06/02/2018

0:00:12 > 0:00:14Hello. It's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock,

0:00:14 > 0:00:22I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

0:00:26 > 0:00:31Campaigners say it will be a fitting tribute. We talk to an MP that say

0:00:31 > 0:00:35women have a duty to vote, to meet a reality TV star that says she has

0:00:35 > 0:00:38never voted in an election.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40If Donald Trump can be president, anything is possible.

0:00:40 > 0:00:43Christ, that's true. It's ghastly, isn't it.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45So Olivia off Love Island has a chance.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47Watch that full report at 9:15.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50Also on the programme, a judge will rule later today

0:00:50 > 0:00:52on a request by the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange,

0:00:52 > 0:00:55to drop a warrant for his arrest.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57He's been living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for more

0:00:57 > 0:01:00than five years to avoid deportation to Sweden.

0:01:00 > 0:01:03I've been detained now without charge in this country,

0:01:03 > 0:01:08the United Kingdom, for five and a half years.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10That's five and a half years I've had great difficulty seeing my

0:01:10 > 0:01:18family, and seeing my children.

0:01:19 > 0:01:24We'll hear from a Julian Assange supporter and critic before 10am.

0:01:24 > 0:01:28And a court in Liverpool has been told there's been a further decline

0:01:28 > 0:01:31in the condition of Alfie Evans, the baby at the centre

0:01:31 > 0:01:33of a legal battle about the withdrawal of life support.

0:01:33 > 0:01:41We'll speak to his father who's fighting against the decision.

0:01:45 > 0:01:46Hello.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51Throughout the morning, the latest breaking news

0:01:51 > 0:01:53and developing stories.

0:01:53 > 0:01:57A little later in the programme, we'll hear from Katie Price.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59She's talking to MPs today to try and make online

0:01:59 > 0:02:03abuse a specific crime.

0:02:03 > 0:02:09As you'll know, her son Harvey has been subject to some really horrible

0:02:09 > 0:02:11abuse through most of his life.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13And we'll hear from Lauri Love the alleged computer hacker accused

0:02:13 > 0:02:15of stealing info from US government computer systems.

0:02:15 > 0:02:22He's won his legal battle against extradition to America.

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0:02:30 > 0:02:33Plus, can I saw a very big thank you to the Royal Television Society

0:02:33 > 0:02:36judges who have nominated us for five journalism awards -

0:02:36 > 0:02:39best programme, best news coverage, best presenter, best interview

0:02:39 > 0:02:43and best young talent for our reporter Ashley John Baptiste.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47The competition is really tough, so don't hold your breath...

0:02:47 > 0:02:48Our top story today.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51The value of some of the world's biggest companies have fallen

0:02:51 > 0:02:53as global stock markets take a tumble.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55The US stock market index the Dow Jones has fallen

0:02:55 > 0:02:57by over 1000 points - that's its biggest

0:02:57 > 0:03:01one-day fall in history.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04This morning, the FTSE 100 has crashed by more than 230 points -

0:03:04 > 0:03:09its lowest level since late 2016.

0:03:09 > 0:03:10Our North America business correspondent

0:03:10 > 0:03:15Yogita Limaye has more.

0:03:15 > 0:03:18This trading floor saw its worst day since the financial crisis.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20After months of hitting record highs, US stocks went into freefall.

0:03:20 > 0:03:26The trigger - wage growth has been faster than expected,

0:03:26 > 0:03:29sparking fears that there could be a rise in interest rates.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31Certainly not what this man would have wanted

0:03:31 > 0:03:34on his first day in office.

0:03:34 > 0:03:40Jerome Powell took over as the chair of the American central bank,

0:03:40 > 0:03:43the body that makes decisions about interest rates.

0:03:43 > 0:03:48And it was bad news for this man, too.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51President Trump has repeatedly taken credit for the massive gains made

0:03:51 > 0:03:54by financial markets in the past year.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56But addressing factory workers in Ohio as stocks plunged,

0:03:56 > 0:04:00this was one record he chose not to speak about.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02The White House has said the president is focused

0:04:02 > 0:04:10on long-term fundamentals, which remain exceptionally strong.

0:04:10 > 0:04:13And many on Wall Street say there's no need for alarm just yet.

0:04:13 > 0:04:15People are taking profits after an historic climb,

0:04:15 > 0:04:20it's very quiet in there, very orderly, no panic.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22So I honestly don't think there's much to panic about.

0:04:22 > 0:04:26That could spell relief for people in the US and around the world.

0:04:26 > 0:04:31But with a slide like this, it's hard to predict when it might end.

0:04:31 > 0:04:36Yogita Limaye, BBC News, New York.

0:04:36 > 0:04:41Simon Jack is here. Is this a crash or a correction?A correction is

0:04:41 > 0:04:47when it goes down 10% from its peak. To remind everyone, the stock market

0:04:47 > 0:04:53has been on a hell of a tear over the last few years. Once in a while,

0:04:53 > 0:04:57some people think it is healthy to take a bit of air out of the tyres,

0:04:57 > 0:05:01some people take profits, it comes back to a sustainable level. At the

0:05:01 > 0:05:05moment, this is a correction, not a crash. The reason for that is the

0:05:05 > 0:05:10global economy is strong. It is rare to get a full-blown crash like the

0:05:10 > 0:05:171987 Black Monday, when you have the underlining fundamentals. People

0:05:17 > 0:05:22have savings there, if you have a pension, you have these shares which

0:05:22 > 0:05:26have fallen sharply, so you will take a small hit on this. Usually on

0:05:26 > 0:05:31pension savings, do do it over the long term, and on the long term, the

0:05:31 > 0:05:35trend has been up. Correction, not crash, I would say.In an ideal

0:05:35 > 0:05:40scenario, what are we looking forward to happen next?We will see,

0:05:40 > 0:05:43if you are falling down a cliff face, can you put a hand on and

0:05:43 > 0:05:49pours the stocks? Coming down again after a big drop yesterday, falling

0:05:49 > 0:05:55another 230 points on the UK 100 index, and it bounced back a bit. We

0:05:55 > 0:05:59will see if this holds. At the moment, it looks like it is holding.

0:05:59 > 0:06:03I would say, not time to panic at the moment, and for some people,

0:06:03 > 0:06:06your local stockbroker if you do this sort of thing, will phone you

0:06:06 > 0:06:10up and say it is a massive buying opportunity, wait for the volatility

0:06:10 > 0:06:15to die down.How many of us have local stockbroker 's??Lots of us

0:06:15 > 0:06:24have independent financial advisers! A lot of people will be sitting on

0:06:24 > 0:06:27their hands, waiting for things to calm down. We had a weird thing,

0:06:27 > 0:06:33interest rates around the world are at historic lows. These are more

0:06:33 > 0:06:39akin to a recession or a depression at these record lows. Yet, we have a

0:06:39 > 0:06:43global economy growing nearly 4%. There is a mismatch. A lot of people

0:06:43 > 0:06:48think that what we are going to get as the global economy grows is a

0:06:48 > 0:06:52much faster set of interest rate rises, and that makes people...

0:06:52 > 0:06:59Central banks around the world, we have been on free money, monetary

0:06:59 > 0:07:06drugs, wean us off them. When you people off that, you get one of

0:07:06 > 0:07:11these.OK. He is our business editor.

0:07:11 > 0:07:13Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

0:07:13 > 0:07:14of the rest of the days news.

0:07:14 > 0:07:20Hello.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23Thanks, Victoria. Good morning, everyone.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25The Conservative MP and leading Remain campaigner, Anna Soubry,

0:07:25 > 0:07:28has called on Theresa May to "sling out" what she called "hard

0:07:28 > 0:07:29Brexiteers" in the party.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32In an interview for the BBC, she said that the frontbench

0:07:32 > 0:07:34was "in hock" to 35 ideological Leave supporters.

0:07:34 > 0:07:37She insisted she would not stay in a party taken over by people

0:07:37 > 0:07:38like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41Campaigners are proposing women who were jailed while fighting

0:07:41 > 0:07:43for the right to vote, should be pardoned.

0:07:43 > 0:07:47Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has joined

0:07:47 > 0:07:49with the Fawcett Society campaign group and relatives

0:07:49 > 0:07:56of the suffragettes in calling for convictions to be overturned.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59It comes on the 100th anniversary of some women getting the vote

0:07:59 > 0:08:03in the UK.

0:08:03 > 0:08:06Relatives of the victims of the 1982 IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

0:08:06 > 0:08:09granted legal aid for a civil action against a suspect.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11A prosecution case against the convicted IRA member,

0:08:11 > 0:08:13John Downey, collapsed at the Old Bailey four years ago

0:08:13 > 0:08:16because he had a so-called "on the run" letter telling him

0:08:16 > 0:08:23he was no longer a wanted man. Frankie McCamley has more.

0:08:23 > 0:08:26July, 1982, four soldiers of the Royal Household Cavalry died

0:08:26 > 0:08:29and dozens were injured when an IRA car bomb was detonated

0:08:29 > 0:08:32outside Buckingham Palace.

0:08:32 > 0:08:36More than 30 years later, John Downey was charged

0:08:36 > 0:08:42with their murder, but the case collapsed after it had

0:08:42 > 0:08:45emerged he'd been given a so called 'on the run' letter,

0:08:45 > 0:08:47a guarantee he could not be prosecuted.

0:08:47 > 0:08:48The 66-year-old denied murder and conspiring

0:08:48 > 0:08:52to cause the explosion.

0:08:52 > 0:09:00The then Prime Minister David Cameron said Mr Downey should never

0:09:01 > 0:09:03have been given such assurances,

0:09:03 > 0:09:04describing it as "a dreadful mistake".

0:09:04 > 0:09:07Now, the legal aid agency has decided to provide funding

0:09:07 > 0:09:10to the families of the victims, which will allow them

0:09:10 > 0:09:10to begin civil action.

0:09:10 > 0:09:15The move has been welcomed by some, who hope this could be

0:09:15 > 0:09:23an opportunity to solve one of the most significant IRA bombings

0:09:24 > 0:09:26during the decades of that became known as The Troubles.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30Frankie McCamley, BBC News.

0:09:30 > 0:09:33A judge will rule later today on a request by the WikiLeaks

0:09:33 > 0:09:35founder, Julian Assange, to drop a warrant for his arrest.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38He's been living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for more

0:09:38 > 0:09:40than five years to avoid deportation to Sweden.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42Julian Assange believes he will be extradited to the United States

0:09:42 > 0:09:44if he leaves the embassy, for questioning about

0:09:44 > 0:09:48the activities of WikiLeaks.

0:09:48 > 0:09:54Public Health England says it wants

0:09:54 > 0:09:56e-cigarettes to be given on the NHS

0:09:56 > 0:09:58because they're an effective way to help smokers quit.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00Public Health England says vaping poses only a small fraction

0:10:00 > 0:10:02of the risk of smoking tobacco.

0:10:02 > 0:10:09Our health reporter Michelle Roberts has more.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30the Department for Transport says it is investing £23 billion on road

0:10:30 > 0:10:35schemes that will help to cut congestion.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37One of Love Island's female stars says she has been offered

0:10:37 > 0:10:40"substantially" less pay for the same jobs as the male

0:10:40 > 0:10:41contestants since leaving the ITV show.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43Olivia Attwood has told this programme this included jobs

0:10:43 > 0:10:45with her boyfriend Chris Hughes.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47She said when her management approached the clients to ask

0:10:47 > 0:10:51why, they immediately matched the payments.

0:10:51 > 0:10:58That's a summary of the latest BBC News. more at 9:30.

0:10:58 > 0:11:02Coral on Facebook says, "We deserve the same pay as man when we do the

0:11:02 > 0:11:08same job with the same hours. " Mark on Facebook says, "Women this, women

0:11:08 > 0:11:16that, who cares who pays what? Stop acting like it." Thank you. You can

0:11:16 > 0:11:24use Facebook, or or Twitter. Sarah is here with the sport.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is under pressure after another

0:11:27 > 0:11:29defeat, how much danger is there that he may lose his job?

0:11:29 > 0:11:32Increasing pressure on Antonio Conte, his side lost 4-1 away at

0:11:32 > 0:11:37Watford last night. His side were coming off the back of

0:11:37 > 0:11:40that 3-0 home loss to Bournemouth last week. They are fourth in the

0:11:40 > 0:11:47table, a point clear of Tottenham after losing last night will stop it

0:11:47 > 0:11:50is for the all-important Champions League places. Nerves got to them.

0:11:50 > 0:11:59Tui Bakayoko was sent off after a second yellow card. Troy Deeney

0:11:59 > 0:12:02scored the penalty. Eden Hazard equalised eight minutes before time

0:12:02 > 0:12:07before Watford went on to score another three goals. A big first

0:12:07 > 0:12:15home win for the new boss, Javi Gracia. Chelsea looked poor

0:12:15 > 0:12:17throughout the night, but Antonio Conte was insistent he is

0:12:17 > 0:12:23definitely, definitely, definitely not worried about his job.I'm not

0:12:23 > 0:12:28worried. I'm not worried. I'm not worried about my job. I work every

0:12:28 > 0:12:37day, and I give 120%, OK? If this is enough, it's OK. Otherwise, the club

0:12:37 > 0:12:41can take a different decision, but I'm not worried. Every day, every

0:12:41 > 0:12:46day, every West conference you ask me, "Are you worried about your

0:12:46 > 0:12:53dog?" No, I'm not worried.We get the message, but there has been

0:12:53 > 0:12:57eagle between Antonio Conte and the Chelsea hierarchy, he has repeatedly

0:12:57 > 0:13:01complained through the campaign about the lack of import towards the

0:13:01 > 0:13:06club's recruitment strategies. He has complained about Alvaro Morata's

0:13:06 > 0:13:09injury, so he does not have an out and out striker, Olivier Giroud was

0:13:09 > 0:13:17on the bench. A strained relationship at Chelsea.

0:13:17 > 0:13:20And Formula one are replacing Grid Girls with Grid Kids.

0:13:21 > 0:13:27Saw the fall out and reaction last week, the differing views of the

0:13:27 > 0:13:30promotion of Grid girls that Formula 1 have abolished. They are now going

0:13:30 > 0:13:36to have read kids, because of the long-standing practice of female

0:13:36 > 0:13:45models that they used before races. It is at odds with today's

0:13:45 > 0:13:51standards. They will use kids on the opening race of the next season. The

0:13:51 > 0:13:55next season, next month.

0:13:55 > 0:13:59More from Sarah through the morning.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02It's 100 years since some women were allowed to cast

0:14:02 > 0:14:04their vote in an election.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06This morning Theresa May has hailed the "heroism" of the suffragettes

0:14:06 > 0:14:09who campaigned for women to get the vote through daring stunts,

0:14:09 > 0:14:12law breaking and non-violent protest which saw some women being arrested,

0:14:12 > 0:14:18imprisoned and even losing their lives.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22100 years on and so much has changed - we'll talk to a 102 year

0:14:22 > 0:14:27old about he significant events in her life later in the programme.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30When it comes to voting there is virtually no gender gap -

0:14:30 > 0:14:37with roughly the same amount of men voting as women.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40Two monthly anniversary, we thought we would revive our blind date

0:14:40 > 0:14:44series.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46And take two women out on a date -

0:14:46 > 0:14:49one who'd never voted in an elected - and one who thinks

0:14:49 > 0:14:50all women should vote.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52Olivia Attwood is a reality tar who's best known for her appearance

0:14:52 > 0:14:54in last summer's Love Island and Anna Soubry

0:14:54 > 0:14:57is a Conservative MP. Here's how they got on.

0:15:00 > 0:15:07It's 100 years since women got the vote.

0:15:07 > 0:15:14So we took two women with very different views on a date.

0:15:16 > 0:15:21One who's never voted in an election.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24It's like, I think of Parliament, I think of like a room with men

0:15:24 > 0:15:29and women, but a lot of like old men falling asleep.

0:15:29 > 0:15:34And one who thinks women have a duty to vote.

0:15:34 > 0:15:35I think everybody should vote.

0:15:35 > 0:15:43Women worked so damn hard, it was such a serious trouble.

0:15:43 > 0:15:45-- serious struggle.

0:15:45 > 0:15:46Will sparks fly?

0:15:46 > 0:15:49I mean, they're just quite simple, aren't they, some of them?

0:15:49 > 0:15:50What, men?

0:15:50 > 0:15:51Yeah.

0:15:51 > 0:15:52They are, yes!

0:15:52 > 0:15:53Will things hot up?

0:15:53 > 0:15:56And will the political get personal?

0:15:56 > 0:15:59You know, we have experienced since leaving Love Island

0:15:59 > 0:16:02of doing different jobs, and we've had to do some digging

0:16:02 > 0:16:04to find out, you know, that the boys were getting paid

0:16:04 > 0:16:07substantially more than us for the exact same job.

0:16:07 > 0:16:09No!

0:16:09 > 0:16:10Yeah, for the exact same outcome.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13No!

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Sam, are you rolling?

0:16:26 > 0:16:28I'm rolling on the wide, yeah.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30Hi, I'm Olivia Attwood.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34I'm 26 and I am a TV personality.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37You probably saw me appear in the last series of Love Island.

0:16:37 > 0:16:41I've been on quite a few dates in my time, but this will be

0:16:41 > 0:16:42a different experience!

0:16:42 > 0:16:43I don't have an idea who I'm meeting.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46I believe it's an MP.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49I've never voted in a party vote, which I feel really ashamed of,

0:16:49 > 0:16:52especially we're celebrating the 100 years of women having the vote.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54I don't actually get nervous before dates,

0:16:54 > 0:16:57but I'm a little bit nervous before this date, actually, weirdly.

0:16:57 > 0:16:58A little bit nervous.

0:16:58 > 0:17:03It's out of my comfort zone, just a touch.

0:17:03 > 0:17:05My name is Anna Soubry, and I'm the member of Parliament

0:17:05 > 0:17:07for Broxtowe in Nottinghamshire.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09I'm looking forward to today.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12I have no idea who I shall be having lunch with.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15So that in itself is going to be quite interesting, and hopefully

0:17:15 > 0:17:18we will have a great conversation as well.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21I think there's an argument that says it was such a long struggle

0:17:21 > 0:17:23for women to get the vote, we kind of should

0:17:23 > 0:17:25get out and use it.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27Well, luckily, I'm feeling quite hungry, so I'm certainly

0:17:27 > 0:17:31looking forward to my food.

0:17:31 > 0:17:34But actually, more importantly, I want to know who the hell

0:17:34 > 0:17:40I'm having it with!

0:17:41 > 0:17:42Hello.

0:17:42 > 0:17:43Hi.

0:17:43 > 0:17:44Lovely to meet you.

0:17:44 > 0:17:45Hi, I'm Anna.

0:17:45 > 0:17:46Olivia.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48Lovely to meet you, too.

0:17:48 > 0:17:49How are you?

0:17:49 > 0:17:50I'm all right, darling, how you?

0:17:50 > 0:17:51Very well, thank you.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53You have to tell me all about yourself.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56I am Olivia, and I was on a show called Love Island.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58I don't know if you're familiar with it.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59Ah, yes.

0:17:59 > 0:18:00Did you watch?

0:18:00 > 0:18:01I can't imagine you did.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03Well, no, I do watch certain programmes,

0:18:03 > 0:18:06but Love Island's escaped me.

0:18:06 > 0:18:07And what you do?

0:18:07 > 0:18:09I think I do know, but...

0:18:09 > 0:18:11So, my name's Anna, and I'm a member of Parliament.

0:18:11 > 0:18:13Yes.

0:18:13 > 0:18:17And I was elected in 2010, and I did other stuff as well.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20And I decided to get involved again in politics,

0:18:20 > 0:18:24and I did that, and I still do.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27Lovely, thank you.

0:18:29 > 0:18:30Do you know what you're having?

0:18:30 > 0:18:32What are you having?

0:18:32 > 0:18:34I'm going to have a chicken Caesar salad, I think.

0:18:34 > 0:18:35Right.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37I'm having fish and chips.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40I was looking at it, but I went with the salad.

0:18:40 > 0:18:45You can have some of my chips!

0:18:45 > 0:18:51I live in Woking, so where...?

0:18:51 > 0:18:55I know it's heavily Conservative, and I believe it's John...?

0:18:55 > 0:18:57It's not John Redwood, is it, Woking?

0:18:57 > 0:18:58I think so.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00That rings a bell.

0:19:00 > 0:19:01Jonathan Lord.

0:19:01 > 0:19:02Oh, is it?

0:19:02 > 0:19:06You see, the fact that you actually know even part of your MP's name...

0:19:06 > 0:19:07Yeah.

0:19:07 > 0:19:08Is something.

0:19:08 > 0:19:09So you know masses of stuff.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13I have to admit, what I know is my dad is heavily into politics,

0:19:13 > 0:19:15so anything that I know, I've just sort of absorbed,

0:19:15 > 0:19:21like background noise, and some things I've taken

0:19:21 > 0:19:23in and some things I haven't.

0:19:23 > 0:19:24So your dad is interested in politics?

0:19:24 > 0:19:25Very.

0:19:25 > 0:19:29Is he a member of a political party?

0:19:29 > 0:19:31He's Liberal, but he's not a member.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33And he's German, so was very anti-Brexit.

0:19:33 > 0:19:34Did you vote in the referendum?

0:19:34 > 0:19:35For Brexit?

0:19:35 > 0:19:36Yes.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39But I've never voted in a party vote.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42For the reason that I just think I've never known

0:19:42 > 0:19:43what I wanted to vote for.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45But in terms of Brexit, I found that one relatively...

0:19:45 > 0:19:47For me, it was quite easy.

0:19:47 > 0:19:48And you voted for Remain?

0:19:48 > 0:19:50Yes.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52And was that because your father's German and so you understood

0:19:52 > 0:19:55what the whole EU thing was about?

0:19:55 > 0:19:58Just that, and I was working as a model all over Europe,

0:19:58 > 0:20:00I was worried what it would mean for that.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03You see, I can understand why, if you live in an area

0:20:03 > 0:20:06where you feel that your vote won't make much difference,

0:20:06 > 0:20:09people don't vote, and it is really interesting that you voted

0:20:09 > 0:20:12in the referendum, because you knew that your vote would count just

0:20:12 > 0:20:14like anybody else's.

0:20:14 > 0:20:17I've told my dad quite a few times that I voted, because...

0:20:17 > 0:20:20It makes him crazy, but at the same time, if there was a

0:20:20 > 0:20:23vote tomorrow, I probably again would not know what I wanted to vote

0:20:23 > 0:20:24for.

0:20:24 > 0:20:26So that's the issue, isn't it?

0:20:26 > 0:20:28I mean, I think everybody should vote.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31Women worked so damn hard, it was such a serious struggle, for

0:20:31 > 0:20:34ever.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36People didn't have a proper democracy.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39No.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42And so, when they got the opportunity, so when Mandela was

0:20:42 > 0:20:46elected president of South Africa, and they got the opportunity at last

0:20:46 > 0:20:49to vote, they were queueing for hours and hours because it was so

0:20:49 > 0:20:54precious that they finally could have their say.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57And that makes me feel, to think that I haven't used

0:20:57 > 0:20:59the vote when so many people would give so much for one,

0:20:59 > 0:21:02makes me feel not great.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06But then I think there is just, like you say, one thing coming

0:21:06 > 0:21:08from the Conservatives, and there is so much

0:21:08 > 0:21:10noise, and so much, you

0:21:10 > 0:21:12know, information, but I think it is harder

0:21:12 > 0:21:14for young people if you are

0:21:14 > 0:21:19not from that sort of world to break down what does each party do for me.

0:21:19 > 0:21:23-- and I think it is one thing, coming from a Conservative area.

0:21:23 > 0:21:24Do you know what I mean?

0:21:24 > 0:21:26No, I understand that, and I think that's

0:21:26 > 0:21:28the role of politicians, is to cut through the noise.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30From your experience, did a lot of your

0:21:30 > 0:21:32friends not vote in the referendum?

0:21:32 > 0:21:37Yeah.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40All the ones who did would just vote for who their parents

0:21:40 > 0:21:42voted for.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45And those that didn't vote, why would they vote?

0:21:45 > 0:21:46Because they said they didn't know who they

0:21:46 > 0:21:48wanted to vote for, what their reasons were.

0:21:48 > 0:21:55They wouldn't know who to vote for.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58Right, when you did Love Island, are you pleased you did

0:21:58 > 0:21:59it?

0:21:59 > 0:22:00Yes.

0:22:00 > 0:22:01I am.

0:22:05 > 0:22:06Half a whale, look.

0:22:06 > 0:22:07That looks amazing.

0:22:07 > 0:22:12That looks really good.

0:22:12 > 0:22:13You've made me really jealous, actually.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15You can have some, darling.

0:22:15 > 0:22:19Look at me with my salad.

0:22:19 > 0:22:20I've brought some fries as well.

0:22:20 > 0:22:21Actually, yeah.

0:22:21 > 0:22:22Thank you very much.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24So it was worth it, then?

0:22:24 > 0:22:25I think so, yeah.

0:22:25 > 0:22:26I've had like amazing

0:22:26 > 0:22:27opportunities, for example

0:22:27 > 0:22:29this, that I wouldn't...

0:22:29 > 0:22:32It's opened doors for me that wouldn't have opened beforehand.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34So it is amazing.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37Do you ever feel, I'm only doing this thing or I've only been

0:22:37 > 0:22:38asked to do this thing

0:22:38 > 0:22:42because I'm a beautiful young woman?

0:22:42 > 0:22:44It's such a debate, for example the debate

0:22:44 > 0:22:45going on now about taking the

0:22:45 > 0:22:47girls away from the darts.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50I mean, it's like...

0:22:50 > 0:22:51People say, are you a feminist?

0:22:51 > 0:22:54I don't know where I stand on it for the reason that I believe

0:22:54 > 0:22:59in equal rights for men and women, and I believe that we are equals,

0:22:59 > 0:23:03but I also believe there's something going the other way of isn't it up

0:23:03 > 0:23:05to the individual girl of what makes her feel

0:23:05 > 0:23:06empowered, not someone to

0:23:06 > 0:23:09tell her that she is being degraded by wearing sparkly dress and holding

0:23:09 > 0:23:13up the dart, if she wants to do that...

0:23:13 > 0:23:16I think on the darts thing, I agree with you, I don't think it's

0:23:16 > 0:23:19for other people to tell a woman, you should not do this, and you

0:23:19 > 0:23:22should do that.

0:23:22 > 0:23:24I agree with you completely.

0:23:24 > 0:23:28But I wonder if actually it isn't quite a bit of a sad thing

0:23:28 > 0:23:30that people don't see themselves, actually, the only reason I'm here

0:23:30 > 0:23:33with this board is pretty much so that men can

0:23:33 > 0:23:37kind of get off on it.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39Yeah.

0:23:39 > 0:23:44And I totally get that opinion.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47I mean, they are just quite simple, aren't they, some of them?

0:23:47 > 0:23:48What, men?

0:23:48 > 0:23:49Yeah.

0:23:49 > 0:23:56They are, yes!

0:23:58 > 0:24:01Obviously I'm guessing you count yourself as a feminist.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04And to you, what does that mean?

0:24:04 > 0:24:09Well, I agree, it is about that we are equal, we should

0:24:09 > 0:24:12be paid equally, we should be treated just like a man would be

0:24:12 > 0:24:15treated and all the rest of it.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17But I think that we're a long way from

0:24:17 > 0:24:21being where I thought we might be by 2018.

0:24:21 > 0:24:25Yeah.

0:24:25 > 0:24:26My mum was a radiographer.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29She told me, she said, when I started off, I wasn't paid

0:24:29 > 0:24:31the same as a man doing the same job.

0:24:31 > 0:24:32Yeah.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34But that still goes on now.

0:24:34 > 0:24:35And I've had first-hand experience of it.

0:24:35 > 0:24:36Go on.

0:24:36 > 0:24:40We have experienced since leaving Love

0:24:40 > 0:24:43Island of doing different jobs, and we've had to do some

0:24:43 > 0:24:45digging to find out, you know, that the boys were

0:24:45 > 0:24:47getting paid substantially more than us for the exact same job.

0:24:47 > 0:24:48No!

0:24:48 > 0:24:49For the exact same outcome.

0:24:49 > 0:24:51No!

0:24:51 > 0:24:53And I have a female management team, so

0:24:53 > 0:24:56you can imagine, who are very strong women, so we are a very strong

0:24:56 > 0:24:59female force in my camp.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01When obviously my manager said,

0:25:01 > 0:25:04they've all discussed the fee, what's going on, what is the

0:25:04 > 0:25:05reason?

0:25:05 > 0:25:08There was a lot of panic from their end, and straightaway it

0:25:08 > 0:25:11was, please don't tell anyone, we will match the money.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14So the money was always there.

0:25:14 > 0:25:15That is shocking!

0:25:15 > 0:25:18The first thing that my manager said was, in this climate, is that

0:25:18 > 0:25:21really, you really want to, like, play with that subject?

0:25:21 > 0:25:22And they straightaway said, we'll make it

0:25:22 > 0:25:25right.

0:25:31 > 0:25:34So, why do you think we can do for the sort of post-school ages,

0:25:34 > 0:25:36sort of people my age and a bit younger?

0:25:36 > 0:25:40To get them voting?

0:25:40 > 0:25:42I think it's the issues, I think it's the

0:25:42 > 0:25:43language we use.

0:25:43 > 0:25:45And I think it's making it relevant to people.

0:25:45 > 0:25:46Yeah.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48And actually doing stuff that makes a difference.

0:25:48 > 0:25:49Yeah.

0:25:49 > 0:25:51I was thinking of the power of social media.

0:25:51 > 0:25:54The amount of, say, following I have now,

0:25:54 > 0:25:55I am considered like an

0:25:55 > 0:25:57influencer.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00So I can influence how many thousands of people to, you

0:26:00 > 0:26:03know, order a certain dress because I'm wearing it.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06Like how great would it be if other people from my

0:26:06 > 0:26:08background, who all these young people follow,

0:26:08 > 0:26:09could be more involved in a

0:26:09 > 0:26:12way that, they're looking on our pages for whatever they're looking

0:26:12 > 0:26:15for, then it's also, we're talking about politics and who we're going

0:26:15 > 0:26:18to vote for.

0:26:18 > 0:26:20Because I think that would make a massive difference.

0:26:20 > 0:26:21I think it would.

0:26:21 > 0:26:23I mean, it would be difficult.

0:26:23 > 0:26:24It would.

0:26:24 > 0:26:26Because if you make a choice, you might get an

0:26:26 > 0:26:27awful lot of...

0:26:27 > 0:26:28Backlash.

0:26:28 > 0:26:29Yeah.

0:26:29 > 0:26:31Yes, that's why people shy away from it.

0:26:31 > 0:26:36And you must know how appalling that abuse can be.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39I've had two people who gone to prison.

0:26:39 > 0:26:43Well, one went to prison and the other one got a suspended...

0:26:43 > 0:26:44Sorry.

0:26:44 > 0:26:45For trolling you?

0:26:45 > 0:26:46Yes.

0:26:46 > 0:26:49Because they both of them effectively made threats based on

0:26:49 > 0:26:55the murder of another MP, Jo Cox.

0:26:55 > 0:26:59My mum and sisters had death threats about me being an Love Island.

0:26:59 > 0:27:00Oh, for God's sake.

0:27:00 > 0:27:02And I wasn't doing anything really disturbing, just my

0:27:02 > 0:27:09opinions.

0:27:09 > 0:27:11Some people say Parliament's got to look more like

0:27:11 > 0:27:12society.

0:27:12 > 0:27:13Right?

0:27:13 > 0:27:16I think it needs to be more relatable, but how it

0:27:16 > 0:27:18is...

0:27:18 > 0:27:20I mean, to me, and how many people, I think of

0:27:20 > 0:27:23Parliament, I think of like a room with men and women,

0:27:23 > 0:27:25but a lot of like old men

0:27:25 > 0:27:28like falling asleep, do you know what I mean?

0:27:28 > 0:27:31In my mind, if I just do like a visual, that's what I see

0:27:31 > 0:27:32right now.

0:27:32 > 0:27:35But then the same time, they should be awake,

0:27:35 > 0:27:37that would be a start.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40But apart from that, I feel like it can't

0:27:40 > 0:27:41look like society.

0:27:41 > 0:27:44You can't have Dave from your local pub just ranting and raving

0:27:44 > 0:27:47in the House of Commons, do you know what I mean?

0:27:47 > 0:27:48I think he's there!

0:27:48 > 0:27:50He probably is, he's the one sleeping.

0:27:50 > 0:27:51No, I know exactly what you mean.

0:27:51 > 0:27:53I think you are absolutely right.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55I think we should see more women there.

0:27:55 > 0:28:00I think we could do with more younger people in.

0:28:00 > 0:28:03We could certainly do with more women in, certainly more

0:28:03 > 0:28:04black and brown faces in.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08What we really want are people who are going to do the right thing.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11You could be this person!

0:28:11 > 0:28:12That would be...

0:28:12 > 0:28:14Do you think I'm up to it?

0:28:14 > 0:28:15You?

0:28:15 > 0:28:16You bet!

0:28:16 > 0:28:18I bet you are.

0:28:18 > 0:28:20But you stand up for yourself.

0:28:20 > 0:28:23So if your stand up for yourself, you'll stand up for other people

0:28:23 > 0:28:29as well, definitely.

0:28:29 > 0:28:31Well, if Donald Trump can be president, anything is possible.

0:28:31 > 0:28:32Christ, that's true.

0:28:32 > 0:28:36He's ghastly.

0:28:36 > 0:28:38So Olivia off Love Island has a chance.

0:28:38 > 0:28:39Excellent.

0:28:39 > 0:28:40Job done.

0:28:40 > 0:28:42I can drink my coffee now.

0:28:42 > 0:28:43Good lunch.

0:28:43 > 0:28:45I mustn't knock myself out on this thing.

0:28:45 > 0:28:52It's because you're tall!

0:28:53 > 0:28:53I really enjoyed that.

0:28:53 > 0:28:55You didn't eat much food, though!

0:28:55 > 0:28:56I didn't.

0:28:56 > 0:28:57I was too busy talking.

0:28:57 > 0:29:00I didn't want lettuce hanging out of the side of my mouth.

0:29:00 > 0:29:02I can't eat and talk at the same time.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05I was trying to have a bit of decorum about myself.

0:29:05 > 0:29:06You had one chip.

0:29:06 > 0:29:07One chip.

0:29:07 > 0:29:08That's better than nothing.

0:29:08 > 0:29:10I ate most of my chips, actually.

0:29:10 > 0:29:11You did well.

0:29:11 > 0:29:12I thought it was great.

0:29:12 > 0:29:14Lovely to meet you, but a good chat, as well.

0:29:14 > 0:29:15Yeah, really good.

0:29:15 > 0:29:17I feel like I've learned a lot.

0:29:17 > 0:29:18Do you?

0:29:18 > 0:29:19Yeah, I actually do.

0:29:19 > 0:29:25It's nice to meet you, who is like an MP, and you're cool,

0:29:25 > 0:29:28and you're a strong woman, and I can speak to you.

0:29:28 > 0:29:30For my meeting you, you're a very smart cookie.

0:29:30 > 0:29:31You know exactly what you're doing.

0:29:31 > 0:29:32Do I?

0:29:32 > 0:29:34Oh, yeah, you are well...

0:29:34 > 0:29:36Nobody's going to take the mick out of you.

0:29:36 > 0:29:37I hope not.

0:29:37 > 0:29:39But nobody's going to exploit you, and I think you know

0:29:39 > 0:29:41exactly what you're doing, and you get it.

0:29:41 > 0:29:43And you're not daft.

0:29:43 > 0:29:45Do you think you'll vote next time, Olivia?

0:29:45 > 0:29:46I'm definitely voting next time.

0:29:46 > 0:29:47Every vote counts.

0:29:47 > 0:29:50Absolutely.

0:29:50 > 0:29:51I think I've taken that away.

0:29:51 > 0:29:54Even if your area is heavily towards one party, you go,

0:29:54 > 0:29:57they are always going to win, so what difference does it make?

0:29:57 > 0:29:58It can make a difference.

0:29:58 > 0:29:59It can.

0:29:59 > 0:30:01Do you think we'll see you have another lunch together soon?

0:30:01 > 0:30:03She's too busy!

0:30:03 > 0:30:04She's got this fantastic career!

0:30:04 > 0:30:05I shall watch her now.

0:30:05 > 0:30:06I shall follow you.

0:30:06 > 0:30:07Follow you on Twitter!

0:30:07 > 0:30:10How many followers have you got?

0:30:10 > 0:30:14I think 300,000.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16I am definitely going to follow you on Twitter.

0:30:16 > 0:30:17How many have you got, Anna?

0:30:17 > 0:30:1862,000.

0:30:18 > 0:30:19It's not bad.

0:30:19 > 0:30:22That's not bad at all!

0:30:29 > 0:30:34A little later we'll hear from a 102-year-old woman

0:30:34 > 0:30:37about what has changed in her life.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39Still to come:

0:30:39 > 0:30:46The Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been taking refuge

0:30:46 > 0:30:49at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London since 2012 will find out

0:30:49 > 0:30:51today if his UK arrest warrant will be dropped.

0:30:51 > 0:30:55We'll speak to one of his supporters and critics.

0:30:55 > 0:30:58And a court in Liverpool has been told there's been a further decline

0:30:58 > 0:31:01in the condition of Alfie Evans - the baby at the centre

0:31:01 > 0:31:04of a legal battle about the withdrawal of life support.

0:31:04 > 0:31:11We'll speak to his father who's fighting against the decision.

0:31:11 > 0:31:15Time for the latest news. Here's Annita.

0:31:15 > 0:31:17The BBC News headlines this morning:

0:31:17 > 0:31:20The value of some of Asia's biggest companies have plunged in response

0:31:20 > 0:31:28to big falls in the United States.

0:31:33 > 0:31:36In New York, the Dow Jones closed down more than 1100,

0:31:36 > 0:31:38the biggest one day fall in history.

0:31:38 > 0:31:40This morning the FTSE 100 crashed by more than 200 points -

0:31:40 > 0:31:42its lowest level since late 2016.

0:31:42 > 0:31:44Investment director Jane Sydenham says the drop wasn't

0:31:44 > 0:31:45completely unexpected.

0:31:45 > 0:31:48This is really in response to a jobs report last week which kind

0:31:48 > 0:31:51of indicated that wages were rising a bit faster than everybody

0:31:51 > 0:31:53was expecting, and the implication from that is that interest rates

0:31:53 > 0:32:00have to rise faster too, which stock markets really don't like.

0:32:00 > 0:32:03So in the last 15 months, we've had no more than a 3%

0:32:03 > 0:32:08correction in stock markets, which is very, very unusual.

0:32:08 > 0:32:11So at some point, it was likely we were going to see a bit

0:32:11 > 0:32:13more volatility anyway.

0:32:13 > 0:32:15It is really very unusual for markets to have been quite

0:32:15 > 0:32:17as calm as they have been.

0:32:17 > 0:32:20The Conservative MP and leading Remain campaigner, Anna Soubry,

0:32:20 > 0:32:23has called on Theresa May to "sling out" what she called

0:32:23 > 0:32:24"hard Brexiteers" in the party.

0:32:24 > 0:32:26In an interview for the BBC, she said that the frontbench

0:32:26 > 0:32:31was "in hock" to 35 ideological Leave supporters.

0:32:31 > 0:32:34She insisted she would not stay in a party taken over by people

0:32:34 > 0:32:41like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson.

0:32:41 > 0:32:43Campaigners are proposing that women who were jailed while fighting

0:32:43 > 0:32:45for the right to vote, should be pardoned.

0:32:45 > 0:32:53Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has joined

0:32:53 > 0:32:55with the Fawcett Society Campaign Group and relatives

0:32:55 > 0:32:57of the suffragettes in calling for convictions to be overturned.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59It comes on the 100th anniversary of some women

0:32:59 > 0:33:01getting the vote in the UK.

0:33:01 > 0:33:04Relatives of the victims of the 1982 IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

0:33:04 > 0:33:06granted legal aid for a civil action against a suspect.

0:33:06 > 0:33:08A prosecution case against the convicted IRA member,

0:33:08 > 0:33:10John Downey, collapsed at the Old Bailey four years ago

0:33:10 > 0:33:13because he had a so-called "on the run" letter telling him

0:33:13 > 0:33:15he was no longer a wanted man.

0:33:15 > 0:33:25And wouldn't be prosecuted. Julian Assange has been living in the

0:33:25 > 0:33:31Ecuadorian Embassy to avoid deportation to Sweden. He believes

0:33:31 > 0:33:34he will be extradited to the United States if he leaves the embassy for

0:33:34 > 0:33:45questioning on the activity of WikiLeaks.

0:33:45 > 0:33:48Public Health England says it wants e-cigarettes to be prescribed

0:33:48 > 0:33:50on the NHS within the next two to three years because they're

0:33:50 > 0:33:52an effective way to help smokers quit.

0:33:52 > 0:33:54The agency has reviewed the latest evidence and says vaping poses only

0:33:54 > 0:33:57a small fraction of the risk of smoking tobacco.

0:33:57 > 0:33:59It's calling for the UK's drug regulator to help manufacturers

0:33:59 > 0:34:00get their products approved.

0:34:00 > 0:34:05That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:34:05 > 0:34:10The National crime agency has launched one of its biggest

0:34:10 > 0:34:16anti-people smuggling operations. They say, 350 officers took part in

0:34:16 > 0:34:18raids in Northumbria, Cleveland, Sussex and the Metropolitan Police

0:34:18 > 0:34:20force areas.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:34:22 > 0:34:24Here's some sport now with Sarah.

0:34:24 > 0:34:26The pressure is mounting on Chelsea boss Antonio Conte -

0:34:26 > 0:34:28but he insists he's not worried after his side fell

0:34:28 > 0:34:32to a second successive defeat in the Premier League.

0:34:32 > 0:34:35They were beaten 4-1 away at struggling Watford,

0:34:35 > 0:34:38but it was an unforgettable night for the new Hornets

0:34:38 > 0:34:40boss Javi Gracia.

0:34:40 > 0:34:46A first win in his first home game in charge.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48The Winter Olympics begin on Friday, but 32 Russian athletes have

0:34:48 > 0:34:49appealed against their exclusion.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52Their hearings will take place on Wednesday.

0:34:52 > 0:34:54And Maddie Hinch has been named best female hockey goalkeeper

0:34:54 > 0:34:58for the second year in a row.

0:34:58 > 0:35:03She was part of the GB Olympic winning team in Rio and last year

0:35:03 > 0:35:05and helped England win bronze in both the EuroHockey Championships

0:35:05 > 0:35:08and World League. I'll be back with more later.

0:35:12 > 0:35:15Julian Assange, founder of the controversial organisation

0:35:15 > 0:35:19WikiLeaks, which released government secrets to the public has lived at

0:35:19 > 0:35:25the Ecuadorian Embassy in London's Knightsbridge since 2012. He sought

0:35:25 > 0:35:28refuge there while facing sexual assault allegations in Sweden, which

0:35:28 > 0:35:32he believes were part of a plot that would ultimately lead to his

0:35:32 > 0:35:37extradition to America. Swedish prosecutors have now dropped the

0:35:37 > 0:35:41case against him, but he is still accused of breaching bail conditions

0:35:41 > 0:35:46by failing to surrender to a UK court in 2012, and would therefore

0:35:46 > 0:35:50face arrest if he were to set foot outside the embassy. Today, a court

0:35:50 > 0:35:54will rule on whether that arrest warrant should now be dropped. A few

0:35:54 > 0:35:58weeks ago, a supporter, Pamela Anderson, told the programme how he

0:35:58 > 0:36:02was doing.

0:36:02 > 0:36:05He's in good form. He...

0:36:05 > 0:36:08You know, it's a testament to the human spirit.

0:36:08 > 0:36:11You know, the UN ruling is really important to look at,

0:36:11 > 0:36:14that he is held under terrible conditions and it's inhumane and

0:36:14 > 0:36:19cruel and he should not be there.

0:36:19 > 0:36:21He has Ecuadorian nationality now, so is he planning to leave

0:36:21 > 0:36:24the embassy any time soon? Did you speak to him about that?

0:36:24 > 0:36:25Wouldn't that be great?

0:36:25 > 0:36:31But it's impossible for him to leave under any safe circumstances

0:36:31 > 0:36:34with the extradition pending in the UK.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36Or, you know...?

0:36:36 > 0:36:39We just don't know, so it's not safe for him to leave.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41Did you talk to him about that yesterday?

0:36:41 > 0:36:46Yes, we talk about everything. I always make sure he's OK.

0:36:46 > 0:36:48I make sure he's exercising, I make sure he's eating well.

0:36:48 > 0:36:50He doesn't get any sunlight, you know?

0:36:50 > 0:36:52So it's a very unhealthy situation for him.

0:36:52 > 0:36:55But he is determined and relentless and in good spirits.

0:36:55 > 0:36:59What he is doing is very, very important and we need to know.

0:36:59 > 0:37:00We need to have true information.

0:37:00 > 0:37:02With us in the studio is Jennifer Robinson,

0:37:02 > 0:37:04part of Assange's legal team, human rights campaigner

0:37:04 > 0:37:12Peter Tatchell who's a friend of Assange,

0:37:12 > 0:37:13and Douglas Murray from the Henry Jackson Society

0:37:13 > 0:37:16who debated publicly with Assange in 2011 and is highly

0:37:16 > 0:37:19critical of Wikileaks.

0:37:19 > 0:37:23Welcome to all of you, thank you for coming on the programme. Jennifer,

0:37:23 > 0:37:27on what grounds are you going to argue that the arrest warrant for

0:37:27 > 0:37:30breaching the bail conditions should be dropped?The arrest warrant is in

0:37:30 > 0:37:35relation to the Swedish case, which has been dropped. The Crown

0:37:35 > 0:37:38Prosecution Service is attempting to use an old wants to assert his

0:37:38 > 0:37:45arrest, which is a separate offence. He did breach bail.In order to seek

0:37:45 > 0:37:49protection from Ecuador.He didn't turn up or report to a court when he

0:37:49 > 0:37:57was supposed to, that is a breach of bail.In order to protect himself.

0:37:57 > 0:38:01He still breached bail conditions. He is willing to face British

0:38:01 > 0:38:04justice, but not at the expense of the cost of facing American

0:38:04 > 0:38:05injustice.

0:38:05 > 0:38:12The UK Government refuses to confirm...You are mixing two

0:38:12 > 0:38:16things, you say he is willing to face British justice. If he is, why

0:38:16 > 0:38:20doesn't he stepped outside the Ecuadorian Embassy and face arrest?

0:38:20 > 0:38:23He is putting himself at the risk of a potential extradition request from

0:38:23 > 0:38:29the US. The US Attorney General says prosecuting him is a priority for

0:38:29 > 0:38:33the US government. The UK Government refuses to give assurances or

0:38:33 > 0:38:37confirm if they have an expedition request. Until we have bad, he

0:38:37 > 0:38:41cannot deal with that. We don't want him to put himself at risk. That is

0:38:41 > 0:38:46our main concern.Peter, what should happen to your friend now?Firstly,

0:38:46 > 0:38:51let's remember that Britain has an obligation under the refugee

0:38:51 > 0:38:57Convention, which is assigned to give political asylum and recognise

0:38:57 > 0:39:01political asylum for those that have secured it. Julian Assange.

0:39:01 > 0:39:07Political asylum from Ecuador in 2012. Therefore, Britain has a moral

0:39:07 > 0:39:11and legal obligation under international law to allow him to go

0:39:11 > 0:39:18to Ecuador. Not doing so...Does he want to go to Ecuador?Absolutely.

0:39:18 > 0:39:22Not doing so is in violation of obligations under the refugee

0:39:22 > 0:39:26Convention.He could go to Ecuador. He has to walked out of the

0:39:26 > 0:39:30building, get on a plane and face arrest, he can make the decision

0:39:30 > 0:39:34himself.It would be a foolish decision, because he potentially

0:39:34 > 0:39:40faces life imprisonment in the US. We know that since 2010, a grand

0:39:40 > 0:39:44jury has begun investigations with the view of prosecuting him, with

0:39:44 > 0:39:47the prospect of a whole series of charges that amount to life

0:39:47 > 0:39:53imprisonment. A very foolish person would do that.He knew that when he

0:39:53 > 0:39:57released US government secrets. He knew that was a possibility then.

0:39:57 > 0:40:02Well, he may have known that, but no person would willingly put

0:40:02 > 0:40:08themselves in a situation where they would suffer, or be at risk of

0:40:08 > 0:40:11suffering for telling the public about the secret activities of the

0:40:11 > 0:40:17United States government military. Julian Assange, whatever you think

0:40:17 > 0:40:21about him, he has performed a great public services shining a light on

0:40:21 > 0:40:29rights abuses. We ought to thank him. He is not a terrorist, he is

0:40:29 > 0:40:32not someone that has acted against the public interest, he has acted in

0:40:32 > 0:40:36the public interest by giving us the right to know what the US government

0:40:36 > 0:40:40has been doing in the name of the American people, and indeed, the

0:40:40 > 0:40:45people across the world.Do you thank him for that service?No, I

0:40:45 > 0:40:50don't. I think it is a partisan point. Some people on the political

0:40:50 > 0:40:55left always supported him when he was releasing information that was

0:40:55 > 0:40:58highly damaging to the United States of America. Interestingly enough, in

0:40:58 > 0:41:02the time he has been at the Ecuadorian Embassy, there has been a

0:41:02 > 0:41:05shift in support, supporters on the American Right, because he would

0:41:05 > 0:41:09least a data dump of damaging e-mails about the Clinton campaign

0:41:09 > 0:41:12that assisted Donald Trump's entry to the White House. What do these

0:41:12 > 0:41:20things have in common? Multiple investigations by all three of the

0:41:20 > 0:41:23American intelligence agencies confirmed that the latter thing in

0:41:23 > 0:41:26particular was clearly facilitated by the Russian intelligence

0:41:26 > 0:41:31services. I said this when I met him many years ago. It was clear to me

0:41:31 > 0:41:34and anyone that analysed the work he was doing, there was one consistent

0:41:34 > 0:41:38threat. Everything he did was useful to the Russian intelligence

0:41:38 > 0:41:42services. I don't know whether he works for them, he acts as a conduit

0:41:42 > 0:41:46for them. For that, nobody that cares about freedom should care

0:41:46 > 0:41:51about Julian Assange. One more thing, the specific issue of the

0:41:51 > 0:41:55Swedish rape accusations, another thing has happened, we live in an

0:41:55 > 0:41:58era where we want to believe women when they say they have been raped.

0:41:58 > 0:42:06It seems that a lot of women, a lot of people want to believe women...

0:42:06 > 0:42:10That was up to Swedish...They dropped... They drop them not

0:42:10 > 0:42:16because... Time ran out. The statute of limitations, which he knew would

0:42:16 > 0:42:24run out and used a...That is not correct. He gave the case to the

0:42:24 > 0:42:28Swedish prosecutor, they decided the case ought to be closed.Time ran

0:42:28 > 0:42:37out.Which one of cases are talking about?In all cases.

0:42:37 > 0:42:40about?In all cases.OK.Hang on a minute. I want to ask you about

0:42:40 > 0:42:45British taxpayer money. People watching the programme have spent

0:42:45 > 0:42:49money on the police standing outside the Ecuadorian Embassy for the last

0:42:49 > 0:42:54number of years, in case he tried to escape. Surely there is no public

0:42:54 > 0:42:58interest now in continuing this arrest warrant, because it is just

0:42:58 > 0:43:04going to spend more British taxpayer money.Firstly, I think that

0:43:04 > 0:43:07accusations that women bring about rape should be treated seriously,

0:43:07 > 0:43:11and taxpayers can understand that. Secondly, it is in the taxpayer

0:43:11 > 0:43:16interest to be interested in a manner that has acted as a conduit

0:43:16 > 0:43:21for Russian intelligence. That is not a weird, niche interest. It is a

0:43:21 > 0:43:24serious problem for this country and allies.What should he be charged

0:43:24 > 0:43:28with?We shall see, I am not a lawyer.You are making this

0:43:28 > 0:43:37allegation. Watmore has a broken?We will see.We shall see.You don't

0:43:37 > 0:43:44know. He should be tried by British authorities.Whatever we think about

0:43:44 > 0:43:49Julian Assange, he has served the equivalent of a 5.5 year prison

0:43:49 > 0:43:56term. His detention in the Ecuadorian Embassy.He has chosen to

0:43:56 > 0:44:01be there.The United Nations working group said it was arbitrary

0:44:01 > 0:44:07detention.He can walk out any day, you know that is true.He has served

0:44:07 > 0:44:11the prevalence of age five and a half year prison term. That is

0:44:11 > 0:44:18punishment enough. I think we need to move on, because I can't see the

0:44:18 > 0:44:21public interest or public benefit in pursuing him further.Let me bring

0:44:21 > 0:44:28Jennifer Robinson back in. "Julian Assange isn't being held, he is

0:44:28 > 0:44:35hiding out to evade justice." Mark tweets," Julian Assange of Rochelle

0:44:35 > 0:44:40WikiLeaks, I have no sympathy for him." Is he a Russian agent?

0:44:40 > 0:44:47Absolutely not.How do you know?The New York Times said they would have

0:44:47 > 0:44:53published the DMC material. It was information in the public interest

0:44:53 > 0:44:58and true information.If he wins today, if the arrest warrant is

0:44:58 > 0:45:01dropped, might he choose to remain inside the Ecuadorian Embassy for

0:45:01 > 0:45:10the foreseeable, because of this fear you say he has about being to

0:45:10 > 0:45:13the USA?We are concerned there is an extradition request that the UK

0:45:13 > 0:45:17refuses to confirm or deny. We suspect it is waiting for the police

0:45:17 > 0:45:24to execute it once he is in custody.

0:45:24 > 0:45:28The US has said it is a priority to prosecute him, we know the CIA

0:45:28 > 0:45:32director says he should not benefit from first Amendment rights and they

0:45:32 > 0:45:37want to take WikiLeaks down. These are serious threats, no one can

0:45:37 > 0:45:41credibly deny that the US is not a threat.He has done a very serious

0:45:41 > 0:45:45thing. In saying you don't know a Russian agent or you think he is

0:45:45 > 0:45:48not, you ignore the more likely possibility which would be

0:45:48 > 0:45:52consistent with the Russian intelligence operations that they

0:45:52 > 0:46:00use go-betweens. Mr Assange does not need to know or care to answer the

0:46:00 > 0:46:02question about where these data dumps come from. Always help Russia,

0:46:02 > 0:46:05always help them. Never once in all these years has he released anything

0:46:05 > 0:46:11remotely critical of the SF -- of the FSB or any other agency of the

0:46:11 > 0:46:16Russian state. I wonder why?!Thank you for coming in. We will see what

0:46:16 > 0:46:20happens and report back. Coming up... How can we deal with

0:46:20 > 0:46:24online trolls? Katie Price is giving evidence to MPs calling for online

0:46:24 > 0:46:28abuse to be made into a specific offence with a register of

0:46:28 > 0:46:32offenders. We will speak to her after 10am.

0:46:32 > 0:46:34If you have experienced online abuse, what do you think of her

0:46:34 > 0:46:38notion that there should be a register of offenders, a database,

0:46:38 > 0:46:44if you like? Shares in London and across Europe

0:46:44 > 0:46:48fell steeply when markets opened this morning, triggered by the big

0:46:48 > 0:46:52falls in the United States. How significant is this? Our

0:46:52 > 0:46:57business editor Simon Jack said it is not a crash but a correction.

0:46:57 > 0:47:03A correction is when it goes down 10% from its peak. Just to remind

0:47:03 > 0:47:07everyone, the stock market has been on a hell of a tear over the last

0:47:07 > 0:47:11few years, one-way traffic. Once in a while, some people think it is

0:47:11 > 0:47:16quite healthy to take some air out of the tyres, bring it back to a

0:47:16 > 0:47:21more sustainable level. I think it is a correction, not a crash at the

0:47:21 > 0:47:26moment, because the global economy is pretty strong. It is very rare to

0:47:26 > 0:47:29get a full-blown crash like in 1987 Black Monday when you have the

0:47:29 > 0:47:36underlying

0:47:36 > 0:47:38underlying fundamentals of the economy are pretty strong.

0:47:38 > 0:47:40Will it matter to people with savings? If you have a pension and

0:47:40 > 0:47:43you owned some of the shares which have fallen pretty strongly, you

0:47:43 > 0:47:46will take a small hit. Usually pension savings due to it over the

0:47:46 > 0:47:49long term, and over the long-term trend has been up.

0:47:49 > 0:47:52Correction, not crush, I would say. Let's speak to an economic

0:47:52 > 0:47:59journalist. How have the world stock markets that have opened so far

0:47:59 > 0:48:01reacted? It is not a pretty picture. You

0:48:01 > 0:48:04heard from Simon Jack that all around the globe you have seen share

0:48:04 > 0:48:09falling quite dramatically. If you have a pension or any fund that

0:48:09 > 0:48:13invests in something like the FTSE 100, you will be concerned. But

0:48:13 > 0:48:17let's look at the bigger picture. What has happened is not concerned

0:48:17 > 0:48:23about what is going on in the UK but concerns about the US. Shares their

0:48:23 > 0:48:29rose very quickly indeed last year, up by 25%. That is not because the

0:48:29 > 0:48:36economy was 25% stronger or company profits were, it is because people

0:48:36 > 0:48:39feel very upbeat about prospects. But at the back of their mind all

0:48:39 > 0:48:42these traders knew that interest rates which have been incredibly low

0:48:42 > 0:48:48for almost a decade were likely to start rising even further up, that

0:48:48 > 0:48:53was likely to happen over the next year or two. That reality check has

0:48:53 > 0:48:58happened quite suddenly in the last few days. Investors are realising

0:48:58 > 0:49:02that inflation could be inching up in the US, inflation rates are

0:49:02 > 0:49:06likely to rise, perhaps faster than they thought. So the party was

0:49:06 > 0:49:11coming to an almighty Holt and shares falling quite dramatically on

0:49:11 > 0:49:15Monday in the US. In the UK, the stock markets have not done nearly

0:49:15 > 0:49:20as well over the past year. They have been raised... Weighed down by

0:49:20 > 0:49:25concerns over Brexit. But there was a jittery mood. Shares have been

0:49:25 > 0:49:29falling, and have done so around the globe. US consumers spend a lot of

0:49:29 > 0:49:34money and if they are scared about their money it impacts on

0:49:34 > 0:49:42manufacturers and other companies as well. Those jitters are likely to

0:49:42 > 0:49:47continue. Concerns are likely to remain, meaning markets are likely

0:49:47 > 0:49:51to remain very shaky. A bit of a bright spot ahead. It feels like

0:49:51 > 0:49:57markets in the US are expected to open up, rant about 100 points, a

0:49:57 > 0:50:01small rise compared to what they fell by in the last couple of days,

0:50:01 > 0:50:06but nevertheless it underlines we are not looking at a one-way crash,

0:50:06 > 0:50:11but perhaps a roller-coaster few months.The global economy is

0:50:11 > 0:50:17growing. How does this all feed into central bank Sam Baird decisions in

0:50:17 > 0:50:23the future to leave historically low interest rates as they are or

0:50:23 > 0:50:27whether to raise them? That is important to people with mortgages

0:50:27 > 0:50:33and savings.It is crucial. Our bank will bring out the latest decision

0:50:33 > 0:50:40in just two days. Growth is doing better than many people expected

0:50:40 > 0:50:45given all the uncertainties over the future path of the UK and Brexit,

0:50:45 > 0:50:50but there are no signs yet really of inflation building up. If anything,

0:50:50 > 0:50:53inflation is likely to fall. A stronger growth picture means the

0:50:53 > 0:50:59Bank of England might feel it has to raise interest rates once or twice

0:50:59 > 0:51:02over the course of the year just to keep things in check and make sure

0:51:02 > 0:51:07the economy does not overheat, but if you consider where interest rates

0:51:07 > 0:51:12are now compared to where they were headed the financial crisis, it is a

0:51:12 > 0:51:17very low level. Some relief perhaps for mortgage holders if you are a

0:51:17 > 0:51:21saver, don't expect a huge increase in your returns any time soon. The

0:51:21 > 0:51:26misery have seen over the last decade is likely to continue, I am

0:51:26 > 0:51:27afraid. Thank you for coming on the

0:51:27 > 0:51:31programme.

0:51:31 > 0:51:35Thank you for your many comments about the Conservative Remain

0:51:35 > 0:51:41supporting MP Anna Seabury and Olivia from Love Island. Christine

0:51:41 > 0:51:46says Brilliant, wonderful to watch as conversation. Such lovely honesty

0:51:46 > 0:51:49that took both women forward in their understanding.

0:51:49 > 0:51:53Jennifer said a very interesting dynamic, both were interested in the

0:51:53 > 0:51:57other's opinions even when there were signs of coming from different

0:51:57 > 0:52:01directions. They respected each of the's position. Interestingly, as

0:52:01 > 0:52:05the date went on their views converted, to some extent.

0:52:05 > 0:52:09Simon, since when did women are appearing on Big Brother, Love

0:52:09 > 0:52:16Island, the only way as Essex etc etc etc anything to do with women's

0:52:16 > 0:52:20suffrage? If anything these programmes have dragged Women's

0:52:20 > 0:52:27Equality Party centuries. Chuck says if you had shown interviews the --

0:52:27 > 0:52:33suffragettes the interview of Anna Soubry explaining politics to Olivia

0:52:33 > 0:52:37from Love Island, they would have thrown themselves under horses.

0:52:37 > 0:52:44Later we will speak to a 102-year-old on how things have

0:52:44 > 0:52:47changed. Jim readers here to update on the

0:52:47 > 0:52:50trial of Barry Bennell, the former football coach.

0:52:50 > 0:52:54This is the former football coach linked above Manchester City and

0:52:54 > 0:52:58Crewe Alexandra football clubs. He was accused of 48 counts of

0:52:58 > 0:53:06historical abuse against a living boys -- against 11 boys. That has

0:53:06 > 0:53:10been changed to 45 after the judge directed the jury to return not

0:53:10 > 0:53:16guilty verdicts on three of those offences. Mr Bernal denies the other

0:53:16 > 0:53:2045p. Yesterday, we had the closing speeches from Nicholas Johnson QC,

0:53:20 > 0:53:28the prosecution barrister in this case. He told Liverpool Crown Court

0:53:28 > 0:53:32that Mr Bennell had described his own house is a bit of a kids'

0:53:32 > 0:53:37paradise with pool table, arcade machines and exotic pets. --

0:53:37 > 0:53:41described his own house as. The prosecution said we suggest he is a

0:53:41 > 0:53:45child molester on an industrial scale, which is why he went to these

0:53:45 > 0:53:49lengths to get so many lads around his house. He told the jury that the

0:53:49 > 0:53:53alleged victims cared only about being a professional footballer. He

0:53:53 > 0:53:57said Barry Bennell knew that and exploited that.

0:53:57 > 0:54:00Mr Bennell decided not to give evidence in this trial, the

0:54:00 > 0:54:04prosecution referred to that as well in their closing arguments. The

0:54:04 > 0:54:08prosecution barrister said she will remember that Mr Bennell made

0:54:08 > 0:54:12repeated denials in interview, this is in police interview, backed up by

0:54:12 > 0:54:17a request to take a lie detector test. We have 12 lie detectors in

0:54:17 > 0:54:23this court, and I am looking at you, he said, referring to the jury. Mr

0:54:23 > 0:54:27Bennell is appearing in court via video link because of ill-health. He

0:54:27 > 0:54:32shook his head at times as the prosecutor 's book. The trial will

0:54:32 > 0:54:37continue today, Mr Bennell's defence barrister will deliver her speech.

0:54:37 > 0:54:43Thank you.-- he shook his head at times as the prosecutor spoke.

0:54:43 > 0:54:47Quentin Tarantino has opened up about his role in a car crash

0:54:47 > 0:54:54involving Uma Thurman on the set of one of his Kill Bill films. He

0:54:54 > 0:54:59called it the biggest regret of his life. Sinead Garvin is here. Uma

0:54:59 > 0:55:04Thurman spoke in an American newspaper adverts and pretty

0:55:04 > 0:55:08traumatic experience as well filming Kill Bill.She spoke about her

0:55:08 > 0:55:11relationship with Harvey Weinstein and this came up. The important

0:55:11 > 0:55:17thing to note is pulp fiction and the Kill Bill films whether

0:55:17 > 0:55:20Weinstein/ Tarantino/ Thurman, the three other making these very

0:55:20 > 0:55:26successful films. Weinstein said that Pulp Fiction was the reason he

0:55:26 > 0:55:32got his name. It is a very important relationship. She talks about her

0:55:32 > 0:55:36relationship with Weinstein but goes on to talk about the car crash which

0:55:36 > 0:55:41happened in 2002. You can see some footage now. Kill Bill volume one,

0:55:41 > 0:55:45she said at the time to Quentin Tarantino, who was directing, I

0:55:45 > 0:55:50don't want to get in the car, I want a stuntwoman. She says he got quite

0:55:50 > 0:55:55angry and said you can do it, it is safe, I had dinner myself, it is a

0:55:55 > 0:56:00straight road, you can do this. -- I have done it myself. She

0:56:00 > 0:56:07continuously said she did not feel safe. This crash happened 15 years

0:56:07 > 0:56:13ago and was covered up. She blames Harvey Weinstein.She was injured,

0:56:13 > 0:56:17damaged her knees, had to wear a neck brace?Permanent damage to her

0:56:17 > 0:56:24knees. She does not blame Tarantino, says he has been helpful in getting

0:56:24 > 0:56:27the footage back. She wanted 15 years ago, was not allowed, he went

0:56:27 > 0:56:32to his archives and got this footage. Following on from her

0:56:32 > 0:56:35interview in the New York Times, he has said he is deeply regretful, it

0:56:35 > 0:56:40is the biggest regret of his life. That she did the stunt? Ago that she

0:56:40 > 0:56:45got into the car. He says she only did it because she trusted him, you

0:56:45 > 0:56:50convinced it wassafe, and it was not. He is deeply regrettable and

0:56:50 > 0:56:55remains remorseful he gave her the footage to help with this article

0:56:55 > 0:57:00which she posted on social media. Reading some of the quotes from

0:57:00 > 0:57:04Tarantino, it is very interesting. He said I found the footage 15 years

0:57:04 > 0:57:06later, we went to storage facilities, I could not believe it,

0:57:06 > 0:57:11I did not think we would find it. It showed the crash and the aftermath

0:57:11 > 0:57:17and I was very happy to get it to Uma There was a feeling from the

0:57:17 > 0:57:24interview that perhaps he was getting in the way?It feels like

0:57:24 > 0:57:27Tarantino was caught up in the fire of all this when the New York Times

0:57:27 > 0:57:31article came out over the weekend. Everybody blame Tarantino for the

0:57:31 > 0:57:36crash and I think what Uma wanted is to say that obviously as director he

0:57:36 > 0:57:40was part of it and I got into the car because of him, but she blames

0:57:40 > 0:57:43the cover-up and everything that happened in the aftermath to Harvey

0:57:43 > 0:57:48Weinstein and the other producers. Thank you very much, Sinead.

0:57:48 > 0:57:52We will bring you the latest news and sport at 10am, but before that

0:57:52 > 0:57:55the weather. It is still freezing.

0:57:55 > 0:57:58and sport at 10am, but before that the weather. It is still freezing.

0:57:58 > 0:58:02Freezing am pretty snowy for some. Waking up to a covering of snow in

0:58:02 > 0:58:07Scotland. Snow falling across parts of north-west England. The band of

0:58:07 > 0:58:12snow is moving South and East across Wales. On this beach and Ceredigion

0:58:12 > 0:58:18we have had snow falling, even towards Cornwall some falling snow.

0:58:18 > 0:58:23This band of snow on the radar imagery is moving South and East,

0:58:23 > 0:58:27some wintry flurries across parts of the south-east of England and

0:58:27 > 0:58:31showers coming behind it across the far north and west. This is how we

0:58:31 > 0:58:36look for the rest of today, this area of snow continues to move into

0:58:36 > 0:58:38the Midlands, parts of East Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and the

0:58:38 > 0:58:43south-west. It is fizzing away, becoming much lighter into the

0:58:43 > 0:58:47afternoon. Good spells of Sunshine in the

0:58:47 > 0:58:50south-east, sunny spells across Scotland and Northern Ireland, heavy

0:58:50 > 0:58:54snow showers in the far north-west, the large rumble of thunder. Watch

0:58:54 > 0:58:58out for snow and ice across parts of eastern England this evening. That

0:58:58 > 0:59:03will move further south and east. As you can see by the blue, a

0:59:03 > 0:59:09widespread and hard frost tonight. Temperatures below freezing for us

0:59:09 > 0:59:14all. In the countryside it could be as low as -72 -11 Celsius over the

0:59:14 > 0:59:21snowfields of Scotland. A very cold start, it should be dry on Wednesday

0:59:21 > 0:59:25but then we look to the north-west and have an area of rain. A cold

0:59:25 > 0:59:31front and a warm front, in between those a wedge of mild air. As it

0:59:31 > 0:59:37moves and it will be mainly of rain on Wednesday, ahead of the cold air

0:59:37 > 0:59:40sitting in place across England and Wales.

0:59:40 > 0:59:44A cold and frosty start, eventually the rain moves into Scotland and

0:59:44 > 0:59:48Northern Ireland. It will fall of snow over the higher ground, down to

0:59:48 > 0:59:53low levels it will be mainly rain. Increasing cloud in the north-west,

0:59:53 > 0:59:58down towards the south-east it will be try. Temperatures two to 4

0:59:58 > 1:00:03degrees, feeling pretty chilly on Wednesday, but the mild air will

1:00:03 > 1:00:07move further south and east would, all with the weather front, meaning

1:00:07 > 1:00:10on Thursday there will be quite a bit of cloud for many, some

1:00:10 > 1:00:15outbreaks of rain throughout the day across northern England, Wales and

1:00:15 > 1:00:17the south-west. Some dry weather towards the

1:00:17 > 1:00:22north-west. Temperatures will be up, five to even 10 Celsius in the

1:00:22 > 1:00:28south-west. It gets chilly again on Friday and into the weekend.

1:00:28 > 1:00:30Hello. It's Tuesday, the 6th of February.

1:00:30 > 1:00:31It's 10am. I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:00:31 > 1:00:33It's the 100th anniversary of women getting the vote,

1:00:33 > 1:00:35and there are calls this morning for a posthumous pardon

1:00:35 > 1:00:38for the women who were imprisoned for the cause.

1:00:38 > 1:00:42Campaigners say the move would be a fitting tribute.

1:00:42 > 1:00:49A large number of people in prominent positions have made the

1:00:49 > 1:00:51amazing discovery, really amazing, that women could do routine

1:00:51 > 1:00:55engineering jobs.

1:00:55 > 1:00:57They could collect tickets at railway stations and act

1:00:57 > 1:01:02as bus conductors, they never thought it was possible before.

1:01:02 > 1:01:06And this made them really feel that at long last

1:01:06 > 1:01:14ought to have the vote.

1:01:16 > 1:01:20Katie Price will give evidence to MPs as she calls for online trolls

1:01:20 > 1:01:25to be put on a register of offenders. We speak to a mum whose

1:01:25 > 1:01:33son took his own life after being trolled online.

1:01:33 > 1:01:36trolled online. If you think At The Races evict offence for online abuse

1:01:36 > 1:01:40would stop people trolling.

1:01:40 > 1:01:43And fresh from his victory yesterday in the High Court

1:01:43 > 1:01:45which blocked his extradition to the United States

1:01:45 > 1:01:48to face charges of hacking into the FBI, US Army and Nasa -

1:01:48 > 1:01:56we speak to Lauri Love and finds out what's next for him.

1:01:58 > 1:02:04Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

1:02:04 > 1:02:07The value of some of Asia's biggest companies have plunged in response

1:02:07 > 1:02:12to big falls in the United States.

1:02:12 > 1:02:15In New York, the Dow Jones closed down more than 1100 points,

1:02:15 > 1:02:16the biggest one day fall in history.

1:02:16 > 1:02:19This morning the FTSE 100 crashed by more than 200 points -

1:02:19 > 1:02:21its lowest level since late 2016.

1:02:21 > 1:02:23Investment director Jane Sydenham says the drop wasn't

1:02:23 > 1:02:24completely unexpected.

1:02:24 > 1:02:27This is really in response to a jobs report last week which kind

1:02:27 > 1:02:29of indicated that wages were rising a bit faster than everybody

1:02:29 > 1:02:32was expecting, and the implication from that is that interest rates

1:02:32 > 1:02:35have to rise faster too, which stock markets really don't like.

1:02:35 > 1:02:38So in the last 15 months, we've had no more than a 3%

1:02:38 > 1:02:43correction in stock markets, which is very, very unusual.

1:02:43 > 1:02:49So at some point, it was likely we were going to see a bit

1:02:49 > 1:02:51more volatility anyway.

1:02:51 > 1:02:54It is really very unusual for markets to have been quite

1:02:54 > 1:02:59as calm as they have been.

1:02:59 > 1:03:02The Conservative MP and leading Remain campaigner, Anna Soubry,

1:03:02 > 1:03:04has called on Theresa May to "sling out" what she called

1:03:04 > 1:03:05"hard Brexiteers" in the party.

1:03:05 > 1:03:08In an interview for the BBC, she said that the frontbench

1:03:08 > 1:03:10was "in hock" to 35 ideological Leave supporters.

1:03:10 > 1:03:13She insisted she would not stay in a party taken over by people

1:03:13 > 1:03:19like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson.

1:03:19 > 1:03:21Campaigners are proposing that women who were jailed while fighting

1:03:21 > 1:03:24for the right to vote, should be pardoned.

1:03:24 > 1:03:27Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has joined

1:03:27 > 1:03:30with the Fawcett Society Campaign Group and relatives

1:03:30 > 1:03:33of the Suffragettes in calling for convictions to be overturned.

1:03:33 > 1:03:35It comes on the 100th anniversary of some women

1:03:35 > 1:03:39getting the vote in the UK.

1:03:39 > 1:03:43Relatives of the victims of the 1982 IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

1:03:43 > 1:03:49granted legal aid for a civil action against a suspect.

1:03:49 > 1:03:51A case against the convicted IRA member,

1:03:51 > 1:03:53John Downey, collapsed at the Old Bailey four years ago

1:03:53 > 1:03:56because he had a so-called "on the run" letter telling him

1:03:56 > 1:03:59he was no longer a wanted man and wouldn't be prosecuted.

1:03:59 > 1:04:06A judge will rule later today on a request by the WikiLeaks

1:04:06 > 1:04:08founder, Julian Assange, to drop a warrant for his arrest.

1:04:08 > 1:04:11He's been living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for more

1:04:11 > 1:04:12than five years to avoid deportation to Sweden.

1:04:12 > 1:04:15Julian Assange believes he will be extradited to the United States

1:04:15 > 1:04:17if he leaves the embassy, for questioning about

1:04:17 > 1:04:18the activities of WikiLeaks.

1:04:18 > 1:04:26Public Health England says it wants e-cigarettes to be prescribed

1:04:30 > 1:04:33on the NHS within the next two to three years because they says

1:04:33 > 1:04:35they're an effective way to help smokers quit.

1:04:35 > 1:04:38The agency has reviewed the latest evidence and says vaping poses only

1:04:38 > 1:04:40a small fraction of the risk of smoking tobacco.

1:04:40 > 1:04:42It's calling for the UK's drug regulator to help manufacturers

1:04:42 > 1:04:43get their products approved.

1:04:43 > 1:04:46That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10:30.

1:04:46 > 1:04:48Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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1:04:52 > 1:04:59Here's some sport now with Sarah.

1:04:59 > 1:05:01The pressure is mounting on Chelsea boss Antonio Conte -

1:05:01 > 1:05:09They were beaten 4-1 away at struggling Watford,

1:05:09 > 1:05:12They are fourth, a point clear of Tottenham in fifth. Nerves got to

1:05:12 > 1:05:18them. Tim Liu Wei Bakayoko was sent off after a second yellow card.

1:05:18 > 1:05:22Chelsea conceded a penalty that Troy Deeney converted. Eden Hazard

1:05:22 > 1:05:27equalised eight minutes before time before Watford went on a scoring

1:05:27 > 1:05:34spree, scoring another three goals. A first home win for Javi Gracia.

1:05:34 > 1:05:38Watford now six points of the drop. Chelsea were poor but Owen Tonio on

1:05:38 > 1:05:42to was insistent that he is definitely not worried about his

1:05:42 > 1:05:46job.

1:05:46 > 1:05:53I'm not worried. I'm not worried about my job. I work every day and I

1:05:53 > 1:06:00give 120%. If this is enough, it's OK. Otherwise, the club can take a

1:06:00 > 1:06:07different decision, but I'm not worried. Every day, every press

1:06:07 > 1:06:10conference, you ask me, "Are you worried about your job?" No, I'm not

1:06:10 > 1:06:11worried.

1:06:11 > 1:06:14The Winter Olympics begin on Friday, but 32 Russian athletes have

1:06:14 > 1:06:17appealed against their exclusion.

1:06:17 > 1:06:20They include those that have their life bans lifted by the Court of

1:06:20 > 1:06:27Arbitration for Sport last week. D3 Russians banned for life following

1:06:27 > 1:06:36-- 43. Back in Prydie 14. 28 were overturned last Thursday. The IOC

1:06:36 > 1:06:40turned down a request for 13 of the 28 and two coaches to compete.

1:06:40 > 1:06:45Hearings will take place on Wednesday. The International Olympic

1:06:45 > 1:06:49Committee has come under attack Fullerton Russian athlete compete as

1:06:49 > 1:06:55neutrals at their conference in Pyongyang. The chairman said the 168

1:06:55 > 1:06:59Olympic athletes from Russia have every right to compete, but Dick

1:06:59 > 1:07:02Pound, the man that Randy anti-doping agency said it sends the

1:07:02 > 1:07:06wrong message. Mr President, we are in trouble now.

1:07:06 > 1:07:09We need to make it clear to the world that our decisions and actions

1:07:09 > 1:07:15are based on principles that distinguish the Olympic movement

1:07:15 > 1:07:18from entertainment sports. We're not talking about politics, no matter

1:07:18 > 1:07:22what anyone says, we are talking about how we respond to attacks on

1:07:22 > 1:07:27fundamental values by a country that voluntarily agreed to respect those

1:07:27 > 1:07:32values, and which then deliberately attempted to destroy them.

1:07:32 > 1:07:34And Maddie Hinch has been named best female hockey goalkeeper

1:07:34 > 1:07:36for the second year in a row.

1:07:36 > 1:07:41She was part of the GB Olympic winning team in Rio and last year

1:07:41 > 1:07:45helped England win bronze in both the EuroHockey Championships

1:07:45 > 1:07:49and World League.

1:07:49 > 1:07:52Finally, the star of the Super Bowl has made the traditional trip to

1:07:52 > 1:07:56Disney World. Quarterback Jacob Faulds was voted the Super Bowl's

1:07:56 > 1:08:02MVP for his part in the Philadelphia Eagles's win over New England

1:08:02 > 1:08:06Patriot. If that was not enough, he got to meet Mickey Mouse at the

1:08:06 > 1:08:13Magic Kingdom in Florida. That is your sport, I suppose, for now.

1:08:13 > 1:08:15An engineering student, who has Asperger's,

1:08:15 > 1:08:19says he's greatly relieved after the High Court

1:08:19 > 1:08:21blocked his extradition to the United States on charges

1:08:21 > 1:08:23of hacking into computers belonging to the FBI,

1:08:23 > 1:08:25the US army and NASA.

1:08:25 > 1:08:27The judges decided that sending Lauri Love to America would bring

1:08:27 > 1:08:29on severe depression, and could lead to suicide.

1:08:29 > 1:08:37Instead, he'll be prosecuted here instead.

1:08:38 > 1:08:42Good morning and thank you for talking to us. You have been

1:08:42 > 1:08:45fighting extradition to the US since 2015, what is it like to be free of

1:08:45 > 1:08:53that threat?It is sinking in, but so far, greatly relieved, and

1:08:53 > 1:08:57joyous, I am thankful and grateful for the support I have had.When you

1:08:57 > 1:09:01woke up this morning, did it take a few seconds for it to sink in?Yes!

1:09:01 > 1:09:05I didn't have many seconds, because I had to rush in and to you, and

1:09:05 > 1:09:09that will be the case for weeks to come. I have a future I can plan

1:09:09 > 1:09:14now, which is nice.You won your appeal because the judges said, "We

1:09:14 > 1:09:17have come to the conclusion that you're extradition would be

1:09:17 > 1:09:21oppressive I've reason of your physical and mental condition."

1:09:21 > 1:09:25Could you give some insight into your Asperger's and your depression

1:09:25 > 1:09:32for our audience? And how do those conditions affect you?I have

1:09:32 > 1:09:36Asperger's, a form of autism. Autism is a different way of your brain

1:09:36 > 1:09:40being a brain, a different way of being wired, perhaps. The difficulty

1:09:40 > 1:09:46is, society is yet to fully understand and accommodate autism

1:09:46 > 1:09:50outside of prison, but especially inside prison, which is a difficult

1:09:50 > 1:09:53environment at the best of times. Especially for somebody with autism,

1:09:53 > 1:10:00it is likely they will have more hardship there. Someone that suffers

1:10:00 > 1:10:02from clinical depression, especially in the United States, where they

1:10:02 > 1:10:06cannot well accommodate these things, there is a strong likelihood

1:10:06 > 1:10:13in my case that it would lead to suicide. I am thankful that the

1:10:13 > 1:10:19ruling spoke to the conditions in the United States, which leave a lot

1:10:19 > 1:10:24to be desired, relative to here in the UK.If you had been sent there,

1:10:24 > 1:10:28do you think that would have happened? You would have tried to...

1:10:28 > 1:10:31I didn't entertain any hopes that there was light at the end of the

1:10:31 > 1:10:36tunnel. The main difference is, in the UK, the maximum prison sentence

1:10:36 > 1:10:39would be about 36 months. Indian the night of states, they wanted to lock

1:10:39 > 1:10:43me up to 99 years. You don't have any hope when you think you are

1:10:43 > 1:10:47spending the rest of your life in prison. In oppressive and inhumane

1:10:47 > 1:10:54conditions.They also went on to say this, "We emphasise it would not be

1:10:54 > 1:11:01oppressive to prosecute Mr Love in the United Kingdom

1:11:01 > 1:11:08the United Kingdom for the..."The strange case of fighting to be

1:11:08 > 1:11:10prosecuted, there could be double jeopardy in the United States,

1:11:10 > 1:11:14extraditing me to another country in future. I would like to be able to

1:11:14 > 1:11:18visit my sister who has had a baby recently in Finland.You want to be

1:11:18 > 1:11:23charged by the CPS.I very much want to be charged by the CPS, that

1:11:23 > 1:11:28should have happened in 2013. The National crime agency could have

1:11:28 > 1:11:35pressed charges, I could have been trialled or acquitted and I could be

1:11:35 > 1:11:38getting on with my life.What is confusing to some people, the

1:11:38 > 1:11:47alleged defences were -- offences were committed in America.I have

1:11:47 > 1:11:51never been to America.As a human being... The criminal damage, the

1:11:51 > 1:11:56alleged criminal damage was in America.The effects were felt in

1:11:56 > 1:11:59America, but the problem with the Internet is we have to learned to

1:11:59 > 1:12:02come operate on prosecuting criminal wrongdoing online, and at the

1:12:02 > 1:12:06moment, the United States approach is to say, we can exercise our

1:12:06 > 1:12:10jurisdiction across the globe. No other country gets to do that, not

1:12:10 > 1:12:15even the UK. The United States, if they feel they are victims, through

1:12:15 > 1:12:19mutual legal assistance facilitate a prosecution in the UK, hopefully

1:12:19 > 1:12:23that is what happens now.You might remember the cyber attack that took

1:12:23 > 1:12:30down the NHS or parts of the NHS last year, various GPs and hospital

1:12:30 > 1:12:33appointments were completely disrupted. It was serious. I wonder

1:12:33 > 1:12:39if right minded people would think that if the person responsible was

1:12:39 > 1:12:43caught overseas that we should have the ability to extradite them to

1:12:43 > 1:12:46Britain and charge them and prosecute them in this country where

1:12:46 > 1:12:52the alleged damage was caused.Sure. Some of the most serious effects

1:12:52 > 1:12:57were felt in the UK. Because of the NHS being affected, there were

1:12:57 > 1:13:01damages in every country on the planet. A case would have to be made

1:13:01 > 1:13:08that the United Kingdom has special privilege to prosecute here. I was

1:13:08 > 1:13:11involved in a volunteer effort to mitigate the damage in response to

1:13:11 > 1:13:17that. It is the most serious cyber incident that has occurred to date.

1:13:17 > 1:13:21The correct approach to insecurity is to engineer more secure systems.

1:13:21 > 1:13:27You can't scare people out of taking advantage of insecurities. We must

1:13:27 > 1:13:31prosecute people who have broken the law, the best way to avoid incidents

1:13:31 > 1:13:36like that is to build more secure systems, and something that I hope

1:13:36 > 1:13:40to help with.You are accused of hacking into major systems in the U

1:13:40 > 1:13:43S, accused of feeling sensitive data, what do you have to say about

1:13:43 > 1:13:48what you are accused of?I am still waiting to be charged. When I am

1:13:48 > 1:13:53charged in the UK, I will be able to see the evidence against me and form

1:13:53 > 1:13:56a defence, but it's improper in terms of due process to comment on

1:13:56 > 1:13:59allegations when they haven't been turned into charges and when the

1:13:59 > 1:14:03legal process hasn't run through, we will see what happens when I have a

1:14:03 > 1:14:06day in court.It is not inevitable

1:14:06 > 1:14:08will see what happens when I have a day in court.It is not inevitable,

1:14:08 > 1:14:12the CPS may look at the evidence and decide it is not in the public

1:14:12 > 1:14:15interest or any other number of reasons.That would be unfortunate

1:14:15 > 1:14:19for me, because it would be a similar situation to Gary McKinnon,

1:14:19 > 1:14:24where his extradition was blocked by Theresa May. As a result, he can't

1:14:24 > 1:14:27leave the country because the United States may issue extradition

1:14:27 > 1:14:30perceiving some any other country. I will do my utmost to facilitate my

1:14:30 > 1:14:36own prosecution, as Kafkaesque as that may sound, so I can get closure

1:14:36 > 1:14:41and carry on with my constructive work in security.He said yesterday

1:14:41 > 1:14:45he wanted your case to set a president so that other hacking

1:14:45 > 1:14:51suspects could be tried here, rather than the US, why is that imports and

1:14:51 > 1:15:00-- aborted you?The main issue is two or three things, it is coercive

1:15:00 > 1:15:03plea bargaining, 97% of people do not have a trial because they are

1:15:03 > 1:15:13bullied into taking a plea deal. The charging can be so different. 99

1:15:13 > 1:15:16years in prison is in no way reasonable for the alleged

1:15:16 > 1:15:21offending. If somebody has committed wrongdoing, they should be taken to

1:15:21 > 1:15:23court, but people have an understanding of the legal system

1:15:23 > 1:15:27that they live in, the punishments for different types of

1:15:27 > 1:15:31transgressions, and they shouldn't be subject to the processes of a

1:15:31 > 1:15:35foreign legal system.

1:15:35 > 1:15:40Lisa says she is so happy to see Lauri Love winning his extradition

1:15:40 > 1:15:44appeal. The street from Albert, I want agree Lauri Love should not be

1:15:44 > 1:15:46extradited but should be prosecuted in the UK.

1:15:46 > 1:15:48extradited but should be prosecuted in the UK. Joe says you are a lovely

1:15:48 > 1:15:55guy.That's really nice.What impact would you say the last Trott when

1:15:55 > 1:16:00did the start, 2012?2013.You got a knock on the door from the police.

1:16:00 > 1:16:05What impact has this last five years had on you and your family?I feel

1:16:05 > 1:16:09worse for my parents, it is hard to imagine losing your child, them

1:16:09 > 1:16:12being taken away to another country and potentially never seeing them

1:16:12 > 1:16:16again. I am really regretful of the stress and anxiety it has caused

1:16:16 > 1:16:21them. For me, personally, I didn't sleep very well, I have had very

1:16:21 > 1:16:24severe depression, weeks at a time where I have been suicidal, which is

1:16:24 > 1:16:30very morbid to talk about. I have eczema which results in me clawing

1:16:30 > 1:16:34my face open, which is not great. Every bit of my digestive tract is

1:16:34 > 1:16:40inflamed. I am hoping now that the stress will go down I will recover

1:16:40 > 1:16:44some of my health and be able to be more productive. I have just

1:16:44 > 1:16:47restarted my electrical engineering studies but it has been very

1:16:47 > 1:16:51difficult to concentrate and I hope things will be easier after today.

1:16:51 > 1:16:57The US has 14 days to appeal this decision, it is not quite over. Are

1:16:57 > 1:17:03you worried about that or stoical?I do not begrudge their prerogative to

1:17:03 > 1:17:16appeal, I would like to have exercised it if we had lost.

1:17:17 > 1:17:20It is intended to them, they would have to make a case and it would be

1:17:20 > 1:17:22decided on the merits of their argument whether the appeal is

1:17:22 > 1:17:25heard. It would be nice not to have to go through another year, year on

1:17:25 > 1:17:28top of legal struggles. It has been a long way to get here but if we too

1:17:28 > 1:17:31much marching a few more miles, we will get there.Do you describe

1:17:31 > 1:17:33yourself as a hacker?Absolutely. Does it have a positive connotation

1:17:33 > 1:17:40for you?Yes, absolutely. In the media it is often connoted with

1:17:40 > 1:17:43criminality, but in the technology community hackers take things apart

1:17:43 > 1:17:48and put things together differently, we need them and their mindset of

1:17:48 > 1:17:54troubleshooting and problem solving to helpers adapt to an Internet age.

1:17:54 > 1:17:57I have tried to find people with an aptitude and a skill who have not

1:17:57 > 1:18:01gone into the vocation in the usual routes, they may have done silly

1:18:01 > 1:18:05things or might be tempted to. If I can channel them into constructive

1:18:05 > 1:18:10contributions to society, there will be great. We have a huge security

1:18:10 > 1:18:13problem, a massive skills shortfall, there are people out there who could

1:18:13 > 1:18:16help. So what do you say to hackers out

1:18:16 > 1:18:23there who see it as a challenge, potentially, to break into

1:18:23 > 1:18:26government computer systems?If you want a challenge, there are ways you

1:18:26 > 1:18:30can be challenged and ways you can feel the exhilaration of breaking a

1:18:30 > 1:18:35system without incurring the potential and tonne ordeals and

1:18:35 > 1:18:38hardships of the criminal prosecution. I would not wish this

1:18:38 > 1:18:42and anybody and I would not advise anyone to put themselves in a

1:18:42 > 1:18:45situation where they might have to go through this. That said, I

1:18:45 > 1:18:50believe people should be able to protest online, which might involve

1:18:50 > 1:18:54active civil disobedience. It needs be done with great care,

1:18:54 > 1:18:57consideration and responsibility. Thank you for coming on the

1:18:57 > 1:19:00programme.It is an absolute pressure.

1:19:00 > 1:19:06We will continue to follow Lauri Love's story, as we have done over

1:19:06 > 1:19:12the next Tameka last few years. Still to come... -- over the last

1:19:12 > 1:19:14few years. Still to come...

1:19:14 > 1:19:15Should e-cigs be prescribed on the NHS?

1:19:15 > 1:19:18Public Health England think that they should as they say

1:19:18 > 1:19:21they are a great way of getting people to quit smoking.

1:19:21 > 1:19:22Do you think they're right?

1:19:22 > 1:19:24Have e-cigs helped you to quit? Let us know.

1:19:24 > 1:19:27Katie Price is giving evidence to MPs today as she calls for online

1:19:27 > 1:19:30abuse to be made into a specific offence with a register

1:19:30 > 1:19:31of offenders.

1:19:31 > 1:19:33MPs triggered an inquiry after Katie Price started a petition

1:19:33 > 1:19:35which has received nearly quarter of a million signatures.

1:19:35 > 1:19:37Her 15-year-old son Harvey - who is partially blind,

1:19:37 > 1:19:40autistic and has Prader-Willi syndrome - has been subject

1:19:40 > 1:19:42to online abuse for most of his life, regularly receiving

1:19:42 > 1:19:44abuse that is not only grossly offensive but also racist

1:19:44 > 1:19:52and showing prejudice against his disabilty and weight.

1:19:55 > 1:19:59We were due to speak to Katie Price this morning, but unfortunately she

1:19:59 > 1:20:06has had to pull out at the last moment.

1:20:06 > 1:20:07Let's talk to Dr Rachel O'Connell,

1:20:07 > 1:20:10who is a child internet safety expert that has worked

1:20:10 > 1:20:11for social media companies.

1:20:11 > 1:20:13Callum Carr has faced trolling from anonymous strangers online.

1:20:13 > 1:20:15Lucy Alexander's teenage son Felix suffered years of online abuse

1:20:15 > 1:20:18and took his own life last year - she doesn't think Katie Price's

1:20:18 > 1:20:25solution of naming and shaming is the answer.

1:20:25 > 1:20:29Lucy, may I begin with you? Thank you so much for talking to us. Tell

1:20:29 > 1:20:36us what you think of this idea of a database?I think it is very

1:20:36 > 1:20:40difficult to criminalise an activity like this, particularly if it is

1:20:40 > 1:20:43children who are the perpetrators. If you criminalise them, you will

1:20:43 > 1:20:48never find a solution to the problem. I can understand if it is

1:20:48 > 1:20:53an adult who is the perpetrator, because you have to take

1:20:53 > 1:20:57responsibility and face consequences for your actions, but the majority

1:20:57 > 1:21:03of the abuse that my son got was from other children. I don't

1:21:03 > 1:21:07actually believe that children are inherently bad, but I think

1:21:07 > 1:21:10sometimes they don't make the connections between their activity

1:21:10 > 1:21:15and the consequences of that.So would you support a database for

1:21:15 > 1:21:23those over 18?Possibly. I think it is a very, very complex situation. I

1:21:23 > 1:21:27think if we are ever going to eradicate it, we need to give people

1:21:27 > 1:21:37a way back. I think if you can't see any forgiveness for what she do, I

1:21:37 > 1:21:42do not think there is a way back. It depends on individual situations, I

1:21:42 > 1:21:47cannot comment too broadly on something like that.Are you able to

1:21:47 > 1:21:52tell our audience a little bit about the abuse your son was subjected to?

1:21:52 > 1:21:59It was from the age of about 13 onwards, he got daily abuse from

1:21:59 > 1:22:03other children generally, some he knew, some he didn't, some people

1:22:03 > 1:22:08who just joined in as a group activity. It was anything from

1:22:08 > 1:22:12telling him he was ugly and unwanted, nobody liked him, he was

1:22:12 > 1:22:20worthless. There was a racist abuse because he is half Indian. At its

1:22:20 > 1:22:25worst, he was told to kill himself. How have you coped with the fact

1:22:25 > 1:22:33that he did take his own life?The only way I can cope is by trying to

1:22:33 > 1:22:41give him a voice now, trying to help children make those connections

1:22:41 > 1:22:45between online abuse and real-life abuse and make the connections that

1:22:45 > 1:22:52that actions have consequences and trying to educate.Let me bring in

1:22:52 > 1:22:59Rachel and Callum, if I may. What do you think of Katie Price's idea of a

1:22:59 > 1:23:07register of trolls? A bloke I would concur with the view --I would

1:23:07 > 1:23:12concur with the view that as a parent must be very traumatic to

1:23:12 > 1:23:16have someone this treat your son, there is a visual reaction but it is

1:23:16 > 1:23:20a complexity. Often when people are bullying there is something in their

1:23:20 > 1:23:24own lives which causes them to do that. There is a diffusion of

1:23:24 > 1:23:27responsibility when kids get together and think something is

1:23:27 > 1:23:29hilarious and they do not get those connections.

1:23:29 > 1:23:34But it is not just kids, it is grown men and women in their front rooms,

1:23:34 > 1:23:39bedrooms, cars, typing out...When it comes to adults I think

1:23:39 > 1:23:44legislation is something we should look at. If you look at

1:23:44 > 1:23:47relationships, we have recently had legislation introduced to prevent

1:23:47 > 1:23:51coercive control in marriages and partnerships, there is an equivalent

1:23:51 > 1:23:55here. If you will make somebody's life a misery and make them worry

1:23:55 > 1:24:01about their personal safety, there should be consequences.But we had

1:24:01 > 1:24:04legislation against malicious Communications, threatening

1:24:04 > 1:24:09behaviour, inciting other people to violence. Is that not enough? What

1:24:09 > 1:24:14about Katie Price's idea of a specific offence of online abuse?

1:24:14 > 1:24:19She met with John Whittingdale yesterday and Stella Creasy, a Tory

1:24:19 > 1:24:24and a Labour MP. Both are of the view that it is worth looking at the

1:24:24 > 1:24:28legislation to review it and see what scope there is. It is a complex

1:24:28 > 1:24:32issue. And the longevity of having your name on a register, there are

1:24:32 > 1:24:35problems around that and issues around freedom of speech. It is

1:24:35 > 1:24:41complex and intricate but there is no harm in reviewing the

1:24:41 > 1:24:46legislation.Is it complex, Calum?I think it is a complex subject and

1:24:46 > 1:24:51situation. I do not condone the campaign to create a register for

1:24:51 > 1:24:55those under school leaving age, anyone over that age, I think they

1:24:55 > 1:24:58are responsible to take responsibility for their own actions

1:24:58 > 1:25:03and I think a register... It should be criminalised online abuse for

1:25:03 > 1:25:09those over a certain age. So you partially support what Katie

1:25:09 > 1:25:14Price suggests. Without using any offensive language that might upset

1:25:14 > 1:25:17perhaps children watching or other members of the audience, what kind

1:25:17 > 1:25:22of things were said to you and in what form?Most recently I got a

1:25:22 > 1:25:28tweet after I did a regional BBC News interview about malicious

1:25:28 > 1:25:35communication and it was a grown adult who treated me, calling me a

1:25:35 > 1:25:41stupid queer C-word. They do not know me, they judge me from an

1:25:41 > 1:25:45interview I had done. I could tell was a fake profile.How did you know

1:25:45 > 1:25:50it was a grown adult?The context they have put it in. For somebody at

1:25:50 > 1:25:55the time of day that it was to be able to the Twitter account and take

1:25:55 > 1:25:58the time out of their day at the time of day it was, I pretty much

1:25:58 > 1:26:03knew it was an adult. You don't know. You say a database

1:26:03 > 1:26:07database for those over 18, maybe that brings in the complexity, it

1:26:07 > 1:26:12might be difficult to track them down and then you find out they are

1:26:12 > 1:26:16a 16-year-old on a day off sick because they're waiting to do their

1:26:16 > 1:26:21GCSEs, what would you do with that person?We need a culture change in

1:26:21 > 1:26:27terms of how we address on-line interactions, 50% of three to

1:26:27 > 1:26:32five-year-olds and 90% of eight to 11-year-olds are online. There is a

1:26:32 > 1:26:37concern, we need to consider these issues. There is a new technical

1:26:37 > 1:26:41standard that has been written that describes how you can conduct age

1:26:41 > 1:26:45checks and get verified parental consent so that a parent can be in

1:26:45 > 1:26:50control of where their child is accessing content. That would enable

1:26:50 > 1:26:53businesses to serve content to people that is appropriate for their

1:26:53 > 1:26:56ages and create a culture where people have respect for one another

1:26:56 > 1:27:03and have education in schools and on TV about appropriate behaviour

1:27:03 > 1:27:08online. Be kind to one another. Let me bring Lucy back-in, and I

1:27:08 > 1:27:15will ask Rachel, because she has worked for social media companies.

1:27:15 > 1:27:19After your son took his life after horrific abuse for so many years,

1:27:19 > 1:27:25where do you think social media companies sit?They need to take

1:27:25 > 1:27:30some responsibility.What does that mean, practically?One of the things

1:27:30 > 1:27:36I have been working with the cyber bullying tax force from the Royal

1:27:36 > 1:27:40foundation is getting men to put in support networks, getting them to

1:27:40 > 1:27:47advocate education programmes so that we breed a new culture of

1:27:47 > 1:27:52kindness and responsibility online. They have tablet Ferreyra bust

1:27:52 > 1:28:00reporting and blocking system so that children feel safe, they need

1:28:00 > 1:28:03immediate responses. They can be days and days in the process,

1:28:03 > 1:28:08otherwise you have lost it. Children live in a very immediate world and

1:28:08 > 1:28:12need immediate actions to their problems. An online support system,

1:28:12 > 1:28:16I think, is very important across media platforms.

1:28:16 > 1:28:20You have worked for social media companies, they have made progress,

1:28:20 > 1:28:26they would say, in employing more people to moderates, boosting their

1:28:26 > 1:28:32systems for blocking and so on. What else do they need to do?Considers

1:28:32 > 1:28:36the regulatory oversight. The mobile operators are covered by the

1:28:36 > 1:28:42telecommunications act. If you are upset about something, you have been

1:28:42 > 1:28:46overcharged etc, how they handle your complaint Andrew Porter... If

1:28:46 > 1:28:52you are an happy, you can contact Ofcom. You can go to the mobile

1:28:52 > 1:28:55operators and ask the recorded messages, show me your training

1:28:55 > 1:28:59mechanisms, if they are not up to scratch, they can be fined. Vodafone

1:28:59 > 1:29:05was recently fined 4.6 million. We do not have the same regulatory

1:29:05 > 1:29:11oversight for social media platforms.They say they are not

1:29:11 > 1:29:14publishers, just a platform?When Callum was submitting reports about

1:29:14 > 1:29:21what happened to him, how do we know they were handled correctly.You

1:29:21 > 1:29:29complained, and...?When I was 13, I was targeted on social media.I was

1:29:29 > 1:29:34called buck-toothed, goofy, spotty because of my personal appearance. I

1:29:34 > 1:29:40reported those in school and to my parents and nothing happened. I

1:29:40 > 1:29:45reported them on social media and that was the end of it. With

1:29:45 > 1:29:49anonymous questions being asked, you don't know who it is. I used to go

1:29:49 > 1:29:52into school and sit next to people in school and think it could be that

1:29:52 > 1:29:57person sitting next to me, which causes mind games and gets the trust

1:29:57 > 1:30:02barrier up for you at such a young age. When you are so young, you are

1:30:02 > 1:30:05vulnerable, you're going through hormones and it can be a difficult

1:30:05 > 1:30:08time. Thank you very much. We will see

1:30:08 > 1:30:12what happens when MPs take evidence from Katie Price. We appreciate all

1:30:12 > 1:30:15of your time and input.

1:30:15 > 1:30:21100 years ago today, women got the vote, how much has changed for women

1:30:21 > 1:30:27since that act was passed. Later we talked to Greta, who is 102, about

1:30:27 > 1:30:32the changes she has seen.

1:30:32 > 1:30:35In the battle to help people give up smoking Public Health England have

1:30:35 > 1:30:37suggested that e cigs are prescribed on the NHS.

1:30:37 > 1:30:40Do you think it's a good idea?

1:30:40 > 1:30:45Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

1:30:45 > 1:30:48The value of some of Asia's biggest companies have plunged in response

1:30:48 > 1:30:50to big falls in the United States.

1:30:50 > 1:30:53In New York, the Dow Jones closed down more than 1100 points,

1:30:53 > 1:30:55the biggest one day fall in history.

1:30:55 > 1:30:59This morning the FTSE 100 crashed by more than 200 points -

1:30:59 > 1:31:05its lowest level since late 2016.

1:31:05 > 1:31:07Investment director Jane Sydenham says the drop wasn't

1:31:07 > 1:31:08completely unexpected.

1:31:08 > 1:31:11This is really in response to a jobs report last week which kind

1:31:11 > 1:31:14of indicated that wages were rising a bit faster than everybody

1:31:14 > 1:31:17was expecting, and the implication from that is that interest rates

1:31:17 > 1:31:23have to rise faster too, which stock markets really don't like.

1:31:23 > 1:31:26So in the last 15 months, we've had no more than a 3%

1:31:26 > 1:31:29correction in stock markets, which is very, very unusual.

1:31:29 > 1:31:32So at some point, it was likely we were going to see a bit

1:31:32 > 1:31:36more volatility anyway.

1:31:36 > 1:31:38It is really very unusual for markets to have been quite

1:31:38 > 1:31:44as calm as they have been.

1:31:44 > 1:31:48The Conservative MP and leading Remain campaigner Anna Soubry has

1:31:48 > 1:31:51called on Theresa May to "sling out" what she called

1:31:51 > 1:31:52"hard Brexiteers" in the party.

1:31:52 > 1:31:54In an interview for the BBC, she said that the frontbench

1:31:54 > 1:31:56was "in hock" to 35 ideological Leave supporters.

1:31:56 > 1:32:00She insisted she would not stay in a party taken over by people

1:32:00 > 1:32:02like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson.

1:32:02 > 1:32:05Campaigners are proposing that women who were jailed while fighting

1:32:05 > 1:32:07for the right to vote, should be pardoned.

1:32:07 > 1:32:11Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has joined

1:32:11 > 1:32:13with the Fawcett Society Campaign Group and relatives

1:32:13 > 1:32:15of the Suffragettes in calling for convictions to be overturned.

1:32:15 > 1:32:17It comes on the 100th anniversary of some women

1:32:17 > 1:32:22getting the vote in the UK.

1:32:22 > 1:32:26Relatives of the victims of the 1982 IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

1:32:26 > 1:32:33granted legal aid for a civil action against a suspect.

1:32:33 > 1:32:36A case against the convicted IRA member

1:32:36 > 1:32:38John Downey collapsed at the Old Bailey four years ago

1:32:38 > 1:32:41because he had a so-called "on the run" letter telling him

1:32:41 > 1:32:43he was no longer a wanted man and wouldn't be prosecuted.

1:32:43 > 1:32:46A judge will rule later today on a request by the WikiLeaks

1:32:46 > 1:32:49founder, Julian Assange, to drop a warrant for his arrest.

1:32:49 > 1:32:52He's been living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for more

1:32:52 > 1:32:53than five years to avoid deportation to Sweden.

1:32:53 > 1:32:56Julian Assange believes he will be extradited to the United States

1:32:56 > 1:32:58if he leaves the embassy, for questioning about

1:32:58 > 1:33:01the activities of WikiLeaks.

1:33:01 > 1:33:04Public Health England says it wants e-cigarettes to be prescribed

1:33:04 > 1:33:07on the NHS within the next two to three years because they says

1:33:07 > 1:33:11they're an effective way to help smokers quit.

1:33:11 > 1:33:14The agency has reviewed the latest evidence and says vaping poses only

1:33:14 > 1:33:16a small fraction of the risk of smoking tobacco.

1:33:16 > 1:33:19It's calling for the UK's drug regulator to help manufacturers

1:33:19 > 1:33:22get their products approved.

1:33:22 > 1:33:26That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:33:26 > 1:33:28Thank you.

1:33:28 > 1:33:36Here's some sport now with Sarah.

1:33:37 > 1:33:39The pressure is mounting on Chelsea boss Antonio Conte.

1:33:39 > 1:33:42He insists he's not worried after his side fell to a second

1:33:42 > 1:33:44successive defeat in the Premier League.

1:33:44 > 1:33:47They were beaten 4-1 away at struggling Watford.But

1:33:47 > 1:33:50it was an unforgettable night for the new Hornets boss Javi Gracia

1:33:50 > 1:33:53- a first win in his first home game in charge.

1:33:53 > 1:33:55The Winter Olympics begin on Friday, but 32 Russian athletes have

1:33:55 > 1:33:56appealed against their exclusion.

1:33:56 > 1:33:59Their hearings will take place on Wednesday.

1:33:59 > 1:34:02And Maddie Hinch has been named best female hockey goalkeeper

1:34:02 > 1:34:07for the second year in a row.

1:34:07 > 1:34:10She was part of the GB Olympic winning team in Rio and last year

1:34:10 > 1:34:12helped England win bronze in both the EuroHockey Championships

1:34:12 > 1:34:20and World League. I'll be back with more later.

1:34:22 > 1:34:24100 years ago today the Representation of the People Act

1:34:24 > 1:34:27was a passed, giving women the right to vote - though actually it only

1:34:27 > 1:34:30allowed women over the age of 30 who were either married

1:34:30 > 1:34:33or owned their own property to cast a ballot.

1:34:33 > 1:34:36The women who fought the change were known as the suffragettes, here are

1:34:36 > 1:34:40some of them in their own words.

1:34:40 > 1:34:42I know that in those days, I was extremely

1:34:42 > 1:34:44annoyed at the difference between the advantages men had and

1:34:44 > 1:34:52boys had, and the ones girls had.

1:34:52 > 1:35:00I know when one grew up and saw the differences

1:35:00 > 1:35:02and opportunities that boys had, and that men had,

1:35:02 > 1:35:07and those women and girls had, well, of course,

1:35:07 > 1:35:10that just increased that feeling.

1:35:11 > 1:35:20No women solicitors allowed. That woman stood in a court alone in a

1:35:20 > 1:35:26man's world. And she got man's sense of justice.

1:35:31 > 1:35:36I mean, if a woman...

1:35:54 > 1:36:00We live like animals, to a degree, on the poorest side. There were

1:36:00 > 1:36:08people with money, but there was a very big gap. There were those that

1:36:08 > 1:36:12really were like mice, before the suffragettes started, that woke us

1:36:12 > 1:36:19up. Until then, we were fast asleep. In an interview tomorrow 100 years

1:36:19 > 1:36:22of votes for women, the Prime Minister said the government is

1:36:22 > 1:36:26looking at a new offence to do with intimidating parliament candidates

1:36:26 > 1:36:36and candidates. Theresa May says an attitude is leading to women needing

1:36:36 > 1:36:40to not taking part. We have seen increased intimidation

1:36:40 > 1:36:43of candidates, Parliamentary candidates, most often focused on

1:36:43 > 1:36:49women, and that's why I think it's right that we are consulting on a

1:36:49 > 1:36:54new offence of intimidation of parliamentary candidates and

1:36:54 > 1:36:58campaigners. I think we also see, sadly, women often suffering from

1:36:58 > 1:37:03bullying and harassment on social media. I think we need to just step

1:37:03 > 1:37:09back and say that, sadly, this will lead to some women feeling they

1:37:09 > 1:37:12don't want to put their head above the parapet, and don't want to take

1:37:12 > 1:37:16part in public life.

1:37:16 > 1:37:19Greta Brandler is 102 and was just two years old when women

1:37:19 > 1:37:26got the right to vote.

1:37:27 > 1:37:36Can you hear me OK?Only just, I'm afraid. The reception is not good.

1:37:36 > 1:37:41OK, I am Victoria and it is nice to talk to you. I want to ask you, has

1:37:41 > 1:37:48enough changed in the last 100 years?Victoria, dear, it is a

1:37:48 > 1:37:51different world, a completely different world. It changed after

1:37:51 > 1:37:57the First World War when women were working in factories and changed,

1:37:57 > 1:38:02more so in the Second World War when women realise they did not have to

1:38:02 > 1:38:07go back to 1945 to be domestic servants. They could go to

1:38:07 > 1:38:13university, they could trained to do something. They reasoned like this,

1:38:13 > 1:38:18we did a man's job during the war, we can do a man's job now and we

1:38:18 > 1:38:23want equality. We have been fighting and battling for some sort of

1:38:23 > 1:38:29equality all this length of time. With some success, but of course,

1:38:29 > 1:38:33not nearly enough, because men are, by nature, control freaks. The fact

1:38:33 > 1:38:39that they are 70 roles in long trousers doesn't make any

1:38:39 > 1:38:42difference, they still control freaks. They are spoiled rotten when

1:38:42 > 1:38:46they are young and hold onto that for the rest of their lives. You

1:38:46 > 1:38:52look at what we have got in Parliament, seven-year-old boys

1:38:52 > 1:38:56fighting and squabbling, and name-calling with no loyalty

1:38:56 > 1:39:02whatsoever. They were all born in the 60s and 70s, and were spoiled

1:39:02 > 1:39:06rotten. They are self privileged, and now they are running the

1:39:06 > 1:39:11country, God help us, and they are doing their very best to be railed

1:39:11 > 1:39:17Theresa, who is a woman doing the best she can, and she is the best we

1:39:17 > 1:39:21have got. And while those stupid children in Parliament are trying to

1:39:21 > 1:39:26tear themselves to pieces, I do not know. Where is the loyalty? Where on

1:39:26 > 1:39:32earth is the loyalty? What is the alternative? Mr Corbyn sounded very

1:39:32 > 1:39:37much know, and we are in a lot of trouble. We are headed and sliding

1:39:37 > 1:39:44towards World War III whether you like it or not. Korea and America,

1:39:44 > 1:39:53maybe Palestine... I don't know, but certainly, it is time for a third

1:39:53 > 1:39:57world war because we have fought two wars to keep the Germans out of this

1:39:57 > 1:40:03country is excessively, and our friends and allies, and Commonwealth

1:40:03 > 1:40:06cousins helped us to fight the Germans and keep us out of this

1:40:06 > 1:40:15country.I hope to god you are wrong, Greta, about World War III.

1:40:15 > 1:40:21Now we have got Mrs Merkel in charge and she is calling the shots, and as

1:40:21 > 1:40:25long as we are tied to the EU with people like Barnier and Jean-Claude

1:40:25 > 1:40:30Juncker, we will always become the voting will always be 26-1 against

1:40:30 > 1:40:36us. And while there are politicians that don't realise this, they will

1:40:36 > 1:40:45never say yes to Juncker and Barnier. What ever, they have got a

1:40:45 > 1:40:48packed, and they will want more and more, and want money. It is all

1:40:48 > 1:40:56about money. They want money to pay off their debts.Can I ask a

1:40:56 > 1:40:59question...Unelected, unaccountable, as Mrs that just

1:40:59 > 1:41:03said, and they are corrupt, and we should be out about. I wouldn't join

1:41:03 > 1:41:13a firm but couldn't bother...Can I ask you what you think is the

1:41:13 > 1:41:19biggest change for women that you have seen in your lifetime?What did

1:41:19 > 1:41:25she say...The biggest change for women you have seen in your

1:41:25 > 1:41:32lifetime.What has changed?For women.They have moved a bit closer

1:41:32 > 1:41:37to the glass ceiling. But it is a battle, and a woman has do be twice

1:41:37 > 1:41:43as good to be equal to a man, but we have seen a lot of changes. Having

1:41:43 > 1:41:47said that, we are a very small country, and the rest of the world

1:41:47 > 1:41:52is lagging behind, where women are treated like cattle, like slaves. Go

1:41:52 > 1:41:58to Asia, anywhere in Asia, and the Middle East, where women are treated

1:41:58 > 1:42:04like commodities, bought and sold in which you know?How do we...The

1:42:04 > 1:42:11world has not advanced that much. It is a man's well, look what they have

1:42:11 > 1:42:17done with it.How do we break the glass ceiling, Greta?How do they

1:42:17 > 1:42:23break the glass ceiling? How do you break the glass ceiling, Greta? How

1:42:23 > 1:42:29do you break it?As long as men are stupid and greedy, identity any

1:42:29 > 1:42:36change much...LAUGHTER It is in the male DNA, built in the

1:42:36 > 1:42:42domineering and bossy and I am always right. They have to have

1:42:42 > 1:42:49somebody to look down on. They have to have control. They are control

1:42:49 > 1:42:55freaks, most of them are control freaks.Greta... Greta...Bay RB

1:42:55 > 1:43:02hunter gatherers, they brought the food.You have a son and a

1:43:02 > 1:43:11daughter...Not a lot has changed, some things have changed. We have

1:43:11 > 1:43:15got women now that are educated. They came out of World War II and

1:43:15 > 1:43:19said, "We did a man's job and we are not going back to being domestic

1:43:19 > 1:43:26servant anymore." They are fighting for their jobs. It is a small number

1:43:26 > 1:43:32and a very uphill struggle.Greta, thank you so much for talking to us.

1:43:32 > 1:43:42We are so grateful.Finished?Thank you!

1:43:46 > 1:43:52Do you want to say something else? Our weekly?LAUGHTER

1:43:52 > 1:44:02I am in love with that woman! She has a son and a daughter, and

1:44:02 > 1:44:05mothers of sons have a responsible if you do bring them up so that they

1:44:05 > 1:44:08are not control freaks and don't want to dominate the world. And I am

1:44:08 > 1:44:15doing my best. That was Greta, and she is a star.

1:44:15 > 1:44:18To mark the anniversary of women getting the vote, we thought we'd

1:44:18 > 1:44:22revive our Blind Date series and take two women out on a date -

1:44:22 > 1:44:25one who'd never voted in an elected - and one who thinks

1:44:25 > 1:44:27all women should vote.

1:44:27 > 1:44:30Olivia Attwood is a reality star who's best known for her appearance

1:44:30 > 1:44:32in last summer's Love Island and Anna Soubry

1:44:32 > 1:44:33is a Conservative MP.

1:44:33 > 1:44:40Here's how they got on.

1:44:40 > 1:44:41Hi, I'm Olivia Attwood.

1:44:41 > 1:44:43I'm 26 and I am a TV personality.

1:44:43 > 1:44:46You probably saw me appear in the last series of Love Island.

1:44:46 > 1:44:49I've never voted in a party vote, which I feel really ashamed of,

1:44:49 > 1:44:53especially we're celebrating the 100 years of women having the vote.

1:44:53 > 1:44:55My name is Anna Soubry, and I'm the member of Parliament

1:44:55 > 1:45:00for Broxtowe in Nottinghamshire.

1:45:00 > 1:45:03I think there's an argument that says it was such a long struggle

1:45:03 > 1:45:05for women to get the vote, we kind of should

1:45:05 > 1:45:13get out and use it.

1:45:13 > 1:45:14Lovely to meet you.

1:45:14 > 1:45:16Hi, I'm Anna.

1:45:16 > 1:45:17Olivia.

1:45:17 > 1:45:18Lovely to meet you, too.

1:45:18 > 1:45:19How are you?

1:45:19 > 1:45:27I'm all right, darling, how you?

1:45:29 > 1:45:32I have to admit, what I know is my dad is heavily into politics,

1:45:32 > 1:45:34And he's German, so was very anti-Brexit.

1:45:34 > 1:45:35Did you vote in the referendum?

1:45:35 > 1:45:36For Brexit?

1:45:36 > 1:45:37Yes.

1:45:37 > 1:45:39But I've never voted in a party vote.

1:45:39 > 1:45:41For the reason that I just think I've never known

1:45:41 > 1:45:43I mean, I think everybody should vote.

1:45:43 > 1:45:46Women worked so damn hard, it was such a serious

1:45:46 > 1:45:47struggle, for ever.

1:45:47 > 1:45:49And that makes me feel, to think that I haven't used

1:45:49 > 1:45:52the vote when so many people would give so much for one,

1:45:52 > 1:45:53makes me feel not great.

1:45:53 > 1:45:56Some people say Parliament's got to look more like society.

1:45:56 > 1:46:00Right?

1:46:00 > 1:46:03You can't have Dave from your local pub just ranting and raving

1:46:03 > 1:46:05in the House of Commons, do you know what I mean?

1:46:05 > 1:46:06I think he's there!

1:46:06 > 1:46:08He probably is, he's the one sleeping.

1:46:08 > 1:46:10No, I know exactly what you mean.

1:46:10 > 1:46:11I think you are absolutely right.

1:46:11 > 1:46:14I think we should see more women there.

1:46:14 > 1:46:16I think we could do with more younger people in.

1:46:16 > 1:46:19We could certainly do with more women in, certainly more

1:46:19 > 1:46:20black and brown faces in.

1:46:20 > 1:46:28What we really want are people who are going to do the right thing.

1:46:42 > 1:46:44You know, we have experienced since leaving Love Island

1:46:44 > 1:46:47of doing different jobs, and we've had to do some digging

1:46:47 > 1:46:49to find out, you know, that the boys were getting paid

1:46:49 > 1:46:51substantially more than us for the exact same job.

1:46:51 > 1:46:52No!

1:46:52 > 1:46:54Yeah, for the exact same outcome.

1:46:54 > 1:46:55No!

1:46:55 > 1:46:57When obviously my manager said, they've all discussed the fee,

1:46:57 > 1:46:59what's going on, what is the reason?

1:46:59 > 1:47:02It was, please don't tell anyone, we will match the money.

1:47:02 > 1:47:10So the money was always there.

1:47:12 > 1:47:13I will enjoy that.

1:47:13 > 1:47:15You didn't eat much food, though!

1:47:15 > 1:47:16I didn't.

1:47:16 > 1:47:17I was too busy talking.

1:47:17 > 1:47:18You had one chip.

1:47:18 > 1:47:19One chip.

1:47:19 > 1:47:23That's better than nothing.

1:47:23 > 1:47:24I'm definitely voting next time.

1:47:24 > 1:47:25Every vote counts.

1:47:25 > 1:47:26Absolutely.

1:47:26 > 1:47:27I think I've taken that away.

1:47:27 > 1:47:30Even if your area is heavily towards one party, you go,

1:47:30 > 1:47:33they are always going to win, so what difference does it make?

1:47:33 > 1:47:34It can make a difference.

1:47:34 > 1:47:35It can.

1:47:35 > 1:47:38Thank you for your many, many, many comments about Greta. Marilyn says

1:47:38 > 1:47:40part to be part of 100 years a feisty ladies like Greta, but she

1:47:40 > 1:47:47was a bit sexist against men. Katie and Facebook says Greta was the best

1:47:47 > 1:47:54bit of TV so far. Georgie says Greta is honoured. Helen, living Greta.

1:47:54 > 1:48:00When you are 102, why should you let anyone else get a word in edgeways?!

1:48:00 > 1:48:04Julia, someone tell me someone is recording your programme right now,

1:48:04 > 1:48:10Greta is my feminist hero. I wish I could be that badass at her rage.

1:48:10 > 1:48:16She is modern society and it is glorious to watch. Mark says Greta

1:48:16 > 1:48:24is brutal, don't hold back. Sue says having a job to get a word in with

1:48:24 > 1:48:29Greta, who is apparently hard of hearing. Any says what a wise and

1:48:29 > 1:48:32wonderful lady, can somebody arrange for her to replace Theresa May?

1:48:32 > 1:48:36Deborah says all those women who fought for the rights of the women