:00:13. > :00:15.Hello there and welcome to Wednesday in Parliament.
:00:16. > :00:18.Coming up - the Prime Minister defends plans to force all schools
:00:19. > :00:24.The Home Secretary is accused of scrabbling around to find
:00:25. > :00:27.money to patch up holes in the Border Force budget.
:00:28. > :00:30.And a group campaigning for the UK to leave the EU
:00:31. > :00:34.is accused of using misleading literature.
:00:35. > :00:38.Do you think it might be a good idea to think twice about putting out
:00:39. > :00:44.But first to Prime Minister's Questions where David Cameron
:00:45. > :00:47.defended his plans to force all schools in England
:00:48. > :00:51.to become academies free from local authority control.
:00:52. > :00:53.The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, attacked the idea,
:00:54. > :00:57.describing it as a "top-down reorganisation" that even senior
:00:58. > :01:04.Could the Prime Minister explain why he is
:01:05. > :01:08.intent on forcing good and outstanding schools to become
:01:09. > :01:13.academies against the wishes of teachers, parents, school governors
:01:14. > :01:20.The short answer is, because we want schools to be
:01:21. > :01:23.run by head teachers and teachers, and not by bureaucrats.
:01:24. > :01:28.But we also support it because of the clear
:01:29. > :01:34.If you look at converter academies, 88% of them
:01:35. > :01:40.And you look at schools started by academies, they see a 10%
:01:41. > :01:43.improvement on average, over the first two years.
:01:44. > :01:46.The results are better, education is improving.
:01:47. > :01:50.Every teacher, every parent, every pupil
:01:51. > :01:53.wants the best they can get for their schools and they want
:01:54. > :02:01.What many are concerned about is this top-down reorganisation.
:02:02. > :02:06.If he won't listen to the former chair of the Education
:02:07. > :02:09.Select Committee, will he listen to his friend the member for
:02:10. > :02:12.Colchester, who said this, if a school is well governed,
:02:13. > :02:16.well-run and performing well, it should be left alone
:02:17. > :02:22.Can the Prime Minister explain why good school leaders should focus
:02:23. > :02:27.their time and resources not on educating children, but on arbitrary
:02:28. > :02:35.Let me make two points on the specific issue he raises.
:02:36. > :02:39.I would say to outstanding or to good schools,
:02:40. > :02:42.they have nothing to fear from becoming academies but a huge
:02:43. > :02:47.The truth is, even about outstanding or good schools,
:02:48. > :02:50.we want them to be even better and the truth is,
:02:51. > :02:52.academies and greater independence, letting headteachers
:02:53. > :02:56.run their schools, has been hugely effective.
:02:57. > :03:00.And this is something started by the Labour government,
:03:01. > :03:04.given rocket boosters under this government.
:03:05. > :03:07.We have seen massive improvements in our schools because
:03:08. > :03:09.of academies and we say let's get on with it,
:03:10. > :03:13.finish the job and give all our children a great opportunity.
:03:14. > :03:17.Mr Speaker, we appear to be heading into some kind of fantasyland, here.
:03:18. > :03:27.The Institute for Fiscal Studies states that school spending is
:03:28. > :03:33.expected to fall by at least 7% in real terms in the next four years.
:03:34. > :03:40.So why on earth is the Prime Minister
:03:41. > :03:46.proposing to spend ?1.3 billion on a top-down reorganisation that
:03:47. > :03:49.wasn't in his manifesto, teachers don't want it,
:03:50. > :03:52.parents don't want it, governors don't want it,
:03:53. > :03:55.headteachers don't want it, even his own MPs
:03:56. > :04:01.Can't he just think again and support schools and education,
:04:02. > :04:08.Let me answer his question very directly about spending.
:04:09. > :04:12.Because we have protected spending per pupil all the way
:04:13. > :04:16.through the last Parliament and all the way through this Parliament and
:04:17. > :04:20.we are spending ?7 billion on more school places to make up for the
:04:21. > :04:24.woeful lack of action under the last Labour government.
:04:25. > :04:32.I think it is the Labour Party that this week entered
:04:33. > :04:34.fantasyland where they are now
:04:35. > :04:38.have selected somebody who sits on platforms
:04:39. > :04:42.with extremist in London, and they have now decided...
:04:43. > :04:44.When I read they were going to ban McDonald
:04:45. > :04:51.it was the first sensible decision they've made!
:04:52. > :04:53.But it turns out it wasn't the job destroyer they wanted
:04:54. > :04:56.to keep away from their conference, it was one of Britain's's
:04:57. > :05:10.Well, David Cameron made reference there to appearing
:05:11. > :05:12.on platforms with extremists, a jab at Labour's candidate
:05:13. > :05:15.for Mayor of London - Sadiq Khan - who Mr Cameron accused of appearing
:05:16. > :05:19.in public alongside an Islamic extremist.
:05:20. > :05:24.It was an accusation picked up by a Conservative MP.
:05:25. > :05:28.Does my right honourable friend agree that is the duty of all
:05:29. > :05:33.members of this House to condemn without caveat, all extremism and
:05:34. > :05:38.never, never to share a platform with any extremist?
:05:39. > :05:42.I think my honourable friend is absolutely right.
:05:43. > :05:45.If we are going to condemn and not just violent
:05:46. > :05:58.extremism but also the extremism that seeks to justify filers and
:05:59. > :06:11.it is very important that we do not back these people
:06:12. > :06:13.and we do not appear on platforms with them.
:06:14. > :06:17.And I have to say, I am concerned about Labour's candidate for Mayor
:06:18. > :06:19.of London who has appeared again and again...
:06:20. > :06:23.Well the leader of the Labour Party is saying it's
:06:24. > :06:26.Solomon Ghani, the honourable member for Tooting has
:06:27. > :06:28.appeared on a platform with him nine times.
:06:29. > :06:31.This man supports IS. He even shared a platform...
:06:32. > :06:32.Well, Mr Speaker, I think they are shouting
:06:33. > :06:35.down this point because they don't want to hear the truth.
:06:36. > :06:39.Anyone can make a mistake about who they appear
:06:40. > :06:44.We're not always responsible for what our political opponents say.
:06:45. > :06:47.But if you do it time after time after time, it is right
:06:48. > :06:55.Mr Cameron faced a wall of noise as he made those accusations.
:06:56. > :06:59.No Labour MPs stood up to counter them but speaking a short time later
:07:00. > :07:03.outside the chamber Sadiq Khan said the Tories were "running a nasty,
:07:04. > :07:06.dog-whistling campaign that is designed to divide London's
:07:07. > :07:10.He added that he had fought extremism all his life
:07:11. > :07:16.and would "keep focusing on keeping Londoners safe".
:07:17. > :07:19.Regular viewers will remember last week the Chair of the Home Affairs
:07:20. > :07:23.Committee Keith Vaz lost his patience with a senior Home Office
:07:24. > :07:27.official and dismissed him from his committee hearing.
:07:28. > :07:30.The subject which so provoked Mr Vaz was whether or not
:07:31. > :07:33.the UK Border Force had been told what its budget was for
:07:34. > :07:39.The force is part of the Home Office, responsible
:07:40. > :07:42.for front-line border control operations at air, sea and rail
:07:43. > :07:48.It's responsible for checking the immigration status of people
:07:49. > :07:53.arriving in the UK, searching bags, vehicles and cargo for illegal goods
:07:54. > :07:57.or immigrants and patrolling the UK coastline, alerting the security
:07:58. > :08:04.Labour demanded the Home Secretary come to the Commons to tell MPs
:08:05. > :08:10.Theresa May insisted Border Force spending was being "protected"
:08:11. > :08:13.compared to the previous financial year,
:08:14. > :08:22.despite Labour claims of a "revenue cut".
:08:23. > :08:27.Border Force spending to all intents and purposes is
:08:28. > :08:29.protected compared to 2015-16 with increased capital investment to
:08:30. > :08:31.improve the technology at the border, to improve security and
:08:32. > :08:36.Over the next four years, we will invest ?130 million in
:08:37. > :08:37.state-of-the-art technology at the border.
:08:38. > :08:39.Since I became Home Secretary six years ago, we have
:08:40. > :08:42.pursued an ambitious programme of reform
:08:43. > :08:44.at the border, to keep this country safe.
:08:45. > :08:47.She has been furiously backpedalling for the last two
:08:48. > :08:52.weeks, patching holes in the Border Force budget.
:08:53. > :08:55.But Mr Speaker, let's be clear about what has just been announced.
:08:56. > :08:58.She has just announced to this House a cut, a revenue cut to
:08:59. > :09:05.She has announced a budget of ?558 million.
:09:06. > :09:11.In 2012-13, the budget was ?617 million.
:09:12. > :09:15.So the budget is down by over ?50 million on her watch.
:09:16. > :09:19.That is this Home Secretary's record on border funding.
:09:20. > :09:22.The question, he said, was whether that was anywhere near enough.
:09:23. > :09:25.A whistle-blower working at the port of Immingham,
:09:26. > :09:27.the country's largest freight port,
:09:28. > :09:33.has been in touch with me to reveal
:09:34. > :09:35.that the staff of ferry companies who
:09:36. > :09:42.are carrying out her border exit checks, some
:09:43. > :09:46.That the passports of lorry drivers are not checked on arrival
:09:47. > :09:48.by anyone and worst of all, school leavers
:09:49. > :09:49.are now being recruited to
:09:50. > :09:51.check passports, replacing experienced board officers.
:09:52. > :09:59.This is the reality of what is happening at
:10:00. > :10:01.Britain's borders today under this Home Secretary.
:10:02. > :10:04.It is the direct consequence of the cuts that she has
:10:05. > :10:06.already made it to the UK border in her time in office.
:10:07. > :10:11.And unbelievably, Mr Speaker, she wanted
:10:12. > :10:14.to make even further cuts to the UK border before we
:10:15. > :10:15.on the side of the House stopped her.
:10:16. > :10:23.The Home Secretary has spent the last two weeks running scared,
:10:24. > :10:27.scrabbling for loose change behind the back of the Home of the sofa.
:10:28. > :10:32.But worse, she has weakened our borders,
:10:33. > :10:35.damaged our security and is only now pledging to stop the cuts.
:10:36. > :10:38.Well, I have to say to the right honourable gentleman that in so much
:10:39. > :10:41.of what he has said, he simply doesn't know what he's
:10:42. > :10:50.It was under Labour that we saw the creation of the
:10:51. > :10:52.dysfunctional UK Borders Agency that we had to abolish and change
:10:53. > :10:56.It was under the last Labour government
:10:57. > :10:59.that the border, at the border, there was no operating mandate and
:11:00. > :11:01.it was under the last Labour government that as people came
:11:02. > :11:04.through the primary checkpoints, they won't all getting the 100%
:11:05. > :11:08.We have enhanced security, and will continue to do so.
:11:09. > :11:12.You're watching Wednesday in Parliament, with me,
:11:13. > :11:16.The increasingly bitter EU referendum battle has
:11:17. > :11:18.produced lively scenes at a Commons committee session.
:11:19. > :11:20.The director of the Vote Leave campaign group, Dominic Cummings,
:11:21. > :11:22.called the EU institutions in Brussels undemocratic
:11:23. > :11:26.He faced claims that Vote Leave had used misleading literature,
:11:27. > :11:28.when he was questioned about leaflets distributed
:11:29. > :11:35.You are saying, in hospitals, in your literature,
:11:36. > :11:41.aren't you, that we can give a lot more money to hospitals?
:11:42. > :11:44.You are distributing leaflets to that effect?
:11:45. > :11:47.No. We're not.
:11:48. > :11:49.We are not distributing any literature
:11:50. > :11:53.So I have a piece of literature here with your logo.
:11:54. > :11:55.Is this a pirated piece of literature?
:11:56. > :12:01.It is badged up as your literature, it looks like...
:12:02. > :12:04.It says "Help protect your local hospital."
:12:05. > :12:17.And it has got here, at the bottom, Vote Leave.
:12:18. > :12:19.I'm asking a straightforward, simple question,
:12:20. > :12:21.we are getting down to very simple questions.
:12:22. > :12:23.Is this leaflet one from your organisation?
:12:24. > :12:25.Do you mean that design of leaflet, or do you mean
:12:26. > :12:29.I'm asking you if this leaflet is one of your organisation's
:12:30. > :12:33.Yes, it is. Good, we have arrived at a...
:12:34. > :12:42.Do you think that it is reasonable that somebody might misconstrue
:12:43. > :12:49.this leaflet at first glance as a leaflet produced by the NHS?
:12:50. > :12:57.Since it has an NHS logo in the top right-hand corner?
:12:58. > :12:59.No. It says "Vote Leave,take control" with our logo.
:13:00. > :13:06.What do you mean, what do I make of it?
:13:07. > :13:09.Do you think it looks like the logo of the NHS?
:13:10. > :13:11.It looks roughly like it from here, yes.
:13:12. > :13:15.Well, it looks roughly like it from any distance.
:13:16. > :13:22.Here is an NHS document, encouraging you to eat better food.
:13:23. > :13:25.And you will see that the logo is strikingly similar.
:13:26. > :13:30.It takes an expert eye to tell that the one is not the other.
:13:31. > :13:33.One of them is italicised slightly, one of them is not.
:13:34. > :13:39.Do you, now that you have had a chance to consider whether you did
:13:40. > :13:42.in fact produce this leaflet, and you have now agreed that it does
:13:43. > :13:46.look like an NHS leaflet at any reasonable distance, do you think it
:13:47. > :13:48.might be a good idea to think twice about
:13:49. > :13:51.putting literature out as misleading as this?
:13:52. > :13:56.I think you are confused about what my answer was before.
:13:57. > :13:59.I thought you were asking me, is the leaflet you are holding
:14:00. > :14:02.in your hand been put into a hospital, has
:14:03. > :14:14.that come from cars, and I was saying
:14:15. > :14:19.no, it hasn't come from us, as in, we did not distribute leaflets
:14:20. > :14:22.to hospital, we are as baffled as anyone else about the
:14:23. > :14:27.The questioning moved on to financial services.
:14:28. > :14:30.If we were to leave the EU, you may get free trade agreements,
:14:31. > :14:33.so no trade tariffs, but it's hard to see,
:14:34. > :14:35.given the comments of people like Wolfgang Schauble,
:14:36. > :14:38.the same sort of trade in services outside the European Union.
:14:39. > :14:43.I mean, you may think it is a good thing, but would
:14:44. > :14:47.You see, the most important thing with the City and
:14:48. > :14:49.financial services is that we control the wideboys
:14:50. > :14:51.and Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan who drove the economy
:14:52. > :14:57.Britain has the number one financial centre in Europe.
:14:58. > :14:59.They want to be here, using our services.
:15:00. > :15:02.There is a great incentive for them to sort out the
:15:03. > :15:04.passporting system, same as there is for us.
:15:05. > :15:06.But my main point is, that's not the most important thing.
:15:07. > :15:09.The most important thing is, we control the banks,
:15:10. > :15:11.we don't let the corrupt institutions
:15:12. > :15:17.Will the Vote Leave campaign be setting out their analysis
:15:18. > :15:22.of the macroeconomic impact of leaving the European Union?
:15:23. > :15:24.We will be publishing all sorts of things on the macroeconomic
:15:25. > :15:26.impact, but we won't be publishing these spuriously
:15:27. > :15:36.I have heard, Mr Cummings, what you won't be publishing,
:15:37. > :15:44.analysis about international trade, how we think things will improve.
:15:45. > :15:54.Macroeconomic impact assessment is not just
:15:55. > :15:56.about international trade, it is about GDP, inflation,
:15:57. > :15:58.the currency, productivity, all those range of issues,
:15:59. > :16:07.so what I am asking, Mr Cummings, and if the answer is no,
:16:08. > :16:10.you can just tell us that, will the Vote Leave campaign be
:16:11. > :16:12.setting out their analysis of the macroeconomic
:16:13. > :16:20.We will set out the analysis of the macroeconomic
:16:21. > :16:25.impacts of Brexit, but it won't look like these.
:16:26. > :16:28.I have heard, Mr Cummings, what you won't be doing.
:16:29. > :16:30.What I am asking is, what will you be publishing?
:16:31. > :16:32.You have to let me answer the question.
:16:33. > :16:33.Of course we will be publishing that.
:16:34. > :16:36.I also asked, Mr Cummings, who will be doing
:16:37. > :16:39.You will find out when we publish it.
:16:40. > :16:44.When do you intend to publish it, Mr Cummings?
:16:45. > :16:46.You will find out when we publish it.
:16:47. > :16:49.Do you think we should continue with single market access
:16:50. > :16:51.as we currently, as the United Kingdom currently have?
:16:52. > :16:54.Definitely not, because single market access as we currently have
:16:55. > :16:57.Single market access that we currently have forced us
:16:58. > :16:59.to implement the clinical trials directive, which kills an unknown
:17:00. > :17:01.number of people every year because we cannot test
:17:02. > :17:06.We would be much better off going outside things like that.
:17:07. > :17:09.Do you not see that leaving Europe puts at risk inward investment
:17:10. > :17:12.Read all of the same stuff on the euro.
:17:13. > :17:15.Well, staying with the EU referendum, not surprisingly
:17:16. > :17:18.the subject was raised at PMQS, mostly by David Cameron's
:17:19. > :17:21.First to question the PM, was veteran EU opponent,
:17:22. > :17:24.Can I ask my right honourable friend whether he agrees
:17:25. > :17:26.with the Treasury forecast issued on Monday, which warns that
:17:27. > :17:30.if we stay in the European Union, there will be 3 million more
:17:31. > :17:34.Last year, my right honourable friend and I were elected on a clear
:17:35. > :17:37.manifesto pledge to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands.
:17:38. > :17:41.How are we going to be able to deliver on that pledge unless we
:17:42. > :17:57.The point of the Treasury forecast is, it takes the Office
:17:58. > :17:59.of National Statistics figures and the ORB figures and it
:18:00. > :18:03.It is trying to make a very clear and pure argument,
:18:04. > :18:05.backed by the governor of the Bank of England yesterday,
:18:06. > :18:07.that shows what would happen if Britain leaves the EU.
:18:08. > :18:09.There is a demand out there for independent
:18:10. > :18:11.and clear statistics, and that is exactly
:18:12. > :18:14.Mrs Thatcher used to occasionally organise seminars for ministers
:18:15. > :18:16.and senior academics for colleagues like myself,
:18:17. > :18:18.whose knowledge of modern science she thought
:18:19. > :18:24.Would he contemplate similar seminars for some of his senior
:18:25. > :18:32.and very respected Cabinet colleagues with businessmen
:18:33. > :18:35.on the nature of independent international trade,
:18:36. > :18:38.because some very respected figures appear to believe that you simply
:18:39. > :18:42.turn up and sell goods and services that comply with British made rules
:18:43. > :18:45.but don't have to comply with any rules agreed with the country
:18:46. > :18:50.Back on the Eurosceptic side of the argument,
:18:51. > :18:51.another Conservative raised the forthcoming visit
:18:52. > :18:58.Would my right honourable friend point out to President Obama that
:18:59. > :19:03.in a series of European Court judgements such as Davis
:19:04. > :19:09.and Schrems, using EU data protection laws and the EU Charter
:19:10. > :19:11.of Fundamental Rights, the EU has established its jurisdiction
:19:12. > :19:14.over our intelligence data, and sought to prevent our
:19:15. > :19:27.intelligence sharing with the United States?
:19:28. > :19:29.Will he warn the president that if we vote Remain,
:19:30. > :19:32.far from the US gaining influence in the EU, the United States
:19:33. > :19:34.is losing control and influence over her closest ally?
:19:35. > :19:37.This decision is a decision for the British people
:19:38. > :19:40.We are sovereign in making this decision.
:19:41. > :19:44.Personally, I believe we should listen to advice from friends
:19:45. > :19:47.and other countries, and I struggle to find the leader
:19:48. > :19:49.of any friendly country who thinks we should leave.
:19:50. > :19:53.The so-called Islamic State group is guilty of genocide
:19:54. > :20:01.against Christian, Yazidi and other ethnic groups in Syria and Iraq.
:20:02. > :20:03.That was the view of MPs who have voted overwhelmingly
:20:04. > :20:05.in support of a motion calling on the Government to
:20:06. > :20:08.ensure the United Nations and the International Criminal Court
:20:09. > :20:11.In a backbench debate, every speaker condemned the group -
:20:12. > :20:13.also known as Daesh - for its brutality.
:20:14. > :20:17.Many set out in shocking and emotional detail atrocities
:20:18. > :20:20.Several quoted the testimony of a young Yazidi girl
:20:21. > :20:29.My father and brothers were killed in front of me.
:20:30. > :20:39.He grabbed my arm and my leg and then he raped me.
:20:40. > :20:50.He was 32 years old, I was 15.
:20:51. > :20:56.After they raped me, they took my friend and they raped her.
:20:57. > :20:58.I could hear her shouting, "Where is the mercy?
:20:59. > :21:07."There must be some mercy in their hearts."
:21:08. > :21:10.We also heard from another woman, Yvette, who had come directly
:21:11. > :21:13.She spoke of Christians being killed and tortured,
:21:14. > :21:15.of children being beheaded in front of their parents.
:21:16. > :21:18.She showed us recent film footage of her talking with mothers,
:21:19. > :21:20.and more than one who had seen her own children crucified.
:21:21. > :21:23.We know that those who are perpetrating this these crimes
:21:24. > :21:25.are doing so to exterminate and extinguish a people.
:21:26. > :21:27.We know that they mean what they are doing
:21:28. > :21:32.We know that those who are suffering these terrible crimes know
:21:33. > :21:35.that it is genocide and know that it is meant as genocide.
:21:36. > :21:38.Why should we hesitate to say as a chamber?
:21:39. > :21:41.We know what the word genocide means and we know it is being committed
:21:42. > :21:51.The word that describes the ultimate crime, only that one,
:21:52. > :21:54.single word accurately describes the full horror of what is happening
:21:55. > :21:59.here to these communities in Syria and Iraq.
:22:00. > :22:02.Madam Deputy Speaker, we all know what that word is.
:22:03. > :22:04.Let us be united, here in this House, and hopefully outside
:22:05. > :22:07.as well, and to say what is happening is genocide
:22:08. > :22:17.Here is the chance for the United Kingdom to show
:22:18. > :22:27.leadership and to take action, to stand up before, to respond
:22:28. > :22:30.leadership and to take action, to stand up, to respond
:22:31. > :22:33.to her plea for help, for all of those who have suffered.
:22:34. > :22:44.Show that, like in 1942, we will do the right thing in 2016.
:22:45. > :22:48.Or are we just going to stand back, wring our hands and watch as Daesh
:22:49. > :22:52.My honourable friend the Minister is sitting there,
:22:53. > :23:01.He is now going to give a really strong and powerful speech,
:23:02. > :23:05.he is going to condemn Daesh, he is going to say, yes,
:23:06. > :23:12.we have listened to the debate, we will listen to the House
:23:13. > :23:16.of Commons, we are going to act, and we are going to refer this
:23:17. > :23:26.But the Minister would not give that promise, but did pledge
:23:27. > :23:34.We will do everything we can to help gather evidence that could be used
:23:35. > :23:36.by the judicial bodies who are the appropriate people
:23:37. > :23:38.to judge these to make a judgement on this matter.
:23:39. > :23:41.It is vital that this is done now, before evidence is lost
:23:42. > :23:42.or indeed destroyed, because ultimately, this
:23:43. > :23:44.is a question for the courts to decide.
:23:45. > :23:47.It is not for governments to be the prosecutor, the judge
:23:48. > :23:50.or indeed of the jury, and we are playing a leading role
:23:51. > :24:19.in defeating Daesh on the battlefield,
:24:20. > :24:23.and we are also holding Daesh to
:24:24. > :24:27.In the courts, no matter how long it takes.
:24:28. > :24:30.The government has agreed to a plan put forward by Labour
:24:31. > :24:33.and the Lib Dems to protect tenants' and landlords' money in England
:24:34. > :24:36.Some letting agents don't keep deposit money in a separate,
:24:37. > :24:39.protected client account - meaning the letting agents can use
:24:40. > :24:42.the money themselves, or it can be lost if the agent goes bust.
:24:43. > :24:45.The government's been defeated a number of times on the Housing and
:24:46. > :24:48.Labour's spokeswoman explained what the compromise was that had
:24:49. > :24:52.To require every leading agent to have money they hold belonging
:24:53. > :24:54.either to the tenant, by way of advanced rent,
:24:55. > :25:02.or to a landlord as rent is received, to be protected,
:25:03. > :25:04.so thats even if the letting agent disappeared or went bankrupt,
:25:05. > :25:07.such money would be safe and made available to the landlord.
:25:08. > :25:09.Another peer explained that it was often the most
:25:10. > :25:12.Because they are vulnerable, credit checks, they do not
:25:13. > :25:14.satisfy credit checks, and so, they cannot give
:25:15. > :25:17.the guarantees that banks would very often offer,
:25:18. > :25:19.so agents often are something like four year rent in advance.
:25:20. > :25:22.Many tenants had to borrow to pay that much in advance.
:25:23. > :25:25.And even if it isn't a client's account, which internally,
:25:26. > :25:27.they make all the clients accounts, if it is not recognised
:25:28. > :25:30.as such by the bank, then those monies can and often
:25:31. > :25:32.are used by the agent for one purpose, and very often
:25:33. > :25:35.because the agent is over trading and spends more money
:25:36. > :25:37.than they should do, and they use that money.
:25:38. > :25:40.Replying to the debate the minister said the amendment would allow
:25:41. > :25:42.ministers to make regulations requiring letting and property
:25:43. > :25:45.agents to belong to a client money scheme, and set out an enforcement
:25:46. > :25:46.mechanism to ensure the changes had teeth!
:25:47. > :25:49.Which brings us to the end of this edition of the programme,
:25:50. > :25:53.but do join me at the same time tomorrow, when MPs and peers pay
:25:54. > :25:56.tribute to the Queen on her 90th birthday.