12/01/2018

0:00:09 > 0:00:14Hello it's 9 o'clock.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17Welcome to the programme.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19There's a major fire at Nottingham station.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21Trains are suspended and passengers moved to safety as fire crews

0:00:21 > 0:00:23try to bring it under control.

0:00:23 > 0:00:24We'll have the latest.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26Donald Trump cancels a visit to the UK to open

0:00:26 > 0:00:28a new US embassy in London.

0:00:28 > 0:00:31In a tweet he calls the project a bad deal and says they "wanted me

0:00:31 > 0:00:33to cut the ribbon - NO!".

0:00:33 > 0:00:35But did the fear of demonstrations put him off?

0:00:35 > 0:00:40I think it's well know that there may have been

0:00:40 > 0:00:44demonstrations,

0:00:44 > 0:00:48There has not been a huge amount of love towards them from the British

0:00:48 > 0:00:52people and perhaps the president did not want to walk into that?

0:00:52 > 0:00:55There's still no date for a state visit, but Theresa May has

0:00:55 > 0:00:56confirmed it's on the cards.

0:00:56 > 0:00:57We'll have the details.

0:00:57 > 0:01:00Also today - as more children than ever are referred to social

0:01:00 > 0:01:02services there are fears that serious cases could be

0:01:02 > 0:01:05missed as staff struggle with their workload.

0:01:12 > 0:01:13Hello.

0:01:13 > 0:01:16Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:01:16 > 0:01:20We'll also be speaking to Clare Pooley -

0:01:20 > 0:01:22a mother of three - who's casual drinking turned

0:01:22 > 0:01:26into a serious habit.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28She's here to talk about giving up alcohol and the support she's

0:01:28 > 0:01:30had from other women in the same situation.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33So we'd love to hear from you if this is something

0:01:33 > 0:01:34you've got experience of.

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0:01:42 > 0:01:45A huge fire is blazing at Nottingham railway station.

0:01:45 > 0:01:48Nottinghamshire Fire and rescue say they're dealing with a 'large

0:01:48 > 0:01:51incident' with five fire engines at the scene.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54The station has been evacuated.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57East Midland Trains say all trains through the station are cancelled

0:01:57 > 0:02:01and they expect disruptions.

0:02:01 > 0:02:09On the line it's our reporter Healy Compton, bring us up to date with

0:02:09 > 0:02:14the latest you have about this fire? Every street around Nottingham train

0:02:14 > 0:02:19station is closed at the moment, find me there are 11 fire trucks

0:02:19 > 0:02:23that you can see and bearing in mind this is just one side of the train

0:02:23 > 0:02:28station which has been closed off. There are ambulance crews at the

0:02:28 > 0:02:34site currently but I am told they are here as a precaution. It is

0:02:34 > 0:02:40after unconfirmed reports of a fire in a toilet on one of the platforms.

0:02:40 > 0:02:45As you can see fire crews are in attendance. I have been told that

0:02:45 > 0:02:48it's not a major incident and they have managed to get the blaze under

0:02:48 > 0:02:54control. There were reports of plumes of smoke, plumes of black

0:02:54 > 0:02:57smoke at 6:30am but I have been speaking to some people in the

0:02:57 > 0:03:01buildings around the train station who have told me this morning the

0:03:01 > 0:03:04first they knew about the fire was when they opened the front door this

0:03:04 > 0:03:12morning and were greeted by a sea of blue lights.Thank you for bringing

0:03:12 > 0:03:16us up-to-date with that. Our reporter down at Nottingham train

0:03:16 > 0:03:19station, it goes without saying we will keep you across that story with

0:03:19 > 0:03:22updates throughout the programme.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25Donald Trump has cancelled his planned visit to the UK next month.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27The US President tweeted that he had cancelled the planned visit

0:03:27 > 0:03:30as he didn't want to open the new American embassy in London -

0:03:30 > 0:03:33which he incorrectly stated had been commissioned by his predecessor,

0:03:33 > 0:03:34Barack Obama.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39Dan Johnson reports.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41After nearly 60 years flying above London's Grosvenor Square,

0:03:41 > 0:03:43the Stars and Stripes were lowered, ready for the opening

0:03:43 > 0:03:51of the new US embassy.

0:03:51 > 0:03:53It's billion-dollar building on the Southbank and Donald Trump

0:03:53 > 0:03:54was due to open it next month.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58Now we know he won't and early this morning, he posted his reasons

0:03:58 > 0:04:06on Twitter:

0:04:21 > 0:04:24But did the prospect of protests like this

0:04:24 > 0:04:28also put him off?

0:04:28 > 0:04:30This was the response to his ban on travellers

0:04:30 > 0:04:31from certain Muslim countries.

0:04:31 > 0:04:36A petition drew 1.8 million signatures with calls to ban him.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39It shouldn't be a state visit because it would be embarrassing

0:04:39 > 0:04:43to the Queen and the rest of the UK.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45Theresa May was the first world leader to reach out

0:04:45 > 0:04:48to the new President and a return trip, a state visit,

0:04:48 > 0:04:52was promised soon.

0:04:52 > 0:04:54But then the President strained the special relationship by sharing

0:04:54 > 0:05:00online far-right videos from the group called Britain First.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02When Theresa May condemned, he then retorted.

0:05:02 > 0:05:07Just last weekend, she confirmed the invite still stands.

0:05:07 > 0:05:11He is taking decisions in the best interests of the United States.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13And he is coming to this country?

0:05:13 > 0:05:14He will be coming to the country.

0:05:14 > 0:05:18The Foreign Secretary denied the Queen would be embarrassed.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21I think Her Majesty the Queen is capable of taking this

0:05:21 > 0:05:23American President or any American president in her stride,

0:05:23 > 0:05:29as she has done over six remarkable decades.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Let's be clear.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34Opening this place was never the same as a state visit.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37It would have been a shorter, less formal trip.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39Meeting the Queen is still on, expected this year,

0:05:39 > 0:05:43but no date has been set.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45The President is denying this decision is down to politics

0:05:45 > 0:05:48but after he offended more countries with a foul-mouthed remark

0:05:48 > 0:05:50last night, the list of places he is welcome

0:05:50 > 0:05:55certainly isn't growing.

0:05:55 > 0:05:58Jon Donnison joins me now from outside the new US

0:05:58 > 0:06:04embassy in Central London.

0:06:04 > 0:06:12What are we to make of this trip been cancelled?Some of the workers

0:06:12 > 0:06:18arriving here this morning in this "Off location" are pretty bemused by

0:06:18 > 0:06:22all the attention, asking what it's all about, and some fruity language

0:06:22 > 0:06:25from some of them when I told them Donald Trump had cancelled the

0:06:25 > 0:06:30visit. This is the building in question, this is what $1 billion

0:06:30 > 0:06:37gets you. When you look at the tweet from Donald Trump he was blaming

0:06:37 > 0:06:40President Obama for agreeing to move the old embassy from its location in

0:06:40 > 0:06:46gross square to here in Vauxhall. It's interesting because that

0:06:46 > 0:06:52decision was actually made back in 2008, not by President Obama but by

0:06:52 > 0:06:59his predecessor President George W Bush. As was pointed out in the

0:06:59 > 0:07:04report, this was not a state visit planned, it was something a bit on a

0:07:04 > 0:07:10smaller scale but it does make I would imagine the possibility of a

0:07:10 > 0:07:14state visit later in the year probably even more likely to be

0:07:14 > 0:07:19shelved I would have thought.Thank you.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22Now to the BBC Newsroom for a summary of the rest

0:07:22 > 0:07:25of the days news.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29A study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

0:07:29 > 0:07:32mastectomy does not increase the chances of survival in younger

0:07:32 > 0:07:36patients who have what's known as the BRAC1 gene.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39The researchers also found that women treated for breast cancer had

0:07:39 > 0:07:42the same survival rates - regardless of whether or not

0:07:42 > 0:07:47they had the mutation.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50The BBC is said "deeply unimpressed" with an off-air chat in which two

0:07:50 > 0:07:53of its presenters joked about the pay gap between the sexes.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57That's according to a source at the corporation.

0:07:57 > 0:07:59BBC Radio 4 Today presenter John Humphrys and North America

0:07:59 > 0:08:02editor Jon Sopel were discussing Carrie Gracie, who had just quit her

0:08:02 > 0:08:06China Editor job over equal pay.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09In an exchange before Monday's show, it's reported they

0:08:09 > 0:08:12they joked about "handing over" pay to keep her in post.

0:08:12 > 0:08:13A BBC spokeswoman said the presenter regrets

0:08:13 > 0:08:19the "ill-advised" conversation.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21There's been a breakthrough in talks in Germany on forming

0:08:21 > 0:08:23a new coalition government.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25After working through the night, Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian

0:08:25 > 0:08:30Democrats and their former coalition partners, the Social Democrats,

0:08:30 > 0:08:32have now agreed a basis upon which a coalition treaty

0:08:32 > 0:08:33can be negotiated.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Mrs Merkel has been unable to form a government since inconclusive

0:08:36 > 0:08:39elections in September.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42Nigel Farage has clarified remarks he made yesterday calling

0:08:42 > 0:08:46for a second EU referendum.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49The former Ukip leader has said although another vote

0:08:49 > 0:08:52was the "last thing" he wanted, he thought it might be forced

0:08:52 > 0:08:54on the country by parliament.

0:08:54 > 0:08:57His initial remarks were seized upon by Remainers,

0:08:57 > 0:09:00with Labour's Chuka Umunna saying Mr Farage had made "a valid point

0:09:00 > 0:09:03for the first time in his life".

0:09:03 > 0:09:07The conduct of the media is expected to be examined by the independent

0:09:07 > 0:09:09review into the response to the Manchester Arena bombing.

0:09:09 > 0:09:1222 people were killed when a bomb was set off after a pop concert

0:09:12 > 0:09:14at the venue in May.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16Several of the bereaved families have raised concerns

0:09:16 > 0:09:22about the reporting of the attack.

0:09:22 > 0:09:30The review will also look at the role played by social media.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33role played by social media. An 18-year-old from the Scottish

0:09:33 > 0:09:40Highlands has died after contracting the flu virus. Bethany Walker was

0:09:40 > 0:09:45airlifted to hospital in Inverness from her home but the illness had

0:09:45 > 0:09:52become pneumonia and doctors were unable to save her.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55unable to save her. Police have released the names of 17 people

0:09:55 > 0:09:59including four children confirmed to have died in a mudslide which struck

0:09:59 > 0:10:06a small town in southern California. All of the dead were residents of

0:10:06 > 0:10:11Montecito, the ridge from age three to age 30 nine. One official

0:10:11 > 0:10:17estimate puts the missing figure as high as 43.

0:10:19 > 0:10:24The Queen has been talking

0:10:24 > 0:10:25about some of the challenges

0:10:25 > 0:10:27she faced at her coronation 65 years ago.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30As part of a BBC programme, she spoke candidly about

0:10:30 > 0:10:34the heaviness of the crown she wore, and noted it was lucky she and her

0:10:34 > 0:10:36father, King George VI, had the 'same sort of shaped head'.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39'The Coronation' will air on BBC One at 8pm this Sunday.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42Facebook has announced what it says is a major change to it's news feed.

0:10:42 > 0:10:44The social website will refocus on interactions

0:10:44 > 0:10:45between family and friends

0:10:45 > 0:10:46rather than media and business content.

0:10:46 > 0:10:49It means that people will see fewer posts from companies

0:10:49 > 0:10:50and public organisations.

0:10:50 > 0:10:52A butcher who got trapped in his own freezer has described

0:10:52 > 0:10:57how he freed himself using a frozen black pudding.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00Chris McCabe thought he was for the chop

0:11:00 > 0:11:02after the freezer door in his shop in Totnes, Devon,

0:11:02 > 0:11:03blew shut behind him.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06Stranded in temperatures of minus 20 degrees,

0:11:06 > 0:11:09he said he used the sausage as a battering ram

0:11:09 > 0:11:14on the door's release mechanism.

0:11:14 > 0:11:23Do excuse that joke, strong stuff that black pudding.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26I think that is the best use of black pudding but I might get in

0:11:26 > 0:11:29trouble for saying that!

0:11:29 > 0:11:32Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

0:11:32 > 0:11:38We will be talking to a mum who gave up drinking after she discovered she

0:11:38 > 0:11:40was drinking ten bottles of wine in a week.

0:11:40 > 0:11:41Use the hashtag #VictoriaLive

0:11:41 > 0:11:45and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47Let's get some sport with Hugh Woozencroft.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Hugh, Billie Jean King has once again called for a change

0:11:50 > 0:11:52ahead of the Australian Open?

0:11:52 > 0:11:54Good morning.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57Well, the Australian Open starts in Melbourne over the weekend

0:11:57 > 0:11:59but already the tournament is making controversial headlines,

0:11:59 > 0:12:01and not for the first time.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03Last year, you may remember, Margaret Court -

0:12:03 > 0:12:06the 11-time Aussie Open winner, a devout Christian -

0:12:06 > 0:12:07voiced her opposition to gay marriage,

0:12:07 > 0:12:12as well as derogatory comments regarding transgender people.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15The great Billie Jean King is now calling for the stadium

0:12:15 > 0:12:18in Melbourne named after Court to be renamed.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20Earlier, our tennis correspondent Russell Fuller

0:12:20 > 0:12:25told me what King had to say.

0:12:25 > 0:12:30Billie Jean king was reigniting the debate which started in May when

0:12:30 > 0:12:33Margaret Court the winner of 20 for a grand slam titles during her

0:12:33 > 0:12:39career had some very outspoken views on gay marriage and added that

0:12:39 > 0:12:45tennis was full of lesbians and transgender children will work of

0:12:45 > 0:12:49the devil. The Margaret Court Arena here in Melbourne Park takes her

0:12:49 > 0:12:52name and tennis Australia at the time said they would not change the

0:12:52 > 0:12:57name even though they distance themselves from views. Today Dolly

0:12:57 > 0:13:01Jean King speaking in Melbourne said it should have its name changed and

0:13:01 > 0:13:05that if she was playing today she would not play any matches on that

0:13:05 > 0:13:10court. She went on to say that I think if you were talking about

0:13:10 > 0:13:13indigenous people or Jewish people or any other people I cannot imagine

0:13:13 > 0:13:17the public would want somebody to have their name on something. We are

0:13:17 > 0:13:21all God 's children she said. I just feel like she has got really

0:13:21 > 0:13:27derogatory.A lot of talk about inclusivity, was there a response

0:13:27 > 0:13:33from the tournament organisers?To be fair to the Australian open there

0:13:33 > 0:13:36was a press conference called to mark the fact Billie Jean King who

0:13:36 > 0:13:40is here to celebrate 50 years since first winning the title and is the

0:13:40 > 0:13:47Australian open's woman of the year was able to express her views. The

0:13:47 > 0:13:50tournament director was alongside and he said what they said six or

0:13:50 > 0:13:54seven months ago that once again they would not condone what Margaret

0:13:54 > 0:13:58Court said, we do not agree with what she has said, but that the

0:13:58 > 0:14:04court is named after her because of her achievements on it. He also said

0:14:04 > 0:14:08it was congregated, it is not just tennis Australia who makes this

0:14:08 > 0:14:11decision, the government own Melbourne Park so there are many

0:14:11 > 0:14:14stakeholders and he said there was no active proxies to change the name

0:14:14 > 0:14:20but there is something subject to discussion.Staying down under it's

0:14:20 > 0:14:27been a good warm up for Heather Watson.

0:14:27 > 0:14:29She missed out on a first WTA final in two years,

0:14:29 > 0:14:35beaten in 3 sets by Belgian second seed Elise Mertens.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37And missing out isn't always a negative.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39At least that's what British Bobsleigh are hoping for

0:14:39 > 0:14:41after a minor stroke ruled Bruce Tasker out

0:14:41 > 0:14:44of the upcoming Winter Olympics.

0:14:44 > 0:14:45His teammate John Jackson says that 'heartache'

0:14:45 > 0:14:49can help inspire the squad.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51Tasker is expected to make a full recovery

0:14:51 > 0:14:54and resume his career next season.

0:14:54 > 0:14:58Jackson says although he'll be missed, Team GB has the

0:14:58 > 0:15:06'strength and depth' to step up to the challenge.

0:15:07 > 0:15:11Looking forward to those games in South Korea as well. We will be back

0:15:11 > 0:15:13with more sport later in the hour.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15When toddler Peter Connolly, better known as Baby P,

0:15:15 > 0:15:17died in horrific circumstances just over ten years ago,

0:15:17 > 0:15:19the Government said it was essential to learn lessons

0:15:19 > 0:15:21and restore the public's confidence in social services.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24His death was the highest profile, but by no means the only, case

0:15:24 > 0:15:27where professionals failed to protect a child.

0:15:27 > 0:15:31Various agencies were urged to talk to each other more

0:15:31 > 0:15:33and be more vigilant for the signs of abuse.

0:15:33 > 0:15:41But have things swung too far?

0:15:43 > 0:15:45New figures from the Local Government Association sure there

0:15:45 > 0:15:49were over 600,000 referrals in England and Wales last year. That is

0:15:49 > 0:15:53one child every 49 seconds. The LGA says councils are struggling to cope

0:15:53 > 0:15:57and facing a £2 billion funding gap.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00Let's speak now to Adele Joicey, mother-of-four, who took her

0:16:00 > 0:16:02two-year-old twin son Ryan to the GP with a high

0:16:02 > 0:16:03temperature but within hours,

0:16:03 > 0:16:05social services were investigating her for possible child abuse.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Melanie Adegbite, who works as a social worker and says

0:16:08 > 0:16:10despite the case pressure, every case still needs

0:16:10 > 0:16:13to be investigated.

0:16:13 > 0:16:17Also Jon Brown from the NSPCC, who says there are still many cases

0:16:17 > 0:16:18that are going unreported

0:16:18 > 0:16:22and these figures are still not painting the full picture.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25And Dr Lauren Devine from the University of the West

0:16:25 > 0:16:33of England, who thinks too many cases are being referred.

0:16:34 > 0:16:41Thank you all for joining us today. Doctor Divine comedy have looked at

0:16:41 > 0:16:45these statistics and pulled a report together, tell us your findings.

0:16:45 > 0:16:51Very briefly, I am interested in the very current interest in the high

0:16:51 > 0:16:53number of referrals, because the data shows that has been an

0:16:53 > 0:16:57increasingly high number on a trajectory for a number of years.

0:16:57 > 0:17:02What is also very interesting is that the data shows that the higher

0:17:02 > 0:17:05the referrals, the less addition to the system becomes in detecting

0:17:05 > 0:17:11serious child abuse. In fact, it is no surprise to me, and everybody who

0:17:11 > 0:17:15works within the system, either as an academic or social worker, that

0:17:15 > 0:17:18users will be missed. That is less to do with the bother of any

0:17:18 > 0:17:21individual local authority, although in some cases clearly they have been

0:17:21 > 0:17:24missed when they should have been spotted, but it is more to do with

0:17:24 > 0:17:28an overwhelming number of referrals, that does not necessarily reflect

0:17:28 > 0:17:32the number of children being abused. In other words, from Arnold referred

0:17:32 > 0:17:38who are abused and vice versa, there are children in the system who have

0:17:38 > 0:17:42not been abused and it is clogging it up.Melanie, I can see you were

0:17:42 > 0:17:52nodding.What I would say is that in my experience, families that we are

0:17:52 > 0:17:59working with nowadays, the families who, into the social work services,

0:17:59 > 0:18:04the issues are really much more complex than was previously. I think

0:18:04 > 0:18:08there are lots of reasons for that. One of the reasons would be that the

0:18:08 > 0:18:12thresholds are higher in local authorities because of austerity,

0:18:12 > 0:18:16because of the lack of funding, the lack of resources.So the situation

0:18:16 > 0:18:20has to be worse for a child, currently, to be seen by social

0:18:20 > 0:18:27services than in years gone by because of cuts?Thresholds have

0:18:27 > 0:18:30become higher, so what's the point of intervention, it is, you know, it

0:18:30 > 0:18:36is very different in terms of ten years ago, 15 years ago. Families

0:18:36 > 0:18:42would be, probably, in dire need at that

0:18:42 > 0:18:47that point or in child in need, child protection cases. It is to do

0:18:47 > 0:18:53with the lack of resources.Adele, I want to bring UN, because you're a

0:18:53 > 0:19:01mother of four, and as I said, due take your two-year-old Ryan to the

0:19:01 > 0:19:04GP, he was unwell, and this is related to a stage where they said

0:19:04 > 0:19:08they were going to take him away from you?That is correct. I went to

0:19:08 > 0:19:12the GP and he referred me, there was a mark there that I was not sure

0:19:12 > 0:19:17where it had come from, so he explained he would refer it to

0:19:17 > 0:19:24social services and the key about, and that night they came out, and

0:19:24 > 0:19:28because my partner works away, I nobody to stay with me overnight so

0:19:28 > 0:19:33they were not prepared to leave me with Ryan overnight so were making

0:19:33 > 0:19:38steps to remove him. I had to go and pack a bag.But he was not taken

0:19:38 > 0:19:42away?No, we were at the GP for a couple of hours waiting for social

0:19:42 > 0:19:46services to come out. By that time, his temperature was continuing to go

0:19:46 > 0:19:53up. He was poorly. When social services came to my home and were

0:19:53 > 0:19:57talking about it after we had left the GP, Ryan has become very poorly,

0:19:57 > 0:20:03so he went floppy and I took him to BMD. What the social worker said was

0:20:03 > 0:20:08it could all be straight about at the hospital, because a safeguarding

0:20:08 > 0:20:11doctor was there. -- to come to Accident and Emergency. They could

0:20:11 > 0:20:17examine Ryan Giggs review on the mark.So they were then happy that

0:20:17 > 0:20:21the mark was innocent and Orion stayed with you?It turned out there

0:20:21 > 0:20:27had been an error in the way it had been recorded. When the GP

0:20:27 > 0:20:30telephoned social services, he explained that he had seen an

0:20:30 > 0:20:37unexplained mark on a mobile child. Ryan was quite mobile. However,

0:20:37 > 0:20:44social services dealt with it as a nonaccidental injury on and a mobile

0:20:44 > 0:20:49child, which triggered a totally different response, which is why

0:20:49 > 0:20:55that path started. -- on a not mobile child.John, I want to bring

0:20:55 > 0:21:01UN. Clearly, in Adil's situation, mistakes were made. Is that

0:21:01 > 0:21:05inevitable with the sheer amount of cases being referred?Inevitably

0:21:05 > 0:21:10mistakes can be made on occasions and it can be extremely stressful.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14Of course being in the midst of a situation where you are being

0:21:14 > 0:21:19referred to children's services because of concerned. What is

0:21:19 > 0:21:22critical is that where those rebels are made, because of the volume of

0:21:22 > 0:21:26referrals coming through, and that is not necessarily a bad thing, that

0:21:26 > 0:21:32there is adequate reserves into assets and Trieste was referrals so

0:21:32 > 0:21:35they can be filtered where appropriate to family support. We

0:21:35 > 0:21:39need much more investment in family support to assist families where

0:21:39 > 0:21:43they need help. Where there are not immediate concerns about abuse or

0:21:43 > 0:21:49neglect but where they need help. And then add resources to ensure

0:21:49 > 0:21:52that where job protection action does need to happen, it is taken

0:21:52 > 0:21:56swiftly. We have learned a lot over recent years in relation to that

0:21:56 > 0:22:00accurate assessment. The development of multi-agency safeguarding, but we

0:22:00 > 0:22:03still do not know the overall scale of the problem, and that of a real

0:22:03 > 0:22:08issue. Some research that we did in 2011 showed that for every one child

0:22:08 > 0:22:13on the job protection plan it is estimated there are another age

0:22:13 > 0:22:17children who are being subject to abuse or neglect your not in the

0:22:17 > 0:22:21system. -- and other aid children. We are still looking at a

0:22:21 > 0:22:28significant unknown figure and that is why we are calling on the

0:22:28 > 0:22:31government to undertake a prevalence study to double as a better idea of

0:22:31 > 0:22:34the extent of abuse right across the UK. 'S if there is there amongst

0:22:34 > 0:22:40social workers, we mentioned Baby P in the introduction, is the worry

0:22:40 > 0:22:44with you and your colleagues about worrying some -- missing something

0:22:44 > 0:22:49critical? We want to do the best that we can do, and especially when

0:22:49 > 0:22:53we are working with families, we want to make sure that we are fair,

0:22:53 > 0:22:58that our assessments are reflective of the child's experience, I've

0:22:58 > 0:23:01worked with children and families for almost 20 years, so we want to

0:23:01 > 0:23:05make sure that our assessment is reflective. But the difficulty is

0:23:05 > 0:23:09very similar to what I am hearing my colleagues say, and that is it is

0:23:09 > 0:23:15about funding. It is about being able to provide the right support

0:23:15 > 0:23:20once they have identified that. It is a lack of resources, it is the

0:23:20 > 0:23:26lack of experience that is leaving the front line because of the

0:23:26 > 0:23:31difficulty in actually being able to do your role of the way in which we

0:23:31 > 0:23:36know it needs to be done.Are all cases treated exactly the same when

0:23:36 > 0:23:41they come in?They cannot be. All families are different. All issues,

0:23:41 > 0:23:47circumstances, situations. The assessments, the risks.

0:23:47 > 0:23:52Circumstances, it is all different. It cannot be treated the same.

0:23:52 > 0:23:57Should it be?No, and I think that links back to the point made by the

0:23:57 > 0:24:02NSPCC. It is a case of appropriately triaging. If you are family in the

0:24:02 > 0:24:06UK, under the current statistics, you have a 19 chance of being

0:24:06 > 0:24:11referred. Under the NSPCC's stats on prevalence, that is roughly

0:24:11 > 0:24:14equivalent. If the rates children are in the system, we would have

0:24:14 > 0:24:21pretty much eradicated child abuse. But when you add in that 88% of the

0:24:21 > 0:24:26nine referred are not even meeting the statutory threshold, you can

0:24:26 > 0:24:30understand...Why are they being referred? 88% of people are being

0:24:30 > 0:24:34referred when there is no abuse taking place.Because the

0:24:34 > 0:24:38government's policy at the moment, from the Department for Education,

0:24:38 > 0:24:42has not taken into account this point about triaging. When a cases

0:24:42 > 0:24:48referred, and it may not be an abuse referral, it may be a request for

0:24:48 > 0:24:52support. The problem for a social worker is they have to triage. Since

0:24:52 > 0:24:562013, the government's guidance and Department for Education's policy

0:24:56 > 0:24:59has been to treat all cases under what we called a continuous

0:24:59 > 0:25:02assessment. That is where some of this problem lies. It is a triage

0:25:02 > 0:25:07issue. It needs to happen earlier and spare innocent families the pain

0:25:07 > 0:25:12of assessment and severe trauma that is inevitable. It needs to be much

0:25:12 > 0:25:16more robust response, or there is a realistic suspicion of abuse. It can

0:25:16 > 0:25:25either be eradicated or substantiated.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28What is the stand your relationship with your social workers? Two of

0:25:28 > 0:25:30your children have disabilities and you work carefully with social

0:25:30 > 0:25:32services. The effect of them threatening to take Ryan away from

0:25:32 > 0:25:37you, what effect has it had on that relationship?It leaves me quite

0:25:37 > 0:25:42concerned to seek help. I mean, prior to this happening, the

0:25:42 > 0:25:45relationship of social services has always been one of support and

0:25:45 > 0:25:53trust. I have kind of lost about now. I kind of worry, especially

0:25:53 > 0:25:58with the children who are disabled, like, Ryan Harris cerebral palsy and

0:25:58 > 0:26:04falls more than a typical child. If you fall the advance himself and you

0:26:04 > 0:26:12are like, " is that going to be looked at?" My eldest, my daughter,

0:26:12 > 0:26:15is also nonverbal and you have that kind of worry, like something

0:26:15 > 0:26:18happens to her and she cannot explained happened. Are you going to

0:26:18 > 0:26:25be looked at? It is a shame that that relationship went from one of

0:26:25 > 0:26:28support to do not feel so comfortable night.Thank you all so

0:26:28 > 0:26:32much for coming in to speak to us today. I am very grateful you for

0:26:32 > 0:26:36that.

0:26:36 > 0:26:40Let's head back to Nottingham for the latest on that station fire. Our

0:26:40 > 0:26:47reporter is in Nottingham. Tell us what you know.

0:26:47 > 0:26:51Well, we are standing outside the bus station, sorry, the car park of

0:26:51 > 0:26:55Nottingham train station, and behind that or the platforms at the

0:26:55 > 0:26:59station. As you can see, there is still strong emergency service

0:26:59 > 0:27:05presence. The Fire crews were called at around 6:20am, and that is where

0:27:05 > 0:27:10we saw plumes of smoke coming out of the station. We have had reports

0:27:10 > 0:27:14that the folly of Nottingham train station was filled with smoke and

0:27:14 > 0:27:17one on reported sighting of smoke coming out of a toilet on the

0:27:17 > 0:27:22platform. As you can see, it is fairly quiet now, in the sense that

0:27:22 > 0:27:25the smokers disappeared. The crews have put that out. As you can

0:27:25 > 0:27:32imagine, it has caused travel chaos. Trains in and out of the station

0:27:32 > 0:27:34have been stopped and cancelled and we understand there will be nothing

0:27:34 > 0:27:39going in and out and it has also had an effect on roads around the

0:27:39 > 0:27:48station and on commuters coming in and out of the city.

0:27:48 > 0:27:49Still to come:

0:27:49 > 0:27:52You may be familiar with the hit blog 'Mummy was a Secret Drinker',

0:27:52 > 0:27:54about Clare Pooley's realisation that her casual drinking

0:27:54 > 0:27:55was getting out of control.

0:27:55 > 0:28:01She's giving us her first TV interview shortly.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03The roll-out of Universal Credit has not been without problems

0:28:03 > 0:28:06but a new report warns that vulnerable people are at risk

0:28:06 > 0:28:07of financial difficulties

0:28:07 > 0:28:08when they transfer over from tax credits.

0:28:08 > 0:28:16We'll hear one man's experience.

0:28:20 > 0:28:21Time for the latest news.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24The BBC News headlines this morning.

0:28:24 > 0:28:26A huge fire is blazing at Nottingham railway station.

0:28:26 > 0:28:28Nottinghamshire Fire and rescue say they're dealing with a 'large

0:28:28 > 0:28:30incident' with multiple fire engines at the scene.

0:28:30 > 0:28:34The station has been evacuated.

0:28:34 > 0:28:37East Midland Trains say all trains through the station are cancelled

0:28:37 > 0:28:38and they expect disruptions.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41Donald Trump has cancelled his planned visit to the UK next month.

0:28:41 > 0:28:44The US President tweeted that he had cancelled the planned visit

0:28:44 > 0:28:47as he didn't want to open the new American embassy in London -

0:28:47 > 0:28:49which he incorrectly stated had been commissioned by his predecessor,

0:28:49 > 0:28:51Barack Obama.

0:28:51 > 0:28:54A study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

0:28:54 > 0:28:57mastectomy does not increase the chances of survival in younger

0:28:57 > 0:28:59patients who have what's known as the BRAC1 gene.

0:28:59 > 0:29:01The researchers also found that women treated for breast cancer had

0:29:01 > 0:29:04the same survival rates - regardless of whether or not

0:29:04 > 0:29:09they had the mutation.

0:29:09 > 0:29:11An 18-year-old from the Scottish highlands has died after

0:29:11 > 0:29:13contracting the flu virus.

0:29:13 > 0:29:15Bethany Walker was airlifted to hospital in Inverness

0:29:15 > 0:29:18from her home in Wester Ross, but her illness had developed

0:29:18 > 0:29:23into pneumonia and staff were unable to save her.

0:29:23 > 0:29:26Elsewhere, in England, there has been a sharp rise

0:29:26 > 0:29:32in the number of flu cases seen by GPs - up 78 % from last week.

0:29:32 > 0:29:35The conduct of the media is expected to be examined by the independent

0:29:35 > 0:29:38review into the response to the Manchester Arena bombing.

0:29:38 > 0:29:4122 people were killed when a bomb was set off after a pop concert

0:29:41 > 0:29:44at the venue in May.

0:29:44 > 0:29:46Several of the bereaved families have raised concerns

0:29:46 > 0:29:47about the reporting of the attack.

0:29:47 > 0:29:54The review will also look at the role played by social media.

0:29:54 > 0:29:57The BBC is said "deeply unimpressed" with an off-air chat in which two

0:29:57 > 0:30:00of its presenters joked about the pay gap between the sexes.

0:30:00 > 0:30:03That's according to a source at the corporation.

0:30:03 > 0:30:05BBC Radio 4 Today presenter John Humphrys and North America

0:30:05 > 0:30:09editor Jon Sopel were discussing Carrie Gracie, who had just quit her

0:30:09 > 0:30:13China Editor job over equal pay.

0:30:13 > 0:30:16In an exchange before Monday's show, it's reported they

0:30:16 > 0:30:19they joked about "handing over" pay to keep her in post.

0:30:19 > 0:30:20A BBC spokeswoman said the presenter regrets

0:30:20 > 0:30:28the "ill-advised" conversation.

0:30:30 > 0:30:34The Queen has been talking about some of the challenges she faced at

0:30:34 > 0:30:39her coronation 65 years ago. She spoke candidly about the heaviness

0:30:39 > 0:30:43of the crown she wore and noted it was lucky her and her father King

0:30:43 > 0:30:48George VI had the same sort of shaped head. The correlation will be

0:30:48 > 0:30:52on BBC One at eight this Sunday.

0:30:52 > 0:30:56That's a summary of the latest BBC news.

0:30:56 > 0:31:00Here's some sport now.

0:31:00 > 0:31:04Billie Jean King has once again called for the Margaret Court Arena

0:31:04 > 0:31:11in Melbourne to be renamed after Margaret Court made the rocket

0:31:12 > 0:31:14Margaret Court made the rocket -- derogatory comments about gay and

0:31:14 > 0:31:17transgender people last year. Billie Jean King said as a gay woman she

0:31:17 > 0:31:21would not play on the court that she was still on tour. Heather Watson

0:31:21 > 0:31:25missed out on her first WTA final in two years after she was beaten in

0:31:25 > 0:31:30the semifinal of the Hobart open. She lost in three sets to defending

0:31:30 > 0:31:35champion Elise Merson 's. Alexis Sanchez, he is likely to leave the

0:31:35 > 0:31:41FA Cup holders this January if a suitable offer arrives and our

0:31:41 > 0:31:45replacement is secured. And Anthony Joshua's unification fight against

0:31:45 > 0:31:50Joseph Parker New Zealand could be confirmed in the next 24 hours.

0:31:50 > 0:31:54Parker is set to arrive in London this weekend with the news

0:31:54 > 0:32:00conference planned for next week.

0:32:00 > 0:32:05We are keeping you updated on this fire at Nottingham train station.

0:32:05 > 0:32:08Hopefully we'll be able to speak to someone in the next few minutes who

0:32:08 > 0:32:14has got in touch with the BBC weather own experience of what

0:32:14 > 0:32:17happened at Nottingham train station. I arrived at Nottingham

0:32:17 > 0:32:22train station at 6:35am when there was a fire engine at front but not

0:32:22 > 0:32:26clear what was happening, I got a lift towards the main concourse,

0:32:26 > 0:32:29walked towards the entrance and was greeted by a member of staff who

0:32:29 > 0:32:34said we had to evacuate. She goes on to say there is a strong smell of

0:32:34 > 0:32:39burning plastic and they were all moved away from the area. Smoke

0:32:39 > 0:32:42filling the buildings. We will try to connect with them in the next few

0:32:42 > 0:32:46minutes and if we do manage that we will get their take on what

0:32:46 > 0:32:50happened. Quite dramatic pictures coming in.

0:32:50 > 0:32:53When you stop smoking or cut back on sugar, people applaud you,

0:32:53 > 0:32:55but as Clare Pooley discovered, it's not always the case

0:32:55 > 0:32:57when you tell people you're going sober.

0:32:57 > 0:33:00Clare is a mum of three and realised her wine habit was out

0:33:00 > 0:33:03of control when she was drinking up to 10 bottles a week

0:33:03 > 0:33:05and covering up how much drank.

0:33:05 > 0:33:07In March 2016 she decided to change her life and quit

0:33:07 > 0:33:08the booze for good.

0:33:08 > 0:33:11And in and effort to find support she started a blog called 'Mummy

0:33:11 > 0:33:14was a Secret Drinker'.

0:33:14 > 0:33:19I'm pleased to say Clare is with us for her first TV interview.

0:33:19 > 0:33:26Thank you for coming in. Often when you talk to people who have some

0:33:26 > 0:33:30kind of addiction they say there was a defining moment, a turning point,

0:33:30 > 0:33:37did you have that?Not really, it was more a creeping realisation that

0:33:37 > 0:33:40the thing I thought was my best friend, white wine, was my worst

0:33:40 > 0:33:45enemy. The amount I used to drink at the end of the day when I had put

0:33:45 > 0:33:51the children to bed to relax, it started off as one glass, then it

0:33:51 > 0:33:55became two and then three and eventually I was drinking about a

0:33:55 > 0:34:00bottle of wine per day and more at the weekend. It was just a creeping

0:34:00 > 0:34:04realisation that it wasn't doing me any good physically or mentally. I

0:34:04 > 0:34:09was two stone over weight, I would wake up in the middle of the night

0:34:09 > 0:34:14unable to get back to sleep and I was anxious a lot of the time. My

0:34:14 > 0:34:21whole life was stuck in at. It became obvious to me that wine was

0:34:21 > 0:34:28to blame.Did your husband picked up on it at all?He told me that he

0:34:28 > 0:34:32thought I should cut down.That is a difficult thing to fear from your

0:34:32 > 0:34:40partner.Yes, I did not take it well, and my mother said something

0:34:40 > 0:34:44as well but that was all I heard. My friends and family mostly thought I

0:34:44 > 0:34:47was drinking the same way anyone else was. My Facebook feed filled

0:34:47 > 0:34:52with jokes about money 's little helper and they accepted thing that

0:34:52 > 0:34:59that was what mums do at the end of the day. I don't think anyone saw it

0:34:59 > 0:35:04as a major problem and nobody realised how much I was drinking,

0:35:04 > 0:35:08even I didn't realise because it took me a long time to add it all

0:35:08 > 0:35:12up.Why did you drink, just to wind down or was there an element of

0:35:12 > 0:35:18boredom? I know you had a successful career and then became a full-time

0:35:18 > 0:35:23mum and sometimes it can be difficult to make that adjustment.I

0:35:23 > 0:35:27saw motherhood from both sides as I did it as a working mother and then

0:35:27 > 0:35:30a stay at home mother and both were incredibly rewarding and also quite

0:35:30 > 0:35:39stressful. Sometimes boring, sometimes, it's hard work. So yes I

0:35:39 > 0:35:46drank as a way of alleviating that I guess. But to be honest I drank to

0:35:46 > 0:35:50celebrate and commiserate, when I was feeling stressed or was feeling

0:35:50 > 0:36:00happy. I drank for quite a number of different reasons.I have two young

0:36:00 > 0:36:03girls and I know often as you are dragging the children back from

0:36:03 > 0:36:10school and one of them is having a tantrum, another mother will walk

0:36:10 > 0:36:14past and say, not long until you can have a glass of wine! There is a

0:36:14 > 0:36:19culture that sometimes it's the thing to get through. In your book

0:36:19 > 0:36:22you wrote that if you stood by the school gates and said if I am going

0:36:22 > 0:36:26to go home and have a line of cocaine that people would not say

0:36:26 > 0:36:31that is OK but going home to have that glass of wine is encouraged.

0:36:31 > 0:36:38Yes and I think that is part of the problem, it's so normalised. It is

0:36:38 > 0:36:45absolutely part of our culture. 80% of the adult population drink and

0:36:45 > 0:36:52mums, it's much more common than not.How did you go about it? Did

0:36:52 > 0:36:57you start to limit your intake, did you go cold turkey?I tried for a

0:36:57 > 0:37:01number of years to moderate and drink normally and sensibly because

0:37:01 > 0:37:06I didn't want to give up altogether, I just wanted to drink with the

0:37:06 > 0:37:09government guidelines. But what I realised as I am all are nothing and

0:37:09 > 0:37:15moderation is not my thing. I would set myself rules like I will only

0:37:15 > 0:37:19drink when I go out or I will only drink at weekends or I will need

0:37:19 > 0:37:22drink beer because I don't really like it and I could not stick to

0:37:22 > 0:37:27those rules and it was exhausting trying to keep a lid on it. I find

0:37:27 > 0:37:32it so much easier and liberating just to give up altogether. Now I

0:37:32 > 0:37:37have this sense of freedom, I don't have to worry about any of that any

0:37:37 > 0:37:44more. It's immense liberation.How did you go about it, if you're

0:37:44 > 0:37:46drinking that much presumably it's quite hard physically if nothing

0:37:46 > 0:37:52else to withdraw?The withdrawal effects are over quite quickly to be

0:37:52 > 0:37:59honest. A few days of feeling mild flu but the tricky thing is

0:37:59 > 0:38:06retraining your brain. I spent 20 years automatically reaching for a

0:38:06 > 0:38:11glass of wine for so many different reasons. If I was stressed.

0:38:11 > 0:38:18Retraining yourself to find other healthier ways of dealing with

0:38:18 > 0:38:22everyday ups and downs takes quite a long time. That's tricky. And

0:38:22 > 0:38:27dealing with other people's reactions.That's what I wanted to

0:38:27 > 0:38:30ask, often if you go out and say you are not drinking people will try to

0:38:30 > 0:38:35convince you.Yes, people's reactions are odd. Often they want

0:38:35 > 0:38:38to know why you have stopped, they want to know the horror stories,

0:38:38 > 0:38:45they assume you are a terrible mother and you were drinking first

0:38:45 > 0:38:50thing in the morning or whatever. Or they think you will be very boring

0:38:50 > 0:38:58or they think you're going to judge them and none of that is true.

0:38:58 > 0:39:00them and none of that is true. Other people's reactions are tricky to

0:39:00 > 0:39:04deal with.Did you judge yourself? Did you think you were a terrible

0:39:04 > 0:39:09mother?I did and I think that is part of the problem with alcohol

0:39:09 > 0:39:13addiction, there is a lot of shame involved. I did not like myself by

0:39:13 > 0:39:16the end and one of the best things about quitting as I like myself

0:39:16 > 0:39:21again.

0:39:21 > 0:39:24again.You wrote this blogger and it was secretive at first, people did

0:39:24 > 0:39:30not know who you wear?Yeah, I wrote it as therapy, it was my way of

0:39:30 > 0:39:34working everything in it out and I did not expect people to find it and

0:39:34 > 0:39:37I did not publicise it. But hundreds of thousands of women around the

0:39:37 > 0:39:44world and some men phoned me and said I have felt the same thing and

0:39:44 > 0:39:50I am so relieved to find out I am not the only one. Since my book came

0:39:50 > 0:39:54out ten days ago I've had the same thing. Hundreds of messages from

0:39:54 > 0:39:59people all over the world saying I thought this was just me and it's

0:39:59 > 0:40:05such a relief to find out it isn't. There are a lot of women, mothers

0:40:05 > 0:40:09particularly out there who have the same issue but have been too

0:40:09 > 0:40:14frightened to say anything because we worry about being judged.I was

0:40:14 > 0:40:20reading one of your children noticed you had stopped drinking.Yes,

0:40:20 > 0:40:25actually I asked if they thought I was different and at the time I

0:40:25 > 0:40:30think he was nine and I said do you think money is different Sunjic she

0:40:30 > 0:40:35stopped drinking and he went yes, you are more, and I paused thinking

0:40:35 > 0:40:42what is he going to say? He said you are more money issue and I thought

0:40:42 > 0:40:48"Hooray" because that's what I wanted to be.

0:40:51 > 0:41:00wanted to be.Thank you so much for coming in.

0:41:03 > 0:41:06With President Trump cancelling his visit to the UK is this the end of

0:41:06 > 0:41:13the special relationship? Let's head back to Nottingham and speak to

0:41:13 > 0:41:19someone caught up in the fire at Nottingham train station. I was

0:41:19 > 0:41:25reading a bit of text which was sent an earlier on to the BBC. Tell me

0:41:25 > 0:41:30what you saw, you got to the train station around 6:30am is that right?

0:41:30 > 0:41:39Yes, just after for the 6:52am train to London. There was a fire engine

0:41:39 > 0:41:43at the front, I did not know if it was linked anything so I carried on

0:41:43 > 0:41:47into the station. Went up to the concourse and as I was entering the

0:41:47 > 0:41:51doors there was smoke everywhere and a member of staff came out and said

0:41:51 > 0:41:56we had to evacuate the building. So we did that, went outside and there

0:41:56 > 0:42:05was smoke billowing out the sides. Quite a sight really.Whether many

0:42:05 > 0:42:11people around at that time of day? Not that many at that time. A few

0:42:11 > 0:42:15people, I would say no more than 20, just stood outside wondering what

0:42:15 > 0:42:21was going on. Fire alarms were going off and the police and the fire

0:42:21 > 0:42:25engine at the front of the station so we stood around for a bit not

0:42:25 > 0:42:30knowing what to do then we were asked to move back because the smoke

0:42:30 > 0:42:35started getting quite heavy close to where we wear.The pictures look

0:42:35 > 0:42:41incredibly dramatic, do they do justice to what you saw?It was

0:42:41 > 0:42:46dramatic. I have never seen, been that close to a fire like that

0:42:46 > 0:42:50before. I could not see any flames from where I was stood but there was

0:42:50 > 0:42:53definitely smoke and you could smell burning and all that kind of thing.

0:42:53 > 0:42:59Then we were asked to move away from the area and go across the bridge

0:42:59 > 0:43:02and that is when you could see it from a distance and you could see

0:43:02 > 0:43:08the top of the flames, this red he is a of black smoke billowing out

0:43:08 > 0:43:14the top. That is when the wee side properly and realised how serious it

0:43:14 > 0:43:21was.Whether a lot of fire engines at the scene and firefighters?Yeah,

0:43:21 > 0:43:2812-mac firefighters wandering around making sure nobody else was inside.

0:43:30 > 0:43:33It seemed every five minutes there were more emergency vehicles

0:43:33 > 0:43:36arriving at the scene so you knew it must have been quite bad if they

0:43:36 > 0:43:41kept having to call more people. Were people worried, was there a

0:43:41 > 0:43:48sense of panic? Or were people just can't doing what they were told?

0:43:48 > 0:43:51Nobody was worried, it was quite obvious what was happening and

0:43:51 > 0:43:54everyone was calmly trying to figure out what they will do, how they were

0:43:54 > 0:44:00going to get where they needed to go.Thanks ever so much for giving

0:44:00 > 0:44:08us your eyewitness account of that fire.

0:44:08 > 0:44:13fire. Let me read you this which has come from the Mayor of London Sadiq

0:44:13 > 0:44:18Khan. He has issued the following statement on the cancellation of

0:44:18 > 0:44:25President Trump's visit. Sadiq Khan says it appears President Trump got

0:44:25 > 0:44:29the message from the many Londoners who love and admire America and

0:44:29 > 0:44:33Americans but find his policies and actions the polar opposite of our

0:44:33 > 0:44:37cities values of inclusion, diversity and tolerance. His visit

0:44:37 > 0:44:42next month would without doubt have been met by mass peaceful protests.

0:44:42 > 0:44:46This just reinforces what a mistake it was for Theresa May to rush and

0:44:46 > 0:44:50extend an invitation of a state visit in the first place. Let's hope

0:44:50 > 0:44:55Donald Trump also revisits the pursuit of his divisive agenda. That

0:44:55 > 0:45:01is a

0:45:01 > 0:45:03is a statement coming in from the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan after

0:45:03 > 0:45:06President Trump said he is going to cancel his trip. He is meant to be

0:45:06 > 0:45:10opening the new American embassy which has moved to Vauxhall. He was

0:45:10 > 0:45:13unimpressed by it and blamed Barack Obama for the decision but the

0:45:13 > 0:45:17decision was taken during the George W. Bush administration but the

0:45:17 > 0:45:23details of where iron out during the Obama administration. But as we know

0:45:23 > 0:45:27Theresa May has said a visit by President Trump will happen at some

0:45:27 > 0:45:30point, she was talking to Andrew Marr on the BBC in the last few

0:45:30 > 0:45:36days.

0:45:41 > 0:45:47Your experience as well, I whine o'clock. Do you find that if you're

0:45:47 > 0:45:54a stay at home mum, a working mum, do you often open a bottle earlier

0:45:54 > 0:45:58and earlier? Do find that your drinking is starting earlier and

0:45:58 > 0:46:03earlier? I tried to modify her drinking and thought it was not

0:46:03 > 0:46:06possible to give up drinking. Tina said she has not drunk and 27 years

0:46:06 > 0:46:11as she was a binge drinker and used it as an escape and now hate the

0:46:11 > 0:46:15thought of being drunk and much prefers to be in control of herself.

0:46:15 > 0:46:20I think we are also going to get some more information coming through

0:46:20 > 0:46:27on the fire from Nottingham. Of course, that train station fire. We

0:46:27 > 0:46:31were talking to Laura just a few minutes ago. Lots of reporters down

0:46:31 > 0:46:36on the scene trying to get a sense of that scale of the fire. Victoria

0:46:36 > 0:46:41Norris is that the scene. John Mills is the operational commander there.

0:46:41 > 0:46:46He has been speaking to reporters at the scene. He said that at 6:30am

0:46:46 > 0:46:54there was a call about a fire in toilets which had developed and

0:46:54 > 0:47:00spread. It was a demanding incident that had spread quickly. The fire

0:47:00 > 0:47:04has progressed into voids. There are no casualties or injuries. That has

0:47:04 > 0:47:10been confirmed. There are emergency services involved. He says nothing

0:47:10 > 0:47:19can be ruled out at this stage. Police are investigating as well as

0:47:19 > 0:47:24fire investigators. The fire is still burning, it did spread very

0:47:24 > 0:47:28quickly. The operational commander went on to say this fire was about

0:47:28 > 0:47:33complexity, rather than the size. Fire in voids, where you cannot see

0:47:33 > 0:47:37the orange flames, and the heat was very significant. Clearly the

0:47:37 > 0:47:42station will be closed for the rest of the day. Huge implications are

0:47:42 > 0:47:47for people who are trying to commute. Many people commute from

0:47:47 > 0:47:50Nottingham into London. No trains for the rest of the day. Clearly,

0:47:50 > 0:47:54you need to have other plans if you're trying to get from Nottingham

0:47:54 > 0:47:55station to anywhere else.

0:47:55 > 0:47:58We've talked a lot on this programme about the difficulties some people

0:47:58 > 0:48:00face when they are moved onto universal Credit -

0:48:00 > 0:48:03that's the new benefit system consolidating six payments into one.

0:48:03 > 0:48:07Today the government is being warned that people claiming tax credits

0:48:07 > 0:48:09are at risk of financial problems as they transfer

0:48:09 > 0:48:10to Universal Credit.

0:48:10 > 0:48:13MPs on the Public Accounts Committee are particularly concerned that

0:48:13 > 0:48:16people are being over-payed in error and will struggle to pay it back.

0:48:16 > 0:48:18We've reported extensively on the hardship faced by some people

0:48:18 > 0:48:19on Universal Credit.

0:48:19 > 0:48:27Here's a clip from a woman who spoke to us last year.

0:48:30 > 0:48:33They've turned round and said I have to wait between six weeks and three

0:48:33 > 0:48:34months before I get payment.

0:48:34 > 0:48:37And so, for the last two and a half weeks,

0:48:37 > 0:48:39you haven't had any money in at all?

0:48:39 > 0:48:40Nothing, nothing whatsoever.

0:48:40 > 0:48:42And how have things been for you in that time?

0:48:42 > 0:48:43Very, very difficult.

0:48:43 > 0:48:45Last weekend, we've had no food, my five-year-old's last

0:48:45 > 0:48:49food was school dinners.

0:48:49 > 0:48:52On the Saturday, we were walking down the street,

0:48:52 > 0:48:55and she was searching in bins for food, cos she was starving.

0:48:55 > 0:48:58She was, like, ripping McDonald's bags to see if there was any chips

0:48:58 > 0:48:59or anything on the floor.

0:48:59 > 0:49:02It was awful, broke my heart.

0:49:02 > 0:49:04Sunday, there was no food, she was going to bed,

0:49:04 > 0:49:06her stomach was rumbling - "I'm hungry, I'm

0:49:06 > 0:49:08hungry, I'm hungry."

0:49:08 > 0:49:10And she had no food Saturday, Sunday, went to school

0:49:10 > 0:49:13really, really hungry.

0:49:13 > 0:49:16You take her to bed, and her tummy's rumbling,

0:49:16 > 0:49:20and you're just giving her water, but she wants food, and you can't...

0:49:20 > 0:49:23I can't go into the shop and steal, it's awful.

0:49:23 > 0:49:26I can't keep asking neighbours for food, because I shouldn't

0:49:26 > 0:49:28have to live like this.

0:49:28 > 0:49:29That is awful.

0:49:29 > 0:49:33I had to go to foodbank to get some food, you know.

0:49:33 > 0:49:36Without that, they would still be without food now.

0:49:36 > 0:49:39I don't know if I'm going to still have my house,

0:49:39 > 0:49:42because I need to pay my rent, council tax is due, I don't know.

0:49:42 > 0:49:44It's...my worst nightmare.

0:49:44 > 0:49:47What do I do next?

0:49:47 > 0:49:50Do I beg on the street to get some milk and bread?

0:49:50 > 0:49:51I don't want to do that either.

0:49:51 > 0:49:59But it might come to the stage where I have to.

0:50:02 > 0:50:09Now we will talk to Shabana Mahmood from the Public Accounts Committee,

0:50:09 > 0:50:18It Boyd is the managing director for the Centre for Social Justice and

0:50:18 > 0:50:22Brendan Faulkner, a Universal Credit recipient who has had serious

0:50:22 > 0:50:27financial difficulty.

0:50:27 > 0:50:32do you understand some of the concerns, and there have been many

0:50:32 > 0:50:35that have been highlighted, although Universal Credit?There have been a

0:50:35 > 0:50:38number of rightful concern is to make sure that as people transition

0:50:38 > 0:50:43from the older to the new that it happens really smoothly and easily,

0:50:43 > 0:50:47and what was welcomed was assumed the government towards the last year

0:50:47 > 0:50:51put £1.5 billion more in to make sure that if somebody comes into the

0:50:51 > 0:50:54system with any financial hardship, that within 24 hours they can get

0:50:54 > 0:50:58their entire payment. We did not have that before. There was a bit of

0:50:58 > 0:51:02an issue but we have that now and we should see as new people come on,

0:51:02 > 0:51:05that should make a massive difference and stop people falling

0:51:05 > 0:51:10into poverty, which is a fantastic thing.This will be eloquently

0:51:10 > 0:51:16outlined any moment when Mr Mahmud joins us, but the concern that the

0:51:16 > 0:51:21Public Accounts Committee has is that people are going to be

0:51:21 > 0:51:25overpaid, clearly not their fault, and then that money will be clawed

0:51:25 > 0:51:29back and, in certain cases, that means real, real hardship because

0:51:29 > 0:51:33the amount of money being clawed back every month, which is not their

0:51:33 > 0:51:37month, means they are struggling to survive.There is a huge issue here

0:51:37 > 0:51:40and there has been for decades. Under tax credits, you would be

0:51:40 > 0:51:45overpaid and then at the end of the year somebody would say you need to

0:51:45 > 0:51:48give us thousands of pounds, we would like it back. Often that

0:51:48 > 0:51:52request was made in one go at the end of the year. What is better

0:51:52 > 0:51:55about Universal Credit, and it was designed to tackle this problem, it

0:51:55 > 0:51:59is not waiting to be end of the year. Every single month is more

0:51:59 > 0:52:03limited back. Generally it is about £30 per month, the maximum.That is

0:52:03 > 0:52:09a lot of money. If they are living on benefits, that is a small -- not

0:52:09 > 0:52:12a small amount of money. It makes the difference between being able to

0:52:12 > 0:52:18get food or putting the heating on. It is about 3% of the average

0:52:18 > 0:52:21amount, a sizeable amount, but this is where the work coaches on the

0:52:21 > 0:52:25front line need to make good calls. In what, it is set out that they

0:52:25 > 0:52:31should not ring back money any quicker, and in a way that would

0:52:31 > 0:52:35push people into poverty. The law clearly sets that out and there is

0:52:35 > 0:52:38flexibility for each work coached to do it merit by merit. If they think

0:52:38 > 0:52:43this will push somebody into poverty, they can reduce the amount

0:52:43 > 0:52:46to as little as £1 per month to make sure that people have enough to go

0:52:46 > 0:52:52by. Those people need to use that discretion, they need to be trained

0:52:52 > 0:52:57really well and as the new system come on, but will be litmus test.I

0:52:57 > 0:53:00think that could be music to the ears of Brendan Faulkner, who is

0:53:00 > 0:53:04just over your shoulder. Thank you for joining us. Edward was just

0:53:04 > 0:53:10talking to us about how there can be flexibility on the system. If you

0:53:10 > 0:53:13are overpaid on tax credits, they can reduce the amount you have to be

0:53:13 > 0:53:18back. Tell us what happened to your tax credits when you removed over to

0:53:18 > 0:53:24Universal Credit.I was on child tax credits and then I got a letter to

0:53:24 > 0:53:30say I had been overpaid by, I think, £110. That they would be in touch

0:53:30 > 0:53:34with me in the future to see how much they would be going back. They

0:53:34 > 0:53:39never got in touch with me. I have said the letters by recorded

0:53:39 > 0:53:47delivery to find out, you know, when this is from, what date it is from

0:53:47 > 0:53:50and until. They never gave me the dates that it was possibly overpaid

0:53:50 > 0:53:57until. They started taking the money out of my benefit, without

0:53:57 > 0:54:02consulting with me.So, they did not warn you that they were going to

0:54:02 > 0:54:06take the money?No, it is only 10.20 5p per month, I have checked this

0:54:06 > 0:54:11morning, but when I went my journal, and I have -- if I had not gone on

0:54:11 > 0:54:16to that is EMI other deductions are going, I would not have even known

0:54:16 > 0:54:23that I was... The money was being taken for tax credits.What impact

0:54:23 > 0:54:28is that money that is being taken away from you having on your ability

0:54:28 > 0:54:35to clothe yourself, feed yourself, pretty roof over your head?Well,

0:54:35 > 0:54:40going over to Universal Credit, I did lose a certain amount anyway

0:54:40 > 0:54:48from my jobseeker's allowance. Roughly £30 per week. So, I have

0:54:48 > 0:54:53lost that on the Universal Credit and then this on top, it is a few

0:54:53 > 0:54:59days electric, this £10, or it is, you know, going towards my shopping.

0:54:59 > 0:55:03I am a single dad, I have my son, I have got him to a deal to bring up

0:55:03 > 0:55:07between me and his mum. I have got to make sure that he is clothed and

0:55:07 > 0:55:12fed. It is not there to leave it all to his mother, obviously, and he is

0:55:12 > 0:55:18worth the week anyway. Use a seven-year-old lad, growing, so I

0:55:18 > 0:55:24have to make sure he is OK. School shoes, keeping up with the friends

0:55:24 > 0:55:29of skill. Obviously cannot afford the latest trainers, but a decent

0:55:29 > 0:55:35clothing.And they grow so fast. This one does!Just hearing what

0:55:35 > 0:55:38Edward said, that those payments... It is not your fault that you were

0:55:38 > 0:55:43overpaid, they could be reduced to £2 per week. Without be better for

0:55:43 > 0:55:47you or would you rather get rid of it sooner?You know, it is £10 25

0:55:47 > 0:55:58per month. I do not mind it carrying on at that amount. It is negligible,

0:55:58 > 0:56:01£2 per week, but it would mean nice to be informed about what would

0:56:01 > 0:56:08happen. I was not informed. I have three letters to HMRC to see, you

0:56:08 > 0:56:12know, what the gates were, to see if I did all this money, and I have

0:56:12 > 0:56:16heard nothing back. I have tried phoning, you are on the phone for

0:56:16 > 0:56:20ever and nobody gives you an answer. And that is frustrating. Listen, I

0:56:20 > 0:56:25want to bring and other speakers. Someone from the Public Accounts

0:56:25 > 0:56:29Committee has joined us. Can you outline what the concerns are the

0:56:29 > 0:56:33Public Accounts Committee average tax credits and people moving over

0:56:33 > 0:56:36to Universal Credit?Good morning. Our major concern in the committee

0:56:36 > 0:56:42was that a large number of people have an overpayment on their tax

0:56:42 > 0:56:46credit accounts. It is mostly due to error, occasionally due to fraud.

0:56:46 > 0:56:50But we are particularly concerned about those who have an overpayment

0:56:50 > 0:56:54and as they are transferred on to Universal Credit, there is a risk

0:56:54 > 0:57:00that overpayment follows them and the Department for Work & Pensions,

0:57:00 > 0:57:02who administer Universal Credit, have much greater powers when it

0:57:02 > 0:57:06comes to recovery of money by way of overpayment. They can take money

0:57:06 > 0:57:10directly from your earnings, which is a very different approach to what

0:57:10 > 0:57:14HMRC currently have in relation to tax credits. We were concerned that

0:57:14 > 0:57:17this might fall through between two different government departments and

0:57:17 > 0:57:21there has not been a conversation between both of those as to how they

0:57:21 > 0:57:25will work together to migrate claimants. My particular concern is

0:57:25 > 0:57:30a constituency MP, was a lot of constituents on tax credits, they

0:57:30 > 0:57:33might find that they are pushed further into poverty when they move

0:57:33 > 0:57:39into Universal Credit through no fault of their own.One of the

0:57:39 > 0:57:45important thing is Universal Credit, Brendan's topic is fattening, --

0:57:45 > 0:57:48fascinating, clearly there should be much more communication. It is

0:57:48 > 0:57:53worrying that you should not cure that. You said that he wrote to

0:57:53 > 0:57:58HMRC, it is one the DWP, they should be getting back to you clearly

0:57:58 > 0:58:01anyway. In terms of Bishop people into poverty, if you step back from

0:58:01 > 0:58:06the detail where there is a few cases where communication has not

0:58:06 > 0:58:10been great, this should lead to 250,000 more people being in work.

0:58:10 > 0:58:15The result of that is huge. A child growing up any workless family, they

0:58:15 > 0:58:19are three times more likely to be in poverty. This supports people more

0:58:19 > 0:58:22to work. All the evidence from government and the IFS and everybody

0:58:22 > 0:58:26else says this is one of the most effective poverty fighting tool. To

0:58:26 > 0:58:33see it pushes people into poverty feels like it is stretching the ball

0:58:33 > 0:58:36too far.I think a misunderstanding -- your misunderstanding. It was not

0:58:36 > 0:58:39about whether Universal Credit is a good reform or not, that is a matter

0:58:39 > 0:58:42for another committee on another day. We are concerned about tax

0:58:42 > 0:58:46credits and overpayment on tax credits which are forecast to rise,

0:58:46 > 0:58:50and how they will be migrated onto Universal Credit. This is a matter

0:58:50 > 0:58:58of administration. It requires those two government departments to talk

0:58:58 > 0:59:01to one another and make sure they have a process in place so that

0:59:01 > 0:59:03accidentally we do not find that people, through lack of good

0:59:03 > 0:59:05administrative practice, are forced into greater poverty than is

0:59:05 > 0:59:08necessary. We want to make sure that conversation happens and that is why

0:59:08 > 0:59:11we asked HMRC to come back to us at the end of March with a proper plan

0:59:11 > 0:59:14of action. This is one of those things that will just slept through

0:59:14 > 0:59:19the net, and as a constituency MP, I will have people coming to my advice

0:59:19 > 0:59:24surgery

0:59:28 > 0:59:30surgery with those very specific problem and we are trying to get

0:59:30 > 0:59:33that off.Thank you ever so much for joining us this morning, all of you.

0:59:33 > 0:59:35We asked the government for a representative

0:59:35 > 0:59:37to join us but were given the following statement from HMRC:

0:59:37 > 0:59:39Just like the previous system, tax credit overpayments

0:59:39 > 0:59:41are recovered by regular deductions and people are told

0:59:41 > 0:59:43about this in advance.

0:59:43 > 0:59:45There are safeguards in place to protect claimants from large

0:59:45 > 0:59:48deductions being taken at one time and budgeting support is available

0:59:48 > 0:59:49to help people manage their money.

0:59:49 > 0:59:50Let's get the latest weather update.

0:59:50 > 0:59:53Let's get the latest weather update.

0:59:53 > 0:59:55How is it looking? Always ready and waiting. I have got

0:59:55 > 0:59:59news of a change in weather take over the next few days. Stay with

0:59:59 > 1:00:05me. Things are said to liven up a little bit, for the weather. Lots of

1:00:05 > 1:00:08great skies around for many. Misty, foggy mornings but through Sunday

1:00:08 > 1:00:12night and into Monday, we will see heavy rain and strong winds for a

1:00:12 > 1:00:16spell. Once that clears, a big weather change for next week. Much,

1:00:16 > 1:00:21much colder, and clearer at times, but we will see some strong winds

1:00:21 > 1:00:25and wintry showers heading our way. Bringing that weather change is a

1:00:25 > 1:00:30change of the jet stream is. This ribbon of fast flowing in is coming

1:00:30 > 1:00:34out of the US and Canada, diving up and down, never really pushing

1:00:34 > 1:00:37towards us, so we have been stuck in this benign weather system for the

1:00:37 > 1:00:40past two days. If we show you what happens to that by Sunday, it

1:00:40 > 1:00:44charges towards us. It is that which will engineer the change in weather

1:00:44 > 1:00:48type for next week. That is a few days away. I'd fear at the moment it

1:00:48 > 1:00:53is a case of as you were. Lots of great cloud outside. Some mist and

1:00:53 > 1:00:56fog still lingering at the moment. The old spot are no good through

1:00:56 > 1:00:59central and eastern parts of England. Most having a dry day and

1:00:59 > 1:01:03some of you already seen the function. A few more bricks bearing,

1:01:03 > 1:01:07particularly across parts of Wales, England, Cumbria, the central belt

1:01:07 > 1:01:10of Scotland and the far north of Scotland. With sunshine and clouds,

1:01:10 > 1:01:14temperatures were they should be for a time of year. But it will feel

1:01:14 > 1:01:18much better when you have got the sunshine on your back. Into tonight,

1:01:18 > 1:01:22the mist, some low cloud once again continuing. A bit more breeze

1:01:22 > 1:01:26tonight. Follow not so much of an issue. What you will notice is the

1:01:26 > 1:01:29window strengthens towards the West. Returns turns water towards Northern

1:01:29 > 1:01:35Ireland and later into Pembrokeshire and also Cornwall. Main chance of

1:01:35 > 1:01:38frost, probably northern part of Scotland, where skies remain clear

1:01:38 > 1:01:41as overnight. Into the weekend we go. Some sunny breaks, the North of

1:01:41 > 1:01:46Scotland. One or two perhaps brighter breaks compared with recent

1:01:46 > 1:01:50days, but plenty of cloud in the West. Outbreaks of rain coming and

1:01:50 > 1:01:52going all day long in Northern Ireland and turning water across the

1:01:52 > 1:01:55hill fog of Wales, Cornwall, Devon and maybe into the Western fringes

1:01:55 > 1:02:03of Scotland. Slightly cooler and eastern parts. Through Saturday into

1:02:03 > 1:02:07zombie, chance of frost, mist and fog, fairly cloudy day on Sunday. We

1:02:07 > 1:02:13see the weather front line, grinding to a halt. Patchy rain or drizzle

1:02:13 > 1:02:16here. Many eastern areas will be dry. A bit of brightness breaking

1:02:16 > 1:02:20through the cloud but later on we see it turn water towards western

1:02:20 > 1:02:26Scotland and Northern Ireland. Not just wet but windy, and that a spell

1:02:26 > 1:02:30of very windy weather as it sweeps beautifully southwards through

1:02:30 > 1:02:32Sunday into Monday. We will open the day too much, much colder for next

1:02:32 > 1:02:42week and a bit of sleet and snow on the forecast as well.

1:02:42 > 1:02:49Donald Trump cancels a trip to the UK to open the new US embassy.

1:02:49 > 1:02:51In a tweet he blames Obama for the making a bad deal

1:02:51 > 1:02:53and choosing an "off location".

1:02:53 > 1:02:59The new billion-dollar embassy due to open next week, we will get

1:02:59 > 1:03:02reaction to this decision by Donald Trump, including from Mayor of

1:03:02 > 1:03:04London Sadiq Khan.

1:03:04 > 1:03:06We'll be speaking to former British ambassador to

1:03:06 > 1:03:09the United States Lord Renwick.

1:03:09 > 1:03:14We will discuss how this decision will be viewed by the British

1:03:14 > 1:03:18government. There are no reports of casualties but travellers have been

1:03:18 > 1:03:21evacuated and trains cancelled after a fire breaks out at Nottingham

1:03:21 > 1:03:23train station.

1:03:23 > 1:03:26A new study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

1:03:26 > 1:03:29mastectomy does not increase the survival rates of young woman

1:03:29 > 1:03:30who carry the BRCA gene.

1:03:30 > 1:03:36We'll speak to a breast cancer survivor.

1:03:40 > 1:03:41Good morning.

1:03:41 > 1:03:44Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

1:03:44 > 1:03:47Donald Trump has cancelled a planned visit to the UK.

1:03:47 > 1:03:50The US President tweeted that he no longer wants to open

1:03:50 > 1:03:57the new American embassy in London.

1:03:57 > 1:04:00He incorrectly stated it had been commissioned by his predecessor

1:04:00 > 1:04:09Barack Obama. John Donaldson joins me from outside the embassy, this is

1:04:09 > 1:04:16what Donald Trump considers to be an "Off location" but it was the

1:04:16 > 1:04:20Republican predecessor to Barack Obama, George W Bush, who decided

1:04:20 > 1:04:26the location should change.That's right, the decision was made in

1:04:26 > 1:04:30October 2008 which was before President Obama took office so it

1:04:30 > 1:04:34was a decision by George W Bush, he decided to move from the famous

1:04:34 > 1:04:40location in the gross on a square in Mayfair to hearing Vauxhall. This is

1:04:40 > 1:04:44the questioning Belding, it cost more than $1 billion and the

1:04:44 > 1:04:50supposed open for business next week. We have got a reaction

1:04:50 > 1:04:54including from Mayor of London Sadiq Khan who has said it appears

1:04:54 > 1:04:58President Trump got the message from the many Londoners who love and

1:04:58 > 1:05:01admire America and Americans but find things policies and actions the

1:05:01 > 1:05:05polar opposite of our cities values of inclusion, diversity and

1:05:05 > 1:05:11tolerance. He went on to say the visit next month would without doubt

1:05:11 > 1:05:17have been met by mass peaceful protests. This is not the state

1:05:17 > 1:05:22visit people have been talking about which is also controversial, this

1:05:22 > 1:05:28would have been a much more low-profile smaller a fair, the

1:05:28 > 1:05:32state visit still expected to happen next year is still very much in

1:05:32 > 1:05:36doubt.

1:05:36 > 1:05:38A huge fire has ripped through Nottingham railway station.

1:05:38 > 1:05:41Nottinghamshire Fire and rescue described it as a 'large incident'

1:05:41 > 1:05:42with multiple fire engines at the scene.

1:05:42 > 1:05:45Trains are cancelled and the station will remain shut all day.

1:05:45 > 1:05:48A study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

1:05:48 > 1:05:50mastectomy does not increase the chances of survival in younger

1:05:50 > 1:05:54patients who have what's known as the BRCA gene.

1:05:54 > 1:05:57The researchers also found that women treated for breast cancer had

1:05:57 > 1:05:59the same survival rates - regardless of whether or not

1:05:59 > 1:06:04they had the mutation.

1:06:04 > 1:06:06An 18-year-old from the Scottish highlands has died after

1:06:06 > 1:06:07contracting the flu virus.

1:06:07 > 1:06:09Bethany Walker was airlifted to hospital in Inverness

1:06:09 > 1:06:12from her home in Wester Ross, but her illness had developed

1:06:12 > 1:06:16into pneumonia and staff were unable to save her.

1:06:16 > 1:06:20Elsewhere, in England, there has been a sharp rise

1:06:20 > 1:06:24in the number of flu cases seen by GPs - up 78 % from last week.

1:06:24 > 1:06:27The conduct of the media is expected to be examined by the independent

1:06:27 > 1:06:30review into the response to the Manchester Arena bombing.

1:06:30 > 1:06:3422 people were killed when a bomb was set off after a pop concert

1:06:34 > 1:06:36at the venue in May.

1:06:36 > 1:06:39Several of the bereaved families have raised concerns

1:06:39 > 1:06:42about the reporting of the attack.

1:06:42 > 1:06:44The review will also look at the role played by social media.

1:06:44 > 1:06:48The BBC is said "deeply unimpressed" with an off-air chat in which two

1:06:48 > 1:06:51of its presenters joked about the pay gap between the sexes.

1:06:51 > 1:06:54That's according to a source at the corporation.

1:06:54 > 1:06:57BBC Radio 4 Today presenter John Humphrys and North America

1:06:57 > 1:07:01editor Jon Sopel were discussing Carrie Gracie, who had just quit her

1:07:01 > 1:07:05China Editor job over equal pay.

1:07:05 > 1:07:07In an exchange before Monday's show, it's reported they

1:07:07 > 1:07:09they joked about "handing over" pay to keep her in post.

1:07:09 > 1:07:11A BBC spokeswoman said the presenter regrets

1:07:11 > 1:07:19the "ill-advised" conversation.

1:07:22 > 1:07:25Jewellery worth millions of euros stolen from the Ritz hotel in Paris

1:07:25 > 1:07:30has been recovered after one of the thieves dropped his bag while trying

1:07:30 > 1:07:34to escape. Three men armed with axes were arrested after being blocked

1:07:34 > 1:07:39inside the building on Wednesday evening. Two accomplices waiting

1:07:39 > 1:07:42outside on mopeds escaped but dropped the bag containing all the

1:07:42 > 1:07:47jewellery after crashing into pedestrians.

1:07:47 > 1:07:50That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

1:07:50 > 1:07:56Please get in touch on all of the stories we are discussing, if you

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1:07:59 > 1:08:03Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:08:03 > 1:08:07You might remember last year Margaret Court the 11 time

1:08:07 > 1:08:10Australian open winner and avowed Christian voiced opposition to gay

1:08:10 > 1:08:13marriage and made derogatory comments regarding transgender

1:08:13 > 1:08:17people. Ahead of the start of this years tournament the great Billie

1:08:17 > 1:08:22Jean King is now calling for the arena in Melbourne after her to be

1:08:22 > 1:08:27renamed, here is Russell Fuller. Billie Jean King was reigniting the

1:08:27 > 1:08:30debate which started in May when Margaret Court, the winner of 24

1:08:30 > 1:08:36grand slam titles during her career had some very outspoken views on gay

1:08:36 > 1:08:40marriage. She also added tennis was full of lesbians and that

1:08:40 > 1:08:43transgender children were the work of the devil. The Margaret Court

1:08:43 > 1:08:48Arena here in Melbourne Park takes her name and tennis Australia said

1:08:48 > 1:08:52at the time we are not going to change the name even though they

1:08:52 > 1:08:56distance themselves from her views. Today Billie Jean King speaking in

1:08:56 > 1:09:00Melbourne has said the court should have its name changed and that if

1:09:00 > 1:09:02she was playing today she would not be playing any matches on that

1:09:02 > 1:09:11court.Staying down under, a good warm up for Heather Watson, despite

1:09:11 > 1:09:17defeat overnight, missing out on her first WTA final in two years, she

1:09:17 > 1:09:24was beaten in three sets in the semifinal. After 12 years at Arsenal

1:09:24 > 1:09:28Theo Walcott looks like he may well be on his way out of the club very

1:09:28 > 1:09:33soon. This morning Everton boss Sam Allardyce confirmed the teams have

1:09:33 > 1:09:38entered negotiations over the 28-year-old with a permanent

1:09:38 > 1:09:41transfer Everton's preferred option. Sam Allardyce says he would be a

1:09:41 > 1:09:47fantastic addition. And he might not be the only player leaving the

1:09:47 > 1:09:52Emirates, Alexis Sanchez is likely to leave the FA Cup holders this

1:09:52 > 1:09:58January if a suitable offer arrives and other placement is secured.

1:09:58 > 1:10:01Finally Anthony Joshua's hopes of holding free heavyweight titles

1:10:01 > 1:10:07later this year look to have moved a step further. His proposed

1:10:07 > 1:10:10unification fight against Joseph Parker of New Zealand could be

1:10:10 > 1:10:15confirmed within the next 24 hours. Parker is set to arrive in London

1:10:15 > 1:10:19with the news conference to announce the boat next week. That'll be sport

1:10:19 > 1:10:21now.

1:10:21 > 1:10:23Is this an end to the so-called Special Relationship?

1:10:23 > 1:10:25Donald Trump has cancelled his planned visit to Britain

1:10:25 > 1:10:28to officially open the new American embassy in London.

1:10:28 > 1:10:33That was planned for next month.

1:10:33 > 1:10:36The US President took to Twitter to explain his reasons

1:10:36 > 1:10:37behind the decision, blaming the Obama administration

1:10:37 > 1:10:39for selling the best location for 'peanuts' and building

1:10:39 > 1:10:43a new embassy at great cost.

1:10:43 > 1:10:47As well as this visit, Theresa has invited Mr Trump

1:10:47 > 1:10:51for a major state visit this year which has proved controversial.

1:10:51 > 1:10:56Mr Trump's ban on people from several Muslim majority

1:10:56 > 1:10:59countries entering the US sparked protests in cities across the UK.

1:10:59 > 1:11:02And an online petition calling for US president not to receive

1:11:02 > 1:11:08a full state visit drew one point eight million signatures.

1:11:08 > 1:11:12During the Queen's speech at the State Opening

1:11:12 > 1:11:14of Parliament last June the trip wasn't mentioned,

1:11:14 > 1:11:17raising claims it was in doubt.

1:11:17 > 1:11:20And there were signs of strains in the special

1:11:20 > 1:11:24relationship, including disagreements over Mr Trump's move

1:11:24 > 1:11:26to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

1:11:26 > 1:11:29And in November, Mr Trump clashed with Mrs May after she said

1:11:29 > 1:11:32it was 'wrong' for the US president to share videos posted by

1:11:32 > 1:11:35the far-right group Britain First.

1:11:35 > 1:11:37But just last weekend she confirmed the invite

1:11:37 > 1:11:43for a state visit still stood.

1:11:43 > 1:11:47Making decisions in the best interests of the United States.And

1:11:47 > 1:11:52he's coming to this country?He will be coming to this country.

1:11:52 > 1:11:54Lord Renwick is a former British ambassador to the United States,

1:11:54 > 1:11:57and has written a book called "Fighting with Allies," which looks

1:11:57 > 1:11:59at the special relationship between Britain and America.

1:11:59 > 1:12:02Thank you for coming in. Is this bad news for the UK that President Trump

1:12:02 > 1:12:08has pulled out of this visit?It is because the reason he has given for

1:12:08 > 1:12:12doing it is self-evidently not the real reason. The real reason is he

1:12:12 > 1:12:17thinks if he does visit here there will be a huge amount of whining

1:12:17 > 1:12:19from half the political class including the Minister of the

1:12:19 > 1:12:24opposition so he doesn't want to do that in present circumstances and

1:12:24 > 1:12:27who can blame him? From our point of view the bad news about this is that

1:12:27 > 1:12:32if you want to go on trying to have some influence in the world you have

1:12:32 > 1:12:37to talk to the US president. Trump is not always wrong, he's been doing

1:12:37 > 1:12:42far better in the fight against crisis which is very important to us

1:12:42 > 1:12:46than President Obama did. We need a free-trade agreement as we stop

1:12:46 > 1:12:50trading with everyone we badly need a free-trade agreement with the US

1:12:50 > 1:12:55and we need the support for that. If you want to persuade him not to tear

1:12:55 > 1:12:59up the nuclear agreement with Iran you cannot do it by shouting at him,

1:12:59 > 1:13:04you have to try talking to him.Does he see there is a special

1:13:04 > 1:13:08relationship, does he value it? There is not a special relationship

1:13:08 > 1:13:14and there has not been for the last 50 years. Try reading my book! What

1:13:14 > 1:13:18there is is a close relationship, especially in defence, trade,

1:13:18 > 1:13:24investment and so on. Special relationship is the impression we

1:13:24 > 1:13:27are completely different, Trump has just made, he has been welcomed in

1:13:27 > 1:13:34Paris by President Emmanuel Macron, he has been welcomed in China by

1:13:34 > 1:13:37President Shi Zheng

1:13:37 > 1:13:41he has been welcomed by the premised of Japan. I think it's not a good

1:13:41 > 1:13:46development to have him not wanting to come here.Theresa May says he is

1:13:46 > 1:13:52still coming here, do you think a state visit is on?Of course the

1:13:52 > 1:13:55government will say that and probably at some point he will come

1:13:55 > 1:13:59here but not if he thinks is going to get an awful reception.Sadiq

1:13:59 > 1:14:04Khan read out a statement earlier, he said this is good as he realised

1:14:04 > 1:14:10he would face widescale protests, this is good he's not coming.That

1:14:10 > 1:14:18is frankly stupid.Elaborate.The United States is our most important

1:14:18 > 1:14:23ally. How can it be good if the American president does not come to

1:14:23 > 1:14:28Britain when we need American support in a lot of ways. The

1:14:28 > 1:14:31Americans are quite worried about us at the moment, they are worried

1:14:31 > 1:14:35about Brexit and they are extremely worried about the ever increasing

1:14:35 > 1:14:39defence cuts which are reducing the British Army to an absolute shadow

1:14:39 > 1:14:45of its former self. The Americans are great admirers of our Armed

1:14:45 > 1:14:48Forces and have told the government repeatedly that they will be

1:14:48 > 1:14:52extremely concerned if there are further defence cuts here. The fact

1:14:52 > 1:14:56is our importance is shrinking and if you behave as Sadiq Khan wants us

1:14:56 > 1:15:05to it will shrink faster and further.What

1:15:05 > 1:15:07further.What about people who say that the things Donald Trump has

1:15:07 > 1:15:09done, limiting people from Muslim countries, retweeting things from

1:15:09 > 1:15:12Britain first, having views many people in this country find a

1:15:12 > 1:15:15warrant, is it difficult for Theresa May to roll out the red carpet and

1:15:15 > 1:15:20say please be welcome there will be no protests.I have just explained

1:15:20 > 1:15:25that the President of France, who has similar views to us on many

1:15:25 > 1:15:30things, welcomed Donald Trump at the 14 July celebrations in Paris and so

1:15:30 > 1:15:36did the Paris crowd by the way. We should have invited him to the

1:15:36 > 1:15:39Cenotaph celebrations to remind people what they relationship with

1:15:39 > 1:15:42America is all about.Thank you ever so much for coming in.

1:15:45 > 1:15:48Well, let's discuss this further with Bandy X Lee -

1:15:48 > 1:15:52a forensic psychiatrist from Yale University

1:15:52 > 1:15:53and editor of the book

1:15:53 > 1:15:55'The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump'.

1:15:55 > 1:16:02And Drew Liquerman, Spokesperson for Republicans Overseas.

1:16:02 > 1:16:08I want to ask you about some of the points that we picked up with Lord

1:16:08 > 1:16:11Raynet about the special relationship. Do you think the

1:16:11 > 1:16:18special relationship exists between the UK and the US?I do think it

1:16:18 > 1:16:22exists. It is a better rocky, but I do not think that is necessarily a

1:16:22 > 1:16:29result of today's news about Tramp. I think the Jerusalem move

1:16:29 > 1:16:32especially really came off horribly on Republicans and Democrats. A lot

1:16:32 > 1:16:38of Democrats also, the UK trying to tell the US where they can put their

1:16:38 > 1:16:43embassy in another foreign country. It certainly does not help that

1:16:43 > 1:16:49Donald Trump did not feel welcome in the UK whereas they have welcomed

1:16:49 > 1:16:53world leaders from despotic countries with for a time rule that

1:16:53 > 1:16:58persecute minorities and the man leading the fight against his visit,

1:16:58 > 1:17:03Jeremy Corbyn, had shared a stage with Holocaust deniers and ask, his

1:17:03 > 1:17:09rain, so maybe Donald Trump feels this is rocky and Donald Trump would

1:17:09 > 1:17:17rather go and visit Asian Pacific allies, other European countries

1:17:17 > 1:17:20that would welcome them. 'S so he is feeling a bit bruised. Do you think

1:17:20 > 1:17:24President Trump will still come to the UK at some point this year? I am

1:17:24 > 1:17:30sure he still will. This year... Had to say. He will visit the UK at some

1:17:30 > 1:17:36point. I am more than positive. I mean, even before he was president,

1:17:36 > 1:17:39I think the UK is one of the countries he admires the most, I

1:17:39 > 1:17:45just do not know if he thinks now is the right time. 'S I want to talk to

1:17:45 > 1:17:48you both about Donald Trump's else. It is one of the huge discussion by

1:17:48 > 1:17:53now was happening in the US just met. He is undergoing a medical just

1:17:53 > 1:17:56now, something all US presidents have done in recent years. There

1:17:56 > 1:17:59have been many presidents about his health.

1:17:59 > 1:18:03Michael Wolff's recent book has talked about his behaviour at the

1:18:03 > 1:18:09White House, seeing his inner circle regularly question the President's

1:18:09 > 1:18:15mental fitness. Do you question his mental fitness?Thank you for having

1:18:15 > 1:18:18me. First, let me say I speak on my own behalf and not from a

1:18:18 > 1:18:26university. I have been voicing a great deal of concern over his

1:18:26 > 1:18:34apparent mental instability. -- and not for my university. And the

1:18:34 > 1:18:36ramifications that has brought national and international security.

1:18:36 > 1:18:39It is not his mental health itself that is of concern to the population

1:18:39 > 1:18:45and the public, but rather whether or not he is able to carry out his

1:18:45 > 1:18:53function. I have been advocating for a capacity evaluation, as well as a

1:18:53 > 1:18:57more in-depth neuropsychiatric evaluation. But apparently none of

1:18:57 > 1:19:01that will be happening today. None of that will be happening.

1:19:01 > 1:19:04Let's examine, let's discuss some of the points that I've made people,

1:19:04 > 1:19:08some people, question his health and mental state. Forgetting the words

1:19:08 > 1:19:12to the US national anthem at a football game on Monday. That is the

1:19:12 > 1:19:17allegation water people having seen that on social media, at times he

1:19:17 > 1:19:21was singing, at times he was not, at other times it was the wrong words.

1:19:21 > 1:19:26Some people are putting that down to mental health issues.I think the

1:19:26 > 1:19:32mental health issues, I mean, it is quite frankly ridiculous. The US, we

1:19:32 > 1:19:37have seen left-wing judicial activism where judges have said

1:19:37 > 1:19:42let's not look at what Donald Trump did, let's not look at whether it is

1:19:42 > 1:19:48legal or not, let's look at whether it is legal. Now we are seeing on

1:19:48 > 1:19:52university campuses we are seeing experts, we are seeing medical

1:19:52 > 1:19:57activists say Trump said this, how does this show mental impairment?

1:19:57 > 1:19:59Quite frankly, I think it is insulting to be bothered actually

1:19:59 > 1:20:04developmental disabilities and insulting to the profession.What

1:20:04 > 1:20:08would you put that down to? The fact that he did not single of the worst

1:20:08 > 1:20:13of the national anthem on Monday?I would put it down to the fact that

1:20:13 > 1:20:17he did not then all of the worst of the national anthem. I highly doubt

1:20:17 > 1:20:21Donald Trump wrote the words. He sang a few of the lines, not the

1:20:21 > 1:20:27whole thing. -- forgot the words. I do not think he forgot the words to

1:20:27 > 1:20:33the national anthem. Nobody was saying Obama's four times he has

1:20:33 > 1:20:38been slow to put a handlers had, does he have a mental impairment

1:20:38 > 1:20:44that made him forget? -- to put his hand on his heart.I myself am very

1:20:44 > 1:20:51concerned about a stigma, and the influence this kind of rhetoric will

1:20:51 > 1:20:56have on those who are suffering from mental illness. That is why would

1:20:56 > 1:21:02like to emphasise it is not about Mr Trump's personal mental health

1:21:02 > 1:21:10condition, but by now he has shown such a wide range of concerning

1:21:10 > 1:21:14signs. It is not just are not singing the correct words to the

1:21:14 > 1:21:24National Anthem. In the context of numerous

1:21:24 > 1:21:26numerous signs, psychological, cognitive, neurological, that we

1:21:26 > 1:21:32have observed in front of our eyes. If there are such concerning signs,

1:21:32 > 1:21:37it is incumbent on us to recommend an evaluation and for the public to

1:21:37 > 1:21:43demand a evaluation for somebody who is in charge of protecting the

1:21:43 > 1:21:48health and well-being and protection.Let's bring drew back

1:21:48 > 1:21:53in. I want to look ahead. If you look at the headlines today, there

1:21:53 > 1:21:58are reports that Donald Trump has used, shall we say, disparaging

1:21:58 > 1:22:03language about certain countries that immigrants come from. CNN are

1:22:03 > 1:22:07calling it a new rock bottom. It is almost daily, is it not, that we get

1:22:07 > 1:22:10some kind of controversy surrounding Donald Trump and his tweets? What do

1:22:10 > 1:22:16you see the rest of his presidency playing out like that?The

1:22:16 > 1:22:21controversy is about his truth about and off the record comments he made,

1:22:21 > 1:22:25but nobody wants to talk about the fact that in the United States,

1:22:25 > 1:22:30black and Hispanic unemployment rates are at an all-time low.

1:22:30 > 1:22:34Walmart has just announced that 2 million people are getting there are

1:22:34 > 1:22:44legal wage raised to -- by $2 an hour. People are Micro Focus. Trump

1:22:44 > 1:22:52golf that as he sees it. We know that from day one. -- hold it as he

1:22:52 > 1:22:55sees it. The rest of his presidency is going to go out with him getting

1:22:55 > 1:23:00results late week is going up in America.Thank you very much for

1:23:00 > 1:23:05joining us, both of you.

1:23:05 > 1:23:09An 18-year-old woman has died in hospital after contracting the flu

1:23:09 > 1:23:13virus. Bethany had been suffering from the virus at all before it

1:23:13 > 1:23:16developed into pneumonia. She was taken by air ambulance to hospital

1:23:16 > 1:23:20in Inverness, where she died one week ago. Her mother described her

1:23:20 > 1:23:23as the best daughter she could have ever wished for. The number of

1:23:23 > 1:23:29people contracting the flu virus has been on the rise. In England, around

1:23:29 > 1:23:325000 people were admitted to hospital with flu in the first week

1:23:32 > 1:23:38of January. So, how serious is this virus? Let's speak to a doctor, who

1:23:38 > 1:23:42joins us now. What are the real risks and what you can actually do

1:23:42 > 1:23:46to protect yourself? It seems everywhere you turn of the moment,

1:23:46 > 1:23:50people seem to be coughing, spluttering and not well, but

1:23:50 > 1:23:54clearly there are levels of this. How serious is this current

1:23:54 > 1:23:57outbreak?The current flu outbreak is very serious. We have seen this

1:23:57 > 1:24:03tragic case of Bethany, only 18, who died of pneumonia as a result of

1:24:03 > 1:24:07having the flu. As tragic as it is, it highlights a really important

1:24:07 > 1:24:12issue, which is that flu is not just a bad cold. Some people think that

1:24:12 > 1:24:15flu is. It is not, otherwise he would not have a vaccination problem

1:24:15 > 1:24:22about it. We would not have all this public health advice about it. It is

1:24:22 > 1:24:25a very serious and can be a fatal illness. We have had other deaths

1:24:25 > 1:24:29already this season.So, if people have not had a flu vaccination,

1:24:29 > 1:24:34should they think to go and get one or is it too late?It is definitely

1:24:34 > 1:24:40not too late. You can still have your vaccination is either in a high

1:24:40 > 1:24:46street pharmacist if you are not eligible or in an NHS pharmacy if

1:24:46 > 1:24:51you are. The under fives, elderly and pregnant women are more

1:24:51 > 1:24:56susceptible to this, serious illnesses like an ammonia, as a

1:24:56 > 1:25:00result of flu.So, before we talk about symptoms and what you should

1:25:00 > 1:25:06do if you get flu, what can you do now to protect yourself? Is this

1:25:06 > 1:25:10about handwashing and really simple things?Really simple things like

1:25:10 > 1:25:14hand hygiene. People think you can just get it from the aerosol spray,

1:25:14 > 1:25:20of people coughing on you. No, they can live on surfaces. Hand hygiene

1:25:20 > 1:25:25and surface hygiene. Put some clubs on when you're on the bus or on the

1:25:25 > 1:25:29Underground, so you're not holding the hand drills. -- puts on.

1:25:29 > 1:25:35Yourself isolated if you do have a fluke. You did not need to go to

1:25:35 > 1:25:42work. Making sure you have remedies at home. Paracetamol, ibuprofen and

1:25:42 > 1:25:49plenty of fluids.If you have a flu, you will not be able to get out of

1:25:49 > 1:25:55bed, so should you go and see your GP or just stay at home?Well, GPs

1:25:55 > 1:26:00do not have any treatment for flu. If you came to see me in my clinic,

1:26:00 > 1:26:03as some people did yesterday, I was saying to them that they need to be

1:26:03 > 1:26:07at home and drinking. You need to speak to a doctor, even if you are

1:26:07 > 1:26:12not in the vulnerable group. If you have any respiratory problems, if

1:26:12 > 1:26:15you're finding any difficulty breathing, if somebody is worried

1:26:15 > 1:26:20about you, if you are not passing water.Thank you for coming in and

1:26:20 > 1:26:24talking to us about that. Also coming up:

1:26:24 > 1:26:28We will get a new study that suggests that young people treated

1:26:28 > 1:26:31for first cancer have the same survival rates regardless of whether

1:26:31 > 1:26:37they have gene mutation.

1:26:39 > 1:26:42Now, Facebook has announced what it says is a major change to its news

1:26:42 > 1:26:46feed. The social media website will focus on interactions between family

1:26:46 > 1:26:52and friends, rather than media and business content. Also, in a

1:26:52 > 1:26:55separate development, the company has agreed to be compensation to a

1:26:55 > 1:26:58Northern Irish teenager after naked photographs of her were allegedly

1:26:58 > 1:27:02posted on the site. For more on both of these stories, we are joined by a

1:27:02 > 1:27:06reporter. I am confused by this. What is not going to be in our feed

1:27:06 > 1:27:11and what will be in our feet? It seems a bit Willie.

1:27:11 > 1:27:18It does. Mark Soderberg says this is the first of a series of changes

1:27:18 > 1:27:24that are going to come to this book and are -- the CEO. I do not know a

1:27:24 > 1:27:27few joined Facebook way back when it was just about sharing pictures and

1:27:27 > 1:27:31post with your friends and family. By all accounts, it sounds like a

1:27:31 > 1:27:35default going back to that. They are scaling back on a much news and

1:27:35 > 1:27:38other bits that you getting your feet and are going to, as he says,

1:27:38 > 1:27:45prioritise what you share with your friends and family, because he feels

1:27:45 > 1:27:48that actually personal social media sharing is more enhancing than

1:27:48 > 1:27:51getting random bits of news that other people have prioritised.

1:27:51 > 1:27:54They will not make money then, will they?

1:27:54 > 1:27:58This is the thing, Facebook made money from advertising and that is

1:27:58 > 1:28:04not changing as far as we know. Advertising still be there -- is

1:28:04 > 1:28:07still going to be a thing and there, limited,

1:28:07 > 1:28:13still going to be a thing and there, limited,, located -- their

1:28:13 > 1:28:16complicated algorithm will shoot at first that may interest you your

1:28:16 > 1:28:22way. However, they are doing this, mainly that people do not use the

1:28:22 > 1:28:26site of much in the early stages, he admitted that might be a problem,

1:28:26 > 1:28:30which might take a tiny head out of their $36 billion...

1:28:30 > 1:28:39They will probably hope! A really serious story about

1:28:39 > 1:28:41compensation being paid to a 14-year-old girl about nude pictures

1:28:41 > 1:28:48appearing on Facebook. Yes, between 2014 and 2016, she had

1:28:48 > 1:28:51naked pictures of herself posted on a so-called shame page on Facebook.

1:28:51 > 1:28:56She went to the police and by the time they got involved, ordered the

1:28:56 > 1:28:59investigation, the device which had the pictures had gone, so you cannot

1:28:59 > 1:29:03really prove who put the pictures up on the first place. She then took a

1:29:03 > 1:29:09case to the High Court and actually won an out-of-court settlement

1:29:09 > 1:29:13against Facebook, so we do not know exactly how much she got. For these

1:29:13 > 1:29:16pictures being up on this page. Our lawyers actually said that there

1:29:16 > 1:29:23could change the way that social media platforms like Facebook,

1:29:23 > 1:29:27Twitter, Instagram are responsible for indecent images and indecent

1:29:27 > 1:29:33posts. This is not possibly going to be the only case to come forward now

1:29:33 > 1:29:40that she has effectively won this out-of-court statement.

1:29:40 > 1:29:45Also coming up: The latest on Barry Purnell's trial.

1:29:45 > 1:29:48We'll look at a new study that suggests young women treated

1:29:52 > 1:29:55for breast cancer have the same survival rates regardless of whether

1:29:55 > 1:29:57they have the BRCA gene mutation.

1:29:57 > 1:30:00Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

1:30:00 > 1:30:01The headlines:

1:30:01 > 1:30:03A huge fire has ripped through Nottingham railway station.

1:30:03 > 1:30:05Nottinghamshire Fire and rescue described it as a 'large incident'

1:30:05 > 1:30:11with multiple fire engines at the scene.

1:30:11 > 1:30:14Firefighters spent much of the morning tackling the blaze and the

1:30:14 > 1:30:15station was evacuated.

1:30:15 > 1:30:19Trains are cancelled and the station will remain shut all day.

1:30:19 > 1:30:21Donald Trump has cancelled his planned visit to the UK next month.

1:30:21 > 1:30:24The US President tweeted that he had cancelled the planned visit

1:30:24 > 1:30:27as he didn't want to open the new American embassy in London -

1:30:27 > 1:30:30which he incorrectly stated had been commissioned by his predecessor,

1:30:30 > 1:30:38Barack Obama.

1:30:39 > 1:30:42A study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

1:30:42 > 1:30:50mastectomy does not increase the chances of survival in younger

1:30:50 > 1:30:52patients who have what's known as the BRCA gene.

1:30:52 > 1:30:54The researchers also found that women treated for first cancer had

1:30:54 > 1:30:57the same survival rates - regardless of whether or not

1:30:57 > 1:30:58they had the mutation.

1:30:58 > 1:31:00An 18-year-old from the Scottish highlands has died after

1:31:00 > 1:31:01contracting the flu virus.

1:31:01 > 1:31:04Bethany Walker was airlifted to hospital in Inverness

1:31:04 > 1:31:07from her home in Wester Ross, but her illness had developed

1:31:07 > 1:31:09into pneumonia and staff were unable to save her.

1:31:09 > 1:31:11Elsewhere, in England, there has been a sharp rise

1:31:11 > 1:31:14in the number of flu cases seen by GPs - up 78 per

1:31:14 > 1:31:15cent from last week.

1:31:15 > 1:31:18The BBC is said "deeply unimpressed" with an off-air chat in which two

1:31:18 > 1:31:21of its presenters joked about the pay gap between the sexes.

1:31:21 > 1:31:23That's according to a source at the corporation.

1:31:23 > 1:31:25BBC Radio 4 Today presenter John Humphrys and North America

1:31:25 > 1:31:28editor Jon Sopel were discussing Carrie Gracie, who had just quit her

1:31:28 > 1:31:30China Editor job over equal pay.

1:31:30 > 1:31:32In an exchange before Monday's show, it's reported they they joked

1:31:32 > 1:31:34about "handing over" pay to keep her in post.

1:31:34 > 1:31:36A BBC spokeswoman said the presenter regrets

1:31:36 > 1:31:44the "ill-advised" conversation.

1:31:46 > 1:31:48That's a summary of the latest BBC news.

1:31:48 > 1:31:51Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:31:51 > 1:31:55Billie Jean King has once again called for the Margaret Court arena

1:31:55 > 1:32:00in Melbourne to be renamed, that is after the 24 time grand slam winner

1:32:00 > 1:32:05made to Robert Trigg comments regarding lesbian and transgender

1:32:05 > 1:32:09people. Billie Jean King said she would not play on the Court if she

1:32:09 > 1:32:15was on tour. Heather Watson missed out on the first WTA final in her

1:32:15 > 1:32:19career in two years after she was beaten in the semifinal of the

1:32:19 > 1:32:25Hobart International, three sets the defeat. Theo Walcott looks set to be

1:32:25 > 1:32:30on his way out of Arsenal, Everton boss Sam Allardyce confirming the

1:32:30 > 1:32:34teams have entered negotiations over the 20 jewelled England

1:32:34 > 1:32:39international. That's all the sport for now, we will be back with more

1:32:39 > 1:32:44after 11.

1:32:44 > 1:32:46The trial of former football coach Barry Bennell continued yesterday.

1:32:46 > 1:32:49A court in Liverpool heard from an alleged victim who said

1:32:49 > 1:32:52he was abused in a car on the way to training and matches.

1:32:52 > 1:32:57Let's get more from our reporter Jim Reed.

1:32:57 > 1:33:02Bring us up to date.This is the trial of Barry Bennell also going by

1:33:02 > 1:33:06the name Richard Jones at this trial at Liverpool Crown Court. Yesterday

1:33:06 > 1:33:13the jury heard from Chris Unsworth, he gave evidence to say in the late

1:33:13 > 1:33:151970s he was a youth footballer in the Manchester area when he first

1:33:15 > 1:33:22came across Barry Bennell three he was told was a scout for Manchester

1:33:22 > 1:33:25city at the time, Mr Unsworth alleges he was abused by the ages of

1:33:25 > 1:33:35nine and ten and 14 and 15. He told the court he prick his parents were

1:33:35 > 1:33:42very busy and the trusted Mr

1:33:43 > 1:33:49he went on to say abuse occurred at the home of Barry Bennell near the

1:33:49 > 1:33:53Peak District and also in North Wales where Mr Bennell would take

1:33:53 > 1:33:58groups of boys. Mr Unsworth was asked why he did not tell anyone at

1:33:58 > 1:34:02the time and he said they would not believe it and that he would be

1:34:02 > 1:34:06jeopardising where he wants to go as a professional footballer. He did

1:34:06 > 1:34:11contact police back in November in 2016 after he saw another

1:34:11 > 1:34:15footballer, Andy Woodward, speaking out on this programme and he said

1:34:15 > 1:34:18after seeing that interview Mr Unsworth went forward and told

1:34:18 > 1:34:24police what he alleged occurred.And Mr Unsworth was cross-examined by

1:34:24 > 1:34:32the defence?That's right. Mr Unsworth was asked about discussing

1:34:32 > 1:34:36possible financial compensation with either a solicitor or other alleged

1:34:36 > 1:34:40victims and he denied that, saying it's not about compensation, it's

1:34:40 > 1:34:45about justice. Mr Unsworth said he had only spoken about the details of

1:34:45 > 1:34:48this case, or this abuse three times, on the Victoria Derbyshire

1:34:48 > 1:34:55programme, to the police and to the court yesterday. The court was ready

1:34:55 > 1:35:00transcript of the police interview Barry Bennell even bigger the 2017

1:35:00 > 1:35:03in which he denies abusing Mr Unsworth but admitted the boy stayed

1:35:03 > 1:35:09at his house and slept in his bed. Mr Bennell said Chris Unsworth was

1:35:09 > 1:35:13too young for him to be attracted to when they first met. He told

1:35:13 > 1:35:18officers he was abusing another boy at the time. He said I had a victim,

1:35:18 > 1:35:26I did not need two, three or four. Barry Bennell denies the charges,

1:35:26 > 1:35:29before the trial he had admitted seven further charges, the trial

1:35:29 > 1:35:34continues and is expected to last another seven weeks.Thank you for

1:35:34 > 1:35:38bringing us up to date, we will follow that on the programme.

1:35:38 > 1:35:41The conduct of the media is expected to be examined by the independent

1:35:41 > 1:35:44review into the response to the Manchester Arena bombing.

1:35:44 > 1:35:4722 people were killed when a bomb was set off after a pop concert

1:35:47 > 1:35:48at the venue in May.

1:35:48 > 1:35:50Several of the bereaved families have raised concerns

1:35:50 > 1:35:52about the reporting of the attack.

1:35:52 > 1:35:58Judith Moritz is in Manchester with the latest.

1:35:58 > 1:36:06What have we heard today?What we have today is a progress report

1:36:06 > 1:36:11which has come from the team which is reviewing the response to the

1:36:11 > 1:36:16Manchester Arena attack last May. It is a review being chaired by the

1:36:16 > 1:36:21former head of the civil service Bob Kerslake and the full report is due

1:36:21 > 1:36:27to be published by the end of March. Today the team behind it have

1:36:27 > 1:36:31explained a little bit more about work which they are now doing which

1:36:31 > 1:36:35wasn't originally part of the terms of reference when the review was set

1:36:35 > 1:36:38up. In particular as you say they are going to be examining the role

1:36:38 > 1:36:43of the media in responding to the attack. How the story was covered

1:36:43 > 1:36:49both by the mainstream media and also by those using social media,

1:36:49 > 1:36:55how that fed into the experience of those who were both directly

1:36:55 > 1:36:59affected and in particular how it affected the families, the bereaved

1:36:59 > 1:37:02and surviving people who were right in the eye of the storm and having

1:37:02 > 1:37:07to cope with terrible loss and pain alongside the publicity that went

1:37:07 > 1:37:13with it. Bob Kerslake said this morning it is something he will

1:37:13 > 1:37:18examine and it's partly because he's been hearing evidence from families

1:37:18 > 1:37:24which, they have been telling him they had a mixed experience. Plenty

1:37:24 > 1:37:27of positive experiences they had from the media but some families

1:37:27 > 1:37:33have also seen the flip side of that and we heard for example the family

1:37:33 > 1:37:39of Martin, one of those killed in the attack, they had been doorstep

1:37:39 > 1:37:45by some reporters before Martin had been identified as officially having

1:37:45 > 1:37:49died. It's an experience which has been exposed through this review and

1:37:49 > 1:37:58the Kerslake team will look further to see if they can learn anything.

1:37:58 > 1:38:02The other thing to tell you about is what the team are advising is that

1:38:02 > 1:38:09all of the organisation, or the public organisations have responded

1:38:09 > 1:38:14one way or another should shine up to a charter which was developed

1:38:14 > 1:38:18recently by the former Bishop of Liverpool James Jones who himself

1:38:18 > 1:38:22was looking at the experiences of the Hillsborough families, families

1:38:22 > 1:38:27bereaved in a very different set of circumstances almost 30 years ago.

1:38:27 > 1:38:35There is a charter he has created which urges organisations to put the

1:38:35 > 1:38:38enquiry team are suggesting that the way to go and that organisations

1:38:38 > 1:38:48sign up to that charter.Thank you for bringing us date with that.

1:38:48 > 1:38:51Still to come: She's just been announced the winner of BBC

1:38:51 > 1:38:53Music's Sound of 2018 - we'll be speaking to Norwegian

1:38:53 > 1:38:59singer Sigrid shortly.

1:38:59 > 1:39:01A study of women with breast cancer suggests that having a double

1:39:01 > 1:39:04mastectomy does not increase the chances of survival in younger

1:39:04 > 1:39:09patients who have what's known as the BRCA gene.

1:39:09 > 1:39:11The researchers also found that women treated for breast cancer

1:39:11 > 1:39:13had the same survival rates

1:39:13 > 1:39:21regardless of whether or not they had the mutation.

1:39:24 > 1:39:31But it did find that there are the same survival

1:39:33 > 1:39:36Let's talk to the study's author, Professor Diana Eccles,

1:39:36 > 1:39:37of the University of Southampton,

1:39:37 > 1:39:38Laura Pearson who had a double mastectomy,

1:39:38 > 1:39:41and Dany Bell is a specialist advisor for Treatment and Recovery

1:39:41 > 1:39:43at Macmillan Cancer Support.

1:39:43 > 1:39:49thank you all for joining us. Professor first of all the pros and

1:39:49 > 1:39:56cons as is often the case in the studies, give us the details?The

1:39:56 > 1:39:59first thing to absolutely stress is that all of the patients in this

1:39:59 > 1:40:04study came along with a diagnosis of breast cancer. These were not people

1:40:04 > 1:40:09who did not have cancer but knew they were at high risk and were

1:40:09 > 1:40:14electing bilateral mastectomy. These are very different circumstances.

1:40:14 > 1:40:19Our study was looking at young women between 18-40 who had developed

1:40:19 > 1:40:22breast cancer, usually finding a lump so they were not being

1:40:22 > 1:40:28screened. Most of them did not know they were BRCA gene carriers so we

1:40:28 > 1:40:33followed them for a long period of time, looking at ladies diagnosed

1:40:33 > 1:40:37between 2000 and 2008 and following their medical records ever since. We

1:40:37 > 1:40:42have finally been able to work out who does and who does not carry the

1:40:42 > 1:40:47BRCA gene mutation. The findings of the study are that 12% of those

1:40:47 > 1:40:51younger women with breast cancer had a BRCA gene mutation and the outcome

1:40:51 > 1:40:55from the conventional breast-cancer treatment for those people was no

1:40:55 > 1:41:00different to those who did not have the BRCA gene mutation when she took

1:41:00 > 1:41:06all the best character characteristics into account. The

1:41:06 > 1:41:11treatment was based on their BRCA, based on their breast-cancer status

1:41:11 > 1:41:16rather than the BRCA status.I want to bring in Laura, who is that on

1:41:16 > 1:41:25your knee?This isINAUDIBLE . This is Joseph. And who else is

1:41:25 > 1:41:32there with you?This is elderly.And is that someone else in the

1:41:32 > 1:41:39background? Your mum! It is lovely to see you, I know you had a double

1:41:39 > 1:41:45mastectomy, is that because you had the BRCA gene?I had breast cancer

1:41:45 > 1:41:50in April, I was diagnosed in April 20 16. After I had finished my

1:41:50 > 1:41:57treatment I had a double mastectomy because I had the BRCA two gene.So

1:41:57 > 1:42:01when you hear this report one hand it is great news that survival rates

1:42:01 > 1:42:05are the same for women with this gene but so many people will

1:42:05 > 1:42:09remember Angelina Jolie saying she was going to have this double

1:42:09 > 1:42:12mastectomy to save her life. How are you feeling today hearing this

1:42:12 > 1:42:19report?I mean... It's difficult to hear that what I have had done might

1:42:19 > 1:42:23not have been necessary because I have been left with the

1:42:23 > 1:42:26reconstruction I'm not happy with and I had my ovaries removed because

1:42:26 > 1:42:32of the high risk of ovarian cancer, I am 37 and going through menopause.

1:42:32 > 1:42:38I have got two young children. It's a bit galling to hear it might not

1:42:38 > 1:42:42help me at all. But at the same time, with the information I was

1:42:42 > 1:42:46given at the time I did everything I could to increase my chances of

1:42:46 > 1:42:51being around for my children.That is the thing, I guess information is

1:42:51 > 1:42:57increasing all the time. It's difficult isn't it for women to make

1:42:57 > 1:43:01that decision when you are presumably overwhelmed with

1:43:01 > 1:43:06information and try to come to terms with what you're being told.

1:43:06 > 1:43:10Absolutely and that was a good point made about the information at the

1:43:10 > 1:43:15time. We have new insight all the time from research which helps aid

1:43:15 > 1:43:18decision-making around treatments and it's not saying that a double

1:43:18 > 1:43:23mastectomy is not an option and it's also people want to live 20, 30, 40

1:43:23 > 1:43:29years. The key thing is in terms of longer term survival they are not

1:43:29 > 1:43:34saying a double mastectomy is not something people should consider,

1:43:34 > 1:43:37what it is saying is that people have more time to think about the

1:43:37 > 1:43:41options and there is more insight and therefore there is more

1:43:41 > 1:43:45information which can be discussed at a time when they are making a

1:43:45 > 1:43:49very difficult decision about their future and treatment options.

1:43:49 > 1:43:54Professor, pick up on that, this was just looking at those ten years so

1:43:54 > 1:43:58is there a chance that having a double mastectomy after the ten

1:43:58 > 1:44:04years would benefit health or you don't know?There is a very good

1:44:04 > 1:44:08chance that is the case and there is a very good rationale for having

1:44:08 > 1:44:12your ovaries removed and fallopian tubes because that is a risk we

1:44:12 > 1:44:19cannot screen for. So this study is not saying that that is the

1:44:19 > 1:44:22incorrect decision, it is just saying that women have more time to

1:44:22 > 1:44:27think about it, it doesn't have to be wrapped up with the primary

1:44:27 > 1:44:32cancer treatments. For BRCA two carrier is the risk is later and we

1:44:32 > 1:44:35did not see any ovarian cancers in the patients we were following up

1:44:35 > 1:44:40who were all diagnosed under 40 who had BRCA two gene variants but he

1:44:40 > 1:44:52did in BRCA one.

1:44:53 > 1:44:59Did you feel overwhelmed and rushed into making any of your decisions?

1:44:59 > 1:45:04Mol-mac, not at all. I actually was told, for the ovaries, to wait in

1:45:04 > 1:45:08case I wanted to have more children. They said I could wait until I was

1:45:08 > 1:45:12in my 40s, but I knew that I only wanted two children so it was me

1:45:12 > 1:45:16that was for that to happen as soon as possible. And the double

1:45:16 > 1:45:19mastectomy, I think my oncologist was keen from it to happen but I did

1:45:19 > 1:45:25not feel rushed.Thank you all for speaking to us and, Laura, well done

1:45:25 > 1:45:29for such a beautifully behaved children, and to Mum in the

1:45:29 > 1:45:36background! Now, the Queen is sharing memories

1:45:36 > 1:45:39of her coronation and describes what it is like to work her imperial

1:45:39 > 1:45:45state crime. Here, she tells royal commentator whilst you cannot look

1:45:45 > 1:45:50down whilst you're wearing it. -- why you cannot look down. The

1:45:50 > 1:45:54most important items used in the Coronation Andy Morgan's two crones.

1:45:54 > 1:46:02If the Queen has only worn at Saint Edward's called crown once, she is

1:46:02 > 1:46:07much more familiar with this, the diamond encrusted imperial state

1:46:07 > 1:46:11crime. She worked at the end of her coronation and for a state openings

1:46:11 > 1:46:18of Parliament since. -- she wore it. It is much smaller, is it not? It

1:46:18 > 1:46:23was the same height. You know, it would have been up to about there.

1:46:23 > 1:46:37When my father wore it.It was huge then?Yes, very unwieldy.It is

1:46:37 > 1:46:44difficult to always remember that diamonds are stones, so very heavy!

1:46:44 > 1:46:48Yes, fortunately my father and I have about the same sort of shaped

1:46:48 > 1:46:53head. But once you put it on, it stays. I mean, it just remains

1:46:53 > 1:46:58itself.You have to keep your head very still.Yes, and you cannot look

1:46:58 > 1:47:03down to read the speech, you have to take the speech up, because if you

1:47:03 > 1:47:09did, your neck would break or it would fall off. So, there are some

1:47:09 > 1:47:12disadvantages to grounds, but otherwise, they are quite important

1:47:12 > 1:47:20things.And the Coronation will be on BBC One at 8pm on Sunday evening.

1:47:20 > 1:47:23Lots of you have been getting in touch with us about the interview we

1:47:23 > 1:47:29did was clear poorly. She was the mother, a working mother, and then a

1:47:29 > 1:47:32stay at home mother, and she found her drinking was getting out of

1:47:32 > 1:47:36hand. She was drinking up to ten bottles of wine a week, hiding from

1:47:36 > 1:47:40her husband. She tried to give up drinking but in the end, she wanted

1:47:40 > 1:47:44to drink moderately but said that she needed to stop. You have been

1:47:44 > 1:47:48getting in touch with your experiences. Barbara e-mails. The

1:47:48 > 1:47:51lady on your shoulders well to quit but I used to drink a bottle of wine

1:47:51 > 1:47:55before I could even get out of bed. I used to work in pubs and hotels

1:47:55 > 1:48:00and it was just too easy to drink. This was over at least 30 years and

1:48:00 > 1:48:04I ended up in hospital twice. I nearly lost my family, but starting

1:48:04 > 1:48:08a blog was furthest from my mind. I was in a really bad state but I went

1:48:08 > 1:48:12cold turkey and it nearly killed me. I finally got better and I've not

1:48:12 > 1:48:17touched any alcohol for about 17 years. Then we have also had a Diane

1:48:17 > 1:48:21on Twitter thing but many of us do not think we have a problem because

1:48:21 > 1:48:26that is one that we choose to drink rather than vodka or gin. Wine is

1:48:26 > 1:48:28somehow perceived differently from spirits.

1:48:28 > 1:48:35Do keep coming. -- do keep those bolts coming.

1:48:35 > 1:48:38The winner of BBC Sound of 2018 has just been announced

1:48:38 > 1:48:40and in a moment we'll be speaking exclusively to them.

1:48:40 > 1:48:43The awards honour the artists who are making waves on the music

1:48:43 > 1:48:45scene and tipped as the ones to watch this year

1:48:45 > 1:48:47and, what's more, they're voted for by their peers.

1:48:47 > 1:48:51We'll reveal the winner in just a moment, but for now let's take

1:48:51 > 1:48:52a look at some of the previous winners.

1:48:52 > 1:48:57It's a pretty impressive pedigree.

1:48:57 > 1:49:03# But I just keep on chasing pavements

1:49:03 > 1:49:12# Should I just keep on chasing pavements?

1:49:12 > 1:49:19pavements? # # And everybody knows. #

1:49:21 > 1:49:28# Do it like a brother, do it like a dude. #

1:49:28 > 1:49:43# Do it for the love. # # These streets, these streets. #

1:49:43 > 1:49:46Well, joining me now in the studio is this year's winner, Sigrid.

1:49:46 > 1:49:54We're also speaking to BBC Music Reporter Mark Savage.

1:49:54 > 1:50:00Congratulations!Thank you.It must be pretty exciting when you look at

1:50:00 > 1:50:05our Dell, Sam Smith, the list goes on and on, people who have one

1:50:05 > 1:50:13before, to be in that kind of company?It is absolutely amazing.

1:50:13 > 1:50:17Adele is one of my biggest inspirations, rolling in the deep is

1:50:17 > 1:50:21one of my biggest inspirations in pop music. I cannot see anything

1:50:21 > 1:50:30else.You are quite young.21.If people have not heard your music,

1:50:30 > 1:50:34let's listen to Strangers.

1:50:34 > 1:50:42# Just like in the movies # It starts to rain and we...

1:50:42 > 1:50:53# We are the broken beauties # Blindfolding

1:50:53 > 1:51:01# When the curtain drops # Are touch is just a touch

1:51:01 > 1:51:07# Not late in the movies # Are a story is after the end

1:51:07 > 1:51:14# Like strangers # Perfect pretenders

1:51:14 > 1:51:19# We are falling head over heels for something that isn't real

1:51:19 > 1:51:23# It could never be as # Just you and I

1:51:23 > 1:51:30# Strangers # Perfect pretenders

1:51:30 > 1:51:34# And we are falling head over heels for something that isn't real

1:51:34 > 1:51:42# It can never be as... # 's you were saying it was great fun to

1:51:42 > 1:51:46shoot that.

1:51:46 > 1:51:51Mark was seeing was a challenging to do that single shot?There was a

1:51:51 > 1:51:57couple of shots.I was listening to do, don't kill my vibe, and the

1:51:57 > 1:52:02clarity and crispness in your voice, it is very beautiful and unique.

1:52:02 > 1:52:07Thank you, I appreciate it.To people say that what? You have a

1:52:07 > 1:52:13very unique sound.Yes, quite a bit, but I had a lovely vocal coach to my

1:52:13 > 1:52:17junior high and high school years, and she just knew that we needed to

1:52:17 > 1:52:22keep that arrived in me. She did not want to make me sound anything else.

1:52:22 > 1:52:26It has been a very organic process. We will talk to Mark in a minute but

1:52:26 > 1:52:31I want to talk about Don't Kill My Vibe because there is an empowering

1:52:31 > 1:52:36story behind those lyrics?Yes, so I was any writing session with two

1:52:36 > 1:52:39older men and I felt that I was being patronised. It was just a

1:52:39 > 1:52:44general feeling of not being welcome. I thought this is not how

1:52:44 > 1:52:48it should be and I was quite mad at myself for not speaking up, because

1:52:48 > 1:52:53I thought I was the type of person to do that. And I did not, but later

1:52:53 > 1:52:59on, a couple of months later, I was only session with Martin Shirley, a

1:52:59 > 1:53:03lovely writer from Norway, and we wrote about this previous session.

1:53:03 > 1:53:09It is angry but assertive, that song. Would you agree with that?

1:53:09 > 1:53:12Yes, I think the interesting thing about lyrics in particular is that

1:53:12 > 1:53:17they are not the standard pop fire. There is another song about The

1:53:17 > 1:53:20Friends about people in school, or your life about people who are

1:53:20 > 1:53:252-faced. There is Dynamite, where work is taking you away from the

1:53:25 > 1:53:32person you want to be with. It is an interesting, conversational, unusual

1:53:32 > 1:53:35way and that is one of the reasons why she has won this award.And

1:53:35 > 1:53:37you're been incredibly modest, because I wanted to put into

1:53:37 > 1:53:42context, Mark, the significance of winning this award.It is huge

1:53:42 > 1:53:45because one of the most difficult things for a new artist is to break

1:53:45 > 1:53:49through and get hurt. You saw it last year, how energy and took over

1:53:49 > 1:53:54all of streaming. He was in the charts every week, he had 16 songs

1:53:54 > 1:53:57in the top 20. For somebody who is not known to cut through that kind

1:53:57 > 1:54:01of noise is really difficult and this list has a great track record.

1:54:01 > 1:54:08Adele, Lady Gaga, it shearing, and to get a platform, to get a bit of

1:54:08 > 1:54:12promotion, for people to know who you are right at the start of your

1:54:12 > 1:54:17career is massively important.Is it important that this was chosen by

1:54:17 > 1:54:21peers?Yes, well, it is a huge honour. It is quite hard to believe

1:54:21 > 1:54:27that it has actually happened, since I am from Norway. I come from a

1:54:27 > 1:54:30small town in Norway, 50,000 inhabitants, I never thought my

1:54:30 > 1:54:34music would take me to the studio, sitting here and announcing the

1:54:34 > 1:54:40winner of this year. I can just say a huge thank you to 19, they have

1:54:40 > 1:54:44fought so hard for this.So, talk to us about what you have been doing

1:54:44 > 1:54:49over the last year and what your plans are for the next year. I am

1:54:49 > 1:54:52guessing things are going to change! It is quite a packed schedule.Tell

1:54:52 > 1:55:01us about last year.We have been doing lots of festivals.

1:55:01 > 1:55:07Glastonbury, Denmark was cool. We are doing Coachella in April, in US.

1:55:07 > 1:55:12Last year, I was also part of the Apple music campaign. We did James

1:55:12 > 1:55:21Corden.A lot of stuff happened. The television show? Yes. So, exposure

1:55:21 > 1:55:25more and more?Yes, for next year is all about going on tour. I am going

1:55:25 > 1:55:30to Australia for the first time in my life. Working on new music. It is

1:55:30 > 1:55:35going to be a fine year.Do you think things are going to change? I

1:55:35 > 1:55:40am so impressed by how down-to-earth viewer. Most people, I have met

1:55:40 > 1:55:43people in the music industry before, not everybody is quite so down to

1:55:43 > 1:55:48earth.Yes, and I have met Sigrid a couple of times over the past couple

1:55:48 > 1:55:52of year, we followed you around when you played in Brighton, and then at

1:55:52 > 1:56:00Glastonbury, you have not changed a bit!Why?You see people who are

1:56:00 > 1:56:04very humble at the beginning who started not to be.It is a special

1:56:04 > 1:56:08industry and I can understand, with the amount of pressure and exposure,

1:56:08 > 1:56:13that it can be difficult, but I do not know, I am myself and hang-out

1:56:13 > 1:56:17with my family and best friends and my band are my best friends. I am so

1:56:17 > 1:56:23lucky to have them on here with me. It is great. What is Sigrid's you're

1:56:23 > 1:56:28going to be like? You know from watching this.Honestly, I think she

1:56:28 > 1:56:34is going to be huge. There is a quirkiness and humour to her music

1:56:34 > 1:56:37that is quite unusual for pop. It sounds different to the other stuff

1:56:37 > 1:56:42that is out there at the minute. Every song is just packed with hook

1:56:42 > 1:56:46after the hook. I think you are going to go a long way.And you

1:56:46 > 1:56:51talked a little bit about how hard it is for artists, unknown artists,

1:56:51 > 1:56:55or not so well-known artists, to break through. Clearly, this is an

1:56:55 > 1:56:59opportunity for you, but how many other opportunities either?It is

1:56:59 > 1:57:04important for the BBC is doing. Absolutely. Artists at the beginning

1:57:04 > 1:57:08of their career, there is something called BBC And tradition, where

1:57:08 > 1:57:12artists can upload songs to get played on the radio, and there are

1:57:12 > 1:57:1716 people on the long list and almost all of them had come up