0:00:09 > 0:00:11Hello, it's Monday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -
0:00:11 > 0:00:12welcome to the programme.
0:00:12 > 0:00:19Our top story...
0:00:19 > 0:00:22The Prime Minister is to launch a year-long review of how higher
0:00:22 > 0:00:32education is funded, admitting that England has one
0:00:32 > 0:00:34of the most expensive university systems.
0:00:34 > 0:00:35Also on the programme...
0:00:35 > 0:00:37Serial paedophile football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced
0:00:37 > 0:00:39today for abuse on an "industrial scale" committed on young
0:00:39 > 0:00:40boys in his care.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43These men abused by Bennell told us how important it is for them
0:00:44 > 0:00:47to see him in person in court today.
0:00:47 > 0:00:52I will be there and I will like him in the eye.It is important for you
0:00:52 > 0:00:57that he is there?It is important for me personally to get that
0:00:57 > 0:01:03closure and hopefully to hear the judge say... Well, hopefully, life
0:01:03 > 0:01:09in prison.Even up to his last second he should be shown no
0:01:09 > 0:01:12remorse. I want to have that opportunity to look him in the eye
0:01:12 > 0:01:21and show him that I have power now, you does not have that power over
0:01:21 > 0:01:22me.
0:01:22 > 0:01:26Micky Fallon, abused by Bennell from the age of 13, will read us
0:01:26 > 0:01:28part of his victim impact statement.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31Plus, will last week's Florida school shooting mark a change in gun
0:01:31 > 0:01:37control laws in America?
0:01:37 > 0:01:44We know that there are mental health issues and I am not a psychologist,
0:01:44 > 0:01:48but we need to pay attention to the fact that this isn't just a mental
0:01:48 > 0:01:53health issue. He would not have hurt that many students with a knife!
0:01:53 > 0:01:56Three students who survived last weeks gun attack tell us why they're
0:01:56 > 0:01:57telling American politicans "enough is enough".
0:01:57 > 0:01:58And...
0:01:58 > 0:02:00Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri has dominated
0:02:00 > 0:02:05the Bafta film awards, winning five trophies.
0:02:05 > 0:02:10It focuses on a woman looking for justice, played by Francis
0:02:10 > 0:02:15McDormand, who picked up Best Actress.I have a little trouble
0:02:15 > 0:02:19with compliance. LAUGHTER.
0:02:19 > 0:02:24But I want you to know that I stand in full solidarity with my sisters
0:02:24 > 0:02:33tonight in black. Power to the people.
0:02:36 > 0:02:40Hello, welcome to the programme.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44We're live until 11am this morning.
0:02:44 > 0:02:48Later we will talk about an interesting report out today on
0:02:48 > 0:02:51employee is' attitudes to women who work for them who happened to become
0:02:51 > 0:02:55pregnant. According to the survey this morning, the majority of bosses
0:02:55 > 0:02:58think women should have to disclose if they are pregnant at a job
0:02:58 > 0:03:02interview. They don't have to do that. While a third think it is OK
0:03:02 > 0:03:06to ask women about their plans for children, which is against the law.
0:03:06 > 0:03:09If you have been discriminated against because you are pregnant,
0:03:09 > 0:03:17get in touch with us this morning. We will speak to a woman who was
0:03:17 > 0:03:19sacked by her organisation, a women's organisation, when she was
0:03:19 > 0:03:21on maternity leave.
0:03:21 > 0:03:22Our top story today...
0:03:22 > 0:03:25Theresa May will launch a year-long review of how higher
0:03:25 > 0:03:27education is funded, admitting that England has one
0:03:27 > 0:03:29of the most expensive systems of tuition in the world.
0:03:29 > 0:03:31In a speech later, the Prime Minister will say
0:03:31 > 0:03:34she shares the concerns of students and parents about the cost
0:03:34 > 0:03:35of getting a degree.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37Labour has accused the Government of simply kicking the problem
0:03:37 > 0:03:38into the long grass.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42Let's talk to Norman, who is at Westminster. What kind of things
0:03:42 > 0:03:49will be discussed, do you think, over the next year?
0:03:49 > 0:03:55We are told everything is on the table except for one thing, which is
0:03:55 > 0:03:58the tuition fee system, that is going to stay, but the view amongst
0:03:58 > 0:04:02ministers is that the current system is just not working, that the costs
0:04:02 > 0:04:07are simply too steep and it is not good value for money. So the sorts
0:04:07 > 0:04:11of things they want to look at is whether they can encourage
0:04:11 > 0:04:15universities to provide shorter courses, maybe two year courses so
0:04:15 > 0:04:19you do not run up such a long bill -- such a big bill. Also encouraging
0:04:19 > 0:04:24more students to do computer courses, to live at home and go to
0:04:24 > 0:04:26their local university, but of course the big ticket item is the
0:04:26 > 0:04:30overall level of fees, with pretty much every university charging the
0:04:30 > 0:04:36maximum of just over £9,000 for pretty much every course. Don't hold
0:04:36 > 0:04:41your breath for the Government to put those fees, there is not likely
0:04:41 > 0:04:44to be legislation forcing the fees down, in part I think because if the
0:04:44 > 0:04:48Government were to do that there will be howls of outrage claiming it
0:04:48 > 0:04:55was a middle-class tax subsidy. What they seem to be talking about is
0:04:55 > 0:04:57trying to arm prospective students with more information about courses
0:04:57 > 0:05:02and the job prospects they have, the sort of salaries they have, in the
0:05:02 > 0:05:05hope that youngsters will say, well, I will not do that cause because it
0:05:05 > 0:05:11is probably not going to lead to a very well-paid job, so fewer would
0:05:11 > 0:05:13do the course, therefore universities might think, we will
0:05:13 > 0:05:17have to make those causes more attractive and cut the level of
0:05:17 > 0:05:22fees, and they hope that way to create more of a market system in
0:05:22 > 0:05:25universities and thereby reduce some of the fees for the less worthwhile
0:05:25 > 0:05:29causes. Thanks, Norman, for the moment. If
0:05:29 > 0:05:33you are a student, we would like to hear from you. What would you like
0:05:33 > 0:05:38to hear from Theresa May today? If you are perhaps looking at going to
0:05:38 > 0:05:41university in the future, or somebody who would rather pursue the
0:05:41 > 0:05:47technical qualification side, do get in touch. You can messages on
0:05:47 > 0:05:50Twitter, there is WhatsApp, and there is our Facebook page which is
0:05:50 > 0:05:54getting pretty big now, thanks to you! Let's get the rest of the
0:05:54 > 0:05:59morning 's news.
0:05:59 > 0:06:00Here's Annita.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03An internal Oxfam report on the sexual misconduct of some
0:06:03 > 0:06:06of its staff in Haiti in 2011 has revealed that three of the men
0:06:06 > 0:06:08involved physically threatened witnesses during the investigation.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10The charity has published the document for the first time,
0:06:10 > 0:06:13saying it wants to be as transparent as possible.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15Here's our diplomatic correspondent, James Landale.
0:06:15 > 0:06:17In the wake of the earthquake in Haiti in 2010, seven of the Oxfam
0:06:17 > 0:06:21staff sent there to help left because as a result
0:06:21 > 0:06:26of their unacceptable behaviour.
0:06:26 > 0:06:29An internal report published today shows one was dismissed and three
0:06:29 > 0:06:33resigned for using prostitutes on Oxfam premises.
0:06:33 > 0:06:36Two more were dismissed for bullying and intimidation, one of whom also
0:06:36 > 0:06:37downloaded pornography.
0:06:37 > 0:06:47And another man was sacked for failing to protect staff.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50The report says three of the suspects physically
0:06:50 > 0:06:53threatened witnesses during the investigation.
0:06:53 > 0:06:54The 11-page document makes various recommendations, including finding
0:06:54 > 0:06:56better mechanisms for informing other aid agencies about
0:06:56 > 0:06:58so-called problem staff.
0:06:58 > 0:07:04This is something Oxfam appears to have ignored,
0:07:04 > 0:07:07as Roland Van Hauwermeiren, the charity's director in Haiti,
0:07:07 > 0:07:09went on to work for another aid organisation in Bangladesh,
0:07:09 > 0:07:14even though the charity says he resigned for using prostitutes.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17Parts of the reports are blacked out to hide people's identities,
0:07:17 > 0:07:22but Oxfam says it has given an unredacted copy to Haitian
0:07:22 > 0:07:23ministers, whom senior managers from the charity
0:07:23 > 0:07:24will meet later today.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27James Landale, BBC News.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29Former football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced today
0:07:29 > 0:07:33for historical sexual assaults committed on young boys in his care.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36The 64-year-old, who worked with Manchester City
0:07:36 > 0:07:39and Crewe Alexandra's youth teams, was convicted of 50 child sex
0:07:39 > 0:07:41offences at Liverpool Crown Court.
0:07:41 > 0:07:45The former scout is thought to have abused more than 100 boys over
0:07:45 > 0:07:51a period spanning three decades.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54The Equality and Human Rights Commission says a survey of 1100
0:07:54 > 0:07:56employers it commissioned has revealed "antiquated" attitudes
0:07:56 > 0:08:00to recruiting women.
0:08:00 > 0:08:03The poll found that more than half believed a woman should have
0:08:03 > 0:08:06to say if she was pregnant during the recruitment process,
0:08:06 > 0:08:09and 44% thought women should work for a firm for at least a year
0:08:09 > 0:08:13before having children.
0:08:13 > 0:08:17The mother of a seriously ill six-year-old boy has described a
0:08:17 > 0:08:22Government decision to deny him cannabis treatment as astonishing.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25Hannah Deacon wants ministers to approve a medical cannabis license
0:08:25 > 0:08:30to help her son, Alfie, who rare form of epilepsy improved after
0:08:30 > 0:08:34taking the drug. She has pleaded for help to overturn the decision,
0:08:34 > 0:08:38saying cannabis oil is safer for her son than his present treatment.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40Former shareholders in the collapsed construction giant Carillion
0:08:40 > 0:08:42are calling for its management to be investigated.
0:08:42 > 0:08:44Some have told MPs that the company's
0:08:44 > 0:08:47executives must have known - or should have known -
0:08:47 > 0:08:49about its cash flow problems well before it went
0:08:49 > 0:08:52into liquidation last month.
0:08:52 > 0:08:58At the same time, say MPs, investors were "fleeing for the hills".
0:08:58 > 0:09:01MPs are to scrutinise the pension schemes at the retail
0:09:01 > 0:09:03empire of Topshop boss Sir Philip Green.
0:09:03 > 0:09:08Frank Field, chairman of the Work and Pensions Committee,
0:09:08 > 0:09:11said the move follows claims Sir Philip was in talks to sell
0:09:11 > 0:09:12all or part of his business.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14Newspaper reports say the billionaire has held talks
0:09:14 > 0:09:20with a Chinese textiles giant.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22A group of American teenagers who survived a school shooting
0:09:22 > 0:09:25in Florida have announced a national march on Washington to demand
0:09:25 > 0:09:26political action on gun control.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28They say they're determined that the mass shooting,
0:09:28 > 0:09:30in which 17 people died, will be a turning point
0:09:30 > 0:09:35in the debate about guns.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38The Bank of England says more than £2 billion worth of old £10
0:09:38 > 0:09:42notes need to be spent or exchanged in the next 10 days.
0:09:42 > 0:09:44The notes, featuring Charles Darwin, cease to be legal
0:09:44 > 0:09:48tender on 1st March.
0:09:48 > 0:09:52Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, a film about a mother
0:09:52 > 0:09:55seeking justice for her daughter's murder, was the big winner
0:09:55 > 0:10:03at the Bafta awards last night.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05It won five prizes, including best film and best actress
0:10:06 > 0:10:07for Frances McDormand.
0:10:07 > 0:10:09The theme of justice and equality for women dominated the event,
0:10:09 > 0:10:12with most guests wearing black to show solidarity with campaigns
0:10:12 > 0:10:15against abuse and harassment.
0:10:15 > 0:10:22That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.
0:10:23 > 0:10:26This message from Andy about university tuition fees in the
0:10:26 > 0:10:30future, he suggests courses for engineers, scientists, doctors and
0:10:30 > 0:10:33nurses should be subsidised but all others should pay the full costs for
0:10:33 > 0:10:34their course.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -
0:10:37 > 0:10:38use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE.
0:10:38 > 0:10:40If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.
0:10:40 > 0:10:44Let's get some sport...
0:10:44 > 0:10:49Sonali is with us, and there has been drama for Team GB in curling at
0:10:49 > 0:10:52the Winter Olympics? Yes, there has, lots of
0:10:52 > 0:10:56qualification events going on today so a busy morning so far for the
0:10:56 > 0:11:01Brits and it went to the wire with a curling but Great Britain's men made
0:11:01 > 0:11:05it four wins from seven. It was tight throughout, nail-biting stuff,
0:11:05 > 0:11:10and eventually they came through 7-6 against Denmark which puts them in a
0:11:10 > 0:11:15strong position to earn a place in the last four, that crucial last
0:11:15 > 0:11:19four. Just after 11am, Great Britain's women take on Switzerland
0:11:19 > 0:11:23after the hog line controversy yesterday.
0:11:23 > 0:11:28Less than two years after being told she may never skate again, ice
0:11:28 > 0:11:30dancer Penny Combs and her partner Nick Butler and have qualified for
0:11:30 > 0:11:35the final. Earlier this morning they finished in tenth place ahead of
0:11:35 > 0:11:38tomorrow's free dance, where the medals are decided after two
0:11:38 > 0:11:44routines. This routine was partly choreographed by Christopher Dean
0:11:44 > 0:11:49who won Olympic gold alongside Jane Torvill in 1984.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52And there were mixed fortunes out on the snowboard Team GB?
0:11:52 > 0:11:57This was where the dramatic action happened, those spectacles, and a
0:11:57 > 0:12:00great morning for row in Cheshire in the freestyle skiing half pipe
0:12:00 > 0:12:05event. Her performance was good enough to qualify for the finals but
0:12:05 > 0:12:09unfortunately the other Brit in the competition, Molly Summerhays,
0:12:09 > 0:12:13missed out. Huge disappointment for Amy Fuller in the snowboarding big
0:12:13 > 0:12:18air event. This is making its debut at this year's games. She fell on
0:12:18 > 0:12:23both of her attempts, including a huge crash in her second jump, so
0:12:23 > 0:12:28her Olympics is over. It looks like her face took the brunt of the
0:12:28 > 0:12:33iceberg. This is her Tweet this morning. Took wanted the grill were
0:12:33 > 0:12:38her words. But she say she is proud and will keep on smiling.
0:12:38 > 0:12:48Just one more story... Away from the winters, Tottenham's collective ego
0:12:48 > 0:12:52may be feeling bruised this morning, the romance of the FA Cup evident
0:12:52 > 0:12:57for all to see over the weekend as the club that is bottom of League 1,
0:12:57 > 0:13:01Rochdale, held high-flying spurs to a 2-2 drawer. They have got a replay
0:13:01 > 0:13:05at Wembley thanks to this injury time equaliser from Steve Davis.
0:13:05 > 0:13:09Spurs took the lead with Kane penalty but the joy belonged to
0:13:09 > 0:13:13Rochdale in the end on their big day out at Wembley.
0:13:13 > 0:13:20We knew, having gone 1-0 up in the first half, we knew what would come
0:13:20 > 0:13:27in the second half. Although the players got a little bit did, they
0:13:27 > 0:13:29responded superbly, their heads could have gone down after the
0:13:29 > 0:13:32penalty and I feel as though we got a deserved equaliser.
0:13:32 > 0:13:36That is all the sport for now. Thank you, Sonali. More throughout the
0:13:36 > 0:13:38morning.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40Paedophile football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced
0:13:40 > 0:13:45today for historical sexual assaults committed on young boys in his care.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49The 64-year-old was convicted of 50 child sexual offences,
0:13:49 > 0:13:53but the court heard those charges reflected the "industrial scale"
0:13:53 > 0:13:56with which he targeted his victims.
0:13:56 > 0:13:59The former Crewe Alexandra coach and Manchester City scout is thought
0:13:59 > 0:14:02to have abused more than 100 boys over a period spanning
0:14:02 > 0:14:06three decades.
0:14:06 > 0:14:10The scale of his abuse was made clear after our interview with these
0:14:10 > 0:14:12four players in November 2016, which prompted dozens more
0:14:12 > 0:14:16victims to come forward.
0:14:16 > 0:14:19After Bennell's conviction last week, we caught up
0:14:19 > 0:14:23with three of those players - Andy Woodward, Steve Walters
0:14:23 > 0:14:25and Chris Unsworth - and a fourth, Gary Cliffe,
0:14:25 > 0:14:31who told us how important it would be to see him in court today.
0:14:31 > 0:14:37I have waited two and half years, basically, to sit here with you to
0:14:37 > 0:14:43speak about this. I came forward in September 2015, and I suppose you
0:14:43 > 0:14:48could say I have waited over 30 years, really. I myself got seven
0:14:48 > 0:14:55counts guilty, six counts on Tuesday, I had to wait a day and
0:14:55 > 0:15:00then yesterday I got my final count of guilty to make seven, but what I
0:15:00 > 0:15:04can say to you, Victoria, is if people think this is horrific, this
0:15:04 > 0:15:10is not even scratching the surface. You know and I know the real number
0:15:10 > 0:15:20is tenfold in terms of offences and lads affected by this.When you were
0:15:20 > 0:15:27hearing the verdict come in for each offence, guilty, guilty, guilty,
0:15:27 > 0:15:32that must have been just so emotional for all of you?
0:15:32 > 0:15:33that must have been just so emotional for all of you?Yes, it
0:15:33 > 0:15:37was a roller-coaster, that day, they did not all come in, so, you know,
0:15:37 > 0:15:42the first ones came in, I had five charges read out, all of them
0:15:42 > 0:15:44guilty, the boy next to me, he did not.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53Just a roller-coaster. None of us could celebrate until we all heard
0:15:53 > 0:15:58the guilty verdict.It felt as though... It felt as though my
0:15:58 > 0:16:04charges were guilty, perhaps somebody else waiting on a verdict,
0:16:04 > 0:16:08and we will all in this all together.You will be in the same
0:16:08 > 0:16:11court room as him on Monday, as sentencing happens, when he is in
0:16:11 > 0:16:16the room to hear what punishment he will get for what he did to you, how
0:16:16 > 0:16:21do you feel like about seeing him face-to-face?I know I have said
0:16:21 > 0:16:25that I want to have my day with him, I want to look him in the eye, see
0:16:25 > 0:16:29him face-to-face, and we did not get that chance. When the trial was
0:16:29 > 0:16:35going on. Monday, I will be there, I will look him in the eye.It is
0:16:35 > 0:16:41important for you that he is...Yes, for me, it is important, personally,
0:16:41 > 0:16:50to get that closure, and hopefully to hear the judge say, life.
0:16:50 > 0:16:56Hopefully, life in prison.That will be the final chapter of our closure.
0:16:56 > 0:17:04Give us the opportunity to move on. And this man, up to his last
0:17:04 > 0:17:10seconds, shown no remorse, I want the opportunity to look him in the
0:17:10 > 0:17:15eye and show him, I am over you now, he does not have power over me.I'm
0:17:15 > 0:17:21so pleased that I did do this, because now, with initially Steve
0:17:21 > 0:17:24and Chris being on the couch, and Gary in the background, doing stuff,
0:17:24 > 0:17:31you know, this has highlighted this, and hopefully, it will save so many
0:17:31 > 0:17:36lives. Because we cannot lose anyone else. What is more important is that
0:17:36 > 0:17:41football in general now, they are standing up and they are accountable
0:17:41 > 0:17:45for what happened in the past but more a importantly, that we can move
0:17:45 > 0:17:51things forward now.This guy, he knew what he was doing, and he
0:17:51 > 0:17:57rapped everyone around his little finger. Basically.Steve recently
0:17:57 > 0:18:01lost his mother, my father passed away in August. At least we have
0:18:01 > 0:18:06been able to give our parents that release. I know that my dad is up
0:18:06 > 0:18:11there watching, Steve's mother is, as well, able to give them that
0:18:11 > 0:18:16release, that they were not on their own... They were all manipulated,
0:18:16 > 0:18:27like every parent has been.My mother was diagnosed with lung
0:18:27 > 0:18:40cancer, in February, and passed away in June. I hope that she is up
0:18:40 > 0:18:53there, watching down. She was my rock. It has been hard.My dad was
0:18:53 > 0:18:57my best friend, he watched me all the way through, never missed a
0:18:57 > 0:19:03game, my mother and father, they went all over the country. I know my
0:19:03 > 0:19:06mother is watching now, she is really proud of me, finding it
0:19:06 > 0:19:11really hard, but I am so proud of them and the way of the dignity,
0:19:11 > 0:19:18with which they have dealt with all of this, it is hard for parents.
0:19:18 > 0:19:22There will be parents out there suffering from this. I will say
0:19:22 > 0:19:26something that no parent in this country who has been affected by
0:19:26 > 0:19:36Barry Bennell should have any guilt or any shame, because he manipulated
0:19:36 > 0:19:42everybody.And he is responsible.He manipulated everybody.That was on
0:19:42 > 0:19:47Friday.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49We can speak now toMicky Fallon, one of Bennell's victims,
0:19:49 > 0:19:52who will be reading his victim impact statement in court today.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55He has waived his right to anonymity to talk to us. Thank you for coming
0:19:55 > 0:20:00on the programme.Not a problem, good morning.Tell us what sort of
0:20:00 > 0:20:11punishment you are hoping for today.
0:20:12 > 0:20:15Today is our day today, hopefully he will be put away and never see the
0:20:15 > 0:20:19light of day again. That would probably be the perfect day, the
0:20:19 > 0:20:23perfect ending for us, this man does not deserve to walk in normal
0:20:23 > 0:20:30society.You are going to read your victim impact statement out in court
0:20:30 > 0:20:35this morning, what are some of the things that you will want to tell
0:20:35 > 0:20:42the court room, and to tell Barry Bennell?So, the impact on me
0:20:42 > 0:20:50personally, over 33 years has been quite devastating. From 13, when
0:20:50 > 0:20:55this happened to me, my dreams of being a football player pretty much
0:20:55 > 0:21:00diminished. I did stay at Crewe Alexandra until the age of 18 but my
0:21:00 > 0:21:05heart was never in it, I had chances to go to other football clubs but I
0:21:05 > 0:21:08wanted to move home, I moved home and I never moved away from Plymouth
0:21:08 > 0:21:15after that. I feel like the impact on my football career was pretty
0:21:15 > 0:21:21damning. But in terms of as an adult, subconsciously, what you
0:21:21 > 0:21:28carry with you, that dirty secret, quite devastating. There were very
0:21:28 > 0:21:33similar stories, my personal story, in my early 20s, I could not cope
0:21:33 > 0:21:37with it, I turned to alcohol, it took me two years to get myself
0:21:37 > 0:21:44through counselling, in terms of being alcohol dependent, and that
0:21:44 > 0:21:49culminated in me trying to take my own life. I don't think anyone can
0:21:49 > 0:21:53underestimate the impact that carrying this kind of secret has on
0:21:53 > 0:21:57you, not just as a child but has on you when you move forward in your
0:21:57 > 0:22:03adult life, it can be pretty devastating.You only told your
0:22:03 > 0:22:07partner about the abuse you had endured after watching the interview
0:22:07 > 0:22:11on this programme in November, 2016, when those former players spoke out
0:22:11 > 0:22:15about what Barry Bennell had done to them. When you watched those men,
0:22:15 > 0:22:24what effect did that have on you?I cannot explain the feelings,
0:22:24 > 0:22:32watching, Steve, who was my friend, before we even went to Crewe we grew
0:22:32 > 0:22:38up together, we were mates, seeing him sat on the Sofer, it hit me like
0:22:38 > 0:22:46a train. -- sat on the sofa. It was my moment to realise I had to
0:22:46 > 0:22:50confront this, to be brave enough to come out with my secret, and deal
0:22:50 > 0:22:58with it, or, do I deny, do I deny myself, and deny people like Steve,
0:22:58 > 0:23:05brave enough to sit there, to acknowledge there is other is out
0:23:05 > 0:23:08there. It hit me hard, personally I thought it was the right thing to
0:23:08 > 0:23:14do, to come forward, and to show that actually, the scale of this, it
0:23:14 > 0:23:19is fairly phenomenal.The first time you were abused by Barry Bennell was
0:23:19 > 0:23:24over Christmas, you were staying at his home, you moved up from Plymouth
0:23:24 > 0:23:25to Crewe
0:23:25 > 0:23:27his home, you moved up from Plymouth to Crewe, Steve Walters moved as
0:23:27 > 0:23:31well, close friend of yours, staying there, over Christmas, with several
0:23:31 > 0:23:37of the boys, in the early 1980s. We can show an image of you on
0:23:37 > 0:23:41Christmas Day, with a couple of the other boys, that the audience will
0:23:41 > 0:23:46be familiar with, Andy Woodward and Steve waltzer. Barry Bennell's
0:23:46 > 0:23:50Alsatian dog had bitten you on the cheek and Barry Bennell would not
0:23:50 > 0:23:53take you to hospital despite the fact you were bleeding heavily, you
0:23:53 > 0:24:01were really vulnerable that day, that is when the abuse began.Yes,
0:24:01 > 0:24:04Christmas eve, the dog bit me, Christmas Eve morning. I clearly
0:24:04 > 0:24:09needed hospital treatment, I was denied that opportunity by Barry
0:24:09 > 0:24:14Bennell, he would not take me to hospital, took me to a pharmacist,
0:24:14 > 0:24:17pharmacist said, he needs medical attention, he would not do that. I
0:24:17 > 0:24:24guess that is all part of his grooming process. I was vulnerable,
0:24:24 > 0:24:2913 years old, first Christmas away from my parents, and I believe that
0:24:29 > 0:24:32the use that opportunity as an opportunity to take my vulnerability
0:24:32 > 0:24:37and... As you will see from what I have described in evidence in court,
0:24:37 > 0:24:43that moved onto driving us around Manchester, scaremongering about the
0:24:43 > 0:24:46places we were driving through, taking us back to watch a horror
0:24:46 > 0:24:58movie, at the age of 12, with a pet puma walking around. Come and have a
0:24:58 > 0:25:02cuddle, you must be feeling upset, vulnerable, that was the grooming,
0:25:02 > 0:25:06that was how it started.On occasion, you would wake up in his
0:25:06 > 0:25:10house, because he was abusing you. That was terrifying. It is
0:25:10 > 0:25:19terrifying. I was a young boy. You would see from the pictures, people
0:25:19 > 0:25:23will clearly see, I may well have been 13 but probably, body wise,
0:25:23 > 0:25:29mentality wise, I was a late developer, I was a lot younger. I
0:25:29 > 0:25:32was a really young boy and for that to happen in the middle of the
0:25:32 > 0:25:38night, I was petrified. Every time I had to stay there, I would run to
0:25:38 > 0:25:43the top bunk, and that top bunk, he still got to me but that was safety
0:25:43 > 0:25:50for me. That was safety.We have had statements from Crewe and from then
0:25:50 > 0:25:59manager Dario Gradi, now director of football, suspended by the FA, they
0:25:59 > 0:26:03say they did not know what Barry Bennell was doing, they say it was
0:26:03 > 0:26:101994 before he realised what had been going on. What a risk he was.
0:26:10 > 0:26:15Cooperating with enquiries, running their own enquiry. Is it feasible
0:26:15 > 0:26:20that others at the time, other adults did not know what a risk
0:26:20 > 0:26:24Barry Bennell was?My own personal opinion on this matter is very
0:26:24 > 0:26:31clear, I think it is clear to everyone, the scale that this abuse
0:26:31 > 0:26:37happened throughout these years. Access to children, I personally
0:26:37 > 0:26:44find it hard to believe that no other adults understood, even if it
0:26:44 > 0:26:49was just the potential risk that they were putting us under. I find
0:26:49 > 0:26:54that hard to believe over the years, that nobody even had any such
0:26:54 > 0:26:59suspicions.We are showing a picture of you with Dario Gradi and Barry
0:26:59 > 0:27:04Bennell. And also other teams used to call you, what, they would call
0:27:04 > 0:27:09you...Yes, it was well known, we are talking 30 odd years ago, people
0:27:09 > 0:27:15would call us, here come the paedophile boys... Crewe Alexandra
0:27:15 > 0:27:20had a reputation back then for that kind of thing, we would get called
0:27:20 > 0:27:28that at the age of 12, 13, 14, 15, it was not uncommon.Why did you
0:27:28 > 0:27:37want to speak out?I sprained the connection, for me speaking out now,
0:27:37 > 0:27:42this is not so much about me, I am 46 years old, it happened to me a
0:27:42 > 0:27:49long time ago, this now is all about the future. And making sure that
0:27:49 > 0:27:52this cannot happen again, not just in football but sport in general,
0:27:52 > 0:27:55this type of thing cannot happen, children need to be able to play
0:27:55 > 0:28:01sport and be safe from doing so, and the work with the offside trust,
0:28:01 > 0:28:05that is one of the reasons why I have waved my right to anonymity, I
0:28:05 > 0:28:08want to speak out and show the devastating effect that child abuse
0:28:08 > 0:28:13can have a and we need to work with the authorities within football,
0:28:13 > 0:28:18within sport, and make sure that safeguarding children at all levels,
0:28:18 > 0:28:23grassroots rugby way through to Premier League, is as tight as it
0:28:23 > 0:28:27can be. Everyone talks about historical child abuse, but this
0:28:27 > 0:28:31still goes on today. Different scale but we know it is still going on
0:28:31 > 0:28:40today.What are your thoughts towards Barry Bennell?I have no
0:28:40 > 0:28:44feelings for that man whatsoever, today is my day, and it is the rest
0:28:44 > 0:28:49of the lads's day, I can walk into court with my head held high, but
0:28:49 > 0:28:53the first time, throughout this trial, I can walk through without my
0:28:53 > 0:28:57stomach going... All of that guilt and feeling of being ashamed and
0:28:57 > 0:29:02carrying that secret, today, for me, will be transferred to that man. The
0:29:02 > 0:29:06minute he gets his sentence and is put away, that man is nothing to me,
0:29:06 > 0:29:11nothing to any of the others, we can put into one side and we can forget
0:29:11 > 0:29:16about him. We can never forget about the abuse, but we can forget about
0:29:16 > 0:29:22him, he will be nothing to us.Thank you so much for speaking with us, we
0:29:22 > 0:29:28really appreciate it. Mickey will be in court today to hear what
0:29:28 > 0:29:35punishment Barry Bennell will receive.
0:29:35 > 0:29:39Our reporter Jim Reed has been following this story.
0:29:39 > 0:29:43Sentencing around midday, very important, as has been eloquently
0:29:43 > 0:29:48explained by Mickey Fallon, not least the fact this, through this
0:29:48 > 0:29:51five-week trial, Barry Bennell was never actually in court in person,
0:29:51 > 0:29:56having evidence by video link from Woodhill prison, near Malton Keynes,
0:29:56 > 0:30:00because of ill-health, he has cancer, fed through a chew, a
0:30:00 > 0:30:04decision was made that he does not have too attend. His lawyers made a
0:30:04 > 0:30:07similar argument about sentencing, the judge has refused that, so we
0:30:07 > 0:30:12are expecting him to be in court for the first time today. Liverpool
0:30:12 > 0:30:17Crown Court, fairly small courtroom, you can imagine a lot of the
0:30:17 > 0:30:21complainants, the victims in the case will be there, first time they
0:30:21 > 0:30:25will have seen in this trial Barry Bennell face-to-face, said at the
0:30:25 > 0:30:28start, then they will have the opportunity to give the victim
0:30:28 > 0:30:29impact statements.
0:30:34 > 0:30:38They all get to go in the witness box and explain the impact on their
0:30:38 > 0:30:42lives with Mr Benn out face-to-face in front of them so it will be
0:30:42 > 0:30:46important for many reasons, not just that reason alone. And he will
0:30:46 > 0:30:51receive a prison term, it is not the first time he will be getting a jail
0:30:51 > 0:30:55sentence for abusing young boys? Know, and the joy we did hear this
0:30:55 > 0:30:58through the trial, this is the fourth prison term he will be
0:30:58 > 0:31:03sentenced to, the first back in 1994 in the United States, again in 98 in
0:31:03 > 0:31:08this country, a gain in 2015 in this country, then a fourth term in 2018.
0:31:08 > 0:31:15In this case he is, the jury found him guilty of 43 historic counts of
0:31:15 > 0:31:18abuse, he admitted seven before the start of the trial so he will be
0:31:18 > 0:31:23sentenced to 50 count against 12 boys, the most serious of those is a
0:31:23 > 0:31:27count called buggery which we don't use these days, effectively rape,
0:31:27 > 0:31:34but because these are historical charges they use the old term. The
0:31:34 > 0:31:37maximum term is life imprisonment, we do not know what the judge for
0:31:37 > 0:31:41sentencing to but that is the kind of maximum sentence he could in
0:31:41 > 0:31:45theory face. It also does not mean that this trial is over. We
0:31:45 > 0:31:53understand that police have received more calls from people who said they
0:31:53 > 0:31:56were abused by Barry Bennell who were not involved in this latest
0:31:56 > 0:31:59case of the investigation is likely to go on, we don't know if there
0:31:59 > 0:32:02will be fresh charges and investigation, that is for the
0:32:02 > 0:32:06future. Today is about the victims and the sentencing of this man
0:32:06 > 0:32:09around 12pm today. And of course you will hear the
0:32:09 > 0:32:10outcome here on BBC News.
0:32:10 > 0:32:14Still to come...
0:32:14 > 0:32:19Will last week's shooting in Florida change gun laws? We will speak to
0:32:19 > 0:32:22three student survivors of the attack who are telling American
0:32:22 > 0:32:28politicians that enough is enough. And Hannah Jones made headlines when
0:32:28 > 0:32:32she was 13 over her decision to refuse a life-saving heart
0:32:32 > 0:32:38transplant. She changed her mind a year later. She is now 22 and will
0:32:38 > 0:32:42join us to tell us about her life now.
0:32:42 > 0:32:46Time for the latest news - here's Annita McVeigh.
0:32:46 > 0:32:48The BBC News headlines this morning...
0:32:48 > 0:32:50Theresa May will today launch a year-long review of how higher
0:32:50 > 0:32:52education is funded, admitting that England has one
0:32:52 > 0:33:02of the most expensive systems of tuition in the world.
0:33:07 > 0:33:09In a speech in Derbyshire, the Prime Minister will say
0:33:09 > 0:33:12she shares the concerns of students and parents about the cost
0:33:12 > 0:33:13of getting a degree.
0:33:13 > 0:33:15Labour has accused the Government of simply kicking the problem
0:33:15 > 0:33:16into the long grass.
0:33:16 > 0:33:18Oxfam has revealed that charity workers physically threatened
0:33:18 > 0:33:20witnesses during an investigation into sexual misconduct
0:33:20 > 0:33:21in Haiti in 2011.
0:33:21 > 0:33:23The report includes accusations of bullying, intimidation of staff
0:33:23 > 0:33:27and use of prostitutes, as well as suggesting that Oxfam
0:33:27 > 0:33:29bosses ignored a recommendation that better ways should be found
0:33:29 > 0:33:34to inform other charities about problem staff.
0:33:34 > 0:33:36The former football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced
0:33:36 > 0:33:40today for historical sexual assaults committed on young boys in his care.
0:33:40 > 0:33:42The 64-year-old, who worked with Manchester City
0:33:42 > 0:33:48and Crewe Alexandra's youth teams, was convicted of 50 child sex
0:33:48 > 0:33:49offences at Liverpool Crown Court.
0:33:49 > 0:33:52It's thought the former scout may have abused more than one hundred
0:33:52 > 0:33:58boys over a period spanning three decades.
0:33:58 > 0:34:02The equality and human rights commission says a survey of 1100
0:34:02 > 0:34:05employee of its commission has revealed antiquated attitudes to
0:34:05 > 0:34:08recruiting women. The poll found more than half believe the woman
0:34:08 > 0:34:13should have to save she was pregnant during the recruitment process, and
0:34:13 > 0:34:1644% thought women should work for a firm for at least a year before
0:34:16 > 0:34:18having children.
0:34:18 > 0:34:20Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, a film about a mother
0:34:20 > 0:34:23seeking justice for her daughter's murder, was the big winner
0:34:23 > 0:34:27at the Bafta awards last night.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30It won five prizes, including best film and best actress
0:34:30 > 0:34:31for Frances McDormand.
0:34:31 > 0:34:38The theme of justice and equality for women dominated the event,
0:34:38 > 0:34:41with most guests wearing black to show solidarity with campaigns
0:34:41 > 0:34:42against abuse and harassment.
0:34:42 > 0:34:46That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:34:46 > 0:34:51Thank you for your messages regarding those have spoken out
0:34:51 > 0:34:54about the abuse they endured at the hands of the former football coach
0:34:54 > 0:34:59Barry Bennell. This text just says, bless you, guys, I was abused as a
0:34:59 > 0:35:03kid but never told anyone. John on Facebook says, well done to
0:35:03 > 0:35:07these men of your programme, I am 66 and was abused over several years in
0:35:07 > 0:35:10my teens by a man who is now dead. I had the courage to approach
0:35:10 > 0:35:16authorities a couple of years ago but I was ignored. I am now going to
0:35:16 > 0:35:18go back and get the help I need. Thanks for keeping this high
0:35:18 > 0:35:23profile. The says, Bennell has never shown remorse for what he has done.
0:35:23 > 0:35:27I hope the sentencing brings closure for the many people he heard. Now we
0:35:27 > 0:35:29have to ask how he got away with it for so long.
0:35:29 > 0:35:35This is an e-mail from Stu, I am a workmate of Gary Cliffe, Gary was
0:35:35 > 0:35:39one of the people we spoke to on Friday. I have known him for over
0:35:39 > 0:35:43ten years. Just over a year ago I met up with him for a copy. Normally
0:35:43 > 0:35:47we would chat about sport or put the world to rights, and Staffordshire
0:35:47 > 0:35:51Police, where we both worked. However, Gary calmly disclosed his
0:35:51 > 0:35:54involvement as an injured party to the Barry Bennell case which at the
0:35:54 > 0:35:57time was headline news. This was shocking and at the same time
0:35:57 > 0:36:09explained a few things about Gary and his lack of affection for his
0:36:09 > 0:36:10footballing days with Manchester City. The most thought-provoking
0:36:10 > 0:36:13issue that has troubled me, Gary is no different to just over half of us
0:36:13 > 0:36:16detectives in Stoke-on-Trent t:i.d. . White, 40 odd years old, working
0:36:16 > 0:36:18class, a blow, not meant to be victims of sexual offences. The only
0:36:18 > 0:36:22difference between Gary and the rest of us were his childhood talent at
0:36:22 > 0:36:27football. It is testament to Gary that over the years he somehow
0:36:27 > 0:36:30managed to investigate the heavy workload of serious crimes allocated
0:36:30 > 0:36:32to him. Thank you very much for those. If
0:36:32 > 0:36:43you get in touch, you are welcome.
0:36:43 > 0:36:46Here's some sport now with Sonali.
0:36:46 > 0:36:50It has been a busy morning for the Brits in Pyeongchang. The curling
0:36:50 > 0:36:55went to the wire but Great Britain's men made it four wins from seven. It
0:36:55 > 0:36:59was tight and they eventually came through 7-6 against Denmark which
0:36:59 > 0:37:03puts them in a strong position to earn a pace in the last four. Just
0:37:03 > 0:37:07after 11am, Great Britain's women take on Switzerland.
0:37:07 > 0:37:10Less than two years after being told she may never skate again, ice
0:37:10 > 0:37:14dancer Penny Combs and her partner Nick Putland have qualified for the
0:37:14 > 0:37:24short dance
0:37:39 > 0:37:41final. They finished in tenth place ahead
0:37:41 > 0:37:43of tomorrow's free dance where the medals are decided. A good morning
0:37:43 > 0:37:46for Rome in Cheshire in the freestyle half pipe skiing event, a
0:37:46 > 0:37:48good enough performance to qualify for the finals but unfortunately the
0:37:48 > 0:37:50other Brit in the competition, Molly Summerhays, missed out. Huge
0:37:50 > 0:37:52disappointment as well for Amy Fuller in the snowboarding big aero
0:37:52 > 0:37:55bed, making its debut at this yea r's games. She fell on both of her
0:37:55 > 0:37:58Olympics is over, I'm afraid, including a big crash in her second
0:37:58 > 0:38:01jump, so her Olympics is
0:38:03 > 0:38:06Will last week's Florida school shooting mark a change in gun
0:38:06 > 0:38:07control laws in America?
0:38:07 > 0:38:10The attack, which left 17 students and staff members dead,
0:38:10 > 0:38:12was the deadliest US school shooting since the Sandyhook
0:38:12 > 0:38:13massacre in 2012.
0:38:13 > 0:38:15Now students at the school in Parkland are standing up
0:38:15 > 0:38:17to politicians and saying, "Enough is enough".
0:38:17 > 0:38:19They have united under the hashtag #neveragain and are demanding
0:38:19 > 0:38:21for immediate action to be taken on gun-control
0:38:21 > 0:38:27legislation in the US.
0:38:27 > 0:38:29Over the weekend one student, Emma Gonzalez, delivered
0:38:29 > 0:38:30this emotional speech.
0:38:30 > 0:38:35there will be more throughout the are mental health issues and I am
0:38:35 > 0:38:38not a psychologist, but we need to pay attention to the we know they
0:38:38 > 0:38:40are claiming there are mental health issues and I am not a psychologist,
0:38:40 > 0:38:44but we need to pay attention to that this is not just a mental health
0:38:44 > 0:38:46issue! He would not have hurt that many
0:38:46 > 0:38:57students with a knife! APPLAUSE. Blaming the victims was
0:38:57 > 0:39:02something that was the shooter's fault how about we stop blaming the
0:39:02 > 0:39:09victims was something that was the shooter's faultlet him buy the guns
0:39:09 > 0:39:14in the first place.Those at the gun shows, the people who encouraged him
0:39:14 > 0:39:18to buy accessories for his guns to make them fully automatic, the
0:39:18 > 0:39:22people who didn't take them away from him when they knew that he
0:39:22 > 0:39:27expressed homicidal tendencies, and I am not talking about the FBI! I am
0:39:27 > 0:39:31talking about the people that he lived with! I am talking about the
0:39:31 > 0:39:41neighbours who saw him outside holding guns! If -- how about we
0:39:41 > 0:39:43stop blaming the victims? The fault of the people who let him buy the
0:39:43 > 0:39:46guns in the first place. Those at the gun shows, the people who
0:39:46 > 0:39:48encouraged him to buy accessories for his guns to make them fully
0:39:48 > 0:39:51automatic, the people who didn't take them away from him when they
0:39:51 > 0:39:53knew that he expressed homicidal tendencies, and I am not talking
0:39:53 > 0:39:56about the FBI! I am talking about the people that he lived with! I am
0:39:56 > 0:39:58talking about the neighbours who saw him outside holding guns! If the
0:39:58 > 0:40:02president wants to come up to me and tell me it is a terrible tragedy and
0:40:02 > 0:40:04how it should never and maintained telling to be done about it, I will
0:40:04 > 0:40:07happily ask him how much money he received from the National Rifle
0:40:07 > 0:40:07Association nothing
0:40:11 > 0:40:17CHEERING. Know something? It doesn't matter because I already know! Do
0:40:17 > 0:40:20you want to know something? It doesn't matter because I already
0:40:20 > 0:40:22know! $30 billiondivided by the number of gunshot victims in the
0:40:22 > 0:40:27United States one and a half months of 2018 alone, that comes out to
0:40:27 > 0:40:32being $5,800. Is that how much these people are worth to you, Trump one
0:40:32 > 0:40:35and a half months of 2018 alone, that comes out to being $5,800. Is
0:40:35 > 0:40:38that how much these people are worth to you, Trump?! You did not number
0:40:38 > 0:40:41of gunshot victims will go up and the number they are worth will go
0:40:41 > 0:40:46down!And we will be worthless to you, to every politician taking
0:40:46 > 0:40:58donations from the NRA, shame on from continuing, that number of
0:40:58 > 0:41:01gunshot victims will go up and the number they are worth will go down!
0:41:01 > 0:41:04And we will be worthless to you, to every politician taking donations
0:41:04 > 0:41:05from the NRA, shame on you!
0:41:11 > 0:41:12So where does President Trump stand on gun control?
0:41:17 > 0:41:23-- shame on youyour second Amendment, OK? I am going to save
0:41:23 > 0:41:31your second Amendment I am going to save your second Amendment, OK? I am
0:41:31 > 0:41:38going to save your second. If some of those great people that were in
0:41:38 > 0:41:42that club had guns strapped to their waists or strapped to other
0:41:42 > 0:41:47direction, aimed at this guy who was just open target practice, you would
0:41:47 > 0:41:52have had a situation, folks, and if the bullets were going in the other
0:41:52 > 0:41:54direction, aimed at this guy who was just open target practice, you would
0:41:54 > 0:41:57have had a situation, folks, which would always horrible but nothing
0:41:57 > 0:42:01like suffered this weekend. That we all, as a people, suffered
0:42:01 > 0:42:09this weekend. By the way, if she gets to pick Hillary wants to
0:42:09 > 0:42:10abolish, centrally abolished, the second Amendment.
0:42:10 > 0:42:16By the way, if she gets to pickalthough the second Amendment
0:42:16 > 0:42:18people, maybe there is, I don't know.
0:42:18 > 0:42:22You know she is very much against the second Amendment. She wants to
0:42:22 > 0:42:29destroy your second Amendment. Guns, guns, guns, right?
0:42:39 > 0:42:42I am a very strong supporter of the second Amendment and I am, I don't
0:42:42 > 0:42:45know if Hillary were saying it in a sarcastic manner, but I'm proud to
0:42:45 > 0:42:49have the endorsement of the NRA and it is the earliest endorsement they
0:42:49 > 0:42:57have ever given to anybody who ran for president.
0:42:57 > 0:43:02So let me make a simple promise to everyone of the freedom loving
0:43:02 > 0:43:10Americans in the audience today. As your president, I will never ever
0:43:10 > 0:43:25infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Never ever.
0:43:29 > 0:43:32We can talk now to three students from the school in Parkland.
0:43:32 > 0:43:35Isabela Barry lost one of her close friends that day.
0:43:35 > 0:43:38Sawyer Garrity is 16 and recently moved to the school
0:43:38 > 0:43:40and knew two of the victims.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43And 16 year old Ashley Paseltiner, who, along with Isabela and Sawyer,
0:43:43 > 0:43:45had to hide from the gunman for over 90 minutes.
0:43:45 > 0:43:48We are very grateful to you for getting up so early to talk to other
0:43:48 > 0:43:52British audience, thank you so much. Ashley, I want to begin with you, if
0:43:52 > 0:43:55I may. You heard a firearm, you thought it was a drill and you began
0:43:55 > 0:44:01to file out. What happened after that?So, our classroom is right
0:44:01 > 0:44:05across from the building where the shooting happened. Our location for
0:44:05 > 0:44:09where we are supposed to go during a fire drill is right next to the
0:44:09 > 0:44:13building, so my class started filing out of the room, we were walking
0:44:13 > 0:44:17across the grass towards the building and we heard gunshots. I
0:44:17 > 0:44:22believe I heard at least four of them, and everything started to
0:44:22 > 0:44:27scatter. It turned into chaos and we ran into our classroom again. We
0:44:27 > 0:44:32turned off the lights and we went into the back closet, and we just
0:44:32 > 0:44:45tried to stay quiet until it was all over.And you work texting
0:44:46 > 0:44:49your mum and dad, what were they saying to you?My mum was just
0:44:49 > 0:44:52telling me to be quiet. I kept telling both of my parents how much
0:44:52 > 0:44:55I love them, I couldn't imagine not telling them again, but if something
0:44:55 > 0:44:58were ever to happen, but they were just trying to tell me to stay safe.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00Isabela, one of your friends died on the 14th of February, Helena Ramsey,
0:45:00 > 0:45:04she was one of your close friends. Tell our audience a little about
0:45:04 > 0:45:14Helena?She was really kind, so selfless, she was one of just the
0:45:14 > 0:45:18nicest people I will ever meet in my life, and I'm just really glad I got
0:45:18 > 0:45:23to meet her.And when you realised she was one of those who lost her
0:45:23 > 0:45:31life, what did you think?I started with disbelief. I was kind of hoping
0:45:31 > 0:45:40that she would be OK. We hoped we would find her at hospital, but once
0:45:40 > 0:45:44the search was over we kind of had a feeling and we just tried to fight
0:45:44 > 0:45:50that feeling, but we found out and it was just, it was probably one of
0:45:50 > 0:45:56the worst feelings I have ever felt in my life.Sawyer, you, too, were
0:45:56 > 0:46:02hiding in the storage room, what was that like for you?It was bad. It
0:46:02 > 0:46:07was claustrophobic, it was dark, there was barely any air
0:46:07 > 0:46:10ventilation, there was no service so we could barely get in contact with
0:46:10 > 0:46:13our parent and I remember the whole time thinking, this is not how I
0:46:13 > 0:46:18want to die, this is not how I want to go.
0:46:19 > 0:46:23What do you feel is the mood among those who have survived this
0:46:23 > 0:46:35shooting?I think a lot of us feel like it is our duty to change, to
0:46:35 > 0:46:40make change in the world, but also a lot of us feel guilty for being
0:46:40 > 0:46:45alive
0:46:45 > 0:46:46... alive
0:46:46 > 0:46:46... When alive
0:46:46 > 0:46:46... When so alive
0:46:46 > 0:46:46... When so many alive
0:46:46 > 0:46:47... When so many have alive
0:46:47 > 0:46:48... When so many have died. alive
0:46:48 > 0:46:49... When so many have died.What alive
0:46:49 > 0:46:52... When so many have died.What about you, what you want to do now?
0:46:52 > 0:46:56The most important thing out of all of this is that we need to get
0:46:56 > 0:47:01justice, justice for those 17 classmates of mine that have
0:47:01 > 0:47:06unfortunately lost their lives. For the 14 victims who were injured and
0:47:06 > 0:47:11stop we have two fight for them, because they do not have the ability
0:47:11 > 0:47:16to at this moment. And it is very important to me and I think to all
0:47:16 > 0:47:21of my classmates and the rest of my school that they receive justice,
0:47:21 > 0:47:27through reform of better gun-control laws and more mental health
0:47:27 > 0:47:31awareness so that something like this never has to happen to another
0:47:31 > 0:47:36family or another school ever again. Do you think that this, this is the
0:47:36 > 0:47:42watershed, this is the tipping point, and if you think it is, tell
0:47:42 > 0:47:51us why it is different to Columbine, or Sandy Hook.I don't know why but
0:47:51 > 0:47:57right now I do feel that, I don't know why, but the uproar, the
0:47:57 > 0:48:04ultimate support of everything going round right now is amazing. And I
0:48:04 > 0:48:13think that as a whole, this was a great community to be a part of, and
0:48:13 > 0:48:17when this happened, we all flocked together, in Parkland, and we were
0:48:17 > 0:48:23able to say, enough is enough, we are not letting this happen to
0:48:23 > 0:48:27another school or community again. For that to happen, what has to
0:48:27 > 0:48:33change, to make sure this does not happen to another school?Better
0:48:33 > 0:48:41gun-control laws. Background checks. Maybe not even to sell automatic
0:48:41 > 0:48:45weapons, because if anyone feels they need one, that they genuinely
0:48:45 > 0:48:48need an automatic weapon, they probably don't need one! They
0:48:48 > 0:48:56probably should not be getting one in the first place. I think that if
0:48:56 > 0:49:03someone did the smallest background check on this man, then they would
0:49:03 > 0:49:11have realised he was not fit to have even the dainty is type of gun.What
0:49:11 > 0:49:16do you want to see change to specifically?I believe that there
0:49:16 > 0:49:23should be better background checks, and I wish that the entire country
0:49:23 > 0:49:30was on the same pains as us.-- daintiest.I understand some people
0:49:30 > 0:49:34think that we are infringing on their second Amendment rights, we
0:49:34 > 0:49:38are not trying to take away their handguns or protection, just
0:49:38 > 0:49:44stricter and, you know, common-sense laws to be placed. -- I wish that
0:49:44 > 0:49:49the entire country was on the same page as us. Laws so that people who
0:49:49 > 0:49:53have dangerous records, homicidal thoughts, so that they will not be
0:49:53 > 0:49:55able to get their hands on a semiautomatic rifle that can kill so
0:49:55 > 0:50:02many people!This has been said before, there are many messages from
0:50:02 > 0:50:08the audience, who are praising your eloquence and dignity and your
0:50:08 > 0:50:14bravery this morning, Leo says this, all these children who go to these
0:50:14 > 0:50:19college schools should boycott them, that would make your government
0:50:19 > 0:50:24listen, actions speak louder than words, unite and holds tight and
0:50:24 > 0:50:29boycott school and then your voices will be heard, what you say to that?
0:50:29 > 0:50:34I feel that that is probably a good way to get things done, I know that
0:50:34 > 0:50:38there has been talk around my community about having specific
0:50:38 > 0:50:43dates, calling it a walk-out, where we will not attend school until
0:50:43 > 0:50:47things change. I have many classmates of mine who feel the same
0:50:47 > 0:50:52way, who will not be attending school in the next week that we go
0:50:52 > 0:50:56back, and I think that it will really bring a lot of attention to
0:50:56 > 0:51:05this.On Tuesday, many of you are going, about 100 of you are going to
0:51:05 > 0:51:11Tallahassee, tell us what you are going there, what will you be doing?
0:51:11 > 0:51:14We are going to a meeting with representatives, in Tallahassee,
0:51:14 > 0:51:18from our government, and we are going to split up into groups of
0:51:18 > 0:51:24kids and we are all going to speak to them about what we want, and what
0:51:24 > 0:51:29we want to change, and all the things that need to be said,
0:51:29 > 0:51:40face-to-face. Thank you for speaking with us.Thank you for speaking to
0:51:40 > 0:51:43this British audience.
0:51:52 > 0:51:56After ten o'clock, we will be talking about the cost of higher
0:51:56 > 0:51:58education in England.
0:52:01 > 0:52:04When Hannah Jones was 13 years old she made national headlines
0:52:04 > 0:52:06over her decision to refuse a life-saving heart transplant,
0:52:06 > 0:52:08giving herself the right to die.
0:52:08 > 0:52:10Hannah had spent so much of her childhood in hospitals
0:52:10 > 0:52:12being treated for leukaemia that she simply could not
0:52:12 > 0:52:20face any more treatment.
0:52:20 > 0:52:23It says somewhere that if you have a heart transplant, you have to have
0:52:23 > 0:52:27one and then go back and have another one in ten years, not
0:52:27 > 0:52:31another stay in hospital, I thought, it is not worth it, and that made me
0:52:31 > 0:52:42think, no thanks. I thought it was not worth it. I have had enough.
0:52:42 > 0:52:45Just after her 14th birthday, to change the mind, she had the heart
0:52:45 > 0:52:51transplant. Now, at the age of 22, she's here to talk to us about that
0:52:51 > 0:52:56life-saving change of heart. You are well, you have had a recent checkup.
0:52:56 > 0:53:04Nine years this summer everything is going fine.Nine years, my goodness.
0:53:04 > 0:53:07You were five years old when you were diagnosed with leukaemia. How
0:53:07 > 0:53:12much do you remember about the treatment that was involved then as
0:53:12 > 0:53:17you were growing up?
0:53:17 > 0:53:21They class chemotherapy as a cure for leukaemia, trying everything and
0:53:21 > 0:53:25anything they could to make me well, I remember being ill as a well and
0:53:25 > 0:53:28every day was in hospital, same thing every day, I understand they
0:53:28 > 0:53:32were trying to make me better, doing everything in my best interest but I
0:53:32 > 0:53:35realised I was not a normal child and that was probably how my life
0:53:35 > 0:53:42would be.How did the leukaemia damage your heart?It was working at
0:53:42 > 0:53:4720 of 30% of a normal heart, I could not keep up with my peers, I missed
0:53:47 > 0:53:54a lot of my schooling, I was not having a normal life.Thinking back
0:53:54 > 0:53:57to your decision to refuse the heart transplant as a 13-year-old, what do
0:53:57 > 0:54:02you think of your 13-year-old self? I think that I was incredibly brave,
0:54:02 > 0:54:06maybe slightly naive but I think it was very brave to go against all
0:54:06 > 0:54:10those people who said, you should go and have that will stop looking back
0:54:10 > 0:54:13on it, I knew what was the best thing for me, that was the only
0:54:13 > 0:54:18thing that mattered.Because too much of your life had been spent in
0:54:18 > 0:54:22hospitals?Same for walls, doing the same thing every day, at some point
0:54:22 > 0:54:29you have to say, no. -- same four walls.One of the things that made
0:54:29 > 0:54:35you change your mind which your desire to go to your school prom.I
0:54:35 > 0:54:39wanted the big dress, the tiara, the hair, the make up, I wanted to
0:54:39 > 0:54:42finish off my high school life, although I had not been there for
0:54:42 > 0:54:46all of it, I wanted to experience it with all my friends.Indeed, you did
0:54:46 > 0:54:54make it, after the operation.It was not long until after I had it and I
0:54:54 > 0:54:59thought, I am here, it was a great feeling.How do you reflect on the
0:54:59 > 0:55:05fact that your story became national news headlines, it was massive?I
0:55:05 > 0:55:10cannot believe it went that far, I thought I was ordinary until I saw
0:55:10 > 0:55:13my face on television, and I thought, maybe someone has taken
0:55:13 > 0:55:20notice. Up until then I thought I was a normal child.We will play
0:55:20 > 0:55:28this clip, you were grappling with the decision, you said you wanted it
0:55:28 > 0:55:39but you were grappling with it.I did a 360 there. Obviously people
0:55:39 > 0:55:43will still be asking me, do you want this, what is your decision? I don't
0:55:43 > 0:55:51know... It is not an easy decision to make. And I will fight anybody
0:55:51 > 0:55:58who says it is, because it is not. Nobody should have to make it. Not
0:55:58 > 0:56:02even a person as young as me should have to make it, nobody should have
0:56:02 > 0:56:10to make it.You were smiling then but that is a real, that is really
0:56:10 > 0:56:13illustrative of how much pressure you were under.Really is, yes and
0:56:13 > 0:56:18looking back I was thinking, I was so young, so little, how did I make
0:56:18 > 0:56:23that decision in the end?Do you remember the surgeons, the surgeon
0:56:23 > 0:56:29who did it?I do, and on the day, the day he was due to go on holiday,
0:56:29 > 0:56:34getting on a flight, he got the call to say there was a heart for me, he
0:56:34 > 0:56:38decided to not go on holiday and instead do the transplant.We will
0:56:38 > 0:56:46bring him in, he is here. I hope he is here, here he comes. Hello, good
0:56:46 > 0:56:57morning, how are you? Come in. You may remember Hannah.We have not
0:56:57 > 0:57:03seen each other in a long time. Since surgery.I am speechless. Not
0:57:03 > 0:57:07a good thing on live television! LAUGHTER
0:57:07 > 0:57:15Amazing.I just want to say, thank you.You change your mind, with that
0:57:15 > 0:57:22decision, you changed your life. Amazing. Ten years.Nearly, I can't
0:57:22 > 0:57:27believe it, looking back now, I think, I have grown up so much.
0:57:27 > 0:57:31Having a transplant, when you came to see me, I was thinking, this has
0:57:31 > 0:57:36actually changed my life and it is because of you that I am here today.
0:57:36 > 0:57:44It is almost like a dream that comes true. Because I remember, you had a
0:57:44 > 0:57:46heart transplant, a piggyback transplant when you were a baby, for
0:57:46 > 0:57:50severe heart failure,
0:57:55 > 0:58:03I recall that you have convocations developed relating to the heart
0:58:03 > 0:58:07transplantation, but we figured out what the problem was, and we took
0:58:07 > 0:58:15the decision to remove the diseased donor's heart, and the operation
0:58:15 > 0:58:21went well, and you had a normal life with your own heart will stop with
0:58:21 > 0:58:30no medications. And now you have graduated! What more does a heart
0:58:30 > 0:58:34surgeon want!LAUGHTER So interesting to hear you speak
0:58:34 > 0:58:37about this in the way you are talking about it, I don't now how
0:58:37 > 0:58:42often you would see a patient ten years after the event, a patient
0:58:42 > 0:58:51clearly happy and thriving and well. That is why you do it.It is a
0:58:51 > 0:58:55privilege to be able to deliver this sort of service, and it is quite an
0:58:55 > 0:58:59honour to be able to do this sort of work at Great Ormond Street
0:58:59 > 0:59:05Hospital. I think you are a very good example, we are building a very
0:59:05 > 0:59:08successful transplant programme on top of a very successful baby heart
0:59:08 > 0:59:13surgery programme, the two go together hand-in-hand. You are a
0:59:13 > 0:59:19perfect example. For ten years, the results of transplantation have
0:59:19 > 0:59:25improved a lot. And we have better drugs to deal with the complications
0:59:25 > 0:59:34that we need. We still have a major problem. The problem is the
0:59:34 > 0:59:38limitation in the donor availability.Absolutely.I think
0:59:38 > 0:59:47your programme is very useful, at least we are talking about it. We
0:59:47 > 0:59:52are paying attention to the problem. I hope that message will get across
0:59:52 > 0:59:57to the population, we need support, because we get a lot more patients
0:59:57 > 1:00:04now waiting for the transplant because it has been very successful.
1:00:04 > 1:00:08Thank you both, thank you very much, nice to see you reunited since the
1:00:08 > 1:00:13operation. I know that you are extremely busy, we are grateful for
1:00:13 > 1:00:19your time, but I know that you wanted to come to see Hannah.It is
1:00:19 > 1:00:20amazing.
1:00:26 > 1:00:29We will bring the latest news and sport in a moment but first the
1:00:29 > 1:00:30weather.
1:00:33 > 1:00:38After what has been a cold few weeks, we started the day frost free
1:00:38 > 1:00:44across just about all of the UK. But it is a week of change, it will turn
1:00:44 > 1:00:48a bit colder but also become drier because for the moment it is fairly
1:00:48 > 1:00:52damp out there, outbreaks of rain and drizzle continued through parts
1:00:52 > 1:00:55of Scotland and Central eastern England at the moment, cloud
1:00:55 > 1:00:58breaking up to allow some sunshine through, generally a fairly cloudy
1:00:58 > 1:01:02day but a bit of sunshine and it almost feels like spring is upon us,
1:01:02 > 1:01:06temperatures up to 13, maybe 14 in some spots. Always cooler in the
1:01:06 > 1:01:11eastern areas with the rain, and this evening Northern Ireland and
1:01:11 > 1:01:14Scotland will see a spell of rain from West to east for a time, a few
1:01:14 > 1:01:19splashes of rain and the wettest weather in eastern Scotland, Eastern
1:01:19 > 1:01:23counties of England. Later on the skies were clear to the west,
1:01:23 > 1:01:25temperatures will drop, there could be some frost tomorrow morning but
1:01:25 > 1:01:30most will be frost free, a vastly brighter day through much of
1:01:30 > 1:01:33Scotland, Northern Ireland, western England and Wales, good sunny spells
1:01:33 > 1:01:37throughout, eastern England staying cloudy and across parts of East
1:01:37 > 1:01:40Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, East Anglia into the south-east, further rain or
1:01:40 > 1:01:44drizzle at times but it stays mild, things are on the change, the
1:01:44 > 1:01:49weather trend showed us nicely through the rest of the week,
1:01:49 > 1:01:52temperatures dropping as a strong easterly wind picks up. We will keep
1:01:52 > 1:01:55you updated, goodbye for now.
1:02:02 > 1:02:04Hello, it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
1:02:04 > 1:02:05Our top story...
1:02:05 > 1:02:07Theresa May is to launch a year-long review of how higher
1:02:07 > 1:02:07Theresa May is to launch a year-long review of how higher
1:02:08 > 1:02:08Theresa May is to launch a year-long review of how higher
1:02:08 > 1:02:10education is funded, admitting that England has one
1:02:10 > 1:02:11of the most expensive university systems.
1:02:11 > 1:02:13The Education Secretary Damian Hinds says thieves need to be addressed.
1:02:13 > 1:02:20The average fee is something like £9,000, very close to the top. We
1:02:20 > 1:02:21want to see more variety on that.
1:02:21 > 1:02:24We'll be speaking to students and politicians about the cost
1:02:24 > 1:02:25of higher education.
1:02:25 > 1:02:26Also on the programme...
1:02:26 > 1:02:28Serial paedophile football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced
1:02:28 > 1:02:37today for abuse of dozens of boy on an "industrial scale".
1:02:37 > 1:02:42Micky Fallon, who was abused by Ben Els from the age of 13, told us what
1:02:42 > 1:02:47a devastating impact it has had on his life.I could not cope with it,
1:02:47 > 1:02:51I turned to alcohol, took me two years to get myself some counselling
1:02:51 > 1:02:56in terms of being alcohol dependent, and that accumulated in me trying to
1:02:56 > 1:02:59take my own life at one stage. We will be live outside Liverpool
1:02:59 > 1:03:08Crown Court before 11am.
1:03:08 > 1:03:11And Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri has dominated the BAFTA
1:03:11 > 1:03:14film awards, winning five trophies.
1:03:14 > 1:03:18It focuses on a woman looking for justice,
1:03:18 > 1:03:22played by Frances McDormand, who picked up Best Actress.
1:03:23 > 1:03:28I have a little trouble with compliance. But I want you to know
1:03:28 > 1:03:31that I stand in full solidarity with my sisters tonight in black. Power
1:03:31 > 1:03:42to the people.
1:03:47 > 1:03:49Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom
1:03:49 > 1:03:51with a summary of today's news.
1:03:51 > 1:03:53Theresa May will today launch a year-long review of how
1:03:53 > 1:03:55higher education is funded, admitting that England has one
1:03:55 > 1:03:58of the most expensive systems of tuition in the world.
1:03:58 > 1:04:00In a speech in Derbyshire, the Prime Minister will say
1:04:00 > 1:04:03she shares the concerns of students and parents about the cost
1:04:03 > 1:04:06of getting a degree.
1:04:06 > 1:04:09Labour has accused the government of simply kicking the problem
1:04:09 > 1:04:10into the long grass.
1:04:10 > 1:04:11Oxfam has revealed that charity workers physically
1:04:11 > 1:04:13threatened witnesses during an investigation into sexual
1:04:13 > 1:04:16misconduct in Haiti in 2011.
1:04:16 > 1:04:18The report includes accusations of bullying, intimidation of staff
1:04:18 > 1:04:21and use of prostitutes, as well as suggesting that Oxfam
1:04:21 > 1:04:23bosses ignored a recommendation that better ways should be found
1:04:23 > 1:04:33to inform other charities about problem staff.
1:04:43 > 1:04:44The former football coach Barry Bennell
1:04:44 > 1:04:46will be sentenced today for historical sexual assaults
1:04:46 > 1:04:49committed on young boys in his care.
1:04:49 > 1:04:51The 64-year-old, who worked with Manchester City
1:04:51 > 1:04:53and Crewe Alexandra's youth teams, was convicted of 50 child sex
1:04:53 > 1:04:58offences at Liverpool Crown Court.
1:04:58 > 1:05:03over a period spanning three decades.
1:05:03 > 1:05:06The Equality and Human Rights Commission says
1:05:06 > 1:05:08a survey of 100 employers it commissioned has revealed
1:05:08 > 1:05:09"antiquated" attitudes to recruiting women.
1:05:09 > 1:05:12The poll found that more than half believed a woman should
1:05:12 > 1:05:18have to say if she was pregnant during the recruitment process,
1:05:18 > 1:05:21and 44% thought women should work for a firm for at least a year
1:05:21 > 1:05:25before having children.
1:05:25 > 1:05:28The mother of a seriously ill six-year-old boy has described the
1:05:28 > 1:05:35decision not to allow him to use medically license cannabis is
1:05:35 > 1:05:38astonishing. She has pleaded for help to overturn the decision,
1:05:38 > 1:05:42saying cannabis oil is safer for her son and his present treatment.
1:05:42 > 1:05:46A group of American teenagers who survived a school shooting in
1:05:46 > 1:05:50Florida has announced a national march on Washington to demand
1:05:50 > 1:05:54political action on gun control. They said they are determined that
1:05:54 > 1:05:58the mass shooting in which 17 people died will be a turning point in the
1:05:58 > 1:06:02debate about guns. Former shareholders in collapsed
1:06:02 > 1:06:05construction giant Carillion are calling for its management to be
1:06:05 > 1:06:09investigated. Some have told MPs that the company's executives lost
1:06:09 > 1:06:12or should have known about its cash flow problems well before it went
1:06:12 > 1:06:17into liquidation last month. At the same time, say MPs, investors were
1:06:17 > 1:06:24fleeing for the hills.
1:06:24 > 1:06:25Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri,
1:06:25 > 1:06:28a film about a mother seeking justice for her daughter's
1:06:28 > 1:06:30murder, was the big winner at the Bafta awards last night.
1:06:30 > 1:06:33It won five prizes including best film and best actress
1:06:33 > 1:06:34for Frances McDormand.
1:06:34 > 1:06:36The theme of justice and equality for women dominated the event,
1:06:36 > 1:06:39with most guests wearing black to show solidarity with campaigns
1:06:39 > 1:06:45against abuse and harassment.
1:06:45 > 1:06:49That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.
1:06:49 > 1:06:58Thank you. Messages from you about our interview with survivors of the
1:06:58 > 1:07:02shooting in Florida last week. We spoke to 316-year-olds who described
1:07:02 > 1:07:05with calm eloquence how terrifying it was and that they want to see
1:07:05 > 1:07:09change. Audrey says, this is heartbreaking, young children cut
1:07:09 > 1:07:13down senselessly, no question that gun laws in the US need to change.
1:07:13 > 1:07:17Brave girl for speaking out, you are the voices that need to be listened
1:07:17 > 1:07:18to. Chuck says, congratulations, Donald
1:07:18 > 1:07:24Trump, you have created the first generation of citizens who will
1:07:24 > 1:07:28amend your ridiculous gun laws. Another says, when the second
1:07:28 > 1:07:32Amendment was written it was on people had muskets, not military
1:07:32 > 1:07:35grade or two presence. America will never ban the ownership of weapons
1:07:35 > 1:07:41because it is written into the law. This from Josh, I will never fully
1:07:41 > 1:07:42understand
1:07:42 > 1:07:52guns. Thank you for those.
1:07:58 > 1:08:03Let's get some sport with Sarah. The Winter Olympics went down to the
1:08:03 > 1:08:07wire, Great Britain's men needed four wins from seven in the curling
1:08:07 > 1:08:11and it was tight throughout but eventually they came through 7-6
1:08:11 > 1:08:14against Denmark which puts them in a very strong position to earn a place
1:08:14 > 1:08:20in the last four. Just after 11am, GB's women will take on Switzerland,
1:08:20 > 1:08:23that is after the hog line controversy yesterday so we will see
1:08:23 > 1:08:28how they get on. Less than two years after being told
1:08:28 > 1:08:34she may never skate again after a very nasty knee injury, shattered in
1:08:34 > 1:08:38eight places, I dancer Penny Combs and her partner Nick Bjorklund have
1:08:38 > 1:08:42qualified for the short dance final. Earlier this morning, this was their
1:08:42 > 1:08:47routine, finishing tenth place ahead of tomorrow's free dance where the
1:08:47 > 1:08:52medals are decided after two routines. Christopher Dean, who won
1:08:52 > 1:08:56Olympic gold alongside Jane Torvill back in 1984, helped choreograph
1:08:56 > 1:09:02this routine. It was a good morning for Rowan
1:09:02 > 1:09:05Cheshire in the freestyle skiing half pipe. Her performance was good
1:09:05 > 1:09:10enough to see her qualify for the finals. Unfortunately, though, the
1:09:10 > 1:09:15other Brit in the competition, Molly Summerhays, missed out.
1:09:15 > 1:09:18There was huge disappointment as well for Amy Fuller in the
1:09:18 > 1:09:23snowboarding big error event. This is making its debut at the games
1:09:23 > 1:09:27this year. Fuller fell on both attempts, including that big crush
1:09:27 > 1:09:33on her second jump. Unfortunately, her Olympics is over. And it looks
1:09:33 > 1:09:37like her face took the brunt of that iceberg, this was her Tweet this
1:09:37 > 1:09:44morning... Snowboarding parlance there! Away
1:09:44 > 1:09:47from the winters, Tottenham's collective ego may be feeling
1:09:47 > 1:09:51bruised this morning, the romance of the FA Cup evident for all to see
1:09:51 > 1:09:59over the weekend as the club at the bottom of League 1, Rochdale, held
1:09:59 > 1:10:02high-flying spurs to a 2-2 draw. They have bagged a replay at Wembley
1:10:02 > 1:10:06thanks to an injury time equaliser from Steve Davies. Spurs took the
1:10:06 > 1:10:10lead through a Harry Kane penalty but the joy belonged to Rochdale.
1:10:10 > 1:10:16Their fans, they have a big day out at Wembley ahead.
1:10:16 > 1:10:20Roger Federer followed up his return to the top of the men's tennis
1:10:20 > 1:10:23rankings by winning the Rotterdam open, beating Grigor Dimitrov in the
1:10:23 > 1:10:29final. The 20 time grand slam champion, who has been confirmed as
1:10:29 > 1:10:37world number one today, beat Dimmock Rob 6-26-2 for his 97th title. --
1:10:37 > 1:10:42beat Dimmock Rob 6-2, 6-2. Australian Wayne Bennett has been
1:10:42 > 1:10:46reappointed as England rugby league coach. He guided the site last
1:10:46 > 1:10:50year's World Cup final, where they lost 6-0 to hosts and favourites
1:10:50 > 1:10:54Australia. There is no guarantee he will lead England into the 2021
1:10:54 > 1:10:58World Cup. And that is the sport for now. Thank
1:10:58 > 1:11:01you, Sarah.
1:11:01 > 1:11:04It's been a tricky political issue for successive ministers -
1:11:04 > 1:11:06how to pay for university education for students from England.
1:11:06 > 1:11:08Labour first controversially introduced tuition
1:11:08 > 1:11:11fees in the late 90s.
1:11:11 > 1:11:16The Lib Dems promised to scrap fees altogether but once in power voted
1:11:16 > 1:11:23to triple them to £9000 a year.
1:11:23 > 1:11:25And, at last June's general election, when Theresa May
1:11:25 > 1:11:27lost her majority, many put Jeremy Corbyn's surprise success
1:11:27 > 1:11:29down to his support among young people and his own pledge
1:11:30 > 1:11:31to scrap the fees.
1:11:31 > 1:11:33Well, later today the Prime Minister will step into the debate.
1:11:33 > 1:11:36She's expected to say she "shares the concerns" of young people,
1:11:36 > 1:11:38parents and grandparents about the fees system,
1:11:38 > 1:11:40as she launches review of how our universities are funded.
1:11:40 > 1:11:43Let's look ahead to Mrs May's speech and ask what it
1:11:43 > 1:11:49might mean for students - and their bank balances.
1:11:49 > 1:11:55With me here are students Abdi Duale, a Labour
1:11:55 > 1:11:58activist, and Ellie King, a Conservative activist.
1:11:58 > 1:12:07We've also got the Conservative chairman of the education select
1:12:07 > 1:12:11-- the vice chancellor of the University of
1:12:11 > 1:12:16Bedfordshire Bill Rammell.
1:12:16 > 1:12:19This has been pretty damning for vice chancellors like yourself? The
1:12:19 > 1:12:22reason we have an expensive system is because in 2012 the Government
1:12:22 > 1:12:27cut the teaching bread to universities by 80% and fees have
1:12:27 > 1:12:33gone up to deliver a good student experience. If the Government...But
1:12:33 > 1:12:39some courses are cheaper than others yet you all charged £9,250, pretty
1:12:39 > 1:12:43much.About 50% of the costs are non-core specifics are they apply to
1:12:43 > 1:12:49students across the board and there is a perverse incentive built in by
1:12:49 > 1:12:51the Government which suggests it want some courses to be cheaper than
1:12:51 > 1:12:56others. It will encourage poorer students to choose courses which are
1:12:56 > 1:13:00not necessarily the courses that they want to undertake. If the
1:13:00 > 1:13:04system broken? No, I don't believe it is. There is no evidence students
1:13:04 > 1:13:08have been deterred from applying to university and applications have
1:13:08 > 1:13:12gone up fastest amongst students from poorer backgrounds...Which is
1:13:12 > 1:13:24true, but it is whether what you are charging them is fair?I think it
1:13:24 > 1:13:26is. If you look in the university investments, facilities,
1:13:26 > 1:13:29improvements in staff to student with years, all of that has led to
1:13:29 > 1:13:31an all-time high satisfaction levels amongst students as measured by the
1:13:31 > 1:13:34National student survey, so I think the system is working but there are
1:13:34 > 1:13:38changes that can and should be made. The Government committed a gross
1:13:38 > 1:13:42error when it abolished nonrepayable grants for poorer students and I
1:13:42 > 1:13:45think that should be returned, and I think they need to look up the
1:13:45 > 1:13:53interest rate charged which, for some students, 6.1%, is arguably
1:13:53 > 1:13:59penal at a time when interest rates are at an all-time low.Let me speak
1:13:59 > 1:14:04to the students, then. Is this working?Tuition freeze our free at
1:14:04 > 1:14:10the point of use... When Angela Rayner says they are not, they are,
1:14:10 > 1:14:14the £9,000 does not deter you from applying, we have more
1:14:14 > 1:14:16underprivileged people coming university than ever before but I
1:14:16 > 1:14:19think the problem is interest rates and the problem is interest rates
1:14:19 > 1:14:21and of repayment threshold, we should raise the repayment
1:14:21 > 1:14:25threshold, it is going up to £25,000, I think it is, and that
1:14:25 > 1:14:30means students earning less are paying such small amounts of the
1:14:30 > 1:14:33month, I think it would be £15 a month they are paying back towards
1:14:33 > 1:14:36their tuition, so many students will not even write it off, it will be
1:14:36 > 1:14:40written off after 30 years and I think the interest rates do need to
1:14:40 > 1:14:43be lower because I think that is absolutely ridiculous.What about
1:14:43 > 1:14:50the cost of courses at the moment?I think it would be nice to have them
1:14:50 > 1:14:54lowered, but, as the Vice Chancellor was saying, if we lower than it is
1:14:54 > 1:14:56at risk of losing bursaries for people from underprivileged
1:14:56 > 1:15:01backgrounds, support for those people of getting into education. I
1:15:01 > 1:15:04received a bursary from the Government and from my university,
1:15:04 > 1:15:07and if I did not have that it would be a barrier.I think the argument
1:15:07 > 1:15:14that somehow students sought tuition fees and ran away from university, I
1:15:14 > 1:15:19think the reason people are playing is because they need a degree to get
1:15:19 > 1:15:26a good job so...It must be interesting that it has not put
1:15:26 > 1:15:29people off?The amount of students applying for part-time degrees has
1:15:29 > 1:15:35gone down dramatically, more than 50%.But not full-time courses?
1:15:35 > 1:15:39Those students who might have wanted to work as well a study. If you look
1:15:39 > 1:15:43at older students changing careers, a lot of them are deterred because
1:15:43 > 1:15:48of the tuition fee so it is deterring students. But they are not
1:15:48 > 1:15:51getting value for money, lecturers are striking because people at the
1:15:51 > 1:15:54top of the University are being paid ridiculous amounts of money when
1:15:54 > 1:15:58lecturers' pensions are cut year-on-year.I think it is bizarre.
1:15:58 > 1:16:02So what should change? Ellie says interest rate should come down and
1:16:02 > 1:16:05there should be an increase in the threshold before you start paying
1:16:05 > 1:16:10back? Tuition fees need to be cut further than £6,000, 6000 is
1:16:10 > 1:16:16ridiculous but the Government incentive on... How should that be
1:16:16 > 1:16:20funded, general taxation?You can bring in graduate tax, there are
1:16:20 > 1:16:24different routes that we can support.Are you saying that the
1:16:24 > 1:16:28people who do degrees, and benefit, should be the ones paying for it?
1:16:28 > 1:16:33The argument is, should they pay £9,000?No, it is too much. What
1:16:33 > 1:16:37type of funding method, should it be that people who do the degree who
1:16:37 > 1:16:41pays for it?I think it should not be a market system, it is a service
1:16:41 > 1:16:46given to people, similar to the health service.So he funded from
1:16:46 > 1:16:50general taxation?Yes, but also through paying something through
1:16:50 > 1:16:55graduate taxes. Students don't pay the money back anyway and the worst
1:16:55 > 1:16:59thing is probably the interest rate, 6.1%, even more than if you have a
1:16:59 > 1:17:03mortgage, so I think those kinds of things, and the Government trying to
1:17:03 > 1:17:07tinker around by making some degree is some others will put some
1:17:07 > 1:17:11students from stem degrees where they will keep those at £9,000 so I
1:17:11 > 1:17:15think it is bizarre and it all comes from the general election, we know
1:17:15 > 1:17:17the reason Theresa May and the Government are doing this is that
1:17:17 > 1:17:21they saw the outcome of the general election and realised they had gone
1:17:21 > 1:17:24wrong. They were trying to increase with inflation every year and in a
1:17:24 > 1:17:28few years it would be at £10,000 but they are taking a step back and the
1:17:28 > 1:17:30youth have said, we don't want this any
1:17:30 > 1:17:34If people want higher education, what is wrong with paying for it,
1:17:34 > 1:17:44one US says?We live in a country where the last generation, we are
1:17:44 > 1:17:50not getting value for money.I choose to go to university to
1:17:50 > 1:17:58attempt to get a better job, income, and then you get somebody who go
1:17:58 > 1:18:02straight into work, why should they be taxed to pay for my education
1:18:02 > 1:18:05when I have made the decision myself, that is not fair at all, the
1:18:05 > 1:18:10system at the moment is a graduate tax in all but name.The current
1:18:10 > 1:18:14system does not work, because students are not getting value for
1:18:14 > 1:18:20money, we see it with most final year students. It is because wages
1:18:20 > 1:18:30are being undercut. My degree has not been value for money, pensions
1:18:30 > 1:18:41being cut.How visit affect value for money?I am paying huge amounts
1:18:41 > 1:18:46of sums of money, but not going to lecturers, and the vice Chancellor
1:18:46 > 1:18:51fees have gone up every single year. At Bath, they rejected the
1:18:51 > 1:18:55ridiculous amount of money that the Vice Chancellor was being paid, they
1:18:55 > 1:18:59do great work but should not be the case that the lowest our undercut
1:18:59 > 1:19:01and the people at the top are getting more bonuses and getting
1:19:01 > 1:19:09more wages.We will see what happens. The Vice Chancellor of
1:19:09 > 1:19:20Bedfordshire University. And two students. Coming up: Barry Bennell
1:19:20 > 1:19:24will be sentenced at me and today for the abuse of boys on an
1:19:24 > 1:19:32industrial scale, we will be live outside Liverpool Crown Court.
1:19:32 > 1:19:34An internal Oxfam report on the sexual misconduct of some
1:19:34 > 1:19:38of its staff in Haiti in 2011 has revealed that three of the men
1:19:38 > 1:19:39involved threatened witnesses during the investigation.
1:19:39 > 1:19:41The charity has published the document for the first time,
1:19:41 > 1:19:44saying it wants to be as transparent as possible.
1:19:44 > 1:19:45It also appears that Oxfam ignored a central
1:19:45 > 1:19:48recommendation of its report, which said better ways should be
1:19:48 > 1:19:58found to inform other agencies about problem staff.
1:19:59 > 1:20:03Some names have been redacted, for what they say is confidentiality
1:20:03 > 1:20:12reasons.
1:20:18 > 1:20:21We can speak now to the Conservative MP Pauline Latham who sits
1:20:21 > 1:20:24on the House of Commons committee that will tomorrow question the head
1:20:24 > 1:20:28of Oxfam and senior figures from the aid charity sector.
1:20:28 > 1:20:33What you make of this report?I think it is pretty shocking that
1:20:33 > 1:20:36they have ignored anything that was in it and I am very shocked about
1:20:36 > 1:20:41the whole industry at the moment, because it seems to be rife
1:20:41 > 1:20:45throughout the industry, not just one charity, seems to be several, in
1:20:45 > 1:20:54fact, probably many.There is no evidence to suggest that?I went to
1:20:54 > 1:20:59a conference two years ago in Istanbul, world humanitarian summit,
1:20:59 > 1:21:03it seemed to be in one of the meetings, that people were talking
1:21:03 > 1:21:07about it openly in a panel, and saying that everybody knew that it
1:21:07 > 1:21:14was happening, so I have been trying to ask to have a central register so
1:21:14 > 1:21:20that we know who these people are, and we do not employ them, or not
1:21:20 > 1:21:23knowingly employ them. So there is a central register for the world, and
1:21:23 > 1:21:30we should not be leading the world's, we should be leading the
1:21:30 > 1:21:38world and stopping this abuse that is going on.Central register of all
1:21:38 > 1:21:42aid workers who have been dismissed? Been allowed to resign with dignity
1:21:42 > 1:21:47as one of these men was? The country director of Oxfam in Haiti was able
1:21:47 > 1:21:51to resign with dignity after admitting that he slept with
1:21:51 > 1:21:55prostitutes in the residence.They should be registered but we need to
1:21:55 > 1:22:01have the cooperation of Oxfam and other NGOs to say that they should
1:22:01 > 1:22:05report them to a central register. I asked if they would do this, but
1:22:05 > 1:22:10they sent me a letter back saying, basically, it was in the too
1:22:10 > 1:22:15difficult to do box and they could not actually do it.When was that,
1:22:15 > 1:22:23recently?Two years ago. We know a lot more now, we do know a lot more,
1:22:23 > 1:22:27it is something we should definitely be doing, we should definitely be
1:22:27 > 1:22:32having a register... These people are not just Brits, it is people
1:22:32 > 1:22:36from round the world, sometimes it is local staff, in country. We need
1:22:36 > 1:22:42to make sure they cannot go from one charity to another, maybe with a
1:22:42 > 1:22:46reference, I don't know, but they should not be able to go without a
1:22:46 > 1:22:49stain on their character, if they have been abusing the most
1:22:49 > 1:22:53vulnerable people in the world, women and girls, which is what, the
1:22:53 > 1:22:56people we are supposed to be protecting, we should not be
1:22:56 > 1:23:00allowing them to go from one charity to another without a stain on their
1:23:00 > 1:23:05character.Over the weekend, you will have seen that the Oxfam Chief
1:23:05 > 1:23:08Executive, a man you will be asking questions of tomorrow, has said, the
1:23:08 > 1:23:12stale At The Races Gale and criticism against is organisation is
1:23:12 > 1:23:16out of proportion with what actually happened, he told the Guardian, the
1:23:16 > 1:23:20intensity, of the Frosty of the attack makes you wonder, what did we
1:23:20 > 1:23:24do, did we murder babies, what did you think of that?That is a
1:23:24 > 1:23:31ridiculous knee jerk reaction by him. What he did, not him, he
1:23:31 > 1:23:34probably was not even employed at the time that it happened, what
1:23:34 > 1:23:40Oxfam were doing was not really vigorously putting in place child
1:23:40 > 1:23:43protection procedures, and what we are supposed to be doing is making
1:23:43 > 1:23:49sure that women and children are safe, sometimes they have gone
1:23:49 > 1:23:53through the most, take absolutely traumatic circumstances, and they
1:23:53 > 1:23:57have to have people they can trust in the aid industry so that those
1:23:57 > 1:24:02people in the aid industry look after them and provide help and
1:24:02 > 1:24:06support they require, feeding, inoculations, health, education, all
1:24:06 > 1:24:11sorts of things, but they should be able to trust implicitly the people
1:24:11 > 1:24:16that are employed by the aid agencies, and therefore, know that
1:24:16 > 1:24:23the people are trustworthy, and that anybody who is not has been sacked.
1:24:23 > 1:24:28Just reading, anyone can read through this once confidential
1:24:28 > 1:24:34report, that Oxfam did after what happened in Haiti. The list of those
1:24:34 > 1:24:38who were dismissed all were allowed to resign, of the sleeve and names
1:24:38 > 1:24:43are not included, one dismissal for gross misconduct, failing in his
1:24:43 > 1:24:47duty to protect staff... Another, gross misconduct, use of
1:24:47 > 1:24:53prostitutes. Gross misconduct, bullying and intimidation of Oxfam
1:24:53 > 1:24:57staff and misuse of computing equipment through the access and
1:24:57 > 1:25:01download of pornographic and illegal material, charged with gross
1:25:01 > 1:25:06misconduct for the use of prostitutes on Oxfam property and
1:25:06 > 1:25:10bullying and intimidation. And so it goes on. Should they have released
1:25:10 > 1:25:16this back in 2011?Yes, I don't think these sorts of reports should
1:25:16 > 1:25:20be secret, now it is out in the open, we can do something
1:25:20 > 1:25:28significant about it and that is what I will be asking Difed to do,
1:25:28 > 1:25:31so that we lead the world, so we know that whoever we give money to
1:25:31 > 1:25:36has the right procedures in place, and there is children and women are
1:25:36 > 1:25:41absolutely safe. No good saying that prostitutes are legal, they are
1:25:41 > 1:25:46still victims. -- DFID. I do believe here, where they were suffering
1:25:46 > 1:25:53following the earthquake, they really haven't been, that is what is
1:25:53 > 1:25:59wrong with Oxfam.And many other charities. The Chief Executives has
1:25:59 > 1:26:08suggested that some critics are motivated by an anti-AIDS agenda. --
1:26:08 > 1:26:14anti-aid agenda?I see the good that many of the charities do. I'm
1:26:14 > 1:26:17convinced they have to clean up their act, there will be people who
1:26:17 > 1:26:21say, I never wanted to give to charity, I didn't want the country
1:26:21 > 1:26:25to pay for this, but we must remember, it will be the minority of
1:26:25 > 1:26:30men in these organisations, it will not be the majority but that
1:26:30 > 1:26:34minority need getting rid of so that everyone can have confidence that
1:26:34 > 1:26:39the women and girls that we are trying to protect and probably some
1:26:39 > 1:26:47boys as well are not being sexually abused or raped which is what is
1:26:47 > 1:26:52happening in some cases.Is Mark Goldring the man to lead the change?
1:26:52 > 1:26:56I don't know, I will find out tomorrow when I'm able to question
1:26:56 > 1:26:59him and find out more about what they plan to do and what they have
1:26:59 > 1:27:05done since this came to the fore in 2011. It is not seem to me that they
1:27:05 > 1:27:10have put enough measures in place to stop it happening.What questions
1:27:10 > 1:27:15will you be asking him tomorrow?I don't want to reveal those over the
1:27:15 > 1:27:18air because I do not want him to prepare too much and tell us what he
1:27:18 > 1:27:24thinks we want to hear but one thing that I want to explore is what
1:27:24 > 1:27:28happens about giving references to people who have been perpetrators,
1:27:28 > 1:27:33do they agree with that, do they condone it, do they do it, what is
1:27:33 > 1:27:37the situation. If so, what is the value of a reference?Thank you very
1:27:37 > 1:27:42much for talking to us, thank you.
1:27:48 > 1:27:51The former football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced for the
1:27:51 > 1:27:55abuse he carried out on dozens of young and aspiring footballers,
1:27:55 > 1:27:59three and a half decades ago. Last week, the former Manchester City and
1:27:59 > 1:28:04Crewe Alexandra coach was convicted of abusing 12 boys. In the last
1:28:04 > 1:28:09hour, one of his victims, Mickey Fallon, told me what level of
1:28:09 > 1:28:15punishment he thinks Barry Bennell should receive today?I think today
1:28:15 > 1:28:20is our day. It is about, hopefully, Barry Bennell being put away, and
1:28:20 > 1:28:25never seeing the light of day again. That for us would probably be the
1:28:25 > 1:28:37perfect day, the perfect ending for us, this man does not deserve to
1:28:37 > 1:28:41walk in normal society.You will read out your victim impact
1:28:41 > 1:28:44statement, what are some of the things you want to tell the court
1:28:44 > 1:28:50room and tell Barry Bennell?The impact on me personally, over 33
1:28:50 > 1:29:00years... Has been quite devastating. In terms of being a child, aged 13,
1:29:00 > 1:29:04when this happened to me, my dreams of being a football player
1:29:04 > 1:29:07diminished, I did stay at Crewe Alexandra until the age of 18 but my
1:29:07 > 1:29:11heart was never in it, I had chances after Crewe Alexandra to go to other
1:29:11 > 1:29:14football clubs away but I wanted to move home, I moved home and I never
1:29:14 > 1:29:19moved away from Plymouth after that. I feel like the impact on my
1:29:19 > 1:29:24football career at that stage was pretty damning. In terms of an
1:29:24 > 1:29:29adult, subconsciously, the impact that you then carry with you,
1:29:29 > 1:29:35carrying this dirty secret, is quite devastating, there are very similar
1:29:35 > 1:29:39stories but my personal story, in my early 20s, I really could not cope
1:29:39 > 1:29:45with it, I turned to alcohol. Took me two years really, to get myself
1:29:45 > 1:29:51through counselling. In terms of being alcohol dependent. And I
1:29:51 > 1:29:55remember trying to take my own life at one stage. I don't think anyone
1:29:55 > 1:30:00can really underestimate the impact that airing this kind of secret can
1:30:00 > 1:30:05have on you, not just as a child but when you move forward in your adult
1:30:05 > 1:30:12life, it can be pretty devastating. You only told your partner about the
1:30:12 > 1:30:18abuse you had endured after watching the interview on this programme in
1:30:18 > 1:30:21November, 2016, when four former players spoke out about what Barry
1:30:21 > 1:30:25Bennell had done to them, when you watched those men, what effect did
1:30:25 > 1:30:30that have on you?I cannot explain the feelings, watching... Steve
1:30:30 > 1:30:37Walters... He was my friend before we even went to Crewe come we both
1:30:37 > 1:30:40played youth football, grew up together, we were mates, seeing
1:30:40 > 1:30:45Steve sat on the couch for me... It hit me like a train.
1:30:51 > 1:30:55It was my moment ago, I have to confront this, after 33 years I have
1:30:55 > 1:31:02to be brave and to come out with my secret and deal with it, or do I
1:31:02 > 1:31:06deny myself and people like Stephen, brave enough to sit on that so far,
1:31:06 > 1:31:10the opportunity to say, actually, there were others out there. It hit
1:31:10 > 1:31:15me hard, I did not do it straightaway, it took me a few days,
1:31:15 > 1:31:19but I thought personally it was the right thing to do to come forward
1:31:19 > 1:31:34and show the scale of this. Micky Fallon, who spoke to us this
1:31:34 > 1:31:37morning. The sentencing of Barry Bennell is due at 12pm at Liverpool
1:31:37 > 1:31:41Crown Court and you will be able to hear the outcome. Let me read the
1:31:41 > 1:31:45messages... Adam says, watching the victims on your programme today,
1:31:45 > 1:31:48massive respect to them for speaking out on television, hopefully it will
1:31:48 > 1:31:51encourage more victims to name offenders.
1:31:51 > 1:31:56A text from Earl, I was abused by an older brother from the age of three.
1:31:56 > 1:32:08I told my mother when I was seven and she
1:32:10 > 1:32:13called me a liar. Then she told my dad, who removed him from the family
1:32:13 > 1:32:16home and made him join the Army. I finally reported it to police when I
1:32:16 > 1:32:19was 45 as I wasn't sure what the offence was. When I tried to claim
1:32:19 > 1:32:21criminal injury I was told that because my brother lived in the same
1:32:21 > 1:32:23house as me I was not allowed to claim compensation.
1:32:23 > 1:32:26Thank you for those. Coming up in the next half an hour,
1:32:26 > 1:32:30reaction from last night's BAFTA film awards. Most of the women there
1:32:30 > 1:32:33wore black on the red carpet to call for an end to harassment in the
1:32:33 > 1:32:37industry. We will be joined by actors and activist who have signed
1:32:37 > 1:32:40an open letter calling for a global fight against harassment and abuse
1:32:40 > 1:32:46across all industries. Britain is accused of still being in the dark
1:32:46 > 1:32:50ages when it comes to mothers rights at work. We will talk to one mother
1:32:50 > 1:32:53who was made redundant on maternity leave by the women's organisation
1:32:53 > 1:33:03she worked for.
1:33:03 > 1:33:05Time for the latest news - here's Annita McVeigh.
1:33:05 > 1:33:08Theresa May will today launch a year-long review of how higher
1:33:08 > 1:33:10education is funded, admitting that England has one
1:33:10 > 1:33:12of the most expensive systems of tuition in the world.
1:33:12 > 1:33:14In a speech in Derbyshire, the Prime Minister will say
1:33:14 > 1:33:17she shares the concerns of students and parents about the cost
1:33:17 > 1:33:27of getting a degree.
1:33:29 > 1:33:31Labour has accused the Government of simply kicking the problem
1:33:31 > 1:33:32into the long grass.
1:33:32 > 1:33:34Oxfam has revealed that charity workers physically threatened
1:33:34 > 1:33:36witnesses during an investigation into sexual misconduct
1:33:36 > 1:33:37in Haiti in 2011.
1:33:37 > 1:33:39The report includes accusations of bullying, intimidation of staff
1:33:39 > 1:33:41and use of prostitutes, as well as suggesting that Oxfam
1:33:41 > 1:33:44bosses ignored a recommendation that better ways should be found
1:33:44 > 1:33:47to inform other charities about problem staff.
1:33:47 > 1:33:49The former football coach Barry Bennell will be sentenced
1:33:49 > 1:33:52today for historical sexual assaults committed on young boys in his care.
1:33:52 > 1:33:54The 64-year-old, who worked with Manchester City
1:33:54 > 1:33:57and Crewe Alexandra's youth teams, was convicted of 50 child sex
1:33:57 > 1:34:01offences at Liverpool Crown Court.
1:34:01 > 1:34:04It's thought the former scout may have abused more than 100 boys over
1:34:04 > 1:34:14a period spanning three decades.
1:34:14 > 1:34:16Former shareholders in the collapsed construction giant Carillion
1:34:16 > 1:34:18are calling for its management to be investigated.
1:34:18 > 1:34:20Some have told MPs that the company's
1:34:20 > 1:34:22executives must have known - or should have known -
1:34:22 > 1:34:24about its cash flow problems well before it went
1:34:24 > 1:34:33into liquidation last month.
1:34:33 > 1:34:36At the same time, say MPs, investors were "fleeing for the hills".
1:34:36 > 1:34:39The Bank of England says more than £2 billion worth of old £10
1:34:39 > 1:34:42notes need to be spent or exchanged in the next ten days.
1:34:42 > 1:34:44The notes, featuring Charles Darwin, cease to be legal
1:34:44 > 1:34:51tender on 1st March.
1:34:51 > 1:35:01That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
1:35:03 > 1:35:05Here's some sport now with Sarah.
1:35:05 > 1:35:08It went to the wire but Great Britain's men made it four
1:35:08 > 1:35:09wins from seven on the curling rink.
1:35:09 > 1:35:11It was tight throughout and eventually they came
1:35:11 > 1:35:14through 7-6 against Denmark, which puts them in a very
1:35:14 > 1:35:16strong position to earn a place in the last four.
1:35:16 > 1:35:19Less than two years after being told she may never skate again,
1:35:19 > 1:35:21ice dancer Penny Coomes and her partner Nick Buckland have
1:35:21 > 1:35:23qualified for the short dance final.
1:35:23 > 1:35:25The couple finished in 10th place ahead of tomorrow's free dance.
1:35:25 > 1:35:28It was a good morning too for Rowan Cheshire in the freestyle
1:35:28 > 1:35:32skiing halfpipe event.
1:35:32 > 1:35:35Her performance was good enough to see her qualify for the finals.
1:35:35 > 1:35:37Unfortunately, the other Brit in that competition,
1:35:37 > 1:35:38Molly Summerhayes, missed out.
1:35:38 > 1:35:40There was huge disappointment too for Aimee Fuller
1:35:40 > 1:35:41in the snowboarding big air event.
1:35:41 > 1:35:44This is making it's debut at this year's games but Fuller fell
1:35:44 > 1:35:46on both her attempts, including a big crash
1:35:46 > 1:35:53in in her second jump so her Olympics is over.
1:35:53 > 1:35:55Coming up just after 11am - GB women's curling
1:35:55 > 1:35:57team face Switzerland.
1:35:57 > 1:35:59And from 11:15, Brad Hall pilots the GB men's bobsleigh
1:35:59 > 1:36:08in the two-man event.
1:36:08 > 1:36:13KFC has closed a number of outlets across the UK. This story is
1:36:13 > 1:36:16currently the most read story on the BBC news site, our correspondent
1:36:16 > 1:36:21Jonty Bloom is here. Why? KFC, Kentucky fried chicken, has run out
1:36:21 > 1:36:34of chicken. No! Has it?! They changed their delivery company last
1:36:34 > 1:36:37week to DHL, and the chicken has not been arriving in the right numbers
1:36:37 > 1:36:41on the right places so they have closed stores in London, the
1:36:41 > 1:36:45Southeast, Wales, the Midlands. They have neither good and -- 900 stores
1:36:45 > 1:36:48and have not said how many have been affected but social media has been
1:36:48 > 1:36:52going mad because people have been turning up to give to find out there
1:36:52 > 1:36:54isn't any. They are not saying how many but
1:36:54 > 1:36:57have they said when the chicken will be arriving?!
1:36:57 > 1:37:08They say they are
1:37:15 > 1:37:18working it. This became known when they put out a tweet which basically
1:37:18 > 1:37:20said the chicken crossed the road, just not to our restaurants, which
1:37:20 > 1:37:23is a nice, phone line on it, but they say they brought in a new
1:37:23 > 1:37:25delivery partner, some teething problems getting fresh chicken to
1:37:25 > 1:37:27900 rest rooms across the country, they will not comprise of quality so
1:37:27 > 1:37:30some wrestlers are closed and others have a limited menu or shortened
1:37:30 > 1:37:32hours. Veron off, so you will update is no
1:37:32 > 1:37:34doubt when the chicken arrives? The second it is in the shop!
1:37:34 > 1:37:36Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri has dominated
1:37:36 > 1:37:46the BAFTA film awards, winning five trophies.
1:37:53 > 1:37:55The drama about a woman's struggle to get justice for her murdered
1:37:55 > 1:37:58daughter was named Best Film, while its star, Frances
1:37:58 > 1:37:59McDormand won Best Actress.
1:37:59 > 1:38:00The campaign to tackle sexual harassment featured
1:38:00 > 1:38:02strongly at the event, with most actresses
1:38:02 > 1:38:03dressed in black.
1:38:03 > 1:38:05And the first BAFTA of the evening goes to three Billboards Outside
1:38:05 > 1:38:07Ebbing, Missouri.
1:38:12 > 1:38:15As Martin said, I have a little trouble with compliance, but I want
1:38:15 > 1:38:19you to know I stand in full solidarity with my sisters denied in
1:38:19 > 1:38:26black.The winner is... Frances McDormand! No, just kidding! The
1:38:26 > 1:38:33BAFTA goes to Gary Oldman.I thank you, Sir Winston, I thank you, the
1:38:33 > 1:38:44Churchill family, and, of course, once again, BAFTA.Alison Janney, I,
1:38:44 > 1:38:51Tonya.I want to clear up a life that I have perpetrated for the last
1:38:51 > 1:38:55few years... I did not graduate from the Royal Academy for dramatic arts,
1:38:55 > 1:39:02but I did attend a two-week summer programme!The BAFTA goes to... The
1:39:02 > 1:39:10Shape Of Water, Guillermo Del Toro. Thank you, BAFTA, for all of the
1:39:10 > 1:39:20support.
1:39:24 > 1:39:29So thank you to all of you. It feels like a quirk of nature that I am
1:39:29 > 1:39:36standing here tonight, so thank you. Mum, you are the reason why I
1:39:36 > 1:39:40started, you're the reason why I'm here, you are the reason why I keep
1:39:40 > 1:39:46going, do you understand? Thank you for everything.Please welcome to
1:39:46 > 1:39:54the stage, Sir Ridley Scott.I shall find a very special place for it. By
1:39:54 > 1:40:02the way, I'm available in autumn 2018.
1:40:02 > 1:40:06Let's talk to Phyll Opoku-Gyimah, an activist and co-founder of UK
1:40:06 > 1:40:09Black Pride, who walked down the red carpet with actor
1:40:09 > 1:40:16Andrea Riseborough.
1:40:16 > 1:40:19Sorcha Bacon is here, who was up for her first
1:40:19 > 1:40:21award as a female producer.
1:40:21 > 1:40:25And actor and film maker Kate Hardie who has signed the letter.
1:40:25 > 1:40:29Thank you very much for coming on the programme. First of all, was it
1:40:29 > 1:40:37a good night?Was it a late one?! Yes!You have lost your boys! Phyll,
1:40:37 > 1:40:40you are co-founder of UK black pride, what did you want to
1:40:40 > 1:40:45highlight as you were walking down the red carpet last night?The main
1:40:45 > 1:40:51thing for me was just ensuring that women of all different
1:40:51 > 1:40:57intersections, whether we are black, Asian, Brown, disabled women,
1:40:57 > 1:41:04working-class women, are able to use that platform to raise awareness of
1:41:04 > 1:41:09the Time's Up campaign.Sorry to interrupt but that is a criticism
1:41:09 > 1:41:13that it is all very well for those in the entertainment industry with
1:41:13 > 1:41:17the privilege that it obviously encompasses, compared to a lot of
1:41:17 > 1:41:23women who don't have a lot of voice, would you accept that criticism?
1:41:23 > 1:41:26Totally but I would say there are lots of women on set and working in
1:41:26 > 1:41:29the film industry you don't have much privilege. If you look at the
1:41:29 > 1:41:35one woman in a camera team or the new female runner, there is a lot of
1:41:35 > 1:41:38quite voiceless women within the industry, and I also think what is
1:41:38 > 1:41:41brilliant about Time's Up is it is reaching out beyond just our
1:41:41 > 1:41:45industry.Which is the point for you, it is every woman, whatever
1:41:45 > 1:41:52sex, whatever you do?Absolutely, women like myself have not
1:41:52 > 1:41:56historically been able to access platforms like the BAFTAs, you want
1:41:56 > 1:41:59to use the opportunity to amplify your voice as much as possible
1:41:59 > 1:42:04whilst celebrating the greatness of women who have been acting or are in
1:42:04 > 1:42:11the industry. It is time to raise the volume on society.You are
1:42:11 > 1:42:14pretty new to the industry, it is fair to say? You have been in the
1:42:14 > 1:42:21industry for 35 years?Yes! Something to be proud of! But does
1:42:21 > 1:42:29this feel like a watershed, what would you say?For me, I feel I am
1:42:29 > 1:42:34at a point where my voice as a female producer can be part of the
1:42:34 > 1:42:37facilitation of pushing voices that are imported into film and making
1:42:37 > 1:42:41sure I have a responsibility in the work that I make to make those films
1:42:41 > 1:42:44that I think are important and push them to the forefront of what I am
1:42:44 > 1:42:48doing, rather than listening to the older voices. If you look at the
1:42:48 > 1:42:53BAFTAs last night and look at the films that have had more women,
1:42:53 > 1:42:56female directors that one, those are the younger the makers --
1:42:56 > 1:43:00film-makers, those of my generation, and I think I have an important role
1:43:00 > 1:43:03to play as a film-maker in pushing those stories.Do you think this is
1:43:03 > 1:43:09a tipping point?Yes, but it is more to do with... Content definitely
1:43:09 > 1:43:14needs to change, it is worse now than it was in 1913, gender
1:43:14 > 1:43:18representation and race is appalling in film still, said that has to
1:43:18 > 1:43:21shift, but I also think the idea of people being able to speak up
1:43:21 > 1:43:25because we are talking about abuses of power, really, and these are
1:43:25 > 1:43:32abuses of power, and the idea of people having a voice against powers
1:43:32 > 1:43:35that are silencing them, I think there is a tipping point but I
1:43:35 > 1:43:41really hope that that's now going to be listened to on set, at work, that
1:43:41 > 1:43:45is the really... It is all very well, all wearing black is a
1:43:45 > 1:43:48brilliant visual image but if you are the one person on a set or on a
1:43:48 > 1:43:53job that has to say, I'm not happy with how this, how I'm being
1:43:53 > 1:43:57treated, it is still very, very scary.You have experienced sexual
1:43:57 > 1:44:00harassment, I think I am right in saying, according to what I have
1:44:00 > 1:44:09read about you, but did you call it out?I have... I don't talk about my
1:44:09 > 1:44:12own personal experiences because I often feel like it then gets
1:44:12 > 1:44:16sidetracked and you end up having to do interviews over and over again...
1:44:16 > 1:44:19I'm not asking you about any details, just whether you felt able
1:44:19 > 1:44:23to...No, I didn't. When I look back into my past, and I have thought
1:44:23 > 1:44:30about it and we were talking about it earlier, I think that
1:44:30 > 1:44:34representation of how our industry is regulated, it is regulated by
1:44:34 > 1:44:37reputations and you get warned quickly about, if you have a bad
1:44:37 > 1:44:41reputation you will not get hired, and so...And a bad reputation
1:44:41 > 1:44:49means...If you cause trouble, exactly, so our unions -- our union,
1:44:49 > 1:44:52equity, the minute you even go to equity there are people saying, you
1:44:52 > 1:44:56will be seen as a troublemaker now. When things happen to be, the things
1:44:56 > 1:45:01I was advised the most was, let it go. Leave it, let it go, because me
1:45:01 > 1:45:06having a reputation was the thing that... They didn't manage, I do
1:45:06 > 1:45:10have a reputation! But me having a reputation was the thing people were
1:45:10 > 1:45:14most concerned about and that is what has to change.What do you
1:45:14 > 1:45:20think about that as a trade unionist yourself?We have been campaigning
1:45:20 > 1:45:22against sexual determination, harassment, violence, sold for
1:45:22 > 1:45:25years, and trade unions are important in a campaign and fight
1:45:25 > 1:45:31for justice.But not if they are telling people, you won't get
1:45:31 > 1:45:36work...The union never said that, it is before you even go near a
1:45:36 > 1:45:41union you get that.Unions are very clear, speed up and speak out and we
1:45:41 > 1:45:46are there to support you in your fight for equality and justice. I
1:45:46 > 1:45:50think sometimes people are a bit wary of joining a trade union
1:45:50 > 1:45:54because of victimisation or feeling like they are going to be ostracised
1:45:54 > 1:45:58in the workplace. If you even think of women who are working 0-hours
1:45:58 > 1:46:05contract work, work which is quite precarious, they feel a little bit
1:46:05 > 1:46:08vulnerable in wanting to speak out so I think the trade unions' role is
1:46:08 > 1:46:12to make sure we get in there and organise, support, mobilise and
1:46:12 > 1:46:16actually provide women with a platform to be able to highlight
1:46:16 > 1:46:21what is happening in the workplace and negotiate with the employer
1:46:21 > 1:46:25about its policies and procedures and what we need to do to create a
1:46:25 > 1:46:30safe space for women working.In terms of the award, eight or nine
1:46:30 > 1:46:35went to women, the majority to men, 40, in total, two men, what do you
1:46:35 > 1:46:41take from that?I was even thinking yesterday that it would be really
1:46:41 > 1:46:46lovely in ten years' time for everything not to be divided up into
1:46:46 > 1:46:51gender, I would love if there was an actor award, but I don't think we
1:46:51 > 1:46:58are there yet. I don't know what to say.It is how it is. Do you like
1:46:58 > 1:47:03that idea?I don't like awards! LAUGHTER
1:47:03 > 1:47:10I think they are ridiculous.Let's imagine that they will continue.
1:47:10 > 1:47:15Forget the gender-based best actor, Best actress, just have one.You are
1:47:15 > 1:47:19asking the wrong person, I find comparing performances, comparing
1:47:19 > 1:47:24budgets, films, PR budgets, it is a fact that women's films don't get as
1:47:24 > 1:47:28much money to promote themselves, looking at films that have not been
1:47:28 > 1:47:31promoted, living in a society where money buys you promotion and
1:47:31 > 1:47:38attention, I find awards pretty dubious. Although I love standing on
1:47:38 > 1:47:43the red carpet, that was a better image than I have seen for a long
1:47:43 > 1:47:47time, so that was a tremendous image that we saw, the women taking along
1:47:47 > 1:47:55their guests.Thank you very much for coming on the programme.
1:47:55 > 1:47:58The court of the quotation for sport has begun proceedings against the
1:47:58 > 1:48:05Russian Olympic medallist, after he failed a doping test, a sample who
1:48:05 > 1:48:08provided tested positive for a banned substance, which the BBC
1:48:08 > 1:48:15understands to be meldonium. The athlete won a bronze medal at
1:48:15 > 1:48:21Pyeongchang in the midst double is hurling event. That -- mixed doubles
1:48:21 > 1:48:29curling event.It could be any member of any country, does not
1:48:29 > 1:48:38matter if it is Russia or not, could be anyone, really.-- Alexander
1:48:38 > 1:48:41Krushelnitskyif somebody has taken something illegal, there should be
1:48:41 > 1:48:46consequences but it is not affecting anybody here. We want to keep the
1:48:46 > 1:48:50sport clean, we are on the same side. We will play and keep it out
1:48:50 > 1:48:59of our minds.
1:48:59 > 1:49:04Our correspondent, Stephen McDonell, is in Seoul. What is the allegation
1:49:04 > 1:49:09here?The Court of Arbitration for Sport has officially launched the
1:49:09 > 1:49:12seedings against Alexander Krushelnitsky, this Russian athlete
1:49:12 > 1:49:21is accused of taking a banned substance, meldonium, and that this,
1:49:21 > 1:49:25if found to be guilty of taking the substance, not only stands to lose
1:49:25 > 1:49:31his bronze medal, which he has already won, but putting massive
1:49:31 > 1:49:34pressure on all Russian athletes here, you can imagine they were
1:49:34 > 1:49:37hoping that the Pyeongchang games was going to bring them in from the
1:49:37 > 1:49:44cold. Officials may not be scheduled there, Russians have had enough pain
1:49:44 > 1:49:50after the mass doping scandal in Sochi and they may decide that by
1:49:50 > 1:49:55the end of the games, they can be allowed to walk into the main
1:49:55 > 1:49:59stadium, for the closing ceremony, carrying the Russian flag. Well, the
1:49:59 > 1:50:04pressure on officials to allow that to happen now, would be enormous,
1:50:04 > 1:50:10this can only harm the chances of that is taking place, and a large
1:50:10 > 1:50:16dark cloud, whether Russian athletes like it or not, as being dragged
1:50:16 > 1:50:22across all Russian Olympians.Why would someone in curling take a
1:50:22 > 1:50:27performance enhancing drug, how would it help them?This is what
1:50:27 > 1:50:30everyone is asking, some Russian athletes are saying, they suggested
1:50:30 > 1:50:35is not true, they say they cannot believe it, not only is curling not
1:50:35 > 1:50:38that stressful, why would you take the drugs, why would you take them
1:50:38 > 1:50:43so close to the games, but also, you know, we have all been through so
1:50:43 > 1:50:49much, you knew the risks in this sort of thing, why do it? If he is
1:50:49 > 1:50:53found to have done it, it is because, curling is more strenuous
1:50:53 > 1:50:58and stressful than people expect, requires a lot of concentration, and
1:50:58 > 1:51:05meldonium could help you to focus, to be less jittery, and to be at the
1:51:05 > 1:51:09top of your performance, this may be what you need to potentially get a
1:51:09 > 1:51:16medal, that is what he is accused to have done. I should suggest, still
1:51:16 > 1:51:23an accusation, just an accusation at this stage, yet to be found guilty.
1:51:23 > 1:51:25Thank you.
1:51:25 > 1:51:30A woman has been arrested after an abusive note was left on an
1:51:30 > 1:51:34ambulance dealing with a 999 call. Remind us what this note said, it
1:51:34 > 1:51:40was on social media. After the paramedics posted a picture of it.
1:51:40 > 1:51:47Over the weekend, this was posted on Twitter, she copied in the police,
1:51:47 > 1:51:50because the person who had parked the ambulance, in the ambulance, had
1:51:50 > 1:51:54been very upset, the note, the ambulance was parked in a
1:51:54 > 1:51:58residential street, Stoke-on-Trent. If this is for anyone but number 14,
1:51:58 > 1:52:04you have no right to be parked here, I could not give a dam if the whole
1:52:04 > 1:52:12street collapsed. Move your van from outside my house will stop the crew
1:52:12 > 1:52:17was verbally abused and they say that they were intimidated, and this
1:52:17 > 1:52:21paramedic used Twitter to draw attention to this and also copy in
1:52:21 > 1:52:25the police and now a 26-year-old woman has been arrested for public
1:52:25 > 1:52:31order offences. Police say that emergency services must be able to
1:52:31 > 1:52:35carry out their roles without fear of abuse or intimidation.
1:52:38 > 1:52:41It's against the law to treat someone unfairly because they're
1:52:41 > 1:52:44pregnant or have recently given birth and yet we know that many
1:52:44 > 1:52:46women experience discrimination at work for being pregnant
1:52:46 > 1:52:47and having children.
1:52:47 > 1:52:49The Equality and Human Rights Commission has accused Britain
1:52:49 > 1:52:52of still being in the dark ages when it comes to mothers'
1:52:52 > 1:52:53rights at work.
1:52:53 > 1:52:55It's carried out new research which suggests that the majority
1:52:55 > 1:52:57of employers think women should have to disclose if they're
1:52:57 > 1:53:01pregnant at a job interview, while a third think it's okay to ask
1:53:01 > 1:53:10women about their plans for children.
1:53:10 > 1:53:18Sarah Reeswas made redundant while on maternity leave.
1:53:18 > 1:53:20AndSue Coeis head of employment at the Equality
1:53:20 > 1:53:25and Human Rights Commission, which carried out this research.
1:53:25 > 1:53:29I am going to start with you, if I can get more information about this
1:53:29 > 1:53:35very interesting survey, or what did you learn about employers attitudes?
1:53:35 > 1:53:40What we learned was unfortunately, many of them are decades behind the
1:53:40 > 1:53:46law. They don't appear to be engaging with the basic employment
1:53:46 > 1:53:53rights of women. That figure, that half of employers think is perfectly
1:53:53 > 1:53:58reasonable to ask women in an interview whether they have young
1:53:58 > 1:54:02children, and a third go even further, and think that it is
1:54:02 > 1:54:07reasonable to ask women whether they may have children in the future.
1:54:07 > 1:54:13What we want employers to do is to plant a flag in the ground and say,
1:54:13 > 1:54:18we want to stop this, and we at the equality and human rights commission
1:54:18 > 1:54:24wants to support employers to change and improve and we are inviting them
1:54:24 > 1:54:29to join our initiatives, working forward, to get support, tips and
1:54:29 > 1:54:34advice from us and from there appears to up their game on there.
1:54:34 > 1:54:41What does the law say?The law is very clear, it has been for decades,
1:54:41 > 1:54:46you cannot make recruitment decisions, turning down people
1:54:46 > 1:54:51because they are women, because they are pregnant, or because even they
1:54:51 > 1:54:57might become pregnant in the future. You work for a women's organisation,
1:54:57 > 1:55:01we cannot say the name of the organisation, when you were made
1:55:01 > 1:55:08redundant while on maternity leave. Astonishing. When you were pregnant,
1:55:08 > 1:55:10presumably you felt really pregnant telling them you had a baby on the
1:55:10 > 1:55:14way and this is what you are going to do.Totally, beforehand, could
1:55:14 > 1:55:18not have treated me better, gave me time to have appointments, a lovely
1:55:18 > 1:55:22sendoff, it was afterwards that the situation got into a difficult
1:55:22 > 1:55:30position.What change when you were on maternity leave?A huge lack of
1:55:30 > 1:55:33communication, I try to get in contact with them, e-mail colleagues
1:55:33 > 1:55:39and bass to say I wanted to come back, I had no response.Potentially
1:55:39 > 1:55:43there may have been thinking, you are on maternity leave, let's not
1:55:43 > 1:55:47bother her. That concentrate on the baby.It was me that got in touch
1:55:47 > 1:55:52with them, saying I wanted to come back. They should have had the
1:55:52 > 1:55:58decency to reply to me.What happened in the end?A trustee got
1:55:58 > 1:56:01in touch and said, they are talking about your redundancy in meetings
1:56:01 > 1:56:07full. I am clear that you do not know what is happening. I had a
1:56:07 > 1:56:14letter in the post if you days later. At my post was redundant.How
1:56:14 > 1:56:19did you react?I was really sad and upset and as a new mother I was
1:56:19 > 1:56:22stressed enough, to have that happen on top, really does dent your
1:56:22 > 1:56:27confidence, I had gone from supporting women in building
1:56:27 > 1:56:32confidence, part of what my job was, to feeling I could not leave the
1:56:32 > 1:56:34house without crying.Did they start to come up with things that they had
1:56:34 > 1:56:39done wrong, when you were working? Yes, I raised a grievance against
1:56:39 > 1:56:43the way I was treated, it was tit-for-tat, they came up with
1:56:43 > 1:56:48things I had done wrong, in my eyes, I had not done anything wrong, I had
1:56:48 > 1:56:51gone on maternity leave and the reason they were trying to raise
1:56:51 > 1:56:55points was I had raised something against them.Were you allowed to
1:56:55 > 1:57:00attend the grievance hearing?No, it was held in London, I was in
1:57:00 > 1:57:04Cardiff, I was breast-feeding my new daughter, 12 weeks old, and they
1:57:04 > 1:57:07said they could not afford to have someone come along with me to go to
1:57:07 > 1:57:13the meeting.So you joined the meeting on the phone, I could hear
1:57:13 > 1:57:15my daughter crying so I could not concentrate.
1:57:18 > 1:57:22How do you reflect on the way they treated you and what, what could you
1:57:22 > 1:57:28have done in terms of pursuing the way they treated you?At the time I
1:57:28 > 1:57:32was not able to raise a case through law because I did not have the money
1:57:32 > 1:57:37to do that, it is good that women are able to go to tribunal and not
1:57:37 > 1:57:43have to pay for it themselves. But it was a situation I did not want to
1:57:43 > 1:57:47be in, I did not want to raise an issue against them, I wanted to
1:57:47 > 1:57:51concentrate on the positive things of raising a child, being a mother.
1:57:51 > 1:57:56Why did they get rid of you?I was difficult, a situation they did not
1:57:56 > 1:58:00want to deal with, much easier to have me out of that situation so
1:58:00 > 1:58:04they could then recruit people into posts that did not have to deal with
1:58:04 > 1:58:09things like children in the background.Thank you very much.
1:58:09 > 1:58:13Thank you for talking to us. Thank you for joining us.
1:58:17 > 1:58:21We are back tomorrow, 9am. Have a good day, thank you very much.