19/03/2018

0:00:05 > 0:00:07Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

0:00:07 > 0:00:11welcome to the programme.

0:00:11 > 0:00:14Our top story today - highly addictive fixed odds betting

0:00:14 > 0:00:17terminals should have their maxium stake reduced from £100

0:00:17 > 0:00:19to £30 or less - that's the verdict of

0:00:19 > 0:00:20the Gambling Commission, who're calling on the

0:00:20 > 0:00:27government to act now.

0:00:27 > 0:00:32And I just went to the counter and I debt, 500. I lost that in the space

0:00:32 > 0:00:38of a few minutes. 1000, lost that. 1000, lost that, another thousand

0:00:38 > 0:00:41until I had no more money in my bank account.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44We'll speak to one man who's lost 250 grand on fixed odds

0:00:44 > 0:00:45betting terminals.

0:00:45 > 0:00:52Also on the programme - A British woman who went to Syria

0:00:52 > 0:00:55to fight against Islamic State has been killed - Anna Campbell died

0:00:55 > 0:00:57in the town of Afrin, which has been the target

0:00:57 > 0:01:00of a Turkish offensive.

0:01:00 > 0:01:07I said, you could be killed. And she said, I know, dad. There's nothing I

0:01:07 > 0:01:10can do to reassure you about that, but I've got to do this.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12We'll hear more from her dad later in the programme.

0:01:12 > 0:01:15And Ant McPartlin has been arrested on suspicion of drink driving

0:01:15 > 0:01:17after his car crashed into two others yesterday.

0:01:17 > 0:01:25We'll bring you the story.

0:01:31 > 0:01:32Hello.

0:01:32 > 0:01:37Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39Throughout the programme the latest breaking news,

0:01:39 > 0:01:41and developing stories - a little later we'll speak

0:01:41 > 0:01:43to residents in Derby who've been protesting against a new asylum

0:01:43 > 0:01:45seeker centre which opened in the last month.

0:01:45 > 0:01:53There are several up and down the country.

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0:02:04 > 0:02:05Our top story today...

0:02:05 > 0:02:07The Gambling Commission has recommended that the maximum stake

0:02:07 > 0:02:13for fixed-odds betting terminals should be reduced from £100

0:02:13 > 0:02:16to £30 pounds or less, or £2 in the case

0:02:16 > 0:02:17of slot machines.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20It says cutting the stake alone won't cure problem gambling and has

0:02:20 > 0:02:22recommended what it calls a "comprehensive package of other

0:02:22 > 0:02:23measures to protect consumers".

0:02:23 > 0:02:25The industry had said a blanket reduction to £2

0:02:25 > 0:02:28would cost thousands of jobs.

0:02:28 > 0:02:36Our correspondent Sean Dilley is here.

0:02:40 > 0:02:44Tell us more about what the commission have said.They are

0:02:44 > 0:02:49concerned that the most vulnerable in society are being taken for a

0:02:49 > 0:02:51ride, not necessarily deliberately, but they are clear that the industry

0:02:51 > 0:02:58hasn't done enough. So whereas at the moment, people can literally

0:02:58 > 0:03:02lose £100 in 20 seconds, again and again, they are talking about a £30

0:03:02 > 0:03:05limit on most fixed odds betting terminals. There are also saying it

0:03:05 > 0:03:10should be as low as £2 on the fruit machines, the old pub style fruit

0:03:10 > 0:03:15machines. When I spoke to the executive director Tim Miller, he

0:03:15 > 0:03:19said it's not just the £30 figure, he was concerned that whichever

0:03:19 > 0:03:22figure you pick will be opposed. It is about a wider Raft of measures

0:03:22 > 0:03:28such as education.Because they say even reducing steaks from £130 or

0:03:28 > 0:03:36less is not enough to help problem gamblers?They said the £30 figure,

0:03:36 > 0:03:40from their research, would make people less disadvantaged. But their

0:03:40 > 0:03:43concern is that people working hard on average wage can't afford to lose

0:03:43 > 0:03:48that.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52We are clear that a steak cut alone would not go far enough. So in

0:03:52 > 0:03:56addition to recommending a cut to £2 on slots, we are suggesting that

0:03:56 > 0:04:02fall roulette-style games, the limit should be reduced to £30 or less. If

0:04:02 > 0:04:07the government decide to go less than that, that would be consistent

0:04:07 > 0:04:11with our advice. We are also proposing that there should be a

0:04:11 > 0:04:15form of track to play so that players themselves can have access

0:04:15 > 0:04:19to good quality data on their player behaviour and how much they have

0:04:19 > 0:04:23lost. And importantly, the gambling companies then have no excuse not to

0:04:23 > 0:04:29spot problem gambling and act on it.

0:04:29 > 0:04:34This has been highly anticipated by the industry. The Association of

0:04:34 > 0:04:39British Insurers makers were arguing that half of bookmaking shops could

0:04:39 > 0:04:42close completely, so they urge caution. There is quite a bit of

0:04:42 > 0:04:46disagreement on figures, with the suggestion that £1.5 billion is the

0:04:46 > 0:04:50true cost of gambling when you consider economic and employment.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53But ultimately, the Gambling Commission tell us that they are not

0:04:53 > 0:04:58even considering the impact on the economy, it's about protecting

0:04:58 > 0:05:00vulnerable consumers.Thank you.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

0:05:03 > 0:05:05of the rest of the day's news.

0:05:05 > 0:05:08Official results from Russia show President Putin has been

0:05:08 > 0:05:10re-elected with more than 76% of the vote.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12He told a victory rally that Russia must maintain unity

0:05:12 > 0:05:15following his landslide win - but CCTV footage from a number

0:05:15 > 0:05:17of polling stations appears to show election officials stuffing boxes

0:05:17 > 0:05:19with ballot papers.

0:05:19 > 0:05:24International chemical weapons experts are due to arrive in the UK

0:05:24 > 0:05:29later today to test the nerve agent used to poison former

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33President Putin says claims his country was behind

0:05:33 > 0:05:35the attack are "nonsense" but Boris Johnson claims Russia has

0:05:35 > 0:05:36been stockpiling Novichok for years.

0:05:36 > 0:05:44Tom Burridge reports.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47More than 80 drivers were stranded overnight on a major road

0:05:47 > 0:05:48in south western England.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50The A30 has just re-opened within the last hour.

0:05:50 > 0:05:54A 64-mile stretch had to be shut for the night after heavy

0:05:54 > 0:05:56snow fell in the area, making many roads impassable.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59Devon and Cornwall Police are urging people not to travel

0:05:59 > 0:06:03until later on this morning.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06The television presenter Ant McPartlin has been arrested

0:06:06 > 0:06:09on suspicion of drink driving.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12Police say they were called to reports of a collision involving

0:06:12 > 0:06:14three cars in south-west London yesterday afternoon.

0:06:14 > 0:06:22A child passenger in one of them was taken to hospital as a precaution.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25In a statement, Scotland Yard said a 42-year-old man was arrested

0:06:25 > 0:06:26at the scene after failing a breathalyser test.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29Cardinal Keith O'Brien, the former leader of

0:06:29 > 0:06:31Scotland's Roman Catholics, has died at the age of 80.

0:06:31 > 0:06:35He was formerly the Catholic Church's most senior cleric

0:06:35 > 0:06:38in Britain, but resigned as Archbishop of St Andrews

0:06:38 > 0:06:39and Edinburgh in 2013 after admitting sexual misconduct.

0:06:39 > 0:06:42He was recently injured in a fall and was being cared

0:06:42 > 0:06:45for at a hospital in Newcastle.

0:06:45 > 0:06:48A British woman has been killed in northern Syria,

0:06:48 > 0:06:50while fighting alongside Kurdish forces.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53It's understood that Anna Campbell - who was 26 and from

0:06:53 > 0:06:57Lewes in East Sussex - died in the town of Afrin,

0:06:57 > 0:07:00which has been the target of a Turkish offensive.

0:07:00 > 0:07:02She travelled to Syria last May.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04Her father has told the BBC she was idealistic and knew

0:07:04 > 0:07:07she was putting her life at risk.

0:07:07 > 0:07:09Our correspondent Emma Vardy reports.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13Anna Campbell was a passionate human rights activist who travelled

0:07:13 > 0:07:16to Syria last May to join the Kurdish women's

0:07:16 > 0:07:19armed group, the YPJ.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22She even dyed her hair so as not to stand out

0:07:22 > 0:07:31among the other fighters.

0:07:31 > 0:07:33Her father, Dirk Campbell, said he could not have

0:07:33 > 0:07:34prevented his daughter

0:07:34 > 0:07:36from travelling to the warzone.

0:07:36 > 0:07:37She was quite adamant about it.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39I said, you know, you could be killed.

0:07:39 > 0:07:40And she said, I know, Dad.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43There's nothing I can do to reassure you about that.

0:07:43 > 0:07:45But I've got to do this, because it's the most

0:07:45 > 0:07:47important thing for me.

0:07:47 > 0:07:55At first, Anna Campbell had been involved in fighting with the Kurds

0:08:02 > 0:08:04against so-called Islamic State in Deir ez-Zor, where IS still

0:08:04 > 0:08:05hold some territory.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08But in January, Turkey began attacking the Kurds along

0:08:08 > 0:08:09the northern border around the town of Afrin.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12It is here that Kurdish commanders say Anna Campbell was killed.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15In a statement, the YPJ said they tried to keep her away

0:08:15 > 0:08:18from the front line, but she had insisted on being part

0:08:18 > 0:08:19of the operation to defend Afrin.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21Since 2015, seven British men have lost their lives.

0:08:21 > 0:08:28Friends of Anna Campbell in Syria told the BBC she was killed

0:08:28 > 0:08:30by Turkish air strikes, the first British woman fighting

0:08:30 > 0:08:38with the Kurds to have died.

0:08:39 > 0:08:43A new accomodation centre to house newly arrived

0:08:43 > 0:08:46asylum seekers in the UK has just opened in Derby.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49Despite opposition from local residents

0:08:49 > 0:08:50over a lack of information,

0:08:50 > 0:08:53the new centre will be able to house up to 200 people

0:08:53 > 0:08:55seeking asylum for 19 days.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58This allows the Home Office time to assess the individuals

0:08:58 > 0:09:02or families and find them suitable housing elsewhere in the country.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06Scientists have announced a significant breakthrough

0:09:06 > 0:09:10in the treatment of multiple sclerosis.

0:09:10 > 0:09:11Results from a decade-long international trial have shown

0:09:11 > 0:09:13a stem cell transplant can halt the disease and improve symptoms.

0:09:13 > 0:09:16The disabling condition affects about 100,000 people in the UK.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18Doctors in Sheffield, who were part of the study,

0:09:18 > 0:09:21say the new treatment is a "game changer" for many patients.

0:09:21 > 0:09:25Residents from several cliff top seaside chalets in Norfolk have

0:09:25 > 0:09:27been told to evacuate their homes due to strong winds.

0:09:27 > 0:09:29Police say six properties in the village of Hemsby

0:09:29 > 0:09:31are at risk of coastal erosion because of the high tide.

0:09:31 > 0:09:39In 2013, tidal storms saw three homes in the village washed away.

0:09:44 > 0:09:48That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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0:09:57 > 0:10:00Let's get some sport with Jessica.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02Things are hotting up in the sport of golf

0:10:02 > 0:10:06with The Masters not far away...

0:10:06 > 0:10:10Yeah, exciting times for the sport, particularly when you consider the

0:10:10 > 0:10:14resurgence of Tiger Woods in recent weeks. And now for British golf

0:10:14 > 0:10:19fans, it looks as though Rory McIlroy is back to his best. Just

0:10:19 > 0:10:22won the Arnold Palmer Invitational tournament, his first tournament win

0:10:22 > 0:10:27for 18 months, and all the more exciting because the Masters, the

0:10:27 > 0:10:30first major of the year, starts in just a couple of weeks. Because Rory

0:10:30 > 0:10:33McIlroy has won this tournament, he is now the favourite to win that

0:10:33 > 0:10:40green jacket. After the tournament, he said "I played a perfect round of

0:10:40 > 0:10:44golf", and you can understand why when you see birdie putts like this.

0:10:44 > 0:10:50He made five birdies in the last six holes to finish on 18 under par.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54That was three shots ahead of the rest, and this is McIlroy's first

0:10:54 > 0:11:00win since September 20 16.All these little barriers that you have to

0:11:00 > 0:11:06overcome, whether it be physical or mental, is huge for my confidence

0:11:06 > 0:11:11going into the next few weeks. I kept saying I didn't need a win

0:11:11 > 0:11:14going into Augusta to feel like I had a chance, I just wanted to see

0:11:14 > 0:11:19signs of good golf and thankfully, I have been able to get both today.

0:11:19 > 0:11:23Coverage of the Masters from Augusta will be live across the BBC from the

0:11:23 > 0:11:305th of April.And we now know who is going to Wembley to compete for the

0:11:30 > 0:11:33FA semi finals.For all four teams involved, it will be there any

0:11:33 > 0:11:37chance for a trophy this season. Manchester United will take on

0:11:37 > 0:11:40Tottenham and when you consider United's limp exit from the

0:11:40 > 0:11:43Champions League recently and them being off the pace in the Premier

0:11:43 > 0:11:47League, this could be the trophy they need for the players and the

0:11:47 > 0:11:50manager Mourinho to answer their critics. Chelsea play Southampton

0:11:50 > 0:11:56and could be the ideal swansong for the blues manager Conde, who if you

0:11:56 > 0:11:58listen to reports in the press, could be leaving Stamford Bridge at

0:11:58 > 0:12:04the end of the season. This is how Chelsea got to the last four. They

0:12:04 > 0:12:09beat Leicester 2-1. The winning goal came from Pedro in extra time.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13Towering header from the smallest player on the pitch. That is a tenth

0:12:13 > 0:12:17FA Cup semifinal now for Chelsea in 18 years. Let's show you Southampton

0:12:17 > 0:12:23did. It was a first good game for Mark Hughes, their new manager,

0:12:23 > 0:12:33winning in his first match in charge. They won 2-0. So that is

0:12:33 > 0:12:35Manchester United against Spurs and Chelsea against Southampton in the

0:12:35 > 0:12:43semifinals of the FA Cup at Wembley. The matches get under way on the

0:12:43 > 0:12:4721st 22nd of April thank you.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49The maximum stake for fixed odds betting terminals should be

0:12:49 > 0:12:52cut to £30 or less - the Gambling Commission has

0:12:52 > 0:12:53recommended this morning.

0:12:53 > 0:12:56At the moment - gamblers playing games like routlette can lose

0:12:56 > 0:12:59up to £100 per spin, and can spin three times a minute -

0:12:59 > 0:13:01which means people can lose thousands of pounds in a relatively

0:13:01 > 0:13:02short space of time.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04The Gambling Commission also want a maximum of £2

0:13:04 > 0:13:07for fixed odds betting terminals, which use slot machines.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10The Government now has to decide whether to accept the Commission's

0:13:10 > 0:13:13advice on the stake limit, or decide to impose a lower figure.

0:13:13 > 0:13:15We've talked about the problems caused by FOBTs a number

0:13:15 > 0:13:23of times on this programme, as Jim Reed reports.

0:13:31 > 0:13:37Fixed odds betting terminals, on the high street, introduced 15 years ago

0:13:37 > 0:13:47and controversial ever since.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53Tony Franklin has been campaigning against the machine for years now.

0:13:53 > 0:13:56I was in that hairdresser's over the road, and I don't know

0:13:56 > 0:13:59what happened, I came out of the hairdressers, I thought, "Oh,

0:13:59 > 0:14:00go on, what's the harm?

0:14:00 > 0:14:02I'll go in and I'll have a go."

0:14:02 > 0:14:03The addiction's always present.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06I fed in what I had in my wallet, which I think was about £90.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09Then I came out, took some money out of the cashpoint,

0:14:09 > 0:14:13and at this point I was totally devastated and just completely

0:14:13 > 0:14:16caught up in the gambling, in a red mist is probably the best

0:14:16 > 0:14:19way to describe it, or a fog, and I just went

0:14:19 > 0:14:24to the counter and I said, you know, 500.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26I lost that in the space of a few minutes.

0:14:26 > 0:14:271000, lost that.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30Another thousand, until I had no more money in my bank account.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32How did you feel after losing that?

0:14:32 > 0:14:38Devastated.

0:14:38 > 0:14:41At this point, the plan was still for my wife and child

0:14:41 > 0:14:43to come and live here in this country with me.

0:14:43 > 0:14:46I'd got a flat set up and everything ready to go.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48But because of that relapse, and because my wife realised

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I was still very much in the gambling, the

0:14:50 > 0:14:58addiction was there.

0:15:00 > 0:15:06To critics this is the dark side of gambling. You could lose £100 per

0:15:06 > 0:15:13spin and you can spin every 20 seconds. In October the government

0:15:13 > 0:15:18said it plans to force bookmakers to cut the state. The question now is

0:15:18 > 0:15:23to watch. A final decision is expected soon. What then are the

0:15:23 > 0:15:28arguments on both sides. Critics of the machines say the case to cut

0:15:28 > 0:15:34right back to £2 per spin is overwhelming. In a letter to the

0:15:34 > 0:15:38Chancellor seen by this programme three MPs say in a single year

0:15:38 > 0:15:44players lost large amounts, more than £1000, on children 30,000

0:15:44 > 0:15:49separate occasions. Former players say the cost to society is huge.To

0:15:49 > 0:15:53allow someone to bed up to £100 every 20 seconds, they are more

0:15:53 > 0:15:59likely to become addict had to gambling. So which the maximum stake

0:15:59 > 0:16:04would reduce the harm.Then there's the case against, the industry says

0:16:04 > 0:16:07that a two downstate would kill off the machines completely, jobs could

0:16:07 > 0:16:12be last and there would be less money for government, local councils

0:16:12 > 0:16:16and the racing industry.With online and casinos, both of which have

0:16:16 > 0:16:21grown over this period, there are similar potential for staking and

0:16:21 > 0:16:25the human interaction you get in a betting shop means that large losses

0:16:25 > 0:16:31are monitored and we can stop them. A £2 stake would also mean it is

0:16:31 > 0:16:35possible to spend more money more quickly on gaming machines in pubs

0:16:35 > 0:16:39and arcades spent in betting shops. Many in the industry said it does

0:16:39 > 0:16:45not make sense. The share price of the largest gaming companies fell in

0:16:45 > 0:16:48January on rumours that the government would back the £2 stake.

0:16:48 > 0:16:56Nothing is final yet. But the Chancellor and the Treasury could be

0:16:56 > 0:17:00worried that it would also damage tax revenues.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03So do the recommendations to cap the limit at 30

0:17:03 > 0:17:04quid go far enough?

0:17:04 > 0:17:07We can speak to Carolyn Harris - Labour MP for Swansea East, Chair

0:17:07 > 0:17:11of the All Party Parliamentary Group on FOBTs, who is one

0:17:11 > 0:17:15of three MPs to back cutting FOBT stakes,

0:17:15 > 0:17:19Tim Miller from the Gambling Commission, Terry White,

0:17:19 > 0:17:25a gambling addict who estimates he lost £250,000 on FOBTs

0:17:25 > 0:17:28- he's in Cardiff this morning, and Andy Margett -

0:17:28 > 0:17:30he lost tens of thousands of pounds gambling online

0:17:30 > 0:17:37and in betting shops - he's in Derby today.

0:17:37 > 0:17:41Tim, can you explain what the report recommends -

0:17:41 > 0:17:45how did the commission decide this?

0:17:45 > 0:17:51It is a big reduction for games like roulette are not as much as

0:17:51 > 0:17:58campaigners wanted.Well to be clear it is £30 or less so people calling

0:17:58 > 0:18:03for £2 need not be disappointed, we have still left that door open. If

0:18:03 > 0:18:05the Secretary of State considers that appropriate it is still

0:18:05 > 0:18:10perfectly consistent. We based our advice on a wide range of evidence.

0:18:10 > 0:18:18We looked at 20 billion different plays. Individual bets. Yes, a huge

0:18:18 > 0:18:21amount of data and we found it did not point to a single individual

0:18:21 > 0:18:25figure as being the magic bullet. What we've said is we need a

0:18:25 > 0:18:33conference a package of measures.So if it did not point to an individual

0:18:33 > 0:18:37figure why have you registered to £30 maximum.Because it showed to

0:18:37 > 0:18:43have significant impact on risk reduction you need to come down to

0:18:43 > 0:18:48at least £30. Other package says that cutting the stake by itself is

0:18:48 > 0:18:51not enough so we recommended going even further by putting in a range

0:18:51 > 0:18:57of other measures.Caroline, how do you react?Initially I was

0:18:57 > 0:19:02disappointed and quite angry but then I have had a chat with Tim and

0:19:02 > 0:19:05I probably am less angry. I just need to know that the government

0:19:05 > 0:19:12will not be persuaded by the argument that £30 is sufficient.

0:19:12 > 0:19:25You're saying £30 now is all right? Well initially when I heard it

0:19:25 > 0:19:27Well initially when I heard it was £30, I said that to advance was

0:19:27 > 0:19:31preferable.The reality is the evidence we looked at did not point

0:19:31 > 0:19:35to any single figure. It is now for the Secretary of State to make this

0:19:35 > 0:19:39decision. That is what the legislation says.It has got to be

0:19:39 > 0:19:47£2. Terry White and Andy, having lost £250,000 on these terminals,

0:19:47 > 0:19:54just explain how that is even possible?It sounds really difficult

0:19:54 > 0:20:02to do put up but if you're losing 1000, £2000 a day, it only takes

0:20:02 > 0:20:09around six months.So how do you then react to this recommendation

0:20:09 > 0:20:14from the Gambling Commission that for games like roulette, the maximum

0:20:14 > 0:20:17stake should be £30 or less. And obviously it is up to the government

0:20:17 > 0:20:20to make the final position. They could choose to pounce as the

0:20:20 > 0:20:26maximum.They could and I hope that they will. I've not had time to look

0:20:26 > 0:20:31at the full report put out today but I have had dialogue with Mr Miller

0:20:31 > 0:20:37and I know Carolyn is also putting - also keen for that to be £2. But I

0:20:37 > 0:20:42think there are many other aspects like the speed of the spin and

0:20:42 > 0:20:45responsibility of the bookmakers to come and have a chat with people

0:20:45 > 0:20:48when clearly they are out of control on the machines. They say they do

0:20:48 > 0:20:52that but from personal experience I can tell you they do not.And how

0:20:52 > 0:21:00would someone in a booking -- in a bookmakers note that you are out of

0:21:00 > 0:21:04control.Something along the lines of a customer losing £500 or perhaps

0:21:04 > 0:21:10swearing, picking the machine, they would need to say hang on a minute,

0:21:10 > 0:21:14you are affecting other people in the shop and you know, really be a

0:21:14 > 0:21:19bit more proactive and hands-on to look after people better.Tim

0:21:19 > 0:21:22Miller, whatever you said about interaction between people who work

0:21:22 > 0:21:27in a bookmakers and someone clearly losing money.Well that is an

0:21:27 > 0:21:30important point, a strong duty on gambling companies to act. But

0:21:30 > 0:21:37they're not. We recommend removing all excuse not to act. That there is

0:21:37 > 0:21:44a strong case to track play. So potentially if someone had an

0:21:44 > 0:21:47individual login, the player then can have high quality data on their

0:21:47 > 0:21:52play but importantly gambling company could spot at an early stage

0:21:52 > 0:21:56the risk of harmful play and act to intervene.Actually while they are

0:21:56 > 0:22:03playing on the machine in the bookmakers.Exactly.We want to

0:22:03 > 0:22:08remove excuses. But will they have time to log on to check on

0:22:08 > 0:22:16individuals in their shop?The reality is there needs to be an

0:22:16 > 0:22:24overwhelming drive to prevent people from harm.How do you react to these

0:22:24 > 0:22:27recommendations from the Gambling Commission customer I think it is

0:22:27 > 0:22:31going after one form of gambling will not work.There are many forms

0:22:31 > 0:22:40of gambling out there got up and any form has the potential for harm.

0:22:42 > 0:22:43form has the potential for harm. Any form of gambling is bad for a

0:22:43 > 0:22:47potential problem gambler. I think they need to be more education and

0:22:47 > 0:22:54treatment services. We are have all been to school and we get taught

0:22:54 > 0:22:59about the dangers of drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, STI 's, but never the

0:22:59 > 0:23:05danger of a potential gambling problem. You hit a keen and you're

0:23:05 > 0:23:12just free to have a gamble. Play the lottery. So I believe funding for

0:23:12 > 0:23:18help and treatment is critical and education as well.Let me read out

0:23:18 > 0:23:23this e-mail from Keith, betting machines are a blight, the odds of

0:23:23 > 0:23:31winning can be fixed electronically. These machines are designed to keep

0:23:31 > 0:23:36you playing with very small wins just to keep you playing.The

0:23:36 > 0:23:40problem with these machines, the machine itself is addictive to most

0:23:40 > 0:23:44problem gamblers, you might have money that they lose Amin becomes

0:23:44 > 0:23:47irrelevant, it is the activity itself of the machine. And they are

0:23:47 > 0:23:54built entirely to be captivating, just like heroin is captivating to

0:23:54 > 0:23:58some. So you will find difficulty. Not in finding people who can use

0:23:58 > 0:24:02the machines to money launder, because the amount of money they

0:24:02 > 0:24:05will get cleaned is phenomenal. But you will have problems finding

0:24:05 > 0:24:10people are personal level who have won any money. And it becomes

0:24:10 > 0:24:14irrelevant, the actual money becomes irrelevant.So maybe you think then

0:24:14 > 0:24:19the recommendations in this report are a missed opportunity?

0:24:19 > 0:24:23Definitely, as long as the government stays fan, and

0:24:23 > 0:24:27unconvinced that this moment that both the secretary of state and

0:24:27 > 0:24:30Minister are resolute and they believe that £2 the answer because

0:24:30 > 0:24:35of the body language if you like and the vibes we're getting. It is

0:24:35 > 0:24:38essential for society, for the individuals, but the high street. It

0:24:38 > 0:24:43is essential that the social consequences of these machines are a

0:24:43 > 0:24:46limited by reducing the stakes to £2.They will be a suspicion that

0:24:46 > 0:24:53you have been got at by the industry customer not at all.There have been

0:24:53 > 0:25:01many arguments about the economic impact of these cuts.That I think

0:25:01 > 0:25:05shops would close and people lose their jobs.In terms of our

0:25:05 > 0:25:09recommendations we have not taken as arguments on board. We have one

0:25:09 > 0:25:14focus and that is taking action to protect consumers.I have one e-mail

0:25:14 > 0:25:19from someone who works in a bookies. It is anonymous and quite long but

0:25:19 > 0:25:23really worth reading. I work for one of the big four betting shops. Shop

0:25:23 > 0:25:27staff are trained to spot trouble gamblers and intervene when

0:25:27 > 0:25:31necessary. I've tried several of these interventions but I've had

0:25:31 > 0:25:36negative responses from customers being told to mind my own business.

0:25:36 > 0:25:40I've offered the option of self exclusion to help the customer as

0:25:40 > 0:25:42well as the industry leaflets but have been left out on several

0:25:42 > 0:25:48occasions by personal safety jeopardise for busily so much that

0:25:48 > 0:25:52the shop staff can do and the rest is the personal responsibility of

0:25:52 > 0:25:56the customer themselves. The reality of those using extolled terminals is

0:25:56 > 0:26:00not what is being portrayed in the media for the his customers are well

0:26:00 > 0:26:05aware of their actions and they shun help. Limiting the bet would just

0:26:05 > 0:26:09mean that the customer would stay at the terminal for longer and lose the

0:26:09 > 0:26:13same amount of money. Gambling addiction is a problem and more

0:26:13 > 0:26:20powers should be given to front line staff to help but I would suggest

0:26:20 > 0:26:28greater powers of exclusion. Personal responsibility of the

0:26:30 > 0:26:37customer is critical. What do you say about this that they would just

0:26:37 > 0:26:40stay at the terminal for longer. That is a risk and one of the

0:26:40 > 0:26:45reasons why we do not point to any individual number. Suggestions that

0:26:45 > 0:26:50at some levels people could be driven to riskier behaviour and that

0:26:50 > 0:26:53is why we recommend this broader package to spot the risks earlier

0:26:53 > 0:27:02on.What do you say, someone saying you're working in a bookies and you

0:27:02 > 0:27:07could be told to mind your business and secondly reducing the state just

0:27:07 > 0:27:11means you stay longer on the terminal.I think they are fair

0:27:11 > 0:27:14points, I have seen people approached by numbers of staff in

0:27:14 > 0:27:20certain shops but it is very random and does not happen as often as it

0:27:20 > 0:27:24should. I think they need to train staff even more now and maybe just

0:27:24 > 0:27:31have one staff member in the shop each day dealing with FOBT issues.

0:27:31 > 0:27:35But unless they have the power to exclude you from a shop you can just

0:27:35 > 0:27:39ignore a member of staff, no matter how well trained they are.Precisely

0:27:39 > 0:27:42and at the end of the day it is the individual, it is their

0:27:42 > 0:27:47responsibility to take control of their gambling. Millions of people

0:27:47 > 0:27:51to gamble responsibly and for fun. I know I have a problem and I cannot

0:27:51 > 0:28:02do that. My light bulb moment, I smashed up my PC after losing £1000

0:28:02 > 0:28:09at poker online, that is not normal behaviour.

0:28:09 > 0:28:13behaviour. I would be in a rage and no one could come over to me and

0:28:13 > 0:28:17tell me to stop. And reducing the steak on one form of gambling will

0:28:17 > 0:28:22not help a problem gambler. If it happens, what happens afterwards to

0:28:22 > 0:28:31the gambling addict if it is reduced to £2.Let's get answered to that

0:28:31 > 0:28:34question. So the steak is reduced and what then happens to the

0:28:34 > 0:28:38gambling addict customer that is a fair point and we should not focus

0:28:38 > 0:28:42on one type of gambling.We have been reviewing online gambling as

0:28:42 > 0:28:47well and we will make proposals on that shortly. Because ultimately

0:28:47 > 0:28:50there is no form of gambling that is totally safe and risk-free. We need

0:28:50 > 0:28:55to make sure we act on the harms that comes from all forms of

0:28:55 > 0:28:58gambling.Let's say the government take up your recommendation and

0:28:58 > 0:29:03reduce the stakes to £2 as campaigners want. The addict is

0:29:03 > 0:29:08still an addict.That is right and one other thing we will say is that

0:29:08 > 0:29:12the industry needs to up their game on the amount of resources they put

0:29:12 > 0:29:16into research, education and training. Because treatment will

0:29:16 > 0:29:20help for many people but at the moment it is very underfunded.Thank

0:29:20 > 0:29:27you all for coming in. And of course we welcome your views and

0:29:27 > 0:29:29experiences.

0:29:29 > 0:29:31Martina Navratilova says that John McEnroe was paid

0:29:31 > 0:29:34at least "10 times more" than she was for their commentating

0:29:34 > 0:29:35roles at Wimbledon.

0:29:35 > 0:29:38The former champion told Panorama that she was shocked when the BBC

0:29:38 > 0:29:42revealed how much its stars earned.

0:29:42 > 0:29:45John McEnroe was named on the list, appearing in the £150,000 to

0:29:45 > 0:29:51£199,999 bracket - Martina Navratilova says she was

0:29:51 > 0:29:58Martina Navratilova says that John McEnroe was paid

0:30:02 > 0:30:04£199,999 bracket - Martina Navratilova says she was

0:30:04 > 0:30:05paid around £15,000.

0:30:05 > 0:30:08It's hard to really compare exactly because some people work

0:30:08 > 0:30:10a little longer days, maybe a few more programmes

0:30:10 > 0:30:13or whatever, but overall it was a shock because John McEnroe

0:30:13 > 0:30:14makes at least £150,000.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16I get about £15,000 for Wimbledon.

0:30:16 > 0:30:19And, unless John McEnroe's doing a whole bunch of stuff

0:30:19 > 0:30:21outside of Wimbledon, he's getting at least ten

0:30:21 > 0:30:24times as much money...

0:30:24 > 0:30:25Ten times?!

0:30:25 > 0:30:28..Than I am for very comparable work.

0:30:28 > 0:30:30So, yeah, at the moment that's what I know.

0:30:30 > 0:30:34So you're seriously telling me that you earn about 10%

0:30:34 > 0:30:35of what John McEnroe earns?

0:30:35 > 0:30:37That's pretty much what it looks like right now,

0:30:37 > 0:30:41to the best of my knowledge, yeah, that's how it shakes out.

0:30:41 > 0:30:43How do you feel about that?

0:30:43 > 0:30:45Not happy, let's just say.

0:30:45 > 0:30:47It's shocking.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50If this happens to me, then...

0:30:50 > 0:30:53You know, for me, it's a part-time job, it's two weeks of my life,

0:30:53 > 0:30:58but for the women that are there full-time,

0:30:58 > 0:31:02maybe the discrepancy is not that large but it adds up over a lifetime

0:31:02 > 0:31:04to an amazing amount of money, so it's extremely unfair,

0:31:04 > 0:31:10and it makes me angry for the other women that I think go through this.

0:31:10 > 0:31:13The BBC might say, well, John McEnroe does more hours

0:31:13 > 0:31:15or he's on air longer?

0:31:15 > 0:31:16Ten times as much?

0:31:16 > 0:31:18I don't think so.

0:31:18 > 0:31:21Do you ever say to the BBC, "Am I earning a comparable amount

0:31:21 > 0:31:23to a man doing a similar job?"

0:31:23 > 0:31:26Absolutely, and we were told, yes, I was getting comparable amounts,

0:31:26 > 0:31:30so we were not told the truth, that's for sure.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33Because it's 50 years now since the Equal Pay Act in Britain.

0:31:33 > 0:31:34Wow.

0:31:34 > 0:31:35Yeah, 50 years since equal pay.

0:31:35 > 0:31:37So it's the law!

0:31:37 > 0:31:39And the BBC is a public corporation.

0:31:39 > 0:31:42I don't want to really rag on the BBC, because I know it goes

0:31:42 > 0:31:45on, I'm sure, in all the other networks, but this one being public,

0:31:45 > 0:31:53you know, they've got to do better.

0:31:54 > 0:32:02The BBC says the two commentators are on different types of contracts

0:32:03 > 0:32:05and that Martina Navratilova appears on air less than John McEnroe.

0:32:05 > 0:32:08And you can see more of that interview in a Panorama special

0:32:08 > 0:32:10tonight at 7.30 on BBC One.

0:32:10 > 0:32:15That's Panorama: Britain's Equal Pay Scandal.

0:32:15 > 0:32:16Still to come:

0:32:16 > 0:32:19We'll be looking into how asylum seekers are housed around

0:32:19 > 0:32:21the country by private companies on multi-million pound

0:32:21 > 0:32:29government contracts.

0:32:32 > 0:32:37And we will look at what Vladimir Putin's election win means.

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Time for the latest news - here's Joanna.

0:32:39 > 0:32:44The BBC News headlines this morning...

0:32:44 > 0:32:47The Gambling Commission has recommended that the maximum stake

0:32:47 > 0:32:51the fixed odds betting terminals should be reduced from £100 to £30,

0:32:51 > 0:32:55or £2 in the case of slot machines. It says cutting the stake alone will

0:32:55 > 0:32:59not cure problem gambling and has recommended what it calls a

0:32:59 > 0:33:03comprehensive package of other measures to protect consumers. The

0:33:03 > 0:33:06industry has the blanket reduction to £2 would cost of jobs.

0:33:06 > 0:33:09Official results from Russia show President Putin has been re-elected

0:33:09 > 0:33:10with more than 76% of the vote.

0:33:10 > 0:33:13He told a victory rally that Russia must maintain unity

0:33:13 > 0:33:15following his landslide win - but CCTV footage from a number

0:33:15 > 0:33:18of polling stations appears to show election officials stuffing boxes

0:33:18 > 0:33:24with ballot papers.

0:33:24 > 0:33:29International chemical weapons experts are due to arrive in the UK

0:33:29 > 0:33:34later today to test the nerve agent used to poison former

0:33:34 > 0:33:37Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

0:33:37 > 0:33:39President Putin says claims his country was behind

0:33:39 > 0:33:42the attack are "nonsense", but Boris Johnson claims Russia has

0:33:42 > 0:33:46been stockpiling Novichok for years.

0:33:46 > 0:33:53Test results could be seen in around two weeks' time.

0:33:56 > 0:34:01The TV presenter Ant McPartlin has been arrested on charges of driving.

0:34:01 > 0:34:04Police were called to the scene yesterday afternoon. A car passenger

0:34:04 > 0:34:08was taken to hospital as a precaution. Scotland Yard said a

0:34:08 > 0:34:1042-year-old man was arrested at the scene after failing a breathalyser

0:34:10 > 0:34:11test.

0:34:11 > 0:34:18That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:34:18 > 0:34:21A viewer is not sympathetic to anyone addicted to gambling. If you

0:34:21 > 0:34:25don't realise you're wasting your money on gambling, drugs or drink,

0:34:25 > 0:34:30you need to grow up. There are too many excuses. People are responsible

0:34:30 > 0:34:34for themselves. You have the choice. It is not responsible to give the

0:34:34 > 0:34:37government or the taxpayer. And Ariadne says you just have to look

0:34:37 > 0:34:43at the areas of betting shops to know that they are taking advantage

0:34:43 > 0:34:45of vulnerable people. Do keep those coming in.

0:34:45 > 0:34:51Here's so coming in.

0:34:51 > 0:34:54Here is some sport. McIlroy wins his first tournament for months at the

0:34:54 > 0:35:00Arnold Palmer international. He sank five birdies in the last six holes,

0:35:00 > 0:35:03including that glorious but to finish on 18 under par three shots

0:35:03 > 0:35:10ahead of the field. Chelsea confirm their place in the FA Cup semifinals

0:35:10 > 0:35:14after a 2- win over Leicester after extra time. They will play

0:35:14 > 0:35:16Southampton in the last four. Manchester United will take on Spurs

0:35:16 > 0:35:21in the other fixture. World number one Roger Federer's winning run has

0:35:21 > 0:35:27come to an end after losing the final at the Indian Wells to Juan

0:35:27 > 0:35:31Martin del Potro. The Argentine is the first player to beat Federer in

0:35:31 > 0:35:3518 matches. And England bowler Stuart Broad tells the BBC that he

0:35:35 > 0:35:38has no plans to retire from international cricket any time soon.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41England get their Test match against New Zealand under way in the early

0:35:41 > 0:35:47hours of Thursday morning. Those are your sports headlines. I will be

0:35:47 > 0:35:50back just after ten.

0:35:50 > 0:35:53Every year, thousands of asylum seekers enter the UK -

0:35:53 > 0:35:58on planes, on the back of lorries, illegally smuggled in...

0:35:58 > 0:36:03When they arrive, most are initially housed in an asylum reception centre

0:36:03 > 0:36:05while the Home Office decides whether their case to stay

0:36:05 > 0:36:07as a refugee in the UK is genuine.

0:36:07 > 0:36:10One such Initial Accomodation Centre which houses over 200 asylum seekers

0:36:10 > 0:36:13has just opened in Derby - despite opposition

0:36:13 > 0:36:17from local residents.

0:36:17 > 0:36:24Our reporter Sean Clare has this report.

0:36:24 > 0:36:27Just over 26,000 people arrived in the UK seeking asylum last year,

0:36:27 > 0:36:29many needing somewhere to live.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32Most people accept they have to be housed somewhere,

0:36:32 > 0:36:35but who wants them arriving at the end of their street?

0:36:35 > 0:36:38By the way, you're having 240 asylum seekers on your doorstep and,

0:36:38 > 0:36:43guess what, you can't do anything about it.

0:36:43 > 0:36:46Three companies are responsible for housing them,

0:36:46 > 0:36:47contracts worth millions.

0:36:47 > 0:36:54In recent years, security firm G4S have housed more than anyone else.

0:36:54 > 0:36:57And with a national housing crisis, the companies seek out the cheapest

0:36:57 > 0:36:59homes in the most deprived parts of the country.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02The idea was to relieve pressure on the south-east of England,

0:37:02 > 0:37:05but is the system working as it should for those already here?

0:37:05 > 0:37:07We haven't got enough for ourselves, let alone having

0:37:07 > 0:37:08other people coming in.

0:37:08 > 0:37:12..or for those hoping to make the UK their home?

0:37:12 > 0:37:15They give the accommodation where no-one else wants to live,

0:37:15 > 0:37:16and life is very difficult.

0:37:16 > 0:37:18Crime is very high.

0:37:18 > 0:37:26Prostitution, addiction.

0:37:28 > 0:37:31Here in Derby, the student halls of residence has just been turned

0:37:31 > 0:37:35into accommodation for more than 200 asylum seekers.

0:37:35 > 0:37:38They're supposed to spend just three weeks here before being moved

0:37:38 > 0:37:41to a longer-term home.

0:37:41 > 0:37:44Derby is a multicultural city and is already home to asylum

0:37:44 > 0:37:47seekers and refugees, but local residents have been

0:37:47 > 0:37:49questioning whether this is an appropriate location for such

0:37:49 > 0:37:51a transient, vulnerable community.

0:37:51 > 0:37:55Fantastic area, very close-knit community.

0:37:55 > 0:37:59One of those areas where everybody looks out for everybody.

0:37:59 > 0:38:02Ajit Atwal, who used to represent the area on the local council,

0:38:02 > 0:38:04opposed the plan to convert the student halls from the start.

0:38:04 > 0:38:07We don't know what's in there at the moment.

0:38:07 > 0:38:09G4S are very quiet and very...

0:38:09 > 0:38:11take a back-seat when it comes to answering any questions.

0:38:11 > 0:38:13People round here need to know, they should be answerable

0:38:13 > 0:38:16to the people of this area because, at the end of the day,

0:38:16 > 0:38:19they were here a lot longer than what these people were.

0:38:19 > 0:38:22The centre holds 225 people, and G4S expect it to fill up this month.

0:38:22 > 0:38:25It's almost full now, and there have been no reported problems.

0:38:25 > 0:38:26But residents are still worried.

0:38:26 > 0:38:29Is there a way that, if G4S had communicated differently,

0:38:29 > 0:38:31you could see the system working in this area?

0:38:31 > 0:38:36It could have done, yeah.

0:38:36 > 0:38:39They should have come out and spoke to residents properly instead

0:38:39 > 0:38:41of just inviting people to a council meeting and saying,

0:38:41 > 0:38:43"This is what we've put in place."

0:38:43 > 0:38:45They could have sent leaflets, they could've knocked

0:38:45 > 0:38:46on people's doors.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49They're a big organisation, it's not like they're

0:38:49 > 0:38:49short of a few quid.

0:38:49 > 0:38:52They should consult people and give them that reassurance that,

0:38:52 > 0:38:55you know what, we're here to work with you, any concerns you've got,

0:38:55 > 0:38:58come to us directly so we can iron those concerns out and you can get

0:38:58 > 0:39:00on with life and the residents, the refugees here

0:39:00 > 0:39:02can get on with life.

0:39:02 > 0:39:04While hundreds of people signed a petition against the centre,

0:39:04 > 0:39:06G4S say they consulted with local residents, communicated

0:39:06 > 0:39:08through local press, and will continue their engagement

0:39:08 > 0:39:09every three months.

0:39:09 > 0:39:11But in this cafe just across the road,

0:39:11 > 0:39:16the anger at G4S is obvious.

0:39:16 > 0:39:20When you go to the shop, you don't feel in fear at the minute.

0:39:20 > 0:39:22The owner moved house before the centre even opened

0:39:22 > 0:39:25because of his fears about what it would mean for the area.

0:39:25 > 0:39:27Mark Harris says he's worried about his property and his family.

0:39:27 > 0:39:28I don't want this.

0:39:28 > 0:39:31I haven't signed up for this, I don't want this.

0:39:31 > 0:39:34You're lucky, you moved.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37If I could have moved, I would have been out

0:39:37 > 0:39:38of here straight away.

0:39:38 > 0:39:41I wouldn't have batted an eyelid about it, I'd have been gone,

0:39:41 > 0:39:42because it's not my cup of tea.

0:39:42 > 0:39:44I wish they'd given us more information before

0:39:44 > 0:39:45everyone panicked.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48The information should have been put out there so people like me,

0:39:48 > 0:39:50people like yourself, everyone on Drury Lane would have

0:39:50 > 0:39:56had a better educated response.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58I picked this area for what reason I wanted.

0:39:58 > 0:40:00Your future.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03It's close to town, my future, it's everything it provides to me.

0:40:03 > 0:40:07Then one day I get told, out of the blue, nowt to do with me,

0:40:07 > 0:40:10"Oh, by the way, you're having 240 asylum seekers on your doorstep and,

0:40:10 > 0:40:12guess what, you can't do anything about it."

0:40:12 > 0:40:15It's like the next-door neighbour, she owns her house.

0:40:15 > 0:40:19Let's say she's going to sell her property in two months' time,

0:40:19 > 0:40:23somebody comes round and views the area, there's asylum seekers,

0:40:23 > 0:40:26a block on the corner, that house has got loads more

0:40:26 > 0:40:30chances of not selling.

0:40:30 > 0:40:33If I walk down the road and there were ten asylum

0:40:33 > 0:40:34seekers/refugees stood out there, I'm crossing that road.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36I ain't walking past them for anybody.

0:40:36 > 0:40:39I spoke to G4S and said, "Who's in charge?

0:40:39 > 0:40:41If something goes wrong, my house gets broken into,

0:40:41 > 0:40:43my property gets stolen, I get beaten up or anything

0:40:43 > 0:40:45goes wrong, who...?"

0:40:45 > 0:40:47He were like, "Well, we're not in charge,

0:40:47 > 0:40:51we're just looking after it."

0:40:51 > 0:40:57The only question I haven't had a realistic answer to is,

0:40:57 > 0:41:00can you prove to us that these aren't soldiers?

0:41:00 > 0:41:06That these people aren't killers or rapists?

0:41:06 > 0:41:09Can you just tell us that they've come from a blown-up town or city

0:41:09 > 0:41:12where their houses have gone and they have nowhere to live?

0:41:12 > 0:41:14I feel sorry for them, it's not their fault...

0:41:14 > 0:41:16So work with them.

0:41:16 > 0:41:19Yeah, I am working with them and my point of working with them is,

0:41:19 > 0:41:24I didn't want them living on my doorstep.

0:41:24 > 0:41:27We have an hour's English class on a Tuesday, one on a Thursday.

0:41:27 > 0:41:30A few minutes down the road is Janet Fuller who, for years,

0:41:30 > 0:41:32has been managing an advice centre for Derby's refugees

0:41:32 > 0:41:33and asylum seekers.

0:41:33 > 0:41:36We've been hearing this morning from somebody who was adamant

0:41:36 > 0:41:38that he doesn't know who the asylum seekers are, doesn't know

0:41:38 > 0:41:42where they've come from, he doesn't know what they might be

0:41:42 > 0:41:45doing, and as soon as he can move out of that area, he's going to go.

0:41:45 > 0:41:49I can absolutely understand why residents would be concerned,

0:41:49 > 0:41:52because if you suddenly get accommodation housing more than 200

0:41:52 > 0:41:54people right on your doorstep, whoever those 200 or more people

0:41:54 > 0:41:58are, it's a difficult situation.

0:41:58 > 0:42:01There are always going to be fears about terrorism in this situation.

0:42:01 > 0:42:04The vast majority of people we see here have stood up to terrorism,

0:42:04 > 0:42:07or have been fleeing from terrorism and want to do something

0:42:07 > 0:42:08to counteract that.

0:42:08 > 0:42:13They want to have a positive influence on this society

0:42:13 > 0:42:19and they want to contribute.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22If the Home Office decides those seeking asylum

0:42:22 > 0:42:25are destitute and need housing, after three weeks they are supposed

0:42:25 > 0:42:27to be rehoused in parts of the country with a supply

0:42:27 > 0:42:29of cheap longer-term accommodation.

0:42:29 > 0:42:32So how does it feel to be sent somewhere where nothing

0:42:32 > 0:42:34and no-one is familiar?

0:42:34 > 0:42:35Somewhere with social problems and already-stretched services,

0:42:35 > 0:42:38and somewhere where you can find yourself at the sharp end

0:42:38 > 0:42:40of resentment and fear?

0:42:40 > 0:42:42It looks like you're not welcome.

0:42:42 > 0:42:43They're not friendly.

0:42:43 > 0:42:45No-one will come to help you because they don't

0:42:45 > 0:42:49know who's that person.

0:42:49 > 0:42:53Even though there is a community around you, you are still alone.

0:42:53 > 0:42:55We've protected the identity of this asylum seeker,

0:42:55 > 0:42:59because she fears reprisals from G4S for speaking out.

0:42:59 > 0:43:01How appropriate is your accommodation, and what are some

0:43:01 > 0:43:06of the problems with the facilities in there?

0:43:06 > 0:43:08Usually the G4S people, they give the accommodation

0:43:08 > 0:43:15where no-one else wants to live, and life is very difficult.

0:43:15 > 0:43:20Crime is very high, prostitution, addiction.

0:43:20 > 0:43:24They don't contact us, they don't reply to our problems,

0:43:24 > 0:43:29they don't solve our problems, they don't return our phone calls.

0:43:29 > 0:43:32They think we're just like slaves.

0:43:32 > 0:43:37That, you know, whatever they give us, we will accept.

0:43:37 > 0:43:40What would you say, then, to those who say that the more

0:43:40 > 0:43:42comfortable the system is, the better the system is,

0:43:42 > 0:43:50it might encourage more people to come to Britain?

0:43:50 > 0:43:53Some people, they come by boat, some people, they come in a truck,

0:43:53 > 0:43:56some people are living a happy life with all their luxuries,

0:43:56 > 0:44:03but because of bad luck or somehow they are involved with the system

0:44:04 > 0:44:06they go through all this stress, it makes them like, you know,

0:44:06 > 0:44:07worse than animals.

0:44:07 > 0:44:14Jen, not her real name, used to work at a G4S call centre.

0:44:14 > 0:44:16I worked for the G4S contract providing accommodation to asylum

0:44:16 > 0:44:19seekers in the Midlands and East of England and Yorkshire

0:44:19 > 0:44:25and Humberside.

0:44:25 > 0:44:28What effect did working for G4S have on you and your attitude

0:44:28 > 0:44:31to asylum and immigration?

0:44:31 > 0:44:34The longer I worked there, and the attitude of management

0:44:34 > 0:44:36and the way that people were just sort of treated more

0:44:36 > 0:44:39like a commodity, you know, I wanted to help people

0:44:39 > 0:44:44when I was there because obviously I started working there,

0:44:44 > 0:44:47and you get to know people's situations and people's stories,

0:44:47 > 0:44:50and obviously most people would want to do good

0:44:50 > 0:44:51in that situation.

0:44:51 > 0:44:54But you can't.

0:44:54 > 0:44:57I'm not saying that all the staff are bad and that a member of staff

0:44:57 > 0:45:00has never done a nice thing for somebody, but it's

0:45:00 > 0:45:01not encouraged.

0:45:01 > 0:45:04What kind of things did you hear or see G4S staff doing

0:45:04 > 0:45:05when you worked there?

0:45:05 > 0:45:11I've heard a senior person on that contract say that if an asylum

0:45:11 > 0:45:18seeker has that got credit to call, then don't call them back.

0:45:18 > 0:45:21seeker hasn't got credit to call, then don't call them back.

0:45:21 > 0:45:22That's their problem.

0:45:22 > 0:45:23Why are we paying for an interpreter?

0:45:23 > 0:45:24Why are we doing this?

0:45:24 > 0:45:26That's the kind of attitude that we've got.

0:45:26 > 0:45:29There was a woman I used to work with, she'd pretend

0:45:29 > 0:45:31that she couldn't understand somebody or that she couldn't

0:45:31 > 0:45:37hear somebody and put the phone down on them.

0:45:37 > 0:45:40That colleagues said to me, when she used to talk to people

0:45:40 > 0:45:44like absolute dirt and I heard, and I sort of looked at her one

0:45:44 > 0:45:46day and she just said, "Don't look at me like I've just

0:45:46 > 0:45:47stamped on a baby."

0:45:47 > 0:45:49They were her actual words.

0:45:49 > 0:45:50They just don't care.

0:45:50 > 0:45:51They just don't care.

0:45:51 > 0:45:53In a statement, G4S told us their staff are expected

0:45:53 > 0:45:56to behave with integrity, care and respect, and that action is

0:45:56 > 0:45:57taken against those who fall short.

0:45:57 > 0:46:00Two employees, they say, have been dismissed in the last four years.

0:46:00 > 0:46:03They said asylum seekers are either asked to use a freephone helpline

0:46:03 > 0:46:06number or that G4S staff would call them back if they don't have credit.

0:46:06 > 0:46:09The company said there is no instruction to not call

0:46:09 > 0:46:12asylum seekers back.

0:46:12 > 0:46:15Asylum seekers like this one are sent to parts of the country

0:46:15 > 0:46:17where the local council has said they will take them.

0:46:17 > 0:46:20But in places like Loftus, a small, isolated town

0:46:20 > 0:46:23on the north-east coast of England, the council's decision is not always

0:46:23 > 0:46:28backed up by the local people.

0:46:28 > 0:46:30It's one of the least diverse parts of the country,

0:46:30 > 0:46:33and the lack of local services here is a common complaint.

0:46:33 > 0:46:35This is my shop here.

0:46:35 > 0:46:38I've been here for just over, well, I've been in Loftus

0:46:38 > 0:46:39business for 27 years.

0:46:39 > 0:46:42When we heard the asylum seekers were coming to Loftus,

0:46:42 > 0:46:44we were told that this was the building that they were

0:46:44 > 0:46:47going to be housed in.

0:46:47 > 0:46:50It only has one entrance to the building.

0:46:50 > 0:46:52It is above a pizza shop.

0:46:52 > 0:46:58I think the children would have just hounded them.

0:46:58 > 0:47:01The children, at this time of night, now, would have been gathering

0:47:01 > 0:47:03outside the pizza shop and it would have just escalated

0:47:03 > 0:47:06after they'd been drinking.

0:47:06 > 0:47:10What do you say to those people that say, they'd probably come from civil

0:47:10 > 0:47:12war in Syria where they've seen a bit worse than a pizza

0:47:12 > 0:47:14shop and a few kids?

0:47:14 > 0:47:16But they shouldn't be victimised when they come to another country.

0:47:16 > 0:47:19We don't want them to come here and think that this

0:47:19 > 0:47:20is what England is like.

0:47:20 > 0:47:22It's not like that.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25But the way G4S and the council did it, it was just,

0:47:25 > 0:47:28it just wasn't right, it wasn't fair to make us

0:47:28 > 0:47:32look as though we're horrible, and we're not.

0:47:32 > 0:47:33So you're not racists?

0:47:33 > 0:47:37Not at all.

0:47:37 > 0:47:39One year on, ask people at this meeting of community leaders,

0:47:39 > 0:47:41and they're clear they made the right choice

0:47:41 > 0:47:43in blocking the plan.

0:47:43 > 0:47:48My friend and myself saw a gentleman going into a house along West Road

0:47:48 > 0:47:56and asked them what they were doing and they said, oh, they're G4S,

0:47:56 > 0:47:59they were going to, they were doing safety checks because immigrants

0:47:59 > 0:48:01were coming in.

0:48:01 > 0:48:03Nobody knew what anybody was doing.

0:48:03 > 0:48:07G4S arrived, the population here didn't know anything about it.

0:48:07 > 0:48:10We all found little snippets about what was going on.

0:48:10 > 0:48:13I think it was widely accepted that we just do not

0:48:13 > 0:48:15have the infrastructure for our own people,

0:48:15 > 0:48:16let alone, let alone...

0:48:16 > 0:48:19Exactly.

0:48:19 > 0:48:21They would have been targeted.

0:48:21 > 0:48:24The residents are so deprived at this present time that anybody

0:48:24 > 0:48:28getting a hand-out they think should come to them rather

0:48:28 > 0:48:30than somebody from...

0:48:30 > 0:48:34It must be awful for somebody who can't afford a fridge to see

0:48:34 > 0:48:37a new fridge going to one of these multiple occupancy things, you know.

0:48:37 > 0:48:39And I think we just touched on something else there,

0:48:39 > 0:48:44that we have no police, we have no police presence at all.

0:48:44 > 0:48:48In the past, Loftus has welcomed immigrants from the likes of Bosnia,

0:48:48 > 0:48:52we feel as though we are that far down the pecking order

0:48:52 > 0:48:54when it comes to anything, volunteers are running that much

0:48:54 > 0:48:57services now in this town, in this area, it would be

0:48:57 > 0:49:00wrong to put more things on their shoulders so that they were

0:49:00 > 0:49:03doing all the things that the councils and the Government

0:49:03 > 0:49:05should be doing.

0:49:05 > 0:49:09The multi-billion pound Government contract to provide accommodation

0:49:09 > 0:49:13to asylum seekers for the next ten years is currently out to tender,

0:49:13 > 0:49:15and G4S, the company which houses more new arrivals that any other,

0:49:15 > 0:49:19is hopeful of getting the green light.

0:49:19 > 0:49:21But here in Sheffield, campaigners like John Grayson,

0:49:21 > 0:49:26an expert on asylum housing and long-time critic of G4S,

0:49:26 > 0:49:29say complaints about the company make them unfit to do the job.

0:49:29 > 0:49:34A good minority of the housing, 30% at least, is appalling.

0:49:34 > 0:49:39Atrocious conditions, and it's been like that since 2012

0:49:39 > 0:49:42when they took over the contract.

0:49:42 > 0:49:45Hasn't got any better, I'm still coming across houses

0:49:45 > 0:49:49with rats, with terrible kind of damp, bedbugs is very

0:49:49 > 0:49:54common in their housing.

0:49:54 > 0:49:56They dumped this disabled asylum seeker in a house

0:49:56 > 0:50:00with an asbestos notice on it, where a ceiling had collapsed.

0:50:00 > 0:50:03You know, their carers wouldn't go in because of

0:50:03 > 0:50:07that, quite right, too.

0:50:07 > 0:50:09Only in November a child with cancer, lung cancer,

0:50:09 > 0:50:12was put in a house where there were rats, and they knew there were

0:50:12 > 0:50:15rats when they put her in there.

0:50:15 > 0:50:18There is a new ten-year £4 billion contract out to tender at the moment

0:50:18 > 0:50:20to house asylum seekers.

0:50:20 > 0:50:23Should G4S get that contract?

0:50:23 > 0:50:26No, definitely not, and I think the record shows that.

0:50:26 > 0:50:32Four Parliamentary committees have said that they shouldn't actually be

0:50:32 > 0:50:34housing asylum seekers because of their atrocious

0:50:34 > 0:50:36conditions, etc.

0:50:36 > 0:50:41We think there could be legal action to stop them.

0:50:41 > 0:50:43Is this a political point you're making?

0:50:43 > 0:50:46Someone's got to house these people, someone's got to get the contract.

0:50:46 > 0:50:49We're only talking about 47,000 people across the UK

0:50:49 > 0:50:51in asylum housing.

0:50:51 > 0:50:53It's not an amazing number.

0:50:53 > 0:50:57You'd have thought the housing association sector, for instance,

0:50:57 > 0:50:59would be an appropriate kind of landlord, and I'm sure

0:50:59 > 0:51:02the housing association sector would be quite interested in getting

0:51:02 > 0:51:06that kind of public money to house asylum seekers.

0:51:06 > 0:51:09G4S said the rats at the house in Sheffield were coming from next

0:51:09 > 0:51:10door, not one of theirs.

0:51:10 > 0:51:14They said the family were moved when they were told about the state

0:51:14 > 0:51:17of the child's health, and they say no asbestos was found

0:51:17 > 0:51:18in the other property.

0:51:18 > 0:51:21With companies currently vying for these accommodation contracts,

0:51:21 > 0:51:24MPs have said the voices of those living in these houses

0:51:24 > 0:51:25should be heard.

0:51:25 > 0:51:33Many existing local residents said they want their voices heard, too.

0:51:39 > 0:51:44Phil says people talking about asylum seekers like that, I do not

0:51:44 > 0:51:49understand them. Their lives are hard enough without that attitude.

0:51:49 > 0:51:54And Roxy says this section of the programme is so depressing. Can you

0:51:54 > 0:52:01prove that these asylum seekers are not rapists, can you prove that

0:52:01 > 0:52:03locals are not.

0:52:03 > 0:52:07G4S did not want to be interviewed about the claims in Sean's film.

0:52:07 > 0:52:09But in a statement they told us: "all G4S properties are subject

0:52:09 > 0:52:12to inspections to ensure they meet the standards set

0:52:12 > 0:52:13by the Home Office.

0:52:13 > 0:52:15There are over 4,000 inspections conducted every month

0:52:15 > 0:52:17by G4S and the Home Office and Local Authorities

0:52:17 > 0:52:19also conduct random, no-notice inspections.

0:52:19 > 0:52:21We always take complaints about the accommodation

0:52:21 > 0:52:23we provide very seriously.

0:52:23 > 0:52:26Asylum seekers access our free 24/7 service centre by telephone in large

0:52:26 > 0:52:28numbers to report problems, in some months we receive

0:52:28 > 0:52:31over 4,000 calls.

0:52:31 > 0:52:34This demonstrates a service which is working well and asylum

0:52:34 > 0:52:42seekers are comfortable and willing to engage, reporting issues."

0:52:45 > 0:52:50Well it has been indicated that the EU will support the UK in response

0:52:50 > 0:52:53to the nerve agent being used in Salisbury.

0:52:53 > 0:52:55Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, says it's 'nonsense' to suggest that

0:52:55 > 0:52:57Russia poisoned the former double agent, Sergei Skripal,

0:52:57 > 0:52:58and his daughter in Salisbury.

0:52:58 > 0:53:01Speaking after winning a fourth term in office last night,

0:53:01 > 0:53:03Mr Putin said it was 'unimaginable' that Russia would do

0:53:03 > 0:53:06such a thing ahead of the election and the football

0:53:06 > 0:53:07World Cup this summer.

0:53:07 > 0:53:09Vladimir Putin was re-elected as Russian president

0:53:09 > 0:53:11with an increased - 76% - share of the vote

0:53:11 > 0:53:13and will remain in office for another six years.

0:53:13 > 0:53:17TRANSLATION: In relation to the tragedy you

0:53:17 > 0:53:20mention I learnt about it from the media and the first thing that came

0:53:20 > 0:53:24into my mind is that if it was a military operation people would have

0:53:24 > 0:53:29died straightaway. This is the number one. Secondly Russia does not

0:53:29 > 0:53:35have those weapons. Russia has demolished all of its chemical

0:53:35 > 0:53:43weapons under the supervision, international supervision. Some of

0:53:43 > 0:53:49our partners have not yet done that. Well he remains in office for

0:53:49 > 0:53:51another six years.

0:53:51 > 0:53:53That means the 65-year-old has been either Russian president or prime

0:53:53 > 0:53:54minister for 24 years.

0:53:54 > 0:53:57Despite his time in office - very little is actually known about him.

0:53:57 > 0:54:03Here's the BBC's Russian translator Pavel Koklachev with details.

0:54:03 > 0:54:05Vladimir Putin.

0:54:05 > 0:54:08Here are some facts you didn't know about Russia's president.

0:54:08 > 0:54:10First, he's a former spy.

0:54:10 > 0:54:13Who worked in East Germany for the KGB.

0:54:13 > 0:54:16So he can reportedly speak German and English.

0:54:16 > 0:54:20But in public he only speaks Russian.

0:54:20 > 0:54:24Being a former spy, his life is shrouded in a lot of mystery.

0:54:24 > 0:54:29So we cannot be absolutely sure about what is fact and what is not.

0:54:29 > 0:54:32But it seems sure that he is a father to two

0:54:32 > 0:54:36daughters although nothing is known about them.

0:54:36 > 0:54:39No photographs of them exist and it is not known

0:54:39 > 0:54:46whether they even live in Russia.

0:54:46 > 0:54:48It is reported he is divorced from his wife

0:54:48 > 0:54:49in 2014.

0:54:49 > 0:54:56We know her name, but not much else is known about her.

0:54:56 > 0:54:58For the president of a country that helped invent vodka,

0:54:58 > 0:54:59Putin is reportedly nearly teetotal.

0:54:59 > 0:55:02It is not known if this is fact.

0:55:02 > 0:55:05But the only time he has ever been seen holding a drink

0:55:05 > 0:55:07is on official occasions.

0:55:07 > 0:55:10Speaking of drinking and eating, everything that Putin eats has

0:55:10 > 0:55:13to have been cleared by the Kremlin.

0:55:13 > 0:55:16According to a report in 2014, the security around Putin

0:55:16 > 0:55:19is so tight that when he travels to foreign countries

0:55:19 > 0:55:23all the food and drink, even the bed sheets,

0:55:23 > 0:55:25are flown in from Russia.

0:55:25 > 0:55:32For security reasons it is reported he does not use much technology.

0:55:32 > 0:55:35According to a Newsweek magazine profile he rarely uses the internet.

0:55:35 > 0:55:38Putin likes to portray himself as a tough guy.

0:55:38 > 0:55:43As such he has only ever once shown emotion in public.

0:55:43 > 0:55:48He cried at the funeral of the man who gave him his political break.

0:55:48 > 0:55:54His tough guy image is enhanced with his black belt in judo.

0:55:54 > 0:55:58And playing ice hockey and riding bareback on horseback.

0:55:58 > 0:56:01This is when Putin is reported to be most happy although again,

0:56:01 > 0:56:03it is not known whether this is a fact.

0:56:03 > 0:56:11Or just information supplied by the Kremlin.

0:56:13 > 0:56:16Let's speak to Dmitry Linnik, a former Russian journalist,

0:56:16 > 0:56:21who worked for the Voice of Russia radio station, and now works

0:56:21 > 0:56:24at media brand Sputnik, Professor Margot Light,

0:56:24 > 0:56:27an expert on Russian foreign policy.

0:56:27 > 0:56:29And MP Stephen Kinnock, a Labour backbencher,

0:56:29 > 0:56:32who has said Britain should push to strip Russia of the World Cup

0:56:32 > 0:56:34and have it held next year in another country.

0:56:34 > 0:56:37He was forced to leave St Petersburg when he worked

0:56:37 > 0:56:43for the British Council a decade ago...

0:56:43 > 0:56:49Russian people will support Putin no matter what he does but you might I

0:56:49 > 0:56:52guess qualified support is quite significant, yes.It would be fair

0:56:52 > 0:56:56to say there is a lot of dissatisfaction a lot of fatigue

0:56:56 > 0:57:03perhaps. A lot of anger and opposition. But when the chips are

0:57:03 > 0:57:11down yes, the 76% is an increase on 2012.And that is partly because a

0:57:11 > 0:57:15spokesman for the campaign said because of what happened as they put

0:57:15 > 0:57:18it, thanks largely to the UK Gaza what happened two weeks ago in

0:57:18 > 0:57:23Salisbury.I do not think it could have played a major role but maybe

0:57:23 > 0:57:28you know a few percentage points, yes.Stephen Kinnock, what is your

0:57:28 > 0:57:35reaction to the election and claims of vote rigging?I think democracy

0:57:35 > 0:57:38is not just about what happens at the ballot box, it is the whole

0:57:38 > 0:57:42environment in which the election takes place, some of the political

0:57:42 > 0:57:45debate takes place. The fact is the Russian state basically controls the

0:57:45 > 0:57:52television media and newspaper reading in Russia is relatively low

0:57:52 > 0:57:57levels. So the television plays a massive role. And it is in essence a

0:57:57 > 0:58:02propaganda vehicle for Mr Putin. So not surprising he has tremendous

0:58:02 > 0:58:05support, I think also worth recognising there are still a lot of

0:58:05 > 0:58:09support frames of the Russian people feel he has delivered security and

0:58:09 > 0:58:12stability and a certain amount of economic growth compared to the

0:58:12 > 0:58:21total chaos of the Yeltsin years. So I think broadly is the Russian

0:58:21 > 0:58:23people certainly outside of Moscow and St Petersburg support Putin. But

0:58:23 > 0:58:29I also think there is not proper there. One of the strongest

0:58:29 > 0:58:35candidate in opposition has been constantly repressed and suppressed.

0:58:35 > 0:58:41Of course we have the assassination as well of a political rival soap

0:58:41 > 0:58:45not really what we would describe as a free and fair situation for the is

0:58:45 > 0:58:52that fair? Russia is a tough place, a rough place, much more so than the

0:58:52 > 0:58:57UK or any other established democracy. But it is a much more

0:58:57 > 0:59:02normal country then people often tend to believe in the West, and in

0:59:02 > 0:59:08the UK. And perhaps primarily in the UK because the UK has been at the

0:59:08 > 0:59:14forefront of this massive sustained could probably call it media war on

0:59:14 > 0:59:21Putin and Russia.And media war on Hughton and Russia, Stephen Kinnock?

0:59:21 > 0:59:24I spent three years living and working in Russia and it has a

0:59:24 > 0:59:28special place in my heart, I think it is a wonderful country and I

0:59:28 > 0:59:32agree it is also a tough country for that amazing people, culture,

0:59:32 > 0:59:37literature, history. A truly fascinating place. But I'm afraid

0:59:37 > 0:59:42the Russian people for centuries have been let down by their leaders.

0:59:42 > 0:59:48There is a tendency to authoritarianism, to despotic

0:59:48 > 0:59:53tendencies, to the state using fear to suppress its people. And those

0:59:53 > 0:59:58are just the facts of the matter. Clearly Russia has changed

0:59:58 > 1:00:01enormously since the collapse of the Soviet Union. I do not think that we

1:00:01 > 1:00:06are in a new Cold War, I think what we have far more is a very dangerous

1:00:06 > 1:00:12coalition of the security state and the Mafia that are running the show.

1:00:12 > 1:00:16And are not always sure whether Mr Putin is truly in control of what is

1:00:16 > 1:00:20happening in the Kremlin or whether he's just a front man for all kinds

1:00:20 > 1:00:25of, the deep state around him. Nobody really knows what is going on

1:00:25 > 1:00:28and that is part of the difficulty with this because of course that

1:00:28 > 1:00:34lack of transparency is what reads this constant sense that there is a

1:00:34 > 1:00:41hostile posture in Russia towards the West.

1:00:44 > 1:00:48Dmitri?I agree with a lot of the. There is a tradition that is

1:00:48 > 1:01:00difficult. But again, there is such a vast gap between the oppression of

1:01:00 > 1:01:03Stalin and Zara 's and Russia today.

1:01:03 > 1:01:06These are two completely different countries that we need to speak

1:01:06 > 1:01:15about and be aware of that. So I give qualified support what MP

1:01:15 > 1:01:19Kinnock has just said.Professor, when you hear President Putin saying

1:01:19 > 1:01:23Russia has destroyed all its chemical weapons, it's nonsense to

1:01:23 > 1:01:26implicate his government in the attack on Salisbury on the 4th of

1:01:26 > 1:01:32March, how do you respond?It's true the Organisation for the Prohibition

1:01:32 > 1:01:36of Chemical Weapons certified that Russia no longer had any chemical

1:01:36 > 1:01:40weapons. We will have to wait to see what the organisation now says about

1:01:40 > 1:01:46the samples it is taking from Salisbury before we come to any firm

1:01:46 > 1:01:50conclusions. You must admit that when you think of the reputational

1:01:50 > 1:01:57damage to Russia in the last two weeks, it would really be an

1:01:57 > 1:02:03extraordinarily poor sense of politics that would explain any kind

1:02:03 > 1:02:10of motivation for this poisoning being accomplished by the President

1:02:10 > 1:02:15ordered by the President.Sorry, explain what you mean?Well, what

1:02:15 > 1:02:19has happened in the last two weeks has hardly done Russia's reputation

1:02:19 > 1:02:28any good. It is extraordinary to think that the president would order

1:02:28 > 1:02:32poisoning by a chemical weapons that can easily be identified as being

1:02:32 > 1:02:40produced by Russia. It is so hard to see the motivation.I am going to

1:02:40 > 1:02:46leave it there. Thank you, all of you. Use of sport are on the way in

1:02:46 > 1:02:48a moment. Before that, the weather.

1:02:52 > 1:02:55Heavy snow over the weekend did cause some disruption and with cold

1:02:55 > 1:03:02nights and snow on the ground, we are looking at problems with ice

1:03:02 > 1:03:07over the next few days. Temperatures are still struggling. We are looking

1:03:07 > 1:03:12at another cold day.

1:03:16 > 1:03:18at another cold day. If Chrissy sunshine across Northern Ireland,

1:03:18 > 1:03:24England and Wales. Edit more cloud in eastern outbreaks of friends of

1:03:24 > 1:03:28the Northern Isles, with highs of seven Celsius. It will be breezy in

1:03:28 > 1:03:32the south. Staying breezy overnight, with increasing amount of cloud and

1:03:32 > 1:03:37a few wintry showers moving in from the east. They will be drier in the

1:03:37 > 1:03:44north-west, with clearer skies which allow temperatures to fall away. We

1:03:44 > 1:03:48are looking at a cold start to the day tomorrow and a frosty one. A few

1:03:48 > 1:03:53patches of i again. A few showers in the East.

1:03:53 > 1:03:55patches of i again. A few showers in the East.

1:03:55 > 1:03:59Hello, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:03:59 > 1:04:02Highly addictive fixed odds betting terminals should have their maximum

1:04:02 > 1:04:04stake reduced from £100 to £30 or less - according

1:04:04 > 1:04:05to the Gambling Commission.

1:04:05 > 1:04:07But gambling addicts have told this programme even

1:04:07 > 1:04:13more needs to be done.

1:04:13 > 1:04:16Reducing the stake on one form of gambling is not

1:04:16 > 1:04:17going to help a problem gambler.

1:04:17 > 1:04:20I mean, if it does happen, what happens after to the gambling

1:04:20 > 1:04:22addict if it gets reduced to £2?

1:04:22 > 1:04:30Are they still gambling?

1:04:31 > 1:04:35Do get in touch with your experience of using this terminals.

1:04:35 > 1:04:37Also on the programme - she went to Syria to fight

1:04:37 > 1:04:38against Islamic State.

1:04:38 > 1:04:40British woman Anna Campbell has died, fighting

1:04:40 > 1:04:41alongside Kurdish forces.

1:04:41 > 1:04:43I said, you know, you could be killed.

1:04:43 > 1:04:44And she said, I know, Dad.

1:04:44 > 1:04:48There's nothing I can do to reassure you about that, but I've got to do

1:04:48 > 1:04:53this.

1:04:53 > 1:04:56We'll hear more from Anna's dad and from one of her friends

1:04:56 > 1:04:57later in the programme.

1:04:57 > 1:04:59And Ant McPartlin has been arrested on suspicion of drink

1:04:59 > 1:05:01driving after his car crashed into two others yesterday.

1:05:01 > 1:05:09We'll bring you the story.

1:05:15 > 1:05:19Let's bring you the latest news so far today.

1:05:19 > 1:05:21The Gambling Commission has recommended that the maximum stake

1:05:21 > 1:05:23for fixed-odds betting terminals should be reduced from £100

1:05:23 > 1:05:25to £30, or £2 in the case

1:05:25 > 1:05:26of slot machines.

1:05:26 > 1:05:29It says cutting the stake alone won't cure problem gambling and has

1:05:29 > 1:05:31recommended what it calls a "comprehensive package of other

1:05:31 > 1:05:32measures to protect consumers".

1:05:32 > 1:05:35The industry had said a blanket reduction to two pounds

1:05:35 > 1:05:38would cost thousands of jobs.

1:05:38 > 1:05:40We are also proposing that there should be

1:05:40 > 1:05:41a form of tracked play

1:05:41 > 1:05:45so that players themselves can have access to good quality data on their

1:05:45 > 1:05:46play behaviour, how much they've lost

1:05:46 > 1:05:48and importantly, that gambling companies then have no excuse not to

1:05:48 > 1:05:56spot problem gambling and act on it.

1:05:58 > 1:06:01Official results from Russia show President Putin has been re-elected

1:06:01 > 1:06:06with more than 76% of the vote. He told a victory rally that Russia

1:06:06 > 1:06:10must maintain unity following his landslide win, but CCTV footage from

1:06:10 > 1:06:13a number of polling stations appears to show election officials stuffing

1:06:13 > 1:06:24boxes with ballot papers.

1:06:25 > 1:06:27International chemical weapons experts are due to arrive

1:06:27 > 1:06:30in the UK later today to test the nerve agent used to poison

1:06:30 > 1:06:32former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

1:06:32 > 1:06:34President Putin says claims his country was behind

1:06:34 > 1:06:36the attack are "nonsense", but Boris Johnson claims Russia has

1:06:36 > 1:06:38been stockpiling Novichok for years.

1:06:38 > 1:06:40Test results could be seen in around two weeks' time.

1:06:40 > 1:06:42The television presenter Ant McPartlin has been arrested

1:06:42 > 1:06:43on suspicion of drink driving.

1:06:43 > 1:06:47Police say they were called to reports of a collision involving

1:06:47 > 1:06:49three cars in south-west London yesterday afternoon.

1:06:49 > 1:06:52A child passenger in one of them was taken to hospital as a precaution.

1:06:52 > 1:06:55In a statement, Scotland Yard said a 42-year-old man was arrested

1:06:55 > 1:07:01at the scene after failing a breathalyser test.

1:07:01 > 1:07:04A British woman has been killed in northern Syria fighting alongside

1:07:04 > 1:07:08Kurdish forces. It is understood that and I Campbell, who was 26 and

1:07:08 > 1:07:12from Lewisham East Sussex, died in the town of Afrin, which had been

1:07:12 > 1:07:17the target of a Turkish offensive. Her father has told the BBC she was

1:07:17 > 1:07:19idealistic and knew she was putting her life at risk.

1:07:19 > 1:07:24That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

1:07:24 > 1:07:27Here's some sport now.

1:07:27 > 1:07:30Rory McIlroy is the new favourite for the Masters after picking

1:07:30 > 1:07:32up his first tournament win since September 2016.

1:07:32 > 1:07:34He's up to seven in the world

1:07:34 > 1:07:35as well after winning

1:07:35 > 1:07:43the Arnold Palmer Invitational in Florida by three shots.

1:07:44 > 1:07:53A final round included five birdies in the first six holes.I gave

1:07:53 > 1:07:57myself chances with every hole and executed shots the way I wanted to

1:07:57 > 1:08:02when I need to. 64 in those conditions out there, with it being

1:08:02 > 1:08:10firm and fast, to get into the winner's circle again feels good.

1:08:14 > 1:08:18The blues bounced back from their Champions League exit earlier in the

1:08:18 > 1:08:21week and with them being way off the pace in the Premier League, the FA

1:08:21 > 1:08:24Cup is their only real chance for a trophy this season. But they had to

1:08:24 > 1:08:29work for it against Leicester, Pedro getting the winner after extra time.

1:08:29 > 1:08:362-1 was the final score and this is Chelsea's tenth FA Cup semifinal in

1:08:36 > 1:08:3918 years. Chelsea will play Southampton, while Tottenham will

1:08:39 > 1:08:42face Manchester United at their home ground at Wembley, although Spurs

1:08:42 > 1:08:49will be in the away dressing room. The draw for the women's FA Cup was

1:08:49 > 1:08:53also made an Radio 5 Live this morning. Holders Manchester City

1:08:53 > 1:08:57will play Chelsea if they can overcome Sunderland. The other semi

1:08:57 > 1:09:01sees Durham or Everton face Arsenal or Charlton. Both semis will be

1:09:01 > 1:09:06shown live on the BBC. Roger Federer heaped praise on Juan

1:09:06 > 1:09:10Martin del Potro after he was beaten to the first time in 18 matches. Del

1:09:10 > 1:09:15Potro saved three match points as he prevailed in the final of the Indian

1:09:15 > 1:09:20Wells Masters. World number one Federer said Del Potro deserved the

1:09:20 > 1:09:26win and congratulated him on a fantastic tournament. Now, have a

1:09:26 > 1:09:33look at this. This is Andy Murray getting his hotel room broken into

1:09:33 > 1:09:36by the comedian Michael McIntyre. It's not as sinister as it sounds.

1:09:36 > 1:09:47This is all in aid of Sport Relief. And the!

1:09:47 > 1:09:54And the! -- and the!BLEEP.To the Sport Relief midnight game show,

1:09:54 > 1:10:05with Sir Andy Murray. Morning, Andy! There was Andy Murray thinking he

1:10:05 > 1:10:09was away from the limelight for a little bit. Not according to Michael

1:10:09 > 1:10:12McIntyre. Not only has he been woken up in the middle of the night, he

1:10:12 > 1:10:19then has to answer quiz questions. I think he handles it pretty well.

1:10:19 > 1:10:23There are a few seconds at the beginning where you think, he is in

1:10:23 > 1:10:27the foulest mood! But he soon realises and put the smile on

1:10:27 > 1:10:33because he is a pro.Exactly, he handled it very well.

1:10:33 > 1:10:36Let's bring you more on the news that one

1:10:36 > 1:10:38half of Ant'n'Dec - Ant McPartlin - has been arrested

1:10:38 > 1:10:40on suspicion of drink-driving after a collision involving three

1:10:40 > 1:10:45vehicles in south-west London.

1:10:45 > 1:10:49This was him with Declan the night before, hosting Saturday Night

1:10:49 > 1:10:58Takeaway on ITV.You are a good crowd tonight! Us with us is our

1:10:58 > 1:11:07guest, Emma Bunton! Hiya, Emma! It's great to have you here.I was so

1:11:07 > 1:11:13excited to be here! I love the show. But from our point of view, to have

1:11:13 > 1:11:16a real-life Spice Girl...

1:11:16 > 1:11:17We're joined now by entertainment

1:11:17 > 1:11:21journalist Caroline Frost.

1:11:21 > 1:11:26That clip was Saturday evening. By Sunday afternoon yesterday, about

1:11:26 > 1:11:29four o'clock, Ant was reportedly stopped. Witnesses heard a huge

1:11:29 > 1:11:34crash occur on the lower Richmond road, just south of the Thames, West

1:11:34 > 1:11:38London. By all reports, on the way back from the park after walking his

1:11:38 > 1:11:41dogs with his mother, he lost control with his Mini, went on to

1:11:41 > 1:11:45the wrong side of the road, crashed into an oncoming Mini and another

1:11:45 > 1:11:50car and the car eventually spun to a halt. It could have been much worse.

1:11:50 > 1:11:54Mercifully, one small child was taken to hospital, which is

1:11:54 > 1:11:58obviously serious, but no one else was hurt. There were huge amounts of

1:11:58 > 1:12:03witnesses crowding around the scene who saw a shocked Ant McPartlin, who

1:12:03 > 1:12:07was taken away by police and returns to his home this morning at around

1:12:07 > 1:12:133am.He has been in the media because he has had much documented

1:12:13 > 1:12:19issues with prescription painkiller addiction.The cliche is a

1:12:19 > 1:12:22roller-coaster year, but for once it is adequate to the description,

1:12:22 > 1:12:25because last year it was all going well for them. It has been going

1:12:25 > 1:12:29well for them for years, and though he had this leg injury and became

1:12:29 > 1:12:38addicted to painkillers. He himself asked for help. He

1:12:38 > 1:12:42asked for help. He texted Dec, saying he needed help. He came back

1:12:42 > 1:12:48and there was a huge reception for him, with awards. They are today's

1:12:48 > 1:12:52finalist, and now this. So we have again seen a huge dip in his

1:12:52 > 1:12:57fortunes.And he has separated from his wife.Yes. The pair of them live

1:12:57 > 1:13:01almost next to each other. They both have lovely wives and families. You

1:13:01 > 1:13:06will see them around in West London by the river on a Sunday, and in the

1:13:06 > 1:13:09space of a few months, it feels like so many things have changed. The

1:13:09 > 1:13:13stability of his marriage is no longer in his life. He has had this

1:13:13 > 1:13:17terrible injury that he is still trying to adjust to, and now this.

1:13:17 > 1:13:22So a huge amount of change. Although as you saw on Saturday night, it is

1:13:22 > 1:13:26still very glossy and popular.Thank you.

1:13:26 > 1:13:30A British woman has been killed in northern Syria fighting

1:13:30 > 1:13:34alongside Kurdish forces.

1:13:34 > 1:13:37It's understood that Anna Campbell - who was 26 and from

1:13:37 > 1:13:39Lewes in East Sussex - died in the town of Afrin,

1:13:39 > 1:13:42which has been the target of a Turkish offensive.

1:13:42 > 1:13:44Her father Dirk Campbell said his daughter was "very

1:13:44 > 1:13:50idealistic" and "determined".

1:13:50 > 1:13:53She came to see me in May last year, and she told me

1:13:53 > 1:13:54she was going to go to Syria.

1:13:54 > 1:14:00She was quite adamant about it.

1:14:00 > 1:14:08I said "You could be killed. And she said "I know, Dad.

1:14:09 > 1:14:11"There's nothing I can do to reassure you about that

1:14:11 > 1:14:14but I've got do this".

1:14:14 > 1:14:16I didn't foresee that it would work out very well.

1:14:16 > 1:14:22I knew that she was intentionally risking her life, as a lot

1:14:22 > 1:14:28of families in this country have also undergone this awful worry,

1:14:28 > 1:14:34trauma, shock of the final knew to be told that their child has been

1:14:34 > 1:14:38trauma, shock of the final news to be told that their child has been

1:14:38 > 1:14:40killed fighting for freedom, for equality, for representation,

1:14:40 > 1:14:48for a better world.

1:14:51 > 1:14:54We can speak now to Macer Gifford, which is not his real name.

1:14:54 > 1:14:57He was a close friend of Anna Campbell, and last

1:14:57 > 1:14:58saw her in May 2017.

1:14:58 > 1:15:01Macer gave up a career in finance and flew to Syria three years ago

1:15:01 > 1:15:03to fight with Kurdish forces against the IS group.

1:15:03 > 1:15:09He came back from Raqqa last year.

1:15:10 > 1:15:14And he has been on our programme to tell you about that. How do you

1:15:14 > 1:15:19react to news that your friend has lost her life question mark with

1:15:19 > 1:15:25shock and sadness.And you are very well, I came in with her in May. She

1:15:25 > 1:15:30was full of life, full of enthusiasm. She was so desperate to

1:15:30 > 1:15:35join the Y P J. She had heard all about them, their resistance against

1:15:35 > 1:15:38the Islamic State, the things they were doing for the communities they

1:15:38 > 1:15:44were liberating. So she was inspired and she had come a long way to be in

1:15:44 > 1:15:50Syria in support of local people. So I'm just shocked as someone who met

1:15:50 > 1:15:55her and saw were so full of life to hear that she has passed away.But

1:15:55 > 1:15:59of course that is the risk if you go out to Syria to fight.Absolutely.

1:15:59 > 1:16:04We are all aware of the risks, hundreds of international is from

1:16:04 > 1:16:07the UK and America and all across the world have gone to fight and

1:16:07 > 1:16:11seven British men have fought and died in Syria alongside the Kurdish

1:16:11 > 1:16:17people. In defence of their rights and their liberty against Islamic

1:16:17 > 1:16:20State for that she's the first female fighter to die on the front

1:16:20 > 1:16:28line. So I hope this draws attention to what is going on on the ground

1:16:28 > 1:16:30that there are people fighting for democracy, equality and freedom that

1:16:30 > 1:16:36belief in secular, democratic values and international is across the

1:16:36 > 1:16:39world are at their supporting them. So there are good people in Syria,

1:16:39 > 1:16:43we just need to find out who they are.The Home Office warns that

1:16:43 > 1:16:46anyone joining the Syrian conflict on whatever side can be prosecuted

1:16:46 > 1:16:52for crimes committed abroad but although it did not happen to you so

1:16:52 > 1:16:57I wonder how you take the morning. That is right, anyone who goes to

1:16:57 > 1:17:04Syria and joins whatever group, they are responsible for their actions.

1:17:04 > 1:17:08And I, myself and hundreds of other Brits who have gone out to fight

1:17:08 > 1:17:11against Isis went because we believe in democracy and believe in

1:17:11 > 1:17:14representative democracy and equality and freedom. We went there

1:17:14 > 1:17:18knowing that if we did anything inappropriate or wrong in the

1:17:18 > 1:17:22country that we were liable for prosecution in return. So I'm very

1:17:22 > 1:17:26supportive of that.Sorry to interrupt, it is not about whether

1:17:26 > 1:17:30you do something wrong in the country but just the fact of going

1:17:30 > 1:17:32to join the conflict, that means that you are liable to potential

1:17:32 > 1:17:37prosecution.Potentially, there is no law saying that fighting abroad

1:17:37 > 1:17:41is illegal, it really is what you get up to what you fight for when

1:17:41 > 1:17:45you're are there. And at the end of the day and fought for the local

1:17:45 > 1:17:52people, for democracy. And they're not listed as a terrorist group by

1:17:52 > 1:17:56the way by any party. They are also supported in fact by the UK and

1:17:56 > 1:18:08America. Britain was fighting in support of the group in Iraq. And

1:18:08 > 1:18:12what is different of course is that she went out to fight against

1:18:12 > 1:18:14Islamic State. In the past few months Turkey has invaded and that

1:18:14 > 1:18:22is the big problem.Turkey considers the group that she joined as an arm

1:18:22 > 1:18:26of the PKK, a terrorist organisation and hence the bombardment in this

1:18:26 > 1:18:31part of Syria.And that is what's so wrong, they're not listed as a

1:18:31 > 1:18:37terrorist group, not linked with the PKK. The UK and America has said

1:18:37 > 1:18:41that clearly. Turkey at the end of the day is confusing what is going

1:18:41 > 1:18:46on in Syria with its own internal problems. Turkey is falling to bits

1:18:46 > 1:18:48politically, it is arresting journalists and academics. They've

1:18:48 > 1:18:52long campaign to get rid of Assad, long supported jihadists groups in

1:18:52 > 1:18:58Syria. Many of the units they had taken from the Kurdish people, has

1:18:58 > 1:19:03already talks of beheading, looting, hundreds of civilians have died. And

1:19:03 > 1:19:08what we have done is to stop the fight against Islamic State and

1:19:08 > 1:19:13opened up a whole new front and that is making the Civil War even more

1:19:13 > 1:19:16bloody and brutal and a lot more complex to solve.Thank you very

1:19:16 > 1:19:21much for talking to us.

1:19:21 > 1:19:23The authorities here have advised that becoming involved with any

1:19:23 > 1:19:31armed group could lead to arrest and prosecution.

1:19:32 > 1:19:39Some e-mails from you about fixed odds betting terminals. It has been

1:19:39 > 1:19:45suggested that the maximum stake should be reduced from £100 to £30

1:19:45 > 1:19:49left. This person says they've worked in betting shops were 20

1:19:49 > 1:19:53years and have seen the change in the industry. All the betting firms

1:19:53 > 1:19:58want to remote FOBTs. The training that the staff had is pathetic,

1:19:58 > 1:20:02we're told that we have no duty of care and should not interact with

1:20:02 > 1:20:07customers if they show signs aggression. I have worked in busy

1:20:07 > 1:20:11betting shops that are understaffed and we are too busy with

1:20:11 > 1:20:14over-the-counter business to monitor what is going on with FOBTs. Another

1:20:14 > 1:20:19says my son has lost thousands of pounds playing in bookies and

1:20:19 > 1:20:22believe me no staff member intervenes. They even let people who

1:20:22 > 1:20:26are drunk gamble thousands of pounds away. The government to decide

1:20:26 > 1:20:30whether they want to be responsible rather than using this as an

1:20:30 > 1:20:36indirect form of taxing the vulnerable poor. And another serving

1:20:36 > 1:20:41less officer who wants to remain anonymous, in the borough I work in

1:20:41 > 1:20:44police are called to betting shops everyday more than twice a day to

1:20:44 > 1:20:46drunk customers refusing to leave or damaging the premises. Because

1:20:46 > 1:20:51they've money. These shops are licensed premises and should be

1:20:51 > 1:20:55regulated more by the government to stop people who are drunk gambling.

1:20:55 > 1:20:59They also make thousands of pounds per day social should be made to

1:20:59 > 1:21:02provide security on the door to stop drunk people going in and also

1:21:02 > 1:21:08remove people causing disturbance and stop people who are banned from

1:21:08 > 1:21:13entering. Thank you very much for those comments.

1:21:13 > 1:21:16A number of new victims of child sexual exploitation in Telford have

1:21:16 > 1:21:18come forward over the last week.

1:21:18 > 1:21:22Conservative MP Lucy Allan said she had been "inundated"

1:21:22 > 1:21:25with reports since speaking about the issue in Parliament.

1:21:25 > 1:21:27On this programme last week we heard

1:21:27 > 1:21:30how abuse in the town could be of a greater scale than any

1:21:30 > 1:21:32other seen in the UK.

1:21:32 > 1:21:35One victim - Holly - told us she'd been abused

1:21:35 > 1:21:41from the age of 14.

1:21:41 > 1:21:44I was in cars that were stopped and searched by the police.

1:21:44 > 1:21:46With older men.

1:21:46 > 1:21:50And it was never questioned why I was in there or who I was, my name

1:21:50 > 1:21:51was never asked.

1:21:51 > 1:21:54And I just think if they had been more proactive at

1:21:54 > 1:22:02points like that, things could have changed earlier.

1:22:02 > 1:22:05I was also going to the doctor and the youth sexual

1:22:05 > 1:22:09health clinic a couple of times a week for about three years,

1:22:09 > 1:22:12getting the morning after pill.

1:22:12 > 1:22:14How many times do you think you took the

1:22:14 > 1:22:15morning after pill?

1:22:15 > 1:22:17I could not even estimate how many times.

1:22:17 > 1:22:18Dozens, hundreds?

1:22:18 > 1:22:20You were going twice a week for it?

1:22:20 > 1:22:21Yes, twice a week.

1:22:21 > 1:22:22Over three years?

1:22:22 > 1:22:23Yes.

1:22:23 > 1:22:25And no one there raised the alarm?

1:22:25 > 1:22:26No.

1:22:26 > 1:22:27Nothing.

1:22:27 > 1:22:29Did they ask you why you kept coming back?

1:22:29 > 1:22:32No, nobody asked any questions.

1:22:32 > 1:22:35And I had two abortions.

1:22:35 > 1:22:39And also again no questions were asked as to what was going on in my

1:22:39 > 1:22:40life.

1:22:40 > 1:22:43I feel if someone had shown that interest, asked me just a few

1:22:43 > 1:22:46questions, it may have made me speak out.

1:22:46 > 1:22:49At least just say there is something not quite right going on

1:22:49 > 1:22:52and I'm not comfortable.

1:22:52 > 1:22:58But no, nothing was ever said.

1:22:58 > 1:23:01Assistant Chief Constable Martin Evans said was pleased that a "small

1:23:01 > 1:23:05number of victims" have had the confidence to come forward

1:23:05 > 1:23:07and they were now being given appropriate support.

1:23:07 > 1:23:09He confirmed

1:23:09 > 1:23:12that since 2016 the dedicated CSE team in Telford has arrested 56

1:23:12 > 1:23:15people, resulting in 29 charges, with a number of these

1:23:15 > 1:23:19investigations still ongoing.

1:23:19 > 1:23:22Tackling child sexual exploitation is the number one priority for

1:23:22 > 1:23:25police in Telford.

1:23:25 > 1:23:28We have specialist officers and resources in

1:23:28 > 1:23:34place tackling this type of offending and we are committed to

1:23:34 > 1:23:38using our resources and technology to pursue anyone who sexual offence

1:23:38 > 1:23:40against children.

1:23:40 > 1:23:42Whether that offending took place today, last

1:23:42 > 1:23:50week, or years ago.

1:23:57 > 1:24:02Well Telford Council are calling on the government to launch a statutory

1:24:02 > 1:24:03enquiry.

1:24:03 > 1:24:05We can speak to Councillor Nicola Lowery, Conservative Councillor

1:24:05 > 1:24:08for Telford and Wrekin, who along with four other

1:24:08 > 1:24:09councillors has requested an Extraordinary General Meeting

1:24:09 > 1:24:11calling on the Labour-run council to commission an independent

1:24:11 > 1:24:13inquiry into child sexual exploitation in Telford.

1:24:13 > 1:24:15And Siobhan Crawford, Associate Solicitor at

1:24:15 > 1:24:17Bolt Burdon Kemp, which specialises in child sexual exploitation claims

1:24:17 > 1:24:20and who has been speaking to some of the Telford victims.

1:24:20 > 1:24:25You would expect more victims to come forward customer that has been

1:24:25 > 1:24:28happening, many survivors have been contacting their MP and I hope many

1:24:28 > 1:24:31contact the police.So that they think about the fact that they do

1:24:31 > 1:24:35not think this is any different from any other town in the country for

1:24:35 > 1:24:39top as simply because of the media coverage and then the Conservative

1:24:39 > 1:24:42MP speaking in parliament? I think that is a big reason why people are

1:24:42 > 1:24:46coming forward now. I think what has come out from the Expose in the

1:24:46 > 1:24:51media is that is it's clear they were trying to disclose to people.

1:24:51 > 1:24:56Holly last week going to get the morning after pill twice a week. Now

1:24:56 > 1:25:00one believe them but now they feel the strength to speak out because

1:25:00 > 1:25:04they will be believed and not thought of as liars.The

1:25:04 > 1:25:11Conservative councillor for Telford is here. And you have requested an

1:25:11 > 1:25:14extraordinary general meeting calling on the Labour run council to

1:25:14 > 1:25:17commission an independent enquiry into child sexual exploitation in

1:25:17 > 1:25:22Telford. I do think it has not happened so far.Thus far we have

1:25:22 > 1:25:26proposed and we would like the council to commission an independent

1:25:26 > 1:25:31enquiry to be led and commissioned by the council. But the council has

1:25:31 > 1:25:34set at the moment, they're called for a statutory enquiry for the

1:25:34 > 1:25:37government has made it clear if the council feels an enquiry is

1:25:37 > 1:25:40necessary that they commission and proceed and commit to that

1:25:40 > 1:25:46themselves.What is the difference if it is commissioned by the local

1:25:46 > 1:25:50council or a statutory enquiry?Main difference would be that the council

1:25:50 > 1:25:55would not have the statutory powers to compel witnesses to come forward

1:25:55 > 1:25:59to give evidence but we feel from all the agencies that have come

1:25:59 > 1:26:02forward they are willing to cooperate certainly as part of a

1:26:02 > 1:26:05wider enquiry. So we feel it is necessary at the moment that the

1:26:05 > 1:26:13council commit to the enquiry. We've been calling for this since 2016. So

1:26:13 > 1:26:17we just feel it is necessary that we get that commitment from the council

1:26:17 > 1:26:21and I think all councils are united helpfully on making sure this public

1:26:21 > 1:26:26enquiry can proceed at the earliest opportunity.And which would better

1:26:26 > 1:26:33serve the survivors?We just feel and certainly I feel the council

1:26:33 > 1:26:36commissioned enquiry will enable the council to set the terms of

1:26:36 > 1:26:40reference and then they would independently appoint a chair or

1:26:40 > 1:26:44judge and lead the enquiry further the government has been clear from

1:26:44 > 1:26:53the beginning that is council feel there still suspicion of abuse

1:26:53 > 1:26:55taking place that they should lead on this and make sure that victims

1:26:55 > 1:27:00have their voices heard at this meeting. And as we've heard from the

1:27:00 > 1:27:04sports coming through from national media, we do not feel at this moment

1:27:04 > 1:27:09that we fully understand the extent of sexual abuse in Telford. And that

1:27:09 > 1:27:12is why we have called for this. It has been now over a week since this

1:27:12 > 1:27:17recent information has come forward on the reporting and we would like

1:27:17 > 1:27:21to think that all councillors now would agree to proceed with this at

1:27:21 > 1:27:24the earliest opportunity.You think it is still going on in Telford? We

1:27:24 > 1:27:30do.Based on what? Mainly from victims that we have heard coming

1:27:30 > 1:27:35forward in recent weeks. We have heard as well whilst there was

1:27:35 > 1:27:39recognition from the police that it is still going on in Telford and

1:27:39 > 1:27:42from the council, we just feel those uncovered evidence till coming

1:27:42 > 1:27:46forward and we would like to make sure as part of a wider havoc and

1:27:46 > 1:27:50worried that some of the evidence initially presented for scrutiny

1:27:50 > 1:27:53right at the start but potentially it was not given that scrutiny if

1:27:53 > 1:27:58needed. That it comes forward as part of a much wider public enquiry

1:27:58 > 1:28:02to make sure those victims are heard as part of this wider enquiry.What

1:28:02 > 1:28:06did you think of the response of your police force last week when it

1:28:06 > 1:28:10was initially suggested that figure is up to 1000 big where

1:28:10 > 1:28:15sensationalised?I think it is bringing about a wider discussion

1:28:15 > 1:28:19and also I think the daily Mirror have investigated this quite

1:28:19 > 1:28:23thoroughly and they certainly feel there is a validity behind some of

1:28:23 > 1:28:30the reporting they have produced. In Telford I believe in 2015 there was

1:28:30 > 1:28:34250 incidents of sexual offences. And in the recent information they

1:28:34 > 1:28:39uncovered, over 700 contacts.Do you think that the Shropshire force are

1:28:39 > 1:28:44in denial about the scale?I would not say denial but certainly what we

1:28:44 > 1:28:47found as part of the rostrum enquiry, police did not understand

1:28:47 > 1:28:56the scale of what was taking place. And we have felt it was necessary to

1:28:56 > 1:28:59make sure this enquiry proceeds of the earliest possible opportunity to

1:28:59 > 1:29:06make sure that those victims are heard. The voices of these victims,

1:29:06 > 1:29:11must be heard. They still feel vulnerable locally in Telford and it

1:29:11 > 1:29:14is that essential that they are given a voice as part of this

1:29:14 > 1:29:22enquiry.As a solicitor specialising in this area, what needs to happen

1:29:22 > 1:29:24customer they're absolutely needs to be an enquiry but not to piggyback

1:29:24 > 1:29:30on the National enquiry because I think that will mean survivors will

1:29:30 > 1:29:33be waiting years for answers as to why they have been down.I think the

1:29:33 > 1:29:37enquiry needs to be put in place quickly but with proper terms of

1:29:37 > 1:29:40reference to make sure that they do obtain the answers they need as

1:29:40 > 1:29:45survivors.Thank you both.

1:29:45 > 1:29:49Still to come:

1:29:49 > 1:29:55We will be looking at how asylum seekers are housed to the country

1:29:55 > 1:29:59back private companies on government contracts. In 72 English football

1:29:59 > 1:30:02clubs are getting together to show you some of the work they do in the

1:30:02 > 1:30:09community. We hear from some of those who have benefited.

1:30:09 > 1:30:15Time for the latest news - here's Joanna.

1:30:15 > 1:30:17The Gambling Commission has recommended that the maximum stake

1:30:17 > 1:30:20for fixed-odds betting terminals should be reduced from £100 to £30,

1:30:20 > 1:30:22or £2 in the case of slot machines.

1:30:22 > 1:30:25The gambling industry had feared a blanket reduction to £2 and warned

1:30:25 > 1:30:27such a move would cost thousands of jobs.

1:30:27 > 1:30:29The Gambling Commission has also recommended what it calls

1:30:29 > 1:30:37a "comprehensive package of other measures to protect consumers".

1:30:37 > 1:30:40Official results from Russia show President Putin has been re-elected

1:30:40 > 1:30:44with more than 76% of the vote. He told a victory rally that Russia

1:30:44 > 1:30:49must maintain unity following his landslide win, but CCTV footage from

1:30:49 > 1:30:52a number of polling stations appears to show election officials stuffing

1:30:52 > 1:30:58boxes with ballot papers. International chemical weapons

1:30:58 > 1:31:01experts have arrived in the UK to test the nerve agent used to poison

1:31:01 > 1:31:07the former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter. President Putin says

1:31:07 > 1:31:13claims that Russia was behind the attacks are nonsense, but Boris

1:31:13 > 1:31:16Johnson says Russia has been stockpiling Novichok for years.

1:31:16 > 1:31:18The television presenter Ant McPartlin has been arrested

1:31:18 > 1:31:19on suspicion of drink driving.

1:31:19 > 1:31:22Police say they were called to reports of a collision involving

1:31:22 > 1:31:24three cars in south-west London yesterday afternoon.

1:31:24 > 1:31:27A child passenger in one of them was taken to hospital as a precaution.

1:31:27 > 1:31:31In a statement, Scotland Yard said a 42 year-old man was arrested

1:31:31 > 1:31:32at the scene after failing a breathalyser test.

1:31:32 > 1:31:34A British woman has been killed in northern Syria,

1:31:34 > 1:31:38fighting alongside Kurdish forces.

1:31:38 > 1:31:41It's understood that Anna Campbell - who was 26 and from

1:31:41 > 1:31:44Lewes in East Sussex - died in the town of Afrin ,

1:31:44 > 1:31:46which has been the target of a Turkish offensive.

1:31:46 > 1:31:48Her father has told the BBC she was idealistic, and knew

1:31:48 > 1:31:50she was putting her life at risk.

1:31:50 > 1:31:55That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:31:55 > 1:31:58Here's some sport now.

1:31:58 > 1:32:01Rory is back.

1:32:01 > 1:32:03McIlroy wins his first tournament for 18 months

1:32:03 > 1:32:09at the Arnold Palmer Invitational.

1:32:09 > 1:32:12The Northern Irishman sunk five birdies in the final six holes

1:32:12 > 1:32:20to finish on 18 under par, three shots ahead of the field.

1:32:21 > 1:32:24World number one Roger Federer's winning run has come to an end,

1:32:24 > 1:32:26after losing the final of Indian Wells to

1:32:26 > 1:32:31Juan Martin del Potro.

1:32:31 > 1:32:34The Argentine is the first player to beat Federer in 18 matches.

1:32:34 > 1:32:36Former England winger Josh Charnley is returning to Rugby League

1:32:36 > 1:32:37with immediate effect.

1:32:37 > 1:32:40He spent less than two years with Sale Sharks

1:32:40 > 1:32:42in Union and has signed for Warrington Wolves.

1:32:42 > 1:32:44And England bowler Stuart Broad tells the BBC

1:32:44 > 1:32:46that he has no plans to retire

1:32:46 > 1:32:47from international cricket any time soon.

1:32:47 > 1:32:49England get their Test match against New Zealand under

1:32:49 > 1:32:52way in the early hours of Thursday morning.

1:32:52 > 1:32:56On this programme last year, 21-year-old James Casling

1:32:56 > 1:32:59shared his story with you of how playing football had given him

1:32:59 > 1:33:06a reason to live after attempting to take his own life several times.

1:33:06 > 1:33:08My story started three weeks after my 18th birthday,

1:33:08 > 1:33:10when I was admitted to the Park Royal Centre

1:33:10 > 1:33:18for mental health.

1:33:20 > 1:33:23I had become so ill that for me, life wasn't worth living.

1:33:23 > 1:33:27At 18, I was ready to die and had made many attempts on my own life.

1:33:27 > 1:33:30If I had carried on that path, I would not be here today.

1:33:30 > 1:33:31Something had to change.

1:33:31 > 1:33:36I had to stop destroying myself and actually build myself up again.

1:33:36 > 1:33:38And that's when football and QPR and the Community Trust

1:33:38 > 1:33:39came and saved my life.

1:33:39 > 1:33:41One morning on the ward, Tom, the occupational therapist,

1:33:41 > 1:33:44woke me up and asked if I wanted to play football.

1:33:44 > 1:33:46And of course, I said yes.

1:33:46 > 1:33:48I did not really expect much at first, but I

1:33:48 > 1:33:49realised I had no boots.

1:33:49 > 1:33:52So I rang my mum and asked if she could get me some.

1:33:52 > 1:33:56Within hours, she had gone out and bought me a pair.

1:33:56 > 1:33:59At the time, I did not realise that if my mum did not

1:33:59 > 1:34:01buy me those boots, things might never have changed

1:34:01 > 1:34:09and I might have lost my life to my mental illness.

1:34:09 > 1:34:17All right, take your time.

1:34:18 > 1:34:22You've got all the time in the world.

1:34:22 > 1:34:25So every week I attended training and it gave me hope for the future,

1:34:25 > 1:34:28so I could be someone my family and friends could be proud of.

1:34:28 > 1:34:32To me it was not just football, it was my life.

1:34:32 > 1:34:40It had given me stuff to build on instead of destroying.

1:34:42 > 1:34:46I have become stronger and have been beating my demons.

1:34:46 > 1:34:49Every week I put in so much effort that I could not walk

1:34:49 > 1:34:50for a few days afterwards.

1:34:50 > 1:34:54It changed me into a better man and it made me want to stay alive

1:34:54 > 1:34:57so my mum and brothers would not have to bury me.

1:34:57 > 1:35:02Instead, they could say to everyone my son and brother plays for QPR.

1:35:02 > 1:35:10I have done some amazing things with QPR.

1:35:10 > 1:35:15My biggest achievement would be that in my first three seasons

1:35:15 > 1:35:20at the club, I was top goal-scorer.

1:35:20 > 1:35:24Every time I put a kit on, I was not this little boy any more,

1:35:24 > 1:35:26I was James, I was free from my demons.

1:35:26 > 1:35:31Unfortunately, others are not so lucky.

1:35:31 > 1:35:33On May 20th 2010, I lost my father to suicide

1:35:33 > 1:35:34on my 15th birthday.

1:35:34 > 1:35:40But I have taken the good from the bad and met amazing people,

1:35:40 > 1:35:43travelled to places to play football.

1:35:43 > 1:35:45I get to meet people from other places.

1:35:45 > 1:35:47For a young boy like me, losing my dad left me

1:35:47 > 1:35:48confused in this big world.

1:35:48 > 1:35:50I did not have any sense of direction.

1:35:50 > 1:35:53My coaches helped me find my way.

1:35:53 > 1:35:56They stood in my corner.

1:35:56 > 1:36:02The support I had from them was amazing.

1:36:02 > 1:36:04I'm just so thankful they became my role models.

1:36:04 > 1:36:05They showed me I'm worth something.

1:36:05 > 1:36:07I'm lucky enough to know them.

1:36:07 > 1:36:10We can never stop people getting mentally unwell,

1:36:10 > 1:36:12but we can help them recover with the use of football.

1:36:12 > 1:36:17It worked for me and many others that I have played

1:36:17 > 1:36:19for and against and play with.

1:36:19 > 1:36:25Football saved my life.

1:36:25 > 1:36:35Well done. That was James Kaz Ling last year. He played for QPR's

1:36:35 > 1:36:39community mental health team. He is doing well.

1:36:39 > 1:36:4272 English Football League clubs will come together tomorrow

1:36:42 > 1:36:45for a day of action to highlight the work they do to help

1:36:45 > 1:36:47change the lives of young people for the better.

1:36:47 > 1:36:50Clubs across the country are holding special events to showcase the work

1:36:50 > 1:36:52they do to tackle mental health, disabilities and obesity

1:36:52 > 1:36:54among the young people in their communities

1:36:54 > 1:36:56through education, health and participation.

1:36:56 > 1:37:04Let's speak now to some of them now: Mike Evans who is the chief exec

1:37:09 > 1:37:12Let's speak now to some of them now:

1:37:12 > 1:37:15Paul Davies, who takes part in the Blackburn Rovers social

1:37:15 > 1:37:16inclusion football programme.

1:37:16 > 1:37:19He suffered a serious electric shock in his teens which led to him trying

1:37:19 > 1:37:24to take his own life.

1:37:24 > 1:37:26Marek Hyde is part of Derby County's Active Choices programme.

1:37:26 > 1:37:29He has in the past had substance addiction,

1:37:29 > 1:37:32been homeless and served time in prison.

1:37:32 > 1:37:35Mike Evans is the chief exec

1:37:35 > 1:37:43of the EFL Trust, and Mel Wilkinson from Bristol City's Youth Council,

1:37:44 > 1:37:52Paul, what impact did your accident have on you?Did change my life. I

1:37:52 > 1:37:56really struggled.It changed your life to your detriment.Yeah, I

1:37:56 > 1:38:02tried to take my own life. And then getting in with the football has

1:38:02 > 1:38:09helped me.In what way?It has given me structure. It has helped me

1:38:09 > 1:38:13socialise. I was socially isolated, so it has helped me meet people. The

1:38:13 > 1:38:19seven years, I didn't play football. I had a void in my life and getting

1:38:19 > 1:38:24back into football has really helped.What would you say to

1:38:24 > 1:38:29Blackburn Rovers for what they provide?They are fantastic. Anyone

1:38:29 > 1:38:37that wants to play, I recommend it. We have around 20 teams now in the

1:38:37 > 1:38:46league with people from Derby County that come down each month.

1:38:46 > 1:38:50that come down each month.Marek, addiction to heroin at one point,

1:38:50 > 1:38:57time in prison. You went to rehab and then got involved in Derby

1:38:57 > 1:39:02County's active choices programme. What is that about?It is basically

1:39:02 > 1:39:09an opportunity to play sports, meet other people, often who have had

1:39:09 > 1:39:14similar issues to myself, and it has given me loads of opportunities to

1:39:14 > 1:39:20practise my sports, meet new people. They even put me forward to do the

1:39:20 > 1:39:22homeless World Cup, which is a street football tournament. I went

1:39:22 > 1:39:26all the way to Oslo. So these are amazing opportunities I had never

1:39:26 > 1:39:31dreams of.And what is the link between playing football, or any

1:39:31 > 1:39:35sport, but it happens to be football, and you staying away from

1:39:35 > 1:39:43being attracted to class A drugs or whatever?For me, when I was

1:39:43 > 1:39:50involved in drugs, I became immersed in a lifestyle. I was stuck in a

1:39:50 > 1:39:53certain group of people and when I came out of that, I felt quite

1:39:53 > 1:39:57isolated. Football has given me the chance to meet other people and

1:39:57 > 1:40:04build new bridges in the community. And it is good for the soul. That is

1:40:04 > 1:40:10what we are saying. Mel, tell us about the Bristol youth Council.So

1:40:10 > 1:40:13in Bristol, we have a youth Council which was formed two years ago.

1:40:13 > 1:40:19There are eight members and we have worked on four elements: women and

1:40:19 > 1:40:26girls, disability... I have got to think now! Social inclusion and

1:40:26 > 1:40:33holiday camps.And what does that mean for women and girls in the

1:40:33 > 1:40:36area?It gives women and girls the opportunity to play football. We

1:40:36 > 1:40:45have a girls' session. We also have a mums group CAP mumble. It gives

1:40:45 > 1:40:48mums the opportunity to play football.I have never heard about

1:40:48 > 1:40:56that!Mumble is a session for Munster, London play football.

1:40:56 > 1:41:02Badly?No, we have some brilliant mums playing football.And all of

1:41:02 > 1:41:06that is about welcoming people in and saying, whoever you are,

1:41:06 > 1:41:15whatever your background, join us. Exactly.Mumble! I love hearing

1:41:15 > 1:41:19about something new. Probably everybody has heard of it except me,

1:41:19 > 1:41:23so apologies. Mike, there is a lot of good stuff going on and it is

1:41:23 > 1:41:26stuff that you would not necessarily associate with football, because

1:41:26 > 1:41:32everybody has a preconceived idea, although not necessarily the

1:41:32 > 1:41:36divisions below the Premier League, of money, people who don't care,

1:41:36 > 1:41:41prima donnas etc.Football is a real engagement tool. That is the key to

1:41:41 > 1:41:44all the projects these guys have talked about. Football get people

1:41:44 > 1:41:50through the door. Sometimes people may have been turned down by more

1:41:50 > 1:41:53traditional services, but football is a more welcoming environment. And

1:41:53 > 1:41:56once we have got young people engaged, we can do all kinds of

1:41:56 > 1:42:03different things with them. We work around obesity, health and fitness.

1:42:03 > 1:42:09We do a lot of education programmes. And this is each of the 72 clubs?

1:42:09 > 1:42:15Pretty much. There is variety, so mumble is not happening in 72

1:42:15 > 1:42:18places, that is particular to Bristol City. But things like the

1:42:18 > 1:42:23women's and girls football and education programmes are pretty

1:42:23 > 1:42:27standard among the 72 clubs. These are things that are happening 360

1:42:27 > 1:42:35Round days a year.And why do you do it?I think football is something

1:42:35 > 1:42:39back to the communities in which it is based, and they are interested in

1:42:39 > 1:42:43making them better economically and socially and putting something back.

1:42:43 > 1:42:47For two hours a week, the football club is perhaps a distraction for

1:42:47 > 1:42:55local people who are not engaged -- people who are not into football

1:42:55 > 1:43:02might be annoyed with the trouble on the dust, but for the week, there is

1:43:02 > 1:43:06amazing work going on in the community. So tomorrow's day of

1:43:06 > 1:43:10action is about shining a light on that work. It is going on all the

1:43:10 > 1:43:13time, but for one day, we want each club to focus on a project that they

1:43:13 > 1:43:19deliver and bring some media attention to it.I have a lot of

1:43:19 > 1:43:26messages here. Mostly about James, the clip we played. Lizzie says,

1:43:26 > 1:43:31wishing this young man love and strength to keep going. I found his

1:43:31 > 1:43:35speech moving. Donna says, I am in bits and my heart breaks for these

1:43:35 > 1:43:40young people. I am so grateful for the work people like you are doing

1:43:40 > 1:43:43to help. Stewart says, heartbreaking to watch this young man's talk about

1:43:43 > 1:43:48saving his life. If you want to watch the full interview with James,

1:43:48 > 1:43:54it is on Twitter and Facebook. So if it wasn't for the programmes you are

1:43:54 > 1:43:59involved in, what do you think you would be doing, Marek?I could be in

1:43:59 > 1:44:01a totally different situation. I have made a lot of friends through

1:44:01 > 1:44:08football. I have found myself in a community that cares, and I can give

1:44:08 > 1:44:12back now that I have the opportunity. I have learned from

1:44:12 > 1:44:18others. It could be a lot worse. Without things to fill my time, I

1:44:18 > 1:44:26could slip back into addiction. If you feel alone, that is something

1:44:26 > 1:44:33that can impact on you.And what about you, Paul?I don't think I

1:44:33 > 1:44:37would be here. I have two young boys as well, but I was that bad last

1:44:37 > 1:44:44year, or housebound. At least now I have a bit of structure.Thank you

1:44:44 > 1:44:51all. Thank you for introducing me to Mumble! I will investigate further.

1:44:51 > 1:44:59I recommend it!

1:45:00 > 1:45:03I recommend it!Thank you for your comments about fixed odds betting

1:45:03 > 1:45:08terminals. David says I have worked in the betting industry is shop

1:45:08 > 1:45:13manager and I have had gambling problems myself. I had to leave the

1:45:13 > 1:45:18job after losing my family because of gambling problems. Staff in

1:45:18 > 1:45:23bookmakers have no interest if customers lose on the FOBTs, no

1:45:23 > 1:45:29interest in helping and do what they need to do. They think that the

1:45:29 > 1:45:33employer thinks they should be doing. I've also seen people making

1:45:33 > 1:45:38false logs to say they've spoken to people so it appears they are doing

1:45:38 > 1:45:42what they meant to do. Some staff encourage people to play happy to

1:45:42 > 1:45:47get tips when they swim. Personally I hate machines and think they are

1:45:47 > 1:45:51fixed to make his profits. I think there's no way that you can win on

1:45:51 > 1:45:58them. I feel there should be banned from Chris says my son has tried

1:45:58 > 1:46:03self exclusion from betting shops and it does not work. He has filled

1:46:03 > 1:46:07in forms, provided his photo but not one member of staff is ever

1:46:07 > 1:46:11approached him. He wants to be stopped, he says if someone just

1:46:11 > 1:46:15came over to him he would come out of what he calls his red fog. And

1:46:15 > 1:46:20what about only being able to use cash in the shops, so easy to people

1:46:20 > 1:46:24using your card but cash could be a visible deterrent. He is now

1:46:24 > 1:46:29positive about the effect that hypnotherapy has had on him.

1:46:29 > 1:46:33Landlords are able to prevent people drinking more and what is the

1:46:33 > 1:46:39difference. Thank you for those comments.

1:46:39 > 1:46:42Every year, thousands of asylum seekers enter the UK -

1:46:42 > 1:46:43both legally and sometimes illegally.

1:46:43 > 1:46:46When they arrive, most are initially housed in an asylum reception centre

1:46:46 > 1:46:49while the Home Office decides whether their case to stay

1:46:49 > 1:46:53as a refugee in the UK is genuine.

1:46:53 > 1:46:57One such Initial Accomodation Centre which houses over 200 asylum seekers

1:46:57 > 1:47:00has just opened in Derby - despite opposition

1:47:00 > 1:47:03from local residents.

1:47:03 > 1:47:07Our reporter Sean Clare bought you his full film

1:47:07 > 1:47:10earlier in the programme - here's a short extract:

1:47:10 > 1:47:12Oh, by the way, you're having 240 asylum seekers

1:47:12 > 1:47:20on your doorstep and guess what, you can't do anything about it.

1:47:28 > 1:47:30They should have come out and spoken to residents properly instead

1:47:30 > 1:47:33of just inviting people to a council meeting and saying this

1:47:33 > 1:47:34is what we've put in place.

1:47:34 > 1:47:37They could have sent out leaflets, they could have knocked on doors.

1:47:37 > 1:47:40They are a big organisation, it is not that they are

1:47:40 > 1:47:41short of a few quid.

1:47:41 > 1:47:44They should have consulted people and given that reassurance that,

1:47:44 > 1:47:46you know what, we're here to work with you.

1:47:46 > 1:47:49And any concerns you've got, come to us directly so we can answer

1:47:49 > 1:47:52those concerns and you can get on with life and the refugees

1:47:52 > 1:48:00here can get on with life.

1:48:08 > 1:48:11Because of the fear of this place I wanted to get out

1:48:11 > 1:48:12before it all started.

1:48:12 > 1:48:14I wish I could turn the clock back.

1:48:14 > 1:48:16I wish they'd given us more information before

1:48:16 > 1:48:17everyone panicked.

1:48:17 > 1:48:20That is my main concern.

1:48:20 > 1:48:23The information should have been put out there so people like me,

1:48:23 > 1:48:28people like myself, would have had a better educated response.

1:48:28 > 1:48:29I don't want this.

1:48:29 > 1:48:31I haven't signed up for this.

1:48:31 > 1:48:32I don't want this.

1:48:32 > 1:48:33You were lucky, you moved.

1:48:33 > 1:48:36If I could have moved I would have been out of here straightaway.

1:48:36 > 1:48:39I would not have batted an eyelid about it.

1:48:39 > 1:48:40I would have been gone.

1:48:40 > 1:48:42Because it's not my cup of tea.

1:48:42 > 1:48:45At the moment it's all nice, it's all clouds with silver linings.

1:48:45 > 1:48:46Until something drastic happens.

1:48:46 > 1:48:49If your shop gets broken into, and I came and talked

1:48:49 > 1:48:51to you tomorrow, what do you think of down here?

1:48:51 > 1:48:58You'd be like, you know, I don't want to talk about it.

1:49:04 > 1:49:08We were told this was the building they would be housed in. It only has

1:49:08 > 1:49:12one entrance, it is above a pizza shop. We have a lot of children that

1:49:12 > 1:49:16hang around this area. I think the children would have just handed

1:49:16 > 1:49:23them. Not just the general public, just the children. At this time of

1:49:23 > 1:49:26night, now, they would have been gathering outside the pizza shop and