0:00:04 > 0:00:06Hello.
0:00:06 > 0:00:08It's Monday, it's nine o'clock.
0:00:08 > 0:00:14I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17This morning - we'll bring you claims that sexual abuse
0:00:17 > 0:00:19and harassment is "endemic" in the music industry,
0:00:19 > 0:00:23with "dangerous men" abusing their power.
0:00:23 > 0:00:29Young women are being sexually assaulted, still, today.There are
0:00:29 > 0:00:35some very dangerous men in this business. Right at the top? Yes.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38Currently? Yes.
0:00:38 > 0:00:40That full exclusive report at about 0915 -
0:00:40 > 0:00:43and if you work in the music industry - really keen to hear
0:00:43 > 0:00:44from you this morning.
0:00:44 > 0:00:46Do get in touch with your own experience.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48Also on the programme - doctors are warning that tens
0:00:48 > 0:00:51of thousands of people may be at increased risk of dying early
0:00:51 > 0:00:56from heart attacks and strokes by misusing anabolic steroids.
0:00:56 > 0:01:01Everything that we do in life, I think, carries a risk of heart
0:01:01 > 0:01:06attack, cancer, whatever it is. Whatever it is, I will get that
0:01:06 > 0:01:11risk anyway.We will hear from those who use steroids and those who sell
0:01:11 > 0:01:15them.There are those who abuse steroids and it damages their help.
0:01:15 > 0:01:21That's their choice.-- damages their health.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23The full Newsbeat report before ten.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25And - Senior government ministers are meeting in half an hour
0:01:25 > 0:01:29or so to discuss in detail for the first time what the UK's
0:01:29 > 0:01:34future relationship with the EU should be.
0:01:34 > 0:01:35Hello...
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0:01:37 > 0:01:40It is Christmas week!
0:01:40 > 0:01:45Throughout the programme this morning we'll bring you the latest
0:01:45 > 0:01:46breaking news and developing stories.
0:01:46 > 0:01:47A little
0:01:47 > 0:01:50later we'll hear from Liam Allan - the 22-year-old student whose rape
0:01:50 > 0:01:52trial collapsed after detectives failed to disclose vital
0:01:52 > 0:01:53evidence to the defence.
0:01:53 > 0:01:56He's told this programme he wants an apology from police and the CPS.
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0:02:07 > 0:02:09Our top story today...
0:02:09 > 0:02:12Theresa May is due to meet her Brexit cabinet -
0:02:12 > 0:02:15about a dozen of her most senior ministers - to discuss for the first
0:02:15 > 0:02:18time what the UK's future relationship with the EU should be.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21Later, she is expected to tell MPs the UK wants to sign trade deals
0:02:21 > 0:02:30during what she calls an implementation period.
0:02:30 > 0:02:32And what everybody else calls a transition period.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34Norman Smith is at Westminster.
0:02:34 > 0:02:38How crucial is the meeting this morning?It is one of those big
0:02:38 > 0:02:44banana moments. It is a funny one, in a way. We've had months of them
0:02:44 > 0:02:48going on and on about Brexit but still there hasn't been a formal sit
0:02:48 > 0:02:53down with senior members of the Cabinet decided what is the future
0:02:53 > 0:02:57of Britain going to be outside of the EU, and the future trading
0:02:57 > 0:03:01relationship, what will that be with the European Union? That will happen
0:03:01 > 0:03:04today and it is the first time they've done it, in spite of months
0:03:04 > 0:03:14of debate. There is a clear difference between those like Philip
0:03:14 > 0:03:17Hammond and Amber Rudd, who think that the priority is staying close
0:03:17 > 0:03:23to the European Union and single market so we have access still to
0:03:23 > 0:03:27the single market for British industry, so we take some EU rules,
0:03:27 > 0:03:31we stay in some EU bodies and may give them money to get access to key
0:03:31 > 0:03:37parts of the British economy, like the city. Against them, the likes of
0:03:37 > 0:03:40Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, more optimistic about prospects for
0:03:40 > 0:03:44Britain if we just move away from Europe. We do not stay bound by all
0:03:44 > 0:03:51of their roles because, they say, that it you look a long way ahead,
0:03:51 > 0:03:55big trading blocs like the EU, that will not be the name of the game,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59the name of the game will be small countries, agile countries able to
0:03:59 > 0:04:03strike their own trade deals, and that is what Britain ought to be
0:04:03 > 0:04:06like. There is a clear difference about what we ought to do in terms
0:04:06 > 0:04:13of our future relationship with Europe.How likely is it the EU will
0:04:13 > 0:04:17support her plans?Here is one of the big difficulties. Not only has
0:04:17 > 0:04:25Theresa May got to get a Cabinet together on this but she's also got
0:04:25 > 0:04:27to square the EU and, overnight, we heard from the EU's chief negotiator
0:04:27 > 0:04:31Michel Barnier, he said look, if you think we are going to cut you a
0:04:31 > 0:04:35special deal? No way! There are certain options, you could be like
0:04:35 > 0:04:40Norway, not in the EU, but still part of the single market or, you
0:04:40 > 0:04:44could be like Canada, which has a free trade deal but do not think
0:04:44 > 0:04:49that there will be any special arrangement for Britain. As I say,
0:04:49 > 0:04:52she's not only got to hold her Cabinet together but push the EU
0:04:52 > 0:04:59into giving us what is called a bespoke deal.Norman, thank you.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02Now let's go over to the BBC Newsroom for a summary
0:05:02 > 0:05:04of the rest of the day's news.
0:05:04 > 0:05:05Good morning.
0:05:05 > 0:05:08Police in Beirut say they have arrested a suspect as part
0:05:08 > 0:05:10of the investigation into the murder of a British embassy worker
0:05:10 > 0:05:13whose body was found by the side of a motorway.
0:05:13 > 0:05:14Rebecca Dykes was working in the capital city
0:05:14 > 0:05:17of Beirut for the Department for International Development.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21It is thought she had been abducted and strangled after leaving a party.
0:05:21 > 0:05:24Martin Patience is in Beirut.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28It does appear that there has been a big breakthrough in this case,
0:05:28 > 0:05:32Lebanese police are telling us that they've arrested a suspect in the
0:05:32 > 0:05:36early hours of this morning. It is believed that man had been working
0:05:36 > 0:05:41as a taxi driver. Rebecca had been out on Friday night at a going away
0:05:41 > 0:05:46party for a colleague. It was in a popular bar area of the city, and it
0:05:46 > 0:05:49was sometime after midnight that she left that bar to make our way home.
0:05:49 > 0:05:58It appears that perhaps she got into a taxi and then, on Saturday, her
0:05:58 > 0:06:01body was found dumped close to a motorway on the outskirts of the
0:06:01 > 0:06:02city.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06Martin patients reporting there from the Lebanese capital.
0:06:06 > 0:06:11The increasing pressure on teenage boys and men
0:06:11 > 0:06:14in their twenties to look perfect has led to more of them
0:06:14 > 0:06:16taking anabolic steroids to achieve what they see
0:06:16 > 0:06:17as the ideal body type.
0:06:17 > 0:06:20Today, the British Cardiovascular Society is warning tens of thousands
0:06:20 > 0:06:22of people who take the drugs are putting themselves
0:06:22 > 0:06:25at risk of dying early, as Radio One Newsbeat's Dan
0:06:25 > 0:06:26Whitworth reports.
0:06:26 > 0:06:28As well as heart attacks and strokes, people who take
0:06:28 > 0:06:30anabolic steroids also risk health problems like infertility
0:06:30 > 0:06:31and mood swings.
0:06:31 > 0:06:37But those risks aren't putting users off.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39Everything that we do in life carries a risk of heart attack,
0:06:39 > 0:06:40cancer, whatever it is.
0:06:40 > 0:06:43So, whatever it is, I'm going to get those risks anyway,
0:06:43 > 0:06:46so I choose not to do certain things, and I choose this
0:06:46 > 0:06:47as my lifestyle instead.
0:06:47 > 0:06:49So, as I don't go out drinking and smoking,
0:06:49 > 0:06:50I take steroids.
0:06:50 > 0:06:54When it comes to the law, anabolic steroids are legal to use
0:06:54 > 0:07:04and legal to possess right across the UK.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06What is illegal, though, is supplying them unless you're
0:07:06 > 0:07:09a doctor, and if you're caught, you could face a prison sentence
0:07:09 > 0:07:10of up to 14 years.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12Anabolic steroids cause an imbalance of hormones,
0:07:12 > 0:07:14which can damage many different organs, but in particular the heart.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17But that doesn't stop this man, who spoke on condition of anonymity,
0:07:17 > 0:07:19from dealing them.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21There's a very broad spectrum of people that use steroids.
0:07:21 > 0:07:24You're ranging from young guys at 18-year-olds,
0:07:24 > 0:07:2719, 20, just starting out, and they're training and looking
0:07:27 > 0:07:30to bulk up for maybe a summer holiday, or just to look good for...
0:07:30 > 0:07:31For a summer holiday?
0:07:31 > 0:07:34For a summer holiday, or they just want to attract the girls.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37So these are the guys that you have to be more informative when you talk
0:07:37 > 0:07:40to them, make them more aware of the risks and the dangers.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43The group which advises government on drug misuse is in the middle
0:07:43 > 0:07:46of a big review of anabolic steroids, and due to report
0:07:46 > 0:07:49its findings next year.
0:07:49 > 0:07:53Dan Whitworth, BBC News, Bristol.
0:07:53 > 0:07:58This programme has been told that sexual abuse and harassment in the
0:07:58 > 0:08:03music industry are "Endemic".
0:08:03 > 0:08:05Four women have spoken about the serious assaults and rape
0:08:05 > 0:08:08they suffered at the hands of powerful men in the industry.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10One singer has spoken about being groomed by her manager
0:08:10 > 0:08:12at one of the biggest music companies in the UK
0:08:12 > 0:08:14when she was just 15 years old.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17The family of a taxi driver who was among six people killed
0:08:17 > 0:08:19in a road accident in Birmingham yesterday, have described him
0:08:19 > 0:08:25as "happy" and "loving".
0:08:25 > 0:08:26Imtiaz Mohammed and his two passengers died,
0:08:26 > 0:08:28alongside three men in another car.
0:08:28 > 0:08:29Crash investigators are trying to piece together
0:08:29 > 0:08:30what caused the pile-up.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32Myanmar's leaders could face genocide charges, according
0:08:32 > 0:08:35to the UN's human rights chief.
0:08:35 > 0:08:39He's told the BBC that the organised and planned nature of
0:08:39 > 0:08:41the persecution of the Rohingya ethnic group in Myanmar means
0:08:41 > 0:08:44genocide could not be ruled out.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47The plight of hundreds of thousands of Rohingya people is said to be
0:08:47 > 0:08:56the world's fastest growing refugee crisis.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58There's been major disruption at the world's busiest airport
0:08:58 > 0:09:01in Atlanta in the United States, as a result of a power cut.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03Some passengers were left in darkened terminals at Atlanta's
0:09:03 > 0:09:04Hartsfield-Jackson airport.
0:09:04 > 0:09:06More than 1000 flights have been cancelled and many
0:09:06 > 0:09:09are being diverted elsewhere.
0:09:09 > 0:09:11The airport typically handles more than 250,000 passengers
0:09:11 > 0:09:15and almost 2,500 flights every day.
0:09:15 > 0:09:17A new plan for tackling plastic waste has been outlined
0:09:17 > 0:09:20by the Environment Secretary Michael Gove.
0:09:20 > 0:09:23He says he wants to reduce the amount of plastics used
0:09:23 > 0:09:25in the UK and to make sure more is recycled.
0:09:25 > 0:09:28Mr Gove says he's been moved to act faster after seeing
0:09:28 > 0:09:30David Attenborough's Blue Planet series which highlighted the harm
0:09:30 > 0:09:36to marine life from plastic litter.
0:09:36 > 0:09:40The four time Olympic champion, Sir Mo Farah, has won this year's
0:09:40 > 0:09:43BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46Motorcyclist Jonathan Rea was second, and paralympic sprinter,
0:09:46 > 0:09:48Jonnie Peacock, was third.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53The pre-award favourite, heavyweight world champ
0:09:53 > 0:09:55Anthony Joshua, finished in fourth place.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57But the result wasn't the only unexpected event.
0:09:57 > 0:09:59When Sir Mo's shock victory was announced, the link
0:09:59 > 0:10:02to his location in London went down.
0:10:02 > 0:10:08Eventually the line was established, this is what he had to say.
0:10:08 > 0:10:11As an athlete, what I've achieved has been incredible over the years.
0:10:11 > 0:10:16For all of the youngsters and to the people out there, you can work hard
0:10:16 > 0:10:20and you can achieve your dreams. Anything is possible in life. If you
0:10:20 > 0:10:25believe in it, work at it, and keep grafting, anything is possible. What
0:10:25 > 0:10:30an amazing night it is and I wish I was there but unfortunately I cannot
0:10:30 > 0:10:37be there. The kids haven't been as well, but it is all exciting for us.
0:10:37 > 0:10:45I just cannot believe that I have won!
0:10:45 > 0:10:49Congratulations to Sir Mo Farah.
0:10:49 > 0:10:51Historic England has published a list of the the most unusual
0:10:51 > 0:10:54structures and sites given protected listed status in 2017.
0:10:54 > 0:10:55The National Heritage List recognises places of
0:10:55 > 0:10:57special architectural or historic importance.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59Historic England says the places gaining the status
0:10:59 > 0:11:02are increasingly quirky.
0:11:02 > 0:11:06That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.
0:11:06 > 0:11:14Thank you. In a fume and it's time we have a film that talks about the
0:11:14 > 0:11:17grotesque level of sexual abuse and harassment within the music
0:11:17 > 0:11:24industry. We will hear claims that one teenage singer-songwriter was
0:11:24 > 0:11:27ruined by her manager and claims that there are men at the top of the
0:11:27 > 0:11:33music sector in serious positions of power who, according to some women,
0:11:33 > 0:11:36should be in jail. That's at 9:15am.
0:11:36 > 0:11:40Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -
0:11:40 > 0:11:43use the hashtag Victoria live and if you text, you will be charged
0:11:43 > 0:11:47at the standard network rate.
0:11:47 > 0:11:53Let's get some sport with Holly Hamilton.
0:11:53 > 0:11:58Sadly, it was only a matter of time before Australia regain the Ashes?
0:11:58 > 0:12:02Yes, I feel like I've brought bad news this morning! They say that bad
0:12:02 > 0:12:06things happen in threes, that was the case for England this time
0:12:06 > 0:12:11around, it was all over by one innings and 41 runs, and a dominant
0:12:11 > 0:12:17scoreline too. To think that England had been 368-4, it feels like they
0:12:17 > 0:12:29let an opportunity slip. They will be kicking themselves this morning.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32And we did have a little bit of hope early this morning when a three-hour
0:12:32 > 0:12:34delay caused by some leaking covers and damp patches on the pitch
0:12:34 > 0:12:36provided some respite for England. But Australia's bowlers - led
0:12:36 > 0:12:39superbly by Josh Hazlewood - quite simply blew England's tail away.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41Five wickets for Hazlewood, two for Pat Cummins, two for Nathan Lyon,
0:12:41 > 0:12:52one for Mitch Starc.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01An innings built on a magnificent 239 by the captain, and 188 from
0:13:01 > 0:13:03Mitch Marsh. A proper team performance to go 3-0 up by
0:13:03 > 0:13:05Australia. Let's hear from the captains. It is bitterly
0:13:05 > 0:13:07disappointing.We have not been blown away. We have not been
0:13:07 > 0:13:11completely outplayed. We have put up some really good performances, but
0:13:11 > 0:13:17not good enough, as simple as that. In all three games, we have matched
0:13:17 > 0:13:22and outplayed Australia, and those key moments within the game, it's a
0:13:22 > 0:13:26credit to those guys. That aside, they have really grasped those and
0:13:26 > 0:13:29driven it home. We have to learn from that and make sure that in
0:13:29 > 0:13:35these last two games, that they do that.It has been an amazing couple
0:13:35 > 0:13:41of weeks. I have really enjoyed every moment of it. We have put in
0:13:41 > 0:13:47so much hard work, the preparation and everything that has come with
0:13:47 > 0:13:51the series, it has been huge and to know that everything has worked out,
0:13:51 > 0:13:55we've been able to get the urn back. All of those emotions, they came out
0:13:55 > 0:14:06at once. I am so pleased and happy for the group. For everyone, the
0:14:06 > 0:14:12support staff and everyone who has put in the work, and everything, to
0:14:12 > 0:14:15get that success we've had over the last couple of weeks.You can see
0:14:15 > 0:14:20the difference in their faces in those interviews. Already, some big
0:14:20 > 0:14:24changes been discussed looking ahead but this will be a very hard pill
0:14:24 > 0:14:28for England to swallow now. STUDIO: It's interesting to hear that Giroud
0:14:28 > 0:14:32didn't think that England were outplayed by Australia are all the
0:14:32 > 0:14:35time. If you had to pinpoint areas where it went wrong for England,
0:14:35 > 0:14:42what would you say?To be honest, throughout the series, England have
0:14:42 > 0:14:47outplayed in most departments, there has been a feeling that maybe there
0:14:47 > 0:14:52was a gap in quality? More aggression and more attack, and they
0:14:52 > 0:14:56are quite a young side. While it felt like it was the senior core of
0:14:56 > 0:15:01the England side who quite simply did not show up, like Moeen Ali, he
0:15:01 > 0:15:04struggled with the bat. Stuart Broad, he struggled with rhythm
0:15:04 > 0:15:12throughout. And then in the absence of the all-rounder Ben Stokes. Let's
0:15:12 > 0:15:15hear from the England coach, Trevor Bayliss.It has changed the dynamics
0:15:15 > 0:15:20of our team, I certainly think that the Australian team have been too
0:15:20 > 0:15:24strong for us. Whether he is here or not, the simple fact is that he
0:15:24 > 0:15:31wasn't. The guys here, in the team, they took that on board very early.
0:15:31 > 0:15:36They haven't been whingeing about not being here, they are getting on
0:15:36 > 0:15:43without him. It certainly has been a change to the setup we've had over
0:15:43 > 0:15:49the last couple of years.
0:15:49 > 0:15:54This is England's eighth defeat in eight tests in Australia and their
0:15:54 > 0:15:56seventh successive away defeat. An early Christmas present for
0:15:56 > 0:16:02Australia. England will have to come back strong in Melbourne and Sydney
0:16:02 > 0:16:08to avoid yet another whitewash.It is looking that way, sadly,
0:16:08 > 0:16:11annoyingly friends and fans. Thank you. Good morning.
0:16:11 > 0:16:16Sexual abuse and harassment in the music industry are "endemic".
0:16:16 > 0:16:19That's what this programme has been told, while investigating the issue.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21Over the past month we've spoken to women who have been serious
0:16:21 > 0:16:25sexually assaulted in the industry, and who have been told to stay quiet
0:16:25 > 0:16:26about the abuse they've suffered.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29We've heard that there are dangerous men at the top of the industry
0:16:29 > 0:16:31who abuse their power - and that often inappropriate
0:16:31 > 0:16:35behavior goes unchallenged.
0:16:35 > 0:16:42Our reporter Jean Mackenzie, who's been looking at this, is here now.
0:16:42 > 0:16:47What have you learned? I have been speaking to women across the
0:16:47 > 0:16:50industry over the past month. It became quite clear quickly that
0:16:50 > 0:16:55there is a dark side to this industry. One woman said it has a
0:16:55 > 0:17:01dark underbelly. I had heard about a range of behaviour, from general
0:17:01 > 0:17:05cultural misogyny that exists that can make it difficult for women to
0:17:05 > 0:17:10work in, to more sinister behaviour, things like serious harassment,
0:17:10 > 0:17:13assault, predatory behaviour. I have spoken to women who have been
0:17:13 > 0:17:18seriously sexually assaulted at work. By people they work with. But
0:17:18 > 0:17:22I have also learned that there is a real feeling in this industry that
0:17:22 > 0:17:25you have to be sexually available to get ahead. Women being expected to
0:17:25 > 0:17:31sleep with people or do certain things to get opportunities. And if
0:17:31 > 0:17:34they are not willing to do those things, those opportunities can go
0:17:34 > 0:17:39away. It is not just artists and musicians. We are also talking about
0:17:39 > 0:17:43people who work for a music companies. It is not just women. It
0:17:43 > 0:17:47is men as well who are vulnerable to being exploited. There really is a
0:17:47 > 0:17:51sense that everyone in this industry has some sort of story to tell.Why
0:17:51 > 0:17:58does the alleged abuse happen?This is an industry in which there are
0:17:58 > 0:18:02huge imbalances of power. You have people at the top who will
0:18:02 > 0:18:06absolutely -- wheeled absolutely enormous power, who all people's
0:18:06 > 0:18:10hopes and dreams in their hands, who can make and break careers. At the
0:18:10 > 0:18:14bottom we have people trying to break into this industry, which is
0:18:14 > 0:18:19fun, competitive and exciting. People have said, where you -- when
0:18:19 > 0:18:23you get that power dynamic you create an environment where abuse
0:18:23 > 0:18:26can happen. Not only that, you create an environment where the
0:18:26 > 0:18:30perpetrators can get away with it. One of the things I have been so
0:18:30 > 0:18:34struck by in doing this is the real culture of silence that exists.
0:18:34 > 0:18:39People who are absolutely terrified to talk about this. And that is not
0:18:39 > 0:18:44just terrified to share their own experiences. People don't even want
0:18:44 > 0:18:47to say publicly that this is an industry with a problem. There is a
0:18:47 > 0:18:52real feeling that if you speak out, you lose your job. You may never
0:18:52 > 0:18:55work in the industry again because it is a small industry. It is
0:18:55 > 0:19:01entirely based on your reputation, who you know. One woman said to me,
0:19:01 > 0:19:04if you lose your reputation in this industry, you have lost everything.
0:19:04 > 0:19:08I have spoken to women who will never share their stories, who will
0:19:08 > 0:19:12never mention to anybody what has happened to them. But we did find
0:19:12 > 0:19:17for women who had been prepared to speak out. Some of them waved their
0:19:17 > 0:19:21anonymity to tell their stories for the first time. In the film we are
0:19:21 > 0:19:24about to watch, there are some sexually explicit references. There
0:19:24 > 0:19:28are things you may find upsetting and you may not want your children
0:19:28 > 0:19:32to see. It will last for about 30 minutes.
0:19:32 > 0:19:35-- 13.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37When I first started working in the music industry,
0:19:37 > 0:19:40I was 21 years old, and I had just moved to London from
0:19:40 > 0:19:41Leeds.
0:19:41 > 0:19:45I was working in the A and R department in a major music company.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48It was very sociable, very fun, there was a lot of alcohol.
0:19:48 > 0:19:50I went to gigs every night, it was like my
0:19:50 > 0:19:52dream come true job.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55Being signed at 16, I was just fresh out of school,
0:19:55 > 0:19:58so I didn't really have a lot of experience in the music industry,
0:19:58 > 0:20:01and it was sort of just like a whirlwind.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04I remember the day that I got my GCSE results, was like the
0:20:04 > 0:20:07same day as I was going off to meetings and, like, meeting big
0:20:07 > 0:20:11label people up in London.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16So, I've always been making music and writing
0:20:16 > 0:20:20songs since very young, and when I was about 13,
0:20:20 > 0:20:25I started putting them online.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28When I was 15, somebody e-mailed me, from one of the really
0:20:28 > 0:20:32big music companies in the UK.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34He said that he wanted to help me, he
0:20:34 > 0:20:43wanted to work with me.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45I got a job in a recording studio making
0:20:45 > 0:20:47the tea And it was the most fantastic job
0:20:47 > 0:20:48ever, I loved it.
0:20:48 > 0:20:50I worked really, really hard.
0:20:50 > 0:20:52I worked with amazing people who were just, all men who
0:20:52 > 0:20:55just looked after me and treated me like a younger sister.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58I had a great time there for a couple of years.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00But, I was, sort of, a bit more ambitious than that.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03I wanted to run EMI Records worldwide one day.
0:21:03 > 0:21:08And, lo and behold, I got offered an incredible job abroad.
0:21:08 > 0:21:13Did you have negative experiences?
0:21:13 > 0:21:15Can you talk me through one of them?
0:21:15 > 0:21:18When I was about 23 years old, I went to a gig
0:21:18 > 0:21:26like I did every night.
0:21:26 > 0:21:28I went with a few friends from work.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32We met the manager of a couple of artists that we were trying to sign.
0:21:32 > 0:21:37He started plying me with drinks, and buying me shots.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40We ended up drinking quite a lot and then going back to mine
0:21:40 > 0:21:43to continue the night.
0:21:43 > 0:21:50He fell asleep on the sofa and I went to bed.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53I woke up in the middle of the night, and he had
0:21:53 > 0:21:54got into bed with me.
0:21:54 > 0:21:59And his fingers were inside me.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01He had lit all the candles in my room.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04He acted like it wasn't a big deal, but he did stop.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07But, I didn't know how long he had been doing it
0:22:07 > 0:22:17before I woke up.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21He went back to sleep on the sofa and in the morning he was gone.
0:22:21 > 0:22:23Added you feel when you woke up and knew what was
0:22:23 > 0:22:24happening?
0:22:24 > 0:22:26It must have been hugely traumatic.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29It was one of the most horrible experiences of my life.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32I felt truly violated, so I went to work, and a very quietly
0:22:32 > 0:22:33told people.
0:22:33 > 0:22:35I was encouraged to keep quiet on the matter, because it
0:22:35 > 0:22:37would hurt our chances of signing his artist.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40He actually got away with assault.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42By the age of 16, Amy had started working with the manager
0:22:42 > 0:22:44of one of the UK's largest music companies.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47She quickly became a successful artist.
0:22:47 > 0:22:55We have changed her name to protect her identity.
0:22:55 > 0:22:58For the first few years when we work together,
0:22:58 > 0:22:59were actually really good.
0:22:59 > 0:23:01My music was getting attention from labels, for the first time.
0:23:01 > 0:23:04We had chart success with my first videos.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07And we were quite a good team, until everything went wrong.
0:23:07 > 0:23:12What went wrong?
0:23:12 > 0:23:17Well, he told me that he was in love with me, and
0:23:17 > 0:23:19that if I didn't agree to be his girlfriend,
0:23:19 > 0:23:21then he would would ruin my career.
0:23:21 > 0:23:24I was 17 at this point.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27He was quite a few years older than me,
0:23:27 > 0:23:30so I went along with it, and
0:23:30 > 0:23:35over the next two years, he continued to blackmail me and
0:23:35 > 0:23:36threaten me to be in a relationship.
0:23:36 > 0:23:41For Chloe, success also came at a young age.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44By 16, she had been signed to a major record label,
0:23:44 > 0:23:47and soon after was nominated for a Brit award.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49So, there was a guy that I was working with within the
0:23:49 > 0:23:52industry.
0:23:52 > 0:24:02We were working quite closely together, and I was a teenager.
0:24:02 > 0:24:05Slowly, as time went on, he would sort of encourage me into
0:24:05 > 0:24:07doing things that I had never really done before.
0:24:07 > 0:24:15Drugs, I had no experience in whatsoever.
0:24:15 > 0:24:17There were times when he would sort of drop
0:24:17 > 0:24:22me off at my hotel, and then he would text me and say, why didn't
0:24:22 > 0:24:24And I would be like, God, am I meant to
0:24:24 > 0:24:33invite this person in that I'm working with?
0:24:33 > 0:24:35And then I would sort of feel like, almost pressured to
0:24:35 > 0:24:38flirt back with him, all too sort of not make it seem weird.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40Because I didn't want to disappoint this guy
0:24:40 > 0:24:42who I thought held my career in his hands.
0:24:42 > 0:24:45He started sending me texts, one night, completely out of
0:24:45 > 0:24:46the blue.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49Telling me that he was madly in love with me, that if he wasn't
0:24:49 > 0:24:52working with me, he would be totally cracking onto me.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57I was 18, I remember one night he grabbed my bum and said something
0:24:57 > 0:25:00along the lines of, I feel that we would have a really
0:25:00 > 0:25:02good time in the sack. And, I was a teenager.
0:25:02 > 0:25:03I was off my face.
0:25:03 > 0:25:06I haven't come forward and spoken about it, because I know
0:25:06 > 0:25:09that people would have said, you were off your face, you know.
0:25:09 > 0:25:10You are a flirt.
0:25:10 > 0:25:11Or whatever it is.
0:25:11 > 0:25:13And it did make me feel very comfortable
0:25:13 > 0:25:15and sort of ashamed, because I would feel like,
0:25:15 > 0:25:17am I leading this guy on?
0:25:17 > 0:25:18Am I letting this happen?
0:25:18 > 0:25:21Am I meant to be letting it happen?
0:25:21 > 0:25:25So, what's did your relationship look like?
0:25:25 > 0:25:29Being in the relationship was pretty horrible because I had to
0:25:29 > 0:25:33continuously act as though the feelings
0:25:33 > 0:25:36were mutual, because, if you saw any signs that they weren't,
0:25:36 > 0:25:41then he would get very angry.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43He made a list of all the things that I
0:25:43 > 0:25:46was and wasn't allowed to do.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49And, it had things like showing him more
0:25:49 > 0:25:55affection, talking to my friends and family less, and making sure
0:25:55 > 0:25:58that he was the person I talked to be most in my life.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02He convinced me that he was the only reason I was having any success.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04And that if I told anybody that success would go away.
0:26:04 > 0:26:07And no one would want to work with me
0:26:07 > 0:26:11without him in the picture.
0:26:11 > 0:26:14In her 20s, Michelle got her break, and
0:26:14 > 0:26:18landed a job abroad, working for a big music company.
0:26:18 > 0:26:20But, when she arrived, she was told her work
0:26:20 > 0:26:24permit had not come through, and she had to stay With an older
0:26:24 > 0:26:26more senior colleague.
0:26:26 > 0:26:32I'd only been there a few days when small things happened.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35He would walk into my room with no clothes on.
0:26:35 > 0:26:37And then, one night, he came into the room and
0:26:37 > 0:26:40said that he wanted to sleep with me.
0:26:40 > 0:26:44I mean, I was a young girl, and I really didn't know how to handle
0:26:44 > 0:26:44Them
0:26:44 > 0:26:48this kind of thing, because I had never come across this before.
0:26:48 > 0:26:52He would masturbate in front of me.
0:26:52 > 0:26:54He would masturbate on me.
0:26:54 > 0:26:58And say, I know you really like it.
0:26:58 > 0:27:00You must have been terrified.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03Oh, I felt ashamed, actually.
0:27:03 > 0:27:09I felt really ashamed.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12I felt like a sex slave, actually.
0:27:12 > 0:27:17That's the best way to describe it.
0:27:17 > 0:27:22But, I found out, actually who the immigration people
0:27:22 > 0:27:24were that I needed to speak to, and I rang
0:27:24 > 0:27:26them up, and they said that
0:27:26 > 0:27:29they had my immigration papers ready for several months.
0:27:29 > 0:27:31And, I got myself an apartment, and I continued
0:27:31 > 0:27:33working at the company for several months.
0:27:33 > 0:27:38One day, I was with a girl in the office, and we were told,
0:27:38 > 0:27:41could we go and see him after work?
0:27:41 > 0:27:45So, we went up to his office, and then he turned around to us both,
0:27:45 > 0:27:47took out his penis, and said, "I want to
0:27:47 > 0:27:51have a threesome with you. Come on girls, let's do it."
0:27:51 > 0:27:53We went to a lawyer, and we were categorically
0:27:53 > 0:27:58told that he had committed a serious crime.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00But, the lawyer said, if you report this,
0:28:00 > 0:28:06you will never work in the industry again.
0:28:06 > 0:28:09So, we went for a coffee, we handed in our notice, and
0:28:09 > 0:28:12never went back to the office again.
0:28:12 > 0:28:14What happened to this man?
0:28:14 > 0:28:17Where is he in the industry now?
0:28:17 > 0:28:20He is still in it, and I do know for a fact that he has
0:28:20 > 0:28:24had other allegations against him.
0:28:24 > 0:28:28Being a musician is all that I ever wanted.
0:28:28 > 0:28:30For my whole life. And it was finally happening.
0:28:30 > 0:28:32It should have been the best time in my life,
0:28:32 > 0:28:35but it was actually the worst time of my life.
0:28:35 > 0:28:40By now, Amy says her manager had started to sexually assault her.
0:28:40 > 0:28:44I didn't want to survive any more, because it was just a horrible life.
0:28:44 > 0:28:49I thought, I'm going to get a nine to five job, and
0:28:49 > 0:28:55I'll be banned from the music industry.
0:28:55 > 0:28:58But, I'd rather be banished from doing what I love, than have to
0:28:58 > 0:29:00spend any more time with this man.
0:29:00 > 0:29:02Looking back, do you think that he groomed to?
0:29:02 > 0:29:04Yes, I do think he groomed me.
0:29:04 > 0:29:07I was 15 when we met, and he was looking online for a girl
0:29:07 > 0:29:08to manage.
0:29:08 > 0:29:11It does worry me that he is still working, and that this
0:29:11 > 0:29:12might happen to somebody else.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15From afar, I check up on him to make sure
0:29:15 > 0:29:19that he is not managing other young girls.
0:29:19 > 0:29:28And, at the moment he isn't.
0:29:28 > 0:29:32Jasmine put out a call asking women to share their experiences of sexual
0:29:32 > 0:29:37misconduct in the music industry.I expected a stories of sexual
0:29:37 > 0:29:42harassment. He wouldn't stop looking at my boots or I got on wanted
0:29:42 > 0:29:46compliments from him all the time. But what I have actually received a
0:29:46 > 0:29:52stories of rape, insisting on receiving bludgeons, seriously
0:29:52 > 0:29:54assaulting women, chasing them down the street, raping them in
0:29:54 > 0:30:04apartments.I thought, I'm going to do this. It was a big thing for me
0:30:04 > 0:30:09to do. And then I woke up in the morning and my Facebook feed was
0:30:09 > 0:30:12full of almost every other woman I know in the music industry also
0:30:12 > 0:30:18saying, mean to -- me, too.How widespread you think this sort of
0:30:18 > 0:30:23abuses?Probably more than we will ever know because people like myself
0:30:23 > 0:30:28are always going to be too scared to come forward. And I think that's
0:30:28 > 0:30:33what we need to change as an industry and as a society.Sexual
0:30:33 > 0:30:37assault and abuse in the music industry is endemic. I don't have a
0:30:37 > 0:30:40single peer in the music industry who has never been sexually harassed
0:30:40 > 0:30:46or assaulted.I know girls who have been raped. And it's always a man in
0:30:46 > 0:30:53power and a girl on the rise who needs as much support as possible,
0:30:53 > 0:30:58whose career hasn't started yet and who maybe this is her first big
0:30:58 > 0:31:05shot. I know that I'm very lucky to have the experiences that I have
0:31:05 > 0:31:11had, they haven't gone any further. That sounds mad.What do you mean?
0:31:11 > 0:31:19To say you are lucky.Yeah. It's grossed out what I -- that I think
0:31:19 > 0:31:23what happened to me is an easy ride. It is sick that I think what's
0:31:23 > 0:31:28happened to me is one of the good stories. It should be nothing at
0:31:28 > 0:31:34all.Michelle has gone on to a successful career in music and is
0:31:34 > 0:31:39now working in the film industry.
0:31:39 > 0:31:43Why have you decided to finally speak about what has happened to
0:31:43 > 0:31:48you?I never wanted to happen to anyone again. I thought I was a
0:31:48 > 0:31:52hangover of the 1980s, 1990s. I thought that sort of behaviour was
0:31:52 > 0:31:56no longer in the business but it is clear that that behaviour is still
0:31:56 > 0:32:01going on. Young women are being sexually assaulted still today.
0:32:01 > 0:32:05There are some very dangerous men in this business.Right at the top?
0:32:05 > 0:32:12Yes.Currently?Yes, I have no doubt that there are people working in the
0:32:12 > 0:32:17music industry today who should not be working in the music industry. I
0:32:17 > 0:32:19have no doubt that there are people working in the music industry today
0:32:19 > 0:32:23who should be in prison. I have absolutely no doubt that they think
0:32:23 > 0:32:29that they are safe. That they think that they are untouchable. Maybe
0:32:29 > 0:32:32some of the horrific things they did were a long time ago. They have
0:32:32 > 0:32:36probably forgotten about them but I can assure you that their victims
0:32:36 > 0:32:41have not.A lot of people have come to me and said, don't stick your
0:32:41 > 0:32:44neck out on this. This could affect your chances of getting work in
0:32:44 > 0:32:51future. But if this is the hill I die on, so be it. I am angry. Things
0:32:51 > 0:32:57need to change.
0:32:57 > 0:33:00UK Music, which represents the industry told us "Any form
0:33:00 > 0:33:03or abuse or harassment in the music industry or any other workplace
0:33:03 > 0:33:07or section of society should never be tolerated."
0:33:07 > 0:33:10More reaction to this to come after ten.
0:33:10 > 0:33:12If you work in the music
0:33:12 > 0:33:14industry do get in touch and share your stories
0:33:14 > 0:33:16with us this morning.
0:33:16 > 0:33:20You can do that anonymously, of course.
0:33:20 > 0:33:21Still to come.
0:33:21 > 0:33:23As senior Government Ministers meet to discuss what the UK's future
0:33:23 > 0:33:27relationship with the EU should be - we'll ask what reception Theresa May
0:33:27 > 0:33:29will get with her cabinet still split on the issue.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32And with doctors warning about the increased risk of people
0:33:32 > 0:33:34dying early from heart attacks and strokes by misusing
0:33:34 > 0:33:35anabolic steroids,
0:33:35 > 0:33:41we have a Newsbeat report following one user.
0:33:41 > 0:33:47Time for the latest news with Annita.
0:33:47 > 0:33:50The headlines on BBC News this morning:
0:33:50 > 0:33:53Theresa May is due to meet her Brexit cabinet today to discuss
0:33:53 > 0:33:55for the first time what the UK's future relationship
0:33:55 > 0:33:56with the EU should be.
0:33:56 > 0:33:59The PM will later tell MPs the UK wants to sign trade deals
0:33:59 > 0:34:01during a transition period.
0:34:01 > 0:34:04EU leaders have agreed talks can move on, including
0:34:04 > 0:34:07to discuss a transition deal for a post-Brexit period.
0:34:07 > 0:34:09Labour has raised concerns that trade may not be
0:34:09 > 0:34:14discussed for months.
0:34:14 > 0:34:16Police in Beirut say they have arrested a suspect as part
0:34:16 > 0:34:19of the investigation into the murder of a British embassy worker
0:34:19 > 0:34:24whose body was found by the side of a motorway.
0:34:24 > 0:34:26Rebecca Dykes was working in the capital city
0:34:26 > 0:34:28of Beirut for the Department for International Development.
0:34:28 > 0:34:34It is thought she had been abducted and strangled after leaving a party.
0:34:34 > 0:34:38Tens of thousands of people may be at increased risk of dying early
0:34:38 > 0:34:40from heart attacks and strokes by misusing anabolic steroids,
0:34:40 > 0:34:41according to doctors.
0:34:41 > 0:34:43The British Cardiovascular Society gave the warning amid concern
0:34:43 > 0:34:45steroids are now being taken by hundreds of thousands of people.
0:34:45 > 0:34:48Public health experts say men in their teens and 20s
0:34:48 > 0:34:54are behind the rise.
0:34:54 > 0:34:56This programme has been told that sexual abuse and harassment
0:34:56 > 0:34:58in the music industry are "endemic".
0:34:58 > 0:35:01Four women have spoken about the serious assaults and rape
0:35:01 > 0:35:06they suffered at the hands of powerful men in the industry.
0:35:06 > 0:35:08One singer has spoken about being groomed by her manager
0:35:08 > 0:35:11at one of the biggest music companies in the UK
0:35:11 > 0:35:15when she was just 15 years old.
0:35:15 > 0:35:18The four time Olympic champion, Sir Mo Farah, has won this year's
0:35:18 > 0:35:19BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
0:35:19 > 0:35:21Motorcyclist Jonathan Rea was second, and paralympic sprinter,
0:35:21 > 0:35:22Jonnie Peacock, was third.
0:35:22 > 0:35:24The pre-award favourite, heavyweight world champ
0:35:24 > 0:35:25Anthony Joshua finished in fourth place.
0:35:25 > 0:35:27But the result wasn't the only unexpected event.
0:35:27 > 0:35:33When Sir Mo's victory was announced, the link to his location
0:35:33 > 0:35:35in London went down.
0:35:35 > 0:35:42Eventually the line was established.
0:35:42 > 0:35:47That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50Here's some sport now with Holly Hamilton.
0:35:50 > 0:35:52good morning.
0:35:52 > 0:35:54Coming up in sport - Australia crush England in the third
0:35:54 > 0:35:57Test at the Waca to wrap up the Ashes Series 3-0.
0:35:57 > 0:36:00England needed to bat throughout the final day of the third Test
0:36:00 > 0:36:03in Perth to force a draw - and keep the series alive.
0:36:03 > 0:36:05But they lost the game by an innings and 41 runs.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers says their 69-game unbeaten domestic
0:36:09 > 0:36:12run may never be surpassed by another team after his side
0:36:12 > 0:36:18were thrashed 4-0 at Hearts.
0:36:18 > 0:36:20Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho says his side
0:36:20 > 0:36:23will "fight until the last match" after they moved back to within 11
0:36:23 > 0:36:26points of Premier League leaders Manchester City by beating West Brom
0:36:26 > 0:36:292-1.
0:36:29 > 0:36:33And European Champions Saracens look like they'll now need
0:36:33 > 0:36:37to try to reach the quarterfinals as one of three best Pool runners-up
0:36:37 > 0:36:44after losing 24-21 to group leaders Clemont Auvergne in France.
0:36:44 > 0:36:48More on all of those stories and reaction to the Ashes result coming
0:36:48 > 0:36:54up at ten o'clock. STUDIO: Holly, thank you.
0:36:54 > 0:36:56Theresa May is meeting her Brexit cabinet -
0:36:56 > 0:36:59about a dozen of her most senior ministers - right now,
0:36:59 > 0:37:02to discuss for the first time what the UK's future relationship
0:37:02 > 0:37:03with the EU should be.
0:37:03 > 0:37:06What kind of reception will she get from a cabinet which appears
0:37:06 > 0:37:07to contain some splits on the issue?
0:37:07 > 0:37:09That is a slight understatement!
0:37:09 > 0:37:11Let's talk to Anushka Asthana, the joint political
0:37:11 > 0:37:12editor of The Guardian.
0:37:12 > 0:37:14Hugh Bennett is Deputy Editor at BrexitCentral and a veteran
0:37:14 > 0:37:19of the Vote Leave campaign.
0:37:19 > 0:37:21Dr Simon Usherwood is a politics lecturer and deputy director of UK
0:37:21 > 0:37:24in a Changing Europe, a group of academics who do
0:37:24 > 0:37:29independent analysis of the UK's relationship with the EU.
0:37:29 > 0:37:34So, she has to get her cabinet to agree to a united position, how
0:37:34 > 0:37:38tricky is that going to be?I do not think she will find it hard to get
0:37:38 > 0:37:43them to a united position on what their opening negotiation position
0:37:43 > 0:37:49should be on the final trading outcome. Basically, most of the
0:37:49 > 0:37:56Cabinet will swing behind the Canada plus plus plus agreement he called
0:37:56 > 0:37:59it, an agreement with other services added in. They agreed that is where
0:37:59 > 0:38:04they should be aiming. There are varied opinions on how realistic
0:38:04 > 0:38:07that is and where we will land at the end but there is a sticking
0:38:07 > 0:38:11point over the question of transition. Theresa May and Philip
0:38:11 > 0:38:14Hammond have basically put out the argument that things will stay the
0:38:14 > 0:38:20same. After March 2019, things will ultimately stay the same, or we will
0:38:20 > 0:38:24lose our seat. Michael Gove definitely does not agree, he thinks
0:38:24 > 0:38:28there are particular things that will come out, like the fisheries
0:38:28 > 0:38:33policy, during transition. But a sticking point.And you mean the
0:38:33 > 0:38:37same rules and regulations that we, as a member, followed now. And also
0:38:37 > 0:38:42freedom of freedom of movement of people?They talk about having the
0:38:42 > 0:38:45same level of market access that we've got now. How will you achieve
0:38:45 > 0:38:50that? By following EU rules. There will be a change in the registration
0:38:50 > 0:38:54system that they will not ultimately be bringing in their new immigration
0:38:54 > 0:39:01system until transition.And you probably read Boris Johnson's
0:39:01 > 0:39:03interview yesterday, Hugh, he said that we need to do something new and
0:39:03 > 0:39:07ambitious that leaves zero tariffs and frictionless trade but still
0:39:07 > 0:39:10gives important freedom to decide our own regulatory framework and
0:39:10 > 0:39:17laws. Can we stay aligned with some bits of the EU, and still strike
0:39:17 > 0:39:23free trade deals with other countries?It depends on the terms
0:39:23 > 0:39:27of the deal that we agree. The thing the UK has to be careful of is not
0:39:27 > 0:39:32getting locked into legally binding treaties, which forces alignment on
0:39:32 > 0:39:36issues. Of course, we will not diverged dramatically overnight from
0:39:36 > 0:39:39the EU regulations, there are some areas where the government, as
0:39:39 > 0:39:44Theresa May said in her Florence Beach, there are some areas where a
0:39:44 > 0:39:47higher degree of alignment is better but other areas where it is more in
0:39:47 > 0:39:53our interest to divert but the key is not getting locked in because we
0:39:53 > 0:39:55do get locked in with some of these things, particularly things like
0:39:55 > 0:39:59agriculture which is a big part of EU law, but also a big part of trade
0:39:59 > 0:40:04deals done around the world. If we are bound to follow EU agriculture
0:40:04 > 0:40:11laws to closely it can harm our ability to do proper trade deals
0:40:11 > 0:40:16with others around the world.If Britain diverged totally, Simon,
0:40:16 > 0:40:22with they impose tariffs and other barriers?The question is, does it
0:40:22 > 0:40:27diverged from the framework that you've got? The EU would like to
0:40:27 > 0:40:32keep us close in alignment, but any divergences raises questions of what
0:40:32 > 0:40:36sanctions or penalties the EU could impose. You have real tension
0:40:36 > 0:40:39between wanting to have flexibility but also not wanting to impose
0:40:39 > 0:40:43barriers with your existing relations. The balance of that, I
0:40:43 > 0:40:47think, is something that is not clear how you make it work, I knew
0:40:47 > 0:40:51the site. They both say that they want a good and close relationship
0:40:51 > 0:40:54but how you make that work in practice, I think, really is not
0:40:54 > 0:41:01clear.What is the reaction to the EU's chief negotiator on Brexit,
0:41:01 > 0:41:04Michel Barnier, saying in an interview that there will not be a
0:41:04 > 0:41:09bespoke deal for Britain, and that is not what Britain once?The
0:41:09 > 0:41:13reaction to that is, hang on, that is their negotiating position, we
0:41:13 > 0:41:18have ours, we do not assume that is the outcome but a lot of experts
0:41:18 > 0:41:21would say, who knew that we would be talking about regulator Lou
0:41:21 > 0:41:28alignment for a couple of years? But many would see it is hard to break
0:41:28 > 0:41:30away from a deal -- regulatory alignment for a couple of years? Do
0:41:30 > 0:41:35we want an economy like Norway or one like Canada? When you get to
0:41:35 > 0:41:43that point, there are divisions across Parliament and also within
0:41:43 > 0:41:46the Conservative Party.What will the next couple of years be like, in
0:41:46 > 0:41:52till March 2019? It will feel like ten years!Judging from negotiation
0:41:52 > 0:41:55so far it will feel like there is a lot going on but the next key battle
0:41:55 > 0:42:01is the transition. As for the EU wants to talk about next. Obviously,
0:42:01 > 0:42:05Theresa May has competing interests, Brexiteers are slightly
0:42:05 > 0:42:10uncomfortable about the idea that transition is just going to be
0:42:10 > 0:42:13staying in the customs union or the single market.How do you feel about
0:42:13 > 0:42:22that? I don't think it is ideal but it does look like we are going to go
0:42:22 > 0:42:26down that route.I think the most important thing is to secure these
0:42:26 > 0:42:30concessions that she is talking about and we are expecting her to
0:42:30 > 0:42:34talk about later today in the Commons. In securing an ability for
0:42:34 > 0:42:39Britain to sign trade deals in this period. Michael Gove wants to come
0:42:39 > 0:42:43out the common fisheries policy, we may not be able to get a different
0:42:43 > 0:42:45agreement on the overall architecture of the transition
0:42:45 > 0:42:50period. But on things that are not essential, like frictionless trade
0:42:50 > 0:42:56in the transitional period, that's the approach. In trade deals with
0:42:56 > 0:43:01other countries, I think it might be symbolic rather than substantive,
0:43:01 > 0:43:04these are complicated deals. A lot of other countries will not want to
0:43:04 > 0:43:11conclude a deal until we know what the relationship with the EU is. We
0:43:11 > 0:43:15will see a lot of debate in the remainder of these negotiations
0:43:15 > 0:43:21about what is actually meaningful and what might be more about things
0:43:21 > 0:43:26to take home and show that we have won a victory in negotiations. There
0:43:26 > 0:43:31is still a lot on the table, despite what we've agreed last week.OK,
0:43:31 > 0:43:38thank you all. Thank you for coming in. We appreciate it.
0:43:38 > 0:43:40Coming up, we speak to the 22-year-old student whose
0:43:40 > 0:43:41rape trial collapsed after detectives failed
0:43:41 > 0:43:45to disclose vital evidence.
0:43:45 > 0:43:50Liam Allan on this programme after 10.30.
0:43:50 > 0:43:52He is here with his mum.
0:43:52 > 0:43:55Tens of thousands of people may be putting themselves at increased risk
0:43:55 > 0:43:58of dying early from heart attacks and strokes because they're
0:43:58 > 0:44:01mis-using anabolic steroids.
0:44:01 > 0:44:05British heart doctors have issued the stark warning amid concern
0:44:05 > 0:44:08steroids are now being used by a growing number of people,
0:44:08 > 0:44:10particularly young men, in pursuit of what they see
0:44:10 > 0:44:13as the perfect body.
0:44:13 > 0:44:16Steroids are legal to use and legal to possess across the UK -
0:44:16 > 0:44:18but illegal to supply unless you're a doctor.
0:44:18 > 0:44:26Radio 1 Newsbeat's Daniel Whitworth reports.
0:44:26 > 0:44:29The way people chase the dream of their perfect body is changing.
0:44:29 > 0:44:32The pressure men are now facing is similar to what women have had
0:44:32 > 0:44:33to deal with for decades.
0:44:33 > 0:44:35Diets, workouts, days spent in the gym.
0:44:35 > 0:44:37For many, young men especially, anabolic steroids are being
0:44:37 > 0:44:44increasingly used to help achieve that dream.
0:44:44 > 0:44:48In this film, I'm going to find out from one user why he takes them
0:44:48 > 0:44:51and put him through a series of tests to see what damage,
0:44:51 > 0:44:53if any, they have done to his body.
0:44:53 > 0:44:56I'll hear from the experts, look at the law surrounding
0:44:56 > 0:44:58steroid use in the UK, and speak to a dealer
0:44:58 > 0:45:02about why he does it.
0:45:07 > 0:45:11Gareth Jenkins, who's 29 and lives just outside of Cardiff,
0:45:11 > 0:45:14is one of the estimated hundreds of thousands of people who regularly
0:45:14 > 0:45:18take anabolic steroids to build muscle.
0:45:18 > 0:45:22I've been using steroids for about four, five years.
0:45:22 > 0:45:24When you train naturally, which I have done for number
0:45:24 > 0:45:28of years before using steroids, you tire quicker.
0:45:28 > 0:45:31You ache more.
0:45:31 > 0:45:33And obviously, when you use the performance-enhancing drug
0:45:33 > 0:45:36which is the steroid, you don't come you don't have
0:45:36 > 0:45:38those muscle soreness anywhere near as much.
0:45:38 > 0:45:39I feel more awake.
0:45:39 > 0:45:40I feel better in myself.
0:45:40 > 0:45:41I feel more manly.
0:45:41 > 0:45:45I've got a higher sex drive.
0:45:45 > 0:45:48There are some serious potential risks you are running from a medical
0:45:48 > 0:45:50perspective about using steroids, things like increased
0:45:50 > 0:45:54risk of heart attacks, increased risk of strokes,
0:45:54 > 0:45:55mood swings, infertility.
0:45:55 > 0:45:58Do those things not worry you?
0:45:58 > 0:46:00The way I look at it is, yes, they do bother me, obviously,
0:46:00 > 0:46:02but, like, everything...
0:46:02 > 0:46:03So you're aware of the risks?
0:46:03 > 0:46:04I'm fully aware.
0:46:04 > 0:46:05And the consequences?
0:46:05 > 0:46:06Fully aware, yeah.
0:46:06 > 0:46:09I've done my research to see obviously what harm or potential
0:46:09 > 0:46:12harm it would have on me over a prolonged period of time
0:46:12 > 0:46:14if I was using them, whether I was using them correctly
0:46:14 > 0:46:17or incorrectly but the fact of the matter is in terms
0:46:17 > 0:46:20of the risks, is everything that we do in life now carries
0:46:20 > 0:46:23a risk of heart attack, cancer, whatever it is.
0:46:23 > 0:46:27So whatever it is, I'm going to get those risks anyway so I choose not
0:46:27 > 0:46:30to do certain things and I choose this as my lifestyle instead.
0:46:30 > 0:46:35So whereas I don't go out drinking and smoking, I take steroids.
0:46:35 > 0:46:38Steroids can cause health problems because they create an imbalance
0:46:38 > 0:46:41of hormones in the body which can damage many organs but
0:46:41 > 0:46:43especially the heart.
0:46:43 > 0:46:45Garreth says he tries to minimise any risk
0:46:45 > 0:46:53by taking his steroids in cycles, like 16 weeks on and
0:46:53 > 0:46:54then eight weeks off.
0:46:54 > 0:46:55There's two types of steroid.
0:46:55 > 0:46:58There is one which comes in a liquid form, which is
0:46:58 > 0:46:58an intramuscular injection.
0:46:58 > 0:47:00That is this type.
0:47:00 > 0:47:01So you inject that?
0:47:01 > 0:47:04I would inject this directly into a muscle two times a week.
0:47:04 > 0:47:06And then the other type is in tablet form.
0:47:06 > 0:47:08When I'm using this type of steroid, I would use five
0:47:08 > 0:47:10per day for seven days.
0:47:10 > 0:47:12So basically, five per day, every day.
0:47:12 > 0:47:15So over the course of a period of around six months
0:47:15 > 0:47:17when you on steroids for that long, roughly how much do
0:47:17 > 0:47:21you think you spent?
0:47:21 > 0:47:23At a rough estimate, probably with the cycle itself
0:47:23 > 0:47:25and the post-course treatment, would be about £500, I suspect.
0:47:25 > 0:47:28That's a lot of money. It is.
0:47:28 > 0:47:31It's probably a lot less in six months than somebody who is spending
0:47:31 > 0:47:33it on drink on a weekend.
0:47:33 > 0:47:34Worth it, do you think?
0:47:34 > 0:47:38For me personally, yeah.
0:47:40 > 0:47:42When it comes to the law on anabolic steroids,
0:47:42 > 0:47:47it is legal to use them and legal to possess them right across the UK.
0:47:47 > 0:47:51What is illegal, though, is supplying them,
0:47:51 > 0:47:54unless you are a doctor, and that means either selling them
0:47:54 > 0:47:57or just passing them on for free.
0:47:57 > 0:48:00If caught, you could face up to 14 years in prison.
0:48:00 > 0:48:02Because Gareth is only using steroids, not supplying them,
0:48:02 > 0:48:06he's not in any trouble with the law.
0:48:06 > 0:48:10It could be a different story with his health, though.
0:48:10 > 0:48:13So later this week, he's agreed to go to London for a series
0:48:13 > 0:48:15of tests that will find out what damage, if any,
0:48:15 > 0:48:18he's done to his heart.
0:48:18 > 0:48:22Keep your throat still.
0:48:22 > 0:48:25I basically starting working out because I was bullied really
0:48:25 > 0:48:27bad when I was younger, for being small and basically just
0:48:27 > 0:48:32a feral child of the school.
0:48:32 > 0:48:35So I just ended up locking myself away in the gym,
0:48:35 > 0:48:37training and getting bigger and stronger.
0:48:37 > 0:48:39Getting inked.
0:48:39 > 0:48:42It all sort of fell into one big procedure, that I seem to be
0:48:42 > 0:48:46doing in a lifestyle way, pretty much.
0:48:46 > 0:48:49Yeah, in the middle there is not nice.
0:48:49 > 0:48:50The rest of it is fine so far.
0:48:50 > 0:48:55So going down to London to have all those tests done,
0:48:55 > 0:48:57which I'm excited about, to be honest with you,
0:48:57 > 0:49:00yet slightly nervous because obviously, it could come
0:49:00 > 0:49:03back that there is something significantly wrong and if I don't
0:49:03 > 0:49:06change my lifestyle, then...
0:49:06 > 0:49:11Obviously, I could have health issues.
0:49:11 > 0:49:16My prediction is that I think I would be pretty stupid
0:49:16 > 0:49:21if I thought that my heart wouldn't have changed, you know,
0:49:21 > 0:49:24four or five years, with the use of any performance enhancing drug
0:49:24 > 0:49:27that is anabolic, it is going to have that effect.
0:49:27 > 0:49:30So I think if it hasn't, then what I have been taking is fake
0:49:30 > 0:49:32and I've done it naturally.
0:49:32 > 0:49:33So...
0:49:33 > 0:49:36LAUGHTER.
0:49:36 > 0:49:39And obviously, if it is significant, there will be no doubt in my mind
0:49:39 > 0:49:44that I will obviously change my lifestyle overnight.
0:49:44 > 0:49:48Whether people use or abuse anabolic steroids is a matter of opinion.
0:49:48 > 0:49:51For some in the medical world, if steroids are not prescribed
0:49:51 > 0:49:53by a doctor, then it is simple.
0:49:53 > 0:49:58Taking them is of use.
0:49:58 > 0:49:59-- abuse.
0:49:59 > 0:50:02Many people who researched dosages and try to minimise the risks,
0:50:02 > 0:50:04though, would say they don't abuse them but instead use them.
0:50:04 > 0:50:08One thing that is widely agreed on, though, is that the issue is now
0:50:08 > 0:50:11affecting more people than ever before.
0:50:11 > 0:50:14We don't know the exact number of anabolic steroid users
0:50:14 > 0:50:21there are but it certainly measures in the hundreds of thousands.
0:50:21 > 0:50:24We are seeing now a different population of users.
0:50:24 > 0:50:27While we still have people who are using them for the purpose
0:50:27 > 0:50:29of body-building, we are seeing a new population of predominantly
0:50:29 > 0:50:31young males but also quite older males as well,
0:50:31 > 0:50:38who are using them purely for cosmetic purposes.
0:50:38 > 0:50:41There's a number of pressures on young men and most
0:50:41 > 0:50:42of these pressures
0:50:42 > 0:50:43were not around a generation ago.
0:50:43 > 0:50:45These are things like social media.
0:50:45 > 0:50:46Mainstream advertising, even.
0:50:46 > 0:50:49If ever you see a man with his shirt off, then chances are they will have
0:50:49 > 0:50:51quite a well-defined physique.
0:50:51 > 0:50:54Again, males may not be geared up to dealing with this.
0:50:54 > 0:50:58This is something that women have had to deal
0:50:58 > 0:51:03with for generations, but this is quite a new thing for men.
0:51:03 > 0:51:07For Gareth, he is about to undergo a series of tests which will check
0:51:07 > 0:51:09what damage, if any, he's done to his heart.
0:51:09 > 0:51:14The person in charge is cardiology doctor, Anil Malhotra.
0:51:14 > 0:51:16We are going to do three tests today.
0:51:16 > 0:51:17Yeah.
0:51:17 > 0:51:20The first is to look at the electoral activity of the heart.
0:51:20 > 0:51:22The second is to look at the heart muscle itself.
0:51:22 > 0:51:23Yeah.
0:51:23 > 0:51:26And the third is to actually exercise your heart and we will see
0:51:26 > 0:51:27how you have performed.
0:51:27 > 0:51:28Right.
0:51:28 > 0:51:29Is that all right?
0:51:29 > 0:51:30Yeah, no problem.
0:51:30 > 0:51:32NHS guidelines say that by taking anabolic steroids,
0:51:32 > 0:51:35Gareth is risking side-effects like infertility, mood swings
0:51:35 > 0:51:40and even heart attack and stroke.
0:51:40 > 0:51:43This is the sound of the blood flowing across
0:51:43 > 0:51:44the valves of your heart.
0:51:44 > 0:51:47We are just assessing how quickly the blood flows through the valve
0:51:47 > 0:51:49and we are able to see whether there is any
0:51:49 > 0:51:54narrowing of the valve or any leakages as well.
0:51:54 > 0:51:59I suspect that they will show some form of thickness
0:51:59 > 0:52:01or abnormality to the heart.
0:52:01 > 0:52:04It is bound to have changed in some way after four
0:52:04 > 0:52:07or five years of taking a performance enhancing drug.
0:52:07 > 0:52:10The British cardiovascular Society says tens of thousands of people
0:52:10 > 0:52:14could be putting themselves at increased risks of the most
0:52:14 > 0:52:20serious side-effects by taking anabolic steroids.
0:52:20 > 0:52:22I am cycling towards a cheesecake.
0:52:22 > 0:52:25And I'll get there!
0:52:25 > 0:52:27Billionaire's cheesecake on the horizon.
0:52:27 > 0:52:33Let's get there.
0:52:33 > 0:52:36After pushing himself to the limit, Gareth will be able to find out
0:52:36 > 0:52:38how his heart has performed and what effect his
0:52:38 > 0:52:39steroid users had.
0:52:41 > 0:52:44With hundreds of thousands of people now thought to be taking
0:52:44 > 0:52:47steroids every year, right across the UK,
0:52:47 > 0:52:49clearly they are getting them from somewhere.
0:52:49 > 0:52:54But government figures show that for the whole of 2015 and 2016,
0:52:54 > 0:52:59right across England and Wales, there were just 25 convictions
0:52:59 > 0:53:02relating to the illegal supply of steroids and just seven of those
0:53:02 > 0:53:06ended with a prison sentence.
0:53:06 > 0:53:10So for this man, who spoke on condition of anonymity,
0:53:10 > 0:53:14the law hasn't come close to stopping him from dealing.
0:53:14 > 0:53:20We know you supply steroids.
0:53:20 > 0:53:22We know you're a steroid dealer.
0:53:22 > 0:53:23Obviously, it is illegal.
0:53:23 > 0:53:24You are breaking the law.
0:53:24 > 0:53:26A lot of people say you are putting people's
0:53:26 > 0:53:27lives, their health, certainly, at risk.
0:53:27 > 0:53:29What do you say to that?
0:53:29 > 0:53:32To start off with the health risks, I think steroids are readily
0:53:32 > 0:53:39available to anyone who wants to access them at the moment.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41I like to see myself as more of somebody
0:53:41 > 0:53:42who provides information.
0:53:42 > 0:53:45You know, to ensure people can do it safely.
0:53:45 > 0:53:48Look, people are going to use them regardless of whether they buy them
0:53:48 > 0:53:50from me or whether they buy them from an unknown source online.
0:53:50 > 0:53:53But if they can talk to me about it, then,
0:53:53 > 0:53:56how to inject themselves safely, or look at dosages or if I can help
0:53:56 > 0:54:00them, even if not to take steroids, if I don't think it is appropriate
0:54:00 > 0:54:01for them, then I will.
0:54:01 > 0:54:04That is the reason I try to, that is the reason I'm involved in it.
0:54:04 > 0:54:07Who are the types of people getting them from you?
0:54:07 > 0:54:09Who is coming to you for these steroids?
0:54:09 > 0:54:11There's a very broad spectrum of people that use steroids.
0:54:11 > 0:54:13It ranges from young guys, 18 years old, 19, 20,
0:54:13 > 0:54:16who are just starting out in their training and they are
0:54:16 > 0:54:19looking to bulk up for maybe a summer holiday or to look good.
0:54:19 > 0:54:20For a summer holiday?
0:54:20 > 0:54:23For a summer holiday or they just want to attract the girls.
0:54:23 > 0:54:26They want to go out on a night out and attract the girls.
0:54:26 > 0:54:28These are the guys that are less aware.
0:54:28 > 0:54:31These are the guys you have to be more informative
0:54:31 > 0:54:33when you talk to them about it, make them more aware
0:54:33 > 0:54:34of the risks and dangers.
0:54:34 > 0:54:37If you go to an Instagram page and there is a guy
0:54:37 > 0:54:40on there who looks a certain way and he has got 300,000 likes,
0:54:40 > 0:54:42women commenting on him, saying, "You look amazing,
0:54:42 > 0:54:44you look this or that".
0:54:44 > 0:54:45Because he's well built?
0:54:45 > 0:54:48Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the guys are going, "Oh, you look really
0:54:48 > 0:54:50buff, your arms are huge", all that sort of stuff.
0:54:50 > 0:54:53They're the comments that you will see and these young guys
0:54:53 > 0:54:55feel pressured to try to strive to achieve that.
0:54:55 > 0:54:57Even ten years ago, before social media was around,
0:54:57 > 0:55:00you were only judged by your peers, the people that you
0:55:00 > 0:55:01knew and that he met.
0:55:01 > 0:55:03What about the health of the people who you are
0:55:03 > 0:55:04supplying these drugs do?
0:55:04 > 0:55:06They convey things like infertility, mood swings, they can
0:55:06 > 0:55:08face getting strokes, decades earlier than the average
0:55:08 > 0:55:09am a heart attacks.
0:55:09 > 0:55:11It is illegal for a reason.
0:55:11 > 0:55:12Yeah.
0:55:12 > 0:55:15But I don't agree with it being illegal because I will tell
0:55:15 > 0:55:16you that doctors prescribed testosterone to people.
0:55:16 > 0:55:18So there's a reason...
0:55:18 > 0:55:20You are not a doctor.
0:55:20 > 0:55:23No, no, I'm saying that doctors prescribe it so steroids
0:55:23 > 0:55:26or testosterone in this example, if it was killing people left,
0:55:26 > 0:55:29right and centre, they would not be prescribing it and I think
0:55:29 > 0:55:31the media sensationalises it.
0:55:31 > 0:55:34I'm going to tell you now, there are people that abuse steroids
0:55:34 > 0:55:39and they do damage their health and that is their choice.
0:55:39 > 0:55:44One man who is all too aware of the risks of taking steroids
0:55:44 > 0:55:46he has got on the black market is Gareth and after using them
0:55:46 > 0:55:49for nearly five years, he is about to find out the effect
0:55:49 > 0:55:51they have had on his heart.
0:55:51 > 0:55:53Take a seat.
0:55:53 > 0:55:57We can go over your results.
0:55:57 > 0:56:00So I have got your ECG tracing and I have seen your Echo report
0:56:00 > 0:56:03and the reports from the exercise test as well.
0:56:03 > 0:56:04Yeah, yeah.
0:56:04 > 0:56:07What it shows is that your heart is working well.
0:56:07 > 0:56:09Right.
0:56:09 > 0:56:17And that's...
0:56:17 > 0:56:19You have come through your exercise test well as well.
0:56:19 > 0:56:20Yeah.
0:56:20 > 0:56:23But we do think that you are at the upper limit of normal
0:56:23 > 0:56:26in terms of the thickness of the wall of your heart
0:56:26 > 0:56:28and that is most likely due to your weightlifting
0:56:28 > 0:56:29and your steroid use.
0:56:29 > 0:56:30Yeah.
0:56:30 > 0:56:33You are still young and you have not been using steroids for that long
0:56:33 > 0:56:37but if one does continue to do so, then you are putting yourself
0:56:37 > 0:56:39at increased risk of heart attacks and potentially strokes as well.
0:56:39 > 0:56:40Yeah.
0:56:40 > 0:56:45You know, steroid use has a variety of bad effects on the heart.
0:56:45 > 0:56:50I class myself as quite a sensible person.
0:56:50 > 0:56:51Taking my own health into account that it
0:56:51 > 0:56:54will just be sensible, being the key word, do not push
0:56:54 > 0:56:59the boundary to the point where something is not reversible.
0:56:59 > 0:57:00So to not keep using steroids?
0:57:00 > 0:57:02To not keep using steroids, yeah.
0:57:02 > 0:57:03All for the better.
0:57:03 > 0:57:06Cheaper, too!
0:57:06 > 0:57:10It looks like Gareth's steroid days might be numbered but he is just one
0:57:10 > 0:57:12of hundreds of thousands of users.
0:57:12 > 0:57:13Dealers are unlikely to get caught.
0:57:13 > 0:57:15The number of convictions for supply is low.
0:57:15 > 0:57:25Doctors want change.
0:57:25 > 0:57:27Worried about potential long-term health problems for users.
0:57:27 > 0:57:28So is change on the way?
0:57:28 > 0:57:32Well, we do know that the group that advises the government on drug
0:57:32 > 0:57:34misuse is in the middle of a big review into steroids.
0:57:34 > 0:57:37We don't know yet what it is going to say.
0:57:37 > 0:57:41Much more on that to come on radio 1 newsbeat and you can read about it
0:57:41 > 0:57:45on the site bbc.co.uk/newsbeat.
0:57:49 > 0:57:52Latest news and sport at ten. Now Matt
0:57:52 > 0:57:53Latest news and sport at ten. Now Matt with the weather. Good
0:57:53 > 0:58:02morning. A big travel week for many. The weather may play a part. This
0:58:02 > 0:58:05morning there was some mist and fog around Glasgow, Manchester and
0:58:05 > 0:58:10Birmingham. For most, the start of the working week looks like this.
0:58:10 > 0:58:15Frost on the ground, sunny skies overhead. For most, the Sunnis guys
0:58:15 > 0:58:22will last all day. Thicker cloud for the far north of Scotland. Here is
0:58:22 > 0:58:28where it will be a great day. Elsewhere, barely a breath of wind.
0:58:28 > 0:58:38That means the fog will be slowly shifting. Sunny skies throughout.
0:58:38 > 0:58:42Temperatures only slowly lifting. Still a little on the chilly side
0:58:42 > 0:58:48today in the north and east. In the West, temperatures will climb.
0:58:48 > 0:58:51Particularly across the Hebrides. 10 degrees in Stornoway. The wind,
0:58:51 > 0:59:00cloud and occasional rain is the price to pay. Sitting on the hills
0:59:00 > 0:59:07of northern Ireland and Scotland, some fog. A widespread -- widespread
0:59:07 > 0:59:11frost in southern England. If you are on the move tomorrow morning,
0:59:11 > 0:59:16there could be some problems on the roads. Also at the airports.
0:59:16 > 0:59:20Particularly the Midlands, East Anglia and the South of England.
0:59:20 > 0:59:24Dense and widespread fog throughout the rush hour. That will be slow to
0:59:24 > 0:59:28shift. It could affect some major airports. Check with your travel
0:59:28 > 0:59:32company before you head out. That fog will linger for a good part of
0:59:32 > 0:59:37the day. There will be some good sunny breaks. Sunshine breaking
0:59:37 > 0:59:42through the cloud for north-east Scotland. Part of Antrim, north-east
0:59:42 > 0:59:46England, too. Otherwise, cloudier in the West. Patchy rain or drizzle on
0:59:46 > 0:59:51the hills. If you do get the sunshine, 14, 15 degrees possible in
0:59:51 > 1:00:00the Moray Firth. Three or 4 degrees were the fog lingers. Into Tuesday
1:00:00 > 1:00:04night, the rain spreads across Scotland and Northern Ireland,
1:00:04 > 1:00:06allowing clearer conditions and brighter weather for the middle part
1:00:06 > 1:00:13of the week. Freddie Gray in England and Wales. Not a huge amount of
1:00:13 > 1:00:18sunshine. Dense fog here and there. Overall it will be a mild day.
1:00:18 > 1:00:22Patchy rain and drizzle into Northern England, North and West
1:00:22 > 1:00:26Wales. This week and not a huge amount of rain. If you are on the
1:00:26 > 1:00:30move, keep across the forecast. Light winds could lead to some dense
1:00:30 > 1:00:31fog.
1:00:35 > 1:00:37Hello, it's Monday, it's ten o'clock.
1:00:37 > 1:00:39I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
1:00:39 > 1:00:41This morning: claims that sexual abuse and harassment is "endemic"
1:00:41 > 1:00:43in the music industry, with "dangerous men"
1:00:43 > 1:00:51abusing their power.
1:00:51 > 1:00:57Young women are being sexually assaulted. Still, today. There are
1:00:57 > 1:01:02some very dangerous men in this business.Right at the top?Yes.
1:01:02 > 1:01:12Currently?Yes.We hear stories from other women in the industry.
1:01:12 > 1:01:14And - after a 22-year-old student's rape trial collapsed
1:01:14 > 1:01:19after detectives failed to disclose vital evidence.
1:01:19 > 1:01:23Text and WhatsApp messages that proved his innocence, he tells the
1:01:23 > 1:01:27programme that he wants an apology. We will hear from Liam Allan after
1:01:27 > 1:01:3010:30am.
1:01:30 > 1:01:33Also on the programme - he was one of the last men
1:01:33 > 1:01:36to be hanged in Britain, convicted of murdering a man who had
1:01:36 > 1:01:38been his best friend, but was Gwynne Owen Evans a victim
1:01:38 > 1:01:39of a miscarriage of justice?
1:01:39 > 1:01:44We will bring the story in the next 30 minutes.
1:01:44 > 1:01:49Time for the latest news with Annita.
1:01:49 > 1:01:52Theresa May is due to meet her Brexit cabinet today to discuss
1:01:52 > 1:01:54for the first time what the UK's future relationship
1:01:54 > 1:02:00with the EU should be.
1:02:00 > 1:02:03The PM will later tell MPs the UK wants to sign trade deals
1:02:03 > 1:02:04during a transition period.
1:02:04 > 1:02:06EU leaders have agreed talks can move on, including
1:02:06 > 1:02:08to discuss a transition deal for a post-Brexit period.
1:02:08 > 1:02:18Labour has raised concerns that trade may not be
1:02:20 > 1:02:21discussed for months.
1:02:21 > 1:02:24Police in Beirut say they have arrested a suspect as part
1:02:24 > 1:02:27of the investigation into the murder of a British embassy worker
1:02:27 > 1:02:29whose body was found by the side of a motorway.
1:02:29 > 1:02:31Rebecca Dykes was working in the capital city
1:02:31 > 1:02:33of Beirut for the Department for International Development.
1:02:33 > 1:02:36It is thought she had been abducted and strangled after leaving a party.
1:02:36 > 1:02:39Tens of thousands of people may be at increased risk of dying early
1:02:39 > 1:02:41from heart attacks and strokes by misusing anabolic steroids,
1:02:41 > 1:02:50according to doctors.
1:02:50 > 1:02:52The British Cardiovascular Society gave the warning amid concern
1:02:52 > 1:02:54steroids are now being taken by hundreds of thousands of people.
1:02:54 > 1:02:57Public health experts say men in their teens and 20s
1:02:57 > 1:03:00are behind the rise.
1:03:00 > 1:03:02This programme has been told that sexual abuse and harassment
1:03:02 > 1:03:04in the music industry are "endemic".
1:03:04 > 1:03:06Four women have spoken about the serious assaults and rape
1:03:06 > 1:03:09they suffered at the hands of powerful men in the industry.
1:03:09 > 1:03:12One singer has spoken about being groomed by her manager
1:03:12 > 1:03:14at one of the biggest music companies in the UK
1:03:14 > 1:03:24when she was just 15 years old.
1:03:24 > 1:03:27The family of a taxi driver who was among six people killed
1:03:27 > 1:03:29in a road accident in Birmingham yesterday, have described him
1:03:29 > 1:03:30as "happy" and "loving".
1:03:30 > 1:03:32Imtiaz Mohammed and his two passengers all died,
1:03:32 > 1:03:33alongside three men in another car.
1:03:33 > 1:03:35Crash investigators are trying to piece together
1:03:35 > 1:03:41what caused the pile-up.
1:03:41 > 1:03:46Two adults and a child being treated in hospital after a fire broke out
1:03:46 > 1:03:50at a 5-star hotel on the banks of Loch Lomond. 12 appliances are at
1:03:50 > 1:03:54the scene and crews are in the building, fighting the blaze. That's
1:03:54 > 1:03:59the summary of the latest BBC News, more at half past ten.
1:03:59 > 1:04:04Some breaking news, the Queen has approved the nomination of the Right
1:04:04 > 1:04:09Reverend Sarah Mullally as the new Bishop of London. Downing Street
1:04:09 > 1:04:12have just announced that, that makes her the most senior woman in the
1:04:12 > 1:04:16church. Our religious affairs correspondent Martin Bashir is here,
1:04:16 > 1:04:22tell us about this woman and why it is so historic?A historic moment
1:04:22 > 1:04:28for women, 25 years after the first woman priest, when the General Synod
1:04:28 > 1:04:32announced in 1992 that women could become priests, a woman has risen to
1:04:32 > 1:04:35what people describe as the holy trinity of the hierarchy of the
1:04:35 > 1:04:41Church of England. Sarah Mullally has been appointed this morning, the
1:04:41 > 1:04:46announcement was made by Downing Street. She is a former nurse, and
1:04:46 > 1:04:50she rose to become the director of nursing in the Department of Health
1:04:50 > 1:04:57in 1999. She is actually, she actually had a formidable career in
1:04:57 > 1:05:00the NHS and decided to train part-time theologically, she did it
1:05:00 > 1:05:06in her own time and was ordained in 2001. She continued to practice in
1:05:06 > 1:05:10the Department of Health but also part-time in the church. Eventually
1:05:10 > 1:05:16went full-time in 2004. She was appointed Bishop of credit and just
1:05:16 > 1:05:21in 2015. It's a meteoric rise but hugely significant for issues of
1:05:21 > 1:05:26equality within the Church of England.What do we know about her
1:05:26 > 1:05:32views on controversial issues like gay marriage, for example?She has
1:05:32 > 1:05:35not publicly expressed a view that is different to the Church of
1:05:35 > 1:05:40England. She has been on the National safeguarding steering group
1:05:40 > 1:05:43which, as you know, has been responsible for looking at the
1:05:43 > 1:05:48church's management of child sexual abuse and on Friday I reported a
1:05:48 > 1:05:54situation involving Bishop George Bell, who was wrongly accused
1:05:54 > 1:05:57posthumously of abuse and the church had to make an apology. She is on
1:05:57 > 1:06:03the steering group. When you become Bishop of London, you also receive
1:06:03 > 1:06:09the title of Dean of the Chapels Royal, they are unique institutions
1:06:09 > 1:06:13which do not have a Bishop overseeing them but the moniker. St
1:06:13 > 1:06:19George 's Chapel in Windsor and Westminster Abbey. We know that in
1:06:19 > 1:06:23May that is going to be a rather special wedding and it might be
1:06:23 > 1:06:27possible, I'm not certain, but it may be possible that she presides at
1:06:27 > 1:06:31the wedding of Prince Harry to Meghan Markle. That would be a
1:06:31 > 1:06:36hugely significant event or so. Martin, thank you. Let me read you
1:06:36 > 1:06:40some comments which have come in from you, having watched our film
1:06:40 > 1:06:43about claims of sexual abuse and harassment within the music
1:06:43 > 1:06:49industry. Our investigation has effectively shown that kind of
1:06:49 > 1:06:53behaviour is endemic. April on Twitter said, if we all shared our
1:06:53 > 1:06:57experiences of the music industry online, most of my female friends
1:06:57 > 1:07:02would be sued. It is endemic. Those attackers believe that they are
1:07:02 > 1:07:05untouchable. Gordon, on Twitter, says that he is sickened by what you
1:07:05 > 1:07:12have discovered in the music industry. The dark side. Nick says,
1:07:12 > 1:07:16trust me, it isn't just women being raped by men, myself and my old lead
1:07:16 > 1:07:20guitarist were forced into a sexual situation with a 45-year-old woman
1:07:20 > 1:07:24to get an interview with a label. She plied us with cannabis and
1:07:24 > 1:07:31alcohol. Until we were not ourselves. If you are getting in
1:07:31 > 1:07:35touch with those, you are welcome. If you prefer, you can remain
1:07:35 > 1:07:38anonymous. Use the hashtag or send us an e-mail
1:07:38 > 1:07:41or use WhatsApp, or you can leave us a message on
1:07:41 > 1:07:44Here's some sport now with Holly Hamilton.
1:07:44 > 1:07:46The bringer of bad news, I am afraid!
1:07:46 > 1:07:49Australia have crushed England in the third Test at the Waca
1:07:49 > 1:07:51to wrap up the Ashes Series 3-0.
1:07:51 > 1:07:53The visitors needed to bat throughout the final day
1:07:53 > 1:07:57of the third Test in Perth to force a draw - and keep the series alive.
1:07:57 > 1:07:59But they lost their remaining six wickets in 34 overs
1:07:59 > 1:08:00to be bowled out for 218.
1:08:00 > 1:08:03They lost the game by an innings and 41 runs.
1:08:03 > 1:08:06Captain Joe Root admits the result is "hard to take" but they'd carry
1:08:06 > 1:08:13on fighting in the two remaining Tests.
1:08:13 > 1:08:17It is bitterly disappointing. One of the most frustrating things is that
1:08:17 > 1:08:22we haven't been blown away. We have not been completely outplayed. We
1:08:22 > 1:08:26have put up some really good performances, just not for long
1:08:26 > 1:08:30enough, as simple as that, really. In all three games there have been
1:08:30 > 1:08:34periods when we have matched and outplayed Australia put those key
1:08:34 > 1:08:41moments within the game, credit to the guys on this side, they have
1:08:41 > 1:08:45grasped bows and driven home. We will learn from that and make sure
1:08:45 > 1:08:49in these last two games, it is
1:08:49 > 1:08:52us but does it.It has been an amazing couple of weeks. I have
1:08:52 > 1:09:00really enjoyed every moment of it. We have put in so much hard work
1:09:00 > 1:09:03that the preparation and everything that has come with the series, it
1:09:03 > 1:09:12has been huge. We've been able to get that back. All of the emotions
1:09:12 > 1:09:25came out at once, I am so pleased and happy for the group.
1:09:25 > 1:09:27So a bitter pill for England to swallow -
1:09:27 > 1:09:30I think Joe Root's face says it all there..
1:09:30 > 1:09:33England will have to dust themselves off now and come back strong -
1:09:33 > 1:09:34still two tests to go Victoria.
1:09:34 > 1:09:40Thank you. Good morning.
1:09:40 > 1:09:44A group of women working across the music industry have told us that
1:09:44 > 1:09:47sexual harassment is prominent. We have heard from artists and
1:09:47 > 1:09:51musicians, as well as women working for music companies who have
1:09:51 > 1:09:55recounted incidents of serious abuse and assault. Some are collecting
1:09:55 > 1:09:58evidence and to uncover how widespread this behaviour is within
1:09:58 > 1:10:06the sector. Reggie McKenzie has shown some of those stories. Before
1:10:06 > 1:10:11we show this film, we should say that it does contain graphic sexual
1:10:11 > 1:10:19descriptions. -- Jean McKenzie.
1:10:19 > 1:10:22When Amy was 15, she was contacted by a manager from one of the UK's
1:10:22 > 1:10:23largest music companies.
1:10:23 > 1:10:25They started working together and she quickly became
1:10:25 > 1:10:26a successful artist.
1:10:26 > 1:10:28Soon after, she says, everything went wrong.
1:10:28 > 1:10:32He told me that he was in love with me and that if I didn't agree
1:10:32 > 1:10:34to be his girlfriend, then he would ruin my career.
1:10:34 > 1:10:37Over the next two years, he continued to blackmail me
1:10:37 > 1:10:41and threatened me to be in a relationship.
1:10:41 > 1:10:45What sort of things did he say to you to make you stay with him?
1:10:45 > 1:10:48He convinced me that he was the only reason I was having any success
1:10:48 > 1:10:53and that if I told anybody, that success would go away.
1:10:53 > 1:11:00For Chloe Howe, success also came at a young age,
1:11:00 > 1:11:03after being signed at just 16.
1:11:03 > 1:11:06She says that while she has experienced serious harassment,
1:11:06 > 1:11:09she knows girls who have had far worse.
1:11:09 > 1:11:13I know girls who have been raped and it is always a man in power
1:11:13 > 1:11:16and a girl on the rise who needs as much support as possible,
1:11:16 > 1:11:23whose career hasn't started yet.
1:11:23 > 1:11:27Yasmin is a music manager and last month, frustrated by the amount
1:11:27 > 1:11:29of harassment she had seen and experienced in the industry,
1:11:29 > 1:11:36she put out a call asking women to come forward with their stories.
1:11:36 > 1:11:39What I have found is that I'm getting less stories of sexual
1:11:39 > 1:11:43harassment and innuendo and more stories of serious sexual assault,
1:11:43 > 1:11:49more rape stories that I could possibly have imagined.
1:11:49 > 1:11:51This has encouraged Michelle to speak out
1:11:51 > 1:11:55after more than 20 years.
1:11:55 > 1:11:58While working for a major music company in her 20s,
1:11:58 > 1:12:04she says a more senior colleague repeatedly assaulted her.
1:12:04 > 1:12:07One day, I was with a girl in the office and we were told,
1:12:07 > 1:12:09could we go and see him after work?
1:12:09 > 1:12:13So we went up to his office and then he turned around to us both,
1:12:13 > 1:12:16took out his penis and said, "I want to have a threesome with
1:12:16 > 1:12:20you, come on girls, let's do it".
1:12:20 > 1:12:23We went to a lawyer and we were categorically told
1:12:23 > 1:12:25that he had committed a serious crime.
1:12:25 > 1:12:28But the lawyer said, "If you report this, you will never
1:12:28 > 1:12:34work in the industry again".
1:12:34 > 1:12:36Why have you decided to finally speak about
1:12:36 > 1:12:37what has happened to you?
1:12:37 > 1:12:39Because I never want it to happen to anybody again.
1:12:39 > 1:12:44Young women are being sexually assaulted still today.
1:12:44 > 1:12:47There are some very dangerous men in this business.
1:12:47 > 1:12:50Looking back, do you think that he groomed you?
1:12:50 > 1:12:53Yeah, I do think he groomed me.
1:12:53 > 1:12:56I was 15 when we met and he was looking online
1:12:56 > 1:12:59for a girl to manage.
1:12:59 > 1:13:02I have no doubt that there are people working in the music industry
1:13:02 > 1:13:03today who should be imprisoned.
1:13:03 > 1:13:06Maybe some of the horrific things they did were long time ago.
1:13:06 > 1:13:08They have probably forgotten about them.
1:13:08 > 1:13:14But I can assure you that their victims haven't.
1:13:14 > 1:13:16Let's talk now to Yasmin Lajoie.
1:13:21 > 1:13:23Isabelle Gutierrez is from the Musicians' Union.
1:13:23 > 1:13:25Since the Harvey Weinstein allegations, they have set up
1:13:25 > 1:13:28an anonymous reporting system, and are gathering evidence
1:13:28 > 1:13:30of the abuse that's happening in the industry.
1:13:30 > 1:13:32Diane Wagg is head of the Music Managers Forum,
1:13:32 > 1:13:34and a respected veteran music manager in the industry.
1:13:34 > 1:13:36And Helienne Lindvall is a former singer, now
1:13:36 > 1:13:38songwriter, and is the director of the British Academy
1:13:38 > 1:13:40of Songwriters.
1:13:40 > 1:13:45Thank you for coming onto the programme. What is your reaction to
1:13:45 > 1:13:48what our investigation has discovered?It is horrendous. I
1:13:48 > 1:13:51honestly cannot say that I am surprised but it is so sad that this
1:13:51 > 1:14:00is happening.It is heartbreaking. I thought that these stories came from
1:14:00 > 1:14:04the 1980s and 1990s. It is shocking to me, having been in the business
1:14:04 > 1:14:12for many decades now, to hear this, it is horrible.I agree, and I think
1:14:12 > 1:14:18they are very brave coming out and speaking on camera. One of the big
1:14:18 > 1:14:22reasons we are where we are is because women are shamed into
1:14:22 > 1:14:29silence a lot. I think a lot of people, when they heard the Harvey
1:14:29 > 1:14:33Weinstein thing, one of the things in the tape with him, he was saying,
1:14:33 > 1:14:38don't embarrass me. A lot of people have been there in that situation.
1:14:38 > 1:14:46You are trying to turn somebody down, you don't want to offend them.
1:14:46 > 1:14:51Because if you do...That is what Chloe was saying. You can flirt but
1:14:51 > 1:15:01keep it light and Johnny without hacking him. It is her career.Yes.
1:15:01 > 1:15:04-- and jolly. This is an e-mail from someone who wishes to remain
1:15:04 > 1:15:09anonymous.I worked in the music industry as a singer, I was
1:15:09 > 1:15:13propositioned in my mid 20s by an executive, he said if I slept with
1:15:13 > 1:15:21him, I would get the record deal. I didn't take up the offer and did not
1:15:21 > 1:15:25get the record deal. Somebody had taken my destiny in their hands and
1:15:25 > 1:15:29manipulated it. I do wonder if actually, because of the Internet,
1:15:29 > 1:15:34anybody can put their name on -- put their music online. More young
1:15:34 > 1:15:37people can be targeted by predatory men, in particular, in the music
1:15:37 > 1:15:41industry?
1:15:41 > 1:15:47I think that is correct. But it is not just the music industry. We have
1:15:47 > 1:15:52a problem with schoolchildren and social media. We are all doing a lot
1:15:52 > 1:16:00of work towards this. We were actually addressing this before Me
1:16:00 > 1:16:04Too and Harvey Weinstein. The good thing is it has accelerated phase.
1:16:04 > 1:16:10Everybody is talking about. We represent over 500 music managers in
1:16:10 > 1:16:15the UK. We have got a network of about 2700 in America. We have a
1:16:15 > 1:16:20code of practice. We have been through it earlier this year with a
1:16:20 > 1:16:28formal complaints procedure. We offer advice. We have also published
1:16:28 > 1:16:34a health and welfare guide. There is a lot going on.It is so clear, this
1:16:34 > 1:16:42culture of silence. You have set up this anonymous reporting system. But
1:16:42 > 1:16:50people are still scared command they?They are. I think it is the
1:16:50 > 1:16:55reason I would say the people have come forward our two figures rather
1:16:55 > 1:16:58than three figures. That barely scratches the surface. We have gone
1:16:58 > 1:17:03out of our way to say we will add non-demise cases. If we have
1:17:03 > 1:17:07somebody coming forward who doesn't want their case talked about in an
1:17:07 > 1:17:14anonymous fashion, we won't do that. People are terrified about what will
1:17:14 > 1:17:17happen to their careers.On the spectrum of the complaints you have
1:17:17 > 1:17:23received, what sort of things are people saying?We were -- we have
1:17:23 > 1:17:27had more on the harassment side than some of the serious things we saw in
1:17:27 > 1:17:32the film today. They are obviously still incredibly serious cases. I
1:17:32 > 1:17:36suspect that people who have these truly horrendous stories to tell our
1:17:36 > 1:17:40frightened to put it in an e-mail form to anybody, even if it is an
1:17:40 > 1:17:44Marmoz. We have been dealing with cases like this from members for a
1:17:44 > 1:17:50long time. But obviously it takes a lot of guts to come forward with
1:17:50 > 1:17:53something like that. The cases we have dealt with in the past have
1:17:53 > 1:17:59been the tip of the iceberg.Some more messages. When I was six I met
1:17:59 > 1:18:02a very famous singer, who started grooming me. And more importantly,
1:18:02 > 1:18:09my mother, from the minute we met. Jokes about, when you are for Dean,
1:18:09 > 1:18:14I will marry you. And I was 11, he sexually abused me. I screamed at my
1:18:14 > 1:18:21mother that I never wanted to see him again. I now have PTSD and I'm
1:18:21 > 1:18:25freaking out about how to keep my daughters safe. This is particularly
1:18:25 > 1:18:28graphic, so if you have children, you may not want them to listen to
1:18:28 > 1:18:33this. When I was 14 I went to see my favourite band with two school
1:18:33 > 1:18:37friends. The lead singer of the group would insist that I sit on his
1:18:37 > 1:18:41lap. His Venus would press on me and he would beg me for oral six before
1:18:41 > 1:18:48we were collected. I heard from other fans that he had six with
1:18:48 > 1:18:52other teenagers and had passed around sexually transmitted disease.
1:18:52 > 1:18:56I never performed a six act on him. He knew my age and he nicknamed me
1:18:56 > 1:19:05jailbait.See, one of the things that is important, since this whole
1:19:05 > 1:19:14Me Too campaign happened, I talked to a lot of my male colleagues. I
1:19:14 > 1:19:17get reactions from some male colleagues who say, thank God these
1:19:17 > 1:19:23people are now getting their comeuppance. They say, I know there
1:19:23 > 1:19:27are people shaking in their boots at the moment. And good, because they
1:19:27 > 1:19:31should. But then I get other people, in particular some of the old school
1:19:31 > 1:19:38people, who say, you have to understand that there are young
1:19:38 > 1:19:43girls throwing themselves at you. What they need to understand what I
1:19:43 > 1:19:48think is so important to have a code of practice and to explain is the
1:19:48 > 1:19:53reason that we have the laws that we have about age of consent is that
1:19:53 > 1:19:58these young girls do not understand what they are, you know, that these
1:19:58 > 1:20:04men are thinking that, you know, she wants to have six with me. They say
1:20:04 > 1:20:07that they might kind of like being in the surroundings of somebody
1:20:07 > 1:20:16famous, or that the parameters are very different. It is the older
1:20:16 > 1:20:22person that should refrain.They shouldn't break the law.They
1:20:22 > 1:20:34shouldn't break the law. We all know stories about artists back when who
1:20:34 > 1:20:39had 14-year-olds.You sort of thought those days had gone.
1:20:39 > 1:20:43Absolutely. The other thing is that the music managers are the only
1:20:43 > 1:20:46people in the business who have a duty of care. We think the whole
1:20:46 > 1:20:50business should have a duty of care. We also think that our artist should
1:20:50 > 1:20:57be responsible towards their audience. When I have a young male
1:20:57 > 1:21:01band, and this doesn't relate exclusively to women, we have a
1:21:01 > 1:21:08diverse board and I have heard many stories, but I always educate my new
1:21:08 > 1:21:12artists in terms of how to behave with young fans. They have a
1:21:12 > 1:21:18responsibility.We invited UK music, which represents the industry, under
1:21:18 > 1:21:23the programme but they were not able to come. They say, UK music takes
1:21:23 > 1:21:26any allegations very seriously and will offer support to any
1:21:26 > 1:21:30complainant to guide them towards the help and advice they need. Any
1:21:30 > 1:21:33form of abuse or harassment in the music industry should never be
1:21:33 > 1:21:41tolerated. The people who have got in touch with us today with their
1:21:41 > 1:21:47experiences, should they go to the police?I think in some cases they
1:21:47 > 1:21:50should, absolutely. I equally understand how somebody can feel
1:21:50 > 1:21:57they couldn't. Obviously if we have a member come to us with one of
1:21:57 > 1:22:00these issues, we would guide them to go to the police. Lots of people do
1:22:00 > 1:22:06not feel they can. That is why we opened up Aoun -- an anonymous way
1:22:06 > 1:22:09of signposting something that has happened to you. We have had people
1:22:09 > 1:22:12who do not want their stories shared but they have said if this
1:22:12 > 1:22:16particular person gets named in several e-mails, please come back to
1:22:16 > 1:22:20me and perhaps at that point they will feel... I can understand there
1:22:20 > 1:22:31is safety in numbers sometimes.I'm from Sweden. And in Sweden it was
1:22:31 > 1:22:37when the -- were the first Me Too list for the music industry started.
1:22:37 > 1:22:43One person is up on rape charges. These are the most grave cases. It
1:22:43 > 1:22:47is important that we address the whole kind of spectrum. I think one
1:22:47 > 1:22:54of the things that needs to be understood is that in general, for
1:22:54 > 1:23:00some men as well but more for young women in the industry, and I'm not
1:23:00 > 1:23:06talking just underage women, women in their 20s or early 30s, we are in
1:23:06 > 1:23:10a business where you have meetings in unorthodox places. You meet
1:23:10 > 1:23:15people on tour. You might have a meeting in a hotel. You might have a
1:23:15 > 1:23:22meeting over dinner. And in general, if you are a male in the industry,
1:23:22 > 1:23:25it doesn't even cross your mind that you need to be careful in that
1:23:25 > 1:23:33situation. But for women, this has brought -- this is brought to --
1:23:33 > 1:23:37back to me. When I look back, I have just manoeuvred this my entire
1:23:37 > 1:23:42career. Always when I am in a situation along with a male, you
1:23:42 > 1:23:47have to be careful. It's not right and we need to do something about
1:23:47 > 1:23:59it. Thank you for coming in. Thank you.
1:23:59 > 1:24:00Still to come...
1:24:00 > 1:24:03Facebook has admitted for the first time that social media can
1:24:03 > 1:24:05harm mental health - but are advising people
1:24:05 > 1:24:12to improve their low mood by posting more often.
1:24:14 > 1:24:19Gwynne Owen Evans was one of the last two men hanged in Britain.
1:24:19 > 1:24:22A habitual liar convicted of murdering a man who had been his
1:24:22 > 1:24:24friend, and perhaps his lover.
1:24:24 > 1:24:28But according to a leading criminal lawyer, who has viewed documents
1:24:28 > 1:24:35uncovered by the BBC, he was the victim of
1:24:35 > 1:24:36a miscarriage of justice.
1:24:36 > 1:24:42Our reporter Sanchia Berg has been investigating and joins us now.
1:24:42 > 1:24:48Phil us in on the case?Good morning. This is the case of one of
1:24:48 > 1:24:52the last two men hanged in Britain in 1964. This is not the case that
1:24:52 > 1:24:57has had the attention of Derek Bentley, for example. It is not very
1:24:57 > 1:25:03well-known. It was a pretty sordid murder in Cumbria. A man was 53, who
1:25:03 > 1:25:07was a friend of Gwynne Owen Evans, almost certainly his gay lover, he
1:25:07 > 1:25:11was murdered by Evans and by Peter Allen. Evans always said that he
1:25:11 > 1:25:17didn't actually hit his friend, that it was Peter Allen who did the
1:25:17 > 1:25:21hitting. But the two men were tried together. The jury found them both
1:25:21 > 1:25:27guilty. An appeal failed. Even though Gwynne Owen Evans' mother
1:25:27 > 1:25:31wrote to the Home Secretary saying her son was mentally impaired and
1:25:31 > 1:25:36that he had them under a doctor since the age of eight, please spare
1:25:36 > 1:25:39him, the doctors did not find that his mental ability was substantially
1:25:39 > 1:25:45impaired. And that is why the Home Secretary, written in red ink on the
1:25:45 > 1:25:51file, he says the law must take its course. He couldn't find evidence
1:25:51 > 1:25:54for a reprieve. But actually, going through these medical reports,
1:25:54 > 1:25:59looking at the history as a whole, it's very striking that he really
1:25:59 > 1:26:03had a history of serious mental problems. This wasn't taken into
1:26:03 > 1:26:06account. The jury were not made aware of it.
1:26:06 > 1:26:12Let's bring in John Cooper QC. He has been looking through the files.
1:26:12 > 1:26:17What do you think?I have been interested in this case for a few
1:26:17 > 1:26:25years. Santa brought to my attention a number of documents. I have no
1:26:25 > 1:26:28doubt a miscarriage of justice has occurred as far as this man is
1:26:28 > 1:26:32concerned. Let me make it clear, nobody is saying he didn't deserve
1:26:32 > 1:26:38to be punished. He did. The issue is on the defence of diminished
1:26:38 > 1:26:44responsibility. It is a defence which existed then, in a different
1:26:44 > 1:26:48way. It exists now. It is essentially says, not murder, but
1:26:48 > 1:26:57because of your mental functioning, you have a lesser charge.A defence
1:26:57 > 1:27:01that existed them which is legal team did not choose to use. That is
1:27:01 > 1:27:09the issue? Row precisely.If they had used it, you wouldn't have been
1:27:09 > 1:27:14hanged. One of the reasons they didn't choose to use it, and it is
1:27:14 > 1:27:18an analysis many defence teams consider, is to have a defence of
1:27:18 > 1:27:21diminished responsibility you have to admit the defence. You have to
1:27:21 > 1:27:24see my did it but my mental functioning was impaired. I suppose
1:27:24 > 1:27:29the reasoning behind the defence not using it was because they didn't
1:27:29 > 1:27:33want to admit it. But in my opinion, having looked at the documentation,
1:27:33 > 1:27:36this man clearly was suffering from an abnormality of mind, which would
1:27:36 > 1:27:42have afforded a defence. Looking at the papers and the report, very
1:27:42 > 1:27:46little effort was made, in my opinion, to analyse this. The
1:27:46 > 1:27:48reports are cursory and the examination is cursory.
1:27:48 > 1:27:53That is my concern. Thank you. Thank you both.
1:27:53 > 1:27:56Lebanese police say a man has been arrested on suspicion of killing
1:27:56 > 1:28:01a woman who worked at the British embassy in Beirut.
1:28:01 > 1:28:05Rebecca Dykes had been at a leaving party on Friday night.
1:28:05 > 1:28:09Her body was found beside a motorway on the outskirts of the city.
1:28:09 > 1:28:12She's believed to have been strangled.
1:28:12 > 1:28:19Friends and colleagues have been paying tribute to her.
1:28:19 > 1:28:21The British Ambassador to Lebanon, Hugo Shorter tweeted that
1:28:21 > 1:28:24"the whole embassy is deeply shocked, saddened by this news".
1:28:24 > 1:28:26He said: "My thoughts are with Becky's family,
1:28:26 > 1:28:31friends and colleagues for their tragic loss."
1:28:31 > 1:28:33Well, Josie Ensor had been due to attend the leaving
1:28:33 > 1:28:34party on Friday night.
1:28:34 > 1:28:37She told me that Rebecca Dykes left early because she was due to head
1:28:37 > 1:28:41home to Britain for Christmas.
1:28:41 > 1:28:46She was quite new in Beirut, she joined the embassy a few months ago.
1:28:46 > 1:28:49My friends told me that she had just landed on her feet in Beirut
1:28:49 > 1:28:52and she was just starting to make friends and getting
1:28:52 > 1:28:53to know the city.
1:28:53 > 1:28:55So obviously, it is very tragic that it has happened soon
1:28:55 > 1:28:57after she has moved to the city.
1:28:57 > 1:28:58What do you...
1:28:58 > 1:29:03I gather you were invited to the party that she was at on Friday.
1:29:03 > 1:29:05Yeah, it was a mutual friend of ours who works
1:29:05 > 1:29:08for the British Embassy here.
1:29:08 > 1:29:13It was her farewell party in a bar just down the road from me here.
1:29:13 > 1:29:17I had kind of just been leaving my house to go to the party
1:29:17 > 1:29:19when I got a call from work and turned around.
1:29:19 > 1:29:21But yeah, all my friends were there.
1:29:21 > 1:29:22They were chatting to her.
1:29:22 > 1:29:25She was looking forward to going home for Christmas the next
1:29:25 > 1:29:28day to see her family, and that is why she left
1:29:28 > 1:29:28early that night.
1:29:28 > 1:29:30I mean, everybody else left quite late.
1:29:30 > 1:29:34But she left with a friend of mine just before midnight to try to get
1:29:34 > 1:29:36some sleep before her flight home for Christmas on Saturday.
1:29:36 > 1:29:38Tell us about the reaction to what has happened.
1:29:38 > 1:29:42Everyone is incredibly shocked.
1:29:42 > 1:29:45I mean, I know what Beirut has historically been known for,
1:29:45 > 1:29:47for its brutal civil war and its connections to Syria
1:29:47 > 1:29:50and Israel but actually, Beirut itself is a very safe city
1:29:50 > 1:29:54and I feel much safer here than I do walking on my own in London
1:29:54 > 1:29:55or New York or other big cities.
1:29:55 > 1:30:00It is a kind of village city.
1:30:00 > 1:30:02It is a very tight-knit community so when something
1:30:02 > 1:30:05happens to one person, it feels quite close, I think.
1:30:05 > 1:30:08So do you think people will still feel safe
1:30:08 > 1:30:11despite what has happened?
1:30:11 > 1:30:14Yeah, I mean, I was talking to some female friends of mine who have
1:30:14 > 1:30:19lived all over the Middle East and they have felt in danger quite
1:30:19 > 1:30:22a lot in Cairo but they say Beirut is something of an anomaly
1:30:22 > 1:30:24in the region.
1:30:24 > 1:30:27I don't think anyone is going to dramatically change how
1:30:27 > 1:30:30they feel about the city but I do think we might change
1:30:30 > 1:30:34the way we move around, think about our own personal safety.
1:30:34 > 1:30:37I mean, I was hearing that a taxi driver has been arrested this
1:30:37 > 1:30:39morning in connection with the murder so possibly now
1:30:39 > 1:30:45we might not take those kind of licensed local cabs that you kind
1:30:45 > 1:30:49of hail at the side of the road and perhaps take one by calling
1:30:49 > 1:31:02ahead or going with a friend.
1:31:02 > 1:31:08In the next few minutes, the new Bishop of London, the right Reverend
1:31:08 > 1:31:12Sara Mullaly, the most senior woman in the church, is due to give a
1:31:12 > 1:31:15press conference about the fact she has a new role. We will hear from
1:31:15 > 1:31:19her in the next few minutes. We will dip into that news conference when
1:31:19 > 1:31:25it starts. Still to come, we will speak to the 22-year-old student his
1:31:25 > 1:31:28rape trial collapsed after detectives failed to disclose vital
1:31:28 > 1:31:34evidence. Liam Allan tells us exclusively but he wants an apology
1:31:34 > 1:31:38from the police and the CPS. That's in the next 15 minutes. And, we will
1:31:38 > 1:31:41look at what local councils can do to make recycling slightly less
1:31:41 > 1:31:46confusing.
1:31:46 > 1:31:48Time for the latest news - here's Annita.
1:31:48 > 1:31:49The BBC News headlines this morning...
1:31:49 > 1:31:51Senior Cabinet ministers are having formal discussions -
1:31:51 > 1:31:53for the first time - about the the UK's relationship
1:31:53 > 1:32:01with the EU after Brexit.
1:32:01 > 1:32:05The PM will later tell MPs the UK wants to sign trade deals
1:32:05 > 1:32:06during a transition period.
1:32:06 > 1:32:08EU leaders have agreed talks can move on, including
1:32:08 > 1:32:10to discuss a transition deal for a post-Brexit period.
1:32:10 > 1:32:12Labour has raised concerns that trade may not be
1:32:12 > 1:32:17discussed for months.
1:32:17 > 1:32:20Police in Beirut say they have arrested a suspect as part
1:32:20 > 1:32:22of the investigation into the murder of a British embassy worker whose
1:32:22 > 1:32:25body was found by the side of a motorway.
1:32:25 > 1:32:27Rebecca Dykes was working in the capital city of Beirut
1:32:27 > 1:32:29for the Department for International Development.
1:32:29 > 1:32:31It's thought she had been abducted and strangled
1:32:31 > 1:32:36after leaving a party.
1:32:36 > 1:32:39The family of a taxi driver who was among six people killed
1:32:39 > 1:32:42in a road accident in Birmingham yesterday, have described him
1:32:42 > 1:32:43as "happy" and "loving".
1:32:43 > 1:32:45Imtiaz Mohammed and his two passengers all died,
1:32:45 > 1:32:46alongside three men in another car.
1:32:46 > 1:32:49Crash investigators are trying to piece together
1:32:49 > 1:32:55what caused the pile-up.
1:32:55 > 1:33:00A former NHS chief nurse has been named as the next Bishop of London,
1:33:00 > 1:33:04the third most senior position in the Church of England. Right
1:33:04 > 1:33:08reverend Sara Mullaly is currently a bishop in Devon, she became a priest
1:33:08 > 1:33:15in 2006 and has spent more than 35 years in the NHS. She was made a
1:33:15 > 1:33:18Dame in 2005 for services to nursing and will be the most senior woman in
1:33:18 > 1:33:23the church and will have a seat in the House of Lords.
1:33:23 > 1:33:26The four time Olympic champion, Sir Mo Farah, has won this year's
1:33:26 > 1:33:27BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
1:33:27 > 1:33:29Motorcyclist Jonathan Rea was second, and paralympic sprinter,
1:33:29 > 1:33:31Jonnie Peacock, was third.
1:33:31 > 1:33:35He was honoured at an evening in celebration in Liverpool. Dangerous
1:33:35 > 1:33:40cat Ennis received a Lifetime Achievement Award. Here's some of
1:33:40 > 1:33:51the highlights from the evening... It is showtime... The famous trophy
1:33:51 > 1:33:56has come north from Wimbledon and the biggest names are here to see
1:33:56 > 1:34:03who will be crowned the BBC sports personality of the year.I was proud
1:34:03 > 1:34:07of him as a person and how he dealt with everything. And how he put
1:34:07 > 1:34:19others first before himself. I was so proud of my baby.I am slightly
1:34:19 > 1:34:24overwhelmed but I am absolutely honoured to receive this on behalf
1:34:24 > 1:34:41of Bradley.Our 2017 lifetime achievement award winner, Dame
1:34:41 > 1:34:44Jessica Ennis-Hill.I am honoured to stand here with these inspiring
1:34:44 > 1:34:48women, and in a room full of legends. It is unbelievable.You
1:34:48 > 1:34:51have left no stone unturned, and you can have no regrets with that
1:34:51 > 1:34:58career.LAUGHTER Did you get any of that?I didn't,
1:34:58 > 1:35:07sorry!Daddy!You have been marvellous!In 2017, the BBC sports
1:35:07 > 1:35:19personality of the Year is... Mo Farah.Please don't tell me... He's
1:35:19 > 1:35:30gone to bed!No!Fall of the youngsters and people out there. You
1:35:30 > 1:35:34can work hard. You can achieve your dreams. Anything is possible in
1:35:34 > 1:35:38life.Congratulations to him.
1:35:38 > 1:35:39Here's some sport now with Holly Hamilton.
1:35:39 > 1:35:42Coming up in sport - Australia crush England in the third
1:35:42 > 1:35:44Test at the Waca to wrap up the Ashes Series 3-0.
1:35:44 > 1:35:47England needed to bat throughout the final day of the third Test
1:35:47 > 1:35:50in Perth to force a draw - and keep the series alive.
1:35:50 > 1:35:56But they lost the game by an innings and 41 runs.
1:35:56 > 1:35:58Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers says their 69-game unbeaten domestic
1:35:58 > 1:36:01run may never be surpassed by another team after his side
1:36:01 > 1:36:05were thrashed 4-0 at Hearts.
1:36:05 > 1:36:07Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho says his side
1:36:07 > 1:36:10will "fight until the last match" after they moved back to within 11
1:36:10 > 1:36:12points of Premier League leaders Manchester City by beating West Brom
1:36:12 > 1:36:172-1.
1:36:17 > 1:36:19And European Champions Saracens look like they'll now need
1:36:19 > 1:36:22to try to reach the quarterfinals as one of three best Pool runners-up
1:36:22 > 1:36:25after losing 24-21 to group leaders Clemont Auvergne in France.
1:36:25 > 1:36:27Those are you headlines - I'll have more reaction to that
1:36:27 > 1:36:37Ashes result coming up at 11 o'clock.
1:36:37 > 1:36:38Thank you.
1:36:38 > 1:36:41Facebook has acknowledged for the first time that social media
1:36:41 > 1:36:44can harm mental health - but says users can improve their low
1:36:44 > 1:36:48mood by posting more often.
1:36:48 > 1:36:53We can talk now to Tom Burridge, who's been looking into this story.
1:36:53 > 1:36:57What have they said?It is interesting, it's the first time
1:36:57 > 1:37:01that Facebook had said that excessive use of social media can
1:37:01 > 1:37:05lead to a lot of problems, that has been detailed by academics, like
1:37:05 > 1:37:11anxiety, depression, body image issues, sleep issues, you can also
1:37:11 > 1:37:16get FOMO, a fear of missing out. You see what a great time people say
1:37:16 > 1:37:23they are having. And you think, maybe my life isn't so great?
1:37:23 > 1:37:27Facebook say that the solution isn't that we should use Facebook less but
1:37:27 > 1:37:32what we should do is more quality time on Facebook. What they say is,
1:37:32 > 1:37:37what you need to do is unique to socially interact. It is more
1:37:37 > 1:37:40messages, send direct messages to your real friends and your
1:37:40 > 1:37:48colleagues. More posts, one-on-one, between people. The jargon they use
1:37:48 > 1:37:53is "Meaningful social interactions". Do more of that. As opposed to
1:37:53 > 1:37:57passively consuming what everyone else is doing?Browsing along,
1:37:57 > 1:38:02low-level content, and perhaps the odd "Like" idly about something but
1:38:02 > 1:38:06not social engagement with people that you are friends with on
1:38:06 > 1:38:10Facebook.So they are definitely not saying spend less time on Facebook?
1:38:10 > 1:38:13They are coming up with some concrete steps they are taking. To
1:38:13 > 1:38:16their credit they are saying that they would change the platform
1:38:16 > 1:38:21itself in a few ways. They will get rid of what they call "Click bait
1:38:21 > 1:38:26headlines". Those are the links which pop up on certain websites
1:38:26 > 1:38:30that you see, they are often salacious or almost ridiculous,
1:38:30 > 1:38:33often fake news and they are designed to be irresistible so that
1:38:33 > 1:38:39you click on them and go to a company's website. Optimise your
1:38:39 > 1:38:45feed so that in theory, your best friends will pop up more. They will
1:38:45 > 1:38:54bring in a new snooze option, rather than de-friend someone, you cannot
1:38:54 > 1:38:59be friends with someone for a period of time, and they say that taking
1:38:59 > 1:39:02measures to prevent suicide, what they are doing is working with
1:39:02 > 1:39:06companies and organisations around the world to identify people
1:39:06 > 1:39:15explicitly talking about the idea of taking one's own life, they are
1:39:15 > 1:39:19using artificial intelligence, they say, jargon for computer algorithms,
1:39:19 > 1:39:24to look at less explicit references by people about the idea of
1:39:24 > 1:39:29committing suicide. There is also the issue of children. Every parent
1:39:29 > 1:39:33grapples with excessive social media use with their children. All of the
1:39:33 > 1:39:40issues that can bring up about forging relationships and
1:39:40 > 1:39:44concentration. In that sense, Facebook is saying that they will
1:39:44 > 1:39:48invest money and do more research, $1 million, but they are not coming
1:39:48 > 1:39:52up with concrete steps in that yet. They say they do not have the
1:39:52 > 1:39:56answers about that yet. They cannot really say they should use social
1:39:56 > 1:40:01media less, because they are a company, it would be a technical
1:40:01 > 1:40:09turkey voting for Christmas.Thank you.
1:40:09 > 1:40:13A 22-year-old student whose rape trial collapsed after detectives
1:40:13 > 1:40:16failed to disclose vital evidence to the defence has told this
1:40:16 > 1:40:18programme he wants an apology from police and the CPS.
1:40:18 > 1:40:21Liam Allan was charged with 12 counts of rape and sexual assault,
1:40:21 > 1:40:23but his trial collapsed after police were ordered
1:40:23 > 1:40:30to hand over phone records.
1:40:30 > 1:40:33In an interview alongside his mum, Lorraine, he tells us his life
1:40:33 > 1:40:35has "ripped apart" by what had happened to him.
1:40:35 > 1:40:37It emerged last week that the case against Mr Allan was dropped,
1:40:37 > 1:40:40when evidence on a computer disk containing 40,000 text and whatsapp
1:40:40 > 1:40:43messages revealed the alleged victim pestered him for "casual sex".
1:40:43 > 1:40:45The Met Police say it is "urgently reviewing' the way
1:40:45 > 1:40:47the investigation was handled.
1:40:47 > 1:40:50I've been speaking to Liam Allan and his mum, and asked him
1:40:50 > 1:40:53if the police had been in touch with him since his case collapsed.
1:40:53 > 1:40:54There's been no direct contact.
1:40:54 > 1:40:57Nothing? No.
1:40:57 > 1:41:00What do you think of that? It's disappointing, naturally.
1:41:00 > 1:41:03Obviously, it does not take too long to send an apology or anything
1:41:03 > 1:41:08like that or just get in contact and let me know what is going on.
1:41:08 > 1:41:11But I understand, you know, that they might not want to speak
1:41:11 > 1:41:14to me right now, given that they don't really know what has
1:41:14 > 1:41:17gone wrong in terms of completely, it was the whole system.
1:41:17 > 1:41:20I do understand that they are reviewing things so I am trying
1:41:20 > 1:41:21to be understanding in that respect.
1:41:21 > 1:41:23But that is what you would like, an apology?
1:41:23 > 1:41:24Realistically...
1:41:24 > 1:41:26Yeah, an apology would be nice.
1:41:26 > 1:41:27Why is that important to you?
1:41:27 > 1:41:28Just, I don't know.
1:41:28 > 1:41:31It sort of accepts responsibility, I suppose, and it does show remorse.
1:41:31 > 1:41:37I've seen a lot of people's comments on articles saying there is no
1:41:37 > 1:41:40remorse from the police or the CPS.
1:41:40 > 1:41:43I know there is but obviously, I can't prove it if I haven't
1:41:43 > 1:41:44had anything myself.
1:41:44 > 1:41:47You have had the weekend now to absorb what has happened to you.
1:41:47 > 1:41:50You could have potentially been found guilty of six rapes
1:41:54 > 1:41:57You could have been sent to jail for over a decade and you could have
1:41:57 > 1:41:59been on the sex offenders register for life.
1:41:59 > 1:42:01How are you feeling about it now?
1:42:01 > 1:42:04There's relief on one side in terms of the case is over.
1:42:04 > 1:42:06As in, I'm not, you know, the suspect or I'm not
1:42:06 > 1:42:08standing trial any more so there is relief, there.
1:42:08 > 1:42:11With the publicity, I mean, it has been huge, and a different
1:42:11 > 1:42:13kind of stress in terms of that now.
1:42:13 > 1:42:16And there is still another bout to go through in terms
1:42:16 > 1:42:18of compensation and suing, going from there, really.
1:42:18 > 1:42:20It is not over completely.
1:42:20 > 1:42:26Just I am not the one standing trial any more.
1:42:26 > 1:42:28What do you think would be adequate compensation
1:42:28 > 1:42:29for what you have endured?
1:42:29 > 1:42:30I don't know.
1:42:30 > 1:42:33I have said this so many times that university is supposed to be
1:42:33 > 1:42:38the best years of your life, and the last two years have just
1:42:38 > 1:42:40been spent worrying and not really concentrating on anything.
1:42:40 > 1:42:42It has completely ripped apart my normal personal life
1:42:42 > 1:42:45and now it has come to light, it is still going on and obviously,
1:42:45 > 1:42:49the longer we have to wait in terms of going for compensation and things
1:42:49 > 1:42:52like that, you know, the more stress it still is because I'm still away
1:42:52 > 1:42:54from uni and still away from my normal life.
1:42:54 > 1:42:55Everything is still upside down.
1:42:55 > 1:42:58But as I said, I'm not standing trial any more but there
1:42:58 > 1:43:00is still emotional stress there.
1:43:00 > 1:43:03Lorraine, how has it been for you as Liam's mum,
1:43:03 > 1:43:11the last couple of years while he has been on bail?
1:43:11 > 1:43:12Difficult.
1:43:12 > 1:43:14I suppose that is a bit of an understatement.
1:43:14 > 1:43:16You never want to see your child goes through it.
1:43:16 > 1:43:20It is not something you could prevent.
1:43:20 > 1:43:23You know, you can educate your daughters of the dangers of putting
1:43:23 > 1:43:29yourself in difficult positions, things to watch out for.
1:43:29 > 1:43:32You can educate your sons, as I feel I have, on respect and how
1:43:32 > 1:43:35to look after people, not harming people.
1:43:35 > 1:43:39You can't protect yourself against something like this.
1:43:39 > 1:43:42I think this is part of why it is felt by a lot of people,
1:43:42 > 1:43:45you know, and you see a lot of people saying it
1:43:45 > 1:43:49can happen to anyone.
1:43:49 > 1:43:53There seems to be...
1:43:53 > 1:43:55There's a lot more than just text messages and things that
1:43:55 > 1:43:58were factors to the case.
1:43:58 > 1:44:02You know, the amount of support that I found very overwhelming
1:44:02 > 1:44:07during the time and even now, the support we have had,
1:44:07 > 1:44:12there's no way we could have got through it without that.
1:44:12 > 1:44:15As a woman, you do, when someone comes, does this type of thing,
1:44:15 > 1:44:18your instinct is to want to believe because I think that is where I have
1:44:18 > 1:44:22spent a lot of my time, trying to get my head around why
1:44:22 > 1:44:28someone would lie about this.
1:44:28 > 1:44:32It just didn't make any sense at all.
1:44:32 > 1:44:34Obviously, they have their own reasons.
1:44:34 > 1:44:38But that was a real struggle.
1:44:38 > 1:44:41There were people that I knew that knew Liam,
1:44:41 > 1:44:43who would automatically, you know, know and realise this
1:44:43 > 1:44:48does not seem possible.
1:44:48 > 1:44:51There were other people that don't know my son,
1:44:51 > 1:44:54that have only had my word, that if I wanted to say
1:44:54 > 1:44:56or talk about anything we were going through,
1:44:56 > 1:45:00I would struggle a little bit because I would feel I would be
1:45:00 > 1:45:02putting them in an awkward position, to make a judgment without any
1:45:02 > 1:45:04sort of basis to it.
1:45:04 > 1:45:05Without any context?
1:45:05 > 1:45:08As a mother, you are going to protect your child,
1:45:08 > 1:45:12that is how everyone sees it.
1:45:12 > 1:45:15In some ways I felt that even though I'm sitting there,
1:45:15 > 1:45:18saying, "I know it is not possible, this is not my son",
1:45:18 > 1:45:20everyone is going to look at me and say, "Well,
1:45:20 > 1:45:24you are a mother".
1:45:24 > 1:45:24should
1:45:24 > 1:45:27Liam, you must have thought often about why this woman made up these
1:45:27 > 1:45:28allegations about you.
1:45:28 > 1:45:32Why do you think?
1:45:32 > 1:45:35From what I can gather, part of it is spite.
1:45:35 > 1:45:39But obviously, anything that I say is speculating, really.
1:45:39 > 1:45:41For me, I can't really comprehend why you would want
1:45:41 > 1:45:43to do that to somebody in the first place anyway.
1:45:43 > 1:45:47It seems it just started off as a little white lie and then
1:45:47 > 1:45:51as soon as that starts, where it is so serious, it is not
1:45:51 > 1:45:53something you can go back on.
1:45:53 > 1:45:56You know, we all tell little white lies but not on that scale,
1:45:56 > 1:45:57not on such a series topic.
1:45:57 > 1:45:59Do you think she should be prosecuted for that?
1:45:59 > 1:46:05I'm going to leave that decision to somebody else, if I'm honest.
1:46:05 > 1:46:09You know, I think I am biased in terms of the emotional side of it
1:46:09 > 1:46:11and so it is not my decision to make from here.
1:46:11 > 1:46:13That is somebody else's decision to make.
1:46:13 > 1:46:14Do you, Lorraine?
1:46:14 > 1:46:21I think honestly, I think she may need help.
1:46:21 > 1:46:25With all the things that we have seen, the support has been
1:46:25 > 1:46:26really positive for us.
1:46:26 > 1:46:29I am so grateful for that.
1:46:29 > 1:46:31Seeing some of the comments that are so negative,
1:46:31 > 1:46:32I am fearful for her.
1:46:32 > 1:46:33You have sympathy for her?
1:46:33 > 1:46:35There is sympathy there.
1:46:35 > 1:46:41I know that sounds really strange.
1:46:41 > 1:46:45I think, no, probably, not through the case or the trial, no.
1:46:45 > 1:46:50With the media attention, it has changed it a little bit.
1:46:50 > 1:46:56You know, I am trying to picture what, as a parent,
1:46:56 > 1:47:00either side of the fence, there is pain, frustration.
1:47:00 > 1:47:02She has a family.
1:47:02 > 1:47:05I don't think anyone, for all of the comments they make
1:47:05 > 1:47:07and judgments they make around these kind of cases, actually take
1:47:07 > 1:47:12into account the impact it has on everybody else around them.
1:47:12 > 1:47:17Why do you think the police and CPS did not disclose any of those 40,000
1:47:17 > 1:47:22messages which in the end proved your innocence?
1:47:22 > 1:47:26I wouldn't know why.
1:47:26 > 1:47:29I mean, it could be a mistake.
1:47:29 > 1:47:32It could have just been, you know, "I don't have enough time
1:47:32 > 1:47:35to read 47,000 messages", which, you know, for me,
1:47:35 > 1:47:39something this serious, obviously, other people have gone
1:47:39 > 1:47:42through the same sort of thing, your life is on hold so there isn't...
1:47:42 > 1:47:45You know, I would quite happily have waited an extra month and gone
1:47:45 > 1:47:48for an extra month if it meant they would have read them properly.
1:47:48 > 1:47:50This could all have been avoided.
1:47:50 > 1:47:53There would have been an extra month to save another eight or nine months
1:47:53 > 1:47:55waiting for a trial.
1:47:55 > 1:47:58I think they are under a lot of pressure, especially given how
1:47:58 > 1:48:00much media attention there is around the topic.
1:48:00 > 1:48:02But you don't think it was malicious?
1:48:02 > 1:48:03It's...
1:48:03 > 1:48:07I find it hard to believe it was malicious.
1:48:07 > 1:48:09But thank goodness for the prosecuting barrister
1:48:09 > 1:48:14who was insistent that they should be disclosed in the end
1:48:14 > 1:48:17because he had been fobbed off once, told that they were not relevant,
1:48:17 > 1:48:19or they could not be disclosed because they contained
1:48:19 > 1:48:20"very personal material".
1:48:20 > 1:48:22And they were not relevant, there was nothing capable
1:48:22 > 1:48:25of undermining the prosecution case or assisting the defence.
1:48:25 > 1:48:28I mean, I think there's a lot of credit, in terms of...
1:48:28 > 1:48:33This is why I consider myself lucky.
1:48:33 > 1:48:36The judge handled it so well in terms of from a neutral point
1:48:36 > 1:48:39of view and that was really nice to sort of see, you know,
1:48:39 > 1:48:41you don't feel quite so alone in that respect.
1:48:41 > 1:48:43Obviously, the prosecutor we got, he was extremely understanding
1:48:43 > 1:48:49that we should have that information but I have got to give full credit
1:48:49 > 1:48:54to my barrister, Julius Marr, and Simone from the law firm,
1:48:54 > 1:48:56for their persistence, genuinely, their attitude has
1:48:56 > 1:49:00been absolutely amazing.
1:49:00 > 1:49:03There is nobody else like them, for me and I owe my life to them,
1:49:03 > 1:49:06to them all, equally, to be fair.
1:49:06 > 1:49:09I'm going to read a couple of the messages out so the audience
1:49:09 > 1:49:12can see how vital they were showing that you were completely innocent.
1:49:12 > 1:49:15September 2015, your accuser sent a message to a friend
1:49:15 > 1:49:21discussing her sex life with you.
1:49:21 > 1:49:25"It wasn't against my will or anything".
1:49:25 > 1:49:28And another which was relevant, it has been reported because she has
1:49:28 > 1:49:31claimed to the police that she did not like being intimate
1:49:31 > 1:49:33with men, "People need three things in life,
1:49:33 > 1:49:35food, water and sex".
1:49:35 > 1:49:37And another, "Sometimes, sex is the number-one priority.
1:49:37 > 1:49:41I'm really not joking, to be honest".
1:49:41 > 1:49:43According to your solicitor, there could be other cases,
1:49:43 > 1:49:47other miscarriages of justice, people in jail now where
1:49:47 > 1:49:49evidence that would have proved their innocence has
1:49:49 > 1:49:50not been disclosed.
1:49:50 > 1:49:53I think, yeah, I think that is what I have said,
1:49:53 > 1:49:56you can't really stop false accusations and people do
1:49:56 > 1:49:59have a spiteful side and when people are hurt, they react in a way
1:49:59 > 1:50:02you would not really expect.
1:50:02 > 1:50:05We rely on the procedure to find the right sort of things.
1:50:05 > 1:50:09As far as I'm aware, if I've been through it,
1:50:09 > 1:50:12then I'm not the only one, just because I am the one
1:50:12 > 1:50:15in the media right now, it definitely does not mean I'm
1:50:15 > 1:50:17the only one that has been through it so I think there
1:50:17 > 1:50:19are people going through it now.
1:50:19 > 1:50:22You know, that is the aim now, the procedure may need to change
1:50:22 > 1:50:25in order to make sure that this does not happen again but for the people
1:50:25 > 1:50:28that are going through it now, you know, can that change?
1:50:28 > 1:50:29Reviews of other cases might happen.
1:50:29 > 1:50:31Yeah.
1:50:31 > 1:50:33But the third step is making sure that the procedure changes
1:50:33 > 1:50:36in the right direction so you know what you're looking for.
1:50:36 > 1:50:39And not just in sexual offences cases, but in all cases.
1:50:39 > 1:50:40Yeah.
1:50:40 > 1:50:44Just to say, there's a tiny percentage of false allegations
1:50:44 > 1:50:47when it comes to crimes of a sexual offences nature.
1:50:47 > 1:50:49I want to read you a statement from the CPS, who said,
1:50:49 > 1:50:52"We will now be conducting a management review, together
1:50:52 > 1:50:56with the Metropolitan Police, to examine the way in
1:50:56 > 1:50:58which the case was handled".
1:50:58 > 1:51:02What is your view of that?
1:51:02 > 1:51:05To be fair, I have been quite clear in this respect.
1:51:05 > 1:51:08I completely understand they have to do their internal investigation.
1:51:08 > 1:51:12I mean, some people that will have known about the case need to learn
1:51:12 > 1:51:14a lot about what went wrong, where they went wrong.
1:51:14 > 1:51:15There's gaps everywhere.
1:51:15 > 1:51:16It isn't necessarily just disclosure.
1:51:16 > 1:51:18The evidence was there through the whole process.
1:51:18 > 1:51:22But do you trust the CPS and the police doing their own
1:51:22 > 1:51:25review into what went wrong at the CPS and the police?
1:51:25 > 1:51:27Initially, yeah, but I mean, I've said it before,
1:51:27 > 1:51:32I would love to sit down with them, you know, and maybe there's a few
1:51:32 > 1:51:36other people like me that would love to sit down with them and say,
1:51:36 > 1:51:38"You give us your step-by-step procedure and we will compare it
1:51:38 > 1:51:42with what we went through and we can tell you exactly where the holes
1:51:42 > 1:51:43are, from our personal experience".
1:51:43 > 1:51:46You know, there are going to be holes in other people's experiences
1:51:46 > 1:51:49that I would not have experienced so there are other people out there.
1:51:49 > 1:51:52At the moment, the spotlight is on my case but there
1:51:52 > 1:51:53are other voices out there.
1:51:53 > 1:51:55I mean, I've heard loads of other people's stories.
1:51:55 > 1:51:58You know, it is possible to sit us all down in the same room
1:51:58 > 1:52:01with the same sort of people and get the personal side of it
1:52:01 > 1:52:03as well as the professional side.
1:52:03 > 1:52:08That was Liam Allan and his mother speaking to us this morning.
1:52:08 > 1:52:13mark says, I have also been the victim of false rape allegations.As
1:52:13 > 1:52:16an adult with young children at the time, I was thrown out of my family
1:52:16 > 1:52:19home for the duration of the investigation, eight months. I can
1:52:19 > 1:52:27only see my children for one hour a week in a dirty contact centre. It
1:52:27 > 1:52:32was plastered all over the local paper. It caused absolute panic
1:52:32 > 1:52:36among all farm -- families who knew me. During my three day trial I was
1:52:36 > 1:52:40again plastered all over the papers as a rapist and the story was
1:52:40 > 1:52:45repeated every hour on local radio. The fallout from me has been the
1:52:45 > 1:52:50loss of my family, marriage, business, friends and my children,
1:52:50 > 1:52:52who will have nothing to do with me at all.
1:52:52 > 1:52:54A plan for reducing plastic waste is to be announced
1:52:54 > 1:53:00by the government in the New Year.
1:53:00 > 1:53:03Earlier this month we highlighted how much of a problem plastics
1:53:03 > 1:53:04can be in our oceans:
1:53:04 > 1:53:07By 2050, there will be more plastic than fish in the sea,
1:53:07 > 1:53:09according to the World Economic Forum.
1:53:09 > 1:53:1380% of all the litter in the ocean is plastic.
1:53:13 > 1:53:17Last year, more than 7 billion people worldwide produced over
1:53:17 > 1:53:18300 million tonnes of plastic.
1:53:18 > 1:53:22Ships are banned from dumping plastic overboard but there is no
1:53:22 > 1:53:27international law against plastics flooding into the sea from the land.
1:53:27 > 1:53:30China, Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines are responsible
1:53:30 > 1:53:36for much of the world's Ocean plastic pollution.
1:53:36 > 1:53:42As well as bottles, drinking straws, micro beads and polystyrene boxes,
1:53:42 > 1:53:44it is estimated there are 640,000 tonnes of abandoned fishing
1:53:44 > 1:53:47nets on the ocean floor.
1:53:47 > 1:53:50There are severe consequences for marine animals who choke
1:53:50 > 1:53:54on the plastic and have their habitats destroyed.
1:53:54 > 1:53:58Sunlight breaks the plastic into small pieces which fish and sea
1:53:58 > 1:54:02birds mistake for food and ingest and that threatens the food
1:54:02 > 1:54:03supply for humans as well.
1:54:03 > 1:54:06Campaigners want a Paris climate style deal with countries agreeing
1:54:06 > 1:54:14long-term goals and zero tolerance.
1:54:14 > 1:54:20We can speak now to Professor of Marine Biology, Richard Thompson,
1:54:20 > 1:54:22and Claire Wallerstein who heads up
1:54:22 > 1:54:25a beach cleaning group in Cornwall
1:54:25 > 1:54:33How bad is it and what do you think of this 4-point plan?I think it is
1:54:33 > 1:54:38a good plan in essence. The devil will be in the detail. It is
1:54:38 > 1:54:40essential to think about reducing particularly the amount of single
1:54:40 > 1:54:46use plastic. 40% of all the plastic items we produce our single use
1:54:46 > 1:54:53items. We find a lot on our shorelines. It is important. The
1:54:53 > 1:54:56solutions are already Highridge and in the recommendations to nothing --
1:54:56 > 1:55:06to increase emotive recycling. That is positive. Also, it will make
1:55:06 > 1:55:10things less consuming -- confusing for the consumer. It is important we
1:55:10 > 1:55:16start in the UK. Yes, there are our problems in the far east with
1:55:16 > 1:55:20developing nations. But we have problems in the UK and Europe.
1:55:20 > 1:55:25Claire, what is it like on the beaches of Cornwall where you work?
1:55:25 > 1:55:29I would agree with what Richard said. It is not just a problem on
1:55:29 > 1:55:33the other side of the world. You get them on the beaches in Cornwall and
1:55:33 > 1:55:37you can see the evidence for yourself. We cover just a couple of
1:55:37 > 1:55:40miles of Cornish coastline and we remove hundreds of sacks of plastic
1:55:40 > 1:55:45from those beaches every year. The Marine wildlife is suffering from
1:55:45 > 1:55:51some early problems from climate change, overfishing. When you find
1:55:51 > 1:55:55animals that have died needlessly because of our throwaway consumer
1:55:55 > 1:55:58plastic, that is absolutely heartbreaking. We do see that. We
1:55:58 > 1:56:03find birds with their legs tangled together. A huge number of Cornish
1:56:03 > 1:56:06seals have got plastic and tangled around their necks. Over a third of
1:56:06 > 1:56:14the fish have got plastic in their guts. It is happening here.The kind
1:56:14 > 1:56:20of things you find on the beach includes what?Predominantly we get
1:56:20 > 1:56:23a lot of fishing gear. But really the major thing is the throwaway
1:56:23 > 1:56:28consumer stuff that Richard was talking about. Plastic is an amazing
1:56:28 > 1:56:32material. It has revolutionised our lives. It is designed to last
1:56:32 > 1:56:39forever. We are using almost half of it for items that will be used for a
1:56:39 > 1:56:45few minutes and thrown away. It's crazy. We focus on plastic and
1:56:45 > 1:56:50bottle tops. We collected 65,003 months. We strung them together into
1:56:50 > 1:56:54a chain that stretched over one kilometre long. That shows you the
1:56:54 > 1:56:58impact of the throwaway consumer stuff, which is what we need to
1:56:58 > 1:57:02tackle.Richard, can we work with plastic in other ways to help fix
1:57:02 > 1:57:06the environmental problems?I believe this is a problem we can
1:57:06 > 1:57:11fix. If you think about the many benefits of plastic, and that
1:57:11 > 1:57:15includes packaging, it is not coupled to this emission to the
1:57:15 > 1:57:19environment. It is different to many of the other challenges. It is about
1:57:19 > 1:57:23using plastics differently and more smartly. By doing so I believe we
1:57:23 > 1:57:28can solve the problem.How do we do that?We need to do some of the
1:57:28 > 1:57:34things outlined in the proposal. Recycle more, make it much simpler
1:57:34 > 1:57:36to recycle. One of the recommendations is to cut the number
1:57:36 > 1:57:42of plastics. What is being suggested is that we reduce the diversity, to
1:57:42 > 1:57:45increase the potential for recycling. I was at a recycling
1:57:45 > 1:57:50plant recently. Some of our most recyclable poly- Ma was undetectable
1:57:50 > 1:57:56because of the complete lack of thought in the design studies that
1:57:56 > 1:58:01sliced high-value plastic. It is about taking a back to the drawing
1:58:01 > 1:58:05board, to think about this much more clearly at the design stage, to
1:58:05 > 1:58:09minimise the use of plastics, particularly in single use
1:58:09 > 1:58:19applications. Designer for a replay -- to be you both.
1:58:19 > 1:58:21Thank you for your time.
1:58:21 > 1:58:24On the programme tomorrow - we look at how sex education
1:58:24 > 1:58:26guidelines will be updated to deal with online pornography and sexting.
1:58:26 > 1:58:29Thank you very much for your