0:00:19 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to the programme.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22Coming up,
0:00:22 > 0:00:24the Foreign Secretary compares President Putin's approach
0:00:24 > 0:00:26to the World Cup in Russia to Hitler's use
0:00:26 > 0:00:32of the 1936 Olympic Games.
0:00:32 > 0:00:38The comparison with the 1936 is certainly right.It is a medic
0:00:38 > 0:00:39prospect frankly.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42How is the Health Secretary going to fund pay rises for more
0:00:42 > 0:00:46than a million NHS staff in England?
0:00:46 > 0:00:51How is the Prime Minister is "The skills grown a set magic money tree?
0:00:51 > 0:00:52-- cinematic skills.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55And Theresa May says claims that a British company harvested personal
0:00:55 > 0:00:59data from Facebook users must be properly examined.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02The allegations are clearly very concerning as it is right. They
0:01:02 > 0:01:04should be properly investigated.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07But first, the UK's relationship with Moscow has been under
0:01:07 > 0:01:09the spotlight since the poisoning of the former Russian double
0:01:09 > 0:01:12agent and his daughter in Salisbury earlier this month.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14A complicating factor is of course that Russia is hosting
0:01:14 > 0:01:17the World Cup this summer.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20Facing the Foreign Affairs Committee, Boris Johnson was asked
0:01:20 > 0:01:24about the safety of those travelling to the tournament and indeed
0:01:24 > 0:01:30whether the England squad should go at all.
0:01:30 > 0:01:35On balance, it would be wrong to punish them or the team who worked
0:01:35 > 0:01:40on this for a long time incredibly hard, given up their lives to it, I
0:01:40 > 0:01:46think it would be a pity for them. But your point about the safety of
0:01:46 > 0:01:52bands as well-made and taken. This is of crucial importance to us. Can
0:01:52 > 0:01:57we do indeed need to have an urgent conversation with the Russians about
0:01:57 > 0:02:03how they propose to fulfil their obligations under their feet the
0:02:03 > 0:02:07contractor look after all fans. -- their Fifa contract.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09A Labour MP was dubious about the championships
0:02:09 > 0:02:10being staged in Russia.
0:02:10 > 0:02:20They got the right. Putin will use it the way he they used the Nokia 36
0:02:20 > 0:02:25Olympics. The idea that Putin handing over a World Cup to the
0:02:25 > 0:02:28captain of the winning team is...I think you characterisation of what
0:02:28 > 0:02:35is going to happen into Moscow's at the World Cup, I think the
0:02:35 > 0:02:43comparison with 1936 is certainly right. I think it is a big prospect
0:02:43 > 0:02:52to think of Putin glorying in this sporting event.
0:02:52 > 0:02:54The Foreign Secretary said the safety of fans
0:02:54 > 0:02:57was uppermost in his mind.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01One of the consequences of the expulsions that we had from Moscow.
0:03:01 > 0:03:10We lost our officer who was going to be responsible for the fans. You can
0:03:10 > 0:03:13imagine anything more counterproductive than the UK's
0:03:13 > 0:03:22ability to help fans in Russia. There is an issue. I will not hide
0:03:22 > 0:03:26it from this committee. There is a discussion. We need to consider that
0:03:26 > 0:03:31issue and at the moment as I say the numbers of applicants for tickets
0:03:31 > 0:03:37are well down where we were at Brio, and a considerable amount of fans to
0:03:37 > 0:03:43want to go and we have to think of the welfare.There are fans who will
0:03:43 > 0:03:47be gone to places like Rome, which they will be exposed to hotbeds of
0:03:47 > 0:03:49Russian nationalism. That's not going to places where they will be
0:03:49 > 0:03:57exposed. Those journeys...Mr Austin has a good point. That is featured.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01Are right. We are thinking about all of this.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03Boris Johnson was also asked about the Salisbury attack itself.
0:04:04 > 0:04:13Why do you think Putin and Russia felt able to undertake such a
0:04:13 > 0:04:18brazen, despicable, illegal attack on British soil?It was a sign that
0:04:18 > 0:04:25President Putin or a Russian state wanted to give to potential
0:04:25 > 0:04:28defectors in their own agency, saying this is what happens to you
0:04:28 > 0:04:31if you decide that you support a country with a different set of
0:04:31 > 0:04:36values, such as our own. You can expect to be assassinated. And I
0:04:36 > 0:04:43think the reason they picked the United Kingdom is very simple. It is
0:04:43 > 0:04:46because this is a country that does have that particular set of values
0:04:46 > 0:04:52and belief and freedom and an democracy and in the rule of law.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56And a half time and again called out Russia over its abuses of those
0:04:56 > 0:05:02values. You could argue there aren't saying this as being weak.And we
0:05:02 > 0:05:11are desperate to look the other way. Rather than seeing bin Asia Russia's
0:05:11 > 0:05:19precedents in other countries. -- Saint Russia's depressants another
0:05:19 > 0:05:23country.Regardless would happen 12 years ago after the living echo
0:05:23 > 0:05:27assassination, most people I think both sides of the comments, all
0:05:27 > 0:05:30backbenches that I listen to last Wednesday overwhelmingly approved by
0:05:30 > 0:05:38the response the UK is issuing this time. And it's been a mixture of
0:05:38 > 0:05:41Burma, diplomatic responses. The biggest expulsion of undeclared
0:05:41 > 0:05:48Russian agencies since the 1980s. Coupled with a series of measures,
0:05:48 > 0:05:54designed to push back on the Russia and all sorts of ways.What are your
0:05:54 > 0:05:59plans in terms of communication in light of what has happened?Things
0:05:59 > 0:06:04will be very difficult politically for a while to come. But that does
0:06:04 > 0:06:07not mean the whole contact must be stopped and all engagement must be
0:06:07 > 0:06:08stopped.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Boris Johnson gave his assessment of the UK's
0:06:10 > 0:06:11relationship with Russia now.
0:06:11 > 0:06:22We do not wish to engage in a new Cold War. I remember the old Cold
0:06:22 > 0:06:29War. It was a pretty miserable time. I grew up genuinely worrying that
0:06:29 > 0:06:35the world, our country was going to be evaporated and eight
0:06:35 > 0:06:39thermonuclear strike. I don't think we faced that kind of existential
0:06:39 > 0:06:44threat. But it is a thread nonetheless. -- it is a thread
0:06:44 > 0:06:44nonetheless.
0:06:44 > 0:06:45The Foreign Secretary.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49The Health Secretary has said a pay rise for more than a million NHS
0:06:49 > 0:06:51staff in England recognises they're working harder than ever.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53Nurses, midwives, paramedics, cleaners and porters will be among
0:06:53 > 0:06:55those receiving at least six and a half % over
0:06:55 > 0:06:56the next three years.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59Answering an urgent question about the deal, Jeremy Hunt said
0:06:59 > 0:07:04rarely had a pay rise been so well deserved.
0:07:04 > 0:07:08The whole House will want to pay tribute to the hard work of NHS
0:07:08 > 0:07:14staff up and down the country during one of the most difficult winters in
0:07:14 > 0:07:19living memory. And today's agreement on a new pay deal reflects public
0:07:19 > 0:07:23appreciation for just how much they have done and continue to do.
0:07:23 > 0:07:27However, it is much more than that. The agreement with Woods in a trade
0:07:27 > 0:07:30unions have recommended to the members today is a something for
0:07:30 > 0:07:36something guilt whisperings and profound changes in productivity in
0:07:36 > 0:07:41exchange for significant rises in pay. Staff, trade unions and the
0:07:41 > 0:07:46Labour Party have today been vindicated in saying a pay rise is
0:07:46 > 0:07:51long overdue.But one we have seen nurses and paramedics, midwives
0:07:51 > 0:07:56losing thousands of pounds in the value of their pay, but we heard
0:07:56 > 0:08:00stories of NHS staff turning to food banks, we have 100,000 vacancies
0:08:00 > 0:08:04across the service, and more nurses leaving the profession that had
0:08:04 > 0:08:08rain, wind must have spent billions on agency staff than this pay cut it
0:08:08 > 0:08:15should have been scrapped years ago. Then I also write to recognise and
0:08:15 > 0:08:17remember back in 2009, labour's or depression busting economy into the
0:08:17 > 0:08:24biggest and most of economic charges we have faced. As a result of our
0:08:24 > 0:08:28stewardship and support of the NHS through that period, like many other
0:08:28 > 0:08:33countries, and cut their health spending, we secured 200,000 jobs
0:08:33 > 0:08:38and the NHS and now we can start rewarding them for their hard work.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41I will come the fact that the NHS workers in England were finally
0:08:41 > 0:08:46receiving a pay rise they deserve. Health is the bald to do was
0:08:46 > 0:08:51government and so could the secretary clarify how much of this
0:08:51 > 0:08:54additional funding is new funding and also with the consequential will
0:08:54 > 0:08:55be for the was government?
0:08:55 > 0:08:58Jeremy Hunt said the normal Barnett Formula, which dictates how
0:08:58 > 0:09:00funding from Westminster is allocated to the devolved
0:09:00 > 0:09:04governments, would apply.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08We have not had a functioning assembly for 14 months. We've had no
0:09:08 > 0:09:14Health Minister for 14 months! The how can the hard-working members of
0:09:14 > 0:09:19any NHS staff in Northern Ireland benefit from this new pay deal? With
0:09:19 > 0:09:22the Secretary of State commit to speaking to his Cabinet colleague
0:09:22 > 0:09:26who I'm delighted to see on the bench here today. To make sure that
0:09:26 > 0:09:32NHS staff in Northern Ireland seat the benefits of this deal today.The
0:09:32 > 0:09:37rise is deserved. Welcome and overdue. But without a long-term
0:09:37 > 0:09:42plan for funding health and care, this is announcement will not be
0:09:42 > 0:09:47trusted. Do that he agreed that we need a new deal to refresh the
0:09:47 > 0:09:50vision for the 21st-century and should we be prepared to be honest
0:09:50 > 0:09:54with the British people is a this will involve a modest but clear
0:09:54 > 0:09:57increase in taxation?Will need to find a way of getting more money
0:09:57 > 0:10:01into the NHS and social care system in the future as we paste pressures
0:10:01 > 0:10:05of an ageing population. And we need to the best way to do that.
0:10:05 > 0:10:06Jeremy Hunt.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08Now Prime Minister's Question Time is supposed to be one
0:10:08 > 0:10:09of the highlights of the week.
0:10:09 > 0:10:13But on Wednesday some MPs were very slow to take their places
0:10:13 > 0:10:16on the green benches and some even left before the end.
0:10:16 > 0:10:20To top it all, a little boy brought in as guest of a Labour MP to watch
0:10:20 > 0:10:22democracy in action fell asleep on his father's lap
0:10:22 > 0:10:24in the visitors' gallery.
0:10:24 > 0:10:28In the chamber below there was more than a hint of local election
0:10:28 > 0:10:32campaigning in the air.
0:10:32 > 0:10:38Thus the Prime Minister believed that the collapse in Northampton
0:10:38 > 0:10:42town so that the basalt of the incompetents at a local level or is
0:10:42 > 0:10:48it conservative incompetents at a national level?That has been the
0:10:48 > 0:10:50report into Northamptonshire County Council but let's look at what we
0:10:50 > 0:11:00see across the board and councils. Yes, yes. If you look at what is
0:11:00 > 0:11:04happening and councils up and down this country, there is one message
0:11:04 > 0:11:09for everybody. And that is the conservative councils costume last!
0:11:09 > 0:11:15Jeremy Corbyn! Mice question was actually quite specific to
0:11:15 > 0:11:19Northamptonshire, Mr Speaker.That's what my question. The tour leader
0:11:19 > 0:11:24said we've been warning the Government for about 2000 13 and 14,
0:11:24 > 0:11:30we couldn't cope with the level of cuts we are facing. Three years ago,
0:11:30 > 0:11:34that counsel Brackett was pioneering an easy council model. It then
0:11:34 > 0:11:42proceeded to outsource 96% of his council staff, transferred them the
0:11:42 > 0:11:44new service providers, run by private companies, paying dividends,
0:11:44 > 0:11:50now that counsel has gone bust. That's the Prime Minister really
0:11:50 > 0:11:53believe that the slash and burn model for local government is really
0:11:53 > 0:12:00a good one?Can I say to the right honourable gentleman, first of all
0:12:00 > 0:12:07it will be helpful if he accurately reflected the independent statutory
0:12:07 > 0:12:12inspection was concluded last week. Which was the report was clear that
0:12:12 > 0:12:20Northamptonshire's failure is not a case of underfunding. So his
0:12:20 > 0:12:28claims... Indeed, no temperature's core spending power is set to rise
0:12:28 > 0:12:34by 14 and a half million pounds. I say to the right honourable
0:12:34 > 0:12:38gentleman, the attack that he is making that this is all about the
0:12:38 > 0:12:42amount of money the Government is providing is not correct. What we
0:12:42 > 0:12:51are answering, what we are ensuring is that councils are able to provide
0:12:51 > 0:12:56the services down the country and that is what we seek with councils,
0:12:56 > 0:12:59conservative councils of and down the country costing people last than
0:12:59 > 0:13:01labour.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03Jeremy Corbyn said the government had prioritised tax cuts
0:13:03 > 0:13:05for the super rich and big business over funding for councils.
0:13:06 > 0:13:11Theresa May hit back.
0:13:11 > 0:13:14We all know what labour it would mean for council tax payers because
0:13:14 > 0:13:25just this week, the shadow community Secretary... Oh, he says. LAUGHTER
0:13:28 > 0:13:33Could that be because he doesn't want people to know what he is
0:13:33 > 0:13:39supporting? Because he has supported a plan to stop local taxpayers
0:13:39 > 0:13:46having the right to stop tax hikes, he is supporting a plan to introduce
0:13:46 > 0:13:51a land value tax, a tax on your home and George garden! And he wants to
0:13:51 > 0:13:54introduce a new hotel tax! We know what would happen in the labour.
0:13:54 > 0:13:59More taxes and ordinary working people would pay the price.This
0:13:59 > 0:14:03conservative government/ public services. They cut funding and!
0:14:03 > 0:14:09Councils to pick up the pieces. The result of this is children's centres
0:14:09 > 0:14:14are closing, schools are struggling, fewer police on the streets, older
0:14:14 > 0:14:18people being left without care or dignity. And refugees turning women
0:14:18 > 0:14:25away. The Tories own head of local government says it is unsustainable.
0:14:25 > 0:14:33And doesn't it tell you everything you need to know about this
0:14:33 > 0:14:38government? That it demands households and businesses pay more
0:14:38 > 0:14:39to get less!
0:14:39 > 0:14:41The Prime Minister replied that the economy was strong
0:14:41 > 0:14:43under the Conservatives, which meant more money for schools
0:14:43 > 0:14:44and hospitals than ever before.
0:14:44 > 0:14:56You're watching Wednesday in Parliament with me, Mandy Baker.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58Dozens of alleged victims of abuses by undercover police have walked out
0:14:58 > 0:15:01of a public inquiry at the High Court.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04They said not enough officers were being named
0:15:04 > 0:15:09and that they had no confidence in the inquiry's chairman.
0:15:09 > 0:15:11The review relates to undercover police officers who formed sexual
0:15:11 > 0:15:14relationships to help them infiltrate certain groups.
0:15:14 > 0:15:20The concerns were echoed in the Lords.
0:15:20 > 0:15:26Over a period of 24 years from 1985 to 2009, almost every single year,
0:15:26 > 0:15:29there was a state-sponsored sexual relationship between a police
0:15:29 > 0:15:32officer and a woman who at no point was accused of doing anything
0:15:32 > 0:15:35illegal, not arrested, not accused.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37I just don't understand how the Minister can sit back and think
0:15:38 > 0:15:40that this is all right.
0:15:40 > 0:15:44This strikes at the heart of the ethics and the integrity
0:15:44 > 0:15:47of our police forces, and of course, our security
0:15:47 > 0:15:53services, and I must stress that the cases we know
0:15:53 > 0:15:55about are the only ones we have heard about
0:15:55 > 0:15:57because they are the only police names in the public realm.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59We don't know all of them.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01Until we know the police undercover names, we won't know
0:16:01 > 0:16:06how me victims there were.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09I have been made aware of that walk-out and I am aware
0:16:09 > 0:16:11that the hearings are still ongoing and I would encourage
0:16:11 > 0:16:13all core participants and indeed anyone impacted by undercover
0:16:13 > 0:16:15policing to participate fully in the inquiry so that we
0:16:15 > 0:16:18can learn the lessons and get to the truth.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20And the minister was asked if procedures were now in place
0:16:20 > 0:16:26to make sure similar practices wouldn't be repeated.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29My Lords, I would love to stand at this despatch box and say that
0:16:29 > 0:16:37certain things could never happen again, but nobody can legislate
0:16:37 > 0:16:41for the odd rogue undertaking or malicious intent of people
0:16:41 > 0:16:43and therefore, one cannot be absolutely certain it
0:16:43 > 0:16:47will never happen again.
0:16:47 > 0:16:50What one can do is put measures in place to try and mitigate
0:16:50 > 0:16:52as far as possible that it never happens again.
0:16:52 > 0:16:55The Minister also thought it was important for the officers
0:16:55 > 0:16:57to retain their anonymity and said the Home Secretary had full
0:16:57 > 0:17:03confidence in the chairman to carry out the inquiry.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05Companies that deliberately put workers' pensions at risk will face
0:17:05 > 0:17:09fines and even criminal sanctions, a Cabinet minister has warned.
0:17:09 > 0:17:13The construction firm Carillion collapsed in January with a pensions
0:17:13 > 0:17:15deficit of almost £600 million and hundreds of unfinished
0:17:15 > 0:17:18public contracts.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21The Work and Pensions Secretary, told a joint committee of MPs
0:17:21 > 0:17:23that the pensions regulator will soon have tougher powers
0:17:23 > 0:17:29to deal with situations like that.
0:17:29 > 0:17:35Should anybody do anything to weaken or recklessly put their pension
0:17:35 > 0:17:42scheme into difficulties, then those people will get either
0:17:42 > 0:17:44either penalties or now, a criminal sanction for what they have done.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47So this is about strengthening the regulator.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50It is about giving them powers to investigate more.
0:17:50 > 0:17:56It is about putting them on the front foot, and also,
0:17:56 > 0:17:59being able to enforce a funding standard, and as I said,
0:17:59 > 0:18:01there will be a very clear message that should you not
0:18:01 > 0:18:04adhere to what you should be doing for your pensioners,
0:18:04 > 0:18:08then there will be sanctions and criminal prosecution.
0:18:08 > 0:18:14But MPs suggested that regulators had not done enough.
0:18:14 > 0:18:21It became a joke, Peter crying wolf. It worries us that if the industry
0:18:21 > 0:18:30knows that Peter will only ever cry Wolf
0:18:30 > 0:18:32Lord knows what else is out there, because they would be
0:18:32 > 0:18:33absolutely toothless.
0:18:33 > 0:18:37I'm going to defend what they didn't do and I think it's important that
0:18:37 > 0:18:39if you do have powers, that you should use them.
0:18:39 > 0:18:43I know you can't always judge what was happening in 2013
0:18:43 > 0:18:48with what was happening in 2018, and there's always a very fine
0:18:48 > 0:18:50balance that I guess the regulator was seeking to strike
0:18:50 > 0:18:55between the ongoing sustainability of a business,
0:18:55 > 0:18:58because everybody would say the best way to protect their pension scheme
0:18:58 > 0:19:03going forward is to make sure you've got a viable, strong business.
0:19:03 > 0:19:05However, that balance in those instances, you're right.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09They said they could have done more.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11Hindsight's a wonderful thing, but again, moving forward,
0:19:11 > 0:19:13they will need to do more and they've now got
0:19:13 > 0:19:18stronger powers to do more.
0:19:18 > 0:19:20During the same hearing the Business Secretary
0:19:20 > 0:19:30was challenged over the dominance of the big four accounting firms:
0:19:34 > 0:19:39I think it is an important question. As I say, it has been looked at
0:19:39 > 0:19:45recently.I would suggest it is not really working.
0:19:45 > 0:19:51Are you in favour of breaking them up, Greg?
0:19:51 > 0:19:53I don't want to answer that without having considered advice
0:19:53 > 0:19:59on the consequences.
0:19:59 > 0:20:05In general, I agree with your fellow chair that more competition tends
0:20:05 > 0:20:08to act in the interest of consumers and of innovation, I would say,
0:20:08 > 0:20:13and in general, when you have concentrated markets,
0:20:13 > 0:20:23that is, that is not a good state of affairs, but I think it is,
0:20:23 > 0:20:25it would be proper to consider in your joint committee
0:20:25 > 0:20:31and the select committee may well want to, as I will,
0:20:31 > 0:20:34take an interest in whether further reforms are needed, including
0:20:34 > 0:20:35the suggestion you made.
0:20:35 > 0:20:36Greg Clark.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38The Prime Minister has said allegations that the political
0:20:38 > 0:20:40consultancy, Cambridge Analytica, misused information
0:20:40 > 0:20:50about millions of Facebook users are "very concerning".
0:20:50 > 0:20:51They should be properly investigated.
0:20:51 > 0:20:53It's right that the information Commissioner is doing exactly that,
0:20:53 > 0:20:56because people need to have confidence in how their personal
0:20:56 > 0:20:58data is being used.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00And I would expect Facebook, Cambridge Analytica
0:21:00 > 0:21:04and all organisations involved to comply fully
0:21:04 > 0:21:06with the investigation that is taking place.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08She was challenged about her party's links to Cambridge Analytica
0:21:08 > 0:21:14by the leader of the SNP at Westminster.
0:21:14 > 0:21:19The parent company of Cambridge Analytica is Strategic
0:21:19 > 0:21:24is Strategic Communications Laboratories.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27It has been run by the chairman of the Oxford Conservative Association.
0:21:27 > 0:21:30Its founding chairman was a former Conservative MP.
0:21:30 > 0:21:34A director appears to have donated over £700,000 to the Tory party.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37The former Conservative Party treasurer is a shareholder.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39We know about the links to the Conservative Party.
0:21:39 > 0:21:46They go on and on.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48Will the Prime Minister explained to the House her government's
0:21:48 > 0:21:53connections to the company?
0:21:53 > 0:21:55Can I say, the right honourable gentleman has been talking
0:21:55 > 0:21:59about two companies, about the parent company, SCL,
0:21:59 > 0:22:05and he also referred to Cambridge Analytica and I can say
0:22:05 > 0:22:09that as far as I'm aware, the Government has no contracts
0:22:09 > 0:22:10with Cambridge analytical or with the SCL group.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12Later, on the committee corridor, a former operations manager
0:22:12 > 0:22:17for Facebook told MPs he'd raised concerns about the risk
0:22:17 > 0:22:22of users' data being abused - but the company didn't tell users.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24Speaking on a rather ropey video-link to the Culture Committee,
0:22:24 > 0:22:26Sandy Parakilas, described how a firm like Cambridge Analytica
0:22:26 > 0:22:29could get personal data when people connected to an app linked
0:22:29 > 0:22:34to Facebook.
0:22:34 > 0:22:41Facebook asks you the user for permission to give certain kinds of
0:22:41 > 0:22:44information from your Facebook account and once you agree, Facebook
0:22:44 > 0:22:50passes that data from Facebook's servers to the developer.
0:22:50 > 0:22:55He explained that they gave the developer the ability to access
0:22:55 > 0:22:58data relating to the users' friends - but those people hadn't explicitly
0:22:58 > 0:23:00given their authorisation.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03As a senior manager, he raised the issue with executives
0:23:03 > 0:23:05who are still at the company now.
0:23:05 > 0:23:12I included lists of bad actors and potential bad actors, which
0:23:12 > 0:23:19included, for state actors, data brokers, -- foreign state actors
0:23:19 > 0:23:22will stop I said here are some of the things they could be doing and
0:23:22 > 0:23:25here are some of the areas that the company is still exposed and user
0:23:25 > 0:23:31data is still at risk. And I shared that around with a number of people
0:23:31 > 0:23:32at the time.
0:23:32 > 0:23:34He said he didn't know if Facebook's chief executive
0:23:34 > 0:23:37Mark Zuckerberg knew, but it was widely understood
0:23:37 > 0:23:39at the company that there was a risk in the way Facebook
0:23:39 > 0:23:40was handling data.
0:23:40 > 0:23:46A Conservative asked about the developer companies.
0:23:46 > 0:23:50Do you think they might have acquired data illegally from
0:23:50 > 0:23:54Facebook and that might have been used in an attempt to impact the
0:23:54 > 0:23:59outcome on elections in the UK and further afield?That seems very
0:23:59 > 0:24:06likely. The amount of data that was passed out of the Facebook platform
0:24:06 > 0:24:12in 2010 and 2014 is just fast. There were in my memory, hundreds of
0:24:12 > 0:24:15thousands of apps on the platform while I was there.
0:24:15 > 0:24:19Sandy Parakilas.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22In the Lords, it was day nine of detailed scrutiny of the EU
0:24:22 > 0:24:24Withdrawal Bill and the thorny issue of devolution.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26The government explained that its amendments would place
0:24:26 > 0:24:28restrictions on Westminster's ability to exercise powers returning
0:24:28 > 0:24:30from Brussels after Brexit where those relate
0:24:30 > 0:24:37to devolved matters.
0:24:37 > 0:24:41Their affect is that by default, on exit day, any decision-making powers
0:24:41 > 0:24:45currently held by DEQ in areas that are otherwise devolved, would pass
0:24:45 > 0:24:49directly to our evolved institutions without first being diverted through
0:24:49 > 0:24:50Westminster.
0:24:51 > 0:24:55He said he wanted to be clear.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58Any decision that the devolved institutions could take before exit
0:24:58 > 0:25:02day will continue to be a decision they can take after exit day in
0:25:02 > 0:25:07areas where they have exercised their powers. There is no
0:25:07 > 0:25:09encroachment into existing devolved areas.
0:25:09 > 0:25:11Labour described the original drafting of the bill
0:25:11 > 0:25:13as an "emasculation" of devolution.
0:25:13 > 0:25:15There was "some way to go" before the government's proposals
0:25:15 > 0:25:20would be satisfactory.
0:25:20 > 0:25:23I must make the point in sorrow rather than angered that the way in
0:25:23 > 0:25:26which the Government has handled the whole issue over months of
0:25:26 > 0:25:34inactivity from the autumn onwards, it leaves much to be desired.
0:25:34 > 0:25:37Indeed, it would not be wholly inappropriate to describe it as
0:25:37 > 0:25:39lamentable.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42And peers are expected to return to these issues next week.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44And that's all we've got time for.
0:25:44 > 0:25:51So from me, Mandy Baker, goodbye.