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0:00:06 > 0:00:08Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock.

0:00:08 > 0:00:10I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme

0:00:10 > 0:00:12Our top story today - planting fake news, spying

0:00:12 > 0:00:16on rivals, hiring beautiful women for use in honeytraps,

0:00:16 > 0:00:19some of the things the boss of election campaign consultants

0:00:19 > 0:00:20Cambridge Analytica talked about when talking

0:00:20 > 0:00:23to a possible client who was, in fact,

0:00:23 > 0:00:26an undercover reporter.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28The boss now says that report grossly misrepresented

0:00:28 > 0:00:35those conversations.

0:00:35 > 0:00:40Please see this as a coordinated attack by the media that's been

0:00:40 > 0:00:44going on for very, very many months -- we see this as. In order to

0:00:44 > 0:00:51damage the company that had some involvement with the election of

0:00:51 > 0:00:51Donald Trump.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53The Information Commissioner says she'll be investigating -

0:00:53 > 0:00:56we'll hear from her before the end of the programme.

0:00:56 > 0:01:01Also on the programme - in an exclusive interview,

0:01:01 > 0:01:04actor Michael Sheen tells us how he's taking on rent to own companies

0:01:04 > 0:01:07which charge huge interest rates for household products -

0:01:07 > 0:01:12it's an issue we've investigated before.

0:01:13 > 0:01:19I said where's it from? BrightHouse. I said, oh, my God. How many times

0:01:19 > 0:01:25have I said don't judge them with a barge pole?!

0:01:25 > 0:01:29barge pole?!We will hear from Michael Sheen and former Labour

0:01:29 > 0:01:31leader Ed Miliband in the next 15 minutes.

0:01:31 > 0:01:34And hair plays a huge part in our self image and self esteem -

0:01:34 > 0:01:37so what impact does it have on you if you start

0:01:37 > 0:01:38losing it in yours 20s?

0:01:38 > 0:01:42I thought I am too young for her loss, I have just turned 25, I have

0:01:42 > 0:01:53experienced this since college. I am way too young to be losing my hair.

0:01:53 > 0:01:54Hello.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00As we are each weekday.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news

0:02:02 > 0:02:05and developing stories and - as always - we're keen

0:02:05 > 0:02:06to hear from you.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Also we'll bring you this story - the world's last male northern white

0:02:09 > 0:02:12rhino has died in Kenya, bringing the sub-species to the very

0:02:12 > 0:02:14brink of extinction.

0:02:14 > 0:02:17The 45-year-old rhino, who was called Sudan,

0:02:17 > 0:02:21was in poor health and was put down on Monday.

0:02:21 > 0:02:28His daughter and grand-daughter are the only females remaining now.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30We'll look at what this means and talk to those who knew Sudan.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

0:02:34 > 0:02:36use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.

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0:02:43 > 0:02:44Our top story today...

0:02:44 > 0:02:46The Information Commissioner will today apply for a warrant

0:02:46 > 0:02:49to search the offices of a British company accused of misusing

0:02:49 > 0:02:51the personal data of 50 million Facebook users.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53A former employee of Cambridge Analytica has accused it

0:02:53 > 0:02:57of exploiting information about Facebook users

0:02:57 > 0:03:00in order to influence the US presidential election.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03Its executives have also been filmed by Channel 4 News suggesting it

0:03:03 > 0:03:05could use honey traps and potentially bribery

0:03:05 > 0:03:10to discredit politicians.

0:03:10 > 0:03:14Both Cambridge Analytica and Facebook deny any wrongdoing.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18Mark Lobel reports.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20A leading British data mining firm is today battling

0:03:20 > 0:03:23to save its reputation.

0:03:23 > 0:03:24Yet, this is complex to do...

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Executives from Cambridge Analytica have been secretly filmed

0:03:26 > 0:03:29by Channel 4 News apparently suggesting it could use honey traps

0:03:29 > 0:03:36and potential bribery to discredit politicians.

0:03:36 > 0:03:38But the company hit back, criticising how the programme

0:03:38 > 0:03:44was edited, claiming they do not engage in honey traps or bribes.

0:03:44 > 0:03:48Last night, the company's chief executive spoke to the BBC.

0:03:48 > 0:03:55I have a huge amount of regrets about the fact that we maybe

0:03:55 > 0:03:57undertook this meeting and spoke with a certain amount of hyperbole

0:03:57 > 0:04:00about some of the things that we do.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03But the allegations don't end there.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05Cambridge Analytica may be responsible for a major breach

0:04:05 > 0:04:09of ordinary people's data, too.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12It has been accused of using the personal data from 50 million

0:04:12 > 0:04:15Facebook users to encourage voters to back Donald Trump during the 2016

0:04:15 > 0:04:19US presidential election.

0:04:19 > 0:04:21A whistleblower from the company claims a personality quiz

0:04:21 > 0:04:26on Facebook was used to amass the data.

0:04:26 > 0:04:28That potential breach of privacy has alarmed

0:04:28 > 0:04:31the Information Commissioner who today, citing Cambridge

0:04:31 > 0:04:34Analytica's lack of co-operation, is seeking a warrant

0:04:34 > 0:04:39to search its databases and servers.

0:04:39 > 0:04:41Facebook suspended Cambridge Analytica from its services last

0:04:41 > 0:04:45week and instructed a digital forensic team to find out if it

0:04:45 > 0:04:47still has the data in question, but Cambridge Analytica claimed it

0:04:47 > 0:04:51has deleted all the data it obtained from a third party application

0:04:51 > 0:04:54in 2014 after learning the information did not adhere

0:04:54 > 0:04:56to data protection rules.

0:04:56 > 0:05:04Mark Lobel, BBC News.

0:05:04 > 0:05:08Our correspondent Keith Doyle is here now.

0:05:08 > 0:05:15What else can you tell us?Cambridge Analytica wants to be in the

0:05:15 > 0:05:18background, obviously, and it is finding itself in the headlines,

0:05:18 > 0:05:21something it definitely does not once. Those allegations of last

0:05:21 > 0:05:26night, the recording is broadcast by Channel 4, in that Aleksander Nix

0:05:26 > 0:05:29was asked about Digg Dummett Radebe digging, he said we do a lot more

0:05:29 > 0:05:34than that. -- was asked about deep digging. We could offer clients a

0:05:34 > 0:05:40deal that seems too good to be true, maybe send some girls around. He

0:05:40 > 0:05:43said he was grossly misrepresented and they were following ludicrous

0:05:43 > 0:05:46hypothetical scenarios so as not to embarrass what they thought was a

0:05:46 > 0:05:51potential client. Now we know the information Commissioner Elizabeth

0:05:51 > 0:05:57Denham wants to look at their servers and computers. Liam Byrne,

0:05:57 > 0:06:03the shadowed digital Business Minister is questioning that,

0:06:03 > 0:06:07questioning whether she has the right legal powers to be able to

0:06:07 > 0:06:13carry out a thorough search. He says that in effect she has given them a

0:06:13 > 0:06:18bit of a heads up and now they know what lies in store, so he says it is

0:06:18 > 0:06:21the wild West out there. It will be interesting to hear what she says

0:06:21 > 0:06:26later.Thank you, Keith. We will hear both from Labour's Liam Byrne

0:06:26 > 0:06:30and the information Commissioner later. Annita McVeigh has the rest

0:06:30 > 0:06:36of the day's news.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40Jeremy Corbyn says the UK must steel deal with Vladimir Putin despite

0:06:40 > 0:06:44evidence pointing to his country's involvement in the Salisbury spy

0:06:44 > 0:06:47attack. The Labour leader said he would do business with Russia but

0:06:47 > 0:06:51assertively and on the basis of UK values. Shadow Chancellor John

0:06:51 > 0:06:56McDonnell says he believes Putin was responsible but Mr Corbyn said he

0:06:56 > 0:06:58wanted an absolutely definitive answer about the source of the nerve

0:06:58 > 0:07:01agent.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy is being held in police

0:07:04 > 0:07:09custody in connection with an investigation into campaign funding.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13Police are investigating alleged irregularities over the financing of

0:07:13 > 0:07:16his 2007 presidential campaign. He is being questioned over allegations

0:07:16 > 0:07:22that he received funding from Bulega Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24Consumers could see prices fall by up to 1.2% if Britain

0:07:24 > 0:07:27were to abolish all tariffs once it has left the European Union.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30The findings are in a report by the financial

0:07:30 > 0:07:31think tank, the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34But the independent report also warns that any gains would be small

0:07:34 > 0:07:39and that costs linked to new EU trade barriers could hit consumers.

0:07:39 > 0:07:42A two-year-old girl has died after being lifted from a car found

0:07:42 > 0:07:44in a river in Wales.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46Kiara Moore was recovered from a silver Mini in

0:07:46 > 0:07:48the River Teifi in Cardigan.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50On Monday afternoon, numerous Facebook posts claimed

0:07:50 > 0:07:53the car had been stolen.

0:07:53 > 0:07:55Officers say they are continuing to investigate the circumstances

0:07:55 > 0:07:57of the incident and appealed for witnesses who may have seen

0:07:57 > 0:08:00the vehicle enter the river.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02The taxi-hailing service Uber has suspended testing

0:08:02 > 0:08:07of its driverless cars in the US after a fatal accident.

0:08:07 > 0:08:11A 49-year-old woman was hit as she crossed a street in Arizona.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13While self-driving cars have been involved in several crashes,

0:08:13 > 0:08:16it is thought to be the first time a self-driving car has been involved

0:08:16 > 0:08:24in a fatal collision.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28Police are urging members of the public to help them prevent terror

0:08:28 > 0:08:32attacks in the UK as part of a new drive to encourage people to report

0:08:32 > 0:08:37suspicious behaviour or activity. Detectives have revealed that one in

0:08:37 > 0:08:40five reports made to counterterrorism police last year

0:08:40 > 0:08:43contained useful intelligence. Here is our home affairs correspondent

0:08:43 > 0:08:44Danny Shaw.

0:08:44 > 0:08:47The police need the public's help to tackle terrorism.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49They want people to become their ears and eyes,

0:08:49 > 0:08:54to be on the lookout for unusual activity or behaviour and report it.

0:08:54 > 0:09:02The message is, trust your instincts.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04Just as officers trust theirs when they spot

0:09:04 > 0:09:05something that doesn't feel right.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08I may see someone paying attention to security operations, um,

0:09:08 > 0:09:11a car going past the same location numerous times, a person with no

0:09:11 > 0:09:15direction or purpose, but the list is not exhaustive.

0:09:15 > 0:09:21It's very much what is suspicious to that person.

0:09:21 > 0:09:25As part of the police campaign, there is a short film to show

0:09:25 > 0:09:27people the kind of things they should report.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35We have long said every good police officer should be

0:09:35 > 0:09:36a counterterrorism officer.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39I want every good citizen to be a good counterterrorism citizen

0:09:39 > 0:09:43and this is the way they can do just that.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46Counterterrorism police say they received more than 6000 useful

0:09:46 > 0:09:49tipoffs last year out of almost 31,000 calls and messages

0:09:49 > 0:09:50and they want the information to keep on coming.

0:09:50 > 0:09:57Danny Shaw, BBC News.

0:09:57 > 0:10:00Fathers wanting to take an equal share in looking after young

0:10:00 > 0:10:01children are being failed by workplace policies,

0:10:01 > 0:10:03the Government is being warned.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06The Women and Equalities Committee said that, despite good intentions,

0:10:06 > 0:10:09policies aimed at helping fathers are not delivering what they

0:10:09 > 0:10:13promise - especially for less well-off workers.

0:10:13 > 0:10:14MPs called for improvements to flexible working,

0:10:14 > 0:10:20shared parental leave and paternity pay.

0:10:20 > 0:10:21The world's last surviving male northern white

0:10:21 > 0:10:25rhino has died in Kenya.

0:10:25 > 0:10:2745-year-old Sudan was put to sleep on Monday after suffering

0:10:27 > 0:10:30from age-related complications.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33His death leaves only two females - his daughter and granddaughter -

0:10:33 > 0:10:35alive in the world.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37Scientists are hoping to develop IVF techniques

0:10:37 > 0:10:45to preserve the subspecies.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48The TV presenter and McPartlin has stepped down from his work

0:10:48 > 0:10:52commitments to return to rehab after being arrested on suspicion of

0:10:52 > 0:10:56drink-driving. This weekend's Saturday Night Takeaway has been

0:10:56 > 0:11:00cancelled and it is not clear who will present the final two episodes

0:11:00 > 0:11:03of the series.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05The impact of losing your hair when you're

0:11:05 > 0:11:07young can be devastating.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09Radio 1 Newsbeat has been speaking to people who've

0:11:09 > 0:11:11lost their hair in their twenties.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13They've been talking about the effect it had had

0:11:13 > 0:11:16on their lives and the measures they're taking to deal with it.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19You can see our special report in about fifteen minutes' time.

0:11:19 > 0:11:26That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

0:11:26 > 0:11:32We will talk to actor Michael Sheen in a moment.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37in a moment. He is launching a campaign to promote alternative

0:11:37 > 0:11:41credit companies who have much cheaper credit than big payday loan

0:11:41 > 0:11:43companies and the rent to own companies, something we have

0:11:43 > 0:11:47featured on this programme a number of times. We will talk to him in a

0:11:47 > 0:11:54moment, but first Jess has the sport.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58sport. There is debate about whether Serena Williams has been given the

0:11:58 > 0:12:03rough end of the draw in Miami?Lots of debate about this, especially in

0:12:03 > 0:12:11the BBC Sports Centre in Salford. She has returned after 13 months

0:12:11 > 0:12:13off.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15She used to be the world number one but since returning

0:12:15 > 0:12:16is currently ranked 491st.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19And because of that low ranking, she will play a tougher opponent

0:12:19 > 0:12:21earlier on in a tournament, rather than in the latter

0:12:21 > 0:12:24stages, making it more difficult for her to win.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27The director of the Miami Open, where Serena will play

0:12:27 > 0:12:31in the first round this evening, has described the whole thing

0:12:31 > 0:12:37as "punishment" against Serena for taking time out to have a baby.

0:12:37 > 0:12:40James Blake suggests there should be protection for women players that

0:12:40 > 0:12:46go on maternity leave.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48His quotes are quite strong.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05The Women's Tennis Association recently said that they are very

0:13:05 > 0:13:10supportive of those players returning from pregnancy and the

0:13:10 > 0:13:15players... And the rules, I should say, will be further reviewed. But

0:13:15 > 0:13:20we have not had a response from Serena yet, amazingly. She plays in

0:13:20 > 0:13:27Miami this evening so we expect to hear from her possibly a bit later.

0:13:27 > 0:13:31All the dust and snow has settled on the Six Nations, everyone happy and

0:13:31 > 0:13:35the Ireland camp but questions being asked of Eddie Jones?The fallout

0:13:35 > 0:13:40from England's rubber skin showing in the Six Nations continues. Former

0:13:40 > 0:13:44player Jeremy Guscott is having his Siame believes England need to start

0:13:44 > 0:13:48from scratch and have not made any progress in the last year. They were

0:13:48 > 0:13:52defending Six Nations champions, they lost three of their five

0:13:52 > 0:14:04matches, finishing fifth in the

0:14:05 > 0:14:10table. There was so much fanfare when Eddie Jones, the head coach,

0:14:10 > 0:14:15took the mantle and they went on an amazing run of winning games, but it

0:14:15 > 0:14:18has all fallen apart and there are major questions to be as of Jones

0:14:18 > 0:14:24and the England players. We don't normally feature football

0:14:24 > 0:14:28from Chile, something we need to rectify immediately. Show as this

0:14:28 > 0:14:35outstanding acting acclamationthis is the Chilean top-flight.

0:14:35 > 0:14:40Definitely a contender for worst dive of the year, possibly ever. You

0:14:40 > 0:14:40only

0:14:40 > 0:14:41dive of the year, possibly ever. You only really get to see it in the

0:14:41 > 0:14:49slow replay. The defender in white falls down, the attacker thinks no,

0:14:49 > 0:14:54I will not kick it, I will throw myself to the floor. Look how his

0:14:54 > 0:14:58neck cocks back, he rides around on the floor a little bit and

0:14:58 > 0:14:59amazingly, because of

0:14:59 > 0:15:01the floor a little bit and amazingly, because of acting, he won

0:15:01 > 0:15:06a penalty.No! You reap what you sow, that will come back to haunt

0:15:06 > 0:15:13him. Thank you very much, Jessica. Welcome to the programme.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15Tackling those who unfairly target the most

0:15:15 > 0:15:18vulnerable in society - the British actor, Michael Sheen,

0:15:18 > 0:15:20who's starred in films such as Frost/Nixon,

0:15:20 > 0:15:25The Queen and The Twilight Saga, has founded a new initiative aimed

0:15:25 > 0:15:33at providing fairer alternatives to mainstream rent-to-own firms.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36The End High Cost Credit Alliance will invest

0:15:36 > 0:15:38in not-for-profit companies to compete and win against

0:15:38 > 0:15:41high-cost credit providers like Brighthouse and Perfect Home.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44Rent-to-own firms are often used by people who cannot afford

0:15:44 > 0:15:49to buy a product outright, or cannot get credit.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51Consumers take out an agreement to buy a product

0:15:51 > 0:15:54and then pay weekly instalments until they own it - similar

0:15:54 > 0:15:59to a hire purchase agreement.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02But customers can end up paying much more than the actual

0:16:02 > 0:16:05cost of the product due to high rates of interest and extra

0:16:05 > 0:16:07costs such as a mandatory warranty.

0:16:07 > 0:16:09It's an issue we've been looking at for some

0:16:09 > 0:16:12time on this programme.

0:16:12 > 0:16:15In July, 2016, former Labour leader Ed Miliband reported on the subject

0:16:15 > 0:16:17for us and highlighted one example

0:16:17 > 0:16:25that a £358 washing machine ended up costing more than £1,000.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31With so much choice on the high street, we're told

0:16:31 > 0:16:34the customer is king.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38As leader of the Labour Party and a backbench MP, I have talked about

0:16:38 > 0:16:42the needs for firms to do right by their customers and play by the

0:16:42 > 0:16:50rules. They have 300 stores across the country, often in the poorest

0:16:50 > 0:16:53areas, Brighthouse. I want to find out what kind of service they are

0:16:53 > 0:16:59really providing. I am concerned Brighthouse are taking advantage of

0:16:59 > 0:17:03people on benefits and low incomes. In the course of our investigation,

0:17:03 > 0:17:08I have been really shocked to find Brighthouse are selling to people

0:17:08 > 0:17:13with mental health problems and learning disabilities.Suffers with

0:17:13 > 0:17:18mental health problems, severe. Craig is 38, with autism and

0:17:18 > 0:17:22cerebral palsy. His mum says her son did not understand the contract. She

0:17:22 > 0:17:29spoke to us on his behalf.He will pay but then he has nothing for

0:17:29 > 0:17:36himself. For food and electric, gas, things like that. He is quite a

0:17:36 > 0:17:39handful.Tell us a bit about what experience you have had but

0:17:39 > 0:17:46Brighthouse.Craig apparently had been in and bought this machine

0:17:46 > 0:17:52where you play games. I kept seeing it in the house and I did not really

0:17:52 > 0:17:57tweak and then I said, where did you... How much are you paying for

0:17:57 > 0:18:05that? He said £50. It was 43 a month. I said, where is it from? He

0:18:05 > 0:18:10said Brighthouse. I said, my God, how many times have I said do not

0:18:10 > 0:18:16touch them with a barge pole?Do you think it would have been obvious to

0:18:16 > 0:18:20the Brighthouse staff Craig has learning difficulties?Yes.What was

0:18:20 > 0:18:24the reaction of Brighthouse when you complained in the shop and when you

0:18:24 > 0:18:30wrote to them?They said, we have been through this, a new man at the

0:18:30 > 0:18:34shop, we go through this to make sure they know what they are

0:18:34 > 0:18:38getting. I said, that is no good to Craig.Although she believes

0:18:38 > 0:18:42Brighthouse should have realised her son was from rubble, she says they

0:18:42 > 0:18:46stop taking payments from his account as soon as she told them

0:18:46 > 0:18:53about his situation -- her son was vulnerable. Brighthouse dispute the

0:18:53 > 0:18:58claims it would have been obvious he had learning difficulties. They had

0:18:58 > 0:19:01no reason to believe he was not aware of what he was doing. There

0:19:01 > 0:19:07are those who make the case there was a gap in the market and Perfect

0:19:07 > 0:19:10Home, Brighthouse and others provide an essential purpose.The

0:19:10 > 0:19:14fundamental question is whether we think these people should be able to

0:19:14 > 0:19:19opt into a contract where they pay more overall or have the appliance,

0:19:19 > 0:19:24it is an injustice to tell people that because they are poor they

0:19:24 > 0:19:28cannot have things that we consider necessities.Some of the companies

0:19:28 > 0:19:33are making very big profits at the expense of my constituents. How is

0:19:33 > 0:19:38it fair?They are taking on a lot of risk. They are making marginal

0:19:38 > 0:19:41profits because they are loaning to people with average credit scores.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45These went to an companies often take on people with no credit score,

0:19:45 > 0:19:49they do not know if they will get the payment, they take on a lot of

0:19:49 > 0:19:54risk. They get their profits because they have to insure down the line

0:19:54 > 0:19:57they will get some kind of return but in the meantime people who would

0:19:57 > 0:20:03not have the goods are getting them to their homes next day delivery.

0:20:03 > 0:20:09That report from Ed Miliband, 2016. And he is here. Former Labour leader

0:20:09 > 0:20:11of course.

0:20:11 > 0:20:14In Glasgow is Michael Sheen who's launching this move to end

0:20:14 > 0:20:20the high cost of credit and is giving his first interview

0:20:20 > 0:20:23on the subject to us this morning.

0:20:23 > 0:20:28We would like your experiences. A world away from your day job, tell

0:20:28 > 0:20:31our audience what it is you are launching and what you wanted to

0:20:31 > 0:20:39achieve.I'm in Glasgow for a responsible finance forum, I want to

0:20:39 > 0:20:42launch the End High-Cost Credit Alliance and it is to create a

0:20:42 > 0:20:46fairer deal for the people who find themselves unable to access

0:20:46 > 0:20:50mainstream credit and a fairer deal for the company is trying to help

0:20:50 > 0:20:55those people out, to try to give them the best deal possible. It is

0:20:55 > 0:21:00double tracked.And you have been made aware of the effect of this

0:21:00 > 0:21:05kind of high cost credit on friends and family, I gather?Over the last

0:21:05 > 0:21:09seven, eight years, when you have a little bit of celebrity, like I do,

0:21:09 > 0:21:13you get asked to come and support different projects and one of the

0:21:13 > 0:21:17things that has kept coming up is this issue around household debt and

0:21:17 > 0:21:24high cost credit. I started to see it with friends and family members

0:21:24 > 0:21:28and the burden that is, the stress it puts on your health, your

0:21:28 > 0:21:33financial and mental and physical health, as I started to get more

0:21:33 > 0:21:37involved in this issue, I wanted to see if I could be effective, I did

0:21:37 > 0:21:40not want to just lend my name to something, I wanted to help people

0:21:40 > 0:21:44trying to help others to see if we could make a change.Let me read you

0:21:44 > 0:21:49this text message from one of our viewers, Jerome. Why do people buy

0:21:49 > 0:22:00things they do not

0:22:02 > 0:22:05need and cannot afford?I have not got a 50 inch TV, I could not afford

0:22:05 > 0:22:08one. It is not the shop's fault people are stupid. What we are

0:22:08 > 0:22:10seeing is people are having to go to high cost credit lenders to cover

0:22:10 > 0:22:14basic household cross. There was a report coming out saying that as of

0:22:14 > 0:22:17last year 1.4 million people are now using high cost credit just to cover

0:22:17 > 0:22:21basic household costs, up from 1.1 million the year before, it is on

0:22:21 > 0:22:27the rise. Since the 2008 crash, wage earnings have not been able to keep

0:22:27 > 0:22:31up with inflation, so the cost of living is getting higher and wages

0:22:31 > 0:22:34are not matching it, there is a squeeze for people and people are

0:22:34 > 0:22:48feeling it more and more.Is there anything wrong with this

0:22:48 > 0:22:51kind of of customers know the risks and charges?Credit can be a really

0:22:51 > 0:22:53good thing, the useful and necessary tool, if done responsibly unfairly.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56We try to plan on what is coming down the line, but sometimes the

0:22:56 > 0:22:59washing machine breaking down can cause a crisis, we have to have

0:22:59 > 0:23:03access to help when we need it, the problem is that if there are people

0:23:03 > 0:23:08who are looking out for that and preying on people when they are in

0:23:08 > 0:23:13difficulty, that seems unfair. There are alternatives but people do not

0:23:13 > 0:23:16know about them because they do not have the marketing budget is the big

0:23:16 > 0:23:20companies have so the point is to make sure people are aware they have

0:23:20 > 0:23:25other options but we have to support those options so they can take on

0:23:25 > 0:23:28these people.We did contact Brighthouse, one of the rent-to-own

0:23:28 > 0:23:33companies, they said they did not want to comment or appear on the

0:23:33 > 0:23:36programme, but they suggest they are offering something no one else is

0:23:36 > 0:23:42and it is a service.Yeah, we talk about things like APR which is

0:23:42 > 0:23:47essentially the cost of borrowing, and the companies that are, I would

0:23:47 > 0:23:51say, fairer, more responsible, the APR still looks relatively high,

0:23:51 > 0:23:56nowhere near as high as the more irresponsible companies, as I would

0:23:56 > 0:24:01say, but to bring the APR down, we have to support them, we have to

0:24:01 > 0:24:06give them a level playing field to compete because there is a gap in

0:24:06 > 0:24:10the market, as your film was saying, people do need help, it is just they

0:24:10 > 0:24:14are not as aware of the other companies.Are you providing in

0:24:14 > 0:24:21practical terms an alternative source of credit or are you simply

0:24:21 > 0:24:24promoting cheaper alternative providers of instant credit that

0:24:24 > 0:24:29already exist?We want to take a look at the entire sector, creating

0:24:29 > 0:24:36a fairer level playing field across the whole place and that is what Ed

0:24:36 > 0:24:39would support, I think, if you look at individual sections, it is hard

0:24:39 > 0:24:43to tackle, so you have to take a more holistic look and that is why

0:24:43 > 0:24:48the alliances working with regulators and policymakers and

0:24:48 > 0:24:51funders and think tanks and grant-making organisations to try to

0:24:51 > 0:24:56create a real shift in the financial landscape, not just to try to stop

0:24:56 > 0:25:02the worst practices but to support the better ones.You will be aware

0:25:02 > 0:25:07of sometimes cynicism that sometimes exists when high profile wealthy

0:25:07 > 0:25:10people like yourself get involved in issues like this, will you be

0:25:10 > 0:25:15putting some of your own money into this?The alliance so far has been

0:25:15 > 0:25:19funded by my own money, this is something... I am not an expert but

0:25:19 > 0:25:23I wanted to make sure people who are experts and have experience and

0:25:23 > 0:25:27resources come together and work together because this requires a lot

0:25:27 > 0:25:30of different things happening at the same time. What I found I can bring

0:25:30 > 0:25:37to the table as I can get people to sit in the same room together, that

0:25:37 > 0:25:43would not normally, even if it is just to sign a copy of Twilight and

0:25:43 > 0:25:46I have freedom and independence and I'm not looking for votes, I'm not

0:25:46 > 0:25:57getting paid, I can be more problematic about it and this is a

0:25:57 > 0:26:01cross-party politics, it is about a fairer deal -- I can be more

0:26:01 > 0:26:07pragmatic.Ed Miliband, this is what Brighthouse say, they serve

0:26:07 > 0:26:10low-income families excluded from mainstream credit, went to owners

0:26:10 > 0:26:14are very different proposition to other forms of we undertake

0:26:14 > 0:26:21extensive affordability assessment -- rent-to-own is a very different

0:26:21 > 0:26:25proposition.It is worth saying what has happened since I did the film.

0:26:25 > 0:26:30Since then, the FCO, the people in charge, they have find Brighthouse

0:26:30 > 0:26:33nearly £15 million and they have made them pay back money to

0:26:33 > 0:26:37customers because of the sharp practices, they said they were not

0:26:37 > 0:26:41responsible lenders. We have also seen some changes to Brighthouse's

0:26:41 > 0:26:46practices. One of the things I highlighted was the way they bundled

0:26:46 > 0:26:49together the so-called 5-star service they offered on the price

0:26:49 > 0:26:52and that has changed. The fundamental problem, Michael talked

0:26:52 > 0:26:58about this very well, you have got the most vulnerable people who do

0:26:58 > 0:27:05not have an alternative, they are paying £1500 for a sofa, £1200 for a

0:27:05 > 0:27:10television, paying over the odds, and Brighthouse's business model is

0:27:10 > 0:27:15based on that very high annual percentage rate, APR, 70%, often,

0:27:15 > 0:27:22and that is the problem. So I do not share Brighthouse's you, I think

0:27:22 > 0:27:26they are exploiting vulnerable people.But there are other mid-cost

0:27:26 > 0:27:31alternative credit providers as Michael explained, customers simply

0:27:31 > 0:27:35need to choose them.I do not think there is enough of the alternatives

0:27:35 > 0:27:39and that is why I think what Michael is doing is very important because

0:27:39 > 0:27:43he is trying to use his convening power, bringing people together, to

0:27:43 > 0:27:49try to get other financiers and people who care about these issues

0:27:49 > 0:27:53to support some of the credit unions, the not-for-profit

0:27:53 > 0:27:56alternatives. My constituency experience which is where I based

0:27:56 > 0:28:03the film is that this can be done at a much... In a sustainable way at a

0:28:03 > 0:28:06much lower cost. People who cannot afford the money upfront, you can

0:28:06 > 0:28:12find ways of lending them the money so that they can buy the cooker, the

0:28:12 > 0:28:17washing machine, the TV, and pay it back and it does not need to cost

0:28:17 > 0:28:22than double or three times the amount.A couple of messages, this

0:28:22 > 0:28:29from... I don't know, but anyway, it is on Twitter, they are doing what

0:28:29 > 0:28:33our government should be doing, campaigning to protect the most

0:28:33 > 0:28:37vulnerable in our society from extortionate high-cost credit. Jamie

0:28:37 > 0:28:40says, great campaign by Michael Sheen to end higher cost credit,

0:28:40 > 0:28:44people get sucked into a spiral and cannot get out while being preyed

0:28:44 > 0:28:49upon by big business. I will introduce Stacey, a mum of five, she

0:28:49 > 0:28:57has borrowed quite a bit of money over the years, can you hear me?

0:28:57 > 0:29:03Yeah. Thank you for coming on the programme. Tell us how much you

0:29:03 > 0:29:08think you have ended up borrowing from some of these companies.

0:29:08 > 0:29:17Thousands, to be fair.How many, do you know?Probably about four, five.

0:29:17 > 0:29:25What has it been like trying to pay the money back?It is a bit of a

0:29:25 > 0:29:29struggle but like people say, I borrow it, but it has only been for

0:29:29 > 0:29:33stuff we need, like washing machines, fridge freezer, if they

0:29:33 > 0:29:38break, we have not borrowed money like the text message said to get a

0:29:38 > 0:29:45big 50 inch TV.For you, would you describe it as a positive thing?It

0:29:45 > 0:29:51has, but if we had a bit more access to credit, but I checked my credit

0:29:51 > 0:29:55score regularly and my problem is at the minute because I have that much

0:29:55 > 0:30:01credit out, payments, I pay it all, all up to date, but because my

0:30:01 > 0:30:07credit, I have a lot of it, I cannot go and, say, get a loan to

0:30:07 > 0:30:12consolidate my credit because they will not let me have it. Understood.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15And what do you think from what you have heard of Michael Sheen's

0:30:15 > 0:30:20campaign?

0:30:20 > 0:30:24I think it is brilliant. There is an alternative to BrightHouse. The

0:30:24 > 0:30:29thing I like about BrightHouse, I got two of my children refurbished

0:30:29 > 0:30:32laptops from them not long ago. We could have got these outright

0:30:32 > 0:30:37because they did not cost that much, but one reason we did not because of

0:30:37 > 0:30:42the insurance they give with that, anything happens they -- you can

0:30:42 > 0:30:46take it back and they will sort it. Which was really good because one of

0:30:46 > 0:30:49my twins decided to put a whole bottle of lemonade over my

0:30:49 > 0:30:56daughter's laptop.How much was the insurance?To be fair, I don't

0:30:56 > 0:31:01actually know. I have it written down. It is only about two or £3 a

0:31:01 > 0:31:05week, not a huge amount, but it is handy to have.

0:31:05 > 0:31:09Thank you very much for coming on the programme, Stacey booth, mum of

0:31:09 > 0:31:14five, who has had a positive experience. Thank you to Ed Miliband

0:31:14 > 0:31:19and Michael Sheen. Before you go, Ed Miliband, you would expect me to ask

0:31:19 > 0:31:24you about Jeremy Corbyn and Russia. Mr Corbyn has given an interview to

0:31:24 > 0:31:28our colleagues on Radio 4 today. I will give you a quote from it if I

0:31:28 > 0:31:34may. He tells The World At One that the UK must still deal with Russia,

0:31:34 > 0:31:46despite all fingers pointing to it over

0:31:48 > 0:31:51the Salisbury spy attack. Is he right?Of course we will have to

0:31:51 > 0:31:54deal with them. I was not in the House of Commons when he responded

0:31:54 > 0:31:57to Theresa May but I read his piece he wrote about this. He said the

0:31:57 > 0:31:59evidence pointed to Russia, he backed expelling the diplomats but

0:31:59 > 0:32:01you need to be calm and level-headed. It is very serious

0:32:01 > 0:32:03what Russia did, very serious indeed and has to be taken incredibly

0:32:03 > 0:32:06seriously by the British Government, of course we will have to deal with

0:32:06 > 0:32:09them. Did Jeremy Corbyn misjudge the

0:32:09 > 0:32:14public mood?I don't think so. He was approaching it in his own way,

0:32:14 > 0:32:18saying you need to be calm and measured. I think you need calm and

0:32:18 > 0:32:22measured leaderships.A couple more comments regarding payday loan at

0:32:22 > 0:32:25rent to own, Caven said I bought a corner suite from one when I moved

0:32:25 > 0:32:31to a new house, paying £100 a month. I lost my job after 12 months and

0:32:31 > 0:32:35could not pay, the company took it away and we lost all our money.

0:32:35 > 0:32:41Peter says I'm sure Michael Sheen has the best intentions but

0:32:41 > 0:32:43involving himself in competing with established businesses very

0:32:43 > 0:32:48experienced in risk management is doomed to cost the current backers.

0:32:48 > 0:32:51Helen says Michael Sheen being brilliant on exploitative credit

0:32:51 > 0:32:59like BrightHouse with Ed Miliband this morning. It says why is Ed

0:32:59 > 0:33:02Miliband saying poor people don't have an alternative, what about

0:33:02 > 0:33:08credit unions?That is right, but we need people to know about the credit

0:33:08 > 0:33:14unions. I spoke to my own credit union this morning and they need

0:33:14 > 0:33:18more help and support. My credit union is restarting its business,

0:33:18 > 0:33:24offering people an alternative to BrightHouse. We hope it succeeds.

0:33:24 > 0:33:27But the credit union sector in this country does less well than in

0:33:27 > 0:33:32others. We need more backing for that from Government, the Financial

0:33:32 > 0:33:35Conduct Authority, it is very complex for credit unions to offer

0:33:35 > 0:33:39this service. And I think the banks could do a lot more to stand by and

0:33:39 > 0:33:44support the work of credit unions. Thank you very much.

0:33:44 > 0:33:45Still to come...

0:33:45 > 0:33:48Loosing your hair in your 20s and the impact it can have.

0:33:48 > 0:33:54A 23-year-old woman who wears a wig has been investigating for us.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58And on the brink of extinction - only 2 white rhinos remain

0:33:58 > 0:34:01after the world's last male species died, we'll look at what that

0:34:01 > 0:34:07means for the species.

0:34:07 > 0:34:11Time for the latest news - here's Annita.

0:34:11 > 0:34:15The BBC News headlines this morning...

0:34:15 > 0:34:18A British company accused of misusing personal data

0:34:18 > 0:34:20belonging to 50 million Facebook users is being investigated

0:34:20 > 0:34:21by the information watchdog.

0:34:21 > 0:34:24The UK's Information Commissioner says she will seek a warrant to look

0:34:24 > 0:34:28at databases and servers hosted by Cambridge Analytica.

0:34:28 > 0:34:31The firm is accused of using facebook data without consent

0:34:31 > 0:34:33to influence the outcome of the last US election.

0:34:33 > 0:34:41Both Cambridge Analytica and Facebook deny any wrongdoing.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48Meanwhile Cambridge Analytica executives have been filmed by

0:34:48 > 0:34:52Channel 4 News suggesting it could use honey traps and potentially

0:34:52 > 0:35:00bribery to discredit politicians. The company denies any wrongdoing.

0:35:22 > 0:35:25Jeremy Corbyn says the UK must still deal with Vladimir Putin despite

0:35:25 > 0:35:27evidence pointing to his country's involvement in the Salisbury spy

0:35:27 > 0:35:30attack.

0:35:30 > 0:35:32The Labour leader said he would do business with Russia but

0:35:32 > 0:35:36assertively and on the basis of UK values.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell says he believes Putin was

0:35:38 > 0:35:41responsible but Mr Corbyn said he wanted an absolutely definitive

0:35:41 > 0:35:47answer about the source of the nerve agent.

0:35:47 > 0:35:48The former French president Nicolas Sarkozy

0:35:48 > 0:35:51is being held in police custody in connection with an investigation

0:35:51 > 0:35:54into campaign funding.

0:35:54 > 0:35:57Police are investigating alleged irregularities over

0:35:57 > 0:36:02the financing of his 2007 presidential campaign.

0:36:02 > 0:36:04He is being questioned over allegations that he received funding

0:36:04 > 0:36:12from the late Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi.

0:36:13 > 0:36:18That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

0:36:18 > 0:36:22We will go straight to Paris and speak to Hugh Schofield. Tell us

0:36:22 > 0:36:27more about the fact that the former French president is being

0:36:27 > 0:36:33questioned?This investigation goes back many, many years. We're talking

0:36:33 > 0:36:38about the 2006/7 campaign which led Sarkozy to victory, an investigation

0:36:38 > 0:36:43opened by judges in 2013. French justice grind exceedingly slow. It

0:36:43 > 0:36:48has to be said that the fact that Sarkozy has been brought in for

0:36:48 > 0:36:54obligatory questioning and been held for 48 hours by the investigating

0:36:54 > 0:36:56police in this affair suggests that the magistrates have been honoured

0:36:56 > 0:37:00for so long and they feel they are getting closer to the nub of the

0:37:00 > 0:37:05affair. It could end up at the end of the 24, 48-hour period where he

0:37:05 > 0:37:10has been held, that he will be placed under a judicial

0:37:10 > 0:37:14investigation, meaning a probable trial. It is very bad news the

0:37:14 > 0:37:19Nicolas Sarkozy. This allegation has swarmed around for years and many of

0:37:19 > 0:37:24us, myself included, treated with a huge amount of caution. Libyan money

0:37:24 > 0:37:27funding a French presidential election campaign, it sounded far

0:37:27 > 0:37:32too unlikely to be true. It lends an enormous amount of credence to the

0:37:32 > 0:37:35very allegation which some people have pushed, they say they have had

0:37:35 > 0:37:39evidence for for some years, the idea being that back then Sarkozy

0:37:39 > 0:37:46said I have to have a big blitz of a campaign, take French politics to a

0:37:46 > 0:37:50new level, American-style levels of razzmatazz. He cultivated through

0:37:50 > 0:37:55various contacts Colonel Gaddafi and got this money, 50 million euros.

0:37:55 > 0:38:00Into context, if you remember back then, quite shortly after being

0:38:00 > 0:38:04elected, who did a state visit, a very unusual state visit, parking

0:38:04 > 0:38:09his tent on the lawn? Colonel Gaddafi. There is a lot of murk,

0:38:09 > 0:38:14part of the problem has been that lots of the witnesses are by

0:38:14 > 0:38:16definition almost totally unreliable, which has allowed the

0:38:16 > 0:38:22Sarkozy camp to say the allegations have been put up by people trying to

0:38:22 > 0:38:25create smoke screens, but if the judges getting closer to the truth

0:38:25 > 0:38:30and the truth is that money was coming into the Sarkozy campaign, it

0:38:30 > 0:38:35casts a very great shadow over the whole Sarkozy legacy.Thank you,

0:38:35 > 0:38:38Hugh Schofield. Jessica has the latest sport.

0:38:38 > 0:38:40Should Serena Williams' world ranking be protected?

0:38:40 > 0:38:42The tournament director of the Miami Open, James Blake, thinks

0:38:42 > 0:38:45so and describes the current seeding rules as punishment

0:38:45 > 0:38:48for women that return to tennis after having a baby.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52The fallout from England's dismal Six Nations campaign continues.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54Former England player Jeremy Guscott says the team haven't made any

0:38:54 > 0:38:57progress in the past year.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00Not since 2006 have they lost three matches in a single

0:39:00 > 0:39:04Six Nations campaign.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07England are still waiting on the fitness of all-rounder Ben

0:39:07 > 0:39:10Stokes ahead of Thursday's first Test against New Zealand.

0:39:10 > 0:39:15The ECB say he's on track to play his first Test in six months.

0:39:15 > 0:39:21Craig Overton has told the BBC he'll be ready to step in if needed.

0:39:21 > 0:39:23South Africa's Kagiso Rabada is available to play

0:39:23 > 0:39:27in South Africa's final two Tests against Australia.

0:39:27 > 0:39:30The seamer had been banned for bad behaviour in an ill-tempered series

0:39:30 > 0:39:38but has had the punishment reduced on appeal.

0:39:40 > 0:39:43That is all your sport, I will be back with a full bulletin at just

0:39:43 > 0:39:52after 10am.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54Next, losing your hair when you're young

0:39:54 > 0:39:57and the impact it can have on you, especially if you're in your 20s.

0:39:57 > 0:40:00Chedira Eggerue is 23 and wears a wig to hide her bald patch.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03She's been talking to other people about their own hairloss

0:40:03 > 0:40:04for Radio 1's Newsbeat.

0:40:04 > 0:40:06It shows some graphic images of hair transplants.

0:40:06 > 0:40:07Hair is a big part of us.

0:40:07 > 0:40:11It shows off our style, identity and lets us change up our look.

0:40:11 > 0:40:13It's the thing that can make us feel beautiful.

0:40:13 > 0:40:15But we won't all keep our hair forever.

0:40:15 > 0:40:21Some of us are going to lose it.

0:40:21 > 0:40:23People have always gone bald, and they've tried lots of strange

0:40:23 > 0:40:27ways to hide it or stop it falling out.

0:40:27 > 0:40:31But some techniques work better than others.

0:40:31 > 0:40:36My name is Chedira, I'm 23 and most people don't know this is a wig.

0:40:36 > 0:40:39There a massive bald patch right here, and that's pretty much

0:40:39 > 0:40:41what I've been hiding underneath this the whole time.

0:40:41 > 0:40:43My hair loss gets to me.

0:40:43 > 0:40:44And it's something that obsesses other women

0:40:44 > 0:40:48and loads of young men too.

0:40:48 > 0:40:50I'm going to meet others who are losing their hair,

0:40:50 > 0:40:55and some who are going to extreme lengths to get it back.

0:40:55 > 0:40:59I'm going only as deep as we need to go, which is where the roots start.

0:40:59 > 0:41:02I'll find out about my own hair loss, and discover whether you can

0:41:02 > 0:41:04ever feel good about it.

0:41:04 > 0:41:07Because it doesn't matter how rich and famous you are,

0:41:07 > 0:41:13you can't hide from hair loss.

0:41:14 > 0:41:16When I wear this, it's almost like a hat that's

0:41:16 > 0:41:17measured to your head.

0:41:17 > 0:41:18It's got an elastic band.

0:41:18 > 0:41:21So I wear this and it doesn't disturb my hairline at all.

0:41:21 > 0:41:26My hairline remains as it is underneath.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30It's really easy to put on, but also really easy to remove as well.

0:41:30 > 0:41:31So I'm going to remove it.

0:41:31 > 0:41:32It looks bad.

0:41:32 > 0:41:34That's the word I'd use.

0:41:34 > 0:41:35It looks bad.

0:41:35 > 0:41:38My definition of bad is just patchy.

0:41:38 > 0:41:40So patchy and annoying.

0:41:40 > 0:41:43To a lot of people that doesn't look too bad, they might say.

0:41:43 > 0:41:44Yeah.

0:41:44 > 0:41:47Even to me, on some days, it doesn't look as bad.

0:41:47 > 0:41:50But then other days it's like, oh my goodness, this is so obvious.

0:41:50 > 0:41:54So this hairstyle is pretty much what took away my hairline.

0:41:54 > 0:41:57You can see the extensions are quite thick and heavy.

0:41:57 > 0:42:00And then, as if that wasn't enough, I went and tied it up

0:42:00 > 0:42:01into an enormous bun.

0:42:01 > 0:42:05And what happens is when you have your hair in a heavy bun like that,

0:42:05 > 0:42:07each time you move your head, the bun sways.

0:42:07 > 0:42:11So each time that's where it happens, a bit of hair falls out.

0:42:11 > 0:42:15I would never wear my hair upwards or in an Afro without covering it.

0:42:15 > 0:42:18No one sees this.

0:42:18 > 0:42:21I wouldn't go out on the street - no one on the street

0:42:21 > 0:42:25sees it like this.

0:42:25 > 0:42:27I always cover my bald patch when I'm out,

0:42:27 > 0:42:29by wearing a wig or a hat.

0:42:29 > 0:42:34But it's not so easy for guys to hide their hair loss.

0:42:34 > 0:42:35Perry is 23, and first started losing his hair

0:42:35 > 0:42:37when he was a teenager.

0:42:37 > 0:42:38Hello, everyone.

0:42:38 > 0:42:44My name is Perry and this is Perry Presents.

0:42:44 > 0:42:46He has male pattern baldness, by far the most common form

0:42:46 > 0:42:49of hair loss in men.

0:42:49 > 0:42:51So at times like this, what do you do?

0:42:51 > 0:42:54So I get my phone.

0:42:54 > 0:42:56And obviously I will look like a mirror.

0:42:56 > 0:42:58OK, so you put your phone and camera?

0:42:58 > 0:42:59Yeah.

0:42:59 > 0:43:02And then I'll check it a bit.

0:43:02 > 0:43:04And obviously you can see now - really bad, right?

0:43:04 > 0:43:05Yeah.

0:43:05 > 0:43:07And the wind makes it worse.

0:43:07 > 0:43:08So I have my brush.

0:43:08 > 0:43:12Basically just do the same thing again, restyle it.

0:43:12 > 0:43:17But to be honest with you, in the wind, it's just life.

0:43:17 > 0:43:20And until I get indoors, that's just the way it is.

0:43:20 > 0:43:22Tidies it up and we'll take another selfie.

0:43:22 > 0:43:24Love it!

0:43:24 > 0:43:25There you go.

0:43:25 > 0:43:27Speaking about it being just life, how are you preparing yourself

0:43:27 > 0:43:34for it becoming more and more obvious?

0:43:34 > 0:43:38I've kind of got to embrace it, but at the same time it is quite

0:43:38 > 0:43:40scary, because I'm like, will people think differently of me?

0:43:40 > 0:43:42Will it look really bad?

0:43:42 > 0:43:45Do you feel like your hair, to an extent, holds a core part

0:43:45 > 0:43:50of your sort of personality and who you are?

0:43:50 > 0:43:52Yeah.

0:43:52 > 0:43:55My hair is me, that's how I feel.

0:43:55 > 0:43:57My personality, whatever I do on YouTube, whatever

0:43:57 > 0:44:03I do in everyday life, it's always there and it's something

0:44:03 > 0:44:04that I'm so self-conscious of.

0:44:04 > 0:44:07If my hair is gone, I feel like I'm becoming someone else,

0:44:07 > 0:44:08or someone different.

0:44:08 > 0:44:11I guess it's a good thing if you are being different.

0:44:11 > 0:44:14But at the same time it's a worry, because what if someone

0:44:14 > 0:44:15thinks differently of me?

0:44:15 > 0:44:17What if someone isn't attracted to me or likes me,

0:44:17 > 0:44:19or I don't look good, as such?

0:44:19 > 0:44:20You know what I mean?

0:44:20 > 0:44:23I can tell Perry has thought about his hair loss a lot,

0:44:23 > 0:44:26and worries about what he will look like in the future.

0:44:26 > 0:44:30His dad lost his hair when he was young and is now completely bald.

0:44:30 > 0:44:33In most men it will never grow back.

0:44:33 > 0:44:36But there are ways to sort it out.

0:44:36 > 0:44:39I'm in Manchester to see a 28-year-old guy who is having

0:44:39 > 0:44:41a hair transplant today.

0:44:41 > 0:44:43And I'll be meeting the surgeon who is doing it.

0:44:43 > 0:44:48I'm really excited to see how this is going to happen.

0:44:48 > 0:44:49I'm Chedira.

0:44:49 > 0:44:51Nice to meet you.

0:44:51 > 0:44:54Jordan started losing his hair when he was 20.

0:44:54 > 0:44:57And this doctor has been carrying out hair

0:44:57 > 0:45:01transplants since the 1990s.

0:45:01 > 0:45:04Straighten your shoulders and turn your neck all the way around.

0:45:04 > 0:45:07You're not particularly bothered about bringing your hairline down,

0:45:07 > 0:45:09you want to have more density here.

0:45:09 > 0:45:13It's going to give you the look that you want.

0:45:13 > 0:45:16The plan is to take hair from the back of Jordan's head

0:45:16 > 0:45:19and plant it in the thin areas on top.

0:45:19 > 0:45:20I'm not going to lie.

0:45:20 > 0:45:23First impression, I feel like your hair loss is actually not

0:45:23 > 0:45:24even that bad at all.

0:45:24 > 0:45:26How do you feel about it?

0:45:26 > 0:45:28How does it look to you?

0:45:28 > 0:45:30Like you say, it's not too bad.

0:45:30 > 0:45:32But it's a weird one really.

0:45:32 > 0:45:34Obviously it affects so many men.

0:45:34 > 0:45:37Should it upset you?

0:45:37 > 0:45:39It wasn't the worst feeling, but also it knocks confidence

0:45:39 > 0:45:42a little bit as well.

0:45:42 > 0:45:45Someone might look at me and say, you're having a hair transplant,

0:45:45 > 0:45:46do you really need it?

0:45:46 > 0:45:48In some cases you might say no.

0:45:48 > 0:45:53It's how it makes you feel, I guess.

0:45:53 > 0:45:55Jordan's transplant will take all day.

0:45:55 > 0:45:57The procedure is becoming increasingly popular,

0:45:57 > 0:46:04but it isn't normally available on the NHS.

0:46:04 > 0:46:07It can cost anywhere between £1000 and £30,000.

0:46:07 > 0:46:12The doctor will make small holes in the top of Jordan's head.

0:46:12 > 0:46:15He'll then take healthy hairs from the back to plant

0:46:15 > 0:46:20in the thin areas on top.

0:46:20 > 0:46:24So I'm going only as deep as we need to go, which is where the roots sit,

0:46:24 > 0:46:25approximately about four millimetres inside the skin.

0:46:25 > 0:46:27Jordan just looks so chilled out.

0:46:27 > 0:46:31Honestly, it's really painless.

0:46:31 > 0:46:33They said before that it wouldn't be as bad as the dentist.

0:46:33 > 0:46:38It definitely isn't.

0:46:38 > 0:46:40We'll turn Jordan over, face down, and then we'll start removing

0:46:40 > 0:46:44the grafts from the back of his head.

0:46:44 > 0:46:47And then once we have a certain amount, we then can put

0:46:47 > 0:46:51them back in, yeah?

0:46:51 > 0:46:54During the procedure, around 3000 hairs will be inserted

0:46:54 > 0:46:57in the top of Jordan's head.

0:46:57 > 0:47:00What's it going to feel like when you finally get up

0:47:00 > 0:47:03and have a look at your hair?

0:47:03 > 0:47:05It's a long road to see what is going to be,

0:47:05 > 0:47:06but good, hopefully.

0:47:06 > 0:47:09It'll take a long time to see if Jordan's hair

0:47:09 > 0:47:11transplant has been a success.

0:47:11 > 0:47:14But for an idea of what the results might look like, I'm meeting a woman

0:47:14 > 0:47:20who has had it done already.

0:47:20 > 0:47:24Page had a hair transplant a few months ago.

0:47:24 > 0:47:30She told her YouTube followers all about it.

0:47:30 > 0:47:31There is like no hair.

0:47:31 > 0:47:34There's like really, really small strands of hair.

0:47:34 > 0:47:38Her hair loss was down to traction alopecia.

0:47:38 > 0:47:40It's when your hairstyle creates tension on your scalp.

0:47:40 > 0:47:42For example, tight braids or corn rows.

0:47:42 > 0:47:43It's what's caused my own hair loss.

0:47:43 > 0:47:45My forehead probably started like here.

0:47:45 > 0:47:47No way - you've got a new forehead!

0:47:47 > 0:47:49I've got a new forehead.

0:47:49 > 0:47:50What?!

0:47:50 > 0:47:51It looks so natural.

0:47:51 > 0:47:54Yeah.

0:47:54 > 0:47:55Where exactly was the initial hair loss?

0:47:55 > 0:47:56On this side here.

0:47:56 > 0:47:59As you can see, there are still some hairs.

0:47:59 > 0:48:00I've kind of like brushed it down.

0:48:00 > 0:48:02But all on this side.

0:48:02 > 0:48:07It was literally this whole section up to like my ear.

0:48:07 > 0:48:10What does it feel like when you look at it and see that is

0:48:10 > 0:48:14clearly missing hair?

0:48:14 > 0:48:16What did it make you feel?

0:48:16 > 0:48:17Do you know what?

0:48:17 > 0:48:20I felt very like self-conscious but I never told anybody.

0:48:20 > 0:48:21I never told anybody my insecurities.

0:48:21 > 0:48:23Not a single person knew about it?

0:48:23 > 0:48:24No one actually knew, you know.

0:48:24 > 0:48:28I felt like I was the only person in the world going through this,

0:48:28 > 0:48:29apart from the people on YouTube.

0:48:29 > 0:48:30In the real world.

0:48:30 > 0:48:34Yeah, in this real world, so that's why I never spoke about it.

0:48:34 > 0:48:36Otherwise I would have spoke about it sooner.

0:48:36 > 0:48:38And I wish I'd spoke about it sooner.

0:48:38 > 0:48:40I wish I'd spoke about it when it was first happening.

0:48:40 > 0:48:44I wish I was more open about it.

0:48:44 > 0:48:46I thought, I'm too young for hair loss.

0:48:46 > 0:48:47I've just turned 25.

0:48:47 > 0:48:48I've been experiencing this since college.

0:48:48 > 0:48:51I'm way too young to be losing my hair.

0:48:51 > 0:48:52I feel like I was robbed.

0:48:52 > 0:48:53And now you've reclaimed it!

0:48:53 > 0:48:57Yeah.

0:48:57 > 0:48:59Your hair, your face - it's beauty, especially to a female.

0:48:59 > 0:49:07And to guys, yeah, hair is a big thing.

0:49:09 > 0:49:12I know a lot of females probably only find guys attractive, not just

0:49:12 > 0:49:14because of the hairline, but their hairline is attractive.

0:49:14 > 0:49:16When a man has got full hair, it's attractive.

0:49:16 > 0:49:19Cutting all my hair and getting a hair transplant, I have

0:49:19 > 0:49:20so much more confidence.

0:49:20 > 0:49:21I feel very empowered now.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24I feel like sharing my story was probably the biggest

0:49:24 > 0:49:26thing I've ever done, and probably the biggest

0:49:26 > 0:49:27thing I ever will do.

0:49:27 > 0:49:33I've got to admit, hair transplants feel quite extreme to me.

0:49:33 > 0:49:36I've tried looking online for a solution for my bald patch.

0:49:36 > 0:49:37But it's all very confusing.

0:49:37 > 0:49:40It looks like there are hundreds of different techniques to try.

0:49:40 > 0:49:43So it's time to speak to someone who really knows about hair loss.

0:49:43 > 0:49:44Nice to see you.

0:49:44 > 0:49:47Ian is an expert who helps people understand why

0:49:47 > 0:49:52they are losing their hair.

0:49:52 > 0:49:5495% of men, there is, well, not major issues,

0:49:54 > 0:50:02but there are issues with genetic predisposition.

0:50:03 > 0:50:06Genetic hair loss can be from the male or the female side.

0:50:06 > 0:50:08It doesn't have to come through the male side

0:50:08 > 0:50:09or the female side.

0:50:09 > 0:50:10So it's non-sex linked.

0:50:10 > 0:50:12They will come in and they will be looking at hairlines

0:50:12 > 0:50:14going, this has moved.

0:50:14 > 0:50:16And yes, from 16 to your mid-20s, your hairline does move.

0:50:16 > 0:50:17It does change.

0:50:17 > 0:50:19You get a mature hairline.

0:50:19 > 0:50:21But then there is change over and above what it should.

0:50:21 > 0:50:24So if you're starting to become thin there and everything else is normal,

0:50:24 > 0:50:26that's usually genetic.

0:50:26 > 0:50:28Ian says there are only two medications that can

0:50:28 > 0:50:29help with hair loss.

0:50:29 > 0:50:33Finasteride and minoxidil.

0:50:33 > 0:50:36The NHS says women shouldn't use finasteride and neither drug

0:50:36 > 0:50:42is available on the National Health Service.

0:50:42 > 0:50:44So when you start taking this medication, it allows

0:50:44 > 0:50:46the hair in some cases to respond quite significantly.

0:50:46 > 0:50:48It may grow hair density back.

0:50:48 > 0:50:51I've heard though that with medications like minoxidil,

0:50:51 > 0:50:54once you start using it, you've got to keep using it if you

0:50:54 > 0:50:56want to keep seeing hair growth.

0:50:56 > 0:50:57Is that true?

0:50:57 > 0:50:59Or can you use it just once and that it?

0:50:59 > 0:51:02So you do have to keep taking this medication day after day after day.

0:51:02 > 0:51:04It's a treadmill medication.

0:51:04 > 0:51:07So there's no such thing as a one-shot thing that will just

0:51:07 > 0:51:08get rid of hair loss.

0:51:08 > 0:51:11Hair loss can also be caused by stress, weight loss, cancer

0:51:11 > 0:51:12treatment or an unhealthy diet.

0:51:12 > 0:51:16In some cases, your immune system can attack your hair follicles.

0:51:16 > 0:51:22That's what is known as alopecia areata.

0:51:22 > 0:51:25I first noticed my hair loss when I was about 19.

0:51:25 > 0:51:27Do you want to see what it looks like?

0:51:27 > 0:51:28Sure.

0:51:28 > 0:51:31This is a wig, and I hide behind this all the time.

0:51:31 > 0:51:37As you can see, I've got braids, got lots of hair on my head,

0:51:37 > 0:51:39but there's clearly a lot missing here.

0:51:39 > 0:51:42This is classed as a diffuse thinning around here.

0:51:42 > 0:51:45It does look as though the follicles have what's called atrophied,

0:51:45 > 0:51:47which means some follicles have died off.

0:51:47 > 0:51:49If you've cared for your hair over a period of time

0:51:49 > 0:51:51and it hasn't returned, then the likelihood

0:51:51 > 0:51:54is it's permanent.

0:51:54 > 0:51:58Most people hate hearing that.

0:51:58 > 0:52:01I didn't want to accept that my hair is not going to grow back.

0:52:01 > 0:52:04So I've tried all kinds of weird things I came

0:52:04 > 0:52:08across on the internet.

0:52:08 > 0:52:11Apparently, if you bend all the way down and massage your head

0:52:11 > 0:52:13for like a minute in castor oil, it will apparently make

0:52:13 > 0:52:14your hair grow quicker.

0:52:14 > 0:52:15It did not work.

0:52:15 > 0:52:18There is Egyptian texts from 2000 BC that are remedies

0:52:18 > 0:52:24and prayers for hair loss.

0:52:24 > 0:52:29If there was something natural out there, we would know about it.

0:52:29 > 0:52:30Thank you, Ian.

0:52:30 > 0:52:31I've learned so much.

0:52:31 > 0:52:35No problem.

0:52:35 > 0:52:40You know what, hearing that my hair loss is at a permanent stage,

0:52:40 > 0:52:44I'm not going to lie, it's super disappointing.

0:52:44 > 0:52:48Even though I did know somewhere at the back of my mind that it's

0:52:48 > 0:52:49not going to grow back.

0:52:49 > 0:52:52But I really hoped I'd be told that if I just used this one

0:52:52 > 0:52:54thing, it would grow back.

0:52:54 > 0:52:56But now that I know, I guess I've got closure,

0:52:56 > 0:53:00and what I'm going to do now is just embrace it and accept it.

0:53:00 > 0:53:02I've met some really interesting people recently,

0:53:02 > 0:53:07who all have different ways of dealing with their hair loss.

0:53:07 > 0:53:10You're in the studio with your full natural hair out, looking amazing.

0:53:10 > 0:53:12Let's talk about it.

0:53:12 > 0:53:15A month ago, I would never have even left the house

0:53:15 > 0:53:17without covering my head, but that's now changed.

0:53:17 > 0:53:20Today I've decided I'm going to come in without a wig

0:53:20 > 0:53:23on and allow my head to breathe, allow myself to feel worthy.

0:53:23 > 0:53:24You look amazing.

0:53:24 > 0:53:31Hair loss is a massive deal to people.

0:53:31 > 0:53:34And since filming this, I've seen people who have hidden it,

0:53:34 > 0:53:36I've seen people who have treated it, I've seen people

0:53:36 > 0:53:39who have embraced it.

0:53:39 > 0:53:41Now for me this process has definitely taught

0:53:41 > 0:53:42me to just accept it.

0:53:42 > 0:53:44Since then I've started going out with my natural

0:53:44 > 0:53:47hair a lot more often, and learned to make

0:53:47 > 0:53:48peace with my hair loss.

0:53:48 > 0:53:56And now I just feel liberated.

0:54:18 > 0:54:20And you can watch a full version of Radio 1 Newsbeat's

0:54:20 > 0:54:28documentary, Too Young To Go Bald, on the BBC iPlayer.

0:54:28 > 0:54:34Thank you for your messages. Graham says, I lost my hair suddenly at 29,

0:54:34 > 0:54:40it was alopecia with bald patches appearing on my head, and soon I was

0:54:40 > 0:54:46completely bald and eventually her less. I'm 47 now and fine with it

0:54:46 > 0:54:50but at the time it was very distressing. Everything I read about

0:54:50 > 0:54:55coping with alopecia was written by women and started with the words, it

0:54:55 > 0:55:01is OK for men. It did not feel OK to me, I felt like I was falling apart.

0:55:01 > 0:55:07Paul says the easiest answer is the number one shave, he says he started

0:55:07 > 0:55:12losing his hair at 13. This woman says, I am in my 70s, just as

0:55:12 > 0:55:16devastating to lose your hair at that time of life, age matters not.

0:55:16 > 0:55:21I am so embarrassed I cannot go out without wearing a hat. We will talk

0:55:21 > 0:55:26more about this issue in the next hour. Send us your own experiences.

0:55:26 > 0:55:30Breaking news on the latest inflation figures. Our economics

0:55:30 > 0:55:36editor is here.Remind us what inflation is. It is the increase in

0:55:36 > 0:55:42prices, what people are spending to buy things in shops and the bills

0:55:42 > 0:55:45and today quite a significant reduction in the rate of increase,

0:55:45 > 0:55:52not that prices are falling, inflation was up 3%, the Office for

0:55:52 > 0:55:56National Statistics has announced it has gone down to 2.7%. It means

0:55:56 > 0:56:02prices are rising less quickly than they were. The main reasons of food

0:56:02 > 0:56:07prices are going up less quickly, fuel prices going up less quickly

0:56:07 > 0:56:10than a year ago, a locked link to the value of the pound because we

0:56:10 > 0:56:16import a lot of what we buy, a weak pound after the Brexit referendum

0:56:16 > 0:56:20and the costs went up, the pound has been strengthening, meaning the

0:56:20 > 0:56:24imports are less expensive and it is feeding through now to people's real

0:56:24 > 0:56:29lives. Good news that prices are not going up as fast as they were.And a

0:56:29 > 0:56:35report out today again talking about prices but post-Brexit from the

0:56:35 > 0:56:39Institute for Fiscal Studies.They are saying that once Britain is out

0:56:39 > 0:56:42of the customs union, the customs union has import taxes around the

0:56:42 > 0:56:51border, if we abandon old Paris, all the import taxes, that could lead to

0:56:51 > 0:56:56a small reduction in prices for people, about 1.2%. -- if we abandon

0:56:56 > 0:57:03tariffs. The IFS points out prices have ready by 2% because of the fall

0:57:03 > 0:57:07in the value of sterling and the cost of doing business with the EU

0:57:07 > 0:57:12will be more expensive once we are out of the customs union, so

0:57:12 > 0:57:15although abandoning import taxes would be good for consumers in a

0:57:15 > 0:57:19small way, that good will be outweighed by the cost of inflation

0:57:19 > 0:57:23we have seen since the referendum and the cost of doing business with

0:57:23 > 0:57:29the EU which is our biggest export partner.Thank you very much. The

0:57:29 > 0:57:33latest news and sport in a moment, before that, the weather.

0:57:33 > 0:57:37latest news and sport in a moment, before that, the weather. Not as

0:57:37 > 0:57:41cold a start to the day as of late. The forecast is less cold than it

0:57:41 > 0:57:46has been and for many of us, sunny spells, but also cloud in the

0:57:46 > 0:57:51forecast, quite a bit at the moment across parts of England and Wales,

0:57:51 > 0:57:55eastern Scotland as well, courtesy of the weak weather front drifting

0:57:55 > 0:57:59steadily west through the day, continuing to weaken, but it will

0:57:59 > 0:58:03still be thick enough, the cloud, to produce patchy light rain and

0:58:03 > 0:58:08drizzle. You can see the extent of the cloud cover, out in the

0:58:08 > 0:58:12Atlantic, a weather front waiting to come our way, that will be later

0:58:12 > 0:58:16today, producing some rain by the end of tonight. This morning, as the

0:58:16 > 0:58:21front pushes to the west, it will brighten up behind it, across East

0:58:21 > 0:58:24Anglia, the south-east, Southern counties, but also across Wales,

0:58:24 > 0:58:28north-west England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, you can expect

0:58:28 > 0:58:32some sunshine. Temperatures around eight up to ten, if we are lucky.

0:58:32 > 0:58:36You can already see the cloud thickening across the Outer

0:58:36 > 0:58:41Hebrides. This evening and overnight, the weather front proved

0:58:41 > 0:58:45tee edges in over Northern Ireland, Scotland and northern England -- the

0:58:45 > 0:58:48weather front edges in. Train will arrive by the end of the night. For

0:58:48 > 0:58:53the rest of England and Wales, a cold night and clearer skies. There

0:58:53 > 0:58:57could be patchy freezing fog and there will also be a widespread

0:58:57 > 0:59:06frost. These temperatures represent towns and cities. As we head into

0:59:06 > 0:59:18Wednesday, look how the blues our place to buy

0:59:19 > 0:59:24place to buy yellow, and -- to blues are replaced by yellow. Tomorrow,

0:59:24 > 0:59:29sunshine over England and Wales. The weather from producing cloud ahead

0:59:29 > 0:59:33of the rain, the rain crossing Northern Ireland and Scotland

0:59:33 > 0:59:37through the day. 11 in Aberdeen, a while since we have seen that. As we

0:59:37 > 0:59:44move into Thursday, the weather front continues to push into the

0:59:44 > 0:59:47Southeast, eventually clearing, a lot of dry weather, sunshine and

0:59:47 > 0:59:52East hanging on for the longest, because in the West and active

0:59:52 > 0:59:57weather front is coming our way, heavy rain across Northern Ireland,

0:59:57 > 1:00:00Scotland, eventually parts of West Wales and the south-west. The cloud

1:00:00 > 1:00:06building ahead of it. Look at the temperatures. Nine up to 12,

1:00:06 > 1:00:10possibly even 13.

1:00:10 > 1:00:15Hello, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

1:00:16 > 1:00:17Welcome to the programme.

1:00:17 > 1:00:20Honey traps, spies and fake news - just some of the dirty tricks

1:00:20 > 1:00:22Cambridge Analytica executives boasted of using to swing elections

1:00:22 > 1:00:30to an undercover reporter.

1:00:30 > 1:00:38Deep digging is interesting, it can be deeply effective to just go and

1:00:38 > 1:00:46speak to the incumbents and to offer them a deal that is too good to be

1:00:46 > 1:00:51true and make sure that its video recorded. These sorts of tactics are

1:00:51 > 1:00:55very effective. Instantly having video evidence of corruption,

1:00:55 > 1:00:57putting it on the Internet.

1:00:57 > 1:00:59The Information Commissioner will be talking to us

1:00:59 > 1:01:01about why she's investigating in the next few minutes.

1:01:01 > 1:01:04Should clubbers be given access to drugs testing areas to prevent

1:01:04 > 1:01:10ecstasy and cocaine-related deaths?

1:01:10 > 1:01:14What that does is take the very harmful, dangerous drugs out of the

1:01:14 > 1:01:20market. At the moment, while drug use is pretty constant, drug deaths

1:01:20 > 1:01:24are up. Hospitalisations are up and there is a huge cost to the NHS and

1:01:24 > 1:01:24police.

1:01:24 > 1:01:26We'll ask users whether they think introducing safe testing spots

1:01:26 > 1:01:28at popular nightspots will work.

1:01:28 > 1:01:30And we want to hear your thoughts too.

1:01:30 > 1:01:33And we'll hear about the impact of going bald when you're

1:01:33 > 1:01:35young from Paigey Cakey, a rapper from north London

1:01:35 > 1:01:43who was 18 when she first started to notice her hair was falling out.

1:01:43 > 1:01:49I felt like I'm too young for her loss, I have just turned 25, I have

1:01:49 > 1:01:55experienced this since college, I am way too young to be losing my hair.

1:01:55 > 1:01:56Good morning.

1:01:56 > 1:01:58Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom

1:01:58 > 1:02:02with a summary of today's news.

1:02:02 > 1:02:04Good morning.

1:02:04 > 1:02:07A British company accused of misusing personal data belonging

1:02:07 > 1:02:09to 50 million Facebook users is being investigated

1:02:09 > 1:02:10by the information watchdog.

1:02:10 > 1:02:12The UK's Information Commissioner says she will seek a warrant to look

1:02:12 > 1:02:16at databases and servers hosted by Cambridge Analytica.

1:02:16 > 1:02:18The firm is accused of using Facebook data without consent

1:02:18 > 1:02:22to influence the outcome of the last US election.

1:02:22 > 1:02:27Both Cambridge Analytica and Facebook deny any wrongdoing.

1:02:27 > 1:02:30Cambridge Analytica executives have also been filmed by Channel 4 News

1:02:30 > 1:02:32suggesting it could use honey traps and potentially bribery

1:02:32 > 1:02:38to discredit politicians.

1:02:38 > 1:02:46The company denies any wrongdoing.

1:03:14 > 1:03:19The government's latest figures show that UK inflation rate has fallen to

1:03:19 > 1:03:232.7% in February from 3% in January. Inflation figures are calculated by

1:03:23 > 1:03:27tracking the prices we pay for hundreds of things we currently

1:03:27 > 1:03:32spend money one, including groceries. The target for CPI is 2%.

1:03:32 > 1:03:35Consumers could see prices fall by up to 1.2% if Britain

1:03:35 > 1:03:37were to abolish all tariffs once it has left the European Union.

1:03:37 > 1:03:40The findings are in a report by the financial

1:03:40 > 1:03:41think tank the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

1:03:41 > 1:03:44But the independent report also warns that any gains would be small

1:03:44 > 1:03:50and that costs linked to new EU trade barriers could hit consumers.

1:03:50 > 1:03:53Jeremy Corbyn has said the UK must still deal with Vladimir Putin -

1:03:53 > 1:03:55despite evidence pointing to his country's involvement

1:03:55 > 1:03:58in the Salisbury spy attack.

1:03:58 > 1:04:00The Labour leader said he would do business with Russia,

1:04:00 > 1:04:05but assertively and on the basis of the UK's values.

1:04:05 > 1:04:06Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell says he believes

1:04:06 > 1:04:08Mr Putin was responsible.

1:04:08 > 1:04:11But Mr Corbyn said he wanted an absolutely definitive answer

1:04:11 > 1:04:15about the source of the nerve agent.

1:04:15 > 1:04:17That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

1:04:17 > 1:04:25More at 10.30am.

1:04:25 > 1:04:30One viewer on Twitter says about hair loss, I lost huge amounts of

1:04:30 > 1:04:35hair during my battle with anorexia. It is such an alienating effect. I

1:04:35 > 1:04:39was lucky enough for it to grow back and one of the things that really

1:04:39 > 1:04:42aided its regrowth was caffeinated shampoo.

1:04:42 > 1:04:46Christopher Arnie Mel says I lost a lot of hair at a very young age. I

1:04:46 > 1:04:54was 11. A condition which was a variant of alopecia. It was very

1:04:54 > 1:04:57distressing because I was just coming into adolescence and was very

1:04:57 > 1:05:04proud of my bright auburn hair. It came back within four months.

1:05:04 > 1:05:08Peter on e-mail, baldness, just live with it, only shallow people worry

1:05:08 > 1:05:11about it. I wonder if you are bald or have a full head of hair.

1:05:11 > 1:05:17Julie says I don't doubt the effect it has personally but I think of

1:05:17 > 1:05:20cancer patients who go through hair loss and so much worse as treatment

1:05:20 > 1:05:24for the cruel disease and I can't help but think it is not so worse

1:05:24 > 1:05:29when it happens gradually and naturally, often part of your jeans.

1:05:29 > 1:05:30-- genes.

1:05:30 > 1:05:33Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

1:05:33 > 1:05:34use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.

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1:05:37 > 1:05:38Here's some sport now with Jessica.

1:05:38 > 1:05:40Thank you, Victoria.

1:05:40 > 1:05:42A former top tennis player has described the seeding rules

1:05:42 > 1:05:44in women's tennis as "punishment" for players like Serena Williams

1:05:44 > 1:05:47who return to the sport after having a baby.

1:05:47 > 1:05:49Williams ranking dropped from world number one to 491 during her 13

1:05:49 > 1:05:51months maternity leave.

1:05:51 > 1:05:58Due to her low ranking, she will play a tougher opponent

1:06:03 > 1:06:07James Blake, the director of the Miami Open, say she leads be

1:06:07 > 1:06:09protected.

1:06:09 > 1:06:12Due to her low ranking, she will play a tougher opponent

1:06:12 > 1:06:14earlier on in a tournament, rather than in the latter

1:06:14 > 1:06:17stages, making it more difficult for her to win.

1:06:21 > 1:06:24The Women's Tennis Association said recently they are "very supportive

1:06:24 > 1:06:26of those players returning from pregnancy," and the rules

1:06:26 > 1:06:29will be "further reviewed."

1:06:29 > 1:06:32Also in Miami is Roger Federer - he could lose his world number one

1:06:32 > 1:06:34ranking if he fails to reach the quarter finals.

1:06:34 > 1:06:37He says he will continue his strategy of being selective over

1:06:37 > 1:06:38which tournaments he plays.

1:06:38 > 1:06:41The 36-year-old missed much of the clay court season last year

1:06:41 > 1:06:44to preserve his longevity but has been in fine form in 2018, only

1:06:44 > 1:06:52losing his first match on Sunday.

1:06:54 > 1:06:58Maybe our generation of tennis is much more taxing and more intense,

1:06:58 > 1:07:03more brutal and all that stuff. I don't know how much more I have

1:07:03 > 1:07:07lasted me but I am enjoying my time right now at the top, I can't

1:07:07 > 1:07:10believe I am back to world number one. I have just had another

1:07:10 > 1:07:14fabulous start to the year. We will see what the year brings but I need

1:07:14 > 1:07:18to be selective in which tournaments I can and should play.Many more

1:07:18 > 1:07:20years left in him, we hope.

1:07:20 > 1:07:21Meanwhile, already in Miami, Britons Katie Boulter,

1:07:21 > 1:07:24Liam Broady and Cameron Norrie all won in the first

1:07:24 > 1:07:32round of qualifying but Naomi Broady lost.

1:07:32 > 1:07:36Cricket and Ben Stokes has taken full part in training for the first

1:07:36 > 1:07:39test against New Zealand on Friday. The England all-rounder was unable

1:07:39 > 1:07:44to bowl in the warm up and Hamilton because of its stiff back then was

1:07:44 > 1:07:47restricted by rain to training indoors on Monday.

1:07:47 > 1:07:50Craig Overton could be called up if Stokes is not fit.

1:07:50 > 1:07:55It be an interesting couple of days, I just had to put in the preparation

1:07:55 > 1:07:57to be ready for the first game of the call-up comes.

1:07:57 > 1:08:04I am fit, I missed two days with a sore quad, it was just unfortunate.

1:08:04 > 1:08:08I played the last few days and it has been really good since then.

1:08:08 > 1:08:11South African back row Uzair Cassiem will join Pro 14 champion

1:08:11 > 1:08:12Scarlets for next season.

1:08:12 > 1:08:14With Scotland captain John Barclay leaving to join Edinburgh,

1:08:14 > 1:08:16the Llanelli-based side have acted quickly to bring in

1:08:16 > 1:08:20the Cheetah's number eight.

1:08:20 > 1:08:22Head coach Wayne Pivac has described him as a "very

1:08:22 > 1:08:25physical individual."

1:08:30 > 1:08:33That is all the sport for now, headlines at 10:30am.

1:08:33 > 1:08:35Planting fake news, spying on rivals, hiring "beautiful

1:08:35 > 1:08:39Ukranian girls" to set a honey trap - just a few of the things the boss

1:08:39 > 1:08:44of the world's most controversial election campaign consultants talked

1:08:44 > 1:08:47about when filmed talking to a possible client who was,

1:08:47 > 1:08:55in reality, a Channel 4 News undercover reporter.

1:09:50 > 1:09:53This comes a day after claims that that company, London based

1:09:53 > 1:09:54Cambridge Analytica, had used the private data

1:09:54 > 1:09:57of 50 million people without their permission in order

1:09:57 > 1:10:05to influence the US presidential election in favour of Donald Trump.

1:10:05 > 1:10:09And not just 50 million people, 50 million Facebook users.

1:10:09 > 1:10:12Last night Alexander Nix, the firm's chief executive, told

1:10:12 > 1:10:13Newsnight they'd been targeted simply because of their role

1:10:13 > 1:10:15in the US election.

1:10:15 > 1:10:20We see this as a coordinated attack by the media that has been going on

1:10:20 > 1:10:29for very many months in order to damage the company that had some

1:10:29 > 1:10:34involvement with the election of Donald Trump.

1:10:34 > 1:10:37We maybe undertook this meeting and spoke with a certain amount of

1:10:37 > 1:10:41hyperbole about some of the things that we do, but what we were trying

1:10:41 > 1:10:45to do was to elicit from the undercover reporter the true

1:10:45 > 1:10:50intentions of the meeting. These meetings started out as very bona

1:10:50 > 1:10:58fides philanthropic requests for services to help in the country of

1:10:58 > 1:11:03Sri Lanka, to help make it a better country and to help spread the

1:11:03 > 1:11:05wealth through projects of information technology and health

1:11:05 > 1:11:10care. By the time I joined the meetings the undercover reporter

1:11:10 > 1:11:16pivoted them search that he was asking us about entrapping political

1:11:16 > 1:11:26officials, the use of honey traps and all sorts of other behaviour.

1:11:26 > 1:11:28The Information Commissioner, Elizabeth Denham, is now applying

1:11:28 > 1:11:31for a warrant to search the offices of Cambridge Analytica.

1:11:31 > 1:11:32She joins us now from Cheshire.

1:11:32 > 1:11:34And in Southampton is Dr Victoria Baines -

1:11:34 > 1:11:36who until November last year was Facebook's Trust

1:11:36 > 1:11:37and Safety Manager for Europe.

1:11:37 > 1:11:44She is now a visiting fellow at Oxford Internet Institute.

1:11:45 > 1:11:48Thank you both for talking to us. Elizabeth Denham, you are having to

1:11:48 > 1:11:53apply for a warrant because you are not able to access Cambridge

1:11:53 > 1:12:00Analytica's offices yesterday?That is correct. The allegations about

1:12:00 > 1:12:06the use of Facebook data is one strand of a broader investigation

1:12:06 > 1:12:12that our office is doing into use of personal data for elections and

1:12:12 > 1:12:16campaigns. We are unable to get cooperation from Cambridge

1:12:16 > 1:12:22Analytica. We need to get to the bottom of what happened with this

1:12:22 > 1:12:27personal data affecting citizens across the world and we are going to

1:12:27 > 1:12:32proceed with a warrant to be able to search the servers and premises.Why

1:12:32 > 1:12:40wouldn't they let you win?That is a question you should ask Cambridge

1:12:40 > 1:12:47Analytica.Why do you think?We are using all the tools. Again, a

1:12:47 > 1:12:50question for them. We need to get in to find out on behalf of the public

1:12:50 > 1:12:57what has happened to this data. It is controversial because there are

1:12:57 > 1:13:00many statements, contradictory statements, about who had the data,

1:13:00 > 1:13:04how long they had it, whether it was deleted. Because Cambridge Analytica

1:13:04 > 1:13:12operates in the UK they are subject to UK data protection law, which we

1:13:12 > 1:13:15oversee. Do you think it is too late applying

1:13:15 > 1:13:19for this warrant, because it will take time? Cambridge Analytica

1:13:19 > 1:13:22already know you want to get into their premises to search the

1:13:22 > 1:13:29property at their servers and Facebook have already been in?

1:13:29 > 1:13:33Facebook started as search last night at our request. They withdrew

1:13:33 > 1:13:38their contractors at our request. We need to get in there. We are looking

1:13:38 > 1:13:43at Facebook and their conduct in whether or not data was properly

1:13:43 > 1:13:49secured on the platforms.Sorry to interrupt but it is possible that

1:13:49 > 1:13:56potential evidence you want to see has already been tampered with?We

1:13:56 > 1:14:02don't know. Again, we need to get in...But it is possible?We are

1:14:02 > 1:14:08going through the process, it is possible. We are using all the tools

1:14:08 > 1:14:14available to be able to investigate this issue on behalf of UK citizens.

1:14:14 > 1:14:22I spoke earlier to Labour's Liam Byrne, the Shadow Digital Minister.

1:14:22 > 1:14:29He Is Concerned About Your Powers.

1:14:29 > 1:14:32My number one concern is I don't think the Information

1:14:32 > 1:14:33Commissioner has the power to do the investigation.

1:14:33 > 1:14:36We've described this new online world as the Wild West

1:14:36 > 1:14:39and what we have is a sheriff without the tools to do the job.

1:14:39 > 1:14:43The fact that she has to go to court in order to get a warrant,

1:14:43 > 1:14:45basically gives companies like Cambridge Analytica loads

1:14:45 > 1:14:48and loads of notice which they can use to do all kind of things -

1:14:48 > 1:14:51destroy all kinds of data, hide all kind of records

1:14:51 > 1:14:52that might be needed.

1:14:52 > 1:14:54So the reality is we now need to give the Information Commissioner

1:14:54 > 1:14:57something like a digital search warrant that allows her to go

1:14:57 > 1:15:00in very quickly to get the evidence she needs to bring prosecution

1:15:00 > 1:15:07where they are needed.

1:15:07 > 1:15:11You are like a Sherrock without the tools to do the job. How likely is

1:15:11 > 1:15:19it that evidence will have been tampered with?

1:15:21 > 1:15:24That is a question we are seeking to answer.

1:15:24 > 1:15:29That is a question we are seeking to answer.You used to work for

1:15:29 > 1:15:34Facebook, you were their trust and safety manager for Europe, Facebook

1:15:34 > 1:15:40says they have done nothing wrong, have they?Good morning. Well, I am

1:15:40 > 1:15:46not sited on the specifics of this particular case from Facebook's

1:15:46 > 1:15:52perspective, but I can tell you certainly large tech companies like

1:15:52 > 1:15:56Facebook and Google, they take their role as data guardians, protectors

1:15:56 > 1:16:06of people's data, very seriously.Do they really? If that is true...They

1:16:06 > 1:16:10do, yes.How come the personal information of up to 50 million

1:16:10 > 1:16:15users has ended up being potentially used by a company that did not pay

1:16:15 > 1:16:20for it to influence the US presidential election?I think this

1:16:20 > 1:16:24is a really important point. Let us unpack this. From the information

1:16:24 > 1:16:28that has been released publicly, what appears to have happened is

1:16:28 > 1:16:33that people have shared their data voluntarily with Aaron app and that

1:16:33 > 1:16:39is not with Facebook, with a third-party -- with the app. From

1:16:39 > 1:16:45what we appear to know by now, that data has been misused, used for a

1:16:45 > 1:16:48purpose not originally intended and not communicated with the people who

1:16:48 > 1:16:53signed up it. And I think it is really important to raise this

1:16:53 > 1:16:56awareness because people do not always know when they sign up for

1:16:56 > 1:17:02these apps that they should be checking the data use policies. We

1:17:02 > 1:17:05have new legislation coming in in the next few months that the

1:17:05 > 1:17:09commissioner will be fully aware of, the general data protection

1:17:09 > 1:17:15regulation, and what it will do is make companies much more responsible

1:17:15 > 1:17:19for the data they hold and also communicating to people what they

1:17:19 > 1:17:23are doing with it. They will be required to communicate that much

1:17:23 > 1:17:27more clearly. Companies like large social media sites, they have been

1:17:27 > 1:17:32investing a lot of time and effort into updating their data use

1:17:32 > 1:17:37policies and communicating that to people. What concerns me...

1:17:37 > 1:17:42Companies like Cambridge Analytica, smaller companies, they might not be

1:17:42 > 1:17:46as compliant with the law and obviously that is a matter for the

1:17:46 > 1:17:50commissioner.This app, the people using it, they agree their data can

1:17:50 > 1:17:56be collected, then the app collected the data of their Facebook friends,

1:17:56 > 1:18:00potentially how they got data of up to 50 million people, Facebook

1:18:00 > 1:18:04allows the collection of friends' data to quote user experience

1:18:04 > 1:18:08although it sounds it from being sold or used for advertising. Should

1:18:08 > 1:18:16it ban the collection of data of friends?That is quite an

1:18:16 > 1:18:21interesting ethical question.What would you say?Facebook allows the

1:18:21 > 1:18:25collection of the data to improve its own services, the BBC will be

1:18:25 > 1:18:31using that data to improve its news offering per Facebook users and

1:18:31 > 1:18:34their friends, there are some perfectly legitimate reasons why

1:18:34 > 1:18:39that might be done. You could ask, do we need to get more granular,

1:18:39 > 1:18:45down into the weeds, about what it is used for and for what purpose,

1:18:45 > 1:18:50how long it is stored? That is what the new legislation is about. But

1:18:50 > 1:18:54what I would encourage people to do who are on Facebook and other social

1:18:54 > 1:19:00media sites, have a look at the policies. They are communicated in

1:19:00 > 1:19:07quite clear language, I think. But also go to the information

1:19:07 > 1:19:10commissioner's office, the website, they state the rights in relation to

1:19:10 > 1:19:16your personal data. If you are checking the app, if you are invited

1:19:16 > 1:19:21to take part in a psychology test, you would not hand that data over to

1:19:21 > 1:19:25somebody in the street, if they asked you for your name, location,

1:19:25 > 1:19:30date of birth. Take a step back and think, does this feel legitimate,

1:19:30 > 1:19:38does it smell right? If it does not smell right, it isn't.

1:19:38 > 1:19:40smell right, it isn't.Information Commissioner, now applying for a

1:19:40 > 1:19:45warrant to search the offices of Cambridge Analytica, you said he was

1:19:45 > 1:19:48seeking to find the answer to whether evidence could have

1:19:48 > 1:19:54potentially been tampered with, how likely do you think that is?We will

1:19:54 > 1:19:59have to see, if we get into the premises, and we have forensic

1:19:59 > 1:20:04experts that will be able to search the servers and we have a blueprint

1:20:04 > 1:20:10of the data on the servers. That will help us. But what is getting

1:20:10 > 1:20:15lost in this discussion is the basic point that the new data protection

1:20:15 > 1:20:20rules that are coming in in May will give people more rights and

1:20:20 > 1:20:24companies will have more responsibilities to take care of

1:20:24 > 1:20:29people's data. And we need to ensure that they understand how data is

1:20:29 > 1:20:35used and that this is not buried, the notifications, in terms of

1:20:35 > 1:20:40service so the law requires clear unambiguous consent for the sharing

1:20:40 > 1:20:47of data, the law also gives powers for us to prosecute individuals and

1:20:47 > 1:20:51organisations that have played fast and loose with people's personal

1:20:51 > 1:20:57information. And our office is here to oversee that.It is retrospective

1:20:57 > 1:21:04or does it come in in May?In May, I will have powers of inspection which

1:21:04 > 1:21:10means knock on the door and go in. There are more significant fines for

1:21:10 > 1:21:14getting this wrong against organisations. Mandatory data breach

1:21:14 > 1:21:19notification, all of these tools are really helpful for users, it is for

1:21:19 > 1:21:25individuals, for consumers.Thank you very much for your time. The

1:21:25 > 1:21:28Information Commissioner. And Victoria, who until last year was

1:21:28 > 1:21:32Facebook's trust manager for Europe and she is now a visiting fellow at

1:21:32 > 1:21:35the Oxford institute.

1:21:35 > 1:21:42Still to come... Police are asking the public to become

1:21:42 > 1:21:48counterterrorism citizens.

1:21:48 > 1:21:50counterterrorism citizens. We will talk to people who have already done

1:21:50 > 1:21:52that.

1:21:52 > 1:21:55The world's last surviving male northern white rhino has died,

1:21:55 > 1:21:57bringing the species to the brink of extiction.

1:21:57 > 1:22:00Sudan, who lived in Kenya, was put to sleep on Monday after age-related

1:22:00 > 1:22:03complications worsened.

1:23:00 > 1:23:02Last year the BBC ran a documentary about Sudan and the battle

1:23:02 > 1:23:04to save his species.

1:23:04 > 1:23:06Here's an extract - you can see him alongside

1:23:06 > 1:23:14Zachary Mutai, his keeper of eight years.

1:23:15 > 1:23:18I'm just applying mud on his body.

1:23:18 > 1:23:20This helps to cool his body temperature down.

1:23:20 > 1:23:22He loves that.

1:23:22 > 1:23:26We really take great care of him, just like elderly people.

1:23:26 > 1:23:28He's doing fine.

1:23:28 > 1:23:36But anything might happen at any time.

1:23:38 > 1:23:40This is very serious.

1:23:40 > 1:23:41Something needs to be done.

1:23:41 > 1:23:47I'm now joined in the studio by Richard Vine, who runs

1:23:47 > 1:23:53the Ol Pejeta Conservancy in Kenya, where Sudan lived.

1:23:53 > 1:23:59And via webcam we can speak to Colin Butfield from the WWF.

1:23:59 > 1:24:05Tell us first of all about Sudan and why the news of his death is so

1:24:05 > 1:24:13significant.Sudan was the last remaining northern white rhino,

1:24:13 > 1:24:18male, left on the planet. For that reason, his death is significant.

1:24:18 > 1:24:23For a long time now, there have only been three left of that particular

1:24:23 > 1:24:27species, some people argue it is a subspecies, but that is

1:24:27 > 1:24:31inconsequential in many ways. This species has been hunted to

1:24:31 > 1:24:36extinction and the chances of recovering the species are Mote,

1:24:36 > 1:24:38although possibilities through so-called artificial reproductive

1:24:38 > 1:24:45techniques still exist -- remote. It is a sad moment, he has been with us

1:24:45 > 1:24:51for eight years. He has become a good friend. He was very old, it was

1:24:51 > 1:24:56inevitable sooner or later this day would come.You say he had become a

1:24:56 > 1:25:00good friend, what do you mean?He had been in captivity since the late

1:25:00 > 1:25:0670s, he was captured in the Sudan. At the time, they were capturing

1:25:06 > 1:25:11rhinos for circuses and he ended up in a zoo in the Czech Republic so he

1:25:11 > 1:25:18is very acquainted with human beings and he was very... He was incredibly

1:25:18 > 1:25:22patient, incredibly docile, full of character, and easily approachable

1:25:22 > 1:25:26by human beings. His keepers particularly who had lived with him

1:25:26 > 1:25:31for the period he was with us, they treated him as a kind of family pet,

1:25:31 > 1:25:37as did we all on the Conservancy.We had got to know him as an

1:25:37 > 1:25:43individual. How old was he?When he died, he was 45. Is there a Rino

1:25:43 > 1:25:52years equivalent? -- rhino. We like to say he had reached the age of

1:25:52 > 1:25:56100. Whether that is true, I am not sure, definitely very old

1:25:56 > 1:26:00individual.And he was sick at the end.Yeah comedy was coming down

1:26:00 > 1:26:10with lots of -- yeah, he was coming down with lots of age-related

1:26:10 > 1:26:13illnesses, he had stopped feeding, recumbent, not good for a large

1:26:13 > 1:26:17animal, he was suffering, and that is why we took the decision to

1:26:17 > 1:26:26utilise him.That is one heck of a decision.It is. -- to euthanise

1:26:26 > 1:26:30him. You have to put it into context. Functionally, from a

1:26:30 > 1:26:35reproductive perspective, he had become irrelevant over the past five

1:26:35 > 1:26:40years, just because of his age. Luckily, we have plenty of... We

1:26:40 > 1:26:49have stored northern white rhino Seaman. The future of the species is

1:26:49 > 1:26:53incredibly dire but the fact we have it and we have two females left, it

1:26:53 > 1:26:58means theoretically in vitro fertilisation to recover the species

1:26:58 > 1:27:02as possible. It is really complex, really expensive, really difficult,

1:27:02 > 1:27:09but theoretically, it is possible. Wow, theoretically possible.

1:27:09 > 1:27:14Presumably that is something you would like to see?Yes, absolutely.

1:27:14 > 1:27:22Obviously, it needs to run in parallel to making sure there was

1:27:22 > 1:27:25enough habitat available and the poaching crisis, but we would like

1:27:25 > 1:27:31to see both running in parallel. As was said, we have been facing a

1:27:31 > 1:27:35decline in most rhino species across the world, subspecies of Javan rhino

1:27:35 > 1:27:44in Vietnam in 2011, a sad day today, almost certainly the last of the

1:27:44 > 1:27:48northern white rhino. It is only the southern white rhino and black

1:27:48 > 1:27:51rhino, relatively stable populations, but we are losing three

1:27:51 > 1:27:56a day on average to poachers, a big context we need to tackle. I wish

1:27:56 > 1:28:01Richard and his team every success. The poaching happens because of

1:28:01 > 1:28:06what, where is the demand coming from and for what parts of the

1:28:06 > 1:28:10rhino?Overwhelmingly the rhino horn. It is essentially made of the

1:28:10 > 1:28:15same stuff as our hair, but it is believed to have properties of

1:28:15 > 1:28:21value. It is primarily demand for horn, it is illegal wildlife trade,

1:28:21 > 1:28:27on a massive scale and people do not realise, it is on the scale of drugs

1:28:27 > 1:28:32and guns, big criminal scale, not small-scale poaching at all, big

1:28:32 > 1:28:38money, a big problem, needs major law enforcement. It is demand in

1:28:38 > 1:28:49East Asia primarily.Who could find rhino IVF theoretically?

1:28:49 > 1:28:52rhino IVF theoretically? It was for you, you from the WWF, you are

1:28:52 > 1:28:58incredibly popular around the world, you would receive donations?Our

1:28:58 > 1:29:03work is mostly concentrated where we are experts, in reducing the trade,

1:29:03 > 1:29:07greater policing, protected areas for the rhino tried anti-poaching

1:29:07 > 1:29:11patrols, working with communities, it is not particularly our area of

1:29:11 > 1:29:18expertise, but...Who potentially could fund rhino IVF, Richard?

1:29:18 > 1:29:24Interesting question. As your guest is saying, conservation as a whole

1:29:24 > 1:29:28costs an extraordinary amount of money, the conservation of rhinos in

1:29:28 > 1:29:34particular, the biggest black rhino sanctuary in East Africa, we have

1:29:34 > 1:29:38over 100, making as a key population, there are only nine left

1:29:38 > 1:29:43in Africa, we are really important conservation area for rhinos, but we

1:29:43 > 1:29:47have to spend an inordinate amount of money on security to safeguard

1:29:47 > 1:29:51the populations, somewhere in the region of $2.5 million per year on

1:29:51 > 1:29:56security to protect the rhinos. Finding money in addition to that to

1:29:56 > 1:29:59develop IVF to recover the northern white rhino is inevitably going to

1:29:59 > 1:30:04be difficult but it is a charismatic species. Increasingly I am seeing

1:30:04 > 1:30:09around the world people are sick and tired of the rate of extinction that

1:30:09 > 1:30:13has been witnessed, as we speak, on this planet. Hopefully there comes a

1:30:13 > 1:30:17time where we can draw a line in the sand and people get behind courses

1:30:17 > 1:30:23like this.Let us hope it is in our lifetime. Thank you very much for

1:30:23 > 1:30:25coming on the programme.

1:30:25 > 1:30:27Police chiefs are asking members of the public

1:30:27 > 1:30:29to act as "counter terrorism citizens" to help stop

1:30:29 > 1:30:32deadly terror plots.

1:31:33 > 1:31:35Police say information from the community is crucial

1:31:35 > 1:31:37to confronting the unprecedented terror threat, with more than 6,000

1:31:37 > 1:31:44tip-offs yielding useful intelligence last year.

1:31:44 > 1:31:45So, if you witnessed suspicious behaviour,

1:31:45 > 1:31:51would you feel confident reporting it to the police?

1:31:51 > 1:31:54We can speak to Mak Chisty, former commander for engagement

1:31:54 > 1:31:57with the Met Police, Sajda Mughal, a survivor of the 7/7

1:31:57 > 1:32:00terror attack in London who now works with Muslim women to educate

1:32:00 > 1:32:06them on identifying signs of radicalization in children,

1:32:06 > 1:32:09and from Calgary in Canada, Christianne Boudreau.

1:32:09 > 1:32:14Christianne's son became radicalized and flew to Syria in 2012.

1:32:14 > 1:32:16He was killed soon after, and Christianne now campaigns

1:32:16 > 1:32:24against online radicalisation propaganda.

1:32:24 > 1:32:30Welcome to you all and thank you for your patience. Mak, a fifth of

1:32:30 > 1:32:33reports from the public producing intelligence, the UK

1:32:33 > 1:32:36counterterrorism police and tells us, which is helpful to them. What

1:32:36 > 1:32:41do you think of this further call to action?I think it is absolutely

1:32:41 > 1:32:46necessary. There has always been cooperation between the public and

1:32:46 > 1:32:49security services and the police. At no point in time before is it ever

1:32:49 > 1:32:54more needed than now. The dispersed nature of terrorism is right across

1:32:54 > 1:33:00the piece. What we are really asking for, police are asking for, if any

1:33:00 > 1:33:04information of whatever value you may think it may be, too reported to

1:33:04 > 1:33:10encourage people.Sajda?I think it is a good initiative which is

1:33:10 > 1:33:14needed, however I do not want us to be complacent in terms of being

1:33:14 > 1:33:19reliant on this initiative to defeat terrorism.I don't think there was a

1:33:19 > 1:33:30suggestion it is just this.OK.But the police say, for example,

1:33:31 > 1:33:32the police say, for example, they ten Islamist plots and four

1:33:32 > 1:33:34right-wing terror plots in 2017 which would not have been possible

1:33:34 > 1:33:36without relevant information.It would not have been possible if we

1:33:36 > 1:33:38had not had that from members of the public.

1:33:38 > 1:33:43But what I would like to see happen is to go out and educate members of

1:33:43 > 1:33:47the public about the signs, educate them with the very specific signs. I

1:33:47 > 1:33:52would hope the marketing, posters, leaflets or whatever that go out, or

1:33:52 > 1:33:56the TV adverts, are very specific in terms of what they tell members of

1:33:56 > 1:34:02the public. I do not want this in any way to whip up hysteria. Only

1:34:02 > 1:34:07yesterday in the Guardian and article came out in terms of NHS

1:34:07 > 1:34:11workers reporting patients who said they were going on pilgrimage. I do

1:34:11 > 1:34:18not want that type of approach, in effect that could create tensions

1:34:18 > 1:34:20with communities, specifically the Muslim community. A good initiative

1:34:20 > 1:34:25but I want is to be very specific in the marketing campaign.The quote

1:34:25 > 1:34:30says if you see or hear something unusual or suspicious, trust your

1:34:30 > 1:34:34instincts. Which, Mak, if you don't like the look of somebody, you

1:34:34 > 1:34:38report them?!I have a slightly different view to Sajda in relation

1:34:38 > 1:34:43to being specific. I don't think you can be. The plotted attacks we have

1:34:43 > 1:34:49dealt with have had a different dynamic. We do not want to consign

1:34:49 > 1:34:54people to a specific set. If you feel something is disturbing not

1:34:54 > 1:34:58quite right, police are saying to report it. Do not feel you are

1:34:58 > 1:35:05wasting time, that you will feel silly, report it in. 30,000 last

1:35:05 > 1:35:10year, 6000 of which were actionable, that is real credit to public.So

1:35:10 > 1:35:15most tip-offs were not useful. Let me bring in Christianne. You will

1:35:15 > 1:35:19have been asked this so many times, thank you for talking to us and for

1:35:19 > 1:35:24your patience, tell our audience if you picked up any signs about your

1:35:24 > 1:35:29son before he flew to Syria? Changes in views, attitude, behaviour? A

1:35:29 > 1:35:35group absolutely. At the time back in Canada we had not heard too much

1:35:35 > 1:35:39about the warin Syria, we heard a lot about extremism but we are not

1:35:39 > 1:35:43educated about it. I did not recognise it but I recognised a

1:35:43 > 1:35:49shift. Back then they had a lot more clear definitions as far as signs

1:35:49 > 1:35:54for this type of extremism, now it has gone underground. What we try to

1:35:54 > 1:35:59do when working with parents is say when it is somebody very close to

1:35:59 > 1:36:04you, a loved one, you will pick up on those changes of behaviour,

1:36:04 > 1:36:06personality, even. They starts occluding themselves from their

1:36:06 > 1:36:11regular circle of friends, start shifting, coming away from the

1:36:11 > 1:36:16everyday norms of their lifestyle and start having arguments and

1:36:16 > 1:36:21stronger views about certain points of view. You can feel it in your

1:36:21 > 1:36:26gut.You can feel it in your gut. Did you report your son to the

1:36:26 > 1:36:30authorities?Yeah, like I said before, there was no way of me

1:36:30 > 1:36:34understand what was happening. I could see a change, I did not know

1:36:34 > 1:36:39if it was depression again, some kind of extreme views and he was

1:36:39 > 1:36:43going to settle because of his new religion, we see that in born-again

1:36:43 > 1:36:47Christians when they go in full force. Where was I going to report

1:36:47 > 1:36:52it? There was nobody to talk to, not a safe environment to talk to

1:36:52 > 1:36:55somebody, nobody I could reach out to.

1:36:55 > 1:36:58Thank you very much for your time, we appreciate your patience. Thank

1:36:58 > 1:37:00you.

1:37:00 > 1:37:03Clubbers should be given access to places to test their drugs

1:37:03 > 1:37:05in UK towns and cities, especially at night,

1:37:05 > 1:37:08to see what's in them and how safe they are to take.

1:37:08 > 1:37:10Campaign group The Loop says deaths related to ecstasy and cocaine

1:37:10 > 1:37:17are at a record high.

1:37:17 > 1:37:19It believes if people are able to test their drugs,

1:37:19 > 1:37:21the amount of drugs laced with potentially lethal

1:37:21 > 1:37:24products will be reduced, which will in turn reduce the number

1:37:24 > 1:37:26of hospital admissions.

1:37:26 > 1:37:31So, should clubs and pubs introduce drug testing areas?

1:37:31 > 1:37:33Or will it, as critics argue, simply encourage people to take

1:37:33 > 1:37:37illegal drugs?

1:37:37 > 1:37:39Really keen to hear from you this morning.

1:37:39 > 1:37:42Earlier, we spoke to Labour MP Jeff Smith, who co-chairs the group

1:37:42 > 1:37:45of MPs who've written a report, the All-Party Parliamentary Group

1:37:45 > 1:37:49on Drug Policy Reform.

1:37:49 > 1:37:51Simpa Carter is a recreational drug user and is in Newcastle

1:37:51 > 1:37:53for us this morning.

1:37:53 > 1:37:55David Jamieson is the West Midlands Police

1:37:55 > 1:37:57and Crime Commissioner, who this summer will introduce drug

1:37:57 > 1:38:00testing in nightspots across his patch,

1:38:00 > 1:38:02and Fiona Measham, professor of criminology

1:38:02 > 1:38:04at Durham University and the director of The Loop,

1:38:04 > 1:38:12who currently set up testing centers at UK festivals.

1:38:14 > 1:38:19-- testing centres. We asked Jeff Smith what needs to change.Well, we

1:38:19 > 1:38:24have a situation where the night-time economy is very important

1:38:24 > 1:38:28in this country. We have thousands of people going out tonight and

1:38:28 > 1:38:33venues, many of whom use drugs. We had to accept that as a reality.

1:38:33 > 1:38:38What this report is about is reducing the harm related to that

1:38:38 > 1:38:43consumption. It is a suite of proposals and the great thing about

1:38:43 > 1:38:47them as they can all be implemented without changing the law.

1:38:47 > 1:38:51One of the lustre Matic proposals is you are suggesting that then use in

1:38:51 > 1:38:57towns and cities across the lad should test drugs on the spot -- one

1:38:57 > 1:39:02of the most dramatic proposals.We suggest professional drug testing in

1:39:02 > 1:39:08city centres and in venues possibly, which has very successfully been

1:39:08 > 1:39:11done by The Loop in this country and it has been successful in other

1:39:11 > 1:39:16countries. It takes the very harmful, dangerous drugs out of the

1:39:16 > 1:39:21market. While drug use is pretty constant, at the moment drug deaths

1:39:21 > 1:39:25are up, hospitalisations are up and there is a huge cost to the NHS and

1:39:25 > 1:39:29police.Would you say this is urgent?Getting more urgent. It is a

1:39:29 > 1:39:36growing trend in something we need to address.Director of The Loop,

1:39:36 > 1:39:40Fiona Measham, currently set up testing centres that UK music

1:39:40 > 1:39:44festivals. How successful is that and how do you measure success?We

1:39:44 > 1:39:49have looked at a number of indicators, whether people are being

1:39:49 > 1:39:52mis-sold drugs, whether there are dangerous contaminants circulating

1:39:52 > 1:39:57on site and weather when people hear the test results they dispose of the

1:39:57 > 1:40:02drugs themselves or give us the drugs to be disposed of by police.

1:40:02 > 1:40:05About one in five give over drugs for disposal or destruction because

1:40:05 > 1:40:11they do not want to take them when they find out what is in them.Only

1:40:11 > 1:40:14one in five? About and about another half of the others take a smaller

1:40:14 > 1:40:18amount. We have the highest drug-related death rate on record,

1:40:18 > 1:40:23partly relating to highpurity, it is very good if we can get people to

1:40:23 > 1:40:27take smaller amounts. 100% of the people we see had previously planned

1:40:27 > 1:40:35on taking back drug, so we can only reduce that figure.OK. Is this

1:40:35 > 1:40:41condoning drug use?It is not condoning or promoting, it is trying

1:40:41 > 1:40:43to take the harm out of it, accepting it is a reality but we

1:40:43 > 1:40:49need to save lives.Simpa, you use drugs regularly. Would you like to

1:40:49 > 1:40:55see the drugs you are about to take tested first?I wouldn't highly. I

1:40:55 > 1:41:03took advantage of Fiona's The Loop at a festival last year. As Fiona

1:41:03 > 1:41:08said, people took less or were more cautious of consumer product. -- I

1:41:08 > 1:41:17would, entirely.Does it ever feel like it was complicit in your

1:41:17 > 1:41:22illegal drug-taking?I was going to anyway. I have the sovereignty of my

1:41:22 > 1:41:27consciousness, I am an adult, it is the law. Prohibition is the problem.

1:41:27 > 1:41:31These substances are relatively safe themselves. When they are covered

1:41:31 > 1:41:34with adult rents and nefarious individuals are trying to profit, of

1:41:34 > 1:41:39course they would use PMA instead of ecstasy, concrete dust and cocaine.

1:41:39 > 1:41:44That is why we need a regulated market. I applaud this avid but I

1:41:44 > 1:41:49think it is the first step of a journey of a thousand.We are joined

1:41:49 > 1:41:53by the Police and Crime Commissioner for the West Midlands, you are doing

1:41:53 > 1:41:57this this summer, why?Because we want to prevent harm to people, the

1:41:57 > 1:42:01police's job is to keep people safe. We want the night-time economy to

1:42:01 > 1:42:06work well and we want people to enjoy festivals. This provides the

1:42:06 > 1:42:09police with extra assistance in finding out and getting early

1:42:09 > 1:42:13warning of substances that may be coming onto the street that are

1:42:13 > 1:42:18dangerous to young people, so instead of targeting the young

1:42:18 > 1:42:22people who have the drug, we can target instead people pushing these

1:42:22 > 1:42:28drugs and manufacturing them.Last year Theresa May, the Prime

1:42:28 > 1:42:31Minister, said it is right that we continue to fight the war against

1:42:31 > 1:42:35drugs, citing the incredible damage drugs can do to families and

1:42:35 > 1:42:40individuals concerned. Critics might say of you that you have simply

1:42:40 > 1:42:46given up?The war on drugs is not working at the moment. Every three

1:42:46 > 1:42:50days in the West Midlands someone dies from a drug overdose, drug

1:42:50 > 1:42:55gangs are fighting drug wars. The war is not being won. It is clearly

1:42:55 > 1:42:59not working, when things are not working you look at alternative ways

1:42:59 > 1:43:03of approaching them. This is one method of looking at an alternative

1:43:03 > 1:43:08method. The report that I brought out last month has been well

1:43:08 > 1:43:12received, I have to say, by Government ministers, including the

1:43:12 > 1:43:14Home Secretary and the Minister for the Department of the Home Office

1:43:14 > 1:43:20that I spoke to last week.What did the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, say?

1:43:20 > 1:43:24That we have produced an excellent report. Some parts of it are

1:43:24 > 1:43:27controversial but there was no mention of this particular part,

1:43:27 > 1:43:32which I think is a pragmatic, sensible way of helping young people

1:43:32 > 1:43:37keep safe.Jeff Smith, do you think this testing will be rolled out to

1:43:37 > 1:43:43other areas across the country?I hope so. We should not just focus on

1:43:43 > 1:43:48the testing, this is a suite of measures. It is an information

1:43:48 > 1:43:51campaign so clubbers know what they are getting, it is a number of

1:43:51 > 1:43:55measures that, combined, will reduce harm in the night-time economy and

1:43:55 > 1:44:01protect people.We will see what happens. Your experience is welcome.

1:44:01 > 1:44:04Working dads should be given 12 weeks paternity leave in the first

1:44:04 > 1:44:07year of a baby's life, with two weeks paterntity leave paid

1:44:07 > 1:44:08at 90% of their salary.

1:44:08 > 1:44:10That's the verdict of MPs who say Britain must radically reform

1:44:10 > 1:44:13parental leave to encourage more fathers to take time off work,

1:44:13 > 1:44:19or it will never get to grips with the gender pay gap.

1:44:19 > 1:44:23Conservative MP and chair of Parliament's Equalities Committee

1:44:23 > 1:44:25who brought this report out this morning, Maria Miller,

1:44:25 > 1:44:29is with us now.

1:44:29 > 1:44:35And Sarah Morris, chief people officer at Aviva, they currently

1:44:35 > 1:44:40offer equal paid parental leave to both male and female staff.

1:44:40 > 1:44:42Adam Gretton and his daughter, Florence, who is nearly two.

1:44:42 > 1:44:48Adam also has a five-year-old son, Oscar.

1:44:48 > 1:44:53And we have Martin Leay and Rachael Cox,

1:44:53 > 1:44:56and their baby, John, who is six months old today.

1:44:56 > 1:44:59Martin and Rachael are currently both on shared parental leave.

1:44:59 > 1:45:03Thank you all very much for coming on the programme, I want to talk

1:45:03 > 1:45:07about the cost and the changing culture that might be needed.

1:45:07 > 1:45:13Paternity leave for dads which would be 90% of their salary for two weeks

1:45:13 > 1:45:17and a separate 12 weeks parental leave in the first year of the

1:45:17 > 1:45:21child's life, how much would it cost and who would pay for it?We are

1:45:21 > 1:45:26putting forward the first proposal which is two weeks at 90% which we

1:45:26 > 1:45:33believe is going to help more dads to take

1:45:36 > 1:45:39to take that, it will be paid for by the Government and employers, and

1:45:39 > 1:45:42the same for the 12 weeks, more of a recommendation to government as part

1:45:42 > 1:45:46of the review. It is a cost we have to take on because if we don't... We

1:45:46 > 1:45:50know that 50% of dads are looking to down trade their jobs, and at a time

1:45:50 > 1:45:54when we have a skills shortage, that is something that would affect

1:45:54 > 1:45:58productivity of the country. To tackle the gender pay gap, one of

1:45:58 > 1:46:03this government's flagship policies, if we do not help dads to get the

1:46:03 > 1:46:07balance right, we will never achieve that. Yes, it is an expensive policy

1:46:07 > 1:46:10but I do not think the country has any option other than to move

1:46:10 > 1:46:17towards it.Your company

1:46:22 > 1:46:23towards it.Your company already pretty much does this.Why? We made

1:46:23 > 1:46:27the decision to do it at the end of last year. It is about levelling the

1:46:27 > 1:46:30playing field. We did not like the idea men and women had to choose who

1:46:30 > 1:46:32to have time-out. By some men choosing to take time out, some

1:46:32 > 1:46:35women choose to come back to work on getting women to return to work is

1:46:35 > 1:46:39important, it is about choice, we are not judging anybody, but it is

1:46:39 > 1:46:43enabling choice for men and women. Adam and Florence, what do you think

1:46:43 > 1:46:48of the suggestions today?I think they are really good ideas. I think

1:46:48 > 1:46:57it definitely is needed. At the minute, there are a lot of dads who

1:46:57 > 1:47:02want to take parental leave and they cannot afford to. I took three

1:47:02 > 1:47:07months off with Florence but that was unpaid leave, basically. What is

1:47:07 > 1:47:11being proposed today is really promising. I think more dads will

1:47:11 > 1:47:19take it up. But I think more could be done to help working parents.It

1:47:19 > 1:47:25is definitely a good step forward. Martin and Rachael, you are enjoying

1:47:25 > 1:47:31your time off together, I assume?We are, thank you. Joni is a bit tired

1:47:31 > 1:47:36and hungry at the moment, on good form earlier this morning.We all

1:47:36 > 1:47:40are, don't worry! What do you think of this idea of dads having 12 weeks

1:47:40 > 1:47:47parental leave in the first year of a baby's life?I think it is a

1:47:47 > 1:47:50fantastic idea, similar to Adam, I have taken about three months

1:47:50 > 1:47:56myself, but it was unpaid, I get the statutory shed parental pay which I

1:47:56 > 1:48:02have taken from my wife. If it was more a matter of course that men can

1:48:02 > 1:48:06do this, that is only a positive thing for families and for the

1:48:06 > 1:48:09development of children, particularly at such an early age.

1:48:09 > 1:48:16What about you, Rachael? I am dying to know who you have given her to.

1:48:16 > 1:48:24She has gone to her nana.Why has it been important for you, having your

1:48:24 > 1:48:29baby's Father there?I think those first few months with the baby are

1:48:29 > 1:48:34so hard on the month. They are obviously wonderful, precious times,

1:48:34 > 1:48:42but it is so difficult, sleep deprivation. -- on the modem. I was

1:48:42 > 1:48:46so grateful to know I would have Martin with me after the first three

1:48:46 > 1:48:51months so that we could do it together. The one thing for mothers

1:48:51 > 1:48:54that is really difficult at the minute is that in order for your

1:48:54 > 1:48:58partner to take this leave, you have to sacrifice your only. That means

1:48:58 > 1:49:03for me I am going back at nine months, I cannot take the full 12

1:49:03 > 1:49:08months. Progress in that area would be really positive.Maria Miller,

1:49:08 > 1:49:13the Government admitted to your inquiry it is the flagship shed

1:49:13 > 1:49:21parental leave skin, it is not meeting its objectives.The

1:49:21 > 1:49:27Government will make some important reforms. The inquiry report today

1:49:27 > 1:49:32suggests 12 weeks stand-alone use it or use it leave for dads which in

1:49:32 > 1:49:35other countries has helped change the culture not only amongst

1:49:35 > 1:49:39employers who take it more seriously and do not see it as a detriment to

1:49:39 > 1:49:43someone's career to take dad leave, but for dads to have the right as

1:49:43 > 1:49:48well and not take time away from them on spending time with her

1:49:48 > 1:49:55child, as we have just heard. -- time away from mothers.You will

1:49:55 > 1:50:03have a brilliant time. Thank you, Adam, Martin, Rachael, Joni,

1:50:03 > 1:50:08Florence.

1:50:08 > 1:50:10It sounds obvious, but hair is really important to us,

1:50:10 > 1:50:12our self image and self esteem.

1:50:12 > 1:50:14It tells us about our identity and personal style

1:50:14 > 1:50:18and perhaps especially so for young adults.

1:50:18 > 1:50:22So losing your hair in your 20s can be devastating.

1:50:22 > 1:50:30Chedira Eggerue is 23 and wears a wig to cover her bald patch.

1:50:31 > 1:50:33She's been to meet other young people who are losing their hair

1:50:33 > 1:50:36for Radio 1 Newsbeat.

1:50:36 > 1:50:37We brought you her full report earlier.

1:50:37 > 1:50:38Here's a short extract.

1:50:38 > 1:50:40It shows some graphic images of hair transplants.

1:50:40 > 1:50:43I always cover my bald patch when I'm out by

1:50:43 > 1:50:44wearing a wig or a hat.

1:50:44 > 1:50:48But it's not so easy for guys to hide their loss.

1:50:48 > 1:50:51Perry is 23, and first started losing his hair

1:50:51 > 1:50:52when he was a teenager.

1:50:52 > 1:50:53Hello, everyone.

1:50:53 > 1:51:00My name is Perry and this is Perry Presents.

1:51:00 > 1:51:03He has male pattern baldness - by far the most common form

1:51:03 > 1:51:04of hair loss in men.

1:51:04 > 1:51:07So at times like this, what do you do?

1:51:07 > 1:51:08So I get my phone.

1:51:08 > 1:51:10And obviously I will look like a mirror.

1:51:10 > 1:51:12OK, so you put your phone on camera?

1:51:12 > 1:51:13Yeah.

1:51:13 > 1:51:16And then I'll check it a bit.

1:51:16 > 1:51:18And obviously you can see now - really bad, right?

1:51:18 > 1:51:19Yeah.

1:51:19 > 1:51:21And the wind makes it worse.

1:51:21 > 1:51:24So I have my brush.

1:51:24 > 1:51:27Basically just do the same thing again, restyle it.

1:51:27 > 1:51:31But to be honest with you, in the wind, it's just life.

1:51:31 > 1:51:34And until I get indoors, that's just the way it is.

1:51:34 > 1:51:42Tidies it up and we'll take another selfie.

1:51:45 > 1:51:52You can watch a full version of Too Young To Go Bald on BBC iPlayer.

1:51:52 > 1:51:55We can speak now to Perry O'Bree, a 23-year-old vlogger

1:51:55 > 1:51:58who you saw in the film there, Paigey Cakey, a rapper

1:51:58 > 1:52:00who got a hair transplant after losing some of her hair,

1:52:00 > 1:52:03and Dr Greg Williams, the president of the British Association

1:52:03 > 1:52:05of Hair Restoration Surgery who are warning there isn't enough

1:52:05 > 1:52:06regulation of the hair transplant industry.

1:52:06 > 1:52:10Thank you all very much for coming on the programme. Good to see you.

1:52:10 > 1:52:15Perry, what is it like?I first started losing my hair at university

1:52:15 > 1:52:21and there was a lot of pressure, you go on lots of nights out, I was

1:52:21 > 1:52:30about 20, 21, basically, the peak of party, and I started to notice a

1:52:30 > 1:52:35tiny hole in my hair and you think, my goodness, and of the world, you

1:52:35 > 1:52:40start to question yourself, your confidence. But the more I talk

1:52:40 > 1:52:45about, the better I feel -- end of the world.Why is the better you

1:52:45 > 1:52:51feel?I kept it in for so long, I hid it through college, it is just

1:52:51 > 1:52:56talking about it now, a huge weight off my shoulder, it was like a

1:52:56 > 1:53:00massive life, living with it for years. Every time I talk about it, I

1:53:00 > 1:53:05feel amazing.Keeping it quiet and not confronting it, if you like, it

1:53:05 > 1:53:11was a burden?Eating you up inside. I found the best thing to start off

1:53:11 > 1:53:15with was talking to your best friends, the people who support you

1:53:15 > 1:53:19the most, your friends, family, and slowly talking to more people about

1:53:19 > 1:53:24it until you feel that you can walk the street happily and not worry

1:53:24 > 1:53:29about your hair. I am constantly playing with it. While I have got

1:53:29 > 1:53:34it, I will keep it that way. I love my hair, it is part of me. The

1:53:34 > 1:53:39biggest thing is you feel you might lose part of you, your personality,

1:53:39 > 1:53:42and there is a lot of pressure with social media and Instagram for us to

1:53:42 > 1:53:49look good. People tend to assume that hair can be part of it but

1:53:49 > 1:53:52through doing this documentary and talking to different people, I have

1:53:52 > 1:53:57learnt it is not always... You do not always have to have hair to look

1:53:57 > 1:54:04good.He will often ask, is it worse for a woman. How do you answer that,

1:54:04 > 1:54:10Paigey?In a sense, it is worse for a female because hair is kind of

1:54:10 > 1:54:13beauty, for a woman, you love your hair, you love your make-up commie

1:54:13 > 1:54:19field that is what makes you you and beautiful. Losing my hair, I did not

1:54:19 > 1:54:23feel beautiful, I felt very insecure and I felt like I was way too young

1:54:23 > 1:54:28to lose my hair, it was the insecurity I saw every day and I did

1:54:28 > 1:54:32not have a lot of confidence. I was looking in the mirror thinking, I am

1:54:32 > 1:54:38too young. Little hairstyles, friends putting their hair in a

1:54:38 > 1:54:42barn, I did not have any hair on the sides, I could not do that, it was

1:54:42 > 1:54:49horrible -- in a

1:54:49 > 1:54:53horrible -- in a bun.What do you say to people who say, it is just

1:54:53 > 1:54:57superficial, what is the problem?It is a big thing and as you were

1:54:57 > 1:55:02saying, it does feel like my personality. Losing my hair, I was

1:55:02 > 1:55:07losing my personality, who I was.It is part of you, isn't it? Let me

1:55:07 > 1:55:15read some messages before I bring in Greg. Slow tablet! I will talk to

1:55:15 > 1:55:19Greg while it sorts itself out.What was your worry? If you can believe

1:55:19 > 1:55:24it, the law is very vague in the UK as to who can practice medicine and

1:55:24 > 1:55:31surgery.It happens in cosmetic surgery, I can believe it.It is a

1:55:31 > 1:55:35form of cosmetic surgery and animals have more protection in veterinary

1:55:35 > 1:55:40medicine laws than humans with cosmetic surgery and hair transplant

1:55:40 > 1:55:43surgery. It is very vague who can do it, and it is becoming increasingly

1:55:43 > 1:55:47popular and there are a lot of websites offering it trying to

1:55:47 > 1:55:54entice patients, a lot of misleading information. We need some statutory

1:55:54 > 1:55:56regulation about who can practice hair transplant surgery and what can

1:55:56 > 1:56:03be advertised.I will come back to that. Messages, and he says, I'm a

1:56:03 > 1:56:07DJ, 53, no less stressed to be losing my hair than anyone younger.

1:56:07 > 1:56:11I had a hair transplant in October last year and it looks much better.

1:56:11 > 1:56:16Less hair means less work on this scene. Tony says, I began losing

1:56:16 > 1:56:22head in my late 30s and it has now gone, we can send men to the moon

1:56:22 > 1:56:25and bring them back, we can transplant faces but we cannot cure

1:56:25 > 1:56:35a bald head.

1:56:35 > 1:56:37a bald head. Liz says, she lost her hair after pulling it out was

1:56:37 > 1:56:40suffering from severe stress because of being abused as a child, she says

1:56:40 > 1:56:42she has spent her whole life in therapy and only last week confessed

1:56:42 > 1:56:45it to her doctor, she now has a bald patch three inches across and my

1:56:45 > 1:56:49abuser got away with it. My hair is so embarrassing and it has ruined my

1:56:49 > 1:56:54self-confidence. I am now bald and 56 years of age. Sad to hear someone

1:56:54 > 1:57:01being so bothered about hair loss, saying it is shallow, I wonder

1:57:01 > 1:57:06whether they have a full head of hair? Cosmetic surgery, reputable

1:57:06 > 1:57:11cosmetic surgeons, they have been trying for years to get statutory

1:57:11 > 1:57:15regulations, that has not happened, is there much chance of anybody

1:57:15 > 1:57:19listening to you, I do not mean that rudely? You know what I mean!I

1:57:19 > 1:57:23think you are right, the answer is probably no, we need to educate the

1:57:23 > 1:57:29public so they know what to ask when they are choosing a hair transplant

1:57:29 > 1:57:33surgery or clinic.Is there a standard mark or list? We have not

1:57:33 > 1:57:38got a lot of time.The British Association of hair Restoration

1:57:38 > 1:57:43surgery has a website giving advice. Just last month, a joint council for

1:57:43 > 1:57:50cosmetic practitioners was launched, it has a voluntary register, you

1:57:50 > 1:57:54will be able to see if someone is registered and if you are registered

1:57:54 > 1:57:58you have to comply with the standards authority on hair

1:57:58 > 1:58:02transplant surgery and they are very good.Future for you in terms of the

1:58:02 > 1:58:07way you look, how are you thinking? Ever since I got a hair transplant,

1:58:07 > 1:58:11I feel very empowered as a woman with short hair and I am rocking it

1:58:11 > 1:58:16and I will not let it be me, I will be myself and let my hair grow back

1:58:16 > 1:58:19and be confident.Thank you so much for coming on the programme. Thank

1:58:19 > 1:58:25you. Thank you very much for watching. We are back tomorrow at

1:58:25 > 1:58:289am. Have a lovely day.