21/12/2017

0:00:05 > 0:00:07Hello, it's 9.00.

0:00:07 > 0:00:09I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

0:00:09 > 0:00:10Welcome to the programme.

0:00:10 > 0:00:13Theresa May sacks her closest political ally and deputy,

0:00:13 > 0:00:16Damian Green, after a government inquiry found he made

0:00:16 > 0:00:18"inaccurate and misleading" statements about pornography

0:00:18 > 0:00:26on his office computer.

0:00:26 > 0:00:31As Damian Green is forced to go, he says he's done nothing wrong and

0:00:31 > 0:00:34doesn't recognise the claims of inappropriate behaviour and regrets

0:00:34 > 0:00:41being asked to quit.

0:00:41 > 0:00:42We'll get reaction through the morning.

0:00:42 > 0:00:45Plus - Kaci Sullivan from Missouri gave birth five years ago,

0:00:45 > 0:00:47and then began to transition to become a man.

0:00:47 > 0:00:48Last month he gave birth again.

0:00:48 > 0:00:52We'll speak to him in his first broadcast interview here in the UK.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55I finally had a Caesarean section at about 2.00pm yesterday, so

0:00:55 > 0:01:05baby is not quite 24-hour is old, yet.

0:01:06 > 0:01:14The kindness of strangers. Here is a man giving a TV set and stand to go

0:01:14 > 0:01:18with it to a man selling the big issue with only a few days to go

0:01:18 > 0:01:30before Christmas. We will be looking into acts of kindness by strangers.

0:01:30 > 0:01:36Hello...

0:01:36 > 0:01:39Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41a heads up that later we're expecting confirmation that

0:01:41 > 0:01:45Birmingham has been chosen to host the Commonwealth Games in 2022.

0:01:45 > 0:01:52It was the only city bidding. So if it doesn't get it officially, that

0:01:52 > 0:01:55will be a massive story.

0:01:55 > 0:01:57We'll bring you reaction to that obviously.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59Also today, we want to hear your "breaking news" from 2017 -

0:01:59 > 0:02:01something that's happened in your own life this year.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05Lydia tweeted me - she's had a hec of a year.

0:02:05 > 0:02:06One, started cancer treatment.

0:02:06 > 0:02:07Two, bought a house.

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Three, treatment didn't work.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12Four, hysterectomy.

0:02:12 > 0:02:13Five, moved to London.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16Six, new job.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19And she adds drily - I'm hoping 2018 will have less

0:02:19 > 0:02:21breaking news.

0:02:21 > 0:02:25Let me know your breaking news from 2017, whatever it may be.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28Tweet me - use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text,

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0:02:31 > 0:02:32Our top story today...

0:02:32 > 0:02:35Prime Minister Theresa May has sacked Damian Green

0:02:35 > 0:02:38as First Secretary of State amid claims that pornographic

0:02:38 > 0:02:41material was found on a Commons computer in 2008.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44The Prime Minister expressed "deep regret" at Mr Green's departure

0:02:44 > 0:02:47but said his actions "fell short" of the conduct expected

0:02:47 > 0:02:49of a cabinet minister.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53Alex Forsyth reports.

0:02:53 > 0:02:56Side by side, yesterday, the Prime Minister and her close

0:02:56 > 0:03:02ally, Damian Green, her deputy in all but name, but hours

0:03:02 > 0:03:05after they sat together in the Commons, he was sacked.

0:03:05 > 0:03:07It stems back to a police raid on Mr Green's Parliamentary

0:03:07 > 0:03:12offices years ago.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15Officers said legal pornography was found on computers.

0:03:15 > 0:03:19Mr Green has always and still denies that it was his, but he also said

0:03:19 > 0:03:22that he had not been told about this, and it wasn't right.

0:03:22 > 0:03:27He has now admitted that the lease lawyers talked to his lawyers

0:03:27 > 0:03:32in 2008, and police raised it with him in 2013.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34He said, I apologise that my statements were

0:03:34 > 0:03:37misleading on this point.

0:03:37 > 0:03:41It's that breach of the ministerial code that has cost him his job.

0:03:41 > 0:03:43There were also claims from this activist about

0:03:43 > 0:03:48inappropriate behaviour.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51Her account was said to be plausible, but there was no clear

0:03:51 > 0:03:55conclusion about what had happened.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58Mr Green apologised for making her feel uncomfortable,

0:03:58 > 0:03:59but denied wrongdoing.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02In a letter to Mr Green, Theresa May said that she was extremely

0:04:02 > 0:04:06sad at having to write regarding his resignation.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08She has lost a long-term friend, and confidant

0:04:08 > 0:04:11from her Cabinet table.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14Some said her decision showed strength.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17I don't think this is damaging to the Prime Minister at all,

0:04:17 > 0:04:20because she has made the decision, you know.

0:04:20 > 0:04:24It shows that even if someone is a close ally, she is able to make

0:04:24 > 0:04:29the decision and urged him to take the decision himself and step down.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32I think it shows that she is not prepared to cover someone,

0:04:32 > 0:04:36if she feels that they didn't answer the questions as they should have.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39Nonetheless, the Prime Minister will no doubt feel the loss of such

0:04:39 > 0:04:45a trusted ally in her team.

0:04:45 > 0:04:50Let's get the latest from our political guru, Norman Smith.

0:04:50 > 0:04:56How damaging is this for Theresa May?She has lost a third cabinet

0:04:56 > 0:05:00minister in the space of eight weeks. Has lost her closest

0:05:00 > 0:05:06political ally. Has lost her number two in government, of course it is a

0:05:06 > 0:05:12blow. But honestly, she really had no option because Damian Green is

0:05:12 > 0:05:16pretty much bang to rights when it comes to the ministerial code. He

0:05:16 > 0:05:22lied and if you lie as a minister, it is almost always goodbye. If she

0:05:22 > 0:05:27hadn't sacked him, she would have faced accusations she was putting

0:05:27 > 0:05:30personal friendship and loyalty ahead of an independent enquiry.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33There would have been questions over her political judgment. And I

0:05:33 > 0:05:39suspect many of those who are anxious and angry about the abuse

0:05:39 > 0:05:43allegations at Westminster would have been on the warpath. Because

0:05:43 > 0:05:49although the enquiry made no judgment about the claims from Kate

0:05:49 > 0:05:55Maltby that Mr Green had behaved inappropriately towards her, they

0:05:55 > 0:06:02describe her evidence as plausible. One final thought, you can see how

0:06:02 > 0:06:09Theresa May's team would present this as being the Prime Minister

0:06:09 > 0:06:14being ruthless, showing leadership and trying to fashion and narrative

0:06:14 > 0:06:20that this is Theresa May getting on the front foot, she is prepared to

0:06:20 > 0:06:26set out a cause. It is a blow, of course it is, but I can see how she

0:06:26 > 0:06:30can find a way through this.Thank you, Norman.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32Let's go to the BBC Newsroom for a summary

0:06:32 > 0:06:36of the rest of the day's news.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40Australian police have arrested two people after a car was driven into a

0:06:40 > 0:06:45crowd in Melbourne. The car collided with a number of pedestrians on

0:06:45 > 0:06:48Flinders Street. The state Ambulance Service said 14 people have been

0:06:48 > 0:06:53injured and several are in a critical condition. Police have said

0:06:53 > 0:07:00it is a deliberate act but too early to say if it is terrorist related.

0:07:00 > 0:07:04Let's go to our Australian correspondent in Sydney. What is the

0:07:04 > 0:07:09latest you have on this incident?We have been hearing from eyewitnesses

0:07:09 > 0:07:17who described seeing this white, 4x4 Suzuki 's vehicle coming through the

0:07:17 > 0:07:20afternoon rush hour, busy with Christmas shoppers. The vehicle went

0:07:20 > 0:07:27to traffic lights. At that point, started crashing into pedestrians

0:07:27 > 0:07:32and people crossing the road. Some graphic descriptions of how bodies

0:07:32 > 0:07:35were thrown up into the air. It kept going, hitting people until it

0:07:35 > 0:07:42eventually crashed into a tramp 's. Some bystanders ran towards the

0:07:42 > 0:07:46vehicle, apprehended the driver. The police arrived within a couple of

0:07:46 > 0:07:49minutes and the driver and the second month have been taken away

0:07:49 > 0:07:55for questioning. The police said it was a deliberate act to run people

0:07:55 > 0:07:59down but they said it is too early to know the motive and they have not

0:07:59 > 0:08:05confirmed whether they see this as a terror incident. The city is on a

0:08:05 > 0:08:09state of high alert and locked down and the investigation goes on.Thank

0:08:09 > 0:08:14you very much.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16Tens of thousands of mothers and babies in England have been

0:08:16 > 0:08:19harmed when receiving maternity care over the last two years.

0:08:19 > 0:08:22More than a quarter of a million incidents were reported by hospital

0:08:22 > 0:08:23staff to the health regulator NHS Improvement.

0:08:23 > 0:08:27Most were minor but almost a quarter of the incidents led to the mother

0:08:27 > 0:08:29or baby being harmed.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32Catalonians head to the polls today in a closely watched regional

0:08:32 > 0:08:34election called by Spain, following October's controversial

0:08:34 > 0:08:37independence referendum.

0:08:37 > 0:08:40The snap election sees parties who want Catalonia to be

0:08:40 > 0:08:45an independent republic face those who wish it to remain

0:08:45 > 0:08:48a semi-autonomous part of Spain.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51All indications are that the result will be very close.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54South Korea says its soldiers have fired around 20 warning shots

0:08:54 > 0:08:57at North Korean troops who had approached the border

0:08:57 > 0:09:00between the two countries.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03The Defence Ministry in Seoul said the North Koreans appeared to be

0:09:03 > 0:09:05searching for one of their soldiers, who had earlier taken advantage

0:09:05 > 0:09:09of thick fog to cross the border and defect to the South.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12A poll carried out for the BBC suggests that almost one in ten

0:09:12 > 0:09:20young people across the UK have spent at least

0:09:20 > 0:09:23young people across the UK have spent at least a month sofa surfing

0:09:23 > 0:09:24because they've nowhere else to go.

0:09:24 > 0:09:27The most common reasons included family issues and domestic violence.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29The Government says it's providing more than £1 billion of funding

0:09:29 > 0:09:31before 2020 to reduce all forms of homelessness.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34A child's chances of attending a good secondary school in England

0:09:34 > 0:09:36increasingly depends on where they live,

0:09:36 > 0:09:39according to the think-thank, the Education Policy Institute.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43The study says some deprived areas of London have more high-performing

0:09:43 > 0:09:45schools than better-off areas in the north and

0:09:45 > 0:09:46north-east of the country.

0:09:46 > 0:09:54The government says it's investing £280 million in disadvantage areas.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58Toys-R-Us's future in the UK is hanging in the balance ahead

0:09:58 > 0:10:01of a key vote later on Thursday over whether to back

0:10:01 > 0:10:06the company's rescue plan.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10The Pension Protection Fund ,which wants the toy retailer to put

0:10:10 > 0:10:13£9 million into its struggling pension fund, has said it will vote

0:10:13 > 0:10:14against the plan.

0:10:14 > 0:10:17Failure to agree a deal could put all its 3,200 staff

0:10:17 > 0:10:18at risk of redundancy.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20But reports suggest Toys-R-Us has put forward new proposals

0:10:20 > 0:10:27to try to reach a last-minute deal.

0:10:27 > 0:10:33That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

0:10:33 > 0:10:39Thank you for you but tweeting your breaking news. Matthew Horton said

0:10:39 > 0:10:45Iran tanker Lahmert arrays, unimaginable this time last day. And

0:10:45 > 0:10:51he raised money for the London air ambulance. Sarah's breaking news,

0:10:51 > 0:10:55she says Mr Twomey, chemotherapy, lymph nodes removed, chemotherapy,

0:10:55 > 0:11:02Don! Done. Bring on 2018.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

0:11:09 > 0:11:12use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

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0:11:13 > 0:11:16Let's get some sport now with Katherine and what a night

0:11:16 > 0:11:18for Bristol City in the League Cup, knocking out the holders

0:11:18 > 0:11:19Manchester Untied.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21There were some great celebrations, weren't there?

0:11:21 > 0:11:24Yes, 2-1 win against the holders of the League Cup, Manchester United.

0:11:24 > 0:11:28Bristol City, third place in the championship beating the Premier

0:11:28 > 0:11:33League giants. Massive result. Let's look at how they did it. The first

0:11:33 > 0:11:39goal came from Joe O'Brien. He put them ahead in front of their home

0:11:39 > 0:11:42fans at Ashton gate. Zlatan Ibrahimovic equalised for Manchester

0:11:42 > 0:11:48United. But this is it, in injury time, the winner, Corey Smith, the

0:11:48 > 0:11:55hero for Bristol City. Celebrations, the fans ran onto the pitch. This is

0:11:55 > 0:11:58the manager looking for someone to celebrate with. The only person he

0:11:58 > 0:12:03can find is the ball boy on the touchline. Wonderful scenes and that

0:12:03 > 0:12:08is what it means to the Bristol City fans. Euphoria is the word the

0:12:08 > 0:12:13manager used to explain how he felt, beating his hero. Has read all of

0:12:13 > 0:12:21Jose Mourinho's books. This is what he had to say.Total euphoria, the

0:12:21 > 0:12:27noise in the stadium, the motion at the time. They did know whether to

0:12:27 > 0:12:34laugh, cry, cuddle each other, stay at with the fans, come in to safety.

0:12:34 > 0:12:39But again, just fantastic for the football club and like I say, many

0:12:39 > 0:12:42generations will talk about this and hopefully it will attract more and

0:12:42 > 0:12:47more supporters because we want more nights like that.He said he raided

0:12:47 > 0:12:52his daughter's piggybank to borrow £450 to buy a bottle of wine to

0:12:52 > 0:12:58share with Jose Mourinho after the match. But funnily enough, the

0:12:58 > 0:13:02Manchester United manager was not in a sharing mood.They were lucky they

0:13:02 > 0:13:06had the run of the game, but they fought to be lucky. Sometimes you

0:13:06 > 0:13:11think good luck comes from nowhere, but normally it comes from effort,

0:13:11 > 0:13:19from belief, which they had. It was a big night for had them. Probably

0:13:19 > 0:13:23the some of my players, it wasn't a big night, just one more day in the

0:13:23 > 0:13:28office. When you play against teams with extra motivation, you need also

0:13:28 > 0:13:34that extra motivation. Congratulations to them.

0:13:34 > 0:13:40Congratulations? He was reluctant to pass those congratulations on.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44Bristol City have done away with Manchester United and up next for

0:13:44 > 0:13:50them is when Chester city. Favourites are the Champions League

0:13:50 > 0:13:58Trophy not just the League Cup. But he says they cannot do it.

0:13:58 > 0:14:02We are awaiting confirmation and it is due that Birmingham will host the

0:14:02 > 0:14:06Commonwealth Games in 2022. It should win, it is the only bidding

0:14:06 > 0:14:11city and it will be a massive event? It will be, we have been waiting for

0:14:11 > 0:14:16this confirmation for a few days. We get the formal confirmation later on

0:14:16 > 0:14:21today. They got their bid in for the September deadline to say yes, we

0:14:21 > 0:14:26would like to host The Games. But there was an issue with compliance.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29The Commonwealth Games Federation said they were not happy with the

0:14:29 > 0:14:34bid. There were toing and froing, particularly with the finances, but

0:14:34 > 0:14:37there has been guarantees from Birmingham about the money for the

0:14:37 > 0:14:45event. It will cost £750 million, the estimated budget. The most

0:14:45 > 0:14:49expensive sports event since the London 2012 Olympics held in the UK.

0:14:49 > 0:14:57We have the 2014, wealth games in Glasgow shortly after the Olympics,

0:14:57 > 0:15:02so another massive sporting event to be confirmed in the UK, in a couple

0:15:02 > 0:15:10of years.We will talk about who is paying for that shortly.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12This morning Theresa May is without her closest political

0:15:12 > 0:15:14ally and effective deputy, after Damian Green was sacked

0:15:14 > 0:15:15as First Secretary of State.

0:15:15 > 0:15:18He was found to have "breached the ministerial code"

0:15:18 > 0:15:20after "inaccurate and misleading" statements over what he knew over

0:15:20 > 0:15:22claims that pornography had been found on his office computer,

0:15:22 > 0:15:25during a police raid in 2008.

0:15:25 > 0:15:30He has always denied downloading or viewing pornography,

0:15:30 > 0:15:33but has now admitted he should have been clear that police had spoken

0:15:33 > 0:15:42to him and his lawyers about the material.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45In a letter to Damian Green, Mrs May said she was "extremely

0:15:45 > 0:15:48sad" at his departure but said his actions 'fell short'

0:15:48 > 0:15:50of the conduct expected of a cabinet minister.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53Mr Green wrote that he 'regretted' being asked to resign following

0:15:53 > 0:15:56breaches of the ministerial code, he also denied that he had either

0:15:56 > 0:16:00downloaded or viewed pawn on his computer in parliament.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02But, crucially, he admitted that statements he made about

0:16:02 > 0:16:04what he knew about the pornography should have been 'clearer'.

0:16:04 > 0:16:08The inquiry followed claims from journalist and Tory

0:16:08 > 0:16:11activist Kate Maltby, seen here on our programme

0:16:11 > 0:16:12earlier this year talking about another matter,

0:16:12 > 0:16:14who accused Damian Green of 'inappropriate behaviour'.

0:16:14 > 0:16:19The investigation found it wasn't possible to reach

0:16:19 > 0:16:21a definitive conclusion, but that her account

0:16:21 > 0:16:23was 'plausible'.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25Kate Malby hasn't commented yet, but her parents have

0:16:25 > 0:16:29praised their daughter for her courage in 'speaking out'.

0:16:29 > 0:16:39So what were the statements that caused Damian Green's downfall?

0:16:39 > 0:16:41On November 5th, after the initial claims from former

0:16:41 > 0:16:43police chief Bob Quick that pornography had been found

0:16:43 > 0:16:45on his office computer during the police raid nine years

0:16:45 > 0:16:48ago - Mr Green said the allegation was 'completely untrue'

0:16:48 > 0:16:49and a 'political smear'.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51And a week later, in response to a second

0:16:51 > 0:16:53story that the former Met Police Commissioner Sir

0:16:53 > 0:16:55Paul Stephenson had been briefed about the claims,

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Mr Green once again insisted he was the victim of smears.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00With me is Sebastian Payne - Political Leader Writer

0:17:00 > 0:17:01at the Financial Times.

0:17:01 > 0:17:05Let's talk about the implication for Theresa May first of all. What sort

0:17:05 > 0:17:11of a hole does this leave in No 10. A big one. Even though first

0:17:11 > 0:17:19Secretary of State is no at position that is always filled, it is effect

0:17:19 > 0:17:25yefly Deputy Prime Minister, Damian Green sat on nine committees that

0:17:25 > 0:17:29dictate how things are done across government.And on the committees he

0:17:29 > 0:17:36is her eyes and ears.And Damian Green and Theresa May go back a long

0:17:36 > 0:17:39time, they went to university together and rose through the ranks

0:17:39 > 0:17:46together. It is a big loss for her. Margaret Thatcher once said everyone

0:17:46 > 0:17:53needs a Willie, a reference to Willie Whitelaw. And Theresa May has

0:17:53 > 0:17:57lost her Willie. How she gets another first Secretary of State who

0:17:57 > 0:18:03she trusts is not an easy task. I don't think we will expect another

0:18:03 > 0:18:08one too soon.He was the architect of his own down fall, he lied.It is

0:18:08 > 0:18:17as simple as that. It began with the allegations from Kate Maltby and the

0:18:17 > 0:18:22investigation couldn't decide, but said it was plausible. He spoke out

0:18:22 > 0:18:26and had a backlash from the press and that is partly why we haven't

0:18:26 > 0:18:29heard from him since this broke. If you're going to be a minister, you

0:18:29 > 0:18:34have to be honest and tell the truth and he broke that. There is a sense

0:18:34 > 0:18:38of sadness across the Conservative Party as people fear that generally

0:18:38 > 0:18:42he has acted well and it is said in the investigation aside from this

0:18:42 > 0:18:47incident...Apart from the lying. Apart from the lying he had opinion

0:18:47 > 0:18:51a good minister and a good Deputy Prime Minister. There was no option.

0:18:51 > 0:18:58He did have to go. Once he had broken the ministerial code.Why did

0:18:58 > 0:19:02he say, I regret that I have been asked to resign. Does he not believe

0:19:02 > 0:19:05he has done anything wrong?He wanted to stay on here, because I

0:19:05 > 0:19:12think he was sort of feeling I don't want to say witch-hunt, but there

0:19:12 > 0:19:20was a media sform and the facts -- storm and the facts were not being

0:19:20 > 0:19:28heard. David Davis said if Damian Green goes will go. But we haven't

0:19:28 > 0:19:33heard tr him. There was an insistence that everything be done

0:19:33 > 0:19:40by due process. He didn't fear he had broken the rules. There is a

0:19:40 > 0:19:43tinge of regret. But there was no other choice when you're a minister

0:19:43 > 0:19:50and you lie.How do the police come out of this?Not terribly well. The

0:19:50 > 0:19:57leaking about this 2008 thing is a messy scandal to do with when the

0:19:57 > 0:20:04police raided his computer when he was a shadow spokesman for the

0:20:04 > 0:20:10Conservative Party and it was seen to be politically motivated, the

0:20:10 > 0:20:15idea retired police officers leaking. A lot of Conservatives feel

0:20:15 > 0:20:19uncomfortable about it. Don't know if there is a need for an

0:20:19 > 0:20:25investigation. But it is uncomfortable that they're waging

0:20:25 > 0:20:29this war that started with the sexual harassment allegations going

0:20:29 > 0:20:35around Westminster.How does this leave Theresa May at the end of one

0:20:35 > 0:20:43heck of a year for her?A bit less happy than it was. They have had a

0:20:43 > 0:20:47good month they got the Budget through and got progress on the

0:20:47 > 0:20:51Brexit deal and there was talk of a reshuffle. That will have to happen

0:20:51 > 0:20:58now. They need a new Cabinet Office minister. It ends the year on a sour

0:20:58 > 0:21:04note. It was released at 8 .40pm last night. It is getting it out of

0:21:04 > 0:21:08way. They will try and leave this behind and bring in some new faces

0:21:08 > 0:21:13and have a reshuffle to try and bring back some of the political

0:21:13 > 0:21:21capital they were building.Thank you. More on that later on.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23This time yesterday we brought you the news that MPs had described

0:21:23 > 0:21:27homelessness in England as a 'national crisis'.

0:21:27 > 0:21:29Then at lunchtime the PM angered some Labour MPs in the Commons

0:21:29 > 0:21:32when she said that not everyone classified as homeless

0:21:32 > 0:21:34is sleeping on the street.

0:21:34 > 0:21:37There's very little data on the so-called hidden homeless -

0:21:37 > 0:21:39people sleeping on sofas, floors or in spare rooms because

0:21:39 > 0:21:44they've nowhere to call home.

0:21:44 > 0:21:47Today we can bring you news that a poll, conducted

0:21:47 > 0:21:50by Comres for BBC News, suggests more than 40% of people

0:21:50 > 0:21:55aged 16-25 have spent at least a night sofa surfing.

0:21:55 > 0:21:5810% have done this for more than a month.

0:21:58 > 0:21:59The single biggest reason?

0:21:59 > 0:22:05Because parents were unwilling or unable to house them.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08We can chat about this more now with Dale Taylor-Gentles,

0:22:08 > 0:22:11who sofa surfed after being kicked out of the house during a row

0:22:11 > 0:22:14with his mum on Christmas day.

0:22:14 > 0:22:17Hafsa Isahak, who sofa surfed for six weeks.

0:22:17 > 0:22:19Talisha Reid-Clementson, who sofa surfed for six months

0:22:19 > 0:22:20until February this year.

0:22:20 > 0:22:30And Paul Noblet, from homelessness charity Centrepoint.

0:22:32 > 0:22:36Thank you for coming on the programme. You were in care at 16.

0:22:36 > 0:22:41You did go back to live with your mum. It didn't work out and you

0:22:41 > 0:22:46ended up sleeping on a friend's sofa, how unsettling was that?It

0:22:46 > 0:22:53was difficult, because I was studying my A-levels. So when you're

0:22:53 > 0:22:58sofa surfing, you're not sure about where you're going to be sleeping, I

0:22:58 > 0:23:05was making phone calls about where I was staying, as well as doing

0:23:05 > 0:23:12revision. So it was an unstable time. How tired were you? Very

0:23:12 > 0:23:17tired, when you're staying at a friend's house, they don't have a

0:23:17 > 0:23:22guest bed, so it was sofas.Give us a sense of the impact when you're

0:23:22 > 0:23:27trying to study.It is a very stressful time. There is no

0:23:27 > 0:23:31certainty of what the next day's going to be like or the evening,

0:23:31 > 0:23:35because you don't know what, where you're going to be staying or what

0:23:35 > 0:23:38you're going to be doing and focussing on A-levels is very

0:23:38 > 0:23:41difficult when you're worrying about where you're going to be sleeping.

0:23:41 > 0:23:47What about yourself, how did it happen to you?I like went through

0:23:47 > 0:23:52certain situations which caused myself to be homeless, previous

0:23:52 > 0:23:57relationships and stuff. That caused me to be homeless. I had no choice

0:23:57 > 0:24:06but to sofa surf. I couldn't go back to my mum's.That was staying at,

0:24:06 > 0:24:10calling in favours, staying at friends?Yes and family and going

0:24:10 > 0:24:15back and forth.What was that like for you?Stressful. It was

0:24:15 > 0:24:18heart-breaking. You feel like you have lost control of yourself and

0:24:18 > 0:24:24you're not able to be the person you want to be, because you have nowhere

0:24:24 > 0:24:31stable to lay your head and think to yourself.How are you?Hi.Tell us

0:24:31 > 0:24:36what happened to you.How are you? I'm really well. Tell us about your

0:24:36 > 0:24:45story.So I was living with my foster parents and I was 17 and

0:24:45 > 0:24:51things got difficult and we were arguing and I knew I couldn't stay.

0:24:51 > 0:24:56So what happened was I ended up packing my stuff, leaving and

0:24:56 > 0:25:02luckily with my friend I could stay with her and ended up sofa surfing

0:25:02 > 0:25:06for six weeks and it was the most depressing time of my life.

0:25:06 > 0:25:11Everybody in that house had a rue tune, but I was -- routine and I was

0:25:11 > 0:25:15coming to disrupt that. You don't feel where you belong, you feel left

0:25:15 > 0:25:21out. But that woman was lovely to me and helped me show that she could

0:25:21 > 0:25:27assist me in different ways to try and get me a place by the end.You

0:25:27 > 0:25:32feel like you're, do you feel guilty, because you feel like you're

0:25:32 > 0:25:37imposing yourself on somebody else? Yeah. It is. It makes you feel

0:25:37 > 0:25:45like... You over stepping your boundaries.And over staying your

0:25:45 > 0:25:51welcome potentially.That is true. There will be some people watching

0:25:51 > 0:25:58and I will ask you this, who will say, look, you were not sleeping on

0:25:58 > 0:26:01the street, you were dry and warm and had access to the bath or

0:26:01 > 0:26:07shower, what do you say to that?It is not a home. It is not where you

0:26:07 > 0:26:12can foe see, although you may see the people, it is not somewhere you

0:26:12 > 0:26:16can feel safe or be able to rest and relax. You don't have a room. You

0:26:16 > 0:26:26have to chill on the sofa or in your friend's room.There is no sense of

0:26:26 > 0:26:30privacy or stability. You don't ever feel like you're relaxed and can be

0:26:30 > 0:26:35calm and have your own space. It is never feels like the home or never

0:26:35 > 0:26:39feels like a safe space, although you may know the people you're

0:26:39 > 0:26:43staying with.What would you say to people who say that?You feel like

0:26:43 > 0:26:50have...Go ahead. OoYou feel like you have to watch yourself and know

0:26:50 > 0:26:54what you're doing all the time and everything you do, you like it comes

0:26:54 > 0:26:58down to pressure, because if you mess up, you can mess up your chance

0:26:58 > 0:27:03of staying in that house and it is always not knowing what is going to

0:27:03 > 0:27:11happen.Why couldn't any of you go back to foster parents or parents?

0:27:11 > 0:27:19No more space for me. I'm one of seven. Between me and my mum, the

0:27:19 > 0:27:25relationship weren't too good. There was no chance to go back home.Deal?

0:27:25 > 0:27:29I had grown up living with my grandmother, when she went into a

0:27:29 > 0:27:35care home, I had nowhere else to go. With my mum, we didn't have a strong

0:27:35 > 0:27:38bond and it was constant arguing until she kicked me out at

0:27:38 > 0:27:42Christmas. That was a difficult time and that relationship had broken

0:27:42 > 0:27:48down.You felt you couldn't go back to your foster parents?Yes that is

0:27:48 > 0:27:52true. They didn't want anything to do with me any more and they were

0:27:52 > 0:27:57going to send me to a different house. When you say you're used to

0:27:57 > 0:28:01starting over and you don't want to start over again, I thought I will

0:28:01 > 0:28:07leave and hopefully the world will show me a kind face.Paul, this is

0:28:07 > 0:28:11really sad, this is upsetting, isn't it? Young people who don't feel

0:28:11 > 0:28:15settled, because they have been kicked out, or can't get on with

0:28:15 > 0:28:20their parents or foster parents and it is where centre point has helped?

0:28:20 > 0:28:25Yes we are there to make sure there is somewhere for the young people to

0:28:25 > 0:28:31go. A challenge is if someone is sofa surfing, they don't know where

0:28:31 > 0:28:38the sources of information and help are. We set up a help line for

0:28:38 > 0:28:42people to work out where the next step might be. Whilst people have

0:28:42 > 0:28:49had somewhere that is a refuge at the time, a lot of the young people

0:28:49 > 0:28:53we support can slip into rough sleeping and into sofa surfing and

0:28:53 > 0:28:57back. It is not great what we have heard about having to stay on sofas

0:28:57 > 0:29:01and not feeling like you have a place of your own. It is worse at

0:29:01 > 0:29:08this time of year if people end up on the street.How do you react to

0:29:08 > 0:29:13this poll which suggests that more man 40% of 16 to 25-year-olds have

0:29:13 > 0:29:23spent at least a night sofa surfing and 10% for more than a month.It is

0:29:23 > 0:29:29not surprising when you talk to young people, it is a ready tale and

0:29:29 > 0:29:35what their experience is. The role the government has it is difficult

0:29:35 > 0:29:40to quantify but the Government may be looking at the definitions of

0:29:40 > 0:29:46homelessness, the law doesn't see sofa surfing as a state of

0:29:46 > 0:29:50homelessness and local authorities' hands are tied in terms of offering

0:29:50 > 0:29:57help. It is a different system in Scotland and may England viewers may

0:29:57 > 0:30:04to know if there is a discussion needed as to whether we need to

0:30:04 > 0:30:11categorise more people as homeless. Tell us, be are you now living.I'm

0:30:11 > 0:30:17in lieu wish sham in a property provided by centre point.That is

0:30:17 > 0:30:23sharing with somebodyelse? Yes.You pay rent. What is it like to have

0:30:23 > 0:30:32your own place.It is a lot, similar to the hostel, it is a safe space,

0:30:32 > 0:30:35somewhere you can go and get your work done and I'm at university now

0:30:35 > 0:30:39and I can do my work come home and go out in the day and know I still

0:30:39 > 0:30:48have the place.

0:30:48 > 0:30:55What about you?I am living in Shepherd's Bush in a hostel, sharing

0:30:55 > 0:30:59with 13 people. There is three bathrooms, and three of us share a

0:30:59 > 0:31:05bathroom. There is one kitchen we all share, one washing machine. It

0:31:05 > 0:31:09is a bit of a struggle but I get by and at the end of the day, I am not

0:31:09 > 0:31:16trying to light... Mess chance again, I just want to put my head

0:31:16 > 0:31:25down and get on with it.About yourself?At the moment, I was

0:31:25 > 0:31:32living in the old people'shospital which is from Coventry's homeless

0:31:32 > 0:31:43team. I have got a flat last year. I got it on my own, I have just got

0:31:43 > 0:31:48some carpets, redecorating, getting to know myself. Even when you

0:31:48 > 0:31:54finally get a place, your mind never leaves the mental state of being

0:31:54 > 0:31:59homeless cell. At the moment I am trying to pick myself up and I have

0:31:59 > 0:32:07got a job.Congratulations. You have described, all of you, articulately,

0:32:07 > 0:32:12the highs and lows in your lives in the last few years. I want to wish

0:32:12 > 0:32:15you all are very happy Christmas, thank you for coming on the

0:32:15 > 0:32:25programme. We can tell you, Birmingham is confirmed as the host

0:32:25 > 0:32:29city for the 2022 Commonwealth Games. We will get reaction in the

0:32:29 > 0:32:33next half an hour and if you are a Birmingham resident, let me know

0:32:33 > 0:32:38your views.

0:32:38 > 0:32:40And random acts of kindness are taking place across the UK

0:32:40 > 0:32:43in the run up to Christmas like this man giving away a TV.

0:32:43 > 0:32:46We'll hear from some of those who've been given gifts from strangers.

0:32:46 > 0:32:52Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

0:32:52 > 0:32:57Prime Minister Theresa May has sacked Damian Green as first

0:32:57 > 0:33:00secretary of State amid claims pornographic material was found on a

0:33:00 > 0:33:06Commons computer in 2008. The Prime Minister expressed deep regret at

0:33:06 > 0:33:10his departure but his actions fall short of those expected of a Cabinet

0:33:10 > 0:33:15minister.

0:33:15 > 0:33:18Australian police have arrested two people after car drove into a crowd

0:33:18 > 0:33:23in Melbourne. The car drove into a number of people in Flinders Street.

0:33:23 > 0:33:27The state Ambulance Service said 14 people have been injured and several

0:33:27 > 0:33:30are in a critical condition. Police have said it was a deliberate act

0:33:30 > 0:33:37but it is too early to say whether it was terrorist related.

0:33:37 > 0:33:40Tens of thousands of mothers and babies in England have been harmed

0:33:40 > 0:33:45when receiving maternity care over the last two years. More than 100

0:33:45 > 0:33:49incidents were reported. Most were minor but almost a quarter of the

0:33:49 > 0:33:53incidents led to the mother or baby being harmed.

0:33:53 > 0:33:56Catalonians head to the polls today in a closely watched regional

0:33:56 > 0:33:58election called by Spain, following October's controversial

0:33:58 > 0:34:00independence referendum.

0:34:00 > 0:34:02The snap election sees parties who want Catalonia to be

0:34:02 > 0:34:05an independent republic face those who wish it to remain

0:34:05 > 0:34:06a semi-autonomous part of Spain.

0:34:06 > 0:34:10All indications are that the result will be very close.

0:34:10 > 0:34:17That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:34:17 > 0:34:22Here's some sport now with Katherine.

0:34:22 > 0:34:25Birmingham has been confirmed as the host city for the 2022

0:34:25 > 0:34:27Commonwealth Games.

0:34:27 > 0:34:31There are now guarantees in place over the financing of the event,

0:34:31 > 0:34:34which, at around £750 million, will be the most expensive sports

0:34:34 > 0:34:38event to be held in the UK since the 2012 Olympics.

0:34:38 > 0:34:40Bristol City have knocked out the holders Manchester United

0:34:40 > 0:34:42in the quarter-finals of the League Cup.

0:34:42 > 0:34:46Korey Smith with an injury time winner for the Championship side.

0:34:46 > 0:34:49They'll face Manchester City and it'll be Chelsea-Arsenal

0:34:49 > 0:34:53in the other semi-final.

0:34:53 > 0:34:56Celtic are back to winning ways, after their 69-match unbeaten run

0:34:56 > 0:35:02was ended at the weekend - they beat Partick Thistle 2-0,

0:35:02 > 0:35:05to go five points clear again at the top of the Scottish

0:35:05 > 0:35:06Premiership.

0:35:06 > 0:35:09And Marion Bartoli says she's inspired by the Williams sisters -

0:35:09 > 0:35:12as she prepares to return to tennis at the age of 33, having announced

0:35:12 > 0:35:16her retirement four years ago.

0:35:16 > 0:35:19Australian police have arrested two people after a car drove

0:35:19 > 0:35:22into a crowd in Melbourne.

0:35:22 > 0:35:25The car collided with a number of pedestrians on Flinders Street,

0:35:25 > 0:35:29a busy junction in the centre of the city 13 people have

0:35:29 > 0:35:31been taken to hospital, several are in a critical condition.

0:35:31 > 0:35:35Police have said it was a deliberate act but it is too early to say

0:35:35 > 0:35:42whether it was terrorist-related.

0:35:42 > 0:35:53As vehicle, a Suzuki SUV, travelling at about 60 mph just targeted

0:35:53 > 0:35:58pedestrians. It was a busy intersection in Melbourne. He

0:35:58 > 0:36:06ploughed into them without stopping and the car came to a stop at one of

0:36:06 > 0:36:12the tram stops. People were falling around and within minutes, emergency

0:36:12 > 0:36:17services were attending the scenes. It was a very quick response by the

0:36:17 > 0:36:24police and ambulances.

0:36:24 > 0:36:31A vehicle has struck a number of vehicles in the Melbourne CBD.

0:36:31 > 0:36:36Police arrived at the scene within minutes and have arrested two men.

0:36:36 > 0:36:41At this stage we have 14 people injured and several are critical. At

0:36:41 > 0:36:47this stage, we believe it is a deliberate act. I repeat, it is a

0:36:47 > 0:36:52deliberate act. However, we don't know the motivation and it is still

0:36:52 > 0:36:56early stages of the investigation. Police and emergency services will

0:36:56 > 0:37:01remain on scene for the foreseeable future. Crime command have privacy

0:37:01 > 0:37:06of the investigation and we are requested people to avoid the area.

0:37:06 > 0:37:10The crime scene will be in place for a considerable period of time and we

0:37:10 > 0:37:18are urging people who can avoid the area, to avoid the area. Police will

0:37:18 > 0:37:22continue to have a strong presence in the Melbourne CBD tonight. People

0:37:22 > 0:37:26might have items in vehicles within the crime scene. At this stage they

0:37:26 > 0:37:30will not be able to be retrieved until the crime scene is reopened.

0:37:30 > 0:37:36We understand this has been a very traumatic events and there will be

0:37:36 > 0:37:39witnesses, victims and family members affected. Anyone who

0:37:39 > 0:37:47witnessed the incident is urged to attend the police station at 313

0:37:47 > 0:37:52Spencer St, Melbourne to make a statement. We encourage anyone with

0:37:52 > 0:38:05any other information to contact Crimestoppers. Thank you.

0:38:05 > 0:38:10We will talk to an eyewitness in the next few minutes, talking to Sophie

0:38:10 > 0:38:17Smith as soon as we establish contact. We have some messages about

0:38:17 > 0:38:24homelessness and the guests we were talking to a few moments ago. JB

0:38:24 > 0:38:29says, I am lucky enough to own my own house. I know if I was unlucky

0:38:29 > 0:38:32to become homeless, the government couldn't care less. The only thing

0:38:32 > 0:38:36they would be bothered about would be another unhelpful statistic they

0:38:36 > 0:38:41would have to deal with. We talked about homelessness on the programme

0:38:41 > 0:38:45yesterday and the government are putting in £1 billion by 2020 to

0:38:45 > 0:38:50make more affordable housing available. And Paul says, listening

0:38:50 > 0:38:54to your guests this morning who have had to sew the surf, it is sad to

0:38:54 > 0:38:59hear what they are saying. Paul Kelly says, my heart goes out to

0:38:59 > 0:39:03those sofa surfers on your programme and that last one who said she hopes

0:39:03 > 0:39:08the world would show her a kind face, I feel so sad for them. We

0:39:08 > 0:39:13should be ashamed this is happening in our country.

0:39:13 > 0:39:15In the past few minutes, it's been announced that

0:39:15 > 0:39:20Birmingham will host the Commonwealth Games in 2022.

0:39:20 > 0:39:25The announcement was expected, because Birmingham was the only

0:39:25 > 0:39:28bidder.

0:39:28 > 0:39:31It will be the most expensive sports event in Britain

0:39:31 > 0:39:35since the London 2012 Olympics.

0:39:35 > 0:39:37Let's talk to Louise Hazel, who's a Commonwealth Games Gold Medallist

0:39:37 > 0:39:41and member of Birchfield Harriers, Birmingham's leading athletics club.

0:39:41 > 0:39:45Diane Modahl, also a Commonwealth Gold Medallist.

0:39:45 > 0:39:51She was an advisor to the Manchester Commonwealth Games team.

0:39:51 > 0:39:55Ian Metcalfe is from the Commonwealth Games England,

0:39:55 > 0:40:03the team organising the Birmingham Games.

0:40:03 > 0:40:10First of all, your reaction?I am so overjoyed. I went to bed last night,

0:40:10 > 0:40:15fingers crossed and hoping and praying it came to this morning. So

0:40:15 > 0:40:23proud of the city, proud of London, it will mean big things for my club.

0:40:23 > 0:40:27Was there any doubt Birmingham would be officially given it because there

0:40:27 > 0:40:32was no one else?No, it has always been the heart of athletics in this

0:40:32 > 0:40:37country. We have had an amazing stadium built in London for the

0:40:37 > 0:40:41Olympic Games, but the heart of athletics lies in Birmingham.

0:40:41 > 0:40:45Athletes, coaches and the stuff of British athletics will agree, it has

0:40:45 > 0:40:49always been in Birmingham. So glad we are getting the opportunity to

0:40:49 > 0:40:54stage a major event in one of the best cities in the country, in my

0:40:54 > 0:40:59opinion.The Alexander Stadium, home to Birchwood Harriers will be

0:40:59 > 0:41:03redeveloped, as I understand it, what does that mean for the city?We

0:41:03 > 0:41:13had about 20,000 seater stadium put in in 2010. I was training over at

0:41:13 > 0:41:18University at that time. It will put us back on the map in terms of

0:41:18 > 0:41:23sports, spectatorship and we have such great local traffic links in

0:41:23 > 0:41:27the country, the ideal spot in order to attract the spectators we need

0:41:27 > 0:41:32back to the sport. In 2010 I was training at the University track in

0:41:32 > 0:41:37preparation for the Commonwealth Games, which I then went on to win.

0:41:37 > 0:41:42They have stepped up their game with outstanding facilities. For all of

0:41:42 > 0:41:49those visiting Commonwealth nations coming to the UK, they will be very,

0:41:49 > 0:41:51very well looked after in Birmingham.We'll talk about what

0:41:51 > 0:41:54happens to the stadium afterwards, but we have just got the moment my

0:41:54 > 0:41:58Birmingham was officially announced. Let's take a look, hopefully. Any

0:41:58 > 0:42:07moment now, we will bring it to you. Are you ready for the good news? Are

0:42:07 > 0:42:19you ready? Fantastic. So, it is my great pressure to announced the host

0:42:19 > 0:42:26of the 2022 Commonwealth Games will be... Birmingham!

0:42:26 > 0:42:35CHEERING and APPLAUSE

0:42:43 > 0:42:48Was there any doubt? She was trying to whip up excitement. I covered the

0:42:48 > 0:42:51announcement for Manchester to win the 2002 games and there was only

0:42:51 > 0:42:57Manchester bidding. There is tension, but not that much. Ian

0:42:57 > 0:43:01Metcalfe from Commonwealth Games England, the team organising the

0:43:01 > 0:43:07Birmingham games, congratulations. Thank you very much, it has been a

0:43:07 > 0:43:11fantastic morning, I still have the goose bumps watching the

0:43:11 > 0:43:17announcement from Louise.Who is going to pay for it?That is a

0:43:17 > 0:43:21matter between the government and the city. Those are the two entities

0:43:21 > 0:43:25that provide the funding for The Games, the combination of the

0:43:25 > 0:43:30Treasury and the City Council will be involved. Also, Birmingham is

0:43:30 > 0:43:35being supported by the broader West Midlands regions, many of whom will

0:43:35 > 0:43:47support The Games, together with a variety of sponsors we have raised

0:43:47 > 0:43:49to provide commercial funding is as well.Taxpayers, council tax payers,

0:43:49 > 0:43:52but it is the hope most of the money will come from the private sector.

0:43:52 > 0:44:01It is going to be a very expensive Abang, £750 million.The funding is

0:44:01 > 0:44:07still needs to be signed off and there will be astringent budgeting

0:44:07 > 0:44:11process which will go back to Parliament for a review. It will be

0:44:11 > 0:44:14a broad combination of central government, local government and

0:44:14 > 0:44:20much private sponsorship as can be raised to defer the cost for the

0:44:20 > 0:44:26taxpayer.What will it mean for the city?It will be huge boost, I was

0:44:26 > 0:44:31born and brought up here. It is something the city has wanted and

0:44:31 > 0:44:35needed for many years, it will be on a global stage, over 1 billion

0:44:35 > 0:44:39people watching, 70 different nations and territories here. It

0:44:39 > 0:44:44will be an opportunity for the region to showcase itself to the

0:44:44 > 0:44:48world and forge new links of the Commonwealth at a time when we will

0:44:48 > 0:44:50be leaving Europe and the relationships with our, while

0:44:50 > 0:44:56partners will be so much more important.Let me ask you about the

0:44:56 > 0:44:59Alexander Stadium, home to Birchfield Harriers, it will be

0:44:59 > 0:45:07redeveloped, what will happen to it after The Games, who will use it?

0:45:07 > 0:45:15It will still be an athletics stadium. There will be a significant

0:45:15 > 0:45:19amount of community use, the local community here and across Birmingham

0:45:19 > 0:45:25can use all the facilities within the stadium, the athletics track and

0:45:25 > 0:45:31indoor warm up areas and all the support that will be here for the

0:45:31 > 0:45:39community.Let me bring in Diane. You will remember a lot of people

0:45:39 > 0:45:44said, what will the legacy of Manchester be. What would you say

0:45:44 > 0:45:48the legacy has been?We were clear from the start as a city that we

0:45:48 > 0:45:58wanted to games to bring to Manchester. And for Manchester it

0:45:58 > 0:46:05was about transforming an area of land that was one of poorest in the

0:46:05 > 0:46:11country. We were one of first cities to have a sports-led regeneration.

0:46:11 > 0:46:17When you look at the area now and consider the facilities we have now,

0:46:17 > 0:46:22the national squash centre, the national BMX centre and a host of

0:46:22 > 0:46:28national governing bodies who have positioned themselves in Manchester,

0:46:28 > 0:46:33and all those facilities are used by the public and I think collectively

0:46:33 > 0:46:38across the venues that we have we have at least two million people

0:46:38 > 0:46:47public use using those facilities. 10,000 volunteers signed up for the

0:46:47 > 0:46:55games in 2002. 7,000 of those are still registered within Manchester

0:46:55 > 0:47:00as active volunteers who take parts in activities across the city. It

0:47:00 > 0:47:04was a real success in terms of what we wanted to achieve and we were

0:47:04 > 0:47:08very clear from the start in term of what wanting to leave a lasting

0:47:08 > 0:47:14legacy. Not only in facility but in raising the aspiration of young

0:47:14 > 0:47:25people who could then continue to be inspired by sport.And the velodrome

0:47:25 > 0:47:30became the home of British cycling and won medals in Beijing and

0:47:30 > 0:47:34London. And you could argue I think with the success of Manchester it

0:47:34 > 0:47:39spurred London on to bidding for the 2012 Olympics. Let me bring Ian back

0:47:39 > 0:47:43in. What in term of legacy for Birmingham, what do you hope it will

0:47:43 > 0:47:53be?I hope it will inspire a new generation of young men and women to

0:47:53 > 0:47:57become athletes in which ever sports they enjoy and introduce Birmingham

0:47:57 > 0:48:02to a broader audience. It is the youngest city in Europe. It will be

0:48:02 > 0:48:06a fantastic opportunity to show case the area and provide a legacy that

0:48:06 > 0:48:10people will talk about for many years and continue to attract

0:48:10 > 0:48:21business and tourism.Louise?Ian I wanted to say it is inspiring me I

0:48:21 > 0:48:27might get my spikes back on. It is an amazing achievement. I think the

0:48:27 > 0:48:36sport needs it, Birmingham needs it. I'm just super excited and proud and

0:48:36 > 0:48:39obviously having come from Birmingham it was Birmingham and the

0:48:39 > 0:48:43community in Birmingham that got me to the Commonwealth Games gold medal

0:48:43 > 0:48:48and to London 2012. It was their support, their financial support and

0:48:48 > 0:48:52I'm pleased to be able to give that back.And people buying lottery

0:48:52 > 0:49:00tickets IYesIt wasn't that long ago there were 170 issues that the

0:49:00 > 0:49:04Commonwealth Games were asking you about, what was the most worrying of

0:49:04 > 0:49:11those and how did you iron it out? There is always a broad range of

0:49:11 > 0:49:16issues in a bid. What even needs to remember is normally the process

0:49:16 > 0:49:21takes two to three years to finalise in a bid process. We managed to get

0:49:21 > 0:49:29there in about six months. So there is a broad range of small and large

0:49:29 > 0:49:32issues, financial-related issues, around ensuring the village could be

0:49:32 > 0:49:36supplied in time and a lot of small details about particular venues,

0:49:36 > 0:49:40what sports would be where and what the capacities would be. A broad

0:49:40 > 0:49:45range of questions which the federation perfectly are entitled to

0:49:45 > 0:49:48ask, particularly in circumstances where the games had been granted to

0:49:48 > 0:49:52Durban, who had fallen away and they were keen to make sure this time

0:49:52 > 0:49:57that they got it right and that Birmingham was ready when the host

0:49:57 > 0:50:03city contract was signed as it will be today.In order for that stadium

0:50:03 > 0:50:07to be viable after wards, I hear what you saying there will be

0:50:07 > 0:50:10facilities for the community, but do you not need a football club to

0:50:10 > 0:50:22lease to it make it commercially viable?I don't think. Alex-Ander

0:50:22 > 0:50:28stadium has never been a football stadium.But you're going to spend

0:50:28 > 0:50:34millions on rebuilding.It won't be a full stadium like the Olympic

0:50:34 > 0:50:40stadiums. It will be modernised on two sides and the ends will be

0:50:40 > 0:50:46closed in. That will be broking down after and leave a sensibly-sized

0:50:46 > 0:50:49stadium for athletic and the infrastructure will be available for

0:50:49 > 0:50:55the community. So I do think it is a sensible investment to generate

0:50:55 > 0:51:01value for many years to come.This never unanimous support from

0:51:01 > 0:51:06taxpayers for their city hosting an events, what do you say to those who

0:51:06 > 0:51:12say we can't afford this and we don't need this?Everybody will have

0:51:12 > 0:51:18their own views. In my view I think that this will provide value not

0:51:18 > 0:51:22just for the sporting people of the area who will see the games, but it

0:51:22 > 0:51:27will generate significant amounts of tourism, of new business and show

0:51:27 > 0:51:31case the city to the world. And they will be able to see what a wonderful

0:51:31 > 0:51:39area it is to live and work in, to bring businesses to. And I do

0:51:39 > 0:51:43believe it will create value for all the taxpayers and rates payers of

0:51:43 > 0:51:50the city and the area in the way it show capeses the city.--Show cases

0:51:50 > 0:51:55the city.I would like to invite them to stadium to watch the

0:51:55 > 0:52:00community events. While we were training for the Olympics, there

0:52:00 > 0:52:03were schools events, local schools coming and they have competitions

0:52:03 > 0:52:08there and get excited and some of the older athletes would go and hand

0:52:08 > 0:52:13out medals. Turn up on those day and ask if there is a value in having

0:52:13 > 0:52:19the staid crumb in Birmingham.I -- Stadium in Birmingham.A quick word

0:52:19 > 0:52:26from you, Diane. What would you say to Ian getting Birmingham ready from

0:52:26 > 0:52:30your own experience of being involved in the Manchester event.

0:52:30 > 0:52:35First congratulations to the whole team who have done a brilliant job

0:52:35 > 0:52:40in securing the gameles. It is not only good for Birmingham, it is good

0:52:40 > 0:52:43for the UK as a whole and the lessons learned from Manchester is

0:52:43 > 0:52:50putting on a successful games does inspire not only a city, its young

0:52:50 > 0:52:54people, the volunteers, but drive up revenue in the economy into the

0:52:54 > 0:52:59economy as well, investing in new facilities. It is a brilliant

0:52:59 > 0:53:02opportunity to really ensure that everyone of the residents across

0:53:02 > 0:53:07Birmingham feel part of the games and have an opportunity to not only

0:53:07 > 0:53:13come and watch, but no learn new skills, to become volunteers and

0:53:13 > 0:53:17then become brilliant coaches that then ties into that whole

0:53:17 > 0:53:20conversation around legacy and ensuring that once the lights have

0:53:20 > 0:53:24been turned off from the staid scombrum and the medals -- stadium

0:53:24 > 0:53:28and the medals handed out that Birmingham benefits and has the

0:53:28 > 0:53:35opportunity to be a brilliant games for everybody involved.Thank you

0:53:35 > 0:53:43very much.

0:53:43 > 0:53:46Yesterday we spoke to people who are facing Christmas estranged

0:53:46 > 0:53:52from their families and it prompted a beautiful reaction from you.

0:53:52 > 0:53:55I knew you were compasionate but this it so touching - two

0:53:55 > 0:53:57different families have invited Farah over for Christmas Day.

0:53:57 > 0:54:00Another man got in touch so he could send them all Christmas Cards

0:54:00 > 0:54:08and many of you have sent messages of support.

0:54:08 > 0:54:12So we thought it would be a good idea to speak to more people

0:54:12 > 0:54:15who are making a difference to the lives of strangers

0:54:15 > 0:54:17by carrying out 'random acts of kindness' -

0:54:17 > 0:54:21often by giving away money or gifts.

0:54:21 > 0:54:26Jamielee Macready was shopping in Morrisons at the weekend

0:54:26 > 0:54:28when she was approached at a checkout and handed a Christmas

0:54:28 > 0:54:35card containing £20.

0:54:35 > 0:54:40Chrisy Emmerson's mum set up the Big Light Group.

0:54:40 > 0:54:43She and her daughter Kailah have been giving out money to strangers.

0:54:43 > 0:54:47They gave £20 to Jamielee Macready.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49And Chrisy is with Kerrie Moir, another member

0:54:49 > 0:54:54of the Big Light Group.

0:54:54 > 0:55:00Tell me if this is wrong, Kerry, another member of the of the group,

0:55:00 > 0:55:08why don't you introduce yourself?Hi is is Keira and Kerry and Sam and

0:55:08 > 0:55:15Taylor.Thank you all for talking to us. Jamie, tell us what happened.

0:55:15 > 0:55:24Hi.Tell us what happened.So on Friday night I was down to Morrisson

0:55:24 > 0:55:29just to grab a couple of things for tea and I approached the check out

0:55:29 > 0:55:35with my groceries and a lady approached me with an envelope. I

0:55:35 > 0:55:40was confused, as I didn't know the girl. She handed me the envelope and

0:55:40 > 0:55:47I opened it and inside contained a beautiful Christmas card with a very

0:55:47 > 0:55:53generous £20 note. I was confused. And nervous. And I just tried to

0:55:53 > 0:55:59give them it back. I felt as if it was the right thing to do and put it

0:55:59 > 0:56:05towards their group. She just refused. At this point I was...

0:56:05 > 0:56:11Taken back by it really touched. The group is a true inspiration to some

0:56:11 > 0:56:15people in this world, there is not enough kindness. Especially at this

0:56:15 > 0:56:19time of year, there is a lot of cruelty going on in the world.

0:56:19 > 0:56:23People are homeless. People are without families and are on their

0:56:23 > 0:56:30own. For little acts like this puts a smile on your face. It was a true

0:56:30 > 0:56:37inspiration from the group and made me nearly burst out in tears in t

0:56:37 > 0:56:44shop. It was really thoughtful. Do introduce your baby. This is Grace

0:56:44 > 0:56:52Duncan, she is 12 weeks old.She is beautiful. Now Chrissie and Kerry

0:56:52 > 0:56:59and Taylor. Tell us about your motivation for doing this.We just,

0:56:59 > 0:57:05we like to see people happy. It is about it is about giving people back

0:57:05 > 0:57:14in the community a bit of something cheering them up, seeing them happy.

0:57:14 > 0:57:19I like doing it. I think it was me that handed the card. I picked her,

0:57:19 > 0:57:24because she looked so busy. And I approached her, because I thought

0:57:24 > 0:57:30she needed a bit of cheering up. The smile on her face was really what

0:57:30 > 0:57:36gives us the kick out of doing it. Kerry, do you often find that the

0:57:36 > 0:57:43initial reaction as Jamie said is people want to give you back?Yes

0:57:43 > 0:57:48you see how shocked they are. It not something that happens every day in

0:57:48 > 0:57:52today's world it is not something you expect. They're shocked, what

0:57:52 > 0:58:03for me, but why? To see just their happiness is amazing.Why do you

0:58:03 > 0:58:12like doing it?It makes people happy.You're shy?That is all

0:58:12 > 0:58:19right. Taylor, your reaction. What would you say?It's really quite

0:58:19 > 0:58:25overwhelming just to see how like afraid people are to accept it.

0:58:25 > 0:58:30Because even's been so trade that nothing's for free and they just

0:58:30 > 0:58:37don't want to take it, even though it is a gift. But it is always a Gad

0:58:37 > 0:58:44reaction after -- good reaction after that.Well done and a very

0:58:44 > 0:58:53happy Christmas and keep up the good work. Thank you. Bye. More acts of

0:58:53 > 0:58:57kindness in the next hour. News and sport on the way at 10. Before that

0:58:57 > 0:58:58the weather with Simon.

0:58:58 > 0:59:01sport on the way at 10. Before that the weather with Simon. For many of

0:59:01 > 0:59:06us this morning it is cloudy, misty and murky. Similar to what we have

0:59:06 > 0:59:10had for the last couple of days. That will continue for the coming

0:59:10 > 0:59:16days. Seeing as it is the winter Solstice, the shortest day of the

0:59:16 > 0:59:24year, there is some sunshine out there. Across Scotland and the

0:59:24 > 0:59:29north-east of England. But this front is producing cloud and rain

0:59:29 > 0:59:37for northern England. Temperatures nine to ten Celsius. Cooler in the

0:59:37 > 0:59:40far north-east. Tonight we will continue with rain in northern

0:59:40 > 0:59:45England. More rain coming into Wales and the South West. For most the

0:59:45 > 0:59:49cloud and the mist and temperatures above freezing. In the far

0:59:49 > 0:59:53north-east of Scotland a touch of frost. But some sunshine in the

0:59:53 > 0:59:57north-east of Scotland. A few brighter spelling developing towards

0:59:57 > 1:00:02the east of the Pennines. Otherwise it is cloudy, it is misty, there is

1:00:02 > 1:00:06some hill fog and a mild day for many of us. Temperatures about nine

1:00:06 > 1:00:12to 12 Celsius. Chillier again in the far north-east of Scotland.

1:00:19 > 1:00:21Theresa May sacks her closest political ally and deputy,

1:00:21 > 1:00:23Damian Green, after a government inquiry found he made

1:00:23 > 1:00:25"inaccurate and misleading" statements about pornography

1:00:25 > 1:00:26on his office computer.

1:00:26 > 1:00:28One Conservative MP said the Prime Minister

1:00:28 > 1:00:37made the right call.

1:00:37 > 1:00:41Damian Green was judged to have broken the ministerial code and he

1:00:41 > 1:00:47had to pay the price for that. The Prime Minister, quite rightly not

1:00:47 > 1:00:52allowing a lifelong friendship with him to get in the way of making the

1:00:52 > 1:00:56decision for him to resign.

1:00:56 > 1:00:59Plus - Kaci Sullivan from Missouri gave birth five years ago,

1:00:59 > 1:01:01and then began to transition to become a man.

1:01:01 > 1:01:02Last month he gave birth again.

1:01:02 > 1:01:07We'll speak to him in his first broadcast interview here in the UK.

1:01:07 > 1:01:16I'm 32 weeks, so seven months and getting pretty big for.

1:01:16 > 1:01:19I'm 32 weeks, so seven months and getting pretty big for sure.

1:01:19 > 1:01:22If you live up north - you've got less of chance

1:01:22 > 1:01:25of going to a really good school than those down south -

1:01:25 > 1:01:26a new report calls the inequality "shocking" -

1:01:26 > 1:01:35we'll speak to the author and to a headteacher from Bradford.

1:01:35 > 1:01:37Good morning.

1:01:37 > 1:01:44Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

1:01:44 > 1:01:46Good morning.

1:01:46 > 1:01:48Prime Minister Theresa May has sacked Damian Green

1:01:48 > 1:01:50as First Secretary of State amid claims that pornographic

1:01:50 > 1:01:52material was found on a Commons computer in 2008.

1:01:52 > 1:01:55The Prime Minister expressed "deep regret" at Mr Green's departure

1:01:55 > 1:01:58but said his actions "fell short" of the conduct expected

1:01:58 > 1:02:04of a cabinet minister.

1:02:04 > 1:02:09Australian police have arrested two people after a car ploughed into a

1:02:09 > 1:02:14crowd in Melbourne. The car collided with a number of pedestrians on

1:02:14 > 1:02:18Flinders Street. The state Ambulance Service said 14 people have been

1:02:18 > 1:02:22injured and several are in a critical condition. Police have said

1:02:22 > 1:02:29it was a deliberate act but is too early to say whether it is related.

1:02:29 > 1:02:35At this stage we believe it is a deliberate act. However, we do not

1:02:35 > 1:02:41know the motivation and it is still early stages of the investigation.

1:02:41 > 1:02:44Tens of thousands of mothers and babies in England have been harmed

1:02:44 > 1:02:48when receiving maternity care over the last two years. More than a

1:02:48 > 1:02:53quarter of a million incidents were reported. Most were minor, but

1:02:53 > 1:02:58almost a quarter of the incident led to the mother or baby being harmed.

1:02:58 > 1:03:01Catalonians head to the polls today in a closely watched regional

1:03:01 > 1:03:02election called by Spain, following October's controversial

1:03:02 > 1:03:04independence referendum.

1:03:04 > 1:03:06The snap election sees parties who want Catalonia to be

1:03:06 > 1:03:09an independent republic face those who wish it to remain

1:03:09 > 1:03:10a semi-autonomous part of Spain.

1:03:10 > 1:03:18All indications are that the result will be very close.

1:03:18 > 1:03:23South Korea says its soldiers have fired around 20 warning shots at

1:03:23 > 1:03:26North Korean troops who approached the border between the two

1:03:26 > 1:03:29countries. The Defence Ministry in Seoul said the North Koreans

1:03:29 > 1:03:33appeared to be searching for one of the soldiers who had taken advantage

1:03:33 > 1:03:38of thick fog to cross the border and defect to the south.

1:03:38 > 1:03:39A poll

1:03:39 > 1:03:43carried out to the BBC suggests almost one in ten young people in

1:03:43 > 1:03:48the UK have found Billy Maka spent a month sofa surfing because they have

1:03:48 > 1:03:53nowhere else to go. The government says it is providing more than £1

1:03:53 > 1:04:01billion of funding before Twenty20 to reduce all forms of homelessness.

1:04:01 > 1:04:05Ciao's chants of attending a good secondary school in England depends

1:04:05 > 1:04:10on where they live. The study says some deprived areas of London have

1:04:10 > 1:04:13more high performing schools are better off areas in the north and

1:04:13 > 1:04:17north-east of the country. The government says it is investing £280

1:04:17 > 1:04:22million in disadvantaged areas.

1:04:22 > 1:04:34The future of Toys-R-Us1000 SUMMARY HAND BACK is

1:04:36 > 1:04:41failure to agree a deal could put its 3200 staff at risk of

1:04:41 > 1:04:45redundancy, but reports suggest Toys-R-Us has put forward new

1:04:45 > 1:04:48proposals to reach a last-minute deal.

1:04:48 > 1:05:00That is a summary of the last deleted -- the latest BBC News.

1:05:00 > 1:05:13Some reaction to sofa surfing. There are 11 events who are leaving foster

1:05:13 > 1:05:16care across the country, I am hosting the Hackney Christmas

1:05:16 > 1:05:19dinner. Neville from Greater Manchester said

1:05:19 > 1:05:25when I was volunteering at 2014 Glasgow Commonwealth Games, I went

1:05:25 > 1:05:29into a McDonald's and put 30 towns behind the counter so people could

1:05:29 > 1:05:33have breakfast on me. On the Commonwealth Games, this

1:05:33 > 1:05:38reviewer who lives in Cornwall said, can somebody explain how this bid

1:05:38 > 1:05:44for Birmingham is good for me? With austerity and live in costs, how can

1:05:44 > 1:05:48they justify the costs. The legacy is the key question, what happens

1:05:48 > 1:05:54when the show leaves the town. I am sorry, I just don't see it. If you

1:05:54 > 1:06:00are getting into touch, you will be charged at the standard network

1:06:00 > 1:06:02rate. Now the sport.

1:06:02 > 1:06:05In the last half hour - Birmingham has been confirmed

1:06:05 > 1:06:10as the host city for the 2022 Commonwealth Games.

1:06:10 > 1:06:13At a cost of around £750 million, it'll be the most expensive sports

1:06:13 > 1:06:18event to be held in the UK since the London Olympics in 2012.

1:06:18 > 1:06:22Our Midlands reporter Phil Makky watched the announcement.

1:06:22 > 1:06:25What was the reaction in the room because it wasn't the biggest

1:06:25 > 1:06:34surprise?There wasn't much jeopardy when everybody gathered here in

1:06:34 > 1:06:37Birmingham to hear this announcement. It had been heavily

1:06:37 > 1:06:42leaked, probably the worst kept secret but Birmingham was the only

1:06:42 > 1:06:46viable bidder after Durbin was originally given The Games. They

1:06:46 > 1:06:50couldn't meet its financial commitments. The Commonwealth Games

1:06:50 > 1:06:53committee asked other countries to submit bids. Birmingham was

1:06:53 > 1:06:59originally planning to be the host city in 2026, but is probably the

1:06:59 > 1:07:05best city in the best position at short notice to stage such a large

1:07:05 > 1:07:09games because a lot of the facilities already exist. The

1:07:09 > 1:07:15Barclaycard arena and Villa Park. The Alexander Stadium is already an

1:07:15 > 1:07:20international athletic Stadium, but it needs to be improved. The

1:07:20 > 1:07:24capacity of 12,500 needs to go to 40,000 so there will be a lot of

1:07:24 > 1:07:28money that needs to be spent, but less here than other cities. There

1:07:28 > 1:07:32were a lot of children from the arena Academy waving their flags

1:07:32 > 1:07:35when Louise Martin from the Commonwealth Games made the official

1:07:35 > 1:07:39announcement. But it wasn't anything we weren't expecting, no other

1:07:39 > 1:07:43meetings in other cities around the world at the same time that might

1:07:43 > 1:07:46have given a clue. There is still a news conference going on in the

1:07:46 > 1:07:52background at the moment. We have Andy Street, the West Midlands Mayor

1:07:52 > 1:07:56and Ian Ward, the council leader. It is a West Midlands bid to deliver

1:07:56 > 1:08:01The Games in the next four and a half years.We have had messages

1:08:01 > 1:08:05coming into the programme this morning from people saying in the

1:08:05 > 1:08:10age of austerity, where is the £750 million coming from and where is

1:08:10 > 1:08:18going to be spent? Is it the best to put public money at the moment?Out

1:08:18 > 1:08:21of the £750 million, three quarters of it comes from central government.

1:08:21 > 1:08:25Birmingham and the West Midlands needs to find 480 million over four

1:08:25 > 1:08:30and a half years and that is about £40 million a year. Fairly small

1:08:30 > 1:08:34amounts of money in terms of their overall budgets which runs into

1:08:34 > 1:08:38billions of pounds every year. People will be concerned about the

1:08:38 > 1:08:42cost, it has been a tough time for local authorities over the past

1:08:42 > 1:08:52decade. But I have been talking to people for the last couple of months

1:08:52 > 1:08:55and I haven't met a single person on the street in Birmingham or the West

1:08:55 > 1:08:57Midlands who hasn't welcomed the idea. Most people are enthusiastic

1:08:57 > 1:09:00about it here. Birmingham and the West Midlands has been largely

1:09:00 > 1:09:05overlooked and never get anything good going on here. It is much this

1:09:05 > 1:09:11by Richard as a city and region from places like London and elsewhere.

1:09:11 > 1:09:15They see this as an important opportunity to put the place in the

1:09:15 > 1:09:19shop window, get people coming here who will realise what a great place

1:09:19 > 1:09:22it has become and will continue to become over the next few years.

1:09:22 > 1:09:28Thank you very much for an hour. Also a big win for Bristol City last

1:09:28 > 1:09:31night against Manchester United in the League Cup. Catch that and the

1:09:31 > 1:09:37rest of the sports news on our website. Thank you for your breaking

1:09:37 > 1:09:43news from your own personal life the 2017, we will read some more later

1:09:43 > 1:09:51in the programme.

1:09:51 > 1:09:53Prime Minister Theresa May has sacked Damian Green

1:09:53 > 1:09:55as First Secretary of State amid claims that pornographic

1:09:55 > 1:09:57material was found on a Commons computer in 2008.

1:09:57 > 1:10:00The Prime Minister expressed "deep regret" at Mr Green's departure

1:10:00 > 1:10:02but said his actions "fell short" of the conduct expected

1:10:02 > 1:10:04of a cabinet minister.

1:10:04 > 1:10:14He denies viewing or down loading the pornography but said he should

1:10:14 > 1:10:20have been more clear. Damian Green wrote he regretted being asked to

1:10:20 > 1:10:25resign following breaches of the ministerial code. He denied he had

1:10:25 > 1:10:29either downloaded or viewed pornography on his computer in

1:10:29 > 1:10:33parliament, but said he had made statements about misleading people

1:10:33 > 1:10:39about what he knew. Let's get the latest from Norman, why was he

1:10:39 > 1:10:45forced to go?One reason, he lied, as simple as that. Damian Green was

1:10:45 > 1:10:50not forced to quit because of the pornography on his office computers.

1:10:50 > 1:10:54An enquiry was unable to conclude whether he had downloaded it or

1:10:54 > 1:10:59whether he had viewed it. He wasn't forced to go because of the

1:10:59 > 1:11:03allegations from Kate Maltby that he behaved inappropriately towards her.

1:11:03 > 1:11:08She said she had a meeting with him in a pub and was looking for career

1:11:08 > 1:11:13advice and he touched her knee and talked about how his wife was very

1:11:13 > 1:11:19understanding. Enquiries said, she says that, he says that. Although

1:11:19 > 1:11:25the enquiry describes her evidence as credible, he went because he

1:11:25 > 1:11:29dispensed pork pies. He lied about what the police had told him and his

1:11:29 > 1:11:33lawyers that pornography had been found on his pornographer, even

1:11:33 > 1:11:39though last month he said he knew nothing about it. Where are we? This

1:11:39 > 1:11:43morning, he was out and about as usual. Looking not back down in the

1:11:43 > 1:11:54mouth as he left home.How do you feel about being spoken to by the

1:11:54 > 1:12:02police?I am not going to comment. Wider July to the public, Mr Green?

1:12:02 > 1:12:08Have you let the Prime Minister down, Mr Green?

1:12:21 > 1:12:27So how does this play out the Theresa May? She lost her closest,

1:12:27 > 1:12:33political ally, lost her number two in government, lost a third minister

1:12:33 > 1:12:38in a weeks. But a lot of Tories are saying, it isn't so bad because Mrs

1:12:38 > 1:12:43May has basically done the deed. She sacked her closest political ally,

1:12:43 > 1:12:48that shows guts, it shows leadership. This in to this Tory MP

1:12:48 > 1:12:53this morning.The government is in a good place, so is the Prime Minister

1:12:53 > 1:12:57following the movement forward on Brexit. There is strength and depth

1:12:57 > 1:13:00in the Conservative Party and it is an opportunity for the Prime

1:13:00 > 1:13:04Minister to look at the wider picture and decide if she wants to

1:13:04 > 1:13:08replace Damian Green or have a wider reshuffle and a refreshing of the

1:13:08 > 1:13:13government for the New Year.But there will remain question is

1:13:13 > 1:13:18whether Mr Green has been held to account over the allegations of

1:13:18 > 1:13:21inappropriate behaviour. And Jess Phillips, the Labour MP, who has

1:13:21 > 1:13:26been at the centre of the pressure to get this culture changed at

1:13:26 > 1:13:31Westminster, this morning was sounding a cautious note.His

1:13:31 > 1:13:36resignation and a consequence for inaction sends a very, very clear

1:13:36 > 1:13:40message to young men and women who work in and around politics, to feel

1:13:40 > 1:13:45that if they do come forward, there is a chance there will be

1:13:45 > 1:13:49consequences, there is a chance justice will be done. Up until this

1:13:49 > 1:13:52point, it had felt a little bit like, what is the point, nobody is

1:13:52 > 1:13:58listening.Mrs May is en route to Poland but when she lands there will

1:13:58 > 1:14:03be a press conference so we will get her version of events. One of the

1:14:03 > 1:14:08interesting things is, does she seek to replace Damian Green by

1:14:08 > 1:14:13appointing another first secretary? Does she seek to go for a bigger

1:14:13 > 1:14:19reshuffle to show she has regained some authority? We may get a sense

1:14:19 > 1:14:23as to whether Mrs May has managed to rediscover her merger by the way she

1:14:23 > 1:14:28responds to it and whether she feels sufficiently self-confident to go in

1:14:28 > 1:14:31for a much bigger reshuffle in the New Year.Thank you very much,

1:14:31 > 1:14:35Norman.

1:14:35 > 1:14:42Some really nice messages from you about acts of kindness. A man on

1:14:42 > 1:14:47Twitter has sent me this photograph, on his way to work in Bristol and it

1:14:47 > 1:14:52is a photograph of a wall. People have put post-it notes where they

1:14:52 > 1:14:56have talked about random acts of kindness that have been going on in

1:14:56 > 1:15:04Bristol. It includes things like someone told me I had a nice smile.

1:15:04 > 1:15:09My wife told me she loves me. It is really lovely. I will try and

1:15:09 > 1:15:13download the picture so you can see it properly and see more of the

1:15:13 > 1:15:19messages. Thank you for sending me that.

1:15:19 > 1:15:22Kaci Sullivan, 30, has become the first person in the world

1:15:22 > 1:15:25to give birth while living as both genders, four years after he began

1:15:25 > 1:15:26the transition from female to male.

1:15:26 > 1:15:29Kaci conceived with partner Steven, 27, after a break

1:15:29 > 1:15:30from taking male hormones.

1:15:30 > 1:15:32He underwent a C-section following seven days in labour

1:15:32 > 1:15:41before welcoming Phoenix who weighs a healthy eight pounds nine ounces.

1:15:41 > 1:15:49Here are a couple of videos he did during his pregnancy.

1:15:49 > 1:15:58I'm 32 weeks. Getting big. Hello, I'm now eight months pregnant. A bit

1:15:58 > 1:16:04more than 37 weeks. Sorry my bed looks like a bomb exploded on it in

1:16:04 > 1:16:10the background. I have been studying all day.

1:16:10 > 1:16:13I finally had a Caesarean section at about 2.00pm yesterday, so

1:16:13 > 1:16:15baby is not quite 24-hour is old, yet.

1:16:15 > 1:16:18Kaci, thank you so much for talking to us and congratulations,

1:16:18 > 1:16:20I gather you got married yesterday?

1:16:20 > 1:16:21I did, yes.

1:16:21 > 1:16:22Wow!

1:16:22 > 1:16:23How is that?

1:16:23 > 1:16:24Sorry, what was that?

1:16:24 > 1:16:27How did that happen?

1:16:27 > 1:16:31Well, we just got married before a judge.

1:16:31 > 1:16:34We had had a social ceremony in the summer with our friends

1:16:34 > 1:16:37and family and then it was just something that we still

1:16:37 > 1:16:40needed to take care of.

1:16:40 > 1:16:43It was nice it was before a judge, it was in the capital,

1:16:43 > 1:16:45Madison has an absolutely gorgeous Capitol Building.

1:16:45 > 1:16:47It was nice, we had a few witnesses.

1:16:47 > 1:16:50It was really beautiful.

1:16:50 > 1:16:55It's clearly the middle of the night there, or sort of 2 in the morning,

1:16:55 > 1:16:57so Phoenix at five-and-a-half weeks old is sleeping soundly.

1:16:57 > 1:17:01How is Phoenix doing?

1:17:01 > 1:17:04They're doing fantastic.

1:17:04 > 1:17:07They're really happy, they're gaining weight,

1:17:07 > 1:17:11they have a great focus and make eye contact.

1:17:11 > 1:17:14They reach their arms out to be held, they're cuddly, just great,

1:17:14 > 1:17:16everything a baby would be.

1:17:16 > 1:17:21Tell us about the birth because I understand

1:17:21 > 1:17:23you were in labour seven days before you had a c-section?

1:17:23 > 1:17:24Yes.

1:17:24 > 1:17:27There was a lot of labour for sure.

1:17:27 > 1:17:29My midwife knew somebody who was in labour for two weeks

1:17:29 > 1:17:31and said it could have been even worse.

1:17:31 > 1:17:36I did end up opting for a c-section.

1:17:36 > 1:17:39I just was ready for it to be done.

1:17:39 > 1:17:44The labour was intense for sure but the birth

1:17:44 > 1:17:46was beautiful even though it was a c-section and unexpected.

1:17:46 > 1:17:48It's always scary to go under the knife.

1:17:48 > 1:17:51It wasn't my first c-section, my first child was a Caesarean

1:17:51 > 1:17:55as well so it wasn't like I'd never done it before.

1:17:55 > 1:17:58It was different though because when I had my first child

1:17:58 > 1:18:00I wasn't able to see anything so I felt disconnected

1:18:00 > 1:18:02from the birth experience.

1:18:02 > 1:18:05With this c-section there was a monitor so I was able to see

1:18:05 > 1:18:09the baby being taken out.

1:18:09 > 1:18:12I saw the little mouth open as I heard the scream.

1:18:12 > 1:18:15It made it very real for me.

1:18:15 > 1:18:18It was a beautiful experience and they bring the baby over

1:18:18 > 1:18:21to you and while I was laying there, I was still able to get

1:18:21 > 1:18:24to see my husband looking at the baby and the baby looking

1:18:24 > 1:18:27at my husband and it was just lovely, it was like the baby

1:18:27 > 1:18:29knows that's their dad, it was a gorgeous moment

1:18:29 > 1:18:32and I really couldn't ask for more.

1:18:32 > 1:18:36Many congratulations on the birth of Phoenix.

1:18:36 > 1:18:40You have been taking the male hormone testosterone to help

1:18:40 > 1:18:44transition from a woman to a man but you took a break from that

1:18:44 > 1:18:46and your periods began again which is when you conceived

1:18:46 > 1:18:47with your partner Steven?

1:18:47 > 1:18:48Correct.

1:18:48 > 1:18:49Exactly.

1:18:49 > 1:18:53How did you react when you realised you were pregnant this time?

1:18:53 > 1:18:54I was so happy.

1:18:54 > 1:18:56I was relieved.

1:18:56 > 1:19:01We'd only been trying for six months which,

1:19:01 > 1:19:03in the grand scheme of things, isn't very long at all.

1:19:03 > 1:19:07But it was still long enough for me to be completely worried about it

1:19:07 > 1:19:10wasn't going to happen, that we weren't going to be able to.

1:19:10 > 1:19:16There is not a lot of information out there so there wasn't

1:19:16 > 1:19:18a whole lot to go out there with and reassure myself

1:19:18 > 1:19:23and say, this is how it went for this person or this

1:19:23 > 1:19:26is what I can do to increase my chances so it feels a walk

1:19:26 > 1:19:30in the blind and taking shots in the dark which is why it's

1:19:30 > 1:19:32so important to create this contact so it's there for other people.

1:19:32 > 1:19:35So I was overjoyed when I finally had a pregnancy test.

1:19:35 > 1:19:42It was the third one we'd had in a row.

1:19:42 > 1:19:45A lot of times that's common, you will have a positive pregnancy

1:19:45 > 1:19:47test and it doesn't stick so I was really grateful.

1:19:47 > 1:19:50I think you are always grateful when you are trying and it happens.

1:19:50 > 1:19:52As the pregnancy progressed, what response did you get

1:19:52 > 1:19:55from people when they saw you, a man with a pregnancy bump?

1:19:55 > 1:19:58You know, people don't really assume that.

1:19:58 > 1:20:01If it's a stranger, I didn't have a single incidence

1:20:01 > 1:20:03where somebody puts two and two together and realises that's

1:20:03 > 1:20:06what it was or if they did they certainly didn't communicate

1:20:06 > 1:20:11that to me or address me with that in any way.

1:20:11 > 1:20:15But people certainly were intrigued by it.

1:20:15 > 1:20:17Especially as it got near the end of it.

1:20:17 > 1:20:21People noticed the shape, for sure, and people stared and looked at each

1:20:21 > 1:20:27other and you sometimes see people commenting like, what is up

1:20:27 > 1:20:32with that, but nobody ever addressed me and I don't think that

1:20:32 > 1:20:33anybody probably made that assumption.

1:20:33 > 1:20:35Maybe some people did, maybe some thought it was weird

1:20:35 > 1:20:37and wondered why I looked like that.

1:20:37 > 1:20:39Were you ever anxious about going out?

1:20:39 > 1:20:40Yes, absolutely.

1:20:40 > 1:20:43For the last trimester, I didn't want to leave the house.

1:20:43 > 1:20:46The last four weeks, it was like pulling teeth

1:20:46 > 1:20:50to try to get me to go out in public at all, it made me too anxious.

1:20:50 > 1:20:52I didn't want to deal with it.

1:20:52 > 1:20:53What made you anxious?

1:20:53 > 1:20:54What were you worried about?

1:20:54 > 1:20:57Just the attention from people, you know.

1:20:57 > 1:21:01Because it literally like, I couldn't go anywhere

1:21:01 > 1:21:03without people looking, which makes sense, I was hugely

1:21:03 > 1:21:05pregnant but I just didn't...

1:21:05 > 1:21:10I'm kind of a high anxiety person and I don't...

1:21:10 > 1:21:14It's just, even going into the grocery store,

1:21:14 > 1:21:18when you can't do that without people looking and noticing.

1:21:18 > 1:21:21It's more preferable to stay at home.

1:21:21 > 1:21:24You will know that online there have been some derogatory

1:21:24 > 1:21:25comments towards you.

1:21:25 > 1:21:27Yes.

1:21:27 > 1:21:29I've read some.

1:21:29 > 1:21:31Some say that it's unnatural, that it's a sick joke,

1:21:31 > 1:21:33that you are doing it for money.

1:21:33 > 1:21:37How to you react and respond to those kind of comments?

1:21:37 > 1:21:38I just laugh at them.

1:21:38 > 1:21:43I don't bother reading them.

1:21:43 > 1:21:50You know, you will find that you can be anyone doing anything and there's

1:21:50 > 1:21:52going to be a certain set of the populus that takes

1:21:52 > 1:21:54issue with you doing it.

1:21:54 > 1:21:56The more controversial what you are doing is the more

1:21:56 > 1:21:59that it can be expected but I don't know, it just doesn't

1:21:59 > 1:22:00really bother me.

1:22:00 > 1:22:02I don't particularly care, it's their problem,

1:22:02 > 1:22:05it's a personal issue, it doesn't affect me.

1:22:05 > 1:22:08I don't think a whole lot of people have babies for money.

1:22:08 > 1:22:12I think a lot of times it kind of goes the opposite of that,

1:22:12 > 1:22:14babies are expensive, demanding little creatures.

1:22:14 > 1:22:16People want to believe things like that, that's

1:22:16 > 1:22:17entirely up to them.

1:22:17 > 1:22:20I just feel sorry for them really.

1:22:20 > 1:22:22You have given birth before five years ago

1:22:22 > 1:22:23when you had your son Grayson.

1:22:23 > 1:22:26At that time you were living as a woman.

1:22:26 > 1:22:28Give us some insight into what the difference

1:22:28 > 1:22:31for you was, giving birth as a woman, and giving birth

1:22:31 > 1:22:34transitioning to be a man?

1:22:34 > 1:22:35Right, yes.

1:22:35 > 1:22:38You know, I think that there is a lot of interesting

1:22:38 > 1:22:39ideas wrapped up in that.

1:22:39 > 1:22:43That's why I'm writing a book about it right now.

1:22:43 > 1:22:45I think that the biggest thing to address is that

1:22:45 > 1:22:48whole living as a woman, living as a man thing, right,

1:22:48 > 1:22:51because I've always identified the way that I've identified,

1:22:51 > 1:22:53there was never a time I was living as a woman,

1:22:53 > 1:22:58I was presenting that way and that is what people assumed.

1:22:58 > 1:23:02But they were very different experiences for sure.

1:23:02 > 1:23:05Nothing about my first pregnancy felt hopeful or within my control.

1:23:05 > 1:23:10My body didn't look anything like I wanted it to.

1:23:10 > 1:23:13I was wrestling with the fact that that was my reality,

1:23:13 > 1:23:16I didn't tell anybody, I didn't know if I ever would.

1:23:16 > 1:23:19I was so depressed.

1:23:19 > 1:23:23I was so depressed I didn't know if I would be able to bond

1:23:23 > 1:23:24with the baby once I had him.

1:23:24 > 1:23:27I was so terrified, what is my life going to look like,

1:23:27 > 1:23:30and this baby's life going to look like.

1:23:30 > 1:23:32The pregnancy itself was an oopsy pregnancy,

1:23:32 > 1:23:36I wasn't trying for it, I didn't mean for that to happen

1:23:36 > 1:23:38and the way I thought about myself and perceived myself

1:23:38 > 1:23:40was so different.

1:23:40 > 1:23:44I've changed a lot in the last five-and-a-half years in the way

1:23:44 > 1:23:48that I think about what sex means, what does gender identity mean,

1:23:48 > 1:23:54what is a gender role, how are those things defining

1:23:54 > 1:23:56and how do they relate to each other and exist

1:23:56 > 1:23:59on their own as separate concepts.

1:23:59 > 1:24:03So that really changed the way I think about pregnancy

1:24:03 > 1:24:10and what I think about what it means to have, you know, this set of first

1:24:10 > 1:24:14and secondary sex characteristics or not and how much gender can

1:24:14 > 1:24:22you really assign to the body parts someone is born with when we have

1:24:22 > 1:24:25intersex people and transgender identities whilst the clear that

1:24:25 > 1:24:27most things go together in a predictable way that's not

1:24:27 > 1:24:29always the case and it's not true and there's always room

1:24:29 > 1:24:32for variety and variation.

1:24:32 > 1:24:38You have described being depressed at the time of your last pregnancy

1:24:38 > 1:24:41when you, as you put it, were presenting at a woman.

1:24:41 > 1:24:44Did you think perhaps the pregnancy might make you more

1:24:44 > 1:24:50connected to being a woman?

1:24:50 > 1:24:53Yes, I definitely held out that hope for sure.

1:24:53 > 1:24:56I've talked about that before.

1:24:56 > 1:25:02I hoped it would resonate with me and make it go away.

1:25:02 > 1:25:06I don't think anybody elects to be transgender and I knew that,

1:25:06 > 1:25:13to make my anxiety and misery go away, what coming out would entail.

1:25:13 > 1:25:15It's crushing, the anxiety of that, thinking about everything that's

1:25:15 > 1:25:17going to change and thinking about everything that

1:25:17 > 1:25:19you stand to lose.

1:25:19 > 1:25:25People avoid it and put it off.

1:25:25 > 1:25:28So, yes, I was hoping that I would be cured of it, if you will.

1:25:28 > 1:25:32That definitely didn't happen.

1:25:32 > 1:25:35I didn't have that anxiety this time hanging over my head,

1:25:35 > 1:25:37I wasn't trying to make this pregnancy into something that

1:25:37 > 1:25:40could never be for me.

1:25:40 > 1:25:44This time I was trying to make it work for my own expectations

1:25:44 > 1:25:48and at least a lot more things were in my control, you know,

1:25:48 > 1:25:51I chose to have this baby, I wanted to as.

1:25:51 > 1:25:54It was an experience I was I was emotionally prepared

1:25:54 > 1:25:57for this time and I was able to have it looking and feeling the way

1:25:57 > 1:25:59that I wanted to feel.

1:25:59 > 1:26:01I had the support of people perceiving me that way.

1:26:01 > 1:26:02Yes.

1:26:02 > 1:26:03You know...

1:26:03 > 1:26:05So generally just much more happier in yourself?

1:26:05 > 1:26:08Yes, absolutely.

1:26:08 > 1:26:11And I didn't feel like I was committing this horrible act

1:26:11 > 1:26:14towards this little person I was supposed to be

1:26:14 > 1:26:18bringing into the world.

1:26:18 > 1:26:22That's a big thing to play such a big part in choosing to be

1:26:22 > 1:26:23that miserable every day because you don't want

1:26:23 > 1:26:27to deal with the reality of who you are and what that means

1:26:27 > 1:26:28for you life, you know.

1:26:28 > 1:26:31It's a big weight to carry around, especially when it affects

1:26:31 > 1:26:32somebody so helpless.

1:26:32 > 1:26:35You are supposed to give everything to them and be willing

1:26:35 > 1:26:38to sacrifice for them.

1:26:38 > 1:26:41Can I ask then, if you don't believe the pregnancy

1:26:41 > 1:26:44is an inherently feminine thing?

1:26:44 > 1:26:46Right.

1:26:46 > 1:26:47You don't?

1:26:47 > 1:26:48You're asking me why I think that?

1:26:48 > 1:26:50Yes.

1:26:50 > 1:26:55Because how can it be, you know?

1:26:55 > 1:27:00If there are people with masculine gender identities who're

1:27:00 > 1:27:03wanting to have babies and, believe me, I'm not the only one,

1:27:03 > 1:27:06I'm sure in the United States alone, thousands of transmen have

1:27:06 > 1:27:09babies every year.

1:27:09 > 1:27:11There's a lot of people online in private social spaces who're

1:27:11 > 1:27:15having those experiences and sharing them.

1:27:15 > 1:27:17Then it can't be.

1:27:17 > 1:27:21The other thing you have to consider is that gender doesn't have to do

1:27:21 > 1:27:25with their first or secondary gender characteristics, it has

1:27:25 > 1:27:27to to with your brain's preconceived notions and expectations

1:27:27 > 1:27:31about what your body is going to be like, you know.

1:27:31 > 1:27:39It's the same way as a baby born without limbs will still maybe get

1:27:39 > 1:27:41phantom sensations in their arms and legs even though they'd never

1:27:41 > 1:27:45had them because your brain is wired to expect your body to have limbs.

1:27:45 > 1:27:48Do you accept Kaci that for some people that might be difficult

1:27:48 > 1:27:50to hear you say pregnancy is not inherently feminine because pretty

1:27:50 > 1:27:52much the whole of modern civilisation sees pregnancy

1:27:52 > 1:27:53as a female thing?

1:27:53 > 1:28:02That's true.

1:28:02 > 1:28:06But we see things in a lot of binary way even though there's

1:28:06 > 1:28:08indisputable scientific evidence that says sex and gender exist

1:28:08 > 1:28:09on a spectrum, you know.

1:28:09 > 1:28:12Intersex people, transgender people, so much goes into the way that

1:28:12 > 1:28:19someone's body looks and the way that they see themselves.

1:28:19 > 1:28:21Those two things aren't mutually exclusive and they are not

1:28:21 > 1:28:23interconnected to the same degree that I think people tend

1:28:23 > 1:28:26to assume that they are.

1:28:26 > 1:28:29I think there is more education and more awareness

1:28:29 > 1:28:32and more language, that's the other thing too.

1:28:32 > 1:28:36A lot of people can't separate a gender role from gender identity

1:28:36 > 1:28:39and a lot of people can't separate gender identity from sex.

1:28:39 > 1:28:45So of course people, I can understand when they're

1:28:45 > 1:28:47confused and when there's limited availability of scope of what it

1:28:47 > 1:28:49means to be transgender.

1:28:49 > 1:28:52Then we have people's religious beliefs on top of that that

1:28:52 > 1:28:54filter what they see, think and feel about it.

1:28:54 > 1:28:57So naturally, it's going to be complicated.

1:28:57 > 1:29:00But I think there's been a lot of things over the course of human

1:29:00 > 1:29:10history that have been complicated and difficult for us to understand.

1:29:15 > 1:29:18I have no doubts that eventually everyone will be on the same page.

1:29:18 > 1:29:19OK.

1:29:19 > 1:29:20We have already referred to your five-and-a-half-year-old

1:29:20 > 1:29:22Grayson, your little boy.

1:29:22 > 1:29:24Your new baby Phoenix, you have decided to bring Phoenix up

1:29:24 > 1:29:27as gender neutral and I noticed at the beginning of our

1:29:27 > 1:29:29conversation, you talked about Phoenix, you didn't use

1:29:29 > 1:29:31he or she, you said yes "they're doing really well".

1:29:31 > 1:29:34You said "they're bonding" and so on and so forth,

1:29:34 > 1:29:35you didn't use he or she.

1:29:35 > 1:29:39Why have you made that decision?

1:29:39 > 1:29:41Well, we're not going to raise them throughout their entire

1:29:41 > 1:29:43childhood that way.

1:29:43 > 1:29:45It's about personal autonomy and asking yourself if we can't

1:29:45 > 1:29:47decide what someone's gender identity is going to be

1:29:47 > 1:29:50and what their preferred pronouns are going to be and how they're

1:29:50 > 1:29:53going to see themselves based on their genitals, you know,

1:29:53 > 1:30:00we can make a guess, we'd probably be right most

1:30:00 > 1:30:04of the time but enough of the time we'll be wrong that it's not not

1:30:04 > 1:30:05a good idea just for that reason.

1:30:05 > 1:30:08I just don't think it's something for me to decide for them

1:30:08 > 1:30:09or share with other people.

1:30:09 > 1:30:12I think that by the time they're anywhere between 18

1:30:12 > 1:30:15months and four years old, we'll probably have a real good idea

1:30:15 > 1:30:18of who they are and, at that time, I think it will be more appropriate

1:30:18 > 1:30:20to start using a gender pronoun.

1:30:20 > 1:30:21I think that...

1:30:21 > 1:30:23Sorry, you know there will be people listening

1:30:23 > 1:30:27to you speak right now saying, well you already have a good idea

1:30:27 > 1:30:29because they've either been born with boys genitals

1:30:29 > 1:30:30or girls genitals.

1:30:30 > 1:30:33True.

1:30:33 > 1:30:42And by allowing gender neutrality it could be tonne fusing if not

1:30:42 > 1:30:44And by allowing gender neutrality it could be confusing if not

1:30:44 > 1:30:46distressing for your child as they grow up?

1:30:46 > 1:30:49What point does that really have anyway, why are we concerned

1:30:49 > 1:30:52whether a child is male or female unless there's some attempts

1:30:52 > 1:30:53to sexualise them, you know.

1:30:53 > 1:30:54So...

1:30:54 > 1:30:55Perhaps because it's more straightforward

1:30:55 > 1:30:57and simple for a child, easier to grasp,

1:30:57 > 1:30:58as you are growing up?

1:30:58 > 1:31:01Well, I don't think that children have a tendency

1:31:01 > 1:31:04to gender themselves a whole lot, you know.

1:31:04 > 1:31:07I don't think there's going to be any damage done to them

1:31:07 > 1:31:10because they were able to choose that for themselves, you know,

1:31:10 > 1:31:15especially being so small.

1:31:15 > 1:31:18Again, people saying, there's nothing to decide,

1:31:18 > 1:31:20once again that 's the confusion between merging gender identity

1:31:20 > 1:31:23and sex, that's just somebody not understanding that there is more

1:31:23 > 1:31:27at play than just those genitals, right, that's not the only thing

1:31:27 > 1:31:30that dictates the sense of gender for that person, it more that

1:31:30 > 1:31:34person, it has well more to do with what is going

1:31:34 > 1:31:42on between their ears and what their brain expects.

1:31:42 > 1:31:43Yes.

1:31:43 > 1:31:45And how they built their core personality based on that.

1:31:45 > 1:31:48You know all about that because of the struggles you had

1:31:48 > 1:31:49as you were growing up?

1:31:49 > 1:31:51Yes, exactly.

1:31:51 > 1:31:53I do have that benefit of having that lived experience,

1:31:53 > 1:31:57so perhaps it does make it more relatable for me.

1:31:57 > 1:31:58I don't think it's impossible for people

1:31:58 > 1:32:00to understand, I really don't.

1:32:00 > 1:32:05I do think it's worth explaining Kaci how difficult

1:32:05 > 1:32:08that can be for somebody because there are still some people

1:32:08 > 1:32:10who do not understand the depth of anxiety and trauma

1:32:10 > 1:32:13and potentially self-harm that somebody can experience

1:32:13 > 1:32:19when they look one way but feel another?

1:32:19 > 1:32:22Oh, yes, sure.

1:32:22 > 1:32:26Absolutely.

1:32:26 > 1:32:30I don't think that people are incapable of understanding that

1:32:30 > 1:32:33at the same time but I can certainly relate with how confusing

1:32:33 > 1:32:35that might be, you know.

1:32:35 > 1:32:38Just like for me, it was very difficult for me to understand

1:32:38 > 1:32:40what white privilege was at first.

1:32:40 > 1:32:45That is not an easy concept for me to grassp and honestly,

1:32:45 > 1:32:47I was bothered by that at first, you know, what's this,

1:32:47 > 1:32:50how do I feel about that, but the more I've educated myself

1:32:50 > 1:32:52aboutlet that, the more I understand it.

1:32:52 > 1:32:55Will I ever understand what it feels like to be a person

1:32:55 > 1:32:58of colour completely - no, no, I will not, but I can

1:32:58 > 1:33:02educate myself and listen and try to be a good advocate

1:33:02 > 1:33:06and I can, I can choose to default to what people of colour have to say

1:33:06 > 1:33:09about their experiences when I've confused or don't understand.

1:33:09 > 1:33:12I think that same thing could be applied to someone

1:33:12 > 1:33:17who doesn't understand gender variation, you know.

1:33:17 > 1:33:20There is resources out there to educate yourself.

1:33:20 > 1:33:27The problem comes when you decide to be transphobia,

1:33:27 > 1:33:29when you decide to be racist.

1:33:29 > 1:33:32That is the issue.

1:33:32 > 1:33:34If you are brought up thinking it's OK to be racist

1:33:34 > 1:33:37or it's even right to be, you are going to be confused

1:33:37 > 1:33:42and a lot of people grow up to think it's OK to be transphobic and even

1:33:42 > 1:33:45that's the right way to be, yes, they are going to be confused.

1:33:45 > 1:33:48People learn at different rates than others, but I do think over

1:33:48 > 1:33:51time more and more people will understand and it will be less

1:33:51 > 1:33:54confusing because we'll have more social context for it.

1:33:54 > 1:33:56Right now people are taking shots in the dark,

1:33:56 > 1:33:59they don't have the framework to be understand it.

1:33:59 > 1:34:01That is why you doing the show is important,

1:34:01 > 1:34:04that's why me writing my book is important and putting the blog

1:34:04 > 1:34:07out there because people start to understand more,

1:34:07 > 1:34:09they have that framework, they have something to put

1:34:09 > 1:34:11it against, you know, then at least there's

1:34:11 > 1:34:13hope for understanding.

1:34:13 > 1:34:15But right now, there's just not enough out there, I think,

1:34:15 > 1:34:18for people to understand as much as they want to.

1:34:18 > 1:34:19That will change.

1:34:19 > 1:34:29It will.

1:34:40 > 1:34:45The Prime Minister has sacked Damian Green over lies he told about having

1:34:45 > 1:34:53pornographic material on his ministerial computer.

1:34:53 > 1:34:55Australian police have arrested two people after a car

1:34:55 > 1:34:56into a crowd in Melbourne.

1:34:56 > 1:34:59The car "collided with a number of pedestrians" on Flinders Street,

1:34:59 > 1:35:03a busy junction in the centre of the city.

1:35:03 > 1:35:11The state ambulance service say 14 people

1:35:11 > 1:35:14have been injured and several are in a critical condition.

1:35:14 > 1:35:17Police have said it was a deliberate act but it is too early to say

1:35:17 > 1:35:18whether it was terrorist-related.

1:35:18 > 1:35:24At this stage, we believe it is a deliberate act but we don't know the

1:35:24 > 1:35:29motivation and it is still an early stage of the investigation.

1:35:29 > 1:35:32Tens of thousands of mothers and babies in England have been harmed

1:35:32 > 1:35:34when receiving maternity care over the last two years.

1:35:34 > 1:35:36More than 100 incidents were reported.

1:35:36 > 1:35:39Most were minor but almost a quarter of the

1:35:39 > 1:35:42incidents led to the mother or baby being harmed.

1:35:42 > 1:35:46Catalonians head to the polls today in a closely watched regional

1:35:46 > 1:35:48election called by Spain, following October's controversial

1:35:48 > 1:35:51independence referendum.

1:35:51 > 1:35:54The snap election sees parties who want Catalonia to be

1:35:54 > 1:35:58an independent republic face those who wish it to remain

1:35:58 > 1:36:00a semi-autonomous part of Spain.

1:36:00 > 1:36:07All indications are that the result will be very close.

1:36:07 > 1:36:16South Korea says its soldiers have fired around 20 warning shots at

1:36:16 > 1:36:18North Korean troops who had approached the border

1:36:18 > 1:36:19between the two countries.

1:36:19 > 1:36:23The Defence Ministry in Seoul said the North Koreans

1:36:23 > 1:36:26appeared to be searching for one of their soldiers who had taken

1:36:26 > 1:36:28advantage of thick fog to cross the border and

1:36:28 > 1:36:30defect to the south.

1:36:30 > 1:36:32Here's some sport now with Catherine.

1:36:32 > 1:36:35Birmingham has been confirmed as the host city for the 2022

1:36:35 > 1:36:36Commonwealth Games.

1:36:36 > 1:36:39There are now guarantees in place over the financing of the event,

1:36:39 > 1:36:41which, at around £750 million, will be the most expensive sports

1:36:41 > 1:36:45event to be held in the UK since the 2012 Olympics.

1:36:45 > 1:36:49Bristol City have knocked out the holders Manchester United

1:36:49 > 1:36:51in the quarterfinals of the League Cup -

1:36:51 > 1:36:54Korey Smith with an injury time winner for the Championship side.

1:36:54 > 1:36:56They'll face Manchester City and it'll be Chelsea-Arsenal

1:36:56 > 1:37:00in the other semifinal.

1:37:00 > 1:37:03Celtic are back to winning ways, after their 69-match unbeaten run

1:37:03 > 1:37:06was ended at the weekend - they beat Partick Thistle 2-0,

1:37:06 > 1:37:09to go five points clear again at the top of the Scottish Premiership.

1:37:09 > 1:37:12And Marion Bartoli says she's inspired by the Williams sisters,

1:37:12 > 1:37:16as she prepares to return to tennis at the age of 33, having announced

1:37:16 > 1:37:23her retirement four years ago.

1:37:23 > 1:37:30Those are the sports headlines, Victoria.

1:37:30 > 1:37:32A child's chances of attending a high-performing secondary school

1:37:32 > 1:37:33depend heavily on where they live.

1:37:33 > 1:37:35That's according to a report by the think-thank,

1:37:35 > 1:37:42the Education Policy Institute, which says that he regional divide

1:37:42 > 1:37:46in access to good schools in England is getting wider.

1:37:46 > 1:37:49It says that families living in London have an increasing chance

1:37:49 > 1:37:52of living near a good school, while those in parts of the north

1:37:52 > 1:37:54and north east are increasingly unlikely to have such

1:37:54 > 1:37:56good places available.

1:37:56 > 1:37:58Let's talk now to the former Education minister David Laws, who's

1:37:58 > 1:38:01chairman of the Education Policy institute and to Adrian Kneeshaw,

1:38:01 > 1:38:04who's the head teacher of Carlton Bolling College in Bradford.

1:38:04 > 1:38:10Thank you both for talking to us. David, what did you find?We looked

1:38:10 > 1:38:15at the availability of really high quality secondary school places

1:38:15 > 1:38:20throughout England and we have some fantastic schools. But what we found

1:38:20 > 1:38:24is the availability is much higher in areas such as London and the

1:38:24 > 1:38:29south-east, where in some areas, seven in ten of the secondary school

1:38:29 > 1:38:34places are in high performing schools. But in much of the North,

1:38:34 > 1:38:39North East and the Midlands, we find areas where it is really difficult

1:38:39 > 1:38:43for children and parents to get into really high performing secondary

1:38:43 > 1:38:49schools. Actually, the worrying thing is that divide has been

1:38:49 > 1:38:54opening up, it has been getting wider over recent years.Why is

1:38:54 > 1:38:59there such a disparity?I think London used to be one of the parts

1:38:59 > 1:39:04of the country which was doing really badly in terms of education,

1:39:04 > 1:39:10going back 15, 20 years. It has had, from successive governments, every

1:39:10 > 1:39:17form of intervention, from extra money to teachers coming into the

1:39:17 > 1:39:23profession. More reform of the school system. That has produced, it

1:39:23 > 1:39:26seems, very impressive results. But in the rest of the country, there

1:39:26 > 1:39:31hasn't been that degree of support. A school's improvement strategy,

1:39:31 > 1:39:35that relies on some of the best schools helping others nearby to

1:39:35 > 1:39:40improve, may be good for the geographic areas that have lots of

1:39:40 > 1:39:43high performing schools, but it is much tougher if you are in those

1:39:43 > 1:39:49areas that don't start with the really good base.Adrian, thank you

1:39:49 > 1:39:57for talking to others, how do you react to this as a teacher of her --

1:39:57 > 1:40:04headteacher of a college in Bradford.A lot of it is down to the

1:40:04 > 1:40:09accountability, if you have a school with a lower intake on entry, it was

1:40:09 > 1:40:15hard to get high and the attainment. One of the progress and eight

1:40:15 > 1:40:19measures, you have results in the top 5% and we were recently judged

1:40:19 > 1:40:25outstanding. I think David makes good points about the money because

1:40:25 > 1:40:30London has had a lot of money pumped into it. Areas within London have

1:40:30 > 1:40:36had £7,000 plus for each student, for their funding, whereas other

1:40:36 > 1:40:40parts of the country didn't get half of that money. Time to buy 200

1:40:40 > 1:40:44students in an average sized secondary school, is a big disparity

1:40:44 > 1:40:51in funding. Also, the level of aspiration in London, it is like a

1:40:51 > 1:40:57world capital, so students that live in London, can see on their

1:40:57 > 1:41:02doorstep, the opportunities they can have. But if you live in Barnsley,

1:41:02 > 1:41:06Redcar, Cleveland or Blackpool, there is a different perspective and

1:41:06 > 1:41:11that is the level of aspiration isn't there.Where ever you live as

1:41:11 > 1:41:15a kid, you have access to social media and that is making the world

1:41:15 > 1:41:22smaller?It is, but do you still believe you can do when you live in

1:41:22 > 1:41:28an area where there isn't a lot of opportunities. But you see the City

1:41:28 > 1:41:31of London and the number of opportunities there, people with

1:41:31 > 1:41:37those jobs, it is a mechanism to make you feel you can do it. If you

1:41:37 > 1:41:41live in a northern town that is rundown, it is harder to have the

1:41:41 > 1:41:45level of belief that those opportunities are there for you.You

1:41:45 > 1:41:51don't have to go far, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle and Manchester to

1:41:51 > 1:41:58see success?It is right, but can you compare Leeds, Liverpool,

1:41:58 > 1:42:02Manchester and Sheffield to London. It pulls in the most talent around

1:42:02 > 1:42:08the country for most jobs. It is insignificant in relative terms to

1:42:08 > 1:42:16London.David Laws, what do you say? There is something in both of the

1:42:16 > 1:42:21points Adrian makes. But London, not so long ago, was a really low

1:42:21 > 1:42:25performing part of the country when there was still a lot of job

1:42:25 > 1:42:30opportunities. Adrian's School is a good example of the fact that even

1:42:30 > 1:42:35in parts of the country where funding is low and there aren't as

1:42:35 > 1:42:40many good opportunities, you have schools doing fantastic job. I

1:42:40 > 1:42:45understand Adrian's actually is. We don't have been of schools with the

1:42:45 > 1:42:49strength of leadership, governance and teaching that there appears to

1:42:49 > 1:42:54be in Adrian's school. Part of the challenge isn't just the money and

1:42:54 > 1:42:58the aspiration, it is how do we help to ensure the quality of leadership,

1:42:58 > 1:43:02governance and teaching, not just in London and the south-east where the

1:43:02 > 1:43:05problem has been largely cracked, but throughout the rest of the

1:43:05 > 1:43:10country as well?Thank you both very much. Happy Christmas. Appreciate

1:43:10 > 1:43:20it.

1:43:21 > 1:43:29Coming up, random Acts of kindness. I love this story. Let me read more

1:43:29 > 1:43:37messages. Katie says, I love the story about Kaci Sullivan. The man

1:43:37 > 1:43:44who gave birth five years ago when he was living as a woman. I am 38

1:43:44 > 1:43:50weeks pregnant with a surprise, I don't intend to keep the gender

1:43:50 > 1:43:54heading, but I don't believe in boys in blue and girls in pink. My

1:43:54 > 1:43:59midwife looked in horror and said, how will people know what it was? I

1:43:59 > 1:44:04say, they could ask me. But otherwise it is none of their

1:44:04 > 1:44:10business. Neil says, an absolute amazing interview with Kaci

1:44:10 > 1:44:14Sullivan, opening minds, it is nice to have some good news on all of it

1:44:14 > 1:44:18seems to be bad. Let me bring you this news from the police in

1:44:18 > 1:44:22Melbourne. It is to do with the incident earlier when a car drove

1:44:22 > 1:44:29into a crowd of pedestrians in the city. The driver of the car was a

1:44:29 > 1:44:3232-year-old Australian citizen of Afghan origin who has a history of

1:44:32 > 1:44:36mental health issues and drug use, according to the police in

1:44:36 > 1:44:44Melbourne. The police are now saying the driver of the car was a

1:44:44 > 1:44:4632-year-old Australian citizen, originally from Afghanistan who has

1:44:46 > 1:44:51a history of mental health issues and drug use. The police say it was

1:44:51 > 1:44:55a deliberate act. That is what they described it as earlier and we know

1:44:55 > 1:44:5814 people have been injured and some of those are in a critical

1:44:58 > 1:45:04condition. Back here...

1:45:04 > 1:45:05Toys-R-Us is in deep financial trouble -

1:45:05 > 1:45:073,200 members of staff are wondering if they'll still

1:45:07 > 1:45:17have a job over Xmas.

1:45:17 > 1:45:25We can get more on this from Simon gone perverts.

1:45:25 > 1:45:29This store in south London, it is business as usual. Some families

1:45:29 > 1:45:33have been coming in to do their Christmas shopping and take

1:45:33 > 1:45:38advantage of discounts, but for thousands of Toys-R-Us staff who

1:45:38 > 1:45:41have been hearing the news, they have been wondering whether they

1:45:41 > 1:45:47still have a job. Funnily enough this particular store is on a list

1:45:47 > 1:45:52of 26 that a likely to be closed any way, even if the company manages to

1:45:52 > 1:45:58do a deal with its creditors at the meeting that is starting in about 10

1:45:58 > 1:46:04minutes time this morning. The problem is that the interests of the

1:46:04 > 1:46:13staff are pitted against 600 members of the pension scheme and a group

1:46:13 > 1:46:18called the Pension Protection Fund has said it will vote against a deal

1:46:18 > 1:46:23to secure the future of the company. The talks are going on and there is

1:46:23 > 1:46:27hope that a deal could be done. They will be voting soon after 11

1:46:27 > 1:46:31o'clock. We might not hear the result for a couple of hours after

1:46:31 > 1:46:37that. Obviously the staff here on opportunitier hooks to see --

1:46:37 > 1:46:42tenterhooks to see what their future is.The Pension Protection Fund,

1:46:42 > 1:46:47whose job is to protect people's pensions are saying Toys-R-Us are

1:46:47 > 1:46:56not going to put enough into the retirement fund to satisfy them?

1:46:56 > 1:47:02Basically they're saying they want Toys-R-Us to pay in advance three

1:47:02 > 1:47:05years' worth of pension contributions into the fund to make

1:47:05 > 1:47:11sure it closes some of the gap. Their liabilities are £100 million

1:47:11 > 1:47:19and they only have 70 million in the fund. It is a signal of the lack of

1:47:19 > 1:47:23confidence the Pension Protection Fund has that they will make the

1:47:23 > 1:47:28contributions. They don't want to see the firm go out of business so,

1:47:28 > 1:47:35it may be the gap between the two positions, Toys-R-Us says it doesn't

1:47:35 > 1:47:40have the £9 million to pay. That is still the hope and we will find out

1:47:40 > 1:47:53soon.We are going to talk to Gary Grant from The Entertainer toys

1:47:53 > 1:47:59store. You believe this could be bad for the industry.Yes just nine

1:47:59 > 1:48:07years ago we lost Woolworths.Was it nine years ago? . Yes.Yes so to

1:48:07 > 1:48:12lose a specialist toys retailer will be bad for the industry and on a

1:48:12 > 1:48:18global industry it is not good for the uncertainty.That is because

1:48:18 > 1:48:24people are buying toys online.Well Toys-R-Us trades on line. It is not

1:48:24 > 1:48:30online or bricks and mortar it is a combination of both. 20% of our

1:48:30 > 1:48:36seams are Jon Leyne, but people -- online, but people use the internet

1:48:36 > 1:48:40to find information about our products. What is the key to making

1:48:40 > 1:48:46a trip then to a toy store in Britain in 2017/18 worthwhile? It is

1:48:46 > 1:48:53about fun and for the entertainer it is about delivering a dream and a

1:48:53 > 1:48:58memory to this generation of children. You speak to grown ups and

1:48:58 > 1:49:05say can you remember a stop from your childhood, they can and I hope

1:49:05 > 1:49:11in 20 years ago a six-year-old then 26 if asked would remember a

1:49:11 > 1:49:14particular shop and won't remember the brown envelope through letter

1:49:14 > 1:49:21box. It is about experiences and fun and picking up the products,

1:49:21 > 1:49:28received a stries from the assistant -- advice from the assistant and if

1:49:28 > 1:49:33it requires batteries you have been told. The internet doesn't deliver

1:49:33 > 1:49:39those personal bits of information and knowledge that a shop assistant

1:49:39 > 1:49:44has.It might be a trip being made worthwhile for the child, but for

1:49:44 > 1:49:49the parent you need good customer service and loads of staff and to be

1:49:49 > 1:49:54there behind the tills and not chats and actualry serving. -- actually

1:49:54 > 1:50:04serving.Yes at The Entertainer we are heavily sfafed and I was at a

1:50:04 > 1:50:12store yesterday and one mum said, children how long do you want. They

1:50:12 > 1:50:18meant 16 minutes.You must feel for the staff, just over 3,000 members

1:50:18 > 1:50:21of staff waiting to find Ute what happens, not knowing if they're

1:50:21 > 1:50:25going to have a job.Yes, we talk about companies going out of

1:50:25 > 1:50:30business as though it is just a thing. But actually behind the name

1:50:30 > 1:50:37and the company name there are people's jobs on the line. I feel

1:50:37 > 1:50:40for the 3,500 people that won't even be personally told, they will be

1:50:40 > 1:50:47told through the media. I hope the C BA is successful and Toys-R-Us have

1:50:47 > 1:50:54an opportunity to reshape their business.Why aren't you opening on

1:50:54 > 1:50:59Christmas Eve?Well it is not because it is Christmas Eve, it is

1:50:59 > 1:51:04because it is a Sunday. The Entertainer doesn't trade on a

1:51:04 > 1:51:08Sunday and for our 2,000 staff, they will have a guaranteed two days off,

1:51:08 > 1:51:13because we work very hard and some shops are open between 60 and 84

1:51:13 > 1:51:17hours this week. One shop is trading until 11 o'clock. The staff are

1:51:17 > 1:51:21putting in a lot of hours to deliver the business. So it is a gift to us

1:51:21 > 1:51:27to be able to give them a two-day break. We are back on Boxing Day. So

1:51:27 > 1:51:34the break is short. But because Christmas Eve is on a Sunday doesn't

1:51:34 > 1:51:43mean we will be open.Thank you.

1:51:43 > 1:51:45Next, we're going to talk about random acts of kindness,

1:51:45 > 1:51:48because they happen all the time around us, but particularly

1:51:48 > 1:51:49at this time of year.

1:51:49 > 1:51:52Ian Lloyd filmed a member of the public hand over a TV

1:51:52 > 1:51:56to a man selling the Big Issue.

1:51:56 > 1:52:00Jackie Cooper's husband died at Christmas last year.

1:52:00 > 1:52:03She has been receiving counselling through a hospice all year,

1:52:03 > 1:52:05and is now volunteering and helping the hospice this Christmas

1:52:05 > 1:52:08to give something back.

1:52:08 > 1:52:13Yan Simonczyk is a taxi driver and has created a Go Fund Me page

1:52:13 > 1:52:16for his 83-year-old customer Gwen to take her out shopping.

1:52:16 > 1:52:21Altogether £1,107 has been raised on a £700 goal.

1:52:21 > 1:52:30How much has been raised.£1,100 so far. Roughly. We have got a couple

1:52:30 > 1:52:38of tins, we have one in the office and one in the pub. So yes I still

1:52:38 > 1:52:46haven't counted. Roughly around £1,100.What was your goal?200 to

1:52:46 > 1:52:53start with and it just went crazy. Everyone's really generous. I'm a

1:52:53 > 1:52:59bit overwhelmed with the amount so far. It is going to make a massive

1:52:59 > 1:53:03difference to her life, which was my intention. Just to make her life

1:53:03 > 1:53:07more comfortable. She is not the youngest and she does a lot for her

1:53:07 > 1:53:14family and yes she is just a lovely woman and become like a bit of a

1:53:14 > 1:53:19adopted Nan. We have built up a friendship.I'm going to show, sorry

1:53:19 > 1:53:26to interrupt, we have a video of you and Gwen.Hello to everybody. I

1:53:26 > 1:53:35missed you.Stuck in the snow.I'm going to get flowers.Come on, let's

1:53:35 > 1:53:43get you in the car. I haven't seen you for a while. I thought Jack

1:53:43 > 1:53:50Frost had gone you. What is that?A Christmas card.A Christmas card.

1:53:50 > 1:53:55When are you taking her shopping.I haven't surprised her yet. We are

1:53:55 > 1:53:59going to record a video, like the big reveal. As soon as I've

1:53:59 > 1:54:04organised that and recorded a few things and surprised her which will

1:54:04 > 1:54:09be all be record and I will take her shopping to get some essentials to

1:54:09 > 1:54:14make her life more comfortable and relaxed. It is not about buying

1:54:14 > 1:54:20luxuries.Right, I'm going to if I can speak to Jackie and Ian. Ian,

1:54:20 > 1:54:25let's look at the video that you filmed showing this act of

1:54:25 > 1:54:30generosity.

1:54:34 > 1:54:43Well, well, well.

1:54:49 > 1:54:55Ian what we saw was your giving, the filming of the bloke giving the guy

1:54:55 > 1:54:59selling The Big issue the stand, because he had already given him a

1:54:59 > 1:55:10television.At the start I thought it was a bit weird. I thought he was

1:55:10 > 1:55:15asking me to mind the TV for him. When I seen him coming back with the

1:55:15 > 1:55:19television stand, I knew something was going on and I knew I had to

1:55:19 > 1:55:23film it and the rest you seen in the video.What did you think of what

1:55:23 > 1:55:29you saw?It was amazing. It brightened my day up. It was a

1:55:29 > 1:55:33Monday morning ago you get Monday morning blues and that lifted my

1:55:33 > 1:55:39spirits. You can imagine how the big issue seller felt.Jackie, we only

1:55:39 > 1:55:44have a couple of minutes, tell us about volunteering in the hospice

1:55:44 > 1:55:50this Christmas.It came about because I asked if they needed staff

1:55:50 > 1:55:55over Christmas, with the in patients, because I had such

1:55:55 > 1:56:02valuable counselling from the hospice, although my husband didn't

1:56:02 > 1:56:06die there, but they snapped my hand off, because the other staff are off

1:56:06 > 1:56:12at Christmas. So I will be helping simple things like answering the

1:56:12 > 1:56:17door, answering the phone, welcoming visitors for the in-patients and

1:56:17 > 1:56:23perhaps sitting with the in-patients if they need somebody to talk to.

1:56:23 > 1:56:27Generally just helping out making tea, washing up. Anything that wants

1:56:27 > 1:56:32doing and I shall be so pleased to be there.Tell us why you were be

1:56:32 > 1:56:40pleased to be there?Well, I've always worked and I want to be

1:56:40 > 1:56:46useful rather than sitting at home looking through a window on my own.

1:56:46 > 1:56:53So it's helping me as much as it is helping the hospice. By being there

1:56:53 > 1:56:57with the patients.It is very generous of you, Jackie and I know

1:56:57 > 1:57:02it has been a difficult year. So it is a wonderful decision from you and

1:57:02 > 1:57:08why we wanted to highlight it today. With yourself and with Yann and Ian

1:57:08 > 1:57:13and we have had so many messages from people about the kind of acts

1:57:13 > 1:57:17of kindness that they have been on the end of this year. Linda said, I

1:57:17 > 1:57:22would like to thank the gentleman who returned my purse yesterday.

1:57:22 > 1:57:28After I left it on the roof of my car. After putting air in my tyres.

1:57:28 > 1:57:33It had fallen off after I trove away. He -- drove away. He knocked

1:57:33 > 1:57:38on my door after finding my address on my driving licence and wished

1:57:38 > 1:57:46many' happy Christmas. You have restored my faith in humanity.

1:57:46 > 1:57:50Jackie and Yann and Ian thank you for coming on and thank you for what

1:57:50 > 1:57:59you're doing. In terms of your breaking news. Martin said I left my

1:57:59 > 1:58:02job of 17 years that I hated and it almost split my marriage, but I

1:58:02 > 1:58:07start a new career in the new year and from this who said, speaking out

1:58:07 > 1:58:17about my abuse as a child on your show has changed my life. Thank you

1:58:17 > 1:58:24to you and your team. BBC news room live is next we are back tomorrow at

1:58:24 > 1:58:299. I will see you in January. Thanks for watching have a wonderful

1:58:29 > 1:58:30Christmas.

1:58:32 > 1:58:35There's a laugh or two on Two this Christmas.