23/01/2018

0:00:12 > 0:00:16Hello. It's Tuesday, it's 9am, welcome to the programme.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19An extra £1 million a week for the NHS -

0:00:19 > 0:00:20that's what Foreign Secretary Boris

0:00:20 > 0:00:22Johnson is said to be calling for.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24But is the money there?

0:00:24 > 0:00:26Just piling in some extra cash without thinking about the workforce

0:00:26 > 0:00:27won't work.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30We have to look at the whole system and we have to start

0:00:30 > 0:00:31doing that now.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34As members of Theresa May's Cabinet prepare to meet, we'll

0:00:34 > 0:00:35have the latest from Westminster.

0:00:35 > 0:00:38Also this morning: From Baywatch star to global activist -

0:00:38 > 0:00:41Pamela Anderson speaks to us exclusively about politics,

0:00:41 > 0:00:48feminism and Harvey Weinstein.

0:00:48 > 0:00:53I don't know if they knew what they were getting into, but again, I have

0:00:53 > 0:00:57been offered to go to hotel rooms to do a Private audition. I have gone

0:00:57 > 0:01:01to a Hotel where I thought I was meeting someone in the lobby, and

0:01:01 > 0:01:04they asked me to go to their room to talk about these pictures, and I

0:01:04 > 0:01:16said no.And the 2018 Academy Awards.If he did something wrong,

0:01:16 > 0:01:21cross-reference it, make 100% certain it was a correct match and

0:01:21 > 0:01:27kill him.We will preview the runners and riders ahead of today's

0:01:27 > 0:01:36announcement.

0:01:39 > 0:01:40Hello.

0:01:40 > 0:01:45Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

0:01:46 > 0:01:52We will be talking to Nigel Farage about the future of Ukip.

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0:02:01 > 0:02:03Our top story today...

0:02:03 > 0:02:07The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is expected to call for an extra one

0:02:07 > 0:02:09hundred million pounds a week for the NHS at a cabinet

0:02:09 > 0:02:12meeting later this morning.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15He'll make his case when the Health Secretary,

0:02:15 > 0:02:17Jeremy Hunt, gives an update to his ministerial colleagues on how

0:02:17 > 0:02:20the NHS is coping this winter.

0:02:20 > 0:02:23Let's head straight over to Westminster and get more on this

0:02:23 > 0:02:25from our political guru Norman Smith.

0:02:25 > 0:02:30A very good morning to you, Norman. Why is the Foreign Secretary asking

0:02:30 > 0:02:36for more funding for health?

0:02:36 > 0:02:39for more funding for health?A lot of people think this is going on...

0:02:39 > 0:02:44Boris Johnson is on manoeuvres, because this is highly unusual for

0:02:44 > 0:02:50the Foreign Secretary or his friends to be briefing what he's going to

0:02:50 > 0:02:53say at Cabinet, because not surprisingly, those discussions are

0:02:53 > 0:02:57meant for cabin. More than that, he's talking about funding for the

0:02:57 > 0:03:00NHS and he is not the Health Secretary, he is the Foreign

0:03:00 > 0:03:07Secretary. There is a view, bluntly, that Mr Johnson is trying to crowbar

0:03:07 > 0:03:11Theresa May into backing his infamous pledge - remember during

0:03:11 > 0:03:17the referendum campaign, £350 million a week more for the NHS.

0:03:17 > 0:03:23Now, 100 million is the net figure. If you subtract all the cash we get

0:03:23 > 0:03:27back from the EU from the 350 million, you get around about 100

0:03:27 > 0:03:31million. The suggestion is that Mr Johnson wants the Government to back

0:03:31 > 0:03:36his proposal that he mooted in the referendum campaign. That, not

0:03:36 > 0:03:39surprisingly, has caused a lot of grinding of teeth in Downing Street.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43Have a listen to the Chancellor, Philip Hammond, when he was asked

0:03:43 > 0:03:48about Mr Johnson's thoughts this morning.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52Mr Johnson is the Foreign Secretary. I gave the Health Secretary and

0:03:52 > 0:03:57extra £6 billion at the recent budget, and we will look at

0:03:57 > 0:03:59departmental allocations again in the spending review when that takes

0:03:59 > 0:04:04place.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08Philip Hammond giving a gentle reminder that he is not, after all,

0:04:08 > 0:04:13the Health Secretary. Why does this matter? At many levels, it is a test

0:04:13 > 0:04:18of Theresa May's authority - can she reign in Boris Johnson? The timing

0:04:18 > 0:04:25comes when all sorts of Tories are popping up and saying that Mrs may

0:04:25 > 0:04:34needs to be more radical. One MP is tweeted that she was dull, dull. Mr

0:04:34 > 0:04:40Johnson's suggestion could be seen as one of those big ideas, so it

0:04:40 > 0:04:44would be interpreted, if you like, as another criticism of Mrs May for

0:04:44 > 0:04:51not being radical enough. Norman, is this really about a Boris

0:04:51 > 0:04:54leadership bid?I don't think it's quite as simple as that. It is

0:04:54 > 0:05:00partly about Boris Johnson trying to shield himself from accusations that

0:05:00 > 0:05:05he was telling lies about £350 million more for the NHS. He wants

0:05:05 > 0:05:12to be vindicated. Part of it, too, is a view amongst Brexit supporters

0:05:12 > 0:05:17that Mrs May needs to strike a more optimistic and confident argument

0:05:17 > 0:05:21about Brexit, so why not say there will be a big NHS dividend from

0:05:21 > 0:05:28Brexit? And part of it may just be that Boris Johnson is determined not

0:05:28 > 0:05:34to sit silent. He has spoken out previously on Brexit, setting out

0:05:34 > 0:05:38his red lines. Now he is setting out his red lines on the NHS.Norman,

0:05:38 > 0:05:45for now, thank you very much. And it may play is in the BBC newsroom

0:05:45 > 0:05:50summary of the rest the day's news.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52England is lagging behind Scotland and Wales when it comes

0:05:52 > 0:05:54to introducing measures to improve child health, according

0:05:54 > 0:05:55to a new report.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health says

0:05:57 > 0:05:59children "deserve better", but Westminster insists it has

0:05:59 > 0:06:00"world-leading plans" in place.

0:06:00 > 0:06:03The college also warns that obesity could cause children to face

0:06:03 > 0:06:04a lifelong battle with poor health.

0:06:04 > 0:06:10Our Health Correspondent, Dominic Hughes, has more.

0:06:10 > 0:06:12Being healthy when you are young makes a big difference

0:06:12 > 0:06:15to your chances of good health in later life.

0:06:15 > 0:06:16At an after-school gym session in Manchester

0:06:16 > 0:06:19are sisters Grace and Mia.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22Both of them enjoy the rewards a work-out gives them.

0:06:22 > 0:06:24Fitter, confident.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28Just happier with yourself, yeah.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30Personally, I just feel good about myself, think I've done well,

0:06:30 > 0:06:33and achieve better stuff.

0:06:33 > 0:06:36But, when it comes to the health of children and young people,

0:06:36 > 0:06:39a report out last year showed the UK was lagging behind

0:06:39 > 0:06:43other European nations.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45So, one year on, has the situation improved?

0:06:45 > 0:06:48In Scotland, there is praise for a new mental health

0:06:48 > 0:06:50strategy, and better support for mothers who breast-feed.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52Likewise in Wales, where a smoking ban in playgrounds

0:06:52 > 0:06:55has been introduced.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58But the report says cuts to public health budgets in England

0:06:58 > 0:07:01are hitting children's services hard, and the issue doesn't get

0:07:01 > 0:07:02the same political attention.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04A healthy child makes a healthy adult.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07A healthy adult is a productive adult, and a productive adult

0:07:07 > 0:07:09population is good for the economy.

0:07:09 > 0:07:12It makes no sense whatsoever to not really target the preservation

0:07:12 > 0:07:19of health in childhood.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21The Department of Health in England says it has world-leading plans

0:07:21 > 0:07:23in place to combat obesity and improve mental health,

0:07:23 > 0:07:28and the sugar tax is funding breakfast clubs and sports.

0:07:28 > 0:07:29Push back with your legs...

0:07:29 > 0:07:32But this report warns that, if our children and young people

0:07:32 > 0:07:35don't get a good healthy start in life, they are more likely

0:07:35 > 0:07:37to struggle as adults.

0:07:37 > 0:07:45Dominic Hughes, BBC News.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52Nigel Farage has said the refusal of the UKIP leader, Henry Bolton,

0:07:52 > 0:07:54to resign could be a "lifeline" for the party.

0:07:54 > 0:07:5614 members of Mr Bolton's senior team have quit

0:07:56 > 0:07:58following the controversy over his former girlfriend making

0:07:58 > 0:07:59racist remarks about Meghan Markle.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01Writing for the Daily Telegraph website, Mr Farage said

0:08:01 > 0:08:04if he had the courage, Mr Bolton could use the situation

0:08:04 > 0:08:10to force UKIP to change.

0:08:10 > 0:08:16Tina will be speaking to Nigel Farage about the Ukip crisis later

0:08:16 > 0:08:19in this programme.

0:08:19 > 0:08:29The UK's competition watchdog says the takeover of sky by 21st-century

0:08:29 > 0:08:32fox is not in the public interest. It is said that if the deal went

0:08:32 > 0:08:35ahead it would give Fox too much control over news providers in the

0:08:35 > 0:08:44UK. Fox has been trying to buy the 61% of sky that it doesn't own.

0:08:44 > 0:08:47John Warboys has been moved to Belmarsh prison in south-east

0:08:47 > 0:08:51London. The process of setting licence conditions has continued

0:08:51 > 0:08:57with his release less than a week away. The fact he has been moved to

0:08:57 > 0:09:00a jail in London does not necessarily mean he will be freed to

0:09:00 > 0:09:06live in London. A gas leak was discovered in central

0:09:06 > 0:09:09London early this morning. The area around the Strand has been cordoned

0:09:09 > 0:09:16off. Motorists have been advised to avoid the area. The London Fire

0:09:16 > 0:09:20Brigade say they are still investigating the cause. Lets get

0:09:20 > 0:09:23up-to-date with our correspondent, John McManus. This has been causing

0:09:23 > 0:09:32considerable destruction - what is the latest?The Strand here, which

0:09:32 > 0:09:42is normally very busy, is closed to traffic and partly to pedestrians.

0:09:42 > 0:09:47No trains arriving on leaving here this morning. Waterloo station is

0:09:47 > 0:09:53also closed, which will affect commuters from south London, Surrey

0:09:53 > 0:09:57and Kent this morning, all because of this gas lick that was reported

0:09:57 > 0:10:01at about 2am by several different people. London Fire Brigade and the

0:10:01 > 0:10:15Metropolitan police came down here and evacuated the area.

0:10:15 > 0:10:20and evacuated the area. One of London's more famous nightclubs,

0:10:20 > 0:10:24Heaven, was evacuated, and people left in a bit of a rush, but there

0:10:24 > 0:10:30were no injuries. This will continue until the authorities can find out

0:10:30 > 0:10:33whether gas leak is and the street can be safely reopened.John, thank

0:10:33 > 0:10:39you very much. Police in Yorkshire looking for a missing schoolgirl

0:10:39 > 0:10:45have found a body in a river. The girl was last seen on Monday

0:10:45 > 0:10:49afternoon, dressed in her school uniform. Police say there are no

0:10:49 > 0:10:52suspicious circumstances surrounding the death but are continuing to try

0:10:52 > 0:10:56to establish the cause. Her family have been informed.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58Car manufacturer Jaguar Landrover has announced it will cut production

0:10:58 > 0:11:00at its Halewood Plant in Merseyside.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02The firm had reported experiencing a record year,

0:11:02 > 0:11:05but says it's reviewing its plans because of a fall in demand,

0:11:05 > 0:11:07because of uncertainty over Brexit and consumer concerns over

0:11:07 > 0:11:09the future of diesel vehicles.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12The US government shutdown is over - temporarily, anyway -

0:11:12 > 0:11:15after Republicans and Democrats voted for a short-term funding bill.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19Congress passed the legislation, after the Democrats accepted

0:11:19 > 0:11:23the promise of a broad debate on the issue of immigration.

0:11:23 > 0:11:26The so-called continuing resolution keeps the government funded

0:11:26 > 0:11:29until February the 8th in the hope that Congress can reach

0:11:29 > 0:11:37a longer term budget agreement in the meantime.

0:11:37 > 0:11:41Neil Diamond has announced his retirement from the morning after he

0:11:41 > 0:11:44was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. The 76 old singer said he

0:11:44 > 0:11:48had made the decision with great reluctance. In a statement, he

0:11:48 > 0:11:51apologised to fans who had already bought tickets for his tour of

0:11:51 > 0:11:54Australia and New Zealand. He said he would continue writing and

0:11:54 > 0:11:56recording.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

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0:12:10 > 0:12:18Time to get some sport with Holly. What a morning for Kyle Edmund!

0:12:18 > 0:12:22Yes, great news to wake up to, and an incredible performance from Kyle

0:12:22 > 0:12:27Edmund, just 23 years old. I think after Andy Murray, who pulled out

0:12:27 > 0:12:31injured at the beginning of the tournament, and Johanna Konta going

0:12:31 > 0:12:36out in the second round, all British hopes rested on his shoulders. No

0:12:36 > 0:12:43sign of that pressure today, beating world number three Grigor Dimitrov,

0:12:43 > 0:12:47rather convincingly too, it must be said, despite the wobble in the

0:12:47 > 0:12:51second set. A bit of tension at the end, certainly, and he beat him for

0:12:51 > 0:12:58- six, 6-3, 3-6 in just two hours and 40 minutes, and looking very

0:12:58 > 0:13:02much at home. It makes a only the sixth British man to reach the last

0:13:02 > 0:13:07four at the grand slam in the open era, and it allows him to break into

0:13:07 > 0:13:11the top 30 for the very first time in his career. Afterwards, he said

0:13:11 > 0:13:14it was an amazing feeling, and he said, now I know what it feels like

0:13:14 > 0:13:17to be Andy Murray for the last eight years. I think that is something he

0:13:17 > 0:13:22will have to get used to. Speaking of Andy Murray, there is a

0:13:22 > 0:13:26chance he could knock him off the British number one spot.

0:13:26 > 0:13:31Imagine that. Andy Murray has given him an immense amount of support

0:13:31 > 0:13:35over the years, giving him advice, attended many of his matches while

0:13:35 > 0:13:40he has been injured himself. He introduced into his training camp in

0:13:40 > 0:13:46Dubai. Andy Murray tweeted this morning: He will be delighted for

0:13:46 > 0:13:53Kyle Edmund. He knows the sheer amount of work that will have gone

0:13:53 > 0:13:59into this. There is another quarterfinal going on just now

0:13:59 > 0:14:03between Rafael Nadal and Marin Cilic. Nadal is the current world

0:14:03 > 0:14:07number one, so he will be the likely favourite to meet Kyle Edmund in the

0:14:07 > 0:14:14semifinal. Cilic on adult will be a daunting press pick for Kyle Edmund,

0:14:14 > 0:14:21but that will take place on Thursday morning, our time. Perhaps it will

0:14:21 > 0:14:24be Kyle Edmund versus Rafael Nadal in the semifinal. That'll be

0:14:24 > 0:14:29something worth watching. It will be an evening match in Australia, so at

0:14:29 > 0:14:32least we will be awake to watch it as well.

0:14:32 > 0:14:36That is good to know!

0:14:36 > 0:14:39From starring in Baywatch to appearing on a record 14 Playboy

0:14:39 > 0:14:40covers, Pamela Anderson was the inescapable

0:14:40 > 0:14:41face of the 1990s.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44But from being a pin up, she's now known for her activism, campaigning

0:14:44 > 0:14:45and political engagement.

0:14:45 > 0:14:52She spoke to us exclusively a little earlier.

0:14:52 > 0:14:59She began by talking about her role as a feminist.I'm going to write a

0:14:59 > 0:15:04book called Saving Women From Feminism.What Does That Mean?Be

0:15:04 > 0:15:09careful what you wish for. I believe in romantic love and chivalry, and I

0:15:09 > 0:15:16wrote a book that is coming out

0:15:16 > 0:15:19wrote a book that is coming out in April, my co-writer with a religious

0:15:19 > 0:15:24point of view, and the romantic and sexy life, and wanting men to make

0:15:24 > 0:15:27the first move, and also being the mother of two Matt Young boys and

0:15:27 > 0:15:33concern for them, and for them to be able to have the security and feel

0:15:33 > 0:15:38confident enough to take that role as the man in a relationship and to

0:15:38 > 0:15:44respect women. It's complicated. It's great. Feminism, obviously, in

0:15:44 > 0:15:48the last 50 years, has given us so much freedom in so many great

0:15:48 > 0:15:51things, but I think that in some cases, even progressive countries

0:15:51 > 0:15:58like Sweden, a condom breaks and it is a sexual assault. That is going

0:15:58 > 0:16:02too far.You're talking about Julian Assange, who we will come back to.

0:16:02 > 0:16:06How do you think that being a Playboy playmate fits in with you

0:16:06 > 0:16:10being a feminist?

0:16:10 > 0:16:16Well, no one forced me to be a playmate. Hefner was an incredible

0:16:16 > 0:16:21pioneer and really empowered women and empowered a lot of people and

0:16:21 > 0:16:26was a self rights activist and art lover and freedom fighter and just

0:16:26 > 0:16:29created this really fun lifestyle that I wish everybody could be a

0:16:29 > 0:16:35part of. It wasn't as sleazy or terrible as people might think. It

0:16:35 > 0:16:39was very respectful and wonderful and girls got to make careers out of

0:16:39 > 0:16:44this.But what about people who say it's equivalent to colluding with

0:16:44 > 0:16:51men who objectify and exploit women? I think it goes both ways. I think

0:16:51 > 0:16:56women, we have our ways and men maybe are a little rough around the

0:16:56 > 0:17:00edges steams and as a parent of two young boys it is really important to

0:17:00 > 0:17:06teach our kids to be respectful and you know, but there is that, you

0:17:06 > 0:17:09know, uncomfortable, you know, as women we don't want to know

0:17:09 > 0:17:15everything that men maybe talk about. It is just, I think, I don't

0:17:15 > 0:17:20think, I think we need to just relax a little bit and be who we are and

0:17:20 > 0:17:25it's fun. It is a powerful position to be a woman and we do have super

0:17:25 > 0:17:37powers.Do you think the Me Too And Time's Up movements are empowering

0:17:37 > 0:17:43women?It is great to have the discussion and make women feel more

0:17:43 > 0:17:46comfortable and I believe hashtags. We sometimes believe we are doing

0:17:46 > 0:17:50something and we need to, you know, have these discussions and prosecute

0:17:50 > 0:17:55these people in a court of law and not feel like if we have just said

0:17:55 > 0:17:58something, that we've done something, that awareness is good,

0:17:58 > 0:18:04but action is more important.People use the hashtag and social media as

0:18:04 > 0:18:09a platform to share their experiences so other women maybe

0:18:09 > 0:18:14encouraged to come forward to talk about their own?I have been in

0:18:14 > 0:18:17lunches with women who said this happened to me when I was young or

0:18:17 > 0:18:21this happened to me. It seems to be around the kitchen table talk more

0:18:21 > 0:18:27too because. As a young person, as a child, you know, and it's difficult

0:18:27 > 0:18:32maybe to talk about, you don't know if it is right or wrong, but if you

0:18:32 > 0:18:37do know it is right or wrong, you have to take precautions.Have you

0:18:37 > 0:18:43suffered harassment?Yes, Hollywood, but my mother always told me not to

0:18:43 > 0:18:47get into a car with strangers and not to go a hotel room alone. I had

0:18:47 > 0:18:50this common sense feeling of how to protect myself and because of the

0:18:50 > 0:18:57business I was in and because I was in Playboy, I was cautious of people

0:18:57 > 0:19:03getting the wrong imprrks. I believe people have been victims innocently

0:19:03 > 0:19:07and the perpetrator is always at fault, but we also need to remember

0:19:07 > 0:19:11to not put ourselves in these situations as women.Which brings me

0:19:11 > 0:19:15on to my next point. You've also spoken out about Harvey Weinstein

0:19:15 > 0:19:19and said the victims who went to his hotel room alone knew what they were

0:19:19 > 0:19:25getting into. Can understand why there was a backlash about that?I

0:19:25 > 0:19:28don't know if they knew what they were getting into. I have been

0:19:28 > 0:19:34offered to go to hotel rooms to do a private audition. I have gone to a

0:19:34 > 0:19:39hotel where I thought I was meeting somebody in the lobby and I had

0:19:39 > 0:19:42people with me and they asked me to go to their room to talk about the

0:19:42 > 0:19:49pictures. If an agent asks to meet you at a hotel, your producer should

0:19:49 > 0:19:53go with you.It implies the women are at fault for what may happen to

0:19:53 > 0:19:58them?They are not at fault, but they need to be, you need to be more

0:19:58 > 0:20:04protective of yourself and even in colleges I find young girls drinking

0:20:04 > 0:20:07and put themselves in this situation, these boys have been away

0:20:07 > 0:20:11from home for the first time and they are full of testosterone and

0:20:11 > 0:20:16people are loaded with information and a woman in that position is in a

0:20:16 > 0:20:21dangerous position so you have to be careful and we can ruin boys lives

0:20:21 > 0:20:25and women's lives this way.People watching at home may think it is

0:20:25 > 0:20:30similar to victim blaming and also much in the same way that women are

0:20:30 > 0:20:33held responsible for assault if they were dressed a certain way, if they

0:20:33 > 0:20:36look a certain way, if they go to a certain place, if they stay out too

0:20:36 > 0:20:45late.I think I am a good person to discuss this because of my image and

0:20:45 > 0:20:48I have just learned to not put myself in positions where I could be

0:20:48 > 0:20:54in any danger. I think that's an OK thing to say and I have had some

0:20:54 > 0:20:59lack bash, but I have had support from women saying this and men

0:20:59 > 0:21:02saying, "Thank god for saying this." It is a crazy world and I think it

0:21:02 > 0:21:05is good. There is a lot of opportunity for change and a lot of

0:21:05 > 0:21:10opportunity for improving our lives as women and in politics and even

0:21:10 > 0:21:14though it seems kind of scary now that Trump is president, I think

0:21:14 > 0:21:18there is a lot of possibility for people with good ideas to come

0:21:18 > 0:21:22forward and do it better than it was because I think people did have a

0:21:22 > 0:21:27problem with the way governments are run even in Europe as well, there is

0:21:27 > 0:21:30hopefully new brains, new ways that are going to come forward. I think

0:21:30 > 0:21:36it is an opportunity.Why are you here in London at the moment?Well,

0:21:36 > 0:21:42I was here

0:21:42 > 0:21:49I was here moderating a conversation between the women of wicky leeks.

0:21:49 > 0:21:54This is a great book. Yulian is surrounded by great women who run

0:21:54 > 0:21:56this organisation and it goes against the narrative that people

0:21:56 > 0:22:03want to believe because people want to think of misogynistic wicky

0:22:03 > 0:22:09leeks, it is not true.You went to see Julian yesterday. How is he?He

0:22:09 > 0:22:14is good. The UN ruling is really important to look at. That he is

0:22:14 > 0:22:19held under terrible conditions and it's inhumane and cruel and he

0:22:19 > 0:22:25should not be there.He has Ecuadorian nationality now. Is he

0:22:25 > 0:22:28planning to leave the embassy any time soon? Did you speak to him

0:22:28 > 0:22:34about that?Wouldn't that be great? It is impossible for him to leave

0:22:34 > 0:22:40under any safe circumstances with the extradition pending in the UK or

0:22:40 > 0:22:44you know, you don't know so it's not safe for him to leave.Did you talk

0:22:44 > 0:22:46about that yesterday?Yes, we talk about everything. I always make sure

0:22:46 > 0:22:50he is OK and make sure he is exercising and eating well. He

0:22:50 > 0:22:54doesn't get any sunlight, you know, so it's very unhealthy situation for

0:22:54 > 0:22:58him, but he is determined and relentless and in good spirits and

0:22:58 > 0:23:02what he is doing is very, very important and we need to know, we

0:23:02 > 0:23:08need to have true information.He is a controversial figure. You have

0:23:08 > 0:23:13dual American Canadian nationality. Your home country, America,

0:23:13 > 0:23:16considers wicky leeks to be a national security threat. How does

0:23:16 > 0:23:21that sit with you?I think it is bizarre to have true information

0:23:21 > 0:23:26being a national security threat is bizarre and to be considered radical

0:23:26 > 0:23:30for exposing truths and truths in full.Have you tried to use your

0:23:30 > 0:23:34position to speak to anybody in the American government such adds the

0:23:34 > 0:23:38Attorney-General Jeff Sessions about his situation?I haven't been able

0:23:38 > 0:23:46to get to him, but Jeff Sessions has made Julian a priority to arrest.

0:23:46 > 0:23:50There is an American, there is a lot of things to be concerned about, but

0:23:50 > 0:23:54this is the future and this is a lot of young people who really believe

0:23:54 > 0:23:58in the movement and want to know what is going on and we have to find

0:23:58 > 0:24:04true ways and I always say if you're watching, if you're watching CNN

0:24:04 > 0:24:09maybe watch RT and you maybe able to get the truth. I don't know about

0:24:09 > 0:24:14the British channels. The channels are run by big corporations and we

0:24:14 > 0:24:18are in a Google government world. It's important to understand that

0:24:18 > 0:24:22technology is also spying on us and getting information.How do you

0:24:22 > 0:24:27respond to criticism of your relationship with Julian Assange?I

0:24:27 > 0:24:34would rather be a friend to anybody. I think he is, he's so full of

0:24:34 > 0:24:39information and has an incredible prospective and is a genius and the

0:24:39 > 0:24:42ultimate goal is to stop the senseless wars. How bad is that?We

0:24:42 > 0:24:49are talking about women. We're talking about the Me Too meet.

0:24:49 > 0:24:54Julian Assange was accused of rape, the charges were dropped last year,

0:24:54 > 0:24:58but did you ever ask him the truth about the sexual assault claims made

0:24:58 > 0:25:04about him?It was very important to me. That's the best way to discredit

0:25:04 > 0:25:07somebody is to call them a rapist or paedophile. This was a set-up. This

0:25:07 > 0:25:12was not something that was true. This was a man being investigated

0:25:12 > 0:25:16over rape. Yes, the investigation was dropped, but is that

0:25:16 > 0:25:20unquestioning support compatible with your support for example for

0:25:20 > 0:25:25the Me Too movement?If you look at the UN ruling, you can look at the

0:25:25 > 0:25:29details, the embarrassing details of the sexual experiences and they were

0:25:29 > 0:25:38very, very nothing. They are nothing went wrong. It was... It was an idea

0:25:38 > 0:25:43to discredit him, to extradite him to the States.Did you ever ask

0:25:43 > 0:25:47yourself, "What if I'm wrong?"I know I'm not wrong.You weren't

0:25:47 > 0:25:51there. We weren't there. I wasn't there.I read the details of the

0:25:51 > 0:25:56case and if you look at how the UK is treating this and how they have

0:25:56 > 0:26:01not allowed all this information to come into the public, it's very

0:26:01 > 0:26:07sordid and bizarre and as a man and mother of two young boys if my sons

0:26:07 > 0:26:11were in this situation I would feel the same way.Holding the opinions

0:26:11 > 0:26:14that you do, how do you feel about travelling in the United States

0:26:14 > 0:26:17going back home, were you are you living at the moment?I live in

0:26:17 > 0:26:22France. I love living in the south of France, I always wanted to at

0:26:22 > 0:26:28this point in my life and I have my house in Malibu, which I rent out,

0:26:28 > 0:26:34when I wander around and I am in circles of Hollywood, I get a lot of

0:26:34 > 0:26:38backlash there too, but I can talk them down after a while because it

0:26:38 > 0:26:43seems this really raw reaction that's uninformed and by the time we

0:26:43 > 0:26:47talk for a while, people say, "I understand. We just have this

0:26:47 > 0:26:53painted picture." Especially in America that I think is interesting,

0:26:53 > 0:26:57but you have to educate yourself about the issue before you can

0:26:57 > 0:27:04really have this strong opinion.Who did you vote for in the US election?

0:27:04 > 0:27:11Well, I did vote for Obama the first time that I did vote and then I

0:27:11 > 0:27:17voted for Stein in the second, but I... Are you friends with Donald

0:27:17 > 0:27:23Trump?No, but I did appear, I think, it was a birthday, it was a

0:27:23 > 0:27:27paid appearance, it was years and years ago, who would have thought he

0:27:27 > 0:27:31would have been president?You didn't vote for him?No. No, I can

0:27:31 > 0:27:37say that. I can say that. But...Who did you vote for?I'd rather not,

0:27:37 > 0:27:45but it was not him and it was not Hillary Clinton, it was just very...

0:27:45 > 0:27:49There was really no good option except someone came up with a new

0:27:49 > 0:27:54idea. This is what the opportunity is.And a year on, what do you think

0:27:54 > 0:27:59of his record? LAUGHTER

0:27:59 > 0:28:04Obviously I'm a an environmentalist. That upsets me that he is in denial

0:28:04 > 0:28:09of climate change. A lot of his, it's difficult. You know, it's very

0:28:09 > 0:28:15difficult, but like I say, I'm going to look at this as an opportunity to

0:28:15 > 0:28:17have someone come forward and do something good. I don't think there

0:28:17 > 0:28:23is a lot of good options right now and I think America is a little

0:28:23 > 0:28:31cuckoo right now.It would be interesting getting your views on

0:28:31 > 0:28:37Julian Assange getting Donald Trump elected.Those were just Hillary's

0:28:37 > 0:28:40words. It is very important for people to understand the truth

0:28:40 > 0:28:44before they vote for somebody. So I don't think, I know, I know he did

0:28:44 > 0:28:48not think that Donald Trump was going to win.The fact that he sort

0:28:48 > 0:28:53of gone from Julian Assange being this left-wing hero to winning the

0:28:53 > 0:28:56support of right-wing nationalists? I don't think he has the support, I

0:28:56 > 0:29:02think he has the support of a lot of different people across both boards,

0:29:02 > 0:29:05but obviously they're still trying to arrest him and Donald Trump is no

0:29:05 > 0:29:15friend of Julian Assange.Is it true that you're famous with Malania.I

0:29:15 > 0:29:21sent her a fake fur coat and it was great that she wrote me this

0:29:21 > 0:29:26beautiful note back and thanked me because she was a big fur wearer and

0:29:26 > 0:29:32as First Lady and I wanted to make sure she would follow in the

0:29:32 > 0:29:38footsteps of other ladies who don't wear fur.A different reaction from

0:29:38 > 0:29:42kim Kardashian.I don't know Kim. They have always been, her family

0:29:42 > 0:29:48has been very kind to me and looked up to me and I would hope that would

0:29:48 > 0:29:53use a platform for more good and wearing fur is just, I mean they

0:29:53 > 0:29:58have a full fur line for kids which is fantastic, so I was trying to

0:29:58 > 0:30:02encourage her to wear full fur too. What are your priorities for 2018?

0:30:02 > 0:30:08Well, I am living in France and there is a lot of animal issues and

0:30:08 > 0:30:14marine land that I'm going after and it's a great, it's difficult to be

0:30:14 > 0:30:17vegan in France. I shouldn't say it's difficult, but there can be...

0:30:17 > 0:30:21Challenging.It is challenging and there is a lot of issues in France

0:30:21 > 0:30:28that I want to, I met with, you know, I met with the Mayor of Paris

0:30:28 > 0:30:31and we talked about sustainable issues, how to be more involved and

0:30:31 > 0:30:35this is what I love to do with my life at this point. I'm doing a

0:30:35 > 0:30:39magic show right now running around so between magic shows I read this

0:30:39 > 0:30:47book!Very varied.Smoke and mir rs and all sorts of things.And popping

0:30:47 > 0:30:52into the embassy to see Julian Assange.I like the balance of my

0:30:52 > 0:30:56life and being in France and learning a new culture and new

0:30:56 > 0:30:58language, I highly recommend it especially half-way through your

0:30:58 > 0:31:02life, it is good to kind of do something really scary and

0:31:02 > 0:31:05interesting and it keeps you young. Well, you look fantastic for your

0:31:05 > 0:31:10age. I can't believe you're 50 by the way.I can't either. My mind is

0:31:10 > 0:31:16my fountain of youth.Well, whatever the secret is, I want it. It has

0:31:16 > 0:31:19been a pleasure speaking to you, Pamela.

0:31:19 > 0:31:21Still to come:

0:31:21 > 0:31:22Ukip Leader Henry Bolton has insisted

0:31:22 > 0:31:24he won't stand down, despite 14 senior figures

0:31:24 > 0:31:25resigning from the party.

0:31:25 > 0:31:26Does Ukip have a future?

0:31:26 > 0:31:34We'll put that question to former Leader Nigel Farage.

0:31:34 > 0:31:39In fact, the figure has gone up to 16 now.

0:31:39 > 0:31:43Will Gary Oldman's portrayal of Winston Churchill be his finest

0:31:43 > 0:31:48hour? We look forward to the 2018 Oscars nominations.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50It's time for the latest news, here's Ben.

0:31:50 > 0:31:54The BBC News headlines this morning.

0:31:54 > 0:31:58Boris Johnson is expected to call for an extra £100 million a week for

0:31:58 > 0:32:02the NHS at a cabinet meeting this morning. He will make his case when

0:32:02 > 0:32:07Jeremy Hunt gives an update on how the NHS is coping this winter. It

0:32:07 > 0:32:11comes as fresh evidence has emerged of the intense strain hospitals

0:32:11 > 0:32:16across the UK are now wonder. England is lagging behind Scotland

0:32:16 > 0:32:19and Wales when it comes to introducing measures to improve

0:32:19 > 0:32:23child health, according to a new report from the Royal College of

0:32:23 > 0:32:26paediatrics and Child health. It also warns that four out of five

0:32:26 > 0:32:30young people who are obese will battle ill-health for the rest of

0:32:30 > 0:32:35their lives. Westminster insist it has world leading plans in place,

0:32:35 > 0:32:39and in the past year, both teenage pregnancies and child mortality have

0:32:39 > 0:32:45fallen to a all-time lows. Nigel Farage has said that the

0:32:45 > 0:32:50refusal of Henry Bolton to resign could be a lifeline. 16 party

0:32:50 > 0:32:54spokespeople have quit following the controversy over his former

0:32:54 > 0:32:57girlfriend making racist remarks about Meghan Markle. Writing for the

0:32:57 > 0:33:02daily Telegraph website, Nigel Farage said that if he had the

0:33:02 > 0:33:07courage, Mr Bolton could use the situation to force Ukip the change.

0:33:07 > 0:33:11Police in Yorkshire looking for a missing schoolgirl have found a body

0:33:11 > 0:33:17in a river. The girl was last seen on Monday afternoon dressed in her

0:33:17 > 0:33:24school uniform. Police say there are no suspicious circumstances but they

0:33:24 > 0:33:27continuing to establish the cause. Her family have been informed.

0:33:27 > 0:33:28That's the latest BBC News.

0:33:28 > 0:33:33Here's some sport now with Holly.

0:33:33 > 0:33:37Coming up, we will have more reaction to Kyle Edmund's victory in

0:33:37 > 0:33:42the quarterfinals in Melbourne. He beat world number three Grigor

0:33:42 > 0:33:45Dimitrov to reach the semifinal, where he will face Rafael Nadal or

0:33:45 > 0:33:50Marin Cilic next. The world number one and number four are on court at

0:33:50 > 0:33:53the moment for that quarterfinal. McDowell has taken the first set

0:33:53 > 0:33:586-3. A short time ago, it was 3-3 in the second.

0:33:58 > 0:34:04Liverpool

0:34:04 > 0:34:07Liverpool suffered a surprise 1-0 defeat yesterday. Jurgen Klopp was

0:34:07 > 0:34:10criticised for being drawn into an argument with the support.

0:34:10 > 0:34:16Ben Stokes won't join up with his England team-mates at the start of

0:34:16 > 0:34:19next month as planned. His court appearance falls on the same day as

0:34:19 > 0:34:30his England return. More sport later. I want to get some of your

0:34:30 > 0:34:33comments on our exclusive interview with Pamela Anderson, which we

0:34:33 > 0:34:39started this morning's programme with. Stephen says: A refreshing

0:34:39 > 0:34:42change, listening to Pamela Anderson. A strong woman in control

0:34:42 > 0:34:48and not looking to follow political correctness with her views. From

0:34:48 > 0:34:54Holly: It's not your fault if you go to our hotel etc. Why should we have

0:34:54 > 0:34:58to protect ourselves from abusive men? Rather better for men to stop

0:34:58 > 0:35:03being abusive. It is never our fault. From Morgan: Finally, a

0:35:03 > 0:35:09celebrity who really knows what is going on. Elaine says: Vulnerable

0:35:09 > 0:35:17young women have suffered. And we will finish on Tim: Pamela Anderson

0:35:17 > 0:35:21speaking complete sense. It is nice to hear the other side for a change.

0:35:21 > 0:35:28And it is nice to get all of your messages, too. Keep them coming.

0:35:28 > 0:35:33Henry Bolton has decided he won't resign despite the resignation of 14

0:35:33 > 0:35:38party members. He says he has the backing of hundreds of party

0:35:38 > 0:35:43members. Elizabeth Jones is chair of the party's Lambeth branch and was a

0:35:43 > 0:35:47candidate in the last leadership election. We will hear from Nigel

0:35:47 > 0:35:52Farage after ten. Let's hear what you think about the past 24 hours,

0:35:52 > 0:35:56but the party has been in meltdown since the weekend, and arguably

0:35:56 > 0:36:02before then.I wouldn't say it has been in meltdown as such. We have

0:36:02 > 0:36:09had worse situations. We had to have an EGM in 99 when Nigel Farage

0:36:09 > 0:36:14called one to remove the then leader. We have experienced these

0:36:14 > 0:36:18situations in the past, and we will survive. I have every confidence we

0:36:18 > 0:36:24will go on and survive. We still don't have an exit from the EU.

0:36:24 > 0:36:28Brexit still hasn't happened. Unfortunately, it appears to be led

0:36:28 > 0:36:33by a rather weak and diffident leader in Theresa May, and while she

0:36:33 > 0:36:35is they're dragging out the transition period, there was most

0:36:35 > 0:36:39certainly a space for Ukip in the political arena.Most people would

0:36:39 > 0:36:43argue that isn't the case because Brexit is happening. It is going to

0:36:43 > 0:36:50happen.I admire your faith in the political system, but it seems to be

0:36:50 > 0:36:55happening at such a slow pace. It seems to be that Theresa May is

0:36:55 > 0:37:01supportive of a very watered down version. It really isn't the Brexit

0:37:01 > 0:37:05that many of the people in this country voted for. I anticipate that

0:37:05 > 0:37:12Ukip will be around for very much longer. Don't forget, Ukip is, I

0:37:12 > 0:37:15would say, the only radical political voice in the United

0:37:15 > 0:37:18Kingdom. We are for small Government, low tax and the freedom

0:37:18 > 0:37:25of the individual. Simply, we are the only people offering that is.

0:37:25 > 0:37:29Optimistic to say that Ukip will be around for a long time. We have been

0:37:29 > 0:37:32speaking to Nigel Farage this morning, and he believes it may not

0:37:32 > 0:37:36last for more than 18 months if things carry on the way they are

0:37:36 > 0:37:40going and the party doesn't sort itself out.Of course, that's his

0:37:40 > 0:37:48take. I don't take everything Nigel says as gospel. I'm on the National

0:37:48 > 0:37:52committee, and I see the accounts, I see how things are moving forward.

0:37:52 > 0:37:57And I am reasonably confident that we will still be around.You backed

0:37:57 > 0:38:05the vote of no-confidence in Henry Bolton?I certainly did.Why?He has

0:38:05 > 0:38:09been leader for four months, and our Constitution makes it clear that the

0:38:09 > 0:38:12leader's duty is to provide political direction for the party,

0:38:12 > 0:38:17and to develop policy. He has done nothing. He has not introduced any

0:38:17 > 0:38:21new donors, has not devised any new schemes for financing the party, and

0:38:21 > 0:38:25we have absolute silence from him with regard to political direction.

0:38:25 > 0:38:29During the course of that meeting on Sunday when we had the vote of no

0:38:29 > 0:38:35confidence in him, I asked him, what is your economic plan for a post

0:38:35 > 0:38:38Brexit Britain? His response was, you know, I've got a spokesman for

0:38:38 > 0:38:43that. I said, all well and good, but you were the leader and we look to

0:38:43 > 0:38:47you for guidance - what is your plan? Nothing, he hasn't considered

0:38:47 > 0:38:52any of these major policy issues. And they are the main reasons?They

0:38:52 > 0:38:57are for me.What about the racist text messages that were sent by his

0:38:57 > 0:39:03former girlfriend?Those, of course, are very serious, and they go to the

0:39:03 > 0:39:07heart of the character of the man. Of course, there has been a huge

0:39:07 > 0:39:15media brouhaha about that, and it appears he is still seeing Jo

0:39:15 > 0:39:18Marney, I don't know what kind of relationship they have, but the main

0:39:18 > 0:39:25thrust is the fact that the seven -- that he hasn't dispatched his duties

0:39:25 > 0:39:30as leader. We have no local policies because of him. We will have to put

0:39:30 > 0:39:33our shoulders to the wheel and come up with something.Very quickly,

0:39:33 > 0:39:40what should happen next?Henry, being a military man, should

0:39:40 > 0:39:44consider a tactical retreat forthwith.Not sure that's going to

0:39:44 > 0:39:49happen.Probably not.Thank you for joining us. After 10am, we will hear

0:39:49 > 0:39:52from former leader Nigel Farage.

0:39:52 > 0:39:53Coming up:

0:39:53 > 0:39:55Will Three Billboards - the story of a mother's

0:39:55 > 0:39:57fight for justice - dominate the Oscar nominations?

0:39:57 > 0:40:04We'll look ahead to today's announcement.

0:40:04 > 0:40:08Vulnerable people, including the elderly and people

0:40:08 > 0:40:09with learning difficulties, are suffering abuse

0:40:09 > 0:40:11and neglect despite living in supported accommodation.

0:40:11 > 0:40:14The BBC's File on 4 found there were 31,000 safeguarding

0:40:14 > 0:40:15alerts between 2014 and 2017 with annual alerts

0:40:15 > 0:40:17increasing 30% in that time.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20One aspect of the abuse is so-called 'mate crimes',

0:40:20 > 0:40:23where a vulnerable person is befriended only to be coerced

0:40:23 > 0:40:28in to handing over sums of money.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30There were 4200 financial alerts during that period,

0:40:30 > 0:40:32but it's difficult for police to gain a conviction because often

0:40:32 > 0:40:34the victim is deemed to be of sound mind,

0:40:34 > 0:40:37and the law states they've voluntarily given away money

0:40:37 > 0:40:44or banking information.

0:40:44 > 0:40:46We can speak to Nicole Koliopoulos.

0:40:46 > 0:40:48She has learning difficulties and had £5000 taken by someone

0:40:48 > 0:40:50who befriended her.

0:40:50 > 0:40:54Claudia MacAuley is a co-ordinator at Camden People First.

0:40:54 > 0:40:57Sheree Green is Chair of the Law Society's Mental Health

0:40:57 > 0:40:59and Disability Committee.

0:40:59 > 0:41:07Dame Vera Baird is the Police and Crime Commissioner for Northumbria.

0:41:09 > 0:41:13Thank you for joining us today. Nicole, let's start with you. Can

0:41:13 > 0:41:18you talk us through what happened to you?I was in hospital because I

0:41:18 > 0:41:27lost mobility in my legs. It was a neurology hospital in London. At the

0:41:27 > 0:41:32time, I was at my weakest stage, because my ex partner had left me,

0:41:32 > 0:41:40so I was very lonely, and I wanted to have a friend. I met this lady in

0:41:40 > 0:41:46the hospital, on the same ward as myself, and we quickly befriended

0:41:46 > 0:41:54each other. We became very close, so I trusted her. Things were good at

0:41:54 > 0:42:01the start, but then she started at the beginning just asking me for a

0:42:01 > 0:42:09favour, saying, I don't want to take advantage of you, are you sure? Can

0:42:09 > 0:42:13I borrow £300 towards a deposit the wrap wheelchair? I said it was fine,

0:42:13 > 0:42:18so I went with her to withdraw the money and do that. -- for a

0:42:18 > 0:42:24wheelchair? She then said she would pay me back. It never happened, so

0:42:24 > 0:42:30obviously, every time she kept continuously asking.And you were in

0:42:30 > 0:42:37hospital at the time?I was in hospital for ten days. When I was at

0:42:37 > 0:42:43my hostel where I used to live, she used to call me to go round to her

0:42:43 > 0:42:46house, to say that she wanted company, and that is when she would

0:42:46 > 0:42:50take advantage of me by getting me to spend out on fancy restaurants

0:42:50 > 0:42:55and food, take control of my card. When I would ask for my card back,

0:42:55 > 0:43:01she would be like, don't you trust me or something? Then she would

0:43:01 > 0:43:05carry on asking for big amounts, saying she would pay me back.How

0:43:05 > 0:43:13much more?In total, she took

0:43:13 > 0:43:18much more?In total, she took over £5,000, over time, so 200 year, 100

0:43:18 > 0:43:22there. She made a plan with me to pay back the money, and she was

0:43:22 > 0:43:28doing that to a certain extent, but then, before Christmas, she made an

0:43:28 > 0:43:35excuse, saying, I can't pay. But she never paid. Beyond that, she said

0:43:35 > 0:43:39she wasn't going to ask me for money any more because she said she wasn't

0:43:39 > 0:43:43in need, and then continued to ask for more amounts of money. She knew

0:43:43 > 0:43:50my payday when I was getting my benefit, and that is when she were

0:43:50 > 0:43:55took advantage, until the point where I had no money left. When I

0:43:55 > 0:43:59had no money left, she didn't want to know me, so she didn't want to be

0:43:59 > 0:44:03my friend. That's pretty much what has happened.Thanks for telling us

0:44:03 > 0:44:08and sharing your story. Clothier, you help people like Nicole - how

0:44:08 > 0:44:19common is this? -- Claudia.Quite common.

0:44:19 > 0:44:23common. Obviously, the disability is not quite visual, it is hidden. They

0:44:23 > 0:44:28are in the worst situation to be exploited in lots of ways. The

0:44:28 > 0:44:33exploitation can take place as financial, emotional, sexual, so all

0:44:33 > 0:44:41forms of abuse. It is safeguarding issue. It is something do deal with

0:44:41 > 0:44:46is quite commonly.How do you deal with those cases? How can you help

0:44:46 > 0:44:53people like Nicole? I imagine sometimes it may be too late. It

0:44:53 > 0:44:59may, the stage when, like you, you had given away all your money.The

0:44:59 > 0:45:05damage was done, and for me, this lady ruined my life, because she

0:45:05 > 0:45:08also pressured me into getting a contract for her and her husband,

0:45:08 > 0:45:12promising to pay, and she never did, and I got into debt. She has left me

0:45:12 > 0:45:16in a lot of trouble, obviously. I came to a point where I couldn't pay

0:45:16 > 0:45:23my rent and I was in arrears at the hostel. If it wasn't for the support

0:45:23 > 0:45:28of Camden People first, and my family, I would be on the streets. I

0:45:28 > 0:45:33was in that situation where I was broke.I want to bring in Sheree

0:45:33 > 0:45:36Green necks. Why is it so difficult for the law to help people like

0:45:36 > 0:45:41Nicole?

0:45:42 > 0:45:49Nicole and her desperately difficult and painful story, Nicole is also a

0:45:49 > 0:45:54very articulate person. She is able to describe what has happened. She

0:45:54 > 0:45:59would, to all intense and purposes, be somebody who the law may judge

0:45:59 > 0:46:06has capacity to make their own decisions. Now, if Nicole was in a

0:46:06 > 0:46:09different position, if she was not so articulate and didn't quite

0:46:09 > 0:46:16understand what was happening around her, there would be some protective

0:46:16 > 0:46:20measures under the Mental Capacity Act which provides a framework and a

0:46:20 > 0:46:23structure within which services can work together to support people and

0:46:23 > 0:46:27to protect them and to take matters to the court. When somebody though

0:46:27 > 0:46:31has capacity to make their own decisions, they are as you said in

0:46:31 > 0:46:36your introduction, they are seen as making these decisions freely, being

0:46:36 > 0:46:43their choice. But that is masking what is truly going on because

0:46:43 > 0:46:48Nicole in that situation doesn't actually have very much free choice.

0:46:48 > 0:46:57She is in a coercive and controlling relationship. So, in that sense, she

0:46:57 > 0:47:03is vulnerable to the advances to the manipulation of this person and

0:47:03 > 0:47:09there is no clear legal pathway for authorities to plan, to work

0:47:09 > 0:47:16together, to protect people in thosecisions.But for domestic abuse

0:47:16 > 0:47:20cases there was a coercive control order introduced. Would that work

0:47:20 > 0:47:28for cases like Nicole's?You're right, yes. So, intimate

0:47:28 > 0:47:32relationships, the serious crime act has identified that manipulation,

0:47:32 > 0:47:36control, has a serious impact on somebody's life, financially and in

0:47:36 > 0:47:41all other areas, but that at the moment is only available to couples,

0:47:41 > 0:47:50family members living together. Something like that extended to

0:47:50 > 0:47:54friends, acquaintances, informal carers, neighbours, may provide a

0:47:54 > 0:47:58criminal remedy, but the difficulty is, of course is that sometimes it's

0:47:58 > 0:48:03a question of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.

0:48:03 > 0:48:10Nicole would still possibly not get her money back.Vera, how much

0:48:10 > 0:48:14responsibility do the police have when it comes to vulnerable people?

0:48:14 > 0:48:20Well, they do have a responsibility. Nicole only suffered, I don't want

0:48:20 > 0:48:25to make it sound small, it is extremely grave, but often this

0:48:25 > 0:48:28escalates and does become criminal so that people are not only have

0:48:28 > 0:48:32their money removed, but they are threatened, they might be physically

0:48:32 > 0:48:36assaulted. Their house might be taken over. They will bring people

0:48:36 > 0:48:40who deal drugs or have a great party, they will go every week and

0:48:40 > 0:48:45spend their benefits and give them a lift to town and charge them £30 and

0:48:45 > 0:48:49along the way criminality does commence there are two real

0:48:49 > 0:48:59characteristics about what is called me crime, very few people report it

0:48:59 > 0:49:03and she understandably and a lot of people who have got learning

0:49:03 > 0:49:06difficulties don't expect to be believed, first of all they are

0:49:06 > 0:49:10afraid and don't expect to be believed. Charities think there are

0:49:10 > 0:49:14more than 100,000 kinds of situations like this every year, but

0:49:14 > 0:49:18that only about 2% ever come to the attention of the authorities. So the

0:49:18 > 0:49:24first thing is to make sure everybody works together so local

0:49:24 > 0:49:27neighbours, charities, learning disability charities, social

0:49:27 > 0:49:31services, the police, if it's not a crime, it is a safeguarding issue

0:49:31 > 0:49:35for absolute certainty, but it does often turn into criminality and I

0:49:35 > 0:49:41think there is a lot to

0:49:41 > 0:49:44think there is a lot to be said for that in due course you need to

0:49:44 > 0:49:47extend coercive control. The police now understand that just because

0:49:47 > 0:49:51somebody is not complaining of a crime themselves doesn't mean it is

0:49:51 > 0:49:57not happening. They are used to modern slavery and trafficking and

0:49:57 > 0:50:00child sexual exploitation and domestic abuse in which the person

0:50:00 > 0:50:04is controlled and unable to ask for help. That's probably that is

0:50:04 > 0:50:08something that could go part here. So it is organisations working

0:50:08 > 0:50:13together. What advice would you give to maybe someone watching who maybe

0:50:13 > 0:50:15in a vulnerable situation themselves? What are the warning

0:50:15 > 0:50:21signs? What should they do?Well, we go around and we actually got

0:50:21 > 0:50:25funding from Choice for London to do training to both professionals as

0:50:25 > 0:50:30well as people with learning disabilities. Professionals on the

0:50:30 > 0:50:34side of what they need to look for in their clients and in their

0:50:34 > 0:50:38service users. That means social services, social workers,

0:50:38 > 0:50:43collisioners, psychologists, GPs and we also provide training to schools

0:50:43 > 0:50:50in terms of education because we find out within the age range of 13

0:50:50 > 0:50:55teenagers that, where it is more prevalent. It is indicators that

0:50:55 > 0:50:59they need to look out for. In terms of learning disabilities we

0:50:59 > 0:51:05encourage them to talk about it and we support them and report it to the

0:51:05 > 0:51:15police or social services so it can be flagged up and as

0:51:15 > 0:51:28be flagged up and as well to the GP How are things for youIt is not

0:51:28 > 0:51:32something you can forget when someone does that to you especially

0:51:32 > 0:51:40when all you do is offer your kindness

0:51:40 > 0:51:44kindness to help and support them. Are things better for you now?My

0:51:44 > 0:51:49life is better now. I moved on from that and I am not in touch with this

0:51:49 > 0:51:54person anymore.

0:51:58 > 0:52:03Do you want to show them the T-shirt, Nicole?Our organisation,

0:52:03 > 0:52:12we have done T-shirts that say, if you are my friend, why hurt me?

0:52:12 > 0:52:21Let's stop crime happening.Thank you for joining us this morning.

0:52:21 > 0:52:27Report it and don't be afraid is the message. You can hear more on this

0:52:27 > 0:52:29story this evening on Radio 4 at 8pm.

0:52:29 > 0:52:32Stars of the silver screen will find out today if they've made it

0:52:32 > 0:52:34onto the list of nominees for this year's Oscars.

0:52:34 > 0:52:37Winners in each of the 24 categories will be announced at the 90th

0:52:37 > 0:52:39Academy Awards ceremony on the 4th of March.

0:52:39 > 0:52:42After a year in which Hollywood has been rocked by sexual abuse scandals

0:52:42 > 0:52:45and controversy over diversity and the gender pay gap,

0:52:45 > 0:52:47the nominations will be scrutinised more closely than ever.

0:52:47 > 0:52:55Let's take a look at who might make the cut.

0:53:03 > 0:53:07When will the lesson be learned?

0:53:07 > 0:53:08How many more dictators must be wooed,

0:53:08 > 0:53:15appeased, good God, given immense privileges, before we learned?

0:53:15 > 0:53:17You cannot reason with a tiger when your

0:53:17 > 0:53:25head is in its mouth.

0:53:31 > 0:53:32Muchos gracias.

0:53:32 > 0:53:34De nada, Miguel.

0:53:40 > 0:53:43My daughter, Angela, was murdered seven months ago.

0:53:43 > 0:53:46It seems to me the police department is too busy

0:53:46 > 0:53:48torturing black folks to solve actual crime.

0:53:48 > 0:53:49What the hell is this?

0:53:49 > 0:53:57Dixon, I'm in the middle of my goddamn Easter dinner.

0:54:03 > 0:54:05Good to see an old brother around here.

0:54:05 > 0:54:06Oh, yes, of course it is.

0:54:06 > 0:54:14Something wrong?

0:54:20 > 0:54:23Here to talk us through the runners and riders is Helen O'Hara,

0:54:23 > 0:54:31Editor at Large at Empire Magazine.

0:54:33 > 0:54:37A big day for you. Talk us through what you are tipping today?We can

0:54:37 > 0:54:42expect to see Three Billboards. A weird title, but it has done very

0:54:42 > 0:54:47well at the Golden Globes. We will probably see The Shape Of Water

0:54:47 > 0:54:52which is a monster movie. It is not something you see up for Oscars, but

0:54:52 > 0:54:57it has done very well. Steven Spielberg's The Post.Mer rel

0:54:57 > 0:55:06Streep.All three together.How many has she won?She won three.She has

0:55:06 > 0:55:13been nominated a lot.18 times. That could happen. You saw Darkest Hour.

0:55:13 > 0:55:17So it is a weird year. It is very open. There is no absolute

0:55:17 > 0:55:24frontrunner yet. I think mostly Three Billboards, but it could go

0:55:24 > 0:55:28any way.How important is it to have British talent up there?It is

0:55:28 > 0:55:32pretty standard! We're always there somewhere especially in the acting

0:55:32 > 0:55:36categories and the directing categories. I think there will be a

0:55:36 > 0:55:41few British directors up as well.We saw stars making a big statement

0:55:41 > 0:55:45wearing black at the Golden Globes as a show of solidarity and part of

0:55:45 > 0:55:50the Me Too movement, do you think we will see something similar today,

0:55:50 > 0:55:56the nominations announcements or at the Oscars?Possibly. What they did

0:55:56 > 0:56:01with the Golden Globes they kept it secret until the last minute and we

0:56:01 > 0:56:06only heard because a few stylists leaked it. I do think this is going

0:56:06 > 0:56:10to continue to be the topic of conversation in Hollywood because

0:56:10 > 0:56:14they're doing a lot of soul-searching and rightly so from

0:56:14 > 0:56:17all the stories we've learned over the past few months.Do you think

0:56:17 > 0:56:20what has happened over the past, I don't know, six months, do you think

0:56:20 > 0:56:24it will play into somehow the nomination announcements today?I

0:56:24 > 0:56:27think the nomination announcements, it is a fairly standard thing. I

0:56:27 > 0:56:30don't think it will be a big issue there. I think it will be at the

0:56:30 > 0:56:32ceremony itself and in the interviews and the speeches, that's

0:56:32 > 0:56:36where it is really, really going to come to the fore.I suppose more in

0:56:36 > 0:56:41terms as well as representation of women in those categories, dregging

0:56:41 > 0:56:47for example?Directing would be a big one because there haven't been

0:56:47 > 0:56:53any women nominated.

0:56:53 > 0:56:56any women nominated. Ladybird is a fantastic film in the running. There

0:56:56 > 0:57:01are so few women directors. So few get the chance to direct their

0:57:01 > 0:57:05second film and build that up. It is hard to build the momentum that the

0:57:05 > 0:57:11men can. There are men making films one a year. No woman has the chance

0:57:11 > 0:57:16and that's one thing that has to change.The Oscars has been

0:57:16 > 0:57:23criticised for lack of diversity. We have had So White Oscars so how do

0:57:23 > 0:57:26you think this year will be different or the same to previous

0:57:26 > 0:57:31years?I think it will be different. There are great films by non-white

0:57:31 > 0:57:39people that are going to be nominated. I personally feel Get Out

0:57:39 > 0:57:43is the main one and I think it will take the prize. Dount know why I

0:57:43 > 0:57:51think that, but I do. There are baby steps in the direction, but it's

0:57:51 > 0:57:58slow because it depends on the films that are being made.

0:58:01 > 0:58:07that are being made.Denzel Washington and Mary J Blige?

0:58:07 > 0:58:09Washington and Mary J Blige?Yes densele Washington, a fantastic

0:58:09 > 0:58:15film. The film hasn't had a lot of buzz so it is hard to say.How long

0:58:15 > 0:58:19will it take before we see the changes in the film industry, do you

0:58:19 > 0:58:27think?I think we already. I think Sundance has many for female

0:58:27 > 0:58:35directors. I think we are beginning to see more women given

0:58:35 > 0:58:38opportunities like Patty Jenkins. So I think it is beginning to happen.

0:58:38 > 0:58:43It is just so slow and I think what has happened over the last six

0:58:43 > 0:58:46months is accelerating the process and it is not just people like me

0:58:46 > 0:58:49making a noise about it on the internet it is in the board rooms,

0:58:49 > 0:58:52people are saying why don't we have more women directors? They make

0:58:52 > 0:58:57money and it is a foolish thing to ignore half your audience. In fact

0:58:57 > 0:59:02slightly half of people who go to the cinema are female. We need to

0:59:02 > 0:59:07see our stories represented and people of every colour and people of

0:59:07 > 0:59:12every ability, it pays to do this and they need to realise that.And

0:59:12 > 0:59:19quickly, your prediction for Best Film?I think Get Out. It would be

0:59:19 > 0:59:26perfect if that won. It is a great film. So meaningful and yet so

0:59:26 > 0:59:30clever at the same time.To find out which stars get the Oscar

0:59:30 > 0:59:33nomination, you can watch our special show later today. We will

0:59:33 > 0:59:38bring you the announcement live as it happens from Hollywood from

0:59:38 > 0:59:421.15pm lunch time on the BBC News Channel.

0:59:42 > 0:59:45OK, let's get the latest weather update from Matt

0:59:45 > 0:59:48OK, let's get the latest weather update from Matt Taylor. Thank you

0:59:48 > 0:59:54very much, Tina. It has been a month defined by wintry weather. Today may

0:59:54 > 0:59:57come as a shock. We have snow in some parts of the country, but some

0:59:57 > 1:00:03of that is going set to disappear. Mild air coming in today. We have

1:00:03 > 1:00:08seen rain in most areas today. Some heavier bursts in Scotland and the

1:00:08 > 1:00:11far north of England and the rest of the day, lighter showers and

1:00:11 > 1:00:17sunshine in between. More in the way of dry or brighter weather. The big

1:00:17 > 1:00:21story is the temperatures, double figures widely, could be 12 or 13

1:00:21 > 1:00:26Celsius in Eastern Scotland and Wales, maybe up to 15 Celsius. We

1:00:26 > 1:00:30stay with the mild theme into tonight. Temperatures will drop away

1:00:30 > 1:00:34for a time in Northern Scotland. For most, into tomorrow morning, it is

1:00:34 > 1:00:37another mild start, but tomorrow windier than today, gales if not

1:00:37 > 1:00:42severe gales to come and heavy rain as well through the morning across

1:00:42 > 1:00:46northern and western England and Wales. Wettest, windiest weather

1:00:46 > 1:00:50towards the south and the east through the afternoon, but blustery

1:00:50 > 1:00:52across the north of Scotland. Tomorrow, sunshine and showers and

1:00:52 > 1:00:58it is going to feel cooler once again. Bye for now.

1:01:00 > 1:01:01Hello.

1:01:01 > 1:01:02It's 10 o'clock, I'm Tina Dahely.

1:01:02 > 1:01:05The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is calling for an extra £100 million

1:01:05 > 1:01:08a week for the NHS - but is the money available to ease

1:01:08 > 1:01:10pressure on services?

1:01:10 > 1:01:11Mr Johnson is the foreign secretary.

1:01:11 > 1:01:14I gave the Health Secretary an extra £6billion at the recent budget,

1:01:14 > 1:01:17and we will look at departmental allocations at the spending review

1:01:17 > 1:01:25when that takes place.

1:01:29 > 1:01:31Will have the latest from Westminster.

1:01:31 > 1:01:33Pamela Anderson has told us why she's spoken out

1:01:33 > 1:01:36in the wake of the Hollywood sexual harassment scandal.

1:01:36 > 1:01:38I've just learned too not put myself in positions

1:01:38 > 1:01:41where I could be in any danger, and I think that's

1:01:41 > 1:01:43an ok thing to say.

1:01:43 > 1:01:46And I've had some backlash, but I've also had a lot of support

1:01:46 > 1:01:48with women saying thank god for saying this, or men

1:01:48 > 1:01:50saying thank god for saying this too.

1:01:50 > 1:01:58You can see the entire interview with Pamela Anderson on our website.

1:01:59 > 1:02:05Also this morning, has the internet made life safer for women in the sex

1:02:05 > 1:02:10industry?The fact is, you wake up in the morning, work from nine till

1:02:10 > 1:02:13five, go home and see your family. It is what I do every day and it is

1:02:13 > 1:02:18just the business for me.We will look at the findings of a major

1:02:18 > 1:02:24study into online sex work.

1:02:24 > 1:02:25Good morning.

1:02:25 > 1:02:29Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

1:02:29 > 1:02:32The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is expected to press for more money

1:02:32 > 1:02:35for the NHS at a cabinet meeting that's currently underway

1:02:35 > 1:02:36in Downing Street.

1:02:36 > 1:02:39He'll make his case for call for an extra one hundred million

1:02:39 > 1:02:41pounds a week for the NHS when the Health Secretary,

1:02:41 > 1:02:44Jeremy Hunt, gives an update on how the service is coping this winter.

1:02:44 > 1:02:47We'll have more on this story from our assistant political editor

1:02:47 > 1:02:55Norman Smith in Downing Street shortly after this news summary.

1:02:56 > 1:02:59England is lagging behind Scotland and Wales when it comes to

1:02:59 > 1:03:02introducing measures to improve child health, according to a new

1:03:02 > 1:03:05report from the Royal College of paediatrics and Child health. It

1:03:05 > 1:03:09also warns that four out of five young people who are obese will

1:03:09 > 1:03:13battle ill health for the rest of their lives. Westminster insists it

1:03:13 > 1:03:18has world leading plans in place, and in the past year, both teen

1:03:18 > 1:03:22pregnancy and child mortality rates have fallen to all-time lows.

1:03:22 > 1:03:26An area of central London remains cordoned off this morning after a

1:03:26 > 1:03:29gas leak led to hundreds of people being evacuated from a nightclub and

1:03:29 > 1:03:34a hotel in the early hours. One of the capital's busier stations,

1:03:34 > 1:03:38Charing Cross, has been shut. Let's cross to Dan Johnson, who is at the

1:03:38 > 1:03:44scene. What is the latest?Charing Cross station remains close. It is

1:03:44 > 1:03:48used by around 80,000 people every day, so this has caused huge

1:03:48 > 1:03:52disruption for a lot of commuters coming into London from the

1:03:52 > 1:03:57south-east this morning. It is expected to continue for a few more

1:03:57 > 1:04:00hours. There are police, fire service teams and ambulances as

1:04:00 > 1:04:04well, but it seems to be in the hands of the gas engineers. They

1:04:04 > 1:04:07have given different estimates of how long it will take to resolve the

1:04:07 > 1:04:13problem, anything from reopening the station at 10am, maybe midday, maybe

1:04:13 > 1:04:17even into this afternoon, so it looks like the disruption will

1:04:17 > 1:04:21continue for some time. This part of London, normally very busy, is

1:04:21 > 1:04:24completely quiet this morning, and commuters are facing a lot of

1:04:24 > 1:04:32disruption.Thank you, Dan Johnson. Nigel Farage has said that the

1:04:32 > 1:04:35refusal of current Ukip leader Henry Bolton to resign could be a

1:04:35 > 1:04:42lifeline. 16 party members have quit over Mr Bolton's decision not to

1:04:42 > 1:04:46stand down in the wake of his girlfriend making racist remarks

1:04:46 > 1:04:50about Meghan Markle. Nigel Farage said in the daily Telegraph that Mr

1:04:50 > 1:04:54Bolton could use the occasion to force Ukip to reform.

1:04:54 > 1:04:56Police in Yorkshire looking for a missing schoolgirl have

1:04:56 > 1:04:58found a body in a river.

1:04:58 > 1:05:00Ursula Keogh, who's from Halifax, was last seen on Monday afternoon

1:05:00 > 1:05:02dressed in her school uniform.

1:05:02 > 1:05:03Police say there are no suspicious circumstances

1:05:03 > 1:05:05surrounding the death, but are continuing to

1:05:05 > 1:05:06establish the cause.

1:05:06 > 1:05:13Her family have been told.

1:05:13 > 1:05:16Legendary South African jazz trumpeter Hugh Massa Kaler has died

1:05:16 > 1:05:20in hospital in Johannesburg. He was 78 and had been receiving treatment

1:05:20 > 1:05:27for prostate cancer. A leading anti-apartheid campaigner...

1:05:27 > 1:05:29That's a summary of the latest BBC campaigner...

1:05:29 > 1:05:31News - more at 10.30.

1:05:31 > 1:05:33Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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1:05:41 > 1:05:47Time now for sport with Holly. We begin with the news that Kyle

1:05:47 > 1:05:51Edmund has reached the semifinal of the Australian open, making him only

1:05:51 > 1:05:55the sixth British man to do that in the open area. He beat Grigor

1:05:55 > 1:06:00Dimitrov in four sets to reach the last format in just two hours and 49

1:06:00 > 1:06:03minutes. He said afterwards that it is an amazing feeling and he now

1:06:03 > 1:06:07knows what it feels like to be Andy Murray. The British number one, who

1:06:07 > 1:06:15is recovering from a hip operation, tweeted simply, wow! A win in the

1:06:15 > 1:06:21semifinal would put him above Andy Murray in the rankings. Leon Smith

1:06:21 > 1:06:26said that Kyle Edmund's confidence has been growing.The coaching team

1:06:26 > 1:06:30and himself have been trying to get a bit more out of him, whether it is

1:06:30 > 1:06:33shouting come on or more fist bumps. He walked out today in front of

1:06:33 > 1:06:3915,000 with his head up, walking tall, and I thought, he is in a good

1:06:39 > 1:06:46mood and a good steak for this match. That confidence is going to

1:06:46 > 1:06:51really help in moving forward this year.Kyle Edmund will face the

1:06:51 > 1:06:55winner of this match next. On court right now, Rafael Nadal and Marin

1:06:55 > 1:07:02Cilic, the world number one and number four. Nadal took the opening

1:07:02 > 1:07:05set, and Cilic has taken the second. It is shaping up to be an exciting

1:07:05 > 1:07:10match. In the last few minutes, the LTA has

1:07:10 > 1:07:13announced that Kyle Edmund will be included in the British Davis cup

1:07:13 > 1:07:23team. No Andy Murray. To football, and after brilliantly

1:07:23 > 1:07:26ending Manchester City's unbeaten run last weekend, Liverpool followed

1:07:26 > 1:07:30that result with defeat against the Premier league's bottom side.

1:07:30 > 1:07:34Swansea City stayed in touch with their relegation rivals with a

1:07:34 > 1:07:39crucial 1-0 win at the liberty stadium. The first half goal saw

1:07:39 > 1:07:43them moved to within three points of safety, Liverpool missing the chance

1:07:43 > 1:07:47to go third.I didn't use the word frustration too often because it is

1:07:47 > 1:07:54a little different in German, but tonight I am frustrated and angry

1:07:54 > 1:08:01because it was not necessary. It was not a good game for us,

1:08:01 > 1:08:03not a good game for us, because our tactical discipline, especially

1:08:03 > 1:08:08offensively, was not good enough. We lost a game in the first half.

1:08:08 > 1:08:13Ben Stokes won't join up with the England team for the tour of New

1:08:13 > 1:08:17Zealand until after his appearance at Bristol magistrates Court, which

1:08:17 > 1:08:21is on the same day as he was supposed to be making his

1:08:21 > 1:08:24international comeback in a Twenty20 match. He is charged with affray

1:08:24 > 1:08:28after an incident outside a Bristol nightclub in November.

1:08:28 > 1:08:39England's knuckleballer -- netballers have lost their match at

1:08:39 > 1:08:43London's copper box arena. England will travel to Johannesburg to face

1:08:43 > 1:08:48South Africa in the final match on Sunday.

1:08:48 > 1:08:53You can follow all the latest from Melbourne on our website, where

1:08:53 > 1:08:56Nadal and Cilic are battling it out in the quarterfinal. More on that

1:08:56 > 1:09:05later.

1:09:05 > 1:09:06The BBC understands that the Foreign Secretary,

1:09:06 > 1:09:08Boris Johnson, is calling for an extra £100 million

1:09:08 > 1:09:11a week for the NHS in England, at a Cabinet meeting that's

1:09:11 > 1:09:12going on now.

1:09:12 > 1:09:15A number of senior ministers are said to be concerned

1:09:15 > 1:09:17that the government is not paying enough attention to

1:09:17 > 1:09:18the health service.

1:09:18 > 1:09:20But arriving in Brussels for talks with EU finance ministers,

1:09:20 > 1:09:22the Chancellor, Philip Hammond, suggested the government's current

1:09:22 > 1:09:23financial plans wouldn't change.

1:09:27 > 1:09:32I have never known it to be as bad as it is now.They are marvellous,

1:09:32 > 1:09:42these two men. I was in agony.Were supposed to be the country in the

1:09:42 > 1:09:48world and we're nowhere near that. Progressively getting worse,

1:09:48 > 1:09:54definitely.We have no rooms in the A&E department, so these patients

1:09:54 > 1:10:03are waiting for a bed.It feels like a disaster zone. It is completely

1:10:03 > 1:10:05under strain, bursting at the seams.

1:10:05 > 1:10:10Our political guru, Norman Smith, is in Downing Street.

1:10:10 > 1:10:15Hello again, Norman. What is behind this push for money from Boris

1:10:15 > 1:10:20Johnson, the Foreign Secretary?Good question, because it is certainly a

1:10:20 > 1:10:23curious way that Boris Johnson is going about this, to publicly let it

1:10:23 > 1:10:29be known ahead of Cabinet that he is going to be demanding more cash for

1:10:29 > 1:10:33the NHS, and I suspect at Downing Street they are not best pleased by

1:10:33 > 1:10:37his antics, because normally Cabinet meetings are supposed to be

1:10:37 > 1:10:41precisely that - Cabinet meetings where ministers privately discuss

1:10:41 > 1:10:45sensitive issues. Boris Johnson has flagged up very publicly that he

1:10:45 > 1:10:48will stand up and say, you know what, we really had to give 100

1:10:48 > 1:10:53million more to the NHS after Brexit. Arriving this morning, he

1:10:53 > 1:10:56wasn't really saying very much when he was pressed about this. Just have

1:10:56 > 1:11:02a listen.

1:11:02 > 1:11:04a listen.Mr Johnson is the Foreign Secretary. I gave the Health

1:11:04 > 1:11:09Secretary an extra £6 billion at the recent budget, and we'll look at

1:11:09 > 1:11:13departmental allocations again at the spending review when that takes

1:11:13 > 1:11:20place.Sorry, slight technical confusion - that was Philip Hammond

1:11:20 > 1:11:23giving Boris Johnson a bit of a clip about the head for making those

1:11:23 > 1:11:27comments about the NHS, because Boris Johnson is not the Health

1:11:27 > 1:11:32Secretary. So what is going on? A few things cinematic one is that

1:11:32 > 1:11:34Boris Johnson is seeking to underscore that hugely contentious

1:11:34 > 1:11:38claim he made in the referendum campaign, the one on the side of the

1:11:38 > 1:11:43bus, that there would be £350 million a week more for the NHS. Now

1:11:43 > 1:11:47he is saying there will be 100 million more, or he would like there

1:11:47 > 1:11:52to be. That is roughly the net figure. Once you take away from the

1:11:52 > 1:11:59350 million all the money we get back from the EU, you come to about

1:11:59 > 1:12:04100 million. Mr Johnson is seeking to vindicate himself, maybe to force

1:12:04 > 1:12:10Mrs May now to go along with his claim. The second thing going on May

1:12:10 > 1:12:14be Mr Johnson same, I have big, brash, bold ideas at a time when Mrs

1:12:14 > 1:12:18May is facing an awful lot of criticism for not coming forward

1:12:18 > 1:12:24with really radical thinking. Some in the Conservative party, such as

1:12:24 > 1:12:28the chair of the health committee, saying, never mind, at least Mr

1:12:28 > 1:12:33Johnson is talking about more money for the NHS.Having more allies in

1:12:33 > 1:12:37Cabinet calling for more funding for NHS and social care is very welcome

1:12:37 > 1:12:41as far as I am concerned, but I think we need to look not just that

1:12:41 > 1:12:46the human now but at the long term, and not just the NHS but the whole

1:12:46 > 1:12:50picture of the NHS, social care and prevention, that's to say public

1:12:50 > 1:12:54health. See that all is a big system and how we are going to fund the

1:12:54 > 1:13:00serious increase in demand. All the facilities that we have in the NHS,

1:13:00 > 1:13:08the capital projects that need tackling as well.Interesting to

1:13:08 > 1:13:15find out how other Cabinet ministers react to Boris Johnson's comments.

1:13:15 > 1:13:19Brexit supporters may think he has a point. The Government has to spell

1:13:19 > 1:13:23out a slightly more positive narrative when it comes to Brexit.

1:13:23 > 1:13:28Talking about an extra 100 million once we leave the EU, that is a good

1:13:28 > 1:13:35way to do it. Norman, thank you very much.

1:13:35 > 1:13:37The Shadow Health Secretary, Jonathan Ashworth,

1:13:37 > 1:13:40is at Westminster.

1:13:40 > 1:13:45Let's get your response to Boris Johnson's comments, the Foreign

1:13:45 > 1:13:48Secretary calling for more money for the health service.It is Boris

1:13:48 > 1:13:53Johnson playing games, isn't it? Hears weaponisation the NHS if you

1:13:53 > 1:13:59like for his own internal Tory Party games. He is calling for an ex £5

1:13:59 > 1:14:02billion for the NHS, which is what we are calling for, but where has he

1:14:02 > 1:14:07been for the last two years? We had a budget last autumn where the

1:14:07 > 1:14:11Government failed to give the NHS the funding it needed, so where was

1:14:11 > 1:14:16he a header that? This is all about Boris Johnson. He is not concerned

1:14:16 > 1:14:19about patients waiting on trolleys in corridors and those elderly

1:14:19 > 1:14:26people in the back of ambulances waiting to be treated. It is his

1:14:26 > 1:14:30tedious political gain. If they were serious about putting money into the

1:14:30 > 1:14:35NHS, they would have done it in the budget last autumn.Boris Johnson

1:14:35 > 1:14:38making these comments, announcing them before the Cabinet meeting

1:14:38 > 1:14:43today, if that puts pressure on the Health Secretary and Theresa May to

1:14:43 > 1:14:45give the health service an extra hundred million pounds a week, which

1:14:45 > 1:14:49is what you were going to call for as a party on Thursday, what is the

1:14:49 > 1:14:54harm in it?Quite. If it puts pressure on them, fine, but why did

1:14:54 > 1:15:01he not put pressure on before we had the budget last November

1:15:01 > 1:15:05the budget last November was the last nerve -- last November? The

1:15:05 > 1:15:09time to do it was ahead of the budget in November, and we didn't

1:15:09 > 1:15:13hear a peep from him. It makes me think he's playing games about the

1:15:13 > 1:15:16Tory Party leadership. You're right, people are making the argument to

1:15:16 > 1:15:21put the money in an following Labour's lead, and that is welcome,

1:15:21 > 1:15:26but I am a little cynical about Boris Johnson's motives, to be

1:15:26 > 1:15:31frank.And where will the money come from?

1:15:31 > 1:15:35That's a good question for Boris Johnson.Both.Well, it would be

1:15:35 > 1:15:37interesting to see where Boris Johnson wants the money to come

1:15:37 > 1:15:41from, but the Labour Party has been clear, we would actually put up tax

1:15:41 > 1:15:45for the very wealthiest people in society. We would ask them to pay a

1:15:45 > 1:15:48little bit extra and we would make different decisions about

1:15:48 > 1:15:52corporation tax which had billions of pounds of tax cuts. So I would be

1:15:52 > 1:15:55interested to see where Boris Johnson think he will get the money

1:15:55 > 1:15:58from if he is prepared to join with us in saying that the wealthiest in

1:15:58 > 1:16:02society and the big corporation should pay a little bit extra tax so

1:16:02 > 1:16:06we don't have elderly people on trolleys in corridors like we saw on

1:16:06 > 1:16:09the news last night. Heartbreaking stuff on the BBC News last night we

1:16:09 > 1:16:13saw.I would be interested to find out if the money did materialise how

1:16:13 > 1:16:18you would spend it, what you would prioritise because this comes on a

1:16:18 > 1:16:23day when we are hearing that child poverty in England is at its highest

1:16:23 > 1:16:27level since 2010 and one in three 11-year-olds are overweight or

1:16:27 > 1:16:33obese.We have got to find out what's happening in our hospitals.

1:16:33 > 1:16:36We have got 100,000 vacancies, we are short of 40,000 staff, so we

1:16:36 > 1:16:40have got to be training the doctors and nurses we need. So that would be

1:16:40 > 1:16:45a priority for the money and retain the staff that we've got. A fair pay

1:16:45 > 1:16:48rise, but we have got a report out today about British children being

1:16:48 > 1:16:52some of the unhealthiest there is and I've got an ambition that we

1:16:52 > 1:16:54have the healthiest children in the world and that means investing in

1:16:54 > 1:16:58children's health. It is unacceptable that so many children

1:16:58 > 1:17:05leave school obese or have tooth decay and when they become

1:17:05 > 1:17:08adolescence children's mental health service in this country are

1:17:08 > 1:17:14disgraceful. Disgusting level of services. We heard this yesterday on

1:17:14 > 1:17:18the BBC's World At One programme. We have got to invest in children's

1:17:18 > 1:17:21mental health. Lots of big calls for extra investment in the NHS, but we

1:17:21 > 1:17:26have got to put the money in because the NHS is on its knees under the

1:17:26 > 1:17:30Tories.The Cabinet meeting is happening as we speak. Thank you

1:17:30 > 1:17:37very much for joining us. John Ashworth there. Henry Bolton

1:17:37 > 1:17:45insisted he won't resign despite the regular ig nation of at least 14

1:17:45 > 1:17:49party spokes people. I have been speaking to Nigel Farage and I asked

1:17:49 > 1:17:54him where his allegiances lie.I'm not backing Henry Bolton, but I'm

1:17:54 > 1:17:59backing him take this to the next stage. He lost a vote of confidence

1:17:59 > 1:18:02from Ukip's National Executive Committee. He has the option to take

1:18:02 > 1:18:07that to a general meeting of the members. He has opted to do that. I

1:18:07 > 1:18:14say good.So you are backing him not quitting...I'm backing us having an

1:18:14 > 1:18:17EJM, he stood outside that hotel in Folkestone yesterday and said over

1:18:17 > 1:18:20the course of the next month he would introduce a new constitution

1:18:20 > 1:18:23that would get rid of the power of the National Executive Committee. I

1:18:23 > 1:18:26can tell you as somebody who led Ukip for many years, in the last two

1:18:26 > 1:18:33years of my tenure I couldn't do any of the things I wanted to do because

1:18:33 > 1:18:37a group of amateurs who had never been involved in politics before,

1:18:37 > 1:18:40stopped me from doing them.I thought it was 15 senior members who

1:18:40 > 1:18:46quit at the last count, you have informed me it is 16?Look, Henry

1:18:46 > 1:18:49Bolton has made some big mistakes. No question about that. The whole

1:18:49 > 1:18:57thing looks like a bit of a soap opera. It is entertaining for the

1:18:57 > 1:19:00cartoonists, but people who care about Ukip say, "What is happening

1:19:00 > 1:19:05to my party?" Jeremy Corbyn had 21 Shadow Cabinet members resigned from

1:19:05 > 1:19:08his front bench and he managed to get the party membership with him...

1:19:08 > 1:19:14I heard you say...Yes.Henry Bolton can become Ukip's version of Jeremy

1:19:14 > 1:19:18Corbyn. Now, do you really believe that or are you just trying to hand

1:19:18 > 1:19:24him a lifeline?No, I want to hand the party a lifeline. What is going

1:19:24 > 1:19:28to happen at this meeting. Is Ukip fit for purpose? At the moment it is

1:19:28 > 1:19:32run by a bunch of amateurs who haven't got a clue what they're

1:19:32 > 1:19:36doing. They're running the thing into the ground and stopping any new

1:19:36 > 1:19:39leader from being able to lead and the whole thing needs reform. I

1:19:39 > 1:19:44would say this to you, unless Ukip goes through fundamental reform now,

1:19:44 > 1:19:48it will be dead within 18 months. Surely Henry Bolton is delaying the

1:19:48 > 1:19:51inevitable because when the membership do vote on it, it is

1:19:51 > 1:19:54likely he's going to go anyway and be forced to quit which is even

1:19:54 > 1:20:01worse for the party.If this EGM was tomorrow, he would lose heavily, no

1:20:01 > 1:20:06question. But he has a month and he has a microphone and he has a

1:20:06 > 1:20:09profile and if he's able in the course of the next month to show

1:20:09 > 1:20:13that he's thought through where the party needs to be, things could be

1:20:13 > 1:20:16very different.At the heart of this, isn't it really just a case

1:20:16 > 1:20:20that there is no point in the Ukip party anymore because Brexit is

1:20:20 > 1:20:25happening?I think at the general election last June, I think millions

1:20:25 > 1:20:30of people who at some point in the previous few years had voted Ukip

1:20:30 > 1:20:33locally or European or in general elections, I think they took the

1:20:33 > 1:20:38view, job done. Well done, lads. You know, you've done it. We don't need

1:20:38 > 1:20:44you anymore...And ladies...Of course. I was being generic. Now,

1:20:44 > 1:20:49what we see is a Prime Minister, who has made a series of concessions,

1:20:49 > 1:20:53and giving away money, power to foreign courts, hasn't even tried to

1:20:53 > 1:20:57get back things like our fishing waters...But we don't know what the

1:20:57 > 1:21:01terms of the deal are going to be, there is a period of negotiation

1:21:01 > 1:21:07that we're going through.It is increasingly beginning to look like

1:21:07 > 1:21:12at best as Brexit in name only.In your opinion.At worst she loses a

1:21:12 > 1:21:15vote in the House of Commons on the final deal that is struck with

1:21:15 > 1:21:18Michel Barnier and we get forced into a second referendum. Either

1:21:18 > 1:21:24way...Do you think we should have it?No. But I think Parliament may

1:21:24 > 1:21:29force us into it.I want to talk about you and your plans to launch a

1:21:29 > 1:21:32rival Brexit party?There are none. I tell you why, setting up a new

1:21:32 > 1:21:35political party in this country, getting it establish, getting the

1:21:35 > 1:21:39name known, getting people to understand what it stands for, is an

1:21:39 > 1:21:43incredibly difficult thing to do. I know. I spent 25 years of my life

1:21:43 > 1:21:50trying to do it with Ukip. Ukip, has had its good moments and going

1:21:50 > 1:21:54through one of its bad moments. People know it is the party that

1:21:54 > 1:21:58wants to take us out of the European Union and the party that dares to

1:21:58 > 1:22:03talk about the immigration issue and says we need to have controls, I

1:22:03 > 1:22:06want a reformed Ukip, when it comes to Brexit a lot of pressure needs to

1:22:06 > 1:22:12be applied.Nigel Farage, thank you very much.Thank you.

1:22:13 > 1:22:15Research published today has shown 80% of Britain's sex workers have

1:22:15 > 1:22:19been a victim of crime in the last five years and almost 40% of those

1:22:19 > 1:22:23surveyed would not report crimes to the police.

1:22:23 > 1:22:30It's part of a two year study which will finish later this year

1:22:33 > 1:22:36The majority of workers enter into the industry between the ages

1:22:36 > 1:22:39of 18-24 and the majority are educated with 22% of sex workers

1:22:39 > 1:22:44having degrees and 14% have postgraduate qualifications.

1:22:44 > 1:22:47In a moment we'll talk to one of the report's authors and a sex

1:22:47 > 1:22:49worker but first Leigh Milner reports on the realities

1:22:49 > 1:22:50of Britain's online sex industry.

1:22:50 > 1:22:52In an anonymous industrial unit in Basildon, there

1:22:52 > 1:22:55is what could be described as an intimate sex factory.

1:22:55 > 1:22:59Hidden in plain sight, this is the world of online sex work.

1:22:59 > 1:23:02Strictly models specialise in what's known as webcamming.

1:23:02 > 1:23:05It's mostly women performing in front of paying customers

1:23:05 > 1:23:08on the internet in real-time.

1:23:08 > 1:23:14The models don't actually take their clothes off, which is,

1:23:14 > 1:23:16I think for most people, they'll think, "What?

1:23:16 > 1:23:18Sex work, don't take your clothes off?"

1:23:18 > 1:23:21But you will find that there is a lot of lonely people out

1:23:21 > 1:23:23there who just want somebody to talk to.

1:23:23 > 1:23:25The company provides webcamming support services such as training,

1:23:25 > 1:23:26equipment and studios.

1:23:26 > 1:23:28The live video streams are routed through other web platforms.

1:23:28 > 1:23:31Models can also be paid daily and the customers,

1:23:31 > 1:23:34known as members, will chat either using the keyboard or microphone.

1:23:34 > 1:23:38What sort of people do you get in terms of range?

1:23:38 > 1:23:42It ranges, you know, obviously, the youngest being 18

1:23:42 > 1:23:43because that's the minimum age.

1:23:43 > 1:23:46But we have some models that are 70.

1:23:46 > 1:23:48It really ranges.

1:23:48 > 1:23:54Teachers, lawyers, cleaners, chefs, sales assistant...

1:23:54 > 1:23:57I'm really surprised, to be honest, by this place.

1:23:57 > 1:24:01Just sitting on this bed, it's not what I expected.

1:24:01 > 1:24:04It's a lot smaller, a little bit cosier, than I imagined,

1:24:04 > 1:24:06and it must be difficult for the models to really

1:24:06 > 1:24:07get into character.

1:24:07 > 1:24:11There is no real sexual atmosphere here.

1:24:11 > 1:24:17A report in 2016 by the Home Affairs Committee estimated

1:24:17 > 1:24:20that there are between 60,000 and 80,000 sex workers in the UK.

1:24:20 > 1:24:22Contacts are now much more likely to be made online.

1:24:22 > 1:24:26Now a two-year study called Beyond The Gaze by Leicester

1:24:26 > 1:24:28and Strathclyde universities attempts to better understand

1:24:28 > 1:24:30the lives of the people operating in this area

1:24:30 > 1:24:34and improve their safety.

1:24:34 > 1:24:3711 years ago, five young women were picked up off these streets

1:24:37 > 1:24:41in Ipswich and murdered by the serial killer Steve Wright.

1:24:41 > 1:24:47Street prostitution now only accounts for a small

1:24:47 > 1:24:50fraction of the UK market, just 3%, and while the new study

1:24:50 > 1:24:52confirms that levels of violence against Internet-based sex workers

1:24:52 > 1:25:00are considerably lower, new risks have emerged.

1:25:00 > 1:25:04We were told about persistent e-mailing, persistent phone calls,

1:25:04 > 1:25:07people turning up at the door of people's homes, and some of these

1:25:07 > 1:25:09had gone on for six, seven, eight years.

1:25:09 > 1:25:13One of the key issues is that sex workers are often very reluctant

1:25:13 > 1:25:16to report to the police.

1:25:16 > 1:25:18They feel that either nothing will be done

1:25:18 > 1:25:21about the issues or they fear that they will have reprisals.

1:25:21 > 1:25:23Charlotte Rose is one of the UK's most high-profile sex work

1:25:23 > 1:25:27activists and an escort.

1:25:27 > 1:25:30I'm stigmatised, marginalised, penalised, all the time.

1:25:30 > 1:25:31I've been threatened, I've been blackmailed.

1:25:31 > 1:25:33I've been evicted twice because of what I do

1:25:33 > 1:25:35for a living, because of someone else's moral opinion.

1:25:35 > 1:25:38The fact is that you wake up in the morning, you go

1:25:38 > 1:25:41to work nine to five, go home and see your family.

1:25:41 > 1:25:43That's exactly what I do every day.

1:25:43 > 1:25:49This is just a business for me.

1:25:49 > 1:25:51In my view, prostitution is a phenomenon in which we're not

1:25:51 > 1:25:56just dealing with sex, we're dealing with power.

1:25:56 > 1:25:59And any society that chooses to turn a blind eye to the vast

1:25:59 > 1:26:01majority of prostitution, which is highly coercive,

1:26:01 > 1:26:03highly exploitative, is one in which I think we're not

1:26:03 > 1:26:09going to tackle many of the challenges we face.

1:26:09 > 1:26:13Advertising sexual services online is not illegal in the UK,

1:26:13 > 1:26:15and by far the biggest marketplace is the website Adult Work.

1:26:15 > 1:26:19It is a portal for webcamming and other paid sexual services.

1:26:19 > 1:26:22The report authors say the policing response to the growth

1:26:22 > 1:26:24of the online sex market remains inconsistent and developed.

1:26:24 > 1:26:32The focus, they say, is on trafficking and street work.

1:26:33 > 1:26:36The proliferation of the internet has been a game changer for us.

1:26:36 > 1:26:40There is so much variation in what's happening with sex work.

1:26:40 > 1:26:43I would say that the level of knowledge we've got

1:26:43 > 1:26:47at the moment is incomplete and we are commissioning further

1:26:47 > 1:26:49research to properly understand the extent and prevalence of sex

1:26:49 > 1:26:54working in the UK at this moment.

1:26:54 > 1:26:58Let's talk now to Nikki Adams from the English

1:26:58 > 1:27:00Collective of Prostitutes who work with sex workers.

1:27:00 > 1:27:02Laura Lee is a sex worker who has been

1:27:02 > 1:27:06in the business since the 1990s.

1:27:06 > 1:27:11Thank you both for joining us. I want to start with you first of all,

1:27:11 > 1:27:15Nikki, what's your response to this biggest ever survey of sex workers

1:27:15 > 1:27:19online specifically?Well, it confirms a lot of the issues that we

1:27:19 > 1:27:22see in our day-to-day work. That the first concern for all sex workers is

1:27:22 > 1:27:27safety. We have to go through, you know, we do a lot of work to keep

1:27:27 > 1:27:31ourselves safe, but we are not helped by either the laws which

1:27:31 > 1:27:35prevent us working together in premises and also force us to work

1:27:35 > 1:27:40in isolation on the street, but also, the problem with the police

1:27:40 > 1:27:44not responding to reports of violence appropriately so that when

1:27:44 > 1:27:48people do come forward to report violence more often than not they

1:27:48 > 1:27:52may face prosecution themselves for prostitution offences while they see

1:27:52 > 1:27:55their attackers go free and we have seen that on a day-to-day basis and

1:27:55 > 1:28:00we still hear from the police things like we're not going to take the

1:28:00 > 1:28:04report because we don't act on crimes when you've brought it upon

1:28:04 > 1:28:07yourself as if sex workers ourselves are responsible for the violence

1:28:07 > 1:28:11that's inflicted on us. So the report did deal with a lot of those

1:28:11 > 1:28:15kind of issues and it also tackles the increase in prostitution which

1:28:15 > 1:28:19we've actually seen both online and on the street. I think there has

1:28:19 > 1:28:22been an increase in the street as well and I think it's helpful in

1:28:22 > 1:28:25pointing us to what needs to be done because there are, the people that

1:28:25 > 1:28:29are working online that are coming to us are saying that things like

1:28:29 > 1:28:33the housing crisis, the rising rents, and the low wages in other

1:28:33 > 1:28:36sectors are a key reason why people are going into sex work.That's

1:28:36 > 1:28:42interesting. There has a rise in online sex work. I was going to ask

1:28:42 > 1:28:46you whether the changing nature of it to being online makes it safer?

1:28:46 > 1:28:50It can make it safer. The first and most important thing is we can

1:28:50 > 1:28:56screen clients easily and that's a big improvement. And but it has, as

1:28:56 > 1:29:00the research said, led to other risks such as stalking and online

1:29:00 > 1:29:03harassment and breaches of pref assy so people are getting exposed to

1:29:03 > 1:29:07their family and friends, but I think that the most important thing

1:29:07 > 1:29:12from this research for us is the issues of safety, the issues of

1:29:12 > 1:29:18policing, the impact of the laws, it actually points to the dangers of

1:29:18 > 1:29:25criminalising clients because we take issue with what Gavin Shooker

1:29:25 > 1:29:30said. The majority of sex workers are mothers, working to support

1:29:30 > 1:29:34themselves and their families and that has to be the priority.Thanks.

1:29:34 > 1:29:39Laura, you've worked in the industry for 24 years. How have things

1:29:39 > 1:29:43changed in that time?Well, the biggest change has been the move on

1:29:43 > 1:29:49to the internet which as Nikki has said has been advantageous in terms

1:29:49 > 1:29:52of screening clients of clients, but in terms of screening our clients,

1:29:52 > 1:29:58one of the biggest changes for me has been the law change in the north

1:29:58 > 1:30:03and the south of Ireland which criminalised our clients and made

1:30:03 > 1:30:07our working lives difficult. Clients are avoiding the screening processes

1:30:07 > 1:30:10completely and whilst some of our trust worthy clients dropped off,

1:30:10 > 1:30:14what we're left with are clients who have a devil may care attitude and

1:30:14 > 1:30:19don't care if the police catch up with them or not. The internet can

1:30:19 > 1:30:23only protect us so far. The law needs to step up to the mark and so

1:30:23 > 1:30:28do the policing standards.

1:30:28 > 1:30:33And have you ever had a situation where you decided not to go to the

1:30:33 > 1:30:40police over something?I have. I was a victim of violence in Glasgow from

1:30:40 > 1:30:46a very unstable man, and our relationship with sex workers with

1:30:46 > 1:30:49the police became fraught, to say the least, so I saw no benefit in

1:30:49 > 1:30:54reporting him at that point.Why? Because I didn't think I would be

1:30:54 > 1:30:59taken seriously or how much resources they would put into trying

1:30:59 > 1:31:11to apprehend him. I did make other sex workers aware of who he was.

1:31:11 > 1:31:12sex workers aware of who he was.Are you are calling for a full

1:31:12 > 1:31:19decriminalisation?Yes. We are supporting the removal of all

1:31:19 > 1:31:25punitive sanctions involved in sex work. It allows us to work in

1:31:25 > 1:31:30safety.

1:31:33 > 1:31:35safety.Thank you very much for speaking to us.

1:31:35 > 1:31:36Still to come:

1:31:36 > 1:31:37Your children "deserve better healthcare".

1:31:37 > 1:31:40That's the findings of a new report that shows England is falling

1:31:40 > 1:31:47behind Scotland and Wales in improving child health.

1:31:53 > 1:31:57They sold more than 25 million records worldwide and they are about

1:31:57 > 1:32:01to release their 18th album. We'll speak to 80s musical legends

1:32:01 > 1:32:02Erasure.

1:32:02 > 1:32:09Time for the latest news, here's Annita.

1:32:09 > 1:32:11The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is expected to press for more money

1:32:11 > 1:32:14for the NHS at a cabinet meeting that's currently underway

1:32:14 > 1:32:15in Downing Street.

1:32:15 > 1:32:18He'll make his case for call for an extra one hundred million

1:32:18 > 1:32:20pounds a week for the NHS when the Health Secretary,

1:32:20 > 1:32:26Jeremy Hunt, gives an update on how the service is coping this winter.

1:32:26 > 1:32:28England is lagging behind Scotland and Wales when it comes

1:32:28 > 1:32:31to introducing measures to improve child health, according to

1:32:31 > 1:32:34a new report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.

1:32:34 > 1:32:37It also warns that four out of five young people who are obese

1:32:37 > 1:32:41will battle ill health for the rest of their lives.

1:32:41 > 1:32:44Westminster insists it has "world-leading plans" in place

1:32:44 > 1:32:47and in the past year both teen pregnancy and child mortality have

1:32:47 > 1:32:51fallen to all-time lows.

1:32:51 > 1:32:54An area of Central London remains cordoned off this morning

1:32:54 > 1:32:56after a huge gas leak led to hundreds of people

1:32:56 > 1:32:59being evacuated from a nightclub and a hotel in the early hours.

1:32:59 > 1:33:01One of the capital's busiest stations, Charing Cross,

1:33:01 > 1:33:09has been shut down.

1:33:12 > 1:33:16Emergency services say that the cause was a ruptured gas main.

1:33:16 > 1:33:18The former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has said the refusal

1:33:18 > 1:33:20of the party's current chief, Henry Bolton, to resign

1:33:20 > 1:33:21could be a "lifeline".

1:33:21 > 1:33:2414 of the party's main spokesmen and women have quit

1:33:24 > 1:33:26following Mr Bolton's decision not to stand down, in the row

1:33:26 > 1:33:29over his former girlfriend making racist remarks about Meghan Markle.

1:33:29 > 1:33:32Writing for the Daily Telegraph website, Mr Farage said if Mr Bolton

1:33:32 > 1:33:34could use the situation to force UKIP to reform.

1:33:34 > 1:33:36Police in Yorkshire looking for a missing schoolgirl have

1:33:36 > 1:33:39found a body in a river.

1:33:42 > 1:33:45The legendary South African jazz trumpeter Hugh Masekela has died

1:33:45 > 1:33:48in hospital in Johannesburg.

1:33:48 > 1:33:50He was 78 and had been receiving treatment

1:33:50 > 1:33:51for prostate cancer.

1:33:51 > 1:33:54A leading anti-apartheid campaigner, he was known as the "father

1:33:54 > 1:33:55of South African jazz".

1:33:55 > 1:34:03That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:34:03 > 1:34:08Here's some sport now with Holly.

1:34:08 > 1:34:14We will have more reaction to Kyle

1:34:14 > 1:34:18Edmund's victory in the quarterfinals of the Australian open

1:34:18 > 1:34:23at Melbourne. He will face of Rafael Nadal Marin Cilic next. Those two

1:34:23 > 1:34:30are on court. After McDowell took the opening set 6-3, Marin Cilic

1:34:30 > 1:34:33took the second. It is currently 3-3 in the third.

1:34:33 > 1:34:39This week, Liverpool have lost to bottom of the league Swansea City.

1:34:39 > 1:34:47That means that Jurgen Klopp's side miss out on a top three space.

1:34:47 > 1:34:50Ben Stokes won't be joining up with his England team-mates at the start

1:34:50 > 1:34:55of next month as planned. His court appearance for affray falls on the

1:34:55 > 1:35:02same day as his return. We will find out who Kyle Edmund will face in the

1:35:02 > 1:35:06semifinal in Melbourne. Stay tuned on the news channel throughout the

1:35:06 > 1:35:08day.

1:35:08 > 1:35:10Netflix now has 117 million subscribers, with 8.3 million

1:35:10 > 1:35:12customers signing up to the streaming service between

1:35:12 > 1:35:13October and December last year.

1:35:13 > 1:35:16The company says its investment in original programming is paying off.

1:35:16 > 1:35:21Our media editor, Amol Rajan, is here with me.

1:35:21 > 1:35:27Is this surprising? It just keeps on going.It is bonkers. Networks is

1:35:27 > 1:35:31always this reliable thing, always coming up with new numbers that are

1:35:31 > 1:35:35bonkers. These ones are particularly crazy. 117 million subscribers

1:35:35 > 1:35:45around the world, so many new subscribers last year, and it is now

1:35:45 > 1:35:50valued at over $100 billion. The rate of growth is crazy, but

1:35:50 > 1:35:57weirdly, most of networks is full of other people's stuff. 40-50% of what

1:35:57 > 1:36:01you can get on lie is not stuff that networks is producing the stuff they

1:36:01 > 1:36:05get from other people, so it is a weird way to run a business. What it

1:36:05 > 1:36:12is doing incredibly fast is reinventing the idea of TV. The idea

1:36:12 > 1:36:17of people telling you when you can watch stuff is becoming redundant.

1:36:17 > 1:36:21Because they have so much money, they are putting loads into high-end

1:36:21 > 1:36:26productions. The people who are winning are the viewers, who are

1:36:26 > 1:36:32getting great stuff.They have a price rise last year, which doesn't

1:36:32 > 1:36:36seem to have affected subscription rates.If you have a price rise and

1:36:36 > 1:36:40people keep signing up, it must be because you have a fantastic

1:36:40 > 1:36:46product. I used to watch Netflix around five years ago and I found a

1:36:46 > 1:36:50selection incredibly boring.Not the case any more.They have lots of new

1:36:50 > 1:36:55fantastic stuff, and it is changing its business from being a kind of

1:36:55 > 1:36:59library to having its own original productions. The Crown, which they

1:36:59 > 1:37:04got into a war with the BBC for, people seem to be signing up, even

1:37:04 > 1:37:14at the higher price.And they are able to do things like scrapping

1:37:14 > 1:37:20House Of Cards, which you can only do with a huge budget. And what

1:37:20 > 1:37:25about Fox's takeover of Sky?Six years ago, Rupert Murdoch try to

1:37:25 > 1:37:30take full control of Sky. It has been stuck with the regulators, the

1:37:30 > 1:37:35recent attempt. The Competition and Markets Authority said they thought

1:37:35 > 1:37:39Rupert Murdoch's family was OK in terms of broadcasting standards, but

1:37:39 > 1:37:43they weren't up to it when it came to media plurality. It said they had

1:37:43 > 1:37:48concerns that if Rupert Murdoch did take full control of Sky, there

1:37:48 > 1:37:52would be an issue of media plurality. There is another takeover

1:37:52 > 1:37:59bid going on, which is Disney trying to take control of Fox. We are in

1:37:59 > 1:38:03this weird situation where critics of Rupert Murdoch can say he does

1:38:03 > 1:38:06have too much control, or would have too much control, but at the same

1:38:06 > 1:38:13time, he might be selling up to Disney.A comprehensive update.

1:38:13 > 1:38:18Thanks very much indeed. Some breaking news to bring you, the US

1:38:18 > 1:38:23geological survey says an earthquake of magnitude 8.2 has struck 250

1:38:23 > 1:38:28kilometres off Alaska at a depth of ten kilometres. The quake prompted a

1:38:28 > 1:38:32tsunami warning for parts of Alaska and Canada, and a tsunami watch for

1:38:32 > 1:38:36the entire US West Coast.

1:38:36 > 1:38:38Doctors are warning that a disjointed approach to children's

1:38:38 > 1:38:41health is damaging the long-term health of the nation with England

1:38:41 > 1:38:42falling behind Scotland and Wales.

1:38:42 > 1:38:45A report from the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health

1:38:45 > 1:38:47has a simple message - invest in the health of children

1:38:47 > 1:38:50and make a huge difference to their health in later life.

1:38:50 > 1:38:52Let's speak now to Professor Neena Modi who is President

1:38:52 > 1:38:56of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.

1:38:56 > 1:38:58And to Izzie Kennedy, who was overweight throughout her

1:38:58 > 1:39:03childhood, but has lost nine and a half stone in the past few

1:39:03 > 1:39:04years.

1:39:04 > 1:39:06And from Aberdeen Dr Steve Turner, the Royal College

1:39:06 > 1:39:14of Paediatrics and Child Health Officer for Scotland.

1:39:14 > 1:39:20Thank you for joining us this morning. I want to get your response

1:39:20 > 1:39:24to what we're hearing today in this new report.It is a report from my

1:39:24 > 1:39:30college, and it is a scorecard which summarises what changes they have

1:39:30 > 1:39:35been in the last year, because it is exactly a year pretty much to the

1:39:35 > 1:39:40day since we issued a large report on children's health. As you said in

1:39:40 > 1:39:46your introduction, the picture is mixed. Scotland and Wales certainly

1:39:46 > 1:39:49seem to have acknowledged the importance of child health and are

1:39:49 > 1:39:54making some firm policy commitments. England has made progress in a few

1:39:54 > 1:40:01areas, but not really as much as Scotland and Wales. Of

1:40:01 > 1:40:04Scotland and Wales. Of course, we have not emphasised the extent to

1:40:04 > 1:40:08which the UK is falling behind other nations in Europe.How worrying is

1:40:08 > 1:40:11that? If you look at those scorecards, the picture the England

1:40:11 > 1:40:16seems pretty bad. There is improvement in some areas, but there

1:40:16 > 1:40:26is no change if you look at things like having a cross departmental

1:40:26 > 1:40:29child health strategy, no reduction in the number of child deaths, no

1:40:29 > 1:40:39change in research and development capacity, no moves to reduce health

1:40:39 > 1:40:42inequalities, and in that one, no change or worse.The facts are

1:40:42 > 1:40:47stark, you're right. Child poverty is at the highest level it has been

1:40:47 > 1:40:52since 2010. We have a third of our children at the age of ten who are

1:40:52 > 1:40:55overweight or obese. We have a quarter of children with tooth

1:40:55 > 1:41:00decay. These are preventable conditions, and we have self harm,

1:41:00 > 1:41:04for example, in young girls, which is rising steadily and has done for

1:41:04 > 1:41:11the last three years. If you examine hard measures like child mortality,

1:41:11 > 1:41:18not faring as faring as well as our European counterparts. This is a

1:41:18 > 1:41:21terrible thing for children, but also for adults because they will

1:41:21 > 1:41:29grow up into adults, and if they are blighted by poor health in

1:41:29 > 1:41:32childhood, that legacy will remain with them.What are you hearing

1:41:32 > 1:41:40today?My journey began at the age of 15, when I weighed 21 stone. That

1:41:40 > 1:41:43was something that really progressed over several years at secondary

1:41:43 > 1:41:47school. I gained about ten stone during my time at secondary school,

1:41:47 > 1:41:53and that was as a result of what I describe as binge eating, or comfort

1:41:53 > 1:41:58eating. During a difficult time with my family, and as well as bullying

1:41:58 > 1:42:02at school and things like that, I turned to food for comfort, as I

1:42:02 > 1:42:08think a lot of children do. And it was not until I joined Slimming

1:42:08 > 1:42:16World in 2015 that my life began to turn around. I have lost over 9.5

1:42:16 > 1:42:23stone.That is fantastic, in former years. You are 18 now?Yes, and it

1:42:23 > 1:42:26took two years to lose that way could I have been maintaining it for

1:42:26 > 1:42:31a year and a half. My life has really transformed and I'm a much

1:42:31 > 1:42:34happier person. What I'm really calling for is an investment in

1:42:34 > 1:42:37child mental health, because I think that psychological relationship with

1:42:37 > 1:42:42food a lot of people suffer with is something we need to address,

1:42:42 > 1:42:46especially talking about it more, because there is such a stigma about

1:42:46 > 1:42:50mental health still, and especially in children.You went to a

1:42:50 > 1:42:54commercial organisation to help you lose weight - what support did you

1:42:54 > 1:42:59get as you were putting on a large amount of weight?I was diagnosed

1:42:59 > 1:43:04with a form of liver disease in 2014, so I was under Kings College

1:43:04 > 1:43:09Hospital in London for a number of different medical reasons. I did

1:43:09 > 1:43:14have support from the NHS as well as seeking help from dieticians and GPs

1:43:14 > 1:43:19at the time, but nothing seemed to work. Whatever nutritional advice I

1:43:19 > 1:43:26was given... I have an A-level in nutrition and I have the facts but I

1:43:26 > 1:43:31couldn't find something that was working for me. It was only by

1:43:31 > 1:43:36joining Slimming World is that I was able to find the help and support I

1:43:36 > 1:43:40needed.Did you have any negative experiences with doctors whom you so

1:43:40 > 1:43:44that may have affected you?The large majority of my experience with

1:43:44 > 1:43:49the NHS has been brilliant I am thankful to have it, but there was

1:43:49 > 1:43:53one particular experience I remember where I went to see a GP at around

1:43:53 > 1:43:58the age of 13, weighing 20 stone at the time, and he turned around and

1:43:58 > 1:44:04said, you are huge, and your skin is awful, and you have acne, and I came

1:44:04 > 1:44:08away feeling really demoralised and I turned to the only thing I knew at

1:44:08 > 1:44:13the time, which was food, for comfort.I want to bring in Doctor

1:44:13 > 1:44:20Steve Turner as well. The report has praised the governments in Wales and

1:44:20 > 1:44:23Scotland for their approach to children's health - can you tell us

1:44:23 > 1:44:28about that? Theresa thanks for having me on. I am an Englishman

1:44:28 > 1:44:32living in Scotland, so I have learned over 15 years to be very

1:44:32 > 1:44:38careful about comparing England and Scotland. I can tell you about the

1:44:38 > 1:44:45changes.The Scottish Government have recognised that child health is

1:44:45 > 1:44:51really important, and not just the children now. Very quickly, children

1:44:51 > 1:44:54grow into adults, so the Scottish Government have embraced the

1:44:54 > 1:45:01philosophy that the child is the father of the man and have invested

1:45:01 > 1:45:04in child health now, reaping benefits in terms of health and

1:45:04 > 1:45:08well-being for generations to come. What do you think England can learn

1:45:08 > 1:45:13from what is happening in Scotland? I think everybody in a position of

1:45:13 > 1:45:17authority needs to recognise that child health is important and should

1:45:17 > 1:45:24be considered in just about every statute that people can think of.

1:45:24 > 1:45:26Children's services do need investment, and there was a lot of

1:45:26 > 1:45:30call for that, but there is an assumption that children are

1:45:30 > 1:45:33inherently and naturally healthy, which is not the case. We know that,

1:45:33 > 1:45:38and we know that we need to invest in maternity services to improve the

1:45:38 > 1:45:43health of children when they are born, we need to improve in --

1:45:43 > 1:45:46invest in education, we need to invest in transport so that there is

1:45:46 > 1:45:52a healthy environment, built mental health strategies. Child health

1:45:52 > 1:45:54should be imported in every strategy, and the Scottish

1:45:54 > 1:45:57Government have realised this, and I'm sure the UK and other

1:45:57 > 1:46:03governments around the world will embrace this concept shortly.

1:46:03 > 1:46:08Do you think children's health is being neglected because there is

1:46:08 > 1:46:14some way to go?I think neglect is probably too strong a word. What has

1:46:14 > 1:46:18happened is that lifestyles have changed quickly. We have heard from

1:46:18 > 1:46:21Izzy that obesity is a problem and a generation ago, children who were

1:46:21 > 1:46:25obese were more likely to come from affluent communities and children

1:46:25 > 1:46:30who were thin were more likely to come from poor communities. In 30

1:46:30 > 1:46:33years that's turned on its head. Mental health and well-being, if you

1:46:33 > 1:46:36speak to young people about their anxieties and problems with body

1:46:36 > 1:46:39image, all of these things are much more common now than they were a

1:46:39 > 1:46:45generation ago and I'm sure the word neglect isn't correct. I think

1:46:45 > 1:46:49collectively we have been slow to realise this is the problem and we

1:46:49 > 1:46:53have been slow to react and fast. What are the main dangers when we

1:46:53 > 1:46:59have such high numbers of children who are obese?Well, the facts again

1:46:59 > 1:47:03are very stark here and I think it is just fantastic to be hearing

1:47:03 > 1:47:07Izzy's story because she is one of the lucky few who has actually

1:47:07 > 1:47:11managed to deal with the problem, but the majority of children who are

1:47:11 > 1:47:19obese will go on to remain obese in adult life and the latest research

1:47:19 > 1:47:23figures show that if you are obese as a child, you are more likely to

1:47:23 > 1:47:26remain as obese as an adult and you are going to lose anything between

1:47:26 > 1:47:32ten and 20 years of healthy life and your life expectancy will be shorter

1:47:32 > 1:47:41too because you will be vulnerable to the chronic diseases like

1:47:41 > 1:47:45diabetes and heart December that go with being obese. Well done to Izzy,

1:47:45 > 1:47:51she is a sterling example, if she can do it, others can do it. This is

1:47:51 > 1:47:55an issue that one needs to intervene on multiple different sorts of

1:47:55 > 1:47:59levels.Thank you for coming in and for talking to us about the report.

1:47:59 > 1:48:03Izzy well done again and thank you for coming in and sharing your

1:48:03 > 1:48:07story.

1:48:07 > 1:48:10From starring in Baywatch to appearing on a record 14 Playboy

1:48:10 > 1:48:11covers, Pamela Anderson was the inescapable

1:48:11 > 1:48:12face of the 1990s.

1:48:12 > 1:48:15But from being a pin up, she's now known for her activism, campaigning

1:48:15 > 1:48:17and political engagement.

1:48:17 > 1:48:19She spoke to us exclusively a little earlier, and began by talking

1:48:19 > 1:48:22about her role as a feminist.

1:48:22 > 1:48:29It's complicated. It is great. Feminism has has given us so much

1:48:29 > 1:48:35freedom and so many great things, but I think in some cases even

1:48:35 > 1:48:38progressive countries like Sweden, a condom breaks and it is a form of

1:48:38 > 1:48:42sexual assault. I mean that's just going too far.You are talking about

1:48:42 > 1:48:49Julian Assange who we will come back to. How do you think being a Playboy

1:48:49 > 1:48:55playmate fits in with you being a feminist?Well, no one forced me to

1:48:55 > 1:49:01be a playmate. I think Hefner was an incredible pioneer and really

1:49:01 > 1:49:04empowered women and empowered a lot of people in vulnerable positions

1:49:04 > 1:49:09and was a civil rights activist and art lover and freedom fighter and

1:49:09 > 1:49:11just created this really fun lifestyle that I wish everybody

1:49:11 > 1:49:16could be a part of. It wasn't as sleazy or terrible as people might

1:49:16 > 1:49:22think. It was very respectful and wonderful and girls got it make

1:49:22 > 1:49:27careers out of this.What about people who say it is equivalent to

1:49:27 > 1:49:31colluding with men who objectify and exploit women?Well, I think it goes

1:49:31 > 1:49:37both ways. I think women, we have our ways and men maybe are a little

1:49:37 > 1:49:42rough around the edges sometimes and as a parent of two young boys, it is

1:49:42 > 1:49:46really important to teach our kids to be respectful and you know, but

1:49:46 > 1:49:51there is that, you know, uncomfortable, you know as women we

1:49:51 > 1:49:57don't want to know everything that men maybe talk about. I think it's,

1:49:57 > 1:50:01I don't think it's, I think we need to just relax a little bit and be

1:50:01 > 1:50:07who we are and it's fun. I think it is a powerful position to be a woman

1:50:07 > 1:50:17and we do have super powers.Do you think Me Too And Time's Up movements

1:50:17 > 1:50:22are helping to empower women?It is great to have the discussion and to

1:50:22 > 1:50:27make women feel more comfortable, and being able to tell their

1:50:27 > 1:50:30stories, but hashtags are dangerous. We sometimes believe we are doing

1:50:30 > 1:50:33something and we need to have these discussions and prosecute these

1:50:33 > 1:50:38people in a court of law and not feel like if we have just said

1:50:38 > 1:50:44something that, that we've done something.

1:50:45 > 1:50:48With 17 studio albums - soon to be 18 - an army of loyal

1:50:48 > 1:50:49followers, iconic costumes and show-stopping performances,

1:50:49 > 1:50:53Erasure are the 80s musical legends who have stood the test of time.

1:50:53 > 1:50:55Now, Andy Bell and Vince Clarke are back with a classical style

1:50:55 > 1:50:57album and they're embarking on a tour.

1:50:57 > 1:51:00We'll be talking to them in a moment, but first let's

1:51:00 > 1:51:03remind ourselves of some of their greatest hits.

1:51:03 > 1:51:06# Oh, baby, please

1:51:06 > 1:51:09# Give a little respect

1:51:09 > 1:51:16# To me

1:51:16 > 1:51:18# Ooh, sometimes

1:51:18 > 1:51:23# The truth is harder than the pain inside

1:51:23 > 1:51:25# Always, I want to be with you

1:51:25 > 1:51:27# And make believe with you

1:51:27 > 1:51:29# And live in harmony, harmony, oh, love

1:51:29 > 1:51:33# Ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba

1:51:33 > 1:51:35# Honey, I'm still free

1:51:35 > 1:51:39# Take a chance on me

1:51:39 > 1:51:41# Stop, stand there where you are

1:51:41 > 1:51:45# Before you go too far

1:51:45 > 1:51:47# Before you make a fool out of love

1:51:47 > 1:51:49# Stop, don't jump before you look

1:51:49 > 1:51:50# Get hung up on the hook

1:51:50 > 1:51:57# Before you make a fool out of love

1:51:57 > 1:52:00# I love you to the sky, sky, sky, sky

1:52:00 > 1:52:02# I'll not tell you lies, lies, lies, lies

1:52:02 > 1:52:09# Baby, say it's me you're holding #.

1:52:09 > 1:52:17I'm pleased to say Andy Bell and Vince Clarke are with us now.

1:52:22 > 1:52:27Now, do you two ever slow down. 18 albums and a tour?We've slowed down

1:52:27 > 1:52:34once, I think.When was that?The mid-90s.18 albums. That's

1:52:34 > 1:52:39fantastic. Why do you keep going?We still get a huge amount of

1:52:39 > 1:52:43satisfaction of making something that's artistic and making something

1:52:43 > 1:52:49from nothing and also we have the incredible following of fans. So

1:52:49 > 1:52:53it's good to keep them happy.It is obvious that I love what you do. Do

1:52:53 > 1:53:00you think you'll do this forever?I would like like to drop down dead on

1:53:00 > 1:53:03stage! LAUGHTER

1:53:03 > 1:53:10I don't mean soon. Right at the end. Well, let's take a listen at a

1:53:10 > 1:53:15little bit of your new album which is coming back before we talk about.

1:53:15 > 1:53:18# And it's a bitter parting with such sweet sorrow

1:53:18 > 1:53:20# That I guess we'll be just fine

1:53:20 > 1:53:23# And I wish I saw a fond farewell

1:53:23 > 1:53:31# But just don't look back in time #.

1:53:35 > 1:53:41It is a classical take on your last album. Why did you decide to do

1:53:41 > 1:53:45something a bit different this time? I think the nature of the last album

1:53:45 > 1:53:52just lends itself to the orchestraal versions because when we, Vince

1:53:52 > 1:53:57first started working on the music for the album, I thought it sounded

1:53:57 > 1:54:01like a film soundtrack and...Is that a good or bad thing?No, it is

1:54:01 > 1:54:08good. I was thinking how am I going to put lyrics to this or sing to

1:54:08 > 1:54:17this because it sounded like it was done already and it was Vince's idea

1:54:17 > 1:54:23to do the versions.Does your music reflect what's going on in the world

1:54:23 > 1:54:28socially and politically?I think it is bound to. There is such political

1:54:28 > 1:54:39upheaval. It is a good time for lyricists.You have had two hips

1:54:39 > 1:54:44replaced, haven't you?Yes.How does that affect you on stage?It doesn't

1:54:44 > 1:54:50affect me at all. I had them done in 2005 one after the other and a few

1:54:50 > 1:54:54people came up to me like ballet dancers and people that have to have

1:54:54 > 1:54:58the same thing done and I say, "Just do it while you're young because it

1:54:58 > 1:55:05is great." I had no idea up to the run of when they were breaking down,

1:55:05 > 1:55:09it was this thing when the blood supply doesn't get to the top of the

1:55:09 > 1:55:14bone and so they start crumbling. So it is a really gradual thing and you

1:55:14 > 1:55:19don't notice and your mind just gets used to the pain. I noticed I was

1:55:19 > 1:55:24holding on to tables to walk around and stuff and my costume for that

1:55:24 > 1:55:28tour was like really thrust up with corsets and stuff, I didn't realise

1:55:28 > 1:55:34it was holding me up. When I had the replacement done, it was just like

1:55:34 > 1:55:39going back to scratch, like back to normal and being able to walk was

1:55:39 > 1:55:47amazing.In the late 90s you went public with your HIV diagnosis and

1:55:47 > 1:55:51helped change people's perceptions what it means to live with HIV. How

1:55:51 > 1:55:56are you doing now?In the beginning it was really scary because it was

1:55:56 > 1:56:02kind of, you know, in the early stages, in late 80s, it was kind of,

1:56:02 > 1:56:06you know, not many people survived and we had to, you know, really

1:56:06 > 1:56:11fight for our rights and fight to kind of get research into HIV and

1:56:11 > 1:56:18stuff and not make it like a kind of a pariah illness and make the

1:56:18 > 1:56:22perception of it and it can happen to anybody and you know I feel

1:56:22 > 1:56:27completely blessed because me and my then partner, we lost so many

1:56:27 > 1:56:32friends and people and even though it took me a while to get used to it

1:56:32 > 1:56:36in my own mind I just thought Vince knows I have been like a heart on

1:56:36 > 1:56:39the sleeve kind of person and I just wanted to put my cards on the table

1:56:39 > 1:56:43and say, "Hey, this is what's going on."Were you surprised how people

1:56:43 > 1:56:48reacted at the time?I was. Our profile wasn't really that high, was

1:56:48 > 1:56:56it, at that time. But I was quite surprised. I was expecting more of a

1:56:56 > 1:57:01roller-coaster and it didn't really happen. I was quite taken aback with

1:57:01 > 1:57:06the amount of love that came from it, you know.And how, you have been

1:57:06 > 1:57:10through so much together, how do you feel about ageing in this industry?

1:57:10 > 1:57:13Well, I don't know. LAUGHTER

1:57:13 > 1:57:17It doesn't seem to have affected your career. You have this huge

1:57:17 > 1:57:23fanbase. You keep going. You are still making the hits.It is

1:57:23 > 1:57:29probably easier on men, I don't know. But when you are in the

1:57:29 > 1:57:32entertainment industry or the media, everyone wants to look fresh. They

1:57:32 > 1:57:37want you to look fresh on the camera and it's kind of like, I mean botox

1:57:37 > 1:57:39is fine and stuff. LAUGHTER

1:57:39 > 1:57:43Anything, just to make you feel good I think is...Just be happy in

1:57:43 > 1:57:49yourself. Everybody is different. If it works from you. What can we

1:57:49 > 1:57:55expect from this tour?It is quite an extensive tour. Most of the shows

1:57:55 > 1:58:00are sold out in the UK which is amazing. It would be some

1:58:00 > 1:58:07theatricals, a bit of dancing from him.Obviously!It is an

1:58:07 > 1:58:11hour-and-a-half, the show, we set in the Hamburg red light district.

1:58:11 > 1:58:15Well, we can't wait to see if. Thank you very much for joining us today.

1:58:15 > 1:58:18Good luck with the new album.

1:58:18 > 1:58:19BBC Newsroom live is coming up next.

1:58:19 > 1:58:21Thank you for your company today.

1:58:21 > 1:58:27Have a good day.