25/01/2018

0:00:07 > 0:00:08Hello.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10It's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

0:00:10 > 0:00:14welcome to the programme.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17The Education Minister Nadhim Zahawi is reprimanded by Downing Street

0:00:17 > 0:00:19for going to the scandal hit presidents club charity dinner

0:00:19 > 0:00:26as questions continue to be raised about the event.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29There's a much bigger thing here, which is that we should get away

0:00:29 > 0:00:35from the sorts of events where men and women are treated very

0:00:35 > 0:00:42differently.That is the Culture Secretary, who is in Theresa

0:00:42 > 0:00:49Switzerland along with Theresa May. She will meet Donald Trump after a

0:00:49 > 0:00:56bumpy few months for the special relationship. We will be live in

0:00:56 > 0:00:57Davos as President Trump arrives.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59And it's an exciting day for British tennis.

0:00:59 > 0:01:02Kyle Edmund is on court right now playing in the men's semi-finals

0:01:02 > 0:01:03at the Australian Open.

0:01:03 > 0:01:05We'll be hearing from those who know him best.

0:01:05 > 0:01:09He has improved certain elements of his game, made some small technical

0:01:09 > 0:01:14changes, but mostly about his decision-making. He has some huge

0:01:14 > 0:01:24weapons in his game.

0:01:27 > 0:01:28Hello...

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0:01:59 > 0:02:00Our top story today.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02The Education Minister Nadhim Zahawi has been reprimanded

0:02:02 > 0:02:04by number 10 for attending the men-only charity dinner.

0:02:04 > 0:02:04Is

0:02:04 > 0:02:06Mr Zahawi attended The Presidents Club's function

0:02:06 > 0:02:08at the Dorchester Hotel, where women employed as hostesses

0:02:08 > 0:02:11say they were groped.

0:02:11 > 0:02:12The minister said he felt uncomfortable

0:02:12 > 0:02:14and left the event early.

0:02:14 > 0:02:19Alexandra Mackenzie reports.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21The annual Presidents Club dinner for men-only at the

0:02:21 > 0:02:26Dorchester Hotel.

0:02:26 > 0:02:28Women were hired as table hostesses.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31There are claims they were groped, they were made to wear

0:02:31 > 0:02:32revealing outfits and specific underwear and their phones

0:02:32 > 0:02:37were confiscated.

0:02:37 > 0:02:38Maddison Marriage is the Financial Times journalist

0:02:38 > 0:02:44who went undercover to expose the dinner.

0:02:44 > 0:02:46Multiple women told me that they had been touched

0:02:46 > 0:02:47inappropriately and that ranged from you know

0:02:47 > 0:02:50holding their hands, to

0:02:50 > 0:02:58touching their stomachs, to hands near their bottom of their back.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01Things that maybe you might not find too offensive, but then touching

0:03:01 > 0:03:03their bums, touching...

0:03:03 > 0:03:04Kind of grabbing them, pulling them into

0:03:04 > 0:03:07their laps.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09One of the event organisers, David Mellor, resigned

0:03:09 > 0:03:11his position as a member of the Department for Education's

0:03:11 > 0:03:16board and summoned to explain his attendance

0:03:16 > 0:03:21was Education Minister, Nadhim Zahawi.

0:03:21 > 0:03:23He was called in to see the Chief Whip.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25On social media, Mr Zahawi said:

0:03:25 > 0:03:27I do unequivocally condemn this behaviour.

0:03:27 > 0:03:30The report is truly shocking.

0:03:30 > 0:03:36I will never attend a men-only function ever.

0:03:36 > 0:03:37He didn't stay long.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39He went home very shortly after the hostesses were announced

0:03:39 > 0:03:43by the presented and paraded around the room.

0:03:43 > 0:03:48I think that that indicates to me that he was shocked

0:03:48 > 0:03:51by the event, didn't like the culture,

0:03:51 > 0:03:55the atmosphere and left.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58The Presidents Club, which said it was appalled by the allegations

0:03:58 > 0:04:01surrounding the event last week, said it will distribute remaining

0:04:01 > 0:04:03funds to children's charities before shutting down

0:04:03 > 0:04:10in the wake of the scandal.

0:04:17 > 0:04:24more on that later in the programme. Marin Cilic has the first break,

0:04:24 > 0:04:34leading Kyle Edmund in the first set. More in sport, coming up.

0:04:34 > 0:04:39First, here is Carol with a summary of the rest of the day's news.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42Theresa May will use a speech at the World Economic Forum

0:04:42 > 0:04:44in Switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies

0:04:44 > 0:04:46like Facebook and Twitter to tackle extremist material online.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49She'll be speaking in Davos just hours before she meets US

0:04:49 > 0:04:50President Donald Trump, their first meeting since

0:04:50 > 0:04:52she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted

0:04:52 > 0:04:56by the far-right group, Britain First.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58The US President, Donald Trump, says he's 'looking forward'

0:04:58 > 0:05:00to being interviewed by Robert Mueller -

0:05:00 > 0:05:02the FBI's special counsel investigating allegations of Russian

0:05:02 > 0:05:05interference in the US elections.

0:05:05 > 0:05:09In a heated exchange, the president told reporters

0:05:09 > 0:05:12he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be

0:05:12 > 0:05:16questioned by Mr Mueller within two to three weeks.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18REPORTER: Would you do it under oath, Mr President.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20You mean like Hillary did?

0:05:20 > 0:05:22Who said that?

0:05:22 > 0:05:24I said that, would you do it under oath?

0:05:24 > 0:05:25You said it.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28Did Hillary do it under oath?

0:05:28 > 0:05:30I think you have an idea.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32Wait, you don't have an idea?

0:05:32 > 0:05:35You really don't have an idea?

0:05:35 > 0:05:36I really don't remember.

0:05:36 > 0:05:39I'll give you an idea - she didn't do it under oath.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41You won't?

0:05:41 > 0:05:45I would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48At least two people have died and several others injured

0:05:48 > 0:05:50after a train derailed near the city of Milan.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53The regional train was travelling towards Milan's Porta Garibaldi

0:05:53 > 0:05:57station and derailed around the town of Segrate.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59There are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue

0:05:59 > 0:06:04people trapped inside.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08A judge in California has barred a mother and father,

0:06:08 > 0:06:10accused of the imprisonment and torture of their 13 children,

0:06:10 > 0:06:12from having any contact with them.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16David and Louise Turpin appeared in court to deny the charges.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20The siblings will now be separated, with the adult children living

0:06:20 > 0:06:21in one location and the six youngsters divided

0:06:21 > 0:06:26between two foster homes.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29Plans to set up tens of thousands of free water refill

0:06:29 > 0:06:30points across England are being announced today.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33Water UK, which represents water companies and suppliers,

0:06:33 > 0:06:37says it wants to expand a refill scheme first launched in 2015.

0:06:37 > 0:06:40It hopes this will help reduce pollution caused by plastic

0:06:40 > 0:06:46bottles being thrown away.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48Scientists say smoking just one cigarette a day is much more

0:06:48 > 0:06:52dangerous than previously thought.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54The team at University College London said people should give up

0:06:54 > 0:06:56rather than cut down because of the risk

0:06:56 > 0:06:59of heart attack and stroke.

0:06:59 > 0:07:04Our health and science correspondent James Gallagher reports.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07Smoking is awful for health, as it greatly increases the risk

0:07:07 > 0:07:09of cancer, heart attack and stroke.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13You may expect cutting down from 20 to one a day would lead to a similar

0:07:13 > 0:07:17reduction in health problems.

0:07:17 > 0:07:20It does for lung cancer, but a study in the British Medical Journal says

0:07:20 > 0:07:23some risks remain high.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27For every 100 middle-aged people who had never smoked,

0:07:27 > 0:07:29five have a heart attack or a stroke each decade.

0:07:29 > 0:07:34A 20 a day habit increases that risk to a higher 12 heart

0:07:34 > 0:07:36attacks or strokes.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39When people cut down drastically and smoke just once a day,

0:07:39 > 0:07:47they would still have eight heart attacks from strokes.

0:07:52 > 0:07:53--heart attacks or strokes.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56The team from University College say the solution is to stop completely.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59Even smoking the odd cigarette here and there or one or two a day

0:07:59 > 0:08:02still has a major risk of two common and serious disorders.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05The implication for GPs is that when they deliver smoking cessation

0:08:05 > 0:08:07services to their patients they can raise this information to try

0:08:07 > 0:08:10and encourage smokers in a positive way to completely stop rather

0:08:10 > 0:08:13than merely cut down.

0:08:13 > 0:08:15Researchers think even low levels of tobacco smoke may be altering

0:08:15 > 0:08:18the way the heart, lungs and blood vessels function,

0:08:18 > 0:08:26leading to the increase in risk.

0:08:26 > 0:08:28Cutting back is still better than doing nothing

0:08:28 > 0:08:30but Public Health England say the safest thing to do

0:08:30 > 0:08:33is to quit for good.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35The singer for Manchester post-punk band The Fall,

0:08:35 > 0:08:38Mark E Smith, has died aged 60.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42His partner Pam Vander, who is also the band's manager,

0:08:42 > 0:08:45said Mark died at home on Wednesday morning and added that a more

0:08:45 > 0:08:49detailed statement would follow 'in the next few days'.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52The band released more than 30 albums with the frontman,

0:08:52 > 0:08:55who was known for his distinctive style of singing.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58US YouTube star Logan Paul has published a video

0:08:58 > 0:09:01about suicide awareness, after he was widely criticised

0:09:01 > 0:09:05online for a previous video post showing the body of an apparent

0:09:05 > 0:09:08suicide victim in Japan.

0:09:08 > 0:09:10In the seven-minute video, Paul meets activists

0:09:10 > 0:09:12and a suicide survivor, while pledging to donate $1 million

0:09:12 > 0:09:16to prevention groups.

0:09:16 > 0:09:20It has received a largely positive response from his young fans online,

0:09:20 > 0:09:27and Paul said he hopes it will "make a difference in the world".

0:09:27 > 0:09:29Cheetahs are known for being the fastest land mammal but now

0:09:29 > 0:09:32new research suggests when it comes to catching prey -

0:09:32 > 0:09:36speed doesn't always equal success.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38Scientists have discovered a kind of arms race between big cats

0:09:38 > 0:09:41and the animals they hunt - as one gets faster the other

0:09:41 > 0:09:42becomes more agile.

0:09:42 > 0:09:48Our science correspondent Victoria Gill explains.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51The fastest land animal on earth.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54Cheetahs are built for speed and acceleration.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57But with a sprint they can sustain for less than a minute,

0:09:57 > 0:10:05every twist and turn of the hunt is critical in a high-speed battle.

0:10:12 > 0:10:16These veterinary scientists have now studied at the finer scale.We see

0:10:16 > 0:10:22the spectacle of hunting on wildlife documentaries, but here we are

0:10:22 > 0:10:26capturing thousands of runs and seeing all the things that we

0:10:26 > 0:10:31haven't seen before, building up a full story which means you can build

0:10:31 > 0:10:42of a computer model that tells you what the effect is.They are

0:10:42 > 0:10:46recording the animals' position more than 200 times a second. That

0:10:46 > 0:10:49captured every moment of the chase, revealing just how closely predator

0:10:49 > 0:10:54and prey match in their athleticism. But it also demonstrated that the

0:10:54 > 0:10:57hunt is about much more than speed. By outmanoeuvring a predator,

0:10:57 > 0:11:03turning at the very last minute, and antelope can control the chase and

0:11:03 > 0:11:13evade capture. Only about 50% of cheater hunts resulting Akhil --

0:11:13 > 0:11:20cheetah.

0:11:21 > 0:11:26cheetah. -- result in a kilt. The cats are close to extinction, many

0:11:26 > 0:11:31of them, and this study reveals how close the line is between life and

0:11:31 > 0:11:34death in the wild.If we're going to protect them, having an in-depth

0:11:34 > 0:11:38understanding of the requirements in their natural habitat is important,

0:11:38 > 0:11:43and research into the kind of prey they eat, how much home range they

0:11:43 > 0:11:50need, it all links into their conservation.These are the extreme

0:11:50 > 0:11:54athletes of the animal kingdom, and it has meant tracking their every

0:11:54 > 0:11:59step to really unravel the drama of each chase.

0:11:59 > 0:12:07That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

0:12:08 > 0:12:15Some comments from you about the

0:12:16 > 0:12:24families Minister, who has been reprimanded for going to that

0:12:24 > 0:12:30dinnerware hostesses were groped. One viewer says: Yet another

0:12:30 > 0:12:32politician keeping their jobs after doing things that others will be

0:12:32 > 0:12:40sacked for. Another says: The gala hostesses speak after several years

0:12:40 > 0:12:44of fundraising? Scott says: The hostesses knew what to expect and

0:12:44 > 0:12:48what happens there. There are the hundreds of complaints from them?

0:12:48 > 0:12:51Paul says: Other than the journalists who went undercover, can

0:12:51 > 0:12:56we hear from other hostesses about their experiences? That is what we

0:12:56 > 0:13:02are hoping to bring you today, Paul, so do stay tuned. Catherine is here

0:13:02 > 0:13:07with the sport. The biggest match of Kyle Edmund's career, how was he

0:13:07 > 0:13:12doing?He is up against it, facing set point against Marin Cilic. He

0:13:12 > 0:13:16has just clinched that first set against Kyle Edmund in the

0:13:16 > 0:13:22semifinals of the Australian open down in Melbourne. The biggest

0:13:22 > 0:13:29challenge of Kyle Edmund's career. Marin Cilic won the 2014 US open. He

0:13:29 > 0:13:37is the world number four and this is an enormous occasion. Kyle Edmund

0:13:37 > 0:13:41dropped a set during his match with Grigor Dimitrov, so don't count him

0:13:41 > 0:13:46out yet. Win or lose, we cannot overstate Kyle Edmund's achievement

0:13:46 > 0:13:51here. If is his first grand slam semifinal and he is only the sixth

0:13:51 > 0:13:55British man to reach the semifinal of a major. Absolutely fantastic

0:13:55 > 0:14:00achievement from him, but he is one set down to Marin Cilic in that

0:14:00 > 0:14:03semifinal. We will keep you updated on that throughout the morning. He

0:14:03 > 0:14:08has to come back now, Victoria.If you want to listen to the match,

0:14:08 > 0:14:14it's on five live right now. And we know who is in the women's final?We

0:14:14 > 0:14:17do, we had a cracking semifinal between world number one Simona

0:14:17 > 0:14:24Halep and the former world number one, Angelique Kerber of Germany.

0:14:24 > 0:14:27Some absolutely extraordinary tennis from both women. You can see from

0:14:27 > 0:14:33the score graphic that the final set went in 9-7 in games, and it was

0:14:33 > 0:14:36Simona Halep, the current number one, who goes through to the final

0:14:36 > 0:14:41in Australia for the first time, and she will face Caroline Wozniacki,

0:14:41 > 0:14:45who herself was world number one a few years ago. She did not win a

0:14:45 > 0:14:49grand slam when she was on top of the rankings. Simona Halep has not

0:14:49 > 0:14:55yet won one, so they will go head-to-head for their first grand

0:14:55 > 0:14:59slam title. And adding to the mix, a bit spicy, the world number one

0:14:59 > 0:15:03ranking will also be at stake in that final this weekend.And Phil

0:15:03 > 0:15:07Neville isn't going to face punishment for those offensive

0:15:07 > 0:15:11tweets?No, I think it's fair to say that his appointment as the England

0:15:11 > 0:15:17women's head coach has not been universally popular. He came in from

0:15:17 > 0:15:20lots -- for lots of criticism from lots of people, people saying that

0:15:20 > 0:15:26he has only got the job because of who he is, his name, not necessarily

0:15:26 > 0:15:30because of his experience at any high level in coaching, or because

0:15:30 > 0:15:34he has any particular interest in the women's game. And that has not

0:15:34 > 0:15:39been helped by tweets he sent in 2011-12 which were disparaging

0:15:39 > 0:15:42towards women. The FA chief executive has said that background

0:15:42 > 0:15:47checks were carried out but they did not reveal the comment in question.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50He said those comments would not meet the threshold for issuing a

0:15:50 > 0:15:54charge. Nevertheless, he says Neville will be educated on his

0:15:54 > 0:15:58responsibilities and will be warned about his conduct in future. I

0:15:58 > 0:16:02imagine Phil Neville hopes his job as England head coach will become

0:16:02 > 0:16:06gradually easier than the first 24 hours in the role.Not necessarily

0:16:06 > 0:16:11expect you never know.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13Let's talk more about Kyle Edmund.

0:16:13 > 0:16:15Here's one of his coaches, Mark Hilton, on what's helped

0:16:15 > 0:16:17with this breakthrough at the Australian Open.

0:16:17 > 0:16:21Well, it's come about in a few ways.

0:16:21 > 0:16:22There have been some obvious improvements

0:16:22 > 0:16:24to his game but also he

0:16:24 > 0:16:28has had a lot of changes in the sense of a new coaching team,

0:16:28 > 0:16:29myself and Fredrik Rosengren along with Ian

0:16:29 > 0:16:31Prangley, his physical trainer, have come together

0:16:31 > 0:16:32and obviously made a

0:16:32 > 0:16:35plan on what needs to improve, what he's doing great,

0:16:35 > 0:16:37and fortunately over pre-season we had a great time

0:16:37 > 0:16:40together and it's showing now at the start of the year.

0:16:40 > 0:16:43But what is different?

0:16:43 > 0:16:51Is it that he is physically stronger, mentally

0:16:51 > 0:16:53stronger, because he has, perhaps cruelly, been called

0:16:53 > 0:16:54a choker in the past?

0:16:54 > 0:16:59Yeah, so, I wouldn't have labelled him

0:16:59 > 0:17:02that, but what he has done is he has improved certain elements of his

0:17:02 > 0:17:05game, his serve in particular has come on, we made some small

0:17:05 > 0:17:06technical changes there.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08But mostly about his decision when he's on the court.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12He has some huge weapons in his game and it often comes down to

0:17:12 > 0:17:15those small decisions in big moments and he's been able to execute them

0:17:15 > 0:17:18on the biggest stage and it gives him a lot of belief so that

0:17:18 > 0:17:20when he goes out on the court against these

0:17:20 > 0:17:26best players he is able to execute his best tennis.

0:17:26 > 0:17:28Does he feel the pressure, will he have felt the

0:17:28 > 0:17:29pressure going into today?

0:17:29 > 0:17:32I'm sure he has his own expectations.

0:17:32 > 0:17:36He's always been aware that his tennis

0:17:36 > 0:17:41has been very good.

0:17:41 > 0:17:44It's being able to repeat that on a daily basis,

0:17:44 > 0:17:46and over the course of the last ten days

0:17:46 > 0:17:47he has been exceptional at

0:17:47 > 0:17:50doing that over the course of five sets, in very tough conditions.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52And what it does is it really solidifies

0:17:52 > 0:17:55the work that has been done and gives him a lot of confidence

0:17:55 > 0:17:57moving into the rest of the year.

0:17:57 > 0:17:58Can he reach the final? Why not?

0:17:58 > 0:18:00When it gets to this stage in the tournament

0:18:00 > 0:18:03with only four players there he has a great chance.

0:18:03 > 0:18:11He's going to need to play well and Cilic is an

0:18:11 > 0:18:15exceptional player who has won grand slams, been in a final, he beat

0:18:15 > 0:18:17Kyle in the autumn last year and it's going

0:18:17 > 0:18:19to be a tough match but

0:18:19 > 0:18:21there is no reason why Kyle can't out there and win.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24It's really going to come down to some very small

0:18:24 > 0:18:25margins today.

0:18:25 > 0:18:26Thank you, Mark, thanks for your time.

0:18:26 > 0:18:27No problem.

0:18:27 > 0:18:32Let's Speaker Amanda Owens, world ranked tennis player and leading

0:18:32 > 0:18:36sports psychologist who currently works with players on the world

0:18:36 > 0:18:39tour. Also Chris Jones, a tennis writer and Trevor Loten, a tennis

0:18:39 > 0:18:45coach at Kyle Edmund's old big smile from Trevor despite Kyle being one

0:18:45 > 0:18:53set down already. How do you think he's doing, Trevor?He's taking a

0:18:53 > 0:18:58bit of time to get going and there is a medical time-out, not sure what

0:18:58 > 0:19:01the problem is. His comeback from behind in several matches so far so

0:19:01 > 0:19:06I'm not unduly worried at this point.Are you, Chris?I'm worried

0:19:06 > 0:19:10because if you go for a medical time-out and go into the locker room

0:19:10 > 0:19:15it usually means it's somewhere you don't want the rest of the public to

0:19:15 > 0:19:20see where you are hurting which means around the groin, top of the

0:19:20 > 0:19:23lake. He's played tennis in tough conditions in Australia. I just hope

0:19:23 > 0:19:27Isiekwe he will last, his body has been through an awful lot. He's done

0:19:27 > 0:19:31brilliantly to get this far but it's not been the best 35 minutes of this

0:19:31 > 0:19:36tournament, lost the first set 6-2 and now injured.We will update our

0:19:36 > 0:19:43audience to see what happens. You expect him to come out, Chris?Yeah,

0:19:43 > 0:19:46he will continue, the medical guys around the ATP are fantastic and it

0:19:46 > 0:19:51would take something big for Kyle not continue. He will give

0:19:51 > 0:19:55everything. If the injury allows him to keep playing it would be very

0:19:55 > 0:20:01unusual for him to drop out of a semifinal. He will give absolutely

0:20:01 > 0:20:07everything.Let me bring in Amanda. I mentioned to Mark Hilton that Kyle

0:20:07 > 0:20:10Edmund had been described as a choker in the past and he didn't

0:20:10 > 0:20:14like that label, absolutely fair enough. Some people have said

0:20:14 > 0:20:17mentally he hasn't been that resilient but that's changed. What

0:20:17 > 0:20:22work will the have done for him for that to change?Absolutely. The

0:20:22 > 0:20:28change has been remarkable. I think choker is a bit tough. He wasn't so

0:20:28 > 0:20:32good under pressure and he crumbled. There is a clear change. I think

0:20:32 > 0:20:36they've been doing pressure training with him, increased the intensity of

0:20:36 > 0:20:41training.What is pressure training? Simulating matches. He has his base

0:20:41 > 0:20:45in The Bahamas and they will have been doing heat training. There is

0:20:45 > 0:20:49clearly a difference, working on all areas of his game, but mainly the

0:20:49 > 0:20:52mental side has improved dramatically. There are different

0:20:52 > 0:20:57ways that the coaches and sports psychologists can work with him to

0:20:57 > 0:21:01improve how he deals with pressure situations. In tennis there are

0:21:01 > 0:21:06critical points and key moments and clearly he's improved on that. This

0:21:06 > 0:21:10week has been incredible, he has taken out some top seeds and it's

0:21:10 > 0:21:14just how he's dealing with the big points, and indeed the fact that he

0:21:14 > 0:21:17has come back from behind and is showing real resilience.How worried

0:21:17 > 0:21:22are you about this time-out for injury?He has had a time-out before

0:21:22 > 0:21:28with his shoulder, so I'm not unduly worried. His body has been battered

0:21:28 > 0:21:32but I think he is showing a very high level of fitness at the moment,

0:21:32 > 0:21:36and mentally he is incredibly tough. I'm not unduly worried but I think

0:21:36 > 0:21:40he will come back out. He has shown he can win the tough five set

0:21:40 > 0:21:49matches.Trevor, does he look almost like a different player to you?He

0:21:49 > 0:21:54has gained a massive amount of confidence over the course of these

0:21:54 > 0:21:57two weeks, and I think having the new coaching team on board really

0:21:57 > 0:22:02has done wonders for that. He also looks in the best physical shape he

0:22:02 > 0:22:07has ever been and hopefully the only way is up.What was he like when he

0:22:07 > 0:22:14was ten?He was talented at a lot of sports, football and cricket, and he

0:22:14 > 0:22:20holds some records at the prep school for athletics. So, a very

0:22:20 > 0:22:23talented all-round sportsman. He first came to my attention when he

0:22:23 > 0:22:27was about ten years old and I got him into the under 12 North and

0:22:27 > 0:22:32schools tournament with his partner, and they won that and he was a year

0:22:32 > 0:22:36below the rest of the field so that was a tremendous achievement. It was

0:22:36 > 0:22:40clear even at that point that if he wanted to take tennis seriously than

0:22:40 > 0:22:46he could be a very good player.Why did he choose tennis if he was good

0:22:46 > 0:22:52at that and football and cricket and athletics? Did you hear me, Trevor?

0:22:52 > 0:23:00Can you hear me, Trevor?Technical hitch, it has come back on.It

0:23:00 > 0:23:03wasn't an amazing question but why did he choose tennis over other

0:23:03 > 0:23:09sports he was clearly good at?I'm not sure, to be honest. He obviously

0:23:09 > 0:23:14got the bug, he started coaching at David Lloyd in Hull and I think that

0:23:14 > 0:23:18was the decision he made and I'm so pleased he did.Chris, how good is

0:23:18 > 0:23:25he?Well, he is our hope. I know we usually just have one hope and we

0:23:25 > 0:23:30have been very lucky with Andy Murray but Andy has taken a long

0:23:30 > 0:23:35time to look at Kyle and help him both mentally and physically and

0:23:35 > 0:23:39helped him at his Florida camps. That's been important because he has

0:23:39 > 0:23:42spotted in Kyle visibility, because he has a weapon to be a world-class

0:23:42 > 0:23:48player and that forehand is a weapon, you can't get into the top

0:23:48 > 0:23:51players if you don't have something like that and he has shown in this

0:23:51 > 0:23:55tournament what that forehand can do. Now it is about getting the

0:23:55 > 0:23:58experience. If it doesn't go great today it doesn't matter because he

0:23:58 > 0:24:03has made it to a semifinal and you can't buy that sort of experience

0:24:03 > 0:24:06and mentally he will be some stronger because of this experience.

0:24:06 > 0:24:10Last year he was 5-1 up in the final set against Jack Sock in Paris and

0:24:10 > 0:24:16crumbled. It is only a few months away. The new coaching team has made

0:24:16 > 0:24:19a great difference to him and I believe he will step into the shoes,

0:24:19 > 0:24:23not exactly the same as Andy because he's been brilliant for British

0:24:23 > 0:24:26tennis, but he's going to be there for us with this young group of

0:24:26 > 0:24:33players on the world stage.Thank you very much, Chris and Trevor, and

0:24:33 > 0:24:37Amanda. Cilic has taken the first set and is one game up in the second

0:24:37 > 0:24:42set. There is a lot of work for Kyle Edmund to do. You can listen to the

0:24:42 > 0:24:46hard work he's put a on the court right now on 5 live, and there will

0:24:46 > 0:24:52be highlights at 4:45pm on BBC Two this afternoon. This is interesting.

0:24:52 > 0:24:56Shops, cafes and businesses will offer free water refill points in

0:24:56 > 0:25:02every major city and town in England by 2021. Water UK says its scheme

0:25:02 > 0:25:06could cut disposable plastic bottle used by tens of millions a year,

0:25:06 > 0:25:09which is good because we all seem to be growing increasingly worried

0:25:09 > 0:25:14about the effect of plastic waste on the environment.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51With me now is Water UK's chief executive, Michael Roberts.

0:26:51 > 0:26:58How will this work?Companies, shops, businesses, cafes sign up to

0:26:58 > 0:27:02offer free tap water for people to fill up the bottles, they put a

0:27:02 > 0:27:06sticker on the window, we provide a national app so on the move you can

0:27:06 > 0:27:11find out where a free refill point is and top up.There are 30 cities

0:27:11 > 0:27:14across England doing this already, how is it going?It is going well

0:27:14 > 0:27:18but it is early days. We were inspired by the grass roots campaign

0:27:18 > 0:27:23that started in places like Bristol. Tell our audience about that. What

0:27:23 > 0:27:28was going on in Bristol?Local campaigners who are passionate about

0:27:28 > 0:27:32removing plastics from our environment in Bristol, which is a

0:27:32 > 0:27:38city which has great historical reference to the sea, so it is about

0:27:38 > 0:27:42the city almost repaying the sea for the wealth that was generated for

0:27:42 > 0:27:46the city in the past, by trying to remove the scourge of plastic waste

0:27:46 > 0:27:52in all of our waterways, not just the sea. In Bristol there are 2000

0:27:52 > 0:27:55regular users of the app and many more who use the scheme on a kind of

0:27:55 > 0:28:00ad hoc basis, passing by shops, they see the stick and go in and refill

0:28:00 > 0:28:04for free, and in that way hopefully we are cutting the use of single use

0:28:04 > 0:28:08plastic bottles in the environment. This estimate of cutting use by tens

0:28:08 > 0:28:14of millions of pounds sorry, tens of millions of bottles per year, how

0:28:14 > 0:28:19many? How do you estimate that?So, every day in this country about 16

0:28:19 > 0:28:24million plastic bottles end up either going to landfill, or

0:28:24 > 0:28:27clogging up our rivers, or polluting the environment locally or globally.

0:28:27 > 0:28:33By getting people, not every time necessarily, but as regularly as

0:28:33 > 0:28:38they can, to choose to refill their reusable bottle rather than buying a

0:28:38 > 0:28:42bottle in the supermarket we can make a real difference.Are there

0:28:42 > 0:28:47any concerns about hygiene or not? We do need to be careful about that.

0:28:47 > 0:28:53What is the concern?Inevitably when, for example, if we start to

0:28:53 > 0:28:59see more public water fountains we need to make sure they are properly

0:28:59 > 0:29:02maintained and properly designed, rather than just being a simple

0:29:02 > 0:29:06reincarnation of Victorian water fountains. But this isn't just about

0:29:06 > 0:29:10water fountains, as I said, this is about shops and cafes which have

0:29:10 > 0:29:16dispensing points anyway to make it easy for people to get access to

0:29:16 > 0:29:20what is actually in this country some of the best drinking water in

0:29:20 > 0:29:23the world. People can forget that. But we have some of the greatest tap

0:29:23 > 0:29:28water in the world.Things I didn't know, we have some of the greatest

0:29:28 > 0:29:32tap water in the world. I suppose it is quite obvious but I have never

0:29:32 > 0:29:36thought of it like that. We take it for granted. I know we pay for it

0:29:36 > 0:29:41but we take it for granted.We do take it for granted, it doesn't come

0:29:41 > 0:29:44about easily, the water has to be collected, treated, stored and

0:29:44 > 0:29:49dispensed through a network of of pipes. The amazing thing is that

0:29:49 > 0:29:53through huge investment over the last 30 years we have moved from

0:29:53 > 0:29:59being the dirty man of Europe to providing world-class quality tap

0:29:59 > 0:30:04water and it's great value. If you refill a bottle in one of these

0:30:04 > 0:30:08refill points it costs a fraction of a penny. If you buy it in the

0:30:08 > 0:30:13supermarket it costs more than 300 times that. Phenomenal value.Enough

0:30:13 > 0:30:18said. Thank you, Michael.

0:30:18 > 0:30:19Still to come.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21The law of joint enterprise: where someone can be convicted

0:30:21 > 0:30:24of murder even if they did not inflict the fatal blow.

0:30:24 > 0:30:26Two years ago the Supreme Court ruled it had been

0:30:26 > 0:30:27wrongly interpreted.

0:30:27 > 0:30:35What's changed?

0:30:41 > 0:30:43And more on the fall out of the men-only charity gala

0:30:43 > 0:30:51where hostesses were harassed and groped by attendees.

0:30:54 > 0:31:01Brian has e-mailed on this: Well done, media. Well done.

0:31:03 > 0:31:05done, media. Well done. You deprive much-needed money for Great Ormond

0:31:05 > 0:31:14Street Hospital, over 500,000 pounds lost and staying in people's pocket.

0:31:14 > 0:31:21The result event is always as -- the event is always a success and these

0:31:21 > 0:31:25women are not making official complaint. They also do not complain

0:31:25 > 0:31:29when the attend women only night which are also a great way to

0:31:29 > 0:31:33support charities. We will talk to Norman Smith at Westminster about

0:31:33 > 0:31:36the reprimand that the families Minister has had for to that event.

0:31:36 > 0:31:40Time for the latest news - here's Carol.

0:31:40 > 0:31:43The Education Minister Nadhim Zahawi has been reprimanded by No 10

0:31:43 > 0:31:47for attending a men-only charity dinner.

0:31:47 > 0:31:49Mr Zahawi attended The Presidents Club's function

0:31:49 > 0:31:51at the Dorchester Hotel, where women employed as hostesses

0:31:51 > 0:31:54say they were groped.

0:31:54 > 0:31:56The minister said he felt uncomfortable

0:31:56 > 0:31:59and left the event early.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01The Charity Commission says it's investigating the allegations

0:32:01 > 0:32:04"as a matter of urgency".

0:32:04 > 0:32:07Theresa May will use a speech at the World Economic Forum

0:32:07 > 0:32:09in Switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies

0:32:09 > 0:32:15like Facebook and Twitter to tackle extremist material online.

0:32:15 > 0:32:17She'll be speaking in Davos just hours before she meets US

0:32:17 > 0:32:20President Donald Trump - their first meeting since

0:32:20 > 0:32:22she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted

0:32:22 > 0:32:29by the far-right group, Britain First.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31The US President, Donald Trump, says he's 'looking forward'

0:32:31 > 0:32:33to being interviewed by Robert Mueller -

0:32:33 > 0:32:35the FBI's special counsel investigating allegations of Russian

0:32:35 > 0:32:38interference in the US elections.

0:32:38 > 0:32:41In a heated exchange, the president told reporters

0:32:41 > 0:32:44he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be

0:32:44 > 0:32:52questioned by Mr Mueller within two to three weeks.

0:32:52 > 0:32:54REPORTER: Would you do it under oath, Mr President.

0:32:54 > 0:32:55You mean like Hillary did?

0:32:55 > 0:32:56Who said that?

0:32:56 > 0:32:59I said that, would you do it under oath?

0:32:59 > 0:33:07You said it.

0:33:11 > 0:33:12Oh, you said it.

0:33:12 > 0:33:13You say a lot.

0:33:13 > 0:33:15Did Hillary do it under oath?

0:33:15 > 0:33:16I think you have an idea.

0:33:16 > 0:33:18Wait, you don't have an idea?

0:33:18 > 0:33:19You really don't have an idea?

0:33:19 > 0:33:20I really don't remember.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23I'll give you an idea - she didn't do it under oath.

0:33:23 > 0:33:24You won't?

0:33:24 > 0:33:27I would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath.

0:33:27 > 0:33:30At least two people have died and several others injured

0:33:30 > 0:33:32after a train derailed near the city of Milan.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34The regional train was travelling towards Milan's Porta Garibaldi

0:33:34 > 0:33:36station and derailed around the town of Segrate.

0:33:36 > 0:33:38There are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue

0:33:38 > 0:33:41people trapped inside.

0:33:41 > 0:33:43The port of Calais has been closed after a blockade

0:33:43 > 0:33:44by French fisherman.

0:33:44 > 0:33:46P&O Ferries has called on French authorities to clear

0:33:46 > 0:33:49the demonstrators 'without delay.' It's thought the protest

0:33:49 > 0:33:52is about losses French fisherman say are inflicted by some countries' use

0:33:52 > 0:33:58of electrified fishing nets.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01Plans to set up tens of thousands of free water refill

0:34:01 > 0:34:03points across England are being announced today.

0:34:03 > 0:34:07Water UK, which represents water companies and suppliers,

0:34:07 > 0:34:10says it wants to expand a refill scheme first launched in 2015.

0:34:10 > 0:34:12It hopes this will help reduce pollution caused by plastic

0:34:12 > 0:34:19bottles being thrown away.

0:34:19 > 0:34:23That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:34:23 > 0:34:28Here's some sport now with Kat Downes.

0:34:28 > 0:34:31Kyle Edmund is a set down in his Australian Open semi final

0:34:31 > 0:34:32against against Marin Cilic.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34Playing in his first Grand Slam semi final -

0:34:34 > 0:34:42he lost the first set 6-2 against the world number four.

0:34:42 > 0:34:45champion Angelique Kerber - but the world number one came

0:34:45 > 0:34:49through and will face Caroline Wozniaki in the final.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52New England women's boss Phil Neville won't face FA charges -

0:34:52 > 0:35:00despite tweets in 2011 and 2012 that were disparaging to women.

0:35:00 > 0:35:07Back to you.

0:35:07 > 0:35:11Just in, the latest crime figures for England and Wales for the 12

0:35:11 > 0:35:16months to the end of September 20 17th. Compared to the previous year,

0:35:16 > 0:35:24crimes recorded by the police, violent crime is up 20%, knife crime

0:35:24 > 0:35:32up 21%, robberies up 29%, sexual offences up 23%. There is a separate

0:35:32 > 0:35:37crime survey which is based on interviews with 35,000 households.

0:35:37 > 0:35:41That suggests that crime continues to fall. Two lots of figures, one is

0:35:41 > 0:35:47the crime survey, interviews with people about their experience of

0:35:47 > 0:35:49crime, and the other is police recorded crime, with the figures I

0:35:49 > 0:35:55just mentioned.

0:35:55 > 0:35:58just mentioned. Violent crime, knife crime, robbery and sexual offences

0:35:58 > 0:36:06are up in each case. By 20% or more. We will be talking to our home

0:36:06 > 0:36:11affairs correspondent in a few minutes. He will give us the context

0:36:11 > 0:36:13around as figures.

0:36:13 > 0:36:16The law of "joint enterprise" - where someone can be convicted

0:36:16 > 0:36:19of murder even if they did not inflict the fatal blow -

0:36:19 > 0:36:21is being debated by MPs in parliament this morning.

0:36:21 > 0:36:24Two years ago the Supreme Court ruled that this law had been wrongly

0:36:24 > 0:36:27interpreted for more than 30 years, and campaigners thought that this

0:36:27 > 0:36:31would see fewer cases being brought to trial using the law,

0:36:31 > 0:36:34and gave hope to those who believe they and their family members had

0:36:34 > 0:36:40been wrongly imprisoned - but this hasn't happened.

0:36:40 > 0:36:44Here to tell us why - and what MPs can do about it -

0:36:44 > 0:36:47is our legal eagle Clive Coleman.

0:36:47 > 0:36:53So, fill us in on what is the MPs have debated.Let me explain about

0:36:53 > 0:36:57joint enterprise. It is a fascinating and troubling aspect of

0:36:57 > 0:37:02our criminal law. It is an old common law doctrine that allows

0:37:02 > 0:37:07prosecutors to throw the net over a group of people and prosecute them

0:37:07 > 0:37:10all. In murder, if there is a group involved and they don't know who

0:37:10 > 0:37:16inflicted a fatal blow. All of the people involved can be charged and

0:37:16 > 0:37:21convicted of murder. Until 2016, the Supreme Court case that you referred

0:37:21 > 0:37:25to, the test was seen by many as being very low. It was this: All you

0:37:25 > 0:37:32had to prove was that someone within that group has a knife and kills,

0:37:32 > 0:37:39but to prosecute us for murder, all the prosecution have to do is that

0:37:39 > 0:37:44we could have foreseen that that person might kill, or at its lowest

0:37:44 > 0:37:51level, inflict grievous bodily harm. It was a test of foresight, not

0:37:51 > 0:37:54intention. That led to a lot of people who were too morally removed

0:37:54 > 0:37:59from the crime, bit part players or people who weren't playing a part at

0:37:59 > 0:38:02all, being scooped up in the net and being convicted of murder. Many of

0:38:02 > 0:38:08them are serving life sentences. That was the concern. In 2016, the

0:38:08 > 0:38:16Supreme Court had a look at this, and extraordinarily, an incredible

0:38:16 > 0:38:21moment, the president of the Supreme Court said the law had taken a wrong

0:38:21 > 0:38:28turn in applying that foresight test in 1984, that the law had been wrong

0:38:28 > 0:38:32since then. That appeared to open a door for those people who had been

0:38:32 > 0:38:37convicted, they felt, on this low-level foresight test. Since that

0:38:37 > 0:38:40time, the door that has been opened has then been firmly shut by the

0:38:40 > 0:38:45Court of Appeal. A raft of cases have gone to the Court of Appeal,

0:38:45 > 0:38:50and it has rejected every single one of them. One of the key issues at

0:38:50 > 0:38:53the heart of this debate today is that the Supreme Court said that if

0:38:53 > 0:38:58an appeal was being brought out of time, in other words late, and you

0:38:58 > 0:39:07normally have 28 days to bring an appeal, you have to show that there

0:39:07 > 0:39:11was a substantial injustice. That is the controversial issue at the heart

0:39:11 > 0:39:15of all of this. It is for that reason that campaigners believe the

0:39:15 > 0:39:19door that was opened by the Supreme Court has been firmly shut, and that

0:39:19 > 0:39:24leads to this debate today.What might be the outcome of the debate,

0:39:24 > 0:39:28if anything?Campaigners would like a the law now. The fact that this

0:39:28 > 0:39:32has gone to the highest court in the land, gone back to the Court of

0:39:32 > 0:39:36Appeal, this would now need some change in the law, with parliament

0:39:36 > 0:39:40intervening to change the law. We have a big issue with the law of

0:39:40 > 0:39:48murder. We don't have degrees of murder, as they have in the United

0:39:48 > 0:39:52States. We simply have murder, and if you are convicted, you get a life

0:39:52 > 0:39:55sentence. The Law commission looked at this years ago, and they called

0:39:55 > 0:40:01our law of homicide a rickety structure. One way around this in

0:40:01 > 0:40:05the long term would be for us to have degrees of murder.Thank you,

0:40:05 > 0:40:07Clive.

0:40:07 > 0:40:14Now let's talk to Sally Halsall - Mum of Alex Henry who was convicted

0:40:14 > 0:40:16in 2014 for the joint enterprise murder of Taqui Khezihi.

0:40:16 > 0:40:19She has been campaigning for law change since he was convicted -

0:40:19 > 0:40:25and Charlotte Henry - Alex's sister.

0:40:25 > 0:40:28Thank you, both, very much for coming onto the programme. I want to

0:40:28 > 0:40:33take you back, first of all, to what Clive was telling us about. When the

0:40:33 > 0:40:36Supreme Court, the highest in the land, ruled that this law had been

0:40:36 > 0:40:40wrongly interpreted for more than 30 years, what did you think would

0:40:40 > 0:40:45happen with your son's case, convicted of murder on joint

0:40:45 > 0:40:47enterprise and serving a very long prison sentence?I thought he would

0:40:47 > 0:40:52come home.That it would be as simple as that?I thought, they will

0:40:52 > 0:41:00get it through the appeal court quickly, he will come home. And so

0:41:00 > 0:41:06will all the other prisoners, all 750 of them that we support in our

0:41:06 > 0:41:10campaign group.And that hasn't happened, Charlotte, because you

0:41:10 > 0:41:15have had to prove that there was a substantial injustice. How difficult

0:41:15 > 0:41:23is that to prove?It is an incredibly high legal burden,

0:41:23 > 0:41:28impossibly high, usually when there has been an error at trial, and the

0:41:28 > 0:41:32Court of Appeal will look to see the conviction is unsafe, which means

0:41:32 > 0:41:34looking at the error and understanding whether it might

0:41:34 > 0:41:39reasonably have made a difference to the jury's verdict. The court will

0:41:39 > 0:41:45look to see whether the defendant has proved that the change in the

0:41:45 > 0:41:49law 100% would have made a difference. Bearing in mind, even

0:41:49 > 0:41:55under the current law, you can be convicted for your presence at the

0:41:55 > 0:41:59scene. If presence continues to be enough, how can we prove that the

0:41:59 > 0:42:04change in the law would have made a difference?Why is it required for

0:42:04 > 0:42:08an appeal to prove substantial injustice for the joint enterprise

0:42:08 > 0:42:12law as opposed to any other offence? It is called the principle of

0:42:12 > 0:42:17certainty that they look at. The idea is that there is a final point

0:42:17 > 0:42:22where the law is the law and no one can appeal past that point. That is

0:42:22 > 0:42:27why we have a 28 day time frame in which someone can appeal, based on

0:42:27 > 0:42:37an error of law. Anyone passed the 28 days, to uphold the principle of

0:42:37 > 0:42:44uncertain -- of certainty,...Does it seem unfair, unequal, compared to

0:42:44 > 0:42:50other attempts to appeal a crime?It seems unjust. The court are saying

0:42:50 > 0:42:56that anything short of substantial injustice, regardless of it being

0:42:56 > 0:42:59still in injustice, is OK, which is ludicrous, considering it is called

0:42:59 > 0:43:05the justice system.In terms of the day's debate in the Commons, what

0:43:05 > 0:43:13are you hoping for?We are hoping for a change in the law. Obviously,

0:43:13 > 0:43:21I'm hoping my son will come home. But there are so many families that

0:43:21 > 0:43:31have joined the growing army of our campaign group, because they haven't

0:43:31 > 0:43:34stopped convicting people under the net of joint enterprise. Young

0:43:34 > 0:43:40people, most recently, we have had a flurry of 13 and 14-year-olds

0:43:40 > 0:43:46getting life. In most of the cases, they are minimum mandatory

0:43:46 > 0:43:52sentences, so my son got 19 years and he has to serve every single one

0:43:52 > 0:43:58of those before he can even consider getting parole.And you say he was a

0:43:58 > 0:44:04bystander, effectively? The individual who committed the fatal

0:44:04 > 0:44:11blow pleaded guilty. Your son, you say, was simply a bystander.

0:44:11 > 0:44:16Literally, you know, in other cases, he would have been a witness. He

0:44:16 > 0:44:21didn't do anything to hurt anybody on that day. We have fought so hard

0:44:21 > 0:44:25with the group to get them all out, but particularly, we are fighting

0:44:25 > 0:44:30for Alex because he's my son, obviously, but he also has autism

0:44:30 > 0:44:34and is a vulnerable adult. This is what the net of joint enterprise

0:44:34 > 0:44:40does, it captures the vulnerable, and it is... It destroys families,

0:44:40 > 0:44:45and there is a great ripple effect of the damage it causes. We have

0:44:45 > 0:44:50had, you know, a prisoner, you know, tidying, we have had one of the

0:44:50 > 0:44:54mothers committing suicide. It is absolutely devastating, and this is

0:44:54 > 0:45:00our justice system. They are doing this knowingly, knowingly, and they

0:45:00 > 0:45:03should be convicted under joint enterprise. It is a dreadful,

0:45:03 > 0:45:08dreadful thing that they are doing to so many families, and it has to

0:45:08 > 0:45:14stop. And our group are making a noise. Yes, we are a bunch of noisy

0:45:14 > 0:45:18women, and we're not going away.

0:45:18 > 0:45:24A man lost his life, your brother was there, and the jury decided that

0:45:24 > 0:45:30he was guilty of joint enterprise murder. We have to remember the

0:45:30 > 0:45:34victim's family here, don't we?Of course, our loss does not compare to

0:45:34 > 0:45:39their loss, not at all. I can visit my brother, I can speak to him on

0:45:39 > 0:45:42the phone, they have to visit a graveside and also the brother of

0:45:42 > 0:45:47the victim was there and saw that happen and we never forget that but

0:45:47 > 0:45:52I can't lose my brother too for 19 years, can't wait until he's 40 to

0:45:52 > 0:45:56get him home, it's not fair. Charlotte, you are motivated to go

0:45:56 > 0:45:59into more because of what's happened to your brother and you are a

0:45:59 > 0:46:04trainee lawyer now, is that correct? Yes, I think it's important to know

0:46:04 > 0:46:10your enemy and the law is my enemy. So I will try and be as good as I

0:46:10 > 0:46:17can add it.Thank you both for talking to us today and we

0:46:18 > 0:46:19talking to us today and we will see what comes out and emerges from this

0:46:19 > 0:46:22debate in the Commons, the first time they have talked about it. We

0:46:22 > 0:46:24will see what happens. Thank you for coming onto the programme.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27Some breaking news Justin Forsyth the number of people sleeping rough

0:46:27 > 0:46:31on the streets of England has reached the highest level since

0:46:31 > 0:46:35current records began. New figures for the Department for housing,

0:46:35 > 0:46:38Communities and Local Government showed an estimated 4751 people were

0:46:38 > 0:46:44sleeping rough last autumn. It's measured on one might across

0:46:44 > 0:46:48England. This e-mail from David: I've been asking you if you have

0:46:48 > 0:46:50slept rough, what were the circumstances and what happened,

0:46:50 > 0:46:55what effect it had on you and how did you get yourself out of it?

0:46:55 > 0:46:58David says I've experienced being homeless for a while, dramatic time

0:46:58 > 0:47:03in my life, I was depressed, addicted to alcohol and drugs. To me

0:47:03 > 0:47:07it was an ever increasing vicious circle which ended only when I was

0:47:07 > 0:47:12sent to prison due to my anti-social behaviour. I sought help and thanks

0:47:12 > 0:47:17to the aid by self-help groups I found the motivation and belief to

0:47:17 > 0:47:20rebuild my life. Today I am happy and content with life and often see

0:47:20 > 0:47:23homeless people on the streets and remember having a broken spirit and

0:47:23 > 0:47:29seeing life as a massive struggle. I hope they too break the cycle. We

0:47:29 > 0:47:34are going to talk or about who have slept rough after 10:30am. If it has

0:47:34 > 0:47:39happened to you please send me an e-mail or a message on Facebook, you

0:47:39 > 0:47:43don't have to leave your name, just so I can feed your experiences in to

0:47:43 > 0:47:45the debate.

0:47:45 > 0:47:47The Culture Secretary Matt Hancock is welcoming the closure

0:47:47 > 0:47:49of the Presidents Club organisation, after hostesses at its men-only

0:47:49 > 0:47:52charity gala in London said they were harassed and groped.

0:47:52 > 0:47:54The event was attended by senior figures from business,

0:47:54 > 0:47:55finance and politics.

0:47:55 > 0:47:59Downing Street says Theresa May has been appalled by the reports.

0:47:59 > 0:48:06Our political guru, Norman Smith, is at Westminster.

0:48:06 > 0:48:11She must have raised her eyebrows in particular at the fact that one of

0:48:11 > 0:48:15her ministers recently promoted to ministerial level was there.This

0:48:15 > 0:48:19was Nadhim Zahawi, who is the children's minister, who went to

0:48:19 > 0:48:24this event and as a result of that he was hauled in yesterday by the

0:48:24 > 0:48:29Chief Whip and reminded of his responsibilities. I imagine he is a

0:48:29 > 0:48:33thoroughly chastened man by now. He says he went there and was

0:48:33 > 0:48:39uncomfortable with what was going on and left early at about 9:30pm, so

0:48:39 > 0:48:44perhaps before things got even more out of hand. I don't think there is

0:48:44 > 0:48:49any question of him being sacked or removed from his post. There does

0:48:49 > 0:48:53not seem to be any suggestion that might happen. But I imagine for many

0:48:53 > 0:48:59MPs and many ministers it has been a sort of wake-up call to think about

0:48:59 > 0:49:05the sort of events they accept invitations to, and Nadhim Zahawi,

0:49:05 > 0:49:09when he emerged from his house this morning, he was keeping his counsel.

0:49:09 > 0:49:19Just have a look.Why did you attend a male only dinner?

0:49:19 > 0:49:26So, no words from Mr

0:49:26 > 0:49:30-- Nadhim Zahawi this morning. One of the things being looked at is

0:49:30 > 0:49:34whether anything can be done to try and ensure such events can happen

0:49:34 > 0:49:39again. There have been all sorts of demands, for example, the equalities

0:49:39 > 0:49:45act to be toughened up, to be given real teeth. There have been

0:49:45 > 0:49:49suggestions the Charities Commission should be more focused rather than

0:49:49 > 0:49:51just seeing what different fundraising events are like and

0:49:51 > 0:49:57whether they should be able to claim they are charities. The difficulty

0:49:57 > 0:50:01is there are laws already in place. I was having a look at the

0:50:01 > 0:50:05equalities act and that already says it is an offence to engage in

0:50:05 > 0:50:10degrading or humiliating behaviour, to violate someone's dignity, sexual

0:50:10 > 0:50:16harassment. Those are already offences. Barroso criminal offences

0:50:16 > 0:50:18of indecent assault and sexual assault so be offences are already

0:50:18 > 0:50:24there. -- there are also criminal offences. It's more about trying to

0:50:24 > 0:50:28change the culture, all the more so because of the recent scandals we

0:50:28 > 0:50:32have had at Westminster. That, I think, was what the minister this

0:50:32 > 0:50:38morning when he was talking about it, Matthew Hancock, was driving at.

0:50:38 > 0:50:41That has to be the real consequence of the publicity surrounding the

0:50:41 > 0:50:45Presidents Club.

0:50:45 > 0:50:48I understand that Mr Zahawi was invited because it was a charity

0:50:48 > 0:50:51event, and left early because he was uncomfortable with it.

0:50:51 > 0:50:58That's what I understand.

0:50:58 > 0:51:01I understand he's spoken to the Chief Whip, but there's a much

0:51:01 > 0:51:03bigger thing here, which is that we should

0:51:03 > 0:51:05get away from the sorts of

0:51:05 > 0:51:08events where men and women are treated very differently and that

0:51:08 > 0:51:16there are reports of some pretty terrible behaviour.

0:51:18 > 0:51:21Interesting too I thought how Mrs May's language during the day

0:51:21 > 0:51:26yesterday toughened up as the sort of scale and outrage built.

0:51:26 > 0:51:31Initially No 10 said she was uncomfortable by what she had read

0:51:31 > 0:51:34in the paper. By the end of the day she said she was appalled, and of

0:51:34 > 0:51:40course called for Nadhim Zahawi to be called in. I think she gradually

0:51:40 > 0:51:44realised just the nature of outrage, not just at Westminster but more

0:51:44 > 0:51:48broadly about what had gone on at the Presidents Club.Matt Hancock

0:51:48 > 0:51:53talking in Davos where Theresa May is on her way, she is going to give

0:51:53 > 0:51:58a speech and also meet Donald Trump. It will be interesting if we could

0:51:58 > 0:52:02be there to see how they get on. They have had that sort of Twitter

0:52:02 > 0:52:08spat and he has cancelled his trip here.All the indications are that

0:52:08 > 0:52:14Mrs May and the UK are not flavour of the month. In part because of

0:52:14 > 0:52:23that Twitter spat. You may remember when Donald Trump tweeted Theresa

0:52:23 > 0:52:28May directly saying they need to be focused on radical Islam and Mrs May

0:52:28 > 0:52:32criticising Donald Trump for his support of far right groups. But it

0:52:32 > 0:52:37is more than that, you sense we have been jumped in the queue by the

0:52:37 > 0:52:40likes of President Macron and others and Mrs May has quite a lot of

0:52:40 > 0:52:45catching up to do today to try and heal the apparent rift with Donald

0:52:45 > 0:52:48Trump, made all the more important quite obviously because of Brexit

0:52:48 > 0:52:53and the fact we really, really do need those new trade deals with

0:52:53 > 0:52:56countries outside the EU command front of the list of course has to

0:52:56 > 0:53:01be the United States.Thank you very much.

0:53:01 > 0:53:02Coming up.

0:53:02 > 0:53:05Britain's Kyle Edmund is on court, as he attempts to reach his first

0:53:05 > 0:53:08Grand Slam final against Marin Cilic at the Australian Open.

0:53:08 > 0:53:13He is currently one set down and it's going to serve in the second

0:53:13 > 0:53:17set, currently 4-4. Those are pictures from a previous match

0:53:17 > 0:53:21obviously, that's not happening right now. We will ask what is

0:53:21 > 0:53:24behind the success of British tennis, although that question might

0:53:24 > 0:53:27be a bit premature.

0:53:27 > 0:53:33New crime figures have been released this morning. Danny Shaw is outside

0:53:33 > 0:53:35the Office For National Statistics in central London. There are two

0:53:35 > 0:53:40sets of figures, talk our audience through them.As always there are

0:53:40 > 0:53:45two sets of crime figures, there are offences reported to and recorded by

0:53:45 > 0:53:50police in England and Wales by 44 forces including British Transport

0:53:50 > 0:53:55Police, then a separate set of data, which is the crime survey of England

0:53:55 > 0:53:59and Wales, based on interviews with 35,000 households, and includes

0:53:59 > 0:54:05offences that are not reported to police. Crime survey is good at

0:54:05 > 0:54:08predicting and showing and estimating longer term levels of

0:54:08 > 0:54:15crime. It is not so good at certain smaller categories of crime,

0:54:15 > 0:54:18particularly certain categories of violent crime. So, the picture is

0:54:18 > 0:54:23this. In terms of the crime survey, crimes are still on a downward

0:54:23 > 0:54:28trend, that's what the survey is saying. Down by 10% overall, and

0:54:28 > 0:54:31that is largely driven by an unexpected drop in fraud and

0:54:31 > 0:54:36Computer Misuse Act fences, down 15% year-on-year, according to the crime

0:54:36 > 0:54:41survey. This is the first time we have been able to get an accurate

0:54:41 > 0:54:44comparison of fraud and Computer Misuse Act fences according to the

0:54:44 > 0:54:49survey data. Those are the long-term trends. When we come to the police

0:54:49 > 0:54:53recorded figures, crimes police have to deal with, what we are seeing is

0:54:53 > 0:54:59an upward trend, 14% year-on-year, 14% rise in police recorded crimes

0:54:59 > 0:55:08and there are some sharp increases in certain areas, violent crime up

0:55:08 > 0:55:1420%, sexual offences up 23%, robberies up 29%, car crime up 18%

0:55:14 > 0:55:19and thefts up 12%, and when you look in the categories of violent they

0:55:19 > 0:55:24are particularly concerning with increases of knife crime up 21% with

0:55:24 > 0:55:32knife possession offences up 35%, the highest it has been since around

0:55:32 > 0:55:362009. Look at the homicide figures. I always like to look at the

0:55:36 > 0:55:40homicide figures because these are not prone to any changes in

0:55:40 > 0:55:46recording practices. What they show when you take out the terror related

0:55:46 > 0:55:50deaths from the attacks this year and Hillsborough deaths counted in

0:55:50 > 0:55:57last year's figures, if you take those away you see 650 homicides, a

0:55:57 > 0:56:02rise of 57 killings year-on-year. That is showing that at the top bend

0:56:02 > 0:56:05the most serious levels of violence are definitely going up.From your

0:56:05 > 0:56:12long experience of covering this area, what might be your views on

0:56:12 > 0:56:20why violent crime is up, knife crime is up, robbery is up, and homicide

0:56:20 > 0:56:23is up?It is difficult to say. Is it to do with the fact there are fewer

0:56:23 > 0:56:27police officers on the streets and there are fewer police officers

0:56:27 > 0:56:33perhaps able to attend events which might lead to a murder later on, for

0:56:33 > 0:56:37example domestic violence? Is it because there are fewer stops and

0:56:37 > 0:56:40searches being conducted? Those are questions that are being asked and

0:56:40 > 0:56:43that is certainly what the police would say is contributing to it.

0:56:43 > 0:56:47Could it be something to do with the fact that there are more people in

0:56:47 > 0:56:50work, people have more disposable income, they spend more on drink,

0:56:50 > 0:56:54they get involved in fights and that contributes to violence? Could it be

0:56:54 > 0:56:59to do with other factors we are not aware of? It is a difficult one and

0:56:59 > 0:57:06there are no simple answers.Danny Shaw, our home affairs

0:57:06 > 0:57:09correspondent, reporting from the National office for statistics. We

0:57:09 > 0:57:15are going to talk to four people who have experience of crime, some are

0:57:15 > 0:57:17victims, some work with ex-offenders, and we are going to

0:57:17 > 0:57:21talk about that in the next half an hour. The latest news and sport on

0:57:21 > 0:57:23the way at 10am but before that the weather.

0:57:23 > 0:57:25the way at 10am but before that the weather. Good morning, different

0:57:25 > 0:57:30sort of day on the weight today compared to yesterday. Yesterday we

0:57:30 > 0:57:35saw wet and windy and mild weather, which had a consequence on the

0:57:35 > 0:57:39rivers in parts of Scotland and northern England -- on the way. This

0:57:39 > 0:57:44was Dumfries yesterday, this behind me is a river whose, snowmelt and

0:57:44 > 0:57:49mild weather and rain sending river levels rising and they could rise

0:57:49 > 0:57:52again this weekend. That will push in on Saturday bringing heavy rain,

0:57:52 > 0:57:56Storm Georgina is off out of the way but we are into cooler air at the

0:57:56 > 0:57:59moment and these clusters of cloud pushing across the western half of

0:57:59 > 0:58:04the UK at the moment meaning many eastern areas get a lunchtime

0:58:04 > 0:58:08staying largely dry but the showers will work their way further eased

0:58:08 > 0:58:12into the afternoon. Some longer spells of heavy and Bunbury rain

0:58:12 > 0:58:15across parts of northern and western England and Wales and southern

0:58:15 > 0:58:19Scotland -- thundery. Are still a few showers in northern Scotland but

0:58:19 > 0:58:23throughout the central belt of Scotland it could stay dry but

0:58:23 > 0:58:25temperatures dropping rapidly. Northern Ireland will see showers

0:58:25 > 0:58:28come and go in the afternoon and into the evening but by the time we

0:58:28 > 0:58:32hit the evening rush hour it is northern England, the south-west

0:58:32 > 0:58:35continuing to seek every showers, the odd dry spell in between but

0:58:35 > 0:58:39some of the driest weather along with Central Scotland could be

0:58:39 > 0:58:41across East Anglia and part of the south-east where there will be few

0:58:41 > 0:58:46showers in the forecast. There is a breeze blowing today, it will slow

0:58:46 > 0:58:50down tonight, a few showers across England and Wales tonight, one to

0:58:50 > 0:58:53continue into the morning for Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire

0:58:53 > 0:58:57and into Cornwall, but more likely to see showers in the north-east of

0:58:57 > 0:59:01Scotland, central and eastern England, so in the west clearer

0:59:01 > 0:59:04skies, colder than last night, widespread frost across western

0:59:04 > 0:59:08areas, maybe a bit I see in a few areas, the morning rush-hour

0:59:08 > 0:59:11Saint-Cloud, a few showers in north-east England fading away into

0:59:11 > 0:59:19the afternoon, leaving most of you with the week -- some bad. Lighter

0:59:19 > 0:59:25winds and not feeling too bad at all. This is a developing weather

0:59:25 > 0:59:29system, some stormy weather between us and Iceland, wet and windy for us

0:59:29 > 0:59:33in the UK. That wet weather spreading across quickly from west

0:59:33 > 0:59:36to east thanks to the strength of the wind, severe gale force in the

0:59:36 > 0:59:42north of Scotland and showers in its wake. Temperatures in double figures

0:59:42 > 0:59:45continuing with the mild air into Sunday, even mild as south-westerly

0:59:45 > 0:59:48winds take hold for just about all. There will be some rain across

0:59:48 > 0:59:53Scotland, heavy at times, that and further snowmelt means river levels

0:59:53 > 0:59:57could rise, further flooding not out of the question. For many on Sunday

0:59:57 > 1:00:03the dry of the two days on Sunday, brighter spells in Central and

1:00:03 > 1:00:07eastern areas and one or two spots could hit 15 degrees. That's how it

1:00:07 > 1:00:08is looking.

1:00:08 > 1:00:12could hit 15 degrees. That's how it is looking. Thank you very much.

1:00:12 > 1:00:19Good morning, hello, it's 10am, Thursday, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:00:20 > 1:00:23Crime figures just released show a rise in the number of violent

1:00:23 > 1:00:24offences recorded by police.

1:00:24 > 1:00:26But a separate survey of households suggests overall,

1:00:26 > 1:00:29crime has continued to fall.

1:00:29 > 1:00:33In the category of violent crime, there are concerning increases in

1:00:33 > 1:00:41knife crime, up 21%, with knife possession and possession --

1:00:41 > 1:00:46offences at the highest it has been since 2009.We will talk to people

1:00:46 > 1:00:51have been the victims of crime and those who are trying to stop

1:00:51 > 1:00:55offensive taking place.

1:00:55 > 1:00:58Theresa May is at Davos to give a speech at the world economic Forum.

1:00:58 > 1:01:02Donald Trump has just arrived in Zurich aboard air force one, en

1:01:02 > 1:01:09route to Davos. We will be live in Davos later this hour. And Kyle

1:01:09 > 1:01:15Edmund is on court in the semifinal of the Australian open, where he is

1:01:15 > 1:01:25one set down to Marin Cilic, and it is 5-5 in the second set.He has

1:01:25 > 1:01:35come back in matches so far, so I am not unduly worried at this point.

1:01:38 > 1:01:45His matches live on five live at the moment.

1:01:51 > 1:01:53The Education Minister Nadhim Zahawi has been reprimanded

1:01:53 > 1:01:55by number 10 for attending the men-only charity dinner.

1:01:55 > 1:01:56Is

1:01:56 > 1:01:57Mr Zahawi attended The Presidents Club's function

1:01:57 > 1:02:00at the Dorchester Hotel, where women employed as hostesses

1:02:00 > 1:02:01say they were groped.

1:02:01 > 1:02:02The minister said he felt uncomfortable

1:02:02 > 1:02:07and left the event early.

1:02:07 > 1:02:10The Charity commission says it is investigating the allegations as a

1:02:10 > 1:02:11matter of urgency.

1:02:11 > 1:02:14The latest crime figures for England and Wales shows crimes recorded

1:02:14 > 1:02:16by police increased by 14% in the year to September 2017.

1:02:16 > 1:02:19Violent crime was up 20% and there were also increases

1:02:19 > 1:02:20in robbery and sexual offences.

1:02:20 > 1:02:22The separate Crime Survey - based on interviews

1:02:22 > 1:02:24with 35,000 households - suggests that crime is not a common

1:02:24 > 1:02:32experience for most people.

1:02:38 > 1:02:40Theresa May will use a speech at the World Economic Forum

1:02:40 > 1:02:42in Switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies

1:02:42 > 1:02:45like Facebook and Twitter to tackle extremist material online.

1:02:45 > 1:02:48She'll be speaking in Davos just hours before she meets US

1:02:48 > 1:02:49President Donald Trump, their first meeting since

1:02:49 > 1:02:54she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted

1:02:54 > 1:03:01by the far-right group, Britain First.

1:03:01 > 1:03:04The US President, Donald Trump, says he's 'looking forward'

1:03:04 > 1:03:05to being interviewed by Robert Mueller -

1:03:05 > 1:03:07the FBI's special counsel investigating allegations of Russian

1:03:07 > 1:03:09interference in the US elections.

1:03:09 > 1:03:11In a heated exchange, the president told reporters

1:03:11 > 1:03:14he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be

1:03:14 > 1:03:19questioned by Mr Mueller within two to three weeks.

1:03:19 > 1:03:22REPORTER: Would you do it under oath, Mr President.

1:03:22 > 1:03:23You mean like Hillary did?

1:03:23 > 1:03:24Who said that?

1:03:24 > 1:03:26I said that, would you do it under oath?

1:03:26 > 1:03:27Oh, you said it.

1:03:27 > 1:03:28You say a lot.

1:03:28 > 1:03:29Did Hillary do it under oath?

1:03:29 > 1:03:33I think you have an idea.

1:03:33 > 1:03:34Wait, you don't have an idea?

1:03:34 > 1:03:37You really don't have an idea?

1:03:37 > 1:03:38I really don't remember.

1:03:38 > 1:03:41I'll give you an idea - she didn't do it under oath.

1:03:41 > 1:03:42You won't?

1:03:42 > 1:03:47I would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath.

1:03:47 > 1:03:49At least two people have died and several others injured

1:03:49 > 1:03:52after a train derailed near the city of Milan.

1:03:52 > 1:03:56The regional train was travelling towards Milan's Porta Garibaldi

1:03:56 > 1:04:03station and derailed around the town of Segrate.

1:04:03 > 1:04:06There are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue

1:04:06 > 1:04:14people trapped inside.

1:04:18 > 1:04:21The number of rough sleepers has reached the highest level since

1:04:21 > 1:04:29records began. There were 4751 people sleeping rough in 2017. Data

1:04:29 > 1:04:34suggests that the number has risen by 128% since 2010.

1:04:34 > 1:04:36The port of Calais has been closed after a blockade

1:04:36 > 1:04:37by French fishermen.

1:04:37 > 1:04:39P&O Ferries has called on French authorities to clear

1:04:39 > 1:04:41the demonstrators 'without delay.' It's thought the protest

1:04:41 > 1:04:44is about losses French fisherman say are inflicted by some countries' use

1:04:44 > 1:04:48of electrified fishing nets.

1:04:48 > 1:04:56That's a summary of the latest BBC news - more at 10:30am.

1:05:01 > 1:05:05We will talk about rough sleeping in the last half-hour of the programme.

1:05:05 > 1:05:11Richard says this: I am a counsellor now, but I slept rough at Paddington

1:05:11 > 1:05:14station for two nights some years ago. I bought the wrong rail ticket

1:05:14 > 1:05:19and I couldn't get back to Stoke. It was freezing cold and I had to curl

1:05:19 > 1:05:23up around a light in the floor to keep warm. I was totally ignored by

1:05:23 > 1:05:27commuters and staff. It only lasted two days, but I will never forget

1:05:27 > 1:05:31it. Barbara says: We were homeless for a year. The local council

1:05:31 > 1:05:38wouldn't have my family, some in the end, we stayed down by the river in

1:05:38 > 1:05:41a tent. The only way we got help was going to our local church. This

1:05:41 > 1:05:46viewer says: I am nearly 30, but between the ages of 14 and 21, I was

1:05:46 > 1:05:50on and off homeless. If I wasn't lucky enough to stop on someone's so

1:05:50 > 1:05:56far, I would sleep in parks, usually around the play equipment area, or

1:05:56 > 1:06:00in 24-hour toilets. The main place was a 24-hour women's toilet where I

1:06:00 > 1:06:05would sleep on the counter. I was 15, 16 at the time, and I would use

1:06:05 > 1:06:09the hand dryer for warmth in the winter. Thank you for those, do keep

1:06:09 > 1:06:19them coming in.

1:06:19 > 1:06:23them coming in. Catherine is back with the sport. How is our Kyle

1:06:23 > 1:06:27doing?He is battling to stay in it. He is one set down in the

1:06:27 > 1:06:36semifinals. Marin Cilic took that first set. If Kyle Edmund can come

1:06:36 > 1:06:40back and win this match, he will overtake Andy Murray as British

1:06:40 > 1:06:43number one. Never mind getting into the final of the Australian open, of

1:06:43 > 1:06:48course. The women's Trophy will have a new champion because neither

1:06:48 > 1:06:55Simona Halep. Caroline Wozniacki have won a grand slam before. Simona

1:06:55 > 1:06:59Halep beat Angelique Kerber, winning the decider 9-7. Extraordinary

1:06:59 > 1:07:07tennis from both women. Arsenal beat Chelsea last night.

1:07:07 > 1:07:11Chelsea already had a goal disallowed by the time Eden Hazard

1:07:11 > 1:07:16put them ahead. Arsenal were soon back level, and doubled the

1:07:16 > 1:07:27direction -- a double deflection... Is they will face Manchester City in

1:07:27 > 1:07:39next month's final.In the end, I would say, yes, it was a little bit

1:07:39 > 1:07:42of a deflected goal on the first, and the second as well was a bit

1:07:42 > 1:07:50lucky. Overall, I felt we controlled the game well in the second half.

1:07:50 > 1:07:57Rangers jump above Aberdeen. John McGinn's goal was enough to seal

1:07:57 > 1:08:01victory for the burning. Ross County lost the Motherwell. Celtic are

1:08:01 > 1:08:07still 11 points clear at the top. England women's new head coach Phil

1:08:07 > 1:08:11Neville won't face any disciplinary action from the FA over historic old

1:08:11 > 1:08:17sexist tweets.

1:08:17 > 1:08:19sexist tweets. He apparently assume that women would be cooking

1:08:19 > 1:08:23breakfast rather than reading his tweets. The women in football groups

1:08:23 > 1:08:26say more attention should be paid to have the next women's coaches can be

1:08:26 > 1:08:32brought through. Engel's Moeen Ali has been talking

1:08:32 > 1:08:35about the determination in the cab. England are looking to avenge their

1:08:35 > 1:08:40Ashes defeat with a series whitewash in the one-day tournament.This is

1:08:40 > 1:08:45the one series you really want a whitewash in. Especially in

1:08:45 > 1:08:48Australia. I don't think we've ever been 3-0 up here before. It is

1:08:48 > 1:08:55something that all the guys, after the Ashes, even the one-day players

1:08:55 > 1:09:02are keen.Kyle Edmund is into the second set tie-break in the

1:09:02 > 1:09:06Australian open semifinal. When this one and he is very much in it. Lose

1:09:06 > 1:09:12it and it is an awful long way back. It is. Thank you. We will keep you

1:09:12 > 1:09:14updated, of course.

1:09:14 > 1:09:17New crime figures released this morning for England and Wales reveal

1:09:17 > 1:09:20that violent crime levels - such as knife and gun crime -

1:09:20 > 1:09:27have continued to increase.

1:09:27 > 1:09:30The separate crime survey for England and Wales shows that crime

1:09:30 > 1:09:34is not a common experience for most people, with eight in ten adults

1:09:34 > 1:09:37surveyed saying they were not a victim of crime. We are bringing

1:09:37 > 1:09:43together for my people who've seen the effects of crime close-up.

1:09:43 > 1:09:46In the studio we have Sephton Henry, a former gang member who now works

1:09:46 > 1:09:48to prevent gang related crime, Rishi Chodhury who was conned out

1:09:48 > 1:09:50of several thousand pounds when someone gained access

1:09:50 > 1:09:52to his paypal account, Rachel Thomas of SaferPlaces

1:09:52 > 1:09:54who works to support victims of domestic abuse,

1:09:54 > 1:09:57and from Chelmsford we can speak to Caroline Shearer whose son Jay

1:09:57 > 1:10:05was killed in a knife attack in 2012.

1:10:12 > 1:10:18How do you react to the news that one crime survey says that crime has

1:10:18 > 1:10:22been falling, but the figures show that crime has gone up a decent?

1:10:22 > 1:10:25Surveys aren't worth the paper they're written on, to be fair. You

1:10:25 > 1:10:31could go out and it is potluck. We all know that crime is going up. We

1:10:31 > 1:10:33haven't got enough police on the floor. They are running around like

1:10:33 > 1:10:38headless chickens chasing their tails. They are arresting people,

1:10:38 > 1:10:44doing their job. The judicial system is the people who are letting us

1:10:44 > 1:10:50down. There are no deterrence, no mandatory sentences. Gangs are

1:10:50 > 1:10:53running riot. They are not actually gangs, they are profitable

1:10:53 > 1:10:59businesses. And unless we start putting deterrence in place to prove

1:10:59 > 1:11:04we're not playing about, we will be overrun. The army may even be called

1:11:04 > 1:11:09in, because it is getting to the stage now, you saw yourself how many

1:11:09 > 1:11:12people were killed on New Year's Eve, and that was without stabbings

1:11:12 > 1:11:20and shootings.The way you describe it, it sounds pretty apocalyptic. I

1:11:20 > 1:11:23wonder if Rachel, Sefton and Ritchie recognise the picture that Caroline

1:11:23 > 1:11:30is painting?Yes, I recognise it, but as a former gang member myself,

1:11:30 > 1:11:36no sentence or anything would change me. I've been to prison seven times.

1:11:36 > 1:11:50I've been shot at, stabbed, Ricked and bottled. -- bricked. The thing

1:11:50 > 1:11:54that change me was receiving a mental, a father figure. There was a

1:11:54 > 1:11:58statistic saying that the majority of people in prisons have absent

1:11:58 > 1:12:02fathers. Whenever is no discipline, that is when the children run riot.

1:12:02 > 1:12:08And we are talking about children. So, in terms of thinking about a

1:12:08 > 1:12:13possible jail term, it was never a consideration for you in stopping

1:12:13 > 1:12:18you from continuing your life in crime?Definitely, because there

1:12:18 > 1:12:22were root causes that needed to be dealt with. I had mental health

1:12:22 > 1:12:27issues, rejection issues.Let Caroline react. What do you say to

1:12:27 > 1:12:31Sefton?You know, unfortunately, I'm sorry you had such a bad childhood,

1:12:31 > 1:12:37but, for me, and for the majority of the public, if you've been to prison

1:12:37 > 1:12:41seven times, prison isn't working. Therefore, prison isn't the

1:12:41 > 1:12:45deterrent it should be. It shouldn't be a comfort which you don't mind

1:12:45 > 1:12:50going to. It should be hard slog, paying your dues back to society for

1:12:50 > 1:12:54the people you've attacked and people you've harm. Where are all

1:12:54 > 1:12:58these people for the victims' families?Sefton, if it had been

1:12:58 > 1:13:01harder in jail, would you have thought, I don't want to go back,

1:13:01 > 1:13:06and would you have turned things round earlier?What is harder than

1:13:06 > 1:13:11getting shot at, stabbed?Was that inside?That was outside. What is

1:13:11 > 1:13:16harder than that? When I was in prison, you couldn't really... Yeah.

1:13:16 > 1:13:21So, the lifestyle you the...That is what Caroline is saying - make

1:13:21 > 1:13:25prison harder.There was not much that is harder than what happens on

1:13:25 > 1:13:30the streets. It's not going to really affect us. We are so

1:13:30 > 1:13:34desensitised to violence and stuff like that, it's not that.I'm not

1:13:34 > 1:13:42talking violence. I'm talking a deterrent. A strict deterrent of,

1:13:42 > 1:13:48you're in prison, and not necessarily bread and water, but

1:13:48 > 1:13:57certainly not sky TV, pool tables, Jims -- gymnasiums, and things that

1:13:57 > 1:13:59people can't afford to get ordinarily. Prison at the moment is

1:13:59 > 1:14:05like a hotel, I'm sorry. We have prison guards on our board, and able

1:14:05 > 1:14:09tell us exactly the same. Prisoners rule the prisons, the same as

1:14:09 > 1:14:13children at the moment are ruling our streets. We are the adults and

1:14:13 > 1:14:23we now have to stand up and say no. Let me bring in Ritchie and Rachel.

1:14:23 > 1:14:30-- Rishi. You were defrauded of £2000 after someone hacked your

1:14:30 > 1:14:37PayPal account.

1:14:37 > 1:14:40PayPal account. Figures for computer misuse and fraud are down by 10%,

1:14:40 > 1:14:44according to the survey, but tell us what happened to you.I was on

1:14:44 > 1:14:49holiday and got a text saying that this money has come out of your

1:14:49 > 1:14:52account and it has been blocked until we figure out what has

1:14:52 > 1:14:55happened. I called up and found out that a couple of thousand pounds had

1:14:55 > 1:15:01been taken up, which is not great when you are on holiday. From there,

1:15:01 > 1:15:05thankfully I got it back pretty quickly. It happens very regularly,

1:15:05 > 1:15:12and I see it a lot with people around me as well.Obviously, that

1:15:12 > 1:15:16is because someone is hacking your account, but is it because we are

1:15:16 > 1:15:23lazy with changing passwords?I think it is. You have to change your

1:15:23 > 1:15:27passwords regularly, have strong passwords and not it makes big

1:15:27 > 1:15:36difference. -- and not one, two, three, four, five. We have seen a

1:15:36 > 1:15:40lot of cyber security start-ups come about in the last few years,

1:15:40 > 1:15:46disruptive technology being there to help secure consumers but also large

1:15:46 > 1:15:51companies, because they hold mark-up validator than ever before. -- they

1:15:51 > 1:15:56hold more of our data than ever before. That is another big area is

1:15:56 > 1:16:00where we can do our part, but also, the companies need to be able to do

1:16:00 > 1:16:08their part and make sure that the day-to-day are storing a say. -- the

1:16:08 > 1:16:19data that they are storing.

1:16:19 > 1:16:22Rachel, from Safer Spaces, we don't have a specific category

1:16:22 > 1:16:23of computer misuse offences.

1:16:23 > 1:16:26I wonder if that is all that revealing because so many victims of

1:16:26 > 1:16:31domestic abuse don't come forward anyway.It is difficult to draw

1:16:31 > 1:16:34inference from the data, the levels of domestic abuse and coercive

1:16:34 > 1:16:39control, the nature of it makes it difficult for people to disclose to

1:16:39 > 1:16:42the police or in a survey if they are in a relationship at the time,

1:16:42 > 1:16:48it's going to be difficult for them to access that survey.Do you feel

1:16:48 > 1:16:56that when it comes to crimes involving domestic abuse that people

1:16:56 > 1:16:59are more courageous, broadly speaking, to come forward, or still

1:16:59 > 1:17:06not?There is increasing confidence in public services, in the police

1:17:06 > 1:17:11response the intervention that we can protective measures, the fact we

1:17:11 > 1:17:15talk about domestic abuse enables us to help recognise what abusive

1:17:15 > 1:17:20behaviour is. But I think people still suffer in silence. The crime

1:17:20 > 1:17:25survey doesn't ask the question to people aged over the age of 59, and

1:17:25 > 1:17:31research from King's College tells us that 1.6% of those aged over 60

1:17:31 > 1:17:34are suffering in abusive relationships, either from an

1:17:34 > 1:17:39intimate partner or ex-partner or a member of their own family. Huge

1:17:39 > 1:17:43cross sections of society are being mist.What would you say to someone

1:17:43 > 1:17:47watching who believes they are in an abusive environment or relationship,

1:17:47 > 1:17:54but are worried, scared, terrified about asking for help?That there is

1:17:54 > 1:17:58support available, it's completely confidential.What should they do?

1:17:58 > 1:18:02Find out the local support services, or cool our helpline and we can

1:18:02 > 1:18:06provide details of that and then we can talk them through because there

1:18:06 > 1:18:09are a lot more options than there used to be and they will be

1:18:09 > 1:18:15believed.Sephton, let me ask you about your work and I want to ask

1:18:15 > 1:18:18Caroline about her work because she goes into schools in Essex and

1:18:18 > 1:18:25London to talk to people is about knife crime and what happened to her

1:18:25 > 1:18:29sun Jay, but in terms of your work, Sephton, what are you trying to do

1:18:29 > 1:18:35to prevent gang-related crime?I work for a company cold gangs line

1:18:35 > 1:18:37and we deliver training on understanding gangs and

1:18:37 > 1:18:41understanding the lifestyle up-and-down the country. Loss of

1:18:41 > 1:18:44things about gangs is very violent and things like that but nobody

1:18:44 > 1:18:48talks about loving the person, nobody talks about those things.

1:18:48 > 1:18:57When we see a victim we are easily feeling some sort of sympathy and

1:18:57 > 1:19:01things like that, of course, but at the same time if we don't deal with

1:19:01 > 1:19:05the problem then it's going to escalate. So we know that if we

1:19:05 > 1:19:09understand them then we will be able to get through to them.Caroline, do

1:19:09 > 1:19:18you accept that?No, not at all. You know, gang is a business, as I've

1:19:18 > 1:19:23said before. It's a multi-billion pound business. You can talk to kids

1:19:23 > 1:19:28about gangs, but unfortunately, please don't take any offence over

1:19:28 > 1:19:31this, Sephton, but we have a gang member trying to teach our children

1:19:31 > 1:19:36not to go into a gang, a gang member who has been in prison seven times,

1:19:36 > 1:19:40that now has a job and is being paid, so what is that telling our

1:19:40 > 1:19:44children? We are sending mixed messages, telling our children it is

1:19:44 > 1:19:47OK, you can be in a gang for a while but don't worry you will end up

1:19:47 > 1:19:55getting a job just like me.What would you say to that?Sorry,

1:19:55 > 1:19:59Caroline, I'm a perfect example of change, I'm on a team with

1:19:59 > 1:20:01international human rights at the Commonwealth Secretariat. I became

1:20:01 > 1:20:10an expert at NHS England. I train all government staff from probation

1:20:10 > 1:20:14to youth workers and go into police stations now. So, for me, the change

1:20:14 > 1:20:18when somebody gave me the chance, because my upbringing, I got beaten

1:20:18 > 1:20:27as a child.Yes, but... I understand that.Absolutely fantastic. I was

1:20:27 > 1:20:31eight years old and groomed into gangs, there are root causes that

1:20:31 > 1:20:35cause people to do that and we have to address that.I was a foster

1:20:35 > 1:20:39parent for 12 years to adolescent teen boys and I know exactly what

1:20:39 > 1:20:43you are talking about. I lived it and have been there. However, what

1:20:43 > 1:20:46you are talking about, and well done to you for doing what you are doing

1:20:46 > 1:20:51but what you are doing is you are talking to adults. I'm not talking

1:20:51 > 1:20:55about the adults. I'm talking about the children where we go into

1:20:55 > 1:21:01schools and we see thousands of children. We don't play about, our

1:21:01 > 1:21:05training is graphic, our training is graphic, how it happens, how they

1:21:05 > 1:21:12are groomed, how easy it is to get involved and what the consequences

1:21:12 > 1:21:16are, not just about Jay, but hundreds of other kids who are

1:21:16 > 1:21:19stamped and attacked. So you doing what you're doing is very good for

1:21:19 > 1:21:23adults but for me to be able to tell that to children, you are totally

1:21:23 > 1:21:28confusing them.We go into schools doing crime prevention as well

1:21:28 > 1:21:33up-and-down the country and also go into Liverpool.That's not setting a

1:21:33 > 1:21:40good example, is it?There is impoverished children up in

1:21:40 > 1:21:45Liverpool, white underclass, and so many different cultures that are

1:21:45 > 1:21:50dealing with exactly the same problem, and if we feel that we can

1:21:50 > 1:21:58address it through being nonviolent, dealing with it in a bad responsive

1:21:58 > 1:22:02way to bad things then it's not going to work that way, because

1:22:02 > 1:22:06fighting fire with fire doesn't work. When I go into the schools I

1:22:06 > 1:22:10tell my story of redemption and the children listen to me because I'm a

1:22:10 > 1:22:15former gang member. We change lives when we go up-and-down the country.

1:22:15 > 1:22:24Final word, Caroline.Final word from the, as I said, again it is a

1:22:24 > 1:22:27business and I'm so into our children knowing the truth and what

1:22:27 > 1:22:30can happen. It has to be told by a person that hasn't got a criminal

1:22:30 > 1:22:37record.Thank you. You are both doing work, both aiming for the same

1:22:37 > 1:22:40outcome but obviously coming at it from very different points of view

1:22:40 > 1:22:43but we appreciate your time and thank you for talking to each other

1:22:43 > 1:22:50as well.

1:22:50 > 1:22:53as well. The number of rough sleepers has reached the highest

1:22:53 > 1:22:57level since current figures began, the latest figures out this morning

1:22:57 > 1:23:01show. We will speak to three people who know what it is like to be

1:23:01 > 1:23:05homeless. Please send us your own homeless experience, as some of you

1:23:05 > 1:23:08have, I'm grateful for that and you don't have to give your name if you

1:23:08 > 1:23:09don't want to at all.

1:23:09 > 1:23:12British Tennis number two Kyle Edmund is currently playing

1:23:12 > 1:23:17playing in his first ever Grand-Slam semi-final.

1:23:17 > 1:23:20Only the sixth British man to do so in the Open era.

1:23:20 > 1:23:22He's playing against the former US open champion Marin Cilic.

1:23:22 > 1:23:27But he is battling to stay in the match as he is currently two sets

1:23:27 > 1:23:32down. The first set seemed to go by in a flash for Edmund, with Cilic

1:23:32 > 1:23:38taking it 6-2 in just 35 minutes. Edmund obviously wasn't feeling

1:23:38 > 1:23:43quite right. He then had the trainer out and after a quick discussion the

1:23:43 > 1:23:47pair headed backstage for a three-minute medical time-out. And

1:23:47 > 1:23:53then at 2-2 in the second set a bit of controversy. Cilic's serve was

1:23:53 > 1:23:59cold out and the cool came as Edmund hit it. Cilic challenged it and was

1:23:59 > 1:24:02given the point. Edmund made his feelings known, calling for the

1:24:02 > 1:24:05referee and complaining to the umpire. It didn't do him any good,

1:24:05 > 1:24:10the second set proved to be a much tighter affair eventually going to a

1:24:10 > 1:24:14tie-break. Cilic, a former grand slam winner and the more

1:24:14 > 1:24:19experienced, took it 7-4. Two sets down leaving Kyle Edmund with a

1:24:19 > 1:24:26really uphill task. A really uphill task. You know what I mean! Let's

1:24:26 > 1:24:29talk to various people about this. Martin Weston has known Kyle Edmund

1:24:29 > 1:24:35for ten years and is the current bridge -ish tennis under 14 coach,

1:24:35 > 1:24:41and David Felgate, former coach of Tim Henman. Hello, gentlemen. Jony

1:24:41 > 1:24:46Martin, how do you think he's doing? I've got it on here in front of me,

1:24:46 > 1:24:50Victoria. He is under the pump but the second set was encouraging. The

1:24:50 > 1:24:55first set, as you say, went pretty quick and was a turning point, that

1:24:55 > 1:24:59dispute over the line cool, and the level was really high in the second

1:24:59 > 1:25:05set so I think he's in the match. What do you think, David?He's

1:25:05 > 1:25:09performing well. To win a grand slam is very tough physically. We have

1:25:09 > 1:25:14seen Kyle have the injury time-out, and let's not forget he is playing a

1:25:14 > 1:25:18grand slam champion and Wimbledon finalist last year, number six in

1:25:18 > 1:25:21the world, so he's performed very well this whole tournament as

1:25:21 > 1:25:26performing well today but he's really up against it now, 2-0 down.

1:25:26 > 1:25:31Martin, as you are the current British tennis under 14 coach, how

1:25:31 > 1:25:37is the system helped Kyle Edmund progress to this level?It's a good

1:25:37 > 1:25:42question. I think having sort of been involved when Kyle was at this

1:25:42 > 1:25:46sort of age, you just mentioned under 14, one of the things we can

1:25:46 > 1:25:52learn from the past with Kyle is he was one of a crop. Historically we

1:25:52 > 1:25:54find that the players tend to develop when there is more than just

1:25:54 > 1:26:00one of them. He was in a sort of three-year span where we had junior

1:26:00 > 1:26:06grand slam winner is, orange bowl champions and him and his team were

1:26:06 > 1:26:12the junior Davis Cup champions, so that helped having a group of them

1:26:12 > 1:26:16pushing each other along. The others obviously haven't got to the heights

1:26:16 > 1:26:20he has got. Some of them have gone in different directions. But that's

1:26:20 > 1:26:24one thing. The second thing is that Kyle has had good coaching at the

1:26:24 > 1:26:31right times. When he started working with Fredrik Rosengren, now, they

1:26:31 > 1:26:34have all been British coaches, and we've got to learn from the past

1:26:34 > 1:26:38which is that we have to make sure that our best kids have the best

1:26:38 > 1:26:41coaches that are suitable for that stage of their journey.You have

1:26:41 > 1:26:46coached players to the top level, David. How big is the leap from the

1:26:46 > 1:26:51junior level to the seniors?It is huge and cannot be underestimated.

1:26:51 > 1:26:54You see it in all sports. You obviously want to do well in the

1:26:54 > 1:26:58juniors but what you've got to be doing is putting the work in place

1:26:58 > 1:27:02and your game in place that has a chance to succeed in the seniors.

1:27:02 > 1:27:06You have seen lots of people do very well with junior grand slam is and

1:27:06 > 1:27:11not go on but that doesn't mean you don't go out and try and win those

1:27:11 > 1:27:14junior grand slams. I agree with what Martin said, going back to Tim

1:27:14 > 1:27:19Henman in his era he was a group of four boys who play professionally

1:27:19 > 1:27:22and went on to different levels around the top 100. It takes the

1:27:22 > 1:27:26pressure off when you have people to work with. I think we are going

1:27:26 > 1:27:29through another period of that with some of the youngsters at the moment

1:27:29 > 1:27:33and it's great to see Aidan Hughes in the semifinals of the Australian

1:27:33 > 1:27:40Open juniors he won earlier today. It's nice, as Martin said, I think

1:27:40 > 1:27:44British coaches take a bad rap all the time. Its British coaches who

1:27:44 > 1:27:47have been there with him on his journey and mark Hilton is still

1:27:47 > 1:27:53involved with Kyle Edmund.Yeah, we spoke to him earlier.Virak coaches

1:27:53 > 1:27:57at the right time. But it's the inner desire from the player, you

1:27:57 > 1:28:02asked about systems, systems are there to help and encourage. There

1:28:02 > 1:28:05is driven players, there is always driven parents behind them and it's

1:28:05 > 1:28:10about trying to help them on their journey.That's interesting, driven

1:28:10 > 1:28:14players and driven parents, Martin. We should remember that actually for

1:28:14 > 1:28:19someone to get to the level that Kyle has reached now, at some point

1:28:19 > 1:28:23there were parents sacrificing, dedicating their lives to travelling

1:28:23 > 1:28:26around, taking them to all sorts of events, worked there?It's

1:28:26 > 1:28:32interesting you say that, Kyle is a family Guy and he's very close with

1:28:32 > 1:28:40his parents. Stephen, his father, was there every step of the way and

1:28:40 > 1:28:43as was Denise. Stephen has been kind enough to come in and speak to the

1:28:43 > 1:28:46parents of our up and coming young players on a number of occasions at

1:28:46 > 1:28:51our national camps because he is a fantastic role model on how to make

1:28:51 > 1:28:56the right decisions at the right time, but also, as David said, he

1:28:56 > 1:29:03empowered Kyle throughout the journey to lead it, to be at the

1:29:03 > 1:29:08front of this project that he's been involved in. Kyle, as a consequence,

1:29:08 > 1:29:13has always been a highly applied, highly self-motivated, driven young

1:29:13 > 1:29:19man and that's why he's up on the TV screen in front of me now. Good

1:29:19 > 1:29:23parenting was definitely instrumental in that.David, if he

1:29:23 > 1:29:27doesn't get through to the final command it's early, I know that, if

1:29:27 > 1:29:33he doesn't, though, what kind of support, what kind of advice would

1:29:33 > 1:29:39you give to somebody like him? He will be so disappointed.Of course

1:29:39 > 1:29:44he will. He is living the dream and wants to win grand slams, that's

1:29:44 > 1:29:48what every player does. Before this I commentated on one of his matches,

1:29:48 > 1:29:52I was in Australia last week, and people say it might be time for file

1:29:52 > 1:29:57to make the quarterfinal of a grand slam, he's good enough. He's done

1:29:57 > 1:30:02that and surpassed it -- time for Kyle. Next time it can be your first

1:30:02 > 1:30:07final. Reading some of the things that have been written in the last

1:30:07 > 1:30:11few days you would think Kyle has suddenly appeared. Within the sport

1:30:11 > 1:30:14we know him and have followed him and it's been a long journey, he's

1:30:14 > 1:30:18been in the top 100 for the last two years, is working his way up, he's

1:30:18 > 1:30:2323 years of age, there is no reason to make comparisons. He will be

1:30:23 > 1:30:27disappointed not to turn this around but use it, the 26 in the world,

1:30:27 > 1:30:35meaning he is seeded in the other grand slams moving forward and keep

1:30:35 > 1:30:38working on his game. I love the way he is showing more emotion, he seems

1:30:38 > 1:30:41to have it in check and that forehand, he is using it so well now

1:30:41 > 1:30:44so he has everything to look forward to if he can't turn it around today.

1:30:44 > 1:30:47Thank you, both of you, we appreciated, David Felgate, former

1:30:47 > 1:30:50coach of Tim Henman and Martin Weston, thank you, who has known

1:30:50 > 1:30:53Kyle Edmund for ten years and is the current British tennis under 14

1:30:53 > 1:31:00coach.

1:31:00 > 1:31:06We have some live pictures of the Swiss

1:31:08 > 1:31:12Swiss resort of Davos. Donald Trump arriving, the first US president to

1:31:12 > 1:31:18do so since Bill Clinton 18 years ago.Obviously, he is going to meet

1:31:18 > 1:31:24Theresa May a little later. We will be live in Davos in the next 30

1:31:24 > 1:31:31minutes. Time for the latest news now.

1:31:31 > 1:31:33The Education Minister Nadhim Zahawi has been reprimanded

1:31:33 > 1:31:35by number 10 for attending the men-only charity dinner.

1:31:35 > 1:31:37Mr Zahawi attended The Presidents Club's function

1:31:37 > 1:31:39at the Dorchester Hotel, where women employed as hostesses

1:31:39 > 1:31:41say they were groped.

1:31:41 > 1:31:42The minister said he felt uncomfortable

1:31:42 > 1:31:44and left the event early.

1:31:44 > 1:31:46The Charity commission says it is investigating the allegations

1:31:46 > 1:31:49as a matter of urgency.

1:31:50 > 1:31:53The latest crime figures for England and Wales shows crimes recorded

1:31:53 > 1:31:58by police increased by 14% in the year to September 2017.

1:31:58 > 1:32:01Violent crime was up 20% and there were also increases

1:32:01 > 1:32:08in robbery and sexual offences.

1:32:08 > 1:32:10The separate Crime Survey - based on interviews

1:32:10 > 1:32:13with 35,000 households - suggests that crime is not a common

1:32:13 > 1:32:19experience for most people.

1:32:19 > 1:32:22Theresa May will use a speech at the World Economic Forum

1:32:22 > 1:32:24in Switzerland to put more pressure on technology companies

1:32:24 > 1:32:32like Facebook and Twitter to tackle extremist material online.

1:32:32 > 1:32:35She'll be speaking in Davos just hours before she meets US

1:32:35 > 1:32:38President Donald Trump, their first meeting since

1:32:38 > 1:32:40she criticised him for sharing racist videos tweeted

1:32:40 > 1:32:44by the far-right group, Britain First.

1:32:44 > 1:32:47The US President, Donald Trump, says he's 'looking forward'

1:32:47 > 1:32:48to being interviewed by Robert Mueller -

1:32:48 > 1:32:50the FBI's special counsel investigating allegations of Russian

1:32:50 > 1:32:52interference in the US elections.

1:32:52 > 1:32:54In a heated exchange, the president told reporters

1:32:54 > 1:32:57he would give testimony under oath, and said he expected to be

1:32:57 > 1:33:05questioned by Mr Mueller within two to three weeks.

1:33:05 > 1:33:07REPORTER: Would you do it under oath, Mr President.

1:33:07 > 1:33:08You mean like Hillary did?

1:33:08 > 1:33:09Who said that?

1:33:09 > 1:33:11I said that, would you do it under oath?

1:33:11 > 1:33:12Oh, you said it.

1:33:12 > 1:33:13You say a lot.

1:33:13 > 1:33:15Did Hillary do it under oath?

1:33:15 > 1:33:16I think you have an idea.

1:33:16 > 1:33:18Wait, you don't have an idea?

1:33:18 > 1:33:21You really don't have an idea?

1:33:21 > 1:33:22I really don't remember.

1:33:22 > 1:33:25I'll give you an idea - she didn't do it under oath.

1:33:25 > 1:33:26You won't?

1:33:26 > 1:33:34I would do it and you know she didn't do it under oath.

1:33:34 > 1:33:36At least two people have died and several others injured

1:33:36 > 1:33:38after a train derailed near the city of Milan.

1:33:38 > 1:33:40The regional train was travelling towards Milan's Porta Garibaldi

1:33:40 > 1:33:43station and derailed around the town of Segrate.

1:33:43 > 1:33:47There are reports that emergency services are still trying to rescue

1:33:47 > 1:33:52people trapped inside.

1:33:52 > 1:33:54The number of rough sleepers has reached the highest level since

1:33:54 > 1:33:56records began.

1:33:56 > 1:33:58There were 4751 people sleeping rough in 2017.

1:33:58 > 1:34:06Data suggests that the number has risen

1:34:08 > 1:34:16by 128% since 2010.

1:34:16 > 1:34:23--by 168% since 2010.

1:34:23 > 1:34:31Here's some sport now with Kat Downes.

1:34:31 > 1:34:35Kyle Edmund is two sets down against Marin Cilic. The second set was much

1:34:35 > 1:34:40tighter, on a tie-break, and there is already a -- he is already a

1:34:40 > 1:34:44breakdown in the third. We will keep you updated throughout the morning.

1:34:44 > 1:34:48Simona Halep fought a real battle against Angelique Kerber, but the

1:34:48 > 1:34:51world number one came through and will face Caroline Wozniacki in the

1:34:51 > 1:34:56final. New England women's boss Phil

1:34:56 > 1:35:01Neville will not face charges despite tweets in 2011-12 that were

1:35:01 > 1:35:09disparaging to women. Back to you.

1:35:09 > 1:35:13Some interesting e-mails from you about our conversation to do with

1:35:13 > 1:35:19tackling crime after the crime figures out today. June says: Well

1:35:19 > 1:35:22done for presenting a balanced interview around knife crime. The

1:35:22 > 1:35:25young guy who had been in prison and has turned his life around should be

1:35:25 > 1:35:35applauded. His message of jail is a massive message for young people.

1:35:35 > 1:35:41Another viewer says: I thought she unfairly wounded this transformed

1:35:41 > 1:35:46young man. Your programme is about all views and we have to learn to

1:35:46 > 1:35:55disagree.

1:36:02 > 1:36:06Clive says: Your guest who called for harsher prison conditions should

1:36:06 > 1:36:10spend some time in one. The real reason prison doesn't work on gang

1:36:10 > 1:36:17members is because their lives are already so fearful and hopeless,

1:36:17 > 1:36:20prison alone offers no change. Thank you for those and keep them coming

1:36:20 > 1:36:28in. School league tables released in the last few moments show that one

1:36:28 > 1:36:30in eight schools in England are below the standard deemed acceptable

1:36:30 > 1:36:41by the Government. Elaine Dunkley is here. Tell us about the changes and

1:36:41 > 1:36:44then the figures.League tables are hugely important for parents

1:36:44 > 1:36:48deciding on where to send their children for secondary school. In

1:36:48 > 1:36:51the past, these tables have been compiled by looking at the

1:36:51 > 1:37:01percentage of pupils getting five GCS Es --

1:37:01 > 1:37:04GCS Es -- GCSEs but that has changed. It was felt the system

1:37:04 > 1:37:10didn't take into account disadvantaged children and those who

1:37:10 > 1:37:14make slower progress. We have other attainment measures which look at

1:37:14 > 1:37:16how children from different backgrounds are doing in terms of

1:37:16 > 1:37:20making progress. The attainment eight takes an average of every

1:37:20 > 1:37:26pupil in year 11 in terms of how well they did. Grades are now

1:37:26 > 1:37:32numbered. They have taken an average to see how all the children are

1:37:32 > 1:37:38doing. Progress eight is the one parents would look at to see how

1:37:38 > 1:37:44much a child has developed. It looks at their ersatz when they first

1:37:44 > 1:37:46started and there are expected attainment versus what they actually

1:37:46 > 1:37:56got. This is a range of different measures.Of what the schools say

1:37:56 > 1:38:04about these grades?It is interesting

1:38:06 > 1:38:09interesting because the were over 800 schools were deemed

1:38:09 > 1:38:16unacceptable, but with the new measure, it is 385.

1:38:19 > 1:38:21measure, it is 385. Some experts think the goalposts have been

1:38:21 > 1:38:27shifted, the measurement system is overly complicated. The Department

1:38:27 > 1:38:31of Education has said that it shows that the gap between disadvantaged

1:38:31 > 1:38:40pupils and their peers has narrowed. Thank you for your e-mails and

1:38:40 > 1:38:46messages about being homeless. This from Leon: I was homeless in

1:38:46 > 1:38:49Manchester for a year. I started off sitting in the coach station all

1:38:49 > 1:38:54night until I was noticed for not having a ticket. I have slept in

1:38:54 > 1:38:58Piccadilly toilets. The toilets are full at night. You rock the door and

1:38:58 > 1:39:01the police come every hour to try and get you out. Me and my

1:39:01 > 1:39:05girlfriend moved to the streets. People would try to get my

1:39:05 > 1:39:08girlfriend into prostitution but I stop that. She eventually broke

1:39:08 > 1:39:12down. The council wouldn't help at all. I was then on the streets

1:39:12 > 1:39:15alone. I nearly jumped off a bridge into the icy canal, but a passer-by

1:39:15 > 1:39:25stopped me. Leon, thank you so much for telling us about that. Let us

1:39:25 > 1:39:28know how you are doing now if you have time before the end of the

1:39:28 > 1:39:31programme and we can tell the audience. This from someone who

1:39:31 > 1:39:36wanted to stay anonymous: I was homeless for several months. My army

1:39:36 > 1:39:40term observers was completed and I was told to just report the labour

1:39:40 > 1:39:43exchange. When I reported there I was told, you are considered to have

1:39:43 > 1:39:49left your previous job so we cannot help you for at least six weeks. A

1:39:49 > 1:39:52record number are sleeping rough in England, that's the reason I have

1:39:52 > 1:39:56been asking for your experiences this morning. We have the latest

1:39:56 > 1:40:00official figures and they estimate that around 4700 people were

1:40:00 > 1:40:05sleeping in the streets in the autumn of 2017. Those figures also

1:40:05 > 1:40:13suggest that is an increase of 168% since 2010. I want to talk now to

1:40:13 > 1:40:20three people who also now what it is like to be homeless.

1:40:20 > 1:40:22Callum Curry slept rough on and off for six years.

1:40:22 > 1:40:25Jon Glackin - founder of Streets Kitchen which provides

1:40:25 > 1:40:26soup kitchens and support to the homeless.

1:40:26 > 1:40:29And Ashleigh O'Connell, who was homeless for a year after

1:40:29 > 1:40:30escaping an abusive relationship.

1:40:30 > 1:40:33And in Stoke is Jeremy Pert, who is the Community Cabinet Support

1:40:33 > 1:40:39Member for Stafford Borough Council.

1:40:40 > 1:40:46Thank you for coming on the programme. Bright, I mean, you have

1:40:46 > 1:40:52similar experiences -- right, I mean, you have similar experiences

1:40:52 > 1:40:54but there were different circumstances behind why you were

1:40:54 > 1:40:58homeless. Callan, you slept rough on an offer about six years. Describe

1:40:58 > 1:41:09what that was like.Quite painful. Isolated, lonely, and I wasn't

1:41:09 > 1:41:14homeless for long periods of time. I was rebounding. I would get some

1:41:14 > 1:41:18were sorted and then end up back in the street again. I didn't have long

1:41:18 > 1:41:24periods of being consistently homeless, but over six years, it was

1:41:24 > 1:41:32bad.Why did it happen?I think each person's problem is individual. I

1:41:32 > 1:41:38have substance misuse issues that I have been dealing with.How are you

1:41:38 > 1:41:43doing with that?Good. I have been housed for two years now. Life is a

1:41:43 > 1:41:51lot different to what it was.Shore. What about yourself, Ashley?I found

1:41:51 > 1:41:58myself homeless after re-skating -- after escaping domestic violence. I

1:41:58 > 1:42:02approached the council for help and they told me that I wasn't high risk

1:42:02 > 1:42:08enough, and my best option was to kick my ex-husband out of the house,

1:42:08 > 1:42:15so I returned back to domestic violence and the only way I could

1:42:15 > 1:42:19see out that the time was to find a job, which I did, and I was working

1:42:19 > 1:42:25as an ambulance driver at night, which was great because it kept me

1:42:25 > 1:42:32away from my now ex-husband. I was attending college during the day

1:42:32 > 1:42:35because I felt the only way to change my life was to get an

1:42:35 > 1:42:38education and empower myself so that I could get a job and stand on my

1:42:38 > 1:42:45own two feet. Sadly, when my son passed away, the violence escalated

1:42:45 > 1:42:51massively, and the police got involved. Then I was taken more

1:42:51 > 1:42:56seriously, but I believe if there was some intervention a few years

1:42:56 > 1:43:02before, when I initially approached the council, directing me even to a

1:43:02 > 1:43:06charity for women to talk to, I believe my circumstances would have

1:43:06 > 1:43:10been a lot different.What about you, John? You have been homeless

1:43:10 > 1:43:22for periods.It came through being sanctioned.

1:43:22 > 1:43:26sanctioned. We are out on the streets every night, talking to

1:43:26 > 1:43:31homeless people. The question is, why are people homeless? There are

1:43:31 > 1:43:35thousands of reasons.

1:43:35 > 1:43:38thousands of reasons. Then people can feel sympathy for some of it,

1:43:38 > 1:43:44because there is a demonisation of homeless people, that they are dirty

1:43:44 > 1:43:55and untouchable.Not by everybody. Not by everybody, no.

1:43:55 > 1:43:59Not by everybody, no. Three people have been through similar

1:43:59 > 1:44:02experiences, so we want to discuss this further. Everybody has a

1:44:02 > 1:44:08different story and a different path to follow. We can help and tailor it

1:44:08 > 1:44:12for individuals. We don't do that at the moment. We look at it as

1:44:12 > 1:44:17generic, they are just homeless.If I bring in Jeremy from Stafford

1:44:17 > 1:44:21Council, how do you react to these figures today? Around 4700 people

1:44:21 > 1:44:32were rough sleeping in England last year.We were talking before

1:44:32 > 1:44:35year.We were talking before about how John said hundred and 30 people

1:44:35 > 1:44:39in Camden.Which is just one borough in London. And you don't think the

1:44:39 > 1:44:44figures represent the reality?No, I would sleep in my car just do not go

1:44:44 > 1:44:49home. When I was going through the homeless process, I met a lot of

1:44:49 > 1:44:53people, men and women, in a similar situation, who didn't go to the

1:44:53 > 1:44:56council because they said that they wouldn't help them, there was no

1:44:56 > 1:45:00point. So, obviously, they are not represented in any statistics of

1:45:00 > 1:45:06figures. I don't think I probably was on any stats, because I was

1:45:06 > 1:45:14sleeping in a car. I was sleeping on friends' so thes. I think the

1:45:14 > 1:45:18figures are probably a lot more inflated than what they are.This

1:45:18 > 1:45:20e-mail from Michael

1:45:20 > 1:45:28We have an e-mail from Michael,: I have a problem with substances and

1:45:28 > 1:45:32alcohol and lost everything, my home, my family and myself. I

1:45:32 > 1:45:36thought my life was over, I can't tell you how painful it was to find

1:45:36 > 1:45:40myself in such a dark place. I accepted help from a total stranger,

1:45:40 > 1:45:45and at that point I was ready to end the own suffering. That was a long

1:45:45 > 1:45:50time ago, but because people showed me compassion I am now a very

1:45:50 > 1:45:53productive person in the community and I raise thousands of pounds for

1:45:53 > 1:46:00people less fortunate than myself. Which is your point, John, that we

1:46:00 > 1:46:04have to treat people with compassion.We have two. Everybody

1:46:04 > 1:46:12has the potential to change. Most of the crew we work with, we are

1:46:12 > 1:46:15grassroots, not a charity, most of them have been homeless and know

1:46:15 > 1:46:22what it is like. We have a businesswoman in 2017 in our

1:46:22 > 1:46:28presence here. Her circumstance has created that. It could happen to

1:46:28 > 1:46:33anybody, we're just a pay cheque or two away, a relationship breakdown,

1:46:33 > 1:46:37it could be anything, a child that passed away, abusive relationship

1:46:37 > 1:46:41that you have to escape from. As a society we should have a support

1:46:41 > 1:46:45network in place to support these people and we can do this, we know

1:46:45 > 1:46:50we can.They have done it in Staffordshire. Lemmy bring in Jeremy

1:46:50 > 1:46:56Pert. These figures show that your council has seen a fall in rough

1:46:56 > 1:47:00sleepers. -- let me bring in. How has that happened and what have you

1:47:00 > 1:47:04done?We have seen a reduction in rough sleepers by 50% and what we

1:47:04 > 1:47:08have done is a number of things. There has not been one single

1:47:08 > 1:47:12activity that we have done because everybody is different. But I think

1:47:12 > 1:47:18what we would say very clearly is that one rough sleeper is one too

1:47:18 > 1:47:24many. And as a result of what we have done is we have employed, for

1:47:24 > 1:47:28example, a committee matron who is the angel of Stafford who works on

1:47:28 > 1:47:32the street with homeless people and rough sleepers at the far end of

1:47:32 > 1:47:37homelessness, and she engages with rough sleepers with a view of trying

1:47:37 > 1:47:40to get them to accept opportunities for accommodation and getting them

1:47:40 > 1:47:47off the streets. We have also done a pilot on housing first and housing

1:47:47 > 1:47:51first is about exactly what it says, it's about getting people into

1:47:51 > 1:47:55housing first and providing the wraparound services and support to

1:47:55 > 1:47:59ensure those people can stay within their houses for the long-term, so

1:47:59 > 1:48:03that they have a sustainable housing solution. Equally, in going into the

1:48:03 > 1:48:08house in the first place those rough sleepers know that that is their

1:48:08 > 1:48:11house for the long-term and as a result there is no issue about it

1:48:11 > 1:48:15only being a short-term tenancy and that actually by providing the

1:48:15 > 1:48:21support we can get to success rate of between 70-80% of those people

1:48:21 > 1:48:25keeping those homes. We also do a lot of on prevention. If we can

1:48:25 > 1:48:29prevent people from being homeless in the first place then that has to

1:48:29 > 1:48:32be preferable than dealing with people who are sleeping rough

1:48:32 > 1:48:36because within two weeks, as you other contributors have talked

1:48:36 > 1:48:41about, within two weeks it doesn't take long for people to start having

1:48:41 > 1:48:45significant mental health issues and some significant health issues in

1:48:45 > 1:48:49terms of dependencies.Before you go, Jeremy, explain why it was

1:48:49 > 1:48:55important for your council to spend money to help rough sleepers.We

1:48:55 > 1:49:00realised we had a problem, we realised we had got an explosion

1:49:00 > 1:49:04during 2015-16 of rough sleepers and wanted to do something about it. The

1:49:04 > 1:49:08way we thought was the right way of doing work was understanding why

1:49:08 > 1:49:11people were sleeping rough in the first place and then providing the

1:49:11 > 1:49:17support to take them off the streets and then put them into long-term

1:49:17 > 1:49:20sustainable accommodation. In Stafford we are completely unlike

1:49:20 > 1:49:24the national picture in terms of housing. We are building plenty of

1:49:24 > 1:49:28houses, we build twice as many houses as we planned to last year

1:49:28 > 1:49:32including housing of all types, including affordable homes, and as a

1:49:32 > 1:49:36result of what we can do is we can put all of those people into

1:49:36 > 1:49:39accommodation tonight, but actually they would probably fall out of the

1:49:39 > 1:49:44accommodation within a week or two, and as a result without the support,

1:49:44 > 1:49:47intensive one-to-one support of something like a housing first

1:49:47 > 1:49:55programme there is no way

1:49:55 > 1:49:57programme there is no way we'd be able to keep those people in

1:49:57 > 1:49:58accommodation, so it was about providing individual tailored

1:49:58 > 1:50:00support to people but also making sure we support people on the

1:50:00 > 1:50:03streets.Thank you very much, understood, it can be done if you

1:50:03 > 1:50:06want to do it. Jeremy Pert from Stafford Borough council, thank you,

1:50:06 > 1:50:11Ashleigh O'Connell, thank you, Jon Glackin, founder of Streets Kitchen,

1:50:11 > 1:50:15thank you, and Callum Curry, thank you.

1:50:15 > 1:50:19Theresa May is in Favos for the World Economic Forum,

1:50:19 > 1:50:24where the global elite gather every year.

1:50:24 > 1:50:28It is a heck of a juxtaposition with our last conversation, this, isn't

1:50:28 > 1:50:29it?

1:50:29 > 1:50:32She'll use her speech to put more pressure on technology companies

1:50:32 > 1:50:34like Facebook and Twitter to weed out extremist

1:50:34 > 1:50:37material online.

1:50:37 > 1:50:40She will promise to put Britain at the forefront of artificial

1:50:40 > 1:50:44intelligence. Will talk more about that in a moment. President Trump

1:50:44 > 1:50:50just arrived in Davos on marine one, his presidential helicopter and will

1:50:50 > 1:50:55meet Theresa May for the first time since she criticised him for

1:50:55 > 1:51:02retweeting videos posted by the far right group Britain First. As for

1:51:02 > 1:51:05Davos, though, what do we need to know about the meeting of business

1:51:05 > 1:51:10leaders and heads of state in the Swiss Alps? I've been taking a look.

1:51:10 > 1:51:12Every year the Swiss mountain village of Davos hosts the rich,

1:51:12 > 1:51:16powerful and famous at the World Economic Forum.

1:51:16 > 1:51:173,000 people turn up, including more than 70

1:51:17 > 1:51:21world leaders.

1:51:21 > 1:51:23Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, French President

1:51:23 > 1:51:25Emmanuel Macron, new Zimbabwean President Emerson Mnangagwa,

1:51:25 > 1:51:33Theresa May will all be in attendance.

1:51:34 > 1:51:39But perhaps the most anticipated is Donald Trump - the

1:51:39 > 1:51:41first sitting US President to go there in two decades.

1:51:41 > 1:51:43The world's largest companies, charities trade

1:51:43 > 1:51:45The world's largest companies, charities, trade

1:51:45 > 1:51:49unions and organisations like the UN and Bank of England will be there

1:51:49 > 1:51:51too, alongside leading names in science and the arts.

1:51:51 > 1:51:54What happens there?

1:51:54 > 1:51:55Lots of networks, speeches and meetings.

1:51:55 > 1:51:56Some behind closed doors.

1:51:56 > 1:51:59This year's theme is "creating a shared future in a

1:51:59 > 1:52:04fractured world."

1:52:04 > 1:52:07Expect sexual harassment and gender inequality to feature.

1:52:07 > 1:52:09The impact of advances in technology and

1:52:09 > 1:52:10globalisation will also be prominent.

1:52:10 > 1:52:13What should we look out for?

1:52:13 > 1:52:15Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, has already made

1:52:15 > 1:52:21headlines talking about the need to tackle inequality.

1:52:21 > 1:52:28I'm talking about hiring, promoting and retaining more women.

1:52:28 > 1:52:31And there are two key events to come - Theresa May is due to meet

1:52:31 > 1:52:35Donald Trump for the first time since the US President cancelled his

1:52:35 > 1:52:36visit here to the UK.

1:52:36 > 1:52:38Then on Friday, Mr Trump will deliver a

1:52:38 > 1:52:41much-anticipated speech about why he believes it is time

1:52:41 > 1:52:49to invest in the USA.

1:52:49 > 1:52:53As I mentioned in the introduction there is also a strong focus on

1:52:53 > 1:52:59artificial intelligence, or AI, at this year's Forum.

1:52:59 > 1:53:01It's something Theresa May is expected to speak about.

1:53:01 > 1:53:04She'll talk about seeking "safe and ethical" artificial intelligence.

1:53:04 > 1:53:06A small device on your coffee table which gives you the weather

1:53:06 > 1:53:09or plays your favourite piece of music when you ask for it

1:53:09 > 1:53:11seems pretty harmless.

1:53:11 > 1:53:13Is AI something we should be worried about?

1:53:13 > 1:53:15In a moment, I'll be speaking to Maxine Mackintosh

1:53:15 > 1:53:17who is an expert in AI in health care.

1:53:17 > 1:53:23But first, from Davos, our business editor, Simon Jack.

1:53:23 > 1:53:29I want you to tell our audience what Davos is like, who is there, where

1:53:29 > 1:53:32do they meet, how much champagne very Quow and what the heck is going

1:53:32 > 1:53:36on?Security is pretty tight, you have to scan your bag every morning

1:53:36 > 1:53:40when you come in and have your badge on for all times, which I've taken

1:53:40 > 1:53:44off for the purpose of talking to you. Once you are inside the bubble

1:53:44 > 1:53:48it is a heady mix of the rich and powerful. I came here a few years

1:53:48 > 1:53:54ago when I was

1:53:54 > 1:53:57ago when I was getting Swiss francs out of a hole in the wall and I

1:53:57 > 1:53:59turned around and Bill Clinton was behind me, he was ex-president, not

1:53:59 > 1:54:01President at the time. Bill Gates almost knock me over as he slipped.

1:54:01 > 1:54:04They give you a special grippy things for your shoes, people

1:54:04 > 1:54:06arriving the coats and take them off and look as if they are having

1:54:06 > 1:54:10another day in the office in the convention centre. All walks of

1:54:10 > 1:54:14life, people dressed as Tibetan monks, people looking like the Dalai

1:54:14 > 1:54:18Lama, it wasn't the Dalai Lama, I checked but it could have been, is

1:54:18 > 1:54:22that type place. I spoke to Stella McCartney, Demel McCarthy, the NGOs

1:54:22 > 1:54:28have a big day out here, they know this is their opportunity to get

1:54:28 > 1:54:33face time with the people that can make a difference -- Dame Ellen

1:54:33 > 1:54:38MacArthur it's like shooting fish in a barrel if you want to talk to the

1:54:38 > 1:54:43rich and powerful. The problem is however important you are there is

1:54:43 > 1:54:46always somebody more important around the corner and you can see

1:54:46 > 1:54:49some senior CEOs and wondering if they are in the right party, in the

1:54:49 > 1:54:54right meeting or is something more important going on. There is anxiety

1:54:54 > 1:54:59about the hierarchical thing. They are used to being loud and scraped

1:54:59 > 1:55:02to in their offices but it doesn't apply here, it is a great leveller,

1:55:02 > 1:55:12let me put it that way.But Fomo still affects those rich elites.

1:55:12 > 1:55:16What is Theresa May going to be doing?Theresa May will use this

1:55:16 > 1:55:19speech as an opportunity to ask big investors to put pressure on some of

1:55:19 > 1:55:23the big tech companies to do a better job at taking some harmful or

1:55:23 > 1:55:26inappropriate content of the Internet. She will refer back to the

1:55:26 > 1:55:30speech she made at the United Nations saying ideally the minute

1:55:30 > 1:55:32something goes up it should be down within two hours after it's been

1:55:32 > 1:55:38identified. She will say through AI, which you will be talking about,

1:55:38 > 1:55:42this should happen automatically. Machines are getting very good at

1:55:42 > 1:55:45recognising speech patterns, of what kind of messages are being sent,

1:55:45 > 1:55:49saying using that technology to make the Internet a safer place is what

1:55:49 > 1:55:52she will say and she will say Britain is committed to trying to be

1:55:52 > 1:55:56a leader in that field. This is all about drumming up business for your

1:55:56 > 1:55:59own country when coming to Davos. That's what she will say. Important

1:55:59 > 1:56:05as those issues are, it will not be the focus today because the eagle

1:56:05 > 1:56:09has landed, Donald Trump as we saw in those pictures of him getting off

1:56:09 > 1:56:13here, people feverishly waiting for his appearance. Theresa May after

1:56:13 > 1:56:17she has spoken, will have a sideline meeting with Donald Trump, and the

1:56:17 > 1:56:20big question there will be how special is the old special

1:56:20 > 1:56:24relationship? Ever since she was the first leader to go to the White

1:56:24 > 1:56:27House, and we saw that famous picture of them holding hands, the

1:56:27 > 1:56:31relationship has been a bit dysfunctional in the 12 months since

1:56:31 > 1:56:34then, they publicly clashed on Twitter about his tweeting of far

1:56:34 > 1:56:39right material from Britain First. There was an invitation extended and

1:56:39 > 1:56:43then he never arrived because he didn't want to open the US embassy.

1:56:43 > 1:56:47How special is the relationship and can they patch it up? Guess what,

1:56:47 > 1:56:52Emmanuel Macron is emerging as the US's favourite European leader. The

1:56:52 > 1:56:56old question of who do I call when I want to call Europe? Is it Theresa

1:56:56 > 1:57:03May? We are not sure.Thank you, Simon. Maxine, what is AI and how do

1:57:03 > 1:57:08we interact with it? There are a lot of different definitions of AI.It

1:57:08 > 1:57:12is the ability of the machine to replicate and mimic human

1:57:12 > 1:57:16intelligence, known as general AI. Loss of the AI we see in our

1:57:16 > 1:57:19database specific or a narrow AI, the ability for a machine or

1:57:19 > 1:57:24algorithm to do a specific task, so it could be when on our son,

1:57:24 > 1:57:29predicting what you are next buying, when you are on Facebook and tax

1:57:29 > 1:57:32somebody's face automatically, or it could be on the Snapchat and you

1:57:32 > 1:57:36have different filters and it superimposes that. There are a lot

1:57:36 > 1:57:40of different ways AI can be applied. Instinctively I feel like I want to

1:57:40 > 1:57:43worry about that, machines being cleverer than us. Should I not

1:57:43 > 1:57:48worry?Humans are not intelligent at lots of different things and human

1:57:48 > 1:57:51intelligence has lots of different facets, emotional intelligence,

1:57:51 > 1:57:56academic intelligence and AI is good at some things and not at others.

1:57:56 > 1:58:01Humans are not very good at boring administrative tasks, or complex