08/02/2018

0:00:07 > 0:00:09Hello - it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12I'm Chloe Tilley, welcome to the programme.

0:00:12 > 0:00:18The workplace culture at Westminster is in need of urgent reform.

0:00:18 > 0:00:21A new report shows almost a fifth of people working there witnessing

0:00:21 > 0:00:23or experiencing sexual harassment in the past year.

0:00:23 > 0:00:26MPs will propose a new code of conduct later today.

0:00:26 > 0:00:33It's also about putting the complainant at the heart

0:00:33 > 0:00:35of the process, giving them back control, because very often,

0:00:35 > 0:00:38particularly in the case of sexual crimes that have been committed,

0:00:38 > 0:00:41that individual feels that control has been taken away from them.

0:00:41 > 0:00:42So what should be done?

0:00:42 > 0:00:45We'll be speaking to some of the MPs that are working to change

0:00:45 > 0:00:46the culture in Westminster.

0:00:46 > 0:00:48No-one has forgotten the bravery of the firefighters who attended

0:00:48 > 0:00:52the Grenfell Tower fire last June - now five of the men who fought

0:00:52 > 0:00:55the fire are running the London Marathon together.

0:00:55 > 0:01:00They're speaking to us for the first time since it happened.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04For parents of premature babies, being separated from their child

0:01:04 > 0:01:07when they're first born is often the hardest thing.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10Now a new study suggests involving mums and dads in their hospital care

0:01:10 > 0:01:11improves the babies wellbeing.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14We'll be speaking to parents of premature babies.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17And bad news for music fans - ticket prices for big name

0:01:17 > 0:01:24arena gigs have doubled since the late 1990s.

0:01:24 > 0:01:31While a ticket to see the Spice Girls was £23 twenty years

0:01:31 > 0:01:39ago, going to see Taylor Swift costs upwards of £60 now.

0:01:41 > 0:01:43Hello.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:01:46 > 0:01:49So have high ticket prices stopped you seeing your favourite artist?

0:01:49 > 0:01:51Have you noticed how much more expensive it is now?

0:01:51 > 0:01:55Get in touch with us.

0:01:55 > 0:01:56Share your experiences.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59And concert prices aren't the only thing going up.

0:01:59 > 0:02:02Council taxes are on the increase as well.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05They're going up by an average of £100, as local authorities

0:02:05 > 0:02:06struggle to balance their books.

0:02:06 > 0:02:07What's happening in your area?

0:02:07 > 0:02:09Can you afford to pay more?

0:02:09 > 0:02:11And have you or your family got personal experiences

0:02:11 > 0:02:12of cuts to services?

0:02:12 > 0:02:16Do get in touch on this and all the stories we're talking

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0:02:24 > 0:02:29Our top story today:

0:02:29 > 0:02:32Nearly a fifth of people working in parliament have

0:02:32 > 0:02:33experienced sexual harassment, that's according to a report that's

0:02:33 > 0:02:35been released in the past hour.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37A cross-party group of MPs, chaired by the Leader

0:02:37 > 0:02:40of the Commons, Andrea Leadsom, recommends a new code of conduct

0:02:40 > 0:02:42to stamp out sexual harassment and compulsory training to help MPs

0:02:42 > 0:02:47"understand and prevent harassment".

0:02:47 > 0:02:50The review was set up last year after several harassment claims

0:02:50 > 0:02:52against MPs and staff.

0:02:52 > 0:02:58Norman Smith can tell us more.

0:02:58 > 0:03:02Just take us through these recommendations.There's a huge

0:03:02 > 0:03:06range of them, much of them centred on trying to change the culture at

0:03:06 > 0:03:10Westminster. They are talking about introducing a new code of conduct

0:03:10 > 0:03:15for MPs and their staff. There will be compulsory training for MPs.

0:03:15 > 0:03:20There will be a new human resources Department, to provide advice and

0:03:20 > 0:03:25guidance to MPs and there will be two hotlines set up, one for victims

0:03:25 > 0:03:29of bullying and intimidation, and one for victims of sexual

0:03:29 > 0:03:34harassment. But a lot of the really important changes centre on

0:03:34 > 0:03:39investigatory process. . At the moment if you are a victim of sexual

0:03:39 > 0:03:42harassment, you very often have do complain to your employer, and very

0:03:42 > 0:03:49often is your MP, who may be the perpetrator. That, of course, is a

0:03:49 > 0:03:52massive disincentive for people to make complaints. Alternatively, you

0:03:52 > 0:03:57could complain to the political party. Again, massive disincentive

0:03:57 > 0:04:01because if you are a young staffer you don't really want to complain to

0:04:01 > 0:04:05the party, because you may be looking for a job, a career with a

0:04:05 > 0:04:09political party. Under these changes, the investigatory process

0:04:09 > 0:04:13will be in the hands of an independent investigator, whose job

0:04:13 > 0:04:19it will be to carry out enquiries into all claims of sexual

0:04:19 > 0:04:22harassment. Two areas of controversy. One is

0:04:22 > 0:04:28that the accused will be granted anonymity throughout the whole

0:04:28 > 0:04:33process, until they are found guilty of anything. That is controversial

0:04:33 > 0:04:39because, as we know in many high-profile cases of sexual

0:04:39 > 0:04:42harassment, it is often only wants the person's name is put in the

0:04:42 > 0:04:45public domain that other victims come forward. The other contentious

0:04:45 > 0:04:49area is around sanctions. Still relatively light touch, we're

0:04:49 > 0:04:55talking about MPs may be having to make public apologies, undergo

0:04:55 > 0:05:00mandatory retraining, a written apology to the victim, maybe being

0:05:00 > 0:05:04suspended from the Houses of Parliament for a while. Can you sack

0:05:04 > 0:05:10the MP or will the MPB sacked?No, not easily. Norman, thank you for

0:05:10 > 0:05:12that. We will talk more about it in the programme.

0:05:12 > 0:05:15Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

0:05:15 > 0:05:16of the rest of the days news.

0:05:16 > 0:05:21Good morning. Good morning, Chloe.

0:05:21 > 0:05:2395% of councils in England are planning to raise

0:05:23 > 0:05:26council taxes in April, according to new research.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29A survey by the Local Government Information Unit found 80%

0:05:29 > 0:05:30were concerned about financial stability.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32The biggest pressure on budgets was demand

0:05:32 > 0:05:34for children's services, adult social care and

0:05:34 > 0:05:35housing and homelessness.

0:05:35 > 0:05:39The Government say the current system strikes a balance

0:05:39 > 0:05:41between relieving financial pressure and making sure taxpayers do not

0:05:41 > 0:05:47face excessive bills.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50Adult social care in England is a "Cinderella service",

0:05:50 > 0:05:53which is undervalued and whose workers are poorly paid, according

0:05:53 > 0:05:56to the public finance watchdog.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59The National Audit Office says the Government is failing to deal

0:05:59 > 0:06:02with a shortage of care workers, at a time when demand is increasing.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05Here's more from our Social Affairs Correspondent, Alison Holt.

0:06:05 > 0:06:09It's a busy lunchtime at Northfields nursing home in Sheffield,

0:06:09 > 0:06:12demanding work for the care staff who are looking after residents

0:06:12 > 0:06:16with a high level of need, and today's report outlines just how

0:06:16 > 0:06:18difficult it has become to find the people needed

0:06:18 > 0:06:21to provide this vital care.

0:06:21 > 0:06:22Joyce, good afternoon.

0:06:22 > 0:06:24It's only me.

0:06:24 > 0:06:25Sorry to bother you, darling.

0:06:25 > 0:06:30Tammy Ardron is the nursing lead here.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32Finding care staff generally is a problem, but she says

0:06:32 > 0:06:33attracting nurses has become

0:06:33 > 0:06:34a real issue for them.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38I don't think it is as attractive as maybe the NHS where you have

0:06:38 > 0:06:40got your salary packages, enhanced rates of pay,

0:06:40 > 0:06:43unsociable hours.

0:06:43 > 0:06:44And I think it's hard work.

0:06:44 > 0:06:51It's constant, you have got to be on the ball 24 hours a day.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54The National Audit Office says whilst working in care

0:06:54 > 0:06:57can be rewarding, many staff feel undervalued.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00In 2016-17, more than half of the workforce was paid £7.50 an

0:07:00 > 0:07:03hour or less.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06In the same year, staff turnover was nearly 28% and 6.6%

0:07:06 > 0:07:07of jobs were vacant.

0:07:07 > 0:07:15But it says there is no government strategy for tackling the problems.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19Only the Department of Health can produce a workforce strategy that

0:07:19 > 0:07:23would speak to the national picture about the problems we find

0:07:23 > 0:07:25of low pay, low prestige and high turnover rates,

0:07:25 > 0:07:27which is reducing quality of service for people

0:07:27 > 0:07:28who are actually receiving care.

0:07:28 > 0:07:31In response the Department for Health and Social Care says

0:07:31 > 0:07:34extra money is being put into caring for vulnerable people and that it

0:07:34 > 0:07:38will soon publish a strategy for the health and care workforce.

0:07:38 > 0:07:45Alison Holt, BBC News, Sheffield.

0:07:46 > 0:07:47School anti-obesity programmes don't work,

0:07:47 > 0:07:51according to a report in the British Medical Journal.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54Initiatives like encouraging healthy eating and additional exercise

0:07:54 > 0:07:56are unlikely to have any impact on childhood obesity,

0:07:56 > 0:07:59say researchers.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02They looked at 600 primary school pupils over the course of a year,

0:08:02 > 0:08:05all of whom were taking part in an anti-obesity programme.

0:08:05 > 0:08:13But they found no improvement in diet or activity levels.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17Australia's Prime Minister says he will issue a national apology to

0:08:17 > 0:08:21survivors of child abuse. A Royal commission into the treatment of

0:08:21 > 0:08:25thousands of children who were abused in the care of churches,

0:08:25 > 0:08:28schools and homes across Australia described the crimes as a national

0:08:28 > 0:08:33tragedy. Malcolm Turnbull's announcement increases pressure on

0:08:33 > 0:08:36state governments and religious institutions that have yet to sign

0:08:36 > 0:08:38up to a scheme to compensate the victims.

0:08:38 > 0:08:40New research suggests that the nutrient asparagine,

0:08:40 > 0:08:42which is found in asparagus and other seemingly healthy

0:08:42 > 0:08:45foods, plays a key role in the spread of cancer.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47Scientists in the UK experimented on mice with breast cancer,

0:08:47 > 0:08:50and found that depriving them of asparagine made it harder

0:08:50 > 0:08:53for their tumours to spread.

0:08:53 > 0:08:55This means that altering the diet of a cancer

0:08:55 > 0:08:59patient could potentially improve their chances of survival.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02At least nine people have died after after an earthquake struck

0:09:02 > 0:09:05the city of Hualien in Taiwan.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08This is moment that the quake hit was captured on CCTV in one hostel

0:09:08 > 0:09:15in the popular tourist city.

0:09:15 > 0:09:16Around 10 people are still missing, after tremors left

0:09:16 > 0:09:18buildings badly damaged.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21Rescue work is underway at one apartment block which has been left

0:09:21 > 0:09:24teetering at a 45-degree angle.

0:09:25 > 0:09:27More people than ever, are seeking help for money problems -

0:09:27 > 0:09:29short-term borrowing has risen four times faster than wages.

0:09:29 > 0:09:34BBC News has analysed UK Finance data which shows

0:09:34 > 0:09:36there was £37 billion of unsecured personal

0:09:36 > 0:09:38debt last year.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41David Rhodes has the details.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44There are 9 million people across Britain that say their debts

0:09:44 > 0:09:48are a burden as the cost of living rises.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50For some the debts are mounting up.

0:09:50 > 0:09:56I was using credit cards to pay for food shopping.

0:09:56 > 0:10:00Two days before payday and I had £5 left and not much petrol in the car

0:10:00 > 0:10:04so it was a case of using £5 for petrol to get to work or use

0:10:04 > 0:10:07the £5 to make packed lunches for my boys for the next two days.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10Mel fed her children but her £28,000 debt forced her to seek

0:10:10 > 0:10:15help from a charity.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17January was our busiest month we have ever had.

0:10:17 > 0:10:22We have seen people in extreme cases of anxiety and depression.

0:10:22 > 0:10:24Figures from UK Finance show households had outstanding personal

0:10:24 > 0:10:30bank loans of £37 billion last year.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33That does not include borrowing on credit cards and payday lending,

0:10:33 > 0:10:35but the value of outstanding personal loans has grown by 25%

0:10:35 > 0:10:38in the past three years, whilst wages for typical workers

0:10:38 > 0:10:44have grown by just over 6%.

0:10:44 > 0:10:46Charities warn banks are beginning to lend irresponsibly, but the body

0:10:46 > 0:10:49that regulates lending has a clear message for bankers.

0:10:49 > 0:10:54They should not be lending when someone is in a difficult

0:10:54 > 0:10:59situation, where that borrowing would be unaffordable for them.

0:10:59 > 0:11:01We will always see isolated cases, where firms don't follow those rules

0:11:01 > 0:11:03and where we will take action.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05With household budgets likely to remain under pressure

0:11:05 > 0:11:07the temptation for people to borrow is not likely to

0:11:07 > 0:11:09disappear any time soon.

0:11:09 > 0:11:16David Rhodes, BBC News.

0:11:16 > 0:11:21South Korea's president president Moon Jae-in is to meet members

0:11:21 > 0:11:22of North Korea's Olympics delegation at the presidential

0:11:22 > 0:11:25Blue House on Saturday.

0:11:25 > 0:11:27Among those attending will be Kim Yo-jong, the sister

0:11:27 > 0:11:29of the North Korean leader.

0:11:29 > 0:11:32It will be the first such visit to the Blue House by any

0:11:32 > 0:11:35member of the Kim family.

0:11:38 > 0:11:40Tonight sees the European premier of Black Panther -

0:11:40 > 0:11:42Marvel's first black superhero film.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44The film which features Michael B Jordan, Lupita Nyong'o

0:11:44 > 0:11:47and Angela Bassett, is on track to be one of the biggest superhero

0:11:47 > 0:11:51films ever based on pre-ticket sales.

0:11:51 > 0:11:53The UK's entry for this year's Eurovision Song

0:11:53 > 0:12:00Contest has been chosen.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03# Forever, remember

0:12:03 > 0:12:11# We can hold our hands together through this storm...#.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16Singer SuRie was chosen after her uptempo ballad Storm won

0:12:16 > 0:12:19over both a jury and TV viewers in a telephone vote.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21The artist, whose real name is Susanna Cork,

0:12:21 > 0:12:24has performed in the competiton twice before as a backing singer.

0:12:24 > 0:12:31The UK last won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1997.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9:30am.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39Thank you very much.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

0:12:41 > 0:12:44Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and, if you text, you will be charged

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0:12:50 > 0:12:52Let's get some sport now with Hugh - and it's started!

0:12:52 > 0:12:55The Winter Olympics are underway, even though we haven't had

0:12:55 > 0:13:00the Opening Ceremony yet.

0:13:00 > 0:13:05Plenty to come and lots to look forward to.

0:13:05 > 0:13:07Freezing temperatures South Korea over the coming weeks,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10but the focus already on one person keeping her cool -

0:13:10 > 0:13:15defending Skeleton Champ Lizzie Yarnold.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18She says staying relaxed will be key for her if she has any chance

0:13:18 > 0:13:20of creating more British sporting history.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23But one slice of history she will definitely achieve

0:13:23 > 0:13:25in Pyeonchang is at that Opening Ceremony.

0:13:25 > 0:13:27Yarnold has today been named as Team GB's flagbearer,

0:13:27 > 0:13:29when the 23rd Games open tomorrow.

0:13:29 > 0:13:32She says the ceremony will mark "the beginning of the biggest two

0:13:32 > 0:13:35weeks of her life".

0:13:35 > 0:13:39It's an honour that I never really thought about, but actually means so

0:13:39 > 0:13:46much, because the flag represents the whole team and we as a team

0:13:46 > 0:13:48represent everyone in Great Britain who have watched us, who have

0:13:48 > 0:13:53supported us. You know, for parents to watch us on the TV screen, our

0:13:53 > 0:13:59grandparents watching at home, that is the moment when they say "Great

0:13:59 > 0:14:00Britain"

0:14:00 > 0:14:02is the moment when they say "Great Britain". Your skin tingles.It will

0:14:02 > 0:14:08feel like for her at the opening ceremony.

0:14:08 > 0:14:11There's no roof on the Olympic Stadium in Pyeongchang.

0:14:11 > 0:14:13It could be as cold as minus 10.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16So, organisers are installing wind shields - massive heaters -

0:14:16 > 0:14:18while those who brave the elements will be given, blankets and heat

0:14:18 > 0:14:21pads amongst other things to help keep them warm.

0:14:21 > 0:14:24But some of the athletes already saying they won't be attending

0:14:24 > 0:14:29because it is just too cold. Let's talk about Katie Ormerod.

0:14:29 > 0:14:33British snowboarder, injured in training, quite a bad injury but she

0:14:33 > 0:14:34is still competing?

0:14:34 > 0:14:37Yeah, well not a great start for Katie Ormerod.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39She will be competing in the slopestyle and "big air"

0:14:39 > 0:14:43events but came off a rail while training yesterday.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45She said "Oops" on social media, as she announced she had

0:14:45 > 0:14:47a fracture to her left wrist.

0:14:47 > 0:14:50She has stayed upbeat.

0:14:50 > 0:14:51The wrist will be well protected.

0:14:51 > 0:14:53The slopestyle qualifier isn't until Sunday -

0:14:53 > 0:14:54not the greatest prep.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57But if she's to do well, she'll need to stay on her feet

0:14:57 > 0:14:59on and her snowboard.

0:14:59 > 0:15:02So maybe that wrist won't be too crucial for her.

0:15:02 > 0:15:08If we look back to the last Olympics, four years ago, all the

0:15:08 > 0:15:12medals for Team GB, is there a similar expectation, UK sport 's

0:15:12 > 0:15:14only one to go one better.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17That would be a new record medal haul at a Winter Games.

0:15:17 > 0:15:185-12 is the target.

0:15:18 > 0:15:25Where will those come?

0:15:25 > 0:15:29Aside form Yarnold and Ormerod,Team GB have high hopes,

0:15:29 > 0:15:31there was huge disapoointment for Elise Christie - speed skater.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33She crashed out four years ago in Sochi.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35It would be great to see her do well.

0:15:35 > 0:15:36Devastated, she was.

0:15:36 > 0:15:39Lots of medal chances on skis - freestylers James Woods and

0:15:39 > 0:15:41Izzy Atkins, Andrew Musgrave in the cross country.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45Lots to look out for.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48Coverage of the Opening Ceremony starts from 10:30am tomorrow

0:15:48 > 0:15:52and live on BBC One.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55But of course, we'll keep you updated here on the programme.

0:15:55 > 0:16:01Thank you, really looking forward to the Winter Olympics!

0:16:01 > 0:16:05No-one can forget the devastating scenes from the Grenfell fire

0:16:05 > 0:16:07on 14th June last summer.

0:16:07 > 0:16:09The fire left 71 people dead, hundreds homeless

0:16:09 > 0:16:10and the community shattered.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13One thing that united everyone in their grief was the admiration

0:16:13 > 0:16:15for the firefighters who risked their lives rescuing

0:16:15 > 0:16:19people from the tower.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22Jesus Christ, mate!

0:16:22 > 0:16:25Christ, BLEEP me.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28How are we going to get into that?

0:16:28 > 0:16:31Jesus Christ.

0:16:31 > 0:16:34Oh, my God.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38There are kids in there.

0:16:38 > 0:16:39That's a real block.

0:16:39 > 0:16:41BLEEP.

0:16:41 > 0:16:48Jesus.

0:16:48 > 0:16:51It's a towering inferno, isn't it?

0:16:51 > 0:16:53It's not possible.

0:16:53 > 0:16:58It has jumped up all over the flats, look.

0:16:58 > 0:17:06How the BLEEP is that possible?

0:17:11 > 0:17:18North Kensington's to watch were some of the first on the scene. And

0:17:18 > 0:17:24many among them are running in the London Marathon.

0:17:24 > 0:17:26I'm pleased to say we're joined by firefighters Mike Dowden,

0:17:26 > 0:17:28Chris Secret, Tom Abell, Mike Kirkpatrick

0:17:28 > 0:17:29and Justin O'Beirne.

0:17:29 > 0:17:38Was that difficult to hear?. It is. There are still lots of emotion from

0:17:38 > 0:17:42many of our colleagues. It is something we will have to deal with

0:17:42 > 0:17:48and move forward. As doing a marathon helps us deal and process

0:17:48 > 0:17:52events which we witnessed. We need to move forward in a positive

0:17:52 > 0:17:59direction and have something to work towards.Let me take you back to

0:17:59 > 0:18:05when you got that call, if I can. Did any of you have a sense of the

0:18:05 > 0:18:12scale of what you were going to be confronted with?When we turned up

0:18:12 > 0:18:16to that particular fire, at first it was something we deal with

0:18:16 > 0:18:22regularly. In a short amount of time it became something unbelievable. We

0:18:22 > 0:18:28just did our job which we normally do on the night. Unfortunately the

0:18:28 > 0:18:32world saw what happened.When you are confronted with that, clearly

0:18:32 > 0:18:39you go into professional mode. It is a human, instinctive reaction, isn't

0:18:39 > 0:18:44it?There is you are right. At the time you don't really consider what

0:18:44 > 0:18:49is going on around you. It is about getting on with your job and doing

0:18:49 > 0:18:52what needs to be done. On that night, it was something no one had

0:18:52 > 0:18:59faced before. How about you? I was not expecting to hear that clip. It

0:18:59 > 0:19:05brings it back. Quite difficult to cope with. I am still receiving

0:19:05 > 0:19:11counselling. Our chief came out and openly spoke about receiving

0:19:11 > 0:19:15counselling and stuff like that. I don't know what the children are

0:19:15 > 0:19:20going through in the community at the moment. For us running the

0:19:20 > 0:19:24marathon, for this organisation are just to support the children, they

0:19:24 > 0:19:27are getting counselling is wealth from this organisation.How

0:19:27 > 0:19:33important is that you?

0:19:33 > 0:19:36important is that you?For me, personally, I have benefited from it

0:19:36 > 0:19:42a great deal. The Fire Brigade are supplying us with councillors. There

0:19:42 > 0:19:46is a charity run by the firefighters. We have been now for a

0:19:46 > 0:19:53week as a watchful stock that was very helpful as well. -- as a watch

0:19:53 > 0:19:57- that was very helpful as well. No training could have prepared us for

0:19:57 > 0:20:06what happened that night. The work involved in the fire, and people in

0:20:06 > 0:20:12the community are all suffering.Us, as firefighters, we have had some

0:20:12 > 0:20:17kind of exposure to traumatic events in the past. I have been a

0:20:17 > 0:20:24firefighter for 15 years. The kids and children should not be exposed

0:20:24 > 0:20:29to those kinds of events. As firefighters we can process that but

0:20:29 > 0:20:33how does a foldable child process those events? By running the

0:20:33 > 0:20:39marathon it is about raising

0:20:39 > 0:20:41marathon it is about raising funds for an organisation providing

0:20:41 > 0:20:45therapy for these children. This is at the heart of what we are doing.

0:20:45 > 0:20:50For people who have not been to the site of Grenfell Tower, they may not

0:20:50 > 0:20:54realise it is not just the community that was living within that tower.

0:20:54 > 0:20:58When I was standing there, there was a girl on the way to school, on her

0:20:58 > 0:21:02scooter. She was stopping and looking at all of the tributes

0:21:02 > 0:21:10talking about the tower and her dad was saying, come on, we need to go.

0:21:10 > 0:21:13It must be so hard when day in and day out you are confronted with that

0:21:13 > 0:21:15outside your home and outside your school will stop the shell of the

0:21:15 > 0:21:20tower is still there.It looms over North Kensington, the Parks and play

0:21:20 > 0:21:25areas. It is a constant reminder to everyone in the area about what

0:21:25 > 0:21:31happened and it is a real trigger for post traumatic stress. The

0:21:31 > 0:21:34organisation we are running for our kids who were probably missing from

0:21:34 > 0:21:43the original aid efforts. They have been probably undiagnosed distress

0:21:43 > 0:21:49and post-traumatic stress. It is the children in the entire area of North

0:21:49 > 0:21:54Kensington.How were you affected? I was not there on the night was my

0:21:54 > 0:21:58first night off I ever took. My mum was calling me saying, you at this

0:21:58 > 0:22:04fire? I said, what is going on question what it is quite a big one.

0:22:04 > 0:22:08You should probably have a look. I checked my phone and went down to

0:22:08 > 0:22:12the tower shortly afterwards. I'm not sure I was expecting but it was

0:22:12 > 0:22:18really good to see all the community pulling together. I tried to go to a

0:22:18 > 0:22:26few churches to offer help. So really people came to us.

0:22:28 > 0:22:33really people came to us.Is it difficult because you were not the

0:22:33 > 0:22:43that night? -- you were not there that night?I had not been in the

0:22:43 > 0:22:48Fire Brigade long, about six months. Coming into professional lots of new

0:22:48 > 0:22:53people and trying to find my feet, once we were together we all jailed.

0:22:53 > 0:23:01I felt included. That is why I am running the marathon as well. --

0:23:01 > 0:23:06gelled.Howdy you deal with being seen as heroes? There is no one who

0:23:06 > 0:23:13does not see you guys as heroes of the night?We have all joined this

0:23:13 > 0:23:17organisation, the London Fire Brigade, kids who want to help

0:23:17 > 0:23:22people. Anyone with the training and put we have had over the years as

0:23:22 > 0:23:26firefighters would do exactly the same in these circumstances. We

0:23:26 > 0:23:31would continue to try to do our best in whatever is presented to us. The

0:23:31 > 0:23:37real heroes... We went home last night. The real heroes are the

0:23:37 > 0:23:41people within the community, the children in the community, who have

0:23:41 > 0:23:47had such a horrific time. They are the heroes.It is difficult to take

0:23:47 > 0:23:52praise in our position. When so many people have passed away, it is

0:23:52 > 0:23:59difficult to see it in a successful Lightfoot of it is very difficult to

0:23:59 > 0:24:05hear that from our point of view. You have stayed so many lives?We

0:24:05 > 0:24:11are trying to turn that into something positive and bring in

0:24:11 > 0:24:15money for the Kids In The Green charity. Hopefully, if people feel

0:24:15 > 0:24:24that way towards asker they can find us and donate. -- towards us, they

0:24:24 > 0:24:43can find us and donate.You can find us on Facebook and Twitter.

0:24:51 > 0:24:58Gelled At Run4grenfell full you can find us there.

0:25:02 > 0:25:07find us there. -- at Run4grenfell. You can find us there. We have an

0:25:07 > 0:25:10opportunity to do something further beyond our response for that night.

0:25:10 > 0:25:17It is a tough journey but a fantastic journey. It will help us

0:25:17 > 0:25:22to help the community. It will help us to help ourselves, moving in that

0:25:22 > 0:25:30positive direction.Are you finding it tough?

0:25:30 > 0:25:38it tough?Furthest I had run was five miles. I am just about up to

0:25:38 > 0:25:42ten now. For me, personally, it would be difficult. We will stick

0:25:42 > 0:25:46together. We will all stick together.I will be setting the

0:25:46 > 0:25:52pace. We will come back to you the day after. Have any of you guys run

0:25:52 > 0:26:00a marathon before?Another member of the watch is also running as well.

0:26:00 > 0:26:08As running for Kids In The Green will make it ten times better.How

0:26:08 > 0:26:11has it helped you? Justin Britt you talked about having had your

0:26:11 > 0:26:18counselling. Has the training really helped?-- Justin, you talked. I am

0:26:18 > 0:26:23still playing rugby and swimming. I have not done any proper training

0:26:23 > 0:26:29for the marathon. I heard it was quite easy to run. 26 and a bit

0:26:29 > 0:26:35miles? People do it with washing machine is on their backs. The next

0:26:35 > 0:26:39couple of weeks maybe I will do some ten mile runs and see how I get on.

0:26:39 > 0:26:49Here is hoping.He has a good level of fitness.

0:26:50 > 0:26:54of fitness.We know we can push ourselves. We know we have mental

0:26:54 > 0:26:59strength. We are the focus. The motivation is to do good and pay

0:26:59 > 0:27:06back the community and ticket early help the children of Grenfell Tower.

0:27:06 > 0:27:12With the public support behind us, we will really, really plod on and

0:27:12 > 0:27:18achieve the funding and raise money for Kids In The Green.This is not

0:27:18 > 0:27:22just about counselling for kids and it is about giving them fun stuff,

0:27:22 > 0:27:28things you should do as a kid.We do not want that generation to be

0:27:28 > 0:27:36scarred by the tragic events of Grenfell. We want children to be

0:27:36 > 0:27:40children again within that community.The tower is still there.

0:27:40 > 0:27:44It is such a prominent feature in the area. It gives something to

0:27:44 > 0:27:51focus on. Eight positive spin.Do you know how much money you are

0:27:51 > 0:27:57likely to raise?The target is 50,000. That is quite high but we

0:27:57 > 0:28:01are hoping to get that. I think we have about 10,000 at the moment but

0:28:01 > 0:28:08we still need a lot of help will stop we are plugging away.What is

0:28:08 > 0:28:16your strategy? Clearly you are going to run together. You must have a

0:28:16 > 0:28:22training plan in mind or not?You end up doing a lot of training on

0:28:22 > 0:28:29your own. How will it work? We will start to do some training runs

0:28:29 > 0:28:33together. We need to run at the same speed and not lose each other. We

0:28:33 > 0:28:38have done some training in the gym together. We need to put down some

0:28:38 > 0:28:43miles and see how we get on.You are working shifts in different times.

0:28:43 > 0:28:48Getting you together must be something of a challenge.I live in

0:28:48 > 0:28:55Portsmouth. Tom is in the Midlands. Getting together is to us and we

0:28:55 > 0:29:02will try to do around our shifts.

0:29:02 > 0:29:09You travel that far as well? Yes, to do the job. After that experience,

0:29:09 > 0:29:14is there something you have found about yourself, all learned about

0:29:14 > 0:29:19yourself, through that horrendous experience you guys went through?I

0:29:19 > 0:29:26think, none of us had been exposed to that environment. It was an

0:29:26 > 0:29:30unprecedented event, almost on an international scale. The resilience

0:29:30 > 0:29:34you can build up to certain things, it was not just about the response

0:29:34 > 0:29:39that night. There have been a fair few challengers in the past eight

0:29:39 > 0:29:44months we have had to deal with. Just building up a resilience to

0:29:44 > 0:29:49that and moving forward. A lot of our job entails past experiences.

0:29:49 > 0:29:53Everything we have experienced will hopefully move our son in a good

0:29:53 > 0:30:01direction, both in our personal and professional lives.-- moves us on.

0:30:01 > 0:30:08I want to get you just to watch this. Just have a listen.

0:30:08 > 0:30:11On the night of the fire we were rescued by two

0:30:11 > 0:30:15firefighters after 3:30am.

0:30:15 > 0:30:17You came and you took us out and, of course,

0:30:17 > 0:30:21you couldn't save everyone, but you went into the building

0:30:21 > 0:30:23in the inferno, knowing that you could die any minute.

0:30:23 > 0:30:28I would like to say thank you and wish you good luck

0:30:28 > 0:30:30on your initiative to run the marathon to support survivors

0:30:30 > 0:30:37and bereaved families of the Grenfell Tower.

0:30:37 > 0:30:44What do you make of that?I think we have met that lady before. It's nice

0:30:44 > 0:30:48to see some of the survivors talking. There were so many

0:30:48 > 0:30:52firefighters there on the night, everyone really stepped up to the

0:30:52 > 0:30:57plate. In the days afterwards, the community were fantastic as well, in

0:30:57 > 0:31:01pulling together. We have a lot of respect for our colleagues and also

0:31:01 > 0:31:08the community around Grenfell.That is why we are doing it. Because

0:31:08 > 0:31:12there is so much emotion around the community still and within us.

0:31:12 > 0:31:17Sometimes if you don't do positive action, it can fester and show its

0:31:17 > 0:31:21face in other ways. We want to move on. We want to help the community,

0:31:21 > 0:31:27just helping people like in that treaty, that's what it is all about.

0:31:27 > 0:31:33Best of luck, best of luck. Thank you so much for coming in. It is

0:31:33 > 0:31:37incredible. Really grateful to you. Still to come...

0:31:37 > 0:31:41Paying an extra £100 for your council tax.

0:31:41 > 0:31:43Nearly all local authorities in England are putting prices up,

0:31:43 > 0:31:45because they're worried about balancing the books.

0:31:45 > 0:31:48We'll hear from one of them.

0:31:48 > 0:31:51And, would you be happy to have technology implanted into your body

0:31:51 > 0:31:53to boost what its capable of doing?

0:31:53 > 0:31:56We've a special report.

0:31:58 > 0:31:59Time for the latest news.

0:31:59 > 0:32:00Here's Annita McVeigh.

0:32:00 > 0:32:05The BBC News headlines this morning...

0:32:05 > 0:32:09Nearly a fifth of people working in Parliament have seen or experienced

0:32:09 > 0:32:13sexual harassment, according to a report due out this morning. A

0:32:13 > 0:32:17cross-party group of MPs cheered by the Leader of the Commons, Andrea

0:32:17 > 0:32:22Leadsom, is expected to recommend a new code of conduct, and independent

0:32:22 > 0:32:25complaints procedure and sanctions for inappropriate behaviour. The

0:32:25 > 0:32:28review was set up last year after several harassment claims against

0:32:28 > 0:32:30several MPs and staff.

0:32:30 > 0:32:3295% of councils in England are planning to raise

0:32:32 > 0:32:34council taxes in April, according to new research.

0:32:34 > 0:32:36A survey by the Local Government Information Unit found 80%

0:32:36 > 0:32:42were concerned about financial stability.

0:32:42 > 0:32:43The biggest pressure on budgets was demand

0:32:43 > 0:32:44for children's services, adult social care and

0:32:44 > 0:32:45housing and homelessness.

0:32:45 > 0:32:48The Government say the current system strikes a balance

0:32:48 > 0:32:50between relieving financial pressure and making sure taxpayers do not

0:32:50 > 0:32:54face excessive bills.

0:32:54 > 0:32:56Adult social care in England is a "Cinderella service",

0:32:56 > 0:32:59which is undervalued and whose workers are poorly paid, according

0:32:59 > 0:33:04to the public finance watchdog.

0:33:04 > 0:33:07The National Audit Office says the government is failing to deal

0:33:07 > 0:33:10with a shortage of care workers at a time when demand is increasing.

0:33:10 > 0:33:16Low rates of pay and the pressures of the job have been blamed.

0:33:16 > 0:33:18The Government says it's considering ways

0:33:18 > 0:33:19to overhaul the care sector.

0:33:19 > 0:33:21More people than ever, are seeking help for money problems.

0:33:21 > 0:33:24A new analysis by BBC News shows short-term borrowing has risen four

0:33:24 > 0:33:30times faster than wages over the last three years.

0:33:30 > 0:33:32Data from UK finance, which covers 10 of the UK's biggest

0:33:32 > 0:33:34banks and building societies, also revealed households had

0:33:34 > 0:33:4237-billion pounds of unsecured personal loans last year.

0:33:45 > 0:33:48That is a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:33:48 > 0:33:49Thank you.

0:33:49 > 0:33:54Here's some sport now with Hugh.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58Lizzy Yarnold has named great honour after being named as the flag bearer

0:33:58 > 0:34:02for Team GB at this year's opening ceremony at the Winter Olympics.

0:34:02 > 0:34:04The defending skeleton champion will lead the team out

0:34:04 > 0:34:06tomorrow, ahead of the 23rd Games in Pyeongchang and says it's

0:34:06 > 0:34:09the beginning of 'the biggest two weeks of her life.

0:34:09 > 0:34:12Moeanwhile, Yarnold's teammate Katie Ormerod has gone on social

0:34:12 > 0:34:17media overnight to say she will still compete

0:34:17 > 0:34:20in the 'Big Air' and 'Slopestyle' despite a wrist fracture suffered

0:34:20 > 0:34:22in a fall in training yesterday.

0:34:22 > 0:34:26Wembley was about half empty last night, but the majority of those

0:34:26 > 0:34:29who attended left happy, as Spurs made it through to the FA Cup fifth

0:34:29 > 0:34:33round with a 2-0 win over League Two's Newport County.

0:34:33 > 0:34:39And England capatain Eoin Morgan has backed his batsmen, after defeat

0:34:39 > 0:34:40against Australia in the Twenty20 Tri-Series opener.

0:34:40 > 0:34:42Morgan says they were "right" to take risks.

0:34:42 > 0:34:45But the execution "wasn't up to scratch."

0:34:45 > 0:34:50We will have more sport for you after 10am.

0:34:50 > 0:34:53Thank you, more from you throughout the morning.

0:34:53 > 0:34:56Next, if you live in England, you're likely to see an increase

0:34:56 > 0:34:58in your council tax, as cash-strapped local authorities,

0:34:58 > 0:35:00who look after services from schools to street cleaning,

0:35:00 > 0:35:02look to balance their books amid struggling times.

0:35:02 > 0:35:04According to a survey, around three-quarters of councils

0:35:04 > 0:35:07are planning a rise of at least 2.5%, which would mean more than £40

0:35:07 > 0:35:10on the average bill.

0:35:10 > 0:35:13Charges for things like parking and burials or cremations

0:35:13 > 0:35:18are also due to go up, depending on where you live.

0:35:18 > 0:35:20Let's speak to Councillor John Fuller - he's from

0:35:20 > 0:35:22the Local Government Association, which represents councils

0:35:22 > 0:35:24in England and Wales.

0:35:24 > 0:35:30He's also the Conservative leader of South Norfolk Council.

0:35:30 > 0:35:33We can also speak to Donna Jones, the Conservative leader

0:35:33 > 0:35:35of Portsmouth City Council, which is putting its council tax

0:35:35 > 0:35:40up by 4.9%.

0:35:40 > 0:35:47An increase of £44 for a Band B property. Thank you both for joining

0:35:47 > 0:35:52us this morning. Donna James, explain why you need that increase

0:35:52 > 0:35:57of 4.9% on council tax.The cost of employing people in the country,

0:35:57 > 0:36:01thanks to an increase in the minimum wage, has gone up significantly.

0:36:01 > 0:36:05Many of the people that work in adult social care across the United

0:36:05 > 0:36:11Kingdom are paid on the lower pay thresholds in the UK. So we have had

0:36:11 > 0:36:15over £1.5 million added to our wage bill here at the Council,

0:36:15 > 0:36:18particularly because of the increasing costs of adult social

0:36:18 > 0:36:23care. That has led to us having to increase the council tax, the same

0:36:23 > 0:36:26as many other councils across the country.Does that mean there won't

0:36:26 > 0:36:33be any cuts to services?We are having to make £4 million worth of

0:36:33 > 0:36:36savings for my City Council that I lead here in Portsmouth this year.

0:36:36 > 0:36:41We have been able to mitigate that down to just 4% of that £4 million

0:36:41 > 0:36:45is actually coming out in cuts to services. Instead, we have gone out

0:36:45 > 0:36:49and generated income as a way to mitigate the ongoing cuts from

0:36:49 > 0:36:55central government grants.John Fuller, from your perspective, why

0:36:55 > 0:37:01are these rises necessary across the whole of England?Donna has put her

0:37:01 > 0:37:05finger on part of the problem. Councils are having inflation

0:37:05 > 0:37:10problems, just like anyone else, but ours are worse. Nationally, the

0:37:10 > 0:37:14increase in getting people to the minimum wage will increase our pay

0:37:14 > 0:37:18bills by 5.5% alone over two years. The number of people needing adult

0:37:18 > 0:37:23social care is rising and it is more and more and more complicated cases

0:37:23 > 0:37:27with people living longer. That is a demographic change. In children's

0:37:27 > 0:37:33services, where pressures are very high, we see people of working age

0:37:33 > 0:37:35and children who frankly have some very profound disabilities as a

0:37:35 > 0:37:38result of surviving thanks to medical interventions, which we

0:37:38 > 0:37:42celebrate, but the councils are having to look after those as well.

0:37:42 > 0:37:46We have 18,000 councillors nationally, 380 councils, in about

0:37:46 > 0:37:50every street in this country and we are all busting a gut to try and

0:37:50 > 0:37:53keep council tax under control, innovating and doing all the right

0:37:53 > 0:37:59things. But ultimately, the cost pressures are such that in adult

0:37:59 > 0:38:03social care and children services in particular, those cost drivers are

0:38:03 > 0:38:07almost overwhelming the rest of the things we do.What about people who

0:38:07 > 0:38:10are watching this who are struggling? We have seen in the news

0:38:10 > 0:38:13today levels of personal debt are going up. For people who are

0:38:13 > 0:38:17struggling to make ends meet, their wages aren't going up but their

0:38:17 > 0:38:23costs are going up. This is the last thing they need to hear.Well,

0:38:23 > 0:38:27councils are in a difficult situation. Unlike other areas of

0:38:27 > 0:38:30government, defence, the health service and areas like that, we have

0:38:30 > 0:38:34do by law balance and books every single year. So there is nowhere to

0:38:34 > 0:38:38hide. -- balance our books. There are statutory services the law says

0:38:38 > 0:38:41we must deliver. Whilst the government is giving us a little bit

0:38:41 > 0:38:46more money this year, and they say they have given us an extra £2

0:38:46 > 0:38:49billion to help adult social care pressures wealthier, for example,

0:38:49 > 0:38:54some of that money came from ourselves. We've robbed Peter to pay

0:38:54 > 0:38:57Paul and we've kept it together. We've done as best they can. Council

0:38:57 > 0:39:00tax was frozen for quite a few years, but there is a catch up

0:39:00 > 0:39:06perfect now. To keep the show on the road, our councils and councillors

0:39:06 > 0:39:10need to balance the books and the statutory services which councils

0:39:10 > 0:39:13have to do, I'm afraid people will have to pay a little bit more. I

0:39:13 > 0:39:16don't want people to get the impression we are just sitting back

0:39:16 > 0:39:21and doing nothing. With 20-30% reductions in funding, we have had

0:39:21 > 0:39:25to reinvent ourselves for the 21st century. We have innovated and done

0:39:25 > 0:39:28as much as the camps but to keep things going, I'm afraid the public

0:39:28 > 0:39:33will have do help us deliver those services. Otherwise, adult social

0:39:33 > 0:39:36care and children services will overwhelm all the other things we

0:39:36 > 0:39:41do, and then who will collect the bins?Donna, you have been trying to

0:39:41 > 0:39:44reinvent things and do things in a different way in Portsmouth. This is

0:39:44 > 0:39:48small comfort to a struggling family watching this thinking, how am I

0:39:48 > 0:39:53going to find that extra cash?In Portsmouth I have really tried to

0:39:53 > 0:39:58keep our tax increases very low, but we are one of the lowest council tax

0:39:58 > 0:40:03collecting city councils in the country. There are only four council

0:40:03 > 0:40:06is run by the Conservatives in Portsmouth is one of them. I have

0:40:06 > 0:40:11really driven through this income generation strategy. Last year, we

0:40:11 > 0:40:14had to take £9 million out of our budget because of cuts from central

0:40:14 > 0:40:21government grants. I only had to pass £900,000 of that to reducing

0:40:21 > 0:40:25front line services. Instead, we created a property investment

0:40:25 > 0:40:28portfolio which is bringing in a gross of £6.5 million a year,

0:40:28 > 0:40:32setting up an energy company that will be trading by July and I have

0:40:32 > 0:40:35been able to give the public in Portsmouth a commitment, a firm

0:40:35 > 0:40:40commitment that we will cut weekly bin collections collections as many

0:40:40 > 0:40:43councils across the country have done, we will not pose any

0:40:43 > 0:40:46libraries. In fact, we are just opening one of our main library is

0:40:46 > 0:40:51now on Sunday, so it is open seven days a week. We undertook a £5

0:40:51 > 0:40:57million regeneration project of one of our city and museums. I have done

0:40:57 > 0:41:00this by bringing an entrepreneurial approach to running the City

0:41:00 > 0:41:05Council. Whilst I appreciate some councils will struggle to do that,

0:41:05 > 0:41:08particularly more rural councils, but in the cities we do have the

0:41:08 > 0:41:13potential to go out and generate income, to protect public services

0:41:13 > 0:41:18that is exactly I'm doing.You say you are a proud conservative council

0:41:18 > 0:41:22leader. Should this Conservative government be helping out councils

0:41:22 > 0:41:27like yours, giving you money from central government?I also sit on

0:41:27 > 0:41:32the city region 's board and the key city 's board of the LGA and on the

0:41:32 > 0:41:37national executive of the LGA. The local government Association have

0:41:37 > 0:41:40had some success in lobbying the government, to make them aware of

0:41:40 > 0:41:43that pressure, particularly around the social care costs, both adults

0:41:43 > 0:41:48and children. Therefore, over 18 months ago we were then told by the

0:41:48 > 0:41:53government we could then preset, raise the council tax specifically

0:41:53 > 0:41:57for adult social care. So there has been some movement from the

0:41:57 > 0:42:00government, in recognising the pressure councils are under. Of

0:42:00 > 0:42:03course, the austerity programme has not been easy for everybody. Now

0:42:03 > 0:42:07coming into our eighth year of the austerity programme. But for me, as

0:42:07 > 0:42:12a fiscal Conservative, the alternative of a government that

0:42:12 > 0:42:16didn't adopt a strong and comprehensive austerity programme

0:42:16 > 0:42:19would have meant the UK economy would have been in very poor shape

0:42:19 > 0:42:25by now. Look at economies like Greece and Spain, who failed to

0:42:25 > 0:42:29adopt austerity programmes, who are consistently spending more than the

0:42:29 > 0:42:33income every single year, eventually something has to give. There are

0:42:33 > 0:42:36economies have been substantially downgraded.Donna James, thank you

0:42:36 > 0:42:41for joining us. And we also heard from John Fuller. As we have been

0:42:41 > 0:42:44hearing, funding adult social care is one of the biggest pressures that

0:42:44 > 0:42:48councils are facing. We will be talking about that in depth in the

0:42:48 > 0:42:52next hour. Lots of you getting in touch with us after that

0:42:52 > 0:42:54conversation with those firefighters, who tackled the

0:42:54 > 0:42:58Grenfell Tower Fire and are now going to run the London Marathon to

0:42:58 > 0:43:02raise money for the community. Julie e-mailed to say these firemen are so

0:43:02 > 0:43:07inspiring and so very humble, I salute you all. Sophie got in touch,

0:43:07 > 0:43:10amazing Grenfell firefighters running the London Marathon, he rose

0:43:10 > 0:43:15and stars everyone. Raising for the children of the community. And

0:43:15 > 0:43:19another, Grenfell firefighters are heroes. And another says,

0:43:19 > 0:43:23outstanding to see firefighters doing even more for Grenfell. Barry

0:43:23 > 0:43:28said, Grenfell firefighters are running Marathon to raise money for

0:43:28 > 0:43:31children, these Parahi arose on all levels. You can get in touch with us

0:43:31 > 0:43:37on those stories and all the others using hashtag Victoria live.

0:43:37 > 0:43:38The human body is pretty remarkable.

0:43:38 > 0:43:41But imagine if you could upgrade it in someway, add new bits or change

0:43:41 > 0:43:44what your limbs were capable of doing or looked like.

0:43:44 > 0:43:45Would you do it?

0:43:45 > 0:43:48And should we be allowed to do what we want with our bodies?

0:43:48 > 0:43:51We sent the BBC's North America technology reporter, Dave Lee,

0:43:51 > 0:43:53to Austin in Texas to meet the "Body Hackers" -

0:43:53 > 0:43:56people who are determined to push the human body -

0:43:56 > 0:43:58and the law - into new territory.

0:43:58 > 0:44:01We must warn you, you may feel a little squeamish

0:44:01 > 0:44:05watching parts of his report.

0:44:05 > 0:44:08Being a body hacking enthusiast means enhancing

0:44:08 > 0:44:13yourself with technology or other visual elements.

0:44:13 > 0:44:20Some discovered this due to disability, you that

0:44:20 > 0:44:23-- using that as a starting point to experiment.

0:44:23 > 0:44:26To outsiders this might seem very much like an event

0:44:26 > 0:44:29that is on the fringes of society, but the people who come

0:44:29 > 0:44:31here see themselves very much like pioneers, both

0:44:31 > 0:44:35artistically and scientifically.

0:44:35 > 0:44:37Body hack con is into its third year.

0:44:37 > 0:44:40People come from all over the world to show off their work.

0:44:40 > 0:44:46So they are subdermal implants, they are just under the skin over

0:44:46 > 0:44:51the muscle, so there is a little bit of tissue movement allowance,

0:44:51 > 0:44:54but there is no discomfort involved.

0:45:05 > 0:45:08It's Myoelectric which means it's muscle powered, so when I flex my

0:45:08 > 0:45:11muscles in my residual limb it allows me to move the hand.

0:45:11 > 0:45:14I kind of like the idea that I can also make my arm

0:45:14 > 0:45:16match my personality by adding lights and colours and matching

0:45:16 > 0:45:19to my outfit and things like that.

0:45:19 > 0:45:23As well as the social scene here, this event is used to share research

0:45:23 > 0:45:24with the body hacking community.

0:45:24 > 0:45:28The subject matter this year included the prospect of implanting

0:45:28 > 0:45:31a device to make a man's penis vibrate as well as more complex

0:45:31 > 0:45:36ideas such as gene therapy.

0:45:36 > 0:45:39Amongst the amateurs, the US government.

0:45:39 > 0:45:40Justin Sanchez worked for a department within

0:45:40 > 0:45:42the military that experiments with new technology.

0:45:42 > 0:45:45Its inventions include self driving cars, GPS and most

0:45:45 > 0:45:49famously the Internet.

0:45:49 > 0:45:51Now it is turning its attention to body hacking.

0:45:51 > 0:45:55Part of coming to this meeting is sharing our knowledge

0:45:55 > 0:45:58on all of this with a community that is very much on the leading

0:45:58 > 0:45:59edge of all of this.

0:45:59 > 0:46:02One of the things that we showed here at this meeting

0:46:02 > 0:46:05is that there is a person who has difficulty recalling a list of 12

0:46:05 > 0:46:08words and without the brain simulation they could not recall

0:46:08 > 0:46:11the 12 words and with direct brain simulation they were able to recall

0:46:11 > 0:46:13those words in almost a seamless fashion.

0:46:13 > 0:46:15All 12 words in rapid succession, so that was really

0:46:15 > 0:46:20the breakthrough moment for us.

0:46:20 > 0:46:23If something is on the verge of being impossible we will start

0:46:23 > 0:46:27to explore that area.

0:46:27 > 0:46:35It is permanent, they don't fade, they are going to be purple

0:46:37 > 0:46:40for ever, so it was definitely something I had to think

0:46:40 > 0:46:48about for quite some time.

0:46:56 > 0:46:59I really became interested in performance art, body art,

0:46:59 > 0:47:07body modification, when I discovered I was a bad painter in art school.

0:47:13 > 0:47:15The hacks being done in this scene are pushing interpretations

0:47:15 > 0:47:20of the law into new areas.

0:47:20 > 0:47:23This man, who calls himself meow, has had his travel card chip

0:47:23 > 0:47:26embedded into his hand.

0:47:26 > 0:47:30Authorities in Australia want to force him to remove it.

0:47:30 > 0:47:35I think to be honest the reason they are taking me to court is not

0:47:35 > 0:47:38so much like out of malice, it is out of just like bureaucracy.

0:47:38 > 0:47:41It is easier for them to take me to court than it is for

0:47:41 > 0:47:42them to update the law.

0:47:42 > 0:47:45As is typical of this type of technology regulators

0:47:45 > 0:47:48and lawmakers don't really know how to handle some of the things we have

0:47:48 > 0:47:50heard discussed here.

0:47:50 > 0:47:53The question is, should human beings be allowed to do whatever they want

0:47:53 > 0:47:57with their own bodies?

0:47:57 > 0:47:59One person who firmly believes we should be allowed

0:47:59 > 0:48:07to experiment is Dane Lewis.

0:48:08 > 0:48:09-- Dana.

0:48:09 > 0:48:12She has type one diabetes and was so fed up with poor devices

0:48:12 > 0:48:14from pharmaceutical companies she set about making

0:48:14 > 0:48:15what is essentially a replacement pancreas.

0:48:15 > 0:48:19And what this is is a small computer with a radio that reads data

0:48:19 > 0:48:23from my insulin pump and my glucose monitor does

0:48:23 > 0:48:31the maths for me and sends the command back to the insulin pump

0:48:31 > 0:48:34to automatic insulin delivery if any changes I needed.

0:48:34 > 0:48:38It is not that we don't want to buy a commercial product that is great.

0:48:38 > 0:48:40We would love to buy a commercial product that works for us.

0:48:40 > 0:48:43But these products that come to market our one size fits

0:48:43 > 0:48:45all and we have the technology, off-the-shelf hardware,

0:48:45 > 0:48:46to do this ourselves.

0:48:46 > 0:48:47So why not?

0:48:47 > 0:48:51Dayna has consulted with the US drugs regulator - the FDA.

0:48:51 > 0:48:53Her low-risk device isn't considered a treatment and crucially

0:48:53 > 0:48:54she is not allowed to sell it.

0:48:54 > 0:48:57The same basic stipulations would apply in the UK.

0:48:57 > 0:48:59But others here are apparently less worried about regulation and safety.

0:48:59 > 0:49:02This is Aaron Trawick.

0:49:02 > 0:49:10He runs a company that claims it can cure HIV, aids and herpes.

0:49:13 > 0:49:16Disturbingly he told us he plans to bring his drugs to Aids

0:49:16 > 0:49:17patients in Venezuela.

0:49:17 > 0:49:21All we can do is we can say to these people we know that you don't have

0:49:21 > 0:49:23access to these medications, we know that the people

0:49:23 > 0:49:26who are taking care of you also can't get access to these

0:49:26 > 0:49:27medications for you.

0:49:27 > 0:49:34You know these people are desperate, you know these people are poor,

0:49:34 > 0:49:38and so you say, "OK, these are the ideal people for us

0:49:38 > 0:49:40to try our untested, unregulated, potentially unsafe drug?"

0:49:40 > 0:49:43All I can say is they don't have any other options.

0:49:43 > 0:49:45Is that enough of a reason to give someone a drug

0:49:45 > 0:49:49that might not be saved?

0:49:49 > 0:49:50-- be safe.

0:49:50 > 0:49:52There is no reason to believe it isn't safe.

0:49:52 > 0:49:54There is no reason to believe it is.

0:49:54 > 0:49:55This is my point here.

0:49:55 > 0:49:57People are not guinea pigs.

0:49:57 > 0:49:59Just because they are ill, just because they are dying,

0:49:59 > 0:50:02does not make them guinea pigs for your experiment.

0:50:02 > 0:50:04We are not talking about them as guinea pigs.

0:50:04 > 0:50:05You can't even test.

0:50:05 > 0:50:08There are not even reagents in that country to be able to test

0:50:08 > 0:50:09whether the treatment works.

0:50:09 > 0:50:12All we know is if it works, they don't die.

0:50:12 > 0:50:14The FDA told the BBC companies like this

0:50:14 > 0:50:22are considered to be dangerous.

0:50:26 > 0:50:27A spokeswoman wouldn't say if that firm

0:50:27 > 0:50:28is being investigated.

0:50:28 > 0:50:32So it has been a very interesting couple of days and I think we have

0:50:32 > 0:50:34seen the good and bad of this industry.

0:50:34 > 0:50:37On the good we have seen people taking control of their health care

0:50:37 > 0:50:40in a way that is cheaper and often more innovative than the traditional

0:50:40 > 0:50:42channels would allow, but on the other side

0:50:42 > 0:50:45we have seen people I think with very questionable motives

0:50:45 > 0:50:47and not a lot of concern for the consequences

0:50:47 > 0:50:52of what they are doing.

0:50:52 > 0:50:54Coming up...

0:50:54 > 0:50:56Westminster needs to urgently reform how it deals with bulling

0:50:56 > 0:51:01and sexual harassment.

0:51:01 > 0:51:02-- bullying.

0:51:02 > 0:51:04That's the view of a cross party group of MPs.

0:51:04 > 0:51:07We'll be hearing from one of them, and also from the journalist

0:51:07 > 0:51:09who accused Theresa May's former deputy Damian Green

0:51:09 > 0:51:10of inappropriate behaviour.

0:51:10 > 0:51:12For parents of premature babies, being separated from their child

0:51:12 > 0:51:17when they're first born is often the hardest thing.

0:51:17 > 0:51:20Now a new study suggests involving mums and dads in their hospital care

0:51:20 > 0:51:24improves the babies wellbeing.

0:51:24 > 0:51:32Six months ago, this programme went to Leeds Hospital,

0:51:33 > 0:51:41where they were trialling such a scheme.

0:51:42 > 0:51:48Born at 23 weeks, Lola Pozner chances of survival were slim. They

0:51:48 > 0:51:50painted a really bad picture

0:51:50 > 0:51:57that she could have all sorts of problems.

0:51:57 > 0:52:01problems.In the intensive care unit it is terrifying it is something

0:52:01 > 0:52:07very few people get to see full she was tiny and had wires coming out of

0:52:07 > 0:52:12everywhere. She had a twin brother but he did not survive. She has

0:52:12 > 0:52:19given me something positive to focus on. As soon as she left intensive

0:52:19 > 0:52:24care, mum Anna took over from the nurses.One job we have to do is to

0:52:24 > 0:52:29take her temperature may be every three, four hours. At the monitor on

0:52:29 > 0:52:35the wall and going in under her arm. St James' Park was the first in the

0:52:35 > 0:52:42UK to introduce family integrated care.-- hospital. It is about

0:52:42 > 0:52:48getting the family at the centre of the team, caring for the baby. They

0:52:48 > 0:52:58are taught to feed their babies and taught temperature taking.Do you

0:52:58 > 0:53:03know what you are looking for?It has to be within a certain range.

0:53:03 > 0:53:08The idea is not new. Family integrated care was introduced in

0:53:08 > 0:53:13the former soviet union in the 1970s. Then it was a solution to the

0:53:13 > 0:53:18shortage of nurses. In Leeds, they say it is not. Be honest, where you

0:53:18 > 0:53:26can send it was a cost cutting measure?Never. -- were you

0:53:26 > 0:53:31concerned? It takes more time to get the parents competent.The problems

0:53:31 > 0:53:37of having a premature baby are well-known. The bonding process is

0:53:37 > 0:53:42harder to establish. Breast-feeding rates are lower and there is a

0:53:42 > 0:53:47financial impact with car parking, meals, and loss of earnings will

0:53:47 > 0:53:54stop an average day in a neonatal unit costs families £2000. -- 's

0:53:54 > 0:53:58Day. Parents of premature babies are twice as likely to suffer from

0:53:58 > 0:54:04postnatal depression.It is not rocket science. It is such a

0:54:04 > 0:54:08straightforward thing to do, to allow parents to look after their

0:54:08 > 0:54:12babies. The fact is that families are going home more confident and

0:54:12 > 0:54:18more able to care for their babies and that means a lot.For Anna, it

0:54:18 > 0:54:26meant bringing her baby home weeks earlier than expected.I love her

0:54:26 > 0:54:32full she is amazing, my little miracle. -- I love her. You are,

0:54:32 > 0:54:34aren't you?

0:54:34 > 0:54:36Well, here to talk about this idea is Victoria Russell.

0:54:36 > 0:54:39She's here with her daughter, Nancy who was born at 26 weeks

0:54:39 > 0:54:41and spent four months in neonatal care.

0:54:41 > 0:54:43Richard Hobden sadly lost his son Noah, who was born prematurely

0:54:43 > 0:54:50setup a charity called Noah's Big Charity inhis honou.

0:54:50 > 0:54:51-- in his honour.

0:54:51 > 0:54:53And Dr Chris Gale is a Neonatal consultant at Chelsea

0:54:53 > 0:54:58and Westminster Hospital in London.

0:54:58 > 0:55:03Thank you all for carrying, especially you, Nancy. Victoria, for

0:55:03 > 0:55:08people who have not been into a neonatal unit, an experienced that,

0:55:08 > 0:55:13just share with people what that was like and how difficult it can be for

0:55:13 > 0:55:18parents?It is so difficult. You have a baby way before you are

0:55:18 > 0:55:22expected to and then you are in this very sterile environment, surrounded

0:55:22 > 0:55:29by doctors and your baby is in a plastic box and you cannot touch

0:55:29 > 0:55:34your baby. It is very difficult to bond. It is terrifying. You do not

0:55:34 > 0:55:38know if you're going to take your baby home at the end of it.Other

0:55:38 > 0:55:42mums have skin to skin contact and are breast-feeding and you do not

0:55:42 > 0:55:49have that time.My first hold after ten days, it was a military

0:55:49 > 0:55:53operation to get her out of the incubator with all the wires and

0:55:53 > 0:56:03hold her.Richard, I want to bring you in. Your son was in neonatal for

0:56:03 > 0:56:09several months, wasn't he?Yes, 91 days. Unfortunately, due to the

0:56:09 > 0:56:14nature of his birth, my wife suffered a cardiac arrest at home, a

0:56:14 > 0:56:20heart attack, and as a result they needed to deliver no at 24 weeks and

0:56:20 > 0:56:26six days. He was rushed... He was taken to Basildon University

0:56:26 > 0:56:33Hospital and rushed in. At that age he was one of the youngest will stop

0:56:33 > 0:56:38the lady on the programme had a child at 23 weeks but at 24 weeks

0:56:38 > 0:56:44and unplanned is a harrowing process. The teams were fantastic. A

0:56:44 > 0:56:51lot of it is a waiting game. Unfortunately, 91 days, certain

0:56:51 > 0:56:57tests were being undertaken because of his age. It was proved his brain

0:56:57 > 0:57:00did not develop. Unfortunate decisions had to be made and he

0:57:00 > 0:57:07subsequently passed away. That is not to say, the care we saw was

0:57:07 > 0:57:12exquisite. In all NHS areas there are staff shortages but the staff

0:57:12 > 0:57:18are working there. It is not just a 12 hour shift. It is now before and

0:57:18 > 0:57:22an hour after. We have become very good friends with nurses who are on

0:57:22 > 0:57:31the unit helping no. As result of his we felt we needed to give

0:57:31 > 0:57:37something back. -- Noah. We support Basildon and Royal London Borough is

0:57:37 > 0:57:41to provide additional equipment to help others who have found

0:57:41 > 0:57:45themselves in a similar position to ourselves.I know that your

0:57:45 > 0:57:51experience was a little bit more hands on like this suggestion.It

0:57:51 > 0:57:55was very hands-on. I was so thankful that we were encouraged when she was

0:57:55 > 0:58:00very young to take part in her care. Changing nappy, which sounds normal,

0:58:00 > 0:58:10but it is a really big deal when they are so small. To give

0:58:11 > 0:58:15medication. Had I not done that on the ward I would have been terrified

0:58:15 > 0:58:21to have done that at home. It was a really big difference.You had a

0:58:21 > 0:58:30less hands-on experience.My wife came out of hospital, I believe it

0:58:30 > 0:58:33was 18 day she was in hospital recovering from the actual heart

0:58:33 > 0:58:40attack. When she came to unit, being separated from Noah for an extended

0:58:40 > 0:58:44period was very hard. Coming back in contact with him was not

0:58:44 > 0:58:50straightforward. It was not going to be. Very quickly they offered skin

0:58:50 > 0:58:55to skin care, kangaroo care, and it was a nominal. Reflecting back on

0:58:55 > 0:59:04it, the change in Lydia, it was amazing. It is a military operation.

0:59:04 > 0:59:11We needed to macro nurses to orchestrate getting him out of the

0:59:11 > 0:59:19incubator. -- two nurses. He was on ventilator support. We have some

0:59:19 > 0:59:24cherished photos of Lydia holding him that mean the world. In terms of

0:59:24 > 0:59:30what I understand about the report and how it helps both parents and

0:59:30 > 0:59:35babies is great. As far as I am concerned, it is within reason. It

0:59:35 > 0:59:40depends on the baby, the parents can the time available. Certain parents

0:59:40 > 0:59:47travel in from a distance. Your report was talking to Chris earlier

0:59:47 > 0:59:52about dedication of six hours a day. My employer was very good and I

0:59:52 > 0:59:57could have an extended period of work. Grandparents were phenomenal.

0:59:57 > 1:00:01We had an 18-month-old daughter at the time. Other people are not that

1:00:01 > 1:00:06fortunate. Juggling it while trying to be there for a child in an

1:00:06 > 1:00:10intensive environment is hard.Let's bring in Chris. I am interested to

1:00:10 > 1:00:18know, why is it important to dedicate six hours a day? It is not

1:00:18 > 1:00:24going to be practical for everyone, is it?The trial that was done is a

1:00:24 > 1:00:27remarkable achievement. It was a fabulous piece of research showing

1:00:27 > 1:00:34an innovative way of testing parents involvement. It is a huge

1:00:34 > 1:00:38achievement. That is why the six hour requirement was there, and that

1:00:38 > 1:00:42was to try to make it as experimental as possible so they

1:00:42 > 1:00:46could say any effect was due to having parents that and delivering

1:00:46 > 1:00:50the care as part of the clinical team for a good portion of the day.

1:00:50 > 1:00:54What is the difference between what is done now and what is recommended

1:00:54 > 1:00:59in the report?

1:00:59 > 1:01:06There are places doing this, like in Leeds.Do you want to play with

1:01:06 > 1:01:13that? Sorry, carry on.Most of the other units in the UK have a lesser

1:01:13 > 1:01:16approach of family centred care, which involves parents as much as

1:01:16 > 1:01:22possible with skin to skin kangaroo care, changing nappies and things,

1:01:22 > 1:01:26but fall short of some of the clinical tasks which are part of

1:01:26 > 1:01:32family integrated care.Is there a risk if parents are administrative

1:01:32 > 1:01:38-- administering drugs?That is why people have waited for this research

1:01:38 > 1:01:41to say, is it safe, are there problems question at this research

1:01:41 > 1:01:46didn't find any adverse effects, no problems they identified. They had

1:01:46 > 1:01:50nearly 2000 babies in this study across 25 intensive care units in

1:01:50 > 1:01:54Canada, New Zealand and Australia. This is a very big study. This is

1:01:54 > 1:02:02the kind of information and I NHS units have been waiting for. But I

1:02:02 > 1:02:05would like to echo what Richard said. I think it is about the

1:02:05 > 1:02:09parents themselves, in many ways. Many parents will be able to provide

1:02:09 > 1:02:13nearly as much time is that, due to other children or other caring

1:02:13 > 1:02:19responsibilities. Some parents may not want to do this.My friend, it

1:02:19 > 1:02:22is a difficult environment to be in. I'm afraid we have to bring this to

1:02:22 > 1:02:26a close, but thank you for coming in. You have been very, very good!

1:02:26 > 1:02:30Now time for a weather update, incredibly cold at the moment and I

1:02:30 > 1:02:33guess it is staying that way.

1:02:33 > 1:02:36You are right in many ways, incredibly cold in

1:02:36 > 1:02:37You are right in many ways, incredibly cold in the south-east

1:02:37 > 1:02:43but as we had through the day, not as cold as yesterday, but gets cold

1:02:43 > 1:02:48again after that. The forecast today is less cold, we have rain pushing

1:02:48 > 1:02:52south-eastwards, accompanied by a fair bit of cloud. In the south-east

1:02:52 > 1:02:56itself, started off on a dry note with some sunshine. The weather from

1:02:56 > 1:02:59producing the cloud and rain and drizzle is slowly sinking south, so

1:02:59 > 1:03:06the cloud building and it nice and sunny start being eradicated. Behind

1:03:06 > 1:03:08it, Northern Ireland and Scotland, a lot of bright weather, some

1:03:08 > 1:03:13sunshine. The north-east. And a lot of showers, rain showers in the

1:03:13 > 1:03:18north and west. Snow showers as we push up into the hills. Through this

1:03:18 > 1:03:21evening and overnight, a weather front rejuvenates, bringing heavy

1:03:21 > 1:03:24rain in northern England, Wales and south-west England. As it pushes

1:03:24 > 1:03:29into the south-east, behind it a cold air follows on a lot of

1:03:29 > 1:03:32showers, wintry showers in the north and west of the UK, but also we will

1:03:32 > 1:03:38see some of those in parts of Wales, the Midlands and the south-east.

1:03:43 > 1:03:44Hello.

1:03:44 > 1:03:45it's Thursday, it's 10 o'clock.

1:03:45 > 1:03:46I'm Chloe Tilley.

1:03:46 > 1:03:47Changing the culture at Westminster.

1:03:47 > 1:03:50One in five people working there has reported being sexually harassed

1:03:50 > 1:03:50over the last 12 months.

1:03:50 > 1:03:52over the last 12 months.

1:03:52 > 1:03:54It's also about putting the complainant at the heart

1:03:54 > 1:03:58of the process, giving them back control, because very often,

1:03:58 > 1:04:01particularly in the case of sexual crimes that have been committed,

1:04:01 > 1:04:04that individual feels that control has been taken away from them.

1:04:04 > 1:04:08We'll hear from the writer, Kate Maltby, who accused

1:04:08 > 1:04:12the Prime Minister's former deputy Damian Green of making

1:04:12 > 1:04:14inappropriate advances to her - a claim he's always denied.

1:04:14 > 1:04:17She says the proposals are a "step in the right direction",

1:04:17 > 1:04:21but there is still work to do.

1:04:21 > 1:04:23The shortage of care workers in the UK has been

1:04:23 > 1:04:25criticised in a new report.

1:04:25 > 1:04:27So, is enough being done to look after vulnerable

1:04:27 > 1:04:28people in our communities?

1:04:28 > 1:04:34Councils say care workers' wages are pushing up costs.

1:04:34 > 1:04:40We've had over £1.5 million added to our wage bill here at the council,

1:04:40 > 1:04:43particularly because of the increase in costs of adult social care. That

1:04:43 > 1:04:49has led to us having to increase the council tax.

1:04:49 > 1:04:52We'll hear from the owner of a small care home,

1:04:52 > 1:04:53who says he struggles to recruit staff.

1:04:53 > 1:04:57And if you were a fan of the Spice Girls, you'll have paid

1:04:57 > 1:05:02a lot less to see them live than people who managed to get

1:05:02 > 1:05:05to get tickets to see Taylor Swift, for example.

1:05:05 > 1:05:07The BBC has found average ticket prices for big arena gigs have

1:05:07 > 1:05:09doubled since the late 1990s.

1:05:09 > 1:05:11So, have the ticket prices put you off?

1:05:11 > 1:05:13Or do you think it's worth the cost?

1:05:13 > 1:05:15Get in touch in the usual ways.

1:05:19 > 1:05:21Good morning.

1:05:21 > 1:05:23It's 9:05am.

1:05:23 > 1:05:25Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom,

1:05:25 > 1:05:26with a summary of today's news.

1:05:26 > 1:05:30Good morning.

1:05:30 > 1:05:32Nearly a fifth of people working in parliament have seen

1:05:32 > 1:05:34or experienced sexual harassment, according to a report

1:05:34 > 1:05:37due out this morning.

1:05:37 > 1:05:40A cross-party group of MPs, chaired by the Leader

1:05:40 > 1:05:42of the Commons, Andrea Leadsom, is expected to recommend

1:05:42 > 1:05:44a new code of conduct, an independent complaints procedure

1:05:44 > 1:05:45and tougher sanctions for inappropriate behaviour.

1:05:45 > 1:05:48The review was set up last year after several harassment claims

1:05:48 > 1:05:49against MPs and staff.

1:05:49 > 1:05:5195% of councils in England are planning to raise

1:05:51 > 1:05:57council taxes in April, according to new research.

1:05:57 > 1:05:59A survey by the Local Government Information Unit found 80%

1:05:59 > 1:06:01were concerned about financial stability.

1:06:01 > 1:06:04The biggest pressure on budgets was demand

1:06:04 > 1:06:05for children's services, adult social care and

1:06:05 > 1:06:07housing and homelessness.

1:06:07 > 1:06:10The LGA says Council leaders are doing all they can to limit

1:06:10 > 1:06:17the pressure on taxpayers.

1:06:17 > 1:06:20I don't want people to get the impression that we are just sitting

1:06:20 > 1:06:24back doing nothing. With 20-30% reductions in funding, we have had

1:06:24 > 1:06:29to reinvent ourselves for the 21st Century Fox we have innovated and

1:06:29 > 1:06:32done as much as we can but to keep things going, I'm afraid the public

1:06:32 > 1:06:37will have two help us deliver those services, because otherwise adult

1:06:37 > 1:06:40social care, children services will overwhelm all the other things we do

1:06:40 > 1:06:43and then who will collect the bins?

1:06:43 > 1:06:45Adult social care in England is a "Cinderella service",

1:06:45 > 1:06:47which is undervalued and whose workers are poorly paid, according

1:06:47 > 1:06:49to the public finance watchdog.

1:06:49 > 1:06:52The National Audit Office says the government is failing to deal

1:06:52 > 1:06:55with a shortage of care workers at a time when demand is increasing.

1:06:55 > 1:06:58Low rates of pay and the pressures of the job have been blamed.

1:06:58 > 1:06:59The Government says it's considering ways

1:06:59 > 1:07:02to overhaul the care sector.

1:07:02 > 1:07:05School anti-obesity programmes don't work,

1:07:05 > 1:07:09according to a report in the British Medical Journal.

1:07:09 > 1:07:11Initiatives like encouraging healthy eating and additional exercise

1:07:11 > 1:07:13are unlikely to have any impact on childhood obesity,

1:07:13 > 1:07:14say researchers.

1:07:14 > 1:07:17They looked at 600 primary school pupils over the course of a year,

1:07:17 > 1:07:19all of whom were taking part in an anti-obesity programme.

1:07:19 > 1:07:22But they found no improvement in diet or activity levels.

1:07:22 > 1:07:24That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:07:24 > 1:07:26More at 10:30am.

1:07:26 > 1:07:28Thank you very much.

1:07:28 > 1:07:31Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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1:07:36 > 1:07:39Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:07:39 > 1:07:41Hello again.

1:07:41 > 1:07:43The Winter Olympics are underway - before we've even had

1:07:43 > 1:07:45the opening ceremony.

1:07:45 > 1:07:47The news from this morning is that Lizzie Yarnold

1:07:47 > 1:07:49will be the Team GB flag-bearer tomorrow,

1:07:49 > 1:07:52voted for by her team-mates.

1:07:52 > 1:07:54The defending Skeleton champion says she's "really excited",

1:07:54 > 1:08:00despite the freezing temperatures in PyeongChang.

1:08:00 > 1:08:03You can watch the Opening Ceremony live on BBC One tomorrow.

1:08:03 > 1:08:04coverage starts at 10:30am.

1:08:04 > 1:08:07A decision on whether 47 Russian athletes and coaches can take part

1:08:07 > 1:08:12in the Winter Olympics will be made tomorrow morning.

1:08:12 > 1:08:14The Russians believe they have been wrongfully excluded

1:08:14 > 1:08:16by the International Olympic Committee.

1:08:16 > 1:08:19They include the 28 athletes who had their life bans lifted

1:08:19 > 1:08:22by the Court of Arbitration for Sport last week.

1:08:22 > 1:08:25The World Anti-Doping Agency says it will be frustrating if the 47

1:08:25 > 1:08:30are allowed to compete.

1:08:30 > 1:08:35What is important is to be sure that those who are invited, there is no

1:08:35 > 1:08:39suspicion of doping on them. And that I am comfortable, because I

1:08:39 > 1:08:43know the work that has been done by the commission chair, to which we

1:08:43 > 1:08:49were a party to. I know they have reviewed all the evidence that is

1:08:49 > 1:08:53existing, and only those on which there was no suspicion were invited.

1:08:53 > 1:08:58It is a different question for those 47. That is a completely different

1:08:58 > 1:09:02thing, because they do not fall into that category of athletes on which

1:09:02 > 1:09:06there is no suspicion, and it would be extremely frustrating to have

1:09:06 > 1:09:11them at the games, but my hope is CAS will rule on that and it will

1:09:11 > 1:09:13not happen.

1:09:13 > 1:09:15Jonathan Joseph will be back in the England starting XV

1:09:15 > 1:09:18for Saturday's Six Nations match with Wales at Twickenham.

1:09:18 > 1:09:20He comes in at outside centre, with Ben Te'o

1:09:20 > 1:09:21dropping to the bench.

1:09:21 > 1:09:24Joseph made an impact when he came on in England's victory over

1:09:24 > 1:09:28Italy at the weekend.

1:09:28 > 1:09:30The other change, sees Danny Care become England's

1:09:30 > 1:09:32most capped scrum-half, in place of the injured Ben Youngs.

1:09:32 > 1:09:35Over 7,000 Newport County fans made the trip to Wembley last night,

1:09:35 > 1:09:37but left disappointed as the League Two Minnows failed

1:09:37 > 1:09:40to make it through to the FA Cup fifth round.

1:09:40 > 1:09:45Newport held out for nearly half an hour,

1:09:45 > 1:09:47against Premier League side Spurs, before falling behind

1:09:47 > 1:09:52to a Dan Butler own goal.

1:09:52 > 1:09:54Erik Lamela doubled Tottenham's lead with his first goal

1:09:54 > 1:09:56in almost a year and a half.

1:09:56 > 1:10:03Their reward is a trip to League One's Rochdale.

1:10:03 > 1:10:06The FA Cup is always completely different to the Premier League or

1:10:06 > 1:10:12other competitions. Of course, you want to win and you want to win

1:10:12 > 1:10:16playing well and you want to win scoring a lot of goals, but I think

1:10:16 > 1:10:23the most important thing now is to go to the next age.So many

1:10:23 > 1:10:26travelling on a Wednesday night, it's exceptional. I was deafening

1:10:26 > 1:10:30over to thank and show my appreciation, because they are huge

1:10:30 > 1:10:33for us and I can't thank them enough. -- I was definitely.

1:10:33 > 1:10:36Arsenal Women boosted their hopes of a top-two finish in the Women's

1:10:36 > 1:10:39Superleague, with a comfortable victory at Liverpool Ladies.

1:10:39 > 1:10:44That is all be sport for now, more later in the hour.

1:10:44 > 1:10:45Thank you.

1:10:45 > 1:10:48Ever since allegations of sexual harassment engulfed in Westminster

1:10:48 > 1:10:50last year politicians from all sides have been trying

1:10:50 > 1:10:51to address the issue.

1:10:51 > 1:10:54A report released this morning says almost a fifth of people working

1:10:54 > 1:10:55in parliament have witnessed or experienced sexual

1:10:55 > 1:10:57harassment in the past year.

1:10:57 > 1:11:03The survey commissioned by a cross-party group of MPs,

1:11:03 > 1:11:05chaired by the Leader of the Commons, Andrea Leadsom -

1:11:05 > 1:11:08has also called for tougher sanctions for anyone found guilty

1:11:08 > 1:11:10of wrongdoing and a new code of behaviour for MPs,

1:11:10 > 1:11:16peers and staff, and even visitors to the Palace of Westminster.

1:11:16 > 1:11:19With me now is the former Conservative Party

1:11:19 > 1:11:21activist Kate Maltby, who accused the ex-Deputy

1:11:21 > 1:11:23Prime Minister Damian Green of inappropriate behaviour.

1:11:23 > 1:11:26He denied it, but a Cabinet Office inquiry found her allegations

1:11:26 > 1:11:29were "plausible".

1:11:29 > 1:11:30In Westminster, the Green party's co-leader Caroline Lucas,

1:11:30 > 1:11:33who is a member of the cross-party working group brought

1:11:33 > 1:11:38together by the Leader of the Commons Andrea Leadsom.

1:11:38 > 1:11:45Thank you both for joining us this morning. Caroline, I want to speak

1:11:45 > 1:11:51to you first of all, about working at Westminster and the sort of

1:11:51 > 1:11:55stories that you hear about this culture at Westminster, just to

1:11:55 > 1:11:59enlighten our viewers. Westminster is a very toxic

1:11:59 > 1:12:04environment. We know it is an environment that reeks of privilege,

1:12:04 > 1:12:07and that is why, in a sense, this report is so important. That

1:12:07 > 1:12:13headline you gave, that shocking figure, one in five people having

1:12:13 > 1:12:16experienced sexual harassment or witnessed it, that ought to be a

1:12:16 > 1:12:21real wake-up call. Parliament should be a beacon of best practice when it

1:12:21 > 1:12:24comes to working practices. People should be able to have a right to

1:12:24 > 1:12:27expect a safe and dignified working environment, and the fact we are

1:12:27 > 1:12:31having to work so hard just to catch up is a pretty strong indictment of

1:12:31 > 1:12:37the processes we had to date.Kate, for you, does this report go

1:12:37 > 1:12:41foreigners?This report is a step in the right direction. I think all of

1:12:41 > 1:12:49us who raise complaints... -- does this report go far enough? Those of

1:12:49 > 1:12:52us who raised complaints feel vindicated by the results of this

1:12:52 > 1:12:56survey and how seriously it is being taken by Caroline and her peers. We

1:12:56 > 1:13:01were told that we were making a fuss about nothing, that there was a

1:13:01 > 1:13:04witchhunt, that this was all hysteria and actually a serious

1:13:04 > 1:13:08survey of people who work in Parliament Day in and day out has

1:13:08 > 1:13:12found one in five reporting sexual harassment, two in five reporting

1:13:12 > 1:13:16bullying, that tells me that we have highlighted a serious problem. It is

1:13:16 > 1:13:22great it is going to be addressed. Caroline, when we look at this

1:13:22 > 1:13:26report and pull it apart, there are some interesting things. For

1:13:26 > 1:13:32example, the power will be taken away from MPs, effectively

1:13:32 > 1:13:35investigating on claims against the party, this will go to an

1:13:35 > 1:13:39independent person, which is a significant step forward?It is a

1:13:39 > 1:13:43major step forward. We know the fact it has been precisely the concern of

1:13:43 > 1:13:47having to report it to a political party that has put off many people

1:13:47 > 1:13:51from making claims, making reports. It has also meant people have been

1:13:51 > 1:13:54worried that their own political careers might be held into question.

1:13:54 > 1:13:59It has been a real break on people coming forward. Given that we know

1:13:59 > 1:14:02that the problem of underreporting is so huge, I think anything we can

1:14:02 > 1:14:09do to give people greater confidence that their reporting will be done to

1:14:09 > 1:14:11an entirely independent process is something that can only be a

1:14:11 > 1:14:15positive step forward.Some people may find it bizarre reading this

1:14:15 > 1:14:20this morning, compulsory training to help MPs understand and prevent

1:14:20 > 1:14:25harassment. Really? Do MPs need to go on training courses for that?You

1:14:25 > 1:14:28have just heard from Kate and so many other cases that I think

1:14:28 > 1:14:32indicate yes indeed, MPs need to go on training courses. I would like to

1:14:32 > 1:14:35have seen that to have been mandatory right from this

1:14:35 > 1:14:38Parliament. What we have agreement for is it should be mandatory in the

1:14:38 > 1:14:46next Parliament. Training doesn't imply that everybody is an inherent

1:14:46 > 1:14:48perpetrator, but people should know what best practices on what the law

1:14:48 > 1:14:53is. Any MP kicking up a fuss about going for some training is probably

1:14:53 > 1:14:56precisely the MP that should be first in the queue that needs it.I

1:14:56 > 1:15:00absolutely agree. I would say there has been a response to this which

1:15:00 > 1:15:05goes along the lines of, well we elect MPs so they must be great

1:15:05 > 1:15:07people who are highly responsible and if we have sent them to

1:15:07 > 1:15:11Parliament they must know everything already. No MP enters parliament

1:15:11 > 1:15:16knowing exactly how to do their job perfectly. Just as no one starts a

1:15:16 > 1:15:20new job already knowing how the office works. That doesn't mean that

1:15:20 > 1:15:25the people we have elected not responsible or to show great promise

1:15:25 > 1:15:29care about their constituents but anyone who joins Parliament has an

1:15:29 > 1:15:32induction in, for example, how to use the IT services, how the lobby

1:15:32 > 1:15:38division works.And of course, you would know how to use an MIT system

1:15:38 > 1:15:41but some people would say is it not just common sense of what is

1:15:41 > 1:15:45appropriate behaviour and what is not?I hoped it was common sense,

1:15:45 > 1:15:49but as Caroline said, it has already been very clear there are serious

1:15:49 > 1:15:53cases throughout Parliament, and there are MPs who simply are not

1:15:53 > 1:15:57living in the 21st century. Parliament is a special case. A lot

1:15:57 > 1:16:01of people having this argument will say Parliament doesn't need to be

1:16:01 > 1:16:04regulated like a modern work environment, it is not a corporate

1:16:04 > 1:16:10office, people don't have, don't need a chat in the same way. That

1:16:10 > 1:16:15view, frankly, comes from people who have an exceptional vision

1:16:15 > 1:16:20Parliament, Lucy being an MP has something mystical, something

1:16:20 > 1:16:23entitled. Part of a glorious legacy in which you are called to be

1:16:23 > 1:16:26amongst the elite by virtue of having become an MP. What we are

1:16:26 > 1:16:31saying, and I think what this report is really all about, is saying it is

1:16:31 > 1:16:35not a club, it is not a boarding school club any more for the chosen

1:16:35 > 1:16:39people. It is a working environment. The great majority of people who

1:16:39 > 1:16:47work there are not MPs and it needs to live in the 21st-century.

1:16:50 > 1:16:55What about the fact that complainants and alleged

1:16:55 > 1:17:00perpetrators details will be kept from the public? Is that the right

1:17:00 > 1:17:08move? Quite controversial, as Norman Smith was saying earlier.We want to

1:17:08 > 1:17:11protect the complainant and give them power in this process. So many

1:17:11 > 1:17:15times that when it comes to dealing with sexual harassment, their power

1:17:15 > 1:17:21is taken away. The problem of making the alleged perpetrator's name

1:17:21 > 1:17:25public early on is that it does not take much public investigation to

1:17:25 > 1:17:32work out who the likely complainant is. Offices are very small. We have

1:17:32 > 1:17:37tried to keep the balance right. I hope we have. It is the beginning of

1:17:37 > 1:17:45a process was to what other people think. Our advice from experts was

1:17:45 > 1:17:50it should be a complainant led process. In order to protect their

1:17:50 > 1:17:54anonymity as much as possible up until finding is made.Back

1:17:54 > 1:18:01confidentiality must be met. Do you agree with the confidentiality?It

1:18:01 > 1:18:06is always the case that perpetrators of sexual harassment are serial

1:18:06 > 1:18:12offenders. Only when it is made known to others have courage to come

1:18:12 > 1:18:19forward. That is my concern.Thanks to you both.

1:18:19 > 1:18:22New figures just released show that January was the second worst month

1:18:22 > 1:18:24on record for hospital waiting times at Accident and Emergency

1:18:24 > 1:18:25Departments in England.

1:18:25 > 1:18:28With more we're joined by our Health Editor, Hugh Pym.

1:18:28 > 1:18:32Thank you for coming to speak to us. Probably not surprising in light of

1:18:32 > 1:18:37what you have been reporting in recent months.It was a difficult

1:18:37 > 1:18:42January for the whole of the NHS was real stresses and strains early in

1:18:42 > 1:18:46the New Year. It is often really difficult with people coming back

1:18:46 > 1:18:51from holiday and a real strain on social care and GPs and a real

1:18:51 > 1:18:56strain on weights in hospitals. Hospitals are very full.

1:18:56 > 1:19:01Difficulties finding beds. Very well publicised. Ambulances stacking up

1:19:01 > 1:19:05in the car park and unable to discharge their patients. Long wait

1:19:05 > 1:19:12seen around the UK for that these are figures for England for January.

1:19:12 > 1:19:16They show a slight improvement on the previous January, just dead at

1:19:16 > 1:19:3185% of patients being seen within four hours. -- just short of 85%.

1:19:31 > 1:19:36Record numbers of people waiting 12 hours on trolleys that is another

1:19:36 > 1:19:40gauge of how well the NHS is performing. A serious situation

1:19:40 > 1:19:45still there. Across the whole month, maybe not as bad as people thought

1:19:45 > 1:19:51but certainly one of what patients will expect and watch the NHS is

1:19:51 > 1:19:59expected to deliver.-- and what the NHS.

1:19:59 > 1:20:03We ask if enough is being done to look after them vulnerable people in

1:20:03 > 1:20:08our communities.

1:20:08 > 1:20:12Going to a big arena gig these days to see a superstar costs big money,

1:20:12 > 1:20:14far more money in fact than it used to.

1:20:14 > 1:20:17Average ticket prices have doubled in the last 20 years,

1:20:17 > 1:20:19and even when you take inflation into account they're

1:20:19 > 1:20:20still up more than 25%.

1:20:20 > 1:20:21So what's going on?

1:20:21 > 1:20:24Is it down to greedy promoters, stars needing the cash,

1:20:24 > 1:20:26or fans demanding more from their concerts?

1:20:26 > 1:20:34Our entertainment reporter Chi Chi Izundu is here to explain.

1:20:34 > 1:20:42Thank you for coming down. Why is it saying it is more expensive?This

1:20:42 > 1:20:48report was done by BBC 5Live who had spoken to the national Arena

1:20:48 > 1:20:52Association. They found the cost price of a ticket at face value,

1:20:52 > 1:20:58what is set by the promoter, we're not talking up looking fees or admin

1:20:58 > 1:21:05costs or postage and packaging. That has gone up faster than inflation.

1:21:05 > 1:21:09Let's take an example of a big gig. Let's have a look at the Spice

1:21:09 > 1:21:16Girls. Back in 1998 you would be expected to pay £23 50 to see those

1:21:16 > 1:21:21five lovely ladies. It sounds like a bargain? It does. I am sure most

1:21:21 > 1:21:29fans would be happy to pay that. Let's skip forward. We are not

1:21:29 > 1:21:33adding on all the added costs of admin, booking fees and postage and

1:21:33 > 1:21:39packaging. It is what is set by the promoter and artists. Skip to Taylor

1:21:39 > 1:21:45Swift and heard gig that is going on at Wembley Stadium the same venue as

1:21:45 > 1:21:50the Spice Girls, it'll be upwards of £62. We must say that putting on a

1:21:50 > 1:21:55tour is not a cheap affair. Let's think about how much goes into it.

1:21:55 > 1:22:04Are talking equipment. For Beyonce, hurt Formation tour had to charter

1:22:04 > 1:22:11five 747 is just to get stuff over here. Then you get artists like

1:22:11 > 1:22:16Adele, who stand on a stage and sings beautifully. I know people who

1:22:16 > 1:22:22had to pay £95 just to see that.I went to watch her. I was very lucky

1:22:22 > 1:22:33before she had to pull out over her boys. I paid £55. I hope that is not

1:22:33 > 1:22:40that bad then.

1:22:40 > 1:22:45that bad then. -- her voice.We are talking sound, we are talking

1:22:45 > 1:22:49dancers, people who do the lighting. That all cost money. That is why it

1:22:49 > 1:22:53costs so much was that this is the main way that artists make their

1:22:53 > 1:22:56money. They don't really make it from selling CDs anymore for the

1:22:56 > 1:23:00play have to feed the people who work for them.

1:23:02 > 1:23:04Well, joining us now is Kerri Watt.

1:23:04 > 1:23:06She waited nearly 20 years to see Britney Spears,

1:23:06 > 1:23:08but when her chance came, she couldn't afford the tickets.

1:23:08 > 1:23:10And we have also have two UK promoters.

1:23:10 > 1:23:12Richard Dyer, who is the director of Skiddle,

1:23:12 > 1:23:14and Paul Hutton, co-founder of Crosstown Concerts,

1:23:14 > 1:23:18which is also a record label.

1:23:18 > 1:23:23Hello. Thank you for coming in. How much this is down to streaming? That

1:23:23 > 1:23:29is what I want to know, Richard and Paul. That is what often blamed.

1:23:29 > 1:23:38There is less money available. Sidi sells do not exist any more really.

1:23:38 > 1:23:48-- CD. Paper streams around one or to macro sense, effectively. It is

1:23:48 > 1:23:53certainly a good excuse. Artists are demanding higher fees. The way that

1:23:53 > 1:23:58the agencies and the artists model works is there is not a price list

1:23:58 > 1:24:01for these people for is that you have to guess how much it works as

1:24:01 > 1:24:08if they are guessing the same amount of money.So, you can push it? There

1:24:08 > 1:24:13is a dividing line between normal concerts and the high end pop

1:24:13 > 1:24:23superstars. Normal gigs, say you live in London, every venue has a

1:24:23 > 1:24:29pricing strategy. Once they get up to superstar level, it is just the

1:24:29 > 1:24:35Wild West. You have major companies bidding to buy shows. Who gets the

1:24:35 > 1:24:42show is who pays the most? How do you generate more income? You put up

1:24:42 > 1:24:46the ticket price that is the first thing that happens. The second thing

1:24:46 > 1:24:50with the price comparisons, is the nature to our concerts were. I

1:24:50 > 1:24:55remember going to Wembley Stadium in 1992. There were no screens. I was

1:24:55 > 1:25:03somewhere near the back. Now you turn up, there are massive video

1:25:03 > 1:25:09screens. The expectation level has gone up.

1:25:12 > 1:25:16gone up. Oasis at Knebworth was £22.50. Now it would be more than

1:25:16 > 1:25:21Britney Spears. Be more than anyone. They were the greatest band in the

1:25:21 > 1:25:28world at that time. It would not really reflect on how that ticket

1:25:28 > 1:25:34price would come.I know that you waited 20 years to wait to see

1:25:34 > 1:25:38Britney Spears. This is amazing. Why did it take so long for you to try

1:25:38 > 1:25:43to get your hands on tickets?Did you not have the cash? I did not

1:25:43 > 1:25:52have the opportunity to go. I had someone writing to me saying, she is

1:25:52 > 1:25:59coming to London. Let's do it. The 15-year-old inside of me was

1:25:59 > 1:26:05excited. I preregistered for the tickets. We thought maybe £80, £85.

1:26:05 > 1:26:11When they came on sale, we could not do anything for under 160.It was

1:26:11 > 1:26:17crazy. Is that a case of, I cannot justify this or you could not afford

1:26:17 > 1:26:21to do it?Technically we could have paid the price for the tickets. We

1:26:21 > 1:26:26thought it was extortionate. As much as we love it, it is a couple of

1:26:26 > 1:26:34hours of entertainment. Out of principle it seemed really wrong.Do

1:26:34 > 1:26:36you think, listening to what these guys are saying about audience

1:26:36 > 1:26:39expectations, do you accept it is not a concert you go to any more, it

1:26:39 > 1:26:45is a whole live event?It is an experience. A few years ago, it was

1:26:45 > 1:26:49quite topical that these artist did need to be paid and the concerts

1:26:49 > 1:26:54were how they were going to do that. We accepted that but it feels like

1:26:54 > 1:27:00they have taken it to another level and the price is through the roof.

1:27:00 > 1:27:06Richard, is that fair? Yes. You don't go and see a gig. I am not

1:27:06 > 1:27:14really a promoter of eight ticket sales website. We see everything

1:27:14 > 1:27:19from the fun and right through to the Arena is. With the Arena is,

1:27:19 > 1:27:23like Paul said it is supply and demand. Lionel Richie has gone on

1:27:23 > 1:27:29sale. I want to go and see him, as does my mum. People want to go and

1:27:29 > 1:27:34see Lionel Richie. They know they can sell those they can get away

1:27:34 > 1:27:38with charging 87 quid to stand in a football stadium that the only way

1:27:38 > 1:27:43it will go down is if people do not want to go.Is it the fault of the

1:27:43 > 1:27:50fans? If they did not buy the tickets, prices would have to fall.

1:27:50 > 1:27:55In any form of entertainment and there is a price history. It is £80

1:27:55 > 1:28:03to watch Chelsea play. Bands are like football teams in that they

1:28:03 > 1:28:07trade on people's loyalty. On sky TV, they pay millions of pounds a

1:28:07 > 1:28:13year that they do not really need gate revenue. Merchandising sales

1:28:13 > 1:28:20are plummeting but they need to sell tickets in concerts. It is generally

1:28:20 > 1:28:27quite structured. The industry is regulated. We know that people come

1:28:27 > 1:28:30to concerts and we need to keep them engaged. When is the last time you

1:28:30 > 1:28:37went to a concert, apart from Britney Spears?A proper big one, a

1:28:37 > 1:28:42couple of years ago. People who occasionally go... They think they

1:28:42 > 1:28:48can justify pushing up the prices. Yes, it is a special occasion for a

1:28:48 > 1:28:54treat. The other fact coming into play -- the other factor coming into

1:28:54 > 1:28:57play, a decent percentage of people looking to buy tickets for any of

1:28:57 > 1:29:02the major shows will be getting fleeced by the secondary ticket

1:29:02 > 1:29:07market.And that is a big issue. Often when you do a search online,

1:29:07 > 1:29:12that is where you get sent to.The first three things that come up on

1:29:12 > 1:29:16shows I have on sale, like we have Jack right on sale at the moment. On

1:29:16 > 1:29:39Google at this very moment, it will be get me in, Voagpgp or Stubhub.

1:29:39 > 1:29:44be get me in, Voagpgp or Stubhub. -- Viagogo. Now, what they do, is they

1:29:44 > 1:29:49run the ticket sales consecutively are not concurrently. If you go on

1:29:49 > 1:29:54the site to buy a ticket for Britney Spears at Ukip Robey get £455 at the

1:29:54 > 1:30:03first ticket you would come to would-be £55.

1:30:06 > 1:30:11would-be £55. -- £455, the ticket. I'm gutted at the Rita or tickets.

1:30:11 > 1:30:22As a mother, you do your best to get it. -- Ora. One direction concerts

1:30:22 > 1:30:26cost £400 for my daughters to attend.

1:30:26 > 1:30:27Still to come:

1:30:27 > 1:30:30Programmes promoting healthy eating and exercise in schools is unlikely

1:30:30 > 1:30:32to have an impact on childhood obesity rates - that's

1:30:32 > 1:30:33according to a new study.

1:30:33 > 1:30:34We'll have the details.

1:30:34 > 1:30:37And from Nigeria, we bring you the story of 13-year-old Fatama,

1:30:37 > 1:30:42who was abducted by militant group Boko Haram, not once, but twice.

1:30:42 > 1:30:44Time for the latest news.

1:30:44 > 1:30:48Here's Annita McVeigh.

1:30:48 > 1:30:52The headlines now on BBC News:

1:30:52 > 1:30:55Nearly a fifth of people working in parliament have seen

1:30:55 > 1:30:57or experienced sexual harassment, according to a report

1:30:57 > 1:30:58due out this morning.

1:30:58 > 1:31:00A cross-party group of MPs - chaired by the Leader

1:31:00 > 1:31:03of the Commons, Andrea Leadsom - is expected to recommend

1:31:03 > 1:31:05a new code of conduct, an independent complaints procedure

1:31:05 > 1:31:06and tougher sanctions for inappropriate behaviour.

1:31:06 > 1:31:09The review was set up last year after several harassment claims

1:31:09 > 1:31:15against MPs and staff.

1:31:15 > 1:31:22A&E for last month show it was one of the most difficult on record.

1:31:22 > 1:31:28Targets missed the 30th month in a row. A total of 85.3% of patients

1:31:28 > 1:31:33were seen in four hours, that is marginally better than the 85.1%

1:31:33 > 1:31:38recorded in December. The data from NHS England shows more than 2

1:31:38 > 1:31:41million patients came to Robin Le Mesurier in the month, a rise of

1:31:41 > 1:31:44over 5% in the year. Particular problems were experienced with

1:31:44 > 1:31:46waiting on trolleys.

1:31:46 > 1:31:4895% of councils in England are planning to raise

1:31:48 > 1:31:50council taxes in April, according to new research.

1:31:50 > 1:31:52A survey by the Local Government Information Unit found 80%

1:31:52 > 1:31:54were concerned about financial stability.

1:31:54 > 1:31:55The biggest pressure on budgets was demand

1:31:55 > 1:31:57for children's services, adult social care and

1:31:57 > 1:32:00housing and homelessness.

1:32:00 > 1:32:02The LGA says Council leaders are doing all they can to limit

1:32:02 > 1:32:10the pressure on taxpayers.

1:32:11 > 1:32:14More people than ever, are seeking help for money problems.

1:32:14 > 1:32:17A new analysis by BBC News shows short-term borrowing has risen four

1:32:17 > 1:32:20times faster than wages over the last three years.

1:32:20 > 1:32:23Data from UK finance, which covers ten of the UK's biggest

1:32:23 > 1:32:25banks and building societies, also revealed households had

1:32:25 > 1:32:33£37 billion of unsecured personal loans last year.

1:32:34 > 1:32:37New pictures show the moments after a Florida couple discovered

1:32:37 > 1:32:39a two-and-a-half-metre alligator in their swimming pool.

1:32:39 > 1:32:41The man and wife woke on Tuesday to find a reptile

1:32:41 > 1:32:45bathing in their pool.

1:32:45 > 1:32:48They believe the animal came from a nearby canal.

1:32:48 > 1:32:50Police officers attended the residence shortly afterwards,

1:32:50 > 1:32:57and waited for wildlife officials to arrive and remove it.

1:32:57 > 1:32:59I'm sure they were very relieved about that.

1:32:59 > 1:33:03That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:33:03 > 1:33:11Thank you, that is not really what you want! Let me bring you to some

1:33:11 > 1:33:15comments about council tax. One is, where do people find the extra money

1:33:15 > 1:33:19from? Councils of cutback in the last three years to save money,

1:33:19 > 1:33:22services have already been cut and now it is Joe public to foot the

1:33:22 > 1:33:26bill. Another, what is the point of putting wages up if they take it

1:33:26 > 1:33:31back anyway through council tax? Council tax going up, the

1:33:31 > 1:33:36Conservatives are the party of high taxes. And Paul an e-mail, I wish

1:33:36 > 1:33:39someone would ask one the council is how much wages and expenses they

1:33:39 > 1:33:42have and how much their pay rises will be... Don't think they are on

1:33:42 > 1:33:47minimum wage. Dawn also got in touch, we need to balance our books

1:33:47 > 1:33:51so the public will have to pay question that you go, the shirt off

1:33:51 > 1:33:55my back, it's all I've got left. Sorry, it was bought from a charity

1:33:55 > 1:33:59shop. Keep your comments coming on that story and all the others we are

1:33:59 > 1:34:00discussing.

1:34:00 > 1:34:01Here's some sport now with Hugh.

1:34:01 > 1:34:03Lizzie Yarnold has been named as the flagbearer

1:34:03 > 1:34:06for Team GB at this year's Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony.

1:34:06 > 1:34:08The defending skeleton champion will lead the team out

1:34:08 > 1:34:10tomorrow, ahead of the 23rd Games in Pyeongchang, and says it

1:34:10 > 1:34:15will mark the start of "the biggest two weeks of her life".

1:34:15 > 1:34:17Meanwhile, Yarnold's team-mate Katie Ormerod has gone on social

1:34:17 > 1:34:19media overnight to say she will still compete

1:34:19 > 1:34:22in the Big Air and Slopestyle, despite a wrist fracture suffered

1:34:22 > 1:34:29in a fall in training yesterday.

1:34:29 > 1:34:32After his impact as a substitute in England's win over Italy last

1:34:32 > 1:34:35weekend, Jonathan Joseph will start at outside centre for the visit

1:34:35 > 1:34:38of Wales on Saturday.

1:34:38 > 1:34:42The other English change sees Danny Care start at scrum half.

1:34:42 > 1:34:45The FA Cup dream ended for Newport County last night,

1:34:45 > 1:34:47but they did bow out at Wembley.

1:34:47 > 1:34:53The League Two side were beaten 2-0 by Spurs.

1:34:53 > 1:34:59That is all be sport for now, more after 11.

1:34:59 > 1:35:04Thank you.

1:35:04 > 1:35:07Now as we've heard, council tax is set to rise by an average of £100

1:35:07 > 1:35:09in nearly all local authorities in England.

1:35:09 > 1:35:11With 80% of councils fearing for their balance sheets.

1:35:11 > 1:35:13That's according to the Local Government Information Unit.

1:35:13 > 1:35:16It also found that social care was the greatest long-term

1:35:16 > 1:35:17pressure on council budgets, as the Conservative leader

1:35:17 > 1:35:21at Portsmouth City Council Donna Jones told me earlier.

1:35:21 > 1:35:23Well, the cost of employing people in the country,

1:35:23 > 1:35:27thanks to an increase in the minimum wage, has gone up significantly.

1:35:27 > 1:35:32Many of the people that work in adult social care

1:35:32 > 1:35:37across the United Kingdom are paid on the lower pay threshold

1:35:37 > 1:35:42in the UK, and so we've had over £1.5 million added to our wage bill

1:35:42 > 1:35:44here at the Council, particularly because of the increasing costs

1:35:44 > 1:35:46in adult social care.

1:35:46 > 1:35:48That has led to us having to increase the council tax,

1:35:48 > 1:35:51the same as many other councils across the country.

1:35:51 > 1:35:54Today's report also outlines just how difficult it has become to find

1:35:54 > 1:35:57care staff generally, but also attracting nurses has

1:35:57 > 1:36:01become a real issue as Tammy Ardron a lead nurse at Northfields nursing

1:36:01 > 1:36:05home in Sheffield explains.

1:36:05 > 1:36:10I don't think it is as attractive as maybe the NHS where you have

1:36:10 > 1:36:16got your salary packages, enhanced rates of pay,

1:36:16 > 1:36:17unsociable hours.

1:36:17 > 1:36:18And I think it's hard work.

1:36:18 > 1:36:25It's constant, you have got to be on the ball 24 hours a day.

1:36:26 > 1:36:34So what needs to be done to change things?

1:36:34 > 1:36:38Lets talk now to Mike Padgham who runs a small care home and day

1:36:38 > 1:36:40centre and says he struggles to recruit staff, and Labour MP

1:36:40 > 1:36:43Barbara Keeley who is shadow minister for Health and Social Care.

1:36:43 > 1:36:46We did ask the government to join us but they refused.

1:36:46 > 1:36:50I want to ask you first of all, Mike, the challenges you face

1:36:50 > 1:36:56running a small care home, with retaining staff question at yes,

1:36:56 > 1:36:59good morning.In the 30 odd years I've been involved in social care,

1:36:59 > 1:37:02it's the most challenging time I have ever known. I think there are

1:37:02 > 1:37:06less people wanting to work in social care. Attracting them into a

1:37:06 > 1:37:10sector that is hard work, underfunded makes it difficult and

1:37:10 > 1:37:14we are competing with lots of other interesting careers as well. That is

1:37:14 > 1:37:17why it is getting more and more difficult for us, particularly with

1:37:17 > 1:37:25nurses.What are we talking about pay wise, £7.50 now?We pay above

1:37:25 > 1:37:28that, we pay for brakes, but we are competing with social services and

1:37:28 > 1:37:37health. And it is a strange thing, we are delivering health on their

1:37:37 > 1:37:41behalf and struggling to keep up. That is the challenge, it squeezes

1:37:41 > 1:37:45us in the middle foot we would like to pay more than the national living

1:37:45 > 1:37:49wage but struggle.If you could pay more, do think it would be enough to

1:37:49 > 1:37:53retain staff or is it more than that?I think that is part of it but

1:37:53 > 1:37:57there has to be a big leap, we might be looking at a national... A

1:37:57 > 1:38:01minimum wage for social care staff. We need to mature we have enough

1:38:01 > 1:38:05people attracted into the sector, so people don't have to work such long

1:38:05 > 1:38:08shifts but that is another challenge. If the government could

1:38:08 > 1:38:12do one thing, there are many things it could do, but one thing is to say

1:38:12 > 1:38:17to people social care is a good career to go into. Most of what we

1:38:17 > 1:38:20see is bad news for people don't want to work in our sector.Would

1:38:20 > 1:38:24you make of Mike's idea about the national wage for social care staff?

1:38:24 > 1:38:27I think that is a really good idea may be what the government has to

1:38:27 > 1:38:36think about doing for them during the general election in 2000 is --

1:38:36 > 1:38:402017, we pledge to pay £8 an hour and my local council pays more than

1:38:40 > 1:38:44the national minimum wage to our care staff, as a way of rewarding

1:38:44 > 1:38:48them, so they do stay.That is great on paper and I'm sure many people

1:38:48 > 1:38:52watching this with a fantastic, but where does the money come from? We

1:38:52 > 1:38:55have been reporting the council tax rises today on the comments read out

1:38:55 > 1:38:58from any of our viewers, saying we can't afford these rises. Where is

1:38:58 > 1:39:04it coming from?Indeed. What the government has not done this fund

1:39:04 > 1:39:08these pay rises but pushed it out onto social care levy, which council

1:39:08 > 1:39:13taxpayers have to pay. Really, if we have a national living wage policy,

1:39:13 > 1:39:17the government should pay it, fund it.Let me read you this, a

1:39:17 > 1:39:20statement from the Department of Health and social care.

1:39:20 > 1:39:22"Everyone is entitled to good quality care and we recognise

1:39:22 > 1:39:25there are challenges - that's why we will shortly publish

1:39:25 > 1:39:27a health and care workforce strategy to address these issues.

1:39:27 > 1:39:30We've provided an extra £2 billion funding to the sector and this week

1:39:30 > 1:39:33announced a further £150 million for next year - in the summer

1:39:33 > 1:39:35we will outline plans to reform social care to ensure

1:39:35 > 1:39:40it is sustainable for the future."

1:39:40 > 1:39:45That is all in the future. The £2 million is only starting to come in

1:39:45 > 1:39:49this year. It is spread across councils in a particular way. It is

1:39:49 > 1:39:55less in the following years. The 150 million, just announced yesterday,

1:39:55 > 1:40:01is £14 per year, per person who received social careful what on

1:40:01 > 1:40:05earth could you do with £14 question that it would paper about an hour's

1:40:05 > 1:40:08care. Silly amounts like that won't help. I think the other thing we

1:40:08 > 1:40:13were debating in the House of Commons yesterday if there is no

1:40:13 > 1:40:17stability in this funding, it is one. The government...If that is

1:40:17 > 1:40:22the case, if you wanted to have more stable funding, that is tax rises,

1:40:22 > 1:40:27isn't it?It will be.Which people can't afford.There have been a

1:40:27 > 1:40:32number of surveys which said people would pay an extra penny on national

1:40:32 > 1:40:35insurance or tax but they need to be sure they are getting good quality

1:40:35 > 1:40:38care and that is not what they are getting at the moment.You were

1:40:38 > 1:40:41shaking your head when I read that statement from the government.I am

1:40:41 > 1:40:46very disappointed. As you said at the beginning, I have been in care

1:40:46 > 1:40:50three decades and each government, I'm not being political, have pushed

1:40:50 > 1:40:54social care onto someone else. I think a green paper, I'm not that

1:40:54 > 1:40:58optimistic anyone will tackle it. It is today we need to tackle it, not

1:40:58 > 1:41:01in the summer. We know things need to be done, let's get on with it.

1:41:01 > 1:41:05Too much to many reports. We have said social care is in crisis for a

1:41:05 > 1:41:12long time, the government

1:41:30 > 1:41:33needs to get into it. I wrote to the Minister to say, look at social care

1:41:33 > 1:41:36on the front line and see it isn't working.What about your concerns as

1:41:36 > 1:41:38we head towards Brexit, looking at people coming from the European

1:41:38 > 1:41:41Union to come in that sector, and many do. Presumably that is an

1:41:41 > 1:41:45additional worry for you?I am not an expert on Brexit. We have some

1:41:45 > 1:41:46nurses from overseas, some from Portugal, and we find attracting

1:41:46 > 1:41:48nurses from overseas is tougher since we announced we will leave

1:41:48 > 1:41:48nurses from overseas is tougher since we announced we will leave. We

1:41:48 > 1:41:51need workers not just from Europe but overseas, otherwise we will come

1:41:51 > 1:41:53to a standstill. Remind people we provide a service to help free up

1:41:53 > 1:41:56the health service. If we not there, it is tougher for everybody.One

1:41:56 > 1:41:59thing to say to the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, what would you say

1:41:59 > 1:42:02question at get him to look at the front line but also, get on with it.

1:42:02 > 1:42:04We don't need any more reports or commissions.We have been saying

1:42:04 > 1:42:07social care is in crisis for nearly 30 years. It is about time we did

1:42:07 > 1:42:12something today.Thank you ever so much for speaking to us.

1:42:12 > 1:42:15Still to come...

1:42:15 > 1:42:20Is promoting healthy eating and exercise in schools are best way to

1:42:20 > 1:42:23tackle childhood obesity? Report says these programmes are unlikely

1:42:23 > 1:42:26to have an impact. More in the next unit.

1:42:26 > 1:42:29Last year in Nigeria there were more female suicide bombers than have

1:42:29 > 1:42:31ever been seen in a country before.

1:42:31 > 1:42:34Most were forced to become bombers by the militant group Boko Haram -

1:42:34 > 1:42:35some were even children.

1:42:35 > 1:42:37The women went onto kill more 1000 people.

1:42:37 > 1:42:40We can now bring you the story of 13-year-old Fatama,

1:42:40 > 1:42:47who was abducted by Boko Haram, not once, but twice.

1:42:56 > 1:43:00If you really want to get to Paradise, this, they say,

1:43:00 > 1:43:06is such an easy thing to do.

1:43:25 > 1:43:32It goes against everything in the society that we live in.

1:43:33 > 1:43:37Children as young as five are strapped with explosives

1:43:37 > 1:43:39and sent into mosques and into markets, into homes.

1:43:39 > 1:43:43Some are actually sent back into their own homes and the idea

1:43:43 > 1:43:47is to really strike out in any way that they can just to continue this

1:43:47 > 1:43:53carnage, this horror.

1:44:23 > 1:44:25They didn't even have guns, and at first

1:44:25 > 1:44:27I had no idea they were Boko Haram fighters.

1:44:27 > 1:44:29These young men were inspired by the ideology

1:44:29 > 1:44:30and the rhetoric of Boko Haram.

1:44:30 > 1:44:33We haven't seen a single female suicide bomber that has offered

1:44:33 > 1:44:39herself up for a suicide mission.

1:44:45 > 1:44:49They give you a choice.

1:44:49 > 1:44:53Marry a fighter or go on a mission.

1:44:53 > 1:45:01I told them I don't want to marry because I am still too young.

1:45:01 > 1:45:06The older girls tell us, they don't care how old you are.

1:45:06 > 1:45:09If you marry one of them, they will go to you for private

1:45:09 > 1:45:12affairs day and night.

1:45:13 > 1:45:18It's an incentive for the young men to remain in the group if they can

1:45:18 > 1:45:21get wives so they form these family units within the movement.

1:45:21 > 1:45:23A lot of the girls who reject the offer of marriage

1:45:23 > 1:45:28are sent on missions.

1:45:28 > 1:45:32They were brainwashing them and telling them

1:45:32 > 1:45:35they were doing this for Allah and they were going straight

1:45:35 > 1:45:36to heaven and all this stuff.

1:45:36 > 1:45:39They are also being told that if you don't do it,

1:45:39 > 1:45:47we are going to kill you.

1:45:57 > 1:46:01I just like the normal Koran teaching.

1:46:01 > 1:46:07I find their teachings hard to follow.

1:46:07 > 1:46:10But even though I don't understand properly I don't think that killing

1:46:10 > 1:46:17someone could ever be a lawful act.

1:46:17 > 1:46:21A lot of people have not had much education of any kind,

1:46:21 > 1:46:23whether it is western or Islamic.

1:46:23 > 1:46:26Learning about the Koran doesn't mean that you are learning

1:46:26 > 1:46:29about Islam because it's teaching of the Koran in isolation

1:46:29 > 1:46:32of everything else.

1:46:32 > 1:46:39The rest of the teaching is ideology.

1:46:39 > 1:46:45When your time comes they tell you to look for a place filled

1:46:45 > 1:46:49with nonbelievers like a church or a crowded marketplace.

1:46:49 > 1:46:56And when you detonate your bomb they say you will enter Paradise.

1:46:56 > 1:46:59On my way into town I decided to ask the first people

1:46:59 > 1:47:02I met to untie the vest.

1:47:02 > 1:47:09But the first people I met were also members of Boko Haram.

1:47:09 > 1:47:13I spent a month with another group of fighters in a different camp and,

1:47:13 > 1:47:19just as before, I refused to marry.

1:47:19 > 1:47:24They tied their own bomb on me and sent me right back out.

1:47:24 > 1:47:28This time I ran.

1:47:28 > 1:47:33If I was caught again I felt that I would surely be killed.

1:47:33 > 1:47:41I ran and ran and when I stopped I found myself on a farm.

1:47:44 > 1:47:47I asked the farmers to help me take off the vest and to throw it

1:47:47 > 1:47:50back into the forest.

1:47:50 > 1:47:53But they were afraid.

1:47:53 > 1:47:57Of me.

1:47:57 > 1:48:00There is nobody in the North East that has not had some

1:48:00 > 1:48:03experience with Boko Haram, whether directly or indirectly.

1:48:03 > 1:48:07Almost nobody.

1:48:07 > 1:48:15Most people have lost somebody as a result of Boko Haram.

1:48:20 > 1:48:24I think they look at the act rather than the girl and they think, "Well,

1:48:24 > 1:48:26this is a young person who is willing to eliminate

1:48:26 > 1:48:27the whole community.

1:48:27 > 1:48:30How can we then take her back?"

1:48:30 > 1:48:38These are kids first of all and these are victims.

1:48:46 > 1:48:49So, you are taken against your will, you have lived with these people

1:48:49 > 1:48:51in horrendous conditions away from your parents, guardians,

1:48:51 > 1:48:52everybody you know.

1:48:52 > 1:48:54Then you are strapped with explosives, you come back

1:48:54 > 1:48:58to the community and by the grace of God it doesn't go off and then

1:48:58 > 1:49:00the community rejects you.

1:49:00 > 1:49:08It's very, very sad.

1:49:13 > 1:49:16School programmes encouraging children to take more exercise

1:49:16 > 1:49:18and eat healthily are unlikely to have any real effect

1:49:18 > 1:49:22on childhood obesity, research published in

1:49:22 > 1:49:28the British Medical Journal suggests.

1:49:28 > 1:49:35More than 600 primary school pupils in the West Midlands took

1:49:35 > 1:49:37part in a 12-month anti-obesity programme, which found no

1:49:37 > 1:49:44improvements in the children's diet or activity levels.

1:49:44 > 1:49:45The researchers said families,

1:49:45 > 1:49:47communities and the food industry probably had more of an influence

1:49:47 > 1:49:49than school initiatives.

1:49:49 > 1:49:51Public health officials said they were working with industry

1:49:51 > 1:49:52to make food healthier.

1:49:52 > 1:49:55Joining me now in the studio is Tam Fry from the National Obesity Forum,

1:49:55 > 1:49:57and in Birmingham, one of the co-authors of the research,

1:49:57 > 1:50:00Dr Miranda Pallan - from the University of Birmingham.

1:50:00 > 1:50:08I want to start with you, what happened in this study and why did

1:50:08 > 1:50:14it not work?We recruited over 50 primary schools to take part in the

1:50:14 > 1:50:19study in the West Midlands. In half of them, we asked the teachers and

1:50:19 > 1:50:24staff in schools to deliver a package of activities over a 12

1:50:24 > 1:50:29month period that this included increasing children's physical

1:50:29 > 1:50:34activity daily in schools, so trying to get the more active every day. We

1:50:34 > 1:50:38also asked them to deliver cooking workshops for children and their

1:50:38 > 1:50:47parents to attend. They also went on a course that was run by Aston

1:50:47 > 1:50:50Villa, whereby they learned about healthy eating and physical

1:50:50 > 1:50:55activity.That happened over 12 months. Was the idea that it worked

1:50:55 > 1:50:58effectively in school but when the judge went back home it all started

1:50:58 > 1:51:06to fall apart?The hope was, the activities in school, that were in

1:51:06 > 1:51:11school, would influence children's lifestyles, so their diet and

1:51:11 > 1:51:16physical activity not just in school but actually throughout the week and

1:51:16 > 1:51:21throughout the 24-hour period. What we found was actually in terms of

1:51:21 > 1:51:26preventing weight gain, there was no difference between the children in

1:51:26 > 1:51:29the schools that had this package of activities compared with the

1:51:29 > 1:51:34children in the schools that did not.Do you think this is down to

1:51:34 > 1:51:38being almost too late in primary schools? Do we need to get in

1:51:38 > 1:51:44earlier?Absolutely. The Government has put all of its emphasis on

1:51:44 > 1:51:50school upwards and not on school downwards. The critical point to

1:51:50 > 1:51:53influence children's behaviour and lifestyles is somewhere between the

1:51:53 > 1:51:58age of two and five when they are starting to get mobile and starting

1:51:58 > 1:52:02to take on their preferences in whatever. If you don't act there,

1:52:02 > 1:52:06you will be left with a quarter of the population who are overweight at

1:52:06 > 1:52:11five. When they are overweight will take a lot to bring them down. The

1:52:11 > 1:52:14good thing about the search is it is proven we have been looking in the

1:52:14 > 1:52:23wrong direction. -- the research has proven. We have to take a more

1:52:23 > 1:52:30comprehensive approach. A bunch of factors is involved. You have the

1:52:30 > 1:52:33whole day to worry about, including holidays for the where the

1:52:33 > 1:52:38concentration needs to be focused. We have known for many, many years

1:52:38 > 1:52:42you have to do lots of exercise and eat healthily. Is this about parents

1:52:42 > 1:52:48being lazy, the message not getting through, or is this about working

1:52:48 > 1:52:52parents are struggling to keep all the balls in the air?It is

1:52:52 > 1:52:57definitely not about parents being lazy. If we think about children and

1:52:57 > 1:53:03the environment within which they live, obviously are at school but

1:53:03 > 1:53:07they are at home. There are wider influences in our society on

1:53:07 > 1:53:12children and parents as well. It is difficult for parents for a

1:53:12 > 1:53:17multitude of reasons to fit physical activity into their day. To cook

1:53:17 > 1:53:21from fresh ingredients and all the things we would associate with a

1:53:21 > 1:53:26healthy diet. That can be incredible difficult in our modern society. I

1:53:26 > 1:53:32agree totally that we need to be looking at the early years but we

1:53:32 > 1:53:37also need to be looking at our wider society influences on children and

1:53:37 > 1:53:43families and adults as well.Why is it difficult to cook from fresh?If

1:53:43 > 1:53:51we look at the way families are these days, usually there are often

1:53:51 > 1:53:58two working parents who are short of time. With school-age children, they

1:53:58 > 1:54:04are usually very busy. There is a lot of time. I know this from

1:54:04 > 1:54:10personal experience. There is a lot of time taken...It is tough being a

1:54:10 > 1:54:13working parents, particularly when there are two working parents for

1:54:13 > 1:54:18them it is about setting the bar from an early age with kids making

1:54:18 > 1:54:22choices about snacks. I used to convince my children that stories

1:54:22 > 1:54:26weather biggest treat in the world because I wanted them to see that.

1:54:26 > 1:54:31-- were the biggest treat. To see that, rather than chocolate and

1:54:31 > 1:54:34sweets. Is it not really the responsibility of the parents to

1:54:34 > 1:54:45grab hold of this?The

1:54:45 > 1:54:47grab hold of this?The parents have to be helped by parents at the

1:54:47 > 1:54:49moment are not helped. Speaking of cooking, we have a whole section in

1:54:49 > 1:54:52society that does not know how to cook because domestic science was