0:00:06 > 0:00:08Hello, it's Thursday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
0:00:08 > 0:00:16Welcome to the programme.
0:00:16 > 0:00:17Our top story...
0:00:17 > 0:00:20The mystery substance that left a former Russian spy critically ill
0:00:20 > 0:00:21is finally identified.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23It was a nerve agent that put Sergei Skripal,
0:00:23 > 0:00:25his daughter, Yulia, and a police officer in hospital.
0:00:25 > 0:00:32They are fighting for their lives.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35We're talking to a man who is considered Vladimir Putin's
0:00:35 > 0:00:37number one enemy - who says he has to take steps
0:00:37 > 0:00:38to protect his own life.
0:00:38 > 0:00:43I do not spend my life living in fear but I have to take great
0:00:43 > 0:00:49precautions so they do not kill me. You say that so matter-of-factly,
0:00:49 > 0:00:56wow.I have been living with it for years.
0:00:56 > 0:00:58All you single women, does this man look like
0:00:58 > 0:01:00an eligible bachelor to you?
0:01:00 > 0:01:02He's got a great online profile, but he's not only
0:01:02 > 0:01:03married, he's also gay.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05And his identity has been stolen by scammers,
0:01:05 > 0:01:07who lure women in and then ask them for money.
0:01:07 > 0:01:12We'll be talking to the real Steve Bustin in a few minutes.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15And we've got exclusive figures on a rise in the number of women
0:01:15 > 0:01:18from Northern Ireland travelling to England for an abortion
0:01:18 > 0:01:23since the Government announced they would no longer have to pay.
0:01:23 > 0:01:26But campaigners say more needs to be done to help women from the country
0:01:26 > 0:01:34who want a termination.
0:01:37 > 0:01:38Hello, welcome to the programme.
0:01:38 > 0:01:44We're live until 11 this morning.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48As we are each weekday. After 10am, we will talk about new proposals
0:01:48 > 0:01:53from the Home Secretary, amber Rudd, which she and the Prime Minister
0:01:53 > 0:01:59publishing today to tackle domestic abuse in the future. Some of the new
0:01:59 > 0:02:03areas consulted on include tagging suspects or banning them from
0:02:03 > 0:02:08drinking. And also recognising in the definition of domestic abuse
0:02:08 > 0:02:18that it can be economic abuse, as well as physical and psychological.
0:02:19 > 0:02:25If you have experienced domestic abuse or you are a perpetrator, we
0:02:25 > 0:02:37would like to hear from you. Do get in touch. You can e-mail us, message
0:02:37 > 0:02:43us on Facebook or Twitter.
0:02:43 > 0:02:44Our top story today...
0:02:44 > 0:02:46The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is due
0:02:46 > 0:02:49to make a statement this morning in the House of Commons
0:02:49 > 0:02:52about the nerve agent used in the attempted murder of a former
0:02:52 > 0:02:53Russian spy and his daughter.
0:02:53 > 0:02:55While police have now identified the type of chemical,
0:02:55 > 0:02:58it's not yet known where it was made or who could have
0:02:58 > 0:02:59carried out the attack.
0:02:59 > 0:03:00Tom Burridge has more.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02This was Sergei Skripal last month at a corner shop.
0:03:02 > 0:03:10Now police believe someone tried to kill the former spy
0:03:10 > 0:03:12and his daughter with a nerve agent.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14It happened here in the small cathedral city of Salisbury.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17A police officer who attended to the pair now also in a serious
0:03:17 > 0:03:19condition in hospital.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22What nerve agent was used is the question experts
0:03:22 > 0:03:30at this military research centre are trying to answer.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33Nerve agents essentially cripple the nervous system of the body
0:03:33 > 0:03:34and are not easy to manufacture.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37Nerve agents require a non-insignificant financial,
0:03:37 > 0:03:41logistical and technical back-up to actually be manufactured.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43And so that would lead to more likelihood
0:03:43 > 0:03:47of a state manufacturing it.
0:03:47 > 0:03:53Life in Salisbury right now is anything but normal,
0:03:53 > 0:03:56this is the restaurant where Mr Skripal and his daughter
0:03:56 > 0:03:57had lunch hours before they fell ill.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00A blond woman and a man could be of interest,
0:04:00 > 0:04:07seen in this CCTV footage from near the crime scene.
0:04:07 > 0:04:08His daughter apparently had dark hair, like in this photo.
0:04:08 > 0:04:10They are both in a critical condition in hospital.
0:04:10 > 0:04:16Tom Burridge, BBC News.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21Ahead of her statement in the Commons, Amber Rudd, Home Secretary,
0:04:21 > 0:04:27had this to say this morning in an interview with BBC Breakfast.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30This was a very serious incident which is why we've got the police
0:04:30 > 0:04:32down there in full force conducting the investigation.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35Which is why we're giving all the support we can,
0:04:35 > 0:04:37the medical support necessary, to the people who've been affected.
0:04:37 > 0:04:39Of course I'm very concerned about the policeman.
0:04:39 > 0:04:41I would observe that our Chief Medical Officer Sally Davis
0:04:41 > 0:04:45has said that the risk to the public is low, so I would urge the public
0:04:45 > 0:04:47to take comfort from that.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50We have been ready for a while for a number of different types
0:04:50 > 0:04:55of terrorist activity and we are making sure that we give
0:04:55 > 0:04:58the public the support, that we contain the incident
0:04:58 > 0:05:01and that we collect the evidence so that when we come to attribution,
0:05:01 > 0:05:07we will know what to do.
0:05:07 > 0:05:10Our correspondent, Leila Nathoo, is in Salisbury.
0:05:10 > 0:05:14What's the latest?
0:05:14 > 0:05:20We know that counterterror police are saying this is a rare nerve
0:05:20 > 0:05:26agent used in Salisbury to specifically target Sergei and Yulia
0:05:26 > 0:05:29Skripal who were found unconscious on the bench that remains under the
0:05:29 > 0:05:34police tent behind me. This narrows down somewhat the possibilities in
0:05:34 > 0:05:38terms of who would be able to manufacture the nerve agent. We have
0:05:38 > 0:05:42not got the details yet on exactly what the substances but police do
0:05:42 > 0:05:49know. We also know that a policeman, one of the first on the scene here,
0:05:49 > 0:05:56was hospitalised. They were also exposed to the substance. The Home
0:05:56 > 0:06:00Secretary, Amber Rudd, said this morning he was engaging in talking
0:06:00 > 0:06:04but he is still believed to be in a serious condition. As far as the
0:06:04 > 0:06:10scene in Salisbury goes, you can see the cordon at the scene, still in
0:06:10 > 0:06:15place, and another cordon at a nearby pub, the Mill, and another at
0:06:15 > 0:06:20our high-street Italian restaurant, Zizzi restaurant, closed since
0:06:20 > 0:06:27Monday. The BBC has heard from the eyewitness on Sunday afternoon at
0:06:27 > 0:06:29Zizzi restaurant when police believe Sergei and Yulia Skripal went to the
0:06:29 > 0:06:33restaurant for lunch and the eyewitness has told the BBC he was
0:06:33 > 0:06:38behaving strangely at the restaurant at around 1:30pm, shouting and he
0:06:38 > 0:06:42left abruptly. The focus for police now is trying to piece together the
0:06:42 > 0:06:47timeline of what happened to Sergei and Yulia Skripal when they came to
0:06:47 > 0:06:50the city centre on Sunday afternoon. They are appealing for anyone in the
0:06:50 > 0:06:58area from 1pm on Sunday who may have been at Zizzi restaurant or the pub,
0:06:58 > 0:07:00the Mill, to come forward if they spotted anything out of the
0:07:00 > 0:07:07ordinary.The rest of the morning's news.
0:07:07 > 0:07:08Suspected domestic abusers could be
0:07:08 > 0:07:10electronically tagged, or banned from drinking
0:07:10 > 0:07:12alcohol and taking drugs, as part of proposals to tackle
0:07:12 > 0:07:16the problem in England and Wales.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18The Government wants views on a set of measures,
0:07:18 > 0:07:20which includes the first legal definition of economic
0:07:20 > 0:07:22abuse and a commissioner to oversee the issue.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25Jon Donnison reports.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27Euleen Hope suffered a decade of abuse
0:07:27 > 0:07:29at the hands of her ex-partner.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33Emotional, but also physical.
0:07:33 > 0:07:37She ended up in hospital more than a dozen times.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40She says she used to grow her fringe long to cover the black eyes.
0:07:40 > 0:07:46Some people say to me, why did you not get out sooner?
0:07:46 > 0:07:49Do you really want to look over your shoulder,
0:07:49 > 0:07:51if you leave a relationship?
0:07:51 > 0:07:52They could still be after you.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54He said, "I'll tell you when it's over."
0:07:54 > 0:07:57He threatened me and told me he would organise for someone
0:07:57 > 0:08:01to throw acid in my face.
0:08:01 > 0:08:07In 2015, the man was eventually jailed for grievous bodily harm
0:08:07 > 0:08:15and assault after Euleen's sister contacted the police.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17Almost two million people in England and Wales,
0:08:17 > 0:08:19most of them women, suffered
0:08:19 > 0:08:20domestic abuse last year.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22The Government wants to make it easier to prosecute perpetrators.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25It is launching a consultation document before it tries to get
0:08:25 > 0:08:26tougher laws passed.
0:08:26 > 0:08:27Among the proposals, broadening the legal definition
0:08:27 > 0:08:29of domestic abuse to include physical, psychological, sexual,
0:08:29 > 0:08:36emotional, but also economic abuse.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40Tougher sentences for cases involving children.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43And new protection orders to allow police and courts to intervene more
0:08:43 > 0:08:46quickly when abuse is suspected.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48The consultation period for the proposed new laws
0:08:48 > 0:08:49will last 12 weeks.
0:08:49 > 0:08:53Jon Donnison, BBC News.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56And we'll be getting reaction on this story from former
0:08:56 > 0:09:01victims of domestic abuse and others later in the programme.
0:09:01 > 0:09:03Two teenagers have died and two children are among
0:09:03 > 0:09:07the injured after a three-car crash in North Yorkshire.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09The boys, believed to be 17, died at the scene
0:09:09 > 0:09:12of the accident on the A61 near Thirsk last night.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15Five adults and two children were taken to hospital.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19Police have appealed for anyone who saw what happened to get in touch.
0:09:19 > 0:09:23The Danish man accused of murdering a female journalist
0:09:23 > 0:09:25aboard his homemade submarine, and then cutting up her
0:09:25 > 0:09:29corpse, is on trial this morning in Copenhagen.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31Inventor Peter Madsen admits dismembering Kim Wall's body,
0:09:31 > 0:09:35and throwing it out to sea, but denies killing her.
0:09:35 > 0:09:37Ms Wall was working on a story about Madsen when she went
0:09:37 > 0:09:38missing last August.
0:09:38 > 0:09:41Our reporter Maddy Savage is in court - she gave us
0:09:41 > 0:09:47the background to the case.
0:09:47 > 0:09:52It is a bleak's winters day in Copenhagen, but it has not stopped
0:09:52 > 0:09:55crowds of journalists from around the world turning up to mark the
0:09:55 > 0:10:00start of this high profile trial. The background to this case, a warm
0:10:00 > 0:10:05August summer night when the Swedish freelance journalist Kim Wall who
0:10:05 > 0:10:09had reported for the Guardian and others, she went to the dockside, a
0:10:09 > 0:10:1550 minute Drive from here, to go on-board Peter Madsen's submarine.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19She did not return alive after interviewing him. Parts of her body
0:10:19 > 0:10:24were found on the beach and at the bottom of the ocean in the weeks and
0:10:24 > 0:10:26months that followed. Peter Madsen has changed his story a number of
0:10:26 > 0:10:31times about what happened. Initially said he dropped her off safely, the
0:10:31 > 0:10:36then said he died when a hatch fell on her head and he's latest story is
0:10:36 > 0:10:40that she died of carbon monoxide poisoning. He has admitted cutting
0:10:40 > 0:10:45up her body but denies killing her. The trial is expected to take 12
0:10:45 > 0:10:50days, spread over seven weeks. If he is convicted of murder, he faces a
0:10:50 > 0:10:54life sentence in Denmark which would mean 15-17 years in prison without
0:10:54 > 0:11:02parole. He could also be sent to a secure mental health hospital.
0:11:05 > 0:11:10There has been a rise in women from Northern Ireland having abortions in
0:11:10 > 0:11:13England after the Government announced they would not have to pay
0:11:13 > 0:11:21for them. Abortion is illegal in Northern Ireland except for when a
0:11:21 > 0:11:25woman's life is at risk or a permanent and serious risk to her
0:11:25 > 0:11:27physical or mental health.
0:11:27 > 0:11:29And Victoria will be discussing this in more detail
0:11:29 > 0:11:32just after half nine.
0:11:32 > 0:11:36The UK and Saudi Arabia have agreed plans for a future trade and
0:11:36 > 0:11:40investment programme worth £65 billion. The announcement comes on
0:11:40 > 0:11:45the second day of a visit to the UK by the Saudi crown to Mohammad bin
0:11:45 > 0:11:51Salman. The packaging please direct investment in both countries across
0:11:51 > 0:11:53energy, education, health care and defence -- the package includes
0:11:53 > 0:11:56direct investment.
0:11:56 > 0:11:58Politicians in Florida have approved a bill to tighten gun
0:11:58 > 0:12:00controls in the State, following last month's
0:12:00 > 0:12:02deadly school shooting, which killed 17 people.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04The bill raises the legal age for buying rifles and imposes
0:12:04 > 0:12:06a three-day waiting period on all firearms sales.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10It will also allow the arming of some school staff,
0:12:10 > 0:12:13including teachers, but does not include a ban on assault-style
0:12:13 > 0:12:16weapons like the one used in last month's attack.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20The UK's public spending watchdog has warned that many
0:12:20 > 0:12:23councils in England will become financially unsustainable
0:12:23 > 0:12:26if they continue to rely on their reserve funds to pay
0:12:26 > 0:12:29for the increasing demands of social care.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32The National Audit Office says two thirds of councils with social
0:12:32 > 0:12:33care responsibilities raided their reserves
0:12:33 > 0:12:36in the financial year ending last April.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38The Government says a new funding settlement has been approved
0:12:38 > 0:12:41for councils to help pay for the services that keep
0:12:41 > 0:12:46communities running.
0:12:46 > 0:12:49Train passengers will be able to claim compensation more easily for
0:12:49 > 0:12:53the knock-on costs of delays as part of changes to ticket terms and
0:12:53 > 0:12:57conditions. Rail companies are removing a clause which says they
0:12:57 > 0:13:00will not accept any liability for indirect effects such as commuters
0:13:00 > 0:13:06having to pay for taxis and hotels. The consumer group Which? had
0:13:06 > 0:13:09previously accused firms of misleading the public. The soldiers
0:13:09 > 0:13:13of the world Welsh have finally managed to catch themselves a new
0:13:13 > 0:13:21regimental mascot, formerly wild goat who to give the troops the slip
0:13:21 > 0:13:26when they first tried to catch him. Six months of training before taking
0:13:26 > 0:13:31up official duties. The Royal Welsh have had a goat as a mascot since
0:13:31 > 0:13:36the 18th century. I presume that is a shot of them trying to catch said
0:13:36 > 0:13:38goat!
0:13:38 > 0:13:43That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30.
0:13:43 > 0:13:48Let us bring you some sport. I'm just going to tell you what
0:13:48 > 0:13:54interview we are starting our programme with, an interview with
0:13:54 > 0:13:58Steve, sitting next to me, his photographs were stolen from his
0:13:58 > 0:14:08Facebook profile and used on dating sites to con women to handing over
0:14:08 > 0:14:17in some cases thousands of pounds to scammers. We will speak to him in a
0:14:17 > 0:14:22moment in his first broadcast interview and a serious message
0:14:22 > 0:14:26which Steve will talk to you about which is your profile is not your
0:14:26 > 0:14:33own, what is on the is not yours, anyone can take your stuff. Anyway,
0:14:33 > 0:14:38he will articulate it much better than I have! The sport now. More
0:14:38 > 0:14:42Champions League football last night, but all five British teams
0:14:42 > 0:14:51will not be in the quarterfinals, with some criticism.
0:14:51 > 0:14:54None more so than Juventus defender Giorgio Chiellini.
0:14:54 > 0:15:02After they knocked Tottenham Hotspur out of the Champions League 4-3
0:15:02 > 0:15:05on aggregate, he told the media that he and his teammates knew
0:15:05 > 0:15:07Spurs were weak in defence and fragile mentally and some
0:15:07 > 0:15:09Tottenham fans may well agree because although there's no shame
0:15:09 > 0:15:12in being knocked out by a side that has made two
0:15:12 > 0:15:13of the last three finals
0:15:13 > 0:15:15in the competition, it's the manner of the goals
0:15:15 > 0:15:18they conceded over the two legs which will really hurt them.
0:15:18 > 0:15:20Things had started so well for Spurs.
0:15:20 > 0:15:22They were well on top in the first
0:15:22 > 0:15:24half and deservedly led through Son Heung Min.
0:15:24 > 0:15:26But then experience told in the view
0:15:26 > 0:15:27of veteran defender Chiellini
0:15:27 > 0:15:30with Juventus stunning Spurs with two goals in less
0:15:30 > 0:15:31than three second-half minutes.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34They go through to the last eight, securing a 2-1 win at Wembley.
0:15:34 > 0:15:35Afterwards Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino responded
0:15:35 > 0:15:43to some of that criticism.
0:15:46 > 0:15:54No experience, no lack of concentration. How many chances we
0:15:54 > 0:15:58concede, in the first leg of the second leg today, I think we concede
0:15:58 > 0:16:02three chances and they scored twice. We created a lot of chances and only
0:16:02 > 0:16:04scored one.
0:16:04 > 0:16:06Well, things were far more comfortable for Manchester City.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09They went into the second leg of their last 16 tie against
0:16:09 > 0:16:12FC Basel with a 4-0 advantage from their away tie,
0:16:12 > 0:16:14and there was a collector's item for the team from Switzerland.
0:16:14 > 0:16:18A 2-1 win on the night making it City's first home defeat
0:16:18 > 0:16:21since the end of 2016, and just the fourth time they've lost
0:16:21 > 0:16:24in all competitions this season.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27And it was an even more unusual story for fans watching
0:16:27 > 0:16:30at the Etihad, as manager Pep Guardiola said his side
0:16:30 > 0:16:33forgot to attack at times, but they have been blessed so far
0:16:33 > 0:16:41this season, with some more entertainment ahead, I'm sure.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48And disappointment for Phil Neville is the new England women's manager?
0:16:48 > 0:16:50England went into their final match of the She Believes Cup,
0:16:50 > 0:16:53knowing that a draw against the United States in Orlando
0:16:53 > 0:16:55would give them an international tournament victory and a huge boost
0:16:55 > 0:16:57after what's been a tumultuous period, with the sacking
0:16:57 > 0:16:59of Mark Sampson and the somewhat unpopular appointment
0:16:59 > 0:17:02of Phil Neville.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05Unfortunately, they just fell short.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08Facing the world's number one side in their own back yard,
0:17:08 > 0:17:10they put in a strong performance.
0:17:10 > 0:17:14The only difference was an unsightly piece of defending, which ended up
0:17:14 > 0:17:17with an own goal for keeper Karen Bardsley,
0:17:17 > 0:17:25much to the disappointment of Neville.
0:17:25 > 0:17:29Defeat hurts, it is why I kept the players on the pitch at the end of
0:17:29 > 0:17:34the game, because sometimes you have to feel that hurt and pain, see the
0:17:34 > 0:17:38opposition lift the trophy, because it sticks with you, and we hope at
0:17:38 > 0:17:42the next competition, they remember this pain and it kicks them on even
0:17:42 > 0:17:42more.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44Well, one way of trying to improve their mood will be
0:17:44 > 0:17:46a visit to Disneyland when the players wake up,
0:17:46 > 0:17:48but it may be little consolation.
0:17:48 > 0:17:56More sport after ten.
0:17:57 > 0:17:58Good morning, Thursday morning, welcome to the programme.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02Women across the internet have been falling for this guy.
0:18:02 > 0:18:03He's handsome, he's fun, and he's charming.
0:18:03 > 0:18:05Only trouble is, in reality, he's not only married,
0:18:05 > 0:18:07he's married to a man.
0:18:07 > 0:18:10These pictures are of Steve Bustin.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12He's a 46-year-old public speaking coach from Brighton.
0:18:12 > 0:18:16But his photos have been stolen by a scammer, or maybe scammers,
0:18:16 > 0:18:19who've been setting up profiles on Facebook and a dating site,
0:18:19 > 0:18:24to lure women into falling for him, before asking for money.
0:18:24 > 0:18:27We've heard before on this programme from women who've been duped
0:18:27 > 0:18:29by internet fraudsters, but what's it like to have your
0:18:29 > 0:18:35whole identity stolen by them?
0:18:35 > 0:18:38Let's talk to Steve Bustin now.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40You're a professional man, fairly active on social media,
0:18:40 > 0:18:45it's part of your job, but about two years ago,
0:18:45 > 0:18:47one day you find out someone's using your photos
0:18:47 > 0:18:48to create a Facebook profile.
0:18:48 > 0:18:53What happened?
0:18:53 > 0:18:57Yeah, I suddenly had people, friends of mine on Facebook, saying, I had a
0:18:57 > 0:19:04friend request from somebody using your photos, is this you? That
0:19:04 > 0:19:09escalated, I found profiles not in my name at using the photos, and at
0:19:09 > 0:19:12that point you could report to Facebook that somebody was trying to
0:19:12 > 0:19:16be you, you could only report that they were trying to be some deals. I
0:19:16 > 0:19:22had to get my friends to message Facebook, and eventually they
0:19:22 > 0:19:25flagged up my profile, and I got a message from someone saying, it is
0:19:25 > 0:19:30not just Facebook, I was on a dating site, I thought I was chatting to
0:19:30 > 0:19:35you. This was when I realised it had gone further, so what's on point my
0:19:35 > 0:19:41photos have been harvested, script off my profile and sold. So data is
0:19:41 > 0:19:46sold, and images are sold as well. That allows people to do something
0:19:46 > 0:19:49like this.You have given us some photographs of you which have been
0:19:49 > 0:19:58used by the scammer scammers, let's just think why your photographs were
0:19:58 > 0:20:02used. There is a picture of you with your sister, which we are going to
0:20:02 > 0:20:07show any minute now. Why do think a picture of you and your sister was
0:20:07 > 0:20:11used?Well, I know exactly why, because the most recent woman I have
0:20:11 > 0:20:21been in contact with, that is my sister Nicola about three years ago,
0:20:21 > 0:20:27but Martin, the most recent scammer, we don't know his real name, he sent
0:20:27 > 0:20:31that to a woman who contacted me about three weeks ago and told her
0:20:31 > 0:20:36that was him with his deceased wife. Now, my sister is not terribly happy
0:20:36 > 0:20:42about that, understandably, and it is just wrong to be telling stories
0:20:42 > 0:20:47about people that clearly aren't true.But the image and the story,
0:20:47 > 0:20:55the fake story, which suggests that you are a widower, that you are mid
0:20:55 > 0:21:0050s perhaps, generally trustworthy, is that what is going on there?It
0:21:00 > 0:21:05seems to be, yes.This is you had a Halloween party, how does this fit
0:21:05 > 0:21:10in?This is actually me at work, weirdly! I was compere in a
0:21:10 > 0:21:15Halloween ball last year. But it means he has come back to my profile
0:21:15 > 0:21:21multiple times to look for both Dominic more photos to update. Most
0:21:21 > 0:21:25of them ten years old, but this is last October. Ian has come back to
0:21:25 > 0:21:33refresh the file. He knows my name, he has come back, and he knows where
0:21:33 > 0:21:39to go to find more material.And this is you with your dog, let's
0:21:39 > 0:21:43have a look at this, what does this image portrayed to women looking for
0:21:43 > 0:21:46a relationship? I suspect it hopefully says cultured, because I
0:21:46 > 0:21:53was reading!At ease with animals... Nice guy, you got a dog, must be
0:21:53 > 0:22:00nice.The scammer told the most recent woman, Constance, that the
0:22:00 > 0:22:05dog died last year, but she is very much alive, so slightly odd that he
0:22:05 > 0:22:09is making up these stories. I guess he wanted it to seem like there was
0:22:09 > 0:22:13a whole life there, I use social media for business, but also family
0:22:13 > 0:22:22and social stop. -- social stop.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24and social stop. -- social stop.But it is not just still images, I'm
0:22:24 > 0:22:28going to play this now for our audience, let's just play it first,
0:22:28 > 0:22:36you can explain what is going on. This is Martin Petersen...His
0:22:36 > 0:22:46voice, my face, and a woman he was talking to, Constance.
0:22:46 > 0:22:49To actually talk properly.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51It's because of where I am in Bahrain.
0:22:51 > 0:22:52Yes?
0:22:52 > 0:22:53The internet is horrible.
0:22:53 > 0:22:54Yes, I know.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58It keeps stopping.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00Well, you keep stopping as well, and then the line
0:23:00 > 0:23:03keeps breaking as well.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06Oh, that's a shame.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08It's good to see you.
0:23:08 > 0:23:09How are you doing?
0:23:09 > 0:23:11How is your Sunday going?
0:23:11 > 0:23:12It's good to see you as well.
0:23:12 > 0:23:15How is your Sunday going?
0:23:15 > 0:23:19How was my what?
0:23:19 > 0:23:24How is your Sunday going?
0:23:24 > 0:23:25Oh, it's good, it is good.
0:23:25 > 0:23:30Yes, it's lovely and sunny here, so I've been in the garden.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32Are you home alone?
0:23:32 > 0:23:37Yes, I am today.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40Where is everyone?
0:23:40 > 0:23:41They've all gone home.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45They live in London.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47Are you coming home soon?
0:23:47 > 0:23:51Are you coming home next weekend?
0:23:51 > 0:23:54I'm coming in two weeks, unfortunately.
0:23:54 > 0:23:59Oh, OK, so an extra one.
0:23:59 > 0:24:06I mean, I will be here just before you know it.
0:24:06 > 0:24:07I know, OK.
0:24:07 > 0:24:15Then we can talk about what we're going to do.
0:24:16 > 0:24:17Can you hear me?
0:24:17 > 0:24:21Yes, I can hear you.
0:24:21 > 0:24:25Should I call you on a normal call so we can talk?
0:24:25 > 0:24:28Because this Skype thing is not working for me.
0:24:28 > 0:24:35It's working occasionally, a bit.
0:24:35 > 0:24:38So let me call you on the phone, if that's OK with you?
0:24:38 > 0:24:40OK.
0:24:40 > 0:24:43All right, let's do that.
0:24:43 > 0:24:50All right.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53So he took real footage of you and made it look like the signal was
0:24:53 > 0:25:00breaking up. Where did he get that from?I had to hunt for that, when
0:25:00 > 0:25:04Constance said to me, by the time that call to place, we were onto
0:25:04 > 0:25:11him, so double was stringing him along.She agreed to do that and all
0:25:11 > 0:25:18us to show it today.It is not on my YouTube channel or my Facebook
0:25:18 > 0:25:22profile, so he had really had to try and find that.The all point is that
0:25:22 > 0:25:26he is trying to Leo women into some kind of relationship and, very early
0:25:26 > 0:25:31on, he begins to ask for money. You have met some of the women,
0:25:31 > 0:25:37Constance is one of them, what were they told?It is very standard, he
0:25:37 > 0:25:41is always a widower, tends to be late 50s, often has to work abroad.
0:25:41 > 0:25:46In that case, he was supposedly in Bahrain, no idea where he was. But
0:25:46 > 0:25:50when they are abroad, something goes wrong, all of a sudden, could I have
0:25:50 > 0:25:55some money, please? With Constance, he had very recently said he had
0:25:55 > 0:26:01been involved in a car accident, sent a photograph of me after a
0:26:01 > 0:26:04gardening accident, with blood on my face, building up to asking for
0:26:04 > 0:26:09money. Some of the other women have been asked for thousands of pounds.
0:26:09 > 0:26:14And have given thousands of pounds? The women I have spoken to, no, they
0:26:14 > 0:26:18have got suspicious in time, and that is when they have done a
0:26:18 > 0:26:24reverse Google image search, you can find out where the image came from.
0:26:24 > 0:26:30So, thankfully, I hate to think how many women are dating me, somebody
0:26:30 > 0:26:35who looks like me.And you want to get in touch with them all?I would
0:26:35 > 0:26:40love to know how many women are dating somebody using my photos, it
0:26:40 > 0:26:43would be great, get them together, I will throw a party, we will invite
0:26:43 > 0:26:50some single straight men, which is what they are hoping to do!Tim
0:26:50 > 0:26:54says, locking your Facebook profile is nothing new, so Facebook is
0:26:54 > 0:26:57toeing the line, but if strangers have got the photos, that is the
0:26:57 > 0:27:02fault of the user.To an extent, yes, I do use Facebook, I have
0:27:02 > 0:27:06always wanted to be open, because I want people to be able to find me.
0:27:06 > 0:27:11To an extent, I do put my life out there. But that doesn't give
0:27:11 > 0:27:14somebody permission to come and steal it and use it for the various
0:27:14 > 0:27:20purposes. But I think it does highlight the fact that social media
0:27:20 > 0:27:23is a public forum, and, yes, you can shut your profile right down. Even
0:27:23 > 0:27:26then, you would be surprised how much information people can find.
0:27:26 > 0:27:30You have to remember, when you put something on social media, you are
0:27:30 > 0:27:34really posting in public, you have to bear that in mind. If there is
0:27:34 > 0:27:38something you would not want seen in public, don't post it. But I am not
0:27:38 > 0:27:41sane people should not be posting on social media, it is brilliant. But
0:27:41 > 0:27:46just have an awareness it is out in public.But you want to campaign now
0:27:46 > 0:27:51for a change in the law that would stop this happening?Ideally. I
0:27:51 > 0:27:59mean, cat fishing is not illegal, strangely.What does it mean?It is
0:27:59 > 0:28:06the scamming of people using false identities, and these scammers...
0:28:06 > 0:28:11Oh, but it is illegal, it is fraud. I have reported it to the police,
0:28:11 > 0:28:16they are not interested, because ultimately it is low-level, and at
0:28:16 > 0:28:20this point there has been no financial loss.That you know of.
0:28:20 > 0:28:25Certainly for me or Constance, but I think there needs to be a more
0:28:25 > 0:28:31explicit law around catfishing, it is about identity theft, and it
0:28:31 > 0:28:36doesn't sit in an obvious place in the law. I think there is an onus on
0:28:36 > 0:28:39the social media platforms to tighten up and make people aware,
0:28:39 > 0:28:43and Facebook are getting much better at that. Twitter have got a lot to
0:28:43 > 0:28:47learn. But also the dating sites, at the moment their verification is
0:28:47 > 0:28:52they ask you to send a photo, so this guy just sent in my photo. That
0:28:52 > 0:28:56is useless. When I have approached the dating sites, their response has
0:28:56 > 0:29:01been really poor. I do think there needs to be something coming from
0:29:01 > 0:29:05the Government in terms of laws, enforcing websites that are hosting
0:29:05 > 0:29:09profiles to tighten up their security and make sure that people
0:29:09 > 0:29:13control what can and cannot be seen in public.What does your husband
0:29:13 > 0:29:18think of this?You thought it was funny at first, but then we saw the
0:29:18 > 0:29:22video, and he mocked up a passport with my photo, we felt it was more
0:29:22 > 0:29:30serious. I had to reassure them that he is safe, that these partners are
0:29:30 > 0:29:34not my style! I have been within 16 years, we are very happy.Thank you
0:29:34 > 0:29:37for joining us.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40Now listen to this.
0:29:40 > 0:29:42It's what Rufaro Chisango, a young black female student
0:29:42 > 0:29:45at Nottingham Trent University training to be a youth worker, had
0:29:45 > 0:29:47to listen to from inside her room.
0:29:47 > 0:29:49The abuse happened earlier this week as drunken students congregated
0:29:49 > 0:29:52outside of her room, but after no response
0:29:52 > 0:29:54from the university, she put her footage up
0:29:54 > 0:29:55on Twitter yesterday.
0:29:55 > 0:30:03We have bleeped some of the words.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05INAUDIBLE.
0:30:05 > 0:30:09Leave her alone!
0:30:09 > 0:30:15What was that, sorry?
0:30:15 > 0:30:17# Say ooh-ah, BLEEP the blacks
0:30:17 > 0:30:25# Say ooh-ah, BLEEP the blacks
0:30:25 > 0:30:28# Say ooh-ah, BLEEP the blacks
0:30:28 > 0:30:30A black woman...
0:30:30 > 0:30:35# We hate the blacks # We hate the blacks
0:30:35 > 0:30:36INAUDIBLE. # We hate the blacks
0:30:36 > 0:30:38We hate blacks! # We hate the blacks
0:30:38 > 0:30:39We hate white people! # We hate the blacks
0:30:39 > 0:30:41White people are BLEEP. # We hate the blacks
0:30:41 > 0:30:48White people are... # We hate the blacks
0:30:50 > 0:30:53ALL TALK AT ONCE.
0:30:53 > 0:30:55The blacks and the whites are congregating.
0:30:55 > 0:30:56I have a dream.
0:30:56 > 0:30:57I have a dream.
0:30:57 > 0:30:58I had a dream.
0:30:58 > 0:31:06INAUDIBLE.
0:31:17 > 0:31:22Let us talk to Rufaro now.
0:31:22 > 0:31:25We are joined now by Mary Okpo, the vice president of
0:31:25 > 0:31:26Nottingham Trent Afro-Caribbean Society.
0:31:26 > 0:31:32What was the impact of what you were hearing on new, Rufaro?A big
0:31:32 > 0:31:40impact, obviously. When it happened, I just got home, five, ten minutes
0:31:40 > 0:31:46later, I heard shouting from outside my door, and I was just shocked,
0:31:46 > 0:31:50that was my initial thought, really shocked. I felt very isolated and
0:31:50 > 0:31:57uncomfortable.Sorry to interrupt, without naming any names, do you
0:31:57 > 0:32:03know the people who were shouting? Yeah, I know who they are.Have you
0:32:03 > 0:32:10seen them since?No, I haven't.What did you do? What complaint did you
0:32:10 > 0:32:16make to the University?I went to the reception and I complained that
0:32:16 > 0:32:21there was racial abuse outside my corridor so they took a statement
0:32:21 > 0:32:25and my details and stuff and they said they would get back to me by
0:32:25 > 0:32:30the morning, then they would have spoken to them, because they all
0:32:30 > 0:32:37went out that night. They didn't contact me.Since it happened, no
0:32:37 > 0:32:44one has got in touch with you in terms of university officials?After
0:32:44 > 0:32:47I put it on Twitter, that is when I got more contact from the
0:32:47 > 0:32:53University. This morning, someone came from the University and had a
0:32:53 > 0:32:57chat with me. I gave my statement to them as well. I had e-mailed them as
0:32:57 > 0:33:04well before.What have you asked them to do? What do you expect them
0:33:04 > 0:33:09to do?I just want them to take more action on what is happening. I just
0:33:09 > 0:33:15want the appropriate action to take place. Obviously, it is racial
0:33:15 > 0:33:20abuse, it should not be tolerated at all. It should not have such a long
0:33:20 > 0:33:26delay when I report something like this.Has this happened to you
0:33:26 > 0:33:29before, Rufaro?No, this hasn't happened to me before.Have you
0:33:29 > 0:33:36considered contacting the police? Yes, I have considered contacting
0:33:36 > 0:33:41them but I wanted to see what the university would do first.OK. We're
0:33:41 > 0:33:45hoping to talk to the vice president of Nottingham Trent Afro-Caribbean
0:33:45 > 0:33:52society but we have just lost the line. In terms of your accommodation
0:33:52 > 0:33:57scenario, do you feel comfortable still residing in the room you are
0:33:57 > 0:34:05in?I feel OK now because more action is taking place.I'll going
0:34:05 > 0:34:11to bring in Mary, if I made, Rufaro. Hello, can you hear me, Mary?Good
0:34:11 > 0:34:18morning.What would you expect the university to do?Anything that is
0:34:18 > 0:34:24adequate.What does that mean in practical terms?I don't know, a
0:34:24 > 0:34:29suspension for the students, this is unacceptable. As Steve Bustin is a
0:34:29 > 0:34:35member of our committee, we have a level of response ability to her --
0:34:35 > 0:34:44as Rufaro is a member.A suspension to the students involved if they
0:34:44 > 0:34:53are...At the very least.What at the very worst?Expulsion.Really?
0:34:53 > 0:35:00It is unacceptable. No justification. Whether they were
0:35:00 > 0:35:04inebriated or not, there is nothing that can justify what they said. She
0:35:04 > 0:35:09clearly was in a state of distress, this could have affected her
0:35:09 > 0:35:13incredibly, but she is a strong girl, she has come through this,
0:35:13 > 0:35:16with our support and the support of her friends and family, but this was
0:35:16 > 0:35:25a terrible incident.How shocked you buy that kind of language in Britain
0:35:25 > 0:35:30in 2018? -- how shocked are you buy that kind of language in Britain in
0:35:30 > 0:35:352018?It is something I did not think I would see. I wiz had an idea
0:35:35 > 0:35:41racism was covert, but for it to be so overtly open in 2018, it is
0:35:41 > 0:35:46something that shocked me to the highest -- I always had an idea
0:35:46 > 0:35:49racism was Cofer.Have you come across this before at your
0:35:49 > 0:35:55university?I know there have been other incidents at the University.
0:35:55 > 0:36:04Not me, personally.How rare are they? How common are they?I would
0:36:04 > 0:36:08not say they are common, it is very row, this is the second time it has
0:36:08 > 0:36:12happened in the past year that I know of. I would not say it is
0:36:12 > 0:36:16common, but it is something that should not happen at all in the
0:36:16 > 0:36:20first place.I have a statement from Nottingham Trent University, we are
0:36:20 > 0:36:23shocked and appalled to see the video of racist chanting, this kind
0:36:23 > 0:36:27of behaviour will not be tolerated. Those suspected perpetrators have
0:36:27 > 0:36:35been suspended pending a full investigation. OK, that is just in.
0:36:35 > 0:36:38We have contacted the student who made the complaint and we are
0:36:38 > 0:36:41supporting her and others affecting and we will be liaising with the
0:36:41 > 0:36:47police about this incident. While an investigation is carried out, the
0:36:47 > 0:36:54suspects have been suspended. How do you respond to that?Great. Because
0:36:54 > 0:36:59no one should be able to get away with this kind of disrespect, this
0:36:59 > 0:37:04kind of racist behaviour in this society today. I am happy.Thank you
0:37:04 > 0:37:10very much for talking to us, Mary, vice president of Nottingham Trent
0:37:10 > 0:37:16Afro-Caribbean Society. And you heard first from Rufaro who posted
0:37:16 > 0:37:19the footage on Twitter.
0:37:19 > 0:37:20Still to come...
0:37:20 > 0:37:23We'll be discussing the increase of women from Northern Ireland
0:37:23 > 0:37:26having abortions in England.
0:37:26 > 0:37:31That is since charges were dropped last summer, the number coming have
0:37:31 > 0:37:36increased.
0:37:36 > 0:37:38Some people are saying their Amazon Alexa device has
0:37:38 > 0:37:40been been letting out an unprompted, creepy cackle.
0:37:40 > 0:37:42It appears to happen without any previous interaction.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45Spooky or what?
0:37:45 > 0:37:46Time for the latest news.
0:37:46 > 0:37:47Here's Annita McVeigh.
0:37:47 > 0:37:52The BBC News headlines this morning.
0:37:52 > 0:37:55The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is due to make a statement this
0:37:55 > 0:37:58lunchtime in the House of Commons about the nerve agent used in the
0:37:58 > 0:38:03attempted murder of a former Russian spy and his daughter.
0:38:03 > 0:38:05While police have now identified the type of chemical,
0:38:05 > 0:38:08it's not yet known where it was made or who could have
0:38:08 > 0:38:09carried out the attack.
0:38:09 > 0:38:12Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain in a critical condition in hospital.
0:38:12 > 0:38:15A policeman who went to help them was also seriously injured.
0:38:15 > 0:38:17Suspected domestic abusers could be electronically tagged,
0:38:17 > 0:38:20as part of new government proposals.
0:38:20 > 0:38:25A consultation has been launched on a set of measures
0:38:25 > 0:38:27for England and Wales, which also include the first legal
0:38:27 > 0:38:29definition of economic abuse and a commissioner
0:38:29 > 0:38:34to oversee the issue.
0:38:34 > 0:38:35The Government is also suggesting tougher sentences
0:38:35 > 0:38:37for cases involving children, and possible court orders
0:38:37 > 0:38:40which could include tagging or alcohol bans.
0:38:40 > 0:38:42Two teenagers have died and two children are among
0:38:42 > 0:38:45the injured after a three-car crash in North Yorkshire.
0:38:45 > 0:38:49The boys, believed to be 17, died at the scene
0:38:49 > 0:38:51on the A61 near Thirsk last night.
0:38:51 > 0:38:56Five adults and two children were taken to hospital.
0:38:56 > 0:39:00Police have appealed for anyone who saw what happened to get in touch.
0:39:00 > 0:39:06The trial of a Danish man accused of murdering a female journalist on
0:39:06 > 0:39:10board of his home-made submarine and then cutting up her corpse has
0:39:10 > 0:39:13opened in Copenhagen.
0:39:13 > 0:39:15Inventor Peter Madsen admits dismembering Kim Wall's body,
0:39:15 > 0:39:17and throwing it out to sea, but denies killing her.
0:39:17 > 0:39:20Ms Wall was working on a story about Madsen when she went
0:39:20 > 0:39:21missing last August.
0:39:21 > 0:39:24That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:39:24 > 0:39:29Thank you. An e-mail here from a woman who does not wish us to use
0:39:29 > 0:39:34her name, that is absolutely fine, I'm so glad you are covering the
0:39:34 > 0:39:40scamming topic, I was victim to the same scam two years ago, I have had
0:39:40 > 0:39:44to keep it secret as I did not know who to share it with, I am so
0:39:44 > 0:39:48embarrassed over my desperation to find love and it going pear shaped.
0:39:48 > 0:39:53I paid £200 and it was to an address in Ghana. The man was on a highly
0:39:53 > 0:40:00advertised dating website and said he was in the US
0:40:03 > 0:40:05he was in the US military and rank. Looking to retire shortly and hard
0:40:05 > 0:40:08up for cash because he had been off sick. His photos were so slick and
0:40:08 > 0:40:12the conversations really attractive, I believed I was in this
0:40:12 > 0:40:17relationship with him for eight months. After picking up on spelling
0:40:17 > 0:40:22errors and I knew I had been conned, I tried to trace him and the area it
0:40:22 > 0:40:27came to be was a library in America. Thank you very much for letting us
0:40:27 > 0:40:35know. If you have been a victim of a similar scam, let us know. We do not
0:40:35 > 0:40:44need to use your name, you know that. Here is the sport. Mauricio
0:40:44 > 0:40:47Pochettino denies his side's lack of experience was to blame for the
0:40:47 > 0:40:52Champions League exit at the hands of Juventus last night. The Italians
0:40:52 > 0:40:55champions go through after coming from behind that the 2-1 win at
0:40:55 > 0:40:57Wembley
0:40:57 > 0:41:02from behind that the 2-1 win at Wembley, it ended 4-3 on aggregate.
0:41:02 > 0:41:06Manchester City's boss Pep Guardiola said his team forgot to attack, they
0:41:06 > 0:41:10lost 2-110 FC Basel. They make it through to the quarters but they
0:41:10 > 0:41:16were beaten at home for the first time since 2016. England's women
0:41:16 > 0:41:19head coach Phil Neville has urged the players to remember the pain of
0:41:19 > 0:41:21missing out on winning the couple-macro last night. They needed
0:41:21 > 0:41:29a draw against the US but they were beaten in Orlando. Rugby Union
0:41:29 > 0:41:32Captain Dylan Hartley will miss their Six Nations match against
0:41:32 > 0:41:36France this weekend with a calf injury meaning Owen Farrell will
0:41:36 > 0:41:41captain England instead for the first time. We will be back with
0:41:41 > 0:41:49more sport after 10am. Let me bring you this news. Terrorism related
0:41:49 > 0:41:53offences in Britain and arrests, a record 412 arrests for suspected
0:41:53 > 0:42:02terrorism offences in the UK in 2017, Home Office figures just out.
0:42:04 > 0:42:07Next, this programme can reveal there has been a 14% increase in
0:42:07 > 0:42:13women from Northern Ireland having abortions in England since the
0:42:13 > 0:42:16Government announced at the end of June last year that women would no
0:42:16 > 0:42:21longer have to pay for them.
0:42:21 > 0:42:23In the last eight months, at least 553 women travelled
0:42:23 > 0:42:25from the country to England to terminate their pregnancy.
0:42:25 > 0:42:27Abortion is illegal in Northern Ireland,
0:42:27 > 0:42:30except for when a woman's life is at risk or there is a permanent
0:42:30 > 0:42:35and serious risk to her physical or mental health.
0:42:35 > 0:42:38But women can travel to mainland Britain to have a termination.
0:42:38 > 0:42:42They used to be charged £900, but now they can have them for free.
0:42:42 > 0:42:45Labour MP Stella Creasy campaigned to get the charges
0:42:45 > 0:42:46dropped last year,
0:42:46 > 0:42:49and she's now leading a cross-party group of politicians calling
0:42:49 > 0:42:50on the Government to provide equal
0:42:50 > 0:42:56access in Northern Ireland so women no longer have
0:42:56 > 0:42:59to travel to the mainland.
0:42:59 > 0:43:04She joins us now from Westminster.
0:43:04 > 0:43:06And in Belfast, we can speak to Emma Campbell from
0:43:06 > 0:43:10the pro-choice campaign group Alliance for Choice.
0:43:10 > 0:43:14Hello, both of you, thank you for talking to us. Stella Creasy, your
0:43:14 > 0:43:20reaction to the 14% increase since abortions became free in this
0:43:20 > 0:43:24country for women from Northern Ireland?It reveals the scale of the
0:43:24 > 0:43:28need to address this issue. It is simply unconscionable that in 2018
0:43:28 > 0:43:35part of our nation, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, we treat women
0:43:35 > 0:43:39there differently than here in London or Birmingham or Manchester
0:43:39 > 0:43:43and what the data tells us is that we need to go further because it is
0:43:43 > 0:43:48not fair to ask women to travel. The UN Convention on violence against
0:43:48 > 0:43:52women has identified that asking women in Northern Ireland to travel
0:43:52 > 0:43:56to England to have an abortion is an inhuman and degrading thing to do.I
0:43:56 > 0:44:01will ask you more about that in a moment, I want to get reaction from
0:44:01 > 0:44:06Emma as well to these figures we have obtained.We know that a number
0:44:06 > 0:44:10of women travelling to the UK for abortion treatment in the last five
0:44:10 > 0:44:17years has dropped and we know anecdotally that was because of use
0:44:17 > 0:44:21of abortion pills people obtained online and took illegally. Although
0:44:21 > 0:44:25they were safe, we can see from the recent prosecutions that it was
0:44:25 > 0:44:29actually illegal. We understand these figures to mean that people
0:44:29 > 0:44:35are no longer willing to risk the prosecution and they would rather
0:44:35 > 0:44:39travel to access abortions than risk this criminalisation. However, in
0:44:39 > 0:44:44the week the funding was announced, we had two phone calls from
0:44:44 > 0:44:49different women unable to travel to England, won because of violent
0:44:49 > 0:44:52ex-partner destroyed all of her identification and another because
0:44:52 > 0:44:58she had a very young child and there was no way for her to travel -- one
0:44:58 > 0:45:11because of a violent ex-partner. Although women can access the
0:45:12 > 0:45:14treatment in the UK, there are often women left behind because they
0:45:14 > 0:45:17cannot travel.What do you say about that?I agree with Stella and she
0:45:17 > 0:45:19has been doing sterling work in helping us campaign for a change in
0:45:19 > 0:45:23Northern Ireland so women can access it on equal terms to women in
0:45:23 > 0:45:28England and Wales.Stella Creasy, why do you say the current
0:45:28 > 0:45:32legislation is leading to, as you said in your letter to the Minister
0:45:32 > 0:45:36for Women and equality is, the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, leading to
0:45:36 > 0:45:42torture or cruel and inhuman and degrading treatment?
0:45:42 > 0:45:47It is the United Nations committee who says that, they have done an
0:45:47 > 0:45:49inquiry into the situation in Northern Ireland. The Government
0:45:49 > 0:45:54told us they would ratify something called the Istanbul convention which
0:45:54 > 0:45:57is about ending violence against women. In order to do that, they
0:45:57 > 0:46:01have to tackle this issue, because it is a fundamental human right to
0:46:01 > 0:46:05have control over your body, and that is what we are talking about.
0:46:05 > 0:46:08We treat women Northern Ireland differently, we forced them to
0:46:08 > 0:46:13continue a pregnancy when they don't want to, it is inhumane and it is
0:46:13 > 0:46:18torture.But this is a devolved issue, so it is up to the Northern
0:46:18 > 0:46:22Ireland Assembly, isn't it?I am curious as to why women's rights is
0:46:22 > 0:46:26something we can devolve, but the Government said they would allow a
0:46:26 > 0:46:32free vote in the House of Commons about extending same-sex marriage to
0:46:32 > 0:46:34Northern Ireland, because we treat the community that was differently.
0:46:34 > 0:46:38I think you should be able to marry who you love, but I don't understand
0:46:38 > 0:46:43we recognise that as a human right and the Government therefore needs
0:46:43 > 0:46:48to act on that, but somehow when it comes to women's rights, it is OK to
0:46:48 > 0:46:53devolve. Crucially, the Northern Ireland public opinion is with us as
0:46:53 > 0:46:56well, it is the politicians you are not listening to the people. They
0:46:56 > 0:46:59want women to be able to access... Nobody is saying we want to
0:46:59 > 0:47:03encourage lots of abortions, but we are saying it is a human right to
0:47:03 > 0:47:08control what happens to your body. The public wanted, why do women's
0:47:08 > 0:47:11rights becomes something we can devolve, but with other human
0:47:11 > 0:47:16rights, we recognise we have to act? The Home Office says, and they are
0:47:16 > 0:47:19argument, the provision of abortion services in Northern Ireland is a
0:47:19 > 0:47:23matter for the Northern Ireland Assembly.So why are we saying we
0:47:23 > 0:47:26will act on same-sex marriage but not on women's rights? That seems to
0:47:26 > 0:47:31me like we are being selective about our fight for equality. This is
0:47:31 > 0:47:35International Women's Day, you know, feminist Christmas, as we like to
0:47:35 > 0:47:40call it! But it is not enough to march or use a hashtag, we need to
0:47:40 > 0:47:43make progress, and when it comes to abortion, a fundamental human right,
0:47:43 > 0:47:48we have got a long way to go. This Government was propping up Donald
0:47:48 > 0:47:51Trump and the global gag rule. The fact that we are treating women in
0:47:51 > 0:47:55Northern Ireland differently, the United Nations are calling us out,
0:47:55 > 0:48:01and the question is, are we going to act?I can only see the first word
0:48:01 > 0:48:04on your T-shirt, repeal, what is the rest of it? I am wearing this to
0:48:04 > 0:48:08stand in solidarity with brothers and sisters in Ireland who are
0:48:08 > 0:48:12having a referendum on repealing the eighth amendment of the Irish Guards
0:48:12 > 0:48:19and not with a label them to provide abortion to women in island. -- the
0:48:19 > 0:48:23Irish constitution. Women in Ireland are having to travel to England, and
0:48:23 > 0:48:27it is a fundamental human rights to access health care, and reproductive
0:48:27 > 0:48:36rights are crucial to equality. We are saying we will fight with you
0:48:36 > 0:48:38for human rights. Thank you very much, Stella Creasy,
0:48:38 > 0:48:45Emma Campbell, we have many messages from you about the student, sorry,
0:48:45 > 0:48:50let me tell you about this, we contacted the Department of Health
0:48:50 > 0:48:54and the Northern Ireland executive, but they did not respond. Messages
0:48:54 > 0:48:59about the racist footage posted on Twitter by a student who was the
0:48:59 > 0:49:03victim of it, Kari says, the racist behaviour towards this young woman
0:49:03 > 0:49:07should be investigated by the university and the culprits should
0:49:07 > 0:49:11be expelled. In the workplace, they would lose their jobs and possibly
0:49:11 > 0:49:14charges being brought against them, no human being should have to go
0:49:14 > 0:49:21through this. And this text goes on, I am white brochures and a mum, and
0:49:21 > 0:49:25I feel really sorry for this young woman, I would be devastated if my
0:49:25 > 0:49:28child was subjected to this sort of behaviour, she has the support of
0:49:28 > 0:49:32all this and people. This text is anonymous, the students using racist
0:49:32 > 0:49:39language should be expelled. Ken says, it makes me embarrassed to be
0:49:39 > 0:49:42British, I cannot believe young people at university are allowed to
0:49:42 > 0:49:47do that, they need to be kicked out, they should be zero-tolerance. Peter
0:49:47 > 0:49:50says, remove them and prosecute them. Nottingham Trent university
0:49:50 > 0:49:56have suspended the suspects while the matter is investigated.
0:49:56 > 0:50:00The trial of a Danish inventor accused of murdering a Swedish
0:50:00 > 0:50:02journalist on his self-built submarine last August
0:50:02 > 0:50:04has started in Copenhagen.
0:50:04 > 0:50:08Peter Madsen has admitted dismembering Kim Wall's body
0:50:08 > 0:50:12and throwing it out to sea but denies murder.
0:50:12 > 0:50:13Louisa Dalsgaard is a court reporter for DR,
0:50:13 > 0:50:21the official Danish broadcasting corporation in English.
0:50:23 > 0:50:28Thank you for talking to us.You are welcome.Tell us what happened to
0:50:28 > 0:50:35the journalist.Well, the police think the journalist has been killed
0:50:35 > 0:50:40on board of this submarine. Thursday the 10th of August last year, they
0:50:40 > 0:50:43think that Peter Madsen, the submarine builder and owner of the
0:50:43 > 0:50:49submarine, has killed her, he has dismembered her body, and he has
0:50:49 > 0:50:57done it so that he has plundered and he has brought different things, a
0:50:57 > 0:51:05saw to dismember her body, so I planned murder.
0:51:05 > 0:51:07planned murder.ETA denies killing Kim Wall, but he has changed his
0:51:07 > 0:51:13story a number of times. -- he denied.It started when they found
0:51:13 > 0:51:15him on board the submarine, they have been searching for the
0:51:15 > 0:51:19submarine the whole night, and they found him and the submarine sank. He
0:51:19 > 0:51:25told the police at that time that he had dropped Kim Wall off the same
0:51:25 > 0:51:28night, and that she had not been on the submarine the whole night. Then
0:51:28 > 0:51:33he changed his story to that she had died from a accident on the
0:51:33 > 0:51:37submarine, she had been hit by the winch in the submarine, and then she
0:51:37 > 0:51:43died. And then later he told police that she died from a poisoning of
0:51:43 > 0:51:47some sort, he couldn't tell, we don't know yet what he told the
0:51:47 > 0:51:51police the last time, but he keeps on saying that it was an accident,
0:51:51 > 0:51:58he has not killed her, but he admits to having dismembered her body.At
0:51:58 > 0:52:03the trial is expected to last 12 days, thank you very much, court
0:52:03 > 0:52:08reporter at the official Danish broadcasting corporation in English.
0:52:08 > 0:52:11A report published this morning gives a damming account
0:52:11 > 0:52:13of the financial state of local authorities in England and Wales.
0:52:13 > 0:52:16Councils do now have greater freedom to raise council tax than before,
0:52:16 > 0:52:18but the money they get from central government has been
0:52:18 > 0:52:21significantly reduced.
0:52:21 > 0:52:24The National Audit Office says many are now relying on reserves,
0:52:24 > 0:52:25which will eventually run out.
0:52:25 > 0:52:28One of the services provided by councils is social care,
0:52:28 > 0:52:31an area which is facing a sharp increase in demand
0:52:31 > 0:52:32as the population ages.
0:52:32 > 0:52:35So could the ability of councils to provide social care services
0:52:35 > 0:52:39safely be under threat?
0:52:39 > 0:52:41With us in the studio, Nadra Ahmed,
0:52:41 > 0:52:46chair of the National Care Association,
0:52:46 > 0:52:48which represents small to medium sized independent care homes,
0:52:48 > 0:52:50and John Fuller, the Conservative leader
0:52:50 > 0:52:53of South Norfolk Council and vice chairman
0:52:53 > 0:52:54of the Local Government Association's Resources Board.
0:52:54 > 0:53:01How do you react to the NAO's findings?
0:53:01 > 0:53:06Well, councils have been saying this for a long time, saying that we are
0:53:06 > 0:53:09facing a triple whammy, the amount of support from government is
0:53:09 > 0:53:14falling, the demand for services is increasing, and inflationary
0:53:14 > 0:53:17pressures and councils are higher than ever. We would say that,
0:53:17 > 0:53:21wouldn't we? But the NAO has shone a spotlight on some of the real
0:53:21 > 0:53:25issues, funding pressures we are facing, and adult social care is one
0:53:25 > 0:53:31of those.Is the Government listening to you?Let's face it, the
0:53:31 > 0:53:33general election and the Conservative manifesto got hung up
0:53:33 > 0:53:38on adult social care, it is a really tricky issue, and this is something
0:53:38 > 0:53:41more than just councils, something where a new settlement between
0:53:41 > 0:53:45government and councils, who delivers social care. We have an NHS
0:53:45 > 0:53:49but a local care service, and the demand for social care, and not just
0:53:49 > 0:53:53for old people, but people of all ages, is growing faster than the
0:53:53 > 0:53:59ability of councils to raise council tax.You are not just financially
0:53:59 > 0:54:03stretched because of social care, so is anyone in government listening to
0:54:03 > 0:54:08what even Conservative leaders are saying?Government is listening,
0:54:08 > 0:54:11they have made a series of small adjustments over the last few weeks,
0:54:11 > 0:54:16but we are all waiting with bated breath for the green paper on social
0:54:16 > 0:54:19care which will be published in June.How close is your council to
0:54:19 > 0:54:24running out of money?We have had to innovate and grow income, we are
0:54:24 > 0:54:29building houses again in a way we did not before. We are in for a
0:54:29 > 0:54:34standing count, I would say.What does that mean?We can keep our
0:54:34 > 0:54:38heads above water, but there are many authorities who have social
0:54:38 > 0:54:42care responsibilities, over half their total budget is going on
0:54:42 > 0:54:47social care, and we do 136 services. Left unchecked, the amount of money
0:54:47 > 0:54:51required to pay for social care at a local level would overwhelm the rest
0:54:51 > 0:54:59of the things that councils do.What is your take on this?The challenge
0:54:59 > 0:55:02is substantial, but it has been known about for quite some time, at
0:55:02 > 0:55:07least two and a half decades we have none.So how shocked you that
0:55:07 > 0:55:10government after government tries a bit to do something but never in the
0:55:10 > 0:55:14end comes up with anything because it is too difficult?We are
0:55:14 > 0:55:18absolutely stunned that, having said this for such a long time, both to
0:55:18 > 0:55:24local government and to national government, we have had this kind of
0:55:24 > 0:55:28cut, cuts, cut, if you like, ongoing. The people who are
0:55:28 > 0:55:31suffering are at the receiving end of this, and the provider sector
0:55:31 > 0:55:37that I represent is having to meet those challenges, despite the fact
0:55:37 > 0:55:42that funding is not in place. So the challenge for us will always be that
0:55:42 > 0:55:45central government needs to understand and to listen to the
0:55:45 > 0:55:50facts. The fact that there, they are blatant, there are numerous reports
0:55:50 > 0:55:55that have said we can't keep cutting social care, but despite it, we get
0:55:55 > 0:55:59it all the time. Health has got to understand about the integration, we
0:55:59 > 0:56:03have got to understand what integration means, and how we can
0:56:03 > 0:56:09save money from actually making it happen.So the Government would say,
0:56:09 > 0:56:13in England and Wales, health funding has been protected, ringfenced, that
0:56:13 > 0:56:18is true, but they have cut social care, hence people end up in
0:56:18 > 0:56:21hospitals, staying there, blocking beds, because there is nowhere for
0:56:21 > 0:56:27them to go in the community. It is just with describing what social
0:56:27 > 0:56:32care is, because not everybody is clear what it means.Social care is
0:56:32 > 0:56:36when people who have vulnerable needs, not just old people...Mostly
0:56:36 > 0:56:41it is.The fastest-growing part of social care is people of working
0:56:41 > 0:56:44age, youngsters who have reached adult food, in a way that might not
0:56:44 > 0:56:48have happened previously through medical science. Which we celebrate,
0:56:48 > 0:56:52of course, and when we have to look at the people, it can be 24-hour
0:56:52 > 0:56:56care or just a little bit of a helping hand, meals on wheels type
0:56:56 > 0:57:00things, but it is helping people make the most of their lives,
0:57:00 > 0:57:04ideally staying in their homes for longer, because that is much better
0:57:04 > 0:57:07value than having to go into full-time care homes. That is what
0:57:07 > 0:57:12social care...How frustrated you that this government is not gripping
0:57:12 > 0:57:20it?We hope that in June they will grip the matter, in the sense of
0:57:20 > 0:57:24recognising that councils, with the local care system that we have, with
0:57:24 > 0:57:31the increases in demand, it is up 15% over the last few years, that is
0:57:31 > 0:57:35what the National Audit Office report says, growing much faster,
0:57:35 > 0:57:39and it suits the government, and successive governments, to make sure
0:57:39 > 0:57:43that huge demand is on local taxpayers, rather than central
0:57:43 > 0:57:47taxation. We have got to the point WEC council tax alone cannot keep
0:57:47 > 0:57:53the lights on
0:57:53 > 0:57:57the lights on in social carewould you say funding levels are at
0:57:57 > 0:57:59dangerous levels?I think they have passed a critical level, they are
0:57:59 > 0:58:04really at the end, and that is where we are seeing care provision
0:58:04 > 0:58:08closing, and that is why you have got more people blocking hospital
0:58:08 > 0:58:14beds. So I think we are past that crisis point, and a solution has to
0:58:14 > 0:58:19be found, and it needs to be sustainable, it can't just be that
0:58:19 > 0:58:22we will put sticking plasters around again and again.Thank you both very
0:58:22 > 0:58:33much. The latest news and sport on the way, but first the weather.
0:58:33 > 0:58:37We have had some snow this morning, lovely pictures, lovely to look at
0:58:37 > 0:58:41if you don't have to travel in it, but some of the snow has been
0:58:41 > 0:58:45heavily across Wales, the Midlands and northern England. Through the
0:58:45 > 0:58:48next couple of hours, continuing to drift steadily eastwards. If you
0:58:48 > 0:58:53haven't got snow, you probably have rain from the same system. When it
0:58:53 > 0:58:57clears, it will brighten up behind it, and for many parts of the UK,
0:58:57 > 0:59:01dry with lengthy spells of sunshine. Some cloud around, producing showers
0:59:01 > 0:59:06in the West. On the hills, it could prove to be wintry. Temperature
0:59:06 > 0:59:13range roughly 5-10 towards the south. This evening and overnight, a
0:59:13 > 0:59:16lot of clear skies means that the temperature will drop quite quickly,
0:59:16 > 0:59:21a widespread frost, and the risk of ice one untreated surfaces. Wintry
0:59:21 > 0:59:26showers across Scotland, and we could also see freezing fog across
0:59:26 > 0:59:31parts of Wales and northern England. Temperatures in towns and cities
0:59:31 > 0:59:36there, lower than this in rural areas. By the end of the night, more
0:59:36 > 0:59:39cloud building in from the south-west, this is an area of low
0:59:39 > 0:59:44pressure which is coming our way, cloudy spilling across southern
0:59:44 > 0:59:47parts of England and Wales, later rain will come in, the wind will
0:59:47 > 0:59:52strengthen. But move away from the south, and other beautiful day, a
0:59:52 > 0:59:56lot of dry weather and sunshine around, wintry showers more
0:59:56 > 1:00:01especially on the hills of Scotland, temperatures roughly 8-10, maybe 11.
1:00:01 > 1:00:07With this area of low pressure, we will be pulling in some milder air,
1:00:07 > 1:00:10and with the cloud and rain, that will migrate northwards as we go
1:00:10 > 1:00:15through the course of the weekend, so we will notice a lift in
1:00:15 > 1:00:19temperatures. Having said that, the weather is not going to be pretty.
1:00:19 > 1:00:24You can see that here in graphical form, on Saturday, as low pressure
1:00:24 > 1:00:28moves north, it brings this cloud and rain, snow on the leading edge
1:00:28 > 1:00:32in Scotland, more especially with height. But look at the
1:00:32 > 1:00:41temperatures, maybe even 14 degrees. In the north of Scotland, 6-7. Then
1:00:41 > 1:00:45by the time we get to Sunday, the low pressure will have pulled this
1:00:45 > 1:00:49weather front into the far north of Scotland, clearing the mainland,
1:00:49 > 1:00:53reducing rain and snow across the Northern Isles. Behind it, there
1:00:53 > 1:00:57will be a lot of cloud. Now, there will be some breaks McLeod, some of
1:00:57 > 1:01:01us will see brighter conditions, but a rash of showers coming in across
1:01:01 > 1:01:05the south-west and Wales, some getting in across southern counties
1:01:05 > 1:01:11too. Some of those could prove to be heavy. Temperatures up to 14 in the
1:01:11 > 1:01:17London area, 11 in Cardiff, looking at nine or ten across parts of
1:01:17 > 1:01:20Scotland in the back and 11 in Northern Ireland, we haven't seen
1:01:20 > 1:01:24that for a while.
1:01:24 > 1:01:30Hello, it's Thursday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
1:01:30 > 1:01:32Counterterrorism officers are working to uncover the origin
1:01:32 > 1:01:34of the nerve agent used in the attempted murder
1:01:34 > 1:01:36of ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia.
1:01:36 > 1:01:41We'll be speaking to the person who is considered Vladimir Putin's
1:01:41 > 1:01:45number one enemy.
1:01:45 > 1:01:49When you have the nerve agent, it narrows down the number who could
1:01:49 > 1:01:55have done this crime. Not many organisations in the world have
1:01:55 > 1:02:00access to nerve agents. It is something only a government can do.
1:02:00 > 1:02:06That interview in the next few minutes.
1:02:06 > 1:02:08Suspected domestic abusers could be electronically tagged or banned
1:02:08 > 1:02:10from drinking alcohol under tough new measures being proposed
1:02:10 > 1:02:11to tackle the problem.
1:02:11 > 1:02:14We will discuss that in the next half an hour.
1:02:14 > 1:02:16An urgent investigation has been launched by
1:02:16 > 1:02:18Nottingham Trent University after video of a black student
1:02:18 > 1:02:20being racially abused outside her room appeared online.
1:02:20 > 1:02:22The students suspected of being involved have
1:02:22 > 1:02:30been suspended.
1:02:31 > 1:02:37Good morning. Here is the latest news.
1:02:37 > 1:02:43Good morning.
1:02:44 > 1:02:48The Home Secretary Amber Rudd is due to make a statement in the Commons
1:02:48 > 1:02:52about the suspected murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal. It is not known
1:02:52 > 1:02:57who could have carried out the attack or word that substance was
1:02:57 > 1:03:00made. Sergei and Yulia Skripal remaining in a quotable condition in
1:03:00 > 1:03:08hospital and a policeman who went to help them is also seriously --
1:03:08 > 1:03:12remain in a critical condition in hospital.This is a serious incident
1:03:12 > 1:03:15which is why we have got the police there in full force and we are
1:03:15 > 1:03:20giving all the support we can, the medical support necessary, to the
1:03:20 > 1:03:25people affected. I am very concerned about the policeman. I would observe
1:03:25 > 1:03:28our chief medical us was that Sally Davies has said the rest of the
1:03:28 > 1:03:32public is low so I would urge the public to take comfort from that --
1:03:32 > 1:03:36Chief Medical Officer. We have been ready for a while for a number of
1:03:36 > 1:03:39different types of terrorist activity and we're making sure we
1:03:39 > 1:03:43give the public support and contain the dissident the incident and have
1:03:43 > 1:03:53the evidence so that when we come to it, we will know what to do.
1:03:53 > 1:03:54Suspected domestic abusers could be electronically tagged,
1:03:54 > 1:03:56as part of new government proposals.
1:03:56 > 1:03:58A consultation has been launched on a set of measures
1:03:58 > 1:04:01for England and Wales, which also include the first legal
1:04:01 > 1:04:02definition of economic abuse and a commissioner
1:04:02 > 1:04:03to oversee the issue.
1:04:03 > 1:04:05The Government is also suggesting tougher sentences
1:04:05 > 1:04:07for cases involving children, and possible court orders
1:04:07 > 1:04:10which could include tagging or alcohol bans.
1:04:10 > 1:04:13Nottingham Trent University say they have suspended students
1:04:13 > 1:04:20accused of racist chanting at a young black female student.
1:04:24 > 1:04:28Rufaro Chisango was alone in her room on Monday night
1:04:28 > 1:04:32when she heard the drunken students shouting and put a video of
1:04:32 > 1:04:38the abuse up on Twitter yesterday.
1:04:38 > 1:04:41Two teenagers have died and two children are among
1:04:41 > 1:04:43the injured after a three-car crash in North Yorkshire.
1:04:43 > 1:04:46The boys, believed to be aged 17, died at the scene on the A61
1:04:46 > 1:04:47near Thirsk, last night.
1:04:47 > 1:04:49Five adults and two children were taken to hospital.
1:04:49 > 1:04:53Police have appealed for anyone who saw what happened to get in touch.
1:04:53 > 1:04:58The trial of a Danish man accused of murdering a female
1:04:58 > 1:05:02journalist aboard his homemade submarine and then
1:05:02 > 1:05:06cutting up her corpse has opened in Copenhagen.
1:05:06 > 1:05:08Inventor Peter Madsen admits dismembering Kim Wall's body,
1:05:08 > 1:05:10and throwing it out to sea, but denies killing her.
1:05:10 > 1:05:13Ms Wall was working on a story about Madsen when she went
1:05:13 > 1:05:19missing last August.
1:05:19 > 1:05:21Bonuses for 84,000 staff at John Lewis
1:05:21 > 1:05:27and Waitrose have been cut for the fifth year in a row.
1:05:28 > 1:05:32There was a dramatic fall in profits. Employees will get a 5%
1:05:32 > 1:05:38bonus, down from 6% last year.
1:05:38 > 1:05:41The announcement comes after it posted a 77% fall
1:05:41 > 1:05:45in pre-tax profits to £103.9 million for the year to the end of January.
1:05:45 > 1:05:49That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.
1:05:49 > 1:05:53The latest sport in the moment.
1:05:53 > 1:05:58After 10.30 - we're focusing on International Women's Day -
1:05:58 > 1:06:00and we'll be asking these women what's the best thing
1:06:00 > 1:06:04about being a woman in 2018.
1:06:04 > 1:06:10That is after half past ten. You can tell me what you think is being --
1:06:10 > 1:06:16what you think is the best thing about being a woman in 2018. Many of
1:06:16 > 1:06:21you have been getting in touch about the racist incident at Nottingham
1:06:21 > 1:06:26Trent R Crean Vestey. My daughter is at this university, I am appalled to
1:06:26 > 1:06:32see this -- Nottingham Trent University. This happened to my
1:06:32 > 1:06:35daughter, my daughter had to leave her room and take a break from her
1:06:35 > 1:06:41course because it's caused her so much stress and she had a breakdown.
1:06:41 > 1:06:48Someone at the University has to support the students. An anonymous
1:06:48 > 1:06:52text, they should be expelled. Keep your comments coming in.
1:06:52 > 1:06:54Here's some sport now with Hugh.
1:06:54 > 1:06:57England have named their team for Le Crunch this weekend -
1:06:57 > 1:06:59the crucial meeting with France in rugby union's Six
1:06:59 > 1:07:00Nations this weekend.
1:07:00 > 1:07:03Captain Dylan Hartley will miss the match with a calf injury -
1:07:03 > 1:07:05he's replaced at hooker by Jamie George.
1:07:05 > 1:07:10Elliot Daly, scoring here, returns on the wing,
1:07:10 > 1:07:12while Owen Farrell will skipper the side in Hartley's absence
1:07:12 > 1:07:19for the match in Paris on Saturday.
1:07:19 > 1:07:32Difficult night for Tottenham in the Champions League last night.
1:07:32 > 1:07:40Juventus defender Giorgio Chiellini said they were fragile mentally.
1:07:48 > 1:07:54Mauricio Pochettino responded to some criticism they have had.Lack
1:07:54 > 1:07:56of experience, lack of concentration, with how many chances
1:07:56 > 1:08:04we conceded... On the first leg and the second leg today, I think we
1:08:04 > 1:08:08conceded three chances and they scored twice and we played a lot of
1:08:08 > 1:08:14chances and we only scored one. Phil Neville has urged his players to
1:08:14 > 1:08:18remember the pain of missing out on winning the She Believes Cup last
1:08:18 > 1:08:28night.
1:08:28 > 1:08:30Needing at least a draw, they were beaten 1-0
1:08:30 > 1:08:38by the United States in Orlando.
1:08:40 > 1:08:46The opportunity we get to build and try to entertain as well, we have to
1:08:46 > 1:08:54use our strengths to the best we can and I feel like Phil allows us to do
1:08:54 > 1:08:57that and he instilled belief in what we are doing, really excited because
1:08:57 > 1:09:01we have been together a few weeks and we have already made quite a lot
1:09:01 > 1:09:06of progress. A lot of exciting things to come, I think. Snowboarder
1:09:06 > 1:09:13Owen Pick has been selected for the GB flag bearer for the Paralympics
1:09:13 > 1:09:15Winter
1:09:15 > 1:09:20GB flag bearer for the Paralympics Winter.The Russian athletes have
1:09:20 > 1:09:23not been fully reinstated as an Olympic and Paralympic nation just
1:09:23 > 1:09:31yet, but the athletes he believes are clean...We have been working
1:09:31 > 1:09:36through independent task force with the Russian Paralympic committee,
1:09:36 > 1:09:41and we have criteria agreed for their reinstatement, they have not
1:09:41 > 1:09:46met it yet, but the progress they have made, and when we took the
1:09:46 > 1:09:50decision in January, 18 months after Rio de Janeiro, the situation has
1:09:50 > 1:09:54changed, we are now in a situation where we can say with some degree of
1:09:54 > 1:09:57confidence that athletes competing here are as clean as any other
1:09:57 > 1:10:03athletes.That is all the sport for now. More later on.
1:10:03 > 1:10:06It's now known that a nerve agent was used in the suspected poisoning
1:10:06 > 1:10:08of a former Russian double agent and his daughter.
1:10:08 > 1:10:11Sergei and Yulia Skripal were found unconscious in Salisbury on Sunday
1:10:11 > 1:10:15afternoon and remain critically ill.
1:10:15 > 1:10:19The Russian Government has said the incident is being used
1:10:19 > 1:10:24as provocation as part of an anti-Russian smear campaign.
1:10:24 > 1:10:27A British police officer is also being treated in hospital.
1:10:27 > 1:10:30This morning, I spoke with Bill Browder -
1:10:30 > 1:10:33who was once described as Vladimir Putin's number one enemy
1:10:33 > 1:10:41and deported from Russia for exposing corruption there .
1:10:41 > 1:10:43And Sir Tony Brenton, the UK's former ambassador
1:10:43 > 1:10:45to Moscow from 2004 to 2008.
1:10:45 > 1:10:49I asked first of all how they reacted to the news and nerve agent
1:10:49 > 1:10:54had been used to poison Sergei Skripal and his daughter.The fact
1:10:54 > 1:10:57they have used effectively a chemical weapon is highly
1:10:57 > 1:11:02significant. Everyone was saying, slowdown, do not blame anyone, do
1:11:02 > 1:11:07not blame the Russians, when you have a chemical weapon, a nerve
1:11:07 > 1:11:10agent, that totally narrows the possibility of who could have done
1:11:10 > 1:11:15this crime, there are not that many organisations in the world that have
1:11:15 > 1:11:21access to nerve agents. Generally a government type of... It is
1:11:21 > 1:11:25something only a government can do. Because you cannot knock up a nerve
1:11:25 > 1:11:30agent in your garden shed, it has to be a proper lab, potentially
1:11:30 > 1:11:35state-sponsored?Just like the polonium 210 back in the day with
1:11:35 > 1:11:41Litvinenko, sarin or some similar type of thing, it is something only
1:11:41 > 1:11:44a high level and malicious government could use because it is
1:11:44 > 1:11:49not even something... We are trying to eliminate chemical weapons in the
1:11:49 > 1:11:53world and we know that North Korea uses them, Assad uses them and
1:11:53 > 1:11:59Russia has access to them.We do not know it is sarin yet, we just know,
1:11:59 > 1:12:04we have confirmation it is some kind of nerve agent. Tony Brenton, how do
1:12:04 > 1:12:09you react to the fact the nerve agent has been used?I agree with
1:12:09 > 1:12:12Bill, it immensely increases the probability it was the Russian
1:12:12 > 1:12:15government that did it. Nevertheless, the British
1:12:15 > 1:12:18authorities will be looking for more substantive proof of a link between
1:12:18 > 1:12:21the use of the agent and the Russians in particular. It is worth
1:12:21 > 1:12:25noting it is not only government to use this, sarin was used on the
1:12:25 > 1:12:30Tokyo Metro a few years ago. Nevertheless, the high property as
1:12:30 > 1:12:35it is the
1:12:41 > 1:12:43Russians and the probability.We need evidence.We need evidence to
1:12:43 > 1:12:46go to court but if we want to determine what to do for public
1:12:46 > 1:12:49safety, we need to make some assumptions. We should not wait five
1:12:49 > 1:12:51years to come to a conclusion. If Putin and Russia have been using
1:12:51 > 1:12:54chemical weapons in this country, and we believe there is a high
1:12:54 > 1:12:58probably do we have done so, that necessitates an urgent policy
1:12:58 > 1:13:05response, you cannot just say, let us wait until it is proven. If there
1:13:05 > 1:13:09is a 75% probability, 80% probability, it may not hold up in
1:13:09 > 1:13:12court, but in terms of policy response, how you deal with this,
1:13:12 > 1:13:16approach Russia, deal with public safety, we should be thinking about
1:13:16 > 1:13:21that right this second.What is an urgent policy response in your view?
1:13:21 > 1:13:25There are many Russian sleeper agents that we are aware of in this
1:13:25 > 1:13:32country...Explain to us what a sleeper agent is.Russia has people
1:13:32 > 1:13:37that work in the embassy and they have people who go about their
1:13:37 > 1:13:42regular day-to-day lives here pretending they are just bankers,
1:13:42 > 1:13:45accountants, journalists, whatever. This is an act of terrorism.And in
1:13:45 > 1:13:50fact, they are what, spies?They are spies. Remember Anna Chapman here in
1:13:50 > 1:13:55London before she went to New York, the famous female spy, she was
1:13:55 > 1:14:03working at Barclays Bank, so at this point, this is a major terrorist
1:14:03 > 1:14:10incident and we should be using our prevention of terror tools to figure
1:14:10 > 1:14:14out exactly what the Russians are up to because this is not a low-level
1:14:14 > 1:14:19matter. People are potentially going to die from this.Would you agree
1:14:19 > 1:14:24with that assessment, said Tony Brenton?I agree with Bill it is the
1:14:24 > 1:14:29terrorist incident. I dealt with the Litvinenko affair in 2006 and there
1:14:29 > 1:14:34are lots of parallels. There were public safety issues because the
1:14:34 > 1:14:38Russians used polonium that time, a radioactive poison. We took the
1:14:38 > 1:14:42decision that the likelihood of an early repetition was low so the
1:14:42 > 1:14:48threat to public safety was low. And we took the view too that in order
1:14:48 > 1:14:53to act effectively, to minimise the possibility of a recurrence, we
1:14:53 > 1:14:57needed clear evidence as possible to get that it was the Russians and
1:14:57 > 1:15:01then we set out the policies in response. I am sure the authorities
1:15:01 > 1:15:04will take exactly the same approach this time. You look at the evidence,
1:15:04 > 1:15:08assemble what you hope is a clear case that it is the Russians, and if
1:15:08 > 1:15:13it is, it is not yet proven, but highly probable, and then you have a
1:15:13 > 1:15:17firm basis for your own national response but also seeking wider
1:15:17 > 1:15:24international support for what you do.Go on.Can I react to that? Tony
1:15:24 > 1:15:29and I have known each other for a long time and...You disagree?I
1:15:29 > 1:15:35totally disagree. The Litvinenko is an exact case study in how not to
1:15:35 > 1:15:41manage this. He'll have a situation where we have proven, a High Court
1:15:41 > 1:15:45judge, the FSB, the Russian secret police, it was behind a nuclear
1:15:45 > 1:15:50attack in the centre of London...It took a number of years for that.We
1:15:50 > 1:15:55took no action in this country. As a result, it laid out the welcome mat
1:15:55 > 1:15:59to do more hits in this country. It is not just this one we are talking
1:15:59 > 1:16:05about, there was a man who died jogging outside his home in Surrey
1:16:05 > 1:16:08after exposing the Russian government in major financial
1:16:08 > 1:16:16crimes. Same thing. No consequence. If you create a situation, all this
1:16:16 > 1:16:19gentlemanly behaviour, let us wait and see and maybe do something,
1:16:19 > 1:16:26maybe not... It does not work.Could I respond to that? I do not want to
1:16:26 > 1:16:30get into an argument with Bill, on television, for whom I have the
1:16:30 > 1:16:33highest esteem, but the statement we had no response to the Litvinenko
1:16:33 > 1:16:37affair is wrong. We put together a package of sanctions designed to
1:16:37 > 1:16:40discourage the Russians from doing this kind of thing.It did not work,
1:16:40 > 1:16:46it would seem.
1:16:46 > 1:16:49The only plausible case since Litvinenko whether the oceans may
1:16:49 > 1:16:54have acted is now, but Sergei Skripal, we are still testing that,
1:16:54 > 1:16:59and that has been 12 years since Litvinenko, the background political
1:16:59 > 1:17:02situation has changed completely. Cases like Perepilichny and others,
1:17:02 > 1:17:06of course, have been around. It is worth emphasising that those cases
1:17:06 > 1:17:09have been properly investigated by police, and they have concluded
1:17:09 > 1:17:15there is not enough evidence of a link for us to make it.Earlier this
1:17:15 > 1:17:18week, you told MPs that the Kremlin most likely wants you dead, you were
1:17:18 > 1:17:23asked how you were still here, what is the answer?The Kremlin doesn't
1:17:23 > 1:17:29like to get caught killing people, so Tony's logic is exactly what they
1:17:29 > 1:17:35are feeding into, which is, unless it can be proven, they can get away
1:17:35 > 1:17:38with it. So far they have not figured out a way to kill me without
1:17:38 > 1:17:43getting caught, and I'm sure... Sorry to interrupt, not that I know
1:17:43 > 1:17:47much about this, but they could simply spray a nerve agent in your
1:17:47 > 1:17:51face.This is why this is so terrifying. At the moment, nobody
1:17:51 > 1:17:55has tried to shoot at me or blow me up, but this nerve agent stuff, the
1:17:55 > 1:17:59fact that they can do it in a foreign country and get away with it
1:17:59 > 1:18:04is terrifying, for me and every other person that is at odds with
1:18:04 > 1:18:08the Russian government.How do you protect yourself? At any moment, in
1:18:08 > 1:18:13a bar or restaurant, your food or drink could be spiked, you could be
1:18:13 > 1:18:16walking to the station, somebody drops something on your skin.That
1:18:16 > 1:18:21the whole purpose of what they have done here, it is called terrorism,
1:18:21 > 1:18:25to try to create terror in everyone of their enemies, and people say,
1:18:25 > 1:18:31why do they do this to this man? The answer is he was probably a tiny
1:18:31 > 1:18:34part of why they did it, they did it to say to everybody else, here is
1:18:34 > 1:18:39what we are capable of.How worried are you for your safety?I don't
1:18:39 > 1:18:43spend my life living in fear, because that would mean they
1:18:43 > 1:18:47succeed, but I take precautions to make sure they don't kill me.Wow.
1:18:47 > 1:18:53You said that so matter of factly.I have been living with it for eight
1:18:53 > 1:18:59and our peers.You may not want to tell me... I am not asking about
1:18:59 > 1:19:02physical measures, but psychologically what impact has it
1:19:02 > 1:19:07had on you?I am a perfectly happy person, working on a mission to get
1:19:07 > 1:19:12justice for Sergei Magnitsky, my lawyer, who was killed in Russia,
1:19:12 > 1:19:16and we are succeeding in getting sanctions and laws named after him,
1:19:16 > 1:19:21all over the world, including here in the UK. And I am on a righteous
1:19:21 > 1:19:26mission to do that. That is very satisfying.And the practical effect
1:19:26 > 1:19:31of sanctions, does it have an effect on President Putin?He is a very
1:19:31 > 1:19:35rich man. He is very rich from crimes in which he has stolen money
1:19:35 > 1:19:40from his own country, and he values money more than human like, so if
1:19:40 > 1:19:47you go after his money, that is something he takes seriously.
1:19:47 > 1:19:53Still to come - today is International Women's Day.
1:19:53 > 1:19:57We want to ask this group of women and girls what is the best thing
1:19:57 > 1:20:00about being a woman in Britain in 2018, and the follow-up, what is the
1:20:00 > 1:20:08worst? We will bring you the latest news and sport and about ten
1:20:08 > 1:20:11minutes' time. But before that, we're talking about domestic abuse.
1:20:11 > 1:20:1482 women and 13 men were killed by their partner or former partner
1:20:14 > 1:20:16in 2016-17 in England and Wales, according to Theresa May.
1:20:16 > 1:20:18Today the Government is launching
1:20:18 > 1:20:20what it calls a "once in a generation opportunity"
1:20:20 > 1:20:23to protect victims of domestic abuse.
1:20:23 > 1:20:29Our correspondent Lucinda Adams is here.
1:20:29 > 1:20:33OK, let's talk through the proposals, what is being suggested?
1:20:33 > 1:20:38Well, ministers want to add to powers to act faster, so if they
1:20:38 > 1:20:42suspect abuse, at quite an early stage, they can ask the abuser to
1:20:42 > 1:20:45wear an electronic tag or ban them from drinking alcohol or taking
1:20:45 > 1:20:50drugs. They can also make them seek treatment for addiction to those
1:20:50 > 1:20:53substances or go to behaviour classes to try to change their
1:20:53 > 1:20:58attitudes. If they breach these orders, they will be arrested.OK.
1:20:58 > 1:21:01And there is going to be a definition of domestic abuse which
1:21:01 > 1:21:06will include, for the first time, economic abuse, what does that mean?
1:21:06 > 1:21:15We know that abuse takes many forms, physical and sexual, more recently
1:21:15 > 1:21:17we have become aware of psychological and emotional abuse,
1:21:17 > 1:21:20what we call coercive control, but for the first time economic abuse
1:21:20 > 1:21:23will be recognised, controlling someone's finances, restricting
1:21:23 > 1:21:27access to their money, preventing them from getting a job, causing
1:21:27 > 1:21:32them to lose it, or even running up debts in their name. Ultimately, it
1:21:32 > 1:21:34means the person can't support themselves and becomes more
1:21:34 > 1:21:40dependent on their partner.And for domestic abuse cases involving
1:21:40 > 1:21:43children, there will be more stringent sentences for the
1:21:43 > 1:21:47perpetrator.That is right. Unfortunately, one in five children
1:21:47 > 1:21:52are exposed to domestic abuse, and they want to make sure that when
1:21:52 > 1:21:56sentences are being handed out, it is seen as an aggravating factor, so
1:21:56 > 1:22:00the sentences are tougher. That is because it is thought that children
1:22:00 > 1:22:04exposed to domestic express for more likely to experience abuse by a
1:22:04 > 1:22:08partner as an adult, Anderson today and £80 million fund is being
1:22:08 > 1:22:13announced to support children who have been exposed to domestic abuse.
1:22:13 > 1:22:19-- and so today and £80 million fund is being announced.
1:22:19 > 1:22:21Let's get reaction now from Katie Ghose.
1:22:21 > 1:22:23She's chief executive of Women's Aid,
1:22:23 > 1:22:24which supports victims of abuse.
1:22:24 > 1:22:27And Mark Brooks, from the charity ManKind Initiative, which helps men
1:22:27 > 1:22:30escape violent relationships.
1:22:30 > 1:22:34OK, where'd you want to start with these proposals? Let's start with
1:22:34 > 1:22:39the new domestic abuse protection orders, enabling courts to impose a
1:22:39 > 1:22:44range of restrictions, as Lucinda said, banning them from contacting
1:22:44 > 1:22:47victims, from drinking, wearing a tag potentially, don't we already
1:22:47 > 1:22:51have that in injunctions?There are some orders in place already, but we
1:22:51 > 1:22:59welcome the gaze going from the victims to the perpetrators, we
1:22:59 > 1:23:03welcome the direction the Government is going, but whilst the police and
1:23:03 > 1:23:07courts are essential, many women won't be able to go to them, so it
1:23:07 > 1:23:11is important that it is everyone's business, get all the agencies
1:23:11 > 1:23:15involved in protecting and preventing this awful crime.And how
1:23:15 > 1:23:20do you react? Above very similarly, and what is important is that this
1:23:20 > 1:23:25really makes a change in opportunity to see domestic abuse not only is
1:23:25 > 1:23:29everyone's businessbut as an issue that affects women and men, and also
1:23:29 > 1:23:34children as well. So I think this will be game changing in the way
1:23:34 > 1:23:38that society actually views domestic abuse.I am interested that you say
1:23:38 > 1:23:45because this idea of the suspect, the perpetrator, being banned from
1:23:45 > 1:23:48contacting victims. Injunctions are supposed to do that. I have
1:23:48 > 1:23:53interviewed so many women over the years to say, well, my violent ex
1:23:53 > 1:23:56breached the injection, the police didn't do anything, because they are
1:23:56 > 1:24:00really busy and resources are stretched, they won't spend time
1:24:00 > 1:24:04chasing him up for breaching the injection, so the women feel
1:24:04 > 1:24:08vulnerable again.This is why we are pleased to see the Government
1:24:08 > 1:24:17consulting on criminalising breach. We hear this time and again,
1:24:17 > 1:24:18We hear this time and again, and there have been awful situations,
1:24:18 > 1:24:20relationship abuse happens after relationships are over as well, that
1:24:20 > 1:24:21can be very dangerous, so criminalisation of breaching the
1:24:21 > 1:24:28order, that is another tool in the box for police.OK. The definition
1:24:28 > 1:24:34for domestic abuse now including economic abuse, which... We do have
1:24:34 > 1:24:36existing measures which recognise financial abuse, but this will
1:24:36 > 1:24:42reportedly include depriving some of your food, clothing, transport - you
1:24:42 > 1:24:46welcome that?Absolutely, that is an issue mark that has been overlooked
1:24:46 > 1:24:55for too long now, often society and police and others view domestic
1:24:55 > 1:25:00abuse has been just about violence, but it is more than that,
1:25:00 > 1:25:03psychological, and economic is really important, and that is
1:25:03 > 1:25:08included, because when that is now included, it means that we will have
1:25:08 > 1:25:13a broader view of domestic abuse, and we recognise that it is not just
1:25:13 > 1:25:17about the violence.Katie, just explain, because some people don't
1:25:17 > 1:25:21understand, how does this really happen, that one person could stop
1:25:21 > 1:25:27their partner from getting access to their bank account or being able to
1:25:27 > 1:25:32take the car out? They don't believe that is a reality.Power and control
1:25:32 > 1:25:35is at the heart of domestic abuse, and that is why we are really
1:25:35 > 1:25:41pleased to see the spotlight on economic and financial abuse. It can
1:25:41 > 1:25:45take all forms, from taking charge of somebody's wages right through to
1:25:45 > 1:25:48committing benefit fraud in their name, so it is important that we
1:25:48 > 1:25:52understand that. I know from talking to survivors, sometimes the
1:25:52 > 1:25:58financial control is an early warning sign that other abuse and
1:25:58 > 1:26:03control will follow, physical and sexual will come later on, and that
1:26:03 > 1:26:07is horrific too.And this proposal, they are all proposals to be
1:26:07 > 1:26:11consulted on over the next few months, that if children are
1:26:11 > 1:26:14involved, the sentence could potentially be more stringent.I
1:26:14 > 1:26:21think that is very welcome. I mean, for far too long, actually, the
1:26:21 > 1:26:25effect on children has been overlooked, the focus has been on
1:26:25 > 1:26:29the adults, whether as perpetrators or victims, but the effect on
1:26:29 > 1:26:33children has to be taken into account, so stronger and tougher
1:26:33 > 1:26:39sentences in these cases really will be welcomed, they send a strong
1:26:39 > 1:26:43message, and again change society's view of who the victims are of
1:26:43 > 1:26:47domestic abuse.Would they act as more of a deterrent, more stringent
1:26:47 > 1:26:52sentences if children are involved? It is possible, it sends out a
1:26:52 > 1:26:55signal that children are often not seen or heard. It is amazing, I
1:26:55 > 1:26:59spend a lot of time visiting refuges, and over half of the
1:26:59 > 1:27:03residents are children, and yet the resources are not always there for
1:27:03 > 1:27:12them to get the help they need, which is why we need more action
1:27:12 > 1:27:14which is why we need more action on this as well.I wanted to ask about
1:27:14 > 1:27:16refugees, because while the Government is launching these
1:27:16 > 1:27:21proposals, people who run refugees? Refuges are criticising the
1:27:21 > 1:27:24Government for removing the ability for housing benefit to be used to
1:27:24 > 1:27:31pay for a place, so those who run them say they depend 50% for fans on
1:27:31 > 1:27:34housing benefit, refuges will have to close. What you think of the
1:27:34 > 1:27:39Government doing that on one hand but then that on the other?These
1:27:39 > 1:27:41are risky proposals, dangerous proposals, but we are pleased that
1:27:41 > 1:27:45the Government has said they are listening, they want there to be a
1:27:45 > 1:27:49sustainable solution for the future of refuges and other domestic abuse
1:27:49 > 1:27:53services as well. We need them to take the next step and give a
1:27:53 > 1:27:56cast-iron guarantee that the risky proposals that would take a local
1:27:56 > 1:27:59approach to what has to be a national network of services will
1:27:59 > 1:28:03come off the table and we can work together to find a sustainable
1:28:03 > 1:28:08solution.The statement I have does not suggest it will come off the
1:28:08 > 1:28:11table, it says, yes, we are looking for a sustainable funding model
1:28:11 > 1:28:17without a postcode lottery, we have provided 20 million for
1:28:17 > 1:28:20accommodation based services.Demand already outstrips supply, 94 women
1:28:20 > 1:28:25and 90 children were turned away one day last year in England alone, so
1:28:25 > 1:28:28we want to work with the Government to find a solution that means that
1:28:28 > 1:28:34every survivor gets the help they need.This anonymous e-mail, one
1:28:34 > 1:28:39topic I have not seen raises that some people do not want to prosecute
1:28:39 > 1:28:42their violent or controlling partners because their children
1:28:42 > 1:28:46would be financially penalised. My ex-husband had a very good career,
1:28:46 > 1:28:50and whilst I gave my nap to have my children, if I had publicly
1:28:50 > 1:28:53criminalised him, when we left him, he would have lost his job and our
1:28:53 > 1:28:59children would not have had much to live on. I mean, what can you do
1:28:59 > 1:29:03about that? What is the advice there?This just shows the
1:29:03 > 1:29:06complexities and the levels of control and abuse that happen in a
1:29:06 > 1:29:10relationship and outside the relationship as well. Many women
1:29:10 > 1:29:13have a well founded fear that their children will be taken away from
1:29:13 > 1:29:17them, that they will be blamed for the crime, instead of the
1:29:17 > 1:29:20perpetrator, and that is why we welcome the Government putting the
1:29:20 > 1:29:23days of the perpetrator, instead of the victim being told to take care
1:29:23 > 1:29:29of herself and her safety.Thank you both very much.
1:29:29 > 1:29:32The NHS in England has released its latest figures
1:29:32 > 1:29:34showing how well the country's A&E departments and hospitals
1:29:34 > 1:29:37are coping with winter pressures.
1:29:37 > 1:29:43Our health editor, Hugh Pym, is here.
1:29:44 > 1:29:48Where are you? Oh, you are there! Shall I come over? Shall I stay
1:29:48 > 1:29:56here!I can talk from here I can fill us in!
1:29:56 > 1:30:02The latest figures from the NHS in England for February and January, a
1:30:02 > 1:30:04difficult winter with pressures on hospitals and GPs and patiently mat
1:30:04 > 1:30:10waiting longer, in England, the number of patients being treated and
1:30:10 > 1:30:17assessed in the target, for hours, in A&E units, February fell a bit
1:30:17 > 1:30:27even from January. Wilson know how many routine operations and
1:30:27 > 1:30:31procedures was postponed -- we also know. There was any doubt, but
1:30:31 > 1:30:34everything not urgent on hold because of a shortage of beds,
1:30:34 > 1:30:42because of the real pressures for emergency care. NHS are saying
1:30:42 > 1:30:4523,000 fewer routine operations were carried out in England in January
1:30:45 > 1:30:50than the previous January which was itself very pressurised.What about
1:30:50 > 1:30:56A&E, why are the wait so long?It is a continuation of pressures we saw
1:30:56 > 1:31:02in January, flu was a lot worse this year, more cases admitted to
1:31:02 > 1:31:07hospital as a result of influenza, more people going to GPs. NHS
1:31:07 > 1:31:11England said that continued in February. More cases of Nora virus,
1:31:11 > 1:31:16cold weather at the end of February, but the general picture, as we have
1:31:16 > 1:31:19said so many times, the extreme pressure on the NHS, issues with
1:31:19 > 1:31:23social care, people being stuck in hospital when they are ready to
1:31:23 > 1:31:28leave, fewer beds for people coming in, all of the bigger picture
1:31:28 > 1:31:33pressure on the health service. Thank you very much.
1:31:33 > 1:31:36Still to come...
1:31:36 > 1:31:44What is the best thing about being a woman or a girl in 2018? That is one
1:31:44 > 1:31:54of the questions we asking as it is International Women's Day.
1:31:54 > 1:31:56Amazon are working to fix Alexa after users reported that random
1:31:56 > 1:31:59bursts of creepy laughter have been coming from the device.
1:31:59 > 1:32:05We will talk about that in the next half an hour. The headlines now on
1:32:05 > 1:32:07BBC News.
1:32:07 > 1:32:10The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is due to make a statement this
1:32:10 > 1:32:13lunchtime in the House of Commons about the nerve agent used
1:32:13 > 1:32:15in the attempted murder of a former Russian spy and his daughter.
1:32:15 > 1:32:18While police have now identified the type of chemical,
1:32:18 > 1:32:21it's not yet known where it was made or who could have
1:32:21 > 1:32:22carried out the attack.
1:32:22 > 1:32:24Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain in a critical condition in hospital.
1:32:24 > 1:32:28A policeman who went to help them was also seriously injured.
1:32:28 > 1:32:30Nottingham Trent University says it has suspended
1:32:30 > 1:32:32students accused of racist chanting apparently aimed at a young
1:32:32 > 1:32:38black female student.
1:32:38 > 1:32:43We hate blacks.
1:32:43 > 1:32:44Rufaro Chisango was alone
1:32:44 > 1:32:47in her room on Monday night when she heard the drunken
1:32:47 > 1:32:49students shouting and put a video of the abuse up
1:32:49 > 1:32:50on Twitter yesterday.
1:32:50 > 1:32:52Suspected domestic abusers could be electronically tagged,
1:32:52 > 1:32:56as part of new government proposals.
1:32:56 > 1:32:59A consultation has been launched on a set of measures
1:32:59 > 1:33:01for England and Wales, which also include the first legal
1:33:01 > 1:33:03definition of economic abuse and a commissioner
1:33:03 > 1:33:06to oversee the issue.
1:33:06 > 1:33:08The Government is also suggesting tougher sentences
1:33:08 > 1:33:10for cases involving children, and possible court orders
1:33:10 > 1:33:13which could include tagging or alcohol bans.
1:33:13 > 1:33:16Two teenagers have died and two children are among
1:33:16 > 1:33:20the injured after a three-car crash in North Yorkshire.
1:33:20 > 1:33:23The boys, believed to be aged 17, died at the scene on the A61
1:33:23 > 1:33:24near Thirsk, last night.
1:33:24 > 1:33:27Five adults and two children were taken to hospital.
1:33:27 > 1:33:32Police have appealed for anyone who saw what happened to get in touch.
1:33:32 > 1:33:36The trial of a Danish man accused of murdering a female
1:33:36 > 1:33:38journalist aboard his homemade submarine, and then
1:33:38 > 1:33:42cutting up her corpse, has opened in Copenhagen.
1:33:42 > 1:33:44Inventor Peter Madsen admits dismembering Kim Wall's body,
1:33:44 > 1:33:49and throwing it out to sea, but denies killing her.
1:33:49 > 1:33:51She was working on a story about Madsen when she went
1:33:51 > 1:33:52missing last August.
1:33:52 > 1:33:56That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
1:33:56 > 1:34:02Here's some sport now with Hugh.
1:34:02 > 1:34:07Eddie Jones has named his team for the crucial meeting with France in
1:34:07 > 1:34:11rugby Union's Six Nations this weekend. Captain Dylan Hartley will
1:34:11 > 1:34:16miss the match, first time under Jones, calf injury, replaced at
1:34:16 > 1:34:21hooker by Jamie George, Owen Farrell will skipper the side. Tottenham
1:34:21 > 1:34:28boss Mauricio Pochettino denied his lack of experience was to blame for
1:34:28 > 1:34:32their Champions League exit at the hands of Juventus.
1:34:32 > 1:34:34The Italian champions go through to the quarterfinals
1:34:34 > 1:34:36after their 2-1 win
1:34:36 > 1:34:36at Wembley yesterday sealed
1:34:36 > 1:34:37a 4-3 aggregate victory.
1:34:37 > 1:34:39Paulo Dybala scored the decider.
1:34:39 > 1:34:41Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola said his team forgot to attack
1:34:41 > 1:34:43as they lost 2-1 to FC basel.
1:34:43 > 1:34:46City do make it through to the quarters 5-2 on aggregate
1:34:46 > 1:34:48but were beaten at home for the first time since 2016.
1:34:48 > 1:34:52Phil Neville has urged his players to remember the pain of missing out
1:34:52 > 1:34:57on winning their She Believes Cup. They needed a draw against the US
1:34:57 > 1:35:04but they were beaten in Orlando. More after 11.
1:35:04 > 1:35:06Some people are saying their Amazon Alexa device has
1:35:06 > 1:35:08been been letting out an unprompted, creepy cackle.
1:35:08 > 1:35:16Let's hear it now.
1:35:24 > 1:35:27The laugh, described by some as witch-like, is reported
1:35:27 > 1:35:29to happen even without the device being given the wake-up command.
1:35:29 > 1:35:32Voice assistants like Alexa are designed to respond or act only
1:35:32 > 1:35:34when prompted with a wake word, but this apparent glitch
1:35:34 > 1:35:36is happening without any prior interaction.
1:35:36 > 1:35:38Here's what some people on Twitter have been saying.
1:35:38 > 1:35:40Gavin on Twitter said, "Lying in bed about to fall asleep
1:35:40 > 1:35:43when Alexa lets out a very loud and creepy laugh."
1:35:43 > 1:35:45"There's a good chance I might get murdered tonight."
1:35:45 > 1:35:48Kat tweeted to say, "So I just used my Alexa to set a two-minute
1:35:48 > 1:35:52timer while trying to do a plank, and I asked how much time I had
1:35:52 > 1:35:57left and she laughed."
1:35:57 > 1:35:58@malarkeysalad on Twitter said, "Alexa just randomly laughing
1:35:58 > 1:36:03and there is no-one talking in my house."
1:36:03 > 1:36:06The tweets are ahead of me.
1:36:06 > 1:36:08"My cat and I just looked at each other like..."
1:36:08 > 1:36:11And Kamo tweeted to say his Alexa was also behaving oddly.
1:36:11 > 1:36:13He said, "This creepy thing happened last night."
1:36:13 > 1:36:16"I got home and, totally unprompted, our Amazon Alexa started talking.
1:36:16 > 1:36:18And then I realised it was listing off local
1:36:18 > 1:36:19cemeteries and funeral homes."
1:36:19 > 1:36:21"I'd rather it laughed at me, to be honest."
1:36:21 > 1:36:29Amazon said it was aware of the problem and was working to fix it.
1:36:31 > 1:36:35We have talked a lot on this programme about the difficulties
1:36:35 > 1:36:38people with disabilities face getting around on public transport.
1:36:38 > 1:36:42Improvements have been made in recent years to accessibility at
1:36:42 > 1:36:46London Underground stations and there are now more than 70 which are
1:36:46 > 1:36:50either fully accessible or offer some form of step free access. But
1:36:50 > 1:36:54people with mobility issues continue to have problems using the transport
1:36:54 > 1:37:00system. Have a look at this. I work at the BBC and I am a wheelchair
1:37:00 > 1:37:04user.The Government wants disabled people like me to have a normal
1:37:04 > 1:37:12life, so do I. TFL has spent money upgrading Tottenham Court Road in
1:37:12 > 1:37:19the centre of London. It is now fully accessible and step free, but
1:37:19 > 1:37:25I have found it is not always the case. This is me on my way to work.
1:37:25 > 1:37:33I can easily get on at Stratford, but I Tottenham Court Road, the only
1:37:33 > 1:37:38way I can get on and off is by asking random passengers to help me.
1:37:38 > 1:37:41There is a 22 centimetres step between the train and the platform
1:37:41 > 1:37:47and the ramps I am entitled to use have had do not use stickers on them
1:37:47 > 1:37:51for at least the last six months. Other parts of the station really
1:37:51 > 1:37:55good. The end of this platform has been raised and signposted, it
1:37:55 > 1:38:03really easy. What I really want to know is, wide, with so much money
1:38:03 > 1:38:07being spent, why am I still stuck having to ask staff or passengers
1:38:07 > 1:38:15for persistence?It is not a step free station.-- passengers for
1:38:15 > 1:38:20assistance. Some of the ramps have not been in use for the last year.
1:38:20 > 1:38:26It is absolutely not a situation that we are happy with and that is
1:38:26 > 1:38:29why we have been working to improve it. We are in a position where in
1:38:29 > 1:38:35the next... We are talking weeks now, we are in the process of
1:38:35 > 1:38:39familiarising our staff with the use of the ramp on the westbound
1:38:39 > 1:38:42platform so that wheelchair users will be able to make use of the
1:38:42 > 1:38:47station. It has not been a great position to be in, absolutely.It is
1:38:47 > 1:38:52not just Tottenham Court Road Station, there are 270 tube stations
1:38:52 > 1:38:57in London, 72 of those are step free, but only 50 are fully
1:38:57 > 1:39:02accessible from street to train.The London Underground network is one of
1:39:02 > 1:39:09the oldest in the world. It is one of the least accessible in the
1:39:09 > 1:39:15world. That makes us angry. We want to be able to turn up at the
1:39:15 > 1:39:20station, get on the train, get off the train, without assistance. That
1:39:20 > 1:39:27has got to be the goal. That level of independence.When we asked the
1:39:27 > 1:39:32staff to help us use the ramp, it is a complicated procedure. Staff have
1:39:32 > 1:39:37two be alerted at the gate, drivers told to hold and the destination
1:39:37 > 1:39:42staff have to stand by, it takes a lot of time and effort.We take
1:39:42 > 1:39:47accessibility really seriously. It is not step free.It is a boarding
1:39:47 > 1:39:52ramp.At some locations, that is where we are and that is... We are
1:39:52 > 1:39:57constantly having to balance the money we spend on accessibility
1:39:57 > 1:40:00against the money we spend on everything else. I think we have
1:40:00 > 1:40:03demonstrated through the work we have done so far and the work we are
1:40:03 > 1:40:07planning to do in the future that we take accessibility really seriously
1:40:07 > 1:40:23and it is a property while -- and it is a priority for us.
1:40:24 > 1:40:25Today is International Women's Day.
1:40:25 > 1:40:28Its goal is to achieve gender equality for all -
1:40:28 > 1:40:30at school, in our health service, in our workplaces, our home life.
1:40:30 > 1:40:33What's it like to be a woman in Britain today?
1:40:33 > 1:40:35We've gathered nine women and girls from all walks
1:40:35 > 1:40:38of life to talk about that
1:40:38 > 1:40:44And here they are.
1:40:44 > 1:40:45Let me introduce you to Yewande Akinola,
1:40:45 > 1:40:47who has worked in construction for 11 years.
1:40:47 > 1:40:49Sam Spence, a health visitor for the NHS.
1:40:49 > 1:40:50Victoria Usher,
1:40:50 > 1:40:53she runs a global PR agency whose board is made up
1:40:53 > 1:40:56of nearly all women,
1:40:56 > 1:41:01most of them working mothers.
1:41:01 > 1:41:04Two thirds women, is that right? That is right.
1:41:04 > 1:41:09Charlotte Usher is Victoria's 11 year-old-daughter.
1:41:09 > 1:41:12Marchu Girma arrived to the UK as a refugee and now helps
1:41:12 > 1:41:13other female refugees.
1:41:13 > 1:41:15Sharon Spice, an actor and playwright who says
1:41:15 > 1:41:16she was once paid
1:41:16 > 1:41:19less than a white woman to do the same job.
1:41:19 > 1:41:21Michelle Russell says she appreciates women more
1:41:21 > 1:41:23than ever after she was recently involved in a sexual
1:41:23 > 1:41:24harassment case at work.
1:41:24 > 1:41:28She's here with her 15-year-old daughter, Esme.
1:41:28 > 1:41:29And Hayley Smith, who says International Women's day
1:41:29 > 1:41:32inspired her to set up a campaign to make sanitary products free
1:41:32 > 1:41:35for homeless women.
1:41:35 > 1:41:37What's the best thing about being a woman
1:41:37 > 1:41:40in Britain in 2018?
1:41:40 > 1:41:46I do not mind who goes first. LAUGHTER
1:41:46 > 1:41:50I really liked the fact there is a conversation happening right now.It
1:41:50 > 1:41:56feels like a really beautiful liberation, we are able to speak
1:41:56 > 1:42:00about the things we could never speak about.Is that definitely for
1:42:00 > 1:42:04you the best thing about being a woman in Britain right now?I think
1:42:04 > 1:42:08it is because there are many platforms for me to express my
1:42:08 > 1:42:12creativity, for me to hear of the amazing things other women are doing
1:42:12 > 1:42:18and this is extremely empowering. I just think, gosh, this could go...
1:42:18 > 1:42:22It could really inspire future generations, the beginning of
1:42:22 > 1:42:31something fantastic.I am definitely completely in agreement with you. My
1:42:31 > 1:42:36campaign, when I set it up two years ago, periods were not mainstream,
1:42:36 > 1:42:43people were only talking about them as a joke, and the transition,
1:42:43 > 1:42:48however people are, men and women, the media, talking seriously about
1:42:48 > 1:42:53periods, it has grown so quickly and it is an incredible platform.
1:42:53 > 1:42:57Conversations are opening up, you say, in this country that perhaps we
1:42:57 > 1:43:02have not felt were possible before? What would you say?Women are
1:43:02 > 1:43:10finding their voice, learning how to use it. Within nursing, the big pay
1:43:10 > 1:43:13campaign, female dominated profession, they are campaigning for
1:43:13 > 1:43:17equality so the tide is turning, still a long way to go, it feels
1:43:17 > 1:43:21like the shift is going in that direction, a spotlight on things and
1:43:21 > 1:43:25we are moving in the right direction.What do you say,
1:43:25 > 1:43:29Charlotte?The best thing about being a girl in 2018 is we are
1:43:29 > 1:43:32starting to join together and our generation will be the next
1:43:32 > 1:43:36generation to change almost the world about gender equality and
1:43:36 > 1:43:41things like that. I really think that is really important.Following
1:43:41 > 1:43:46on from that, it is really great we have all these great artists and
1:43:46 > 1:43:51females today, celebrating the fact it is International Women's Day, we
1:43:51 > 1:43:56have the ability of the choice to do whatever we feel we want to do, me
1:43:56 > 1:44:00being an artist, I have had the opportunity to write, to tour, that
1:44:00 > 1:44:05would not have been probably possible a few years ago...Of
1:44:05 > 1:44:13course it would!More accessible now.Because of technological
1:44:13 > 1:44:16advancement.It would have been more difficult. Now women are doing loads
1:44:16 > 1:44:21of stuff, we are engineers, directors, behind the camera, and a
1:44:21 > 1:44:26few years ago it would have been very hard, few and far between.
1:44:26 > 1:44:30Moving in the right direction, just need a little bit more momentum but
1:44:30 > 1:44:37it is happening.We have the privilege to make change, we are in
1:44:37 > 1:44:42a country that gives us some kind of privileged to be able to make change
1:44:42 > 1:44:46and as a woman coming to this country when I was 11 years old, I
1:44:46 > 1:44:51think I have come a long way... Where did you come from?How came
1:44:51 > 1:45:02from Ethiopia. I work with refugee women. There is a great sense of
1:45:02 > 1:45:08empowerment, refugee women, coming together, talking about feminism.
1:45:08 > 1:45:12That is something we have been talking about. But there is a long
1:45:12 > 1:45:17way to go. This year is a special year, 2018 marks 100 years since
1:45:17 > 1:45:21some women got the vote, but we still have in our society many women
1:45:21 > 1:45:27who do not have a voice, refugee and migrant women who do not have a
1:45:27 > 1:45:35voice, and today, we are hoping to change the tide, we have an event in
1:45:35 > 1:45:41Holland called All Women Can to highlight the fact that all women
1:45:41 > 1:45:45can't -- an event in Parliament.We have never had as much opportunity
1:45:45 > 1:45:56as we have had today. It is exciting to see so many row models, in media,
1:45:56 > 1:45:58business, women stretching their abilities and shooting for the stars
1:45:58 > 1:46:04and achieving great things. From a personal point of view, as you said
1:46:04 > 1:46:08earlier, my senior board is made up of two thirds women and the majority
1:46:08 > 1:46:13of that is working women and working women have a very unique challenge.
1:46:13 > 1:46:17Charlotte was three years old when I set up the business and I had to
1:46:17 > 1:46:20create a business working for me because I could not find a job that
1:46:20 > 1:46:25would allow me to be a good mum to my children and also to have the
1:46:25 > 1:46:29career I really wanted and I felt I deserved and what is great is to be
1:46:29 > 1:46:33able to employ women in our organisation that what the same
1:46:33 > 1:46:36thing and we give them that structure. It takes a bit of effort
1:46:36 > 1:46:43but you can get there as a business and do that.
1:46:43 > 1:46:47Will probably put my two things together, the worst in the best, and
1:46:47 > 1:46:54in the last two and a half yearsI have seen the worst of people...
1:46:54 > 1:46:59Because of a sexual harassment case? Yes, and realised the inequality
1:46:59 > 1:47:04that I didn't really realise was there, to be honest.Hidden in plain
1:47:04 > 1:47:09sight.Yes. And I have learned an awful lot. And I think the best
1:47:09 > 1:47:14thing, for me, right now, obviously, I have got a 15-year-old daughter,
1:47:14 > 1:47:18and that excites me, that she has got a whole future head of her, but
1:47:18 > 1:47:26since I have spoken out, the support that I have had off of other women
1:47:26 > 1:47:33has just been absolutely amazing. And that, to me, is the thing that I
1:47:33 > 1:47:40carry from all of this, really. Esme, what is it like being 15 in
1:47:40 > 1:47:46Britain in 2018 two blow it is interesting! Obviously, social
1:47:46 > 1:47:50media, theinternet,, it was different to how it was just 15
1:47:50 > 1:47:53years ago, every day there is something new happening, and you
1:47:53 > 1:48:00have to focus on that, but it is also brought a lot of hope. Like, in
1:48:00 > 1:48:05my school, most of my friends are aiming to become surgeons and
1:48:05 > 1:48:09lawyers and politicians, like amazing things, and it is amazing
1:48:09 > 1:48:11that they can, that that is plausible, like they can do that
1:48:11 > 1:48:18now, and even like 50 or 60 years ago, if you were a woman, a girl,
1:48:18 > 1:48:22especially a woman of colour said I want to go and become a politician,
1:48:22 > 1:48:26I want to go into Parliament, people would have laughed at them, and now
1:48:26 > 1:48:30it is like we can actually do that, it Israeli exciting to be part of
1:48:30 > 1:48:36our generation.-- it is really exciting. You have talked about some
1:48:36 > 1:48:39of the opportunities with social media and what you might want to do
1:48:39 > 1:48:43when you grow older, what is the worst thing about being a
1:48:43 > 1:48:4815-year-old girl in Britain?The expectations that are put on, like,
1:48:48 > 1:48:53from the societal point of view, so to become a mother especially, like
1:48:53 > 1:49:02people expect you...Who? You expect that? Nodule mum!Just tidy her
1:49:02 > 1:49:08bedroom!Kind of like when I say I don't really want to have children,
1:49:08 > 1:49:15it is like, oh, you know...Do you say that? I suppose that is why you
1:49:15 > 1:49:21hear that.Or assembly says, I don't want to get married, people are
1:49:21 > 1:49:27like, why don't you? -- or if somebody says.Not necessarily
1:49:27 > 1:49:31expectations, but that is the norm, it does not necessarily mean they
1:49:31 > 1:49:36are being pejorative or whatever. And an expectation to be quiet as
1:49:36 > 1:49:43well.From who?!Not necessarily personally, but as a society, there
1:49:43 > 1:49:49is quite a strong stigma against women who, from a young age, if you
1:49:49 > 1:49:54kind of like savings, there is a kind of like, be quiet, don't talk
1:49:54 > 1:49:58about it.Closing down of what you have said if you have an opinion,
1:49:58 > 1:50:06does anybody else find that?If you say something, oh, no, you are over
1:50:06 > 1:50:10exaggerating, it is not that bad. What did you say? Being dramatic?
1:50:10 > 1:50:15Yeah.You don't think summary would say that to a manager Maxnot at
1:50:15 > 1:50:20all.
1:50:20 > 1:50:27all.-- you don't think somebody would say that to a man?As a health
1:50:27 > 1:50:31visitor, we have, as a society, still have different expectations
1:50:31 > 1:50:36between boys and girls. We are seeing a shift with gender neutral
1:50:36 > 1:50:39clothing and different activities, and a lot of nurseries are going on
1:50:39 > 1:50:44board in terms of all children being promoted to all activities, whereas
1:50:44 > 1:50:47previously girls were meant to play with kitchens and dolls, boys were
1:50:47 > 1:50:51meant to play with construction sets. It is slowly changing, but it
1:50:51 > 1:50:56will take a generational changes to go through, and that is why we're
1:50:56 > 1:51:00not seeing change, and it is frustrating at times, because we are
1:51:00 > 1:51:05quite powerful, emboldened women, but lots of women do not feel that
1:51:05 > 1:51:09way, behind the sidelines, and is taking time for that change to come
1:51:09 > 1:51:14through. And it probably chips away, but when we find our voice, we need
1:51:14 > 1:51:19to keep it, keep chipping away for all women.I see that all the time
1:51:19 > 1:51:24in construction, you know, in engineering.Give me an example.
1:51:24 > 1:51:28Engineering is not for girls, why would you consider engineering? Why
1:51:28 > 1:51:34don't you consider something else? So not naming names, but who are the
1:51:34 > 1:51:40people who are saying engineering is not for girls, who is that person?
1:51:40 > 1:51:44Unfortunately, it is everybody.It is not everybody, it is not, let's
1:51:44 > 1:51:51not exaggerate. What sort of people? The people who are saying that are
1:51:51 > 1:51:55represented, they come from every aspect of a child's life...
1:51:55 > 1:52:04Teachers, parents?Parents, teachers, and goals and
1:52:06 > 1:52:13teachers, and goals and -- and goals and aunts, but I know it is a result
1:52:13 > 1:52:17of this perception thing that we have been trying to work through for
1:52:17 > 1:52:23the last couple of years, it is that association of certain career paths
1:52:23 > 1:52:31with a male or female, and I think it is on us as engineers, as
1:52:31 > 1:52:39powerful women, as women of colour, women of, you know, to be visible,
1:52:39 > 1:52:45you know, to young people to say, I am an engineer, I am doing it, and I
1:52:45 > 1:52:49am enjoying it, you know?And getting paid for doing it! Are you
1:52:49 > 1:52:55getting paid the same as the male engineers?Good question. I don't
1:52:55 > 1:53:03know, I haven't asked.Would you consider asking?Yes, I would.
1:53:03 > 1:53:09Definitely I would, yeah.I actually have checked my skill with my job to
1:53:09 > 1:53:15make sure that I am being paid exactly the same as my work
1:53:15 > 1:53:20counterpart...And are you?I am, and it is an issue, because
1:53:20 > 1:53:24previously I worked somewhere, and when I left, I found out that all my
1:53:24 > 1:53:31white colleagues got paid £1000 more than me, so I was down by £1000, and
1:53:31 > 1:53:36when I queried me, he told me, you are leaving now, it doesn't matter.
1:53:36 > 1:53:40And that was because you were a black woman?I was the only black
1:53:40 > 1:53:45girl there, and I felt I had to be grateful, I was breaking the
1:53:45 > 1:53:50diversity barrier, but also he had given me how opportunity.We are
1:53:50 > 1:53:57coming to the end, and I know I haven't ask do the worst thing! I
1:53:57 > 1:54:00don't want to end on a negative, but what is the contrast? Briefly, worst
1:54:00 > 1:54:03thing about being a woman... There may not be anythingloads of
1:54:03 > 1:54:08progress has been made, but there is still masses of progress to go.I
1:54:08 > 1:54:17need specifics.I don't want to grow up not being paid the same as a man.
1:54:17 > 1:54:22Sure, definitely.I don't want that to happen. I get worried about that.
1:54:22 > 1:54:27We are going to make sure that doesn't happen.There are still
1:54:27 > 1:54:32women in our community, our society, who are voiceless, they don't have
1:54:32 > 1:54:36the same opportunity as we have. One thing that we are highlighting at
1:54:36 > 1:54:40the moment is that there really is this refugee and migrant women, when
1:54:40 > 1:54:45they report to the police violence, sexual violence, immediately the
1:54:45 > 1:54:51police called immigration, you know, to start the process of the porting
1:54:51 > 1:54:56them.We have got 30 seconds, you have to be quick.The fact that we
1:54:56 > 1:55:03have to deal with capability, having to prove myself.We need parity with
1:55:03 > 1:55:08the male dominated professions with male dominated professions.More
1:55:08 > 1:55:12equality for single parents, more involvement from partners that are
1:55:12 > 1:55:16not there.Every woman should be able to go to work without being
1:55:16 > 1:55:21sexually assaulted.More support for girls to go to university and higher
1:55:21 > 1:55:29education.There needs to be more voices, as you said, every woman
1:55:29 > 1:55:33needs a voice, regardless of where they are from.Thank you, well done,
1:55:33 > 1:55:37thank you for coming in.Thank you. We brought you figure is that there
1:55:37 > 1:55:41has been a 14% rise in women from Northern Ireland having free
1:55:41 > 1:55:44abortions in England since the Government announced they would no
1:55:44 > 1:55:49longer pay for them. Stella Creasy, who campaigned to get the charges
1:55:49 > 1:55:52dropped last year, gave us her reaction, as did Emma Campbell from
1:55:52 > 1:55:58a campaign group.It reveals the scale of the need to address this
1:55:58 > 1:56:04issue. It is simply unconscionable that in 2018 part of our nation,
1:56:04 > 1:56:08Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom, we treat women
1:56:08 > 1:56:12differently there than here in London or Birmingham or Manchester,
1:56:12 > 1:56:16and what this data tells us is that, actually, we need to go further,
1:56:16 > 1:56:22because it is not fair to ask women to travel, and the United Nations
1:56:22 > 1:56:24has identified that asking women in Northern Ireland to travel to
1:56:24 > 1:56:29England to have an abortion is in human and degrading.I'm going to
1:56:29 > 1:56:33ask you more about that in a moment, but I won't reaction from you as
1:56:33 > 1:56:38well, Emma Campbell, to these figures that we have obtained.We
1:56:38 > 1:56:43know that the number of women travelling to the UK for abortion
1:56:43 > 1:56:48treatment in the last five years or so has dropped, and we know
1:56:48 > 1:56:51anecdotally that was due to the use of abortion pills that people
1:56:51 > 1:56:57obtained online and took a legally. Although the bills are safe, we can
1:56:57 > 1:57:02see from recent prosecutions that it was illegal, so we understand these
1:57:02 > 1:57:06figures to mean that people are no longer willing to risk prosecution
1:57:06 > 1:57:10and would rather travel to access abortions than risk this
1:57:10 > 1:57:14criminalisation. However, in the week that the funding was announced,
1:57:14 > 1:57:19we had two phone calls from different women who were unable to
1:57:19 > 1:57:24travel to England, one because a violent ex partner destroyed all of
1:57:24 > 1:57:27her identification, and another just because she had a very, very young
1:57:27 > 1:57:31child and there was no way for her to travel. We understand that even
1:57:31 > 1:57:35though women can access this treatment in the UK, there are often
1:57:35 > 1:57:38women left behind because they cannot travel for one reason or
1:57:38 > 1:57:43another.Emma Campbell, Stella Creasy. A statement from the
1:57:43 > 1:57:46Government, they say the law in Northern Ireland prevents abortion
1:57:46 > 1:57:49except where there is a risk to the life or long-term health of the
1:57:49 > 1:57:54woman. An amendment to the law to permit abortion cases of fatal
1:57:54 > 1:57:58people abnormality and sexual crime was debated in the Northern Ireland
1:57:58 > 1:58:04Assembly in February 2016 and is defeated. Following that, the
1:58:04 > 1:58:09Government is working on proposals for ministers to address the issue,
1:58:09 > 1:58:14but the Northern Ireland executive went into suspension at the end of
1:58:14 > 1:58:17January 2017, before those proposals were considered. Thank you very much
1:58:17 > 1:58:20for your company today, thanks for getting in touch with the programme.
1:58:20 > 1:58:25Back tomorrow at nine, have a good day.