0:00:08 > 0:00:10Hello it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,
0:00:10 > 0:00:13welcome to the programme.
0:00:13 > 0:00:18Tens of thousands of nurses are leaving the NHS in England every
0:00:18 > 0:00:19year, piling pressure on over-stretched wards
0:00:19 > 0:00:20and community services.
0:00:20 > 0:00:24And the number leaving is greater than the number of nurses training.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28At the moment we are struggling because now nurses have
0:00:28 > 0:00:33lost their bursary it's a struggle to get them in.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36When you've got to pay £9000 and also have the privilege
0:00:36 > 0:00:38of working nights and shifts, that's really difficult.
0:00:38 > 0:00:42We'll be live at Birmingham Children's Hospital.
0:00:42 > 0:00:46As police release more details about the 13 siblings held
0:00:46 > 0:00:49captive in California, we'll speak to people with personal
0:00:49 > 0:00:54experience of being kidnapped.
0:00:54 > 0:00:56And held captive.
0:00:56 > 0:00:58Also this morning - would you be more productive
0:00:58 > 0:01:01if you worked less?
0:01:01 > 0:01:02We meet the UK companies who say business is booming since they gave
0:01:02 > 0:01:03staff more time off.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06Workers in Germany can stop working on Thursday and yet
0:01:06 > 0:01:08still produce more than we do.
0:01:08 > 0:01:11So therefore greater and longer working hours doesn't means
0:01:11 > 0:01:13So therefore greater and longer working hours doesn't mean
0:01:13 > 0:01:15we are more productive, especially when it negatively
0:01:15 > 0:01:19impacts our health and our ability to do our job.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22We'll hear from companies pioneering new approaches to improve
0:01:22 > 0:01:29people's work-life balance.
0:01:32 > 0:01:38Hello.
0:01:38 > 0:01:43Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11:00am this morning.
0:01:43 > 0:01:47Clearly this morning we want to know about your work-life balance.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Do you, have you, worked crazy hours and done something about that?
0:01:50 > 0:01:55Is it worth it?
0:01:56 > 0:01:59If you are a boss, how do you work with your staff?
0:01:59 > 0:02:01Have you been able to come up with a solution.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03Use the hashtag VictoriaLive, send me an email
0:02:03 > 0:02:08victoria@bbc.co.uk or there's Facebook too.
0:02:08 > 0:02:11Our top story today, more nurses left the NHS in England
0:02:11 > 0:02:13last year than joined.
0:02:13 > 0:02:20The statistics - given exclusively to the BBC -
0:02:20 > 0:02:24reveal that more than 33,000 gave up jobs with the service -
0:02:24 > 0:02:25that's 3000 more than signed up.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28The Royal College of Nursing says more must be done to support
0:02:28 > 0:02:30younger nurses at the start of their careers.
0:02:30 > 0:02:31Here's our health correspondent, Dominic Hughes.
0:02:31 > 0:02:33Nursing is a profession under pressure.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36Now a new analysis of nurses working in the NHS in England shows
0:02:36 > 0:02:38a worrying number are choosing to leave the profession.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40Last year, more than 33,000 nurses walked away
0:02:40 > 0:02:43from their health service jobs.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46That's a 20% rise compared with four years ago and those leaving
0:02:46 > 0:02:47outnumber those joining.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49One in four of those leaving are relatively
0:02:49 > 0:02:50young, under 30.
0:02:50 > 0:02:55This has potentially serious implications
0:02:55 > 0:02:57for a sustainable nursing profession.
0:02:57 > 0:03:05Unless we can improve the number of nurses there to support
0:03:06 > 0:03:10the new ones coming in, it becomes a continuous vicious cycle
0:03:10 > 0:03:13where people will not want to stay because they have not got
0:03:13 > 0:03:14the support within the workplace.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17Ministers in England say more nurses are working in the NHS today
0:03:17 > 0:03:20than 2010 and they have launched a programme to help organisations
0:03:20 > 0:03:22keep hold of experienced and highly skilled staff but retaining nurses
0:03:22 > 0:03:26is a problem across the UK and the pressures of a tough winter
0:03:26 > 0:03:28on an already stretched health service will not help.
0:03:28 > 0:03:31Dominic Hughes, BBC News.
0:03:31 > 0:03:33And we can speak now to Dominic, who's at
0:03:33 > 0:03:35Birmingham Children's hospital.
0:03:35 > 0:03:43Is this a problem right across the UK?It is. We know from the latest
0:03:43 > 0:03:48statistics we have from Northern Ireland and Scotland, that the
0:03:48 > 0:03:53number of those leaving is rising, so more than 7% of the nursing
0:03:53 > 0:03:58workforce left in both Northern Ireland and Scotland. But still
0:03:58 > 0:04:01there, joiners outnumbered those leaving. They are still in positive
0:04:01 > 0:04:06territory. In Wales, a Freedom of information request revealed the
0:04:06 > 0:04:10reverse was true with more people leaving the profession and joining.
0:04:10 > 0:04:14A similar picture to England. The Department of Health does say that
0:04:14 > 0:04:18apart from the claim that there are more nurses working on hospital
0:04:18 > 0:04:24wards today than in 2010, that is true. But if you look across the
0:04:24 > 0:04:26piece, mental health services and community services, for example,
0:04:26 > 0:04:34there is an issue there. They have created an extra 5000 nursing places
0:04:34 > 0:04:38for trainee nurses, an increase of 25% on last it, but those nurses
0:04:38 > 0:04:44will take three years to qualify. And the NHS is supporting
0:04:44 > 0:04:48organisations to try to hang onto these highly qualified and skilled
0:04:48 > 0:04:54staff. But it's clearly an issue across the UK.We will hear more
0:04:54 > 0:04:59from Dominik and nurses at Birmingham children's Hospital in
0:04:59 > 0:05:05around 15 minutes time. If you are a nurse considering leaving the
0:05:05 > 0:05:09profession or have recently left, let me know why this morning. To the
0:05:09 > 0:05:14rest of this morning's news now.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17Documents seen by the BBC show the services and construction giant,
0:05:17 > 0:05:22Carillion, was left with just £29 million in cash when it
0:05:22 > 0:05:24collapsed on Monday - but owed more than £1.3 billion
0:05:24 > 0:05:26to its banks.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29The figures are from a witness statement to the insolvency court
0:05:29 > 0:05:31made by the company's interim chief executive.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33The statement also details how repeated efforts
0:05:33 > 0:05:37to save the firm failed.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39The revelations will worry businesses owed money by Carillion,
0:05:39 > 0:05:43which is one of the biggest public sector contractors in the UK.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46Snow and ice are causing serious problems on roads
0:05:46 > 0:05:50across Scotland, Northern Ireland and Northern England,
0:05:50 > 0:05:54with drivers stranded in long queues on the M74 motorway.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56Mountain rescue teams are helping trapped motorists,
0:05:56 > 0:06:00and people in Dumfries and Galloway are being advised not to drive.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Snow has also caused problems in Northern Ireland,
0:06:02 > 0:06:04forcing schools to close and disrupting public transport.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08Ian Palmer reports.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Rescuing the drivers trapped in their cars overnight
0:06:10 > 0:06:17on the main motorway between England and Scotland.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19Heavy snow meant treacherous conditions for the emergency
0:06:19 > 0:06:20services on the M74.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22The icy weather kept some motorists in freezing cars
0:06:22 > 0:06:25for more than eight hours.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27Very little has been happening, I'm afraid.
0:06:27 > 0:06:29We've barely moved.
0:06:29 > 0:06:33I'm not that far away from Motherwell still.
0:06:33 > 0:06:36In total, very little movement.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39The M74 runs from Gretna Green to Glasgow.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42The main problems were from Junction 12 to 15 and the wild
0:06:42 > 0:06:50weather is not going away.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53The Met Office has issued a number of warnings for:
0:06:58 > 0:07:03On the Isle of Skye, the main road was closed for several
0:07:03 > 0:07:05hours in both directions by a jackknifed lorry.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Two buses carrying pupils were forced to return
0:07:07 > 0:07:12to school for the night.
0:07:12 > 0:07:16We have had people stuck for a good six or eight hours in their
0:07:16 > 0:07:21vehicles. Quite a long time. We have assisted at least one or two
0:07:21 > 0:07:25vehicles that had completely run out of fuel and managed to get fuel back
0:07:25 > 0:07:28to them, but mostly it has been just checking the welfare of people in
0:07:28 > 0:07:35their cars.
0:07:35 > 0:07:40their cars.Dozens of schools were closed yesterday in Scotland are
0:07:40 > 0:07:45affecting thousands of children.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48But it wasn't all doom and gloom.
0:07:48 > 0:07:54In Selkirk, the scene was worthy of a seasonal postcard with people
0:07:54 > 0:07:56living on higher ground witnessing the heaviest snowfall.
0:07:56 > 0:07:58In Dumfries, snowploughs worked around the clock
0:07:58 > 0:07:59to keep motorists moving.
0:07:59 > 0:08:00This was the picture in Glasgow.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03And in Edinburgh, only the most determined ventured out in our cars.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06Gritters have been out through the night to avoid a repeat
0:08:06 > 0:08:08of the problems for drivers on the M74 but Police Scotland
0:08:08 > 0:08:10say if you can avoid travelling this morning,
0:08:10 > 0:08:11you should do so.
0:08:11 > 0:08:19Ian Palmer, BBC News.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23A Conservative MP has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012
0:08:23 > 0:08:25suggesting that unemployed people on benefits should have vasectomies
0:08:25 > 0:08:27if they couldn't afford to have more children.
0:08:27 > 0:08:29Ben Bradley, who's 28, was made Conservative vice chairman
0:08:29 > 0:08:37for youth in Theresa May's reshuffle last week.
0:08:40 > 0:08:44The High Court is to hear a legal challenge against the Home Office,
0:08:44 > 0:08:46brought on behalf of women who were once involved in prostitution.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48They'll argue it's unlawful for details of their convictions
0:08:48 > 0:08:51for soliciting to be stored and disclosed to potential
0:08:51 > 0:08:52future employers.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55Police in California have praised the bravery of the 17-year-old girl
0:08:55 > 0:08:57who escaped from the home where she and her 12 siblings
0:08:57 > 0:09:00were allegedly being held captive by their parents.
0:09:00 > 0:09:02David and Louise Turpin - whose children range
0:09:02 > 0:09:05in age from 2 to 29 - are due to appear in court
0:09:05 > 0:09:10later this week, charged with torture and child endangerment.
0:09:10 > 0:09:15Our North America Correspondent, James Cook, reports.
0:09:15 > 0:09:20In public, they looked like a big, happy family, devoutly Christian.
0:09:20 > 0:09:26Renewing their wedding vows in Las Vegas, David and Louise Turpin
0:09:26 > 0:09:29played the part of proud parents. But in private, say police, the
0:09:29 > 0:09:33family had a dark secret. Before dawn on Sunday, 17-year-old girl
0:09:33 > 0:09:39escaped through from the south through a window. She had taken a
0:09:39 > 0:09:43deactivated mobile phone and used it to call the police. Inside, officers
0:09:43 > 0:09:48found her 12 brothers and sisters, dirty and malnourished. Three were
0:09:48 > 0:09:52shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks. The home was dark and
0:09:52 > 0:09:57foul smelling. Neighbours said the Turpins were originally from West
0:09:57 > 0:10:01Virginia. The father was an engineer on a good salary but had twice
0:10:01 > 0:10:04declared bankruptcy. Police say the siblings were so small that they
0:10:04 > 0:10:09were shocked to discover seven were adults, the eldest 29. They are now
0:10:09 > 0:10:13being treated in hospital.I can tell you they are very friendly.
0:10:13 > 0:10:18They are very cooperative. And I believe they are hopeful life will
0:10:18 > 0:10:23get better for them.As for David and Louise Turpin, they are now
0:10:23 > 0:10:28under arrest charged with torture and child endangerment. Doctors say
0:10:28 > 0:10:33they are determined to keep all 13 siblings out of the media spotlight.
0:10:33 > 0:10:38They are focused on feeding them to try to improve their physical
0:10:38 > 0:10:40condition, and on offering them psychological help as they try to
0:10:40 > 0:10:44come to terms with their ordeal inside this home will stop James
0:10:44 > 0:10:49Cook,
0:10:49 > 0:10:52Cook, BBC News, Perris in California.
0:10:52 > 0:10:54Hundreds of the most vulnerable victims of crime
0:10:54 > 0:10:56are being prevented from testifying against their attackers,
0:10:56 > 0:10:59because of a shortage of experts to help them give evidence.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01That's according to a report from the victims' commissioner,
0:11:01 > 0:11:02Baroness Newlove.
0:11:02 > 0:11:04She's calling for extra support and funding for registered
0:11:04 > 0:11:07intermediaries who give a voice in court to people who have
0:11:07 > 0:11:11problems communicating.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14One in eight people are working in excess of 48 hours per work,
0:11:14 > 0:11:16according to analysis given exclusively to this
0:11:16 > 0:11:17programme by the TUC.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20The EU working time directive sets a limit of 48 hours work a week,
0:11:20 > 0:11:23although some jobs require staff to sign an exemption.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26The TUC says working long hours can have a severe impact
0:11:26 > 0:11:28on people's health.
0:11:28 > 0:11:35And stay with us for a special report on companies which are trying
0:11:35 > 0:11:37out new approaches to improve the work-life balance
0:11:37 > 0:11:40for their staff.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43The Bayeux Tapestry is set to be displayed in Britain for the first
0:11:43 > 0:11:45time since it was made in the 11th century.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48The French President Emmanuel Macron is due to confirm the loan
0:11:48 > 0:11:50when he meets Theresa May at Sandhurst tomorrow.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52It's not clear where or when the artwork will be displayed,
0:11:52 > 0:11:56and tests will need to be carried out first to ensure it can be
0:11:56 > 0:11:57moved without damage.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.
0:12:03 > 0:12:08A message from a nurse who doesn't give their name. I'm a registered
0:12:08 > 0:12:12nurse who works in Wales. I left after becoming disillusioned and
0:12:12 > 0:12:15immoral liars. Increasing workloads because of staff shortages and
0:12:15 > 0:12:20underfunding played a big part in my decision. I felt the environment I
0:12:20 > 0:12:23worked in was unsafe because of a lack of experienced nurses, and I
0:12:23 > 0:12:27was unable to continue to give the high standards of care I had
0:12:27 > 0:12:31previously provided. If you are a nurse considering leaving or has
0:12:31 > 0:12:34recently left the profession, tell us why.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -
0:12:37 > 0:12:40use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged
0:12:40 > 0:12:41at the standard network rate.
0:12:41 > 0:12:42There is also Facebook and e-mails.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Let's get some sport with Hugh.
0:12:44 > 0:12:50An historic moment in English football last night
0:12:50 > 0:12:52football last night if you are a quiz fan, pay attention.
0:12:52 > 0:12:59Who scored the first goal in English football history to be awarded by
0:12:59 > 0:13:05VAR, the new video assistant referee. The answer is Leicester
0:13:05 > 0:13:11City's Kelechi Iheanacho. He scored both goals in their 2- 0/3-round
0:13:11 > 0:13:16replay win over League 1 side Fleetwood town last night. His
0:13:16 > 0:13:20second goal provided the slice of history. Originally ruled out for
0:13:20 > 0:13:23offside after Riyad Mahrez had played him in. The video assistant
0:13:23 > 0:13:29referee thought it was worth checking on. It was the right
0:13:29 > 0:13:31choice, the decision rightly overturned, and it helped Leicester
0:13:31 > 0:13:35City moving to the fourth round. Historic moment at the King Power
0:13:35 > 0:13:40Stadium. Joined by another Premier League side, West Ham United, who
0:13:40 > 0:13:45needed 120 minutes to get past Shrewsbury town of League 1. Reece
0:13:45 > 0:13:51Burke scoring his first West Ham goal.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56No real shocks in terms of results - Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday
0:13:56 > 0:14:02and Reading from the Championship all winners last night as well...
0:14:02 > 0:14:10The tennis, Australian open in Melbourne. What's the latest there?
0:14:12 > 0:14:15Well I'm sure there's a little bit of disappointment not to see
0:14:15 > 0:14:18Andy Murray at the Australian Open but so far British number 2
0:14:18 > 0:14:20Kyle Edmund is making it look like he's the former
0:14:20 > 0:14:21Grand Slam winner.
0:14:21 > 0:14:27He's reached round 3 for the
0:14:27 > 0:14:29first time in Melbourne - barely giving Denis Istomin a chance
0:14:29 > 0:14:33with in the 6-2 6-2 6-4 victory overnight to back up that win over
0:14:33 > 0:14:36the number 11 seed in the opening round and a good chance to go even
0:14:36 > 0:14:42further, he'll take on Georgia's Nikoloz Basilashvili.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46He is joined by the 2009 champion - Rafa Nadal who had a straight sets
0:14:46 > 0:14:49victory of his own over Argentina's Leonardo Mayer.
0:14:49 > 0:14:57He reaches round 3 for the 12th time in his career.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01On the women's side of things, Former World Number One Caroline
0:15:01 > 0:15:06Wozniacki had an incredible three set win against Jana Fett of Croatia
0:15:06 > 0:15:10saving 2 match points and came back from 5-1 down in the deciding set
0:15:10 > 0:15:17to make it into round three.
0:15:17 > 0:15:21But what about this for a story - 15 year old qualifier Marta Kostyuk
0:15:21 > 0:15:24is the youngest player to reach the third round at a Grand Slam
0:15:24 > 0:15:25in more than 20 years.
0:15:25 > 0:15:28The World Number 521 came past Olivia Rogowska in straight sets
0:15:28 > 0:15:30to face her fellow Ukranian - the fourth seed Elina
0:15:30 > 0:15:36Svitolina in the last 32.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39And that's a fitting reward for a fantastic performance so far,
0:15:39 > 0:15:42we could be looking at a serious star of the future.
0:15:50 > 0:15:55Thank you, you. We are going to talk about the NHS again today.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58At a time when the NHS is under extraordinary pressure,
0:15:58 > 0:15:59with long waiting times and cancelled operations,
0:15:59 > 0:16:02it's perhaps no surprise that thousands of nurses are choosing
0:16:02 > 0:16:03to leave the profession.
0:16:03 > 0:16:06Figures for England given to the BBC show the numbers leaving outnumbered
0:16:06 > 0:16:07new joiners by 3,000 last year.
0:16:07 > 0:16:10The Government says action is being taken to solve the shortage
0:16:10 > 0:16:13and points to a big increase in training places.
0:16:13 > 0:16:15But the Royal College of Nursing says many of those leaving
0:16:15 > 0:16:17are demoralised and that won't change without better
0:16:17 > 0:16:22pay and conditions.
0:16:22 > 0:16:26If you are a nurse continuing leaving the profession or have
0:16:26 > 0:16:32recently left, do let me know your reasons why.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34In a moment, we'll speak to our correspondent
0:16:34 > 0:16:36Dominic Hughes who is at Birmingham's Children hospital.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39But first, let's hear from a nurse who felt she had no choice
0:18:14 > 0:18:16Let's speak to our health correspondent Dominic Hughes
0:18:16 > 0:18:21at Birmingham Children's Hospital.
0:18:21 > 0:18:28Hi, Dominik.Yes, good morning. We are in the clinical research
0:18:28 > 0:18:31facility here at Birmingham Children's Hospital where the aim is
0:18:31 > 0:18:35to try to produce new drugs and treatments to help sick children. We
0:18:35 > 0:18:40are looking at the work of the UK's meat right across the BBC today and
0:18:40 > 0:18:44I'm delighted to say I am joined by one of those nurses, Lucy Cooper.
0:18:44 > 0:18:48Thank you for joining us. You are a research advanced nurse
0:18:48 > 0:18:54practitioner. That is a great job title.What does that mean? So,
0:18:54 > 0:18:57working in the research facility have allowed me to advance my
0:18:57 > 0:19:03nursing skills whilst maintaining patient focus, so I can undertake
0:19:03 > 0:19:06advanced skills and still maintain and look after patients.What do you
0:19:06 > 0:19:12actually do?So, I bridge the gap between the doctors and the nurses,
0:19:12 > 0:19:22so supporting research nurses but also taking on some doctors
0:19:22 > 0:19:25responsibilities, undertaking cannulation, blood sampling, and
0:19:25 > 0:19:29other advanced nursing skills.Quite advanced stuff you are doing. What
0:19:29 > 0:19:33is the ultimate aim here?It is generally to improve their health
0:19:33 > 0:19:36and wealth of the whole of the nation, and we're doing that by
0:19:36 > 0:19:41seeing patients to not just locally and nationally but internationally
0:19:41 > 0:19:49as well here in this department.And I think you'll roll is quite unique?
0:19:49 > 0:19:54Yes, to my knowledge, I am the only one doing what I do in the whole of
0:19:54 > 0:19:58the UK.When you started out in the NHS, did you envisage you would end
0:19:58 > 0:20:06up in this job? It is quite different to a standard nursing job.
0:20:06 > 0:20:12Yes, I did, actually. When I bested by training, my passion was -- when
0:20:12 > 0:20:15I first started my training, my passion was in research and that is
0:20:15 > 0:20:21where I wanted my career to go. I came here ten years ago when this
0:20:21 > 0:20:25facility first opened and have allowed me to advance my skills and
0:20:25 > 0:20:28undertake new training.How important is it then that there are
0:20:28 > 0:20:31opportunities like the one you seized and some of the other nurses
0:20:31 > 0:20:35we have heard from this morning who have taken on those roles, how
0:20:35 > 0:20:38important is it that those roles are there to encourage people to stay in
0:20:38 > 0:20:43the profession?It is so important. We are nurses, that is what we're
0:20:43 > 0:20:47here for, we love the patient contact. This role has allowed me to
0:20:47 > 0:20:51take on my career and pursue a higher level but also stay really
0:20:51 > 0:20:56focus to being an nurse and that is really important to me. Still see
0:20:56 > 0:21:00the patients, give the reassuring hand on a patient's shoulder, a
0:21:00 > 0:21:06family 's shoulder, but also develop my skills and give a strong research
0:21:06 > 0:21:13role.20 years ago, this role may not have been there? You would have
0:21:13 > 0:21:19had to go into management.Yes, and this is what is great, because I can
0:21:19 > 0:21:23stay in nursing but advance my career.Do you think that is what
0:21:23 > 0:21:31will help nurses coming into the profession now to stay focused?
0:21:31 > 0:21:36Absolutely. There are roles now where you can stay really patient
0:21:36 > 0:21:40focused.Can you appreciate that some younger nurses try it for a
0:21:40 > 0:21:46couple of years and then then, this isn't me? Because it a hard job.It
0:21:46 > 0:21:52is hard, the shift work, the patient demands. It ever-changing, the
0:21:52 > 0:21:55goalposts are always moving but we like to think we are active do that
0:21:55 > 0:21:58and that opportunities like this will spur people to stay in the
0:21:58 > 0:22:03profession and give them a goal to work forward with a lifelong career
0:22:03 > 0:22:08in nursing.What do you think are the qualities you need to make a go
0:22:08 > 0:22:13of this career, because it is not easy?Within research, you have your
0:22:13 > 0:22:16normal core skills that any generic Naz has, but above that in research
0:22:16 > 0:22:22you need meticulous skills are maintaining patient safety, IT and
0:22:22 > 0:22:30leadership skills that we ask of. Lucy, thank you very much for
0:22:30 > 0:22:33joining us and sharing your wisdom that you have garnered over your
0:22:33 > 0:22:38career as a nurse. We will be looking at nurses across the UK
0:22:38 > 0:22:41across BBC News today, so stay tuned for that.
0:22:41 > 0:22:42Thanks Dominic and Lucy.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45Here with us now are two nurses who have both spent twenty
0:22:45 > 0:22:53years working in the NHS.
0:23:02 > 0:23:03Joanne Szczyglowski -
0:23:03 > 0:23:10who is considering giving up her job.
0:23:10 > 0:23:12And we have Rohit Sagoo, who now teaches student nurses.
0:23:12 > 0:23:16He's also the founder of British Sikh Nurses.
0:23:16 > 0:23:26You are considering leaving. Are you going to?Yes.Why?I started my
0:23:26 > 0:23:36training in 1994. At that point, we had Project 2004 nurses, we had our
0:23:36 > 0:23:40bursary, we even had subsidised living so I was living in the
0:23:40 > 0:23:44nursing home surrounded by nurses and it was amazing. I qualified in
0:23:44 > 0:23:511997 and went on to work in haematology and intensive care. I
0:23:51 > 0:23:55felt valued and I felt supported. Over the years, as the pressures on
0:23:55 > 0:24:01the NHS have got greater, that support and that value has changed
0:24:01 > 0:24:05for me. I have worked in many different areas. I had a time where
0:24:05 > 0:24:11I actually went into the corporate world, but after awhile I realised
0:24:11 > 0:24:14that I missed the hands-on nursing and that's when I went back into the
0:24:14 > 0:24:23NHS.But when she missed that now?I think I will but what it is is that
0:24:23 > 0:24:26I feel that the level of care I'm giving has been compromised. I work
0:24:26 > 0:24:31in a busy GP's surgery. We literally have ten minutes to see patients and
0:24:31 > 0:24:38now I feel that I'm not being true to myself because, I'll give you an
0:24:38 > 0:24:42example, recently I had a lady who came in for a simple injection but I
0:24:42 > 0:24:46had read her medical notes and I knew that she was suffering from
0:24:46 > 0:24:52cancer and it was terminal. I literally had less than ten minutes
0:24:52 > 0:24:57because of the pressures, so I knew that I had to get this patient in
0:24:57 > 0:25:02and out of my room. Now, how is that being a health care professional,
0:25:02 > 0:25:07caring for people?And you had to do that because you had a queue of
0:25:07 > 0:25:13people presumably also waiting to see you?Yes, so I felt that I
0:25:13 > 0:25:17wasn't being authentic, I wasn't giving the care that that lady
0:25:17 > 0:25:21needed and really, probably, she just needed a little bit of a chat,
0:25:21 > 0:25:25a little bit of time to talk, but that's not something I was able to
0:25:25 > 0:25:31offer her.Let me
0:25:32 > 0:25:35offer her.Let me bring in Rohit. First of all, how do you react that
0:25:35 > 0:25:39a colleague of yours is leaving after 20 years?It's very sad to see
0:25:39 > 0:25:50you leaving the profession. As a nurse myself, I think it's great,
0:25:50 > 0:25:55with a vast amount of nursing, as we have seen, and it's a career, a
0:25:55 > 0:26:00profession that is fast, and it's really sad, it will be a loss to
0:26:00 > 0:26:07nursing, just like many others who leave.And it's not just people like
0:26:07 > 0:26:15Jalan who have left -- who are leaving the profession, new student
0:26:15 > 0:26:21nurses are leaving as well. You train them. Why do you think it is?
0:26:21 > 0:26:28The training is robust, so they are prepared for the realities of the
0:26:28 > 0:26:31NHS. When they go to their jobs and they qualify as well, they are
0:26:31 > 0:26:36relatively doing the jobs that they were doing and most places, actually
0:26:36 > 0:26:41their last placements that they have, most wards take them on for a
0:26:41 > 0:26:44permanent job within their last training practice areas.So why are
0:26:44 > 0:26:51they going them?They are challenging times at the moment in
0:26:51 > 0:26:56the NHS, I think we all know that. It is busy, it is getting busier.
0:26:56 > 0:27:00The ageing population, a lot more people using the service as much as
0:27:00 > 0:27:04possible.Janine has e-mailed. I am a highly experienced nurse
0:27:04 > 0:27:11practitioner. I have just left the profession after 38 years, I am
0:27:11 > 0:27:18constantly being asked to return but I feel exhausted. It is sad to say
0:27:18 > 0:27:21my profession has deteriorated to such an extent that I am ashamed of
0:27:21 > 0:27:25what it stands for now and the appalling care I am forced to give
0:27:25 > 0:27:28due to lack of staff. You will know the Department of Health says that
0:27:28 > 0:27:35around only 12,000 more nurses are now was -- our wards since May 20
0:27:35 > 0:27:40ten. What would you say to that?I think it is evident that nurses like
0:27:40 > 0:27:44myself are having to make the decision and I myself have decided
0:27:44 > 0:27:49that I am no longer going to put myself through the stress and leave
0:27:49 > 0:27:55work at the end of the day feeling dissatisfied. So, I am probably one
0:27:55 > 0:27:59of the lucky ones in the fact that I've come up with a plan. So I
0:27:59 > 0:28:04actually last year decided to retrain and I picked a company
0:28:04 > 0:28:13called Digital mums, who offer women like me, mothers, the opportunity to
0:28:13 > 0:28:18retrain, so I've retrained in social media marketing and this new role is
0:28:18 > 0:28:23going to offer me the flexibility, it's going to offer me the worklife
0:28:23 > 0:28:27balance that I need now.A subject that we are covering in the next
0:28:27 > 0:28:35half-hour. Rohit 12,000 more nurses are now wards since 2010?That says
0:28:35 > 0:28:39a lot in terms of it and what we need to think about, I know we have
0:28:39 > 0:28:42seen figures about nurses leaving the profession, but what we need to
0:28:42 > 0:28:47think about is retention. How do we retain those 12,000?How do we do
0:28:47 > 0:28:53it?Strategically, we need to explore opportunities for enhancing
0:28:53 > 0:29:00our training, just as we hassle with Lucy. Das just as we saw with Lucy.
0:29:00 > 0:29:03That's what we need to concentrate on and that is what the government
0:29:03 > 0:29:07needs to concentrate on as well. Both of you, thank you very much
0:29:07 > 0:29:13indeed. If you are considering or have recently left the profession,
0:29:13 > 0:29:18do let me know why.
0:29:18 > 0:29:19Still to come.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21As police in California release more details about the 13 siblings
0:29:21 > 0:29:26imprisoned in their home, we'll speak to a woman who was held
0:29:26 > 0:29:28captive as a 13-year-old about how she recovered
0:29:28 > 0:29:29from the horrific experience.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31Would you be more productive if you worked less?
0:29:31 > 0:29:34We meet the UK companies who say business is booming since they gave
0:29:34 > 0:29:37staff more time off.
0:29:43 > 0:29:51Time for the latest news - here's Annita.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54NHS figures show 3000 more nurses left the health service in England
0:29:54 > 0:29:59last year than joined. In each of the past three years more than 10%
0:29:59 > 0:30:02of the nursing workforce left. The government insists there are more
0:30:02 > 0:30:07nurses than 2010 and two measures are being taken to retain
0:30:07 > 0:30:11experienced staff.
0:30:11 > 0:30:14Documents seen by the BBC show the services and construction giant
0:30:14 > 0:30:16Carillion, was left with just £29 million in cash when it
0:30:16 > 0:30:19collapsed on Monday - but owed more than £1.3 billion
0:30:19 > 0:30:20to its banks.
0:30:20 > 0:30:28The figures are from a witness statement to the insolvency court
0:30:29 > 0:30:31The revelations will worry businesses owed money by Carillion,
0:30:31 > 0:30:34which is one of the biggest public sector contractors in the UK.
0:30:34 > 0:30:36Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across Scotland,
0:30:36 > 0:30:37Northern Ireland and Northern England.
0:30:37 > 0:30:40The main motorway between Scotland and England - the M74 -
0:30:40 > 0:30:44was closed in parts because of snow and some drivers already on the road
0:30:44 > 0:30:45were stuck overnight.
0:30:45 > 0:30:48It's since re-opened.
0:30:48 > 0:30:50A Conservative MP has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012,
0:30:50 > 0:30:54suggesting that unemployed people on benefits should have vasectomies
0:30:54 > 0:30:56if they couldn't afford to have more children.
0:30:56 > 0:30:58Ben Bradley, who's 28, was made Conservative vice chairman
0:30:58 > 0:31:06for youth in Theresa May's reshuffle last week.
0:31:17 > 0:31:19The Home and Away actress Jessica Falkholt has died
0:31:19 > 0:31:26from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago.
0:31:26 > 0:31:27The 29-year-old actress played Hope Morrison
0:31:27 > 0:31:28in the Australian series.
0:31:28 > 0:31:31The accident in New South Wales on Boxing Day had already
0:31:31 > 0:31:33killed her parents, sister and the other driver.
0:31:33 > 0:31:36The Bayeux Tapestry is set to be displayed in Britain for the first
0:31:36 > 0:31:38time since it was made in the 11th century.
0:31:38 > 0:31:41The French President Emmanuel Macron is due to confirm the loan
0:31:41 > 0:31:42when he meets Theresa May at Sandhurst tomorrow.
0:31:42 > 0:31:45It's not clear where or when the artwork will be displayed,
0:31:45 > 0:31:48and tests will need to be carried out to ensure it can be
0:31:48 > 0:31:49moved without damage.
0:31:49 > 0:31:51That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:31:51 > 0:31:52Here's some sport now.
0:31:52 > 0:31:55There was a piece of footballing history last night as the VAR system
0:31:55 > 0:31:58was responsible for awarding a goal for the first time.
0:31:58 > 0:32:01It came in Leicester City's 2-0 win over Fleetwood Town in their FA
0:32:01 > 0:32:02Cup third round replay.
0:32:02 > 0:32:10Reece Burke scored his first West Ham goal.
0:32:10 > 0:32:17But they needed extra time to get past League 1 side Shrewsbury town.
0:32:17 > 0:32:25Reading, Cardiff and Sheffield Wednesday are also through to round
0:32:25 > 0:32:30four.
0:32:32 > 0:32:34At the Australian Open tennis there's been another good win
0:32:34 > 0:32:36for British number 2 Kyle Edmund.
0:32:36 > 0:32:38He cruised past Denis Istomin in straight sets to reach
0:32:38 > 0:32:45the Third Round for the first time.
0:32:45 > 0:32:48But the win of the day went to 15 year old Marta Kostyuk -
0:32:48 > 0:32:51she's the youngest player to reach the third round at a Grand Slam
0:32:51 > 0:32:54in more than 20 years after coming past Olivia Rogowska
0:32:54 > 0:32:57Each morning at this time we bring you up to date on the latest
0:32:57 > 0:32:59in the trial of former football coach Barry Bennell.
0:32:59 > 0:33:02The court heard yesterday he was treated as "a God" on visits
0:33:02 > 0:33:04to Manchester City's ground, according to one of
0:33:04 > 0:33:05his alleged victims.
0:33:05 > 0:33:07Our reporter Jim Reed has been following the trial
0:33:07 > 0:33:08at Liverpool Crown Court.
0:33:08 > 0:33:09He's here now.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12Yes, this is the trial of Barry Bennell, a former youth
0:33:12 > 0:33:14football coach linked to clubs including Manchester City
0:33:14 > 0:33:15and Crewe Alexandra.
0:33:15 > 0:33:18He's charged with a total of 48 counts of historic abuse
0:33:18 > 0:33:20between 1979 and 1991, cahrges which he denies.
0:33:20 > 0:33:22between 1979 and 1991, charges which he denies.
0:33:22 > 0:33:30He's appearing in court by video link because of ill health.
0:33:30 > 0:33:32Yesterday was day five of the trial.
0:33:32 > 0:33:35The jury heard from an alleged victim in the case -
0:33:35 > 0:33:37a man now in his 40s who gave evidence anonymously
0:33:37 > 0:33:41from behind a screen.
0:33:41 > 0:33:45He said he was spotted by Barry Bennell playing
0:33:45 > 0:33:48for his school team, then taken to Man City's training
0:33:48 > 0:33:52ground and to the club's then home ground at Maine Road.
0:33:52 > 0:33:56He told the jury: "I thought 'this is it, I've made my dream,
0:33:56 > 0:34:00I'm going to be a footballer', as everybody wants to at that age."
0:34:00 > 0:34:02And what did the court hear about Bennell's links
0:34:02 > 0:34:06with Manchester City itself?
0:34:06 > 0:34:13Well, the alleged victim did talk about that.
0:34:14 > 0:34:17He said that Bennell was treated - as he put it - as a God
0:34:17 > 0:34:19by everyone from security up to senior members
0:34:19 > 0:34:24of staff at the club.
0:34:24 > 0:34:32Later, he said he was invited to Mr Bennell's home.
0:34:33 > 0:34:36And he says he was abused there as well as in Mr Bennell's car
0:34:36 > 0:34:38and on a trip to North Wales.
0:34:38 > 0:34:42He told the jury: "I knew it was wrong but I also knew you had
0:34:42 > 0:34:43to keep Barry happy."
0:34:43 > 0:34:45Because of the abuse, he claimed he started making excuses
0:34:45 > 0:34:48to miss training and matches around this time and went "off
0:34:48 > 0:34:49the rails" as he put it.
0:34:49 > 0:34:54And what happened under cross examination?
0:34:54 > 0:34:57Well, he was asked by Eleanor Laws QC, who is representing Mr Bennell,
0:34:57 > 0:34:59whether he had discussed any compensation for the abuse.
0:34:59 > 0:35:04He said, "You keep talking to me about money.
0:35:04 > 0:35:07I'm not here for money, I'm here for closure and justice."
0:35:07 > 0:35:11Earlier in the day, the court was read a transcript of a police
0:35:11 > 0:35:13interview given by Mr Bennell in which he described grooming
0:35:13 > 0:35:15another alleged victim.
0:35:15 > 0:35:18He said, "I got friendly with him so he'd trust me,
0:35:18 > 0:35:20it was my usual procedure."
0:35:20 > 0:35:24But when officers told him about the precise allegations
0:35:24 > 0:35:27made by that person, he described him as an "absolute
0:35:27 > 0:35:31liar" who was "jumping on the bandwagon."
0:35:31 > 0:35:34As I said earlier, Mr Bennell denies 48 counts of abuse.
0:35:34 > 0:35:39The trial continues this morning.
0:35:39 > 0:35:43Thank you very much.
0:35:43 > 0:35:51Analysis given exclusively to this programme by the workers union
0:35:51 > 0:35:55the TUC has found 1 in 8 of us are working in excess of 48 hours
0:35:55 > 0:35:58a week, something they warn can have a severe impact on our health.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01Cutting our hours would be good for us, but could it also be good
0:36:01 > 0:36:03for the companies we work for?
0:36:03 > 0:36:06Our reporter Michael Cowan has been to meet the firms pioneering
0:36:06 > 0:36:08new approaches to improve the work-life balance.
0:36:08 > 0:36:12Over 32 million of us are employed in Britain.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14One in eight work more than 48 hours a week.
0:36:14 > 0:36:16But compared to our European neighbours,
0:36:16 > 0:36:20we're not very productive.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22Workers in Germany, for example, can actually stop working
0:36:22 > 0:36:26on the Thursday and yet still produce more than we do.
0:36:26 > 0:36:28Some companies think the answer to greater productivity
0:36:28 > 0:36:34lies in working less.
0:36:34 > 0:36:38We managed to work so efficiently that we can be as profitable in four
0:36:38 > 0:36:40days as we could be in five.
0:36:40 > 0:36:46I don't ever foresee us moving back to a five-day week.
0:36:46 > 0:36:50Other businesses are about to follow suit, in a bid to achieve balance.
0:36:50 > 0:36:52I think there's a risk involved for me.
0:36:52 > 0:36:53I mean, this isn't a job for me.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56This is everything.
0:36:56 > 0:37:01It's the perennial question of modern Britain - how do
0:37:01 > 0:37:06we achieve a work-life balance?
0:37:06 > 0:37:09Eight hours labour, eight hours recreation and eight hours rest.
0:37:09 > 0:37:13That was the ethos of industrialist Robert Owen in 1817.
0:37:13 > 0:37:15And for much of the last two centuries, we haven't
0:37:15 > 0:37:19deviated from his vision.
0:37:19 > 0:37:22But for many, the work-life balance has become a little bit unbalanced.
0:37:22 > 0:37:30But some companies are drastically changing the way we work.
0:37:30 > 0:37:35We start in London, at a design company called Normally.
0:37:35 > 0:37:38It was founded by Marei, Tim, Chris and Mark,
0:37:38 > 0:37:40who believe a four-day week is the key to their
0:37:40 > 0:37:45company's success.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48We've observed that lots of people wait for their whole life for that
0:37:48 > 0:37:50big moment when they retire.
0:37:50 > 0:37:53But we've seen that in a few cases, that never happens,
0:37:53 > 0:37:55because you get ill, or you, you know,
0:37:55 > 0:37:56you're older by then.
0:37:56 > 0:37:59You're not as agile.
0:37:59 > 0:38:02You don't have the energy to really appreciate that time any more.
0:38:02 > 0:38:05Maybe we can just flip that round.
0:38:05 > 0:38:10Maybe we can just take that time and move it forward,
0:38:10 > 0:38:13and give it back to ourselves and our employees.
0:38:13 > 0:38:16So that's when we decided, we're going to go for a four-day week.
0:38:16 > 0:38:19Do you keep to just four days, or do you ever send a few sneaky
0:38:19 > 0:38:21e-mails on the fifth day?
0:38:21 > 0:38:24It's not seen as a positive.
0:38:24 > 0:38:28Anything that happens outside of you being
0:38:28 > 0:38:33physically in the studio is usually frowned upon.
0:38:33 > 0:38:36And if I see that happen regularly, I know this person is up doing
0:38:36 > 0:38:39stuff, I get worried.
0:38:39 > 0:38:42I think, there's something wrong there, and so we should
0:38:42 > 0:38:44have a conversation.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47Some of the superheroes of our time, they're the guys who say,
0:38:47 > 0:38:49I work 90 hours, 100 hours, 120 hours.
0:38:49 > 0:38:50So people think...
0:38:50 > 0:38:52They read those figures and they say, that's what's
0:38:52 > 0:38:54going to make me successful.
0:38:54 > 0:38:58I'm going to do the same and then I'm going to be Elon Musk,
0:38:58 > 0:39:00or I'm going to be, you know, I'm going to have the
0:39:00 > 0:39:01Facebook of the future.
0:39:01 > 0:39:03But that's not true.
0:39:03 > 0:39:05Do your employees get paid the same amount
0:39:05 > 0:39:07as if they were working a five-day week?
0:39:07 > 0:39:09Yes.
0:39:09 > 0:39:11They get paid above market rate, actually,
0:39:11 > 0:39:14which we're really proud of.
0:39:14 > 0:39:21And it's all because we manage to work so efficiently that we can
0:39:21 > 0:39:27be as profitable in the four days as we could be in five.
0:39:27 > 0:39:29This is Basil.
0:39:29 > 0:39:32He's been at the company for two-and-a-half years.
0:39:32 > 0:39:35One of the things that everyone, before they join,
0:39:35 > 0:39:37is concerned about is, are you squeezing five days' amount
0:39:37 > 0:39:41of stress into four days?
0:39:41 > 0:39:43Like, does everything actually push out?
0:39:43 > 0:39:45For whatever reason, we've managed to...
0:39:45 > 0:39:48Like, that just doesn't happen here.
0:39:48 > 0:39:52So occasionally, there is a late one, but I think I can
0:39:52 > 0:39:54probably count two or three in the two-and-a-half years
0:39:54 > 0:39:55that I've been here.
0:39:55 > 0:39:57Do you ever find yourself inadvertently taking the odd call
0:39:57 > 0:40:00or sending the odd e-mail on that fifth day?
0:40:00 > 0:40:04The funny thing is, there's like a, a social...
0:40:04 > 0:40:09Pressure's not quite the right word, but encouragement to make sure that
0:40:09 > 0:40:12you use that fifth day for yourself and not to do work.
0:40:12 > 0:40:14Like, you're not going to get brownie points for replying
0:40:14 > 0:40:17to e-mails on the fifth day.
0:40:17 > 0:40:20But on a larger scale, are there any economic benefits?
0:40:20 > 0:40:25Do longer working hours lead to greater productivity?
0:40:25 > 0:40:29In the UK, we have a bit of a puzzle when it comes to our productivity.
0:40:29 > 0:40:31Workers in Germany, for example, can actually stop working
0:40:31 > 0:40:35on a Thursday and yet still produce more than we do.
0:40:35 > 0:40:38So therefore, greater and longer working hours doesn't necessarily
0:40:38 > 0:40:39mean that we're more productive.
0:40:39 > 0:40:42Especially when it negatively impacts our health and our
0:40:42 > 0:40:43ability to do our job.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46Do initiatives like the four-day week, or the six-hour day,
0:40:46 > 0:40:49impact on our economy?
0:40:49 > 0:40:53Cutting our working hours isn't going to be a simple solution,
0:40:53 > 0:40:54because it's about looking at the employee
0:40:54 > 0:40:55well-being as a whole.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58So, how are we looking after our employees?
0:40:58 > 0:41:00Are we also offering lifestyle benefits?
0:41:00 > 0:41:04Are we harnessing modern technology, to be able to offer greater
0:41:04 > 0:41:07flexibility, as well as making sure that people still deliver?
0:41:07 > 0:41:10Because that's what's going to drive corporate profits and, therefore,
0:41:10 > 0:41:14economic growth more broadly.
0:41:14 > 0:41:20Edinburgh is home to over 3,000 restaurants and cafes,
0:41:20 > 0:41:23and one of the city's most popular is about to make a major shift
0:41:23 > 0:41:27to the way they work.
0:41:27 > 0:41:30Stuart is the chef behind Aizle.
0:41:30 > 0:41:33He trained under Gordon Ramsay in New York and, this year,
0:41:33 > 0:41:37his restaurant is going from five days a week to four.
0:41:37 > 0:41:41So we've decided to close the restaurant one day
0:41:41 > 0:41:44a week more than we did.
0:41:44 > 0:41:47So now, we're only open for four days, four operational days.
0:41:47 > 0:41:51And we extended the opening times a little bit to try and cover that.
0:41:51 > 0:41:53You know, selfishly, I want to spend more time at home.
0:41:53 > 0:41:56You know, I need to have that time with my family now.
0:41:56 > 0:41:58And I also want it for my staff.
0:41:58 > 0:41:59Is that selfish?
0:41:59 > 0:42:02Should we not be prioritising our life over work?
0:42:02 > 0:42:04We definitely shouldn't see it as selfish, but that's how it feels
0:42:04 > 0:42:08when you're used to working a certain way, I think.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11I think if it doesn't work, you know, the immediate
0:42:11 > 0:42:15response would be, OK, potentially, we can go back
0:42:15 > 0:42:18to opening some days within the higher season points.
0:42:18 > 0:42:20The Festival times, the Christmas times.
0:42:20 > 0:42:23We can go back up to five days then and see if that works.
0:42:23 > 0:42:26And long-term, if it doesn't work, then the restaurant was never
0:42:26 > 0:42:28sustainable enough anyway.
0:42:28 > 0:42:32Jade is the restaurant's manager.
0:42:32 > 0:42:35How did you first react when you were told you were going
0:42:35 > 0:42:37from a five-day week to a four-day week?
0:42:37 > 0:42:39Overjoyed.
0:42:39 > 0:42:43It's a huge benefit to our actual social life to be able to have
0:42:43 > 0:42:45some extra time off.
0:42:45 > 0:42:47I mean, you're the restaurant manager and it's essentially losing
0:42:47 > 0:42:5020% of the profits from the business because you're taking
0:42:50 > 0:42:51away 20% of the hours.
0:42:51 > 0:42:53That must concern you on some level?
0:42:53 > 0:42:54Totally.
0:42:54 > 0:42:56It's such a stupid move, so stupid.
0:42:56 > 0:42:59It's the worst thing that a business could do.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02We spent a whole year trying to take that same revenue
0:43:02 > 0:43:05and trying, in some way, to have a better life balance.
0:43:05 > 0:43:07Like, Stuart's son's two and a half, and he's had three
0:43:07 > 0:43:09services off in four years.
0:43:09 > 0:43:10That's crazy.
0:43:10 > 0:43:12Do you think it's going to work?
0:43:12 > 0:43:14I think it will either crash and burn very
0:43:14 > 0:43:16quickly or totally work.
0:43:16 > 0:43:20And I think we'll know in the first month.
0:43:20 > 0:43:27But one size doesn't fit all.
0:43:27 > 0:43:30This is Agent Marketing, in Liverpool.
0:43:30 > 0:43:33They have a company dog, and bikes to ride to meetings on.
0:43:33 > 0:43:36And two years ago, they trialled a six-hour day.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38We have that opportunity and the flexibility to be able
0:43:38 > 0:43:41to try a new initiative.
0:43:41 > 0:43:44So we'd seen about a company in Sweden that were trialling it,
0:43:44 > 0:43:46and various other companies, and we thought, do you know what,
0:43:46 > 0:43:48why not give it a go?
0:43:48 > 0:43:49It didn't quite work for your business.
0:43:49 > 0:43:51It didn't quite work for your clients.
0:43:51 > 0:43:52Why do you think that was?
0:43:52 > 0:43:55We always said that when we did the trial,
0:43:55 > 0:43:56the most important thing was, obviously, that client
0:43:56 > 0:43:58work would not suffer.
0:43:58 > 0:43:59We'd always meet deadlines.
0:43:59 > 0:44:01And if we had to sacrifice a six-hour working day some
0:44:01 > 0:44:03days to meet deadlines, we would do that.
0:44:03 > 0:44:06So how we do it now is, we have two shorter days.
0:44:06 > 0:44:07So we finish...
0:44:07 > 0:44:11We do a six-hour day on a Friday, and then one day in the week -
0:44:11 > 0:44:13based on deadlines and workload - a team member can
0:44:13 > 0:44:14finish at four o'clock.
0:44:14 > 0:44:16So they can do an early.
0:44:16 > 0:44:22So essentially, we're gaining three-and-a-half hours per week.
0:44:22 > 0:44:24Research has shown that a poor work-life balance can severely
0:44:24 > 0:44:28impact on our health, and one of the main ways this can
0:44:28 > 0:44:33manifest is on our mental health.
0:44:33 > 0:44:37How big of a problem is a poor work-life balance in Britain?
0:44:37 > 0:44:40We know that poor work-life balance can lead to poor mental
0:44:40 > 0:44:42health in the workplace.
0:44:42 > 0:44:46And we know that poor mental health in the workplace is costing the UK
0:44:46 > 0:44:47economy up to £100 billion a year.
0:44:47 > 0:44:52What does work-related stress do to our mental health?
0:44:52 > 0:44:54So what that can look like in an employee is,
0:44:54 > 0:44:56somebody that's extremely stressed, somebody that's unable
0:44:56 > 0:44:59to concentrate, somebody who might not be as motivated
0:44:59 > 0:45:02as they usually are, and somebody who is actually
0:45:02 > 0:45:04working very long hours, but not actually
0:45:04 > 0:45:10being very productive.
0:45:12 > 0:45:14Over a year ago, a marketing firm in Glasgow thought they'd
0:45:14 > 0:45:17trial a four-day week.
0:45:17 > 0:45:20The results surprised them because not only did working less
0:45:20 > 0:45:21maximise productivity, it also boosted profits.
0:45:21 > 0:45:25Lorraine is one of the executives behind Pursuit Marketing.
0:45:25 > 0:45:28They employ over a hundred staff and work a four-day week.
0:45:28 > 0:45:33When did you decide to move to a four-day week?
0:45:33 > 0:45:36We ran a trial of different kind of flexible working patterns
0:45:36 > 0:45:39and in the three months that we ran that programme, the people
0:45:39 > 0:45:43working the four-day week were the most productive,
0:45:43 > 0:45:45happier in their role and really reporting great things
0:45:45 > 0:45:48about the time they were getting at home with their family.
0:45:48 > 0:45:51From the business perspective, what are the benefits?
0:45:51 > 0:45:53When our staff are in the office, they're far more productive.
0:45:53 > 0:45:55They're focused on what they need to do.
0:45:55 > 0:45:58And they want to enjoy that three-day weekend every weekend
0:45:58 > 0:46:00and not be worried about work.
0:46:00 > 0:46:02So productivity increased initially by about 38%.
0:46:02 > 0:46:07And over the last year or so, it's settled down to about 30% overall.
0:46:07 > 0:46:10Our business has grown substantially, so we entered 2017
0:46:10 > 0:46:14on 2.2 million turnover.
0:46:14 > 0:46:17We're about to enter 2018 in a 5-million turnover year and,
0:46:17 > 0:46:19what's more, internationally, so it's been an exciting
0:46:19 > 0:46:21thing for us.
0:46:21 > 0:46:24How much do you think that success is due to the flexible working
0:46:24 > 0:46:26initiatives you have?
0:46:26 > 0:46:29It's a huge factor because the culture in the workplace
0:46:29 > 0:46:31drives better results, better performance,
0:46:31 > 0:46:34a happier workforce.
0:46:34 > 0:46:37So our retention rates are really high and we can attract the best
0:46:37 > 0:46:40talent to our teams.
0:46:40 > 0:46:42And our clients can invest in training these people,
0:46:42 > 0:46:44knowing they'll be here in the long term and they're not
0:46:44 > 0:46:45going to disappear.
0:46:45 > 0:46:48So, we work with the world's largest IT companies and they choose
0:46:48 > 0:46:51us over other agencies because of the culture and how
0:46:51 > 0:46:53well we treat our staff.
0:46:53 > 0:46:55Do you pay your staff a full-time salary for working four days?
0:46:55 > 0:46:59Yes.
0:46:59 > 0:47:01So, our salaries, basic salaries, are around 25-28 K per annum.
0:47:01 > 0:47:04On target to 45-50 K.
0:47:04 > 0:47:07When we launched the four-day week, we actually increased our basic
0:47:07 > 0:47:11salaries for some, but their working hours were reduced to four days.
0:47:11 > 0:47:14Do you envisage a time where you would revert
0:47:14 > 0:47:16back to a five-day week?
0:47:16 > 0:47:19Definitely not.
0:47:19 > 0:47:21I think in terms of the exceptional productivity results we've got,
0:47:21 > 0:47:23how happy our staff are, our staff retention rates,
0:47:23 > 0:47:26our clients have all bought into it now and they're trialling it
0:47:26 > 0:47:29themselves in some areas, so I don't ever foresee us moving
0:47:29 > 0:47:32back to a five-day week.
0:47:32 > 0:47:35All the businesses we met had one thing in common -
0:47:35 > 0:47:37they weren't afraid to experiment.
0:47:37 > 0:47:40And whether they were successful or not, their sheer willingness
0:47:40 > 0:47:43to try new things is what's going to drive forward innovation,
0:47:43 > 0:47:47and that will create a better work-life balance for workers
0:47:47 > 0:47:50across the country.
0:47:55 > 0:48:03Thank you for your messages on this. This you said I am a dairy farmer
0:48:03 > 0:48:08working 94 hours a week. I have a young son that I hardly see. Another
0:48:08 > 0:48:14viewers as I work in tech. I was working a 12 hour day. I decided to
0:48:14 > 0:48:18leave, setup own IT recruitment company from home and the rest as
0:48:18 > 0:48:23they say is history. I am more productive, more able to focus on
0:48:23 > 0:48:29fitness, I am enjoying family life more and not stressed out. Mark says
0:48:29 > 0:48:34people and their teams need to work smarter but this only happens with
0:48:34 > 0:48:39decent management. Every company I have worked for has operated
0:48:39 > 0:48:46chaotically with weak management. Do let me know if you have managed to
0:48:46 > 0:48:50find some worklife balance? If you are a boss, what have you brought in
0:48:50 > 0:48:58to make sure people aren't stressed out and working productively?
0:48:58 > 0:49:00out and working productively? We are going to get the latest from
0:49:00 > 0:49:05California now on the parents who were allegedly holding their 13th
0:49:05 > 0:49:07children captive.
0:49:07 > 0:49:10Police in California have praised the bravery of the 17-year-old girl
0:49:10 > 0:49:12who escaped from the home where she and her 12 siblings
0:49:12 > 0:49:14were allegedly being held captive by their parents.
0:49:14 > 0:49:17The brothers and sisters - aged between 2 and 29 -
0:49:17 > 0:49:19are now being cared for while their parents,
0:49:19 > 0:49:21David and Louise Turpin, are facing charges of torture.
0:49:21 > 0:49:23Louise Turpin's aunt has been speaking of her reaction
0:49:23 > 0:49:24to the allegations.
0:49:24 > 0:49:26Never been so shocked in my life.
0:49:26 > 0:49:27It broke my heart.
0:49:27 > 0:49:28It broke all of our hearts.
0:49:28 > 0:49:31I just pray that they take care of the kids,
0:49:31 > 0:49:34and I hope they prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law,
0:49:34 > 0:49:35even if she is my niece.
0:49:35 > 0:49:37Because them kids don't deserve it.
0:49:37 > 0:49:40Is it possible to recover from such an ordeal?
0:49:40 > 0:49:43We're going to talk now to Alicia Kozakiewicz in New York,
0:49:43 > 0:49:47who was held captive when she was 13 years old
0:49:47 > 0:49:49and raped, beaten and tortured for four days.
0:49:49 > 0:49:55She now runs the Alicia Project, to raise awareness of child sexual
0:49:55 > 0:49:56exploitation and abduction; Professor Peter Ayton,
0:49:56 > 0:50:00a professor of psychology at City University London;
0:50:00 > 0:50:03and in northern California is Dr Rebecca Bailey,
0:50:03 > 0:50:05a therapist who worked with Jaycee Dugard after her release
0:50:05 > 0:50:13from 18 years in captivity.
0:50:13 > 0:50:17Thank you very much for talking to us, particularly given the time
0:50:17 > 0:50:22where you are in the States. Alicia, as I said, you were 13 when you were
0:50:22 > 0:50:26abducted. Tell our British audience have that experience changed your
0:50:26 > 0:50:32life.Well, it changes everything. It takes the familiar into the
0:50:32 > 0:50:37unfamiliar. There's the horrific event and then there's the aftermath
0:50:37 > 0:50:44and the healing, which is difficult. It's not impossible, but it's
0:50:44 > 0:50:51difficult and it takes time.Can you give us some insight, Alicia, into
0:50:51 > 0:50:57how you began the process of recovery?Like I said, it does take
0:50:57 > 0:51:02time and it's different for everybody. And time is a big factor,
0:51:02 > 0:51:07time really does help. But what's really important is to find
0:51:07 > 0:51:14something that gives you a moment of peace and a moment of joy, be it art
0:51:14 > 0:51:22or photography or writing poems or whatever it may be, and of course,
0:51:22 > 0:51:27to seek help, to seek therapeutic services. But to do it in your way,
0:51:27 > 0:51:33in your time. There is no timeline in this.Rebecca Bailey, as I said,
0:51:33 > 0:51:37you worked with Jaycee do guard, kidnapped at the age of 11 and kept
0:51:37 > 0:51:46as a hostage for 18 years, eventually, in a couple's back
0:51:46 > 0:51:54garden will stop -- essentially, in a couple's back garden. So you will
0:51:54 > 0:51:59have some insight into this.I think it's very important that we
0:51:59 > 0:52:03understand that everybody goes through this in their own time.
0:52:03 > 0:52:07Immediately, you will have different people with different responses and
0:52:07 > 0:52:11a great deal of shock. It's extremely important that people
0:52:11 > 0:52:15understand the shocking nature of coming out of being sequestered into
0:52:15 > 0:52:20the greater world. We do have some thought, and I have not met these
0:52:20 > 0:52:27people directly, that if they have been out and about -- that they have
0:52:27 > 0:52:31been out and about, there are pictures in a chapel in Las Vegas,
0:52:31 > 0:52:36so they haven't been completely cut off, but regardless, they have been
0:52:36 > 0:52:40living in an extremely intense, horrible situation from everything
0:52:40 > 0:52:46we hear. The immediate challenge is their physical nutrition and their
0:52:46 > 0:52:51physical well-being from everything I am hearing and seeing.Let me
0:52:51 > 0:52:54bring in Peter Ayton. Rebecca talked about the images we have seen when
0:52:54 > 0:53:00the children were in Las Vegas, as the parents apparently renewed their
0:53:00 > 0:53:05wedding vows. Pictures of them at Disneyland in red T-shirts. All
0:53:05 > 0:53:10smiling, of course, in contrast to what was going on in reality.So, I
0:53:10 > 0:53:13don't think we would have seen those images have they not been smiling.
0:53:13 > 0:53:17There are all sorts of questions that arise and we don't know almost
0:53:17 > 0:53:23any of the facts here, about the extent to which they were able to
0:53:23 > 0:53:27behave as they actually felt. To the point where they were rescued,
0:53:27 > 0:53:34several of them were obviously being coerced, if they are chained up.So
0:53:34 > 0:53:38you mean those photos were chosen carefully and specifically to
0:53:38 > 0:53:42portray an image potentially?Well, I know none of the facts, let me be
0:53:42 > 0:53:45quite clear about that. I don't think anyone knows much yet about
0:53:45 > 0:53:50what actually happened but that image is very provocative because it
0:53:50 > 0:53:54suggested some way that the children were well balanced and living in a
0:53:54 > 0:53:59happy environment and so on. I mean, I wouldn't trust that at all. But
0:53:59 > 0:54:03the way it informs the story, the way that I think some journalists
0:54:03 > 0:54:08will react, I am waiting to read the accounts of the stockholder syndrome
0:54:08 > 0:54:13and how people are complicit with their captors and even in some way
0:54:13 > 0:54:17encourage and induce their captors to treat them as they do. You know,
0:54:17 > 0:54:23Stockholm syndrome is very much a journalistic mean. It doesn't have
0:54:23 > 0:54:28any
0:54:28 > 0:54:31any psychiatric definition, I know defence counsel are keen on using it
0:54:31 > 0:54:35in some cases over the years, but it's clear to me that there is a
0:54:35 > 0:54:44very big question mark over the extent in which these and others
0:54:44 > 0:54:47mentioned in the same breath were able to express themselves freely.
0:54:47 > 0:54:52They were living under extreme coercion.Alicia, coming back to you
0:54:52 > 0:54:55for a moment, how do you reflect on what happened to you as a
0:54:55 > 0:55:0113-year-old now?Well, I guess that it certainly changed my life in so
0:55:01 > 0:55:08many ways and it has been a very long, hard road to recovery and
0:55:08 > 0:55:14thereafter or good days and there are still bad days -- there are
0:55:14 > 0:55:20still good days and there are still bad days. And that's OK. It's OK
0:55:20 > 0:55:23years and years later to instil experience pain from what you
0:55:23 > 0:55:32experienced when you are younger. Rebecca, you worked as I said with
0:55:32 > 0:55:39Jay-Z -- with Jaycee Dugard. How would it differ with a large group
0:55:39 > 0:55:45of siblings?I think early on, getting a read on each individual
0:55:45 > 0:55:50person. I am going to echo the fact that there are facts we do not know.
0:55:50 > 0:55:54For example, are we sure they are raw blood siblings? I can't know
0:55:54 > 0:55:59that for sure and I can't imagine that we would be able to say that
0:55:59 > 0:56:03definitively at this stage. What we do know is that we have a group of
0:56:03 > 0:56:06closely connected people, very likely that they are genetically
0:56:06 > 0:56:10connected. They are all going to have different reactions and
0:56:10 > 0:56:16different needs and so the pace of the work has to go at each
0:56:16 > 0:56:27individual person. Also, 100% hallelujah about the stockholder. --
0:56:33 > 0:56:40at the Stockholm syndrome comments. I have never worked with anyone who
0:56:40 > 0:56:47has been quite an quake in love with their captors.It it possible to
0:56:47 > 0:56:53recover from this and live a happy, fulfilled life in the future?As you
0:56:53 > 0:56:56might imagine, it's difficult to do research on all these kinds of cases
0:56:56 > 0:57:01which have different and idiosyncratic features, but there is
0:57:01 > 0:57:05research about how people have adapted to being kept in captivity
0:57:05 > 0:57:11and conditions of extreme cruelty. Notably, a lot of research on
0:57:11 > 0:57:15survivors of the Holocaust and whilst there are, you know, there is
0:57:15 > 0:57:18no way of denying that there are negative symptoms that people often
0:57:18 > 0:57:24carry with them for many years after these events, really, the story that
0:57:24 > 0:57:27I think should be given more attention is the resilience that
0:57:27 > 0:57:34people show in adapting. So many people actually who often are not
0:57:34 > 0:57:38picked up in the more journalistic explanations of these things
0:57:38 > 0:57:44actually live very successful lives. There are, of course, questions
0:57:44 > 0:57:49about can they develop successful relationships which involve trust
0:57:49 > 0:57:52and their one and there is evidence that people can have difficulties
0:57:52 > 0:57:57with this but it's a mixed picture. What ought to be optimised --
0:57:57 > 0:58:04emphasised more, in some ways, is the optimistic fact that given time,
0:58:04 > 0:58:08as we heard earlier, people are able to make very successful transitions
0:58:08 > 0:58:13into so-called normal, happy and healthy lives.Thank you, thank you
0:58:13 > 0:58:17all very much. We really appreciate you coming onto the programme and
0:58:17 > 0:58:25talking to our British audience, Alicia, Rebecca and Peter.
0:58:27 > 0:58:29Coming up.
0:58:29 > 0:58:32After 10am, we hear from a business trying to improve their staff's
0:58:32 > 0:58:35life-work balance - as well as a woman who worked 90
0:58:35 > 0:58:37hours a week when she started working for herself.
0:58:37 > 0:58:40The latest news and sport on the way. Before that, all the weather.
0:58:40 > 0:58:43The latest news and sport on the way. Before that, all the weather.
0:58:43 > 0:58:51We saw a lot of snow last night. We currently have 38 centimetres in
0:58:51 > 0:58:55places in Dumfries and Galloway. That is going on for 15 inches and
0:58:55 > 0:59:04not too far-away from the M74 where we saw
0:59:06 > 0:59:15we saw all the problems. You can see sheltered areas have much lower
0:59:15 > 0:59:21depths of snow. In Northern Ireland, where the hills are not as high, you
0:59:21 > 0:59:24can see 20 centimetres and ten centimetres, a more even
0:59:24 > 0:59:28distribution. Although of course I acknowledge that that is twice as
0:59:28 > 0:59:32much. What we have this morning is some snow around and also some eyes.
0:59:32 > 0:59:36The snow is still falling but it has lost its intensity and also it is
0:59:36 > 0:59:40not as widespread as it was earlier. The other thing is the wind will
0:59:40 > 0:59:45ease down a touch compared to earlier but still we will have snow
0:59:45 > 0:59:52showers and it still will be windy. South of the snow showers, showers
0:59:52 > 1:00:01will tend to be rain and somewhere and we may see Hale and sleet. In
1:00:01 > 1:00:05between, we will see some sunshine. It's the same in Northern Ireland.
1:00:05 > 1:00:09Some showers, some bright spots, some of them wintry especially with
1:00:09 > 1:00:13height, and for Northern England, the showers not as prolific this
1:00:13 > 1:00:17morning. There will be some around which will still be wintry. Some of
1:00:17 > 1:00:21us getting away with a dry day, as is their nature with showers. East
1:00:21 > 1:00:25Anglia, the Midlands, Kent, Hampshire into Wales and the
1:00:25 > 1:00:30south-west, a lot of dry weather and sunshine, but big waves crashing on
1:00:30 > 1:00:35shore in the West. Then the next system comes our way, a deep area of
1:00:35 > 1:00:39low pressure. I have stopped this chart that 8pm this evening to show
1:00:39 > 1:00:42you what is happening. There is a lot of rain coming our way, some
1:00:42 > 1:00:49heavy rain, we will see snow in places in the hills of Wales and
1:00:49 > 1:00:54Northern Ireland. As this rain pushes through, I will run the chart
1:00:54 > 1:00:58to buy they tomorrow, you can see further heavy snow across northern
1:00:58 > 1:01:01England, also through southern and possibly Central Scotland. At the
1:01:01 > 1:01:05same time, heavy rain moves across Northern Ireland, Wales and all of
1:01:05 > 1:01:09England away from where we have the snow. It will be driven on by gale
1:01:09 > 1:01:13force winds. You will have a period of about three hours of heavy rain.
1:01:13 > 1:01:21The wind in and will be gusting 40, 50 mph. Around the coast, we are
1:01:21 > 1:01:24looking at wind strength of up to 70 mph. Again, there is the risk of
1:01:24 > 1:01:27ice, and this time tomorrow morning, we will still have some of that low
1:01:27 > 1:01:32pressure affecting Eastham parts of the UK with snow and rain. It will
1:01:32 > 1:01:36clear quickly and by mid-morning it will be in Germany. With that
1:01:36 > 1:01:40combination, we are looking at further likely travel disruption. We
1:01:40 > 1:01:44had severe gales, heavy rain and snow as well. But look how quickly
1:01:44 > 1:01:48it clears. It pushes off into the North Sea, the strongest winds go
1:01:48 > 1:01:55with it, they hide it we have a mixture of showers and sunshine and
1:01:55 > 1:02:01once again, it will feel cool.
1:02:01 > 1:02:02Thank you very much.
1:02:02 > 1:02:03Hello.
1:02:03 > 1:02:05It's Wednesday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
1:02:05 > 1:02:08Tens of thousands of nurses are leaving the NHS in England every
1:02:08 > 1:02:13year, piling pressure on over-stretched wards
1:02:13 > 1:02:21When I graduated, I was so excited, I really wanted to do a job
1:02:21 > 1:02:27where I could make a difference.
1:02:27 > 1:02:32And to help people.
1:02:33 > 1:02:36But I've found that things have got more and more stressful and we've
1:02:36 > 1:02:38been under more and more pressure.
1:02:38 > 1:02:42The Royal College of Nursing says pay and training need to improve.
1:02:42 > 1:02:46Heidi tells us she is a midwife of four years and actively looking for
1:02:46 > 1:02:47a new job.
1:02:47 > 1:02:50There's a warning that numerous children and vulnerable witnesses
1:02:50 > 1:02:52are being denied proper justice in England and Wales,
1:02:52 > 1:02:53because there aren't enough specially-trained intermediaries
1:02:53 > 1:02:56to guide them through the process of giving evidence in court.
1:02:56 > 1:03:01We will bring you the story. Would you be more productive if you worked
1:03:01 > 1:03:06less? Companies who say businesses booming since they gave staff more
1:03:06 > 1:03:10time off.Workers in Germany can stop working on the Thursday and yet
1:03:10 > 1:03:15still produce more than we do. So dapper, greater and longer working
1:03:15 > 1:03:20hours does not necessarily mean we are more productive, especially when
1:03:20 > 1:03:25it affects our health and ability to do our job.Tell us about your
1:03:25 > 1:03:29phone, there is the right work-life balance that allows you to be more
1:03:29 > 1:03:31productive. Let me know.
1:03:31 > 1:03:34And the Bayeux Tapestry is set to be displayed in Britain for the first
1:03:34 > 1:03:36time since it was made in the 11th Century.
1:03:36 > 1:03:40We will talk to a man from the British Museum who is really,
1:03:40 > 1:03:46really, really excited about this.
1:03:46 > 1:03:49Here's Annita, in the BBC Newsroom, with a summary of today's news.
1:03:49 > 1:03:51Thank you, good morning.
1:03:51 > 1:03:53NHS figures show that 3,000 more nurses left the health service
1:03:53 > 1:03:55in England last year than joined.
1:03:55 > 1:03:58In each of the past three years, more than 10%
1:03:58 > 1:04:00of the nursing workforce left.
1:04:00 > 1:04:02The Government insists there are more nurses than in 2010,
1:04:02 > 1:04:07and that measures are being taken to retain experienced staff.
1:04:07 > 1:04:13One nurse told Victoria why she was planning -- planning to give up the
1:04:13 > 1:04:19career she used to look.I feel that the level of care that I am giving
1:04:19 > 1:04:22has been compromised. I work in a busy GP surgery, we literally have
1:04:22 > 1:04:28ten minutes to see patients. And now I feel that I am not being treated
1:04:28 > 1:04:33myself. -- true to myself.
1:04:33 > 1:04:35Documents seen by the BBC show the services and construction giant
1:04:35 > 1:04:38Carillion was left with just £29 million in cash when it
1:04:38 > 1:04:40collapsed on Monday, but owed more than £1.3 billion
1:04:40 > 1:04:41to its banks.
1:04:41 > 1:04:45The figures are shown in a company statement to the insolvency court.
1:04:45 > 1:04:47The revelations will worry businesses owed money by Carillion,
1:04:47 > 1:04:52one of the biggest public-sector contractors in the UK.
1:04:52 > 1:04:55Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across Scotland,
1:04:55 > 1:04:58Northern Ireland and Northern England.
1:04:58 > 1:05:02The main motorway between Scotland and England - the M74 -
1:05:02 > 1:05:05was closed in parts because of snow, and some drivers already on the road
1:05:05 > 1:05:06were stuck overnight.
1:05:06 > 1:05:09It's since re-opened.
1:05:09 > 1:05:11The Government's appointed a Minister for Loneliness,
1:05:11 > 1:05:15as part of a project championed by the murdered MP Jo Cox.
1:05:15 > 1:05:18Tracey Crouch, who's Civil Society Minister,
1:05:18 > 1:05:21will take on the role, to find ways of combating
1:05:21 > 1:05:26the isolation felt by millions of people across the UK.
1:05:26 > 1:05:32A Conservative MP has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012,
1:05:32 > 1:05:34suggesting that unemployed people on benefits should have vasectomies
1:05:34 > 1:05:36if they couldn't afford to have more children.
1:05:36 > 1:05:39Ben Bradley, who's 28, was made Conservative Vice-Chairman
1:05:39 > 1:05:46for Youth in Theresa May's reshuffle last week.
1:05:46 > 1:05:50The High Court is to hear a legal challenge against the Home Office,
1:05:50 > 1:05:52brought on behalf of women who were once involved
1:05:52 > 1:05:53in prostitution.
1:05:53 > 1:05:55They'll argue it's unlawful for details of their convictions
1:05:55 > 1:05:57for soliciting to be stored and disclosed to potential
1:05:57 > 1:05:59future employers.
1:05:59 > 1:06:01The Home and Away actress Jessica Falkholt has died
1:06:01 > 1:06:06from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago.
1:06:06 > 1:06:07The 29-year-old actress played Hope Morrison
1:06:07 > 1:06:13in the Australian series.
1:06:13 > 1:06:16The accident, in New South Wales on Boxing Day, had already
1:06:16 > 1:06:18killed her parents, sister and another driver.
1:06:18 > 1:06:21The Bayeux Tapestry is set to be displayed in Britain for the first
1:06:21 > 1:06:24time since it was made in the 11th Century.
1:06:24 > 1:06:26The French President, Emmanuel Macron, is due to confirm
1:06:26 > 1:06:28the loan when he meets Theresa May at Sandhurst tomorrow.
1:06:28 > 1:06:33It's not clear where, or when, the artwork will be displayed.
1:06:33 > 1:06:35That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
1:06:35 > 1:06:38More at 10:30.
1:06:38 > 1:06:41Thank you very much.
1:06:41 > 1:06:46Many comments from you, but yet again, my tablet has frozen. I will
1:06:46 > 1:06:51sort that and read that out. Really interested to hear from you if you
1:06:51 > 1:06:55are a nurse who has recently left the profession or considering it and
1:06:55 > 1:07:00the reasons why, and you work-life balance, have you achieved that? If
1:07:00 > 1:07:04so, how? Judging by your messages, plenty of you working crazy hours.
1:07:04 > 1:07:12Send me an e-mail or message is on Facebook or Twitter. Sport now.
1:07:12 > 1:07:15Leicester City's Kelechi Iheanacho scored the first goal in English
1:07:15 > 1:07:17football history to be awarded by VAR - the Video
1:07:17 > 1:07:20Assistant Referee.
1:07:20 > 1:07:24He scored both goals in the 2-0 third-round replay win over
1:07:24 > 1:07:29League One side Fleetwood Town.
1:07:29 > 1:07:36His second provided the slice of history.
1:07:36 > 1:07:41Originally ruled out for offside.
1:07:41 > 1:07:44The Video Assistant Referee thought it was worth checking on.
1:07:44 > 1:07:47And, as you can see, that was the right choice -
1:07:47 > 1:07:48the decision rightly overturned, to help Leicester
1:07:48 > 1:07:49ease into Round Four.
1:07:49 > 1:07:53We are a lot better from the first leg. We knew that we had to perform
1:07:53 > 1:07:55a lot better and be a bit more professional on the pitch. We have
1:07:55 > 1:07:58done that night and got the result. And this man has got the girls and
1:07:58 > 1:08:03it shows that VAR does work.
1:08:03 > 1:08:05They were joined by another Premier League side,
1:08:05 > 1:08:08in the shape of West Ham United, but they needed the full 120 minutes
1:08:08 > 1:08:10to get past Shrewsbury, another League 1 side.
1:08:10 > 1:08:12With Reece Burke scoring his first West Ham goal.
1:08:12 > 1:08:16Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday and Reading all went through as well.
1:08:16 > 1:08:19Well, I'm sure there's a little bit of disappointment not to see
1:08:19 > 1:08:22Andy Murray at the Australian Open but, so far, British Number 2
1:08:22 > 1:08:24Kyle Edmund is making it look like he's the former
1:08:24 > 1:08:28Grand Slam winner.
1:08:28 > 1:08:33He's reached Round 3.
1:08:33 > 1:08:35For the first time in Melbourne.
1:08:35 > 1:08:37Barely giving Denis Istomin a chance with in the 6-2 6-2
1:08:37 > 1:08:406-4 victory overnight, to back up that win over
1:08:40 > 1:08:42the number-11 seed in the opening round and a good chance
1:08:42 > 1:08:43to go even further.
1:08:43 > 1:08:48He'll take on Georgia's Nikoloz Basilashvili.
1:08:48 > 1:08:51He is joined by the 2009 champion, Rafa Nadal, who had a straight-sets
1:08:51 > 1:08:56victory of his own over Argentina's Leonardo Mayer.
1:08:56 > 1:09:02He reaches Round 3 for the 12th time in his career.
1:09:02 > 1:09:05On the women's side of things, Former World Number One Caroline
1:09:05 > 1:09:07Wozniacki had an incredible three-set win against Jana
1:09:07 > 1:09:09Fett, of Croatia.
1:09:09 > 1:09:12She saved two match points and came back from 5-1 down in the deciding
1:09:12 > 1:09:20set to make it into Round 3.
1:09:21 > 1:09:24But this was the winner of the day.
1:09:24 > 1:09:2615-year-old qualifier Marta Kostyuk is the youngest player to reach
1:09:26 > 1:09:29the third round at a Grand Slam in more than 20 years.
1:09:29 > 1:09:33The World Number 521 came past Olivia Rogowska in straight sets
1:09:33 > 1:09:36to face her fellow Ukranian - the fourth seed, Elina Svitolina -
1:09:36 > 1:09:44in the last 32.
1:09:45 > 1:09:49England's Rugby union head coach Eddie Jones has signed a contract
1:09:49 > 1:09:52extension to stay until 2020 on, but not beyond that. He took over just
1:09:52 > 1:09:59over two years ago, winning 22 of his 23 tests so far. His original
1:09:59 > 1:10:05deal would end after next year's Rugby World Cup in Japan. That is
1:10:05 > 1:10:08all the sport for now, more later on.
1:10:08 > 1:10:10Good morning, thank you for watching.
1:10:10 > 1:10:13When a child, or adult, who finds it hard to communicate
1:10:13 > 1:10:18appears in court, they can call on people called 'registered
1:10:18 > 1:10:19intermediaries' to help them give evidence.
1:10:19 > 1:10:22But there could be up to 250 children and vulnerable people every
1:10:22 > 1:10:26year missing out on this service.
1:10:26 > 1:10:29Let's speak now to our legal eagle, Clive Coleman.
1:10:29 > 1:10:33There has been a review, what does it say? This is by the Victims'
1:10:33 > 1:10:37Commissioner Baroness Newlove and it is currently a scheme rather than a
1:10:37 > 1:10:42service and she has found that around 250 children and vulnerable
1:10:42 > 1:10:47adults who need a registered in the mutually. Don't forget, going to
1:10:47 > 1:10:50court, the criminal justice system is bewildering for the best of us,
1:10:50 > 1:10:55but for the very young and vulnerable, it can be incredibly
1:10:55 > 1:11:00bewildering and difficult to unlock critical key evidence they may have.
1:11:00 > 1:11:04What registered intermediaries do, and they are specialists in
1:11:04 > 1:11:07communication, bassist police in something called the achieving best
1:11:07 > 1:11:11evidence interview, that is the first interview with the child or
1:11:11 > 1:11:16vulnerable witness -- they assist police. Baroness Newlove gives the
1:11:16 > 1:11:20example of a two-year-old who with the assistance of the registered
1:11:20 > 1:11:25intermediary could give an achieving the best evidence interview that led
1:11:25 > 1:11:29to her assailant, her attacker, and this was a sexual assault case,
1:11:29 > 1:11:34pleading guilty and getting ten years. It is astonishing, isn't it?
1:11:34 > 1:11:39It means this effectively is a voice for the voiceless. And it can be
1:11:39 > 1:11:44incredibly effective and without that, it can be that those
1:11:44 > 1:11:48witnesses, those victims, never get access to justice. This is the issue
1:11:48 > 1:11:54she has highlighted. First, 250 a year probably not getting that. It
1:11:54 > 1:11:58does not mean the cases will not go ahead, but it could be without a
1:11:58 > 1:12:02registered intermediary. The take-up is patchy so five times more likely
1:12:02 > 1:12:06in Cumbria to have a registered intermediary in the case compared
1:12:06 > 1:12:09with the Metropolitan Police force, Greater Manchester, and there are
1:12:09 > 1:12:14also issues with training, issues with payment. What Baroness Newlove
1:12:14 > 1:12:19is calling for is the creation of a National Service, to become part of
1:12:19 > 1:12:22the architecture of the criminal justice system, with a national lead
1:12:22 > 1:12:28to lobby government on behalf of registered intermediaries, to ensure
1:12:28 > 1:12:31that vulnerable people that need them get them. And there is a time
1:12:31 > 1:12:36lag of four weeks. This places police and prosecutors in a
1:12:36 > 1:12:39difficult position because you want the evidence as quickly as possible,
1:12:39 > 1:12:45to get it as fresh and possible, Sergei go on and just do the
1:12:45 > 1:12:49interviewing yourself or do you wait for the expert, the registered
1:12:49 > 1:12:53intermediary, to get on board and get a better quality of evidence? It
1:12:53 > 1:12:56is a really difficult problem and that is why she is calling for a
1:12:56 > 1:13:01National Service.Quick word from the Ministry of Justice?They say,
1:13:01 > 1:13:04we have doubled the scheme. We have increased the scheme. In recent
1:13:04 > 1:13:09times. And having said that, they will look very carefully at this
1:13:09 > 1:13:14report and study it.They give very much. -- thank you very much.
1:13:14 > 1:13:16Now we can speak to two registered intermediaries.
1:13:16 > 1:13:20Esther Rumble works with children or adults with learning
1:13:20 > 1:13:23difficulties, who witness an alleged sex offence.
1:13:23 > 1:13:25Naomi Mason, whose agency works with adult defendants
1:13:25 > 1:13:28with learning difficulties.
1:13:28 > 1:13:30And Jane, whose son has Asperger's Syndrome and had
1:13:30 > 1:13:34a registered intermediary when he gave evidence
1:13:34 > 1:13:38about a serious assault he suffered.
1:13:38 > 1:13:42Thank you very much, good morning. Jane, thank you so much for joining
1:13:42 > 1:13:50us. Tell us how the intermediary helped your son.Initially, she was
1:13:50 > 1:13:56introduced to us by the police, she was hand-picked specifically. And it
1:13:56 > 1:14:05took nearly two years for my son to gain the ability to speak to someone
1:14:05 > 1:14:11properly. She empowered him to have a voice and gave him support. To
1:14:11 > 1:14:16find a way forward and be believed. And without her, would this have
1:14:16 > 1:14:24been possible?No, not at all. Not at all, she was his strength and
1:14:24 > 1:14:32support.And I can feel it feels like you are emotional talking about
1:14:32 > 1:14:36this, can you tell is why?It was a very long case. We could not have
1:14:36 > 1:14:41done it without the police and the intermediary. And it gave us closure
1:14:41 > 1:14:48in a way that we would never have had if we had not had the
1:14:48 > 1:14:53intermediary. They are invaluable to people like ourselves. Very much
1:14:53 > 1:14:58required and needed, I believe. Thank you for sharing that, Jane.
1:14:58 > 1:15:03Can you give an example of the work you have done, Esther, which has led
1:15:03 > 1:15:08to a vulnerable or a young witness being able to give evidence?
1:15:08 > 1:15:14Absolutely. I am a speech and language therapist by profession. My
1:15:14 > 1:15:18day-to-day experience is working with children and adults whose
1:15:18 > 1:15:21communication is different. And that means I can talk to them in really
1:15:21 > 1:15:26simple words. And often, I have strategies which are second nature
1:15:26 > 1:15:31to me because of my training. So to change the length of a sentence, to
1:15:31 > 1:15:35help them sit down in a way that does not feel threatening or
1:15:35 > 1:15:41demanding. So I am thinking about a little girl I worked with who had
1:15:41 > 1:15:45been interviewed by the police. She was six. She had not had a
1:15:45 > 1:15:48registered intermediary with her and the officer really had to their
1:15:48 > 1:15:54best. But the result was a girl who really did not want to talk and was
1:15:54 > 1:16:04pretty much just curled up on a sofa in the interview suite.
1:16:04 > 1:16:09When I met her for the first time, it was in school, a comfortable
1:16:09 > 1:16:10environment, in a
1:16:10 > 1:16:11it was in school, a comfortable environment, in a room she liked and
1:16:11 > 1:16:16had chosen. I did a really simple but informed play -based assessment
1:16:16 > 1:16:21of her. I got a feel for where she was at with her language, her
1:16:21 > 1:16:24interest, what thoughts she could put into words and what things she
1:16:24 > 1:16:31needed help with. With the police officer's support and on video, we
1:16:31 > 1:16:35made little kind of setups of the places that she was going to be
1:16:35 > 1:16:39talking about so that she had something real in front of her and
1:16:39 > 1:16:43then when she was explaining what had happened, she could talk about
1:16:43 > 1:16:49where people were in dreams in the house, in beds who were there, and
1:16:49 > 1:16:54actually it led to a case where she gave evidence about things that had
1:16:54 > 1:16:58happened to her but also to her siblings, so it really opened a
1:16:58 > 1:17:08gateway.It is so significant. What about your examples?I am also a
1:17:08 > 1:17:15speech and language therapist but in the NHS, I worked with adults with
1:17:15 > 1:17:23learning difficulties and people with the autistic spectrum condition
1:17:23 > 1:17:27and one women with autistic spectrum to condition that I assessed, I
1:17:27 > 1:17:31found her understanding of language was very literal. We did a police
1:17:31 > 1:17:34interview and she had already told the police a little bit about what
1:17:34 > 1:17:39had happened, but during the interview, she was asked by the
1:17:39 > 1:17:44police officer, did he touch you on top of or underneath your bra? And
1:17:44 > 1:17:48she said, neither. And I looked at the police others as if to say,
1:17:48 > 1:17:52well, this is a bit odd. And I suddenly realised she had
1:17:52 > 1:17:58misunderstood that it wasn't on top of or underneath her bra, but by
1:17:58 > 1:18:02rephrasing inside or outside your bra, she was then able to get clear
1:18:02 > 1:18:06evidence. Had an intermediary not been there to clear up that
1:18:06 > 1:18:08misunderstanding, it may have sounded like a very different events
1:18:08 > 1:18:13had taken place.And it would appear that according to Baroness new love,
1:18:13 > 1:18:19there are some people who would really benefit from your help, your
1:18:19 > 1:18:23services, but they are just not getting access because of this
1:18:23 > 1:18:30postcode lottery around the country. Would you agree with that?
1:18:30 > 1:18:34Absolutely. Quite often when I work with somebody they say, well, I wish
1:18:34 > 1:18:38I had had you last week or the week before. And police officers suddenly
1:18:38 > 1:18:41realise there are lots of cases where they may have been able to get
1:18:41 > 1:18:44much better evidence had they had an intermediary helping them at the
1:18:44 > 1:18:50interview stage. One of my concerns is that in the 12 years I have been
1:18:50 > 1:18:53a registered intermediary, things have changed considerably, in that
1:18:53 > 1:18:59we used to be involved far more at the police stage and involved in the
1:18:59 > 1:19:06interview. Now, it's very often that we are not involved until... Sorry,
1:19:06 > 1:19:19the achieving best interests -- achieving best results interview.
1:19:19 > 1:19:24Now, we are generally that at trial stage. Maybe it is to do with police
1:19:24 > 1:19:30funding that we are not called upon sooner but that must be cases where
1:19:30 > 1:19:38the interview is not as good as it could have been and then it doesn't
1:19:38 > 1:19:41go to trial because the interview is not as good as it could have been.I
1:19:41 > 1:19:45have had a couple of really good practical world like that where the
1:19:45 > 1:19:49case was not going to proceed and it was my report where I was able to
1:19:49 > 1:19:52explain what the person was able to deal with their language that made
1:19:52 > 1:19:56sense of what had happened to them, the case proceeded to court and
1:19:56 > 1:20:02actually the guy pleaded guilty -- guilty before we got to court.That
1:20:02 > 1:20:06was a great result. Thank you both, thank you for talking to our
1:20:06 > 1:20:10audience about your work, and Jane, thank you for talking about your
1:20:10 > 1:20:16experience and your son's. After 1030, we were victims, not
1:20:16 > 1:20:21offenders. We speak to a woman who used to be involved in prostitution.
1:20:21 > 1:20:25She says her previous convictions are stopping her from getting a job
1:20:25 > 1:20:29and her legal case starts today. Next, let's bring you up-to-date
1:20:29 > 1:20:35with the story we covered yesterday about protesters outside and
1:20:35 > 1:20:41abortion clinic in West London.
1:20:41 > 1:20:42The demonstrators are accused of "harassing" women attending
1:20:42 > 1:20:44the Marie Stopes clinic in Ealing.
1:20:44 > 1:20:46Last night, councillors unanimously agreed to begin
1:20:46 > 1:20:49a consultation on whether to bring in a Public Space Protection Order -
1:20:49 > 1:20:54known as a PSPO - to create a 'safe zone' at the clinic.
1:20:54 > 1:20:57If it's granted, it would be the first time it's been used
1:20:57 > 1:20:58in a situation involving an abortion clinic.
1:20:58 > 1:21:01Let's hear a little from our discussion on the programme
1:21:01 > 1:21:04yesterday, when a nurse and manager from the Ealing centre described
1:21:04 > 1:21:09what his clients were experiencing.
1:21:09 > 1:21:12They tell us what they have experienced, that they have been
1:21:12 > 1:21:16called murderers, they have had their paths blocked, they have felt
1:21:16 > 1:21:20judged and shamed and we see it happening not only on the way in but
1:21:20 > 1:21:24on the way out as well, which is how we know that this is not about
1:21:24 > 1:21:28providing information and support, it's about making people feel
1:21:28 > 1:21:31ashamed, scared and intimidated about accessing treatment that they
1:21:31 > 1:21:35have in most cases thought long and hard about and come to a firm
1:21:35 > 1:21:43decision.You have cameras outside? It focuses on our property. We
1:21:43 > 1:21:50cannot fill beyond that because it's a public area.The area is a step
1:21:50 > 1:21:56closer. Ealing Council will decide tonight. What effect do you think
1:21:56 > 1:22:00this could have on the Ealing clinic if it were brought in?It would be
1:22:00 > 1:22:04an incredible day for us to know that our patients were coming into
1:22:04 > 1:22:08the clinic free from that experience on the way in and on the way out. It
1:22:08 > 1:22:10would unfortunately create a bit of a postcode lottery where it's
1:22:10 > 1:22:15something that people can enjoy in Ealing, but it's happening outside
1:22:15 > 1:22:19clinics across the country. But it's an important first step and we would
1:22:19 > 1:22:24welcome it.Clare, you have been going to the clinic and standing
1:22:24 > 1:22:28outside for several years, taking part individuals. The last time --
1:22:28 > 1:22:37taking part in the jewels. The last time we spoke to, you denied taking
1:22:37 > 1:22:43part in the things we are hearing from the nurse from the clinic. Is
1:22:43 > 1:22:52he lying?Unfortunately, yes.How do you respond to that?I think
1:22:52 > 1:22:55unfortunately there has been a lot of denial about how this affects our
1:22:55 > 1:23:01clients, we hear it from our patients and from neighbours who
1:23:01 > 1:23:05phone us and say they can see people outside distressed. Officers from
1:23:05 > 1:23:10the council have heard it from women that they themselves have felt
1:23:10 > 1:23:14intimidated on the way in.Claire, you wouldn't know the impact on some
1:23:14 > 1:23:18of the patients because once they are inside, you don't see them, so
1:23:18 > 1:23:23you have no idea what impact you are having on those people.When you
1:23:23 > 1:23:27stand outside an abortion centre for 20 years, and many other women who
1:23:27 > 1:23:32come with us are women who have had abortions, women who have been
1:23:32 > 1:23:35through abortion centres, who have been passed people like us
1:23:35 > 1:23:42themselves who didn't maybe agree us at the time but now come have a good
1:23:42 > 1:23:46idea of how we feel.But do you accept that however you are doing
1:23:46 > 1:23:50it, but some women and their partners, once you get inside the
1:23:50 > 1:23:54Marie Stopes clinic, they are upset, distressed, angry at you, not that
1:23:54 > 1:23:59there are a decision to have a termination.I think abortion is
1:23:59 > 1:24:07something that upsets women a lot. It can take a sentenced to answer a
1:24:07 > 1:24:11question. I accept that some women who are already upset at a horrible
1:24:11 > 1:24:14decision they feel they are having to take do not like our presence
1:24:14 > 1:24:19there.I accept that. Obviously we will keep you up-to-date on that
1:24:19 > 1:24:26decision. More news from the council, we will bring it to you.
1:24:26 > 1:24:30Hundreds of thousands of us are working crazy hours.
1:24:30 > 1:24:33One in eight of us works more than 48 hours every week according
1:24:33 > 1:24:36to analysis of Government data for this programme by the TUC.
1:24:36 > 1:24:39It's bad for us, but it could also be bad for business.
1:24:39 > 1:24:41We've spoken to a number of companies who have actually
1:24:41 > 1:24:43seen productivity rise when they give their
1:24:43 > 1:24:44staff more time off.
1:24:44 > 1:24:47Our report Michael Cowan has been to meet the companies pioneering
1:24:47 > 1:24:48new approaches to improve work-life balance...
1:24:48 > 1:24:51We brought you his full film earlier. Here is a short extract
1:24:51 > 1:24:53before we talk about this.
1:24:53 > 1:24:56Eight hours labour, eight hours recreation and eight hours rest -
1:24:56 > 1:24:58that was the ethos of industrialist Robert Owen in 1817.
1:24:58 > 1:25:01And for much of the last two centuries, we haven't
1:25:01 > 1:25:02deviated from his vision.
1:25:02 > 1:25:05But for many, the work-life balance has become a little bit unbalanced.
1:25:05 > 1:25:11But some companies are drastically changing the way we work.
1:25:12 > 1:25:15We start in London, at a design company called Normally,
1:25:15 > 1:25:18who believe a four-day week is the key to their
1:25:18 > 1:25:21company's success.
1:25:21 > 1:25:25We've observed that lots of people wait for their whole life for that
1:25:25 > 1:25:27big moment when they retire.
1:25:27 > 1:25:30But we've seen that in a few cases, that never happens,
1:25:30 > 1:25:32because you get ill, or you, you know,
1:25:32 > 1:25:33you're older by then.
1:25:33 > 1:25:35You're not as agile.
1:25:35 > 1:25:38You don't have the energy to really appreciate that time any more.
1:25:38 > 1:25:39Maybe we can just flip that round.
1:25:39 > 1:25:43Maybe we can just take that time and move it forward,
1:25:43 > 1:25:46and give it back to ourselves and our employees.
1:25:46 > 1:25:51And so that's when we decided, we're going to go for a four-day week.
1:25:51 > 1:25:54But on a larger scale, are there any economic benefits?
1:25:54 > 1:25:58Do longer working hours lead to greater productivity?
1:25:58 > 1:26:02In the UK, we have a bit of a puzzle when it comes to our productivity.
1:26:02 > 1:26:04Workers in Germany, for example, can actually stop working
1:26:04 > 1:26:09on a Thursday and yet still produce more than we do.
1:26:09 > 1:26:11So therefore, greater and longer working hours doesn't necessarily
1:26:11 > 1:26:13mean that we're more productive.
1:26:13 > 1:26:15Especially when it negatively impacts our health and our
1:26:15 > 1:26:18ability to do our job.
1:26:18 > 1:26:21Over a year ago, a marketing firm in Glasgow thought they'd
1:26:21 > 1:26:22trial a four-day week.
1:26:22 > 1:26:25The results surprised them because not only did working less
1:26:25 > 1:26:28maximise productivity, it also boosted profits.
1:26:28 > 1:26:32When did you decide to move to a four-day week?
1:26:32 > 1:26:34We ran a trial of different kind of flexible working patterns
1:26:34 > 1:26:37and in the three months that we ran that programme, the people
1:26:37 > 1:26:41working the four-day week were the most productive.
1:26:41 > 1:26:44From a business perspective, what are the benefits?
1:26:44 > 1:26:49So, productivity increased initially by about 38%.
1:26:49 > 1:26:52And over the last year or so, it's settled down to about 30% overall.
1:26:52 > 1:26:55Our business has grown substantially.
1:26:55 > 1:26:58We entered 2017 on 2.2 million turnover.
1:26:58 > 1:27:02We entered 2018 in a 5-million turnover a year.
1:27:02 > 1:27:04Do you envisage a time where you would revert
1:27:04 > 1:27:05back to a five-day week?
1:27:05 > 1:27:07Definitely not.
1:27:07 > 1:27:09But one size doesn't fit all.
1:27:09 > 1:27:11This is Agent Marketing, in Liverpool.
1:27:11 > 1:27:15They have a company dog and bikes to ride to meetings on.
1:27:15 > 1:27:19And two years ago, they trialled a six-hour day.
1:27:19 > 1:27:21It didn't quite work for your business, it didn't quite
1:27:21 > 1:27:29work for your clients, which you think that was?
1:27:31 > 1:27:32-- why do you think that was?
1:27:32 > 1:27:36We always said that when we did the trial, the most important thing
1:27:36 > 1:27:38was obviously that client work would not suffer.
1:27:38 > 1:27:41We would always meet deadlines.
1:27:41 > 1:27:43And if we had to sacrifice a six-hour working day some days,
1:27:43 > 1:27:45to meet deadlines, we would do that.
1:27:45 > 1:27:48So how we do it now is, we have two shorter days.
1:27:48 > 1:27:51So we finish, we do a six-hour day on a Friday and then one
1:27:51 > 1:27:54day in the week based on deadlines and workload.
1:27:54 > 1:27:56All the businesses we met had one thing in common -
1:27:56 > 1:27:57they weren't afraid to experiment.
1:27:57 > 1:28:00And whether they were successful or not, their sheer willingness
1:28:00 > 1:28:02to try new things is what's going to drive forward innovation,
1:28:02 > 1:28:05and that will create a better work-life balance for workers
1:28:05 > 1:28:07across the country.
1:28:07 > 1:28:10Let's talk to Naomi Gilmour, who used to run a million pound
1:28:10 > 1:28:13business that made her ill; Elizabeth Varley who worked 90 hour
1:28:13 > 1:28:17weeks when she set up her business TechHub;
1:28:17 > 1:28:19and Chris Shalliker who works for Northern Gas and Power,
1:28:19 > 1:28:27which is trying to improve its staff's work life balance.
1:28:27 > 1:28:33In what sort of way, Chris?What would you say? Already, I would say
1:28:33 > 1:28:36that Northern gas and power started as two people in a bedroom and one
1:28:36 > 1:28:43of the nice things that have happened is as new people have
1:28:43 > 1:28:46joined, they have become friends and we have maintained that feel within
1:28:46 > 1:28:55the business, even now.So the buses are nice?Yes. When we have events,
1:28:55 > 1:29:00everyone is involved. We have full staff meetings, all our senior
1:29:00 > 1:29:04managers and directors are on the floor amongst everyone else. There's
1:29:04 > 1:29:07not so much a duty of care but a genuine care around people because
1:29:07 > 1:29:15we all know each other really well. So how long are the hours though?
1:29:15 > 1:29:19Our hours RE standard 9-5. If somebody has something to finish,
1:29:19 > 1:29:24obviously you would expect them to finish it, however, what I would say
1:29:24 > 1:29:29is that our guys really push themselves very hard, because they
1:29:29 > 1:29:34get so much back in reward from that as well. And what happens in your
1:29:34 > 1:29:399-5 like Willow was affect what happens outside and vice versa.
1:29:39 > 1:29:44Naomi, this business that you used to run that ended up with a lot of
1:29:44 > 1:29:51stress for you, how many hours a week and why?OK, so, I don't know
1:29:51 > 1:29:57exact hours but I know I was working seven hours a day 20 47, so probably
1:29:57 > 1:30:03hour days, pretty much seven days a week. It had a massive impact on me
1:30:03 > 1:30:08and my life and my kind of balance. I had two small children at the
1:30:08 > 1:30:15time. The business actually ended up closing back in 2009.After that,
1:30:15 > 1:30:19you started up another company. Why? You hadn't learned your lesson!
1:30:19 > 1:30:23Obviously you've got to work, but go on, what did you do differently the
1:30:23 > 1:30:28second time?
1:30:28 > 1:30:34I set up a business that allowed me to be with my children and also, to
1:30:34 > 1:30:40do what I love. I help businesses create online presence, I am a web
1:30:40 > 1:30:46designer and I help people succeed online, something that I am good at.
1:30:46 > 1:30:52I work predominantly with women in business who have the same
1:30:52 > 1:30:56challenges of being there for our children, being a mother and also
1:30:56 > 1:31:01having successful business.Let me read out the messages before I bring
1:31:01 > 1:31:05in Elizabeth. Dave says, when I was with a communication company, I did
1:31:05 > 1:31:11ten hours a day, but the big bonus was a day of each week and two every
1:31:11 > 1:31:16fourth week. The team agreed this gave them more quality family time.
1:31:16 > 1:31:20This says, I used to work in a bakery, 16 hour days six days a
1:31:20 > 1:31:24week. I was fortunate and I loved the work with a passion. One guy was
1:31:24 > 1:31:29does not always mean you hate it. Declan says, what about those in
1:31:29 > 1:31:32service industries and labour-intensive jobs? I sort of
1:31:32 > 1:31:37this jobs in your report. Millions that could not afford had a 40 hour
1:31:37 > 1:31:42wage for a 32 hour week, their point. And Karen says, much more
1:31:42 > 1:31:45needs to be discussed about work-life balance but each is, it
1:31:45 > 1:31:49does not exist. I spent six hours every day planning and assessing on
1:31:49 > 1:31:53top of teaching six hours every day. When it comes to being
1:31:53 > 1:31:57self-employed, do you think you have to sacrifice the lives side of it,
1:31:57 > 1:32:02the quality family time?I think it really depends what you were doing.
1:32:02 > 1:32:08There is a difference between being self-employed as a freelance
1:32:08 > 1:32:13employer and creating a business you intend to grow. And you can do very
1:32:13 > 1:32:17longer hours in both. But when you are trying to make something new and
1:32:17 > 1:32:22put that out to the world, you really have to be very focused on
1:32:22 > 1:32:27what you are doing. And we work with other early stage technology
1:32:27 > 1:32:33companies to help them do the same thing. We see it again and again
1:32:33 > 1:32:36with founders excited about putting something new out to the world. And
1:32:36 > 1:32:42that is one reason why they work so hard.So they are prepared to make
1:32:42 > 1:32:45sacrifices, certainly in the early stages, that would make sense.And
1:32:45 > 1:32:49your founders did the same? Yes, of course, if you start a business with
1:32:49 > 1:32:54just two business people, you work the hours you can. As that goes,
1:32:54 > 1:32:59maybe you can take your pot off the gas a bit. We do push our guys
1:32:59 > 1:33:03harder to read a week from nine to five, but you look every month and
1:33:03 > 1:33:11everybody its targets. -- hard every week. Our guys are that good. We
1:33:11 > 1:33:17have movie and pizza Fridays every month. Does anyone go?The entire
1:33:17 > 1:33:22office! So it is not after work. Every quarter, we have a Benz
1:33:22 > 1:33:28everybody goes to which are fantastic. We had wild raves.That
1:33:28 > 1:33:38is very 90s!And we get December off on top of your holidays.So you are
1:33:38 > 1:33:43working extra hard in the months up to that?Yes, everybody pushes
1:33:43 > 1:33:46really hard, but there are rewards on top of your salary and the other
1:33:46 > 1:33:52benefits they get.Quick final word, Naomi, your advice to everybody
1:33:52 > 1:33:58working crazy hours from your own experience?I would say to step away
1:33:58 > 1:34:02and take a bit of self care as well, especially when it is your business,
1:34:02 > 1:34:07you cannot look after yourself, you experience burn-out and if you do,
1:34:07 > 1:34:11you cannot serve your customers because the business is you. So it
1:34:11 > 1:34:15is totally about creating those boundaries for your own life.By the
1:34:15 > 1:34:22word from you, Elizabeth?In the early days, expecting to spend all
1:34:22 > 1:34:25your time and focusing on something is fine and that is great, but you
1:34:25 > 1:34:29also need to take holidays and weekends and evenings, which you
1:34:29 > 1:34:33don't do at the beginning. And really be able to rely on your team.
1:34:33 > 1:34:37We have an incredible team and makes a huge difference to an entrepreneur
1:34:37 > 1:34:43in terms of doing a lot and being able to take more time.Thank you.
1:34:43 > 1:34:49Your messages are very welcome, if you have achieved work-life balance.
1:34:49 > 1:34:51Still to come in the programme.
1:34:51 > 1:34:53Could a simple, cheap and harmless drink during labour reduce
1:34:53 > 1:34:59the number of emergency caesareans?
1:34:59 > 1:35:01This is such an interesting story.
1:35:01 > 1:35:08Experts at the University of Liverpool have been looking into it.
1:35:08 > 1:35:12We will find out more.
1:35:12 > 1:35:15NHS figures show that 3,000 more nurses left the health service
1:35:15 > 1:35:19in England last year than joined.
1:35:19 > 1:35:21In each of the past three years, more than 10%
1:35:21 > 1:35:22of the nursing workforce left.
1:35:22 > 1:35:28The Government insists there are more nurses than in 2010 -
1:35:28 > 1:35:31and that measures are being taken to retain experienced staff.
1:35:31 > 1:35:34Documents seen by the BBC show the services and construction giant
1:35:34 > 1:35:37Carillion was left with just £29 million in cash when it
1:35:37 > 1:35:39collapsed on Monday, but owed more than £1.3
1:35:39 > 1:35:40billion to its banks.
1:35:40 > 1:35:43The figures are shown in a company statement to the insolvency court.
1:35:43 > 1:35:45The revelations will worry businesses owed money by Carillion,
1:35:45 > 1:35:49one of the biggest public-sector contractors in the UK.
1:35:49 > 1:35:52Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across Scotland,
1:35:52 > 1:35:53Northern Ireland and Northern England.
1:35:53 > 1:35:56The main motorway between Scotland and England - the M74 -
1:35:56 > 1:35:59was closed in parts because of snow, and some drivers already on the road
1:35:59 > 1:36:00were stuck overnight.
1:36:00 > 1:36:08It's since re-opened.
1:36:10 > 1:36:13The Home and Away actress Jessica Falkholt has died
1:36:13 > 1:36:16from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago.
1:36:16 > 1:36:17The 29-year-old actress played Hope Morrison
1:36:17 > 1:36:20in the Australian series.
1:36:20 > 1:36:22The accident, in New South Wales on Boxing Day, had already
1:36:22 > 1:36:30killed her parents, sister and the other driver.
1:36:32 > 1:36:36The sport now. Hello again.
1:36:36 > 1:36:41At the Australian Open tennis, there's been another good win
1:36:41 > 1:36:42for British Number Two Kyle Edmund.
1:36:42 > 1:36:45He cruised past Denis Istomin in straight sets to reach
1:36:45 > 1:36:48the Third Round for the first time.
1:36:48 > 1:36:51But the win of the day went to 15-year-old Marta Kostyuk -
1:36:51 > 1:36:54she's the youngest player to reach the third round at a Grand Slam
1:36:54 > 1:36:59in more than 20 years, after coming past Olivia Rogowska.
1:36:59 > 1:37:02It's been announced this morning that Eddie Jones has signed
1:37:02 > 1:37:04a two-year contract extension to stay as England's
1:37:04 > 1:37:05Rugby Union Head Coach.
1:37:05 > 1:37:07His contract was due to end after next year's
1:37:07 > 1:37:10World Cup in Japan.
1:37:10 > 1:37:13There was a piece of English footballing history last night,
1:37:13 > 1:37:15as the VAR system was responsible for awarding a goal
1:37:15 > 1:37:17for the first time.
1:37:17 > 1:37:20It came in Leicester City's 2-0 win over Fleetwood Town in their FA Cup
1:37:20 > 1:37:22third-round replay.
1:37:22 > 1:37:27That is all the board for now, I will be back with more at 11
1:37:27 > 1:37:35o'clock. Thanks.
1:37:35 > 1:37:40Back to the news that Carillion owed enormous amounts and did not have
1:37:40 > 1:37:45much money in the bank, what do the figures tell us?What a dire state
1:37:45 > 1:37:50Carillion was in when it went into insolvency on Monday. The only had
1:37:50 > 1:37:54£29 million, this is a multi-billion pound company. That is all the money
1:37:54 > 1:37:58they had. It was so little that they could not even stump up the fees
1:37:58 > 1:38:02that you need in order to start going through the insolvency
1:38:02 > 1:38:06process. That is something the Government had to provide. And on
1:38:06 > 1:38:11the debt site, they owed the banks £1.3 billion, which they could not
1:38:11 > 1:38:16service. Adding in other things, other ways in which they were in
1:38:16 > 1:38:21hock to the banks, it was over £2 billion.And that does not include
1:38:21 > 1:38:27the deficit in the pension bond?No, that is not like a bank debt, it is
1:38:27 > 1:38:33a long-term liability they could not meet. Although that was put at
1:38:33 > 1:38:37nearly £600 million, the pension protection fund which is going to
1:38:37 > 1:38:40have to take on the pensioners and pay their pensions in the long run,
1:38:40 > 1:38:46it says it looks more like a £900 million deficit. So huge gaps here.
1:38:46 > 1:38:51And if you read through the court documents that have come out since
1:38:51 > 1:38:55yesterday evening about this process, you can see how difficult a
1:38:55 > 1:38:59job it is going to be to work through this business and sort out
1:38:59 > 1:39:04what can survive, what jobs can survive, what work you can carry on.
1:39:04 > 1:39:09Where there is a customer who still wants work. There are hundreds of
1:39:09 > 1:39:14contracts. All Carillion was, in a sense, was a big organisation that
1:39:14 > 1:39:18signed the contracts to provide services and build things and bombed
1:39:18 > 1:39:22out those contracts to smaller suppliers. It is those connections
1:39:22 > 1:39:26that have to be remade now. What is going to happen today? The
1:39:26 > 1:39:30Government said they were giving 48 hours from Monday, said that is
1:39:30 > 1:39:37right now. The carry on supporting where Carillion's business was
1:39:37 > 1:39:41entirely in the private sector. It was doing cleaning and maintenance
1:39:41 > 1:39:44work for private sector customers. And the Government said it would
1:39:44 > 1:39:47carry on supporting the public sector work, so in schools and
1:39:47 > 1:39:52hospitals. And so people on tenterhooks to find out what the 48
1:39:52 > 1:39:57hours means. Whether work will to stop at the minute. My impression
1:39:57 > 1:40:00from speaking to the insolvency service is that they do not see this
1:40:00 > 1:40:04as a deadline as a cliff edge. Those contracts I mentioned, they are
1:40:04 > 1:40:10working through them. Over the next days, we will get more clarity, but
1:40:10 > 1:40:14today, we will hear again about businesses having to stop work and
1:40:14 > 1:40:17lay people off, some talking about having to go into insolvency
1:40:17 > 1:40:21themselves because they cannot carry on without their business with
1:40:21 > 1:40:26Carillion. So goes all.Rees are still coming through. Thank you,
1:40:26 > 1:40:31Simon.
1:40:31 > 1:40:34Last summer, we first brought you news that women who used to be
1:40:34 > 1:40:36involved in prostitution were going to try and change the law
1:40:36 > 1:40:39so that they wouldn't have to disclose their past criminal
1:40:39 > 1:40:41convictions - disclosures they told us which were
1:40:41 > 1:40:49stopping them getting jobs.
1:40:51 > 1:40:53They argue as teenagers, they were victims, not offenders.
1:40:53 > 1:40:56Today, the judicial review begins.
1:40:56 > 1:40:58I've speaking to one of those bringing the case today -
1:40:58 > 1:41:00Fiona Broadfoot, who has 50 convictions, and her
1:41:00 > 1:41:01lawyer, Harriet Wistrich.
1:41:01 > 1:41:04Well, as a child, I was convicted as a common prostitute.
1:41:04 > 1:41:06I was introduced to prostitution by a pimp.
1:41:06 > 1:41:10A much older man, who groomed me and trafficked me from the North
1:41:10 > 1:41:12down to London and coerced me onto the street, into
1:41:12 > 1:41:19prostitution on the streets.
1:41:19 > 1:41:21So, as a result of that, I became very entrenched
1:41:21 > 1:41:24and have a catalogue of criminal offences against me that,
1:41:24 > 1:41:3230 years down the line, are still impacting on my life.
1:41:34 > 1:41:35In what way?
1:41:35 > 1:41:39Well, it's...
1:41:39 > 1:41:42I feel disgusted and humiliated and degraded having to expose my past,
1:41:42 > 1:41:49which was actually abusive.
1:41:49 > 1:41:55And, you know, I don't think it's a criminal record.
1:41:55 > 1:41:56To me, it's a catalogue of abuse.
1:41:56 > 1:41:58Right.
1:41:58 > 1:42:02It's eight-page, double sided, you know?
1:42:02 > 1:42:09And every time I have to present that to potential employers,
1:42:11 > 1:42:14or when my son was at school, to the parents and teachers,
1:42:14 > 1:42:17to the headteacher, it brings back, it triggers a lot of trauma
1:42:17 > 1:42:20and doesn't help me to move on.
1:42:20 > 1:42:23And interestingly, I don't believe any of the men who ever bought
1:42:23 > 1:42:26and sold me as a child have ever been criminalised.
1:42:26 > 1:42:31That's where I think we should be focusing our attention.
1:42:31 > 1:42:34And the point is, when you apply for a job - whoever it's with,
1:42:34 > 1:42:37but particularly if it's working with children - you have to talk
1:42:37 > 1:42:40about these multiple convictions from three decades ago.
1:42:40 > 1:42:41That's right, yeah.
1:42:41 > 1:42:44What is the reaction when that happens?
1:42:44 > 1:42:45It's mixed.
1:42:45 > 1:42:49Some people find me inspirational and are quite supportive.
1:42:49 > 1:42:52But recently, I had to sit and explain my criminal record
1:42:52 > 1:42:56for over an hour to two senior people in an area that
1:42:56 > 1:42:59I was commissioned to do some work, and I literally had to go
1:42:59 > 1:43:07through my story, my history of abuse.
1:43:13 > 1:43:16That's really humiliating.
1:43:16 > 1:43:19I'm nearly 50 years old and I want to be able to live
1:43:19 > 1:43:23a life free of that abuse.
1:43:23 > 1:43:26It's OK people suggesting that I move on, but it's very difficult
1:43:26 > 1:43:28when you've got that around your neck, sort of thing.
1:43:28 > 1:43:31You know?
1:43:31 > 1:43:32And part of your legal argument...
1:43:32 > 1:43:35The hearing begins today.
1:43:35 > 1:43:38We'll find out whether there'll be a judicial review of this.
1:43:38 > 1:43:41The legal argument is that you believe this requirement
1:43:41 > 1:43:43to disclose these kind of convictions is
1:43:43 > 1:43:44discriminatory against women.
1:43:44 > 1:43:46Yes, it is.
1:43:46 > 1:43:52It is actually a full judicial review hearing today.
1:43:52 > 1:43:56We're arguing that it is discriminatory against women
1:43:56 > 1:43:59because 98% of people who have convictions for soliciting
1:43:59 > 1:44:07are women, and because over two thirds of jobs, types of positions
1:44:10 > 1:44:15that you might apply for, are ones performed by women, so it has
1:44:15 > 1:44:19a sort of double-whammy effect.
1:44:19 > 1:44:21We're also arguing that it's contrary to our human rights
1:44:21 > 1:44:24obligations in respect of trafficking, because so many
1:44:24 > 1:44:26women like Fiona has described who have these,
1:44:26 > 1:44:29who were in street prostitution, were subject to coercion
1:44:29 > 1:44:35or control, or moved around the country, exploited.
1:44:35 > 1:44:37And that's key because there will be people watching who say,
1:44:37 > 1:44:40well, why is this past conviction any different from a past conviction
1:44:40 > 1:44:42for theft or any other crime?
1:44:42 > 1:44:45And what you're arguing is, you were not an offender,
1:44:45 > 1:44:46you were a victim.
1:44:46 > 1:44:47Exactly.
1:44:47 > 1:44:50Exactly, precisely.
1:44:50 > 1:44:53And now, we've moved forward a long way.
1:44:53 > 1:44:56There is a greater understanding about the process of grooming
1:44:56 > 1:44:59and about the way in which young women are kind of controlled
1:44:59 > 1:45:03and brought into prostitution.
1:45:03 > 1:45:07And we don't now see that as criminal activity.
1:45:07 > 1:45:13We see those women as victims of crime.
1:45:13 > 1:45:17And those from the past who are still being penalised,
1:45:17 > 1:45:20effectively, for something that happened so long ago, you know,
1:45:20 > 1:45:23it's a gross human-rights violation and it's one that we think has
1:45:23 > 1:45:26to come to an end.
1:45:26 > 1:45:29And we believe there is wide support for that.
1:45:29 > 1:45:32So there is a debate about prostitution and whether it
1:45:32 > 1:45:38should be legalised, criminalised or what should happen,
1:45:38 > 1:45:45but across the board, there is almost total unity
1:45:45 > 1:45:47that this is no longer necessary to penalise.
1:45:47 > 1:45:49You know, there is an understanding that these women are
1:45:49 > 1:45:51effectively victims.
1:45:51 > 1:45:53OK.
1:45:53 > 1:45:57What do you say, Fiona, to a potential employer
1:45:57 > 1:46:00who might say, actually, I don't want somebody who used to be
1:46:00 > 1:46:02involved in prostitution working in my school,
1:46:02 > 1:46:08organisation, working at my charity now?
1:46:08 > 1:46:11Well, I'd say that I've managed to be a really good mum.
1:46:11 > 1:46:13I've got a really lovely 20-year-old son, who's a really
1:46:13 > 1:46:14decent member of society.
1:46:14 > 1:46:18Respectful.
1:46:18 > 1:46:21I actually work in a youth club in the community that
1:46:21 > 1:46:23I was brought up in.
1:46:23 > 1:46:27I've set up an organisation to prevent sexual violence
1:46:27 > 1:46:29and abuse of girls and women.
1:46:29 > 1:46:33And it's an empowerment programme.
1:46:33 > 1:46:35And I have a fantastic relationship with them young
1:46:35 > 1:46:38people, and their parents.
1:46:38 > 1:46:41And they're all behind this campaign too.
1:46:41 > 1:46:44So I think people need to be...
1:46:44 > 1:46:47Before they start judging, I think they need to really inform
1:46:47 > 1:46:50themselves about the realities of prostitution, what really goes
1:46:50 > 1:46:53on, and maybe look at some of the men in their organisations
1:46:53 > 1:46:57and ask, do they buy sex?
1:46:57 > 1:47:01Do they, you know, support that life?
1:47:01 > 1:47:05Because the men are hidden.
1:47:05 > 1:47:07How old were you when you are first arrested?
1:47:07 > 1:47:09I was 16 and a half.
1:47:09 > 1:47:12I'd been missing from home 18 months.
1:47:12 > 1:47:13Wow.
1:47:13 > 1:47:15And you were arrested?
1:47:15 > 1:47:18I was arrested.
1:47:18 > 1:47:20I was bailed to my pimp's parents' address.
1:47:20 > 1:47:23And, erm...
1:47:23 > 1:47:25Was the pimp there when you were arrested?
1:47:25 > 1:47:27Yes.
1:47:27 > 1:47:30He was stood with me and they used first-name terms
1:47:30 > 1:47:31with him that night, the Vice Squad.
1:47:31 > 1:47:33So he was a very well-known perpetrator.
1:47:33 > 1:47:34He wasn't arrested?
1:47:34 > 1:47:35No.
1:47:35 > 1:47:38He's never been arrested.
1:47:38 > 1:47:42And that's something that a lot of the other women say,
1:47:42 > 1:47:44that they're the ones that were constantly being arrested.
1:47:44 > 1:47:50And the pimps and the perpetrators and those men who were abusing them,
1:47:50 > 1:47:56you know, who beat them and raped them, were not arrested.
1:47:56 > 1:48:01So, I mean, it's a completely skewed...
1:48:01 > 1:48:04The system wasn't working then, it's not working now.
1:48:04 > 1:48:07And we need to recognise - who are the real victims here?
1:48:07 > 1:48:10And change the system.
1:48:10 > 1:48:14This is a very important challenge.
1:48:14 > 1:48:18It comes on the back of other challenges about criminal records.
1:48:18 > 1:48:20But this case raises some issues particular to exploitation
1:48:20 > 1:48:25and street prostitution.
1:48:25 > 1:48:26Thank you, both.
1:48:26 > 1:48:28Thank you very much for talking to us.
1:48:28 > 1:48:29Thank you.
1:48:29 > 1:48:35Thank you.
1:48:35 > 1:48:39That judicial review will ask for one and a half days. It starts
1:48:39 > 1:48:44today. We will of course bring you its outcome. Now, this is really
1:48:44 > 1:48:48interesting. A new study suggests that women who are failing to
1:48:48 > 1:48:57progress when in Labour could reduce their chances of an emergency
1:48:57 > 1:49:04Caesarean by drinking a simple drink. Please tell us more.OK, good
1:49:04 > 1:49:09morning, Victoria. Yes, so, our scientific research carried out at
1:49:09 > 1:49:13the University of Liverpool showed that women who were having failure
1:49:13 > 1:49:17to progress labours, and these are the ones that then end up with the
1:49:17 > 1:49:24only way to deliver the baby is to have emergency surgery, the
1:49:24 > 1:49:27emergency C-section, and what we found that was in that group of
1:49:27 > 1:49:33women, and only that group of women, the blood that was surrounding the
1:49:33 > 1:49:36uterus, the womb, was significantly more acid than in any of the other
1:49:36 > 1:49:45groups. Now, we knew from our lab studies that acid is not helpful to
1:49:45 > 1:49:48contractions and of course, in Labour, you need a lot of really
1:49:48 > 1:49:57good strong contractions to deliver the baby. So, that was the
1:49:57 > 1:50:02background, Victoria, so then, if you like, we hypothesised, well, if
1:50:02 > 1:50:07it is acid that is causing the problems and failure to progress,
1:50:07 > 1:50:12then can we not do anything to overcome the acid in the uterus? And
1:50:12 > 1:50:17that's when we, and I should say the Wii is a couple of clinical
1:50:17 > 1:50:24colleagues in Sweden, came up with the idea of neutralising the acid by
1:50:24 > 1:50:32giving a bicarbonate drink, so that was the background to it.Which is
1:50:32 > 1:50:37fascinating and it seems so simple. It worked, did it? It did, yes.
1:50:37 > 1:50:43Again, I need to stress this is a small trial. It's been randomised
1:50:43 > 1:50:52and done in a blinded fashion. So, we had 100 women in each group. The
1:50:52 > 1:50:56control group had the normal treatment, which is the one drug,
1:50:56 > 1:51:02oxytocin, which may help. The second group were given a second -- a
1:51:02 > 1:51:07couple of sachets of the got bicarbonate drink, which is
1:51:07 > 1:51:14available at Street shops, available anywhere, not a drug, popped it in
1:51:14 > 1:51:18water fizzed up, drank it, then they would proceed after an hour to
1:51:18 > 1:51:22normal treatment. When we looked at the data, it was really fascinating,
1:51:22 > 1:51:27really exciting, because even when we rolled out any differences in the
1:51:27 > 1:51:32size of the babies or the size of the women, we got a significant
1:51:32 > 1:51:37increase in the number of women who were able to have a successful but
1:51:37 > 1:51:43delivery. To put that another way, we really reduced the number of
1:51:43 > 1:51:47women having to have surgery, and that's what's so exciting.So what
1:51:47 > 1:51:52happens next then with what you've discovered so far? I know it's a
1:51:52 > 1:51:57smallish sample, but what do you do next?What we do next is struggled
1:51:57 > 1:52:02to get funding, we will get funding, to do a multi-centre trial, though
1:52:02 > 1:52:06it's not just one hospital in Sweden, but several, hopefully one
1:52:06 > 1:52:12here in Liverpool. Also, to have a centre in a developing nation such
1:52:12 > 1:52:18as Uganda or Malawi which are university has links with and the,
1:52:18 > 1:52:23do these results hold out? Because the excitement for us is this is
1:52:23 > 1:52:31cheap, you don't need refrigeration to save the sachets for use, you
1:52:31 > 1:52:37don't have to be skilled in great clinical obstetrics or anything. You
1:52:37 > 1:52:43can just open the sashay, put it in water and ask the lady to drink it.
1:52:43 > 1:52:49And if this goes large scale and the results are upheld, that this will
1:52:49 > 1:52:55have a really good impact on reducing maternal death, which is
1:52:55 > 1:53:00what can happen in sub Saharan Africa if you have failure to
1:53:00 > 1:53:03progress, but also all the healthy women in this country who didn't
1:53:03 > 1:53:08want to have surgery but it was the only way to get their baby out.
1:53:08 > 1:53:13Wouldn't it be great to not have to have surgery if you don't want it?
1:53:13 > 1:53:19It sounds amazing. I just want to ask you finally, Professor Ray, how
1:53:19 > 1:53:25quick was the reaction once the woman drank the bicarbonate?Right,
1:53:25 > 1:53:29so in terms of changes in her blood acid, we took a blood sample after
1:53:29 > 1:53:34one hour and already, there were changes. And then we let the labour
1:53:34 > 1:53:41take its course, so the women who were entered into the trial, they
1:53:41 > 1:53:48may have had a cervix that was only four centimetres dilated. You need
1:53:48 > 1:53:51it ten centimetres to deliver the Beadle had and the baby. So that
1:53:51 > 1:54:00takes time. -- to deliver the head and the baby. We don't expect Labour
1:54:00 > 1:54:05to be instant. But we may have been talking about six hours, rather than
1:54:05 > 1:54:1112, 18.Never. Yes. Good work, Professor Susan Rae. Thank you so
1:54:11 > 1:54:17much were telling our audience about it.Thank you, Victoria.I know,
1:54:17 > 1:54:23much more work to be done, but fascinating. Wright, thank you for
1:54:23 > 1:54:26your messages about the worklife balance. I have been quite a few
1:54:26 > 1:54:30about these. Sophie says, the question is how to buy both
1:54:30 > 1:54:34companies and how to be confident enough challenge those not offering
1:54:34 > 1:54:39a better worklife balance. It shouldn't be seen as a business or
1:54:39 > 1:54:43individual issues to solve, helping mums to regain confidence to go back
1:54:43 > 1:54:47to work with business is key, I believe, to test and try different
1:54:47 > 1:54:53options that can be economically viable. This e-mail from Simon, up
1:54:53 > 1:55:00until MS effectively tucked me in my flat, I worked in a variety of jobs.
1:55:00 > 1:55:08I was kept in mind that I worked to live, I didn't live to work. I knew
1:55:08 > 1:55:12a number of people working excessive hours who were filling the time,
1:55:12 > 1:55:21rather than doing a job. Another man says he worked insane hours at an
1:55:21 > 1:55:25agency as well as three hours a day of the meeting, starting my own
1:55:25 > 1:55:32company a year ago if only to reduce the commute.
1:55:32 > 1:55:34While Britain prepares to leave the EU, one French treasure
1:55:34 > 1:55:36is apparently preparing to make the reverse journey -
1:55:36 > 1:55:39and it's the first time it'll be leaving continental shores in nearly
1:55:39 > 1:55:40a thousand years.
1:55:40 > 1:55:43The 230ft long artwork tells the story of William the Conqueror
1:55:43 > 1:55:44and the Battle of Hastings.
1:55:44 > 1:55:46Joining me in the studio is Dr Michael Lewis.
1:55:46 > 1:55:49He's from the Department of Portable Antiquities and Treasure
1:55:49 > 1:55:50at the British Museum.
1:55:50 > 1:55:56Hello, how are you? Lovely to meet you.How excited are you about this?
1:55:56 > 1:56:00It's going to be an amazing exhibition. It is busily really
1:56:00 > 1:56:08generous of the French to allow this object, which is a medieval
1:56:08 > 1:56:11masterpiece to come to the United Kingdom and be displayed.Where do
1:56:11 > 1:56:18you think it was created?Well, my view, and scholars differ on this, I
1:56:18 > 1:56:28believe it was made in Canterbury on the orders of a bishop, and it's
1:56:28 > 1:56:37probable that it was made for the consecration of Bayeux Cathedral.
1:56:37 > 1:56:41Most people probably remember the Bayeux tapestry for the Battle of
1:56:41 > 1:56:47Hastings, but that is the end, as he would expect. It has a big build-up.
1:56:47 > 1:56:51It starts in 1064 and it starts with Edward the confessor directing
1:56:51 > 1:56:56Harold to go on a mission. Somehow, he gets captured in France and then
1:56:56 > 1:57:01he gets handed over to William, Duke of Normandy, and he accompanies
1:57:01 > 1:57:04William, Duke of Normandy, on a campaign against rebel Breton
1:57:04 > 1:57:08leader. The ultimate thing, which is significant really, is that he makes
1:57:08 > 1:57:12a holy oath at the end that journey and it's by this oath that William
1:57:12 > 1:57:18then says that he's promising to help me find or get the English
1:57:18 > 1:57:22crown on the death of Edward the confessor. The rest of the tapestry
1:57:22 > 1:57:27then deals with that Harold becomes king, he is chosen, then there was
1:57:27 > 1:57:33the Battle of Hastings where William defeats Harold and he is shown being
1:57:33 > 1:57:37killed. Some people think with an arrow in the eye but hopefully this
1:57:37 > 1:57:43exhibition will show their summits in this story.How excited do you
1:57:43 > 1:57:47think British people will be in terms of going to see this? Quite a
1:57:47 > 1:57:52lot will have seen it when you get on the ferry and you go over there.
1:57:52 > 1:57:56Yes, you are right. A lot of people who visit Bayeux Museum at the
1:57:56 > 1:58:00moment are from England or the English-speaking world. Obviously
1:58:00 > 1:58:051066 is the date that we all know. Everyone who goes to a state school
1:58:05 > 1:58:10is taught about 1066 and the Bayeux tapestry. It will be amazing, I
1:58:10 > 1:58:13think, a lot of schoolchildren not just do hear about it but to go and
1:58:13 > 1:58:17see this thing as well. For the wider public, I think people will be
1:58:17 > 1:58:20amazed about how long it is. It definitely has a real impact when
1:58:20 > 1:58:26you see this work of art. It looks so new and lively.Thank you. We
1:58:26 > 1:58:31will look forward to seeing it. Thank you for watching.