to just like everywhere else in the world.Michael Fabricant, time seems

0:54:49 > 0:54:54to be running out for a transitional deal and a Brexit deal, would you

0:54:54 > 0:55:00agree?Yes, and everybody expected that. I used to set up radio

0:55:00 > 0:55:05stations all round the world, and Chris Mason got it right, he said

0:55:05 > 0:55:08there is arm-twisting to do and compromises to be made.Why doesn't

0:55:08 > 0:55:17the Prime Minister do something to get things moving?If we did that we

0:55:17 > 0:55:20would be offering something more than perhaps we needed to do. Let's

0:55:20 > 0:55:25talk about the plight of British people in Europe, living in Europe.

0:55:25 > 0:55:29We are saying we want to guarantee the rights of people from the

0:55:29 > 0:55:34European Union...That's not the major sticking point...It's one of

0:55:34 > 0:55:38them...Theresa May has offered 20 billion euros, that's not enough, so

0:55:38 > 0:55:45why do she not up it and then trade talks can begin?Because I don't

0:55:45 > 0:55:49think negotiation is surrendering. You could set off a 100 billion, 200

0:55:49 > 0:55:53billion, do you think the taxpayer would find that practical?You have

0:55:53 > 0:55:57got to be practical of the time limit for a good trade deal.

0:55:57 > 0:56:02Negotiations take time. Don't forget, the United Kingdom isn't

0:56:02 > 0:56:08picked on Steyn or Andorra, or even Luxembourg, the UK is the major

0:56:08 > 0:56:12importer of German cars and four French agriculture in Europe. -- the

0:56:12 > 0:56:20United Kingdom isn't Lichtenstein. Time is not only tough on ours. It

0:56:20 > 0:56:24is. And it is also tough on the Europeans, as well, and we have got

0:56:24 > 0:56:29to work on this. -- time is not only tough on us.Should the Prime

0:56:29 > 0:56:34Minister negotiate for more time? You can't do that.You can, you can

0:56:34 > 0:56:41just put it into words!The Lisbon Treaty says it will be the 19th of

0:56:41 > 0:56:46March 2000 19. But we will have a transition period. 11 o'clock in the

0:56:46 > 0:56:54evening, perhaps. -- March 2019. We have signed something, we need to

0:56:54 > 0:56:58stick to that.What needs to happen to get talks started again?Theresa

0:56:58 > 0:57:01May needs to get her cabinet in order. Michel Barnier doesn't care

0:57:01 > 0:57:08about what happens in the Cabinet. Well it does.It makes no

0:57:08 > 0:57:12difference. We have a worrying situation where our EU negotiating

0:57:12 > 0:57:15partners are concerned Theresa May may not be in there in eight weeks'

0:57:15 > 0:57:19time. Her confidence has been drained and authority shattered.

0:57:19 > 0:57:23Does not look good for her. We have a cabinet within a cabinet with

0:57:23 > 0:57:29Michael Gove and Boris Johnson trying to do this Orwellian grip of

0:57:29 > 0:57:36people not internalising the logical Brexit. We have two resignations.

0:57:36 > 0:57:38Another two cabinet ministers whose position hangs in the balance. She

0:57:38 > 0:57:42is weak. She needs to get on with David Davis and get down to the

0:57:42 > 0:57:47financials you have been talking about. Exit day is the 29th of

0:57:47 > 0:57:55March, not the 19th of March... Whatever.Should Mrs May ask for

0:57:55 > 0:58:00Article 50 to be extended, should she ask for more time?She needs

0:58:00 > 0:58:07more time.Would it be a good idea? I think so.Brexiteers and people

0:58:07 > 0:58:11who voted for Brexit think that when you suggest it might be a good idea

0:58:11 > 0:58:15to extend the time, the timeline, then what you are actually trying to

0:58:15 > 0:58:20do is put off leaving.What I'm trying to do is to safeguard the

0:58:20 > 0:58:25jobs and incomes of people in my constituency. I visited a bedding

0:58:25 > 0:58:29manufacturer in my constituency on Friday whose prices have gone up 30%

0:58:29 > 0:58:31since the referendum. They are finding it impossible to hire

0:58:31 > 0:58:39people. That's one business in one constituency.That is to do with

0:58:39 > 0:58:43employment...That's because after the referendum, four of their

0:58:43 > 0:58:46employees shut up shop and went back to Poland.They didn't have to do

0:58:46 > 0:58:52that.Nobody told them that. This is the culture that has been created in

0:58:52 > 0:58:56the post-referendum climate. People think the pound has gone down 25%, I

0:58:56 > 0:59:01can earn more money in Ireland... The post-referendum climate for some

0:59:01 > 0:59:05people is that they suspect Brexit is going to be betrayed and you are

0:59:05 > 0:59:10the kind of person who wants to do that.I want to see a good deal for

0:59:10 > 0:59:15British jobs, British manufacturers, and the British economy.Weren't you

0:59:15 > 0:59:22arguing we should join the euro? Exactly the same...I don't want to

0:59:22 > 0:59:25go back into history...Want to make sure that chemical businesses, our

0:59:25 > 0:59:29second largest export in this country, are able to trade on the

0:59:29 > 0:59:3229th of March. Your government is unable to tell the chemicals

0:59:32 > 0:59:38industry, our second largest manufacturer...Because it is

0:59:38 > 0:59:43negotiations... You would surrender everything...It's not about

0:59:43 > 0:59:48surrendering, it isn't a war, it is a negotiation...And a negotiation

0:59:48 > 0:59:53does not mean agreeing to everything you want...What about the chemicals

0:59:53 > 0:59:58industry...They are in business, the chemicals industry is...One in

0:59:58 > 1:00:02five businesses has already made moves to move abroad. Rather than

1:00:02 > 1:00:07getting on some sort of nationalistic...Hang on a minute...

1:00:07 > 1:00:12It's to do with pragmatism...You have both major points. Are you one

1:00:12 > 1:00:16of the 40 Conservative MPs considering signing this?I don't

1:00:16 > 1:00:22even think there are 40.How many do you think there are?I was a

1:00:22 > 1:00:26government whip. Even in the days of David Cameron there were usually 12,

1:00:26 > 1:00:3015, almost a given.What would you say to your colleagues who are

1:00:30 > 1:00:35thinking of signing this no-confidence letter?I would say,

1:00:35 > 1:00:37let's have some stability. Jeremy Corbyn survived when his entire

1:00:37 > 1:00:45cabinet more or less to resign. We can all agree that we want a good

1:00:45 > 1:00:54deal for the United Kingdom out of Brexit.OK, thank you.

1:00:54 > 1:00:58We will bring you the latest news and sport in a minute, but first,

1:00:58 > 1:00:59the weather.

1:01:03 > 1:01:09A Chilean frosty start this morning, the third chilly Monday in a row.

1:01:09 > 1:01:12There was brightness in the south this morning, which meant it was

1:01:12 > 1:01:16possible to see Venus and Jupiter first thing. -- HAV and frosty

1:01:16 > 1:01:30start. -- a chilly and frosty start. Some of this rain coming into the

1:01:30 > 1:01:37high North West of Scotland could fall as snow at higher ground.

1:01:37 > 1:01:41Largely dry and bright with sunshine in the south, turning increasingly

1:01:41 > 1:01:47hazy due to high level cloud. At 3pm, outbreaks of rain pushing in

1:01:47 > 1:01:52from the north-west. The wind will have up as well, Misty and murky

1:01:52 > 1:01:56conditions and cool temperatures. Outbreaks of rain for Northern

1:01:56 > 1:02:00Ireland as well. A bit patchy rain pushing into the far north of

1:02:00 > 1:02:06England, but elsewhere, largely dry and bright. A little high level

1:02:06 > 1:02:14cloud will turn the sunshine hazy. It doesn't feel quite as cool as

1:02:14 > 1:02:19yesterday. The rain starts to work its way south and east overnight,

1:02:19 > 1:02:24pushing its way into central England. Either side of it, we will

1:02:24 > 1:02:29see clearer skies, allowing the temperatures to fall away slightly.

1:02:29 > 1:02:33It is this weather front slowly sinking its way south that will

1:02:33 > 1:02:41bring with it some milder air. Not as chilly a night as we saw last

1:02:41 > 1:02:45night. Tomorrow won't be quite as Chile either. We are drawing in

1:02:45 > 1:02:48milder air from the south-west. Tomorrow starts bright in Scotland

1:02:48 > 1:02:54with sunny spells and showers. One or two back showers, largely in the

1:02:54 > 1:02:59north, turning more frequent in the afternoon. A cloudy day for Northern

1:02:59 > 1:03:03Ireland, England and Wales, with outbreaks of rain and drizzle.

1:03:03 > 1:03:07Temperatures will be milder, in double figures. A bright start in

1:03:07 > 1:03:13Scotland on Wednesday, but more clout than outbreaks of rain.

1:03:13 > 1:03:21Temperatures in double figures in the South. On Thursday, a cold front

1:03:21 > 1:03:24sinks South East, bringing outbreaks of rain to the north-west for a

1:03:24 > 1:03:31time. It will alter in -- also bring in cooler air. Feeling cool again by

1:03:31 > 1:03:35Friday.

1:03:35 > 1:03:41Hello it's Monday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:03:41 > 1:03:44The husband of a British woman being held in Iran has told this

1:03:44 > 1:03:46programme she's close to a mental breakdown and is having

1:03:46 > 1:03:47tests for breast cancer.

1:03:47 > 1:03:49Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe was arrested last year accused

1:03:49 > 1:03:56of trying to overthrow the regime.

1:03:56 > 1:04:00Her husband told us how the implication of comments made by

1:04:00 > 1:04:04environment Secretary Michael Gove could affect the case.It is not

1:04:04 > 1:04:09likely that the comments will appear in Iranians media, but if they go to

1:04:09 > 1:04:13trial, they collect this evidence and it gets piled up. The most

1:04:13 > 1:04:16important person is the Foreign Secretary, who is the voice and

1:04:16 > 1:04:21presence of the UK. It is important that he battles for Nazanin.In the

1:04:21 > 1:04:25next half an hour, we will talk to a former Iranians diplomat who was a

1:04:25 > 1:04:28minister in the country's Foreign Ministry, and a former British

1:04:28 > 1:04:39ambassador to Iran.

1:04:39 > 1:04:41Also - in Britain, they're the silent minority -

1:04:41 > 1:04:43Chinese people rarely feature in the national conversation;

1:04:43 > 1:04:45but we've learned that their silence in sharing health problems

1:04:45 > 1:04:47with their families and accessing health services can be

1:04:47 > 1:04:49a matter of life and death.

1:04:49 > 1:04:51TRANSLATION:The Chinese community can have stigma around cancer, and

1:04:51 > 1:04:52some may not even tell their families.

1:04:52 > 1:04:55We'll speak to a woman who lost her mum to cervical cancer,

1:04:55 > 1:05:04and a Chinese community support worker about attitudes to illness.

1:05:04 > 1:05:11At least 300 people are killed and thousands more are injured in an

1:05:11 > 1:05:18earthquake on the border between Iran and Iraq. Good morning.

1:05:18 > 1:05:22Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

1:05:22 > 1:05:25Business leaders from across Europe will be in Downing Street today

1:05:25 > 1:05:27to voice their concerns about trade after Brexit.

1:05:27 > 1:05:30The CBI and the Institute of Directors will be represented -

1:05:30 > 1:05:32as will business organisations from Germany, France,

1:05:32 > 1:05:36Spain and seven other countries.

1:05:36 > 1:05:39They will press the government to clarify the future relationship

1:05:39 > 1:05:42between the UK and the rest of the EU - and demand they maintain

1:05:42 > 1:05:44current arrangements.

1:05:44 > 1:05:47A powerful earthquake has killed more than three hundred

1:05:47 > 1:05:48people in western Iran.

1:05:48 > 1:05:58Thousands more have been injured.

1:06:01 > 1:06:03The epicentre of the quake which measured 7.3

1:06:03 > 1:06:05was across the border in Iraq.

1:06:05 > 1:06:07Electricity has been cut in a number of towns and villages,

1:06:07 > 1:06:10and blocked roads are said to be preventing some rescue teams

1:06:10 > 1:06:11from reaching areas affected.

1:06:11 > 1:06:12The family of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe,

1:06:12 > 1:06:14the British-Iranian woman jailed in Tehran, say they're increasingly

1:06:14 > 1:06:19concerned about her wellbeing.

1:06:19 > 1:06:22In a statement last night her husband Richard said his wife

1:06:22 > 1:06:24appeared to be "on the verge of a nervous breakdown"

1:06:24 > 1:06:27and is seeking treatment after finding lumps in her breasts.

1:06:27 > 1:06:29The Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, and his cabinet

1:06:29 > 1:06:31colleague Michael Gove have both been criticised for their

1:06:31 > 1:06:32comments about the case.

1:06:32 > 1:06:35The key thing to understand is that we're working very very hard and

1:06:35 > 1:06:37intensively and impartially on all those cases.

1:06:37 > 1:06:38Thank you very much.

1:06:38 > 1:06:39Thank you.

1:06:39 > 1:06:40See you later.

1:06:40 > 1:06:41Thank you.

1:06:41 > 1:06:45Bob Geldof says he is handing back his Freedom of the City of Dublin -

1:06:45 > 1:06:47because the same honour has been granted to the Burmese political

1:06:47 > 1:06:48leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

1:06:48 > 1:06:51He's described the treatment by Myanmar's military

1:06:51 > 1:06:53of the Rohingya Muslim minority community as "mass

1:06:53 > 1:06:56ethnic cleansing."

1:06:56 > 1:07:00The Live Aid organiser said his home city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi -

1:07:00 > 1:07:05but now she had appalled and shamed Dublin.

1:07:05 > 1:07:09Hundreds of people have marched in Hollywood in support of victims

1:07:09 > 1:07:11of sexual assault and harassment, inspired by the 'MeToo'

1:07:11 > 1:07:14social media campaign.

1:07:14 > 1:07:16The march follows a series of assault and harassment

1:07:16 > 1:07:19allegations against public figures, set off by revelations about

1:07:19 > 1:07:23the movie mogul Harvey Weinstein.

1:07:23 > 1:07:25The marchers started on Hollywood Boulevard and walked

1:07:25 > 1:07:28along the "Walk of Fame" to CNN's headquarters.

1:07:28 > 1:07:30The Church of England is telling its schools that

1:07:30 > 1:07:32children should be free to explore their identity and both

1:07:32 > 1:07:35boys and girls should be allowed to wear a tutu,

1:07:35 > 1:07:36tiara or superhero cloak without judgement from

1:07:36 > 1:07:40teachers or other pupils.

1:07:40 > 1:07:43The new guidelines aim to prevent children being bullied

1:07:43 > 1:07:51because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

1:07:51 > 1:08:01The report says school should ensure they have an inclusive view for

1:08:01 > 1:08:04education and make sure that all children are respected.

1:08:04 > 1:08:06Jupiter and Venus - the two brightest planets -

1:08:06 > 1:08:08have been appearing very close together in the morning sky.

1:08:08 > 1:08:11Both have been visible to the naked eye across the UK.

1:08:11 > 1:08:13The best viewing time was 40 minutes before sunrise.

1:08:13 > 1:08:15While the planets are visible to the naked eye, viewers

1:08:15 > 1:08:18with a telescope have also been able to see Jupiter's

1:08:18 > 1:08:19four Galilean moons.

1:08:19 > 1:08:26That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

1:08:26 > 1:08:29Thanks for your messages about stress and how you manage it. We

1:08:29 > 1:08:34will talk about it more at 1030 AM. Research out today suggest that four

1:08:34 > 1:08:40out of five of us get stressed every week. As it is Monday morning, a

1:08:40 > 1:08:43number of you are already stressed. Not necessarily the fault of our

1:08:43 > 1:08:49programme, but anyway! Let me know how you de-stress, and we will talk

1:08:49 > 1:08:57about it after 10:30am.

1:08:57 > 1:09:00Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

1:09:00 > 1:09:02at the standard network rate.

1:09:02 > 1:09:07Rebecca says, my experience of stress is dealing with it with

1:09:07 > 1:09:12clients. When we let go of the emotions, we can let go of the

1:09:12 > 1:09:19event, and it becomes wisdom. Do get in touch.

1:09:19 > 1:09:25Here's some sport now with Katherine.

1:09:25 > 1:09:28Northern Ireland boss Michael O'Neill has described his side's

1:09:28 > 1:09:31efforts as amazing, and he said the players were emotional and upset

1:09:31 > 1:09:37after their draw in Basel. A controversial penalty in the first

1:09:37 > 1:09:40leg gave Switzerland the advantage. Northern Ireland got close last

1:09:40 > 1:09:45night, but they won't be going to next summer's World Cup in Russia.

1:09:45 > 1:09:49It would be too strong a word to say cheated, but you do feel that

1:09:49 > 1:09:54there's a certain injustice to going out of the tournament in this way. A

1:09:54 > 1:09:58lot of people said Switzerland were far superior to us in the first leg,

1:09:58 > 1:10:06but they only scored from the penalty, not else. -- not anything

1:10:06 > 1:10:11else. We could have been playing extra time now, so there is an

1:10:11 > 1:10:14injustice there, a huge injustice, given the nature of what has divided

1:10:14 > 1:10:23the teams.Ten days to go until the battle for the Ashes begins. England

1:10:23 > 1:10:28are preparing for the first test by meeting some of the local wildlife.

1:10:28 > 1:10:33Andy Swiss is following the tour. Member to the North Queensland

1:10:33 > 1:10:38close. Just ten days to go until the first Ashes test in Brisbane, and

1:10:38 > 1:10:43England have arrived hoping to fine tune with the final warm up game on

1:10:43 > 1:10:48Wednesday. Matches like this are a chance for players to explore a bit

1:10:48 > 1:10:54of the area. This morning, Moeen Ali and Alastair Cook visited a local

1:10:54 > 1:10:57wildlife sanctuary, where among other things, they got to feed a

1:10:57 > 1:11:02crocodile named Bully. The headline writers might have fun with that.

1:11:02 > 1:11:08Moeen Ali hasn't played in either of England's tour matches because of a

1:11:08 > 1:11:12side strain, but the good news is that he says he is now fit and ready

1:11:12 > 1:11:17for whatever Australia have to throw at him.It is part of the game. It's

1:11:17 > 1:11:23not something I haven't had before. These things happen. Australians

1:11:23 > 1:11:37like to talk a lot and bigger themselves up -- and big. I have

1:11:37 > 1:11:40always had trust in my ability and hopefully I will back that even more

1:11:40 > 1:11:46in this series and do well for England.Moeen Ali, set to play in a

1:11:46 > 1:11:50four-day match against a Cricket Australia 11 starting on Wednesday.

1:11:50 > 1:11:54England have plenty of questions to answer, particularly over their

1:11:54 > 1:12:00batting. No one has scored a century so far on this tour, and there were

1:12:00 > 1:12:05two pretty horrible collapses in their last game in Adelaide. England

1:12:05 > 1:12:08will hope to get a few runs and wickets under their belt before the

1:12:08 > 1:12:14first Ashes test in Brisbane on the 23rd of November.

1:12:14 > 1:12:19Great Britain have won a third gold medal at the track cycling World Cup

1:12:19 > 1:12:27in Manchester. They won the team pursuit, beating Italy by a huge

1:12:27 > 1:12:35margin in the final. Two of the riders also won the Madison. Back to

1:12:35 > 1:12:36you, Victoria.

1:12:36 > 1:12:38This morning we've brought you an insight into a community

1:12:38 > 1:12:40in Britain that is practically invisible.

1:12:40 > 1:12:43And that is a real issue when it comes to their health.

1:12:43 > 1:12:46This programme has learned that some in the Chinese community are hiding

1:12:46 > 1:12:49or ignoring illnesses because of their culture - sometimes

1:12:49 > 1:12:53putting their lives at risk.

1:12:53 > 1:12:55We've heard how women are encouraged to 'confine' themselves

1:12:55 > 1:12:59in their homes for a whole month after having a baby.

1:12:59 > 1:13:03Some mums don't wash their hair or shower and are discouraged

1:13:03 > 1:13:07from crying, or having any visitors, including health professionals.

1:13:07 > 1:13:10With such little awareness about the tradition,

1:13:10 > 1:13:13there's a concern problems in mum and baby might be being missed.

1:13:13 > 1:13:16Our reporter Amber Haque brought you the full story an hour ago -

1:13:16 > 1:13:24here's a short extract.

1:13:24 > 1:13:28Sitting month, as in confinement after childbirth, is a tradition

1:13:28 > 1:13:30so ingrained in Chinese culture that even I did it myself,

1:13:30 > 1:13:31some practices.

1:13:31 > 1:13:34Some of the very strict rules are that you shouldn't drink cold

1:13:34 > 1:13:36drinks during the month, you shouldn't really shower,

1:13:36 > 1:13:38hair washing is not allowed, and obviously not going outside

1:13:38 > 1:13:48the boundaries of your house.

1:13:51 > 1:13:53So, for obvious reasons, we're not allowed to film

1:13:53 > 1:13:56with the mum in her house when she's doing the confinement period,

1:13:56 > 1:13:59but I have found one mum who's willing to talk to me via Skype.

1:13:59 > 1:14:01Her name's Ching, and she actually hasn't left the house

1:14:01 > 1:14:02for nearly 28 days.

1:14:02 > 1:14:04Hi, Ching.

1:14:04 > 1:14:04Hi there.

1:14:04 > 1:14:07I come originally from Singapore and it's part of our culture

1:14:07 > 1:14:11to definitely do confinement, so it was more about making sure

1:14:11 > 1:14:15I can import that over to the UK since I'm doing it here.

1:14:15 > 1:14:17Being confined in your flat actually is important because, for us,

1:14:17 > 1:14:20if you don't practice it, then you are just disadvantaging

1:14:20 > 1:14:21yourself, kind of thing.

1:14:21 > 1:14:24My husband didn't really know what was going when I said, "Oh,

1:14:24 > 1:14:25I need to practice confinement."

1:14:25 > 1:14:26And his family as well.

1:14:26 > 1:14:29So it is quite obvious that there's a lack of understanding or even

1:14:29 > 1:14:31awareness that it even exists.

1:14:31 > 1:14:33But I can see why it can be isolating.

1:14:33 > 1:14:35New mums can often be left in isolation, and that's quite

1:14:35 > 1:14:37difficult for them to cope.

1:14:37 > 1:14:39When they have medical problems, they try to solve it

1:14:39 > 1:14:41within themselves, and sometimes that can have detrimental effects

1:14:41 > 1:14:51to the health of themselves and to the baby.

1:14:58 > 1:15:00Into adulthood, some Chinese people aren't seeking help

1:15:00 > 1:15:02because they feel they should endure problems themselves.

1:15:02 > 1:15:04They are one of the most dispersed communities in Britain,

1:15:04 > 1:15:10and when language is a barrier it makes the isolation even harder.

1:15:10 > 1:15:12Elly Lee's worked in the catering trade in rural Worcestershire

1:15:12 > 1:15:15since moving from Hong Kong with a son and daughter in the 90s.

1:15:15 > 1:15:17She's got stage four cancer, meaning it's advanced,

1:15:17 > 1:15:18and it's spread round her body.

1:15:23 > 1:15:25The Chinese community can have stigma around cancer,

1:15:25 > 1:15:29and some may not even tell their families.

1:15:29 > 1:15:31TRANSLATION:The majority of the Chinese community here work

1:15:31 > 1:15:32predominantly in the catering trade.

1:15:32 > 1:15:34They work long hours where work takes number one,

1:15:34 > 1:15:36and health takes a back-seat.

1:15:36 > 1:15:46I'm speaking out to help Chinese people have an awareness of health.

1:15:48 > 1:15:50There's a clear lack of representation of

1:15:50 > 1:15:52the British Chinese in the media, politics and the arts.

1:15:52 > 1:16:02But for some in the community, that silence can deafening.

1:16:05 > 1:16:08We're often grouped in a box along with other ethnicities

1:16:08 > 1:16:10on statistical data collection forms, and that means our specific

1:16:10 > 1:16:14needs are not being looked into, and the fact that we had to set up

1:16:14 > 1:16:16an online medical advisory service off our own back

1:16:16 > 1:16:17is a reflection of that.

1:16:17 > 1:16:19Just because we are silent and polite, doesn't mean

1:16:19 > 1:16:20we should be ignored.

1:16:20 > 1:16:23Let's talk now to Georgine Leung - she's a mum who did postnatal

1:16:23 > 1:16:25confinement and is researching the tradition for

1:16:25 > 1:16:26University College London.

1:16:26 > 1:16:29Eddie Chan is a Chinese community support worker and says many

1:16:29 > 1:16:31in the community think illness is retribution for something they've

1:16:31 > 1:16:32done wrong in the past.

1:16:32 > 1:16:35Lucinda - that's not her real name, lost her mum to cervical cancer

1:16:35 > 1:16:38when Lucinda was 18.

1:16:38 > 1:16:41Her mum didn't get help until the disease was advanced

1:16:41 > 1:16:44and in fact was diagnosed in A&E after collapsing.

1:16:44 > 1:16:47We're protecting Lucinda's identity as she think her family in Hong Kong

1:16:47 > 1:16:57would disown her for speaking out.

1:16:58 > 1:17:01Why do you think your family might shun new if you they thought you

1:17:01 > 1:17:06were speaking out like this? Probably because we don't really

1:17:06 > 1:17:11talk about our feelings. We are quite private people. You know, you

1:17:11 > 1:17:27just wouldn't.Is there some kind of shame involved if you do speak out?

1:17:27 > 1:17:33You can. You have a problem, you don't feel proud any more.You were

1:17:33 > 1:17:3718 when your mum find out Peshmerga found out she had cancer and she

1:17:37 > 1:17:46wouldn't go to the doctor. -- when your mum found out she had cancer.

1:17:46 > 1:17:53She always went for a cervical smear test. I remember I was 12 and

1:17:53 > 1:17:57stopped a letter came back saying that the test came back abnormal. --

1:17:57 > 1:18:05I was 12. She never went back to get it treated. Three years later

1:18:05 > 1:18:09another letter came to the door urging her to get it treated. I also

1:18:09 > 1:18:19urged her to go to the doctors. She abruptly told me she was fine. I was

1:18:19 > 1:18:2418. Three years later I went to university and then my mum was

1:18:24 > 1:18:30getting really short of breath. I actually thought she had high blood

1:18:30 > 1:18:33pressure. I knew she didn't want to go to the doctors. I kept begging

1:18:33 > 1:18:40her to go. She wouldn't. When I was at uni I went to the Chinese doctor.

1:18:40 > 1:18:45I told him that I thought my mum had high blood pressure, she won't go to

1:18:45 > 1:18:49the Doctor, can you provide something to treat it. She did. I

1:18:49 > 1:18:54gave it to my mum. She accepted it. She thanked me for it. But little

1:18:54 > 1:18:58did I know she didn't have high blood pressure, but in fact quite

1:18:58 > 1:19:02the opposite. She had lost that much blood because the disease had spread

1:19:02 > 1:19:07so far into her body that she was getting out of breath when moving

1:19:07 > 1:19:11about.How much pain do you think she was in if she still wasn't

1:19:11 > 1:19:18willing to seek help?A lot. But he just got on with it. We all do.

1:19:18 > 1:19:26That's part of your tradition, that you endure, you put up with things?

1:19:26 > 1:19:30I'm quite emotional because I'm British-born Chinese. My friends

1:19:30 > 1:19:36would say I'm quite emotional. But over big things like this, you know,

1:19:36 > 1:19:41we just keep it ourselves, don't speak about feelings and fears

1:19:41 > 1:19:49because you want to be proud.You have a personal experience of the

1:19:49 > 1:19:53stigma around cancer, Eddie, and not speaking out, and not informing

1:19:53 > 1:19:57family and friends, tell our audience about your son.This

1:19:57 > 1:20:03happened 20 years ago now. When my second son was five. He was

1:20:03 > 1:20:13diagnosed with childhood cancerous brain tumour. In those days my own

1:20:13 > 1:20:20parents, 50% of the time in the UK, 50% of the time in Hong Kong, they

1:20:20 > 1:20:26were in Hong Kong when he was diagnosed with cancer. We told our

1:20:26 > 1:20:32parents, my parents, and they didn't react to it. In fact, they didn't

1:20:32 > 1:20:38say anything. They didn't even call me or send me a letter asking me

1:20:38 > 1:20:47what happened to their grandchild. Why didn't they want to know, why

1:20:47 > 1:20:52didn't they want to react?I think it is a lot to do with the Chinese

1:20:52 > 1:20:55traditional thinking of retribution, stigma, you must have done something

1:20:55 > 1:21:04wrong, that's why this has happened. It is calmer related to the family.

1:21:04 > 1:21:12With loss of people, they think the family has done something wrong. It

1:21:12 > 1:21:17could be due to the grandparents, the parents, they could have done

1:21:17 > 1:21:21something wrong, they believe that would be reflected to the

1:21:21 > 1:21:25generations further down the line. What do you think of that?

1:21:25 > 1:21:33Obviously, for myself, I'm a bit more up-to-date, modern, I think it

1:21:33 > 1:21:38is pure luck. Whether you are a good person, bad person, you can still

1:21:38 > 1:21:44get terminal illnesses. I know even healthy people, really, really

1:21:44 > 1:21:48healthy people, can die of coronary heart disease or heart attack.

1:21:48 > 1:21:58People are always encouraged in my line of work to live a healthy

1:21:58 > 1:22:05lifestyle.Of course. The issue from all of this, Georgie, is about

1:22:05 > 1:22:08seeking medical help if you don't have to put up with the pain. If you

1:22:08 > 1:22:13don't have to put up with the suffering. I want to talk to you

1:22:13 > 1:22:16specifically about confinement, this month that new mothers stay in their

1:22:16 > 1:22:23house after giving birth. You are researching this. I believe there is

1:22:23 > 1:22:27a link that if you do confinement in the wrong way then there will be

1:22:27 > 1:22:33repercussions later on in life. That's right. Not just by doing it,

1:22:33 > 1:22:39but there is a certain way of doing it. By not doing it well there will

1:22:39 > 1:22:42be repercussions in later life and that's why it is so important to do

1:22:42 > 1:22:47it well during the month of confinement.But it's rubbish, isn't

1:22:47 > 1:22:52it western green it's hard to say whether or not any problems in later

1:22:52 > 1:22:57life would be directly related to the practice and confinement. -- but

1:22:57 > 1:23:02it's rubbish, isn't it? It isn't difficult to say. There is no link.

1:23:02 > 1:23:08In a parallel universe? Eddie, you are smiling.I am smiling because I

1:23:08 > 1:23:14know it's true. I know that a lot of Chinese after giving birth they

1:23:14 > 1:23:20could easily take their one-week-old baby to the shops, the supermarket,

1:23:20 > 1:23:25and I don't know why it is such a tradition.Is it offensive if I say

1:23:25 > 1:23:29that? If I say it's rubbish, that there is no link between the way you

1:23:29 > 1:23:33do confinement, confinement at all, something later in life, would that

1:23:33 > 1:23:38be fair?It goes back to the set of traditional beliefs that mothers

1:23:38 > 1:23:41would do all sorts of different things to make sure they recover

1:23:41 > 1:23:47very well. To avoid going into a state of poor health in the future.

1:23:47 > 1:23:52Of course we would never be able to say in 30, 40 years' time if that

1:23:52 > 1:23:57illness is to do with confinement. There wouldn't be any evidence. But

1:23:57 > 1:24:03the attention, the awareness, being focused on the mother's health

1:24:03 > 1:24:06during a period of vulnerability, it's quite important because often

1:24:06 > 1:24:09after childbirth the attention goes on the baby. And very often we

1:24:09 > 1:24:15forget about the mother's health. Many people are agreeing, they say

1:24:15 > 1:24:19that might be a really good time to basically stay in and bond with the

1:24:19 > 1:24:23baby. But tell me how not washing your hair has an impact. That's one

1:24:23 > 1:24:30of the police. How is that relevant? After a woman has given birth her

1:24:30 > 1:24:35body is seen to be of a cold state. All of her joints are open. That's

1:24:35 > 1:24:41the belief that a cold wind might easily go into her body. So by not

1:24:41 > 1:24:45doing anything which exacerbates the coldness goes into the body can help

1:24:45 > 1:24:51to protect her.But we live in Britain. We have central heating.

1:24:51 > 1:25:00Gas fires. And stuff.I think that's the issue between how do you balance

1:25:00 > 1:25:03traditional beliefs and modern health practices. From the women

1:25:03 > 1:25:09I've interviewed in the past, they seem to actually do a bit of both.

1:25:09 > 1:25:11They don't necessarily do all of the restrictions, but they actually

1:25:11 > 1:25:18adapt to some of the more modern health practices. And they would

1:25:18 > 1:25:25adapt to their own confinement.In China some mums don't get out of bed

1:25:25 > 1:25:32for two weeks. They eat a diet rich in calories to get, for what

1:25:32 > 1:25:37purpose?Food is important during the month of confinement. That ties

1:25:37 > 1:25:40into the traditional belief that food is healing and warming foods

1:25:40 > 1:25:46are particularly important. Women are expected to follow a set of

1:25:46 > 1:25:50rules. Particularly eating certain foods, and not eating certain other

1:25:50 > 1:25:55foods. For women who are eating particularly nourishing foods, foods

1:25:55 > 1:26:00which are calorie dense, sometimes having, say, a rice dish at every

1:26:00 > 1:26:04meal, three to four times a day, for example, can be much more than their

1:26:04 > 1:26:12typical diet would allow.Which is quite a difference, for example, to

1:26:12 > 1:26:15sometimes the pressure that Western women feel when they've given birth

1:26:15 > 1:26:18to get back to being thin, lose the baby weight, and all of the rest of

1:26:18 > 1:26:23it.Definitely. There does not seem to be a pressure for them to lose

1:26:23 > 1:26:28weight very quickly. The attention would be for her to recover her body

1:26:28 > 1:26:33to get back to normal. And after the period of 30 days, or up to six

1:26:33 > 1:26:37weeks, she can start thinking about going out and exercising and losing

1:26:37 > 1:26:43weight, but that isn't her priority immediately after birth.OK. A final

1:26:43 > 1:26:47thought, from all of you, what would you say to any members of the

1:26:47 > 1:26:51Chinese community watching now who might be in pain, might think there

1:26:51 > 1:26:55is an issue with their health, but are not going to their GPs, not

1:26:55 > 1:26:59seeking help, because of the traditional beliefs of putting up

1:26:59 > 1:27:05with it, enduring, and maintaining their privacy and dignity?I would

1:27:05 > 1:27:12say make an appointment to see your GP. It's so important to seek help

1:27:12 > 1:27:15when you are in pain and you don't feel comfortable. And you know

1:27:15 > 1:27:18something is not quite right with you.And there is no shame in

1:27:18 > 1:27:26seeking help, is there?No.What would you say Lucinda?Just echoing

1:27:26 > 1:27:30Eddie's thoughts, really, go to the doctors, make that appointment if

1:27:30 > 1:27:36you think something isn't right. Seek medical help. And also listen

1:27:36 > 1:27:40to your family, as well, they are there to support you.OK, thanks

1:27:40 > 1:27:45very much, thanks all of you for coming on the programme. Still to

1:27:45 > 1:27:49come before 11 o'clock. 300 people have been killed and thousands

1:27:49 > 1:27:54injured following that earthquake which measured 7.3. Our Persian

1:27:54 > 1:27:59correspondent will bring us the latest on what happened on the Iran

1:27:59 > 1:28:04Iraq border. One in ten of us is stressed all the time. Is that you?

1:28:04 > 1:28:12We will talk about stress and how you try to manage it.

1:28:13 > 1:28:20Time to the latest news. This is BBC News, our main stories:

1:28:20 > 1:28:24A powerful earthquake has killed more than 300 people in western

1:28:24 > 1:28:27Iran. Thousands more have been injured.

1:28:27 > 1:28:30The epicentre of the quake which measured 7.3 was across-the-board in

1:28:30 > 1:28:35Iraq. Electricity has been cut in a number of towns and villages and

1:28:35 > 1:28:37blocked roads are said to be preventing some rescue teams from

1:28:37 > 1:28:43reaching the affected areas.

1:28:43 > 1:28:48The husband of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has said Boris

1:28:48 > 1:28:52Johnson is now personally engaged in the case. Richard Ratcliffe said Mr

1:28:52 > 1:28:57Johnson told him he was considering whether his wife would be eligible

1:28:57 > 1:29:00for diplomatic protection. Last week the Foreign Secretary corrected in

1:29:00 > 1:29:06earlier remark suggesting Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been training

1:29:06 > 1:29:09journalists when she was arrested last year.

1:29:09 > 1:29:11Business leaders from across Europe will be in Downing Street today

1:29:11 > 1:29:15to voice their concerns about trade after Brexit.

1:29:15 > 1:29:21They are pressing for a transitional deal between Britain and the EU

1:29:21 > 1:29:23which maintains trading relationships. They also want the

1:29:23 > 1:29:25future relationship clarified.

1:29:25 > 1:29:29Bob Geldof says he is handing back his Freedom of the City of Dublin,

1:29:29 > 1:29:31because the same honour has been granted to the Burmese political

1:29:31 > 1:29:33leader, Aung San Suu Kyi.

1:29:33 > 1:29:35He's described the treatment by Myanmar's military

1:29:35 > 1:29:36of the Rohingya muslim minority community as "mass

1:29:36 > 1:29:37ethnic cleansing."

1:29:37 > 1:29:41The Live Aid organiser said his home city had honoured Aung San Suu Kyi,

1:29:41 > 1:29:45but now she had appalled and shamed Dublin.

1:29:45 > 1:29:47Jupiter and Venus, the two brightest planets, have been appearing very

1:29:47 > 1:29:49close together in the morning sky.

1:29:49 > 1:29:53Both have been visible to the naked eye across the UK.

1:29:53 > 1:29:55The best viewing time was 40 minutes before sunrise.

1:29:55 > 1:29:58While the planets are visible to the naked eye, viewers

1:29:58 > 1:30:00with a telescope have also been able to see Jupiter's

1:30:00 > 1:30:07four Galilean moons.

1:30:09 > 1:30:14That's the latest.

1:30:14 > 1:30:20We have some messages about stress. Lydia said I was signed off because

1:30:20 > 1:30:24of stress. I was watching TV, an advert for choir came up, I knew

1:30:24 > 1:30:28about the benefits of singing on your health. I remember being

1:30:28 > 1:30:30petrified beforehand but I enjoyed every minute and I left feeling

1:30:30 > 1:30:35fantastic. After 90 minutes of singing all of my stress has left

1:30:35 > 1:30:38me. I've been going for two years, I've never looked back, it's the

1:30:38 > 1:30:44best thing I've ever done. Lisa says he said he wanted to know

1:30:44 > 1:30:50how I manage stress. It's something I have worked hard to deal with from

1:30:50 > 1:30:56work to family issues. On one of these occasions, all being together,

1:30:56 > 1:31:00it was disempowering. I managed stress by going to the gym, walking

1:31:00 > 1:31:07every day, and doing yoga. I wondered when Yoda would come up. --

1:31:07 > 1:31:12yoga.

1:31:12 > 1:31:19Time for the sport. Northern Ireland will not be going

1:31:19 > 1:31:25to the World Cup in Russia after losing 1-0 to Switzerland.

1:31:25 > 1:31:33Gold for Great Britain at the track cycling World Cup in Manchester.

1:31:33 > 1:31:36Lewis Hamilton was the driver of the day at the Brazilian Grand Prix,

1:31:36 > 1:31:40although he did not win the race. He started last that finished fourth at

1:31:40 > 1:31:46Sebastian Vettel took the honours. Roger Federer started with a

1:31:46 > 1:31:50straight sets win over Jack Sock at the ATP tour finals in London, the

1:31:50 > 1:31:55end of season event for the world's top players. At 36, Roger Federer is

1:31:55 > 1:31:59playing in this event for the 15th time. He has quite a year, hasn't

1:31:59 > 1:32:11he? Thank you.

1:32:13 > 1:32:18Richard Ratcliffe, the husband of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, who is

1:32:18 > 1:32:24imprisoned in Iran,... He has said she's on the verge of a nervous

1:32:24 > 1:32:28breakdown and has seen doctors about lumps identified in her breast. In

1:32:28 > 1:32:33April 2016, she was while visiting Iran to see family and for her

1:32:33 > 1:32:37daughter to meet her grandparents. On the 1st of November this year,

1:32:37 > 1:32:41Boris Johnson wrongly said she had been training journalists while out

1:32:41 > 1:32:45in Iran.When you look at what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing,

1:32:45 > 1:32:50it's just, you know, she was simply teaching people journalism, as I

1:32:50 > 1:32:53understand it.Four days later, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was recalled to

1:32:53 > 1:33:00court in Iran and Mr Johnson's statement was cited against her,

1:33:00 > 1:33:05prompting fears that her five-year jail term could be extended. By the

1:33:05 > 1:33:087th of November, Boris Johnson was forced to clarify his remarks the

1:33:08 > 1:33:15MPs and said he was sorry if the remarks caused anxiety.The UK

1:33:15 > 1:33:18Government has no doubt that she was on holiday in Iran when she was

1:33:18 > 1:33:24arrested last year, and that was the sole purpose of her visit. I accept

1:33:24 > 1:33:29that my remarks could have been clearer in that respect, and I'm

1:33:29 > 1:33:34glad to provide this clarification. On Saturday, Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's

1:33:34 > 1:33:38family said she was taken to hospital for an ultrasound because

1:33:38 > 1:33:42she had been campaigning of sharp stabbing pains in her breasts for

1:33:42 > 1:33:47more than a year. Yesterday, Michael Gove came under fire for saying he

1:33:47 > 1:33:50didn't know what Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing in Iran

1:33:50 > 1:33:56one she was arrested last year. Richard Ratcliffe told me he felt

1:33:56 > 1:34:02compelled to e-mail the foreign office after the interview Mr Gove

1:34:02 > 1:34:06gave, reminding them of UK public policy towards the detention of his

1:34:06 > 1:34:14wife.Following Michael go's comments, I thought, -- Michael

1:34:14 > 1:34:18Gove's comments, I thought, it needs to be clarified, so I wrote to our

1:34:18 > 1:34:21contact that the foreign office and said, listen, can you please remind

1:34:21 > 1:34:25all cabinet members that UK Government has no doubt that Nazanin

1:34:25 > 1:34:29was there on holiday? That is the UK policy and it is not my job to

1:34:29 > 1:34:36police but these things shouldn't... Lets be honest, it's unlikely that

1:34:36 > 1:34:39Michael Gove's comments will suddenly be appearing in the

1:34:39 > 1:34:43Iranians media, but if it goes to trial, they collect this evidence

1:34:43 > 1:34:47and it gets piled up, and obviously the most important person at this

1:34:47 > 1:34:52point is the Foreign Secretary, who is the voice and presence of the UK.

1:34:52 > 1:34:58It is important that he battles for Nazanin, and that he clarifies the

1:34:58 > 1:35:02parliament. If it goes to trial, it is important that all this stuff is

1:35:02 > 1:35:07nipped in the bud.Michael Gove was asked about your wife's case

1:35:07 > 1:35:09yesterday on the Andrew Marr programme. I want to play the

1:35:09 > 1:35:13relevant clip so the audience know what we are talking about.

1:35:13 > 1:35:17What was she doing when she went to Iran?I don't know, and one of the

1:35:17 > 1:35:22things I want to stress is that there is no reason why Nazanin

1:35:22 > 1:35:27Zaghari-Ratcliffe should beat in prison in Iran, as far as any of us

1:35:27 > 1:35:32know. No evidence has been produced which suggests she should be

1:35:32 > 1:35:36retained -- butane. We know that the uranium regime is capable of harming

1:35:36 > 1:35:38the human rights of its own citizens, and it appears to be

1:35:38 > 1:35:43harming the rights of someone whose plight necessarily moves us all.Her

1:35:43 > 1:35:49husband is clear that she was there on holiday with her child.In that

1:35:49 > 1:35:54case, I take exactly her husband's assurance in that regard.The

1:35:54 > 1:35:57problem with that exchanges that Mr Gove said he didn't know why your

1:35:57 > 1:36:01wife was there. You said you didn't see that interview live, but members

1:36:01 > 1:36:06of your family were pretty cross. And it was picked up on on social

1:36:06 > 1:36:11media with other people responding. What he says is reasonable and

1:36:11 > 1:36:15helpful, it's just the emphatic, I don't know, at the beginning. And

1:36:15 > 1:36:26that he says he will

1:36:27 > 1:36:29take my assurances. The Foreign Secretary has said in Parliament

1:36:29 > 1:36:31that the UK Government has no doubt. Were you surprised? Mr Gove is

1:36:31 > 1:36:35usually very precise with his words and well briefed.So much happened

1:36:35 > 1:36:37that there were bigger things. I spoke to the Foreign Secretary for

1:36:37 > 1:36:43the first time in a long time. That is intimidating. And I had a phone

1:36:43 > 1:36:46call with Nazanin where I learned about what she had gone through. It

1:36:46 > 1:36:51was the third biggest thing of the day.In terms of the conversation

1:36:51 > 1:36:55you had with the Foreign Secretary, did he apologise for his inaccurate

1:36:55 > 1:36:58comments to the committee a couple of weeks ago which could potentially

1:36:58 > 1:37:04make your wife's situation, her jail sentence longer?He said he was

1:37:04 > 1:37:09sorry for the suffering and that all the country was behind her. We

1:37:09 > 1:37:13talked about meeting soon, talked about me going to be run with him

1:37:13 > 1:37:18and he said he would look at it seriously. I asked him to look at

1:37:18 > 1:37:21him personally offering her diplomatic protection, which would

1:37:21 > 1:37:24mean that there was much more protection given to her by the

1:37:24 > 1:37:28British Government.Are you surprised that it has taken this

1:37:28 > 1:37:33long for the Foreign Secretary to pick up the phone to you?I had been

1:37:33 > 1:37:36complaining on your show and others that I want the Government to do

1:37:36 > 1:37:40more, and publicly, and that the foreign office, I have been saying I

1:37:40 > 1:37:44think it is important that you do, and they say it is important that

1:37:44 > 1:37:49they don't.It took a gaffe for the Foreign Secretary to eventually pick

1:37:49 > 1:37:54up the phone.His words are being used by the Iranians, and it is

1:37:54 > 1:37:58important he stand up for her, that I stand alongside him, and that

1:37:58 > 1:38:04together we get her as soon as possible.Let's talk now to our

1:38:04 > 1:38:07former Iranians diplomat and Government minister in Iran's

1:38:07 > 1:38:10Foreign Ministry. Thank you for talking to us. If the Foreign

1:38:10 > 1:38:17Secretary could achieve diplomatic protection status for Mrs

1:38:17 > 1:38:25Zaghari-Ratcliffe, what difference might that make?First of all, I

1:38:25 > 1:38:32don't know what diplomatic protection is, because Nazanin has

1:38:32 > 1:38:38dual citizenship, and as far as the Iranians authorities are concerned,

1:38:38 > 1:38:42they do not recognise dual citizenship, so she entered Iran

1:38:42 > 1:38:46probably on her Iranians passport, and she is being charged as an

1:38:46 > 1:38:53Iranians citizen, so I don't see how British diplomatic protection could

1:38:53 > 1:38:56be extended to an Iranians citizen who is being tried. I think that

1:38:56 > 1:39:03this avenue, to me, based on what I understand, is a nonstarter, and it

1:39:03 > 1:39:09is just a matter of voicing some sympathetic consideration is, and

1:39:09 > 1:39:15nothing really more than that.OK, so what would be your advice to the

1:39:15 > 1:39:22Foreign Secretary, then, in trying to bring Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe home?

1:39:22 > 1:39:26Well, I think that, obviously, the Foreign Secretary's visit to Iran,

1:39:26 > 1:39:32the forthcoming visit, his discussions in Private with the

1:39:32 > 1:39:36Iranians Foreign Minister, whom I have to say that I believe has been

1:39:36 > 1:39:47sympathetic to the cause of Nazanin, is going to help. Inadvertently, the

1:39:47 > 1:39:51Iranians regime may want some consist -- concessions or assistance

1:39:51 > 1:39:57from the United Kingdom that they do not discuss openly. These all can be

1:39:57 > 1:40:00discussed privately, and some kind of arrangement may be able to be

1:40:00 > 1:40:06made, but you have to bear in mind that the Iranians Government, the

1:40:06 > 1:40:08Iranians Foreign Ministry, with whom the Foreign Secretary will be

1:40:08 > 1:40:15dealing, they are basically not the people who are in charge of

1:40:15 > 1:40:21incarceration. This is the judiciary, and the judiciary in Iran

1:40:21 > 1:40:26is an adversary of the Government and the Foreign Ministry. So,

1:40:26 > 1:40:30domestic uranium politics, I'm afraid, has played a significant

1:40:30 > 1:40:35role in what has been handed out to Nazanin, and to the suffering she

1:40:35 > 1:40:39has had to endure in the course of these past months.Are you saying

1:40:39 > 1:40:44that the Iranians Government can have no influence over the

1:40:44 > 1:40:49judiciary, irrespective of what the Foreign Secretary concedes or

1:40:49 > 1:40:56negotiates in some sort of deal? Well, literally, the answer to that

1:40:56 > 1:41:04is yes. The Government cannot force the judiciary to change its verdict.

1:41:04 > 1:41:10The judiciary may be persuaded to make certain concessions in terms

1:41:10 > 1:41:16of, you might say, dictates that come from the supreme leader, from

1:41:16 > 1:41:21the hardline elements who can influence it, and that can only come

1:41:21 > 1:41:27on the basis of some kind of deal being struck behind the scenes in

1:41:27 > 1:41:33terms of perhaps doing an exchange of, I don't know if there are some

1:41:33 > 1:41:37Iranians prisoners here, that sort of thing, or bearing in mind that

1:41:37 > 1:41:43there is a great deal of commotion in the Middle East right now, where

1:41:43 > 1:41:50Iran needs diplomatic support if Iranians positions are supported or

1:41:50 > 1:41:54Iranians causes are listened to, there is a whole variation of

1:41:54 > 1:41:58factors. But these are things that have to be discussed, really, behind

1:41:58 > 1:42:04and not in public, and I don't believe that the highlighting of

1:42:04 > 1:42:08this issue in the manner that it has been done necessarily helps Nazanin

1:42:08 > 1:42:16and her case for being sort of let go.OK. Just so that I am clear,

1:42:16 > 1:42:22then, you've said that the judiciary's independent of the

1:42:22 > 1:42:25Government, but you've also suggested that if the Foreign

1:42:25 > 1:42:28Secretary goes there and comes up with some sort of agreement, perhaps

1:42:28 > 1:42:31agreeing to demands from the Iranians Government, for example,

1:42:31 > 1:42:36then that might lead to some sort of big cat to the judiciary to

1:42:36 > 1:42:46potentially release her. -- diktat. How realistic is that scenario?It

1:42:46 > 1:42:50can happen. You have to bear in mind that the judiciary is an adversary

1:42:50 > 1:42:54of the Government and tries to sort of oppose the Government at every

1:42:54 > 1:42:59corner. That cannot be resolved internally, but with the Foreign

1:42:59 > 1:43:04Secretary visiting Iran, there is a host of different issues that are

1:43:04 > 1:43:08being discussed, and a whole series of issues in which Iran wants the

1:43:08 > 1:43:12support of the British Government, especially in its dealings with in

1:43:12 > 1:43:18the region, with Saudi Arabia, with Syria and someone, so in the context

1:43:18 > 1:43:24of our broader picture and a broader understanding that can come about as

1:43:24 > 1:43:28a consequence of discussions that are held between the Foreign

1:43:28 > 1:43:32Secretary and the Iranians Foreign Minister, the Iranians political

1:43:32 > 1:43:35system, headed by this imprint leader, may want to make certain

1:43:35 > 1:43:41concessions in order to try to sort of help that sort of process, but

1:43:41 > 1:43:48again, that is the best way, and hide profiling this. You have to

1:43:48 > 1:43:53bear in mind that the sentence that was handed out to Mrs

1:43:53 > 1:43:56Zaghari-Ratcliffe was done way before this Foreign Secretary made

1:43:56 > 1:44:05any comments, so putting everything into context, I think that the

1:44:05 > 1:44:08forthcoming visit to Iran by the Foreign Secretary is a good thing.

1:44:08 > 1:44:13There is every prospect that something could be worked out there

1:44:13 > 1:44:17that can relieve this poor soul who has had to suffer so much in the

1:44:17 > 1:44:20course of the past year.Thank you very much for your insight. Really

1:44:20 > 1:44:28appreciate it. A former Iranians diplomat and former minister in

1:44:28 > 1:44:35Iran's Foreign Ministry. We are going to talk about stress. I

1:44:35 > 1:44:37appreciate, with reference to that last conversation, that the stress

1:44:37 > 1:44:41that most of us might experience Wheatley is nothing compared to what

1:44:41 > 1:44:46is going on in the Zaghari-Ratcliffe family right now. Anyway, there is a

1:44:46 > 1:44:50lot of stress about and new research suggest that four in five of us feel

1:44:50 > 1:44:54stressed at some point in a typical week. One in ten of us is stressed

1:44:54 > 1:44:59all the time. Our health and finances are pretty common causes,

1:44:59 > 1:45:04but it is thought that work is a common culprit, with many of us

1:45:04 > 1:45:07checking e-mails and taking calls outside of office hours. How

1:45:07 > 1:45:16debilitating cancer be a stress B, and how can we manage it? -- can

1:45:16 > 1:45:22severe stress the

1:45:22 > 1:45:25Let's talk now to Dr Philippa Kaye, a GP in London, the fourth most

1:45:25 > 1:45:26the fourth most stress the

1:45:26 > 1:45:28stressed city in the UK.

1:45:28 > 1:45:31Leah Steele, who left her dream job as a lawyer because of the stress

1:45:31 > 1:45:33six months ago, and Jessica Carmody, who says she's always

1:45:33 > 1:45:41encountered stress but has now learnt to manage it.

1:45:41 > 1:45:45Welcome, all of you. I'd like to start with you, if I may, as a

1:45:45 > 1:45:55former lawyer, about why you left your job.I had always experienced a

1:45:55 > 1:46:00high level of stress in my job. Par for the course. You expect that. But

1:46:00 > 1:46:03over a course of a number of years I'd been working more and more

1:46:03 > 1:46:08hours. It became quite usual for me to work than the hours. I've

1:46:08 > 1:46:11realised how many people around me were struggling with the same

1:46:11 > 1:46:16problems. So I spent a long time investigating how I could handle it,

1:46:16 > 1:46:20how I could build more resilience, and are actually decided to leave to

1:46:20 > 1:46:28help more women with exactly this problem.In terms of your job, you

1:46:28 > 1:46:33would check your e-mails, I think, six times a day when you were on

1:46:33 > 1:46:37holiday.Yes, I went away on one holiday and it took me until two

1:46:37 > 1:46:41days before I left to stop checking my e-mail is six times a day, asking

1:46:41 > 1:46:50if things had been sorted, trying to keep on top of everything.Philippa,

1:46:50 > 1:46:55you are a GP, do you see more people coming in with complaints about

1:46:55 > 1:47:00stressed?All day everyday about stress. Some may not even realise

1:47:00 > 1:47:04that what their physical complaint is a sign of stress or worsened by

1:47:04 > 1:47:10stress. They might come in with headaches, jaw pain, IBS, a skin

1:47:10 > 1:47:15condition, and when I ask about stress, they are often very

1:47:15 > 1:47:20surprised there can be a physical component to what is normally a more

1:47:20 > 1:47:25emotional state.It's all relative. It's the juxtaposition with our

1:47:25 > 1:47:31previous story, isn't it? There are grades of stress.Yes, but it isn't

1:47:31 > 1:47:35helpful for people to compare with others. Otherwise everybody who is

1:47:35 > 1:47:39depressed would say, I'm not hungry, so I don't deserve to be stressed,

1:47:39 > 1:47:44and that's part of the negative feeling around that. Your body will

1:47:44 > 1:47:48be experiencing the rushes of adrenaline and cortisol making you

1:47:48 > 1:47:55feel a typical way. But I feel like I understand why we might feel like

1:47:55 > 1:47:59that.You say you've always been somebody who is susceptible to

1:47:59 > 1:48:07stress.That's right. Even when I was in my teens, doing exams, having

1:48:07 > 1:48:12lots of pressure, lots of things on my plate, I suddenly realised that a

1:48:12 > 1:48:14number of different pressures would build up and I found it difficult to

1:48:14 > 1:48:19cope with, then I started to feel I was stressed.How have you managed

1:48:19 > 1:48:23it?I have to strike a balance between having a number of things to

1:48:23 > 1:48:28do so that I feel challenged to stop having too little can make me

1:48:28 > 1:48:33stressed, as well as having too much. I try to strike a balance

1:48:33 > 1:48:37between the two. It's not always easy but that is what I tried to do.

1:48:37 > 1:48:42You have a to-do list but it isn't too long?That's the idea. If I have

1:48:42 > 1:48:46just about the right amount of things to do. Enough social time,

1:48:46 > 1:48:52enough work, that's good. I like to be challenged. But if it starts

1:48:52 > 1:48:57getting to too many things to do, too many things on myself, it gets

1:48:57 > 1:49:02too much.At one period in your life it got so bad that you had to take a

1:49:02 > 1:49:06year out from university, didn't you?I did.How would you describe

1:49:06 > 1:49:10that period of your life?It was very difficult. I was frightened.

1:49:10 > 1:49:18What Philippa is saying about the physical things, that was definitely

1:49:18 > 1:49:23there. I felt sick, I had a fever, I couldn't do a simple thing without

1:49:23 > 1:49:25finding it incredibly difficult, like making a cup of tea. It

1:49:25 > 1:49:32wouldn't be something I felt I could do. I could do it but I didn't feel

1:49:32 > 1:49:36like I could, so it was a very scary time. It took me a long time to come

1:49:36 > 1:49:42out of that, that's why I needed the time off.Let me talk to Lydia. Good

1:49:42 > 1:49:46morning. Where are you talking to us from in the country?I am from

1:49:46 > 1:49:52Devon.Thank you for joining us on the programme. You also had a period

1:49:52 > 1:49:58of stress in your life, how did you learn to manage it?There was one

1:49:58 > 1:50:03day I was really bad. I was in bed. I got my computer out to do things

1:50:03 > 1:50:07online and I saw an advert for a choir. I thought this was my chance,

1:50:07 > 1:50:13I love to sing. I signed up for a session online. I went along. And it

1:50:13 > 1:50:17was the best 90 minutes of my life. I was happy, smiling, with people

1:50:17 > 1:50:22there for the same reason. They didn't know my background, they just

1:50:22 > 1:50:26knew me for me. I left with a smile on my face. For the first time in my

1:50:26 > 1:50:33life I was really happy.Seriously? How old are you, if you don't mind?

1:50:33 > 1:50:37I've just turned 21.And that was the happiest you had been in your

1:50:37 > 1:50:47life?Yes.Wow, that makes me feel sad. As a GP, can you understand why

1:50:47 > 1:50:51singing might make somebody feel happy and help manage stress?

1:50:51 > 1:50:56Absolutely. Singing makes you happy. It releases endorphins. And it's

1:50:56 > 1:51:00also about doing something yourself, prioritising yourself, and saying, I

1:51:00 > 1:51:07am worth this. You would treat your pet, your child, your family members

1:51:07 > 1:51:10much kinder than you would treat yourself. It's about having

1:51:10 > 1:51:15compassion for yourself. It's about saying, this is for me, and

1:51:15 > 1:51:18prioritising that. We need to do that. We need to say, it's 6pm, at

1:51:18 > 1:51:258pm, and my phone is turned off. And if I miss something, that is a

1:51:25 > 1:51:28request by somebody, I'm not obligated to answer it now. I will

1:51:28 > 1:51:33do that tomorrow. Taking that time. Understanding that Instagram is an

1:51:33 > 1:51:40unattainable thing, having those standards isn't necessarily healthy.

1:51:40 > 1:51:46And about getting outside in that natural light. Exercise if you can.

1:51:46 > 1:51:50When you get stressed at work, all of those hormones are sending blood

1:51:50 > 1:51:53to the muscles to run away. Traditionally to run away from the

1:51:53 > 1:51:58sabre-tooth tiger coming along to kill you. We don't have that now,

1:51:58 > 1:52:01obviously, but it means there is not as much blood in your head, so you

1:52:01 > 1:52:06can't make decisions. You can't concentrate. Break the cycle. Get

1:52:06 > 1:52:11out. Do something else, something for yourself, then come back and you

1:52:11 > 1:52:16will work smarter and harder. Joining a choir, Lydia, having that

1:52:16 > 1:52:18hump yourself, releasing those endorphins has helped you get back

1:52:18 > 1:52:25on track, would you say? -- having that time for yourself.It really

1:52:25 > 1:52:34has.Really nice to talk to you. We had somebody contact us earlier, to

1:52:34 > 1:52:39de-stress she lies on her back and she listens to Ocean music, as she

1:52:39 > 1:52:44put it, so, something like this. MUSIC PLAYS

1:52:44 > 1:52:51This does not sound like an ocean to me?It sounds like what you hear on

1:52:51 > 1:53:01Blue Planet.Good suggestion. Do you find that soothing?I don't think I

1:53:01 > 1:53:05would if I was having a panic attack. But it is nice to listen to.

1:53:05 > 1:53:09It is about what works for you. Something different will work for

1:53:09 > 1:53:17different people. I like singing, painting, running, as you say, find

1:53:17 > 1:53:21something that works for you.The thing about this is, you are lying

1:53:21 > 1:53:24on your bed, listening to this, and you are focusing on your breathing,

1:53:24 > 1:53:30the moment, and you are getting out of your head.That's mindfulness,

1:53:30 > 1:53:34isn't it?Yes. It is about being able to turn off those racing

1:53:34 > 1:53:39thoughts. Music can allow people to do that. That was slow-paced. You

1:53:39 > 1:53:43will slow your breathing with it. Then you will feel more relaxed.

1:53:43 > 1:53:48That is probably why it works for her.OK, thank you, thank you for

1:53:48 > 1:53:55coming on the programme. And thank you, Leah, we appreciate your time.

1:53:55 > 1:54:03Next: The earthquake in Iran. At least 320 people have been killed

1:54:03 > 1:54:07when an earthquake hit the Iran-Iraq border overnight. Thousands more

1:54:07 > 1:54:11have been injured. Many left without shelter. It's one of the largest

1:54:11 > 1:54:15earthquakes to hit the region this year with tremors felt as far away

1:54:15 > 1:54:18as Lebanon and Turkey. Local authorities have warned the death

1:54:18 > 1:54:23toll is expected to rise.

1:54:23 > 1:54:25We're joined now by BBC Persian Service Correspondent

1:54:25 > 1:54:26Siavash Ardalan.

1:54:26 > 1:54:33Thank you for talking to us. Tell us the latest.In terms of casualties,

1:54:33 > 1:54:39we've had over 340 deaths. Close to 4000 injured. The numbers of

1:54:39 > 1:54:45casualties are rising fast. You can get different accounts from news

1:54:45 > 1:54:50agencies and social media because many people are uploading videos of

1:54:50 > 1:54:53collapsed buildings. Lots of people asking for help, saying power has

1:54:53 > 1:54:57been cut off, water has been cut off, saying they are not getting

1:54:57 > 1:55:02enough aid. Whereas official sources are saying that help is being sent.

1:55:02 > 1:55:07Iran is a very earthquake ridden country. But in terms of the scale

1:55:07 > 1:55:10of the devastation we still don't know because many of the remote

1:55:10 > 1:55:18areas typically are harder to get to. Also, independent reporters and

1:55:18 > 1:55:21foreign correspondents are not present in the areas yet. People

1:55:21 > 1:55:29have been requesting permission, but they need official authorisation, so

1:55:29 > 1:55:34it might take a few days before we get more information. Many people

1:55:34 > 1:55:37are complaining about the lack of power and lack of water. Those

1:55:37 > 1:55:45things might not be restored for another 48 hours. The majority of

1:55:45 > 1:55:51the casualties happened in a city in the west of the country. The

1:55:51 > 1:55:53hospital there collapsed. It buried all of the hospital staff underneath

1:55:53 > 1:55:57it. That was one of the most heart-wrenching videos which emerged

1:55:57 > 1:56:03after the earthquake, which happened 15 hours ago, 9pm local time.What

1:56:03 > 1:56:07are the authority saying about the rescue operation?They've sent the

1:56:07 > 1:56:15commander of the regular army and -- regular army there. The president

1:56:15 > 1:56:20doesn't want to go there. He is wary of creating a distraction. They say

1:56:20 > 1:56:24they've deployed all of their resources to the area. We have heard

1:56:24 > 1:56:28of sniffer dogs and success stories of people being pulled from the

1:56:28 > 1:56:32rubble still alive.And it's just the Iranians helping? There isn't

1:56:32 > 1:56:41any help from Iraq?Iraq have their own casualties.So they are not

1:56:41 > 1:56:46working together necessarily?Not necessarily. But both countries have

1:56:46 > 1:56:51been affected. On the Iranians eyed the casualties are higher.Tellers

1:56:51 > 1:56:56about the area that was hit.It is in the western area of Iran, Kurdish

1:56:56 > 1:57:08areas, both on the Iranians and Iraq side. This has affected particularly

1:57:08 > 1:57:16the West. It is the nightmare scenario for Iranians come it's the

1:57:16 > 1:57:21big earthquake they are expecting in the capital. -- for the Iranians,

1:57:21 > 1:57:25it's the big earthquake they are expecting in the capital. There is

1:57:25 > 1:57:34already social outcry on social media about the lack of observance

1:57:34 > 1:57:39to engineering practices. Many social housing has collapsed. Every

1:57:39 > 1:57:44time an earthquake happens there is cause for enforcement of these

1:57:44 > 1:57:50standards but it never seems to happen.-- there are calls for

1:57:50 > 1:57:54enforcement of the standards. For many people their homes have gone.

1:57:54 > 1:57:58There were a lot of after-shocks and tremors. Officials were asking

1:57:58 > 1:58:03people to go out on the streets, not stay at home because of

1:58:03 > 1:58:06after-shocks. But this was happening in the chill overnight. It was very

1:58:06 > 1:58:12cold. Many people did not have time to get blankets. Many people were

1:58:12 > 1:58:16creating fires in the streets to stand near and keep warm.Thanks

1:58:16 > 1:58:20very much.

1:58:20 > 1:58:21Thank you for your company today.

1:58:21 > 1:58:23BBC Newsroom live is coming up next.

1:58:23 > 1:58:24Have a good day.