:00:00. > :00:30.but the damage to his reputation and finances has been great. Time for
:00:31. > :00:35.Witness. Welcome to Witness, our monthly look back at history as seen
:00:36. > :00:40.through the eyes of the people who were there. I'm at the British
:00:41. > :00:47.library in the heart of London. We will hear from the first woman to be
:00:48. > :00:50.ordained in the Church of England, a cinematographer who filmed the
:00:51. > :00:56.beginning of the Second World War, and one of the stars of the biggest
:00:57. > :01:03.Indian TV shows in history. At first, we travelled to Mexico. On
:01:04. > :01:09.the 19th of September, 1985, a huge earthquake hit Mexico City, killing
:01:10. > :01:22.thousands. The disaster led to the formation of an elite rescue group
:01:23. > :01:37.called Los Topos, or The Moles. We met one of its founders.
:01:38. > :01:45.TRANSLATION: When the earthquake hit, the first thing I saw that ``
:01:46. > :01:49.was that part of the house opposite had fallen down. People were running
:01:50. > :01:51.all over the place. Women were on their knees, asking God for
:01:52. > :01:57.forgiveness. A report that an earthquake near Mexico City
:01:58. > :02:02.may have claimed more than 1000 lives. The
:02:03. > :02:05.City had been declared a disaster area,
:02:06. > :02:10.feared trapped in the rubble. TRANSLATION: I decided to walk into
:02:11. > :02:17.the centre, where I saw that the Hotel Regis had collapsed and a
:02:18. > :02:25.shopping centre was on fire. I had just got out of the Parachute
:02:26. > :02:32.Regiment. So, I decided to stay and help. All the people of Mexico,
:02:33. > :02:38.Mexico City, they are working to help the people. They are trying to
:02:39. > :02:43.help people. Then I heard about these people who were actually going
:02:44. > :02:45.into the rubble to do searches themselves. At the time, there were
:02:46. > :02:55.only nine of them. I tracked them down and I realised I could join
:02:56. > :03:01.them. The first person I rescued was a lady who had been trapped while
:03:02. > :03:09.she was having a wash. She was naked and she was asking for clothes and
:03:10. > :03:15.it took a long time to convince her but eventually, we got hold of a
:03:16. > :03:20.dressing gown and got her out OK. The government was completely
:03:21. > :03:26.overwhelmed. There were not enough ambulances. There were no
:03:27. > :03:34.specialised rescuers. People had to organise themselves. People started
:03:35. > :03:40.calling us Los Topos, The Moles, when they saw us rolling into the
:03:41. > :03:45.rubble. They started drilling holes into the debris and asking Los Topos
:03:46. > :03:53.to go in and look for people. We just had our hands, gloves and
:03:54. > :03:59.shovels. That was it. I will always remember the time I found a body
:04:00. > :04:04.with the mouth jammed open. Until then, I would always get scared
:04:05. > :04:11.easily. If I saw a body at a funeral, I would think about it all
:04:12. > :04:29.week. I never imagined I would be capable of handling bodies in those
:04:30. > :04:33.kinds of conditions. In 1986, Los Topos became a properly registered
:04:34. > :04:41.rescue group. We don't get paid. It is completely voluntary. It is not a
:04:42. > :04:49.job. I always feel it is something that I have to do. Since then, Los
:04:50. > :04:54.Topos have been all over the world. I remember the boss of my J `` day
:04:55. > :04:59.job used to say, Eduardo, you are going to see the world, but only a
:05:00. > :05:06.devastated world. He is right. We go to the places that everybody else
:05:07. > :05:18.has left. I always say that being part of Los Topos has changed my
:05:19. > :05:24.life completely. Eduardo Acevedo, who told us that he has lost count
:05:25. > :05:27.of the number of lives he has saved. Until the mid`19 90s, there
:05:28. > :05:34.had never been an priest in the Church of England, but
:05:35. > :05:39.that all changed in 1994, when 32 women were ordained amid much
:05:40. > :05:45.controversy. The first in line was Angela Bernice Wilson. When I was at
:05:46. > :05:51.university, I wrote to the Church information office and they said I
:05:52. > :05:58.could be secretary. I imagine it would have been paid better. It
:05:59. > :06:02.seemed an obvious thing for a woman who had been called to the
:06:03. > :06:07.priesthood to fight for the ordination of women. It never
:06:08. > :06:11.occurred to me not to. We wanted women who had received the call from
:06:12. > :06:17.God to be recognised by the Church. There is a saying, like a mighty
:06:18. > :06:20.tauter strolls the church of God, and it seemed like that with the
:06:21. > :06:26.ordination of women priests. It would mess up the order of things
:06:27. > :06:29.right up. It was always a balancing act between not alienating people by
:06:30. > :06:32.appearing to strident and doing things that would actually have an
:06:33. > :06:40.impact. Tomorrow, they will take their crucial vote on whether to
:06:41. > :06:46.ordain women priests. The debate has already split the Church and it is
:06:47. > :06:52.thought that the result is too close to call. I had come up to London
:06:53. > :06:58.before the vote. The Butler sent up some very nice to be for it
:06:59. > :07:03.happened. I thought that was nice. George Carey was the Archbishop of
:07:04. > :07:07.Canterbury at the time and he gave the results in a deadpan voice. It
:07:08. > :07:12.was archbishop of the whole Church, and he knew that some people would
:07:13. > :07:17.be very upset the matter which way the vote went. The motion is
:07:18. > :07:24.carried. The measure now stands committed to the legislative
:07:25. > :07:32.committee. When I first discovered I was going to be the first woman to
:07:33. > :07:38.be ordained in England... The Bishop always ordained alphabetically. I
:07:39. > :07:44.got a phone call from the Times and they said they wanted to come and
:07:45. > :07:49.kill me on a Sunday and I said... My husband told me that it would just
:07:50. > :07:53.be a tiny article on page 37, and blow me down, I was plastered all
:07:54. > :07:58.over the front page of the Times! the day of the ordination, we
:07:59. > :08:04.arrived at Westminster Cathedral. I was feeling nervous, obviously. I
:08:05. > :08:08.was walking up the aisle and the cathedral was absolutely packed. I
:08:09. > :08:12.was conscious that this was a moment in
:08:13. > :08:19.would be nothing to disrupt the service. Some have waited patiently
:08:20. > :08:22.and some have not been quite so patient. They know who they are. The
:08:23. > :08:31.only opposition we were aware of actual date was a church across town
:08:32. > :08:36.that told their bill. What will emerge from Westminster Cathedral
:08:37. > :08:43.today will not be 32 priest but a new order of transvestites! Angela
:08:44. > :08:48.burners will then was the first to come forward for the laying on of
:08:49. > :08:52.hands. `` Angela Dennis Wilson. We could feel the Holy Spirit and the
:08:53. > :08:59.authority. Send down the Holy Spirit. It had been something I had
:09:00. > :09:04.been waiting and praying for for 20 years. It was wonderful. And
:09:05. > :09:08.everybody was in a great big Mike almost like a rugby scrum just
:09:09. > :09:15.hugging each other. All of one's closest friends and family there.
:09:16. > :09:18.This is a new springtime for the Church of England and I hope that
:09:19. > :09:23.people will come to see this is right way forward. Women coming
:09:24. > :09:30.forward now have no idea what we good thing because it is much more
:09:31. > :09:38.accepted, but it is a struggle is lost. She is now one of
:09:39. > :09:44.nearly 2000 female priest in England. `` priests. In the summer
:09:45. > :09:46.of 1939, Germany was preparing to invade Poland. One of the German
:09:47. > :09:49.objectives was the free city`state of dancers on the Polish coast.
:09:50. > :09:55.Young British photojournalist Douglas Logan travelled there to
:09:56. > :10:03.film what turned out to be the beginnings of the Second World War.
:10:04. > :10:09.In my early 20s, I was a photojournalist. I read one day in
:10:10. > :10:19.the newspaper that there was a headline: `` Danzig, suggesting that
:10:20. > :10:24.Hitler had designs on Danzig and that this could very well lead to
:10:25. > :10:31.the beginning of the Second World War, so I thought, I had better
:10:32. > :10:39.investigate! Danzig was the European danger point. When I got to Danzig,
:10:40. > :10:50.I found that all of the shops that were Jewish had Judae told across
:10:51. > :10:57.the windows and there were signs of anti`Jewish sentiment all over the
:10:58. > :11:07.city. On my return to London, one who had been filming preparations
:11:08. > :11:17.for war in London for a film called lights out in Europe sent me back to
:11:18. > :11:28.Danzig with a movie camera. One evening, I was aware of a red
:11:29. > :11:34.glow in the sky. It led me to the square in which stood the
:11:35. > :11:41.synagogue. And it was now on fire. I was suddenly aware of two hands on
:11:42. > :11:48.my shoulders. It was the local Gestapo. And I was thrown into a
:11:49. > :11:56.cell, and I spent the night in that cell. After that, I thought it might
:11:57. > :12:10.be a good idea to leave Danzig and make my way into Poland. I was
:12:11. > :12:16.joined in Poland by others and on the 1st of September, I was woken up
:12:17. > :12:28.at five o'clock in the morning by the sound of German planes
:12:29. > :12:37.overhead. I felt quite excited, really, that things were about to
:12:38. > :12:45.happen. Herbert Klein and I made our way back to Warsaw and their found
:12:46. > :12:55.that most of the people seemed to have flown the city. We managed to
:12:56. > :13:02.get aboard a train with hundreds of hundreds of refugees and then,
:13:03. > :13:10.slowly during the night, trundled our way out of Warsaw. At about five
:13:11. > :13:16.o'clock in the morning, we suddenly heard the sound of German planes
:13:17. > :13:27.overhead. There were bombs falling around the train. Eventually, we
:13:28. > :13:32.managed to get out of Poland and headed. Colm and then from Stockholm
:13:33. > :13:38.to London and safety. Looking back on it, it all seemed to be like a
:13:39. > :14:03.sort of dream. That was Douglas Slocombe, he is now
:14:04. > :14:10.101 years old. You can go to our website and check out the archives.
:14:11. > :14:19.In 1988, a group of London students staged an exhibition of their work
:14:20. > :14:25.that would change the face of British modern art, it was called
:14:26. > :14:33.Freeze. It launched the many of the careers of the top names in the
:14:34. > :14:39.field. We decided to put on an exhibition
:14:40. > :14:45.during the summer holidays. We would all be drinking at the same bar, we
:14:46. > :14:52.knew each other. The show came out of that group of people in south
:14:53. > :15:01.London. Damien Hirst got 17 other people involved. I became involved
:15:02. > :15:10.in Freeze just by Damien asking me to be in it. Everyone half believed
:15:11. > :15:14.him and half not. Some of the artists work conceptual, which means
:15:15. > :15:23.you would not spend a year working on the tapestry or a sculpture, you
:15:24. > :15:32.a couple of tennis balls on top. And that was it. Everything was done to
:15:33. > :15:42.make it seem like it was not a student exhibition. That court
:15:43. > :15:48.people offguard. Will all influenced similarly. We had a similar
:15:49. > :16:01.experience of the same type of pop music, such as the Clash. It was not
:16:02. > :16:14.ideal, the place. It was near the docks and the completion was rough
:16:15. > :16:17.and ready. We spent a little bit of more time ripping out the radiators
:16:18. > :16:23.and filling holes in the ceiling, and painting the place, whatever you
:16:24. > :16:28.had to do to make it look like a neutral gallery space. The
:16:29. > :16:32.sponsorship led to the catalogue and Damien had the foresight to make it
:16:33. > :16:37.formal and official, getting permission to do it officially so we
:16:38. > :16:46.did not get evicted on the opening night. I showed one piece which was
:16:47. > :16:56.a large colour photograph in a light box, it was called Bullet Hole. I
:16:57. > :17:01.wanted to use images that were seductive and compelling to look at.
:17:02. > :17:06.Maybe subject matter was something that was not really the kind of
:17:07. > :17:13.thing you I used to engaging with in an art gallery, it was aggressive
:17:14. > :17:22.and immediate. Damien painted his spot paintings on the wall is and
:17:23. > :17:28.the first spot paintings he weighed in article Matraville `` made. I was
:17:29. > :17:37.watching a house in one of the places burning down. Several 100
:17:38. > :17:42.people came along and was Matraville and it was a big success in the
:17:43. > :17:51.evening. Artists came along and got a lot of representation so their
:17:52. > :18:02.careers had taken off. The media has a different agenda to what is really
:18:03. > :18:07.going on in the art world. A lot of the artist enjoyed it, personally I
:18:08. > :18:12.find a lot of it going. Maybe the fact that it achieved some kind of
:18:13. > :18:18.notoriety, gave the impression that you can be self`motivated and Kuwata
:18:19. > :18:29.and do something, then you are not just shouting into a void. The
:18:30. > :18:35.echoes will come back. And finally, witness travelled to India to meet
:18:36. > :18:47.East TV star of Bollywood. The mine was a TV epic watched by millions.
:18:48. > :18:53.`` Ramayan. This actress played the Hindu goddess, Sita.
:18:54. > :19:04.I was 15 years when we started working for or mine. `` 15 years
:19:05. > :19:09.old. I did not know I would be changing the course of history by
:19:10. > :19:13.doing this. The goddess Sita was muddied Matraville was married to
:19:14. > :19:25.Rahman. There is a description of what Sita and rum look like. `` Ram.
:19:26. > :19:28.It was the first time the Ramayan was told on TV. There was a lot of
:19:29. > :19:35.responsibility on us at that time which we did not realise. It was one
:19:36. > :19:40.of the regular TV series we were signed up for, and it was a costume
:19:41. > :19:43.so not a big deal. Added to top it off, to be on television was
:19:44. > :19:49.definitely not something to be proud about at that point of time. The
:19:50. > :19:56.first episode, for one hour, it took us 15 days to film. I was therefore
:19:57. > :20:01.to be seven days living there. We were living in the make up studio,
:20:02. > :20:09.not coming back to Bombay. Everyone becomes a close`knit family. It was
:20:10. > :20:12.very hard. We do not have those air`conditioning during those days.
:20:13. > :20:21.Everytime the director announces cut, a fan guy comes and starts the
:20:22. > :20:25.industrial fans. We all just stood in front of the fans.
:20:26. > :20:34.(MUSIC) As an actress you give your best and
:20:35. > :20:41.the result was everybody loved it. Within six months we realised we
:20:42. > :20:49.were all big stars. Ramayan had become popular. 18 million Indians
:20:50. > :20:55.gathered together wherever there was a TV set every Sunday morning to
:20:56. > :21:00.watch the Ramayan. People were watching all around the world. We
:21:01. > :21:10.had our Prime Minister who invited us to Delhi, we met him. We were
:21:11. > :21:17.recognised all across. This is not just a video film, it is something
:21:18. > :21:23.which can guide your life all the weight. Across India, village
:21:24. > :21:26.viewers turned sets into shines from which a holy story could be told the
:21:27. > :21:34.pillar people would come and touch our
:21:35. > :21:41.feet, thinking that we are Sita and Ram. At one point Ram sets Sita a
:21:42. > :21:48.light, then the TV people had to burn her but they explained to her
:21:49. > :21:53.she was not really burnt a only an image. They had to explain this to
:21:54. > :21:58.us popular peoples to recognise me when I step out today. This has left
:21:59. > :22:04.so much of a mark on my life. I do not think anybody ever plans to make
:22:05. > :22:17.it a big deal and it works, it sometimes just happens.
:22:18. > :22:23.She was the goddess of the small screen. That is all from us at this
:22:24. > :22:28.time, next week we bring you five more witnesses and five more
:22:29. > :22:33.histories seem to be high of people who were there. `` the eye. Bye for
:22:34. > :23:10.now. decent weather this weekend. It is
:23:11. > :23:14.going