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0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to the programme.

0:00:19 > 0:00:23As Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince begins a three day visit to the UK

0:00:23 > 0:00:28there are questions for Theresa May about the UK's links to the country.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32As she makes her arms sales pitch, will she also call on the Crown

0:00:32 > 0:00:40Prince to halt the shocking abuse of human rights in Saudi Arabia?

0:00:40 > 0:00:43We have with Saudi Arabia is historic,

0:00:43 > 0:00:47it is an important one, and it has saved the lives of potentially

0:00:47 > 0:00:51hundreds of people in this country.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54Also on this programme: A call to make misogynistic

0:00:54 > 0:00:56abuse a hate crime.

0:00:56 > 0:01:00Misogyny is everywhere in our society, absolutely everywhere.

0:01:00 > 0:01:05To the point where we often miss it because it has been so normalised.

0:01:05 > 0:01:08And MPs investigate why your fake fur bobble hat may not

0:01:08 > 0:01:13be fake fur at all.

0:01:13 > 0:01:14But first.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Theresa May has defended the UK's relationship with Saudi Arabia

0:01:17 > 0:01:21at the start of a three day visit by crown prince Mohammed bin Salman.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24His schedule includes talks with Theresa May

0:01:24 > 0:01:26and lunch with the Queen.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28The Crown Prince is credited with kick-starting economic

0:01:28 > 0:01:31and social reforms in the kingdom, such as the lifting

0:01:31 > 0:01:34of the ban on women driving.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36But protestors have objected to the country's human rights

0:01:36 > 0:01:39record and its involvement in the war in Yemen.

0:01:39 > 0:01:43Jeremy Corbyn raised the visit at prime Ministers questions.

0:01:43 > 0:01:47But the session began with Theresa May updating Mps

0:01:47 > 0:01:49on the suspected poisoning of a former Russian spy

0:01:49 > 0:01:52and his daughter in Salisbury.

0:01:52 > 0:01:54The police investigation is ongoing.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56Yesterday afternoon, I chaired a meeting of the national

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Security Council where we were updated on that

0:01:59 > 0:02:03investigation which is now being led by counterterrorism police.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05And this morning, my right honourable friend,

0:02:05 > 0:02:07the Home Secretary, chaired a meeting of the Government's

0:02:07 > 0:02:10emergency committee, COBRA, and has asked police

0:02:10 > 0:02:13for an update later today.

0:02:13 > 0:02:18It was later revealed that a very rare nerve agent had been used.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20The Labour leader thanked Theresa May for the update and then

0:02:20 > 0:02:24began his first question.

0:02:24 > 0:02:26Tomorrow is International Women's Day, a chance to both celebrate how

0:02:26 > 0:02:29far we have come for equality on women, but also reflect

0:02:29 > 0:02:32on how far we have to go, not just in this country,

0:02:32 > 0:02:40but around the world.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43And with that in mind he turned to the visit of Saudi Arabia's crown

0:02:43 > 0:02:51prince Mohammed bin Salman.

0:02:51 > 0:02:54Despite much talk of reform, there has been a sharp increase

0:02:54 > 0:02:56in the arrest and detention of dissidents, torture

0:02:56 > 0:02:57of prisoners is common.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59Human rights defenders routinely sentenced to lengthy prison terms,

0:02:59 > 0:03:01unfair trials and executions are widespread as Amnesty

0:03:01 > 0:03:02International confirms.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05As she makes her arms sales pitch, will she also call on the crown

0:03:05 > 0:03:13prince to halt the shocking abuse of human rights in Saudi Arabia?

0:03:13 > 0:03:16Well, first of all, can I thank the right honourable gentleman

0:03:16 > 0:03:21for telling me that it's International Women's Day tomorrow.

0:03:22 > 0:03:27I think that's what's called mansplaining.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39I welcome, I look forward to welcoming Crown Prince Mohammed bin

0:03:39 > 0:03:42Salman from Saudi Arabia to this...

0:03:42 > 0:03:45Well, Labour backbenchers from sedentary positions

0:03:45 > 0:03:47are shouting "shame".

0:03:47 > 0:03:50Can I just say to those backbenchers that the link that we have

0:03:50 > 0:03:55with Saudi Arabia is historic, it is an important one and it has

0:03:55 > 0:04:05saved the lives of potentially hundreds of people in this country?

0:04:11 > 0:04:16that waits for a visit of the crown prince to raise.

0:04:16 > 0:04:18We do regularly monitor the situation and regularly raise

0:04:18 > 0:04:20this question with the Saudi government and we will

0:04:20 > 0:04:26continue to do so.

0:04:26 > 0:04:28started on the issue of International Women's Day,

0:04:28 > 0:04:31I welcome the fact that the crown prince will be sitting down

0:04:31 > 0:04:33with as the guest of a female Prime Minister.

0:04:33 > 0:04:35As the crown prince sweeps across Westminster and Whitehall,

0:04:35 > 0:04:38will she pledge to raise a specific case concerning the jailing

0:04:38 > 0:04:40of writer Raif Badawi, who languishes in a prison now

0:04:40 > 0:04:43for six years all because he had written something his

0:04:43 > 0:04:44government didn't like?

0:04:44 > 0:04:46His wife and children have now claimed asylum in Canada.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Will she pledge to raise his case and do something that her

0:04:49 > 0:04:51predecessor never could, stand at the dispatch box,

0:04:51 > 0:04:54say that Raif Badawi is not criminal and that Raif Badawi should

0:04:54 > 0:04:55be set free?

0:04:55 > 0:04:57Can I say to the honourable gentleman that I'll be raising

0:04:57 > 0:05:00a number of cases with the crown prince as I see him over

0:05:01 > 0:05:02the next couple of days.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05The case he specifically refers to of Raif Badawi is not something

0:05:05 > 0:05:07that waits for a visit of the crown prince to raise.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09We do regularly monitor the situation and regularly raise

0:05:09 > 0:05:13this question with the Saudi government and we will

0:05:13 > 0:05:18continue to do so.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21Jeremy Corbyn moved on from Saudi Arabia's human rights

0:05:21 > 0:05:23record to its involvement in the war in Yemen, where it's

0:05:23 > 0:05:26backing attempts to restore the country's president.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28Has suspended ourselves to Saudi Arabia, but British arms

0:05:28 > 0:05:31sales have sharply increased and British military advisors

0:05:31 > 0:05:39are directing the war.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42It cannot be right that her government, Mr Speaker, it cannot be

0:05:42 > 0:05:44right that her government is colluding in what

0:05:44 > 0:05:54the United Nations says is evidence of war crimes.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56We have a very tight arms export regime in this country.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58And when there are allegations of arms not being used

0:05:58 > 0:06:01within the law, that we expect that to be investigated and lessons

0:06:01 > 0:06:05to be learned on that.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08Theresa May, well a short time later a Foreign Office Minister came

0:06:08 > 0:06:11to the Commons to answer an urgent question, on the UK's

0:06:11 > 0:06:16relationship with Saudi Arabia.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19There will be wide spread concern across parties at the fact that the

0:06:19 > 0:06:24dictatorial head of a mid-evil, theocratic regime is being given the

0:06:24 > 0:06:28red carpet equivalent of a state visit. And I also asked if he can

0:06:28 > 0:06:34explain why the safeguards on the use of British weapons which were

0:06:34 > 0:06:38introduced at the end of the coalition at the insistence of

0:06:38 > 0:06:40myself for my liberal Democrat colleagues are apparently no longer

0:06:40 > 0:06:46being applied?We keep under strict checks to ensure that

0:06:46 > 0:06:50internationally mentoring lies abided by, to make sure that we can

0:06:50 > 0:06:53provide the support of Saudi Arabia that it needs in order to protect

0:06:53 > 0:06:54itself.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56Labour said it wanted a good diplomatic and economic

0:06:56 > 0:06:58relationship with Saudi Arabia, but with any good relationship

0:06:58 > 0:07:02there had to be honesty.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05As long as they continued the indiscriminate bombing of

0:07:05 > 0:07:09residential areas of farms, and markets in Yemen, as long as they

0:07:09 > 0:07:15continue to restrict the flow of food, medical supplies and fuels to

0:07:15 > 0:07:19a population suffering from mass epidemics of knowledge attrition and

0:07:19 > 0:07:22cholera, then they should not expect our support in that war and the

0:07:22 > 0:07:26crown prince is not deserve to have the red carpet rolled out for him

0:07:26 > 0:07:30here in Britain. Because let us look at the man who the British

0:07:30 > 0:07:35Government are bearing and scraping to today. The architect of the Saudi

0:07:35 > 0:07:38air strikes and blockade in Yemen, funding the hottie grooves in the

0:07:38 > 0:07:43Syrian civil War, ordering his cards to beat up the minute the Prime

0:07:43 > 0:07:47Minister of limit on. And the eight months since he became crown prince,

0:07:47 > 0:07:49doubling the numbers of executions in Saudi Arabia.

0:07:49 > 0:07:50The Minister said everyone wanted

0:07:50 > 0:07:53to see an end to the conflict in Yemen but simply

0:07:53 > 0:07:57calling for a ceasefire wouldn't make it happen.

0:07:57 > 0:08:02You have the facts on the ground to make sure that a cease-fire actually

0:08:02 > 0:08:05works. It is all very well for the honourable lady to shake her head.

0:08:05 > 0:08:09She is not faced with some of the issues that face of Government

0:08:09 > 0:08:13Ministers in relation to this nor is she giving full credit to the ethics

0:08:13 > 0:08:17-- efforts that are being made to try to bring this matter to an end.

0:08:17 > 0:08:23She is at the sole holder of condos in this places we deal with the

0:08:23 > 0:08:26difficulties of trying to deal with the humanitarian crisis in Yemen.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29That is what we are seeking to do and we will ban all of our efforts

0:08:29 > 0:08:32to that and continued to do so with or without her support.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35The former Labour Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, has called for police

0:08:35 > 0:08:38to investigate "criminal wrongdoing" by the Press.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42An ex-private investigator who was used by The Sunday Times has

0:08:42 > 0:08:45spoken about the activity he was involved in to obtain

0:08:45 > 0:08:47information for the paper.

0:08:47 > 0:08:52John Ford said his methods included stealing rubbish and "blagging"

0:08:52 > 0:08:55or pretending to be a bank or utilities account holder.

0:08:55 > 0:08:59The Sunday Times said it "strongly rejects" the claim that it had

0:08:59 > 0:09:03ever commissioned anyone to act illegally.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06In the Commons, Labour called for the Leveson Inquiry into press

0:09:06 > 0:09:08standards to be re-opened.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11But the Culture Secretary stuck to his announcement made last week

0:09:11 > 0:09:18that the second stage of Leveson should not go ahead.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22The fact that this activity stopped in 2010 underlines the point that

0:09:22 > 0:09:28the world has changed. Practises like these have been investigated,

0:09:28 > 0:09:32newspapers today are in a very different position to win these

0:09:32 > 0:09:36alleged offences took place. This view is in fact strengthened by

0:09:36 > 0:09:40today by the example because the behaviour we discovered today was

0:09:40 > 0:09:45before the Levinson inquiry and existing or is in place to deal with

0:09:45 > 0:09:49it. Criminal behaviour should be dealt with by the police and the

0:09:49 > 0:09:51courts and anyone who has committed a criminal offence should face the

0:09:51 > 0:09:57full force of the law.Mr Speaker, the world has not changed. The one

0:09:57 > 0:10:04rogue blackguard offence has been uttered from the knife of the

0:10:04 > 0:10:07Secretary of State. And when he announced last week that he was

0:10:07 > 0:10:10dropping the Levinson inquiry, the culture secretary said he was doing

0:10:10 > 0:10:14so because the inquiry looked into everything in this area. And it was

0:10:14 > 0:10:17followed by a three police investigations. We looked into these

0:10:17 > 0:10:21things as a society. We had a comprehensive and batch copperheads

0:10:21 > 0:10:24of inquiry. He told us that the matter was closed. There was nothing

0:10:24 > 0:10:31more to see. Well, overnight, the BBC has reported allegations by

0:10:31 > 0:10:33another whistle-blower, John Ford, who says he was a blackguard from

0:10:33 > 0:10:39the Sunday Times for 15 years.I was just a secretary when we set up the

0:10:39 > 0:10:46inquiry and we, as a second stage of the inquiry. If my right honourable

0:10:46 > 0:10:51friend would not be surprised to discover that I'd share some people

0:10:51 > 0:10:56insist -- disappointed that it was postponed. Does he really think that

0:10:56 > 0:10:59there is no longer any sufficient public interest in new allegations

0:10:59 > 0:11:07of this kind? Or knowing which newspapers were bribing, which

0:11:07 > 0:11:11policemen because it was this long ago as seven years.

0:11:11 > 0:11:12The former Labour Leader, Ed Miliband, said Sir Brian Leveson

0:11:12 > 0:11:17himself wanted the next stage of the inquiry to take place.

0:11:17 > 0:11:22Of course the police are looking at specific instances. But the

0:11:22 > 0:11:25questions are Brian is posing is what is the culture that allowed

0:11:25 > 0:11:28this practise is to happen and how can we have reassurance that that

0:11:28 > 0:11:31culture has changed? How can he had the reassurance without a Levinson

0:11:31 > 0:11:38inquiry.Clearly, not only hasn't already been a lemon -- a Levinson

0:11:38 > 0:11:44inquiry today's areas, but it has clearly changed. The fact that these

0:11:44 > 0:11:46practises change in the best ten underlines the fact that they are

0:11:46 > 0:11:51historic practises. But we have to address now is how to ensure that

0:11:51 > 0:11:55there is high-quality journalism in the years to come rather than going

0:11:55 > 0:11:58into revisiting the time when he was at the height of his powers.

0:11:58 > 0:12:03Ed Miliband unimpressed there by that answer from Matt Hancock.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06There was a call for misogyny to be treated as a hate crime,

0:12:06 > 0:12:09because Mps argued the power imbalance in society meant

0:12:09 > 0:12:13women were routinely treated as a minority.

0:12:13 > 0:12:16A debate in Westminster Hall heard that the definition of a hate crime

0:12:16 > 0:12:20should be extended to include the abuse of women,

0:12:20 > 0:12:23if they are targeted simply because of their gender.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26And there was some strong language used in this debate

0:12:26 > 0:12:31to describe such abuse.

0:12:31 > 0:12:37All forms of abuse are committed disproportionately against women and

0:12:37 > 0:12:42girls end the perpetrators are usually men. Part of what is

0:12:42 > 0:12:46stopping women achieving equality is violence against women and girls.

0:12:46 > 0:12:51This debate is about securing an extension to existing hate crime

0:12:51 > 0:12:55definitions and sentencing to better prevent violence against women. To

0:12:55 > 0:12:58support the early intervention against lower-level incidents and

0:12:58 > 0:13:01give women greater confidence and reporting the actions that too often

0:13:01 > 0:13:05have become the wallpaper of their wives.When she talks about

0:13:05 > 0:13:08misogyny, and I just wondered whether we could take it as read

0:13:08 > 0:13:13therefore that she thought that this century should also be a hate crime

0:13:13 > 0:13:17in exactly the same way and if she doesn't, could just lay why she

0:13:17 > 0:13:39thinks there should be one rule for one original for the other

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Mhairi Black then read out some of the extreme abuse

0:13:41 > 0:13:43she has received online - which, because of the language,

0:13:43 > 0:13:49we can't broadcast here.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53I've been assured multiple times because I don't have to worry

0:13:53 > 0:13:58because I am so ugly because nobody would want to rate me. All of these

0:13:58 > 0:14:03have been tailored to be because I'm a woman. We can kid ourselves that

0:14:03 > 0:14:07these are a few bad on the anonymous people on Twitter but it's not. This

0:14:07 > 0:14:08is everyday, common line which.

0:14:08 > 0:14:09This is everyday, common line which.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12The Minister for Women insisted the Government was taking

0:14:12 > 0:14:13this issue seriously, saying it had brought

0:14:13 > 0:14:16in changes such as a new law on revenge pornography.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18But...

0:14:18 > 0:14:25I do think we need to be careful. About creating laws which would

0:14:25 > 0:14:28inadvertently conflict with the principles of equality. If we were

0:14:28 > 0:14:32to have a crime in relation to gender I think we would have to

0:14:32 > 0:14:38think through very carefully whether that's applies to the whole of the

0:14:38 > 0:14:40population as opposed to half of it.

0:14:40 > 0:14:41opposed to half of it.

0:14:41 > 0:14:45Victoria Atkins, who herself came off Twitter because of the abuse

0:14:45 > 0:14:48she suffered, also said hate crimes were meant for minorities in society

0:14:48 > 0:14:52and she was hesitant to put women in that category.

0:14:52 > 0:15:01You're watching Wednesday in Parliament with me, Alicia McCarthy.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04Let's go back to prime minster's questions,

0:15:04 > 0:15:07where Jeremy Corbyn used the rest of his questions

0:15:07 > 0:15:12to tackle Theresa May over the problem of homelessness.

0:15:12 > 0:15:18In November the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced a task force and

0:15:18 > 0:15:22£20 million for three pilot schemes to hack a homelessness. I understand

0:15:22 > 0:15:28for months on the task force has not yet met. Not a penny has been spent

0:15:28 > 0:15:32on that programme. Mr Speaker, there is a homelessness crisis in this

0:15:32 > 0:15:37country. Rough sleeping has doubled since 2010. Doesn't the premise or

0:15:37 > 0:15:42think it is a little unambitious to say we're going to tackle rough

0:15:42 > 0:15:50sleeping by 2027.Can I say we are going to eliminate it. That's our

0:15:50 > 0:15:56aim by 2027. But let me just perhaps... Perhaps it would be

0:15:56 > 0:16:02helpful if I was to update, because a task force that he referred to has

0:16:02 > 0:16:11in fact met. It met today. We are funding for TA projects to help

0:16:11 > 0:16:16rough sleepers into emergency accommodations and to overcome the

0:16:16 > 0:16:19issues like mental health and substance abuse. It is why there

0:16:19 > 0:16:25have been councils around the country during severe weather

0:16:25 > 0:16:28ensuring their providing accommodation for people who are

0:16:28 > 0:16:31sleeping on the streets. But also dealing with the underlying issues

0:16:31 > 0:16:37that lead to somebody sleeping on the streets. It is why we are

0:16:37 > 0:16:41ensuring that we are implementing accounting first in a number

0:16:41 > 0:16:45regions. To put entrenched rough sleepers into accommodation as a

0:16:45 > 0:16:47first step to rebuilding their lives.

0:16:47 > 0:16:48first step to rebuilding their lives.

0:16:48 > 0:16:52Plaid Cymru has called for UK nationals to be allowed

0:16:52 > 0:16:56to keep their European Union citizenship after Brexit.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59Holding a debate in the Commons the party said that under

0:16:59 > 0:17:01the proposal, British citizens would be able to keep

0:17:01 > 0:17:04their "European identity and citizenship" either

0:17:04 > 0:17:07by protecting existing arrangements or by creating a new "associate

0:17:07 > 0:17:12European citizenship."

0:17:12 > 0:17:17The assumption so far however on both sides of the EU and the

0:17:17 > 0:17:23Government tear it is that you citizenship lapses at the Poynter

0:17:23 > 0:17:30exit the European Union. But European Union citizenship to not

0:17:30 > 0:17:37replace UK citizenship did not -- we can't force. Both continue to

0:17:37 > 0:17:40coexist. And leaving the EU does not entail the end of the EU citizenship

0:17:40 > 0:17:46for UK citizens.One thing that depresses me is that by the end of

0:17:46 > 0:17:52this Parliament perhaps uniquely, there'll be fewer opportunities and

0:17:52 > 0:17:56young people have fewer rights than those of us who sit in this

0:17:56 > 0:17:59Parliament today I've enjoyed. And that is something that we should all

0:17:59 > 0:18:02reflect on. At the end of any Parliament regardless was a

0:18:02 > 0:18:07government, regardless which party, it should be aspiration of all of

0:18:07 > 0:18:13us, and I do think the -- the young people should have more

0:18:13 > 0:18:15opportunities and better opportunities than those who went

0:18:15 > 0:18:20before them. That should always be our goal.The Government has been

0:18:20 > 0:18:25clear that the membership in the you will end on the 29th of March 20 19.

0:18:25 > 0:18:30We are content to listen to proposals from the EU on associate

0:18:30 > 0:18:34citizenship for UK nationals. However, to date this has not been

0:18:34 > 0:18:40formally proposed to the UK in the negotiations. EU treaty provisions

0:18:40 > 0:18:44state that only citizens of EU member states are able to hold you

0:18:44 > 0:18:45citizenship.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47member states are able to hold you citizenship.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50Does that woolly hat you pulled on during the cold snap last week

0:18:50 > 0:18:51have a fake fur bobble on it?

0:18:51 > 0:18:55Well if it does, be warned: that bobble may

0:18:55 > 0:18:59contain actual animal fur.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01The Environment Committee has been gathering evidence after a spate

0:19:01 > 0:19:04of cases where garments trimmed with fake fur were contaminated

0:19:04 > 0:19:07with the real thing.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10Samples sent to a laboratory were found to contain a variety

0:19:10 > 0:19:12of different animal furs, which were often cheaper

0:19:12 > 0:19:15than synthetic fibres.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17The revelations emerged after investigations

0:19:17 > 0:19:24by Sky News and the BBC.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27All the products we found were labelled as for, they were all quite

0:19:27 > 0:19:33cheap price point under the £30 mark. We have those items sent to

0:19:33 > 0:19:38the fibres expert. One of the leading experts in this area any

0:19:38 > 0:19:42identified, they ranged in terms of species from raccoons to dogs, -- to

0:19:42 > 0:19:51rabbits. Most consistent with cats for quite asked ordinarily.Because

0:19:51 > 0:19:56fake fur does feel very much like real fall -- for. To the naked eye

0:19:56 > 0:20:00and to feel you would necessarily tell the difference would you. No,

0:20:00 > 0:20:06absolutely. And what we've told people about the accuser used to

0:20:06 > 0:20:11tell fake fur, these completely unreliable cues. Including price.

0:20:11 > 0:20:18People using price to indicate fake fur. Including colour like bright

0:20:18 > 0:20:29pink. All the queues of people using our unreliable. It was a range of

0:20:29 > 0:20:39reactions. Some were left crying, frankly.I'm an animal rights

0:20:39 > 0:20:45already constructing a somebody would... We can reveal that she sold

0:20:45 > 0:20:50us with pom-poms made with rabbits. We took that to her. She burst into

0:20:50 > 0:20:54tears. She said she would never do that. She takes in strays or sell.

0:20:54 > 0:20:58Then she admitted on camera that she hadn't even asked her supplier

0:20:58 > 0:21:04whether it was fake fur. John done any fake check -- any checks. Have

0:21:04 > 0:21:10master any paperwork.I break that story in April, December admittedly

0:21:10 > 0:21:15different brands. But rivals were still being found. Although they

0:21:15 > 0:21:18were small in number. These are big brands that you would expect to have

0:21:18 > 0:21:19these checks.

0:21:19 > 0:21:20these checks.

0:21:20 > 0:21:26So what did the shops have to say?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28I figure the challenge is about understanding the nature of the

0:21:28 > 0:21:33problem. So on that resetting the nature of the problem. The supply

0:21:33 > 0:21:36chains are being contaminated because the real furs than the fake

0:21:36 > 0:21:40fur. With something that only came to light Willie with the Sky News

0:21:40 > 0:21:47inquiry. So knowing that...So back in 2015 you are alerted to this, as

0:21:47 > 0:21:53all your you're saying?Nothing was happening in that way. Such that in

0:21:53 > 0:22:05the choice of material we were expected to be a fabric that...It's

0:22:05 > 0:22:09interesting that you now feel it's necessary, but you didn't feel is

0:22:09 > 0:22:15necessary in 15, because otherwise in 17 it wouldn't have been in your

0:22:15 > 0:22:20shop and Skype -- and Sky News with the fat in the BBC wouldn't have had

0:22:20 > 0:22:29it. His board to carry on when the heat dies down. Will you go back to

0:22:29 > 0:22:35having some real fur traitorous fake fur?With complete respect what our

0:22:35 > 0:22:41systems have been a place in 2015 they continue. Each step if

0:22:41 > 0:22:43something happens we learn and we improve the system.

0:22:43 > 0:22:44improve the system.

0:22:44 > 0:22:45Dorothy Maxwell

0:22:45 > 0:22:46from House of Fraser

0:22:46 > 0:22:49Finally for now to the Lords, where fears were raised that music

0:22:49 > 0:22:52was being pushed out of school curriculums in England.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55The education minister insisted money was going in to make sure

0:22:55 > 0:23:01children still took up the subject.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05Between 2016 and 2020 we are providing £300 million of funding

0:23:05 > 0:23:10for music education. To ensure all pupils have the opportunity to learn

0:23:10 > 0:23:14an instrument, saying, and perform regularly, and have access to clear

0:23:14 > 0:23:22roots of progression.In the last year a low in England but it fell by

0:23:22 > 0:23:328%. Is he aware that a survey of six and a half thousand schools,

0:23:32 > 0:23:40teachers held the EU for this decline.There's no evidence that

0:23:40 > 0:23:48the subject of the client... Did the proportion of time spent studying

0:23:48 > 0:23:54music has remained broadly stable since 2010.When there is so much

0:23:54 > 0:23:58concern about child and adolescent mental health would he accept that

0:23:58 > 0:24:03it is important that within schools there opportunities for children to

0:24:03 > 0:24:07participate in music for the therapeutic and social benefits they

0:24:07 > 0:24:12convey his, and that is particularly true of performing music groups.My

0:24:12 > 0:24:19own Academy trust I appointed, director music just before a point

0:24:19 > 0:24:27just an acid to give me his early feedback. But he has said on

0:24:27 > 0:24:31listening -- pupils find listening easier, listening longer. Pupils

0:24:31 > 0:24:40readily try new things. Improved multitasking skills. And in relation

0:24:40 > 0:24:44to extracurricular ensemble, he talks about pupils being better able

0:24:44 > 0:24:46to understand commitment, time management, perseverance, and

0:24:46 > 0:24:54cooperation.Can you see why facilities are so much worse than

0:24:54 > 0:24:57they are in many private schools. A situation which would be reversed by

0:24:57 > 0:25:02that premium. Wars of the case of the conservative government is quite

0:25:02 > 0:25:14content for the study of music to be the preserve of the wealthy?As to

0:25:14 > 0:25:22music in schools.The commitment to music remains. They are supporting

0:25:22 > 0:25:26some 14,000 ensemble across the country.

0:25:26 > 0:25:27Lord Agnew.

0:25:27 > 0:25:31And that's it from us for now, but do join me on BBC Parliament

0:25:31 > 0:25:34on Thursday night at 11 for a full round up of the day at Westminster,

0:25:34 > 0:25:36when it's environment questions in the Commons

0:25:36 > 0:25:38and both houses hold debates marking international women's day.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41But for now from me, AM goodbye.