0:00:21 > 0:00:23Hello and welcome to the programme.
0:00:23 > 0:00:24Coming up:
0:00:24 > 0:00:26Jeremy Corbyn muses on David Davis's assurance that Brexit won't end
0:00:26 > 0:00:36in a Mad Max dystopia.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44Doesn't the prime Minister feel he could set the bar just a little bit
0:00:44 > 0:00:44higher?
0:00:44 > 0:00:47Theresa May comes back with a quip of her own.
0:00:47 > 0:00:50And the Health Secretary announces a review into the way medical
0:00:50 > 0:00:59problems caused by NHS treatments are handled.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02Patients and their families has been too long feeling they are not
0:01:02 > 0:01:06listened to. Making a complex situation even worse.
0:01:06 > 0:01:08But first, the exchanges between Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn
0:01:08 > 0:01:11at Prime Minister's Questions are usually a Brexit-free zone.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13But the Cabinet will be convening at the PM's country residence,
0:01:13 > 0:01:16Chequers, on Thursday to pin down the UK's future
0:01:16 > 0:01:18relationship with the EU.
0:01:18 > 0:01:22And so the Opposition Leader made an exception.
0:01:22 > 0:01:24He began with David Davis's assurance that post-Brexit,
0:01:24 > 0:01:26Britain would not descend into a war-ravaged desert
0:01:26 > 0:01:35where society has collapsed.
0:01:35 > 0:01:39Yesterday, the Brexit secretary assured the country that Brexit will
0:01:39 > 0:01:45not plunge Britain into a mad Max style world, borrowed from this post
0:01:45 > 0:01:51be a fiction. Doesn't the Prime Minister feel he could set the bar
0:01:51 > 0:02:03just a little bit higher?My Minister.As the right honourable
0:02:03 > 0:02:07gentleman knows, when we leave the European Union, we are going to be
0:02:07 > 0:02:14able to take control of our borders, our money, and are lost. And I have
0:02:14 > 0:02:19to say to him, the only fiction around in relation to Brexit and the
0:02:19 > 0:02:21European Union, is the Labour Party putt front bench who cannot even
0:02:21 > 0:02:29agree with themselves what is.He also said fears about the regulatory
0:02:29 > 0:02:37praise to the bottom were based on nothing. So, why then, did his own
0:02:37 > 0:02:41department exit polemicist State there could be opportunities for
0:02:41 > 0:02:49Britain in the regulating areas such as environment and employment law.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53Can I say to the right honourable gentleman, he talks what we actually
0:02:53 > 0:02:56want to achieve when we leave the European Union. I'll tell him what
0:02:56 > 0:03:00we want to achieve. We want to make sure this is in a country that can
0:03:00 > 0:03:04negotiate free trade deals around the world. We want to ensure that we
0:03:04 > 0:03:07have a good trade agreement with the European Union, and that is what we
0:03:07 > 0:03:10will start to negotiate. We want to ensure we have a good security
0:03:10 > 0:03:15partnership with the European union. I set out in detail in my speech in
0:03:15 > 0:03:24Munich last week.They were braving the working Time directive would
0:03:24 > 0:03:27this be scrapped, the CBI and unions are very clear that they are not
0:03:27 > 0:03:30looking for a bonfire of regulations. Quite the opposite. The
0:03:30 > 0:03:36only part that wants scrap work are the property opposite.I have been
0:03:36 > 0:03:40clear since I became prime Minister. This is a government that will not
0:03:40 > 0:03:46only protect workers' rights, but in hearts workers' rights. Let's look
0:03:46 > 0:03:49at the conservative record in government. Who was it, which
0:03:49 > 0:03:55government that was it that took action? A conservative government.
0:03:55 > 0:04:01Which government is it? That got Matthew Taylor to actually report on
0:04:01 > 0:04:06the new economy, so we assure workers get the right. A
0:04:06 > 0:04:10conservative government, not labour. Which government is it making sure
0:04:10 > 0:04:13that voices are heard on the boards of companies are the conservative
0:04:13 > 0:04:19government, not labour.I do not know if she has had the chance to
0:04:19 > 0:04:24read the daily telegraph today, but 62 of her backbenchers want a
0:04:24 > 0:04:27bonfire of regulations. Wants to destroy workers' rights, in this
0:04:27 > 0:04:31country. Halfway through the six speeches we were told would set out
0:04:31 > 0:04:37the Government's negotiating position. So far, all we have had,
0:04:37 > 0:04:46is waffle and empty rhetoric. Business need to know. People want
0:04:46 > 0:04:51to know. Even her backbenchers have demanded to know. But it is not
0:04:51 > 0:04:57clear from today's exchanges, this government is not on the road to
0:04:57 > 0:05:08Brexit, Mr Speaker, it is on the road to nowhere.Prime Minister.I
0:05:08 > 0:05:14think I have, I think I have mentioned to the right honourable
0:05:14 > 0:05:21gentleman before, that his job is to ask a question. Not to, but I am
0:05:21 > 0:05:27perfectly happy, I am perfectly happy to respond to the point that
0:05:27 > 0:05:34he made. He said that we have not set out any details. Can I suggest
0:05:34 > 0:05:39to him that he needs to think very carefully about the security
0:05:39 > 0:05:42partnership that we want with the European Union when we have left? I
0:05:42 > 0:05:47set out in my speech in Munich last week, exactly what we want that
0:05:47 > 0:05:52security partnership to cover, because we believe, we believe in
0:05:52 > 0:05:55ensuring that we are maintaining the security and safety of people here
0:05:55 > 0:06:00in the UK, but also of people in Europe.
0:06:00 > 0:06:06And she ended the exchanges with this jibe.
0:06:07 > 0:06:10Young normally he's said that every week and asked me to sign a blank
0:06:10 > 0:06:20check. I know he likes checks, but really, that is terribly...
0:06:20 > 0:06:24Downing Street later clarified that the Prime Minister
0:06:24 > 0:06:26was using what's commonly known as a 'pun'.
0:06:26 > 0:06:28The Health Secretary has announced a review into the way medical
0:06:28 > 0:06:30problems caused by NHS treatments are handled.
0:06:30 > 0:06:31He concentrated on three treatments.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34Primados Primodos is a hormone-based pregnancy test used in the sixties
0:06:34 > 0:06:35and seventies, which, it's claimed, led to
0:06:36 > 0:06:37miscarriages and birth defects.
0:06:37 > 0:06:38Sodium valproate Sodium valproate is a drug used
0:06:38 > 0:06:40to treat epilepsy which, if taken during pregnancy,
0:06:40 > 0:06:46has been linked to autism and learning difficulties.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48Mesh And vaginal mesh implants used after complications in childbirth
0:06:48 > 0:06:51which some patients complain caused crippling side effects.
0:06:51 > 0:07:01Jeremy Hunt admitted the NHS hadn't listened to patients.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05We must acknowledge that the response to the issues from those in
0:07:05 > 0:07:10authority have not always been good enough. Sometimes, the reaction is
0:07:10 > 0:07:13felt, overly focused on defending the status quo other than addressing
0:07:13 > 0:07:17the needs of patients. As a result, patients and their families have
0:07:17 > 0:07:22spent too long feeling that they were not being listened to, making
0:07:22 > 0:07:27agony of a complex medical school situation even worse. So, today, in
0:07:27 > 0:07:33addition to practical steps for each of these three cases, it all also
0:07:33 > 0:07:37setting out plans to establish a fairer, quicker and more
0:07:37 > 0:07:40compassionate way of addressing issues when they arise.
0:07:40 > 0:07:46Mr Hunt stopped short of announcing a full public inquiry.
0:07:46 > 0:07:53Young we have heard that implants lead women in pain. This is an
0:07:53 > 0:07:56ongoing public health scandal, and we hope the Government will do much
0:07:56 > 0:08:01more to support those affected. Now, Meche has been suspended in
0:08:01 > 0:08:04Scotland, and in other countries around the world. I understand Meche
0:08:04 > 0:08:10has been paused for use in case of prolapse. Will they consider fully
0:08:10 > 0:08:17suspending mashed totally while this review is carried out?When it comes
0:08:17 > 0:08:22to mash, there is no EU country that has banned its use, and indeed, Mr
0:08:22 > 0:08:27alias and New Zealand, they have not, in my understanding, introduced
0:08:27 > 0:08:32a full band. We have taken very clear advice. We obviously have a
0:08:32 > 0:08:34responsibility to all patients and medical advice from the chief
0:08:34 > 0:08:40medical officer is very clear, that some women do benefit from Meche, if
0:08:40 > 0:08:44it is appropriately used, and so, we are following that advice.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46Several MPs were worried about the way previous
0:08:46 > 0:08:49investigations had been handled, particularly in relation to the drug
0:08:49 > 0:08:56used as a pregnancy test.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59Half of my constituents, and I think the Minister for this step in the
0:08:59 > 0:09:06right direction statement. By announcing another review, can he
0:09:06 > 0:09:11reassure the House that one of these reviews can investigate the cover-up
0:09:11 > 0:09:17we know has occurred over decades of Primodos, and if a crime has been
0:09:17 > 0:09:24created, it will be dealt with.The difficulty in the case of Primodos,
0:09:24 > 0:09:27and this is important to families concerned, is the fact that
0:09:27 > 0:09:33scientist did not agree about the issue, and so, because of that, we
0:09:33 > 0:09:38do, unfortunately, find ourselves having to review what has happened,
0:09:38 > 0:09:41and the expert working group was the first attempt to do that. But we are
0:09:41 > 0:09:46going to give them a free hand to look at that, and any other evidence
0:09:46 > 0:09:50that has come to light, and draw her own conclusions.
0:09:50 > 0:09:51One MP wasn't happy
0:09:51 > 0:09:52about the Conservative peer who's
0:09:52 > 0:09:56been chosen to lead the review.
0:09:56 > 0:10:02Young is the Secretary concerned, and as a director of the company,
0:10:02 > 0:10:06which specialises in introducing pharmaceutical companies into how
0:10:06 > 0:10:09they can most effectively lobby Parliament, what was that due to
0:10:09 > 0:10:14victims who start off being incredibly suspicious of ourselves
0:10:14 > 0:10:18in this House and the NHS establishment?I do not think anyone
0:10:18 > 0:10:23has a better track record than her for campaigning for women's health
0:10:23 > 0:10:27issues. She has shown in her career, absolute willingness to take on the
0:10:27 > 0:10:31establishment am a the is scientific establishment, when she thinks it is
0:10:31 > 0:10:35the right things to do. She does it with a great deal of knowledge and a
0:10:35 > 0:10:38huge amount of passion, so I have every confidence that she will do a
0:10:38 > 0:10:39good job.
0:10:39 > 0:10:45You're watching Wednesday in Parliament with me, Mandy Baker.
0:10:45 > 0:10:48The Defence Secretary, Gavin Williamson, says the world
0:10:48 > 0:10:51'got caught napping' when it came to the rising threat
0:10:51 > 0:10:53from states like Russia.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56Mr Williamson was making his first appearance in front of the committee
0:10:56 > 0:10:58that scrutinises the work of his department.
0:10:58 > 0:11:06He was asked about the challenges facing world security and stability.
0:11:06 > 0:11:16The Americans said that since Christmas, the priority is potential
0:11:16 > 0:11:21conflicts. The French, their top priority is terrorism. We understand
0:11:21 > 0:11:30why. Where, on that sort of scale, where does the UK stand?We will
0:11:30 > 0:11:40probably seek to compromise. We would highlight a state based
0:11:40 > 0:11:45threats as the top priority, and at the speed of which they are
0:11:45 > 0:11:52escalating, but within a hair, it is followed by the terrorism threat
0:11:52 > 0:11:56that comes up straight after that. I think the world got caught napping
0:11:56 > 0:12:03in terms of arise of those state based threats. We had emerged out of
0:12:03 > 0:12:10a Cold War with the belief that things were just going to get better
0:12:10 > 0:12:15and better. You had one superpower that strode across the world, and
0:12:15 > 0:12:23you did not actually have any challenge that. We are seeing that
0:12:23 > 0:12:29change quite dramatically. You are seeing the rise of the increasing
0:12:29 > 0:12:36assertiveness of Russia. You have seen that there has been a tenfold
0:12:36 > 0:12:42increase in the amount of submarine activity in the North Atlantic on
0:12:42 > 0:12:44behalf of the Russians. You are seeing the Russians being more
0:12:44 > 0:12:49interested in the Mediterranean region. Of course, their involvement
0:12:49 > 0:13:01in the conflict in Syria. But then you are seeing new nations that are
0:13:01 > 0:13:05starting to play a greater role in the world, such as China. You are
0:13:05 > 0:13:13seeing the challenges that we face in terms of North Korea.You now see
0:13:13 > 0:13:18state based threats as perhaps the top end of your priorities. That is
0:13:18 > 0:13:25a massive change from where we will use that earlier in 2010, there was
0:13:25 > 0:13:29no existential threat to the United Kingdom. If that is the conclusion
0:13:29 > 0:13:34that you have come to, which is to some extent the conclusion that they
0:13:34 > 0:13:39have recently reached in the United States, do you accept that that has
0:13:39 > 0:13:48an important consequence in both terms of your for structure and your
0:13:48 > 0:13:57readiness?Yes it does.We are very pro what you do, find frustrating,
0:13:57 > 0:14:03is on the one hand, we argue for more resources for defence, but yet
0:14:03 > 0:14:09we see you're in, year out examples of major procurement programmes that
0:14:09 > 0:14:13still run late or go very badly over budget, despite being perennially
0:14:13 > 0:14:18told that lessons have been learned and picked up what went wrong last
0:14:18 > 0:14:23time and so on and so forth. Can you give us any confidence that as part
0:14:23 > 0:14:26of this NDP process, you are going to design a system which will
0:14:26 > 0:14:33actually remove a lot of barriers? The major theme for the programme,
0:14:33 > 0:14:40which we have conducted, gets precisely after that issue. It is
0:14:40 > 0:14:44about can we more accurately do the forecasting, can we make sure that
0:14:44 > 0:14:48we derive more stability in the programme, can we shorten the
0:14:48 > 0:14:52process to make sure we are not institutionally imparting delay,
0:14:52 > 0:14:56which in itself drives cost growth.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58Now, earlier this week the Irish Deputy Prime Minister,
0:14:58 > 0:15:00accused three leading supporters of the UK's departure
0:15:00 > 0:15:03from the European Union, among them the Labour MP Kate Hoey,
0:15:03 > 0:15:05of being 'reckless'.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08The comment came after the Brexiteers had criticised
0:15:08 > 0:15:11the Good Friday Agreement, also known as the Belfast Agreement.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14Well, on Wednesday Kate Hoey responded during a meeting
0:15:14 > 0:15:23of the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee.
0:15:23 > 0:15:30If anyone says anything, and I have said it, the best agreement could be
0:15:30 > 0:15:37refreshed, saying to kill all babies at birth, do you think it is quite
0:15:37 > 0:15:42possible in Northern Ireland to be absolutely 100% in favour of peace
0:15:42 > 0:15:49and against violence and against all the things that are spoiling
0:15:49 > 0:15:55people's lives, and yet want to have a look at how we make the
0:15:55 > 0:16:03institutions in Northern Ireland actually work better?
0:16:03 > 0:16:05Did score the remember the centrepiece.
0:16:07 > 0:16:14Seemed more focused on the get out of you
0:16:18 > 0:16:26my comment had nothing to do with Brexit. Theand I would just, the
0:16:26 > 0:16:31warning right there. But the impact that has on communities is one that
0:16:31 > 0:16:36is very destabilising. And I for one, and the people of Ireland as a
0:16:36 > 0:16:41whole, will not have a Good Friday Agreement, just to facilitate so
0:16:41 > 0:16:51that is going on between... I say in conclusion, tearing up the
0:16:51 > 0:16:55agreement, it does not do us any favours to suggest that is the case.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58Well, there was an impassioned plea for Brexit not to unravel
0:16:58 > 0:17:01the Good Friday Agreement in the Lords, from the former
0:17:01 > 0:17:04Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation.
0:17:04 > 0:17:06He said the Agreement was a remarkable document,
0:17:06 > 0:17:12that had had 'stunning' effects.
0:17:12 > 0:17:18It has brought together in a democratic forum, people who used to
0:17:18 > 0:17:25kill each other. It has and meant that people that used to behaving
0:17:25 > 0:17:30that way have been prepared to put aside their very sure wrongly dealt
0:17:30 > 0:17:31traditions.
0:17:31 > 0:17:33He was speaking at the start of ten
0:17:33 > 0:17:35days of detailed debate on the controversial EU Bill,
0:17:35 > 0:17:38which, as we all know by now, is the Bill which brings an enormous
0:17:38 > 0:17:41raft of laws generated by the EU over the past 40 years
0:17:41 > 0:17:45into UK domestic law.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47As in the Commons, peers have put forward huge numbers
0:17:47 > 0:17:50of suggested changes, but it's not expected that the Lords
0:17:50 > 0:17:52will vote very often, or even at all, on the issues
0:17:52 > 0:17:54at this stage.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57A Conservative former chancellor said he wanted
0:17:57 > 0:18:00to speak up for leaving the European Union customs union.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02The Government, he said, was aiming to strike a free trade
0:18:02 > 0:18:09agreement with the EU:
0:18:09 > 0:18:13What respect what having a free-trade agreement leave it worse
0:18:13 > 0:18:15off than it is that it is now?
0:18:15 > 0:18:16He was interrupted by a Lib Dem
0:18:16 > 0:18:19who pointed to Treasury forecasts suggesting that leaving the single
0:18:19 > 0:18:24market would make the UK economy worse off.
0:18:24 > 0:18:30The free trade agreement route still needs an unbelievably damaged
0:18:30 > 0:18:33country in every region, especially in the Northeast. And virtually in
0:18:33 > 0:18:35every single industry sector.
0:18:35 > 0:18:38Lord Lamont wasn't having that.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41I'm not when you were persuaded by just a piece of paper with a
0:18:41 > 0:18:49statistic. What matters, noble members, are they really going to
0:18:49 > 0:18:54say that this piece of paper with a statistic somehow analyses the
0:18:54 > 0:19:00product? What we are talking about, if the free-trade agreement, to the
0:19:00 > 0:19:03noble Baroness, if you have a free-trade agreement, Yemen access
0:19:03 > 0:19:04to the market.
0:19:04 > 0:19:05Lord Lamont.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07And he and all the other peers continue their work
0:19:07 > 0:19:09on the EU Bill next Monday.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11The Government has promised a new immigration system.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15This is the procedure EU citizens would use to apply
0:19:15 > 0:19:18for the new settled status, which will grant those who've spent
0:19:18 > 0:19:20five years in the UK equal rights on health care,
0:19:20 > 0:19:24education, benefits and pensions.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27The Immigration Minister said a new, digital system was being
0:19:27 > 0:19:29designed from scratch, and it should go live
0:19:29 > 0:19:36from this autumn.
0:19:36 > 0:19:40We are currently designing and testing and working with groups to
0:19:40 > 0:19:44make sure that the system is simple and straightforward as possible. I
0:19:44 > 0:19:48think that is critically important. Must be something that needs to be
0:19:48 > 0:19:52done on bone or a tablet, it has to be something that people find
0:19:52 > 0:20:00user-friendly and easy to use. You have to design them in a
0:20:00 > 0:20:07straightforward and intuitive ways possible, and we very much hope,
0:20:07 > 0:20:16that it will be going live, I think is important to emphasise that.Soon
0:20:16 > 0:20:24after Christmas, taking a bit longer than we thought presumably. It is a
0:20:24 > 0:20:32simple question, you sort of touched on it, but there are are some more
0:20:32 > 0:20:36is less technologically literate than others.There will still be
0:20:36 > 0:20:47those for possibilities for those who cannot utilise it very well. I
0:20:47 > 0:20:54sometimes take issue with the slightly age assumption that those
0:20:54 > 0:21:02where order cannot utilise technology. They my parents for
0:21:02 > 0:21:08example they can utilise it as well. But we got to be mindful,
0:21:08 > 0:21:12particularly, and it is important when designing a digital system to
0:21:12 > 0:21:16think of those who may have some accessibility issues those were
0:21:16 > 0:21:20vision impaired, learning difficulties, and we know from
0:21:20 > 0:21:23previous government, that if you deny something for someone with
0:21:23 > 0:21:30learning difficulties, then the whole population finds its... I
0:21:30 > 0:21:34think it is a really important component yet to make them as
0:21:34 > 0:21:35straightforward as he possibly can.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37Another Labour MP had concerns about the number
0:21:37 > 0:21:41of applications.
0:21:41 > 0:21:51If, as he expect it hits the deadline, will be...I gets very
0:21:51 > 0:21:54important point, and I don't think we should just be considering people
0:21:54 > 0:21:58who cannot make an application because the system failed, but there
0:21:58 > 0:22:02may be applicants and for good reason, have not been able to apply
0:22:02 > 0:22:07within the two years due to ill health. And so, we do not intend to
0:22:07 > 0:22:17be very draconian, and obviously, if there is a sort of problem with us
0:22:17 > 0:22:21managing demand, we will have a proportionate response. To those who
0:22:21 > 0:22:24have not been able to respond within the two years.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26The Committee is also looking into 'reciprocal arrangements',
0:22:26 > 0:22:29the rights of UK citizens who live in EU countries.
0:22:30 > 0:22:37We've focused hugely on people from the 27 coming here, and actually
0:22:37 > 0:22:43there has been very little commentary on British nationals who
0:22:43 > 0:22:48choose to go over to the EU. These are matters of the negotiations to
0:22:48 > 0:22:51determine. But I think it is a really important point and we must
0:22:51 > 0:22:57focus not just on the nationals were here, but also citizens who choose
0:22:57 > 0:23:05to go overseas.Because I have a direct interest in this, declaring
0:23:05 > 0:23:10an interest, if I may. I have three children, grandchildren, so for
0:23:10 > 0:23:15practical purposes I am very considerable to agree with what you
0:23:15 > 0:23:20just that. We need to protect them and be suitably protective of all
0:23:20 > 0:23:22those people who wish to come here under the rules as they are.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24The Committee Chair, and long-time eurosceptic,
0:23:24 > 0:23:25Sir Bill Cash, there.
0:23:25 > 0:23:28Labour has said the Government must assess the impact its economic
0:23:28 > 0:23:32policies have on equality.
0:23:32 > 0:23:35Speaking during a debate on the Finance Bill which puts parts
0:23:35 > 0:23:37of the budget into law, the shadow Women and
0:23:37 > 0:23:38Equalities Minister, said the government's actions
0:23:38 > 0:23:46were already having a damaging effect on women and children.
0:23:46 > 0:23:51I understand that the Prime Minister is a little bit preoccupied. She is
0:23:51 > 0:23:56a little bit we at the moment, dealing with a very serious ransom
0:23:56 > 0:24:00note at the moment. But I honestly believe that she will not be pleased
0:24:00 > 0:24:04that her legacy will be that of the hindering of women and their life
0:24:04 > 0:24:13chances. More children are homeless, more children are homeless, or
0:24:13 > 0:24:18living in temporary accommodation that at any other time since 2007,
0:24:18 > 0:24:202008 financial crash.
0:24:20 > 0:24:22A Conservative thought it would be hard to gather the impact
0:24:22 > 0:24:27information Labour wanted.
0:24:27 > 0:24:33Does the minister agree with me that to carry out these assessments, that
0:24:33 > 0:24:36it would slow down government business and that is perhaps why the
0:24:36 > 0:24:41position was put in the new clause to make it difficult for us to get
0:24:41 > 0:24:47our voices through Rosea lot of this information is not available.
0:24:47 > 0:24:51The button is not an argument for not finding information, but some of
0:24:51 > 0:24:55it is extremely difficult to actually generate. I would as far as
0:24:55 > 0:25:02my honourable friend was discussing, is a Machiavellian plan to gum up
0:25:02 > 0:25:05government processes,
0:25:05 > 0:25:07And a little later, Labour's move was defeated
0:25:07 > 0:25:12by 304 votes to 265, a government majority of 39.
0:25:12 > 0:25:13Parliamentary procedure can be a little baffling
0:25:13 > 0:25:16but the government's business managers, the whips,
0:25:16 > 0:25:20are expected to know all the rules.
0:25:20 > 0:25:21But spare a thought for Kelly Tollhurst,
0:25:21 > 0:25:25promoted to the job just last month and still getting to know what's
0:25:25 > 0:25:32what.
0:25:32 > 0:25:39as amended in the public, to be considered. Very good!
0:25:39 > 0:25:40She won't do that again!
0:25:40 > 0:25:42And that's all we've got time for.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45So from me, Mandy Baker, goodbye.