16/11/2017

0:00:05 > 0:00:09Hello it's Thursday.

0:00:09 > 0:00:15It' 9 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley, welcome to the programme.

0:00:15 > 0:00:21Police investigating the Grenfell Tower tragedy

0:00:21 > 0:00:24say 70 people and a still-born baby make up the final death toll.

0:00:24 > 0:00:25Everyone has now been identified.

0:00:25 > 0:00:26We'll have the details.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28Zimbabwe's elderly leader, Robert Mugabe,

0:00:28 > 0:00:29remains under house arrest this morning.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32He's being held by the country's military in what many see as a move

0:00:32 > 0:00:37to stop him handing power to his wife.

0:00:37 > 0:00:41Jacob Zuma has sent a team from South Africa to reach out to the

0:00:41 > 0:00:44different leaders here, in the military, as well as president

0:00:44 > 0:00:49Robert Mugabe, to try to form some sort of solution. That is what the

0:00:49 > 0:00:56people are waiting for.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58We'll have the latest and find out what ordinary Zimbabweans

0:00:58 > 0:00:59think of what's going on.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01It's exactly a year since former professional footballer

0:01:01 > 0:01:03Andy Woodward spoke bravely about the sexual abuse

0:01:03 > 0:01:05he suffered as a young player.

0:01:05 > 0:01:08Today he's back to tell us if enough is being done to keep children safe.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11And how a pioneering scheme could help people who've had cancer

0:01:11 > 0:01:21cope with the fear it might come back.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:01:25 > 0:01:26The Government says housing associations will be allowed

0:01:26 > 0:01:29to build more homes, but will it be enough to bring down

0:01:29 > 0:01:34prices and get more people on the housing ladder?

0:01:34 > 0:01:38Theresa May says building homes quickly is her personal mission.

0:01:38 > 0:01:39If you're priced out of home ownership,

0:01:39 > 0:01:42let us know what measures would help you most.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning,

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0:01:53 > 0:01:54Our top story today.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56Police believe they have now found and identified

0:01:56 > 0:01:58the bodies of everyone who died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01They put the final number of victims at 70, including a stillborn baby.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03In the immediate aftermath of the blaze,

0:02:03 > 0:02:04400 people were listed as missing.

0:02:04 > 0:02:07Police say footage showed 223 people escaping the fire,

0:02:07 > 0:02:09while others were not at home on the night of the fire

0:02:09 > 0:02:11in June this year.

0:02:11 > 0:02:12They said the search and identification operation

0:02:12 > 0:02:19had been "meticulous."

0:02:24 > 0:02:27We are hoping to speak with a police officer from Scotland Yard in the

0:02:27 > 0:02:31next few minutes. In the meantime, we will head over to the newsroom

0:02:31 > 0:02:34and get the latest.

0:02:42 > 0:02:44The future of Zimbabwe's long time leader Robert Mugabe

0:02:44 > 0:02:45remains unclear this morning,

0:02:45 > 0:02:51after he was placed under house arrest by the country's military.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53Two envoys from South Africa have arrived in the capital Harare

0:02:53 > 0:02:56to try to hold talks with the 93-year-old

0:02:56 > 0:02:58and with the country's generals who deny there's been a coup.

0:02:58 > 0:03:02It's been seen by many as a move to prevent Mr Mugabe's wife Grace

0:03:02 > 0:03:07from succeeding him in power.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09Our correspondent Pumza Fihlani is folliwing events from Johannesburg.

0:03:09 > 0:03:14There seems to be in efforts to persuade Robert Mugabe to step aside

0:03:14 > 0:03:17although ZANU-PF says that he is still in charge, so what is going

0:03:17 > 0:03:27on?We expect it to be a long day of talks in Zimbabwe, in its role as

0:03:27 > 0:03:32chair of the region, Jacob Zuma has sent an envoy to the country to try

0:03:32 > 0:03:36to persuade Robert Mugabe and the generals that have led the military

0:03:36 > 0:03:40takeover to come to some sort of agreement. What is not clear is what

0:03:40 > 0:03:47those talks will actually put on offer. There are rumours that, there

0:03:47 > 0:03:49are conversations about a power-sharing deal that will take

0:03:49 > 0:03:54the country into next year, and into the elections next year. Also on

0:03:54 > 0:03:58offer they are talking about an option for the president to step

0:03:58 > 0:04:03down and the vice president, Emerson and am, to take over, but at this

0:04:03 > 0:04:08moment, none of that has taken place, but we understand talks are

0:04:08 > 0:04:12about to take place being led by the African government. To the very

0:04:12 > 0:04:15install stability. -- Emmerson Mnangagwa. The nature of that will

0:04:15 > 0:04:18purely depend upon what president Robert Mugabe sees as a fair process

0:04:18 > 0:04:24out of the crisis he finds himself in at the moment.Thank you very

0:04:24 > 0:04:27much for that update.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29Plans to encourage housing associations to borrow money

0:04:29 > 0:04:35to invest in new homes will be announced later.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37The government is to wipe about £70 billion-worth

0:04:37 > 0:04:39of debt from housing associations' balance sheets, allowing them

0:04:39 > 0:04:41to raise money more cheaply.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43It comes after Theresa May pledged to kickstart

0:04:43 > 0:04:45a new generation of council house building last month.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47But Labour said there was no coherent plan to address

0:04:47 > 0:04:49the "housing crisis".

0:04:49 > 0:04:51The Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, will use a speech

0:04:51 > 0:04:54in London this morning to set out Labour's spending demands,

0:04:54 > 0:04:55ahead of the Budget next week.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57He'll call for an "emergency budget" for public services

0:04:57 > 0:04:59and urge the government to make

0:04:59 > 0:05:00a "genuine and decisive change of course".

0:05:00 > 0:05:02The Conservatives say Mr McDonnell's plans

0:05:02 > 0:05:12would lead to more debt, higher taxes, and fewer jobs.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14Thousands of women with previously untreatable breast cancer

0:05:14 > 0:05:16are to have access to two new drugs.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18The two have been shown to slow down advanced

0:05:18 > 0:05:20cancer, and can delay the need for chemotherapy.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22They've been approved for NHS use in England,

0:05:22 > 0:05:32after it negotiated a price agreement with the manufacturers.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35The impacts of climate change are already inevitable,

0:05:35 > 0:05:37even if the world immediately and radically cuts its carbon

0:05:37 > 0:05:39dioxide emissions, a new study claims.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41An international research programme called HELIX says sea

0:05:41 > 0:05:43levels will rise by as much as 50 centimetres by the end

0:05:43 > 0:05:45of the century.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47Its findings are being presented at the UN climate talks in Germany,

0:05:47 > 0:05:50where world leaders will discuss the future of the Paris accord,

0:05:50 > 0:05:53the climate change treaty that the United States says it wants

0:05:53 > 0:06:03to withdraw from.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07The number of guns, drugs and fake goods being smuggled into the UK

0:06:07 > 0:06:09could rise after Brexit, unless a "significant" number

0:06:09 > 0:06:10of extra border staff are recruited.

0:06:10 > 0:06:12That's according to a group of MPs.

0:06:12 > 0:06:20The Home Affairs Select Committee says ministers must draw up

0:06:20 > 0:06:22contingency plans to prevent long delays at ports and airports

0:06:22 > 0:06:25if customs controls change when Britain leaves the EU.

0:06:25 > 0:06:31The government says it'll ensure enough resources are available.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33The World Anti-Doping Agency has decided to maintain Russia's

0:06:33 > 0:06:36suspension for being noncompliant. It comes less than three months

0:06:36 > 0:06:38before the Winter Olympics, where Russia could still face a ban by the

0:06:38 > 0:06:40IOC. Russia was suspended after a report detailed a state-sponsored

0:06:40 > 0:06:45doping scheme in 2014.

0:06:45 > 0:06:47The social media companies Facebook and Snapchat are to trial a new

0:06:47 > 0:06:50service offering direct support to victims of cyberbullying. It's after

0:06:50 > 0:06:52a campaign led by the Duke of Cambridge, who set up a taskforce

0:06:52 > 0:06:55looking into the issue 18 months ago. He'll launch a new code of

0:06:55 > 0:06:57conduct for the internet later today - urging young people to "stop,

0:06:57 > 0:07:08speak and support" each other online.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19A 500-year-old painting of Christ, believed to have been created by

0:07:19 > 0:07:22Leonardo da Vinci, has been sold in New York for a record 400 million

0:07:22 > 0:07:24dollars - that's over 300 milion pounds. -- $400 million. -- £300

0:07:24 > 0:07:34million.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38The price for Salvator Mundi, or "Saviour of the World",

0:07:38 > 0:07:41is the highest ever paid for a work of art.

0:07:41 > 0:07:43Da Vinci died in 1519 and there are fewer than 20

0:07:43 > 0:07:45of his paintings in existence.

0:07:45 > 0:07:49Top story now, police investigating the Grenfell Tower tragedy, they say

0:07:49 > 0:07:53that 70 people and a stillborn baby make up the final death toll, I say

0:07:53 > 0:07:59everyone has now been identified. Our correspondent Tom Burridge is at

0:07:59 > 0:08:06New Scotland Yard.It has taken the Met five months to reach this point

0:08:06 > 0:08:11but a few statistics about the tragedy of Grenfell Tower, the

0:08:11 > 0:08:13police investigation involves tens of millions of documents that have

0:08:13 > 0:08:23been seized, more than 300 companies have deemed to have been of

0:08:23 > 0:08:26interest, unprecedented investigation for the Metropolitan

0:08:26 > 0:08:35Police. I'm pleased to say that Stuart Cundy joins us. This grim

0:08:35 > 0:08:40figure, five months to come up with an official death toll, 71 people

0:08:40 > 0:08:44including a stillborn baby, why so long?I think, firstly, I have said

0:08:44 > 0:08:51it before, on behalf of myself and the rest of my colleagues, our

0:08:51 > 0:08:55hearts continue to be with those affected, I cannot imagine the agony

0:08:55 > 0:08:58of those that have died have gone through, from Day 1 it has been a

0:08:58 > 0:09:03priority for us to search Grenfell Tower, find all of those that died,

0:09:03 > 0:09:12recover them with dignity, and subsequently identify them.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15Yesterday, the last two identities of those recovered were confirmed to

0:09:15 > 0:09:19the satisfaction of the coroner. I now know with confidence that the

0:09:19 > 0:09:22number of people who have died as a result of the fire is 71, including

0:09:22 > 0:09:28a stillborn baby. It has taken so long because of the sheer challenge

0:09:28 > 0:09:32that Grenfell Tower has placed on all the emergency services but

0:09:32 > 0:09:34particularly the specialist teams that we used to recover all those

0:09:34 > 0:09:43that have died. 71 people, and it is not about a number, it is about the

0:09:43 > 0:09:46people, it has always been at the heart of what we do. The challenge

0:09:46 > 0:09:50has been immense, we have had specialist teams work through 15 and

0:09:50 > 0:09:54a half tonnes of debris on each and every floor of Grenfell Tower, by

0:09:54 > 0:09:59hand, to find every single fragment they can of all those that have

0:09:59 > 0:10:02died, that has been extremely distressing to the families and

0:10:02 > 0:10:06indeed to those involved in the operation.Your previous estimate

0:10:06 > 0:10:11was roughly 80 people had perished in the tower, why have you taken the

0:10:11 > 0:10:15figure down and reached this official death toll of 70, plus the

0:10:15 > 0:10:21stillborn baby?We have thousands of calls into the bureau, in June,

0:10:21 > 0:10:24based on all the information and the families and next of kin that had

0:10:24 > 0:10:29come forward, we projected the figure might be 80. There is two

0:10:29 > 0:10:33main reasons the number has come down, and I am confident the final

0:10:33 > 0:10:39number is 71, one reason is we are investigating a number of fraud

0:10:39 > 0:10:42investigations where individuals have alleged there is people who

0:10:42 > 0:10:46died within Grenfell Tower. Earlier this month, one-mile pleaded guilty,

0:10:46 > 0:10:51he said his wife and child had died within the fire. The thousands of

0:10:51 > 0:10:56calls we receive reported people missing, one person reported

0:10:56 > 0:11:02missing, 46 separate occasions by different people. We spent months,

0:11:02 > 0:11:05months, our investigators, trying to track down each and every one of

0:11:05 > 0:11:09those people, some of those we have tracked down around the world, we

0:11:09 > 0:11:13are now satisfied they are alive and well. We are at the final number, it

0:11:13 > 0:11:18is 71 people.What do you say to people who are still sceptical,

0:11:18 > 0:11:22because there was a lot of scepticism within the community in

0:11:22 > 0:11:25the days, weeks and months following the tragedy, what do you say to

0:11:25 > 0:11:30someone today that is still questioning this official figure?

0:11:30 > 0:11:35The work we have done as our investigation, not just the recovery

0:11:35 > 0:11:38operation, but we are very fortunate, we have CCTV images of

0:11:38 > 0:11:42all those who came out, only one way in and out of the tower, and footage

0:11:42 > 0:11:48of everybody who came out of the tower on the night. We have video

0:11:48 > 0:11:53footage from police officers. We have concluded that work. 223 people

0:11:53 > 0:11:56came out of Grenfell Tower and survived, which is tremendous that

0:11:56 > 0:12:01so many did come out of such an awful and horrific fire. With

0:12:01 > 0:12:07confidence I can say that 223 people were in the tower that night, not

0:12:07 > 0:12:10all of them were residents, some were visitors, some residents were

0:12:10 > 0:12:14not in the tower on the night. With confidence in terms of those we have

0:12:14 > 0:12:19recovered we can say it is 71 that have died, those 71 were the people

0:12:19 > 0:12:24we were expecting to find. When I went into Grenfell Tower, a few days

0:12:24 > 0:12:28after the fire, after it had been put out, having seen it with my own

0:12:28 > 0:12:33eyes, I honestly thought that it was likely we would not find everybody

0:12:33 > 0:12:37who had died. I'm so pleased for the families and the loved ones of all

0:12:37 > 0:12:42those that died that we have been able to find all those who died,

0:12:42 > 0:12:47recover them, identify them, return as much as we possibly can back to

0:12:47 > 0:12:52families.Thank you very much for joining us, difficult and sensitive

0:12:52 > 0:12:56work for your team, good luck with that. The police investigation is

0:12:56 > 0:13:01very much ongoing, hugely complex investigation, looking at lots of

0:13:01 > 0:13:06potential different parties, and that investigation will probably

0:13:06 > 0:13:17continue for a long time still to come.Thank you very much.

0:13:17 > 0:13:23Do get in touch with us throughout the morning,

0:13:23 > 0:13:26use the hashtag Victoria LIVE, and if you text, you will be charged

0:13:26 > 0:13:27at the standard network rate.

0:13:27 > 0:13:31We will talk about the BBC's annual business price study.Some good

0:13:31 > 0:13:36news, some bad news, the price of football server, we take several

0:13:36 > 0:13:40large surveys and speak to well over 200 clubs across Britain, some of

0:13:40 > 0:13:46the outcomes may surprise you. Three years in a row, ticket prices have

0:13:46 > 0:13:49frozen or have fallen, across the vast majority of clubs. But young

0:13:49 > 0:13:52people have been central to some of the more striking and less positive

0:13:52 > 0:13:57outcomes this year, let's take a look at some of them, we spoke with

0:13:57 > 0:13:581018 to

0:13:58 > 0:14:00look at some of them, we spoke with 1018 to 24-year-olds living in

0:14:00 > 0:14:05Britain and a huge 82% said the cost of football was an obstacle to them

0:14:05 > 0:14:13going to matches. -- we spoke with 1000 18 to 24-year-olds. Only 4% of

0:14:13 > 0:14:18season tickets were bought by young adults. More is being asked of clubs

0:14:18 > 0:14:22to engage with young fans.

0:14:41 > 0:14:43If you look at the

0:14:43 > 0:14:46If you look at the average age of a season holder, it is still in the

0:14:46 > 0:14:53mid-40s. Really, that is a generation, my generation, that go

0:14:53 > 0:14:58to matches regularly, still in the habit now, but actually, the next

0:14:58 > 0:15:03generation don't go regularly because they don't have access, or

0:15:03 > 0:15:07affordability issues. When they get to our age, when we have moved on

0:15:07 > 0:15:11and we are not going any more, that's next wave of fans will not be

0:15:11 > 0:15:13there.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16You can find all you need to know about the price of football study on

0:15:16 > 0:15:17the website.

0:15:26 > 0:15:30I wanted to talk about Russia's chances of getting to the Winter

0:15:30 > 0:15:37Olympics.Looking slim. That's right, four Russian athletes and

0:15:37 > 0:15:42there are chances of taking part in the Winter Olympics, very slim,

0:15:42 > 0:15:49apparently the Russian federation still not compliant with the anti

0:15:49 > 0:15:55doping regulations. Why has this happen? Essentially, an independent

0:15:55 > 0:15:58compliance review committee took a look into further the necessary

0:15:58 > 0:16:01steps have been taken to lift the ban on their athletes competing, you

0:16:01 > 0:16:07will remember many of them missed out in Rio de Janeiro, it is

0:16:07 > 0:16:11understood Russia still refused to admit to a state-sponsored doping

0:16:11 > 0:16:14programme and that rather key, they will not allow access to many of the

0:16:14 > 0:16:19symbols they have in their Moscow anti doping laboratory to be seen by

0:16:19 > 0:16:23the World Anti-Doping Agency. That will be key, we will see in time

0:16:23 > 0:16:28whether they manage to get their athletes back competing soon.Thank

0:16:28 > 0:16:32you. We will catch up with you throughout the morning.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35So the armed forces have seized control and Zimbabwe's long-time

0:16:35 > 0:16:37leader Robert Mugabe remains under house arrest with his

0:16:37 > 0:16:38future role uncertain.

0:16:38 > 0:16:41But was it a coup which is when power is seized from a government?

0:16:41 > 0:16:51The military insists not but the world remains unconvinced.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54The country was left stunned

0:16:54 > 0:16:56after the army took power on Tuesday and confined the 93-year-old

0:16:56 > 0:16:58veteran leader, once seen as a liberation hero,

0:16:58 > 0:16:59to his home.

0:16:59 > 0:17:03Soldiers took control of the state broadcaster and had this to say:

0:17:03 > 0:17:07We wish to assure the nation that his Excellency, the President of the

0:17:07 > 0:17:14Republic of Zimbabwe and Commander in Chief of the Zimbabwe defence

0:17:14 > 0:17:20forces, comrades Robert Mugabe and his family are safe and sound and

0:17:20 > 0:17:26there are security is guaranteed. We are only targeting criminals around

0:17:26 > 0:17:33him. Who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic

0:17:33 > 0:17:46suffering in the country in order to bring them to justice.The so-called

0:17:46 > 0:17:50criminals are widely thought to refer to

0:17:50 > 0:17:52The so-called criminals are widely thought to

0:17:52 > 0:17:54Mr Mugabe's much younger and controversial wife Grace -

0:17:54 > 0:17:56she's made no secret of wanting to take power.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58Nicknamed 'Gucci Grace' by her critics over her love

0:17:58 > 0:18:00for designer labels, she is 41 years her

0:18:00 > 0:18:01husband's junior.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03She's now reportedly fled to Namibia.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05Her rival for the succession was Mugabe's deputy

0:18:05 > 0:18:08Emerson Mnan-gagwa who was sacked by the Zimbabwe President last week

0:18:08 > 0:18:10- a man popular and respected by Zimbabwe veterans.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32So Zimbabweans now face an uncertain future and are playing

0:18:32 > 0:18:34a waiting game to see what happens next.

0:18:34 > 0:18:39Mugabe is the only President the country has known

0:18:39 > 0:18:49for the past 37 years -

0:18:49 > 0:18:51he's ruled Zimbabwe with an iron

0:18:51 > 0:18:53grip since it gained independence from the UK in 1980 -

0:18:53 > 0:18:56to his fans, he's a nationalist hero who liberated the nation from white

0:18:56 > 0:18:59rule - to his many enemies, he's a brutal dictator who ruled

0:18:59 > 0:19:01by fear and ruined his country.

0:19:01 > 0:19:09We can chat about the ongoing situation now with Zenzale

0:19:09 > 0:19:13Ndebele, who lives in a city called Bulawayo

0:19:13 > 0:19:17in Zimbabwe; Richard Dowden, who's been writing about Zimbabwe

0:19:17 > 0:19:19for decades and is the director of the Royal Africa Society;

0:19:19 > 0:19:22Priscilla Misihairabwi, an opposition MP who was in Harare

0:19:22 > 0:19:24yesterday as the military moved in and Jason Burke,

0:19:24 > 0:19:28the Africa Editor at The Guardian.

0:19:28 > 0:19:33you are a couple of hours ahead of us in is badly, it is mid-morning,

0:19:33 > 0:19:36give us a sense of whether people are going about their normal

0:19:36 > 0:19:43day-to-day business.Basically things are quiet, soldiers in the

0:19:43 > 0:19:51streets, roadblocks manned by soldiers. The highways that are

0:19:51 > 0:19:56leading out to Bulawayo. The road that leads to South Africa, there is

0:19:56 > 0:20:07a road block and loss of sound that is the city is generally quiet.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11Those sites of soldiers in the streets.You have a slightly

0:20:11 > 0:20:16scratchy Skype line, we will try and clean that up, Priscilla, in Harare

0:20:16 > 0:20:25today.Perhaps it is a little different from Bulawayo, we still

0:20:25 > 0:20:32have soldiers at strategic points. In Parliament, there are soldiers.

0:20:32 > 0:20:39And the head office, the headquarters and the number of

0:20:39 > 0:20:44ministers like foreign affairs are housed and of course, on the

0:20:44 > 0:20:50highway, you still have soldiers manning roadblocks.Jason, tell us,

0:20:50 > 0:20:55I know you have spoken to lots of people about how they are feeling in

0:20:55 > 0:20:59Harare. Do you get a sense people are pleased about what's happened or

0:20:59 > 0:21:04is there a sense of nervousness?I have been in and out of Zimbabwe

0:21:04 > 0:21:09several times in the last month, the fact that most people I speak to in

0:21:09 > 0:21:15Harare are expressing a degree of relief comes as no surprise. The

0:21:15 > 0:21:20situation over the last years in Zimbabwe has been really dire,

0:21:20 > 0:21:26economic league, primarily but also from a political perspective. People

0:21:26 > 0:21:34are just very happy there is now the possibility that things might

0:21:34 > 0:21:38change. Outside Zimbabwe a lot of people are talking about democratic

0:21:38 > 0:21:41process, governments and constitutions, inside Zimbabwe they

0:21:41 > 0:21:48are talking about the economy. A lot of people, unemployed who have been

0:21:48 > 0:21:51unemployed for a long time, they are looking for some kind of hope that

0:21:51 > 0:21:56things will turn around. Quite who brings it to them is secondary issue

0:21:56 > 0:22:04at the moment.Richard, they are very keen in Zimbabwe, the party of

0:22:04 > 0:22:08Robert Mugabe and the military to say this is not a coup but explain

0:22:08 > 0:22:12to people via this is happening, this isn't necessarily going against

0:22:12 > 0:22:20Robert Mugabe, this is Grace Mugabe? Robert Mugabe, now 93-94 loses it

0:22:20 > 0:22:26every so often, you can see in speeches he wanders off, falls

0:22:26 > 0:22:30asleep, she has stepped in and tried to take over, really, and that's

0:22:30 > 0:22:39what worried the Army. I think where we go from here, I'm not sure but

0:22:39 > 0:22:46it's the fact he's not able to rule the country any more and I think the

0:22:46 > 0:22:51military just felt there's got to be a change. But they didn't do it like

0:22:51 > 0:22:56they do in most African countries, where a general steps up and says I

0:22:56 > 0:23:01am the new President. They are much more concerned to make a

0:23:01 > 0:23:05constitutional, inclusive, this is quite a wise move and they aren't

0:23:05 > 0:23:11not saying they haven't... They have just let him go home. Grace Mugabe

0:23:11 > 0:23:16who is behind all of this and has been using his weakness to try and

0:23:16 > 0:23:23impose her people and I think succeed him and I think that's what

0:23:23 > 0:23:30the Army does not like and I ink most Zimbabweans do not like.Jason

0:23:30 > 0:23:38from, but this is not to be seen as a coup, surely it requires Robert

0:23:38 > 0:23:41Mugabe to stand up and say I am standing aside and there will be an

0:23:41 > 0:23:45election or someone else within the party is going to be put forward?

0:23:45 > 0:23:50Absolutely and that is where we are at the moment, I understand talks or

0:23:50 > 0:23:57ongoing between the military and Mugabe. The only card that Mugabe

0:23:57 > 0:24:05has to play is that one, he is the only person who can resign in a way

0:24:05 > 0:24:12that looks constitutional, past the bat and, if you like, to Emerson,

0:24:12 > 0:24:18the Vice President he fired last week. Saying he is now retiring from

0:24:18 > 0:24:22public life and that he is doing this for the benefit of the nation,

0:24:22 > 0:24:26or some simpler form of that. If he does that it looks like an internal

0:24:26 > 0:24:34party issue that has been carefully mediated in a forceful way by the

0:24:34 > 0:24:42military. All in-line with the use of the ruling party and the heroes

0:24:42 > 0:24:47of the independence movement. If he doesn't and he has to be forced out

0:24:47 > 0:24:53or somehow retired in a way that does not look constitutional, then

0:24:53 > 0:25:03the Army are going to carry out a military takeover.Let's head back

0:25:03 > 0:25:06to Zimbabwe. We have cleared up those communication lines,

0:25:06 > 0:25:11Priscilla, do you agree that's what has to happen, Robert Mugabe has to

0:25:11 > 0:25:18hand over power for this to be accepted?Definitely. He needs to

0:25:18 > 0:25:28hand over power. There is an issue we need to deal with. In spite of

0:25:28 > 0:25:34what the military is seen, it is, it is a military coup but however, I

0:25:34 > 0:25:42agree with the earlier comments, when the military took over the one

0:25:42 > 0:25:49thing that some of us were happy about was that they spoke about the

0:25:49 > 0:25:54need to adhere to the Constitution. In fact, when the general came on

0:25:54 > 0:26:05and made his statement he truly... Loss of sound... To protect the

0:26:05 > 0:26:13people of Zimbabwe and the constitution. For what he is insane

0:26:13 > 0:26:18to us now is how do we hold the military to the things that they

0:26:18 > 0:26:21have said? If they are going to be inspecting the constitution we have

0:26:21 > 0:26:28to make sure that we can go back to the ruler of law and the lost a

0:26:28 > 0:26:34manned by the military that is imposing in the street, we

0:26:34 > 0:26:39understand this is a dire situation, things were done not in a normal

0:26:39 > 0:26:43way, some of us would have been democratically active, that does not

0:26:43 > 0:26:52mean that we...Forgive me if jumping in, your Skype line is

0:26:52 > 0:26:56jumping so slightly. What would you like to see happen now in the

0:26:56 > 0:27:02country?I want to agree entirely with Priscilla, my programme right

0:27:02 > 0:27:12now is that people will say, it was not a clue. Bruce was a coup! If it

0:27:12 > 0:27:23looks like a duck and quacks like a duck than it then it is a duck. You

0:27:23 > 0:27:27keep talking about the former Vice President coming back to take power,

0:27:27 > 0:27:32for him to come back that means something needs to be regulated, he

0:27:32 > 0:27:38needs to be accepted back into the party. If he comes to government

0:27:38 > 0:27:45Robert Mugabe needs to rescind his decision, otherwise the Army takes

0:27:45 > 0:27:50over, puts in a puppet government and pretends it's constitutional.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53The roadblocks manned by the soldiers, how long are they going to

0:27:53 > 0:28:04be mistreated? We are rested, the Minister that we hear, reaching a

0:28:04 > 0:28:07point, the constitution of Zimbabwe, we think for 48 hours they are

0:28:07 > 0:28:11supposed to be taking him to Court. I don't think anyone should be

0:28:11 > 0:28:15overexcited and forget to look at the human rights, this human rights

0:28:15 > 0:28:26are observed... We are approaching almost 48 hours now. Who is

0:28:26 > 0:28:33currently in charge?We will watch with interest. Thank you all for

0:28:33 > 0:28:40speaking to us. I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us today.

0:28:40 > 0:28:42Still to come...

0:28:42 > 0:28:45It's a year since Andy Woodward made the decision to go public

0:28:45 > 0:28:47about the abuse he suffered as a child at the hands

0:28:47 > 0:28:50of his football coach, now he's back to talk to us

0:28:50 > 0:28:52about how speaking out has changed his life.

0:28:52 > 0:28:55What happens when you've been given the all clear from cancer

0:28:55 > 0:28:57but you can't shake feelings of sadness and anxiety

0:28:57 > 0:28:58and you don't understand why?

0:28:58 > 0:29:01We'll talk about a new therapy to help cancer survivors look

0:29:01 > 0:29:02after their mental health.

0:29:06 > 0:29:13Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

0:29:13 > 0:29:19The headlines and BBC News. Police say they now think they have found

0:29:19 > 0:29:22and identified the bodies of everyone who died in the Grenfell

0:29:22 > 0:29:26Tower tragedy. The number of victims are at 71 including a stillborn

0:29:26 > 0:29:30baby. In the immediate aftermath 400 people were listed as missing,

0:29:30 > 0:29:35police say footage so 223 people escaping the firefight lovers were

0:29:35 > 0:29:39not at home on the night of the fire in June this year. They said the

0:29:39 > 0:29:43search and identification operation had been meticulous.When I went

0:29:43 > 0:29:48into Grenfell Tower Sundays after the fire, that had been put out,

0:29:48 > 0:29:53having seen it with my own eyes I honestly thought that it was likely

0:29:53 > 0:29:57we would not find everybody who had eyed and I am so pleased for the

0:29:57 > 0:30:02families, the loved ones of all those who died that we have been

0:30:02 > 0:30:06able to find all those who died, recover them, identify them, return

0:30:06 > 0:30:09as much as we possibly can back to their families.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11The future of Zimbabwe's long time leader Robert Mugabe

0:30:11 > 0:30:12remains unclear this morning,

0:30:12 > 0:30:15after he was placed under house arrest by the country's military.

0:30:15 > 0:30:17Two envoys from South Africa have arrived in the capital Harare

0:30:17 > 0:30:19to try to hold talks with the 93-year-old

0:30:19 > 0:30:22and with the country's generals who deny there's been a coup.

0:30:22 > 0:30:25It's been seen by many as a move to prevent Mr Mugabe's wife Grace

0:30:25 > 0:30:27from succeeding him in power.

0:30:35 > 0:30:37Plans to encourage housing associations to borrow money

0:30:37 > 0:30:39to invest in new homes will be announced later.

0:30:39 > 0:30:41The government is to wipe about £70 billion-worth

0:30:41 > 0:30:43of debt from housing associations' balance sheets, allowing them

0:30:43 > 0:30:44to raise money more cheaply.

0:30:44 > 0:30:46It comes after Theresa May pledged to kickstart

0:30:46 > 0:30:49a new generation of council house building last month.

0:30:49 > 0:30:51But Labour said there was no coherent plan to address

0:30:51 > 0:31:01the "housing crisis".

0:31:20 > 0:31:23Missing explorer Benedict Allen has been cited alive in Papua New

0:31:23 > 0:31:32Guinea.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35A 500-year-old painting of Christ, believed to have been created

0:31:35 > 0:31:37by Leonardo da Vinci, has been sold in New York

0:31:37 > 0:31:40for a record 400 million dollars - that's over 300 milion pounds.

0:31:40 > 0:31:41-- $400 million.

0:31:41 > 0:31:42-- £300 million.

0:31:42 > 0:31:44The price for Salvator Mundi, or "Saviour of the World",

0:31:44 > 0:31:47is the highest ever paid for a work of art.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49Da Vinci died in 1519 and there are fewer than 20

0:31:49 > 0:31:56of his paintings in existence.

0:32:00 > 0:32:03Russia's hopes of competing at the Winter Olympics in February have

0:32:03 > 0:32:07been dealt a blow today after the world anti-doping agency ruled the

0:32:07 > 0:32:14country is still noncompliant with the code, Russia had been suspended

0:32:14 > 0:32:20since 2015 after a doping programme was uncovered. Mark Stoneman will be

0:32:20 > 0:32:24top of the batting order, scoring a sentry on day two of England's final

0:32:24 > 0:32:31warm up game, you might remember the groovy and Sharman from yesterday,

0:32:31 > 0:32:34they have claimed the final place at the World Cup next year, they have

0:32:34 > 0:32:41beaten New Zealand, 2-0. -- shaman.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46It's a year to the day since the former professional footballer Andy

0:32:46 > 0:32:49Woodward appeared live on this programme to talk about the sexual

0:32:49 > 0:32:51abuse he suffered as a young player in the 1990s. This was him speaking

0:32:51 > 0:33:01to Victoria on November 16th last year.

0:33:01 > 0:33:10I think that any person that has suffered abuse and rape etc, will

0:33:10 > 0:33:13hopefully understand where I come from when I say this, the impact it

0:33:13 > 0:33:19has had on my life is catastrophic, and you live with that all your

0:33:19 > 0:33:24life, and I cannot put it into words, what that has done to me, but

0:33:24 > 0:33:30other people out there will understand what it does to you.

0:33:30 > 0:33:34Everyone always said to me, how do you cope, how do you deal, we

0:33:34 > 0:33:44survive, and that is it.

0:33:44 > 0:33:46His appearance on this programme and in the Guardian newspaper encouraged

0:33:46 > 0:33:48others to come forward. Police forces around the country have now

0:33:48 > 0:33:58received calls or information. -- have now received calls or

0:33:58 > 0:33:59information from 784 victims of abuse connected to football. 285

0:33:59 > 0:34:02suspects have been identified and 331 clubs have been impacted from

0:34:02 > 0:34:05Premier League to amateur level. The age range for victims at the time of

0:34:05 > 0:34:08the abuse runs from four years old up to 20 years old. A number of

0:34:08 > 0:34:10clubs have now opened their own investigations into what happened

0:34:10 > 0:34:12and whether they did enough to protect young players. The Football

0:34:12 > 0:34:14Association has also started its own independent inquiry into the sexual

0:34:14 > 0:34:16abuse scandal led by a senior lawyer. That is expected to report

0:34:16 > 0:34:19back around Easter next year. A similar inquiry has been launched by

0:34:19 > 0:34:26the Scottish FA.

0:34:26 > 0:34:32We can speak with Andy now, thank you for coming back. I can't imagine

0:34:32 > 0:34:35how hard it is for you to look back at that interview when you were

0:34:35 > 0:34:39talking last year, it must seem like more than one year ago.Quite

0:34:39 > 0:34:46emotional, watching it back, because it has been a really difficult year.

0:34:46 > 0:34:49I'm thinking back now, with the numbers you have read out, I am

0:34:49 > 0:34:53really proud that I did speak out and I was the first to talk about

0:34:53 > 0:35:03this, but it has been a difficult 12 months to say the least. Ypres when

0:35:03 > 0:35:06what it has been like, when you took that incredibly difficult decision,

0:35:06 > 0:35:10you could not have possibly known the impact it was going to have on

0:35:10 > 0:35:15your life.-- explain what it has been like.I knew that there was a

0:35:15 > 0:35:22number of expires out there, but I did not foresee the difficulties I

0:35:22 > 0:35:28have had. -- ex players out there. Some people have felt let down by

0:35:28 > 0:35:33certain individuals, it has affected my relationship, my previous

0:35:33 > 0:35:37relationships, in terms of the devastating effect it has had on my

0:35:37 > 0:35:42children, my family, but I have kept the strength to continue, and there

0:35:42 > 0:35:46has been difficult times, there really has. But I have continued

0:35:46 > 0:35:52with that, with that in a passion that I have got to help children in

0:35:52 > 0:35:57the future.You talk about that, you have your own children, has it been

0:35:57 > 0:36:01hard for them in particular?It has been very difficult for them because

0:36:01 > 0:36:08of everything that has happened, it has affected my children, I won't

0:36:08 > 0:36:13lie to you.Do you take strength from the fact that those numbers,

0:36:13 > 0:36:19foot At The Races 700 people have come forward, 285 suspects, is that

0:36:19 > 0:36:25what keeps you going? -- fact that those numbers, more than 700 people

0:36:25 > 0:36:29have come forward.I'm all about positivity, I want a positive

0:36:29 > 0:36:34outlook for the future, I have several projects I have been doing

0:36:34 > 0:36:38over the last 12 months, one of them being that I have met a female

0:36:38 > 0:36:42called Kelly Walsh, we have a positivity Power movement, focused

0:36:42 > 0:36:49around children. I'm doing things, I'm trying to make a positive future

0:36:49 > 0:36:52for the next generation going through, and that is so important in

0:36:52 > 0:36:58terms of what I have been trying to say. 12 months ago, with Greg Clark

0:36:58 > 0:37:04and the FA, I said what the vision was.Have you had much support from

0:37:04 > 0:37:08within football, because we are all aware of what a Matt Schaub culture

0:37:08 > 0:37:21it can be, and how lots of banter, and manliness. -- Matt -- macho

0:37:21 > 0:37:28culture. How has football cared for you over the last year?I will be

0:37:28 > 0:37:36honest with you, football has not done enough, we are one year on, I

0:37:36 > 0:37:39have had numerous meetings with them, some of them have been

0:37:39 > 0:37:47negative. But it is one year on and a year has passed without any

0:37:47 > 0:37:56significant changes. It is disappointing to say that. But I

0:37:56 > 0:38:02have had a meeting with the FA, briefly, yesterday, and I discussed

0:38:02 > 0:38:06some things with them and I hope that in the future, we can strive to

0:38:06 > 0:38:11make those significant changes.What are the changes you want to see that

0:38:11 > 0:38:15the FA has the power to bring about? I have discussed it numerous times

0:38:15 > 0:38:22with them, a holistically and, I met them in June, it is all around

0:38:22 > 0:38:26making that significant change and it has to happen now. I just hope

0:38:26 > 0:38:31that they will listen to me this time. I have also met with and

0:38:31 > 0:38:35spoken to the sports minister, Tracey Crouch, she is fully behind

0:38:35 > 0:38:40what I'm trying to achieve with this.I want to read some of the

0:38:40 > 0:38:43statement the FA sent to us when they knew that we were speaking with

0:38:43 > 0:38:46you this morning, they say, one year on, we acknowledge the bravery who

0:38:46 > 0:38:50have broken their silence, they say they have redoubled their efforts to

0:38:50 > 0:38:54ensure that every child and young person as a safe fun experience

0:38:54 > 0:38:58playing or participating and survivors of football related abuse

0:38:58 > 0:39:03remain able to access the therapeutic support with sporting

0:39:03 > 0:39:06chance, they talk about the independent review, due to report at

0:39:06 > 0:39:12Easter. Is that enough?It is not enough, and I have discussed in a

0:39:12 > 0:39:18private meeting what needs to happen. Just a few weeks ago, and

0:39:18 > 0:39:23this has spurred me on even more, I am even more determined is out, more

0:39:23 > 0:39:27passionate, just a few weeks ago in Parliament, what was said by Mr

0:39:27 > 0:39:32Clark upset me.Explain that, for people who did not hear that

0:39:32 > 0:39:37evidence.He spoke out in Parliament and discussed about a private

0:39:37 > 0:39:42meeting I had with him last year, and made reference to a former

0:39:42 > 0:39:47player crying like a baby... That deeply upset me. So I needed to

0:39:47 > 0:39:51explain that to him that it had upset me, and I am more determined

0:39:51 > 0:39:55now than I have ever been, more positive now about a positive

0:39:55 > 0:39:59future, that I will continue, with the support from the sports

0:39:59 > 0:40:04Minister, to make this significant change now. It needs to happen now,

0:40:04 > 0:40:07we cannot wait until the end of this independent review. A year ago I

0:40:07 > 0:40:12said about what the vision was making positive changes. They need

0:40:12 > 0:40:17to happen now. I'm so determined to make that happen.You say you have

0:40:17 > 0:40:22spoken with the sports Minister, it was yesterday that you spoke to her

0:40:22 > 0:40:26and she is very supportive, what is it that she is going to do, how will

0:40:26 > 0:40:31she get involved?It was a private conversation but she has said that

0:40:31 > 0:40:35she is going to speak and meet with Greg Clark in the future, to discuss

0:40:35 > 0:40:39the matters.

0:40:39 > 0:40:45You think children are safe in the game today than they were one year

0:40:45 > 0:40:49ago?Personally, after doing all the studies and research and the groups

0:40:49 > 0:40:54of people that have supported me over the last year, I do not believe

0:40:54 > 0:40:58that it is a safer place than one year ago. But I have the tools and

0:40:58 > 0:41:03the knowledge and the understanding and also the groups of people around

0:41:03 > 0:41:09me that can make that change now, and will make it, a much safer place

0:41:09 > 0:41:15for children because that is what it is all about. This cannot happen

0:41:15 > 0:41:18again, what happened all them years ago, to all these players, this

0:41:18 > 0:41:24cannot happen again.What would you say to parents watching this and

0:41:24 > 0:41:31thinking, how do I know if my child is safe now? Can you give them any

0:41:31 > 0:41:35advice?It is difficult, on live television, to explain, but that is

0:41:35 > 0:41:40one of the key areas that I do want to fill trade out to football clubs,

0:41:40 > 0:41:44to give them an understanding of what to look out for. I am equipped

0:41:44 > 0:41:50to do that. Having a number of years of abuse, a number of years of

0:41:50 > 0:41:55mental health issues, and mental health and well-being is another

0:41:55 > 0:41:58fundamental thing in football, and in all sports and all walks of life,

0:41:58 > 0:42:04that needs to change.You have had an incredibly tough year since you

0:42:04 > 0:42:09were here, I know that you lost your father a few months ago as well,

0:42:09 > 0:42:14which was another thing for you to deal with, difficult year.It has

0:42:14 > 0:42:19been, and I said last year that my father was proud of me, and I needed

0:42:19 > 0:42:26him to be proud and let go of that feeling, you know, they were so

0:42:26 > 0:42:30devastated with what happened to me. He passed away in August, that has

0:42:30 > 0:42:33been difficult. He had motoneuron disease, I don't think enough is

0:42:33 > 0:42:37done for that disease, because it is crippling, one of the worst things I

0:42:37 > 0:42:42have ever seen, watching my father disappear. I would love to support

0:42:42 > 0:42:47any organisations that do all the work they are doing for motoneuron

0:42:47 > 0:42:53disease, because it really is devastating.Also, I want to ask you

0:42:53 > 0:43:00before you go, if you could turn back the clock, one year ago, would

0:43:00 > 0:43:03you do it all again, knowing what you have been through in this last

0:43:03 > 0:43:08year?After seeing the numbers, as much as it has had a massive effect

0:43:08 > 0:43:14on my relationship and my family, and people letting me down... I am

0:43:14 > 0:43:20so proud of myself for doing it it has gone global, across the world,

0:43:20 > 0:43:25people now, we have a voice, people in America speaking out, in

0:43:25 > 0:43:28Parliament, people have that courage to speak out and that is what I am

0:43:28 > 0:43:33proud of. I will continue to be proud of it and I will do this, I

0:43:33 > 0:43:39will, because it is my life. I was put on this planet to make a change.

0:43:39 > 0:43:43One year from now, what you want to see change, what realistically do

0:43:43 > 0:43:48you think can have been changed?A positive future for children, that

0:43:48 > 0:43:52is it, I am equipped with every tool in the box to do that, and I hope

0:43:52 > 0:43:57the FA and Greg Clark see that I am that person to make this change and

0:43:57 > 0:44:01do this for the future of the game, because it is needed. I have

0:44:01 > 0:44:06everything inside me plus the fashion that I will make that change

0:44:06 > 0:44:10for them.Thank you so much for coming on, thank you for your

0:44:10 > 0:44:14bravery.I'm sorry for getting emotional.Do not ever apologise for

0:44:14 > 0:44:18getting emotional.

0:44:18 > 0:44:20When you've been given the all clear from cancer,

0:44:20 > 0:44:22how can you overcome the fear that the disease might,

0:44:22 > 0:44:23at some point, come back?

0:44:23 > 0:44:26We'll hear more about how cancer survivors can stay on top

0:44:26 > 0:44:31of their mental health.

0:44:33 > 0:44:35Getting the all-clear when you've had cancer is always

0:44:35 > 0:44:37going to be good news, but despite this, some

0:44:37 > 0:44:38patients report lingering feelings of anxiety,

0:44:38 > 0:44:40isolation, even post-traumatic stress disorder after their

0:44:40 > 0:44:41treatment has finished.

0:44:41 > 0:44:43Now a new project led by Queen Mary University

0:44:43 > 0:44:45of London is investigating whether talking-based

0:44:45 > 0:44:52therapies could help them.

0:44:52 > 0:44:54If pilots in London and Sheffield are successful, the treatment

0:44:54 > 0:44:59could be rolled out to other areas.

0:44:59 > 0:45:05Here to talk to us about it now is the lead researcher,

0:45:05 > 0:45:06Professor Stephen Taylor, alongside Patrick Williams,

0:45:06 > 0:45:08Adrienne Morgan and Faye Morey who have all struggled mentally

0:45:08 > 0:45:15after cancer treatment.

0:45:15 > 0:45:19Apologies, I do not know who each of you are, so do apologise as you come

0:45:19 > 0:45:20in.

0:45:30 > 0:45:36Say, is it your birthday today? It is. Someone did tell me. Happy

0:45:36 > 0:45:46birthday. Tell me, when you become cancer free, how do you then feel?

0:45:46 > 0:45:52It's quite hard and quite lonely as well. You have basically had all

0:45:52 > 0:45:58these people and all this support and this whirlwind of emotion, and

0:45:58 > 0:46:02then you finish treatment and it's really hard. Personally for me, I

0:46:02 > 0:46:07felt I wanted to get back into normal life. The cause of the cancer

0:46:07 > 0:46:12and treatment and fatigue, I couldn't really do that. It caused

0:46:12 > 0:46:16quite bad anxiety and not I wanted to get back into normal life but had

0:46:16 > 0:46:21to do it slowly, I pushed myself and it did and really go the way I

0:46:21 > 0:46:25wanted to and I ended up getting panic attacks and anxiety and it was

0:46:25 > 0:46:32really hard.Patrick, for about you, you had cancer six times. Yes. What

0:46:32 > 0:46:39on earth does that do to your mental health if nothing else?I can tell

0:46:39 > 0:46:45you at one time I did not want to live any more because every time

0:46:45 > 0:46:49when someone would come and tell me, by the way, we found something

0:46:49 > 0:46:53again, it took that much more away from me and I felt as if my whole

0:46:53 > 0:46:59world was caving in all the time. I've had panic attacks, terrible

0:46:59 > 0:47:03dreams, waking up in a hot sweat and crying for no reason, just in

0:47:03 > 0:47:10public. I just thought I had to do something and I must do something.

0:47:10 > 0:47:16My support structure was Macmillan, they helped me quite a bit but

0:47:16 > 0:47:20unfortunately with all services like a lot of these, it's limited to the

0:47:20 > 0:47:23resources and there weren't any other resources outside that to help

0:47:23 > 0:47:30me through the rest so I had to do this by myself.Adrienne, how did

0:47:30 > 0:47:33you cope, some people watching this who haven't been through cancer may

0:47:33 > 0:47:37think, wouldn't you be elated when you are taught you are cancer free,

0:47:37 > 0:47:46explained, is it about the fear it might come back?For me, it has come

0:47:46 > 0:47:51back so I have got metastatic breast cancer, I got that some years ago

0:47:51 > 0:47:57and what happens to me and to me and my husband, we were offered through

0:47:57 > 0:48:07the palliative care service, a therapist. And he came and helped us

0:48:07 > 0:48:13unbelievably because we were getting very angry with each other. And 40

0:48:13 > 0:48:20helped us see was that it was the cancer that we were angry with and

0:48:20 > 0:48:28so instead of me... Him getting cross with me because I couldn't do

0:48:28 > 0:48:31something and me saying, don't get cross with me and then him feeling

0:48:31 > 0:48:36guilty because he had got cross and me feeling guilty because I'd made

0:48:36 > 0:48:42him feel guilty... What the therapist got us to do was say, I

0:48:42 > 0:48:46would start getting cross with him about where he is putting things in

0:48:46 > 0:48:50the dishwasher! And he would put his arms round and say you are tired,

0:48:50 > 0:48:56why don't you go and sit down and I will make you some tea. And perhaps

0:48:56 > 0:49:02a gin, that sort of talking therapy made such a big difference to the

0:49:02 > 0:49:07way we have been able to cope and I had been able to cope with this

0:49:07 > 0:49:13incurable condition that I have got. Because that must really play on

0:49:13 > 0:49:19your mind all the time. You've had it for seven years, you know it's

0:49:19 > 0:49:27incurable.Yes, and it's like a Damocles hanging over me. Through

0:49:27 > 0:49:29the therapy, one way I was dealing with that was pretending that was

0:49:29 > 0:49:35not happening. And he gave me, the therapist gave me permission to be

0:49:35 > 0:49:43in denial and pretend it's not happening. And he asked me once, for

0:49:43 > 0:49:47what would you be doing now if you didn't have this diagnosis? And I

0:49:47 > 0:49:53thought that was a really good question. So he said, just plan your

0:49:53 > 0:49:59life. Pretend it's not happening. And that was so empowering. I have

0:49:59 > 0:50:06very bad times, I get angry or yes, I get angry, whiny and it's not

0:50:06 > 0:50:17fair. But that's the way it is. And it's about, its acceptance and

0:50:17 > 0:50:23coming to realise the new normal and making the most of life within the

0:50:23 > 0:50:27new normal and it's hard. But it helps if you have some professional

0:50:27 > 0:50:33input.Before I bring in Professor Steph Taylor, Patrick, were you

0:50:33 > 0:50:41offered any kind of therapy as we hear Adrian describing?When I

0:50:41 > 0:50:47mentioned and I said accidentally to my clinician that I had ideas that I

0:50:47 > 0:50:55wanted to end my life, straight away I was sent to a clinical

0:50:55 > 0:50:57psychologist and prescribed antidepressants and I did not want

0:50:57 > 0:51:01to have anything to do with that at all and I thought big mistake, I am

0:51:01 > 0:51:05never going to tell anyone this again, I have suppressed this as

0:51:05 > 0:51:09much as possible, especially not telling, so everybody asks me

0:51:09 > 0:51:13questions, how do you feel and I say fine, I do not want to go out and

0:51:13 > 0:51:18tell them anything because the last thing I wanted was to have men

0:51:18 > 0:51:23invite codes coming to take me away. Did you ask for talking therapy?You

0:51:23 > 0:51:26did not know? I did not know anything about this, I knew this was

0:51:26 > 0:51:30happening to me and I mentioned it and that was the explosion that

0:51:30 > 0:51:35happened after and I thought, not a thing to mention, I am going to keep

0:51:35 > 0:51:39this quiet.Professor Taylor, come in on this, explain how it works. We

0:51:39 > 0:51:45have heard about Adrienne's therapy, but explain how this is different.

0:51:45 > 0:51:50We have funding for a large trial to explore in a systematic way the

0:51:50 > 0:51:55routine offering of acceptance commitment therapy which is a token

0:51:55 > 0:51:58-based therapy, as people come to the end of cancer treatment, what we

0:51:58 > 0:52:01hope as we will identify people struggling more than others with

0:52:01 > 0:52:05emotional problems, some of the people here I think would have the

0:52:05 > 0:52:10ideal candidates for the study and we will offer them a course of

0:52:10 > 0:52:13except ins and commitment therapy and the really appealing thing about

0:52:13 > 0:52:19this talking therapy is that it is personal based, based on the

0:52:19 > 0:52:25person's own values so it's very person centred.So it's furry

0:52:25 > 0:52:30realistic about what can be achieved.It's called acceptance and

0:52:30 > 0:52:33commitment therapy, excepting for cannot be changed up some people

0:52:33 > 0:52:35that is the risk of curtains and committing yourself to values based

0:52:35 > 0:52:40goals and things but as well as that we know that physical activity is

0:52:40 > 0:52:44really important because tiredness is a huge problem after cancer. For

0:52:44 > 0:52:49those people who want to get back to physical activity, team members from

0:52:49 > 0:52:53Sheffield who are experts in cancer and physical activity will develop

0:52:53 > 0:52:57modules that will help support those people and again, many people who

0:52:57 > 0:53:02have had cancer don't get back to work even though they want to and

0:53:02 > 0:53:05for a third of those it's about emotional reasons we hope to be able

0:53:05 > 0:53:11to support those people and work with our team about vocational

0:53:11 > 0:53:15qualifications, helping people who want to get back to work.As a young

0:53:15 > 0:53:19person, what sort of support did you get, did you get any kind of talking

0:53:19 > 0:53:21therapy when you were having your panic attacks and feeling

0:53:21 > 0:53:27frustrated?I went to my local hospital, I got treated on a teenage

0:53:27 > 0:53:34Cancer trust port at Addenbrooke's but my local hospital offered me

0:53:34 > 0:53:42three Macmillan, like Iain McMillan charity based funded counselling, a

0:53:42 > 0:53:48set amount of sessions that I could have and that helped me. And that

0:53:48 > 0:53:50helped me figure out why I was having panic attacks and being able

0:53:50 > 0:53:55to control them. And I think it's a really good thing and it really

0:53:55 > 0:54:00helped me and by anxiety after treatment.Thank you all for coming

0:54:00 > 0:54:05on and being so honest and sharing your experiences. I am so grateful.

0:54:05 > 0:54:10Let me read you some comments that have been coming in about the

0:54:10 > 0:54:14conversation we had with Andy Woodward in the last few minutes.

0:54:14 > 0:54:19Sandy on Facebook says I have just watched the interview, what a

0:54:19 > 0:54:22wonderfully brave man and I wish him all the best for the future. Well

0:54:22 > 0:54:26done for speaking out. Julie says, amazing, so brave, keep strong.

0:54:26 > 0:54:33David says Andy Woodward did the right things speaking about abuse in

0:54:33 > 0:54:36sport, he's helped more than he's ever likely to know. Lots of friends

0:54:36 > 0:54:42say everything about them and them alone, the guy is a stark, and

0:54:42 > 0:54:46better nurturing friends will come into a new and positive life for

0:54:46 > 0:54:52him. So many here, Andy Woodward, hard to hear this account, I admire

0:54:52 > 0:54:55your bravery, there are times we have to do the right thing despite

0:54:55 > 0:54:58the losses and challenges and glad that despite all that's happened

0:54:58 > 0:55:05over the last year you too could steps to keep children safe. Now how

0:55:05 > 0:55:09much are we spending on the high street? The league latest retail

0:55:09 > 0:55:14sales figures have just come out and Emmett Simpson is here. Let me come

0:55:14 > 0:55:19across to speak to you, for the latest figures telling us? -- Emma

0:55:19 > 0:55:25Simpson.They haven't been as bad as some people were expecting. We know

0:55:25 > 0:55:27October has been a pretty challenging month because we've had

0:55:27 > 0:55:31a lot of other surveys out but looking at these figures, the

0:55:31 > 0:55:38official statistics, but at what is happening year on year, we compared

0:55:38 > 0:55:42October two last October, the amount of stuff shoppers bought was up to

0:55:42 > 0:55:54.8% on the year but the volumes were down. We spent more and bought less

0:55:54 > 0:55:58so the volume of goods was down 0.3%, that's the first time that

0:55:58 > 0:56:03measure has fallen in about four years, we are spending more and

0:56:03 > 0:56:07buying less and that's because prices have been rising.That's what

0:56:07 > 0:56:10I was going to ask is it because we are buying more expensive items or

0:56:10 > 0:56:15coping with inflation?People are being more cautious because they are

0:56:15 > 0:56:19spending, wages have not in keeping up with the cost of living and we've

0:56:19 > 0:56:24been seeing that in the last few months. What is interesting, the

0:56:24 > 0:56:27other measure, what happened month on month. According to the Office

0:56:27 > 0:56:32for National Statistics, Labour, there was a little bit of growth

0:56:32 > 0:56:36compared with September and an interesting point they were making,

0:56:36 > 0:56:43they sought second-hand goods stores, charity goods stores, option

0:56:43 > 0:56:47houses, providing the largest contribution to the tiny bit of

0:56:47 > 0:56:52growth we solve month on month. But I think it's fair to say looking

0:56:52 > 0:56:57back on October eight was a pretty challenging month. For retailers.

0:56:57 > 0:57:02Especially in non-food, the weather for instance has been really mind,

0:57:02 > 0:57:06who wants to go out and buy boots and woolly coats when it's this one?

0:57:06 > 0:57:10I think the big question for retailers is what does this tell us

0:57:10 > 0:57:15about what lies ahead? We are entering the crucial trading...

0:57:15 > 0:57:16Christmas!

0:57:20 > 0:57:22Christmas is coming, retailers are nervous about what will happen. And

0:57:22 > 0:57:26Black Friday coming up.Is that

0:57:30 > 0:57:36Friday, the big one, that will give us a clue as to how consumers will

0:57:36 > 0:57:39spend this Christmas. Could they have been holding back in October,

0:57:39 > 0:57:44saving for Black Friday? Of course, look at the high Street, there are

0:57:44 > 0:57:51sales everywhere, discounts the law already. So I think Black Friday

0:57:51 > 0:57:54will be interesting to see what shoppers are up to.Emma, thank you

0:57:54 > 0:58:01for explaining that to us.

0:58:01 > 0:58:02Lets get the latest weather update - with Matt Taylor.

0:58:06 > 0:58:11I think the weather we are likely to see in the next few days will boost

0:58:11 > 0:58:15the sales of warm coats. The rain pushing through here, temperatures

0:58:15 > 0:58:19dropping, this cold front responsible, moving to northern

0:58:19 > 0:58:25England. To the south, feeling pleasant. To the north, colder air,

0:58:25 > 0:58:33sunnier, gales and severe gales this morning in Scotland for a time, by

0:58:33 > 0:58:37the end of the afternoon, south-west England, southern England, towards

0:58:37 > 0:58:41parts of East Anglia, patchy rain and drizzle, a little bit of

0:58:41 > 0:58:45sunshine, 14 degrees the highest. Single digit temperatures further

0:58:45 > 0:58:49north, a mild night last night, colder night tonight, showers wintry

0:58:49 > 0:58:55over the Hells, he'll too low levels across Scotland, clear skies

0:58:55 > 0:58:59elsewhere, widespread frost away from the towns and cities. Your

0:58:59 > 0:59:04Friday morning commute here and crispy, frosty, lots of sunshine

0:59:04 > 0:59:08around to start the day, patchy cloud, parts of western England,

0:59:08 > 0:59:13Wales and Northern Ireland, the bulk of the showers to the north and west

0:59:13 > 0:59:17of Scotland, heavy with hail and thunder possible, sleet and snow

0:59:17 > 0:59:20higher ground, most of us a dry day on Friday, single digit temperatures

0:59:20 > 0:59:26through the afternoon, around 8-9d at best. Cold air Friday night, into

0:59:26 > 0:59:29the start of the weekend, battle taking place this weekend between

0:59:29 > 0:59:36cold air and mild are, the net result on Saturday, cloud for

0:59:36 > 0:59:40England and Wales, patchy rain and result not of affecting everyone,

0:59:40 > 0:59:45back to double digit temperatures, single figures further north, one or

0:59:45 > 0:59:50two showers, the battle continuing into Sunday. Cold northerly wind in

0:59:50 > 0:59:53the east of the country, whether France dry to push on from the west

0:59:53 > 0:59:57bringing cloud and patchy rain. I quickly that moves in, uncertain at

0:59:57 > 1:00:01the moment, looking at the moment that you will stay dry central and

1:00:01 > 1:00:06eastern areas but feeling chilly. That's how it's looking in the UK, a

1:00:06 > 1:00:12quick look at Europe, severe floods in Greece and Italy. Those

1:00:12 > 1:00:15conditions continuing for some over the next few days, severe low

1:00:15 > 1:00:18pressure through the central Mediterranean, continuing to

1:00:18 > 1:00:22circulate and could strengthen further through southern Italy, down

1:00:22 > 1:00:27through the Adriatic awards Greece, we see severe thunderstorms and

1:00:27 > 1:00:30further flooding. Only by the time we hit the weekend will the storms

1:00:30 > 1:00:35ease.

1:00:44 > 1:00:46All the victims of the Grenfell Tower tragedy have

1:00:46 > 1:00:47now been identified.

1:00:47 > 1:00:54The police have told us 70 people died, including a still-born baby.

1:00:54 > 1:00:58The challenge of it has been immense, specialist teams have

1:00:58 > 1:01:01worked through 15 and a half tonnes of debris on each and every floor of

1:01:01 > 1:01:06Grenfell Tower, by hand, to find every single fragment they can of

1:01:06 > 1:01:10all those that died, that has been extremely distressing to the

1:01:10 > 1:01:22families and to those involved in the operation as well.

1:01:22 > 1:01:23Stop.

1:01:23 > 1:01:25Speak.

1:01:25 > 1:01:26Support - that's today's message being delivered

1:01:26 > 1:01:28by the Duke of Cambridge, as he launches a new campaign

1:01:29 > 1:01:33Happens in the playground, when it can be seen, but online, only one of

1:01:33 > 1:01:35you seize it and it is so personal

1:01:35 > 1:01:43full is toplater we will be speaking with one victim who tried

1:01:43 > 1:01:51to take his own life when he was a teenager for the And Canadian

1:01:51 > 1:01:54rapper, Drake, stopped his gig in Sydney in the middle of a set, after

1:01:54 > 1:02:06he saw one of the people in the audience being groped.

1:02:14 > 1:02:17We'll speak to one fan who was there Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

1:02:17 > 1:02:23with a summary of todays news.

1:02:23 > 1:02:25Police believe they have now found and identified the bodies

1:02:25 > 1:02:27of everyone who died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

1:02:27 > 1:02:31They put the final number of victims at 71 including a stillborn baby.

1:02:31 > 1:02:33In the immediate aftermath of the blaze, 400 people

1:02:33 > 1:02:34were listed as missing.

1:02:34 > 1:02:36Police say footage showed 223 people escaping the fire,

1:02:36 > 1:02:39while others were not at home on the night of the fire

1:02:39 > 1:02:40in June this year.

1:02:40 > 1:02:42They said the search and identification operation

1:02:42 > 1:02:46had been "meticulous."

1:02:46 > 1:02:49When I went into Grenfell Tower a few days after the fire which had

1:02:49 > 1:02:55been put out, having seen it with my own eyes, I honestly thought that it

1:02:55 > 1:02:58was likely we would not find everybody who had died. I'm so

1:02:58 > 1:03:02pleased for the families and loved ones of all those that died that we

1:03:02 > 1:03:09have been able to find all those who died, recover them, identify them,

1:03:09 > 1:03:16return as much as we possibly can back to their families.

1:03:16 > 1:03:18The future of Zimbabwe's long time leader Robert Mugabe remains

1:03:18 > 1:03:21unclear this morning, after he was placed under house

1:03:21 > 1:03:22arrest by the country's military.

1:03:22 > 1:03:24Two envoys from South Africa have arrived in the capital, Harare,

1:03:24 > 1:03:26to try to hold talks with the 93-year-old

1:03:26 > 1:03:29and with the country's generals who deny there's been a coup.

1:03:29 > 1:03:32It's been seen by many as a move to prevent Mr Mugabe's wife Grace

1:03:32 > 1:03:42from succeeding him in power.

1:03:49 > 1:03:52Figures out this morning reveal that retail sales fell by 0.3% in October

1:03:52 > 1:03:54compared to the same month last year. Despite the annual fall, the

1:03:54 > 1:03:56Office of National Statistics says that the underlying pattern is "one

1:03:56 > 1:03:59of growth" when looking at the three month figure which shows a rise of

1:03:59 > 1:04:010.9% in the quantity of goods people bought.

1:04:01 > 1:04:03Plans to encourage housing associations to borrow money

1:04:03 > 1:04:05to invest in new homes will be announced later.

1:04:05 > 1:04:07The government is to wipe about £70 billion worth

1:04:07 > 1:04:09of debt from housing associations' balance sheets, allowing them

1:04:09 > 1:04:10to raise money more cheaply.

1:04:10 > 1:04:12It comes after Theresa May pledged to kickstart

1:04:12 > 1:04:14a new generation of council house building last month.

1:04:14 > 1:04:17But Labour said there was no coherent plan to address

1:04:17 > 1:04:18the "housing crisis".

1:04:18 > 1:04:20Thousands of women with previously untreatable breast cancer

1:04:20 > 1:04:22are to have access to two new drugs.

1:04:22 > 1:04:25The two have been shown to slow down advanced cancer, and can delay

1:04:25 > 1:04:26the need for chemotherapy.

1:04:26 > 1:04:28They've been approved for NHS use in England,

1:04:28 > 1:04:38after it negotiated a price agreement with the manufacturers.

1:04:39 > 1:04:40The missing British explorer Benedict Allen

1:04:40 > 1:04:42has been seen "alive and well"

1:04:42 > 1:04:43near an airstrip in Papua New Guinea.

1:04:43 > 1:04:46He had been travelling on his own to try to find

1:04:46 > 1:04:56the reclusive Yaifo tribe, whom he first met 30 years ago.

1:05:02 > 1:05:07So many of you getting intact with us after that conversation with Andy

1:05:07 > 1:05:10Woodward, you may remember the emotional interview that Victoria

1:05:10 > 1:05:14did with him and other former footballers, coming back to tell us

1:05:14 > 1:05:21about how things have changed. A tweet, he should be very proud for

1:05:21 > 1:05:25speaking out. Robert says: so much respect for this guy, incredible

1:05:25 > 1:05:28that even in this age of historical and current abuse claims, we are

1:05:28 > 1:05:33still having to jump through hoops to make any progress. We are living

1:05:33 > 1:05:38in the dark ages. Andy had me in tears yet again this morning, 12

1:05:38 > 1:05:42months on and every time since in between, what a wonderful

1:05:42 > 1:05:49inspirational brave man, I hope the BBC can pass on all of our love and

1:05:49 > 1:05:55support. Stefanie: please tell Andy, you are amazing. Stuart has got in

1:05:55 > 1:05:59touch on Twitter, staggering, I am not a follower of football, but for

1:05:59 > 1:06:03Andy's incredible bravery in bringing attention to this, I can

1:06:03 > 1:06:06now say, I have a favourite footballer. Keep those thoughts

1:06:06 > 1:06:16coming.

1:06:21 > 1:06:24The BBC's Price of Football survey is out, and for the third year in a

1:06:24 > 1:06:26row the average ticket price has either fallen or stayed the same.

1:06:26 > 1:06:29Our reporter Katherine Downes is at the home of Premier League side

1:06:29 > 1:06:34Stoke City. A lot for football fans to mull over.All the figures out,

1:06:34 > 1:06:38lots of numbers to crunch, I am here at Stoke City, one of the majority

1:06:38 > 1:06:41of Premier League clubs where prices are pretty much stayed the same or

1:06:41 > 1:06:46even fallen over the past three years. Match day ticket will cost 25

1:06:46 > 1:06:52quid here, the most popular season ticket costs £344, £200 less than

1:06:52 > 1:06:58the Premier League average, and the essential warm high at pretty Chile

1:06:58 > 1:07:02Stoke City cost £3 20, although the price of five across the Premier

1:07:02 > 1:07:08League has gone up 5%, apparently due to inflation according to the

1:07:08 > 1:07:13club. -- chilly. 30 to £35, the match day, pretty much the same as

1:07:13 > 1:07:19last timeyear, is it enough to keep people coming back? Perhaps not, for

1:07:19 > 1:07:29the first time the BBC has survey 1018 to 24 -- 1000 18 to

1:07:29 > 1:07:3324-year-olds and 56% of them have said that they actually go to fewer

1:07:33 > 1:07:37matches as a consequence of the expense. To talk more about this,

1:07:37 > 1:07:43Adrian Hirst, head of community here at Stoke City. How concerned are you

1:07:43 > 1:07:47that fewer 18 to 24-year-olds there to be going to Premier League

1:07:47 > 1:07:52matches.Always concerned when someone provides evidence that there

1:07:52 > 1:07:55is an age group and demographic that are not attending, what we would

1:07:55 > 1:07:59like to do is look at the numbers, crunch them, see what the impact of

1:07:59 > 1:08:04the report says on the club.Lots of your fans queueing up to buy tickets

1:08:04 > 1:08:08for the game with Tottenham at Wembley, tickets just released, lots

1:08:08 > 1:08:13of them older gentleman, very few young people here, have you noticed

1:08:13 > 1:08:18your demographic getting over?No, as a football club we work hard to

1:08:18 > 1:08:21make sure that football is affordable for everybody, firstly,

1:08:21 > 1:08:25because it needs to be, and we make sure we work hard to make sure young

1:08:25 > 1:08:29people and when I say young people, we have a very clear focus on making

1:08:29 > 1:08:32sure primary school children can access Premier League football and

1:08:32 > 1:08:37we are working very hard there, this year we have given away 8000 free

1:08:37 > 1:08:40shirts and we are giving away 16,000 free tickets to come and watch games

1:08:40 > 1:08:45as well. So I think we are trying to address that balance in making sure

1:08:45 > 1:08:49we have young supporters attending games. But we also need to look at

1:08:49 > 1:08:54the evidence and runs the numbers and see what evidence comes out.

1:08:54 > 1:08:57White is there perhaps a case where, yes, primary schoolchildren are

1:08:57 > 1:09:01coming with parents but once people start to go into the workplace, and

1:09:01 > 1:09:06their own money, Premier League football is not good value for money

1:09:06 > 1:09:11for people who are on entry-level wages.

1:09:12 > 1:09:15Understand what you are saying but looking at the office for the age

1:09:15 > 1:09:21group you looked at, under 21, you can attend a game for £13.60, I

1:09:21 > 1:09:29don't think that is a bad offer. I think that in the study it said

1:09:29 > 1:09:34going to away games and the cost of away games was something of concern,

1:09:34 > 1:09:36but we have offered free of away supporters travel for the past five

1:09:36 > 1:09:41years. We send an official code, travel to any Premier League away

1:09:41 > 1:09:46game in the country, it costs nothing.Thank you very much for

1:09:46 > 1:09:50that insight about how you are doing at Stoke City to encourage younger

1:09:50 > 1:09:54fans. If you are encouraged in how much it is costing you at your club,

1:09:54 > 1:09:58go to the website, a calculator will tell you how much the price of

1:09:58 > 1:10:12football is for your team. Thank you very much for joining us.

1:10:17 > 1:10:19Police investigating the Grenfell tower tragedy say the final number

1:10:19 > 1:10:22of people now known to have died in the blaze is 71,

1:10:22 > 1:10:23including a still-born baby.

1:10:23 > 1:10:31They've also established that 223 people escaped the fire.

1:10:31 > 1:10:36Five months on from the fire, this is a significant moment, because the

1:10:36 > 1:10:39Metropolitan Police have said this morning that they have recovered the

1:10:39 > 1:10:43remains from everyone who they believe died that dreadful night, in

1:10:43 > 1:10:49other words, they will not be finding the remains of anyone else.

1:10:49 > 1:10:53They have said they have carried out a mammoth and meticulous search,

1:10:53 > 1:10:58working layer by layer through the building, and get it search at

1:10:58 > 1:11:02times, 16 tonnes of debris they have had to work through. A short time

1:11:02 > 1:11:06earlier at Scotland Yard, Commander Stuart Cundy, police officer,

1:11:06 > 1:11:11responsible for this recovery operation, spoke to my colleague Tom

1:11:11 > 1:11:20Burridge.The heart of myself and the rest of my colleagues continues

1:11:20 > 1:11:25to be with those affected, I cannot imagine the agony that the family of

1:11:25 > 1:11:30those who have died have gone through. From Day 1 it has been a

1:11:30 > 1:11:33priority to search Grenfell Tower, find all those that died, recover

1:11:33 > 1:11:38them with dignity, and subsequently identify them, and yesterday, the

1:11:38 > 1:11:42last two identities of those that were recovered were confirmed to the

1:11:42 > 1:11:46satisfaction of the coroner. I now know, with confidence, the number of

1:11:46 > 1:11:51people that have died as a result of the fire is 71, sadly including a

1:11:51 > 1:11:58stillborn baby. It has taken so long because of the sheer challenge that

1:11:58 > 1:12:01Grenfell Tower has placed on all the emergency services but particularly

1:12:01 > 1:12:08the specialist teams that we used to recover all those that had died. 71

1:12:08 > 1:12:12people, and it is not about the number, it is about the people, that

1:12:12 > 1:12:15has aways been at the heart of what we do. The challenge has been

1:12:15 > 1:12:21immense, specialist teams working through 15.5 tonnes of debris, on

1:12:21 > 1:12:25each and every floor of Grenfell Tower, by hand, to find every single

1:12:25 > 1:12:30fragment that they can of all those who have died full of that has been

1:12:30 > 1:12:32extremely distressing to the families and to those involved in

1:12:32 > 1:12:39the operation.The Met have been pushing the boundaries of what was

1:12:39 > 1:12:45scientifically possible in order to identify the people who died.-- of

1:12:45 > 1:12:51all those who have died. It has been extreme you distressing to the

1:12:51 > 1:12:55families and to those involved in the operation.The focus now shifts

1:12:55 > 1:12:58onto the council in terms of what happens to the building, some sort

1:12:58 > 1:13:02of covering will continue to go up, and there is a public enquiry, so

1:13:02 > 1:13:05the criminal side of things, certainly in terms of the recovery

1:13:05 > 1:13:12of victims and their remains, that seems to be coming to an end now.

1:13:12 > 1:13:14There is another side to the criminal investigation, who was

1:13:14 > 1:13:19liable for this, why did the tragedy take place, these questions will

1:13:19 > 1:13:24continue in the coming weeks, months, and probably years.

1:13:26 > 1:13:29Two envoys from South Africa have arrived in Zimbabwe's capital,

1:13:29 > 1:13:31Harare, to try to hold talks with President Mugabe.

1:13:31 > 1:13:33He's been placed under house arrest by the country's military,

1:13:33 > 1:13:35whose generals deny there's been a coup.

1:13:35 > 1:13:38The army says this is an attempt to deal with what they described

1:13:38 > 1:13:40as "criminals" around the ageing president.

1:13:40 > 1:13:42That's widely seen as a reference to Mr Mugabe's much younger

1:13:42 > 1:13:51and controversial wife; she's made no secret of wanting to take power.

1:13:51 > 1:13:56Here's a quick look at who she is.

1:14:55 > 1:14:58I see her as somebody who's in the position she is purely

1:14:58 > 1:15:02by virtue of the fact that she's married to Robert Mugabe.

1:15:02 > 1:15:03She's somebody who embarrasses them.

1:15:03 > 1:15:06The very thought that she was in a position where she might have

1:15:06 > 1:15:09become Robert Mugabe's air apparent at a special conference in December

1:15:09 > 1:15:11meant that the military were going to have to move

1:15:11 > 1:15:14in their view to install the man that they want

1:15:14 > 1:15:16and that's Emmerson Mnangagwa.

1:15:29 > 1:15:31Let's speak to our correspondent who can bring us

1:15:36 > 1:15:39I have got off the phone with the Department for International affairs

1:15:39 > 1:15:50closely monitoring what's going on. -- our correspondent can bring us

1:15:50 > 1:15:56up-to-date with what's happening. No opposition party is involved at this

1:15:56 > 1:16:01stage, it's essentially a leadership battle between the former Vice

1:16:01 > 1:16:05President and his supporters and supporters of President Mugabe. At

1:16:05 > 1:16:08the moment South Africans are trying to broker a deal that will see

1:16:08 > 1:16:13stability restored not just for Zimbabwe but the indications within

1:16:13 > 1:16:19the region in that South Africa is home to millions of South Africans

1:16:19 > 1:16:21who have sought economic opportunities and it's important for

1:16:21 > 1:16:27them to make sure peace remains in that country. And that the school in

1:16:27 > 1:16:31inverted, is does not deteriorate further.We were having a

1:16:31 > 1:16:36conversation in our goal about this and that was the view amongst

1:16:36 > 1:16:39Zimbabweans and people covering the country that Robert Mugabe needs to

1:16:39 > 1:16:43come out and say I am standing down and handing over power for this to

1:16:43 > 1:16:48be seen as a credible, simple transition. Do we get any sense that

1:16:48 > 1:16:54is likely to happen?That's a difficult one to answer. We

1:16:54 > 1:16:57understand what the South Africans are going for as part of the

1:16:57 > 1:17:01mediation process is a democratic solution, that would involve

1:17:01 > 1:17:05possibly persuading the President to see reason but this is somebody who

1:17:05 > 1:17:10has held onto power for 37 years, it's unlikely he will go down

1:17:10 > 1:17:19without much of a fight.Good to speak to you. Let's speak to them

1:17:19 > 1:17:23who lives in Harare and as a human rights activist. In 2008 he

1:17:23 > 1:17:28successfully sued the Mugabe regime provider late in the role of law and

1:17:28 > 1:17:34human rights in the country, we can speak to a guest to is a resident of

1:17:34 > 1:17:42Harare. And I will start by speaking to you, tell us the situation in

1:17:42 > 1:17:46Harare at the moment, I think it's probably coming up to mid-a the

1:17:46 > 1:17:51moment, isn't it?It's almost mid-day and the situation looks

1:17:51 > 1:17:55quite calm, I think it's much better than it was yesterday. It seems to

1:17:55 > 1:18:01have been you know, a bit of increased business activity today

1:18:01 > 1:18:06come per to what we saw yesterday. But of course there is still the

1:18:06 > 1:18:12prevalence of the military in the streets and Erica Ding roads that

1:18:12 > 1:18:14are heading towards particular government buildings such as

1:18:14 > 1:18:18Parliament and the office of the President. What I should say in

1:18:18 > 1:18:28other parts, like Uptown, it really looks like business as usual.What

1:18:28 > 1:18:34do you want to see happening? Are you happy for a transition, maybe

1:18:34 > 1:18:39over to the former Vice President or would you support Grace Mugabe,

1:18:39 > 1:18:48where you stand?As a pro-democracy activist, this is a very tricky

1:18:48 > 1:18:55situation, Catch-22. Number one, I do not condone military intervention

1:18:55 > 1:19:07as a solution. But given the fact that we have had problems with you

1:19:07 > 1:19:12know, instituting leadership renewal I think the military intervention is

1:19:12 > 1:19:20sort of like a necessary instrument in terms of challenging Robert

1:19:20 > 1:19:25Mugabe and has power. I am excited that has happened but I am worried

1:19:25 > 1:19:32about the transition and what it will look like, given the fact that

1:19:32 > 1:19:36Mr Mugabe, look at the military, one thing is quite clear for me from the

1:19:36 > 1:19:45statements issued, what they want to achieve is stability within Zanu PF,

1:19:45 > 1:19:49and they are ensuring they have perpetuated the route within this

1:19:49 > 1:19:53country. Some of us really feel we are not comfortable with it and we

1:19:53 > 1:20:00are not sure if it is going to bring about massive democratic change that

1:20:00 > 1:20:06we want to see in Zimbabwe, its Catch-22. But it's a step towards

1:20:06 > 1:20:14the necessary direction that needs to be taken in this country.We only

1:20:14 > 1:20:18have Ben on the phone, can you explain to be above the conditions

1:20:18 > 1:20:21of life inside Zimbabwe, the struggle for jobs, food,

1:20:21 > 1:20:28hyperinflation. Outline that and how it affects your life.Well, I think

1:20:28 > 1:20:34one of the biggest problems is we have 90% unemployment, no one is

1:20:34 > 1:20:38investing in the country because no one has any confidence, we have a

1:20:38 > 1:20:43government that steals everything it can. We have got police, we have had

1:20:43 > 1:20:48police roadblocks were ever you move on the roads, those have been

1:20:48 > 1:20:53replaced by army roadblocks and it seems at this stage the Army for

1:20:53 > 1:21:02better than police to try and extort money at every roadblock. Army at

1:21:02 > 1:21:08this stage, reasonably friendly. We have had the odd incident, I came

1:21:08 > 1:21:14across an army roadblock of 200 Army guys all with guns. I managed to get

1:21:14 > 1:21:19through it without incident but I know a motorist had to kneel in the

1:21:19 > 1:21:26river and obviously we are worried about discipline and whether

1:21:26 > 1:21:31discipline will get out of hand with the Army. But just as far as

1:21:31 > 1:21:37everyday life is concerned, life does go on in very straight and

1:21:37 > 1:21:43circumstances and cases. There are continual people say we cannot take

1:21:43 > 1:21:49this any longer. We are leaving and just as more than a quarter of the

1:21:49 > 1:21:56population have done in the past within the last decade or so. So

1:21:56 > 1:21:59there is the continual situation of not having money, not being able to

1:21:59 > 1:22:07get money from the banks, the rate if you try and transfer money from

1:22:07 > 1:22:13your bank account to someone else's bank account is about 80% less than

1:22:13 > 1:22:20the value of paying cash. Because cash is now impossible to get in

1:22:20 > 1:22:27fact at the bank the other day I tried to get some cash, withdrawing

1:22:27 > 1:22:31maybe $20 a day, there is absolutely zero. You cannot draw even a single

1:22:31 > 1:22:39cent.Everything you paint sums up the dire situation in Zimbabwe and

1:22:39 > 1:22:46why so many Zimbabweans are pleased to see the start possibly of a

1:22:46 > 1:22:51transition. Ben, thank you ever so much for it speaking to us and Janus

1:22:51 > 1:22:58as well. Still to come. Stop, speak, support, that is the message being

1:22:58 > 1:23:01delivered by the Duke of Cambridge as he launches a campaign to tackle

1:23:01 > 1:23:10the scourge of cyber bullying.

1:23:10 > 1:23:12The Government is setting out plans this morning to allow housing

1:23:12 > 1:23:14associations to build more homes.

1:23:14 > 1:23:18The minister in charge of housing Sajid Javid is explaining how this

1:23:18 > 1:23:22will work this morning.

1:23:22 > 1:23:27Here is a little bit of what he has had to say so far.But represents

1:23:27 > 1:23:31the highest level of net additions since the depths of the recession

1:23:31 > 1:23:36and it's the first time in almost a decade that the 200,000 milestone

1:23:36 > 1:23:43has been reached. Yesterday the housing minister signed papers that

1:23:43 > 1:23:48will allow housing associations to be reclassified as private sector

1:23:48 > 1:23:55organisations. Free from the shackles of public sector

1:23:55 > 1:23:58bureaucracy associations will be able to concentrate on their core,

1:23:58 > 1:24:00crucial omission of building homes.

1:24:00 > 1:24:02And later Theresa May will say building more homes

1:24:02 > 1:24:04is her personal priority.

1:24:04 > 1:24:06Today's plans come ahead of next week's budget where it's

1:24:06 > 1:24:08widely expected stamp duty will be cut.

1:24:08 > 1:24:10So will these measures enough to help people

1:24:10 > 1:24:15onto the housing ladder?

1:24:15 > 1:24:21Thank you all for coming in.

1:24:21 > 1:24:23Lets talk now Austen Reid from the UK's biggest housing

1:24:23 > 1:24:25association Clarion, Lynda Clarke the editor

1:24:25 > 1:24:28of the 'First Time Buyers' magazine, David Montague the Chief Executive

1:24:28 > 1:24:30of L&Q another of the country's biggest housing associations,

1:24:30 > 1:24:32and from Manchester) Laura Henderson a single

1:24:32 > 1:24:37mother struggling to get on the property ladder,

1:24:37 > 1:24:40and also struggling to get a foot in the door is Head Chef

1:24:40 > 1:24:41Richard Francis

1:24:41 > 1:24:45from Whitchurch.

1:24:45 > 1:24:48Thanks for coming in, Richard, I want to speak to you firstly, give

1:24:48 > 1:24:52us a sense why you are not able to make that transition from ending to

1:24:52 > 1:24:55buying your home.What specifically is holding you back? The initial

1:24:55 > 1:25:02deposit really, the outlay that you have got to have to be able to buy

1:25:02 > 1:25:06your first property. Certainly when you are renting, it's very difficult

1:25:06 > 1:25:09to be able to save because you are paying more than a mortgage while in

1:25:09 > 1:25:16rent. That's what makes it hard.And is this something you are also

1:25:16 > 1:25:21hearing, Linda?Very much so, this is the big Rob, young people or

1:25:21 > 1:25:24anybody that wants to buy their first home cannot get the money

1:25:24 > 1:25:29together for the deposit. Of course there are government schemes it's

1:25:29 > 1:25:33only a 5% deposit but even that can be tough. Obviously we can all said

1:25:33 > 1:25:38don't go on by takeaway is, don't go on holiday, save money this way and

1:25:38 > 1:25:45that but life has to be lived as well and it's very hard. I think the

1:25:45 > 1:25:48bank of mum and dad is being used more than ever but you know, that

1:25:48 > 1:25:53isn't really the answer.And not possible for lots of mums and dads,

1:25:53 > 1:25:58they don't have the cash. Richard shaking his head as we talk.

1:25:58 > 1:26:02Exactly, a Lord of mums and dads, they have more than one Austrian,

1:26:02 > 1:26:05they have to do it for everybody and it would be a killer.It's

1:26:05 > 1:26:11difficult. David, how big a difference will these changes make

1:26:11 > 1:26:15with the housing associations ability that the government is

1:26:15 > 1:26:23suggesting to build new homes?Today we have heard Sajid Javid will be

1:26:23 > 1:26:28reclassified housing associations as private sector, we've been borrowing

1:26:28 > 1:26:31since 1998, £70 billion investing in new homes and overnight we found we

1:26:31 > 1:26:34were going to be classified as public sector and that meant in

1:26:34 > 1:26:38future it would not be our decision whether we would borrow to invest in

1:26:38 > 1:26:41homes, to be the decision of the Chancellor and he would have to

1:26:41 > 1:26:45think about the needs of the other sectors including the NHS. The

1:26:45 > 1:26:53announcement today means our future, we can deliver future plans, we plan

1:26:53 > 1:26:57in my organisation to build 100,000 homes over ten years. We can go

1:26:57 > 1:27:02ahead and do that, we will invest and raise money from the city.

1:27:02 > 1:27:05Carrie and her plans to deliver another 50,000 homes, they can go

1:27:05 > 1:27:10ahead and raise the money they need. The sector as a whole, intends to

1:27:10 > 1:27:13treble the number of new homes we provide and this means we can go

1:27:13 > 1:27:18ahead and do that.These 100,000 homes, will they be rented, to

1:27:18 > 1:27:24buy...In the case of Dell and Q, half the homes we build will be for

1:27:24 > 1:27:35home ownership or co-ownership and the other will be home ownership. We

1:27:35 > 1:27:40must ensure a path to affordable ownership and Richard, I want to

1:27:40 > 1:27:43encourage you to look in the Clarion website and check out various

1:27:43 > 1:27:48schemes available to how people in your circumstances.I want to bring

1:27:48 > 1:27:54you in, Austen. I know you are also a developer, a home-builder as well

1:27:54 > 1:27:57as a housing association, and one of the criticisms has been developers

1:27:57 > 1:28:01by land, hold onto it and don't actually build quickly enough, you

1:28:01 > 1:28:07think that figure criticism?I think often land is delayed because it

1:28:07 > 1:28:14needs schools, roads, important infrastructure. I think most

1:28:14 > 1:28:18developers want to get the land and build houses as quickly as possible.

1:28:18 > 1:28:23However there is only a limited rate that housing for sale can be

1:28:23 > 1:28:26absorbed into the market. One of the advantages that housing associations

1:28:26 > 1:28:30have is that we build low-cost rented housing, but can be absorbed

1:28:30 > 1:28:35much quicker, people can be housed much quicker than they can through

1:28:35 > 1:28:43the sale and as a result we can build houses and use the land much

1:28:43 > 1:28:47better.Is this going to make renting and buying homes cheaper,

1:28:47 > 1:28:53the fact you can build more homes? It's going to, the government said

1:28:53 > 1:28:57last year the housing market was broken. Housing associations provide

1:28:57 > 1:29:01that solution because it means we can provide more housing for those

1:29:01 > 1:29:04people who cannot meet their housing need on the market.I was looking on

1:29:04 > 1:29:09your website, too- three-bedroom apartments in north-east London

1:29:09 > 1:29:13going for nearly half £1 million, not many people can afford that, it

1:29:13 > 1:29:18needs to come down, Richard, you need those prices to come down?

1:29:18 > 1:29:23Doesn't matter for you are in the country, I moved from a Cheshire

1:29:23 > 1:29:28postcode to a Shropshire postcode, it's four miles down the road, saved

1:29:28 > 1:29:33me lots of money each month, for me there is no affordable housing at

1:29:33 > 1:29:39the moment, the word affordable is thrown around quite likely in my

1:29:39 > 1:29:45opinion. 5% deposit on a new-build house, look at trying to buy a house

1:29:45 > 1:29:49outright with a mortgage, you are looking 15- £20,000 to even get on

1:29:49 > 1:29:57the ladder. That's with 5% stamp duty solicitor fees and that and for

1:29:57 > 1:30:01me, affordable houses building a two-bedroom house that can go on the

1:30:01 > 1:30:06market at £100,000, you know, it may be smaller, whatever, but at least

1:30:06 > 1:30:13then there are is a way of being able to get that.We see that line

1:30:13 > 1:30:17has dropped out but he makes a valid point, David, is that fair? People

1:30:17 > 1:30:22aren't building right sort of houses for people like Richard?

1:30:22 > 1:30:25For people who are in Richard's circumstances it is really difficult

1:30:25 > 1:30:31at the moment, if you are in London, the average price of a home is

1:30:31 > 1:30:37£600,000, to buy that home, you need a deposit of 150,000.Who has that!

1:30:37 > 1:30:45It is crazy, the average London salary, 35,000, 14,000 for some, and

1:30:45 > 1:30:48homeownership is out of reach for many people, an increasing number of

1:30:48 > 1:30:53people. In my view, the answer isn't to put all aids into the

1:30:53 > 1:30:57homeownership basket, we need to invest in more affordable housing.

1:30:57 > 1:31:04Force developers to not build any big expensive houses, and a few

1:31:04 > 1:31:08affordable houses, make an entire plot of land about affordable

1:31:08 > 1:31:13housing, should that be forced?I think it should be forced in some

1:31:13 > 1:31:17ways, because otherwise, you are never going to get to the first

1:31:17 > 1:31:21step. You need to build communities, you need to have a mixture, but it

1:31:21 > 1:31:27does not mean you have multi-million pound houses and then the poor boys

1:31:27 > 1:31:31all around the site. What you need to do is create communities where

1:31:31 > 1:31:35you have people buying their home, renting their home, affordable rent,

1:31:35 > 1:31:41with the possibility that they can buy in the future. A whole mix. That

1:31:41 > 1:31:46creates a good community, which is very important.What about shared

1:31:46 > 1:31:50ownership, renting a bit and having a mortgage on it, should that be

1:31:50 > 1:31:54expanded?It is, and it is something that Elke and Clarion are expanding

1:31:54 > 1:32:02on. It is affording housing where the actual house prices are higher,

1:32:02 > 1:32:12a way that a lot of Londoners are solving their housing problems.In

1:32:12 > 1:32:17Merton, a £400,000 flat, you can buy a quarter of that, he could afford

1:32:17 > 1:32:23to buy that flat, in London, it would charge and affordable rent.

1:32:23 > 1:32:28But he does not want to live in London.There is a big problem

1:32:28 > 1:32:32around shared ownership, not the fact... It is a fantastic thing, but

1:32:32 > 1:32:36people do not

1:32:36 > 1:32:40understand it, a lot of myths and weird things about sharing with

1:32:40 > 1:32:44people you do not know, that is false, we need to educate people

1:32:44 > 1:32:48about what shared ownership is, and other government schemes, Help to

1:32:48 > 1:32:53Buy, what it means, very difficult for young people and for anybody to

1:32:53 > 1:32:57get their head around it.Thank you for coming to talk to us, hopefully

1:32:57 > 1:33:02we have explained it a bit.

1:33:02 > 1:33:06Still to come: The Duke of Cambridge is launching an online code of

1:33:06 > 1:33:08conduct, encouraging the likes of Facebook and Snapchat to take a

1:33:08 > 1:33:10stand against cyber-bullying. But what do the victims think? We'll be

1:33:10 > 1:33:19finding out. For a

1:33:21 > 1:33:27We''ll be hearing from someone who was there.

1:33:36 > 1:33:41Time for the latest news, here's Annita.

1:33:41 > 1:33:44Police believe they have now found and identified the bodies

1:33:44 > 1:33:46of everyone who died in the Grenfell Tower fire.

1:33:46 > 1:33:49They put the final number of victims at 71 including a stillborn baby.

1:33:49 > 1:33:51In the immediate aftermath of the blaze, 400 people

1:33:51 > 1:33:52were listed as missing.

1:33:52 > 1:33:54Police say footage showed 223 people escaping the fire,

1:33:54 > 1:33:57while others were not at home on the night of the fire

1:33:57 > 1:33:58in June this year.

1:33:58 > 1:34:00They said the search and identification operation

1:34:00 > 1:34:10had been "meticulous."

1:34:15 > 1:34:17Mediation efforts are taking place in Zimbabwe, between President

1:34:17 > 1:34:19Mugabe and the generals who seized power yesterday. It's thought the

1:34:19 > 1:34:21discussions are aimed at achieving a smooth transition, following the

1:34:21 > 1:34:23departure of the 93-year-old Mr Mugabe. The move by the generals is

1:34:23 > 1:34:26seen by many as an attempt to prevent Mr Mugabe's wife Grace from

1:34:26 > 1:34:29succeeding him in power.

1:34:29 > 1:34:33Figures out this morning reveal that retail sales fell by 0.3% in October

1:34:33 > 1:34:34compared to the same month last year.

1:34:34 > 1:34:37Despite the annual fall, the Office of National Statistics says

1:34:37 > 1:34:46that the underlying pattern is "one of growth"

1:34:46 > 1:34:54when looking at the three-month figure

1:34:54 > 1:34:57which shows a rise of 0.9% in the quantity of goods people bought.

1:34:57 > 1:34:59Plans to encourage housing associations to borrow money

1:34:59 > 1:35:01to invest in new homes will be announced later.

1:35:01 > 1:35:03The government is to wipe about £70 billion worth

1:35:03 > 1:35:05of debt from housing associations' balance sheets, allowing them

1:35:05 > 1:35:07to raise money more cheaply.

1:35:07 > 1:35:10It follows a pledge last month by the Prime Minister, Theresa May to

1:35:10 > 1:35:16kick-start a new generation of council house building.

1:35:16 > 1:35:18A 500-year-old painting of Christ, believed to have been created

1:35:18 > 1:35:27by Leonardo da Vinci, has been sold in New York

1:35:27 > 1:35:30for a record $400 million, that's over £300 milion.

1:35:30 > 1:35:32The price for Salvator Mundi, or "Saviour of the World",

1:35:32 > 1:35:35is the highest ever paid for a work of art.

1:35:35 > 1:35:37Da Vinci died in 1519 and there are fewer than 20

1:35:37 > 1:35:44of his paintings in existence.

1:35:44 > 1:35:49A lot of you getting in touch after the conversation about housing. The

1:35:49 > 1:35:54issue can only be addressed if buy to let mortgages are abolished, if

1:35:54 > 1:35:57greedy landlords buy properties at the cheaper end of the market which

1:35:57 > 1:36:01would have traditionally gone to first-time buyers, thus removing the

1:36:01 > 1:36:04option to buy from the first-time buyer, and forcing them into rental.

1:36:04 > 1:36:09Rachel: making housing associations private sector and profit driven

1:36:09 > 1:36:15will not help tenants, rent rises and evictions, not more homes, very

1:36:15 > 1:36:23bad news for social housing tenants. This is insuring a generation of

1:36:23 > 1:36:29homelessness, look no further than town centres as proof. This all

1:36:29 > 1:36:32sounds good but in reality they will be leasehold and they will never

1:36:32 > 1:36:36owned them to pass on to children. Keep getting in touch with us about

1:36:36 > 1:36:43that story and any others that we talk about.

1:36:43 > 1:36:47Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:36:49 > 1:36:52The BBC's Annual Price of Football Study is out and it shows shows the

1:36:52 > 1:36:57sport is facing a challenge to retain it's young fans. Ore than

1:36:57 > 1:36:59half of 18-24 year olds surveyed said they felt professional football

1:36:59 > 1:37:03was NOT being run with them in mind. Russia's hopes of competing at the

1:37:03 > 1:37:06Winter Olympics in February have been dealt a blow today after the

1:37:06 > 1:37:08World Anti-Doping Agency ruled the country are still noncompliant with

1:37:08 > 1:37:10its code. They've been suspended since 2015 after a state sponsored

1:37:10 > 1:37:12doping programme was uncovered.

1:37:12 > 1:37:14Mark Stoneman looks like he's cemented his place at the top

1:37:14 > 1:37:17of England's batting order for next week's first Ashes Test match.

1:37:17 > 1:37:27He's scored a century on day two of their final warm up game.

1:37:28 > 1:37:37You might remember these Karelian shamen, they may have worked for

1:37:37 > 1:37:40Peru, have claimed the final place at next year's World Cup, they beat

1:37:40 > 1:37:42New Zealand 2-nil in their play off qualifier. -- 2-0.

1:37:46 > 1:37:48Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has demanded "an emergency Budget

1:37:48 > 1:37:50for our public services", which he described

1:37:50 > 1:37:51as being in crisis.

1:37:51 > 1:37:52He is promising to spend about seventeen billion pounds

1:37:56 > 1:38:01We are calling for an emergency budget which addresses an emergency

1:38:01 > 1:38:04in our public services, the chief executive of the NHS has said that

1:38:04 > 1:38:09there is a need for major investment to avert crisis. Head teachers have

1:38:09 > 1:38:13written to the Prime Minister, 5000 of them, saying, halt the cups in

1:38:13 > 1:38:18high schools, and local government have said, a budget gap, and they

1:38:18 > 1:38:20have real worries about looking after children in their care. --

1:38:20 > 1:38:25halt the cuts. And the advisor on, the current advice on terrorism,

1:38:25 > 1:38:29saying, tackling terrorism is being undermined by the lack of police

1:38:29 > 1:38:33officers on the ground. We are saying that what we need next week

1:38:33 > 1:38:36is investment in public services, end 's terror to you and begin

1:38:36 > 1:38:47investing again. -- end austerity and begin investing again.

1:38:47 > 1:38:53With me is our Economics Correspondent Andy Verity.

1:39:00 > 1:39:04We are outspending income by 100 billion a year, we need to close the

1:39:04 > 1:39:07gap, that is austerity, cutting back on public service is and reducing

1:39:07 > 1:39:13welfare payments. This is a break from that but also from the new

1:39:13 > 1:39:16Labour economic policies which would never have been so bold to say, we

1:39:16 > 1:39:23will spend this much more, when you Labour came to power, tablet is the

1:39:23 > 1:39:25recommendation of prudence, they said, we will do the Conservative

1:39:25 > 1:39:29spending restrictions on public services. That was quite hard for

1:39:29 > 1:39:35public services. -- they established a recommendation of prudence -- they

1:39:35 > 1:39:41sought to establish a reputation for prudence. This is a big break.John

1:39:41 > 1:39:45McDonald says 76 billion, the Tories giving that awaited corporations and

1:39:45 > 1:39:55the rich, do we know how he has got that figure?We do. Encouraging

1:39:55 > 1:39:59companies to invest more, more private investment means more

1:39:59 > 1:40:03private growth, you will get more taxes, but there is some dispute

1:40:03 > 1:40:08over that, Labour is saying, no, if you cut corporation tax, the

1:40:08 > 1:40:11taxpayer is giving away money, that means the money must come from the

1:40:11 > 1:40:17rest of us. Instead of giving away £16.5 billion a year in corporation

1:40:17 > 1:40:21tax, if the government kept that money and spend it on public

1:40:21 > 1:40:25services, you would have 70 billion plus to spend on the NHS and other

1:40:25 > 1:40:32things.One of the big things at the moment, tax avoidance, talking about

1:40:32 > 1:40:35that?John McDonnell, in the speech, he has been referring to the

1:40:35 > 1:40:38Paradise papers, speaking about this morning on the today programme, they

1:40:38 > 1:40:44are a big legal document showing how the wealthy and multinationals are

1:40:44 > 1:40:48avoiding tax in ways that are not open to the likes of you and me

1:40:48 > 1:40:51because it is not worth our while, taking our accounts to Bermuda, not

1:40:51 > 1:40:56enough in them. John Madonna says, perhaps raise six or £7 billion

1:40:56 > 1:41:02extra for public services if there were a crackdown on public services.

1:41:02 > 1:41:07-- John McDonnell.

1:41:07 > 1:41:12Breaking news, Rolf Harris has had one of 12 indecent assault

1:41:12 > 1:41:15convictions overturned by the Court of Appeal, that is reaching us in

1:41:15 > 1:41:21the last couple of moments. One of 12 indecent assault convictions

1:41:21 > 1:41:27overturned by the Court of Appeal.

1:41:39 > 1:41:42Stop, speak, support.

1:41:42 > 1:41:44That's today's message being delivered

1:41:44 > 1:41:46by the Duke of Cambridge, as he launches a new campaign

1:41:46 > 1:41:48to tackle the scourge of cyberbullying in the UK.

1:41:48 > 1:41:51The action plan, being seen as the first ever internet code

1:41:51 > 1:41:54of conduct, aims to reach every 11 to 16 year old in the UK.

1:41:54 > 1:41:57It's been backed by the likes of Facebook and Snapchat,

1:41:57 > 1:41:59as well as gaming companies, who have committed to further action

1:41:59 > 1:42:01to support and protect young people online.

1:42:01 > 1:42:03A video has been released of Prince William as part

1:42:03 > 1:42:06of the campaign, showing him chatting to two people affected

1:42:06 > 1:42:08by cyberbullying and the impact it's had on their lives.

1:42:08 > 1:42:11It is one thing when it happens in the playground, and it is visible

1:42:11 > 1:42:13there and parents and teachers and other children can see it but

1:42:13 > 1:42:16online, only one of you seize it and it is so personal, go straight to

1:42:16 > 1:42:21your room.Absolutely. Online now, with social media, you cannot escape

1:42:21 > 1:42:25it, you are constantly with the bully.And, it is written down,

1:42:25 > 1:42:30there to look back at time and time again. And if you are in a negative

1:42:30 > 1:42:34space, that is all that you can see, and you look for the negatives, you

1:42:34 > 1:42:40look for the cruel things.I was in this group and if I was to save

1:42:40 > 1:42:44something which agreed with a comment, then that would be

1:42:44 > 1:42:46twisted... People turned against me.

1:42:50 > 1:42:58It kind of spiralled out of control from there. I started to self harm.

1:42:58 > 1:43:02I decided that I could not take this any more, and I tried to end my

1:43:02 > 1:43:09life. It was songwriting that helped me realise that my life was worth

1:43:09 > 1:43:15living. I started to write down how I was feeling, writing a suicide

1:43:15 > 1:43:20note that allowed me to... My gosh, getting the same relief from this as

1:43:20 > 1:43:26I am from self harming.So brave of the both of you to speak so honestly

1:43:26 > 1:43:32about it. I cannot thank you enough. I only wish you had not gone through

1:43:32 > 1:43:36what you have gone through.

1:43:37 > 1:43:42You were so brave, if I had done that to my mother... I just don't

1:43:42 > 1:43:44know...

1:43:44 > 1:43:46Lets speak to psychologist Dr Linda Papadopoulos,

1:43:46 > 1:43:48an ambassador at the organisation Internet Matters, which is part

1:43:48 > 1:43:53of the task force and helps keep kids safe online,

1:43:53 > 1:43:58Abbie Gilligan,

1:43:58 > 1:44:00who's from the NSPCC's child safety online team,

1:44:00 > 1:44:01and 24-year-old Carney Bonner, who was bullied online

1:44:01 > 1:44:05when he was a teenager to the point he tried to take is own life.

1:44:05 > 1:44:11He now campaigns against cyberbullying.

1:44:11 > 1:44:15Thank you for speaking with us, let's start with your story, how did

1:44:15 > 1:44:20people target you online?I was targeted over Facebook and Instant

1:44:20 > 1:44:25Messenger, and at the time it was receiving messages from a group of

1:44:25 > 1:44:30people I believe were my friends. I was getting messages that said I

1:44:30 > 1:44:33should kill myself, that nobody cared about me, because, going

1:44:33 > 1:44:38through school, I was always someone that was told to be honest. If you

1:44:38 > 1:44:42are not happy about something, be honest, speak your opinion. Because

1:44:42 > 1:44:45of that, the circle of friends I hung around with, if they did not

1:44:45 > 1:44:50like someone, they would say to them that they did not like someone or

1:44:50 > 1:44:54they would make their life more hard. I never wanted to put somebody

1:44:54 > 1:44:59in that situation because I was not raised like that. It then put me on

1:44:59 > 1:45:03the outside of the circle and actually, I was the person that was

1:45:03 > 1:45:08causing them more grief. My friend started to give me messages asking

1:45:08 > 1:45:18why I was still there.OK, I can deal with this, I'm a teenager, I

1:45:18 > 1:45:23can take on the world.It was something I thought I could handle,

1:45:23 > 1:45:27it was when the messages turned into everyday, I could see that I could

1:45:27 > 1:45:31not handle it, and I felt I had to do something to get myself out of

1:45:31 > 1:45:37the situation.How common is that kind of story, because when I was at

1:45:37 > 1:45:41school, I was bullied quite badly but when I went home, I closed the

1:45:41 > 1:45:46front door and I could escape, now it is on phones and online and

1:45:46 > 1:45:52getting into their home, presumably that is the real problem.That is

1:45:52 > 1:45:55the key difference between off-line and online bullying, it follows

1:45:55 > 1:45:59children home, we have seen a doubling in the last five years of

1:45:59 > 1:46:02contacts to Charles Lyne, demonstrates that this is a growing

1:46:02 > 1:46:08problem and something we need to be concerned about in responding to.

1:46:13 > 1:46:17Are you seeing a huge spike in young people not being able to cope with

1:46:17 > 1:46:22it? I am trying to get a sense of the level of young people not being

1:46:22 > 1:46:27able to cope with a sense of intrusion.I think the stories we've

1:46:27 > 1:46:30heard is that it can be devastating for young people and some of the

1:46:30 > 1:46:34young people who contact us will have mental health problems and will

1:46:34 > 1:46:38be dealing with anxiety as a result of cyber bullying. At the extreme

1:46:38 > 1:46:43end we know young people receive death threats and that can have a

1:46:43 > 1:46:48massive impact and impacts their ability to concentrate in school,

1:46:48 > 1:46:52absolutely, there is the full range of The Haven is, that are

1:46:52 > 1:46:56perpetrated but the full range of impacts that can have an young

1:46:56 > 1:47:04people experiencing it.I want to ask you, I know you schools and

1:47:04 > 1:47:08speak to young people, what are they telling you about how it's affecting

1:47:08 > 1:47:13them and their coping strategies? When I'm in schools me and my team

1:47:13 > 1:47:17friendly address the a lot of them say they tried to ignore it and

1:47:17 > 1:47:23forget it is happening and one of the things we find is quite

1:47:23 > 1:47:26interesting, we have a lot more boys that come up to us and want to talk

1:47:26 > 1:47:31to us about cyber bullying issues because they don't know how to

1:47:31 > 1:47:34handle it, they are always told because they are a boy they

1:47:34 > 1:47:38shouldn't show emotion. We hear there are girls who go through at a

1:47:38 > 1:47:43lot more but at the moment I see boys who don't know how to

1:47:43 > 1:47:45communicate they are struggling because there is this, if you are a

1:47:45 > 1:47:51guy you can't show emotions, I don't agree with it and I said to them you

1:47:51 > 1:47:54need to shoot you can talk about it and they get to the point they are

1:47:54 > 1:47:57scared to talk about it because they think their friends will take the

1:47:57 > 1:48:03Mick out.Am I right in thinking some of the people you work with our

1:48:03 > 1:48:06former police and sought to explain where they come from and why they

1:48:06 > 1:48:14might do it?I have two people I work with who work my bullies, they

1:48:14 > 1:48:20were the two driving it and it's something that is hard, then we

1:48:20 > 1:48:23started campaigning, I was completely against the idea because

1:48:23 > 1:48:27I had to look at people who drove me to want to kill myself and it's

1:48:27 > 1:48:33something that actually over time I have learned to accept because we

1:48:33 > 1:48:36always say we are therefore at the victim and to support the victim but

1:48:36 > 1:48:40we cannot win this battle if we are not fighting it from both France and

1:48:40 > 1:48:44what we fight is beneficial, having these two with us, you can see

1:48:44 > 1:48:49people look at it and say, if he was a bully and he is working to help

1:48:49 > 1:48:53how does that happen and it's actually something we sure, it's

1:48:53 > 1:49:00important to show both sides of the story to tackle the issue.As a

1:49:00 > 1:49:03psychologist you must see the immense damage that cyber bullying

1:49:03 > 1:49:09can do to young people. Is it about talking, is it about opening up like

1:49:09 > 1:49:15we here?It's always about talking. Whether you're a parent who checks

1:49:15 > 1:49:20in with their kid to make sure they are OK, whether you're a friend of

1:49:20 > 1:49:25someone as in the cases we have heard, but Jackson and says this

1:49:25 > 1:49:28doesn't seem right, I will support you, whether you are the person

1:49:28 > 1:49:31being bullied that wants to reach out, it's always about talking,

1:49:31 > 1:49:36that's one of the biggest tools that we have because the problem is,

1:49:36 > 1:49:42these things remain unacknowledged. Very important points raised, I may

1:49:42 > 1:49:46not talk about it because I feel embarrassed, I am a strong person,

1:49:46 > 1:49:52this should not embarrass me because I am a boy and I am strong. They

1:49:52 > 1:49:56remain unacknowledged, because if I told them I get too big, I might

1:49:56 > 1:50:01tell my parents, they may take my phone away, my phone is where I am

1:50:01 > 1:50:07being bullied but it also is where I get some pot. It's an instinctive

1:50:07 > 1:50:12thing, we will. This technology, it is integral to the lies of young

1:50:12 > 1:50:17people, it is part and parcel of the social world. -- to the lives of

1:50:17 > 1:50:28young people.I know you are an ambassador for Internet matters, you

1:50:28 > 1:50:32are part of the task force although you are not personally involved with

1:50:32 > 1:50:35the work that the Duke of Cambridge is doing but how critical is that at

1:50:35 > 1:50:41the likes of Facebook and the fact that snap chat or involved in that.

1:50:41 > 1:50:45It's hugely important, these brands in and of themselves are cooled to

1:50:45 > 1:50:49young people, depending on your age you will be an snap chat or

1:50:49 > 1:50:54Facebook, and if they can set a precedent, this is a code of conduct

1:50:54 > 1:50:58and we don't accept that, you buy into the brand, the coolness, I

1:50:58 > 1:51:02values, whatever that means but one of those values is you could each

1:51:02 > 1:51:05other in a certain way and we have got together to decide what baddies.

1:51:05 > 1:51:09The idea this is the first time this has ever been done, it's important

1:51:09 > 1:51:14to speak about, it's an acknowledgement not just from

1:51:14 > 1:51:18children and parents but from industry itself but says we have to

1:51:18 > 1:51:23work together to make sure we address this.Abby, do you think the

1:51:23 > 1:51:26initiative from the Duke of Cambridge getting the likes of

1:51:26 > 1:51:29Facebook and snap chat on board is going to make a difference to cyber

1:51:29 > 1:51:35bullying?I think it's a great first step and it's in purging to seize

1:51:35 > 1:51:41social networking sites, children's members from the Internet can come

1:51:41 > 1:51:45together to come up with innovative solutions together. As I say this is

1:51:45 > 1:51:49a first step but we would like to continue to seize social networking

1:51:49 > 1:51:54sites doing more to protect children and we think ultimately a statutory

1:51:54 > 1:51:58code of conduct is required to make sure they meet their requirements

1:51:58 > 1:52:01and do more to keep children safe on the platforms but this is an in

1:52:01 > 1:52:13purging chat.Thanks so much all of you. -- but this is encouraging in

1:52:13 > 1:52:23doing that.

1:52:23 > 1:52:26Now some of you may have seen this already doing the rounds on social

1:52:26 > 1:52:29media but the rapper Drake has drawn praise from fans after stopping

1:52:29 > 1:52:32a performance at a nightclub in Australia to call out a man

1:52:32 > 1:52:32who was apparently "groping" female members of the crowd.

1:53:08 > 1:53:16Our entertainment reporter Chi Chi Izundu has more...

1:53:16 > 1:53:20Pretty incredible footage, do we know how it unfolded?We don't

1:53:20 > 1:53:24actually, there is other footage from other fans in the crowd and you

1:53:24 > 1:53:27can see some security guard with torches going into the crowd,

1:53:27 > 1:53:31whether that person was ejected from the club we don't know. But Drake as

1:53:31 > 1:53:36she could hear it said he wasn't playing with him, he wanted him to

1:53:36 > 1:53:42stop putting his hands on girls. It is incredible footage, for one of

1:53:42 > 1:53:47the biggest rappers in the world, or you could even arguably call him the

1:53:47 > 1:53:52biggest rapper in the world if you look at his history, calling out a

1:53:52 > 1:53:56single fan, stopping a show to call out a fan and you could see he was

1:53:56 > 1:54:00quite annoyed. And then he continued the concert after it seemed to have

1:54:00 > 1:54:06stopped, whether the fan stopped or was ejected we don't know.He's not

1:54:06 > 1:54:09the first music artist to call at this kind of behaviour at a gig.No,

1:54:09 > 1:54:15Sam Carter from the British band the architects stopped his gig to say

1:54:15 > 1:54:20that he was unsure of whether he should say this in public but he was

1:54:20 > 1:54:25going to, he watched someone crowd surfing and what he says was a man

1:54:25 > 1:54:32groping a woman's Wadi. He then said that this disgusting, if you don't

1:54:32 > 1:54:35stop and you don't like what I've said, then please leave, obviously

1:54:35 > 1:54:41he used much worse language than that. A number of artists are

1:54:41 > 1:54:44calling out groping at gigs and there are a number of female centric

1:54:44 > 1:54:49help groups that have set up, have been set up to help women who feel

1:54:49 > 1:54:54when you are at the front of a gig or add a mosh pit, pressed against

1:54:54 > 1:54:58the barriers and you don't feel someone is pressing against you in

1:54:58 > 1:55:02the right way, there is a platform to make a complaint.Thank you for

1:55:02 > 1:55:04coming down.

1:55:04 > 1:55:06Well lets talk to someone who was at the afterparty

1:55:06 > 1:55:08at the Marquee Club - joining me via webcam

1:55:08 > 1:55:16is Bela Vrondos in Sydney...

1:55:16 > 1:55:23Header. You aware of what was going on before Drake stop?I was in the

1:55:23 > 1:55:29very front of the mosh pit and I was within the whole groping situation,

1:55:29 > 1:55:35everyone being pushed forward and it was pretty crazy.Were you being

1:55:35 > 1:55:40groped, were lots of people being groped?I would say lots of people,

1:55:40 > 1:55:44there were either ends of it and most of the girls were at the very

1:55:44 > 1:55:47front of the concert, we been waiting for him to come out and by

1:55:47 > 1:55:52the time he had come out the guys had come from the sides into the

1:55:52 > 1:55:55front area and tried to push their way in, from every angle people were

1:55:55 > 1:56:00getting groped and pushed and even hurt. There were girls in their,

1:56:00 > 1:56:06they were all of the front, I think he saw one incident and it stop the

1:56:06 > 1:56:11party, was unbelievable, he stopped the music, he put him down twice,

1:56:11 > 1:56:15told him to stop groping the girl, all the girls went crazy, even the

1:56:15 > 1:56:21boys, he was unbelievable. So good. Were you surprised. This wasn't just

1:56:21 > 1:56:29a case of in between, taking a drink of water, this was mid-set.It was

1:56:29 > 1:56:33mid-song, we were all singing, everyone had their phones out, it

1:56:33 > 1:56:41was a really good environment. Aside from the concert pushing thing, it

1:56:41 > 1:56:46was a big surprise, Drake and his songs, that is not much of this

1:56:46 > 1:56:53prize us girls, we know how much chill of size and supports us, yes,

1:56:53 > 1:56:58probably why all the guys went crazy after that, so good, he really said

1:56:58 > 1:57:04the five.Was it clear at the man who was groping women was rejected

1:57:04 > 1:57:08left started to behave like a reasonable human being?No, I don't

1:57:08 > 1:57:15think anybody was actually in, Ike can't say that indirectly, there

1:57:15 > 1:57:19were people everywhere, everything had settled down, I did not see

1:57:19 > 1:57:24anyone injected, security were amazing, they had torches out, they

1:57:24 > 1:57:28work looking out for us girls, they looked out for me and my friends,

1:57:28 > 1:57:33the utmost commendation for that. Everything went back to normal, he

1:57:33 > 1:57:37went back onto a song and it was like nothing had happened, besides

1:57:37 > 1:57:42him boosting the energy and showing us much love. It was really good.

1:57:42 > 1:57:48Thank you ever so much for speaking to us. So many of you still getting

1:57:48 > 1:57:52in touch with us about the conversation we had with Andy

1:57:52 > 1:57:56Woodward, a year ago since he sat on the sofa with Victoria and talked

1:57:56 > 1:58:00about being abused as a young footballer. Derek says I want to

1:58:00 > 1:58:05wish Andy every success on his very lonely journey so far. There will be

1:58:05 > 1:58:10light at the end of it. Sharon says I am a social worker, I've worked

1:58:10 > 1:58:13with children for many years who have been abused, so important and

1:58:13 > 1:58:17brave of him to come forward and make a change for hundreds of

1:58:17 > 1:58:21children. So many more messages. Thank you for everyone who got in

1:58:21 > 1:58:23touch.

1:58:23 > 1:58:25BBC Newsroom live is coming up next.

1:58:25 > 1:58:27Have a good day.