28/02/2018

0:00:07 > 0:00:09Hello, it's Wednesday 28th February, it's 9 o'clock,

0:00:09 > 0:00:17I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

0:00:18 > 0:00:23Amber warnings for snow are in place for large part of the country.

0:00:23 > 0:00:30Drivers have been one to take care, hundreds of schools are closed and

0:00:30 > 0:00:33public transport is widely affected.

0:00:33 > 0:00:35With more snow overnight and temperatures falling as low

0:00:35 > 0:00:37as minus 12, some councils have brought in emergency measures

0:00:37 > 0:00:40to offer immediate accommodation to people sleeping on the streets.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42We'll be talking to one rough sleeper and two people

0:00:42 > 0:00:45who have a roof over their heads but can't afford heating.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47A key document detailing the proposed terms of the UK's

0:00:47 > 0:00:49departure from the EU has just been published.

0:00:49 > 0:00:52It says Northern Ireland will have to follow the rules of the EU's

0:00:52 > 0:00:55single market if no one can come up with a plan to avoid

0:00:55 > 0:00:58a so-called hard border with barriers and checks.

0:00:58 > 0:00:59We are absolutely clear there will be no hard border

0:00:59 > 0:01:00in Northern Ireland.

0:01:00 > 0:01:04It's really important we don't go back to the borders of the past,

0:01:04 > 0:01:06and that is why we are seeking special arrangements

0:01:06 > 0:01:07with the European Union.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09And we'll talk exclusively to the top police officer tasked

0:01:09 > 0:01:14with catching Britain's paedophiles.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18It comes as a charity set up to help victims of child abuse says it saw

0:01:18 > 0:01:22a huge increase in contacts to its helpline and website

0:01:22 > 0:01:24after footballer Andy Woodward appeared on our programme talking

0:01:24 > 0:01:32about the abuse he was subjected to by paedophile coach Barry Bennell.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

0:01:42 > 0:01:48After 10, we'll talk about Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

0:01:48 > 0:01:53The ADHD Foundation has told our programme they're writing

0:01:53 > 0:01:56to the government to demand earlier diagnosis for children.

0:01:56 > 0:02:00They say delays mean too many children end up

0:02:00 > 0:02:04being excluded from school.

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0:02:18 > 0:02:23If you have ADHD or you have a child with ADHD, letter snow, your

0:02:23 > 0:02:25experiences.

0:02:25 > 0:02:27The European Union has, in the past hour, published a draft

0:02:27 > 0:02:30of its Brexit withdrawal agreement for the first time, detailing

0:02:30 > 0:02:35the terms of the UK's departure.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37It is expected to say that Northern Ireland

0:02:37 > 0:02:40will have to follow the rules of the single market,

0:02:40 > 0:02:42if other solutions can't be found,

0:02:42 > 0:02:44to avoid a so-called hard border with barriers and checks.

0:02:44 > 0:02:45Downing Street has dismissed any prospect

0:02:45 > 0:02:50of a return to a hard border.

0:02:50 > 0:02:56Let's talk to Norman at Westminster. Is this border issue the big issue

0:02:56 > 0:03:00or are there a number that are going to come out of this document?This

0:03:00 > 0:03:05is the big Brexit bust up. This is the first we have had where both

0:03:05 > 0:03:11sides seem to have dug in, and we could be facing a real showdown. You

0:03:11 > 0:03:19just listen to the language around it this morning, with

0:03:20 > 0:03:21it this morning, with Brexiteers accusing the European Commission of

0:03:21 > 0:03:28trying to annex in Northern Ireland, a former EU trade commissioner

0:03:28 > 0:03:31saying the UK is heading towards a cliff edge of Northern Ireland. What

0:03:31 > 0:03:35is going on? When we were in the EU and the Customs market, there wasn't

0:03:35 > 0:03:38a problem because they did not have to be a border between Northern

0:03:38 > 0:03:42Ireland and the Republic of Ireland because we were all in the EU

0:03:42 > 0:03:47together. However, when we leave, the question is, how do you avoid a

0:03:47 > 0:03:52border? The answer we get from the EU today is that Northern Ireland

0:03:52 > 0:03:58would remain in the EU's Customs union. So it would still abide by

0:03:58 > 0:04:03many of the rules and regulations of the EU when it came to trade and

0:04:03 > 0:04:06therefore there wouldn't be any need for border. But Downing Street say

0:04:06 > 0:04:14this is competing unacceptable because it would threaten the

0:04:14 > 0:04:18territorial integrity of the UK, it would be almost moving Northern

0:04:18 > 0:04:27Ireland away from the UK and closer to the EU. Mrs May is dependent, has

0:04:27 > 0:04:32government is reliant on the support of the DUP who are adamantly opposed

0:04:32 > 0:04:37to the idea of moving away from the UK and closer to the EU. We have a

0:04:37 > 0:04:39fundamental clash looming over this issue of the Northern Ireland

0:04:39 > 0:04:47border. It's very hard to see how you can mesh the two sides together.

0:04:47 > 0:04:51This could really be a key sticking point in the Brexit process.Thank

0:04:51 > 0:04:56you, Norman. We will talk more about this in the next hour of the

0:04:56 > 0:05:02programme. Let's bring you the rest of the news.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06It's another morning of freezing conditions after temperatures

0:05:06 > 0:05:08fell to -12 in some areas overnight.

0:05:08 > 0:05:10The cold weather has already caused major disruption,

0:05:10 > 0:05:12but forecasters say the worst is yet to come, with warnings

0:05:12 > 0:05:14in place until the weekend.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17Here's our correspondent Jon Donnison.

0:05:17 > 0:05:21The so-called "beast from the east" has already left much of Britain

0:05:21 > 0:05:26under a blanket of snow.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29This is Kent, which has received some of the worst

0:05:29 > 0:05:30of the weather so far.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33On the ground it has been a much less pretty picture for drivers,

0:05:33 > 0:05:37with the police reporting scores of accidents across the country.

0:05:37 > 0:05:42Today again conditions on the roads are expected to be treacherous.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46Weather warnings for ice and snow are in place for much of the UK.

0:05:46 > 0:05:50They are expected to remain until the weekend.

0:05:50 > 0:05:57Yorkshire and the North East have seen some of the heaviest snowfall.

0:05:58 > 0:06:02With more expected today, many schools are likely to stay closed.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04When I was younger the snow was thicker and we still

0:06:04 > 0:06:06managed to get to school.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09I think it is the teachers who can't get in.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12That is the problem in this area because of the outlying villages

0:06:12 > 0:06:15that the teachers come from.

0:06:15 > 0:06:20For Britain's homeless, this is in central London,

0:06:20 > 0:06:24it was another tough night, temperatures down to -10

0:06:24 > 0:06:26in some parts and feeling much colder in the wind.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29The elderly too are vulnerable.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33In Hull extra staff at meals on wheels services are being brought

0:06:33 > 0:06:34in to deliver hot food.

0:06:34 > 0:06:39I can't get out to get meals and things.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41So it's just wonderful.

0:06:41 > 0:06:43The only complaint I have got is they never bring

0:06:43 > 0:06:47you a drop of brandy!

0:06:47 > 0:06:50And over the next few days that might be needed.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53Forecasters say they expect no letup in the freezing weather

0:06:53 > 0:06:54until at least the weekend.

0:06:54 > 0:07:00Jon Donnison, BBC News.

0:07:00 > 0:07:06Let's get the latest from our correspondents out and about now.

0:07:06 > 0:07:12Let's go to Glasgow and the North Yorks Moors. How bad is it in

0:07:12 > 0:07:16Glasgow?It is pretty awful although it doesn't look it was the beautiful

0:07:16 > 0:07:21blue sky. We're getting a bit of respite. Glasgow has more or less

0:07:21 > 0:07:24ground to hold this morning, there's been problem on the motorways, the M

0:07:24 > 0:07:2974, the Route between Scotland and England, there's almost been white

0:07:29 > 0:07:34out conditions on that. This is the picture across most of the country

0:07:34 > 0:07:37today. Glasgow airport has suspended its operations while they try and

0:07:37 > 0:07:44clear the runway, they hope the run will be open soon. Train services

0:07:44 > 0:07:49have been affected and the advice from the government is don't travel

0:07:49 > 0:07:53unless you really have two unless you are in an amber warning area. --

0:07:53 > 0:07:58if you are in an amber warning area. We can vouch for that, the roads are

0:07:58 > 0:08:04very slippery this morning. The winners if you want to look at it

0:08:04 > 0:08:10that way are tens of thousands of schoolchildren who have got an

0:08:10 > 0:08:17unexpected day off as all councils in southern and central counters,

0:08:17 > 0:08:23most councils, sorry, have closed their schools. Check the BBC website

0:08:23 > 0:08:26if you need information. The weather is expected to take a turn for the

0:08:26 > 0:08:31worse. The amber warning is at its highest level which our forecasters

0:08:31 > 0:08:35say they have never seen before with snow and it could be on the cusp of

0:08:35 > 0:08:42becoming an red warning. My colleague is in North Yorkshire.

0:08:42 > 0:08:46Yes, good morning. Mrs Thornton le Dale on the edge of the North York

0:08:46 > 0:08:52Moors. -- this is Thornton le Dale. They have had six centimetres of

0:08:52 > 0:08:56snow, you can see how deep that freshly fallen snow is. The main

0:08:56 > 0:09:05route through the village has been gritted and ploughed but as quickly

0:09:05 > 0:09:09as they plough, they get more snow coming down. The bus is heading to

0:09:09 > 0:09:16Kirkbymoorside but the bust timetables are disrupted quite

0:09:16 > 0:09:19considerably at the moment due to the bad conditions. The wind chill

0:09:19 > 0:09:27in the village is about -12 at the moment, so it cuts in half. Hundreds

0:09:27 > 0:09:31of schools across Yorkshire is shut, the local village school here is

0:09:31 > 0:09:33closed today, conditions much worse than yesterday if you're heading

0:09:33 > 0:09:39out. Do take care, allow plenty of journey time. If you have a

0:09:39 > 0:09:42vulnerable neighbour, the idea is to maybe check on them to make sure

0:09:42 > 0:09:51they are K. -- OK. It is not just the UK experiencing

0:09:51 > 0:09:53freezing conditions, the so-called beast from the East has brought

0:09:53 > 0:09:59heavy snow across Europe. Record temperatures and snow for paralysed

0:09:59 > 0:10:04part of Croatia causing havoc on the roads and causing residents to

0:10:04 > 0:10:11evacuate several but villages. We can see the depth of the snowfall in

0:10:11 > 0:10:15Bosnia. In Bulgaria, villagers were left without electricity and schools

0:10:15 > 0:10:19were closed. Some of the ice used conditions were reported in Italy

0:10:19 > 0:10:24with Rome seeing snow for the first time in six years.

0:10:24 > 0:10:26Public satisfaction with GP services has fallen to the lowest

0:10:26 > 0:10:28levels ever recorded, according to a new survey.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31The findings from the British Social Attitudes survey

0:10:31 > 0:10:34show people in England, Scotland and Wales having concerns

0:10:34 > 0:10:39around a lack of funding and staff shortages.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43Here's our health correspondent Dominic Hughes.

0:10:43 > 0:10:47Each working day more than a million of us will access the NHS

0:10:47 > 0:10:48through our local GP.

0:10:48 > 0:10:50In previous surveys of public attitudes to the health service

0:10:50 > 0:10:53they have been the most highly rated, but the most recent

0:10:53 > 0:10:56poll shows a significant fall in satisfaction,

0:10:56 > 0:11:00mirroring the overall picture of the NHS.

0:11:00 > 0:11:06The annual survey shows overall satisfaction at 57% is down by 6%,

0:11:06 > 0:11:09the lowest since 2011.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12GP services, normally top of the poll, fell by 7% to 65%,

0:11:12 > 0:11:18the lowest since the survey began in 1983.

0:11:18 > 0:11:23Staff shortages and a lack of funding were two

0:11:23 > 0:11:26of the main reasons people say for being dissatisfied.

0:11:26 > 0:11:28We know people are increasingly dissatisfied with their access

0:11:28 > 0:11:33to getting GP appointments and so on, so there is

0:11:33 > 0:11:34something to be done.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37It is not just about money to fix the problems,

0:11:37 > 0:11:41but these are the things the public notice and care about and it is

0:11:41 > 0:11:44something the government should also notice and care about.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47Overall satisfaction levels with the NHS are still higher

0:11:47 > 0:11:51than in the 1990s and the Department of Health and social care points out

0:11:51 > 0:11:56the majority of patients are satisfied with the NHS.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59But GPs say underinvestment and a shortage of doctors is now

0:12:00 > 0:12:06having an impact on their patients.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner,

0:12:09 > 0:12:13has had his security clearance at the White House downgraded.

0:12:13 > 0:12:17Having previously had a leading role in the administration,

0:12:17 > 0:12:21Mr Kushner now won't be able to view sensitive documents.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23There's speculation his previous business dealings may be the reason

0:12:23 > 0:12:26for his change of status.

0:12:26 > 0:12:30A BBC charity says it has sacked six people for sexual harassment

0:12:30 > 0:12:34or for watching pornography on work computers.

0:12:34 > 0:12:37BBC Media Action said the incidents happened overseas in the past ten

0:12:37 > 0:12:42years and those sacked were all foreign nationals.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44It comes as international charities face closer scrutiny

0:12:44 > 0:12:51following claims of sexual misconduct by Oxfam staff in Haiti.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53Two big high street names are on the brink of collapse

0:12:53 > 0:12:56with both Toys R Us and Maplin trying to find buyers.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00The struggling retailers, two of the UK's best known chains,

0:13:00 > 0:13:04are understood to have put administrators on stand-by after

0:13:04 > 0:13:06failing to secure a rescue deal.

0:13:06 > 0:13:10Toys R Us employs around 3,000 workers, whilst Maplin has

0:13:10 > 0:13:152,500 members of staff.

0:13:15 > 0:13:19The vast majority of cannabis seized by police has been found to be

0:13:19 > 0:13:22super-strength skunk, which is linked to a higher risk

0:13:22 > 0:13:25of psychotic mental health episodes.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28Researchers at King's College London say the increasing dominance of such

0:13:28 > 0:13:32high strength strains of the drug poses a significant risk

0:13:32 > 0:13:34to the mental health of users.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39In 2005 only half of cannabis confiscations related to skunk,

0:13:39 > 0:13:47but that rose to 94% by 2016.

0:13:50 > 0:13:52Spice Girl Mel B has revealed that the band have been invited

0:13:52 > 0:13:55to the wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57Appearing on a US talk show, she declined to comment

0:13:57 > 0:13:59on whether the group would be performing at the royal

0:13:59 > 0:14:00wedding in May.

0:14:00 > 0:14:05The news comes after reports that the five members of the group

0:14:05 > 0:14:07reunited recently for the first time since 2012.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:14:09 > 0:14:17More at 9:30.

0:14:18 > 0:14:23In a few moments, we will get an exclusive interview with the police

0:14:23 > 0:14:27officer in charge of catching the paedophiles of the UK. Ben Stokes

0:14:27 > 0:14:37really making his presence felt in the England cricket site?

0:14:37 > 0:14:42the England cricket site? He's had a lot of bad headlines recently.

0:14:42 > 0:14:43But...

0:14:43 > 0:14:45Another great display from Ben Stokes as he settles back

0:14:45 > 0:14:46into the England side.

0:14:46 > 0:14:49England have beaten New Zealand this morning by six wickets to level

0:14:49 > 0:14:51the one-day series at 1-1.

0:14:51 > 0:14:53The all-rounder was playing in his second match on his return

0:14:53 > 0:14:55after five months out, he was named man-of-the-match

0:14:55 > 0:14:58after hitting an unbeaten 63, taking two wickets and being involved

0:14:58 > 0:14:59in two run outs.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01England dismissed the hosts for 223 in Tauranga.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04England captain Eoin Morgan had a knock of 62.

0:15:04 > 0:15:06The third match of the best-of-five series starts

0:15:06 > 0:15:14on Saturday in Wellington.

0:15:14 > 0:15:16Undoubtably, I think this is the greatest thing to have happened so

0:15:16 > 0:15:21far today...

0:15:25 > 0:15:28Check out this, one of the sixes which sent England on their way

0:15:28 > 0:15:31to victory was brilliantly caught by a fan in the crowd.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34If you can catch the ball with one hand in the stands

0:15:34 > 0:15:36you win 25,000 pounds, that's exactly what this guy did

0:15:36 > 0:15:37and look a the celebration.

0:15:37 > 0:15:41He knocks his friend out of the way and tries to go for it, that man!I

0:15:41 > 0:15:45love it, I could watch that all day! But there was a football player who

0:15:45 > 0:15:50didn't let the blizzard interrupt his game?Yes, a couple of

0:15:50 > 0:15:52players...

0:15:52 > 0:15:56Almost a whole round of non-league games were wiped out in England last

0:15:56 > 0:15:58night because of the snow, with six games in the Scottish

0:15:58 > 0:16:01leagues also called off - but in League 1, Peterbrough Walsall

0:16:01 > 0:16:03went ahead despite these scenes at London Road -

0:16:03 > 0:16:05this is a video of the Peterborough players Steven Taylor

0:16:05 > 0:16:08and Junior Morias grabbing some brooms to help clear the lines

0:16:08 > 0:16:10as heavy snow fell during their 2-1 win.

0:16:10 > 0:16:15I think they were doing that because they were 2-1 up, I don't think if

0:16:15 > 0:16:20they were 2-1 down they would be working as hard! Peterborough got

0:16:20 > 0:16:25the 2-1 win. It looks more like a cross country course in the Winter

0:16:25 > 0:16:34Olympics rather than a football pitch!Know what chance do Rochdale

0:16:34 > 0:16:39have of knocking their opponents out of the FA Cup tonight, Tottenham?

0:16:39 > 0:16:40Slim!

0:16:40 > 0:16:42Tottenham are fourth in the Premier League

0:16:42 > 0:16:44unbeaten in 15 games, Rochdale are bottom of League 1.

0:16:44 > 0:16:4563 places between them.

0:16:45 > 0:16:48But what a expericnce this will be for Rochdale who have

0:16:48 > 0:16:50nothing to lose tonight, they will dare to dream.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52Rochdale manager Keith Hill says his team must act

0:16:52 > 0:16:55"like a Premier League side" in tonight's replay at Wembley.

0:16:55 > 0:16:58The League One side scored late on to draw 2-2 with Tottenham

0:16:58 > 0:16:59earlier this month.

0:16:59 > 0:17:05Steve Davies with the dramatic injury-time equaliser

0:17:05 > 0:17:06The winner of tonight's tie will play Swansea

0:17:06 > 0:17:09who are into the quarter finals of the FA Cup for the

0:17:09 > 0:17:11first time since 1964.

0:17:11 > 0:17:182-0 they beat Sheffield Wednesday in their fifth round replay last

0:17:18 > 0:17:21night, that's Nathan Dyer with the second as Swansea boss

0:17:21 > 0:17:23Caros Carvallyhal got one over the team who sacked him in December.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27-- Carlos Carvalhal.

0:17:27 > 0:17:31I'll be back with the headlines at 9.30

0:17:31 > 0:17:35Full

0:17:37 > 0:17:40First this morning, an interview with the police officer in charge

0:17:40 > 0:17:41of catching Britain's paedophiles.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43His name is Simon Bailey, he's the Chief

0:17:43 > 0:17:46Constable of Norfolk police and the National Police

0:17:46 > 0:17:47Chiefs Council lead on combating child abuse.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49He also heads up Operation Hydrant, the nationwide inquiry

0:17:49 > 0:17:51into historical child sexual abuse.

0:17:51 > 0:17:55It comes as a national child abuse helpline reveals there were more

0:17:55 > 0:17:58than 10,000 call attempts and 50% rise in visits to their website

0:17:58 > 0:18:01in the five weeks after footballer Andy Woodward

0:18:01 > 0:18:04appeared on our programme talking about the abuse he suffered

0:18:04 > 0:18:10at the hands of paedophile coach Barry Bennell.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12NAPAC, the National Association for People Abused in Childhood saw

0:18:12 > 0:18:16a surge in the number of people getting in touch in the five weeks

0:18:16 > 0:18:22between 16 November and 20 December 2016.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25We will speak to Chief Constable Bailey in a moment.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28First here's a reminder of how the football abuse scandal unfolded.

0:18:28 > 0:18:33The impact it's had on my life is just catastrophic and you live

0:18:33 > 0:18:37with that all your life.

0:18:37 > 0:18:43And I can't put into words what that has done to me.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50HE SIGHS.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53Both my parents have died and that hurts me.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56Yeah.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Not telling them.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00Does it?

0:19:00 > 0:19:03Yeah.

0:19:04 > 0:19:08I don't know that it's a good thing that I did or I didn't tell them

0:19:08 > 0:19:16because they would blame themselves.

0:19:18 > 0:19:26This has not been easy for me to do but I felt that I needed to do this

0:19:26 > 0:19:31so that other people will come out.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34I've lived a normal life, I've lived a normal life,

0:19:34 > 0:19:35as normal as I can.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38But when you've got something like that inside of you, it's

0:19:38 > 0:19:46something like that is going to stay with you until the day you die.

0:19:49 > 0:19:53What we've got to do is to make sure that those victims are supported.

0:19:53 > 0:19:55That this doesn't turn into an exercise where football

0:19:55 > 0:20:03tries to protect its own reputation.

0:20:10 > 0:20:11When you signed that confidentiality agreement,

0:20:11 > 0:20:14what were you thinking when they wanted you to keep quiet

0:20:14 > 0:20:16about it, about the abuse that you'd suffered?

0:20:16 > 0:20:23With the document, I was basically pushed into a corner.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49Let's talk to Chief Constable Simon Bailey, the lead officer

0:20:49 > 0:20:51for child protection at the National Police Chiefs Councils

0:20:51 > 0:20:54and the head of Operation Hydrant, the nationwide inquiry

0:20:54 > 0:20:56into historical child sexual abuse.

0:20:56 > 0:21:02If you have a question for him, send me an e-mail or message me on

0:21:02 > 0:21:06Twitter. Chief Constable Bailey, thank you for speaking to us. Last

0:21:06 > 0:21:07week we saw former

0:21:07 > 0:21:07thank you for speaking to us. Last week we saw former football coach

0:21:07 > 0:21:13Gary Benno sentenced to 31 years in jail for abusing boys in the 1970s,

0:21:13 > 0:21:1980s and 90s. How do you react to the outcome of that trial?I have

0:21:19 > 0:21:23obviously watched the trial with interest -- Barry Bennell. I have

0:21:23 > 0:21:26been engaged with a number of parties involved and I was of course

0:21:26 > 0:21:30very pleased to see the outcome and I think justice will be seen to have

0:21:30 > 0:21:35been served.As you are the lead on combating child sexual abuse, is it

0:21:35 > 0:21:40right that the police spend time and resources investigating allegations

0:21:40 > 0:21:45from 30 or years ago?

0:21:45 > 0:21:49I think you have seen in your programmes and in the football

0:21:49 > 0:21:54scandal in particular, the damage has been done and the fact is now

0:21:54 > 0:21:59Bennell is serving a long custodial sentence for the crimes he has

0:21:59 > 0:22:03committed. It will take time and we should investigate these allegations

0:22:03 > 0:22:08because age is no barrier to continuing to offend. I think it is

0:22:08 > 0:22:12important that the police service is able to demonstrate a commitment to

0:22:12 > 0:22:16taking allegations of this nature seriously. The victims have the

0:22:16 > 0:22:20confidence to come forward and report abuse. So that we can ensure

0:22:20 > 0:22:24that their abusers are no longer in a position of trust and are no

0:22:24 > 0:22:29longer able to carry on abusing.If a paedophile did it 30 years ago,

0:22:29 > 0:22:35they could still be doing it now, that is one of the justifications

0:22:35 > 0:22:38for investigating historical allegations?Absolutely, we still

0:22:38 > 0:22:45received reports where adult males, in particular, are still abusing

0:22:45 > 0:22:49into their 70s or 80s.Is there a danger to children in Britain from

0:22:49 > 0:22:56sexual abuse, is that danger growing now?Unfortunately I think it is, if

0:22:56 > 0:23:03you look at the increasing number of reports and crimes we are recording,

0:23:03 > 0:23:06I am certain that victim confidence is having a lot to do with that

0:23:06 > 0:23:09increase but I cannot help but think that volumes of levels of abuse are

0:23:09 > 0:23:13increasing and I think so much of this is being driven by the World

0:23:13 > 0:23:17Wide Web. If you look at the action that law enforcement is taking place

0:23:17 > 0:23:23across the country, targeting those people who are viewing it indecent

0:23:23 > 0:23:32images of children, we are arresting 430 men every month. We are

0:23:32 > 0:23:35safeguarding 700 children every month, that is just from offenders

0:23:35 > 0:23:38viewing images. That is not from the tens of thousands of men

0:23:38 > 0:23:43predominantly going online to groom children, so that they provide them

0:23:43 > 0:23:52with a sexualise image, or groom them to then rape them.

0:23:52 > 0:23:56Unfortunately I think we have to look at it from a societal

0:23:56 > 0:24:00perspective and we now have two consider that unfortunately there

0:24:00 > 0:24:03are no more opportunities to abuse and abuse could well be on the

0:24:03 > 0:24:08increase.How many potential child abusers do you think there are in

0:24:08 > 0:24:13Britain?I think that is very difficult to put in and on.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16Potentially it could be unhelpful. Sorry to interrupt, you have just

0:24:16 > 0:24:21said that you are arresting 438 men every month, and that is just for

0:24:21 > 0:24:26viewing indecent images.That is correct, I think we have to accept

0:24:26 > 0:24:31that there are tens of thousands that the most important thing from

0:24:31 > 0:24:34my perspective is that unfortunately, the focus has been

0:24:34 > 0:24:38upon the police service and what I believe has been a very strong

0:24:38 > 0:24:42response to the threat. But ultimately, Victoria, every time we

0:24:42 > 0:24:44make an arrest, the damage has already been done and we have to

0:24:44 > 0:24:50start looking at how we prevent the abuse in the first place. For me,

0:24:50 > 0:24:54that is around ensuring that parents are confident around speaking to

0:24:54 > 0:25:00their children about the risks of technology and also the threat that

0:25:00 > 0:25:05exists within that familial circle and for children to have a

0:25:05 > 0:25:09resilience and confidence to report any concerns. The importance of

0:25:09 > 0:25:13reinforcing the message within schools and the importance of PSA

0:25:13 > 0:25:20chief education and awareness and, from a technical perspective, we

0:25:20 > 0:25:27have to start putting pressure on companies that provide networks,

0:25:27 > 0:25:31infrastructure and platforms that allow people to perpetrate abuse --

0:25:31 > 0:25:35PSHE education.I will ask about technology in a moment but can you

0:25:35 > 0:25:37confirm potentially there are tens of thousands of paedophiles in

0:25:37 > 0:25:46Britain. Is that 20,000, 30,000?I think 20,000 is probably a

0:25:46 > 0:25:50conservative estimate.So what, double that?I'm not sure that

0:25:50 > 0:25:56trying to put a figure on it and gain a headline is helpful.I'm

0:25:56 > 0:26:00actually just trying to understand the scale of it in this country.The

0:26:00 > 0:26:05scale of it is huge. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind

0:26:05 > 0:26:08whatsoever. I think it is one of the greatest threats we currently face

0:26:08 > 0:26:14from a policing perspective. You only have to look at the activity

0:26:14 > 0:26:17taking place across the country every single day, dealing with

0:26:17 > 0:26:22reports of non-recent abuse, dealing with reports of familial abuse,

0:26:22 > 0:26:27which is still by far the greatest volume of abuse that we take that

0:26:27 > 0:26:32then looking at how we meet the challenges of abuse that is being

0:26:32 > 0:26:36perpetrated through digital technology. And the increasing

0:26:36 > 0:26:44volumes that we had to deal with than the chain -- changing volume of

0:26:44 > 0:26:47that. Now we are dealing with an emerging threat where live streaming

0:26:47 > 0:26:51platforms are affording men and on occasions women the opportunity to

0:26:51 > 0:26:57seek to groom children.And what should the social media companies,

0:26:57 > 0:27:02Internet companies, do about that? You've made it clear in this

0:27:02 > 0:27:04interview and I have seen your tweets where you have said other

0:27:04 > 0:27:08stakeholders, as you politely put it, need to match the kind of

0:27:08 > 0:27:14commitment your officers are making? And I genuinely believe the

0:27:14 > 0:27:18technology exists through artificial intelligence and algorithms that are

0:27:18 > 0:27:22already there, that we can make uploading of indecent images really

0:27:22 > 0:27:26difficult and we can take indecent images down. But the greatest threat

0:27:26 > 0:27:31that I am now seeing is the chat rooms, live streaming applications

0:27:31 > 0:27:35that are now being used by paedophiles to exploit children, and

0:27:35 > 0:27:39those companies that are providing those networks, that infrastructure,

0:27:39 > 0:27:45I believe they should be policing it. I think it is unrealistic, it is

0:27:45 > 0:27:49impossible, for the police service to be able to do that as well.

0:27:49 > 0:27:53Recognising all of the challenges that we currently face.The work

0:27:53 > 0:27:57that you face is overwhelming because you are at saturation point?

0:27:57 > 0:28:01We are having to deal with unprecedented volumes of reports and

0:28:01 > 0:28:11if we just look back at October 2016, where did the football scandal

0:28:11 > 0:28:15come from? Andrew Woodward had the courage to come forward. Look at the

0:28:15 > 0:28:18volumes of reports that have come forward as a result. Look at the

0:28:18 > 0:28:24demand that was placed upon a number of police forces. Are they going to

0:28:24 > 0:28:27be further incidents or reports like this? I cannot rule it out. If you

0:28:27 > 0:28:32look at the number of reports that Operation Hydrant receives on a

0:28:32 > 0:28:37monthly basis, those numbers are still in the region of 120, 125

0:28:37 > 0:28:42reports every month. We are getting a really good understanding of where

0:28:42 > 0:28:46non-recent abuse has been perpetrated. It is predominantly in

0:28:46 > 0:28:51schools and within care settings. But that is just one of the volumes

0:28:51 > 0:28:54of reports that we are having to deal with. As we said, familial

0:28:54 > 0:28:58abuse takes place within the home environment or the immediate home

0:28:58 > 0:29:01environment. That still accounts for the greatest amount of abuse. But

0:29:01 > 0:29:06there is no doubt in my mind that technology is now affording people

0:29:06 > 0:29:09that have a sexual interest in children an opportunity to abuse in

0:29:09 > 0:29:16a way that they were never, ever able to previously.I would like to

0:29:16 > 0:29:20ask you about self-styled Paedophile Hunters, normally parents, who set

0:29:20 > 0:29:26out to catch people who may be grooming children and arranging to

0:29:26 > 0:29:31meet what they think our children or teenagers but turn out to be the

0:29:31 > 0:29:36so-called Paedophile Hunters, are they doing the right thing?I have

0:29:36 > 0:29:39said on numerous occasions that I do not think they are doing the right

0:29:39 > 0:29:44thing. They are taking unnecessary risks, they are putting children's

0:29:44 > 0:29:47lives at risk. They are putting the lives of innocent people at risk.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51This is not something that should be tackled by people who are not

0:29:51 > 0:30:01professional or trained, and have undertaken the correct risk

0:30:01 > 0:30:04assessments. This should be left to the police and members of the public

0:30:04 > 0:30:09have concerns that an individual may be seeking to groom a child, or

0:30:09 > 0:30:13sexually abuse a child, they should report their concerns to us so that

0:30:13 > 0:30:18we can act upon those concerns.

0:30:18 > 0:30:22I want to ask you finally how you go about investigating crimes from so

0:30:22 > 0:30:28long ago, if you can give an insight, there are no forensics, you

0:30:28 > 0:30:31cannot do house-to-house enquiries, so how do you go about making those

0:30:31 > 0:30:36investigations and building a case? The most important thing is we

0:30:36 > 0:30:41thoroughly investigate and research and listened with great care and

0:30:41 > 0:30:44consideration to the victims that are coming forward, and through that

0:30:44 > 0:30:51process, we gain their confidence. And they're able to demonstrate that

0:30:51 > 0:30:56confidence to disclose more and more and that will point us in the

0:30:56 > 0:31:01direction of other victims. You then develop a rich picture where people

0:31:01 > 0:31:05are able to recall certain times and places where certain people were

0:31:05 > 0:31:12there. And Andrew Woodward was the catalyst, and your programme shone a

0:31:12 > 0:31:18light on this. Some anime or victims then had the -- so many more victims

0:31:18 > 0:31:22then had the confidence to come forward. So much of our work on

0:31:22 > 0:31:26non-recent investigations is around the skills and ability of incredibly

0:31:26 > 0:31:30talented and dedicated police officers spending time getting the

0:31:30 > 0:31:34confidence of victims and survivors who are then able to create that

0:31:34 > 0:31:40rich picture where they demonstrate a system of abuse, a particular

0:31:40 > 0:31:47style of abuse. And they are able to present to the courts really

0:31:47 > 0:31:51compelling cases.Thank you very much for coming on the programme, we

0:31:51 > 0:31:57appreciate your time, thank you. Chief comes the Simon Bailey, the

0:31:57 > 0:32:04police officer, -- Constable Simon Bailey, the lead officer for the

0:32:04 > 0:32:11operation hydrant. You heard him warn about the dangers of life live

0:32:11 > 0:32:14streaming, and the become please could be doing more in terms of

0:32:14 > 0:32:20technology and algorithms to interrupt and put a block on child

0:32:20 > 0:32:26sexual abuse images that are constantly uploaded to the Internet.

0:32:26 > 0:32:29You also heard him saying he thinks potentially there are 20,000

0:32:29 > 0:32:34paedophiles in Britain and that in a way, the police are overwhelmed by

0:32:34 > 0:32:42all the reports but nevertheless encouragement to anybody who has

0:32:42 > 0:32:46experienced child sexual abuse to report it to the police.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49Still to come: the snow may have disrupted your travel this

0:32:49 > 0:32:51morrning but what about people forced to live in these

0:32:51 > 0:32:52freezing conditions?

0:32:52 > 0:32:55We'll be speaking to a man who's been homeless for 18 years

0:32:55 > 0:32:58about how he's been coping.

0:32:59 > 0:33:07Time for a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:33:08 > 0:33:10The European Union's chief negotiator Michel Barnier will

0:33:10 > 0:33:13publish the first draft of the EU exit treaty this morning detailing

0:33:13 > 0:33:19the terms of the UK's departure. The draft document is expected to say

0:33:19 > 0:33:23the Northern Ireland would have two follow EU single market rules to

0:33:23 > 0:33:27avoid a so-called hard border with checks and barriers and less

0:33:27 > 0:33:30alternatives are found. Downing Street has dismissed any prospect of

0:33:30 > 0:33:34a return to hard border. The cold weather has intensified

0:33:34 > 0:33:37overnight bringing more disruption to parts of the UK. Drivers have

0:33:37 > 0:33:41been warned to take extra care as emergency services deal with

0:33:41 > 0:33:45stranded motorists and crashes. Hundreds of schools are closed and

0:33:45 > 0:33:48public transport is widely affected.

0:33:48 > 0:33:51The public's satisfaction with the NHS has seen a sharp

0:33:51 > 0:33:53decline over the last year, with our opinion of GP

0:33:53 > 0:33:55services at its lowest level since records began.

0:33:55 > 0:33:58The latest British Social Attitudes survey of 3000 people

0:33:58 > 0:34:01across England, Wales and Scotland, found that almost a third

0:34:01 > 0:34:02of respondents were unhappy with the NHS

0:34:02 > 0:34:10with prolonged waiting times being cited as one

0:34:10 > 0:34:11of the main concerns.

0:34:11 > 0:34:13President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner,

0:34:13 > 0:34:15has had his security clearance at the White House downgraded.

0:34:15 > 0:34:17Having previously had a leading role in the administration,

0:34:17 > 0:34:20Mr Kushner now won't be able to view sensitive documents.

0:34:20 > 0:34:23There's speculation his previous business dealings may be the reason

0:34:23 > 0:34:30for his change of status.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32Two big high street names are on the brink of collapse

0:34:32 > 0:34:35with both Toys R Us and Maplin trying to find buyers.

0:34:35 > 0:34:38The struggling retailers, two of the UK's best known chains,

0:34:38 > 0:34:40are understood to have put administrators on stand-by after

0:34:40 > 0:34:41failing to secure a rescue deal.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44Toys R Us employs around 3,000 workers, whilst Maplin has

0:34:44 > 0:34:522,500 members of staff.

0:34:57 > 0:35:02That's the latest BBC News. Ben Stokes was named man of the match

0:35:02 > 0:35:05after hitting 63 for injured either their six wicket win over New

0:35:05 > 0:35:10Zealand which levelled the series at 1-1. The all-rounder was playing in

0:35:10 > 0:35:17his second match after his suspension, England dismissed the

0:35:17 > 0:35:22hosts.

0:35:22 > 0:35:25hosts. It was 1964 when Swansea city last to reach the quarterfinals of

0:35:25 > 0:35:30the FA Cup. That was the year before the manager was born but they are

0:35:30 > 0:35:35through to victory over his old club Sheffield Wednesday. They will face

0:35:35 > 0:35:40either Tottenham or watch down next, their replay is at Wembley tonight,

0:35:40 > 0:35:4362 places between the sides. The gap in the top of the Scottish

0:35:43 > 0:35:47permission is down to six point after Rangers beat St Johnstone 4-1

0:35:47 > 0:35:51but leaders Celtic camp away this evening if they take on -- can pull

0:35:51 > 0:35:56away this evening if they beat their rivals.

0:35:56 > 0:36:01Laura Kenny and Jason Kenny are back in action tonight, they have brought

0:36:01 > 0:36:05their six-month-old baby with them to the challenge in the Netherlands.

0:36:05 > 0:36:10Coverage will be across the BBC.

0:36:10 > 0:36:12This morning sees a major step forward in the negotiations between

0:36:12 > 0:36:14Britain and the European Union over Brexit.

0:36:14 > 0:36:16The EU is publishing its first draft agreement for how things

0:36:16 > 0:36:20like trade and the movement of people will work.

0:36:20 > 0:36:23The EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, will be outlining

0:36:23 > 0:36:24the proposals later.

0:36:24 > 0:36:27Amongst the proposals will be the preferred option on the future

0:36:27 > 0:36:32of the Irish border, and who will ultimately rule

0:36:32 > 0:36:34on trade disputes involving British and EU companies.

0:36:34 > 0:36:37To tell us more about what we can expect, let's talk to our

0:36:37 > 0:36:41political guru Norman Smith.

0:36:41 > 0:36:45He will explain it all in plain English which is one of the many

0:36:45 > 0:36:50reasons why I love you!Flattery will get you everywhere!I do mean

0:36:50 > 0:36:55it. Let's talk about the border, there is an invisible border between

0:36:55 > 0:36:58Northern Ireland and the Republic at the moment. And the EU wants it to

0:36:58 > 0:37:04remain like that.Yes, the problem is basically this. At the moment

0:37:04 > 0:37:10there is no border because Northern Island and the EU are altogether,

0:37:10 > 0:37:14there doesn't have to be a border, goods can flow across without any

0:37:14 > 0:37:18problem. Once we leave the EU, we're in a different ball game and the

0:37:18 > 0:37:23conundrum most sites have been wrestling with is how you avoid

0:37:23 > 0:37:29border checks when the UK and the EU are going to be separate. How do you

0:37:29 > 0:37:32avoid having to have customs checks along the border between Northern

0:37:32 > 0:37:36Ireland and the Republic of Ireland? The proposal which the EU have come

0:37:36 > 0:37:42up with, or it seems they're going to come up with, is saying that

0:37:42 > 0:37:44basically, Northern Ireland can pretty much carry on as is within

0:37:44 > 0:37:52sort of arrangement where they stick by existing EU rules when it comes

0:37:52 > 0:37:56to Customs and trade, they remain inside the EU customs union. The

0:37:56 > 0:38:00problem with that from the British government's point of view is they

0:38:00 > 0:38:04believe that would be carving out a separate deal, almost a separate

0:38:04 > 0:38:10Brexit steel, for Northern Ireland. And that, they fear, would threaten

0:38:10 > 0:38:15the territorial integrity of the UK. Northern Ireland would be treated

0:38:15 > 0:38:18differently from the rest of the UK and it would threaten the single

0:38:18 > 0:38:21market of the United Kingdom because Northern Ireland would have

0:38:21 > 0:38:25different trading arrangements and be bound by the rules of the EU. So

0:38:25 > 0:38:29the British government are going to say no, that is simply not

0:38:29 > 0:38:34acceptable. The danger then from the EU's point of view is if you're not

0:38:34 > 0:38:37going to have that kind of arrangement, then you're going to

0:38:37 > 0:38:41have to have a much harder, fixed border, which is exactly what

0:38:41 > 0:38:47everyone has been trying to avoid largely because of the peace

0:38:47 > 0:38:51process. Because central to diffusing tensions, hostilities was

0:38:51 > 0:38:56doing away with any sort of border. The real fears is that if you

0:38:56 > 0:39:00reintroduce a border, never mind the inconvenience and costs to business,

0:39:00 > 0:39:04the real fear is you rewind the clock and go back to all the

0:39:04 > 0:39:09tensions and hostilities and difficulties and sectarian splits

0:39:09 > 0:39:15that so damaged Northern Ireland and Ireland in the past.Thank you very

0:39:15 > 0:39:17much, Norman.

0:39:17 > 0:39:20Let's talk to Katie Daughen from the British Irish Chamber

0:39:20 > 0:39:21of Commerce, which represents businesses that work

0:39:21 > 0:39:22in both countries.

0:39:22 > 0:39:25Colm Gribben, who has lived and worked on the Irish

0:39:25 > 0:39:26border for his whole life.

0:39:26 > 0:39:29And the pro-Brexit Conservative MP Nigel Evans.

0:39:29 > 0:39:34Nigel Evans, this is going to be a problem, what's your solution?It

0:39:34 > 0:39:39shouldn't be a problem.It's going to be.Why? You can make something

0:39:39 > 0:39:41as difficult as he wants to be but we really are starting from the

0:39:41 > 0:39:47wrong point. What we ought to be looking at is the deal between the

0:39:47 > 0:39:50United Kingdom and the European Union first.This is what Michel

0:39:50 > 0:39:54Barnier should be focusing on. But that is not what is happening so

0:39:54 > 0:40:01let's deal with this.I know it is not but it should be.But it isn't,

0:40:01 > 0:40:06so let's deal...If we get the sort of frictionless deal we get between

0:40:06 > 0:40:09the EU and the UK, this sort of issue that we're talking about in

0:40:09 > 0:40:13the north and south of Ireland this appears, so why did we focus on

0:40:13 > 0:40:18that?Because people are worried. The European Union are introducing

0:40:18 > 0:40:22this is a real issue and a real problem when it shouldn't be. We are

0:40:22 > 0:40:25starting from the wrong bondage find. Secondly, what I would say to

0:40:25 > 0:40:31Michel Barnier -- wrong vantage point. What I would say to Michel

0:40:31 > 0:40:34Barnier is that he knows the British government doesn't want a hard

0:40:34 > 0:40:38border between the hard border, the Irish Taoiseach doesn't want one

0:40:38 > 0:40:42either so it's not going to happen. And it should not happen unless of

0:40:42 > 0:40:46course the European Union foists that onto the Irish and I would be

0:40:46 > 0:40:49really interested to see what the Taoiseach would have to say about

0:40:49 > 0:40:56that. Because we want to see the free flow of goods and services as

0:40:56 > 0:40:59is happening now.Even though Boris Johnson in that leaked memo

0:40:59 > 0:41:05suggested that the government should focusing on the Irish border

0:41:05 > 0:41:09becoming significantly harder?He's looking at all the options.It's

0:41:09 > 0:41:16counter the government policy.Of course it is but he's looking at all

0:41:16 > 0:41:18the options. If the European Union insists there should be a hard

0:41:18 > 0:41:22border, it's right we should look at the options. We don't want it, the

0:41:22 > 0:41:26Irish don't want it and I hope we should resist Michel Barnier.Nobody

0:41:26 > 0:41:31wants it so what's the issue?It's important to understand that what is

0:41:31 > 0:41:35being discussed here is illegal under fitting to commitments that

0:41:35 > 0:41:41were made in December by the UK Government and the EU. We would

0:41:41 > 0:41:45agree that a trade agreement is the preferential way of achieving

0:41:45 > 0:41:57borderless status on the of Ireland. But measures need to protect the

0:41:57 > 0:42:01Good Friday Agreement and all that entails including the all Ireland

0:42:01 > 0:42:06economy. We would still like to see the issue addressed through option a

0:42:06 > 0:42:10and B, as they are common in referred to. But the UK Government

0:42:10 > 0:42:14did make commitments saying that should those options fail, measures

0:42:14 > 0:42:18would be put in place to keep Northern Ireland aligned with

0:42:18 > 0:42:23Ireland on regulatory issues and in line with the single market and

0:42:23 > 0:42:30Customs union. All the draft text today is doing is giving the legal

0:42:30 > 0:42:37underpinning to it. A separate commitment was made by the UK

0:42:37 > 0:42:40Government that should that option come into play, there would be no

0:42:40 > 0:42:43Borders put up to Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK which is

0:42:43 > 0:42:46getting a bit less discussion. We would agree that we would want to

0:42:46 > 0:42:49see a trade agreement come into place that would suggest this issues

0:42:49 > 0:42:56and we published eight paper which suggests that last year.You have

0:42:56 > 0:43:01spent your life on the border, expense of the rest of the UK what

0:43:01 > 0:43:03it

0:43:03 > 0:43:06expense of the rest of the UK what mean to you is their end up being

0:43:06 > 0:43:12the border.To be honest with you, I'm a 46 years of age, I have grown

0:43:12 > 0:43:22up in the Times Troubles and since the ceasefire as well.

0:43:22 > 0:43:25the ceasefire as well. Society has transformed, it was unemployment

0:43:25 > 0:43:33rates of 30% and more in the 70s and now it is 3%. I think that is

0:43:33 > 0:43:37because of the free trade across the border. From a purely business point

0:43:37 > 0:43:41of view, we don't want to see if changing. It's working quite well

0:43:41 > 0:43:45the way it is and from our perspective, to have any sort of

0:43:45 > 0:43:48physical border there which would delay the movement of workers and

0:43:48 > 0:43:55goats, would just be a nightmare to be honest. -- the movement of

0:43:55 > 0:43:59workers and goods.That is the trade side, what about the peace side?

0:43:59 > 0:44:03People say if there was a border, checkpoints, that is a target for

0:44:03 > 0:44:08dissidents in the future.Of course, I'm speaking from a business point

0:44:08 > 0:44:14of view.I'm not a politician. No, I'm asking you as a resident of

0:44:14 > 0:44:16Northern Ireland. You've lived through the Troubles and you've

0:44:16 > 0:44:21lived when there has not been a border and relative peace, so,

0:44:21 > 0:44:27that's...Of course, it's a reality. Nobody wants to see that. I have

0:44:27 > 0:44:31four kids ranging from 19 to ten, they know nothing but the situation

0:44:31 > 0:44:36at the minute and that's how I wanted to remain. It does get

0:44:36 > 0:44:39difficult and hard border is introduced and there's a of any sort

0:44:39 > 0:44:47of threat, no one wants to see that. Nigel Evans, what is the difference

0:44:47 > 0:44:51between Labour and the Conservative position on Brexit? Labour have

0:44:51 > 0:44:55called for a close and cooperative relationship with the EU on exit,

0:44:55 > 0:44:59the Conservative have called for a deeper special religion shipped

0:44:59 > 0:45:06after Brexit.It's all changed with the Corbyn speech, saying that they

0:45:06 > 0:45:11would leave the customs union and join customs union which basically

0:45:11 > 0:45:16hankers after the EU negotiating trade unions -- handcuffs us to the

0:45:16 > 0:45:23EU negotiating trade. We are not going to be paying billions of

0:45:23 > 0:45:26pounds of British taxpayers money into the European Union to access a

0:45:26 > 0:45:29market where we have a £70 billion deficit. It's really simple. People

0:45:29 > 0:45:39ask for clarity, verities.-- there it is.

0:45:39 > 0:45:41it is. Watched you say about the civil service saying it giving up a

0:45:41 > 0:45:46three course meal for a packet of crisps?It a great sound bite from

0:45:46 > 0:45:49the EU loving former mandarin, we know where his loyalties lie.It

0:45:49 > 0:45:56doesn't mean it's not true.It isn't true. You talk about the potential

0:45:56 > 0:46:00of trade deals around the world including the US, you sort Liam Fox

0:46:00 > 0:46:04talk about that. The IMF has said that the fastest-growing parts of

0:46:04 > 0:46:09the world are outside the European Union. 90% of the growth over the

0:46:09 > 0:46:13next 15 years is going to happen in those countries. These are the

0:46:13 > 0:46:18countries we want to deal with.

0:46:18 > 0:46:22Quick final thought, you were meant to be going to Burma today with

0:46:22 > 0:46:27colleagues but you were not granted a Visa, why?This is the

0:46:27 > 0:46:29international aid select committee, we were not told until last night

0:46:29 > 0:46:34that the Visas had not come through. Clearly it is political, it has got

0:46:34 > 0:46:39to be. We brought a reporter critical of the regime in the

0:46:39 > 0:46:43country, about the way they are dealing with the Rohingya and that

0:46:43 > 0:46:49can be the only reason why they have denied us the Visas. The British and

0:46:49 > 0:46:52gave £100 million worth of aid to the country but not to the

0:46:52 > 0:46:57government, I hasten to add. Clearly it is important that we, as a select

0:46:57 > 0:47:00committee, see how the money is being spent and I think it is

0:47:00 > 0:47:04appalling that these fees ares have not been coming forward.Nigel

0:47:04 > 0:47:09Evans, thank you. Thank you to both of our guests, thank you for coming

0:47:09 > 0:47:14on the programme. Some breaking news now. Toys "R" Us

0:47:14 > 0:47:20has just gone into administration, putting 3200 jobs at risk. Toys "R"

0:47:20 > 0:47:26Us has gone into administration, 3200 jobs are at risk. We will bring

0:47:26 > 0:47:31you the reaction to that, of course, and any news on Maplin during the

0:47:31 > 0:47:38course of the morning. Also coming up... After ten o'clock.

0:47:38 > 0:47:39After our

0:47:39 > 0:47:40exclusive report earlier this week

0:47:40 > 0:47:42about the Pupil Referral Unit which primary children go

0:47:42 > 0:47:44to when they are faced with exclusion from school,

0:47:44 > 0:47:47we'll be speaking to the head of the ADHD Foundation,

0:47:47 > 0:47:49about what can be done to help improve the behaviour

0:47:49 > 0:47:53of our primary school children.

0:47:53 > 0:47:56And specifically he is writing to the government to ask for much

0:47:56 > 0:48:00quicker and earlier diagnosis of children with ADHD.

0:48:00 > 0:48:02Heavy snowfall has hit many parts of the UK,

0:48:02 > 0:48:05with the south-east and north-east of England seeing up to 13 cm of

0:48:05 > 0:48:07snow and temperatures of minus 12.

0:48:07 > 0:48:09For people living on the street these conditions can be treacherous.

0:48:09 > 0:48:17In Edinburgh, two rough sleepers have died this winter.

0:48:18 > 0:48:21There is such a thing called the 'Severe Weather Emergency

0:48:21 > 0:48:23Protocol' which is activated in these conditions which means

0:48:23 > 0:48:26councils offer immediate shelter to homeless people.

0:48:26 > 0:48:29But is it working?

0:48:29 > 0:48:32Let's speak to Bryan Gilchrist, he's 50 and has been

0:48:32 > 0:48:33homeless for 18 years.

0:48:33 > 0:48:39He lives on the streets of London.

0:48:39 > 0:48:42And Sally Huxtable and Chris Groves who say they beg because they can't

0:48:42 > 0:48:46afford to heat their rough sleepers flat.

0:48:46 > 0:48:51We will talk to them now. Hello, thank you very much for coming onto

0:48:51 > 0:49:00the programme. Good morning, Brian, how was last night?It was cold. It

0:49:00 > 0:49:03started snowing really heavily at about two o'clock, I woke up at 6am

0:49:03 > 0:49:09with an inch of snow over the top of me. It was pretty cold. I heard that

0:49:09 > 0:49:14it was -10, minus 12. It was a chilly night.Why have you not

0:49:14 > 0:49:17benefited from this severe weather emergency protocol where authorities

0:49:17 > 0:49:22would get you a roof over your head. Because it isn't that simple, it is

0:49:22 > 0:49:31first come first serve. The one that I know that does it in Westminster,

0:49:31 > 0:49:36Connections, they come around maybe... Ten or 11 o'clock at night.

0:49:36 > 0:49:43They will say, do you want to go they don't say that they've got a

0:49:43 > 0:49:46place for you, they say that they will see if they can get a place,

0:49:46 > 0:49:51they don't guarantee anywhere. It isn't as simple as it sounds.But

0:49:51 > 0:49:55even someone saying that they will see what they can do, isn't it

0:49:55 > 0:49:58better than sleeping outside of the London Palladium?Yes, but a lot of

0:49:58 > 0:50:06people don't want to go into the hostels. Because of violence, drugs,

0:50:06 > 0:50:10drink, whatever. People don't want to go there.What would you want to

0:50:10 > 0:50:17do?Me, I don't like hostels. I don't like them. I've had pretty bad

0:50:17 > 0:50:21experiences in them before. Me, I would be happy with a place on

0:50:21 > 0:50:30wearing. -- on my own. It's a waiting game.How do you keep warm

0:50:30 > 0:50:34in these conditions?At the moment, I cannot carry everything I need to

0:50:34 > 0:50:40keep warm. I carry the basics. I have a couple of sleeping bags,

0:50:40 > 0:50:46blankets, two or three jackets, jumpers, had, scarves, and I've got

0:50:46 > 0:50:51my bed to bundle them all on. I go to sleep and hope to wake up in the

0:50:51 > 0:50:57morning.You hope you wake up in the morning?Yes.And as people go by,

0:50:57 > 0:51:02what do they do?They keep going by. Now and again people ask if you are

0:51:02 > 0:51:06OK, they get you a coffee or something to eat. But there are not

0:51:06 > 0:51:10as many now as they used to be. I think it is because there are a lot

0:51:10 > 0:51:14more beggars on the streets now than they used to be.Not as many people

0:51:14 > 0:51:20stop because there are more beggars? That's right.

0:51:21 > 0:51:23That's right.Sally and Chris, thank you for coming on the programme. You

0:51:23 > 0:51:28are no longer living on the streets. How long were you?I was on the

0:51:28 > 0:51:33streets for 11 years. That was before I met Sally.I had been on

0:51:33 > 0:51:38the streets for three years.Now you have this so-called rough sleepers

0:51:38 > 0:51:45flat, what does that mean?Basically we were put into a hostel first. The

0:51:45 > 0:51:50outreach team came round before anything would happen, they had to

0:51:50 > 0:51:57see you and they had to see you three times.They had to see you

0:51:57 > 0:52:01sleeping rough three times.And often they don't come back to see if

0:52:01 > 0:52:05you are in the same place. Or where you are. It could be once a month

0:52:05 > 0:52:12they come, or if you are not there the night that they come, that's it.

0:52:12 > 0:52:18It doesn't count.If they do see you three times, what is supposed to

0:52:18 > 0:52:23kick in?What is supposed to happen...Your name is put down and

0:52:23 > 0:52:32you wait for a room.

0:52:32 > 0:52:37you wait for a room.If you've never been to London before. I didn't want

0:52:37 > 0:52:43Sally being away from me in a hostel, she has had bad experiences

0:52:43 > 0:52:48in the past. With a load of men that she doesn't know.You have a flat

0:52:48 > 0:52:58now. But you say that you cannot afford to heat it.

0:52:58 > 0:53:01afford to heat it.The Electric is...It's a rough sleepers flat.

0:53:01 > 0:53:05The landlord keeps one flat with reduced rent, which housing benefit

0:53:05 > 0:53:11will pay. The only problem is that we have to pay a top up on top of

0:53:11 > 0:53:18that. The windows are the old wooden ones. It is actually warmer outside

0:53:18 > 0:53:26then it is in the flat at the moment.Really? Bryan, have you been

0:53:26 > 0:53:30around? Yes. So you will sweep round every morning to check that those

0:53:30 > 0:53:35who have slept on the streets is all right.I do ask him to come and

0:53:35 > 0:53:41stay, but it is warmer outside. Trying to get the money to put the

0:53:41 > 0:53:47electric on to heat the flat, it is old storage heaters and it is

0:53:47 > 0:53:53just...Really expensive? It eats your money.Basically it's when any

0:53:53 > 0:53:57of us get up in the morning. As soon as we are up, we go around and make

0:53:57 > 0:54:03sure everyone is OK.

0:54:03 > 0:54:07sure everyone is OK. And we try to get money.And when you say that,

0:54:07 > 0:54:11what you mean?The same as when we were on the street really.Begging.

0:54:11 > 0:54:22Food. To heat the flat, even for a couple of days, you know?Is there

0:54:22 > 0:54:26any possibility that you might be able to get paid work one day?I'd

0:54:26 > 0:54:32love to. We would love to.But over the last few years, I've had chronic

0:54:32 > 0:54:42back pain, which in this weather isn't very nice, you know?Which is

0:54:42 > 0:54:47why you receive PIP, don't you?Yes, I receive that once a month. But

0:54:47 > 0:54:56they knocked me off ESA, which I cannot understand. If I am receiving

0:54:56 > 0:55:00PIP, surely I should be able to receive employment support

0:55:00 > 0:55:07allowance?They are changing all of the benefits now.

0:55:07 > 0:55:10the benefits now. It's fair enough if you have somewhere to live and

0:55:10 > 0:55:14everything else is paid for, but when you have a lifestyle like ours,

0:55:14 > 0:55:19which is not the normal lifestyle, then it is hard to get help from

0:55:19 > 0:55:28other people. We are basically looked over.

0:55:28 > 0:55:31looked over. We sat on the street, that'll be fine, they will wake up

0:55:31 > 0:55:36in the morning. We don't know where we are going to.It is like you are

0:55:36 > 0:55:43invisible. Honestly, it's like nifty sees you. Nobody. Nobody cares,

0:55:43 > 0:55:47whatever.I have had people step on me or fall over me, they have not

0:55:47 > 0:55:55been looking.

0:55:55 > 0:55:59been looking. I know people have their own lives to lead, but I don't

0:55:59 > 0:56:02understand...Why do you think that is, do you think people don't know

0:56:02 > 0:56:08what to say or they are embarrassed? They don't think we are a member of

0:56:08 > 0:56:13society any more.Not everybody thinks that.There are a lot of

0:56:13 > 0:56:20bogus beggars. How do you know a real one from the bogus one?That

0:56:20 > 0:56:25was the story in Cambridgeshire this week where police said that the

0:56:25 > 0:56:28beggars were fake, scammers effectively.We are not all like

0:56:28 > 0:56:34that.How do you tell the difference?You are from Edinburgh,

0:56:34 > 0:56:38why did you come to London?If I were still in Edinburgh, I would be

0:56:38 > 0:56:43dead.Why do you say that?I was a really heavy drinker so I came here

0:56:43 > 0:56:51to get away from it.As it worked? Yes.And you don't drink any more?I

0:56:51 > 0:56:56haven't had a drink for 15 months. How does it make you feel?Good, if

0:56:56 > 0:57:01I was still in Edinburgh I would be dead now.I want to thank you all

0:57:01 > 0:57:05very much for coming onto the programme, telling people what it is

0:57:05 > 0:57:13really like. It isn't easy. It isn't easy, that's right. Thank you. At

0:57:13 > 0:57:17ten o'clock we will bring you the latest news and sport. And before

0:57:17 > 0:57:21that we will bring you the weather. Do

0:57:21 > 0:57:22tell us all about it, Carol.

0:57:22 > 0:57:26tell us all about it, Carol. Thank you. There is a lot of snow in the

0:57:26 > 0:57:34forecast today. The Met Office has a and the weather warning out again.

0:57:34 > 0:57:37Across central Scotland, north-east England and Cumbria. We could see a

0:57:37 > 0:57:41further 10-15 centimetres of snow fall. This weather warning is valid

0:57:41 > 0:57:46until tomorrow evening at 6pm. In this area, there is a lot of loans

0:57:46 > 0:57:54snow. In northern England we have 21 centimetres of lying snow. -- low

0:57:54 > 0:57:59lying snow. In Aberdeenshire we have nine centimetres. There is also the

0:57:59 > 0:58:03risk of ice today, if you are travelling take extra care. Snow

0:58:03 > 0:58:07showers continue to pack in. Where we have the samba weather warning.

0:58:07 > 0:58:11We had a warning in the south-east which is about to expire. It will

0:58:11 > 0:58:20dry up in the south-east as the wind moves in. There are snow shovels

0:58:20 > 0:58:23across the far south-west. Temperature wise, regardless of what

0:58:23 > 0:58:31it says, freezing temperatures across the UK. With wind chill,

0:58:31 > 0:58:36looking at -11 degrees. That is how it feels against your skin. The snow

0:58:36 > 0:58:40will be blowing and drifting because of strong winds, that will continue

0:58:40 > 0:58:44this evening and overnight. More snow piling in with that Amber

0:58:44 > 0:58:51weather warning. There will be a lot of dry weather between, a cold night

0:58:51 > 0:58:55as well. Temperature is even lower than this in the countryside and

0:58:55 > 0:59:00where we do have lying snow. Tomorrow, as well as our existing

0:59:00 > 0:59:04web were quicker weather warning from the Met Office, we have another

0:59:04 > 0:59:10across south-west England and Wales. Storm Emma comes up from the near

0:59:10 > 0:59:12continent, there is a lot of moisture in this storm and as it

0:59:12 > 0:59:16engages with the cold across our shores, it readily turns to snow.

0:59:16 > 0:59:20You can see from the eyes of bars that it will be windy, we have

0:59:20 > 0:59:27drifting snow and the potential for blizzards. If it moves further west

0:59:27 > 0:59:31and east it will change the snow distribution, this is what we have

0:59:31 > 0:59:37at the moment. It could clip London and it is heading in the direction

0:59:37 > 0:59:43of Northern Ireland. Still more snow to come for you in these areas, and

0:59:43 > 0:59:50some dry and bright conditions between. Temperatures about

0:59:50 > 0:59:54freezing, and when you add on the significant wind-chill, it will feel

0:59:54 > 1:00:01a lot colder. -11 in this central suede. Finally, on Friday, connected

1:00:01 > 1:00:06to Emma, this system produces more snow, pushing northwards. Snow

1:00:06 > 1:00:14showers in the north, dry weather between but still very cold.

1:00:14 > 1:00:15Hello, it's ten o'clock.

1:00:15 > 1:00:16I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:00:16 > 1:00:21The Beast from the East hits home.

1:00:21 > 1:00:24Drivers have been warned to take extra care, hundreds of schools

1:00:24 > 1:00:26are closed and public transport is widely affected.

1:00:26 > 1:00:28With temperatures falling as low as minus 12, some councils

1:00:28 > 1:00:31are offering emergency acommodation to people sleeping on the streets.

1:00:31 > 1:00:33We've been talking to one rough sleeper about dealing

1:00:33 > 1:00:38with the freezing temperatures.

1:00:39 > 1:00:43Started snowing around two o'clock really heavily, I woke up at six

1:00:43 > 1:00:50with an inch of snow on top of me, pretty cold. I had heard it was

1:00:50 > 1:00:52minus 12. It was a chilly night.

1:00:52 > 1:00:54A key document detailing the proposed terms of the UK's

1:00:54 > 1:00:57departure from the EU is being published this morning.

1:00:57 > 1:01:00It says Northern Ireland will have to follow the rules of the EU's

1:01:00 > 1:01:03single market if no one can come up with a plan to avoid

1:01:03 > 1:01:08a hard border between it and the republic of Ireland.

1:01:08 > 1:01:13What I would say to Michel Barnier is that he knows that the British

1:01:13 > 1:01:18government doesn't want a hard border, between Northern Ireland and

1:01:18 > 1:01:22Ireland, the Irish Taoiseach doesn't want that either, so that's not

1:01:22 > 1:01:28going to happen. And it shouldn't happen.

1:01:28 > 1:01:31Also, Meghan Markle, Prince Harry and the Duke and Duchess of

1:01:31 > 1:01:34Cambridge will be making their first joint public appearance and we will

1:01:34 > 1:01:37bring you live coverage.

1:01:40 > 1:01:41Good morning, it's 10am.

1:01:41 > 1:01:42Here's Joanna Gosling in the BBC Newsroom

1:01:42 > 1:01:44with a summary of todays news.

1:01:44 > 1:01:45The European Union's Chief negotiator Michel Barnier

1:01:45 > 1:01:49will publish the first draft of the EU's Brexit Treaty this

1:01:49 > 1:01:53morning, detailing the terms of the UK's departure.

1:01:53 > 1:01:56The draft document is expected to say Northern Ireland would have

1:01:56 > 1:01:59to follow EU single market rules to avoid a so-called "hard border"

1:01:59 > 1:02:03with checks and barriers, unless alternatives are found.

1:02:03 > 1:02:05Downing Street has dismissed any prospect

1:02:05 > 1:02:12of a return to a hard border.

1:02:12 > 1:02:17Yesterday a leaked letter from Boris Johnson appeared to suggest there

1:02:17 > 1:02:21could be customs checks in the future, she has been speaking in the

1:02:21 > 1:02:24last few minutes.The issue of the Northern Ireland border is being

1:02:24 > 1:02:31used politically to try and keep the UK into the customs union, and

1:02:31 > 1:02:34effectively be single market, so we can't really leave the EU, that's

1:02:34 > 1:02:39what's going on. But the letter says is that actually there are very good

1:02:39 > 1:02:44solutions that you could put in place that would obviate or prevent

1:02:44 > 1:02:51any kind of hard border, but would allow goods, people, people can't

1:02:51 > 1:02:54move totally freely because it's a common travel area, but allow goods

1:02:54 > 1:02:58to leave and move freely.

1:02:58 > 1:02:59The cold weather has intensified overnight

1:02:59 > 1:03:01bringing more disruption to parts of the UK.

1:03:01 > 1:03:03Drivers have been warned to take extra care as emergency

1:03:03 > 1:03:05services deal with stranded motorists and crashes.

1:03:05 > 1:03:07Hundreds of schools are closed and public transport

1:03:07 > 1:03:14is widely affected.

1:03:14 > 1:03:19It's been announced that the retailer Toys R Us has gone into

1:03:19 > 1:03:27administration. It puts 3200 jobs at risk but it's understood that stores

1:03:27 > 1:03:31will continue to trade. They had failed to secure a buyer.

1:03:31 > 1:03:34The public's satisfaction with the NHS has seen a sharp

1:03:34 > 1:03:36decline over the last year, with our opinion of GP

1:03:36 > 1:03:38services at its lowest level since records began.

1:03:38 > 1:03:40The latest British Social Attitudes survey of 3000 people

1:03:40 > 1:03:42across England, Wales and Scotland, found that almost a third

1:03:42 > 1:03:45of respondents were unhappy with the NHS

1:03:45 > 1:03:48with prolonged waiting times being cited as one

1:03:48 > 1:03:51of the main concerns.

1:03:51 > 1:03:53President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner,

1:03:53 > 1:03:57has had his security clearance at the White House downgraded.

1:03:57 > 1:03:59Having previously had a leading role in the administration,

1:03:59 > 1:04:02Mr Kushner now won't be able to view sensitive documents.

1:04:02 > 1:04:05There's speculation his previous business dealings may be the reason

1:04:05 > 1:04:09for his change of status.

1:04:09 > 1:04:12A BBC charity says it has sacked six people for sexual harassment

1:04:12 > 1:04:15or for watching pornography on work computers.

1:04:15 > 1:04:19BBC Media Action said the incidents happened overseas in the past ten

1:04:19 > 1:04:22years and those sacked were all foreign nationals.

1:04:22 > 1:04:26It comes as international charities face closer scrutiny

1:04:26 > 1:04:33following claims of sexual misconduct by Oxfam staff in Haiti.

1:04:33 > 1:04:35A supermarket in Amsterdam is opening what it says is the world's

1:04:35 > 1:04:37first plastic-free aisle.

1:04:37 > 1:04:39An environmental campaign group helped replace plastic packaging

1:04:39 > 1:04:43with biodegradable materials on around 700 products.

1:04:43 > 1:04:46The company says it hopes to expand the trial to all its 75 stores

1:04:46 > 1:04:50by the end of the year.

1:04:50 > 1:04:56That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.30am.

1:04:56 > 1:04:57Later this hour, Prince William, the Duchess of Cambridge,

1:04:57 > 1:05:00Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will all appear for their first

1:05:00 > 1:05:01royal engagement together.

1:05:01 > 1:05:04We'll bring that to you live.

1:05:04 > 1:05:08Also, we want your experience of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity

1:05:08 > 1:05:10Disorder after the ADHD Foundation tells this programme it's calling

1:05:10 > 1:05:13on the Government to take action on delays in diagnosing

1:05:13 > 1:05:20the condition in children.

1:05:21 > 1:05:26Let me read you this text, I was asking how long it took to be

1:05:26 > 1:05:32diagnosed. It took me until I was 37 until I was diagnosed, all my life I

1:05:32 > 1:05:35had suffered anxiety and for being, as well as being Dipsy. I had to

1:05:35 > 1:05:41really push but I got a result and I'm now on a medication that allowed

1:05:41 > 1:05:45me to have my life back and I'm going back to college, finally. Alan

1:05:45 > 1:05:52says, my son is 22, he has a diagnosis of ADHD, he was failed by

1:05:52 > 1:05:58the education system, he's been 27 systems -- to seven different

1:05:58 > 1:06:02places. At ten, he went to a school for pregnant teenage mums because

1:06:02 > 1:06:08there was no one else for his for him to go. I have another text here,

1:06:08 > 1:06:14people think that ADHD is an excuse for bad behaviour but that is not

1:06:14 > 1:06:19true. They are very forgetful, they have difficulty following

1:06:19 > 1:06:24instructions and avoid tasks that make them feel comfortable.

1:06:24 > 1:06:28Typically they have no self-esteem or self belief and our actions and

1:06:28 > 1:06:31impulsive. We would talk more about ADHD in the next half an hour. Get

1:06:31 > 1:06:39in touch, very welcome, I'm very grateful for any pertinent

1:06:39 > 1:06:43experiences, you're the expert in areas like this. Send us an e-mail

1:06:43 > 1:06:48or message as on Twitter.

1:06:48 > 1:06:51Ben Stokes looks to have put all the controversy behind him -

1:06:51 > 1:06:54he was man of the match in England's six-wicket victory over New Zealand

1:06:54 > 1:06:56in their second one-dayer.

1:06:56 > 1:06:58He'd already taken a couple of wickets when he came

1:06:58 > 1:07:01to the crease and quickly set about chasing their target of 244.

1:07:01 > 1:07:03Stokes top-scored with an unbeaten 63, as Jos Buttler

1:07:03 > 1:07:10hit the winning runs.

1:07:10 > 1:07:13But how about this for a catch?

1:07:13 > 1:07:18A fine one-handed take by a man in the crowd -

1:07:18 > 1:07:20and you can understand his wild celebrations because that won him

1:07:20 > 1:07:26a prize of 50,000 NZ dollars - that's about £26,000.

1:07:26 > 1:07:29Free tea and coffee was dished out to warm up the fans

1:07:29 > 1:07:31at the Liberty Stadium last night as Swansea reached

1:07:31 > 1:07:34the quarterfinals of the FA Cup for the first time in 54 years.

1:07:34 > 1:07:39They beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-0, Nathan Dyer sending this effort

1:07:39 > 1:07:41straight through the keeper's legs for their second.

1:07:41 > 1:07:45Tottenham or Rochdale await in the next round,

1:07:45 > 1:07:48their replay is at Wembley tonight.

1:07:48 > 1:07:50The gap at the top of the Scottish Premiership

1:07:50 > 1:07:53is down to six points, after second-placed Rangers

1:07:53 > 1:07:56beat St Johnstone 4-1, Alfredo Morelos rounding things off.

1:07:56 > 1:08:00Leaders Celtic can pull away again tonight though -

1:08:00 > 1:08:04they play Dundee.

1:08:04 > 1:08:09That match has just been postponed because of weather. Other fixtures

1:08:09 > 1:08:17in the Scottish premiership have also been postponed.

1:08:18 > 1:08:20Greg Rutherford has pulled out of the world indoor champion Joe 's

1:08:20 > 1:08:26which starts on Friday. He has already withdrawn from the man of

1:08:26 > 1:08:32games in April. He missed the World Championships last year within ankle

1:08:32 > 1:08:37injury and he has also had groin surgery. He will focus on returning

1:08:37 > 1:08:41to full fitness to defend his European title in August.

1:08:41 > 1:08:44There's been a fair bit of controversy over paralympic

1:08:44 > 1:08:45classifications recently and the British Paralympic

1:08:45 > 1:08:46Association has published new guidance.

1:08:46 > 1:08:48The UK Athlete Classification Code places athletes' rights

1:08:48 > 1:08:51and responsibilities at the heart of the process, as they bid to

1:08:51 > 1:08:57prevent manipulation of the system.

1:08:57 > 1:09:00I think it's about absolutely understanding who was responsible

1:09:00 > 1:09:06for what, and particularly, how can we better educate the athletes, the

1:09:06 > 1:09:09support personnel, everyone involved in the delivery of Paralympic sport,

1:09:09 > 1:09:12to make sure they understand how the process works and more importantly

1:09:12 > 1:09:15at a national level, what their response abilities are. Then it

1:09:15 > 1:09:20comes to it, there will be a better understanding of that so that anyone

1:09:20 > 1:09:26who has concerned can base that on at genuine concern rather than

1:09:26 > 1:09:27misunderstandings.

1:09:27 > 1:09:29Cyclists Laura and Jason Kenny are back competing today,

1:09:29 > 1:09:31hopefully having had a good night's sleep because they've

1:09:31 > 1:09:34taken their six month old baby Albie along with them

1:09:34 > 1:09:36to the Track Cycling World Championships in the Netherlands.

1:09:36 > 1:09:38in a city apartment, along with the grandparents who'll

1:09:38 > 1:09:39be helping out with childcare.

1:09:39 > 1:09:47The Kennys are two of seven Olympic champions in the British team.

1:09:48 > 1:09:56Headlines in half an hour. Pete wanted to say this, it's

1:09:56 > 1:10:00heartbreaking watching the three people who have been on the streets.

1:10:00 > 1:10:04And, says, no one should be homeless, it's not just the home

1:10:04 > 1:10:09they need but help to get benefits and food. The richer you are, the

1:10:09 > 1:10:17more they think they are ability -- invisible. I always give money, no

1:10:17 > 1:10:24one should be on the streets. Toys R Us has gone into

1:10:24 > 1:10:27administration, does that mean it has gone bust?Yes, administration

1:10:27 > 1:10:33technical language meaning that the efforts to save it as a company has

1:10:33 > 1:10:39failed. They will carry on trading for well, they will see if they can

1:10:39 > 1:10:43sell off bits of it, but they failed the whole thing will wind down and

1:10:43 > 1:10:48the stores will close. That is crushingly disappointing for staff.

1:10:48 > 1:10:52Before Christmas, a deal was done which meant that they got some rents

1:10:52 > 1:10:59down in its shops, they post some shops and that hasn't worked. As far

1:10:59 > 1:11:04as customers is not today, stores will carry on trading, you can go in

1:11:04 > 1:11:08and buy things. Anyone who has been there recently will see that the

1:11:08 > 1:11:15shares are quite there but there are a lot of discounts, so there's a

1:11:15 > 1:11:19reason to go in.What will happen to the 3200 staff members and why has

1:11:19 > 1:11:24it gone bust?It's a very bleak outlook for the staff. The

1:11:24 > 1:11:28administrators, that's the accountants who are now in charge,

1:11:28 > 1:11:32saying it trades on for the moment while they see what they can do. But

1:11:32 > 1:11:38they've given of March 11 where people had put down deposits, they

1:11:38 > 1:11:41will still be valid and they will be a will to pick up their goods.

1:11:41 > 1:11:46That's only two weekends away. People will look at that date at

1:11:46 > 1:11:53perhaps the beginning of the end if they cannot sell any of the stores.

1:11:53 > 1:12:00For the staff, the danger is they lose their jobs, they fall back for

1:12:00 > 1:12:03statutory redundancy pay. That might mean a few thousand pounds for

1:12:03 > 1:12:07someone who has worked there a long time, and that's not a replacement

1:12:07 > 1:12:12for the job they had. For customers, vouchers and gift cards are still

1:12:12 > 1:12:15valid for the moment, there's a March 11 cut off, if you want to use

1:12:15 > 1:12:21anything, use it by them. Why has it happened? They had a lot of debt to

1:12:21 > 1:12:24pay off, they had a pension scheme which was expensive that they had to

1:12:24 > 1:12:30put money into. And people just were not shopping in such great numbers

1:12:30 > 1:12:34there. People were not prepared to make that drive out of town just to

1:12:34 > 1:12:37buy toys at their prices when they might get them off the Internet or

1:12:37 > 1:12:41get them from the big supermarkets. Thank you.

1:12:41 > 1:12:44This week we've had exclusive access to the work going on at Hawkswood

1:12:44 > 1:12:45Primary Pupil Referral Unit in Northeast London.

1:12:45 > 1:12:48It's the place children as young as four in the borough

1:12:48 > 1:12:51of Waltham Forest, are sent when they're in danger

1:12:51 > 1:12:54of being excluded from their mainstream school.

1:12:54 > 1:12:59We've been given a unique insight into how teachers there deal

1:12:59 > 1:13:01with outbursts and even violence from pupils.

1:13:01 > 1:13:05We asked the Head Teacher at Hawkswood, Marie Gentles,

1:13:05 > 1:13:11to explain some of the many techniques they use.

1:13:11 > 1:13:12You didn't listen straightaway.

1:13:12 > 1:13:14You weren't keeping yourself safe or your friends.

1:13:14 > 1:13:18So that's one minute gone.

1:13:18 > 1:13:21What a shame.

1:13:30 > 1:13:32We need to understand children's behaviour as communication.

1:13:32 > 1:13:35So if the child is acting out in a certain way,

1:13:35 > 1:13:38we need to look at - what are the communicating to us?

1:13:38 > 1:13:39What's the trigger?

1:13:39 > 1:13:40What are they trying to tell us?

1:13:40 > 1:13:41Oh, not quite.

1:13:41 > 1:13:42Archie?

1:13:42 > 1:13:44Numbers.

1:13:44 > 1:13:45Oh, not quite!

1:13:45 > 1:13:46Oh, I'm not looking for a shouting out.

1:13:46 > 1:13:49I'm looking for people with their hand up nicely, like Kayden.

1:13:49 > 1:13:50It's...

1:13:50 > 1:13:51Handwriting!

1:13:51 > 1:13:52Yes, another high ten.

1:13:52 > 1:13:54That's ten, and ten, and ten.

1:13:54 > 1:13:55That's 30 for me this morning.

1:13:55 > 1:13:57Right, let's see who is ready.

1:13:57 > 1:13:59The most important thing, we think, is around forming

1:13:59 > 1:14:00attachments with the children.

1:14:00 > 1:14:03So you've got to have an attachment with the child in order

1:14:03 > 1:14:04for them to respond to you.

1:14:04 > 1:14:05What a smashing start.

1:14:05 > 1:14:07Shall we do hand over hand together?

1:14:07 > 1:14:09So you can see what it feels like to write letters.

1:14:09 > 1:14:12And the way you build up attachment is via the relationship

1:14:12 > 1:14:15that you have with them, which comes via putting

1:14:15 > 1:14:20in consistent, firm but fair boundaries.

1:14:20 > 1:14:23Consistency is massive with our children.

1:14:23 > 1:14:28Right, I don't like the way you're speaking to your friends.

1:14:28 > 1:14:29And you still aren't...

1:14:29 > 1:14:30They stole something!

1:14:30 > 1:14:33And you still aren't keeping your hands to yourself.

1:14:33 > 1:14:36And I told you that if you didn't keep your hands to yourself...

1:14:36 > 1:14:37I did.

1:14:37 > 1:14:38I didn't touch him.

1:14:38 > 1:14:41..then you would be leaving and sitting on the time out chair.

1:14:41 > 1:14:43Once they realise that if we say something is going to happen

1:14:43 > 1:14:47on every single occasion, then they start to feel, "OK,

1:14:47 > 1:14:50this person means what they say."

1:14:50 > 1:14:53I need you to make your way over to the time out chair.

1:14:53 > 1:14:57Five, four, three, two,...

1:14:57 > 1:14:58One minute, Jamal.

1:14:58 > 1:15:00One.

1:15:00 > 1:15:02OK, let's go to the time out chair.

1:15:02 > 1:15:10SHE CRIES.

1:15:11 > 1:15:13You're sitting here because...

1:15:13 > 1:15:17I didn't touch him!

1:15:17 > 1:15:19They also start to feel quite safe within those boundaries

1:15:19 > 1:15:26and those constraints.

1:15:27 > 1:15:30You've got all the stickers and you got all the way there,

1:15:30 > 1:15:32so you may choose something from the prize box.

1:15:32 > 1:15:36I am so proud of your behaviour from the last few weeks.

1:15:36 > 1:15:39We are very fair with the children, so they know that if they've done

1:15:39 > 1:15:41something really well, they will get the praise

1:15:41 > 1:15:44and the recognition and all of those things as well,

1:15:44 > 1:15:46and all the attention heaped on.

1:15:46 > 1:15:48A little nerf gun!

1:15:48 > 1:15:49Oh, wow.

1:15:49 > 1:15:51That would be a cool prize, wouldn't it?

1:15:51 > 1:15:55Archie, I'm waiting.

1:15:55 > 1:15:59If a child is sat in front of you and you are talking

1:15:59 > 1:16:01to them from behind, that doesn't work.

1:16:01 > 1:16:04When I am speaking, he mustn't be speaking to somebody else.

1:16:04 > 1:16:08So you need to make sure that you've got eye contact with the Child,

1:16:08 > 1:16:11they don't feel threatened in any way.

1:16:11 > 1:16:13If you interrupt me again, Kayden, you are going to go in the time out

1:16:13 > 1:16:15chair to think about it.

1:16:15 > 1:16:16I don't want that.

1:16:16 > 1:16:19If you think about your tone of voice and your body stance,

1:16:19 > 1:16:20that in itself can be a de-escalation technique.

1:16:20 > 1:16:25But you need to make a good choice and not

1:16:25 > 1:16:26interrupt when I am speaking.

1:16:26 > 1:16:27Do you understand?

1:16:27 > 1:16:29Good boy.

1:16:29 > 1:16:33Unless you're ready, we can't wait for you to join us.

1:16:33 > 1:16:36Now, I need you to open your legs a little bit

1:16:36 > 1:16:37and move your arms away.

1:16:37 > 1:16:38Have you done this before?

1:16:38 > 1:16:39I can tell.

1:16:39 > 1:16:41You are an expert already.

1:16:41 > 1:16:45Humour is another one which works really well with the children,

1:16:45 > 1:16:48because actually, they need to see you and understand you on a human

1:16:48 > 1:16:52level, not just this authoritative figure within a school.

1:16:52 > 1:16:56Let's get started.

1:16:56 > 1:17:02Oh, careful we don't tickle him.

1:17:02 > 1:17:05Tickle, tickle, tickle!

1:17:05 > 1:17:06HE LAUGHS.

1:17:06 > 1:17:09We want him as still as possible.

1:17:09 > 1:17:11We are human beings like they are, so they're very powerful

1:17:11 > 1:17:12techniques as well.

1:17:12 > 1:17:18Under his armpit.

1:17:18 > 1:17:20Well done, Nicholas.

1:17:20 > 1:17:23I'm going to start the time.

1:17:23 > 1:17:26Keep your chair still, otherwise it's unsafe.

1:17:26 > 1:17:28That's not safe.

1:17:28 > 1:17:35We sometimes resort to positive handling,

1:17:35 > 1:17:38to hold the child in a safe way, to keep them and others

1:17:38 > 1:17:39around them safe.

1:17:39 > 1:17:42It is a last resort, but we've all been trained

1:17:42 > 1:17:43in positive handling.

1:17:43 > 1:17:45We have regular training, and if it is used appropriately,

1:17:45 > 1:17:46it is extremely effective.

1:17:46 > 1:17:49And, actually, it sends the message across to the child

1:17:49 > 1:17:49An

1:17:49 > 1:17:52that we can keep you safe.

1:17:52 > 1:17:55It's OK, yes, we know those behaviours are a really big

1:17:55 > 1:17:58and they look really scary, but actually we can look after you.

1:17:58 > 1:18:03We can keep you emotionally and physically safe.

1:18:03 > 1:18:06We're going to wash your hands and we can go

1:18:06 > 1:18:07and have our special Christmas lunch.

1:18:07 > 1:18:09OK?

1:18:09 > 1:18:10Good boy, Nicholas.

1:18:10 > 1:18:12Well done, Nicholas.

1:18:12 > 1:18:15If behaviour is communication, how do we get children

1:18:15 > 1:18:23to communicate using their words rather than using their behaviour?

1:18:24 > 1:18:28Why is it important to listen to all of the words, do you think?

1:18:28 > 1:18:29Archie?

1:18:29 > 1:18:36We use our speech and language therapist to work with all the key

1:18:36 > 1:18:38stage one nurture group children every week.

1:18:38 > 1:18:40Listening is looking at the person who is...

1:18:40 > 1:18:42Talking.

1:18:42 > 1:18:43Talking, and who is talking right now?

1:18:43 > 1:18:46So we should your eyes be?

1:18:46 > 1:18:47I'm looking at you already.

1:18:47 > 1:18:48Fantastic.

1:18:48 > 1:18:51She works with them around communication,

1:18:51 > 1:18:53how to communicate using words, and actually how

1:18:53 > 1:18:58powerful words can be.

1:18:58 > 1:19:00And we find that a lot of our children here aren't able

1:19:00 > 1:19:03to find the words to express themselves when they first come

1:19:03 > 1:19:06here, which is why the do it by their behaviour.

1:19:06 > 1:19:08And done.

1:19:08 > 1:19:11Zachariah, you gave excellent instructions to Austin,

1:19:11 > 1:19:14because he was able to follow your instructions and build the project.

1:19:14 > 1:19:20A success.

1:19:20 > 1:19:23The teachers at the unit say some of the children show some signs

1:19:23 > 1:19:25of having conditions like Attention Deficit

1:19:25 > 1:19:27Hyperactivity Disorder - ADHD - but haven't had

1:19:27 > 1:19:28an official diagnosis.

1:19:28 > 1:19:31For many parents we've met, that's precisely the problem.

1:19:31 > 1:19:33Today, the ADHD Foundation is revealing on this programme that

1:19:33 > 1:19:38they're writing to the government to call for action, because far too

1:19:38 > 1:19:40many children are ending up being excluded because of delays

1:19:40 > 1:19:42in diagnosing underlying conditions.

1:19:42 > 1:19:44Let's speak now to Doctor Tony Lloyd, chief executive

1:19:44 > 1:19:49of the ADHD Foundation.

1:19:49 > 1:19:51hello and thank you for your time.

1:19:51 > 1:19:55hello and thank you for your time. Good morning, Victoria.Why is this

1:19:55 > 1:20:00crucial?On average, it is taking up to two years to have an assessment

1:20:00 > 1:20:07and diagnosis for a child, certainly much longer if you are an adult but

1:20:07 > 1:20:11we are seeing schools under increased pressure and four children

1:20:11 > 1:20:15with ADHD, we have to remember about two thirds of children with ADHD

1:20:15 > 1:20:18will have an additional learning difficulty, the experience of

1:20:18 > 1:20:22learning in a classroom context can be very distressing for these

1:20:22 > 1:20:26children. The longer we had to wait for assessment and diagnosis, the

1:20:26 > 1:20:30greater risk that child will have a very negative experience at school

1:20:30 > 1:20:35and is potentially going to end up excluded. Nine out of ten exclusions

1:20:35 > 1:20:39in primary education are for children with additional needs.

1:20:39 > 1:20:45Really? OK, that is an incredible statistic, if that is accurate. Do

1:20:45 > 1:20:49you have any indication of how many children who are in pupil referral

1:20:49 > 1:20:56units may have undiagnosed conditions. That's a very difficult

1:20:56 > 1:21:00thing to estimate but we would imagine a very significant number.

1:21:00 > 1:21:04For example we know that over 90% of young people involved in the youth

1:21:04 > 1:21:08justice system have a learning difficulty.Clearly we are with a

1:21:08 > 1:21:14vulnerable population of children here. ADHD, autism, dyspraxia,

1:21:14 > 1:21:19dyslexia. It is rare that these conditions are on their own, many

1:21:19 > 1:21:24children will have at least one learning difficulty as well. Daschle

1:21:24 > 1:21:28one additional learning difficulty as well. It can be quite complex.

1:21:28 > 1:21:32There is a real need for much earlier assessment, intervention and

1:21:32 > 1:21:36diagnosis, if that is appropriate. There's quite a lot of

1:21:36 > 1:21:41misunderstanding surrounding ADHD, how would you describe it?ADHD is a

1:21:41 > 1:21:45complex condition really. It isn't just about HT children who are

1:21:45 > 1:21:51hyperactive and cannot concentrate -- about fidgeting children. They

1:21:51 > 1:21:55have a great deal of trouble planning and organising their

1:21:55 > 1:21:59thoughts and actions. We know that one of the most difficult things

1:21:59 > 1:22:04about ADHD is living with this constant low-level anxiety that is

1:22:04 > 1:22:09there all the time. They have very poor sleep patterns, many of them,

1:22:09 > 1:22:13which makes it difficult for them to function and concentrate in school

1:22:13 > 1:22:17the next day. Emotionally it can be quite distressing for many children.

1:22:17 > 1:22:22You can have it in a mild, moderate or severe form. We know there are

1:22:22 > 1:22:25environmental factors like the home and the school which can

1:22:25 > 1:22:28significantly impact on how ADHD presents. With the right schooling,

1:22:28 > 1:22:37we know there are examples of what we see in PR yous, some really good

1:22:37 > 1:22:39teaching and interventions which focus on the child's mental health

1:22:39 > 1:22:46well-being and education -- PRU.Let us know your reply you get from the

1:22:46 > 1:22:50government when you have written to them. Thank you.

1:22:50 > 1:22:52Nearly four months ago, Jeremy Corbyn announced Westminster

1:22:52 > 1:22:55had a "warped and degrading culture" and MPs and others in politics

1:22:55 > 1:22:58who sexually harass women must be held accountable for their actions.

1:22:58 > 1:23:00Now a group of female Labour members have released a report

1:23:00 > 1:23:03which contains dozens of claims of abuse and harassment

1:23:03 > 1:23:08within the party.

1:23:08 > 1:23:11Labour says it is committed to continually improving how it

1:23:11 > 1:23:13handles complaints of harassment, but this isn't a problem

1:23:13 > 1:23:16which affects just one party.

1:23:16 > 1:23:19Today MPs from across the board will debate plans for a new code

1:23:19 > 1:23:21of behaviour for everyone working in Parliament.

1:23:21 > 1:23:24Our reporter Greg Dawson explains:

1:23:24 > 1:23:27In the five months since the flurry of allegations of harassment at

1:23:27 > 1:23:30Westminster first surfaced, there have been a number of investigations

1:23:30 > 1:23:34and some resignations.

1:23:34 > 1:23:36Now MPs from all parties are working through

1:23:36 > 1:23:40plans to change the culture here that allowed abuse.

1:23:40 > 1:23:42Today, though, we are learning about the extent of

1:23:42 > 1:23:45accusations within one of those parties.

1:23:45 > 1:23:48My boss, a Labour MP, raped me.

1:23:48 > 1:23:49I said nothing at the time.

1:23:49 > 1:23:50How could I?

1:23:50 > 1:23:52I would have lost my job.

1:23:52 > 1:23:56I was scared I would lose friends and the support of other

1:23:56 > 1:23:58activists and councillors in my community.

1:23:58 > 1:23:59The LabourToo movement,

1:23:59 > 1:24:02a group of female Labour members have sent a report

1:24:02 > 1:24:03to the party's HQ.

1:24:03 > 1:24:05It details a number of complaints of abuse,

1:24:05 > 1:24:10harassment and discrimination within the party.

1:24:10 > 1:24:13My employer, a male Labour politician, left pornographic

1:24:13 > 1:24:18magazines behind in the office after working late.

1:24:18 > 1:24:21All the female staff and a young female on work

1:24:21 > 1:24:24experience came across them at different times - in a wastepaper

1:24:24 > 1:24:26bin, in a desk or hidden amongst office paperwork.

1:24:26 > 1:24:28It was never raised with him.

1:24:28 > 1:24:31This programme has been shown a number of those

1:24:31 > 1:24:35anonymous complaints.

1:24:35 > 1:24:37All of them are unverified and no date has been

1:24:37 > 1:24:40given to when these incidents may have occurred.

1:24:40 > 1:24:43As an intern, I was sexually harassed by a married male

1:24:43 > 1:24:45MP at a Christmas party.

1:24:45 > 1:24:47He got drunk and I remember he was very red

1:24:47 > 1:24:51in the face and started coming up behind me and stroking my arm.

1:24:51 > 1:24:54I felt really uncomfortable and not able to report it to the Labour

1:24:54 > 1:24:55Party.

1:24:55 > 1:24:58Because the people I had to tell would have known him and wanted

1:24:58 > 1:24:59to protect him.

1:24:59 > 1:25:02A senior party official was very drunk at a

1:25:02 > 1:25:04party conference.

1:25:04 > 1:25:07I got him to his hotel and he said he couldn't remember his

1:25:07 > 1:25:08room number.

1:25:08 > 1:25:11We got to the third floor and found his room after trial

1:25:11 > 1:25:12and error.

1:25:12 > 1:25:16He pushed me down onto the bed and started to kiss and

1:25:16 > 1:25:17grope me.

1:25:17 > 1:25:21I told him, "No," and to stop, but he ignored it.

1:25:21 > 1:25:29LabourToo now want the party to create an

1:25:30 > 1:25:32independent complaint process, including panels made up of people

1:25:32 > 1:25:34with no clear link to the party.

1:25:34 > 1:25:37In response, Labour has told this programme it is committed to

1:25:37 > 1:25:38continually improving how it handles complaints,

1:25:38 > 1:25:41and this report will feed into two ongoing reviews of the

1:25:41 > 1:25:43party's ongoing procedures for dealing with sexual harassment.

1:25:43 > 1:25:45It also points to a number of recent changes,

1:25:45 > 1:25:46including a new hotline for

1:25:46 > 1:25:49members to report complaints.

1:25:49 > 1:25:51All of this comes on the day when MPs will

1:25:51 > 1:25:54debate plans for a new code of behaviour for everyone working in

1:25:54 > 1:25:56Parliament and a new complaints investigation system, independent of

1:25:56 > 1:26:01political parties.

1:26:01 > 1:26:03In the most severe cases, MPs can be suspended

1:26:03 > 1:26:11or be forced to face a public vote on their future.

1:26:12 > 1:26:15Let's talk to Labour MP Stella Creasy - who is a supporter

1:26:15 > 1:26:18of the Labour Too campaign, which was set up after the MeToo

1:26:18 > 1:26:26scandal in Hollywood.

1:26:26 > 1:26:27And Jane Merrick - former political editor

1:26:27 > 1:26:30of the Independent on Sunday, who went public about

1:26:30 > 1:26:31being harassed by former Defence Secretary Michael Fallon

1:26:31 > 1:26:33actually when she worked at the Daily Mail.

1:26:33 > 1:26:36Mr Fallon was forced to leave his role because of

1:26:36 > 1:26:37the allegations made against him.

1:26:37 > 1:26:41How do you react to these 43 women who have spoken up about what has

1:26:41 > 1:26:45happened to them?First of all I want to say thank you. To them for

1:26:45 > 1:26:49being brave enough to come forward and use this forum to report what

1:26:49 > 1:26:54has happened. This isn't about witch hunting individual people but to

1:26:54 > 1:26:58show systematic failings we have in safeguarding people in our party at

1:26:58 > 1:27:01all levels. Brilliant volunteers and campaigners who make the party what

1:27:01 > 1:27:04it is at its best but we're letting them down right now because we do

1:27:04 > 1:27:11not have processes to deal with those people who make us our worst.

1:27:11 > 1:27:14I was heartbroken to read the systematic list of what has been

1:27:14 > 1:27:18happening and I was struck by the concept of common knowledge that it

1:27:18 > 1:27:21talks about, when some of these women tried to report what happened,

1:27:21 > 1:27:25people would say, we know about him, and gave them tips on how to deal

1:27:25 > 1:27:29with it rather than stopping it. One of the things we are on a crusade

1:27:29 > 1:27:42about is that we do not have to cope with this, but we have to say.

1:27:43 > 1:27:44with this, but we have to say.On some occasions, women were told not

1:27:44 > 1:27:51to say anything because it may damage the reputation of the party

1:27:51 > 1:27:56all be quiet, don't even go to the police?That's why the women's

1:27:56 > 1:27:59Parliamentary Labour Party have supported the group and said they

1:27:59 > 1:28:03need a completely independent process. So that you take

1:28:03 > 1:28:06friendships and career options out of any of these conversations. It is

1:28:06 > 1:28:10about behaviour and how it is tackled and how you stop it. Does it

1:28:10 > 1:28:14damage the party? It damages everyone, it is across society. I

1:28:14 > 1:28:18was up to school this morning speaking to girls about how we

1:28:18 > 1:28:22tackle sexual harassment. The sad truth is in 2018 it is still an

1:28:22 > 1:28:27unequal society and people think they have the power to abuse others.

1:28:27 > 1:28:32Why has this been going on?Sexual harassment and assault is about

1:28:32 > 1:28:36power, it isn't about sex. It happens across society, it is a

1:28:36 > 1:28:43place where power is hard currency. In Westminster. People can get away

1:28:43 > 1:28:48with it because they get away with quite a lot.When Michael Fallon

1:28:48 > 1:28:52resigned as Defence Secretary, he said "What had been acceptable 10-15

1:28:52 > 1:28:56years ago is clearly not acceptable now". You disagreed with the

1:28:56 > 1:29:00statement anyway but you have worked as a political journalist for nearly

1:29:00 > 1:29:03two decades. How do you think attitudes have changed in that time,

1:29:03 > 1:29:07or are they only just changing?I think they are only just changing

1:29:07 > 1:29:15now. This only happened to me once but I am aware of colleagues and

1:29:15 > 1:29:18others who this has happened to. Of course it is still happening now and

1:29:18 > 1:29:21like Stella I am completely shocked by the report today. I think there

1:29:21 > 1:29:25will be a change, I think people are now starting to talk about it. We

1:29:25 > 1:29:29will not tolerate this behaviour any more. Steps will be taken, I wonder

1:29:29 > 1:29:33why Krakow I have reservations about whether the steps will be foreigner

1:29:33 > 1:29:37but we will not tolerate it any more -- I wonder, I still have

1:29:37 > 1:29:44reservations. I was verified by the stories that I was being told, women

1:29:44 > 1:29:48were contacting me by Diem on Twitter, they were telling me about

1:29:48 > 1:30:00sexual assault by politicians -- DM. I had to refer them to other people,

1:30:00 > 1:30:05and I had to refer them to Labour because a lot of it involved Labour

1:30:05 > 1:30:07politicians.You want someone independent where people can make

1:30:07 > 1:30:12complaints and be heard. MPs are debating the cross-party report

1:30:12 > 1:30:15which will try and clamp down on bullying and harassment in

1:30:15 > 1:30:21Parliament. You say you have reservations, why?I do think that

1:30:21 > 1:30:26there are some gaps there. The independent process, it is great

1:30:26 > 1:30:29there will be an independent system for people working in Parliament but

1:30:29 > 1:30:33it only applies to those who have been harassed or assaulted,

1:30:33 > 1:30:37Parliamentary pass holders.So if it happens in a pub or at a social

1:30:37 > 1:30:42event, it would not be...?Yes, that's where a lot of the behaviour

1:30:42 > 1:30:46goes on according to the report. It is a party conference, you don't

1:30:46 > 1:30:50need to be a pass holder to be sexually harassed by an MP so I have

1:30:50 > 1:30:55concerns it will fall through the gaps.Your reaction?It has two fit

1:30:55 > 1:31:00with what political parties do to keep volunteers say. My concern is

1:31:00 > 1:31:04ultimately, what happens when we find someone who has behaved

1:31:04 > 1:31:07inappropriately? House of Commons staff will lose their jobs

1:31:07 > 1:31:11currently, and we are not there on the concept of recall, with the

1:31:11 > 1:31:15opportunity for the public to say if their MP has done something

1:31:15 > 1:31:20inappropriate, they don't want them to be their MP any more. I don't

1:31:20 > 1:31:24want to send a woman to speak to them about a constituency matter

1:31:24 > 1:31:27knowing that this has happened. Recall is a final piece of the

1:31:27 > 1:31:30puzzle. We have definitely made progress and change is possible but

1:31:30 > 1:31:33it is not certain into would get the whole system right and it includes

1:31:33 > 1:31:38independence but also clear sanctions.Thank you to both of you.

1:31:38 > 1:31:43Thank you for coming onto the programme.

1:31:43 > 1:31:46The top police officer in charge of catching Britain's paedophiles -

1:31:46 > 1:31:48Chief Constable Simon Bailey - has told this programme

1:31:48 > 1:31:49there are potentially 20,000 paedophiles in Britain.

1:31:49 > 1:31:52I think 20,000 is probably a conservative estimate.

1:31:52 > 1:31:54So, what, double that?

1:31:54 > 1:31:59I'm not sure that's trying to put a figure on it and gain a headline

1:31:59 > 1:32:01is actually helpful.

1:32:01 > 1:32:05I'm just trying to, I'm actually just trying to understand the scale

1:32:05 > 1:32:07of it in this country.

1:32:07 > 1:32:09The scale of it is huge.

1:32:09 > 1:32:11There's absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever,

1:32:11 > 1:32:14I think it's one of the greatest threats that we currently face

1:32:14 > 1:32:17from a policing perspective.

1:32:17 > 1:32:25And you only have to look at the activities taking place

1:32:27 > 1:32:29across the country every single day, dealing with reports

1:32:29 > 1:32:31of non-recent abuse, dealing with reports of familial

1:32:31 > 1:32:33abuse which is still by far the greatest volume of abuse

1:32:33 > 1:32:36that we take, but then looking at how we meet the challenges

1:32:36 > 1:32:40of the abuse that is being perpetrated through digital

1:32:40 > 1:32:44technology, and the increasing volumes that we have to deal

1:32:44 > 1:32:48with and the changing face of that.

1:32:48 > 1:32:51We are now having to deal with an emerging threat where live

1:32:51 > 1:32:56streaming platforms are affording men and on occasions women

1:32:56 > 1:33:04the opportunity to then seek to groom children.

1:33:06 > 1:33:12Chief Constable Simon Bailey. At this Tweet, listening and the

1:33:12 > 1:33:15numbers are terrifying, how should we open dialogue with our children

1:33:15 > 1:33:22without scaring them? If you go to the NSPCC website, they have got a

1:33:22 > 1:33:24brilliant campaign, called Pants, they give you advice and suggestions

1:33:24 > 1:33:29and tips on how you can talk to your children which starts with you

1:33:29 > 1:33:33speaking to your children about the fact that their pants are private.

1:33:33 > 1:33:36That's the start of the conversation. This e-mail is from

1:33:36 > 1:33:39someone who does not wish to leave their name, which is absolutely

1:33:39 > 1:33:44fine. This person was watching Simon Bailey. I am now in my 60s and I

1:33:44 > 1:33:48finally got up the courage to report the sexual abuse over a two-year

1:33:48 > 1:33:51period that I suffered as a nine-year-old at the hands of a

1:33:51 > 1:33:56neighbour. I was so grateful that the police officers listened to me,

1:33:56 > 1:34:02recorded and attempted to locate this while man. Unfortunately they

1:34:02 > 1:34:11were unable to do so. But for me this was stepping

1:34:11 > 1:34:14this was stepping trying to overcome what happened to me. I did all I

1:34:14 > 1:34:21could to protect my own children and I feel for parents who have to do so

1:34:21 > 1:34:24in the much harsher environment.

1:34:24 > 1:34:27The Beast from the East has started to bite with temperatures tumbling

1:34:27 > 1:34:29to as low as minus 12 degrees in some parts overnight -

1:34:29 > 1:34:32the lowest for this time of year since 1991.

1:34:32 > 1:34:34The accompanying snow and ice has forced hundreds of schools to close

1:34:34 > 1:34:37and there has been major travel disruption on roads,

1:34:37 > 1:34:38rail and flights have been grounded.

1:34:38 > 1:34:41And forecasters say the worst is yet to come, with warnings

1:34:41 > 1:34:42in place until the weekend.

1:34:42 > 1:34:45in place until the weekend.

1:34:45 > 1:34:52Tell us the situation, Mr Connelly, if you would.You can probably see

1:34:52 > 1:34:55some of the scenes behind us, the severe weather that we're receiving

1:34:55 > 1:35:01here just now. Were only four and a half hours into 36 hour Amber

1:35:01 > 1:35:05warning, so we are just at the start of this. For those of us who've

1:35:05 > 1:35:09ventured out this morning, really they have got to be careful to make

1:35:09 > 1:35:16sure that they can go home, and avoid travel during the amber

1:35:16 > 1:35:20warning. We really don't want to on the road at all, putting yourself at

1:35:20 > 1:35:25risk.So no one go out and as they really have to?We're avoiding

1:35:25 > 1:35:31avoiding travelling. If you're going out there, expect some sort of

1:35:31 > 1:35:35disruption. The weather we're experiencing, there are incidents

1:35:35 > 1:35:42and accidents happening around the place. We have got our gritters out

1:35:42 > 1:35:45there to try give the roads open but you plough and it turns white behind

1:35:45 > 1:35:51you. It's the amber weather alert that the Met Office can put out so

1:35:51 > 1:35:57it's very challenging.So we're told the West -- worse is yet to come so

1:35:57 > 1:36:03what is your advice for motorists? Heed the warnings, at the moment

1:36:03 > 1:36:07Strathclyde Police Scotland are putting out the message, avoid

1:36:07 > 1:36:12trouble in the area of the amber alert. If you are travelling out

1:36:12 > 1:36:18with, it's still a high risk of disruption, you're at risk of

1:36:18 > 1:36:22putting yourself at risk and being stranded. So heed the warnings. If

1:36:22 > 1:36:24you have to go out, plan your journey and make sure you're ready

1:36:24 > 1:36:31for the journey. If you do get stranded, make sure you have a

1:36:31 > 1:36:38blanket, food and water and that you are prepared.

1:36:40 > 1:36:45Breaking news now, and Maplin has now just gone bust. half thousand

1:36:45 > 1:36:48jobs at risk. This is half an hour after the news we brought you about

1:36:48 > 1:36:56Toys R Us, they have too gone bust this morning. 3200 jobs at risk but

1:36:56 > 1:37:06the electrical retailer Maplin has collapsed and 2500 jobs at risk.

1:37:06 > 1:37:11Most come at 11am! . Roger Moore to come at

1:37:14 > 1:37:26-- more to come at 11am. There has been an internal review in a charity

1:37:26 > 1:37:30after a complaint from a former employee. The chair of trustees at

1:37:30 > 1:37:35the charity has also been criticised. The error foundation is

1:37:35 > 1:37:42now facing insolvency proceedings. This exclusive report now.

1:37:42 > 1:37:46The Mira foundation is a charity working with women who have

1:37:46 > 1:37:52experienced domestic violence and abuse. We have lots of strategy and

1:37:52 > 1:37:55enthusiasm... She was the founder of the charity

1:37:55 > 1:38:00set up to protect and vulnerable -- protect vulnerable women. Another

1:38:00 > 1:38:05charity says that she has been suspended as CEO after the trustees

1:38:05 > 1:38:08of into allegations of financial irregularities. She worked for the

1:38:08 > 1:38:16Amirah Foundation. She called in the charity trustees after spotting bank

1:38:16 > 1:38:21statements which she said showed unusually large sums for rental

1:38:21 > 1:38:24payments.A lot of these women and children are the ones who would slip

1:38:24 > 1:38:29through the net, if we like. So we would be dealing with people who may

1:38:29 > 1:38:34not have access to public funds, they may come with all sorts of

1:38:34 > 1:38:38complex needs. There are entitled to a good quality support. And if we

1:38:38 > 1:38:42have donors who are coming forward with the aim of supporting these

1:38:42 > 1:38:46vulnerable people, that's where the money should be going as far as I'm

1:38:46 > 1:38:51concerned.The trustees of the charity, based here in Sparkbrook,

1:38:51 > 1:38:54have now released their initial view on the allegations raised by the

1:38:54 > 1:39:03complaint. They include that the director on occasion paid herself a

1:39:03 > 1:39:11full wage more than months in a month, and thousands of donations

1:39:11 > 1:39:16were never donated. Another woman, chair of the trustees, has also been

1:39:16 > 1:39:21criticised by the trustees. They say money was still being paid to a

1:39:21 > 1:39:24company registered in her name two years after it was dissolved. The

1:39:24 > 1:39:28trustees say neither women cooperated with their review.I

1:39:28 > 1:39:33think the question that I did asks were question around accountability.

1:39:33 > 1:39:37At the same time, you have to understand that there is a level of

1:39:37 > 1:39:43trust that any organisation will give to the CEO. What you got to

1:39:43 > 1:39:48remember is that when this information has come to light, I've

1:39:48 > 1:39:50gone to the police, sought the advice of the police, I've not tried

1:39:50 > 1:39:55to hide it. I've got no interest in train to hide it. I am keen to be

1:39:55 > 1:40:01called into court to show that everything I have.Imran worked as a

1:40:01 > 1:40:04graphic designer for Amirah Foundation for more than three

1:40:04 > 1:40:08years. He says he was fired after raising concerns with the CEO about

1:40:08 > 1:40:14the charity's financial dealings. She was adamant that I had embedded

1:40:14 > 1:40:18microphones and cameras into her desk, I had tapped telephone, and

1:40:18 > 1:40:24she refused to sit at her desk, that's how paranoid she was that

1:40:24 > 1:40:27someone was try to get information out of her.I have made several

1:40:27 > 1:40:31attempts to contact both women for comment without success. And there's

1:40:31 > 1:40:38no answer at the offices either. In the last few years, they received as

1:40:38 > 1:40:45much as £100,000 in grants from a number of organisations, including

1:40:45 > 1:40:48the lottery fund, the Lloyds bank foundation and the policing crime

1:40:48 > 1:40:52commission. But by the time this investigation began, the charities

1:40:52 > 1:40:58accounts were overdrawn by £68. The allegations are now with the City of

1:40:58 > 1:41:03London Police National fraud intelligence era.It was never my

1:41:03 > 1:41:06intention to become a whistle-blower, my intention was to

1:41:06 > 1:41:09do what I thought was right and that's what I've done. It may not be

1:41:09 > 1:41:14right in the eyes of some of the people but for me, it feels right

1:41:14 > 1:41:19and the truth is on my side, what more can I say?The work with

1:41:19 > 1:41:23domestic violence victims has been taken over by another charity. The

1:41:23 > 1:41:28foundation itself is now insolvent. And a meeting of creditors will take

1:41:28 > 1:41:32place tomorrow.

1:41:32 > 1:41:37You can see more on this story on Midlands today this evening.

1:41:37 > 1:41:42Most cannabis being sold illegally in the UK is super-strength skunk -

1:41:42 > 1:41:47according to a new analysis of samples by the police.

1:41:47 > 1:41:50This highly potent type of the drug is linked to a higher risk

1:41:50 > 1:41:55of psychotic mental health episodes.

1:41:55 > 1:41:57We can speak now to Jason Pegler who began smoking

1:41:57 > 1:42:02cannabis at 14 and went on to suffer from mental health problems.

1:42:02 > 1:42:06He's also the author A Can of Madness.

1:42:06 > 1:42:08And the report's author, Dr Marta di Forti from

1:42:08 > 1:42:14King's College London.

1:42:14 > 1:42:18Just tell our audience exactly what you found, first of all.Good

1:42:18 > 1:42:25morning, Victoria. As you said, we analysed 1000 samples seized by

1:42:25 > 1:42:30British police, and we found that 94% of the sample were represented

1:42:30 > 1:42:37by what we call skunk, which is a kind of cannabis which we regard as

1:42:37 > 1:42:46potent as it contains a high percentage of THC, which is the

1:42:46 > 1:42:50ingredient responsible for the psychotic symptoms related to

1:42:50 > 1:42:54cannabis. We did not find that the potency of skunk has gone up if we

1:42:54 > 1:42:59prepare it to the Home Office study of 2008, and another study published

1:42:59 > 1:43:05at the same time. So we're talking about a skunk with an average THC of

1:43:05 > 1:43:0914% it is potent enough.Potent enough to do what, potentially, link

1:43:09 > 1:43:16to what?Potent enough to lead to the area of my concerned, I'm a

1:43:16 > 1:43:23psychiatrist, so we have shown that those who use skunk of this type of

1:43:23 > 1:43:29potency daily have a fivefold increase in the risk of getting a

1:43:29 > 1:43:33psychotic disorder, not transient symptoms, but people coming to the

1:43:33 > 1:43:40attention of mental health services. And we have shown that this type of

1:43:40 > 1:43:42skunk, high potency cannabis, is also more likely to reduce

1:43:42 > 1:43:49dependence with all the correlates of this issue of individual and

1:43:49 > 1:43:54services on society.Let me bring in Jason, thank you for talking to us.

1:43:54 > 1:43:57Do you think the cannabis that you have smoked, and I know it's varied

1:43:57 > 1:44:02in strength over the years, contributed to your mental health

1:44:02 > 1:44:07problems?Yes, this is a very long time ago, in the 1990s when I was a

1:44:07 > 1:44:15teenager. But from the age of 14 to 17, I took various types of cannabis

1:44:15 > 1:44:23and the skunk was definitely very strong. I've been publishing people

1:44:23 > 1:44:28with mental illness for 17 years and I've definitely found cases of

1:44:28 > 1:44:34people who we have published have just taken cannabis and it set a

1:44:34 > 1:44:38manic depression, schizophrenia and it also leads to people taking other

1:44:38 > 1:44:43types of drugs and breaking the law. Overall, skunk is definitely

1:44:43 > 1:44:46dangerous.Yet some people are still sceptical about the link between

1:44:46 > 1:44:56skunk and mental health disorders. Well, from my own experience, many

1:44:56 > 1:45:00years ago, it definitely lead to a different state of mind and

1:45:00 > 1:45:04something that I would definitely not want my own children

1:45:04 > 1:45:10experiencing.How would you describe that different state of mind, Jason?

1:45:10 > 1:45:17At the time, it was something that made me definitely... More high

1:45:17 > 1:45:23terms and it lets two, after stopping taking it, it led to

1:45:23 > 1:45:28paranoia which nobody wants and more worried someone gets, the more

1:45:28 > 1:45:32likely they are to step into a mental breakdown as opposed to being

1:45:32 > 1:45:36mentally well.

1:45:36 > 1:45:40And what you think about those who are sceptical about the links that

1:45:40 > 1:45:47you have been pointing out today, Doctor?If they're enough to say

1:45:47 > 1:45:52that not everyone who uses cannabis will get a psychotic disorder, it is

1:45:52 > 1:45:57about identifying those who are at risk and experience what you are

1:45:57 > 1:46:01describing. These are people I see in my clinic every Thursday. There

1:46:01 > 1:46:06has been a lot of comment about this this morning. People who say that

1:46:06 > 1:46:10skunk is not dangerous and it is actually a medicine. I do hope that

1:46:10 > 1:46:14one day we will get to a point where it is very clear about how you can

1:46:14 > 1:46:22exploit safely the medicinal properties of cannabis ingredients

1:46:22 > 1:46:26like THC, but we also need to be aware of the consequences of

1:46:26 > 1:46:33uncontrolled recreational use, which is what most teenagers do. I don't

1:46:33 > 1:46:37think teenagers use cannabis for medicinal purposes. These are the

1:46:37 > 1:46:41casualties I see. If you are interested in the potential side of

1:46:41 > 1:46:45cannabis use, without undermining the possibility that we can actually

1:46:45 > 1:46:51use cannabis in a benign way.And on social media, as you know, you have

1:46:51 > 1:46:55been accused of making your living out of scaring people out of using

1:46:55 > 1:47:03skunk?Yes, and I do make a living out of researching the effective

1:47:03 > 1:47:06skunk so I wouldn't necessarily say it is a wrong comment but what I

1:47:06 > 1:47:11don't think is fair to say is that my intent is to scare people. One

1:47:11 > 1:47:16analogy I give to my young patients in the clinic is about aspirin.

1:47:16 > 1:47:22Aspirin is the most commonly prescribed medication supported by

1:47:22 > 1:47:26the foundation and I am one of those people who looks at the gastric

1:47:26 > 1:47:31bleeding that you can get if you use aspirin in an uncontrolled manner.

1:47:31 > 1:47:36That doesn't mean that you cannot use it safely. Maybe I am making my

1:47:36 > 1:47:39life out of research and the consequences of using cannabis in

1:47:39 > 1:47:48general that is an especially high potency but this is for those

1:47:48 > 1:47:52experiencing such symptoms like psychosis.Thank you to both of you

1:47:52 > 1:47:52for

1:47:52 > 1:47:58coming in this morning. Let me read this e-mail about

1:47:58 > 1:48:02someone with ADHD. I was finally diagnosed with ADHD at

1:48:02 > 1:48:08the age of 53. The path to diagnosis was very difficult and as most

1:48:08 > 1:48:12people diagnosed in adulthood will tell you, it's common to encounter

1:48:12 > 1:48:15GPs and even psychiatrists who misunderstand ADHD and some who

1:48:15 > 1:48:19believe it doesn't actually exist. It's a spectrum condition that can

1:48:19 > 1:48:24vary in how it presents and that may also be an obstacle to accurate

1:48:24 > 1:48:30diagnosis. I'm taking a medication that has transformed my life. It is

1:48:30 > 1:48:33important children are diagnosed early and it is vital that medical

1:48:33 > 1:48:38staff are trained so they have a good understanding of adult ADHD.

1:48:38 > 1:48:43We are talking about this because the ADHD Foundation said they are

1:48:43 > 1:48:47writing to the government to say that diagnosis of children needs to

1:48:47 > 1:48:51be speeded up and is as important as children are being excluded. Before

1:48:51 > 1:48:55diagnosis. And it is impacting their lives. Sarah has Ema but it took

1:48:55 > 1:49:01them until her daughter was 15 to get her diagnosed with ADHD and it

1:49:01 > 1:49:04has affected the whole family as coping with her behaviour was

1:49:04 > 1:49:08unbearable at times and they had no support. Thank you very much for

1:49:08 > 1:49:10those. Thank you.

1:49:10 > 1:49:13Earlier on the programme we told you about the collapse of Toys R Us.

1:49:13 > 1:49:16Now we have news about another high street retailer Maplin.

1:49:16 > 1:49:19Simon Gompertz is back with us.

1:49:19 > 1:49:28Sorry! Bearer of bad news this morning. Maplin has also said that

1:49:28 > 1:49:34they have gone into administration, that's the every day way of saying

1:49:34 > 1:49:38they have gone bust. Efforts to save it as the existing company have

1:49:38 > 1:49:42failed. Nobody has come in to say that they want to own it or buy it

1:49:42 > 1:49:46as the existing company. It doesn't mean that hope has ended. The

1:49:46 > 1:49:50accountants will come in to run it and they will also try and sell off

1:49:50 > 1:49:54bits of the business to see if they can keep those going and if they can

1:49:54 > 1:49:58raise money for the creditors. It doesn't necessarily mean that

1:49:58 > 1:50:03everything closes. That's the situation at the moment. Hopefully

1:50:03 > 1:50:10the 2500 employees of Maplin have a future, or some of them do but we

1:50:10 > 1:50:14will not know until the accountants have their knees under the table and

1:50:14 > 1:50:17try and see what they can do with the business. The optimistic side of

1:50:17 > 1:50:20it is that there were some people hovering around, looking to see

1:50:20 > 1:50:25whether they may be interested in buying the business. It does have

1:50:25 > 1:50:28attractions. It is the only electronics retailer doing it sort

1:50:28 > 1:50:33of thing on a wide scale around the UK so it does have that value.

1:50:33 > 1:50:37Sometimes, they wait. The people who are interested, in till the company

1:50:37 > 1:50:45goes bust and then they buy the bits that they want.Simon, thank you.

1:50:47 > 1:50:52The police officer in charge of catching Britain's paedophiles,

1:50:52 > 1:50:57Simon Bailey, has told us that there are potentially 20,000 paedophiles

1:50:57 > 1:51:01operating in Britain.If you look at increasing numbers of reports and

1:51:01 > 1:51:04crimes we are recording, whilst I am certain that victim confidence is

1:51:04 > 1:51:08having a lock to do with that increase, I cannot help but think

1:51:08 > 1:51:13that volumes of levels of abuse are increasing and I think so much of

1:51:13 > 1:51:17this is being driven by the World Wide Web, and if you look at the

1:51:17 > 1:51:22action at law enforcement is taking place across the country, targeting

1:51:22 > 1:51:27those people that are viewing indecent images of children, we are

1:51:27 > 1:51:31arresting 430 men every month. We are safeguarding 700 children every

1:51:31 > 1:51:35month. That is just for those offenders viewing indecent images,

1:51:35 > 1:51:40it does not take into consideration what I believe the tens of thousands

1:51:40 > 1:51:44of men predominantly going online to green children so they provide them

1:51:44 > 1:51:48with a sexualised image, or they encourage them to perform a sex act

1:51:48 > 1:51:53or alternatively they tried to meet them to then rape them.

1:51:53 > 1:52:00Unfortunately, I think we have to look at it from a societal

1:52:00 > 1:52:03perspective and we have two now consider that there are more

1:52:03 > 1:52:07opportunities to abuse, and that could be on the increase.How many

1:52:07 > 1:52:13potential child abusers do you think there are in Britain? On the is

1:52:13 > 1:52:17difficult to put a number on it and I think it would potentially be

1:52:17 > 1:52:21unhelpful. Sorry to interrupt, you've said you are arresting 438

1:52:21 > 1:52:27men every month. And that is just for viewing indecent images?That is

1:52:27 > 1:52:30correct, I think we have to accept that there are tens of thousands.

1:52:30 > 1:52:36But the most important thing from my perspective is that unfortunately

1:52:36 > 1:52:40the focus has been on the police service and what I believe has been

1:52:40 > 1:52:43a very strong response to the thread but ultimately, Victoria, every time

1:52:43 > 1:52:49we make an arrest, the damage has already been done and we have to

1:52:49 > 1:52:59look at how we can prevent the abuse in the first

1:53:01 > 1:53:01in the first place

1:53:01 > 1:53:03Let's cross to Central London where the Meghan Markle

1:53:03 > 1:53:06is with her fiance Prince Harry alongside the Duke and Duchess of

1:53:06 > 1:53:08Cambridge for their their official engagement together.

1:53:08 > 1:53:10the Royal family have always dedicated a substantial part of

1:53:10 > 1:53:12their working life to charity and The Royal Foundation is a

1:53:12 > 1:53:15continuation of this tradition. From the outset the principals wanted to

1:53:15 > 1:53:19work in a way that would enable them to have as big an impact as possible

1:53:19 > 1:53:23so that they could change mindsets and make a lasting difference. Now,

1:53:23 > 1:53:26to tell us more about this approach, please welcome his Royal Highness

1:53:26 > 1:53:37the Duke of Cambridge.APPLAUSE Tina, thank you. Good morning

1:53:37 > 1:53:44everybody. Catherine, Harry and I are delighted to be here this

1:53:44 > 1:53:47morning and we are particularly happy. It has been our first Royal

1:53:47 > 1:53:55foundation event with Meghan. APPLAUSE

1:53:55 > 1:54:01Today, it's a very special day for us. Since 2011, when we established

1:54:01 > 1:54:04the foundation, we have regularly brought people together under the