0:00:06 > 0:00:07Hello.
0:00:07 > 0:00:08It's Friday, it's nine o'clock.
0:00:08 > 0:00:09I'm Chloe Tilley.
0:00:09 > 0:00:12Welcome to the programme
0:00:12 > 0:00:17Only months after Donald Trump threatened North Korea with "fire
0:00:17 > 0:00:20and fury" and described Kim Jong-un as "little rocket man" -
0:00:20 > 0:00:22the US President has agreed to an offer to meet
0:00:22 > 0:00:23the country's leader.
0:00:23 > 0:00:29It's a move described by South Korea as a "milestone for peace".
0:00:29 > 0:00:37He expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible.
0:00:37 > 0:00:42President Trump officiated at a briefing and said he would meet Kim
0:00:42 > 0:00:47Jong-un by May, to achieve prominent denuclearisation.
0:00:47 > 0:00:50It's the first time ever a sitting US President will have met
0:00:50 > 0:00:51a North Korean leader.
0:00:51 > 0:00:57We'll ask what the historic meeting might achieve.
0:00:57 > 0:01:01A teenager who attacked six moped riders with acid in a 90-minute
0:01:01 > 0:01:05rampage across London is being sentenced today.
0:01:05 > 0:01:06We'll meet one of his victims
0:01:06 > 0:01:11and find out how his life has changed.
0:01:11 > 0:01:14And the last print edition of iconic music magazine NME is out today.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16Bosses say it's no longer financially viable.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19We'll look back at its history - with a former editor and the lead
0:01:19 > 0:01:27singer of The Vaccines.
0:01:32 > 0:01:33Hello.
0:01:33 > 0:01:34Welcome to the programme.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36We're live until 11 this morning.
0:01:36 > 0:01:38Today we're talking about the so-called latte levy.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41Ministers have failed to back a recommendation to put a 25p charge
0:01:41 > 0:01:44on takeaway coffee cups.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47Instead, they praised coffee shops who give discounts
0:01:47 > 0:01:51to customers who bring in their own reusable cups.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54So what is more likely to encourage you to think about the environment
0:01:54 > 0:01:55and use less plastic?
0:01:55 > 0:01:57The carrot or the stick approach?
0:01:57 > 0:01:58We're keen to hear your views.
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0:02:08 > 0:02:09Our top story today.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12President Trump has accepted an offer from North Korea to meet
0:02:12 > 0:02:13Kim Jong-un for talks.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15The meeting will happen by May.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17No serving US president has ever met a North Korean leader.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19The surprise announcement was made by senior South Korean
0:02:19 > 0:02:21officials in Washington, who passed on a letter
0:02:21 > 0:02:23from the North Korean leader.
0:02:23 > 0:02:30Our Washington correspondent Chris Buckler has this report.
0:02:52 > 0:02:53With missiles and displays of military might,
0:02:53 > 0:02:56North Korea has at times seemed nothing short of defiant
0:02:56 > 0:02:58in the face of sanctions and international condemnation
0:02:58 > 0:02:59of its nuclear programme but, despite appearances,
0:02:59 > 0:03:01it seems Kim Jong-un wants to talk.
0:03:01 > 0:03:03South Korean officials, who met the North Korean leader,
0:03:03 > 0:03:05say he has committed himself to denuclearisation
0:03:05 > 0:03:07and they have now delivered a message from Kim Jong-un that
0:03:07 > 0:03:10caught many in the White House completely off guard.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12Kim pledged that North Korea will refrain from any further
0:03:12 > 0:03:15nuclear or missile tests.
0:03:15 > 0:03:16He understands that the routine joint military exercises
0:03:16 > 0:03:23between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump
0:03:25 > 0:03:30as soon as possible.
0:03:30 > 0:03:32The idea of a face-to-face meeting between President Trump
0:03:32 > 0:03:34and Kim Jong-un, by May, seems remarkable,
0:03:34 > 0:03:41given the months of insults and threats hurled between them.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43They will be met with fire and fury.
0:03:43 > 0:03:50Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53But the tone has now changed.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56On Twitter, Donald Trump said that great progress was being made
0:03:56 > 0:03:58but that sanctions will remain until an agreement is reached.
0:03:58 > 0:04:05However, that meeting is being planned.
0:04:05 > 0:04:06Some in the White House will urge cautious
0:04:06 > 0:04:08and there will be no suspension of the joint military exercises
0:04:08 > 0:04:11involving the United States and South Korea.
0:04:11 > 0:04:13This may be a move away from fire and fury,
0:04:13 > 0:04:16perhaps even towards friendship but, in the long-term, that will depend
0:04:16 > 0:04:17on whether that message coming from Pyongyang
0:04:17 > 0:04:19proves to be one of propaganda or progress.
0:04:19 > 0:04:27Chris Buckler, BBc News, Washington.
0:04:28 > 0:04:36Our correspondent Robin Brant is in Seoul.
0:04:36 > 0:04:41We can't underestimate the significance of this meeting.
0:04:41 > 0:04:48It looks like it will be before the end of May. This is huge, no sitting
0:04:48 > 0:04:54US president has met with a North Korean leader before. It is
0:04:54 > 0:05:03completely unprecedented, we don't know when it exactly where.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05know when it exactly where. It may be in the demilitarised zone, on the
0:05:05 > 0:05:14border between the North. President Trump wanted to get their in the
0:05:14 > 0:05:18past. On the campaign trail President Trump said he wanted to
0:05:18 > 0:05:25meet with Kim Jong-un. He has been talking about that for some while.
0:05:25 > 0:05:30This is hugely unconventional, usually we have talks and process
0:05:30 > 0:05:37over several years ending in a symbolic summit and possibly an
0:05:37 > 0:05:43agreement. This is the opposite, only a few months ago they were
0:05:43 > 0:05:47calling each other names, annihilating the US. We have the
0:05:47 > 0:05:51prospect within weeks of a face-to-face meeting. At the centre
0:05:51 > 0:05:56will be the prospect of denuclearisation which is what the
0:05:56 > 0:06:06south wants. It is pretty much what everyone wants for this peninsular.
0:06:09 > 0:06:17Sorry, Cleary the line is not clear. We will talk about this more after
0:06:17 > 0:06:1810am. The
0:06:18 > 0:06:20Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom
0:06:20 > 0:06:21The Newsroom
0:06:21 > 0:06:23with a summary of the rest of the days news.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25Pressure is growing on counter-terror officers
0:06:25 > 0:06:29to identify the source of a nerve agent used in the attempted murder
0:06:29 > 0:06:31of a former Russian spy and his daughter in Salisbury.
0:06:31 > 0:06:33The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has visited
0:06:33 > 0:06:34Salisbury this morning, where she's been speaking
0:06:34 > 0:06:40to police about the case.
0:06:40 > 0:06:42State media in Russia has reacted angrily to any
0:06:42 > 0:06:44suggestion that the Kremlin could be responsible.
0:06:44 > 0:06:49Andy Moore reports.
0:06:49 > 0:06:54In a sign of how extensive this inquiry has become,
0:06:54 > 0:06:57police cordoned off and set a guard over the grave of Sergei Skripal's
0:06:57 > 0:06:59wife, in Salisbury.
0:06:59 > 0:07:02And nearby, in the same cemetery, a similar police presence
0:07:02 > 0:07:09at the spot where his son's ashes are interned.
0:07:09 > 0:07:12Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey was one of the first to help
0:07:12 > 0:07:14the Skripals, as they fought for their lives.
0:07:14 > 0:07:20He is said to be in a serious condition but recovering.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24He is a great character, he is a huge presence in Wiltshire
0:07:24 > 0:07:28Police, well liked, well loved, massively dedicated officer.
0:07:28 > 0:07:30He is clearly receiving high specialist treatment
0:07:30 > 0:07:38so he is well set up.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40He's not the Nick that I know but, of course,
0:07:40 > 0:07:42he's been receiving a high
0:07:42 > 0:07:43level of treatment.
0:07:43 > 0:07:44Boris Johnson...
0:07:44 > 0:07:47In Russia, state dominated media made fun of Boris Johnson and joked
0:07:47 > 0:07:48about what happened to former Kremlin spies.
0:07:48 > 0:07:51"If you are a professional traitor," he says, "my advice -
0:07:51 > 0:07:53don't move to England.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55Something is not right there, the climate perhaps,
0:07:55 > 0:08:01but too many bad things go on there."
0:08:01 > 0:08:05Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, are still critically ill.
0:08:05 > 0:08:09The BBC has been told the nerve agent used against them was not
0:08:09 > 0:08:13sarin or VX but something much rarer.
0:08:13 > 0:08:16The British Government says it knows what that substance was but is not
0:08:16 > 0:08:18naming it at the moment.
0:08:18 > 0:08:23Andy Moore, BBC News.
0:08:23 > 0:08:31With us now is our correspondent Leila Nathoo.
0:08:32 > 0:08:39did Amber Rudd make any comment when she visited this morning?
0:08:39 > 0:08:44She is expected to speak later, she is still in Salisbury this morning.
0:08:44 > 0:08:51She came to the scene to see the police cordoned, at the bench still
0:08:51 > 0:08:58covered by a police tent. She met with some local business owners and
0:08:58 > 0:09:04talked about how the community had been affected. And with the local MP
0:09:04 > 0:09:06and the Wiltshire Police Chief Constable.
0:09:06 > 0:09:13I believe she is talking to some of the first responders over there, in
0:09:13 > 0:09:16Salisbury city centre. We are expecting to hear from the Home
0:09:16 > 0:09:23Secretary later. The focus now for police is trying
0:09:23 > 0:09:29to piece together the movements, ascertain exactly how this nerve
0:09:29 > 0:09:36agent was delivered, administered, when it happened and how. There was
0:09:36 > 0:09:41a flurry of activity at the home of Sergei Skripal yesterday, police
0:09:41 > 0:09:46have set up tents, the cordoned was widened, that seems to be by police
0:09:46 > 0:09:50activity is going on. Thank you.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52NHS employers and health unions are understood to be close
0:09:52 > 0:09:55to agreeing a three-year pay deal for hundreds of thousands
0:09:55 > 0:09:56of staff in England.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58The Government has already said it will abolish the 1%
0:09:58 > 0:10:01pay cap on public sector pay and the Chancellor has indicated
0:10:01 > 0:10:06he will provide extra funding to meet the higher costs.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09The United States will impose tariffs on imports
0:10:09 > 0:10:11of aluminium and steel.
0:10:11 > 0:10:12President Trump signed off on the move
0:10:12 > 0:10:14at the White House late yesterday.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16It's sparked fears of a global trade war.
0:10:16 > 0:10:17The European Union is considering retaliating
0:10:17 > 0:10:25with charges on US made jeans, motorbikes, bourbon and oranges.
0:10:26 > 0:10:28BBC News has uncovered allegations of bullying
0:10:28 > 0:10:30and harassment in the House of Commons affecting
0:10:30 > 0:10:31dozens of female staff.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33Workers known as "clerks" have told Newsnight they have
0:10:33 > 0:10:35experienced aggressive and threatening behaviour by some
0:10:35 > 0:10:36MPs and a lack of proper redress.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39The Speaker of the House John Bercow has strongly denied
0:10:39 > 0:10:47a claim that he bullied a former private secretary.
0:10:47 > 0:10:51A man, who became known as the M25 rapist for carrying out
0:10:51 > 0:10:53a series of sex attacks in the Home Counties, has died
0:10:53 > 0:10:54at Wakefield Prison in Yorkshire.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56Antoni Imiela was 63 and had had a heart condition.
0:10:56 > 0:11:04He'd been convicted of raping eight women and girls in 2001 and 2002.
0:11:06 > 0:11:09A teenager who attacked six moped riders with acid in a 90-minute
0:11:09 > 0:11:11rampage across London is being sentenced later.
0:11:11 > 0:11:1317-year-old Derryck John from Croydon admitted targeting
0:11:13 > 0:11:15the riders in north and east London in July last year.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18He sprayed them in the face with a noxious liquid and stole two
0:11:18 > 0:11:20mopeds before trying to take another four.
0:11:20 > 0:11:22Police said one attack had left a rider with
0:11:22 > 0:11:30"life-changing injuries".
0:11:37 > 0:11:39A proposal to impose a so-called latte levy on throwaway
0:11:39 > 0:11:41coffee cups has been rejected by the government.
0:11:41 > 0:11:43MPs on the Environmental Audit Committee had suggested a charge
0:11:43 > 0:11:47of 25p for disposable coffee cups to reduce their use.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49But ministers say it is better for shops to offer voluntary
0:11:49 > 0:11:51discounts to customers bringing their own cups.
0:11:51 > 0:11:57Roger Harrabin reports.
0:11:57 > 0:12:03What do you do with your used cup? Should you throw it in the rubbish
0:12:03 > 0:12:07or recycle it? MPs on the environmental audit can it eats
0:12:07 > 0:12:13steak coffee shops should be charged 25p for every cup they sell that
0:12:13 > 0:12:17cannot be fully recycled. The Government does not like the idea.
0:12:17 > 0:12:23Ministers say they are not convinced the recycling industry can handle
0:12:23 > 0:12:27supposedly recyclable cups that are covered in cold cappuccino froth.
0:12:27 > 0:12:31They said it is better for shops to offer discounts to people bringing
0:12:31 > 0:12:38their own monks. We need a variety of solutions. It
0:12:38 > 0:12:41is great to see retailers starting to take action but that should not
0:12:41 > 0:12:45be at the expense of the Government also showing leadership.
0:12:45 > 0:12:48The MPs say this suggests the Government is not serious about
0:12:48 > 0:12:53tackling the problem of waste.
0:12:53 > 0:12:55That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:12:55 > 0:13:00More at 9.30.
0:13:00 > 0:13:06Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.
0:13:06 > 0:13:11Lots of you on the latte levy. One saying, I use plastic cups because
0:13:11 > 0:13:17they are more hygienic.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20they are more hygienic. Pat says, not taxing cups shows the Government
0:13:20 > 0:13:25is not only playing its service to environmental issues, more people
0:13:25 > 0:13:33bring their own if they had to pick extra, like bags. Lots of you
0:13:33 > 0:13:33getting in touch.
0:13:33 > 0:13:34Use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.
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0:13:37 > 0:13:42Let's get some sport.
0:13:42 > 0:13:47Good morning. I cannot believe the Winter Paralympics Opening Ceremony
0:13:47 > 0:13:48is today.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50The largest ever Winter Paralympics will officially kick off today
0:13:50 > 0:13:55with the opening ceremony in Pyeongchang.
0:13:55 > 0:14:00A record 567 athletes from 48 countries, plus of course
0:14:00 > 0:14:02the Neutral Paralympic Athlete delegation which includes around
0:14:02 > 0:14:0430 Russian athletes will be taking part.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08There will be
0:14:08 > 0:14:1180 medals awarded in six sports, alpine skiing, snowboarding,
0:14:11 > 0:14:13para-ice hockey, wheelchair curling,
0:14:13 > 0:14:15cross-country skiing.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18And biathlon where Scott Meenagh will be
0:14:18 > 0:14:21the first British athlete to compete in a nordic skiing event
0:14:21 > 0:14:22at a Paralympics for 20 years.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24So a small slice of history for him.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26The ceremony starts at 11 o'clock
0:14:26 > 0:14:29this morning.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33With snowboarder Owen Pick selected as flagbearer at his first Games,
0:14:33 > 0:14:36eight years after losing a leg in a Taliban blast while serving for
0:14:36 > 0:14:42the British Army in Afghanistan.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46He says it's an honour to represent the flag he served under
0:14:46 > 0:14:48while in the military but actually thought he was getting
0:14:48 > 0:14:53in trouble just before he was told.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56A moment for his parents to be proud of.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58Now, the action gets underway in the early hours of tomorrow
0:14:58 > 0:14:59morning.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01But when it does begin we're hoping for more
0:15:01 > 0:15:02scenes like this.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04When Kelly Gallgher won super-G gold
0:15:04 > 0:15:08with guide Charlotte Evans in Sochi four years ago.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11She's got a new guide this time around but will still hope
0:15:11 > 0:15:14to contribute to a rather ambitious medal target for Paralympics GB.
0:15:14 > 0:15:16They want to win between six and 12 medals, with a goal
0:15:16 > 0:15:18of at least seven.
0:15:18 > 0:15:21If they can do that, it would be their second-highest medal haul
0:15:21 > 0:15:24and best showing since Innsbruck, back in 1984.
0:15:32 > 0:15:37Everything about the team excites me, whether it be returning para
0:15:37 > 0:15:43Olympians looking to recreate their medal success or create it, the
0:15:43 > 0:15:48youngsters, Milly and James, who are teenagers in Sochi. I'm sure they
0:15:48 > 0:15:53are looking to improve on those. But the fact we are represented in five
0:15:53 > 0:15:59sports for the first time and the Alpine skiing and curling, the
0:15:59 > 0:16:02mainstays, but snowboard and Nordic as well.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04Briscoe went on to say that increased investment is linked
0:16:04 > 0:16:07to performance and so extra funding should mean the medals do
0:16:07 > 0:16:14flow - fingers crossed.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17Really inspiring staff and another inspirational woman, as if she
0:16:17 > 0:16:20hasn't done enough in is credible stuff in her career, she gets back
0:16:20 > 0:16:27on the court six months after a baby.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30Good argument she is greatest sportsperson of all time.
0:16:30 > 0:16:33Serena Williams won her first singles match on the WTA Tour
0:16:33 > 0:16:36for nearly 14 months as she returned after the birth of her child.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40She's back at the age of 36, clearly showing that
0:16:40 > 0:16:42number is irrelevant, as -he's reached the second
0:16:42 > 0:16:45round at Indian Wells with a straight sets victory over
0:16:45 > 0:16:49Kazakhstan's Zarina Diyas.
0:16:49 > 0:16:51It was her first singles match on the Tour
0:16:51 > 0:16:55since she winning the 2017 Australian Open while pregnant.
0:16:55 > 0:17:00Afterwards the 23-time Grand Slam singles champion said,
0:17:00 > 0:17:02"I'm a little rusty but it doesn't matter".
0:17:02 > 0:17:04I'd imagine
0:17:04 > 0:17:07she will have a big year ahead despite her time off.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10A teenager is to be sentenced this morning after pleading guilty
0:17:10 > 0:17:12to carrying out acid attacks on six moped riders.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14Derryck John had been trying to steal his victims' bikes
0:17:14 > 0:17:17in the 90-minute rampage across London in July of last year.
0:17:17 > 0:17:22The 17-year-old from Croydon, was convicted of throwing
0:17:22 > 0:17:25a corrosive liquid with intent to disable, burn, maim, disfigure
0:17:25 > 0:17:28or cause grievous bodily harm - a crime which, for an adult,
0:17:28 > 0:17:35can lead to life imprisonment.
0:17:35 > 0:17:36Let's talk now to Jabed Hussain.
0:17:36 > 0:17:39He was one of Derryck John's victims.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43Thank you for coming in and talking to us. I can't imagine how difficult
0:17:43 > 0:17:49it is to relive this and a difficult day, clearly. Tell me what you
0:17:49 > 0:17:58remember of the night of the attack. Thank you for having me here.
0:17:58 > 0:18:07Basically I do remember most of it. When he threw acid on me.Where were
0:18:07 > 0:18:14you?I was on the Hackney Road.You were a delivery driver on your
0:18:14 > 0:18:19scooter?I was finishing my work. Were you stopped at the time?I was
0:18:19 > 0:18:25at a traffic light.What happened?I was looking for the easiest way to
0:18:25 > 0:18:30go home and I stopped at a traffic light and I heard the sound of water
0:18:30 > 0:18:35on my left hand side. Then I realised something was wrong, very
0:18:35 > 0:18:41wrong. I looked to the left and I saw two boys on the motorbike,
0:18:41 > 0:18:49literally next to me and I never realised they were next to me. They
0:18:49 > 0:18:55were trying to do it again and were trying to get me off my bike.You
0:18:55 > 0:19:00had your helmet on, luckily, and I presume that helped save you from a
0:19:00 > 0:19:05lot of the potential burns.That's right. I had a helmet on and it
0:19:05 > 0:19:09saved my face.What did the acid due to the helmet?It was melted.
0:19:09 > 0:19:15Melted?Yes.What point did you realise what was happening because
0:19:15 > 0:19:22it clearly happened very fast.I was not prepared for that. I never
0:19:22 > 0:19:25thought I would be the victim of an acid attack or somebody would throw
0:19:25 > 0:19:32acid on me or into my face. I never thought I would be targeted, so I
0:19:32 > 0:19:40was not prepared and I didn't know what to do. I was asking for water
0:19:40 > 0:19:47because it was getting dry and worse. I was going to the doors and
0:19:47 > 0:19:54asking for water.Did anybody stop to help you?One of the ladies was
0:19:54 > 0:19:58walking past, she was getting the water from the shops.Could you feel
0:19:58 > 0:20:03the acid on your skin at this point? Not at that moment, but I knew it
0:20:03 > 0:20:08was something and then they were doing further checks and going to
0:20:08 > 0:20:15the hospital as well.So, lasting damage from swallowing some of it?
0:20:15 > 0:20:18What has that meant for you health-wise, the impact of
0:20:18 > 0:20:22swallowing acid?Severe chest pain which has never happened to me
0:20:22 > 0:20:31before. And a breathing problem sometime, it's not normal, it's
0:20:31 > 0:20:35totally different than before after the incident.So where did you
0:20:35 > 0:20:45suffer burns?On my left hand side. I have recovered now there, anyway.
0:20:45 > 0:20:50Did you find it difficult to look in the mirror the first time after the
0:20:50 > 0:20:56attack? Was it something that troubled you?I've thought I had
0:20:56 > 0:21:00lost my face unless I saw it in the mirror, I never thought I would get
0:21:00 > 0:21:07my face back. Everybody is saying that you are OK, and I thought that
0:21:07 > 0:21:13they were trying to make me happy, but when I saw my face, then I
0:21:13 > 0:21:18realised, and I saw the other guy in hospital, with the same issues I was
0:21:18 > 0:21:23better than him.Someone else who had also been attacked was at the
0:21:23 > 0:21:25same hospital question might yes, on the same night.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32So what effect does it have on you now, moving on? Less than one year
0:21:32 > 0:21:43after the attack. Do you feel able to go out by yourself?When I tried
0:21:43 > 0:21:48to go myself, I always look right and left when I go to the car. I
0:21:48 > 0:21:52always look right and left and I locked the doors and windows inside
0:21:52 > 0:22:04the car. If anybody comes to my house without giving me a call.
0:22:04 > 0:22:08house without giving me a call. That has never happened to me before. My
0:22:08 > 0:22:16wife was telling me not to speak out because I might be targeted what she
0:22:16 > 0:22:20worried that you could be targeted again? This is what she thinks, I
0:22:20 > 0:22:24might be targeted because I am speaking up. And I am doing a
0:22:24 > 0:22:31campaign against it and doing to go to every college and speak to the
0:22:31 > 0:22:35use and invite them to talk to us for a flexible job and also trying
0:22:35 > 0:22:42to keep them free training and equipment to start the flexible job
0:22:42 > 0:22:48after school.So do you think it's because young people don't have
0:22:48 > 0:22:53opportunities that they are getting sucked into this kind of world?
0:22:53 > 0:22:56Exactly. The government should look after the use and provide them with
0:22:56 > 0:23:05another youth clubs. And instead of sending them to jail we should and
0:23:05 > 0:23:12provide them with a youth club. I am going to the
0:23:13 > 0:23:17going to the colleges and I am trying to help them make some money
0:23:17 > 0:23:22as well.Have you been able to work and go out on your mobile again?
0:23:22 > 0:23:27After the incident I have not been back to work again.Do you feel able
0:23:27 > 0:23:34to work?I would love to go back to work. I would love to get back to
0:23:34 > 0:23:43work but I need to see it's really good money and a flexible job and I
0:23:43 > 0:23:50am my own boss and I can start work whenever I want. And I can finish
0:23:50 > 0:23:58and I can drop my daughter at school, so I love that job anyway.
0:23:58 > 0:24:03So, today, the teenager, the 17-year-old who threw acid at you
0:24:03 > 0:24:09and other people, five other people, he is going to be sentenced today.
0:24:09 > 0:24:12For you, what sentence do you want to see? As we said in the
0:24:12 > 0:24:16introduction this could be life imprisonment if he was an adult, but
0:24:16 > 0:24:22he is 17 years old.
0:24:22 > 0:24:30he is 17 years old.When you cannot get some experience from the country
0:24:30 > 0:24:33-- when you look at the experience and the country I was born, that was
0:24:33 > 0:24:39the highest level of acid attack in the world, and the ex-prime
0:24:39 > 0:24:46Minister, she made an act in 2002, which was buying and selling
0:24:46 > 0:24:50restriction, a life sentence for acid attackers, and if anybody buys
0:24:50 > 0:24:56without any ID or any body without ID, they would be in jail for a long
0:24:56 > 0:25:04time. And even a life sentence. She handled it like that.So you think
0:25:04 > 0:25:08there should be life sentences for anyone, irrespective of age, if they
0:25:08 > 0:25:12carry out an acid attack?If it's not a life sentence it should be
0:25:12 > 0:25:19similar. Something similar to that. I would like to know that if I did
0:25:19 > 0:25:25this kind of crime might be in jail for a long time.I really didn't
0:25:25 > 0:25:30appreciate the damage that would be done, said Derryck John, and I'm
0:25:30 > 0:25:34terrified of the sentence and I'm very sorry for what I did and I
0:25:34 > 0:25:36realised I will receive a significant sentence of
0:25:36 > 0:25:40imprisonment. Does it help to know he is remorseful?I think he
0:25:40 > 0:25:54realises that now. And like I said, I respect his age but he did this to
0:25:54 > 0:25:58five of them, not just me. If he would have come to me and said he
0:25:58 > 0:26:03would sort this himself I would say, I'm sorry, if you say sorry, I would
0:26:03 > 0:26:10have let him go and he's like that now but he was young and he did not
0:26:10 > 0:26:19know what he had done, but five of them so if five of them, if you come
0:26:19 > 0:26:22and work with us or you go back to normal do something good, then we
0:26:22 > 0:26:28would forgive you, but I don't think everybody would forgive him because
0:26:28 > 0:26:34he tried to damage five lives, five faces. So if we just let him go,
0:26:34 > 0:26:40others might do that kind of crime against.One final point. The
0:26:40 > 0:26:42government is proposing stricter controls on the sales of acid. Do
0:26:42 > 0:26:48you think it goes far enough to protect people from further attacks.
0:26:48 > 0:26:57The 1972 act, that gives a chance to criminals to carry acid for a second
0:26:57 > 0:27:03time, and they would go to prison for carrying acid, so they are
0:27:03 > 0:27:09carrying it for a reason. He is a criminal carrying a weapon is, so it
0:27:09 > 0:27:16should be prison for more than that. You need a stronger deterrent.Yes.
0:27:16 > 0:27:24I know the government are trying to do they best they can do, to try and
0:27:24 > 0:27:30do the tougher sentences for carrying
0:27:31 > 0:27:34carrying acid, like the former Prime Minister who was in prison, because
0:27:34 > 0:27:38they want to keep her away from the election. I am doing a campaign for
0:27:38 > 0:27:42her release. She was the first lady to make that act in the word.Jabed,
0:27:42 > 0:27:46thank you for coming in and I'm very grateful to you.
0:27:46 > 0:27:47A Home Office spokesperson said this.
0:27:47 > 0:27:48Perpetrators of corrosive
0:27:48 > 0:27:51attacks can already face up to life imprisonment on conviction
0:27:51 > 0:27:53and the Sentencing Council has published a new guideline
0:27:53 > 0:27:55on possession of bladed articles and offensive weapons that
0:27:55 > 0:27:57recognises these substances as serious and highly
0:27:57 > 0:28:01dangerous weapons.
0:28:01 > 0:28:05The Home Secretary announced in July 2017 an action plan
0:28:05 > 0:28:08to tackle the use of corrosive substances in violent attacks
0:28:08 > 0:28:12and we are making good progress on implementing this.
0:28:12 > 0:28:14We have put in place a set of voluntary
0:28:14 > 0:28:15commitments with retailers
0:28:15 > 0:28:21to restrict access to the most harmful corrosive products.
0:28:21 > 0:28:23More than a million NHS staff, including nurses
0:28:23 > 0:28:25could be in line for a pay rise.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27NHS chiefs and health unions in England are understood
0:28:27 > 0:28:34to be close to agreeing a three-year pay deal.
0:28:34 > 0:28:36The Government has already said it would scrap the 1% cap
0:28:36 > 0:28:38on public sector pay.
0:28:38 > 0:28:40Anisa Kadri has been looking at this in more detail.
0:28:40 > 0:28:47What more can you tell us about this pay deal?
0:28:47 > 0:28:52This is an update on the talks that have been going on between NHS
0:28:52 > 0:28:55chiefs and health unions. You will have seen the headlines about nurses
0:28:55 > 0:28:59leaving the NHS and the Department of Health is said to be very
0:28:59 > 0:29:04concerned about recruitment problems so it is hoped that any pay deal
0:29:04 > 0:29:08struck will retain staff. What the unions want is a pay deal so their
0:29:08 > 0:29:12pay rises above the 1% public sector pay cap put in place by the
0:29:12 > 0:29:16government. The government says it will get rid of the cap and what we
0:29:16 > 0:29:22know is that a deal for staff, not including doctors and dentists, that
0:29:22 > 0:29:28deal is not far off.Any idea of the specifics?Reports of a 6.5 pay
0:29:28 > 0:29:34increase over three years in return for NHS staff losing a day of
0:29:34 > 0:29:39holiday, they are said to be premature, but we do know that back
0:29:39 > 0:29:44in September unions wrote to the government to demand a pay rise of
0:29:44 > 0:29:48nearly 4% and they said, when you take into account the speed at which
0:29:48 > 0:29:53prizes -- prices are rising, they had suffered a pay cut. And any
0:29:53 > 0:29:57agreement struck on this will lead the final approval from ministers.
0:29:57 > 0:29:58Thank you for coming to explain that.
0:30:01 > 0:30:01Still to come.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04We've the latest from the Syrian enclave
0:30:04 > 0:30:07of Eastern Ghouta and with the situation getting ever
0:30:07 > 0:30:09more desperate there we'll hear from those on the ground
0:30:09 > 0:30:10caught up in the conflict.
0:30:10 > 0:30:12And it's farewell to what was once Britain's
0:30:12 > 0:30:15biggest music magazine.
0:30:15 > 0:30:17The NME will now only be available online.
0:30:17 > 0:30:21We'll be talking about this
0:30:21 > 0:30:23with lead singer of The Vaccines Justin Young.
0:30:23 > 0:30:31They first appeared on the NME's famous front cover back in 2011.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33Time for the latest news.
0:30:33 > 0:30:34Here's Annita McVeigh
0:30:34 > 0:30:35The BBC News headlines this morning.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37President Trump has accepted an offer
0:30:37 > 0:30:40to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for talks.
0:30:40 > 0:30:42The first ever meeting between a serving American president
0:30:42 > 0:30:47and a North Korean leader will happen by May.
0:30:47 > 0:30:50The shock announcement was made by senior South Korean officials
0:30:50 > 0:30:52in Washington after months of heightened diplomatic tensions
0:30:52 > 0:30:57between the two countries.
0:30:57 > 0:30:59North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said he is committed
0:30:59 > 0:31:02to denuclearisation.
0:31:02 > 0:31:04Kim pledged that North Korea will refrain from any further
0:31:04 > 0:31:12nuclear or missile tests.
0:31:13 > 0:31:17He understands that the routine joint military exercises
0:31:17 > 0:31:21between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue.
0:31:21 > 0:31:23And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump
0:31:23 > 0:31:29as soon as possible.
0:31:29 > 0:31:32Pressure is growing on counter-terror officers
0:31:32 > 0:31:35to identify the source of a nerve agent used in the attempted
0:31:35 > 0:31:37murder of a former Russian spy and his daughter.
0:31:37 > 0:31:39The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has visited
0:31:39 > 0:31:41Salisbury this morning, where she's been speaking
0:31:41 > 0:31:42to police about the case.
0:31:42 > 0:31:44State media in Russia has reacted angrily to any
0:31:44 > 0:31:52suggestion that the Kremlin could be responsible.
0:31:52 > 0:31:57Aid agencies say a convoy has arrived in eastern scooter. Carrying
0:31:57 > 0:32:06aid they were prevented from delivering in the week. -- Ghouta.
0:32:06 > 0:32:12NHS employers and health unions are understood to be close
0:32:12 > 0:32:17to agreeing a three-year pay deal for hundreds of thousands
0:32:17 > 0:32:18of staff in England.
0:32:18 > 0:32:20The Government has already said it will abolish the 1%
0:32:20 > 0:32:23pay cap on public sector pay and the Chancellor has indicated
0:32:23 > 0:32:31he will provide extra funding to meet the higher costs.
0:32:34 > 0:32:40The US will impose tariffs on imports of aluminium and steel. The
0:32:40 > 0:32:44EU is considering retaliating.
0:32:44 > 0:32:48That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
0:32:48 > 0:32:52Here's some sport now.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55We're only around an hour and a half away from opening ceremony
0:32:55 > 0:32:57at the Winter Paralympics.
0:32:57 > 0:33:00Snowboarder Owen Pick will be Great Britain's
0:33:00 > 0:33:04flag-bearer in Pyeongchang where a record 567 athletes,
0:33:04 > 0:33:09from 48 countries, will take part in 80 medal events.
0:33:09 > 0:33:12Arsenal put their recent problems to one side,
0:33:12 > 0:33:18with a 2-0 victory over AC Milan in the last 16 of the Europa League.
0:33:18 > 0:33:20Goals from Henrik Mkhitaryan and Aaron Ramsey put
0:33:20 > 0:33:22Arsene Wenger's side in control of the tie, with
0:33:22 > 0:33:23the home leg to come.
0:33:23 > 0:33:26Serena Williams had a winning comeback on the WTA Tour just six
0:33:26 > 0:33:28months after giving birth to her first child.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30She's into the second round at Indian Wells thanks
0:33:30 > 0:33:34to a straight sets victory over Zarina Diyas.
0:33:34 > 0:33:39It's a critical weekend in the Six Nations, with Ireland
0:33:39 > 0:33:41unbeaten and at the top of the table.
0:33:41 > 0:33:42They take on Scotland in Dublin.
0:33:42 > 0:33:45A bonus point victory could give them the title and deny
0:33:45 > 0:33:51England their third Championship in a row.
0:33:53 > 0:34:01There are reports of air strikes have hit eastern booster just as an
0:34:01 > 0:34:04aid convoy finally got into the area. Aid agencies have been
0:34:04 > 0:34:08struggling to get supplies in. A convoy which had to turn back this
0:34:08 > 0:34:13week this morning crossed the front line. Medecins Sans Frontieres says
0:34:13 > 0:34:20more than 1000 have been killed since an escalation in violence
0:34:20 > 0:34:24started three weeks ago. The area had previously been held by force as
0:34:24 > 0:34:29opposed to the Government of President Assad.
0:34:29 > 0:34:30Let's talk to Joelle Bassoul from Care International
0:34:30 > 0:34:37which is working with Syrian aid organisations in Eastern Ghouta.
0:34:37 > 0:34:39Dr Rim Turkmani from the London School of Economics,
0:34:39 > 0:34:43who is Syrian and has friends in Eastern Ghouta.
0:34:43 > 0:34:46And Ahmad Khansour who is living in Eastern Ghouta.
0:34:46 > 0:34:52His house was destroyed in a bomb attack.
0:34:52 > 0:34:58Thank you all the talking to us. I want to get a sense of the scale of
0:34:58 > 0:35:04what is happening. For UK viewers it is difficult to comprehend what is
0:35:04 > 0:35:07happening in eastern scooter, give us a sense of what life is like that
0:35:07 > 0:35:14now? It is a pleasure to spend Friday
0:35:14 > 0:35:20morning addressing this situation. But not under the bombardment around
0:35:20 > 0:35:24me.
0:35:24 > 0:35:30me. Almost 1000 people have died and over 3000 are injured. The situation
0:35:30 > 0:35:45here is deteriorating rapidly. Yesterday, 35 cases of
0:35:45 > 0:35:55sophistication -- suffocation after we were targeted with toxic gases.
0:36:00 > 0:36:11People are terrified. It is a confusing situation because
0:36:11 > 0:36:16so many civilians are dying. You are telling us what you have witnessed
0:36:16 > 0:36:23but there are unconfirmed reports about chlorine gas. Tell me about
0:36:23 > 0:36:27your home, I know it was bombed last week. Tell us what happened and how
0:36:27 > 0:36:31you managed to get yourself and your family out?
0:36:31 > 0:36:39Myself, my family, more than 50,000 people are displaced internally
0:36:39 > 0:36:44inside eastern Gutha.
0:36:46 > 0:36:48inside eastern Gutha. We have been targeted by bombardment, artillery,
0:36:48 > 0:36:53weapons.
0:36:59 > 0:37:10weapons. Right now, I am living with a relative in their house. My family
0:37:10 > 0:37:17are in their basement. It is a nightmare. Including everything that
0:37:17 > 0:37:24has happened, the moment of being targeted, and our journey from that
0:37:24 > 0:37:31place to this safer place. You were in your home when it was
0:37:31 > 0:37:35bombed? Yes, me, my wife, two kids were at
0:37:35 > 0:37:41my home.
0:37:41 > 0:37:48my home. A regime helicopter made a bombardment. Everything was
0:37:48 > 0:37:55destroyed. We could not see for over three minutes, we could not hear
0:37:55 > 0:38:04anything for maybe five minutes. Things became clearer and it was a
0:38:04 > 0:38:08nightmare. You have very small children, three
0:38:08 > 0:38:12years old and one-year-old, are they OK?
0:38:12 > 0:38:19Luckily they are OK. The other 200 children in Eastern Ghouta are not
0:38:19 > 0:38:25because they are dead. 1000 people have died in Eastern Ghouta, more
0:38:25 > 0:38:30than 200 of them are children, many are women, they are not OK.
0:38:30 > 0:38:36As I speak I can hear noises, is that a bombardment, bombs falling
0:38:36 > 0:38:41right now? Exactly, bombardments, air strikes.
0:38:41 > 0:38:46That is an air strike. They never stop since the morning. In fact they
0:38:46 > 0:38:52never stop even at night, for the last 18 days.
0:38:52 > 0:38:56Stay safe. If you have to go at any point, your safety is far more
0:38:56 > 0:39:01important. I want to bring in our other guests.
0:39:01 > 0:39:05You have friends in Eastern Ghouta, are they telling you similar
0:39:05 > 0:39:10stories? Very similar. They talk about what
0:39:10 > 0:39:15we don't see in the media, 400,000 people, roughly the size of
0:39:15 > 0:39:22Leicester or Coventry, who don't want to spend their lives in
0:39:22 > 0:39:28basements, they want to send their children to school, have an ordinary
0:39:28 > 0:39:31life. But they don't want to be arrested or killed because they are
0:39:31 > 0:39:35voicing an opposition point of view. Let us talk about the significance
0:39:35 > 0:39:42of this aid getting through and bombardments as aid goes in. A lot
0:39:42 > 0:39:51of aid is not getting in. Do we know where this aid goes to?
0:39:51 > 0:39:56What are you hearing? There was a convoy of 46 trucks if you days ago
0:39:56 > 0:40:03and nine were not able to unload because of the security situation.
0:40:03 > 0:40:08They had to put out. They were not allowed yesterday. Today there was a
0:40:08 > 0:40:14window where they went in. They are distributed wherever they can, there
0:40:14 > 0:40:19is a distribution point in Duma, and where there is a big enough storage
0:40:19 > 0:40:29space. I have to say, this is not enough. This is extremely important.
0:40:29 > 0:40:35We do not need just one or two convoys, we need to open
0:40:35 > 0:40:39humanitarian corridors, this population is living under extremely
0:40:39 > 0:40:48harsh conditions. It should be normal food is delivered and medical
0:40:48 > 0:40:50equipment, not the exception. Humanitarian corridors are opening
0:40:50 > 0:40:56but no one is using them. What are you hearing about the aid
0:40:56 > 0:41:01getting into Eastern Ghouta today? We need to put things into
0:41:01 > 0:41:07perspective about aid. There are 400,000 people living in Eastern
0:41:07 > 0:41:16Ghouta. The convoy on Monday was enough for 20 7000. Even this number
0:41:16 > 0:41:20was not reached completely because not everything was delivered. The
0:41:20 > 0:41:24rest of the convoy getting into day, the people on the ground, delivery
0:41:24 > 0:41:33is difficult. They go towards mass population movements. The aid is
0:41:33 > 0:41:38being targeted by air strikes. Humanitarian workers on the ground
0:41:38 > 0:41:42are how to distribute the aid without putting civilians at risk.
0:41:42 > 0:41:49Do people trust the Syrian Government when it says there are
0:41:49 > 0:41:53humanitarian corridors the people to leave Eastern Ghouta, or we will
0:41:53 > 0:41:57allow aid to get in and it is safe view to get that, do people trust
0:41:57 > 0:42:02the Syrian Government? It is exactly the opposite. You can
0:42:02 > 0:42:09see the result of what is happening by watching that nobody has ever
0:42:09 > 0:42:15left. People are left with two choices, either being dead under
0:42:15 > 0:42:20bombardment, locked in their shelter, or go out through this
0:42:20 > 0:42:27so-called humanitarian corridor. There aren't other two corridors,
0:42:27 > 0:42:32and if we can trust the regime, you would see thousands of people try to
0:42:32 > 0:42:38get out. In fact, only 500 people to be honest have got a lot of
0:42:38 > 0:42:45Easterner Gunter. Ever since they have left, no one has heard anything
0:42:45 > 0:42:50about them.
0:42:54 > 0:43:00about them.Do you believe the Syrian regime wants people to leave
0:43:00 > 0:43:10eastern hooter? -- eastern hooter? -- Ghouta.
0:43:10 > 0:43:14People should not be forced out of their land, why should they be asked
0:43:14 > 0:43:21to leave? Why evacuate an entire city? It is their right to stay.
0:43:21 > 0:43:25Those leaving because they have no choice, they don't want their
0:43:25 > 0:43:31children to be killed, it is a forced displacement. We don't talk
0:43:31 > 0:43:37about geopolitics. These people want a normal life. Not just the Syrian
0:43:37 > 0:43:42regime but there is Russia and other countries involved. There is a clear
0:43:42 > 0:43:49bargain here between Turkey and Russia are where there are huge
0:43:49 > 0:43:56operations going on where Turkey is taking a blind eye. They are going
0:43:56 > 0:44:03hand in hand. You have so many actors in Syria, a multiplicity of
0:44:03 > 0:44:07actors, and everyone is allowing the other to do what it wants so they
0:44:07 > 0:44:11turn a blind eye so they turn a blind eye in another corner in
0:44:11 > 0:44:20Syria.
0:44:20 > 0:44:26Syria. This is the disgraceful Bagan going on. This is teaching the
0:44:26 > 0:44:33entire world global security doesn't work. The Security Council is unable
0:44:33 > 0:44:37to provide security, once two countries are inside Syria, there is
0:44:37 > 0:44:40no way we can get the country secure again.
0:44:40 > 0:44:48Give us a sense of what is available for people inside of Easterner
0:44:48 > 0:44:56Gunter when we talk about hospitals, medical supplies,. -- Ghouta.
0:44:56 > 0:45:04The people on the ground paint a humane picture. There is very little
0:45:04 > 0:45:09food left. The few shops that had stops before the latest offensive
0:45:09 > 0:45:17started selling at a very high price when it is available.
0:45:20 > 0:45:29To have something to eat, small children are relying on plants mixed
0:45:29 > 0:45:33with grains because there is no wheat flour available. We have to
0:45:33 > 0:45:39think of this as being on the outskirts of Damascus, the price of
0:45:39 > 0:45:48sugar is ten times higher. People are going without food. Just one
0:45:48 > 0:45:59meal a day where it is available. Things like meat are a luxury now.
0:46:01 > 0:46:07Ahmed, have you ever contemplated leaving the city?
0:46:08 > 0:46:12leaving the city?There is some misconception about leaving the city
0:46:12 > 0:46:15when the regime offer it to the civilians. You would think anybody
0:46:15 > 0:46:19would think that it is safe and you could leave the city and come back
0:46:19 > 0:46:26to it whenever I want. First of all, if I leave the city I know I will
0:46:26 > 0:46:31never come back. We have seen what happened in the other city who have
0:46:31 > 0:46:38been displaced maybe a couple of years ago, and nobody has ever come
0:46:38 > 0:46:50back yet. And it seems nobody will come back from now on. In many
0:46:50 > 0:46:54cities all around Syria this is happening. As my friend said, it is
0:46:54 > 0:47:01systematic displacement, enforced displacement against the UN
0:47:01 > 0:47:06constitution. It is against the humanity values. It is just wrong.
0:47:06 > 0:47:14For myself, I know that if I tried to leave eastern Ghouta, I will be
0:47:14 > 0:47:19detained, the same as 400,000 civilians here. The regime may not
0:47:19 > 0:47:25arrest 400,000 people, but while we are speaking the regime has
0:47:25 > 0:47:35detainees of something between 250,000 and 400,000 people, in the
0:47:35 > 0:47:39prisons, which are called slaughterhouses by many reports,
0:47:39 > 0:47:45including international reports. So the regime right now is trying to
0:47:45 > 0:47:50take revenge on anybody who has ever said anything about the dictator who
0:47:50 > 0:48:00should step down from his position. Clearly, Ahmed, you do not trust
0:48:00 > 0:48:05President Assad. Thank you so much, all of you, for speaking to us, but
0:48:05 > 0:48:09particularly you, Ahmed, keep your family safe and thank you so much.
0:48:09 > 0:48:13You could hear bombardments in the background in eastern Ghouta, just
0:48:13 > 0:48:16behind Ahmed speaking to us.
0:48:16 > 0:48:19Coming up.
0:48:19 > 0:48:21It could hardly be thought possible given
0:48:21 > 0:48:23all the rhetoric but there are to be high level talks between
0:48:23 > 0:48:25President Trump and Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader.
0:48:25 > 0:48:28But how significant is this and what could be achieved?
0:48:28 > 0:48:29Amy Winehouse.
0:48:29 > 0:48:30David Bowie.
0:48:30 > 0:48:31The Arctic Monkeys.
0:48:31 > 0:48:32The Clash.
0:48:32 > 0:48:34Rihanna.
0:48:34 > 0:48:37These are just some of the many stars who've appeared on the front
0:48:37 > 0:48:39cover of the NME magazine during its 66-year reign.
0:48:39 > 0:48:43Its final edition has been published today.
0:48:43 > 0:48:45Jamaican rapper and singer Stefflon says she's honoured
0:48:45 > 0:48:50to be its last cover star.
0:48:50 > 0:48:52There's no reference that it's the final issue
0:48:52 > 0:48:55because it went to press on Tuesday and staff were only told
0:48:55 > 0:48:56the news on Wednesday.
0:48:56 > 0:48:59Bosses say the reason the magazine's come to an end is because it's "no
0:48:59 > 0:49:02longer financially viable" and its team will now focus
0:49:02 > 0:49:04on the brand's digital platforms.
0:49:04 > 0:49:08Well, joining us now is lead singer of The Vaccines, Justin Young.
0:49:08 > 0:49:11The Vaccines have appeared on the front
0:49:11 > 0:49:15cover of NME many times.
0:49:15 > 0:49:17Also here, former editor of NME.com, Greg Cochrane.
0:49:17 > 0:49:21And music journalist Laura Snapes.
0:49:21 > 0:49:27Thank you all for coming in this morning.
0:49:27 > 0:49:30Before you were in a band, what were your thoughts of NME?
0:49:30 > 0:49:36Did you get hold of it I get excited by it?When I could. I grew up in
0:49:36 > 0:49:40the mill of nowhere with a corner shop 20 minutes walk away. And I
0:49:40 > 0:49:46would walk down and there would be maybe Q magazine, and then once a
0:49:46 > 0:49:51month may be a NME. And then when I got it it became my Bible. It
0:49:51 > 0:49:56informed me and educated me not just in music, but culture and import --
0:49:56 > 0:50:00politics.Incredibly important to me. I use add that it is going? It
0:50:00 > 0:50:06is just going digital. -- are you sad that it is going?It is not
0:50:06 > 0:50:11being the same since it went three and was less focused on music. It is
0:50:11 > 0:50:16sad. I am a nostalgic person, but that is what most print press faces
0:50:16 > 0:50:23now. I think streaming culture is a big thing to mention. Music is so
0:50:23 > 0:50:28accessible instantly that the public have become the critical voice in a
0:50:28 > 0:50:36way that may be NME was 30 years ago.Would you agree with that?It's
0:50:36 > 0:50:42still important to have that middle person, that voice to rate that
0:50:42 > 0:50:44space. Justin is right that there is an enormous amount of music out
0:50:44 > 0:50:49there and it's more accessible than ever. But I still think having a
0:50:49 > 0:50:52critical voice and pointing people in the direction of new music is
0:50:52 > 0:50:57important which is why there has been huge success on the digital
0:50:57 > 0:51:01side for NME and they are reaching a greater number of people than ever.
0:51:01 > 0:51:04So just because the magazine is going it doesn't mean they don't
0:51:04 > 0:51:10still have an important place in that arena.They can do it digitally
0:51:10 > 0:51:14rather than a magazine?I'm not sure if they can. The brilliant thing
0:51:14 > 0:51:20about a magazine which online has failed to replicate, not just NME,
0:51:20 > 0:51:27in the great dales of the NME, it felt like a clubhouse, there were a
0:51:27 > 0:51:30recurring jokes on the artist felt like a revolving cards -- type of
0:51:30 > 0:51:35people. The kind of content that the website publishes is not
0:51:35 > 0:51:40commensurate with the era defining stuff of the past, so I'm not sure
0:51:40 > 0:51:45if they can carry it over.But isn't it just the way we are going now?
0:51:45 > 0:51:48Everybody expects to see things on their phones and tablets and we
0:51:48 > 0:51:54don't even read books as much any more.Well, I do.I do as well. I
0:51:54 > 0:51:58love a book. But the many people it's having it there and being
0:51:58 > 0:52:03accessible.To the credit of the NME, the final edition is being
0:52:03 > 0:52:07printed today but the brand survives. They have put themselves
0:52:07 > 0:52:11in a position where despite the print product not being part of
0:52:11 > 0:52:15their offering any more, the office is still open and it has not
0:52:15 > 0:52:19disappeared and people are still working there and that's because
0:52:19 > 0:52:21they have transitioned to the point where they've made a successful
0:52:21 > 0:52:24digital business and that is to their credit. There are other
0:52:24 > 0:52:30well-known titles that if they were to shock to the print offering
0:52:30 > 0:52:36tomorrow, that would be the end, so to their credit they have managed to
0:52:36 > 0:52:41travel through those changing times, if you like.Justin, your band has
0:52:41 > 0:52:45been in the NME and on the front cover. What does it mean as a band
0:52:45 > 0:52:50to be in the club that Laura talked about, that revolving door of
0:52:50 > 0:52:55artists?Growing up it was a tangible mark of success. I remember
0:52:55 > 0:53:01being on the cover in January 2011 and it was an incredible moment in
0:53:01 > 0:53:05any band's Korea and we were lucky enough to be on it several times. We
0:53:05 > 0:53:14were supposed to be on it next week. No!It's true. They couldn't have
0:53:14 > 0:53:19kept it going for one week longer. But it is an amazing thing. To me,
0:53:19 > 0:53:26anyone on the front of the NME was a rock star and maybe I was able to
0:53:26 > 0:53:30say the same about myself.It's an amazing thing. To your family and
0:53:30 > 0:53:32friends and people who have supported you, they see it as a
0:53:32 > 0:53:36milestone. It's not a pipe dream. You have made it when you are on the
0:53:36 > 0:53:43cover.People can sit in their local corner shop once a month, so yes.
0:53:43 > 0:53:47Why do you think it lasted so long? You are looking at five or six
0:53:47 > 0:53:57generations that were with the NME. What was the staying power?There is
0:53:57 > 0:54:01the age-old story that every generation of reader thinks their
0:54:01 > 0:54:09generation of bands and writers was the best era. But I think, for every
0:54:09 > 0:54:12generation, it is true that generation. Admittedly for a
0:54:12 > 0:54:18shrinking amount of people it remained a Bastian of taste and a
0:54:18 > 0:54:22Bible and it was incredibly informative and entertaining.I
0:54:22 > 0:54:28think because music is such an important part of peoples make up
0:54:28 > 0:54:32and they were identified by the music they like and I still believe
0:54:32 > 0:54:40that, NME has been there as a best mate everyone has taken that to
0:54:40 > 0:54:47heart. You have to be 70 years old to remember a time before it existed
0:54:47 > 0:54:51in print, now. That is why people felt very sentimental about this
0:54:51 > 0:54:57news today because it is something that feels very dear to people.I
0:54:57 > 0:55:01think there's always been a reason for it to exist. People have wanted
0:55:01 > 0:55:05that kind of relationship with it and the coverage they provided there
0:55:05 > 0:55:10are so many headlines about albums dying and people not caring about
0:55:10 > 0:55:14music any more but I don't think that's true to any extent. The
0:55:14 > 0:55:17survival is there because people do still care.One of your colleagues
0:55:17 > 0:55:25at the Guardian wrote this. Regardless of whether you thought
0:55:25 > 0:55:29the best days involved punk, Pete Dougherty, in the end became
0:55:29 > 0:55:32clueless as to what it was supposed to be doing or who it was supposed
0:55:32 > 0:55:37before -- Pete Doherty.I have to agree with that. Although the free
0:55:37 > 0:55:41publication in the last two and a half years has been a triumph in
0:55:41 > 0:55:46terms of publishing because they make this advertising funded model
0:55:46 > 0:55:49when the sales figures were about 13,000 by the end, which is pretty
0:55:49 > 0:55:54drastic. It has been a publishing success but I don't think it has had
0:55:54 > 0:56:00a clue who was meant before. It was great when they came back and they
0:56:00 > 0:56:03had Rihanna on the cover and we fought hard to get women and people
0:56:03 > 0:56:06of colour on the front but we were told they did not sell. So the
0:56:06 > 0:56:10revival of the magazine was a chance to right the wrongs of history and
0:56:10 > 0:56:14people were excited but the second cover was Chris Moyle 's, who had no
0:56:14 > 0:56:17relevance to the audience, the mission and was not even covered in
0:56:17 > 0:56:20an interesting way. They asked questions about feminism and he got
0:56:20 > 0:56:25off the hook very quickly. And very quickly you could see the mission
0:56:25 > 0:56:30they had being squandered.Justin, do you think it lost direction?I
0:56:30 > 0:56:36think so and I think you got a conference of answer there.Why is
0:56:36 > 0:56:39there a review in publishing generally that women and people of
0:56:39 > 0:56:43colour don't sell on the front of things.I don't understand. I wish I
0:56:43 > 0:56:48knew. I remember when Madonna was on the cover of a music magazine
0:56:48 > 0:56:51monthly, their worst selling issue ever. There might be some truth in
0:56:51 > 0:56:54the fact that magazines are still bought by men and it might tip
0:56:54 > 0:56:58slightly in that favour, but I wish I did know and I wish it wasn't that
0:56:58 > 0:57:03way.Thank you for coming in and it was lovely to speak to you today.
0:57:03 > 0:57:04Let's get the latest weather update.
0:57:04 > 0:57:08Sarah Keith Lucas is here.
0:57:08 > 0:57:11Hopefully the snow has gone and we might have a warm weekend. You never
0:57:11 > 0:57:13know. How are we looking?
0:57:16 > 0:57:20I wouldn't describe it as warm, but it's less cold than it has been.
0:57:20 > 0:57:23Reasonably mild weather on the cards in the next couple of days and it's
0:57:23 > 0:57:26quite a chilly start to the day-to-day but we have got blue
0:57:26 > 0:57:31skies and sunshine and this is how things are looking in Northumberland
0:57:31 > 0:57:35at the moment. Not sunny everywhere with some mist and fog patches
0:57:35 > 0:57:39around and here is a picture sent round by a weather watcher in
0:57:39 > 0:57:43Warwickshire. Pretty misty and murky and foggy. But the mist and fog is
0:57:43 > 0:57:48lifting and clearing away. Through today, staying largely dry, bright
0:57:48 > 0:57:52and sunny in northern parts of the country whereas further south we
0:57:52 > 0:57:56have more cloud which brings further outbreaks of rain which is pushing
0:57:56 > 0:58:00into the south-west of England, clouding across southern England but
0:58:00 > 0:58:03further north a lot of sunshine for much of the Midlands, northern
0:58:03 > 0:58:07England, Northern Ireland and southern Scotland. For central and
0:58:07 > 0:58:10northern Scotland, snow showers that should peter out over the next few
0:58:10 > 0:58:15hours. The sunshine should reappear across Scotland and temperatures
0:58:15 > 0:58:20between eight up to 11 degrees. As we head into the evening hours, the
0:58:20 > 0:58:25patchy rain in the South will head further north, into the Midlands,
0:58:25 > 0:58:29Wales and into Northern Ireland as well. Scotland overnight stays with
0:58:29 > 0:58:35a clear and dry condition with the northern half of Scotland so
0:58:35 > 0:58:39temperatures below freezing and we will see a widespread frost, but
0:58:39 > 0:58:44further south we have further cloud, outbreaks of rain and it's I'll
0:58:44 > 0:58:49start to the day. Double figures to the south-west. How is the weekend
0:58:49 > 0:58:55shaping up? We will see outbreaks of rain at times as things turn milder.
0:58:55 > 0:59:01There should be some sunshine on offer as well. We still have the
0:59:01 > 0:59:06cold air holding across Scotland with the blue colours on the map,
0:59:06 > 0:59:10but that is moving in from the south, so it's milder air spilling
0:59:10 > 0:59:14in and it will have worked northwards across all of the UK. For
0:59:14 > 0:59:18Saturday, heavy rain for a time through central England towards
0:59:18 > 0:59:21Northern Ireland and as the rain pushes north and bumps into the cold
0:59:21 > 0:59:27air are likely to see a bit of hill snow. A couple of centimetres
0:59:27 > 0:59:32possible in the Grampians, but low levels, falling as rain. For England
0:59:32 > 0:59:35and Wales return to sunny spells, still a few showers but look at the
0:59:35 > 0:59:39temperatures. We could see 15 degrees or so on Saturday and
0:59:39 > 0:59:42potentially the warmest day of the year so far. Sunday should start
0:59:42 > 0:59:47misty and foggy but a lot of dry weather on the cards.
0:59:53 > 0:59:55Hello, it's Friday, it's ten o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.
0:59:55 > 0:59:57Our top story.
0:59:57 > 0:59:59Donald Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong-un say
0:59:59 > 1:00:00they're going to meet each other.
1:00:00 > 1:00:04South Korea described it as a "milestone for peace".
1:00:04 > 1:00:09He expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible.
1:00:09 > 1:00:18President Trump appreciated this and said he would meet Kim Jong-un by
1:00:18 > 1:00:23May two achieve denuclearisation.
1:00:23 > 1:00:26Not surprisingly President Trump has taken to social media,
1:00:26 > 1:00:28he's said that great progress had been made but sanctions will remain
1:00:28 > 1:00:33until an agreement is reached.
1:00:33 > 1:00:35Ahead of Mother's Day this Sunday we'll hear stories
1:00:35 > 1:00:42of childbirth around the world.
1:00:42 > 1:00:48It was always one day in the future. I went through the two micrograms of
1:00:48 > 1:00:55IVF and suffered very early miscarriages.
1:00:55 > 1:00:58We'll hear from that mum Ellen Shepherd and her daughter
1:00:58 > 1:01:00Alice who is now three months old later in this hour.
1:01:00 > 1:01:03And we'll talk to Save the Children who are calling for action to be
1:01:06 > 1:01:09And MPs reject calls to impose a so-called latte levy
1:01:09 > 1:01:10on throwaway coffee cups.
1:01:10 > 1:01:11They say it's better for shops
1:01:11 > 1:01:13to offer voluntary discounts to customers bringing
1:01:13 > 1:01:14their own cups.
1:01:14 > 1:01:15But what do you think?
1:01:15 > 1:01:17Get in touch in the usual ways.
1:01:23 > 1:01:24Good morning.
1:01:24 > 1:01:26It's ten o'clock.
1:01:26 > 1:01:28Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom
1:01:28 > 1:01:29with a summary of today's news.
1:01:29 > 1:01:32President Trump has accepted an offer
1:01:32 > 1:01:36to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong-un for talks.
1:01:36 > 1:01:38The first ever meeting between a serving American president
1:01:38 > 1:01:41and a North Korean leader will happen by May.
1:01:41 > 1:01:43The shock announcement was made by senior South Korean officials
1:01:43 > 1:01:45in Washington after months of heightened diplomatic tensions
1:01:45 > 1:01:46between the two countries.
1:01:46 > 1:01:54Our Beijing correspondent Steven McDonnell has more.
1:01:56 > 1:02:01The response they have had at the Chinese foreign ministry in Beijing
1:02:01 > 1:02:06has been perhaps what you might have expected. Beijing has after all been
1:02:06 > 1:02:10urging Pyongyang and Washington to sit down and talk for some time and
1:02:10 > 1:02:15the news there might now be a meeting between Kim Jong-un and
1:02:15 > 1:02:20Donald Trump was naturally welcomed. China Public argued it has done more
1:02:20 > 1:02:24than any other country to bring North Korea to the negotiating
1:02:24 > 1:02:29table. Apart from voting for sessions at the UN, as North Korea's
1:02:29 > 1:02:37keek trading partner of the blocking of North Korean textile, seafood,
1:02:37 > 1:02:43coal exports, has hit that country's impoverished economy hard. Behind
1:02:43 > 1:02:48closed doors some Chinese diplomats will be urging caution. Remember
1:02:48 > 1:02:53this country hosted the failed six party talks. At the last minute when
1:02:53 > 1:02:59it seemed a deal had been done the full North Korea to give up its
1:02:59 > 1:03:04weapons in exchange for fuel aid, and American diplomatic recognition,
1:03:04 > 1:03:06north Korea pulled out and it collapsed.
1:03:06 > 1:03:13We also asked if China might be happy to post a meeting between Kim
1:03:13 > 1:03:18Jong-un and Donald Trump. The answer we got was China is doing all it can
1:03:18 > 1:03:23to help. The Chinese Government is saying it feels vindicated today.
1:03:23 > 1:03:28Because it sees the Winter Olympics as a breakthrough and according to
1:03:28 > 1:03:30the Chinese Government that breakthrough was achieved because
1:03:30 > 1:03:37there was a suspension of drills and a suspension of missile tests.
1:03:37 > 1:03:43Vindication Beijing says it suspension or the pension plan. So
1:03:43 > 1:03:51China can say it believes, we told you so, it worked.
1:03:53 > 1:03:55Pressure is growing on counter-terror officers
1:03:55 > 1:03:58to identify the source of a nerve agent used in the attempted
1:03:58 > 1:04:00murder of a former Russian spy and his daughter.
1:04:00 > 1:04:02The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has visited
1:04:02 > 1:04:03Salisbury this morning, where she's been speaking
1:04:03 > 1:04:04to police about the case.
1:04:04 > 1:04:06Russia's Foreign Minister has dismissed allegations
1:04:06 > 1:04:08that his Government has any link to the nerve agent attack.
1:04:08 > 1:04:11A short while ago, Amber Rudd was asked about the condition
1:04:11 > 1:04:15of Sergei Skripal and his daughter.
1:04:15 > 1:04:19Still very serious for the two people who were the subject of this
1:04:19 > 1:04:23outrageous attack. And for the police officer, I understand it is
1:04:23 > 1:04:27still serious although he is conversing and engaging.
1:04:27 > 1:04:30A teenager who attacked six moped riders with acid in a 90-minute
1:04:30 > 1:04:32rampage across London is being sentenced later.
1:04:32 > 1:04:3417-year-old Derryck John from Croydon admitted targeting
1:04:34 > 1:04:37the riders in north and east London in July last year.
1:04:37 > 1:04:40He sprayed them in the face with a noxious liquid and stole two
1:04:40 > 1:04:42mopeds before trying to take another four.
1:04:42 > 1:04:44Police said one attack had left a rider with
1:04:44 > 1:04:49"life-changing injuries".
1:04:49 > 1:04:52Earlier on the programme, we spoke to one of Derryck John's
1:04:52 > 1:04:54victims Jabed Hussain who described his injuries.
1:05:00 > 1:05:04I thought I had lost my face anyway.
1:05:04 > 1:05:06The less I saw of my face in the mirror.
1:05:06 > 1:05:08I thought I had lost my face.
1:05:08 > 1:05:10I thought I would never get my face back.
1:05:10 > 1:05:12Everyone was saying, you are OK.
1:05:12 > 1:05:20I thought they were trying to make me happy.
1:05:21 > 1:05:24But when I saw my face, then I realised, and I saw the other
1:05:24 > 1:05:26guy was in hospital, with the same issues,
1:05:26 > 1:05:34and I am better than him.
1:05:36 > 1:05:44A convoy has now arrived in Eastern Ghouta delivering aid.
1:05:44 > 1:05:47NHS employers and health unions are understood to be close
1:05:47 > 1:05:49to agreeing a three year pay deal for hundreds of thousands
1:05:49 > 1:05:50of staff in England.
1:05:50 > 1:05:53The government has already said it will abolish the one
1:05:53 > 1:05:56per cent pay cap on public sector pay and the Chancellor has indicated
1:05:56 > 1:05:59he will provide extra funding to meet the higher costs.
1:05:59 > 1:06:01The United States will impose tariffs on imports
1:06:01 > 1:06:02of aluminium and steel.
1:06:02 > 1:06:03President Trump signed off on the move
1:06:03 > 1:06:05at the White House late yesterday.
1:06:05 > 1:06:08It's sparked fears of a global trade war.
1:06:08 > 1:06:13The European Union is considering retaliating
1:06:13 > 1:06:18with charges on US-made jeans, motorbikes, bourbon and oranges.
1:06:18 > 1:06:20That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
1:06:20 > 1:06:26More at 10.30.
1:06:26 > 1:06:31We were talking about the end of NME, going into digital format.
1:06:31 > 1:06:40Doris says she remembers the NME and radio Luxembourg as being access to
1:06:40 > 1:06:44so much music. The annual concerts were brilliant and saw the
1:06:44 > 1:06:48introduction of new stars and established groups. I understand we
1:06:48 > 1:06:53use different methods but what a shame.
1:06:53 > 1:07:00And another, sad but inevitable, and any will live in digital form. The
1:07:00 > 1:07:04magazine is a business and had to follow business rules.
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1:07:13 > 1:07:15Here's some sport now.
1:07:15 > 1:07:17From 11 o'clock this morning the opening ceremony
1:07:17 > 1:07:18of the Winter Paralympics will mark
1:07:18 > 1:07:21the start of the biggest Games yet with well over 500 athletes
1:07:21 > 1:07:26competing in six disciplines from 48 countries.
1:07:26 > 1:07:29Owen Pick will lead Paralympics GB out as flagbearer.
1:07:29 > 1:07:32He's at his first Games having lost a leg while serving
1:07:32 > 1:07:38for the British Army in Afghanistan eight years ago.
1:07:38 > 1:07:44Arsenal's victory in the Europa League last night
1:07:44 > 1:07:47helped end their worst run since 2002 and ease the pressure
1:07:47 > 1:07:48on manager Arsene Wenger.
1:07:48 > 1:07:50His side went to Italy and they came back
1:07:50 > 1:07:51with a 2-0 victory.
1:07:51 > 1:07:52Henrik Mkhitaryan scored his first
1:07:52 > 1:07:55goal for the club and Aaron Ramsey added another
1:07:55 > 1:07:56at the San Siro.
1:07:56 > 1:08:04The second leg is at the Emirates next Thursday.
1:08:07 > 1:08:17Look, we have won a game, we are not qualified,
1:08:17 > 1:08:21qualified, so we have raised belief in the team. When you lose three in
1:08:21 > 1:08:25six days it is always very difficult.
1:08:25 > 1:08:29We want to keep our focus and finish the job next week, that is the
1:08:29 > 1:08:30target.
1:08:30 > 1:08:34It's a huge weekend in the Six Nations
1:08:34 > 1:08:36with plenty of permutations, but Ireland could be
1:08:36 > 1:08:38crowned champions.
1:08:38 > 1:08:42They go into their match with Scotland in Dublin
1:08:42 > 1:08:45top of the table and with three wins from three victory would keep them
1:08:45 > 1:08:48on course for a first Grand Slam in nine years.
1:08:48 > 1:08:49But remember, Scotland showed against England that
1:08:49 > 1:08:53they're no pushovers.
1:08:53 > 1:08:58It is a superb rugby star that they play which makes them very potent on
1:08:58 > 1:09:04the counter attack, attacking from loose ball, very I supposed
1:09:04 > 1:09:07dangerous in those wider channels.
1:09:07 > 1:09:09England are away in France and they need to match Ireland's
1:09:09 > 1:09:12result to keep alive their hopes of a third straight title.
1:09:12 > 1:09:14Head coach Eddie Jones has named Owen Farrell
1:09:14 > 1:09:18as captain for the first time, with Dylan Hartley out injured.
1:09:18 > 1:09:24I think these weeks when you're coming back from a loss of the week
1:09:24 > 1:09:31you live for, they really test your metal, the metal of the coaches,
1:09:31 > 1:09:37players, to keep focus and generate that energy and zest and brutality
1:09:37 > 1:09:39that you need for the next game.
1:09:39 > 1:09:41One of the greatest sports people of all time
1:09:41 > 1:09:43Serena Williams won her first singles match on the WTA Tour
1:09:43 > 1:09:49for nearly 14 months as she returned after the birth of her child.
1:09:49 > 1:09:52At 36, and having suffered what she called "near fatal" health
1:09:52 > 1:09:54complications after giving birth last September she reached
1:09:54 > 1:09:57the second round at Indian Wells with a straight sets victory over
1:09:57 > 1:09:58Kazakhstan's Zarina Diyas.
1:09:58 > 1:10:06Afterwards, Williams said she was "a little rusty".
1:10:06 > 1:10:12I almost wanted to cry because I missed my daughter I was like, oh,
1:10:12 > 1:10:16but I pulled myself together, Serena, you have got to do this. It
1:10:16 > 1:10:21was good, I was really happy to be out there and just to be able to
1:10:21 > 1:10:22play tennis again.
1:10:22 > 1:10:23But Britain's Heather Watson
1:10:23 > 1:10:24is out at Indian Wells.
1:10:24 > 1:10:25She just can't beat Victoria Azarenka.
1:10:25 > 1:10:33this is the sixth time they've met and the six time Watson has lost.
1:10:35 > 1:10:38That is all the sport for now.
1:10:38 > 1:10:40President Trump once described North Korea as "the last
1:10:40 > 1:10:42place on Earth" he would want to go.
1:10:42 > 1:10:45And only months ago he called the leader
1:10:45 > 1:10:48of the country "rocket man" because of his nuclear missile tests
1:10:48 > 1:10:50and threatened to unleash "fire and fury" on him.
1:10:50 > 1:10:53But now, in a surprise move, Donald Trump has agreed
1:10:53 > 1:10:55to an invitation to meet Kim Jong-un.
1:10:55 > 1:10:58It will be the first time a US President has ever met
1:10:58 > 1:11:01a North Korean leader and is being described as one
1:11:01 > 1:11:04of the biggest gambles of Donald Trump's presidency.
1:11:04 > 1:11:06The announcement about the meeting was made by Chung Eiu-Yong
1:11:06 > 1:11:12the head of a South Korean delegation that met both leaders.
1:11:12 > 1:11:20I told President Trump that in our meeting the North Korean leader said
1:11:20 > 1:11:30he is committed to denuclearisation, pledging that North Korea would
1:11:30 > 1:11:35refrain from any further nuclear missile tests. He understands that
1:11:35 > 1:11:41the routine joint military exercises against the Republic of Korea and
1:11:41 > 1:11:47the United States must continue, and he expressed his eagerness to meet
1:11:47 > 1:11:55President Trump as soon as possible. President Trump appreciated the
1:11:55 > 1:12:02briefing and said he would meet Kim Jong-un by May to achieve prominent
1:12:02 > 1:12:07denuclearisation. The Republic of Korea along with the United States,
1:12:07 > 1:12:13Japan and our many partners around the world remain fully and
1:12:13 > 1:12:18resolutely committed to the complete denuclearisation of the Korean
1:12:18 > 1:12:23peninsular, along with President Trump, we are optimistic about
1:12:23 > 1:12:28continuing a diplomatic process to test the possibility of a peaceful
1:12:28 > 1:12:30resolution.
1:12:30 > 1:12:33Well, it's an extraordinary overture after months of trading
1:12:33 > 1:12:40insults but can the two leaders change from enemies to frenemies?
1:12:40 > 1:12:52They will be met with Fire And Fury, like the world has never seen.
1:12:59 > 1:13:12Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself, and for his regime.
1:13:22 > 1:13:29He is a sick puppy.
1:14:23 > 1:14:28President Trump said he would meet Kim Jong-un by May to achieve
1:14:28 > 1:14:31prominent denuclearisation.
1:14:40 > 1:14:43With me are Dr Brian Klaas, a fellow at the London School
1:14:43 > 1:14:45of Economics who has worked on US political campaigns.
1:14:45 > 1:14:47Charlie Wolf, he's a political commentator and former
1:14:47 > 1:14:53communications director of Republicans Abroad UK.
1:14:54 > 1:15:00Thank you for coming in. This is so significant and historic and yet we
1:15:00 > 1:15:05don't really know much about it? We know they will properly meet
1:15:05 > 1:15:12sometime before Bay. One of the worries I have, it is a historic
1:15:12 > 1:15:16opportunity, but how the coordination has not been coming
1:15:16 > 1:15:21between the Trump administration and State Department. Rex Tillerson a
1:15:21 > 1:15:27few hours downplayed the possibility of any negotiations. If you hours
1:15:27 > 1:15:32later the announcement they would meet head-to-head.
1:15:32 > 1:15:38Isn't that just the way he runs the White House?This is why the rubber
1:15:38 > 1:15:43hits the road, it is a major gamble. We are banking on someone who is not
1:15:43 > 1:15:52a details person. He has mistaken in the past the past three leaders of
1:15:52 > 1:15:53North Korea as the same
1:15:59 > 1:16:00It is a problem that
1:16:00 > 1:16:03It is a problem that needs to get solved, but North Korea has a
1:16:03 > 1:16:08history of using negotiations to buy time and we hope that the US has
1:16:08 > 1:16:11ample time to prepare and coordinating come to a peaceful
1:16:11 > 1:16:16solution that ends up resolving the crisis.We have been played several
1:16:16 > 1:16:22times under George Bush and Clinton and even back to Carter. The Kim
1:16:22 > 1:16:29family are good falling, but this time you have a man in the White
1:16:29 > 1:16:32House who is a deal-maker and part of being a deal-maker is knowing not
1:16:32 > 1:16:37to take one when it is not right. So Barack Obama, his problem was that
1:16:37 > 1:16:41there had to be a deal and he would give away the farm just to get the
1:16:41 > 1:16:45deal and get nothing in return. I think Donald Trump will take a bit
1:16:45 > 1:16:50more of a different approach. He is a hard guy. The whole theory of
1:16:50 > 1:16:54calling him rocket man and this fire and Furyk, that is projecting power
1:16:54 > 1:16:58and that is what I think brought into the table. He understands that
1:16:58 > 1:17:04need to carry a big stick. Walk softly and carry a big stick.So
1:17:04 > 1:17:08President Trump has played a blinder, and that is what has forced
1:17:08 > 1:17:13him to the table.It's played a major part.Do you believe that?I
1:17:13 > 1:17:18don't, because in the process, we have alienated several allies. South
1:17:18 > 1:17:23Korea and Japan are on different pages to the US and we need to
1:17:23 > 1:17:27coordinate with them. So there is a risk by going into bilateral talks
1:17:27 > 1:17:31we have Donald Trump in a room making a deal that South Korea and
1:17:31 > 1:17:38Japan cannot live will and that is a real risk. Thereon many countries --
1:17:38 > 1:17:42there are many countries at stake, it's not just North Korea, it is the
1:17:42 > 1:17:45key allies in the region, and China needs to be on board with the
1:17:45 > 1:17:50decision, so you have the risk that the bilateral talks are a concession
1:17:50 > 1:17:56to the regime of Kim and there might be a positive result, but they are
1:17:56 > 1:17:59extremely risky. I hope the State Department works closely with Trump
1:17:59 > 1:18:04to evolve a clear plan and not just wing it. What Trump did yesterday
1:18:04 > 1:18:07was to show that he could make things up as he goes along is and
1:18:07 > 1:18:11I'm extremely worried about that. That is the way he's run the
1:18:11 > 1:18:16presidency so far.It doesn't seem to work them. It's not the norm --
1:18:16 > 1:18:24it does seem to work for him. Academics are driven crazy and we
1:18:24 > 1:18:30might not understand it but it does seem to work.We just got this from
1:18:30 > 1:18:34the International atomic agency saying that they are closely
1:18:34 > 1:18:37following developments related to the nuclear programme of North Korea
1:18:37 > 1:18:41and we hope these development will lead to concrete progress regarding
1:18:41 > 1:18:46the nuclear issue. We continue to monitor the North Korea nuclear
1:18:46 > 1:18:50programme, including the use of satellite imagery. We stand ready to
1:18:50 > 1:18:53contribute to its peaceful resolution by resuming our
1:18:53 > 1:18:56verification activities in the country once the political agreement
1:18:56 > 1:19:04is reached amongst the countries concerned. I want to just break down
1:19:04 > 1:19:08the elements of the deal and it appears that North Korea has agreed
1:19:08 > 1:19:14to this in order to have talks. One of the significant things it is. Kim
1:19:14 > 1:19:17Jong-un says a commitment to denuclearisation which is clearly
1:19:17 > 1:19:21important but he also says he understands that the US and South
1:19:21 > 1:19:24Korean military drills must continue, the drills that happen
1:19:24 > 1:19:28once a year. It is a huge show of strength. Very close to North Korea
1:19:28 > 1:19:34and for so long they have been very angry at this and think it is
1:19:34 > 1:19:41provocation. That is a pretty significant step.Brian will notice
1:19:41 > 1:19:46that the US has not dropped sanctions and the other punishments
1:19:46 > 1:19:50they have had going on the regime. He is not just giving in. He still
1:19:50 > 1:19:55has to learn of this.The denuclearisation is the goal and
1:19:55 > 1:19:58it's the goal that is broadly fantasy because the odds that he
1:19:58 > 1:20:05will give up nuclear weapons is virtually zero. Putting the talks as
1:20:05 > 1:20:09a gambit to denuclearisation is an ambitious goal but it is one that
1:20:09 > 1:20:13could do it if that is the only goal, so I don't think the freezing
1:20:13 > 1:20:17of the testing is a massive concession because the dynasty has
1:20:17 > 1:20:20done this multiple times on what they've done during this freeze
1:20:20 > 1:20:24period is do research, further the programme and come at the talks with
1:20:24 > 1:20:30nothing changing, but the nuclear development is advanced. The real
1:20:30 > 1:20:34risk is that the US is played without getting concessions. All of
1:20:34 > 1:20:38us hope this time is different and it is the first time a US president
1:20:38 > 1:20:42is involving 121 talks and we have our fingers crossed but it's a
1:20:42 > 1:20:45question of whether this ends up coming to fruition in a positive
1:20:45 > 1:20:50way.What will North Korea want in return? They won't give everything
1:20:50 > 1:20:55up.We have no idea. Generally in the past it has been wheat, food,
1:20:55 > 1:21:03hard cash but they separated dealing with North Korea and Iran, because
1:21:03 > 1:21:08Iran never knew what they wanted. It is a Marxist government with people
1:21:08 > 1:21:15starving so he's holding a nuclear pistol to our heads.Interesting to
1:21:15 > 1:21:19know if they will shake hands and I think people will expect that. Thank
1:21:19 > 1:21:28you both for coming in. Still to come, the government has failed to
1:21:28 > 1:21:37back a latte levy on coffee cups. Get in touch in the usual way.
1:21:37 > 1:21:39The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd has just visited
1:21:39 > 1:21:42the scene of the attack on a former Russian spy in Salisbury and praised
1:21:42 > 1:21:43the police for their response.
1:21:43 > 1:21:46Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, have been in hospital
1:21:46 > 1:21:48since they were found unconscious on a bench on Sunday.
1:21:48 > 1:21:50Officials say they were poisoned by a nerve agent.
1:21:50 > 1:21:53Amber Rudd gave this update in the last half an hour.
1:21:53 > 1:21:56I understand people's curiosity about all those questions and
1:21:56 > 1:22:00wanting to have answers and there will be a time to have those
1:22:00 > 1:22:04answers. But the best way to get to them is to make sure we give the
1:22:04 > 1:22:09police the space that they need to really go through the area carefully
1:22:09 > 1:22:13to do their investigation and to make sure they have all the support
1:22:13 > 1:22:18they need in order to get that.The reason many people have those
1:22:18 > 1:22:21questions as they will be concerned about safety. This is somebody
1:22:21 > 1:22:25potentially walking around Britain with a chemical weapon. It's not
1:22:25 > 1:22:29just curiosity, it's a concern over safety.It is exactly that concern
1:22:29 > 1:22:33about safety which is why we need all the information we can from this
1:22:33 > 1:22:40incident in order to make everybody say and we have to give the police
1:22:40 > 1:22:48all the space they need in order to collect all the information to be
1:22:48 > 1:22:51absolutely clear that there is no further risk. We need to make sure
1:22:51 > 1:22:57they can do the investigation and collected so it can be confirmed.
1:22:57 > 1:23:03What is the current range of options once it has the facts here?At the
1:23:03 > 1:23:06moment the priority will be the incident, which is why I'm in
1:23:06 > 1:23:11Salisbury today to make sure that everybody is protected around here
1:23:11 > 1:23:14and making sure the emergency services have had the support that
1:23:14 > 1:23:18they need and will continue to get and it is great to hear that that is
1:23:18 > 1:23:22the case. In terms of further options, that will have to wait
1:23:22 > 1:23:27until we are absolutely clear what the consequences could be and what
1:23:27 > 1:23:31the actual source of this nerve agent has been.
1:23:31 > 1:23:34So how have people living in Salisbury reacted to this attack
1:23:34 > 1:23:35in the middle of their city?
1:23:35 > 1:23:42Let's speak now to John Glen, the Conservative MP for Salisbury.
1:23:42 > 1:23:46We hope in a minute to speak to a former member of Greater Manchester
1:23:46 > 1:23:49Police but we're struggling to connect right now.And we are
1:23:49 > 1:23:55speaking to Pat
1:23:55 > 1:23:55speaking to Pat Sessions --
1:23:55 > 1:23:57Also joining us is Pat Sissons, a radio station
1:23:57 > 1:23:59journalist who has been covering the updates in story.
1:23:59 > 1:24:01And Anthony Davies who owns a coffee shop
1:24:01 > 1:24:05near to where the incident happened.
1:24:05 > 1:24:08John, you have been out speaking to the constituents. Is there a sense
1:24:08 > 1:24:14of worry, maybe panic in Salisbury about what has happened and the
1:24:14 > 1:24:21continued police activity there?I think people have seen what has
1:24:21 > 1:24:25happened and as the week has progressed people have been
1:24:25 > 1:24:29reassured by the statement from the Chief Medical Officer and the words
1:24:29 > 1:24:37of the Home Secretary. She was able to visit the crime scene, Amber
1:24:37 > 1:24:44Rudd, and go to the hospital. People understand it's an exceptional event
1:24:44 > 1:24:48and were trying to work out what happened and why and how, but I
1:24:48 > 1:24:53think people are reassured by what they have heard and I don't see on
1:24:53 > 1:24:56the streets of Salisbury any widespread panic, but they do want
1:24:56 > 1:25:03to know what happened.I know your copy shop is very close to where
1:25:03 > 1:25:07this happened. You are open now, presumably, so what are people
1:25:07 > 1:25:12saying as they come in and get copied and have a chat.Everyone is
1:25:12 > 1:25:18generally interested in what is going on and they want answers, but
1:25:18 > 1:25:22as John correctly said, there is no major panic, it's more interest and
1:25:22 > 1:25:28intrigue and more concerned for the well-being of the victims and
1:25:28 > 1:25:33obviously the policeman. But also to try and understand what is going on
1:25:33 > 1:25:38and to let the police get on and do the job and let them understand what
1:25:38 > 1:25:42has happened so we can get this result. There is certainly no panic
1:25:42 > 1:25:49or major concern will stop its more intrigue and interest and concern
1:25:49 > 1:25:57regarding the people who are being targeted very badly by this.
1:25:57 > 1:26:03Anthony, I could see you nodding away. Is that the sense you are
1:26:03 > 1:26:10getting as you speak to people and follow the story.When it was
1:26:10 > 1:26:15revealed one of the policeman had been hospitalised, that is where the
1:26:15 > 1:26:22focus came. There hasn't been panic but when you see people in full
1:26:22 > 1:26:28asthmatics walking through an area you know
1:26:30 > 1:26:33you know where all, that happens so suddenly and everybody was so
1:26:33 > 1:26:39bewildered that once it was known, and Salisbury is a small city, and I
1:26:39 > 1:26:41would say everybody knows everyone but friends of friends will know
1:26:41 > 1:26:46someone involved, and for a serving police officer to be involved, that
1:26:46 > 1:26:54is the focus of concern a lot of the time.Do people feel that they are
1:26:54 > 1:26:56getting enough information? We are told that the government knows what
1:26:56 > 1:27:01the nerve agent is but they are not releasing that right now. Our people
1:27:01 > 1:27:07satisfied that this is being handled in a correct way?I certainly am. I
1:27:07 > 1:27:11think it comes back to the fact that the police are doing everything they
1:27:11 > 1:27:17can. We know they are trying to do it in the right way and there is a
1:27:17 > 1:27:21right way and wrong way to do it. There's no point in everybody
1:27:21 > 1:27:25jumping to conclusions. The worst thing anybody can do is jump to
1:27:25 > 1:27:28conclusions and start pointing fingers, has already happened. The
1:27:28 > 1:27:33only thing from my point of view is that the police do what they do best
1:27:33 > 1:27:39and that's the only thing we can ask for.I know, John Glenn, you are on
1:27:39 > 1:27:45the Home Secretary earlier this morning -- you were with the Home
1:27:45 > 1:27:48Secretary on the visit. Is it right that the information is not being
1:27:48 > 1:27:54released to the public to know what the nerve agent was?I cannot see
1:27:54 > 1:27:59the useful mass of knowing what the agent is at the moment. The Home
1:27:59 > 1:28:02Secretary is well placed to understand the implications of
1:28:02 > 1:28:08telling everyone that -- I cannot see what the usefulness. She is
1:28:08 > 1:28:11being advised by special officers from the Met police working with
1:28:11 > 1:28:16Wiltshire officers to undertake the investigation and we should rely on
1:28:16 > 1:28:20their judgment as they advise us on what is appropriate to know. But we
1:28:20 > 1:28:25do know it's a serious incident. It's essentially a silent
1:28:25 > 1:28:32assassination on the attempt -- an attempt on the streets of Salisbury,
1:28:32 > 1:28:34and police officers have been injured in the course of doing their
1:28:34 > 1:28:39duty. We know the basic outline of what has happened and the details
1:28:39 > 1:28:44will emerge when it's appropriate and we need to know.Do you worry
1:28:44 > 1:28:48that trade might be affected? People see Salisbury on the news and lots
1:28:48 > 1:28:53of tourists go there.Is that a concern? Yes, in the long term it
1:28:53 > 1:28:59is. Salisbury is a small city which relies heavily on tourism and it has
1:28:59 > 1:29:05been noticeably quieter but that is just a symptom of what has been
1:29:05 > 1:29:08going on as everyone has been keeping out of the way of letting
1:29:08 > 1:29:12the police do what they do. Ultimately there are businesses that
1:29:12 > 1:29:15are still close in the immediate vicinity of where this took place
1:29:15 > 1:29:22and they will need to be looked after and make sure they are OK.
1:29:22 > 1:29:25Long-term, hopefully this won't have a negative effect on the city and
1:29:25 > 1:29:30the businesses. I don't think it will long-term. These things happen
1:29:30 > 1:29:37all around the world but life goes on. There will always be people who
1:29:37 > 1:29:41do certain things like this and we just get on with it and deal with it
1:29:41 > 1:29:47and we can only do what we can do best.You say quieter, but Pat, the
1:29:47 > 1:29:51world media has descended on Salisbury, and I wonder if you're
1:29:51 > 1:29:54getting a sense that they are getting fed up with that attention
1:29:54 > 1:29:59as it goes on and the sheer number of people reporting?Understandably
1:29:59 > 1:30:03there was a lot of excitement at first when you see famous faces from
1:30:03 > 1:30:07the TV camped out on traffic islands in the market in Salisbury with
1:30:07 > 1:30:11people trying to put it on Instagram, but as time goes on, you
1:30:11 > 1:30:15might see that because the city is trying to get on with day to day
1:30:15 > 1:30:18life unlike Anthony says, it will spring back, but there is concern
1:30:18 > 1:30:23that the message is going out that the shops are shot and we got a
1:30:23 > 1:30:26message from one of the other businesses in the shopping centre
1:30:26 > 1:30:30that is part of the police called in -- police called in, saying they
1:30:30 > 1:30:36were three-day shot because of the end of the last week with the snow,
1:30:36 > 1:30:39so the continued media focus might be fuelling that a bit. Salisbury
1:30:39 > 1:30:41businesses want people to know they are open.
1:30:45 > 1:30:50do you get a sense people are getting annoyed with the media
1:30:50 > 1:30:55traipsing around? A little bit. There are a lot of
1:30:55 > 1:31:01people taking photos. Again, unfortunately, that is a symptom of
1:31:01 > 1:31:08the situation. It is not too bad at the moment. If it carries on, the
1:31:08 > 1:31:16wrong message gets out, then the annoyance factor will go up and we
1:31:16 > 1:31:20will get frustrated about dozens of photographers standing around
1:31:20 > 1:31:28everywhere. I am pleased to say we can bring in
1:31:28 > 1:31:32Martin, a former greater Manchester Superintendent, a friend of Nick
1:31:32 > 1:31:38Bailey, the police officer who was injured.
1:31:38 > 1:31:42injured. First of all, when you heard yesterday Nick Bailey was the
1:31:42 > 1:31:46police Sergeant being treated in hospital, did it surprise you
1:31:46 > 1:31:50knowing the man that he rushed to help out straightaway?
1:31:50 > 1:31:57It didn't surprise me at all, knowing Nick, and I have known him
1:31:57 > 1:32:04for the last three years in Wiltshire Police, I found him
1:32:04 > 1:32:08absolutely a leader, someone who will take the lead and put the
1:32:08 > 1:32:13public first. In evidence we have done, work with Nick, it has been
1:32:13 > 1:32:18about putting the public first. It came as no surprise to find he was
1:32:18 > 1:32:22involved in this. As a police officer confronted with
1:32:22 > 1:32:27a situation where you cannot clearly know all of the facts as you appear
1:32:27 > 1:32:32on scene, what goes through your mind? Do you worry, get concerned,
1:32:32 > 1:32:35or is it professional charge into help?
1:32:35 > 1:32:42It is a mixture of both. You do worry. Quite often you will get a
1:32:42 > 1:32:46phrase through your head saying, this will hurt. By the same token,
1:32:46 > 1:32:53you move forward and rush into danger. If you look at London
1:32:53 > 1:33:00bridge, Borough market, Westminster, officers attending burglaries, there
1:33:00 > 1:33:04is always a risk, always fear, but you always go forward and put the
1:33:04 > 1:33:09risk at the back of your mind because your job, first of all, is
1:33:09 > 1:33:13to keep yourself safe but to look after members of the public.
1:33:13 > 1:33:19The BBC is getting reports Sergei Skripal may have been poisoned at
1:33:19 > 1:33:23his home, is that something you have heard?
1:33:23 > 1:33:28I have only heard it on media outlets this morning, I am hearing
1:33:28 > 1:33:33exactly the same as everyone else, I have no access to any other
1:33:33 > 1:33:36information at this moment. Thank you all so much for speaking
1:33:36 > 1:33:39to us this morning, I am grateful for your time.
1:33:39 > 1:33:40Still to come.
1:33:40 > 1:33:43Ahead of Mother's Day this Sunday, we will be taking a closer look
1:33:43 > 1:33:46at stories of childbirth across the globe.
1:33:46 > 1:33:48Calls to impose a so-called latte levy on throwaway
1:33:48 > 1:33:51coffee cups have been rejected.
1:33:51 > 1:33:54Do you think it is better for customers to bring their own
1:33:54 > 1:33:55coffee cups along with them?
1:33:55 > 1:33:58We'll be discussing this soon.
1:34:10 > 1:34:15It's Mother's Day on Sunday.
1:34:15 > 1:34:21have followed five different mums from Kenya, Romania, Guatemala,
1:34:21 > 1:34:24Nepal and the UK and captured key moments of childbirth.
1:34:24 > 1:34:29Each of the mothers gave birth successfully but their stories
1:34:29 > 1:34:32are a moving reminder of how different things can be when mothers
1:34:32 > 1:34:33are forced to give birth alone.
1:34:33 > 1:34:37The charity is calling on all governments across the world
1:34:37 > 1:34:38to ensure that by 2030 everyone has universal access to
1:34:38 > 1:34:43essential health services.
1:34:43 > 1:34:46Ellen Shepherd is a mother from the UK, and was captured
1:34:46 > 1:34:50on film giving birth to baby Alice.
1:34:50 > 1:34:53We'll speak to Ellen in a moment.
1:34:53 > 1:34:57First, let's watch the journey of those five mothers,
1:34:57 > 1:35:00and as a warning, these images given to us by Save the Children
1:35:00 > 1:35:06do show childbirth.
1:35:17 > 1:35:21I'd always kind of imagined I would be a mum one day
1:35:21 > 1:35:24but I didn't get that real broodiness, so it was always,
1:35:24 > 1:35:25"One day in the future."
1:35:25 > 1:35:27I ended up going through two rounds of IVF that
1:35:27 > 1:35:30didn't work and separately had two very early miscarriages.
1:35:30 > 1:35:32It is a real shift in how you see things.
1:35:32 > 1:35:35Yeah, it was difficult to deal with.
1:36:06 > 1:36:08He really wanted a family and a child, and he was crazy
1:36:08 > 1:36:10about children.
1:36:10 > 1:36:13I was actually quite afraid when I found out that I
1:36:13 > 1:36:16was pregnant.
1:36:16 > 1:36:19He was such a calm person and he just looked at me,
1:36:19 > 1:36:20smiled said to me, "Come on,
1:36:20 > 1:36:24baby, it's never, you know, the perfect time."
1:36:24 > 1:36:30I was absolutely sure that things would be OK, you know.
1:36:30 > 1:36:33When I was four months' pregnant, he had a stroke and,
1:36:33 > 1:36:37after three weeks, he died.
1:36:37 > 1:36:45Everything that we expected just changed.
1:37:07 > 1:37:09I had no idea how intense the contractions
1:37:09 > 1:37:12would be and how difficult they would be to get through.
1:37:12 > 1:37:16Well done.
1:37:16 > 1:37:19She came out purple and not breathing.
1:37:19 > 1:37:25I didn't really register that in the way they were rubbing her.
1:37:25 > 1:37:28I know you wanted to delay but give her minute and, if she isn't,
1:37:28 > 1:37:30I'm going to cut the cord.
1:37:30 > 1:37:31Come on.
1:37:31 > 1:37:32OK.
1:37:32 > 1:37:35Come on, little lady.
1:37:35 > 1:37:38Can we get an extra pair of hands?
1:37:42 > 1:37:43It's not rising.
1:37:43 > 1:37:46Temperature's not rising.
1:37:47 > 1:37:48And again.
1:37:48 > 1:37:50No.
1:37:50 > 1:37:56Can you keep an eye on mum?
1:37:57 > 1:37:59The longer it took, the more you think, "Well,
1:37:59 > 1:38:01is she going to start breathing?"
1:38:01 > 1:38:07I think I was crying at that point.
1:38:07 > 1:38:12Andy was in a bit of a state behind me.
1:38:12 > 1:38:15After that, we heard her cry so the ventilation had got her going.
1:38:46 > 1:38:48Tried.
1:38:48 > 1:38:52You saw, they told me, "Push."
1:38:52 > 1:38:59But she was just blocked there so I couldn't make it.
1:38:59 > 1:39:01There is a small part of the C section
1:39:01 > 1:39:02I don't remember.
1:39:02 > 1:39:03The part in the middle.
1:39:03 > 1:39:06It is a blank.
1:39:10 > 1:39:12I just remember when they came in and
1:39:12 > 1:39:13brought her to me.
1:39:17 > 1:39:18Vamos.
1:39:18 > 1:39:21Vamos.
1:40:40 > 1:40:42She's wonderful.
1:40:42 > 1:40:43She's like a little treasure, you know.
1:40:43 > 1:40:45She's wonderful.
1:40:45 > 1:40:53I think she's the best thing in my life.
1:40:56 > 1:40:59Let's speak to Ellen Shepherd the UK mum featured
1:40:59 > 1:41:02in the Save The Children film.
1:41:02 > 1:41:05Ellen is with her daughter Alice who is now three and a half months
1:41:05 > 1:41:08old.
1:41:08 > 1:41:10And Simon Wright, director of international
1:41:10 > 1:41:18development at Save the Children UK.
1:41:18 > 1:41:26Alice, you are staring at me beautifully, probably full of milk!
1:41:26 > 1:41:31Alice is safe now. We saw it was a traumatic birth. You had a dramatic
1:41:31 > 1:41:37journey even conceiving. Most of my delivery was reasonably
1:41:37 > 1:41:41calm but at the end she was very sloppy and it took them three
1:41:41 > 1:41:48minutes to resuscitate her which was terrifying. It had been a long
1:41:48 > 1:41:52journey, we spent 20 months knowing we might find it difficult to
1:41:52 > 1:41:59conceive. We had two unsuccessful rounds of IVF. And another two
1:41:59 > 1:42:06miscarriages. We were told we should think about using an egg donor. The
1:42:06 > 1:42:10month after Alice was conceived. To have gone through that and to
1:42:10 > 1:42:16have Alice born in that state, did you understand what was happening?
1:42:16 > 1:42:19You are in a haze when you are giving birth.
1:42:19 > 1:42:28I didn't remember her being like that until I saw that footage. For
1:42:28 > 1:42:31the first few minutes I had so much faith in the midwives who stayed so
1:42:31 > 1:42:37calm, the doctors came in, I thought this happens a lot, they know what
1:42:37 > 1:42:46they are doing. Then I was starting to panic. Thinking what if she
1:42:46 > 1:42:50doesn't start breathing.She is clearly doing fine now. Simon, for
1:42:50 > 1:42:55any woman who has given birth, they will know every birth is different.
1:42:55 > 1:42:59The care you receive in the UK is pretty much the same but that can't
1:42:59 > 1:43:06be sent for women around the world. Access to health workers to support
1:43:06 > 1:43:11birth is an unequal service. 30 million women in the world give
1:43:11 > 1:43:14birth every year without any trained health worker by their side. If
1:43:14 > 1:43:21something goes wrong, there is no one there who knows what to do. That
1:43:21 > 1:43:27is why there are such high rates of maternal mortality and newborn
1:43:27 > 1:43:35mortality. That is why we and our partners creating this film, we want
1:43:35 > 1:43:39to draw attention to the fact it is so unequal.
1:43:39 > 1:43:43Not too mention terrifying and incredibly painful, these women are
1:43:43 > 1:43:48doing this without any pain relief. Where are the places in the world
1:43:48 > 1:43:55where women are most vulnerable?Sub Saharan Africa, South Asia, where
1:43:55 > 1:43:59there is no investment in health services, very few health workers or
1:43:59 > 1:44:06not enough, and they are not fairly distributed. Countries like India,
1:44:06 > 1:44:10Kenny, Nigeria, the chances of whether you get this skilled birth
1:44:10 > 1:44:14attendant depends on your wealth. In the richest part of the publisher
1:44:14 > 1:44:19and you will get good care. In the poorest, half the women are getting
1:44:19 > 1:44:25no support. Often women have to travel a long
1:44:25 > 1:44:30way to access medical care. For you, you were very brave to have your
1:44:30 > 1:44:34birth documented, did you have to think about whether you wanted to
1:44:34 > 1:44:41take part? We didn't fully anticipate quite how
1:44:41 > 1:44:46intimate the footage would be beforehand. But I do like capturing
1:44:46 > 1:44:51things like that and I have been very open about miscarriages and IVF
1:44:51 > 1:44:56and it is a shame we don't talk more about these things as a society. I
1:44:56 > 1:45:01was keen to become part of the conversation.
1:45:01 > 1:45:06To see the different experiences of the different women, was it an
1:45:06 > 1:45:12eye-opener? It was. I had to be flat on my back,
1:45:12 > 1:45:20on a hard bed, I can imagine being there.
1:45:21 > 1:45:24The thought of giving birth on your own, I cannot even begin to imagine,
1:45:24 > 1:45:30the idea of no pain relief, or whatever. Is this simply down to
1:45:30 > 1:45:37money? Is -- if money gets thrown at the problem will it be solved?Not
1:45:37 > 1:45:40simply. There are countries not spending enough on their health
1:45:40 > 1:45:44services that are organising it in better ways but skilled birth
1:45:44 > 1:45:48attendants, you need a health service which is local, available 24
1:45:48 > 1:45:51hours a day which women can get to when they need that kind of support
1:45:51 > 1:45:54and in the case of an obstructed labour whether Caesarean is needed,
1:45:54 > 1:46:00you need a higher quality of medical expertise to react. It's not just
1:46:00 > 1:46:03money, it's how it's organised and whether it's organised fairly, and
1:46:03 > 1:46:06the fact it's so unequal in this country shows that countries could
1:46:06 > 1:46:11be taking a different approach. This commitment to universal health
1:46:11 > 1:46:14coverage that governments have made is about this. Everybody should get
1:46:14 > 1:46:17the health service they need and it shouldn't matter whether they have
1:46:17 > 1:46:23cash to pay for it or.What would happen if a woman is is -- is in a
1:46:23 > 1:46:29rural village in sub Saharan Africa, a long way away from a medical
1:46:29 > 1:46:32facility? How can you make sure there will be a birth attendant with
1:46:32 > 1:46:36her?You need to invest in local health services and referral
1:46:36 > 1:46:41services. If there is a need for a Caesarean, you need something where
1:46:41 > 1:46:47women can get a facility to get it and that involves transport, and in
1:46:47 > 1:46:52Kenny one of the women who gave birth there trouble by motorbike --
1:46:52 > 1:46:59Kenya. -- travelled by motorbike. You have to see who is paying for
1:46:59 > 1:47:03the transport, and the roads, it's all vitally important.It's been
1:47:03 > 1:47:06lovely to have you come in and it is Mother's Day on Sunday, your first
1:47:06 > 1:47:12Mother's Day. Any plans?Sleep? We are going on a plane to Ireland for
1:47:12 > 1:47:15a wedding so it will be an amazing one.It's the best time to travel
1:47:15 > 1:47:23when they are that small. They don't cry as much.
1:47:23 > 1:47:33Some breaking news on Syria, and the Syria aid convoy shelling in Ghouta,
1:47:33 > 1:47:40this is coming from a UN representative in eastern Ghouta is
1:47:40 > 1:47:47putting the UN, ICRC convoy at risk, and despite assurances of safety
1:47:47 > 1:47:51from parties including the Russian Federation. Today's convoy entered
1:47:51 > 1:47:55to deliver the remaining aid that could not be off-loaded from
1:47:55 > 1:47:59Monday's convoy which was due to insecurity and the ongoing fighting.
1:47:59 > 1:48:04The UN has called for a cessation of hostilities in the area and for calm
1:48:04 > 1:48:07throughout Syria so that aid can be safely delivered to the people in
1:48:07 > 1:48:13need. That update comes to us from Syria about the risk to the aid
1:48:13 > 1:48:17convoy as they are trying to get aid into that desperate town of eastern
1:48:17 > 1:48:20Ghouta.
1:48:20 > 1:48:23Now are you one of the many people who can't start their day
1:48:23 > 1:48:24without a takeaway coffee?
1:48:24 > 1:48:26Every day hundreds of thousands of us throw our coffee cup
1:48:26 > 1:48:28into a recycling bin.
1:48:28 > 1:48:30But these cups are aren't easily recyclable, and the UK throws away
1:48:30 > 1:48:332.5 billion of them a year.
1:48:33 > 1:48:36Now the idea of putting a 25p charge on the cups has been
1:48:36 > 1:48:38rejected by the Government.
1:48:38 > 1:48:40Ministers say it's better for cafes to offer discounts to customers
1:48:40 > 1:48:44who bring their own cups.
1:48:44 > 1:48:46We'll talk about that with one of the MPs
1:48:46 > 1:48:48calling for this tax in a moment.
1:48:48 > 1:48:53But it's not just coffee cups that are adding
1:48:53 > 1:48:54to the plastic mountain and damaging the environment.
1:48:54 > 1:49:02Here are some tips on reducing our use of plastic.
1:49:10 > 1:49:14Have you ever thought that every single plastic toothbrush you have
1:49:14 > 1:49:16used is sitting out there in landfill?
1:51:49 > 1:51:52And for more on the Government's rejection
1:51:52 > 1:51:55of a "latte levy", I'm joined in the studio by Gavin Ellis from
1:51:55 > 1:52:03the environmental charity Hubbub.
1:52:03 > 1:52:05He provided evidence to the committee of MPs
1:52:05 > 1:52:06calling for this levy.
1:52:06 > 1:52:08And from our Leeds Newsroom we can hear from Labour
1:52:08 > 1:52:13and Co-operative MP Alex Sobel who is a member of that committee.
1:52:13 > 1:52:18Gavin, explain why you think it is so important that you go for the
1:52:18 > 1:52:21stick approach rather than the carrot?I think we need both. I
1:52:21 > 1:52:26don't think it's about one or the other. The interesting thing about
1:52:26 > 1:52:30what we found today is that the government rejected a call for a
1:52:30 > 1:52:36latte levy, and a lot of the evidence shows that people are more
1:52:36 > 1:52:40receptive to being charged for something than being given a
1:52:40 > 1:52:45discount.Like carrier bags? Exactly. We are involved in a trial
1:52:45 > 1:52:51in 35 Starbucks store where they are adding 5p levy on to every cup sold
1:52:51 > 1:52:55in the stores. That is running for three months and it's only just
1:52:55 > 1:52:59started. We are disappointed that the government hasn't waited to see
1:52:59 > 1:53:02the results of the trial before dismissing the levy.What is the 5p
1:53:02 > 1:53:10for? To help recycle? Or to get people to think more?We are the
1:53:10 > 1:53:14recipients of the 5p and we work with the charity to change other
1:53:14 > 1:53:19people behaviours and shift them to reusable cups.Alex, why you think
1:53:19 > 1:53:25it is better that there is an incentive to use reusable cups
1:53:25 > 1:53:33rather than this 25p levy?In the report we want to phase out these
1:53:33 > 1:53:39types of disposable coffee cups and we need to create a pathway and the
1:53:39 > 1:53:4825p levy would create recycle facilities for coffee chains,
1:53:48 > 1:53:50manufacturers, to create properly nonplastic cups to use. It would
1:53:50 > 1:53:55create both those things.But it means we have five years of still
1:53:55 > 1:53:58having these copy cups that we get through at an alarming rate and
1:53:58 > 1:54:03nothing is done about it.To be fair, five years is a reasonable
1:54:03 > 1:54:06compromise between us on the government. We thought we were
1:54:06 > 1:54:10proposing something the government might take on. The government gave
1:54:10 > 1:54:13the impression a few weeks ago it would introduce the levy and they
1:54:13 > 1:54:16have rowed back. It's typical of this government to go for voluntary
1:54:16 > 1:54:22measures to go -- that don't work. In 2023, what is the plan? What
1:54:22 > 1:54:28would the copy cups look like?They would look different is, but
1:54:28 > 1:54:31manufacturers would find bio alternatives or paper alternative to
1:54:31 > 1:54:37plastic -- coffee cups.It is realistic if the government apply
1:54:37 > 1:54:44some pressure and at the moment it is all voluntary and the onus is on
1:54:44 > 1:54:52giving discounts on reusable cups but the vast majority so it's only
1:54:52 > 1:54:58about once up to 2% use the reusables despite the incentives, so
1:54:58 > 1:55:03we need to try the different approach and we will be openly
1:55:03 > 1:55:07sharing the results of this at the end of it.Shouldn't the copy shops
1:55:07 > 1:55:13be sucking this up rather than the consumers? -- coffee shops.There is
1:55:13 > 1:55:17a lot of money to be made through disposable cups. The industry hasn't
1:55:17 > 1:55:24done enough. We ran a campaign backed by most of the industry that
1:55:24 > 1:55:30recycled 4 million cups, in the city, in nine months. But with a few
1:55:30 > 1:55:33exceptions the industry has backed away and not shown any appetite to
1:55:33 > 1:55:38learn from it or extended to other areas.Would that not be a better
1:55:38 > 1:55:44strategy that you penalised the copy chains -- coffee chains rather than
1:55:44 > 1:55:47the customers and create a new tax? We need to look at the example of
1:55:47 > 1:55:54the plastic bags. That 5p levy has created an 85% reduction in the used
1:55:54 > 1:55:59in shops and supermarkets and it's the same principle. So we have got
1:55:59 > 1:56:03proof that it works and we need to apply to copy cups and potentially
1:56:03 > 1:56:07look at other places to apply it in terms of plastics.I was saying
1:56:07 > 1:56:11before, Gavin, when you go into a copy cups, people on their phones
1:56:11 > 1:56:19and doing other things -- coffee. It's not obvious where a reusable
1:56:19 > 1:56:23cup is to buy. Do the coffee firms need to stick it on the counter in
1:56:23 > 1:56:28front of our noses, or maybe we should get it free?That is
1:56:28 > 1:56:31definitely true. Some are better than others, but by and large it's
1:56:31 > 1:56:34not that obvious and they are inconspicuous. If it's obvious they
1:56:34 > 1:56:39are on the till and they are there and they are encouraged to use it,
1:56:39 > 1:56:44they will be taken up more.Do you agree that they should be more
1:56:44 > 1:56:51obvious?Absolutely. Coffey retailers are moving in that
1:56:51 > 1:56:54direction but the 25p charge would supercharge that and we would see it
1:56:54 > 1:56:59straightaway that there would be alternatives, just with plastic
1:56:59 > 1:57:07bags, it became much more obvious when the 5p charge was introduced.
1:57:07 > 1:57:10View messages coming in with Wendy saying we should adopt Italian style
1:57:10 > 1:57:15copy shops where the copy is cheaper and smaller but you drink it
1:57:15 > 1:57:21standing at the counter.It doesn't necessarily go with the big cities
1:57:21 > 1:57:27and that on the go culture but the charging for disposable cups might
1:57:27 > 1:57:31encourage people to drink it in store as well.Jack says I work for
1:57:31 > 1:57:38a copy chain and we offer a discount for reusable cups -- coffee chain.
1:57:38 > 1:57:44We then collect ones and recycle them. Irrespective of how
1:57:44 > 1:57:47politicians vote, companies have a responsibility for community
1:57:47 > 1:57:50leadership and should be taking the lead in being environmentally
1:57:50 > 1:57:55responsible. Jade has tweeted saying my university offers discounted hot
1:57:55 > 1:58:02drinks to those who bring reusable coffee cups and it is an incentive.
1:58:02 > 1:58:08I am just being told that we need to bring you this breaking news, just
1:58:08 > 1:58:13getting to me here. 100 RAF personnel are being deployed in
1:58:13 > 1:58:16Salisbury to help police and assist with the investigation. Thank you
1:58:16 > 1:58:21for coming in. Newsroom Live coming next, thanks for your company, have
1:58:21 > 1:58:23a great day.