15/12/2017

0:00:10 > 0:00:13Hello, it's 9am. Welcome to the programme.

0:00:13 > 0:00:15EU leaders signal that they're ready to take Brexit talks

0:00:15 > 0:00:18to the next stage and work out what their relationship with Britain

0:00:18 > 0:00:22will look like when we leave.

0:00:22 > 0:00:25Theresa May was applauded for her efforts by European Counterparts

0:00:25 > 0:00:29at a dinner last night ahead of the EU decision.

0:00:29 > 0:00:34Over the next two hours, the 27 EU leaders will approve the withdrawal

0:00:34 > 0:00:37terms and start discussing the guidelines for the next phase, the

0:00:37 > 0:00:39future relationship. We'll have the latest throughout the

0:00:39 > 0:00:44programme.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46Also today - a rape trial collapses after phone evidence

0:00:46 > 0:00:48which could have proved the defendant's innocence two years

0:00:48 > 0:00:50ago is finally released to lawyers.

0:00:50 > 0:00:52A senior barrister in the case tells us what happened.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56And will a new sexual health campaign be enough to stop

0:00:56 > 0:01:00increasing numbers of young people ignoring the safe sex messag?

0:01:08 > 0:01:09Hello.

0:01:09 > 0:01:13Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

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0:01:22 > 0:01:24Our top story today: EU leaders are expected to formally agree

0:01:24 > 0:01:28to start the next phase of Brexit negotiations later.

0:01:28 > 0:01:33Talks on a transition deal could begin as early as next week.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36At a dinner in Brussels last night, Theresa May was applauded

0:01:36 > 0:01:38by her fellow leaders after stressing her desire

0:01:38 > 0:01:42for a "smooth" departure.

0:01:42 > 0:01:47Christian Fraser is in Brussels for us.

0:01:47 > 0:01:53Christian, what can we expect today? First, the thing to say is, we have

0:01:53 > 0:01:56all been surprised by the sort of reaction to Theresa May after the

0:01:56 > 0:02:01defeat in the Commons on Wednesday night. There has been another round

0:02:01 > 0:02:04of goodwill, the leaders putting their arm around Theresa May and

0:02:04 > 0:02:08seeing her as the person they want to deal with. That was reflected

0:02:08 > 0:02:12with the round of applause in the room last night as she set out what

0:02:12 > 0:02:15she wants from the future relationship. Apparently there was

0:02:15 > 0:02:21also a drink between Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel, Jean-Claude

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Juncker and Donald Tusk, they all got together for a drink. And there

0:02:24 > 0:02:28is clearly a lot of respect for Theresa May as a negotiator, which

0:02:28 > 0:02:33tells us to make things, I think. First, they don't want someone who

0:02:33 > 0:02:38might be more hard might have different red lines. And it tells us

0:02:38 > 0:02:41that they have accepted in this building that Brexit is going to

0:02:41 > 0:02:45happen. They want it to happen in as organised a way as is possible, and

0:02:45 > 0:02:50they think Theresa May can deliver that.

0:02:50 > 0:02:58What happens next? They will talk today about the last

0:02:58 > 0:03:00phase, the withdrawal. They will rubber-stamp what has been agreed

0:03:00 > 0:03:05and what was signed up to last Friday. Then they will talk about

0:03:05 > 0:03:08the guidelines for the future relationship. We're not talking

0:03:08 > 0:03:12about trade. That can't happen until we leave the EU. Principally, they

0:03:12 > 0:03:17will talk about the transition, that two-year period. And they have made

0:03:17 > 0:03:21it clear that although, in name, maybe Britain has left the single

0:03:21 > 0:03:34market and the customs union, in practice they will

0:03:34 > 0:03:37abide by all the rules in the single market and customs union and will be

0:03:37 > 0:03:39under the jurisdiction of the European Court. There doesn't appear

0:03:39 > 0:03:42to be much wriggle room on that. Past that, when it comes to the

0:03:42 > 0:03:44summit in March, they will talk about the future relationship. It is

0:03:44 > 0:03:46really the framework for the relationship, what sort of

0:03:46 > 0:03:48relationship Theresa May wants. I don't think they've had much detail

0:03:48 > 0:03:52from her on that, because as we know, she has not even discussed it

0:03:52 > 0:03:59with the cabinet. There is a lot of work to do on that and there are

0:03:59 > 0:04:02inconsistencies between the two sides. The mood in the building is

0:04:02 > 0:04:07broadly positive. Christian, for now, thank you. We

0:04:07 > 0:04:13will catch up the Christian later.

0:04:13 > 0:04:15Let's get a summary of the rest of the day's news.

0:04:15 > 0:04:18The prosecuting lawyer in the trial of student accused of rape,

0:04:18 > 0:04:20which collapsed yesterday because of the late disclosure

0:04:20 > 0:04:22of evidence, has blamed the police for the mistakes.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25The trial of 22-year-old Liam Allan was halted at Croydon Crown Court

0:04:25 > 0:04:30after it was revealed the police had not disclosed thousands of text

0:04:30 > 0:04:34messages from the alleged victim which proved Liam's innocence.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37The judge has called for an inquiry at the highest level.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39The prosecuting lawyer, Jerry Hayes, who uncovered those text messages

0:04:39 > 0:04:42has told this programme, the case could have been a huge

0:04:42 > 0:04:44miscarriage of justice.

0:04:44 > 0:04:46The Metropolitan Police says it will carry out an "urgent

0:04:46 > 0:04:53assessment" into what happened in the case.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57Tina has been speaking to the prosecution lawyer.There will be an

0:04:57 > 0:05:03enquiry, no doubt. I don't think there was any malice or lie in, just

0:05:03 > 0:05:08pure incompetence. A lot of police officers do not know their duty of

0:05:08 > 0:05:11disclosure, and what he should have done, he should have examined the

0:05:11 > 0:05:15desk. OK, there were about 50,000 messages on it, but that is his job.

0:05:15 > 0:05:22He should have made a note, and the reviewing lawyer should have looked

0:05:22 > 0:05:27at it. That didn't happen. We nearly had a very serious miscarriage of

0:05:27 > 0:05:31justice, where a young man's life would have been trashed.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34The Church of England has apologised to the family of a bishop

0:05:34 > 0:05:37for failings in the way it investigated allegations of child

0:05:37 > 0:05:39abuse against him more than 50-years after his death.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41George Bell, who died in 1958, was alleged to have repeatedly

0:05:41 > 0:05:43abused a young girl.

0:05:43 > 0:05:46She made a formal complaint in 1995 and, 10 years later,

0:05:46 > 0:05:51won an apology and compensation from the Church.

0:05:51 > 0:05:53An independent review of the investigation

0:05:53 > 0:06:00is being published this morning.

0:06:00 > 0:06:04One in six parents in the UK gives their children alcohol by the age of

0:06:04 > 0:06:0814, according to new research, despite medical advice that says

0:06:08 > 0:06:13children shouldn't drink until they are at least 15. Researchers from

0:06:13 > 0:06:15University College London found that white, well-educated parents were

0:06:15 > 0:06:19most likely to have a relaxed attitude to young people drinking.

0:06:19 > 0:06:29Philippa Roxby reports.

0:06:33 > 0:06:38Christmas can be a time of year when teenagers get to taste alcohol for

0:06:38 > 0:06:43the first time, but researchers found that it could be harmful in

0:06:43 > 0:06:47their bodies are not ready for it yet. 17% of parents have let their

0:06:47 > 0:06:53children drink alcohol by the age of 14. Well-educated parents of white

0:06:53 > 0:06:56children were more likely to let their adolescent children drink than

0:06:56 > 0:07:01unemployed and ethnic minority parents. Half of 14-year-olds said

0:07:01 > 0:07:05they had tried more than just a few sips of alcohol.People at a young

0:07:05 > 0:07:10age tend to think it is the right thing to do. Obviously, it's not

0:07:10 > 0:07:16really the right thing to do.It depends on the child, doesn't it?

0:07:16 > 0:07:26And how the risk -- how responsible they are.Obviously, there's a

0:07:26 > 0:07:29limit.The study found that light or moderate drinking parents were just

0:07:29 > 0:07:35as likely to let their children have alcohol as heavy drinking parents.

0:07:35 > 0:07:41Parents of socially advantaged children may believe that teaching

0:07:41 > 0:07:45them responsible alcohol use is what they are doing, but we have no

0:07:45 > 0:07:49evidence to support this view. The Chief medical officer recommends an

0:07:49 > 0:07:52alcohol free childhood, so no drinking before the age of 15,

0:07:52 > 0:07:56because it can be harmful to their growth and development.Alcohol

0:07:56 > 0:08:00charity said parents needed more guidance from schools and doctors on

0:08:00 > 0:08:05how to talk to their children about alcohol. Their advice is to set

0:08:05 > 0:08:08clear rules for teenagers on alcohol, and to be open and honest

0:08:08 > 0:08:12with them about its effects.

0:08:12 > 0:08:14Britain's most senior military officer has warned of a new threat

0:08:14 > 0:08:18posed by Russia to communications cables that run under the sea.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21The head of the Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshall Sir Stuart Peach,

0:08:21 > 0:08:24said Britain and NATO must avoid the risk of a potentially

0:08:24 > 0:08:34"catastrophic" effect on the economy if the cables were cut.

0:08:35 > 0:08:40An enquiry into child sexual abuse in Australia has made more than 400

0:08:40 > 0:08:44recommendations in its final report. The Royal commission, which spent

0:08:44 > 0:08:47five years hearing evidence, said that tens of thousands of -- tens of

0:08:47 > 0:08:51thousands of children had been abused at institutions including

0:08:51 > 0:08:54churches, orphanages and schools. Malcolm Turnbull has paid tribute to

0:08:54 > 0:09:01the courage of those who came forward to give evidence.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04The commission has exposed a national tragedy. It is an

0:09:04 > 0:09:07outstanding exercise in love, and I thank the commissioners and those

0:09:07 > 0:09:10who had the courage to tell their stories. Thank you very much.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12The White House says Donald Trump and the Russian president,

0:09:12 > 0:09:14Vladimir Putin, have discussed working together to resolve

0:09:14 > 0:09:16the crisis over North Korea's nuclear programme.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18Meanwhile, the most senior UN official to visit North Korea

0:09:18 > 0:09:20for six years told the BBC, Pyongyang should re-open

0:09:20 > 0:09:22communication channels with South Korea, which were suspended

0:09:22 > 0:09:32in 2009.

0:09:33 > 0:09:41Ryanair has invited pilot unions across the EU to discussions. It

0:09:41 > 0:09:44said that Christmas flights were important to its customers and they

0:09:44 > 0:09:50wanted to remove any worry that they might be disrupted by this and

0:09:50 > 0:09:53industrial action. Ryanair said it would change its policy on

0:09:53 > 0:09:55recognising unions to avoid disruption in the run-up to

0:09:55 > 0:09:58Christmas.

0:09:58 > 0:10:029 million adults in the UK are chronically lonely, according to the

0:10:02 > 0:10:06commission set up by the MP Jo Cox before her murder. It says that

0:10:06 > 0:10:10loneliness is as harmful to help a smoking 15 cigarettes a day and

0:10:10 > 0:10:13calls for a Government led national strategy to address the problem.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15Danny Savage reports.

0:10:15 > 0:10:16You can't catch me.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18In the months before she was murdered, Jo Cox

0:10:18 > 0:10:22started a campaign to tackle loneliness.

0:10:22 > 0:10:23You can't catch me.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25In the months before she was murdered, Jo Cox

0:10:25 > 0:10:27started a campaign to tackle loneliness.

0:10:27 > 0:10:29She said she didn't want to live in a country where thousands

0:10:29 > 0:10:32of people live lonely lives forgotten by the rest of us.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34The campaign carried on in her name and

0:10:34 > 0:10:37has now concluded we'll have to do our bit to combat loneliness.

0:10:37 > 0:10:43Susan spent months feeling isolated and

0:10:43 > 0:10:44desperate, but things improved hugely when

0:10:44 > 0:10:45the royal voluntary service

0:10:45 > 0:10:47intervened.

0:10:47 > 0:10:51I was really alone, I was depressed, I tried to take my own life.

0:10:51 > 0:10:52Really bad.

0:10:52 > 0:10:54In a lot of pain.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57If it wasn't for these people, all these people that's helping me

0:10:57 > 0:11:00now, I wouldn't be here.

0:11:00 > 0:11:04And I appreciate everything that people have done for me.

0:11:04 > 0:11:08It's not always obvious to people that they might be lonely or in need

0:11:08 > 0:11:11of some companionship.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13And what we offer isn't somebody to come

0:11:13 > 0:11:19in and talk at people.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21What we are doing is saying to people, would you

0:11:21 > 0:11:24like to be part of something where you meet somebody,

0:11:24 > 0:11:26you get to know them, they get to know you and you

0:11:26 > 0:11:28create a friendship?

0:11:28 > 0:11:30The Jo Cox Loneliness Commission has concluded

0:11:30 > 0:11:34that government and employers can do their bit to deal with loneliness

0:11:34 > 0:11:38but that individuals and communities are just as important in preventing

0:11:38 > 0:11:39isolation.

0:11:39 > 0:11:44Danny Savage, BBC News, West Yorkshire.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47This programme understands that no police were stationed inside this

0:11:47 > 0:11:51year's V Festival in Essex because of a dispute over money.

0:11:51 > 0:12:01Organisers submitted a request for police services at a cost

0:12:02 > 0:12:04of £100,000 but an agreement on the level

0:12:04 > 0:12:06of policing and money couldn't be reached.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08It's thought the organisers of the event spent 138

0:12:08 > 0:12:10thousand pounds on policing the previous year.

0:12:10 > 0:12:11Around 50 thousand people attend the festival.

0:12:11 > 0:12:14'Youthquake' has been named 2017's word of the year

0:12:14 > 0:12:15by the Oxford English Dictionary.

0:12:15 > 0:12:25Defined as a "significant cultural, political, or social change arising

0:12:26 > 0:12:27from the actions or influence of young people".

0:12:27 > 0:12:28The Labour

0:12:28 > 0:12:30leader Jeremy Corbyn's engagement with the youth,

0:12:30 > 0:12:33in the run up to the general election which saw the number

0:12:33 > 0:12:35of young people voting increasing significantly is seen

0:12:35 > 0:12:36an example of a youthquake.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39The word was first used by the editor of Vogue magazine in the

0:12:39 > 0:12:421960s to describe how youth culture was changing fashion and music.

0:12:42 > 0:12:48That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30.

0:12:48 > 0:12:52Lets get some sport now with John Watson. For people who are just

0:12:52 > 0:12:56waking up, what can you tell us about the Ashes and how England are

0:12:56 > 0:13:00doing?It is fair to say that Australia will be the happier of the

0:13:00 > 0:13:08two teams. A short while ago, they were 173-2, which means they trail

0:13:08 > 0:13:13England by 230 runs. England were all out for 403. Jonny Bairstow

0:13:13 > 0:13:18resumed on 75 not out, and went on to move past 100. That was a huge

0:13:18 > 0:13:22relief for him, as you can imagine, after a number of batsmen have

0:13:22 > 0:13:26failed to register big scores so far in this series. Delighted, as you

0:13:26 > 0:13:29can see. After the head-butting incident at the start of the series

0:13:29 > 0:13:43that he was involved in. Dawood Mallon... The wickets started to

0:13:43 > 0:13:50tumble then. England were all out for 403. In reply, Craig Overton

0:13:50 > 0:13:55making an early breakthrough. Captain Steve Smith, as we are

0:13:55 > 0:13:58seeing here, has played superbly, and it's his performance that has

0:13:58 > 0:14:02pulled Australia back into it after that big English scorer in the first

0:14:02 > 0:14:11innings. He is on 74, so closing in on his century as well. I think that

0:14:11 > 0:14:14England will feel that because they did not take a wicket in that last

0:14:14 > 0:14:18session, it is Australia who are on top of the match at the moment.Some

0:14:18 > 0:14:23Australia the happier of the two teams, obviously.Yes, and I think

0:14:23 > 0:14:26that's crucial. With two matches remaining, England know that if they

0:14:26 > 0:14:31lose this test, it is all over. They need a draw, if anything. They had

0:14:31 > 0:14:44put that big score on the board, which will help, but not taking a

0:14:44 > 0:14:47wicket in that last session will leave them frustrated, and Joe Root

0:14:47 > 0:14:49will know that that wicket could be crucial. If they had got Steve

0:14:49 > 0:14:51Smith, that would have made a difference, but Australia have the

0:14:51 > 0:14:54momentum. The way the series is placed, England can't afford to lose

0:14:54 > 0:14:57key sessions, and it is fair to say that they have done that today. My

0:14:57 > 0:14:59mentor with Australia heading into day three, and England's bowlers

0:14:59 > 0:15:02have a lot of work to do going into that.For now, thank you. We will

0:15:02 > 0:15:06catch up with you again a little later.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09Sexual health is probably the last thing you discuss with your friends,

0:15:09 > 0:15:11and Public Health England say that's the problem.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13According to new research the topic is still as difficult

0:15:13 > 0:15:14as ever to talk about.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17Of the 2,000 16-24 year olds they spoke to, 56% of men said

0:15:17 > 0:15:20they found it difficult to talk about STIs with friends for women

0:15:20 > 0:15:24it was 43% 58% of either sex said if they had an STI they would find

0:15:24 > 0:15:25it hard to tell their partner.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27But with cuts happening across sexual health,

0:15:27 > 0:15:29how easy is staying safe and getting treated?

0:15:29 > 0:15:40One couple shared intimate details of their STIs with the BBC.

0:15:40 > 0:15:49So, I'd had chlamydia previously, so I was familiar with the symptoms.

0:15:49 > 0:15:54So when I started, when they started appearing, I...

0:15:54 > 0:15:58Initially, I actually thought it was a bladder infection,

0:15:58 > 0:16:00but that was more wishful thinking, I suppose.

0:16:00 > 0:16:03So when I got the symptoms, I went to the doctors

0:16:03 > 0:16:07with an open mind, I suppose.

0:16:07 > 0:16:10I explained what it was that I was feeling, and we did some tests.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12I didn't have any symptoms.

0:16:12 > 0:16:21I just found out when he actually told me that he had chlamydia.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24That's quite typical, I think, in men and women.

0:16:24 > 0:16:25Women often don't show any symptoms.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27Because of that, there wasn't a whole lot of blame,

0:16:27 > 0:16:29it was more just...

0:16:29 > 0:16:30Just a kind of worry for each other.

0:16:30 > 0:16:40We just decided to get on and deal with it.

0:16:42 > 0:16:44Let's talk now to Dr Sara Kayat.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47She's a GP that does around five STI checks a day.

0:16:47 > 0:16:49Noah Ross is an 18-year-old college student who contracted

0:16:49 > 0:16:50chlamydia last year.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53Sophie Lane is a university student, who thinks the stigma around wearing

0:16:53 > 0:16:57condoms needs to change.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01Welcome to the programme. Sophie, why do you think young people in

0:17:01 > 0:17:052017 still find it difficult to talk about six?I think people tend to

0:17:05 > 0:17:12talk about it but nobody wants to discuss the nitty gritty things that

0:17:12 > 0:17:17are perceived as embarrassing and so people tend to shy away from the

0:17:17 > 0:17:26topic, I think.It is not prioritised enough, in our country,

0:17:26 > 0:17:32it is, but in our countries, it is not talked about at a young enough

0:17:32 > 0:17:35age so when they are learning about this and getting involved, they do

0:17:35 > 0:17:40not know what they are doing wrong, they might have a misconception of

0:17:40 > 0:17:45it.You went to school in Dubai, what was that like, did you have any

0:17:45 > 0:17:49conversations at school about sexual health and being safe?

0:17:49 > 0:17:54Unfortunately, not really. For me, I was taught a lot about that from

0:17:54 > 0:17:58family, but a lot of my friends did not have someone like that to talk

0:17:58 > 0:18:02to and our school did not offer much in terms of education for sexual

0:18:02 > 0:18:08health. When you say not really, does that mean it was non-existent?

0:18:08 > 0:18:13Almost, yes, it was a taboo topic because sex outside of weblog is

0:18:13 > 0:18:21illegal.What impact did that have your classmates? You are having that

0:18:21 > 0:18:25conversation with your family, what about them?I feel sorry for a lot

0:18:25 > 0:18:29of my friends because they were almost unprepared when it got to

0:18:29 > 0:18:33that age. They did not know exactly what they were doing. When it comes

0:18:33 > 0:18:38to that, the best thing is to be safe and to be educated.Let's talk

0:18:38 > 0:18:42about what we're hearing today, the statistic that 50% of young people

0:18:42 > 0:18:46will not use protection when sleeping with a new partner very

0:18:46 > 0:18:51first time does that surprise you? Not really. I think the stigma

0:18:51 > 0:18:57behind condom use is that it is not as fun, it doesn't feel as good. It

0:18:57 > 0:19:02is boring and things. So I think if people started to recognise that

0:19:02 > 0:19:08actually, it is not cool to get STIs and it is cool to use condom is,

0:19:08 > 0:19:13because that way you are protected, people.Using it a bit more. And

0:19:13 > 0:19:20both of you, you are part of that demographic, which 50% do you fall

0:19:20 > 0:19:26into, the half that would or would not?I have quite a Liberal

0:19:26 > 0:19:31friendship group. Me and my family are very open. So I am able to talk

0:19:31 > 0:19:35about it. A couple my who have contracted STIs have spoken about it

0:19:35 > 0:19:40openly with me and our friendship group.The doctor now, what is your

0:19:40 > 0:19:45response to what we are hearing today?It is really shocking to hear

0:19:45 > 0:19:50such a large number of people not using condoms. Primarily, people use

0:19:50 > 0:19:56them to avoid pregnancy and not necessarily think about STIs. It is

0:19:56 > 0:20:00so important that this campaign reaches a wider audience to try and

0:20:00 > 0:20:04get everyone talking about STIs and sex and how to do it safely.What

0:20:04 > 0:20:11are the risks?The risks of STIs can have significant consequences in the

0:20:11 > 0:20:17future. They can be infertility, some people can develop types of

0:20:17 > 0:20:20arthritis, pelvic inflammatory disease, a number of consequences

0:20:20 > 0:20:26need to be thought about.Why is it important to diagnose those STIs

0:20:26 > 0:20:30early? You do around five checks a day.You want to get it early

0:20:30 > 0:20:36because it is treatable early. Also, because you are stopping other

0:20:36 > 0:20:41people getting it.So it stops the snowballing effect. What about this

0:20:41 > 0:20:46idea that it is difficult, which is understandable, difficult to tell a

0:20:46 > 0:20:51partner if you have an STI?Of course it is. For those confident in

0:20:51 > 0:20:53themselves and with their partner, it is great to have that open

0:20:53 > 0:20:59relationship, to talk about those things without blame. But for those

0:20:59 > 0:21:03that are going to struggle, to beat your health care professional.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06People like myself, people in sexual health clinics, they can do what we

0:21:06 > 0:21:11call contact tracing, where we contact partners anonymously for

0:21:11 > 0:21:18them so that they are able to know they might be at risk of STIs.And

0:21:18 > 0:21:21it is about the blame culture as well. If you are telling their

0:21:21 > 0:21:26partner, previous partner, you may have parted on bad news, telling

0:21:26 > 0:21:30them there is a risk they may have an STI is not easy so the anonymous

0:21:30 > 0:21:36way is slightly scary, but better than nothing.Yes, it might sound

0:21:36 > 0:21:40scary to receive a letter like that, but most of us would rather receive

0:21:40 > 0:21:45that and find out and never know and potentially get these horrible

0:21:45 > 0:21:49risks.How regularly would you both have checks? If at all.I get

0:21:49 > 0:21:54checked every time I sleep with somebody.Yes, Presley, exactly the

0:21:54 > 0:22:00same. I have got a long-term girlfriend at the moment and I do

0:22:00 > 0:22:04have it roughly every three months, I go to the sexual health clinic.

0:22:04 > 0:22:08What does STI testing involved for people who have never been tested?

0:22:08 > 0:22:14It depends on the STI we are looking for, most of them, it is a swab. And

0:22:14 > 0:22:26we can also do ur tests. So it can be as quick as just a wee in a

0:22:26 > 0:22:30bottle.Easy to do and important. Let's know what you think. If you

0:22:30 > 0:22:35are part of the half but would not use a condom or protection, when

0:22:35 > 0:22:39having sex with your partner for the first time, let's know. If you have

0:22:39 > 0:22:45been checked for an STI or have had chlamydia or any STIs, let's know

0:22:45 > 0:22:47what happened. Thank you to everybody who has been in touch

0:22:47 > 0:22:53about our special programme.

0:22:53 > 0:23:00on the Grenfell Fire tragedy from St Paul's Cathedral yesterday.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03Harry said, "It reminded me of your excellent your coverage

0:23:03 > 0:23:04of the immediate aftermath, the later situation,

0:23:04 > 0:23:07and how residents feel today and how your programme has genuine

0:23:07 > 0:23:08empathy with the displaced residents."

0:23:08 > 0:23:10Well, one story which we couldn't bring you yesterday

0:23:10 > 0:23:12really illustrates the resilience of the Grenfell Community.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14Dale Youth, the amateur boxing club of champion title-holders

0:23:14 > 0:23:17like James DeGale and George Groves, was located in Grenfell Tower.

0:23:17 > 0:23:21Six months on, Rhia Chohan went to meet its members.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27The night before the fire, we were actually training in our

0:23:27 > 0:23:32gym, which was in the tower block.

0:23:32 > 0:23:36We finished here about 9:45, 10 o'clock, then I had a phone call,

0:23:36 > 0:23:39quarter to five in the morning, from one of the trainers who trains

0:23:39 > 0:23:45with me, saying that, "I drove by the tower block and it's

0:23:45 > 0:23:49all in flames and smoke," he said, "It's terrible."

0:23:49 > 0:23:51I said, "You've got to be laughing, Jamie," you know,

0:23:51 > 0:23:53"We only came out there..."

0:23:53 > 0:23:56He said, "Mick, put your television on and have a look."

0:23:56 > 0:23:58It was just horrendous.

0:23:58 > 0:24:01Dale Youth was a focal point for this community, and it's used

0:24:01 > 0:24:02to producing champions.

0:24:02 > 0:24:07It was located in the lower floors of Grenfell Tower.

0:24:07 > 0:24:09They relocated from newly refurbished facilities

0:24:09 > 0:24:14to a converted car park nearby, with no heating and only basic kit.

0:24:14 > 0:24:24And they could be there for the next two years.

0:24:24 > 0:24:32It makes you feel very sad because, obviously, first,

0:24:32 > 0:24:36died in there and their families you've got to think of.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39Obviously, we lost a brand-new gym out of it but, as I say,

0:24:39 > 0:24:41we can get over that, the gym, because we've

0:24:41 > 0:24:44got all the lads that were in the new gym back

0:24:44 > 0:24:45now with us.

0:24:45 > 0:24:47Life's got to go on, and these lads want to box.

0:24:47 > 0:24:49The gym's been around for a very long...

0:24:49 > 0:24:52There's lots of boxers round here, lots of champions.

0:24:52 > 0:24:54There's great coaches around me, so I don't think I'll ever stop.

0:24:54 > 0:24:56Despite everything, the club is still thriving.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59We started back six weeks after the fire, we've already had

0:24:59 > 0:25:02four national champions this year.

0:25:02 > 0:25:04We're both brothers, we both fought in the Under-Ten

0:25:04 > 0:25:05Novices, we both won.

0:25:05 > 0:25:08We're still here training.

0:25:08 > 0:25:10It goes to show that trainers are putting the work in.

0:25:10 > 0:25:12They're not letting all these bad things, negative things,

0:25:12 > 0:25:14put the boxers down.

0:25:14 > 0:25:16It's helping each other, pushing each other, and we're

0:25:16 > 0:25:19getting the results.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21There'll be nothing stopping this club, though,

0:25:21 > 0:25:23because boys who box, it's in their blood

0:25:23 > 0:25:24to box, you know?

0:25:24 > 0:25:27As long as we've got even a small shed with a couple of bags in,

0:25:27 > 0:25:32we'll just carry on.

0:25:32 > 0:25:34Mick and his club aren't going anywhere, and,

0:25:34 > 0:25:44like the people of Grenfell, they're still fighting.

0:25:49 > 0:25:56Head Coach of Dale Youth boxing club. Still to come on the

0:25:56 > 0:25:56programme...

0:25:56 > 0:25:59A group of people with cystic fibrosis have released

0:25:59 > 0:26:01a charity Christmas single, despite their condition meaning

0:26:01 > 0:26:04they are not able to meet each other in person.

0:26:04 > 0:26:119 million adults in the UK, evidence that chronic loneliness is as

0:26:11 > 0:26:14damaging to health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. We will ask what

0:26:14 > 0:26:18can be done about it.

0:26:18 > 0:26:20Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23The BBC News headlines this morning...

0:26:23 > 0:26:26EU leaders are expected to formally agree to start the next phase

0:26:26 > 0:26:28of Brexit negotiations later.

0:26:28 > 0:26:33Talks on a transition deal could begin as early as next week.

0:26:33 > 0:26:35At a dinner in Brussels last night, Theresa May was applauded

0:26:35 > 0:26:37by her fellow leaders after stressing her desire

0:26:37 > 0:26:43for a "smooth" departure.

0:26:43 > 0:26:49A judge has called for an enquiry after a student was cleared of rape

0:26:49 > 0:26:53when police failed to disclose evidence casting doubt on the case.

0:26:53 > 0:26:5522-year-old Leah Mallon spent two years on bail before his trial at

0:26:55 > 0:27:01Croydon Crown Court was halted when it was revealed his accuser said the

0:27:01 > 0:27:06messages expressing fantasies about violent sex. Prosecuting lawyer

0:27:06 > 0:27:09Jerry Hayes told the programme this information did not come to light

0:27:09 > 0:27:14until he's pacific we asked police to give the defence team a list of

0:27:14 > 0:27:19the women's phone messages. One in six parents in the UK gives their

0:27:19 > 0:27:24children alcohol by the age of 14 according to new research, despite

0:27:24 > 0:27:27medical research that says children should not drink until they are a

0:27:27 > 0:27:30year older. Researchers from University College London bound

0:27:30 > 0:27:33bright and well educated parents were most likely to have a relaxed

0:27:33 > 0:27:40attitude to young people drinking. An Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

0:27:40 > 0:27:44in Australia has made more than 400 recommendations in its final report.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47The Royal Commission, which spent five years hearing evidence, said

0:27:47 > 0:27:53tens of thousands of children had been assaulted at more than 4,000

0:27:53 > 0:27:57institutions including churches, orphanages and schools. Prime

0:27:57 > 0:27:59Minister Malcolm Turnbull has paid tribute to those who came forward to

0:27:59 > 0:28:05give evidence. Ryanair has invited pilot unions across Europe for talks

0:28:05 > 0:28:08on their recognition in a bid to stop the first pilot strike in

0:28:08 > 0:28:13history. The Irish no-frills airline said Christmas flights were very

0:28:13 > 0:28:18important to customers and it wanted to remove worry they may be

0:28:18 > 0:28:21disrupted by industrial action. Ryanair has never recognised unions,

0:28:21 > 0:28:25but it said it would change this policy in order to avoid disruption

0:28:25 > 0:28:31in the run-up to Christmas. 9 million adults in the UK are

0:28:31 > 0:28:35chronically lonely, according to a Commission set up by the MP Jo Cox

0:28:35 > 0:28:39before her murder. It says loneliness is as harmful to health

0:28:39 > 0:28:42as smoking 15 cigarettes a day and it calls for a government led

0:28:42 > 0:28:46national strategy to address the problem. That is a summary of the

0:28:46 > 0:28:50latest BBC News.

0:28:50 > 0:28:54Here's some sport now.

0:28:54 > 0:28:57I said England had not made a breakthrough in the last session of

0:28:57 > 0:29:02the day and a two of the third Ashes Test in Perth, but they have at

0:29:02 > 0:29:06last. They would have preferred to take the captain Steve Smith who has

0:29:06 > 0:29:11wrestled back the momentum towards Australia. They were 180-3 short

0:29:11 > 0:29:18while ago so they are trailing by 123 after England made 403 in their

0:29:18 > 0:29:22first innings. So a key wicket. After wringing his eighth Wimbledon

0:29:22 > 0:29:28title, perhaps surprisingly, not surprisingly the Fed has been named

0:29:28 > 0:29:32the BBC sports personality for the 40 in a row, only Muhammad Ali and

0:29:32 > 0:29:38Usain Bolt have won the award times previously. Hereford last week but

0:29:38 > 0:29:41last night, they take on Leicester in the next round so we will see a

0:29:41 > 0:29:47return or Jamie Vardy to his former club. And despite being caught

0:29:47 > 0:29:51napping between frames, he would have thought that? Unbelievable from

0:29:51 > 0:29:54Ronnie O'Sullivan, but he is awake enough to make it through to the

0:29:54 > 0:29:58quarterfinals. That is the sport, I will be back later.

0:29:58 > 0:30:01A group of people with cystic fibrosis have overcome a huge hurdle

0:30:01 > 0:30:03to release a charity Christmas single.

0:30:03 > 0:30:06People with the condition cannot meet each other face-to-face,

0:30:06 > 0:30:08as physical contact can cause dangerous bacteria to be

0:30:08 > 0:30:11passed between them.

0:30:11 > 0:30:13Despite this, a group of them decided to form a choir.

0:30:13 > 0:30:19Here's their story.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21# This is the sound of one voice.

0:30:21 > 0:30:26# One spirit, one voice.

0:30:26 > 0:30:30# The sound of one...

0:30:30 > 0:30:33What's unusual about this choir is because all of the members

0:30:33 > 0:30:38have cystic fibrosis, we're not allowed to be in the same

0:30:38 > 0:30:41room at the same time, and if we did there could be really,

0:30:41 > 0:30:43really serious consequences and we could become really ill.

0:30:45 > 0:30:49# I've got cystic fibrosis.

0:30:49 > 0:30:52# Every time I laugh there's a high chance I'll pee.

0:30:52 > 0:30:55# And I have very low vitamin A + E + D...

0:30:55 > 0:30:59My name's Charles Michael Duke, I'm 22 and I have cystic fibrosis,

0:30:59 > 0:31:04and I'm currently waiting for a double lung transplant.

0:31:04 > 0:31:06It is isolating, being unable to meet others with cystic

0:31:06 > 0:31:08fibrosis face-to-face.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11My life currently is based a lot around CF and organ donation,

0:31:11 > 0:31:14but I do still love to sing.

0:31:14 > 0:31:16I don't know what I'd write about if I didn't

0:31:16 > 0:31:18have CF, to be honest.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20Probably boring stuff like bills to pay and women that

0:31:20 > 0:31:24don't treat me right.

0:31:24 > 0:31:25Is that what people write about nowadays?

0:31:25 > 0:31:29I don't really know.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35I got the idea of the virtual choir from thinking about how

0:31:35 > 0:31:37I could bring us all together even though we're not actually

0:31:37 > 0:31:41allowed to physically be together.

0:31:41 > 0:31:44They're the only other people in the world who know exactly

0:31:44 > 0:31:46what you're going through, and it is difficult

0:31:46 > 0:31:49to not be able to meet.

0:31:53 > 0:31:58It has been a bit of a logistical nightmare to co-ordinate it.

0:31:58 > 0:32:04The person with cystic fibrosis arrives, they record their section

0:32:04 > 0:32:06of the song on their own in the booth, and they have

0:32:06 > 0:32:10a two-hour slot to do that in, and then the producers have to clean

0:32:10 > 0:32:12the studio really thoroughly and wipe any surface down the person

0:32:12 > 0:32:15with CF has touched, and the studio has to be aired out,

0:32:15 > 0:32:18and there has to be two hours in-between each person with cystic

0:32:18 > 0:32:21fibrosis leaving the studio and the next person arriving so that

0:32:21 > 0:32:27it's nice and clean and safe and ready for the next person

0:32:27 > 0:32:34to come in and record their bit.

0:32:38 > 0:32:42# This is the sound of one voice.

0:32:42 > 0:32:46# One spirit, one voice...

0:32:51 > 0:32:54One of the reasons I took it on is obviously they are very aware

0:32:54 > 0:32:57that I have CF and that I'm waiting for a transplant, so the whole

0:32:57 > 0:33:01singing thing is, if you want to sing it a few words at a time,

0:33:01 > 0:33:03we'll sing it a few words at a time.

0:33:03 > 0:33:08# This is the sound of one voice...

0:33:08 > 0:33:10It was really beautiful to be singing with other people

0:33:10 > 0:33:11with cystic fibrosis.

0:33:11 > 0:33:13It was really lovely, and there's a particular line

0:33:13 > 0:33:15in the song that was, "Helping each other

0:33:15 > 0:33:21to make it through," and that was really emotive.

0:33:21 > 0:33:25It was really cool that we've found a way to sing together even though

0:33:25 > 0:33:27we shouldn't be able to sing together, but we've

0:33:27 > 0:33:30managed to do it.

0:33:30 > 0:33:36# This is the sound of one voice.

0:33:36 > 0:33:41# One spirit, one voice.

0:33:41 > 0:33:46# The sound of one who makes a choice...

0:33:46 > 0:33:49I think it's weird that this is the closest I'll be to everyone,

0:33:49 > 0:33:52but we're doing it in the best way and the safest way we can,

0:33:52 > 0:33:57and I think it kind of still achieves what a choir is -

0:33:57 > 0:34:02a group of people coming together and making a wonderful sound.

0:34:02 > 0:34:06# This is the sound of all of us.

0:34:06 > 0:34:16# Oooh-oooh...#.

0:34:19 > 0:34:23We can speak now to Bianca Maguire, who you saw there in that film -

0:34:23 > 0:34:26Bianca has cystic fibrosis - and whose idea it was to form

0:34:26 > 0:34:29a cystic fibrosis choir.

0:34:29 > 0:34:33Also here is James Hawkins, the music producer behind the album,

0:34:33 > 0:34:36which is called 'Stand Together' - and includes tracks from a number

0:34:36 > 0:34:40of other charity choirs.

0:34:40 > 0:34:47It's good to see you here. You have a lovely boys.Thank you.When did

0:34:47 > 0:34:52you come up with the idea to form a cystic fibrosis choir in the first

0:34:52 > 0:34:57place?I was trying to get it off the ground for a few years, 45

0:34:57 > 0:35:01years, and I wanted to a way to share the fact that singing has

0:35:01 > 0:35:09helped me, both emotionally, and I feel it has helped to keep my lungs

0:35:09 > 0:35:11healthy, to share that with other people who have cystic fibrosis and

0:35:11 > 0:35:16to find a way of bringing us together and breaking down that

0:35:16 > 0:35:20barrier of not being able to meet in person.One of the most striking

0:35:20 > 0:35:26things about the condition is that cross infection, so two people with

0:35:26 > 0:35:31Richard never meet face-to-face, which I had no idea about.Yeah,

0:35:31 > 0:35:34lots of people don't know. Some people do choose to meet

0:35:34 > 0:35:38face-to-face. It is a personal choice, but it can be incredibly

0:35:38 > 0:35:46dangerous, so we do try not to. When we go to hospital, clinics, they

0:35:46 > 0:35:49have a very tight schedule to keep to to make sure we don't come in

0:35:49 > 0:35:53contact with each other.How isolating is that for you, then?

0:35:53 > 0:35:57Because you obviously want to speak to other people who are sharing

0:35:57 > 0:36:04similar experiences to you. What's it like?Yeah, I actually was never

0:36:04 > 0:36:08really close to anyone with cystic fibrosis growing up, but over the

0:36:08 > 0:36:14last two years, I become incredibly close a couple of people. One girl,

0:36:14 > 0:36:17Victoria, who is on the track as well, is one of my best friends, and

0:36:17 > 0:36:23we contact each other at least weekly. It's heartbreaking that we

0:36:23 > 0:36:27can't meet up in person, because she is one of my best friends, and I

0:36:27 > 0:36:32suppose it's similar to having a pen pal, in a way, but it's a shame we

0:36:32 > 0:36:35can't see each other in person, because they're the only people in

0:36:35 > 0:36:38the world to know what you're going to and how it feels.What impact as

0:36:38 > 0:36:44it had on your life? I know you say this has helped you - what is it

0:36:44 > 0:36:51like living with cystic fibrosis?It fluctuates. Some days, I can be

0:36:51 > 0:36:58fine, and other days, I can wake up and my chest is really bad. I also

0:36:58 > 0:37:01have cystic fibrosis- related diabetes, which affects the pancreas

0:37:01 > 0:37:08as well, so I can't digest my food properly. Because it's an invisible

0:37:08 > 0:37:12condition, unless you are very poorly and on oxygen, people can't

0:37:12 > 0:37:16tell, which is a blessing and a curse in equal measure, I think.

0:37:16 > 0:37:19They can't tell that you have this disability.You are part of the

0:37:19 > 0:37:24reason this album has happened in the first place - how did you first

0:37:24 > 0:37:28get involved?It is a project that was already happening, which Claire

0:37:28 > 0:37:33Cook and I set up early in the year. The idea was joining a choir

0:37:33 > 0:37:38together with the song to get across a specific message about what the

0:37:38 > 0:37:43charity do, or something like the cystic fibrosis choir, where we're

0:37:43 > 0:37:45explaining cross contamination and people not being able to be

0:37:45 > 0:37:49together. It has been a fascinating journey, and it has been great to be

0:37:49 > 0:37:56able to make situations like this actually easy to understand, and

0:37:56 > 0:37:59using a choir in this instance has been the best way to describe the

0:37:59 > 0:38:02fact that these people can't actually be together in the same

0:38:02 > 0:38:07room.What were the biggest challenges for you? As we saw in the

0:38:07 > 0:38:10film, the studio has to be deep cleaned before the next person comes

0:38:10 > 0:38:15in - that must've been tough.It was great fun, but we wanted to be sure

0:38:15 > 0:38:20that everyone was safe, so studio had to undergo the wiping down of

0:38:20 > 0:38:28surfaces every time someone came in, the fans were on to ventilate the

0:38:28 > 0:38:34room. We cleaned all the services, maybe a little over the top.I have

0:38:34 > 0:38:40recorded in a studio where it is not so fresh and clean before!There was

0:38:40 > 0:38:45no dust anywhere.They did a very good job.What kind of feedback have

0:38:45 > 0:38:50you had from other people who have taken part?Everybody feels very

0:38:50 > 0:38:55much connected as part of the community. Choirs create that kind

0:38:55 > 0:38:58of family spirit, and people have made friendships and bonds that

0:38:58 > 0:39:06would never have happened without the project.Tell me about the other

0:39:06 > 0:39:11choirs you brought together for the album.We had a missing person's

0:39:11 > 0:39:20choir.We had them on not long ago. Their experience through singing

0:39:20 > 0:39:26together echoes through the other choirs.It is for people who have

0:39:26 > 0:39:29children or loved ones who have gone missing and it is an opportunity for

0:39:29 > 0:39:37them to come together and sing as a form of therapy.You can feel very

0:39:37 > 0:39:42isolated and on your own, and choirs bridge that gap. It is not directly

0:39:42 > 0:39:47talking about anything like that, it's just unspoken, and you build

0:39:47 > 0:39:53that bond. I think music just does that for you.It's very therapeutic.

0:39:53 > 0:39:56What is it about singing in particular, because there are lots

0:39:56 > 0:40:00of different forms of therapy, so what is it about singing?There's

0:40:00 > 0:40:04something about it that is really good for your psyche, and being part

0:40:04 > 0:40:10of making that beautiful noise, and the harmonies. So, for me, I didn't

0:40:10 > 0:40:15get to feel that until I heard the finished track. When I did, it was

0:40:15 > 0:40:19like, wow. This idea I had so long ago has finally come together, and

0:40:19 > 0:40:24it sounds so beautiful and I am proud of it. It's just a great

0:40:24 > 0:40:28feeling, I guess, when you have any condition, or you are affected by

0:40:28 > 0:40:32something to do with any other charities, that you can feel a bit

0:40:32 > 0:40:37hopeless. But this is doing something to help, doing something

0:40:37 > 0:40:41positive out of a bad situation.It is such a lovely story. Thank you

0:40:41 > 0:40:49both for coming in to talk about it.

0:40:49 > 0:41:04A judge in a rape trial has found that vital evidence was not put

0:41:04 > 0:41:09forward. The failure of the Crown Prosecution Service and Metropolitan

0:41:09 > 0:41:13police to release phone evidence only came to light when senior

0:41:13 > 0:41:17prosecuting barrister Jerry Hayes was given the brief and ask for more

0:41:17 > 0:41:21information. We can talk to him live now. Thank you for joining us. Can

0:41:21 > 0:41:28you tell us exactly what happened? It was this: This was a very serious

0:41:28 > 0:41:35multiple rape case. The woman, the person who made the allegations, had

0:41:35 > 0:41:38given her evidence. The defence counsel said, have you got a disc of

0:41:38 > 0:41:43the downloads from her telephone? I said, I haven't seen it, CPS haven't

0:41:43 > 0:41:48seen it. I spoke to the officer responsible for disclosure, and I

0:41:48 > 0:41:54said, have you got it? And he said he had. He said it could not be

0:41:54 > 0:41:57disclosed, and I asked why. He said it is personal matters. I said, is

0:41:57 > 0:42:01there anything on that desk which could undermine the prosecution case

0:42:01 > 0:42:09or assist the defence? He said no, but I wasn't happy about that. I

0:42:09 > 0:42:14said that that I thought the defence should have at this. We adjourn for

0:42:14 > 0:42:18a day. The defence sought information which completely blew

0:42:18 > 0:42:22the prosecution case out of the window. If they hadn't had that

0:42:22 > 0:42:26disclosure, this young man would have been sent to prison for 12

0:42:26 > 0:42:31years and would have been on the sex offenders register for the rest of

0:42:31 > 0:42:36his life, with precious little chance of an appeal. So, this was a

0:42:36 > 0:42:39massive, massive miscarriage of justice which, thank heavens, was

0:42:39 > 0:42:43avoided.And why do you think that the police repeatedly insisted that

0:42:43 > 0:42:49there was nothing of interest for the prosecution or the defence?I

0:42:49 > 0:42:55don't think they had looked at it properly. There were 2400 pages and

0:42:55 > 0:42:59about 50,000 texts. I don't think they had looked at it. Of course,

0:42:59 > 0:43:03police officers sometimes don't understand that it is their duty to

0:43:03 > 0:43:07review these matters then report it to the CPS. Then a CPS lawyer will

0:43:07 > 0:43:13get on Dalek -- will get in contact with me and we will decide what to

0:43:13 > 0:43:20do. That is not lying or misleading, it is just sheer incompetence, I'm

0:43:20 > 0:43:26afraid.We also heard that to save costs, material wasn't always handed

0:43:26 > 0:43:37to defence lawyers - what is your response to that?

0:43:39 > 0:43:44I'm not entirely sure about that. You have to understand that the CPS

0:43:44 > 0:43:48and the police, and all of us in the criminal justice system, are under

0:43:48 > 0:43:51tremendous pressure because we're running out of money. This is a

0:43:51 > 0:43:57system which is not just creaking, it is about to croak. If we have any

0:43:57 > 0:44:03more treasury cutbacks, there will be more cases like this, except they

0:44:03 > 0:44:11won't come before people like you. The defendant has said he is not

0:44:11 > 0:44:14ready to do interviews yet, but he has said he's so grateful to you.

0:44:14 > 0:44:19Can you tell us about the the tribal collapsed?I gave him advice. As

0:44:19 > 0:44:24soon as I asked for the jury to be discharged and we had the

0:44:24 > 0:44:32information available, I wanted that boy to know that there should be no

0:44:32 > 0:44:35further evidence given. Obviously, he was happy, but this has been

0:44:35 > 0:44:39hanging over his head for two years. A young man of good character, he

0:44:39 > 0:44:44could have had his life totally trashed. That was awfully wrong.How

0:44:44 > 0:44:49concerned are you that this could be happening in other cases?It has

0:44:49 > 0:44:53happened in other cases. I had a similar case and I wrote a piece in

0:44:53 > 0:44:58The Times a few months ago. It was a firearms case. There was a

0:44:58 > 0:45:03streamlined report, a miniature report, saying that the guy's DNA

0:45:03 > 0:45:09was found on the magazine of the gun. When we looked at the report,

0:45:09 > 0:45:14it was not on it. The more the cuts come to this service, the more

0:45:14 > 0:45:19possibilities miscarriage of justice will come. And it is unacceptable.

0:45:19 > 0:45:22Jerry Hayes, thank you for talking to us.

0:45:22 > 0:45:25Loneliness is as harmful to health as obesity or smoking

0:45:25 > 0:45:2915 cigarettes a day - that's according to a report

0:45:29 > 0:45:31published today, which also says that over nine million adults

0:45:31 > 0:45:40are often or always lonely.

0:45:40 > 0:45:43The report comes from the Jo Cox Loneliness Commission -

0:45:43 > 0:45:46a cross-party group set up by the MP Jo Cox before her

0:45:46 > 0:45:47murder in June 2016.

0:45:47 > 0:45:49With us in the studio are two people who have

0:45:49 > 0:45:53struggled with isolation - Becca Maberely, who struggled

0:45:53 > 0:46:01with loneliness as a new mum and then started an online community

0:46:01 > 0:46:03"A Mother Place", to help others.

0:46:03 > 0:46:06And Meg Mclean, who is being supported by Lois Muddiman to help

0:46:06 > 0:46:07overcome her loneliness.

0:46:07 > 0:46:09Also from Leeds, we have Conservative MP Seema Kennedy

0:46:09 > 0:46:15and Labour MP Rachel Reeves.

0:46:15 > 0:46:18You find the time after you gave birth to be very isolating, what

0:46:18 > 0:46:26happened?For me, it was a big shift that nobody warned me about, going

0:46:26 > 0:46:29from having a busy professional life and a social life to suddenly being

0:46:29 > 0:46:37at home all day every day with a baby who, although my son was much

0:46:37 > 0:46:40wanted and loved, babies do not give a lot back. They don't do much

0:46:40 > 0:46:47rather than triple and we and suddenly being home alone without

0:46:47 > 0:46:53the adult interaction you are used to commit really isolating. And no

0:46:53 > 0:46:58matter how supportive your family and friends are, I had lots of great

0:46:58 > 0:47:03friends and family around, but I I still just felt lonely and isolated.

0:47:03 > 0:47:06And when you are going through that, would you have described it as

0:47:06 > 0:47:12loneliness?Perhaps not, I was not quite sure how to identify what I

0:47:12 > 0:47:18was feeling. It was the station as well, I think. Yes, I think perhaps

0:47:18 > 0:47:21admitting you are lonely or admitting you are struggling is

0:47:21 > 0:47:28difficult if you're used to just sort of being happy and leading a

0:47:28 > 0:47:35good life.Can you describe what it is like, what it feels like when you

0:47:35 > 0:47:42are living an isolated life, Neg?It is incredibly hard to describe.

0:47:42 > 0:47:47Especially if you have gone from a busy life once upon a time to then

0:47:47 > 0:47:52feeling so isolated. You get frightened if you get attention. If

0:47:52 > 0:48:00you do go out. Because you get scared because you know it is not

0:48:00 > 0:48:04going to last forever, it is only a short period of time. But you know

0:48:04 > 0:48:11you are going to go back to being, becoming an agoraphobic. You get

0:48:11 > 0:48:15scared you don't want to go out because you're scared of going back.

0:48:15 > 0:48:21Because you go back to being on your own.Was it gradual, or did it just

0:48:21 > 0:48:29happened one day?It was a gradual build-up. To a terrible situation

0:48:29 > 0:48:41for myself. I had a stillborn child. And my life changed massively.

0:48:41 > 0:48:50And... I just ended up on the streets of Oxford. You are homeless

0:48:50 > 0:48:58for a time? Yes, nearly six years. What helped you to turn your life

0:48:58 > 0:49:08around?Determination. Getting involved with organisations that

0:49:08 > 0:49:21Lewis is involved in. And they bring your self-confidence back. And

0:49:21 > 0:49:28building up self-confidence. It is very, very difficult.When did you

0:49:28 > 0:49:37first meet and how did you first start working with Meg?I were for

0:49:37 > 0:49:41Oxford Computer Consultants and we have a website recruit volunteers to

0:49:41 > 0:49:46meet and befriend people like Meg. One of our volunteers goes to visit

0:49:46 > 0:49:53Meg once a fortnight. And he really likes walking dogs and Meg has two

0:49:53 > 0:49:56dogs she finds it difficult to exercise so the relationship works

0:49:56 > 0:50:00really well. And I meet Meg once a week in Oxford Centre, we meet for a

0:50:00 > 0:50:05coffee and a chat on a Wednesday morning.That is lovely. What is

0:50:05 > 0:50:09your response to what we're hearing today, that loneliness can be as bad

0:50:09 > 0:50:20as or smoking?Personally, I am a smoker. I would love to give that

0:50:20 > 0:50:27up. And that is something that I am sure I would be able to do if I

0:50:27 > 0:50:33really thought about it. But the loneliness, you just can't describe

0:50:33 > 0:50:39it. You feel like an alien. A complete alien. It doesn't matter if

0:50:39 > 0:50:44somebody says, oh, you look really good today, you look really well. On

0:50:44 > 0:50:48the outside, it is not that, it is on the inside and it is not

0:50:48 > 0:50:54recognised enough. There is not enough help for people. I felt so

0:50:54 > 0:50:57suicidal, so many times, which is an awful thing to say because I have

0:50:57 > 0:51:03had a lot of it in my family. And I feel guilty for saying that. You do,

0:51:03 > 0:51:09you just don't know who to talk to. Let's bring in our MPs. Rachel

0:51:09 > 0:51:18Reeves. And Seema Kennedy, you are listening to Meg and it is

0:51:18 > 0:51:22heartbreaking. If loneliness is as obesity and smoking and could lead

0:51:22 > 0:51:26to premature death, why has the Government not done more?I think it

0:51:26 > 0:51:31is something people are waking up to and people used to think it was

0:51:31 > 0:51:34normal for everybody to have good mental health and now we recognise

0:51:34 > 0:51:37many people struggle with mental health and in some ways, loneliness

0:51:37 > 0:51:43is similar to that. Jo Cox understood it and she saw it. But I

0:51:43 > 0:51:47think as a society, it is something we are beginning to recognise. I

0:51:47 > 0:51:53hope the work we have done with the Jo Cox Commission this year has shed

0:51:53 > 0:51:56a Spotlight on loneliness and how it affects the everybody at different

0:51:56 > 0:52:02times of their life. Meg's story very powerful, but there are many

0:52:02 > 0:52:05stories from people in all communities and from all walks of

0:52:05 > 0:52:07life who are struggling with the unbearable pain they have described

0:52:07 > 0:52:12loneliness.Seema Kenedy, can you sum up your findings and

0:52:12 > 0:52:18recommendations?What we would like to see, we would like a national

0:52:18 > 0:52:23strategy on loneliness. What we are recognising, it is a problem the

0:52:23 > 0:52:27Government needs to act on as well as civic leaders, local government

0:52:27 > 0:52:31and all of us. What we want government to do is what government

0:52:31 > 0:52:37does well. Things like measuring loneliness. Until now, there has

0:52:37 > 0:52:41been measures of loneliness and isolation in older people, but as

0:52:41 > 0:52:46Meg's story tells us and the other people we will be hearing from I am

0:52:46 > 0:52:50sure, it can strike any any community. Looking at the

0:52:50 > 0:52:55interventions and the schemes which do take place like the befriending

0:52:55 > 0:52:58in Oxford, which ones are really effective? The Government needs to

0:52:58 > 0:53:03plot a bit of money into that to research what works and how we can

0:53:03 > 0:53:08replicate that in other parts of the country.And who do you think should

0:53:08 > 0:53:11be held accountable if those measures are not put in place,

0:53:11 > 0:53:16Rachel Reeves?In our manifesto we are publishing today in Batley, we

0:53:16 > 0:53:22are calling for the Government's, the Governor to appoint a Minister

0:53:22 > 0:53:26to take forward a strategy of loneliness. A Minister for

0:53:26 > 0:53:29loneliness? Yes, we do not have one of those today and it needs to be

0:53:29 > 0:53:34across departments and the Department of Health, because of the

0:53:34 > 0:53:38health effects of loneliness we are hearing about, but also, for

0:53:38 > 0:53:43Communities and Local Government. This is something that touches all

0:53:43 > 0:53:48parts of government and so we want a Minister to coordinate that

0:53:48 > 0:53:55response, to measure loneliness, as Seema says, and put in interventions

0:53:55 > 0:53:59and measures so there are fewer than 9 million struggling with loneliness

0:53:59 > 0:54:02next year and viewer the year after. This is not something the Godman can

0:54:02 > 0:54:08do alone, it relies on human scale, step-by-step actions of everybody

0:54:08 > 0:54:14and single person watching today will know somebody, if they are

0:54:14 > 0:54:18honest, in their lives, on their street, a family or a friend,

0:54:18 > 0:54:21struggling with loneliness, especially coming up to Christmas.

0:54:21 > 0:54:26The Godman needs to play its role and some do we. I often say if we

0:54:26 > 0:54:31all live our lives a bit more like Jo Cox with tears, the world would

0:54:31 > 0:54:37be a kinder and a lot of us lonely place.It certainly would be. Why is

0:54:37 > 0:54:40this such a widespread societal problem from the work you have been

0:54:40 > 0:54:46doing, Seema?People have always been lonely, it is something we have

0:54:46 > 0:54:52recognised over the ages. But as we get more of an ageing society, more

0:54:52 > 0:54:55people living on their own, and among younger people, the rise of

0:54:55 > 0:55:01social media is a big driver for this. I am in my mid-40s and if I

0:55:01 > 0:55:05wanted to see my friends after school, I had to go out and have

0:55:05 > 0:55:09human contact with them. And we have not evolved that much. We need that

0:55:09 > 0:55:14heartbeat of another human. Sitting in your bedroom with a phone, it

0:55:14 > 0:55:18could introduce you to somebody, but you need to make that face-to-face

0:55:18 > 0:55:23contact. That is why it is becoming more of a problem. And also, the

0:55:23 > 0:55:27bravery of somebody like Jo, who spoke about her loneliness when she

0:55:27 > 0:55:31went to university, the bravery of people like Meg who have said, I had

0:55:31 > 0:55:35been lonely in my life. Even the Duchess of Cambridge talked about

0:55:35 > 0:55:38how she was lonely as a new mother, and that is shifting the

0:55:38 > 0:55:43conversation and I all so proud of as parliamentarians to carry on this

0:55:43 > 0:55:50important work in Jo's name.This requires resources as well as talk,

0:55:50 > 0:55:54how much money needs to deal with this problem affecting 9 million

0:55:54 > 0:55:59people in the UK, Rachel?We are asking government to put money in

0:55:59 > 0:56:02and fund schemes. We have seen fantastic stuff over the year and in

0:56:02 > 0:56:09my own constituency, the work of Helping the Hands, and a copy

0:56:09 > 0:56:15caravan goes to villages in Suffolk and places people together. Although

0:56:15 > 0:56:23the things happening. In Seema's constituency in Lancashire, there is

0:56:23 > 0:56:26a veterans cafe. We need to measure what works and ensure that people

0:56:26 > 0:56:31can access things in all parts of the country. We are not putting a £

0:56:31 > 0:56:35to it, we want the Government to respond to our manifesto and come

0:56:35 > 0:56:41forward with a strategy and money to help tackle this issue. Whatever

0:56:41 > 0:56:45government does, it will not be enough. Because at the end of the

0:56:45 > 0:56:50day, to tackle loneliness, we need all of us to live our lives a little

0:56:50 > 0:56:54bit differently, to make time for others, but other people first and

0:56:54 > 0:56:58take this time over Christmas to perhaps not on somebody's door and

0:56:58 > 0:57:03to find somebody up and go and visit a relative or neighbour and put

0:57:03 > 0:57:07other people first and live your life it was a bit more like Jo Cox.

0:57:07 > 0:57:17Thank you both. Just quickly, your response. Loneliness, that the

0:57:17 > 0:57:20Government strategy, what you make of what you have just heard?It

0:57:20 > 0:57:30would be a great idea. Loneliness does not just affect people like Meg

0:57:30 > 0:57:34and me, there is everyone in between. Having somebody to

0:57:34 > 0:57:37coordinate and encourage people to do more, I think, could be really

0:57:37 > 0:57:44important.I think there needs to be an awful lot more out there to let

0:57:44 > 0:57:51lonely people realise that they are not on their own. Because

0:57:51 > 0:57:55loneliness, you isolated. So you do not believe somebody else feels the

0:57:55 > 0:58:05same way as you.As we know, there are 9 million people.More

0:58:05 > 0:58:11information, we are going to print brochures, I can put them in my

0:58:11 > 0:58:17local Church. Where I live, I know there are a lot of elderly people.

0:58:17 > 0:58:22People lonely. And if they see it advertised that there are places you

0:58:22 > 0:58:28can go, it will encourage people to go out.Thank you for coming in and

0:58:28 > 0:58:30sharing your stories.

0:58:30 > 0:58:32Let's get the latest weather update.

0:58:35 > 0:58:40We have still got snow on the ground in places, so for some of us this

0:58:40 > 0:58:45morning, it was a bit slippery. In Telford, the snow is still on the

0:58:45 > 0:58:50ground from last week. Many waking up with sunshine. And most of us

0:58:50 > 0:58:55today will have a dry and a bright day. Noticeably colder because we

0:58:55 > 0:59:00have air coming in from the Arctic with the isobars. Weather fronts on

0:59:00 > 0:59:03that northerly wind bringing in showers this morning. Some of those

0:59:03 > 0:59:06they bit wintry over the higher ground of Scotland through the North

0:59:06 > 0:59:11Yorkshire Moors and North Pennines. Into the afternoon, eastern areas

0:59:11 > 0:59:16have some showers. More showers into the far North and North West of

0:59:16 > 0:59:21Scotland. For most of Scotland, it is dry and sunny this afternoon and

0:59:21 > 0:59:27Northern Ireland and much of Northern England. Heavy showers this

0:59:27 > 0:59:30morning lightening into the afternoon. Showers around

0:59:30 > 0:59:34Pembrokeshire in Cornwall, but for much of Wales and the south-west,

0:59:34 > 0:59:38into the Midlands, it is looking sunny. Showers continuing across the

0:59:38 > 0:59:42Far East of England. These are the temperatures on the thermometer, 46

0:59:42 > 0:59:46degrees, and it will feel colder with the northerly wind. This

0:59:46 > 0:59:50evening and night, with clear skies, temperatures falling away pretty

0:59:50 > 0:59:54quickly and we expect a widespread frost to develop into Saturday

0:59:54 > 0:59:59morning. Temperatures in towns and cities at or below freezing. In the

0:59:59 > 1:00:03countryside, if you degrees lower. Boring Saturday morning, we still

1:00:03 > 1:00:10have this cold area from the Arctic. Over the weekend, noticed the

1:00:10 > 1:00:15Orange, the mild air spreading in from the South and West. With that,

1:00:15 > 1:00:20more cloud and rain. For the weekend, Saturday morning, rather

1:00:20 > 1:00:24cold and frosty start with sunshine, but more cloud developing in

1:00:24 > 1:00:27Northern Ireland in the North West England, Wales and the Midlands.

1:00:27 > 1:00:32Elsewhere, around that, some sunshine and quite cold in places,

1:00:32 > 1:00:35temperatures two or three degrees unless colder towards the south-west

1:00:35 > 1:00:38because the wind changes. Wind coming in from the South and West

1:00:38 > 1:00:45and with that, these weather systems moving into the North West. During

1:00:45 > 1:00:48Sunday, a very different data Saturday. What's more cloud around,

1:00:48 > 1:00:54heavy rain at at times, turning much milder as temperatures for many go

1:00:54 > 1:00:57up into double figures. And we keep the mild air as we go into the

1:00:57 > 1:01:02beginning of next week. Quite cloudy for much of next week, mist and fog

1:01:02 > 1:01:05patches could be a problem. Lots of dry weather around, although not

1:01:05 > 1:01:13ruling out some rain at at times. That is it.

1:01:13 > 1:01:24It's Friday, it's 10am.

1:01:24 > 1:01:27A rape trial collapses after phone evidence which could have proved

1:01:27 > 1:01:29the defendant's innocence two years ago is finally released to lawyers.

1:01:29 > 1:01:32A senior barrister in the case tells us what happened.

1:01:32 > 1:01:35This young man would have been sent to prison for 12 years and would

1:01:35 > 1:01:37have been on the sex offenders register for the rest of his life,

1:01:37 > 1:01:40with precious little chance of appeal. So, this was a massive,

1:01:40 > 1:01:47massive miscarriage of justice, which thank heavens, was avoided.

1:01:47 > 1:01:50EU leaders signal that they're ready to take Brexit talks

1:01:50 > 1:01:52to the next stage and work out what their relationship with Britain

1:01:52 > 1:01:56will look like when we leave.

1:01:56 > 1:02:00We will talk about moving onto phase 2, talking about the transition

1:02:00 > 1:02:05period and a new relationship that will exist between the EU and the

1:02:05 > 1:02:09UK. I think a lot of thinking needs to be done about that. It does seem

1:02:09 > 1:02:12to be quite divergent opinions on what that should look like.

1:02:12 > 1:02:14It's the Strictly Come Dancing final tomorrow night,

1:02:14 > 1:02:17marking the culmination of twelve weeks viewing and for many fans

1:02:17 > 1:02:19the terrifying thought that it will soon all be over.

1:02:19 > 1:02:22We'll be talking to some well known Strictly faces and some

1:02:22 > 1:02:24of the show's biggest fans

1:02:33 > 1:02:34Good morning.

1:02:34 > 1:02:42Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

1:02:42 > 1:02:45A judge has called for an enquiry after a student was cleared of rape

1:02:45 > 1:02:55when police failed to disclose evidence casting doubt on the case.

1:02:56 > 1:02:5922-year-old Liam Allen spent two years on bail before his trial at

1:02:59 > 1:03:01Croydon Crown Court was halted when it was

1:03:01 > 1:03:02revealed his accuser said the

1:03:02 > 1:03:04messages expressing fantasies about violent sex.

1:03:04 > 1:03:06Prosecuting lawyer Jerry Hayes told the programme this

1:03:06 > 1:03:09information did not come to light until he's pacific we asked police

1:03:09 > 1:03:11to give the defence team a list of

1:03:11 > 1:03:12the women's phone messages.

1:03:12 > 1:03:16I wanted that boy to know as soon as the decision was made, which I

1:03:16 > 1:03:21advised upon, that there should be no further evidence given.

1:03:21 > 1:03:24Obviously, he was happy, but this has been hanging over his head for

1:03:24 > 1:03:28two years. A young man of good character, he could have had his

1:03:28 > 1:03:32life totally trashed. That was awfully wrong.

1:03:32 > 1:03:35EU leaders are expected to formally agree to start the next phase

1:03:35 > 1:03:36of Brexit negotiations later.

1:03:36 > 1:03:39Talks on a transition deal could begin as early as next week.

1:03:39 > 1:03:42At a dinner in Brussels last night, Theresa May was applauded

1:03:42 > 1:03:44by her fellow leaders after stressing her desire

1:03:44 > 1:03:52for a "smooth" departure.

1:03:52 > 1:03:55Will be live in Brussels in the next half-hour for the latest.

1:03:55 > 1:03:58The Church of England has apologised to the family of a bishop

1:03:58 > 1:04:01for failings in the way it investigated allegations of child

1:04:01 > 1:04:03abuse against him more than 50 years after his death.

1:04:03 > 1:04:06George Bell, who died in 1958, was alleged to have repeatedly

1:04:06 > 1:04:07abused a young girl.

1:04:07 > 1:04:09She made a formal complaint in 1995 and, 10 years later,

1:04:09 > 1:04:11won an apology and compensation from the Church.

1:04:11 > 1:04:17An independent review of the investigation

1:04:17 > 1:04:20is being published this morning.

1:04:20 > 1:04:23An inquiry into child sexual abuse in Australia has made more

1:04:23 > 1:04:25than four-hundred recommendations in its final report.

1:04:25 > 1:04:27The Royal Commission -- which spent five years

1:04:27 > 1:04:29hearing evidence -- said tens of thousands of children

1:04:29 > 1:04:33had been assaulted at more than four-thousand institutions,

1:04:33 > 1:04:42including churches, orphanages and schools.

1:04:42 > 1:04:44Nine million adults in the UK are chronically lonely,

1:04:44 > 1:04:48according to a commission set up by the MP Jo Cox, before her murder.

1:04:48 > 1:04:51Nine million adults in the UK are chronically lonely,

1:04:51 > 1:04:53It says loneliness is as harmful to health as smoking

1:04:53 > 1:04:5515 cigarettes a day, and calls for a government-led

1:04:55 > 1:04:57national strategy to address the problem.

1:04:57 > 1:04:59That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30.

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1:05:46 > 1:05:52Here's some sport now with John Watson.

1:05:52 > 1:05:55We will start with cricket. England are attempting to wrestle back

1:05:55 > 1:06:00momentum at the end of day two of the third test in Perth. This is how

1:06:00 > 1:06:06the scorecard looks. England will roll out of 403. Australia have

1:06:06 > 1:06:12closed at 203-3, trailing by 200 runs. This is how the day unfolded.

1:06:12 > 1:06:16Jonny Bairstow celebrated his century and was eventually out for

1:06:16 > 1:06:26140. Mallon's 140, England looked set for refuge score at that stage,

1:06:26 > 1:06:34but when he went, the tail soon followed. Craig Overton in only his

1:06:34 > 1:06:41second test. The home fans were encouraged by Steve Smith's

1:06:41 > 1:06:46performance, the home captain. He closes in on his century. England

1:06:46 > 1:06:51with plenty to do going into the third day.

1:06:51 > 1:06:54The wife of Bradley Wiggins has apologised for comments she made

1:06:54 > 1:06:57about Chris Froome on social media after it emerged that he had been

1:06:57 > 1:07:06found to have double the permitted level of an asthma drug. She called

1:07:06 > 1:07:09him a slithering reptile and suggested he had been protected

1:07:09 > 1:07:13while Bradley Wiggins had been under scrutiny by his use of medication.

1:07:13 > 1:07:20She said her comments had been made in the heat of the moment.

1:07:20 > 1:07:23On Sunday, the BBC sports personality of the year awards will

1:07:23 > 1:07:27be handed out in Liverpool. The overseas personality of the year has

1:07:27 > 1:07:31been announced, and it has gone to Roger Federer. He has had a great

1:07:31 > 1:07:36year, winning his eighth Wimbledon title at the age of 35. He defied

1:07:36 > 1:07:39the odds and the injuries to win Wimbledon and the Australian open at

1:07:39 > 1:07:44the turn of the year, taking his grand slam tally to 19. This is a

1:07:44 > 1:07:50record fourth time that he has won the overseas award.

1:07:50 > 1:07:55Imagine your horse, if you have one, jumping over an obstacle the size of

1:07:55 > 1:07:59an Asian elephant. That is exactly what this person has done. It is the

1:07:59 > 1:08:04equivalent height that Laura Renwick jumped at the Olympia will show in

1:08:04 > 1:08:12London. She is riding Top Dollar, in an event in which the wall gets

1:08:12 > 1:08:17higher and higher. She cleared 2.2 metres, which no one else manage.

1:08:17 > 1:08:23The horses eight-year-old -- the horse is an eight-year-old, so even

1:08:23 > 1:08:30more impressive. Ronnie O'Sullivan took power naps at

1:08:30 > 1:08:33the Scottish snooker open yesterday. He said he was totally up for the

1:08:33 > 1:08:37count at times. It did the trick, though, as he went on to win the

1:08:37 > 1:08:40match and another in the evening to reach the quarterfinals. He will

1:08:40 > 1:08:46play John Higgins tonight. Whatever works, I guess! I will be back, wide

1:08:46 > 1:08:49awake, later.

1:08:49 > 1:08:53A judge in a rape trial has called for an inquiry at the 'very highest

1:08:53 > 1:08:55level' after it emerged that vital documents which proved

1:08:55 > 1:08:59the defendant's innocence were not disclosed to lawyers.

1:08:59 > 1:09:03After being on bail for nearly two years, 22 year old Liam Allen

1:09:03 > 1:09:06was told there was no case against him at Croydon Crown Court

1:09:06 > 1:09:14in South London yesterday.

1:09:14 > 1:09:20Liam told us it was overwhelming and it was hugely confusing to go from

1:09:20 > 1:09:25being the bill into being the innocent. Barrister Jerry Hayes told

1:09:25 > 1:09:31us what happened.This was a very serious multiple rape case. The

1:09:31 > 1:09:34person who made the allegations had given her evidence. The defence

1:09:34 > 1:09:37counsel said to me, have you got a disc of the downloads from her

1:09:37 > 1:09:42telephone? I said I had not seen it and the CPS had not seen it. I spoke

1:09:42 > 1:09:48to the officer who is responsible for disclosure and asked if he had

1:09:48 > 1:09:52it. He said he had but it could not be disclosed. I asked why and he

1:09:52 > 1:09:58said it was very personal matters. I said, is there anything on that this

1:09:58 > 1:10:01which could undermine the prosecution case or assist the

1:10:01 > 1:10:07defence? He said no, but I wasn't happy about that. I think, and I was

1:10:07 > 1:10:12right, that the defence should have that disc. We adjourned for a day.

1:10:12 > 1:10:16The defence saw on this disc information which completely blew

1:10:16 > 1:10:20the prosecution case out of the window. If they hadn't had that

1:10:20 > 1:10:24disclosure, this young man would have been sent to prison for 12

1:10:24 > 1:10:27years, and would have been on the sex offenders register for the rest

1:10:27 > 1:10:31of his life. He would have had precious little chance of appeal.

1:10:31 > 1:10:36So, this was a massive, massive miscarriage of justice which, thank

1:10:36 > 1:10:41heavens, was avoided.Why do you think that police repeatedly

1:10:41 > 1:10:45insisted that there was nothing of interest for the prosecution of the

1:10:45 > 1:10:52defence?I don't think they had looked at it properly. There were

1:10:52 > 1:11:002400 pages and around 50,000 texts. I don't think they had looked at it.

1:11:00 > 1:11:03Police officers sometimes don't understand that it is their duty to

1:11:03 > 1:11:08investigate these matters, to report it to the CPS and then a CPS lawyer

1:11:08 > 1:11:11will contact me and we will decide what to do with it. There is no

1:11:11 > 1:11:15question of lying or misleading, it's just sheer incompetence, I'm

1:11:15 > 1:11:23afraid.We also heard that to save costs, material wasn't always handed

1:11:23 > 1:11:34to defence lawyers. What is your response to that?

1:11:36 > 1:11:42Is I'm not entirely sure about that. You have to understand that the CPS

1:11:42 > 1:11:46and the police, and all of us in the criminal justice system, are under

1:11:46 > 1:11:49tremendous pressure because we're running out of money. This is a

1:11:49 > 1:11:55system that is not just creaking, it's about to croak. If we have any

1:11:55 > 1:12:00more treasury cutbacks, there will be more cases like this. Except that

1:12:00 > 1:12:04they won't come before people like you.We spoke to Liam this morning,

1:12:04 > 1:12:08and he said he's not ready to do interviews yet, but he is so

1:12:08 > 1:12:14grateful to you. Can you tell us about the moment he found out the

1:12:14 > 1:12:20trial had collapsed?I gave him advice, as soon as we asked for the

1:12:20 > 1:12:23jury to be discharged and we had the information available. I wanted that

1:12:23 > 1:12:27Boyd to know as soon as the decision was made, which I advised upon, that

1:12:27 > 1:12:31there should be no further evidence given. Obviously, he was happy, but

1:12:31 > 1:12:36this has been hanging over his head for two years. A young man of good

1:12:36 > 1:12:40character. He could have had his life totally trashed. That was

1:12:40 > 1:12:46awfully wrong.How concerned argued that this could be happening in

1:12:46 > 1:12:51other cases?It has happened in other cases. I had a similar case

1:12:51 > 1:12:57and I wrote a piece in the Times a few months ago. It was a firearms

1:12:57 > 1:13:01case and there was a mini report saying that the guy's DNA was found

1:13:01 > 1:13:07on the magazine of a gun. When we looked at the report, it said that

1:13:07 > 1:13:13his DNA was not on it. I'm afraid, the more cuts come to this service,

1:13:13 > 1:13:17the more chance that a miscarriage of justice will come. And it is

1:13:17 > 1:13:25unacceptable.Andy Moore joins us now live from theirs broke court.

1:13:25 > 1:13:34What response has there been?We heard from the prosecuting

1:13:34 > 1:13:39barrister, and it was his job to put Liam Allen behind bars, and he said

1:13:39 > 1:13:42he would have done unless this evidence had come to light at the

1:13:42 > 1:13:46last minute. There is no accusation by him made against the CPS. He said

1:13:46 > 1:13:51they really just had to make do with the evidence they were given by the

1:13:51 > 1:13:55police. Nonetheless, we have had a statement from the CPS, and they say

1:13:55 > 1:13:59that all prosecutions are kept under continuous review, and prosecutors

1:13:59 > 1:14:08are required to take account of any change in circumstances as the case

1:14:08 > 1:14:11develops. They went on to say that they had more material in the case

1:14:11 > 1:14:14of Liam Allen and they decided to offer no evidence at the hearing

1:14:14 > 1:14:17yesterday. They said there will be a joint management review with the

1:14:17 > 1:14:21Metropolitan police to examine the way in which this case was handled.

1:14:21 > 1:14:25The police themselves have issued a brief statement, the Metropolitan

1:14:25 > 1:14:29police, and they say: We are aware of this case being dismissed from

1:14:29 > 1:14:33court and are carrying out an urgent assessment to establish the

1:14:33 > 1:14:36circumstances which led to this action being taken. They say, we are

1:14:36 > 1:14:42working closely with the CPS, and keeping in close contact with the

1:14:42 > 1:14:46victim whilst this process takes place. A little more from Liam

1:14:46 > 1:14:51Allen. I know he spoke to him briefly this morning, but speaking

1:14:51 > 1:14:54outside Croydon Crown Court yesterday, when this case collapsed,

1:14:54 > 1:14:59he said: I can't explain the mental torture of the past two years. I

1:14:59 > 1:15:04feel betrayed by the system, he said, which I had believed would do

1:15:04 > 1:15:08the right thing. I young student at Sussex University, he had not been

1:15:08 > 1:15:12able to go to university for the last couple of years, his name now

1:15:12 > 1:15:16clear.Andy Moore, thank you very much. Speaking to us from

1:15:16 > 1:15:19Snaresbrook Crown Court.

1:15:19 > 1:15:21A five-year inquiry into child sexual abuse in Australia has been

1:15:21 > 1:15:24published, identifying abuse at more than four thousand institutions,

1:15:24 > 1:15:25including religious organisations, sporting clubs, foster homes

1:15:25 > 1:15:30and the military.

1:15:30 > 1:15:32The Royal Commission heard harrowing testimony from survivors

1:15:32 > 1:15:35across Australia and made a number of recommendations in its report -

1:15:35 > 1:15:39including calling on the Catholic Church

1:15:39 > 1:15:42to overhaul its celibacy rules.

1:15:42 > 1:15:44Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull paid tribute to the courage

1:15:44 > 1:15:50of those who gave evidence.

1:15:50 > 1:15:56What that commission has done has been to expose a national tragedy.

1:15:56 > 1:16:00It is a NextTech -- it is an outstanding exercise in love, and I

1:16:00 > 1:16:02think the committee -- I thank the commissioners and those who had the

1:16:02 > 1:16:07courage to tell their stories.

1:16:07 > 1:16:09Ray Leary is one of the up to 60,000 survivors.

1:16:09 > 1:16:11He's been campaigning for the so-called 'forgotten

1:16:11 > 1:16:13Australians' to be heard and described what the final

1:16:13 > 1:16:23report meant to him.

1:16:27 > 1:16:30I hope they give it to the governments and the Government

1:16:30 > 1:16:37stands up and takes notice of all our sad stories. Don't make this

1:16:37 > 1:16:42sad, but it really happened. And we believe the now around the world

1:16:42 > 1:16:47because as adults, we were talking about our childhood. And for a lot

1:16:47 > 1:16:54of us, so, so many of us, it was so hard. Men and women in their 40s,

1:16:54 > 1:16:5850s, 60s, 70s. It was devastating. But I think the Royal Commission

1:16:58 > 1:17:03heard everyone of us, listens to everyone of us, and again, believed

1:17:03 > 1:17:12us. Like the apology said in 2009, we believe. If they believe is, now

1:17:12 > 1:17:16do something about it. Protect our children and our grandchildren for

1:17:16 > 1:17:18the future.

1:17:18 > 1:17:25Leonie Sheedy is the co-founder of the survivor advocacy organisation

1:17:25 > 1:17:28Care Leavers Australia Network, and she travelled to Canberra to see

1:17:28 > 1:17:32the report being handed over to the Governor General.

1:17:32 > 1:17:42Hello.Hello. What is your response to today's report, after five years?

1:17:42 > 1:17:47It's a momentous day.

1:17:47 > 1:17:53In Australia's history. The churches and charities and state governments

1:17:53 > 1:17:58who failed in their duty of care to children raised in Australia's

1:17:58 > 1:18:02orphanages and children in homes and foster care and missions can no

1:18:02 > 1:18:06longer state they did not know. The churches and the charities and all

1:18:06 > 1:18:11those people who ran those horrid homes can no longer cover-up the

1:18:11 > 1:18:16crimes that were committed against us children. We had to grow up

1:18:16 > 1:18:22without our parents and pretend it didn't matter. It did matter. And

1:18:22 > 1:18:27Australia, we need action now. We want the Prime Minister and the

1:18:27 > 1:18:33opposition leader to join together in a bipartisan manner and implement

1:18:33 > 1:18:40the recommendations of the Royal Commission ASAP.What are those

1:18:40 > 1:18:45recommendations, if you can sum them up, and do they go far enough?Look,

1:18:45 > 1:18:53it has only been about five hours since we saw, I have not even seen a

1:18:53 > 1:19:01hard copy of the report, but I know that is a mission working with

1:19:01 > 1:19:05children and it should be with vulnerable people because in

1:19:05 > 1:19:09orphanages, we are fearful we will be abused again in an age care

1:19:09 > 1:19:13facility. So we need a national group working with children and

1:19:13 > 1:19:17vulnerable people and we need, I don't think this is in the

1:19:17 > 1:19:22recommendations, but I am going to make sure it is one of the

1:19:22 > 1:19:24recommendations that paedophiles should never be able to change their

1:19:24 > 1:19:30name by deed poll. We need a national sex offenders register. To

1:19:30 > 1:19:38protect children. And we need recognition that if you remove a

1:19:38 > 1:19:43child from an unsafe environment, a family home, eat you need to put the

1:19:43 > 1:19:50dollars and cents into providing therapy for that child on the day

1:19:50 > 1:19:55you remove that child from their biological family. And we children,

1:19:55 > 1:19:58we which Auden once and we were separated from our brothers and

1:19:58 > 1:20:03sisters and our parents -- we were children. Nobody cared about those

1:20:03 > 1:20:08feelings and our loss of identity, a loss of culture. We were made to

1:20:08 > 1:20:15walk in laundries and on farms, we were called numbers. And we were not

1:20:15 > 1:20:18just physically and psychologically abused, we were also used sexually

1:20:18 > 1:20:28by priests, nuns, holiday hosts. Not always the religious. They had no

1:20:28 > 1:20:32religion, in what people. They were members of Australian society who

1:20:32 > 1:20:36worked in an orphanage. You did not have to have any particular

1:20:36 > 1:20:40qualifications to work with children who are suffering deep traumatic

1:20:40 > 1:20:48events.As we heard, the abuse took place in major institutions,

1:20:48 > 1:20:52churches, schools, sports clubs. As an abuse victim and from the work

1:20:52 > 1:20:56you have done, how difficult has it been for these people to come

1:20:56 > 1:21:00forward and talk about what has happened to them?Well, for many

1:21:00 > 1:21:03years, care leavers who did try to speak out, we were not believed.

1:21:03 > 1:21:11Children like others, we were not raised without parents and we were

1:21:11 > 1:21:14considered second-class citizens of this country. It is extremely

1:21:14 > 1:21:19difficult to go and report the people, they are judged in a very

1:21:19 > 1:21:25high standard in Australia and put on pedestals. Australian governments

1:21:25 > 1:21:31fund these charities and churches to do the work. And if you went back to

1:21:31 > 1:21:35the organisation that abuse due in an orphanage, you are not believed.

1:21:35 > 1:21:39And children ran away from orphanages and tried to tell the

1:21:39 > 1:21:43police and police returned those children straight into the hands of

1:21:43 > 1:21:47the abusers. The oldest person I have supported at the Royal

1:21:47 > 1:21:50Commission was a 92-year-old woman who had been sexually abused in a

1:21:50 > 1:21:56Catholic orphanage. We do not trust people, we don't trust the police,

1:21:56 > 1:22:05the Government, the churches. But with all that disbelief and trust,

1:22:05 > 1:22:13the Royal Commission worked so hard to gain the trust of care leavers

1:22:13 > 1:22:17and those six Australians are so highly valued for the work that they

1:22:17 > 1:22:21did to gain our trust, to respect others and the believers and to

1:22:21 > 1:22:25validate and that knowledge the terrible and he knows crimes that

1:22:25 > 1:22:32were committed on us as children. -- and terrible crimes that were

1:22:32 > 1:22:36committed.Thank you so much for talking to us today. Breaking news

1:22:36 > 1:22:41now, the death toll from the collision between a train and a bus

1:22:41 > 1:22:46in Southern France has risen and it has gone up to six. The death toll

1:22:46 > 1:22:52from a crash between a school bus and a train, four teenagers died on

1:22:52 > 1:22:57Thursday, we previously heard, at an accident at a level crossing in a

1:22:57 > 1:23:03small village near Perpignan on and that death toll has gone up to six.

1:23:03 > 1:23:05EU leaders are meeting in Brussels this morning -

1:23:05 > 1:23:07without Theresa May - to decide whether to allow Britain

1:23:07 > 1:23:10to move onto the second round of Brexit negotiations.

1:23:10 > 1:23:12It's thought council members will vote to approve what's

1:23:12 > 1:23:14been agreed upon so far.

1:23:14 > 1:23:16But Theresa May's authority was challenged this week,

1:23:16 > 1:23:18when a number of MPs from her own party voted

1:23:18 > 1:23:21against her to demand that parliament get a vote

1:23:21 > 1:23:23on the final EU deal.

1:23:23 > 1:23:25We can speak now to our correspondent, Christian Fraser,

1:23:25 > 1:23:29who's in Brussels.

1:23:29 > 1:23:37What can we expect?Well, a two-hour discussion is currently under way,

1:23:37 > 1:23:43with a draft proposal, the 27 metres, and we expect to run through

1:23:43 > 1:23:47the first phase, the withdrawal agreement. I have seen a copy of the

1:23:47 > 1:23:50text and they say they want the withdrawal agreement put into a

1:23:50 > 1:23:55regal format and they to be legally binding. And they will talk about

1:23:55 > 1:24:00the guidelines for the next phase, the future relationship. And it is

1:24:00 > 1:24:04going to be very difficult, the next phase, getting everybody around the

1:24:04 > 1:24:08same idea about what kind of relationship it will be. She's doing

1:24:08 > 1:24:12with 27 parties. And the 28 his own Parliament and there was regulation

1:24:12 > 1:24:17she had been undermined by the boat in the Commons on Wednesday, but not

1:24:17 > 1:24:21a bit of it. There has been a lot of backslapping at the way Theresa May

1:24:21 > 1:24:26has run this negotiation so far and you get that in the words of Jean

1:24:26 > 1:24:31Claude-Juncker when he left the building last night.I have

1:24:31 > 1:24:34extraordinary faith in the British Prime Minister. She has aggrieved

1:24:34 > 1:24:40with me and Michel Barnier that the agreement will be formalised and

1:24:40 > 1:24:44voted on and then we will see. The second phase will be significantly

1:24:44 > 1:24:52harder than the first and the first was very difficult.Well, I would

1:24:52 > 1:24:57suspect that in the first two mums, they are primarily talking about the

1:24:57 > 1:25:00transition, how long the transition will be and what rules Britain will

1:25:00 > 1:25:04be subject to. It seems the European leaders have gathered around one

1:25:04 > 1:25:09position that Britain will be subject to the rules of the single

1:25:09 > 1:25:12market, the customs union and under the jurisdiction of the European

1:25:12 > 1:25:19Court which some Brexiteers will not like. It appears Theresa May has

1:25:19 > 1:25:24accepted that so maybe we will move from that on the web framework for

1:25:24 > 1:25:28the future deal. It is there where opinions diverged on the kind of

1:25:28 > 1:25:34relationship it is going to be. Listen to Leo Varadkar, the Irish

1:25:34 > 1:25:39Taoiseach.

1:25:39 > 1:25:42Talking about the transition period and the new relationship that will

1:25:42 > 1:25:47exist between the EU and the UK. A lot of thinking needs to be done

1:25:47 > 1:25:49about that. There seems to be quite diverging opinions on what that

1:25:49 > 1:25:52should look like. Needless to say...

1:25:52 > 1:25:55From an Irish point of view, we'd like it to look

1:25:55 > 1:25:57as much like the current relationship as possible.

1:25:57 > 1:25:59But that would not necessarily be the view of everyone.

1:25:59 > 1:26:05The thoughts now of a German MEP and a member of the Green group in the

1:26:05 > 1:26:11European Parliament. The paper is front of them it seems clear they

1:26:11 > 1:26:15will rubber-stamp what has been agreed so far. Let's talk about the

1:26:15 > 1:26:19transition, how long do you think transition should last?I think it

1:26:19 > 1:26:23is not going to be a super affair because it is going to be fairly

1:26:23 > 1:26:29difficult to agree on something. Usually to do a trade deal with any

1:26:29 > 1:26:32other country, it takes seven, ten years. With Great Britain, we

1:26:32 > 1:26:37already have common rules so it might be much shorter, but that

1:26:37 > 1:26:43means several years. I would not expect a fast transition period.Leo

1:26:43 > 1:26:50Varadkar, the Irish Taoiseach, is concerned about the future

1:26:50 > 1:26:54relationship and Theresa May has not had a substantive conversation with

1:26:54 > 1:26:57her own Cabinet. How do you square the idea of complete alignment with

1:26:57 > 1:27:01this idea Britain will go its own way and sort out its own trade

1:27:01 > 1:27:05deals?I am really having difficulties with that because for

1:27:05 > 1:27:10the Northern Ireland question, this is a key question. How this is

1:27:10 > 1:27:12supposed to be solved, it would really love to see a proposal from

1:27:12 > 1:27:17the British Government which we have not seen so far, and that is a

1:27:17 > 1:27:21difficult question to solve.Are you thinking that the wane negotiations

1:27:21 > 1:27:26are going at the moment, Britain heading towards what they describe

1:27:26 > 1:27:31as a soft Brexit?I would certainly hope that we don't fall into the

1:27:31 > 1:27:36trap of a hard Brexit that would hurt both sides of the story. So I

1:27:36 > 1:27:40am hoping that we get a good agreement together because the UK is

1:27:40 > 1:27:44not going to move away geographically, it is very important

1:27:44 > 1:27:48to have very good relationships with the UK in the future. It is also

1:27:48 > 1:27:52clear we need substance, we need the content to be good. So for me, this

1:27:52 > 1:27:58is really content rather than speed. There was a notion in the

1:27:58 > 1:28:02Parliament, MEPs voted to approve the first phase of the withdrawal.

1:28:02 > 1:28:07And there was another that's it Davis had undermined some the trust,

1:28:07 > 1:28:16why did you feel it necessary to put that on the record? In finding a way

1:28:16 > 1:28:20out of a relationship and building a new one, trust is an essential

1:28:20 > 1:28:24issue.Without that, nothing will work, so it is really not a good

1:28:24 > 1:28:27idea for a Minister of the Government to say, this is not

1:28:27 > 1:28:32really clear so we are going to put everything into a legally binding

1:28:32 > 1:28:36agreement so everything is on paper. But it is not good for the future

1:28:36 > 1:28:40relationship that we cannot rely on each other any more.That is

1:28:40 > 1:28:43something we need to stress. When you look at what happened in the

1:28:43 > 1:28:49last couple weeks, was David Davis pushed aside and Theresa May came to

1:28:49 > 1:28:53the fore? Having been hit last week and watching what went on yesterday,

1:28:53 > 1:28:58they want to deal specifically with her and the dynamic has changed

1:28:58 > 1:29:06quite substantially from where it was a year ago.Yes, certainly,

1:29:06 > 1:29:11because if she is the one you can trust and belief, she is needed in

1:29:11 > 1:29:15the negotiations. Anyway, she is the Prime Minister, so that is the

1:29:15 > 1:29:19interlocutor. That is why I am not sure that this is necessarily a

1:29:19 > 1:29:23shift of attitude, but we will have to see that.It's sort of undermines

1:29:23 > 1:29:28the position of David Davis, he is the front man for Britain in this

1:29:28 > 1:29:31next part of the negotiation and if there is no trust and you have put

1:29:31 > 1:29:35that on record in the European Parliament, how does he carry on the

1:29:35 > 1:29:39negotiation?That is certainly for the British Government to solve but

1:29:39 > 1:29:41he has himself undermined his position regarding his European

1:29:41 > 1:29:46counterparts.Ska Keller, thank you very much. We are waiting for news

1:29:46 > 1:29:50of that to our discussion. I don't think there is any doubt they will

1:29:50 > 1:29:53move it onto the next stage and Michel Barnier who came into the

1:29:53 > 1:29:57building just under one are ago said that he is optimistic he will be

1:29:57 > 1:30:02given a mandate to start negotiating that in the New Year.Thank you for

1:30:02 > 1:30:03keeping us updated.

1:30:03 > 1:30:08Still to come:

1:30:08 > 1:30:12This programme understands that no police were stationed inside this

1:30:12 > 1:30:15year's V festival because of the dispute over money. We'll have the

1:30:15 > 1:30:22details. After 13 weeks, it is the Strictly

1:30:22 > 1:30:28final tomorrow night. We will be joined by Anton Du Beke and some

1:30:28 > 1:30:31super fans.

1:30:31 > 1:30:41Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

1:30:43 > 1:30:48A judge has called for an enquiry after a rape case collapsed when new

1:30:48 > 1:30:57evidence was found. Liam Allen spent two years is on trial before it

1:30:57 > 1:31:01emerged that his alleged victim had sent him text messages about

1:31:01 > 1:31:06fantasies of violent sex. The evidence did not come to light until

1:31:06 > 1:31:11the judge asked more evidence to be produced.

1:31:11 > 1:31:13EU leaders are expected to formally agree to start the next phase

1:31:13 > 1:31:15of Brexit negotiations later.

1:31:15 > 1:31:18Talks on a transition deal could begin as early as next week.

1:31:18 > 1:31:20At a dinner in Brussels last night, Theresa May was applauded

1:31:20 > 1:31:22by her fellow leaders after stressing her desire

1:31:22 > 1:31:26for a "smooth" departure.

1:31:26 > 1:31:39We'll be live in Brussels for the very latest soon.

1:31:39 > 1:31:42The Church of England has apologised to the family of a bishop

1:31:42 > 1:31:44for failings in the way it investigated allegations of child

1:31:44 > 1:31:47abuse against him more than 50 years after his death.

1:31:47 > 1:31:49George Bell, who died in 1958, was alleged to have repeatedly

1:31:49 > 1:31:50abused a young girl.

1:31:50 > 1:31:53She made a formal complaint in 1995 and, 10 years later,

1:31:53 > 1:31:55won an apology and compensation from the Church.

1:31:55 > 1:31:56An independent review of the investigation

1:31:56 > 1:32:06is being published this morning.

1:32:07 > 1:32:14Reports say that the death toll has risen to six after the train crash

1:32:14 > 1:32:23in southern France in which a train collided with a school bus.

1:32:23 > 1:32:25One in six parents in the UK gives their

1:32:25 > 1:32:28children alcohol by the age of 14 according to new research, despite

1:32:28 > 1:32:30medical research that says children should not

1:32:30 > 1:32:31drink until they are a

1:32:31 > 1:32:32year older.

1:32:32 > 1:32:33Researchers from University College London bound

1:32:33 > 1:32:36bright and well educated parents were most likely to have a relaxed

1:32:36 > 1:32:43attitude to young people drinking.

1:32:43 > 1:32:53That's a summary of the latest news. Time to get sport now, with Watson.

1:32:53 > 1:32:57Is Australian captain Steve Smith has wrestled back momentum after he

1:32:57 > 1:33:02closed in on another test century when England were all out for 403. A

1:33:02 > 1:33:04big task for England's bowlers tomorrow in a match they can't

1:33:04 > 1:33:20afford to lose. Aljaz bid any has decided to switch his allegiance to

1:33:20 > 1:33:29play in the Davis cup. Roger Federer has been named as the BBC's overseas

1:33:29 > 1:33:37sports personality of the year for a record fourth time.

1:33:37 > 1:33:42The wife of Sir Bradley Wiggins has apologised for calling Chris Froome

1:33:42 > 1:33:45a slithering reptile on social media. She made the comment in the

1:33:45 > 1:33:48wake of a failed drug test but later deleted the post and said she had

1:33:48 > 1:33:52been speaking in the heat of the moment. That is all the spot for

1:33:52 > 1:33:57now. Back to you.

1:33:57 > 1:34:00Some people may be already thinking about which festivals they'll be

1:34:00 > 1:34:02attending next summer, with tickets for some

1:34:02 > 1:34:04going on sale in the new year.

1:34:04 > 1:34:06Months after the Manchester Arena terror attack, this programme has

1:34:06 > 1:34:10found out that there were no police at V Festival 2017 in Chelmsford

1:34:10 > 1:34:13because of a dispute over money.

1:34:13 > 1:34:21Our entertainment reporter, Chi Chi Izundu, has more.

1:34:21 > 1:34:26How did this information come about in the first place?In the summer,

1:34:26 > 1:34:31Essex police announced there would be no police presence at the V

1:34:31 > 1:34:39Festival in Chelmsford. We wanted to know why, so we asked. We ask to see

1:34:39 > 1:34:43all the meeting notes and correspondence with a Freedom of

1:34:43 > 1:34:49information request. There is a safety advisory group meeting, which

1:34:49 > 1:34:56consists of people from the festival organisers, emergency services, and

1:34:56 > 1:34:59Chelmsford city council, who grant a licence for the festival to go

1:34:59 > 1:35:03ahead. The notes revealed a number of issues, including a disagreement

1:35:03 > 1:35:09over how much would be paid for policing. We must stress that

1:35:09 > 1:35:15private policing at a commercial event comes out of the pocket of the

1:35:15 > 1:35:23organiser, not the taxpayer. In 2016, Festival Republic paid

1:35:23 > 1:35:29£138,000 for police to be present on site at the festival. In 2017, they

1:35:29 > 1:35:35submitted a request for it to be £100,000, but police and organisers

1:35:35 > 1:35:39couldn't come to an agreement, so it never really happened. Because the

1:35:39 > 1:35:43agreement couldn't be reached, the advice from Essex police was that if

1:35:43 > 1:35:49anything happened at the festival, security was to dial 101, or if it

1:35:49 > 1:35:54was an emergency, dial 999. A council representative said in one

1:35:54 > 1:35:57of those safety advisory group meetings that dialling that number

1:35:57 > 1:36:02became an issue. It became an issue because, as you can imagine, it's a

1:36:02 > 1:36:11number for everyone. The police did say that the festival had no greater

1:36:11 > 1:36:15priority than anyone else in the whole county. The other issues

1:36:15 > 1:36:19flagged were that there was sexual assaults that happen. One of them,

1:36:19 > 1:36:23they couldn't even establish where it had happened. There was a lot of

1:36:23 > 1:36:27concern over drugs, because security did not have the powers of detention

1:36:27 > 1:36:35or arrest. And another concern that was thrown up was that, as well as

1:36:35 > 1:36:42not having detention or arrest powers, security were vetted,

1:36:42 > 1:36:48because they have to be, as part of getting the licence. But some of the

1:36:48 > 1:36:52other 740 people working at the event may not have been vetted on

1:36:52 > 1:36:56time, ahead of the event, and that was an issue that kept being brought

1:36:56 > 1:37:04up by police in these meeting notes. They stretched from November 2016 to

1:37:04 > 1:37:07October 2017, and they had a number of meetings, including several on

1:37:07 > 1:37:14the days of the festival. So, yes, that's how we found out that the

1:37:14 > 1:37:19police weren't present at V Festival 2017 in Chelmsford.What have Essex

1:37:19 > 1:37:25police said in response?We spoke to the deputy chief constable, BJ

1:37:25 > 1:37:30Harrington, who said that policing and the safety of people at a

1:37:30 > 1:37:37private event is up to the organisers. It is not up to the tax

1:37:37 > 1:37:42payer. They will provide it if they can, because the number of forces

1:37:42 > 1:37:46having staffing issues is widely known, but he did say that it is up

1:37:46 > 1:37:59to the organisers to keep people safe.Thank you very much.

1:37:59 > 1:38:01For Strictly Come Dancing fans, the annual moment has arrived -

1:38:01 > 1:38:04the culmination of 12 weeks' viewing and the terrifying thought that it

1:38:04 > 1:38:05will soon all be over.

1:38:05 > 1:38:07It's the final tomorrow night, when the 15th

1:38:07 > 1:38:08series draws to a close.

1:38:08 > 1:38:11In a moment, we'll be talking to some well-known Strictly faces

1:38:11 > 1:38:13and some of the show's biggest fans.

1:38:13 > 1:38:16But first, let's take a look back at some of the thrills and spills

1:38:16 > 1:38:23from this year's competition.

1:38:23 > 1:38:36Dancing the cha-cha-cha, the Reverend Richard Coles...

1:38:40 > 1:38:44Sayonara one thing is for sure, she will never pass for a bowl. -- one

1:38:44 > 1:39:06thing is for sure - she will never pass for a bull.He has won strictly

1:39:06 > 1:39:09for me.

1:39:20 > 1:39:24I found it powerful but sensual. Strictly as a marathon, not a

1:39:24 > 1:39:29sprint, and I feel like you are here for the long run.

1:39:38 > 1:39:47I don't think I've ever seen a tango like that from a celebrity. Amazing!

1:39:59 > 1:40:07Well done. You will write? -- you all write?

1:40:19 > 1:40:24You took a big risk. Did it pay off with its inventiveness? I think it

1:40:24 > 1:40:30did.If you could hear the conversations that were going on

1:40:30 > 1:40:37here... Anton Du Beke, one of only two Mike Catt mag strictly dancers

1:40:37 > 1:40:46who have danced in every series, is with us. Kristyna, who danced during

1:40:46 > 1:40:50her seven years on the show, and we are joined by super fans. Thanks for

1:40:50 > 1:40:55joining us. It is a great moment tonight, but a sad one - the

1:40:55 > 1:41:00Strictly final. This series, number 15, I think, apparently has been the

1:41:00 > 1:41:07most popular today. Why do you think that is?It is because... I don't

1:41:07 > 1:41:16like to brag, but it was very much be! It is just a huge show. Every

1:41:16 > 1:41:20year, it comes back with new celebrities, some already, we have a

1:41:20 > 1:41:26new show.A new judge.Of course, yes. Some new dancers, three new

1:41:26 > 1:41:31girls there as well. The show is so layered that you can love it for so

1:41:31 > 1:41:35many different reasons. Either you love the couples, you see the

1:41:35 > 1:41:41relationships of the couples, the dancers are much more well-known,

1:41:41 > 1:41:45having been there for a number of years. We enjoy getting to see who

1:41:45 > 1:41:49dances with who. The lawn show is so popular for that reason. Then we are

1:41:49 > 1:41:52gearing up for the final, and it's been a great standard. We keep

1:41:52 > 1:41:58saying, this is the best standards ever. A couple of those clips there,

1:41:58 > 1:42:03this year, I must say, the quality has been outstanding. People have

1:42:03 > 1:42:09tried new things.You're not just talking about yourself!Of course,

1:42:09 > 1:42:13I'm talking about myself! We tried new things. I look and I think I

1:42:13 > 1:42:17cannot believe they are trying to do that in such a short period of time

1:42:17 > 1:42:21that a person who is not a dancer will stop the things that are being

1:42:21 > 1:42:25pulled off, I still don't know how people don't get halfway through a

1:42:25 > 1:42:28dance on a Saturday night, the celebrities, and turn round to Dave

1:42:28 > 1:42:35afterwards and say, thank you, Dave, I can't remember a thing. But they

1:42:35 > 1:42:41pull it off.What are your standout moments?My tango with Simon Webb.

1:42:41 > 1:42:46Me, that was the danced to remember, in Blackpool in the final. That was

1:42:46 > 1:42:50the most successful season for me. The show involves so much -- the

1:42:50 > 1:42:54show has evolved so much. If you think about John Sergeant and the

1:42:54 > 1:42:59famous drag across the floor...Who can forget?It involves so much, and

1:42:59 > 1:43:04the dancers are pushing the envelope every year. They are carrying the

1:43:04 > 1:43:07show forward with their inventive choreography and excellent choices

1:43:07 > 1:43:13of music and everything else.Super fans, who do you think will win?We

1:43:13 > 1:43:20were talking about this, when we? I think, me personally, I'm really

1:43:20 > 1:43:26undecided. For the first time.That helps!Although I am steering

1:43:26 > 1:43:32towards Gemma, because I like her journey. Her, for me. But they are

1:43:32 > 1:43:40all amazing. And the new partners. Gemma is the only one left in the

1:43:40 > 1:43:42final who hasn't had proper dance training, is that right?That's

1:43:42 > 1:43:52right.Joe.He was in a West End show.They have been to stage school

1:43:52 > 1:43:57and they know how to hold themselves.If you have danced

1:43:57 > 1:44:02before, or had an element of training in whatever branch of dance

1:44:02 > 1:44:07musical theatre, it gives you just an advantage, slightly, in picking

1:44:07 > 1:44:12up the routine a bit quicker, really. And then, perhaps being a

1:44:12 > 1:44:16bit more comfortable on Saturday night, going out and performing. But

1:44:16 > 1:44:19nothing prepares you for going out on Saturday night. You've been

1:44:19 > 1:44:23dancing in a studio with your partner all week, and then suddenly,

1:44:23 > 1:44:27you go about on Saturday night in front of 12 million viewers, the

1:44:27 > 1:44:33studio audience and the judges, and you hear the words - and dancing the

1:44:33 > 1:44:45foxtrot... And your legs go numb.Is even you, after all this time?I

1:44:45 > 1:44:49sometimes go, you can't remember this, can you?You can see it in

1:44:49 > 1:44:55their eyes that they are petrified. Jane McDonald was like that at --

1:44:55 > 1:45:03Jason was like that every week.And he was in the West End.Back to the

1:45:03 > 1:45:07final. There had been controversies and we see everything played out on

1:45:07 > 1:45:11social media. It is interesting how Joe McFadden is the favourite, it's

1:45:11 > 1:45:16fair to say. West End experience. Alexandra Burke, also has had West

1:45:16 > 1:45:20End experience. But she's been getting all the stick. I know she's

1:45:20 > 1:45:32a professional dancer as well.Who? Alexandra Burke.No.The skills

1:45:32 > 1:45:37help.Everything helps.Ballroom and Latin are different from any other

1:45:37 > 1:45:40form of dancing because you are partnering someone else and you have

1:45:40 > 1:45:45to learn how to communicate on the floor. It's so different, it really

1:45:45 > 1:45:50is.How do you explain, despite being the competition's highest

1:45:50 > 1:45:57scorer, Alexandra Burke, all the social media trolling?I am sad

1:45:57 > 1:46:03people feel the need to want to do that. She is an absolute beauty, as

1:46:03 > 1:46:06they all are. And they are having a great time and they have enjoyed the

1:46:06 > 1:46:11process. We want people to get involved in that element. The other

1:46:11 > 1:46:16stuff is just people not being very nice and being unpleasant.She is an

1:46:16 > 1:46:25amazing performer.Next finalist, Debbie McGee, disgust.Andy McGee! I

1:46:25 > 1:46:31admire her so much. Some of the evenings when I felt really tired, I

1:46:31 > 1:46:36bought myself, think about the Debbie McGee, that woman is

1:46:36 > 1:46:39incredible! She goes out there and does tricks which nobody dares to

1:46:39 > 1:46:44do. She is incredible. And she did show a lot of good to have somebody

1:46:44 > 1:46:47like her going all the way to the final and maybe even winning

1:46:47 > 1:46:52tomorrow night.I know I keep going on about professional dance

1:46:52 > 1:46:56training, but a ballet dancer.But she is 59 years old.Her strength

1:46:56 > 1:47:02and stamina is incredible.And it was original, nobody expected her to

1:47:02 > 1:47:07do those things. And her legs suddenly by her ears and all we had

1:47:07 > 1:47:11seen her do was this with Paul Daniels. It was such a revelation

1:47:11 > 1:47:16and everybody has got behind her, nobody expected it.It is touching

1:47:16 > 1:47:22because she said it has brought back the sparkle after he died. And for

1:47:22 > 1:47:26me, that has touched a little emotional chord.Who are you backing

1:47:26 > 1:47:36to win tomorrow?Joel and catty. I think Katya has great choreographies

1:47:36 > 1:47:46Gills.And Joe perfects them each week. Very difficult to say no to

1:47:46 > 1:47:53Katya! Try to go, I don't want to do that.No, you are! You are doing it!

1:47:53 > 1:47:59What is it? You are the youngest person, it is fair to say. Why does

1:47:59 > 1:48:02Strictly appeal to all generations commit yourself and the entire

1:48:02 > 1:48:09family set down to watch it?It is amazing celebrities coming in from

1:48:09 > 1:48:15different areas of TV and whatever. People who are fans followed them

1:48:15 > 1:48:19through. To think they are doing dancing, to see how well they do and

1:48:19 > 1:48:23see them progress each week is amazing. You would not think they

1:48:23 > 1:48:29would be a dancer or get so far into the final.Be honest, at the

1:48:29 > 1:48:32beginning of the series when the celebrities were announced, did you

1:48:32 > 1:48:39know everybody?I did not know everyone! I didn't, to be honest!

1:48:39 > 1:48:47You never know anybody. This is the joy of it. The joy it is the journey

1:48:47 > 1:48:51thing. We love to see, the British public, we love to see people, how

1:48:51 > 1:49:03are they going to get on. Let's say the word journey.At least you know

1:49:03 > 1:49:08half the people on Strictly.50% is not bad. That is what we enjoy the

1:49:08 > 1:49:18most. We just see how people get on. As somebody who watches it, just the

1:49:18 > 1:49:21level is ridiculous. In terms of where it started at 15 years ago and

1:49:21 > 1:49:27where it is now. Do you think that is a problem?It could become a

1:49:27 > 1:49:33problem. I think those days of Mark Ramprakash and Darren Gough winning

1:49:33 > 1:49:36the show, Belmont, because nobody with no training and no idea how to

1:49:36 > 1:49:41hold themselves in front of camera can go and chain hard and go all the

1:49:41 > 1:49:44way and win the glitterball, I don't think it will have to learn Dutch it

1:49:44 > 1:49:50will happen like that any more.It depends how much hard time people

1:49:50 > 1:49:55have and have physically able they are. It is all very well saying to

1:49:55 > 1:50:01do ten hours of training, but to be honest with you... We have jobs! It

1:50:01 > 1:50:07is hard not to do it for more than three hours and not the eight a bit.

1:50:07 > 1:50:10And then you do it again. It is difficult to commit physically to

1:50:10 > 1:50:18commit the time it takes to get that good. But all the professionals,

1:50:18 > 1:50:23last year, when Len left the show, we did a lot of looking back at old

1:50:23 > 1:50:31footage and stuff. To watch series one and two up the series 14 and 15,

1:50:31 > 1:50:36it is like a different show. Because it has evolved slowly, it has been

1:50:36 > 1:50:40wonderful, we have all done it together and followed Strictly

1:50:40 > 1:50:45evolving, the audiences, the professionals, everybody has evolved

1:50:45 > 1:50:49with the show. To go from that to now in a couple of years would have

1:50:49 > 1:50:53been a disaster for the show and it could not have coped.Let's talk

1:50:53 > 1:50:59about the potential winner, the favourite is Joe McFadden. Last

1:50:59 > 1:51:03year's winner, a good friend of mine, Ore. The year before that,

1:51:03 > 1:51:11Jamie Gillis. So a pattern of boys. I would love for Debbie to win. A

1:51:11 > 1:51:16slightly older winner. It is all about the young and fit ones with

1:51:16 > 1:51:21background and dancing and Debbie has proved she is so into the show

1:51:21 > 1:51:26from the get go, she worked hard and she was daring and she blossomed. It

1:51:26 > 1:51:30would be wonderful to see a woman, a slightly older and more mature

1:51:30 > 1:51:35woman, to win the show, because she has been incredible.She has a good

1:51:35 > 1:51:41chance with three of them, a good chance!Joe is the favourite, who do

1:51:41 > 1:51:47you think is going to win?Well, I think the winner is dance!What a

1:51:47 > 1:51:54copout!I think Joe is probably going to win it. So exciting to

1:51:54 > 1:52:06watch.I have given you time to think about it?Debbie.Debbie or

1:52:06 > 1:52:17Joe. Joe, OK!Nobody said Alex. Nobody said Alex. Back to you,

1:52:17 > 1:52:27again! Twins this year.Yes, thank you so much. Incredibly lush

1:52:27 > 1:52:30incredible. They are eight months old and they are Alex fans.What

1:52:30 > 1:52:35else are you doing?Preparing to go on tour next year and I have

1:52:35 > 1:52:42released an album as well. From the Top. Wonderful experience, wonderful

1:52:42 > 1:52:48exciting process to be involved in. And I'm going to say this, it is

1:52:48 > 1:52:51great, I am so delighted with the way it sounds, it sounds incredible

1:52:51 > 1:52:58and it is out on Christmas.What is it, singing?I tell you what it is,

1:52:58 > 1:53:02a selection of my favourite songs I have listened to over the years and

1:53:02 > 1:53:06I have danced too and I am performing it with an orchestra of

1:53:06 > 1:53:1436 so it sounds incredible. As I am doing it and singing along, singing

1:53:14 > 1:53:17the songs, I just imagined people dancing to it, which is exactly the

1:53:17 > 1:53:24feeling I wanted to get. Just in time for Christmas! Just in time for

1:53:24 > 1:53:32Christmas!And what you up to a Strictly?I feel I am still in

1:53:32 > 1:53:36Strictly because I'm constantly at rehearsals and I am producing and

1:53:36 > 1:53:41directing and performing in a show called Dance to the Music with Robin

1:53:41 > 1:53:46Windsor who was my partner for many years. We go on the road next year

1:53:46 > 1:53:50and it is a big thing to direct and produce. I am very excited. I look

1:53:50 > 1:53:55forward to dancing. With Robin, of course, and other Strictly

1:53:55 > 1:54:00professionals. That is a new venture for me so really excited about next

1:54:00 > 1:54:04year.And we are excited for you and excited about the final tomorrow

1:54:04 > 1:54:08night.Thank you. Thank you!

1:54:08 > 1:54:10Nasa has found a distant star circled by eight planets,

1:54:10 > 1:54:14equal to our own Solar System.

1:54:14 > 1:54:16It's the largest number of worlds ever discovered in a planetary

1:54:16 > 1:54:21system outside our own.

1:54:21 > 1:54:23The discovery was based on observations gathered

1:54:23 > 1:54:33by Nasa's Kepler Space Telescope, with the help from Google.

1:54:33 > 1:54:36It is said to be very significant.

1:54:36 > 1:54:38With me is Tom Kerss, astronomer at the Royal Observatory Greenwich.

1:54:38 > 1:54:40And also joining us on webcam is Suzanne Aigrain,

1:54:40 > 1:54:42an astrophysicist at Oxford University.

1:54:42 > 1:54:48Good morning. How excited are you about this news?Always excited,

1:54:48 > 1:54:52planet news is thick and fast these days. But this is quite exciting

1:54:52 > 1:54:57because not so much for the planet but the method that has been used,

1:54:57 > 1:55:03the Kepler data has been used in novel ways and they have had a long

1:55:03 > 1:55:07and successful running programme called Planet Hunters which uses the

1:55:07 > 1:55:12witness Dashwood stem of crowds underplaying the recognition of

1:55:12 > 1:55:16humans looking at the data and we have machines now thinking like

1:55:16 > 1:55:20humans. Exploring like humans. This is very promising for the future of

1:55:20 > 1:55:24discoveries.We do hear about new discoveries to do with the solar

1:55:24 > 1:55:32system and planets fairly regularly, how significant is this?This is

1:55:32 > 1:55:38touted as being the record-holder and I would say that's true. The

1:55:38 > 1:55:42record number of exoplanets, eight. There is another one with a less

1:55:42 > 1:55:48catchy name. Maybe as many nine worlds but only seven confirmed. The

1:55:48 > 1:55:52store sold a record and it remains as we are not the only solar system

1:55:52 > 1:55:58with eight planets, which is nice, and it gives us hope that planets do

1:55:58 > 1:56:03outnumber in the Galaxy stars and the upper limit is around 400

1:56:03 > 1:56:06billion stars, that is four for every human being ever born, roughly

1:56:06 > 1:56:12speaking.And in relation to others, that similarity and parallel, what

1:56:12 > 1:56:15could that mean?It means there is going to be a great more world is

1:56:15 > 1:56:18out there than we previously believed which means a great number

1:56:18 > 1:56:23more chances to find that world that may have something living on it. It

1:56:23 > 1:56:25is an age with the pace of technology and ability to discover

1:56:25 > 1:56:31new worlds, in a couple of decades, we could possibly identify if we are

1:56:31 > 1:56:35alone in our Galaxy, that is the pursuit. Discoveries like this

1:56:35 > 1:56:41remind us we can be optimistic about that.That is the ultimate, is there

1:56:41 > 1:56:46life out there? Susan, what is your response to this latest discovery?

1:56:46 > 1:56:49My take is very similar to my colleagues. I am excited almost more

1:56:49 > 1:56:54by the method than by the planet, although the planet is very

1:56:54 > 1:56:57interesting. The system itself is very interesting and it reminds us

1:56:57 > 1:57:04not only planets are very common, but systems with many planets like

1:57:04 > 1:57:09our own likely also to be fairly common. One of the astronomers in

1:57:09 > 1:57:13the discovery said they would almost be surprised if there were not more

1:57:13 > 1:57:16planets to be found in that system because we have only looked at the

1:57:16 > 1:57:23inner parts of the system. But I want to focus also on the Artificial

1:57:23 > 1:57:27Intelligence aspect of the discovery. It is not the first time

1:57:27 > 1:57:34Artificial Intelligence is used in one way or another to look at planet

1:57:34 > 1:57:39data and even at the Kepler data, but it is the first time it has been

1:57:39 > 1:57:42done in such an unsupervised way, letting machines do their job and

1:57:42 > 1:57:47trying to find the signals. And it is very early days and they have

1:57:47 > 1:57:51found something interesting which is very promising. There is a lot of

1:57:51 > 1:57:56future discoveries yet to be made by exploiting this sort of technique. I

1:57:56 > 1:58:05think also, as we have already heard, there are so many planets out

1:58:05 > 1:58:12there. The likelihood that one of them hosts live is now almost

1:58:12 > 1:58:16overwhelming, and would say. The question is just, how do we go and

1:58:16 > 1:58:20identify them?Sorry to cut you off, we have to leave it there, it is

1:58:20 > 1:58:22fascinating, it is the end of the programme.

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